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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:34,251 --> 00:00:36,471 ♪ One, two, three♪ 2 00:00:40,692 --> 00:00:43,565 ♪ What goes up♪ 3 00:00:43,652 --> 00:00:45,610 ♪ Must come down♪ 4 00:00:46,655 --> 00:00:50,920 ♪ Spinning Wheel Got to go 'round♪ 5 00:00:51,007 --> 00:00:53,096 ♪ Talkin' 'bout your troubles♪ 6 00:00:53,183 --> 00:00:56,056 ♪ It's a cryin' sin♪ 7 00:00:56,143 --> 00:01:00,843 ♪ Ride a painted pony Let the spinning wheel spin♪ 8 00:01:08,807 --> 00:01:12,376 ♪ Someone is waiting Just for you♪ 9 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:15,901 ♪ Spinnin' wheel♪ 10 00:01:15,988 --> 00:01:18,121 ♪ Spinnin' true♪ 11 00:01:18,208 --> 00:01:22,647 ♪ Drop all your troubles By the riverside♪ 12 00:01:22,734 --> 00:01:24,606 ♪ Catch a painted pony♪ 13 00:01:24,693 --> 00:01:27,783 ♪ Let the spinning wheel fly♪ 14 00:01:45,017 --> 00:01:48,369 Keep in mind, this is the first American rock band 15 00:01:48,456 --> 00:01:50,545 to perform behind the Iron Curtain. 16 00:01:50,632 --> 00:01:52,895 The very first. 17 00:01:52,982 --> 00:01:55,027 I don't think any of us knew enough 18 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:59,031 about that part of the world to even have any expectations. 19 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:00,816 It was just, "Here we go." 20 00:02:08,171 --> 00:02:10,956 They were responding to this great music. 21 00:02:11,043 --> 00:02:12,871 And this great singer. 22 00:02:12,958 --> 00:02:16,223 They felt this kind of unleashed freedom. 23 00:02:26,494 --> 00:02:28,278 They were really excited, 24 00:02:28,365 --> 00:02:30,889 and they didn't really wanna leave. 25 00:02:30,976 --> 00:02:33,196 The authorities didn't like that at all. 26 00:02:36,417 --> 00:02:38,854 We were about to come on for an encore, 27 00:02:38,941 --> 00:02:41,335 but one of the wives came back, she was almost crying. 28 00:02:41,422 --> 00:02:43,772 "Oh, they're sending the dogs out into the audience." 29 00:02:43,859 --> 00:02:46,644 German Shepherds, you know, to disperse everybody, 30 00:02:46,731 --> 00:02:48,603 'cause we had gotten people too excited. 31 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,953 We were being followed. 32 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,477 We were being monitored in every way. 33 00:02:53,564 --> 00:02:55,784 It seemed very much like a James Bond movie. 34 00:02:55,871 --> 00:02:58,526 We're just musicians, man. 35 00:02:58,613 --> 00:03:00,963 We just went to play some music for people. 36 00:03:01,050 --> 00:03:03,531 We were the number one band in the world, 37 00:03:03,618 --> 00:03:06,882 and it turned into this huge political rat's nest. 38 00:03:13,976 --> 00:03:16,326 The 1968 election showed 39 00:03:16,413 --> 00:03:18,067 that this country 40 00:03:18,154 --> 00:03:19,851 was a pot that was on the stove, 41 00:03:19,938 --> 00:03:22,680 and it's already starting to boil. 42 00:03:22,767 --> 00:03:26,162 Richard Nixon wins the 1968 election 43 00:03:26,249 --> 00:03:29,861 because he promises to get America out of the Vietnam War. 44 00:03:29,948 --> 00:03:32,342 Nixon instead escalates the war. 45 00:03:32,429 --> 00:03:35,780 No more war! No more war! 46 00:03:35,867 --> 00:03:38,653 Peace now! Peace now! 47 00:03:39,915 --> 00:03:41,960 The divide gets deeper, 48 00:03:42,047 --> 00:03:45,442 and society gets more violent. 49 00:03:51,492 --> 00:03:53,276 There was an underlying reason 50 00:03:53,363 --> 00:03:55,844 why we did this tour, but we couldn't tell anyone. 51 00:03:55,931 --> 00:03:57,802 It was definitely a quid pro quo. 52 00:03:57,889 --> 00:03:59,674 We were blackmailed. 53 00:03:59,761 --> 00:04:01,589 I was so frustrated that I couldn't say, 54 00:04:01,676 --> 00:04:04,505 "We had to do this or we wouldn't have had a band." 55 00:04:05,767 --> 00:04:07,769 There's so much more to this story, 56 00:04:07,856 --> 00:04:09,988 you have no idea. 57 00:04:50,638 --> 00:04:53,380 Yugoslavia, Romania, Poland. 58 00:04:53,467 --> 00:04:55,947 That's where you're going, gentlemen, and this film has been prepared 59 00:04:56,034 --> 00:04:59,081 to give you a short briefing on what to expect. 60 00:04:59,168 --> 00:05:01,779 First of all, you're honored guests so just act accordingly. 61 00:05:01,866 --> 00:05:03,607 Don't go wandering off by yourself, 62 00:05:03,694 --> 00:05:05,609 and make sure your State Department companion 63 00:05:05,696 --> 00:05:07,611 knows your whereabouts at all times. 64 00:05:07,698 --> 00:05:09,570 The police and military can be very helpful, 65 00:05:09,657 --> 00:05:11,223 but under no circumstances are you permitted 66 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:12,834 to take pictures of them, 67 00:05:12,921 --> 00:05:14,836 nor any military installations or airports. 68 00:05:14,923 --> 00:05:16,490 Just abide by the rules. 69 00:05:16,577 --> 00:05:18,187 Speaking of rules, Romania recently passed 70 00:05:18,274 --> 00:05:19,971 a restriction prohibiting long hair. 71 00:05:20,058 --> 00:05:22,147 Uh, even if you're not from that country? 72 00:05:22,234 --> 00:05:23,410 No, it doesn't apply to you. 73 00:05:23,497 --> 00:05:24,933 So keep your passports with you 74 00:05:25,020 --> 00:05:26,587 at all times in case you're stopped. 75 00:05:26,674 --> 00:05:28,240 And I'm sure I don't need to point out 76 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:30,373 that narcotics are absolutely forbidden. 77 00:05:30,460 --> 00:05:32,157 You're gonna be the first contemporary music group 78 00:05:32,244 --> 00:05:34,072 ever to be sent in a communist country 79 00:05:34,159 --> 00:05:35,987 under the cultural exchange program. 80 00:05:36,074 --> 00:05:37,728 Your tour is being filmed. 81 00:05:37,815 --> 00:05:39,991 This means there will be a total of 57 people, 82 00:05:40,078 --> 00:05:41,515 including yourselves, the film crew 83 00:05:41,602 --> 00:05:43,255 and the State Department staff. 84 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,649 There will be over 15 tons of gear, 85 00:05:45,736 --> 00:05:48,086 so have patience with your hosts. 86 00:05:48,173 --> 00:05:50,828 You'll be giving them quite a culture shock too. 87 00:05:50,915 --> 00:05:53,570 Assistant Secretary Richardson is hosting a reception for you 88 00:05:53,657 --> 00:05:55,355 at the State Department this afternoon at 3:00. 89 00:05:58,053 --> 00:06:01,099 Members of Blood, Sweat & Tears are all young people. 90 00:06:01,186 --> 00:06:03,101 They're all in their 20s, 91 00:06:03,188 --> 00:06:06,061 and they're all interested 92 00:06:06,148 --> 00:06:09,238 in trying this new experience of communicating 93 00:06:09,325 --> 00:06:12,328 with new kinds of audiences in Eastern Europe. 94 00:06:12,415 --> 00:06:15,636 They'll be leaving tomorrow with all of our best wishes. 95 00:06:15,723 --> 00:06:18,334 We were excited by doing it, yeah. 96 00:06:18,421 --> 00:06:21,772 It just seemed like a great way to expand 97 00:06:21,859 --> 00:06:25,167 the band's popularity to a whole new audience. 98 00:06:25,254 --> 00:06:27,648 We, the members of Blood, Sweat & Tears, 99 00:06:27,735 --> 00:06:30,825 go on this tour first as people. 100 00:06:30,912 --> 00:06:34,916 We seek to communicate directly with people over there, 101 00:06:35,003 --> 00:06:38,572 and to bring ourselves some understanding of them. 102 00:06:38,659 --> 00:06:40,617 We speak the language of music, 103 00:06:40,704 --> 00:06:42,271 which is a language 104 00:06:42,358 --> 00:06:44,665 common to just about everyone in the world. 105 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:49,670 "The group is delighted with the opportunity 106 00:06:49,757 --> 00:06:53,282 to communicate directly with the people of Eastern Europe thru music." 107 00:06:54,239 --> 00:06:57,112 Um, was the group delighted? 108 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:58,809 Some of the group was delighted. 109 00:06:58,896 --> 00:07:01,159 What are you doing a State Department tour for? 110 00:07:01,246 --> 00:07:03,858 Sponsored by the State Department? Are you nuts? 111 00:07:03,945 --> 00:07:06,382 I think we were naive. 112 00:07:06,469 --> 00:07:08,079 I don't think we realized 113 00:07:08,166 --> 00:07:09,994 how it would bounce up and bite us. 114 00:07:10,908 --> 00:07:12,910 To his credit, Steve did. 115 00:07:12,997 --> 00:07:15,609 I was horribly against it. 116 00:07:15,696 --> 00:07:19,177 Certainly, Steve Katz was the most outspoken 117 00:07:19,264 --> 00:07:21,658 about not approving of the US government, 118 00:07:21,745 --> 00:07:23,965 not approving of what the US government did. 119 00:07:24,052 --> 00:07:25,880 He did talk to the press before the tour 120 00:07:25,967 --> 00:07:28,578 about being reluctant to participate 121 00:07:28,665 --> 00:07:31,494 in a tour on behalf of the government. 122 00:07:31,581 --> 00:07:33,322 Because I was political. 123 00:07:33,409 --> 00:07:35,280 But the guys in the band weren't political. 124 00:07:35,367 --> 00:07:38,501 They were jazz players, or they were rock players. 125 00:07:38,588 --> 00:07:40,416 You know, they voted against Nixon, 126 00:07:40,503 --> 00:07:42,636 or they voted for Nixon as far as I know. 127 00:07:42,723 --> 00:07:45,465 But they're musicians first. 128 00:07:45,552 --> 00:07:47,554 There's something very serious happening. 129 00:07:47,641 --> 00:07:48,816 America is not at peace. 130 00:07:48,903 --> 00:07:50,557 I believe that at some point, 131 00:07:50,644 --> 00:07:52,994 everybody in the United States who opposes the war, 132 00:07:53,081 --> 00:07:55,431 and opposes the military industrial complex, 133 00:07:55,518 --> 00:07:57,564 and opposes the-- the value system 134 00:07:57,651 --> 00:07:59,479 which makes older people laugh at younger people 135 00:07:59,566 --> 00:08:02,003 and not even listen, should stop and say, 136 00:08:02,090 --> 00:08:05,876 "We-- we are on strike until the insanity ends, period," 137 00:08:05,963 --> 00:08:08,662 and that's why I don't want-- I didn't wanna go on this tour 138 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:10,968 as a tool of the United States government. 139 00:08:11,055 --> 00:08:12,796 He was very radical 140 00:08:12,883 --> 00:08:16,017 and very, very much into radical politics. 141 00:08:16,104 --> 00:08:19,499 Me, not so much, I'm Canadian, I don't-- 142 00:08:19,586 --> 00:08:21,370 But we were involved 143 00:08:21,457 --> 00:08:24,416 in that counter-culture movement of the day, 144 00:08:24,504 --> 00:08:27,681 mostly based around the Vietnam War 145 00:08:27,768 --> 00:08:29,421 and the antiwar movement. 146 00:08:31,162 --> 00:08:33,469 ♪ Somethin' goin' on Behind my back♪ 147 00:08:33,556 --> 00:08:35,253 To my knowledge, 148 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:38,561 someone in the government was pretty pissed off 149 00:08:38,648 --> 00:08:42,478 that, um, a Canadian-- and David is a Canadian-- 150 00:08:42,565 --> 00:08:46,395 was talking against the war in Vietnam. 151 00:08:46,482 --> 00:08:49,616 But we were all talking against the war in Vietnam. 152 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:53,097 This was that era, 153 00:08:53,184 --> 00:08:54,882 Nixon, 154 00:08:54,969 --> 00:08:57,580 our age group, flower power. 155 00:08:57,667 --> 00:08:59,060 This is what was going on. 156 00:09:02,933 --> 00:09:05,240 The time has come for action. 157 00:09:09,026 --> 00:09:10,854 By 1970, 158 00:09:10,941 --> 00:09:12,856 this country is riven 159 00:09:12,943 --> 00:09:15,119 by a disagreement. 160 00:09:16,599 --> 00:09:18,514 Heated, passionate disagreement. 161 00:09:24,607 --> 00:09:26,304 It's a horrible moment 162 00:09:26,391 --> 00:09:29,481 because it forces a lot of Americans to look inside 163 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:32,572 and ask themselves what does it mean to be patriotic? 164 00:09:32,659 --> 00:09:34,530 And they didn't have the same answer. 165 00:09:34,617 --> 00:09:37,533 And because a lot of good people 166 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:39,622 didn't come up with the same answer, 167 00:09:39,709 --> 00:09:42,538 kitchen table conversations around the country became heated, 168 00:09:42,625 --> 00:09:44,540 and there was a national divide. 169 00:09:44,627 --> 00:09:47,064 And the national divide 170 00:09:47,151 --> 00:09:49,589 is defined in terms of Vietnam. 171 00:09:49,676 --> 00:09:51,286 From Saigon, 172 00:09:51,373 --> 00:09:53,157 this is the American Forces Vietnam Network. 173 00:10:16,877 --> 00:10:20,315 ♪ I'm not scared of dying♪ 174 00:10:20,402 --> 00:10:23,753 ♪ And I don't really care♪ 175 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,235 ♪ If it's peace You find in dying♪ 176 00:10:27,322 --> 00:10:30,934 ♪ Well, then Let the time be near♪ 177 00:10:31,021 --> 00:10:32,414 Dear Bobby, 178 00:10:32,501 --> 00:10:34,851 I wanna thank you for your music. 179 00:10:34,938 --> 00:10:38,507 Especially those songs I got to know very well in 1969, 180 00:10:38,594 --> 00:10:41,989 when I heard them and Blood, Sweat & Tears for the first time 181 00:10:42,076 --> 00:10:44,513 on the American Forces Vietnam Network. 182 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,952 ♪ And when I die And when I'm gone♪ 183 00:10:49,039 --> 00:10:50,911 ♪ There'll be one child born♪ 184 00:10:50,998 --> 00:10:54,566 ♪ In this world To carry on, to carry on♪ 185 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:56,612 And then there was "And When I Die," 186 00:10:56,699 --> 00:10:58,135 one of the songs that we used to sing 187 00:10:58,222 --> 00:11:00,616 in our frequent fits of black humor. 188 00:11:00,703 --> 00:11:03,445 Can you imagine that song blaring from a radio 189 00:11:03,532 --> 00:11:05,055 over the din of a helicopter 190 00:11:05,142 --> 00:11:07,623 full of GI's on the way to a combat assault? 191 00:11:18,939 --> 00:11:21,071 You helped me get through a difficult time. 192 00:11:25,989 --> 00:11:27,687 In this day of the generation gap, 193 00:11:27,774 --> 00:11:29,950 it's unusual to find a musical group 194 00:11:30,037 --> 00:11:32,648 that can get through to almost everybody. 195 00:11:32,735 --> 00:11:34,606 Ladies and gentlemen, here's that group, 196 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:36,608 Blood, Sweat & Tears. 197 00:11:47,402 --> 00:11:49,404 Blood, Sweat & Tears are one of those bands 198 00:11:49,491 --> 00:11:51,449 whose moment is so big, 199 00:11:51,536 --> 00:11:55,584 uh, that it's almost like they can't follow it. 200 00:11:56,846 --> 00:11:58,674 ♪ What a hard world to face♪ 201 00:11:58,761 --> 00:12:01,590 ♪ In the light of an angry sun♪ 202 00:12:01,677 --> 00:12:03,244 ♪ Ain't it hard to get on♪ 203 00:12:03,331 --> 00:12:06,247 ♪ If you ain't got That someone♪ 204 00:12:07,552 --> 00:12:09,554 There were a lot of horn bands coming out 205 00:12:09,641 --> 00:12:11,339 in that same era, Chicago, 206 00:12:11,426 --> 00:12:13,036 several others, 207 00:12:13,123 --> 00:12:16,387 but we set a new definition for rock and roll 208 00:12:16,474 --> 00:12:19,564 that included that kind of instrumentation. 209 00:12:19,651 --> 00:12:21,436 Blood, Sweat & Tears 210 00:12:21,523 --> 00:12:24,961 was among those few artists, they weren't fitting into it. 211 00:12:25,048 --> 00:12:26,963 They were leading the way. 212 00:12:27,050 --> 00:12:28,748 In terms of influence, 213 00:12:28,835 --> 00:12:31,968 you can't really imagine a whole world 214 00:12:32,055 --> 00:12:35,755 of horn rock and roll happening without them. 215 00:12:35,842 --> 00:12:37,844 They were just great, 216 00:12:37,931 --> 00:12:41,195 but even their greatness may have been problematic for them. 217 00:12:41,282 --> 00:12:44,459 It's very, very hard to have a nine-piece band 218 00:12:44,546 --> 00:12:47,201 to-- to-- to really have a feeling of one. 219 00:12:47,288 --> 00:12:50,465 This band, I believe, is nine very capable musicians 220 00:12:50,552 --> 00:12:52,249 who try to play music. 221 00:12:52,336 --> 00:12:55,165 Very, very similar, uh, to being in-- 222 00:12:55,252 --> 00:12:57,820 in ether an eight-piece band or a ten-piece band. 223 00:13:03,957 --> 00:13:06,742 There would be no Blood, Sweat & Tears without Bobby Colomby. 224 00:13:06,829 --> 00:13:09,484 He was the-- the gel that held it all together. 225 00:13:12,443 --> 00:13:14,358 Jimmy Fielder will always be 226 00:13:14,445 --> 00:13:16,056 one of my favorite people. 227 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:18,101 You listen to some of those lines that he played, 228 00:13:18,188 --> 00:13:20,190 they're amazing, I mean, they're superhuman. 229 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:24,194 Dick Halligan, musical genius. 230 00:13:24,281 --> 00:13:25,805 One of those guys 231 00:13:25,892 --> 00:13:28,329 who can pick up any instrument in the room, 232 00:13:28,416 --> 00:13:29,896 whether he's played it or not, 233 00:13:29,983 --> 00:13:31,723 and in an half an hour he'll be playing it. 234 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:36,293 Jerry Hyman, great, fun guy. 235 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:38,295 Always smiling, always joking, 236 00:13:38,382 --> 00:13:40,558 always pulling your leg about something. 237 00:13:43,823 --> 00:13:47,043 Steve Katz was a very close friend of mine. 238 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:50,351 He's a funny guy, he had a good sense for songs, 239 00:13:50,438 --> 00:13:52,309 "Let's find the right songs for the band." 240 00:13:54,442 --> 00:13:57,010 Fred Lipsius, immensely talented, 241 00:13:57,097 --> 00:13:59,186 extremely well-educated musician. 242 00:13:59,273 --> 00:14:01,797 Freddy would take a lot of time writing an arrangement, 243 00:14:01,884 --> 00:14:03,625 but they would always be fantastic, 244 00:14:03,712 --> 00:14:05,670 and they would always come from his heart. 