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ANIL SETH:
The brain is one of
the most complex objects
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that we know of in the universe.
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BOBBY KASTHURI:
There are more connections
in your brain
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than there are stars
in the Milky Way galaxy.
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So, we literally walk around
with about 10,000 galaxies'
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worth of neuronal connections
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in one of our brains.
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HEATHER BERLIN:
That vast web of
connections creates you.
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But how?
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NANCY KANWISHER:
Figuring out how the brain
implements the mind
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is a massive challenge.
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SETH:
It seems as though
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the world just pours itself
into the mind
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through the transparent windows
of the eyes
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and the ears and,
and all our other senses.
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BERLIN:
But is what we see,
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hear,
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and feel real?
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You might think that the reality
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outside is actually
what you're perceiving.
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And the answer is no,
it really isn't.
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Almost at the very first moment,
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we are transforming reality.
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It feels so real
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because we don't know better.
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Think about illusions.
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ROSA LAFER-SOUSA:
Do you remember the dress?
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Of course-- it's like a
celebrity, the dress.
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A polarizing debate
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that took over the internet.
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White and gold.
Blue and black.
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SETH:
Illusions are fascinating;
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they're like
fractures in the matrix.
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BERLIN:
Ow!
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Isn't that interesting?
Whoa!
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They reveal to us that the way
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we perceive things isn't
necessarily the way they are.
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BERLIN:
Could you be
the biggest illusion of all?
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SUSANA MARTINEZ-CONDE:
Your sense of who you are
is an illusion
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as everything else;
you're no exception.
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BERLIN:
"Your Brain:
Perception Deception."
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Right now, on "NOVA."
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MAN:
Okay, rolling.
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Take three.
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BERLIN:
Have you ever thought
about what's real?
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(echoing)
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Somehow the whole world out
there gets inside my head.
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How do I know
what I see, what I hear,
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what I feel is right?
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It's a question
that's fascinated me
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ever since I was a little girl.
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I couldn't sleep one night,
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and I had this
thought for the first time:
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And then I thought, well,
even if I don't have a body,
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can I at least keep
my own inner thoughts?
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So I asked my dad the next day,
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"Dad, where do my thoughts come
from?"
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And he said,
"They come from your brain."
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(explosion echoes)
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"Your brain."
I was hooked.
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This bag of
jelly between my ears,
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how does it work?
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STANISLAS DEHAENE:
I think it's one of the ultimate
mysteries.
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How matter becomes thought.
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ANDRÉ FENTON:
To answer that question would be
perhaps
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the highest human
achievement to date.
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DANIELA SCHILLER:
I mean, forget about scientific
quest.
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It's a human quest.
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BERLIN:
To find answers,
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I became a neuroscientist
and a psychologist.
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I'm Heather Berlin,
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and my journey to understand
my brain begins with a question.
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How does the world out there,
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with all its beauty
and complexity,
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get inside our heads?
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Think about it.
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Imagine for a second
you're a brain,
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sealed inside your skull.
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There's no light, no sound.
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KASTHURI:
You're a massive collection
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of billions and billions
of cells that are living
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in this weird pond that
is entirely devoid
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of all of the sensations,
and that somehow,
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through chemistry
and electricity, all of these
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perceptions and memories
of the world
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originate in our brains.
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BERLIN:
All brains-- from the tiny fish
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to the enormous elephant--
contain microscopic cells
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called neurons, and one of their
jobs is to translate input
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from the external world,
whether that's light,
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heat, sound, or
pressure, for instance,
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into electrochemical signals
the organism can use to act.
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What might be surprising to you
is that
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as neurons process sensory
signals,
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they create an edited version
of reality,
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even on the most basic level.
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KASTHURI:
We're deciding to throw away 99%
of the world.
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Almost at the very first moment,
we are transforming reality
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into something we could use.
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BERLIN:
Neurons transform reality
by competing with each other.
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When a creature touches, smells,
sees, or hears something,
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its sensory neurons fire;
some a little, some a lot,
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depending on where the
physical signal is strongest.
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But follow those signals
down towards its brain,
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you'll see that the weaker ones
get stamped out.
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For simple brains,
say, the brain of a crab,
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a diffuse light to the eye
becomes a sharp beam.
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For more complex brains
like ours,
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it's in part what makes
you think
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that these two squares
are completely different colors,
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but actually, they're identical.
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MARTINEZ-CONDE:
Think about illusions.
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First, they're a lot of fun,
but as neuroscientists...
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Whoa...
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MARTINEZ-CONDE:
...illusions are very important
to us.
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Because of this discrepancy
between objective reality
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and subjective perception,
we can use these illusions
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as a handle to try to
understand what the brain
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is doing all the time.
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BERLIN:
Susana Martinez-Conde,
along with her partner
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and collaborator
Stephen Macknik,
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are among the
world's preeminent experts
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on illusions and perception,
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and what they tell us
about how the brain works.
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Ha, now what?
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(both laughing)
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MARTINEZ-CONDE:
To give a different example,
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Adelson's checkerboard illusion,
this is so striking because
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you see some of the checks
as dark and others as bright,
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but you realize that it is
exactly the same shade of gray.
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BERLIN:
Don't believe it?
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Look at the squares labeled
A and B.
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A looks darker,
right?
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Wrong-- that's the illusion.
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That's because your brain
is adjusting for the shadow.
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MARTINEZ-CONDE:
What's happening is that your
brain is considering
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the light source and basically
subtracting that light source
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from your resulting perception.
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Your brain is performing an
interpretation,
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a shortcut, if you will,
to arrive
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at a perception.
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BERLIN:
If the brain's shortcuts
distort reality this much,
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how much of the world
are we really seeing?
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STEPHEN MACKNIK:
What you need to understand
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is that we really can't see
most of the world around us.
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We're effectively blind
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to 99.9% of the world around us
at any given time.
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If you hold out your thumb
at arm's length...
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Mm-hmm.
And you straighten your elbow
and you look at your thumbnail,
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your thumbnail is about
one degree of visual angle here,
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and it turns out
that that's the only place
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we can actually
see with 20/20 vision.
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Wow.
And everywhere else,
we're legally blind.
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BERLIN:
It might sound hard to believe,
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but human vision is really
like this.
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You actually only see detail
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in about one percent
of your visual field.
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That's because only
a tiny portion of the world
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can be processed
in detail by the retina.
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It feels like I'm seeing
the whole world in 20/20 vision.
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And it's almost all completely
made up in your brain,
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based on assumptions and
models of how the world works
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and just a tiny bit of
high-quality visual information.
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Let me demonstrate this
to you.
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I know it's
kind of hard to believe...
Mm-hmm.
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...because you've been
having your whole life
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where you feel like
everything's continuous.
Yeah, show me the data.
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(laughs)
Show me the evidence.
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Let's look at an eye-tracker
and look at your eyes
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and how they actually work.
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And if you put your head
in this headrest...
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Mm-hmm.
...we'll point the camera
at your eyeballs
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and we'll actually be able
to see
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where your eyeballs
point during this demonstration.
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Feels like "Clockwork Orange."
(chuckles)
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"Buck lived at a big house
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in the sun-kissed
Santa Clara Valley."
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BERLIN:
First up, a reading demo.
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Though most of your screen
may be filled with Xs,
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to me, it just feels like
normal reading.
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I barely see the Xs,
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and that's because the display
of letters
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is tied to my eye movements.
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BERLIN:
Well, it's just, the words are
being
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revealed
depending on where I look.
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That's right,
so as you move your eyes...
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So weird.
...the words are
revealed to you.
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But we don't move our eyes
in the same way you do.
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So we just see a bunch of Xs
most of the time.
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BERLIN:
What turns out to be critical
is my eye movements.
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MACKNIK:
So our eye movements program
what part of this
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high-quality
piece of visual real estate
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we're going to put
where and at what time.
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BERLIN:
The human eye moves about
three times per second.
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We take it for granted,
but without these movements,
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we'd be basically blind,
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as Steve is about to show me.
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MACKNIK:
In this demonstration,
it's the opposite.
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Here we're blocking what you
can possibly see, right?
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BERLIN:
Though you may see a whole scene
with a square moving around,
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all I see is the square!
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I can tell something is around
the edges, but it's blurry.
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Whenever I try to look,
the square moves with my eyes
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and it's blocked.
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BERLIN:
This is so frustrating,
this one.
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Who has their hand up in
this image?
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BERLIN:
Uh... I think that guy
down there?
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MACKNIK:
That's right, but it's very hard
for you to see,
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right?
Every time I look at him,
it, yeah.
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It disappears because this
block, it blocks it.
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MACKNIK:
This actually is interesting
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because it's in high-quality
vision wherever you look,
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but it's blurry
in the surround.
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BERLIN:
Now the scene looks normal
to me,
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but mostly blurry to you
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because your eye movements
don't match mine.
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MACKNIK:
Wherever you happen to look,
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you have high-quality
image processing happening
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and the surround
is completely blurry.
