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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:02,477 --> 00:00:04,910 - [Narrator] In the designs of Providence 3 00:00:04,910 --> 00:00:07,580 there are no mere coincidences. 4 00:00:07,580 --> 00:00:09,200 And we should start from this. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,963 It was a perfect timing, perfect moment, perfect situation. 7 00:00:15,752 --> 00:00:18,835 (Contemporary music) 8 00:00:21,150 --> 00:00:23,180 - [Peter] All the world's a stage, 9 00:00:23,180 --> 00:00:26,110 and had Shakespeare lived in the late 20th century, 10 00:00:26,110 --> 00:00:27,880 he would have been intrigued by two men 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,160 who starred on the grandest stage of all. 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,643 - Both men began their careers as actors. 13 00:00:34,700 --> 00:00:37,610 Both understand that a good script 14 00:00:37,610 --> 00:00:40,120 contains three essential elements: 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,483 Introduction, conflict and resolution. 16 00:00:45,890 --> 00:00:49,443 - They were working in the realm of the human spirit. 17 00:00:51,075 --> 00:00:53,475 - [Peter] The actors were a president and a pope 18 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:56,543 who starred in a real life drama. 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,340 - Political office is a kind of dramatic role. 20 00:01:02,340 --> 00:01:04,670 Ronald Reagan knew this very, he'd been an actor. 21 00:01:04,670 --> 00:01:07,330 And what he understood was to be a successful president, 22 00:01:07,330 --> 00:01:09,710 you have to know how to perform the presidency. 23 00:01:09,710 --> 00:01:11,570 - When you go to the Vatican, of course, 24 00:01:11,570 --> 00:01:15,100 St. Peter's and all that was built, it's a stage set. 25 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:17,570 It's built for processions and for speeches 26 00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:19,890 and for public displays, 27 00:01:19,890 --> 00:01:22,410 and boy, did he know how to inhabit that space. 28 00:01:22,410 --> 00:01:24,730 - You know, you're playing to the crowd. 29 00:01:24,730 --> 00:01:28,210 Politics is the biggest performance stage of all. 30 00:01:28,210 --> 00:01:31,457 - [Monika] They kind of knew about the drama of the world, 31 00:01:31,457 --> 00:01:35,540 and the drama of the theater, and how to use it. 32 00:01:35,540 --> 00:01:37,370 - [Peter] John Paul ii and Ronald Reagan, 33 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:39,440 two unlikely characters, 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,110 made their final appearances early in the 21st century, 35 00:01:43,110 --> 00:01:46,420 yet the roles they played lived on in our memory. 36 00:01:46,420 --> 00:01:49,550 - They saw themselves as actors on the world stage 37 00:01:49,550 --> 00:01:54,040 affecting a change, bringing freedom to people. 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,240 - That in my very carriage, in my very expression, 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,290 in the acts that I perform that always have didactic meaning 40 00:02:01,290 --> 00:02:03,150 and portray something. 41 00:02:03,150 --> 00:02:06,330 - [Man] They want to take what is on the stage 42 00:02:06,330 --> 00:02:08,580 and make it real for the people in the world. 43 00:02:09,860 --> 00:02:12,700 - [Peter] But was it a design of their own making 44 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:16,902 or was it the work of a divine plan? 45 00:02:16,902 --> 00:02:19,985 (Contemporary music) 46 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:27,610 - [Man] There was love, there was expectation of a miracle, 47 00:02:27,610 --> 00:02:29,290 and a miracle came. 48 00:02:29,290 --> 00:02:31,530 (Crowd cheers) 49 00:02:31,530 --> 00:02:35,010 - [Peter] And for nine days rapturous crowds cheered 50 00:02:35,010 --> 00:02:37,883 and church bells rang as he traveled the country. 51 00:02:39,207 --> 00:02:42,123 - [Man] And what I saw was a million strong crowd. 52 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:47,600 The best behaved, the best self-policed 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,040 mass of human beings I have ever encountered. 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,550 - [Peter] The pent up religious feelings 55 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:57,130 of a people living for decades 56 00:02:57,130 --> 00:03:01,260 under the rule of a repressive atheist regime exploded. 57 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:03,300 The church bells were tolling the beginning 58 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:05,357 of the end of the Soviet empire. 59 00:03:05,357 --> 00:03:07,720 (Church bells tolling) 60 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,770 - The most important impact that the pope had 61 00:03:10,770 --> 00:03:13,543 when he first came to Poland in 1979 62 00:03:13,543 --> 00:03:17,970 was the fact that he brought so many people together. 63 00:03:17,970 --> 00:03:19,480 Because one of the things that communism did 64 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,130 was it isolated people. 65 00:03:21,130 --> 00:03:23,770 - Dictatorships always have to create in you 66 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:25,550 the fear that you're alone, 67 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:27,310 no one will come to your assistance, 68 00:03:27,310 --> 00:03:29,520 but that cannot be the case 69 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,600 if you have John Paul ii addressing huge crowds. 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,060 - [Anne] Suddenly, there were hundreds of thousands, 71 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:37,500 if not millions of people, 72 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:39,890 and suddenly, everybody saw one another. 73 00:03:39,890 --> 00:03:42,610 - [John] People know that they're not alone. 74 00:03:42,610 --> 00:03:46,510 - [Man] The pope came and emboldened the freedom fighter 75 00:03:46,510 --> 00:03:51,510 by preaching love, human dignity, and strength. 76 00:03:52,108 --> 00:03:55,191 (Contemporary music) 77 00:03:57,490 --> 00:04:00,800 - [Peter] A continent away, another man took notice. 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Ronald Reagan watched footage of the pope's visit. 79 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,340 With him was foreign policy expert Richard v. Allen 80 00:04:08,340 --> 00:04:10,040 who later became President Reagan's 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,943 national security advisor. 82 00:04:13,130 --> 00:04:15,020 - They were talking foreign policy 83 00:04:15,020 --> 00:04:17,950 all day at Reagan's home in California, 84 00:04:17,950 --> 00:04:20,890 and at one point, they decided to turn on the evening news, 85 00:04:20,890 --> 00:04:24,400 and they saw footage of John Paul ii's visit to Poland. 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,850 - [Peter] Allen reported that Reagan 87 00:04:25,850 --> 00:04:29,940 was astounded by the crowd size, and was deeply moved 88 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:32,780 by the unexpected outpouring of emotion. 89 00:04:32,780 --> 00:04:35,033 - I saw a tear in rr's eye. 90 00:04:37,368 --> 00:04:40,210 It was a really interesting moment for me. 91 00:04:40,210 --> 00:04:41,750 - [Peter] Reagan leaned forward, 92 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:44,380 peered into the TV screen-- 93 00:04:44,380 --> 00:04:47,130 - then he said dick, that's it, that's it, that's it, 94 00:04:47,130 --> 00:04:49,230 the pope is the key, the pope is the key, 95 00:04:49,230 --> 00:04:50,700 the pope is the key. 96 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:52,270 - [Peter] He immediately wanted to reach out 97 00:04:52,270 --> 00:04:56,460 to the new pope and the Vatican, and make them an ally. 98 00:04:56,460 --> 00:04:58,220 - He was a beacon of light, 99 00:04:58,220 --> 00:05:02,030 that he was somebody who has a positive force 100 00:05:02,030 --> 00:05:05,510 operating in a zone of darkness. 101 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:07,600 - [Peter] Reagan knew Poland would be the linchpin 102 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,670 in the dissolution of Russia. 103 00:05:09,670 --> 00:05:12,050 - We've got to find a way to get elected, 104 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:14,430 and we've got to reach out to this new Polish pope 105 00:05:14,430 --> 00:05:17,100 and Vatican and make them an ally. 106 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:19,210 - Reagan, for the first time in history, 107 00:05:19,210 --> 00:05:20,860 an American president is sharing 108 00:05:20,860 --> 00:05:25,150 classified CIA documents with the pope. 109 00:05:25,150 --> 00:05:28,450 Reagan appoints an envoy to the Vatican, 110 00:05:28,450 --> 00:05:29,830 the first time in American history, 111 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:32,430 and later an ambassador to the Vatican, 112 00:05:32,430 --> 00:05:34,670 again first time in American history. 113 00:05:34,670 --> 00:05:38,210 He's making an ally of pope John Paul ii. 114 00:05:38,210 --> 00:05:39,300 - [Peter] Few others understood 115 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:40,640 that the pope's visit was key 116 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,470 to the first act in a groundbreaking play. 117 00:05:43,470 --> 00:05:44,960 The New York times, for instance, 118 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,997 said in a June 5th, 1979 editorial 119 00:05:48,997 --> 00:05:51,707 "as much as the visit of pope John Paul ii 120 00:05:51,707 --> 00:05:54,287 "to Poland must reinvigorate and re-inspire 121 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:56,817 "the Roman catholic church in Poland, 122 00:05:56,817 --> 00:05:58,647 "it does not threaten the political order 123 00:05:58,647 --> 00:06:01,840 "of the nation or of Eastern Europe." 124 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:02,780 - So they're missing the truth, 125 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,210 they're missing the overwhelming evidence 126 00:06:05,210 --> 00:06:08,030 of the Soviet state versus American freedom. 127 00:06:08,030 --> 00:06:09,800 - The Soviets are beside themselves. 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,200 I mean they know that this is a game-changer. 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,060 This is the linchpin that could take down 130 00:06:14,060 --> 00:06:15,660 the whole communist block. 131 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:20,660 So one day, November 13th, 1979, nine of them get together, 132 00:06:21,340 --> 00:06:23,480 members of Soviet central committee. 133 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,390 One of them, by the way, is a young member 134 00:06:25,390 --> 00:06:28,000 of the central committee named mikhail gorbachev, 135 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,510 and they got together and they issued this chilling edict 136 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:34,400 where they called for additional measures 137 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,490 beyond discreditation and disinformation 138 00:06:37,490 --> 00:06:39,383 to attack this new pope. 139 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,090 - [Peter] The pope and the president 140 00:06:42,090 --> 00:06:46,260 would not meet face-to-face until June 1982 at the Vatican 141 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:47,880 when they confided in one another 142 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,560 what they had only thought in private. 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Their greatest roles still awaiting. 144 00:06:53,576 --> 00:06:56,326 (Dramatic music) 145 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:01,040 - [Man] Ronald Reagan had this very strong sense 146 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,720 of divine Providence. 147 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,720 - Ronald Reagan would have gotten it from his mother. 148 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,260 He was very quick to say that that view of the world 149 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:09,300 that everything is in god's hands, 150 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:11,480 and obviously, John Paul ii got it 151 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,920 from his deep catholic faith. 152 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,570 - [Man] Ronnie, everything that happens in your life, 153 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:18,820 good or bad, and including the bad things, 154 00:07:18,820 --> 00:07:22,033 happen according to a divine plan by a loving god. 155 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,970 - [Peter] Reagan was born in 1911 156 00:07:24,970 --> 00:07:27,350 to nelle and Jack Reagan. 157 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:30,630 By all accounts, nelle was an earthly Saint, 158 00:07:30,630 --> 00:07:32,340 a faith leader in the household. 159 00:07:32,340 --> 00:07:35,290 - I think that his mother's faith 160 00:07:35,290 --> 00:07:38,950 and her upbringing of her children, 161 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:41,900 especially in conditions of extreme duress 162 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:45,260 with the drinking problem his father had. 163 00:07:45,260 --> 00:07:47,180 - [Peter] He was Jack Reagan, 164 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:50,123 a shoe salesman who chased rainbows and alcohol. 165 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:55,200 - Reagan's childhood was difficult for a young boy. 166 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,170 Reagan did sort of build this wall around himself 167 00:07:58,170 --> 00:08:01,030 because Jack Reagan, who one day, 168 00:08:01,030 --> 00:08:03,840 was the best buddy his son, Dutch, ever had, 169 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,110 the next day he was drunk, he was unreliable. 170 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:08,940 Reagan couldn't count on him. 171 00:08:08,940 --> 00:08:10,530 - [Peter] An enduring memory for Reagan 172 00:08:10,530 --> 00:08:12,260 was coming home at age 11 173 00:08:12,260 --> 00:08:15,040 to find his father passed out on the front porch, 174 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,020 exposed and freezing in the snow. 175 00:08:18,020 --> 00:08:21,030 - And this 11 year old kid has this moment 176 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:24,230 when he has to decide well, what do I do? 177 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:27,130 - [Peter] Jack's hair was soaked with melted snow, 178 00:08:27,130 --> 00:08:30,970 matted unevenly against the side of his reddened face. 179 00:08:30,970 --> 00:08:33,530 - And apparently, he thought 180 00:08:33,530 --> 00:08:37,603 well, maybe I'll just walk on by and ignore my dad here. 181 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:41,350 The very fact that an 11 year old kid 182 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:44,640 could think for a minute my life might be better 183 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,890 if my father were dead. 184 00:08:46,890 --> 00:08:48,855 I mean that's a pretty heavy thing. 185 00:08:48,855 --> 00:08:51,272 (Soft music) 186 00:08:53,140 --> 00:08:55,060 - [Peter] Four months later after the incident, 187 00:08:55,060 --> 00:08:57,520 Reagan asked to be baptized. 188 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,350 He started life anew as a child of god, 189 00:09:00,350 --> 00:09:03,383 the son of an infinitely more reliable father. 190 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:08,350 Karol jozef wojtyla was was born in 1920. 191 00:09:08,350 --> 00:09:10,500 His mother, Emilia, died when he was eight. 192 00:09:12,340 --> 00:09:15,130 Although he didn't hold many clear memories of her, 193 00:09:15,130 --> 00:09:19,060 he kept his parents' wedding portrait by his bed always. 194 00:09:19,060 --> 00:09:21,800 His father, karol senior, a military man, 195 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,813 became his spiritual guide. 196 00:09:24,750 --> 00:09:27,530 He would take his son to shrines to the virgin Mary 197 00:09:27,530 --> 00:09:30,793 saying this now is your mother. 198 00:09:32,558 --> 00:09:34,820 (Soft music) 199 00:09:34,820 --> 00:09:37,800 As young men, karol wojtyla and Ronald Reagan 200 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,800 shared a common mission: To protect, even save others. 201 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,030 Reagan became a lifeguard at 15 202 00:09:45,030 --> 00:09:47,690 on rock river in Dixon, Illinois, 203 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:49,260 and in the seven years that follow, 204 00:09:49,260 --> 00:09:52,410 he saved the lives of 77 people. 205 00:09:52,410 --> 00:09:54,830 - Reagan, you know, you are a good-looking young guy, 206 00:09:54,830 --> 00:09:56,810 and certainly, those pretty girls 207 00:09:56,810 --> 00:09:58,320 who were thrashing around in the water, 208 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,430 they probably weren't gonna die. 209 00:10:00,430 --> 00:10:02,030 He didn't see the humor in that. 210 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,930 - [Peter] Wojtyla already had established himself 211 00:10:06,930 --> 00:10:09,610 as a well-respected actor/playwright. 