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Charlotte
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Deborah
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Suzanne
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Deidre
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Samantha
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Rowan
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Man: She's different
from the others.
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Narrator: Double, double
toil and trouble,
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fire burn and cauldron bubble,
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filet of a fenny snake,
in the cauldron boil and bake.
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Where did you learn
about witches?
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Are you a good witch
or a bad witch?
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Who me?
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I'm not a witch at all.
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Well, is that the witch?
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Witch.
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Tell me, what do you do
with witches?
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All: Burn them!
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Narrator: Witches have been
known to put fear
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in the hearts of men.
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I'm not here
to frighten you.
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...and devour
little children.
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Witches of England...
you're a disgrace!
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We kill our husbands, too.
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Where did you all come up
with these ideas?
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Lisa:
If they're really witches,
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why don't they use
their powers to escape?
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That sounds like witch talk
to me.
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I kept trying to tell you.
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Narrator: The story is a lot
more complicated.
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Witches aren't real,
you guys.
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Occulus reparo.
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Let me hear you scream
like a witch.
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Narrator: We're real,
and we walk among you.
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There's a pretty big spectrum
of what a witch can be.
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Wife, queen, daughter, mistress.
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Grossman:
She can be young and sexy,
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but then she will seduce you
to sin.
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Dorsey: You've got this image
of the witch as the crone,
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wrinkly face.
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Rose: I don't have to have
a witch's hat.
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You know, I do have cauldrons.
I have many of them.
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Yates Garcia:
I do my daily things.
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I clean up after my cats.
I hate washing the dishes.
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Rose: I have to drop my kids
off at school in the morning
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and I, like, attend
parent-teacher meetings.
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I'm part of my community
in all these different ways.
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This is me.
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Yates Garcia: A witch is someone
who stands on her own
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and who's powerful.
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Who wouldn't want to be one?
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Dorsey: People respond to it
with a joke or, you know,
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"I know another word
that rhymes with witch,
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but it begins with a 'B.'"
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Luna: "Are you gonna
put a spell on me?"
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Or, "Are you gonna hex me
if we break up?"
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And it's like, "Maybe."
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Velasquez: Am I at home lighting
candles and burning stuff
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so my crush
will fall in love with me?
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100.
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Grossman:
Witches represent both our fears
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and our fantasies
about feminine power.
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Anybody that deviates
from this perfect,
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maternal, beatific,
obedient woman
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can be reframed as a winch.
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Narrator:
Our journey has been long,
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and the truth
will surprise you.
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I was brought up practicing
witchcraft.
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My mother is a witch.
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She was resisting very
patriarchal culture and society
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in the '50s.
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She was finding her power
more and more when I was young,
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and so I was
very influenced by that.
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When I was 13 or, I think,
the first menstruation,
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I had a coming-of-age ceremony
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where all the women
from the coven came together,
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and it was called
the Rite of Roses.
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A coven is just
a group of friends
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who practice witchcraft
together.
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We sit in a circle and say,
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all the women
in your family line
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back as far as you can remember.
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I am Amanda,
daughter of Lucinda,
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daughter of Patricia,
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daughter of Lila,
daughter of Mariana.
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And then say,
"Daughter of she,"
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meaning going back
to the beginning of time.
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You dip the rose in the water,
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and your mother
brushes it on your cheeks,
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and then you take a walk in the
moonlight and do some chanting.
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It's really about
coming into your power,
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your beauty, your authority,
your eroticism,
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and connecting with the other
women of your community.
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Narrator: The pentacle may not
be what you think.
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It represents harmony
with the elements,
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a sign of magic and paganism.
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Ward: Witchcraft is a form
of paganism,
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and paganism, basically,
in its very ancient origins
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had two particular aspects,
or forms, of worship.
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One is nature and the other
is the divine feminine.
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Grossman:
Paganism essentially says
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we all have access to divinity
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and that we don't
need a mediator.
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It doesn't have one central text
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or one church or temple
that you have to join.
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We can just communicate
with the spirit world ourselves
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because the spirit world
is everywhere.
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For most witches,
we relate to the gods,
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the goddesses, the divine,
more like forces of nature.
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There are so many goddesses
in witchcraft --
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Medea, Circe,
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Melusina, Pythia,
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and then you have Hecate,
who is a goddess
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that has taken
many different forms
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in many different cultures --
a goddess of childbirth,
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a protector of women,
goddess of the moon.
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One of the reasons
why witches of today love her
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is because
she's a goddess of magic.
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She finds power in the shadows.
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Even in the dark,
she lights the way.
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Her symbol is the key.
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She is the guardian
of the threshold,
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the liminal spaces
between the worlds.
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Grossman: The figure
of the witch in literature
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and in oral stories
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was derived
from goddesses and fairies
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and all of these
other mythological beings
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who had immense power
and who were feminine
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and who were lauded
just as much as the male
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or more masculine gods
and figures, too.
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But as politics evolved,
as, frankly,
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men gained more and more power
in society
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and in culture-making overall,
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these goddesses, these fairies,
these priestesses
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seem to lose status
in their society.
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Yates Garcia: When the
Holy Roman empire took over
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and Christianity started
to dominate all of Europe,
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Hecate was turned into a demon,
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a demonic figure,
a goddess of hell.
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She was turned into a hag,
a crone, an old woman,
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as if that's the worst thing
that could happen to you,
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as if that in itself
is horrifying.
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Ward: Witchcraft
for most of human history
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has been antithetical
to Christianity,
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often seen as allied
to some kind of demonic power,
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and so the church hierarchy
saw it as a threat
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to their position and power.
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Grossman: The church popularized
the notion
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that anybody who was not
Christian
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was going to hell,
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that you were
on the path of sin,
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that you were diabolical,
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and, yes, that can be people who
we might consider to be pagan.
