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MUSIC: "Back to Black"
by Amy Winehouse
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♪ I go back to black
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♪ Black
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♪ Black
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♪ Black
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♪ Black
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♪ Black
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♪ Black
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♪ I go back to
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♪ I go back to
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♪ We only said goodbye with words
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♪ I died a hundred times
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♪ You go back to her
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♪ And I, I...
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♪ We only said goodbye with words
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♪ I died a hundred times
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♪ You go back to her
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♪ And I go back...
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♪ To black. ♪
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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Thank you.
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This programme contains
some strong language.
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Five years ago,
Amy Winehouse went to Dingle -
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the westernmost town
on the coast of County Kerry.
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She had accepted
an invitation to appear
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at one of the world's most
exclusive music festivals.
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The Dingle Festival, set in a tiny
church in the middle of the town,
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provides the raw material for
the Irish TV series, Other Voices.
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Everyone who plays there
wants to come back.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Amy Winehouse arrived
on a wild, stormy night,
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ready to sing, and ready to talk,
especially about her musical heroes.
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Arena pays tribute to Other Voices,
and together they joined forces
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to present the whole
of that performance,
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and allow Amy Winehouse to tell the
story of her music in her own words.
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Amy appeared in the fifth series
of Other Voices,
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which we film every winter,
here in Dingle.
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As the crow flies, Dingle is about
the same distance from London
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as, say, Aberdeen.
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But you can't get to Dingle
by crow.
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Whether you start your journey
by plane, or by train,
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you finish it by automobile,
weather permitting.
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You just don't go to Dingle
by accident, it takes a commitment.
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A commitment musicians
have been making to Other Voices
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for ten years now.
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A commitment Amy made back in 2006.
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The truth is, there's something
very, very special about Dingle,
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and there's something quite
unique about Other Voices.
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'Other Voices was never planned -
it did just happen.
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'Here, there are conditions
that are special,
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'and that are very conducive
to great music.'
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It's peripheral -
people feel safe here.
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Artists sense something here.
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Over the years,
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as we've asked people to come,
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some say no, but many say yes.
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And if you go down
through the lists
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of people who have come -
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Irish artists, who begin
their careers here,
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great artists from
all the world around,
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whether it's The National,
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whether it's Rufus Wainwright,
his sister, Martha,
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Ray Davies, Ryan Adams.
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All these people come,
and something special happens.
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But something really special
happened the day Amy came to Dingle.
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MUSIC: "Another Green World"
by Brian Eno
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PARED DOWN INTRO TO "Back To Black"
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It started off bit-by-bit.
Not with rock concerts,
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but there was a parishioner here,
Steve Coulter -
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he noticed that the church was only
being used one day of the week,
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and said, "This is a pity. I can do
something for all the tourists
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"visiting Dingle".
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He was looking for a place
to have music, that wasn't a pub.
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So he started
folk concerts here,
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with the permission of the Select
Vestry, the parish council,
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to help him in his work,
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but also to help the parish
do a bit of fundraising.
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The parish here would have been
very badly hit over the years
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with emigration,
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It would have once been
a thriving parish
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Now, it's quite small in numbers,
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so it's difficult
for a small congregation
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to keep a building like this
up and running.
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From that, somebody had the idea,
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"Maybe if there are folk concerts
here, we can have other things".
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So Philip King approached Steve,
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and they approached
the Select Vestry
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with the idea of maybe
bringing other musicians in,
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for wider variety.
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Look at where we are. We're at
the edge of the known world,
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as it was, before we found out
it was round.
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We used to think that if you stood
at the edge of the Dingle Peninsula
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and looked west, and walked
out there, you would fall off.
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We were at the edge
of the known world.
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There is something about places
that are at the edge.
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Artists sense something
when they come here,
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of that I have no doubt,
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and they make an effort to come,
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and there's something
in the effort of getting here
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that makes the way
that they perform different,
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because the budget isn't big -
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the production doesn't have
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all of the clipboard people
running around,
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wondering if everything
is all right.
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There is something communal
and collegiate about the place,
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and people come here.
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It's real, and they're cherished,
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and they take to the stage,
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and sometimes I think that when
people go on stage in the church
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they are a little bit wary of it,
or almost put off by it,
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or find it very difficult.
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If you are Snow Patrol and you
played to 40,000 people last night,
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and you play to 80 people tonight,
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you're smack up against it.
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You're sitting in the lap
of the person in the front row.
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So this is different -
it is a different experience.
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It was a bad evening, a terrible
evening - very wet, windy and wet,
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actually very windy and wet.
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They gave me a name,
but I hadn't a clue from Adam
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who the lady was - not a clue,
just got the name.
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I remember going up
to the airport, and writing it out
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at the information desk,
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getting the paper thing
and writing her name on it,
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and standing there with it.
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I didn't have a clue
who Amy Winehouse was.
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I know the flight was late,
and I was waiting there for a while,
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and this girl came along,
and a man with her,
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and I was looking out
for more people,
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and I said to her,
"Where's your mother?"
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She said, "My mother's
back in London".
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She was laughing, and we were
laughing in-between her.
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I thought she was a child of Amy
Winehouse's, to tell you the truth.
