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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,434 --> 00:00:19,437 [โ™ชโ™ชโ™ช] 2 00:00:29,697 --> 00:00:32,408 [suspenseful music] 3 00:00:50,634 --> 00:00:53,637 [tense music] 4 00:01:10,362 --> 00:01:11,572 [gunshot] 5 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:17,411 [dramatic music] 6 00:01:36,889 --> 00:01:38,474 [Richard Schweiker] This report documents 7 00:01:38,557 --> 00:01:41,936 the failures of the US intelligence establishment 8 00:01:42,019 --> 00:01:43,354 in their investigation 9 00:01:43,437 --> 00:01:45,397 of President Kennedy's assassination, 10 00:01:45,815 --> 00:01:48,359 and their cover up to the Warren Commission. 11 00:01:49,026 --> 00:01:52,696 During the 1975 Church Committee investigation 12 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:55,032 of US intelligence activities, 13 00:01:55,282 --> 00:01:57,368 Committee Member Richard Schweiker, 14 00:01:57,451 --> 00:02:01,497 in an interview at the time, remarked about Oswald that 15 00:02:01,580 --> 00:02:03,499 "everywhere you looked with him, 16 00:02:03,582 --> 00:02:05,918 there are fingerprints of intelligence." 17 00:02:07,086 --> 00:02:10,631 Those fingerprints extended back to 1959 18 00:02:10,714 --> 00:02:13,509 when Oswald defected to the Soviet Union. 19 00:02:14,301 --> 00:02:17,680 State Department intelligence officer, Otto Otepka, 20 00:02:17,972 --> 00:02:21,183 had noted the marked increase in the number of Americans 21 00:02:21,267 --> 00:02:23,394 defecting to Russia at that time. 22 00:02:23,853 --> 00:02:27,481 He also noted that some of them came from the military. 23 00:02:27,565 --> 00:02:30,651 He therefore suspected that some of these men 24 00:02:30,734 --> 00:02:32,695 were fake defectors. 25 00:02:32,778 --> 00:02:34,989 They had been assigned by the CIA 26 00:02:35,072 --> 00:02:38,242 to garner intelligence behind the Iron Curtain. 27 00:02:38,701 --> 00:02:43,080 He sent a letter to the CIA asking which ones were real, 28 00:02:43,414 --> 00:02:45,749 and which were their agents. 29 00:02:46,208 --> 00:02:47,751 Oswald was one of the names 30 00:02:48,335 --> 00:02:50,421 on Otepka's list. 31 00:02:50,504 --> 00:02:53,757 Otepka's request was forwarded to James Angleton, 32 00:02:53,924 --> 00:02:55,593 Chief of Counterintelligence. 33 00:02:55,843 --> 00:02:59,471 He instructed that there be no research done on Oswald, 34 00:02:59,722 --> 00:03:03,475 but Otepka continued to work on the Oswald case. 35 00:03:03,559 --> 00:03:05,060 [Lisa Pease] The only thing of significance 36 00:03:05,144 --> 00:03:06,729 was that he was really interested 37 00:03:06,812 --> 00:03:10,190 in Lee Harvey Oswald before the assassination. 38 00:03:10,733 --> 00:03:15,195 And he actually had a study of these defectors in his safe. 39 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:18,699 Well, things got worse. His office was not only bugged, 40 00:03:18,782 --> 00:03:21,285 they planted people in his office, to spy on him. 41 00:03:21,368 --> 00:03:23,913 They started putting confidential documents 42 00:03:23,996 --> 00:03:26,248 in his burn bag, and then trying to blame him 43 00:03:26,332 --> 00:03:28,459 and saying he's burning confidential documents. 44 00:03:28,542 --> 00:03:30,753 The guy's gone, you know, wacko. 45 00:03:31,378 --> 00:03:34,173 [Whoopi Goldberg] As a result, he was formally removed 46 00:03:34,256 --> 00:03:38,469 from the State Department on November the 5th, 1963, 47 00:03:38,552 --> 00:03:41,555 just 17 days before the assassination. 48 00:03:41,639 --> 00:03:45,559 So you will not see Otepka's name in the Warren Report, 49 00:03:45,643 --> 00:03:49,188 and he was not called as a witness before that body. 50 00:03:49,271 --> 00:03:53,442 And in fact, James Angleton, the man who had access 51 00:03:53,525 --> 00:03:56,278 to all the Oswald files at the CIA, 52 00:03:56,862 --> 00:03:59,239 coordinated the agency's response 53 00:03:59,531 --> 00:04:01,992 to the Warren Commission's requests. 54 00:04:03,202 --> 00:04:04,870 -Can you describe the setting up 55 00:04:05,371 --> 00:04:08,290 of the Oswald file at the CIA? 56 00:04:08,374 --> 00:04:11,752 -It could be opened after a few documents 57 00:04:11,835 --> 00:04:15,464 arrived at the CIA from other intelligence agencies, 58 00:04:15,547 --> 00:04:18,676 and that would be enough to trigger the opening 59 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:21,720 of a 201 file. Sometimes they call it a personality file. 60 00:04:21,804 --> 00:04:23,180 And another thing that could trigger 61 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:26,350 the opening of a 201 file would be an American citizen 62 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:28,352 defecting to a communist bloc country. 63 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:29,853 Well, the interesting thing is, 64 00:04:29,937 --> 00:04:32,064 Oswald met both of those criteria 65 00:04:32,147 --> 00:04:34,525 within nine days of his defection. 66 00:04:34,608 --> 00:04:38,570 And they didn't open a 201 file on him for 13 or 14 months. 67 00:04:39,113 --> 00:04:40,948 Immediately after the defection, 68 00:04:41,031 --> 00:04:43,492 Oswald's threat to commit an act of espionage, 69 00:04:43,575 --> 00:04:44,535 which his words were 70 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:47,371 "something special about my Marine Corps experience- 71 00:04:47,454 --> 00:04:49,123 which could only be 72 00:04:49,206 --> 00:04:51,333 the U-2, which is a program he'd worked on, 73 00:04:51,417 --> 00:04:57,089 a very secret CIA program-- that threat caused him to be put 74 00:04:57,172 --> 00:05:01,510 on the mail-intercept program and not opening a 201, 75 00:05:01,593 --> 00:05:02,720 at the same time, 76 00:05:02,803 --> 00:05:05,556 which is a very, very unusual combination, 77 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:10,102 and can only be explained by Oswald being part of 78 00:05:10,185 --> 00:05:14,481 a very covert, very sensitive ongoing operation, 79 00:05:14,565 --> 00:05:17,735 which was the hunt for a mole. 80 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:22,322 The history of the KGB and the CIA, their wars, uh, 81 00:05:22,406 --> 00:05:23,824 are not actually shooting each other 82 00:05:23,907 --> 00:05:26,535 so much as trying to penetrate each other. 83 00:05:26,702 --> 00:05:29,496 And so we-- we call them moles, or penetrations. 84 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:31,665 And so, it was an ongoing war; very, very, complicated. 85 00:05:31,749 --> 00:05:34,334 But that's what the mole hunters were doing for Angleton 86 00:05:34,418 --> 00:05:38,589 is looking for KGB moles inside of the CIA. 87 00:05:40,591 --> 00:05:44,845 So, 351 164 was the-- the file in the security office 88 00:05:44,928 --> 00:05:47,181 that was opened up right after his defection. 89 00:05:47,431 --> 00:05:50,559 And that was shared only with Angleton's mole hunting office, 90 00:05:50,642 --> 00:05:53,062 but not with any of the other components of the CIA. 91 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,522 The CIA and the FBI knew 92 00:05:55,606 --> 00:05:57,649 what the KGB would figure out very quickly 93 00:05:57,733 --> 00:06:00,152 was because of his assignment in Atsugi, Japan, 94 00:06:00,235 --> 00:06:03,197 where he tracked the super-secret U-2s at the time. 95 00:06:03,614 --> 00:06:06,158 So once you've established the lure, 96 00:06:06,617 --> 00:06:08,744 the place where you trap the animal 97 00:06:08,827 --> 00:06:11,914 isn't in the Moscow embassy, it's back at Langley 98 00:06:11,997 --> 00:06:13,332 where they thought the mole was. 99 00:06:13,415 --> 00:06:18,003 You want the KGB to contact their mole to ask questions. 100 00:06:18,295 --> 00:06:22,716 The moment that the mole asks a question, it's over. 101 00:06:23,258 --> 00:06:25,886 He or she is-- is exposed. 102 00:06:26,470 --> 00:06:29,848 This program, which did not work, years later, 103 00:06:29,932 --> 00:06:33,185 was put in front of probably our most celebrated 104 00:06:33,268 --> 00:06:35,187 and capable counterintelligence officer 105 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:36,814 in the history of the Central Intelligence Agency. 106 00:06:37,231 --> 00:06:38,816 His name was "Pete" Tennent Bagley. 107 00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:41,652 He began searching for the mole, 108 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:45,531 he was the key person leading it for years with Angleton. 109 00:06:45,906 --> 00:06:47,616 Well, after he was retired, 110 00:06:47,699 --> 00:06:50,035 he attended a meeting of former CIA officers 111 00:06:50,119 --> 00:06:51,245 down in the Carolinas. 112 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:53,539 And a British researcher happened to be down there, 113 00:06:53,622 --> 00:06:57,251 his name is Malcolm Blunt, and they met and got along well. 114 00:06:57,584 --> 00:06:59,628 And fortunately for history, 115 00:06:59,878 --> 00:07:02,923 a couple of years before Pete Bagley died, 116 00:07:03,006 --> 00:07:04,842 Malcolm sat down with him one day 117 00:07:04,925 --> 00:07:06,718 and showed him all those first documents 118 00:07:07,136 --> 00:07:09,138 that had come into the CIA on Oswald 119 00:07:09,221 --> 00:07:10,430 from the State Department 120 00:07:10,514 --> 00:07:13,600 and the Navy components at the embassy. 121 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:17,146 And Pete Bagley looks at Malcolm and he says, 122 00:07:17,229 --> 00:07:18,313 "Was he witting?" 123 00:07:18,564 --> 00:07:21,024 And Malcolm didn't really know how to respond. 124 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:24,361 And so Bagley raised his voice and insisted, 125 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:26,572 "He had to be witting! He had to be witting!" 126 00:07:26,864 --> 00:07:29,408 That was a telling, seminal moment 127 00:07:29,491 --> 00:07:31,451 in the history of CIA/KGB spy wars, 128 00:07:31,535 --> 00:07:33,495 in the history of Lee Harvey Oswald. 129 00:07:33,579 --> 00:07:37,166 His early use by the CIA was just a very, very important one 130 00:07:37,249 --> 00:07:40,169 because finally, after all these years, 131 00:07:40,252 --> 00:07:45,132 a very senior CIA officer had just told Malcolm and us 132 00:07:46,425 --> 00:07:49,595 that Lee Harvey Oswald was a witting false defector 133 00:07:49,678 --> 00:07:51,138 when he went to Moscow. 134 00:07:52,055 --> 00:07:54,099 [Goldberg] There was another unusual event 135 00:07:54,183 --> 00:07:57,394 that took place at the time of Oswald's defection-- 136 00:07:57,728 --> 00:08:00,814 the source of his income changed. 137 00:08:01,565 --> 00:08:04,067 -Oswald's last quarter of earnings 138 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:08,530 in the United States, before he defected to the Soviet Union, 139 00:08:09,615 --> 00:08:12,576 should have been paid by the United States Marine Corps. 140 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:13,744 And they weren't. 141 00:08:14,453 --> 00:08:17,164 Because we asked to see his Marine Corps earnings records 142 00:08:17,247 --> 00:08:18,624 that the Marine Corps deposits 143 00:08:18,707 --> 00:08:20,792 with the Social Security Administration. 