245 00:14:07,194 --> 00:14:10,371 Lew Soloff was such a great trumpet player. 246 00:14:11,938 --> 00:14:14,766 Blistering lead trumpet player. 247 00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:17,813 Lew would not only nail it, he'd sting it. 248 00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:22,644 Chuck Winfield, the nicest man 249 00:14:22,731 --> 00:14:24,472 you'll ever meet in your life. 250 00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:26,430 Other trumpet players probably would have been bummed 251 00:14:26,517 --> 00:14:28,650 because Lewie was the trumpet star. 252 00:14:28,737 --> 00:14:31,435 Chuck just played his part as second trumpet. 253 00:14:31,522 --> 00:14:32,828 I never heard him play a mistake. 254 00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:34,134 He gave it his all, 255 00:14:34,221 --> 00:14:35,787 was totally fine doing what he did. 256 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:36,919 He was a prince. 257 00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:40,444 To me, David Clayton-Thomas 258 00:14:40,531 --> 00:14:42,446 was the best pop singer during our time. 259 00:14:42,533 --> 00:14:45,058 Powerful, powerful voice. 260 00:14:45,145 --> 00:14:48,017 It seemed like something from deep inside of him. 261 00:14:48,104 --> 00:14:49,889 He was the best band member 262 00:14:49,976 --> 00:14:53,544 in terms of work ethic, making every gig, 263 00:14:53,631 --> 00:14:55,503 knowing what he had to do. 264 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:57,070 He was incredible. 265 00:14:57,157 --> 00:14:58,593 The thing that held us together 266 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,030 was every guy in that band did what they did 267 00:15:01,117 --> 00:15:02,902 really, really well. 268 00:15:02,989 --> 00:15:04,686 No matter what went on in the band, 269 00:15:04,773 --> 00:15:06,862 whatever political differences or everything else, 270 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:10,213 when that band hit the stage every night, it gelled. 271 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:11,475 It was magic. 272 00:15:26,751 --> 00:15:28,101 We're at the airport, 273 00:15:28,188 --> 00:15:30,581 we're ready to leave on this big tour, 274 00:15:30,668 --> 00:15:33,454 and where's David? 275 00:15:33,541 --> 00:15:34,585 David's not there. 276 00:15:39,634 --> 00:15:42,463 I'm ready to get on the plane and all of sudden, 277 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:45,379 a whole gang of New York City policemen show up 278 00:15:45,466 --> 00:15:47,468 and took me in handcuffs. 279 00:15:50,297 --> 00:15:53,474 After spending most of my teen years in reformatories 280 00:15:53,561 --> 00:15:57,434 and to find myself after having the biggest album in the world 281 00:15:57,521 --> 00:15:59,132 and I was on top of the world 282 00:15:59,219 --> 00:16:01,482 and suddenly I'm in handcuffs again? 283 00:16:01,569 --> 00:16:03,571 Terrified. Terrified. 284 00:16:03,658 --> 00:16:06,139 I thought my life was over at that point. 285 00:16:08,010 --> 00:16:09,664 I became aware of the arrest 286 00:16:09,751 --> 00:16:11,709 when I went to the passenger check-in counter 287 00:16:11,796 --> 00:16:15,539 at the Pan American terminal at Kennedy International Airport. 288 00:16:15,626 --> 00:16:18,368 The charges had been filed by a former girlfriend, 289 00:16:18,455 --> 00:16:20,762 who alleged that he had threatened her with a gun 290 00:16:20,849 --> 00:16:23,069 in December 1969. 291 00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:25,245 The charges had been filed on June 11th, 292 00:16:25,332 --> 00:16:27,725 two days prior to our departure. 293 00:16:27,812 --> 00:16:29,423 During the course of the evening, 294 00:16:29,510 --> 00:16:31,294 Thomas continued to maintain 295 00:16:31,381 --> 00:16:33,775 that the whole thing was a frame-up. 296 00:16:33,862 --> 00:16:36,821 We were told to proceed to Brooklyn night court. 297 00:16:36,908 --> 00:16:38,258 There was a lot of tension. 298 00:16:39,215 --> 00:16:41,435 We were waiting to see if we were gonna be able to go, 299 00:16:41,522 --> 00:16:43,132 if we were gonna be able to make the trip 300 00:16:43,219 --> 00:16:45,265 or are they-- they gonna send him away, 301 00:16:45,352 --> 00:16:47,832 and when David came out, 302 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:51,010 I just remember he had this haunted look in his eyes. 303 00:16:58,104 --> 00:16:59,714 But when the case was called up, 304 00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:02,151 the judge then requested me to testify 305 00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:03,848 as to the nature and length 306 00:17:03,935 --> 00:17:06,808 of Thomas' proposed absence from the US. 307 00:17:06,895 --> 00:17:09,724 I provided the court with the requested information, 308 00:17:09,811 --> 00:17:12,814 whereupon the judge continued the case until August 12th, 309 00:17:12,901 --> 00:17:15,991 and set bail at $1,000 in cash, 310 00:17:16,078 --> 00:17:18,385 since Thomas is neither an American citizen 311 00:17:18,472 --> 00:17:20,996 nor a resident of New York State. 312 00:17:21,083 --> 00:17:23,346 With my assistance, bail was arranged, 313 00:17:23,433 --> 00:17:26,349 and Thomas was released about 12:30 a.m. 314 00:17:27,568 --> 00:17:29,265 The police of course investigated 315 00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:31,833 and found that it was totally bogus. 316 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,965 I had never threatened anybody with a gun. 317 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:35,489 I didn't even own a gun. 318 00:17:36,968 --> 00:17:39,928 And, uh, like I say, released me with apologies, 319 00:17:40,015 --> 00:17:43,627 and I joined the band in London and then we flew on to do the tour from there. 320 00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:46,456 But it was a nasty moment. 321 00:17:58,729 --> 00:18:00,949 ♪ Lucretia Mac Evil♪ 322 00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:04,170 ♪ Little girl What's your game?♪ 323 00:18:06,955 --> 00:18:09,697 ♪ Hard luck and trouble♪ 324 00:18:09,784 --> 00:18:12,265 ♪ Bound to be Your claim to fame♪ 325 00:18:15,224 --> 00:18:17,096 ♪ Tail shakin', home breakin'♪ 326 00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:19,881 ♪ Truckin' through town♪ 327 00:18:19,968 --> 00:18:23,145 I'm Donn Cambern, and I was director 328 00:18:23,232 --> 00:18:27,454 of the lost Blood, Sweat & Tears documentary. 329 00:18:28,411 --> 00:18:30,283 "The State Department had no objection 330 00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:32,111 to the proposed film coverage, 331 00:18:32,198 --> 00:18:34,156 as long as all the costs of the film crew 332 00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:36,941 were not the responsibility of the Department. 333 00:18:37,028 --> 00:18:40,249 The Department retains the right to assure that the final product 334 00:18:40,336 --> 00:18:43,687 will not impair the relations between the United States Government 335 00:18:43,774 --> 00:18:45,950 and the three Eastern European governments." 336 00:18:47,082 --> 00:18:50,738 This was my first real... 337 00:18:51,782 --> 00:18:53,001 directing job. 338 00:18:53,958 --> 00:18:56,657 My vision was to make a concert film. 339 00:18:56,744 --> 00:19:00,443 When we arrived in Zagreb, things changed. 340 00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:04,012 We were playing it by ear, I was playing it by ear. 341 00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:07,233 We didn't know exactly what was gonna happen. 342 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,497 It was nerve-racking, but it was really exciting. 343 00:19:11,454 --> 00:19:16,372 ♪ Devil got you Lucy under lock and key♪ 344 00:19:16,459 --> 00:19:20,159 ♪ Ain't about to set you free♪ 345 00:19:20,246 --> 00:19:24,772 ♪ Signed, sealed and witnessed On the day you were born♪ 346 00:19:24,859 --> 00:19:29,298 ♪ No use tryin' to fake him out No use tryin' to make him out 347 00:19:29,385 --> 00:19:36,349 ♪ Soon he'll be Takin' out his doom♪ 348 00:19:42,398 --> 00:19:45,662 Yugoslavia was grey. It was kind of lifeless. 349 00:19:45,749 --> 00:19:47,838 Um, that much I remember. 350 00:19:47,925 --> 00:19:49,971 Um, at-- at least Zagreb, 351 00:19:50,058 --> 00:19:51,364 which was the first place we went, 352 00:19:51,451 --> 00:19:54,149 was just kind of big, stone buildings. 353 00:19:54,236 --> 00:19:57,239 Not much energy, not much of anything. 354 00:19:57,326 --> 00:20:01,112 Poverty like we hadn't even seen before in the States. 355 00:20:01,983 --> 00:20:04,986 It was, uh, very, very heart-wrenching. 356 00:20:05,073 --> 00:20:08,424 When we got there, the first night we spent in Zagreb, 357 00:20:08,511 --> 00:20:11,645 and I really thought that I was in a 1940s spy movie, 358 00:20:11,732 --> 00:20:14,213 you know, black and white, it was really strange. 359 00:20:16,563 --> 00:20:19,696 Ladies and gentlemen, this is no time for generalities, 360 00:20:19,783 --> 00:20:21,742 and I will venture to be precise. 361 00:20:21,829 --> 00:20:25,136 Though nobody knows what Soviet Russia 362 00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:28,009 and its Communist international organization 363 00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:31,360 intends to do in the immediate future. 364 00:20:31,447 --> 00:20:34,624 From Stettin in the Baltic, 365 00:20:34,711 --> 00:20:37,453 to Trieste in the Adriatic, 366 00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:40,413 an Iron Curtain has descended across the continent. 367 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,066 It's Winston Churchill 368 00:20:42,153 --> 00:20:44,852 who popularizes the idea 369 00:20:44,939 --> 00:20:48,377 that the world is divided by this-- 370 00:20:48,464 --> 00:20:50,858 this-- this frontier 371 00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:53,382 between freedom and slavery. 372 00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:05,525 And the countries east of that frontier, 373 00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:07,440 they're under Soviet domination. 374 00:21:07,527 --> 00:21:10,443 And those West are free. 375 00:21:10,530 --> 00:21:12,923 The rotten system you call communism. 376 00:21:13,010 --> 00:21:15,926 And so the Cold War was an existential struggle 377 00:21:16,013 --> 00:21:18,364 between the United States and the Soviet Union. 378 00:21:24,544 --> 00:21:26,937 Every inhabitant of this planet 379 00:21:27,024 --> 00:21:29,026 must contemplate the day 380 00:21:29,113 --> 00:21:32,639 when this planet may no longer be habitable. 381 00:21:32,726 --> 00:21:35,946 Every man, woman and child 382 00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:39,472 lives under a nuclear sword of Damocles, 383 00:21:39,559 --> 00:21:42,910 hanging by the slenderest of threads, 384 00:21:42,997 --> 00:21:45,434 capable of being cut at any moment 385 00:21:45,521 --> 00:21:48,568 by accident or miscalculation, 386 00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:50,091 or by madness. 387 00:21:50,178 --> 00:21:53,355 The generation that grew up in the 1950s 388 00:21:53,442 --> 00:21:55,749 certainly experienced the Cold war 389 00:21:55,836 --> 00:21:58,491 as the threat of nuclear Armageddon. 390 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:05,324 Always remember, the flash of an atomic bomb 391 00:22:05,411 --> 00:22:08,501 can come at any time, no matter where you may be. 392 00:22:08,588 --> 00:22:11,417 We grew up where we would have air raid drills. 393 00:22:11,504 --> 00:22:14,898 ♪ Duck and cover♪ 394 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:17,031 ♪ Duck and cover♪ 395 00:22:17,118 --> 00:22:19,947 An air raid drill meant if a hydrogen bomb 396 00:22:20,034 --> 00:22:23,037 was going to drop outside of your school, 397 00:22:23,124 --> 00:22:24,386 if you hid under your desk 398 00:22:24,473 --> 00:22:25,953 and put your hands behind your head, 399 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,955 you'd be fine, you know? 400 00:22:28,042 --> 00:22:31,567 So we actually practiced those-- those drills. 401 00:22:31,654 --> 00:22:35,615 The Soviets knew that they were behind. 402 00:22:35,702 --> 00:22:38,269 The Soviet leader was a guy named Nikita Khrushchev. 403 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:39,793 He knew it, 404 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,882 'cause the Soviets could count missiles. 405 00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:45,015 What they decided was they were so fearful of the United States 406 00:22:45,102 --> 00:22:48,497 that they would exaggerate the number of their missiles. 407 00:22:48,584 --> 00:22:51,021 Then they went on this campaign, 408 00:22:51,108 --> 00:22:54,068 propaganda deception campaign 409 00:22:54,155 --> 00:22:57,637 to lead Americans to believe that the Soviets were ahead 410 00:22:57,724 --> 00:22:59,769 and had missiles that could reach the United States. 411 00:23:02,555 --> 00:23:05,819 It will be the policy of the United States, 412 00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:09,388 to proceed in developing nuclear weapons, 413 00:23:09,475 --> 00:23:12,652 to maintain this superior capability, 414 00:23:12,739 --> 00:23:15,916 for the defense of the free world against any aggressor. 415 00:23:16,003 --> 00:23:19,136 At that time, there was a huge concern 416 00:23:19,223 --> 00:23:21,617 that the United States looked like 417 00:23:21,704 --> 00:23:25,621 a country of brute force power, military power, 418 00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:27,623 and there was an idea that the arts 419 00:23:27,710 --> 00:23:30,365 could make us look like we had a soul. 420 00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:32,106 If visitors from foreign lands 421 00:23:32,193 --> 00:23:34,282 can't all travel to Santa Fe, 422 00:23:34,369 --> 00:23:36,763 the Santa Fe Opera will come to them. 423 00:23:36,850 --> 00:23:38,808 The company is getting ready for a tour 424 00:23:38,895 --> 00:23:40,854 which will carry it halfway around the world, 425 00:23:40,941 --> 00:23:43,596 right up to the edge of the Iron Curtain. 426 00:23:43,683 --> 00:23:45,467 These are not the only American artists 427 00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:47,991 performing on international tours. 428 00:23:48,078 --> 00:23:50,646 There are many more travelling throughout the world 429 00:23:50,733 --> 00:23:52,387 as part of what is known officially 430 00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:55,869 as The President's Special International Program 431 00:23:55,956 --> 00:23:57,914 for Cultural Presentations. 432 00:23:58,001 --> 00:23:59,960 The State Department began this program 433 00:24:00,047 --> 00:24:01,962 officially in 1954, 434 00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:05,139 but there was a tilt towards classical music 435 00:24:05,226 --> 00:24:06,706 in the early years. 436 00:24:06,793 --> 00:24:10,449 By 1956 they're choosing to send jazz as well. 437 00:24:10,536 --> 00:24:14,235 Send these artists over where they can reach the masses. 438 00:24:14,322 --> 00:24:17,151 Where people can see America and hear America 439 00:24:17,238 --> 00:24:19,719 and what we have done, uh, face to face. 440 00:24:19,806 --> 00:24:22,330 One of the people who we're planning to use, 441 00:24:22,417 --> 00:24:24,114 my friend Dizzy Gillespie. 442 00:24:24,201 --> 00:24:26,290 And I'll fight to, uh-- 443 00:24:26,377 --> 00:24:28,728 to make the people all over the world 444 00:24:28,815 --> 00:24:31,208 to understand our American way of life. 445 00:24:31,295 --> 00:24:34,081 Uh, the weapon that we will use 446 00:24:34,168 --> 00:24:35,604 is the cool one. 447 00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:38,259 This is the cool weapon that we will use. 448 00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:40,000 So if you liked jazz, 449 00:24:40,087 --> 00:24:43,917 it meant you liked an element of American society. 450 00:24:44,004 --> 00:24:47,181 And wow, when you start to like one element of American society, 451 00:24:47,268 --> 00:24:50,314 what other elements of American society might you like? 452 00:24:53,317 --> 00:24:56,146 That's the role I believe music is playing 453 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:58,192 when thinking about soft power. 454 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:02,326 It's-- it's not a secret weapon, but it is a weapon 455 00:25:02,413 --> 00:25:05,678 against cultural mind control 456 00:25:05,765 --> 00:25:07,636 by these authoritarian states. 457 00:25:07,723 --> 00:25:10,073 For the Eastern bloc countries, 458 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,599 the Blood, Sweat & Tears tour comes at a point in history 459 00:25:13,686 --> 00:25:17,298 that is so-- it's full of change. 460 00:25:17,385 --> 00:25:19,996 Um, political change, social change. 461 00:25:20,083 --> 00:25:21,868 It's a very difficult moment. 