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We're here today to go into the vault...
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where Orson Welles' last filmhas been kept
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for over 30 years now.
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Wow.
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This is really amazing.
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There! Peter in the car.
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-Peter. Car. Jake, Peter.
-Do you think that's...
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The story of how we completedOrson Welles' last unfinished movie,
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The Other Side of the Wind,
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is nearly as complicatedas the film itself.
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This is what we hope not to find.
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-Empty boxes.
-There's plenty of that.
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It's truly been a labor of love
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for so many people who volunteeredtheir time and energy
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to finally bring Orson's visionto the screen.
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And this is how we did it.
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Fireworks, everybody. Fireworks.
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For me, it all began in 1971
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in Carefree, Arizona.
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When I first arrived on the set
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of Other Side of the Wind, t really wasn't a set, it was a house,
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and Orson and Gary Graver and Oja and I,
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and Polly Platt,
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were all there making a movie.
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But because there were only four of us,
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we had to do everything.
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So, this is me doing the slate
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And this one is Orson and I
up on the rocks
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in the backyard at the Carefree house
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and there's my first job
on The Other Side of the Wind was
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to create these dummies.
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This is me...
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playing one of the, uh,documentary cameramen.
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I was also the accountant.
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We had a bank account in Gary and my name
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where I signed all the checks.
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We all did everything.
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We acted, we shot some of it,
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we built the sets,
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we were all living together,just like a family.
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We called it
a V.I.S.T.O.W. alert back in those days,
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Volunteers in Service to Orson Welles.
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Studio bus, scene four! Take one!
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It was like being on a film school movie
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where everybody just pitched in
and did everything.
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Please don't look up this way.Look at each other.
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Destroy scene twenty-two, take six.
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Action!
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Everybody who worked on the picture
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was dedicated to doing the best
they could for Orson Welles.
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-And rolling.
-Chabrol,
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one-six-six.
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Take one.
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People loved Orson.
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He could be difficult,
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but you had to love him.
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No, not looking down, Larry. Looking away.
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Looking away, Larry! Larry! Cut!
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Orson liked to fire me,
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because he usually had
to have somebody to blame
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when something didn't go right.
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A little further forward. Keep going...
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keep going... keep going...
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Cut. That shot was
rendered useless by Frank.
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I knew that if I just went back
to the hotel
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that somebody would call mewithin the next day
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and say, "Come on back."
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I think he was shooting and it was lunch.
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Orson just turned to me out of the blue,
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there was no conversation
leading up to it,
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and he just turned to me and said,
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"If anything ever happens to me,
I want you to promise me
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you'll finish the picture."
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And I said, "Jesus, Orson.
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Why do you say a thing like that?
Nothing's gonna happen to you."
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"I know.
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Nothing's gonna happen.
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But if it does...
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I want you to promise me
you'll finish the picture."
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"I will, of course I will, but..."
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"That's fine. We can drop the subject."
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That was it.
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So I never discussed it again.
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I just felt I owed Orson
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to make good on the promise.
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I didn't think we wouldn't do it,
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I just thought,
"When are we gonna get it done?"
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For several yearsafter Orson passed away in 1985,
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Gary Graver,Orson's longtime cinematographer
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was trying to get the moneyto finish the film.
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Then I started helping Gary
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and we had all kinds of people coming
in and out of the woodwork.
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Most of them were scaredby the chain of title.
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They all felt it was too risky.
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Especially because the original negativewas stuck in a lab in Paris.
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It was very frustrating,and we almost had the money a few times.
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Almost. People were
talking about it and...
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it went on for years.
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Years.
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I first became awareof The Other Side of the Wind
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in May of 2009.
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It seemed like
a very interesting pursuit to explore.
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After Orson died,
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a French judge ruled
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that the negatives be lockedunder court order.
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Nobody was able to figure outthe legal wrangle in France.
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I realized
that whoever controlled the negative
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will ultimately control the film.
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Nobody had seen the negative in Paris.
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Nobody knew whether it was dust or it was usable or, you know, what was there.
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The French court ruled
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that an agreement had to be reachedwith all three parties.
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So, Orson's daughter Beatrice had
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a claim on the rights there,
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as did Oja Kodar, Orson's co-creator,
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and then the Persians,
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at that point operating through theirFrench production company, Astrophore.