212 00:10:09,610 --> 00:10:12,410 He acted in plays with themes of Polish pride 213 00:10:12,410 --> 00:10:14,400 to defy the authorities. 214 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,340 - And he and a few friends 215 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:17,757 formed this famous rhapsodic theater where they, 216 00:10:17,757 --> 00:10:22,230 you know, behind shuttered windows and locked doors, 217 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:26,360 they recited the great poetry and drama 218 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,200 of Polish literature. 219 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,650 - Underground theater help him 220 00:10:30,650 --> 00:10:33,130 to go through the most important words 221 00:10:33,130 --> 00:10:35,540 and problems and experiences 222 00:10:35,540 --> 00:10:40,283 to reach people, their hearts, and confront the evil. 223 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:44,520 - [Peter] It was not until 1941 224 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,830 that he would enter the seminary, 225 00:10:46,830 --> 00:10:49,810 a secret underground seminary. 226 00:10:49,810 --> 00:10:52,320 - He's coming of age at one of the worst moments 227 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,480 of the 20th century. 228 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,830 - [Peter] Wojtyla witnessed first time the Nazi terror, 229 00:10:57,830 --> 00:11:00,550 the liquidation of Poland's Jewish population 230 00:11:00,550 --> 00:11:04,270 as tens of thousands were marched off to Auschwitz. 231 00:11:04,270 --> 00:11:06,290 He watched as many of his friends 232 00:11:06,290 --> 00:11:10,792 as well as defiant priests were sent to the same fate. 233 00:11:10,792 --> 00:11:13,880 (Solemn music) 234 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,880 - If a German soldier or an ss guy or a gestapo guy 235 00:11:19,210 --> 00:11:22,170 doesn't like the way you looked at him in the street, 236 00:11:22,170 --> 00:11:25,980 he can shoot you down and nothing will happen to him. 237 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:28,430 - [Peter] Poland would lose 20% of its population 238 00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:32,790 in world war ii, the highest percentage of any country. 239 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:35,360 A personal tragedy added to the sorrow. 240 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,880 On February 18th, 1941, 241 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,293 wojtyla's father died of a heart attack. 242 00:11:43,060 --> 00:11:44,310 - For the rest of his life, 243 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:47,930 every day would recite to himself a prayer 244 00:11:47,930 --> 00:11:51,830 that his father had written for him when he was a child. 245 00:11:51,830 --> 00:11:54,367 The bereaved son told friends, 246 00:11:54,367 --> 00:11:56,757 "I am alone at 20 years old, 247 00:11:56,757 --> 00:11:59,507 "I have already lost all the people I've loved." 248 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:02,130 At nearly the same moment, 249 00:12:02,130 --> 00:12:04,170 thousands of miles away, 250 00:12:04,170 --> 00:12:06,820 Reagan's father who had finally redeemed his life 251 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:09,950 and at a job answering his son's fan mail, 252 00:12:09,950 --> 00:12:12,710 also succumbed to heart failure. 253 00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:15,340 Reagan said he felt desolate and empty, 254 00:12:15,340 --> 00:12:18,387 but he assured his mother with his well-known optimism, 255 00:12:18,387 --> 00:12:22,767 "Jack is okay and where he is he's very happy." 256 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:28,640 By war's end, it was clear to both Reagan and wojtyla 257 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,080 that Russia, one of the allies who helped defeat Hitler 258 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,140 was about to unleash new atrocities 259 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:36,323 on a depleted, helpless Eastern Europe. 260 00:12:38,230 --> 00:12:40,930 The Soviets fought not only against western values 261 00:12:40,930 --> 00:12:44,840 of freedom and democracy, but also religion. 262 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,960 With that battle came the spiritual oppression 263 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,123 of millions of souls in Eastern Europe. 264 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:53,960 From 1947 through 1959, 265 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,120 Reagan starring role was that of president 266 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,450 of the screen actors guild. 267 00:12:58,450 --> 00:13:01,290 - He was responsible for the policy and position 268 00:13:01,290 --> 00:13:03,560 of the actors regarding the big issues of the time, 269 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:05,700 including the possibility that communism 270 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:07,390 might be infiltrating Hollywood. 271 00:13:07,390 --> 00:13:11,010 To Reagan, there was sort of a hard reality to this 272 00:13:11,010 --> 00:13:14,050 because Reagan was involved in a very controversial strike 273 00:13:14,050 --> 00:13:16,380 in which he was personally threatened. 274 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:19,290 - [Peter] When he attempted to break a picket line, 275 00:13:19,290 --> 00:13:22,110 his bus was pelted with rocks 276 00:13:22,110 --> 00:13:24,060 violently shattering the glass windows. 277 00:13:25,090 --> 00:13:27,410 He was warned that acid would be splashed 278 00:13:27,410 --> 00:13:29,540 in his movie star face. 279 00:13:29,540 --> 00:13:30,620 There were so many threats 280 00:13:30,620 --> 00:13:32,870 that he began sleeping with a Smith & Wesson. 281 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,830 - And the strike was instigated 282 00:13:36,830 --> 00:13:40,810 by communists within this new upstart union. 283 00:13:40,810 --> 00:13:44,310 And so Reagan felt it in his responsibility 284 00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:47,030 as basically one of the key players in Hollywood 285 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:49,150 to keep the movie industry going, 286 00:13:49,150 --> 00:13:52,700 but increasingly, Reagan felt it in the form 287 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:55,070 of a challenge to the United States. 288 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:56,110 - [Peter] Throughout the 50s, 289 00:13:56,110 --> 00:13:58,870 as host of television's ge theater, 290 00:13:58,870 --> 00:14:01,500 Reagan had a new stage to work from, 291 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:04,283 and the script would become increasingly political. 292 00:14:05,810 --> 00:14:09,170 - As Reagan tasted politics, 293 00:14:09,170 --> 00:14:11,790 and he realized, you know, there's something out there, 294 00:14:11,790 --> 00:14:14,530 Reagan realized that he was smart, 295 00:14:14,530 --> 00:14:17,050 he realized that he could be good at politics. 296 00:14:17,050 --> 00:14:19,500 There was a taste of politics in his mouth, 297 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:22,300 and at this point, I think he begins thinking beyond 298 00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:25,630 what's my next career, what's my next role? 299 00:14:25,630 --> 00:14:27,780 - [Peter] By 1964, he had changed 300 00:14:27,780 --> 00:14:29,820 from democrat to republican, 301 00:14:29,820 --> 00:14:32,238 and began acting in the political arena. 302 00:14:32,238 --> 00:14:35,320 While campaigning for Barry goldwater, 303 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,610 he delivered what would become known as 304 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:42,470 the a time for choosing speech, or more simply the speech. 305 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,300 - You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. 306 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:48,130 We'll preserve for our children 307 00:14:48,130 --> 00:14:50,610 this the last best hope of man on earth 308 00:14:50,610 --> 00:14:52,560 or will sentence them to take the last step 309 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,480 into a thousand years of darkness. 310 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,550 - So he's saying this transcends partisan politics, 311 00:14:58,550 --> 00:15:02,550 but we must preserve, we must honor, we must know, 312 00:15:02,550 --> 00:15:05,960 and we must live up to the principles 313 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,960 that are a part of that vision of a shining city on a hill. 314 00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:14,730 - [Peter] By 1979 after eight years as governor, 315 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:17,740 Reagan through his rousing broadcasts and speeches, 316 00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:21,240 had amassed a solid anticommunist following. 317 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,740 In a radio broadcast, Reagan noted 318 00:15:23,740 --> 00:15:26,500 that Stalin had once mockingly asked 319 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:30,180 how many divisions does the pope have? 320 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:34,150 Reagan responded well, that question has been answered 321 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:35,950 when the people of Poland came forth 322 00:15:35,950 --> 00:15:38,360 in unbelievable numbers. 323 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,940 Now fear was giving way to faith. 324 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:44,320 - Both of them achieved these positions of power 325 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,780 toward the last quarter of their lives, 326 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:48,620 the last fifth of their lives. 327 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:52,690 Is that there are no more political battles to win. 328 00:15:52,690 --> 00:15:54,290 Now it's just about the mission. 329 00:15:55,428 --> 00:15:58,428 (Suspenseful music) 330 00:16:04,110 --> 00:16:07,890 - [Peter] St. Peter's square, may 13th, 1981, 331 00:16:07,890 --> 00:16:10,293 just past five o'clock in the afternoon. 332 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,880 John Paul ii rides in a small open-air vehicle 333 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,667 dubbed the popemobile. 334 00:16:17,667 --> 00:16:19,820 (Crowd cheers) 335 00:16:19,820 --> 00:16:21,390 He greets a crowd of thousands 336 00:16:21,390 --> 00:16:23,720 who have come to the Vatican to cheer. 337 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,290 One man, later identified as a Turkish national, 338 00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:30,992 lifts a pistol and aims it an the pontiff. 339 00:16:30,992 --> 00:16:33,940 (Gun shot) 340 00:16:33,940 --> 00:16:37,550 Six weeks earlier on may 30th, 1981, 341 00:16:37,550 --> 00:16:40,730 another assassination attempt had taken place. 342 00:16:40,730 --> 00:16:43,580 In this scene, it was president Reagan in the crosshairs. 343 00:16:45,130 --> 00:16:46,730 - So if there's a way to look at all this 344 00:16:46,730 --> 00:16:49,320 in the divine scheme of things, the divine plan, 345 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,060 think about six weeks in 1981, 346 00:16:52,060 --> 00:16:55,920 march 30th, 1981 to may 13th, 1981. 347 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,550 March 30th, 1981 was the day that Ronald Reagan was shot 348 00:16:59,550 --> 00:17:02,514 outside the Washington Hilton in Washington, DC. 349 00:17:02,514 --> 00:17:04,764 (Gun shot) 350 00:17:06,850 --> 00:17:09,610 - The kremlin feared no other man 351 00:17:09,610 --> 00:17:12,010 in the 1970s and 1980s in the west 352 00:17:12,010 --> 00:17:13,800 like they feared Ronald Reagan. 353 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,440 The Soviets hated Ronald Reagan. 354 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,360 - Both of these men shared a conviction 355 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:21,983 that communism in Europe could be defeated, 356 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,400 and could be defeated without massive violence. 357 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,483 (Contemporary music) 358 00:17:30,610 --> 00:17:33,160 - [Peter] From the moment he became John Paul ii, 359 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,970 forces were at work within Russia 360 00:17:34,970 --> 00:17:37,690 to vanquish this charismatic pope. 361 00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:39,200 Like Reagan, he had the ability 362 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,860 to turn complex information 363 00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:45,220 into simple understandable words and to deliver these words 364 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:47,963 with an actors skill that could move nations. 365 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:53,890 In 1984, prime minister Margaret Thatcher, 366 00:17:53,890 --> 00:17:57,230 who played an important role in the cold war drama, 367 00:17:57,230 --> 00:17:58,774 also survived a bombing. 368 00:17:58,774 --> 00:18:01,348 (Bomb blast) 369 00:18:01,348 --> 00:18:03,803 Her reaction, though, differed in tone. 370 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:08,210 - She felt it would be vainglorious 371 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:10,670 to think of herself as having be protected 372 00:18:10,670 --> 00:18:13,490 from the assassination attempt on her by god. 373 00:18:13,490 --> 00:18:16,550 The idea that god would intervene directly for her, 374 00:18:16,550 --> 00:18:19,110 she's thought well, that's boasting, really. 375 00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:20,960 - I think part of her religion factored into it, 376 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,490 because methodism doesn't reject 377 00:18:23,490 --> 00:18:24,740 that god directs all things, 378 00:18:24,740 --> 00:18:28,680 but it believes the greater self-determination of man 379 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,993 than, say, catholics do. 380 00:18:30,868 --> 00:18:33,285 (Soft music) 381 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,830 - [Peter] In the weeks before the assassination attempt, 382 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:40,100 the communist press was full of vitriol 383 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:41,730 directed at the pontiff. 384 00:18:41,730 --> 00:18:44,750 They cast him in the role of Nazi remnant. 385 00:18:44,750 --> 00:18:48,080 Cunning and dangerous ideological enemy. 386 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,290 Malicious, lowly, toady of American militarists, 387 00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:54,270 seeking to undermine communism 388 00:18:54,270 --> 00:18:56,323 with his new boss in the white house. 389 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,970 - So on may 13th, 1881, the feast day of our lady of Fatima, 390 00:19:00,970 --> 00:19:04,150 John Paul ii is riding through St. Peter's square 391 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:08,040 in his white fiat popemobile, and the top is down, 392 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,680 he's driving around with an open roof, 393 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,520 and as he's driving by, this shooter, 394 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,780 this assigned shooter, this assassin, 395 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:19,640 he has his nine millimeter Browning semi-automatic weapon, 396 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,750 and as the pope gets closer, and closer, and closer, 397 00:19:22,750 --> 00:19:25,240 finally, mehmet Ali agca, 398 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,633 lifts that gun up in the air and fires 399 00:19:27,633 --> 00:19:28,466 (gun shot) 400 00:19:28,466 --> 00:19:29,570 And he hit the pope twice. 401 00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:32,430 Hit him once in the hand, and once in the stomach. 402 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:34,550 He immediately went down, 403 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:37,070 collapsed into the arms of his aides, 404 00:19:37,070 --> 00:19:39,380 father dziwisz and another aide, 405 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:43,200 said it's very painful, it hurts, I was hit in the stomach. 406 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,420 They immediately got him in an ambulance, 407 00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:47,720 and rushed him off to gemelli clinic, 408 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,670 and he got there and they found out 409 00:19:49,670 --> 00:19:53,130 that he was bleeding very, very severely. 