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SUSANA MARTINEZ-CONDE:
The brain is the biggest mystery
in science today.
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THALIA WHEATLEY:
It's responsible for all
the facets of our personality,
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everything we think
and everything we feel.
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It makes you you.
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URI MAOZ:
A very large fraction
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of what's happening in my brain
I am not aware of at all.
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HEATHER BERLIN:
But what exactly is going on
in your unconscious brain?
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What part of your brain
is really in charge?
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CHARLES LIMB:
All day long, we're doing
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unscripted things that we didn't
know we would be doing.
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(sizzling)
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Life is not scripted.
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MAOZ:
Find a word that has
some meaning for you.
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BERLIN:
So you might think
you've made a choice...
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Representation.
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BERLIN:
But in the back of your mind,
you wonder...
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Come on!
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BERLIN:
Was that really me?
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We might feel
like we're in control.
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ANIL SETH:
This idea that we're
in control of our actions
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seems critical to
our sense of identity.
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BERLIN:
But our brains
may have other ideas.
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BOBBY KASTHURI:
The brain is made of
almost 90 billion neurons,
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but it produces
this illusion
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that there's a single person
inside our skulls.
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LUKE CHANG:
For every Pinocchio,
there's always someone
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kind of pulling the strings
behind the scenes.
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(device beeps)
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MICHAEL GAZZANIGA:
There can be two separated minds
inside one system.
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WHEATLEY:
It's not just that motor,
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memory, language
is in the brain.
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Your personality is up there,
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your morality is up there.
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BIANCA JONES MARLIN:
We as humans know how
environment and traumatic events
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change people.
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BERLIN:
"Your Brain: Who's In Control?"
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Right now, on "NOVA."
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♪ ♪
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BERLIN:
Have you ever thought
that you've made
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a crystal-clear decision?
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(inner voice):
I'm just gonna watch
two episodes tonight.
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(narration):
But the next thing you know...
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(inner voice):
Okay, just one more episode.
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(laugh track playing)
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Actually,
it's time to go to bed.
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Well, I bet everyone else has
already finished this season.
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(static hissing,
laugh track plays)
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Wait, why am I
still watching this?
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(narration):
Well, of course,
the answer lies in
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your brain.
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Your brain contains multitudes.
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It's a complex and intricate
three-pound piece of matter.
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But you actually
have no awareness
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of most of the things
that are going on
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inside your brain.
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I'm neuroscientist and clinical
psychologist Heather Berlin.
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(laughs)
Come on, man!
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BERLIN:
And I'm on a journey to discover
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what's really driving
the decisions you make?
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(device clicks)
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No agency at all.
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Who or what
is really in control?
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There are important
unconscious processes
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in your brain
that you're not aware of.
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Most of the time,
the brain is a coordinated,
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well-oiled machine,
with different brain regions
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working together in harmony.
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(audio distorting):
But under certain circumstances,
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when things are out of sync,
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we can gain deeper insight
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into how the
brain actually works.
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(wildlife chirping)
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There's one thing
we do every day
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with little to no
conscious control.
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It's something you might spend a
whole third of your life doing:
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sleeping.
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When we sleep, we're supposed
to be unconscious and at rest.
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But for some people,
that's not always the case.
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(mumbling)
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BERLIN:
These are people who sleepwalk.
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MAN:
Just like, just like you were?
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EMMANUEL DURING:
Sleepwalking is a glitch
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in the system,
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because our identity is not
in control.
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And that's what a lot
of my patients
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tell me, like, they,
"I didn't do that.
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"That's not possible.
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This is not me."
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So, sleepwalking?
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Very common condition
or phenomenon.
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Simply said,
it's what the word is.
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You sleep,
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but during your sleep,
you will walk.
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We take it for granted, right?
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But the walking
is extremely complex.
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Just teaching a robot
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all the inputs and outputs
for a body
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to move forward on two legs
without falling.
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All of this,
you don't even think about it.
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It works independently.
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BERLIN:
How is it possible to do
complex behaviors like walking,
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eating, and sometimes
even driving while sleeping?
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To find out,
I'm visiting a sleep center
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at the Icahn School of Medicine
at Mount Sinai.
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So, tell me a little bit
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about what's happening
with you at night
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and your sleepwalking.
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Well, I've been
doing some weird things.
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I painted a wall
in my living room
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and one in my kitchen.
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I made a triangle,
a perfect triangle...
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What?
...in my kitchen.
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So what do you think
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when you find that?
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Like...
I don't know.
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Just-- I laugh,
because I go,
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"How the heck I did this?"
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BERLIN:
Emmanuel During studies
what's going on in the brain
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when someone sleepwalks.
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In the center, sleep patients
are wired up with sensors
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that pick up
eye and body movements--
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as well as their brain waves--
while they sleep.
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So what are we
looking at here,
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these blue lines?
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DURING:
These are the eye movements.
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Okay, and then the,
the black lines here?
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These are the brain waves.
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So this patient is obviously,
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he's lying in bed.
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Mm-hmm.
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And dozes off slowly,
feels sleepy.
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And as we move on,
he dives into
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deep slow-wave sleep.
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BERLIN:
During sleep, your brain
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cycles through phases of
high and low activity.
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When the brain waves slow down,
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scientists call this
"deep sleep."
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But when someone sleepwalks...
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First of all,
everything looks good.
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You see the brainwaves.
Mm-hmm.
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Everything is very,
very monotonous,
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sort of slow waves.
Mm-hmm.
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And then it's interesting,
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since there's a buildup of
slow wave,
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that the amplitude goes up,
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and then suddenly...
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Whoa.
So he's seemingly awake.
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Sudden.
Yeah.
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Looks like a sudden arousal.
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Looks sort of scared.
I mean, very brief.
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Very fast, eyes open.
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There's a,
sort of a split, then.
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BERLIN:
The patient looks like
they're awake.
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But a couple of key brain
regions seem to stay asleep.
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DURING:
There's part of the brain
stays in slow-wave sleep.
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It's such a deep stage of, of
sleep, it's hard to wake up,
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and the other part of
the brain is already awake.
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BERLIN:
One part of the brain
that doesn't wake up during
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sleepwalking is called
the prefrontal cortex.
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It's the region of the brain
responsible for
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deliberate choices and
self-awareness.
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DURING:
This prefrontal cortex
is the decision maker.
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The other areas of the brain
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can mostly work
independently of that.
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So, essentially,
so many parts of the brain
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can be engaged without
conscious awareness of it.
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BERLIN:
During sleepwalking,
the motor cortex,
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which controls movement,
the visual cortex,
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which processes
visual information,
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and the parts of the brain
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that coordinate behaviors
like balance and speech
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can all become active
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without engaging
the prefrontal cortex.
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MAN:
And what exactly are you doing,
ma'am?
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It's a special code.
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MARTINEZ-CONDE:
Experiences of sleepwalking
reveal that being conscious
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is not an all-or-none
situation.
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Our unconscious makes a lot of
everyday decisions for us.
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NANCY KANWISHER:
For starters, boring stuff,
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like regulating your heart rate
and your temperature
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and deciding when to take the
food in your stomach
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and move it down into your gut.
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Like, thank God we don't have to
be aware of all that stuff.
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DANIELA SCHILLER:
Motor function,
sensory function,
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motor-sensory integration,
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memory representation.
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All of this is happening
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below the surface, like the
inside of a clockwork.
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(man mumbling)
BERLIN:
When you sleepwalk,
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the brain regions that
control your movement, vision,
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and breathing can get up to
all kinds of mischief
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without you even knowing it.
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But there's one case where even
those regions check out--
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during anesthesia.
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We know that there are drugs
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that I can give you,
anesthetics,
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that would remove
your conscious experience.
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SETH:
And we all know that
consciousness comes in degrees.
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Like, we can lose consciousness
in sleep,
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but then we lose it
in a more profound way
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when we are under
general anesthesia.
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BERLIN:
When I was a young researcher
working in anesthesiology,
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I saw this firsthand.
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So what happens to your brain
activity when you go under?
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Neuroscientist Emery Brown
is measuring the line
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that separates being conscious
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from being unconscious.
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BROWN:
I want to guarantee my patients
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that when I say
you're unconscious,
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you're not going to perceive
pain,
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you won't be moving around,
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you won't remember
anything that's occurring.
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Your heart rate
and blood pressure
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and other physiological systems
will be well-controlled.
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BERLIN:
The patient is undergoing
surgery.
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But before
the surgeons can operate,
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the anesthesiologists
have to put her under--
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render her unconscious
with special drugs.
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WOMAN:
I'm starting to
give you medicines
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that might make
you feel kind of drowsy.
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BROWN:
Look straight ahead.
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Look straight ahead.
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See, her eyes move
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as we expect them to move.
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So you're moving her head,
but her eyes stay straight.
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WOMAN:
All right, now we're
going to have you breathe
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a little oxygen.
BROWN: Breathe some oxygen
for a minute.
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And can you
see my finger here?
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Follow it with your eyes.
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And if you can't follow it
anymore, tell me, all right?
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Can you hear me?
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See her eyes are fixed now?
BERLIN: Yeah.
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You see the E.E.G. has
a large, slow oscillation?
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See that?
BERLIN:
Yeah, yeah.