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This kind of represents exactly
what your visual system
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looks like all the time
anyway.
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So why would our brains
be built this way?
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Well, think about what the
alternative is.
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What if
we didn't have eye movements?
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Well, if we didn't have
eye movements,
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and we just wanted to see
the entire world,
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we'd need to have our retinas
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see everything
in very high quality.
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Our brains would be
600 times bigger,
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and you gotta remember, the
visual system's our best sense.
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This is our richest sense.
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So our other senses are,
are even more impoverished.
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BERLIN:
Here's how your brain really
sees the world.
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It's easy to think it's
like this.
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You open your eyes
and the whole world pours in.
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But really, it's like this.
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Your eyes sample tiny pieces
of the world
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and the brain fills in the
rest-- constantly, all the time.
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KANWISHER:
We feel like we have
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this incredibly rich, wide,
full, detailed percept
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of what's going on
moment to moment,
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and that's probably pretty
illusory.
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What we're actually
aware of is a tiny subset
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of the information
that comes in through our eyes.
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BERLIN:
Don't believe it?
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Consider this:
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your optic nerve is what
connects your eye to your brain,
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and its location near the center
of your retina
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effectively creates a blind spot
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near the center of your
visual field.
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And yet, you don't experience
the blind spot-- why?
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The brain samples the area
near the blind spot
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and fills
in the gap with its best guess.
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KASTHURI:
It's probably not fair
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to say that we completely
confabulate the world,
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it's just
that we probably represent
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one percent of it at any
particular moment in time.
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So, it's a constant updating
between what I see with,
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versus what I remember, versus
what I expect.
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And it's that dance between
those three
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that actually gives us our
sense of reality.
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BERLIN:
And amazingly,
that edited reality--
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despite its limitations--
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serves us quite well.
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KASTHURI:
You might ask,
"If I'm just keeping track
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"of one percent of the
information in the world,
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how can I drive a car?"
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And it turns out that first one
percent
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of the information that comes
in from the world
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is actually an enormous
amount of information.
(chuckling)
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If we had to actually
pay attention
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to everything on the road at
the, at one particular time,
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it would take minutes,
maybe even longer,
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before I decide to turn
the wheel right
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or to turn the wheel left.
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BERLIN:
By understanding how
my senses really work,
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I'm getting a peek behind
the curtain:
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what my brain is really up
to outside of my awareness.
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MARTINEZ-CONDE:
Based on this very tiny amount
of information,
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we construct this
grand simulation
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of the visual world around us.
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It feels so real
because we don't know better.
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BERLIN:
And most of the time,
we all agree on that simulation.
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It's when we don't
that we can learn something.
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So do you remember
the dress?
Of course.
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Did you see this dress
or this one?
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It's a simple question,
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but the answer has divided
friends and family.
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White and gold.
Blue and black.
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I remember it caused
quite the stir, right?
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Massive stir.
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A polarizing debate
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that took over the internet.
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LAFER-SOUSA:
People had existential crises
over this image.
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People tweeted things like,
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"If that's not white and gold,
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my life has been a lie."
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Swear on your mother's
grave.
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Because that dress is white
and gold.
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Out of her (bleep) mind.
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LAFER-SOUSA:
Massive arguments.
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I watched videos of
people screaming at each other.
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GRAYSON DOLAN:
This is white, dude!
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ETHAN DOLAN:
White? That is dark blue!
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It's purple-blue!
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LAFER-SOUSA: I bet there was a
divorce here or there
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over this image.
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BERLIN: So when you first saw
that dress,
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as a, as a vision scientist,
what did you think?
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Well, when I first
saw the dress,
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I thought it was
blue and black.
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And I thought that the internet
was yanking my chain.
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Right-- to get the goat
of vision neuroscientists.
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Sure.
(chuckles)
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But in the morning,
when I looked at my phone,
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I saw white and gold.
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And now,
of course, I was obsessed.
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So I said, "Well,
if this is an ambiguous image,
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all I have
to do is disambiguate it."
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So I set to work,
I got into Photoshop,
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cut out the dress, put it into
a scene with lots of rich cues.
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BERLIN:
Hm.
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LAFER-SOUSA:
And all of a sudden, boom:
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you can see the dress is
white and gold.
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Wow.
Now, the pixels,
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the pixels that make up the
dress there,
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are identical
to the original image.
Okay.
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BERLIN: Now, this doesn't work
for everybody,
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but for most, the visual context
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can make all the difference.
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LAFER-SOUSA:
What's different here is, her
skin is tinted blue,
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the background has blue light
cast on it,
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she's standing
in the shadow of that cube,
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and so your brain says,
"Aha, I need to ignore
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"some amount of blue light
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"that is in this signal that's
hitting my eye
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and render
this as white and gold."
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BERLIN:
And if we flip things around?
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LAFER-SOUSA:
Same dress, pasted it into
this other scene.
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Her skin is tinted yellow, the
background has a yellow cast,
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she's standing no longer
in the shadow but in the light.
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Boom! Blue and black.
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Amazing, that's really
amazing.
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So again, the dress,
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the pixels are exactly
the same.
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LAFER-SOUSA:
Identical.
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BERLIN:
The dress is a powerful example
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of how color really works
in the brain.
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Does that mean
we're creating color
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in our mind, or does color
actually exist in the world?
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Color takes place
in the brain,
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and I've prepared a little
illusion for you
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that should
convince you of this.
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LAFER-SOUSA:
So I have a picture
of four cars here.
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I want you to tell me,
what color are these cars?
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Let's start on the top left.
BERLIN: Okay, so the one
on the left looks red,
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then the one
next to it looks blue.
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I'd say the one, the
bottom there,
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bottom left looks green,
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and then the one next to it
looks orange.
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LAFER-SOUSA:
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
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What if I told you
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that all of those pixels
are not only gray,
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they are the same gray?
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BERLIN:
How is this possible?
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It's because the light
that enters your eyes,
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contrary to what you might have
learned in school, is not color.
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Color is an interpretation
of your brain.
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Here's how it works.
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Light shines on the world
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and bounces off objects--
this part you know.
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And light comes in
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different wavelengths,
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each corresponding
to a different color.
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What you might not have
heard in school
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is how those wavelengths change
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when they hit different
surfaces--
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rough, smooth, wet, et cetera.
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This signal that gets into
your eye
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is actually a product
of the reflective properties
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of the object and the wavelength
of light hitting it.
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Then that signal is focused
on the retina,
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the back of the eye,
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where we have about 130 million
light-sensitive cells.
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Three types called cones
are involved in color,
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each sensitive to different
wavelengths of light:
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long, medium, and short.
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But that light
still isn't color.
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For that to happen,
our brain has to take
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that three-piece code
from the retina
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and use the relative response
of the cones to encode color.
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It's not until that signal gets
to an area called V4
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that we get
a neural representation of color
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that corresponds
to our perceptual experience.
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So why would
our brains be built this way?
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Well, if our brains weren't
built this way,
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objects would appear to change
in color all the time,
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and that would render color
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a pretty useless signal in the
world.
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♪ ♪
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BERLIN:
That's because objects reflect
different wavelengths
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into your eye depending
on the lighting conditions.
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If your brain didn't compensate
for this,
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a red berry would appear gray
in a cave,
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blue at dawn,
and orange at dusk.
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But instead, your brain
carefully calibrates
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your experience to hold color
constant.
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Similarly,
color vision in other animals
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is tuned to their needs.
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SETH:
Different species have very
different kinds of color vision
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that are suited to their
particular environments
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and their particular challenges
for staying alive.
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BERLIN:
Dogs rely on smell, so they have
fewer types of cones,
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and thus see the world like
this.
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Birds need to recognize tiny
color differences
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from great distances.
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so they have an extra type
of cone that allows them
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to see more colors than we do.
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And bees need to find
flowers rich in nectar,
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so they see ultraviolet light
that's invisible to us.
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LAFER-SOUSA:
Color provides a
lot of valuable information
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about the world,
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but only if we can faithfully
extract
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something about the object.
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So we don't actually see color
as it is in the real world,
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we just see it in
terms of how it's useful for us?
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Absolutely.
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And the dress is probably
the best example of that.
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It's a really
powerful demonstration
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of how our color machinery
works.
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BERLIN:
So why do people see
this image
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of the dress differently?
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It comes down
to your brain's assumptions
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about the lighting conditions.
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It seems that the more
time you spend working indoors
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under artificial light,
which is predominantly yellow,
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the more likely you are to say
the dress is black and blue,
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because your brain assumes
it is lit by artificial light
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and subtracts out the yellow.
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Conversely, if you spend more
time
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in natural light,
which is bluer,
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you are more likely to see
it as white and gold.
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So then what is
the actual color of the dress?
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Well, Heather, I happen
to have brought it with me.
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(chuckles):
Wow.
So what color is it?
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Uh, it's obviously,
I was right, blue and black.
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Team blue and black
for the win.
Yes, yes.
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I can't believe this is the
actual dress.
