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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,136 --> 00:00:22,305 I don't need to tell you, Mr. Speaker, 2 00:00:22,338 --> 00:00:25,508 that zombies don't recognize borders and that 3 00:00:25,542 --> 00:00:29,279 a zombie invasion in the United States could easily turn into 4 00:00:29,312 --> 00:00:32,449 a continent-wide pandemic so on behalf of 5 00:00:32,482 --> 00:00:35,385 concerned Canadians everywhere, Mr. Speaker, I want to ask 6 00:00:35,418 --> 00:00:38,421 the Minister of Foreign Affairs is he working with 7 00:00:38,455 --> 00:00:40,757 his American counterparts to develop 8 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:44,527 an international zombie strategy so that a zombie invasion 9 00:00:44,561 --> 00:00:47,964 does not turn into a zombie apocalypse? 10 00:00:47,997 --> 00:00:52,202 (cheers and applause) 11 00:00:54,037 --> 00:00:59,876 Coming up next on Action News 7, a dog was found... 12 00:00:59,909 --> 00:01:02,579 excuse me just one moment... 13 00:01:02,612 --> 00:01:03,780 I see. 14 00:01:03,813 --> 00:01:08,151 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm receiving a special broadcast 15 00:01:08,184 --> 00:01:11,821 about something that's happening. 16 00:01:11,855 --> 00:01:16,359 Van Dorn Street is blocked right now by overturned cars. 17 00:01:16,392 --> 00:01:20,764 We are receiving news that the bodies of the recently deceased 18 00:01:20,797 --> 00:01:23,099 are returning to life and attacking the living. 19 00:01:23,133 --> 00:01:26,936 Officers are on their way right now to take you to safety. 20 00:01:26,970 --> 00:01:29,472 ...A live reporter out there on the scene. 21 00:01:29,506 --> 00:01:32,575 (screaming) 22 00:01:32,609 --> 00:01:36,112 There are millions, millions of zombies 23 00:01:36,146 --> 00:01:40,517 roaming the earth chewing people up. 24 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:42,619 Is that crazy or what? 25 00:01:42,652 --> 00:01:44,154 I suggest you find the tallest building 26 00:01:44,187 --> 00:01:45,989 in your town and jump off. 27 00:01:46,022 --> 00:01:48,358 The zombie outbreak is no longer an outbreak, 28 00:01:48,391 --> 00:01:51,094 but a full-on pandemic. 29 00:01:51,127 --> 00:01:57,066 Warning you to stay indoors, to lock your doors, 30 00:01:57,100 --> 00:02:01,538 to arm yourself with any weapons that are available 31 00:02:01,571 --> 00:02:04,140 and this is America so you should have plenty. 32 00:02:04,174 --> 00:02:07,277 Grab something heavy, something that you could hit 33 00:02:07,310 --> 00:02:11,881 very hard with, and let's party! 34 00:02:11,915 --> 00:02:15,819 ♪ 35 00:02:15,852 --> 00:02:20,723 ♪ The living dead are keeping me up at night ♪ 36 00:02:20,757 --> 00:02:24,227 ♪ They're hanging around outside ♪ 37 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:29,666 ♪ They're probably mad they've died ♪ 38 00:02:29,699 --> 00:02:34,470 ♪ The living dead are gathering in the streets ♪ 39 00:02:34,504 --> 00:02:38,074 ♪ I'm buried beneath my sheets ♪ 40 00:02:38,107 --> 00:02:41,811 ♪ They're making it hard to sleep ♪ 41 00:02:41,845 --> 00:02:48,384 ♪ 42 00:02:48,418 --> 00:02:55,158 ♪ I hear them shuffle in the crowd ♪ 43 00:02:55,191 --> 00:03:01,865 ♪ But do they have to be so loud ♪ 44 00:03:01,898 --> 00:03:09,239 ♪ It seems to me that all their lives were spent being noisy ♪ 45 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:14,811 ♪ And now they get to do it twice just to annoy me ♪ 46 00:03:14,844 --> 00:03:19,716 ♪ The living dead are keeping me up at night ♪ 47 00:03:19,749 --> 00:03:23,419 ♪ They're hanging around outside ♪ 48 00:03:23,453 --> 00:03:28,791 ♪ They're probably mad they've died ♪ 49 00:03:28,825 --> 00:03:33,863 ♪ The living dead are keeping me up at night ♪ 50 00:03:33,897 --> 00:03:37,300 ♪ They're hanging around outside ♪ 51 00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:39,769 ♪ They're probably mad they've died ♪ 52 00:03:41,104 --> 00:03:42,906 I'm Jonathan Leonard from Geekscape and we're going to 53 00:03:42,939 --> 00:03:45,441 find out what the average person knows about zombies. 54 00:03:45,475 --> 00:03:50,313 A zombie is someone who's dead and came out of the ground 55 00:03:50,346 --> 00:03:54,918 and is bleeding and is gross looking and they'll kill you. 56 00:03:54,951 --> 00:03:56,219 What do zombies want? 57 00:03:56,252 --> 00:03:57,654 Brains. 58 00:03:57,687 --> 00:03:58,788 What are the zombie rules? 59 00:03:58,821 --> 00:04:03,092 Zombie rules is that you die, but you don't die. 60 00:04:03,126 --> 00:04:05,762 If you want to be more like angsty and metaphorical, 61 00:04:05,795 --> 00:04:09,799 a zombie could be someone trapped in a workday 62 00:04:09,832 --> 00:04:12,402 who lives in a box and doesn't have fun. 63 00:04:12,435 --> 00:04:14,637 In Chinese tradition a zombie just jumps. 64 00:04:14,671 --> 00:04:19,342 It doesn't talk, it doesn't walk, it just jumps. 65 00:04:19,375 --> 00:04:20,910 What? 66 00:04:20,944 --> 00:04:23,479 Arms out and then it just hops like that. 67 00:04:29,652 --> 00:04:33,156 The zombie is a relentlessly aggressive, reanimated 68 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:36,059 human corpse driven by a biological infection, 69 00:04:36,092 --> 00:04:37,860 so there's kind of three aspects to that. 70 00:04:37,894 --> 00:04:39,896 You don't negotiate with a zombie, right? 71 00:04:39,929 --> 00:04:42,465 You can't talk a zombie out of wanting to eat you. 72 00:04:42,498 --> 00:04:43,566 You can't say, "Hey, go around the corner, 73 00:04:43,599 --> 00:04:45,301 there's a family of five getting in a Winnebago. 74 00:04:45,335 --> 00:04:48,037 You can eat all five of them and leave me alone." 75 00:04:48,071 --> 00:04:50,206 Secondly, it's a reanimated human corpse, limited in 76 00:04:50,239 --> 00:04:52,842 its ability so it's actually a rotting corpse. 77 00:04:52,875 --> 00:04:55,044 Thirdly, a biological infection which is, 78 00:04:55,078 --> 00:04:57,880 I think, what makes zombies really, really scary. 79 00:04:57,914 --> 00:05:00,483 MAN: They're us and they're us having succumbed to 80 00:05:00,516 --> 00:05:03,086 our worst fear which is our own death. 81 00:05:03,119 --> 00:05:06,089 You can't outstrip them even though they're slower than you. 82 00:05:06,122 --> 00:05:08,658 Eventually you have to go to sleep. 83 00:05:08,691 --> 00:05:11,060 They don't, so even if you're a mile ahead of them, 84 00:05:11,094 --> 00:05:13,463 when you're snoring they'll catch up and meet you. 85 00:05:13,496 --> 00:05:15,365 And that's like death itself. 86 00:05:15,398 --> 00:05:17,867 You do everything you can to stave it off. 87 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:20,870 You do the steps at Santa Monica, you don't eat red meat. 88 00:05:20,903 --> 00:05:22,839 They'll get you in the end. 89 00:05:25,808 --> 00:05:29,512 Most famous monsters, the big-screen monsters 90 00:05:29,545 --> 00:05:31,547 have some kind of long-standing tradition 91 00:05:31,581 --> 00:05:35,251 where their stories have been developed previously -- 92 00:05:35,284 --> 00:05:38,087 the vampire, the werewolf, even the slasher, 93 00:05:38,121 --> 00:05:42,291 the serial killer comes out of a crime novel tradition. 94 00:05:42,325 --> 00:05:45,828 The zombie comes kind of directly out of folklore 95 00:05:45,862 --> 00:05:48,998 and there really wasn't a literary narrative tradition. 96 00:05:49,032 --> 00:05:52,035 When you take a look at zombies in cinema specifically, 97 00:05:52,068 --> 00:05:54,937 you can technically go back into the silent era. 98 00:05:54,971 --> 00:05:57,874 There are, of course, classics like "Cabinet of Dr. Caligari," 99 00:05:57,907 --> 00:06:00,109 where you have the sleepwalking character in there who is 100 00:06:00,143 --> 00:06:04,347 very much zombie-like, and yet for all intents and purposes, 101 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:07,183 we all have kind of collectively agreed, 102 00:06:07,216 --> 00:06:11,220 it all starts in 1932 with "White Zombie." 103 00:06:12,588 --> 00:06:13,856 Zombies! 104 00:06:15,691 --> 00:06:17,527 The filmmakers in the '30s and '40s were kind of 105 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,463 making up these stories out of nothing. 106 00:06:20,496 --> 00:06:23,299 They weren't taking existing material and adapting it. 107 00:06:23,332 --> 00:06:25,935 If anything, they were drawing on misconceptions 108 00:06:25,968 --> 00:06:30,440 and misunderstandings of race relations in the colonies, 109 00:06:30,473 --> 00:06:33,409 sensational ideas of what voodoo and folklore 110 00:06:33,443 --> 00:06:34,811 really meant in Haiti. 111 00:06:34,844 --> 00:06:37,447 They took that idea and they kind of merged it with 112 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,116 the visual style of Todd Browning 113 00:06:40,149 --> 00:06:42,185 and the gothic tradition. 114 00:06:42,218 --> 00:06:47,156 I thought that beauty alone would satisfy, 115 00:06:47,190 --> 00:06:50,626 but the soul is gone. 116 00:06:50,660 --> 00:06:55,498 I can't bear those empty, staring eyes. 117 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:58,801 So in "White Zombie," you get a narrative that takes place 118 00:06:58,835 --> 00:07:02,772 in Haiti and it involves Haitian voodoo, but then there's 119 00:07:02,805 --> 00:07:06,843 a gothic castle on the coast of Haiti for some reason. 120 00:07:06,876 --> 00:07:10,113 So it's this weird fusion of a misunderstood, 121 00:07:10,146 --> 00:07:14,550 sensationalized folklore with an established and successful 122 00:07:14,584 --> 00:07:17,854 cinematic tradition for monsters. 123 00:07:17,887 --> 00:07:20,423 The early films are always about 124 00:07:20,456 --> 00:07:23,059 black people menacing white women. 125 00:07:23,092 --> 00:07:26,963 It's really the enslavement by the former slaves 126 00:07:26,996 --> 00:07:31,267 that makes that monster initially so terrifying. 127 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:33,903 The next major step in sort of the evolution of the zombies 128 00:07:33,936 --> 00:07:37,607 of pop culture icon comes when science fiction briefly 129 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,277 takes the lead over horror in the 1950s 130 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:44,580 and then you get movies like "Invisible Invaders..." 131 00:07:44,614 --> 00:07:46,849 People of Earth, this is your last warning. 132 00:07:46,883 --> 00:07:50,620 ...in which aliens resurrect human corpses and use them 133 00:07:50,653 --> 00:07:54,991 like puppets to try to take over which is virtually the same plot 134 00:07:55,024 --> 00:07:57,493 as "Plan 9 from Outer Space," one of the most infamous movies 135 00:07:57,527 --> 00:08:00,196 of all time, and what's interesting about those movies 136 00:08:00,229 --> 00:08:03,432 is there we have it, we have dead people coming back. 137 00:08:03,466 --> 00:08:05,101 They're not demonically possessed. 138 00:08:05,134 --> 00:08:07,937 They're not impelled by some desire to eat flesh 139 00:08:07,970 --> 00:08:09,605 or something we don't know. 140 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:13,976 They're being puppeteered by aliens, but they're zombies 141 00:08:14,010 --> 00:08:15,878 and they're more like the zombies we know today 142 00:08:15,912 --> 00:08:18,648 than the ones that preceded them. 143 00:08:18,681 --> 00:08:20,449 But then what happened was George Romero... 144 00:08:20,483 --> 00:08:26,289 TV: The dead who live on living flesh. 145 00:08:26,322 --> 00:08:31,027 The dead whose haunted souls hunt the living. 146 00:08:31,060 --> 00:08:34,764 The living whose bodies are the only food for these 147 00:08:34,797 --> 00:08:37,833 ungodly creatures. 148 00:08:37,867 --> 00:08:42,672 (screaming) 149 00:08:42,705 --> 00:08:46,042 "Night of the Living Dead." 150 00:08:48,611 --> 00:08:51,681 We were trying to create a new creature, 151 00:08:51,714 --> 00:08:55,484 somebody that was dead but came back. 152 00:08:55,518 --> 00:08:57,353 We didn't have a name for that creature. 153 00:08:57,386 --> 00:08:59,155 We called them ghouls. 154 00:09:00,656 --> 00:09:04,227 I said, "George, who are these characters chasing this girl?" 155 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:06,162 He said, "I don't know." 156 00:09:06,195 --> 00:09:08,097 And I said, "Well, when I was reading it, 157 00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:10,032 it seemed to me they could be dead people." 158 00:09:10,066 --> 00:09:11,267 He said, "That's good." 159 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:13,436 I said, "But what do they do? You don't say that either." 160 00:09:13,469 --> 00:09:15,838 He said, "I don't know." 161 00:09:15,871 --> 00:09:19,442 I said, "Why don't we use my flesh-eating idea?" 162 00:09:19,475 --> 00:09:22,178 GEORGE: There was an article in "Cahiers du Cinema" 163 00:09:22,211 --> 00:09:25,014 that called them zombies for the first time. 164 00:09:25,047 --> 00:09:28,918 I was clinging to the idea that we had created something new 165 00:09:28,951 --> 00:09:32,855 and when I read that article, I said, this ain't new at all, 166 00:09:32,888 --> 00:09:37,159 so that's when I started to accept them as zombies. 