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My first reaction of seeing her
was that she was a child!
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I remember it being a very long day,
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getting here, and then going
to the hotel to get ready,
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and then coming
to do the performance,
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and then going straight back
to the airport.
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And it was so long, it was a blur.
HE LAUGHS
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Can I stick my phone in there?
Sure - by all means.
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We had a great time -
we always did.
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She loved coming to Ireland,
actually.
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We'd been a few times...
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..and she always enjoyed herself
a lot.
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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The label - Chantal - was texting me,
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"Is she there? Is she OK?
Who's arrived, who's picked her up?
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"Is everything OK?"
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And I was like,
"Everything is wonderful".
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She marched up the stairs in Benners,
into her room, and says,
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"Can you give me a hand?"
I said, "What?" and she said,
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"Will you hold my hair
while I backcomb it?"
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I was like, "OK".
I'm holding the back of her hair
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and she's backcombing the front,
and I was like,
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"Can I get you something to eat?"
She was like, "No, no, no -
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"I'm late. I'm sure you're
way behind schedule
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"We've got work to do".
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We are delighted
to have here tonight Amy Winehouse.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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♪ All I can ever be to you
is the darkness that we knew
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♪ And this regret I got accustomed to
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♪ Once it was so right
When we were at our height
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♪ Waiting for you
in the hotel at night
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♪ I knew I hadn't met my match
But every moment we could snatch
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♪ I don't know why I got so attached
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♪ It's my responsibility
You don't owe nothing to me
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♪ But to walk away
I have no capacity
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♪ He walks away, the sun goes down
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♪ He takes the day, but I'm grown
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♪ And in your way
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♪ In this blue shade
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♪ My tears dry on their own
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♪ I don't understand
Why do I stress a man
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♪ When there's so many
bigger things ahead?
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♪ We could have never had it all
We had to hit a wall
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♪ So this is inevitable withdrawal
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♪ Even if I stop wanting you
And perspective pushes through
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♪ I'll be some next man's
other woman soon
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♪ I cannot play myself again
I should just be my own best friend
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♪ Not fuck myself in the head
with stupid men
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♪ He walks away, the sun goes down
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♪ He takes the day, but I am grown
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♪ And in your way
In this blue shade
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♪ My tears dry on their own
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♪ So we are history
Your shadow covers me
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♪ The sky above ablaze
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♪ He walks away, the sun goes down
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♪ He takes the day, but I am grown
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♪ And in your way
In this blue shade
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♪ My tears dry on...
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♪ I wish I could say, "No regrets"
No emotional debts
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♪ Boy, as we kiss goodbye
The sun sets
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♪ So we are history
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♪ Your shadow covers me
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♪ The sky above ablaze
That only lovers see
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♪ He walks away
The sun goes down
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♪ He takes the day, but I am grown
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♪ And in your way
In this blue shade
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♪ My tears dry on...
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♪ He walks away, the sun goes down
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♪ He takes the day, but I am grown
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♪ And in your way
In this blue shade
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♪ My tears dry on their own
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♪ He walks away, the sun goes down
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♪ He takes the day, but I am grown
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♪ And in your way
In this blue shade
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♪ My tears dry on their own. ♪
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Thank you.
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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Amy, you've just done a set
which is clearly
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"Amy Winehouse - soul singer".
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We don't get to hear that kind
of music in real life often,
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but we do hear it on record.
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Presumably, you heard this kind
of music first on record, as well?
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Yes. So who was it?
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When I was younger, I didn't really
listen to a lot of soul,
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but in the last year
I got very into Motown girl groups,
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and that kind of thing.
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Just in the last year?
Yeah - two, maybe... Year-and-a-half.
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It seems like it's in your bones.
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Yeah, I liked Otis Redding
when I was younger.
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Well, I've liked Otis Redding
from when I was about 14 or 15,
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but I listened to hip-hop and jazz
for so many years
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that it took me a while to...
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That's pretty much it...
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Soul comes in the middle -
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it goes jazz,
soul, Motown, then hip-hop.
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You know,
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obviously, I've gone
in the middle of them two.
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Just recently, I've been listening
to a lot of gospel singers
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like Mahalia Jackson
and Aretha Franklin.
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I love gospel singers,
cos gospel is so truthful.
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There's nothing... I'm not religious,
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but there's nothing more pure
than the relationship you have
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with your God or what you believe in,
your faith -
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there's nothing stronger than that,
apart from your love of music.
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Gospel to me is very inspirational.
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MUSIC: "Didn't It Rain"
by Mahalia Jackson
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VINYL CRACKLES
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♪ My Lord, Oh Lord
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♪ Mm, my Lord
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♪ Rained 40 days and 40 nights
without stopping
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♪ Noah was glad when the rain
stopped dropping
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♪ Knock at the window
Knock at the door
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♪ Crying, "Brother Noah
Can't you take on more?"
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♪ No, I can't, no
You're full of sin
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♪ Lord's got the key
and you can't get in
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♪ Just listen, how sweet
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♪ Just listen, how sweet
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♪ All day, all night
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♪ All night, all day
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♪ Just listen, how it's raining
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♪ Just listen, how it's raining
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♪ Some crying, some praying
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♪ Some running, some shouting
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♪ Just listen, how it's raining
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♪ Didn't it rain, children?