144 00:08:21,877 --> 00:08:24,213 They did not pay him any money the last quarter 145 00:08:24,296 --> 00:08:26,798 he was in the United States before his defection. 146 00:08:26,882 --> 00:08:28,634 But no income from the Marine Corps, 147 00:08:28,842 --> 00:08:30,344 when he should have had. 148 00:08:30,928 --> 00:08:32,804 [Goldberg] Could this all be coincidence, 149 00:08:33,222 --> 00:08:35,849 or was Otto Otepka correct in suspecting 150 00:08:35,933 --> 00:08:39,436 Oswald was not a legitimate defector? 151 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:42,940 And is this why Angleton told his secretary 152 00:08:43,023 --> 00:08:46,485 to withhold information from Otepka? 153 00:08:46,568 --> 00:08:49,696 -The line that the CIA fed the Warren Commission, 154 00:08:49,780 --> 00:08:51,949 we didn't, really didn't know anything about this guy. 155 00:08:52,241 --> 00:08:55,160 We now know that that was complete nonsense. 156 00:08:55,369 --> 00:08:58,747 Oswald was a figure of intense interest 157 00:08:59,248 --> 00:09:01,500 for four years before the assassination, 158 00:09:01,667 --> 00:09:05,545 and a dozen senior CIA officers 159 00:09:05,754 --> 00:09:07,506 were very well acquainted with him. 160 00:09:07,589 --> 00:09:09,841 Everything he did, where he went, 161 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:12,344 what his politics were, his family life. 162 00:09:12,511 --> 00:09:16,223 I mean, remember, they were reading his mother's mail. 163 00:09:16,306 --> 00:09:18,684 That's how closely they were watching him, 164 00:09:18,767 --> 00:09:21,061 right up until Kennedy was killed. 165 00:09:21,228 --> 00:09:23,689 And then, Kennedy was killed, Oswald's arrested, 166 00:09:23,939 --> 00:09:27,234 and they say, ah, we know nothing about this man. 167 00:09:27,484 --> 00:09:31,113 [Goldberg] In fact, ARRB records show 168 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:35,867 that James Angleton and the CIA were receiving reports on Oswald 169 00:09:36,451 --> 00:09:39,204 up until one week before the assassination. 170 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,754 The Warren Commission pushed the idea 171 00:09:47,838 --> 00:09:50,048 that Oswald was a staunch communist, 172 00:09:50,424 --> 00:09:54,177 citing evidence of his distributing pro-Castro leaflets 173 00:09:54,428 --> 00:09:55,554 in New Orleans, 174 00:09:55,637 --> 00:10:00,058 and by his supposed defection to Russia in 1959. 175 00:10:00,183 --> 00:10:03,729 But records show that Oswald was working with 176 00:10:03,812 --> 00:10:06,189 fiercely anti-communist elements. 177 00:10:06,273 --> 00:10:09,985 And not surprisingly, many of these groups were known, 178 00:10:10,068 --> 00:10:14,197 and in some cases supported, by the US government. 179 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,867 In the spring of 1963, 180 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:21,371 Oswald moved from Dallas back to his hometown of New Orleans, 181 00:10:21,663 --> 00:10:24,458 where he began associating with men who, 182 00:10:24,541 --> 00:10:27,044 it would be revealed, had clear connections 183 00:10:27,461 --> 00:10:29,755 with these government efforts. 184 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:33,633 One of these men, David Ferrie, had been with Oswald 185 00:10:33,717 --> 00:10:37,054 in the Civil Air Patrol back in 1955, 186 00:10:37,179 --> 00:10:40,349 and was known as an extreme anti-communist. 187 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:44,353 He was also a trainer and a pilot for the CIA 188 00:10:44,436 --> 00:10:47,189 in its secret war against Cuba. 189 00:10:47,272 --> 00:10:51,234 Oswald was involved in these Cuban exile training activities 190 00:10:51,318 --> 00:10:52,527 with Ferrie. 191 00:10:54,446 --> 00:10:58,700 Another person Oswald was seen with in New Orleans in 1963 192 00:10:58,784 --> 00:11:00,118 was Guy Bannister. 193 00:11:00,535 --> 00:11:03,288 Bannister was an extreme right-winger 194 00:11:03,372 --> 00:11:06,375 who was close to the FBI, the CIA, 195 00:11:06,458 --> 00:11:08,752 and the American Nazi Party. 196 00:11:09,127 --> 00:11:12,089 Bannister gave Oswald his own office 197 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:14,466 at 544 Camp Street. 198 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:17,928 Oswald now began to use his office 199 00:11:18,011 --> 00:11:21,181 to print up and stamp pro-Castro literature, 200 00:11:21,598 --> 00:11:24,518 much of it associated with the Fair Play 201 00:11:24,601 --> 00:11:27,312 for Cuba Committee centered in New York. 202 00:11:27,646 --> 00:11:32,651 Against their advice, he began a chapter of the FPCC 203 00:11:32,734 --> 00:11:36,947 in New Orleans, of which he was the only member. 204 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:39,366 -The Fair Play for Cuba committee was created 205 00:11:39,449 --> 00:11:41,201 in April of 1960, 206 00:11:41,993 --> 00:11:45,539 at exactly the same time that President Eisenhower 207 00:11:45,622 --> 00:11:49,000 ordered the creation of a program to overthrow Castro. 208 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:53,463 Very interesting, the coincidence of those two events. 209 00:11:53,547 --> 00:11:56,883 Oswald had another job working with Guy Bannister 210 00:11:56,967 --> 00:12:00,429 to develop adverse information on political leftists, 211 00:12:00,512 --> 00:12:02,139 or communists or communist sympathizers. 212 00:12:02,222 --> 00:12:04,766 He did this at the universities like Tulane. 213 00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:07,811 So all this stuff in New Orleans that he's doing, 214 00:12:07,894 --> 00:12:14,526 that includes FPCC propaganda and other things, are done to, 215 00:12:14,609 --> 00:12:17,821 very publicly on television, on the radio, 216 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:20,240 in the streets, uh, of New Orleans 217 00:12:20,323 --> 00:12:23,827 to develop this profile, to establish his bona fides 218 00:12:24,202 --> 00:12:28,039 as a hot-headed pro-Castro supporter. 219 00:12:28,123 --> 00:12:29,458 At some point, the FBI, 220 00:12:29,541 --> 00:12:32,085 I think probably after the assassination, 221 00:12:32,169 --> 00:12:33,086 decided they didn't-- 222 00:12:33,170 --> 00:12:36,548 they wanted to disconnect Oswald from the FBI. 223 00:12:36,631 --> 00:12:39,718 And of course, that Bannister, who's associated with the FBI, 224 00:12:39,801 --> 00:12:41,928 would have to be disconnected as well. 225 00:12:42,387 --> 00:12:44,431 The problem with that, many of those handbills 226 00:12:44,848 --> 00:12:48,393 had the 544 Camp Street address on them. 227 00:12:48,477 --> 00:12:52,022 There was a message from New Orleans to the Bureau 228 00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:56,818 written by Special Agent Maynor, who actually mentioned 229 00:12:56,902 --> 00:13:00,155 pamphlets that had the 544 Camp Street address on it. 230 00:13:00,530 --> 00:13:02,032 And before that message was sent, 231 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:03,533 it was scratched out. 232 00:13:06,411 --> 00:13:08,079 [Goldberg] After the assassination, 233 00:13:08,163 --> 00:13:10,415 when the FBI questioned Bannister, 234 00:13:10,499 --> 00:13:12,918 a former FBI agent himself, 235 00:13:13,293 --> 00:13:16,087 they did not ask him about Oswald. 236 00:13:22,511 --> 00:13:25,555 One of the places Oswald leafleted in front of 237 00:13:26,014 --> 00:13:28,892 was Clay Shaw's International Trade Mart. 238 00:13:29,351 --> 00:13:33,897 Shaw, who was arrested by New Orleans D.A. Jim Garrison 239 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:36,691 on charges that he was part of the conspiracy 240 00:13:36,775 --> 00:13:38,443 to kill President Kennedy, 241 00:13:38,652 --> 00:13:42,072 always denied he was associated with the CIA. 242 00:13:42,155 --> 00:13:43,532 [interviewer] "You have never, yourself, 243 00:13:43,615 --> 00:13:44,783 had any CIA connection?" 244 00:13:44,866 --> 00:13:45,784 -"None whatsoever." 245 00:13:45,867 --> 00:13:47,244 [interviewer] "Any association with the organization?" 246 00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:48,286 -"No, none." 247 00:13:48,370 --> 00:13:49,621 [Goldberg] The Review Board has shown 248 00:13:49,704 --> 00:13:51,456 these denials to be false. 249 00:13:51,540 --> 00:13:55,252 Shaw was both a highly valued contract agent 250 00:13:55,335 --> 00:13:57,629 and had a covert security clearance 251 00:13:57,796 --> 00:14:01,716 for a project codename QKENCHANT. 252 00:14:03,593 --> 00:14:05,554 New Orleans attorney Dean Andrews 253 00:14:05,637 --> 00:14:09,057 had worked with Oswald in May of '63 in an attempt 254 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:10,767 to upgrade his military 255 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:14,604 discharge from its undesirable status. 256 00:14:14,688 --> 00:14:16,398 After the assassination, 257 00:14:16,481 --> 00:14:20,235 a man calling himself Clay Bertrand phoned Andrews 258 00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:24,656 and asked him to consider going to Dallas to defend Oswald. 259 00:14:25,407 --> 00:14:29,536 Under oath, Clay Shaw denied that he was Clay Bertrand. 260 00:14:29,619 --> 00:14:33,748 And Andrews claimed that because of medication he was on, 261 00:14:33,832 --> 00:14:36,543 he had only imagined the phone call. 262 00:14:36,626 --> 00:14:38,336 But today, because of the work 263 00:14:38,420 --> 00:14:41,881 of the Assassination Records Review Board, we now have 264 00:14:41,965 --> 00:14:44,551 evidence and 12 people who confirm 265 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:47,429 that Shaw used this name as an alias. 266 00:14:47,512 --> 00:14:50,432 Andrews later admitted that Shaw was Bertrand 267 00:14:50,515 --> 00:14:53,852 to author Harold Weisberg, but made him promise 268 00:14:53,935 --> 00:14:57,564 not to reveal this until after Andrews' death. 269 00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:11,661 Evidence of another aspect of Oswald's time in New Orleans 270 00:15:11,953 --> 00:15:13,872 is supported by Robert Tanenbaum, 271 00:15:14,122 --> 00:15:17,709 the Deputy Chief Counsel of the House Select Committee, 272 00:15:17,792 --> 00:15:22,631 and others who have seen film of Oswald, David Ferrie, 273 00:15:22,714 --> 00:15:27,302 and CIA director of Cuban Operations David Atlee Phillips 274 00:15:27,385 --> 00:15:29,638 at anti-Castro training camps. 275 00:15:30,221 --> 00:15:32,891 Phillips was a propaganda specialist, 276 00:15:32,974 --> 00:15:36,686 and his tactics to neutralize the Fair Play for Cuba Committee 277 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:39,939 included infiltration, surveillance, 278 00:15:40,023 --> 00:15:43,401 and recruitment of other agent provocateurs. 279 00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:49,824 David Phillips also created an anti-Castro Cuban exile group. 280 00:15:50,492 --> 00:15:53,953 The Student Revolutionary Directorate, or DRE, 281 00:15:54,204 --> 00:15:57,666 was based in Miami, and had a chapter in New Orleans 282 00:15:57,749 --> 00:16:00,460 led by Carlos Bringuier. 