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I became a detective because
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I thought maybe I could
make some sort of difference.
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Cold cases, the missing,
the unidentified,
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they tend to fall through
the cracks.
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The Lady of the Dunes case
was one of the reasons
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I wanted to come down here.
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When I got the case,
I went to the grave
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and I promised her that
I'd get her name back
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and get her back to her family.
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It was the
most high-profile case
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I had ever had the opportunity
to investigate.
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And I ended up losing
my career as a result of this.
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This is the first time that
I've spoken completely on camera
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about my role
in the investigation.
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The fact that someone
had remained unidentified
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all that time is so tragic.
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It was a daunting task.
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I would work on this case
on my days off.
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Ultimately I was told,
"Just leave it alone."
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I knew all along that
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there could be
some serious repercussions.
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But I just kept going.
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You're trying to tie
one hand behind my back
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but, basically, [bleep] you.
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I'm not stopping.
I owe it to her.
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This is a legendary case.
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It really was mythical,
urban-legend-like.
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It's an enduring mystery
that has frustrated...
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The oldest unidentified
homicide victim
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in Massachusetts.
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It was a brutal crime
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in the dunes of Provincetown
in 1974.
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She was known as
the Lady of the Dunes.
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Her name, a mystery.
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It became more
than just a story.
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It became kind of like folklore.
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Her head was crushed
and nearly decapitated.
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Her hands cut off.
- Who was this woman?
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Who was the killer?
What happened?
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And why?
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Their take was that this person
was taunting the police.
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No small community anywhere is
prepared for that kind of thing.
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Somewhere out there,
there's a family
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who's got to be missing
this young lady.
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Over the decades,
there have been many theories
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about what could have happened
to her.
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A bank robber who'd escaped
from a regional jail.
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Could she have known too much?
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Could this have been a mob hit?
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The theories just went on
and on and on.
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This is beyond grisly
and beyond disturbing.
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It really, really
rattled the community.
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Days turned to weeks, weeks
to months, months to years.
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Former detectives say
evidence was thrown away
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and contaminated.
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I just always thought of it
as an unbelievable ghost story
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that probably would
never be solved.
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You can't help
but bond with this person
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and feel like their soul is
in your hands.
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I got a call about a woman
who went missing in 1973.
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Young girl, running guns, drugs,
crisscrossing the country,
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trying to shoot police officers.
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Honest to God,
you can't make this up.
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It's like out of a movie.
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I remember this area.
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This is very familiar.
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All of us kids would just
come out here and run around
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and look for driftwood
and animal tracks
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and just hang out and explore.
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We came to Provincetown
in the summers.
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Our family friends used to rent
this dune shack every summer.
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And all of the families would
converge here during that week
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and swim and party.
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I remember it was
a beautiful day.
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It was sunny.
My parents and my sister
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spent the day swimming,
and then they were walking back.
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The people
that had rented the dune shack,
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they had a couple of dogs.
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And the dog veered off and
started barking at something.
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So my sister followed the dog.
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The dog turned around here
to this clump of scrub pines
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and that's
when she saw the body.
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When my parents tell the story,
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my mother used to say
that she heard my sister go,
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"Mom, Dad" and that
there was something in the tone
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of her voice that
really frightened my mother.
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And she said she grabbed
my father's arm and she said,
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"I'm not going.
Lenny, you go look."
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It was a woman and she was
laying on her folded clothes.
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Like she could've
been sunbathing.
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They took the jeep
and went to the ranger station
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and reported it to the rangers.
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She was laying down, facedown,
on half of a beach towel.
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Had dungarees and a kerchief
she used as a pillow, sort of.
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Reddish brown,
auburn hair, 5'6".
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The body was nude
when she was found.
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They weren't sure how long she
had been there, up to two weeks.
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It was July. It was hot.
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They didn't even want to get
close to the body.
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It was that bad.
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Her skull was crushed.
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Her head was nearly decapitated.
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Her hands were cut off.
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Someone clearly wanted to hide
her identity.
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This looked like someone who
had perhaps done this before.
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This was one of
the most publicized
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and notorious unresolved
homicides in New England.
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It's a beautiful location
contrasted
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with the brutal murder
of an unknown young woman.
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Here's a grave,
an unidentified female.
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Police weren't just searching
for a killer.
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They were trying
to find out who this woman was.
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We've been spending summers
on the dunes
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since 1956 as a family.
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We had gone to town
to pick up some groceries.
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And they waved us down.
They seemed very agitated.
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Everybody was shouting
at one time.
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And they said, "We found a body,
we found a body."
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After the body was found,
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I think the whole town became
a little more spooked.
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Who knows who's lurking
in the dunes?
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It really, really
rattled the community.
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They would lock the windows,
lock the doors,
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be a little suspect
of strangers.
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It was sort of like
a town-wide game of Clue.
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I spent a great deal of time
in Provincetown
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when I was an adolescent.
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It was just a wonderful,
exotic place.
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This is not a pejorative word
here,
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but you just have a lot
of weirdos.
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And the town encourages that.
It welcomes it in.
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You have the artists, you have
the gay and lesbian community.
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The town would have
been crawling with hippies.
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Back in the '70s,
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our year-round population was
probably about 2,500.