Rain all night long
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♪ Didn't it, didn't it, didn't it?
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♪ Oh, my Lord
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♪ Didn't it rain?
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♪ Mmmm... ♪
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It's our musicians and our artists
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who are the prophets of today,
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because a prophet,
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biblically speaking,
isn't a fortune teller.
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A prophet is somebody
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who tells it how it is,
who can hopefully see things
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the way God sees things -
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so tell you how things really are,
as opposed to the way
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that people might think they are.
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When you have people singing
rock'n'roll songs, pop songs,
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or whatever that is, that gives you
a window into where society is.
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The musicians don't create that,
they just reflect it.
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Sometimes you do get people writing
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really insightful, beautiful pieces
that they've brought here...
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and it does feel nearly like, erm...
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..an act of praise
or an act of worship
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to have them performed
in this space.
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This is the next single -
this is out January 15th.
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This is called I'm No Good.
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BASS GUITAR
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♪ Meet you downstairs
in the bar and heard
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♪ Your rolled-up sleeves
and your skull T-shirt
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♪ You say, "What did you do
with him today?"
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♪ And sniff me out
like I was Tanqueray
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♪ Cos you're my fellow, my guy
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♪ Hand me your Stella and fly
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♪ By the time I'm out the door
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♪ You tear me down like Roger Moore
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♪ I cheated myself
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♪ Like I knew I would
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♪ I told you I was trouble
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♪ Yeah, you know that I'm no good
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♪ Upstairs in bed with my ex-boy
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♪ He's in the place
But I can't get joy
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♪ Thinking of you in the final throes
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♪ This is where my buzzer blows
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♪ Run out to meet you
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♪ Chips in pitta
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♪ You say, "When we're we married"
Cos you're not bitter
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♪ "There'll be none of him, no more"
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♪ I cry for you on the kitchen floor
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♪ I cheated myself
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♪ Like I knew I would
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♪ I told you I was trouble
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♪ Yeah, you know that I'm no good
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♪ Sweet reunion, Jamaica and Spain
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♪ We're like how we were again
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♪ I'm in the tub, and you on the seat
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♪ Lick your lips as I soak my feet
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♪ Then you notice little carpet burn
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♪ My stomach drops, and my guts churn
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♪ You shrug, and it's the worst
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♪ Who truly stuck the knife in first?
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♪ I cheated myself
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♪ Like I knew I would
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♪ I told you I was trouble
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♪ Yeah, you know that I'm no good
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♪ I cheated myself
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♪ Like I knew I would
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♪ I told you I was trouble
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♪ Yeah, you know that I'm no good. ♪
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GUITAR SOLO
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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
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Thank you.
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When you're a singer,
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and you haven't heard someone
like Mahalia Jackson
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until later in life, that must make
you reassess yourself as a singer.
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You just kind of... There are a lot
of singers who, if you are singing,
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and you don't know certain people's
work intimately, you give up.
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Like Sarah Vaughan, Minnie Riperton
is another singer like that.
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Mahalia Jackson, Dinah Washington.
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Kim Burrell is another one.
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To see... For live performances,
you have to see Carleen Anderson
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at least three times in your life -
you have to.
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She's someone who I would sit
around the venue all day
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just to hear her sound check,
all day.
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She did a version
of Don't Look Back in Anger,
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and I was just crying. Oh!
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♪ Take me to the place where you go
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♪ Where nobody knows
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♪ If it's night or day
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♪ And please don't put
your life in the hands
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♪ Of a rock'n'roll band
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♪ And throw it all away
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♪ So I'll start a revolution
from my bed
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♪ Cos you said the brains I had
weren't in my head
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♪ Step outside, the summertime's
in bloom
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♪ Stand up beside the fireplace
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♪ And take that look
from off your face
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♪ Cos you ain't ever
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♪ Gonna burn my heart out
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♪ All I do is wait
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♪ I know it's too late
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♪ As they're walking on by. ♪
355
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These are very inspirational people,
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but they're also very hard
to emulate,
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because they're so extraordinary,
some of these people you talk about.
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I admire both dex...
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What's that word? Dexterity,
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but also the way they stand out.
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You know, you can't...
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They're very...
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Singers like Ella Fitzgerald,
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I always say she was one of
the greatest singers of all time.
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She knew how to carry a tune.
To me, really, she doesn't stand out.
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She just sounded like a lot of other
people. You can hear her, and go,
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"That's Ella Fitzgerald".
But it's not like she stood out.
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Would you prefer
Sarah Vaughan to Ella Fitzgerald?
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Easily. Sarah Vaughan is one of
my favourite singers of all time.
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Sarah Vaughan was an instrument.
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I've heard her on record humming -
she does like, a humming solo.
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She sounds like a reed instrument,
a clarinet, or something. It's mad.
