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[ Switch clicks, tube hums ]
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[ Tubes humming ]
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-My interest in music,
yeah, it starts when --
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when things become electric.
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-♪ They wanna get my
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♪ Gold on the ceiling
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♪ I ain't blind
-Pluggin' in
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started a music revolution.
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-Blues went electric.
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They put it on a train
and took it up North
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and plugged them in.
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Hot-wired the blues.
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[ Guitar solo ]
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-I plug it in. I get it home and
I turn it up it's like "Khhhhh."
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-"Ehrrrrr!"
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-"Euhhhhhrrrrr!"
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♪♪
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-Suddenly, you didn't need
a horn section anymore.
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-I spent most of the mid-'60s
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not hearing anything
I ever sang.
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-Electricity didn't just
turn up the volume,
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it opened up a world
of new sounds.
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-These albums
are kind of sonic fantasies
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that could never actually exist
in real life.
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-♪ I could never drown in
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-I fell in love
with the synthesizer.
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-Is this how you make up
all these songs?
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With all these --
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-We let the machines
make up the songs.
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♪♪
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-You cannot put me
anywhere near a synth.
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I don't care
if it was old-school synth,
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you know it's still
a manipulated sound.
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-♪ They wanna get my
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♪ Gold on the ceiling
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-It was like they were working
on Frankenstein.
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All day, all night.
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-This is the story
of how one epic innovation
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triggered
a musical chain reaction
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that's still
throwing off sparks today.
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♪♪
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-It's amazing technology
already happening,
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which expands
what can be created,
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'cause someone will use
one of those things,
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and by accident,
stumble into a brand new sound
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that no one's ever heard before.
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♪♪
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-Just think of what would happen
to the music business
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if we pulled the plug
on all the electricity.
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♪♪
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-Okay, then. Okay.
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-It'll be an F for you.
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-Here we go.
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Just one more time.
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-Right after I say,
"Are you sure?"
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Da da da -- yeah.
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-Oh.
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-Hal, here's how I want
to do it. Takes like this.
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-All right, it's fun time.
Fun time.
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-Here we go.
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-Oh, really?
-17, take one.
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-This will be the keeper.
-[Chuckle]
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♪♪
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[ The Who's "My Generation"
plays ]
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[ The Who's "My Generation"
plays ]
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-♪ People try to put us down
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♪ Talkin' 'bout my generation
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-Well, amplification in The Who,
uh, is a very long journey.
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-♪ Things they do
look awful cold ♪
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-I mean, I remember when The Who
first were using Beatle 100s.
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-Those are the first big amps
we ever saw;
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they're called Super Beatles.
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-And we covered the speaker
fronts with Union Jacks.
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And it was such
a fantastic celebration
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of, uh, loud music,
loud, loud, loud.
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-Incredibly loud.
Incredibly loud.
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-You didn't feel like
you were gonna be sick;
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you felt like you were gonna
float up to heaven.
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-In the area of London we lived,
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there was a shop called
Jim Marshall's,
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and he started making
amplifiers, and he says,
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"Well, I've done this,
and I've done that.
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Try this one out."
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And they gradually got bigger
and bigger.
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-It got bigger and bigger
and bigger,
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and it was like,
kind of like the, uh, arms race
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against other bands
we played with.
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[ Guitar solo ]
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If Jerry had two Fenders,
Jorma wanted two.
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Jorma went up to four.
Jerry went up four, uh, Fenders.
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♪♪
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-Everything got louder, and the
drummer had to get louder, too.
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-And we're playing 'em
harder and harder and harder.
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Too hard.
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Bob and Jerry, they were
ripping their cords out,
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trying to sing over the din.
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-♪ We'll be fighting
in the streets ♪
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-And I think I spent most
of the '60s
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not hearing anything
I ever sang.
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It made me develop a pair of
lungs that I've still got today.
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-♪ And the men
who spurred us on ♪
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-In 1976,
The Who were recognized
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as the loudest band
in the world.
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125 decibels.
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-♪ Yea-ea-ea-ea-ea-ea-h!
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♪♪
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-Over the course
of the 20th century,
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electricity and amplification
didn't just make music louder,
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it transformed it, and there's
no better example of that
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than the electric guitar.
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[ Playing outro ]
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-The electric guitar
is its own instrument.
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[ Guitar solo ]
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-It magnifies
every little nuance
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that the string gives off,
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that you probably wouldn't hear
on a regular acoustic guitar.
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[ Solo continues ]
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[ Applause ]
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The richness of tone
and the treble,
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it brings that out.
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[ Solo continues ]
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-It can sustain.
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[ Down-tempo blues playing ]
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-You can make it sound
almost voice-like.
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You can make
really gentle chords
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and almost ethereal sounds,
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and then with a flick
of the switch,
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you can knock down buildings,
you know.
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[ Up-tempo rock music plays ]
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♪♪
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-The electric guitar
became so popular
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and it gave the power
to guitarists,
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and it took all of us
a long time to go
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and wrench it back out
of their nasty, little hands.
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[ Up-tempo blues plays ]
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-Well, first thing that happened
with the electric guitar
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that was so important
was Charlie Christian.
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People don't understand
how important he really was.
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And he was discovered
by John Hammond.
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-John Hammond helped define
the landscape
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of American popular music
and jazz for a very long period.
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He put Charlie Christian
together with Benny Goodman,
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which put the electric guitar
on the...map.
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He not only went to Oklahoma
and brought him,
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he forced him on Benny Goodman.
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A black guy on the most famous
white bandleader in the country.
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And Goodman hated
guitar players!
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[ Up-tempo jazz plays ]
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-Early on in the '30s,
jazz guitar players
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were the guys in the big band
with acoustic guitars,
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and they would play chords,
just chords,
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and it wasn't loud enough
to play the melodies.
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[ Jazz music continues ]
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-So somewhere around 1939,
Gibson comes out
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with a amplifier
with the guitar.
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It's like 150 bucks, and
Charlie Christian bought one.
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-Hammond was so confident
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that Goodman
would completely freak out
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when he heard
that a guitar player
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could play like a saxophonist,
that he would change his mind,
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so he said, "Benny,
just do this one audition.
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Just, you know, he's a kid
from Oklahoma, just do it."
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[ Jazz guitar solo ]
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And as soon as Charlie
started playing,
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and that sound came out
of the amplifier,
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the Benny Goodman sextet
was born.
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[ Solo continues ]
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-For the first time, the guitar
was not a background instrument.
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Used to be dominated
by saxophones and trumpets.
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Now, when you needed
any more power,
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just turn that amplifier up.
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♪♪
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-Well, I'm a big
Charlie Christian fan.
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♪♪
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He's definitely
the first rock guitarist.
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You can see
from there to Hendrix,
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he's just blowing
everybody away.
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-The fact
that there was a black man
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playing an electric guitar,
it opened up the doors,
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'cause when you hear his sound,
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it's -- there's a direct
connection between the tone
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of Charlie Christian's
instrument and the blues.
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♪♪
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-It's difficult
to think about music
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without thinking about
the blues.
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When you love music,
no matter what --
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You like punk rock,
or pop music, or rock 'n' roll,
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or jazz, or rockabilly, country,
they all lead right back
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to the blues;
that's the root of all of it.
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♪♪
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-I didn't get an electric
guitar till 1946.
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It would cost about $100 for
the amplifier and the guitar.
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But the people just
making a living on the farm
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ain't getting no guitar
too much, you know what I mean?
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♪ Standing at a corner
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♪ Fell down on my knees
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♪ At a corner
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-When I was young, I'd never
seen an electric guitar,
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and where we lived
it wouldn't have did me
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any good anyway
because we had no electricity.
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-This area in Mississippi
gave birth
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to this incredible
laundry list of people
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who are the pioneers
of the blues.
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Honeyboy Edwards,
Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters,
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and some of them, of course,
left there.
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[ Blues music plays ]
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-From the early 1920s,
you have this massive migration
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of African Americans
from South to North.
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Chicago absorbs a lot
of Southern black migrants.
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People call it the Up South.
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-But really why I left the South
for was to make records.
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I couldn't find no way to get
to make records down there.
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I couldn't get no connections,
you know.
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Said,
"Well, I'm going to Chicago.
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-♪ Well, I'm goin' away
to leave ♪
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♪ Won't be back no more
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♪ Going back down South
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-Every bit of music
that happens,
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happens in the context
of a space.
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So at some point, somebody said,
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"Hey, we can't -- we can't hear
this acoustic guitar
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over the amount of people
who are here."
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-And you playin'
without an amplifier,
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and people havin' a little fun,
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takin' a little nip,
they forget you there.
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-So let's plug it in.
Let's, like,
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let's -- let's ramp it up.
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-♪ Got my mojo workin'
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♪ But it just don't work
on you ♪
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-The difference
in the Mississippi Delta Blues
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and Chicago Blues was they
basically just put it on a train
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and took it up North
and plugged it in.
