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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,766 --> 00:00:18,351 - Over here? - Yeah, there. 2 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:19,832 - Where do you want it? - Right there. 3 00:00:20,021 --> 00:00:21,646 We want to make sure... 4 00:00:21,647 --> 00:00:23,648 They look after us on this show. 5 00:00:23,649 --> 00:00:25,400 You know, you guys are really too much, 6 00:00:25,401 --> 00:00:28,696 and I want to introduce you to the guys individually in the who 7 00:00:29,030 --> 00:00:30,780 because you never get to know their names. 8 00:00:30,781 --> 00:00:32,699 You know them as the who. Everybody says "who?" 9 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:34,744 And you say, you know. So what's your name? 10 00:00:35,036 --> 00:00:36,703 Pete. Pete townshend. 11 00:00:36,704 --> 00:00:38,413 - And where are you from, Pete? - London. 12 00:00:38,414 --> 00:00:39,664 - From London? - Yeah. 13 00:00:39,665 --> 00:00:41,750 - London where? - London, england. 14 00:00:41,751 --> 00:00:43,793 Where did you learn to play? 15 00:00:43,794 --> 00:00:46,796 You know, that's a wild style of play. 16 00:00:46,797 --> 00:00:48,632 Where did you learn to play the guitar like that? 17 00:00:48,633 --> 00:00:50,759 That was bowling. 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Bowling. Yeah, I could tell. 19 00:00:53,721 --> 00:00:55,348 Now we move right along... 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,769 Right over here. 21 00:01:00,061 --> 00:01:01,561 - And you're... - John. 22 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:03,813 You're John? And you're from? 23 00:01:03,814 --> 00:01:06,191 - London, too. - From London, too? 24 00:01:06,192 --> 00:01:09,361 And you must be Roger. 25 00:01:09,362 --> 00:01:10,570 I must be. 26 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:12,572 - Are you? - Yeah. 27 00:01:12,573 --> 00:01:13,740 - You're Roger? - I'm Roger. 28 00:01:13,741 --> 00:01:15,534 - And where you from? - Oz. 29 00:01:17,245 --> 00:01:19,330 Here's Roger from 02. 30 00:01:20,581 --> 00:01:23,583 And over here, the guy that plays the sloppy drums. 31 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:25,418 Follow the yellow brick road. 32 00:01:25,419 --> 00:01:27,128 - What's your name? - Keith. 33 00:01:27,129 --> 00:01:28,547 - Keith? - My friends call me Keith. 34 00:01:28,548 --> 00:01:30,757 - You can call me John. - Okay, John. 35 00:01:30,758 --> 00:01:34,427 I'd just as soon call you Roger. 36 00:01:34,428 --> 00:01:38,306 Roger from 02, what's the next song you're going to play? 37 00:01:38,307 --> 00:01:40,225 "My generation." 38 00:01:40,226 --> 00:01:41,685 - Your generation? - Yeah. 39 00:01:41,686 --> 00:01:43,270 I can really identify with that 40 00:01:43,271 --> 00:01:45,230 because I can really identify with these guys. 41 00:01:45,231 --> 00:01:46,565 I dig them. And this is... 42 00:01:49,777 --> 00:01:52,321 You got sloppy stage hands around here. 43 00:01:54,282 --> 00:01:56,784 Okay, that's enough! 44 00:01:57,118 --> 00:01:58,827 They're going to sing "my generation." 45 00:01:58,828 --> 00:02:00,287 This song really goes... 46 00:02:00,288 --> 00:02:02,048 And you're going to be surprised what happens 47 00:02:02,123 --> 00:02:04,416 because this is excitement. And hit it. 48 00:02:04,417 --> 00:02:05,459 "My generation." 49 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:42,533 "The who" 50 00:05:05,514 --> 00:05:11,645 "The kids are alright" 51 00:05:19,653 --> 00:05:24,824 "A film by Jeff Stein" 52 00:05:24,825 --> 00:05:26,826 - hey, dick! - Yes? 53 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:29,704 I'd like to borrow your bass for a minute. 54 00:05:29,705 --> 00:05:31,956 And now here is your shindig host... 55 00:05:31,957 --> 00:05:33,666 Jimmy o'Neil. 56 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:36,503 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. 57 00:05:36,504 --> 00:05:37,670 How are you all, shindiggers? 58 00:05:37,671 --> 00:05:41,090 Tonight is our very last shindig, and were going out with a bang. 59 00:05:41,091 --> 00:05:43,009 We got a bang-up cast for you, 60 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:45,386 starring Billy Jay Kramer and the dakotas, 61 00:05:45,387 --> 00:05:46,513 the who, 62 00:05:46,514 --> 00:05:48,473 Dave Berry, Ian Watkins, Sandy Shaw, 63 00:05:48,474 --> 00:05:50,600 the kinks, the barren knights, twinkle, 64 00:05:50,601 --> 00:05:52,435 and of course our own blossoms and Wellingtons. 65 00:05:52,436 --> 00:05:54,437 What do you say we get ready to live it up? 66 00:05:54,438 --> 00:05:56,064 Because here we go with our kick-off tune tonight, 67 00:05:56,065 --> 00:05:57,649 called "I can't explain." 68 00:05:57,650 --> 00:05:59,902 Here to sing it are the who. 69 00:08:12,117 --> 00:08:14,787 Terribly sorry, Russell. 70 00:08:15,829 --> 00:08:17,705 Does this stuff belong to you? 71 00:08:17,706 --> 00:08:18,873 Have a seat, old love. 72 00:08:18,874 --> 00:08:20,166 You sit down, then. 73 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:22,669 Drake, this is all over the upholstery. 74 00:08:22,670 --> 00:08:26,589 Who does that machinery belong to? Does it belong to you or to us? 75 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:29,634 - I mean, who has to pay for it? - It's mortgaged. 76 00:08:29,635 --> 00:08:30,885 It's all right. 77 00:08:30,886 --> 00:08:33,222 - It looks all right. - Doesn't matter to them. 78 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:35,223 A lot of people like what were doing. 