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(phone: line ringing)

(phone: line ringing)

(voices on phone talking, overlapping)

(voices on phone talking, overlapping)

-WOMAN: Hello? -(voices continue overlapping)

-WOMAN: Hello? -(voices continue overlapping)

WOMAN #2: Okay. I'll be outside.

WOMAN #2: Okay. I'll be outside.

(voices chattering, overlapping)

(voices chattering, overlapping)

(overlapping chattering continues)

(overlapping chattering continues)

So?

This is the only alligator.

So?

This is the only alligator.

Four minutes past. We walk in one minute. He was clear on that.

Four minutes past. We walk in one minute. He was clear on that.

He's coming.

He's coming.

No. He's too young to have that kind of access.

No. He's too young to have that kind of access.

Uh... wh-what time does the restaurant open?

Uh... wh-what time does the restaurant open?

Noon. But the food's a little too spicy.

Noon. But the food's a little too spicy.

This way.

This way.

Excuse me.

Uh-huh.

Excuse me.

Uh-huh.

Thank you.

Thank you.

(elevator bell dings)

(elevator bell dings)

Right here.

Right here.

(beeps)

(beeps)

(man, woman shouting, laughing)

(man, woman shouting, laughing)

(sighs) It's, uh...

(sighs) It's, uh...

really great to finally meet you guys.

really great to finally meet you guys.

So, first thing, can I get your cell phones, please?

So, first thing, can I get your cell phones, please?

Thank you.

Thank you.

We want Laura to be the only one recording, right? As discussed?

We want Laura to be the only one recording, right? As discussed?

Thank you.

Thank you.

I actually bought this. It blocks UHF frequencies.

I actually bought this. It blocks UHF frequencies.

You've been photographed before, right?

You've been photographed before, right?

Yeah, it's been a while since anybody took a photo of me, so...

Yeah, it's been a while since anybody took a photo of me, so...

Try thinking of this as your friend.

Try thinking of this as your friend.

-(exhales) -Take your time.

-(exhales) -Take your time.

Um...

Um...

can you start by telling us why you did what you did

can you start by telling us why you did what you did

and, uh, how you gained access to such a vast amount of information,

and, uh, how you gained access to such a vast amount of information,

all of which I read on the plane, um, and...

all of which I read on the plane, um, and...

Glenn.

Glenn.

Uh, how about we just start with your name? Okay?

Uh, how about we just start with your name? Okay?

My name is Edward Joseph Snowden.

My name is Edward Joseph Snowden.

ED: I'm 29 years old.

ED: I'm 29 years old.

I work as a private contractor for the NSA.

I work as a private contractor for the NSA.

I've also worked as a private contractor for the CIA and directly for the Agency.

I've also worked as a private contractor for the CIA and directly for the Agency.

(soldiers chanting)

(soldiers chanting)

I've worked in various jobs in the intelligence industry for the last nine years.

I've worked in various jobs in the intelligence industry for the last nine years.

I've been a systems engineer, uh, been a solutions consultant,

I've been a systems engineer, uh, been a solutions consultant,

uh, and a senior adviser for the Central Intelligence Agency.

uh, and a senior adviser for the Central Intelligence Agency.

(chanting continues)

(chanting continues)

-SERGEANT: So you wanna be special forces? -SOLDIERS: Sir, yes, sir!

-SERGEANT: So you wanna be special forces? -SOLDIERS: Sir, yes, sir!

I think special forces would be ashamed to call you soldiers!

I think special forces would be ashamed to call you soldiers!

Am I right?

Sir, no, sir!

Am I right?

Sir, no, sir!

SERGEANT: Your left!

SERGEANT: Your left!

Your left, right!

Your left, right!

Your left!

Your left!

SERGEANT: ♪ Went from driving Cadillacs ♪

SERGEANT: ♪ Went from driving Cadillacs ♪

SOLDIERS: ♪ Went from driving Cadillacs ♪

SOLDIERS: ♪ Went from driving Cadillacs ♪

SERGEANT: ♪ To driving convoys in Iraq ♪

SERGEANT: ♪ To driving convoys in Iraq ♪

SOLDIERS: ♪ To driving convoys in Iraq ♪

SOLDIERS: ♪ To driving convoys in Iraq ♪

SERGEANT: Move it, soldier!

(shouting, grunting)

SERGEANT: Move it, soldier!

(shouting, grunting)

Let's go! Go! Move now!

Let's go! Go! Move now!

(shouting continues)

(shouting continues)

SERGEANT: Pick it up, you waste of space!

SERGEANT: Pick it up, you waste of space!

Get up there! Move!

Get up there! Move!

Come on, soldier! Let's go!

Come on, soldier! Let's go!

Phillips!

Come on, darlin'!

Phillips!

Come on, darlin'!

(grunting)

(grunting)

Snowden! What the hell are you doing?

Nothing, sir!

Snowden! What the hell are you doing?

Nothing, sir!

Where's your fucking heart?

Right here, sir!

Where's your fucking heart?

Right here, sir!

I want you to reach down in that pathetic excuse of a chest, and you rip it out.

I want you to reach down in that pathetic excuse of a chest, and you rip it out.

You find your heart, and then you get your broke ass on my tower!

You find your heart, and then you get your broke ass on my tower!

You got that?

Sir, yes, sir!

You got that?

Sir, yes, sir!

Now get the fuck out of my face!

Now get the fuck out of my face!

I need you on my tower, gentlemen! Let's move!

I need you on my tower, gentlemen! Let's move!

Move! Move! Let's go!

Move! Move! Let's go!

Rise and shine, maggots!

Rise and shine, maggots!

Get your hands off your dicks, and get the fuck out of my barracks!

Get your hands off your dicks, and get the fuck out of my barracks!

You guys got one minute! Fall out! Move, move, move!

You guys got one minute! Fall out! Move, move, move!

Get the hell outta here!

Get the hell outta here!

-(groaning) -Fall out! Get moving! Let's go!

-(groaning) -Fall out! Get moving! Let's go!

-All right, gentlemen! Attention! -SOLDIERS (in unison): Huh!

-All right, gentlemen! Attention! -SOLDIERS (in unison): Huh!

(grunting, groaning)

(sergeant shouting roll)

(grunting, groaning)

(sergeant shouting roll)

Fuck!

Fuck!

Help!

SERGEANT: Snowden!

Help!

SERGEANT: Snowden!

Snowden!

Snowden!

Where the fuck is Snowden?

Help!

Where the fuck is Snowden?

Help!

(groans)

(groans)

You know, you've been walking around on two broken legs,

You know, you've been walking around on two broken legs,

best I can tell, for weeks.

best I can tell, for weeks.

Now, this is what happens when you put an 80-pound rucksack on a 150-pound body.

Now, this is what happens when you put an 80-pound rucksack on a 150-pound body.

-You get these little stress fractures-- -(winces) Ah!

-You get these little stress fractures-- -(winces) Ah!

Easy.

Sorry.

Easy.

Sorry.

They build up in your tibias.

They build up in your tibias.

You don't get off of 'em, and eventually they just bust.

You don't get off of 'em, and eventually they just bust.

Now, you're gonna be here for a few weeks,

Now, you're gonna be here for a few weeks,

and then I'd count on another eight weeks or so on the crutches.

and then I'd count on another eight weeks or so on the crutches.

Okay. And then when do I go back?

Okay. And then when do I go back?

Son, you ever again land on those legs of yours, airborne or not,

Son, you ever again land on those legs of yours, airborne or not,

those bones will turn to powder.

those bones will turn to powder.

I'm gonna authorize an administrative discharge.

I'm gonna authorize an administrative discharge.

Plenty other ways to serve your country.

Plenty other ways to serve your country.

(beeps)

(beeps)

WOMAN: Have you ever committed a crime for which you weren't caught?

WOMAN: Have you ever committed a crime for which you weren't caught?

No.

(faint beeping)

No.

(faint beeping)

WOMAN: Have you ever cheated on an exam?

WOMAN: Have you ever cheated on an exam?

No.

No.

(beeps)

(beeps)

Do you believe the United States is the greatest country in the world?

Do you believe the United States is the greatest country in the world?

Yes.

Yes.

MAN: Why do you want to join the CIA?

MAN: Why do you want to join the CIA?

MAN #2: How would you explain the Internet to a child?

MAN #2: How would you explain the Internet to a child?

MAN: Granddad retired as an admiral and joined the FBI.

MAN: Granddad retired as an admiral and joined the FBI.

Dad's in the Coast Guard-- 30-year man.

Dad's in the Coast Guard-- 30-year man.

MAN #2: What has been the most important day in your life?

MAN #2: What has been the most important day in your life?

9/11.

9/11.

We thought my grandfather was inside the Pentagon.

We thought my grandfather was inside the Pentagon.

Uh, turned out he was off-site that day.

Uh, turned out he was off-site that day.

MAN: You wanted to be special forces?

MAN: You wanted to be special forces?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Yeah, I, uh-- I love their motto-- De oppresso liber.

Yeah, I, uh-- I love their motto-- De oppresso liber.

Is that what you hope to do with us? Free people from oppression?

Is that what you hope to do with us? Free people from oppression?

I'd like to help my country make a difference in the world.

I'd like to help my country make a difference in the world.

Uh, the Internet is a technology...

Uh, the Internet is a technology...

that has the power to let everyone in the world understand each other.

that has the power to let everyone in the world understand each other.

Missed a perfect score on the ASVAB test by a single question.

Missed a perfect score on the ASVAB test by a single question.

Crushed the language learning test.

Crushed the language learning test.

Some Mandarin, some Japanese.

Some Mandarin, some Japanese.

And no high school diploma.

And no high school diploma.

So why did you stop attending high school?

So why did you stop attending high school?

I had to make money. My parents were divorcing at the time.

I had to make money. My parents were divorcing at the time.

Any other influences?

Any other influences?

I'd say Joseph Campbell,

I'd say Joseph Campbell,

Star Wars, Thoreau,

Star Wars, Thoreau,

Ayn Rand.

Ayn Rand.

"One man can stop the motor of the world."

"One man can stop the motor of the world."

Atlas Shrugged.

Yes, sir. I believe that.

Atlas Shrugged.

Yes, sir. I believe that.

Let's try again.

Let's try again.

Why do you want to join the CIA?

Why do you want to join the CIA?

Uh...

Uh...

well, frankly, sir,

well, frankly, sir,

it sounds really cool to have top security clearance.

it sounds really cool to have top security clearance.

Hmm.

Hmm.

It's not enough.

It's not enough.

Ordinarily.

Ordinarily.

But these are not ordinary times.

But these are not ordinary times.

Bombs won't stop terrorism. Brains will.

Bombs won't stop terrorism. Brains will.

And we don't have nearly enough of those.

And we don't have nearly enough of those.

I'm gonna give you a shot, Snowden.

I'm gonna give you a shot, Snowden.

Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. You won't regret this.

Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. You won't regret this.

My name's Corbin O'Brian.

My name's Corbin O'Brian.

I have many titles, among them "senior instructor."

I have many titles, among them "senior instructor."

O'BRIAN: You'll be joining my class at the Hill.

O'BRIAN: You'll be joining my class at the Hill.

Stop the vehicle. Shut off the engine.

Stop the vehicle. Shut off the engine.

(engine stops)

(engine stops)

I need to see your ID.

I need to see your ID.

(barks)

(barks)

All right. Using your left hand only, pop the trunk.

All right. Using your left hand only, pop the trunk.

Now place your hands through the steering wheel on the dashboard.

Now place your hands through the steering wheel on the dashboard.

Through the steering wheel.

Through the steering wheel.

On the dashboard.

On the dashboard.

Do not exit the vehicle.

Do not exit the vehicle.

MAN: Right here. Right here.

MAN: Right here. Right here.

(dog barking)

(dog barking)

Excuse me.

You'll be looking for Corbin's class.

Excuse me.

You'll be looking for Corbin's class.

End of the hall. Keep going through the second set of doors.

End of the hall. Keep going through the second set of doors.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Is that an Enigma?

Is that an Enigma?

No. Enigma was broken.

No. Enigma was broken.

This is the follow-up, the SIGABA. Never broken.

This is the follow-up, the SIGABA. Never broken.

Cold War's greatest encryption machine.

Cold War's greatest encryption machine.

Tides of history ticked with this motor and these rotors.

Tides of history ticked with this motor and these rotors.

One day everyone's gonna want a machine like this.

One day everyone's gonna want a machine like this.

Wow. I-I always wanted to learn cryptography.

Wow. I-I always wanted to learn cryptography.

-What's this one? -The hot line.

-What's this one? -The hot line.

First direct link between Washington and Moscow.

First direct link between Washington and Moscow.

Probably prevented World War III.

Probably prevented World War III.

You got a name? How do I know you're not the enemy?

You got a name? How do I know you're not the enemy?

Oh, sorry. Uh, Snowden. Ed Snowden.

Hank Forrester.

Oh, sorry. Uh, Snowden. Ed Snowden.

Hank Forrester.

Where'd you study, Snowden?

Where'd you study, Snowden?

Mostly I'm, uh... I'm self-taught.

Mostly I'm, uh... I'm self-taught.

You can tell me if you're busy, but is that a Cray-1?

You can tell me if you're busy, but is that a Cray-1?

Why, yes. Yes, it is.

Why, yes. Yes, it is.

The first supercomputer.

The first supercomputer.

-You can get all of this on a cell phone now. -Yeah.

-You can get all of this on a cell phone now. -Yeah.

So you're, um, an engineer?

So you're, um, an engineer?

Am I an engineer?

Am I an engineer?

Instructor and counselor too.

Instructor and counselor too.

I'm supposed to keep an eye on you CTs,

I'm supposed to keep an eye on you CTs,

make sure you don't buckle under the pressure, turn to drugs and booze.

make sure you don't buckle under the pressure, turn to drugs and booze.

Well, you won't have, uh, that problem with me.

Well, you won't have, uh, that problem with me.

I don't drink or do drugs.

What is your sin of choice?

I don't drink or do drugs.

What is your sin of choice?

Uh... computers.

Uh... computers.

Well, then, Snowden, you've come to the right little whorehouse.

Well, then, Snowden, you've come to the right little whorehouse.

The front lines in the global war on terror are not in Iraq or Afghanistan.

The front lines in the global war on terror are not in Iraq or Afghanistan.

They're here,

They're here,

and in London,

and in London,

Berlin,

Berlin,

Istanbul.

Istanbul.

Any server, any connection.

Any server, any connection.

The modern battlefield...

The modern battlefield...

is everywhere.

is everywhere.

Which means

Which means

you don't have to sit in a ditch, eating MREs or dodging mortar fire.

you don't have to sit in a ditch, eating MREs or dodging mortar fire.

It means that if there is another 9/11,

It means that if there is another 9/11,

it'll be your fault.

it'll be your fault.

Just as the last one was my generation's.

Just as the last one was my generation's.

Believe me, you do not want to live with that burden.

Believe me, you do not want to live with that burden.

We're gonna start with an aptitude test.

We're gonna start with an aptitude test.

Each of you is gonna build a covert communications network in your home city.

Each of you is gonna build a covert communications network in your home city.

(typing)

(typing)

You're gonna deploy it, back up your site, destroy it

You're gonna deploy it, back up your site, destroy it

and restore it again.

and restore it again.

The point of this exercise is to keep your infrastructure up and running securely.

The point of this exercise is to keep your infrastructure up and running securely.

The average test time is five hours.

The average test time is five hours.

If you take more than eight, you will fail.

If you take more than eight, you will fail.

-♪♪ (techno dance) -♪ Hold up ♪

-♪♪ (techno dance) -♪ Hold up ♪

♪ Hold up, hold up ♪

♪ Hold up, hold up ♪

♪ Hold up ♪

♪ Hold up ♪

♪ Hold up ♪

♪ Hold up ♪

♪♪ (continues)

♪♪ (continues)

♪♪ (ends)

♪♪ (ends)

(chair squeaks)

(chair squeaks)

Mr. O'Brian?

Mr. O'Brian?

I'm done, sir.

I'm done, sir.

You don't have to tell me when you've completed a stage.

You don't have to tell me when you've completed a stage.

No, I, uh, finished the whole thing.

No, I, uh, finished the whole thing.

It's been 40 minutes.

Thirty-eight.

It's been 40 minutes.

Thirty-eight.

What?

What?

Thirty-eight minutes.

Thirty-eight minutes.

Okay. Let's see where you screwed up.

Okay. Let's see where you screwed up.

(computer beeping)

(computer beeping)

You didn't say we had to do it in order, sir.

You didn't say we had to do it in order, sir.

So I, uh-- I broke the sequence to save time

So I, uh-- I broke the sequence to save time

and I automated the backup process to run as I built the site.

and I automated the backup process to run as I built the site.

Eyes on screens.

Eyes on screens.

(typing)

(typing)

Sir?

Sir?

What should I do now?

What should I do now?

Whatever you want.

Whatever you want.

(chattering, laughing)

(chattering, laughing)

(shutter clicks)

(shutter clicks)

Hey.

Hi.

Hey.

Hi.

Finally.

Yeah.

Finally.

Yeah.

Um, sorry.

Um, sorry.

Do you want, um... anything?

Do you want, um... anything?

No. Let's go for a walk.

No. Let's go for a walk.

You could use some sun.

You could use some sun.

Yeah. (chuckles)

Yeah. (chuckles)

You mentioned that earlier.

You mentioned that earlier.

Sorry it, uh, took me this long. I just...

Sorry it, uh, took me this long. I just...

You didn't want to see me on crutches.

You didn't want to see me on crutches.

(shutter clicks)

I was not so agile.

(shutter clicks)

I was not so agile.

Then this new job hit--

Oh, yeah. What was it you were doing again?

Then this new job hit--

Oh, yeah. What was it you were doing again?

I'm doing analysis for the State Department.

I'm doing analysis for the State Department.

Oh, right. Congratulations.

Thanks.

Oh, right. Congratulations.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Can you do me a favor and point in the direction of the State Department?

Can you do me a favor and point in the direction of the State Department?

Uh...

Uh...

Yeah, it's-it's that way.

(shutter clicks)

Yeah, it's-it's that way.

(shutter clicks)

-Where? Are you sure? -(shutter clicks)

-Where? Are you sure? -(shutter clicks)

I mean, I'm not that great at orienting myself.

I mean, I'm not that great at orienting myself.