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It's Jewish people,
it's Indigenous people,
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it's people who are practicing
the religions of Africa.
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It's anybody that has not been
converted yet.
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The other piece of the witch's
story is around medicine
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and specifically around
reproductive care.
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Yates Garcia: Giving birth,
you had midwives --
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this group of women who learned
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about plants and medicine
and healing,
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from the common cold
to a heartbreak.
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Narrator: Europe sees a new age
in medical science
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from the 1400s to the 1700s,
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but only men are allowed
into their universities.
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Midwives are eyed with mistrust,
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and we are about to be hunted.
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Grossman: In ancient Greece
and ancient Rome,
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there were also always figures,
often women,
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who you would go to
and you could procure
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some kind of herbal
or botanical magic from them,
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and this is what I consider
to be a service magician.
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These people sometimes
were respected,
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sometimes were considered
a bit dangerous,
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but it's kind of
the precursor to chemistry,
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to the field of medicine.
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Yates Garcia: The word witch
means person of knowledge,
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means wise one,
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but then over time,
that word transformed
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into something
that was an insult.
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Grossman:
At the end of the 15th century,
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we see the advent
of the printing press,
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and one of
the most popular things
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for these presses to print
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are what we call
witch-hunting manuals.
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One of the most famous books
that comes out is called
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the "Malleus Maleficarum,"
or the "Witches Hammer."
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This book is written by
Jacob Sprenger
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and a religious zealot
named Heinrich Kramer.
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Kramer is involved
in a witch trial,
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which he loses against
a group of women.
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And he then writes this book,
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the "Hammer of Witches."
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Narrator:
The "Malleus Maleficarum"
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weaponizes the printed
manuscript against witches...
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...and therefore against women.
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You're promiscuous
and that's evil,
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and you're wicked,
so you're a witch.
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So you would be killed
as a witch then.
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You're killed if you're ugly.
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You're killed
if you're beautiful.
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There's no winning.
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The "Malleus Maleficarum"
is printed and disseminated
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throughout Western Europe.
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Berger: And so that book
became essential
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in terms of demonology
in the West,
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the notion that the devil
is active in the world
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and gathering helpers,
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and those helpers
are called witches.
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Tell how you tempt us
with pretty things.
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Tell how you suckle the snake.
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-Tell!
-Tell!
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When you say the word witchcraft
in the United States,
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most people immediately think of
the Salem witch trials in 1692.
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Period of about nine months,
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there was widespread
moral panic.
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Basically, anybody could be
accused of witchcraft --
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children accusing their mothers
or their fathers and vice versa.
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Grossman: I think
one of the reasons that Salem
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has captured
a lot of our imaginations
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is that the center
of that story is young girls.
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Narrator: Since 1953,
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Arthur Miller's
Tony Award-winning play
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"The Crucible"...
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But they're speaking
of witchcraft.
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...has been performed
on stages and screens
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by scores of young women.You drank a charm to kill
John Proctor's wife!
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Miller's play would use
the real Salem witch trials
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as the basis of his allegory
about McCarthyism,
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but he casts
his Abigail Williams
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as a devious home wrecker
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when in real life,
Abigail was only 11.
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Grossman:
"The Crucible" re-popularized
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the Salem witch trials,
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but in real life,
what happened in Salem
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is a less sensationalist story
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than the one that Arthur Miller
told in "The Crucible,"
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which is super sexualized.
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Witch!
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Ward: There were 19 people
that were hung.
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14 of those were women
and 5 of them were men.
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And two dogs were
executed for witchcraft.
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Burn the witch.
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But, in fact,
no one was actually
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burned to death in Salem.
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People were hung.
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People were pressed to death
with heavy stones.
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And the loss of life
was horrific,
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but we're talking
a couple dozen people,
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as opposed to
the tens of thousands of people
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that were killed, you know,
throughout Western Europe.
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The witch hunts are sometimes
called the Burning Times
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because many, many people were
burned in the public square
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and would often burn to death
or asphyxiate.
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Particularly in England,
there are also some tests
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if one is accused
of being a witch.
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You might prick them with a pin
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and see if the wound bleeds.
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You might put them in water
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with chains or weights
on their body
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and see if they drown.
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If the person drowns,
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"Oh, I guess they weren't
a witch after all,"
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so it's a real
lose-lose situation.
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Now, were these women
actually witches?
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Most of the research suggests
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that the women who were killed
were innocents.
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And it was a crime that was
almost impossible to disprove.
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Many of the accusations
had to do with dreams.
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There was spectral evidence.
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For example, King James --
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the first of England,
the sixth of Scotland --
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he and his new bride
from Denmark
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were hit by a terrible storm.
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They were crossing from Denmark
back to Scotland
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and almost died in a shipwreck.
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He had a dream in which
he thought he had been cursed.
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He then became convinced
of witchcraft.
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Narrator: King James,
obsessed with witchcraft,
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convicts the village's
eldest midwife, Agnes Sampson.
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Shaven, tied, and tortured,
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the devil's mark
is found on her body.
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Agnes confesses.
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She tells a lurid tale
of meeting demons
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with other witches
on Halloween night
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to curse the king in front
of hundreds of spectators.
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Berger: When somebody admits
something under torture,
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we know that
they often tell lies.
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They'll say anything.
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And so she was killed for it.
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In Scotland,
witches were burnt on the stake,
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so she was burnt.
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Grossman:
The witch hunts as we know them
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are not one unified event.
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Scholars believe between
50,000 and 100,000 people
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were killed
during the witch hunts,
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which is a genocide.