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BERLIN:
I feel like I'm holding,
like...
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It's like a celebrity,
the dress.
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I know, it should be in a
museum, not in my closet.
Yes!
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(both laugh)
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Before the dress,
people hadn't really realized
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we differ so much between
individuals.
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We're now quite used to the idea
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that we all
differ on the outside.
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We all have differences in skin
color, in height, in shape.
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But just as we all differ
on the outside,
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we all
differ on the inside, too.
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And this inner diversity
is very important.
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It gives us a certain humility
about our own ways of seeing.
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BERLIN:
Illusions give us a ringside
seat
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to watch how the brain creates
our world.
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And it's not
just the visual domain.
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Try listening to this.
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(staticky computerized voice
playing)
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Brainstorm, right?
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Simple enough.
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Now, listen to this.
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(staticky computerized voice
playing)
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Green needle.
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Okay, so you're thinking,
"What's the big deal?"
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But, what if I tell you that the
two audio clips I just played
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were exactly identical?
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For most people, what you hear
depends on which label you read.
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Sounds unbelievable?
489
00:21:48,533 --> 00:21:53,066
Here, try it again,
but this time, just read one.
490
00:21:53,066 --> 00:21:55,000
(staticky computerized voice
playing)
491
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,800
Okay, now read the other
and listen again.
492
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,366
(staticky computerized voice
playing)
493
00:22:01,366 --> 00:22:03,033
Now, when I first encountered
this,
494
00:22:03,033 --> 00:22:04,800
I was floored, too.
495
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,000
Even though
I know what's going on.
496
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,233
When your brain
encounters uncertainty,
497
00:22:09,233 --> 00:22:11,966
it fills in the gaps with its
best guess.
498
00:22:11,966 --> 00:22:14,600
In this case,
we have a degraded audio clip,
499
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,333
and when you're primed with
a certain word to go with it,
500
00:22:17,333 --> 00:22:20,333
your brain automatically
jumps to the best fit.
501
00:22:20,333 --> 00:22:23,933
For most of us, we literally
hear what we want to hear.
502
00:22:23,933 --> 00:22:27,933
And it gets even worse--
let's try one more.
503
00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:30,433
Another internet sensation
504
00:22:30,433 --> 00:22:32,933
that lit up
debates across the country.
505
00:22:32,933 --> 00:22:37,733
(cleaner computerized voice
playing)
506
00:22:37,733 --> 00:22:39,633
Once and for all, is it yanny,
is it laurel?
507
00:22:39,633 --> 00:22:42,633
It's not yanny, it's laurel.
It's yanny!
508
00:22:42,633 --> 00:22:44,666
Did you hear yanny?
509
00:22:44,666 --> 00:22:45,733
(cheering and applauding)
510
00:22:45,733 --> 00:22:47,066
Who heard laurel?
511
00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:48,366
(cheering more loudly)
512
00:22:48,366 --> 00:22:51,000
It is laurel and not yanny.
513
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,333
(remix of computerized voice
playing)
514
00:22:53,333 --> 00:22:55,466
It's like that stupid dress
again
515
00:22:55,466 --> 00:22:57,700
all over, but in audio form!
516
00:22:57,700 --> 00:23:00,566
This is not saying "laurel,"
this is only saying "yanny."
517
00:23:00,566 --> 00:23:03,666
Exactly, it's laurel!
518
00:23:03,666 --> 00:23:06,700
Now, about half of you hear
yanny,
519
00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:08,566
and the other laurel,
520
00:23:08,566 --> 00:23:11,866
and unlike the first illusion,
I can't get most of you
521
00:23:11,866 --> 00:23:14,833
to experience
this one any other way.
522
00:23:14,833 --> 00:23:17,300
You're locked into your version
of reality.
523
00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:20,900
Experts aren't exactly sure why,
but some of us
524
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:24,500
seem to pay more attention
to the low frequencies, laurel,
525
00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:26,533
and others to the high, yanny.
526
00:23:26,533 --> 00:23:29,500
The divide stems from the fact
that the audio file
527
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:31,300
is an ambiguous signal made up
528
00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:33,366
of both high and low
frequencies.
529
00:23:33,366 --> 00:23:35,600
But by manipulating the
frequencies,
530
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,166
I might be able to change what
you hear.
531
00:23:38,166 --> 00:23:40,400
(computerized voice playing
at mid frequency)
532
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,400
High...
533
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,800
(voice plays at high frequency)
534
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,400
(voice plays at low frequency)
Low.
535
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,000
All of this goes to show
536
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,266
how much the brain
537
00:23:50,266 --> 00:23:52,733
is an active interpreter
of sensory input.
538
00:23:52,733 --> 00:23:54,933
Our perception of
the external world
539
00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:58,566
is actually much less objective
than we'd like to believe.
540
00:23:58,566 --> 00:24:00,733
Most of the world around us is
very real,
541
00:24:00,733 --> 00:24:03,700
but you just never lived there,
okay?
542
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:05,766
You lived in your mind,
543
00:24:05,766 --> 00:24:09,533
which is a perception of
that world that's being filtered
544
00:24:09,533 --> 00:24:12,433
through a bunch of salt
water sacks of proteins
545
00:24:12,433 --> 00:24:16,366
and electrochemical signals,
which can't possibly be making
546
00:24:16,366 --> 00:24:19,333
completely accurate
determinations
547
00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:22,233
of what's actually in the
outside world.
548
00:24:22,233 --> 00:24:25,566
Not convinced? Or maybe you're
just asking, "Why?"
549
00:24:25,566 --> 00:24:28,666
Well, try watching for when
the green dot flashes.
550
00:24:30,066 --> 00:24:32,200
Does it line up with the
red dot?
551
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,600
If you are like most people,
552
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,333
the red one always seems just a
little bit ahead.
553
00:24:36,333 --> 00:24:38,800
Now try again.
554
00:24:41,166 --> 00:24:45,100
The red dot and the green dot
are actually perfectly aligned.
555
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,066
That's because some
neuroscientists would say
556
00:24:48,066 --> 00:24:49,733
that it's not your brain's job
557
00:24:49,733 --> 00:24:51,633
to perceive
the world accurately.
558
00:24:51,633 --> 00:24:54,733
Rather, its job is to
predict what happens next.
559
00:24:54,733 --> 00:24:58,566
To a certain extent,
you see what you expect to see:
560
00:24:58,566 --> 00:25:00,766
a predicted path of motion.
561
00:25:00,766 --> 00:25:03,233
And this is what helps
us hit a home run
562
00:25:03,233 --> 00:25:07,400
or flinch from a punch at just
the right moment.
563
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:11,966
The brain is a predicting
machine.
564
00:25:11,966 --> 00:25:16,666
Given a set of circumstances
in this story at this moment,
565
00:25:16,666 --> 00:25:20,500
what are the likely plausible
566
00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:24,066
next events in the story?
567
00:25:24,066 --> 00:25:26,733
SETH:
The brain is
using sensory information
568
00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:28,500
to calibrate,
569
00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:30,900
update, to fine-tune these
predictions
570
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:32,666
so they remain tied
571
00:25:32,666 --> 00:25:36,333
to reality in ways that are not
constrained by accuracy,
572
00:25:36,333 --> 00:25:39,100
but that are constrained by how
useful
573
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:41,200
the brain's perceptual
predictions are
574
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,300
in the business of staying
alive.
575
00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:52,833
BERLIN:
And to keep us alive,
the brain has evolved
576
00:25:52,833 --> 00:25:55,333
to look for signals
of potential danger.
577
00:25:55,333 --> 00:25:57,733
One of the most important
is pain,
578
00:25:57,733 --> 00:26:01,066
and as neuroscientist Theanne
Griffith is about to show me,
579
00:26:01,066 --> 00:26:03,966
sometimes that can be
a kind of illusion, as well.
580
00:26:03,966 --> 00:26:05,700
BERLIN:
So what is this?
581
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:09,100
GRIFFITH:
This is a thermal grill.
Okay.
582
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,533
This is a machine
that could give us some insight
583
00:26:11,533 --> 00:26:14,566
as to how pain works in your
brain.
584
00:26:14,566 --> 00:26:16,433
All right, this is making me
nervous already
585
00:26:16,433 --> 00:26:17,966
as I'm getting strapped in!
(Griffith laughs)
586
00:26:17,966 --> 00:26:20,600
GRIFFITH:
Don't worry,
it's all an illusion, actually.
587
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,466
Okay.
588
00:26:22,466 --> 00:26:25,333
And it's comprised of these
different metal bars
589
00:26:25,333 --> 00:26:27,366
that are either set
to a cold or warm temperature.
590
00:26:27,366 --> 00:26:30,266
So why don't you go
ahead and touch that first bar?
591
00:26:30,266 --> 00:26:32,433
It's warm, right?
592
00:26:32,433 --> 00:26:34,066
And then the next bar?
593
00:26:34,066 --> 00:26:35,800
Cold.
Mm-hmm.