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You had these three units that all had to come together
to approve things,
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in order for us to get
the negative in Paris.
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I always believed it would happen,
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I just didn't know when.
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This was Orson Welles' last movie,
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the guy who made Citizen Kane.
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Filip was coming at it from one way,
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I was coming at it from another way,
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and we decided to pool our resources
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and go together and that's
when everything started to happen.
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However, before we gotall three rights' holders
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to finally sign off,
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the lab in Paris where the negativeswere stored went bankrupt.
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And all the elements were shipped out
to warehouses outside of Paris.
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We were able to find all of them,
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and they were scatteredacross a few different warehouses.
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It was definitely a relief to finally seeall the materials together
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in one place.
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To see the volume of materials.
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It was a mountain of film.
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Until we got into that vault,
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we were kind of clueless
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as far as how big the job was going to be
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to try and put this all together.
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Once we secured all the rights,
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the negative traveled from Paris to L.A.
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And then once the materialsarrive in Technicolor,
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we knew that now this was real
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and we could get down to work.
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Ooh, come in. This is negative.
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This is really old stuff.
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Look at that.
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Once we got the negative back,
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we were off to the races.
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We just didn't know
what we were getting into.
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It was like dredging up the Titanic.
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A scavenger hunt the whole way through.
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We had a very old,handwritten inventory from the '70s.
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There were, I believe, 1083 film elements.
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Step number one was to find everything,
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collect it, and then
to properly inventory it.
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Make sure that everything matched up
with those old records.
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We started to unravel and understand
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exactly how the film was prepared.
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Forty years in the making, this movie.
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And here it all is.
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We had to go backto a totally analog way of working.
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That meant finding a negative cutterto reassemble the negative,
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and there's no one better than Mo Henry.
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Mo's been doing this for awhile.
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And she'sa fourth-generation negative cutter.
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I'm a negative cutter
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and I have been for many years.
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And I'm one of a handful of people left
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who do this, as far as I know.
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So, like, "Something
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1975,
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second day sequence."
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This is its own animal. It's differentfrom anything else I've worked on.
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It's a combinationof many kinds of film stocks.
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35, 16 mm...
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lots of different items,
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so we're learning as we go.
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The other day I was going througha magnifying glass on this tiny film
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and I saw Orson holding the slate
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with his cigar in his mouth,
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and it was really exciting to see.I was really jazzed about it.
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Bus studio, scene 58, take two.
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Jaws was the first feature
I ever worked on
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and it was at Universal,
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and, according to my dad, at the time
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they thought it was gonnabe a huge bomb
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so they let me practice on it.
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So...
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I was really impressed
how beautifully kept this film was.
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So, Technicolor asked
that we assemble all of these rolls
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in key number order
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and these are the key numbers,
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which is kind of hard to read.
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So, I'm splicing a roll of negative
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to the leader.
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And then it's time for the cement.
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We lock it down and wait for 30 seconds.
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So, now the heat has dried the cement,
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and there's the splice.
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I have to do my workon these really old-fashioned machines,
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but the next step is very high-tech
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scanning machines.
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All of the datathat we've captured by hand
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goes back to Technicolor,
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and they take all of that information
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that we did with magnifying glasses
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and pencils,
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and then it becomesdata for their scanners.
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We're kind of the bridgebetween the film world
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and the digital world.
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These 85 boxes represent
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Orson's workprint.
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A workprint is a copyof the original negative,
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which Orson used to edit the film.
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It arrived today having made its wayfrom Zagreb, Croatia,
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where it had been for quite a few years.
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So we'll be slowly going through
the process of inventorying this
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and then ultimately
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matching it back up to the negative that is already out of pallets
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and, uh, sitting here behind me.
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So, the workprint here has takenan interesting journey.
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These were smuggled out
by Orson from Paris
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and taken to Rome.
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And then from Rome came to L.A.,
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and then Orsonwas editing these ultimately,
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uh, here in L.A. on his Moviola.
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So, this is the closest thing
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that he had
and had been working on for 15 years
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off and on, and so, um,
so this is basically, uh,
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the starting point for us.
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Orson once told me that the moviewas going to be like a painting
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with a frame around it.
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And the beautiful painting in the middle
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is the movie within the movie,
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which is shot in gorgeous 35 mm color.
