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I was brought up in Bytom,
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which is in the south of Poland.
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It's a region called Silesia.
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It's a mining district.
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And I was brought up by my
grandmother in communism.
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When I was around 14
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I wanted to sign up
to the theater club,
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and I went there to sign
up to the theater club
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and the tutor, she was sick.
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They offered me to sign up
to the art, to painting club,
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so I did that,
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and I met people there
that I really liked
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and I actually discovered
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that I really liked
painting and drawing.
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This is how it
all started and I,
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that's how I got into
the art high school.
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We had like this very
close group of friends.
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- We had also a lot of luck
when it come to our professors.
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Our art history
teacher enabled us
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to have our first proper
and tangible meeting
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with important basics of art.
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- She used to
take us for excursions
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during school time
and also on holidays
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we used to go together to
see museums all over Europe.
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- Where, amongst others, we
learned about Vincent Van Gogh.
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- After high school,
some of use stayed with
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and carried on the
same education,
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went to a fine arts academy.
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- Dorota, as long
as I can remember,
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always wanted to
take on directing.
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I think her love for it
came from her grandfather.
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Whenever she visited her
family home in Bytom,
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they would go to cinema together
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and later had a discussion
about film classics.
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- One of my best friends, Kamil,
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he went to film school
and he came back always
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with amazing stories
and on some point
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he got me involved with
his films and his projects,
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which, for me, it
was just incredible.
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It was kind of like a
back door to film school.
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Kamil invited me to
work on his film Switez.
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With Switez I was
working on concept art,
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on animatic, on animation,
on texturing in 3D.
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So all sorts of things.
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After a few months,
all of a sudden,
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all the work on
Switez were stopped.
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Kamil just disappeared.
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I was alone in the city
that I didn't know anyone,
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and I didn't have much to do
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because I went there just
to work on Kamil's film.
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And when he disappeared I
decided just to wait around
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and wait for him, so
I started painting,
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and all of a sudden,
he did come back,
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and he met with me
and then I realized
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we have to take a
break from Switez.
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He needed a break and
he just advised me to,
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instead of waiting around for
the other's people project,
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to start my own project.
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And I think that was
really good advice
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and I took it, and I started
working on my own idea.
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But on the other hand I
really missed painting
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and I felt that would be amazing
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to actually combine
these things.
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And I think it took me
around two weeks, maybe,
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to decide what I'm gonna do
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and that I'm gonna paint a film
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and at first that is all I knew.
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That I wanted to do
a painting animation
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and it would be a
seven minute short film
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that I would paint
entirely by myself.
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I was thinking about bringing
my own paintings to life.
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I was thinking about
telling a fictional story
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in the style of
a famous painter,
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and then I was also
wondering whether
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I could actually bring a famous
artist's paintings to life
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to tell their own story.
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And as soon as I
had thought that,
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then I knew I would make a
film about Vincent Van Gogh.
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I vividly remember as a
teenager at art school
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being overwhelmed by
both Vincent's work,
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and also by the tragic
sadness of his short life.
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And I think that the fact
that he started painting at 29
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after having failed
several professions
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meant that I identified
with him even more,
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as that was the exact age I was
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when I was coming up with
the idea for the film.
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Vincent's bravery in
starting over at 29,
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in throwing himself
into a profession
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he had no training in,
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in believing that
he could make art
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that would touch people, help
them even, was inspiring.
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So I decided that I
wanted to tell his story,
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and tell it through
his own paintings.
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You don't get artist who paints
so much and so personally.
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He painted the world around him.
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His room, his shoes,
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the food he ate, the
friends he spoke to.
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So that's why it
had to be Vincent.
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I had to wait for three months
to get the production started
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and get the money, and so
I had this three months
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and then someone in Lodz,
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he recommended me in
BreakThru to Hugh.
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So I thought that's
amazing opportunity
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and I went to Lodz to
work on the project.
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- I've been working
in film and animation
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for 20 years.
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I started off going
to film school.
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After I left film school
I set up my company,
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BreakThru films, 17 years ago.
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Before Loving Vincent,
I was best known for
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producing a film called
Peter and the Wolf
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which I won an
Oscar for in 2008,
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and after that I had another
fairly big production
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which was the Magic Piano.
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Because of that
project, I crossed paths
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with a very talented woman
called Dorota Kobiela.
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- BreakThru, they were
looking for a concept artist
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and someone for animatic.
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- A very unintended
consequence of hiring her
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was that we almost
instantly fell in love.
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- Hugh fell in love,
not only with me,
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but also with my project.
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- It's not often that you
feel that you see something
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that's very fresh, that's very
new, that's very exciting.
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First it wasn't because
of Vincent Van Gogh
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because I didn't really
know that much about him
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at the beginning.
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And then, as I started
reading the books
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that we had lying
about our flat,
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I became more fascinated.
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And I was shocked
when I found out
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that Vincent had only
started painting at 29
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after failing at
four other careers.
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I'd always assumed he'd
been a gifted artist
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from a young age,
like other geniuses,
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yet Vincent's first
encounter with art
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was when he joined his
uncle's art dealership,
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and despite working
very hard there
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and despite his
family connections,
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he was sacked because
of his inability
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to deal with customers.
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He subsequently
tried to be a teacher
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and then a bookstore clerk,
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and finally he tried to be
a preacher like his father,
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but was thrown out
of his own church
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for being overly religious.
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This ended him up in a barn
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in a desperately poor
mining region in Belgium,
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subsisting only off bread
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and doing nothing
but reading books.
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And at that low point he
decided to gamble everything
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on becoming an artist, and
with the support of his brother
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who was financing him and
believed in him to do this,
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he threw himself entirely
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into becoming an artist,
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and I think his extraordinary
passion and emotion
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was really what got me
hooked on Loving Vincent.
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- So it's fair to say
that Hugh definitely became
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interested in Vincent's
life later on,
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but at first it wasn't
until our third date
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that we talked about
my project properly.
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- In a bar called
Kaliska in Lodz.
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Through a night of
tequilas, Dorota told me
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six different stories in
terms of the directions
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that Loving Vincent
could go into.
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And this was at the stage when
it was still a short film.
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But even then, I think
what we were both
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most fascinated by was
Vincent's final days.
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How Vincent was
in his final days.
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- What was
going through his mind?
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Because by this point,
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Vincent was beginning
to have some success.
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- And things seemed to
be going well for him,
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well, for the first time
in his adult life almost.
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And yet this was the time
that he killed himself,
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and that mystery
really hooked us.
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We had a few discussions
about the possibility
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of making it into
a feature film.
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- I thought
it was a crazy idea.
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Unlike Hugh, I'm a
painter and an animator
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and so I knew how
much work it would be
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to make a painting
animation feature.
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It would take an entire
lifetime to paint.
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- We knew that it was
a very big undertaking.
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To go from doing a
seven minute film
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that's fully painted by hand,
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to doing an 80, 90 minute film
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that's fully painted,
was a huge change
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and requiring a totally
different outlook.
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For me, anyway, the final
straw in terms of going,
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okay, let's do it, let's
make a feature film,
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was when I visited an
exhibition in London
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about his letters.
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And that was a queue for
three and a half hours
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to get into this
exhibition and I thought,
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if people will queue up
for three and a half hours,
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this man is so popular that
it has to be a feature film.