79 00:08:35,224 --> 00:08:37,225 We've got 83... 80 00:08:37,226 --> 00:08:40,019 - Stop interrupting! - Deposed Pakistanis to visit. 81 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:41,813 Do go on. 82 00:08:41,814 --> 00:08:44,565 It's no good. I've lost my nerve now. 83 00:08:44,566 --> 00:08:47,026 All right, let me take over now. 84 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:49,195 Now, you have been together now as a group 85 00:08:49,196 --> 00:08:50,738 for how many years? 10 years? 86 00:08:50,739 --> 00:08:51,823 Yeah I'm leaving 87 00:08:51,824 --> 00:08:53,574 wait a minute, hold on, hold on. 88 00:08:53,575 --> 00:08:55,785 Was it that long? Christ almighty. 89 00:08:55,786 --> 00:08:57,995 It's known as decay of the who. 90 00:08:57,996 --> 00:08:59,997 - What's it, then? - The decline of the who 91 00:08:59,998 --> 00:09:01,666 the decade of the who. 92 00:09:01,667 --> 00:09:02,750 Oh, the decade. 93 00:09:02,751 --> 00:09:03,836 Who decayed? 94 00:14:21,987 --> 00:14:24,155 Everybody, you will be all right. 95 00:14:24,156 --> 00:14:25,322 Sure, sure. 96 00:14:25,323 --> 00:14:28,200 Everybody, focus. You'll be all right. 97 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:29,368 Yeah, yeah, we know. 98 00:14:29,369 --> 00:14:32,956 You'll be all... Yeah, you'll be all right. 99 00:15:42,109 --> 00:15:44,402 Everybody, clap your hands! 100 00:16:03,130 --> 00:16:04,589 I can't hear you! 101 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:12,388 It has to be loud! 102 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:13,389 Come on! 103 00:16:14,432 --> 00:16:16,600 A little louder! 104 00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:18,103 Shoufl 105 00:16:19,312 --> 00:16:20,397 that's good. 106 00:16:25,193 --> 00:16:27,153 Let's bring our souls together. 107 00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:28,571 You've been together for 10 years. 108 00:16:28,572 --> 00:16:30,949 A decade. You haven't yet decayed. 109 00:16:31,992 --> 00:16:33,367 Apart from the rolling stones, 110 00:16:33,368 --> 00:16:36,203 you are the longest surviving together group, are you not? 111 00:16:36,204 --> 00:16:38,081 Well, not together. 112 00:16:39,583 --> 00:16:44,212 What strains that you have suffered together, if at all? 113 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:49,301 Seems it's just beginning. 114 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,181 It's such a long story. Should I start... 115 00:16:55,182 --> 00:16:56,348 Start at the beginning. 116 00:16:56,349 --> 00:17:00,144 We started off as... 117 00:17:00,145 --> 00:17:03,522 I must admit that the fantastic thing about the who 118 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:07,067 is that we are all incredibly nasty. 119 00:17:07,068 --> 00:17:08,694 You are or were? 120 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:10,779 Were. I mean, we still were. 121 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:12,698 His feet are nasty as well. 122 00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:14,783 Christ. 123 00:17:14,784 --> 00:17:16,535 Don't mind me. 124 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,079 We were nasty... 125 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,247 God. 126 00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:21,707 Carry on, Russell. 127 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:23,375 I don't want it. 128 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:27,088 You just carry on, Russell. Go on. 129 00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:31,218 Be sure it's going to be worth seeing. 130 00:21:17,318 --> 00:21:18,861 There's a thing here, 131 00:21:18,862 --> 00:21:21,613 an account of one week exactly ten years ago, 132 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:25,784 when you had played in that week in the social club in goldhawk road 133 00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:27,911 and the California ballroom in dunstable 134 00:21:27,912 --> 00:21:30,456 and the railway arms neasden. 135 00:21:30,457 --> 00:21:34,877 And what you had made that week was ยฃ370. 136 00:21:34,878 --> 00:21:40,424 And what you had spent was ยฃ1946.17.6, 137 00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:42,801 and including ยฃ785 138 00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:46,556 on replacement of guitars, drum kits, and microphones. 139 00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:50,350 Who covered that gap in money, 140 00:21:50,351 --> 00:21:52,561 that ยฃ400 gap 141 00:21:52,562 --> 00:21:56,773 which left ยฃ1,300 to find every week? 142 00:21:56,774 --> 00:21:58,610 It's hard to say. 143 00:21:59,861 --> 00:22:02,821 I used to rush into Marshall's music shop 144 00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:05,866 and steal guitars off the wall. 145 00:22:05,867 --> 00:22:09,036 I'd say, "just taking a guitar. Pay you Tuesday," and rush out. 146 00:22:09,037 --> 00:22:10,913 "Entertainment-โ€” the who... Richest vandals in the world!" 147 00:22:10,914 --> 00:22:12,998 Kit lampert, our manager... It frustrates me. 148 00:22:12,999 --> 00:22:15,375 "Photographer from the daily mail in the audience. 149 00:22:15,376 --> 00:22:16,668 Smash your guitar." 150 00:22:16,669 --> 00:22:19,004 So I smashed the guitar around the stage. 151 00:22:19,005 --> 00:22:20,380 He'd come back 152 00:22:20,381 --> 00:22:23,383 "Pete, Pete. Sorry. He missed it. 153 00:22:23,384 --> 00:22:25,677 Smash another one. I'll give you the money." 154 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:26,845 And as soon as I started... 