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Narrator: The legacy
of the witch trials never dies
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and lives on
to take shape in the new world.
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♪
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Man: Beautiful Haiti --
well made the veil of paradise.
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Yet as I penetrated deeper
into the jungle,
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I saw that
which few white men ever see,
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the cult of the voodoo.
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♪
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Nwokocha:
The way that we perceive
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any African-derived
religious traditions
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has a lot to do with
when the U.S. occupied Haiti
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from 1915 to 1934.
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The Haitian president
was assassinated,
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and the U.S. president,
Woodrow Wilson,
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wanted to "help"
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with the economic and financial
stability of Haiti.
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They brought in Marines,
journalists, anthropologists
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that came to Haiti
to understand
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what the people
and the communities are like.
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There were journal articles,
books, early films
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that talked about
the religious tradition
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from a very voyeuristic,
white-supremacist notion.
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Man: The cult of voodoo
embodies the worship
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and fear of devil God.
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Nwokocha: They basically called
voodoo demonic,
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and they demonized
the religious tradition.
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♪
342
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The way we think about zombies,
343
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the way that we understand
the Vodou,
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stems from this time.
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♪
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You start to hear
this talk about zombies,
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especially from around
the '30s, the '40s,
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this kind of
Hollywood conception
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with films like "White Zombie."
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Man:
Haiti, land of the Voodoo.
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Dorsey: ...where you've got
this exoticized other.
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Zombie!
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Dorsey: I think that
the zombie myth really sort of
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grew out of the fact
that there were puffer fish
355
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that were native
to the Haitian waters
356
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that also caused
temporary paralysis.
357
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And when somebody was being
a bad person in society --
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somebody who might be
harmful to children,
359
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somebody who might be
stealing from their neighbor --
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they couldn't always necessarily
have the recourse
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of an honest and just
and helpful police force.
362
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This combination
of animal medicines, of herbs,
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would simulate paralysis,
364
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and people would maybe
think they're dead.
365
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And then they would be moved
to a different town
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or a different part
of the area,
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and then they wouldn't be
an issue anymore.
368
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And it was not
this flesh-eating thing
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that it's turned into now.
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♪
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Ramnes.
Ah!
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For the most part,
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Hollywood gets everything wrong
about voodoo.
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It is vilified.
It's demonized.
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I think that a lot of people
associate
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the traditional voodoo doll,
or hoodoo doll, with pins in it
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as being an integral part
of the religion,
378
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when the reality of it is
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it doesn't have anything to do
with the religion.
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In other systems of witchcraft,
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mainly European witchcraft
where you build a poppet
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and then you can perform
sympathetic magic with that --
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people took that
and turned it into,
384
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"If I stab someone in the foot
with a pin on their doll,
385
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then maybe their foot
will hurt."
386
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And this isn't something
that came from Africa
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or African diasporan people
at all.
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♪
389
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I wish people would know
that witchcraft and voodoo
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aren't necessarily dark
or shady or shifty.
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Out of a need
to protect itself,
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not all the secrets
were revealed.
393
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For a lot of us,
it really was a situation
394
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where we were persecuted.
395
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Nwokocha: When we think about
transatlantic slavery,
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this is a forced migration
from west and central Africa,
397
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from Nigeria, from Benin,
from Angola, from the Congo.
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They brought with them
their religion.
399
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They brought
with them their beliefs.
400
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Many of our ancestors
were enslaved,
401
00:22:16,944 --> 00:22:19,250
and so we believe
that their survival
402
00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:22,515
was wrapped up
in their knowledge of healing.
403
00:22:22,645 --> 00:22:24,430
Nwokocha:
Haitian Vodou is derived
404
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,955
from many
African indigenous peoples.
405
00:22:28,085 --> 00:22:34,222
Then Hoodoo is another tradition
about root work and conjure.
406
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:37,573
Voodoo has its origins
in Haitian Vodou,
407
00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:41,447
but is actually practiced
in New Orleans.
408
00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:45,102
But imagine, voodoo is --
it's a worldview.
409
00:22:45,233 --> 00:22:47,104
It's a way of knowing.
410
00:22:47,235 --> 00:22:49,280
Not only is it a belief system,
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it is a way of how you orient
yourself in the world.
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Dorsey: There are several
wonderful rituals
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00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:59,290
and ceremonies
that actually are a part
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of the practice of voodoo
and hoodoo,
415
00:23:01,989 --> 00:23:05,209
and very often they're
centered around healing,
416
00:23:05,340 --> 00:23:08,430
not just healing an individual,
but healing the community.
417
00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:09,823
My name is Lilith Dorsey,
418
00:23:09,953 --> 00:23:11,868
and I'm a voodoo priestess
and author.
419
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My practice is primarily
New Orleans voodoo-based,
420
00:23:15,132 --> 00:23:17,483
and that involves
honoring the ancestors
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00:23:17,613 --> 00:23:21,704
and honoring the spirits
of New Orleans.
422
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Her name was Marie.
423
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She did
all that old voodoo stuff
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for all them rich folks
down there in New Orleans.
425
00:23:31,148 --> 00:23:34,369
Marie Laveau is the most popular
voodoo queen ever.
426
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♪ Voodoo lady named Marie
427
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Dorsey:
They've been singing that song
for at least 100 years.
428
00:23:39,374 --> 00:23:41,550
♪ I said, Marie Laveau
429
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♪ I said, Marie Laveau,
you lovely witch ♪
430
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♪ Why don't you give me
a little... ♪
431
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It is said
that she died in 1881.
432
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She was a hairdresser,
433
00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:55,695
and she would do the hair
of all these rich people
434
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and learn all their secrets,
be their confidant,
435
00:23:59,046 --> 00:24:00,613
and then
when she wanted something,
436
00:24:00,743 --> 00:24:02,702
leverage that information
437
00:24:02,832 --> 00:24:06,575
to help the disenfranchised
people of the city.