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In the summertime,
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that number would swell
to 100,000 no problem.
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I worked for the Provincetown
police department for 35 years.
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In 1974, started when I was 17.
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Working summers
as a summer patrolman.
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It was known as Helltown.
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The bikers would take
over one bar.
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Across Commercial Street,
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the fishermen would be
in another bar,
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and they would be bumping heads.
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All the time.
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We would go all night long
from fight to fight to fight.
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I would go home every night,
bloodied, torn uniform.
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Anything goes.
Drugs, alcohol, you name it.
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It was allowed.
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I shouldn't say it was allowed.
It went on.
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But something like this
was just huge news.
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That something of that magnitude
could happen in our town.
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The first step was
to identify her.
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And we reached out
to the community.
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Because the community is
so small.
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Everybody knows everybody.
Word was out.
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Nobody was missing anybody
from their family.
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We knew immediately
it was nobody local.
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As the days and weeks
and months went by,
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we could find no more
information about this woman.
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So the community gave her
a name.
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The Lady of the Dunes was
a term that the locals used.
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I'm not sure
that my father was the one
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that came up with it. In fact,
I'm pretty sure he wasn't.
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Based on the proximity
to the dune shacks,
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the location of that area of
where her body was positioned,
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the perpetrator
most likely was very familiar
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with that area in the dunes.
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At the time, in order
to get out to the dune trails,
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there was a shack
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that was manned
by the National Park Rangers.
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And when you would pull up
to the booth,
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they would write down
every plate number
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and the name of the operator who
was going out onto the dunes.
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The shack isn't manned
24 hours a day.
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Anybody who's familiar
with driving
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out there would know that.
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It would appear
that this type of murder,
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he probably murdered prior
or has murdered since.
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This was not a crime of passion.
This was premeditated.
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There was definitely
a sense of unease around town.
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We were wondering if somebody
in the community was a murderer.
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That had happened before.
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Five years before the Lady
of the Dunes was discovered,
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there was a serial killer in
Provincetown named Tony Costa.
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This was the first grave
that was found.
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And after probing, we found the
remains of an unidentified girl.
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There are indications
that there are teeth marks
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on some of these parts
of these dismembered bodies.
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Tony Costa was known as "Tony
Chop Chop" due to his crimes.
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That particular case
occurred actually in Truro,
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the next town over.
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There were similarities
with Tony Costa,
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and now we have another
murdered young woman.
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These women who were murdered
were all visitors.
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Nobody in town
suddenly was like,
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"Hey, where did so and so go?"
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The age of
the decomposed bodies
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may go back beyond six months,
eight months, nine months.
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We don't know what took place
during that time,
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and at least 2,000 or 3,000
missing females
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in the United States
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and we don't know how many may
be buried in the Truro woods.
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It was incredibly disturbing
to the town and upsetting,
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and when something that dark
happens again,
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you start to wonder if this
isn't becoming a new normal.
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The Tony Costa thing was
fresh in everybody's mind.
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Everybody in town
was concerned and afraid
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that there was
a serial killer around.
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Tony Costa had been
charged with
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killing several women in Truro.
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But Tony Costa had died by what
was determined to be suicide
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in prison...
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...prior to the Lady of
the Dunes being found.
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I was 12 years old at the time
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that the woman in the dunes
was found.
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It's something
that I'll never forget.
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One thing that sticks out
in my mind
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was me going to the police
station to visit my dad.
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The police station was
underneath Town Hall.
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You walked down a set of stairs.
When you walked in,
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there was a small room.
To the left was his office.
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As you walked into his office,
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his desk was right
in front of me.
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There was paneled walls
on either side and photographs.
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A gruesome display of her hands
chopped off, her skull caved in.
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I remember the skull
laying on his desk.
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The whole thing was
pretty disturbing.
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Chief Meads worked
tirelessly on this case.
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In the very beginning,
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Chief Meads ran down
every possible lead, hoping
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something would jump out.
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He believed
if we could identify her,
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it would immediately take us
to her killer.
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Canvassed the entire area.
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We used metal detectors, brought
in the park police bloodhounds,
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canvassed the area for the hands
and made a complete search.
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He always had something
that he was looking at.
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Our own men went through
every motel,
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hotel, campground looking for
some articles of clothing
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perhaps that
some young lady had left behind.
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In the '70s there was no DNA.
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The most advanced
forensic tools available
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would have been blood typing,
fingerprints, photographs.
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When those leads didn't
pan out,
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he tried to identify her
through dental records.
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Chief Meads turned
to the dental records
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because the teeth
that were in her skull
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contained a large sum of money
invested in gold fillings.
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And it was done in what's called
the New York style of dentistry.
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You know, you can draw
a lot of conclusions
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about the dental work.
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The gold in this young lady's
head
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is valued today at $7,000
to $10,000.
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So Chief Meads contacted
the American Dental Association
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to see if any dentists out there
recognize these charts.
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He contacted every state
in the country.
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As many dentists as he could.
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You would think or hope
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that someone would
have looked at that
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and said, "Yes,
I know who that is.
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I worked on her."
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I believe it haunted my dad
because he really felt
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like he wanted to give
this woman a name
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and give her family
some closure.