594
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,500
GRIFFITH:
And then the next one, warm.
595
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:39,233
You see? So they're alternating
cold, warm, cold, warm.
BERLIN: Mm-hmm.
596
00:26:39,233 --> 00:26:40,833
Now, you want to see what
happens
597
00:26:40,833 --> 00:26:42,433
when you put your hand down?
598
00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:44,233
Not necessarily.
(both laugh)
599
00:26:44,233 --> 00:26:46,700
Go ahead.
Okay.
600
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:48,066
Okay, here we go.
601
00:26:48,066 --> 00:26:49,600
BERLIN:
Ow!
602
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,300
GRIFFITH:
Right? Isn't that interesting?
Whoa!
603
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,233
Yeah,
what is going on there?
604
00:26:53,233 --> 00:26:54,966
It sort of feels cold at first,
but then...
605
00:26:54,966 --> 00:26:57,300
Then it gets this kind of
burning sensation, right?
606
00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:58,966
Yes, very much so.
607
00:26:58,966 --> 00:27:02,000
BERLIN:
It feels super-hot,
like I'm getting burnt.
608
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,233
So it's not 100% clear
exactly how this is happening.
609
00:27:05,233 --> 00:27:07,466
But what we think might be going
on
610
00:27:07,466 --> 00:27:09,233
is that, basically, your brain
611
00:27:09,233 --> 00:27:11,100
is getting a little bit
confused.
612
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:12,166
Okay.
It's feeling cold,
613
00:27:12,166 --> 00:27:14,433
and it's also feeling warmth.
614
00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:18,100
And somehow, it's interpreting
these two signals as pain.
615
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:22,333
BERLIN:
Here's what neuroscientists
think is going on.
616
00:27:22,333 --> 00:27:25,133
In your hands, you have
separate sensors for heat,
617
00:27:25,133 --> 00:27:27,333
cold, and pain.
618
00:27:27,333 --> 00:27:30,400
Normally, when you touch
something slightly cold,
619
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,300
both your cold and pain sensors
are activated,
620
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,400
but the cold ones
override the signals
621
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,900
from the pain sensors,
622
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,333
telling your brain there's
nothing to worry about.
623
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:41,566
Unless, in this very
unnatural scenario
624
00:27:41,566 --> 00:27:44,166
with the thermal grill,
you happen to be touching
625
00:27:44,166 --> 00:27:46,833
something warm at the same time.
626
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:49,933
Here, the heat signals
cancel out the cold ones,
627
00:27:49,933 --> 00:27:52,633
leaving you with just
the pain ones activated,
628
00:27:52,633 --> 00:27:56,100
telling your brain, "Ouch!"
629
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,333
So in that respect,
is pain real?
630
00:27:58,333 --> 00:28:00,266
Mm-hmm.
Or is it just an illusion
631
00:28:00,266 --> 00:28:01,533
or a construct of the brain?
632
00:28:01,533 --> 00:28:03,133
That's a really good
question.
633
00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:06,633
So noxious stimuli
is, is a real thing, right?
634
00:28:06,633 --> 00:28:08,466
If you stick
your hand in boiling water,
635
00:28:08,466 --> 00:28:10,066
that's an aversive stimulus.
636
00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:15,266
The perception
of a noxious stimuli is real.
Mm-hmm.
637
00:28:15,266 --> 00:28:17,500
Pain is more of a construct,
right?
Mm-hmm.
638
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,833
And it can vary from
individual to individual.
639
00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:23,700
EMERY BROWN:
Pain is a construct of the
brain.
640
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:25,566
How do we know that?
641
00:28:25,566 --> 00:28:28,200
You touch a needle, right?
And prick your finger.
642
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000
We can draw the anatomy
of what just happened.
643
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,366
We have very well-defined
pathways
644
00:28:34,366 --> 00:28:36,600
saying, "This is pain
information."
645
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:42,133
We don't interpret it as pain
until it hits your brain.
646
00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:44,466
BERLIN: Pain, not unlike the
experience of color,
647
00:28:44,466 --> 00:28:47,000
is a construct of the mind.
648
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,300
Mama! Mama!
649
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:50,100
BERLIN: But just because pain is
in your brain
650
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:53,033
doesn't make it any
less critical for survival.
651
00:28:53,033 --> 00:28:54,666
GRIFFITH: Pain is a
very important...
652
00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:58,333
(gasps)
...learning mechanism
for children.
653
00:28:58,333 --> 00:29:01,000
They learn what behaviors
they can engage in that are safe
654
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,766
and what behaviors, well,
they should not engage in
655
00:29:03,766 --> 00:29:06,566
because they could cause
them bodily harm.
656
00:29:06,566 --> 00:29:09,700
And there's, um, uh, different
mutations that people can have
657
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:11,766
in certain proteins
that make them
658
00:29:11,766 --> 00:29:13,533
completely insensitive to pain.
659
00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:15,733
And so kids do things
like bite on their lips
660
00:29:15,733 --> 00:29:18,300
or on their fingers
when they're very young,
661
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:21,366
and as they get older,
can engage in risky behavior.
662
00:29:21,366 --> 00:29:25,900
So pain is extremely
important for us to feel.
663
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:29,400
SETH:
Illusions are fascinating.
664
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,566
They're like fractures in the
matrix.
665
00:29:31,566 --> 00:29:34,666
They reveal to us that the way
we perceive things
666
00:29:34,666 --> 00:29:37,300
isn't necessarily the way they
are.
667
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:40,800
MACKNIK:
Illusions help us find the
cracks in the mortar
668
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,166
of that world we've built for
ourselves,
669
00:29:43,166 --> 00:29:46,633
and understand what it is our
world is actually made out of
670
00:29:46,633 --> 00:29:48,500
and what the brain is actually
doing.
671
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:50,966
So most people think of the
brain
672
00:29:50,966 --> 00:29:54,500
reconstructing the world more
or less verbatim.
673
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:56,533
(dog growling)
But that's just not true.
674
00:29:56,533 --> 00:29:58,266
What it's actually doing is,
675
00:29:58,266 --> 00:29:59,666
it's getting very little
information
676
00:29:59,666 --> 00:30:02,666
and it's using that very little
information
677
00:30:02,666 --> 00:30:05,366
to make a big, grand model
of the world.
678
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,033
MARTINEZ-CONDE:
We cannot process the vast
amount of information
679
00:30:10,033 --> 00:30:14,966
that is constantly bombarding
our senses.
680
00:30:14,966 --> 00:30:17,333
Illusions, you can
think of them as shortcuts.
681
00:30:17,333 --> 00:30:20,833
Shortcuts make us faster,
682
00:30:20,833 --> 00:30:24,366
more efficient
with less resources.
683
00:30:24,366 --> 00:30:27,066
Based on
these snippets of information,
684
00:30:27,066 --> 00:30:32,533
we build this more
complex simulation of reality.
685
00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:34,933
And that simulation
of the world is
686
00:30:34,933 --> 00:30:36,066
what we call consciousness.
687
00:30:38,366 --> 00:30:40,200
BERLIN:
Consciousness.
688
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,833
(alarm buzzing)
We take it for granted,
but every time you wake up,
689
00:30:43,833 --> 00:30:47,866
(alarm stops)
your brain stitches together
all your sensory inputs--
690
00:30:47,866 --> 00:30:49,766
the sound of a distant train...
691
00:30:49,766 --> 00:30:51,533
(train whistle blowing)
692
00:30:51,533 --> 00:30:53,766
...the smell of coffee,
693
00:30:53,766 --> 00:30:56,666
the warmth of the sun--
694
00:30:56,666 --> 00:30:59,200
into an experience of the world.
695
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,100
And that experience,
696
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:03,333
that awareness of the world,
697
00:31:03,333 --> 00:31:06,666
is what scientists
call consciousness.
698
00:31:06,666 --> 00:31:10,000
In neuroscience,
consciousness is the Holy Grail.
699
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,800
Humans have been fascinated by
consciousness
700
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,666
for thousands of years,
probably much longer than that.
(chuckling)
701
00:31:15,666 --> 00:31:17,466
Take three.
702
00:31:17,466 --> 00:31:19,566
Now, of course,
the word "consciousness"
703
00:31:19,566 --> 00:31:21,500
means a lot of
things to different people.
704
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:23,666
To some, consciousness means
being awake,
705
00:31:23,666 --> 00:31:25,100
as opposed to asleep.
706
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,666
Or self-aware, or the
contents of my thoughts.
707
00:31:28,666 --> 00:31:31,800
But that's not how we
neuroscientists think about it.
708
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,700
We think of it as something
much more basic--
709
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:39,300
it's just internal experience.
710
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:42,600
It feels like
something to see the color red.
711
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,866
To taste a strawberry.
712
00:31:44,866 --> 00:31:46,200
(thunder rumbling)
713
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000
To hear the crack of thunder.
714
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,500
(thunder crashing)
715
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:55,900
SETH:
We are complicated
biological creatures,
716
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:58,200
but the most central
feature of our lives
717
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,533
is that we are
conscious creatures, too.