155 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:28,096 "A beast invades the high school hop" 156 00:22:28,097 --> 00:22:29,598 smashing something up, Keith, who is a great joiner-inner, 157 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:31,809 used to smash up his drum kit. 158 00:22:56,626 --> 00:22:59,962 Well, I suppose all his friends have been on here 159 00:22:59,963 --> 00:23:01,922 because, you know, I'm only one of several. 160 00:23:01,923 --> 00:23:04,508 I've told you about all the mad things he's done in life, 161 00:23:04,509 --> 00:23:07,553 such as, you know, breaking up rooms, 162 00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:10,639 driving his car into swimming pools, 163 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,724 driving his car into foyers. 164 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:14,893 Well, I'm not going to tell you about any of that. 165 00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:17,062 You know, I'm just here to tell you 166 00:23:17,063 --> 00:23:19,566 about the Keith I know and love, you know? 167 00:23:23,611 --> 00:23:28,073 Keith, what's your opinion of your public image? 168 00:23:28,074 --> 00:23:32,370 I think it sort of varies with every record I put out. 169 00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:35,455 I think sometimes... 170 00:23:35,456 --> 00:23:38,959 Could you get on with it? Will you keep it together? 171 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,005 No, I think I'm very reliant on my management 172 00:23:43,006 --> 00:23:45,632 and my public relations people. 173 00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:50,554 This country is in a weird, feeble, grotesque state, 174 00:23:50,555 --> 00:23:52,931 and it's about time it got out of it, 175 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:57,769 and the on... the reason it could get out of it is rock music. 176 00:23:57,770 --> 00:24:01,106 And I think the towns... And the who, Roger daltrey, 177 00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,108 entwistle, moon, 178 00:24:03,109 --> 00:24:07,779 could rise this country out of its decadent, ambient state 179 00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:11,116 more than Wilson and those crappy people 180 00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:12,660 could ever hope to achieve! 181 00:25:45,545 --> 00:25:48,964 What about the little singer? What's your opinion of him? 182 00:25:48,965 --> 00:25:52,676 Well, I think he does a damn good job out there. 183 00:25:52,677 --> 00:25:55,095 Personally, I mean, I wouldn't go out there 184 00:25:55,096 --> 00:25:58,223 up front with nothing to protect me but a small microphone, 185 00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:01,017 but he manages to revolve it so fast 186 00:26:01,018 --> 00:26:02,894 that when people do throw things, 187 00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:07,023 he gets sort of desiccated eggs and sliced tomato. 188 00:26:07,024 --> 00:26:09,735 I turn my cymbals up this way 189 00:26:09,736 --> 00:26:13,238 so that at the end of the night I have a salad mixed. 190 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,907 I just sprinkle some salt 191 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,909 and some Italian seasoning on it, ' 192 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:20,079 and that sort of ends up my evening here. 193 00:28:45,892 --> 00:28:48,059 There are some elements in the storyline... 194 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:51,187 The image in the mirror, 195 00:28:51,188 --> 00:28:54,442 the pinball, 196 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:58,403 and the sensibility in general. 197 00:28:58,404 --> 00:29:01,031 See me, feel me, touch me, heal me. 198 00:29:01,032 --> 00:29:04,784 Which reflect in a certain sense 199 00:29:04,785 --> 00:29:09,915 the phenomenon of youth subculture. 200 00:29:09,916 --> 00:29:12,208 There is narcissism. 201 00:29:12,209 --> 00:29:15,337 There is a kind of new sensibility 202 00:29:15,338 --> 00:29:19,883 as a strong tendency for playing up things 203 00:29:19,884 --> 00:29:27,350 and no more putting it into aggressive forms of counter-action. 204 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,356 - It's... - Yeah. 205 00:34:32,196 --> 00:34:33,571 Thank you 206 00:34:33,572 --> 00:34:35,615 good. 207 00:34:35,616 --> 00:34:37,159 Thank you. 208 00:34:46,418 --> 00:34:48,711 Because that was the end of the '60s. 209 00:34:48,712 --> 00:34:50,713 That seemed to sum up an awful lot about rock. 210 00:34:50,714 --> 00:34:54,842 It was the time when you were a great star of Woodstock. 211 00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:59,347 Woodstock itself was one of the biggest pop events in world terms 212 00:34:59,348 --> 00:35:03,142 because of the film that masses and millions of people have seen. 213 00:35:03,143 --> 00:35:06,604 And it was a marvelous thing in its way. 214 00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:09,399 But just as a matter of interest, what do you think it changed? 215 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,650 What was different after it? 216 00:35:10,651 --> 00:35:12,652 What did that generation, all those people, 217 00:35:12,653 --> 00:35:15,446 given the same high by the same thing, 218 00:35:15,447 --> 00:35:16,614 yourself in turn... 219 00:35:16,615 --> 00:35:18,826 What did it change? I'm just interested to know. 220 00:35:19,118 --> 00:35:21,078 Well, it changed me. I hated it. 221 00:36:38,697 --> 00:36:40,574 Ladies and gentlemen... 