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♪ ..is sentimental
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♪ Not made
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♪ Not made of wood
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♪ I got it bad
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♪ I got it bad
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♪ I got it bad
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♪ And that ain't good
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♪ But when the weekend's over
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♪ And Monday rolls around
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♪ I end up like I started
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♪ Just crying
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♪ My poor heart out
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♪ Lord, lord, lord, lord above me
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♪ Make him love me
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♪ The way he should
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♪ I got it bad
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♪ And that ain't good. ♪
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When you started to sing,
first of all,
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was it singers like Sarah Vaughan
you were trying to copy, or be?
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No, I think I came to Sarah Vaughan
a lot later, I was about 18.
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But I'd started listening
to Ella Fitzgerald,
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then I was, like,
my brother had all the good stuff,
and my brother was like,
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"Tsk-tsk, Dinah Washington".
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I learnt to sing
from Dinah Washington a lot.
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But I learnt to sing from stuff like
Monk, and a lot of soloists.
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That's how I learned to sing, rather
than just listening to singers.
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Because I loved jazz - it wasn't
really the vocal jazz,
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I just loved jazz, so I learnt
from everything, really.
401
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And when you started to perform
as a jazz singer,
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what was the set-up?
403
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Were you part of a band - were you
invited to sit in with people?
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I think I did one gig
as a jazz singer
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for the National Youth
Jazz Orchestra,
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which everyone has come through,
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comes through or goes through
at some point.
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That was my first and last gig,
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cos after that, my manager
came to that gig and said,
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"I'll give you loads of studio time -
just go in and play guitar,
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"and write songs".
I was like, "Thanks, why?"
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And he was like, "You're going
to make an album,
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"and then I'm going to get you signed
and everything".
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And I was like, "Really?"
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It was cool.
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00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,720
But I did a lot of... I still did,
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up until a couple of months ago,
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I'd do a massive opening
for a casino.
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I'd go out with just my piano player,
and we'd do jazz all night.
420
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Or sometimes we'd get
these Russian bankers
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that really like me
cos I'm Russian Jew.
422
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They always book me if they're
in town and we do jazz for them.
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We don't do my stuff.
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So I still sing jazz,
but I do it in a duo context.
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♪ For you, I was a flame
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♪ Love is a losing game
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♪ Five-storey fire as you came
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♪ Love
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♪ Is a losing game
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♪ One I wish I'd never played
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♪ Oh
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♪ What a mess we made
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♪ And now, the final frame
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♪ Love
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♪ Is a losing game
436
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♪ Played out by the band
437
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♪ Love is a losing hand
438
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♪ And it was more than I could stand
439
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:06,080
♪ Love is a losing hand
440
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♪ Self-professed, profound
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♪ Till the chips were down
442
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,560
♪ Though you're a gambling man
443
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,040
♪ Love is a losing hand
444
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,000
♪ Though I battle blind
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♪ Love is a fate resigned
446
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♪ And my memories
447
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♪ They mark my mind
448
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,880
♪ Love is a fate resigned
449
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,320
♪ Oh-ho-oh-oh
450
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,200
♪ Over futile odds
451
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,680
♪ And laughed at by the gods
452
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♪ Now the final frame
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♪ Love
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♪ Is a losing game. ♪
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Thank you.
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
456
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The whole jazz thing
has gone a bit strange,
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because anybody who sings any kind
of acoustic folk, even,
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is called a "jazz singer".
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00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,960
Yet you grew up singing
the real stuff.
460
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,000
You were into Monk,
and all of that. Yeah.
461
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Is there a good jazz scene in
England at the moment in London?
462
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Yes, there is - not in London,
necessarily,
463
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,800
but we have Dune Records.
464
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,960
My guitarist actually plays for them,
465
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it's not really their house band,
but they have a band.
466
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There's a band signed to
Dune Records called Jazz Jamaica -
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they're amazing.
468
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Saw them at Brecon.
469
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It was a massive auditorium, and
they were on quite early in the day,
470
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,240
cos not a lot of people
know who they are.
471
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,880
We sat at the back of the
auditorium, expecting it to fill up,
472
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,120
and there was probably
about 30 people in there.
473
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When I say "massive", I mean
the size of 1,000-capacity,
474
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800
and we were practically alone,
it was amazing.
475
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,360
They were so cool.
476
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,240
Their stuff is literally like
ska jazz, and they're wicked.
477
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Then there's members of that...
478
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:40,560
Denys Baptiste is in there,
and there's Abraham Wilson,
479
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,280
who's a great trumpet player -
he's doing his own thing.
480
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,160
But I think my favourite jazz artist
in England
481
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is definitely Soweto Kinch.
482
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,640
He's great. I love Soweto.
I melt every time I see him.
483
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,920
I'm like, "Hi, have you still
got a girlfriend?"
484
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520
And he's like,
"I'll chuck her for you".
485
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,000
The mission to excel
is a solitary one.
486
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,080
Hours of dedicated practice
every day,
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00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,320
for little or no financial reward.
488
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,320
Milkmen and paperboys have long
finished their rounds,
489
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,960
schoolchildren are on their way,
490
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,640
and the ordinary bustle
goes on around.
491
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,680
The jazz musician's quest
goes on regardless
492
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,720
in this unlikely setting.