167 00:09:39,729 --> 00:09:41,197 (screaming) 168 00:09:41,230 --> 00:09:44,700 "Night of the Living Dead" did not create zombies 169 00:09:44,734 --> 00:09:48,471 but it rewrote zombie lore. 170 00:09:48,504 --> 00:09:50,273 I like to say that there were zombie movies 171 00:09:50,306 --> 00:09:52,174 before George Romero, the same way there were 172 00:09:52,208 --> 00:09:54,143 space movies before George Lucas. 173 00:09:54,176 --> 00:09:55,177 It changed everything. 174 00:09:55,211 --> 00:09:59,882 It scrapped the old voodoo zombie and gave us 175 00:09:59,915 --> 00:10:03,552 the plague-driven flesh eater. 176 00:10:03,586 --> 00:10:07,189 The idea of the end of the world and zombies are around 177 00:10:07,223 --> 00:10:09,659 and the world's been overtaken by them 178 00:10:09,692 --> 00:10:12,695 and it's people against zombies and our population is dwindling 179 00:10:12,728 --> 00:10:14,864 was introduced in that movie and no one had ever really 180 00:10:14,897 --> 00:10:17,500 taken zombies in that direction before. 181 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:20,503 It's almost as if the zombie as we know it was some sort of 182 00:10:20,536 --> 00:10:22,571 like biblical figure that's been around forever 183 00:10:22,605 --> 00:10:23,973 and we can all pick up and use it. 184 00:10:24,006 --> 00:10:26,642 It's not, it was George's idea, the whole biting thing, 185 00:10:26,676 --> 00:10:31,113 the passing on the disease, the waking up -- all George. 186 00:10:31,147 --> 00:10:36,319 What's monumental to me about that film was the fact that 187 00:10:36,352 --> 00:10:41,824 in 1968, this film was released with a black man 188 00:10:41,857 --> 00:10:46,028 and a white woman, and throughout the entire movie, 189 00:10:46,062 --> 00:10:50,299 nobody made a big deal out of the fact that 190 00:10:50,333 --> 00:10:53,069 we had two different colors. 191 00:10:53,102 --> 00:10:55,738 It was pure survival. 192 00:11:03,479 --> 00:11:05,981 GEORGE: We thought we were pushing the envelope a little. 193 00:11:06,015 --> 00:11:08,250 We thought that some of the scenes with the guts 194 00:11:08,284 --> 00:11:12,154 and when the kids get roasted in the truck... 195 00:11:12,188 --> 00:11:15,858 we had actually one shot of a naked zombie from behind. 196 00:11:15,891 --> 00:11:18,761 Bold -- that's about as bold as we went. 197 00:11:18,794 --> 00:11:24,133 There were extreme audience and media reactions. 198 00:11:24,166 --> 00:11:28,637 Reviewers who thought that we were satanically inspired, 199 00:11:28,671 --> 00:11:32,641 that we were scourges, that our film should be banned. 200 00:11:32,675 --> 00:11:35,745 Horror movies were not raw like that back then. 201 00:11:35,778 --> 00:11:39,048 George's was almost like a real thing, a documentary. 202 00:11:39,081 --> 00:11:40,850 The reaction to that movie is what really got me going 203 00:11:40,883 --> 00:11:43,853 because it said people were fainting in theatres 204 00:11:43,886 --> 00:11:47,990 and I thought, I don't think I want to see this movie. 205 00:11:48,023 --> 00:11:50,159 It made me not want to see it and then when I saw it, 206 00:11:50,192 --> 00:11:52,228 I was like, yeah, that's why I didn't want to see it. 207 00:11:52,261 --> 00:11:55,231 I remember the first time I saw it was at a midnight screening 208 00:11:55,264 --> 00:11:57,566 and the audience was absolutely terrified. 209 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,836 The sequence that blew people away was the little girl 210 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:03,706 down in the basement who we discover 211 00:12:03,739 --> 00:12:07,543 is chewing on her parents' intestines. 212 00:12:07,576 --> 00:12:08,744 The entire audience flipped out. 213 00:12:08,778 --> 00:12:11,847 People got up and left the theatre during that scene. 214 00:12:11,881 --> 00:12:16,886 Midway through the movie I hear this "boom, boom, boom," 215 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:18,654 and I'm wondering what's going on? 216 00:12:18,687 --> 00:12:20,122 Was this part of the movie? 217 00:12:20,156 --> 00:12:24,894 And all of a sudden, I see this guy go down the aisle... 218 00:12:24,927 --> 00:12:28,664 He blasts through the doors, out to the curb 219 00:12:28,697 --> 00:12:34,336 and goes, blech... all over Cambridge Avenue. 220 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:37,339 I said, okay, I've got to meet this guy. 221 00:12:37,373 --> 00:12:40,342 Whoever made this movie, I've got to meet this guy. 222 00:12:40,376 --> 00:12:46,982 ♪ 223 00:12:47,016 --> 00:12:55,958 ♪ Driving slowly going home to see their mother's grave ♪ 224 00:12:55,991 --> 00:13:04,600 ♪ Walking closely there's an old man whose clothes are decayed ♪ 225 00:13:04,633 --> 00:13:07,403 ♪ John can see that she's frightened ♪ 226 00:13:07,436 --> 00:13:15,411 ♪ So he tries to lighten the mood ♪ 227 00:13:15,444 --> 00:13:20,216 ♪ They're coming to get you, Barbara ♪ 228 00:13:20,249 --> 00:13:24,854 ♪ They're coming and they'll be here soon ♪ 229 00:13:24,887 --> 00:13:26,856 ♪ Don't be afraid ♪ 230 00:13:26,889 --> 00:13:33,095 ♪ They just want your brain and they're coming to get you ♪ 231 00:13:38,767 --> 00:13:40,936 The greatest zombie film in my opinion is "Dawn of the Dead." 232 00:13:40,970 --> 00:13:44,006 Every time it's scary, it becomes funny, 233 00:13:44,039 --> 00:13:45,441 and every time it's funny it becomes scary. 234 00:13:45,474 --> 00:13:46,809 Zombies on an ice skating rink, 235 00:13:46,842 --> 00:13:48,711 it doesn't get any funnier than that. 236 00:13:48,744 --> 00:13:51,647 It almost as if history conspires to hand Romero 237 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:54,483 the absolute perfect metaphor for the zombie. 238 00:13:54,517 --> 00:13:56,418 You couldn't do any better than that. 239 00:13:56,452 --> 00:13:59,421 We're a nation that has become the shambling consumers 240 00:13:59,455 --> 00:14:01,824 that walk up and down the hallways desperately wanting 241 00:14:01,857 --> 00:14:05,394 to consume and we have lost all individuality. 242 00:14:05,427 --> 00:14:07,530 It's absolutely perfect. 243 00:14:07,563 --> 00:14:10,466 For me, "Dawn of the Dead" was kind of the seminal zombie movie 244 00:14:10,499 --> 00:14:12,134 because it really was the middle finger 245 00:14:12,167 --> 00:14:14,169 to the death of the baby boomers. 246 00:14:14,203 --> 00:14:18,073 It was this generation that started off so idealistic 247 00:14:18,107 --> 00:14:22,011 and was so, "Hey man, don't trust anyone over 30, man. 248 00:14:22,044 --> 00:14:23,946 Don't trust anyone over 30!" 249 00:14:23,979 --> 00:14:25,648 And then they turn 30! 250 00:14:25,681 --> 00:14:27,950 (laughter) 251 00:14:27,983 --> 00:14:30,286 I mean, that moment where they say, "What is that?" 252 00:14:30,319 --> 00:14:32,388 And he goes, "Looks like a shopping center, 253 00:14:32,421 --> 00:14:33,822 one of those new indoor malls." 254 00:14:33,856 --> 00:14:36,091 See, there were no shopping centers. 255 00:14:36,125 --> 00:14:40,062 That was the first shopping center that we had ever seen. 256 00:14:40,095 --> 00:14:42,798 With the dawn of the death of the ideals. 257 00:14:42,831 --> 00:14:46,769 Every time it's Black Friday, how can you not think of 258 00:14:46,802 --> 00:14:48,571 "Dawn of the Dead?" 259 00:14:48,604 --> 00:14:55,611 It's chilling and disgusting all at once, you know? 260 00:14:55,644 --> 00:14:58,113 MAN: So there is this evolutionary process that George 261 00:14:58,147 --> 00:15:01,317 is going through and in "Day..." what he does is he says, 262 00:15:01,350 --> 00:15:04,887 okay, now we're going to see the zombies evolve, 263 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,357 and that was groundbreaking. 264 00:15:08,390 --> 00:15:12,061 That's what George's genius is, I think, that he completely 265 00:15:12,094 --> 00:15:15,297 swaps allegiances with his films. 266 00:15:15,331 --> 00:15:17,833 Often, you'll root for the zombies which is, you know, 267 00:15:17,866 --> 00:15:20,169 you never root for the zombies in contemporary zombie films 268 00:15:20,202 --> 00:15:22,571 because they're at our protagonist's throats literally 269 00:15:22,605 --> 00:15:24,506 and we don't want those protagonists to die, 270 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:27,409 whereas, with, particularly with "Day..." most of the human 271 00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:31,013 characters are hideous, monstrous, aggressive military 272 00:15:31,046 --> 00:15:33,315 types who you just want to see torn to pieces 273 00:15:33,349 --> 00:15:37,953 and when Bob shoots Captain Rhodes, you cheer. 274 00:15:49,398 --> 00:15:52,701 It's all down to Howard Sherman being just so sweet, you know, 275 00:15:52,735 --> 00:15:55,270 when he's using the razor and he's on the phone 276 00:15:55,304 --> 00:15:57,206 and he's listening to the music and he's hearing music 277 00:15:57,239 --> 00:15:59,608 for the first time and it's like a baby. 278 00:15:59,642 --> 00:16:02,711 I just think it's one of the most beautiful performances 279 00:16:02,745 --> 00:16:06,482 since Karloff's "Frankenstein" as a kind of adult newborn. 280 00:16:06,515 --> 00:16:07,916 There's something so deeply tragic 281 00:16:07,950 --> 00:16:10,285 and sympathetic about him. 282 00:16:10,319 --> 00:16:11,520 Oh, I don't feel that at all. 283 00:16:11,553 --> 00:16:13,722 There's nothing tragic in a reanimated corpse. 284 00:16:13,756 --> 00:16:14,790 How can there be? 285 00:16:14,823 --> 00:16:17,359 A reanimated corpse is just a reanimated corpse. 286 00:16:17,393 --> 00:16:18,460 There's nothing tragic about it. 287 00:16:18,494 --> 00:16:19,828 You shoot it in the head. 288 00:16:19,862 --> 00:16:21,463 Bob's your uncle. 289 00:16:21,497 --> 00:16:25,768 HOWARD: Boris Karloff, with that role, had the opportunity to do 290 00:16:25,801 --> 00:16:32,341 a lot of very subtle intimate things, most monsters don't. 291 00:16:32,374 --> 00:16:34,843 In, as Bob, I did too. 292 00:16:34,877 --> 00:16:38,280 I had a lot of very interesting, subtle, 293 00:16:38,313 --> 00:16:42,851 and by genre standards, very unusual things to do 294 00:16:42,885 --> 00:16:48,891 and the fact that I had the opportunity to do something 295 00:16:48,924 --> 00:16:52,294 like that is what brought an element of humanity to it 296 00:16:52,327 --> 00:16:55,564 that normally you just don't find in the genre. 297 00:16:55,597 --> 00:16:58,634 GEORGE: I don't think zombies are intelligent. 298 00:16:58,667 --> 00:17:01,336 I think that they just remember what they used to do, 299 00:17:01,370 --> 00:17:02,705 what they used to be. 300 00:17:02,738 --> 00:17:07,376 My zombie characters that have some personality, I think, 301 00:17:07,409 --> 00:17:13,348 are just -- what they do because of their memory 302 00:17:13,382 --> 00:17:18,787 makes them a bit heroic, but it's just memory. 303 00:17:18,821 --> 00:17:20,022 It's just memory. 304 00:17:20,055 --> 00:17:21,757 I mean, it's just like when you first see Big Daddy 305 00:17:21,790 --> 00:17:25,360 in "Land of the Dead," he's doing what he always did. 306 00:17:25,394 --> 00:17:27,830 He's trying to fill gas. 307 00:17:27,863 --> 00:17:31,467 He hears the bell, "ding-ding" and he thinks a car came in, 308 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:34,269 so he comes out looking to fill somebody's car. 309 00:17:34,303 --> 00:17:39,141 I mean, that's how stupid he is, but he's heroic. 310 00:17:39,174 --> 00:17:40,676 (laughing) 311 00:17:50,319 --> 00:17:53,255 (yawning) 312 00:17:53,288 --> 00:17:55,657 What a perfectly average morning, 313 00:17:55,691 --> 00:17:59,061 nothing unusual about today which makes it the perfect day 314 00:17:59,094 --> 00:18:02,931 for a zombie apocalypse to not happen. 315 00:18:03,699 --> 00:18:06,068 (humming) 316 00:18:06,101 --> 00:18:07,870 It's beautiful morning. 317 00:18:07,903 --> 00:18:11,073 Mmm, I smell breakfast cooking. 318 00:18:11,106 --> 00:18:14,343 Oh, what's this on the news? 319 00:18:14,376 --> 00:18:16,645 But it has been reported that the dead 320 00:18:16,678 --> 00:18:19,014 are coming back to life. 321 00:18:19,047 --> 00:18:19,948 Oh my God! 322 00:18:19,982 --> 00:18:21,817 The president is declaring marshal law 323 00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:24,386 for the state of New York. 324 00:18:24,419 --> 00:18:26,421 Betty? Is that you? 325 00:18:26,455 --> 00:18:29,091 Is that blood all over your jammy-jams? 326 00:18:29,124 --> 00:18:30,659 Why are you just standing there? 327 00:18:30,692 --> 00:18:34,630 Why is there a smoke machine running in the hallway now? 328 00:18:34,663 --> 00:18:35,731 Oh well. 329 00:18:35,764 --> 00:18:37,466 Even though I've seen this scene a million times 330 00:18:37,499 --> 00:18:40,369 in every movie, I'm just going to slowly start 331 00:18:40,402 --> 00:18:43,939 walking towards you with my arms outstretched, 332 00:18:43,972 --> 00:18:46,141 asking if everything's okay, even though 333 00:18:46,175 --> 00:18:49,578 this looks highly suspicious and at any moment you're going to... 334 00:18:49,611 --> 00:18:51,380 Oh my God! 335 00:18:51,413 --> 00:18:54,249 Zombies are the only horror films that I know where 336 00:18:54,283 --> 00:18:56,952 you're totally minding your own business and you're not looking 337 00:18:56,985 --> 00:19:01,523 for trouble and you're not the hot girl or the token black guy. 338 00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:04,326 You've broken no rules to let you get killed 339 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,495 but they come for you anyway. 