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Joseph, what's the latest on IS?
Do we have any matches?
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Yeah, kind of.
I'm having a little bit of trouble
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trying to get our software
to distinguish between
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times when someone has referred to "IS,"
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as in the Islamic State,
which we must keep a record of,
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versus times when they've simply
used the word "is."
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You've spent the best part of a week
looking into all nationwide communication
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containing the word "is?"
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Yeah, I mean, you'd be surprised
how much it comes up.
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Jerry, did you get a cyber-trace
on where the Russians are operating from?
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Uh, well, first of all,
good morning, Chris.
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And, no, my only guess is that
somehow they're able to operate
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even when their main server's asleep.
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-I'm a bit like that!
-[Jerry] Anyway, has the NSA reached out
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-to see how I'm getting on with all this?
-[Chris] Yes, of course.
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If word gets out that a weapon
designed by the NSA
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is now in the hands of terrorists,
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it'll be the biggest humiliation
since Snowden.
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Yeah, I was asking more about,
like, did they reach out to say hi?
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But what you said
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-was also super important.
-[Chris] Right.
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No. Also, just so that you know,
as part of GCHQ's commitment
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to tackling sexual harassment
and discrimination in the workplace,
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CySec has been assigned Hilary Bowden
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who will be leading some workshops
during the day.
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-Is she GCHQ?
-No, but she comes recommended
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by Rupert and Downing Street,
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she's also worked closely
with Prince Andrew.
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Not too closely, I hope.
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-[tray rattling]
-And one final thing…
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-[clanking]
-One final thing.
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I'm delighted to announce that
CySec's new fire marshal will be… Evelyn.
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-Ohh… Was it close?
-No.
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-Meaning?
-Well done.
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Wait, you didn't even apply for the role?
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-What role?
-Does HR know?
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It's fine. It's something to keep her
active and get her out of my office.
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Chris, you can't just give that role
to your own daughter!
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-Why not?
-Well, isn't that… What's it called
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-when you favor a relative?
-Incest?
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If you're accusing me of nepotism
within GCHQ,
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it's probably my grandmother
you need to speak to first.
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-Right. Where is she?
-Cheltenham Cemetery.
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-Twelve across, four down.
-Oh, it's lovely round there!
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-That's bullshit.
-If only it wasn't so obvious
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that Evelyn has got the role
purely on merit.
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Sorry, got what on merit?
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We'll set you up in the boardroom
if that's okay.
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Any update from the Russians
on how your mum's getting on?
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Oh, they won't let me speak to her.
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She's very strong-willed.
She once ate a glass vase.
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That's Jerry Bernstein.
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[continues indistinctly]
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-Come along, let's get this over with.
-Yeah.
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Yeah, hi.
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I just wanna make sure
you received my donation
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to the Women's Progressive
Liberal Library fund.
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Yes, $10,000.
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Great. Thank you.
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I'm so sorry. How can I help you?
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Hilary Bowden.
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I'll be leading the harassment
and discrimination sessions today.
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Oh, right, right. Jerry Bernstein, NSA.
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Well, are you a breath of fresh air!
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-Oh, really? Why?
-Oh, just that you're very…
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Um…
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Um… Red. You're very red.
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[chuckles] Were you about to say
I was attractive?
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Maybe.
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-Uh, would that have been okay?
-Of course, why not?
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Well, it's just that, you know,
men like me are often… Oh, never mind.
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-No, go on.
-No, it's just that, you know,
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being a good-looking,
straight, white male these days
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is kinda like having a target
on your back, you know?
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Anyway, um, if you need anything
at all while you're here,
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you just, you know, give me a nudge.
[chuckles] I'm a big fan of your harass…
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of anti… of anti-harassment,
and… your work.
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And discrimination. Very important.
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Well, then, shall we?
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-No, please.
-No. please.
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[chuckles] Okay!
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-[pats Jerry on backside]
-Oh! Hello!
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After you.
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How do you feel about sharing
the fire marshal position?
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There's only one tabard.
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I know. I can give it a rinse in between.
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Aren't you health and safety officer?
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Yes, but ever since Elaine walked
into that sheet of glass,
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there's been nothing to do.
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What do you want me to do, start a fire?
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It's not very nice, is it?
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-[Hilary] Good morning, everyone!
-[both] Good morning.
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As you know, my name is Hilary Bowden.
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I'm an ambassador for CBT
in the workplace.
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I have experience with animals,
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and I am co-creator
of the biodegradable coil.
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We are stretched for time,
so just to get the ball rolling,
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I'd like to start
with maybe a general chat
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about our own personal experiences
of harassment.
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Would anyone like to go first?
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-Well…
-I…
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-Oh. No, you… You sure?
-No. Yep, you go.
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So, I often get teased quite a lot,
because of my height.
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I don't know if that's harassment per se.