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He was personally responsible
for having her buried
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in the Catholic cemetery.
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The Catholic church,
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they were a little hesitant
to let him do that
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because they didn't know
if she was a Catholic or not
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but he had some connections
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and he was able to get
them to allow her
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to be buried in the cemetery.
The good part about that
275
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was they were able to have
her right there
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if they ever had to exhume her.
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Every cop wants to solve
every crime,
278
00:17:55,638 --> 00:18:00,251
but this really struck
a note with Chief Meads.
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He worked on the case
all the time.
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He was determined about it.
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This was always a Provincetown
case from its inception.
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In the beginning,
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the state police worked
the case with Chief Meads.
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As the years went on, the
state police input dissipated.
285
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When Chief Meads was
interviewed, you know,
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"Why are you putting so much
time and effort into this case?"
287
00:18:29,150 --> 00:18:33,284
And he said, "You have no
business being a police officer
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if you can't demonstrate
the duty of care,
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you owe to your victim
and to their family."
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As a police chief,
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my father was haunted
by the fact
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that the woman didn't have
an identity.
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And I think the biggest thing
with the case
294
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was he wanted to put a name
to her and then in turn
295
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that would help him solve
the case.
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As a teenager,
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I was given this bag
as a Christmas gift
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or a birthday gift, and
then all of a sudden, one day,
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00:19:16,458 --> 00:19:20,244
my father asked me
if he could use the bag.
300
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He would put the skull in it,
301
00:19:22,377 --> 00:19:25,901
kept it in his possession
all the time,
302
00:19:25,902 --> 00:19:29,340
and took it from one place
to the other.
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00:19:29,341 --> 00:19:31,777
Chief Meads' next step was
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to get a clay reconstruction
done of her skull.
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00:19:36,739 --> 00:19:41,308
He had the skull brought to
have clay restructure the face,
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00:19:41,309 --> 00:19:43,747
the bones,
to come up with a picture.
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00:19:45,793 --> 00:19:48,707
She's described as 5'6"
to 5'8",
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about 140 pounds, athletic
build, long, reddish brown hair.
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They sought information
from the public
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based on those composites,
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if anyone could make
an identification.
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00:20:03,157 --> 00:20:06,290
Chief Meads went to the media
with it everywhere
313
00:20:06,291 --> 00:20:08,988
and every possible way he could.
314
00:20:08,989 --> 00:20:12,252
The hope was that
somebody would recognize her.
315
00:20:12,253 --> 00:20:14,385
The chief has had hundreds
of leads,
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00:20:14,386 --> 00:20:17,910
hundreds of letters
and hundreds of disappointments.
317
00:20:17,911 --> 00:20:19,738
I often thought
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somebody out there
is missing a family member.
319
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Why are we not hearing about it?
320
00:20:29,619 --> 00:20:31,271
Through the course
of the investigation,
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00:20:31,272 --> 00:20:34,753
they found a good five or
six women who were still alive
322
00:20:34,754 --> 00:20:36,668
and did not want to be found.
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Like, "Yeah, I hate my family.
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I disappeared.
Like, leave me alone."
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Provincetown at that time
was full of people
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who were escaping things.
327
00:20:50,596 --> 00:20:52,161
I think there was always
kind of a thought like,
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00:20:52,162 --> 00:20:53,293
could she have been a criminal?
329
00:20:53,294 --> 00:20:54,731
Was she on the run?
330
00:20:57,604 --> 00:21:03,260
When the body was first found,
the hands were missing.
331
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The only logical reason
332
00:21:05,698 --> 00:21:08,439
to cut off the Lady
in the Dunes' hands
333
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,789
is to prevent
her identification.
334
00:21:10,790 --> 00:21:14,271
Back in the '70s,
you have to ask yourself,
335
00:21:14,272 --> 00:21:15,620
who got fingerprinted?
336
00:21:15,621 --> 00:21:20,581
Military, federal employees, criminals.
337
00:21:20,582 --> 00:21:25,630
We arrested many fugitives
of justice
338
00:21:25,631 --> 00:21:28,633
because they could get lost
in the crowds.
339
00:21:28,634 --> 00:21:31,549
They could come here
and disappear.
340
00:21:31,550 --> 00:21:33,725
He was just trying everything
he could
341
00:21:33,726 --> 00:21:36,468
in his power
to come up with a solution.
342
00:21:40,995 --> 00:21:42,516
The body of work
343
00:21:42,517 --> 00:21:46,651
that Chief Meads left behind
was voluminous,
344
00:21:46,652 --> 00:21:53,092
it was detailed,
and it was ruthless in the way
345
00:21:53,093 --> 00:21:56,487
he hunted down every lead.
346
00:21:56,488 --> 00:21:59,359
His only wish was
to find out who she was.
347
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:01,666
And he took offense to the fact
348
00:22:01,667 --> 00:22:03,929
that somebody did something
in his town.
349
00:22:03,930 --> 00:22:06,018
The lawman obsessed
by his search.
350
00:22:06,019 --> 00:22:07,628
Police Chief Jim Meads'
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00:22:07,629 --> 00:22:10,677
investigation has become
his obsession.