438
00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:09,143
It is said that
she used to visit prisoners
439
00:24:09,273 --> 00:24:12,712
and make them some sort of
spiritual psychedelic gumbo
440
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that she would feed them,
441
00:24:14,844 --> 00:24:16,933
which I think is fantastic.
442
00:24:17,064 --> 00:24:20,371
And she was the first person
that did public magic ritual
443
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in New Orleans at Congo Square,
at the Bayou St. John,
444
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and other sites
around New Orleans,
445
00:24:25,899 --> 00:24:28,858
and those were attended
by people of all races,
446
00:24:28,989 --> 00:24:30,556
people of all classes.
447
00:24:30,686 --> 00:24:33,036
People think of her
as this personification of evil
448
00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:36,170
when, in reality, she used to
go to church every week,
449
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:38,738
that the reason we know
what we know about her today
450
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is because
a lot of the information
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00:24:40,914 --> 00:24:43,220
was kept by the archdiocese.
452
00:24:43,351 --> 00:24:46,615
She wasn't the first voodoo
queen and she wasn't the last,
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00:24:46,746 --> 00:24:49,052
but she was certainly
the most powerful.
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♪
455
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Berger: Magic is a power,
like electricity.
456
00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:04,590
It could be used for positive
or negative goals.
457
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,419
It's very real for the people
who experience it.
458
00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:11,335
Whether that experience
is with Christ,
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00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,512
with God, with the goddess,
460
00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:15,992
they've been transformed by it.
461
00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:22,782
Traditionally,
tarot is thought of
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00:25:22,912 --> 00:25:25,567
as being divination
463
00:25:25,698 --> 00:25:30,006
or being able
to peer into the future.
464
00:25:32,356 --> 00:25:36,012
In my own life,
my tarot practice has been
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a way for me
to connect to my intuition.
466
00:25:41,017 --> 00:25:42,845
There's a lot of candle magic
that I do.
467
00:25:42,976 --> 00:25:45,413
There's a lot of spell craft
that I do.
468
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:48,590
Cauldrons have a whole host
of connections
469
00:25:48,721 --> 00:25:50,679
which are really meaningful
for witches.
470
00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:54,161
It's a place where things mix,
where elements combine,
471
00:25:54,291 --> 00:25:59,122
where things change shape and
change form in a nourishing way.
472
00:25:59,253 --> 00:26:01,603
Velasquez:
There's a lot of shape-shifting
things that you can do.
473
00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:03,649
And, I mean, in my case,
I'm from L.A.
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00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:07,391
I've had a little bit of work
done as well, like, you know,
475
00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:08,828
on my face here and there,
476
00:26:08,958 --> 00:26:10,873
so I also have shape shifted
in my own way.
477
00:26:11,004 --> 00:26:12,483
You know?
478
00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:14,268
Dorsey: I know a witch
that used to have a cat box
479
00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:15,617
outside the front door,
480
00:26:15,748 --> 00:26:17,053
and she would make people
stand in it
481
00:26:17,184 --> 00:26:19,534
before they entered the house.
482
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:20,796
I always thought
that was beautiful.
483
00:26:20,927 --> 00:26:23,059
It was like
a decontamination station.
484
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:25,975
I love roses because
it's such tender,
485
00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:30,066
compassionate, divine,
feminine energy.
486
00:26:30,197 --> 00:26:34,375
It protects the heart
because roses also have thorns.
487
00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:38,074
Gottesdiener:
I have had times when I've
pulled the Five of Cups,
488
00:26:38,205 --> 00:26:42,731
which generally has a person
crying and they're very sad.
489
00:26:42,862 --> 00:26:44,864
And I was depressed as fuck,
and I was like,
490
00:26:44,994 --> 00:26:46,996
"Thank you, tarot,
for seeing me."
491
00:26:47,127 --> 00:26:50,304
Luna: I love love spells.
I love healing spells.
492
00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:52,480
I like things that make people
feel confident
493
00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:55,352
and feel good about themselves.
494
00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:58,878
I love magic
that has to do with love
495
00:26:59,008 --> 00:27:03,534
and feeling happy,
feeling sexy.
496
00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:05,014
Sometimes it can backfire.
497
00:27:05,145 --> 00:27:07,103
Sometimes it'll absolutely
blow up in your face.
498
00:27:07,234 --> 00:27:09,279
Don't be out here, like,
putting out negative energy
499
00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:11,151
because there's always
that rule, right?
500
00:27:11,281 --> 00:27:12,674
Never mind the Power of Three,
501
00:27:12,805 --> 00:27:14,807
what you do will
come back to thee.
502
00:27:14,937 --> 00:27:17,287
Berger: Magic tends to be
more empowering.
503
00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:19,463
You think of yourself
as not a supplicant,
504
00:27:19,594 --> 00:27:20,682
but as a participant.
505
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,340
Berger: For most witches,
they see themselves
506
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:28,951
as in connection
with the goddess,
507
00:27:29,082 --> 00:27:32,346
sometimes with
their own ancestors,
508
00:27:32,476 --> 00:27:35,697
and so magic is part
of a spiritual world.
509
00:27:39,832 --> 00:27:42,573
Luna: When we think
about women in witchcraft,
510
00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:44,532
you know,
there's a long history.
511
00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:47,927
Witches have existed
on every continent.
512
00:27:48,057 --> 00:27:50,494
Regardless
of if you call yourself a witch
513
00:27:50,625 --> 00:27:52,627
or a healer or a seer,
514
00:27:52,758 --> 00:27:55,499
this innate power
has been gifted to us.
