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- [Narrator] In the designs of Providence
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there are no mere coincidences.
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And we should start from this.
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It was a perfect timing, perfect
moment, perfect situation.
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(Contemporary music)
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- [Peter] All the world's a stage,
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and had Shakespeare lived
in the late 20th century,
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he would have been intrigued by two men
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who starred on the grandest stage of all.
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- Both men began their careers as actors.
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Both understand that a good script
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contains three essential elements:
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Introduction, conflict and resolution.
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- They were working in the
realm of the human spirit.
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- [Peter] The actors were
a president and a pope
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who starred in a real life drama.
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- Political office is a
kind of dramatic role.
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Ronald Reagan knew this
very, he'd been an actor.
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And what he understood was
to be a successful president,
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you have to know how to
perform the presidency.
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- When you go to the Vatican, of course,
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St. Peter's and all that
was built, it's a stage set.
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It's built for processions
and for speeches
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and for public displays,
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and boy, did he know how
to inhabit that space.
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- You know, you're playing to the crowd.
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Politics is the biggest
performance stage of all.
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- [Monika] They kind of knew
about the drama of the world,
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and the drama of the
theater, and how to use it.
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- [Peter] John Paul ii and Ronald Reagan,
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two unlikely characters,
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made their final appearances
early in the 21st century,
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yet the roles they played
lived on in our memory.
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- They saw themselves as
actors on the world stage
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affecting a change,
bringing freedom to people.
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- That in my very carriage,
in my very expression,
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in the acts that I perform that
always have didactic meaning
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and portray something.
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- [Man] They want to
take what is on the stage
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and make it real for
the people in the world.
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- [Peter] But was it a
design of their own making
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or was it the work of a divine plan?
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(Contemporary music)
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- [Man] There was love, there
was expectation of a miracle,
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and a miracle came.
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(Crowd cheers)
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- [Peter] And for nine days
rapturous crowds cheered
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and church bells rang as
he traveled the country.
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- [Man] And what I saw was
a million strong crowd.
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The best behaved, the best self-policed
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mass of human beings I
have ever encountered.
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- [Peter] The pent up religious feelings
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of a people living for decades
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under the rule of a repressive
atheist regime exploded.
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The church bells were
tolling the beginning
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of the end of the Soviet empire.
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(Church bells tolling)
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- The most important
impact that the pope had
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when he first came to Poland in 1979
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was the fact that he brought
so many people together.
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Because one of the
things that communism did
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was it isolated people.
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- Dictatorships always
have to create in you
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the fear that you're alone,
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no one will come to your assistance,
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but that cannot be the case
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if you have John Paul ii
addressing huge crowds.
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- [Anne] Suddenly, there
were hundreds of thousands,
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if not millions of people,
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and suddenly, everybody saw one another.
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- [John] People know
that they're not alone.
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- [Man] The pope came and
emboldened the freedom fighter
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by preaching love, human
dignity, and strength.
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(Contemporary music)
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- [Peter] A continent away,
another man took notice.
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Ronald Reagan watched
footage of the pope's visit.
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With him was foreign policy
expert Richard v. Allen
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who later became President Reagan's
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national security advisor.
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- They were talking foreign policy
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all day at Reagan's home in California,
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and at one point, they decided
to turn on the evening news,
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and they saw footage of John
Paul ii's visit to Poland.
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- [Peter] Allen reported that Reagan
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was astounded by the crowd
size, and was deeply moved
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by the unexpected outpouring of emotion.
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- I saw a tear in rr's eye.
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It was a really interesting moment for me.
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- [Peter] Reagan leaned forward,
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peered into the TV screen--
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- then he said dick, that's
it, that's it, that's it,
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the pope is the key, the pope is the key,
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the pope is the key.
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- [Peter] He immediately
wanted to reach out
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to the new pope and the
Vatican, and make them an ally.
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- He was a beacon of light,
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that he was somebody
who has a positive force
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operating in a zone of darkness.
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- [Peter] Reagan knew
Poland would be the linchpin
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in the dissolution of Russia.
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- We've got to find a way to get elected,
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and we've got to reach out
to this new Polish pope
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and Vatican and make them an ally.
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- Reagan, for the first time in history,
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an American president is sharing
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classified CIA documents with the pope.
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Reagan appoints an envoy to the Vatican,
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the first time in American history,
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and later an ambassador to the Vatican,
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again first time in American history.
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He's making an ally of pope John Paul ii.
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- [Peter] Few others understood
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that the pope's visit was key
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to the first act in a groundbreaking play.
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The New York times, for instance,
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said in a June 5th, 1979 editorial
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"as much as the visit of pope John Paul ii
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"to Poland must
reinvigorate and re-inspire
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"the Roman catholic church in Poland,
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"it does not threaten the political order
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"of the nation or of Eastern Europe."
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- So they're missing the truth,
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they're missing the overwhelming evidence
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of the Soviet state
versus American freedom.
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- The Soviets are beside themselves.
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I mean they know that
this is a game-changer.
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This is the linchpin that could take down
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the whole communist block.
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So one day, November 13th,
1979, nine of them get together,
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members of Soviet central committee.
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One of them, by the way, is a young member
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of the central committee
named mikhail gorbachev,
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and they got together and they
issued this chilling edict
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where they called for additional measures
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beyond discreditation and disinformation
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to attack this new pope.
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- [Peter] The pope and the president
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would not meet face-to-face
until June 1982 at the Vatican
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when they confided in one another
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what they had only thought in private.
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Their greatest roles still awaiting.
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(Dramatic music)
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- [Man] Ronald Reagan had
this very strong sense
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of divine Providence.
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- Ronald Reagan would have
gotten it from his mother.
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He was very quick to say
that that view of the world
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that everything is in god's hands,
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and obviously, John Paul ii got it
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from his deep catholic faith.
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- [Man] Ronnie, everything
that happens in your life,
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good or bad, and including the bad things,
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happen according to a
divine plan by a loving god.
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- [Peter] Reagan was born in 1911
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to nelle and Jack Reagan.
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By all accounts, nelle
was an earthly Saint,
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a faith leader in the household.
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- I think that his mother's faith
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and her upbringing of her children,
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especially in conditions of extreme duress
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with the drinking problem his father had.
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- [Peter] He was Jack Reagan,
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a shoe salesman who chased
rainbows and alcohol.
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- Reagan's childhood was
difficult for a young boy.
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Reagan did sort of build
this wall around himself
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because Jack Reagan, who one day,
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was the best buddy his
son, Dutch, ever had,
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the next day he was
drunk, he was unreliable.
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Reagan couldn't count on him.
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- [Peter] An enduring memory for Reagan
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was coming home at age 11
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to find his father passed
out on the front porch,
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exposed and freezing in the snow.
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- And this 11 year old kid has this moment
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when he has to decide well, what do I do?
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- [Peter] Jack's hair was
soaked with melted snow,
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matted unevenly against the
side of his reddened face.
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- And apparently, he thought
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well, maybe I'll just walk
on by and ignore my dad here.
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The very fact that an 11 year old kid
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could think for a minute
my life might be better
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if my father were dead.
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I mean that's a pretty heavy thing.
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(Soft music)
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- [Peter] Four months
later after the incident,
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Reagan asked to be baptized.
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He started life anew as a child of god,
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the son of an infinitely
more reliable father.
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Karol jozef wojtyla was was born in 1920.
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His mother, Emilia,
died when he was eight.
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Although he didn't hold
many clear memories of her,
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he kept his parents' wedding
portrait by his bed always.
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His father, karol senior, a military man,
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became his spiritual guide.
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He would take his son to
shrines to the virgin Mary
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saying this now is your mother.
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(Soft music)
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As young men, karol
wojtyla and Ronald Reagan
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shared a common mission: To
protect, even save others.
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Reagan became a lifeguard at 15
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on rock river in Dixon, Illinois,
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and in the seven years that follow,
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he saved the lives of 77 people.
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- Reagan, you know, you are
a good-looking young guy,
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and certainly, those pretty girls
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who were thrashing around in the water,
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they probably weren't gonna die.
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He didn't see the humor in that.
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- [Peter] Wojtyla already
had established himself
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as a well-respected actor/playwright.
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He acted in plays with
themes of Polish pride
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to defy the authorities.
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- And he and a few friends
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formed this famous rhapsodic
theater where they,
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you know, behind shuttered
windows and locked doors,
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they recited the great poetry and drama
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of Polish literature.
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- Underground theater help him
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to go through the most important words
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and problems and experiences
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to reach people, their
hearts, and confront the evil.
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- [Peter] It was not until 1941
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that he would enter the seminary,
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a secret underground seminary.
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- He's coming of age at
one of the worst moments
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of the 20th century.
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- [Peter] Wojtyla witnessed
first time the Nazi terror,
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the liquidation of
Poland's Jewish population
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as tens of thousands were
marched off to Auschwitz.
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He watched as many of his friends
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as well as defiant priests
were sent to the same fate.
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(Solemn music)
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- If a German soldier or
an ss guy or a gestapo guy
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doesn't like the way you
looked at him in the street,
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he can shoot you down and
nothing will happen to him.
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- [Peter] Poland would
lose 20% of its population
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in world war ii, the highest
percentage of any country.
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A personal tragedy added to the sorrow.
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On February 18th, 1941,
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wojtyla's father died of a heart attack.
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- For the rest of his life,
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every day would recite to himself a prayer
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that his father had written
for him when he was a child.
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The bereaved son told friends,
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"I am alone at 20 years old,
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"I have already lost all
the people I've loved."
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At nearly the same moment,
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thousands of miles away,
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Reagan's father who had
finally redeemed his life
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and at a job answering his son's fan mail,
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also succumbed to heart failure.
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Reagan said he felt desolate and empty,
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but he assured his mother
with his well-known optimism,
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"Jack is okay and where
he is he's very happy."
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By war's end, it was clear
to both Reagan and wojtyla
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that Russia, one of the allies
who helped defeat Hitler
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was about to unleash new atrocities
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on a depleted, helpless Eastern Europe.
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The Soviets fought not
only against western values
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of freedom and democracy,
but also religion.
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With that battle came
the spiritual oppression
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of millions of souls in Eastern Europe.
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From 1947 through 1959,
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Reagan starring role was that of president
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of the screen actors guild.
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- He was responsible for
the policy and position
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of the actors regarding
the big issues of the time,
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including the possibility that communism
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might be infiltrating Hollywood.
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To Reagan, there was sort
of a hard reality to this
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because Reagan was involved
in a very controversial strike
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in which he was personally threatened.
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- [Peter] When he attempted
to break a picket line,
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his bus was pelted with rocks
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violently shattering the glass windows.
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He was warned that acid would be splashed
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in his movie star face.
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There were so many threats
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that he began sleeping
with a Smith & Wesson.
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- And the strike was instigated
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by communists within
this new upstart union.
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And so Reagan felt it
in his responsibility
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as basically one of the
key players in Hollywood
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to keep the movie industry going,
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but increasingly, Reagan
felt it in the form
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of a challenge to the United States.
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- [Peter] Throughout the 50s,
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as host of television's ge theater,
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Reagan had a new stage to work from,
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and the script would become
increasingly political.
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- As Reagan tasted politics,
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and he realized, you know,
there's something out there,
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Reagan realized that he was smart,
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he realized that he could
be good at politics.
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There was a taste of
politics in his mouth,
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and at this point, I think
he begins thinking beyond
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what's my next career,
what's my next role?