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Hot-wired the blues.
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-♪ My command
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♪ Got my mojo workin'
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-♪ Got my mojo workin'
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-When the arc of the blues
hits Muddy Waters,
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at that time with the
electrification of instruments,
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it was all roads
perfectly met in one man,
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in Chicago, in that moment.
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Then when
the blues invaded England,
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to me is one of the most
important moments in music,
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because somebody
had to recognize these guys
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for the musical heroes
that they were.
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-♪ I don't want you to
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♪ Be no slave
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-It was fairly surreal,
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the transfer of this music
into England.
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Blues was completely different
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to anything
that we'd ever heard before,
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and it just had
a natural attraction.
252
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-♪ I just want to make
253
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♪ love to you
254
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♪ Love to you
255
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-Mick Jagger and Keith Richards,
I think,
256
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had gone to school together,
they had known each other,
257
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but they meet
on a train platform in London
258
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and Mick has
a Muddy Waters record
259
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and Keith looks at him and says,
"What's that, mate?"
260
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you know, and that says a lot,
doesn't it?
261
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They love, revere, the blues,
you know, they've studied it,
262
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they are so heavily
influenced by it.
263
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-♪ I just wanna make
love to you ♪
264
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♪ Baby, love to you
265
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♪ Baby, love to you
266
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-Well, I didn't quite know
how to take the Rolling Stones.
267
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It sounded like they were
268
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trying to sing badly.
269
00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,333
You know, it sounded like
they were going out of their way
270
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to not hit the right notes,
you know what I mean?
271
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-♪ I don't want you
to wash my clothes ♪
272
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-The Rolling Stones
were the bad boys
273
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of English rock 'n' roll,
274
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and, and they were always
marketed that way.
275
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They may not have been,
276
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but that was the way
they were marketed.
277
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-♪ I just wanna make
love to you ♪
278
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♪ Baby, love to you
279
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♪ Baby, love to you
280
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-Keith is the riff meister.
281
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How in the world does he come up
282
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with something like
"Satisfaction"?
283
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[ Cheers and applause ]
284
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[ Rolling Stones's "(I Can't
Get No) Satisfaction" plays ]
285
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♪♪
286
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♪ I can't get no
287
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♪ Satisfaction
288
00:13:49,133 --> 00:13:51,933
-That really was the moment
that changed everything.
289
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When "Satisfaction" came out,
that was it.
290
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The Stones were the number-one
rock 'n' roll band.
291
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♪ And I try, and I try,
and I try ♪
292
00:14:01,066 --> 00:14:03,833
♪ I can't get no
293
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♪ I can't get no
294
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♪ Oh, when I'm driving
in my car ♪
295
00:14:09,766 --> 00:14:12,466
-Prior to that song,
296
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Brian Jones had always provided
all the riffs.
297
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So when they went to America
and recorded "Satisfaction"
298
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and brought it back, the fact
that Keith had played a riff
299
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at all was pretty astonishing.
300
00:14:22,033 --> 00:14:24,700
Equally, the fact that it had
such an amazing influence
301
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on the song
was quite remarkable.
302
00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:29,833
[ Guitar tuning ]
303
00:14:29,933 --> 00:14:31,433
-I mean, it was a big deal
304
00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:33,833
when I learned
that a lot of the stuff,
305
00:14:33,933 --> 00:14:37,466
like, that I was
scratching my head over,
306
00:14:37,566 --> 00:14:40,300
when I realized
it was in a different tuning.
307
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,100
That's how he was doing
that thing, you know?
308
00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,766
It all started to make sense,
you know?
309
00:14:44,866 --> 00:14:46,666
Muddy Waters would have used
this tuning a lot.
310
00:14:46,766 --> 00:14:48,833
This was like, "Oh, yeah,
Keith Richards was doing..."
311
00:14:48,933 --> 00:14:51,900
[ Strumming guitar ]
312
00:14:55,766 --> 00:14:57,866
-Err-err [Laughs]
313
00:14:57,966 --> 00:15:01,000
You know, just think of it
in terms of human speech,
314
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what, the attitude
behind making a sou--
315
00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:04,500
[ Grunts ]
316
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,233
It's like a machine gun,
man, you know.
317
00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:09,366
That's -- that -- that's --
That's the statement being made.
318
00:15:09,466 --> 00:15:13,033
That's what -- what -- what
Keith's doing with that sound,
319
00:15:13,133 --> 00:15:16,200
that's -- that's what
Mick's doing with the vocal.
320
00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:19,766
-♪ When I'm driving in my car
321
00:15:19,866 --> 00:15:23,033
♪ And a man comes on the radio
322
00:15:23,133 --> 00:15:25,566
♪ And tellin' me more and more
323
00:15:25,666 --> 00:15:28,666
♪ About some
useless information ♪
324
00:15:28,766 --> 00:15:32,533
-It's this cocky,
rebellious music.
325
00:15:32,633 --> 00:15:35,600
It's, like, right in the face
of the oppressor.
326
00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:37,533
Get the...out of my way.
327
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[ Laughs ]
328
00:15:38,966 --> 00:15:41,333
And that -- And if you're
14 years old,
329
00:15:41,433 --> 00:15:42,833
it's audio testosterone.
330
00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:45,066
-♪ All right
331
00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:47,666
♪ I can't get no
332
00:15:47,766 --> 00:15:50,233
-The production elements that
are employed on those records
333
00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:52,100
only enhance the message.
334
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,433
Probably the earliest use
of the fuzz-tone.
335
00:15:54,533 --> 00:15:57,100
It's very early use of that.
336
00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,933
-The first specific unit that
was made to distort a guitar
337
00:16:01,033 --> 00:16:02,600
opened up
incredible possibilities,
338
00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:04,566
just because you could
make a note sustain
339
00:16:04,666 --> 00:16:06,266
for as long as that,
apart from anything else,
340
00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:07,733
and it made it sound
more aggressive.
341
00:16:07,833 --> 00:16:09,933
-♪ Phenomenal lies
342
00:16:10,033 --> 00:16:15,466
♪ On the cosmic eternity
party line ♪
343
00:16:15,566 --> 00:16:18,233
The guitar can be a shield
and a weapon.
344
00:16:18,333 --> 00:16:20,033
It can scream when I can't.
345
00:16:20,133 --> 00:16:22,333
It can be the monster
or the villain.
346
00:16:22,433 --> 00:16:23,900
It oughta just be a noisemaker
347
00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,200
and if serving the song means
that it's a knife coming in
348
00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:30,900
and slashing the painting,
then that's what it ought to be.
349
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,500
♪ Like a birth in reverse
350
00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,766
♪ What I saw
through the blinds ♪
351
00:16:36,866 --> 00:16:38,166
-The guitar,
when it's distorted,
352
00:16:38,266 --> 00:16:40,233
sounds threatening,
even at low level.
353
00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,933
If you switch off the distortion
and then turn up the level,
354
00:16:44,033 --> 00:16:46,533
you don't feel threatened,
because it's a clear sound.
355
00:16:46,633 --> 00:16:49,566
But for some reason,
the distortion,
356
00:16:49,666 --> 00:16:51,566
it strikes, like, fear.
357
00:16:51,666 --> 00:16:54,800
-I remember when I first got
my electric guitar,
358
00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:56,033
it just didn't sound right.
359
00:16:56,133 --> 00:16:57,700
I'm like, "Wait a second.
360
00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,766
This doesn't sound like
'Revolution' by The Beatles.
361
00:16:59,866 --> 00:17:01,700
What, oh, I need
a distortion pedal?"
362
00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,166
I said, "Mom, can I please
have $25?
363
00:17:04,266 --> 00:17:06,133
I have to get this thing.
It's called a distortion --"
364
00:17:06,233 --> 00:17:07,666
"Distortion pedal, what's that?"
365
00:17:07,766 --> 00:17:09,700
So I plug it in, I get it home,
and I turn it up,
366
00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,266
it's like khhhh,
and I'm so excited!
367
00:17:12,366 --> 00:17:15,266
My mom's, like,
"Is that thing broken?"
368
00:17:15,366 --> 00:17:17,433
I'm like, "No.
Doesn't it sound great?!"
369
00:17:17,533 --> 00:17:20,233
She's like, "Absolutely not!
[Laughs] Sounds horrible!"
370
00:17:20,333 --> 00:17:23,366
[ Cream's
"Sunshine of Your Love" plays ]
371
00:17:28,266 --> 00:17:30,966
-It must've been '66, maybe.
372
00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:33,933
I was a student
at the Regent Street Poly,
373
00:17:34,033 --> 00:17:37,000
and for our end-of-term
dance, we had Cream.
374
00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:41,700
-♪ It's getting near dawn
375
00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,233
♪ When lights close
-And the curtains open.