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I see. From a psychological point
of view, does that get you down?
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Well, I am a lot closer to the ground,
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if that's what you…
Is that what you meant?
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But do you ever find it restricting?
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Oh, no. No, I mean, within reason,
I can fit into any-sized space, so…
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-Like a squid.
-Or a gas.
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And Jerry, as the alpha of the pack,
have you always been this tall?
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Yes, since birth. I'm tall everywhere.
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And are you now at your
maximum height, do you think?
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Actually, I can feel myself
growing right now…
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Lovely.
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Okay, so I would like to try
a little bit of roleplay.
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Mary… and Joseph.
Come and help me at the front here.
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Jerry, could you move this chair
for me, please?
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[chatters indistinctly]
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-[pats behind]
-[exclaims]
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-[Hilary] Okay, I want you to imagine…
-Okay.
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…that Mary has been bullying Joseph
for his height, say.
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-Why?
-Actually, that's a good point.
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In theory, why else
might we want to make fun of Joseph?
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I don't know how best to say this.
The "color of his skin?"
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-Yes. Thank you.
-His intellect.
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-The size of his nose.
-The way he dresses.
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-That's enough.
-His one brow.
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Jerry, I think…
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[Hilary]
That's a good amount of variables.
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And which one of these are you
most comfortable talking about, Mary?
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Oh, probably, um, uh…
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the color of his skin.
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Yes, I agree. At least in theory,
that's certainly the most obvious.
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-I don't know, that nose is pretty big!
-Jerry!
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So, imagine that you've had
a run-in with Joseph,
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and you've ended up
saying something racist.
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Um, do you want me to actually say
the word out loud?
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Well, do you have
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-a particular word in mind?
-A few, yes.
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Oh, but only because
Mum used to talk in her sleep.
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-Right.
-Just for my write-up, Christine,
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what proportion of the office
is Black?
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Sorry, I believe the correct term
is African American.
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I think quite a lot of the furniture
is black. Sorry, African American.
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Of course we have very few, if any,
African Americans working here.
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What? How do you get away with that?
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-Okay, I think that's enough.
-Yeah.
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-Now we can all relax.
-How did that make you feel, Joseph?
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Uh… I guess it made me feel
a bit more white.
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Hilary, given that I hang out
with Joseph so much,
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does that mean I can
never be accused of being a racist?
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Okay, well, let's break that down,
shall we?
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Does your friendship with Joseph
ever feel like a conscious decision?
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-Absolutely. Oh…
-No. I mean, a little bit of both.
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It's not an act of pity or… self-defense?
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How would it be self-defense?
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Well, perhaps it makes
Jerry feel more powerful,
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being around people of color.
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-Like in Moana?
-Yeah.
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No, I'd never do that!
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That's not to say I don't feel powerful
around you, buddy,
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-but I think anyone would.
-[Joesph] Hmm.
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Okay, so this next bit
is actually taken from my latest book.
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It's just a scenario that I'd like you
to mull over before lunch.
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Now what if Jerry invited Joseph
over to his house--
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He's staying in a hotel.
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Okay, so imagine he invites him over
to his hotel, and cooks him a delicious--
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-He doesn't have a kitchen.
-Assume it's a suite.
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I'm sure they'd upgrade me if I asked.
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-Can't you use the hotel kitchen?
-That was going to be my question.
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-Jesus.
-No, I don't wanna hang out
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with those guys.
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I'm trying to cook Joseph a nice,
romantic children's meal.
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The point is, Jerry ends up cooking
Joseph a really big, vibrant curry.
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-You wrote a book about this?
-I actually quite like curry.
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Oh, there you go! See?
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The question is, though, is that racist?
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No way, I'm just using up
all the ingredients I had left over.
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I thought that was Pancake Day.
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But is this a sign
that we have preconceived ideas of people?
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No. I'm just trying to cook my best friend
in London--
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-Cheltenham.
-…Cheltenham, his favorite meal.
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-I never said it was my favorite.
-See?
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Yeah. But I'd do the same for anyone!
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I mean, apart from Tuva maybe.
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Why, what would you cook for me?
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I'm imagining a more fragrant,
spicy, kind of noodle thing.
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-Surely that's time?
-With a side of crickets.
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What the fuck?
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Are we not doing the bit
where I call Joseph a…
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[inaudible]
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Wow!
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-Phones off.
-[phone pings]
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Come on, move!
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-[Evelyn] Ow! God!
-[text alert]
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-Move up.
-Yeah.
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-Hilary just grabbed my junk again.
-What? Why?
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Maybe it's some kind of game,
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like a perverted version of Bop It.
Whatever it is, I think she's winning.
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Are you going to say something?
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I don't know.
What if she's just really into me?
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-What if she's not?
-Well, then I'm going to tell on her!
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To Chris?
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What's going on?