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- [Peter] By 1964, he had changed
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from democrat to republican,
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and began acting in the political arena.
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While campaigning for Barry goldwater,
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he delivered what would become known as
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the a time for choosing speech,
or more simply the speech.
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- You and I have a
rendezvous with destiny.
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We'll preserve for our children
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this the last best hope of man on earth
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or will sentence them
to take the last step
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into a thousand years of darkness.
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- So he's saying this
transcends partisan politics,
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but we must preserve, we
must honor, we must know,
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and we must live up to the principles
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that are a part of that vision
of a shining city on a hill.
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- [Peter] By 1979 after
eight years as governor,
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Reagan through his rousing
broadcasts and speeches,
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had amassed a solid
anticommunist following.
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In a radio broadcast, Reagan noted
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that Stalin had once mockingly asked
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how many divisions does the pope have?
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Reagan responded well, that
question has been answered
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when the people of Poland came forth
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in unbelievable numbers.
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Now fear was giving way to faith.
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- Both of them achieved
these positions of power
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toward the last quarter of their lives,
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the last fifth of their lives.
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Is that there are no more
political battles to win.
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Now it's just about the mission.
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(Suspenseful music)
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- [Peter] St. Peter's
square, may 13th, 1981,
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just past five o'clock in the afternoon.
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John Paul ii rides in a
small open-air vehicle
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dubbed the popemobile.
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(Crowd cheers)
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He greets a crowd of thousands
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who have come to the Vatican to cheer.
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One man, later identified
as a Turkish national,
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lifts a pistol and aims it an the pontiff.
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(Gun shot)
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Six weeks earlier on may 30th, 1981,
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another assassination
attempt had taken place.
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In this scene, it was president
Reagan in the crosshairs.
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- So if there's a way to look at all this
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in the divine scheme of
things, the divine plan,
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think about six weeks in 1981,
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march 30th, 1981 to may 13th, 1981.
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March 30th, 1981 was the day
that Ronald Reagan was shot
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outside the Washington
Hilton in Washington, DC.
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(Gun shot)
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- The kremlin feared no other man
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in the 1970s and 1980s in the west
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like they feared Ronald Reagan.
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The Soviets hated Ronald Reagan.
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- Both of these men shared a conviction
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that communism in Europe
could be defeated,
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and could be defeated
without massive violence.
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(Contemporary music)
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- [Peter] From the moment
he became John Paul ii,
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forces were at work within Russia
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to vanquish this charismatic pope.
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Like Reagan, he had the ability
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to turn complex information
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into simple understandable
words and to deliver these words
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with an actors skill
that could move nations.
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In 1984, prime minister Margaret Thatcher,
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who played an important
role in the cold war drama,
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also survived a bombing.
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(Bomb blast)
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Her reaction, though, differed in tone.
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- She felt it would be vainglorious
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to think of herself as having be protected
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from the assassination
attempt on her by god.
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The idea that god would
intervene directly for her,
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she's thought well,
that's boasting, really.
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- I think part of her
religion factored into it,
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because methodism doesn't reject
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that god directs all things,
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but it believes the greater
self-determination of man
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than, say, catholics do.
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(Soft music)
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- [Peter] In the weeks before
the assassination attempt,
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the communist press was full of vitriol
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directed at the pontiff.
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They cast him in the role of Nazi remnant.
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Cunning and dangerous ideological enemy.
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Malicious, lowly, toady
of American militarists,
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seeking to undermine communism
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with his new boss in the white house.
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- So on may 13th, 1881, the
feast day of our lady of Fatima,
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John Paul ii is riding
through St. Peter's square
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in his white fiat popemobile,
and the top is down,
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he's driving around with an open roof,
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and as he's driving by, this shooter,
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this assigned shooter, this assassin,
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he has his nine millimeter
Browning semi-automatic weapon,
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and as the pope gets closer,
and closer, and closer,
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finally, mehmet Ali agca,
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lifts that gun up in the air and fires
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(gun shot)
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And he hit the pope twice.
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Hit him once in the hand,
and once in the stomach.
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He immediately went down,
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collapsed into the arms of his aides,
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father dziwisz and another aide,
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said it's very painful, it
hurts, I was hit in the stomach.
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They immediately got him in an ambulance,
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and rushed him off to gemelli clinic,
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and he got there and they found out
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that he was bleeding very, very severely.
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- [Peter] As for Ronald Reagan,
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he reacted to the shooting of the pope
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with a diary entry that day:
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Sent a message to the Vatican and prayed.
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Could it have been mere coincidence
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that an attempt on Reagan's life
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had happened not long before?
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The timing was coincidental
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(gun shot)
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(Contemporary music)
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As were the motives.
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The pope's assailant was
a political hired gun.
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Reagan's would-be assassin
was a disturbed young man
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whose motive was to impress
the movie star Jodie foster.
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It was a random act of violence,
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not part of any plot or conspiracy.
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But did these events fit
into a heavenly scheme?
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Could such indiscretion turn out
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to be part of a divine plan?
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Even if it wasn't, Reagan believed
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that all things happened for a reason.
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- Reagan saw that he and John Paul
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were basically reading from the same book.
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- [Man] The storyline of
both the pope and Reagan
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coincided very, very nicely together.
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- Bits and pieces are making sense to US,
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but how precisely it plays out?
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I don't know, and that's
part of the fun of it,
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that's part of the drama
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'cause I'm living it, not reading it.
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- [Peter] But the two events
have in common was clear,
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the true condition of both men
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was down played to the public.
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The official word in Washington
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was that Reagan was in stable condition.
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- I decided to sneak away
for the university club
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for a 40 minute swim, and
get back to the office
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and have a sandwich.
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And so my driver pulled me
out of the pool by my hair,
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and said we've got to get
back to the white house,
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something terrible has happened.
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- The surprise was that the
president himself had been shot.
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He very nearly bled to death.
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He probably should have bled to death.
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It was very, very close.
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If that bullet was even
a few centimeters over
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closer to his heart, he wouldn't
have gotten out of the car,
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he would have died on the way
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to George Washington university hospital.
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- When it became clear
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that Reagan had been taken
to the emergency room,
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and that he passed out
walking into the hospital,
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and that he was in the operating room,
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then Americans began to get nervous.
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- [Peter] There are no alert measures
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that are necessary at
this time or contemplated.
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In truth, both men were closer to death
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than was acknowledged at a time.
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John Paul ii underwent
a five-hour operation,
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and lost 60% of his blood.
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(Crowd screams)
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- John Paul would have read it
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as he read everything else,
as part of the divine plan,
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and he would have seen it
according to the template
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of the cross and resurrection of Jesus,
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so he would've read it that way.
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Did it give him a heightened
sense of his mission
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to struggle against what
he saw, quite correctly,
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as the supreme evil in
the world of his time?
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I say yes, absolutely.
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And that again brings him
close to Ronald Reagan.
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(Soft music)
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- [Peter] Reagan lost half of his blood.
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On that harrowing day in Washington,
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vice president George hw
bush was on an airplane
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flying back to Washington, DC from Texas.
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For a brief time, with
the bleeding president
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on the operating table, confusion
gripped the white house.
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- [Richard] And one of the young women
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working in the press office
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said they want to know who's
running the government,
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and al said oh well, I'll take care of it.
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I said wait, wait.
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- [Alexander] As of right now,
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I am in control here in the white house.
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- [Richard] And he lunged
up behind the podium,
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and I stood next to him.
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- [Alexander] Constitutionally, gentlemen,
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you have the president--
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- the doctors didn't tell
Reagan how close he was to dying
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and so okay, I'm awake, I'm alive,
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I've got this audience
around me, I can tell a joke,
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and he's joking as he goes
into the operating room
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hoping that all the doctors
there are Republicans,
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and that's when the head surgeon says
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well, today Mr. President,
we are all Republicans.
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Reagan had sufficient self-possession
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to realize okay, if I can convey
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that I've still got my sense of humor,
509
00:24:17,390 --> 00:24:20,340
I've got my wits about me, that
will have a calming effect.
510
00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:26,390
- And Reagan would later say
he would call John hinckley
511
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:28,340
this mixed up young man,
512
00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:31,210
and he said isn't that the
meaning of the lost sheep?
513
00:24:31,210 --> 00:24:34,000
We are all god's children,
we are all lost sheep,
514
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,450
and Reagan said I
immediately prayed for him
515
00:24:36,450 --> 00:24:38,949
to find his way back to the fold.
516
00:24:38,949 --> 00:24:41,366
(Soft music)
517
00:24:44,590 --> 00:24:47,420
- And one of the first things
he wrote in his diaries
518
00:24:47,420 --> 00:24:50,890
when he woke up from his surgery
519
00:24:50,890 --> 00:24:53,300
is I'm going to dedicate my life to peace.
520
00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:56,640
I'm going to work hard to become a,
521
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,270
make the world a better and safer place.
522
00:24:59,270 --> 00:25:02,870
Hence his determination
to rid whole classes
523
00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:06,850
of nuclear armaments to put a big thaw
524
00:25:06,850 --> 00:25:10,217
in the us/soviet cold war.
525
00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:11,980
(Soft music)
526
00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:15,230
- John Paul ii came away from that ordeal
527
00:25:15,230 --> 00:25:16,390
just like Ronald Reagan
528
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:18,610
came away from his shooting, thinking--
529
00:25:18,610 --> 00:25:21,450
- what god has in store for them now,
530
00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:25,500
that he obviously was sparing
them for a higher purpose.
531
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:28,200
- And the fact that they both saw it,
532
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,770
they both understood that.
533
00:25:29,770 --> 00:25:31,550
I don't think you'll
understand either one of them,
534
00:25:31,550 --> 00:25:32,950
without understanding that.
535
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:34,960
- Both Reagan and John Paul ii
536
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,070
shared the belief of optimism.
537
00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:40,650
- [Peter] After their ordeals,
538
00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:44,480
both men made strong recoveries
and returned to work.
539
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,770
Reagan, a vibrant 70 year old,
was back in the oval office,
540
00:25:48,770 --> 00:25:51,950
and John Paul ii return to the Vatican.
541
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:54,710
- I have this power, I have this ability,
542
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:58,400
I have these resources to assemble
543
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,520
to achieve what it is I've
made it my life's goal to do
544
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,073
which is to defeat Soviet communism.
545
00:26:04,073 --> 00:26:07,156
(Contemporary music)
546
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,560
- Ronald Reagan for
his first public speech
547
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,630
after the shooting of John Paul ii
548
00:26:21,630 --> 00:26:24,070
just happens to be a commencement address
549
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:27,510
that have been previously
scheduled weeks in advance
550
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:32,110
of at all places, america's
most famous catholic university,
551
00:26:32,110 --> 00:26:33,893
notre dame university.
552
00:26:33,893 --> 00:26:37,400
(Audience cheers)
553
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,750
- [Peter] Reagan made a pivotal speech
554
00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:41,070
at the university of notre dame,
555
00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:42,783
announcing his grand mission.
556
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,110
He spoke with his new
catholic partner in mind.
557
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:50,220
In the speech Reagan quoted John Paul ii.
558
00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:52,480
- Certain economic theories
559
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,620
that use the rhetoric of class struggle
560
00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:58,420
to justify injustice.
561
00:26:58,420 --> 00:27:01,340
He said in the name of an alleged justice,
562
00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:03,700
the neighbor is sometimes
destroyed, killed,
563
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:05,200
or deprived of Liberty
564
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,230
or stripped the fundamental human rights.