352
00:22:21,122 --> 00:22:23,209
As time progressed,
353
00:22:23,210 --> 00:22:25,907
we didn't see Dad as much
as we had in the past
354
00:22:25,908 --> 00:22:28,432
because he was buried
in his work.
355
00:22:28,433 --> 00:22:32,915
As time goes on,
my hopes diminish.
356
00:22:41,272 --> 00:22:42,750
This was the biggest case
357
00:22:42,751 --> 00:22:45,755
that he had in his tenure
as police chief.
358
00:22:47,714 --> 00:22:50,758
Chief Meads had it right
when he said
359
00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:55,546
our goal here is to identify her
and get her her name back.
360
00:22:55,547 --> 00:22:59,160
That was adopted
by Chief Tobias.
361
00:23:03,164 --> 00:23:05,294
I became detective
and I asked him
362
00:23:05,295 --> 00:23:08,080
if I could take over the case.
363
00:23:08,081 --> 00:23:10,125
He had to kind of ease
my way in there.
364
00:23:10,126 --> 00:23:14,828
I mean, that was really
his personal property.
365
00:23:17,308 --> 00:23:20,964
This was his baby, and
he was reluctant to let it go.
366
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,623
I would go through that case
file time and time again.
367
00:23:29,624 --> 00:23:31,756
This was not just
a random act of violence
368
00:23:31,757 --> 00:23:34,193
that the person would
have just been left there
369
00:23:34,194 --> 00:23:36,456
if she'd been killed
on the spot just randomly.
370
00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:43,596
This person set this body up to
taunt the police, if you will.
371
00:23:47,643 --> 00:23:49,861
When I took over the case
from Chief Meads,
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00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:52,733
I was starting from scratch.
373
00:23:52,734 --> 00:23:57,346
That case folder was
at least three feet thick.
374
00:23:57,347 --> 00:24:01,220
At least a thousand pages
of documents, reports,
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00:24:01,221 --> 00:24:06,878
magazines, news articles,
notes from Chief Meads.
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00:24:06,879 --> 00:24:09,663
I read that case folder
so many times,
377
00:24:09,664 --> 00:24:11,537
hoping something would jump out.
378
00:24:13,408 --> 00:24:15,452
But, at that point in time,
379
00:24:15,453 --> 00:24:20,457
I had a new investigative tool
that Chief Meads did not have.
380
00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:22,197
That was a whole
different ballgame.
381
00:24:22,198 --> 00:24:24,983
Controversial technique known
as DNA fingerprinting.
382
00:24:24,984 --> 00:24:27,812
Putting more
and more criminals behind bars.
383
00:24:27,813 --> 00:24:30,815
It's the latest
in high-tech crime solving.
384
00:24:30,816 --> 00:24:33,208
Virtually any trace
of human contact left
385
00:24:33,209 --> 00:24:35,689
at the scene of a crime
can now be analyzed,
386
00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:38,692
tested, and retested
to reveal a person's
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00:24:38,693 --> 00:24:40,740
smallest genetic makeup.
388
00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:47,527
DNA was just beginning
to be used in cases.
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00:24:47,528 --> 00:24:50,051
According
to Provincetown Police,
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00:24:50,052 --> 00:24:54,316
they went to go get the physical
evidence from the crime scene
391
00:24:54,317 --> 00:24:56,277
because they wanted to test it.
392
00:24:57,365 --> 00:24:58,973
I knew the State Police
393
00:24:58,974 --> 00:25:02,237
and the district attorney's
office held the evidence.
394
00:25:02,238 --> 00:25:06,156
They had the towel,
the jeans, her hair.
395
00:25:07,941 --> 00:25:11,899
That physical evidence
could very well have DNA on it,
396
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:14,380
not only the DNA
of the perpetrator,
397
00:25:14,381 --> 00:25:17,731
but the DNA of the victim.
398
00:25:17,732 --> 00:25:21,302
I made arrangements
to go get the evidence.
399
00:25:23,043 --> 00:25:25,913
When I got to
the state police barracks,
400
00:25:25,914 --> 00:25:27,915
they gave me a sheet of paper.
401
00:25:27,916 --> 00:25:33,618
It was a report saying that they
had thrown away the evidence.
402
00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:41,102
I was shocked.
403
00:25:41,103 --> 00:25:47,239
Why in the world would
you throw away the evidence
404
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,808
to an unsolved murder?
405
00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:55,769
The case was only 15 years old.
406
00:25:55,770 --> 00:25:58,032
The reason
they had gotten rid of it
407
00:25:58,033 --> 00:26:03,995
was they had a storage locker
and they needed more room.
408
00:26:03,996 --> 00:26:07,477
So there goes my source of DNA
for the Lady in the Dunes.
409
00:26:16,313 --> 00:26:21,316
This was devastating
to the investigation.
410
00:26:21,317 --> 00:26:25,886
I kept my mouth shut about this
for 30 years.
411
00:26:25,887 --> 00:26:31,805
I didn't want to publicly
412
00:26:31,806 --> 00:26:34,634
damage the reputation
413
00:26:34,635 --> 00:26:36,682
of law enforcement.
414
00:26:45,386 --> 00:26:48,039
And then I had gotten
a lead about a fugitive
415
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,913
who had escaped
and had disappeared.
