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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:52,636 --> 00:00:54,889 Do you still get the same buzz out of it Frank? 2 00:00:54,972 --> 00:00:55,973 Absolutely. 3 00:00:56,056 --> 00:01:00,357 Truth is I love it, the Formula 1 stuff, the real stuff, 4 00:01:00,435 --> 00:01:02,984 the speed they're going through the corners, 5 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:06,567 it's super men so I really believe these guys meta morph 6 00:01:06,650 --> 00:01:08,493 when they get into the cockpit you know. 7 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:12,574 They're immensely quick, and the grip round the corners 8 00:01:12,656 --> 00:01:13,532 is just astonishing. 9 00:01:51,278 --> 00:01:54,327 If you're a pilot flying a jet, 10 00:01:54,406 --> 00:01:56,704 that's wonderful work isn't it? Why? 11 00:01:56,742 --> 00:01:59,416 Because I'm flying supersonic, twice supersonic. 12 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:06,089 It blows my mind, the speeds at which they can control these cars. 13 00:02:08,670 --> 00:02:12,220 What was it, Top Gun, what did Mav say to Goose? 14 00:02:12,299 --> 00:02:15,849 He said “I feel the need, the need for speed", 15 00:02:15,927 --> 00:02:17,725 I've never forgotten that. 16 00:02:17,804 --> 00:02:19,490 - And you've always had that? - Sorry? 17 00:02:19,514 --> 00:02:20,908 You've always had that? 18 00:02:20,932 --> 00:02:22,243 Well I've always been a little boy for a start, 19 00:02:22,267 --> 00:02:24,440 always enjoyed speed too. 20 00:02:24,519 --> 00:02:26,738 That's why I finished up in a chair, going too fast. 21 00:02:31,109 --> 00:02:32,795 We didn't sit round the table as a family 22 00:02:32,819 --> 00:02:35,006 and discuss it and go this is how we're gonna deal with it 23 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:36,657 or you know mum needs some counselling, 24 00:02:36,740 --> 00:02:40,540 the kids need counselling, dad needs counselling to get through it. 25 00:02:40,619 --> 00:02:44,795 We've never talked about it as a family, dad's accident, ever. 26 00:03:11,108 --> 00:03:13,782 If it wasn't for Mum I personally don't think. 27 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:16,704 Williams would necessarily be around. 28 00:03:16,780 --> 00:03:21,331 I'm a really firm believer in Williams is not just always about Dad, 29 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:22,957 it's as much about Mum, 30 00:03:23,036 --> 00:03:28,088 she stood by him through thick and thin, I mean she saved his life. 31 00:04:32,564 --> 00:04:34,566 Williams is unique now 32 00:04:34,649 --> 00:04:37,823 in that it is the last of the old style teams 33 00:04:37,861 --> 00:04:41,491 where the team owners all had their name over the door 34 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:43,325 and Williams is the only one left. 35 00:04:45,327 --> 00:04:47,054 Frank's very rare at interviews nowadays 36 00:04:47,078 --> 00:04:49,126 so he doesn't seem as approachable or accessible 37 00:04:49,206 --> 00:04:50,583 from a, from a fan on the street. 38 00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:52,542 Whether we see enough of him nowadays 39 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:54,799 and whether that's because of his health... 40 00:04:54,878 --> 00:04:55,800 We didn't see him this weekend, 41 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:57,973 we saw Claire Williams knocking about on Friday. 42 00:04:58,048 --> 00:05:00,426 She's a great face on the TV as well, 43 00:05:00,509 --> 00:05:02,352 where, you know being interviewed and the like, 44 00:05:02,427 --> 00:05:05,431 it's interesting to have a lady as Principal as well. 45 00:05:14,773 --> 00:05:17,151 I think I may have had like the odd grand dream 46 00:05:17,234 --> 00:05:21,114 but I never thought I would be given the keys to the shop ever, ever, ever. 47 00:05:22,531 --> 00:05:25,501 I think a bit of it's because I'm a girl and you know 48 00:05:25,575 --> 00:05:28,044 I can't possibly understand anything about a car 49 00:05:28,119 --> 00:05:30,542 and you know it's Dad's train set 50 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:33,049 and he doesn't wanna hand it over to anybody else. 51 00:05:33,124 --> 00:05:34,764 The Marussia of Will Stevens 52 00:05:34,793 --> 00:05:37,216 gets out the way of Valtteri Bottas and Max Verstappen 53 00:05:37,295 --> 00:05:39,514 but Verstappen's all over the back of that Williams. 54 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:42,485 What about Williams? Where do you reckon 55 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:43,761 Williams will place today? 56 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:49,271 Uh... might get a point. One of the top ten maybe. 57 00:05:49,349 --> 00:05:51,244 Do you think they're contenders anymore? 58 00:05:51,268 --> 00:05:54,397 No, no. Definitely not this year. No chance. 59 00:05:58,525 --> 00:06:00,823 But Jacques, you were the last driver 60 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:03,614 to win a World Championship for Williams. 61 00:06:03,697 --> 00:06:04,897 Yeah that's true, that's true. 62 00:06:04,948 --> 00:06:10,500 - How long ago was that? - Uh... '97 so 20 years ago. 63 00:06:10,579 --> 00:06:12,172 - Yes. - Long time. 64 00:06:12,247 --> 00:06:14,045 Too long really, yeah. 65 00:06:14,124 --> 00:06:17,719 In comes Bottas, goes for another set, 66 00:06:17,794 --> 00:06:19,730 he's just given up, there's nothing they can do really 67 00:06:19,754 --> 00:06:21,973 and I'm afraid that Williams are gonna come away 68 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:24,642 from Monaco with nothing. 69 00:06:27,512 --> 00:06:28,934 It's really frustrating, 70 00:06:29,014 --> 00:06:33,064 it literally is banging your head against a brick wall, what do we have to do? 71 00:06:33,101 --> 00:06:35,399 You know I have to walk around with my head held high 72 00:06:35,478 --> 00:06:39,733 and I want to be able to do that um and I don't feel that I can at the moment. 73 00:06:39,816 --> 00:06:42,990 Do you think Frank feels it as acutely as you do now? 74 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:45,322 I'm sure he does, he's trusted in me 75 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:48,659 and I don't want him to ever doubt that trust that he's put in me. 76 00:06:49,951 --> 00:06:52,170 Do you ever doubt it yourself or... 77 00:06:52,245 --> 00:06:58,002 Um not right now no, I've got a lot of fight in me left. 78 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:02,260 Claire is a tough piece of work, 79 00:07:02,339 --> 00:07:05,388 whatever she sets out to do she always achieves it, 80 00:07:05,467 --> 00:07:07,720 she's a bit like her mother, her mother was like that, 81 00:07:07,802 --> 00:07:10,225 didn't make a lot of fuss, just did things. 82 00:07:14,684 --> 00:07:17,187 I love this time of the year with the Autumn coming. 83 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:19,443 These are my mum's blossom trees that we planted. 84 00:07:19,522 --> 00:07:21,524 They look a bit dead now. 85 00:07:21,608 --> 00:07:23,986 These were the ones that we planted on her, 86 00:07:24,069 --> 00:07:27,118 the anniversary, two year anniversary of her passing. 87 00:07:27,197 --> 00:07:30,997 I wanted something here that I could come to and chat to. 88 00:07:31,076 --> 00:07:33,625 - And do you do that? - Yeah I do, a lot. 89 00:07:36,915 --> 00:07:40,340 I come and ask her why we can't fix our um, 90 00:07:40,418 --> 00:07:44,423 the wheel nuts on our pit stops and pray to her that 91 00:07:44,506 --> 00:07:46,304 she might help the guys in R&D 92 00:07:46,341 --> 00:07:48,469 that have been working so hard on them. 93 00:07:51,554 --> 00:07:52,554 Right. 94 00:07:54,849 --> 00:07:56,977 I've got a whole box of press clippings in there 95 00:07:57,060 --> 00:07:59,563 from when I was made Deputy Team Principal. 96 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:01,865 I thought I would frame them and put them up 97 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:05,820 and be all proud of myself, but now they've just ended up in the shed. 98 00:08:15,161 --> 00:08:17,664 This is a lovely picture from when we won 99 00:08:17,747 --> 00:08:19,499 the race in Barcelona with Pastor. 100 00:08:19,541 --> 00:08:21,760 Was this the last time you won a race? 101 00:08:21,835 --> 00:08:24,634 Last time we won a race, Barcelona 2012. 102 00:08:24,713 --> 00:08:27,341 So there's another picture of dad, someone sent that to me, 103 00:08:27,424 --> 00:08:32,851 it's amazing, him lifting two wheel nuts, how buff was my dad? It's amazing. 104 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:36,775 It's was phenomenal how fit he was before his accident. 105 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:41,447 Oh this is an awful article that came out when mum did an extract from her book. 106 00:08:43,565 --> 00:08:44,583 After the accident, 107 00:08:44,607 --> 00:08:46,951 I think Ginny was on the edge of a nervous breakdown 108 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:49,746 and she found communication, 109 00:08:49,779 --> 00:08:51,873 on an emotional level, very difficult with Frank, 110 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:53,245 Frank didn't do emotion 111 00:08:53,324 --> 00:08:55,747 and she perhaps felt that 112 00:08:55,827 --> 00:09:01,459 a book might be one way of getting the story across to him. 113 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:10,934 "I'm not usually given to making New Year's resolutions" 114 00:09:11,009 --> 00:09:15,185 but at the end of 1988 I decided that I would spend the following year 115 00:09:15,221 --> 00:09:18,065 setting down everything that has happened to Frank and me 116 00:09:18,099 --> 00:09:19,521 "in the last two decades." 117 00:09:26,733 --> 00:09:28,531 Yes. 118 00:09:35,992 --> 00:09:42,170 These are the little micro tapes that, they took about 6 hours of conversation. 119 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:47,714 That goes in... there. 120 00:10:03,895 --> 00:10:05,873 How long is it since you listened to these? 121 00:10:05,897 --> 00:10:09,572 Probably not since I first transcribed them, which, so it is, 122 00:10:09,651 --> 00:10:13,781 it's 25 years ago and I mean she sounds so alive today, 123 00:10:13,822 --> 00:10:16,871 25 years later I can relieve that conversation. 124 00:10:18,743 --> 00:10:22,418 I feel very sad that she's not here anymore. 125 00:10:35,093 --> 00:10:36,320 - Hello Pamela. - Hello... 126 00:10:36,344 --> 00:10:37,863 - How are you? - No need to ask who you are. 127 00:10:37,887 --> 00:10:40,060 I feel I should hug you or kiss you or something. 128 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:42,108 - Oh! - I feel I know you so well already. 129 00:10:42,183 --> 00:10:44,537 Well looking at you... I feel I know you so, really yes. 130 00:10:44,561 --> 00:10:45,437 Is it a bit weird. 131 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,720 - It is weird yes. - Really? Do I look like mum? 132 00:10:47,772 --> 00:10:49,820 You do. 133 00:10:50,733 --> 00:10:52,373 It was so weird because I didn't, 134 00:10:52,402 --> 00:10:54,325 she obviously didn't tell anyone in the family, 135 00:10:54,404 --> 00:10:57,658 but there was all this kind of quite suspicious behaviour going on, 136 00:10:57,740 --> 00:11:01,119 kind of sneaking out or you know I find the Dictaphone in her glove box. 137 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:03,722 I was convinced she was having an affair and confronted her with it 138 00:11:03,746 --> 00:11:06,670 and she still didn't tell me that that's what she was doing. 139 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,242 She actually met Frank 140 00:11:41,326 --> 00:11:44,375 about three months before she was due to get married 141 00:11:44,454 --> 00:11:47,207 and that her fiancé introduced her to Frank 142 00:11:47,290 --> 00:11:50,260 and there was an instant sort of electric connection 143 00:11:50,335 --> 00:11:52,178 between her and Frank, 144 00:11:52,253 --> 00:11:54,722 she was only, I think 20, she was very young 145 00:11:54,797 --> 00:11:56,219 and she thought, “What can I do? 146 00:11:56,299 --> 00:11:59,519 "The flowers are ordered, the wedding oh..." 147 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:24,332 Well she was blonde, blue eyes, beautiful thick head of hair, 148 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:27,505 beautiful manners, beautiful clothes, came from quite a wealthy background. 149 00:12:28,665 --> 00:12:31,259 She had this lovely way of speaking. 150 00:12:31,334 --> 00:12:32,460 Great sense of humour. 151 00:12:32,543 --> 00:12:35,137 And she loved motor racing, she understood motor racing. 152 00:12:35,213 --> 00:12:37,591 She had a very good feel for racing drivers. 153 00:12:39,550 --> 00:12:41,528 Frank probably thought you're not gonna believe it, 154 00:12:41,552 --> 00:12:43,600 she went to a finishing school in Switzerland, 155 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,980 they've got Labradors in the garden, I've cracked it. 156 00:12:47,058 --> 00:12:49,857 I suspect that's what he told his mates. 157 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:52,189 I mean she was just a fantastic girl to talk to, 158 00:12:52,272 --> 00:12:55,947 it was like talking to a fella, but you know with, wearing Chanel No. 5 159 00:12:56,025 --> 00:12:57,025 it was just brilliant. 160 00:12:57,860 --> 00:13:00,329 But in those days, to back out of a marriage 161 00:13:00,405 --> 00:13:03,409 or a looming wedding was almost impossible to do, 162 00:13:03,491 --> 00:13:05,664 you know invitations had gone out and stuff like that 163 00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:11,546 and it would've been very tough for her to, to pull the plug on it. 164 00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:13,102 Anyway she went through with the wedding 165 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:16,175 but this attraction didn't go away. 166 00:13:16,254 --> 00:13:19,098 It was the charm, it was the Frank William's charm I think, 167 00:13:19,173 --> 00:13:24,896 that smile and the big green eyes and mum just went loony. 168 00:13:25,722 --> 00:13:27,116 You know, I remember going to cross a road 169 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:28,858 and she's sitting in a Mini car, 170 00:13:28,933 --> 00:13:30,035 I said, “What you doing here?” 171 00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:32,061 "She said “Brode, don't say anything to anybody" 172 00:13:32,145 --> 00:13:35,991 and she had a flask and sandwiches and she'd been sitting there from nine o'clock 173 00:13:36,065 --> 00:13:38,989 hoping Frank would go across the road and buy a paper at the newsagents 174 00:13:39,068 --> 00:13:40,170 and she could get out and say. 175 00:13:40,194 --> 00:13:43,164 "Oh Frank, fancy bumping into you here" 176 00:13:43,239 --> 00:13:46,083 and she didn't do it once, she did it all week. 177 00:14:14,103 --> 00:14:18,233 It was a real magical world, the world Frank started racing, 178 00:14:18,316 --> 00:14:21,866 it was this, you know, boys club and I think Frank, 179 00:14:21,944 --> 00:14:24,447 he loved being a part of it, and maybe because 180 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:27,784 he hadn't been a part of a, a gang, a group 181 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:30,120 when he was you know in his childhood. 182 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:47,561 My father left, he was a bomber pilot, left my mother. 183 00:14:47,637 --> 00:14:49,480 My mother brought me up. 184 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:52,149 She did bring me up pretty much single-handedly. 185 00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:55,229 They lived in Jarrow in South Shields, 186 00:14:55,311 --> 00:14:57,029 that was a difficult environment, 187 00:14:57,105 --> 00:15:02,362 difficult to make your way out of and my grandma made the choice, 188 00:15:02,443 --> 00:15:06,368 she would sacrifice the normal home environment 189 00:15:06,447 --> 00:15:09,166 in order to try and give dad a better chance in life 190 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:10,869 by giving him this education. 191 00:15:14,163 --> 00:15:16,211 My first memories were being sent to 192 00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:20,170 a Roman Catholic convent, I was about, just coming up for five 193 00:15:20,253 --> 00:15:21,939 and I used to run away at the railway station 194 00:15:21,963 --> 00:15:23,690 and they used to ring up and say he's here again, 195 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:25,261 please stop this happening again, 196 00:15:25,299 --> 00:15:27,444 whenever I got back, the school they took my little trousers down 197 00:15:27,468 --> 00:15:29,937 and hit me with a, a coat hanger. 198 00:15:31,222 --> 00:15:33,850 I didn't mind, I was quite happy at the school. 