222 00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:45,496 The who. 223 00:37:07,643 --> 00:37:09,894 You have to resign yourself to the fact 224 00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:14,524 that a large part of the audience is sort of thick, you know, 225 00:37:14,525 --> 00:37:17,777 and don't appreciate quality, 226 00:37:17,778 --> 00:37:20,279 however much you try and put it over. 227 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,493 The fact is that our group isn't... Hasn't got any quality. 228 00:37:25,494 --> 00:37:27,578 It's just musical sensationalism. 229 00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:30,915 You do something big on the stage, 230 00:37:30,916 --> 00:37:33,668 and a thousand geezers sort of go "ahh." 231 00:37:33,669 --> 00:37:38,590 It's just basic Shepherd's bush enjoyment. 232 00:39:19,107 --> 00:39:21,067 Our sound appeals to mods 233 00:39:21,068 --> 00:39:25,072 in the case for aggression. 234 00:39:25,364 --> 00:39:29,742 For example, for a brief period, I stopped smashing guitars. 235 00:39:29,743 --> 00:39:30,868 Kids started shouting out 236 00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:34,038 "smash your guitar, Pete. Smash your guitar" 237 00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:36,707 and getting quite annoyed that I wasn't 238 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:40,545 because to a large percentage of geezers that come to see the group, 239 00:39:40,546 --> 00:39:43,130 they paid their money to see me re-amplify with the guitar 240 00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:45,049 or see a guitar break, you know? 241 00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:47,094 A lot of girls come to see the group 242 00:39:47,386 --> 00:39:49,887 because of various things which people in the group wear 243 00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:53,057 such as John's jacket of medals 244 00:39:53,058 --> 00:39:55,102 and my jacket made out of flags 245 00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:58,646 and Keith who wears sort of fab gear, 246 00:39:58,647 --> 00:40:00,065 pop art t-shirts 247 00:40:00,399 --> 00:40:03,067 made out of targets and hearts and things like this 248 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:05,570 because the group is a fairly simple form of pop art, 249 00:40:05,571 --> 00:40:08,656 we get a lot of audience this way. 250 00:40:08,657 --> 00:40:11,118 Off stage, the group get on terribly badly. 251 00:40:11,410 --> 00:40:15,162 There's a lot of just spite and things which flash around. 252 00:40:15,163 --> 00:40:17,582 The singer is a Shepherd's bush geezer 253 00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:19,041 who wants everything to be a big laugh, 254 00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:21,752 and when it isn't, he thinks something is going wrong, 255 00:40:21,753 --> 00:40:23,170 terribly wrong 256 00:40:23,171 --> 00:40:26,173 the drummer is a sort of completely different person 257 00:40:26,174 --> 00:40:28,593 to anyone else other than me. 258 00:40:28,594 --> 00:40:30,136 The bass player just doesn't seem to be 259 00:40:30,137 --> 00:40:31,679 interested in anything, you know, 260 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,764 which makes it all very difficult. 261 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:35,100 You've been together 10 years. 262 00:40:35,434 --> 00:40:36,726 You must have been subject 263 00:40:36,727 --> 00:40:38,644 to a great deal of strain and innertension. 264 00:40:38,645 --> 00:40:40,646 I now cannot ask that... 265 00:40:40,647 --> 00:40:43,107 - Actually... - We do try to ignore each other. 266 00:40:43,108 --> 00:40:45,151 We've always been very close, you and I. 267 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:49,780 Most of the thing is that I loathe Pete townshend. 268 00:40:49,781 --> 00:40:52,074 - Keith and I... - The group has had no history, 269 00:40:52,075 --> 00:40:54,201 and I've hated him ever since we began. 270 00:40:54,202 --> 00:40:56,162 Since I've been doing the bulk of the.. 271 00:40:56,163 --> 00:40:58,914 The thing is that he does no writing. I do most of it. 272 00:40:58,915 --> 00:41:00,791 I end up doing most of the lyric work. 273 00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:02,169 He keeps taking the tapes. 274 00:41:02,461 --> 00:41:03,920 He thinks he does the lyrics. 275 00:42:35,554 --> 00:42:37,763 What about musical quality, though? 276 00:42:37,764 --> 00:42:40,182 You said that you don't think your group have got any. 277 00:42:40,183 --> 00:42:41,851 Why don't you try and give it some? 278 00:42:41,852 --> 00:42:45,813 If you don't... If you steer clear of quality, 279 00:42:45,814 --> 00:42:47,274 you're all right, you know. 280 00:42:47,566 --> 00:42:49,234 No, really. This is the truth, you know. 281 00:42:49,568 --> 00:42:51,861 But wouldn't you say the Beatles and people like that 282 00:42:51,862 --> 00:42:53,530 have a certain musical quality? 283 00:42:54,906 --> 00:42:56,907 You know, that's a tough question. 284 00:42:56,908 --> 00:42:59,286 I... actually this afternoon, 285 00:42:59,578 --> 00:43:03,038 we, John and I were listening to a stereo of the Beatles 286 00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,332 in which the voices come out of one side 287 00:43:05,333 --> 00:43:07,293 and the backing track comes out of the other. 288 00:43:07,294 --> 00:43:09,628 And when you actually hear the backing track to the Beatles 289 00:43:09,629 --> 00:43:11,798 without their voices, they're flipping nails. 