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We have to give
it the opportunity
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for as many people to
see it as possible.
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So I went back to
Dorota and I said look,
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whatever it takes, we
have to take the leap
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and make this as a feature film.
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While we were doing Magic Piano
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we were traveling around
the world quite a lot.
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- It was great.
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I was taking it all in.
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Painting, sketching,
visiting museums.
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But then we stopped traveling
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and I was faced with
the reality of having
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to turn my seven minute script
into an 80 minute script.
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I was confident about how
I wanted the film to look
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and about how we would
animate the film.
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But writing the
script, that was scary.
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I didn't know how to start.
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I felt lost.
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So I went through a period
of binge-watching films
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and thinking about and
analyzing their story structure.
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After that, I ordered every
recommended script writing book
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I could, and I started reading.
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This gave me enough
inspiration and enough tools,
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and soon I was so
absorbed by the story
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that I forgot about my fears
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and we began shaping the script.
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- One of the things
that I struggled with
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was exactly how would this look
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and what kind of feeling
would it give to audiences?
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Dorota would go oh, well
it's gonna look like this,
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it's gonna look like that.
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And we got to a point
where I thought,
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let's stop talking about
it, let's just do a test.
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And that's when we
came up with the idea
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of the concept trailer.
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With the concept trailer,
we shot it with our friends
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instead of actors.
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We shot it with white bedsheets
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instead of like, green screens.
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So we found these
four oil painters
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who we were gonna try and train
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for the concept trailer
to be painting animators.
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And essentially they
were our guinea pigs.
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- I worked on the first trailer,
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but because I couldn't
move to the free city,
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I painted from home in Warsaw.
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And the first
animated Armand Roulin
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that appears on the trailer,
was done here in my flat.
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- Hugh brought
a couple of people over
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from BreakThru and we
had our team assembled
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ready to start production
on the trailer.
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- Other than the
material for the trailer,
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we also shoot some
material for tests.
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We drove down to a barn
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in extremely cold weather.
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We dressed up just to see
what it would look like
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and how it will be to
animate more dynamic scenes,
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including one where I was a
young boy in a cowboy suit
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who could be Vincent
potential here.
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- If we could train
those painters
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to become painting animators
during the time scale
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of the concept
trailer, then we knew
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it was something we could
replicate on a bigger scale.
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- Eight years.
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860 paintings.
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1,026 drawings.
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800 letters.
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20 people telling
the story of one man.
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- He works til late,
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get up before six.
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He was happy here.
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He was.
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- Everybody rejected him.
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- Until
he started hanging around
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with the Gachet's.
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- On the wall he wrote a
message in his own blood.
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You know what he writes?
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I'm the holy spirit.
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- Well, the truth is,
we cannot speak other
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than by our paintings.
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With a handshake,
your loving Vincent.
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- When we got to the
end of that process,
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how I felt about it was
that I hadn't really seen
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anything like it before.
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I was very excited.
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I was very keen to
show it to people.
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And two of the first
people I showed it to
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was Sean Bobbitt, who then
immediately came on board
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as a shareholder in BreakThru
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and also as a
producer on the film.
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- He came to me and
he showed me a trailer
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for the next film that
he was planning on doing,
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Loving Vincent, and
I immediately fell
in love with it.
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I mean, it was like nothing
I'd ever seen before.
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And I just said yes,
I definitely wanna
be a part of this.
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- And the other
person I showed it to
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who had exactly the same
reaction was Ivan Mactaggart
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from Trademark Films.
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- It's an animation
about Vincent Van Gogh.
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And I said, well let
me stop you there
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because we don't do animation.
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And he said just watch this
90 second concept trailer
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that we've made.
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He pulled out his iPad
and he sets it going,
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and I watched, transfixed
for 90 seconds,
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and at the end of it said,
okay, now we do do animation.
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Where do we sign?
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- And then you know,
as things progressed
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we needed to have a serious
kind of base for the film.
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We then moved to Gdansk.
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We moved to GPNT Business center
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and we had this
huge empty space,
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2,000 square meters,
and there was five of us
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rattling around in
this enormous space.
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So we had a badminton court,
we had our roller blades.
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We were gonna not only fill
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all of that space in time,
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but we'd need to have much more.
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- While we were
making the concept trailer,
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it was taking us
at least two hours
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to paint a single frame.
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We knew we had to find
a way to cut the time
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in order to make
it efficient enough
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to create a whole
film in the same way.
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- Our first work station for
painters was very homemade.
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An easel, a camera,
projector, IKEA shelving unit,
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a tripod, two computers,
and a memory stick.
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My job was to come up
with something better
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to help animators to be able
to animate more efficiently.
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So we came up with painting
animation work station.
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In addition, parts
could minimize
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the amount of things
that could go wrong
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during the animation.
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- So I think
in the very beginning,
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Piotr was doing three hours
a frame on our first set up,
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and, you know, by the
time we got him into
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our painting animation
works station,
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our PAWS version 3.0,
we had cut it in half
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to one and a half hours.
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- It took us five
days to assemble the first
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30 animation work stations,
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and after that, we were ready
for the first painters test.
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- We went through
a very careful process
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of selecting the right paint.
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We compared a number
of major brands
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and paid attention to
the quality of the paint,
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the differences in color,
but also affordability.
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And in the end, the best option
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ended up being Van Gogh.
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- With painting animation
work stations set up
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and paints chosen,
the only thing missing
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was to have enough good
painting animators.
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- In the case of Loving Vincent,
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there weren't painting animators
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or there certainly weren't
enough painting animators
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that were out there
in the whole world
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to come and work on this film.
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So we had to create a
work force from scratch.
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We had to take
brilliant painters
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and convert them into
painting animators.
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- We had more than
1,000 portfolios
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submitted just from
Polish artists.
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We ran three day tests
in three cities in Poland
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just for more than 300 of them.
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From these, we selected
60 for training
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of whom 40 joined the film.
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- I had a three
day test in Lodz,
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after which I waited for
a call from BreakThru.
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Then after some time we
brought back two times
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where we went through a
six week training course.
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- After the training,
those who were accepted
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were invited to start
design process for the film.
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- We did 157
design paintings in total.
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These were crucial
for precisely defining
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the look of the film.
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The animators all had
to follow the colors,
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the style of the brush strokes,
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and the feel of the
design paintings.
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Without them it wouldn't
have been possible
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to keep the painting
animation consistent.
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While we were designing
the look of the film,
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we also had to start
animation tests,
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but we needed to have material
for the painters to test on.
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We decided to dress up as the
characters from the paintings.
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It was great fun.
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We just rented the costumes,
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I dressed up as
Marguerite Gachet,
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Hugh dressed up as a post man.
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- My friend wouldn't
kill himself.
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- Together we got
funds from Kickstarter
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and from the unemployment agency
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and that allowed
us to put together
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a training program for
painting animators.
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Hello Kickstarter.
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I'm Hugh Welshman.
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I would like to show you
something, follow me.
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I think the first 65
people who went through
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were funded out by
those two entities.
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- The 30 painters
that you see here,
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thanks to you, started
training this morning,
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and over the course of
the next three months
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we'll be able to train
about 50 painters
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with the monies that we've
raised on Kickstarter.
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- Then we needed
money not just for training,
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but for the whole film.