515
00:27:55,630 --> 00:28:00,853
♪
516
00:28:00,983 --> 00:28:06,075
♪
517
00:28:06,206 --> 00:28:08,948
Dorsey:
Feminine power has always
been an important component,
518
00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:10,906
especially
in New Orleans Voodoo.
519
00:28:11,037 --> 00:28:12,212
They held the tradition --
520
00:28:12,342 --> 00:28:14,605
not only held
the Creole language,
521
00:28:14,736 --> 00:28:18,914
held the knowledge of the herbs,
the cooking, the child rearing,
522
00:28:19,045 --> 00:28:22,526
things that were
very integral to society,
523
00:28:22,657 --> 00:28:24,964
very integral
to everybody succeeding
524
00:28:25,094 --> 00:28:26,966
and remembering
where they came from.
525
00:28:27,096 --> 00:28:29,882
I picture the women
in my family --
526
00:28:30,012 --> 00:28:32,623
my abuelas,
my tías,my primas,
527
00:28:32,754 --> 00:28:35,235
and how protective
they are of me.
528
00:28:35,365 --> 00:28:37,324
You don't know the women
in my lineage.
529
00:28:37,454 --> 00:28:39,282
Like, we don't fuck around,
and they're not gonna
530
00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:42,982
let their gay grandkid, like,
go through some shit, you know?
531
00:28:43,112 --> 00:28:45,636
Rose: I started to, like,
seek out those people
532
00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:47,682
who had their wisdom
of their grandmothers
533
00:28:47,813 --> 00:28:49,684
and their grandfathers
and say to them,
534
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:51,164
"Do you remember this plant?
535
00:28:51,294 --> 00:28:53,644
Do you remember how your grandma
used to use this plant?"
536
00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:56,604
And it was like their whole face
would light up.
537
00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:59,041
"Oh, she'd give it to me, like,
when I was having cramps."
538
00:28:59,172 --> 00:29:01,174
"She'd give it to me
when I couldn't sleep."
539
00:29:01,304 --> 00:29:03,437
"She'd give it to me for a bath
for protection.
540
00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:06,440
And I'm like, "My grandmother
did the same thing."
541
00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:10,270
I come from lots of different
facets of spirituality.
542
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,838
I grew up with certain portions
of my family
543
00:29:12,968 --> 00:29:16,015
who practice variations
of folk magic.
544
00:29:16,145 --> 00:29:18,495
I grew up with other portions
of my family
545
00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:20,454
that practiced hoodoo
or conjure.
546
00:29:20,584 --> 00:29:23,196
I've learned a lot
from my grandmothers,
547
00:29:23,326 --> 00:29:25,720
and having magic
within my blood,
548
00:29:25,851 --> 00:29:28,854
within my family,
it's who I am.
549
00:29:28,984 --> 00:29:30,812
It's just my essence.
550
00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:38,037
Ward: Both men and women
have practiced witchcraft
551
00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:40,604
throughout human history,
552
00:29:40,735 --> 00:29:44,913
but women don't get
the same prestige or power
553
00:29:45,044 --> 00:29:48,047
and generally work
in the shadows.
554
00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:53,052
Men have gotten more prestige
555
00:29:53,182 --> 00:29:56,359
and have been given more credit
for what they're doing.
556
00:29:59,493 --> 00:30:03,932
♪
557
00:30:04,063 --> 00:30:08,415
Yates Garcia: If you think about
most of the spiritual traditions
558
00:30:08,545 --> 00:30:11,897
or religious traditions
of the world,
559
00:30:12,027 --> 00:30:16,031
most of them are not
made in the image of women...
560
00:30:17,859 --> 00:30:22,559
...whereas witchcraft,
the people who are making it,
561
00:30:22,690 --> 00:30:24,213
who are writing
the books about it,
562
00:30:24,344 --> 00:30:28,391
who are practicing it,
are literally feminists.
563
00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:35,877
An interesting thing happens
in the 20th century.
564
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,752
Certain scholars, like a woman
named Margaret Murray,
565
00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:47,367
wrote several books positing
that there was a witch cult
566
00:30:47,497 --> 00:30:52,198
that existed in Western Europe
567
00:30:52,328 --> 00:30:56,724
and that during the witch hunts,
she believed,
568
00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:59,248
a lot of the confessions
569
00:30:59,379 --> 00:31:03,731
of those who were accused
of being witches
570
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:07,735
were actually somewhat true.
571
00:31:10,607 --> 00:31:15,917
Someone who's quoted a lot
is a woman named Isobel Gowdie,
572
00:31:16,048 --> 00:31:19,225
because she has
this very elaborate,
573
00:31:19,355 --> 00:31:23,011
fantastical, fantasmagorical
confession.
574
00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:27,929
She talks about
not only being a witch,
575
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:31,541
but describes in detail
the sabbats,
576
00:31:31,672 --> 00:31:35,806
or the meetings of witches,
that she would engage in,
577
00:31:35,937 --> 00:31:39,854
and she essentially details
what we now refer to today
578
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:43,205
as being a coven --
579
00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:45,381
12 people who would meet
580
00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:48,819
and then one person
overseeing the coven
581
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:52,780
as a priest or a priestess.
582
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:57,654
Margaret Murray takes
this confession of Isobel Gowdie
583
00:31:57,785 --> 00:32:01,789
to be 100% literal.
584
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,010
As romantic as that idea is,
585
00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:08,709
it has been since kind of
picked apart by scholars.
586
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:12,191
Margaret Murray is considered
a pretty controversial figure.