340 00:19:06,528 --> 00:19:08,530 It's not about you, that's the main thing. 341 00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:11,433 If something is going to eviscerate you, eat your guts, 342 00:19:11,466 --> 00:19:13,302 you'd like it to be about your guts, right? 343 00:19:13,335 --> 00:19:16,605 You'd like your guts to be special, but if I can just 344 00:19:16,638 --> 00:19:19,541 step to the left and he eats that guy's guts, 345 00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:21,243 it's not about me anymore. 346 00:19:21,276 --> 00:19:22,344 Vampires are all about me. 347 00:19:22,377 --> 00:19:24,646 They make me feel sexy and libidinal and all that. 348 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,982 Zombies, they could care less about me 349 00:19:27,015 --> 00:19:28,383 and that's actually our biggest nightmare. 350 00:19:28,417 --> 00:19:29,418 They don't sparkle. 351 00:19:29,451 --> 00:19:30,452 Right. 352 00:19:30,485 --> 00:19:32,321 (laughter) 353 00:19:32,354 --> 00:19:34,723 Every time you look at a zombie in pop culture, whether it's 354 00:19:34,756 --> 00:19:38,160 a movie or a television show or a comic book, anything, 355 00:19:38,193 --> 00:19:40,429 it is ultimately just a reflection of things 356 00:19:40,462 --> 00:19:42,331 we're afraid of at that moment. 357 00:19:42,364 --> 00:19:44,433 When you start with "Night of the living Dead," 358 00:19:44,466 --> 00:19:48,070 1960s, late '60s, we're afraid of Vietnam, 359 00:19:48,103 --> 00:19:50,205 we're afraid of the death we're seeing on television. 360 00:19:50,239 --> 00:19:52,875 That's easy, but we're also afraid about what's happening 361 00:19:52,908 --> 00:19:56,612 to the home, the nuclear family is breaking down. 362 00:19:56,645 --> 00:19:58,313 So "Night of the Living Dead" becomes a literal 363 00:19:58,347 --> 00:20:00,182 siege on the home. 364 00:20:00,215 --> 00:20:01,917 Jump ahead ten years -- "Dawn of the Dead," 365 00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:03,051 what are we afraid of now? 366 00:20:03,085 --> 00:20:04,887 Consumerism, consumption. 367 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,889 Jump ahead -- "Day of the Dead," 368 00:20:06,922 --> 00:20:08,657 now we're afraid of the Cold War, 369 00:20:08,690 --> 00:20:12,494 we're afraid of the apocalypse, of nuclear destruction. 370 00:20:12,527 --> 00:20:15,464 As the culture changed, zombies, to an extent, 371 00:20:15,497 --> 00:20:16,598 changed along with it. 372 00:20:16,632 --> 00:20:18,166 In the 1980s all of a sudden, you see them starting to 373 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,568 get a little bit funny. 374 00:20:19,601 --> 00:20:20,702 You had "Return of the Living Dead," 375 00:20:20,736 --> 00:20:22,738 all of a sudden, you have all this comedy going on. 376 00:20:22,771 --> 00:20:25,207 The '80s were sort of a little bit of a lighter time. 377 00:20:33,515 --> 00:20:35,817 Brains! 378 00:20:35,851 --> 00:20:39,454 But it's also desperately frightening and depressing. 379 00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:41,924 That is probably one of the most, if not the most, 380 00:20:41,957 --> 00:20:44,559 apocalyptic zombie movies ever made. 381 00:20:44,593 --> 00:20:46,762 They're also the most indestructible and frightening 382 00:20:46,795 --> 00:20:49,264 zombies in zombie movie history. 383 00:20:49,298 --> 00:20:52,768 If you ever find yourself in a zombie apocalypse, the key, 384 00:20:52,801 --> 00:20:54,603 the first thing you should look for is, are you in 385 00:20:54,636 --> 00:20:56,738 the "Return of the Living Dead" Universe or not, 386 00:20:56,772 --> 00:20:59,841 because if you are, give up, there's no hope. 387 00:21:00,776 --> 00:21:03,011 Brains! 388 00:21:03,045 --> 00:21:04,246 Another thing that's interesting about 389 00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:07,015 "Return of the Living Dead" is it gives rise to one of 390 00:21:07,049 --> 00:21:10,886 the longest-lasting aspects of the zombie in pop culture... 391 00:21:10,919 --> 00:21:13,689 More brains! 392 00:21:13,722 --> 00:21:15,090 ...and that's the idea of the zombies 393 00:21:15,123 --> 00:21:17,192 coming back wanting brains. 394 00:21:17,225 --> 00:21:28,470 ♪ Brains, brains, brains... ♪ 395 00:21:28,503 --> 00:21:30,405 So the '90's were kind of, I don't want to say they were 396 00:21:30,439 --> 00:21:33,742 a dead era, but they were definitely slow comparatively. 397 00:21:33,775 --> 00:21:35,577 Party's over. 398 00:21:35,610 --> 00:21:37,412 "Dead Alive," Peter Jackson's Sumatran rat-monkey 399 00:21:37,446 --> 00:21:40,849 family issue, gore-fest insanity. 400 00:21:40,882 --> 00:21:43,552 It was probably the most important film of the '90s. 401 00:21:46,488 --> 00:21:47,889 And then 9/11 came along 402 00:21:47,923 --> 00:21:50,659 and all of a sudden, everything felt up-ended. 403 00:21:50,692 --> 00:21:53,028 I think it primed the culture, the larger culture, 404 00:21:53,061 --> 00:21:55,130 not the people who already like zombies, 405 00:21:55,163 --> 00:21:59,301 but the larger culture to accept and entertain the idea 406 00:21:59,334 --> 00:22:02,571 of apocalyptic scenarios being a possibility. 407 00:22:02,604 --> 00:22:05,307 A few years later when Katrina happened, anyone who still had 408 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:07,776 faith, "don't worry, no matter what happens, we can handle it," 409 00:22:07,809 --> 00:22:09,344 this was an aberration. 410 00:22:09,378 --> 00:22:11,747 I think that shook it as well. 411 00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:13,749 I don't think the zombie culture would be where it was today 412 00:22:13,782 --> 00:22:15,717 if it weren't for those kind of things. 413 00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:18,854 It brought death to people's doorstep. 414 00:22:18,887 --> 00:22:22,758 You have "28 Days Later" which has plenty of imagery which is 415 00:22:22,791 --> 00:22:27,329 evocative of an apocalypse or a natural disaster. 416 00:22:27,362 --> 00:22:30,265 This fear of disease, so we start seeing more and more 417 00:22:30,298 --> 00:22:34,102 of the infection narratives and the invasion narratives 418 00:22:34,136 --> 00:22:38,340 as a kind of a reflection of the fears of the 21st century. 419 00:22:38,373 --> 00:22:42,411 Zombies are very versatile as metaphors because they are us. 420 00:22:42,444 --> 00:22:44,946 They are the people among you, 421 00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:47,482 and I think maybe that preoccupation in society, 422 00:22:47,516 --> 00:22:50,585 the lack of safety that we're suddenly all feeling, 423 00:22:50,619 --> 00:22:55,190 zombies are a good way to cathartically act out that fear. 424 00:22:55,223 --> 00:22:57,893 What I always find fascinating about zombies 425 00:22:57,926 --> 00:23:01,930 is the "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" aspect. 426 00:23:06,701 --> 00:23:11,773 The most horrific idea is that your brother, your wife, 427 00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:17,746 your sister, a loved one, externally, on the outside, 428 00:23:17,779 --> 00:23:21,083 that person is exactly the same, but on the inside 429 00:23:21,116 --> 00:23:23,852 everything is gone, everything is erased. 430 00:23:26,421 --> 00:23:29,491 KYLE: To me, what the zombie narrative is really about 431 00:23:29,524 --> 00:23:32,661 is losing friends and family. 432 00:23:32,694 --> 00:23:38,700 Having your loved ones turn against you, become monstrous, 433 00:23:38,733 --> 00:23:41,470 but the biggest threat that you face isn't some nameless, 434 00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:45,006 faceless, other monster -- it's your mom, 435 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,808 it's your sister, it's your wife. 436 00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:50,745 That, to me, encapsulates the real terror of the zombie, 437 00:23:50,779 --> 00:23:53,415 the fact that we all have the potential within us 438 00:23:53,448 --> 00:23:54,649 to be monstrous. 439 00:23:54,683 --> 00:24:03,592 ♪ 440 00:24:03,625 --> 00:24:05,994 There's that trailer, it's called "Dead Island," 441 00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:09,064 it was a video game and you see this kind of freaky girl 442 00:24:09,097 --> 00:24:12,501 attacking an older man and then it kind of all goes in reverse 443 00:24:12,534 --> 00:24:14,736 ending with it being like a family vacation 444 00:24:14,769 --> 00:24:16,371 and they're taking a photo together. 445 00:24:16,404 --> 00:24:19,808 You realize it was his daughter that he's beating with a bat. 446 00:24:19,841 --> 00:24:20,842 (laughing) 447 00:24:20,876 --> 00:24:21,943 It was pretty awesome. 448 00:24:21,977 --> 00:24:24,713 I dreamt about them last night, I dreamt about them. 449 00:24:24,746 --> 00:24:28,517 I thought making "Shaun of the Dead" would stop 450 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:30,685 my recurring dreams about zombies, but it hasn't. 451 00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:33,555 I still occasionally have a dream where I'm in 452 00:24:33,588 --> 00:24:37,058 that classic situation where they're outside the house 453 00:24:37,092 --> 00:24:41,429 and I can't get away and it's fucking terrifying. 454 00:24:42,898 --> 00:24:45,066 "Shaun" happened because Edgar Wright and myself 455 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,502 were making a TV show, "Spaced." 456 00:24:47,536 --> 00:24:49,437 The beginning of one of the episodes starts with me 457 00:24:49,471 --> 00:24:53,375 lost in the game "Resident Evil" and it was just a very sort of 458 00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:58,547 sneaky way to enable myself to shoot some zombies. 459 00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:01,183 They totally captured that feeling of Romero's films, 460 00:25:01,216 --> 00:25:02,384 that shambolic zombie. 461 00:25:02,417 --> 00:25:04,252 It looked like they'd almost watched those movies 462 00:25:04,286 --> 00:25:06,555 to get the way those creatures moved. 463 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:09,858 It really ignited that sort of love in me again, 464 00:25:09,891 --> 00:25:11,626 and Edgar as well, and we started talking about 465 00:25:11,660 --> 00:25:13,361 "Dawn of the Dead" and how much we loved it 466 00:25:13,395 --> 00:25:15,163 and then we had "Dawn of the Dead" on set, 467 00:25:15,197 --> 00:25:16,932 and we were like, we should make a zombie film. 468 00:25:23,672 --> 00:25:26,975 Well, I have to say that "Shaun of the Dead" was probably 469 00:25:27,008 --> 00:25:30,912 my favorite zombie film that wasn't made by me. 470 00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:33,715 I think "Shaun of the Dead" is probably 471 00:25:33,748 --> 00:25:35,317 the second most important zombie film ever made 472 00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:37,786 because of the social commentary. 473 00:25:39,788 --> 00:25:42,591 It encapsulates an entire generation 474 00:25:42,624 --> 00:25:45,227 of young English people in the very same way 475 00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:48,830 Kevin Smith's "Clerks" encapsulated my generation. 476 00:25:48,863 --> 00:25:50,699 Forget zombies, I think if you just were going to look 477 00:25:50,732 --> 00:25:54,102 at a movie that put that generation through a lens, 478 00:25:54,135 --> 00:25:55,937 that's "Shaun of the Dead." 479 00:25:59,741 --> 00:26:01,543 The "Walking Dead" came about because of my love 480 00:26:01,576 --> 00:26:06,481 of George Romero films and zombie movies in general. 481 00:26:06,514 --> 00:26:09,517 Most zombie films end with either all of the characters 482 00:26:09,551 --> 00:26:12,387 dying or two or three of the characters living, 483 00:26:12,420 --> 00:26:14,889 while all of the others die and they kind of ride off 484 00:26:14,923 --> 00:26:17,158 into the sunset and you never know where they go. 485 00:26:17,192 --> 00:26:20,328 The "Walking Dead" was devised as 486 00:26:20,362 --> 00:26:23,531 the zombie movie that never ends. 487 00:26:23,565 --> 00:26:28,470 I will plainly say that Bram Stoker is to Stephenie Meyer 488 00:26:28,503 --> 00:26:30,705 as George Romero is to Robert Kirkman. 489 00:26:30,739 --> 00:26:33,074 There is no "Walking Dead" without "Night of the Living 490 00:26:33,108 --> 00:26:35,877 Dead," "Dawn of the Dead," "Day of the Dead." 491 00:26:35,910 --> 00:26:37,312 I definitely owe that guy. 492 00:26:40,649 --> 00:26:43,885 When Ben comes out of that house at the end of 493 00:26:43,918 --> 00:26:46,888 "Night of the Living Dead," and you think he's getting rescued 494 00:26:46,921 --> 00:26:49,224 and instead he gets shot... 495 00:26:49,257 --> 00:26:51,126 Okay, he's dead. Let's go get him. 496 00:26:51,159 --> 00:26:52,861 That's another one for the farm. 497 00:26:52,894 --> 00:26:54,796 ...the sinking feeling that that gives you, 498 00:26:54,829 --> 00:26:58,433 the sense of loss, definitely inspires the way 499 00:26:58,466 --> 00:27:01,069 that I want to mess with expectations. 500 00:27:01,102 --> 00:27:05,340 If characters weren't dying constantly in a zombie story, 501 00:27:05,373 --> 00:27:08,376 in an apocalyptic story, it would be completely false 502 00:27:08,410 --> 00:27:11,713 and fake and unrealistic and it'd be complete bullshit 503 00:27:11,746 --> 00:27:14,249 and there are times when I'm writing a "Walking Dead" comic 504 00:27:14,282 --> 00:27:17,319 where I'll go, wait a minute, it's been like ten issues 505 00:27:17,352 --> 00:27:18,620 and no one's died. 506 00:27:18,653 --> 00:27:21,423 This sucks, someone's got to die this issue. 