Not that great at lying either.

Not that great at lying either.

Gonna have to work on both if you wanna be a spy.

Gonna have to work on both if you wanna be a spy.

(chuckles)

(chuckles)

Where I came from, everyone's parents worked for the State Department.

Where I came from, everyone's parents worked for the State Department.

Plus, every time you visited my Web site this week, which was quite often,

Plus, every time you visited my Web site this week, which was quite often,

it was from an IP in Virginia.

it was from an IP in Virginia.

You know how to run an IP trace?

Yeah.

You know how to run an IP trace?

Yeah.

I'm pretty sure that the State Department has no offices in Virginia.

I'm pretty sure that the State Department has no offices in Virginia.

(Ed chuckles)

Huh?

(Ed chuckles)

Huh?

(shutter clicks)

(shutter clicks)

All right, let's see you strut it.

All right, let's see you strut it.

Let's see what?

Let's see you strut it.

Let's see what?

Let's see you strut it.

Show me what you got, you know. Your best catwalk.

Show me what you got, you know. Your best catwalk.

Don't be shy.

Don't be shy.

Uh--

Come on. You got this.

Uh--

Come on. You got this.

(shutter clicks)

(shutter clicks)

(laughing)

(laughing)

I don't know. (laughs)

I don't know. (laughs)

CROWD (chanting): Drop Bush, not bombs! Drop Bush, not bombs!

CROWD (chanting): Drop Bush, not bombs! Drop Bush, not bombs!

Drop Bush, not bombs!

Drop Bush, not bombs!

Would you mind signing our petition, please?

Yes, absolutely.

Would you mind signing our petition, please?

Yes, absolutely.

(shouting, chanting continues)

Thank you.

(shouting, chanting continues)

Thank you.

Thank you so much. Sir?

No, thank you.

Thank you so much. Sir?

No, thank you.

MAN: What do we want?

(protesters shouting)

MAN: What do we want?

(protesters shouting)

When do we want it?

Now!

When do we want it?

Now!

Excuse me. Would you like to sign?

I just signed.

Excuse me. Would you like to sign?

I just signed.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Too much independent spirit for you?

Too much independent spirit for you?

Uh, no, I just don't really like bashing my country.

Uh, no, I just don't really like bashing my country.

It's my country too, and right now it has blood on its hands.

It's my country too, and right now it has blood on its hands.

(sighs)

(sighs)

Sorry, I just-- I have friends who are over there right now.

Sorry, I just-- I have friends who are over there right now.

I'm not talking about the troops.

I'm not talking about the troops.

I'm talking about the moron sending them to war.

I'm talking about the moron sending them to war.

Mor... You mean our commander-in-chief?

Mor... You mean our commander-in-chief?

Yeah, whatever you want to call him. He's still wrong.

Yeah, whatever you want to call him. He's still wrong.

How do you know he's wrong? You're just lashing out.

How do you know he's wrong? You're just lashing out.

I'm not lashing out. I'm questioning our government.

I'm not lashing out. I'm questioning our government.

That's what we do in this country.

That's what we do in this country.

That is the principle we are founded on.

That is the principle we are founded on.

Okay, but how about questioning the liberal media?

Okay, but how about questioning the liberal media?

I mean, you're just buying into what one side is saying.

I mean, you're just buying into what one side is saying.

Maybe I am, 'cause my side is right.

Maybe I am, 'cause my side is right.

(laughing)

See, that's funny, 'cause my side's right.

(laughing)

See, that's funny, 'cause my side's right.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Huh. (laughs)

Huh. (laughs)

Why is it smart conservatives always make me so mad?

Why is it smart conservatives always make me so mad?

Probably 'cause you don't like hearing the truth.

Probably 'cause you don't like hearing the truth.

You are a very frustrating individual. You know that?

You are a very frustrating individual. You know that?

How am I gonna make you see?

How am I gonna make you see?

I can see just fine, thank you.

I can see just fine, thank you.

That help at all?

That help at all?

Nope. No, that did, uh, nothing for me.

Nope. No, that did, uh, nothing for me.

Tastes like liberal.

(laughs)

Tastes like liberal.

(laughs)

It's not my thing.

It's not my thing.

O'BRIAN: "Bush lets US spy on callers without courts."

O'BRIAN: "Bush lets US spy on callers without courts."

Is it constitutional to bypass the courts?

Is it constitutional to bypass the courts?

No. The Fourth Amendment prevents searches and seizures without a warrant.

No. The Fourth Amendment prevents searches and seizures without a warrant.

That's absolutely right, Rio.

That's absolutely right, Rio.

Which means your commander-in-chief,

Which means your commander-in-chief,

the president of the United States,

the president of the United States,

is breaking the law.

is breaking the law.

That is what you're saying, isn't it, Rio?

That is what you're saying, isn't it, Rio?

Well, I guess it depends

Well, I guess it depends

on, uh, who you talk to.

on, uh, who you talk to.

O'BRIAN: And if you talk to journalists

O'BRIAN: And if you talk to journalists

who, more often than not, don't have the full picture

who, more often than not, don't have the full picture

or neglect to report it,

or neglect to report it,

you only get a partial truth.

you only get a partial truth.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

The FISA court.

The FISA court.

We do respect the Fourth Amendment in this country

We do respect the Fourth Amendment in this country

and we issue warrants based on suspicion.

and we issue warrants based on suspicion.

But sometimes these warrants have to be issued by secret courts

But sometimes these warrants have to be issued by secret courts

so we don't alert the suspects we're spying on.

so we don't alert the suspects we're spying on.

And these court proceedings are classified,

And these court proceedings are classified,

which means-- surprise--

which means-- surprise--

they don't appear in papers such as the New York Times.

they don't appear in papers such as the New York Times.

-ED: Did you see my test scores? -HANK: Yes. Top of my class. Like you.

-ED: Did you see my test scores? -HANK: Yes. Top of my class. Like you.

What, here?

NSA.

What, here?

NSA.

They liked me plenty. They put me on all the best teams.

They liked me plenty. They put me on all the best teams.

Soviet frontier. Desert Storm.

Soviet frontier. Desert Storm.

And then the big new challenge-- find the terrorist in the Internet haystack.

And then the big new challenge-- find the terrorist in the Internet haystack.

Hell of a haystack. Hundreds of terabytes a minute.

Hell of a haystack. Hundreds of terabytes a minute.

I mean, it would take you 400 years to read the e-mails.

I mean, it would take you 400 years to read the e-mails.

Then you have to analyze them.

Then you have to analyze them.

Sometimes the more you look, the less you see.

Sometimes the more you look, the less you see.

What'd you come up with?

Something beautiful.

What'd you come up with?

Something beautiful.

In house. For three million dollars.

In house. For three million dollars.

A program that could differentiate between foreign and domestic,

A program that could differentiate between foreign and domestic,

encrypt every signal we weren't targeting so it would remain private.

encrypt every signal we weren't targeting so it would remain private.

It was elegant, streamlined.

It was elegant, streamlined.

It was the best work I ever did.

It was the best work I ever did.

Have a seat.

Have a seat.

What was it called?

What was it called?

Ed, rising to the top

Ed, rising to the top

in our world

in our world

can sometimes be hard on a man.

can sometimes be hard on a man.

I mean,

I mean,

you think you're making strides,

you think you're making strides,

you think you're taking the initiative.

you think you're taking the initiative.

And then the next minute they grind your work out of existence.

And then the next minute they grind your work out of existence.

They didn't use it? Why not?

They didn't use it? Why not?

Well, they never tell you why.

Well, they never tell you why.

Two years later, after 9/11,

Two years later, after 9/11,

a friend of mine tells me about this new contractor program they're using.

a friend of mine tells me about this new contractor program they're using.

Costs four billion dollars to deploy.

Costs four billion dollars to deploy.

Modeled after mine,

Modeled after mine,

but with no filters, no automation.

but with no filters, no automation.

Ingested everything.

Ingested everything.

They were drowning in data. It was a fucking disaster.

They were drowning in data. It was a fucking disaster.

Okay, but there must have been some bigger picture, right?

Okay, but there must have been some bigger picture, right?

I mean, spending that kind of money? They're not stupid.

I mean, spending that kind of money? They're not stupid.

You would think intelligence would count for something in the intelligence business.

You would think intelligence would count for something in the intelligence business.

Right.

Right.

But you wanna know what it really is?

But you wanna know what it really is?

What really sets the agenda?

What really sets the agenda?

Military-industrial happiness management.

Military-industrial happiness management.

You keep the coffers open in Congress,

You keep the coffers open in Congress,

you keep the money flowing to the contractors.

you keep the money flowing to the contractors.

Efficiency? Results? They go out the window.

Efficiency? Results? They go out the window.

Not to mention...

Not to mention...

All right.

All right.

Well, you're late for class.

Well, you're late for class.

Okay. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you.

Oh, can I take another one?

Sure.

Oh, can I take another one?

Sure.

Did you ever say anything to anybody?

Did you ever say anything to anybody?

Yeah. I went to Legal.

Yeah. I went to Legal.

We filed complaints.

We filed complaints.

Now here I am, tucked away, teaching you.

Now here I am, tucked away, teaching you.

Maybe that's more important, in the long run.

Maybe that's more important, in the long run.

You're getting better.

You're getting better.

(door closes)

(door closes)

My favorite spot on campus.

My favorite spot on campus.

You hunt, Ed?

You hunt, Ed?

Uh...

Uh...

did some skeet shooting with my dad a few times.

did some skeet shooting with my dad a few times.

But no, I never went hunting.

But no, I never went hunting.

We'll go one day.

That'd be great.

We'll go one day.

That'd be great.

Mr. O'Brian, can I ask you a question?

Mr. O'Brian, can I ask you a question?

How about just calling me Corbin?

How about just calling me Corbin?

Okay. Thank you, sir.

Okay. Thank you, sir.

Uh, Corbin, um,

Uh, Corbin, um,

I was talking with Hank Forrester and, uh, I wanted to know,

I was talking with Hank Forrester and, uh, I wanted to know,

are all of our SIGINT programs specifically targeted?

are all of our SIGINT programs specifically targeted?

Of course. What good would they be if they weren't?

Of course. What good would they be if they weren't?

Hmm?

Hmm?

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know.

You have a girlfriend, Ed?

You have a girlfriend, Ed?

Uh, nothing serious.

What's her name?

Uh, nothing serious.

What's her name?

Lindsay.

Lindsay.

Lindsay.

Lindsay.

She going with you?

She going with you?

No. I-I wouldn't want to put her in any danger.

No. I-I wouldn't want to put her in any danger.

Well, you won't have to. We're not sending you to the Middle East.

Well, you won't have to. We're not sending you to the Middle East.

(stammers) Sir, I-- I'm your best student.

(stammers) Sir, I-- I'm your best student.

Doesn't that count for something?

Doesn't that count for something?

In 20 years, Iraq'll be a hellhole nobody cares about.

In 20 years, Iraq'll be a hellhole nobody cares about.

Terrorism's a short-term threat.

Terrorism's a short-term threat.

The real threats will come from China, Russia, Iran,

The real threats will come from China, Russia, Iran,

and they'll come as SQL injections and malware.

and they'll come as SQL injections and malware.

Without minds like yours, this country will be torn apart in cyberspace.

Without minds like yours, this country will be torn apart in cyberspace.

I don't want to risk losing you for some horseshit war over sand and oil.

I don't want to risk losing you for some horseshit war over sand and oil.

Sir, I'm surprised to hear you say that.

Sir, I'm surprised to hear you say that.

You don't have to agree with your politicians to be a patriot.

You don't have to agree with your politicians to be a patriot.

(phone ringing)

(phone ringing)

Sir, where are you sending me?

Take a moment.

Sir, where are you sending me?

Take a moment.

Enjoy the view.

Enjoy the view.

Hey.

Hey.

(sirens wailing)

(voices on phones, overlapping)

(sirens wailing)

(voices on phones, overlapping)

(knocking)

(knocking)

This is Laura.

This is Laura.

Hello.

MAN: Hello. Nice to meet you.

Hello.

MAN: Hello. Nice to meet you.

Hello, I'm Ewen MacAskill from The Guardian.

Hello, I'm Ewen MacAskill from The Guardian.

It's nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you too.

It's nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you too.

Um, if you don't mind, uh, I'd like to record some of...

Um, if you don't mind, uh, I'd like to record some of...

Uh...

Uh...

-Cell phones go in the microwave. -Dare I ask why?

-Cell phones go in the microwave. -Dare I ask why?

We'll get to that, after you ask your questions.

We'll get to that, after you ask your questions.

Yeah, before-- before we get on to the stories, I need to know more about you.

Yeah, before-- before we get on to the stories, I need to know more about you.

Uh, your career, by, uh, Glenn's account, is very varied,

Uh, your career, by, uh, Glenn's account, is very varied,

but, uh, The Guardian needs evidence that, uh...

but, uh, The Guardian needs evidence that, uh...

This is my diplomatic passport for friendly countries,

This is my diplomatic passport for friendly countries,

my tourist passport for everywhere else-- you can check my visa stamps.

my tourist passport for everywhere else-- you can check my visa stamps.

This is my NSA badge with Booz Allen,

This is my NSA badge with Booz Allen,

my CIA badge with Dell,

my CIA badge with Dell,

and this is my DIA instructor's badge.

and this is my DIA instructor's badge.

This is a photo of me with Michael Hayden,

This is a photo of me with Michael Hayden,

who's the former head of the NSA and the CIA.

who's the former head of the NSA and the CIA.

When can you publish?

When can you publish?

Okay, um, do you mind if I sit down?

No, please.

Okay, um, do you mind if I sit down?

No, please.

Um... Glenn says you want to, uh...

Um... Glenn says you want to, uh...

Uh, you want to tell people your identity.

Uh, you want to tell people your identity.

How do you think your government's gonna react?

How do you think your government's gonna react?

Well, they'll charge me under the Espionage Act

Well, they'll charge me under the Espionage Act

and they'll say I endangered national security,

and they'll say I endangered national security,

and they'll demonize me and my friends and family.

and they'll demonize me and my friends and family.

And they'll throw me in jail.

And they'll throw me in jail.

That's the best-case scenario.

That's the best-case scenario.

And the worst?

And the worst?

Well, if I don't have any media cover,

Well, if I don't have any media cover,

then, uh, I'll be rendered by the CIA and interrogated outside of the law.

then, uh, I'll be rendered by the CIA and interrogated outside of the law.

And they have a station right up the street.

And they have a station right up the street.

But how would they know what you did?

But how would they know what you did?

Because I left a digital footprint in my logs, so they'll figure it out.

Because I left a digital footprint in my logs, so they'll figure it out.

I did not want a manhunt.

I did not want a manhunt.

I know what they would do to my colleagues.

I know what they would do to my colleagues.

Look, Mr. MacAskill, uh,

Look, Mr. MacAskill, uh,

this is not about money or anything for me.

this is not about money or anything for me.

There's no hidden agenda.

There's no hidden agenda.

I just wanted to get this data to established journalists like yourselves

I just wanted to get this data to established journalists like yourselves

so that you can present it to the world,

so that you can present it to the world,

and the people can decide either I'm wrong...

and the people can decide either I'm wrong...

or there's something going on inside the government

or there's something going on inside the government

that's really wrong.

that's really wrong.

So...

So...

This one is everything I have

This one is everything I have

on your British intelligence agency, the GCHQ.

on your British intelligence agency, the GCHQ.

An encryption key will follow.

An encryption key will follow.

You're gonna want your technical people at The Guardian to look through that thoroughly.

You're gonna want your technical people at The Guardian to look through that thoroughly.

There's a lot of stuff there.

There's a lot of stuff there.

Listen, they're gonna investigate,

Listen, they're gonna investigate,

and they're gonna figure out what I've done.

and they're gonna figure out what I've done.

And then they're gonna come for me.

And then they're gonna come for me.

And now that we've made contact,

And now that we've made contact,

they're gonna come for all of you too.

they're gonna come for all of you too.

Uh...

Uh...

Uh...

Uh...

do you mind if I go look in the microwave?

do you mind if I go look in the microwave?

Ewen. I'm on with Stuart.

Ewen. I'm on with Stuart.

Hi, Ewen.

Hi, Ewen.

Hi, Stuart.

Hi, Stuart.

Look, I've got one thing to say.

Look, I've got one thing to say.

The Guinness here is great.

WOMAN: Wonderful.

The Guinness here is great.

WOMAN: Wonderful.

Oh, a-absolutely the genuine article.

Good.

Oh, a-absolutely the genuine article.

Good.

But shockingly different from what you'd expect.

But shockingly different from what you'd expect.

So... (clears throat)

So... (clears throat)

now we have the lawyers to deal with, and no doubt the White House.

now we have the lawyers to deal with, and no doubt the White House.

I got the go-ahead.

That's great.

I got the go-ahead.

That's great.

Good. Let's get started. We have a lot to go through. It's not easy reading.

Good. Let's get started. We have a lot to go through. It's not easy reading.

LAURA: We can start by showing him XKeyscore.

LAURA: We can start by showing him XKeyscore.

Good idea. Ed, can you walk us through it?

Good idea. Ed, can you walk us through it?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do we all get under there now?

Do we all get under there now?

He's protecting his passwords.

He's protecting his passwords.

Okay.

Okay.

So...

So...

this was introduced

this was introduced

during my first deployment at the CIA in Geneva.

during my first deployment at the CIA in Geneva.

XKeyscore.

XKeyscore.

What does that do?

What does that do?

It's like a search interface.

It's like a search interface.

What does it search for?

What does it search for?

Anything you want.

Anything you want.

EWEN: What was your assignment in Geneva?

EWEN: What was your assignment in Geneva?

ED: Well, I was assigned with diplomatic cover to the UN mission

ED: Well, I was assigned with diplomatic cover to the UN mission

to maintain the CIA's computer security network.

to maintain the CIA's computer security network.

I spent almost two years around CIA field officers.

I spent almost two years around CIA field officers.

-I don't see a time stamp. -We have a confirmation on the GSS?

-I don't see a time stamp. -We have a confirmation on the GSS?

ED: I'm sorry, sir. I don't understand.

ED: I'm sorry, sir. I don't understand.

Sherman says you hacked the human resources site.

Sherman says you hacked the human resources site.

It's my job to find flaws.

It's my job to find flaws.

The security of the HR site is not your problem.