587
00:32:12,321 --> 00:32:15,368
However, when her books
came out,
588
00:32:15,498 --> 00:32:19,763
there were many people
who were thrilled by them,
589
00:32:19,894 --> 00:32:24,159
the most prominent one being
a man named Gerald Gardner.
590
00:32:26,118 --> 00:32:28,729
He took a lot of
Margaret Murray's ideas,
591
00:32:28,859 --> 00:32:30,949
and he ran with them.
592
00:32:32,994 --> 00:32:35,779
Narrator:
In England, in 1951,
593
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:41,394
Gerald Gardner forms his own
coven made of 13 members.
594
00:32:41,524 --> 00:32:43,874
He designs a hierarchy
595
00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:47,574
and creates
secret initiations and rituals.
596
00:32:47,704 --> 00:32:52,448
This new religion
is called Wicca.
597
00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:55,103
There's eight major holidays
within Wicca,
598
00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:58,063
the Wheel of the Year,
or the eight sabbats.
599
00:32:58,193 --> 00:33:01,022
What regularly is celebrated
is death.
600
00:33:01,153 --> 00:33:04,895
It's seen as needed and good
for renewal,
601
00:33:05,026 --> 00:33:07,550
particularly
in Celtic countries.
602
00:33:07,681 --> 00:33:12,512
Samhain was a traditional
holiday prior to Christianity,
603
00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:19,301
and it always involved the dead
returning from the beyond.
604
00:33:19,432 --> 00:33:22,043
The dead were said to come
that night,
605
00:33:22,174 --> 00:33:23,523
and you wanted to appease them
606
00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:26,526
because you don't want, really,
to piss off the dead,
607
00:33:26,656 --> 00:33:30,225
right, who have special powers.
608
00:33:30,356 --> 00:33:34,142
This holiday became known
as Halloween.
609
00:33:38,755 --> 00:33:41,410
Man: Sweeping the crossroads
near his home in Castletown,
610
00:33:41,541 --> 00:33:45,284
we found a self-professed witch,
Dr. G.B. Gardner.
611
00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:46,981
Placing the dust in a shoe
612
00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:49,592
is done to simulate
sweeping away bad luck.
613
00:33:49,723 --> 00:33:53,988
♪
614
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:57,078
Grossman:
In Gerald Gardner's coven,
615
00:33:57,209 --> 00:34:01,735
he had both a man
616
00:34:01,865 --> 00:34:07,741
who was kind of a stand-in
for the Horned God.
617
00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:10,526
He would also have
a high priestess,
618
00:34:10,657 --> 00:34:12,963
and the high priestess
was actually the one
619
00:34:13,094 --> 00:34:14,965
who was really in charge,
620
00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:19,796
and there was a lot of ritual
around goddess worship,
621
00:34:19,927 --> 00:34:24,453
doing spells, doing rituals,
raising energy.
622
00:34:24,584 --> 00:34:27,456
Berger:
But Gardner was not a feminist.
623
00:34:27,587 --> 00:34:30,938
When the high priestess
started to get old,
624
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:33,984
Gardner said, "She's out."
625
00:34:34,115 --> 00:34:38,076
The high priestess
has to be young and pretty.
626
00:34:41,862 --> 00:34:46,214
He used ancient witchcraft
beliefs and practices,
627
00:34:46,345 --> 00:34:49,391
but also a lot of the writings
and beliefs
628
00:34:49,522 --> 00:34:53,265
and practices
of Aleister Crowley,
629
00:34:53,395 --> 00:34:57,573
who is considered to be
a magician,
630
00:34:57,704 --> 00:35:02,012
mystic, poet, novelist.
631
00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:06,974
On the one hand, Crowley
was a proponent of witchcraft
632
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:11,239
and empowerment
of those not in power.
633
00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:13,372
But on the other hand,
he was also into
634
00:35:13,502 --> 00:35:19,421
the black-magic aspect --
revenge, retribution,
635
00:35:19,552 --> 00:35:23,947
consequences, fighting against
the powers that be.
636
00:35:24,078 --> 00:35:26,602
There's an aspect
of youth rebellion.
637
00:35:29,736 --> 00:35:33,914
Amongst Aleister Crowley's
followers, it's a long list --
638
00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:37,744
Black Sabbath, AC/DC,
639
00:35:37,874 --> 00:35:41,356
The Beatles
with "Sergeant Pepper's."
640
00:35:41,487 --> 00:35:44,577
Crowley is on the cover
of the album.
641
00:35:48,972 --> 00:35:52,237
If you want to become a Wiccan
or a witch,
642
00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:55,762
you join a coven,
you join a group.
643
00:35:55,892 --> 00:35:59,244
And there's supposed to be
secrets that no one shares,
644
00:35:59,374 --> 00:36:04,727
and you're supposed to be
initiated into the secrets.
645
00:36:04,858 --> 00:36:08,862
But what happens to the religion
when it comes to America?
646
00:36:08,992 --> 00:36:10,646
It's the 1960s,
647
00:36:10,777 --> 00:36:13,780
and there's a growth
of all sorts of change, right?
648
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:17,827
There's protest movements
against the Vietnam War,
649
00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:22,005
for gay rights, civil rights
for African Americans...
650
00:36:22,136 --> 00:36:23,877
More power to the people!
651
00:36:24,007 --> 00:36:25,357
Berger:
...and of course feminism.
652
00:36:25,487 --> 00:36:26,923
Man: The women of America
are marching.
653
00:36:27,054 --> 00:36:28,751
Women have caught onto the game.
654
00:36:28,882 --> 00:36:30,492
You have a lot of options.
You can be somebody's wife.
655
00:36:30,623 --> 00:36:32,799
You can be somebody's mother.
You can be somebody's lover.
656
00:36:32,929 --> 00:36:35,671
You can be somebody's anything,
but you can't be somebody.