507 00:27:21,456 --> 00:27:25,994 People gots to die, otherwise it's just dull. 508 00:27:29,164 --> 00:27:32,434 Because the zombie was kind of organically created by different 509 00:27:32,467 --> 00:27:36,938 people, I think filmmakers and authors and video game designers 510 00:27:36,971 --> 00:27:40,809 feel they have a great deal of liberty with what a zombie is, 511 00:27:40,842 --> 00:27:43,211 so we can have zombies that are dead, 512 00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:45,413 but we can also have zombies that are alive. 513 00:27:45,447 --> 00:27:47,816 You can have zombies that drink blood, but you can also have 514 00:27:47,849 --> 00:27:50,585 zombies that eat flesh or just eat brains. 515 00:27:50,618 --> 00:27:52,253 You can have zombies that are weak, 516 00:27:52,287 --> 00:27:55,690 you can have zombies that are super strong, some zombies talk, 517 00:27:55,724 --> 00:28:00,362 most don't, some can feel things, some can't. 518 00:28:00,395 --> 00:28:03,064 That movie "Wall-E," you know, the Pixar movie, 519 00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:05,400 I feel like that's kind of a zombie movie, you know, 520 00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:07,969 when he goes up and the robot finds all the earthlings 521 00:28:08,002 --> 00:28:11,639 that are just these fat blobs hooked up to machines. 522 00:28:11,673 --> 00:28:14,542 Those are G-rated, benevolent zombies. 523 00:28:14,576 --> 00:28:18,146 (screaming) 524 00:28:22,517 --> 00:28:24,486 We got into this idea in "Reanimator," 525 00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:27,455 that when they're reanimated, that it somehow frees their 526 00:28:27,489 --> 00:28:30,658 libido and so that's kind of what Dr. Hill is. 527 00:28:30,692 --> 00:28:33,628 This is a guy who is lusting after the dean's daughter, 528 00:28:33,661 --> 00:28:39,100 but never was able to really act on it until he's reanimated 529 00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:41,736 and in the course of the movie, he converts himself as 530 00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:43,605 the improved Dr. Hill. 531 00:28:43,638 --> 00:28:47,442 In a way, it's a more honest doctor. 532 00:28:47,475 --> 00:28:50,311 He almost breaks the rules of the zombie 533 00:28:50,345 --> 00:28:53,548 because he has a stronger idea of who he is. 534 00:28:53,581 --> 00:28:56,684 Deadites and zombies are from different families, 535 00:28:56,718 --> 00:28:58,353 different species. 536 00:28:58,386 --> 00:29:01,289 A deadite is someone who isn't necessarily dead, 537 00:29:01,322 --> 00:29:02,924 they just got possessed. 538 00:29:02,957 --> 00:29:05,593 It's weird, in "Evil Dead," we have both. 539 00:29:05,627 --> 00:29:08,897 In "Army of Darkness," we have an army of the dead, 540 00:29:08,930 --> 00:29:11,566 skeletons coming back and they get to talk. 541 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,902 I don't know how they do that without a larynx, but you know. 542 00:29:13,935 --> 00:29:15,804 Bring on the wench! 543 00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:17,472 I think with like "Army of Darkness," you didn't want 544 00:29:17,505 --> 00:29:20,008 to be alive or dead, you didn't even want to be in that movie 545 00:29:20,041 --> 00:29:22,811 if you weren't Ash, because everyone else is dead 546 00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:24,779 or possessed ultimately. 547 00:29:24,813 --> 00:29:27,615 Anybody that argues that because something is alive can't be 548 00:29:27,649 --> 00:29:30,151 a zombie, obviously doesn't remember the history 549 00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:32,654 about voodoo zombies and how it all started. 550 00:29:32,687 --> 00:29:34,823 So I count the infected. 551 00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:36,291 Even though Danny Boyle would say he didn't make 552 00:29:36,324 --> 00:29:38,960 a zombie movie, but I'm sorry, he's wrong. 553 00:29:38,993 --> 00:29:40,695 He actually made a zombie movie. 554 00:29:42,397 --> 00:29:44,732 So the word zombie, as we spell it in English, is pretty close 555 00:29:44,766 --> 00:29:48,403 to the Haitian/French "zombi," with just a terminal "I" 556 00:29:48,436 --> 00:29:51,706 and it probably comes from a Congolese word, 557 00:29:51,739 --> 00:29:54,909 "Nzambi" with an "N." 558 00:29:54,943 --> 00:29:58,046 WOMAN: In some places, there is a God named Nzambi. 559 00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:00,448 There was a revolutionary hero named Nzambi. 560 00:30:00,482 --> 00:30:02,884 Some people have associated it with a type of bird. 561 00:30:02,917 --> 00:30:06,187 Other people say there's a plant called zombie. 562 00:30:06,221 --> 00:30:14,229 The zombie is somebody who was supposed to be dead, 563 00:30:14,262 --> 00:30:16,331 but who's not. 564 00:30:16,364 --> 00:30:20,168 The origin of the zombie in Africa was a separation 565 00:30:20,201 --> 00:30:25,073 of spirit from body and being stuck in the mortal world. 566 00:30:25,106 --> 00:30:28,276 WOMAN: Dutch slavers, Portuguese slavers heard tales 567 00:30:28,309 --> 00:30:31,045 of these fears that the people had that 568 00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:35,416 witch doctors were capable of stealing their souls. 569 00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:37,685 They would steal a person's soul, 570 00:30:37,719 --> 00:30:39,521 put it in some kind of vessel, 571 00:30:39,554 --> 00:30:44,158 and then the body would keep laboring for the witch doctor. 572 00:30:44,192 --> 00:30:47,829 Somewhere around the colony of San Domingue, 573 00:30:47,862 --> 00:30:52,033 around the Haitian Revolution of 1800, the word zombie 574 00:30:52,066 --> 00:30:54,636 and the soul capture mythology come together 575 00:30:54,669 --> 00:30:56,538 and from that point on, we're talking about 576 00:30:56,571 --> 00:30:59,140 the zombie as a walking corpse. 577 00:31:00,742 --> 00:31:04,379 Zombification is just one of the things they do as a form of 578 00:31:04,412 --> 00:31:10,552 punishment, where you go into a form of slavery never to return. 579 00:31:10,585 --> 00:31:14,989 EMERANTE: Since he doesn't have any life, they think he's dead. 580 00:31:15,023 --> 00:31:17,125 They bury the person. 581 00:31:17,158 --> 00:31:20,161 He has a certain time to wake up. 582 00:31:20,194 --> 00:31:23,731 They take the person out of where he is buried. 583 00:31:23,765 --> 00:31:32,473 He's still half awake and half dead and that's a zombie. 584 00:31:33,708 --> 00:31:37,579 If you want to understand what is a zombie, it is somebody 585 00:31:37,612 --> 00:31:44,285 who has one part of his identity that has been torn down. 586 00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,822 You have a part of your intelligence that's like a 587 00:31:47,855 --> 00:31:52,293 window and when it's torn down, you lose your will, 588 00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:56,230 and that will lead the will of doing bad things to others, 589 00:31:56,264 --> 00:31:59,467 and this is what Hollywood has not understood 590 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,904 is he cannot do harm. 591 00:32:02,937 --> 00:32:08,309 In other places, people who commit crimes are usually put 592 00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:13,681 in a gas chamber or they are killed by the electric chair, 593 00:32:13,715 --> 00:32:15,750 which to me is horrible. 594 00:32:15,783 --> 00:32:22,957 In fact, it is desecrating the human being because 595 00:32:22,991 --> 00:32:26,728 a human being should be treated with respect all the time. 596 00:32:26,761 --> 00:32:32,200 To me, zombification is something spiritual. 597 00:32:38,139 --> 00:32:42,577 Wade Davis famously went down from Harvard as an ethnobotanist 598 00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:45,780 and he did some research into what could possibly be 599 00:32:45,813 --> 00:32:50,018 the scientific origins of this tradition. 600 00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:53,154 SARAH: Davis theorized that it was actually possible 601 00:32:53,187 --> 00:32:57,425 with a poison, it's called tetrodotoxin, to poison someone, 602 00:32:57,458 --> 00:33:00,328 give them the appearance of death that was so believable 603 00:33:00,361 --> 00:33:03,331 that you could then have them buried, have a funeral for them, 604 00:33:03,364 --> 00:33:07,468 dig them up later, and then keep them in a kind of comatose state 605 00:33:07,502 --> 00:33:10,538 so that they would only be able to do the most basic commands, 606 00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:13,374 so that, in effect, you could keep them as a slave, 607 00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:15,476 as a slave that people would perceive to be 608 00:33:15,510 --> 00:33:18,846 nothing but the walking dead. 609 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,617 KYLE: We have evidence that people being turned into zombies 610 00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:25,753 was a real problem in Haiti because part of the Haitian 611 00:33:25,787 --> 00:33:29,724 criminal code actually has a law against 612 00:33:29,757 --> 00:33:31,459 turning people into zombies. 613 00:33:31,492 --> 00:33:33,294 It's actually on their books. 614 00:33:33,327 --> 00:33:37,632 It is illegal to poison someone, bring them back, 615 00:33:37,665 --> 00:33:40,835 and sell them as slaves. 616 00:33:40,868 --> 00:33:43,171 SARAH: Even though we think of this as an American monster, 617 00:33:43,204 --> 00:33:45,106 this is part of a bigger mythology, 618 00:33:45,139 --> 00:33:48,509 one that isn't uniquely ours, but is more global, one that 619 00:33:48,543 --> 00:33:52,313 really comes to us from Africa, and from its inception, 620 00:33:52,346 --> 00:33:56,617 is very much about slavery and from its sort of pivotal turn 621 00:33:56,651 --> 00:34:01,456 it makes in Haiti, becomes a lot about slave rebellion. 622 00:34:05,259 --> 00:34:06,761 Damn Zombies. 623 00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:10,364 These nails cost me $2.49 a box. 624 00:34:10,398 --> 00:34:13,201 It's a good thing I had all this scrap wood though. 625 00:34:13,234 --> 00:34:14,635 Well, that's that. 626 00:34:14,669 --> 00:34:17,638 I wonder if these zombies are going to be the fast ones 627 00:34:17,672 --> 00:34:19,173 or the slow ones. 628 00:34:19,207 --> 00:34:21,943 I hope they're the slow ones because I'm an old man. 629 00:34:21,976 --> 00:34:22,977 Oh, there's one now. 630 00:34:23,010 --> 00:34:25,313 Oh great, they're the fast zombies. 631 00:34:25,346 --> 00:34:26,547 That's no good for me. 632 00:34:26,581 --> 00:34:28,549 Oh, wait a minute, it's just a jogger. 633 00:34:28,583 --> 00:34:30,017 Whew... 634 00:34:30,051 --> 00:34:33,020 Well, that's good, but that still doesn't answer my question 635 00:34:33,054 --> 00:34:35,223 whether or not the zombies are fast ones. 636 00:34:35,256 --> 00:34:37,525 Oh, I guess they're slow ones. 637 00:34:37,558 --> 00:34:40,628 Well, that's good news for me that they're slow ones, but 638 00:34:40,661 --> 00:34:44,966 wait, if you could just run away from slow zombies with ease, 639 00:34:44,999 --> 00:34:48,536 then why aren't all new zombies old people like me? 640 00:34:48,569 --> 00:34:52,273 In fact, how does a slow zombie outbreak even get out of control 641 00:34:52,306 --> 00:34:53,975 in the first place? 642 00:34:54,008 --> 00:34:56,978 Now I could maybe see a slow zombie outbreak getting out of 643 00:34:57,011 --> 00:35:01,182 control in a densely occupied apartment building, but way out 644 00:35:01,215 --> 00:35:04,652 in the country where there's just so much distance 645 00:35:04,685 --> 00:35:07,355 in between the infected and the living? 646 00:35:07,388 --> 00:35:09,056 Well, not so much. 647 00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:14,295 STEVEN: The slow versus fast debate is one of 648 00:35:14,328 --> 00:35:16,798 my very favorites in zombie worlds. 649 00:35:16,831 --> 00:35:18,032 I'm partial to the slow zombies. 650 00:35:18,065 --> 00:35:19,834 I actually think they're way scarier. 651 00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:21,369 If something's fast and it's running after you, 652 00:35:21,402 --> 00:35:22,637 you just got to run. 653 00:35:22,670 --> 00:35:25,706 If someone is slow and shambling towards you, you wait because 654 00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:27,775 we have this desire that it's still human, right? 655 00:35:27,809 --> 00:35:30,244 Like you think, that looks like my girlfriend, still looks like 656 00:35:30,278 --> 00:35:32,413 my girlfriend, she's stumbling a little bit, but maybe 657 00:35:32,446 --> 00:35:34,415 it's my girlfriend with a broken ankle, you don't know, 658 00:35:34,448 --> 00:35:36,684 and you let her get just a little bit too close. 659 00:35:36,717 --> 00:35:38,219 All you've got to do is walk slightly faster than her, 660 00:35:38,252 --> 00:35:39,921 but you don't. 661 00:35:39,954 --> 00:35:42,390 MAX: The slow zombie gives me time to think about 662 00:35:42,423 --> 00:35:43,925 how I'm going to die. 663 00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:46,561 It's the difference between getting shot and getting cancer. 