718
00:32:00,533 --> 00:32:02,266
When I open my eyes,
719
00:32:02,266 --> 00:32:05,500
it's not just that my brain does
some sophisticated processing
720
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:06,600
of the visual information.
721
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,333
I have an experience.
722
00:32:09,333 --> 00:32:11,366
BERLIN:
During the course of my journey,
723
00:32:11,366 --> 00:32:13,266
I've seen how our experience
of reality
724
00:32:13,266 --> 00:32:14,900
is not what it seems.
725
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,333
If my conscious awareness
726
00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:19,866
is built from my perceptions,
flawed as they may be,
727
00:32:19,866 --> 00:32:24,366
how does that work
and what does it mean?
728
00:32:24,366 --> 00:32:27,333
♪ ♪
729
00:32:27,333 --> 00:32:29,200
So please take a seat.
730
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,533
BERLIN:
Some of the first clues trickled
in from people like this.
731
00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:34,366
LORELLA BATTELLI:
Put your chin on the
chin rest.
732
00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:35,933
BROWN:
A lot of very valuable
information
733
00:32:35,933 --> 00:32:39,700
comes from patients who've had,
part of the brain's damaged.
734
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:43,366
By piecing these various parts
together, seeing what was lost,
735
00:32:43,366 --> 00:32:45,300
we've come to appreciate
the role
736
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:46,966
that these various brain regions
play
737
00:32:46,966 --> 00:32:48,866
in the creation of
consciousness.
738
00:32:48,866 --> 00:32:50,833
We're going to
calibrate your eyes first.
739
00:32:50,833 --> 00:32:53,100
SETH:
A powerful example of this
740
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,233
is the phenomenon of blindsight.
741
00:32:55,233 --> 00:32:58,633
BATTELLI:
This is a patient who had a
stroke
742
00:32:58,633 --> 00:33:00,333
in her visual areas,
743
00:33:00,333 --> 00:33:02,033
in the back of the brain.
744
00:33:02,033 --> 00:33:04,466
And this stroke is
affecting her visual field.
745
00:33:04,466 --> 00:33:08,100
BERLIN:
Three years ago,
she felt a pounding in her head.
746
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,400
WOMAN:
I had what
I thought was a migraine.
747
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,233
I actually went
to the emergency room
748
00:33:13,233 --> 00:33:15,666
because I'm walking around with
this area where I can't see.
749
00:33:15,666 --> 00:33:18,200
BERLIN:
The stroke damaged
a piece of the brain
750
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,800
devoted to vision,
leaving her with an apparent
751
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,533
total blind spot.
752
00:33:22,533 --> 00:33:25,633
WOMAN:
That blind spot, it's enough
that if you're driving,
753
00:33:25,633 --> 00:33:30,000
an oncoming car disappears into
it.
754
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,833
It's a little anxiety-producing
and, and things like that.
755
00:33:33,833 --> 00:33:35,600
BERLIN:
In everyday tasks,
756
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,000
her eye movements make up
the difference.
757
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,333
But what happens when
she doesn't move her eyes?
758
00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:43,600
Neuroscientist Lorella
Battelli wants to find out,
759
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,733
so she developed a clever series
of experiments to pin down,
760
00:33:47,733 --> 00:33:49,766
just how blind is
she really in that spot?
761
00:33:51,133 --> 00:33:52,666
BATTELLI:
We're using EyeLink,
762
00:33:52,666 --> 00:33:55,066
which is the eye-tracking system
763
00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:56,900
to make sure she doesn't move
the eyes.
764
00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:59,266
BERLIN:
She keeps her eyes focused on
the center spot.
765
00:33:59,266 --> 00:34:01,833
Every time she hears a beep,
766
00:34:01,833 --> 00:34:03,733
she has to say if those little
dots inside the circle
767
00:34:03,733 --> 00:34:05,966
are moving to the left
or to the right.
768
00:34:05,966 --> 00:34:07,900
Left.
769
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:10,966
BERLIN:
The eye tracker checks that
she's not shifting her gaze.
770
00:34:12,166 --> 00:34:13,633
WOMAN:
Right.
771
00:34:13,633 --> 00:34:15,533
When you're doing tests like
this,
772
00:34:15,533 --> 00:34:18,533
that blind area, what does that
kind of look like for you?
773
00:34:18,533 --> 00:34:20,400
What does it feel like for you?
774
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,800
When that target pops up
in my blind area,
775
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,433
I don't see it.
776
00:34:26,433 --> 00:34:28,700
(machine beeps)
777
00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:30,600
Left.
778
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,533
BERLIN:
Strangely, even though she says
she doesn't see
779
00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:34,366
anything in the blind spot,
780
00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:35,933
she gets it right more often
than not.
781
00:34:35,933 --> 00:34:37,966
WOMAN:
Right.
782
00:34:37,966 --> 00:34:39,233
BERLIN:
So that some information
783
00:34:39,233 --> 00:34:40,300
is getting in.
Yeah, so...
784
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:42,766
But they're not consciously
seeing it,
785
00:34:42,766 --> 00:34:44,666
but they can respond
to it in different ways.
Exactly.
786
00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:47,800
BATTELLI:
Even if they say,
"I didn't see anything."
787
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,966
Left.
But you tell them,
"Please, just tell me
788
00:34:49,966 --> 00:34:51,966
whether you saw it or not,"
789
00:34:51,966 --> 00:34:53,900
then their response
would be above chance.
790
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:56,733
BERLIN:
So just keep your eyes closed,
okay?
791
00:34:56,733 --> 00:34:58,733
And...
792
00:34:58,733 --> 00:35:00,833
BERLIN:
What's going on?
793
00:35:00,833 --> 00:35:03,200
To probe deeper,
Lorella lets me give the patient
794
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,066
a different
version of the challenge.
795
00:35:06,066 --> 00:35:08,700
I put a miniature
screwdriver in her blind spot.
796
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:11,933
BERLIN:
Okay, I'm going to have
you open your eyes and fixate.
797
00:35:11,933 --> 00:35:13,966
Okay.
Okay.
798
00:35:16,066 --> 00:35:17,300
I see nothing.
799
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:18,300
You see nothing.
800
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:19,533
Nothing.
Okay.
801
00:35:19,533 --> 00:35:20,833
BERLIN:
Even though she says
802
00:35:20,833 --> 00:35:23,500
she sees nothing,
look at which tool she picks.
803
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,433
Now turn over there
and look at the objects.
804
00:35:25,433 --> 00:35:26,466
Tell me what you think
you saw.
805
00:35:26,466 --> 00:35:29,200
WOMAN: The screwdriver.
BERLIN: Yep.
806
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,266
BERLIN:
Now try another one.
807
00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:34,366
BERLIN:
Next, I display a tiny wrench.
808
00:35:34,366 --> 00:35:38,800
♪ ♪
809
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,366
Did you see anything?
810
00:35:40,366 --> 00:35:42,133
No.
No? Okay.
811
00:35:42,133 --> 00:35:46,100
Look over there and guess
what you think you, was there.
812
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:49,300
I think the wrench?
Yep.
813
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:51,533
WOMAN:
I'm going to guess
the scissors.
814
00:35:51,533 --> 00:35:53,700
Yeah, good job, great,
scissors.
815
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:55,033
BERLIN:
Time and time again,
816
00:35:55,033 --> 00:35:56,900
she makes the right choice.
817
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:58,833
Amazing, so, you know,
it seems
818
00:35:58,833 --> 00:36:01,100
to me that you're saying you're
not seeing anything,
819
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,966
yet when
I'm asking you to choose,
820
00:36:03,966 --> 00:36:06,033
you're pretty much getting it
correct,
821
00:36:06,033 --> 00:36:07,533
so something is getting in.
822
00:36:07,533 --> 00:36:10,166
BERLIN:
How is this possible?
823
00:36:10,166 --> 00:36:13,100
It's as if she sees
the tools, but doesn't know it.
824
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,933
BATTELLI:
They actually saw something.
825
00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:17,466
Mm-hmm, certainly.
But they're
not entirely aware of it.
826
00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:19,633
Information is getting in,
affecting our behavior
827
00:36:19,633 --> 00:36:21,433
and how we're responding
to the world around us,
828
00:36:21,433 --> 00:36:23,400
without there being
a conscious perception
829
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,766
of that piece
of visual information.
Correct.
830
00:36:25,766 --> 00:36:27,800
WOMAN:
I'm gonna go
with the hammer again.
831
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,533
BERLIN:
Until patients like this,
we scientists had never seen
832
00:36:32,533 --> 00:36:35,166
perception separate
from conscious experience.
833
00:36:35,166 --> 00:36:37,266
And this tells us that
perception
834
00:36:37,266 --> 00:36:40,566
and consciousness are separate
things in the brain.
835
00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:42,466
But it also has me wondering,
836
00:36:42,466 --> 00:36:44,800
if someone can still use
visual information
837
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,733
without awareness of it,
838
00:36:46,733 --> 00:36:48,800
why do we have
consciousness at all?