493
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,440
High above the drudgery of routine,
494
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480
trying to climb the stratosphere,
495
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,080
and be heard.
496
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,520
Were you also listening - I presume
you were, when you were at school,
497
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,840
all girls together -
listening to Top of the Pops
498
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,200
and regular pop music, as well?
499
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,840
Yeah. When I was very young,
only when I was very young.
500
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,840
I watched Top of the Pops
because you do watch Top of the Pops,
501
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440
until you're old enough
to go out on a Friday night -
502
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,680
is it Friday night?
503
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,040
It was Thursday,
I don't know when it is now.
504
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,080
I don't even think there
is Top of the Pops any more.
No, there isn't!
505
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,920
But, um...
506
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,560
But I loved Kylie
when I was about six.
507
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,680
Then, when I was... Yeah, I loved
Kylie when I was about six,
508
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,680
then Madonna. I graduated
to the church of Madonna.
509
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,400
I converted to the church of Madonna.
I loved Madonna so much.
510
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,800
And, um...
511
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,040
And when I was ten, I got wind
of Salt'n'Pepa, and my life changed.
512
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,760
What A Man. Completely,
my life changed -
513
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,480
and from then on it was like
R&B only from about ten.
514
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,320
Then, when I was about 14, jazz.
515
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,720
MUSIC: "Rhythm-a-ning"
by Thelonious Monk
516
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,160
She was heavily influenced
with Thelonious Monk
517
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,840
and I'd spend time in the evenings
with her, listening to Monk,
518
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,480
and her following everything
note for note.
519
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,280
It was amazing, really, because
it's such heavy music, anyway.
520
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,880
Yeah, she was very much into
instrumentation
521
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000
as well as the voice, really,
522
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,240
and it came out when she'd sing.
523
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,640
She had that ability
to improvise phrases,
524
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080
and her rhythm was phenomenal,
525
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,920
so she could just
literally manipulate it
526
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,160
in the way she wanted to,
527
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,640
and every night
when we'd go on stage,
528
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,280
she could sing the same song,
but different every night
529
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,640
and she'd give her all.
530
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Did you have help
in finding this stuff?
531
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,280
Did your parents have these records,
or did you have to look for them?
532
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,920
No, my brother had everything -
all the R&B
533
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,760
and all that stuff that I came to,
it was called "swing" at the time.
534
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Stuff like that, I would buy.
535
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,280
At the time my brother
was listening to a lot of,
536
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,720
like, Sonic Youth,
and Pearl Jam and Therapy?,
537
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,360
"I-want-to-die" bands,
538
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,600
and I had a very brief flirtation
with that,
539
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,440
but I must have been literally,
like I said, nine,
540
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200
and then I discovered Salt'n'Pepa
and I was like,
541
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,400
"I've got my music now".
542
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,720
He started listening to jazz
when he was about 18,
543
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:56,160
and I was 14, and I just remember
the first time I ever heard
544
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Round Midnight, through the wall.
545
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,960
I was just like...
546
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,240
Was it Monk or Miles playing it?
Monk.
547
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,480
I was just like, "What is that?!"
548
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,120
I'll never forget that.
549
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Yeah, I still remember hearing it.
550
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,760
Ella sings it, too -
a great version of it.
551
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,000
Oh, really? Oh, yeah - of course.
552
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
I remember the first time I heard
Ray Charles, ever.
553
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,040
It was Unchain My Heart.
554
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,040
And, um... Yeah,
it was Unchain My Heart.
555
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,680
I remember walking
into my brother's room,
556
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,920
and I opened the door...
I always used to knock -
557
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,200
I opened the door
and I was just like that...
558
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,680
and he goes "What?"
559
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,840
He looked at me like I was about
to go, "Mum's dead",
560
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,280
or something like that. Touch wood.
561
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,280
He goes, "What's wrong?"
I went, "Who is this?"
562
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,600
And he went, "It's Ray Charles."
I was like, "(Ray Charles)".
563
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,440
From then on, I think I just
listened to Ray Charles
564
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,040
for three months, exclusively.
I was just like, "(Oh, my God)"
565
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,360
♪ Unchain my heart
Unchain my heart
566
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,400
♪ Baby, let me go
Unchain my heart
567
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440
♪ Unchain my heart
Unchain my heart
568
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,120
♪ Cos you don't love me no more
Unchain my heart
569
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,040
♪ Every time I call you on the phone
570
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,640
♪ Some fella tells me
that you're not at home
571
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,840
♪ So unchain my heart
Oh, please, set me free. ♪
572
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,760
99% of all the songs,
I start with the lyrics.
573
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,200
The lyrics must tell me a nice
story - I must get some feeling.
574
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,400
It must be some kind of way
575
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,480
I can identify with that song,
576
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,760
and then it's like being
a good actor or actress -
577
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,440
how you do a part on the stage where
people become so involved with you,
578
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,560
they forget that you're just playing
a part that somebody written,
579
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,840
and they getting mad at you,
580
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,560
or if you're funny, they laugh.
581
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,400
It's that kind of a thing.
582
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,240
If it's sad, they'll cry -
because you do what you're doing
583
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,080
so well that you get
the people involved
584
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,640
in the feeling of what you're doing.