565
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:11,100
- [Peter] Reagan continued
with his own observations.
566
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,370
- The years ahead are great
ones for this country,
567
00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:17,170
for the cause of freedom and
the spread of civilization.
568
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,743
The west won't contain communism,
it'll transcend communism.
569
00:27:23,904 --> 00:27:26,904
(Audience applauds)
570
00:27:28,831 --> 00:27:32,160
- And it was there, after
he said that in particular,
571
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,690
that he started to talk about
the shooting of John Paul ii.
572
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:38,270
I think looking back in retrospect,
573
00:27:38,270 --> 00:27:40,070
that might have been
one of Ronald Reagan's
574
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:44,720
first public indications that
he was very much suspecting
575
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,980
a possible Soviet communist hand
576
00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,380
in the shooting of pope John Paul ii.
577
00:27:49,380 --> 00:27:51,830
- The first step in
the destruction of evil
578
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:54,580
is to name it, to call it out
579
00:27:54,580 --> 00:27:56,033
because it doesn't like that.
580
00:27:58,230 --> 00:28:00,970
- Another absolutely crucial
player in this was bill Casey,
581
00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:03,150
the head of the CIA, Irish catholic,
582
00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:05,560
like bill Clark he was an Irish catholic,
583
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,910
and he had been almost
plucked out of retirement
584
00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:11,690
by Ronald Reagan and his closest aide,
585
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,850
herb meyer said that Casey felt
586
00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:17,090
that when Ronald Reagan
called him to head the CIA,
587
00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:21,120
that god was giving Casey one more shot
588
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,530
to do something really,
really significant.
589
00:28:23,530 --> 00:28:27,140
And Casey too felt this divine plan sense
590
00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:29,970
that he was being tasked,
that he was being called
591
00:28:29,970 --> 00:28:33,650
to do battle against this
beast in the Soviet union.
592
00:28:33,650 --> 00:28:36,490
- I didn't know bill Casey
well, but I knew him.
593
00:28:36,490 --> 00:28:39,420
This was a brilliant,
unappreciated cold warrior.
594
00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:43,840
- May 13th, 1981, very
next day may 14th, 1981,
595
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,540
bill Casey immediately
called a special session
596
00:28:46,540 --> 00:28:49,080
of the national foreign intelligence board
597
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,490
in Washington, DC on f street
598
00:28:51,490 --> 00:28:55,330
to talk about what exactly
the Soviets were up to,
599
00:28:55,330 --> 00:28:59,110
and he wanted to know, from
the very beginning he suspected
600
00:28:59,110 --> 00:29:01,190
that maybe they might
have had something to do
601
00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:02,690
with the shooting of the pope.
602
00:29:09,530 --> 00:29:11,810
- [Peter] They regarded
the us/vatican relationship
603
00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:13,660
as a holy alliance.
604
00:29:13,660 --> 00:29:14,867
The moral force of the pope
605
00:29:14,867 --> 00:29:17,080
and the teachings of their church
606
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,846
combined with fierce anticommunism,
607
00:29:19,846 --> 00:29:22,925
and their notion of an American democracy.
608
00:29:22,925 --> 00:29:25,870
(Suspenseful music)
609
00:29:25,870 --> 00:29:30,240
- Reagan took the moral
aspect of the cold war
610
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,810
more seriously than other
American presidents had.
611
00:29:32,810 --> 00:29:34,360
Other American presidents
tried to figure out
612
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,178
how to manage the cold war.
613
00:29:36,178 --> 00:29:38,390
Reagan wanted to win the cold war.
614
00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:42,580
- Reagan was determined
to restore dynamism
615
00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:44,690
to the United States economy,
616
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:47,410
and he was determined to confront
617
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:50,520
Soviet power around the world.
618
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,540
- [H.w.] My policy in the
cold war is very simple,
619
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:53,993
we win, they lose.
620
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:58,570
- [Peter] John Paul ii after
returning to the Vatican,
621
00:29:58,570 --> 00:30:01,140
his voice still week after surgery,
622
00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:03,950
addressed to group of Polish pilgrims.
623
00:30:03,950 --> 00:30:06,600
He declared the future
was beginning to look grim
624
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,000
for an empire that paraded
strength with troop movements,
625
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,050
but was weakening from within.
626
00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:15,230
- President Reagan and John Paul ii's
627
00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:18,310
parallel critique of communism
628
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:21,290
was that it misread human beings.
629
00:30:21,290 --> 00:30:24,910
It did not realize, would not acknowledge
630
00:30:24,910 --> 00:30:28,730
the inherent dignity and god-given value
631
00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:31,120
of every individual human life,
632
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,653
and if you don't get that
right, if you don't get,
633
00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:37,660
if you will the anthropology right,
634
00:30:37,660 --> 00:30:40,490
if you don't get the idea
of the human person right,
635
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:43,790
you're gonna make a big
mess out of your politics,
636
00:30:43,790 --> 00:30:46,220
out of your society, out of your economy,
637
00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:47,333
out of your culture.
638
00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:50,500
- [Peter] Russia responded
to the assassination attempt
639
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:55,370
on the pope as expected, they
attempted to deflect blame.
640
00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:56,910
Pravda, the official newspaper
641
00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:59,860
of the communist party
of the Soviet union,
642
00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:02,070
referred to the pope's would-be assassin,
643
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:05,290
mehmet Ali agca, as a Neo-fascist
644
00:31:05,290 --> 00:31:09,700
with ties to Turkey's Neo-fascist
national movement party.
645
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,000
The publication and the
party kept emphasizing
646
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,083
that agca was a turk.
647
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,070
When britain's guardian newspaper
648
00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:19,423
speculated on Moscow's involvement,
649
00:31:20,290 --> 00:31:22,880
izvestia, another Soviet organ
650
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,840
called the assertion a vile
concoction and ravings.
651
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,350
Moscow tried pointing
the finger at the CIA.
652
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:34,510
The kremlin, already on shaky ground,
653
00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:36,490
would put on its own show,
654
00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:40,170
desperately trying to disguise
it's oppressive regime
655
00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:42,750
now slowly rotting from within.
656
00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:45,860
- Well now they better really be fearful
657
00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:47,870
of an alliance between these two
658
00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:52,170
because this shooting, which
they helped precipitate,
659
00:31:52,170 --> 00:31:54,080
which they took part in,
660
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,000
made that alliance even tighter.
661
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,040
- [Man] The most important
story to tell here
662
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,710
is that Reagan and the pope
663
00:31:59,710 --> 00:32:03,630
were operating on the same
level of spirituality,
664
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:07,787
the same level of confidence
in a divine power.
665
00:32:07,787 --> 00:32:10,204
(Soft music)
666
00:32:17,170 --> 00:32:18,340
- [Peter] Reagan and the pope would meet
667
00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:20,930
five times in eight years.
668
00:32:20,930 --> 00:32:22,430
- I think being in the room
669
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:25,840
when the pope and the president met,
670
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,840
you could see there was
a delight on both faces.
671
00:32:31,090 --> 00:32:35,380
They were in this place where
it was appointed of them
672
00:32:35,380 --> 00:32:36,930
by a divine power.
673
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:38,960
- People have to understand
that John Paul ii
674
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,920
spoke English, it was excellent.
675
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,340
So there wasn't an interpreter
to slow down the discussion
676
00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:47,830
between Ronald Reagan and John Paul ii.
677
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:49,070
So there were many times
678
00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:51,020
when they went for a walk in the woods,
679
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:52,780
or a walk in the gardens of the Vatican,
680
00:32:52,780 --> 00:32:56,010
just the two of them, talking
about the Soviet union,
681
00:32:56,010 --> 00:33:00,250
talking to them about CIA
analysis of Soviet intentions,
682
00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:01,330
talking about the growth
683
00:33:01,330 --> 00:33:03,893
of the solidarity movement in Poland.
684
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,010
- A simple yet sincere
trust in divine Providence
685
00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:11,090
brought them together,
686
00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:13,780
and boy, I think there was a bond,
687
00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:16,870
a simpatico, as the Italians would say,
688
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:19,196
that developed because of that.
689
00:33:19,196 --> 00:33:22,260
(Soft music)
690
00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:24,210
- [H.w.] There was constant correspondence
691
00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:25,720
going on between the two.
692
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,240
So many letters, so many telegrams,
693
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,650
so much electronic
communication, hard-copy letters.
694
00:33:33,650 --> 00:33:35,550
- [Peter] Unfortunately,
most of the contents
695
00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:37,230
are still unknown.
696
00:33:37,230 --> 00:33:40,710
- The Vatican letters have
been sealed for 50 years,
697
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:42,800
so nobody knows the content
698
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,690
of pope John Paul ii's
letters to Ronald Reagan,
699
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,550
and won't know for another
20 somet odd years,
700
00:33:48,550 --> 00:33:51,560
they were sealed, which
makes it fascinating too,
701
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,590
is the full story of the relationship
702
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:56,040
between John Paul ii and Ronald Reagan
703
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,970
for many years to come.
704
00:33:57,970 --> 00:34:01,730
- By the end of 1981, Ronald
Reagan and John Paul ii
705
00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:05,210
had already exchanged
about a dozen or so letters
706
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:07,420
between the two of them.
707
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,240
- [Peter] Reagan and the philosopher pope
708
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:11,490
were more alike than they appeared.
709
00:34:11,490 --> 00:34:13,620
They both, as trained actors,
710
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:16,530
believed in the power of the symbolic act,
711
00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:19,400
and they shared this important sentiment.
712
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,900
Reagan: "Every person is a res sacra,
713
00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:26,870
a sacred reality."
714
00:34:26,870 --> 00:34:30,380
John Paul ii: "Every person is a unique
715
00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:32,307
and unrepeatable gift of god."
716
00:34:33,432 --> 00:34:36,110
(Soft music)
717
00:34:36,110 --> 00:34:38,040
- With Reagan, where the
motivation comes from,
718
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,310
where the values come from,
719
00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:42,310
it's a combination of what
he felt, what he observed,
720
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:45,745
what he saw worked for him,
what played politically well.
721
00:34:45,745 --> 00:34:50,330
And I don't think this makes
his beliefs any less sincere.
722
00:34:50,330 --> 00:34:52,600
Reagan believed quite seriously
723
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000
in the need for the United States
724
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,100
to stand for individual freedom,
725
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:01,850
freedom of conscience,
freedom of elective politics.
726
00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:04,750
- He believed in a very ideals of freedom
727
00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:08,512
that he was trying to
uphold at home and abroad.
728
00:35:08,512 --> 00:35:11,220
And that belief is not trivial,
729
00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:15,040
and it's not beside the point,
and it's not play acting.
730
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,740
- [Peter] Both Reagan and John Paul ii
731
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,110
believed in the connection
between faith and freedom
732
00:35:20,110 --> 00:35:21,540
and were compelled to speak out
733
00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:24,940
boldly and unequivocally against evil.
734
00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:26,350
- [Man] There was a personal relationship
735
00:35:26,350 --> 00:35:29,480
between pope John Paul
ii and Ronald Reagan.
736
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,960
- [Peter] They confided in each other
737
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,530
their conviction that god
had spared their lives
738
00:35:33,530 --> 00:35:35,940
a year earlier for the divine purpose
739
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:38,100
of defeating the communist empire.
740
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:42,900
- God draws our freedom,
he lures our freedom,
741
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:45,970
so he has a plan, but he
wants US cooperating with it.