664 00:35:46,594 --> 00:35:49,664 It's about considering all those horrific possibilities. 665 00:35:50,665 --> 00:35:53,434 SIMON: The whole fast zombie thing just misses the point. 666 00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:55,436 By removing any aggression from them, by stopping them from 667 00:35:55,469 --> 00:35:58,873 being almost like screechy and raptors running at you, 668 00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:03,377 they've become something you can project depth onto. 669 00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:05,179 That's what's so great about slow zombies is that 670 00:36:05,213 --> 00:36:07,615 you're given time to get to know them 671 00:36:07,648 --> 00:36:10,518 before you shoot them in the head. 672 00:36:10,551 --> 00:36:14,088 I do have a whole new level of respect for horror film actors, 673 00:36:14,121 --> 00:36:18,426 but especially zombie horror film actors because when they're 674 00:36:18,459 --> 00:36:22,096 slow, you really have to sell the fear, you know what I mean? 675 00:36:22,129 --> 00:36:26,467 You have to sort of like create scenarios in which you don't get 676 00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:30,004 away from these people that are moving at the pace of a snail. 677 00:36:30,037 --> 00:36:31,739 Somebody once asked me, would you write a zombie 678 00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:33,040 survival guide for fast zombies? 679 00:36:33,074 --> 00:36:34,375 I'm like, yeah, it would be a pamphlet that we'd call 680 00:36:34,408 --> 00:36:35,676 "Kiss your ass goodbye." 681 00:36:35,710 --> 00:36:37,678 (laughter) 682 00:36:37,712 --> 00:36:42,083 I would argue that potentially "Shaun of the Dead" had a lot 683 00:36:42,116 --> 00:36:47,221 of influence in kind of killing the slow zombie in movies. 684 00:36:47,255 --> 00:36:50,491 If you have two bumbling idiots who can throw records at zombies 685 00:36:50,524 --> 00:36:53,628 and sort of accidentally kill them, it sort of causes problems 686 00:36:53,661 --> 00:36:56,030 in terms of trying to make the slow zombie really scary. 687 00:36:56,063 --> 00:36:57,798 TOM: This makes me think of when I directed 688 00:36:57,832 --> 00:37:00,568 "Night of the Living Dead," we hired a movement instructor 689 00:37:00,601 --> 00:37:02,870 because my idea was if you're a zombie, 690 00:37:02,904 --> 00:37:06,207 then you leave your body. 691 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:09,043 It's like if your body is hung on a fence and something comes 692 00:37:09,076 --> 00:37:12,747 and takes over the body, that's never moved a human body before 693 00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:16,717 and tries to move and walk, but it was laughable. 694 00:37:16,751 --> 00:37:21,422 People were doing all kinds of stupid weird shit with it. 695 00:37:21,455 --> 00:37:24,625 Just walk slow, okay, just walk slow. 696 00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:26,928 Because as you know, George Romero believes in slow zombies. 697 00:37:26,961 --> 00:37:29,597 He sells bumper stickers that say, "Fast Zombies Suck." 698 00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:34,969 My basic objection to fast zombies is that it's impossible! 699 00:37:35,002 --> 00:37:36,871 If they're dead, if they're dead. 700 00:37:36,904 --> 00:37:38,539 SIMON: You know, there's an argument that Bill Hingmen, 701 00:37:38,572 --> 00:37:40,675 who played the very first zombie in "Night of the Living Dead," 702 00:37:40,708 --> 00:37:42,710 he was pretty spritely as a zombie. 703 00:37:42,743 --> 00:37:45,413 He wasn't moving particularly slowly. 704 00:37:45,446 --> 00:37:48,816 The beginning of zombie evolution started with 705 00:37:48,849 --> 00:37:51,919 quite a quick-footed zombie to be honest. 706 00:37:51,953 --> 00:37:53,988 GEORGE: When we were making "Night of the Living Dead," 707 00:37:54,021 --> 00:37:57,692 we had no sense of rules. 708 00:37:57,725 --> 00:38:02,396 It wasn't until I finally agreed to do another one that I said, 709 00:38:02,430 --> 00:38:06,334 well wait, we've got to have a little process going in. 710 00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:07,835 We have to have something. 711 00:38:09,036 --> 00:38:13,240 I know that Bill moves pretty quickly so I think I've sort of 712 00:38:13,274 --> 00:38:17,011 violated my own rules there, but I wasn't even... 713 00:38:17,044 --> 00:38:18,579 I didn't even have rules then. 714 00:38:18,612 --> 00:38:23,150 Zombie purists sometimes can get quite adamant 715 00:38:23,184 --> 00:38:24,885 about their feelings. 716 00:38:24,919 --> 00:38:31,292 I had a woman one time chastise me for making my living 717 00:38:31,325 --> 00:38:37,598 in horror and not knowing that zombies don't eat brains. 718 00:38:37,631 --> 00:38:40,534 These movies come out and we get these like really particular 719 00:38:40,568 --> 00:38:44,238 zombie enthusiasts that will rip them apart on a message board. 720 00:38:44,271 --> 00:38:47,808 I'm like, come on guys, it's a porno. 721 00:38:47,842 --> 00:38:50,978 S.G.: The zombie purists want their zombies to be slow and 722 00:38:51,012 --> 00:38:54,248 shambling and I like to say that they get kind of Dr. Seuss 723 00:38:54,281 --> 00:38:56,217 "Green Eggs and Ham" about their zombies... 724 00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,185 They do not like them when they run, they do not like them 725 00:38:58,219 --> 00:39:00,087 when they're fun, they do not like them with a heart, 726 00:39:00,121 --> 00:39:01,455 they do not like them to be smart. 727 00:39:01,489 --> 00:39:04,892 They just want them to be slow and shambling and mindless. 728 00:39:04,925 --> 00:39:07,762 Fast zombies, slow zombies, if zombies want to shoot lasers 729 00:39:07,795 --> 00:39:09,663 out of their eyes and it works in the story, 730 00:39:09,697 --> 00:39:10,898 I think that's fantastic. 731 00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:12,433 If you're a dead guy and you're walking around, maybe you're 732 00:39:12,466 --> 00:39:14,769 eating people, maybe you're not eating people, I don't know. 733 00:39:14,802 --> 00:39:17,371 If you're a dead guy walking around, you're a zombie. 734 00:39:17,405 --> 00:39:20,408 For me, "28 Days Later" was the first time I saw them 735 00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:23,511 sped up and I just thought that was genius. 736 00:39:23,544 --> 00:39:25,146 How did we not think of this sooner? 737 00:39:25,179 --> 00:39:28,449 Zombies have been around forever and no one has ever thought 738 00:39:28,482 --> 00:39:29,850 to just make them sprint. 739 00:39:29,884 --> 00:39:31,519 I mean, why wouldn't they? 740 00:39:31,552 --> 00:39:34,155 If they want the food, they just fucking go get it. 741 00:39:34,188 --> 00:39:36,090 So that was truly terrifying. 742 00:39:36,123 --> 00:39:39,193 I don't think there was anything charming about those zombies. 743 00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:41,929 Fuck fast zombies. 744 00:39:41,962 --> 00:39:44,465 I fucking hate fast zombies. 745 00:39:44,498 --> 00:39:45,499 I hate them. 746 00:39:45,533 --> 00:39:48,502 Now "28 Days Later" -- not a zombie movie. 747 00:39:48,536 --> 00:39:53,707 Infection, those people were infected, they aren't dead, 748 00:39:53,741 --> 00:39:56,177 so not a zombie movie, just for the record. 749 00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:58,479 Slow zombies don't cut it for us often anymore. 750 00:39:58,512 --> 00:40:00,781 Our fears are more intense. 751 00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:02,283 The world is faster. 752 00:40:02,316 --> 00:40:03,884 Our technology is faster. 753 00:40:03,918 --> 00:40:07,221 We need a faster zombie and I think a great example of it 754 00:40:07,254 --> 00:40:09,190 is bringing us all the way up to the present day 755 00:40:09,223 --> 00:40:11,992 and the "World War Z" film adaptation, where you see 756 00:40:12,026 --> 00:40:18,232 a virtual tsunami of zombie bodies just rushing mindlessly, 757 00:40:18,265 --> 00:40:20,067 they're not even human anymore, 758 00:40:20,101 --> 00:40:22,436 they're not even distinguishable as individuals. 759 00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:27,441 They're just a mass of flesh just washing over us. 760 00:40:27,475 --> 00:40:29,243 So I was asked to be a scientific consultant 761 00:40:29,276 --> 00:40:30,945 on "World War Z." 762 00:40:30,978 --> 00:40:34,248 I had to remit to think about zombies as if 763 00:40:34,281 --> 00:40:35,950 they were the product of natural selection. 764 00:40:35,983 --> 00:40:39,120 If natural selection is at play, we should expect to see very, 765 00:40:39,153 --> 00:40:40,488 very different things. 766 00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:42,723 We should expect to see cooperative behavior 767 00:40:42,756 --> 00:40:44,825 among zombies. 768 00:40:44,859 --> 00:40:47,628 So before they get bitten, they're individual humans 769 00:40:47,661 --> 00:40:50,564 with individual interests and different genetic relatedness, 770 00:40:50,598 --> 00:40:52,099 so they should be selfish. 771 00:40:52,133 --> 00:40:55,569 Once they're bitten, it doesn't matter which zombie bites 772 00:40:55,603 --> 00:40:59,039 the next human, so long as the virus gets there. 773 00:40:59,073 --> 00:41:02,543 We see many examples in nature of groups of organisms 774 00:41:02,576 --> 00:41:07,348 moving more quickly when the individual desire is subjugated 775 00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:09,884 to the success of the group. 776 00:41:14,922 --> 00:41:19,260 You know, the milestone in zombie culture is the failure 777 00:41:19,293 --> 00:41:21,762 of the producer of "Night of the Living Dead" 778 00:41:21,795 --> 00:41:25,332 to renew the copyright because what that did is it put 779 00:41:25,366 --> 00:41:28,602 the picture in public domain and meant that it was going to play 780 00:41:28,636 --> 00:41:34,642 on every cable TV station and every midnight movie possible. 781 00:41:34,675 --> 00:41:38,779 Anybody who had a videotape of that film could put it on 782 00:41:38,812 --> 00:41:41,882 their local television station and play it on Halloween 783 00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:45,152 or at midnight, and they did, and so many other imitators 784 00:41:45,186 --> 00:41:48,422 came along and parody filmmakers came along. 785 00:41:48,455 --> 00:41:50,591 Kill the brain, kill the brain. 786 00:41:50,624 --> 00:41:51,692 Lock and load. 787 00:41:55,563 --> 00:41:57,998 And even great filmmakers like David Cronenberg 788 00:41:58,032 --> 00:42:00,134 owe an enormous debt to Romero, 789 00:42:00,167 --> 00:42:02,770 an enormous debt to the "Night of the Living Dead." 790 00:42:02,803 --> 00:42:06,473 Zombies are definitely part of mainstream culture now. 791 00:42:06,507 --> 00:42:08,309 I mean, there can hardly be anybody left, 792 00:42:08,342 --> 00:42:10,744 at least in the English speaking world, 793 00:42:10,778 --> 00:42:14,148 who hasn't seen a zombie movie by now. 794 00:42:14,181 --> 00:42:18,052 I think the advent of video games and third-person 795 00:42:18,085 --> 00:42:21,088 shoot 'em up games did more for the zombie genre 796 00:42:21,121 --> 00:42:23,490 than a couple movies even. 797 00:42:23,524 --> 00:42:26,260 I mean, I bought a Sega just so I could have one of those 798 00:42:26,293 --> 00:42:29,897 shitty orange guns and I could shoot at zombies. 799 00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:31,632 Zombies have even infected video games that are not 800 00:42:31,665 --> 00:42:32,933 zombie video games. 801 00:42:32,967 --> 00:42:35,436 The "Call of Duty" franchise is probably the most famous 802 00:42:35,469 --> 00:42:38,072 which has banked through its last few iterations 803 00:42:38,105 --> 00:42:40,941 on zombie mode as being one of its big draws. 804 00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:43,477 When zombies are so popular that they're going to shoehorn 805 00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:47,214 zombies into non-zombie games, we know that we've reached 806 00:42:47,248 --> 00:42:51,385 a point of saturation in our culture, triumph of the zombies. 807 00:42:51,418 --> 00:42:55,155 GEORGE: You could put on "Sesame Street," a zombie, 808 00:42:55,189 --> 00:42:57,524 and kids would know what it was. 809 00:42:57,558 --> 00:43:00,527 Kids would know what it was, a zombie, oh yeah. 810 00:43:00,561 --> 00:43:04,398 Zombies don't eat meat because they can't have meat. 811 00:43:04,431 --> 00:43:06,367 They only eat your brains. 812 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,102 When they eat your brains, 813 00:43:08,135 --> 00:43:13,907 the human brains come in their brains. 814 00:43:13,941 --> 00:43:16,210 STEVEN: So in the last probably two and a half, three years, 815 00:43:16,243 --> 00:43:19,980 they've gone from an underground rabid cult following -- 816 00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:22,516 people love them -- to this huge pop culture 817 00:43:22,549 --> 00:43:23,584 mainstream following. 818 00:43:23,617 --> 00:43:25,119 You just got to put the word zombie on something 819 00:43:25,152 --> 00:43:26,587 and it sells. 