The security of the HR site is not your problem.

You went outside the wheelhouse.

You went outside the wheelhouse.

But just to clarify, I did not hack it. I showed that it could be hacked.

But just to clarify, I did not hack it. I showed that it could be hacked.

-You told me to find a patch. -Do you have that in writing?

-You told me to find a patch. -Do you have that in writing?

Yes, I do. Remember, I sent you the proof of concept.

Yes, I do. Remember, I sent you the proof of concept.

Doesn't matter what you did.

Doesn't matter what you did.

Right or wrong, you need to let these things be someone else's problem.

Right or wrong, you need to let these things be someone else's problem.

He's also put a derog in your file.

Excuse me?

He's also put a derog in your file.

Excuse me?

Let that be a lesson. I don't want him calling me again about another Ed Snowden moment.

Let that be a lesson. I don't want him calling me again about another Ed Snowden moment.

Okay?

Okay?

Take it easy the rest of the day. Go work on the scrubbing pile.

Take it easy the rest of the day. Go work on the scrubbing pile.

That didn't look like it went well.

That didn't look like it went well.

Uh, hey, man. Uh, yeah. No.

Uh, hey, man. Uh, yeah. No.

I just got a derog for doing my job.

I just got a derog for doing my job.

Politics, man.

Politics, man.

The culture of fear wins again.

The culture of fear wins again.

I can't get anything done here.

Yeah.

I can't get anything done here.

Yeah.

Hey, um, what about that idea that we were talking about?

Hey, um, what about that idea that we were talking about?

I'm working on it. I'm waiting for a call-back from our friend at the Hill.

I'm working on it. I'm waiting for a call-back from our friend at the Hill.

Who, Corbin? You called Corbin?

Mm-hmm.

Who, Corbin? You called Corbin?

Mm-hmm.

Do you think he can do something?

We'll see.

Do you think he can do something?

We'll see.

Maybe some limited field ops under my supervision.

Maybe some limited field ops under my supervision.

Yes. That would be amazing. I would love--

Easy, Ed.

Yes. That would be amazing. I would love--

Easy, Ed.

I've gotta see a cleric in Milan. We'll talk after.

I've gotta see a cleric in Milan. We'll talk after.

Okay. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you.

(whirring)

(whirring)

(knocks)

(knocks)

Damn, CIA does not like to leave a trace, huh?

Damn, CIA does not like to leave a trace, huh?

-Can I help you? -You get curious to check one out?

-Can I help you? -You get curious to check one out?

See what kind of crazy-ass covert kill mission you might be erasing from history?

See what kind of crazy-ass covert kill mission you might be erasing from history?

-I'm sorry. Who are you with? -No Such Agency.

-I'm sorry. Who are you with? -No Such Agency.

I'm Gabriel Sol.

I'm Gabriel Sol.

I'm the 50-pound brain from the Council of Wizards and Warlocks.

I'm the 50-pound brain from the Council of Wizards and Warlocks.

Excuse me?

Excuse me?

Giving you your intel for Bucharest, dude.

Oh.

Giving you your intel for Bucharest, dude.

Oh.

Unless there's another Dave Churchyard.

Unless there's another Dave Churchyard.

No. That's me.

No. That's me.

Right this way.

Right this way.

I'll be right outside.

You can stay if you want.

I'll be right outside.

You can stay if you want.

Uh, no. I-I don't have authorization to use NSA programs.

Uh, no. I-I don't have authorization to use NSA programs.

If you're the messenger to Bucharest,

If you're the messenger to Bucharest,

you must have a PRIVAC clearance to see the finished intel, yes?

you must have a PRIVAC clearance to see the finished intel, yes?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So what difference does it make if you see how it's put together?

So what difference does it make if you see how it's put together?

(typing)

(typing)

It's up to you, man.

It's up to you, man.

(stammers) You're giving me just names?

(stammers) You're giving me just names?

A lot more than names.

A lot more than names.

What I will be providing you and the fine gentlemen of the Secret Service

What I will be providing you and the fine gentlemen of the Secret Service

is a list of every threat made about the president since February 3.

is a list of every threat made about the president since February 3.

And a profile of every threat-maker.

And a profile of every threat-maker.

And these are, like, existing targets?

And these are, like, existing targets?

Ninety-nine percent are gonna come from the bulk collection program, so...

Ninety-nine percent are gonna come from the bulk collection program, so...

Upstream, Muscular, Tempora, PRISM.

Upstream, Muscular, Tempora, PRISM.

PRISM?

PRISM?

You got a little Snow White in you.

You got a little Snow White in you.

Which makes me feel like the witch bringing you a poisoned apple.

Which makes me feel like the witch bringing you a poisoned apple.

Here. Exhibit A.

Here. Exhibit A.

Oakland resident Justin Pinsky posted on a message board,

Oakland resident Justin Pinsky posted on a message board,

"Romania has a storied history of executing their leaders.

"Romania has a storied history of executing their leaders.

Couldn't they do us a solid and take out Bush?"

Couldn't they do us a solid and take out Bush?"

Now, this looks juicy. This is from a G-chat.

Now, this looks juicy. This is from a G-chat.

"With the biggest python you've ever seen." Hmm.

"With the biggest python you've ever seen." Hmm.

How is this all possible?

How is this all possible?

Um, key word selectors.

Um, key word selectors.

"Attack," "take out," "Bush."

"Attack," "take out," "Bush."

So think of it as a Google search,

So think of it as a Google search,

except instead of searching only what people make public,

except instead of searching only what people make public,

we're also looking at everything they don't--

we're also looking at everything they don't--

e-mails, chats, SMS, whatever.

e-mails, chats, SMS, whatever.

Yeah, but which people?

Yeah, but which people?

The whole kingdom, Snow White.

The whole kingdom, Snow White.

(chattering)

♪♪ (classical: string orchestra)

(chattering)

♪♪ (classical: string orchestra)

Which ambassador was he again?

Which ambassador was he again?

De La Hoya with, uh, World Trade Organization.

De La Hoya with, uh, World Trade Organization.

Right.

Right.

♪♪ (continues)

♪♪ (continues)

Beautiful.

Beautiful.

So, O'Brian came through for you.

So, O'Brian came through for you.

He agrees your talents are being wasted.

He agrees your talents are being wasted.

You ready for a little action?

You ready for a little action?

Really? What, you mean right here?

Really? What, you mean right here?

Yeah. Now.

Yeah. Now.

See the woman in the pink number?

See the woman in the pink number?

Credit Suisse. J.P. Morgan's on her arm.

Credit Suisse. J.P. Morgan's on her arm.

Grandma's with Deutsche Bank.

Grandma's with Deutsche Bank.

10,000 bankers in this town. All you need to turn is one.

10,000 bankers in this town. All you need to turn is one.

Socialize. Meet a few.

Socialize. Meet a few.

Preferably one sitting on a pile of dirty Saudi money that's funding bin Laden.

Preferably one sitting on a pile of dirty Saudi money that's funding bin Laden.

Mr. Church-- Church...

Yard. Churchyard.

Mr. Church-- Church...

Yard. Churchyard.

(speaking Russian)

(speaking Russian)

Mr. Debrinin asks your business card, please.

Mr. Debrinin asks your business card, please.

An ambassador. Oh, wow.

(laughing)

An ambassador. Oh, wow.

(laughing)

I wish I had your schmoozing skills.

I wish I had your schmoozing skills.

Well, that's why you have me.

Yeah.

Well, that's why you have me.

Yeah.

Don't know any bankers, do you?

Bankers?

Don't know any bankers, do you?

Bankers?

You on some kind of assignment or something?

You on some kind of assignment or something?

Um, relationship cultivating.

Um, relationship cultivating.

And not well.

And not well.

Let me help you.

Let me help you.

No.

Yeah.

No.

Yeah.

No, this is serious.

I know it's serious.

No, this is serious.

I know it's serious.

Trust me.

Trust me.

Any luck?

Any luck?

No. No bites.

No. No bites.

Is there some kind of trick to it?

Is there some kind of trick to it?

It's all about finding the pressure point.

It's all about finding the pressure point.

Everything else is just pushing on it.

Everything else is just pushing on it.

Looks like you're being summoned.

Looks like you're being summoned.

(chattering)

(chattering)

Marwan? May I interrupt?

Marwan? May I interrupt?

This is my boyfriend Dave.

Hello, Dave. Nice to meet you.

This is my boyfriend Dave.

Hello, Dave. Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

Marwan works at Monfort.

Nice to meet you.

Marwan works at Monfort.

We were talking and after last week, he may be able to give you some tips.

We were talking and after last week, he may be able to give you some tips.

-Gentlemen, I'll see you inside. -Last week?

-Gentlemen, I'll see you inside. -Last week?

He's embarrassed. It was a lot of money for us.

He's embarrassed. It was a lot of money for us.

Day trading is a perilous sport.

Day trading is a perilous sport.

You shouldn't be ashamed of it.

Yeah.

You shouldn't be ashamed of it.

Yeah.

I'm gonna grab some food. See you guys inside?

I'm gonna grab some food. See you guys inside?

Sure.

Sure.

You have a lovely girlfriend.

Thank you so much.

You have a lovely girlfriend.

Thank you so much.

I work in IT, and so I just figured I could crack the market like a weak network.

I work in IT, and so I just figured I could crack the market like a weak network.

May I ask, how precipitous were your losses?

May I ask, how precipitous were your losses?

Well, I told Lindsay it was 20,000,

Well, I told Lindsay it was 20,000,

but between you and me, it was closer to 45.

but between you and me, it was closer to 45.

Tried to recoup, but... that was a mistake,

Tried to recoup, but... that was a mistake,

and now without any real grounding I feel like I'm just sliding out of control.

and now without any real grounding I feel like I'm just sliding out of control.

I have seen it many times,

I have seen it many times,

and I'm always happy to help a man break a bad habit before it gets going.

and I'm always happy to help a man break a bad habit before it gets going.

Oh, thank you. I really appreciate that.

Oh, thank you. I really appreciate that.

He's the cleanest Pakistani I've ever seen.

He's the cleanest Pakistani I've ever seen.

We got no first-degree ties to government or ISI, no shady family.

We got no first-degree ties to government or ISI, no shady family.

Second-degree contacts are off the charts,

Second-degree contacts are off the charts,

but that's everyone in the Middle East with a six-figure income.

but that's everyone in the Middle East with a six-figure income.

It's not dirt that we need necessarily. It's a pressure point.

It's not dirt that we need necessarily. It's a pressure point.

Something intimate, some kind of weakness.

Something intimate, some kind of weakness.

Can we look through his family?

Mm-hmm.

Can we look through his family?

Mm-hmm.

How about his... sister-in-law?

How about his... sister-in-law?

Yeah.

Yeah.

(computer beeps)

(people talking, indistinct)

(computer beeps)

(people talking, indistinct)

What is that? Is that some video that she sent somebody?

What is that? Is that some video that she sent somebody?

No, this is live. Out of Paris.

No, this is live. Out of Paris.

What do you mean live?

What do you mean live?

Optic Nerve. It's camera and mic activation.

Optic Nerve. It's camera and mic activation.

Wish we could take credit, but the Brits wrote it.

Wish we could take credit, but the Brits wrote it.

Activation?

Yeah. Her laptop's off.

Activation?

Yeah. Her laptop's off.

Or was. She forgot to close it. Of course, how would she know?

Or was. She forgot to close it. Of course, how would she know?

The shit is so sly, the webcam light doesn't even turn on.

The shit is so sly, the webcam light doesn't even turn on.

Hmm. I always wondered what was under those.

Hmm. I always wondered what was under those.

Okay, look, let's stick to family in Geneva.

Okay, look, let's stick to family in Geneva.

All right?

Okay, Snow White.

All right?

Okay, Snow White.

Uh...

Uh...

15-year-old daughter at the International School.

15-year-old daughter at the International School.

Yeah. Uh...

Yeah. Uh...

Facebook? Is that... possible?

Facebook? Is that... possible?

Dude, Facebook's my bitch.

Seriously?

Dude, Facebook's my bitch.

Seriously?

(typing)

Like she-she fights with her parents, or...

(typing)

Like she-she fights with her parents, or...

Don't worry. I know all the hooks for this kind of fishing.

Don't worry. I know all the hooks for this kind of fishing.

Uh, query name? So, e-mail, key word, whatever selector you want.

Uh, query name? So, e-mail, key word, whatever selector you want.

And "justification" is where I write...

And "justification" is where I write...

In other words, I'm turning your daddy into a CIA informant.

In other words, I'm turning your daddy into a CIA informant.

Wait, that's it?

That's it, bro.

Wait, that's it?

That's it, bro.

You don't have to get a FISA court order?

You don't have to get a FISA court order?

Mm-mmm. No, not here.

Mm-mmm. No, not here.

XKeyscore's under 702 authority, which means no warrants.

XKeyscore's under 702 authority, which means no warrants.

Okay, but US targets. Then you'd have to get the court order?

Okay, but US targets. Then you'd have to get the court order?

You mean FISA?

You mean FISA?

Yeah, they're just a big-ass rubber stamp, dude.

Yeah, they're just a big-ass rubber stamp, dude.

I mean, FISA judges are all appointed by the chief justice who's, like, you know...

I mean, FISA judges are all appointed by the chief justice who's, like, you know...

Darth Vader when it comes to national security.

Darth Vader when it comes to national security.

Boom. Here we go.

Boom. Here we go.

Okay, okay.

Okay, okay.

And the, uh, boy at third base is...

And the, uh, boy at third base is...

Nadim.

Nadim.

Okay.

Okay.

He's 18.

He's 18.

Salma says she wants to marry him, but is scared of telling her parents.

Salma says she wants to marry him, but is scared of telling her parents.

What she doesn't know is that

What she doesn't know is that

his other name is Nicolas.

his other name is Nicolas.

And he's currently banging Geraldine and Julie.

And he's currently banging Geraldine and Julie.

And...

And...

he and his Turkish mother are here illegally.

he and his Turkish mother are here illegally.

That's it.

That's it.

♪♪ (speakers: techno)

♪♪ (speakers: techno)

-(laughing, chattering) -WOMAN: Ah, you like that, huh?

-(laughing, chattering) -WOMAN: Ah, you like that, huh?

(chattering continues)

(chattering continues)

Man, what are we doing here?

Man, what are we doing here?

You're making people very happy.

You're making people very happy.

Mr. Marwan's bank handles serious Saudi money

Mr. Marwan's bank handles serious Saudi money

and a whole bunch of Russian billionaires.

and a whole bunch of Russian billionaires.

What about any, uh... any Al-Qaeda money?

What about any, uh... any Al-Qaeda money?

Anything promising or...

Anything promising or...

Ed, I'm up for a promotion soon. I will not forget my friends.

Ed, I'm up for a promotion soon. I will not forget my friends.

Thank you. This is all going kind of fast though, right?

Thank you. This is all going kind of fast though, right?

I mean, I just sent some initial background.

I mean, I just sent some initial background.

There he is! The man!

There he is! The man!

Hey, Marwan!

Dave.

Hey, Marwan!

Dave.

How wonderful to see you.

Good to see you too.

How wonderful to see you.

Good to see you too.

Uh, I was counting, Marwan.

Uh, I was counting, Marwan.

You snuck in an extra half hour back there.

You snuck in an extra half hour back there.

(laughs) I'm afraid she was merely listening to an old man's woes.

(laughs) I'm afraid she was merely listening to an old man's woes.

Oh, I see.

Oh, I see.

How are you, Marwan?

How are you, Marwan?

I must tell you, Dave,

I must tell you, Dave,

since we met

since we met

my life has gone somewhat topsy-turvy.

my life has gone somewhat topsy-turvy.

Oh, no. I'm sorry to hear that.

Oh, no. I'm sorry to hear that.

But your colleague Charles here has graciously offered his help.

But your colleague Charles here has graciously offered his help.

So I owe him and you a great deal.

So I owe him and you a great deal.

Can I ask what happened?

Can I ask what happened?

My, uh, daughter had an...

My, uh, daughter had an...

Marwan's daughter took too many sleeping pills.

Marwan's daughter took too many sleeping pills.

She's all right.

She's all right.

It had something to do with her boyfriend, who was recently deported.

It had something to do with her boyfriend, who was recently deported.

We're trying to secure a visa for him.

We're trying to secure a visa for him.

Even so, I'm afraid that Salma will...

Even so, I'm afraid that Salma will...

I'm sorry. I won't trouble you with such matters.

I'm sorry. I won't trouble you with such matters.

No, you-- Hey. You talk as much as you want.

No, you-- Hey. You talk as much as you want.

All right?

All right?

Family comes first.

Family comes first.

(all laughing)

(all laughing)

Uh-oh!

Oh. Ah, there's my beauty.

Uh-oh!

Oh. Ah, there's my beauty.

-I don't know. -(Marwan chuckles)

-I don't know. -(Marwan chuckles)

-I'm never like this before. -Oh, sure. No, of course.

-I'm never like this before. -Oh, sure. No, of course.

You sit down, huh? Sit tight.

You sit down, huh? Sit tight.

(both laughing)

You sit tight.

(both laughing)

You sit tight.

(laughing continues)

(laughing continues)

What the fuck's going on?

What the fuck's going on?

I have been acting swiftly and effectively

I have been acting swiftly and effectively

on the very good signals intelligence you've provided.

on the very good signals intelligence you've provided.

And if his daughter had died?

And if his daughter had died?

We could have used that too.

Are you serious?

We could have used that too.

Are you serious?

-What, in the name of a promotion? -(honking)

-What, in the name of a promotion? -(honking)

Marwan can't be away from his family right now.

Marwan can't be away from his family right now.

So in the morning, when he's facing a week of jail,

So in the morning, when he's facing a week of jail,

we're gonna offer him a deal and he won't turn it down.

we're gonna offer him a deal and he won't turn it down.

-Wait, jail? For what? -Drunk driving.

-Wait, jail? For what? -Drunk driving.

Now, you call the police. Tell 'em you saw a Mercedes heading north--

Now, you call the police. Tell 'em you saw a Mercedes heading north--

No, he's not driving right now. Look at him. He'll kill himself.

No, he's not driving right now. Look at him. He'll kill himself.

Okay. I'll call 'em.

Hey!

Okay. I'll call 'em.

Hey!

He's not driving.

He's not driving.

Remind me, are you authorized on any of the NSA programs you used?