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And as we're a Polish project,
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having the backing of
the Polish Film Institute
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was a crucial step.
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If you don't have the backing
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of your national
film institution,
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then international
investors are wary
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and less likely to have
confidence in your project.
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- We applied for Loving
Vincent as a feature film.
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- We really had a
struggle with PFI.
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I think we were turned
down two or three times.
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- And then you get to go
and see the commission
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and discuss with them why,
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and get to know about it.
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So I went there.
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I remember the situation
was emotionally disturbing
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and painful because I had to
sit in front of four people
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and they were all telling me
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that this is first
of all boring,
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second of all, I do
not have experience
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and I'm not a proper director.
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But of course after some time,
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they proved to be a really
big supporter of the project.
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And without them, it would
have been nearly impossible
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to get the project going.
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But it took some convincing
and determination at first.
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And as I was walking
away from the institute
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I was so emotionally destroyed,
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but I was thinking,
maybe they're right,
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but on some point I thought, no,
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I can't let them beat me down.
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That's what Vincent did.
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He really had this persistence
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and I should follow him if I
really, truly believe in it.
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That's what kept me motivated.
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- We were at a pretty critical
point in the production.
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Basically we had to
either raise some money
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relatively quickly,
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or we had to stop production,
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or at least put
production on hold.
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And at that point, a friend
of mine came to me and said,
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Wroclaw is the European
capital of culture in 2016.
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Maybe they would like to
support the production
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as part of the European
capital of culture.
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So I went to Wroclaw.
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I met with the
president of the city.
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I showed him what
we were trying to do
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and he said, well, as a city,
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we would like to
support this production.
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And it was a really important
moment for the film.
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We started looking
around for work
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that we could do in Wroclaw.
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We partnered up a CETA,
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which is Centrum
Technologii Audiowizualnych.
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They have a beautiful
facility for shooting
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on a blue screen, and they
also had VFX facilities
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so they could take on
part of the work with VFX,
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and we could also
do the Polish shoot
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at their facilities.
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- And it was a really
important time for us
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because it allowed us
before we had finalized
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with the Polish Film Institute,
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it allowed us to get the funding
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which meant that we
could shoot the first
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shots from the film.
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For example, the famous
shot that's on the poster
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of Vincent turning around,
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that was actually shot right
after we closed the financing
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with the city of Wroclaw.
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It was actually just a test shot
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both for Robert
Gulaczyk, the actor,
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and for Anna Kluza,
and it turned out to be
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the most iconic shot
of the film, I think.
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- One of
our main challenges
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in bringing Vincent's
painting to the cinema screen
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was the fact that Vincent used
many different canvas sizes
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and that was part of
his choice as an artist
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in terms of the composition,
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whereas for cinema we
could only use one size.
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This meant that we
had to add or subtract
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or cover the painting through
some kind of movement.
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And in the beginning, we did
the whole film 16 by nine,
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which is the standard HD format.
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It was causing us
a lot of problems
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because actually most
of Vincent's paintings
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was a size 30 canvas,
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which is more a square format.
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So for every single
painting almost
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we were having to
invent these side bars
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and change the composition.
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And then Lukasz Zal,
our cinematographer,
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came along to us and he said,
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well why don't you
just shoot at academy
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and then you don't have to
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second guess the genius
of Vincent Van Gogh.
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And we were sacked by our
first sales agent company
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because we made the decision
to go with the academy format.
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But I would rather go
against the sales agent
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then go against the
compositional choices
501
00:28:35,278 --> 00:28:36,540
of Vincent Van Gogh.
502
00:28:36,584 --> 00:28:38,412
- We started
working with Lukasz.
503
00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:40,675
We invited him to our studio
504
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:44,026
to go through it step
by step, shot by shot.
505
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:46,159
- That's when we
had to have the very
506
00:28:46,202 --> 00:28:49,249
detailed conversations
of actually how
507
00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:53,079
we were going to
translate this 2D medium
508
00:28:53,122 --> 00:28:56,604
into a live action
reference shoot,
509
00:28:56,647 --> 00:28:59,738
which would then have to
go back into the 2D medium
510
00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,391
of painting.
511
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,917
So we'd got to this point.
512
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,789
We had filled up a
quarter of our studio
513
00:29:07,833 --> 00:29:10,966
with 20 painting animators.
514
00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:14,840
We had raised I think
around a third of the money.
515
00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:17,799
We were still a long way off
516
00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:22,761
being able to go ahead and
know that we can make this film
517
00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:24,719
and finish this film.
518
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:26,590
We made the decision to
actually go and shoot
519
00:29:26,634 --> 00:29:27,766
a third of the film
520
00:29:29,245 --> 00:29:31,291
and to do the painting animation
of a third of the film.
521
00:29:31,334 --> 00:29:32,596
- We decided to record
522
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,338
one of our main
characters Pere Tanguy,
523
00:29:35,382 --> 00:29:37,210
mainly because his
role in the film
524
00:29:37,253 --> 00:29:40,561
wouldn't change, even if
we were going to change
525
00:29:40,604 --> 00:29:43,216
other parts of the
script later on.
526
00:29:43,259 --> 00:29:45,479
And because we needed to
have some painted material
527
00:29:45,522 --> 00:29:48,656
to persuade people to join
us and finance the film.
528
00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:50,527
- This was really a decision
529
00:29:50,571 --> 00:29:52,921
that would either make
or break the production.
530
00:29:52,965 --> 00:29:55,271
We swam in a direction
which could potentially
531
00:29:55,315 --> 00:29:58,666
not only bankrupt the company
532
00:29:58,709 --> 00:30:01,321
and destroy our
reputations as film makers,
533
00:30:02,888 --> 00:30:07,370
but also make it unlikely
that we'd make another film
534
00:30:07,893 --> 00:30:08,241
in the future.
535
00:30:09,155 --> 00:30:12,245
It was a tough decision to make.
536
00:30:12,288 --> 00:30:15,074
There weren't so
many options then
537
00:30:15,117 --> 00:30:20,122
and so we took the
plunge and we decided to
538
00:30:21,341 --> 00:30:21,994
go ahead and do
the Wroclaw shoot.
539
00:30:59,074 --> 00:31:01,903
- Wroclaw was
quite difficult for me.
540
00:31:01,947 --> 00:31:05,689
It was my first
shoot on a big set
541
00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:08,127
and it was a real
learning experience
542
00:31:08,170 --> 00:31:10,781
and a very new situation.
543
00:31:10,825 --> 00:31:14,960
I was a first-time director on
a Polish, male-dominated set,
544
00:31:16,439 --> 00:31:20,008
and I think the crew
was quite skeptical
545
00:31:20,052 --> 00:31:23,272
about how it would all turn out.
546
00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:24,926
- We always had
that hanging over us
547
00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:27,842
that we knew that we
had taken a big risk
548
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:30,105
in going ahead and
making parts of the film
549
00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:33,413
when we had no commitment
of distribution,
550
00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:34,936
we had no commitment of funding
551
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:37,417
that covered the entire budget.
552
00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:38,940
- The most attractive
thing about this project
553
00:31:38,984 --> 00:31:41,290
is it's not a
commercial project.
554
00:31:41,334 --> 00:31:43,510
It's not a big bucks project.
555
00:31:43,553 --> 00:31:44,815
It's not Harry Potter.