416
00:26:55,352 --> 00:26:57,483
I got a call from
the Pembroke Police Department.
417
00:26:57,484 --> 00:26:59,224
One of their investigators
418
00:26:59,225 --> 00:27:01,226
had seen a story
on the Lady of the Dunes,
419
00:27:01,227 --> 00:27:06,840
and he had a theory about a
woman who went missing in 1973.
420
00:27:06,841 --> 00:27:09,190
Rory Gene Kesinger.
421
00:27:09,191 --> 00:27:12,541
Her story really is
a crazy story unto itself.
422
00:27:12,542 --> 00:27:17,546
Young girl, running guns, drugs,
crisscrossing the country,
423
00:27:17,547 --> 00:27:19,984
trying to shoot police officers.
424
00:27:19,985 --> 00:27:22,857
It's almost like Bonnie
and Clyde without Clyde.
425
00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:29,863
Rory was living just off-Cape.
426
00:27:29,864 --> 00:27:32,387
The police department there
did a raid one night
427
00:27:32,388 --> 00:27:34,433
on her apartment.
428
00:27:34,434 --> 00:27:39,481
When they raided it, she tried
to shoot one of the officers.
429
00:27:39,482 --> 00:27:43,050
She came in from the front
bedroom with a gun in her hand
430
00:27:43,051 --> 00:27:45,183
and very politely said,
431
00:27:45,184 --> 00:27:47,576
"I'm sorry, Officer,
but I have to kill you."
432
00:27:47,577 --> 00:27:51,276
Pushed the weapon that she
had to the side, handcuffed her.
433
00:27:51,277 --> 00:27:54,235
We found a number of guns.
We found a lot of money.
434
00:27:54,236 --> 00:27:57,499
It was probably the biggest
drug raid in Plymouth County.
435
00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:01,286
She ended up in the Plymouth
House of Correction.
436
00:28:01,287 --> 00:28:03,027
Honest to God,
you can't make this up,
437
00:28:03,028 --> 00:28:04,942
It's like out of a movie.
438
00:28:04,943 --> 00:28:07,727
Kesinger hacksawed her way
through these bars,
439
00:28:07,728 --> 00:28:11,428
slipped out this window,
and was never heard from again.
440
00:28:14,649 --> 00:28:19,086
The timing was perfect for
her to be the Lady in the Dunes
441
00:28:19,087 --> 00:28:22,352
'cause it happened before
the Lady in the Dunes was found.
442
00:28:23,745 --> 00:28:26,441
She fit the description
physically.
443
00:28:26,442 --> 00:28:28,269
She was a criminal,
444
00:28:28,270 --> 00:28:30,054
which fit one
of the three possibilities of
445
00:28:30,055 --> 00:28:32,491
why you would remove the hands.
446
00:28:32,492 --> 00:28:36,582
But the only way
to confirm that she was a match
447
00:28:36,583 --> 00:28:40,936
for the Lady of the Dunes
was through DNA.
448
00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:49,813
Rory Gene Kesinger
absolutely changed the course
449
00:28:49,814 --> 00:28:52,641
of my investigation
450
00:28:52,642 --> 00:28:58,517
because now I was focused
on this one individual.
451
00:28:58,518 --> 00:29:01,346
But unfortunately the evidence
that had been
452
00:29:01,347 --> 00:29:05,264
found at the scene,
that had been thrown away.
453
00:29:10,052 --> 00:29:13,358
Chief Tobias sent the skull
of the Lady of the Dunes
454
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:17,188
to attempt to extract DNA
for a profile.
455
00:29:17,189 --> 00:29:19,190
At that point in time, Cellmark
456
00:29:19,191 --> 00:29:22,715
was like the premier
DNA company.
457
00:29:22,716 --> 00:29:24,195
So we sent the samples there.
458
00:29:24,196 --> 00:29:27,067
DNA fingerprinting
by Cellmark Diagnostics.
459
00:29:27,068 --> 00:29:30,723
With virtually 100% accuracy,
researchers can now link
460
00:29:30,724 --> 00:29:33,378
a drop of blood found
at a crime scene.
461
00:29:33,379 --> 00:29:38,078
DNA was new, and it
wasn't 100% guaranteed.
462
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:40,298
But I was hopeful.
463
00:29:40,299 --> 00:29:42,561
If I can get DNA from the body
464
00:29:42,562 --> 00:29:46,739
and then find a family member
from Rory Gene Kesinger,
465
00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:48,351
this could solve the case.
466
00:29:51,398 --> 00:29:57,141
But, unfortunately, Cellmark
was ultimately unable to extract
467
00:29:57,142 --> 00:30:01,885
enough DNA to get a profile.
468
00:30:01,886 --> 00:30:04,583
It was a dead end.
469
00:30:04,584 --> 00:30:07,892
That was so depressing.
470
00:30:14,029 --> 00:30:19,076
At this point,
the case is about 25 years old.
471
00:30:19,077 --> 00:30:22,429
And Dr. Bruce Jackson
had come into the picture.
472
00:30:24,126 --> 00:30:26,300
Dr. Bruce Jackson worked
473
00:30:26,301 --> 00:30:29,869
with the federal government
identifying soldiers' remains
474
00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:31,349
brought back from Vietnam.