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Oh, it's just, Hilary groped
Jerry's crotch and he wants to tell Chris.
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-Oh!
-Pass it on.
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Something about Jerry and Chris' crotch.
I didn't really catch it.
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He caught something?
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I don't know,
but we all have to pass it on.
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-Jerry's got an STD.
-What?
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-Pass it on.
-Ew, no, gross!
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Jerry's got syphilis again.
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[mouthing]
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It's sexual harassment time.
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What I want to examine
is what's acceptable in the workplace,
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what's unacceptable, and ultimately…
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-what's illegal.
-Yeah, me, too!
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Can anyone give me an example of something
that's illegal in the workplace?
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Homicide.
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Yes, but I'm particularly interested
in those muddier areas.
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Um, who uses kisses
at the end of their emails?
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-And how does everyone feel about that?
-How do you think?
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The only thing that bothers me
is when the whole email is just a kiss.
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Even the subject line?
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Yeah, there's kisses just everywhere.
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Yeah, in my defense, I think
a lot of those were group emails.
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-They were.
-Yeah.
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Why didn't I receive one?
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You'd have to check your mailbox settings.
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Okay.
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I sometimes use hugs
at the end of my emails.
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-What's a hug?
-Kinda like--
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No, no. Get off!
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No, I mean, how do you
write a hug in email?
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Oh, well, I type a big capital "O,"
or I use open and closed brackets.
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Just to offer you my professional opinion,
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and I'd say the same to the Royals,
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I'd worry that might look a little
like an entranceway.
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Oh…
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-What, like I'm inviting someone in?
-Yeah, baby!
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Is that allowed?
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-What, "Yeah, baby?"
-Yeah.
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Oh, come on. It's harmless, isn't it?
It's just, like, two words.
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-So is "sugar tits."
-Thank you.
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Chris, how do you sign off your emails?
Would you ever use a kiss?
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No. I only ever sign off with an X
if I want that person killed.
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-Hm, Tony Blair does that.
-Is that why you keep doing that to me?
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No. If I wanted you killed,
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-I'd probably just… do it in your sleep.
-Oh, my God!
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So one additional thing I'm keen
to examine within these sessions
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is the degree to which
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our decisions are affected
by unconscious bias.
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-I wouldn't know.
-Exactly.
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So, the best way I like to test for this
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is by imagining that
the building is on fire,
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and working out
who you would save first.
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-[both] Jerry.
-Quentin.
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-Joseph.
-Mum.
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-Mary.
-Aw.
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-You're the lightest.
-Oh.
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Well, no, try and ignore
all other factors.
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So let's pretend that you're Superman,
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and, therefore, the size and weight
of an individual isn't important.
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So, assuming you're Superman, Jerry,
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-would Mary be your first choice as well?
-Uh, I'm not sure.
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I'd be worried about her wig catching fire
and damaging my cape.
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-It's not a wig!
-What about me?
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Well, you'd be okay for a few hours
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-in your Mum's glass box up there.
-Not if it melts.
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Oh, Tuva!
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Chris, surely you'd want to save Evelyn
at some point.
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I wouldn't want to be accused
of nepotism, would I?
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So you'd rather I burned to death?
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I don't think this would have happened
if I'd have been made fire marshal.
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So what we actually recommend
as a way of avoiding unconscious bias
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within this scenario, is to save people,
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-but in alphabetical order.
-Oh, great!
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-Starting with you, Christine.
-What?
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-Followed by Evelyn.
-Great!
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Then it'd be me, Hilary,
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if I happened to be around.
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Yes, what a shame you're only here
for one day of the year.
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-Like Santa Claus.
-Or a smear test.
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Yes.
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What I want to look at now
is physical interaction.
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Now, I will warn you that some of this
is quite sensitive,
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but I did try some of these techniques out
at a Cobra meeting last week,
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-so they are perfectly safe.
-[mouthing]
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Uh, Jerry, do you mind
joining me at the front, please?
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So, what I'm going to do is demonstrate
how to hug a colleague the correct way
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from a legal point of view.
293
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Okay? So here we go…
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And a one, two, and then off.
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Now, if you want to put
a bit of force back into your pushback,
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just to prove there's no agenda there,
that's absolutely fine.
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But what if your colleague
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has just witnessed something horrendous
on the web
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and you feel like
a longer hug is necessary?
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You might want to go for a…
a one, two, three and then off.
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Jesus.
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Okay? So why don't we all give that a go?
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Shall I hug you?
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One…
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Careful. She's ancient.
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Okay, I'm here. I'm here.
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-That was awkward, actually.
-Yeah.
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On the count of three, I want you
to all arrange yourselves in order
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of who you feel is most likely
to be taken advantage of.
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One, two, three, go!
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Fantastic. Now please sit back down.
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-Uh, I have a question.
-Sure.