839
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,166
What is consciousness for?
840
00:36:51,166 --> 00:36:53,400
A clue might come from babies.
841
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,400
(cooing)
842
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,333
ALISON GOPNIK:
Babies-- everything we know
suggests
843
00:36:57,333 --> 00:36:59,200
that they're born conscious.
844
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,533
They're certainly taking
in information
845
00:37:00,533 --> 00:37:01,800
from the time they're born.
846
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,200
REBECCA SAXE:
They are making rational choices
847
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,733
about what they learn
from extremely early on.
848
00:37:07,733 --> 00:37:11,400
And they are forming memories
of their specific surroundings,
849
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,766
of their parents,
850
00:37:12,766 --> 00:37:14,833
of their important
relationships.
851
00:37:14,833 --> 00:37:17,200
We can see that
in their behavior.
852
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,066
BERLIN:
And all that behavior
burns a lot of fuel.
853
00:37:21,066 --> 00:37:23,900
GOPNIK:
Brains are expensive computing
gadgets.
854
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:25,366
So while you're just sitting
here,
855
00:37:25,366 --> 00:37:28,100
your brain is using up about 20%
of all the calories
856
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,133
that you have, so
it's using up quite a bit.
857
00:37:30,133 --> 00:37:32,300
But if you think about
a two-year-old,
858
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:36,200
his brain is using
60% of his calories.
859
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:41,833
So almost all that food is just
going to keep his brain going.
860
00:37:41,833 --> 00:37:45,066
BERLIN:
To understand why young brains
might need so much more fuel,
861
00:37:45,066 --> 00:37:47,833
check out the connections
in a toddler's brain
862
00:37:47,833 --> 00:37:49,633
versus an adult's.
863
00:37:49,633 --> 00:37:53,633
A two-year-old's brain has about
two quadrillion synapses.
864
00:37:53,633 --> 00:37:58,566
By the time they hit adulthood,
that number is cut in half.
865
00:37:58,566 --> 00:38:00,700
So if you think about the
difference between
866
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:03,133
the baby brain, the child's
brain, and the adult brain,
867
00:38:03,133 --> 00:38:07,166
the child's brain is more like
back country roads
868
00:38:07,166 --> 00:38:09,100
where you have little,
tiny roads
869
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:11,800
that are going
from one village to the next.
870
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,900
None of
them are very efficient.
871
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:15,066
There's not a lot of traffic,
872
00:38:15,066 --> 00:38:16,966
and the traffic doesn't go very
quickly,
873
00:38:16,966 --> 00:38:18,933
but they connect lots
and lots of different places.
874
00:38:18,933 --> 00:38:21,633
And the adult brain is more
like superhighways
875
00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:24,400
that get you from one place
to another very quickly,
876
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,133
and take a lot of traffic,
877
00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:28,833
but don't connect as many
different places.
878
00:38:28,833 --> 00:38:31,333
BERLIN:
As we age,
in the interest of efficiency,
879
00:38:31,333 --> 00:38:34,133
we strengthen the connections
that are useful to us
880
00:38:34,133 --> 00:38:36,266
and prune the rest.
881
00:38:36,266 --> 00:38:39,433
MACKNIK:
You basically take neurons you
don't need, you get rid of them.
882
00:38:39,433 --> 00:38:42,533
And what you have
now is a very lean machine
883
00:38:42,533 --> 00:38:47,433
that does certain things
and it does them very well.
884
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:51,100
GOPNIK:
We see this early brain
that's very exploratory,
885
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,900
that has lots and lots of
potential,
886
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:54,100
lots of possibilities.
887
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,400
Not very good at
putting on your jacket
888
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,466
and getting out to
preschool in the morning.
889
00:38:58,466 --> 00:39:00,000
And then we have this
later brain
890
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,833
that's very good at doing
things.
891
00:39:01,833 --> 00:39:03,200
Not so good at changing,
892
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,800
not so good at taking in new
information,
893
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,066
not so good at doing something
new.
894
00:39:06,066 --> 00:39:08,766
BERLIN:
What this suggests is that maybe
895
00:39:08,766 --> 00:39:10,266
what consciousness is for
896
00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:12,600
is choosing what's
important for us to be aware of
897
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,133
at any given moment.
898
00:39:14,133 --> 00:39:16,633
Kind of like a spotlight.
899
00:39:16,633 --> 00:39:19,133
GOPNICK:
For adults,
it's as if consciousness is
900
00:39:19,133 --> 00:39:20,633
this bright spotlight in
one place
901
00:39:20,633 --> 00:39:22,000
and everything around it is
dark.
902
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,666
BERLIN:
While for children and babies,
903
00:39:25,666 --> 00:39:27,333
it would be
more like a flood light,
904
00:39:27,333 --> 00:39:29,633
where nearly everything is
illuminated.
905
00:39:29,633 --> 00:39:33,300
GOPNIK:
You're conscious of a lot more
that's going on.
906
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:36,166
BERLIN:
Consciousness may
be like an amplifier,
907
00:39:36,166 --> 00:39:38,733
boosting the important
signals over the noise.
908
00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:40,766
Is there any evidence?
909
00:39:42,166 --> 00:39:44,433
This is where FMRI comes in,
910
00:39:44,433 --> 00:39:47,066
a special tool in neuroscience
that takes pictures of the brain
911
00:39:47,066 --> 00:39:49,733
while it's doing something
to map where blood flow
912
00:39:49,733 --> 00:39:50,966
is in high demand.
913
00:39:50,966 --> 00:39:53,600
The result is
a map of brain activity.
914
00:39:54,766 --> 00:39:57,600
So where is consciousness
in the brain
915
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,566
and how does it work?
916
00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:02,433
To find out,
neuroscientists designed
917
00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:05,500
a clever series of
experiments that go like this.
918
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,766
They start by flashing a word
919
00:40:07,766 --> 00:40:10,233
on a screen for about
30 milliseconds.
920
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:11,233
(computer beeps)
921
00:40:11,233 --> 00:40:12,633
DEHAENE:
You flash this word,
922
00:40:12,633 --> 00:40:15,200
and the person is not
able to see the word at all.
923
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,900
She says, "There was no word."
924
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:21,100
BERLIN:
But in the FMRI scanner,
the visual cortex is activated,
925
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:24,633
even though people say
they don't see anything.
926
00:40:24,633 --> 00:40:27,700
So the trick here is to find the
threshold.
927
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:30,533
Find the timing where sometimes
928
00:40:30,533 --> 00:40:33,200
people consciously see the
image.
929
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,900
DEHAENE:
So if you make now
the word a little bit longer,
930
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:39,466
suddenly, the person says,
931
00:40:39,466 --> 00:40:41,133
"Oh, well,
there is a word, obviously."
932
00:40:41,133 --> 00:40:43,366
And it's completely visible.
933
00:40:43,366 --> 00:40:45,766
There is really a sort
of all or none phenomenon.
934
00:40:45,766 --> 00:40:47,566
Either you see it or you don't.
935
00:40:47,566 --> 00:40:49,800
And once you've done that,
936
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,433
you've got
a really powerful window
937
00:40:51,433 --> 00:40:54,200
onto the neural correlates of
conscious perception.
938
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,666
BERLIN:
When that happens,
939
00:40:56,666 --> 00:40:58,633
suddenly, a suite of different
parts of the brain
940
00:40:58,633 --> 00:41:02,033
shows a surge in activity:
the parietal cortex,
941
00:41:02,033 --> 00:41:03,800
which integrates the senses,
942
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,433
the anterior cingulate,
943
00:41:05,433 --> 00:41:07,433
which modulates
drive and decision-making,
944
00:41:07,433 --> 00:41:09,066
and the prefrontal cortex,
945
00:41:09,066 --> 00:41:13,000
which handles reasoning
and higher-order cognition.
946
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,700
An ignition of
distributed brain areas
947
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:18,633
that come online together,
speak to each other,
948
00:41:18,633 --> 00:41:21,800
and broadcast this information
to the rest of the brain.
949
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,133
And this is what
we think is occurring
950
00:41:23,133 --> 00:41:24,633
during conscious perception.
951
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,100
BERLIN:
According to some experts,
952
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,233
this communication
between brain regions
953
00:41:30,233 --> 00:41:32,466
is the signature
of consciousness.
954
00:41:33,833 --> 00:41:36,766
This discovery could have
real-world applications
955
00:41:36,766 --> 00:41:38,400
in matters of life and death.
956
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,266
But that would take one
more step:
957
00:41:40,266 --> 00:41:43,866
figuring out how
to measure consciousness.
958
00:41:43,866 --> 00:41:45,733
♪ ♪
959
00:41:45,733 --> 00:41:47,800
SETH:
In science, when we struggle
to understand
960
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,600
a phenomenon
that seems quite mysterious,
961
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,233
it's often really important
to be able to measure it.