Remind me, are you authorized on any of the NSA programs you used?

So we're both doing a little fucked-up shit here, huh?

So we're both doing a little fucked-up shit here, huh?

Watch yourself, Ed.

I will tell him who you are.

Watch yourself, Ed.

I will tell him who you are.

You reveal the identity of an undercover officer,

You reveal the identity of an undercover officer,

you're going to jail for a lot longer than Marwan.

you're going to jail for a lot longer than Marwan.

MARWAN: Hey!

MARWAN: Hey!

Hey.

Hey.

Sorry I'm so late.

Sorry I'm so late.

How was work?

How was work?

It was, uh...

It was, uh...

It was all right.

Mmm.

It was all right.

Mmm.

I, uh...

I, uh...

I have to wake up in, like, three hours. My flight's at 7:00.

I have to wake up in, like, three hours. My flight's at 7:00.

We'd better be quick then.

We'd better be quick then.

(both chuckle)

(both chuckle)

I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies

I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies

with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists

with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists

without undermining our constitution and our freedom.

without undermining our constitution and our freedom.

That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens.

That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens.

No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient.

No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient.

That is not who we are.

That is not who we are.

Hey, hon.

Hey.

Hey, hon.

Hey.

(laughs) What happened to the London trip?

(laughs) What happened to the London trip?

Uh...

Uh...

turns out I'm not going.

turns out I'm not going.

Oh.

Oh.

What's going on? Who's winning?

What's going on? Who's winning?

REPORTER: Michelle Obama voted this morning in Chicago.

REPORTER: Michelle Obama voted this morning in Chicago.

I voted.

REPORTER: In Arizona--

I voted.

REPORTER: In Arizona--

Still early.

John and Cindy McCain voted,

Still early.

John and Cindy McCain voted,

and then they landed in Colorado to defend a traditionally Republican state

and then they landed in Colorado to defend a traditionally Republican state

that has turned into a battleground.

that has turned into a battleground.

Obama ahead, uh, 67% to 32%.

Obama ahead, uh, 67% to 32%.

Come on, big ears. Check out Florida.

Come on, big ears. Check out Florida.

ANCHOR: But remember, this is very, very early in Ohio.

ANCHOR: But remember, this is very, very early in Ohio.

Twenty electoral votes at stake.

Twenty electoral votes at stake.

Holy shit, he's gonna win it!

Holy shit, he's gonna win it!

What, Florida?

Yeah!

What, Florida?

Yeah!

That's big.

It's huge!

That's big.

It's huge!

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can act all nonchalant, but I know you were starting to root for him.

You can act all nonchalant, but I know you were starting to root for him.

I've been watching your inner liberal grow,

I've been watching your inner liberal grow,

for which I will take a modest percentage of the credit.

for which I will take a modest percentage of the credit.

You deserve it. (clears throat)

(laughs)

You deserve it. (clears throat)

(laughs)

What is this?

What is this?

Oh, yeah, that. Just leave that there.

Oh, yeah, that. Just leave that there.

That's, uh...

That's, uh...

Russian hackers.

Russian hackers.

The agency says they can activate webcams now, so...

The agency says they can activate webcams now, so...

That's creepy.

Yes.

That's creepy.

Yes.

Really bothering me.

Really bothering me.

Whatever. It's not a big deal. You shouldn't let it bother you.

Whatever. It's not a big deal. You shouldn't let it bother you.

It's not a big deal?

No.

It's not a big deal?

No.

What, that someone could be watching you right now?

What, that someone could be watching you right now?

No, I'm not-- I'm not hiding anything.

No, I'm not-- I'm not hiding anything.

Oh, that's such a bullshit line.

Oh, that's such a bullshit line.

What is?

"I have nothing to hide."

What is?

"I have nothing to hide."

I don't.

Everyone does.

I don't.

Everyone does.

Okay, well, then, what do I have to hide?

Okay, well, then, what do I have to hide?

(sighs) Forget it.

No. What do I have to hide?

(sighs) Forget it.

No. What do I have to hide?

No, let's just drop it.

No, let's just drop it.

Well, apparently you think that I'm hiding something, so...

Well, apparently you think that I'm hiding something, so...

Okay, the other day your computer was open,

Okay, the other day your computer was open,

and I happened to notice you were on the site where we met,

and I happened to notice you were on the site where we met,

and you were looking at other guys.

and you were looking at other guys.

You just were looking at my computer?

You just were looking at my computer?

I wouldn't have even brought this up. You asked me, "What do I have to hide?"

I wouldn't have even brought this up. You asked me, "What do I have to hide?"

That's something you're not telling me.

That's something you're not telling me.

Well... it's...

Well... it's...

it's not-- I don't do anything. I don't meet any of those people.

it's not-- I don't do anything. I don't meet any of those people.

You're gone for weeks at a time.

You're gone for weeks at a time.

So it's like I'm peering into other peoples' lives

So it's like I'm peering into other peoples' lives

because my own is just temporarily on hold.

because my own is just temporarily on hold.

That sounds like an excuse.

That sounds like an excuse.

It's the truth.

It's the truth.

I should have told you,

I should have told you,

and I didn't.

and I didn't.

I'm really sorry.

I'm really sorry.

But it's not a big deal.

But it's not a big deal.

Hey.

Hey.

Look at me.

Look at me.

I don't want anyone else.

I don't want anyone else.

I don't want any other life.

I don't want any other life.

Okay?

Okay?

Listen, um...

Listen, um...

I didn't go to London today 'cause I resigned.

I didn't go to London today 'cause I resigned.

What?

What?

It was personal differences, and, uh, it was a matter of principle.

It was personal differences, and, uh, it was a matter of principle.

Can you tell me anything else?

Can you tell me anything else?

Do you get reposted, or...

No, no, I-- I resigned from the CIA.

Do you get reposted, or...

No, no, I-- I resigned from the CIA.

So what does that mean? What do we do?

So what does that mean? What do we do?

I don't know. I-- I'll figure it out.

I don't know. I-- I'll figure it out.

But, listen, I...

But, listen, I...

This is a good thing.

This is a good thing.

Trust me.

Trust me.

I do.

I do.

(sighs)

(sighs)

Hey.

Hmm?

Hey.

Hmm?

He's gonna win.

He's gonna win.

ANCHOR: 52% for Obama, 48% for McCain.

Yeah, he'd better.

ANCHOR: 52% for Obama, 48% for McCain.

Yeah, he'd better.

CNN can now project that Barack Obama, 47 years old,

CNN can now project that Barack Obama, 47 years old,

will become the president of the United States.

will become the president of the United States.

Every agency and department should know that this administration

Every agency and department should know that this administration

stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information,

stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information,

but those who seek to make it known.

but those who seek to make it known.

GLENN: Janine is the Web site editor

GLENN: Janine is the Web site editor

of a small stateside office of a British newspaper,

of a small stateside office of a British newspaper,

up against the most powerful government in the world.

up against the most powerful government in the world.

EWEN: She won't be bullied.

EWEN: She won't be bullied.

We need to establish that we're not compromising national security by publishing.

We need to establish that we're not compromising national security by publishing.

GLENN: We need to have alternatives.

GLENN: We need to have alternatives.

Listen, Ed, the real issue here is that they, the White House,

Listen, Ed, the real issue here is that they, the White House,

are aware that Janine has a leaked top-secret FISA court order.

are aware that Janine has a leaked top-secret FISA court order.

Anything could happen. They could subpoena The Guardian.

Anything could happen. They could subpoena The Guardian.

For that matter, they could break through that door any minute, ending all of this.

For that matter, they could break through that door any minute, ending all of this.

We are running out of time.

We are running out of time.

We seriously have to think about doing this on our own Web site. We have no choice.

We seriously have to think about doing this on our own Web site. We have no choice.

You can't just start dumping articles on the Internet, Glenn. Be serious.

You can't just start dumping articles on the Internet, Glenn. Be serious.

Look at WikiLeaks. It destroyed their credibility.

Look at WikiLeaks. It destroyed their credibility.

Look, Ed, you said it yourself.

Look, Ed, you said it yourself.

If this isn't done properly, the world isn't gonna take notice.

If this isn't done properly, the world isn't gonna take notice.

We need experienced journalists to lead the public

We need experienced journalists to lead the public

through some very, very complicated stories.

through some very, very complicated stories.

We are experienced journalists.

We are experienced journalists.

-My... feeling-- -(phone ringing)

-My... feeling-- -(phone ringing)

(ringing continues)

(ringing continues)

-Has anyone called you before? -Not once. Not in three weeks.

-Has anyone called you before? -Not once. Not in three weeks.

Well, I'll-- Shall I answer it? Or tell 'em it's the wrong number.

Well, I'll-- Shall I answer it? Or tell 'em it's the wrong number.

Yes?

Yes?

No, I don't.

No, I don't.

Okay. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you.

Asking if I want turndown service.

Asking if I want turndown service.

She said the "do not disturb" sign was off the door.

She said the "do not disturb" sign was off the door.

(door closes)

(door closes)

(Ewen sighs)

(Ewen sighs)

(door closes)

(door closes)

So?

So?

Do we wait, or go on our own?

Do we wait, or go on our own?

Look, I said from the beginning that how you publish is your business,

Look, I said from the beginning that how you publish is your business,

and I trust you.

and I trust you.

The only thing I ask is you study the data, you be responsible.

The only thing I ask is you study the data, you be responsible.

No names, no specifics.

No names, no specifics.

Anything ongoing that's critical, you don't release.

Anything ongoing that's critical, you don't release.

You just stick to the issue of mass surveillance and let the people decide.

You just stick to the issue of mass surveillance and let the people decide.

You have our word on that, but that's not the question. We have to ask--

You have our word on that, but that's not the question. We have to ask--

Look, Ed, Ed, right now the White House is arranging a conference call

Look, Ed, Ed, right now the White House is arranging a conference call

between Janine and the intelligence services.

between Janine and the intelligence services.

Now, that's gonna happen in a few hours.

Now, that's gonna happen in a few hours.

Let's at least wait for that, see what they say to her.

Let's at least wait for that, see what they say to her.

I'd say we pause a moment.

I'd say we pause a moment.

I think we should reassemble in this room after the call takes place.

I think we should reassemble in this room after the call takes place.

So that's around midnight.

So that's around midnight.

Be noon in New York.

Be noon in New York.

All right. I'll take another pass at the PRISM story in the meantime.

All right. I'll take another pass at the PRISM story in the meantime.

Okay. We'll be, uh-- We'll be in our hotel room if you need us. Okay?

Okay. We'll be, uh-- We'll be in our hotel room if you need us. Okay?

Thanks, Ewen. Okay.

Yeah.

Thanks, Ewen. Okay.

Yeah.

Uh, do you mind maybe we take a break from that

Uh, do you mind maybe we take a break from that

for a second?

for a second?

Oh, yeah. Sure. Sorry.

Oh, yeah. Sure. Sorry.

You wanna take a look? Might make you feel better.

You wanna take a look? Might make you feel better.

Uh...

It's not recording. Just on standby.

Uh...

It's not recording. Just on standby.

Okay.

(chuckles)

Okay.

(chuckles)

When did this start for you, not wanting your photo taken?

When did this start for you, not wanting your photo taken?

Uh, probably in Japan.

Uh, probably in Japan.

I remember every time a camera got pointed at me was like...

I remember every time a camera got pointed at me was like...

Couldn't breathe.

Couldn't breathe.

Why was that?

Why was that?

I probably, uh, spent too much time looking at other people through cameras.

I probably, uh, spent too much time looking at other people through cameras.

Japan was your first NSA job, right?

Japan was your first NSA job, right?

Yeah, well, as a contractor with Dell.

Yeah, well, as a contractor with Dell.

Had a lot of access.

Had a lot of access.

Why'd you go back after Geneva?

Why'd you go back after Geneva?

'Cause, uh, of the money, and 'cause I wanted to live in Japan.

'Cause, uh, of the money, and 'cause I wanted to live in Japan.

And because of Obama, actually.

And because of Obama, actually.

You know, I thought things were gonna get better with him.

You know, I thought things were gonna get better with him.

I was wrong.

I was wrong.

(radio chatter in Japanese)

(radio chatter in Japanese)

LAURA: What was it like there?

LAURA: What was it like there?

ED: Well, in the first part of my day,

ED: Well, in the first part of my day,

I was building this round-the-clock backup system called Epic Shelter.

I was building this round-the-clock backup system called Epic Shelter.

So if there was some catastrophe,

So if there was some catastrophe,

say, uh, terrorists burned down every embassy and NSA post in the Middle East,

say, uh, terrorists burned down every embassy and NSA post in the Middle East,

this program would ensure we wouldn't lose any of that data.

this program would ensure we wouldn't lose any of that data.

But then, I would have to put it aside when visitors would show up.

But then, I would have to put it aside when visitors would show up.

Hi, Ed.

Hi, Ed.

NSA wanted to impress the Japanese, you know, show them our reach.

NSA wanted to impress the Japanese, you know, show them our reach.

They loved the live drone feeds.

They loved the live drone feeds.

Uh, this is over Pakistan.

Uh, this is over Pakistan.

Right now.

Right now.

ED: They were not as thrilled to learn that we wanted them

ED: They were not as thrilled to learn that we wanted them

to help us spy on the Japanese population.

to help us spy on the Japanese population.

They said it was against their laws.

They said it was against their laws.

Course we tapped the entire country anyway.

Course we tapped the entire country anyway.

And we didn't stop there, 'cause once we owned their communications system,

And we didn't stop there, 'cause once we owned their communications system,

we started going after their physical infrastructure.

we started going after their physical infrastructure.

We'd slip these little sleeper programs

We'd slip these little sleeper programs

into power grids, dams, hospitals,

into power grids, dams, hospitals,

and the idea was if the day came when Japan was no longer an ally,

and the idea was if the day came when Japan was no longer an ally,

it'd be lights out.

it'd be lights out.

And it wasn't just the Japanese.

And it wasn't just the Japanese.

We were planting malware in Mexico, Germany, Brazil, Austria.

We were planting malware in Mexico, Germany, Brazil, Austria.

I mean, China I can understand, or Russia, or Iran, or Venezuela, okay.

I mean, China I can understand, or Russia, or Iran, or Venezuela, okay.

But Austria?

But Austria?

(bells clanking)

(bells clanking)

You're also being ordered to follow most world leaders and heads of industry.

You're also being ordered to follow most world leaders and heads of industry.

You know, you're tracking trade deals, sex scandals, diplomatic cables

You know, you're tracking trade deals, sex scandals, diplomatic cables

to give the US an advantage in negotiations at the G8

to give the US an advantage in negotiations at the G8

or leverage over Brazilian oil companies

or leverage over Brazilian oil companies

or helping to oust some third world leader who's not playing ball.

or helping to oust some third world leader who's not playing ball.

And ultimately, the truth sinks in

And ultimately, the truth sinks in

that no matter what justification you're selling yourself,

that no matter what justification you're selling yourself,

this is not about terrorism.

this is not about terrorism.

Terrorism is the excuse.

Terrorism is the excuse.

This is about economic and social control.

This is about economic and social control.

And the only thing you're really protecting

And the only thing you're really protecting

is the supremacy of your government.

is the supremacy of your government.

LAURA: Were you thinking about going to journalists then?

LAURA: Were you thinking about going to journalists then?

No. No, that-that wouldn't have occurred to me back then.

No. No, that-that wouldn't have occurred to me back then.

I just thought, you know,

I just thought, you know,

the system will self-correct,

the system will self-correct,

and the president will keep his promise that got him elected.

and the president will keep his promise that got him elected.

That's actually when I first, uh, started reading about you and your films.

That's actually when I first, uh, started reading about you and your films.

It was in Glenn's blog. You were being detained in airports for hours.

It was in Glenn's blog. You were being detained in airports for hours.

Thirty-seven times for investigating your own country's wars.

Thirty-seven times for investigating your own country's wars.

That's why I'm going back to Berlin to edit.

That's why I'm going back to Berlin to edit.

You can trust me with this.

You can trust me with this.

I do. Yeah.

I do. Yeah.

I haven't trusted anyone in...

I haven't trusted anyone in...

years.

years.

(typing)

(typing)

ED: It was a welcome change

ED: It was a welcome change

when they put me on terrorism watch duty.

when they put me on terrorism watch duty.

Every day, I'd go in and I'd get starting points for SIGINT,

Every day, I'd go in and I'd get starting points for SIGINT,

which is signals intelligence.

which is signals intelligence.

A lot of them were American, which felt strange,

A lot of them were American, which felt strange,

but you just keep reminding yourself,

but you just keep reminding yourself,

I could stop a dirty bomb attack and save thousands of lives.

I could stop a dirty bomb attack and save thousands of lives.

The thing is, you're not just following your bad-guy targets.

The thing is, you're not just following your bad-guy targets.

You're also following their metadata,

You're also following their metadata,

which is basically all the phone numbers that they're in touch with.

which is basically all the phone numbers that they're in touch with.

Let's say your target is a shady Iranian banker

Let's say your target is a shady Iranian banker

operating out of Beirut.

operating out of Beirut.

So you're watching his stuff, but you're also watching all the people that he talks to,

So you're watching his stuff, but you're also watching all the people that he talks to,

including, you know, his cousin, who's just some dentist living in Buffalo.

including, you know, his cousin, who's just some dentist living in Buffalo.

And then you have to watch all of that guy's contacts.

And then you have to watch all of that guy's contacts.

And by the time you go a third hop out from the original target,

And by the time you go a third hop out from the original target,

you're watching this bartender chat with her mother about Botox.

you're watching this bartender chat with her mother about Botox.

'Cause three hops from anyone with, say, 40 contacts,

'Cause three hops from anyone with, say, 40 contacts,

you're looking at a list of 2.5 million people.

you're looking at a list of 2.5 million people.

And there's that moment when you're sitting there

And there's that moment when you're sitting there

and the scale of it hits you.

and the scale of it hits you.

The NSA is really tracking every cell phone in the world.

The NSA is really tracking every cell phone in the world.

No matter who you are,

No matter who you are,

every day of your life you're sitting in a database just ready to be looked at.

every day of your life you're sitting in a database just ready to be looked at.

And not just terrorists, or countries, or corporations...

And not just terrorists, or countries, or corporations...

but you.

but you.

Was Lindsay with you in Japan?