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BROWN:
Her brain stem is out.
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BERLIN:
It's out, that's it?
BROWN: Mm-hmm.
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BERLIN:
When you go under,
it can feel like
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one second you're here,
and the next,
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you're out.
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What's going on in
the brain when this happens?
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Emery uses
a device called an E.E.G.,
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a set of electrodes
that rests on the scalp
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and detects electrical activity
in the brain.
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That activity comes
in the form of waves.
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BROWN:
The brain generates
brain waves or oscillations.
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And there are oscillations
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that we typically see
when someone's conscious.
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BERLIN:
These brain waves are
measured by their frequency,
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how fast
the waves come and go,
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and by their amplitude,
how small or big the waves are.
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BROWN:
I look at your E.E.G.
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When you're awake,
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you're going to have
a very rich response.
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When I anesthetize you,
it goes away.
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And so the difference
between those two states
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represents the transition
from being conscious
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to the unconscious.
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See the oscillations,
see how they're
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really big now.
BERLIN:
Yeah.
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And before, see, they were
just sort of little...
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Yeah, exactly.
Kind of, yeah.
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(talking in background)
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BERLIN:
When you're awake and
fully aware,
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your brain wave activity is
diverse and dynamic.
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It looks kind of like
an exciting conversation.
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But when anesthesia drugs
hit the brain,
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the activity
is dramatically reduced
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to dull, slow-rolling
brain waves.
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The once dynamic conversation
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becomes
an unintelligible hum.
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BROWN:
If you alter how
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the parts of the brain
communicate sufficiently,
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you can make
someone unconscious.
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So that's what
the drugs are doing.
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They're altering the way
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the various parts
of the brain communicate.
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BERLIN:
There's one region of the brain
in particular that acts as
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a communication hub:
the thalamus.
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It's made up of two parts,
each about the size of a walnut,
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and sits deep inside your brain.
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BROWN:
Thalamus is a
central way station
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for all sorts of
information processing.
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Auditory information
goes through there,
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visual information
goes through there,
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pain information
goes through there.
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If I could take out
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just one brain center
to make you unconscious,
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it would probably be
the thalamus,
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because
it's such a central actor
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in processing
all types of information.
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BERLIN:
After a couple of hours
of surgery,
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the medical team is tapering
off the anesthesia drugs.
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And the E.E.G. reveals the
patient's brain wave activity
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becoming more complex
as she wakes up.
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ANTHONY:
She's starting to take
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some breaths on her own.
BROWN:
Yeah.
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ANTHONY:
Open your eyes wide.
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And squeeze my hand.
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BROWN:
Consciousness is really having
active cognitive processing,
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being able to think and act.
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ANTHONY:
Surgery's all done, okay?
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BROWN:
It's the integration
of that information
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which allows us
to start to understand
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how consciousness
is actually formed.
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KASTHURI:
Consciousness can obviously
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interact with the physical world
like we can.
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We can use drugs to remove it.
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We go to sleep and
we're not conscious, and yet,
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it's tenuous at the same time.
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We can't say how any
specific set of neurons
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working together
produces consciousness.
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REBECCA SAXE:
It's so clear that anesthesia
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is some kind of change of
consciousness, right?
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The whole brain is there,
the pieces are there,
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but the messages
aren't getting through
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in a way that makes for
our conscious experience.
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(static hissing,
beeps distorting)
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And that's
the difference between
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being aware
and not being aware.
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BERLIN:
So the level of communication
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among brain regions
is one difference
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between being conscious
and being unconscious.
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That means that no
single area of the brain
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is responsible
for your consciousness.
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It's that communication
that helps make you you.
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MAN:
Now, let's remember
that the left hand
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is governed from
the right hemisphere.
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BERLIN:
For some people,
an entire half of their brain
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can't really
communicate with the rest.
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These are people who have
undergone split-brain surgery,
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and it's as if...
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(audio doubled):
They have two minds
in a single brain.
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MAN:
Now the question becomes,
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what happens when you allow
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both hands together to
try to solve the problem?
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And what we find out is
that they fight over each other.
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One hand knows how to do it
and one hand does not,
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and so they more or less
squabble.
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The human brain contains
two sides,
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the left hemisphere and the
right hemisphere, right?
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And they are connected by a big
bundle of fibers.
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It's called the corpus callosum.
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All the communication
from one side of the brain
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to the other has to pass
through this fiber bundle.
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BERLIN:
For some people with epilepsy,
a seizure in one hemisphere
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can quickly spread to the other
by way of the corpus callosum.
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But if that bridge
is surgically severed,
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a seizure can no longer cross
to the other side of the brain.
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In addition to
treating epilepsy,
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these surgeries
have also led
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to some astounding research into
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how the two hemispheres
function.
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MILLER:
With your left hand,
make me the a-okay sign.
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(woman laughs)
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BERLIN:
To learn more about these
fascinating studies,
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I met two pioneers
in the field:
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Michael Miller
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and Michael Gazzaniga.
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Michael Miller asked me
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to step into his lab
to do a few simple tests,
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just like the ones
he's conducted with patients
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after split-brain surgery.
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So, Heather,
what you're going to see
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are two shapes.
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They're going
to come up on the screen.
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♪ ♪
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You're gonna draw the shape
on the left side of the screen
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with your left hand,
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and the shape on the right side
of the screen
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with your right hand.
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And I want you to draw them
as quickly as you can
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at the same time.
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Okay?
(laughs): Okay.
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BERLIN: Piece of cake, right?
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(device beeps)
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Oh...
MILLER:
Beautiful.
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(laughs)
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Okay, not sure what you were
drawing over here, but...
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(laughs)
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(device beeps)
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Oh. (chuckles)
(laughing): Okay.
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Did I mention I didn't get
that much sleep last night?
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(laughs)
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BERLIN:
The left side of the brain
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controls most of
the right side of the body.
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And the right side
of the brain
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controls most of the left side
of the body.
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(all laughing)
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What happened is, I started out
trying to do different things,
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and then they just sort of,
like, sync up together.
MILLER: Yeah, yeah.
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♪ ♪
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(laughs)
Come on, man.
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MILLER:
It's perfectly normal.
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So, I mean, what's happening
is that the motor commands
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in the, in one hemisphere...
Right.
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...are interfering
with the motor commands
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in the other hemisphere.
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BERLIN:
It was basically impossible
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for me to force my hands
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to draw two different things
at the same time.
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But for someone whose
two hemispheres
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are disconnected,
there's no interference.
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It's almost as if there's
one mind
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controlling the left hand,
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and a completely different
mind controlling the right hand.
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And it isn't just movement
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that's split
across the hemispheres.
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Only half of your visual field
goes to each side of the brain.
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MILLER:
When you're looking
straight ahead,
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everything to the
left side of that space
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goes only to
the right hemisphere.
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And the opposite is true
for the right side of the space.
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GAZZANIGA:
The left part of the brain
is where your language
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and speech centers are.
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That enables you to talk,
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enables you to understand
language, and all the rest.
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And the right side of your brain
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is very important in
the evaluation of emotions,
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evaluation of visual space.
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I'm going to give you a test.
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MAN: If you look
right at my nose,
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I'm going to hold
up my hands.
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You tell me how many fingers
you see, all right?
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GAZZANIGA:
How many fingers do you see?
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You see two, right?
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Why did you see two?
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(chuckling):
This one went to
your left hemisphere,
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this one went to
your right hemisphere,
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way over in the
other side of your brain.
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How does your left
hemisphere know about it?
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That pathway,
the corpus callosum.
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It transfers that information.
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Now I'm going
to split your brain,
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and I do the same test.
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How many fingers do I see?
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WOMAN:
Two.
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You see anything else?
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No.
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Okay.
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You see one,
you see this one,
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because that goes straight to
your left, talking hemisphere.
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This one is still going
to your right hemisphere,
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which has now been
disconnected from your left.
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So your left brain
can't talk about this.
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So you now say
you only see one finger,
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even though your right brain
is seeing this finger.
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It just can't talk about it,
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because the highway that
communicates that information
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has been cut.
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Show me with your right hand
what you see.
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Two.
Okay.
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Put it down,
relax.
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Show me with your left hand
what you see.
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One.
Good.
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MILLER:
It's the most remarkable thing
to witness.
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You know, there's this
whole other entity
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in the head that's
controlling the body
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and can understand
and remember
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and feel and think
all on its own,
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completely separate
from the other side.
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BERLIN:
The researchers conducted tests
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to explore how
a split-brain patient's
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two hemispheres
work independently
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from one another--
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including a now-famous
experiment
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of a patient named Joe.
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GAZZANIGA:
Look right at the dot.
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BERLIN:
By quickly flashing a word
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to just the left side of his
visual field...
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(device beeps)
GAZZANIGA:
See anything?
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BERLIN:
...that word would go
exclusively
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to the right half of his brain,
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the half that can't talk.
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So the only way we're
going to know that it registered
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is if he can
write something out, okay?
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With his hand that is controlled
by his right hemisphere.
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Exactly, his left hand.
The left hand.
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GAZZANIGA:
We flash the word "Texas."
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GAZZANIGA:
Look right at the dot.
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See anything?
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There's a flash.
All right.