462 00:25:23,739 --> 00:25:25,393 ♪ Smiling phases♪ 463 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,177 ♪ Bring you flowers♪ 464 00:25:27,264 --> 00:25:29,049 ♪ You can line 'em up and♪ 465 00:25:29,136 --> 00:25:32,748 ♪ You can watch them grow For hours♪ 466 00:25:32,835 --> 00:25:35,577 ♪ And you'll be amazed At the way♪ 467 00:25:35,664 --> 00:25:39,015 ♪ That they stare as they walk By your door♪ 468 00:25:40,016 --> 00:25:44,281 ♪ Oh... love♪ 469 00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:54,465 Having spanned the generation gap, 470 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:57,556 the band now aspired to span the political gap. 471 00:25:57,643 --> 00:25:59,862 They were sacrificing for their dream, 472 00:25:59,949 --> 00:26:01,951 giving the communists ten concerts, 473 00:26:02,038 --> 00:26:05,433 and waiving their usual fee of $25,000 per. 474 00:26:06,347 --> 00:26:10,133 Nobody had any idea before the opening concert in Zagreb 475 00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:12,222 how East European audiences would react 476 00:26:12,309 --> 00:26:15,356 to music that communists had been banning officially 477 00:26:15,443 --> 00:26:19,316 as part of a capitalist plot to degenerate their youth. 478 00:26:20,448 --> 00:26:22,102 So, the US State Department, 479 00:26:22,189 --> 00:26:24,147 Cultural Affairs Officers, 480 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:26,410 and the band were on edge, 481 00:26:26,497 --> 00:26:28,238 each for their own reason. 482 00:26:29,762 --> 00:26:30,893 How we doing? 483 00:26:31,894 --> 00:26:33,809 Oh, my God. 484 00:26:34,984 --> 00:26:36,725 Play "Roumania, Roumania." 485 00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:46,953 I understand it's the first time in history that this stadium has sold out. 486 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,519 - Is it really? - Yeah. 487 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:49,999 - That I didn't know. - Yeah, the ambassador 488 00:26:50,086 --> 00:26:51,261 came over and told us today. 489 00:27:08,844 --> 00:27:12,195 ♪ Do yourself a favor Wake up to your mind♪ 490 00:27:12,282 --> 00:27:13,936 ♪ Life is what you make it♪ 491 00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:15,895 ♪ You see But still you're blind♪ 492 00:27:15,982 --> 00:27:19,159 ♪ Get yourself together Give before you take♪ 493 00:27:19,246 --> 00:27:23,032 ♪ You'll find out the hard way Soon you're gonna break♪ 494 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,512 ♪ Hey, hey, hey♪ 495 00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:29,299 ♪ Smiling phases Bring you flowers♪ 496 00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:31,388 ♪ You can line 'em up and♪ 497 00:27:31,475 --> 00:27:35,349 ♪ You can watch them grow For hours♪ 498 00:27:35,436 --> 00:27:38,091 ♪ And you'll be amazed At the way♪ 499 00:27:38,178 --> 00:27:41,094 ♪ That they stare As they walk by your door♪ 500 00:28:11,211 --> 00:28:12,255 Thank you. 501 00:28:19,349 --> 00:28:22,048 "Some 5,000 cheering young Yugoslavs 502 00:28:22,135 --> 00:28:25,355 gave Blood, Sweat & Tears rousing opening night reception. 503 00:28:25,442 --> 00:28:27,009 Natural spontaneous coverage 504 00:28:27,096 --> 00:28:29,272 by film crew of student enthusiasm 505 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,232 including cheering, clapping and dancing at concert 506 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:35,931 likely will have favorable impact when shown in US. 507 00:28:36,018 --> 00:28:38,542 Strongest impact will come from scenes of thousands 508 00:28:38,629 --> 00:28:42,155 listening attentively, quietly to American music. 509 00:28:42,242 --> 00:28:43,896 They did not want to miss a sound." 510 00:28:52,861 --> 00:28:54,776 So who is Larry Goldblatt? 511 00:28:56,256 --> 00:28:58,127 Can I ask you the same question? 512 00:29:00,913 --> 00:29:02,305 Where did this guy come from? 513 00:29:05,134 --> 00:29:07,223 Our lawyer called and said, 514 00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:09,704 "I've got a guy that I think would be a great manager for you." 515 00:29:09,791 --> 00:29:11,532 And I went, "I'm all ears, what do you got?" 516 00:29:11,619 --> 00:29:13,229 He says, "Well, he's in prison. 517 00:29:13,316 --> 00:29:16,537 He's, uh, in Chino prison right now," 518 00:29:16,624 --> 00:29:18,539 and I went, "Where's this going?" 519 00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:20,149 "But he's really clever. 520 00:29:20,236 --> 00:29:23,805 Imaginative, and thinks out of the box," 521 00:29:23,892 --> 00:29:25,589 I said, "He's in prison." 522 00:29:25,676 --> 00:29:29,376 "Yeah. He'll be perfect. This is the music business." 523 00:29:31,726 --> 00:29:33,815 Larry was a great guy, 524 00:29:33,902 --> 00:29:35,774 and made some great decisions. 525 00:29:37,558 --> 00:29:41,170 He primarily set up the Eastern European tour. 526 00:29:44,739 --> 00:29:46,523 At this particular point in time, 527 00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:50,179 our lead singer, um, had had a problem. 528 00:29:51,702 --> 00:29:53,792 The band had a number one album on the chart, 529 00:29:53,879 --> 00:29:56,185 we were doing incredibly well, 530 00:29:56,272 --> 00:29:58,884 and then David gets his green card removed 531 00:29:58,971 --> 00:30:02,322 through some inside, Washington, DC, political crap 532 00:30:02,409 --> 00:30:03,932 that we didn't know about, 533 00:30:04,019 --> 00:30:05,629 and we don't have a singer 534 00:30:05,716 --> 00:30:07,457 to play in the United States anymore. 535 00:30:07,544 --> 00:30:08,894 I was gonna be deported. 536 00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:14,029 And the band could not afford to lose me at that point. 537 00:30:14,116 --> 00:30:15,901 With three number one singles 538 00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:18,077 and the number one record in the world, 539 00:30:18,164 --> 00:30:20,427 they were gonna do everything they could to keep me in the band. 540 00:30:20,514 --> 00:30:21,863 If we were gonna be able to 541 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:24,039 have him stay in the States, 542 00:30:24,126 --> 00:30:26,259 we were gonna need some help higher up, 543 00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:30,219 and the State Department is about as higher up as you can get 544 00:30:30,306 --> 00:30:32,265 in-- in matters like that. 545 00:30:32,352 --> 00:30:36,225 So apparently, Larry Goldblatt had figured out a way, 546 00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:39,185 being Larry, to get his green card back, 547 00:30:39,272 --> 00:30:42,014 and that was to make some kind of deal 548 00:30:42,101 --> 00:30:43,711 with the State Department. 549 00:30:43,798 --> 00:30:47,193 And so we were booked on this Eastern European tour. 550 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,108 It was brought to us in such a way 551 00:30:49,195 --> 00:30:51,806 that I knew exactly why we were gonna do it. 552 00:30:52,894 --> 00:30:55,592 But we couldn't say anything about it. It was a secret. 553 00:30:57,986 --> 00:31:00,641 ♪ Give me my freedom♪ 554 00:31:00,728 --> 00:31:04,863 ♪ For as long as I breathe♪ 555 00:31:05,907 --> 00:31:08,997 ♪ All I ask of living♪ 556 00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:12,871 ♪ Is to have no chains on me♪ 557 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:18,224 ♪ All I ask of living Is to have no chains on me♪ 558 00:31:18,311 --> 00:31:21,618 ♪ All I ask of dying Is to go naturally♪ 559 00:31:21,705 --> 00:31:23,229 ♪ Only wanna go naturally♪ 560 00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:24,926 ♪ Well, here I go♪ 561 00:31:25,013 --> 00:31:27,233 ♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa♪ 562 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,756 ♪ Hey, hey♪ 563 00:31:28,843 --> 00:31:30,366 ♪ Come on, Joe ♪ 564 00:31:39,332 --> 00:31:41,334 ♪ Don't want To go by the devil♪ 565 00:31:41,421 --> 00:31:42,988 ♪ Don't want To go by the demon♪ 566 00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:45,120 ♪ Don't want to go by Satan♪ 567 00:31:45,207 --> 00:31:52,040 ♪ Don't want to die uneasy♪ 568 00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:57,567 ♪ Just let me go♪ 569 00:31:59,613 --> 00:32:03,356 ♪ Naturally♪ 570 00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:10,319 ♪ And when I die♪ 571 00:32:12,582 --> 00:32:16,543 ♪ And when I'm dead♪ 572 00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:21,330 ♪ Dead and gone♪ 573 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:26,727 ♪ There'll be♪ 574 00:32:26,814 --> 00:32:33,038 ♪ One child born♪ 575 00:32:34,648 --> 00:32:40,915 ♪ In this world to carry on♪ 576 00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:49,750 ♪ To carry on♪ 577 00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:58,019 Thank you. Thank you. 578 00:33:14,166 --> 00:33:16,342 "BST concerts well attended. 579 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:19,301 Resulted in lasting positive impact. 580 00:33:19,388 --> 00:33:22,739 Extensive media coverage overwhelmingly positive. 581 00:33:22,826 --> 00:33:26,569 As lasting cultural impact on the BST visit persists, 582 00:33:26,656 --> 00:33:29,398 our enthusiasm for the visit mounts-- 583 00:33:29,485 --> 00:33:31,096 keeping in mind, of course, 584 00:33:31,183 --> 00:33:33,489 that one astute Yugoslav reviewer did refer 585 00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:36,405 to the visit as "the event of the decade!" 586 00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:42,324 ♪ Is that any way for a man♪ 587 00:33:42,411 --> 00:33:46,850 ♪ To carry on?♪ 588 00:33:46,937 --> 00:33:49,462 ♪ Lord, I know you think♪ 589 00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:52,421 ♪ He wants his little loved one Gone♪ 590 00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:56,034 ♪ Well♪ 591 00:33:57,252 --> 00:34:01,213 ♪ I love you, baby♪ 592 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:05,391 ♪ More than you'll ever know♪ 593 00:34:08,437 --> 00:34:11,266 ♪ More than you'll ever know♪ 594 00:34:19,318 --> 00:34:23,800 ♪ I'm not trying to be♪ 595 00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:30,546 ♪ Any kind of man♪ 596 00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:36,596 ♪ You see I'm just trying♪ 597 00:34:36,683 --> 00:34:39,338 ♪ To be somebody♪ 598 00:34:41,949 --> 00:34:45,953 ♪ That you can love Trust and understand♪ 599 00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:52,351 One place we played in, 600 00:34:52,438 --> 00:34:56,311 uh, Yugoslavia, 601 00:34:56,398 --> 00:34:58,748 um, some people didn't like us. 602 00:34:58,835 --> 00:35:01,186 I think some people threw 603 00:35:01,273 --> 00:35:03,449 beer cans at us or something. 604 00:35:03,536 --> 00:35:05,494 That's my memory of it. 605 00:35:05,581 --> 00:35:07,279 We're all looking at each other saying 606 00:35:07,366 --> 00:35:10,195 "This isn't going well," and it got worse. 607 00:35:10,282 --> 00:35:12,806 People were peeling out of the gig. 608 00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:15,069 By the end, there were not a lot of people left. 609 00:35:32,913 --> 00:35:35,524 That audience couldn't wait to get out of there. 610 00:35:35,611 --> 00:35:38,484 I'll say one thing, when we bomb we do it big. 611 00:35:38,571 --> 00:35:41,313 The end of the show, I walk off the stage, 612 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,966 and I look up, and there's a guy, 613 00:35:43,053 --> 00:35:46,709 a Charles Manson type, beard, crazy eyes, 614 00:35:46,796 --> 00:35:49,538 all the way up on the top, and he sees me, and he starts 615 00:35:49,625 --> 00:35:51,410 coming down, down, down, 616 00:35:51,497 --> 00:35:53,455 I'm going "You know what, it was worth it just for him. 617 00:35:53,542 --> 00:35:55,283 This guy had such a good time," 618 00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:57,155 and he comes right down to the front, 619 00:35:57,242 --> 00:35:58,678 and I go, "How you doing?" 620 00:35:58,765 --> 00:36:00,941 And he goes, "You stink! You stink!" 621 00:36:01,028 --> 00:36:02,725 And he like, throws-- He tried-- 622 00:36:02,812 --> 00:36:04,988 And I get out of the way, and I went... 623 00:36:05,075 --> 00:36:07,600 "The audience tried, but they didn't understand 624 00:36:07,687 --> 00:36:09,123 the music at all. 625 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:11,169 The sound was strange to them. 626 00:36:11,256 --> 00:36:14,172 We judged they were quite a bit behind us in the music scene. 627 00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:17,218 At any rate, the group left with no encores 628 00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:19,220 and pretty bent out of shape. 629 00:36:19,307 --> 00:36:21,657 At that point they decided to have a meeting for a vote 630 00:36:21,744 --> 00:36:25,052 whether they should continue the tour or split. 631 00:36:25,139 --> 00:36:26,923 The boys decide everything by vote. 632 00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:29,230 Nobody decides anything for them. 633 00:36:29,317 --> 00:36:33,408 It just can't work this way, except that it does." 634 00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:57,519 You know, we have a tendency here to say, 635 00:36:57,606 --> 00:37:01,393 "This is the Iron Curtain, and behind it, all is communism." 636 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,439 But communism is so diverse and varied, 637 00:37:04,526 --> 00:37:07,877 it would be like comparing the government of England 638 00:37:07,964 --> 00:37:09,749 to the government of Italy 639 00:37:09,836 --> 00:37:12,360 and saying they're both democratic countries. 640 00:37:12,447 --> 00:37:15,581 I know myself I said, "Wow, so this is communism. 641 00:37:15,668 --> 00:37:17,191 This is groovy." 642 00:37:17,278 --> 00:37:20,150 Then we went into Romania, Constanta. 643 00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:22,022 We got off the plane, and you could feel 644 00:37:22,109 --> 00:37:25,068 the Iron Curtain slam behind you. 645 00:37:25,155 --> 00:37:28,289 Mr. Blood, Mr. Sweat, Mr. Tears, 646 00:37:28,376 --> 00:37:29,899 your plane is ready. 647 00:37:40,606 --> 00:37:43,565 I met Steve Katz, and we were hanging out in the West Village. 648 00:37:43,652 --> 00:37:46,307 We became good friends, he had just come from a band 649 00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:47,961 called The Blues Project, 650 00:37:48,048 --> 00:37:49,963 and one of the members of The Blues Project 651 00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:51,530 was a guy named Al Cooper. 652 00:37:51,617 --> 00:37:54,402 Al Cooper had a publishing deal, 653 00:37:54,489 --> 00:37:56,143 brill building, 654 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:58,624 songwriter getting his songs done by other people, 655 00:37:58,711 --> 00:38:01,583 understood the business better than anybody. 656 00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:05,326 Al had always wanted to put horns into The Blues Project. 657 00:38:05,413 --> 00:38:09,025 And Danny Kalb who was the leader of The Blues Project 658 00:38:09,112 --> 00:38:11,071 nixed that idea. 659 00:38:11,158 --> 00:38:13,813 This is Al Cooper, Blood, Sweat & Tears. 660 00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,904 It's talent and enthusiasm that makes the band go, 661 00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:19,601 and the music that we do. 662 00:38:19,688 --> 00:38:21,995 Music that I believe in so strongly, 663 00:38:22,082 --> 00:38:24,693 that can only be translated through this band. 664 00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:26,652 I can't explain it any other way 665 00:38:26,739 --> 00:38:28,828 except to have you hear what we do. 666 00:38:28,915 --> 00:38:31,134 ♪ My darkest nights Come on like a light♪ 667 00:38:31,221 --> 00:38:33,659 ♪ I can't quit her♪ 668 00:38:33,746 --> 00:38:35,661 ♪ Try as I may♪ 669 00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:37,793 ♪ With all my might She had a woman's touch♪ 670 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,015 An opportunity to blend jazz with rock. 671 00:38:42,102 --> 00:38:45,758 I had always kind of wondered why somebody 672 00:38:45,845 --> 00:38:49,065 hadn't-- hadn't already done that-- that kind of thing. 673 00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:52,634 To have like, a full-on big band type sound. 674 00:38:56,943 --> 00:38:58,640 There was nothing like us. 675 00:38:58,727 --> 00:39:01,469 You know, there was no one doing what we were doing. 676 00:39:03,993 --> 00:39:07,606 It was the Cafe Au Go Go in The Village. 677 00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:11,436 I do remember sitting there watching and listening, 678 00:39:11,523 --> 00:39:14,961 and being very, very impressed 679 00:39:15,048 --> 00:39:17,572 that this was a new sound. 680 00:39:23,578 --> 00:39:26,581 I had never seen horns used this way. 681 00:39:26,668 --> 00:39:29,845 Truthfully it floored me, I was knocked out, 682 00:39:29,932 --> 00:39:31,934 and I agreed 683 00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:34,589 to sign them on the spot. 684 00:39:34,676 --> 00:39:37,331 ♪ She got her hand on me♪ 685 00:39:37,418 --> 00:39:39,377 Al put the deal together, 686 00:39:39,464 --> 00:39:41,770 he got a great producer, John Simon, 687 00:39:41,857 --> 00:39:43,729 and we made a record in a couple of weeks. 688 00:39:43,816 --> 00:39:45,992 I think the first album was great. 689 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,298 Very eclectic, all kinds of different music. 690 00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:49,952 It's like a treasure chest of-- 691 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:51,693 Little kid opening a treasure chest, a music box. 692 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:55,131 ♪ I see your face Everywhere I go♪ 693 00:39:55,218 --> 00:39:56,872 I loved the first album. 694 00:39:56,959 --> 00:40:00,267 Rock and roll, when it's horny, that's the best. 695 00:40:00,354 --> 00:40:02,617 And there are these horn arrangements 696 00:40:02,704 --> 00:40:05,054 that are spectacular and that were probably 697 00:40:05,141 --> 00:40:07,405 borrowed by every band that's ever followed 698 00:40:07,492 --> 00:40:09,102 that's dared to do horns. 