199 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:36,578 - You were happy at school? - I was happy at the school, yes. 200 00:15:36,602 --> 00:15:37,955 So, and why did you run away then? 201 00:15:37,979 --> 00:15:40,232 Uh... because I wasn't that happy. 202 00:15:40,314 --> 00:15:44,194 No, but it was, I also loved trains, I love trains and movement, 203 00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:45,957 I was always trying to get a ride in a car, 204 00:15:45,987 --> 00:15:47,881 you know when someone's dad turned up with a car, 205 00:15:47,905 --> 00:15:48,747 I was all over the car 206 00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:50,843 and sometimes they gave me a ride up and down the road in it. 207 00:15:50,867 --> 00:15:52,619 I was, I was nuts about cars by then. 208 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:06,316 I did qualify for uni but I had no interest, 209 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:09,640 because I was uh... in a convent for three years, one year at a day school, 210 00:16:09,719 --> 00:16:11,596 then another nine years locked up as well, 211 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:13,306 I was kind of keen on freedom. 212 00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:20,905 I'd bought for £80 a racing A35, 213 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:23,733 it was a hot little ship I can tell you, very quick car 214 00:16:24,901 --> 00:16:27,199 and that's how I got into motor racing proper. 215 00:16:28,362 --> 00:16:31,457 He was totally obsessed by motor racing. 216 00:16:31,532 --> 00:16:34,957 I mean, to a degree that was ridiculous. Ridiculous. 217 00:16:35,036 --> 00:16:36,036 Nothing else mattered. 218 00:16:36,078 --> 00:16:39,048 I don't think he's ever been in a supermarket in his life. 219 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:50,444 Frank, when he first went there, 220 00:16:50,468 --> 00:16:52,362 there wasn't any room for him so he slept in the lock ups 221 00:16:52,386 --> 00:16:55,265 down the side there in a sleeping bag. 222 00:16:57,642 --> 00:16:58,985 Everybody had a nickname. 223 00:16:59,060 --> 00:17:02,985 Roger Bunting was Bunt, Charles Lucas was Charlie Luke, 224 00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:07,823 Piers Courage was called Porridge, and Franks was called Wanks. 225 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:11,831 Ah is Wanks around? No he'll be in later. 226 00:17:11,906 --> 00:17:12,748 Oh okay. 227 00:17:12,782 --> 00:17:16,457 They were all aristocratic, wealthy guys 228 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:20,632 who wanted to go motor racing and Frank was mixing with them. 229 00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:22,674 And he wasn't either aristocratic or wealthy. 230 00:17:31,259 --> 00:17:33,659 Well, all the other guys that live in that flat 231 00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:38,065 had hereditary incomes. Frank didn't, nor did I, 232 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:39,642 so Frank had to earn some money. 233 00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:43,229 So the way he earned money was to buy and sell parts. 234 00:17:43,312 --> 00:17:46,566 And every waking moment he was chasing around the country 235 00:17:46,649 --> 00:17:49,493 buying stuff for a pound and selling it for 2 pound. 236 00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:52,664 He called himself Frank Williams Racing Cars in the end. 237 00:17:52,738 --> 00:17:54,285 The motivation behind the organisers 238 00:17:54,365 --> 00:17:57,960 wanting certain drivers was that in France they had to have Matre, 239 00:17:58,035 --> 00:18:01,005 they had to have Beltoise and Servoz-Gavin starting. 240 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,333 Italy had to have a Ferrari on the grid. 241 00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,919 And I guess England particularly wanted to be RM. 242 00:18:06,002 --> 00:18:09,927 He seemed to me to be the ultimate wheeler dealer. 243 00:18:10,006 --> 00:18:12,555 And then he expanded and expanded and pretty soon 244 00:18:12,633 --> 00:18:18,185 he was selling a lot of cars to European drivers particularly in Italy. 245 00:18:18,222 --> 00:18:21,271 So Frank would get a phone call from an Italian customer. 246 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:22,786 “Hey Franks, what are you gonna give me 247 00:18:22,810 --> 00:18:24,312 "for my car I need a new Brabham?" 248 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:27,615 “I'll give you X for it." “Okay, I'll come and get it." 249 00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:29,317 He's got an order from the same customer 250 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,198 for a brand new car. 251 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:33,154 He'd then take that car apart, 252 00:18:33,237 --> 00:18:35,535 repaint it, re-electroplate it, re-polish it 253 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:40,621 and it would be, 3 months later, a totally immaculate brand new looking car 254 00:18:40,661 --> 00:18:44,541 with a brand new chassis number that he got out the back door at Brabham. 255 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:46,584 The guy would then get the car back 256 00:18:46,667 --> 00:18:49,546 and what he actually got back was the original car. 257 00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:55,389 I know one guy had the same car for at least 3 years 258 00:18:55,468 --> 00:18:58,096 but he thought he got a new car every year. 259 00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:11,325 Ginny had grown up in a very sheltered environment 260 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,280 and suddenly there was this man who didn't go by the rules 261 00:19:15,363 --> 00:19:16,990 and he was very exciting. 262 00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:24,626 We'd go to parties on a Saturday night 263 00:19:24,705 --> 00:19:29,006 and Frank's dancing with Ginny and it's getting obscene 264 00:19:29,085 --> 00:19:32,589 and her husband has got daggers coming out of his eyes 265 00:19:32,672 --> 00:19:36,176 "and I walked up to Frank and I said “Frank, what the fuck are you doing?" 266 00:19:36,258 --> 00:19:38,306 I said you can't be doing this, have a normal dance, 267 00:19:38,386 --> 00:19:42,391 I mean you know the only thing he wasn't doing was having sex, 268 00:19:42,473 --> 00:19:46,228 and Frank said, “Oh I hadn't noticed" and Ginny said, “Well I certainly hadn't" 269 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:48,688 but everybody else had. 270 00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:52,571 And then of course the show was on the road then with them two. 271 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:54,027 And she moved into a flat 272 00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:59,082 and then she thought, “How do I let Frank know that I'm here? 273 00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:04,913 Because I mustn't let him know that I, left my first husband because of him, 274 00:20:04,995 --> 00:20:06,014 "that would scare him off." 275 00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:10,509 So he didn't drink but what he loved was fresh orange juice, 276 00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:12,632 so she wrote a letter, 277 00:20:12,712 --> 00:20:15,841 'if you fancy some fresh orange juice, it's now being served at... ', 278 00:20:15,923 --> 00:20:18,642 and she put her new address and a day or two later 279 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:19,861 the doorbell rang 280 00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:21,512 and he turned up at the door. 281 00:20:21,595 --> 00:20:22,781 Looking for some orange juice? 282 00:20:22,805 --> 00:20:26,605 Looking for some orange juice, obviously. 283 00:20:28,644 --> 00:20:29,955 And they're away... 284 00:20:29,979 --> 00:20:31,957 I saw Frank Williams make a very good start from the back, 285 00:20:31,981 --> 00:20:34,450 he's now in third place from about the third row of the grid, 286 00:20:34,525 --> 00:20:35,617 that's very good indeed. 287 00:20:36,694 --> 00:20:37,879 Back then his whole thing 288 00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:39,871 was to be the greatest racing driver in the world. 289 00:20:40,948 --> 00:20:42,592 ..who's the yellow car sneaking through there? 290 00:20:42,616 --> 00:20:43,458 Frank Williams. 291 00:20:43,534 --> 00:20:45,095 It's Frank, look at him sneaking, 292 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,372 what a battle with these two saloons. My word... 293 00:20:47,455 --> 00:20:49,457 He was racing saloon cars, 294 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:50,507 but for some reason, 295 00:20:50,541 --> 00:20:51,685 he never had an in built limit, 296 00:20:51,709 --> 00:20:53,395 he would just go faster and faster and faster 297 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:54,420 and fly off the circuit. 298 00:20:54,462 --> 00:20:57,182 - And who's off there? - Frank Williams. 299 00:20:57,214 --> 00:20:58,817 Frank Williams trying too hard, 300 00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:02,891 Frank always very fast but very hairy and he's living up to it. 301 00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:05,018 When I started doing uh... Formula 3 302 00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:07,600 sometimes I would encounter people who would say to me 303 00:21:07,683 --> 00:21:09,310 do you know that chap Frank Williams? 304 00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:12,363 Yeah, I know Frank Williams, oh, he's so fast and he, 305 00:21:12,438 --> 00:21:14,440 and he crashed here and he overtook here 306 00:21:14,523 --> 00:21:15,775 and he did all kinds of things. 307 00:21:15,858 --> 00:21:20,159 So Frank had this amazing reputation as someone who was lightning fast, 308 00:21:20,237 --> 00:21:22,114 not always staying on the road. 309 00:21:23,157 --> 00:21:24,926 There were a lot of races, he would've won, 310 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:27,078 but he ended up spinning the car and having accidents, 311 00:21:27,161 --> 00:21:28,003 he just didn't have a limit 312 00:21:28,078 --> 00:21:30,376 and that extended to his road driving as well. 313 00:21:30,456 --> 00:21:33,175 - Well what was that like? - Diabolical. 314 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,093 Where did you learn to drive? 315 00:21:38,172 --> 00:21:40,925 In my mother's Morris 1000, 316 00:21:41,008 --> 00:21:43,636 she was very reluctant to lend it to me, 317 00:21:43,719 --> 00:21:46,563 and she was right because in the end I did roll it on its roof. 318 00:21:46,639 --> 00:21:48,408 But you rolled a few cars in your time. 319 00:21:48,432 --> 00:21:50,025 Not that many, no. 320 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,745 Well it's just that every time we talk about a car 321 00:21:51,769 --> 00:21:53,737 it seems to be one that you've rolled. 322 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:55,916 Well I haven't talked about that many cars though have I? 323 00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:58,864 But didn't you, what was your first racing car'? 324 00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:00,945 - A35. - What happened to that? 325 00:22:01,028 --> 00:22:02,348 That got rolled. 326 00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:07,626 He was nothing but competitive, against himself in a road car, 327 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:09,971 it was almost at the point, where he would start a stopwatch to see 328 00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:13,169 if he could beat his previous time from A to B. 329 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:36,832 And I think it dawned on him that 330 00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:38,403 pretty soon he was gonna hurt himself, 331 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:43,659 you can't have that many accidents on the road and in the, on race tracks, 332 00:22:43,737 --> 00:22:45,799 you know you end up hurting yourself, especially back then 333 00:22:45,823 --> 00:22:47,325 when the cars were lethal. 334 00:22:55,291 --> 00:22:57,419 What got me into Formula 1 was only the fact 335 00:22:57,459 --> 00:23:02,340 that after two or three years of racing rather dangerously around the continent 336 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:05,351 it became apparent that I might have lots of uh... courage 337 00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:07,349 but nothing like enough skill to go with it. 338 00:23:07,428 --> 00:23:11,308 At the same time I became very friendly with a young man called Piers Courage 339 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,643 who was a brilliant driver. 340 00:23:13,726 --> 00:23:15,728 And the opportunity came for Frank 341 00:23:15,811 --> 00:23:20,317 to build a Formula 1 car and Piers agreed to drive it. 342 00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:24,575 And then Piers and I set off in 1969. 343 00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:32,832 Piers Courage was an ebullient, 344 00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:35,256 fashionable Formula 1 driver 345 00:23:35,331 --> 00:23:38,881 that captured the imagination of everybody who loved Formula 1 346 00:23:38,959 --> 00:23:43,214 and Piers was just, Frank's idea of what a Grand Prix driver should be like. 347 00:23:44,214 --> 00:23:47,684 He was just bouncy, easily charming, 348 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,434 had a beautiful wife whom half of London was chasing. 349 00:23:50,512 --> 00:23:52,282 Apart from being a great looking fella, 350 00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:54,400 never had a hair or a piece of clothes out of place, 351 00:23:54,475 --> 00:23:56,523 he was always the smartest guy, 352 00:23:56,602 --> 00:24:01,779 buttoned down blazer, grey flannels, Gucci shoes, he looked almost holy. 353 00:24:01,857 --> 00:24:02,918 And I remember him making a speech, 354 00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:05,741 he had a slight sort of English public school stammer 355 00:24:05,819 --> 00:24:07,867 and I remember the interviewer saying “So Piers, 356 00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:09,620 "how's your car gonna go this weekend?" 357 00:24:09,698 --> 00:24:12,618 "And he said, “Well I think it'll go like an absolute b-b-b bomb actually." 358 00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:19,713 Hoping to go one better than his second placing last year 359 00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:21,635 was Piers Courage in the very promising. 360 00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:23,508 Frank Williams backed De Tomaso. 361 00:24:23,587 --> 00:24:25,635 I remember last year, my right foot 362 00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:27,591 terrific cramp in, cramp in it 363 00:24:27,675 --> 00:24:30,770 and also the great blisters on my hands from the gear changing. 364 00:24:30,844 --> 00:24:34,144 Well I kind of adored Piers in many ways but in those days... 365 00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:36,900 it was "Piers is wonderful, this is my mate." 366 00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:38,148 I thought the world of him. 367 00:24:43,107 --> 00:24:45,735 Piers and Frank were great together, 368 00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:48,913 they were almost made for each other I think, 369 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:51,958 you had Piers who was really developing as a driver 370 00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:56,003 and Frank was really developing as a team owner, constructor. 371 00:24:58,539 --> 00:25:01,463 Second place at Monte Carlo, can you believe that? 372 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,798 Second place the US Grand Prix, can you believe that? 373 00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:05,925 5th at Silverstone, a great run. 374 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,686 Everybody wanted to be a racing driver and Piers was on his way, 375 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,808 he'd beaten Jackie Stewart and Jim Clark 376 00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:16,686 and he was a really, really good driver. 