Was Lindsay with you in Japan?

Japan was...

Japan was...

difficult for us.

difficult for us.

I guess you couldn't talk about your work.

I guess you couldn't talk about your work.

No.

No.

There was this one night, uh, towards the end when, uh...

There was this one night, uh, towards the end when, uh...

We were supposed to go climb Mount Fuji the next day.

We were supposed to go climb Mount Fuji the next day.

Wow.

Wow.

Are you gonna post that on Twitter?

Are you gonna post that on Twitter?

No. They're just for me.

No. They're just for me.

What do you think?

What do you think?

You should delete those.

You should delete those.

That's not quite the artistic critique I was going for.

That's not quite the artistic critique I was going for.

I'm sorry. You just-- You-- (sighs)

I'm sorry. You just-- You-- (sighs)

You can't have stuff like that on your hard drive.

You can't have stuff like that on your hard drive.

Yes, I can.

Can... you just please--

Yes, I can.

Can... you just please--

I'm asking you, can you delete them?

I'm asking you, can you delete them?

Russian hackers again?

Russian hackers again?

No.

No.

Is it us?

Is it us?

It's classified.

It's classified.

-Am I a target? -Of course not.

-Am I a target? -Of course not.

Clearly someone is looking at my nude portraits.

Clearly someone is looking at my nude portraits.

I shouldn't have brought it up. All right? It's issues of national security.

I shouldn't have brought it up. All right? It's issues of national security.

Well, I am flattered that my boobs are considered an issue of national security,

Well, I am flattered that my boobs are considered an issue of national security,

but you're gonna have to do better than that.

but you're gonna have to do better than that.

I'd rather not talk about stuff that could land us in jail.

I'd rather not talk about stuff that could land us in jail.

That's what the Band-Aids are about then? And your camera phobia?

That's what the Band-Aids are about then? And your camera phobia?

Because of work?

Because of work?

Are they watching us?

Are they watching us?

Who are they watching?

No one, okay? Let's stop talking about it.

Who are they watching?

No one, okay? Let's stop talking about it.

Let's go to bed and wake up in the morning

Let's go to bed and wake up in the morning

and go climb this fucking mountain, all right?

and go climb this fucking mountain, all right?

-Of course we're not gonna talk about it. -What is that supposed to mean?

-Of course we're not gonna talk about it. -What is that supposed to mean?

It means that we don't talk about anything anymore.

It means that we don't talk about anything anymore.

You work 12-hour days, you come home depressed,

You work 12-hour days, you come home depressed,

you play fucking video games and then you fall asleep.

you play fucking video games and then you fall asleep.

I'm tired 'cause I have a job-- that's what pays for this apartment

I'm tired 'cause I have a job-- that's what pays for this apartment

in the most expensive city in the world.

in the most expensive city in the world.

Which you asked me to come to knowing I did not have a work visa.

Which you asked me to come to knowing I did not have a work visa.

Okay, what if you had one?

Okay, what if you had one?

Would you really give up your beautiful life

Would you really give up your beautiful life

of eating and sleeping and going out all the time?

of eating and sleeping and going out all the time?

You think you really want a career?

You think you really want a career?

A career like yours where I'm miserable all the time? No.

A career like yours where I'm miserable all the time? No.

That's called responsibility.

That's called responsibility.

Fuck this.

You know what?

Fuck this.

You know what?

You have no fucking idea what it's like to be accountable for other people's lives,

You have no fucking idea what it's like to be accountable for other people's lives,

because you live in a fairy tale land where there are no consequences

because you live in a fairy tale land where there are no consequences

and no one ever gets hurt.

and no one ever gets hurt.

-(sighs) -No.

-(sighs) -No.

No, you... you don't get hurt.

No, you... you don't get hurt.

I get fucking crushed.

I get fucking crushed.

Fucking bullshit! I've done nothing to you!

Fucking bullshit! I've done nothing to you!

That's exactly right. You have done nothing!

That's exactly right. You have done nothing!

You don't hang out with me, you don't laugh with me,

You don't hang out with me, you don't laugh with me,

you don't even fucking touch me anymore!

you don't even fucking touch me anymore!

I'm sorry.

Stop!

I'm sorry.

Stop!

No!

No!

We, uh-- We never made it to Mount Fuji.

We, uh-- We never made it to Mount Fuji.

And Lindsay left

And Lindsay left

pretty soon after that, and...

pretty soon after that, and...

I was really lonely there.

I was really lonely there.

But after three months I left too. I went back to Maryland.

But after three months I left too. I went back to Maryland.

(doorbell rings)

(dog barking)

(doorbell rings)

(dog barking)

I promised her I'd change.

I promised her I'd change.

And, uh, we moved back in together.

And, uh, we moved back in together.

Make sure your knees stay bent. You can fully extend once you feel stable.

Make sure your knees stay bent. You can fully extend once you feel stable.

Ready? One, two, three.

Ready? One, two, three.

All the way up. And you wanna clench between your knees.

All the way up. And you wanna clench between your knees.

It'll burn, but it's a good burn.

It'll burn, but it's a good burn.

Perfect.

Perfect.

Twirl around.

Twirl around.

Perfect! Oh, my God! I'm so proud of you!

Perfect! Oh, my God! I'm so proud of you!

ED: When you're really happy,

ED: When you're really happy,

there's a large part of you that just wants to stay happy.

there's a large part of you that just wants to stay happy.

(Ed laughs)

(Ed laughs)

And you start to think, what could be more important than this?

And you start to think, what could be more important than this?

What?

What?

Oh, my God. It's so beautiful.

Oh, my God. It's so beautiful.

Come here.

Come here.

ED: You know, lots of people cruise happily through life.

ED: You know, lots of people cruise happily through life.

Why can't I?

Why can't I?

I went back to work at the CIA.

I went back to work at the CIA.

With backdoors...

With backdoors...

ED: My official title was solutions consultant.

ED: My official title was solutions consultant.

ED: ...USB sockets...

ED: ...USB sockets...

ED: Basically I was hawking overpriced hardware for a living.

ED: Basically I was hawking overpriced hardware for a living.

But I thought you had resigned.

But I thought you had resigned.

Yeah, well, it was all contract work after Geneva.

Yeah, well, it was all contract work after Geneva.

You know, it's Booz Allen Hamilton or Dell,

You know, it's Booz Allen Hamilton or Dell,

in partnership with CIA or NSA or DIA.

in partnership with CIA or NSA or DIA.

That's the, uh-- the intelligence community's revolving door.

That's the, uh-- the intelligence community's revolving door.

How was it, being back in the States?

How was it, being back in the States?

It was, uh...

It was, uh...

It was really good to be home.

It was really good to be home.

But Maryland was where things started to turn for me.

But Maryland was where things started to turn for me.

Every time I felt like I was finally letting go of all the anxiety

Every time I felt like I was finally letting go of all the anxiety

and all the questions that used to keep me up at night,

and all the questions that used to keep me up at night,

I'd learn something else, and I just couldn't ignore it.

I'd learn something else, and I just couldn't ignore it.

Like there were these three high-level officials at the NSA--

Like there were these three high-level officials at the NSA--

Bill Binney, Ed Loomis and Kirk Wiebe.

Bill Binney, Ed Loomis and Kirk Wiebe.

They'd been filing complaints about abuse and overreach for years.

They'd been filing complaints about abuse and overreach for years.

That's all they did-- they just filed complaints.

That's all they did-- they just filed complaints.

And the FBI raided their homes.

And the FBI raided their homes.

Then there was Thomas Drake.

Then there was Thomas Drake.

Like the other three guys, Drake was trying to change things from the inside.

Like the other three guys, Drake was trying to change things from the inside.

But when nothing worked, he did go to the press.

But when nothing worked, he did go to the press.

So they hit him with the Espionage Act,

So they hit him with the Espionage Act,

and we were shocked-- the whole intel community.

and we were shocked-- the whole intel community.

-MAN: Why do you think you were charged? -To send a chilling message.

-MAN: Why do you think you were charged? -To send a chilling message.

-To whom? -To other whistle-blowers.

-To whom? -To other whistle-blowers.

To others in the government not to speak out.

To others in the government not to speak out.

Do not tell truth to power.

Do not tell truth to power.

We'll hammer you.

We'll hammer you.

There's a new program being developed at the NSA's op center on Oahu.

There's a new program being developed at the NSA's op center on Oahu.

You'd be going up against Chinese cyber divisions.

You'd be going up against Chinese cyber divisions.

You interested?

You interested?

Won't be the vast sums of money you're making now,

Won't be the vast sums of money you're making now,

but you'd be performing a critical service for your country.

but you'd be performing a critical service for your country.

I know that's important to you.

You mean service like in Geneva?

I know that's important to you.

You mean service like in Geneva?

Matt was a mistake. Shouldn't have pushed you into that.

Matt was a mistake. Shouldn't have pushed you into that.

You didn't push me. I asked for exposure to field ops, you gave it to me.

You didn't push me. I asked for exposure to field ops, you gave it to me.

I don't hold that against you.

I don't hold that against you.

Is there something you do hold against me?

Is there something you do hold against me?

You didn't tell me we were running a dragnet on the whole world, Corbin.

You didn't tell me we were running a dragnet on the whole world, Corbin.

(dog barking)

(dog barking)

(gunshots)

(gunshots)

Great shooting, Ed.

Thank you.

Great shooting, Ed.

Thank you.

That's terrific.

That's terrific.

It's the one thing in the army I was good at.

It's the one thing in the army I was good at.

You ever think, Ed, since the second World War,

You ever think, Ed, since the second World War,

it's been 60 years and still no WWIII.

it's been 60 years and still no WWIII.

Why?

Why?

Because we've used our power, generally, for the good of the world.

Because we've used our power, generally, for the good of the world.

For prosperity, order.

For prosperity, order.

How can we defend ourselves against nuclear war, terror attacks, cyber attacks

How can we defend ourselves against nuclear war, terror attacks, cyber attacks

without a centralized intel factory

without a centralized intel factory

working around the world night and day?

working around the world night and day?

So we should catalog billions of people's lives?

So we should catalog billions of people's lives?

Most people already catalog their lives for public consumption.

Most people already catalog their lives for public consumption.

Well, they catalog part of their lives, and they do it by choice.

Well, they catalog part of their lives, and they do it by choice.

We're not giving them the choice. We're just taking everything.

We're not giving them the choice. We're just taking everything.

Most Americans don't want freedom. They want security.

Most Americans don't want freedom. They want security.

It's a simple bargain. If...

It's a simple bargain. If...

Good girl! Good girl!

Good girl! Good girl!

If you want to play with all the new toys and be safe,

If you want to play with all the new toys and be safe,

you pay the price of admission.

you pay the price of admission.

Yeah, except people...

Yeah, except people...

they don't even know they've made that bargain.

they don't even know they've made that bargain.

Where is the modern battlefield, soldier?

Where is the modern battlefield, soldier?

Everywhere.

Everywhere.

(men chattering)

What's the first rule of battle?

(men chattering)

What's the first rule of battle?

Never reveal your position.

Never reveal your position.

And if one unauthorized person knew?

And if one unauthorized person knew?

If Congress knew?

Then so would the enemy.

If Congress knew?

Then so would the enemy.

That, Mr. Snowden, is the state of the world.

That, Mr. Snowden, is the state of the world.

Secrecy is security, and security is victory.

Secrecy is security, and security is victory.

(men chattering, shouting)

(men chattering, shouting)

Thanks.

Thank you, sir.

Thanks.

Thank you, sir.

There's someone I want you to meet.

There's someone I want you to meet.

MAN: Beautiful day for it, wasn't it?

MAN #2: Perfect weather.

MAN: Beautiful day for it, wasn't it?

MAN #2: Perfect weather.

Mr. Lowell.

Mr. Lowell.

Jim. How are you?

Jim. How are you?

Dorian. Alan.

Nice to see you.

Dorian. Alan.

Nice to see you.

Welcome to the US.

How'd you make out today, Corbin?

Welcome to the US.

How'd you make out today, Corbin?

Uh, very mediocre. Nothing like Ed here.

Uh, very mediocre. Nothing like Ed here.

Apparently the army's training people to shoot straight.

Apparently the army's training people to shoot straight.

-So this is Ed Snowden. -Yes, sir. Pleasure to meet you.

-So this is Ed Snowden. -Yes, sir. Pleasure to meet you.

-The brains behind Epic Shelter. -That's right.

-The brains behind Epic Shelter. -That's right.

That's brilliant work.

Thank you, sir.

That's brilliant work.

Thank you, sir.

-I had a few questions I wanted to ask you. -Uh, Jim.

-I had a few questions I wanted to ask you. -Uh, Jim.

Will you excuse me, gentlemen? Excuse me, Alan.

Will you excuse me, gentlemen? Excuse me, Alan.

Nice to meet you.

Sure.

Nice to meet you.

Sure.

Yeah, it's, uh, proving very useful to our, uh, UAV program.

Yeah, it's, uh, proving very useful to our, uh, UAV program.

Yes, I heard, with foreign site intel transfer.

Yes, I heard, with foreign site intel transfer.

Transfers happen on collection now.

Transfers happen on collection now.

They go straight to the Pentagon. Mossad, if they need it.

They go straight to the Pentagon. Mossad, if they need it.

Actionable immediately. No one sees it.

Actionable immediately. No one sees it.

It's improved the response time of our drone pilots by a factor of 10.

It's improved the response time of our drone pilots by a factor of 10.

Tell me, Ed. You worked signals intelligence in Japan too, yes?

Tell me, Ed. You worked signals intelligence in Japan too, yes?

Yes, sir.

How'd you like it?

Yes, sir.

How'd you like it?

It was, uh, a very empowering job, sir.

It was, uh, a very empowering job, sir.

(chuckles) With this new job in Hawaii,

(chuckles) With this new job in Hawaii,

you'd have even more access.

you'd have even more access.

I asked Corbin to start the conversation, but the offer is mine.

I asked Corbin to start the conversation, but the offer is mine.

Take your time.

Take your time.

It's gonna take a few months to get this program on its feet.

It's gonna take a few months to get this program on its feet.

If you'll excuse me, gentlemen, I see dinner.

If you'll excuse me, gentlemen, I see dinner.

Beer, sir?

Thank you.

Beer, sir?

Thank you.

Sir, for you?

No, thank you.

Sir, for you?

No, thank you.

Wrapping up?

Gentlemen, anyone like a beer?

Wrapping up?

Gentlemen, anyone like a beer?

Epic Shelter was meant as a backup program.

Epic Shelter was meant as a backup program.

Lowell is creating this position for you, Ed.

Lowell is creating this position for you, Ed.

You'd be the first contractor outside Fort Meade

You'd be the first contractor outside Fort Meade

working counter-cyber.

working counter-cyber.

It's your ticket to the top.

It's your ticket to the top.

WOMAN: Do you believe the United States is the greatest country in the world?

WOMAN: Do you believe the United States is the greatest country in the world?

Yes.

Yes.

Have you ever used any programs you were unauthorized for?

Have you ever used any programs you were unauthorized for?

No.

No.

(beeps)

(beeps)

LINDSAY: We're not usually supposed to submit our own work,

LINDSAY: We're not usually supposed to submit our own work,

but my editor said she'd make an exception.

but my editor said she'd make an exception.

Pretty neat, huh?

Pretty neat, huh?

(grunts) I get to submit an entry.

(grunts) I get to submit an entry.

You ignoring me on purpose, or what?

You ignoring me on purpose, or what?

No. Sorry. Shit.

No. Sorry. Shit.

Uh...

Uh...

I was just thinking.

I was just thinking.

About what?

About what?

I wanted to talk to you about it at dinner, but let's just...

I wanted to talk to you about it at dinner, but let's just...

Wanna come sit down?

Wanna come sit down?

Is everything okay?

Is everything okay?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um...

Um...

The, uh-- The deputy director of the NSA--

The, uh-- The deputy director of the NSA--

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

He offered me a new position.

He offered me a new position.

And, uh, that was a while back, and now they need an answer.

And, uh, that was a while back, and now they need an answer.

Well, is it something you want to do?

Well, is it something you want to do?

I'd be good at it.

I'd be good at it.

Can you tell me anything about it?

Can you tell me anything about it?

You know I can't.

You know I can't.

I know.

I know.

Mission first.

Mission first.

Well, are there social perks? White House galas, maybe?

Well, are there social perks? White House galas, maybe?

The position is in Hawaii.

The position is in Hawaii.

We worked really hard to get where we're at.

We worked really hard to get where we're at.

And you're willing to just rip it all up again?

And you're willing to just rip it all up again?

Like we finally have a house that we love and a job that I like and real friends,

Like we finally have a house that we love and a job that I like and real friends,

and we're close to our families.

and we're close to our families.

I know. I understand. And if you want to stay, then we're staying.

I know. I understand. And if you want to stay, then we're staying.

That's it.

That's it.

Don't just say that 'cause I wanna hear it.

I'm not.

Don't just say that 'cause I wanna hear it.

I'm not.

I let you go once. I'm not gonna do it again.

I let you go once. I'm not gonna do it again.

(pan rattling)

(pan rattling)

Shit. I'm sorry. The pasta. It's gonna... One second.

Shit. I'm sorry. The pasta. It's gonna... One second.

(chuckles)

(chuckles)

You know, I think I actually came pretty close to getting it right this time.

You know, I think I actually came pretty close to getting it right this time.

I'll get some candles.

I'll get some candles.

Oh, my God! Ed! Ed!

Oh, my God! Ed! Ed!

Ed!

Ed!

Ed!

Ed!

ED: I know Tegretol.

ED: I know Tegretol.

I know it slows you down, 'cause I've seen it in my mom.

I know it slows you down, 'cause I've seen it in my mom.

She's taken all kinds of medications her whole life.

She's taken all kinds of medications her whole life.

Well, they work in 70% of cases.

Well, they work in 70% of cases.

Ed, epilepsy is a serious condition.

Ed, epilepsy is a serious condition.

If you have a seizure driving yourself,

If you have a seizure driving yourself,

or with someone else in the car,

or with someone else in the car,

or you're in a place where you could fall...

or you're in a place where you could fall...

This is not something to be lightly regarded.

This is not something to be lightly regarded.

It's essential you commit yourself to this medication.

It's essential you commit yourself to this medication.

Okay?

Okay?

Yeah.

Yeah.

After you.

Oh, thank you.