290 00:46:28,328 --> 00:46:31,456 The first major American tour was by bus. 291 00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:34,375 We traveled from coast to coast, 292 00:46:34,376 --> 00:46:38,128 and from Miami we'd go up to Canada. 293 00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:39,506 It was pretty awful. 294 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,467 We used New York as a springboard. 295 00:46:43,468 --> 00:46:46,387 We used to play for Murray the k. 296 00:46:46,388 --> 00:46:48,515 We used to do five shows a day there, 297 00:46:48,807 --> 00:46:52,476 and we had three minutes to do our show. 298 00:46:52,477 --> 00:46:56,188 First you'd have one and a half minutes of kind of explaining 299 00:46:56,189 --> 00:46:58,482 and one and a half minutes of "my generation," 300 00:46:58,483 --> 00:47:01,528 smash your guitar, and run off, you know. 301 00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:05,072 Five times a day, seven days a week. 302 00:47:05,073 --> 00:47:08,075 In those days, your performances used to end up 303 00:47:08,076 --> 00:47:09,994 with you smashing all your equipment. 304 00:47:09,995 --> 00:47:12,204 There were stories about you smashing hotel rooms on every tour. 305 00:47:12,205 --> 00:47:15,499 All lies. Not a word of truth. 306 00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:19,003 Well, according to people at the time, it certainly was true. 307 00:47:19,004 --> 00:47:23,299 Why was there all that violence surrounding you? 308 00:47:25,051 --> 00:47:27,177 Well, this was only last week, wasn't it? 309 00:47:27,178 --> 00:47:32,016 What made us first want to go to america and conquer it 310 00:47:32,017 --> 00:47:33,518 was being English. 311 00:47:33,852 --> 00:47:38,523 Not because we cared monkeys about the American dream 312 00:47:38,857 --> 00:47:41,191 or about the American drug situation 313 00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:43,027 or about the dollars or anything. 314 00:47:43,028 --> 00:47:45,279 It's because we were English kids, right? 315 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,574 And we wanted to go to america and beat it. 316 00:47:47,866 --> 00:47:52,077 Pop music is crucial to today's art, 317 00:47:52,078 --> 00:47:54,538 and it's crucial that it should remain art, 318 00:47:54,539 --> 00:47:58,126 and it is crucial that is should progress as art. 319 00:50:06,462 --> 00:50:08,172 I saw you. 320 00:50:08,173 --> 00:50:11,175 Girls came to see you mainly to look at the clothes you wear. 321 00:50:11,176 --> 00:50:14,094 Don't you think that most of them come for a certain sexual thrill 322 00:50:14,095 --> 00:50:15,470 they get out of your performance? 323 00:50:15,471 --> 00:50:18,682 Our group is probably one of the most unglamorous on the stage today. 324 00:50:18,683 --> 00:50:20,100 I mean... 325 00:50:20,101 --> 00:50:24,605 No, really, I mean, this is one of our big problems, you know, 326 00:50:24,606 --> 00:50:26,190 and probably still is, you know, 327 00:50:26,191 --> 00:50:28,066 is that the group didn't have enough glamour. 328 00:50:28,067 --> 00:50:32,196 It was all these clothes and smashing things up 329 00:50:32,197 --> 00:50:34,198 it was all mechanical things. 330 00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:36,200 It was bricks and stones and things 331 00:50:36,201 --> 00:50:39,244 and not enough of, sort of, normal group things, you know. 332 00:50:39,245 --> 00:50:45,459 We made our second album, which he produced, 333 00:50:45,460 --> 00:50:47,169 and it was during that album, 334 00:50:47,170 --> 00:50:49,213 which, as I said, kit lampert produced, 335 00:50:49,214 --> 00:50:52,674 that we really realized what making albums was all about. 336 00:50:52,675 --> 00:50:55,427 You know, we had great fun, and it was very creative. 337 00:50:55,428 --> 00:50:58,305 And kit was learning about record production 338 00:50:58,306 --> 00:51:04,269 and doing crazy things like recording the group 339 00:51:04,270 --> 00:51:06,521 from a microphone down the corridor 340 00:51:06,522 --> 00:51:08,815 and all these things which are very commonplace nowadays. 341 00:51:08,816 --> 00:51:13,153 Using incredible amounts of compression 342 00:51:13,154 --> 00:51:16,156 and squeezing the sound up, 343 00:51:16,157 --> 00:51:18,242 squeezing cymbal sounds up 344 00:51:18,243 --> 00:51:19,826 to make them sound like steam engines 345 00:51:19,827 --> 00:51:23,288 and various, sort of, twiddling knobs 346 00:51:23,289 --> 00:51:25,123 as the recording was going. 347 00:51:25,124 --> 00:51:27,752 The engineers throwing their hands in the air. 348 00:51:28,086 --> 00:51:31,381 "It... coated knobs, mate. You can't do that." 349 00:51:34,259 --> 00:51:36,802 And all this was going on in the studio, 350 00:51:36,803 --> 00:51:40,264 but unfortunately we had ten minutes on the album to fill 351 00:51:40,265 --> 00:51:41,765 when we'd finished, 352 00:51:41,766 --> 00:51:44,142 and so kit turned around to me 353 00:51:44,143 --> 00:51:48,272 and said "I think you should write something linear, 354 00:51:48,273 --> 00:51:49,856 something with continuity, 355 00:51:49,857 --> 00:51:52,859 perhaps a ten-minute song." 356 00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:55,780 So I said, "you can't write a ten minute song." 357 00:51:56,114 --> 00:51:59,574 I mean, rock songs are two minutes 50, by tradition. 358 00:51:59,575 --> 00:52:01,285 It's one of the traditions, you know. 359 00:52:01,286 --> 00:52:05,497 They only allowed you one modulation. 360 00:52:05,498 --> 00:52:08,583 Four chords or five, you know. 361 00:52:08,584 --> 00:52:11,295 Five chords, you might be up before the committee. 