283 00:16:00,543 --> 00:16:03,630 Records released by the ARRB 284 00:16:03,797 --> 00:16:06,174 show the CIA was funding this group 285 00:16:06,257 --> 00:16:09,386 and helped plan activities, including the attack 286 00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:13,640 on a Cuban hotel which housed Soviet advisers. 287 00:16:13,723 --> 00:16:15,809 [Jefferson Morley] AMSPELL was the CIA's code name 288 00:16:15,892 --> 00:16:17,602 for the Cuban Student Directorate. 289 00:16:17,686 --> 00:16:18,603 The name doesn't appear 290 00:16:18,687 --> 00:16:20,438 in the final report of the Warren Commission. 291 00:16:20,522 --> 00:16:23,400 They certainly did not know that the group was receiving 292 00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:26,986 51,000 dollars a month from the CIA in 1963, 293 00:16:27,904 --> 00:16:30,990 and they didn't know that the group was being run from Miami 294 00:16:31,074 --> 00:16:32,283 by George Joannides, 295 00:16:32,367 --> 00:16:34,244 a psychological warfare officer, 296 00:16:34,327 --> 00:16:36,204 who reported directly to Dick Helms. 297 00:16:37,247 --> 00:16:40,667 The DRE published the first JFK conspiracy theory 298 00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:45,422 saying that Oswald and Castro were the presumed assassins. 299 00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:48,800 and that publication was paid for by the CIA 300 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,969 under the auspices of George Joannides. 301 00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:52,846 The Joannides story tells us 302 00:16:52,929 --> 00:16:56,599 that Dick Helms' hand-picked man in Miami 303 00:16:56,933 --> 00:17:00,228 was controlling the group that had the most to do with Oswald 304 00:17:00,311 --> 00:17:01,896 before and after the assassination. 305 00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:05,483 I found out Joannides' identity many years later, 306 00:17:05,567 --> 00:17:06,818 and I went to Bob Blakey, 307 00:17:06,901 --> 00:17:09,612 the head of the HSCA investigation, 308 00:17:09,738 --> 00:17:11,990 and I said, "Bob, did you ever know this guy Joannides?" 309 00:17:12,073 --> 00:17:13,950 And he said, "Yeah, you know, we dealt with him a lot, 310 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:14,993 he was the liaison." 311 00:17:15,285 --> 00:17:18,121 And I said, "Did you know what he was doing in 1963?" 312 00:17:18,204 --> 00:17:20,123 And he said, "He wasn't doing anything in 1963. 313 00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:21,541 We had an agreement with the CIA 314 00:17:21,624 --> 00:17:24,586 that nobody who was operational at the time of the assassination 315 00:17:25,003 --> 00:17:26,629 would be involved in the investigation." 316 00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:29,507 And I said, "Bob, think again. 317 00:17:29,591 --> 00:17:31,551 Joannides was running those Cubans 318 00:17:31,634 --> 00:17:32,677 who were in touch with Oswald. 319 00:17:32,761 --> 00:17:34,763 He was running the Cubans who were blaming Castro 320 00:17:34,846 --> 00:17:36,181 for the assassination. 321 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:38,516 And then he came along, and he stonewalled you." 322 00:17:38,892 --> 00:17:41,186 The reason why they brought Joannides in to do it 323 00:17:41,644 --> 00:17:44,063 was to hide the connection to Oswald. 324 00:17:44,481 --> 00:17:45,648 He was definitely shocked 325 00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:49,277 because he saw just how clever they had been. 326 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,197 They had gone right to the heart of his investigation, 327 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,115 and figured out how to paralyze it. 328 00:17:54,741 --> 00:17:56,367 [Dan Hardway] I no longer trust anything 329 00:17:56,451 --> 00:17:59,537 that the agency has told us in regard to the assassination. 330 00:17:59,954 --> 00:18:02,207 It lied to the Warren Commission. 331 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:04,459 It lied to the ARRB. 332 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:08,671 It lied to the HSCA in admitting that Joannides was employed 333 00:18:08,755 --> 00:18:12,675 in a covert capacity as liaison to the HSCA. 334 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:17,138 It has admitted that it violated its charter, 335 00:18:17,347 --> 00:18:19,557 and ran a domestic covert operation 336 00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:24,312 aimed at subverting the HSCA and its investigation. 337 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:26,231 [Jefferson Morley] On the night of the assassination, 338 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:29,317 the spokesman for the DRE in Miami got on the phone 339 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,902 and started telling reporters, 340 00:18:31,361 --> 00:18:33,655 "We know all about the guy who killed the president." 341 00:18:50,505 --> 00:18:54,175 And they talked to 10 or 15 reporters that night. 342 00:18:54,259 --> 00:18:58,429 So the CIA's propaganda assets shaped the story 343 00:18:58,805 --> 00:19:01,307 from the first hours after Kennedy was dead. 344 00:19:07,272 --> 00:19:08,439 [Goldberg] Even the Assassination 345 00:19:08,523 --> 00:19:09,732 Records Review Board 346 00:19:09,816 --> 00:19:12,735 had trouble getting documents from government agencies. 347 00:19:13,528 --> 00:19:17,115 In late 1992, a month after the Records Act 348 00:19:17,198 --> 00:19:19,742 was passed, the Secret Service 349 00:19:19,826 --> 00:19:23,204 began its compliance plan, but by January 350 00:19:23,288 --> 00:19:28,960 of 1995, it had begun destroying important documents. 351 00:19:29,043 --> 00:19:30,879 -And they destroyed a group of records 352 00:19:30,962 --> 00:19:33,464 which involved threats to President Kennedy 353 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,842 in the fall of 1963. 354 00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:38,386 They have what are called threat sheets. 355 00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:41,723 And there were many threats made to President Kennedy's life 356 00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:43,850 during the year 1963. 357 00:19:43,975 --> 00:19:46,603 They fought us on release of those records, 358 00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:49,647 they even enlisted Vice President Gore's wife 359 00:19:49,898 --> 00:19:53,651 to help them because she had a very legitimate concern 360 00:19:53,735 --> 00:19:55,069 for mental health records. 361 00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:57,530 And the idea was that this might disclose 362 00:19:57,614 --> 00:20:00,366 the names of people who had mental health problems. 363 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:03,620 In the end, when we required agencies to disclose, 364 00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:06,372 to swear under oath that they had located 365 00:20:06,456 --> 00:20:07,832 all assassination records, 366 00:20:07,916 --> 00:20:09,626 and had turned everything over to us, 367 00:20:10,043 --> 00:20:13,963 the Secret Service refused to sign the document under oath. 368 00:20:14,172 --> 00:20:15,715 I think that was telling. 369 00:20:15,924 --> 00:20:20,053 -The destruction of records is actually referenced in the, 370 00:20:20,136 --> 00:20:23,640 uh, Assassination Records Review Board final report. 371 00:20:23,806 --> 00:20:26,768 A very, um, very disappointing. 372 00:20:26,851 --> 00:20:28,561 They were records that related to trips 373 00:20:28,645 --> 00:20:33,650 that President Kennedy had taken in the fall of 1963 374 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:35,526 prior to him going to Dallas. 375 00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:42,367 In the FBI, uh, a stop or flash was placed on Oswald's files, 376 00:20:42,617 --> 00:20:47,705 which meant that no one could ask for a document 377 00:20:47,789 --> 00:20:49,916 in those files, or no one could even 378 00:20:49,999 --> 00:20:53,836 add a document to those files, without going through 379 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,755 the FBI's espionage division. 380 00:20:56,673 --> 00:20:58,841 And that lasted for four years. 381 00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:02,136 It was essentially a blinking red light 382 00:21:02,679 --> 00:21:04,889 on Oswald's files at FBI. 383 00:21:06,307 --> 00:21:09,727 On 8 October 1963, 384 00:21:10,144 --> 00:21:12,981 an FBI agent whose name was Marvin Gheesling 385 00:21:13,147 --> 00:21:15,858 took that status off of Oswald's files. 386 00:21:15,942 --> 00:21:19,696 He dropped the flag on Oswald's files. 387 00:21:20,196 --> 00:21:24,826 What that action did was to lower Oswald's threat profile 388 00:21:24,909 --> 00:21:30,206 at the FBI just weeks before the Kennedy assassination. 389 00:21:30,707 --> 00:21:33,418 And what that would mean is there was no reason 390 00:21:33,501 --> 00:21:36,879 to put Oswald's name on the security index. 391 00:21:36,963 --> 00:21:39,173 One thing about the security index is 392 00:21:39,257 --> 00:21:41,300 when you have a presidential motorcade 393 00:21:41,551 --> 00:21:43,594 going through a particular route, 394 00:21:43,886 --> 00:21:45,179 anybody who's on that index 395 00:21:45,263 --> 00:21:47,098 has to be removed from where they are. 396 00:21:47,181 --> 00:21:48,474 They cannot be on the parade route. 397 00:21:49,267 --> 00:21:52,729 That action at the FBI didn't happen in isolation. 398 00:21:52,812 --> 00:21:56,482 The same thing happened at CIA at exactly the same time. 399 00:21:57,066 --> 00:21:58,985 And of course, it exposes the president 400 00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:02,363 to a dangerous situation that he shouldn't have been. 401 00:22:04,073 --> 00:22:05,825 [Goldberg] Few people knew that there had been 402 00:22:05,908 --> 00:22:11,247 at least two prior plots to kill President Kennedy in 1963. 403 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:13,958 One was in Chicago on November 2nd. 404 00:22:14,042 --> 00:22:17,920 The second one was in Tampa on November 18th. 405 00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:20,423 -Kennedy ended up not going to Chicago. 406 00:22:20,506 --> 00:22:21,924 Tell us about that plot. 407 00:22:22,467 --> 00:22:25,845 -An informant, on October 31, 408 00:22:25,928 --> 00:22:27,513 an informant named Lee, 409 00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:29,432 who could have been Lee Harvey Oswald, 410 00:22:29,557 --> 00:22:34,604 gave a warning to the FBI stating that four Cubans 411 00:22:35,063 --> 00:22:37,398 were headed to Chicago to shoot Kennedy. 412 00:22:37,607 --> 00:22:41,152 The following day, a landlady reported to the Chicago police 413 00:22:41,235 --> 00:22:43,571 that she had rented a room to four people 414 00:22:43,821 --> 00:22:46,032 that had rifles with telescopic sights, 415 00:22:46,115 --> 00:22:47,158 and a sketch of the motorcade. 416 00:22:47,241 --> 00:22:50,369 The FBI passed that on to the Secret Service. 