376
00:17:43,333 --> 00:17:47,166
♪♪
377
00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:50,333
It was like ohhh!
378
00:17:50,433 --> 00:17:54,333
-♪ I've been waiting so long
379
00:17:54,433 --> 00:17:58,866
♪ To be where I'm going
380
00:17:58,966 --> 00:18:01,933
♪ In the sunshine of your
381
00:18:02,033 --> 00:18:06,166
♪ love
382
00:18:06,266 --> 00:18:10,166
♪♪
383
00:18:10,266 --> 00:18:13,266
♪ I'm with you my love
384
00:18:13,366 --> 00:18:16,266
-And it was just
an incredible moment.
385
00:18:16,366 --> 00:18:18,166
And then, they suddenly said,
386
00:18:18,266 --> 00:18:21,666
"We'd like to bring on a friend
of ours from the United States,
387
00:18:21,766 --> 00:18:23,400
who's gonna play a few songs
with us"
388
00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:25,466
and this bloke came on.
It was Jimi Hendrix.
389
00:18:25,566 --> 00:18:29,600
[ "Purple Haze" plays ]
390
00:18:33,333 --> 00:18:36,766
-He was the one that completely
upset the apple cart
391
00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:41,300
amongst the guitar fraternity
in London, I know for a fact,
392
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,933
and pretty much everywhere else.
393
00:18:43,033 --> 00:18:44,933
-Hendrix toured in soul bands,
394
00:18:45,033 --> 00:18:47,433
so he really knew soul music,
like dance music.
395
00:18:47,533 --> 00:18:50,166
He understood,
like, what made people move.
396
00:18:50,266 --> 00:18:53,266
[ Mid-tempo swing music plays ]
397
00:18:53,366 --> 00:18:56,166
-♪ Girl
398
00:18:56,266 --> 00:18:59,300
-Jimi Hendrix was
a hell of a entertainer,
399
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,900
but he was in competition
with Little Richard
400
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,966
and you don't go
on a stage with Little Richard
401
00:19:04,066 --> 00:19:06,033
and outdo Little Richard.
402
00:19:06,133 --> 00:19:07,400
Little Richard got rid of him.
403
00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:09,733
He was a genius!
404
00:19:09,833 --> 00:19:12,000
Very technical and get the...
[Imitates guitar]
405
00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:15,600
[ Guitar solo ]
406
00:19:20,633 --> 00:19:24,000
[ Cheering and whistling ]
407
00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:25,233
-He was influenced by people,
408
00:19:25,333 --> 00:19:26,833
but because
it went through his brain,
409
00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,133
it was filtered through
his mind, it sounded like him.
410
00:19:30,233 --> 00:19:33,033
[ Playing with teeth ]
411
00:19:33,133 --> 00:19:35,000
-And he was doing all this stuff
with his teeth
412
00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,700
and behind his head
and all of that.
413
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,400
I was just, like, "Oh, my."
414
00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:43,000
[ Guitar solo ]
415
00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:45,133
-He taught us
that you got to loosen up.
416
00:19:45,233 --> 00:19:46,866
The teeth in the back,
behind the head,
417
00:19:46,966 --> 00:19:48,633
we wouldn't dream of doing that.
418
00:19:48,733 --> 00:19:51,066
Can you imagine if Eric and I
had done this at the time?
419
00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:53,133
They would've just thrown...
at us, you know?
420
00:19:53,233 --> 00:19:56,033
His appearance
was also outrageous.
421
00:19:56,133 --> 00:19:57,900
I mean, he had an afro,
422
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,133
which was sort of
out of control.
423
00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:04,000
[ Guitar solo ]
424
00:20:10,166 --> 00:20:13,133
His clothes were out of control,
sexy, as well.
425
00:20:13,233 --> 00:20:16,033
I mean, all the ingredients
needed were there.
426
00:20:16,133 --> 00:20:19,933
[ Guitar solo ]
427
00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,300
He had it all.
He had fantastic technique,
428
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,133
which no one
can really get hold of.
429
00:20:28,233 --> 00:20:31,600
[ Down-tempo blues-rock plays ]
430
00:20:38,333 --> 00:20:42,966
♪♪
431
00:20:43,066 --> 00:20:49,233
-He's such a historically
aware musician.
432
00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:51,000
So he knows the masters.
433
00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:52,333
The three kings
as he called them.
434
00:20:52,433 --> 00:20:55,633
Albert, Freddie, and B.B.,
you know.
435
00:20:55,733 --> 00:20:59,533
[ Guitar solo ]
436
00:21:01,533 --> 00:21:03,566
But he's also
a psychedelic hippie,
437
00:21:03,666 --> 00:21:06,533
and he understands
the whole world of recordmaking
438
00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:10,300
as this world
of enormous possibility.
439
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,700
-Jimi Hendrix was the greatest
electric guitar player
440
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,333
I've ever seen or heard
441
00:21:16,433 --> 00:21:18,600
or had the great privilege
of recording.
442
00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:20,933
For about two weeks,
we were experimenting
443
00:21:21,033 --> 00:21:24,366
with stereo phasing, which
had never been done before.
444
00:21:24,466 --> 00:21:25,600
We said, "Jimi, come in.
445
00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:26,733
We've got something
we want to play you."
446
00:21:26,833 --> 00:21:29,933
So Jimi comes in,
and we start playing
447
00:21:30,033 --> 00:21:32,066
the middle part of
"Axis: Bold as Love"
448
00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:33,366
where the drums come in.
449
00:21:33,466 --> 00:21:35,766
It goes badoo, doo, doo,
baduckadaduckada.
450
00:21:35,866 --> 00:21:37,300
[ Drumbeat ]
451
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,266
And the phasing kicks in.
452
00:21:39,366 --> 00:21:42,533
[ Drums phasing ]
453
00:21:42,633 --> 00:21:44,533
He grabbed his head
in his hands, went,
454
00:21:44,633 --> 00:21:47,933
"Ah! Oh, my God!
I can't believe you.
455
00:21:48,033 --> 00:21:51,633
How did you do that?!
That was in my dream! Ahhh!"
456
00:21:51,733 --> 00:21:54,200
I want that on everything, man!
457
00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:57,566
And so every day
we were trying new things.
458
00:21:57,666 --> 00:22:01,333
Heavy compression,
weird types of EQ,
459
00:22:01,433 --> 00:22:03,933
backwards tapes.
460
00:22:04,033 --> 00:22:08,100
[ Chimes, cymbals playing ]
461
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,966
-These albums, like
"Electric Ladyland"
462
00:22:11,066 --> 00:22:16,100
are kind of sonic fantasies.
463
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,666
They are worlds unto themselves
464
00:22:18,766 --> 00:22:20,833
that could never actually
exist in real life.
465
00:22:20,933 --> 00:22:23,033
♪♪
466
00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:24,933
I don't think
there was any artist
467
00:22:25,033 --> 00:22:27,833
exactly like Jimi Hendrix
who could use his guitar
468
00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:31,533
to mold and sculpt
time and space,
469
00:22:31,633 --> 00:22:33,600
and just through
his guitar performance,
470
00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:37,966
could give you a complete essay
on what the '60s were like,
471
00:22:38,066 --> 00:22:41,600
on what it was like to be
an African American man
472
00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,866
who was working
in multiple genres,
473
00:22:43,966 --> 00:22:45,466
who was living in between
474
00:22:45,566 --> 00:22:47,700
certain intersections
of identity.
475
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,266
[Cheers and applause]
[Phasing]
476
00:22:53,566 --> 00:22:56,966
[ Guitar feedback ]
477
00:22:59,266 --> 00:23:01,833
When you hear
Jimi Hendrix play guitar,
478
00:23:01,933 --> 00:23:03,400
it's Jimi Hendrix's voice
479
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:06,100
screaming through
the instrument.
480
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,700
[ Guitar rumbling ]
481
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,033
He radicalized
the use and the form
482
00:23:14,133 --> 00:23:17,500
and the point
of what the guitar was,
483
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,266
and so everybody
started thinking,
484
00:23:19,366 --> 00:23:21,266
"What can I do
with a musical instrument?"
485
00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:22,900
In large part
because of The Beatles
486
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000
and what they were doing
with using Eastern instruments
487
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,533
and so on, but also I think you
have to credit Jimi Hendrix
488
00:23:27,633 --> 00:23:29,166
for changing the game.
489
00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:32,566
♪♪
490
00:23:32,666 --> 00:23:35,000
-The impulse to change
the sound of the music
491
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:36,600
was nothing new.
492
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,933
It was -- That's what
rock 'n' roll always was,
493
00:23:39,033 --> 00:23:40,933
always looking
for something different.
494
00:23:41,033 --> 00:23:45,866
Then as technology continues
to develop through the '70s,
495
00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:47,733
there's just more and more
possibilities.