410 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:54,580 - [Peter] As for Ronald Reagan, 411 00:19:54,580 --> 00:19:56,720 he reacted to the shooting of the pope 412 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,180 with a diary entry that day: 413 00:19:59,180 --> 00:20:02,053 Sent a message to the Vatican and prayed. 414 00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:05,450 Could it have been mere coincidence 415 00:20:05,450 --> 00:20:07,070 that an attempt on Reagan's life 416 00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:09,280 had happened not long before? 417 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,488 The timing was coincidental 418 00:20:11,488 --> 00:20:12,321 (gun shot) 419 00:20:12,321 --> 00:20:15,380 (Contemporary music) 420 00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:16,380 As were the motives. 421 00:20:17,230 --> 00:20:20,560 The pope's assailant was a political hired gun. 422 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Reagan's would-be assassin was a disturbed young man 423 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,760 whose motive was to impress the movie star Jodie foster. 424 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,870 It was a random act of violence, 425 00:20:29,870 --> 00:20:32,133 not part of any plot or conspiracy. 426 00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:36,370 But did these events fit into a heavenly scheme? 427 00:20:36,370 --> 00:20:38,070 Could such indiscretion turn out 428 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:39,933 to be part of a divine plan? 429 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:43,530 Even if it wasn't, Reagan believed 430 00:20:43,530 --> 00:20:45,713 that all things happened for a reason. 431 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,100 - Reagan saw that he and John Paul 432 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,650 were basically reading from the same book. 433 00:20:51,650 --> 00:20:55,020 - [Man] The storyline of both the pope and Reagan 434 00:20:55,020 --> 00:20:58,260 coincided very, very nicely together. 435 00:20:58,260 --> 00:21:00,750 - Bits and pieces are making sense to US, 436 00:21:00,750 --> 00:21:03,100 but how precisely it plays out? 437 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:04,777 I don't know, and that's part of the fun of it, 438 00:21:04,777 --> 00:21:06,550 that's part of the drama 439 00:21:06,550 --> 00:21:08,700 'cause I'm living it, not reading it. 440 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:11,800 - [Peter] But the two events have in common was clear, 441 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,990 the true condition of both men 442 00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:15,653 was down played to the public. 443 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:20,320 The official word in Washington 444 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,030 was that Reagan was in stable condition. 445 00:21:23,030 --> 00:21:27,740 - I decided to sneak away for the university club 446 00:21:27,740 --> 00:21:30,350 for a 40 minute swim, and get back to the office 447 00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:31,740 and have a sandwich. 448 00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:35,830 And so my driver pulled me out of the pool by my hair, 449 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:37,870 and said we've got to get back to the white house, 450 00:21:37,870 --> 00:21:39,850 something terrible has happened. 451 00:21:39,850 --> 00:21:43,840 - The surprise was that the president himself had been shot. 452 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,990 He very nearly bled to death. 453 00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:47,700 He probably should have bled to death. 454 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:48,740 It was very, very close. 455 00:21:48,740 --> 00:21:51,970 If that bullet was even a few centimeters over 456 00:21:51,970 --> 00:21:54,760 closer to his heart, he wouldn't have gotten out of the car, 457 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,270 he would have died on the way 458 00:21:56,270 --> 00:21:58,590 to George Washington university hospital. 459 00:21:58,590 --> 00:22:00,233 - When it became clear 460 00:22:00,233 --> 00:22:03,340 that Reagan had been taken to the emergency room, 461 00:22:03,340 --> 00:22:06,530 and that he passed out walking into the hospital, 462 00:22:06,530 --> 00:22:08,460 and that he was in the operating room, 463 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:11,223 then Americans began to get nervous. 464 00:22:12,090 --> 00:22:13,470 - [Peter] There are no alert measures 465 00:22:13,470 --> 00:22:17,090 that are necessary at this time or contemplated. 466 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:19,460 In truth, both men were closer to death 467 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:21,303 than was acknowledged at a time. 468 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,650 John Paul ii underwent a five-hour operation, 469 00:22:26,650 --> 00:22:28,793 and lost 60% of his blood. 470 00:22:32,504 --> 00:22:35,171 (Crowd screams) 471 00:22:41,340 --> 00:22:43,180 - John Paul would have read it 472 00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:45,610 as he read everything else, as part of the divine plan, 473 00:22:45,610 --> 00:22:47,940 and he would have seen it according to the template 474 00:22:47,940 --> 00:22:50,020 of the cross and resurrection of Jesus, 475 00:22:50,020 --> 00:22:51,390 so he would've read it that way. 476 00:22:51,390 --> 00:22:54,680 Did it give him a heightened sense of his mission 477 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,230 to struggle against what he saw, quite correctly, 478 00:22:57,230 --> 00:22:59,240 as the supreme evil in the world of his time? 479 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,043 I say yes, absolutely. 480 00:23:02,020 --> 00:23:04,338 And that again brings him close to Ronald Reagan. 481 00:23:04,338 --> 00:23:06,870 (Soft music) 482 00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:09,143 - [Peter] Reagan lost half of his blood. 483 00:23:10,130 --> 00:23:12,670 On that harrowing day in Washington, 484 00:23:12,670 --> 00:23:16,650 vice president George hw bush was on an airplane 485 00:23:16,650 --> 00:23:20,000 flying back to Washington, DC from Texas. 486 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,980 For a brief time, with the bleeding president 487 00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:26,350 on the operating table, confusion gripped the white house. 488 00:23:26,350 --> 00:23:28,040 - [Richard] And one of the young women 489 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,330 working in the press office 490 00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:32,060 said they want to know who's running the government, 491 00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:34,150 and al said oh well, I'll take care of it. 492 00:23:34,150 --> 00:23:36,200 I said wait, wait. 493 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,374 - [Alexander] As of right now, 494 00:23:37,374 --> 00:23:41,402 I am in control here in the white house. 495 00:23:41,402 --> 00:23:44,090 - [Richard] And he lunged up behind the podium, 496 00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:45,363 and I stood next to him. 497 00:23:46,290 --> 00:23:48,250 - [Alexander] Constitutionally, gentlemen, 498 00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:49,740 you have the president-- 499 00:23:49,740 --> 00:23:53,120 - the doctors didn't tell Reagan how close he was to dying 500 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:55,120 and so okay, I'm awake, I'm alive, 501 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,250 I've got this audience around me, I can tell a joke, 502 00:23:57,250 --> 00:24:00,700 and he's joking as he goes into the operating room 503 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:04,050 hoping that all the doctors there are Republicans, 504 00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:05,400 and that's when the head surgeon says 505 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,963 well, today Mr. President, we are all Republicans. 506 00:24:08,970 --> 00:24:11,510 Reagan had sufficient self-possession 507 00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:15,110 to realize okay, if I can convey 508 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:17,390 that I've still got my sense of humor, 509 00:24:17,390 --> 00:24:20,340 I've got my wits about me, that will have a calming effect. 510 00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:26,390 - And Reagan would later say he would call John hinckley 511 00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:28,340 this mixed up young man, 512 00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:31,210 and he said isn't that the meaning of the lost sheep? 513 00:24:31,210 --> 00:24:34,000 We are all god's children, we are all lost sheep, 514 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,450 and Reagan said I immediately prayed for him 515 00:24:36,450 --> 00:24:38,949 to find his way back to the fold. 516 00:24:38,949 --> 00:24:41,366 (Soft music) 517 00:24:44,590 --> 00:24:47,420 - And one of the first things he wrote in his diaries 518 00:24:47,420 --> 00:24:50,890 when he woke up from his surgery 519 00:24:50,890 --> 00:24:53,300 is I'm going to dedicate my life to peace. 520 00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:56,640 I'm going to work hard to become a, 521 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,270 make the world a better and safer place. 522 00:24:59,270 --> 00:25:02,870 Hence his determination to rid whole classes 523 00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:06,850 of nuclear armaments to put a big thaw 524 00:25:06,850 --> 00:25:10,217 in the us/soviet cold war. 525 00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:11,980 (Soft music) 526 00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:15,230 - John Paul ii came away from that ordeal 527 00:25:15,230 --> 00:25:16,390 just like Ronald Reagan 528 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:18,610 came away from his shooting, thinking-- 529 00:25:18,610 --> 00:25:21,450 - what god has in store for them now, 530 00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:25,500 that he obviously was sparing them for a higher purpose. 531 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:28,200 - And the fact that they both saw it, 532 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,770 they both understood that. 533 00:25:29,770 --> 00:25:31,550 I don't think you'll understand either one of them, 534 00:25:31,550 --> 00:25:32,950 without understanding that. 535 00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:34,960 - Both Reagan and John Paul ii 536 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,070 shared the belief of optimism. 537 00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:40,650 - [Peter] After their ordeals, 538 00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:44,480 both men made strong recoveries and returned to work. 539 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,770 Reagan, a vibrant 70 year old, was back in the oval office, 540 00:25:48,770 --> 00:25:51,950 and John Paul ii return to the Vatican. 541 00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:54,710 - I have this power, I have this ability, 542 00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:58,400 I have these resources to assemble 543 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,520 to achieve what it is I've made it my life's goal to do 544 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,073 which is to defeat Soviet communism. 545 00:26:04,073 --> 00:26:07,156 (Contemporary music) 546 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,560 - Ronald Reagan for his first public speech 547 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,630 after the shooting of John Paul ii 548 00:26:21,630 --> 00:26:24,070 just happens to be a commencement address 549 00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:27,510 that have been previously scheduled weeks in advance 550 00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:32,110 of at all places, america's most famous catholic university, 551 00:26:32,110 --> 00:26:33,893 notre dame university. 552 00:26:33,893 --> 00:26:37,400 (Audience cheers) 553 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,750 - [Peter] Reagan made a pivotal speech 554 00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:41,070 at the university of notre dame, 555 00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:42,783 announcing his grand mission. 556 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,110 He spoke with his new catholic partner in mind. 557 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:50,220 In the speech Reagan quoted John Paul ii. 558 00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:52,480 - Certain economic theories 559 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,620 that use the rhetoric of class struggle 560 00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:58,420 to justify injustice. 561 00:26:58,420 --> 00:27:01,340 He said in the name of an alleged justice, 562 00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:03,700 the neighbor is sometimes destroyed, killed, 563 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:05,200 or deprived of Liberty 564 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,230 or stripped the fundamental human rights. 565 00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:11,100 - [Peter] Reagan continued with his own observations. 566 00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,370 - The years ahead are great ones for this country, 567 00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:17,170 for the cause of freedom and the spread of civilization. 568 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,743 The west won't contain communism, it'll transcend communism. 569 00:27:23,904 --> 00:27:26,904 (Audience applauds) 570 00:27:28,831 --> 00:27:32,160 - And it was there, after he said that in particular, 571 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,690 that he started to talk about the shooting of John Paul ii. 572 00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:38,270 I think looking back in retrospect, 573 00:27:38,270 --> 00:27:40,070 that might have been one of Ronald Reagan's 574 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:44,720 first public indications that he was very much suspecting 575 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,980 a possible Soviet communist hand 576 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,380 in the shooting of pope John Paul ii. 577 00:27:49,380 --> 00:27:51,830 - The first step in the destruction of evil 578 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:54,580 is to name it, to call it out 579 00:27:54,580 --> 00:27:56,033 because it doesn't like that. 580 00:27:58,230 --> 00:28:00,970 - Another absolutely crucial player in this was bill Casey, 581 00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:03,150 the head of the CIA, Irish catholic, 582 00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:05,560 like bill Clark he was an Irish catholic, 583 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,910 and he had been almost plucked out of retirement 584 00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:11,690 by Ronald Reagan and his closest aide, 585 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,850 herb meyer said that Casey felt 586 00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:17,090 that when Ronald Reagan called him to head the CIA, 587 00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:21,120 that god was giving Casey one more shot 588 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,530 to do something really, really significant. 589 00:28:23,530 --> 00:28:27,140 And Casey too felt this divine plan sense 590 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:29,970 that he was being tasked, that he was being called 591 00:28:29,970 --> 00:28:33,650 to do battle against this beast in the Soviet union. 592 00:28:33,650 --> 00:28:36,490 - I didn't know bill Casey well, but I knew him. 593 00:28:36,490 --> 00:28:39,420 This was a brilliant, unappreciated cold warrior. 594 00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:43,840 - May 13th, 1981, very next day may 14th, 1981, 595 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,540 bill Casey immediately called a special session 596 00:28:46,540 --> 00:28:49,080 of the national foreign intelligence board 597 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,490 in Washington, DC on f street 598 00:28:51,490 --> 00:28:55,330 to talk about what exactly the Soviets were up to, 599 00:28:55,330 --> 00:28:59,110 and he wanted to know, from the very beginning he suspected 600 00:28:59,110 --> 00:29:01,190 that maybe they might have had something to do 601 00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:02,690 with the shooting of the pope. 602 00:29:09,530 --> 00:29:11,810 - [Peter] They regarded the us/vatican relationship 603 00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:13,660 as a holy alliance. 604 00:29:13,660 --> 00:29:14,867 The moral force of the pope 605 00:29:14,867 --> 00:29:17,080 and the teachings of their church 606 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,846 combined with fierce anticommunism, 607 00:29:19,846 --> 00:29:22,925 and their notion of an American democracy. 