417 00:22:50,620 --> 00:22:53,748 And the Secret Service botched the surveillance 418 00:22:53,831 --> 00:22:55,500 of these four individuals. 419 00:22:55,583 --> 00:22:57,627 Two of them escaped, but they actually picked up 420 00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:00,296 two of the snipers, and they detained them. 421 00:23:00,755 --> 00:23:02,590 They were stonewalled by the snipers. 422 00:23:02,673 --> 00:23:04,175 They didn't get any information out of them. 423 00:23:04,383 --> 00:23:06,010 While this was goin' on, 424 00:23:06,427 --> 00:23:08,721 there was another threat coming in from 425 00:23:08,805 --> 00:23:12,975 another alternate patsy named Thomas Arthur Vallee, 426 00:23:13,059 --> 00:23:14,644 who was making open and loud threats 427 00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:17,021 that he would assassinate Kennedy. 428 00:23:17,105 --> 00:23:20,066 They only picked him up when Kennedy canceled 429 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:23,861 his trip on November 2nd at 10 in the morning. 430 00:23:24,195 --> 00:23:25,613 One day before the trip, 431 00:23:25,696 --> 00:23:28,491 the Diem brothers had been assassinated. 432 00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:30,368 And that was the stated reason 433 00:23:30,451 --> 00:23:32,620 for the cancellation of the trip to Chicago. 434 00:23:33,746 --> 00:23:37,625 What you found in Vallee, and the whole Chicago plot, 435 00:23:38,042 --> 00:23:41,879 is so many similarities to what eventually happened in Dallas 436 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:44,423 that it-- it can't be considered coincidental. 437 00:23:44,841 --> 00:23:49,262 Vallee, if we compare him to Oswald, is an ex-Marine. 438 00:23:49,554 --> 00:23:51,556 He had been posted like Oswald in the 439 00:23:51,639 --> 00:23:55,518 Far East on a station that was linked to the CIA 440 00:23:55,601 --> 00:23:58,646 because there were U-2 surveillance planes on it. 441 00:23:58,729 --> 00:24:02,608 It was easy to portray him as disgruntled, anti-Kennedy, 442 00:24:02,692 --> 00:24:04,277 a loner, armed. 443 00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:08,239 He had another intelligence link that he shared with 444 00:24:08,322 --> 00:24:13,244 Oswald in that he trained Cuban exiles for combat, which was 445 00:24:13,327 --> 00:24:15,288 a CIA responsibility. 446 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:18,416 And Oswald, we know, at least offered to do that. 447 00:24:18,499 --> 00:24:20,001 He most likely did train Cuban exiles, 448 00:24:20,084 --> 00:24:23,921 but we know he tried to. Oswald, as we know, 449 00:24:24,005 --> 00:24:28,342 was moved from New Orleans to Dallas in October 450 00:24:28,426 --> 00:24:32,430 to be there just at the right time for the motorcade. 451 00:24:32,638 --> 00:24:34,432 And he's placed in a tall building 452 00:24:34,515 --> 00:24:35,641 where he gets a job, 453 00:24:35,725 --> 00:24:38,352 he's adjacent to the perfect kill zone. 454 00:24:38,853 --> 00:24:41,439 Now, if we look at what happened to, uh, Vallee, 455 00:24:41,856 --> 00:24:47,403 he's moved like a pawn in August from Long Island to Chicago 456 00:24:47,695 --> 00:24:49,530 to be in there in time for the motorcade. 457 00:24:49,614 --> 00:24:50,907 And where does he get a job? 458 00:24:51,157 --> 00:24:54,160 In a tall building adjacent to the motorcade 459 00:24:54,535 --> 00:24:57,246 with a perfect view of a, uh, kill zone. 460 00:24:57,330 --> 00:25:01,250 It would have forced Kennedy's motorcade to do a sharp turn, 461 00:25:01,334 --> 00:25:02,919 slow down and be in a point 462 00:25:03,252 --> 00:25:06,088 where you could have had perfect triangulation of fire. 463 00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:07,965 -And what about the trip to Florida? 464 00:25:08,049 --> 00:25:11,093 -On November 18th, Kennedy was scheduled to do 465 00:25:11,177 --> 00:25:14,388 a 27 mile-long motorcade in Tampa. 466 00:25:14,472 --> 00:25:16,807 The Secret Service was very nervous 467 00:25:16,891 --> 00:25:18,684 about the Floridian Hotel 468 00:25:18,768 --> 00:25:20,478 where the motorcade would have gone by. 469 00:25:20,561 --> 00:25:21,938 It would have forced a sharp turn. 470 00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:23,648 Nobody fired away at him. 471 00:25:23,731 --> 00:25:26,317 But in this case, the alternate patsy 472 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,487 would have been a Gilbert Policarpo Lopez. 473 00:25:29,737 --> 00:25:31,572 He was a Cuban exile. 474 00:25:31,906 --> 00:25:33,324 He, uh, attended 475 00:25:33,574 --> 00:25:36,118 Fair Play for Cuba Committee meetings. 476 00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:39,830 One day after the assassination, on November 23rd, 477 00:25:40,164 --> 00:25:42,124 he makes his way to Mexico City. 478 00:25:42,208 --> 00:25:45,419 The Fair Play for Cuba Committee loaned him money for his travel, 479 00:25:45,670 --> 00:25:47,755 and he ends up being the lone passenger 480 00:25:47,838 --> 00:25:49,507 on an airplane to Cuba. 481 00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,009 The CIA, they found out 482 00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:53,552 about the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, 483 00:25:53,761 --> 00:25:56,013 the weird trip to Mexico City, the fact that he was 484 00:25:56,097 --> 00:25:59,016 a lone passenger on a plane to, uh, Cuba. 485 00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:01,352 And they didn't pass on the information 486 00:26:01,435 --> 00:26:02,728 to the Warren Commission. 487 00:26:03,020 --> 00:26:06,190 So when the HSCA found out about this lead 488 00:26:06,357 --> 00:26:09,610 that wasn't pursued, even they called it egregious. 489 00:26:10,278 --> 00:26:12,905 -And what do you think was the relevance of it? 490 00:26:13,155 --> 00:26:16,784 -Well, if he had been assassinated in Tampa, Lopez, 491 00:26:16,993 --> 00:26:19,203 he would have been the potential patsy. 492 00:26:19,287 --> 00:26:21,706 If they had to admit to a front shot, 493 00:26:22,456 --> 00:26:25,793 because Oswald was behind, there were rumors 494 00:26:26,127 --> 00:26:30,006 that he had assisted Oswald in the assassination in Dallas. 495 00:26:30,256 --> 00:26:32,425 -Had anyone, anyone tried to speak to 496 00:26:32,508 --> 00:26:34,969 the Warren Commission about these incidents? 497 00:26:35,303 --> 00:26:38,097 [Paul Bleau] Abraham Bolden was the first Black 498 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,642 Secret Service agent assigned to the White House detail, 499 00:26:41,726 --> 00:26:43,644 and he was handpicked by Kennedy. 500 00:26:43,728 --> 00:26:46,480 He was in Chicago, uh, when this plot went down. 501 00:26:46,647 --> 00:26:49,317 So he was there when the Secret Service 502 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,777 was briefed about the four snipers, 503 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:56,741 and he witnessed how much the security was lax for Chicago. 504 00:26:57,158 --> 00:27:00,411 And he also witnessed, after the assassination, 505 00:27:00,494 --> 00:27:02,079 the steps that were taken 506 00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:05,458 to keep the Chicago plot completely secret. 507 00:27:05,708 --> 00:27:07,752 No paper trail, compartmentalized, 508 00:27:07,835 --> 00:27:10,212 agents ordered to keep silent about it. 509 00:27:10,588 --> 00:27:15,760 This information did not make its way to Secret Service agents 510 00:27:15,843 --> 00:27:18,804 that were protecting Kennedy for future motorcades, 511 00:27:18,888 --> 00:27:19,764 including Dallas. 512 00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:22,308 [Goldberg] Secret Service Agent Elmer Moore 513 00:27:22,516 --> 00:27:26,312 was aware of Agent Bolden and the Chicago plot. 514 00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:29,607 -I met with Elmer three times face-to-face. 515 00:27:30,191 --> 00:27:33,319 Several phone calls, very short. One very long one. 516 00:27:33,527 --> 00:27:37,073 I first asked him, "Did you ever interview 517 00:27:37,239 --> 00:27:38,741 Thomas Arthur Vallee?" 518 00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:40,743 And he said, "Oh, Washington wouldn't 519 00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:42,870 let me see the files on that." 520 00:27:42,953 --> 00:27:45,122 I said, "Oh, well, what about a man, 521 00:27:45,206 --> 00:27:48,334 a Secret Service agent by the name of Abraham Bolden?" 522 00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:51,712 His demeanor completely changed. 523 00:27:51,796 --> 00:27:53,923 He stood up from his chair. 524 00:27:54,006 --> 00:27:57,635 He pulled out his revolver and he put it on the table, 525 00:27:57,718 --> 00:27:59,053 right in front of me. 526 00:27:59,136 --> 00:28:01,597 He leaned over the table, and he says, 527 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,934 "Jim, tell me right now, who are you working for?" 528 00:28:07,603 --> 00:28:10,815 I said, "I'm an independent researcher." 529 00:28:11,232 --> 00:28:12,358 He told me 530 00:28:14,777 --> 00:28:16,362 in a very loud voice, 531 00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:20,658 and with a very stern look on his face, 532 00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:25,037 "That goddamned lying nigger. We finally got him." 533 00:28:26,330 --> 00:28:28,457 I said, "You got him?" He says, "No." 534 00:28:28,833 --> 00:28:31,252 He said, "Kelley and the chief got him." 535 00:28:31,335 --> 00:28:32,628 I think that, uh, 536 00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:34,797 Moore and the rest of his crew 537 00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:40,094 were scared speechless that Bolden knew somethin'. 538 00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:42,471 [Paul Bleau] Abraham Bolden was one person 539 00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:45,599 who did try to say what he knew to the Warren Commission, 540 00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:48,727 but they blocked him. He was blocked from talking 541 00:28:49,019 --> 00:28:52,606 and eventually railroaded into some phony crime 542 00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:54,900 and put into jail for a number of years. 543 00:28:57,570 --> 00:28:59,238 [Jim Gochenaur] Moore leaned back in his big 544 00:28:59,321 --> 00:29:00,531 comfortable leather chair, 545 00:29:00,614 --> 00:29:03,325 and he said, "Who killed Jack Kennedy?" 546 00:29:04,201 --> 00:29:08,038 Then he said, "Well, I'll tell you who didn't. 547 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:12,960 With 100 percent certainty. It wasn't the Russians." 548 00:29:14,295 --> 00:29:16,672 And my head is starting to swim. 549 00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:20,134 I wanted to break in right at that point, but then he said, 550 00:29:20,468 --> 00:29:21,802 "I'll tell you why-- 551 00:29:23,387 --> 00:29:27,349 JFK was the Russians' boy. 552 00:29:28,684 --> 00:29:30,978 He was giving away everything he could. 