585
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,840
And it's the same thing
with singing a song,
586
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,200
and that's what I try to do.
587
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,680
I find songs that I feel I put myself
into, and make you believe
588
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,480
in what I am singing about
must have happened to me,
589
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160
and you too, maybe.
590
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,600
She talked about music
in a really beautiful way -
591
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,240
in a way that a real singer does.
592
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,520
And there's something about singers.
593
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,120
Um...
594
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,760
They're sort of...
595
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,000
They're odd - they carry songs
with them.
596
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,680
How many songs is any singer
singing at one time?
597
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,840
How many songs are in
a singer's head, for example?
598
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,600
If you talk to a great jazz singer
they'll say,
599
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,040
"I know 500 songs, but I'm singing
30 of them at the minute".
600
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,720
With Amy, even one so young,
601
00:38:53,720 --> 00:39:01,160
who was only 22, on the edge of what
became a truly brilliant career...
602
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,880
..that ended in tragedy.
603
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,760
When she was here, I felt
she was really happy in some way.
604
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,600
That she...
605
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,440
Certainly, the way that she sang
that night, she sang the blues away,
606
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,280
if you know what I mean.
607
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120
She used her gift
608
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,680
to still her trembling soul.
609
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:30,240
She used her gift as a way
to explain herself to herself,
610
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,280
to entertain people, sure.
611
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,760
But to sing the blues,
and to give herself some relief.
612
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,960
INTRO: "Back To Black"
613
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,240
♪ He left no time to regret
614
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,120
♪ Kept his dick wet
615
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,360
♪ With his same old safe bet
616
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,720
♪ Me
617
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:11,680
♪ And my head high
618
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,520
♪ And my tears dry
619
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,400
♪ Get on without my guy
620
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:28,520
♪ You went back
to what you know
621
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,000
♪ So far removed
622
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,240
♪ From all that we went through
623
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:44,800
♪ And I tread a troubled track
624
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,640
♪ My odds are stacked
625
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,720
♪ I'll go back to black
626
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,400
♪ We only said goodbye with words
627
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,240
♪ I died a hundred times
628
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,520
♪ You go back to her
629
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,360
♪ And I go back to...
630
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,120
♪ I go back to us
631
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,440
♪ I love you much
632
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,360
♪ It's not enough
633
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,040
♪ You love blow and I love puff
634
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:34,120
♪ And life, life is like a pipe
635
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:38,000
♪ And I'm a tiny penny
636
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,080
♪ Rolling up the walls inside
637
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,760
♪ We only said goodbye with words
638
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,800
♪ I died a hundred times
639
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,680
♪ You go back to her
640
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,360
♪ And I go back to...
641
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,520
♪ We only said goodbye with words
642
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,280
♪ I died a hundred times
643
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,320
♪ You go back to her
644
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,800
♪ And I go back to...
645
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,040
♪ I go back to...
646
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,880
♪ Black
647
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,960
♪ Black
648
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,800
♪ Black
649
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,680
♪ Black
650
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,400
♪ Black
651
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,120
♪ Black
652
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,160
♪ Black
653
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,920
♪ I go back to...
654
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,720
♪ I go back to...
655
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,160
♪ We only said goodbye with words
656
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,680
♪ I died a hundred times
657
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,320
♪ You go back to her
658
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,760
♪ And I...
659
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,200
♪ I
660
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,280
♪ We only said goodbye with words
661
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,080
♪ I died a hundred times
662
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,000
♪ You go back to her
663
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,040
♪ And I go back
664
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,560
♪ To black. ♪
665
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,720
APPLAUSE
666
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,400
Thank you.
667
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,080
The reference points
on the new album, however,
668
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600
in terms of soul music,
669
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,080
very often they're on
the pop/soul end of things,
670
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,480
the girl groups, the Shangri-Las
and those sorts of people.
671
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,920
What appeals to you in those groups,
because they are so...some of them,
672
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,960
over the top, you know,
melodrama by the bucket load?
673
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,320
Yeah, I love the drama, I love the
atmosphere, I love the sound effects.
674
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,080
People will know Leader Of The Pack
and things like that,
675
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,200
but there's so many of them,
Sophisticated Boom Boom...
676
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Yeah, and they write the most
depressing songs ever
677
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,000
like I Can Never Go Home Any More.
678
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,960
When me and my boyfriend finished,
679
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,080
I used to listen to that song
on repeat.
680
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,400
I listened to that song for two weeks
just sitting on my kitchen floor,
681
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,960
with a bottle of Jack Daniels,
682
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,840
drinking the Jack Daniels and pass
out, wake up and just do it again.
683
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,240
My flatmate used to come in,
leave me bags of KFC and just leave.
684
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:43,880
She'd come in and see me,
685
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,760
and be like, "There's your dinner,
I'm going out."
686
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,440
Listening to
I Can Never Go Home Anymore...
687
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,080
Yeah. On repeat, like that.
688
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,840
♪ I'm gonna hide if she don't
leave me alone
689
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,920
That's the saddest song
in the world,
690
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,760
that is the most depressing song.
It's like, "Mum, I'm in love."