362 00:52:11,296 --> 00:52:13,630 Ten minutes is ridiculous. 363 00:52:13,631 --> 00:52:17,217 So he said "well, listen, if you can't write a ten-minute song, 364 00:52:17,218 --> 00:52:20,804 write a ten-minute story 365 00:52:20,805 --> 00:52:23,473 made up of two-minutes-50 songs," 366 00:52:23,474 --> 00:52:24,641 which I did. 367 00:52:24,642 --> 00:52:27,686 And that was the mini opera, it was called. 368 00:52:27,687 --> 00:52:31,481 And now, ladies and gentlemen, dig the who. 369 00:55:22,487 --> 00:55:25,739 Here comes ivor the dirty old city engine driver 370 00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:27,742 to make you feel all right. 371 01:00:11,650 --> 01:00:13,651 What we have to do is we have to... 372 01:00:13,652 --> 01:00:16,654 We have to decide whether or not we are going to remain 373 01:00:16,655 --> 01:00:18,907 this circus act, right? 374 01:00:18,908 --> 01:00:20,784 Or whether we're going to, in other words, 375 01:00:20,785 --> 01:00:24,330 doing what everybody knows we can do and what we know we can do. 376 01:00:24,622 --> 01:00:28,374 Right? Until the band eventually turns into a cabaret act, 377 01:00:28,375 --> 01:00:32,004 - which is inevitable. - No. That's ridiculous to say that. 378 01:00:33,047 --> 01:00:34,297 I mean... 379 01:00:34,298 --> 01:00:35,924 Well, let's just... 380 01:00:35,925 --> 01:00:38,051 Okay, Keith, let's go. 381 01:00:38,052 --> 01:00:39,261 Bragging and drums. 382 01:00:45,851 --> 01:00:48,102 I've heard a lot about you and the rest of the group 383 01:00:48,103 --> 01:00:49,354 taking drugs, Pete. 384 01:00:49,355 --> 01:00:51,357 Does this mean you're usually blocked up 385 01:00:51,649 --> 01:00:52,857 when you're actually on stage? 386 01:00:52,858 --> 01:00:56,237 No, but it means we're blocked up all the time, you know. 387 01:00:57,696 --> 01:01:01,157 Well, kid, we've heard you drink a lot, but that's beside the point. 388 01:01:01,158 --> 01:01:03,284 If you could tell us, you know, 389 01:01:03,285 --> 01:01:07,288 how did you happen to join the who 390 01:01:07,289 --> 01:01:10,875 and if in fact that's what they were called when you joined. 391 01:01:10,876 --> 01:01:15,171 Well, I've just been sitting in for the past 15 years. 392 01:01:15,172 --> 01:01:18,007 You know, they never actually told me that I was part of the band. 393 01:01:18,008 --> 01:01:19,343 I knew it by instinct. 394 01:01:19,677 --> 01:01:22,720 Keith moon rolled up one day all ginger all over... 395 01:01:22,721 --> 01:01:25,807 Ginger shoes, ginger corduroy trousers, ginger jacket, 396 01:01:25,808 --> 01:01:27,350 and his hair dyed ginger, 397 01:01:27,351 --> 01:01:30,186 holding a glass of brown ale. 398 01:01:30,187 --> 01:01:33,273 So this complete ginger sort of vision 399 01:01:33,274 --> 01:01:35,359 came up and said, "I can play better than him." 400 01:01:35,693 --> 01:01:39,153 And this horrible impudent with his hair down like this. 401 01:01:39,154 --> 01:01:43,449 And... got up on the drummer's drum kit 402 01:01:43,450 --> 01:01:46,119 and practically smashed it to pieces. 403 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,830 And we thought this is the man for us. 404 01:03:02,863 --> 01:03:07,367 Hi. I'm Ralph baines speaking to you for the Hewitt house hotels, 405 01:03:07,368 --> 01:03:10,162 the rock stars' home away from home. 406 01:03:13,415 --> 01:03:16,919 Don't be alarmed I think I know what's going on. 407 01:04:32,578 --> 01:04:35,539 Let's get some information across before the fun breaks loose again. 408 01:04:35,873 --> 01:04:38,249 What were you before you kicked off with as a group 409 01:04:38,250 --> 01:04:40,836 he was almost as interesting as... 410 01:04:43,172 --> 01:04:45,256 Inland revenue income tax. 411 01:04:45,257 --> 01:04:47,091 I thought you said Land Rover. 412 01:04:47,092 --> 01:04:48,593 I guess it's some time in the back. 413 01:04:48,594 --> 01:04:51,054 Inland revenue. 414 01:04:51,055 --> 01:04:52,513 So what what did you do? 415 01:04:54,975 --> 01:04:56,517 All sort of things. 416 01:04:56,518 --> 01:04:57,561 Like what? 417 01:04:57,895 --> 01:04:59,395 Be more specific. He wants... 418 01:04:59,396 --> 01:05:02,982 I want one thing that you did before you joined as a group. 419 01:05:02,983 --> 01:05:05,401 I mean, were you digging a garden or what? 420 01:05:05,402 --> 01:05:07,111 He was born in a bunk. 421 01:05:07,112 --> 01:05:08,614 I was a sheet metal worker 422 01:05:08,906 --> 01:05:10,490 sheet metal worker? 423 01:05:10,491 --> 01:05:13,118 Yeah, I was a rust repairer. 424 01:05:16,580 --> 01:05:20,291 I was a rust repairer and full-time survivor. 425 01:05:20,292 --> 01:05:23,212 I survived all the major earthquakes. 426 01:05:24,338 --> 01:05:28,091 And the Titanic and several air crashes. 427 01:05:28,092 --> 01:05:29,903 I think you'll have to give me a few lessons in survival 428 01:05:29,927 --> 01:05:33,596 because if I'm gonna stay and survive this interview, I'll need a few lessons. 429 01:05:33,597 --> 01:05:36,307 Well, there is more Brandy... I mean lemonade. 430 01:05:36,308 --> 01:05:37,517 That's right. 431 01:05:37,518 --> 01:05:39,268 And you were doing what? 432 01:05:39,269 --> 01:05:41,229 Oh, we didn't work. 433 01:05:41,230 --> 01:05:43,439 Arty-farty he was. 434 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,149 You leave me out of this. 435 01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:49,362 We were talking about me. Hey, get out! Oh, no! 436 01:05:49,363 --> 01:05:51,031 Oh, no, Keith. 437 01:05:52,324 --> 01:05:53,575 It's a ripper. 