377 00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:22,693 ♪ Lark Ascending J' ♪ Vaughan Williams ♪ 378 00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:33,537 And suddenly he dies in this horrendous accident in Frank's car. 379 00:25:37,619 --> 00:25:39,747 I was in the race 380 00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:46,384 and it was a terrible accident involving us knowing that it was Piers 381 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:48,673 that had the accident because his helmet came off. 382 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,864 And when you heard the news, 383 00:25:55,888 --> 00:25:58,107 how did you hear the news? 384 00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:01,861 Well it was, all I will say is that it was a major shock, 385 00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:04,984 I was very young, you don't expect a shock like that 386 00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:06,750 and I remembered, I went to the race organiser, 387 00:26:06,774 --> 00:26:09,744 a man called John Corschmidt 388 00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:13,698 and I said, “John, just tell me is Piers dead? 389 00:26:13,781 --> 00:26:15,533 "Are you sure he's dead?" 390 00:26:15,616 --> 00:26:18,290 And he said I'm sure and I said tell me that again, 391 00:26:18,368 --> 00:26:21,588 he told me, “He is dead Frank", three times, I said "OK" 392 00:26:21,622 --> 00:26:25,126 and I got up and I had the job of telling his wife, Piers' wife, 393 00:26:25,209 --> 00:26:27,007 and I'd rather not talk about that. 394 00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:36,224 His wife, Sally, was in a terrible state. 395 00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:42,064 Wives in motor racing I think have had a much tougher life than any driver has. 396 00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:47,110 And I remember going to the funeral and Frank was fantastic, 397 00:26:47,189 --> 00:26:50,068 he stood at the entrance of the church and welcomed everybody in, 398 00:26:50,150 --> 00:26:51,743 and there were a lot of people, 399 00:26:51,819 --> 00:26:54,197 shook hands with everybody, thanked them for coming. 400 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,828 And then after the ceremony we couldn't find him 401 00:26:56,907 --> 00:26:59,376 and I walked back into the church, it was deserted 402 00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:04,753 and Frank was standing behind a big stone pillar, absolutely destroyed, 403 00:27:04,832 --> 00:27:07,335 standing there weeping his heart out 404 00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:10,261 "and I said “Come on love, let's go home." 405 00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:13,637 And it was like that happy-go-lucky scene we had, 406 00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:15,638 just dissolved like that. 407 00:27:18,804 --> 00:27:21,148 But I know that, you know, it wasn't really mentioned in, 408 00:27:21,223 --> 00:27:23,851 Piers wasn't mentioned terribly much at home, 409 00:27:23,934 --> 00:27:27,029 I'm not sure dad ever, I'm not sure how you would get over 410 00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:29,235 a driver dying in your car. 411 00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:35,079 This ability of Frank to carry on, 412 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:39,534 for me ifs fairly standard in motor racing, knowing racing people, 413 00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:44,042 most of them only think of tomorrow, very rarely do they look back 414 00:27:44,121 --> 00:27:48,547 and very rarely do they allow emotion to come into their motivation. 415 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:52,564 There was a very high mortality rate, 416 00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:54,056 stupidly high 417 00:27:54,131 --> 00:27:57,305 and it was just accepted that you probably weren't gonna survive, 418 00:27:57,342 --> 00:28:01,142 I personally did not think I would survive my Formula 1 career 419 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,557 and the odds weren't very good. 420 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:07,440 On the second lap, disaster strikes, 421 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:11,444 Von Trips loses control but the race goes on. 422 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,788 Those cars were effectively death traps, 423 00:28:17,863 --> 00:28:19,090 if you had a head-on in one of those 424 00:28:19,114 --> 00:28:20,991 they folded up round you like an envelope, 425 00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:22,166 You didn't get out of them. 426 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,542 The cars so readily caught fire, 427 00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:29,049 the fuel systems in a minor impact 428 00:28:29,124 --> 00:28:32,719 nearly always sprung a leak and the fires were the thing. 429 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:38,805 We had a series of deaths, 430 00:28:38,884 --> 00:28:44,607 one each weekend for four consecutive weekends, four of our friends died. 431 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:52,611 The ethos of Formula 1 was back then, this happens, 432 00:28:52,689 --> 00:28:55,943 ifs appalling but we, you know, we're going to the next race, 433 00:28:56,026 --> 00:28:58,199 like falling off a horse, you climb back on again. 434 00:29:08,121 --> 00:29:09,589 So this is an article, gosh, 435 00:29:09,665 --> 00:29:12,259 dad did an interview with The Times after Ayrton died. 436 00:29:14,211 --> 00:29:15,855 'Formula 1, one of the most powerful figures 437 00:29:15,879 --> 00:29:17,096 in Formula 1 bares his soul 438 00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:20,551 on his star driver's death and the revival of his team.' 439 00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:25,560 Dad says, “It hasn't all sunk in yet, you see, the fact of Ayrton's death, 440 00:29:25,639 --> 00:29:28,688 the same slowness of thought helped me get over my own accident, 441 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:32,567 "I suppose that is why I'm so calm about expressing the fact that he's dead." 442 00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,875 The former world motor racing champion, 443 00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:38,994 Ayrton Senna, has been pronounced clinically dead. 444 00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:42,664 Senna suffered serious head injuries when his car left the track 445 00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,958 and crashed into a concrete wall. 446 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,793 I remember at Ayrton's memorial service. 447 00:29:49,871 --> 00:29:54,798 Mum said don't you dare cry, she said this is not your time to be sad, 448 00:29:54,876 --> 00:29:56,628 she said this is not your loss. 449 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:03,056 Mum was a very loving lady but she was very much of that mentality, 450 00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:06,514 stiff upper lip, exactly like dad. 451 00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:09,475 I think they both probably thought that emotion was weak. 452 00:30:11,852 --> 00:30:15,322 Well I mean it's not common for men to show emotion, 453 00:30:15,397 --> 00:30:18,822 serious emotion, maybe anger but that's about all, 454 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,403 I mean you should never start crying or any of that stuff. 455 00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:23,381 Never, you should never start crying or...? 456 00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:24,827 We, I was, I was, 457 00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:27,910 I shed a few tears when Piers was killed definitely. 458 00:30:27,993 --> 00:30:30,667 Mm... And when Ayrton, when Ayrton died, 459 00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:32,248 I mean they're my responsibility. 460 00:30:32,331 --> 00:30:34,299 - When Ayrton died? - Yeah sure. 461 00:30:34,374 --> 00:30:36,001 But, er, it was out responsibility, 462 00:30:36,084 --> 00:30:39,634 he was in a racing car operated by us, as was Piers. 463 00:30:39,713 --> 00:30:42,557 Yeah it was a Williams operated car. 464 00:30:42,632 --> 00:30:44,885 And so how did you feel on that day? 465 00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:45,968 Far from well. 466 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:06,090 Here he comes down the outside, 467 00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:08,458 that's a brave place to try and overtake. 468 00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:11,377 Oh mama mia, mama mia, oh they're gonna touch. 469 00:31:11,453 --> 00:31:13,706 Bottas has a line! They hit! They hit! 470 00:31:13,789 --> 00:31:16,668 - And Raikkonen's off this time. - Good, fuck off. 471 00:31:19,086 --> 00:31:23,341 We are operating on a budget of approximately 110 million Sterling a year. 472 00:31:23,423 --> 00:31:26,302 And the likes of Red Bull and Ferrari and Mercedes 473 00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:28,763 are operating on two if not three times that budget. 474 00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:32,145 So from a financial perspective you could call us an underdog, 475 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:34,727 I think that's the, the negative connotation for me 476 00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:38,155 is it gives this sense that Williams are weaker than anyone else, 477 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:42,076 but we're not, we've been through a lot more than a lot of teams on the grid 478 00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:43,697 and we've always come out fighting. 479 00:31:43,777 --> 00:31:47,873 And it's Bottas who finishes in third place, 480 00:31:47,948 --> 00:31:51,669 superb podium for him after the incident with Raikkonen earlier... 481 00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:53,669 Finally, a podium for Williams. 482 00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:56,874 So happy, my heart hasn't stopped going yet, that was quite intense... 483 00:31:58,375 --> 00:32:02,300 Third place from Finland, Valtteri Bottas. 484 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:09,737 And did your mum get to see you in this role? 485 00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:13,766 No she didn't, um which... 486 00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:19,529 you know for me is really sad, it's kind of heart breaking really. 487 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,575 I'm sad about that but Pm more sad that she hasn't seen the team turn around, 488 00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:26,529 because that was what she desperately wanted to see 489 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:28,659 that broke her heart really at the end. 490 00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:59,778 I began to realise that if I do want a wife 491 00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:02,447 that she was the best I was ever likely to find. 492 00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:22,171 Well it wasn't, it wasn't a posh wedding, you know with white stuff everywhere, 493 00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:26,721 it was a, what do you call that thing, a reg, a reg, registry whatever. 494 00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:28,232 - A registry office. - Thank you very much. 495 00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:31,305 I think dad had said that he would son' the registry office out 496 00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:34,513 and never did and would get the rings but he didn't have any money 497 00:33:34,596 --> 00:33:37,145 so Mum had to borrow money from 498 00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:39,981 um Dave Brodie I think it was that bought the ring. 499 00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:42,038 So that's it, I went there quarter of an hour early, 500 00:33:42,062 --> 00:33:44,736 gave them £8.00, never got that back, didn't expect it back. 501 00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:47,317 It was all over in 15 minutes. 502 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,868 Her parents certainly weren't there, 503 00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:53,408 I'm not sure they approved uh... of the match. 504 00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:57,620 Out we went and I said, "Oh this a great day", 505 00:33:57,661 --> 00:34:01,256 let's have a celebration, I'm gonna buy you all a spectacular lunch." 506 00:34:01,331 --> 00:34:03,584 Frank said, “Not me you're not, I'm working” 507 00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,011 and he fucked off, that was it.. 508 00:34:06,086 --> 00:34:08,589 I don't know what man in his right mind 509 00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:11,642 would think that that was OK but you know Dad did, 510 00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:14,469 and Dad went back to work and Mum went to lunch 511 00:34:14,553 --> 00:34:17,181 and probably really didn't think very much of it, 512 00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:18,982 because she was used to it by then. 513 00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:24,480 Dad is a completely different beast to most normal men. 514 00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:29,159 Frank from when I first met him was, 515 00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:31,657 always seemed very fit and athletic 516 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:34,831 and he was forever running, every night was a long run. 517 00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:38,469 He ran every circuit that we were at the race track, 518 00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:41,292 he used to run round it and he felt bad if he didn't, 519 00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:42,811 you know it was like a drug for him. 520 00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:47,503 Frank is very, what would be called focused, 521 00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:49,554 some people could say narrow, 522 00:34:49,629 --> 00:34:53,133 I mean, some people find Frank a bit unusual now 523 00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:58,393 and think it's because of the accident, well it isn't, he was always very unusual. 524 00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,734 In Frank there 's a huge amount of repression, 525 00:35:02,809 --> 00:35:05,028 there's a huge amount of determination. 526 00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:09,737 There's an extraordinary retentive obsessiveness. 527 00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:11,659 I suppose, motor racing people in general 528 00:35:11,735 --> 00:35:15,205 are the most intensely competitive people, I've ever known. 529 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,329 They're not very mature intellectually or culturally 530 00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:22,288 because they neither read nor think uh... very much except about 531 00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:26,500 what they actually do to which they think in an extraordinary degree. 532 00:35:32,047 --> 00:35:37,224 I've never been close to Frank socially. I mean, we've never... 533 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:40,184 I don't, I don't think we've ever been out for dinner together. 534 00:35:40,263 --> 00:35:44,564 He felt that anything that involved socialising 535 00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:47,647 and having a drink or relaxing was actually a waste of time. 536 00:35:59,282 --> 00:36:00,801 “I am addicted to motor racing", 537 00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:02,827 Frank Williams declared uncompromisingly, 538 00:36:02,911 --> 00:36:06,211 motor racing is what matters most in my life and then he goes, 539 00:36:06,289 --> 00:36:08,417 “Well I have a family which I love very much, 540 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,003 but they tend to take second place to the business, 541 00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:13,930 "there's no question about that". 542 00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:18,685 But did you used to do the family holiday type thing? 543 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,977 Never done that, never. 544 00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:23,148 Oh it's too late now anyway, never interested in that. 545 00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:26,818 Oh my god, well this is embarrassing, 546 00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:29,612 Mum wanted a hotel to take the three kids to 547 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:32,532 and family tradition was to have a picture of all of us 548 00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:34,905 on the balcony with Mum, so that's me and Mum there, 549 00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:38,579 so would've been when I was 16, look at me, horrendous. 