553 00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:37,693 That the man, for all intents and purposes," he says, 554 00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:39,320 "Dare I say it? 555 00:29:39,403 --> 00:29:43,491 Jim, I will say it, JFK was a traitor." 556 00:29:46,243 --> 00:29:47,745 [Oliver Stone] The ghost of John Kennedy 557 00:29:47,828 --> 00:29:49,079 would turn over in his grave 558 00:29:49,163 --> 00:29:53,626 at these cruel words. But the truth is, 559 00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:56,670 the competing narrative of his life and death, 560 00:29:56,921 --> 00:29:59,924 as told us by Allen Dulles and his ilk-- 561 00:30:00,007 --> 00:30:03,469 of a leftist assassin killing a president 562 00:30:03,552 --> 00:30:06,013 with three shots from a sixth-floor window-- 563 00:30:06,472 --> 00:30:07,598 has won the day 564 00:30:07,681 --> 00:30:09,975 and continues as the official story. 565 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:14,063 But, the ghost will not be appeased. 566 00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:25,115 [Donald Sutherland] After the Bay of Pigs debacle, 567 00:30:25,366 --> 00:30:27,451 JFK began to use his brother Bobby 568 00:30:27,535 --> 00:30:29,370 as a foreign policy advisor. 569 00:30:29,912 --> 00:30:33,374 Bobby was influential in the decision to fire Allen Dulles. 570 00:30:33,457 --> 00:30:36,502 He then figured as an important advisor 571 00:30:36,585 --> 00:30:39,171 during the Berlin confrontation, on Vietnam, 572 00:30:39,255 --> 00:30:43,759 in both 1961 and '63, and during the Missile Crisis. 573 00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:46,637 -Uh, after the Cuban Missile Crisis, 574 00:30:46,887 --> 00:30:50,099 wasn't President Kennedy attempting a back channel 575 00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:53,269 with Russia and Cuba, and your father was aware of it? 576 00:30:53,686 --> 00:30:56,313 -Jack had an intense interest in Cuban history 577 00:30:56,647 --> 00:30:58,482 and all the history of Latin America. 578 00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:02,861 And he-- he believed that Castro had a point, 579 00:31:02,945 --> 00:31:05,197 in fact he sent a message to Castro 580 00:31:06,115 --> 00:31:09,910 that he read and admired Castro's declaration 581 00:31:09,994 --> 00:31:11,495 at the Sierra Maestra 582 00:31:11,579 --> 00:31:14,540 about the liberation of Cuba and the-- 583 00:31:14,623 --> 00:31:18,627 the right of the Cuban people to exercise sovereignty 584 00:31:18,711 --> 00:31:20,754 over their nation, and over their island. 585 00:31:21,463 --> 00:31:24,967 The message that he sent through Lisa Howard and Attwood 586 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,177 was a message that 587 00:31:27,928 --> 00:31:30,014 "We don't care if you're communists. 588 00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:31,807 We don't care if you're Marxists. 589 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,143 We don't care what kind of government 590 00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:35,769 that you experiment with. 591 00:31:35,853 --> 00:31:41,275 The only thing we care about is that you don't make your island 592 00:31:41,358 --> 00:31:44,153 a platform for Soviet aggression in the hemisphere. 593 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:45,779 And that you stop your campaign 594 00:31:45,863 --> 00:31:48,407 against the Alliance for Progress nations, 595 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:49,825 against the Social Democrats, 596 00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:54,038 Betancourt in Venezuela, Lleras Camargo in Colombia, 597 00:31:54,121 --> 00:31:57,166 people who really were trying to democratize their country 598 00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:59,793 and develop fair systems for the poor. 599 00:32:01,503 --> 00:32:05,424 By '62, President Kennedy was actively engaged 600 00:32:06,216 --> 00:32:09,470 with Khrushchev, and they had a secret 601 00:32:09,553 --> 00:32:11,805 exchange of 26 letters with each other. 602 00:32:11,972 --> 00:32:14,975 And they were operating through back channels, 603 00:32:15,059 --> 00:32:17,394 because both of them found themselves 604 00:32:17,478 --> 00:32:22,399 in identical positions, um, surrounded by war hawks, 605 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:26,195 surrounded by a bellicose intelligence 606 00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:28,947 military establishment, and all of them viewing 607 00:32:29,031 --> 00:32:32,076 all-out thermonuclear war, not only as inevitable, 608 00:32:32,326 --> 00:32:34,244 but in some cases, desirable. 609 00:32:35,496 --> 00:32:40,417 The first of those letters was smuggled by Khrushchev 610 00:32:40,501 --> 00:32:44,838 through a KGB spy named Georgi Bolshakov. 611 00:32:44,922 --> 00:32:48,759 Georgi was a friend of my parents. 612 00:32:48,842 --> 00:32:52,846 My uncle wrote the first of his from Cape Cod, 613 00:32:53,722 --> 00:32:57,434 and he talked about how his children and their cousins, 614 00:32:57,601 --> 00:32:59,520 which meant us, were playing in the yard, 615 00:32:59,603 --> 00:33:04,733 and that these two leaders had no right to bring the world 616 00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:08,237 to a crisis that would destroy children like us 617 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,782 who had no political involvement. 618 00:33:11,865 --> 00:33:14,493 And the millions of other people around the world 619 00:33:14,576 --> 00:33:15,994 who would be destroyed. 620 00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:18,706 And that it would be their failure and their sin 621 00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:21,041 if they allowed that to happen. 622 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:24,128 And they proceeded along a course 623 00:33:24,211 --> 00:33:29,091 that ended up with them really talking very seriously 624 00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:32,219 about complete demobilization. 625 00:33:32,678 --> 00:33:34,513 And Khrushchev's career was, 626 00:33:34,805 --> 00:33:38,058 um, it was ended by that as well. 627 00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:40,436 -Among the many traits 628 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,105 the peoples of our two countries have in common, 629 00:33:43,564 --> 00:33:47,234 none is stronger than our mutual abhorrence of war. 630 00:33:48,193 --> 00:33:51,947 Almost unique among the major world powers, 631 00:33:52,239 --> 00:33:54,199 we have never been at war with each other. 632 00:33:54,742 --> 00:33:55,826 [Lisa Pease] Norman Cousins, 633 00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:58,412 who was then the editor of the Saturday Review, 634 00:33:58,954 --> 00:34:01,498 had gotten a meeting with Khrushchev. 635 00:34:01,582 --> 00:34:04,501 And so Norman Cousins goes to Kennedy, and he said, 636 00:34:04,585 --> 00:34:07,963 "Let's talk about antinuclear plans. 637 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:09,715 Let's see if we can, you know, 638 00:34:09,798 --> 00:34:11,842 go for some sort of form of disarmament." 639 00:34:11,925 --> 00:34:15,095 He's like, "What can I say as to your level of commitment?" 640 00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:17,681 And Kennedy's like, "I'm 100 percent committed 641 00:34:17,765 --> 00:34:19,099 to disarming our nukes." 642 00:34:19,266 --> 00:34:21,018 And that was very difficult because, again, 643 00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:22,811 there are hardliners on both sides. 644 00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:26,523 And so, they ended up with the Limited Test Ban Treaty 645 00:34:26,607 --> 00:34:29,443 where they banned all above-ground testing. 646 00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:31,570 But that's what came of that meeting, 647 00:34:31,779 --> 00:34:35,240 is that conversation. But when he came back, 648 00:34:35,324 --> 00:34:37,785 he also said, "Khrushchev's gonna need a real sign from you 649 00:34:37,868 --> 00:34:39,661 that you're really committed to this." 650 00:34:40,204 --> 00:34:43,999 -And of course, this became very eloquently real 651 00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:49,171 in June of 1963, when Kennedy gives the famous "peace speech" 652 00:34:49,338 --> 00:34:52,132 as it came to be known, at American University. 653 00:34:52,216 --> 00:34:54,176 -I realize the pursuit of peace 654 00:34:54,885 --> 00:34:58,722 is not as dramatic as the pursuit of war. 655 00:34:59,223 --> 00:35:01,266 And every graduate of this school, 656 00:35:02,017 --> 00:35:06,313 every thoughtful citizen who despairs of war, 657 00:35:07,397 --> 00:35:11,777 and wishes to bring peace, should begin by looking inward, 658 00:35:12,361 --> 00:35:14,655 by examining his own attitude 659 00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:17,199 towards the possibilities of peace, 660 00:35:17,741 --> 00:35:19,326 towards the Soviet Union, 661 00:35:19,952 --> 00:35:22,120 towards the course of the Cold War, 662 00:35:22,913 --> 00:35:25,040 and towards freedom and peace here at home. 663 00:35:26,375 --> 00:35:29,419 First, examine our attitude towards peace itself. 664 00:35:30,337 --> 00:35:33,006 Too many of us think it is impossible, 665 00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:35,551 too many think it is unreal. 666 00:35:36,093 --> 00:35:39,638 But that is a dangerous, defeatist belief. 667 00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:44,518 It leads to the conclusion that war is inevitable. 668 00:35:45,018 --> 00:35:47,521 That mankind is doomed. 669 00:35:48,021 --> 00:35:51,733 That we are gripped by forces we cannot control. 670 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:55,279 -I think Mr. Kennedy has done some significant things 671 00:35:55,362 --> 00:35:59,157 in civil rights, and I would include the attorney general. 672 00:35:59,241 --> 00:36:04,288 I think, uh, both of these men are men of genuine good will. 673 00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:07,457 And, uh, I think there is a necessity now to 674 00:36:07,541 --> 00:36:09,710 seize the urgency of the moment. 675 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:11,503 [Oliver Stone] Although we've focused 676 00:36:11,587 --> 00:36:13,338 primarily on foreign policy, 677 00:36:13,422 --> 00:36:16,049 we cannot overlook Kennedy's battles in the South 678 00:36:16,133 --> 00:36:19,052 with Governor Ross Barnett of Mississippi 679 00:36:19,136 --> 00:36:21,054 and, in that June of '63, 680 00:36:21,138 --> 00:36:24,141 with Governor George Wallace of Alabama. 681 00:36:24,433 --> 00:36:25,517 [George Wallace] And I'm asking from you 682 00:36:25,601 --> 00:36:27,144 an unequivocal assurance 683 00:36:27,311 --> 00:36:30,230 that you will not bar entry to these students. 684 00:36:30,314 --> 00:36:32,441 And that you will step aside, peacefully, 685 00:36:32,524 --> 00:36:34,234 do your constitutional duty. 686 00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:35,861 [Oliver Stone] In both showdowns, 687 00:36:35,944 --> 00:36:37,404 using federal troops, 688 00:36:37,779 --> 00:36:40,782 the Kennedy Administration won admission of Black students 689 00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:43,368 to the last public colleges in the South. 