After you.

Oh, thank you.

I've been thinking about what the doctor said.

I've been thinking about what the doctor said.

About less stress.

About less stress.

A warmer climate could help.

A warmer climate could help.

If Hawaii is something that we decide would be better for you,

If Hawaii is something that we decide would be better for you,

I'll go.

I'll go.

(siren wailing in distance)

(siren wailing in distance)

EWEN: Janine, how'd the White House conversation go?

EWEN: Janine, how'd the White House conversation go?

JANINE (on computer): I made it quite clear that we were in possession

JANINE (on computer): I made it quite clear that we were in possession

of an authentic FISA court order.

of an authentic FISA court order.

They wanted to see it. We refused.

They wanted to see it. We refused.

Now I just pray that it's actually authentic.

Now I just pray that it's actually authentic.

Are you actually questioning that?

Are you actually questioning that?

Glenn, no one has ever seen a FISA court order.

Glenn, no one has ever seen a FISA court order.

There's no precedent here.

There's no precedent here.

Our source risked his life for that document. It's real.

Our source risked his life for that document. It's real.

Tell us, did the White House

Tell us, did the White House

make any specific claims about national security

make any specific claims about national security

that would prevent you from publishing?

that would prevent you from publishing?

No.

No.

I asked them repeatedly, and they had no substantive answer.

I asked them repeatedly, and they had no substantive answer.

There you go. What more do you want? You can go out and know you're safe.

There you go. What more do you want? You can go out and know you're safe.

Glenn, I'd like to talk to Alan before we go any further.

Glenn, I'd like to talk to Alan before we go any further.

EWEN: When does he land?

STUART: In six hours.

EWEN: When does he land?

STUART: In six hours.

No. Absolutely not. We're sitting ducks here, Janine.

No. Absolutely not. We're sitting ducks here, Janine.

It's 1:00 PM in New York.

It's 1:00 PM in New York.

If you don't get this out in four hours,

If you don't get this out in four hours,

you'll miss the evening news on the East Coast.

you'll miss the evening news on the East Coast.

But we can post later tonight.

But we can post later tonight.

I'm sorry, Glenn, but Alan's our editor-in-chief,

I'm sorry, Glenn, but Alan's our editor-in-chief,

-and I really think I have-- -Bullshit!

-and I really think I have-- -Bullshit!

The government knows that we have these documents now.

The government knows that we have these documents now.

The CIA could barge through this door any minute, and you want more time!

The CIA could barge through this door any minute, and you want more time!

Act like a fucking journalist and stop stringing us along!

Act like a fucking journalist and stop stringing us along!

I just stood my ground with the goddamn White House!

I just stood my ground with the goddamn White House!

I've risked my career. How dare you question my commitment to this story.

I've risked my career. How dare you question my commitment to this story.

Let's just keep our voices down.

No, you're right. I am questioning it.

Let's just keep our voices down.

No, you're right. I am questioning it.

This is absolutely inappropriate.

This is absolutely inappropriate.

We are publishing ourselves. You're out.

We are publishing ourselves. You're out.

All right, Glenn. We'll have it ready by 4:00 PM.

All right, Glenn. We'll have it ready by 4:00 PM.

I have to go over the story once more.

I have to go over the story once more.

-Why? -Because it still needs editing, damn you.

-Why? -Because it still needs editing, damn you.

All this fucking intelligence jargon is hurting our brains.

All this fucking intelligence jargon is hurting our brains.

This PRISM story is still incomprehensible.

This PRISM story is still incomprehensible.

PRISM is the second story, Janine. Verizon is the first story.

PRISM is the second story, Janine. Verizon is the first story.

Have it ready to post by 4:00 PM, 5:00 at the latest.

Have it ready to post by 4:00 PM, 5:00 at the latest.

(scoffs)

(scoffs)

No games, or we're gone.

No games, or we're gone.

ED (narrating): So my new job was counterspying on the Chinese

ED (narrating): So my new job was counterspying on the Chinese

at the NSA Regional Cryptological Center on Oahu.

at the NSA Regional Cryptological Center on Oahu.

You mind placing your bag down there, sir?

You mind placing your bag down there, sir?

No personal laptops, no USB sticks,

No personal laptops, no USB sticks,

no cell phones, no electronic devices of any kind?

no cell phones, no electronic devices of any kind?

No, sir.

No, sir.

(woman on PA, indistinct)

(woman on PA, indistinct)

GUARD: Thank you. Pass through.

GUARD: Thank you. Pass through.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Snow White!

Snow White!

Is that you?

Is that you?

Gabriel?

Dude, what the hell are you doing here?

Gabriel?

Dude, what the hell are you doing here?

Wow. That's amazing.

Oh, man.

Wow. That's amazing.

Oh, man.

What, do you work here?

Yeah, yeah.

What, do you work here?

Yeah, yeah.

Uh, three years, two months and, uh, five days.

Uh, three years, two months and, uh, five days.

-But who's counting, right? -Yeah.

-But who's counting, right? -Yeah.

It's like who knew a secret underground World War II air base

It's like who knew a secret underground World War II air base

would become munchie heaven for a thousand geeks, right?

would become munchie heaven for a thousand geeks, right?

So there's good pizza?

Good pizza, yeah.

So there's good pizza?

Good pizza, yeah.

That's important.

Elevator's slow as shit though.

That's important.

Elevator's slow as shit though.

-Jesus. -It's something else, huh?

-Jesus. -It's something else, huh?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, uh, what deck are you working on?

So, uh, what deck are you working on?

You, uh-- You NTOC or ROC?

You, uh-- You NTOC or ROC?

Between you and me?

Yeah.

Between you and me?

Yeah.

NTOC.

Cool.

NTOC.

Cool.

You get to hack the hackers. You're coming up in the world.

You get to hack the hackers. You're coming up in the world.

(knocks)

Fresh brains for you, Trevor.

(knocks)

Fresh brains for you, Trevor.

Trevor James, Interactive Ops, division chief.

Trevor James, Interactive Ops, division chief.

Ed Snowden.

I've been briefed.

Ed Snowden.

I've been briefed.

Next door is NTOC. Defense.

Next door is NTOC. Defense.

That's where you'll be working.

That's where you'll be working.

Over here we have ROC, our offense.

Over here we have ROC, our offense.

Now, I move between the two.

Now, I move between the two.

We run a tight ship here, Snowden.

Yes, sir.

We run a tight ship here, Snowden.

Yes, sir.

You'll be working with Haynes.

Hey.

You'll be working with Haynes.

Hey.

Patrick Haynes.

Nice to meet you.

Patrick Haynes.

Nice to meet you.

-Good to have you. -You watch out for him.

-Good to have you. -You watch out for him.

That's the smartest guy in the building right here.

That's the smartest guy in the building right here.

Come on.

Bro, how many languages you speak again?

Come on.

Bro, how many languages you speak again?

I mean, seven in code, six spoken, two signs.

I mean, seven in code, six spoken, two signs.

That's cool.

That's cool.

Great. Another language I can't understand.

Great. Another language I can't understand.

Uh, I'll check you later, Ed.

See you.

Uh, I'll check you later, Ed.

See you.

TREVOR: Wait for it.

TREVOR: Wait for it.

Any moment.

Any moment.

MAN: We got 'em.

TREVOR: Lights over Waziristan, gentlemen.

MAN: We got 'em.

TREVOR: Lights over Waziristan, gentlemen.

-Way to go. -So what exactly do we contribute to this?

-Way to go. -So what exactly do we contribute to this?

The underside of that Reaper drone is fixed with a big-ass antenna,

The underside of that Reaper drone is fixed with a big-ass antenna,

snarfing the hardware ID of anything that broadcasts.

snarfing the hardware ID of anything that broadcasts.

We do the geolocator.

We do the geolocator.

My friend Tasha here at the air force rains hellfire. There she is now.

My friend Tasha here at the air force rains hellfire. There she is now.

Hey, Trev. You likin' the show?

Hey, Trev. You likin' the show?

You know it. We track 'em, you whack 'em.

You know it. We track 'em, you whack 'em.

ED: And who did we just track?

ED: And who did we just track?

Not who, what.

Not who, what.

We're targeting bad guys' cell phones. Sometimes the SIM card.

We're targeting bad guys' cell phones. Sometimes the SIM card.

How do we know the bad guy is in possession of the bad cell phone when we strike?

How do we know the bad guy is in possession of the bad cell phone when we strike?

Well, we don't.

Course we do.

Well, we don't.

Course we do.

JSOC and CIA have their people in the field.

JSOC and CIA have their people in the field.

What's the program name?

What's the program name?

Epic Shelter.

Epic Shelter.

It was, uh, originally some backup program for, um--

It was, uh, originally some backup program for, um--

Catastrophic site failure.

Yeah.

Catastrophic site failure.

Yeah.

How did you know that?

How did you know that?

-I built it. -You?

-I built it. -You?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, actually, I've been thinking about, uh, another use for Epic Shelter.

You know, actually, I've been thinking about, uh, another use for Epic Shelter.

What'd you have in mind?

What'd you have in mind?

I was chatting with Jim Lowell about how there's so many programs--

I was chatting with Jim Lowell about how there's so many programs--

-Deputy Director Lowell? -Yeah. Yeah.

-Deputy Director Lowell? -Yeah. Yeah.

And we were saying there's so many programs nowadays,

And we were saying there's so many programs nowadays,

it's kind of impossible to keep track of them anymore, right?

it's kind of impossible to keep track of them anymore, right?

So why not create a centralized database?

So why not create a centralized database?

Oh, like an index.

Yeah, exactly.

Oh, like an index.

Yeah, exactly.

Something that updates in real time.

Something that updates in real time.

We've already got Epic Shelter collecting our finished intel.

We've already got Epic Shelter collecting our finished intel.

We just need a Web portal to catalog it, make it searchable.

We just need a Web portal to catalog it, make it searchable.

Let me think about it. In any case, I'd have to run it past Fort Meade.

Let me think about it. In any case, I'd have to run it past Fort Meade.

Of course.

Did you have a name?

Of course.

Did you have a name?

Yeah, if it's not taken, I'd call it Heartbeat.

Yeah, if it's not taken, I'd call it Heartbeat.

Heartbeat.

Heartbeat.

Five, four, three, two, one.

Five, four, three, two, one.

Engage target.

Engage target.

LINDSAY: You okay down there?

LINDSAY: You okay down there?

Yep.

Yep.

See, this is why I keep saying we need to hike more.

See, this is why I keep saying we need to hike more.

You're right.

You're right.

-Hey, can you look at me? -Oh!

-Hey, can you look at me? -Oh!

Come on! It's been years.

Come on! It's been years.

By social media standards, you don't even exist anymore.

By social media standards, you don't even exist anymore.

Just one.

Just one.

Hey, smile. Show me your teeth.

Hey, smile. Show me your teeth.

My elusive E finally captured.

My elusive E finally captured.

So now I'm a viable boyfriend?

Yes.

So now I'm a viable boyfriend?

Yes.

(laughs)

(laughs)

Such a shame. You used to be such a cute little model.

Such a shame. You used to be such a cute little model.

Little?

Yeah.

Little?

Yeah.

Was I little?

Wait! (laughing, squealing)

Was I little?

Wait! (laughing, squealing)

Stop!

Stop!

Oh, my God.

What?

Oh, my God.

What?

Think you got some sun.

(laughs)

Think you got some sun.

(laughs)

I'm serious. It looks good.

I'm serious. It looks good.

Well, that's impossible.

Well, that's impossible.

Hey, um, I've been meaning to ask you, by the way.

Hey, um, I've been meaning to ask you, by the way.

Did you switch pharmacies?

Did you switch pharmacies?

'Cause I tried to pick up your prescription,

'Cause I tried to pick up your prescription,

and... I couldn't.

and... I couldn't.

Why'd you do that?

Why'd you do that?

Uh, because I was there and thought it would be helpful.

Uh, because I was there and thought it would be helpful.

I stopped taking the Tegretol.

I stopped taking the Tegretol.

What?

What?

When?

A couple months ago.

When?

A couple months ago.

-And you're just now telling me? -I wanted to tell you.

-And you're just now telling me? -I wanted to tell you.

I did. I just-- I can't take that stuff.

I did. I just-- I can't take that stuff.

It makes me groggy, and I need to be sharp for work.

It makes me groggy, and I need to be sharp for work.

I need to be on the ball all the time.

I need to be on the ball all the time.

What is it about this fucking job that makes it more important than your life?

What is it about this fucking job that makes it more important than your life?

(scoffs)

I don't understand.

(scoffs)

I don't understand.

Our government--

Our government--

Our government what?

Our government what?

Our government is hemorrhaging billions of dollars every year

Our government is hemorrhaging billions of dollars every year

to Chinese hackers.

to Chinese hackers.

And I've been hired to shut them down.

And I've been hired to shut them down.

A lot of people are depending on me.

A lot of people are depending on me.

More so than anyone else?

More so than anyone else?

Yes.

Yes.

No, this--

No, this--

This is bullshit.

This is bullshit.

We didn't come to Hawaii for you to heal, did we?

We didn't come to Hawaii for you to heal, did we?

There was never gonna be a less stressful job out here.

There was never gonna be a less stressful job out here.

Look, I feel like I'm made to do this.

Look, I feel like I'm made to do this.

And if I don't do it, then...

And if I don't do it, then...

I don't know anybody else that can.

I don't know anybody else that can.

It's like I'm--

It's like I'm--

I'm on a trajectory that I can't turn back from.

I'm on a trajectory that I can't turn back from.

You can always turn back.

You can always turn back.

What I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes-or-no answer

What I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes-or-no answer

to the question, does the NSA collect any type of data at all

to the question, does the NSA collect any type of data at all

on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?

on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?

No, sir.

No, sir.

SENATOR WYDEN: It does not?

SENATOR WYDEN: It does not?

Not wittingly.

Not wittingly.

There are cases where they could inadvertently,

There are cases where they could inadvertently,

perhaps, uh, collect,

perhaps, uh, collect,

but not wittingly.

but not wittingly.

Oh, really?

Oh, really?

Thank you. I'll have additional questions to give you in writing on that point.

Thank you. I'll have additional questions to give you in writing on that point.

Okay, so, uh, what I wanted to show you guys

Okay, so, uh, what I wanted to show you guys

is the slide I ran across while building this indexing program.

is the slide I ran across while building this indexing program.

And what is this?

And what is this?

This is data collection for the month of March,

This is data collection for the month of March,

worldwide, e-mails and Skype calls.

worldwide, e-mails and Skype calls.

So, France, 70 million. Germany, 500 million.

So, France, 70 million. Germany, 500 million.

Brazil, two billion.

Brazil, two billion.

Inside the US,

Inside the US,

3.1 billion e-mails and calls.

3.1 billion e-mails and calls.

That's not including any of the telecom company data.

That's not including any of the telecom company data.

Okay, so what's the collection in Russia?

Okay, so what's the collection in Russia?

Russia is 1.5 billion.

Russia is 1.5 billion.

Wait, so we're collecting twice as much in the US as we are in Russia?

Wait, so we're collecting twice as much in the US as we are in Russia?

-Yeah, I figured it was a lot, but... -This shit is out of hand, man.

-Yeah, I figured it was a lot, but... -This shit is out of hand, man.

-Wait. Have you shown this to anyone else? -No, you guys are the first.

-Wait. Have you shown this to anyone else? -No, you guys are the first.

Yeah, yeah, you know, I'd be careful about that.

Yeah, yeah, you know, I'd be careful about that.

It could seem like you're rocking the boat.

Yeah, you're right.

It could seem like you're rocking the boat.

Yeah, you're right.

I just, uh-- I needed to know if I was the only one that thought this was crazy.

I just, uh-- I needed to know if I was the only one that thought this was crazy.

What the fuck's going on?

What the fuck's going on?

Hey, Trev.

What are you doing in here?

Hey, Trev.

What are you doing in here?

It's nothing. I was just showing them this one slide. I needed some input.

It's nothing. I was just showing them this one slide. I needed some input.

-Why the heat map? -It-It's my bad, Trev.

-Why the heat map? -It-It's my bad, Trev.

I made a bet with Ed about which country we were collecting the most signals from.

I made a bet with Ed about which country we were collecting the most signals from.

He said Iran, I said Pakistan.

He said Iran, I said Pakistan.

Who won?

Who won?

Ed.

(chuckles)

Ed.

(chuckles)

Yeah, I need to head out. I'll see you guys.

Yeah, I need to head out. I'll see you guys.

You're going down next time, man.

Yeah, okay.

You're going down next time, man.

Yeah, okay.

No more bets.

No more bets.

And I don't want anyone unauthorized in here again.

And I don't want anyone unauthorized in here again.

-Especially not with Heartbeat. -You're right. Won't happen again.

-Especially not with Heartbeat. -You're right. Won't happen again.

(exhales)

(exhales)

(buzzing)

(buzzing)

♪ I ♪

♪ I ♪

CROWD: Happy birthday!

CROWD: Happy birthday!

♪ I see the sun ♪

(applause)

♪ I see the sun ♪

(applause)

MAN: In Vegas, looking at Afghanistan, so we're running late hours.

MAN: In Vegas, looking at Afghanistan, so we're running late hours.

This blurry object comes wandering into the strike zone.

This blurry object comes wandering into the strike zone.

We all knew that it was a kid.

We all knew that it was a kid.

Poof. He's gone.

Poof. He's gone.

We called in for clarification, and the report came back that it was a dog.

We called in for clarification, and the report came back that it was a dog.

Okay. Fine.

Okay. Fine.

Shift's long. Day or night. I don't remember.

Shift's long. Day or night. I don't remember.

But same village, two, three days later.

But same village, two, three days later.

We see the funeral party. We knew it was a kid that they were burying.

We see the funeral party. We knew it was a kid that they were burying.

Moms and dads wailing.

Moms and dads wailing.

Then the order comes down. Pretty clear. Hit 'em.

Then the order comes down. Pretty clear. Hit 'em.

Poof.

Poof.

And they are gone in a cloud of dust.

And they are gone in a cloud of dust.

I mean, all of them. The whole fuckin' family.

I mean, all of them. The whole fuckin' family.

But the crazy thing is,

But the crazy thing is,

you come home after work, kiss your wife, your kids,

you come home after work, kiss your wife, your kids,

back to work the next day.

back to work the next day.