742
00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:49,010
So the main point is
it's not a zero-sum game,
743
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:50,690
like the more god does, the less we do
744
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:52,990
or the more we're involved,
the less god's involved.
745
00:35:52,990 --> 00:35:54,610
No, on the contrary.
746
00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:55,710
- [Peter] During these years,
747
00:35:55,710 --> 00:35:58,930
the formidable British prime
minister, Margaret Thatcher,
748
00:35:58,930 --> 00:36:01,550
joined forces with the
pope and the president,
749
00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:05,180
also forging a special bond with Reagan.
750
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:07,560
As bill Clark, the once chief of staff
751
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,750
turned national security advisor reported,
752
00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:12,600
Reagan and John Paul ii agree
753
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,380
that the key to translating
their lofty mission
754
00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:18,800
into a real world strategy
to defeat Soviet aggression
755
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,030
was to sustain solidarity.
756
00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:24,120
- Look, there's another
civilization out there
757
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,110
that wants to help you,
758
00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:28,400
so we are the west, we are
part of that alternative
759
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,000
that the pope is describing.
760
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,740
- [Peter] Almost from its inception,
761
00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:34,570
Reagan believed that
solidarity was a crack of light
762
00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:35,910
in the iron curtain.
763
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:38,420
- Reagan got advice from his diplomats,
764
00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:41,470
don't do this kind of thing,
don't provoke the Soviet union.
765
00:36:41,470 --> 00:36:43,090
The Poles will be better off
766
00:36:43,090 --> 00:36:46,060
if we can treat this on a low-key basis.
767
00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:47,410
Reagan rejected that view.
768
00:36:47,410 --> 00:36:50,500
He said it's very important
to take a moral stand,
769
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:54,290
to make a moral statement
even when you cannot
770
00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:55,520
do everything that you want
771
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,401
to accomplish your goal immediately
772
00:36:57,401 --> 00:37:01,210
because change comes in small steps.
773
00:37:01,210 --> 00:37:02,850
- [Peter] From 1982
774
00:37:02,850 --> 00:37:06,070
through the June 1989 election in Poland,
775
00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:08,920
when communists did not win a single seat,
776
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,160
the US funneled 50 million
dollars to solidarity.
777
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920
It turned out to be a sound investment.
778
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,970
- [Man] The money's going for hand bills,
779
00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:20,850
it's going for later fax machines.
780
00:37:20,850 --> 00:37:24,330
I remember speaking to a
group of Polish journalists,
781
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,100
and I said what was it,
what impelled you forward?
782
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,570
What kept you going, what inspired you?
783
00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:32,217
And to a person they said
the words of Ronald Reagan
784
00:37:32,217 --> 00:37:33,773
and the words of John Paul ii.
785
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,870
- [Peter] During those years,
786
00:37:35,870 --> 00:37:38,530
a third man was moving
into a starring role
787
00:37:38,530 --> 00:37:40,400
in the unfolding drama.
788
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,440
Lech walesa an electrician
789
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680
who worked in the shipyard at gdansk
790
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,130
began to gain strength
791
00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:49,040
and influence with his union, solidarity.
792
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,630
- He's a charismatic
shipyard worker in gdansk,
793
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:56,690
and they were striking over various things
794
00:37:58,183 --> 00:38:02,760
as small as getting an
allocation of toilet paper
795
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,530
to bigger things about food and rights
796
00:38:05,530 --> 00:38:08,940
and privileges and all this
is, is that Poland is cracking,
797
00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:11,930
the western ideas are coming in
798
00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:14,130
and the Soviet union
cracks down even more.
799
00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:15,290
- [Peter] While the Polish government
800
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:18,150
could not obliterate
the solidarity movement,
801
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:21,340
it could impose martial
law on the country.
802
00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:26,030
As a result, walesa was arrested,
the clergy was persecuted.
803
00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:29,280
- [Craig] The harder the
Soviets and jaruzelski
804
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,470
cracked down on Poland,
805
00:38:31,470 --> 00:38:33,520
the more solidarity grows,
806
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,830
the more important walesa becomes,
807
00:38:35,830 --> 00:38:39,090
the more important the freedom,
808
00:38:39,090 --> 00:38:41,300
the need for freedom,
to desire for freedom,
809
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:44,210
the want for freedom becomes in Poland.
810
00:38:44,210 --> 00:38:45,050
- [Peter] It was clear
811
00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:48,510
that Moscow had a stranglehold
on the Polish government.
812
00:38:48,510 --> 00:38:52,400
As brezhnev fumed, the
pope stood with his people.
813
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,680
It was said that brezhnev
was one of those bolsheviks
814
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,850
who imbibed atheism and
anti-church attitude
815
00:38:58,850 --> 00:39:00,513
with their mother's milk.
816
00:39:01,651 --> 00:39:03,100
The Soviet leader was worried about
817
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,530
the growing strength of solidarity,
818
00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:07,880
and even more about the unshakable hold
819
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,423
the catholic church
had on Poland's people.
820
00:39:12,970 --> 00:39:16,010
Contact between Washington
and John Paul ii
821
00:39:16,010 --> 00:39:19,670
had actually begun during
Jimmy Carter's presidency.
822
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:23,500
Zbigniew brzezinski, then
national security advisor.
823
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,940
- [Brzezinski] Through his great diplomacy
824
00:39:25,940 --> 00:39:30,940
and personal skills to create
a very good and excellent
825
00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:34,523
and outstanding relationship
with pope John Paul ii.
826
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,120
- [Peter] When Reagan was
sworn into office in 1981--
827
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,080
- I, Ronald Reagan, do solemnly swear
828
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,480
that I will faithfully execute
829
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,670
the office of president
of the United States.
830
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:48,770
- [Peter] The contact with
the Vatican intensified.
831
00:39:48,770 --> 00:39:50,660
Reagan asked to be informed of everything
832
00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:52,170
that occurred in Poland,
833
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:54,970
and told Richard Allen, his security aide,
834
00:39:54,970 --> 00:39:57,670
and CIA director, William Casey,
835
00:39:57,670 --> 00:40:00,350
to keep the subject front and center.
836
00:40:00,350 --> 00:40:03,050
Brzezinski was kept on as a consultant
837
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:06,360
which meant continued
contact with John Paul ii.
838
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,537
Brzezinski said, "we
involved the pope directly.
839
00:40:09,537 --> 00:40:12,367
"I can't go into details, Casey ran it.
840
00:40:12,367 --> 00:40:14,567
"If something needed
to be done it was done.
841
00:40:14,567 --> 00:40:18,210
"To sustain an underground
effort takes a lot of effort."
842
00:40:18,210 --> 00:40:20,540
- [Peter] The CIA, under
Casey's leadership,
843
00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:23,680
monitored the situation on
the ground in Eastern Europe.
844
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,770
Bill Clark, meanwhile, was tapped to act
845
00:40:25,770 --> 00:40:27,970
as a clandestine messenger to the pope
846
00:40:27,970 --> 00:40:31,423
in an ongoing mission
codenamed cappuccino.
847
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:34,330
The moniker came from the coffee
848
00:40:34,330 --> 00:40:37,350
prepared by archbishop pio laghi,
849
00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:40,110
who was the Vatican's
ambassador to the US,
850
00:40:40,110 --> 00:40:43,180
and was designated
secret contact for Clark.
851
00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:45,410
- They were meeting constantly.
852
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:46,960
Clark thinks that it might have been
853
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,570
as often as maybe even once a week,
854
00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:52,140
and Clark said that he and Casey,
855
00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:53,470
when they would talk on the phone,
856
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:56,460
sometimes afraid that the
phones might be bugged,
857
00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:59,160
that there might be listening
devices in the phones,
858
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,570
when they felt the need to
get in touch with laghi,
859
00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:04,330
to get in touch with the Vatican,
860
00:41:04,330 --> 00:41:06,570
Clark or Casey would say to the other
861
00:41:06,570 --> 00:41:09,173
I think it's time we
get a cappuccino break.
862
00:41:10,410 --> 00:41:14,020
And they had a very
strict policy of no notes,
863
00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:17,740
no cameras and no media whatsoever.
864
00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:19,800
- It was the Reagan administration
865
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,800
that gave full diplomatic
status to the Vatican.
866
00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,790
- [Peter] Casey flew
missions around the world
867
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:30,320
in a c-141 windowless black jet
868
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,220
and made a point to visit
Rome to share intelligence
869
00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:36,010
and to urge the pope at Reagan's behest
870
00:41:36,010 --> 00:41:37,460
to keep up the pressure.
871
00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:40,840
He wanted the pontiff to
understand america's position
872
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,370
that the Soviets pose threats
not just in Eastern Europe
873
00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:45,420
but around the globe.
874
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,360
- So now you have the two
sides really working together
875
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,150
at the level of say, Poland.
876
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:56,790
Previously, this pope
had gone into Poland,
877
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:58,550
met with people, talked to people,
878
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:59,990
really saw on the ground
879
00:41:59,990 --> 00:42:02,110
what the solidarity movement was,
880
00:42:02,110 --> 00:42:04,490
what religious belief was in the country.
881
00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:09,100
- [Richard] I shared some
satellite photos with bill Casey
882
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:13,610
and I know that he took
some of those to Rome
883
00:42:13,610 --> 00:42:16,120
to show to the holy father.
884
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,420
- [Peter] Vernon Walters,
885
00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:20,040
deputy director of central intelligence,
886
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,050
was dispatched to Rome in 1981
887
00:42:23,050 --> 00:42:25,220
with something to show the pope.
888
00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:27,160
- One of the most
important outreaches here
889
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,690
liaisons was bill Casey.
890
00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:30,220
Bill Casey and Vernon Walters,
891
00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:32,340
an extraordinary man, Vernon Walters,
892
00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:34,730
an ambassador who spoke a
bunch of different languages,
893
00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:36,770
fluent in multi languages.
894
00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:40,930
And they would fly often back
and forth to the Vatican.
895
00:42:40,930 --> 00:42:43,940
And they would brief the
holy father in person.
896
00:42:43,940 --> 00:42:44,930
- [Peter] During his visit,
897
00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:46,810
Walters placed an envelope on the table
898
00:42:46,810 --> 00:42:48,340
in front of the pope.
899
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:50,750
Inside were satellite photographs.
900
00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:55,040
The pope immediately recognized
the gdansk Lenin shipyard
901
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,567
where solidarity had been born.
902
00:42:57,567 --> 00:43:00,320
What is this, asked the vicar of Christ,
903
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,860
pointing to a circle.
904
00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:04,080
Walter replied, heavy equipment
905
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,360
for use by Polish security forces.
906
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,550
Then they looked at other
images that showed missiles
907
00:43:09,550 --> 00:43:12,360
programmed to reach
Western Europe in minutes.
908
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,070
- So Casey would share
with the holy father
909
00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:18,510
pictures of Soviet troop
movements in Poland,
910
00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:21,410
of missile locations in czechoslovakia,
911
00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:25,460
and the pope would look
at the minute details
912
00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:27,750
of these different satellite images,
913
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:31,070
and he was just blown
away, impressed by this.
914
00:43:31,070 --> 00:43:32,600
- [Peter] Walters was much more interested
915
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,260
in what they knew about the
internal situation in Poland.
916
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:38,250
He had with Walters called
917
00:43:38,250 --> 00:43:41,360
the oldest intelligence
service in the world.
918
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,860
Walters, like Reagan, was convinced
919
00:43:43,860 --> 00:43:47,023
the real power in Poland was wojtyla.