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What if someone were to,
I don't know,
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say, grab your ass or your crotch?
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Would I report that
as sexual harassment, or…
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Or what?
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Or would I correctly interpret that
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as someone having
extremely strong feelings for me?
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I wouldn't have thought so, no.
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Really?
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Then why is that person going around,
grabbing people's crotches?
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I guess because it makes them
feel powerful,
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especially when they know that
no one will ever believe the other party.
324
00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,520
What? Why would they do that?
I mean, that's totally fucked up.
325
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I know, but sadly, it's what
the science shows us again and again.
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Okay, for those of you who don't know
what's going on here,
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Hilary grabbed my crotch
and my tush earlier…
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multiple times.
329
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So, now might be a good time to look at
how best to deal with false accusations.
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What?
331
00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,400
-Mary, do you mind joining us, please?
-Wait, wait.
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Hold on, this is bullshit! She's lying!
333
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So, Jerry, what I want you to do
is just demonstrate
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what you believe happened
as part of a role play.
335
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Fine. On you, or… or Mary?
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[both] On Mary.
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00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,920
Uh, nah… Mm, no, no.
338
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No, no. I… No. I'm not falling for this.
It might be a trap.
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-Mary, is it a trap?
-I don't think so.
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No one's ever called it that before.
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00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,760
-What if it were the other way round?
-What, like, I grab her ass?
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00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:07,040
What if she were to grab you?
343
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,200
-Now?
-No!
344
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-Whenever you're ready.
-Mary, what the fuck?
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Isn't someone going to say something?
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00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,599
Sorry, are we still in the role play?
347
00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:15,720
-No!
-Yes.
348
00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,000
-I'm really confused.
-Great. Are we done?
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-Mary, thank you.
-What… Are you all just gonna sit there?
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-Chris!
-I'm sorry, I was miles away.
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And what Jerry's doing here
is pretending to object…
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-No, I'm not!
-Oh, that's really clever.
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00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,480
Why would I do that?
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To demonstrate what happens
when someone cries wolf.
355
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I'm not… I'm not crying wolf, okay?
It really happened.
356
00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,000
That's exactly what the boy said.
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-I'm being serious this time!
-He said that, too.
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00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,800
Oh, I get it. So you and Hilary
are in cahoots?
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-Yes.
-What? No!
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Wonderful. A happy finish.
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And of course the sad thing
about a false accusation is,
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not only does it make
the individual look stupid,
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but it also undermines those cases
364
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where someone has genuinely been harassed.
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00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,160
I have been harassed!
366
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,840
Okay, Joseph, when I came back in here,
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-what's the first thing I said to you?
-"Move up."
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00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,360
-No, after that.
-That you think she's really into you?
369
00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,560
-No, not that.
-That you've got syphilis?
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00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,760
Yeah. No! What?
371
00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,000
Is that what you said?
I must have misheard.
372
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,840
No, no! Okay, I'm starting to think
that you guys are all in on this.
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00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,080
Well, it is common for men like you
to try and play the victim.
374
00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,280
Whoa, whoa.
Did you just say "men like me"?
375
00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:28,680
Wait. You don't think "men like me"
can get harassed?
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00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,560
Well, then you don't know about
the time--
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00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,040
-And we're out of it. [snaps fingers]
-Fantastic.
378
00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:35,200
Wait. No, no. You can't just do that!
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-And we're back in! [snaps fingers]
-Time's up, I'm afraid, Jerry.
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00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,120
Okay. Oh. No.
You know what? No, you were right.
381
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You do have syphilis?
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00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,400
No, I mean we're in cahoots.
383
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,240
-Oh!
-Hilary and I have been
384
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,800
in cahoots the whole time.
385
00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,080
This whole thing has been planned.
386
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,280
Her grabbing my junk was planned,
387
00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:55,120
her grabbing my back thingy
was planned.
388
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,720
This… this was planned, right there,
that's planned, yeah.
389
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,320
And this. This was planned!
390
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,160
And this is planned!
391
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,160
And this is planned!
392
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,320
And we're out of it. [snaps fingers]
393
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,920
No! Wha… what? Hi. Yes.
394
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,040
Just so you know,
I won't be pressing charges.
395
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,920
Thank you. Me neither.
396
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,960
I just have to attend
a three-day anti-harassment course.
397
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,640
Yes. Me, too.
398
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,520
-See you there!
-Oh…
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♪ Hurray, hurray, hurray
Misery's on the way ♪
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♪ There are bad times
Just around the corner ♪
401
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♪ There are dark clouds
Hurtling through the sky ♪
402
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,880
♪ It's as clear as crystal
From Bridlington to Bristol ♪
403
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♪ That we can't save democracy
And we don't much care ♪
404
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,040
♪ We'd better all learn the lyrics
Of the old "Red Flag" ♪
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♪ And wait until we drop down dead ♪
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