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00:20:40,966 --> 00:20:42,833
I didn't see the word.
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His right hemisphere
is seeing it.
500
00:20:45,366 --> 00:20:47,733
GAZZANIGA:
We're seeing it,
but the right hemisphere,
501
00:20:47,733 --> 00:20:50,133
at this point in his surgery,
502
00:20:50,133 --> 00:20:52,000
cannot talk.
Right.
503
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:58,133
GAZZANIGA:
All right, I want you to
draw for me that thing
504
00:20:58,133 --> 00:21:00,700
upside down.
505
00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:03,033
BERLIN:
So he claims to not have
seen anything.
506
00:21:03,033 --> 00:21:05,366
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
507
00:21:05,366 --> 00:21:06,933
(laughs)
Wow.
508
00:21:06,933 --> 00:21:09,766
BERLIN: He was able
to do Texas upside down.
GAZZANIGA: Yeah.
509
00:21:09,766 --> 00:21:12,033
MILLER:
But what's interesting is, he
had no idea what he's drawing.
510
00:21:12,033 --> 00:21:13,966
MILLER:
We know because we saw the word.
511
00:21:13,966 --> 00:21:16,000
JOE (chuckling):
I can't tell what it is.
512
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,566
BERLIN:
Wow.
513
00:21:17,566 --> 00:21:19,166
GAZZANIGA: So then, later on,
I show him the word again
514
00:21:19,166 --> 00:21:20,733
and I ask a different question
515
00:21:20,733 --> 00:21:23,166
about what he saw.
516
00:21:23,166 --> 00:21:25,133
BERLIN:
Once again, they showed
the word "Texas"
517
00:21:25,133 --> 00:21:28,466
to just his right,
non-verbal hemisphere.
518
00:21:28,466 --> 00:21:30,800
So when asked about what he saw,
519
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,633
all his left
hemisphere can say is...
520
00:21:33,633 --> 00:21:36,033
I'm aware of a word,
I just didn't see what it was.
521
00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:39,866
GAZZANIGA (in video):
Draw something that goes
with that.
522
00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:41,900
A symbol of that.
523
00:21:43,833 --> 00:21:45,233
BERLIN:
Oh, wow,
524
00:21:45,233 --> 00:21:46,300
so he draws a cowboy hat.
MILLER:
Yeah, clearly...
525
00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:47,900
Yeah, clearly, his right
hemisphere
526
00:21:47,900 --> 00:21:49,900
knows exactly
what he's drawing.
Wow.
527
00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:52,100
But his left
is still confused,
528
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:53,633
so he doesn't understand it.
Right.
529
00:21:53,633 --> 00:21:55,333
GAZZANIGA:
What's that?
530
00:21:55,333 --> 00:21:56,966
Cowboy hat.
531
00:21:56,966 --> 00:21:58,233
Cowboy hat?
532
00:21:58,233 --> 00:22:00,700
What was the word?
533
00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:01,833
(whispering):
So amazing.
JOE (in video): Texas.
534
00:22:01,833 --> 00:22:03,033
(laughing):
I can't believe it.
535
00:22:03,033 --> 00:22:06,633
GAZZANIGA:
Did you see "Texas"?
No.
536
00:22:06,633 --> 00:22:10,233
GAZZANIGA:
The split-brain phenomenon
suggests that there can be
537
00:22:10,233 --> 00:22:12,566
two separated minds,
if you will,
538
00:22:12,566 --> 00:22:14,300
inside of a skull.
539
00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:18,400
The cooperation is on the paper,
not inside the head.
540
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,333
It's an astounding example
541
00:22:20,333 --> 00:22:24,266
of cross-cueing and management
of two mental systems
542
00:22:24,266 --> 00:22:26,000
into one unified act.
543
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,233
And the idea is
544
00:22:28,233 --> 00:22:31,633
maybe that's going on in us
all the time, too.
545
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:36,400
KANWISHER:
Each of us has a sense
that we're a unitary being,
546
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,333
but actually,
that belies the fact
547
00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:40,333
that each of us,
each of our minds,
548
00:22:40,333 --> 00:22:42,466
is actually composed of
lots of different pieces
549
00:22:42,466 --> 00:22:43,700
that are doing different things.
550
00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:45,833
And different information
can be represented
551
00:22:45,833 --> 00:22:48,166
in different
parts of that machinery.
552
00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:52,866
And so a search for
"where am I in all of this?"
553
00:22:52,866 --> 00:22:53,866
is a little bit misguided,
554
00:22:53,866 --> 00:22:55,766
because the "I" is not
555
00:22:55,766 --> 00:22:57,900
such a unitary thing in the
first place.
556
00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:02,900
KASTHURI:
That feeling of unity, of "me,"
is actually distributed
557
00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:05,866
across almost
90 billion neurons.
558
00:23:05,866 --> 00:23:09,166
This illusion that there's a
single person
559
00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:10,700
inside our skulls.
560
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:12,333
♪ ♪
561
00:23:12,333 --> 00:23:16,166
BERLIN:
Inside your brain are
over 100 distinct regions.
562
00:23:16,166 --> 00:23:18,766
Many different
systems in the brain
563
00:23:18,766 --> 00:23:20,533
control what you do,
from movement,
564
00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:24,733
to vision, to speech, and
even social interaction.
565
00:23:26,066 --> 00:23:28,900
MAHZARIN BANAJI:
I think most human
beings like to believe
566
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:31,933
that their mind is
under their own control.
567
00:23:31,933 --> 00:23:34,433
If I want to,
I can stand up right now.
568
00:23:34,433 --> 00:23:35,666
I can do that.
569
00:23:35,666 --> 00:23:39,400
And that gives me, I think,
the false belief
570
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,000
that everything I do
has been chosen by me.
571
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,900
And if there is a story
from the brain to tell,
572
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:46,500
it is that we are quite wrong.
573
00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:48,700
BERLIN:
Not only are there
multiple parts
574
00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:51,000
of your brain
influencing you,
575
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,966
but there are things
in the world around you
576
00:23:52,966 --> 00:23:55,500
that influence your brain,
577
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:57,700
including other people.
578
00:23:57,700 --> 00:24:00,933
SAXE:
How we act and who we are
in our lives
579
00:24:00,933 --> 00:24:03,400
is hugely determined by
580
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,400
the expectations of
the people around us.
581
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,333
The brain helps us be the most
social species on the planet.
582
00:24:09,333 --> 00:24:13,700
A lot of our brains are devoted
to understanding other people.
583
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:17,100
SCHILLER:
Our brain doesn't
operate in isolation.
584
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:21,233
We constantly learn, take,
compare to other brains.
585
00:24:21,233 --> 00:24:24,066
CHANG:
Our brains have evolved
to be able to
586
00:24:24,066 --> 00:24:27,833
effortlessly reason about
other people.
587
00:24:27,833 --> 00:24:29,966
And emotions,
similarly, have evolved
588
00:24:29,966 --> 00:24:31,833
as ways that guide our behavior.
589
00:24:31,833 --> 00:24:35,166
BERLIN:
So, how exactly do emotions--
590
00:24:35,166 --> 00:24:39,000
and the emotions of others--
influence our brains?
591
00:24:40,466 --> 00:24:42,533
Neuroscientist
Luke Chang studies how
592
00:24:42,533 --> 00:24:46,566
emotions like greed and guilt
affect our decision-making.
593
00:24:46,566 --> 00:24:48,766
MAN:
Hey, Grace, we're going to
start up the scout.
594
00:24:48,766 --> 00:24:50,533
GRACE (on speaker):
Okay.
595
00:24:50,533 --> 00:24:53,000
Go ahead
and make your decision.
596
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,066
(softly):
Okay, did you tell her to
go on to the next one?
597
00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:55,100
MAN:
Yep, you can hit next.
598
00:24:57,366 --> 00:24:59,633
BERLIN:
So, what are you guys
looking at here?
599
00:24:59,633 --> 00:25:01,233
What's this study about?
Is there...
600
00:25:01,233 --> 00:25:03,100
So she's playing
an investment game...
601
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:05,000
Okay.
...with another
participant,
602
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,833
who's outside the scanner.
603
00:25:06,833 --> 00:25:10,800
BERLIN:
Luke scans the brains
of study participants
604
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,300
while they play a game
from behavioral economics
605
00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:15,066
called the Trust Game.
606
00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:17,900
CHANG:
This is a cooperative game
607
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:20,633
where one person
has some sum of money,
608
00:25:20,633 --> 00:25:22,433
and they can choose to
invest any amount of that money
609
00:25:22,433 --> 00:25:23,800
in their partner.
610
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,800
BERLIN:
That investment grows.
611
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,333
So then, the study participant
has to decide:
612
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:34,433
they could be greedy
and keep all the money
613
00:25:34,433 --> 00:25:36,600
or they could be generous,
614
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,700
and give some of
the investment back.
615
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,433
♪ ♪
616
00:25:40,433 --> 00:25:42,766
CHANG:
We've always been
really interested in,
617
00:25:42,766 --> 00:25:45,266
why do people return the money
when they don't have to?
618
00:25:45,266 --> 00:25:48,400
And guilt provides
one plausible mechanism
619
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,100
that might be
driving their behavior
620
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,366
to act cooperatively
in this game.