550 00:36:38,655 --> 00:36:43,786 So in total we went to Marbella with mum 32 times, 32 years. 551 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:45,791 How many times did your dad come? 552 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,373 Never, not once. 553 00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:52,460 And that didn't bother you? No. 554 00:36:52,502 --> 00:36:54,814 Mum always used to tell us, there's no point having your father here 555 00:36:54,838 --> 00:36:56,715 because he would drive us all mad, 556 00:36:56,798 --> 00:36:59,176 so we just used to go down there and we had a lovely time. 557 00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:08,523 Can you get that wheel, fast as you can, the bottom one. 558 00:37:11,604 --> 00:37:13,447 Joe have we got another wheel mounted? 559 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:35,803 Frank endured a lot of piss taking for his efforts 560 00:37:35,879 --> 00:37:38,098 and you know he was the poor northerner 561 00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:40,471 that didn't have a pot to piss in 562 00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:44,896 and his cars were rubbish and, you know, he didn't have half the parts for them. 563 00:37:46,473 --> 00:37:49,773 Frank couldn't afford new tyres 564 00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:54,448 and was racing with second hand Firestone tyres I think. 565 00:37:54,522 --> 00:37:57,696 I wish they'd ban tyres, there's just too many. 566 00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:00,379 If Ginny hadn't been there, 567 00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:02,906 Williams wouldn't have made it, cause a lot of the money 568 00:38:02,989 --> 00:38:04,491 that kept it going was hers. 569 00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:28,765 I remember Ginny gave him £8.00 once 570 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:31,601 to go out and buy some fish and chips, I think it was 571 00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:35,109 and he went out and bought eight Champion sparking plugs 572 00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:36,986 and never came back for three days. 573 00:38:37,065 --> 00:38:39,614 No I don't think my parents were happy when they learnt 574 00:38:39,692 --> 00:38:44,198 that she'd sold her flat to help Frank and to give him a bit of the money. 575 00:38:46,241 --> 00:38:49,120 If there was a common denominator through 576 00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:54,959 the first decade of his relationship with Virginia, would be penury. 577 00:39:11,432 --> 00:39:14,151 Frank Williams' team is at its lowest ebb 578 00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:17,151 the cars are well down the grid in seventh and ninth places. 579 00:39:26,406 --> 00:39:28,374 Frank came round to see me 580 00:39:28,449 --> 00:39:30,577 "and said “Brode I can't carry on" 581 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,755 and he had a bit of paper with debts on it and they were huge, 582 00:39:34,747 --> 00:39:38,377 and then overnight uh... this guy who had been creeping around with Frank 583 00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:40,962 and giving him little bits of money, Walter Wolf, 584 00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,548 did something that happens in business all the time. 585 00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:48,140 Walter bought out Frank's debt 586 00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:52,019 and took control of the Williams Formula 1 team. 587 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:55,773 Walter was clearly a pretty clever business man 588 00:39:55,852 --> 00:39:59,106 he'd made a fortune many, many tens of millions by himself. 589 00:39:59,188 --> 00:40:01,532 I thought let's give this a crack. 590 00:40:01,608 --> 00:40:04,782 But by half way through 1976, 591 00:40:04,861 --> 00:40:09,037 it was very plain to Walter that the race team wasn't running well, 592 00:40:09,115 --> 00:40:14,667 and that Frank didn't have the capability to turn it around. 593 00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:17,224 And then Frank went to the factory, 594 00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:18,875 put his key in the front door, 595 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:21,461 it wouldn't work. Then, the side window opened and a guy said, 596 00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:23,939 “Frank that's your things there, you can't come into the factory, 597 00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:25,636 you're banned from the factory now”. 598 00:40:25,715 --> 00:40:28,110 He couldn't believe it, he'd been locked out of his own factory, 599 00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:31,809 it was his life, his life was in that box and inside that factory. 600 00:40:35,308 --> 00:40:40,030 And then six weeks later, Frank's car, which was renamed 'The Wolf', 601 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:44,075 went down to South America won its first race. 602 00:40:47,153 --> 00:40:50,703 The thing that Frank had been living for, for all those years. 603 00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:13,809 One day, Ginny phoned me up and she said, 604 00:41:13,888 --> 00:41:17,688 “Brode I've got a lot of problems with Frank, he's in a fit of depression, 605 00:41:17,767 --> 00:41:19,940 "he hasn't got out of his pyjamas for six weeks." 606 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:25,238 Sol turned up 11 o'clock and I looked at him and I said, 607 00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:27,034 “What the fuck's going on here Frank? 608 00:41:27,110 --> 00:41:28,657 "You've got your pyjamas on." 609 00:41:28,736 --> 00:41:34,459 "And he said “Brode, I can't quite get my mind together about things" 610 00:41:34,534 --> 00:41:36,628 and I knew what was killing him. 611 00:41:56,305 --> 00:41:57,602 I said to Frank, 612 00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:00,119 "“Look there must be some way you can get into Formula 1 again." 613 00:42:00,143 --> 00:42:02,121 "And he said “Well I don't know, I don't know" he said, 614 00:42:02,145 --> 00:42:06,901 “but I've been thinking about it and I might be able to get 185,000 615 00:42:06,983 --> 00:42:10,112 out of a Belgian beer company called Belle-Vue 616 00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:14,199 but we'd have to have a Belgian guy called Patrick Néve as driver.” 617 00:42:14,282 --> 00:42:17,456 "I said “So what? That's the start of a new Formula 1 team." 618 00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:18,971 “Do you think so?“ I said, “Yeah Frank“, 619 00:42:18,995 --> 00:42:22,374 "I said “get out of them poxy pyjamas and go to work, do what you're best at." 620 00:42:28,337 --> 00:42:30,024 We sat at my kitchen table and I said right, 621 00:42:30,048 --> 00:42:32,642 "“You do a list of Formula 1 team names and I'll do a list." 622 00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:35,220 And what was the name that you came up with? 623 00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:38,686 Oh it was really tough, very testing, very brain stretching 624 00:42:38,765 --> 00:42:41,109 but we kept it Williams Grand Prix Operating Limited. 625 00:42:42,852 --> 00:42:44,747 I said “Right I'm taking 2 days off. 626 00:42:44,771 --> 00:42:46,990 We're gonna go find a factory." "Yeah!" he went. 627 00:43:07,752 --> 00:43:10,346 It was very much hand to mouth but uh... 628 00:43:10,379 --> 00:43:12,222 I loved what I was doing 629 00:43:12,298 --> 00:43:14,458 I'm very optimistic and I felt it would all come right. 630 00:43:16,094 --> 00:43:18,072 At the end of the day, when you're a racer, you're a racer, 631 00:43:18,096 --> 00:43:20,224 - it's a bit of a bug. - A bug? 632 00:43:21,766 --> 00:43:22,767 It gets you. 633 00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:43,580 140,000 fans packed into Silverstone, 634 00:43:43,663 --> 00:43:47,713 so Hamilton's on the right as we look at it, Nico Rosburg on the left, 635 00:43:47,792 --> 00:43:51,171 the British Grand Prix about to get under way, 636 00:43:51,254 --> 00:43:53,552 lights out, away we go and who's it gonna be, 637 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:55,776 it's a good start from the second row, the Williams and Massa, 638 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,895 Williams out getting both cars past both Mercedes. 639 00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:00,739 Massa leads, Bottas trying to get 640 00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:01,935 second from Hamilton, 641 00:44:02,014 --> 00:44:04,392 Hamilton in a bit of trouble but he's fighting back 642 00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:08,730 but we have a race on our hands, what a start from the Williams guys. 643 00:44:10,022 --> 00:44:12,417 - I think Valtteri is quicker. - He is quicker, he should pass them. 644 00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:13,561 He should pass them. 645 00:44:13,609 --> 00:44:15,828 Be careful, be careful! And he's off! 646 00:44:15,903 --> 00:44:18,281 Hamilton goes off in his attempts to try and rest the lead 647 00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:21,038 and that might give an opportunity here for Valtteri Bottas. 648 00:44:21,117 --> 00:44:23,461 Bottas goes into second place. 649 00:44:24,662 --> 00:44:27,962 And up front ifs Williams one and two at the moment. 650 00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:37,262 Bottas comes in from the race lead 651 00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,644 as Lewis Hamilton continues around the track, 652 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,394 let's see how the stop goes for Valtteri Bottas, ifs pretty good, 653 00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:46,692 Hamilton's already along the start finish straight, he's alongside, 654 00:44:46,767 --> 00:44:50,943 Hamilton retakes the lead and where does Bottas come back out? 655 00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:55,030 He comes back out behind his team mate, Felipe Massa. 656 00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:57,828 Oh, Hamilton is pulling away in front. 657 00:45:03,826 --> 00:45:07,046 Lewis Hamilton wins the British Grand Prix, 658 00:45:07,121 --> 00:45:09,123 he had to fight for it, 659 00:45:09,207 --> 00:45:13,007 ultimately Williams have to settle for fourth and fifth 660 00:45:13,085 --> 00:45:15,383 but you have to feel for Williams. 661 00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:12,312 Patrick Head is the technical genius inside Williams, 662 00:46:12,395 --> 00:46:13,738 the engineer swot who 663 00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:16,908 bestows power on the charismatic leader. 664 00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:24,699 When I met Patrick, which is the best thing, 665 00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,538 apart from marrying the wife I married, 666 00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:28,512 was the best day to ever happen to me in my life. 667 00:46:28,536 --> 00:46:30,584 He was a gifted engineer. 668 00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:37,132 Patrick is a person who, he doesn't suffer fools gladly... 669 00:46:37,211 --> 00:46:38,772 Oh he's a bully, if he wanted it 670 00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:41,219 and it wasn't coming he'd bully his way through. 671 00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:42,651 A lot of people are frightened of him, 672 00:46:42,675 --> 00:46:45,849 you know he's a broad guy and he can be quite aggressive looking 673 00:46:45,928 --> 00:46:51,401 but his character is not one that junior employees found comfortable, 674 00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:54,274 you know what I mean, they knew when they had made a mistake. 675 00:46:54,353 --> 00:46:59,359 I think most of my father's forbears were military, 676 00:46:59,442 --> 00:47:04,994 one of them General Michael Head had been a soldier under Wellington, 677 00:47:05,072 --> 00:47:11,546 I think not wanting to fail was a very strong motivation. 678 00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:16,046 This car's half a second slower on the stop watch than the other car. 679 00:47:16,125 --> 00:47:17,217 Yeah. 680 00:47:24,342 --> 00:47:28,472 The thing that was unique, that Patrick brought to the show, 681 00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:33,060 he was responsible for making Formula 1 reliable. 682 00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:37,901 So Frank's cars almost instantly finish races, 683 00:47:37,980 --> 00:47:39,482 which they hadn't been doing before 684 00:47:39,565 --> 00:47:42,819 and that's where life changed for Williams. 685 00:47:45,196 --> 00:47:48,700 The British teams have kept ahead with innovative designs, 686 00:47:48,741 --> 00:47:51,870 the most recent being the aerodynamic skirt, 687 00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:54,080 a rigid panel that scrapes along the ground 688 00:47:54,163 --> 00:47:56,211 between the front and rear wheels, 689 00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:59,134 creating a phenomenon called ground effect. 690 00:48:01,879 --> 00:48:03,506 For Frank Dernie a simple graph 691 00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:07,560 shows the rise in suction under the Williams wood skirts. 692 00:48:07,635 --> 00:48:11,356 If you remove the skirt you actually get so little flow in this area... 693 00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:13,367 The thing that really made a big difference 694 00:48:13,391 --> 00:48:15,689 was a fairing along the side of the engine 695 00:48:15,768 --> 00:48:17,441 which allowed the flow to remain attached 696 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,945 all the way to the back and I tested that in a wind tunnel test 697 00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:24,076 just before Silverstone in 1979 698 00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:28,497 and it was the biggest gain of performance I've ever seen on a car 699 00:48:28,572 --> 00:48:31,416 so I rushed back from the wind tunnel and drew the parts 700 00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:33,995 and we got them made so we could use them at Silverstone. 701 00:48:36,997 --> 00:48:38,517 I remember going out there 702 00:48:38,541 --> 00:48:40,009 and hopping in it for the first time 703 00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:41,461 and thinking bloody hell. 704 00:48:41,502 --> 00:48:43,397 What was the difference with the car'? 705 00:48:43,421 --> 00:48:47,301 It was better it was just better. 706 00:48:47,383 --> 00:48:48,777 Don't start getting me, trying to be technical 707 00:48:48,801 --> 00:48:50,974 because I'll look like a complete goose. 708 00:48:51,053 --> 00:48:55,604 We went to the test and in the morning, 709 00:48:55,683 --> 00:48:59,313 everybody had been running and I think the best lap time would of been uh..., 710 00:48:59,395 --> 00:49:04,151 I dunno 12.9 or something by somebody and Alan went out, 711 00:49:04,233 --> 00:49:08,784 I remember the time absolutely, he did a one minute 11.88 just like that, 712 00:49:08,821 --> 00:49:12,746 bang, and the rest of the pit lane were doing mid 13s 713 00:49:12,825 --> 00:49:15,512 and it was most peculiar because you were standing there with your thing 714 00:49:15,536 --> 00:49:18,380 and everybody went... and looked down at us, 715 00:49:18,456 --> 00:49:20,925 they couldn't, they just could not believe it. 716 00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:33,805 In practice, Alan Jones in the Saudia Williams 717 00:49:33,888 --> 00:49:37,142 has slashed an incredible seven seconds off the record, 718 00:49:37,183 --> 00:49:39,857 and that's a lot these days. 719 00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:41,562 Alan was a man's man, 720 00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:43,739 he was an Aussie, it's all you expect from an Aussie, 721 00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,942 maybe you know big character, strong personality, 722 00:49:46,025 --> 00:49:48,403 took no nonsense from anybody. 723 00:49:48,486 --> 00:49:50,909 He liked his fun, he liked to drink, 724 00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:54,788 though I think he always had a bit of a struggle keeping his weight down. 725 00:49:54,867 --> 00:49:56,869 After a race you'd nearly always see him 726 00:49:56,952 --> 00:49:59,876 pouring a beer down his throat or two or three. 