556
00:31:44,859 --> 00:31:48,167
It's not Disney
film or whatever.
557
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:51,126
It's an extraordinary labor
of love about a great artist,
558
00:31:52,562 --> 00:31:56,262
and involves a lot of
extraordinary artistry to make
559
00:31:56,305 --> 00:31:58,003
in every department
of this film.
560
00:31:58,046 --> 00:32:00,527
- It was a big lesson
in directing a production
561
00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:02,921
on this scale for me,
but also for Hugh,
562
00:32:02,964 --> 00:32:05,097
who had joined me
as co-director.
563
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:07,838
- I think I kinda went from
564
00:32:07,882 --> 00:32:12,800
being a creative and at
points controlling producer
565
00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:14,628
to an accidental director.
566
00:32:16,021 --> 00:32:18,023
Me joining Dorota as director
567
00:32:18,066 --> 00:32:20,764
just sort of organically
flowed out of the experience
568
00:32:20,808 --> 00:32:25,726
of the production and of
the writing of the script.
569
00:32:40,132 --> 00:32:42,699
Definitely the hardest
part was the Wroclaw shoot.
570
00:32:42,743 --> 00:32:44,136
I think it was particularly hard
571
00:32:44,179 --> 00:32:46,225
because we were working
out as we were going along
572
00:32:46,268 --> 00:32:49,837
how this type of film making
would actually be done.
573
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,318
After all, we were
doing something new,
574
00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:54,929
so we couldn't phone someone
up who'd already done it
575
00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:56,148
and ask for their advice.
576
00:32:56,191 --> 00:32:59,673
We couldn't read
any how to manuals.
577
00:32:59,716 --> 00:33:02,284
We just had to find
out for ourselves.
578
00:33:02,328 --> 00:33:04,069
We had no proof that
it would work out,
579
00:33:04,112 --> 00:33:06,027
we just had to
trust our instincts
580
00:33:06,071 --> 00:33:08,812
and hope for the best.
581
00:33:08,856 --> 00:33:12,251
- It's trying something
incredibly new and exciting
582
00:33:12,294 --> 00:33:17,038
by having moving images of
the paintings of Van Gogh.
583
00:33:17,082 --> 00:33:19,998
And hopefully we will
all be remembered for it.
584
00:33:22,217 --> 00:33:27,222
- So one of the scary things
that came out of Wroclaw
585
00:33:28,658 --> 00:33:30,921
first shoot was we
realized that the actors,
586
00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:32,967
when they were
acting out the parts,
587
00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:35,970
took almost twice as
long as me and Dorota
588
00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:38,320
when we had acted
out all of the parts.
589
00:33:38,364 --> 00:33:41,454
- Listen son, I'm afraid
590
00:33:41,497 --> 00:33:44,022
you'll never deliver that
letter to Theo Van Gogh.
591
00:33:44,065 --> 00:33:46,024
- Practically in
the space of three months
592
00:33:46,067 --> 00:33:49,375
we had to cut over a quarter
of the story from the script
593
00:33:49,418 --> 00:33:53,161
that we've been carefully
working on over three years.
594
00:33:53,205 --> 00:33:55,903
And also we needed to
record more painters.
595
00:33:55,946 --> 00:34:00,908
- You'll see that now we
have another 15 PAWS units
596
00:34:03,171 --> 00:34:06,827
and inside each one we
have a painting animator
597
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:10,613
doing their very first
shot on Loving Vincent.
598
00:34:10,657 --> 00:34:14,965
Once we saw the material,
once it had been painted,
599
00:34:15,009 --> 00:34:18,752
we got that whole enthusiasm
back for the project.
600
00:34:18,795 --> 00:34:20,971
We realized we actually
were doing something
601
00:34:21,015 --> 00:34:22,408
that was special.
602
00:34:22,451 --> 00:34:25,411
And we cut together this
little trailer of material
603
00:34:25,454 --> 00:34:27,065
from that first shoot.
604
00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:30,329
And someone took this
trailer that we did,
605
00:34:30,372 --> 00:34:32,722
they put it onto
their Facebook page
606
00:34:32,766 --> 00:34:35,116
and it went viral.
607
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:40,165
- Loving Vincent.
608
00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:43,124
- Finally tonight, it's
never been done before.
609
00:34:43,168 --> 00:34:46,214
A fully hand-painted
feature film
610
00:34:46,258 --> 00:34:49,087
now giving new life to
Vincent Van Gogh's works.
611
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:51,437
The attention to detail
so extraordinary,
612
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,135
the finished product is
turning into a masterpiece
613
00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:55,658
in its own right.
614
00:34:55,702 --> 00:34:57,791
- Within 24 hours, two
million people had seen this.
615
00:34:57,834 --> 00:35:00,315
Within three months, 200
million people had viewed this.
616
00:35:00,359 --> 00:35:03,927
We went from a situation
that seemed hopeless
617
00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:05,581
to a situation
where it was like,
618
00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:08,062
we can go ahead and
we can make this film.
619
00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:12,936
We didn't have enough time
but at least we finally
620
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:15,374
had a promise of resources
to make the film.
621
00:35:42,096 --> 00:35:44,533
- And, action.
622
00:35:44,577 --> 00:35:47,319
- Even though
for most of my life
623
00:35:47,362 --> 00:35:50,191
I've been working with
animation and painting,
624
00:35:50,235 --> 00:35:54,587
I always wanted and dreamed
about working with actors.
625
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:56,980
And suddenly when I
found myself on that set,
626
00:35:57,024 --> 00:35:59,026
I realized how much I enjoy it.
627
00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:06,599
- For the London shoot, the
biggest issue was time, really.
628
00:36:06,642 --> 00:36:09,210
It is that we were
trying to shoot
629
00:36:09,254 --> 00:36:10,951
over 60 minutes of material
630
00:36:10,994 --> 00:36:14,259
with our main actors
in the space of 11 days
631
00:36:14,302 --> 00:36:18,872
doing up to 30 setups,
which is a speed of shooting
632
00:36:18,915 --> 00:36:22,876
which maybe you
get on soap operas.
633
00:36:22,919 --> 00:36:24,182
- The
concept of this film
634
00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:25,835
was from the very beginning
635
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:29,230
that it will be a story
told by Vincent's paintings
636
00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:31,406
and the characters
of his portraits.
637
00:36:31,450 --> 00:36:33,539
Therefore, I though
that it's important
638
00:36:33,582 --> 00:36:36,237
that these portraits
who were real humans
639
00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:37,804
before they were painted,
640
00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:40,546
should be portrayed
by real humans now
641
00:36:40,589 --> 00:36:43,288
because they had real emotions,
642
00:36:43,331 --> 00:36:45,464
emotions that the actors follow
643
00:36:45,507 --> 00:36:47,205
and show based on the script.
644
00:36:47,248 --> 00:36:51,557
- I knew that we were all
going to be turned into sort of
645
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,255
Van Gogh style paintings,
646
00:36:54,299 --> 00:36:56,475
but I didn't quite know how
647
00:36:56,518 --> 00:36:59,217
you guys were gonna
go about doing that.
648
00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:01,436
The concept was new
and it was something
649
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,830
that hadn't been done before.
650
00:37:03,873 --> 00:37:05,135
That's why I wanted to do it.
651
00:37:05,179 --> 00:37:07,268
That's why I wanted to
do it with you guys.