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And then the frame around the picture
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was gonna be this night at,
uh, Jake's birthday.
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And the party would then be shot byall these different cameras and formats,
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and cut together in a kind of a frenzy,
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while still tellingthe story of the evening.
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-Mr. Hannaford! It's me.
-Happy birthday!
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Orson said,
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it was gonna be made upof all these different viewpoints,
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8 mm, 60 mm,
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all these different cameras.
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He said, "Imagine what fun
it'll be editing."
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Orson had, himself, edited
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total of about 40, 45 minutes.
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How much harm can you do to
the third biggest grosser
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in movie history?
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So, we had an idea from what he'd cut
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of how he saw the editing.
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Your friend there stands
to walk away with 40 million dollars.
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-Yeah, and she's gonna say that I'm--
-40 million dollars?
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The editing was so unique.
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Nobody had ever editedin this style before Orson,
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and it was a challenge
to find the right editor,
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somebody who understood this.
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When Peter and I sat downwith Bob, we knew
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this is our guy.
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Bob was somebody who had
a connection with Gary Graver,
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with the cinematographer.
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Get that spook outta here.
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Come on, you guy--
Hey, Mister, get outta here!
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When I moved to Studio City,
I became friends with Gary Graver,
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who was a cinematographer.
It turned out that he was living
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three houses down from me.
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First and foremost, I wanted to workon the movie because Gary was my friend,
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and I really knewhow much it meant to him.
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Like the way Gary wanted to
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get the movie done because of Orson,
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in a way I almost wanted
to get the movie done for Gary.
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Cut!
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For me, just getting started,
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I really wanted to doas much research as possible.
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Reading like every book
on Orson I could find,
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and the earliest versions of all thescripts and treatments and everything,
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as well as, like, lettersthat he was writing to the editors
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he was working with in Paris...
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Just to really kinda
get into his head and see
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where he was coming fromin that time period.
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I mean, it's forensics.
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You go back and you try to make sense of
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why did he leave things
the way that he left them.
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Mr. Hannaford?
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Mr. Hannaford?
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Old friends are old...
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and that's the trauma.
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We started our editorial process
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by digitizing the scenes Orsonhad cut himself.
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Then we strung them togetherand sat down and watched it.
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Picking up from where he left off,
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I mean, he left us with a mess.
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Hi, Matt.
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Remember me?
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Billy Boyle.
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That is one crazy movie.
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-Well yeah, it's several crazy movies.
-Several.
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It just-- it really feels disjointed.
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It's confusing. Yeah.
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It was just like--
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it seemed like such a mess, so unclear.
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And like everybody, I was like,
"Is there even a movie here?"
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-You see the movie itself.
-Yeah.
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You see the movie, yes,
that they're making, yes.
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The whole thing becomes a movie
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in front of that camera.
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There were no scene numbers,and not only that,
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but in some cases Orson reshot scenes.
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He blew it.
Must be all that candy he eats.
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Me?
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That felt really odd to me, like...
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It's all this kind of,
like, transitional scenes
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that I don't even think we really need.
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Yeah, I think we have to stay on point
as much as we can.
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At the end of the day when I started
cutting the movie, I just said,
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"I just wanna do what's best for the movie
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and let's just try to make it."
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Everything that Orson had fine cut,
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we used those as anchor points.
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And luckily those scenes appearthroughout the entire film.
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That, to us, was the framework.
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We tried to emulatethat style and that rhythm.
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And then, scenes
that were looser assemblies
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or just string-outs of shots...
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Zimmie? We oughta havea drink with Zimmie.
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We oughta have a drink with Zimmie.
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Orson would take one line
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and maybe have
three different versions of it,
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one after the other,
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and then obvi-- He was gonna pick
one of those.
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Nobody in the plural.
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Nobody in the plural.
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And then who in the particular?
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Mr. Otterlake, for instance? Mr. Otterlake, for instance?
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Well, it turns out
one of our biggest challenges
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was how to start the movie.
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The first line in the script
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is O.W. voiceover.
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Orson intended to narrate the opening.
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He never did the voiceover.
Unfortunately, we don't have it.
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But the informationthat he wrote for that introduction
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was very important to tell the audience.
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We thought
of just skipping it, but we couldn't
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because it sets everything up.
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So, Peter came up with this great idea.
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I said, "Well, I can do it
as Brooks Otterlake.