621
00:25:53,533 --> 00:25:55,933
BERLIN:
And so you're balancing
making these decisions
622
00:25:55,933 --> 00:25:59,066
between getting that
kind of dopamine reward hit
623
00:25:59,066 --> 00:26:01,066
from being a little selfish
624
00:26:01,066 --> 00:26:05,200
versus being balanced by
those feelings of, maybe, guilt
625
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,033
when you're not cooperating
or helping somebody else out.
626
00:26:09,166 --> 00:26:12,266
BERLIN:
And the brain scans
reveal which parts of the brain
627
00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:16,100
are most active when
someone is feeling guilt.
628
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,366
CHANG:
Those regions ended up being
629
00:26:17,366 --> 00:26:18,466
something called the insula.
630
00:26:18,466 --> 00:26:21,366
Signals about having
this gut feeling
631
00:26:21,366 --> 00:26:23,533
that maybe this isn't
a good idea,
632
00:26:23,533 --> 00:26:25,066
or, "I'd feel really bad if
I did that."
633
00:26:25,066 --> 00:26:27,066
Those are the signals that
originate from the insula
634
00:26:27,066 --> 00:26:30,500
that allow us to make decisions
to avoid harming someone else.
635
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,133
♪ ♪
636
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:35,366
BERLIN:
Luke likes to think of it kind
of like a thermometer
637
00:26:35,366 --> 00:26:37,466
and a thermostat.
638
00:26:37,466 --> 00:26:38,766
CHANG:
If you try to think about how
639
00:26:38,766 --> 00:26:40,633
a thermostat might be mapped
onto the brain,
640
00:26:40,633 --> 00:26:43,900
one region might
be more like the thermometer,
641
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,466
detecting the ambient
temperature in the room.
642
00:26:46,466 --> 00:26:49,000
BERLIN:
When it comes
to reading the room,
643
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,800
our brain's thermometer
seems to be the insula.
644
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,166
But all that information
needs to go somewhere else
645
00:26:55,166 --> 00:26:57,733
and be integrated with
other types of information.
646
00:26:57,733 --> 00:27:00,433
BERLIN:
That's our brain's thermostat--
647
00:27:00,433 --> 00:27:02,800
a region located
inside the prefrontal cortex
648
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,200
that processes our emotions and
helps regulate our behavior.
649
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,433
And while your thermostat can
usually help you
650
00:27:09,433 --> 00:27:11,566
take control of your emotions,
651
00:27:11,566 --> 00:27:15,500
what would happen if it went
out?
652
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,466
♪ ♪
653
00:27:17,466 --> 00:27:20,900
CHANG:
There's a famous
patient named Phineas Gage.
654
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:22,666
WHEATLEY:
Phineas Gage was a railroad
foreman
655
00:27:22,666 --> 00:27:24,100
who was working in Vermont,
656
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:30,266
and he was tamping down
a hole that had gunpowder in it,
657
00:27:30,266 --> 00:27:31,800
and the gunpowder ignited,
658
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,666
sending the rod through his eye,
up through his brain,
659
00:27:34,666 --> 00:27:39,800
taking out a big patch
of his brain in the process.
660
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,333
At first people thought,
well, this is a miracle.
661
00:27:42,333 --> 00:27:45,666
This man has been
unscathed from this accident.
662
00:27:45,666 --> 00:27:50,433
He had memory, he had language,
he had motor control.
663
00:27:50,433 --> 00:27:52,600
But of course, his friends
noticed a difference.
664
00:27:53,733 --> 00:27:56,000
CHANG:
His life fell apart-- he had
a hard time holding a job,
665
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,166
he lost all of his friends,
and he really just struggled.
666
00:28:01,166 --> 00:28:03,600
WHEATLEY:
His personality
made him more fitful,
667
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,433
irreverent, more profane.
668
00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:07,766
He was cursing a lot,
lewd behavior.
669
00:28:07,766 --> 00:28:09,166
So he had sort of no filter.
670
00:28:09,166 --> 00:28:11,900
We now know that the parts
of the brain
671
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:14,700
that he sort of surgically
excised
672
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:18,233
were involved in emotion
and control.
673
00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:21,833
BERLIN:
Over a hundred years later,
674
00:28:21,833 --> 00:28:24,300
neuroscientists mapped
the regions of his brain
675
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:27,566
that were harmed
in that horrific accident.
676
00:28:27,566 --> 00:28:29,966
Areas of his prefrontal
cortex,
677
00:28:29,966 --> 00:28:32,800
including the brain's
thermostat, were damaged,
678
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,233
which might account for
why he struggled socially.
679
00:28:35,233 --> 00:28:37,733
He couldn't regulate his
emotions
680
00:28:37,733 --> 00:28:42,166
or process how other people
might react to his behavior.
681
00:28:42,166 --> 00:28:46,700
WHEATLEY:
And that was the key moment, I
think, in neuroscience history
682
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,933
when people realized,
683
00:28:48,933 --> 00:28:51,300
oh, it's not just that motor,
memory,
684
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:53,233
language is in the brain.
685
00:28:53,233 --> 00:28:55,733
Your personality is up there,
your morality is up there,
686
00:28:55,733 --> 00:28:59,366
things that make you you
are there.
687
00:28:59,366 --> 00:29:03,133
BERLIN:
I think we all kind of know
intuitively that emotions
688
00:29:03,133 --> 00:29:05,533
impact our decisions.
689
00:29:05,533 --> 00:29:08,266
So what sort of extra
information is this giving us?
690
00:29:08,266 --> 00:29:10,266
CHANG:
In a lot of the scientific work
691
00:29:10,266 --> 00:29:12,333
that's been done on studying
emotion in decision making,
692
00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:14,233
people have really focused on
693
00:29:14,233 --> 00:29:16,000
how emotions lead us to make
worse decisions,
694
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,233
maybe even irrational.
695
00:29:18,233 --> 00:29:20,433
And I actually
don't think that's true.
696
00:29:20,433 --> 00:29:22,633
If you have a goal
to not want to harm others
697
00:29:22,633 --> 00:29:25,533
and to do what's going
to be in your self-interest,
698
00:29:25,533 --> 00:29:28,800
emotions are actually helping
us make better decisions.
699
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,233
♪ ♪
700
00:29:30,233 --> 00:29:32,966
WHEATLEY:
We are, in fact,
the company that we keep,
701
00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:36,100
because other people
bring out parts of us,
702
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:38,933
and strengthen
us in particular ways.
703
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:41,633
SCHILLER:
How you make decisions,
704
00:29:41,633 --> 00:29:44,633
how you behave,
how you think about yourself,
705
00:29:44,633 --> 00:29:46,700
all of these processes
we develop
706
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:48,766
by mimicking and interacting
707
00:29:48,766 --> 00:29:50,566
and synchronizing with other
brains.
708
00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:54,900
SAXE:
One thing that we all share
as humans
709
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:59,133
is that social life and social
contact
710
00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:02,766
is an incredibly important part
of what our brain processes.
711
00:30:02,766 --> 00:30:04,800
Our brains are, in detail,
influenced
712
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,433
by every experience we have.
713
00:30:06,433 --> 00:30:08,766
Every moment, every sentence,
every image
714
00:30:08,766 --> 00:30:12,266
changes your brain.
715
00:30:12,266 --> 00:30:15,533
BERLIN:
And certain
experiences are so profound,
716
00:30:15,533 --> 00:30:18,866
so extreme, that they can impact
brain biology
717
00:30:18,866 --> 00:30:22,300
from one generation to the next.
718
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,133
Neuroscientist Bianca
Jones Marlin is studying
719
00:30:25,133 --> 00:30:29,266
how your ancestors'
experiences might control
720
00:30:29,266 --> 00:30:31,733
how your brain is wired today.
721
00:30:31,733 --> 00:30:34,800
MARLIN:
We ask how trauma affects
the brain,
722
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,566
how trauma affects the body,
723
00:30:36,566 --> 00:30:40,200
and really, how trauma affects
generations.
724
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,000
People in the world
suffer from traumatic events,
725
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,833
and these traumatic events
aren't just
726
00:30:44,833 --> 00:30:47,200
a one-time change in
their brain and their body.
727
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,500
It actually continues
for seemingly their lifetime.
728
00:30:50,666 --> 00:30:54,633
BERLIN:
Bianca's research is
inspired by her upbringing.
729
00:30:54,633 --> 00:30:56,433
MARLIN:
My parents,
my biological parents,
730
00:30:56,433 --> 00:30:58,133
were also foster parents.
731
00:30:58,133 --> 00:31:00,733
So I had foster siblings
and adopted siblings growing up.
732
00:31:00,733 --> 00:31:03,266
Only now as a scientist,
I realize that that motivates
733
00:31:03,266 --> 00:31:05,233
a lot of
the questions that I ask:
734
00:31:05,233 --> 00:31:08,100
how do we understand what
happens when kids
735
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,300
are born into trauma
736
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:13,000
and optimize what we do have for
better generations?
737
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,500
♪ ♪
738
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:19,866
BERLIN:
One insight comes from
an event during World War II.
739
00:31:19,866 --> 00:31:21,800
MARLIN:
At the end of World War II,
740
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,066
the Netherlands were
cut off from food by Nazi troops
741
00:31:24,066 --> 00:31:26,566
because they decided
to protest through the country.