820 00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:28,856 What if say technically you were not alive, 821 00:43:28,889 --> 00:43:31,258 like maybe you were undead? 822 00:43:31,292 --> 00:43:32,393 Like a zombie? 823 00:43:32,426 --> 00:43:34,795 Whoa, let's not go putting labels on people. 824 00:43:37,398 --> 00:43:38,732 I'm a zombie. 825 00:43:38,766 --> 00:43:40,367 I'm here to tell you how to best prepare 826 00:43:40,401 --> 00:43:42,169 for the zombie apocalypse. 827 00:43:42,202 --> 00:43:44,438 Don't be afraid to bash our heads in. 828 00:43:44,471 --> 00:43:49,677 We could easily be taken out with a well-thrown rock... 829 00:43:49,710 --> 00:43:52,546 or a two-by-four. 830 00:43:52,579 --> 00:43:54,848 You want to know the best way to survive the apocalypse? 831 00:43:54,882 --> 00:43:58,085 Get the right health insurance. 832 00:43:58,118 --> 00:44:00,921 This interview with a zombie brought to you by the good folks 833 00:44:00,954 --> 00:44:03,324 at Rocky Mountain Health Plans. 834 00:44:03,357 --> 00:44:06,260 You see them in commercials now, you see them in movie 835 00:44:06,293 --> 00:44:09,330 theatre ads, I mean, zombies are everywhere, man. 836 00:44:09,363 --> 00:44:12,099 You want to talk about when is the zombie apocalypse coming? 837 00:44:12,132 --> 00:44:13,567 It's here. 838 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,636 No! It's Zombie-Con weekend! 839 00:44:15,669 --> 00:44:17,438 (screaming) 840 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,475 There's got to be more of us out there. 841 00:44:25,012 --> 00:44:27,348 No! No! 842 00:44:31,919 --> 00:44:34,822 The number one show on cable that beat our show, 843 00:44:34,855 --> 00:44:38,225 "Burn Notice," which was the number one show on cable, 844 00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:39,893 is zombies. 845 00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:53,340 How we got to be so popular is blind luck. 846 00:44:53,374 --> 00:44:55,309 It's as simple as that. 847 00:44:55,342 --> 00:45:00,114 Somehow we managed to tap in on some sort of public zeitgeist 848 00:45:00,147 --> 00:45:05,853 that wanted this sort of product at that sort of time. 849 00:45:05,886 --> 00:45:09,523 I'll meet somebody on the street and a guy will come up and say, 850 00:45:09,556 --> 00:45:12,259 oh my God, I love "The Walking Dead," stay right here, 851 00:45:12,292 --> 00:45:15,529 and he'll run over and he'll bring his wife over and his wife 852 00:45:15,562 --> 00:45:19,233 will be more excited about "The Walking Dead" than he is! 853 00:45:19,266 --> 00:45:20,868 I've always been uncomfortable with the success of 854 00:45:20,901 --> 00:45:22,302 "The Walking Dead." 855 00:45:22,336 --> 00:45:25,706 When it debuted as a comic, it was like, oh wait, this thing is 856 00:45:25,739 --> 00:45:28,675 way more popular than it should be and it just kept getting more 857 00:45:28,709 --> 00:45:31,378 and more popular and then when the show happened, I honestly 858 00:45:31,412 --> 00:45:33,947 didn't think the show was going to be successful at all. 859 00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:35,816 I was hoping and praying that the show would be 860 00:45:35,849 --> 00:45:38,452 just successful enough to continue. 861 00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:41,221 It honestly makes no sense to me whatsoever. 862 00:45:41,255 --> 00:45:44,291 I don't know how this show is as popular as it is. 863 00:45:45,893 --> 00:45:49,396 They're joining the ranks of the blockbuster pop culture 864 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:52,766 icons, like superheroes and action heroes. 865 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,935 S.G.: Werewolves are kind of like the jocks of monsters. 866 00:45:54,968 --> 00:45:57,204 They're full of testosterone and sprouting hair all over 867 00:45:57,237 --> 00:46:01,175 the place and full of rage and screaming and running around. 868 00:46:01,208 --> 00:46:04,111 Vampires are kind of like the fraternity boys. 869 00:46:04,144 --> 00:46:07,548 They're always sort of suave and slick and trying to convince you 870 00:46:07,581 --> 00:46:11,051 to get into bed with them so they can drink your blood, 871 00:46:11,084 --> 00:46:13,220 and zombies are kind of like the nerds and the geeks, 872 00:46:13,253 --> 00:46:15,756 you know, they don't get the girls, 873 00:46:15,789 --> 00:46:17,891 but they don't have any ulterior motives. 874 00:46:17,925 --> 00:46:19,226 They wear their emotions on their sleeves. 875 00:46:19,259 --> 00:46:21,228 They say, I am a zombie and I want to eat your brains. 876 00:46:21,261 --> 00:46:24,064 It's a monster that's completely honest. 877 00:46:24,097 --> 00:46:29,670 A vampire seduces, a zombie feeds, a zombie goes after you, 878 00:46:29,703 --> 00:46:31,638 and some people, they're turned on by that. 879 00:46:31,672 --> 00:46:33,574 They're turned on by relentless desire. 880 00:46:33,607 --> 00:46:35,943 They want to be desired like nothing else. 881 00:46:35,976 --> 00:46:39,646 You know, nobody wants to be raped in real life but a lot of 882 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,916 people have rape fantasies and sex with the zombie 883 00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:44,551 is probably the ultimate rape. 884 00:46:47,287 --> 00:46:49,456 Shit, another walker. 885 00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:51,925 Don't worry, I got this one. 886 00:46:51,959 --> 00:46:55,095 No Glenn, put your dick away. 887 00:46:55,128 --> 00:46:58,465 It is tough to make a zombie porn because you kind of 888 00:46:58,499 --> 00:47:04,404 have to violate every law of porn and then you're also, 889 00:47:04,438 --> 00:47:07,608 at the same time, violating all these zombie laws. 890 00:47:09,309 --> 00:47:10,978 It's been some day, hasn't it, son? 891 00:47:11,011 --> 00:47:12,246 Yeah. 892 00:47:12,279 --> 00:47:15,749 You got lost and then united, had a threesome with your mom 893 00:47:15,782 --> 00:47:17,784 and my best friend. 894 00:47:17,818 --> 00:47:22,356 Now Carl, I've got to know, do you have it in you to go over 895 00:47:22,389 --> 00:47:26,627 there and fuck that girl, and kill her with your cum? 896 00:47:28,362 --> 00:47:30,230 JOANNA: "Walking Dead" definitely sold the most 897 00:47:30,264 --> 00:47:33,534 out of probably any other porno we've ever made. 898 00:47:35,802 --> 00:47:39,673 People love playing the role and I think it is also an element 899 00:47:39,706 --> 00:47:43,610 of domesticating it, making it safer, making it fun. 900 00:47:43,644 --> 00:47:44,811 Zombie culture has really blossomed. 901 00:47:44,845 --> 00:47:47,848 You have zombie walks or zombie crawls, if you prefer, 902 00:47:47,881 --> 00:47:51,585 zombie runs, zombie fashion shows, zombie beauty shows, 903 00:47:51,618 --> 00:47:53,787 zombie weddings, zombie engagements, 904 00:47:53,820 --> 00:47:57,524 zombie birthday parties, zombie car washes. 905 00:47:57,558 --> 00:48:00,193 I would never have let a zombie wash my car. 906 00:48:00,227 --> 00:48:01,929 (laughter) 907 00:48:04,064 --> 00:48:06,233 Are you ready to meet your maker? 908 00:48:06,266 --> 00:48:07,901 You're not gonna because you're gonna come back 909 00:48:07,935 --> 00:48:10,337 to be a flesh eating beast! 910 00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:12,839 Are you ready? 911 00:48:12,873 --> 00:48:15,242 Get ready to tread or die today! 912 00:48:15,275 --> 00:48:21,848 Runners, take your mark, set, banzai! 913 00:48:21,882 --> 00:48:23,517 Suckers! 914 00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:33,594 ♪ 915 00:48:33,594 --> 00:48:40,867 ♪ 916 00:48:40,901 --> 00:48:43,170 I made it! I made it! I made it! I made it! 917 00:48:50,944 --> 00:48:56,550 I was coming to the first annual Seattle Zombie-Con and a couple 918 00:48:56,583 --> 00:48:58,518 approached me who were going to the convention. 919 00:48:58,552 --> 00:49:06,259 They wanted to be married by me as zombies, and I'm like, 920 00:49:06,293 --> 00:49:10,197 "But you want this to count, right?" 921 00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:12,633 And I thought, you know, their poor family. 922 00:49:12,666 --> 00:49:15,268 This is a sacred thing, getting married, you know? 923 00:49:15,302 --> 00:49:18,271 And they're doing this as zombies and getting the idiot 924 00:49:18,305 --> 00:49:23,844 guy who played Ash to marry them but then you see their family! 925 00:49:23,877 --> 00:49:26,647 Who gives this zombie woman to be married to 926 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,316 this lucky zombie man? 927 00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:30,584 (growling) 928 00:49:30,617 --> 00:49:35,188 Alright, dad, go take a nap. 929 00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:38,291 The father couldn't sit down because he came as a guy who had 930 00:49:38,325 --> 00:49:44,164 a spike that had impaled him and all the family came as zombies. 931 00:49:44,197 --> 00:49:47,234 Zombies don't think about what they're doing, 932 00:49:47,267 --> 00:49:50,404 they just do it. 933 00:49:50,437 --> 00:49:52,172 Am I right, zombies? 934 00:49:52,205 --> 00:49:53,840 (cheering) 935 00:49:53,874 --> 00:49:55,976 Come on, you freaks! 936 00:49:56,009 --> 00:49:57,844 Now shut up, I'm still talking. 937 00:49:57,878 --> 00:50:00,847 Anybody needs zombies married, I guess I'm your go-to guy, 938 00:50:00,881 --> 00:50:03,617 but I've only performed one because they're going to get 939 00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:07,654 really expensive now because it's just too weird. 940 00:50:09,856 --> 00:50:13,326 Zombie fans, I think, are, I don't know, 941 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,830 I can't identify who zombie fans are. 942 00:50:16,863 --> 00:50:18,532 Who are zombie fans? 943 00:50:18,565 --> 00:50:20,634 Are they fans of the genre? 944 00:50:20,667 --> 00:50:22,436 Are they fans of horror movies? 945 00:50:22,469 --> 00:50:25,906 All these people that come out for zombie walks, what is it? 946 00:50:25,939 --> 00:50:30,811 What is it that appeals to zombie fans? 947 00:50:30,844 --> 00:50:34,147 I think that anyone that made "Dawn of the Dead" would have to 948 00:50:34,181 --> 00:50:37,984 understand what zombie culture is about. 949 00:50:38,018 --> 00:50:40,754 There is so much in that movie that's just about humans 950 00:50:40,787 --> 00:50:42,556 and human nature. 951 00:50:42,589 --> 00:50:47,861 You have to know, like, you have to see that. 952 00:50:47,894 --> 00:50:48,495 I don't know. 953 00:50:48,528 --> 00:50:50,063 That doesn't make sense. 954 00:50:50,097 --> 00:50:51,898 Don't put that in there. 955 00:50:51,932 --> 00:50:54,067 (laughter) 956 00:50:54,101 --> 00:50:57,270 TOM: I've seen a crowd of people go into the middle of a square 957 00:50:57,304 --> 00:51:01,007 as zombies and then all of a sudden, "Thriller" will blast 958 00:51:01,041 --> 00:51:02,342 and they all do the "Thriller" dance, 959 00:51:02,375 --> 00:51:07,080 that I would like to participate in, but not the zombie walk. 960 00:51:07,114 --> 00:51:08,782 I don't get it, I'm sorry. 961 00:51:08,815 --> 00:51:11,084 Well done to you people dressed as zombies. 962 00:51:11,118 --> 00:51:13,353 Good for you. 963 00:51:13,386 --> 00:51:14,488 I don't get it. 964 00:51:14,521 --> 00:51:17,324 That would be like me dressing up as someone with Ebola. 965 00:51:17,357 --> 00:51:19,593 (laughter) 966 00:51:19,626 --> 00:51:20,861 It'd be like, come on. 967 00:51:20,894 --> 00:51:23,563 There's going to be 16,000 people in Denver all walking, 968 00:51:23,597 --> 00:51:25,832 pretending that they have testicular cancer, come on! 969 00:51:25,866 --> 00:51:27,200 (laughter) 970 00:51:27,234 --> 00:51:29,503 WOMAN: It's nothing new that zombies walk, 971 00:51:29,536 --> 00:51:30,737 that's just what they do. 972 00:51:30,771 --> 00:51:33,507 And I never say that anyone ever invented the zombie walk 973 00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:38,411 because that's their kind of monster character. 974 00:51:38,445 --> 00:51:40,747 I think maybe the very first time I ever dressed up as 975 00:51:40,781 --> 00:51:44,751 a zombie was for the first annual Denver Zombie Crawl. 976 00:51:44,785 --> 00:51:47,687 There's probably like 15 or 20 people, and I was like, 977 00:51:47,721 --> 00:51:50,824 God, this is so cool! What a great idea. 978 00:51:50,857 --> 00:51:53,593 We're all going to dress like zombies and pound on the windows 979 00:51:53,627 --> 00:51:56,062 while people are eating dinner and this is the coolest thing 980 00:51:56,096 --> 00:51:58,965 ever, and then the next year, it was like, oh my God, 981 00:51:58,999 --> 00:52:01,902 there's like 50, 75 people -- cool! 982 00:52:01,935 --> 00:52:05,205 And then the next year, it was hundreds and I think 983 00:52:05,238 --> 00:52:08,775 last year was 15 or 17,000 people -- 984 00:52:08,809 --> 00:52:12,145 families, professionals, children. 985 00:52:12,179 --> 00:52:14,748 It's amazing. 986 00:52:14,781 --> 00:52:17,651 It's a punk thing, it's almost punk, right? 987 00:52:17,684 --> 00:52:20,320 Making a statement, saying, I don't want to be part of 988 00:52:20,353 --> 00:52:22,556 this life, I'll be a part of that life, 989 00:52:22,589 --> 00:52:24,524 but I don't want to be a part of this life. 990 00:52:24,558 --> 00:52:27,260 I think that's really what it is. 991 00:52:27,294 --> 00:52:29,496 It's frustration, man. 992 00:52:29,529 --> 00:52:30,897 SARAH: I mean, it's all in good fun. 993 00:52:30,931 --> 00:52:33,533 It's play, but I feel like underneath that is a little bit 994 00:52:33,567 --> 00:52:36,603 of danger and there's a message that's being sent that says, 995 00:52:36,636 --> 00:52:40,674 you know, if we wanted to, we have the capacity to organize. 