475
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:34,743
I mean, this guy knew his stuff.
476
00:30:34,744 --> 00:30:40,880
Dr. Jackson volunteered
his time, his lab, his money.
477
00:30:40,881 --> 00:30:46,190
So, what is my next avenue
for DNA?
478
00:30:46,191 --> 00:30:48,194
I needed to exhume the body.
479
00:30:49,673 --> 00:30:53,980
The samples were sent
to Dr. Jackson.
480
00:30:53,981 --> 00:30:56,941
And he was able to get
a good sample.
481
00:31:01,642 --> 00:31:04,208
It was a godsend.
482
00:31:04,209 --> 00:31:06,819
Now that we have a sample,
we can see
483
00:31:06,820 --> 00:31:10,170
if Rory Gene Kesinger was
the Lady of the Dunes.
484
00:31:10,171 --> 00:31:13,043
Tracking down her family
was very difficult
485
00:31:13,044 --> 00:31:15,654
because of the amount of time
that had passed.
486
00:31:15,655 --> 00:31:18,657
But I did eventually find
the mother.
487
00:31:18,658 --> 00:31:21,965
I'd had a gut feeling this was
gonna be it from the first time
488
00:31:21,966 --> 00:31:24,054
I heard about
Rory Gene Kesinger.
489
00:31:24,055 --> 00:31:28,841
So now I could test her DNA
against the DNA
490
00:31:28,842 --> 00:31:31,496
from the Lady of the Dunes.
491
00:31:31,497 --> 00:31:34,196
This was huge.
This could solve the case.
492
00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:40,941
But it was not
Rory Gene Kesinger.
493
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,818
I was devastated.
494
00:31:49,819 --> 00:31:54,173
I had 10 years' worth
of work on Rory Kesinger.
495
00:31:56,479 --> 00:32:01,743
I remember looking at that huge
file and thinking to myself,
496
00:32:01,744 --> 00:32:03,094
"I'm back at square one."
497
00:32:09,492 --> 00:32:11,971
You know, it's a haunting
ghost story.
498
00:32:11,972 --> 00:32:14,495
Over the decades,
there have been many theories
499
00:32:14,496 --> 00:32:18,282
about who she was,
what could have happened to her.
500
00:32:18,283 --> 00:32:20,545
It very quickly goes in
these wild directions
501
00:32:20,546 --> 00:32:24,418
of satanic cults
and biker gangs, UFOs,
502
00:32:24,419 --> 00:32:26,899
actual ghosts in the dunes.
503
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,554
Infamous mob boss
Whitey Bulger spent lots of time
504
00:32:29,555 --> 00:32:34,820
in Provincetown,
and this looked like a mob hit.
505
00:32:34,821 --> 00:32:36,606
Could she have known too much?
506
00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:41,131
But then I got
a phone call from
507
00:32:41,132 --> 00:32:44,047
Montgomery County, Maryland.
508
00:32:44,048 --> 00:32:47,616
A serial killer confessed to
killing the Lady in the Dunes.
509
00:32:57,105 --> 00:32:59,540
Marking soft sticks.
510
00:32:59,541 --> 00:33:01,455
My name is Alec Wilkinson,
511
00:33:01,456 --> 00:33:03,892
and I'm a longtime writer
at "The New Yorker."
512
00:33:03,893 --> 00:33:09,246
I was up on the Cape and I
was talking to a police chief
513
00:33:09,247 --> 00:33:12,337
and I said,
"Anything interesting going on?"
514
00:33:13,817 --> 00:33:16,429
And he said, "I think
I have a serial killer."
515
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:20,084
The murderer's name
was Hadden Clark.
516
00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:27,744
I spent my childhood
on Cape Cod.
517
00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:32,617
My mother made me aware
518
00:33:32,618 --> 00:33:37,056
that I had been in a swimming
class with Hadden Clark.
519
00:33:37,057 --> 00:33:39,450
I really only had
a sort of incomplete memory
520
00:33:39,451 --> 00:33:43,499
of a kind of shivering
little boy.
521
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,895
I got in touch with Hadden
probably 1999, 2000,
522
00:33:49,896 --> 00:33:52,854
because I was so intrigued
by the story
523
00:33:52,855 --> 00:33:55,468
that the Wellfleet
police chief had told me.
524
00:33:57,513 --> 00:33:59,992
Hadden Clark wasn't
the normal sort of killer
525
00:33:59,993 --> 00:34:01,994
you meet in prison.
526
00:34:01,995 --> 00:34:06,172
He was not an imposing
or threatening sort of person.
527
00:34:06,173 --> 00:34:08,522
He had a kind of
hidden sullen side
528
00:34:08,523 --> 00:34:12,309
that was capable
of a real menace.
529
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:15,225
His family was from this area.
530
00:34:15,226 --> 00:34:19,229
He had worked in Provincetown.
531
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:22,667
His diagnosis
is a paranoid schizophrenic.
532
00:34:22,668 --> 00:34:27,846
Clark exhibited narcissistic as
well as sociopathic tendencies.
533
00:34:27,847 --> 00:34:29,892
There was certainly
something wrong with him.