742
00:31:26,566 --> 00:31:29,533
And during this period of time,
it created a man-made famine.
743
00:31:29,533 --> 00:31:32,233
There was starvation,
death, there was trauma.
744
00:31:32,233 --> 00:31:34,666
BERLIN:
Not only did those
745
00:31:34,666 --> 00:31:37,833
who suffered during the famine
experience health problems,
746
00:31:37,833 --> 00:31:42,133
but some of their children,
and even their grandchildren,
747
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:45,200
had metabolic issues.
748
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,700
So people began to ask,
how does an experience
749
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:51,600
of a parent, of a grandparent,
change offspring?
750
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,833
BERLIN:
Researchers began to discover
that your environment
751
00:31:56,833 --> 00:31:59,400
and your experiences can
change the way your genes
752
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,466
are activated in
your body and in your brain.
753
00:32:02,466 --> 00:32:05,033
MARLIN:
It's not like you get your genes
754
00:32:05,033 --> 00:32:06,533
and it's set in stone.
755
00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:08,466
They're constantly changing
based on the environment.
756
00:32:08,466 --> 00:32:10,166
BERLIN:
To see this in action,
757
00:32:10,166 --> 00:32:12,400
Bianca studies mice.
758
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,933
MARLIN:
We're able to map
the whole genome of mice,
759
00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:17,600
target certain areas
760
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,366
of that genetic code,
and use them
761
00:32:20,366 --> 00:32:23,000
to answer important
questions in science.
762
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,300
BERLIN:
So how could stress and trauma
763
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:28,433
alter the biology
of the mice's offspring?
764
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:31,100
To find out,
765
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,033
Bianca paired the smell of
almond
766
00:32:33,033 --> 00:32:35,666
with an electric shock.
(shock buzzes)
767
00:32:35,666 --> 00:32:38,233
MARLIN:
Because mice really navigate
the world
768
00:32:38,233 --> 00:32:40,700
and rely heavily on the sense
of smell,
769
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:43,400
we use olfaction, pair it with
a light foot shock,
770
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,066
and we observe changes in the
brain and changes in behavior.
771
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,833
BERLIN:
She noticed
that something inside
772
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:53,300
of the mice's noses changed.
773
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:55,033
MARLIN:
We're able to look
at the cells in the nose
774
00:32:55,033 --> 00:32:57,000
that only respond to almond.
775
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,133
And what we observe is
that after the light foot shock
776
00:33:00,133 --> 00:33:03,366
and the presentation of almond
coinciding,
777
00:33:03,366 --> 00:33:04,866
there are more cells in the nose
778
00:33:04,866 --> 00:33:06,400
that express the almond
receptor.
779
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,466
It's as if something in
the milieu of the nose says,
780
00:33:09,466 --> 00:33:11,200
almond's important
in this environment.
781
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,700
We need more cells like you.
782
00:33:13,833 --> 00:33:15,400
BERLIN:
Mice grew more cells
783
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,600
that responded
to the smell of almond.
784
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,033
MARLIN:
Each one of these green
dots you see here,
785
00:33:21,033 --> 00:33:22,700
these are neurons.
786
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:25,200
They're cells that can respond
to the almond smell.
787
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,366
These red dots are
cells that were born
788
00:33:29,366 --> 00:33:32,000
after the presentation
of odor and shock.
789
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,300
And this cell right here,
this red and green cell,
790
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:37,833
is a cell that was born
791
00:33:37,833 --> 00:33:39,700
after the presentation
of almond and shock
792
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,066
that also responds to almond.
793
00:33:42,066 --> 00:33:44,133
This is the cell
that we want to look at
794
00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:46,433
to see what information
is inside,
795
00:33:46,433 --> 00:33:48,000
because we see more of these
796
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,366
after the odor and shock
pairing.
797
00:33:50,366 --> 00:33:53,833
BERLIN:
Remarkably, these changes were
actually passed down
798
00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:57,233
to the next generation.
799
00:33:57,233 --> 00:33:59,400
MARLIN:
The offspring,
the kids of the parents
800
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,133
that were shocked with odor,
801
00:34:02,133 --> 00:34:06,066
were born with more cells that
express the almond receptor.
802
00:34:06,066 --> 00:34:07,833
Which means there's
a memory that somehow
803
00:34:07,833 --> 00:34:12,000
is maintained in sperm
and egg through implantation
804
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,933
and represented in offspring.
805
00:34:14,933 --> 00:34:18,833
It is as if we are
observing a change in evolution
806
00:34:18,833 --> 00:34:23,233
over the time span of one
generation.
807
00:34:23,233 --> 00:34:25,500
And I just
think that's fascinating.
808
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,200
Because we as humans know how
809
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,033
environment and how traumatic
events change people.
810
00:34:33,033 --> 00:34:36,200
Just being able to take
the science of that
811
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,133
and being able to show that,
812
00:34:38,133 --> 00:34:41,033
we're just justifying what we
already know as humans,
813
00:34:41,033 --> 00:34:42,733
what society has known for a
long time,
814
00:34:42,733 --> 00:34:44,533
what individuals know.
815
00:34:44,533 --> 00:34:48,366
We just want to bring
that to an undeniable truth.
816
00:34:50,266 --> 00:34:52,766
MARTINEZ-CONDE:
Our brains are not static.
817
00:34:52,766 --> 00:34:56,866
We try to make sense of
what's happening right now,
818
00:34:56,866 --> 00:35:01,400
but we also try to make sense of
what happened a long time ago
819
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,366
and to have, like, this grand
picture
820
00:35:03,366 --> 00:35:05,066
of our life as a trajectory.
821
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,666
Our ability
for conscious awareness.
822
00:35:09,666 --> 00:35:11,033
It's a magnificent ability,
this ability
823
00:35:11,033 --> 00:35:12,466
to reflect on our own minds.
824
00:35:12,466 --> 00:35:15,533
But it also leads us astray.
825
00:35:15,533 --> 00:35:17,766
SETH:
I have memories, plans,
826
00:35:17,766 --> 00:35:21,300
I have these feelings
of agency over my actions.
827
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:23,566
But what the science
itself is telling us is that
828
00:35:23,566 --> 00:35:26,233
these things aren't
necessarily bound together.
829
00:35:26,233 --> 00:35:28,800
Different aspects of
the self can be manipulated,
830
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,800
or even taken away altogether.
831
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,233
BERLIN:
Your biology
and the choices you make
832
00:35:34,233 --> 00:35:36,933
are all molded by your social
interactions
833
00:35:36,933 --> 00:35:39,666
and even your family history.
834
00:35:39,666 --> 00:35:42,733
And yet,
we feel like we have control.
835
00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:46,166
Like we have agency, right?
836
00:35:46,166 --> 00:35:50,666
♪ ♪
837
00:35:52,333 --> 00:35:57,633
MAOZ:
An agent is somebody that is the
author of their own story.
838
00:35:58,766 --> 00:36:00,466
But actually,
839
00:36:00,466 --> 00:36:02,833
most of what's happening in our
brain we are not conscious of.
840
00:36:02,833 --> 00:36:05,800
And I think this gets
you starting to think,
841
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,033
wait a minute, you know,
842
00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:09,633
is really everything under my
control?
843
00:36:11,366 --> 00:36:12,666
BERLIN:
Neuroscientist Uri Maoz
844
00:36:12,666 --> 00:36:15,333
is putting our sense of control
to the test.
845
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:18,966
We feel like we're in control,
846
00:36:18,966 --> 00:36:20,700
but where exactly does that
847
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:23,766
feeling come from,
and how does it work?
848
00:36:23,766 --> 00:36:26,333
Ah, here you are.
849
00:36:26,333 --> 00:36:28,466
Hello.
Hello.
850
00:36:28,466 --> 00:36:30,666
Thank you very
much for joining us,
851
00:36:30,666 --> 00:36:33,800
agent-ically
and out of your own volition.
852
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,733
(laughs):
Of course.
Before we start...
853
00:36:35,733 --> 00:36:37,566
Mm-hmm.
...let me give you
this envelope.
854
00:36:37,566 --> 00:36:40,200
Okay.
Please don't
let anybody touch it.
855
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,400
Okay.
And don't look inside,
but we'll need it for later on.
856
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,866
For later, okay.
857
00:36:44,866 --> 00:36:46,600
BERLIN:
To show me how my sense
of control
858
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,033
isn't always what it seems,
859
00:36:48,033 --> 00:36:50,800
Uri kicked things off by trying
to get me
860
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,733
to question my ability to
choose by using a magic trick.
861
00:36:55,733 --> 00:36:57,200
So where would
you like to sit?
862
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,933
Where would I like to sit?
863
00:36:58,933 --> 00:37:00,766
MAOZ: It's really up to you.
BERLIN:
It's really-- I have a choice?
864
00:37:00,766 --> 00:37:02,333
MAOZ:
Wherever you want--
you have a choice.
865
00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:04,066
All right,
so I'm going to sit here.
866
00:37:04,066 --> 00:37:05,533
You're going to sit
over there, okay.
Yes.
867
00:37:05,533 --> 00:37:07,533
So how about just before you sit
down, if you don't mind...