657
00:36:35,802 --> 00:36:39,806
Grossman: During the second wave
of feminism,
658
00:36:39,936 --> 00:36:41,590
women, of course,
659
00:36:41,721 --> 00:36:44,854
are trying to have autonomy
over their own bodies.
660
00:36:44,985 --> 00:36:48,641
They are trying to get
economic equality.
661
00:36:48,771 --> 00:36:53,428
We see a renewed interest
in the figure of the witch.
662
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:55,343
Berger:
Forget that the high priestess
663
00:36:55,474 --> 00:36:57,693
has to be
traditionally beautiful.
664
00:36:57,824 --> 00:37:00,261
Forget that the high priestess
has to be young.
665
00:37:00,392 --> 00:37:02,916
Forget all that.
666
00:37:03,046 --> 00:37:05,614
And witchcraft
started to spread.
667
00:37:05,745 --> 00:37:09,357
Ma'am, what is the organization,
W.I.T.C.H., here?
668
00:37:09,488 --> 00:37:10,837
The initials W.I.T.C.H.
stand for
669
00:37:10,967 --> 00:37:14,101
the Women's International
Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell.
670
00:37:14,232 --> 00:37:16,277
It strides along with
the Women's Liberation Movement.
671
00:37:16,408 --> 00:37:20,499
Woman: Witches materialize at
demonstrations just to harass.
672
00:37:20,629 --> 00:37:22,718
Berger:
This was political theater,
673
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:26,287
but they started to get out
the word "witch."
674
00:37:28,898 --> 00:37:31,771
Why did they take witch?
It's sort of in your face.
675
00:37:31,901 --> 00:37:33,381
And for many of these women,
676
00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:36,863
in your face
was exactly what they wanted.
677
00:37:36,993 --> 00:37:40,867
Women are reclaiming names
that have been used against them
678
00:37:40,997 --> 00:37:42,564
and they're saying,
679
00:37:42,695 --> 00:37:47,352
"Yes, that's who we are
and we're proud of it."
680
00:37:47,482 --> 00:37:51,225
Grossman:
You have these women
681
00:37:51,356 --> 00:37:54,750
who kind of braid together
the politics of the time
682
00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:57,187
and the spirituality of Wicca.
683
00:37:57,318 --> 00:37:59,973
There starts to be
a feminist witchcraft.
684
00:38:00,103 --> 00:38:03,324
Zsuzanna Budapest,
who's in California --
685
00:38:03,455 --> 00:38:05,935
she changes it,
makes it feminist,
686
00:38:06,066 --> 00:38:09,591
only the goddess,
only the high priestess.
687
00:38:09,722 --> 00:38:15,162
You have an NPR journalist
named Margot Adler,
688
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:17,512
and she's so entranced
by these groups
689
00:38:17,643 --> 00:38:20,123
and moved by these groups
that she ends up
690
00:38:20,254 --> 00:38:24,127
becoming a Wiccan
high priestess herself.
691
00:38:24,258 --> 00:38:27,653
They're showing that
our spirituality is political,
692
00:38:27,783 --> 00:38:31,787
that the stories we tell,
the rituals that we develop,
693
00:38:31,918 --> 00:38:37,619
the spells we cast,
that they are fluid,
694
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:42,015
and that if we so choose,
we can elevate the feminine
695
00:38:42,145 --> 00:38:47,020
and kind of remake
our own spiritual systems
696
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:52,939
into systems that serve us
and honor marginalized people
697
00:38:53,069 --> 00:38:57,465
who often get dishonored
or pushed aside
698
00:38:57,596 --> 00:39:01,469
in a lot of the world's
largest religions.
699
00:39:06,431 --> 00:39:11,044
♪
700
00:39:11,174 --> 00:39:15,178
Grossman: So if you look
at images of witches,
701
00:39:15,309 --> 00:39:18,660
they're often shown
riding broomsticks.
702
00:39:18,791 --> 00:39:23,056
They're also sometimes shown
riding cooking forks
703
00:39:23,186 --> 00:39:27,408
or any simple domestic object
they can fly.
704
00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:35,851
In the '70s,
a writer named Michael Harner
705
00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:39,289
put forth this theory
that perhaps the reason
706
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:43,119
that we associate witches
and broomsticks
707
00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:48,037
is that these women were taking
these hallucinogenic herbs,
708
00:39:48,168 --> 00:39:51,301
rubbing them on the heads
of broomsticks
709
00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:55,828
and then inserting them
into their orifice
710
00:39:55,958 --> 00:40:00,528
in order to get that
contact high all the quicker.
711
00:40:00,659 --> 00:40:02,835
As you can imagine,
a lot of people love this idea
712
00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:05,664
and have really gotten
carried away with the idea
713
00:40:05,794 --> 00:40:07,317
that witches were just,
you know, ladies
714
00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:10,886
who were masturbating
with hallucinogenic dildos.
715
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:19,373
Narrator: We are done being
defined and defamed.
716
00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:25,074
We are the only ones
who can call ourselves witch.
717
00:40:27,337 --> 00:40:31,820
A witch is someone who stands
on her own and who's powerful
718
00:40:31,951 --> 00:40:37,478
and who the status quo
is afraid of.
719
00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:43,266
Witchcraft is growing in appeal,
especially now, I believe,
720
00:40:43,397 --> 00:40:47,706
because that it is
all about empowerment.
721
00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:51,057
I absolutely adore Rachel True
in "The Craft."
722
00:40:51,187 --> 00:40:54,452
So many of us didn't get to see
a Black witch
723
00:40:54,582 --> 00:40:56,323
until we saw her face.
724
00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:59,935
In 1986, most witches were in
725
00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:02,547
what they call the broom closet.