496
00:23:47,833 --> 00:23:51,900
[ The Who's "Baba O'Riley"
plays ]
497
00:23:57,333 --> 00:24:00,233
♪♪
498
00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:02,800
-My first introduction
to the synthesizer
499
00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:04,400
was through Pete Townshend,
500
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,333
when he asked me to do
"Who's Next."
501
00:24:06,433 --> 00:24:09,566
And he sent me the demos that
he'd made in his own studio.
502
00:24:09,666 --> 00:24:12,100
He's an extremely
accomplished engineer.
503
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,766
[ The Who's "Baba O'Riley"
continues ]
504
00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:19,500
[ Drumbeat ]
505
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,833
I couldn't believe the sounds
506
00:24:20,933 --> 00:24:22,233
that were coming out
of these demos,
507
00:24:22,333 --> 00:24:24,466
because of the synthesizer
he'd used.
508
00:24:24,566 --> 00:24:26,633
Back in those days,
they were really complicated
509
00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:27,866
[ "Greensleeves" plays ]
and looked a bit like
510
00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:29,233
the old-fashioned
telephone exchangers,
511
00:24:29,333 --> 00:24:31,333
[laughs]
cords going everywhere.
512
00:24:31,433 --> 00:24:33,400
-There are oscillators,
which produce the sound.
513
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:36,300
Filters, amplifiers,
and envelope generators,
514
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:42,600
which shape it.
[Note descending]
515
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,400
-First of all,
he figured out how to work it,
516
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,400
but he then took it
and used it,
517
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,133
for the first time
in my experience anyway,
518
00:24:49,233 --> 00:24:50,400
in the most extraordinary way,
519
00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:53,466
"Baba O'Riley"
being a classic example.
520
00:24:53,566 --> 00:24:58,800
[ Intro to The Who's
"Baba O'Riley" plays ]
521
00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:00,566
He created a rhythm pattern
522
00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:02,600
that was not only
a very strange sound,
523
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:06,766
but the actual rhythm itself
was rather odd,
524
00:25:06,866 --> 00:25:08,300
and then wrote a song 'round it.
525
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,600
[ Band joins in ]
526
00:25:15,566 --> 00:25:19,200
And juxtaposed it against
the power of Keith Moon,
527
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,233
John Entwistle, and himself,
528
00:25:21,333 --> 00:25:23,500
playing guitar, bass, and drums.
529
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,233
And then, the extraordinary
explosive vocal
530
00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:29,366
that Roger Daltrey gives us.
531
00:25:29,466 --> 00:25:33,666
-♪ Out here in the fields
532
00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:38,233
♪ I fight for my meals
533
00:25:38,333 --> 00:25:44,300
♪ I get my back into my living
534
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,666
-One of my major problems was
to compete with Pete's demos,
535
00:25:47,766 --> 00:25:49,800
which were invariably amazing,
536
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,200
and very often, I'd steal
elements from the demo,
537
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:56,800
the synthesizer track, and then
would play that in to the band,
538
00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:58,633
and they would --
They actually recorded
539
00:25:58,733 --> 00:26:01,233
to a playback
of Pete's synthesizer,
540
00:26:01,333 --> 00:26:04,166
because the synthesizer
suggests the rhythm.
541
00:26:04,266 --> 00:26:08,366
♪♪
542
00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:10,400
-Keith had terrible trouble
with it.
543
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,333
Keith used to have to play
to a click track.
544
00:26:12,433 --> 00:26:15,000
And he used to tape
the earphones to his head,
545
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:17,266
'cause he was such
an animated drummer.
546
00:26:17,366 --> 00:26:19,433
You know, when we used to do
"Baba O'Riley"
547
00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:21,900
and "I Won't Get Fooled Again,"
to a backing track
548
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,333
of that sound, it's a fifth
member of the band.
549
00:26:26,433 --> 00:26:29,966
[ Synthesizer playing
calliope music ]
550
00:26:33,966 --> 00:26:38,633
-The synthesizer really migrated
from the music lab
551
00:26:38,733 --> 00:26:42,633
to the pop music scene because
of Bob Moog, a wonderful man.
552
00:26:42,733 --> 00:26:44,333
He was a guy
with a pencil protector.
553
00:26:44,433 --> 00:26:45,733
You know what I'm saying?
554
00:26:45,833 --> 00:26:47,466
Short-sleeved white shirt,
pencil protector,
555
00:26:47,566 --> 00:26:48,800
lots of pencils.
556
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,466
He was an engineer,
and a good one.
557
00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:53,533
[ Synthesizer playing ]
558
00:26:53,633 --> 00:26:57,533
A synthesizer means massaging
the electrons in space
559
00:26:57,633 --> 00:27:01,466
to create a new sound
from nothing.
560
00:27:01,566 --> 00:27:04,300
Bob Moog had a certain vision,
561
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,433
and a bunch of us
played into it --
562
00:27:06,533 --> 00:27:08,900
[ Ethereal tune plays ]
563
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,366
Beaver & Krause...
564
00:27:13,466 --> 00:27:17,300
Keith Emerson...
565
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,766
Silver Apples,
566
00:27:18,866 --> 00:27:23,266
Wendy Carlos, Peter Nero.
567
00:27:23,366 --> 00:27:25,900
A few people were starting
to push the synthesizer
568
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,400
into being an instrument
that people could use.
569
00:27:32,533 --> 00:27:34,433
There was no school
you could learn
570
00:27:34,533 --> 00:27:36,866
how to play the synthesizer.
There was no course.
571
00:27:36,966 --> 00:27:38,200
You just had to pick it up
and start learning.
572
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:41,600
♪♪
573
00:27:45,266 --> 00:27:48,066
But when I heard it,
my world exploded.
574
00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:51,900
I ran straight into the arms
of electronica,
575
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,600
and I ended up buying
one of the first
576
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:57,833
Moog Series III synthesizers.
577
00:27:57,933 --> 00:28:00,100
I loved it,
because it made me feel like
578
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,666
I was a U-boat captain
from another galaxy
579
00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:04,733
when I was standing
in front of it.
580
00:28:04,833 --> 00:28:06,500
And there was this
very wonderful guy
581
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,700
named Malcolm Cecil.
582
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,900
First-class
upright bass player and,
583
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,366
he was upright
and the bass was upright.
584
00:28:12,466 --> 00:28:15,500
He said, "I have to learn
how to play the synthesizer."
585
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,100
I said,
"I'll make a deal with you."
586
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,900
-And he said,
"Would you be willing to show me
587
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,633
how to record properly?"
588
00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:21,900
I said, "Well, would be willing
to show me
589
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,166
how to run that thing?"
590
00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:24,866
-"I'll show you
how to play the synthesizer,
591
00:28:24,966 --> 00:28:27,800
if you teach me how to become
a real recording engineer."
592
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,933
-And, I said, "Yes."
593
00:28:30,033 --> 00:28:33,500
[ Synthesizer playing
ethereal sounds ]
594
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,500
-And that began
our journey together.
595
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,433
♪♪
596
00:28:40,533 --> 00:28:44,900
-They were these two crazy guys,
and they built this massive bank
597
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,866
of synthesizers
they called TONTO.
598
00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:49,566
-Modules by ARP,
modules by Moog,
599
00:28:49,666 --> 00:28:51,266
modules by me and Malcolm.
600
00:28:51,366 --> 00:28:54,066
-It looked like [Laughs]
601
00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:57,433
it just took up,
I don't know, several walls,
602
00:28:57,533 --> 00:28:59,133
with the patch cords
and it was insane.
603
00:28:59,233 --> 00:29:03,866
♪♪
604
00:29:03,966 --> 00:29:06,800
-We made a record which
we weren't sure was even music.
605
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,666
It was called "Zero Time."
606
00:29:08,766 --> 00:29:11,100
Got a huge write-up
inRolling Stone
607
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,700
because it was so wacky
and weird.
608
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,166
Stevie Wonder heard it,
609
00:29:16,266 --> 00:29:18,833
and the next thing we know
there's a knocking at the door,
610
00:29:18,933 --> 00:29:21,233
and there's Stevie
in a chartreuse jumpsuit,
611
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:24,266
5:00 or 6:00 at night,
with our album under his arm,
612
00:29:24,366 --> 00:29:26,733
and he wanted to know how we
were making this kind of music.
613
00:29:26,833 --> 00:29:29,033
-I called Bob on the phone,
and said,
614
00:29:29,133 --> 00:29:31,166
"Get over here.
We've got a new client."
615
00:29:31,266 --> 00:29:32,700
-And we let him in the studio,
616
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,933
and we didn't wake up
for another five years.
617
00:29:35,033 --> 00:29:39,366
[ Stevie Wonder's
"Living for the City" plays ]
618
00:29:39,466 --> 00:29:41,233
-♪ A boy is born
619
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:44,200
♪ In hardtime Mississippi
620
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,000
♪ Surrounded by
621
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,566
♪ Four walls
that ain't so pretty ♪
622
00:29:48,666 --> 00:29:50,233
-Steve walked into that studio.