868
00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:08,833
Mm-hmm.
869
00:37:08,833 --> 00:37:12,700
Um, let's see
what this says.
870
00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:14,800
Oh, my God, okay.
So...
871
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,333
So then that one obviously
says the same thing, right?
872
00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:20,266
Um...
No?
873
00:37:20,266 --> 00:37:22,266
Let's check
and see what this one says.
874
00:37:22,266 --> 00:37:25,700
This one says...
Oh, come on.
875
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:28,400
Okay.
(laughs):
So I'm that predictable?
876
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,200
You don't even know me yet!
877
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:33,433
BERLIN:
I really don't know how
he did that!
878
00:37:33,433 --> 00:37:38,466
I'm not totally convinced,
but I'm starting to question,
879
00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:40,533
how do I know when
I have made a decision?
880
00:37:40,533 --> 00:37:43,200
If I may,
let me give you,
881
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,433
as a present, a book.
882
00:37:44,433 --> 00:37:46,700
Here you go, this is yours.
Oh, thank you.
883
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:48,300
And I will just ask
you to leaf through it...
884
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:51,833
Mm-hmm.
...and find a word that has
some meaning for you.
885
00:37:51,833 --> 00:37:53,200
All right, I got it.
886
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,466
Can you tell
me what the word is?
887
00:37:54,466 --> 00:37:56,433
Representation.
888
00:37:56,433 --> 00:37:58,666
Please write the word down,
representation.
Mm-hmm.
889
00:37:58,666 --> 00:38:00,466
And, you know,
just stick that sticky note
890
00:38:00,466 --> 00:38:02,333
somewhere on that page,
yeah, thank you.
Okay, okay, all right.
891
00:38:02,333 --> 00:38:04,466
BERLIN:
We'll come back to that later.
892
00:38:05,633 --> 00:38:08,300
But for now,
I'm starting to see how choice
893
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:11,166
and agency aren't
always so straightforward.
894
00:38:12,533 --> 00:38:15,266
So to find out what's
actually going on in the brain
895
00:38:15,266 --> 00:38:17,833
when our sense of
control is in question,
896
00:38:17,833 --> 00:38:19,566
I took a look
at a trial designed
897
00:38:19,566 --> 00:38:22,900
by post-doctoral
researcher Alice Wong.
898
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:26,900
A volunteer from the lab,
Tomás, is being fitted
899
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:30,366
with a transcranial magnetic
stimulation device,
900
00:38:30,366 --> 00:38:33,366
TMS for short.
901
00:38:33,366 --> 00:38:36,433
It generates a strong magnetic
field
902
00:38:36,433 --> 00:38:38,066
that can send
signals to your brain.
903
00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:39,366
MAOZ:
The idea is that you
904
00:38:39,366 --> 00:38:43,766
stimulate the brain using
a focused magnetic field.
905
00:38:43,766 --> 00:38:46,566
And if you stimulate
that in the right part
906
00:38:46,566 --> 00:38:50,133
of the motor cortex--
it's a part of the brain
907
00:38:50,133 --> 00:38:52,166
that actually
controls your fingers--
908
00:38:52,166 --> 00:38:53,800
it's like you're
pulling on a string here.
909
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,166
Every time you pull it,
the finger goes.
910
00:38:57,133 --> 00:38:59,100
BERLIN:
With the device hooked up,
911
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,166
the researchers can make
his finger jump
912
00:39:01,166 --> 00:39:05,600
involuntarily by sending
a signal to his motor cortex.
913
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,700
(device clicks)
WONG:
We're going to be locating
914
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,400
the spot of your motor cortex
that moves one of your fingers.
915
00:39:13,066 --> 00:39:14,266
(device clicks)
916
00:39:14,266 --> 00:39:15,533
How about that?
TOMÁS: That works.
917
00:39:15,533 --> 00:39:18,133
That was a pinky movement up.
WONG: Okay.
918
00:39:19,133 --> 00:39:23,533
BERLIN:
Sometimes they ask him
to move his finger on his own.
919
00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:26,266
WONG:
Could you replicate the movement
if in, that you...
920
00:39:26,266 --> 00:39:28,133
TOMÁS:
Was something like this.
921
00:39:28,133 --> 00:39:30,433
BERLIN:
Remarkably, by recording
922
00:39:30,433 --> 00:39:33,500
the small electrical signals
that travel from his brain
923
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,866
down to his finger muscles,
924
00:39:35,866 --> 00:39:38,633
Alice and Uri can pinpoint the
exact moment
925
00:39:38,633 --> 00:39:41,366
that Tomás's brain has initiated
a movement--
926
00:39:41,366 --> 00:39:45,933
almost 50 milliseconds
before he actually moves.
927
00:39:45,933 --> 00:39:50,466
With this information, it's
as though they can predict
928
00:39:50,466 --> 00:39:53,500
his movement slightly
before it actually happens.
929
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:58,166
So now, his sense of agency
is about to be put to the test.
930
00:39:58,166 --> 00:39:59,733
WONG:
Who initiated the movement?
931
00:39:59,733 --> 00:40:01,333
TOMÁS:
It was me.
932
00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:03,933
WONG:
How much agency did you
feel over the movement?
933
00:40:03,933 --> 00:40:04,933
TOMÁS:
Quite a lot.
934
00:40:04,933 --> 00:40:06,400
Full agency? Okay.
935
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,500
BERLIN:
Normally, the researcher
isn't in the room,
936
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:13,733
and all the questions
are conducted by the computer.
937
00:40:13,733 --> 00:40:15,866
Who initiated the movement?
938
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:20,533
I don't know.
939
00:40:20,533 --> 00:40:24,000
How much agency did
you feel over the movement?
940
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,300
TOMÁS:
I would say some agency.
941
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:27,966
BERLIN:
In some instances,
942
00:40:27,966 --> 00:40:32,333
just as Tomás decides
to move his finger,
943
00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:34,900
the researchers use the magnetic
field to make his finger move.
944
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:36,800
(device clicks)
WONG:
Who initiated the movement?
945
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,066
I really don't know.
946
00:40:39,066 --> 00:40:41,233
Okay.
947
00:40:41,233 --> 00:40:44,833
How much agency did
you feel over the movement?
948
00:40:44,833 --> 00:40:46,733
A little bit.
949
00:40:46,733 --> 00:40:48,500
BERLIN:
So, even in the instances
950
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:51,766
when Tomás really did decide
to move his finger...
951
00:40:51,766 --> 00:40:53,566
WONG:
How much agency did you feel
952
00:40:53,566 --> 00:40:56,633
over the movement?
No agency at all.
953
00:40:56,633 --> 00:40:59,666
BERLIN:
...he didn't always
feel like he was in control.
954
00:40:59,666 --> 00:41:03,600
So after the experiment, I was
excited to hear the results.
955
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,266
MAOZ:
When Tomás initiated
the movement himself,
956
00:41:08,266 --> 00:41:11,400
yet we intervened with the TMS,
957
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,233
Tomás said, "That wasn't me,
I didn't initiate the movement.
958
00:41:15,233 --> 00:41:18,233
It was the computer."
959
00:41:18,233 --> 00:41:20,133
He thought that the computer
initiated the movement,
960
00:41:20,133 --> 00:41:21,966
or it was both of them,
or he wasn't sure,
961
00:41:21,966 --> 00:41:23,766
but he almost never
said that it was him.
962
00:41:24,766 --> 00:41:26,566
BERLIN:
So what do you think is going
on there?
963
00:41:26,566 --> 00:41:28,833
How is this happening?
964
00:41:28,833 --> 00:41:30,633
MAOZ:
You know, we walk around
and we feel like, you know,
965
00:41:30,633 --> 00:41:32,900
we are the authors of our,
of our actions and so on.
966
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,000
And you can see with just
a little bit of messing around,
967
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,600
it tends to fall apart.
968
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,500
BERLIN: It's fragile,
like our sense of self...
MAOZ: Yes.
969
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:41,400
BERLIN:
...our memories,
our sense of agency.
970
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,533
They're all things that
our brain evolved over time.
971
00:41:44,533 --> 00:41:47,433
BERLIN: But they're fragile
and they can be manipulated...
MAOZ: Yes.
972
00:41:47,433 --> 00:41:48,933
BERLIN:
...under the right
circumstances.
973
00:41:48,933 --> 00:41:50,200
MAOZ:
Everything has to align
974
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,333
for you to feel the sense
of agency.
975
00:41:51,333 --> 00:41:53,800
When the finger moves,
976
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,700
we get this feedback
back to the brain
977
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:57,000
and it's incorporated with
whatever is happening
978
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,800
in the brain
to create the movement.
979
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,700
MAOZ:
And together you get this sense
of agency over the movement.
980
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:07,000
I think that in everyday life,
we are in control.
981
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,766
However, I think this experiment
shows we're quite happy
982
00:42:09,766 --> 00:42:11,433
to relinquish control.
983
00:42:11,433 --> 00:42:13,200
BERLIN:
Like states of consciousness,
984
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,933
there are levels of agency,
985
00:42:14,933 --> 00:42:19,733
ways it can be manipulated,
and even taken away.
986
00:42:19,733 --> 00:42:22,133
We think A happened and then B
happened.