920
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,100
(Music)
921
00:43:59,410 --> 00:44:03,530
The images Walters had shared
made John Paul ii believe he,
922
00:44:03,530 --> 00:44:05,430
in fact, might have been a target
923
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:07,273
of communist bad intentions.
924
00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:12,320
Since the attempt on
the pope's life in 1981,
925
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,410
questions of blame swirled
around intelligence circles.
926
00:44:16,410 --> 00:44:17,530
- From the very beginning,
927
00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:20,340
Ronald Reagan, bill Casey, bill Clark,
928
00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:22,190
they suspected a possible Soviet hand
929
00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:24,540
in the shooting of the pope
from the very beginning,
930
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:27,000
and then as they started to learn
931
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,470
of a possible Bulgarian connection
932
00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:31,880
to the shooter, mehmet Ali agca.
933
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,380
- [Peter] Few people aware
of the ways of the kremlin,
934
00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:38,600
believed the Bulgarians, who
were dutiful stooges of Moscow,
935
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,290
acted on their own.
936
00:44:40,290 --> 00:44:42,550
- In that period and at that time,
937
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:44,600
the secret services of
all of those countries
938
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,590
were very much under the kgb's roof,
939
00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:50,580
and it would have been a kgb
decision to use the Bulgarians
940
00:44:50,580 --> 00:44:52,630
to carry something like that out.
941
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:54,210
- The Bulgarian communist leadership
942
00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:56,070
didn't get up in the morning
and put their pants on
943
00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:58,010
without getting kgb approval.
944
00:44:58,010 --> 00:45:01,760
So as this became clear
a Bulgarian connection,
945
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,440
as mehmet Ali agca himself
named the kgb in one moment
946
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,600
when he was being led
out of an Italian prison
947
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,370
to an Italian courthouse in 1983,
948
00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:16,100
all of this for Ronald Reagan
and bill Casey and bill Clark
949
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:19,090
only further fueled what
they had already suspected
950
00:45:19,090 --> 00:45:20,040
from the beginning.
951
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:25,280
- [Peter] At the time of
the assassination attempt,
952
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,490
the Italian press raised questions
953
00:45:27,490 --> 00:45:30,490
about who might have
masterminded the plot.
954
00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:33,270
The distinguished American
journalist, Clara sterling,
955
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:35,150
who was based in Rome,
956
00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:37,900
also reported on the attempted murder.
957
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,470
- CIA director, Casey,
958
00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:42,790
was impressed by
sterling's level of detail,
959
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:45,590
particularly her ability
to detect discrepancies
960
00:45:45,590 --> 00:45:48,690
in the stories the
gunman, agca, was telling.
961
00:45:48,690 --> 00:45:50,840
In her front-page article
in the New York times,
962
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,810
sterling strongly suggested
a Soviet hand at work,
963
00:45:54,810 --> 00:45:57,660
although she did not present any evidence.
964
00:45:57,660 --> 00:46:00,960
The CIA continued to
investigate sterling's theory.
965
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,140
Supposedly, a document existed that said
966
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:08,000
nine comrades from the central
committee should disorder.
967
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,750
Use all possibilities of the Soviet union
968
00:46:10,750 --> 00:46:12,900
to prevent the course of policies
969
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,280
initiated by the Polish pope,
970
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,350
if necessary, with additional measures
971
00:46:18,350 --> 00:46:22,074
beyond disinformation
and discreditization.
972
00:46:22,074 --> 00:46:24,324
(Gun shot)
973
00:46:26,134 --> 00:46:28,384
(Gun shot)
974
00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:32,440
(Gun shot)
975
00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:35,760
- I think everybody is trying to find
976
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,130
the smoking memorandum here.
977
00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:41,760
No one would have written
down go shoot the pope.
978
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,900
That's not the way that game worked.
979
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:47,430
- But a number of people
have read that document
980
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:51,550
including the Italian secret
service sisde, s-i-s-d-e,
981
00:46:51,550 --> 00:46:55,010
and they believe that that
document was an actual call
982
00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:58,300
for the physical
elimination of John Paul ii.
983
00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:00,060
- There's one thing about a bureaucracy
984
00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:03,100
that people need to understand
is that they are committed
985
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:04,890
to committing everything to writing.
986
00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:08,170
Bureaucrats love to see
their name in writing,
987
00:47:08,170 --> 00:47:11,130
bureaucrats love to
commit things to paper.
988
00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:12,760
And it doesn't matter
whether it's a bureaucrat
989
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,920
in the kremlin, or a
bureaucrat in the Soviet union,
990
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,750
or a bureaucrat in Washington.
991
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:21,290
- This speculation is
absolutely warranted.
992
00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:24,060
We use deductive logic,
993
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:25,790
we collect
994
00:47:27,250 --> 00:47:29,410
shreds and pieces
995
00:47:29,410 --> 00:47:32,580
to restore a picture because the kremlin
996
00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:36,090
does not allow US into its archives.
997
00:47:36,090 --> 00:47:39,660
- Well, put it like this, there's no way
998
00:47:39,660 --> 00:47:43,250
that Bulgarian secret service
is going to murder the,
999
00:47:43,250 --> 00:47:46,280
attempt to murder the pope, any pope,
1000
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,520
but particularly this pope,
1001
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,530
without clearing it with the Soviet union.
1002
00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:54,200
- But it was done so with the blessing,
1003
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,700
the go-ahead, the
approval, the green light
1004
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,538
of the head of the kgb, a
guy named Yuri andropov.
1005
00:48:01,538 --> 00:48:04,538
(Suspenseful music)
1006
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:09,150
- [Peter] Though the
exact date of the meeting
1007
00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:12,380
was never fully confirmed,
Casey met with Reagan
1008
00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:14,443
in the spring of 1985.
1009
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:18,280
Casey and the president that the Soviets
1010
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,530
had ordered the assassination
attempt on the pope.
1011
00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:23,283
There were more convincing clues.
1012
00:48:25,029 --> 00:48:27,340
(Soft music)
1013
00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:31,090
In 2006, Paul kengor met with bill Clarke,
1014
00:48:31,090 --> 00:48:32,530
long retired from his post
1015
00:48:32,530 --> 00:48:35,660
as national security
adviser to President Reagan,
1016
00:48:35,660 --> 00:48:38,190
at Clark's California ranch.
1017
00:48:38,190 --> 00:48:40,840
Kengor discovered a piece of paper
1018
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,470
with a rare public
statement Clark had made
1019
00:48:43,470 --> 00:48:46,120
in Las Vegas in 1984
1020
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,120
at a reunion of army
counterintelligence veterans.
1021
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,240
The statement made clear that
Clark suspected the Soviets
1022
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,140
were behind the assassination
attempt of the pope.
1023
00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:58,850
It even had a penciled-in
note suggesting a Bulgarian,
1024
00:48:58,850 --> 00:49:00,913
and therefore, Soviet connection.
1025
00:49:02,140 --> 00:49:04,070
But was there enough proof?
1026
00:49:04,070 --> 00:49:06,870
- Something that's obviously
very intriguing about this
1027
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:10,390
is that working in the kgb
in the 1980s at the time,
1028
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:14,520
was a lower ranking lieutenant
colonel named Vladimir putin.
1029
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,810
Now, to be clear, there's no
way that putin would've known
1030
00:49:17,810 --> 00:49:20,580
anything about this at the
time, the shooting of the pope,
1031
00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:22,750
there's no way he would
have been involved.
1032
00:49:22,750 --> 00:49:26,310
This was the tightest thing
that the Soviets ever did
1033
00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:30,490
in their 3/4 of a century
of murder and mayhem.
1034
00:49:30,490 --> 00:49:32,980
Very, very few people knew about this.
1035
00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:34,820
However, I think it's,
1036
00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:38,570
I can't imagine that
today, Vladimir putin,
1037
00:49:38,570 --> 00:49:42,930
who's been in charge of the
former Soviet union, of Russia,
1038
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:44,610
since the year 2000.
1039
00:49:44,610 --> 00:49:48,537
He surely now knows today
what exactly happened,
1040
00:49:48,537 --> 00:49:53,090
and what exactly the role
the kgb and the gru was.
1041
00:49:53,090 --> 00:49:54,350
- [Peter] All these years later,
1042
00:49:54,350 --> 00:49:56,483
the report is still under wraps.
1043
00:49:57,850 --> 00:49:59,080
Why?
1044
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,860
Is the US government worried
about offending today's Russia?
1045
00:50:02,860 --> 00:50:06,060
Is it sensitive to the
concerns of Vladimir putin
1046
00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:08,620
who might want to protect his former boss,
1047
00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:12,387
one time Soviet
secretary-general, Yuri andropov?
1048
00:50:12,387 --> 00:50:15,770
And his former employee the kgb?
1049
00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:17,780
Or is the US government being sensitive
1050
00:50:17,780 --> 00:50:19,980
to the concerns of the Vatican,
1051
00:50:19,980 --> 00:50:22,913
which still doesn't want to
see international division?
1052
00:50:24,070 --> 00:50:26,400
Those are questions still unanswered,
1053
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,110
but in real time, and in the
course of the divine plan,
1054
00:50:30,110 --> 00:50:32,410
there would be no more hiding the truth
1055
00:50:32,410 --> 00:50:35,120
even the pope himself
would come to conceived,
1056
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,260
albeit privately, that he also knew
1057
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:40,783
who was behind his assassination.
1058
00:50:42,445 --> 00:50:44,862
(Soft music)
1059
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,350
The pope suspected early
on that Soviet intelligence
1060
00:50:50,350 --> 00:50:52,550
had ordered the assassination,
1061
00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:56,330
but ultimately, he did not
want the subject exposed.
1062
00:50:56,330 --> 00:51:00,450
- John Paul ii's response
I'm told was I know,
1063
00:51:00,450 --> 00:51:03,680
I figured this, this
doesn't surprise me at all,
1064
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,810
but he didn't want the United States
1065
00:51:05,810 --> 00:51:07,410
to make a big deal out of it,
1066
00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:10,620
didn't want the United States
to release that information.
1067
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:12,720
- [Peter] What was done was done,
1068
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,640
and he did not want to
derail the crucial dialogue
1069
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,720
that it opened up between
the Vatican and the new
1070
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:22,989
and very different Soviet
leader, mikhail gorbachev.
1071
00:51:22,989 --> 00:51:25,480
(Soft music)
1072
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,690
Gorbachev's star, like
Reagan's and the pope's,
1073
00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:30,430
had risen steadily.
1074
00:51:30,430 --> 00:51:32,930
He ascended through the
ranks of the Porter bureau
1075
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:37,133
to become president of the ussr.
1076
00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:42,420
To friends and colleagues,
the pope refer to gorbachev
1077
00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:44,430
as the providential man.
1078
00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:47,650
- [Man] That somehow, that
he was part of a kind of
1079
00:51:47,650 --> 00:51:50,750
cosmic realignment that was going on,
1080
00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:54,210
that the moment was right
for change in the world
1081
00:51:54,210 --> 00:51:57,590
because gorbachev was willing to recognize
1082
00:51:57,590 --> 00:52:00,760
what was heinous and wrong
with not just stalinism,
1083
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,450
but you know, the kgb and brezhnev,
1084
00:52:05,450 --> 00:52:07,213
and that there was this hope.