699 00:40:09,189 --> 00:40:11,974 I even think of the name Blood, Sweat & Tears. 700 00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:14,977 I think it suggested a work ethic. 701 00:40:15,064 --> 00:40:16,936 A band that had really learned their instruments. 702 00:40:17,023 --> 00:40:18,677 A band that knew what the fuck they were doing. 703 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,295 That first album was one of the great 704 00:40:28,382 --> 00:40:31,037 American rock albums. 705 00:40:31,124 --> 00:40:34,432 It was influential, the rock critics loved it. 706 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:38,131 They were even analogies to being the American Beatles. 707 00:40:38,218 --> 00:40:39,828 The only difference is, 708 00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:43,963 and it's a significant commercial point, 709 00:40:44,050 --> 00:40:46,313 it didn't have singles in it, 710 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,099 but musically it was edgy, 711 00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:51,666 it was pioneering. 712 00:40:51,753 --> 00:40:54,626 It sold 40,000 albums. It was a failure. 713 00:40:54,713 --> 00:40:57,672 If that album was a great success, 714 00:40:57,759 --> 00:41:01,807 you think Al would have been out of the band? 715 00:41:01,894 --> 00:41:04,374 ♪ You won't find A manhole there♪ 716 00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:05,985 My only problem with it 717 00:41:06,072 --> 00:41:08,814 was I didn't feel that Al was the best singer, 718 00:41:08,901 --> 00:41:12,687 and we asked him to stay in the band as the leader of the band, 719 00:41:12,774 --> 00:41:14,515 but we wanted to get another singer. 720 00:41:14,602 --> 00:41:17,083 I felt the only way we could have success, 721 00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:19,215 the only way we could be on the radio 722 00:41:19,302 --> 00:41:21,304 and be heard was to have a stronger singer. 723 00:41:21,391 --> 00:41:24,133 He said, "Wait a minute, if I'm not the singer, I'm walking." 724 00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:26,701 I was shocked, I was surprised, 725 00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:30,531 this group was building, I was rooting for them. 726 00:41:30,618 --> 00:41:33,273 So that, yes, it was personally disappointing 727 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,668 to see these personal issues come in. 728 00:41:37,712 --> 00:41:41,368 I am now the band leader, Clive and I have a conversation. 729 00:41:41,455 --> 00:41:44,023 He says, "What do you think it's gonna take to keep this together?" 730 00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:46,634 So it begins with auditioning, 731 00:41:46,721 --> 00:41:49,289 and we auditioned a lot of singers. 732 00:41:49,376 --> 00:41:51,204 Bobby Colomby called me, 733 00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:53,641 he said "We'd like you to try out with our new band, 734 00:41:53,728 --> 00:41:55,904 Blood, Sweat & Tears," and we went to a rehearsal 735 00:41:55,991 --> 00:41:57,515 at the Cafe Au Go Go. 736 00:41:57,602 --> 00:42:00,735 I'd only had time to learn one or two songs. 737 00:42:00,822 --> 00:42:02,607 I'll never forget this. 738 00:42:02,694 --> 00:42:04,478 I said "Let's do 'I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know.' 739 00:42:04,565 --> 00:42:07,568 Here we go, one, two, three, one..." 740 00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:20,712 ♪ If I ever leave you♪ 741 00:42:20,799 --> 00:42:22,365 I said, "That's it, you got the gig." 742 00:42:22,452 --> 00:42:23,932 I don't think he sang-- 743 00:42:24,019 --> 00:42:26,108 I don't think he sang more than that. 744 00:42:26,195 --> 00:42:28,067 I was jumping up and down when I heard him 745 00:42:28,154 --> 00:42:31,984 after he finished the tune, uh, like a little kid. 746 00:42:32,071 --> 00:42:34,160 Uh, so excited. 747 00:42:34,247 --> 00:42:36,684 We all knew he's the guy. 748 00:42:36,771 --> 00:42:39,382 ♪ I chose you for the one♪ 749 00:42:39,469 --> 00:42:41,689 ♪ Now I'm having so much fun♪ 750 00:42:41,776 --> 00:42:44,344 ♪ You treated me so kind♪ 751 00:42:44,431 --> 00:42:46,738 ♪ I'm about to lose my mind♪ 752 00:42:46,825 --> 00:42:49,349 ♪ You made me so♪ 753 00:42:49,436 --> 00:42:51,917 ♪ Very happy♪ 754 00:42:52,004 --> 00:42:54,572 ♪ I'm so glad you♪ 755 00:42:54,659 --> 00:42:59,577 ♪ Came into my life♪ 756 00:43:01,753 --> 00:43:03,493 If you listen to the second album 757 00:43:03,581 --> 00:43:05,583 as opposed to the first, the first had echo 758 00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:07,846 and all kinds of sound effects. 759 00:43:07,933 --> 00:43:10,457 The second album is very flat, right in your face. 760 00:43:10,544 --> 00:43:12,720 It was beautifully conceived. 761 00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:15,636 That was one of the reasons, that and David singing, 762 00:43:15,723 --> 00:43:17,551 made it into a hit record. 763 00:43:17,638 --> 00:43:20,119 ♪ 'Cause you came And you took control♪ 764 00:43:20,206 --> 00:43:22,643 ♪ You touched my very soul♪ 765 00:43:22,730 --> 00:43:25,515 I used to call Billboard and Cashboxevery week 766 00:43:25,603 --> 00:43:28,301 to find out whether the album was on the charts or not, 767 00:43:28,388 --> 00:43:31,565 and in Cashbox,it went up to number 16 one week, 768 00:43:31,652 --> 00:43:33,698 I couldn't believe it, I was walking on air, 769 00:43:33,785 --> 00:43:35,917 I said, "Oh, my God, this is fabulous. 770 00:43:36,004 --> 00:43:38,180 We're a hit act." 771 00:43:38,267 --> 00:43:41,183 I called up next week, the woman who I would talk to 772 00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:42,750 who said, "I can't find it." 773 00:43:42,837 --> 00:43:44,839 I'm saying "Well, what the heck," you know. 774 00:43:44,926 --> 00:43:47,929 "It went up to 16, that's pretty good," right? 775 00:43:48,016 --> 00:43:50,018 She calls me back, and says, "You know what, 776 00:43:50,105 --> 00:43:52,020 I didn't think to look at number one." 777 00:43:56,198 --> 00:43:59,549 What we had with the second album 778 00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:02,944 would became one of the best-selling albums 779 00:44:03,031 --> 00:44:05,512 at that time in history, 780 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,384 with three huge singles, 781 00:44:08,471 --> 00:44:10,125 distinctive singles. 782 00:44:10,212 --> 00:44:12,475 Memorable singles. 783 00:44:12,562 --> 00:44:14,739 ♪ Thank you, baby♪ 784 00:44:14,826 --> 00:44:17,872 ♪ Thank you, baby♪ 785 00:44:20,353 --> 00:44:22,007 In the heyday of this band, 786 00:44:22,094 --> 00:44:24,139 you could not avoid Blood, Sweat & Tears. 787 00:44:24,226 --> 00:44:27,316 You turned on the radio, you were bound to hear one of our songs. 788 00:44:27,403 --> 00:44:29,797 We were ubiquitous. I'm serious, we were everywhere. 789 00:44:29,884 --> 00:44:32,060 The speed with which it happened was astounding. 790 00:44:32,147 --> 00:44:34,367 We were all middle-class guys, we didn't know, 791 00:44:34,454 --> 00:44:37,065 all of a sudden, sort of just changed our lives. 792 00:44:44,856 --> 00:44:48,381 Two promoters, Mike Lang, Artie Kornfeld, 793 00:44:48,468 --> 00:44:51,558 have an idea of doing a concert 794 00:44:51,645 --> 00:44:53,038 in New York, upstate somewhere. 795 00:44:53,125 --> 00:44:54,953 Without having the biggest band 796 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,303 in the world at that moment, 797 00:44:57,390 --> 00:45:00,959 it's not gonna be as easy to get other people to sign on. 798 00:45:01,046 --> 00:45:04,397 So one of the first bands they offered a gig to, 799 00:45:04,484 --> 00:45:05,877 was Blood, Sweat & Tears. 800 00:45:05,964 --> 00:45:08,793 To the aging kids who went to Lollapalooza 801 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,318 or to the, you know, slightly younger kids 802 00:45:12,405 --> 00:45:15,843 who went to Coachella, like, that universe 803 00:45:15,930 --> 00:45:18,585 of festivals, it all goes back to Woodstock. 804 00:45:18,672 --> 00:45:20,500 Ladies and gentlemen, 805 00:45:20,587 --> 00:45:24,722 please welcome with us, Blood, Sweat & Tears. 806 00:45:24,809 --> 00:45:27,246 Woodstock was the mother of all festivals, 807 00:45:27,333 --> 00:45:31,380 and it was sort of this accidental happening that changed the game. 808 00:45:31,467 --> 00:45:33,687 But it also based everyone in a light 809 00:45:33,774 --> 00:45:36,429 of being the anointed ones. 810 00:45:36,516 --> 00:45:40,041 The new generation that was going to sort of change the world. 811 00:45:40,128 --> 00:45:42,609 ♪ Like medicine, baby♪ 812 00:45:42,696 --> 00:45:44,350 ♪ You're good for me♪ 813 00:45:44,437 --> 00:45:46,091 ♪ Like honey, darlin', yeah♪ 814 00:45:46,178 --> 00:45:47,701 ♪ I know you're sweet to me♪ 815 00:45:47,788 --> 00:45:49,659 ♪ Each passing day♪ 816 00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:51,836 ♪ Brings us Much closer together♪ 817 00:45:51,923 --> 00:45:53,707 ♪ The love You give me, darlin'♪ 818 00:45:53,794 --> 00:45:55,274 ♪ Just gets better and better♪ 819 00:45:55,361 --> 00:45:57,406 ♪ That's why my love for you♪ 820 00:45:57,493 --> 00:45:59,191 ♪ Keep on growing♪ 821 00:45:59,278 --> 00:46:03,238 ♪ More and more all the time♪ 822 00:46:03,325 --> 00:46:05,458 ♪ More and more♪ 823 00:46:05,545 --> 00:46:07,677 ♪ All the time, all right♪ 824 00:46:07,765 --> 00:46:10,071 Most people don't know that we were at Woodstock. 825 00:46:10,158 --> 00:46:11,725 My daughter called me up, and said, 826 00:46:11,812 --> 00:46:13,727 "Dad, I thought you played at Woodstock," 827 00:46:13,814 --> 00:46:16,295 I say, "I did," "I saw the movie and you weren't in it." 828 00:46:18,166 --> 00:46:20,342 Well, a lot of people weren't in it. 829 00:46:21,996 --> 00:46:25,434 What happened is the big gates had all been knocked down. 830 00:46:25,521 --> 00:46:28,263 600,000 people had mobbed the fences, 831 00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:32,006 and broke them down, and there was no money, 832 00:46:32,093 --> 00:46:34,313 so the promoters couldn't pay anybody. 833 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,273 Then our manager, a guy named Bennett Glotzer at the time, 834 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,755 and when we hit the stage, we played like one, maybe two songs, 835 00:46:41,842 --> 00:46:43,626 and he ordered the cameras turned off. 836 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,025 History belongs to the one who gets in the movie, 837 00:46:51,112 --> 00:46:53,506 and they did not get in the movie, why? 838 00:46:53,593 --> 00:46:55,247 Probably 'cause, you know, 839 00:46:55,334 --> 00:46:57,815 the manager wanted an extra five grand, 840 00:46:57,902 --> 00:46:59,642 and he didn't get it, 841 00:46:59,729 --> 00:47:02,080 so then he goes "Okay, we're not in the movie." 842 00:47:02,167 --> 00:47:04,604 It's easy to make fun of Bennett Glotzer 843 00:47:04,691 --> 00:47:06,606 keeping them out of the Woodstock movie, 844 00:47:06,693 --> 00:47:09,000 but he wasn't the only one, there were other smart managers 845 00:47:09,087 --> 00:47:11,959 who said, "They're not paying enough to get you in the movie." 846 00:47:12,046 --> 00:47:14,614 So you never know, like, how history gets written. 847 00:47:24,189 --> 00:47:26,626 Now, the next question 848 00:47:26,713 --> 00:47:28,802 that you're all going to ask is, 849 00:47:28,889 --> 00:47:30,717 "Do you feel like you should have been in the movie?" 850 00:47:30,804 --> 00:47:34,329 Fuck yeah! It would have changed everything. 851 00:47:40,596 --> 00:47:43,251 You're asking me, was Blood, Sweat & Tears 852 00:47:43,338 --> 00:47:44,905 on a suicide mission 853 00:47:44,992 --> 00:47:47,647 playing Caesars Palace? 854 00:47:47,734 --> 00:47:51,216 Uh, well, 855 00:47:51,303 --> 00:47:54,654 we certainly thought it could be a suicide mission. 856 00:47:54,741 --> 00:47:56,699 On the other hand, we could see it 857 00:47:56,786 --> 00:48:00,442 as opening a door for other people in rock and roll 858 00:48:00,529 --> 00:48:03,010 to have a meaningful place to play. 859 00:48:03,097 --> 00:48:07,101 Now everybody does it, The Stones, Elton John, everybody's doing it. 860 00:48:07,188 --> 00:48:10,365 But it was a very controversial thing to do in those days. 861 00:48:10,452 --> 00:48:14,282 Vegas was everything that was garish and against everything 862 00:48:14,369 --> 00:48:15,980 that the counterculture stood for. 863 00:48:16,067 --> 00:48:17,503 So we got killed doing that. 864 00:48:19,331 --> 00:48:21,202 ♪ Go down gamblin'♪ 865 00:48:21,289 --> 00:48:25,032 ♪ Say it When you're runnin' low♪ 866 00:48:26,947 --> 00:48:29,558 ♪ Go down gamblin'♪ 867 00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:33,214 ♪ You may never have to go, no♪ 868 00:48:33,301 --> 00:48:36,522 Larry Goldblatt, our manager, was very creative 869 00:48:36,609 --> 00:48:39,351 and he got us into Caesars Palace, 870 00:48:39,438 --> 00:48:41,701 which no one had-- I don't think a rock band 871 00:48:41,788 --> 00:48:43,659 had ever played there, 872 00:48:43,746 --> 00:48:45,400 and when we played at Caesars Palace, 873 00:48:45,487 --> 00:48:47,837 we broke Sinatra's attendance record. 874 00:48:49,927 --> 00:48:53,147 The crème de la crème of Hollywood was there that night. 875 00:48:53,234 --> 00:48:56,281 Elizabeth Taylor, Frank Sinatra, Count Basie, 876 00:48:56,368 --> 00:49:00,024 you know, Sammy Davis Jr., Sidney Poitier, 877 00:49:00,111 --> 00:49:01,634 and I walked out, and looked in the audience, 878 00:49:01,721 --> 00:49:03,853 and went "Oh, my God, this is surreal." 879 00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:07,074 And it was a tremendous success in that way, 880 00:49:07,161 --> 00:49:09,772 but again, that underground press 881 00:49:09,859 --> 00:49:12,210 of the day, "Oh, sellout." 882 00:49:12,297 --> 00:49:15,604 Playing Las Vegas, big mistake, 883 00:49:15,691 --> 00:49:17,998 but boy, a lot of fun. 884 00:49:18,085 --> 00:49:20,914 It was not fatal to them, but it would, certainly 885 00:49:21,001 --> 00:49:22,263 didn't add to their luster. 886 00:49:24,048 --> 00:49:27,094 But the next gig we had after Las Vegas 887 00:49:27,181 --> 00:49:29,531 was the Fillmore East, 888 00:49:29,618 --> 00:49:31,403 which is one of the hippest places 889 00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:33,492 you could play in the United States. 890 00:49:34,797 --> 00:49:37,409 ♪ Go down gamblin'♪ 891 00:49:38,584 --> 00:49:41,761 Then we played a fundraiser at Madison Square Garden 892 00:49:41,848 --> 00:49:43,763 with Jimi Hendrix, and it was amazing, 893 00:49:43,850 --> 00:49:46,940 and then we played in Cleveland to raise money 894 00:49:47,027 --> 00:49:50,770 for the ACLU to reopen the case 895 00:49:50,857 --> 00:49:54,121 for the kids that got massacred at Kent State. 896 00:49:54,208 --> 00:49:56,689 We didn't abandon our fan base at all. 897 00:49:56,776 --> 00:49:58,647 There's no question, Blood, Sweat & Tears 898 00:49:58,734 --> 00:50:01,172 was still a powerful draw 899 00:50:01,259 --> 00:50:05,002 as far as audience and their big album is concerned. 900 00:50:05,089 --> 00:50:08,831 And I'll preface this by saying, we were one year away 901 00:50:08,918 --> 00:50:11,182 from when they videoed the Grammys. 902 00:50:11,269 --> 00:50:14,620 So we're not videoed, or on camera. 903 00:50:14,707 --> 00:50:16,404 We missed all of that. 904 00:50:16,491 --> 00:50:19,451 We were nominated for many Grammy Awards. 905 00:50:19,538 --> 00:50:22,932 The winner for album of the year, 906 00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:26,501 the most prestigious award, Blood, Sweat & Tears. 907 00:50:27,937 --> 00:50:29,939 A distant second, Abby Road. 908 00:50:36,163 --> 00:50:40,167 When they won Best Album, and not only beat The Beatles, 909 00:50:40,254 --> 00:50:44,128 but got the award handed to them by Louie Armstrong, 910 00:50:44,215 --> 00:50:46,086 there was nothing cooler than that. 911 00:51:00,927 --> 00:51:03,060 When we left Yugoslavia, 912 00:51:03,147 --> 00:51:06,150 our next stop was Romania. 913 00:51:06,237 --> 00:51:07,890 Romania. 914 00:51:07,977 --> 00:51:11,198 We had stepped into a different world. 915 00:51:11,285 --> 00:51:14,419 The first thing that we saw when we got off the plane 916 00:51:14,506 --> 00:51:18,031 were guards with submachine guns 917 00:51:18,118 --> 00:51:22,209 across the tarmac, looking at us. 918 00:51:28,650 --> 00:51:30,174 Everything was kinda dark, 919 00:51:30,261 --> 00:51:32,915 I don't mean the sun didn't come out, 920 00:51:33,002 --> 00:51:34,700 it was very oppressive. 921 00:51:34,787 --> 00:51:37,572 It just felt like there's no freedom. 922 00:51:37,659 --> 00:51:40,836 We're all alone in a foreign land. 923 00:51:40,923 --> 00:51:43,578 Well, those are certainly not friendly glances. 924 00:51:43,665 --> 00:51:46,886 Just who do all those sinister eyeballs belong to? 925 00:51:46,973 --> 00:51:49,976 You know I got kind of a sneaky feeling we're being watched. 926 00:51:50,063 --> 00:51:52,979 Oh, nonsense, Bullwinkle. Who'd wanna watch us? 927 00:51:53,066 --> 00:51:56,069 Well, the answer to that was simple enough, everybody. 928 00:51:58,941 --> 00:52:00,943 As soon as everything was at the hotel, 929 00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:02,771 they started snooping through it. 930 00:52:02,858 --> 00:52:06,035 And I had watched my James Bond movies. 