987
00:42:22,133 --> 00:42:24,100
That's the end of the story.
988
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,066
But of course, most of our brain
activity is unconscious.
989
00:42:27,066 --> 00:42:29,566
Who initiated the first
movement?
990
00:42:29,566 --> 00:42:32,033
That was me.
991
00:42:32,033 --> 00:42:33,766
SETH:
So, we sometimes misinterpret.
992
00:42:33,766 --> 00:42:35,333
Our experience of
voluntary action
993
00:42:35,333 --> 00:42:37,533
is a little bit
retrospective in this sense.
994
00:42:37,533 --> 00:42:39,733
The brain looks at what
the body did,
995
00:42:39,733 --> 00:42:41,666
and figures out if that makes
sense
996
00:42:41,666 --> 00:42:44,300
as an act of its own free will.
997
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:45,666
♪ ♪
998
00:42:45,666 --> 00:42:48,166
BERLIN:
After the agency experiment,
999
00:42:48,166 --> 00:42:50,900
we had more important
matters to attend to.
1000
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:54,333
So, Heather, when you came in,
I gave you an envelope, right?
1001
00:42:54,333 --> 00:42:56,533
Yes.
Nobody touched it but you?
1002
00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:57,600
No.
1003
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Do you remember
that later on,
1004
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,033
I gave you that book?
Mm-hmm.
1005
00:43:02,033 --> 00:43:03,800
And in that book,
you opened it
1006
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,266
to whatever page you wanted,
and you found a word in there.
Mm-hmm.
1007
00:43:07,266 --> 00:43:09,833
Right, where the...
Can you tell
us again what that word was?
1008
00:43:09,833 --> 00:43:11,533
Yes, it was on page 105.
1009
00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:14,933
And the word was
"representation."
1010
00:43:14,933 --> 00:43:16,866
Representation, okay.
1011
00:43:16,866 --> 00:43:19,333
So if you don't mind just
putting the book aside
1012
00:43:19,333 --> 00:43:21,533
and if you could take the
envelope out now.
Okay.
1013
00:43:21,533 --> 00:43:23,500
Can you open it and see
what's inside, please?
1014
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:25,033
Oh, this is one of these things
1015
00:43:25,033 --> 00:43:27,366
that's gonna freak me out,
right?
Let's see.
1016
00:43:27,366 --> 00:43:28,566
I'm getting chills.
1017
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,700
Come on. No way!
1018
00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:39,666
Come on-- no, seriously!
(both laugh)
1019
00:43:39,666 --> 00:43:41,900
That's really freaky.
1020
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:43,500
So you're in control,
right?
1021
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:46,266
I don't know how you did that--
that is really weird.
1022
00:43:46,266 --> 00:43:47,833
I mean, what do I do now?
1023
00:43:47,833 --> 00:43:50,600
(laughs):
I don't know where to--
what do I do with that?
1024
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,866
BERLIN:
Uri's magic acts are tricks.
1025
00:43:52,866 --> 00:43:55,800
Sleights-of-hand
and misdirection.
1026
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,866
But when I saw what
was written on the card,
1027
00:43:57,866 --> 00:44:01,800
I have to admit I wondered
if my choices mattered at all.
1028
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,200
Going to do this...
1029
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,800
BERLIN:
Alice Wong's experiment supports
1030
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,500
the idea that it isn't just
about what happens in the brain
1031
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:10,500
at the moment
a decision is made.
1032
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:12,500
How did you do that?
1033
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:14,533
BERLIN:
Your sense of agency
or control
1034
00:44:14,533 --> 00:44:18,466
also has to do with feedback
you get after the decision--
1035
00:44:18,466 --> 00:44:21,766
physical, social, and emotional.
1036
00:44:21,766 --> 00:44:24,600
I think of agency as a sense,
so there is a sense of agency
1037
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,200
that sometimes
can get disrupted, perhaps,
1038
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,166
just like you have a sense
of sight or smell and so on.
1039
00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:31,500
Sometimes,
you have visual illusions.
1040
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:33,333
It's similar
with a sense of agency.
1041
00:44:33,333 --> 00:44:36,233
I can manipulate
your sense of agency.
1042
00:44:36,233 --> 00:44:37,866
But that doesn't
mean that we never
1043
00:44:37,866 --> 00:44:39,500
have a sense of agency.
1044
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,033
♪ ♪
1045
00:44:41,033 --> 00:44:43,800
BERLIN:
Your brain is
a meaning-maker machine.
1046
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,333
And creating a sense of agency
1047
00:44:46,333 --> 00:44:49,833
is one of the ways it makes
meaning out of your daily life.
1048
00:44:51,066 --> 00:44:54,200
BANAJI:
There is no way in
which I can operate
1049
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,700
without understanding
1050
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:58,366
what is happening
and why I'm doing it.
1051
00:44:58,366 --> 00:45:02,100
It's the filling-in of
the blanks that is necessary
1052
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,033
in some ways for survival,
to give meaning, to make sense
1053
00:45:05,033 --> 00:45:07,733
of the cause and effect of
things.
1054
00:45:07,733 --> 00:45:10,033
KASTHURI:
Perhaps we have
that feeling of consciousness
1055
00:45:10,033 --> 00:45:12,633
because it gives
me a sense of agency.
1056
00:45:12,633 --> 00:45:16,133
It allows me to pretend like
I'm the one making decisions
1057
00:45:16,133 --> 00:45:18,033
and I'm the one
reaping the rewards
1058
00:45:18,033 --> 00:45:21,766
or the failures
of that particular decision.
1059
00:45:21,766 --> 00:45:24,333
BERLIN:
There are parts of the brain
that allow you
1060
00:45:24,333 --> 00:45:27,166
to feel like
the author of your own life.
1061
00:45:27,166 --> 00:45:29,766
But that's
only part of the story.
1062
00:45:29,766 --> 00:45:31,600
(echoing):
Each of our minds is
actually composed
1063
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,833
of lots of different pieces
that are doing different things.
1064
00:45:33,833 --> 00:45:36,466
This illusion
that there's a single person
1065
00:45:36,466 --> 00:45:38,600
inside our skulls.
1066
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,566
MARLIN:
We know how environment
1067
00:45:40,566 --> 00:45:43,800
and how traumatic events change
people.
1068
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,766
Our brains are, in detail,
influenced
1069
00:45:45,766 --> 00:45:48,633
by the expectations
of the people around us.
1070
00:45:48,633 --> 00:45:53,100
But of course, most of our brain
activity is unconscious.
1071
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,500
(playing slow tune)
1072
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:58,500
BERLIN:
But there are some situations
where letting go
1073
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,633
of conscious control
can have amazing results.
1074
00:46:04,466 --> 00:46:06,466
LIMB:
When you're playing the blues,
1075
00:46:06,466 --> 00:46:08,433
you have this kind of
well-known musical structure,
1076
00:46:08,433 --> 00:46:10,633
this template,
and then you use that
1077
00:46:10,633 --> 00:46:12,000
as a launchpad
for improvisation,
1078
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,266
for innovation,
and for new ideas.
1079
00:46:14,266 --> 00:46:17,766
BERLIN:
Charles Limb is a neuroscientist
1080
00:46:17,766 --> 00:46:20,600
trying to understand how our
brain operates
1081
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,633
when we are being truly
creative.
1082
00:46:22,633 --> 00:46:25,733
CHRIS EMDIN:
♪ It's gon' be ill in the MRI ♪
1083
00:46:25,733 --> 00:46:27,200
BERLIN:
And today,
1084
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,366
he's using a scanner to peer
into the brain
1085
00:46:29,366 --> 00:46:32,566
of educator and freestyle
rapper Chris Emdin.
1086
00:46:32,566 --> 00:46:35,400
♪ I wonder if I'm going insane
as I'm freestyling, profiling ♪
1087
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,166
♪ Still wilin',
it's gon' be ill ♪
1088
00:46:37,166 --> 00:46:39,100
You ready for me?
WOMAN: Yes.
1089
00:46:42,233 --> 00:46:44,433
LIMB:
Okay, remember,
keep your head still
1090
00:46:44,433 --> 00:46:47,200
during the entire thing
and try not to move your feet
1091
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,366
or your hands
at all during the rapping.
1092
00:46:49,366 --> 00:46:50,966
EMDIN (on speaker):
Okay, doing the best I can.
1093
00:46:50,966 --> 00:46:52,666
Yeah, awesome,
thank you.
1094
00:46:52,666 --> 00:46:57,400
BERLIN:
First, Charles asks Chris
to perform a memorized piece.
1095
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,700
Now, that memory means you're
going to do the memorized lyrics
1096
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:01,133
the way
you originally wrote them.
1097
00:47:01,133 --> 00:47:04,133
Okay?
EMDIN: Okay.
1098
00:47:04,133 --> 00:47:06,033
LIMB:
Memory.
1099
00:47:06,033 --> 00:47:08,533
EMDIN:
♪ I'm a physicist, lyricist,
spitting this ridiculousness ♪
1100
00:47:08,533 --> 00:47:10,600
♪ So witness the ignorance
I dismiss ♪
Up a little bit?