727 00:49:59,955 --> 00:50:02,434 In motor sport there's two good reasons to have a bit of a drink, 728 00:50:02,458 --> 00:50:04,301 one is to commiserate and one is to celebrate, 729 00:50:04,376 --> 00:50:06,925 so you're pretty safe either way you're gonna have a beer. 730 00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:09,427 Two Williams in the first two rows, 731 00:50:09,507 --> 00:50:12,977 the incredible veteran, the Swiss driver, Clay Regazzoni. 732 00:50:13,052 --> 00:50:14,696 Well Clay's not as quick as he used to be 733 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:16,313 he's now very much a number 2 driver 734 00:50:16,388 --> 00:50:18,641 he's number 2 to Alan Jones in the Williams team. 735 00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:21,651 We all sort of expected Regazzoni 736 00:50:21,727 --> 00:50:23,980 to be quicker than Jones but he never was. 737 00:50:24,021 --> 00:50:26,194 Jones turned out to be much, much better 738 00:50:26,273 --> 00:50:28,275 than any of us had realised I think. 739 00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:32,865 Now all ready for the 68 lap British Grand Prix. 740 00:50:37,076 --> 00:50:40,751 And punching through, it's the two Saudia Williams cars, 741 00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:44,709 first into Copse Corner and they're coming through, that's Jabouifle. 742 00:50:44,792 --> 00:50:47,011 Jean-Pierre Jabouille is going to go through, 743 00:50:47,086 --> 00:50:49,054 he's got tremendous speed and power here. 744 00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:54,056 510 horsepower and it is still, Alan Jones leads now. 745 00:50:54,134 --> 00:50:56,887 When Alan took the lead quite quickly and just disappeared, 746 00:50:56,971 --> 00:51:00,817 Patrick and I were just counting the laps, praying for the laps to keep reducing 747 00:51:00,891 --> 00:51:04,566 because it, there was a new car, it wasn't necessarily reliable, 748 00:51:04,645 --> 00:51:07,524 and witnessed what was about to be a major event for the team. 749 00:51:07,606 --> 00:51:10,610 This became a reality. 750 00:51:10,693 --> 00:51:14,118 And Alan Jones pulling away now. 751 00:51:14,196 --> 00:51:18,121 Well I was leading very comfortably but then all of a sudden, 752 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,419 in the rear view mirrors I saw a hell of a lot of smoke 753 00:51:20,494 --> 00:51:21,721 coming out of the back of the car 754 00:51:21,745 --> 00:51:23,348 and I thought there was something wrong for sure. 755 00:51:23,372 --> 00:51:28,378 And that is trouble for Alan Jones 756 00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:33,011 and he, the way he's coasting, it looks as though he's burst his engine. 757 00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:34,818 I mean I should've hung around for the end of the race 758 00:51:34,842 --> 00:51:37,686 but I was that pissed off I just jumped in my car 759 00:51:37,761 --> 00:51:40,139 and went back to London at about 300 mile an hour. 760 00:51:44,059 --> 00:51:46,437 So Clay Regazzoni is the new leader 761 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,524 of the 33rd British Grand Prix. 762 00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:55,906 Clay Regazzoni almost home to win the first race ever 763 00:51:55,988 --> 00:52:01,210 for the Williams team and Frank Williams will be beside himself with joy. 764 00:52:01,285 --> 00:52:04,255 And Clay Regazzoni goes across the line 765 00:52:04,330 --> 00:52:07,459 and he has won the British Grand Prix. 766 00:52:07,499 --> 00:52:09,126 We were so much quicker than anyone else, 767 00:52:09,209 --> 00:52:11,803 even though Clay was nowhere near as fast as Alan 768 00:52:11,879 --> 00:52:14,052 and of course when Alan broke down he won. 769 00:52:15,924 --> 00:52:17,892 We won a British Grand Prix, 770 00:52:17,968 --> 00:52:20,266 I mean you couldn't put it in a book, it was incredible. 771 00:52:20,346 --> 00:52:23,850 Clay, what is so good about this Williams car? 772 00:52:23,932 --> 00:52:26,151 Everything, everything flaughsL. 773 00:52:26,226 --> 00:52:28,979 It was the first win for Frank Williams in Formula 1 774 00:52:29,021 --> 00:52:32,025 since he started over a decade previously. 775 00:52:32,107 --> 00:52:34,826 Frank Williams, this must be the happiest day 776 00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:36,487 of your motor racing life. 777 00:52:36,570 --> 00:52:38,447 No doubt about that, you're right yes. 778 00:52:38,530 --> 00:52:39,758 Frank, what were your feelings 779 00:52:39,782 --> 00:52:41,204 during those last few laps? 780 00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:43,123 Well sheer terror that the car wouldn't finish, 781 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,006 we'd lost Alan and I was terrified of losing Clay but the car was very sweet. 782 00:52:47,081 --> 00:52:48,892 Frank we've watched you struggling, 783 00:52:48,916 --> 00:52:51,840 if I may say so, in motor racing since 1969. 784 00:52:51,919 --> 00:52:53,605 Frank Williams, a man who's kept trying for Britain, 785 00:52:53,629 --> 00:52:56,553 many congratulations Frank, thank you very much. 786 00:52:58,217 --> 00:52:59,639 I think my parents just, 787 00:52:59,718 --> 00:53:01,846 after everyone had gone, just sat there, 788 00:53:01,929 --> 00:53:04,102 just on the sofa of the caravan arm in arm 789 00:53:04,139 --> 00:53:07,484 and just didn't want the day to end, it was, it was surreal. 790 00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,732 So what did that feel like? 791 00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:15,034 Well relief I suppose, a relief, because a lot of people would think, 792 00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:19,660 oh Frank, bloody Frank hasn't got a clue what he was doing but I pressed on. 793 00:53:19,738 --> 00:53:23,709 For me personally I felt, about bloody time. 794 00:53:23,784 --> 00:53:25,957 From that moment on in the season 795 00:53:26,036 --> 00:53:27,356 I think we were totally dominant, 796 00:53:27,413 --> 00:53:31,964 we were a second or two a lap quicker than anybody else everywhere. 797 00:53:32,042 --> 00:53:33,937 I went on and won the next three Grand Prix's, 798 00:53:33,961 --> 00:53:36,180 I won the Dutch Grand Prix, the Austrian Grand Prix 799 00:53:36,255 --> 00:53:37,848 and the German Grand Prix. 800 00:53:37,923 --> 00:53:41,097 And Jones has done it, and he is the world champion. 801 00:53:48,016 --> 00:53:52,738 He's the world champion of 1982, Keke Rosberg. 802 00:54:26,638 --> 00:54:29,733 Well he has an eye for the ladies, Frank, he's always liked a pretty girl. 803 00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:35,865 I, like Frank, had women literally throwing themselves at me 804 00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:38,783 and you can't help every now and again pick one up can you? 805 00:54:38,859 --> 00:54:43,160 I used to get notes put on my windscreen wiper of my car, 806 00:54:43,238 --> 00:54:44,958 there were groupies going around the circuit 807 00:54:45,032 --> 00:54:47,034 and they were parading up and down the pits, 808 00:54:47,117 --> 00:54:50,542 unreal, we called them screwdrivers, and they did. 809 00:54:50,621 --> 00:54:54,922 With any sport you get a following of glamorous women 810 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,593 who are just there for the action 811 00:54:56,668 --> 00:54:59,296 and they will appear at the parties in the evening, 812 00:54:59,379 --> 00:55:01,677 sometimes in the hospitality areas 813 00:55:01,757 --> 00:55:05,261 and a lot of the sponsors employ promotions girls, 814 00:55:05,344 --> 00:55:08,473 all tall and long legs and very glamorous. 815 00:55:09,848 --> 00:55:11,521 Formula 1 is a heady cocktail 816 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,695 of strutting temperamental egos 817 00:55:14,770 --> 00:55:18,070 and a deep undercurrent of male sexual domination. 818 00:55:19,358 --> 00:55:20,280 When I started 819 00:55:20,359 --> 00:55:22,782 there were very few women working in Formula 1, 820 00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:28,122 some of the teams had a female caterer, maybe a husband and wife team, 821 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,202 there were press officers who were women, 822 00:55:31,411 --> 00:55:34,005 women were considered to be irrelevant, they made the tea, 823 00:55:34,081 --> 00:55:37,881 booked the flights or provided glamorous accompaniment 824 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,428 to drivers and team owners. 825 00:56:04,528 --> 00:56:06,030 Although she was a perfectionist, 826 00:56:06,113 --> 00:56:09,663 she knew that life is always full of compromises 827 00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:12,374 and that was probably one of them and she'd fallen for Frank 828 00:56:12,452 --> 00:56:15,547 but she'd fallen for Frank as a complete package. 829 00:56:15,581 --> 00:56:18,630 And because she was completely besotted and head over heels 830 00:56:18,709 --> 00:56:22,589 that was it and she dealt with it. Um I wouldn't. 831 00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:40,114 Could you imagine at that time, 832 00:56:40,188 --> 00:56:41,815 a woman being Deputy Team Principal or- 833 00:56:41,899 --> 00:56:44,152 No, absolutely no way, 834 00:56:45,861 --> 00:56:49,206 women, men in motor racing are sexist, 835 00:56:49,281 --> 00:56:52,376 they're possibly the most sexist people in any sport. 836 00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:56,581 Women are always going to come under more scrutiny 837 00:56:56,663 --> 00:56:59,667 because there was a huge body of people within Formula 1 838 00:56:59,750 --> 00:57:03,345 who still don't believe women can do the same job as men. 839 00:57:09,801 --> 00:57:13,851 I think Formula 1 traditionally has been quite a male dominated sport 840 00:57:13,931 --> 00:57:16,980 but there are so many more women now that work um in our sport, 841 00:57:17,059 --> 00:57:18,870 and that's not just in the high profile positions, 842 00:57:18,894 --> 00:57:21,397 so we've got female engineers, female aerodynamicists 843 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,949 so things are absolutely changing. 844 00:57:24,024 --> 00:57:27,153 So your father is an icon when it comes to Formula 1, 845 00:57:27,235 --> 00:57:29,863 was it harder to prove your skills because you're a woman 846 00:57:29,947 --> 00:57:31,915 or because he's your father? 847 00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:36,666 Um Formula 1, this role, was not my ambition from a little girl, 848 00:57:36,745 --> 00:57:41,000 however kind of circumstances changed and a job became available 849 00:57:41,083 --> 00:57:45,304 and I was asked to do it, not by my dad, um and in fact when he was asked 850 00:57:45,379 --> 00:57:48,223 he said no way is she working for my company. 851 00:57:48,298 --> 00:57:49,901 So if you're, in your private life, 852 00:57:49,925 --> 00:57:54,180 in which situations do you enjoy being a woman? 853 00:57:54,221 --> 00:57:55,221 Um... 854 00:57:57,391 --> 00:57:59,769 I get asked that female question a lot, 855 00:57:59,851 --> 00:58:01,524 I was asked it last night at dinner, 856 00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:04,732 I was asked it in four interviews I did yesterday, 857 00:58:04,815 --> 00:58:08,661 but I still find it quite odd that people find it surprising 858 00:58:08,735 --> 00:58:11,989 that a girl might be doing this job, it really kind of annoys me. 859 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,219 Heritage is sort of a nice, to-itself department uh... 860 00:58:33,260 --> 00:58:35,638 we, we have some support from people in the factory 861 00:58:35,721 --> 00:58:39,066 but it's, it's mostly just, just me and Dicky so 862 00:58:39,141 --> 00:58:41,940 yeah it's mostly just, just us here. 863 00:58:43,729 --> 00:58:47,154 Just getting down here to some of the bigger components, 864 00:58:47,232 --> 00:58:48,376 you can see much heavier there, 865 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,528 they're actually buckling the shelves in here. 866 00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:53,079 Oh that box isn't numbered. 867 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,459 Does Claire ever come over here Johnny? 868 00:58:57,534 --> 00:59:00,788 No I don't think she knows this room exists. 869 00:59:00,871 --> 00:59:01,793 - I don't. - No? 870 00:59:01,872 --> 00:59:04,466 No, nobody comes over here I don't think. 871 00:59:07,377 --> 00:59:09,095 Me and Johnny. 872 00:59:11,715 --> 00:59:16,186 Jonathan wearing his um, Johnny used to like playing soldiers quite a lot. 873 00:59:17,220 --> 00:59:19,689 - How are things? - Not, not the best. 874 00:59:21,266 --> 00:59:24,065 - Can you talk about that? - Um... 875 00:59:27,689 --> 00:59:30,784 Um... Johnny is, you know it's um... 876 00:59:30,859 --> 00:59:35,160 I suppose some families just have, you know, always gonna have 877 00:59:35,238 --> 00:59:39,038 you know some issues aren't they and um 878 00:59:39,117 --> 00:59:45,124 unfortunately Johnny and I do um, which I think is something that I will 879 00:59:45,207 --> 00:59:49,838 regret and be very unhappy about my whole life um... 880 00:59:52,464 --> 00:59:55,559 And is that, is that to do with work or...? 881 00:59:55,634 --> 00:59:59,559 Yeah. Yeah it is, unfortunately. 882 01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:05,478 Is it because you got the position that you did and... 883 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:06,788 - Yeah. - He didn't. 884 01:00:06,812 --> 01:00:09,281 Yeah, exactly. 885 01:00:09,356 --> 01:00:11,905 Yeah I'm not, I'm not the oldest and I'm not a boy. 886 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,800 Uh... that's me and Claire. 887 01:00:21,743 --> 01:00:23,783 You two look pretty close in that one. 888 01:00:24,454 --> 01:00:28,254 That was about 30 years ago flaughsL. 889 01:00:36,675 --> 01:00:42,057 It's horrible, he thinks that I was ambitious 890 01:00:42,139 --> 01:00:47,521 and that um I put myself in, 891 01:00:47,602 --> 01:00:51,323 in the position and you know I lobbied, I, 892 01:00:51,398 --> 01:00:55,448 you know cajoled my way in and 893 01:00:55,527 --> 01:00:58,701 couldn't be the situation... could not be further from the truth. 894 01:01:00,949 --> 01:01:05,125 It's something their mother would be deeply unhappy about 895 01:01:05,203 --> 01:01:09,208 and I think it's something that she could've sorted 896 01:01:09,291 --> 01:01:13,296 um in a way that probably nobody else could. 897 01:01:13,378 --> 01:01:15,847 I don't believe Frank could, could sort it out. 898 01:01:47,996 --> 01:01:52,467 I can remember some time in 1984 and as young children do, 899 01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:54,753 waking up earlier than their parents 900 01:01:54,836 --> 01:02:00,309 and just for this man with a moustache and uh... 901 01:02:00,342 --> 01:02:03,095 an accent different to ours, obviously being from Birmingham 902 01:02:03,178 --> 01:02:05,727 just walking past and saying good morning 903 01:02:05,805 --> 01:02:08,649 and it scaring the living life out of us, 904 01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:10,978 and us both running into my parents' room 905 01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:13,289 and saying there's a man in the house, there's a man in the house 906 01:02:13,313 --> 01:02:15,987 and uh... them saying, “No, no, no, no it's Daddy's new driver, 907 01:02:16,066 --> 01:02:16,942 "that's Nigel Mansell." 908 01:02:17,025 --> 01:02:19,670 The rumours say that you might be going to Williams, 909 01:02:19,694 --> 01:02:20,796 what would you have to say about that? 910 01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:23,140 Williams? Williams? Who are they?. 911 01:02:25,242 --> 01:02:26,710 When Nigel was on top form 912 01:02:26,785 --> 01:02:28,721 he was as good as any driver we've ever had I would say, 913 01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,918 he was hard work out of the car 914 01:02:30,997 --> 01:02:33,125 but in the car he was, he was really superb. 915 01:02:33,208 --> 01:02:36,712 Nigel is three people in one, 916 01:02:36,795 --> 01:02:39,389 he's an absolutely fantastic racing driver 917 01:02:39,422 --> 01:02:43,598 who is just astoundingly good when it comes to overtaking people. 918 01:02:43,677 --> 01:02:46,806 And Mansell moves to the outside and Manselfs going through, 919 01:02:46,888 --> 01:02:51,109 Nigel Mansell takes the lead and neatly boxes Ayrton Senna. 