438 01:05:55,244 --> 01:05:58,579 That's what he was doing, developing his muscles. 439 01:05:58,580 --> 01:06:02,083 Keith, leave me alone. 440 01:06:02,084 --> 01:06:05,128 - Well, they have to ask you this. - I know. 441 01:06:05,129 --> 01:06:07,130 You know, what do you think about Pete? 442 01:06:07,131 --> 01:06:11,384 I love the man. He's one of my dearest friends. 443 01:06:11,385 --> 01:06:14,387 But I couldn't say that about Ringo. 444 01:06:14,388 --> 01:06:16,222 If Pete said "what do you think about Ringo?" 445 01:06:16,223 --> 01:06:19,183 "You know, we have our moments, and when we get together, 446 01:06:19,184 --> 01:06:21,687 there are certain times that you just... 447 01:06:21,979 --> 01:06:25,148 Something happens, and I really don't know what it is." 448 01:06:25,149 --> 01:06:27,400 - But there's that magic there. - It's probably we're drunk 449 01:06:27,401 --> 01:06:28,693 it could be that. 450 01:06:28,694 --> 01:06:31,195 Oh, not drunk, teeny-boppers. 451 01:06:31,196 --> 01:06:33,489 No, absolutely not, you Don Henry fans. 452 01:06:33,490 --> 01:06:35,241 Keith and Henry had a lot of medicine 453 01:06:35,242 --> 01:06:37,618 - absolutely. - You know, just a lot of medicine 454 01:06:37,619 --> 01:06:39,036 we're getting on. 455 01:06:39,037 --> 01:06:41,289 We're getting on now, and we need our medicine, so... 456 01:06:41,290 --> 01:06:43,332 Let's see the age of this suit. 457 01:06:43,333 --> 01:06:45,710 When I'm on the stage... Let me try and explain. 458 01:06:45,711 --> 01:06:48,462 When I'm on the stage, I'm not in control of myself at all. 459 01:06:48,463 --> 01:06:50,214 I don't even know who I am 460 01:06:50,215 --> 01:06:52,175 you know, I'm not this rational person 461 01:06:52,176 --> 01:06:53,759 that can sit here now and talk to you. 462 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,721 If you walked on the stage with a microphone 463 01:06:56,013 --> 01:06:57,513 in the middle of a concert, 464 01:06:57,514 --> 01:06:59,683 I'd probably come close to killing you. 465 01:07:00,017 --> 01:07:02,768 I have come close to killing people who have walked on stage. 466 01:07:02,769 --> 01:07:05,188 Abbie Hoffman walked on the stage at Woodstock, 467 01:07:05,189 --> 01:07:07,190 and I nearly killed him with my guitar. 468 01:07:07,191 --> 01:07:09,692 A cameraman walked on the stage. 469 01:07:09,693 --> 01:07:12,361 A policeman came on when the bloody building 470 01:07:12,362 --> 01:07:15,198 at the Fillmore in New York was burning down, 471 01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:18,201 and I kicked him in the balls and sent him off 472 01:07:18,202 --> 01:07:22,371 because I... you know, I'm just not there, really. 473 01:07:22,372 --> 01:07:26,083 It's not like being possessed. It's just I do my job, 474 01:07:26,084 --> 01:07:30,005 and I know I have to get into a certain state of mind to do it. 475 01:11:39,754 --> 01:11:42,798 We'd realized the end of our tether. 476 01:11:42,799 --> 01:11:47,888 We'd reached it. We'd come upon the point when the... 477 01:11:53,351 --> 01:11:56,896 Nose bleeds and all that were no good. 478 01:11:56,897 --> 01:12:02,026 We can't go on doing that. It's no good. 479 01:12:02,027 --> 01:12:05,696 It's beyond the beyond. 480 01:12:05,697 --> 01:12:08,407 Bob. Barbara. 481 01:12:08,408 --> 01:12:09,451 Barbara Ann? 482 01:12:11,661 --> 01:12:12,746 Well, that's... 483 01:14:45,023 --> 01:14:48,109 We did that bit, though. Does it come in twice? 484 01:14:51,655 --> 01:14:52,781 Look what happened? 485 01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:56,617 I mean, one main ambition now was to get back on the road 486 01:14:56,618 --> 01:14:58,160 with the horrible who, 487 01:14:58,161 --> 01:15:00,537 the worst rock and roll group in the world. 488 01:15:00,538 --> 01:15:01,872 - The worst? - Yes. 489 01:15:01,873 --> 01:15:05,167 You couldn't pick four more horrible geezers 490 01:15:05,168 --> 01:15:08,838 that make more, like, the worst noise that you've ever heard in your life. 491 01:20:22,276 --> 01:20:24,152 You want one of the reasons 492 01:20:24,153 --> 01:20:28,407 for having music and things fantastically loud 493 01:20:28,408 --> 01:20:33,370 is because you get so many people that turn deaf ears to what you do. 494 01:20:33,371 --> 01:20:37,165 You know what I mean? They just won't listen to what you do, 495 01:20:37,166 --> 01:20:40,127 and it doesn't matter how good or bad it is. 496 01:20:40,128 --> 01:20:43,547 In fact, the bigger it is, normally, 497 01:20:43,548 --> 01:20:46,174 the more they'll close their ears to it. 498 01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:49,511 And so the louder you got to work, you know. 499 01:20:49,512 --> 01:20:51,513 Volume is fantastic thing. 500 01:20:51,514 --> 01:20:55,977 Power and volume and power and volume. 501 01:20:57,895 --> 01:21:00,022 When I went to get my ears tested, 502 01:21:00,023 --> 01:21:01,356 I thought I was really encouraged, 503 01:21:01,357 --> 01:21:05,277 apart from the fact you said I have terrible ears. 504 01:21:05,278 --> 01:21:10,323 He said bill said, "what advice would you give him? 505 01:21:10,324 --> 01:21:15,912 Would you tell him to stop playing entirely and leave the group?" 506 01:21:15,913 --> 01:21:18,373 Throw his career out the window. 507 01:21:18,374 --> 01:21:21,209 Become a pauper, starve. 508 01:21:21,210 --> 01:21:22,587 Would you tell him that? 509 01:21:22,879 --> 01:21:27,425 "Well, actually, no, but I would advise him to learn to lip read." 510 01:21:30,094 --> 01:21:31,928 It's true. That's what he said. 511 01:21:31,929 --> 01:21:33,638 Get off. 512 01:21:33,639 --> 01:21:38,060 Have all of you made enough money to stop work this afternoon, tonight? 