690 00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:47,539 George Wallace made it clear that this fight was not over. 691 00:36:47,623 --> 00:36:50,834 -And-- and-- and-- and the-- the South this year, 692 00:36:50,918 --> 00:36:54,630 next year, will decide who the next president is. 693 00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,757 Whoever the South votes for is the president. 694 00:36:56,882 --> 00:36:59,134 And you're gonna see that the South is wanting 695 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:01,178 to be against some folks. 696 00:37:01,345 --> 00:37:03,847 [Oliver Stone] That night, Kennedy addressed the nation 697 00:37:03,931 --> 00:37:06,683 in what many consider the finest presidential speech 698 00:37:06,767 --> 00:37:09,603 on civil rights since Abraham Lincoln. 699 00:37:09,978 --> 00:37:12,731 -And that the rights of every man are diminished, 700 00:37:12,814 --> 00:37:15,567 when the rights of one man are threatened. 701 00:37:15,817 --> 00:37:19,279 Even America, because his skin is dark, 702 00:37:19,363 --> 00:37:22,658 cannot enjoy the full and free life, 703 00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:24,618 which all of us want. 704 00:37:24,701 --> 00:37:27,829 Then who among us would be content to have 705 00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:29,331 the color of his skin changed? 706 00:37:29,706 --> 00:37:32,209 One hundred years of delay have passed 707 00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:35,253 since President Lincoln freed the slaves, 708 00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:38,423 yet their heirs, their grandsons, 709 00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:40,175 are not fully free. 710 00:37:40,425 --> 00:37:43,303 And this nation, for all its hopes, 711 00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:46,848 and all its folks, will not be fully free, 712 00:37:47,474 --> 00:37:49,309 until all its citizens are free. 713 00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:51,687 We face, therefore, a moral crisis, 714 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:53,313 as a country and a people. 715 00:37:53,563 --> 00:37:56,316 And this is a matter which concerns this country, 716 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,651 and what it stands for. 717 00:37:57,734 --> 00:37:58,902 And in meeting it, 718 00:37:59,069 --> 00:38:01,488 I ask the support of all of our citizens. 719 00:38:01,571 --> 00:38:03,407 Thank you very much. 720 00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:05,951 [Sutherland] By the fall of 1963, 721 00:38:06,034 --> 00:38:08,537 Kennedy had made many enemies. 722 00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:11,999 He was working on an American withdrawal from Vietnam, 723 00:38:12,374 --> 00:38:15,919 an upcoming state visit to Indonesia in '64, 724 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:20,048 an independent, unified democracy in the Congo. 725 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:23,844 Through Nasser, a balanced policy in the Middle East. 726 00:38:24,177 --> 00:38:26,930 Normalization of relations with Cuba. 727 00:38:27,222 --> 00:38:29,266 And a detente with Russia-- 728 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,643 even going so far as to offer them 729 00:38:31,727 --> 00:38:33,270 a joint mission to the moon. 730 00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:36,440 But on November 22nd, 731 00:38:36,606 --> 00:38:39,443 another face of America asserted itself. 732 00:38:40,819 --> 00:38:43,405 [reporter] Several thousand enthusiastic Texans are on hand 733 00:38:43,488 --> 00:38:46,742 to give the President and Mrs. Kennedy a warm welcome. 734 00:38:46,825 --> 00:38:50,829 [Sutherland] On that day the world changed. 735 00:38:56,418 --> 00:38:58,670 Lyndon Johnson did not have the understanding 736 00:38:58,754 --> 00:39:00,422 of Third World countries, 737 00:39:00,505 --> 00:39:02,924 nor did he have the anti-colonial sympathies 738 00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:04,801 that President Kennedy had. 739 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:08,764 Therefore, numerous changes in foreign policy took place 740 00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:12,225 within a short period of time after the assassination. 741 00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:16,855 -President Johnson did a 180-degree turn 742 00:39:16,938 --> 00:39:19,107 in terms of Congo policy. 743 00:39:19,608 --> 00:39:21,651 The US, which under Kennedy, 744 00:39:21,735 --> 00:39:24,279 was a champion of African nationalism 745 00:39:24,654 --> 00:39:27,324 and the lead peacekeeper in the Congo, 746 00:39:27,449 --> 00:39:32,496 becomes the agent of white reactionary nationalism 747 00:39:32,579 --> 00:39:34,414 and imperialism led by 748 00:39:34,498 --> 00:39:36,875 the Belgians and the South Africans, 749 00:39:37,084 --> 00:39:39,753 and of all things, the anti-Castro Cubans. 750 00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:46,301 [rapid gunfire] 751 00:39:49,304 --> 00:39:50,639 [Sutherland] The CIA now began 752 00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:53,058 to furnish planes and Cuban exile pilots 753 00:39:53,141 --> 00:39:55,894 to fly sorties to stamp out the rebellion. 754 00:39:56,603 --> 00:40:00,190 According to one pilot, the CIA manned the embassy, 755 00:40:00,273 --> 00:40:02,400 and brought members of a secret operation 756 00:40:02,484 --> 00:40:06,404 from the Bay of Pigs codenamed Operation 40. 757 00:40:06,571 --> 00:40:09,074 -All of whom mount this operation 758 00:40:09,157 --> 00:40:12,869 to return a reactionary government to power 759 00:40:13,078 --> 00:40:16,081 under Joseph Mobutu, and to bring Moise Tshombe, 760 00:40:16,164 --> 00:40:18,375 who was the secessionist leader of Katanga 761 00:40:18,458 --> 00:40:20,085 back in as prime minister. 762 00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:25,423 And it was as if the United States had never really had, 763 00:40:25,715 --> 00:40:28,552 you know, this deep association with African nationalism 764 00:40:29,219 --> 00:40:30,387 under President Kennedy. 765 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,013 [Sutherland] Joseph Mobutu became 766 00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:33,974 the front man for imperial forces, 767 00:40:34,057 --> 00:40:37,394 profiting in the billions from the riches of the Congo. 768 00:40:38,019 --> 00:40:41,565 The Congo never recovered from the assassination of Lumumba. 769 00:40:42,816 --> 00:40:45,193 And today, despite its natural resources, 770 00:40:45,277 --> 00:40:47,237 it is considered a failed state 771 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,364 where 80 percent of the population 772 00:40:49,573 --> 00:40:51,116 live in abject poverty. 773 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:54,452 Like Foster Dulles, 774 00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:57,998 Johnson now favored Saudi Arabia over Egypt, 775 00:40:58,248 --> 00:41:00,959 and greatly favored Israel in the Middle East. 776 00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:05,630 The fairness and even-handedness Kennedy was building was lost. 777 00:41:05,714 --> 00:41:09,009 In 1968, when Johnson learned Israel had acquired 778 00:41:09,092 --> 00:41:11,636 atomic weapons, he made the decision 779 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:14,055 to order CIA director Richard Helms 780 00:41:14,139 --> 00:41:17,601 not to tell the Pentagon or the State Department. 781 00:41:18,059 --> 00:41:20,812 In 1973, while Egyptian tanks 782 00:41:21,062 --> 00:41:22,147 were crossing the Sinai 783 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:25,734 during the Yom Kippur War, Commander Moshe Dayan 784 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:28,945 proposed the use of nuclear weapons. 785 00:41:29,613 --> 00:41:33,116 Kennedy's goals of peace through alliances with moderates, 786 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,117 and a solution for 787 00:41:34,201 --> 00:41:36,369 the Palestinian refugee problem, 788 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,371 were abandoned. 789 00:41:39,873 --> 00:41:42,792 In Latin America, JFK's Alliance for Progress, 790 00:41:43,251 --> 00:41:45,420 a program promoting economic development, 791 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:47,631 suffered as well under Johnson. 792 00:41:47,923 --> 00:41:50,258 In 1964, Johnson said, 793 00:41:50,342 --> 00:41:52,260 you could take all the gold in Fort Knox, 794 00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:55,055 and it would just go down the drain in Latin America 795 00:41:55,263 --> 00:41:58,308 unless the private investor could have some confidence 796 00:41:58,642 --> 00:42:00,185 that he could make his investment, 797 00:42:00,769 --> 00:42:02,604 and it would not be confiscated. 798 00:42:03,772 --> 00:42:06,107 Johnson's private investment idea 799 00:42:06,316 --> 00:42:09,653 broke with Kennedy's policy, which was to make 800 00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:13,198 most of the loans out of the United States Treasury, 801 00:42:13,281 --> 00:42:15,075 thereby charging little or 802 00:42:15,158 --> 00:42:16,618 no interest. 803 00:42:16,826 --> 00:42:18,370 Under Johnson's leadership, 804 00:42:18,453 --> 00:42:22,457 the future allotments for '67 to '69 were reduced 805 00:42:22,749 --> 00:42:26,211 and much of it was shifted to military programs. 806 00:42:27,212 --> 00:42:30,674 By 1973, it was eliminated. 807 00:42:32,968 --> 00:42:35,929 Under Secretary of State George Ball referred to 808 00:42:36,012 --> 00:42:38,765 the island archipelago of Indonesia 809 00:42:38,848 --> 00:42:41,351 as the true breaking point in Asia-- 810 00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,562 more important to the United States than Vietnam. 811 00:42:45,146 --> 00:42:49,442 -What were some of Kennedy's plans for Indonesia after 1964? 812 00:42:50,151 --> 00:42:52,487 -Three days before Kennedy was killed, 813 00:42:52,821 --> 00:42:57,242 he signed an 11-million dollar aid package that included, 814 00:42:57,367 --> 00:42:58,910 you know, not just military weapons-- 815 00:42:58,994 --> 00:43:00,745 because that's something they hadn't been willing 816 00:43:00,829 --> 00:43:03,456 to provide before Kennedy, and Kennedy knew, look, 817 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:04,791 if we don't give them the weapons, 818 00:43:04,874 --> 00:43:06,626 they're just gonna go get them from the Soviets. 819 00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:07,877 So he did agree to that. 820 00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:11,214 But Kennedy wanted to emphasize roads, infrastructure, 821 00:43:11,298 --> 00:43:14,134 education, you know, money for food, 822 00:43:14,509 --> 00:43:17,637 money to help levee places and create rice paddies. 823 00:43:17,887 --> 00:43:21,266 Kennedy wanted to help Indonesia become self-sufficient. 