623
00:29:50,333 --> 00:29:51,866
He had so many songs in his head
624
00:29:51,966 --> 00:29:55,200
that had been pent up in there
for so many years.
625
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:58,033
I don't know.
Motown had him on a formula.
626
00:29:58,133 --> 00:30:00,700
-♪ Living just enough
627
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,433
♪ Just enough for the city
628
00:30:06,533 --> 00:30:08,666
♪ Yah
629
00:30:08,766 --> 00:30:10,400
♪ His father works
630
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:13,433
♪ Some days for 14 hours
631
00:30:13,533 --> 00:30:15,233
♪ And you can bet
632
00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:18,366
♪ He barely makes a dollar
633
00:30:18,466 --> 00:30:20,100
♪ His mother goes
634
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,100
♪ To scrub the floors for many
635
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,900
♪ And you'd best believe
636
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
♪ She hardly gets a penny
637
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,766
♪ Living just enough
638
00:30:29,866 --> 00:30:33,733
♪ Just enough for the city
639
00:30:33,833 --> 00:30:36,133
-Motown treats their artists.
640
00:30:36,233 --> 00:30:38,866
They have almost,
like, a finishing school,
641
00:30:38,966 --> 00:30:43,633
so the way the artists dressed,
the way they performed onstage,
642
00:30:43,733 --> 00:30:47,166
all cultivated
so as not to offend
643
00:30:47,266 --> 00:30:50,366
what were considered
mainstream white sensibilities.
644
00:30:50,466 --> 00:30:52,566
-And Steve turned 21
and he got --
645
00:30:52,666 --> 00:30:53,800
was really fed up with it.
646
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:55,400
He's finally reached
his majority, said,
647
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:57,900
"I'm over. I'm leaving."
648
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,933
And he came to New York,
and we just started recording.
649
00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:05,866
[ Stevie Wonder's "Superstition"
plays ]
650
00:31:05,966 --> 00:31:08,866
-It was like they were
working on Frankenstein.
651
00:31:08,966 --> 00:31:11,633
I mean, just up all day,
all night,
652
00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:15,033
and coming up
with these nuances and timbres.
653
00:31:15,133 --> 00:31:19,600
-♪ Very superstitious
654
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:24,766
♪ Writing's on the wall
655
00:31:24,866 --> 00:31:27,300
♪ Very superstitious
656
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,166
-One slight touch of a button
could give you
657
00:31:29,266 --> 00:31:30,866
a whole nother color.
658
00:31:30,966 --> 00:31:35,466
So, Malcolm and Bob's
whole job was to figure out,
659
00:31:35,566 --> 00:31:38,800
you know, what colors
were inside of his head.
660
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:40,866
-♪ Broke the lookin' glass
661
00:31:40,966 --> 00:31:43,800
-I had a two-track tape running
at all times,
662
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:47,166
because that's where
most of the ideas came from.
663
00:31:47,266 --> 00:31:49,633
And, I'd say,
"Hey, is that a song?"
664
00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:51,100
And, we'd play it back,
665
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,800
something that he was
just musing around,
666
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:54,600
and he'd go,
"Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah."
667
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:56,933
And he would get an idea,
off we would go.
668
00:31:57,033 --> 00:31:59,100
♪♪
669
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,400
We recorded well in excess
of 250 songs.
670
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,500
-When we finally got to
making an album, we said,
671
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,233
"Oh, we'll take this one
and that one,"
672
00:32:06,333 --> 00:32:10,166
and somehow, for five years,
we could do nothing wrong.
673
00:32:10,266 --> 00:32:12,566
Every record we touched
turned to gold.
674
00:32:12,666 --> 00:32:17,400
-♪ You are the sunshine
of my life ♪
675
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,033
-Grammys, platinum, gold.
676
00:32:20,133 --> 00:32:23,500
-♪ That's why
I'll always be around ♪
677
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,800
-Stevie Wonder was able
to take all the innovations
678
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:30,433
and then just bring it
to a level
679
00:32:30,533 --> 00:32:32,400
that was so simple
to understand.
680
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:35,900
It was funky enough for soul
people and rock people
681
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,200
and music lovers in general
to appreciate it.
682
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:42,066
That's hard to do.
683
00:32:42,166 --> 00:32:47,433
-♪ I feel like this is
the beginning ♪
684
00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:49,633
-There's still
a lot of controversy,
685
00:32:49,733 --> 00:32:53,333
because people feel like,
if you introduce electronics,
686
00:32:53,433 --> 00:32:56,033
you're sort of changing
the nature of the sound.
687
00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:57,766
Some people are against this,
688
00:32:57,866 --> 00:33:02,666
and Stevie not only embraces it,
he, I think, leads the pack.
689
00:33:02,766 --> 00:33:08,600
-♪ I'd find myself drowning
in my own tears ♪
690
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:11,233
♪ Ooh-whoa, oh, oh,
whoa-oh, oh ♪
691
00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:12,966
[Synthesizer playing]
♪ You are the sunshine
692
00:33:13,066 --> 00:33:15,500
♪ Of my life
693
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,566
-It's one of the most
versatile instruments.
694
00:33:18,666 --> 00:33:19,966
This thing can sound
really clean.
695
00:33:20,066 --> 00:33:21,633
It can sound like a whistle,
696
00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:25,466
or it can sound really gnarly
and, like, disgusting.
697
00:33:25,566 --> 00:33:28,133
[ Sound modulates ]
698
00:33:28,233 --> 00:33:29,433
Through the process
of looking for a sound
699
00:33:29,533 --> 00:33:30,900
that sounds like a flute,
700
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,900
I'll come up with something
that sounds like,
701
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,233
you know, someone getting,
like, stabbed in the neck.
702
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:38,433
This is my Mini-Moog.
703
00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:40,233
This one's, like,
super-modified,
704
00:33:40,333 --> 00:33:44,800
and I wanted it 'cause it's
exactly like the one Devo used
705
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:47,900
and they were, like,
the kings of the mini-Moog.
706
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,900
-We're all Devo.
707
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,733
[ Cheers and applause ]
708
00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:56,533
-The first time
I was made aware of Devo,
709
00:33:56,633 --> 00:33:58,066
I said,
"You've got to be joking.
710
00:33:58,166 --> 00:33:59,800
They spit on people.
They do all of this?
711
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:01,666
They're never
gonna do anything."
712
00:34:01,766 --> 00:34:05,466
Of course, Devo came out
with their first album,
713
00:34:05,566 --> 00:34:07,900
and they were on
"Saturday Night Live."
714
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,666
I saw them on that
and was totally blown away.
715
00:34:09,766 --> 00:34:13,933
[ Devo's "(I Can't Get No)
Satisfaction" plays ]
716
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,300
-We really were only on
college radio before that,
717
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,366
so nobody knew who we were.
718
00:34:26,466 --> 00:34:28,666
It was almost like
"Saturday Night Live"
719
00:34:28,766 --> 00:34:30,300
played a prank on the nation.
720
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,800
♪♪
721
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:35,433
"Satisfaction,"
it was like my anthem.
722
00:34:35,533 --> 00:34:38,366
I remember playing the 45
at home, you know,
723
00:34:38,466 --> 00:34:40,533
on a little portable machine.
724
00:34:40,633 --> 00:34:42,500
-♪ I can't get no
725
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,000
♪ Satisfaction
726
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,933
♪ I can't get me no
727
00:34:47,033 --> 00:34:49,466
♪ Satisfaction
728
00:34:49,566 --> 00:34:51,800
♪ And I try, and I try
729
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:53,600
♪ And I try, t-t-t-t-try, try
730
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:54,966
♪ I can't get no
731
00:34:55,066 --> 00:34:56,466
-There were people
that took offense
732
00:34:56,566 --> 00:34:59,300
to Devo covering "Satisfaction."
733
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,033
And, and there was -- 'Cause,
you know, it's like, guard dogs.
734
00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:04,400
They sniffed that we were
trying to change things
735
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:05,833
and that we wanted to, like,
736
00:35:05,933 --> 00:35:09,733
tip over the potato cart
one more time.
737
00:35:09,833 --> 00:35:14,400
10 years earlier, we were
art students at Kent State.
738
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,433
I just remember
being kind of shocked
739
00:35:16,533 --> 00:35:17,733
that all of sudden
something that came
740
00:35:17,833 --> 00:35:20,400
from just all of us announcing
that we were against
741
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,933
the war in Vietnam,
742
00:35:23,033 --> 00:35:26,933
was now Jeeps and tanks
and National Guardsmen.
743
00:35:27,033 --> 00:35:35,700
[ Barrage of gunfire ]
744
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,133
-The university campus
has been closed.