691
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,800
She's like, "You're too young,
you can't be."
692
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,000
"Well, Mum, I'm leaving."
First of all she's like,
693
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,280
"I've got nothing in my life, I just
go to school." And then, a miracle.
694
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,400
The angels came. A boy. Her mum dies
of grief because she never goes home.
695
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,160
And when she leaves home, she's like,
"I don't love him anyway."
696
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,720
It's like, so depressing.
697
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,360
What's that line? "The angels came
and took her for a friend."
698
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,080
Yeah, "She grew so lonely in the end,
699
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,280
"that the angels took her
for their friend
700
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,080
"and I can never go home anymore
and that's sad."
701
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,640
♪ Never
702
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,640
♪ Go home anymore... ♪
703
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,240
There is this sense in our culture
of the suffering artist
704
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:27,280
or that art come out of a sense
of things not being right.
705
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:32,040
And it's that struggle,
the struggle of suffering,
706
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,240
or people being really extreme
707
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:39,200
and being on the edge
708
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,200
and that is where great art
comes from,
709
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,960
and with Amy there is this sense
that, yes,
710
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,240
there was this wonderful art,
this wonderful music that came out
711
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:56,920
and to a certain extent came out
from her living a life on the edge
712
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:02,840
but I think there is sort of,
like a category mistake.
713
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:08,920
It's not, it doesn't have to stay
on the edge, you know,
714
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:15,200
it's maybe the great art comes out
of the resolution between
715
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:22,480
being on the edge and then coming
to a comfortable, safe place.
716
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,200
Sort of a more whole place
for a person.
717
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,920
I find that any time I listen to
any of Amy's music,
718
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,840
it is tinged with that touch
of sadness -
719
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:40,040
that she never got the resolution,
it seems so very tragic.
720
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,240
This is my first single.
Before I go on,
721
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,680
I'd like to introduce
my band to you.
722
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,240
We've got Robin Banerjee
on the guitar.
723
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,640
And Dale Davis on the bass.
724
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,960
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
725
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,120
He's got his on fan club, you know.
726
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,480
All right, this is called Rehab.
727
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,680
You boys going to count me in?
728
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,800
One, two, one, two, three.
729
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,640
♪ They tried to make me go to rehab
730
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,280
♪ I said no, no, no
731
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,520
♪ Yes, I've been black
But when I come back
732
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,760
♪ You'll know, know, know
733
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,880
♪ I ain't got the time
734
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,560
♪ And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
735
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,200
♪ Just try to make me go to rehab
736
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,440
♪ I won't go, go, go
737
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,520
♪ I'd rather be
738
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,720
♪ At home with Ray
739
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,040
♪ I ain't got 70 days
740
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,440
♪ Cos there's nothing
741
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,400
♪ There's nothing you can teach me
742
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,800
♪ That I can't learn
743
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,640
♪ From Mr Hathaway
744
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,560
♪ I didn't get a lot in class
745
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,240
♪ But I know it don't come
746
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,280
♪ In a shot glass
747
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,760
♪ They tried to make me go to rehab
748
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,200
♪ I said no, no, no
749
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,240
♪ Yes, I been black
750
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:31,040
♪ But when I come back
you'll know, know, know
751
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,720
♪ I ain't got the time
752
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:39,640
♪ And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
753
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,640
♪ Just try to make me go to rehab
754
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,160
♪ I won't go, go, go
755
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:52,600
♪ The man said
"Why you think you here?"
756
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,880
♪ I said, "I got no idea"
757
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:06,680
♪ I said, "I'm gonna,
I'm gonna lose my baby
758
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:14,160
♪ "So I always keep
a bottle near here"
759
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,840
♪ He said
760
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,040
♪ "I just think you're depressed"
761
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,280
♪ Just me
762
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,680
♪ Yeah, baby
763
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,360
♪ And the rest
764
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,600
♪ They tried to make me go to rehab
765
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,840
♪ I said no, no, no
766
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,880
♪ Yes, I've been black
767
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,720
♪ But when I come back
768
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,560
♪ You'll know, know, know
769
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,880
♪ I don't never want to drink again
770
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,320
♪ I just
771
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,400
♪ I just need a friend
772
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,240
♪ I'm not going to spend ten weeks
773
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,560
♪ Have everyone think
774
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,440
♪ I'm on the mend
775
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,520
♪ It's not just my pride
776
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,440
♪ It's just till
777
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,400
♪ These tears have dried
778
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,440
♪ They tried to make me go to rehab
779
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,320
♪ I said no, no, no
780
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,400
♪ Yes, I've been black
but when I come back
781
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,040
♪ You'll know, know, know
782
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,680
♪ I ain't got the time
783
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,680
♪ And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
784
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,680
♪ Just try to make me go to rehab
785
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,880
♪ I won't go, go, go. ♪
786
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,880
APPLAUSE
787
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,960
Thank you very much.
788
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,600
In any sense was this album,
in any way at all,
789
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,680
moving you away from the jazz tag,
790
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,680
did you want to get away from that
at all? No. Not at all.
791
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,320
I'm a jazz singer.
I can do jazz,
792
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,320
I can do hip-hop and I was just
not listening to that any more.