920 01:02:51,184 --> 01:02:53,937 As a family man, he's just the nicest guy, 921 01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:58,571 he's got a lovely family, he adores his children, he's faithful to his wife, 922 01:02:58,650 --> 01:03:01,073 unlike quite a few racing drivers 923 01:03:01,152 --> 01:03:04,531 but as a person out of the car he's an absolute arse, 924 01:03:04,614 --> 01:03:06,787 you know he's just a difficult bloke to work with. 925 01:03:06,866 --> 01:03:08,511 Drive slower, get it together, 926 01:03:08,535 --> 01:03:10,412 it's a fucking nightmare, then someone's... 927 01:03:10,495 --> 01:03:13,214 And that was why, generally speaking, 928 01:03:13,290 --> 01:03:18,012 we all liked Nelson quite a lot and found Nigel a bit too much. 929 01:03:28,013 --> 01:03:31,688 Nelson Piquet replaced Keke Rosberg for '86 930 01:03:31,766 --> 01:03:36,397 and he was hired because Frank loved the idea of Nelson Piquet, 931 01:03:36,479 --> 01:03:39,028 he had already won two world championships 932 01:03:39,107 --> 01:03:42,702 and he loved Nelson's Brazilian flare, his girlfriends, 933 01:03:42,777 --> 01:03:44,547 the way he looked, the way he carried himself. 934 01:03:44,571 --> 01:03:47,415 He had the private yacht and he had a helicopter on the yacht 935 01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:50,539 and he had a citation 10 jet which at that time 936 01:03:50,618 --> 01:03:54,213 was by far the fastest jet in the world and he was flying it. 937 01:03:54,289 --> 01:04:00,012 Nelson was ebullient, loved life and was a very cool guy, 938 01:04:00,086 --> 01:04:04,637 Nigel was cheese and chutney sandwiches 939 01:04:04,716 --> 01:04:07,185 and hot milk before he went to bed. 940 01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:08,261 Yes! 941 01:04:08,345 --> 01:04:11,724 I thought at that time Nelson was the best driver in the world, 942 01:04:11,806 --> 01:04:16,027 so I was thrilled to bits he was coming, he was very keen to join Williams 943 01:04:16,061 --> 01:04:17,904 because he felt that we were the quickest. 944 01:04:17,979 --> 01:04:21,609 Nelson felt with that package around him 945 01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:24,820 he could win another world championship. 946 01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:39,634 We were doing the last of the pre-season tests, 947 01:04:39,709 --> 01:04:45,466 "the Paul Ricard Circuit, so we had both Nigel Manse" and Nelson Piquet there, 948 01:04:45,548 --> 01:04:48,267 Frank had come out to the test because 949 01:04:48,301 --> 01:04:50,929 he was very excited about the performance. 950 01:04:54,015 --> 01:04:57,064 Dad was you know away, he was at a preseason test 951 01:04:57,102 --> 01:04:59,196 and it was a kind of spring afternoon and mum 952 01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:01,819 suggested we go out on some bikes 953 01:05:03,358 --> 01:05:06,453 and took a little picnic and found a field, like you do 954 01:05:06,528 --> 01:05:09,657 and it was a really lovely day and then we just got back 955 01:05:09,739 --> 01:05:14,586 and waiting for dad to come home and, but he never did. 956 01:05:16,579 --> 01:05:18,172 The test was going very well, 957 01:05:18,248 --> 01:05:20,091 I think Frank was full of the joys of spring 958 01:05:20,166 --> 01:05:22,715 and thinking, right we're gonna go out and show them 959 01:05:22,794 --> 01:05:24,637 we can win the world championship, 960 01:05:24,712 --> 01:05:30,685 he was due to run a half marathon on the Sunday morning afterwards. 961 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,390 Frank, keen to get back for the half marathon he was doing, 962 01:05:34,472 --> 01:05:37,225 it was a county half marathon, he was that good. 963 01:05:38,351 --> 01:05:39,495 And so he and Peter Windsor 964 01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:42,944 who was the marketing guy at the time, they went to the airport. 965 01:05:42,981 --> 01:05:46,952 And he had his Avis Ford Sierra... 966 01:05:47,026 --> 01:05:48,462 and he said “Right c'mon, let's go.” 967 01:05:48,486 --> 01:05:53,663 And then a spot of get-home, have you ever heard of get-home-itis? 968 01:05:54,701 --> 01:05:56,053 When you wanna just get home? 969 01:05:56,077 --> 01:05:59,331 You've gotta get home, must do, must catch the last flight. 970 01:05:59,414 --> 01:06:03,510 He took a little twiddly road down through the back of the circuit 971 01:06:03,585 --> 01:06:07,886 and it was a very, very twisty, narrow road. 972 01:06:07,964 --> 01:06:11,309 And he was in this 1600 Sierra, throwing the thing around, 973 01:06:11,384 --> 01:06:13,057 braking as late as he could 974 01:06:13,136 --> 01:06:15,016 but I do remember saying to Frank at one moment, 975 01:06:15,096 --> 01:06:19,442 when the back end skipped out under braking into a tight left hander, 976 01:06:19,517 --> 01:06:21,736 uh... “Are the brakes ok on this thing Frank?” 977 01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:23,905 And he said with sort of trepidation, 978 01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:26,483 “Frank do you always drive like this?", 979 01:06:26,566 --> 01:06:29,003 meaning, and you can't really tell your boss this, f-ing well slow down. 980 01:06:29,027 --> 01:06:29,869 I remember him saying, 981 01:06:29,944 --> 01:06:31,664 “Yeah, the brakes are fine, brakes are fine. 982 01:06:31,738 --> 01:06:33,299 I was rushing and rushing and rushing. 983 01:06:33,323 --> 01:06:34,550 Suddenly we were in clear road, 984 01:06:34,574 --> 01:06:35,826 the road was downhill 985 01:06:35,909 --> 01:06:39,334 and there was a fast left hand kink about 300 yards ahead of us 986 01:06:39,412 --> 01:06:42,507 and I remember seeing through the windscreen the, 987 01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:46,295 a stone wall on the inside, it looked like we were just gonna hit the, 988 01:06:46,377 --> 01:06:50,803 the end of this wall and my reaction was just to bury myself in the foot well area. 989 01:06:50,882 --> 01:06:55,433 As we hit the back, that wall the car went up in the air... 990 01:06:59,265 --> 01:07:02,860 there was just silence, just a terrible silence, 991 01:07:02,936 --> 01:07:06,782 then this massive thump and crash. 992 01:07:06,856 --> 01:07:10,827 It was you know a real whack in my neck sharp, sharp pain, pain. 993 01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:13,534 It's, rolling over doesn't hurt like this. 994 01:07:13,613 --> 01:07:17,117 I remember Frank saying after about 10 seconds, 995 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,326 “Are you ok? Are you ok? 996 01:07:18,409 --> 01:07:19,969 I can't move, I'm trapped, I'm trapped, 997 01:07:19,994 --> 01:07:22,622 get me out, get the ignition off, get the ignition off', 998 01:07:22,705 --> 01:07:24,423 because already there was a smell of fuel. 999 01:07:24,499 --> 01:07:30,051 I'm suspended about three, four inches from the floor upside down. 1000 01:07:30,129 --> 01:07:30,925 And there was a lot of blood 1001 01:07:31,005 --> 01:07:32,725 because he'd taken a direct blow on his head 1002 01:07:32,757 --> 01:07:34,759 when the roof had come down like that. 1003 01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:36,820 Soon as I undid the belt, of course I fell on my bleeding head, 1004 01:07:36,844 --> 01:07:38,061 right on my neck again. 1005 01:07:42,976 --> 01:07:43,818 The only thing I could remember 1006 01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,941 was to try to stabilise his head and neck 1007 01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:50,321 and try to pull him out by holding him under the armpits 1008 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,324 and then he started to say, “You know Peter, I'm a Roman Catholic 1009 01:07:53,403 --> 01:07:57,499 and if anything happens, I want to see if you can get the last rites.” 1010 01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:00,636 We were just looking at packing up 1011 01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:04,381 when a French youth arrived on a moped asking for me 1012 01:08:04,455 --> 01:08:06,924 and he explained that Frank Williams had gone off the road 1013 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,719 and wanted some help. 1014 01:08:09,794 --> 01:08:12,513 But Nelson said “Oh shit, that's a twisty road, I know the road, 1015 01:08:12,589 --> 01:08:14,512 "let's go down and see." 1016 01:08:14,591 --> 01:08:19,768 We didn't know exactly the damage but uh... 1017 01:08:19,846 --> 01:08:24,352 Uh... we knew it was something very dramatic. 1018 01:08:26,311 --> 01:08:28,985 We raced to the scene as quickly as we could 1019 01:08:29,063 --> 01:08:32,567 and at that time Frank's life was in the balance. 1020 01:08:34,986 --> 01:08:37,239 And that's when Nigel delegated himself really 1021 01:08:37,322 --> 01:08:39,290 to go in the ambulance with Frank, 1022 01:08:39,365 --> 01:08:41,538 basically hold Frank's hand and be with him. 1023 01:08:42,577 --> 01:08:46,582 Uh... I had a tremendous fear for Frank's safety and, 1024 01:08:46,623 --> 01:08:48,842 and his wellbeing and life at that time. 1025 01:08:48,916 --> 01:08:54,798 So certain people needed to be energised to do the right thing, quickly. 1026 01:08:57,717 --> 01:08:59,361 But by then it was pretty clear 1027 01:08:59,385 --> 01:09:02,980 that there was a very good chance that he's broken his neck. 1028 01:09:03,056 --> 01:09:07,812 When I phoned Patrick Head I told him that it looks like, from the x-rays, 1029 01:09:07,894 --> 01:09:10,067 that Frank's spinal column's been cut 1030 01:09:11,856 --> 01:09:14,905 and it was pretty, I think I said to him, “I think he's' fucked”, 1031 01:09:16,569 --> 01:09:19,573 like you know he looked really bad. 1032 01:09:20,907 --> 01:09:25,538 The next day Ginny and I flew down to Marseille 1033 01:09:25,620 --> 01:09:30,091 and she was pretty shattered but she was a brave woman. 1034 01:09:49,310 --> 01:09:56,444 The first time that I knew that things were gonna be really serious 1035 01:09:56,526 --> 01:10:00,121 was when the doctor in charge of the intensive care unit 1036 01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:03,575 called Ginny and I into his office and said, 1037 01:10:03,658 --> 01:10:05,831 "“When do you wanna move Frank back to England?" 1038 01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:09,881 Which I immediately took to mean they think he's gonna die 1039 01:10:09,956 --> 01:10:11,876 and they don't want him to die in their hospital. 1040 01:10:35,314 --> 01:10:38,193 At that stage, when Ginny got the message 1041 01:10:38,276 --> 01:10:40,199 that the frogs were gonna let Frank die, 1042 01:10:40,278 --> 01:10:44,124 she organised a plane, flew him back to Heathrow, 1043 01:10:44,198 --> 01:10:46,621 an ambulance took him to the London hospital 1044 01:10:46,701 --> 01:10:50,001 and 20 minutes later he was hooked up to English machines 1045 01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:52,673 and he was in a shocking state, shocking state. 1046 01:10:54,584 --> 01:10:55,728 The first thing that happened to Frank 1047 01:10:55,752 --> 01:10:58,426 was that he had a tracheotomy operation in the London hospital 1048 01:10:58,463 --> 01:11:00,306 and the operation went well in the sense that 1049 01:11:00,339 --> 01:11:03,513 suddenly Frank had relief and he could breathe, 1050 01:11:03,593 --> 01:11:05,971 he could get the fluid out of his lungs 1051 01:11:06,053 --> 01:11:11,059 and I remember Ginny learnt how to operate the extraction of the fluid 1052 01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,786 and would help the nurses and was able to do that 1053 01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:14,858 on her own within a day or two. 1054 01:11:14,937 --> 01:11:19,534 Her approach was I'm gonna manage these nurses around Frank's bed here 1055 01:11:19,609 --> 01:11:21,828 the way Frank runs a race team. 1056 01:11:34,165 --> 01:11:38,341 Ginny was literally his guardian, 1057 01:11:38,419 --> 01:11:40,797 he clinically died three times 1058 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,852 and without Ginny jumping on top of him and pumping his lungs out 1059 01:11:45,927 --> 01:11:49,522 and resuscitating him, not the nurses and the doctors, 1060 01:11:49,597 --> 01:11:52,942 but Ginny herself, um he would've been dead. 1061 01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:58,948 I remember I was off one day and Ginny was on duty as she called it. 1062 01:11:59,023 --> 01:12:01,242 The head of the unit came out and said, 1063 01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:04,366 “Normally Mrs Williams, in this situation, 1064 01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:08,746 "we would turn the life support off, but we need the family's permission." 1065 01:12:33,933 --> 01:12:37,563 Did you ever doubt whether Frank should be kept alive? 1066 01:12:37,645 --> 01:12:39,613 Yeah. 1067 01:12:39,689 --> 01:12:42,693 Yeah and um I actually said to him, 1068 01:12:42,775 --> 01:12:46,325 “Frank, I'm your best pal and I'd do anything for ya, 1069 01:12:46,404 --> 01:12:48,498 you want a bag over your head, I'll do it for you", 1070 01:12:48,573 --> 01:12:50,450 I promise you I said this, 1071 01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:53,286 I said “but you'd have to convince me first 1072 01:12:53,369 --> 01:12:57,169 "why your kids wouldn't want you around in any condition" 1073 01:12:57,248 --> 01:13:00,047 and I said, “So don't ask me to do anything 1074 01:13:00,126 --> 01:13:02,879 "that your kids wouldn't approve of." 1075 01:13:02,962 --> 01:13:04,231 So he said, “I won't do that David", 1076 01:13:04,255 --> 01:13:07,304 that was when he was speaking, he said “I'll never do that." 1077 01:13:10,344 --> 01:13:13,439 So this is a book I wrote when I was little. 1078 01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:17,786 I wrote that “I thought it would be a good idea 1079 01:13:17,810 --> 01:13:19,938 to start a kind of scrap book all about my father. 1080 01:13:20,021 --> 01:13:22,945 Above all I wanted somewhere to write down all my memories of him 1081 01:13:23,024 --> 01:13:25,573 before my mind had the chance to forget them. 1082 01:13:25,651 --> 01:13:28,780 Hopefully I will never forget what he used to be like before his accident. 1083 01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:34,911 Everyone thinks their father is the best. I'm not an exception. 1084 01:13:34,994 --> 01:13:38,294 "I worship my father. It sounds silly but he's my hero." 1085 01:13:40,666 --> 01:13:42,168 I started taking CDs 1086 01:13:42,251 --> 01:13:43,604 and things like that for him to listen to, 1087 01:13:43,628 --> 01:13:45,551 to fill in the time a bit, 1088 01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:47,733 because you have to remember he was a marathon runner, 1089 01:13:47,757 --> 01:13:52,558 you know he used to run 12 miles every day and felt bad if he didn't 1090 01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:55,811 and it was a spectacularly big change of life for Frank 1091 01:13:55,890 --> 01:13:57,312 when he had his accident. 1092 01:13:57,391 --> 01:14:00,315 So what, what kind of music did you introduce him to? 1093 01:14:00,394 --> 01:14:01,737 Bach. 1094 01:14:01,812 --> 01:14:07,990 ♪ Erbarme dich ♪ ♪ Johann Sebastian Bach ♪ 1095 01:14:10,821 --> 01:14:14,041 I mean I thought that my pal Frank was indestructible, 1096 01:14:14,116 --> 01:14:15,834 you know he got away with everything, 1097 01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:18,959 Frank'll be alright but he wasn't on this one 1098 01:14:19,038 --> 01:14:21,757 and Pd go and see him three or four times a week, 1099 01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:23,709 I always gave him a kiss, I had to, 1100 01:14:23,793 --> 01:14:25,270 lean over and give him a kiss on the forehead 1101 01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:26,688 and say "Your old mate Brode's here, mate." 1102 01:14:26,712 --> 01:14:30,137 and he used to flicker his eyelids at that, he couldn't speak, 1103 01:14:30,216 --> 01:14:33,641 stuff in his mouth, up his nose, oh it was a horrible sight. 1104 01:14:35,596 --> 01:14:36,990 Oh there was a lot of discomfort 1105 01:14:37,014 --> 01:14:38,482 and pain in the very early days, 1106 01:14:38,557 --> 01:14:42,027 that's inevitable, when such a major part of your body 1107 01:14:42,061 --> 01:14:47,784 gets a kick in the arse but um I can't say "Oh it was terrible", 1108 01:14:47,858 --> 01:14:49,952 it's not in my mind, I don't remember much of it. 1109 01:14:51,904 --> 01:14:54,373 Body's got a great many ways of protecting itself, 1110 01:14:54,448 --> 01:14:57,167 when it's in a bit of pain or bother. 1111 01:15:02,748 --> 01:15:06,878 First thing they said, “Broken your neck, long recovery period, 1112 01:15:06,961 --> 01:15:09,510 how much you'll recover isn't sure“, 1113 01:15:09,588 --> 01:15:12,057 of course they knew I wouldn't recover uh... 1114 01:15:12,133 --> 01:15:13,851 but you don't quite tell a person 1115 01:15:13,926 --> 01:15:16,554 "when he wakes up “You're f-ed mate, for good." 1116 01:15:18,764 --> 01:15:21,108 Probably for the first time in front of me, 1117 01:15:21,183 --> 01:15:25,484 Virginia, she lost it, it was a sort of an awful moment 1118 01:15:25,563 --> 01:15:29,409 and I remember putting my arms around her and she was saying. 