931 00:52:09,213 --> 00:52:12,303 So I knew you put a thread over the drawer, 932 00:52:14,043 --> 00:52:16,655 and if you came back, and the thread was gone, 933 00:52:16,742 --> 00:52:18,700 then you would know somebody had opened the drawer. 934 00:52:18,787 --> 00:52:20,049 Well, they did. 935 00:52:25,403 --> 00:52:28,362 Most of the film crew as well as the band members 936 00:52:28,449 --> 00:52:30,190 have very long hair, 937 00:52:30,277 --> 00:52:32,932 and they are dressed excessively 938 00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:35,064 eccentric and garrulous. 939 00:52:40,157 --> 00:52:42,420 When we'd go into a coffee shop, 940 00:52:42,507 --> 00:52:44,291 and there would be a guy sitting there 941 00:52:44,378 --> 00:52:46,467 with a newspaper upside-down with a hole in it, 942 00:52:46,554 --> 00:52:50,123 you know looking at us, and they would follow us around. 943 00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:53,170 It was wonderfully wacky. 944 00:52:53,257 --> 00:52:55,346 Just the way you would think 945 00:52:55,433 --> 00:52:58,175 a spy thriller would be. 946 00:52:58,262 --> 00:52:59,872 It was incredible. 947 00:52:59,959 --> 00:53:02,614 Like, men in black hats and black overcoats. 948 00:53:02,701 --> 00:53:06,095 I mean, you could spot them three miles away. 949 00:53:06,183 --> 00:53:08,881 In one sense it was very, very laughable, 950 00:53:08,968 --> 00:53:12,928 but in another sense, their presence was all around us. 951 00:53:13,015 --> 00:53:15,279 I stepped out of the hotel and took a picture, 952 00:53:15,366 --> 00:53:17,150 and, like, two guys grabbed me. 953 00:53:17,237 --> 00:53:19,761 Took the camera, stripped the film out of the camera. 954 00:53:19,848 --> 00:53:23,678 "You can't take a picture of that bridge, it's a military bridge." 955 00:53:26,072 --> 00:53:27,204 Uh, just like that. 956 00:53:32,252 --> 00:53:34,254 I'm wandering outside the hotel, 957 00:53:34,341 --> 00:53:35,821 it's almost midnight, 958 00:53:35,908 --> 00:53:38,345 and it's the guy with the newspaper, 959 00:53:38,432 --> 00:53:41,261 and he's-- he's doing a lot of this, 960 00:53:41,348 --> 00:53:44,003 and I'm walking here, and he's... 961 00:53:44,090 --> 00:53:45,700 and I'd walk over here. 962 00:53:49,051 --> 00:53:50,705 I was having breakfast. 963 00:53:50,792 --> 00:53:53,795 I don't remember what I ordered, but I noticed some-- 964 00:53:53,882 --> 00:53:56,276 Like, in a Peter Sellers movie. 965 00:54:01,542 --> 00:54:05,416 There was a man behind me like-- like-- 966 00:54:05,503 --> 00:54:07,374 Almost like he was doing it on purpose, 967 00:54:07,461 --> 00:54:11,030 but they were serious, and it was very corny to me, 968 00:54:11,117 --> 00:54:14,990 but he was like, trying to be not noticed. 969 00:54:15,077 --> 00:54:19,299 It's only me and him, duh. 970 00:54:21,083 --> 00:54:23,042 Little did our heroes know that at that moment 971 00:54:23,129 --> 00:54:25,174 they are the object of close scrutiny 972 00:54:25,262 --> 00:54:28,352 by an eye high in the sky. 973 00:54:28,439 --> 00:54:31,746 Why is this fearless leader keeping tab on our heroes? 974 00:54:31,833 --> 00:54:33,661 Maybe we'll find out next time-- 975 00:54:33,748 --> 00:54:37,274 - Over your dead body. - And maybe we won't. 976 00:54:39,537 --> 00:54:43,280 The Romanian leader was a horrific authoritarian 977 00:54:43,367 --> 00:54:45,238 named Nicolae Ceausescu. 978 00:54:45,325 --> 00:54:47,414 Ceausescu was a dictator, 979 00:54:47,501 --> 00:54:49,547 he's a monster, actually. 980 00:54:49,634 --> 00:54:51,418 In 1968 981 00:54:51,505 --> 00:54:53,942 the Czech government 982 00:54:54,029 --> 00:54:57,032 had tried to reform itself, 983 00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:00,514 and went too far, and the Soviets responded 984 00:55:00,601 --> 00:55:02,734 by invading Czechoslovakia. 985 00:55:05,258 --> 00:55:08,261 Ceausescu-- wants-- 986 00:55:08,348 --> 00:55:10,481 sees this balancing act. 987 00:55:10,568 --> 00:55:12,265 Uh, he wants to get 988 00:55:12,352 --> 00:55:15,137 more autonomy from the Soviets, 989 00:55:15,224 --> 00:55:17,096 and more economic benefits 990 00:55:17,183 --> 00:55:18,924 from the United States, 991 00:55:19,011 --> 00:55:22,319 without triggering a Soviet invasion, 992 00:55:22,406 --> 00:55:25,147 and without losing any real power. 993 00:55:25,234 --> 00:55:28,586 It is the sense that Ceausescu wants to be 994 00:55:28,673 --> 00:55:29,978 a maverick communist 995 00:55:30,065 --> 00:55:32,067 that leads the Nixon administration 996 00:55:32,154 --> 00:55:33,504 to be interested in him. 997 00:55:33,591 --> 00:55:35,244 It is the first visit 998 00:55:35,332 --> 00:55:38,291 of a president of the United States to Romania. 999 00:55:38,378 --> 00:55:42,121 The first state visit by an American president 1000 00:55:42,208 --> 00:55:44,689 to a Socialist country or to this region 1001 00:55:44,776 --> 00:55:46,517 of the continent of Europe. 1002 00:55:46,604 --> 00:55:50,042 And the purpose of my visit here is to improve 1003 00:55:50,129 --> 00:55:52,958 communications between our two nations. 1004 00:55:53,045 --> 00:55:56,614 Traiasca prietenia Romano-Americana. 1005 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,749 Nixon's visit to Romania establishes 1006 00:56:01,836 --> 00:56:04,012 a relationship with Ceausescu, 1007 00:56:04,099 --> 00:56:06,232 and that's the opening 1008 00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:10,149 through which Blood, Sweat & Tears will enter the country. 1009 00:56:10,236 --> 00:56:13,457 Now what's ironic is that, you know, 1010 00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:15,850 Richard Nixon couldn't stand rock music, 1011 00:56:15,937 --> 00:56:17,852 and the idea that the Romanians think 1012 00:56:17,939 --> 00:56:19,680 they're doing something for Richard Nixon 1013 00:56:19,767 --> 00:56:22,248 by letting Blood, Sweat & Tears come to Romania 1014 00:56:22,335 --> 00:56:24,729 is sort of very funny in retrospect. 1015 00:56:24,816 --> 00:56:25,904 I mean it... 1016 00:56:51,451 --> 00:56:55,934 ♪ Someone's waiting Just for you♪ 1017 00:56:56,021 --> 00:57:00,286 ♪ Spinning wheel Spinning through♪ 1018 00:57:05,378 --> 00:57:10,296 ♪ Catch a painted pony Let the spinnin' wheel fly♪ 1019 00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:55,384 Hey, everybody, could we be quiet for one second? 1020 00:57:55,472 --> 00:57:58,387 David, David, can you listen to me, please? 1021 00:57:58,475 --> 00:58:00,128 They're gonna want another set. 1022 00:58:02,217 --> 00:58:05,786 The audience would not stop cheering. 1023 00:58:05,873 --> 00:58:07,832 They cheered and cheered and cheered. 1024 00:58:07,919 --> 00:58:10,704 Oh, those kids were amazing. 1025 00:58:10,791 --> 00:58:12,663 They just-- uh, they loved it, 1026 00:58:12,750 --> 00:58:16,318 they wanted, uh, encore after encore. 1027 00:58:17,363 --> 00:58:20,235 - Come on, let's do it. - I can't. 1028 00:58:34,728 --> 00:58:37,601 ♪ I can't quit her, no♪ 1029 00:58:37,688 --> 00:58:38,993 ♪ She got a hand on me♪ 1030 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,647 ♪ She got a hold of my soul♪ 1031 00:58:40,734 --> 00:58:42,910 ♪ I can't quit her♪ 1032 00:58:42,997 --> 00:58:45,522 ♪ 'Cause I see her face Everywhere I go♪ 1033 00:58:45,609 --> 00:58:48,350 ♪ In the city streets, In the country field♪ 1034 00:58:48,437 --> 00:58:50,788 ♪ The back of my mind I know it can't be real♪ 1035 00:58:50,875 --> 00:58:55,314 ♪ For a woman to possess All the tenderness she had♪ 1036 00:58:55,401 --> 00:58:56,968 ♪ Yeah♪ 1037 00:58:57,055 --> 00:58:58,230 ♪ Let me go, woman♪ 1038 00:59:08,196 --> 00:59:10,634 ♪ I can't quit her, no♪ 1039 00:59:11,635 --> 00:59:14,681 ♪ 'Cause on my darkest night She comes on like a light♪ 1040 00:59:14,768 --> 00:59:16,857 ♪ I can't quit her♪ 1041 00:59:16,944 --> 00:59:19,425 ♪ Try as I may, With all my might♪ 1042 00:59:19,512 --> 00:59:20,557 ♪ She had a♪ 1043 00:59:21,775 --> 00:59:27,172 ♪ Ooh, can't quit her, no♪ 1044 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,001 ♪ Hey♪ 1045 01:00:44,989 --> 01:00:46,033 Thank you. 1046 01:00:49,254 --> 01:00:53,388 They are looking at freedom, and they're reacting to it, 1047 01:00:53,475 --> 01:00:56,478 and that didn't go well with the government for sure. 1048 01:01:02,223 --> 01:01:05,096 That moment where it might start 1049 01:01:05,183 --> 01:01:07,489 to look like social protest, 1050 01:01:07,576 --> 01:01:10,841 or it might start to even just look... 1051 01:01:12,581 --> 01:01:16,194 um, like not just enjoying the music. 1052 01:01:17,412 --> 01:01:20,111 That would be a concern. 1053 01:01:27,422 --> 01:01:29,337 The kids were jumping up out of their seats, 1054 01:01:29,424 --> 01:01:33,254 yelling, with peace signs going, "USA, USA, peace, peace." 1055 01:01:33,341 --> 01:01:36,693 USA, USA, USA, USA. 1056 01:01:38,433 --> 01:01:41,132 I remember seeing one youngster in the audience 1057 01:01:41,219 --> 01:01:43,830 with chains, like this. 1058 01:01:51,490 --> 01:01:55,059 Anyway, so this was a bit much 1059 01:01:55,146 --> 01:01:58,366 for the Romania authorities. 1060 01:01:58,453 --> 01:02:01,021 This was-- uh, this kind of-- 1061 01:02:01,108 --> 01:02:03,894 It was too chaotic for them to deal with. 1062 01:02:05,373 --> 01:02:08,333 This, uh, repressed desire for freedom. 1063 01:02:11,728 --> 01:02:13,425 As soon as the audience started 1064 01:02:13,512 --> 01:02:17,603 to really erupt into all of their happiness, 1065 01:02:17,690 --> 01:02:20,911 the soldiers started to move in. 1066 01:02:20,998 --> 01:02:24,349 USA, USA, USA, USA. 1067 01:02:24,436 --> 01:02:26,481 Someone started a fire. 1068 01:02:26,568 --> 01:02:29,920 This drove the guards crazy. 1069 01:02:30,007 --> 01:02:32,792 There was a lot of grabbing and stomping on the floor. 1070 01:02:32,879 --> 01:02:35,186 The audience was reacting 1071 01:02:35,273 --> 01:02:37,318 to what the guards were doing to them. 1072 01:02:37,405 --> 01:02:39,451 They were trying to say, "To hell with you. 1073 01:02:39,538 --> 01:02:41,148 We're gonna be doing what we want." 1074 01:02:43,803 --> 01:02:45,936 It was absolutely fabulous 1075 01:02:46,023 --> 01:02:49,548 how the band and their music 1076 01:02:49,635 --> 01:02:51,419 touched them so deeply. 1077 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,939 I was with Lew when we got a call from Larry Goldblatt 1078 01:03:33,026 --> 01:03:35,202 that there was a meeting in Steve's room. 1079 01:03:35,289 --> 01:03:37,726 How many of you are here now? One, two. 1080 01:03:37,814 --> 01:03:39,598 Five are here and two more are on their-- 1081 01:03:39,685 --> 01:03:41,513 - How long is it gonna take? - We're stopping. 1082 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,297 Our man at the embassy 1083 01:03:43,384 --> 01:03:46,605 explained to us that our concert had been termed 1084 01:03:46,692 --> 01:03:49,260 by the Romanian government as too successful. 1085 01:03:49,347 --> 01:03:50,739 You have to realize 1086 01:03:50,827 --> 01:03:52,176 what kind of a society you are in. 1087 01:03:52,263 --> 01:03:53,612 Who you are dealing with. 1088 01:03:53,699 --> 01:03:56,267 You were entirely too successful 1089 01:03:56,354 --> 01:03:58,704 for the likings of the regime. 1090 01:03:58,791 --> 01:04:01,315 The question is whether you will have a show tonight or not 1091 01:04:01,402 --> 01:04:04,231 and the question is whether you will do any filming in Romania or not. 1092 01:04:05,232 --> 01:04:07,626 The presence of a film crew 1093 01:04:07,713 --> 01:04:10,411 was a game changer in a lot of ways. 1094 01:04:10,498 --> 01:04:13,371 From the embassy's slightly nervous perspective, 1095 01:04:13,458 --> 01:04:15,503 having the film crew there 1096 01:04:15,590 --> 01:04:17,897 was amplifying the crowd's excitement 1097 01:04:17,984 --> 01:04:20,378 in a way that might have been counterproductive 1098 01:04:20,465 --> 01:04:23,207 in terms of controlling the event, 1099 01:04:23,294 --> 01:04:26,297 in terms of not angering the Romanian government. 1100 01:04:26,384 --> 01:04:28,952 What held these police states together was fear. 1101 01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:31,519 Fear of the police. Fear of the military. 1102 01:04:31,606 --> 01:04:34,479 Fear that your neighbor was an informant. 1103 01:04:34,566 --> 01:04:36,829 That you'd lose your job. That you'd lose your apartment. 1104 01:04:36,916 --> 01:04:39,440 That you might go to jail. That you might be shot. 1105 01:04:39,527 --> 01:04:43,314 When you have an ecstatic audience response 1106 01:04:43,401 --> 01:04:45,098 to a cultural moment, 1107 01:04:45,185 --> 01:04:47,535 many people forgot about that fear, 1108 01:04:47,622 --> 01:04:49,146 but not everybody. 1109 01:04:49,233 --> 01:04:51,191 Representers of the Romanian government 1110 01:04:51,278 --> 01:04:53,193 were fearful for their own jobs. 1111 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,414 "Oh, my God, if Ceausescu hears 1112 01:04:56,501 --> 01:05:01,767 that there was a pro-USA demonstration on my watch, I may go to jail." 1113 01:05:01,854 --> 01:05:04,596 They have laid down certain conditions 1114 01:05:04,683 --> 01:05:06,380 which they want to have met. 1115 01:05:06,467 --> 01:05:09,122 I'm not saying for a moment that we will force you, 1116 01:05:09,209 --> 01:05:12,343 that we will demand from you that you meet these conditions, 1117 01:05:12,430 --> 01:05:16,216 but I think it's clear that if none of their conditions are accepted, 1118 01:05:16,303 --> 01:05:18,784 we will have no show tonight. 1119 01:05:18,871 --> 01:05:21,961 They would also have been very concerned about what got onto film. 1120 01:05:22,048 --> 01:05:24,268 They wouldn't want 1121 01:05:24,355 --> 01:05:27,662 the police to be seen as repressive 1122 01:05:27,749 --> 01:05:30,578 in a way that would then look bad in the West. 1123 01:05:30,665 --> 01:05:32,885 This is the Bucharest manifesto. 1124 01:05:34,060 --> 01:05:36,845 "Number one, more jazz. 1125 01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:38,369 Two, less rhythm, 1126 01:05:38,456 --> 01:05:40,501 by that they mean big beat, rock, 1127 01:05:40,588 --> 01:05:43,243 whatever excites the audience to what they call-- 1128 01:05:43,330 --> 01:05:45,811 whatever they-- whatever excites what they call 1129 01:05:45,898 --> 01:05:48,379 the peripheral characters in the audience 1130 01:05:48,466 --> 01:05:51,382 to craziness, as they said. 1131 01:05:52,383 --> 01:05:55,908 Three, fewer gestures and body movements. 1132 01:05:55,995 --> 01:05:59,781 Four, no taking off articles of clothing on stage. 1133 01:05:59,868 --> 01:06:03,829 Five, keep technicians with long hair off stage. 1134 01:06:03,916 --> 01:06:07,398 Six, no filming tonight. 1135 01:06:07,485 --> 01:06:10,488 Seven, if the audience makes too much noise, 1136 01:06:10,575 --> 01:06:11,837 stop the show. 1137 01:06:11,924 --> 01:06:15,275 Eight, maximum of two encores. 1138 01:06:15,362 --> 01:06:17,712 Nine, reduce sound level. 1139 01:06:17,799 --> 01:06:21,020 Ten, no throwing musical instruments off stage. 1140 01:06:21,107 --> 01:06:22,717 It seems ludicrous now, 1141 01:06:22,804 --> 01:06:24,110 but this really happened. 1142 01:06:24,197 --> 01:06:26,460 We had a song called "Smiling Phases" 1143 01:06:26,547 --> 01:06:29,333 and on the intro of the song, 1144 01:06:29,420 --> 01:06:30,725 I hit a big gong. 1145 01:06:30,812 --> 01:06:32,162 Bang. 1146 01:06:32,249 --> 01:06:33,902 It's kind of rock and roll theatre. 1147 01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:36,427 I hit the gong three times, and on the fourth time, 1148 01:06:36,514 --> 01:06:37,906 I would just toss it on the ground. 1149 01:06:37,994 --> 01:06:39,473 When it hit the floor, 1150 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,171 the band would kick in to "Smiling Phases." 1151 01:06:43,042 --> 01:06:44,522 That was just part of our show. 1152 01:06:44,609 --> 01:06:46,350 We've been doing it like that way for a year. 1153 01:06:53,661 --> 01:06:55,620 We didn't realize 1154 01:06:55,707 --> 01:06:58,014 that we had struck a wrong nerve with Ceausescu. 1155 01:06:58,101 --> 01:06:59,754 Now let me just tell you the way it was left 1156 01:06:59,841 --> 01:07:02,366 and the way that they understand it now. 1157 01:07:02,453 --> 01:07:04,672 I told them I would ask you 1158 01:07:04,759 --> 01:07:07,284 to play the-- more jazz, 1159 01:07:07,371 --> 01:07:10,461 and not throw the gong off the stage. 1160 01:07:10,548 --> 01:07:13,377 Uh, and I would ask the sound technicians 1161 01:07:13,464 --> 01:07:16,597 if they could have an-- uh, the proper sound 1162 01:07:16,684 --> 01:07:19,165 by decreasing the level, and that's all. 1163 01:07:19,252 --> 01:07:22,603 May I ask, who is this-- the man in Romania 1164 01:07:22,690 --> 01:07:25,693 who's the jazz, uh, finder? 1165 01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:28,392 Who's the man that's gonna stand there with a jazz meter? 1166 01:07:28,479 --> 01:07:30,959 Not enough jazz. 1167 01:07:31,047 --> 01:07:33,266 Can I tell them 1168 01:07:33,353 --> 01:07:37,314 that you will remember what we discussed here? 1169 01:07:37,401 --> 01:07:38,924 - You listening, Bobby? - Yes. 1170 01:07:39,011 --> 01:07:40,447 You can tell them that and we'll go to play. 1171 01:07:40,534 --> 01:07:42,536 And that you'll play more jazz and-- Fine. 1172 01:07:42,623 --> 01:07:44,712 - We can tell 'em-- - So you could-- yeah, right. 1173 01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:46,279 Well, you would go and play more jazz, 1174 01:07:46,366 --> 01:07:47,933 but I don't wanna play more jazz maybe. 1175 01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:49,587 We'll play more jazz. 1176 01:07:49,674 --> 01:07:52,242 In the contract that exists for your being here, 1177 01:07:52,329 --> 01:07:54,200 one clause in that contact says 1178 01:07:54,287 --> 01:07:56,724 that the show must be decent. 