608 00:29:22,925 --> 00:29:25,870 (Suspenseful music) 609 00:29:25,870 --> 00:29:30,240 - Reagan took the moral aspect of the cold war 610 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,810 more seriously than other American presidents had. 611 00:29:32,810 --> 00:29:34,360 Other American presidents tried to figure out 612 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,178 how to manage the cold war. 613 00:29:36,178 --> 00:29:38,390 Reagan wanted to win the cold war. 614 00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:42,580 - Reagan was determined to restore dynamism 615 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:44,690 to the United States economy, 616 00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:47,410 and he was determined to confront 617 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:50,520 Soviet power around the world. 618 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,540 - [H.w.] My policy in the cold war is very simple, 619 00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:53,993 we win, they lose. 620 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:58,570 - [Peter] John Paul ii after returning to the Vatican, 621 00:29:58,570 --> 00:30:01,140 his voice still week after surgery, 622 00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:03,950 addressed to group of Polish pilgrims. 623 00:30:03,950 --> 00:30:06,600 He declared the future was beginning to look grim 624 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,000 for an empire that paraded strength with troop movements, 625 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,050 but was weakening from within. 626 00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:15,230 - President Reagan and John Paul ii's 627 00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:18,310 parallel critique of communism 628 00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:21,290 was that it misread human beings. 629 00:30:21,290 --> 00:30:24,910 It did not realize, would not acknowledge 630 00:30:24,910 --> 00:30:28,730 the inherent dignity and god-given value 631 00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:31,120 of every individual human life, 632 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,653 and if you don't get that right, if you don't get, 633 00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:37,660 if you will the anthropology right, 634 00:30:37,660 --> 00:30:40,490 if you don't get the idea of the human person right, 635 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:43,790 you're gonna make a big mess out of your politics, 636 00:30:43,790 --> 00:30:46,220 out of your society, out of your economy, 637 00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:47,333 out of your culture. 638 00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:50,500 - [Peter] Russia responded to the assassination attempt 639 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:55,370 on the pope as expected, they attempted to deflect blame. 640 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:56,910 Pravda, the official newspaper 641 00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:59,860 of the communist party of the Soviet union, 642 00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:02,070 referred to the pope's would-be assassin, 643 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:05,290 mehmet Ali agca, as a Neo-fascist 644 00:31:05,290 --> 00:31:09,700 with ties to Turkey's Neo-fascist national movement party. 645 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,000 The publication and the party kept emphasizing 646 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,083 that agca was a turk. 647 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,070 When britain's guardian newspaper 648 00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:19,423 speculated on Moscow's involvement, 649 00:31:20,290 --> 00:31:22,880 izvestia, another Soviet organ 650 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,840 called the assertion a vile concoction and ravings. 651 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,350 Moscow tried pointing the finger at the CIA. 652 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:34,510 The kremlin, already on shaky ground, 653 00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:36,490 would put on its own show, 654 00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:40,170 desperately trying to disguise it's oppressive regime 655 00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:42,750 now slowly rotting from within. 656 00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:45,860 - Well now they better really be fearful 657 00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:47,870 of an alliance between these two 658 00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:52,170 because this shooting, which they helped precipitate, 659 00:31:52,170 --> 00:31:54,080 which they took part in, 660 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,000 made that alliance even tighter. 661 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,040 - [Man] The most important story to tell here 662 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,710 is that Reagan and the pope 663 00:31:59,710 --> 00:32:03,630 were operating on the same level of spirituality, 664 00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:07,787 the same level of confidence in a divine power. 665 00:32:07,787 --> 00:32:10,204 (Soft music) 666 00:32:17,170 --> 00:32:18,340 - [Peter] Reagan and the pope would meet 667 00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:20,930 five times in eight years. 668 00:32:20,930 --> 00:32:22,430 - I think being in the room 669 00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:25,840 when the pope and the president met, 670 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,840 you could see there was a delight on both faces. 671 00:32:31,090 --> 00:32:35,380 They were in this place where it was appointed of them 672 00:32:35,380 --> 00:32:36,930 by a divine power. 673 00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:38,960 - People have to understand that John Paul ii 674 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,920 spoke English, it was excellent. 675 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,340 So there wasn't an interpreter to slow down the discussion 676 00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:47,830 between Ronald Reagan and John Paul ii. 677 00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:49,070 So there were many times 678 00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:51,020 when they went for a walk in the woods, 679 00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:52,780 or a walk in the gardens of the Vatican, 680 00:32:52,780 --> 00:32:56,010 just the two of them, talking about the Soviet union, 681 00:32:56,010 --> 00:33:00,250 talking to them about CIA analysis of Soviet intentions, 682 00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:01,330 talking about the growth 683 00:33:01,330 --> 00:33:03,893 of the solidarity movement in Poland. 684 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,010 - A simple yet sincere trust in divine Providence 685 00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:11,090 brought them together, 686 00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:13,780 and boy, I think there was a bond, 687 00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:16,870 a simpatico, as the Italians would say, 688 00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:19,196 that developed because of that. 689 00:33:19,196 --> 00:33:22,260 (Soft music) 690 00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:24,210 - [H.w.] There was constant correspondence 691 00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:25,720 going on between the two. 692 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,240 So many letters, so many telegrams, 693 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,650 so much electronic communication, hard-copy letters. 694 00:33:33,650 --> 00:33:35,550 - [Peter] Unfortunately, most of the contents 695 00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:37,230 are still unknown. 696 00:33:37,230 --> 00:33:40,710 - The Vatican letters have been sealed for 50 years, 697 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:42,800 so nobody knows the content 698 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,690 of pope John Paul ii's letters to Ronald Reagan, 699 00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,550 and won't know for another 20 somet odd years, 700 00:33:48,550 --> 00:33:51,560 they were sealed, which makes it fascinating too, 701 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,590 is the full story of the relationship 702 00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:56,040 between John Paul ii and Ronald Reagan 703 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,970 for many years to come. 704 00:33:57,970 --> 00:34:01,730 - By the end of 1981, Ronald Reagan and John Paul ii 705 00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:05,210 had already exchanged about a dozen or so letters 706 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:07,420 between the two of them. 707 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,240 - [Peter] Reagan and the philosopher pope 708 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:11,490 were more alike than they appeared. 709 00:34:11,490 --> 00:34:13,620 They both, as trained actors, 710 00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:16,530 believed in the power of the symbolic act, 711 00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:19,400 and they shared this important sentiment. 712 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,900 Reagan: "Every person is a res sacra, 713 00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:26,870 a sacred reality." 714 00:34:26,870 --> 00:34:30,380 John Paul ii: "Every person is a unique 715 00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:32,307 and unrepeatable gift of god." 716 00:34:33,432 --> 00:34:36,110 (Soft music) 717 00:34:36,110 --> 00:34:38,040 - With Reagan, where the motivation comes from, 718 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,310 where the values come from, 719 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:42,310 it's a combination of what he felt, what he observed, 720 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:45,745 what he saw worked for him, what played politically well. 721 00:34:45,745 --> 00:34:50,330 And I don't think this makes his beliefs any less sincere. 722 00:34:50,330 --> 00:34:52,600 Reagan believed quite seriously 723 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000 in the need for the United States 724 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,100 to stand for individual freedom, 725 00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:01,850 freedom of conscience, freedom of elective politics. 726 00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:04,750 - He believed in a very ideals of freedom 727 00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:08,512 that he was trying to uphold at home and abroad. 728 00:35:08,512 --> 00:35:11,220 And that belief is not trivial, 729 00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:15,040 and it's not beside the point, and it's not play acting. 730 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,740 - [Peter] Both Reagan and John Paul ii 731 00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,110 believed in the connection between faith and freedom 732 00:35:20,110 --> 00:35:21,540 and were compelled to speak out 733 00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:24,940 boldly and unequivocally against evil. 734 00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:26,350 - [Man] There was a personal relationship 735 00:35:26,350 --> 00:35:29,480 between pope John Paul ii and Ronald Reagan. 736 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,960 - [Peter] They confided in each other 737 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,530 their conviction that god had spared their lives 738 00:35:33,530 --> 00:35:35,940 a year earlier for the divine purpose 739 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:38,100 of defeating the communist empire. 740 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:42,900 - God draws our freedom, he lures our freedom, 741 00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:45,970 so he has a plan, but he wants US cooperating with it. 742 00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:49,010 So the main point is it's not a zero-sum game, 743 00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:50,690 like the more god does, the less we do 744 00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:52,990 or the more we're involved, the less god's involved. 745 00:35:52,990 --> 00:35:54,610 No, on the contrary. 746 00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:55,710 - [Peter] During these years, 747 00:35:55,710 --> 00:35:58,930 the formidable British prime minister, Margaret Thatcher, 748 00:35:58,930 --> 00:36:01,550 joined forces with the pope and the president, 749 00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:05,180 also forging a special bond with Reagan. 750 00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:07,560 As bill Clark, the once chief of staff 751 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,750 turned national security advisor reported, 752 00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:12,600 Reagan and John Paul ii agree 753 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,380 that the key to translating their lofty mission 754 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:18,800 into a real world strategy to defeat Soviet aggression 755 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,030 was to sustain solidarity. 756 00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:24,120 - Look, there's another civilization out there 757 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,110 that wants to help you, 758 00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:28,400 so we are the west, we are part of that alternative 759 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,000 that the pope is describing. 760 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,740 - [Peter] Almost from its inception, 761 00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:34,570 Reagan believed that solidarity was a crack of light 762 00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:35,910 in the iron curtain. 763 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:38,420 - Reagan got advice from his diplomats, 764 00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:41,470 don't do this kind of thing, don't provoke the Soviet union. 765 00:36:41,470 --> 00:36:43,090 The Poles will be better off 766 00:36:43,090 --> 00:36:46,060 if we can treat this on a low-key basis. 767 00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:47,410 Reagan rejected that view. 768 00:36:47,410 --> 00:36:50,500 He said it's very important to take a moral stand, 769 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:54,290 to make a moral statement even when you cannot 770 00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:55,520 do everything that you want 771 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,401 to accomplish your goal immediately 772 00:36:57,401 --> 00:37:01,210 because change comes in small steps. 773 00:37:01,210 --> 00:37:02,850 - [Peter] From 1982 774 00:37:02,850 --> 00:37:06,070 through the June 1989 election in Poland, 775 00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:08,920 when communists did not win a single seat, 776 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,160 the US funneled 50 million dollars to solidarity. 777 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920 It turned out to be a sound investment. 778 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,970 - [Man] The money's going for hand bills, 779 00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:20,850 it's going for later fax machines. 780 00:37:20,850 --> 00:37:24,330 I remember speaking to a group of Polish journalists, 781 00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,100 and I said what was it, what impelled you forward? 782 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,570 What kept you going, what inspired you? 783 00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:32,217 And to a person they said the words of Ronald Reagan 784 00:37:32,217 --> 00:37:33,773 and the words of John Paul ii. 785 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,870 - [Peter] During those years, 786 00:37:35,870 --> 00:37:38,530 a third man was moving into a starring role 787 00:37:38,530 --> 00:37:40,400 in the unfolding drama. 788 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,440 Lech walesa an electrician 789 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680 who worked in the shipyard at gdansk 790 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,130 began to gain strength 791 00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:49,040 and influence with his union, solidarity. 