1119 01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:30,963 “Frank's gonna be, he's quadriplegic, 1120 01:15:31,027 --> 01:15:33,621 "he can't walk Jamie, he can't do anything." 1121 01:15:33,696 --> 01:15:35,915 And I was saying, “It's gonna be ok” 1122 01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:37,537 but I had this sort of feeling, 1123 01:15:37,616 --> 01:15:40,039 I wasn't sure at all that it was going to be ok. 1124 01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:46,092 For a long time, maybe three, four months after the accident, 1125 01:15:46,167 --> 01:15:50,968 there was no real certainty that he'd ever be able to leave the hospital 1126 01:15:51,047 --> 01:15:55,848 and to all intents and purposes he was dead to the team. 1127 01:15:55,926 --> 01:15:58,270 And you know there we were with the fastest car, 1128 01:15:58,345 --> 01:15:59,813 we were gonna win all the races, 1129 01:15:59,889 --> 01:16:02,563 we got two fantastic drivers and everything was going 1130 01:16:02,641 --> 01:16:06,441 and then all of a sudden the boss, the figure head, the main man 1131 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:11,902 had had this horrific accident and it really was a massive change. 1132 01:16:13,652 --> 01:16:19,284 I think then it sort of dawned on us all, um, where do we go from here? 1133 01:16:19,366 --> 01:16:21,039 What's gonna happen in '86? 1134 01:16:26,165 --> 01:16:27,642 We await the start of the. 1135 01:16:27,666 --> 01:16:31,216 Brazilian Grand Prix and the 1986 season. 1136 01:16:31,295 --> 01:16:35,300 Sadly, Frank Williams, boss of the Williams team isn't here 1137 01:16:35,341 --> 01:16:38,220 after a major road accident in France. 1138 01:16:38,260 --> 01:16:43,141 But for the whole team, that's an added incentive to do well. 1139 01:16:43,182 --> 01:16:45,202 Well they went to work with a vengeance, 1140 01:16:45,226 --> 01:16:47,274 instead of them all moping about, they said. 1141 01:16:47,353 --> 01:16:49,372 “You tell Frank you don't have to worry about a thing here, 1142 01:16:49,396 --> 01:16:51,239 we're gonna win the next races for him.“ 1143 01:16:54,693 --> 01:16:55,535 And it's go. 1144 01:16:55,611 --> 01:17:00,287 A superb start for Nigel Mansell, who has already passed Nelson Piquet. 1145 01:17:02,409 --> 01:17:07,836 And it's Senna, Manse“, Piquet is the running order at the present moment. 1146 01:17:07,915 --> 01:17:11,215 Manselfs touching wheels with Ayrton Senna. 1147 01:17:11,293 --> 01:17:14,422 We went to the first race and Nigel crashed on the first lap 1148 01:17:14,505 --> 01:17:18,885 whilst trying to overtake Senna in a very stupid manoeuvre. 1149 01:17:18,968 --> 01:17:20,654 Mansell appears to be out of the race 1150 01:17:20,678 --> 01:17:25,479 so up into second position ifs now Piquet and Moretto is up into third place. 1151 01:17:25,558 --> 01:17:28,778 And through into the lead goes Nelson Piquet, 1152 01:17:28,853 --> 01:17:35,907 Nelson Piquet leads on lap three, this one is for you Frank. 1153 01:17:35,985 --> 01:17:40,912 Nelson Piquet wins the 1986 Brazilian Grand Prix 1154 01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:43,789 and you will hear the crowd go absolutely mad. 1155 01:17:45,202 --> 01:17:47,296 I can say it was a very special day for me, 1156 01:17:47,371 --> 01:17:49,294 I think it's a good present for Frank, 1157 01:17:49,373 --> 01:17:52,172 I think he's there lying in a bed and uh... 1158 01:17:52,251 --> 01:17:55,801 I think he will be happy to watch the race and uh... 1159 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,305 Uh... we hope uh... that god help Frank also. 1160 01:18:00,551 --> 01:18:02,269 It was clear we had the best car 1161 01:18:02,344 --> 01:18:04,392 and the only thing that was gonna come between us 1162 01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:06,189 and winning the championship 1163 01:18:06,265 --> 01:18:10,020 was lots of intra team rivalry between Nelson and Nigel. 1164 01:18:10,060 --> 01:18:13,439 I think that, that was used actually to motivate Frank, 1165 01:18:13,522 --> 01:18:16,275 we need you Frank, to manage these two guys, 1166 01:18:16,358 --> 01:18:20,033 because there's gonna be problems if, if we just let them race free rein 1167 01:18:20,112 --> 01:18:21,992 and we need to get on top of this quite quickly. 1168 01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:25,163 Nelson claimed that Frank had said 1169 01:18:25,242 --> 01:18:26,960 you will be number one driver, 1170 01:18:27,036 --> 01:18:31,633 you will always have the spare car and the team will revolve around you. 1171 01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:35,678 I came there to win the championship, I came there as the number one driver. 1172 01:18:35,753 --> 01:18:38,848 Problem was, Nigel didn't sign as a number two driver. 1173 01:18:38,923 --> 01:18:40,766 So he drove as fast as he could 1174 01:18:40,841 --> 01:18:43,594 and quite a lot of the time that was faster than Nelson was going. 1175 01:18:43,677 --> 01:18:45,113 Nigel used to drive straight at him, 1176 01:18:45,137 --> 01:18:46,573 because Nigel was pretty aggressive, 1177 01:18:46,597 --> 01:18:48,645 I mean a couple of times Nelson said to me 1178 01:18:48,724 --> 01:18:50,601 I had two choices, be second or die. 1179 01:18:52,019 --> 01:18:54,943 I must've been a nightmare to drive with as a number two, 1180 01:18:54,980 --> 01:18:56,778 being as quick as I was at times. 1181 01:18:56,857 --> 01:19:00,907 I mean that was horrendous. You know, they hated each other. 1182 01:19:00,986 --> 01:19:06,038 Nelson insisted that we went into the hospital and saw a, 1183 01:19:06,116 --> 01:19:09,165 an almost dead, croaking Frank. 1184 01:19:09,245 --> 01:19:11,748 Saying, “Frank you said that this and whatever 1185 01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:17,052 and Patrick is running the team so that we're equal number ones with Nigel. 1186 01:19:17,127 --> 01:19:18,767 "And that's what, not what you said to me." 1187 01:19:18,837 --> 01:19:21,340 And Frank was, I mean I don't think Frank could reply to him. 1188 01:19:21,423 --> 01:19:23,266 He was almost out of it. 1189 01:19:24,635 --> 01:19:28,310 When things didn't go as well as they should've for Nelson, 1190 01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:30,391 in other words when Nigel was quicker, 1191 01:19:30,474 --> 01:19:34,695 Nelson assumed that it could only be because 1192 01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:37,398 Nigel Mansell had been given preferential treatment. 1193 01:19:37,481 --> 01:19:40,951 100% the English team wanna win the English driver, 1194 01:19:41,026 --> 01:19:45,031 Williams for sure wanted to make an English champion, not me. 1195 01:19:45,114 --> 01:19:46,957 Nelson thinks that there was 1196 01:19:47,032 --> 01:19:50,502 a bias towards Nigel because he was British. 1197 01:19:50,577 --> 01:19:53,376 I think that's not true, um 1198 01:19:53,455 --> 01:19:56,129 there could've been but Nigel was such an arse 1199 01:19:56,208 --> 01:19:58,436 that it was very difficult to have a natural bias to him, 1200 01:19:58,460 --> 01:20:01,259 I mean on one occasion, I do remember he was whinging about something, 1201 01:20:01,338 --> 01:20:03,887 “Oh did you see what he did to me then?", on the radio, 1202 01:20:03,966 --> 01:20:09,268 and Patrick said, on the radio, “For fuck's sake, stop whinging Nigel” 1203 01:20:09,346 --> 01:20:11,565 and switched his radio off. 1204 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,895 Patrick carried the business in my absence, it was very hard on him. 1205 01:20:15,978 --> 01:20:18,026 Paddy was left lumbered, 1206 01:20:18,105 --> 01:20:21,450 an enormous amount of responsibility, he wasn't ready for. 1207 01:20:21,525 --> 01:20:25,075 I was up to my eyebrows with two guys 1208 01:20:25,154 --> 01:20:28,374 that both were determined to be world champion that year 1209 01:20:28,449 --> 01:20:30,793 and were not gonna take for me saying. 1210 01:20:30,868 --> 01:20:33,166 "Sorry I can't make a decent job of running your car" 1211 01:20:33,245 --> 01:20:36,419 because I'm too worried about Frank Williams so uh... 1212 01:20:36,498 --> 01:20:42,551 It was a very stressful, very difficult time in the team. 1213 01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:45,883 And uh... everything went completely disaster for me, 1214 01:20:45,966 --> 01:20:47,764 but uh... Frank was not there 1215 01:20:47,843 --> 01:20:49,595 and I couldn't come to the hospital and say 1216 01:20:49,678 --> 01:20:54,400 “Frank, this has happened this, this has happened that, it's not fair“, 1217 01:20:54,475 --> 01:20:57,820 his problem was much more than my problem. 1218 01:21:07,529 --> 01:21:09,623 Frank was still in intensive care 1219 01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:13,328 and he remained in intensive care for quite a time and it was another, 1220 01:21:13,410 --> 01:21:17,631 I think it was 12 weeks um before he eventually came home 1221 01:21:17,706 --> 01:21:20,755 but they were the longest weeks you could imagine. 1222 01:21:30,260 --> 01:21:34,686 We all were just relieved and thrilled that dad made it 1223 01:21:34,765 --> 01:21:36,563 and he was home and we got him home. 1224 01:21:37,935 --> 01:21:40,063 Yes it was a very different kind of life 1225 01:21:40,145 --> 01:21:43,615 but we had dad still and we were a family still 1226 01:21:43,690 --> 01:21:46,739 and he still had Formula 1 and that's what kept him going. 1227 01:21:48,445 --> 01:21:50,743 Frank Williams is quadriplegic, 1228 01:21:50,781 --> 01:21:51,907 from his shoulders down 1229 01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:54,584 he has no control over the functions of his own body. 1230 01:21:55,828 --> 01:21:58,126 Less than six months after the accident 1231 01:21:58,205 --> 01:22:00,378 he had ruthlessly forced enough movement 1232 01:22:00,457 --> 01:22:04,712 into his partly functioning shoulders to push himself along, 1233 01:22:04,795 --> 01:22:08,720 but his arms are just pistons of flesh and bones, with no feeling. 1234 01:22:10,092 --> 01:22:13,346 He's paralysed from his shoulders literally downwards, 1235 01:22:13,429 --> 01:22:16,228 he can lift his arms and he can, for example, 1236 01:22:16,306 --> 01:22:17,786 if he wants to scratch him in his face 1237 01:22:17,850 --> 01:22:21,946 he pushes his hands against his face um 1238 01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:24,022 but he can't, he can't use his fingers. 1239 01:22:41,498 --> 01:22:42,976 Why does it say hell on wheels? 1240 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,000 Um... 1241 01:22:47,045 --> 01:22:49,969 Um it's because Dad's life is hell in a wheelchair. 1242 01:22:53,010 --> 01:22:54,529 He's always in a lot of pain all the time, 1243 01:22:54,553 --> 01:22:56,226 I don't think people realise that, 1244 01:22:56,305 --> 01:23:00,276 how much pain Frank is in, every day of his life, every minute of every day. 1245 01:23:01,351 --> 01:23:03,163 You wouldn't know it though would you? 1246 01:23:03,187 --> 01:23:07,067 No you wouldn't think he has anything to complain about. 1247 01:23:07,149 --> 01:23:09,698 Dad never does think he has anything to complain about. 1248 01:23:11,153 --> 01:23:14,874 That's a lovely picture of mum and, well not so good of dad, lovely of mum. 1249 01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:19,499 And what about Ginny, how did Ginny react? 1250 01:23:19,578 --> 01:23:22,252 Well it was tough, tough, very tough I think. Very tough lady. 1251 01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:26,131 Um but she didn't fall apart, she took very good care of me. 1252 01:23:27,211 --> 01:23:28,838 It must've been very hard for her, 1253 01:23:28,921 --> 01:23:30,923 suddenly you're not a proper husband anymore 1254 01:23:31,006 --> 01:23:32,966 and have to spend a lot of time looking after him. 1255 01:23:34,551 --> 01:23:37,896 It's very difficult for anyone who hasn't lived with a quadriplegic, 1256 01:23:37,971 --> 01:23:42,067 to know what it's like to almost lose your husband but not quite. 1257 01:24:06,250 --> 01:24:09,254 Well their relationship clearly was likely to change 1258 01:24:09,336 --> 01:24:14,888 um in that Frank needed care at all times of the day and night 1259 01:24:14,967 --> 01:24:18,562 so if it was a different kind of life for, for Frank 1260 01:24:18,637 --> 01:24:22,687 it was gonna be an equally different kind of life for, for Virginia. 1261 01:24:27,062 --> 01:24:30,737 'l'm not usually given to making New Year's resolutions, 1262 01:24:30,816 --> 01:24:34,366 but at the end of 1988 I decided that I would spend the following year 1263 01:24:34,444 --> 01:24:36,867 setting down everything that has happened to Frank and me 1264 01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:38,369 in the last two decades. 1265 01:24:38,448 --> 01:24:40,542 Both before and after the car accident, 1266 01:24:40,617 --> 01:24:43,746 which left him permanently paralysed from the neck down. 1267 01:24:43,829 --> 01:24:45,627 I felt it might act as an exorcism. 1268 01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:48,710 A way to put it all behind me and start to look forward again.' 1269 01:24:50,210 --> 01:24:52,355 Reading it, it was like, Jesus Christ, she went through this 1270 01:24:52,379 --> 01:24:54,131 and she didn't tell anyone, 1271 01:24:54,214 --> 01:24:56,512 you know she didn't share that burden with anybody. 1272 01:24:58,010 --> 01:25:00,229 Why do you think she shared it, then? 1273 01:25:00,304 --> 01:25:03,399 She says that it was a cathartic exercise for her, 1274 01:25:03,473 --> 01:25:05,350 because Dad's the star isn't he? 1275 01:25:05,434 --> 01:25:06,731 Dad's the one in the spotlight, 1276 01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:09,984 Dad's the one that everyone goes Frank Williams is amazing, 1277 01:25:10,063 --> 01:25:11,940 Frank Williams is wonderful 1278 01:25:11,982 --> 01:25:14,326 and for all those years Mum had been in the background, 1279 01:25:14,401 --> 01:25:16,449 I don't think she did it, she didn't wanna do it 1280 01:25:16,528 --> 01:25:18,155 because she wanted fame or adulation, 1281 01:25:18,238 --> 01:25:22,493 she just did it because she wanted to, people to know the full story. 1282 01:25:23,493 --> 01:25:27,168 'His memory of the early days after his accident is blurred and vague, 1283 01:25:27,247 --> 01:25:29,466 he has never asked me what it was like in France 1284 01:25:29,499 --> 01:25:31,217 or in the London hospital 1285 01:25:31,293 --> 01:25:35,639 or what it has been like for me these past few years, now he will know.' 1286 01:25:38,050 --> 01:25:40,769 Have you, have you read her book? 1287 01:25:40,844 --> 01:25:42,266 No, I don't want to. 1288 01:25:42,346 --> 01:25:43,865 Why do you not want to read it? 1289 01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:45,687 That's a peculiar emotion. 1290 01:25:48,977 --> 01:25:50,775 I think, I would like him to read it, 1291 01:25:50,854 --> 01:25:54,154 um because I think that it would be respectful to Mum 1292 01:25:54,232 --> 01:25:57,361 um to understand what she did go through but I just, 1293 01:25:57,444 --> 01:26:01,540 you know I think, 1294 01:26:01,615 --> 01:26:05,210 I dunno I just think it's probably too much for Dad to read it, 1295 01:26:05,285 --> 01:26:08,255 he doesn't feel any need to, but I wish he would. 1296 01:26:10,749 --> 01:26:13,093 Do you think you ever will read it? 1297 01:26:13,168 --> 01:26:16,889 Maybe, before I die, but not, not imminently that's for sure. 1298 01:26:20,008 --> 01:26:20,850 That picture must be. 1299 01:26:20,926 --> 01:26:23,395 Frank's first Grand Prix after his accident, 1300 01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:26,932 big change of life for all of us. 1301 01:26:41,655 --> 01:26:47,788 When Frank appeared in the wheelchair the crowd just went crazy. 1302 01:26:48,829 --> 01:26:50,098 It's great fun to be with the team, 1303 01:26:50,122 --> 01:26:51,802 it's great fun to be at a race track again. 1304 01:26:54,334 --> 01:26:55,436 Back at the track, 1305 01:26:55,460 --> 01:26:57,383 Frank Williams savoured his team's success 1306 01:26:57,421 --> 01:26:59,048 for the first time this season, 1307 01:26:59,131 --> 01:27:03,136 Piquet and Mansell took first and third places in practice. 1308 01:27:03,218 --> 01:27:06,563 He did have a really sort of symbolic visit 1309 01:27:06,638 --> 01:27:08,356 but he was determined to be there 1310 01:27:08,432 --> 01:27:12,107 because he wanted the world of Formula 1 1311 01:27:12,185 --> 01:27:17,487 to know that he was still around and ostensibly still in control 1312 01:27:17,566 --> 01:27:24,120 but he played no part at all and was very much a show appearance. 1313 01:27:25,323 --> 01:27:29,248 But my father only attended on the Friday, the practice day 1314 01:27:29,327 --> 01:27:32,080 and that was all he was physically up for. 1315 01:27:33,331 --> 01:27:36,585 The lights for red and go! 1316 01:27:38,336 --> 01:27:42,307 And Piquet leads, Mansell is second into clearways... 