1179 01:07:56,811 --> 01:07:58,509 What are the consequences 1180 01:07:58,596 --> 01:08:01,555 if we do the same show as we did last night, period? 1181 01:08:01,642 --> 01:08:03,688 - Without dancing-- - No, wait, no. 1182 01:08:03,775 --> 01:08:05,429 No, because you can't-- Dan you-- 1183 01:08:05,516 --> 01:08:07,561 If he gets into it, you can't guarantee that. 1184 01:08:12,610 --> 01:08:14,829 At the meeting, we had no choice 1185 01:08:14,916 --> 01:08:17,267 except to agree to try and stop trouble. 1186 01:08:17,354 --> 01:08:19,965 I think almost everyone was really uptight 1187 01:08:20,052 --> 01:08:21,880 about our situation there 1188 01:08:21,967 --> 01:08:26,058 and we did not wanna change around our set so drastically 1189 01:08:26,145 --> 01:08:28,495 that our music would completely change. 1190 01:08:28,582 --> 01:08:31,107 So we were basically saying to the government, 1191 01:08:31,194 --> 01:08:32,630 "Screw you," you know, 1192 01:08:32,717 --> 01:08:34,240 "We're gonna do as good a job as we can 1193 01:08:34,327 --> 01:08:35,633 and make the audience happy 1194 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,287 with as much rock and roll as we can," 1195 01:08:37,374 --> 01:08:38,549 and that's what we did. 1196 01:09:09,275 --> 01:09:11,408 ♪ Something coming on♪ 1197 01:09:11,495 --> 01:09:14,541 ♪ Don't know what it is But it's getting stronger♪ 1198 01:09:14,628 --> 01:09:17,631 They had demanded that there was no filming. 1199 01:09:17,718 --> 01:09:21,200 I talked to my five cameramen and said, 1200 01:09:21,287 --> 01:09:24,116 "I'm sure that you all have your still cameras with you?" 1201 01:09:24,203 --> 01:09:27,989 They said, "Yeah." I said, "Pull 'em out. 1202 01:09:28,076 --> 01:09:30,775 We can't shoot it with our 16 millimeter, 1203 01:09:30,862 --> 01:09:34,518 we'll shoot our 35 stills, and they can't stop us." 1204 01:09:35,736 --> 01:09:37,825 ♪ Suddenly she came in♪ 1205 01:09:37,912 --> 01:09:39,697 ♪ Looked like She'd been gaming♪ 1206 01:09:39,784 --> 01:09:41,829 ♪ Doing things With everybody else♪ 1207 01:09:42,917 --> 01:09:44,528 ♪ When I called out loud♪ 1208 01:09:44,615 --> 01:09:46,399 ♪ She answered from the crowd♪ 1209 01:09:46,486 --> 01:09:49,185 ♪ That she'd spend her life Upon the shelf♪ 1210 01:09:49,272 --> 01:09:51,491 ♪ Something coming on♪ 1211 01:09:51,578 --> 01:09:54,842 ♪ Don't know what it is But it's getting stronger♪ 1212 01:09:55,843 --> 01:09:57,889 ♪ I've got a feeling In my bones♪ 1213 01:09:57,976 --> 01:10:01,588 ♪ And I hope you let it last A little bit longer♪ 1214 01:10:01,675 --> 01:10:03,199 As the lead singer, 1215 01:10:03,286 --> 01:10:04,983 I get a good read of the audience. 1216 01:10:05,070 --> 01:10:07,464 I could tell them kids in the audience were praying. 1217 01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:10,989 "Please, please, hit the gong. 1218 01:10:11,076 --> 01:10:12,904 Please, do it, please." 1219 01:10:13,905 --> 01:10:15,428 Give them that, you know what I mean? 1220 01:10:16,777 --> 01:10:18,779 Time came, 1221 01:10:18,866 --> 01:10:20,694 started "Smiling Phases," 1222 01:10:20,781 --> 01:10:23,262 and I looked at Lew Soloff and he looked-- 1223 01:10:23,349 --> 01:10:25,133 looked at me and said, "Fuck 'em." 1224 01:10:30,922 --> 01:10:33,664 David throws the gong into the audience. 1225 01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:39,670 In slow-motion I'm imagining like The Godfather, 1226 01:10:39,757 --> 01:10:44,152 machine guns slowly-- in slow motion, 1227 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,505 and all blood and everything coming out of all of us, dead. 1228 01:10:48,592 --> 01:10:50,898 Blood, Sweat & Tears is dead, you know. 1229 01:10:50,985 --> 01:10:52,639 Thank you, David. 1230 01:10:52,726 --> 01:10:56,382 ♪ Smiling phases Bring you flowers♪ 1231 01:10:56,469 --> 01:10:57,949 And I wanted to go on record 1232 01:10:58,036 --> 01:10:59,429 saying I'm proud of David. 1233 01:10:59,516 --> 01:11:00,647 Why? 1234 01:11:01,779 --> 01:11:04,521 Because that was his anti-establishment-- 1235 01:11:04,608 --> 01:11:06,131 uh, even though it was the establishment 1236 01:11:06,218 --> 01:11:08,176 of the Romanian government, 1237 01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:10,396 it was still, uh, the right thing to do. 1238 01:11:30,416 --> 01:11:32,940 Come on, guys, let's go. Steven. 1239 01:11:33,027 --> 01:11:34,899 Let's go out and take a bow, okay? 1240 01:11:34,986 --> 01:11:37,249 Let's take a bow. Come on. No? 1241 01:11:37,336 --> 01:11:39,207 Don't play. Don't play. No. - No? 1242 01:11:39,295 --> 01:11:41,775 Get David in here. Get David in here. 1243 01:11:41,862 --> 01:11:44,082 David is out. David, come back. 1244 01:11:44,169 --> 01:11:45,997 The kids weren't gonna leave, 1245 01:11:46,084 --> 01:11:48,782 and it was just yelling and-- and singing 1246 01:11:48,869 --> 01:11:52,699 and just having a great time getting real rowdy. 1247 01:11:52,786 --> 01:11:55,136 Rand, I'm excited. I wanna play for those kids. 1248 01:11:55,223 --> 01:11:56,921 One more song won't make a difference. 1249 01:11:57,008 --> 01:11:58,662 - I don't either, man. 1250 01:11:58,749 --> 01:12:00,838 But yelling at 'em is not gonna get anything done. 1251 01:12:00,925 --> 01:12:04,015 Now we can do an encore and we can cool that crowd down. 1252 01:12:04,102 --> 01:12:05,799 He's telling us not to do it. They're telling us not to. 1253 01:12:05,886 --> 01:12:08,715 I wanna run over people, man, and ruin something. 1254 01:12:08,802 --> 01:12:11,936 All of a sudden the police brought in dogs. 1255 01:12:13,764 --> 01:12:16,593 Set the dogs loose on the crowd. 1256 01:12:34,393 --> 01:12:36,264 You see those dogs going into the crowd? 1257 01:12:36,352 --> 01:12:38,789 The kids ran through a plate glass window in the back. 1258 01:12:38,876 --> 01:12:41,792 True, they broke it. 1259 01:12:41,879 --> 01:12:43,359 They-- they stood there 1260 01:12:43,446 --> 01:12:45,186 and broke the window, lit a fire. 1261 01:12:45,273 --> 01:12:47,406 Lit a fire? I walked off that stage, 1262 01:12:47,493 --> 01:12:49,277 the last goddamn thing I saw, man, 1263 01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:52,019 was those kids laughing, man, and they're happy. 1264 01:12:52,106 --> 01:12:55,109 We gave them guns and bloodshed, that's what we gave them 1265 01:12:55,196 --> 01:12:57,329 and all they wanted to do was be happy. 1266 01:12:57,416 --> 01:12:59,679 One kid had managed to get backstage, 1267 01:12:59,766 --> 01:13:01,420 and he just wanted an autograph. 1268 01:13:01,507 --> 01:13:03,030 The police saw him 1269 01:13:03,117 --> 01:13:05,206 and saw that he wasn't supposed to be there. 1270 01:13:05,293 --> 01:13:09,559 Took him into a dressing room and beat the crap out of him. 1271 01:13:15,391 --> 01:13:18,350 He came back out all bruised and bloody, 1272 01:13:18,437 --> 01:13:21,005 and they said, "Now you can have your autograph." 1273 01:13:25,662 --> 01:13:27,838 I mean I d-- I don't' wake up screaming 1274 01:13:27,925 --> 01:13:29,056 or anything like that, 1275 01:13:29,143 --> 01:13:31,319 but, uh, yeah it's-- it's-- uh, 1276 01:13:31,407 --> 01:13:34,366 those images will-- will never leave my brain. 1277 01:13:39,327 --> 01:13:40,720 These regimes, 1278 01:13:40,807 --> 01:13:42,461 they tried to put their best foot forward 1279 01:13:42,548 --> 01:13:44,420 when visitors came. 1280 01:13:44,507 --> 01:13:45,769 When they allowed people in. 1281 01:13:46,857 --> 01:13:50,338 That night, the regime took the mask off, 1282 01:13:50,426 --> 01:13:52,732 and so the band saw the reality 1283 01:13:52,819 --> 01:13:55,387 of-- of life in-- in Ceausescu's Romania. 1284 01:14:05,571 --> 01:14:08,269 "Mr. Ted Arthur from the State Department, 1285 01:14:08,356 --> 01:14:11,882 whose activity has been under observation of the security, 1286 01:14:11,969 --> 01:14:14,580 told me about the regret the State Department has 1287 01:14:14,667 --> 01:14:16,147 regarding the behavior 1288 01:14:16,234 --> 01:14:18,149 of the band Blood, Sweat & Tears. 1289 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,632 The BS&T documentary crew shot several sequences 1290 01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:24,634 whose inclusion in finished film 1291 01:14:24,721 --> 01:14:26,636 would be most unfortunate 1292 01:14:26,723 --> 01:14:28,986 from viewpoint of embassy's relations 1293 01:14:29,073 --> 01:14:32,424 with Romanian authorities and institutions." 1294 01:14:32,511 --> 01:14:34,600 After all of that excitement, 1295 01:14:34,687 --> 01:14:38,386 we got the word that the government intended 1296 01:14:38,474 --> 01:14:41,912 to take the exposed film and destroy it. 1297 01:14:43,174 --> 01:14:45,698 They did not want it to leave Romania. 1298 01:14:46,917 --> 01:14:49,180 The guards at the airport 1299 01:14:49,267 --> 01:14:52,531 insisted on putting our film cans 1300 01:14:52,618 --> 01:14:54,838 through an X-ray machine, 1301 01:14:54,925 --> 01:14:57,318 knowing that the radiation 1302 01:14:57,405 --> 01:15:00,452 would erase all of the images on the film. 1303 01:15:02,019 --> 01:15:07,328 All the incredible moments we captured on film were gone, 1304 01:15:07,415 --> 01:15:10,506 or so the guards thought. 1305 01:15:10,593 --> 01:15:14,553 What they didn't know is that the night before, 1306 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,774 my crew didn't take the exposed film 1307 01:15:17,861 --> 01:15:20,690 to the hotel as usual. 1308 01:15:20,777 --> 01:15:23,823 The exposed film was taken to the US Embassy, 1309 01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:26,304 and I was told it was stored 1310 01:15:26,391 --> 01:15:27,697 in the kitchen in a refrigerator. 1311 01:15:27,784 --> 01:15:29,525 This is all now catering 1312 01:15:29,612 --> 01:15:31,831 to my idea of the James Bondstory. 1313 01:15:31,918 --> 01:15:33,529 The next morning, 1314 01:15:33,616 --> 01:15:36,706 in a scene right out of Mission: Impossible, 1315 01:15:36,793 --> 01:15:41,014 our crew removed the exposed film from cans 1316 01:15:41,101 --> 01:15:45,192 and replaced it with rolls of blank film stock. 1317 01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:48,935 The exposed film was then put into cans 1318 01:15:49,022 --> 01:15:51,329 where the blank stock had been. 1319 01:15:51,416 --> 01:15:53,940 The guys on the film crew 1320 01:15:54,027 --> 01:15:57,553 packed all the film in these cardboard boxes, 1321 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,207 just nondescript looking cardboard boxes, 1322 01:16:00,294 --> 01:16:03,036 got the to the airport, took them themselves 1323 01:16:03,123 --> 01:16:05,996 across the tarmac to the airplane 1324 01:16:06,083 --> 01:16:08,520 and, uh, some policemen sees them doing 1325 01:16:08,607 --> 01:16:10,391 and says, "What you got in there?" 1326 01:16:10,478 --> 01:16:12,002 And they said, "Seatbelts." 1327 01:16:16,136 --> 01:16:17,790 "Filmic coverage, 1328 01:16:17,877 --> 01:16:19,923 according to Escort Officer Martin Wenick, 1329 01:16:20,010 --> 01:16:24,101 was smuggled out of the country by unit cameraman Terry Gould. 1330 01:16:24,188 --> 01:16:27,234 Gould smuggled the film on the aircraft with other material 1331 01:16:27,321 --> 01:16:30,324 on the pretense that he was pilot of the plane. 1332 01:16:31,674 --> 01:16:33,980 Mr. Wenick strongly emphasized 1333 01:16:34,067 --> 01:16:36,504 the need of earliest review of all the footage, 1334 01:16:36,592 --> 01:16:38,332 with department exercising 1335 01:16:38,419 --> 01:16:40,552 its responsibility in seeing to it 1336 01:16:40,639 --> 01:16:43,947 that all objectionable sequences be removed 1337 01:16:44,034 --> 01:16:46,123 prior to review by the host countries. 1338 01:16:46,210 --> 01:16:48,473 If reason fails to persuade, 1339 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,562 Wenick suggested that we go so far 1340 01:16:50,649 --> 01:16:53,304 as to stop release of the film." 1341 01:16:57,308 --> 01:16:59,615 It was just very, very scary. 1342 01:16:59,702 --> 01:17:01,486 I mean it was like, when you feel good 1343 01:17:01,573 --> 01:17:05,316 to have-- to-- to-- to fly into, uh, Soviet Poland, 1344 01:17:05,403 --> 01:17:06,970 when it feels like you're free, 1345 01:17:07,057 --> 01:17:09,146 you know, Romania's gotta be pretty bad. 1346 01:17:27,947 --> 01:17:30,907 Warsaw was a great metropolitan city, 1347 01:17:30,994 --> 01:17:33,605 very hip, they had jazz music, 1348 01:17:33,692 --> 01:17:35,999 they had American records, they knew us by name. 1349 01:17:36,086 --> 01:17:38,088 It was like coming out of a dark tunnel 1350 01:17:38,175 --> 01:17:39,480 into the sunlight again. 1351 01:17:39,567 --> 01:17:42,353 ♪ Lucretia Mac Evil♪ 1352 01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:45,008 ♪ Little girl, What's your game?♪ 1353 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,753 ♪ Hard luck and trouble♪ 1354 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,929 ♪ Bound to be Your claim to fame♪ 1355 01:17:56,236 --> 01:18:00,763 ♪ Tail shakin', home breakin' Truckin' through town♪ 1356 01:18:00,850 --> 01:18:05,419 ♪ Each and every country Mother's son hangin' 'round♪ 1357 01:18:05,506 --> 01:18:08,771 ♪ Drive a young man insane♪ 1358 01:18:08,858 --> 01:18:11,077 ♪ Evil, that's your name♪ 1359 01:19:27,197 --> 01:19:28,502 I saw... 1360 01:19:29,721 --> 01:19:31,636 troops in trucks. 1361 01:19:34,204 --> 01:19:35,683 And I realized 1362 01:19:35,771 --> 01:19:38,295 they must have heard what happened in Romania, 1363 01:19:38,382 --> 01:19:40,558 and expected 1364 01:19:40,645 --> 01:19:42,647 the-- the same kind of riot, 1365 01:19:42,734 --> 01:19:45,171 and it was the exact opposite. 1366 01:19:45,258 --> 01:19:50,133 It was a beautiful audience, sophisticated, knowledgeable, 1367 01:19:50,220 --> 01:19:53,571 and whatever they were preparing for never happened. 1368 01:19:57,618 --> 01:19:59,403 ♪ Oh, Lucy♪ 1369 01:20:02,406 --> 01:20:04,800 The audiences were fantastic. 1370 01:20:04,887 --> 01:20:07,541 The reason is they were really starved for this kind of music. 1371 01:20:07,628 --> 01:20:09,369 They just really were warm to us. 1372 01:20:10,675 --> 01:20:13,069 ♪ Now you're gone, girl♪ 1373 01:20:13,156 --> 01:20:16,420 ♪ And the lamp post Call your name♪ 1374 01:20:16,507 --> 01:20:20,076 ♪ I can hear them♪ 1375 01:20:20,163 --> 01:20:23,035 ♪ In a spring of frozen rain♪ 1376 01:20:23,122 --> 01:20:26,386 ♪ Now you're gone, girl♪ 1377 01:20:26,473 --> 01:20:30,608 ♪ And the time's Slowed down till dawn♪ 1378 01:20:30,695 --> 01:20:33,959 ♪ It's a cold room♪ 1379 01:20:34,046 --> 01:20:40,966 ♪ And the walls ask Where you've gone♪ 1380 01:20:44,927 --> 01:20:47,320 Once again, welcome, and we're glad that you're here 1381 01:20:47,407 --> 01:20:48,800 and we hope you'll enjoy your stay. 1382 01:20:48,887 --> 01:20:51,020 Now time for questions. 1383 01:20:51,107 --> 01:20:52,673 Do you think that this trip 1384 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,937 will have any effect on you 1385 01:20:55,024 --> 01:20:56,547 after you return to America? 1386 01:20:56,634 --> 01:20:59,332 I came on this trip-- uh, 1387 01:20:59,419 --> 01:21:02,727 my personal feelings, my beliefs politically, 1388 01:21:02,814 --> 01:21:05,469 at home I felt were my priorities. 1389 01:21:05,556 --> 01:21:07,253 Rather than coming here, 1390 01:21:07,340 --> 01:21:09,690 I felt that we had things to do at home in America first 1391 01:21:09,777 --> 01:21:11,692 because of the struggle there. 1392 01:21:11,779 --> 01:21:14,782 And now I feel, since I can go home 1393 01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:17,133 and take care of the priorities, I'm glad I came. 1394 01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:19,875 I'm glad I did this. I'm glad this was the priority. 1395 01:21:19,962 --> 01:21:21,877 Because, uh, the first thing that I have to do 1396 01:21:21,964 --> 01:21:24,270 is to help keep my country together. 1397 01:21:24,357 --> 01:21:27,230 We have travelled in countries 1398 01:21:27,317 --> 01:21:28,579 where... 1399 01:21:30,146 --> 01:21:33,410 certain repressions are a way of life. 1400 01:21:33,497 --> 01:21:35,499 Where people don't enjoy... 1401 01:21:38,067 --> 01:21:41,070 the privilege of spontaneous outburst, 1402 01:21:41,157 --> 01:21:44,247 and I think it's given us all a new appreciation 1403 01:21:44,334 --> 01:21:47,076 of various freedoms that we took for granted. 1404 01:21:47,163 --> 01:21:49,295 I think all of the pain 1405 01:21:49,382 --> 01:21:51,950 and the-- the angst 1406 01:21:52,037 --> 01:21:54,866 of the last four days in Romania 1407 01:21:54,953 --> 01:21:57,086 kinda came out on stage that night. 1408 01:21:57,173 --> 01:22:00,785 We walked out on that big, beautiful concert bow in Warsaw, 1409 01:22:00,872 --> 01:22:03,483 one of the most beautiful concert theaters in the world, 1410 01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:05,094 packed to the rim, 1411 01:22:05,181 --> 01:22:07,400 and the band just exploded that night. 1412 01:22:07,487 --> 01:22:09,185 It was an amazing concert. 1413 01:22:09,272 --> 01:22:11,013 I can remember it to this day 1414 01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:13,015 as being one of the most remarkable concerts 1415 01:22:13,102 --> 01:22:14,190 we ever played. 1416 01:22:14,277 --> 01:22:15,321 We did, like, four encores. 1417 01:22:15,408 --> 01:22:17,019 We couldn't get off the stage. 1418 01:22:17,106 --> 01:22:18,716 They kept bringing us back and bringing us back. 1419 01:22:18,803 --> 01:22:21,110 ♪ Doing things For everybody else♪ 1420 01:22:21,197 --> 01:22:23,112 ♪ When I called out loud♪ 1421 01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:24,940 ♪ She answered from the crowd♪ 1422 01:22:25,027 --> 01:22:31,163 ♪ That she'd spend her life Upon the shelf♪ 1423 01:22:41,217 --> 01:22:42,870 And the most important thing is 1424 01:22:42,958 --> 01:22:45,308 that we made audiences happy over there. 