792 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,630 - He's a charismatic shipyard worker in gdansk, 793 00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:56,690 and they were striking over various things 794 00:37:58,183 --> 00:38:02,760 as small as getting an allocation of toilet paper 795 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,530 to bigger things about food and rights 796 00:38:05,530 --> 00:38:08,940 and privileges and all this is, is that Poland is cracking, 797 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:11,930 the western ideas are coming in 798 00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:14,130 and the Soviet union cracks down even more. 799 00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:15,290 - [Peter] While the Polish government 800 00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:18,150 could not obliterate the solidarity movement, 801 00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:21,340 it could impose martial law on the country. 802 00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:26,030 As a result, walesa was arrested, the clergy was persecuted. 803 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:29,280 - [Craig] The harder the Soviets and jaruzelski 804 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,470 cracked down on Poland, 805 00:38:31,470 --> 00:38:33,520 the more solidarity grows, 806 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,830 the more important walesa becomes, 807 00:38:35,830 --> 00:38:39,090 the more important the freedom, 808 00:38:39,090 --> 00:38:41,300 the need for freedom, to desire for freedom, 809 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:44,210 the want for freedom becomes in Poland. 810 00:38:44,210 --> 00:38:45,050 - [Peter] It was clear 811 00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:48,510 that Moscow had a stranglehold on the Polish government. 812 00:38:48,510 --> 00:38:52,400 As brezhnev fumed, the pope stood with his people. 813 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,680 It was said that brezhnev was one of those bolsheviks 814 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,850 who imbibed atheism and anti-church attitude 815 00:38:58,850 --> 00:39:00,513 with their mother's milk. 816 00:39:01,651 --> 00:39:03,100 The Soviet leader was worried about 817 00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,530 the growing strength of solidarity, 818 00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:07,880 and even more about the unshakable hold 819 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,423 the catholic church had on Poland's people. 820 00:39:12,970 --> 00:39:16,010 Contact between Washington and John Paul ii 821 00:39:16,010 --> 00:39:19,670 had actually begun during Jimmy Carter's presidency. 822 00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:23,500 Zbigniew brzezinski, then national security advisor. 823 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,940 - [Brzezinski] Through his great diplomacy 824 00:39:25,940 --> 00:39:30,940 and personal skills to create a very good and excellent 825 00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:34,523 and outstanding relationship with pope John Paul ii. 826 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,120 - [Peter] When Reagan was sworn into office in 1981-- 827 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,080 - I, Ronald Reagan, do solemnly swear 828 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,480 that I will faithfully execute 829 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,670 the office of president of the United States. 830 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:48,770 - [Peter] The contact with the Vatican intensified. 831 00:39:48,770 --> 00:39:50,660 Reagan asked to be informed of everything 832 00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:52,170 that occurred in Poland, 833 00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:54,970 and told Richard Allen, his security aide, 834 00:39:54,970 --> 00:39:57,670 and CIA director, William Casey, 835 00:39:57,670 --> 00:40:00,350 to keep the subject front and center. 836 00:40:00,350 --> 00:40:03,050 Brzezinski was kept on as a consultant 837 00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:06,360 which meant continued contact with John Paul ii. 838 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,537 Brzezinski said, "we involved the pope directly. 839 00:40:09,537 --> 00:40:12,367 "I can't go into details, Casey ran it. 840 00:40:12,367 --> 00:40:14,567 "If something needed to be done it was done. 841 00:40:14,567 --> 00:40:18,210 "To sustain an underground effort takes a lot of effort." 842 00:40:18,210 --> 00:40:20,540 - [Peter] The CIA, under Casey's leadership, 843 00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:23,680 monitored the situation on the ground in Eastern Europe. 844 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,770 Bill Clark, meanwhile, was tapped to act 845 00:40:25,770 --> 00:40:27,970 as a clandestine messenger to the pope 846 00:40:27,970 --> 00:40:31,423 in an ongoing mission codenamed cappuccino. 847 00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:34,330 The moniker came from the coffee 848 00:40:34,330 --> 00:40:37,350 prepared by archbishop pio laghi, 849 00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:40,110 who was the Vatican's ambassador to the US, 850 00:40:40,110 --> 00:40:43,180 and was designated secret contact for Clark. 851 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:45,410 - They were meeting constantly. 852 00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:46,960 Clark thinks that it might have been 853 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,570 as often as maybe even once a week, 854 00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:52,140 and Clark said that he and Casey, 855 00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:53,470 when they would talk on the phone, 856 00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:56,460 sometimes afraid that the phones might be bugged, 857 00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:59,160 that there might be listening devices in the phones, 858 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,570 when they felt the need to get in touch with laghi, 859 00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:04,330 to get in touch with the Vatican, 860 00:41:04,330 --> 00:41:06,570 Clark or Casey would say to the other 861 00:41:06,570 --> 00:41:09,173 I think it's time we get a cappuccino break. 862 00:41:10,410 --> 00:41:14,020 And they had a very strict policy of no notes, 863 00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:17,740 no cameras and no media whatsoever. 864 00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:19,800 - It was the Reagan administration 865 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,800 that gave full diplomatic status to the Vatican. 866 00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,790 - [Peter] Casey flew missions around the world 867 00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:30,320 in a c-141 windowless black jet 868 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,220 and made a point to visit Rome to share intelligence 869 00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:36,010 and to urge the pope at Reagan's behest 870 00:41:36,010 --> 00:41:37,460 to keep up the pressure. 871 00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:40,840 He wanted the pontiff to understand america's position 872 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,370 that the Soviets pose threats not just in Eastern Europe 873 00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:45,420 but around the globe. 874 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,360 - So now you have the two sides really working together 875 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,150 at the level of say, Poland. 876 00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:56,790 Previously, this pope had gone into Poland, 877 00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:58,550 met with people, talked to people, 878 00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:59,990 really saw on the ground 879 00:41:59,990 --> 00:42:02,110 what the solidarity movement was, 880 00:42:02,110 --> 00:42:04,490 what religious belief was in the country. 881 00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:09,100 - [Richard] I shared some satellite photos with bill Casey 882 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:13,610 and I know that he took some of those to Rome 883 00:42:13,610 --> 00:42:16,120 to show to the holy father. 884 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,420 - [Peter] Vernon Walters, 885 00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:20,040 deputy director of central intelligence, 886 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,050 was dispatched to Rome in 1981 887 00:42:23,050 --> 00:42:25,220 with something to show the pope. 888 00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:27,160 - One of the most important outreaches here 889 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,690 liaisons was bill Casey. 890 00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:30,220 Bill Casey and Vernon Walters, 891 00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:32,340 an extraordinary man, Vernon Walters, 892 00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:34,730 an ambassador who spoke a bunch of different languages, 893 00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:36,770 fluent in multi languages. 894 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:40,930 And they would fly often back and forth to the Vatican. 895 00:42:40,930 --> 00:42:43,940 And they would brief the holy father in person. 896 00:42:43,940 --> 00:42:44,930 - [Peter] During his visit, 897 00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:46,810 Walters placed an envelope on the table 898 00:42:46,810 --> 00:42:48,340 in front of the pope. 899 00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:50,750 Inside were satellite photographs. 900 00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:55,040 The pope immediately recognized the gdansk Lenin shipyard 901 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,567 where solidarity had been born. 902 00:42:57,567 --> 00:43:00,320 What is this, asked the vicar of Christ, 903 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,860 pointing to a circle. 904 00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:04,080 Walter replied, heavy equipment 905 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,360 for use by Polish security forces. 906 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,550 Then they looked at other images that showed missiles 907 00:43:09,550 --> 00:43:12,360 programmed to reach Western Europe in minutes. 908 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,070 - So Casey would share with the holy father 909 00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:18,510 pictures of Soviet troop movements in Poland, 910 00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:21,410 of missile locations in czechoslovakia, 911 00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:25,460 and the pope would look at the minute details 912 00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:27,750 of these different satellite images, 913 00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:31,070 and he was just blown away, impressed by this. 914 00:43:31,070 --> 00:43:32,600 - [Peter] Walters was much more interested 915 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,260 in what they knew about the internal situation in Poland. 916 00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:38,250 He had with Walters called 917 00:43:38,250 --> 00:43:41,360 the oldest intelligence service in the world. 918 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,860 Walters, like Reagan, was convinced 919 00:43:43,860 --> 00:43:47,023 the real power in Poland was wojtyla. 920 00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,100 (Music) 921 00:43:59,410 --> 00:44:03,530 The images Walters had shared made John Paul ii believe he, 922 00:44:03,530 --> 00:44:05,430 in fact, might have been a target 923 00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:07,273 of communist bad intentions. 924 00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:12,320 Since the attempt on the pope's life in 1981, 925 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,410 questions of blame swirled around intelligence circles. 926 00:44:16,410 --> 00:44:17,530 - From the very beginning, 927 00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:20,340 Ronald Reagan, bill Casey, bill Clark, 928 00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:22,190 they suspected a possible Soviet hand 929 00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:24,540 in the shooting of the pope from the very beginning, 930 00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:27,000 and then as they started to learn 931 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,470 of a possible Bulgarian connection 932 00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:31,880 to the shooter, mehmet Ali agca. 933 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,380 - [Peter] Few people aware of the ways of the kremlin, 934 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:38,600 believed the Bulgarians, who were dutiful stooges of Moscow, 935 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,290 acted on their own. 936 00:44:40,290 --> 00:44:42,550 - In that period and at that time, 937 00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:44,600 the secret services of all of those countries 938 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,590 were very much under the kgb's roof, 939 00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:50,580 and it would have been a kgb decision to use the Bulgarians 940 00:44:50,580 --> 00:44:52,630 to carry something like that out. 941 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:54,210 - The Bulgarian communist leadership 942 00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:56,070 didn't get up in the morning and put their pants on 943 00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:58,010 without getting kgb approval. 944 00:44:58,010 --> 00:45:01,760 So as this became clear a Bulgarian connection, 945 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,440 as mehmet Ali agca himself named the kgb in one moment 946 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,600 when he was being led out of an Italian prison 947 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,370 to an Italian courthouse in 1983, 948 00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:16,100 all of this for Ronald Reagan and bill Casey and bill Clark 949 00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:19,090 only further fueled what they had already suspected 950 00:45:19,090 --> 00:45:20,040 from the beginning. 951 00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:25,280 - [Peter] At the time of the assassination attempt, 952 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,490 the Italian press raised questions 953 00:45:27,490 --> 00:45:30,490 about who might have masterminded the plot. 954 00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:33,270 The distinguished American journalist, Clara sterling, 955 00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:35,150 who was based in Rome, 956 00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:37,900 also reported on the attempted murder. 957 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,470 - CIA director, Casey, 958 00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:42,790 was impressed by sterling's level of detail, 959 00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:45,590 particularly her ability to detect discrepancies 960 00:45:45,590 --> 00:45:48,690 in the stories the gunman, agca, was telling. 961 00:45:48,690 --> 00:45:50,840 In her front-page article in the New York times, 962 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,810 sterling strongly suggested a Soviet hand at work, 963 00:45:54,810 --> 00:45:57,660 although she did not present any evidence. 964 00:45:57,660 --> 00:46:00,960 The CIA continued to investigate sterling's theory. 965 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,140 Supposedly, a document existed that said 966 00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:08,000 nine comrades from the central committee should disorder. 967 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,750 Use all possibilities of the Soviet union 968 00:46:10,750 --> 00:46:12,900 to prevent the course of policies 969 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,280 initiated by the Polish pope, 970 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,350 if necessary, with additional measures 971 00:46:18,350 --> 00:46:22,074 beyond disinformation and discreditization. 972 00:46:22,074 --> 00:46:24,324 (Gun shot) 973 00:46:26,134 --> 00:46:28,384 (Gun shot) 974 00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:32,440 (Gun shot) 975 00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:35,760 - I think everybody is trying to find 976 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,130 the smoking memorandum here. 977 00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:41,760 No one would have written down go shoot the pope. 978 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,900 That's not the way that game worked. 