1317 01:27:44,384 --> 01:27:47,479 The two Williams cars in their battle for leadership, 1318 01:27:47,554 --> 01:27:51,900 toe-to-toe, eyeball to eyeball, almost wheel to wheel. 1319 01:27:52,934 --> 01:27:54,607 Nelson and Nigel 1320 01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:57,610 really, really started to slug it out with one another. 1321 01:27:57,689 --> 01:28:01,068 Nigel wasn't afraid to be half an inch, an inch away from anybody 1322 01:28:01,151 --> 01:28:03,074 if he had to be, erm, and he was 1323 01:28:03,153 --> 01:28:08,284 and it was serious motor racing between the two Williams Honda drivers. 1324 01:28:08,366 --> 01:28:10,084 And there he goes, 1325 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,414 Nigel Mansell leads the British Grand Prix 1326 01:28:13,497 --> 01:28:17,252 from the man who is his greatest competition. 1327 01:28:17,334 --> 01:28:20,213 Piquet's going for it as they go down into the right hander 1328 01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:23,640 at Paddock and Mansell's absolutely on the racing line, 1329 01:28:23,715 --> 01:28:26,093 there are no orders between these two. 1330 01:28:26,176 --> 01:28:28,929 From the pit wall, that was the first time I remember 1331 01:28:29,012 --> 01:28:32,858 not actually enjoying the race because I was so sweaty palmed 1332 01:28:32,933 --> 01:28:35,277 as to what might happen between the two of them 1333 01:28:36,603 --> 01:28:39,447 and I think Frank was back home watching it on TV, 1334 01:28:39,523 --> 01:28:43,619 probably as nervous as the rest of the team was at that point. 1335 01:28:43,693 --> 01:28:44,837 Piquet going through on the inside 1336 01:28:44,861 --> 01:28:45,862 but he's gonna be blocked 1337 01:28:45,946 --> 01:28:49,450 "and he has been and Manse" holds the lead. Great stuff. 1338 01:28:52,035 --> 01:28:54,663 Nigel Mansell exits the last corner, 1339 01:28:54,746 --> 01:28:58,376 "crosses the line and Manse" is the winner. 1340 01:28:58,458 --> 01:29:01,462 Great stuff. Wonderful drive. 1341 01:29:04,172 --> 01:29:07,927 Nigel has broken his back, he's broken his neck, 1342 01:29:08,009 --> 01:29:11,513 he is now number one in the world championship 1343 01:29:11,596 --> 01:29:13,690 and just listen to the crowd. 1344 01:29:20,981 --> 01:29:24,451 After the race it wasn't normal 1345 01:29:24,526 --> 01:29:28,247 for a team manager or team representative 1346 01:29:28,321 --> 01:29:31,416 to be on the podium, but on this occasion, 1347 01:29:31,491 --> 01:29:36,167 because Frank had been there for the test and because it was Nigel 1348 01:29:36,246 --> 01:29:40,592 and because it was Brands Hatch, Ginny was invited up, 1349 01:29:40,667 --> 01:29:45,343 to take the Constructor's Trophy on behalf of Frank. 1350 01:29:45,380 --> 01:29:48,259 Now behind Alain Prost, 1351 01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:50,394 the woman is Ginny Williams. 1352 01:29:50,468 --> 01:29:52,108 You'll just see her in a minute I expect. 1353 01:29:52,137 --> 01:29:55,562 There's Ginny Williams and, and Patrick Head, 1354 01:29:55,640 --> 01:30:01,113 the designer of the winning Williams car. Oh what a day. 1355 01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:04,566 And there is Ginny holding up the trophy. 1356 01:30:06,818 --> 01:30:09,714 To me, that photograph is one of my favourite photographs of Ginny 1357 01:30:09,738 --> 01:30:13,618 because she's got this expression on her face where it's just like, yes! 1358 01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:18,288 It was a tremendous moment 1359 01:30:18,371 --> 01:30:20,465 because of what Ginny had gone through, 1360 01:30:20,540 --> 01:30:22,759 because the accident just didn't happen to Frank, 1361 01:30:22,834 --> 01:30:24,381 it happened to everybody 1362 01:30:24,461 --> 01:30:27,214 but the closest person it happened to was his dear wife. 1363 01:30:42,437 --> 01:30:43,437 Hi Preston. 1364 01:30:53,198 --> 01:30:54,791 How we doing there Jimmy Jock the Noo? 1365 01:30:54,866 --> 01:30:55,927 Alright thanks Frank. 1366 01:30:55,951 --> 01:30:59,956 Is Biggles under control is he? Very hard work isn't it? 1367 01:31:05,835 --> 01:31:08,554 And the best therapy Frank ever had 1368 01:31:08,630 --> 01:31:12,635 was being back at his desk with a phone that Nelson gave him actually, 1369 01:31:12,717 --> 01:31:15,766 which allowed him to tap numbers on, big numbers on a pad 1370 01:31:15,845 --> 01:31:18,644 and he had a headset on, make his own phone calls. 1371 01:31:20,141 --> 01:31:22,519 Mentally he said, 1372 01:31:22,602 --> 01:31:25,981 “So long as I'm on the phone, so long as I can talk, I'm going motor racing.” 1373 01:31:28,191 --> 01:31:34,619 Basil Hill Road 1374 01:31:45,250 --> 01:31:49,346 Mentally, how do you think the disability has affected Frank? 1375 01:31:49,421 --> 01:31:51,232 I did ask, ask him a couple of times 1376 01:31:51,256 --> 01:31:53,099 when we, when we are alone in the car if, 1377 01:31:53,174 --> 01:31:57,850 if he sometimes thinks of running again and stuff like that 1378 01:31:57,929 --> 01:32:00,808 but he said he gave that thought up completely now, 1379 01:32:00,890 --> 01:32:03,939 he is completely in peace with the situation 1380 01:32:04,019 --> 01:32:05,746 and I think this is also what you get from him, 1381 01:32:05,770 --> 01:32:09,240 he's not sitting there and thinks "Oh shit I should have, I should have, 1382 01:32:09,315 --> 01:32:10,532 just got on with it." 1383 01:32:12,402 --> 01:32:14,279 I can truthfully, and I'm not bragging, 1384 01:32:14,362 --> 01:32:15,673 I had a major business on my mind, 1385 01:32:15,697 --> 01:32:18,325 a racing team, it's like having a hard-on all your life? 1386 01:32:18,408 --> 01:32:19,885 It's like having a hard-on all your life? 1387 01:32:19,909 --> 01:32:21,752 Aren't you jealous of what I do? 1388 01:32:21,828 --> 01:32:24,206 Running a Grand Prix team, owning a Grand Prix team, 1389 01:32:24,289 --> 01:32:27,964 I run racing cars and world famous drivers all of the time, 1390 01:32:28,043 --> 01:32:29,920 it's, I think it's a great privilege. 1391 01:32:36,134 --> 01:32:38,094 You know it's Jamie's birthday today dad? 1392 01:32:41,056 --> 01:32:43,256 Dad you need to choose which cards you want to give him. 1393 01:32:45,477 --> 01:32:48,196 Is he about 28? 1394 01:32:48,271 --> 01:32:50,694 He's about 32 actually, dad now, yeah. 1395 01:32:54,694 --> 01:32:56,788 That's my signature.. 1396 01:32:56,863 --> 01:32:58,615 It's a bit drunkard but... 1397 01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:06,131 Jamie, you write that, Jamie. 1398 01:33:06,206 --> 01:33:09,210 So dad always gives us money for birthdays, all the time. 1399 01:33:09,292 --> 01:33:10,589 Am I giving some money. 1400 01:33:10,668 --> 01:33:12,396 You're giving him money, I've organised it. 1401 01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:13,856 - Oh. - So dad had his way, 1402 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,133 because he has no idea how, the value of money anymore, 1403 01:33:16,216 --> 01:33:19,390 because he hasn't been into a shop for about 45 years, 1404 01:33:19,469 --> 01:33:22,643 he would give us all 50p so we have to do it for him. 1405 01:33:22,722 --> 01:33:24,565 That, Claire, that's absolutely untrue. 1406 01:33:24,641 --> 01:33:27,328 It is true, but you don't really know what things cost anymore do you? 1407 01:33:27,352 --> 01:33:28,194 Not really no. 1408 01:33:28,269 --> 01:33:31,523 So how much does a newspaper cost? 1409 01:33:31,606 --> 01:33:33,779 Um up to 15 pence. 1410 01:33:33,858 --> 01:33:36,281 15 pence? 1411 01:33:54,212 --> 01:33:55,964 I personally just wanted to say, 1412 01:33:56,047 --> 01:33:59,472 along with, I know my dad, just thank you so much for all 1413 01:33:59,551 --> 01:34:01,724 the work that you've done so far this year. 1414 01:34:01,803 --> 01:34:05,023 I know it's been a really, really long season for everybody. 1415 01:34:05,098 --> 01:34:07,100 I know maybe there's a little bit of disappointment 1416 01:34:07,183 --> 01:34:08,983 that we weren't a little bit better this year, 1417 01:34:09,018 --> 01:34:12,613 but I think everybody needs to really remember where we came from, 1418 01:34:12,689 --> 01:34:15,613 and it's only been two years since we were ninth in the championship. 1419 01:34:21,739 --> 01:34:22,883 When Williams were third 1420 01:34:22,907 --> 01:34:24,534 in the championship in Abu Dhabi 1421 01:34:24,617 --> 01:34:27,336 I went into the garage at the end of the race 1422 01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:28,664 and I stood at the back 1423 01:34:28,746 --> 01:34:31,374 until all the TV cameras had finished with Claire 1424 01:34:31,457 --> 01:34:34,131 and I said I think mum's in here 1425 01:34:34,210 --> 01:34:37,214 and she's watching over you and she's thrilled. 1426 01:34:40,258 --> 01:34:41,054 I was just saying to dad, 1427 01:34:41,134 --> 01:34:43,011 it feels like forever since she's been gone, 1428 01:34:44,721 --> 01:34:46,949 I think Mum would've been a brilliant Team Principal you know, 1429 01:34:46,973 --> 01:34:51,570 I think she would've been probably the best Team Principal. 1430 01:34:51,644 --> 01:34:53,612 Formula 1 had ever seen if you'd just let her, 1431 01:34:55,315 --> 01:34:57,989 I think secretly she would've quite liked to have been TP. 1432 01:35:17,212 --> 01:35:21,718 Virginia was diagnosed with cancer in the summer of 2010, 1433 01:35:22,842 --> 01:35:25,436 I think she knew in her heart of hearts that 1434 01:35:25,511 --> 01:35:28,481 it was gonna get her and it was just a question of when. 1435 01:35:31,309 --> 01:35:34,279 She was sort of taken for granted in as much as you know 1436 01:35:34,354 --> 01:35:37,324 she was hail, hearty and fit and well, and Frank wasn't 1437 01:35:37,398 --> 01:35:39,241 so it was not in anyone's mind I guess 1438 01:35:39,317 --> 01:35:43,447 that she was as vulnerable as she obviously was. 1439 01:35:46,574 --> 01:35:48,414 I miss her, she was a lovely lady 1440 01:35:49,661 --> 01:35:53,086 and I don't know how Frank copes without her because 1441 01:35:53,164 --> 01:35:55,604 he doesn't have a lot of people to go home to talk to anymore, 1442 01:35:56,751 --> 01:35:58,003 it's quite sad really. 1443 01:36:01,214 --> 01:36:04,514 I think it affected him very deeply um, 1444 01:36:04,592 --> 01:36:07,436 more deeply possibly than he would've imagined 1445 01:36:07,512 --> 01:36:13,019 and I think that he probably came after her death to realise 1446 01:36:13,101 --> 01:36:14,899 just how much he loved her. 1447 01:36:16,187 --> 01:36:17,747 She was the foundation of. 1448 01:36:17,814 --> 01:36:19,441 Frank's life outside motor racing, 1449 01:36:19,524 --> 01:36:22,824 it was the only thing you know and uh... he did say, 1450 01:36:22,860 --> 01:36:25,864 “I'm not bothering to go home anymore", now Ginny's gone. 1451 01:36:25,947 --> 01:36:27,627 He'd just sleep in his flat in the factory, 1452 01:36:27,657 --> 01:36:30,206 he didn't bother to go home, why bother'? 1453 01:36:33,162 --> 01:36:35,836 I, I kip down the corridor most nights of the week. 1454 01:36:39,210 --> 01:36:40,006 Um... 1455 01:36:40,086 --> 01:36:41,397 Down the corridor in the factory? 1456 01:36:41,421 --> 01:36:42,421 Yeah. 1457 01:36:59,230 --> 01:37:00,916 - How are you? - Good actually. 1458 01:37:00,940 --> 01:37:02,692 Good. 1459 01:37:02,775 --> 01:37:06,075 It's lovely and warm in here for you Dad. I turned the heating up. 1460 01:37:10,616 --> 01:37:12,136 You haven't read the book, have you, pops? 1461 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,413 No, I must make the effort, so, yeah. 1462 01:37:14,495 --> 01:37:17,795 You should, you should make the effort, it's an amazing book. 1463 01:37:17,874 --> 01:37:20,468 - So you must read it. - Yeah I will, yeah ok. 1464 01:37:20,501 --> 01:37:24,631 You should do, although it is quite sad, it is quite sad. 1465 01:37:26,966 --> 01:37:30,345 'Sometimes I dream that Frank is running through the Berkshire lanes. 1466 01:37:30,428 --> 01:37:31,429 Everything is alright. 1467 01:37:33,181 --> 01:37:36,401 Early in the morning in that split second between sleeping and waking 1468 01:37:36,476 --> 01:37:39,480 I sometimes forget, as one might forget what day it is, 1469 01:37:39,562 --> 01:37:41,439 that Frank is paralysed 1470 01:37:41,522 --> 01:37:44,071 then the knife blade of reality twists sharply in my stomach, 1471 01:37:44,150 --> 01:37:45,743 jerking me back to the present, 1472 01:37:45,818 --> 01:37:49,322 how must Frank feel in that same moment of semi-consciousness? 1473 01:37:49,405 --> 01:37:52,375 What a nightmare to wake up to, to be a prisoner within your own body, 1474 01:37:52,450 --> 01:37:55,374 not even to be able to get out of bed until someone else moves you. 1475 01:37:56,913 --> 01:37:58,290 Frank also dreams, 1476 01:37:58,373 --> 01:38:00,671 he says that usually in his dreams too he is running, 1477 01:38:00,750 --> 01:38:02,878 he has made a magical recovery 1478 01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,930 and everyone is astonished to see him return to fitness 1479 01:38:06,005 --> 01:38:08,133 and turns to watch as he races past them.' 1480 01:38:09,467 --> 01:38:12,596 'We are and always have been two quite different characters, 1481 01:38:12,678 --> 01:38:15,352 Frank has never wasted his time bemoaning the past, 1482 01:38:16,349 --> 01:38:19,353 it's one of his many strengths, the past means nothing to him, 1483 01:38:19,435 --> 01:38:21,984 whether it's a world championship won or lost, 1484 01:38:22,021 --> 01:38:23,989 or a road accident that crippled him, 1485 01:38:24,065 --> 01:38:27,410 it's yesterday, it's boring, today and tomorrow are what count. 1486 01:38:27,485 --> 01:38:29,988 I in contrast am happiest with the past, 1487 01:38:30,071 --> 01:38:33,416 I prefer the past to the future that frightens me now. 1488 01:38:33,491 --> 01:38:36,210 What happened to my dreams? I wanted us to grow old together, 1489 01:38:36,285 --> 01:38:40,290 I wanted to die in Frank's arms, I'm gonna start crying. 1490 01:38:48,131 --> 01:38:50,475 'We have both grown as a result of the experience, 1491 01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:53,099 but if a fairy godmother offered to wave her magic wand 1492 01:38:53,177 --> 01:38:56,602 and take us back to the way things were when I first married Frank, 1493 01:38:56,681 --> 01:39:01,061 I would not hesitate for a second, I would happily exchange the houses, 1494 01:39:01,102 --> 01:39:04,481 the executive jets, the smart hotel rooms, the gold Rolexes 1495 01:39:04,564 --> 01:39:07,283 forjust one night in a scruffy bedroom anywhere in the world 1496 01:39:07,358 --> 01:39:13,081 with a selfish, funny, unsympathetic, unreliable, charismatic man I married. 1497 01:39:16,701 --> 01:39:21,457 I laugh much more than I used to, it helps to stop me crying.' 1498 01:39:21,539 --> 01:39:23,507 Mm. 1499 01:39:23,541 --> 01:39:25,541 - It's so sad. - Don't start crying. 1500 01:39:26,252 --> 01:39:27,344 Mm. 1501 01:39:31,883 --> 01:39:33,851 I haven't read it since mum died 1502 01:39:33,926 --> 01:39:36,896 and it's about how she will go to her grave heart broken 1503 01:39:36,971 --> 01:39:38,769 over what happened to you. 1504 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:45,772 You should be very proud. 1505 01:40:37,615 --> 01:40:39,413 What about going to the races? 1506 01:40:39,492 --> 01:40:42,621 Do you think you'll still be able to go to the Grand Prix's this year? 1507 01:40:43,829 --> 01:40:44,830 Why not? 1508 01:40:46,332 --> 01:40:47,852 I dunno, doctor's orders? 1509 01:40:49,877 --> 01:40:51,129 I'm fine. 1510 01:40:51,212 --> 01:40:54,056 I mean I'm paralysed but I'm, I probably, I spend, 1511 01:40:54,131 --> 01:40:55,234 I haven't had a day off work, 1512 01:40:55,258 --> 01:40:56,401 I don't think I've had a day off work in years, 1513 01:40:56,425 --> 01:40:58,974 I just don't get ill, never have done. 1514 01:41:01,430 --> 01:41:03,158 Frank's personality hasn't changed, 1515 01:41:03,182 --> 01:41:05,150 what he can physically do has, 1516 01:41:05,226 --> 01:41:08,355 but his approach to his racing, his love of Formula 1, 1517 01:41:08,437 --> 01:41:10,940 his obsession with it is just the same now, 1518 01:41:11,023 --> 01:41:12,650 as it has been as long as I've known him. 1519 01:41:16,028 --> 01:41:17,948 So how does a man like that retire? 1520 01:41:18,447 --> 01:41:19,633 He's not going to retire, 1521 01:41:19,657 --> 01:41:20,817 he's going to die on the job. 1522 01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,208 Well Frank will never stop. 1523 01:41:25,288 --> 01:41:27,382 Yeah he will stop when he closes his eyes. 1524 01:44:07,116 --> 01:44:09,835 Do you think you'll see Williams on top again, 1525 01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:10,910 in your lifetime? 1526 01:44:19,670 --> 01:44:21,672 Yes, certainly possible.137668

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