1085
00:52:08,292 --> 00:52:10,875
(Solemn music)
1086
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,540
- [Peter] With gorbachev,
the pope and the president
1087
00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:20,660
found a new cast member introduced
to this historical drama,
1088
00:52:20,660 --> 00:52:22,823
one that had the power to transform.
1089
00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:26,120
- If you wanted to set the scene
1090
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,910
for the late 70s, early 80s,
1091
00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:31,080
a dramatic moment in time,
1092
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,350
you would have been very hard-pressed
1093
00:52:33,350 --> 00:52:35,700
to think up these four characters,
1094
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:40,440
and moreover, these four
characters at the same time.
1095
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,550
- [Peter] The communist creed
1096
00:52:41,550 --> 00:52:46,080
that dominated Russian politics
since the revolution of 1917
1097
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,830
would no longer hold.
1098
00:52:47,830 --> 00:52:50,260
It was time to pull back the iron curtain
1099
00:52:50,260 --> 00:52:54,250
and shine the new light of
glasnost and perestroika.
1100
00:52:54,250 --> 00:52:57,023
Glasnost, reform and restructuring.
1101
00:52:57,990 --> 00:53:02,090
Perestroika, a promised new
opening in the Soviet union.
1102
00:53:02,090 --> 00:53:04,880
- Glasnost was really a radical change
1103
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,730
because this was, glasnost,
was initially meant to be
1104
00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:08,563
part of an economic reform,
1105
00:53:08,563 --> 00:53:11,100
it was the Soviet union was going to,
1106
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,780
people were going to speak
honestly about problems,
1107
00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:15,130
our factories don't work,
1108
00:53:15,130 --> 00:53:16,830
our distribution system is terrible,
1109
00:53:16,830 --> 00:53:20,350
we have all these shortages,
we have these disasters,
1110
00:53:20,350 --> 00:53:21,850
let's talk about them honestly,
1111
00:53:21,850 --> 00:53:23,860
because that's the
prerequisite to fixing them,
1112
00:53:23,860 --> 00:53:26,730
so let's have open and
positive conversations.
1113
00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:29,160
- [Peter] Gorbachev was
nothing if not a realist,
1114
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,170
and he began loosening some of the chains
1115
00:53:31,170 --> 00:53:33,060
that had constricted Russian life
1116
00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:35,770
including those that ruled religion.
1117
00:53:35,770 --> 00:53:39,390
- Ironically, it was western liberalism,
1118
00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:42,730
classical liberalism
which gorbachev instituted
1119
00:53:42,730 --> 00:53:45,150
with glasnost and perestroika,
1120
00:53:45,150 --> 00:53:47,990
which are basically western liberal ideas
1121
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:50,480
that were his undoing.
1122
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,700
Gorbachev was actually unintentionally
1123
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:56,160
hollowing out the Soviet union
1124
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,450
by admitting everything they stood for
1125
00:53:58,450 --> 00:54:01,855
for the past 77 years, had been wrong.
1126
00:54:01,855 --> 00:54:03,890
(Soft music)
1127
00:54:03,890 --> 00:54:06,610
- [Peter] It was obvious
to anyone paying attention
1128
00:54:06,610 --> 00:54:08,910
that the empire was crumbling.
1129
00:54:08,910 --> 00:54:11,120
Meanwhile, the western liberal press
1130
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,160
began to treat gorbachev as a hero
1131
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,250
with his promised new era of glasnost.
1132
00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:18,600
Reagan and the pope for more cautious,
1133
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,500
but they hoped a dawn of peace would come
1134
00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:22,810
with a help with this new Soviet leader.
1135
00:54:22,810 --> 00:54:25,220
- [Man] Unlike his three predecessors,
1136
00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:28,363
konstantin chernenko, Yuri
andropov and leonid brezhnev,
1137
00:54:29,950 --> 00:54:34,730
gorbachev did not see his closest friends
1138
00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:39,730
dragged down into the basement
of lubyanka prison in Moscow
1139
00:54:40,460 --> 00:54:44,032
and assassinated with a bullet
in the back of the head.
1140
00:54:44,032 --> 00:54:44,910
(Gun shot)
1141
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:49,910
He didn't have that cold,
almost reptilian look
1142
00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:52,070
that the others had.
1143
00:54:52,070 --> 00:54:57,070
- He set out to do something
that was unachievable,
1144
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,130
namely to save the Soviet
union from its own sclerosis.
1145
00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:06,720
- You can't reform something
that's fundamentally mistaken
1146
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,490
in its basic ideas.
1147
00:55:08,490 --> 00:55:12,110
- Once you began speaking
honestly about the way things are,
1148
00:55:12,110 --> 00:55:14,400
people immediately began
to want to speak honestly
1149
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,580
about everything including the past.
1150
00:55:16,580 --> 00:55:18,943
What had really happened under Stalin?
1151
00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:22,420
What was the gulag?
1152
00:55:22,420 --> 00:55:25,419
Why did all those people
disappear into nowhere?
1153
00:55:25,419 --> 00:55:28,419
(Suspenseful music)
1154
00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:32,460
- Of all the freedoms in the Soviet union
1155
00:55:32,460 --> 00:55:34,230
that were among the most repressed
1156
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:37,540
and that most bothered Ronald
Reagan and John Paul ii
1157
00:55:37,540 --> 00:55:39,810
was the repression of religious freedom.
1158
00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:44,530
And to the two of them, when
mikhail gorbachev came in
1159
00:55:44,530 --> 00:55:47,730
with his glasnost, allowed
for freedom of press,
1160
00:55:47,730 --> 00:55:50,990
freedom of speech, freedom of
assembly, those are all great,
1161
00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:53,800
but not where as important
as a freedom of religion
1162
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,130
that gorbachev allowed.
1163
00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:58,283
- [Peter] Reagan said,
"freedom is like a genie.
1164
00:55:58,283 --> 00:55:59,737
" Gorbachev learned this.
1165
00:55:59,737 --> 00:56:01,927
"When you let that
genie out of the bottle,
1166
00:56:01,927 --> 00:56:04,270
"you can't put it back in."
1167
00:56:04,270 --> 00:56:08,210
- It became such a
widespread movement in Russia
1168
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:11,253
that they didn't know how
to control or contain it.
1169
00:56:12,130 --> 00:56:15,660
And so he, in many ways, gorbachev became
1170
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:19,560
popular in the United States,
popular with conservatives
1171
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,730
in the US and Western Europe,
1172
00:56:21,730 --> 00:56:25,170
and a man without a home in Russia.
1173
00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:28,610
- In Russia, he is not
remembered as a hero.
1174
00:56:28,610 --> 00:56:30,970
On the contrary, he's
remembered as the man
1175
00:56:30,970 --> 00:56:32,480
who brought down the Soviet empire,
1176
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,350
and is the man who
triggered a decade's worth
1177
00:56:35,350 --> 00:56:37,073
of economic catastrophe.
1178
00:56:38,018 --> 00:56:40,435
(Soft music)
1179
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:48,750
- Once a totalitarian
state begins to acknowledge
1180
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:51,400
an elementary human right,
1181
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,793
it's like tugging on a
thread in a tapestry.
1182
00:56:56,073 --> 00:56:59,730
If you tug hard enough on that one thread,
1183
00:56:59,730 --> 00:57:02,290
the whole thing is going to unravel.
1184
00:57:02,290 --> 00:57:05,320
- [Peter] The stage was set
for the end of the cold war.
1185
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,050
What would be the final breaking point
1186
00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:10,020
if indeed there was a divine plan?
1187
00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:12,110
A key element would be
stopping the madness
1188
00:57:12,110 --> 00:57:15,513
of the nuclear arms race between
the two global superpowers.
1189
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:21,390
Reagan and gorbachev met five
times between 1985 and 1988.
1190
00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:23,994
The first meeting was in Geneva.
1191
00:57:23,994 --> 00:57:25,700
- The president and I were
sitting in front of this fire
1192
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:28,870
waiting for the gorbachev
motorcade to arrive.
1193
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:30,250
And it was just the two of US
1194
00:57:30,250 --> 00:57:33,100
and I said how are we gonna
get rid of it forever?
1195
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:36,820
And he looked at me and
without skipping a beat said
1196
00:57:36,820 --> 00:57:39,120
oh Jim, that's only gonna happen
1197
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,503
because of the people's
desire to know god.
1198
00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:45,120
- [Peter] Reagan had faith in the process.
1199
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,770
- And Reagan recognized that
tough rhetoric mattered,
1200
00:57:48,770 --> 00:57:51,550
and that, you know, his most famous saying
1201
00:57:51,550 --> 00:57:55,200
about the Soviets is trust but verify.
1202
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,210
Basically, we don't trust you,
and nobody should trust you.
1203
00:57:59,210 --> 00:58:01,880
That you're a kingdom of lies and secrecy,
1204
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,310
that the kgb is corrupt.
1205
00:58:04,310 --> 00:58:05,970
- [Peter] Finally, it appeared that a door
1206
00:58:05,970 --> 00:58:08,260
in the negotiations had opened.
1207
00:58:08,260 --> 00:58:11,320
It was October 11th, 1986.
1208
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,860
A summit between Reagan and gorbachev
1209
00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:17,550
was hastily arranged
in Reykjavik, Iceland.
1210
00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:20,170
When they met, Reagan
noticed that gorbachev
1211
00:58:20,170 --> 00:58:22,730
often invoked god in the conversation.
1212
00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:25,717
The one thing that always angered Reagan
1213
00:58:25,717 --> 00:58:29,140
was that in the Soviet union,
you couldn't have a Bible,
1214
00:58:29,140 --> 00:58:31,710
that you couldn't have freedom of worship,
1215
00:58:31,710 --> 00:58:36,240
at dinner during the toast,
gorbachev quoted ecclesiastes,
1216
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,160
ending with a time to
throw away the stones
1217
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,820
and a time to gather the stones together.
1218
00:58:42,820 --> 00:58:47,060
- This mattered to him and
I think gave him fortitude
1219
00:58:47,060 --> 00:58:52,060
in his anticommunist
policies in the 1980s.
1220
00:58:53,260 --> 00:58:55,150
- [Peter] In fact,
gorbachev admitted later
1221
00:58:55,150 --> 00:58:56,670
to a top aide of John Paul ii
1222
00:58:57,730 --> 00:58:59,850
that his mother and
three of his grandparents
1223
00:58:59,850 --> 00:59:01,260
had been christians,
1224
00:59:01,260 --> 00:59:03,020
and that he was secretly baptized
1225
00:59:03,020 --> 00:59:05,330
in the Russian orthodox church.
1226
00:59:05,330 --> 00:59:09,060
Later in November 1989,
he would make a speech
1227
00:59:09,060 --> 00:59:12,750
in which he affirmed the need
for spirituality in the world
1228
00:59:12,750 --> 00:59:16,437
and it called for, "a
revolution in men's souls.
1229
00:59:16,437 --> 00:59:18,747
"Religion helps perestroika.
1230
00:59:18,747 --> 00:59:20,377
"We have given up pretending
1231
00:59:20,377 --> 00:59:22,487
"to have a monopoly on the truth."
1232
00:59:23,890 --> 00:59:28,290
- But Reagan's thoughts and
pope John Paul ii's thoughts
1233
00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:30,620
had penetrated the Soviet state
1234
00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:32,940
to allow a new way of thinking.
1235
00:59:32,940 --> 00:59:35,500
Even more astonishing than that admission,
1236
00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:37,810
was the sight the next day in 1989
1237
00:59:37,810 --> 00:59:41,410
of a limousine bearing the
flag with a hammer and sickle,
1238
00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:44,160
motoring down the Avenue to the Vatican.