652
00:37:07,312 --> 00:37:09,401
I was really interested
653
00:37:09,444 --> 00:37:11,446
to see what the
process was gonna be.
654
00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:13,970
- We're working to
enormous green screens,
655
00:37:14,014 --> 00:37:15,668
the type that you
usually don't see
656
00:37:15,711 --> 00:37:20,150
unless you're on a
huge multi-million
dollar American movie.
657
00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:21,761
- The cornflower is
lovely this time of year.
658
00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:23,806
It's really quite
pretty, isn't it?
659
00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:25,286
Amazing, the scenery around here
660
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:27,332
and I just live down the
road around the corner
661
00:37:27,375 --> 00:37:29,508
sort of back over
there somewhere.
662
00:37:29,551 --> 00:37:32,162
- I knew very little about
Van Gogh before starting this.
663
00:37:32,206 --> 00:37:34,556
Only what I had leanred
in school as a kid.
664
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,297
I knew about his ear,
665
00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:38,299
I think that's probably
the most famous thing.
666
00:37:38,343 --> 00:37:41,346
But I had absolutely
no idea about him
667
00:37:41,389 --> 00:37:42,651
supposedly killing himself,
668
00:37:42,695 --> 00:37:44,697
or that there was ever
any question around
669
00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:47,265
how exactly he died.
670
00:37:47,308 --> 00:37:49,441
It's been fascinating to
explore that in the script
671
00:37:49,484 --> 00:37:51,486
and also to read
different accounts
672
00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:52,574
from the different characters.
673
00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:54,533
It's really interesting.
674
00:37:54,576 --> 00:37:58,145
- I always like when the
technical side of film
675
00:37:58,188 --> 00:38:01,104
meets the artistic side.
676
00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:03,324
So it's been a great experience
677
00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:05,457
and the cast have been amazing.
678
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,807
- Oh Jesus Christ.
679
00:38:09,504 --> 00:38:11,158
Dick.
680
00:38:12,855 --> 00:38:15,554
You know that it's glued on?
- Need that hot water.
681
00:38:15,597 --> 00:38:17,817
- If I had known
about the beard.
682
00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:22,517
I would have ran away.
683
00:38:22,561 --> 00:38:25,259
- What do I say when I find him?
684
00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:28,523
- It's customary to start
with I'm sorry for your loss.
685
00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:30,960
- I play Armand Roulin
686
00:38:31,004 --> 00:38:35,225
who is a young guy
that Van Gogh painted
687
00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:38,577
'cause he was the son of one
of Van Gogh's best friend.
688
00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:40,187
And throughout the film,
689
00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:44,017
he sort of has a self discovery,
690
00:38:44,060 --> 00:38:46,759
which is sort of aided by
his discovery of Van Gogh.
691
00:38:46,802 --> 00:38:48,413
To start with it was
completely the painting
692
00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:50,240
that captivated me because
I didn't really know much
693
00:38:50,284 --> 00:38:51,546
about him other than
he was this mad guy
694
00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:52,852
who cut off his ear
695
00:38:52,895 --> 00:38:55,289
and everyone though
he was a bit strange.
696
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,073
But then through this movie
697
00:38:58,510 --> 00:39:02,340
and noticing more about the
man behind the paintings
698
00:39:02,383 --> 00:39:05,081
and suddenly the paintings
became so much more interesting.
699
00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:07,388
They just became alive
for me to sort of,
700
00:39:07,432 --> 00:39:09,521
he's one of the first painters
701
00:39:09,564 --> 00:39:11,436
that really started
painting with emotion.
702
00:39:14,177 --> 00:39:15,831
- Once we had
finished with the actors,
703
00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:18,530
then it was all about painting.
704
00:39:18,573 --> 00:39:21,794
Every single frame of the
film would need to be painted
705
00:39:21,837 --> 00:39:25,841
carefully in oil paints,
mainly in Vincent's style.
706
00:39:25,885 --> 00:39:28,583
And his style is
not easy to animate.
707
00:39:28,627 --> 00:39:31,499
The fact you can often see
individual brush strokes,
708
00:39:31,543 --> 00:39:34,459
the fact that he had
such a thick impasto,
709
00:39:34,502 --> 00:39:37,157
meant that for a lot
of shots the painters
710
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,422
had to stop motion animate
each individual brush stroke.
711
00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:44,425
Move each individual
brush stroke bit by bit
712
00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:46,166
across the canvas.
713
00:39:46,209 --> 00:39:48,516
It was my job to
critically evaluate
714
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,867
and eventually approve
every single one
715
00:39:51,911 --> 00:39:54,479
of the 65,000 paintings.
716
00:39:57,482 --> 00:39:59,135
- I think by that
time we'd only painted
717
00:39:59,179 --> 00:40:01,442
15,000 frames of the film,
718
00:40:01,486 --> 00:40:05,533
so we had another 50,000
frames of the film to paint
719
00:40:05,577 --> 00:40:07,405
and not enough time
to paint it in.
720
00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:09,450
And not enough painters
to paint it with.
721
00:40:09,494 --> 00:40:11,496
- We were still in the
process of sorting out
722
00:40:11,539 --> 00:40:14,934
all the applications that
had been coming through
723
00:40:14,977 --> 00:40:16,718
and trying to find
the right painters.
724
00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:18,938
- We had a whole new
recruitment drive.
725
00:40:18,981 --> 00:40:21,070
We had 4,000 new applications
726
00:40:21,114 --> 00:40:23,508
and just the task
of sifting through
727
00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:26,467
all of these applications
to try and find people
728
00:40:26,511 --> 00:40:27,686
that we wanted.
729
00:40:27,729 --> 00:40:31,429
- We did tests on I
think over 500 painters.
730
00:40:31,472 --> 00:40:35,998
- We were setting up a
separate unit in Wroclaw
731
00:40:36,042 --> 00:40:37,347
with 10 painters.
732
00:40:37,391 --> 00:40:40,394
We were setting up
a unit in Athens,
733
00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:43,571
Studio Mabrida, that
went up to 18 painters.
734
00:40:43,615 --> 00:40:45,965
But we also knew that
we're gonna need like
735
00:40:46,008 --> 00:40:48,489
100 painters
working on this film
736
00:40:50,056 --> 00:40:52,580
if we were gonna stand a
chance of getting it made
737
00:40:52,624 --> 00:40:54,060
before the deadline.
738
00:40:54,103 --> 00:40:55,540
- We now have
three different studios
739
00:40:55,583 --> 00:40:57,977
in two countries
and our main studio
740
00:40:58,020 --> 00:41:00,458
which at first had 20 painters,
741
00:41:00,501 --> 00:41:04,940
was now filled up
with 67 painting
animation work stations.
742
00:41:06,202 --> 00:41:07,726
- We were ready to
go full steam ahead
743
00:41:07,769 --> 00:41:10,729
with the painting process
to complete the film on time
744
00:41:10,772 --> 00:41:14,384
with our new larger
team of painters.
745
00:41:14,428 --> 00:41:18,737
Okay so let me take you
through the animation process.
746
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:21,740
First thing, we start
with a clean canvas,
747
00:41:21,783 --> 00:41:24,656
open up the software and
load up the references
748
00:41:24,699 --> 00:41:26,614
from the live action shoot.