745
00:35:38,233 --> 00:35:42,433
-After all the student protests
were crushed in this country,
746
00:35:42,533 --> 00:35:45,333
everybody kind of went, "Okay,
that was a little too real.
747
00:35:45,433 --> 00:35:46,600
They killed people.
748
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:48,166
They're putting people in jail
749
00:35:48,266 --> 00:35:50,733
for disagreeing
with the government.
750
00:35:50,833 --> 00:35:53,400
Let's just go back
to having a good time."
751
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:58,966
So, the bands like Kansas and
Styx and Foreigner came along
752
00:35:59,066 --> 00:36:02,666
and the politics were kind of,
like, "I'm white.
753
00:36:02,766 --> 00:36:04,466
I'm a misogynist.
754
00:36:04,566 --> 00:36:07,333
I'm a conspicuous consumer
and I'm proud of it."
755
00:36:07,433 --> 00:36:11,133
And, we were, like,
"What happened to Bob Dylan?
756
00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:12,600
What happened
to all these people
757
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:16,800
that had something to say and
were critiquing our culture?"
758
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:20,966
I remember watching footage
of medical evacuations,
759
00:36:21,066 --> 00:36:22,433
you know, from Vietnam,
and I thought,
760
00:36:22,533 --> 00:36:24,000
"Those are the kind
of sounds I need.
761
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:25,533
I want to make music
with helicopters
762
00:36:25,633 --> 00:36:29,233
and with ray guns
and with lasers.
763
00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:31,166
I want to make music
where we're using sounds
764
00:36:31,266 --> 00:36:33,633
that have something to do with
what's going on in our world."
765
00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:36,500
[ Synthesizer sounds playing ]
766
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,866
I'd been interested
in synthesizers
767
00:36:38,966 --> 00:36:44,166
and really felt that technology
was leading the way.
768
00:36:44,266 --> 00:36:46,400
-You've got to explain all this
to us. I mean, like, is this how
769
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,566
you sort of make up all these
songs, with all these --
770
00:36:48,666 --> 00:36:50,333
-Well, we let the machines
make up the songs.
771
00:36:50,433 --> 00:36:51,900
We just are
the human instruments.
772
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,966
-We're using technology
to make caveman sounds.
773
00:36:55,066 --> 00:36:56,466
-♪ Wha-hoo
774
00:36:56,566 --> 00:36:58,533
♪ Ooh-ooh, ooh
775
00:36:58,633 --> 00:36:59,600
♪ Ooh
776
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:01,133
♪ Wha-hoo
777
00:37:01,233 --> 00:37:03,400
♪ Ooh-ooh, ooh
778
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:04,400
♪ Ooh
779
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:05,900
♪ Wha-hoo
780
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,500
♪ Ooh-ooh, ooh
781
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,866
♪ Ooh
782
00:37:09,966 --> 00:37:11,200
-For the first couple records,
783
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:12,833
our record company
just thought of us
784
00:37:12,933 --> 00:37:17,066
as this weird little art band,
but "Freedom of Choice,"
785
00:37:17,166 --> 00:37:19,566
that album,
still kind of robotic,
786
00:37:19,666 --> 00:37:24,066
but we hired a producer
named Bob Margouleff.
787
00:37:24,166 --> 00:37:25,833
[ Engine starts ]
788
00:37:25,933 --> 00:37:27,400
[ Siren wails ]
789
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:29,766
-I'm sitting there
in the front office,
790
00:37:29,866 --> 00:37:31,800
and these two little
Volkswagen Bugs
791
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,333
come into the parking lot
792
00:37:34,433 --> 00:37:36,066
and the Devos get out.
793
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,533
They're wearing jumpsuits
794
00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:43,733
and hard hats
with like a tank on the side
795
00:37:43,833 --> 00:37:46,200
with a plastic hose
going up their noses.
796
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:48,966
Even the jaded people
at the record plant
797
00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:50,566
had to look at that one twice.
798
00:37:50,666 --> 00:37:52,266
♪♪
799
00:37:52,366 --> 00:37:54,266
But how did I construct
the record?
800
00:37:54,366 --> 00:37:57,533
The same way I constructed the
record with Steve and Malcolm.
801
00:37:57,633 --> 00:38:00,800
♪♪
802
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:04,066
The records have their same
root, the Moog synthesizer.
803
00:38:06,666 --> 00:38:08,666
The synthesizer
is every instrument.
804
00:38:08,766 --> 00:38:10,733
It depends
on how you want to use it.
805
00:38:10,833 --> 00:38:16,066
♪♪
806
00:38:16,166 --> 00:38:18,400
[ Cheers and applause ]
807
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,466
-The electric guitar
was still the primary instrument
808
00:38:21,566 --> 00:38:23,933
of album-oriented rock.
809
00:38:24,033 --> 00:38:26,466
In the mid-1970s,
that really starts to change,
810
00:38:26,566 --> 00:38:29,133
especially with the rise
of disco.
811
00:38:29,233 --> 00:38:31,100
Real watershed moment
812
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,966
was when people heard,
for the first time,
813
00:38:34,066 --> 00:38:37,600
Giorgio Moroder and
Donna Summer, "I Feel Love."
814
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:40,733
[ Donna Summer's "I Feel Love"
plays ]
815
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,833
-First, I took down
a click track.
816
00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:48,900
Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick,
817
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,800
and automatically
the rhythm was
818
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:54,400
♪ Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun,
dun, dun, dun ♪
819
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:58,133
Whatever the synthesizer
could do.
820
00:38:58,233 --> 00:38:59,666
But I didn't have a melody,
821
00:38:59,766 --> 00:39:03,566
so I started
to sing a melody on top,
822
00:39:03,666 --> 00:39:07,200
then Donna Summer came in
and wrote the lyrics
823
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:08,800
and she sang it.
824
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:11,666
-♪ Ooh
825
00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,533
♪ It's so good, it's so good,
it's so good ♪
826
00:39:14,633 --> 00:39:18,566
♪ It's so good, it's so good
827
00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:20,833
Growing up, I wanted to have
more of that, you know,
828
00:39:20,933 --> 00:39:23,900
like R&B sound, but my voice
was always really kind of pure.
829
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,800
♪ Ooh
830
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:29,466
♪ I'm in love, I'm in love,
I'm in love ♪
831
00:39:29,566 --> 00:39:32,400
♪ I'm in love, I'm in love
832
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:35,333
So when we started making music
with the synthesizers,
833
00:39:35,433 --> 00:39:38,666
I felt at home in that
kind of synthesized space.
834
00:39:38,766 --> 00:39:41,633
♪ Oooh
835
00:39:41,733 --> 00:39:44,466
♪ I feel love, I feel love,
I feel love ♪
836
00:39:44,566 --> 00:39:45,933
♪ I feel love, I feel love
837
00:39:46,033 --> 00:39:48,633
I was so caught up in
producing the music at the time,
838
00:39:48,733 --> 00:39:52,266
but I think in retrospect,
I see the door that we opened.
839
00:39:52,366 --> 00:39:53,800
♪ I feel
840
00:39:53,900 --> 00:40:00,166
♪ lo-o-o-o-o-ve
841
00:40:00,266 --> 00:40:02,300
♪ I feel love
842
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,666
-During the mix, the engineer
gave me a delay in the bassline,
843
00:40:07,766 --> 00:40:10,133
and instead of doing,
dun, dun, dun, dun, dun,
844
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,100
We do, duttle, duttle, duttle,
duttle, duttle, duttle.
845
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,666
They'll repeat.
846
00:40:13,766 --> 00:40:18,733
And I was suddenly, I said,
"This is -- this is it!"
847
00:40:18,833 --> 00:40:21,500
The reaction was absolutely
fantastic and,
848
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,966
after a few months, it was
number one all over the place.
849
00:40:25,066 --> 00:40:26,966
It's the most requested
song of mine.
850
00:40:27,066 --> 00:40:29,233
-♪ Fallin' free, fallin' free,
fallin' free ♪
851
00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:33,766
♪ Fallin' free, fallin' free
852
00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:36,433
♪♪
853
00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:39,333
-It's not something that
can easily be reproduced live.
854
00:40:39,433 --> 00:40:41,866
The song
is totally synthesized.
855
00:40:41,966 --> 00:40:44,866
-Even the drums
are a synthesizer.
856
00:40:44,966 --> 00:40:46,666
-When people heard it,
they suddenly realized
857
00:40:46,766 --> 00:40:48,500
that there were all kinds
of new possibilities
858
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,033
for popular music that had
nothing to do with the guitar,
859
00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:54,000
that had nothing to do even with
traditional instrumentation.
860
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:58,733
-That possibility,
to make music out of technology,
861
00:40:58,833 --> 00:41:00,533
was something that had been
there for a long,
862
00:41:00,633 --> 00:41:02,866
now there's just a new gizmo
that we can do it with.
863
00:41:02,966 --> 00:41:04,366
Isn't that cool?