Pretty soon, you know, it just all becomes routine.

Pretty soon, you know, it just all becomes routine.

Fuck that.

Fuck that.

You make it sound criminal, man. It's war. It's a job.

You make it sound criminal, man. It's war. It's a job.

Uh, I don't know, man.

Uh, I don't know, man.

You saying jobs can't be criminal?

You saying jobs can't be criminal?

Not if you're working for the government.

Not if you're working for the government.

You ever, uh, hear about the Nuremberg trials, Trev?

You ever, uh, hear about the Nuremberg trials, Trev?

They weren't that long ago.

They weren't that long ago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And we hung the Nazi big shots, right?

And we hung the Nazi big shots, right?

Yeah, well, the big shots were the first trial.

Yeah, well, the big shots were the first trial.

But then the next trial were just the judges and lawyers and policemen

But then the next trial were just the judges and lawyers and policemen

and guards and ordinary people

and guards and ordinary people

just doing their jobs, following orders.

just doing their jobs, following orders.

That's where we got the Nuremberg principles,

That's where we got the Nuremberg principles,

which then the UN made into international law,

which then the UN made into international law,

just in case ordinary jobs become criminal again.

just in case ordinary jobs become criminal again.

Just... sayin'.

Just... sayin'.

(screaming)

(screaming)

(people shouting)

(people shouting)

See, I told you not to grab my hand.

See, I told you not to grab my hand.

(excited chattering, faint)

(excited chattering, faint)

(voices echoing)

(voices echoing)

(chattering, faint)

(chattering, faint)

...fucking touch me anymore!

...fucking touch me anymore!

MAN: Whoa, dude! Dude, you okay?

MAN: Whoa, dude! Dude, you okay?

Ed, are you okay?

You okay, man?

Ed, are you okay?

You okay, man?

Get away. Don't touch him.

Get away. Don't touch him.

MAN: Don't touch him. Don't touch him.

MAN: Don't touch him. Don't touch him.

Hey, Ed. How are you?

Hey, Ed. How are you?

-How's your health? -Hey, Corbin.

-How's your health? -Hey, Corbin.

Uh, it's...

Uh, it's...

It's fine. Thanks for asking.

It's fine. Thanks for asking.

Must be nerve-racking living with that condition.

Must be nerve-racking living with that condition.

You wouldn't know it to look at your numbers--

You wouldn't know it to look at your numbers--

200 Chinese IPs down in your first four months.

200 Chinese IPs down in your first four months.

Those are, uh, internal numbers.

Those are, uh, internal numbers.

Your, uh, colleague Trevor comes out of the CIA like you.

Your, uh, colleague Trevor comes out of the CIA like you.

He's been, uh, keeping me informed on your progress.

He's been, uh, keeping me informed on your progress.

(chuckling) It's, uh, outstanding work.

(chuckling) It's, uh, outstanding work.

-Heartbeat as well. -Thank you.

-Heartbeat as well. -Thank you.

Thanks. That means a lot.

Thanks. That means a lot.

Lowell is very pleased. He, uh, sends his regards.

Lowell is very pleased. He, uh, sends his regards.

That's great to hear.

That's great to hear.

He, um--

He, um--

He doesn't know about your heat map conversations

He doesn't know about your heat map conversations

or some of the ideas you've expressed to your colleagues.

or some of the ideas you've expressed to your colleagues.

And he's not going to.

And he's not going to.

(clicks tongue) Yeah.

(clicks tongue) Yeah.

Uh... You know, Heartbeat is proving a tricky project.

Uh... You know, Heartbeat is proving a tricky project.

Collating from multiple agencies and knowing where to pull from.

Collating from multiple agencies and knowing where to pull from.

It has helped to talk it over with colleagues.

It has helped to talk it over with colleagues.

I believe in you, Ed.

I believe in you, Ed.

Which is why nothing happened to you after the derog in Geneva.

Which is why nothing happened to you after the derog in Geneva.

And I'm very grateful. You've looked out for me.

And I'm very grateful. You've looked out for me.

Or after you, uh,

Or after you, uh,

omitted the truth in your last polygraph.

omitted the truth in your last polygraph.

What was it you were withholding exactly?

What was it you were withholding exactly?

Hmm?

Hmm?

You remember that day in class

You remember that day in class

you were talking to us about the FISA court?

you were talking to us about the FISA court?

You said that they'd approved Bush's wiretapping programs.

You said that they'd approved Bush's wiretapping programs.

Sometimes we're restricted from telling the whole truth.

Sometimes we're restricted from telling the whole truth.

Doesn't give us permission to lie.

Doesn't give us permission to lie.

Come on, Corbin.

Come on, Corbin.

The director of national intelligence just lied to Congress.

The director of national intelligence just lied to Congress.

Sorry.

Sorry.

Look at me.

Look at me.

Did you access an unauthorized program

Did you access an unauthorized program

that I did not know about?

that I did not know about?

Yes.

Yes.

It was, uh--

It was, uh--

It was at Geneva. It was Lindsay.

It was at Geneva. It was Lindsay.

I was jealous, and I'm sorry.

I was jealous, and I'm sorry.

I never did it again.

I never did it again.

Listen.

Listen.

I know it's been up and down with you and Lindsay since Geneva.

I know it's been up and down with you and Lindsay since Geneva.

It's-- It's tough to keep any relationship going.

It's-- It's tough to keep any relationship going.

Few of us do.

Few of us do.

So, if it'll give you any peace of mind, I can assure you,

So, if it'll give you any peace of mind, I can assure you,

she's not sleeping with that photographer friend of hers.

she's not sleeping with that photographer friend of hers.

If that's what you're thinking.

If that's what you're thinking.

I have to go to a Five Eyes conference in Sydney in a couple of weeks.

I have to go to a Five Eyes conference in Sydney in a couple of weeks.

I'll stop off in Hawaii on the way back.

I'll stop off in Hawaii on the way back.

Okay?

Okay?

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'll see you soon.

I'll see you soon.

(phone rings)

(phone rings)

Hey, Dad.

Hey, Dad.

Good. Did you get the e-mail that I sent you with the photos?

Good. Did you get the e-mail that I sent you with the photos?

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Well, I was hoping that you could give me some--

Well, I was hoping that you could give me some--

What are you doing?

What are you doing?

Sit down.

Sit down.

Your e-mail's being monitored.

Your e-mail's being monitored.

So?

So?

No, it's different now. It's not passive collection.

No, it's different now. It's not passive collection.

It's full-take surveillance.

It's full-take surveillance.

It's all of your e-mails, calls, texts, social media, everything.

It's all of your e-mails, calls, texts, social media, everything.

It's also possible that the house is bugged.

It's also possible that the house is bugged.

-I'm not sure. -By who?

-I'm not sure. -By who?

By a senior officer at the CIA. (sighs)

By a senior officer at the CIA. (sighs)

You in trouble? Is it the Chinese thing?

You in trouble? Is it the Chinese thing?

Look, there's things that I wish I could tell you,

Look, there's things that I wish I could tell you,

but I can't because you could get very hurt.

but I can't because you could get very hurt.

What's keeping you safe is that you don't know anything.

What's keeping you safe is that you don't know anything.

I'm sorry. I really am. I didn't want any of this for you.

I'm sorry. I really am. I didn't want any of this for you.

But I know you would think I was doing the right thing.

But I know you would think I was doing the right thing.

So, just listen to me for a sec, okay?

So, just listen to me for a sec, okay?

When we go back in the house, everything has to appear normal.

When we go back in the house, everything has to appear normal.

We're gonna act like nothing has changed.

We're gonna act like nothing has changed.

But if you do notice something that's weird, you need to tell me right away.

But if you do notice something that's weird, you need to tell me right away.

And you're gonna use an encrypted e-mail that I'm setting up for you.

And you're gonna use an encrypted e-mail that I'm setting up for you.

Oh, my God. I don't think I can do this.

Yes, you can. I know you can.

Oh, my God. I don't think I can do this.

Yes, you can. I know you can.

Do I even have a choice?

Do I even have a choice?

I'm asking you to trust me.

I'm asking you to trust me.

And, Linds, I think it'd be best if you went back to Maryland for a while.

And, Linds, I think it'd be best if you went back to Maryland for a while.

Tell your parents that I'm away on a business trip

Tell your parents that I'm away on a business trip

and that you're homesick.

and that you're homesick.

Are you going away?

Are you going away?

Yes. But just for a little while.

Yes. But just for a little while.

No.

No.

No, I can't go.

Please. Just until I get back.

No, I can't go.

Please. Just until I get back.

I can't go.

I can't go.

You just said that we have to appear like nothing's changed.

You just said that we have to appear like nothing's changed.

If both of us left at the same time, wouldn't that seem suspicious?

If both of us left at the same time, wouldn't that seem suspicious?

I will do this for you.

I will do this for you.

But it is the last time.

But it is the last time.

(typing)

(typing)

(siren wailing in distance)

(siren wailing in distance)

MAN: Got a common gateway interface here. Common gateway interface.

MAN: Got a common gateway interface here. Common gateway interface.

Yo. You hear about Trevor, bro?

Yo. You hear about Trevor, bro?

No, what?

No, what?

You remember that op to own the Internet in Syria?

You remember that op to own the Internet in Syria?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Trevor and his TAO team crashed the core router.

Trevor and his TAO team crashed the core router.

-Bro, the whole country's gone dark. -Jesus Christ.

-Bro, the whole country's gone dark. -Jesus Christ.

Figure it out!

Figure it out!

GABRIEL: Poor bastards.

GABRIEL: Poor bastards.

Wow. Okay, I'm gonna, uh-- I gotta get to work.

Wow. Okay, I'm gonna, uh-- I gotta get to work.

Yeah, yeah, me too.

Yeah, yeah, me too.

Ed, how's, uh-- How's Heartbeat coming?

Ed, how's, uh-- How's Heartbeat coming?

It's close.

It's close.

Um... it's very close.

Um... it's very close.

TREVOR: Pull it up on this monitor.

MAN: I'm trying to access--

TREVOR: Pull it up on this monitor.

MAN: I'm trying to access--

Don't tell me you're involved in this too?

Don't tell me you're involved in this too?

Well, Trevor fucking roped me into going through their zero-day exploit codes.

Well, Trevor fucking roped me into going through their zero-day exploit codes.

This thing is a fucking mess, man.

This thing is a fucking mess, man.

Why did I agree to this?

Good luck.

Why did I agree to this?

Good luck.

I thought I could-- Help them.

I thought I could-- Help them.

(typing)

(typing)

(chimes)

(chimes)

(no audible dialogue)

(no audible dialogue)

Okay. Back to work, guys. No, Patrick, show me.

Okay. Back to work, guys. No, Patrick, show me.

(chatters, faint)

(chatters, faint)

(inaudible)

(inaudible)

-Talk about getting held out to dry. -Yeah. We're resetting?

-Talk about getting held out to dry. -Yeah. We're resetting?

Trouble with the navy?

Trouble with the navy?

One of those idiots ripped some bullshit piece of Israeli code and jammed it down our payload.

One of those idiots ripped some bullshit piece of Israeli code and jammed it down our payload.

-Do you fucking believe that? -Script kiddies.

-Do you fucking believe that? -Script kiddies.

I know, I know. I should have listened to you. Goddamn it.

I know, I know. I should have listened to you. Goddamn it.

Is this it?

Here. Yeah, this is it.

Is this it?

Here. Yeah, this is it.

I'm gonna make the goddamn Israelis take the fall for this.

I'm gonna make the goddamn Israelis take the fall for this.

Come on.

Come on.

Got it?

I'm not taking the fall for this.

Got it?

I'm not taking the fall for this.

Patrick.

Patrick.

(man on speakers, indistinct)

(man on speakers, indistinct)

WOMAN: Come on, Trev. Hold on.

WOMAN: Come on, Trev. Hold on.

MAN: Nothing. Still nothing.

MAN: Nothing. Still nothing.

(Ed chuckles)

(Ed chuckles)

You, uh-- You headed home already?

Yeah.

You, uh-- You headed home already?

Yeah.

I'm, uh, not feeling so well.

I'm, uh, not feeling so well.

Might not be in tomorrow either.

Might not be in tomorrow either.

You know, Trevor's kind of busy. Maybe you could let him know for me?

You know, Trevor's kind of busy. Maybe you could let him know for me?

Yeah. Yeah, man. It'd be my pleasure.

Yeah. Yeah, man. It'd be my pleasure.

You know, if you're really not feeling well, dude,

You know, if you're really not feeling well, dude,

maybe you should go back to the States and see your doctor.

maybe you should go back to the States and see your doctor.

I think that, you know, folks would understand that.

I think that, you know, folks would understand that.

That sounds like a smart thing.

(bell dings)

That sounds like a smart thing.

(bell dings)

Take care of yourself.

Take care of yourself.

Yeah, you too, bro.

Yeah, you too, bro.

(chattering)

(chattering)

MAN: Hey, Joey.

Yeah.

MAN: Hey, Joey.

Yeah.

(chattering continues)

(chattering continues)

-Hey. -Hey.

-Hey. -Hey.

You ever play with one of these?

You ever play with one of these?

Yeah, when I was a kid.

Yeah, when I was a kid.

Yeah. You should try it. It's hard.

Yeah. You should try it. It's hard.

I can't figure this out.

I can't figure this out.

(chimes)

(chimes)

I don't know about this.

I don't know about this.

Yeah, you gotta start with the white cross, actually, then you do the corners.

Yeah, you gotta start with the white cross, actually, then you do the corners.

Uh-huh. Oh, man. Look, I love these things.

Uh-huh. Oh, man. Look, I love these things.

-Hey, have a good weekend, man. -You too, buddy.

-Hey, have a good weekend, man. -You too, buddy.

All right.

All right.

LAURA: It's live.

LAURA: It's live.

There's a link to the FISA court order.

There's a link to the FISA court order.

(chuckles)

(chuckles)

Well done, Janine.

Well done, Janine.

I told you she wasn't a pushover.

I told you she wasn't a pushover.

Well, it feels so goddamn good to be wrong.

Well, it feels so goddamn good to be wrong.

MAN: Breaking news tonight: Reports that through a secret court order,

MAN: Breaking news tonight: Reports that through a secret court order,

the Obama administration is collecting the phone records

the Obama administration is collecting the phone records

of millions of Verizon customers.

of millions of Verizon customers.

That's been reported by The Guardian newspaper in the UK.

That's been reported by The Guardian newspaper in the UK.

They said the court order shows that all the information is going

They said the court order shows that all the information is going

to the National Security Agency.

to the National Security Agency.

(gasps, laughs)

(gasps, laughs)

How's that for mainstream media, Glenn?

How's that for mainstream media, Glenn?

They can't shut this down now. We've got four more days of it.

They can't shut this down now. We've got four more days of it.

They have no idea what they're in store for.

That's fantastic!

They have no idea what they're in store for.

That's fantastic!

...former speaker of the house is on the grill and joins me now.

...former speaker of the house is on the grill and joins me now.

MAN #2: Another explosive article has just appeared,

MAN #2: Another explosive article has just appeared,

this time in The Washington Post.

this time in The Washington Post.

It's breaking news, and it reveals another broad and secret

It's breaking news, and it reveals another broad and secret

US government surveillance program.

US government surveillance program.

The Washington Post and The Guardian in London reporting

The Washington Post and The Guardian in London reporting

that the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly

that the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly

into the central servers of nine leading Internet companies

into the central servers of nine leading Internet companies

including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, AOL, Skype, YouTube and Apple.

including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, AOL, Skype, YouTube and Apple.

The Post says they're extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails,

The Post says they're extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails,

documents and connection logs

documents and connection logs

that enable analysts to track a person's movements and contacts over time.

that enable analysts to track a person's movements and contacts over time.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: In the abstract, you can complain about Big Brother

PRESIDENT OBAMA: In the abstract, you can complain about Big Brother

and how this is a potential program run amok.

and how this is a potential program run amok.

But when you actually look at the details,

But when you actually look at the details,

then I think we've struck the right balance.

then I think we've struck the right balance.

WOMAN: US President Barack Obama staunchly defends US government programs,

WOMAN: US President Barack Obama staunchly defends US government programs,

insisting that they were conducted with broad safeguards

insisting that they were conducted with broad safeguards

and to protect against abuse.

and to protect against abuse.

GLENN (on TV): He reached the conclusion that what was happening

GLENN (on TV): He reached the conclusion that what was happening

inside this really secretive agency

inside this really secretive agency

was very threatening and menacing to privacy rights, to Internet freedom,

was very threatening and menacing to privacy rights, to Internet freedom,

to basic political liberty,

to basic political liberty,

not only in the United States, but all around the world.

not only in the United States, but all around the world.

And he felt it was his duty as a human being to disclose it.

And he felt it was his duty as a human being to disclose it.

(beeps)

(beeps)

Uh, my name's Ed Snowden. I'm 29 years old.

Uh, my name's Ed Snowden. I'm 29 years old.

I work for Booz Allen Hamilton

I work for Booz Allen Hamilton

as an infrastructure analyst for NSA in Hawaii.

as an infrastructure analyst for NSA in Hawaii.

(speaking Chinese)

(speaking Chinese)

(speaking German)

(speaking German)

(speaking various foreign languages)

(speaking various foreign languages)

The identity of the man who set the Obama admin--

The identity of the man who set the Obama admin--

You can't come forward

You can't come forward

against the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world

against the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world

without expecting to have some risk.

without expecting to have some risk.

They're just such powerful adversaries.

They're just such powerful adversaries.

No one can meaningfully oppose them.

No one can meaningfully oppose them.

He did it.

He did it.

If they want to get you, they will get you, in time.

If they want to get you, they will get you, in time.

The kid did it.

The kid did it.

It's just gonna get worse for the next generation,

It's just gonna get worse for the next generation,

if they extend the capabilities of this sort of architecture of oppression.

if they extend the capabilities of this sort of architecture of oppression.

You realize that you might be willing to accept any risk,

You realize that you might be willing to accept any risk,

as long as the public is able to make their own decision

as long as the public is able to make their own decision

about how this is applied.

about how this is applied.

Because even if you haven't done anything wrong,

Because even if you haven't done anything wrong,

you're being watched and recorded.

you're being watched and recorded.

(phone ringing)

(phone ringing)

Look, I had access to the entire intelligence community.

Look, I had access to the entire intelligence community.