749
00:41:26,658 --> 00:41:28,877
We take a key frame for the
scene and based on that,
750
00:41:28,921 --> 00:41:30,575
we paint the first frame
751
00:41:30,618 --> 00:41:33,099
and check it over
with our supervisor.
752
00:41:33,142 --> 00:41:34,666
If the frame gets accepted,
753
00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:37,799
we can move on and we
can begin animation.
754
00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:40,672
The projector display the
second frame of the shot,
755
00:41:40,715 --> 00:41:42,804
and then we have to
scrape the paint off
756
00:41:42,848 --> 00:41:44,458
or change it a little bit
757
00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,374
and we paint the scene
to match this new frame.
758
00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:48,941
Once this is done,
759
00:41:48,984 --> 00:41:51,334
we take another two
pictures with the camera.
760
00:41:52,727 --> 00:41:55,643
We are doing the film
12 frames per second,
761
00:41:55,687 --> 00:41:57,123
but we have to take two pictures
762
00:41:57,166 --> 00:42:00,082
to match the 24 frame
standard for the film.
763
00:42:00,126 --> 00:42:01,562
After we've taken the picture,
764
00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:04,347
we project the next
frame and start again.
765
00:42:04,391 --> 00:42:06,959
- I had to look after
a group of painters
766
00:42:07,002 --> 00:42:09,178
and make sure that
they were all sticking
767
00:42:09,222 --> 00:42:11,180
to the correct style
768
00:42:11,224 --> 00:42:13,400
and ensuring that every frame
769
00:42:13,443 --> 00:42:15,707
has the same
standard of quality.
770
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:18,144
- Some shots took a very
long time to complete.
771
00:42:18,187 --> 00:42:22,714
I think my longest shot took
me about six months to finish.
772
00:42:22,757 --> 00:42:26,544
Now imagine working every
day here on one single shot
773
00:42:26,587 --> 00:42:31,331
for it to then be on the
screen for around 42 seconds.
774
00:43:06,192 --> 00:43:08,934
- Some of us definitely
spent thousands of hours
775
00:43:08,977 --> 00:43:11,371
in a painting station,
776
00:43:11,414 --> 00:43:14,243
half of our lives was there.
777
00:43:14,287 --> 00:43:17,595
So in a way they became
our little homes at work.
778
00:43:17,638 --> 00:43:20,032
- It was very clear
that some painters
779
00:43:20,075 --> 00:43:21,860
became attached to their PAWS
780
00:43:21,903 --> 00:43:25,211
and would decorate them
and very often leave a mess
781
00:43:25,254 --> 00:43:25,994
in there too.
782
00:43:27,822 --> 00:43:30,520
- Sometimes we had to
fix certain scenes.
783
00:43:30,564 --> 00:43:32,958
We would paint and
animate just a part
784
00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:34,481
that needed fixing,
785
00:43:34,524 --> 00:43:37,745
and stick in onto
the original shot.
786
00:43:37,789 --> 00:43:40,661
We wanted to avoid
throwing out whole shots
787
00:43:40,705 --> 00:43:42,663
as it would be a
huge waster of time.
788
00:43:42,707 --> 00:43:45,013
- It happened to me twice
when I did a mistake
789
00:43:45,057 --> 00:43:46,754
during my painting animation,
790
00:43:46,798 --> 00:43:50,192
and I have to redo 10
or 15 frames again.
791
00:43:50,236 --> 00:43:52,499
That was very painful.
792
00:43:52,542 --> 00:43:54,806
- There are very few scenes
that they were thrown out
793
00:43:54,849 --> 00:43:56,155
after they were painted
794
00:43:56,198 --> 00:43:59,158
because they all took a
very long time to paint.
795
00:43:59,201 --> 00:44:00,638
- You hear that,
796
00:44:00,681 --> 00:44:02,248
I'd better go talk to the lad.
797
00:44:02,291 --> 00:44:03,989
- I told
you you're not going anywhere.
798
00:44:04,032 --> 00:44:06,818
You are not help
talking the shop.
799
00:44:17,742 --> 00:44:21,397
- The scenes that took the
longest were the dynamic scenes
800
00:44:21,441 --> 00:44:23,225
which has a lot of
camera movement.
801
00:44:24,444 --> 00:44:26,054
- I painted descending
through the starry night
802
00:44:26,098 --> 00:44:27,621
over the town.
803
00:44:27,665 --> 00:44:29,841
Because of moving camera,
I often only managed
804
00:44:29,884 --> 00:44:31,973
a painting a day,
mostly one and a half,
805
00:44:32,017 --> 00:44:33,845
on rare occasions two.
806
00:44:33,888 --> 00:44:35,803
So it took me a
long time to animate
807
00:44:35,847 --> 00:44:37,892
just a few seconds of the film.
808
00:44:37,936 --> 00:44:40,721
- We were held back a little
bit by what we could do.
809
00:44:40,765 --> 00:44:42,680
The moving camera shots cost,
810
00:44:42,723 --> 00:44:44,246
I'm the finance guy .
811
00:44:45,508 --> 00:44:46,945
On the set I was like, Dorota,
812
00:44:46,988 --> 00:44:50,644
do we really need to have
the moving camera shot here?
813
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:51,732
But you know at
the end of the day
814
00:44:51,776 --> 00:44:54,082
it was a matter of the budget.
815
00:44:54,126 --> 00:44:57,520
- I think that we
had the situation
816
00:44:57,564 --> 00:45:00,654
several times a year where
we really didn't know
817
00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:03,178
where the next money
was gonna come from.
818
00:45:03,222 --> 00:45:06,704
It was brilliant
working with Sean
819
00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:09,315
because Sean had this ability
820
00:45:09,358 --> 00:45:11,970
to pull rabbits out of the hat.
821
00:45:12,013 --> 00:45:13,885
There was this month
where Sean was like,
822
00:45:13,928 --> 00:45:15,408
I have no more rabbits.
823
00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:19,064
Really, the only
option I could see
824
00:45:19,107 --> 00:45:21,457
was getting on a
plane to America
825
00:45:21,501 --> 00:45:25,766
and going and talking to
one of our largest investors
826
00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:27,376
and saying to them,
827
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:32,338
we'd like you to increase
your investment by 50%
828
00:45:33,861 --> 00:45:35,471
and we'd like you to put it
in in the next two weeks.
829
00:45:36,951 --> 00:45:39,737
Thankfully, they were
yet again very supportive
830
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:41,347
and came through to us.
831
00:45:42,609 --> 00:45:45,003
That kept the whole
thing moving forward
832
00:45:45,046 --> 00:45:48,136
for more months
until we wrapped up
833
00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:51,661
all the legal work,
all the bank documents
834
00:45:51,705 --> 00:45:54,882
that finally got the final
monies flowing through to us.
835
00:45:54,926 --> 00:45:58,059
And then it was all
about pushing to get more
836
00:45:58,103 --> 00:46:01,410
painting done, week by week.
837
00:46:01,454 --> 00:46:04,631
That was putting a
lot of pressure on us
838
00:46:04,674 --> 00:46:07,982
and that kind of increased
when I had to go to Britain
839
00:46:09,854 --> 00:46:12,857
to do the sound and the music
840
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,816
and left Dorota on
her own in Poland
841
00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:20,734
to continue supervising
the production.