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I can do it as my-- as my character."
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"That's the car,
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or what was left of it after the accident.
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if it was an accident."
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So, I basically used Orson's words,
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I added about a paragraph
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to explain who I was
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and why I was doing this.
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"My name is Brooks Otterlake.
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For years I personally didn't wantthis document shown
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because, frankly,
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I didn't like the wayI came off in the piece."
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I had a feeling I could hear him laughing
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when I said the line about,
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"I didn't like the way I came out in it."
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But this rough magic, he here abjures.
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Take back that last. It doesn't fit.
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What does "abjure" mean?
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-You went to Harvard.-Give up.
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Is that a suggestion?
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Abjure. He knows what it means.
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It's odd to see myself
in my thirties acting,
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and, uh, in an Orson Welles film.
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Never.
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That scene...
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in the car where I said to him...
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What did I do wrong, Daddy?
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Huston wasn't there.
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It was Orson I was playing it to.
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His direction to me was,
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"It's us."
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Our revels...
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now are ended.
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You bet your sweet cheeks.
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This is a quarter inch full-track.
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Uh, it was originally recorded on a Nagra.
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The sound rolls consistof the daily production sound
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that were recorded each day.
That's why they call them dailies.
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Dawn, take six.
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-Quiet.
-Quiet!
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Action!
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Many happy returns.
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Wonderful, now look back at him.
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Same look again, just be looking at John.
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Without the frown, though. Relax totally.
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Relax your face. Sad, empty. Empty.
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Now, say, "Many happy returns,"so I hardly hear you.
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Many happy returns.
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Because Orson wasn't aroundfor me to interact with,
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hearing his direction on the sound
recordings was pretty invaluable.
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You pronounced it too carefully.
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Many happy returns.
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For instance, directing Norman Foster,
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who was not primarily an actor,he was primarily a director,
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was super-importantin trying to figure out
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how he was trying
to focus the performance.
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Don't move your head or anything.Just let it come out of you.
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It was great to be able to get a insight
into what he was trying to do.
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Many happy returns.
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-I heard you--
-Cut! That was beautiful.
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Okay, let's get to the movie, shall we?
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Once we had an assembly,
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I believe it was just shy of three hours,
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we needed to, at that point,
reference that back
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to over one hundred hoursof original negative scans.
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We were so lucky to find Video Gorillas.
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We're really a kind ofvirtual technology company,
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and this is our office in Studio City,
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in my garage.
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Computer vision basically isartificial intelligence
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that focuses on imagery.
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It's the same kind of technology
that's used with autonomous vehicles,
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and it's used to comparethe different frames
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and to create the end conform.
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If you look at this image right here,
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there are a number
of different interest points,
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and it doesn't matterthat the reference cut was cropped.
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Those interest points arethe same between these two things,
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and that's what the algorithm does.
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It's able to match those interest point,
and then basically determine
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a confidence that,
"Yes, this is the same frame."
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From a technical standpoint,
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we haven't worked
with this much footage before.
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It was something that actuallyforced us to innovate.
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There were 282.000 framesin the reference cut that we received,
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and we were lookingat basically eight million frames.
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There were two trillion frame compares.
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On average, we were comparing12 million frames, per second.
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That process took abouttwo and a half days of machine time.
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If a human being were to do it,
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it would probably take,
uh, eight, nine months to do.
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We often wondered how Orson, you know,
could have finished this film.
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In a way, technology has caught up
with the movie,
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because I think a lot of these problems
were insurmountable
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even 10 or 15 years ago.
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What if, Jane Fonda?
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I don't think
we could've ever finished the movie
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if we were only working on film
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It was kind of meant to be
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that it took this long,
because now we have the ability
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to put it all together and make it work.
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Orson probably would've finished the movie
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if he had been workingon the Avid back in those days,
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To be able to edit digitally,where you can mix up all the formats,
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build select rollsor do whatever you wanna do
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and immediately always
have access to your material.
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It would've been a huge boon for him.
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We're working with ILM
on a visual effects element shoot.
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These are shots that Orsondidn't get a chance to shoot.
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Orson always intended to get these shots
of the dummies exploding,
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but we never had the expertiseor the money to do them.
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So, I called my good friend John Knoll
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who's been up at ILMfor over thirty years and he's a genius
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at figuring out this kinda stuff.