824 00:43:21,891 --> 00:43:23,059 [Bradley Simpson] President Johnson 825 00:43:23,143 --> 00:43:24,936 had a visceral dislike of Sukarno 826 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:27,856 that led him to conclude that he didn't want to spend 827 00:43:27,939 --> 00:43:31,276 any political capital attempting to appeal to a leader 828 00:43:31,651 --> 00:43:33,737 that he viewed as a regional bully. 829 00:43:34,070 --> 00:43:37,240 So Sukarno bitterly criticized the US war in Vietnam. 830 00:43:37,574 --> 00:43:39,576 He signaled that he was going to pursue 831 00:43:39,993 --> 00:43:42,579 a radical, anti-colonial foreign policy 832 00:43:42,662 --> 00:43:45,165 that the Johnson administration saw as a direct threat 833 00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:46,374 to American interests, 834 00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:48,251 and something that had to be stopped. 835 00:43:48,501 --> 00:43:51,838 The US State Department signaled to the Indonesian army 836 00:43:52,005 --> 00:43:53,840 that overthrowing Sukarno 837 00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:57,177 and killing lots and lots of communists 838 00:43:57,302 --> 00:43:59,471 would produce a political payoff. 839 00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:02,474 [Sutherland] September 30th, 1965. 840 00:44:02,766 --> 00:44:06,353 Following rumors of a suspected military coup against Sukarno, 841 00:44:06,436 --> 00:44:10,023 leftist officers tried to bring the disloyal generals to trial. 842 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,068 Their plan quickly descended into chaos, 843 00:44:13,318 --> 00:44:15,487 and General Suharto took control. 844 00:44:16,529 --> 00:44:19,157 The Indonesian army, with CIA support, 845 00:44:19,407 --> 00:44:22,577 blamed the killing of the generals on the communist party. 846 00:44:22,869 --> 00:44:25,580 General Suharto then used this as a pretext 847 00:44:25,872 --> 00:44:27,582 to turn the army on the communists, 848 00:44:27,874 --> 00:44:30,585 and eventually neutralized President Sukarno, 849 00:44:30,877 --> 00:44:32,587 taking his place as president. 850 00:44:33,463 --> 00:44:36,383 -Five hundred thousand, at least, were killed, 851 00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:38,343 people that were identified as communists, 852 00:44:38,426 --> 00:44:39,427 whether they were or not, 853 00:44:39,511 --> 00:44:41,346 whether they even knew what communism was or not. 854 00:44:41,429 --> 00:44:43,890 If their name was on a list, they were killed. 855 00:44:45,183 --> 00:44:48,103 -And this is the most consequential legacy 856 00:44:48,186 --> 00:44:50,271 of President Kennedy's assassination. 857 00:44:50,939 --> 00:44:52,607 The coming to power of a president 858 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:54,859 who not only didn't care about Indonesia, 859 00:44:55,026 --> 00:44:57,695 but who surrounded himself with officials, 860 00:44:57,779 --> 00:45:01,574 who had a stake in a far more confrontational approach 861 00:45:01,658 --> 00:45:04,786 towards Indonesia that ultimately resulted in 862 00:45:04,869 --> 00:45:07,372 a spasm of mass killing in which nearly half a million 863 00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:09,958 unarmed civilians were killed by the Indonesian army. 864 00:45:14,421 --> 00:45:15,922 [Sutherland] Regarding Vietnam, 865 00:45:16,005 --> 00:45:18,007 a review of the declassified record 866 00:45:18,091 --> 00:45:22,053 shows that Kennedy continuously pushed back against the Pentagon 867 00:45:22,137 --> 00:45:25,390 by refusing every request to commit combat troops there. 868 00:45:26,182 --> 00:45:27,600 This conflict is reflected 869 00:45:27,684 --> 00:45:32,605 in a National Security Action Memorandum-NSAM 273. 870 00:45:32,689 --> 00:45:36,484 Drafted in the days before his death, in its final form, 871 00:45:36,568 --> 00:45:40,363 it allowed for direct American involvement in Vietnam. 872 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:43,700 [John Newman] McGeorge Bundy, 873 00:45:44,075 --> 00:45:45,869 who's the national security adviser, 874 00:45:45,952 --> 00:45:49,164 puts together a memo, uh, based upon the-- 875 00:45:49,247 --> 00:45:51,749 the truth about the war, which is it's going terribly. 876 00:45:52,167 --> 00:45:55,545 And he does it in a way to try and make sure 877 00:45:55,628 --> 00:45:57,422 that Kennedy would be able to go along with it. 878 00:45:57,505 --> 00:46:01,092 So the way he writes the first draft of 273 879 00:46:01,176 --> 00:46:03,803 is to say, look, we need to intensify the war effort 880 00:46:03,887 --> 00:46:06,639 against the communists. But the way we're gonna do it 881 00:46:06,723 --> 00:46:09,809 is to increase South Vietnamese forces. 882 00:46:09,893 --> 00:46:12,479 There's not a word about American forces 883 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:13,938 or Americanizing the war. 884 00:46:14,355 --> 00:46:16,149 [Sutherland] In fact, after much maneuvering, 885 00:46:16,232 --> 00:46:17,150 Kennedy, Bundy, 886 00:46:17,233 --> 00:46:19,319 and Secretary of Defense McNamara 887 00:46:19,402 --> 00:46:23,490 had already settled on a plan to withdraw 1,000 US troops 888 00:46:23,573 --> 00:46:27,660 by 1963, with the goal of having South Vietnam 889 00:46:27,744 --> 00:46:30,622 responsible for its own combat operations. 890 00:46:36,211 --> 00:46:38,254 [John Newman] While Kennedy's body is still in the casket 891 00:46:38,338 --> 00:46:40,798 in the rotunda over on the Capitol building 892 00:46:41,007 --> 00:46:44,636 is when Johnson changes NSAM 273 to a new version. 893 00:46:44,928 --> 00:46:48,681 It's Sunday, and McGeorge Bundy has to take the old version 894 00:46:48,765 --> 00:46:51,017 around town, and show it to Rusk 895 00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:54,103 and show it to all the principals and get their input. 896 00:46:54,395 --> 00:46:57,732 And when it comes to the key paragraph, paragraph 7, 897 00:46:57,815 --> 00:47:00,610 which talks about how we're going to intensify the war, 898 00:47:00,693 --> 00:47:02,862 all of a sudden, the restrictions 899 00:47:02,946 --> 00:47:06,366 that McGeorge Bundy had put on that, 900 00:47:06,449 --> 00:47:08,201 instead of changing a few words, 901 00:47:08,284 --> 00:47:11,412 there's two big hash marks through that paragraph, 902 00:47:11,496 --> 00:47:12,914 and it's completely rewritten. 903 00:47:13,122 --> 00:47:14,832 And I asked Bundy in an interview, I said, 904 00:47:14,916 --> 00:47:17,585 "Who told you to do that?" He said, "Johnson did." 905 00:47:18,294 --> 00:47:20,838 [Sutherland] In the Review Board's declassifications, 906 00:47:20,922 --> 00:47:23,132 there is evidence that Johnson was fully aware 907 00:47:23,216 --> 00:47:25,260 of Kennedy's Vietnam withdrawal plans, 908 00:47:25,927 --> 00:47:28,721 disagreed with them, and worked on Robert McNamara 909 00:47:28,805 --> 00:47:30,223 to make him renounce them. 910 00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:45,613 -McNamara came into this, um, the decision 911 00:47:45,697 --> 00:47:48,241 to withdraw US forces, and in my view, 912 00:47:48,324 --> 00:47:50,118 he implemented it faithfully 913 00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:52,078 until the time that Kennedy was killed. 914 00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:54,664 [Sutherland] These changes allowed the US 915 00:47:54,747 --> 00:47:57,542 to unilaterally engage in combat in Vietnam, 916 00:47:57,625 --> 00:47:59,877 rather than simply supporting and advising 917 00:48:00,211 --> 00:48:01,629 South Vietnamese troops, 918 00:48:02,046 --> 00:48:04,507 which led to serious consequences. 919 00:48:04,716 --> 00:48:07,051 -And within days, we're talking about 920 00:48:07,135 --> 00:48:10,054 sending out the De Soto missions, these-- 921 00:48:10,138 --> 00:48:15,184 these naval excursions along the coastline of North Vietnam. 922 00:48:15,268 --> 00:48:17,312 That ends up with the Maddox and-- 923 00:48:17,604 --> 00:48:19,439 and the so-called Tonkin, 924 00:48:19,522 --> 00:48:22,400 Gulf, uh, attacks and then the resolution in Congress 925 00:48:22,483 --> 00:48:25,069 opening the door to intervention in Vietnam. 926 00:48:25,278 --> 00:48:28,239 -In retaliation for this unprovoked attack 927 00:48:28,323 --> 00:48:29,324 on the high seas, 928 00:48:30,074 --> 00:48:32,160 our forces have struck the bases 929 00:48:32,243 --> 00:48:34,912 used by the North Vietnamese patrol craft. 930 00:48:34,996 --> 00:48:36,080 -But the new news there is, 931 00:48:36,164 --> 00:48:39,417 it wasn't Johnson who first figured out, you know, 932 00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:40,793 the day after Kennedy was shot, 933 00:48:40,877 --> 00:48:42,879 that he needed to change this NSAM. 934 00:48:42,962 --> 00:48:44,547 He just rubber stamped what 935 00:48:44,672 --> 00:48:49,677 Taylor had been doing covertly ever since NSAM 263. 936 00:48:52,055 --> 00:48:53,723 [Sutherland] And, as declassified memos 937 00:48:53,806 --> 00:48:56,142 have revealed, by autumn of 1964, 938 00:48:56,225 --> 00:48:59,020 during his campaign against Barry Goldwater, 939 00:48:59,270 --> 00:49:00,647 Johnson had already decided 940 00:49:00,730 --> 00:49:03,274 that he was going to escalate the Vietnam War. 941 00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:05,068 In fact, the directive 942 00:49:05,151 --> 00:49:07,403 that would become the Tonkin Gulf Resolution 943 00:49:07,528 --> 00:49:10,907 had been written before the Tonkin Gulf incident itself. 944 00:49:11,491 --> 00:49:14,369 -We are not about to send American boys 945 00:49:14,452 --> 00:49:17,705 nine or 10,000 miles away from home 946 00:49:17,789 --> 00:49:22,168 to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves. 947 00:49:23,002 --> 00:49:24,545 [Sutherland] On August 7th, 948 00:49:24,629 --> 00:49:26,047 three months before the election, 949 00:49:26,130 --> 00:49:29,467 Johnson had already planned for an extensive air war. 950 00:49:29,801 --> 00:49:32,720 It was to begin after his inauguration. 951 00:49:34,347 --> 00:49:37,517 [Lyndon Johnson] We intend to convince the communists 952 00:49:38,434 --> 00:49:42,897 that we cannot be defeated by force of arms, 953 00:49:43,481 --> 00:49:45,441 or by superior power. 954 00:49:49,529 --> 00:49:51,864 -And no nation in the history of battle 955 00:49:52,532 --> 00:49:54,784 ever suffered more than the Soviet Union 956 00:49:55,243 --> 00:49:56,703 in the Second World War. 957 00:49:57,245 --> 00:49:59,539 At least 20 million lost their lives. 958 00:50:00,289 --> 00:50:02,625 Countless millions of homes and families 959 00:50:03,584 --> 00:50:05,002 were burned or sacked. 960 00:50:05,503 --> 00:50:07,505 A third of the nation's territory, 961 00:50:08,423 --> 00:50:10,591 including two thirds of its industrial base, 962 00:50:10,675 --> 00:50:12,468 was turned into a wasteland. 963 00:50:13,136 --> 00:50:15,972 A loss equivalent to the destruction of this country 964 00:50:16,055 --> 00:50:17,807 east of Chicago. 965 00:50:17,890 --> 00:50:19,267 [Sutherland] After his brother's death, 966 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,727 Robert Kennedy knew 967 00:50:20,810 --> 00:50:22,979 that relations with the Soviet Union 968 00:50:23,062 --> 00:50:24,480 hung in the balance. 