962
00:41:53,233 --> 00:41:55,533
So a few hundred years
ago,
963
00:41:55,533 --> 00:41:58,133
this happened with heat-- you
know, it was the development
964
00:41:58,133 --> 00:42:02,100
of thermometers that catalyzed
our understanding.
965
00:42:02,933 --> 00:42:05,133
Could something work for
consciousness the same way?
966
00:42:05,133 --> 00:42:07,300
Could we have
a consciousness-ometer
967
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:08,700
that will lead us
968
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,933
to a deeper understanding of
what consciousness is?
969
00:42:11,933 --> 00:42:15,300
BERLIN:
That deeper understanding
could transform
970
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,666
the treatment of people with
brain injuries.
971
00:42:17,666 --> 00:42:20,633
BRIAN EDLOW:
So every year,
over a million people worldwide
972
00:42:20,633 --> 00:42:24,300
will come into an intensive care
unit unresponsive, comatose.
973
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:27,166
The challenge that we face
is that our bedside exam--
974
00:42:27,166 --> 00:42:29,100
asking the person
to open their eyes,
975
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,533
pinching them and
seeing if they'll respond,
976
00:42:31,533 --> 00:42:33,500
seeing if they move their arms
and their legs--
977
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:36,600
that bedside exam
is fundamentally limited.
978
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,400
BERLIN:
Limited because it often misses
people
979
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,200
who are actually conscious.
980
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,933
In this case,
we have a healthy volunteer
981
00:42:43,933 --> 00:42:45,733
from the "NOVA" team,
982
00:42:45,733 --> 00:42:47,333
but what if
she were unresponsive?
983
00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:50,066
How would we ever know
if she was conscious?
984
00:42:50,066 --> 00:42:52,133
Brian Edlow's team
at Mass. General Hospital
985
00:42:52,133 --> 00:42:55,166
is testing a new technique
to find out.
986
00:42:55,166 --> 00:42:57,300
So tell me, what are you doing
here?
987
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,000
EDLOW:
We are pinging the brain
with a magnetic pulse
988
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,566
and looking for
an electrical echo.
989
00:43:02,566 --> 00:43:06,266
The ping is transcranial
magnetic stimulation,
990
00:43:06,266 --> 00:43:07,900
or TMS.
991
00:43:07,900 --> 00:43:10,866
The echo is the key;
if it dies out quickly,
992
00:43:10,866 --> 00:43:13,166
the patient is unconscious--
they might be in a coma,
993
00:43:13,166 --> 00:43:15,200
deep sleep, or under anesthesia.
994
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,766
If instead the echo rings out
across the brain
995
00:43:18,766 --> 00:43:20,666
and becomes more complex,
996
00:43:20,666 --> 00:43:23,600
the patient is likely
to be conscious and aware,
997
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,200
even if they appear
unresponsive.
998
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,266
EDLOW:
The analogy that we like
to use
999
00:43:27,266 --> 00:43:30,000
is throwing a pebble in a lake.
1000
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,400
So the pebble represents the TMS
pulse to stimulate the brain,
1001
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,166
and the brain waves,
the electrical ripples
1002
00:43:36,166 --> 00:43:41,233
that emanate from that pulse,
represent the waves in the lake.
1003
00:43:41,233 --> 00:43:43,433
The more
complex those waves are,
1004
00:43:43,433 --> 00:43:45,466
and the longer duration,
1005
00:43:45,466 --> 00:43:47,533
the more likely that person is
to be conscious.
1006
00:43:49,033 --> 00:43:52,466
BERLIN:
To detect those brain waves,
Edlow's team uses E.E.G.,
1007
00:43:52,466 --> 00:43:54,966
a tool that measures
electrical activity
1008
00:43:54,966 --> 00:43:57,800
in the brain, to quantify
the amount of complexity
1009
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,200
a patient's brain bounces back.
1010
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,533
Here's how it works.
1011
00:44:01,533 --> 00:44:02,766
♪ ♪
1012
00:44:02,766 --> 00:44:04,900
All neurons,
when poked by a magnet,
1013
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:08,100
will kick back an electrical
signal that looks like this:
1014
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,733
a brain wave.
1015
00:44:09,733 --> 00:44:11,833
But if the surrounding neurons
aren't healthy,
1016
00:44:11,833 --> 00:44:15,233
those brain waves won't get
very far.
1017
00:44:15,233 --> 00:44:17,466
It turns out that
in conscious people,
1018
00:44:17,466 --> 00:44:19,700
even those
who appear unresponsive,
1019
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:22,966
not only do those brain
waves spread all over the brain,
1020
00:44:22,966 --> 00:44:26,366
but they become more complex
too-- it's as if,
1021
00:44:26,366 --> 00:44:28,466
to use music as the analogy,
1022
00:44:28,466 --> 00:44:31,933
what starts as a single repeated
note by a few neurons
1023
00:44:31,933 --> 00:44:35,733
eventually turns into
a coordinated symphony
1024
00:44:35,733 --> 00:44:37,500
of millions.
1025
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:39,933
♪ ♪
1026
00:44:39,933 --> 00:44:43,900
DEHAENE:
We find is that there
is this explosion of complexity
1027
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:45,500
only when
the person is conscious.
1028
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:47,033
This complexity,
1029
00:44:47,033 --> 00:44:49,166
the way different brain areas
speak to each other,
1030
00:44:49,166 --> 00:44:52,066
is a signature,
a marker of consciousness.
1031
00:44:52,066 --> 00:44:55,366
BERLIN:
Studies of hundreds of
patients in various states--
1032
00:44:55,366 --> 00:44:58,000
from deep sleep to anesthesia
to coma--
1033
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,800
have enabled scientists
to develop a complexity scale.
1034
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,766
A score above
a certain threshold
1035
00:45:03,766 --> 00:45:08,333
means you are conscious or have
the capacity for consciousness.
1036
00:45:08,333 --> 00:45:10,000
EDLOW:
Multiple studies have now shown
1037
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,800
that 15% to 20% of patients who
appear unresponsive,
1038
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,766
they don't express themselves on
our behavioral exam,
1039
00:45:16,766 --> 00:45:18,533
they are actually conscious.
1040
00:45:18,533 --> 00:45:20,400
So, you know,
will this be able
1041
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,566
to help
people in those states?
1042
00:45:22,566 --> 00:45:24,166
When we speak to families
1043
00:45:24,166 --> 00:45:26,033
about what matters to them most,
1044
00:45:26,033 --> 00:45:29,266
it is that patient's
current level of consciousness
1045
00:45:29,266 --> 00:45:33,266
and their potential for future
recovery of consciousness.
1046
00:45:33,266 --> 00:45:34,833
If families were to have
1047
00:45:34,833 --> 00:45:37,400
that information,
it could fundamentally affect
1048
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,666
the decisions they make about
1049
00:45:38,666 --> 00:45:40,366
whether to continue
life-sustaining therapy.
1050
00:45:42,133 --> 00:45:46,566
DEHAENE:
Progress in the clinic
is extremely real and fast,
1051
00:45:46,566 --> 00:45:48,866
and people realize that the
problem of consciousness
1052
00:45:48,866 --> 00:45:50,433
is starting to be solved.
1053
00:45:50,433 --> 00:45:53,333
♪ ♪
1054
00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:55,233
BERLIN:
Starting to be solved,
1055
00:45:55,233 --> 00:45:57,000
because while we have
several clues
1056
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,233
about how conscious awareness
might work in the brain,
1057
00:45:59,233 --> 00:46:01,700
this is only the beginning.
1058
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,600
How all of those pieces
of brain activation add up
1059
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,866
to you, a distinct individual
with a sense of self,
1060
00:46:07,866 --> 00:46:09,266
is still a mystery.
1061
00:46:09,266 --> 00:46:11,866
I know my brain creates
an internal experience
1062
00:46:11,866 --> 00:46:14,366
by knitting together bits
of sensory information,
1063
00:46:14,366 --> 00:46:16,333
filling in the gaps with its
best guess
1064
00:46:16,333 --> 00:46:18,166
of what's out there in the
world,
1065
00:46:18,166 --> 00:46:21,333
but what are those guesses
based on?
1066
00:46:21,333 --> 00:46:23,866
Memory.
1067
00:46:23,866 --> 00:46:27,766
Each of us has a life rich
with experiences to draw from.
1068
00:46:27,766 --> 00:46:30,166
Where we were born,
went to school,
1069
00:46:30,166 --> 00:46:32,300
who we fell in love with.
1070
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:35,033
Memories are the cornerstone
of our identities,
1071
00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:36,500
but as it turns out,
1072
00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:39,533
they have
a very shaky foundation.
1073
00:46:39,533 --> 00:46:41,966
I could swear by it,
1074
00:46:41,966 --> 00:46:44,233
and would pass every
lie detector test, that...
1075
00:46:44,233 --> 00:46:45,733
I had met Mother Teresa.
1076
00:46:45,733 --> 00:46:46,833
But I hadn't.