979 00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:47,430 - But a number of people have read that document 980 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:51,550 including the Italian secret service sisde, s-i-s-d-e, 981 00:46:51,550 --> 00:46:55,010 and they believe that that document was an actual call 982 00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:58,300 for the physical elimination of John Paul ii. 983 00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:00,060 - There's one thing about a bureaucracy 984 00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:03,100 that people need to understand is that they are committed 985 00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:04,890 to committing everything to writing. 986 00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:08,170 Bureaucrats love to see their name in writing, 987 00:47:08,170 --> 00:47:11,130 bureaucrats love to commit things to paper. 988 00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:12,760 And it doesn't matter whether it's a bureaucrat 989 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,920 in the kremlin, or a bureaucrat in the Soviet union, 990 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,750 or a bureaucrat in Washington. 991 00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:21,290 - This speculation is absolutely warranted. 992 00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:24,060 We use deductive logic, 993 00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:25,790 we collect 994 00:47:27,250 --> 00:47:29,410 shreds and pieces 995 00:47:29,410 --> 00:47:32,580 to restore a picture because the kremlin 996 00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:36,090 does not allow US into its archives. 997 00:47:36,090 --> 00:47:39,660 - Well, put it like this, there's no way 998 00:47:39,660 --> 00:47:43,250 that Bulgarian secret service is going to murder the, 999 00:47:43,250 --> 00:47:46,280 attempt to murder the pope, any pope, 1000 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,520 but particularly this pope, 1001 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,530 without clearing it with the Soviet union. 1002 00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:54,200 - But it was done so with the blessing, 1003 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,700 the go-ahead, the approval, the green light 1004 00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,538 of the head of the kgb, a guy named Yuri andropov. 1005 00:48:01,538 --> 00:48:04,538 (Suspenseful music) 1006 00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:09,150 - [Peter] Though the exact date of the meeting 1007 00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:12,380 was never fully confirmed, Casey met with Reagan 1008 00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:14,443 in the spring of 1985. 1009 00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:18,280 Casey and the president that the Soviets 1010 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,530 had ordered the assassination attempt on the pope. 1011 00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:23,283 There were more convincing clues. 1012 00:48:25,029 --> 00:48:27,340 (Soft music) 1013 00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:31,090 In 2006, Paul kengor met with bill Clarke, 1014 00:48:31,090 --> 00:48:32,530 long retired from his post 1015 00:48:32,530 --> 00:48:35,660 as national security adviser to President Reagan, 1016 00:48:35,660 --> 00:48:38,190 at Clark's California ranch. 1017 00:48:38,190 --> 00:48:40,840 Kengor discovered a piece of paper 1018 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,470 with a rare public statement Clark had made 1019 00:48:43,470 --> 00:48:46,120 in Las Vegas in 1984 1020 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,120 at a reunion of army counterintelligence veterans. 1021 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,240 The statement made clear that Clark suspected the Soviets 1022 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,140 were behind the assassination attempt of the pope. 1023 00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:58,850 It even had a penciled-in note suggesting a Bulgarian, 1024 00:48:58,850 --> 00:49:00,913 and therefore, Soviet connection. 1025 00:49:02,140 --> 00:49:04,070 But was there enough proof? 1026 00:49:04,070 --> 00:49:06,870 - Something that's obviously very intriguing about this 1027 00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:10,390 is that working in the kgb in the 1980s at the time, 1028 00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:14,520 was a lower ranking lieutenant colonel named Vladimir putin. 1029 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,810 Now, to be clear, there's no way that putin would've known 1030 00:49:17,810 --> 00:49:20,580 anything about this at the time, the shooting of the pope, 1031 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:22,750 there's no way he would have been involved. 1032 00:49:22,750 --> 00:49:26,310 This was the tightest thing that the Soviets ever did 1033 00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:30,490 in their 3/4 of a century of murder and mayhem. 1034 00:49:30,490 --> 00:49:32,980 Very, very few people knew about this. 1035 00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:34,820 However, I think it's, 1036 00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:38,570 I can't imagine that today, Vladimir putin, 1037 00:49:38,570 --> 00:49:42,930 who's been in charge of the former Soviet union, of Russia, 1038 00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:44,610 since the year 2000. 1039 00:49:44,610 --> 00:49:48,537 He surely now knows today what exactly happened, 1040 00:49:48,537 --> 00:49:53,090 and what exactly the role the kgb and the gru was. 1041 00:49:53,090 --> 00:49:54,350 - [Peter] All these years later, 1042 00:49:54,350 --> 00:49:56,483 the report is still under wraps. 1043 00:49:57,850 --> 00:49:59,080 Why? 1044 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,860 Is the US government worried about offending today's Russia? 1045 00:50:02,860 --> 00:50:06,060 Is it sensitive to the concerns of Vladimir putin 1046 00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:08,620 who might want to protect his former boss, 1047 00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:12,387 one time Soviet secretary-general, Yuri andropov? 1048 00:50:12,387 --> 00:50:15,770 And his former employee the kgb? 1049 00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:17,780 Or is the US government being sensitive 1050 00:50:17,780 --> 00:50:19,980 to the concerns of the Vatican, 1051 00:50:19,980 --> 00:50:22,913 which still doesn't want to see international division? 1052 00:50:24,070 --> 00:50:26,400 Those are questions still unanswered, 1053 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,110 but in real time, and in the course of the divine plan, 1054 00:50:30,110 --> 00:50:32,410 there would be no more hiding the truth 1055 00:50:32,410 --> 00:50:35,120 even the pope himself would come to conceived, 1056 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,260 albeit privately, that he also knew 1057 00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:40,783 who was behind his assassination. 1058 00:50:42,445 --> 00:50:44,862 (Soft music) 1059 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,350 The pope suspected early on that Soviet intelligence 1060 00:50:50,350 --> 00:50:52,550 had ordered the assassination, 1061 00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:56,330 but ultimately, he did not want the subject exposed. 1062 00:50:56,330 --> 00:51:00,450 - John Paul ii's response I'm told was I know, 1063 00:51:00,450 --> 00:51:03,680 I figured this, this doesn't surprise me at all, 1064 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,810 but he didn't want the United States 1065 00:51:05,810 --> 00:51:07,410 to make a big deal out of it, 1066 00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:10,620 didn't want the United States to release that information. 1067 00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:12,720 - [Peter] What was done was done, 1068 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,640 and he did not want to derail the crucial dialogue 1069 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,720 that it opened up between the Vatican and the new 1070 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:22,989 and very different Soviet leader, mikhail gorbachev. 1071 00:51:22,989 --> 00:51:25,480 (Soft music) 1072 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,690 Gorbachev's star, like Reagan's and the pope's, 1073 00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:30,430 had risen steadily. 1074 00:51:30,430 --> 00:51:32,930 He ascended through the ranks of the Porter bureau 1075 00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:37,133 to become president of the ussr. 1076 00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:42,420 To friends and colleagues, the pope refer to gorbachev 1077 00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:44,430 as the providential man. 1078 00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:47,650 - [Man] That somehow, that he was part of a kind of 1079 00:51:47,650 --> 00:51:50,750 cosmic realignment that was going on, 1080 00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:54,210 that the moment was right for change in the world 1081 00:51:54,210 --> 00:51:57,590 because gorbachev was willing to recognize 1082 00:51:57,590 --> 00:52:00,760 what was heinous and wrong with not just stalinism, 1083 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,450 but you know, the kgb and brezhnev, 1084 00:52:05,450 --> 00:52:07,213 and that there was this hope. 1085 00:52:08,292 --> 00:52:10,875 (Solemn music) 1086 00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,540 - [Peter] With gorbachev, the pope and the president 1087 00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:20,660 found a new cast member introduced to this historical drama, 1088 00:52:20,660 --> 00:52:22,823 one that had the power to transform. 1089 00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:26,120 - If you wanted to set the scene 1090 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,910 for the late 70s, early 80s, 1091 00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:31,080 a dramatic moment in time, 1092 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,350 you would have been very hard-pressed 1093 00:52:33,350 --> 00:52:35,700 to think up these four characters, 1094 00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:40,440 and moreover, these four characters at the same time. 1095 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,550 - [Peter] The communist creed 1096 00:52:41,550 --> 00:52:46,080 that dominated Russian politics since the revolution of 1917 1097 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,830 would no longer hold. 1098 00:52:47,830 --> 00:52:50,260 It was time to pull back the iron curtain 1099 00:52:50,260 --> 00:52:54,250 and shine the new light of glasnost and perestroika. 1100 00:52:54,250 --> 00:52:57,023 Glasnost, reform and restructuring. 1101 00:52:57,990 --> 00:53:02,090 Perestroika, a promised new opening in the Soviet union. 1102 00:53:02,090 --> 00:53:04,880 - Glasnost was really a radical change 1103 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,730 because this was, glasnost, was initially meant to be 1104 00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:08,563 part of an economic reform, 1105 00:53:08,563 --> 00:53:11,100 it was the Soviet union was going to, 1106 00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,780 people were going to speak honestly about problems, 1107 00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:15,130 our factories don't work, 1108 00:53:15,130 --> 00:53:16,830 our distribution system is terrible, 1109 00:53:16,830 --> 00:53:20,350 we have all these shortages, we have these disasters, 1110 00:53:20,350 --> 00:53:21,850 let's talk about them honestly, 1111 00:53:21,850 --> 00:53:23,860 because that's the prerequisite to fixing them, 1112 00:53:23,860 --> 00:53:26,730 so let's have open and positive conversations. 1113 00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:29,160 - [Peter] Gorbachev was nothing if not a realist, 1114 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,170 and he began loosening some of the chains 1115 00:53:31,170 --> 00:53:33,060 that had constricted Russian life 1116 00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:35,770 including those that ruled religion. 1117 00:53:35,770 --> 00:53:39,390 - Ironically, it was western liberalism, 1118 00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:42,730 classical liberalism which gorbachev instituted 1119 00:53:42,730 --> 00:53:45,150 with glasnost and perestroika, 1120 00:53:45,150 --> 00:53:47,990 which are basically western liberal ideas 1121 00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:50,480 that were his undoing. 1122 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,700 Gorbachev was actually unintentionally 1123 00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:56,160 hollowing out the Soviet union 1124 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,450 by admitting everything they stood for 1125 00:53:58,450 --> 00:54:01,855 for the past 77 years, had been wrong. 1126 00:54:01,855 --> 00:54:03,890 (Soft music) 1127 00:54:03,890 --> 00:54:06,610 - [Peter] It was obvious to anyone paying attention 1128 00:54:06,610 --> 00:54:08,910 that the empire was crumbling. 1129 00:54:08,910 --> 00:54:11,120 Meanwhile, the western liberal press 1130 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,160 began to treat gorbachev as a hero 1131 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,250 with his promised new era of glasnost. 1132 00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:18,600 Reagan and the pope for more cautious, 1133 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,500 but they hoped a dawn of peace would come 1134 00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:22,810 with a help with this new Soviet leader. 1135 00:54:22,810 --> 00:54:25,220 - [Man] Unlike his three predecessors, 1136 00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:28,363 konstantin chernenko, Yuri andropov and leonid brezhnev, 1137 00:54:29,950 --> 00:54:34,730 gorbachev did not see his closest friends 1138 00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:39,730 dragged down into the basement of lubyanka prison in Moscow 1139 00:54:40,460 --> 00:54:44,032 and assassinated with a bullet in the back of the head. 1140 00:54:44,032 --> 00:54:44,910 (Gun shot) 1141 00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:49,910 He didn't have that cold, almost reptilian look 1142 00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:52,070 that the others had. 1143 00:54:52,070 --> 00:54:57,070 - He set out to do something that was unachievable, 1144 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,130 namely to save the Soviet union from its own sclerosis. 1145 00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:06,720 - You can't reform something that's fundamentally mistaken 1146 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,490 in its basic ideas. 1147 00:55:08,490 --> 00:55:12,110 - Once you began speaking honestly about the way things are, 1148 00:55:12,110 --> 00:55:14,400 people immediately began to want to speak honestly 1149 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,580 about everything including the past. 1150 00:55:16,580 --> 00:55:18,943 What had really happened under Stalin? 1151 00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:22,420 What was the gulag? 1152 00:55:22,420 --> 00:55:25,419 Why did all those people disappear into nowhere? 1153 00:55:25,419 --> 00:55:28,419 (Suspenseful music) 1154 00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:32,460 - Of all the freedoms in the Soviet union 1155 00:55:32,460 --> 00:55:34,230 that were among the most repressed 1156 00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:37,540 and that most bothered Ronald Reagan and John Paul ii 1157 00:55:37,540 --> 00:55:39,810 was the repression of religious freedom. 1158 00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:44,530 And to the two of them, when mikhail gorbachev came in 1159 00:55:44,530 --> 00:55:47,730 with his glasnost, allowed for freedom of press, 1160 00:55:47,730 --> 00:55:50,990 freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, those are all great, 1161 00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:53,800 but not where as important as a freedom of religion 1162 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,130 that gorbachev allowed. 1163 00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:58,283 - [Peter] Reagan said, "freedom is like a genie. 1164 00:55:58,283 --> 00:55:59,737 " Gorbachev learned this. 1165 00:55:59,737 --> 00:56:01,927 "When you let that genie out of the bottle, 1166 00:56:01,927 --> 00:56:04,270 "you can't put it back in." 1167 00:56:04,270 --> 00:56:08,210 - It became such a widespread movement in Russia 1168 00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:11,253 that they didn't know how to control or contain it. 1169 00:56:12,130 --> 00:56:15,660 And so he, in many ways, gorbachev became 1170 00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:19,560 popular in the United States, popular with conservatives 1171 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,730 in the US and Western Europe, 1172 00:56:21,730 --> 00:56:25,170 and a man without a home in Russia. 