842
00:46:28,481 --> 00:46:29,874
- That was very
disappointing for me.
843
00:46:29,917 --> 00:46:32,267
I had written every
draft of the script
844
00:46:32,311 --> 00:46:34,313
to Clint Mansell's music.
845
00:46:34,356 --> 00:46:37,533
For me, he was the only
composer for Loving Vincent.
846
00:46:37,577 --> 00:46:39,840
I had my heart set on him.
847
00:46:39,884 --> 00:46:42,147
He was a hero and
inspiration to me
848
00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:44,845
so to have missed the
recording and mixing
849
00:46:44,889 --> 00:46:46,847
was really heartbreaking.
850
00:46:46,891 --> 00:46:48,806
But there was no choice
because at that point
851
00:46:48,849 --> 00:46:52,200
in the production, we were
at our most intensive stage.
852
00:46:52,244 --> 00:46:56,291
- We had people working
five, six, seven days a week.
853
00:46:56,335 --> 00:46:57,553
It was really up to the painters
854
00:46:57,597 --> 00:46:58,990
how much they painted per week,
855
00:46:59,033 --> 00:47:01,601
and the more they painted,
the more they got paid,
856
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:04,169
and obviously we had
a vested interest
857
00:47:04,212 --> 00:47:06,475
in trying to keep them
there as long as possible.
858
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:08,347
And one of the things
that we would do
859
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:10,218
that later became a tradition
860
00:47:10,262 --> 00:47:13,221
is that one of us would
cook for the entire crew
861
00:47:13,265 --> 00:47:15,920
and we'd post what we were
cooking on a Friday night
862
00:47:15,963 --> 00:47:18,923
and hope the painters would
be streaming into the studios
863
00:47:18,966 --> 00:47:20,707
on a Saturday.
864
00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:23,275
We also provided
breakfast in the morning
865
00:47:23,318 --> 00:47:26,104
to try and get painters
to start work earlier,
866
00:47:26,147 --> 00:47:31,152
but some painters
always preferred to
work during the night.
867
00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:34,112
- Like Vincent,
I like the night time,
868
00:47:34,155 --> 00:47:36,027
which was very
useful as each night
869
00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:38,856
I had to do scheduling
for the next day.
870
00:47:38,899 --> 00:47:43,773
Because in the day time, there
was too many approvals to do.
871
00:47:43,817 --> 00:47:46,037
Deciding which
animator did which shot
872
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,605
was incredibly important
to the quality of the film.
873
00:47:50,737 --> 00:47:52,173
The studio was
different by night.
874
00:47:52,217 --> 00:47:54,741
Much calmer and there
were few painters
875
00:47:54,784 --> 00:47:57,091
who were also night owls,
876
00:47:57,135 --> 00:48:00,007
so I could take a break
and review the work
877
00:48:00,051 --> 00:48:03,793
and discuss those shots
in a more in-depth way.
878
00:48:04,969 --> 00:48:06,448
But even with the long days,
879
00:48:06,492 --> 00:48:08,189
we knew that we
weren't going to meet
880
00:48:08,233 --> 00:48:11,410
our September deadline,
and a lot of our painters
881
00:48:11,453 --> 00:48:12,977
who had arranged
their return home
882
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:15,109
were starting to leave.
883
00:48:15,153 --> 00:48:19,940
- The pressure just went
up increasingly every week.
884
00:48:19,984 --> 00:48:22,638
- Because on one hand
we were still working very hard
885
00:48:22,682 --> 00:48:24,205
and very intense.
886
00:48:24,249 --> 00:48:25,946
The deadline was so close.
887
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:27,426
And on the other hand,
888
00:48:27,469 --> 00:48:29,994
there were these people
leaving every day
889
00:48:30,037 --> 00:48:31,909
and every week.
890
00:48:31,952 --> 00:48:33,562
- We would
have a farewell party
891
00:48:33,606 --> 00:48:36,870
at least once a week where
we had some cake and beer,
892
00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:39,394
and after we all said goodbye,
893
00:48:39,438 --> 00:48:41,048
the rest of the crew
went back to work.
894
00:48:41,092 --> 00:48:44,008
- The studios in
Wroclaw and Athens
895
00:48:44,051 --> 00:48:46,532
finished their animation
by the end of October.
896
00:48:46,575 --> 00:48:48,969
In Gdansk we were still
painting the front titles
897
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:50,884
and doing some corrections.
898
00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:55,019
But by November 21st, the
painting process stopped.
899
00:49:06,944 --> 00:49:08,728
- I think
that's it then guys.
900
00:49:20,653 --> 00:49:22,263
Okay, champagne.
901
00:49:22,307 --> 00:49:26,659
- By November 30th,
we dismantled all the
painting stations,
902
00:49:26,702 --> 00:49:29,967
and it was time to move
after four memorable years.
903
00:49:31,142 --> 00:49:33,709
- Two years and 50 weeks ago,
904
00:49:33,753 --> 00:49:37,104
I stood here in the snow
905
00:49:37,148 --> 00:49:39,585
giving the first
Kickstarter update.
906
00:49:40,716 --> 00:49:43,458
In this studio over here,
907
00:49:43,502 --> 00:49:45,286
which is now a warehouse,
908
00:49:46,722 --> 00:49:51,510
we dreamed, devised,
planned, produced, designed,
909
00:49:53,033 --> 00:49:57,124
and most importantly painted
the Loving Vincent film.
910
00:49:58,517 --> 00:50:01,389
- Our life was
revolving for five years
911
00:50:01,433 --> 00:50:03,304
around Loving Vincent.
912
00:50:03,348 --> 00:50:07,091
And we were expecting
that we're gonna have
913
00:50:07,134 --> 00:50:09,093
this incredible sense of relief
914
00:50:09,136 --> 00:50:11,573
and achievement
after we finished.
915
00:50:11,617 --> 00:50:13,097
But it was quite
different actually
916
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:16,143
because we finished in March
917
00:50:16,187 --> 00:50:19,016
and we had to wait
til the world premiere
918
00:50:19,059 --> 00:50:24,021
that was planned
for June in Annecy.
919
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:28,068
So yeah, these three months
were really difficult.
920
00:50:28,112 --> 00:50:31,767
I remember them as a very
dark period of my life
921
00:50:31,811 --> 00:50:36,033
because it was filled with
this sense of dread and anxiety
922
00:50:40,124 --> 00:50:43,562
and expectations
building up in my head.
923
00:50:45,129 --> 00:50:47,087
It was also very cold.
924
00:50:49,089 --> 00:50:51,526
I remember snowing
on the main day
925
00:50:51,570 --> 00:50:55,661
and I just remember
that I felt burned out.
926
00:50:55,704 --> 00:50:57,793
I felt physically and mentally
927
00:51:01,145 --> 00:51:04,278
really in a bad way, I think,
928
00:51:04,322 --> 00:51:09,283
and I just really wanted
finally to share this film.
929
00:51:10,850 --> 00:51:13,592
I had to introduce the
film and after I did that,
930
00:51:13,635 --> 00:51:16,508
which was incredibly
emotional moment for me,
931
00:51:19,293 --> 00:51:24,168
I had to go and
sit in the audience
932
00:51:25,256 --> 00:51:26,170
and be part of the audience
933
00:51:26,213 --> 00:51:27,693
and watch the film with them.