1077
00:46:46,833 --> 00:46:48,400
Something that I wanted to
happen
1078
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,633
but it never did happen.
1079
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,766
SCHILLER:
The stories we tell
1080
00:46:53,766 --> 00:46:57,433
ourselves, or what we consider
our memory, is a construction.
1081
00:46:57,433 --> 00:46:59,666
We create these representations.
1082
00:46:59,666 --> 00:47:02,800
And they're very dynamic,
they constantly change.
1083
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
You're kind of living a revision
1084
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,400
of the story of your life,
constantly.
1085
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,433
SETH:
The more
often we recall things,
1086
00:47:10,433 --> 00:47:12,900
the less objectively accurate
1087
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:14,233
our memories become.
1088
00:47:15,233 --> 00:47:17,600
BERLIN:
It turns out that every
time you a recall a memory--
1089
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,733
your first kiss,
1090
00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:21,500
graduating from college,
1091
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:23,533
the death of a loved one--
1092
00:47:23,533 --> 00:47:28,133
the very act of recollection
makes it vulnerable to change.
1093
00:47:28,133 --> 00:47:30,000
SCHILLER:
So when you experience
a new event,
1094
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,533
it has to be
stored in the brain.
1095
00:47:32,533 --> 00:47:34,066
And then, we used to think that
1096
00:47:34,066 --> 00:47:35,733
whenever you think about that
event,
1097
00:47:35,733 --> 00:47:39,500
you retrieve the same original
memory.
1098
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:43,233
But what we got to
realize in the last few decades
1099
00:47:43,233 --> 00:47:45,400
is that whenever
you retrieve a memory,
1100
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,633
it goes back
to an unstable state.
1101
00:47:47,633 --> 00:47:53,066
BERLIN:
In 2000, memory scientist
Eric Kandel won the Nobel Prize
1102
00:47:53,066 --> 00:47:56,533
for showing that each memory
creates new synapses,
1103
00:47:56,533 --> 00:47:58,366
connections
that store the memory.
1104
00:47:58,366 --> 00:48:02,133
But what happens
when you recall it?
1105
00:48:02,133 --> 00:48:03,933
Every time you remember it,
1106
00:48:03,933 --> 00:48:05,633
you bring it up into your
working memory
1107
00:48:05,633 --> 00:48:06,866
and you perceive it,
1108
00:48:06,866 --> 00:48:09,033
and you destroy the long-term
memory.
1109
00:48:09,033 --> 00:48:12,000
And you actually have
1110
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,033
to recast it into long-term
memory
1111
00:48:14,033 --> 00:48:15,766
when you re-remember it.
1112
00:48:15,766 --> 00:48:17,766
So every single time
you remember something,
1113
00:48:17,766 --> 00:48:19,400
you actually add more
noise to it,
1114
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,766
so that it's more and more
and more false
1115
00:48:21,766 --> 00:48:23,700
throughout time.
1116
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:26,700
BERLIN:
This mechanism,
called reconsolidation,
1117
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:28,366
was first discovered in rodents,
1118
00:48:28,366 --> 00:48:31,333
where neuroscientists witnessed
what happens
1119
00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:33,366
when a memory gets recollected:
1120
00:48:33,366 --> 00:48:36,000
for the memory to return
to long-term storage,
1121
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,533
the connections between neurons
actually have to get rebuilt.
1122
00:48:40,533 --> 00:48:43,100
Recent experiments
have suggested
1123
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:46,166
this is likely a mechanism in
human brains, as well,
1124
00:48:46,166 --> 00:48:49,700
because certain drugs known
to disrupt reconsolidation
1125
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:52,600
have been shown
to alter human memories.
1126
00:48:53,733 --> 00:48:57,800
FENTON:
We're stuck with the problem
of, how do we know what is true?
1127
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,133
How do we know what's real?
1128
00:49:00,133 --> 00:49:02,000
And maybe
1129
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,766
part of the recognition is,
some of those things
1130
00:49:04,766 --> 00:49:07,900
don't matter as
much as we think they do.
1131
00:49:10,533 --> 00:49:13,433
SCHILLER:
If we think about the fact that
maybe our memories are not
1132
00:49:13,433 --> 00:49:15,033
as they originally happened,
1133
00:49:15,033 --> 00:49:18,300
it could be a scary thought,
because then, who are we?
1134
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:21,466
I think you need
to think about it as something
1135
00:49:21,466 --> 00:49:24,700
more liberating,
because if you're stuck
1136
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:26,766
with original representations,
1137
00:49:26,766 --> 00:49:28,466
you're kind
of stuck in the past.
1138
00:49:29,566 --> 00:49:33,366
BERLIN:
Just like our perceptions,
our sense of self is dynamic,
1139
00:49:33,366 --> 00:49:35,933
built to serve
us in the present.
1140
00:49:35,933 --> 00:49:37,800
SETH:
Our experience of, of self
1141
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,100
is a construction at all sorts
of different levels.
1142
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,566
What the brain is doing,
is interested in,
1143
00:49:42,566 --> 00:49:46,033
is weaving
together a kind of story.
1144
00:49:46,033 --> 00:49:49,700
FENTON:
The brain is
a storytelling machine, right?
1145
00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:53,033
It's a machine that's
designed to make predictions.
1146
00:49:53,033 --> 00:49:56,800
KASTHURI:
The narratives
that we tell ourselves
1147
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,866
are the biggest illusions
that we ever participate in.
1148
00:49:58,866 --> 00:50:01,300
Your sense of who you are is an
illusion,
1149
00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:04,333
as everything else--
you're no exception.
1150
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:08,300
BERLIN:
But if even our sense
of self is an illusion,
1151
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:10,600
where does that leave us?
1152
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,633
MARTINEZ-CONDE (chuckles):
Trust the illusion,
that's the only thing
1153
00:50:13,633 --> 00:50:16,166
that we can be sure of,
1154
00:50:16,166 --> 00:50:21,133
that what
we perceive is not what's there.
1155
00:50:26,433 --> 00:50:28,533
BERLIN:
So all these years later,
1156
00:50:28,533 --> 00:50:31,566
in my quest to understand where
my thoughts come from
1157
00:50:31,566 --> 00:50:33,400
and how my brain works,
1158
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,466
I've learned that my brain
is an exquisite machine
1159
00:50:36,466 --> 00:50:40,066
that perceives reality
in the service of survival,
1160
00:50:40,066 --> 00:50:42,033
not accuracy.
1161
00:50:42,033 --> 00:50:44,733
The world I carry inside of my
head
1162
00:50:44,733 --> 00:50:46,333
is a construction of my
brain
1163
00:50:46,333 --> 00:50:49,000
built on bits of sensory
information
1164
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,900
woven together with memory
1165
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:53,966
to create a conscious
experience.
1166
00:50:53,966 --> 00:50:56,400
Now, to some this might sound
scary,
1167
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,133
but to me, it's inspiring.
1168
00:50:59,133 --> 00:51:02,866
♪ ♪
1169
00:51:02,866 --> 00:51:04,866
SETH:
The simple act of
opening our eyes
1170
00:51:04,866 --> 00:51:06,666
and seeing a world,
1171
00:51:06,666 --> 00:51:08,966
we should not
take that for granted.
1172
00:51:08,966 --> 00:51:10,900
And in realizing
1173
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:14,733
what a miracle of neural
computation
1174
00:51:14,733 --> 00:51:16,300
is going on under the hood,
1175
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:18,733
to give us even the simplest
experiences,
1176
00:51:18,733 --> 00:51:20,300
I think this adds value,
1177
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:23,000
it adds meaning,
it adds depth to our lives.
1178
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,800
♪ ♪
1179
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,333
DEHAENE:
I think it's liberating
to understand
1180
00:51:27,333 --> 00:51:32,133
that we rise from
this organization of matter.
1181
00:51:32,133 --> 00:51:34,833
It means that we can
be a little bit more humble.
1182
00:51:34,833 --> 00:51:38,400
We are gorgeous machines
designed by evolution
1183
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,533
as well as by our environment,
education, friends, families.
1184
00:51:43,533 --> 00:51:45,533
All of that is
inscribed in our brains.
1185
00:51:48,166 --> 00:51:51,833
SAXE:
Sometimes when I wonder what I'm
doing with my life,
1186
00:51:51,833 --> 00:51:55,033
I think how is it that a spatial
1187
00:51:55,033 --> 00:51:57,266
and temporal pattern
of electrical signals
1188
00:51:57,266 --> 00:52:01,100
passing between cells in
our brains makes us who we are?
1189
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:04,533
That just being
a part of the team
1190
00:52:04,533 --> 00:52:09,300
asking that question
is worth keeping going for.
1191
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:13,033
♪ ♪
1192
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:38,933
♪ ♪
1193
00:52:42,766 --> 00:52:50,300
♪ ♪
1194
00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:59,466
♪ ♪
1195
00:53:01,166 --> 00:53:08,700
♪ ♪
1196
00:53:14,433 --> 00:53:21,600
♪ ♪
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