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And John said,
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"Look, I- I'll do anything
to work on this movie.
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When do I get a chance
to collaborate with Orson Welles?"
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This very site isa very first stage and model shop
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for Industrial Light and Magic
in Northern California
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where they started work
on Empire Strikes Back.
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It's probably been about over 400 moviesthat have passed through this facility
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since 1978.
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We're shootin' five dummies.
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These little guys have just enough kick
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to get through the dummy's face.
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It's fun. We build things and blow 'em up.
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That's the fun part about the job.
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Roll camera.
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-Ready to go hot.
-OK, we're live.
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Okay, go hot.
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-Hot.
-And action!
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Ready and action!
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-What the hell are we doing?
-We're having a party.
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-Okay, good. Cut.
-And cut!
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Thank you very much. Do we have that?
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Once we had an assembly of the film,
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we realized that the film
would greatly benefit
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from a score,
something that would actually bind it.
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The first person who was brought upwas Michel Legrand.
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We felt that we should
go to Michel first because
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he'd worked with Orson, so he knew him.
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-Let me introduce you to Michel Legrand.
-Michel, how are you?
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-Peter.
-Peter, very nice meeting you.
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-Nice to meet you.
-Very happy to see you.
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I first met Michel
at the spotting session that we had.
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He'd just gotten off the plane from Paris,and he wanted to come in
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and just watch the film.
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My dreams are...
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to have music everywhere in the movie,
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from beginning to end.
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I would love to have the hook...
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We're in Malmedy, Belgium,just outside of Brussels.
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We are here recording the orchestral part
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of Michel Legrand's score.
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This process has beensomewhat unorthodox for us.
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Michel's been writingfor the past few months,
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and this is the very first timewe're hearing
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any of the music he's written.
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This score is super important,
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because it'll sort of
glue the movie together
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and give it a little
more of a through line.
512
00:27:56,925 --> 00:27:59,344
He really got the film within the film
513
00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:01,429
and what it should be
as far as musically goes
514
00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:04,224
and was quite unique
in the instruments that he used.
515
00:28:10,397 --> 00:28:11,564
He really brought
516
00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:16,569
this unique, avant-garde almost,
um, music to it.
517
00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:31,042
It's a very traditional score,but it's also very cutting edge,
518
00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:33,920
because it's mixing a lot of elementsof orchestra, jazz,
519
00:28:34,003 --> 00:28:35,964
big band, a lot of stand up bass.
520
00:28:42,178 --> 00:28:44,180
And really outrageous percussion.
521
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,730
It's kind of dissonant sounds.
522
00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:02,323
Just to create
a really cool tapestry of sound.
523
00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:22,552
We're here today at Studio Guillaume Tell
in the heart of Paris.
524
00:29:22,677 --> 00:29:25,638
We're moving on to traditional
Big Band style arrangement.
525
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:32,562
In the annotated script,
there was mention of jazz,
526
00:29:32,645 --> 00:29:34,314
specifically New Orleans jazz.
527
00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:42,947
Jazz is a integral partof Michel Legrand's score.
528
00:29:43,031 --> 00:29:44,616
Michel has a jazz background.
529
00:29:44,699 --> 00:29:46,910
Orson Welles always wanted
a jazz score for this movie.
530
00:29:59,714 --> 00:30:01,674
A lot of these cueswith the three-man trio
531
00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:03,593
are supposed to be a band playing
532
00:30:03,676 --> 00:30:05,470
somewhere at the party off-camera,
533
00:30:05,595 --> 00:30:07,180
you know, providing entertainment
for the party guests.
534
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:16,064
It's a really unusual score
for a super unusual movie.
535
00:30:24,531 --> 00:30:26,282
Sound is always important in a movie,
536
00:30:26,366 --> 00:30:28,243
but in this movie it was crucial.
537
00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:32,747
This is far bigger of a concern
than the film.
538
00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:36,751
This is gonna be one of the first
shooting days, that's when they started.
539
00:30:37,293 --> 00:30:40,213
A challenge came up in that we realized
540
00:30:40,296 --> 00:30:42,298
we didn't have
the original quarter-inch sound
541
00:30:42,382 --> 00:30:44,843
from all the production period in 1974,
542
00:30:44,926 --> 00:30:48,596
which is really the whole baseof the party scene.