864
00:41:04,466 --> 00:41:05,566
I mean, you can trigger this
and sync it up,
865
00:41:05,666 --> 00:41:07,100
and wow, let's do it.
866
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,766
There's never
a kind of like a,
867
00:41:08,866 --> 00:41:10,700
"Oh, I don't think
we should do that" moment.
868
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,600
[ Playing "Don't You Want Me" ]
869
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,466
-Eventually the synthesizer
becomes common enough
870
00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:24,600
for bands to brag
that they had no synthesizer.
871
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,800
♪♪
872
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:33,233
The synthesizer came to
symbolize something not natural.
873
00:41:33,333 --> 00:41:34,866
-All through the '80s,
there's not
874
00:41:34,966 --> 00:41:37,866
a really authentic-sounding
record in the '80s.
875
00:41:37,966 --> 00:41:40,200
They're all highly processed.
876
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,466
-♪ Let's get physical
877
00:41:42,566 --> 00:41:44,066
♪ Physical
878
00:41:44,166 --> 00:41:46,400
♪ I wanna get physical
879
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,400
-Late '70s,
those horrible synthesizers,
880
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:51,066
it's hard for me to imagine
881
00:41:51,166 --> 00:41:53,766
that that was
the golden age of recording.
882
00:41:53,866 --> 00:41:55,733
-♪ Body talk
883
00:41:55,833 --> 00:41:57,966
♪ Let's get physical
884
00:41:58,066 --> 00:41:59,066
♪ Physical
885
00:41:59,166 --> 00:42:00,766
-I never did like synthesizers.
886
00:42:00,866 --> 00:42:04,233
No talent in a drum machine,
but it was cutting a lot
887
00:42:04,333 --> 00:42:06,833
of musicians out of work,
the synthesizer.
888
00:42:06,933 --> 00:42:09,933
-Everything was determined
by this regular beat.
889
00:42:10,033 --> 00:42:13,000
Synthesizers, get on your bike;
get out of here.
890
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,600
[ Ethereal synthesizer plays ]
891
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,466
-I was in Cologne airport
and I was thinking
892
00:42:24,566 --> 00:42:26,700
if you're going to have music,
what would be
893
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,700
the right kind of music
for a place like this?
894
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,866
It has to be non-narrative.
895
00:42:31,966 --> 00:42:33,433
It can't have beginning,
middle, and end.
896
00:42:33,533 --> 00:42:36,066
It should be like a river,
where there's
897
00:42:36,166 --> 00:42:38,600
a sort of consistency
to the object itself,
898
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:43,533
but it's never exactly the same
from one moment to the next.
899
00:42:43,633 --> 00:42:46,166
I studied painting, not music,
900
00:42:46,266 --> 00:42:49,833
and I realized
when I was quite young
901
00:42:49,933 --> 00:42:52,100
that the most interesting form
of painting
902
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,533
that you could do now
is with sound.
903
00:42:54,633 --> 00:42:58,433
[ Ethereal synthesizer
continues ]
904
00:42:58,533 --> 00:43:01,166
With the synthesizer,
we can make a sound
905
00:43:01,266 --> 00:43:03,333
that nobody's ever heard before.
906
00:43:03,433 --> 00:43:05,533
It's a little bit like
if you went to a painter
907
00:43:05,633 --> 00:43:09,066
and said, "I know you've got
your box of paints there,
908
00:43:09,166 --> 00:43:10,900
and you've got the seven colors
of the spectrum,
909
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,433
but here's another 4,000 colors
that you've never seen before."
910
00:43:15,533 --> 00:43:17,766
It's this new form
that we still call music,
911
00:43:17,866 --> 00:43:19,266
but we should call
something else.
912
00:43:19,366 --> 00:43:21,900
♪♪
913
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,700
-Doing things
in an electronic way,
914
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,433
in a funny way
it's more personal,
915
00:43:25,533 --> 00:43:29,166
because you have to create
the sound from scratch.
916
00:43:29,266 --> 00:43:31,033
It's not just writing the note.
917
00:43:31,133 --> 00:43:34,566
You're actually creating the
sound of the note from scratch.
918
00:43:34,666 --> 00:43:38,533
[ Suspenseful music climbs ]
919
00:43:39,866 --> 00:43:42,366
In the Batman movie
"Dark Knight,"
920
00:43:42,466 --> 00:43:45,066
Batman inhabits
a very particular world.
921
00:43:45,166 --> 00:43:47,000
I thought,
wouldn't it be interesting
922
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:50,033
to make a sonic world
for this character?
923
00:43:50,133 --> 00:43:53,733
So I started by creating
a vocabulary of sounds
924
00:43:53,833 --> 00:43:55,166
electronically.
925
00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:58,933
So now on the keyboard,
I can, you know, brrr, you know.
926
00:43:59,033 --> 00:44:00,533
They're --
They're indescribable.
927
00:44:00,633 --> 00:44:03,500
It's not like, you know,
oh, here's a violin sound.
928
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,366
It's, you know,
it's some abstract thing.
929
00:44:05,466 --> 00:44:07,100
[ Suspenseful music climbs ]
930
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,933
We tried to come up
with a very iconic sound
931
00:44:15,033 --> 00:44:16,633
right at the beginning
of the movie,
932
00:44:16,733 --> 00:44:18,166
which is this sort of
[Whooshes]
933
00:44:18,266 --> 00:44:20,400
you know, like a giant flapping
of the wings.
934
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,933
[ Wings rustling ]
935
00:44:24,033 --> 00:44:27,166
And slowly, during that process,
I actually start hearing
936
00:44:27,266 --> 00:44:30,066
little bits of tune,
or little motifs, et cetera.
937
00:44:30,166 --> 00:44:33,266
[ Synthesizer plays ]
938
00:44:33,366 --> 00:44:36,466
There's a lot of snobbery
in classical music,
939
00:44:36,566 --> 00:44:38,166
but my dad was an inventor.
940
00:44:38,266 --> 00:44:41,333
I grew up with technology
and I saw
941
00:44:41,433 --> 00:44:44,400
all musical instruments
as pieces of technology,
942
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:48,100
so for me, anything
that made a decent noise
943
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,633
was a musical instrument,
944
00:44:49,733 --> 00:44:52,066
and should be incorporated
into the orchestra.
945
00:44:52,166 --> 00:44:56,133
[ Note drones ]
946
00:44:56,233 --> 00:44:58,500
I sort of know what
I want to say with the scene,
947
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,033
but I usually can't find
the notes straightaway, so.
948
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:03,966
The reason I regret
not going to music school
949
00:45:04,066 --> 00:45:05,633
is just because
whenever I get stuck,
950
00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:07,566
I wish I had a bit of Beethoven
in the drawer,
951
00:45:07,666 --> 00:45:10,800
or you know, a bit of Mozart
to go and steal from.
952
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,933
And, what happens is
I don't have that.
953
00:45:13,033 --> 00:45:15,966
So, if I'm stuck, I'd better
come up with something myself.
954
00:45:16,066 --> 00:45:19,900
That's why hours and hours
and hours get spent in this room
955
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,866
with me torturing
this poor computer.
956
00:45:22,966 --> 00:45:24,866
Let me have one more go.
957
00:45:24,966 --> 00:45:27,200
♪♪
958
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:31,300
The way Hollywood operates
is they make these movies
959
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,233
and they cost hundreds
of millions of dollars
960
00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:35,233
and basically,
at the end of the day,
961
00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:37,366
they're waiting for me
to complete the music
962
00:45:37,466 --> 00:45:40,800
and I'm doing it
on any old PC that you can buy
963
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:45,033
for, like, $10.50
and on a piece of software,
964
00:45:45,133 --> 00:45:47,500
you know, that's probably
another $20.
965
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,300
So kids, if you want to try this
at home, knock yourselves out.
966
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,700
[ Electronic music plays ]
967
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,600
-I make all my records
in hotel rooms pretty much,
968
00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:59,000
and airplanes, you know,
or on car rides.
969
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,666
I've made records in car rides,
you know?
970
00:46:00,766 --> 00:46:03,200
Especially when you have,
you know, deadlines.
971
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:08,233
[ Skrillex's "Scary Monsters
and Nice Sprites" plays ]
972
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,266
-The synthesizer, the laptop,
973
00:46:12,366 --> 00:46:14,400
they're all part
of the same world.
974
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:18,300
The laptop, especially, is the
folk instrument of our time.
975
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,433
-Our world is just --
is just a high-tech world.
976
00:46:21,533 --> 00:46:23,633
You know, we are
the Internet generation.
977
00:46:23,733 --> 00:46:27,100
We are fast-paced.
We need the laptops.
978
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,133
And yeah,
we're not great on guitars,
979
00:46:29,233 --> 00:46:32,633
but we're great with our hands,
and we still make the melodies.