1173 00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:28,610 - In Russia, he is not remembered as a hero. 1174 00:56:28,610 --> 00:56:30,970 On the contrary, he's remembered as the man 1175 00:56:30,970 --> 00:56:32,480 who brought down the Soviet empire, 1176 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,350 and is the man who triggered a decade's worth 1177 00:56:35,350 --> 00:56:37,073 of economic catastrophe. 1178 00:56:38,018 --> 00:56:40,435 (Soft music) 1179 00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:48,750 - Once a totalitarian state begins to acknowledge 1180 00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:51,400 an elementary human right, 1181 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,793 it's like tugging on a thread in a tapestry. 1182 00:56:56,073 --> 00:56:59,730 If you tug hard enough on that one thread, 1183 00:56:59,730 --> 00:57:02,290 the whole thing is going to unravel. 1184 00:57:02,290 --> 00:57:05,320 - [Peter] The stage was set for the end of the cold war. 1185 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,050 What would be the final breaking point 1186 00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:10,020 if indeed there was a divine plan? 1187 00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:12,110 A key element would be stopping the madness 1188 00:57:12,110 --> 00:57:15,513 of the nuclear arms race between the two global superpowers. 1189 00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:21,390 Reagan and gorbachev met five times between 1985 and 1988. 1190 00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:23,994 The first meeting was in Geneva. 1191 00:57:23,994 --> 00:57:25,700 - The president and I were sitting in front of this fire 1192 00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:28,870 waiting for the gorbachev motorcade to arrive. 1193 00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:30,250 And it was just the two of US 1194 00:57:30,250 --> 00:57:33,100 and I said how are we gonna get rid of it forever? 1195 00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:36,820 And he looked at me and without skipping a beat said 1196 00:57:36,820 --> 00:57:39,120 oh Jim, that's only gonna happen 1197 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,503 because of the people's desire to know god. 1198 00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:45,120 - [Peter] Reagan had faith in the process. 1199 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,770 - And Reagan recognized that tough rhetoric mattered, 1200 00:57:48,770 --> 00:57:51,550 and that, you know, his most famous saying 1201 00:57:51,550 --> 00:57:55,200 about the Soviets is trust but verify. 1202 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,210 Basically, we don't trust you, and nobody should trust you. 1203 00:57:59,210 --> 00:58:01,880 That you're a kingdom of lies and secrecy, 1204 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,310 that the kgb is corrupt. 1205 00:58:04,310 --> 00:58:05,970 - [Peter] Finally, it appeared that a door 1206 00:58:05,970 --> 00:58:08,260 in the negotiations had opened. 1207 00:58:08,260 --> 00:58:11,320 It was October 11th, 1986. 1208 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,860 A summit between Reagan and gorbachev 1209 00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:17,550 was hastily arranged in Reykjavik, Iceland. 1210 00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:20,170 When they met, Reagan noticed that gorbachev 1211 00:58:20,170 --> 00:58:22,730 often invoked god in the conversation. 1212 00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:25,717 The one thing that always angered Reagan 1213 00:58:25,717 --> 00:58:29,140 was that in the Soviet union, you couldn't have a Bible, 1214 00:58:29,140 --> 00:58:31,710 that you couldn't have freedom of worship, 1215 00:58:31,710 --> 00:58:36,240 at dinner during the toast, gorbachev quoted ecclesiastes, 1216 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,160 ending with a time to throw away the stones 1217 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,820 and a time to gather the stones together. 1218 00:58:42,820 --> 00:58:47,060 - This mattered to him and I think gave him fortitude 1219 00:58:47,060 --> 00:58:52,060 in his anticommunist policies in the 1980s. 1220 00:58:53,260 --> 00:58:55,150 - [Peter] In fact, gorbachev admitted later 1221 00:58:55,150 --> 00:58:56,670 to a top aide of John Paul ii 1222 00:58:57,730 --> 00:58:59,850 that his mother and three of his grandparents 1223 00:58:59,850 --> 00:59:01,260 had been christians, 1224 00:59:01,260 --> 00:59:03,020 and that he was secretly baptized 1225 00:59:03,020 --> 00:59:05,330 in the Russian orthodox church. 1226 00:59:05,330 --> 00:59:09,060 Later in November 1989, he would make a speech 1227 00:59:09,060 --> 00:59:12,750 in which he affirmed the need for spirituality in the world 1228 00:59:12,750 --> 00:59:16,437 and it called for, "a revolution in men's souls. 1229 00:59:16,437 --> 00:59:18,747 "Religion helps perestroika. 1230 00:59:18,747 --> 00:59:20,377 "We have given up pretending 1231 00:59:20,377 --> 00:59:22,487 "to have a monopoly on the truth." 1232 00:59:23,890 --> 00:59:28,290 - But Reagan's thoughts and pope John Paul ii's thoughts 1233 00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:30,620 had penetrated the Soviet state 1234 00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:32,940 to allow a new way of thinking. 1235 00:59:32,940 --> 00:59:35,500 Even more astonishing than that admission, 1236 00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:37,810 was the sight the next day in 1989 1237 00:59:37,810 --> 00:59:41,410 of a limousine bearing the flag with a hammer and sickle, 1238 00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:44,160 motoring down the Avenue to the Vatican. 1239 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,800 In that visit, a communist and a pope 1240 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,593 would meet for the first time. 1241 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,270 Back in Reykjavik, Reagan and gorbachev 1242 00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:55,300 continued the negotiations 1243 00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:56,520 hoping to strike a deal 1244 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,100 to control intermediate-range ballistic missiles. 1245 01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:02,870 The stage was set for progress. 1246 01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:04,870 They already shared with one another 1247 01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:09,210 their intense desire to abolish nuclear weapons. 1248 01:00:09,210 --> 01:00:12,490 Reagan's arms control director, Ken adelman, 1249 01:00:12,490 --> 01:00:14,920 described the meeting as intense. 1250 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,730 Reagan and gorbachev talked for 10 1/2 hours. 1251 01:00:18,730 --> 01:00:21,400 - [H.w.] With Reagan, he was patient, he was pragmatic. 1252 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,510 You don't have to win it all at once, Reagan used to say. 1253 01:00:24,510 --> 01:00:27,340 I would rather get 80% of what I want, 1254 01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:29,510 than go over the cliff with my flags flying. 1255 01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:32,100 Because Reagan understood, maybe you get 80% today, 1256 01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,280 you come back tomorrow, you get a bit more. 1257 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,460 - [Peter] There was no knowledge gap 1258 01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:37,070 between the two leaders. 1259 01:00:37,070 --> 01:00:39,860 They came within sight of an incredible agreement 1260 01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:42,580 theretofore unimaginable. 1261 01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:45,460 Until gorbachev demanded that Reagan give up his dream 1262 01:00:45,460 --> 01:00:48,780 of sdi, the strategic defense initiative, 1263 01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:52,780 the missile program popularly known as star wars. 1264 01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:56,270 - [Craig] Sti was an idea, but it was Reagan's idea, 1265 01:00:56,270 --> 01:00:59,410 and it terrified gorbachev and the Soviet generals. 1266 01:00:59,410 --> 01:01:02,570 - After all, we did put Neil Armstrong on the moon 1267 01:01:02,570 --> 01:01:04,420 in the summer of 1969. 1268 01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:06,310 We won the space race, 1269 01:01:06,310 --> 01:01:09,430 and the Soviets couldn't believe that we did feat, 1270 01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:11,540 and then when we said we're now creating 1271 01:01:11,540 --> 01:01:13,950 a strategic defense initiative, 1272 01:01:13,950 --> 01:01:16,450 a protective shield for nuclear weapons 1273 01:01:16,450 --> 01:01:21,450 that will make US never vulnerable to Soviet missiles, 1274 01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:24,970 they believed we had that technology. 1275 01:01:24,970 --> 01:01:26,650 - [Peter] Reagan was adamant. 1276 01:01:26,650 --> 01:01:30,500 There would be no capitulation on sdi. 1277 01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:32,460 Gorbachev would not budge either. 1278 01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:34,820 He complained and not just once, 1279 01:01:34,820 --> 01:01:36,653 I am making all the concessions. 1280 01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:39,690 Each time Reagan said nothing. 1281 01:01:39,690 --> 01:01:41,210 He never answered. 1282 01:01:41,210 --> 01:01:43,650 According to adelman on the plane going home, 1283 01:01:43,650 --> 01:01:48,150 gorbachev complained to his staff, I give away things. 1284 01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:50,270 The two left Reykjavik at an impasse, 1285 01:01:50,270 --> 01:01:52,740 although Reagan clearly have the upper hand. 1286 01:01:52,740 --> 01:01:54,660 They both faced the hard truth 1287 01:01:54,660 --> 01:01:57,600 that nuclear war was a continuing threat, 1288 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,780 and agreed to meet again in Washington 1289 01:01:59,780 --> 01:02:02,970 which would take place 14 months later. 1290 01:02:02,970 --> 01:02:04,770 This was December 1987. 1291 01:02:06,580 --> 01:02:09,163 (Solemn music) 1292 01:02:15,290 --> 01:02:17,370 In a speech a week before Reykjavik, 1293 01:02:17,370 --> 01:02:20,610 Reagan began to pressure gorbachev on religious freedom. 1294 01:02:20,610 --> 01:02:22,550 - How can we help but doubt a government 1295 01:02:22,550 --> 01:02:24,170 that mistrusts its own people 1296 01:02:24,170 --> 01:02:25,940 and holds them against their will? 1297 01:02:25,940 --> 01:02:28,280 - [Peter] Despite some loosening of restrictions, 1298 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,450 the ussr continued to suppress 1299 01:02:30,450 --> 01:02:34,110 and even jail Russian Jews for practicing their faith, 1300 01:02:34,110 --> 01:02:36,360 and would not let them emigrate. 1301 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,890 Reagan badly wanted a treaty 1302 01:02:37,890 --> 01:02:39,270 that would eliminate intermediate 1303 01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:41,870 and short-range nuclear missiles, 1304 01:02:41,870 --> 01:02:44,653 but he could not remain silent about human rights. 1305 01:02:46,060 --> 01:02:48,710 The state department worried that his outspokenness 1306 01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:49,910 would jeopardize a treaty 1307 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:53,190 that was so close to being a fait accompli. 1308 01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:55,670 Reagan also demanded the legalization 1309 01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:57,760 of the Ukrainian catholic church 1310 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,490 which must have resonated with John Paul ii 1311 01:03:00,490 --> 01:03:02,480 while enraging the Soviets. 1312 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,520 But gorbachev was ready to finalize 1313 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,550 the intermediate-range nuclear forces inf treaty. 1314 01:03:08,550 --> 01:03:12,440 He stated, I am convinced it is god's will 1315 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,913 that we should cooperate. 1316 01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:18,040 - They went head to head on a number of occasions, 1317 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,300 especially at Reykjavik, 1318 01:03:19,300 --> 01:03:21,871 and Reagan is just kind of trying to figure, 1319 01:03:21,871 --> 01:03:23,620 why can't you come to an agreement? 1320 01:03:23,620 --> 01:03:25,300 Gorbachev is saying why can't you agree with US? 1321 01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:26,400 We're so close. 1322 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,930 But they do form this personal relationship. 1323 01:03:28,930 --> 01:03:31,330 And in his last meeting with, 1324 01:03:31,330 --> 01:03:32,760 one of his last meetings with gorbachev, 1325 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,530 Reagan is asked if he still believes something 1326 01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:36,210 that he said back in 1983, 1327 01:03:36,210 --> 01:03:39,490 is the Soviet union an evil empire? 1328 01:03:39,490 --> 01:03:41,020 And Reagan doesn't repeat that. 1329 01:03:41,020 --> 01:03:42,740 He says those were different days. 1330 01:03:42,740 --> 01:03:45,060 Reagan finally came to the belief 1331 01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:48,920 that reform is possible in the Soviet union. 1332 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,060 - [Peter] The nuclear freeze 1333 01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:53,220 was made official on December 8th, 1987 1334 01:03:53,220 --> 01:03:54,910 with the signing of the inf treaty 1335 01:03:54,910 --> 01:03:57,473 in the east room of the white house. 1336 01:03:59,250 --> 01:04:01,180 The date was also the feast day 1337 01:04:01,180 --> 01:04:03,930 of the immaculate conception of the blessed virgin Mary 1338 01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:08,903 to whom the pope is consecrated his life and papacy. 1339 01:04:09,850 --> 01:04:13,150 At this moment John Paul ii was behind the iron curtain 1340 01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:15,300 on his third trip to Poland. 1341 01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:19,110 This time you traveled to gdansk and met with lech walesa, 1342 01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:22,480 giving as a story in Robert's service would characterize, 1343 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,820 an ecclesiastical benediction to solidarity. 1344 01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:27,900 - So one of the things that clearly happened 1345 01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:29,430 at the end of the 1980s, 1346 01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:31,900 is that some members of some of the Soviet elite, 1347 01:04:31,900 --> 01:04:34,120 and obviously gorbachev is one of them, 1348 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:39,120 stopped seeing the west as an evil demon, as a threat. 1349 01:04:40,170 --> 01:04:42,150 - [Peter] President Reagan was besieged 1350 01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:43,660 not just from the left. 1351 01:04:43,660 --> 01:04:45,190 Conservatives were furious 1352 01:04:45,190 --> 01:04:46,570 that dealing with the gorbachev 1353 01:04:46,570 --> 01:04:50,540 was betraying his long-held cold war principles. 1354 01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:52,040 And before he spoke in Berlin, 1355 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,530 officials from the state department 1356 01:04:53,530 --> 01:04:56,650 repeatedly tried to cut a line from his speech. 1357 01:04:56,650 --> 01:04:59,130 It would be the line that would reverberate 1358 01:04:59,130 --> 01:05:00,810 across the globe. 1359 01:05:00,810 --> 01:05:05,810 - General secretary gorbachev, if you seek peace, 1360 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,780 if you seek prosperity for the Soviet union 1361 01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:13,510 and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, 1362 01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:15,900 come here to this gate. 1363 01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:19,445 Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. 1364 01:05:19,445 --> 01:05:21,530 (Crowd cheers) 1365 01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:25,771 Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. 1366 01:05:25,771 --> 01:05:28,354 (Crowd cheers) 1367 01:05:29,530 --> 01:05:31,010 - [Peter] There was no turning back 1368 01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:32,840 for the Soviet regime. 1369 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,190 The only question was the speed of its fall. 1370 01:05:36,190 --> 01:05:40,010 - Toward the end, gorbachev is out of power. 