996 00:52:40,707 --> 00:52:44,144 Here we just got 10,000 zombies out in this public square 997 00:52:44,177 --> 00:52:47,447 so I felt like it's a kind of tacit message to our government. 998 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,683 DR. BLOCK: If you're into zombies, the zombie walk 999 00:52:49,716 --> 00:52:51,117 is like date night. 1000 00:52:51,151 --> 00:52:53,286 If you're dressed as a zombie, sometimes that helps, 1001 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,456 especially if you're a little looks challenged. 1002 00:52:56,489 --> 00:52:59,359 It's very liberating to be purposefully ugly. 1003 00:52:59,392 --> 00:53:01,094 You can let your Id out. 1004 00:53:01,127 --> 00:53:03,964 WOMAN: I do think corpses are a little bit attractive. 1005 00:53:03,997 --> 00:53:05,632 I was sitting next to one earlier 1006 00:53:05,665 --> 00:53:08,101 and I'm going to tell you, he was pretty handsome. 1007 00:53:08,134 --> 00:53:09,302 I liked holding his hand. 1008 00:53:09,336 --> 00:53:12,973 He was big, kind of buff, even though he was bony. 1009 00:53:13,006 --> 00:53:15,575 I think people are thinking too hard these days about, 1010 00:53:15,609 --> 00:53:17,711 "Whoa, what's this zombie phenomenon?" 1011 00:53:17,744 --> 00:53:20,914 People love to dress up, they love to be other characters, 1012 00:53:20,947 --> 00:53:22,949 they love to escape from themselves. 1013 00:53:22,983 --> 00:53:26,086 The costumes are amazing, they're cinematic, 1014 00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:27,254 there's incredible gore. 1015 00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:29,689 There's incredible creativity. 1016 00:53:29,723 --> 00:53:33,460 Where else can you see a Lego zombie? 1017 00:53:33,493 --> 00:53:35,629 I don't know why people come out and do it. 1018 00:53:35,662 --> 00:53:39,866 I have to pay union wages to get them to come. 1019 00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:44,838 (laughter and applause) 1020 00:53:44,871 --> 00:53:46,539 I think it's about getting connected again. 1021 00:53:46,573 --> 00:53:48,475 It's so interesting to me, like, I see these zombie walks 1022 00:53:48,508 --> 00:53:51,778 and nobody is tweeting or emailing or texting. 1023 00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:53,580 They're actually talking to each other and I know that 1024 00:53:53,613 --> 00:53:55,382 sounds a little too peace and love and all that, 1025 00:53:55,415 --> 00:53:57,784 but it actually reminds me -- I used to follow Grateful Dead 1026 00:53:57,817 --> 00:54:00,320 around when I was in college and it reminds me the most 1027 00:54:00,353 --> 00:54:01,588 of a Grateful Dead show. 1028 00:54:01,621 --> 00:54:03,623 Not in the way that people are checked out, but in the way that 1029 00:54:03,657 --> 00:54:05,158 people are actually nice to each other. 1030 00:54:05,191 --> 00:54:06,660 That doesn't happen very often. 1031 00:54:06,693 --> 00:54:09,229 It doesn't happen at a ballgame, but it happens when people 1032 00:54:09,262 --> 00:54:12,165 dress up like the walking dead and walk down the street. 1033 00:54:13,433 --> 00:54:16,036 KYLE: Sometimes it's more fun to watch the audience 1034 00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:19,072 than the participants because whether they know it or not, 1035 00:54:19,105 --> 00:54:21,942 the audience just became participants. 1036 00:54:21,975 --> 00:54:24,344 The great thing about the zombie is, you get bit by a zombie, 1037 00:54:24,377 --> 00:54:27,013 then you're one of them and you're part of this collective, 1038 00:54:27,047 --> 00:54:28,448 you're part of this hoard. 1039 00:54:28,481 --> 00:54:31,318 Well, zombie fandom works the same way. 1040 00:54:31,351 --> 00:54:32,953 I think that's kind of the cool thing that's coming 1041 00:54:32,986 --> 00:54:34,154 from all of this. 1042 00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:38,158 Maybe people are getting a skinned knee when they're doing 1043 00:54:38,191 --> 00:54:40,860 the zombie obstacle course, but they're having fun, 1044 00:54:40,894 --> 00:54:43,663 they're having a good time, so to a very small degree, 1045 00:54:43,697 --> 00:54:45,799 they're improving people's lives. 1046 00:54:45,832 --> 00:54:47,801 (laughing) 1047 00:55:05,819 --> 00:55:08,321 Bravo 2 to Bravo 1, switch has been pulled. 1048 00:55:08,355 --> 00:55:10,824 Any change in situation upstairs? 1049 00:55:10,857 --> 00:55:13,693 That is a negative. 1050 00:55:13,727 --> 00:55:15,996 Carry on your search, over. 1051 00:55:16,029 --> 00:55:20,567 Keep looking down there, gentlemen. 1052 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,268 (gunshot) 1053 00:55:22,302 --> 00:55:24,170 Bravo 2 to Bravo 1... 1054 00:55:24,204 --> 00:55:26,106 (screaming) 1055 00:55:29,376 --> 00:55:31,578 Bravo 2 to Bravo 1, come in, over. 1056 00:55:31,611 --> 00:55:34,681 Bravo 1 to Bravo 2, get your ass up here now! 1057 00:55:34,714 --> 00:55:37,851 Move! Let's go! 1058 00:55:37,884 --> 00:55:40,754 Stay low, watch your heads. 1059 00:55:40,787 --> 00:55:43,690 Single file up the stairs, gentleman. 1060 00:55:43,723 --> 00:55:45,558 Guys, I need two eyes on this doorway behind me. 1061 00:55:45,592 --> 00:55:47,727 Make sure it's clear. 1062 00:55:47,761 --> 00:55:49,596 Holy shit! 1063 00:55:49,629 --> 00:55:51,931 What the fuck is that? 1064 00:55:51,965 --> 00:55:54,801 The armor that that thing has got built into it 1065 00:55:54,834 --> 00:55:56,336 will take a 50 caliber. 1066 00:55:56,369 --> 00:55:59,305 Our shotguns are gonna do dick and squat. 1067 00:55:59,339 --> 00:56:03,610 Anything happens, you go there as fast as you can. 1068 00:56:03,643 --> 00:56:05,478 No dicking around, yeah? 1069 00:56:05,512 --> 00:56:14,487 ♪ 1070 00:56:14,521 --> 00:56:16,790 Move! 1071 00:56:16,823 --> 00:56:20,994 (screaming) 1072 00:56:21,027 --> 00:56:23,530 This is an event where we provide a total immersive 1073 00:56:23,563 --> 00:56:24,864 zombie experience. 1074 00:56:24,898 --> 00:56:26,266 From the minute they arrive at the event, 1075 00:56:26,299 --> 00:56:29,035 they are thrown into basically a narrative storyline. 1076 00:56:29,069 --> 00:56:32,172 Everyone's got an idea of how they would handle 1077 00:56:32,205 --> 00:56:33,573 a zombie apocalypse. 1078 00:56:33,606 --> 00:56:35,408 We're giving people the opportunity to try that out. 1079 00:56:35,442 --> 00:56:36,976 (screaming) 1080 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,850 MAX: "The Zombie Survival Guide" came about during the Y2K scare 1081 00:56:43,883 --> 00:56:45,085 of the late '90s. 1082 00:56:45,118 --> 00:56:47,787 That was a time when people were starting to prepare for this 1083 00:56:47,821 --> 00:56:52,826 sort of nebulous apocalypse that they didn't really understand. 1084 00:56:52,859 --> 00:56:55,862 America specifically had been experiencing the largest 1085 00:56:55,895 --> 00:56:59,132 post-war boom in its history and times were good, but there 1086 00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:03,703 was this feeling that times were about to change and all these 1087 00:57:03,736 --> 00:57:07,407 survival guides were coming out and I noticed that none of them 1088 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,909 were addressing my fears. 1089 00:57:09,943 --> 00:57:13,580 Granted, zombies are not real, but that certainly didn't stop 1090 00:57:13,613 --> 00:57:15,782 anybody else from publishing survival guides about all 1091 00:57:15,815 --> 00:57:18,118 the other things that were going to happen that were not real. 1092 00:57:18,151 --> 00:57:21,154 Zombie movies are essentially disaster movies and I think 1093 00:57:21,187 --> 00:57:25,125 there has been a sense from 9/11 on, that the system is breaking 1094 00:57:25,158 --> 00:57:28,795 down, and we want to know what the end game is psychologically. 1095 00:57:28,828 --> 00:57:31,297 We want to know what is all this leading to and the problem is 1096 00:57:31,331 --> 00:57:35,368 if you watch a movie where the catalyst for that disaster is 1097 00:57:35,401 --> 00:57:38,371 real, like a real nuclear war or a real plague or a real 1098 00:57:38,404 --> 00:57:41,141 global financial meltdown, you will not sleep that night. 1099 00:57:41,174 --> 00:57:45,211 So if the catalyst is something like zombies, then you can say, 1100 00:57:45,245 --> 00:57:47,614 oh wow, look, neighbors are stabbing each other and there 1101 00:57:47,647 --> 00:57:49,983 are no services and FEMA is incompetent and the president 1102 00:57:50,016 --> 00:57:51,951 is flying over going, "That's peculiar." 1103 00:57:51,985 --> 00:57:53,386 (laughter) 1104 00:57:53,419 --> 00:57:55,655 But it's zombies, so that's totally okay 1105 00:57:55,688 --> 00:57:56,756 and then I'm going to go to sleep. 1106 00:58:03,196 --> 00:58:04,664 What would be your first order of business 1107 00:58:04,697 --> 00:58:06,166 in a zombie apocalypse? 1108 00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:08,868 Find some place that's fortified that I can control what comes in 1109 00:58:08,902 --> 00:58:11,404 and what comes out because if I can stop them 1110 00:58:11,437 --> 00:58:13,840 before they even come in... 1111 00:58:13,873 --> 00:58:16,876 Would it be a boat? What do you think? 1112 00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:18,344 I don't know, never thought about the boat. 1113 00:58:18,378 --> 00:58:19,512 You've got to think about these things. 1114 00:58:19,546 --> 00:58:20,580 Right. 1115 00:58:20,613 --> 00:58:22,882 Everyone has their chance today to be prepared. 1116 00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:24,584 You make the choice now whether you're going to be 1117 00:58:24,617 --> 00:58:26,452 prepped to live or prepped to die. 1118 00:58:26,486 --> 00:58:29,322 Top five things that you would suggest people prioritize 1119 00:58:29,355 --> 00:58:31,090 when they're creating a prep kit. 1120 00:58:31,124 --> 00:58:33,626 Water purification and filtration equipment, 1121 00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:37,530 first aid if you get injured, security hugely important, 1122 00:58:37,564 --> 00:58:43,069 shelter and warmth, and shortwave radio, ham radio. 1123 00:58:43,102 --> 00:58:45,338 What is your motto at Atlas Survival Shelters? 1124 00:58:45,371 --> 00:58:47,440 Better prepared than scared. 1125 00:58:47,473 --> 00:58:51,444 I build long-term survival shelters for private individuals 1126 00:58:51,477 --> 00:58:53,513 so that their family has a chance to survive 1127 00:58:53,546 --> 00:58:55,148 what's coming down the road. 1128 00:58:55,181 --> 00:58:56,616 And is something coming down the road? 1129 00:58:56,649 --> 00:58:58,351 I believe something is coming down the road. 1130 00:58:58,384 --> 00:58:59,719 a lot of people do. 1131 00:58:59,752 --> 00:59:00,954 What would you say if somebody said that 1132 00:59:00,987 --> 00:59:02,589 one of those threats was zombies? 1133 00:59:02,622 --> 00:59:03,690 Say that again. 1134 00:59:03,723 --> 00:59:05,692 What would you say if one of those threats was zombies? 1135 00:59:05,725 --> 00:59:06,759 What if they're fast? 1136 00:59:06,793 --> 00:59:09,229 If they're fast, you could spend upwards of $10,000. 1137 00:59:09,262 --> 00:59:11,464 So you're fucked if they're fast. 1138 00:59:11,497 --> 00:59:15,034 Yeah... you're fucked. 1139 00:59:15,068 --> 00:59:18,004 Your shelters are nuclear, biological, and chemical class 1140 00:59:18,037 --> 00:59:21,174 survival shelters, but are they zombie proof? 1141 00:59:21,207 --> 00:59:22,775 From the television zombies? 1142 00:59:22,809 --> 00:59:23,876 Yeah, are your shelters -- 1143 00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:26,079 From the television zombies, they're zombie proof, 1144 00:59:26,112 --> 00:59:27,347 100 percent. 1145 00:59:30,817 --> 00:59:32,518 There are people who are always asking me, 1146 00:59:32,552 --> 00:59:35,021 do you have a zombie survival plan? 1147 00:59:35,054 --> 00:59:36,522 And I'm like, no, I live in San Francisco. 1148 00:59:36,556 --> 00:59:38,258 I don't even have an earthquake survival kit, 1149 00:59:38,291 --> 00:59:40,159 so I'm not exactly on Darwin's short list 1150 00:59:40,193 --> 00:59:42,028 for making it through this. 1151 00:59:42,061 --> 00:59:45,064 I always think getting to the attic would be a good thing to 1152 00:59:45,098 --> 00:59:49,235 do because they can't climb and you could lift up the ladder 1153 00:59:49,269 --> 00:59:50,603 and they wouldn't know you were up there if you were real quiet 1154 00:59:50,637 --> 00:59:52,205 but you're going to starve to death. 1155 00:59:52,238 --> 00:59:53,473 People make noise. 1156 00:59:53,506 --> 00:59:57,377 I've got a little girl now and I can't keep her quiet anywhere, 1157 00:59:57,410 --> 01:00:00,380 let alone in an attic in a house full of zombies, 1158 01:00:00,413 --> 01:00:03,483 so I think you'd have to get up, I think you'd go north. 1159 01:00:03,516 --> 01:00:08,554 Once I'm sure that civilization is as screwed up as, you know, 1160 01:00:08,588 --> 01:00:11,224 it would be in a zombie apocalypse, 1161 01:00:11,257 --> 01:00:13,126 I would jump off the tallest building. 