543
00:30:51,307 --> 00:30:54,352
That meant going back to second
or third generation source.
544
00:30:55,895 --> 00:30:59,524
Not having the quarter inch tapes hasreally been a nightmare for us.
545
00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:04,946
So it's been a Herculean job
for the sound team.
546
00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:14,163
We have a normal process here
when we make the movies,
547
00:31:14,247 --> 00:31:16,416
but all of that was
out the window on this one.
548
00:31:16,499 --> 00:31:18,459
Just go right aheadand talk, Mr. Hannaford.
549
00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:19,627
Don't mind us.
550
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:23,006
The first time I heard
any of the film, I couldn't understand...
551
00:31:23,756 --> 00:31:25,258
...85 percent of what was being said.
552
00:31:25,341 --> 00:31:27,635
I couldn't trackthe story because of that.
553
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:28,636
You heard him. Let's get him out here.
554
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,805
And it seemed like
this was going to be overwhelming.
555
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,600
Mr. Hannaford, is the camera eyea reflection of reality?
556
00:31:33,683 --> 00:31:37,145
The dialogue was always the centerpiece,
because this is a dialogue driven movie.
557
00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:40,398
So we had to go and dig
very deep with our softwares
558
00:31:40,481 --> 00:31:42,317
and try to clean up that dialogue.
559
00:31:44,485 --> 00:31:46,446
Hey, you, Pocahontas!
560
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:49,282
Daniel Saxlid has done an amazing job
561
00:31:49,365 --> 00:31:51,367
so that the dialogue is audible.
562
00:31:51,451 --> 00:31:54,287
To listen to it in the beginning
and listen to it now,
563
00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:56,164
it's like two different movies.
564
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:59,167
-What're you doin' Billy, smoking?
-What does it look like?
565
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:01,419
You know, what you do
in a normal movie is,
566
00:32:01,628 --> 00:32:04,088
when you have a line
567
00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:06,549
that's got problems,
568
00:32:06,716 --> 00:32:09,135
uh, you do ADR, but obviously
569
00:32:09,677 --> 00:32:11,512
most of our actors are gone.
570
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:15,767
The old man is a destroyer.
571
00:32:16,684 --> 00:32:18,478
The old man is a destroyer.
572
00:32:18,561 --> 00:32:21,314
What are you gonna use if you don't have
the actor to replace their voice?
573
00:32:21,397 --> 00:32:22,690
You have to use voice-alikes.
574
00:32:22,774 --> 00:32:24,984
Does it matter? What'd you say?
575
00:32:25,985 --> 00:32:29,405
We had Anna Mackenzie,who brought in perfect sound-alikes,
576
00:32:29,489 --> 00:32:32,951
and Daniel tried to useas little as he could of it,
577
00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:36,371
sometimes he replaced a word,
sometimes half a line,
578
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:40,833
and used sound technologyto blend it to make it work.
579
00:32:45,046 --> 00:32:47,799
He wouldn't know his cineaste
from a hole in the ground.
580
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:49,842
No, probably a midget with a grudge.
581
00:32:50,343 --> 00:32:53,805
Danny Huston was really the star
of the show when it came to ADR.
582
00:32:53,888 --> 00:32:56,557
He wouldn't know his cineaste
from a hole in the ground.
583
00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:59,435
No, probably a midget with a grudge.
584
00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:01,688
Probably a midget with a grudge.
585
00:33:02,271 --> 00:33:04,315
Uh, one more time please
so I could hear it.
586
00:33:04,565 --> 00:33:09,904
What was strange was to see
my father projected on the screen.
587
00:33:12,031 --> 00:33:16,077
And then, um, say the words.
588
00:33:16,661 --> 00:33:19,122
Putting a little extra zing
in the 'ol lobster's claw, Brooksie.
589
00:33:19,205 --> 00:33:23,042
And then see my fatherspeak them back to me.
590
00:33:23,543 --> 00:33:26,295
Putting a little extra zingin the 'ol lobster's claw, Brooksie.
591
00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:30,216
Do the same for you.We, Imitation Hannafords,
592
00:33:30,466 --> 00:33:31,926
have got to stick together.
593
00:33:32,051 --> 00:33:34,679
The sound that we emit from our mouths
594
00:33:34,762 --> 00:33:36,597
is not dissimilar.