726
00:41:02,677 --> 00:41:05,898
What we saw in the 1990s --
727
00:41:06,028 --> 00:41:09,336
"Charmed,"
the "Harry Potter" series --
728
00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:13,122
and directly after that there
was an increase of searches
729
00:41:13,253 --> 00:41:15,385
about witchcraft online.
730
00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:20,347
Along comes the Internet,
and you have people
731
00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:25,352
who are emboldened to start
sharing who they actually are,
732
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:28,181
and it's really helped
to destigmatize
733
00:41:28,311 --> 00:41:29,965
the practice of witchcraft
734
00:41:30,096 --> 00:41:33,621
and to show us
that there are others like us,
735
00:41:33,752 --> 00:41:35,536
and that there's
a whole community out there
736
00:41:35,667 --> 00:41:38,408
that we can connect to
and plug into.
737
00:41:38,539 --> 00:41:41,803
And absolutely,
witches can be any gender.
738
00:41:41,934 --> 00:41:44,066
Is there a difference between
the masculine and the feminine?
739
00:41:44,197 --> 00:41:45,807
Absolutely.
740
00:41:45,938 --> 00:41:46,895
Is there a mixture
of the non-binary magic
741
00:41:47,026 --> 00:41:48,375
or non-conforming magic?
742
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:50,203
Absolutely, for sure.
743
00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:53,467
Because we have TikTok,
we have WitchTok.
744
00:41:53,598 --> 00:41:58,037
What you see is this growth
of individuation.
745
00:41:58,167 --> 00:42:00,822
I think they're serious
about their witchcraft.
746
00:42:00,953 --> 00:42:03,825
They're serious
about their practice.
747
00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:06,219
And I think it's very easy
to discount the young,
748
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:07,916
but I think it's an error.
749
00:42:08,047 --> 00:42:12,007
♪
750
00:42:12,138 --> 00:42:15,228
Grossman: The witch knows
that this is her time,
751
00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:20,015
and the witch knows
that she can truly help
752
00:42:20,146 --> 00:42:24,150
elevate humanity.
753
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,196
Narrator: The world will see
what they wish to see,
754
00:42:27,327 --> 00:42:31,026
and we remain all them witches.
755
00:42:31,157 --> 00:42:32,593
We.
756
00:42:32,724 --> 00:42:36,771
♪
757
00:42:36,902 --> 00:42:41,733
♪ The circle is open,
yet unbroken ♪
758
00:42:41,863 --> 00:42:47,086
♪ May the peace of the goddess
be ever in our hearts ♪
759
00:42:47,216 --> 00:42:51,569
♪ Merry meet and merry part
760
00:42:51,699 --> 00:42:56,443
♪ And merry meet again
761
00:42:58,750 --> 00:43:05,757
♪
762
00:43:05,887 --> 00:43:13,199
♪
763
00:43:13,329 --> 00:43:20,598
♪
764
00:43:20,728 --> 00:43:27,648
♪
765
00:43:29,258 --> 00:43:33,219
♪
766
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:34,873
Younger woman:
Do you know this place?
767
00:43:35,003 --> 00:43:36,483
Older woman: It's the old
Mayfair house.
768
00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:38,224
Younger woman: What do you
know about it?
769
00:43:38,354 --> 00:43:40,574
Older woman: Murders,
disappearances.
770
00:43:40,705 --> 00:43:43,795
But really, that house is famous
for its witches.
771
00:43:43,925 --> 00:43:45,231
What?
772
00:43:45,361 --> 00:43:47,581
♪ In darkness
773
00:43:47,712 --> 00:43:48,887
Tell me about
Daniel Lemle.
774
00:43:49,017 --> 00:43:51,237
His death had nothing
to do with me.
775
00:43:51,367 --> 00:43:53,152
But you were there.
776
00:43:53,282 --> 00:43:57,069
I don't understand anything
that's happening.
777
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,246
Man: The Talamasca exist to
investigate the, um,
778
00:44:00,376 --> 00:44:01,943
unexplained.
779
00:44:02,074 --> 00:44:04,119
We're assigned to observe
the Mayfairs.
780
00:44:04,250 --> 00:44:07,253
Your gift is the strongest thing
I've ever felt.
781
00:44:07,383 --> 00:44:10,082
Do all the Mayfairs have...
"gifts"?
782
00:44:10,212 --> 00:44:12,693
There is something --
a being --
783
00:44:12,824 --> 00:44:15,391
he's connected
with your family.
784
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:21,049
Man: He can take
different forms.
785
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:24,966
♪
786
00:44:25,097 --> 00:44:26,838
He might start to visit you.
787
00:44:26,968 --> 00:44:32,670
♪
788
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,458
♪
789
00:44:38,588 --> 00:44:41,374
♪ You're my lucky charm
790
00:44:41,504 --> 00:44:44,290
Woman:
The devil comes in many forms.
791
00:44:46,031 --> 00:44:50,209
Woman: Redeem her soul from
evil, o, Lord!
792
00:44:51,993 --> 00:44:54,430
Man: Here's the power
that's rightly yours.
793
00:44:54,561 --> 00:44:59,871
♪
794
00:45:00,001 --> 00:45:01,394
Are you frightened
of you?
795
00:45:01,524 --> 00:45:02,917
Shouldn't I be?
796
00:45:04,876 --> 00:45:06,704
He serves you,
not the other way around.
797
00:45:06,834 --> 00:45:11,883
♪
798
00:45:12,013 --> 00:45:14,668
Man: You know you're special,
don't you?
799
00:45:14,799 --> 00:45:17,149
Can you feel it?
800
00:45:17,279 --> 00:45:23,372
♪
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