793
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,480
And what I listen to influences
what I write. Very much so.
794
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,960
I'm going to do my third album now,
795
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,400
just get it out...not get it out
the way, not like, knock it out.
796
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,440
I'm just gonna...
797
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,520
I'm just...
I'm just taking every opportunity.
798
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,200
Like, I've got two week off
over Christmas, I'm going to work.
799
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:43,840
I'm not going to sit around
and eat chocolates and drink brandy,
800
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,120
I'm not going to do stuff like that.
801
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,920
I'm going to have Christmas Eve
with my boyfriend,
802
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,680
I'm going to break him
into Christmas.
803
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,520
We're going to watch Bad Santa,
Elf and It's A Wonderful Life,
804
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,480
I'm going to cook dinner, and if he
doesn't cry, I'm going to leave him.
805
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,280
If that doesn't work, get rid of
him. I'm going to leave him!
806
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,560
Bad Santa, Elf, It's A Wonderful Life
807
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,640
and then me packing my bags.
Literally.
808
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,880
And then Christmas Day
at my mum's, at my auntie's,
809
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,680
Boxing Day at his mum's
and then back to work.
810
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,320
It was literally a few week after
the album took off in America
811
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,960
and she'd won loads of awards
and then that was it, you know.
812
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,600
We just went off and promoted
the record
813
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,360
and I think the demand for her
was so great then
814
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,480
that she probably
didn't have a chance
815
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,480
to sit down and write
that next album, really.
816
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,920
She burnt so brightly, you know.
817
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,360
I have no idea what to do now.
818
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,680
What?
819
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,880
'Do you miss her?
Absolutely, I think about her.
820
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,240
'When she was alive I used to think
about her all the time, every day,
821
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:55,120
'and now she's gone, you know,
I always think about her.
822
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,800
'It's a big loss.
823
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,600
'It's life but it's a big loss,
you know, really.'
824
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,680
Yeah, OK. This is called
Me And Mr Jones.
825
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,880
I don't need the pre-chord!
Thank you.
826
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,200
♪ Nobody stands
in between me and my man
827
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,360
♪ It's me and Mr Jones
828
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,040
♪ What kind of fuckery is this?
829
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,160
♪ You made me miss the Slick Rick gig
830
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,240
♪ You thought I didn't love you
when I did
831
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:49,800
♪ Can't believe you played me out
like that
832
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,880
♪ No, you ain't worth guest list
833
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,000
♪ Plus one of all them girls
you kissed
834
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,880
♪ You can't keep lying
to yourself like this
835
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,160
♪ Can't believe
you played yourself
836
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,640
♪ Like this
837
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,520
♪ Slick Rick's one thing
838
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,000
♪ But come Brixton
839
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:33,200
♪ Nobody stands
in between me and my man
840
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:38,320
♪ Cos it's me and Mr Jones
841
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:46,240
♪ Me and Mr Jones
842
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,480
♪ What kind of fuckery are we?
843
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,720
♪ Nowadays you don't mean dick to me
844
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,520
♪ But I might let you
make it up to me
845
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,160
♪ Yeah, yeah, baby
846
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:11,200
♪ Who's playing Saturday?
847
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,520
♪ What kind of fuckery are you?
848
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:23,280
♪ 'Side from Sammy
You're my best black Jew
849
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,000
♪ I thought I could swear
that we were through
850
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:42,440
♪ I still wonder
'bout the things you do
851
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:49,160
♪ Mr Destiny, nine and 14
852
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:54,520
♪ Nobody stands
in between me and my man
853
00:56:54,520 --> 00:57:01,480
♪ Cos it's me and Mr Jones
854
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,880
♪ Yeah
855
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:09,440
♪ Yeah
856
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,120
♪ Yeah... ♪
857
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,040
APPLAUSE
Thank you.
858
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,520
Thank you very much.
859
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,000
When Amy Winehouse sang,
she let us in,
860
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,400
if we have the ears to hear
861
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,560
and the eyes to see
into the heart
862
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,160
of what she really was as a person
and as an artist.
863
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,200
She touched all of us that year
864
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,760
because she was so "un"
865
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,000
what she had been represented as
in the tabloids.
866
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,800
And we didn't care about
any of that,
867
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,200
we weren't interested in any of that
and still aren't.
868
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,320
It was just brilliant that she came
with her spindly little legs
869
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:05,160
and her mental hair and sang
her heart out in Kerry for us.
870
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,800
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
871
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,280
Thanks for talking to us.
872
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,720
Thanks for making this trip,
I know it was a long journey.
873
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,240
Actually, having heard what some
of you had to do to get here,
874
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,960
mine was a walk in the park,
to be honest.
875
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,640
All we did was have a two-hour drive
from another airport,
876
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,120
at least we got a flight.
877
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,600
You got here and you did
the business in there tonight.
878
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,320
Thanks, Amy, thanks.
Thank you. Cheers.
879
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,120
Sorry I went off on one of my chats.
I went off on one, too.
880
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,800
I don't get to talk to people
very often.
881
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,920
Oh, my God! Wow!
882
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,840
Thank you so much.
883
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,240
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