980
00:46:32,733 --> 00:46:35,900
♪♪
981
00:46:39,833 --> 00:46:42,133
-What is EDM?
Electronic Dance Music.
982
00:46:42,233 --> 00:46:45,466
It is our new folk music, EDM.
983
00:46:45,566 --> 00:46:47,233
-Yes! Oh, my God!
984
00:46:47,333 --> 00:46:49,566
It has nothing to do
with the past.
985
00:46:49,666 --> 00:46:50,933
It has to do
with creating sounds
986
00:46:51,033 --> 00:46:54,066
out of space
that never existed before.
987
00:46:54,166 --> 00:46:56,433
Sequences and sounds
from a new place.
988
00:46:56,533 --> 00:46:58,966
We're like galactic travelers.
989
00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:00,933
And we're on a journey.
990
00:47:01,033 --> 00:47:04,633
♪♪
991
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:11,633
-In an era where everything is
being transformed by technology,
992
00:47:11,733 --> 00:47:14,466
one of the most exciting aspects
993
00:47:14,566 --> 00:47:19,566
of being original
is reinventing what's old.
994
00:47:19,666 --> 00:47:23,533
[ Blues play ]
995
00:47:27,366 --> 00:47:29,933
-Well, we knew we wanted to get
out of town to make a record.
996
00:47:30,033 --> 00:47:32,233
-We wanted to go to
a classic studio,
997
00:47:32,333 --> 00:47:34,966
a place that had history.
998
00:47:35,066 --> 00:47:37,133
We decided to go to
Muscle Shoals,
999
00:47:37,233 --> 00:47:41,033
and we got to the studio,
and it was pretty much just --
1000
00:47:41,133 --> 00:47:44,033
it was empty. No console,
really. Nothing worked.
1001
00:47:44,133 --> 00:47:46,033
All the wall treatment
that used to be there
1002
00:47:46,133 --> 00:47:48,333
in the '60s and '70s was gone.
1003
00:47:48,433 --> 00:47:49,833
[ Chuckles ]
1004
00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:51,800
You know, my dream of,
like, recording
1005
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:56,166
in this period-piece studio,
like, vanished immediately.
1006
00:47:56,266 --> 00:47:59,166
But we had Mark Neill,
and he was the engineer.
1007
00:47:59,266 --> 00:48:02,633
-So Mark drove his preamps,
microphones.
1008
00:48:02,733 --> 00:48:05,800
Dan and I drove down from Akron
and brought a lot of gear.
1009
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:07,300
-And so we set up all our stuff.
1010
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,200
-No Pro Tools, 12-channel desk.
1011
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:12,166
-And it was almost like we were
recording in the basement again,
1012
00:48:12,266 --> 00:48:14,900
in a room that wasn't really
acoustically correct.
1013
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,266
But Mark understood all these
old records that we loved
1014
00:48:18,366 --> 00:48:20,600
and why they sounded so good --
not why they sounded old,
1015
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:24,366
but why they sounded really good
and why the drums soundedhuge,
1016
00:48:24,466 --> 00:48:27,133
but they were mono, but there
were just like two mics.
1017
00:48:27,233 --> 00:48:31,866
[ Drum set plays ]
1018
00:48:31,966 --> 00:48:34,500
And we learned that
when we recorded with Mark.
1019
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,733
♪♪
1020
00:48:36,833 --> 00:48:39,433
We called our managing
assistant, and we were like,
1021
00:48:39,533 --> 00:48:41,733
"We need a harpsichord, now."
1022
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:45,900
And he found us, like,
1023
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,200
a student model and he drove it
down from Nashville.
1024
00:48:51,666 --> 00:48:54,100
Started playing a little line.
1025
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,333
♪ Do do-do do
1026
00:48:55,433 --> 00:48:56,666
♪ Do do-do do
1027
00:48:56,766 --> 00:48:58,000
♪ Do do do-do do
1028
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:01,033
Pat started playing,
and it just immediately sounded
1029
00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:02,666
fun and interesting.
1030
00:49:02,766 --> 00:49:05,966
♪♪
1031
00:49:06,066 --> 00:49:07,266
Pat got on the mellotron
1032
00:49:07,366 --> 00:49:09,300
and plugged in
like 20 guitar pedals to it.
1033
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,966
-♪ Whoa-oa-oa
1034
00:49:12,066 --> 00:49:15,066
-I had partial lyrics to
"Too Afraid To Love You."
1035
00:49:15,166 --> 00:49:18,800
♪♪
1036
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:22,733
Figured out the chords
of the song.
1037
00:49:22,833 --> 00:49:24,666
And we just started
recording it.
1038
00:49:24,766 --> 00:49:28,433
-♪ My gears, they grind
1039
00:49:28,533 --> 00:49:30,400
♪ More each day
1040
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:32,733
♪ And I feel like
1041
00:49:32,833 --> 00:49:37,833
♪ They're gonna grind away
1042
00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:40,333
And Mark got Pat
to play Mark's drums.
1043
00:49:40,433 --> 00:49:43,266
He's got this amazing-sounding
old Gretsch kit
1044
00:49:43,366 --> 00:49:45,933
that just resonates beautifully.
1045
00:49:46,033 --> 00:49:48,966
-♪ They drive me wild
1046
00:49:49,066 --> 00:49:50,466
♪ They're neverending
1047
00:49:50,566 --> 00:49:52,833
♪ Mile after mile
1048
00:49:52,933 --> 00:49:56,900
-And because it sounded so good,
Pat just played lighter
1049
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,266
and it just --
His playing sounded so fluid
1050
00:49:59,366 --> 00:50:00,500
throughout the whole record.
1051
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,600
♪ To love you
1052
00:50:10,666 --> 00:50:13,366
♪♪
1053
00:50:17,433 --> 00:50:20,566
♪ It's heaven on Earth
1054
00:50:20,666 --> 00:50:24,366
♪ It's in her embrace
1055
00:50:24,466 --> 00:50:25,833
♪ Her gentle touch
1056
00:50:25,933 --> 00:50:28,033
♪ And her smiling face
1057
00:50:28,133 --> 00:50:29,800
-We didn't distort the tracks
1058
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:31,766
while we were recording
for the first time.
1059
00:50:31,866 --> 00:50:34,700
That was gonna be something
that was approached in mixing.
1060
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,666
-It was Tchad Blake,
and the only instruction was
1061
00:50:37,766 --> 00:50:42,900
I sent him an e-mail that was,
"Do whatever you want, have fun,
1062
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,700
and make it sound really
effed up."
1063
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,166
♪♪
1064
00:50:47,266 --> 00:50:50,833
-♪ I just don't know
what to do ♪
1065
00:50:50,933 --> 00:50:54,233
♪ I'm too afraid to love you
1066
00:50:54,333 --> 00:50:56,566
-Everything is early days.
1067
00:50:56,666 --> 00:50:58,800
I mean, we've been doing
sound recording
1068
00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:00,900
for just over 100 years.
1069
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,266
And people have been
building drums for thousands.
1070
00:51:05,366 --> 00:51:08,433
If you look at a grand piano,
what an incredible piece
1071
00:51:08,533 --> 00:51:11,433
of thinking and they
didn't do it overnight.
1072
00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:13,733
And I think the same goes
for computers.
1073
00:51:13,833 --> 00:51:15,866
We're at the beginning of this.
1074
00:51:15,966 --> 00:51:22,266
-The technology allowed us to
create new musical experiences.
1075
00:51:22,366 --> 00:51:25,133
It allowed us our liberty,
1076
00:51:25,233 --> 00:51:28,300
and it's gonna continue
to move us forward.
1077
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,200
We have to embrace change
and celebrate it.
1078
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:32,800
[ The Black Keys's "Lonely Boy"
plays ]
1079
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:33,933
-Come on!
1080
00:51:34,033 --> 00:51:36,333
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh
1081
00:51:36,433 --> 00:51:39,000
♪ I got a love
that keeps me waitin' ♪
1082
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:41,300
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1083
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,966
♪ I got a love
that keeps me waitin' ♪
1084
00:51:44,066 --> 00:51:46,933
♪ I'm a lonely boy
1085
00:51:47,033 --> 00:51:49,133
♪ I'm a lonely boy
1086
00:51:49,233 --> 00:51:51,700
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh
1087
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,366
♪ I got a love
that keeps me waitin' ♪
1088
00:51:54,466 --> 00:51:56,933
[ Music fades ]
1089
00:51:57,033 --> 00:52:00,533
[ Cheers and applause ]
1090
00:52:00,633 --> 00:52:03,733
♪♪
1091
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,466
-"Soundbreaking"
is available on DVD.
1092
00:52:13,566 --> 00:52:15,700
The companion book
is also available.
1093
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,133
To order, visit shopPBS.org
or call 1-800-PLAY-PBS.
1094
00:52:20,233 --> 00:52:23,133
♪♪
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