595
00:33:36,723 --> 00:33:40,393
And one that, uh, I can kind of fall into
596
00:33:40,518 --> 00:33:41,561
quite easily.
597
00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:44,856
I just think of my father
598
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,444
and I can find the "ah-has", and "action",
599
00:33:49,736 --> 00:33:50,778
"cut".
600
00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:53,072
What a party that was.
601
00:33:54,574 --> 00:33:55,825
What a party that was.
602
00:33:55,908 --> 00:33:58,911
Well, I remember
a doctor asking my father
603
00:33:58,995 --> 00:34:01,539
how many cigars he smoked
604
00:34:01,622 --> 00:34:04,459
and his resp- his reply was,
"As many as I can."
605
00:34:06,502 --> 00:34:08,337
Don't be pompous, Brooksie.
606
00:34:08,671 --> 00:34:11,049
You made his company all that loot.
607
00:34:12,592 --> 00:34:15,053
It's quite magical
608
00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:18,222
just connectingwith his voice, and it just
609
00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:20,641
brought him back to life.
610
00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:24,771
Don't give up the ship. Eh, Brooksie?
611
00:34:41,454 --> 00:34:45,416
That's the car.What was left of it after the accident.
612
00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,168
If it was an accident.
613
00:34:51,214 --> 00:34:53,007
Everybody who's worked on this film
614
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:56,803
was dedicated to Orson.
615
00:34:57,303 --> 00:34:59,097
And we were all doing it for him.
616
00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:02,350
Mr. Hannaford, is the camera eyea reflection of reality
617
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,936
or is reality a reflectionof the camera eye?
618
00:35:05,019 --> 00:35:06,604
For me, when I look back it's--
619
00:35:06,687 --> 00:35:08,523
I was learning how to be a producer,
620
00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:12,151
because I was solving problems,I was getting the film made,
621
00:35:12,235 --> 00:35:14,570
and I was servicing
the vision of the director.
622
00:35:17,907 --> 00:35:21,369
It just brings back
really good memories of being there and...
623
00:35:21,536 --> 00:35:24,539
and how exciting and creative
624
00:35:24,622 --> 00:35:28,126
and inspiring it was
to be there with Orson.
625
00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:37,051
Orson has been a part of my life
for such a long time,
626
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:38,886
that he'll always be a part of my life.
627
00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:42,640
I refer to him often, I quote him often,
628
00:35:42,723 --> 00:35:44,183
I miss him often.
629
00:35:46,644 --> 00:35:48,855
He's not somebody you get over.
630
00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:53,526
Or you don't wanna get over him.
You wish he was around.
631
00:35:53,609 --> 00:35:56,112
Darling, this marvelous bashyou're giving him,
632
00:35:56,195 --> 00:35:59,490
and if I understand,your whole idea was to get
633
00:35:59,574 --> 00:36:02,034
Jake Hannaford in touchwith the new generation.
634
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:05,538
Hopefully Orson will be happywherever he is
635
00:36:05,621 --> 00:36:07,456
knowing that the movie's done and, um,
636
00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:10,293
that we all worked and tried to make it
as good as we could do it.
637
00:36:13,963 --> 00:36:15,965
Honestly, it's gonna takea little bit of time
638
00:36:16,048 --> 00:36:17,008
for this to settle in.
639
00:36:17,091 --> 00:36:19,844
Very curious to see the film
with an audience,
640
00:36:19,927 --> 00:36:23,764
to see it with people who have no idea
who Orson Welles is.
641
00:36:25,641 --> 00:36:27,768
To see them introduced
642
00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:31,022
to a master's final film,
but also to his body of work.
643
00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:38,571
I feel like this movie needs to be seen,
644
00:36:38,654 --> 00:36:41,449
because it's Orson's
sort of last thoughts.
645
00:36:41,532 --> 00:36:44,827
Before any of you creeps
could put this stuff together,
646
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:46,829
we'll have our own movie.
647
00:36:46,954 --> 00:36:48,664
A real movie!
648
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,085
When I see the film,
I'm struck again by Orson's
649
00:36:53,502 --> 00:36:55,463
being so far ahead of his time.
650
00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:58,966
He's so far ahead of his time,
that 50 years after the picture was made,
651
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:00,218
he's still ahead of his time.
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