1425 01:22:45,395 --> 01:22:48,789 Where they wouldn't have had that experience. 1426 01:22:48,876 --> 01:22:51,488 And that was something that I hadn't thought about at the beginning. 1427 01:22:51,575 --> 01:22:54,360 How happy these people would be, 1428 01:22:54,447 --> 01:22:56,145 and how appreciative they were. 1429 01:22:56,232 --> 01:22:58,625 And that was-- that-- I wanna underline that 1430 01:22:58,712 --> 01:23:00,149 because that was a great experience. 1431 01:23:06,764 --> 01:23:10,289 The State Department felt it got good value 1432 01:23:10,376 --> 01:23:13,031 out of Blood, Sweat & Tears. 1433 01:23:13,118 --> 01:23:15,077 They were worried about the problematic aspect, 1434 01:23:15,164 --> 01:23:17,296 things that might have gotten on film that shouldn't... 1435 01:23:18,254 --> 01:23:20,038 but on the balance, 1436 01:23:20,125 --> 01:23:21,474 they're pretty happy 1437 01:23:21,561 --> 01:23:23,128 with the work that's being accomplished 1438 01:23:23,215 --> 01:23:26,001 through these Blood, Sweat & Tears concerts. 1439 01:23:26,088 --> 01:23:27,785 It looks like rock and roll music 1440 01:23:27,872 --> 01:23:29,613 is getting into the Cold War. 1441 01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:31,658 The communists are letting the State Department 1442 01:23:31,745 --> 01:23:33,312 send American rock and roll groups 1443 01:23:33,399 --> 01:23:35,271 behind the Iron Curtain. 1444 01:23:35,358 --> 01:23:37,186 The first group to make that scene 1445 01:23:37,273 --> 01:23:41,277 just wound up a tour in Romania, Yugoslavia and Poland. 1446 01:23:41,364 --> 01:23:44,323 If there has to be a Cold War, this is the way to fight it. 1447 01:23:44,410 --> 01:23:47,500 Blood, Sweat & Tears. 1448 01:23:50,416 --> 01:23:52,679 I'll just introduce, um, everybody to you. 1449 01:23:52,766 --> 01:23:56,074 David Clayton-Thomas, Bobby Colomby and Steve Katz. 1450 01:23:56,161 --> 01:23:57,728 When we came back, 1451 01:23:57,815 --> 01:24:01,819 we were blindsided by a-- uh, a press conference. 1452 01:24:01,906 --> 01:24:03,908 What'd they tell you about America? 1453 01:24:03,995 --> 01:24:05,736 About inside the Iron Curtain? 1454 01:24:05,823 --> 01:24:07,694 To see what's happening over there, 1455 01:24:07,781 --> 01:24:09,566 it's very hard to describe it in a press conference. 1456 01:24:09,653 --> 01:24:12,003 It's very hard to see what these people are living through. 1457 01:24:12,090 --> 01:24:14,266 How does it make you feel about America now? 1458 01:24:14,353 --> 01:24:16,399 Uh, we were affected very deeply 1459 01:24:16,486 --> 01:24:17,748 as people over there. 1460 01:24:17,835 --> 01:24:19,793 We were very hung up 1461 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,144 in criticizing what's wrong in this country. 1462 01:24:22,231 --> 01:24:24,146 But you suddenly get a new perspective 1463 01:24:24,233 --> 01:24:26,931 when you see something that is so much more wrong. 1464 01:24:27,018 --> 01:24:29,412 We sat and-- and took questions, 1465 01:24:29,499 --> 01:24:31,327 which were pretty hostile, you know. 1466 01:24:31,414 --> 01:24:32,893 "Oh you're working for the government." 1467 01:24:32,980 --> 01:24:34,504 What made you decide to go? 1468 01:24:34,591 --> 01:24:36,723 What made me decide to go? 1469 01:24:36,810 --> 01:24:38,769 I decided to-- I decided to go 1470 01:24:38,856 --> 01:24:41,554 because I was a musician first rather than a politician. 1471 01:24:41,641 --> 01:24:43,339 You got the sense 1472 01:24:43,426 --> 01:24:46,168 that they were angry that we did this tour. 1473 01:24:46,255 --> 01:24:48,431 And you could feel it. 1474 01:24:48,518 --> 01:24:50,215 What's your response to the State Department-- 1475 01:24:50,302 --> 01:24:52,304 I just wanted to get that in. 1476 01:24:52,391 --> 01:24:54,437 The State Department, as we found out, you know, 1477 01:24:54,524 --> 01:24:56,526 we have a-- there's a tendency in this country to say 1478 01:24:56,613 --> 01:24:59,268 "people," "government," you know? 1479 01:24:59,355 --> 01:25:01,705 Well, government is a diverse and varied thing. 1480 01:25:01,792 --> 01:25:04,011 Did the State Department put any restrictions... 1481 01:25:04,099 --> 01:25:05,535 - None. - ...before you left? 1482 01:25:05,622 --> 01:25:07,232 Well, we went over there with the idea 1483 01:25:07,319 --> 01:25:10,540 of just how much so-called communist fascism 1484 01:25:10,627 --> 01:25:13,499 is American propaganda, and just how much of it isn't. 1485 01:25:13,586 --> 01:25:16,372 I found that the propaganda is pretty damn close to the truth. 1486 01:25:16,459 --> 01:25:17,590 It's scary. 1487 01:25:18,765 --> 01:25:21,159 I think we were all in shock, but I think... 1488 01:25:22,378 --> 01:25:23,770 I think we knew. 1489 01:25:23,857 --> 01:25:25,903 I think we knew at that point that, uh, 1490 01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:27,731 this had not gone well. 1491 01:25:27,818 --> 01:25:29,211 They're now ambassadors 1492 01:25:29,298 --> 01:25:31,865 of a more nuanced view of the Cold War. 1493 01:25:31,952 --> 01:25:35,826 Well, they didn't ask to be, they didn't expect to be, 1494 01:25:35,913 --> 01:25:38,611 and nobody wanted to listen to them when they came back. 1495 01:25:43,225 --> 01:25:45,836 Actually, I had completely forgotten about that story. 1496 01:25:45,923 --> 01:25:48,055 It was so smarmy a headline I said, 1497 01:25:48,143 --> 01:25:49,622 "Yeah, that sounds like me." 1498 01:25:49,709 --> 01:25:51,581 It was one of the first stories I did 1499 01:25:51,668 --> 01:25:54,105 when I started out at Rolling Stonemagazine, 1500 01:25:54,192 --> 01:25:57,108 and I started to specialize in covering the underground 1501 01:25:57,195 --> 01:25:59,632 and what we called it was a cultural revolution. 1502 01:25:59,719 --> 01:26:01,417 I was really young then, 1503 01:26:01,504 --> 01:26:04,159 and, of course, I was so egotistical. 1504 01:26:04,246 --> 01:26:07,031 This is from September 3rd, 1970... 1505 01:26:08,293 --> 01:26:12,819 and the headline is "Blood, Sweat & Tears Turned Backs On Communism." 1506 01:26:12,906 --> 01:26:16,040 "Just arrived from their recent State Department tour, 1507 01:26:16,127 --> 01:26:20,479 members of Blood, Sweat & Tears indicated at a press conference here 1508 01:26:20,566 --> 01:26:24,309 they were so overwhelmed by Communist police tactics, 1509 01:26:24,396 --> 01:26:26,616 that only a book and feature length film 1510 01:26:26,703 --> 01:26:28,879 could adequately express their shock. 1511 01:26:28,966 --> 01:26:31,229 'We went over there with the idea of just 1512 01:26:31,316 --> 01:26:33,971 how much so-called Communist fascism 1513 01:26:34,058 --> 01:26:35,581 is American propaganda' 1514 01:26:35,668 --> 01:26:37,279 said David Clayton-Thomas, 1515 01:26:37,366 --> 01:26:39,977 the group's pudgy-faced lead vocalist." 1516 01:26:40,064 --> 01:26:42,284 That was nasty. 1517 01:26:42,371 --> 01:26:45,809 "It soon became clear that the State Department got its money's worth." 1518 01:26:47,114 --> 01:26:49,247 Well, what do I take away from this? 1519 01:26:49,334 --> 01:26:51,597 That was a kind of a snotty story. 1520 01:26:51,684 --> 01:26:53,773 I probably took a little liberty with them, 1521 01:26:53,860 --> 01:26:56,428 '‘cause I didn't think they were part of the cultural revolution, 1522 01:26:56,515 --> 01:26:59,475 but I see things a lot differently now. 1523 01:26:59,562 --> 01:27:01,912 Let me just say this about the cultural revolution. 1524 01:27:01,999 --> 01:27:05,394 I mean some of us just became bigger assholes, 1525 01:27:05,481 --> 01:27:07,134 and I'm only speaking for myself. 1526 01:27:07,222 --> 01:27:09,833 Rolling Stone give you the impression 1527 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,097 that they've somehow become this strong anti-Communist. 1528 01:27:13,184 --> 01:27:16,231 So then people might have thought, "Well, they were brainwashed. 1529 01:27:16,318 --> 01:27:18,058 You see, they went on this tour 1530 01:27:18,145 --> 01:27:20,409 and the US government brainwashed them." 1531 01:27:20,496 --> 01:27:22,498 It just made them look uncool. 1532 01:27:22,585 --> 01:27:27,416 That's a worse crime than being a deviant or a heroin addict. 1533 01:27:27,503 --> 01:27:31,158 To be uncool is punishable by death in rock criticism. 1534 01:27:31,246 --> 01:27:33,857 I had not changed my position in terms of 1535 01:27:33,944 --> 01:27:36,076 how I felt about what our government was doing. 1536 01:27:36,163 --> 01:27:37,861 That-- I mean, that was still the same. 1537 01:27:37,948 --> 01:27:39,602 But as far as thinking, 1538 01:27:39,689 --> 01:27:43,258 "Maybe there's another system of government 1539 01:27:43,345 --> 01:27:46,217 that's, like, way better than our democracy. 1540 01:27:46,304 --> 01:27:48,350 Maybe it's really better." 1541 01:27:48,437 --> 01:27:50,787 It ain't. It really isn't. 1542 01:27:50,874 --> 01:27:54,486 "That a rock band would identify itself in any way 1543 01:27:54,573 --> 01:27:58,273 with the present administration suggested that commercial success 1544 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,363 had turned their heads in an unfortunate direction. 1545 01:28:01,450 --> 01:28:04,931 Somewhat awed to hear opinions that I might expect from, say, 1546 01:28:05,018 --> 01:28:07,325 a liberal Republican congressman, 1547 01:28:07,412 --> 01:28:09,849 coming from the members of a premiere rock group, 1548 01:28:09,936 --> 01:28:13,113 I suggest the possibility that Blood, Sweat & Tears 1549 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,681 may soon become identified in the underground 1550 01:28:15,768 --> 01:28:18,075 as the Fascist Rock Band." 1551 01:28:18,162 --> 01:28:20,469 I really think that, uh, the fact that-- 1552 01:28:20,556 --> 01:28:23,559 that the kids of today are looking to the pop stars 1553 01:28:23,646 --> 01:28:27,693 for a political, uh, concept is a very good idea, 1554 01:28:27,780 --> 01:28:30,870 because who else is more qualified than a pop star, 1555 01:28:30,957 --> 01:28:34,831 who-- who knows as much as he knows about politics. 1556 01:28:45,624 --> 01:28:48,410 One, two, three, four. 1557 01:28:48,497 --> 01:28:51,195 " by Blood, Sweat & Tears] 1558 01:29:03,076 --> 01:29:05,862 ♪ Hi-de-ho♪ 1559 01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:09,735 ♪ Hi-de-hi♪ 1560 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:16,612 ♪ Gonna get me A piece of the sky♪ 1561 01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:23,836 ♪ Gonna get me some Of that old sweet roll♪ 1562 01:29:23,923 --> 01:29:26,839 ♪ I'm singing Hi-de-hi-de-hi-de♪ 1563 01:29:26,926 --> 01:29:30,103 ♪ Hi-di-ho♪ 1564 01:29:30,930 --> 01:29:34,194 "Blood, Sweat & Tears made its first New York appearance 1565 01:29:34,281 --> 01:29:37,459 since returning from Eastern Europe at Madison Square Garden 1566 01:29:37,546 --> 01:29:40,070 Saturday night, July 25. 1567 01:29:40,157 --> 01:29:43,421 Approximately 15,000 persons attended the concert 1568 01:29:43,508 --> 01:29:46,293 and cheered the group to two encores. 1569 01:29:46,381 --> 01:29:50,341 Outside the Garden, Abbie Hoffman and the Yippies were picketing the concert." 1570 01:29:50,428 --> 01:29:54,432 Abbie Hoffman was the most prominent member of the Yippies. 1571 01:29:54,519 --> 01:29:58,175 They were part of the broad coalition 1572 01:29:58,262 --> 01:30:00,307 of antiwar demonstrators. 1573 01:30:00,395 --> 01:30:04,703 Their approach to demonstration was political theater. 1574 01:30:04,790 --> 01:30:07,489 Abbie Hoffman knew how to take a picture. 1575 01:30:07,576 --> 01:30:10,448 He knew how to-- Think of him this way. 1576 01:30:10,535 --> 01:30:13,538 He's an Instagram artist before Instagram. 1577 01:30:13,625 --> 01:30:16,149 You know, he saw the concert by Blood, Sweat & Tears 1578 01:30:16,236 --> 01:30:19,239 was the moment to get coverage, 1579 01:30:19,326 --> 01:30:21,720 and get attention for what he believed in and for himself. 1580 01:30:21,807 --> 01:30:24,419 And so you have basically musical artists 1581 01:30:24,506 --> 01:30:26,725 being confronted by a performance political artist. 1582 01:30:28,161 --> 01:30:29,424 Oh, my God. 1583 01:30:29,511 --> 01:30:31,600 You've seen this part? 1584 01:30:31,687 --> 01:30:33,645 Here we go. Should I hold it longer for you? 1585 01:30:33,732 --> 01:30:35,168 Abbie was handing this out? 1586 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,650 "Recently, Blood, Sweat and Bullshit 1587 01:30:38,737 --> 01:30:41,740 went on a CIA-sponsored tour of Eastern Europe 1588 01:30:41,827 --> 01:30:44,700 to bring our rock revolution behind the Iron Curtain." 1589 01:30:44,787 --> 01:30:48,573 "The Central Intelligent Agency's so lame, 1590 01:30:48,660 --> 01:30:51,315 is to sabotage governments, 1591 01:30:51,402 --> 01:30:54,536 unfriendly or neutral to the..." 1592 01:30:54,623 --> 01:30:56,189 Hard to read this word. 1593 01:30:56,276 --> 01:30:59,192 "...Pigs..." capital letter, "...in Washington, 1594 01:30:59,279 --> 01:31:01,368 and to create false propaganda 1595 01:31:01,456 --> 01:31:06,286 about how happy everyone in the good ol' U.S. of A really is." 1596 01:31:06,373 --> 01:31:08,724 "For complicity in spreading such lies 1597 01:31:08,811 --> 01:31:12,118 and ignoring the obvious racism and imperialism 1598 01:31:12,205 --> 01:31:14,207 of the Pigs they have worked for, 1599 01:31:14,294 --> 01:31:17,080 Blood, Sweat and Bullshit is guilty of treason!!!" 1600 01:31:17,167 --> 01:31:18,777 "...is guilty of treason!!!" 1601 01:31:18,864 --> 01:31:22,564 In quotes, three exclamation points, "treason!!!" 1602 01:31:22,651 --> 01:31:25,610 "In the end, it looks like our blood, our sweat 1603 01:31:25,697 --> 01:31:27,873 and the CIA's bullshit. 1604 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,137 Resist, stop buying albums and attending concerts 1605 01:31:31,224 --> 01:31:32,748 of these Pig collaborators." 1606 01:31:32,835 --> 01:31:34,619 I think they have a weak case here. 1607 01:31:34,706 --> 01:31:37,230 I never thought Blood, Sweat & Tears as political in any way, 1608 01:31:37,317 --> 01:31:40,016 and I don't think they did anything other than go there. 1609 01:31:40,103 --> 01:31:42,975 They didn't hold pro-America, pro-Nixon ral-- 1610 01:31:43,062 --> 01:31:45,238 Did they? Were they Nixon supporters? 1611 01:31:45,325 --> 01:31:47,676 Well, this is bullshit. This is bullshit about bullshit. 1612 01:31:49,634 --> 01:31:51,723 ♪ Rolling up my spine♪ 1613 01:31:51,810 --> 01:31:54,683 ♪ Turning on the things that'd never been turned on♪ 1614 01:31:56,554 --> 01:31:57,947 ♪ Talk about the woman♪ 1615 01:31:59,775 --> 01:32:01,037 ♪ Good god♪ 1616 01:32:01,690 --> 01:32:03,474 Madison Square Garden. 1617 01:32:03,561 --> 01:32:05,868 We're playing "Something's Coming On," it goes like this. 1618 01:32:05,955 --> 01:32:07,696 ♪ Somethin' comin' on♪ 1619 01:32:10,742 --> 01:32:12,527 And builds and builds and builds. 1620 01:32:14,224 --> 01:32:15,791 And then Freddy starts playing. 1621 01:32:17,619 --> 01:32:18,750 I hear... 1622 01:32:21,144 --> 01:32:23,886 Someone throws something from the audience, 1623 01:32:23,973 --> 01:32:26,192 it hits my right cymbal... 1624 01:32:27,846 --> 01:32:32,242 and something lands on my floor tom-tom, some debris. 1625 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,595 And it's horse shit. It's horse shit! 1626 01:32:37,682 --> 01:32:41,120 Someone threw a bag of horse shit. 1627 01:32:41,207 --> 01:32:43,819 Freddy's playing his alto solo and looks at me, 1628 01:32:43,906 --> 01:32:45,647 I'm going, "There's shit on my drum. 1629 01:32:45,734 --> 01:32:47,300 There's shit on my-- Just play." 1630 01:32:58,007 --> 01:33:00,052 They were quickly ushered out, 1631 01:33:00,139 --> 01:33:02,577 but it left a... ...pardon me, a smell. 1632 01:33:04,230 --> 01:33:06,319 It-- it tainted that concert. 1633 01:33:06,406 --> 01:33:08,583 And I think the realization 1634 01:33:08,670 --> 01:33:11,542 that we were in a world of trouble at that point, 1635 01:33:11,629 --> 01:33:15,894 that going to Eastern Europe was not gonna be forgiven 1636 01:33:15,981 --> 01:33:17,330 by the counterculture. 1637 01:33:24,381 --> 01:33:26,122 There was a definite 1638 01:33:26,209 --> 01:33:30,561 anti-Blood, Sweat & Tears sentiment that was palpable. 1639 01:33:30,648 --> 01:33:33,259 Usually when you're attacked 1640 01:33:33,346 --> 01:33:35,348 for your political point of view, 1641 01:33:35,435 --> 01:33:37,524 it's from the left or the right. 1642 01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:40,658 We, on the other hand, were attacked by both sides. 1643 01:33:40,745 --> 01:33:43,182 The right was angry with us, 1644 01:33:43,269 --> 01:33:46,577 because we were anti-Vietnam, antigovernment, anti-Nixon, 1645 01:33:46,664 --> 01:33:49,058 but we were also attacked by the left, 1646 01:33:49,145 --> 01:33:52,235 because of the association with the State Department. 1647 01:33:52,322 --> 01:33:54,716 I felt cancelled, because people thought 1648 01:33:54,803 --> 01:33:56,456 we were something that we weren't. 1649 01:33:57,588 --> 01:33:59,938 It made me wanna retreat. 1650 01:34:00,025 --> 01:34:01,461 I was very-- 1651 01:34:02,593 --> 01:34:04,682 I was-- it-- it broke my heart, actually. 1652 01:34:05,770 --> 01:34:07,337 It was very, very sad. 1653 01:34:14,692 --> 01:34:16,389 "Mr. Speaker, 1654 01:34:16,476 --> 01:34:19,131 the over-burdened American taxpayer is dancing 1655 01:34:19,218 --> 01:34:22,918 to the acid rock tune of a $40,000 tab, 1656 01:34:23,005 --> 01:34:27,879 courtesy of the elite hierarchy of the exalted State Department. 