So if I had wanted to harm the US,

So if I had wanted to harm the US,

you could shut down the entire surveillance system in an afternoon.

you could shut down the entire surveillance system in an afternoon.

But that was never my intention.

But that was never my intention.

And I think anybody that's making that argument,

And I think anybody that's making that argument,

they have to think,

they have to think,

if they were in my position, living in Hawaii, in paradise,

if they were in my position, living in Hawaii, in paradise,

making a ton of money,

making a ton of money,

what would it take to make you leave everything behind?

what would it take to make you leave everything behind?

The fear that I think I have the most

The fear that I think I have the most

in regards to the outcome for America of these disclosures

in regards to the outcome for America of these disclosures

is that nothing will change.

is that nothing will change.

In the coming months and the coming years, it'll just get worse.

In the coming months and the coming years, it'll just get worse.

And then eventually, at some point,

And then eventually, at some point,

some new leader will be elected

some new leader will be elected

who flips the switch,

who flips the switch,

and the people won't be able to do anything by that point

and the people won't be able to do anything by that point

to oppose it.

to oppose it.

And it'll be turnkey tyranny.

And it'll be turnkey tyranny.

How you holding up?

How you holding up?

Yeah, I'll... I'll be fine.

Yeah, I'll... I'll be fine.

It's you guys that have to start watching out for yourselves now.

It's you guys that have to start watching out for yourselves now.

You know, if you have any reason to believe

You know, if you have any reason to believe

that you're about to be raided or intercepted or breached in any way,

that you're about to be raided or intercepted or breached in any way,

you format and destroy all the data immediately.

you format and destroy all the data immediately.

You have the encrypted backups.

You have the encrypted backups.

And now, I...

And now, I...

I no longer have any access to these files myself.

I no longer have any access to these files myself.

You guys have them all.

You guys have them all.

Uh, keep the focus on the stories. That's all that matters.

Uh, keep the focus on the stories. That's all that matters.

Uh, if you'll excuse me, it's, uh...

Uh, if you'll excuse me, it's, uh...

We should all get some rest. We can use it.

We should all get some rest. We can use it.

Yeah. I should probably lay down on a soft bed

Yeah. I should probably lay down on a soft bed

while I still have one available, right?

while I still have one available, right?

You rest well.

Thank you.

You rest well.

Thank you.

See you tomorrow.

Good night.

See you tomorrow.

Good night.

(door opens)

(door opens)

(door closes)

(door closes)

Can you at least tell me where you're going?

Can you at least tell me where you're going?

(chuckles)

(chuckles)

Listen, I know that I'm--

Shh.

Listen, I know that I'm--

Shh.

(bell dings)

(bell dings)

Ewen, I'm on the second floor.

Ewen, I'm on the second floor.

I don't see Tibbo.

I don't see Tibbo.

Oh, no, no, wait. Okay. I think I see him.

Oh, no, no, wait. Okay. I think I see him.

Shit!

Shit!

There's press swarming all over the hotel.

There's press swarming all over the hotel.

Yeah, I don't know. I'll figure it out.

Yeah, I don't know. I'll figure it out.

I'll stop them with a press conference or something.

I'll stop them with a press conference or something.

I'm Glenn. Look, we really appreciate this.

I'm Glenn. Look, we really appreciate this.

We understand you're one of the best lawyers in Hong Kong.

We understand you're one of the best lawyers in Hong Kong.

We'll do our best. We're gonna take him to the UN first. Then I prefer not to reveal.

We'll do our best. We're gonna take him to the UN first. Then I prefer not to reveal.

I understand. Shit. They spotted me.

I understand. Shit. They spotted me.

You guys get going.

You guys get going.

(loud chattering)

(loud chattering)

Okay, I will answer your questions in an orderly fashion, please.

Okay, I will answer your questions in an orderly fashion, please.

Did you get them?

Yeah, this is the best I could do.

Did you get them?

Yeah, this is the best I could do.

You're meeting Tibbo in five minutes on the sky bridge opposite the large mall.

You're meeting Tibbo in five minutes on the sky bridge opposite the large mall.

I've met a lot of astonishing people in my life, but you...

I've met a lot of astonishing people in my life, but you...

(chuckling)

(chuckling)

Okay, laddie. Off you go.

Okay, laddie. Off you go.

I won't let you down, huh?

I won't let you down, huh?

Oh, you'd make a shitty journalist without a camera.

Oh, you'd make a shitty journalist without a camera.

Are you sure?

Yeah.

Are you sure?

Yeah.

Okay. That's... That's a great idea.

Okay. That's... That's a great idea.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Oh! You don't want to leave your luck behind.

Oh! You don't want to leave your luck behind.

Oh.

Oh.

I think I'd like you to have that.

I think I'd like you to have that.

Thanks for everything.

Thanks for everything.

Thank you.

Thank you.

(chattering)

(chattering)

I have a van on the street.

I have a van on the street.

WOMAN: NSA leaker Edward Snowden has now been charged formally

WOMAN: NSA leaker Edward Snowden has now been charged formally

with espionage, theft and conversion of government property.

with espionage, theft and conversion of government property.

US officials have asked Hong Kong to detain the former contractor

US officials have asked Hong Kong to detain the former contractor

on a provisional arrest warrant.

on a provisional arrest warrant.

Snowden has been in Hong Kong since May.

Snowden has been in Hong Kong since May.

WOMAN #2 (on TV): ...reportedly on May 20--

WOMAN #2 (on TV): ...reportedly on May 20--

MAN (on TV): ...outside the cube room.

MAN (on TV): ...outside the cube room.

Snowden checked out of a luxury hotel in Hong Kong where he had been holed up.

Snowden checked out of a luxury hotel in Hong Kong where he had been holed up.

ED (narrating): You might turn your eyes away.

ED (narrating): You might turn your eyes away.

WOMAN: ...not likely to take action against him without an arrest warrant.

WOMAN: ...not likely to take action against him without an arrest warrant.

MAN: Snowden, if he tried to cross a border, he could be intercepted and detained.

MAN: Snowden, if he tried to cross a border, he could be intercepted and detained.

MAN #2: Snowden is still in hiding.

MAN #2: Snowden is still in hiding.

MAN #3: But the Americans are now closing in.

MAN #3: But the Americans are now closing in.

They almost certainly know where he is.

They almost certainly know where he is.

They just need Hong Kong's approval to get him.

They just need Hong Kong's approval to get him.

WOMAN: The Hong Kong government does have an extradition agreement with Washington,

WOMAN: The Hong Kong government does have an extradition agreement with Washington,

but the ultimate decision...

but the ultimate decision...

WOMAN #2: So the big question here is where is he now?

WOMAN #2: So the big question here is where is he now?

(knocking)

(knocking)

(chatters)

Thank you.

(chatters)

Thank you.

This is Ed. Uh, Ed, Mayana.

This is Ed. Uh, Ed, Mayana.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Welcome.

Thank you.

(speaking foreign language)

ED: Thank you.

(speaking foreign language)

ED: Thank you.

TIBBO: These are good people. They won't talk.

TIBBO: These are good people. They won't talk.

I've been handling their cases for years. They're like you.

I've been handling their cases for years. They're like you.

-That's so nice. -They're stateless.

-That's so nice. -They're stateless.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're waiting on the UN application for refugee status.

We're waiting on the UN application for refugee status.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In case you're arrested, this is where you can call me.

In case you're arrested, this is where you can call me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good.

Good.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

You may not feel it, Ed,

You may not feel it, Ed,

but you're not alone.

but you're not alone.

Thank you.

Thank you.

WOMAN: His long-time girlfriend, Lindsay Mills, an amateur photographer,

WOMAN: His long-time girlfriend, Lindsay Mills, an amateur photographer,

has not been heard from.

has not been heard from.

It's believed she's in seclusion in her parents' home in Maryland

It's believed she's in seclusion in her parents' home in Maryland

and has been questioned by the FBI and remains under investigation.

and has been questioned by the FBI and remains under investigation.

MAN: Ten days have now gone by, as the world looks for Edward Snowden.

MAN: Ten days have now gone by, as the world looks for Edward Snowden.

Rumors have surfaced that a rich supporter is hiding Snowden

Rumors have surfaced that a rich supporter is hiding Snowden

somewhere in the Hong Kong hills in a private mansion.

somewhere in the Hong Kong hills in a private mansion.

(woman speaking Chinese on PA)

(woman speaking Chinese on PA)

MAN: It is now confirmed that Edward Snowden

MAN: It is now confirmed that Edward Snowden

has boarded a flight from Hong Kong to Moscow.

has boarded a flight from Hong Kong to Moscow.

WOMAN: The State Department is very disappointed

WOMAN: The State Department is very disappointed

in the authorities in Hong Kong for letting Snowden go.

in the authorities in Hong Kong for letting Snowden go.

MAN: He was accompanied by a representative from WikiLeaks.

MAN: He was accompanied by a representative from WikiLeaks.

MAN #2: Snowden is trying to make his way from Russia to Cuba,

MAN #2: Snowden is trying to make his way from Russia to Cuba,

and then to Ecuador for political asylum.

and then to Ecuador for political asylum.

WOMAN: Moscow airport officials say he won't be permitted

WOMAN: Moscow airport officials say he won't be permitted

to make his connective flight

to make his connective flight

because the US government has revoked his passport.

because the US government has revoked his passport.

MAN: The United States Secretary of State John Kerry,

MAN: The United States Secretary of State John Kerry,

outraged that Russia is refusing to arrest the American fugitive.

outraged that Russia is refusing to arrest the American fugitive.

MAN #2: Now a man without a country, stranded inside the Moscow airport.

MAN #2: Now a man without a country, stranded inside the Moscow airport.

No, I'm not gonna be scrambling jets

No, I'm not gonna be scrambling jets

to get a 29-year-old hacker.

to get a 29-year-old hacker.

WOMAN: The president of Bolivia's plane

WOMAN: The president of Bolivia's plane

was forced down in Austria airspace today

was forced down in Austria airspace today

following US suspicions that Snowden may have been on board.

following US suspicions that Snowden may have been on board.

MAN: After 39 days in the airport hotel,

MAN: After 39 days in the airport hotel,

he's left with his Russian lawyer and a legal adviser from WikiLeaks,

he's left with his Russian lawyer and a legal adviser from WikiLeaks,

Sarah Harrison.

Sarah Harrison.

MAN: He can now enjoy all of the sweet, sweet liberty

MAN: He can now enjoy all of the sweet, sweet liberty

allowed under the regime of President Vladimir Putin.

allowed under the regime of President Vladimir Putin.

TRUMP: There is still a thing called execution.

TRUMP: There is still a thing called execution.

Mr. Snowden actually deserves asylum and protection around the globe.

Mr. Snowden actually deserves asylum and protection around the globe.

But he does have asylum in Russia, at least.

But he does have asylum in Russia, at least.

He can engage in the debate he started.

He can engage in the debate he started.

And the world now has an example that you can do the right thing

And the world now has an example that you can do the right thing

and you don't have to end up in a cage, one room, a prison.

and you don't have to end up in a cage, one room, a prison.

MAN: After more than a year in the country under temporary asylum,

MAN: After more than a year in the country under temporary asylum,

Edward Snowden has received a three-year residency permit in Russia.

Edward Snowden has received a three-year residency permit in Russia.

MAN: And now, here live from Moscow,

MAN: And now, here live from Moscow,

Edward Snowden.

Edward Snowden.

Hi, Ed. How you doing?

Hi, Ed. How you doing?

(chuckles)

(chuckles)

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh, forgive me if I get my bearings a little bit here.

Uh, forgive me if I get my bearings a little bit here.

People always said I was kind of a robot.

People always said I was kind of a robot.

(laughter)

(laughter)

How is it that you came to be in Russia?

How is it that you came to be in Russia?

Well, I never intended to come here.

Well, I never intended to come here.

You know, my passport was revoked en route to Latin America.

You know, my passport was revoked en route to Latin America.

So when people say, "Why are you in Russia?"

So when people say, "Why are you in Russia?"

I say, "Ask the State Department."

I say, "Ask the State Department."

Does that mean that you're willing to go back and face trial?

Does that mean that you're willing to go back and face trial?

Absolutely, if it was a fair and public trial.

Absolutely, if it was a fair and public trial.

Unfortunately, that's not what would happen right now,

Unfortunately, that's not what would happen right now,

as long as the Espionage Act is being used against whistle-blowers.

as long as the Espionage Act is being used against whistle-blowers.

Do you still think it was worth it?

Do you still think it was worth it?

Yes, I do. Without the information to start a public debate, we're lost.

Yes, I do. Without the information to start a public debate, we're lost.

You know, the people being able to question our government

You know, the people being able to question our government

and hold it accountable--

and hold it accountable--

That's the principle that the United States of America was founded on.

That's the principle that the United States of America was founded on.

So if we want to protect our national security,

So if we want to protect our national security,

we should be protecting that principle.

we should be protecting that principle.

What if your argument falls on deaf ears?

What if your argument falls on deaf ears?

What if our leaders don't act?

What if our leaders don't act?

I believe that, if nothing changes,

I believe that, if nothing changes,

more and more people all over the world will come forward.

more and more people all over the world will come forward.

Whistle-blowers and journalists, but also regular citizens.

Whistle-blowers and journalists, but also regular citizens.

And when those in power try to hide

And when those in power try to hide

by classifying everything,

by classifying everything,

we will call them out on it.

we will call them out on it.

And when they try to scare us into sacrificing our basic human rights,

And when they try to scare us into sacrificing our basic human rights,

we won't be intimidated,

we won't be intimidated,

and we won't give up,

and we won't give up,

and we will not be silenced.

and we will not be silenced.

You're alone in a foreign country.

You're alone in a foreign country.

You'll be extradited if you try to leave.

You'll be extradited if you try to leave.

That must be hard.

That must be hard.

When I left Hawaii, I lost... everything.

When I left Hawaii, I lost... everything.

You know, I had a stable life.

You know, I had a stable life.

A stable love.

A stable love.

Family. Future.

Family. Future.

And I lost that life. But...

And I lost that life. But...

I've gained a new one,

I've gained a new one,

and I'm incredibly fortunate.

and I'm incredibly fortunate.

And I think...

And I think...

the greatest freedom that I've gained is the fact that I no longer have to worry

the greatest freedom that I've gained is the fact that I no longer have to worry

about what happens tomorrow,

about what happens tomorrow,

because I'm happy with what I've done today.

because I'm happy with what I've done today.

Live from the Internet,

Live from the Internet,

Edward Snowden.

Edward Snowden.

(whistling, cheering)

(whistling, cheering)

(cheering continues)

(cheering continues)

MAN: Has your mind-set changed about him?

MAN: Has your mind-set changed about him?

Is he now more whistle-blower than he is a, uh, hacker?

Is he now more whistle-blower than he is a, uh, hacker?

♪ Underneath the sky where the cold winds cross ♪

♪ Underneath the sky where the cold winds cross ♪

♪ There is an ocean where data flows ♪

♪ There is an ocean where data flows ♪

♪ One man in a boat out on the sea ♪

♪ One man in a boat out on the sea ♪

♪ A sea of little bits of you and me ♪

♪ A sea of little bits of you and me ♪

♪ Let it all go, set it all free ♪

♪ Let it all go, set it all free ♪

♪ You let the whole wide world see ♪

♪ You let the whole wide world see ♪

♪ Exactly what is going on ♪

♪ Exactly what is going on ♪

♪ Exactly who is lookin' on ♪

♪ Exactly who is lookin' on ♪

MAN: What is going to happen to Edward Snowden?

MAN: What is going to happen to Edward Snowden?

He's gonna die in Moscow. He's not coming home.

He's gonna die in Moscow. He's not coming home.

♪ Stories start to leak ♪

♪ Stories start to leak ♪

♪ They color your name ♪

♪ They color your name ♪

♪ While up above, cloud turns to rain ♪

♪ While up above, cloud turns to rain ♪

♪ You can feel the touch of a hand you know well ♪

♪ You can feel the touch of a hand you know well ♪

♪ It's a very long way from Maryland ♪

♪ It's a very long way from Maryland ♪

♪ In the heart of the free world ♪

♪ In the heart of the free world ♪

♪ In the home of the brave ♪

♪ In the home of the brave ♪

♪ You gave up everything ♪

♪ You gave up everything ♪

♪ To bring down the veil ♪

♪ To bring down the veil ♪

Edward Snowden-- Is he a traitor or a hero?

Edward Snowden-- Is he a traitor or a hero?

HILLARY CLINTON: He stole very important information.

HILLARY CLINTON: He stole very important information.

♪ There's no safe place to go ♪

♪ There's no safe place to go ♪

♪ Now you've let that whistle blow ♪

♪ Now you've let that whistle blow ♪

♪ Show exactly what is going on ♪

♪ Show exactly what is going on ♪

♪ Show exactly who is looking on ♪

♪ Show exactly who is looking on ♪

MAN: We have breaking news tonight.

MAN: We have breaking news tonight.

MAN #2: Among the reforms, work with Congress

MAN #2: Among the reforms, work with Congress

to change how the NSA collects phone records.

to change how the NSA collects phone records.

♪ Let it all go ♪

♪ Let it all go ♪

Mandate more transparency by the secret court

Mandate more transparency by the secret court

that regularly approves the surveillance.

that regularly approves the surveillance.

♪ Set it free ♪

♪ Set it free ♪

MAN: Is it a victory for Edward Snowden?

MAN: Is it a victory for Edward Snowden?

That's gonna depend on the eye of the beholder.

That's gonna depend on the eye of the beholder.

♪ Let it all go ♪

♪ Let it all go ♪

MAN: The American government was acting illegally.

MAN: The American government was acting illegally.

CLINTON: I don't think he should be brought home without facing the music.

CLINTON: I don't think he should be brought home without facing the music.

♪ Let it go free ♪

♪ Let it go free ♪

BERNIE SANDERS: Snowden played a very important role

BERNIE SANDERS: Snowden played a very important role

in educating the American people

in educating the American people

to the degree in which our civil liberties

to the degree in which our civil liberties

and our constitutional rights are being undermined.

and our constitutional rights are being undermined.

♪ Set it free ♪

♪ Set it free ♪

♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪

♪ Information flow ♪

♪ Information flow ♪

♪ Information flow ♪

♪ Information flow ♪

♪ Information flow ♪

♪ Information flow ♪