934
00:51:27,736 --> 00:51:31,218
I was terrified and I had
no idea what to expect.
935
00:51:31,262 --> 00:51:34,874
I knew that I have to share
this film with the audience
936
00:51:34,917 --> 00:51:36,745
and they will react,
937
00:51:36,789 --> 00:51:38,138
and I had no idea how.
938
00:52:13,217 --> 00:52:14,566
I do remember that moment,
939
00:52:14,609 --> 00:52:17,046
that time extremely vividly.
940
00:52:18,178 --> 00:52:20,224
The film comes to the end.
941
00:52:20,267 --> 00:52:23,052
The end credit starts to roll
942
00:52:23,096 --> 00:52:26,099
and the audience
starts applauding.
943
00:52:26,143 --> 00:52:30,756
But then that applause
is transforming
944
00:52:30,799 --> 00:52:32,410
into bigger applause,
945
00:52:34,238 --> 00:52:36,457
and then that bigger
applause is transforming
946
00:52:36,501 --> 00:52:38,416
into standing ovation
947
00:52:38,459 --> 00:52:41,723
and that lasts 12 minutes.
948
00:52:41,767 --> 00:52:43,595
- There was just
this incredible relief
949
00:52:43,638 --> 00:52:47,120
when we had that standing
ovation at the end of the film.
950
00:52:47,164 --> 00:52:50,123
- That was a moment in my
life when it just ,
951
00:52:51,211 --> 00:52:52,647
it all sort of washed away.
952
00:52:52,691 --> 00:52:55,824
The stress of the
previous five years.
953
00:52:55,868 --> 00:52:58,087
Just realizing that
we had done something
954
00:52:58,131 --> 00:52:59,306
that people appreciated.
955
00:52:59,350 --> 00:53:01,352
- Whatever happened after that,
956
00:53:01,395 --> 00:53:04,268
whether it was successful
in other countries
957
00:53:04,311 --> 00:53:05,356
or other festivals,
958
00:53:06,879 --> 00:53:10,012
we knew that there was
this kind of appreciation
959
00:53:10,056 --> 00:53:11,231
for the film there.
960
00:53:11,275 --> 00:53:13,712
And I think that was
a real turning point
961
00:53:13,755 --> 00:53:16,845
and things moved
very fast after that.
962
00:53:18,412 --> 00:53:21,633
The day after Annecy we went
straight out to Shanghai.
963
00:53:21,676 --> 00:53:25,202
- We said yes to
every opportunity
964
00:53:25,245 --> 00:53:26,507
to promote the film.
965
00:53:26,551 --> 00:53:28,335
We said yes to every interview,
966
00:53:28,379 --> 00:53:31,295
every screening we Hugh and I
967
00:53:31,338 --> 00:53:33,297
and all the promotional action.
968
00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:35,081
- We barely went home.
969
00:53:35,124 --> 00:53:37,692
We had 90 flights in 10 months,
970
00:53:37,736 --> 00:53:41,043
so you know, having nine
or 10 flights a month
971
00:53:41,087 --> 00:53:43,263
to try and be there
for all the premiers
972
00:53:43,307 --> 00:53:45,439
and to just do as
much press as possible
973
00:53:45,483 --> 00:53:48,747
because we didn't wanna
take anything for granted
974
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:51,097
and we'd spent seven years,
975
00:53:52,185 --> 00:53:54,970
or more even, making the film.
976
00:53:55,014 --> 00:53:56,581
And so we wanted to
do everything possible
977
00:53:56,624 --> 00:53:58,147
to make it successful.
978
00:53:58,191 --> 00:53:59,410
- It really is touching,
979
00:53:59,453 --> 00:54:02,326
to know that you
actually made a film
980
00:54:02,369 --> 00:54:04,197
that can make people cry,
981
00:54:04,241 --> 00:54:05,546
that can inspire people,
982
00:54:05,590 --> 00:54:08,070
and I think that's, for me,
983
00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:10,247
the biggest success
of the release.
984
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:11,683
- The reception of the audience,
985
00:54:11,726 --> 00:54:12,771
and it wasn't just
in the cinemas.
986
00:54:12,814 --> 00:54:15,469
It was also at the festivals.
987
00:54:15,513 --> 00:54:18,385
We got 16, I think
now we've actually,
988
00:54:18,429 --> 00:54:20,387
'cause we got another
couple over the past month,
989
00:54:20,431 --> 00:54:22,563
I think we got 18
audience awards.
990
00:54:22,607 --> 00:54:26,393
And those awards are
voted for by the audiences
991
00:54:26,437 --> 00:54:28,177
and in a way they're
like the best awards
992
00:54:28,221 --> 00:54:31,268
because it's the
people going out there
993
00:54:31,311 --> 00:54:33,661
bothering to attend
the festivals
994
00:54:33,705 --> 00:54:35,141
and bothering to vote
995
00:54:35,184 --> 00:54:39,319
and backing you for
what you've done.
996
00:54:39,363 --> 00:54:41,321
- In China, in the US,
997
00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:43,323
in Germany, the Netherlands,
998
00:54:43,367 --> 00:54:46,021
in virtually every
country we visited,
999
00:54:46,065 --> 00:54:51,070
we had these people
coming up to us with tears
1000
00:54:56,815 --> 00:54:59,383
that wanted to share their love
1001
00:54:59,426 --> 00:55:02,516
and wanted to come
up to us and hug us.
1002
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,214
I wish that Vincent
could have had
1003
00:55:05,258 --> 00:55:09,044
some of these kind words,
these good emotions,
1004
00:55:09,088 --> 00:55:13,005
these hugs that I have received,
1005
00:55:13,048 --> 00:55:16,443
because I believe that
this could keep him going
1006
00:55:16,487 --> 00:55:18,402
and keep him alive
for more years
1007
00:55:18,445 --> 00:55:22,623
and keep him dreaming
and creating.
1008
00:55:28,107 --> 00:55:29,413
- The
Academy of Motion Picture
1009
00:55:29,456 --> 00:55:31,502
Arts and Sciences invites
you to be its guest
1010
00:55:31,545 --> 00:55:34,374
at the 37th annual
awards presentation.
1011
00:55:35,854 --> 00:55:39,161
- The film had done
really well at festivals,
1012
00:55:39,205 --> 00:55:40,989
really well in the cinemas.
1013
00:55:41,033 --> 00:55:43,340
Financially it had
been a success.
1014
00:55:43,383 --> 00:55:46,734
Yet somehow we were
still viewed as outsiders
1015
00:55:46,778 --> 00:55:48,345
within the film industry.
1016
00:55:48,388 --> 00:55:52,087
And the biggest stamp of
legitimacy that you can get
1017
00:55:52,131 --> 00:55:54,525
in the film industry
is an Oscar nomination.
1018
00:55:54,568 --> 00:55:57,876
We were all racked
with nerves in the days
1019
00:55:57,919 --> 00:56:02,924
leading up to the announcement
of the Oscars, 2018.
1020
00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:08,190
- For best animated feature
film, The Boss Baby.
1021
00:56:11,585 --> 00:56:12,456
The Bread Winner.
1022
00:56:15,110 --> 00:56:16,329
Coco
1023
00:56:19,027 --> 00:56:20,028
Ferdinand.
1024
00:56:22,117 --> 00:56:23,815
And, Loving Vincent.76368
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