1657 01:34:27,966 --> 01:34:30,621 The discotheque diplomats waved the baton of approval 1658 01:34:30,708 --> 01:34:33,537 on this latest cultural exchange program, 1659 01:34:33,624 --> 01:34:36,018 when it authorized a travel grant for the rock group 1660 01:34:36,105 --> 01:34:38,324 Blood, Sweat & Tears. 1661 01:34:38,411 --> 01:34:41,719 Singer David Clayton-Thomas, a Canadian citizen, 1662 01:34:41,806 --> 01:34:43,590 who has lived on the fat of our land 1663 01:34:43,678 --> 01:34:45,244 for seven of his 29 years, 1664 01:34:45,331 --> 01:34:47,507 is allowed much more freedom in his assaults 1665 01:34:47,594 --> 01:34:49,858 on 'Uncle Sugar Daddy' who is footing the bill. 1666 01:34:49,945 --> 01:34:52,164 Pointing to the peace symbol 1667 01:34:52,251 --> 01:34:54,297 imprinted on his purple sweatshirt, 1668 01:34:54,384 --> 01:34:56,647 he said at a State Department reception, quote, 1669 01:34:56,734 --> 01:34:58,736 'I don't happen to wear this by accident. 1670 01:34:58,823 --> 01:35:01,043 I wore it because I believe in it.' 1671 01:35:01,130 --> 01:35:03,436 He went on to say the group doesn't stand 1672 01:35:03,523 --> 01:35:05,482 for the things Mr. Nixon is doing. 1673 01:35:05,569 --> 01:35:08,006 There is no excuse for this country 1674 01:35:08,093 --> 01:35:11,836 subsidizing the travel and derisive drivel of an alien 1675 01:35:11,923 --> 01:35:15,971 who was selected to represent the United States ostentatiously 1676 01:35:16,058 --> 01:35:18,016 in three captive nations." 1677 01:35:18,103 --> 01:35:20,889 "It is not sweet music to the American people to hear 1678 01:35:20,976 --> 01:35:23,718 the harmony of discord being played at their expense." 1679 01:35:26,111 --> 01:35:29,332 - I guess that's it. - So, how do you react to that? 1680 01:35:29,419 --> 01:35:30,637 Oh, I think he's right. 1681 01:35:32,683 --> 01:35:34,293 No, of course, it's ridiculous. 1682 01:35:34,380 --> 01:35:37,819 Oh, I'm not gonna give it any kind of reaction whatsoever. 1683 01:35:37,906 --> 01:35:39,690 It's drivel. 1684 01:35:39,777 --> 01:35:42,171 We can hear that every day on television today, can't we? 1685 01:35:42,258 --> 01:35:45,217 Silly, partisan baloney like that. 1686 01:35:45,304 --> 01:35:49,787 Congressman Scherle's complaint found its way to Henry Kissinger 1687 01:35:49,874 --> 01:35:51,746 who was the National Security Advisor. 1688 01:35:51,833 --> 01:35:53,748 Kissinger's people did a little investigation, 1689 01:35:53,835 --> 01:35:56,489 and Kissinger wrote Nixon a memo. 1690 01:35:57,839 --> 01:35:59,797 "The tour through communist countries 1691 01:35:59,884 --> 01:36:01,625 apparently had a constructive impact 1692 01:36:01,712 --> 01:36:04,019 on the members of the band, who, on return, 1693 01:36:04,106 --> 01:36:07,805 reflected more balanced perspectives about the United States. 1694 01:36:07,892 --> 01:36:10,068 Their new outlook was picked up in the press 1695 01:36:10,155 --> 01:36:13,855 and as a result, the radical left, led by Mr. Abbie Hoffman, 1696 01:36:13,942 --> 01:36:16,292 picketed the band's concert in New York, 1697 01:36:16,379 --> 01:36:20,122 charging that the band had become 'Pig Collaborators.'" 1698 01:36:20,209 --> 01:36:23,516 Nixon not only read the memo, 1699 01:36:23,603 --> 01:36:25,431 but had some ideas about what to do 1700 01:36:25,518 --> 01:36:27,172 with the information contained in the memo, 1701 01:36:27,259 --> 01:36:30,262 and he wrote out instructions at the bottom. 1702 01:36:30,349 --> 01:36:32,134 "K-- it might be worthwhile 1703 01:36:32,221 --> 01:36:34,832 to get the quotes on page 3 broadly circulated. 1704 01:36:34,919 --> 01:36:37,139 If a way can be found in addition 1705 01:36:37,226 --> 01:36:39,576 to theReader's Digest coverage. 1706 01:36:39,663 --> 01:36:41,752 Buchanan or Huebner might have an idea 1707 01:36:41,839 --> 01:36:44,276 as to how youth leaders might get the message." 1708 01:36:44,363 --> 01:36:46,452 This was a lose-lose situation with the band. 1709 01:36:46,539 --> 01:36:49,064 The band had come back with a different perspective 1710 01:36:49,151 --> 01:36:53,068 and people were saying, "We worried all along you'd become tools of Nixon, 1711 01:36:53,155 --> 01:36:56,593 and look what just happened-- you became tools of Nixon." 1712 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,117 We had no choice, we had to do this tour. 1713 01:37:00,379 --> 01:37:01,859 We were blackmailed. 1714 01:37:01,946 --> 01:37:04,166 It was extortion, was what it was, yeah, yeah. 1715 01:37:04,253 --> 01:37:07,212 And nobody-- nobody's known about this for years. 1716 01:37:10,694 --> 01:37:14,829 We were told that David was gonna be losing his green card, 1717 01:37:14,916 --> 01:37:17,353 because he had, like, a run-in with the police, 1718 01:37:17,440 --> 01:37:20,486 or a-- a record in Canada years before, 1719 01:37:20,573 --> 01:37:23,359 and they were using that as an excuse to kick him out. 1720 01:37:24,621 --> 01:37:26,579 I had a very troubled childhood. 1721 01:37:26,666 --> 01:37:30,279 Spent most of my teen years as a guest of the government, 1722 01:37:32,020 --> 01:37:34,109 and that's haunted me ever since. 1723 01:37:35,675 --> 01:37:39,636 So, apparently, Larry Goldblatt had figured out a way, 1724 01:37:39,723 --> 01:37:42,726 being Larry, to get his green card back. 1725 01:37:42,813 --> 01:37:44,467 Larry had this idea, 1726 01:37:44,554 --> 01:37:46,904 that was to go to the State Department 1727 01:37:46,991 --> 01:37:52,170 and offer the band in a cultural exchange in some way. 1728 01:37:52,257 --> 01:37:54,390 It was definitely a quid pro quo... 1729 01:37:55,565 --> 01:37:58,568 to help David stay in the country. 1730 01:37:58,655 --> 01:37:59,743 And it worked. 1731 01:38:05,140 --> 01:38:06,706 I was just against doing the whole thing, 1732 01:38:06,793 --> 01:38:09,013 but I would have had to leave the band. 1733 01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:12,408 So we had to back David. 1734 01:38:12,495 --> 01:38:17,021 I'm really sorry that my past 1735 01:38:17,108 --> 01:38:19,197 had brought these problems to the band. 1736 01:38:19,284 --> 01:38:20,982 I've always regretted it. 1737 01:38:22,331 --> 01:38:24,463 Probably should have listened to Steve 1738 01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:27,597 and not done that Eastern European tour, because it did hurt us. 1739 01:38:27,684 --> 01:38:29,251 It hurt us badly. 1740 01:38:29,338 --> 01:38:31,775 I didn't realize how much our fanbase was rooted 1741 01:38:31,862 --> 01:38:34,647 in that counterculture revolution. 1742 01:38:34,734 --> 01:38:37,824 On the other hand, if I didn't, I'd have probably been deported 1743 01:38:37,912 --> 01:38:40,871 and there wouldn't have been a Blood, Sweat & Tears, so... 1744 01:39:03,763 --> 01:39:06,244 ♪ Just yesterday morning♪ 1745 01:39:06,331 --> 01:39:10,379 ♪ They let me know You were gone♪ 1746 01:39:10,466 --> 01:39:14,339 Flying back, I thought about that whole experience. 1747 01:39:14,426 --> 01:39:16,472 How glorious it was. 1748 01:39:16,559 --> 01:39:19,649 When we got back to Los Angeles... 1749 01:39:20,998 --> 01:39:23,566 I actually sat with my editor, 1750 01:39:23,653 --> 01:39:27,309 and we did, uh, like a rough version 1751 01:39:27,396 --> 01:39:30,007 in a relatively short period of time. 1752 01:39:30,921 --> 01:39:34,359 ♪ I've seen fire And I've seen rain♪ 1753 01:39:34,446 --> 01:39:36,622 "Dear Mark. 1754 01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:39,190 I was happy to have your confirmation today on the phone. 1755 01:39:39,277 --> 01:39:41,845 That you will do everything possible to ensure 1756 01:39:41,932 --> 01:39:45,414 that the sequences showing militiamen in Romania and Poland, 1757 01:39:45,501 --> 01:39:47,590 will not be used in the film." 1758 01:39:47,677 --> 01:39:50,723 "The initial review in November, 1970, 1759 01:39:50,810 --> 01:39:54,423 of the film in rough edit form, two and a half hours in length, 1760 01:39:54,510 --> 01:39:58,514 by Department and USIA officers was disappointing 1761 01:39:58,601 --> 01:40:00,995 and recommendations for the purpose of achieving 1762 01:40:01,082 --> 01:40:04,868 a balanced and good film were forwarded to Mr. Klein." 1763 01:40:06,174 --> 01:40:08,959 The producer was in a position 1764 01:40:09,046 --> 01:40:12,919 that he had to satisfy the State Department. 1765 01:40:14,008 --> 01:40:17,750 The State Department said, "We really want a one-hour film 1766 01:40:17,837 --> 01:40:20,318 we can show here in the States, 1767 01:40:20,405 --> 01:40:23,191 and also in Eastern Europe 1768 01:40:23,278 --> 01:40:26,411 to fortify the link 1769 01:40:26,498 --> 01:40:29,806 that was growing between the east countries 1770 01:40:29,893 --> 01:40:31,590 and the west. 1771 01:40:31,677 --> 01:40:33,375 We started working on it, 1772 01:40:33,462 --> 01:40:36,378 and I didn't like at all what was happening to it. 1773 01:40:36,465 --> 01:40:38,858 It was turning into a travel log. 1774 01:40:40,077 --> 01:40:42,123 And not a very good travel log. 1775 01:40:42,210 --> 01:40:45,082 The State Department had the reins. 1776 01:40:45,169 --> 01:40:47,650 Definitely had the reins. 1777 01:40:48,651 --> 01:40:50,740 They really ran 1778 01:40:50,827 --> 01:40:53,003 the making of the film. 1779 01:40:53,090 --> 01:40:54,570 I couldn't stand it 1780 01:40:54,657 --> 01:40:56,354 because it wasn't anything 1781 01:40:56,441 --> 01:40:58,748 what I had envisioned. 1782 01:40:58,835 --> 01:41:00,924 When I saw the finished film... 1783 01:41:03,927 --> 01:41:05,842 I was personally heartbroken. 1784 01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,455 I didn't show it, but I was. 1785 01:41:10,542 --> 01:41:14,503 I was also quite angry that all of this film that... 1786 01:41:15,678 --> 01:41:18,376 we had all worked so hard to get, 1787 01:41:18,463 --> 01:41:20,857 wasn't being represented on the screen. 1788 01:41:23,077 --> 01:41:24,078 Hmm. 1789 01:41:25,688 --> 01:41:28,952 As far as it not coming out, never heard anything. 1790 01:41:29,039 --> 01:41:32,695 Got me. It just kind of got shelved. 1791 01:41:32,782 --> 01:41:35,132 So, the independent film company 1792 01:41:35,219 --> 01:41:38,309 shot 65 hours of footage. 1793 01:41:38,396 --> 01:41:42,008 Where it went, I have no idea. 1794 01:41:42,096 --> 01:41:43,836 No one knows where it is. 1795 01:41:43,923 --> 01:41:46,274 The State Department had the final say 1796 01:41:46,361 --> 01:41:49,799 as to the release and distribution. 1797 01:41:49,886 --> 01:41:51,192 The fact that 1798 01:41:51,279 --> 01:41:55,065 it would reflect poorly on Romania, 1799 01:41:55,152 --> 01:41:58,373 on a relationship with that country, 1800 01:41:58,460 --> 01:41:59,939 you would make sense 1801 01:42:00,026 --> 01:42:02,638 for the Department of State to say, 1802 01:42:02,725 --> 01:42:05,336 "Just stick it in a drawer, 1803 01:42:05,423 --> 01:42:06,772 and let it cool off." 1804 01:42:06,859 --> 01:42:09,210 Maybe the film 1805 01:42:09,297 --> 01:42:11,647 was viewed as threatening 1806 01:42:11,734 --> 01:42:14,824 to détente with Romania, and... 1807 01:42:16,130 --> 01:42:17,609 someone got to someone. 1808 01:42:17,696 --> 01:42:20,351 There are a lot of people who had an interest 1809 01:42:20,438 --> 01:42:23,137 in that film never seeing the light of day. 1810 01:42:24,877 --> 01:42:27,271 My father, Mel Klein, was the executive producer 1811 01:42:27,358 --> 01:42:29,621 of the lost Blood, Sweat & Tears documentary. 1812 01:42:31,536 --> 01:42:32,842 It was 50 years ago, 1813 01:42:32,929 --> 01:42:35,975 but my recollection was that-- 1814 01:42:36,062 --> 01:42:38,891 and this is my mother's recollection also-- 1815 01:42:38,978 --> 01:42:41,590 is that the State Department 1816 01:42:41,677 --> 01:42:44,810 took all the film, all the audio, 1817 01:42:44,897 --> 01:42:47,422 took what they thought was everything, 1818 01:42:47,509 --> 01:42:49,511 um, and that was that. 1819 01:42:52,296 --> 01:42:53,863 But what's left is one hour. 1820 01:42:54,733 --> 01:42:57,301 One hour that was edited for television 1821 01:42:57,388 --> 01:42:59,608 that was never shown at all, 1822 01:42:59,695 --> 01:43:03,089 and was discovered while you guys were making this film. 1823 01:43:17,713 --> 01:43:20,237 ♪ What goes up♪ 1824 01:43:20,324 --> 01:43:22,935 ♪ Must come down♪ 1825 01:43:23,022 --> 01:43:27,113 "What goes up must come down." They went up and they came down. 1826 01:43:27,201 --> 01:43:30,726 It's a shame, because the music is great, 1827 01:43:30,813 --> 01:43:33,424 but it's more a moment in time than an institution. 1828 01:43:33,511 --> 01:43:35,252 ♪ Catch a painted pony♪ 1829 01:43:35,339 --> 01:43:38,299 ♪ Let the spinnin' wheel spin♪ 1830 01:43:38,386 --> 01:43:40,388 ♪ You got no money♪ 1831 01:43:40,475 --> 01:43:43,042 ♪ And you got no home♪ 1832 01:43:44,087 --> 01:43:48,178 ♪ Spinnin' wheel Spinnin' all alone♪ 1833 01:43:48,265 --> 01:43:50,528 ♪ Hey, you're talkin' 'Bout your troubles♪ 1834 01:43:50,615 --> 01:43:53,531 ♪ And you never, never learn♪ 1835 01:43:53,618 --> 01:43:55,490 ♪ Catch a painted pony♪ 1836 01:43:55,577 --> 01:43:58,449 ♪ Let the spinnin' wheel turn♪ 1837 01:43:58,536 --> 01:44:01,539 This was such a promising musical group, 1838 01:44:01,626 --> 01:44:05,717 and to have the innovativeness of the musicianship 1839 01:44:05,804 --> 01:44:09,068 with the distinctive vocal and energy. 1840 01:44:09,155 --> 01:44:13,203 If they had more hit songs and they stayed together, 1841 01:44:13,290 --> 01:44:16,206 they could have had enduring success. 1842 01:44:16,293 --> 01:44:18,948 I mean, the combination of hits 1843 01:44:19,035 --> 01:44:21,211 that they had on the second album 1844 01:44:21,298 --> 01:44:24,301 was so special and commanding. 1845 01:44:24,388 --> 01:44:27,783 You say, "Spinning Wheel," "You Made Me So Very Happy," 1846 01:44:27,870 --> 01:44:29,567 and "When I Die," 1847 01:44:29,654 --> 01:44:30,916 we can all sing it. 1848 01:44:38,184 --> 01:44:41,492 ♪ Someone is waiting♪ 1849 01:44:41,579 --> 01:44:43,668 ♪ Just for you♪ 1850 01:44:43,755 --> 01:44:47,672 ♪ Spinnin' wheel, Spinnin' true♪ 1851 01:44:48,717 --> 01:44:53,461 ♪ Drop all your troubles By the riverside♪ 1852 01:44:53,548 --> 01:44:55,245 ♪ Catch a painted pony♪ 1853 01:44:55,332 --> 01:44:58,509 ♪ On the spinnin' wheel ride♪ 1854 01:44:59,554 --> 01:45:01,338 There's a loaded question. 1855 01:45:05,168 --> 01:45:08,432 Well, I don't want it to be remembered as sellouts. 1856 01:45:08,519 --> 01:45:10,956 We never were. Okay? 1857 01:45:11,043 --> 01:45:12,610 We did what we had to do. 1858 01:45:13,959 --> 01:45:15,744 Aside from the fact that we got sucked 1859 01:45:15,831 --> 01:45:17,920 into this political maelstrom... 1860 01:45:18,921 --> 01:45:22,011 the music was what it was all about in that band. 1861 01:45:24,970 --> 01:45:27,016 ♪ You made me♪ 1862 01:45:27,103 --> 01:45:30,454 ♪ So very happy♪ 1863 01:45:31,455 --> 01:45:33,849 ♪ You made me so♪ 1864 01:45:33,936 --> 01:45:36,373 ♪ So very happy, baby♪ 1865 01:45:36,460 --> 01:45:38,854 ♪ I'm so glad♪ 1866 01:45:38,941 --> 01:45:41,117 ♪ You came♪ 1867 01:45:43,641 --> 01:45:50,605 ♪ Into my life♪ 1868 01:46:00,484 --> 01:46:03,444 The memory that I hold closest 1869 01:46:03,531 --> 01:46:06,751 is the band itself... 1870 01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:11,060 playing so beautifully. 1871 01:46:11,147 --> 01:46:13,192 The music so joyful. 1872 01:46:13,279 --> 01:46:16,326 The players so good. 1873 01:46:18,850 --> 01:46:20,374 No matter where we were... 1874 01:46:21,766 --> 01:46:24,247 no matter what concert it was... 1875 01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:28,164 that it was absolutely thrilling. 1876 01:46:30,035 --> 01:46:33,430 ♪ Whoa♪ 1877 01:46:36,651 --> 01:46:40,742 What happened to Blood, Sweat & Tears, it just wasn't fair. 1878 01:46:41,786 --> 01:46:43,745 They really got screwed. 1879 01:46:45,877 --> 01:46:50,578 ♪ I just wanna thank you, girl♪ 1880 01:48:10,048 --> 01:48:15,314 ♪ Them that's got, shall get♪ 1881 01:48:19,580 --> 01:48:22,408 ♪ Them that's not, shall lose♪ 1882 01:48:25,803 --> 01:48:29,372 ♪ So the Bible says♪ 1883 01:48:31,287 --> 01:48:35,944 ♪ And it still is news♪ 1884 01:48:38,163 --> 01:48:41,123 ♪ 'Cause mama may have♪ 1885 01:48:44,256 --> 01:48:47,651 ♪ And papa may have♪ 1886 01:48:49,871 --> 01:48:54,615 ♪ God bless the child, That's got his own♪ 1887 01:48:57,226 --> 01:49:00,664 ♪ That's got his own♪ 1888 01:49:10,761 --> 01:49:12,763 ♪ Money you got♪ 1889 01:49:14,460 --> 01:49:17,159 ♪ Lots of friends♪ 1890 01:49:18,987 --> 01:49:22,077 ♪ They're hangin' outside of your door♪ 1891 01:49:24,819 --> 01:49:27,735 ♪ But when the money's gone♪ 1892 01:49:27,822 --> 01:49:32,914 ♪ And all that spendin' ends♪ 1893 01:49:33,001 --> 01:49:38,267 ♪ They won't be 'round anymore♪ 1894 01:49:39,181 --> 01:49:41,705 ♪ More♪ 1895 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:47,493 ♪ Oh, and rich relations♪ 1896 01:49:47,581 --> 01:49:49,931 ♪ May give you♪ 1897 01:49:51,759 --> 01:49:54,805 ♪ A crust of bread and such♪ 1898 01:49:57,765 --> 01:50:01,203 ♪ You can help yourself♪ 1899 01:50:03,379 --> 01:50:08,689 ♪ But don't take too much♪ 1900 01:50:10,038 --> 01:50:13,041 ♪ 'Cause mama may have♪ 1901 01:50:16,044 --> 01:50:19,003 ♪ And papa may have♪ 1902 01:50:21,310 --> 01:50:26,315 ♪ But God bless the child That's got his own♪ 1903 01:50:26,402 --> 01:50:29,666 ♪ Oh, Lord♪ 1904 01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:38,457 ♪ That's got his own♪ 1905 01:50:59,696 --> 01:51:03,831 ♪ Oh, every child♪ 1906 01:51:03,918 --> 01:51:07,182 ♪ In this world♪ 1907 01:51:07,269 --> 01:51:11,839 ♪ Got to have his own♪ 147586

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