534
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:41,338
Hadden Clark first came
to the attention of our agency,
535
00:34:41,339 --> 00:34:42,426
Montgomery County, Maryland,
536
00:34:42,427 --> 00:34:44,515
in the middle '80s
537
00:34:44,516 --> 00:34:48,780
when the disappearance
of Michele Dorr occurred.
538
00:34:48,781 --> 00:34:51,565
Six-year-old Michele Dorr
mysteriously disappeared
539
00:34:51,566 --> 00:34:54,177
while outside her
Silver Spring home.
540
00:34:54,178 --> 00:34:56,918
Clark at the time
was a neighbor,
541
00:34:56,919 --> 00:34:58,703
lived just a few doors away.
542
00:34:58,704 --> 00:35:01,097
The police questioned
a man known
543
00:35:01,098 --> 00:35:02,752
as the neighborhood oddball.
544
00:35:04,928 --> 00:35:08,932
Then Hadden Clark's name came up
in another investigation.
545
00:35:10,282 --> 00:35:11,716
The friends, family,
546
00:35:11,717 --> 00:35:13,544
and co-workers
of Laura Houghteling
547
00:35:13,545 --> 00:35:15,415
have a mystery on their hands
tonight,
548
00:35:15,416 --> 00:35:16,721
trying to figure
out what happened
549
00:35:16,722 --> 00:35:18,636
to the young Bethesda woman
550
00:35:18,637 --> 00:35:20,594
who appears to have vanished
without a trace.
551
00:35:20,595 --> 00:35:23,467
Police have found traces
of blood in her bedroom
552
00:35:23,468 --> 00:35:26,905
and bloody bedclothes
in a nearby wooded area.
553
00:35:26,906 --> 00:35:30,606
In that blood
was Hadden Clark's fingerprint.
554
00:35:31,825 --> 00:35:35,566
Her mother had hired
Hadden Clark as a handyman.
555
00:35:35,567 --> 00:35:37,220
Clark finally confessed
to the killing
556
00:35:37,221 --> 00:35:39,875
and led police to the young
woman's body in Bethesda.
557
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:50,885
In the late '90s,
558
00:35:50,886 --> 00:35:53,584
information came from
another inmate
559
00:35:53,585 --> 00:35:55,629
in the State Correctional
Facility
560
00:35:55,630 --> 00:35:57,936
who had befriended Clark.
561
00:35:57,937 --> 00:36:01,766
This man had long hair
and a beard, and Hadden said,
562
00:36:01,767 --> 00:36:03,463
"I know who you are. You're
the second coming of Christ.
563
00:36:03,464 --> 00:36:06,074
You're Jesus."
564
00:36:06,075 --> 00:36:09,991
And Hadden would tell Jesus
things about what he had done.
565
00:36:09,992 --> 00:36:12,298
And he said that he'd been
responsible for the death
566
00:36:12,299 --> 00:36:13,997
of the Lady of the Dunes.
567
00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:37,193
Hadden Clark confessed to
killing Lady in the Dunes over
568
00:36:37,194 --> 00:36:38,587
and over and over again.
569
00:36:40,676 --> 00:36:43,590
He eventually would tell us
that he became angry,
570
00:36:43,591 --> 00:36:45,853
attacked the woman,
bludgeoned her,
571
00:36:45,854 --> 00:36:48,639
and removed all her clothing.
572
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,905
He then removed her hands.
573
00:36:58,912 --> 00:37:02,696
Clark's description of what
he did to the Lady of the Dunes,
574
00:37:02,697 --> 00:37:05,787
was consistent
with the crime scene.
575
00:37:09,749 --> 00:37:14,839
Hadden Clark made several
drawings when he was in prison,
576
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:20,105
one of which depicted the victim
in the position she was found,
577
00:37:20,106 --> 00:37:22,325
where her body was found.
578
00:37:22,326 --> 00:37:26,372
And they found,
in his possessions,
579
00:37:26,373 --> 00:37:29,421
tokens from his other crimes.
580
00:37:31,684 --> 00:37:33,553
One of the things
that they found
581
00:37:33,554 --> 00:37:37,124
was a jewelry box filled
with beach sand.
582
00:37:37,951 --> 00:37:43,346
Beach sand, the Lady of the
Dunes was found in the dunes.
583
00:37:43,347 --> 00:37:46,871
Acting on this information
that Clark had provided,
584
00:37:46,872 --> 00:37:50,701
we contact
the Massachusetts State Police.
585
00:37:50,702 --> 00:37:54,400
It was determined it
would be beneficial
586
00:37:54,401 --> 00:37:57,449
to bring Clark out to Cape Cod.
587
00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:02,060
We made arrangements to see
if he could show me
588
00:38:02,061 --> 00:38:06,064
where the body was,
and where her hands were.
589
00:38:06,065 --> 00:38:10,460
Anytime you're dealing
with someone with a diagnosis
590
00:38:10,461 --> 00:38:12,766
of paranoid schizophrenia,
591
00:38:12,767 --> 00:38:15,813
it's certainly worth looking at.
592
00:38:15,814 --> 00:38:18,206
They drive him up
from Maryland.
593
00:38:18,207 --> 00:38:19,556
They had brought Jesus along too
594
00:38:19,557 --> 00:38:22,428
because Jesus is
the Hadden whisperer.