1239
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,800
In that visit, a communist and a pope
1240
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,593
would meet for the first time.
1241
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,270
Back in Reykjavik, Reagan and gorbachev
1242
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:55,300
continued the negotiations
1243
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:56,520
hoping to strike a deal
1244
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,100
to control intermediate-range
ballistic missiles.
1245
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:02,870
The stage was set for progress.
1246
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:04,870
They already shared with one another
1247
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:09,210
their intense desire to
abolish nuclear weapons.
1248
01:00:09,210 --> 01:00:12,490
Reagan's arms control
director, Ken adelman,
1249
01:00:12,490 --> 01:00:14,920
described the meeting as intense.
1250
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,730
Reagan and gorbachev
talked for 10 1/2 hours.
1251
01:00:18,730 --> 01:00:21,400
- [H.w.] With Reagan, he was
patient, he was pragmatic.
1252
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,510
You don't have to win it all
at once, Reagan used to say.
1253
01:00:24,510 --> 01:00:27,340
I would rather get 80% of what I want,
1254
01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:29,510
than go over the cliff
with my flags flying.
1255
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:32,100
Because Reagan understood,
maybe you get 80% today,
1256
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,280
you come back tomorrow,
you get a bit more.
1257
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,460
- [Peter] There was no knowledge gap
1258
01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:37,070
between the two leaders.
1259
01:00:37,070 --> 01:00:39,860
They came within sight of
an incredible agreement
1260
01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:42,580
theretofore unimaginable.
1261
01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:45,460
Until gorbachev demanded
that Reagan give up his dream
1262
01:00:45,460 --> 01:00:48,780
of sdi, the strategic defense initiative,
1263
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:52,780
the missile program
popularly known as star wars.
1264
01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:56,270
- [Craig] Sti was an idea,
but it was Reagan's idea,
1265
01:00:56,270 --> 01:00:59,410
and it terrified gorbachev
and the Soviet generals.
1266
01:00:59,410 --> 01:01:02,570
- After all, we did put
Neil Armstrong on the moon
1267
01:01:02,570 --> 01:01:04,420
in the summer of 1969.
1268
01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:06,310
We won the space race,
1269
01:01:06,310 --> 01:01:09,430
and the Soviets couldn't
believe that we did feat,
1270
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:11,540
and then when we said we're now creating
1271
01:01:11,540 --> 01:01:13,950
a strategic defense initiative,
1272
01:01:13,950 --> 01:01:16,450
a protective shield for nuclear weapons
1273
01:01:16,450 --> 01:01:21,450
that will make US never
vulnerable to Soviet missiles,
1274
01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:24,970
they believed we had that technology.
1275
01:01:24,970 --> 01:01:26,650
- [Peter] Reagan was adamant.
1276
01:01:26,650 --> 01:01:30,500
There would be no capitulation on sdi.
1277
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:32,460
Gorbachev would not budge either.
1278
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:34,820
He complained and not just once,
1279
01:01:34,820 --> 01:01:36,653
I am making all the concessions.
1280
01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:39,690
Each time Reagan said nothing.
1281
01:01:39,690 --> 01:01:41,210
He never answered.
1282
01:01:41,210 --> 01:01:43,650
According to adelman on
the plane going home,
1283
01:01:43,650 --> 01:01:48,150
gorbachev complained to his
staff, I give away things.
1284
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:50,270
The two left Reykjavik at an impasse,
1285
01:01:50,270 --> 01:01:52,740
although Reagan clearly
have the upper hand.
1286
01:01:52,740 --> 01:01:54,660
They both faced the hard truth
1287
01:01:54,660 --> 01:01:57,600
that nuclear war was a continuing threat,
1288
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,780
and agreed to meet again in Washington
1289
01:01:59,780 --> 01:02:02,970
which would take place 14 months later.
1290
01:02:02,970 --> 01:02:04,770
This was December 1987.
1291
01:02:06,580 --> 01:02:09,163
(Solemn music)
1292
01:02:15,290 --> 01:02:17,370
In a speech a week before Reykjavik,
1293
01:02:17,370 --> 01:02:20,610
Reagan began to pressure
gorbachev on religious freedom.
1294
01:02:20,610 --> 01:02:22,550
- How can we help but doubt a government
1295
01:02:22,550 --> 01:02:24,170
that mistrusts its own people
1296
01:02:24,170 --> 01:02:25,940
and holds them against their will?
1297
01:02:25,940 --> 01:02:28,280
- [Peter] Despite some
loosening of restrictions,
1298
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,450
the ussr continued to suppress
1299
01:02:30,450 --> 01:02:34,110
and even jail Russian Jews
for practicing their faith,
1300
01:02:34,110 --> 01:02:36,360
and would not let them emigrate.
1301
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,890
Reagan badly wanted a treaty
1302
01:02:37,890 --> 01:02:39,270
that would eliminate intermediate
1303
01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:41,870
and short-range nuclear missiles,
1304
01:02:41,870 --> 01:02:44,653
but he could not remain
silent about human rights.
1305
01:02:46,060 --> 01:02:48,710
The state department worried
that his outspokenness
1306
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:49,910
would jeopardize a treaty
1307
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:53,190
that was so close to
being a fait accompli.
1308
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:55,670
Reagan also demanded the legalization
1309
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:57,760
of the Ukrainian catholic church
1310
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,490
which must have resonated
with John Paul ii
1311
01:03:00,490 --> 01:03:02,480
while enraging the Soviets.
1312
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,520
But gorbachev was ready to finalize
1313
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,550
the intermediate-range
nuclear forces inf treaty.
1314
01:03:08,550 --> 01:03:12,440
He stated, I am convinced it is god's will
1315
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,913
that we should cooperate.
1316
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:18,040
- They went head to head
on a number of occasions,
1317
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,300
especially at Reykjavik,
1318
01:03:19,300 --> 01:03:21,871
and Reagan is just kind
of trying to figure,
1319
01:03:21,871 --> 01:03:23,620
why can't you come to an agreement?
1320
01:03:23,620 --> 01:03:25,300
Gorbachev is saying why
can't you agree with US?
1321
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:26,400
We're so close.
1322
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,930
But they do form this
personal relationship.
1323
01:03:28,930 --> 01:03:31,330
And in his last meeting with,
1324
01:03:31,330 --> 01:03:32,760
one of his last meetings with gorbachev,
1325
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,530
Reagan is asked if he
still believes something
1326
01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:36,210
that he said back in 1983,
1327
01:03:36,210 --> 01:03:39,490
is the Soviet union an evil empire?
1328
01:03:39,490 --> 01:03:41,020
And Reagan doesn't repeat that.
1329
01:03:41,020 --> 01:03:42,740
He says those were different days.
1330
01:03:42,740 --> 01:03:45,060
Reagan finally came to the belief
1331
01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:48,920
that reform is possible
in the Soviet union.
1332
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,060
- [Peter] The nuclear freeze
1333
01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:53,220
was made official on December 8th, 1987
1334
01:03:53,220 --> 01:03:54,910
with the signing of the inf treaty
1335
01:03:54,910 --> 01:03:57,473
in the east room of the white house.
1336
01:03:59,250 --> 01:04:01,180
The date was also the feast day
1337
01:04:01,180 --> 01:04:03,930
of the immaculate conception
of the blessed virgin Mary
1338
01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:08,903
to whom the pope is consecrated
his life and papacy.
1339
01:04:09,850 --> 01:04:13,150
At this moment John Paul ii
was behind the iron curtain
1340
01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:15,300
on his third trip to Poland.
1341
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:19,110
This time you traveled to
gdansk and met with lech walesa,
1342
01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:22,480
giving as a story in Robert's
service would characterize,
1343
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,820
an ecclesiastical
benediction to solidarity.
1344
01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:27,900
- So one of the things
that clearly happened
1345
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:29,430
at the end of the 1980s,
1346
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:31,900
is that some members of
some of the Soviet elite,
1347
01:04:31,900 --> 01:04:34,120
and obviously gorbachev is one of them,
1348
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:39,120
stopped seeing the west as
an evil demon, as a threat.
1349
01:04:40,170 --> 01:04:42,150
- [Peter] President Reagan was besieged
1350
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:43,660
not just from the left.
1351
01:04:43,660 --> 01:04:45,190
Conservatives were furious
1352
01:04:45,190 --> 01:04:46,570
that dealing with the gorbachev
1353
01:04:46,570 --> 01:04:50,540
was betraying his long-held
cold war principles.
1354
01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:52,040
And before he spoke in Berlin,
1355
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,530
officials from the state department
1356
01:04:53,530 --> 01:04:56,650
repeatedly tried to cut
a line from his speech.
1357
01:04:56,650 --> 01:04:59,130
It would be the line
that would reverberate
1358
01:04:59,130 --> 01:05:00,810
across the globe.
1359
01:05:00,810 --> 01:05:05,810
- General secretary
gorbachev, if you seek peace,
1360
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,780
if you seek prosperity
for the Soviet union
1361
01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:13,510
and Eastern Europe, if
you seek liberalization,
1362
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:15,900
come here to this gate.
1363
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:19,445
Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate.
1364
01:05:19,445 --> 01:05:21,530
(Crowd cheers)
1365
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:25,771
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
1366
01:05:25,771 --> 01:05:28,354
(Crowd cheers)
1367
01:05:29,530 --> 01:05:31,010
- [Peter] There was no turning back
1368
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:32,840
for the Soviet regime.
1369
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,190
The only question was
the speed of its fall.
1370
01:05:36,190 --> 01:05:40,010
- Toward the end,
gorbachev is out of power.
1371
01:05:40,010 --> 01:05:41,930
He's had the wisdom to
get down on his knees
1372
01:05:41,930 --> 01:05:44,650
ensue for peace and
beg the west for mercy.
1373
01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:46,390
And Reagan takes his cowboy appeal,
1374
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:48,950
and puts it on the neck
of Soviet communism,
1375
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:50,447
crushes the life out of it.
1376
01:05:50,447 --> 01:05:53,530
And gorbachev says shortly thereafter,
1377
01:05:53,530 --> 01:05:55,440
he said the future is clear
1378
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,090
and the future points to freedom.
1379
01:05:59,980 --> 01:06:00,970
- [Peter] John Paul ii
1380
01:06:00,970 --> 01:06:03,080
would pick up the torch of summitry,
1381
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,840
meeting one-on-one with
gorbachev at the Vatican
1382
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,860
in that truly historic meeting in 1989.
1383
01:06:09,860 --> 01:06:11,867
Even the New York times would write,
1384
01:06:11,867 --> 01:06:13,267
"for the first time ever
1385
01:06:13,267 --> 01:06:16,277
"the leader of atheistic Soviet communism
1386
01:06:16,277 --> 01:06:18,407
"meets the vicar of Christ."
1387
01:06:20,860 --> 01:06:24,000
Change had come so dramatically
in such a short time,
1388
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,290
and without a gun being fired.
1389
01:06:26,290 --> 01:06:28,670
One could only wonder
whether this was all part
1390
01:06:28,670 --> 01:06:30,460
of the divine plan.
1391
01:06:30,460 --> 01:06:33,540
Faith, though subjugated for decades,
1392
01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:36,083
had shown the power to change the world.
1393
01:06:37,970 --> 01:06:41,510
The election in Poland in 1989
was the first confirmation
1394
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:44,343
that the Soviet empire was
on its way to oblivion.