969 00:50:24,689 --> 00:50:27,358 -On November 29th, he-- 970 00:50:27,442 --> 00:50:30,695 which is one week after the assassination, 971 00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:34,031 my father, he had a meeting with Bill Walton, 972 00:50:34,115 --> 00:50:35,825 who was a friend of the family and was on a-- 973 00:50:35,908 --> 00:50:38,953 it was a cultural trip to the Soviet Union. 974 00:50:39,036 --> 00:50:45,376 And he asked Walton to convey a message through Georgi Bolshakov 975 00:50:45,460 --> 00:50:47,587 to Premier Khrushchev, 976 00:50:48,004 --> 00:50:51,215 saying that our family knew that the Soviets 977 00:50:51,299 --> 00:50:53,176 were not involved in the assassination, 978 00:50:53,342 --> 00:50:57,472 that it was a right wing plot from our own country. 979 00:50:57,555 --> 00:51:01,934 -In other words, the CIA, or forces aligned with the CIA. 980 00:51:02,852 --> 00:51:06,689 They said they also believed that Bobby Kennedy 981 00:51:06,773 --> 00:51:09,901 intended to run for office, and that eventually 982 00:51:09,984 --> 00:51:11,652 he would get back to the White House. 983 00:51:11,861 --> 00:51:15,490 And when he did, he planned to resume his brother's policies 984 00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:18,201 of detente and peace with the Soviet Union. 985 00:51:18,659 --> 00:51:20,369 But they had to bide their time, 986 00:51:20,453 --> 00:51:22,872 and wait for that political opportunity. 987 00:51:23,372 --> 00:51:26,751 This is a stunning message to be delivering to Bolshakov, 988 00:51:26,834 --> 00:51:27,752 because, of course, 989 00:51:27,835 --> 00:51:30,087 Bolshakov is going to take this right to the Kremlin. 990 00:51:31,172 --> 00:51:32,757 [Sutherland] When Khrushchev paid his respects 991 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,259 to President Kennedy at the American Embassy, 992 00:51:36,427 --> 00:51:39,263 he was reportedly holding back tears. 993 00:51:41,724 --> 00:51:43,392 Castro got the news of Kennedy's death 994 00:51:43,476 --> 00:51:45,019 while discussing detente 995 00:51:45,102 --> 00:51:47,980 with the French journalist, Jean Daniel. 996 00:51:48,064 --> 00:51:51,442 He then exclaimed, "This is bad news. 997 00:51:51,651 --> 00:51:53,778 Everything is now going to change." 998 00:51:54,237 --> 00:51:55,738 Like Bobby Kennedy, neither man 999 00:51:55,822 --> 00:51:58,282 believed the conclusions of the Warren Report. 1000 00:51:59,534 --> 00:52:01,244 [Lisa Pease] When news came of Kennedy's death, 1001 00:52:01,536 --> 00:52:05,206 all over the planet, people were mourning and crying 1002 00:52:05,289 --> 00:52:06,833 and going to embassies. 1003 00:52:07,041 --> 00:52:09,418 In Latin America, people just lit candles 1004 00:52:09,502 --> 00:52:11,504 because they didn't even have electrical power. 1005 00:52:11,587 --> 00:52:13,089 But they wanted to honor his killing. 1006 00:52:13,172 --> 00:52:16,717 In the Yucatan Peninsula, peasants cleared an area 1007 00:52:16,801 --> 00:52:18,344 and planted a peace garden. 1008 00:52:18,761 --> 00:52:20,555 [Philip Muehlenbeck] Nasser learned of Kennedy's death 1009 00:52:20,638 --> 00:52:21,681 in the middle of the night. 1010 00:52:21,764 --> 00:52:23,182 He got up, dressed, 1011 00:52:23,266 --> 00:52:25,685 went down to his office and then realized, 1012 00:52:25,893 --> 00:52:27,770 well, there's nothing I can do about this. 1013 00:52:28,062 --> 00:52:30,565 According to his son, Nasser went into, uh, a great, 1014 00:52:30,648 --> 00:52:33,526 uh, state of depression after Kennedy's death. 1015 00:52:33,734 --> 00:52:36,821 Uh, relations with Egypt gradually deteriorated, 1016 00:52:37,029 --> 00:52:39,824 and they increasingly shifted their allegiance 1017 00:52:39,907 --> 00:52:41,742 towards the Soviet Union as well. 1018 00:52:41,951 --> 00:52:43,828 -A mass was held in the leading 1019 00:52:43,911 --> 00:52:47,373 Catholic Church in Cairo, which has a capacity of 600. 1020 00:52:47,665 --> 00:52:51,210 They somehow fit 4,000 people into that church. 1021 00:52:51,419 --> 00:52:54,297 Algeria, which had a special feeling for Kennedy, 1022 00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:56,132 declared a state of mourning for a week. 1023 00:52:56,215 --> 00:52:58,885 Flags were flown at half-mast. 1024 00:52:59,510 --> 00:53:02,013 The US ambassador to Egypt said 1025 00:53:02,179 --> 00:53:05,141 that he thought the Egyptians had seen in Kennedy 1026 00:53:05,474 --> 00:53:07,018 the best of what they saw in Americans, 1027 00:53:07,101 --> 00:53:09,979 that Kennedy had represented a kind of ideal of America 1028 00:53:10,062 --> 00:53:11,647 to ordinary Egyptians. 1029 00:53:11,731 --> 00:53:15,026 -They polled historians, they polled the American people 1030 00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:17,320 to say who are the most popular presidents. 1031 00:53:18,070 --> 00:53:21,365 One metric that you can use to, objectively at least, 1032 00:53:21,449 --> 00:53:25,870 judge their foreign policy is how many boulevards 1033 00:53:25,953 --> 00:53:28,039 are named after that president 1034 00:53:28,122 --> 00:53:29,332 in foreign countries, 1035 00:53:29,415 --> 00:53:31,334 how many hospitals, how many colleges, 1036 00:53:31,417 --> 00:53:32,752 how many schools, 1037 00:53:33,252 --> 00:53:37,548 how many statues are-- are standing of that president 1038 00:53:37,632 --> 00:53:39,425 in capitols all over the world? 1039 00:53:39,508 --> 00:53:41,802 And in that sense, President Kennedy 1040 00:53:42,011 --> 00:53:44,180 beats every other president hands-down. 1041 00:53:46,057 --> 00:53:48,768 [Sutherland] That feeling is not held only abroad. 1042 00:53:48,851 --> 00:53:52,188 Many people at home felt that after Kennedy's death, 1043 00:53:52,271 --> 00:53:56,025 a period of depression and cynicism overtook the country, 1044 00:53:56,108 --> 00:53:59,236 and that America was somehow changed forever. 1045 00:53:59,904 --> 00:54:01,697 Our overwhelming disbelief 1046 00:54:01,781 --> 00:54:03,741 in the Warren Commission's findings 1047 00:54:03,824 --> 00:54:06,035 contributed to increased skepticism 1048 00:54:06,118 --> 00:54:09,872 of all our foundational beliefs about government. 1049 00:54:10,164 --> 00:54:15,544 -I think there's a direct thread between the events of 1963, 1050 00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:17,964 and the kind of horror show 1051 00:54:18,297 --> 00:54:21,467 that America is having to endure right now. 1052 00:54:22,009 --> 00:54:24,887 And I think once you kill a president in broad daylight 1053 00:54:24,971 --> 00:54:26,555 on the streets of an American city, 1054 00:54:26,639 --> 00:54:29,433 and everyone knows that powerful forces did it, 1055 00:54:29,517 --> 00:54:32,103 and it can never be solved, that crime, 1056 00:54:32,186 --> 00:54:35,481 that sends a signal, not only to the American people, 1057 00:54:35,564 --> 00:54:39,402 but to the American media, to American future leaders. 1058 00:54:39,485 --> 00:54:42,405 And if America really wants a democratic society, 1059 00:54:42,488 --> 00:54:45,783 then we should get to the bottom of this traumatic crime 1060 00:54:45,866 --> 00:54:49,328 that continues to reverberate throughout American history. 1061 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:51,205 [Sutherland] The Assassination 1062 00:54:51,288 --> 00:54:54,500 Records Review Board made many startling discoveries 1063 00:54:54,583 --> 00:54:56,669 in the four years of its existence. 1064 00:54:57,086 --> 00:54:59,880 In October of 2017, in compliance with 1065 00:54:59,964 --> 00:55:03,175 the JFK Records Act 25-year deadline, 1066 00:55:03,259 --> 00:55:04,468 President Trump said 1067 00:55:04,552 --> 00:55:07,346 unless he was in receipt of further information, 1068 00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:09,223 he would not block declassification 1069 00:55:09,306 --> 00:55:11,517 of the last of the files. 1070 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,518 Six months later, 1071 00:55:12,601 --> 00:55:15,021 he postponed releasing the last batch, 1072 00:55:15,104 --> 00:55:16,647 which the Review Board 1073 00:55:16,731 --> 00:55:19,567 had previously delayed from 1998. 1074 00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:22,319 This means that 56 years later, 1075 00:55:22,445 --> 00:55:25,531 the US government is still maintaining secrets 1076 00:55:25,614 --> 00:55:27,742 about the JFK case. 1077 00:55:28,492 --> 00:55:32,121 Can a democracy survive if it does not know 1078 00:55:32,204 --> 00:55:37,084 its deepest secrets about the darkest days of its past? 1079 00:55:38,210 --> 00:55:40,254 -Do you think there was any connection 1080 00:55:40,337 --> 00:55:44,216 between your father's assassination and your uncle's? 1081 00:55:44,425 --> 00:55:47,553 -I don't think anybody has connected all the dots. 1082 00:55:47,636 --> 00:55:49,180 There are dots there. 1083 00:55:49,263 --> 00:55:53,601 There are dots that look like certainly, um, that are, 1084 00:55:53,684 --> 00:55:56,562 uh, that we should be investigating. 1085 00:55:56,645 --> 00:56:01,150 And my father's death has never been investigated properly. 1086 00:56:01,233 --> 00:56:02,151 [cheering] 1087 00:56:02,234 --> 00:56:03,611 [Robert Kennedy] Because I think we can do better. 1088 00:56:03,694 --> 00:56:05,613 And I think we can do better around the rest of the globe. 1089 00:56:05,696 --> 00:56:08,365 I'm not going to be satisfied until that war is over, 1090 00:56:08,449 --> 00:56:10,409 and American soldiers are brought back in. 1091 00:56:10,493 --> 00:56:13,162 [cheering] 1092 00:56:14,163 --> 00:56:16,999 -I have therefore chosen this time and place 1093 00:56:17,917 --> 00:56:21,295 to discuss a topic on which ignorance too often abounds, 1094 00:56:22,379 --> 00:56:24,256 and the truth too rarely perceived, 1095 00:56:25,049 --> 00:56:29,720 and that is the most important topic on Earth: Peace. 1096 00:56:30,054 --> 00:56:31,597 What kind of a peace do I mean, 1097 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,724 and what kind of a peace do we seek? 1098 00:56:34,683 --> 00:56:36,435 Not a Pax Americana, 1099 00:56:37,478 --> 00:56:40,856 enforced on the world by American weapons of war, 1100 00:56:42,108 --> 00:56:43,734 not the peace of the grave, 1101 00:56:44,568 --> 00:56:46,529 or the security of the slave. 1102 00:56:47,613 --> 00:56:49,782 I am talking about genuine peace, 1103 00:56:50,825 --> 00:56:53,994 the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, 1104 00:56:55,287 --> 00:56:57,957 and the kind that enables men and nations to grow 1105 00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,250 and to hope 1106 00:56:59,667 --> 00:57:01,669 and build a better life for their children, 1107 00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:04,630 not merely peace for Americans, 1108 00:57:05,506 --> 00:57:07,383 but peace for all men and women. 1109 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:13,055 Not merely peace in our time, but peace in all time. 1110 00:57:52,011 --> 00:57:54,889 [โ™ชโ™ชโ™ช] 87552

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