1101
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,666
♪ Feelings and emotion
is the topic of the course ♪
1102
00:47:12,666 --> 00:47:15,300
♪ Staying motionless
to handle balanced force ♪
1103
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:18,233
BERLIN:
Next, he gives him
a prompt and asks him
1104
00:47:18,233 --> 00:47:23,366
to improvise-- to create a new,
original piece on the spot.
1105
00:47:23,366 --> 00:47:25,166
He doesn't know what's coming.
Mm-hmm.
1106
00:47:25,166 --> 00:47:27,233
And that's going
to be his cues for that.
1107
00:47:27,233 --> 00:47:29,966
LIMB:
Freestyle: physicist.
1108
00:47:29,966 --> 00:47:32,466
EMDIN:
♪ Physicist, lyricist ♪
1109
00:47:32,466 --> 00:47:34,300
♪ Emcees like this
will always be kicking this ♪
1110
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:35,966
♪ After all of
that it'll all be over ♪
1111
00:47:35,966 --> 00:47:39,300
♪ Lucky like I picked
a four-leaf clover ♪
1112
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:41,266
♪ Can't move my shoulder ♪
1113
00:47:41,266 --> 00:47:43,366
♪ 'Cause the MRI machine won't
let me do it ♪
1114
00:47:43,366 --> 00:47:45,833
♪ But you wouldn't know
what it is that it's like ♪
(laughs)
1115
00:47:45,833 --> 00:47:48,533
♪ I'm like a baseball player
the way I strike ♪
1116
00:47:48,533 --> 00:47:50,066
♪ With the raps... ♪
LIMB: Stop.
1117
00:47:50,066 --> 00:47:52,000
(chuckles):
He's good.
1118
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:56,966
BERLIN:
So, what does improvisation
or spontaneous creativity
1119
00:47:56,966 --> 00:47:59,533
look like in the brain?
1120
00:47:59,533 --> 00:48:01,000
LIMB:
What we found was that
1121
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,800
the prefrontal cortex
that appears to be linked
1122
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,366
to effortful self-monitoring
1123
00:48:07,366 --> 00:48:09,433
seemed to be turning off,
1124
00:48:09,433 --> 00:48:12,300
deactivating, in a pretty
intense way
1125
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:14,233
in these highly trained
professional musicians
1126
00:48:14,233 --> 00:48:16,733
when they start improvising.
1127
00:48:16,733 --> 00:48:21,633
So in some sense, by letting go,
by decreasing activation
1128
00:48:21,633 --> 00:48:23,533
in the prefrontal cortex,
1129
00:48:23,533 --> 00:48:26,333
we can sort of gain control
of our lives in a way.
1130
00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:28,433
LIMB:
In fact, if you're
too self-conscious
1131
00:48:28,433 --> 00:48:30,166
and you're unable
to relax and let go,
1132
00:48:30,166 --> 00:48:32,700
you can't do
something like this.
1133
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:35,100
When you start trying to put
conscious control mechanism,
1134
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:36,733
your performance goes down--
you get worse.
1135
00:48:36,733 --> 00:48:38,566
So would you say this
goes to, to any activity,
1136
00:48:38,566 --> 00:48:41,766
really, if you're,
for a professional tennis player
1137
00:48:41,766 --> 00:48:43,566
or if you're trying
to do a physical activity,
1138
00:48:43,566 --> 00:48:46,233
that the more you're
able to practice letting go,
1139
00:48:46,233 --> 00:48:49,666
once you've learnt the skill,
the better you'll be.
Exactly.
1140
00:48:49,666 --> 00:48:53,966
LIMB:
Free throw shooters that are
able to shoot 99% free throws,
1141
00:48:53,966 --> 00:48:55,566
all of a sudden,
when you tell them
1142
00:48:55,566 --> 00:48:57,133
you're going to get a million
dollars
1143
00:48:57,133 --> 00:48:58,733
if you make the next one...
Mm-hmm.
1144
00:48:58,733 --> 00:49:01,500
Then all of a sudden, you inject
conscious control over something
1145
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:03,900
that's much better just to left
to its own subconsciousness.
1146
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:05,333
And then your performance gets
worse,
1147
00:49:05,333 --> 00:49:06,800
and you're more likely to choke.
1148
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,633
BERLIN:
Surprisingly,
the parts of your brain
1149
00:49:09,633 --> 00:49:13,466
that are usually in control
can get in your way.
1150
00:49:13,466 --> 00:49:16,366
Your prefrontal cortex,
the decision maker,
1151
00:49:16,366 --> 00:49:20,466
can make you overthink something
you've done a thousand times.
1152
00:49:22,733 --> 00:49:24,466
LIMB:
Freestyle: stay.
1153
00:49:24,466 --> 00:49:26,300
EMDIN:
♪ Yes, you want me to stay ♪
1154
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:28,400
♪ Relaxed,
but I won't never play ♪
1155
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,300
LIMB:
Every human being is creative.
1156
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:34,000
Whether they're
creative artistically or not
1157
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,233
is another question,
but we're all creative.
1158
00:49:36,233 --> 00:49:38,233
We have to be, because
all day long, we're doing
1159
00:49:38,233 --> 00:49:40,800
unscripted things that we
didn't know we would be doing.
1160
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,233
Life is not scripted.
1161
00:49:43,233 --> 00:49:44,733
And so no matter who you are
1162
00:49:44,733 --> 00:49:48,333
in this world, you're doing
things that are unplanned.
1163
00:49:49,333 --> 00:49:51,800
BERLIN:
All day long,
we're balancing forces
1164
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,566
that push us around,
even if we're not aware of them,
1165
00:49:54,566 --> 00:49:58,066
from past trauma
to the emotions of others,
1166
00:49:58,066 --> 00:50:01,666
and all the hidden
forces affecting your brain.
1167
00:50:01,666 --> 00:50:04,900
KASTHURI:
I'd like to believe
that I am in charge of my life,
1168
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:07,566
that I am the agent of my life,
1169
00:50:07,566 --> 00:50:10,033
that I actually can control my
emotions,
1170
00:50:10,033 --> 00:50:12,100
my abilities, my desires.
1171
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,700
And the more I learn
about brains, the more I realize
1172
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:16,000
that this is probably not true.
1173
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,066
SETH:
We can be influenced
by our social networks,
1174
00:50:19,066 --> 00:50:22,300
by our culture, by our genetics,
1175
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:26,066
by our development,
by our childhood.
1176
00:50:26,066 --> 00:50:28,100
(clock ticking)
1177
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:30,900
BERLIN:
Your brain is a complicated
collection
1178
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:33,200
of these intricate parts,
1179
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,433
many of which
you have no awareness of,
1180
00:50:35,433 --> 00:50:38,466
and they all work together
in a delicate dance
1181
00:50:38,466 --> 00:50:42,966
to create your perception
of you.
1182
00:50:42,966 --> 00:50:45,033
KANWISHER:
The brain is who you are.
1183
00:50:45,033 --> 00:50:47,500
It's really different than
any other organ in that sense.
1184
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:50,400
MARTINEZ-CONDE:
We know that every experience,
1185
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,900
every thought, every memory,
1186
00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:57,466
every sensation has
its origin in the brain.
1187
00:50:58,566 --> 00:51:01,366
KASTHURI:
The brain is made of almost
90 billion neurons,
1188
00:51:01,366 --> 00:51:02,766
but it produces the idea
1189
00:51:02,766 --> 00:51:05,200
that there's a single thing
inside my head.
1190
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,600
My particular
pattern of neuronal connections,
1191
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,600
it actually creates me.
1192
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,000
And your particular pattern
of neuronal connections
1193
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,100
actually creates you.
1194
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:18,666
BERLIN:
Years of studying the brain
have humbled me.
1195
00:51:18,666 --> 00:51:20,133
BERLIN:
He looks scared.
1196
00:51:20,133 --> 00:51:22,933
BERLIN:
You can't control everything
1197
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:25,100
that makes you who you are.
1198
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:29,233
But the unconscious
you is still you.
1199
00:51:29,233 --> 00:51:32,233
BANAJI:
The vast majority
1200
00:51:32,233 --> 00:51:36,033
of the brain's work is happening
outside conscious awareness.
1201
00:51:36,033 --> 00:51:38,900
(crowd groans)
LIMB: If you try to
over-control some things,
1202
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:40,866
you actually will
decrease your performance.
1203
00:51:40,866 --> 00:51:43,266
LIMB:
You have to let go
1204
00:51:43,266 --> 00:51:45,500
of conscious self-monitoring
to just kind of, like,
1205
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,633
go with the flow.
1206
00:51:47,633 --> 00:51:49,400
It could be scary to say
and scary to hear,
1207
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,500
but we are not just our own.
1208
00:51:52,633 --> 00:51:55,333
WHEATLEY:
We are all multifaceted,
multi-dimensional people.
1209
00:51:56,666 --> 00:51:58,500
BERLIN:
And by becoming more aware
1210
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:02,100
of the unconscious processes in
your own brain,
1211
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,566
you can become more aware
of what drives you,
1212
00:52:04,566 --> 00:52:09,533
and what you ultimately
can control.
1213
00:52:31,866 --> 00:52:39,400
♪ ♪
1214
00:52:43,233 --> 00:52:50,766
♪ ♪
1215
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:59,933
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