595
00:38:22,429 --> 00:38:24,822
The two of them were
transported
596
00:38:24,823 --> 00:38:29,087
by Montgomery County detectives
as well as FBI personnel.
597
00:38:29,088 --> 00:38:33,310
My supervisor felt that I had an
ability to keep Clark talking.
598
00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:38,401
Hadden had two personalities.
599
00:38:38,402 --> 00:38:43,188
And the second was a woman named
Kristen who was mean and evil.
600
00:38:43,189 --> 00:38:46,017
And remorseless.
601
00:38:46,018 --> 00:38:49,063
On this particular morning,
he was Kristen.
602
00:38:49,064 --> 00:38:52,153
And Kristen wasn't gonna
cooperate
603
00:38:52,154 --> 00:38:56,899
unless she was allowed
to obtain some women's clothing.
604
00:38:58,988 --> 00:39:00,379
And about 10 miles
from Wellfleet,
605
00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:02,860
they go to a department store.
606
00:39:02,861 --> 00:39:05,123
This is 20 years ago.
607
00:39:05,124 --> 00:39:10,433
You know, it was a bold thing
on Hadden's part to ask for it.
608
00:39:10,434 --> 00:39:13,740
We were going the extra mile
on this.
609
00:39:13,741 --> 00:39:16,963
Clark went in.
He picked out various items.
610
00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:23,620
I remember a couple
black SUVs pulling up
611
00:39:23,621 --> 00:39:25,099
in front of the station
over here.
612
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:26,492
And they were late.
613
00:39:26,493 --> 00:39:28,189
And they told me they were late
614
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:33,586
because Hadden Clark kept
attacking the deputies
615
00:39:33,587 --> 00:39:34,935
that were transporting him
616
00:39:34,936 --> 00:39:36,678
'cause he wanted
to drink their blood.
617
00:39:38,506 --> 00:39:40,724
We drive out into the dunes,
618
00:39:40,725 --> 00:39:44,945
accompanied
by Massachusetts State Police.
619
00:39:44,946 --> 00:39:47,687
I rode in the back seat
with Hadden Clark,
620
00:39:47,688 --> 00:39:51,952
and it was the creepiest day
of my life
621
00:39:51,953 --> 00:39:55,304
sitting next to this
known serial killer.
622
00:40:03,139 --> 00:40:07,013
He provided detail about
how the area had changed.
623
00:40:09,929 --> 00:40:15,541
I found Clark's information
to be very compelling.
624
00:40:15,542 --> 00:40:17,456
In working with Clark,
625
00:40:17,457 --> 00:40:20,111
you had to demonstrate
a great deal of patience.
626
00:40:20,112 --> 00:40:26,247
It might take you an hour
or more to get a yes or a no.
627
00:40:26,248 --> 00:40:30,730
He took us almost to what
I would learn to be the location
628
00:40:30,731 --> 00:40:32,299
she was recovered.
629
00:40:34,344 --> 00:40:39,652
But he ultimately was
unable to provide any evidence
630
00:40:39,653 --> 00:40:42,657
or any significant detail
at all.
631
00:40:45,094 --> 00:40:49,575
I think he could manipulate us.
632
00:40:49,576 --> 00:40:50,924
He was out of jail for the day,
633
00:40:50,925 --> 00:40:54,885
got to see Provincetown
and the dunes.
634
00:40:54,886 --> 00:40:57,409
As we worked through
the details provided by Clark,
635
00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:59,716
we know some of that information
636
00:40:59,717 --> 00:41:02,936
was out there
in the public venue.
637
00:41:02,937 --> 00:41:05,591
But I believe there's
still a possibility Clark
638
00:41:05,592 --> 00:41:07,420
may have been responsible
for it.
639
00:41:14,907 --> 00:41:17,429
It was disappointing.
640
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:19,475
Back to square one again.
641
00:41:19,476 --> 00:41:23,304
At some point,
it begins to wear you down,
642
00:41:23,305 --> 00:41:29,136
and you learn to be less hopeful
after dead end after dead end.
643
00:41:29,137 --> 00:41:31,313
You're looking for
the next lead.
644
00:41:52,118 --> 00:41:56,337
All my life I've
always wondered who my mom was.
645
00:41:56,338 --> 00:41:58,252
When I was old enough
to understand,
646
00:41:58,253 --> 00:42:02,430
my parents sat me down
and explained I was adopted.
647
00:42:02,431 --> 00:42:03,693
Oh, thank you.
648
00:42:03,694 --> 00:42:06,522
He was always in search
of his mom.
649
00:42:06,523 --> 00:42:13,006
This was so hard on his heart
and his mind.
650
00:42:13,007 --> 00:42:15,487
I started thinking.
651
00:42:15,488 --> 00:42:18,969
You know, maybe
I should figure out who she is.
652
00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:21,014
I said, "But it could be
a Pandora's box.
653
00:42:21,015 --> 00:42:26,019
It could open up so many things
that you're not ready for.
654
00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:28,500
With every positive,
there's also negatives.
655
00:42:28,501 --> 00:42:30,589
So you just got to be ready
for all that
656
00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:32,854
when that box gets opened."
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