513 01:21:38,061 --> 01:21:40,228 Well, I'm certain you'd like that. 514 01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:41,563 Yes, I have. 515 01:21:41,564 --> 01:21:43,315 You have? Why don't you stop, then? 516 01:21:43,316 --> 01:21:46,152 He's got to support me and the rest of the boys. 517 01:21:48,071 --> 01:21:50,072 You mean you've made more money than they have? 518 01:21:50,073 --> 01:21:51,990 Well, I write all the songs. 519 01:21:51,991 --> 01:21:54,076 No, I write the songs. 520 01:21:54,077 --> 01:21:56,537 So if you write songs, you get a bit on the side. 521 01:21:58,414 --> 01:22:04,961 You see, the thing is, as songwriter, I do have something, you know... 522 01:22:04,962 --> 01:22:07,298 - Going for you. - Going for me. 523 01:22:09,926 --> 01:22:11,510 We go for him. 524 01:22:11,511 --> 01:22:13,346 Scab. 525 01:22:16,182 --> 01:22:18,266 Carry on, Russell. 526 01:22:18,267 --> 01:22:21,603 I'm transfixed by John. I don't know why I'm here. 527 01:22:21,604 --> 01:22:25,273 In "my generation," you wrote "I hope I die before I get old." 528 01:22:25,274 --> 01:22:27,276 - Do you in fact mean this? - Yes 529 01:22:29,112 --> 01:22:32,280 guitar up here, including big-mouthed little kid 530 01:22:32,281 --> 01:22:34,408 who wants to come and fucking take it off me. 531 01:22:38,246 --> 01:22:41,414 Rock and roll has got no future. It don't matter. 532 01:22:41,415 --> 01:22:44,669 We became rich a lot later than I expected. 533 01:22:46,462 --> 01:22:50,465 Now I'm too old to enjoy my money. 534 01:22:50,466 --> 01:22:54,553 Excuse me. You know, we just shot a lot of film for the interview, 535 01:22:54,554 --> 01:22:57,430 and talking about all that. 536 01:22:57,431 --> 01:23:01,017 I was wondering now if you can really tell us the truth and stuff. 537 01:23:01,018 --> 01:23:03,478 Oh, no. 538 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,149 It's... I mean, the truth as you want to hear it? 539 01:23:07,150 --> 01:23:09,609 I can't do that. 540 01:23:09,610 --> 01:23:11,570 You couldn't afford me. 541 01:23:11,571 --> 01:23:14,489 But you're a very different person now 542 01:23:14,490 --> 01:23:17,033 to the desperate young man of the early '603, aren't you? 543 01:23:17,034 --> 01:23:19,202 Yeah, I'm a desperate old fart now. 544 01:23:19,203 --> 01:23:20,413 Not boring, though. 545 01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,355 So there. 546 01:28:39,356 --> 01:28:41,566 I've been saving that. 547 01:28:41,567 --> 01:28:43,610 You've all been behaving this crazy way well all the time. 548 01:28:43,611 --> 01:28:45,029 You're all married, aren't you? 549 01:28:48,365 --> 01:28:49,950 I wouldn't marry this lot. 550 01:28:54,455 --> 01:28:56,080 That's a great sleeve, that is. 551 01:28:56,081 --> 01:28:58,750 - If you touch my bleeding sleeve... - See? 552 01:28:58,751 --> 01:29:01,461 He's getting stroppy now. 553 01:29:01,462 --> 01:29:04,088 You leave his sleeves alone. 554 01:29:04,089 --> 01:29:05,507 Personal, them. 555 01:29:05,508 --> 01:29:07,635 Can't touch the interviewer, can we? 556 01:29:08,802 --> 01:29:10,386 No, he's in command, isn't he? 557 01:29:10,387 --> 01:29:13,014 He can make everybody else look a right twit, 558 01:29:13,015 --> 01:29:14,766 as long as you don't have a go at him. 559 01:29:14,767 --> 01:29:16,527 How long have you been happily married, then? 560 01:29:21,524 --> 01:29:24,026 You really do have a lovely life line. 561 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:25,735 Have I a long life line? 562 01:29:25,736 --> 01:29:28,029 - Here about the warts. - No, not too long. 563 01:29:28,030 --> 01:29:29,531 I should say about half a fortnight. 564 01:29:29,532 --> 01:29:34,536 Ladies and gentlemen, before my life line, according to him is two minutes long, 565 01:29:34,537 --> 01:29:36,412 which means we've got to the end of the program. 566 01:29:36,413 --> 01:29:39,457 We will be back, god willing, same time, same place, next week. 567 01:29:39,458 --> 01:29:40,875 - See you then. Good night. - He's so smooth. 568 01:29:40,876 --> 01:29:43,461 "Russell harty plus" 569 01:29:43,462 --> 01:29:46,632 this is where it all ends. 570 01:33:35,611 --> 01:33:37,905 I can't think of anything to say. 571 01:33:39,948 --> 01:33:42,200 Rock and roll's never ever stood 572 01:33:42,201 --> 01:33:45,828 dissecting and inspecting it at close range. 573 01:33:45,829 --> 01:33:48,122 It just doesn't stand up. 574 01:33:48,123 --> 01:33:49,875 So shut up. 575 01:33:51,376 --> 01:33:54,670 There is a place for us. 576 01:33:54,671 --> 01:34:01,385 I am accused of letting the side down, as it were, 577 01:34:01,386 --> 01:34:04,138 often by our fans, you know. 578 01:34:04,139 --> 01:34:05,348 Like, for example, 579 01:34:05,349 --> 01:34:08,976 you can't stop doing this. 580 01:34:08,977 --> 01:34:10,457 You can't stop doing what you're doing 581 01:34:10,646 --> 01:34:13,940 because you'd let down all these people. 582 01:34:13,941 --> 01:34:16,776 It's not people just saying "listen, you'll disappoint your fans 583 01:34:16,777 --> 01:34:18,903 if you don't go on. The show must go on. 584 01:34:18,904 --> 01:34:22,406 You must go on, othennise all those people will be so upset." 585 01:34:22,407 --> 01:34:24,700 It's "you've got to go on, man. 586 01:34:24,701 --> 01:34:27,745 Othennise, all those kids, they'll be finished. 587 01:34:27,746 --> 01:34:29,831 They'll have nothing to live for. 588 01:34:29,832 --> 01:34:30,916 That's rock and roll. 589 01:43:54,396 --> 01:43:56,689 Thank you, thank you. 43067

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