1395
01:06:46,550 --> 01:06:51,550
On November 9th, 1989,
the Berlin wall came down.
1396
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,113
The final act against the
Soviet empire drew to a close.
1397
01:06:57,980 --> 01:07:00,490
- They were both instruments of peace,
1398
01:07:00,490 --> 01:07:04,515
they were instruments of god
in this larger divine plan.
1399
01:07:04,515 --> 01:07:07,650
- I think we won the cold war,
1400
01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:09,900
but it may have just been round one,
1401
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:14,730
and alas you're seeing a cold
war ii emerging under putin.
1402
01:07:14,730 --> 01:07:17,140
- [Man] He's very
dangerous, he's a throwback.
1403
01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:19,860
He wants to reassemble
the old Soviet state.
1404
01:07:19,860 --> 01:07:22,810
He's a former kgb officer
1405
01:07:22,810 --> 01:07:25,570
who specialized in intelligence.
1406
01:07:25,570 --> 01:07:30,570
This is that putin knows the
Russian people mourn the past.
1407
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,680
- He is projecting himself as somebody
1408
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,140
who will bring back some kind of glory,
1409
01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:39,070
whether it's not quite the Soviet empire,
1410
01:07:39,070 --> 01:07:41,730
maybe it's the Russian empire.
1411
01:07:41,730 --> 01:07:45,240
Certainly it's Russia playing
role on the world stage again
1412
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,648
and having some kind of influence again.
1413
01:07:47,648 --> 01:07:50,648
(Suspenseful music)
1414
01:08:00,050 --> 01:08:02,040
(Soft music)
1415
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,150
- At the end of almost every speech,
1416
01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:08,487
Reagan invokes these
words from Thomas paine,
1417
01:08:08,487 --> 01:08:12,067
"remember we have it within our ability
1418
01:08:12,067 --> 01:08:14,940
"to begin the world over again."
1419
01:08:14,940 --> 01:08:18,543
Reagan felt that we did have that ability,
1420
01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:23,540
and he gives his audience
not only a charge
1421
01:08:23,540 --> 01:08:25,270
to go out and do that,
1422
01:08:25,270 --> 01:08:28,000
but the confidence he has in them
1423
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,563
that they will go out and
begin the world over again.
1424
01:08:33,870 --> 01:08:35,850
- [Peter] Were John Paul
ii and Ronald Reagan
1425
01:08:35,850 --> 01:08:39,616
directly responsible for
the fall of communism?
1426
01:08:39,616 --> 01:08:42,033
(Soft music)
1427
01:08:42,980 --> 01:08:45,510
- When people talk about
the pope being involved
1428
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:46,780
in the fall of communism,
1429
01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:47,890
they don't mean that the pope
1430
01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:50,030
was literally on the barricades.
1431
01:08:50,030 --> 01:08:51,633
What they mean is that the pope,
1432
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:55,830
the pope gave people an
alternative world view.
1433
01:08:55,830 --> 01:08:57,750
- [Peter] In comments
at westminster palace
1434
01:08:57,750 --> 01:09:00,060
in London in 1982,
1435
01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:01,860
Reagan said that the Soviet union
1436
01:09:01,860 --> 01:09:05,900
was gripped by a great
revolutionary crisis
1437
01:09:05,900 --> 01:09:08,180
in which Poland magnificently
1438
01:09:08,180 --> 01:09:11,490
unreconciled to repression was the pivot.
1439
01:09:11,490 --> 01:09:13,920
- There has been and will continue to be
1440
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,119
repeated explosions against
repression and dictatorships.
1441
01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:21,763
The Soviet union itself is
not immune to this reality.
1442
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,750
- The 20th century was a pretty
1443
01:09:26,750 --> 01:09:29,043
awful period in human history.
1444
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:33,240
Between the beginning of
the first world war in 1914
1445
01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:37,840
and the end of the cold war in 1991,
1446
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:42,690
something on the order of 70
to 80 million human beings
1447
01:09:42,690 --> 01:09:47,690
were killed not in war,
but by political violence.
1448
01:09:47,970 --> 01:09:51,010
This is a pretty awful record,
1449
01:09:51,010 --> 01:09:55,960
and yet the fact that the
20th century as an era
1450
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,760
ended with the victory of
freedom in the cold war,
1451
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,650
and that at the root of
that victory of freedom
1452
01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:05,921
was a revolution of conscience.
1453
01:10:05,921 --> 01:10:08,338
(Soft music)
1454
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,440
- If you really look at
the grand scope of this,
1455
01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:20,490
you have Ronald Reagan born in 1911,
1456
01:10:20,490 --> 01:10:24,420
the bolshevik revolution
breaks out in October 1917,
1457
01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:26,980
karol wojtyla was born in 1920,
1458
01:10:26,980 --> 01:10:31,150
and by the end of their
lives, of Reagan's presidency,
1459
01:10:31,150 --> 01:10:34,470
about halfway through John Paul ii papacy,
1460
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:38,170
bolshevik communism, atheistic
Soviet communism collapse,
1461
01:10:38,170 --> 01:10:41,200
which these two men tried
to force that to happen.
1462
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,210
And so they would see all of this
1463
01:10:43,210 --> 01:10:45,970
as a big, long battle of the 20th century
1464
01:10:45,970 --> 01:10:48,840
within the divine plan, the
divine scheme of things.
1465
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,110
- [Peter] And those under
the totalitarian states
1466
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:54,520
still held at gunpoint would gain strength
1467
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,563
in the light of the
western promise of freedom.
1468
01:10:57,563 --> 01:10:59,980
(Soft music)
1469
01:11:06,540 --> 01:11:09,160
- [Peter] Together Ronald
Reagan and John Paul ii
1470
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,580
acted to fight what they considered evil.
1471
01:11:12,580 --> 01:11:16,040
They met last at the
Vatican in September 1990
1472
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,420
near castel gandolfo.
1473
01:11:18,420 --> 01:11:20,930
It was to be their last meeting
1474
01:11:21,790 --> 01:11:25,630
which Nancy Reagan described
as warm and wonderful.
1475
01:11:25,630 --> 01:11:27,140
Reagan was already slipping
1476
01:11:27,140 --> 01:11:29,760
into the dim world of Alzheimer's.
1477
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,320
Finally, not even remembering
1478
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,480
that he had been president
of the United States.
1479
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:37,673
The pope began declining
from Parkinson's disease.
1480
01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:41,310
But a certain stage
presence was still evident
1481
01:11:41,310 --> 01:11:43,390
in these two former actors,
1482
01:11:43,390 --> 01:11:46,750
even is human frailty
would slowly take over,
1483
01:11:46,750 --> 01:11:48,200
they had to lean on others
1484
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,583
as they continued to
depend on their faith.
1485
01:11:51,770 --> 01:11:54,220
- From the first, then, our
nation embraced the belief
1486
01:11:54,220 --> 01:11:55,930
that the individual is sacred
1487
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,520
and that as god himself
respects human Liberty,
1488
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,563
so, too, must the state.
1489
01:12:04,940 --> 01:12:08,700
- From the beginning of
america, freedom was directed
1490
01:12:09,897 --> 01:12:12,460
to forming a well-ordered society
1491
01:12:13,599 --> 01:12:16,923
and to promoting its peaceful life.
1492
01:12:18,540 --> 01:12:22,603
Freedom was channeled to
the fullness of human life,
1493
01:12:23,695 --> 01:12:25,495
to the preservation of human dignity
1494
01:12:26,590 --> 01:12:30,433
and the safeguarding of human rights.
1495
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,740
- God wants to draw,
awaken, and enhance freedom
1496
01:12:35,740 --> 01:12:37,860
in such a way that his grace
1497
01:12:37,860 --> 01:12:39,803
can operate more fully in the world.
1498
01:12:41,190 --> 01:12:43,500
That's the discernment of the divine plan,
1499
01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:46,540
I think as both John Paul
and Ronald Reagan saw it.
1500
01:12:46,540 --> 01:12:50,050
- God is intimately
involved in human history
1501
01:12:50,050 --> 01:12:54,230
and one of the ways that he
most brings about his will,
1502
01:12:54,230 --> 01:12:59,230
often imperceptibly, and always
taking a long period of time
1503
01:12:59,810 --> 01:13:04,130
would be in the cultivation
of wise leaders.
1504
01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:07,340
- Which is good for the world,
1505
01:13:07,340 --> 01:13:09,940
and it's good for those whom god raises up
1506
01:13:09,940 --> 01:13:11,470
because the more they surrender to him,
1507
01:13:11,470 --> 01:13:13,490
the more they become themselves.
1508
01:13:13,490 --> 01:13:16,220
- [Peter] In 2004, president George w bush
1509
01:13:16,220 --> 01:13:19,120
presented the pope with the
presidential medal of freedom.
1510
01:13:19,980 --> 01:13:23,830
Barely able to speak, John
Paul ii thanked president bush
1511
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:25,960
and asked him to send my regards
1512
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,083
to President Reagan and Mrs. Reagan.
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Reagan died the next day on June 5th.
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(Soft music)
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- I can put it no better
than Mrs. Thatcher
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in her eulogy to Ronald
Reagan which she said,
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we have one advantage
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that Ronald Reagan never had.
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We have his example.
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(Soft music)
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- [Peter] Less than a year
later in April, the pope died.
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(Soft music)
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- All of those lessons and teachings
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and homilies of John Paul ii,
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they really matters, his words matters,
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his uniqueness matters.
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I feel by heart that people
are really hungry of wisdom,
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of words, of presence, of gestures,
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of smile of John Paul ii.
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- They both symbolized,
they both represented,
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they both worked for this
single set of beliefs
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that greater freedom,
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greater acknowledgement of human dignity
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is really important.
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It turns out that their side won,
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at least as of the early 1990s,
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but it's an ongoing struggle.
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- [Peter] On June 27th, 2011,
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in a Thanksgiving mass
for blessed John Paul ii
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and for the late President Ronald Reagan,
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cardinal stanislaw dziwisz,
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who in 1981 held the wounded
pope in his arms said,
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"this world is a battlefield
of good and evil,
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"truth and falsehood.
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"Each of US faces a choice.
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"Today we recall two great men
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"who stood before this very choice,
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"and how their decision shaped
the world in which we live."
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- [Peter] It was a reminder
that the two leaders,
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overcoming fears and
doubts, made hard choices
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that reflected their deepest
convictions and beliefs.
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- But whether you're Christian or not,
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John Paul ii thought you
could understand the notion
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that there is divine purpose
at work in human affairs.
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The task of conscience is to determine
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what that divine purpose is,
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and then to live it out
irrespective of the cost.
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(Soft music)
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- I think of Walt
Whitman's poem, you know,
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and the lines about the
powerful play goes on,
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and you might contribute a verse.
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And so you think of these two figures
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and the powerful verse
they contributed was
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to speak this truth and then actively
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to engage in the struggle.
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And that's no small thing.
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- [Peter] Shakespeare would conclude
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all the world's a stage
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and all the men and women merely players.
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They have their exits and their entrances
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and one man in his time plays many parts.
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- [Man] In the famous words
of pope Saint John Paul ii,
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"a coincidence is what a believer
calls divine Providence."
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- [Peter] O me, o life?
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That you are here - that
life exists and identity,
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that the powerful play goes on,
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and you may contribute a verse.
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Walt Whitman, o me! O life!
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(Soft music)
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(Contemporary music)
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