1371 01:05:40,010 --> 01:05:41,930 He's had the wisdom to get down on his knees 1372 01:05:41,930 --> 01:05:44,650 ensue for peace and beg the west for mercy. 1373 01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:46,390 And Reagan takes his cowboy appeal, 1374 01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:48,950 and puts it on the neck of Soviet communism, 1375 01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:50,447 crushes the life out of it. 1376 01:05:50,447 --> 01:05:53,530 And gorbachev says shortly thereafter, 1377 01:05:53,530 --> 01:05:55,440 he said the future is clear 1378 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,090 and the future points to freedom. 1379 01:05:59,980 --> 01:06:00,970 - [Peter] John Paul ii 1380 01:06:00,970 --> 01:06:03,080 would pick up the torch of summitry, 1381 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,840 meeting one-on-one with gorbachev at the Vatican 1382 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,860 in that truly historic meeting in 1989. 1383 01:06:09,860 --> 01:06:11,867 Even the New York times would write, 1384 01:06:11,867 --> 01:06:13,267 "for the first time ever 1385 01:06:13,267 --> 01:06:16,277 "the leader of atheistic Soviet communism 1386 01:06:16,277 --> 01:06:18,407 "meets the vicar of Christ." 1387 01:06:20,860 --> 01:06:24,000 Change had come so dramatically in such a short time, 1388 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,290 and without a gun being fired. 1389 01:06:26,290 --> 01:06:28,670 One could only wonder whether this was all part 1390 01:06:28,670 --> 01:06:30,460 of the divine plan. 1391 01:06:30,460 --> 01:06:33,540 Faith, though subjugated for decades, 1392 01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:36,083 had shown the power to change the world. 1393 01:06:37,970 --> 01:06:41,510 The election in Poland in 1989 was the first confirmation 1394 01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:44,343 that the Soviet empire was on its way to oblivion. 1395 01:06:46,550 --> 01:06:51,550 On November 9th, 1989, the Berlin wall came down. 1396 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,113 The final act against the Soviet empire drew to a close. 1397 01:06:57,980 --> 01:07:00,490 - They were both instruments of peace, 1398 01:07:00,490 --> 01:07:04,515 they were instruments of god in this larger divine plan. 1399 01:07:04,515 --> 01:07:07,650 - I think we won the cold war, 1400 01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:09,900 but it may have just been round one, 1401 01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:14,730 and alas you're seeing a cold war ii emerging under putin. 1402 01:07:14,730 --> 01:07:17,140 - [Man] He's very dangerous, he's a throwback. 1403 01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:19,860 He wants to reassemble the old Soviet state. 1404 01:07:19,860 --> 01:07:22,810 He's a former kgb officer 1405 01:07:22,810 --> 01:07:25,570 who specialized in intelligence. 1406 01:07:25,570 --> 01:07:30,570 This is that putin knows the Russian people mourn the past. 1407 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,680 - He is projecting himself as somebody 1408 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,140 who will bring back some kind of glory, 1409 01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:39,070 whether it's not quite the Soviet empire, 1410 01:07:39,070 --> 01:07:41,730 maybe it's the Russian empire. 1411 01:07:41,730 --> 01:07:45,240 Certainly it's Russia playing role on the world stage again 1412 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,648 and having some kind of influence again. 1413 01:07:47,648 --> 01:07:50,648 (Suspenseful music) 1414 01:08:00,050 --> 01:08:02,040 (Soft music) 1415 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,150 - At the end of almost every speech, 1416 01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:08,487 Reagan invokes these words from Thomas paine, 1417 01:08:08,487 --> 01:08:12,067 "remember we have it within our ability 1418 01:08:12,067 --> 01:08:14,940 "to begin the world over again." 1419 01:08:14,940 --> 01:08:18,543 Reagan felt that we did have that ability, 1420 01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:23,540 and he gives his audience not only a charge 1421 01:08:23,540 --> 01:08:25,270 to go out and do that, 1422 01:08:25,270 --> 01:08:28,000 but the confidence he has in them 1423 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,563 that they will go out and begin the world over again. 1424 01:08:33,870 --> 01:08:35,850 - [Peter] Were John Paul ii and Ronald Reagan 1425 01:08:35,850 --> 01:08:39,616 directly responsible for the fall of communism? 1426 01:08:39,616 --> 01:08:42,033 (Soft music) 1427 01:08:42,980 --> 01:08:45,510 - When people talk about the pope being involved 1428 01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:46,780 in the fall of communism, 1429 01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:47,890 they don't mean that the pope 1430 01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:50,030 was literally on the barricades. 1431 01:08:50,030 --> 01:08:51,633 What they mean is that the pope, 1432 01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:55,830 the pope gave people an alternative world view. 1433 01:08:55,830 --> 01:08:57,750 - [Peter] In comments at westminster palace 1434 01:08:57,750 --> 01:09:00,060 in London in 1982, 1435 01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:01,860 Reagan said that the Soviet union 1436 01:09:01,860 --> 01:09:05,900 was gripped by a great revolutionary crisis 1437 01:09:05,900 --> 01:09:08,180 in which Poland magnificently 1438 01:09:08,180 --> 01:09:11,490 unreconciled to repression was the pivot. 1439 01:09:11,490 --> 01:09:13,920 - There has been and will continue to be 1440 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,119 repeated explosions against repression and dictatorships. 1441 01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:21,763 The Soviet union itself is not immune to this reality. 1442 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,750 - The 20th century was a pretty 1443 01:09:26,750 --> 01:09:29,043 awful period in human history. 1444 01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:33,240 Between the beginning of the first world war in 1914 1445 01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:37,840 and the end of the cold war in 1991, 1446 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:42,690 something on the order of 70 to 80 million human beings 1447 01:09:42,690 --> 01:09:47,690 were killed not in war, but by political violence. 1448 01:09:47,970 --> 01:09:51,010 This is a pretty awful record, 1449 01:09:51,010 --> 01:09:55,960 and yet the fact that the 20th century as an era 1450 01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,760 ended with the victory of freedom in the cold war, 1451 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,650 and that at the root of that victory of freedom 1452 01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:05,921 was a revolution of conscience. 1453 01:10:05,921 --> 01:10:08,338 (Soft music) 1454 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,440 - If you really look at the grand scope of this, 1455 01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:20,490 you have Ronald Reagan born in 1911, 1456 01:10:20,490 --> 01:10:24,420 the bolshevik revolution breaks out in October 1917, 1457 01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:26,980 karol wojtyla was born in 1920, 1458 01:10:26,980 --> 01:10:31,150 and by the end of their lives, of Reagan's presidency, 1459 01:10:31,150 --> 01:10:34,470 about halfway through John Paul ii papacy, 1460 01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:38,170 bolshevik communism, atheistic Soviet communism collapse, 1461 01:10:38,170 --> 01:10:41,200 which these two men tried to force that to happen. 1462 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,210 And so they would see all of this 1463 01:10:43,210 --> 01:10:45,970 as a big, long battle of the 20th century 1464 01:10:45,970 --> 01:10:48,840 within the divine plan, the divine scheme of things. 1465 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,110 - [Peter] And those under the totalitarian states 1466 01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:54,520 still held at gunpoint would gain strength 1467 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,563 in the light of the western promise of freedom. 1468 01:10:57,563 --> 01:10:59,980 (Soft music) 1469 01:11:06,540 --> 01:11:09,160 - [Peter] Together Ronald Reagan and John Paul ii 1470 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,580 acted to fight what they considered evil. 1471 01:11:12,580 --> 01:11:16,040 They met last at the Vatican in September 1990 1472 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,420 near castel gandolfo. 1473 01:11:18,420 --> 01:11:20,930 It was to be their last meeting 1474 01:11:21,790 --> 01:11:25,630 which Nancy Reagan described as warm and wonderful. 1475 01:11:25,630 --> 01:11:27,140 Reagan was already slipping 1476 01:11:27,140 --> 01:11:29,760 into the dim world of Alzheimer's. 1477 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,320 Finally, not even remembering 1478 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,480 that he had been president of the United States. 1479 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:37,673 The pope began declining from Parkinson's disease. 1480 01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:41,310 But a certain stage presence was still evident 1481 01:11:41,310 --> 01:11:43,390 in these two former actors, 1482 01:11:43,390 --> 01:11:46,750 even is human frailty would slowly take over, 1483 01:11:46,750 --> 01:11:48,200 they had to lean on others 1484 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,583 as they continued to depend on their faith. 1485 01:11:51,770 --> 01:11:54,220 - From the first, then, our nation embraced the belief 1486 01:11:54,220 --> 01:11:55,930 that the individual is sacred 1487 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,520 and that as god himself respects human Liberty, 1488 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,563 so, too, must the state. 1489 01:12:04,940 --> 01:12:08,700 - From the beginning of america, freedom was directed 1490 01:12:09,897 --> 01:12:12,460 to forming a well-ordered society 1491 01:12:13,599 --> 01:12:16,923 and to promoting its peaceful life. 1492 01:12:18,540 --> 01:12:22,603 Freedom was channeled to the fullness of human life, 1493 01:12:23,695 --> 01:12:25,495 to the preservation of human dignity 1494 01:12:26,590 --> 01:12:30,433 and the safeguarding of human rights. 1495 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,740 - God wants to draw, awaken, and enhance freedom 1496 01:12:35,740 --> 01:12:37,860 in such a way that his grace 1497 01:12:37,860 --> 01:12:39,803 can operate more fully in the world. 1498 01:12:41,190 --> 01:12:43,500 That's the discernment of the divine plan, 1499 01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:46,540 I think as both John Paul and Ronald Reagan saw it. 1500 01:12:46,540 --> 01:12:50,050 - God is intimately involved in human history 1501 01:12:50,050 --> 01:12:54,230 and one of the ways that he most brings about his will, 1502 01:12:54,230 --> 01:12:59,230 often imperceptibly, and always taking a long period of time 1503 01:12:59,810 --> 01:13:04,130 would be in the cultivation of wise leaders. 1504 01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:07,340 - Which is good for the world, 1505 01:13:07,340 --> 01:13:09,940 and it's good for those whom god raises up 1506 01:13:09,940 --> 01:13:11,470 because the more they surrender to him, 1507 01:13:11,470 --> 01:13:13,490 the more they become themselves. 1508 01:13:13,490 --> 01:13:16,220 - [Peter] In 2004, president George w bush 1509 01:13:16,220 --> 01:13:19,120 presented the pope with the presidential medal of freedom. 1510 01:13:19,980 --> 01:13:23,830 Barely able to speak, John Paul ii thanked president bush 1511 01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:25,960 and asked him to send my regards 1512 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,083 to President Reagan and Mrs. Reagan. 1513 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,503 Reagan died the next day on June 5th. 1514 01:13:34,417 --> 01:13:36,834 (Soft music) 1515 01:13:38,290 --> 01:13:41,860 - I can put it no better than Mrs. Thatcher 1516 01:13:41,860 --> 01:13:45,163 in her eulogy to Ronald Reagan which she said, 1517 01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:50,580 we have one advantage 1518 01:13:52,060 --> 01:13:53,963 that Ronald Reagan never had. 1519 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,577 We have his example. 1520 01:13:58,577 --> 01:14:00,994 (Soft music) 1521 01:14:02,210 --> 01:14:06,127 - [Peter] Less than a year later in April, the pope died. 1522 01:14:06,127 --> 01:14:08,580 (Soft music) 1523 01:14:08,580 --> 01:14:10,700 - All of those lessons and teachings 1524 01:14:10,700 --> 01:14:12,963 and homilies of John Paul ii, 1525 01:14:13,820 --> 01:14:15,980 they really matters, his words matters, 1526 01:14:15,980 --> 01:14:17,600 his uniqueness matters. 1527 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,600 I feel by heart that people are really hungry of wisdom, 1528 01:14:24,430 --> 01:14:26,840 of words, of presence, of gestures, 1529 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,703 of smile of John Paul ii. 1530 01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:34,340 - They both symbolized, they both represented, 1531 01:14:34,340 --> 01:14:37,480 they both worked for this single set of beliefs 1532 01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:39,500 that greater freedom, 1533 01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:41,460 greater acknowledgement of human dignity 1534 01:14:41,460 --> 01:14:43,000 is really important. 1535 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,020 It turns out that their side won, 1536 01:14:46,020 --> 01:14:48,470 at least as of the early 1990s, 1537 01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:50,213 but it's an ongoing struggle. 1538 01:14:51,450 --> 01:14:54,370 - [Peter] On June 27th, 2011, 1539 01:14:54,370 --> 01:14:57,070 in a Thanksgiving mass for blessed John Paul ii 1540 01:14:57,070 --> 01:14:59,770 and for the late President Ronald Reagan, 1541 01:14:59,770 --> 01:15:01,630 cardinal stanislaw dziwisz, 1542 01:15:01,630 --> 01:15:06,185 who in 1981 held the wounded pope in his arms said, 1543 01:15:06,185 --> 01:15:08,957 "this world is a battlefield of good and evil, 1544 01:15:08,957 --> 01:15:10,837 "truth and falsehood. 1545 01:15:10,837 --> 01:15:13,117 "Each of US faces a choice. 1546 01:15:13,117 --> 01:15:15,247 "Today we recall two great men 1547 01:15:15,247 --> 01:15:17,807 "who stood before this very choice, 1548 01:15:17,807 --> 01:15:21,830 "and how their decision shaped the world in which we live." 1549 01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:23,950 - [Peter] It was a reminder that the two leaders, 1550 01:15:23,950 --> 01:15:27,220 overcoming fears and doubts, made hard choices 1551 01:15:27,220 --> 01:15:30,423 that reflected their deepest convictions and beliefs. 1552 01:15:31,410 --> 01:15:34,330 - But whether you're Christian or not, 1553 01:15:34,330 --> 01:15:39,330 John Paul ii thought you could understand the notion 1554 01:15:40,090 --> 01:15:45,090 that there is divine purpose at work in human affairs. 1555 01:15:45,130 --> 01:15:48,410 The task of conscience is to determine 1556 01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:51,180 what that divine purpose is, 1557 01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:55,729 and then to live it out irrespective of the cost. 1558 01:15:55,729 --> 01:15:58,146 (Soft music) 1559 01:16:02,530 --> 01:16:04,490 - I think of Walt Whitman's poem, you know, 1560 01:16:04,490 --> 01:16:07,450 and the lines about the powerful play goes on, 1561 01:16:07,450 --> 01:16:09,410 and you might contribute a verse. 1562 01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:11,360 And so you think of these two figures 1563 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,074 and the powerful verse they contributed was 1564 01:16:14,074 --> 01:16:16,740 to speak this truth and then actively 1565 01:16:16,740 --> 01:16:18,830 to engage in the struggle. 1566 01:16:18,830 --> 01:16:20,270 And that's no small thing. 1567 01:16:20,270 --> 01:16:21,990 - [Peter] Shakespeare would conclude 1568 01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:23,830 all the world's a stage 1569 01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:26,340 and all the men and women merely players. 1570 01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:28,900 They have their exits and their entrances 1571 01:16:28,900 --> 01:16:32,890 and one man in his time plays many parts. 1572 01:16:32,890 --> 01:16:36,697 - [Man] In the famous words of pope Saint John Paul ii, 1573 01:16:36,697 --> 01:16:40,997 "a coincidence is what a believer calls divine Providence." 1574 01:16:42,980 --> 01:16:44,853 - [Peter] O me, o life? 1575 01:16:45,730 --> 01:16:50,730 That you are here - that life exists and identity, 1576 01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:53,460 that the powerful play goes on, 1577 01:16:53,460 --> 01:16:56,490 and you may contribute a verse. 1578 01:16:56,490 --> 01:16:59,861 Walt Whitman, o me! O life! 1579 01:16:59,861 --> 01:17:02,278 (Soft music) 1580 01:17:11,642 --> 01:17:14,725 (Contemporary music) 119290

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