1162 01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:14,594 I don't want to live like that. 1163 01:00:14,627 --> 01:00:16,296 I don't like being hungry. 1164 01:00:16,329 --> 01:00:17,497 You ever been hungry? 1165 01:00:17,530 --> 01:00:18,731 It's not fun. 1166 01:00:18,765 --> 01:00:21,100 I would hang on as long as I thought I could protect my wife 1167 01:00:21,134 --> 01:00:25,471 and kids, and then once that didn't pan out because 1168 01:00:25,505 --> 01:00:29,575 I'm pretty sure it wouldn't pan out, then I would go. 1169 01:00:29,609 --> 01:00:34,247 I think I would just have to run away and call my children 1170 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,150 and wish them luck. 1171 01:00:37,183 --> 01:00:39,118 Do the best you can where you are. 1172 01:00:39,152 --> 01:00:40,620 I'll do what I can where I am. 1173 01:00:40,653 --> 01:00:41,921 I ain't coming to get you. 1174 01:00:41,954 --> 01:00:44,557 Sorry dude, you had a good life. 1175 01:00:44,590 --> 01:00:48,094 (laughing) 1176 01:00:48,127 --> 01:00:50,463 I love my family more than Bruce Campbell loves his family, 1177 01:00:50,496 --> 01:00:51,531 it's official. 1178 01:00:51,564 --> 01:00:54,067 I'm not a very good shot, I certainly can't shoot 1179 01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:56,235 a crossbow, I'm not a very good fisherman. 1180 01:00:56,269 --> 01:00:58,037 I would be like Homer. 1181 01:00:58,071 --> 01:01:00,506 Homer was blind and wandered around a really dangerous 1182 01:01:00,540 --> 01:01:03,009 landscape with a bunch of futile lords and somehow stayed alive 1183 01:01:03,042 --> 01:01:04,777 by telling people stories and was smart enough never to 1184 01:01:04,811 --> 01:01:05,945 have them end, right? 1185 01:01:05,978 --> 01:01:07,547 Because if then ended, then they'd kill him. 1186 01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:12,452 I would drive here, I would do zombie makeup on myself 1187 01:01:12,485 --> 01:01:16,189 and then just walk around. 1188 01:01:16,222 --> 01:01:20,693 The only problem would be if some dude with a shotgun saw me, 1189 01:01:20,727 --> 01:01:22,061 he'd shoot me in the head and then it would kind of 1190 01:01:22,095 --> 01:01:23,496 defeat the purpose. 1191 01:01:23,529 --> 01:01:25,665 Are zombies on the news coming? Did I miss something? 1192 01:01:25,698 --> 01:01:28,668 Are zombies walking up and down my alley 1193 01:01:28,701 --> 01:01:30,370 and I need to be ready for them? 1194 01:01:30,403 --> 01:01:33,506 I'm sure you've seen examples of people where there is 1195 01:01:33,539 --> 01:01:37,477 no separation and this is something that's real to them. 1196 01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:38,945 Wrestling is real to them! 1197 01:01:38,978 --> 01:01:40,346 What's up Zed Heads? 1198 01:01:40,380 --> 01:01:42,615 The zombie apocalypse is coming whether you like it or not. 1199 01:01:42,648 --> 01:01:45,351 It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, and our homies 1200 01:01:45,385 --> 01:01:47,320 at Zombie Industries are going to help us prepare. 1201 01:01:47,353 --> 01:01:49,355 They've got the bleeding targets that you can use 1202 01:01:49,389 --> 01:01:52,358 to armor yourself up and protect your family. 1203 01:01:52,392 --> 01:01:54,527 Here at Zombie Industries, we're going to teach you firearm 1204 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,797 safety, hand-to-hand combat, and how to put a bullet 1205 01:01:57,830 --> 01:02:01,534 right through a zombie's brain because it's your patriotic duty 1206 01:02:01,567 --> 01:02:04,237 to prepare yourself for the zombie hoards. 1207 01:02:04,270 --> 01:02:07,707 It's the end of the world and I feel fine. 1208 01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:09,642 We're going to train you up solid. 1209 01:02:09,675 --> 01:02:11,310 Ladies, show them what you got! 1210 01:02:11,344 --> 01:02:14,847 (yelling) 1211 01:02:14,881 --> 01:02:17,150 We're coming for you, zombies! 1212 01:02:22,622 --> 01:02:25,425 We understand that it's not a matter of if the zombies come, 1213 01:02:25,458 --> 01:02:27,627 but more of a matter of when and when they do, 1214 01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:29,061 we want people to be ready. 1215 01:02:29,095 --> 01:02:31,831 We're all about preparedness here and it really is 1216 01:02:31,864 --> 01:02:34,534 something that we think is a family activity. 1217 01:02:34,567 --> 01:02:36,335 Everybody in the house should be prepared 1218 01:02:36,369 --> 01:02:37,570 for when the zombies come. 1219 01:02:37,603 --> 01:02:40,173 We really want to instill for our customers to actually 1220 01:02:40,206 --> 01:02:43,042 have an avenue basically to come out and give them products 1221 01:02:43,075 --> 01:02:44,243 to train with. 1222 01:02:44,277 --> 01:02:47,280 Our targets basically have been shot in testing up to 1223 01:02:47,313 --> 01:02:49,649 about 2500 times, maybe a little bit more. 1224 01:02:49,682 --> 01:02:51,651 We've shot them with everything from a .22 all the way up to 1225 01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:54,320 a 50 BMG, so anything you want to throw at it. 1226 01:02:54,353 --> 01:02:57,723 All of our bleeding targets have 500 individual cells of blood 1227 01:02:57,757 --> 01:03:00,526 inside distributed through the center mass and through the face 1228 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,462 so it's not one large bladder where you shoot it once 1229 01:03:02,495 --> 01:03:04,230 and everything runs out and the fun's over. 1230 01:03:04,263 --> 01:03:07,099 Our targets are designed to last all day. 1231 01:03:07,133 --> 01:03:09,535 Firearm safety is a very serious thing. 1232 01:03:09,569 --> 01:03:11,571 When you start talking about shooting three-dimensional 1233 01:03:11,604 --> 01:03:15,241 realistic human beings, people get uneasy about that, 1234 01:03:15,274 --> 01:03:17,877 but as soon as you make it a zombie, then it's okay. 1235 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:20,446 We came out with the Chris zombie, 1236 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,448 who is the quintessential zombie. 1237 01:03:22,482 --> 01:03:25,418 He still, to this day, remains our number one seller. 1238 01:03:25,451 --> 01:03:28,120 We did quickly move into the terrorist and the Nazi. 1239 01:03:28,154 --> 01:03:29,655 Zombies don't really discriminate 1240 01:03:29,689 --> 01:03:31,524 so we came out with an ex-girlfriend. 1241 01:03:31,557 --> 01:03:34,093 When people ask us all the time, how do you have a female 1242 01:03:34,126 --> 01:03:37,196 shooting target and I have to tell them, look, if it comes 1243 01:03:37,230 --> 01:03:39,365 right down to it, if my mother becomes a zombie, 1244 01:03:39,398 --> 01:03:41,968 it's going to break my heart, but I'm not going to hesitate. 1245 01:03:42,001 --> 01:03:43,569 I'm going to have to double tap her. 1246 01:03:43,603 --> 01:03:47,073 When the zombie apocalypse arrives, will you survive? 1247 01:03:47,106 --> 01:03:49,175 Zombie go boom! 1248 01:03:49,208 --> 01:03:52,545 Kick undead ass! 1249 01:03:52,578 --> 01:03:56,082 The USA-made Ka-Bar Zombie Killer Swabbie was created 1250 01:03:56,115 --> 01:04:00,319 to ensure you are prepared in the most extreme of situations. 1251 01:04:13,566 --> 01:04:14,967 Holy shit! 1252 01:04:16,302 --> 01:04:17,837 Holy shit! 1253 01:04:17,870 --> 01:04:20,506 I didn't know if that was actually a possibility 1254 01:04:20,540 --> 01:04:24,043 to take somebody's face off. 1255 01:04:24,076 --> 01:04:28,180 The layers are ridiculous, crystal skull, extremely hard. 1256 01:04:28,214 --> 01:04:30,416 The crystal skull is actually probably harder than 1257 01:04:30,449 --> 01:04:32,451 a human skull and this was just easy. 1258 01:04:36,389 --> 01:04:37,456 How easy was that? 1259 01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:39,892 That was just as easy as the first strike. 1260 01:04:39,926 --> 01:04:41,394 ZGB approved! 1261 01:04:41,427 --> 01:04:45,064 Oh my God! 1262 01:04:45,097 --> 01:04:47,033 Calm down, it's okay. 1263 01:04:47,066 --> 01:04:48,200 I love that thing! 1264 01:04:49,168 --> 01:04:51,304 A common phrase in zombie circles is 1265 01:04:51,337 --> 01:04:52,872 "blades don't need reloading." 1266 01:04:52,905 --> 01:04:55,308 I always say, yeah but, blades need sharpening. 1267 01:04:55,341 --> 01:04:57,310 Have you ever tried to hit someone with the back end 1268 01:04:57,343 --> 01:04:58,578 of a machete? 1269 01:04:58,611 --> 01:05:01,147 Like the parts that aren't sharp or the flat end of a machete? 1270 01:05:01,180 --> 01:05:02,515 They'd be like, ah, why'd you do that? 1271 01:05:02,548 --> 01:05:03,683 You slapped me. 1272 01:05:03,716 --> 01:05:05,985 Pack of dogs, I'd have a big pack of dogs, big vicious 1273 01:05:06,018 --> 01:05:09,221 and small vicious dogs as long as there was dog food. 1274 01:05:09,255 --> 01:05:11,657 I guess the zombies would provide the dog food but then 1275 01:05:11,691 --> 01:05:14,193 the dogs, you know how dogs like to get into corpses and stuff 1276 01:05:14,226 --> 01:05:15,461 and they throw up. 1277 01:05:15,494 --> 01:05:17,597 I'd have to be letting the dog out in the middle of the night 1278 01:05:17,630 --> 01:05:19,298 so they could vomit and then the zombies 1279 01:05:19,332 --> 01:05:21,334 might get into the house. 1280 01:05:21,367 --> 01:05:23,903 It's interesting because if it did happen, people would think, 1281 01:05:23,936 --> 01:05:26,672 okay, so it's like Romero movies, but it might not be. 1282 01:05:26,706 --> 01:05:28,641 It might not necessarily be George's vision. 1283 01:05:28,674 --> 01:05:29,909 It might be something else. 1284 01:05:29,942 --> 01:05:32,878 You might cut their head off or smash it in and the body still 1285 01:05:32,912 --> 01:05:35,381 comes after you or something like that, you know? 1286 01:05:35,414 --> 01:05:37,249 (laughing) 1287 01:05:37,283 --> 01:05:40,152 I think, you know, movies show that there really 1288 01:05:40,186 --> 01:05:43,923 is no good weapon, they always find a way. 1289 01:05:43,956 --> 01:05:45,424 You're going to run out of bullets. 1290 01:05:45,458 --> 01:05:50,863 There's too many to hold off with a sword or a blunt object. 1291 01:05:50,896 --> 01:05:52,398 Fire doesn't stop them. 1292 01:05:52,431 --> 01:05:54,600 I mean, we're screwed. 1293 01:05:54,634 --> 01:05:57,470 I have never seen a zombie movie where someone dies of 1294 01:05:57,503 --> 01:06:00,339 dehydration, but that's going to kill a lot more people 1295 01:06:00,373 --> 01:06:01,874 than zombie bites. 1296 01:06:01,907 --> 01:06:04,043 I've never seen a zombie movie where someone has drunk from 1297 01:06:04,076 --> 01:06:07,813 a puddle and crapped themselves to death, but that's going to 1298 01:06:07,847 --> 01:06:10,116 kill a lot more people than zombie bites. 1299 01:06:10,149 --> 01:06:14,353 Starvation, disease, friendly fire, accidents, infections, 1300 01:06:14,387 --> 01:06:17,590 all these things are going to kill people a lot faster. 1301 01:06:17,623 --> 01:06:19,425 Liberals will become your zombies. 1302 01:06:19,458 --> 01:06:22,328 They're going to be the first ones to cry and moan and die 1303 01:06:22,361 --> 01:06:25,297 and they're going to be the first ones to do the looting, 1304 01:06:25,331 --> 01:06:29,468 the pillaging, and they're going to be the zombies. 1305 01:06:29,502 --> 01:06:32,705 Like a lot of liberal Americans, I was excited when Barack Obama 1306 01:06:32,738 --> 01:06:36,776 took office four years ago, but it's a very different world now, 1307 01:06:36,809 --> 01:06:39,211 and Mitt Romney is a very different candidate, one with 1308 01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:42,381 the vision and determination to cut through business as usual 1309 01:06:42,415 --> 01:06:46,285 politics, and finally put this country back on the path 1310 01:06:46,318 --> 01:06:47,953 to the zombie apocalypse. 1311 01:06:47,987 --> 01:06:50,756 He's not afraid to face a ravening grasping hoard of 1312 01:06:50,790 --> 01:06:53,859 sub-humans because that's how he sees poor people already. 1313 01:06:53,893 --> 01:06:56,262 Paid for by the Committee to Learn Parkour, like really soon, 1314 01:06:56,295 --> 01:06:58,064 like maybe take a class or something. 1315 01:07:02,568 --> 01:07:04,203 We talked to a lot of survivalists and preppers, 1316 01:07:04,236 --> 01:07:06,505 each of them stressing at the top of their list 1317 01:07:06,539 --> 01:07:09,041 the most important thing during any catastrophe -- 1318 01:07:09,075 --> 01:07:10,743 you know, like a zombie apocalypse -- 1319 01:07:10,776 --> 01:07:15,548 the need for clean water and water filters like this one. 1320 01:07:15,581 --> 01:07:18,851 So in the name of survival, I'm going to pee into this cup, 1321 01:07:18,884 --> 01:07:23,422 filter it, and then drink it, because if this filter works, 1322 01:07:23,456 --> 01:07:25,925 it's not really my pee anymore, right? 1323 01:07:25,958 --> 01:07:27,526 You ready for this? 1324 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,762 Okay, here it goes. 1325 01:07:29,795 --> 01:07:32,298 I'm thinking like I'm at a doctor's office. 1326 01:07:32,331 --> 01:07:36,202 Alright, here we go. 1327 01:07:36,235 --> 01:07:38,704 Zombies are coming. 1328 01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:42,074 It doesn't help that it's fizzy. 1329 01:07:44,343 --> 01:07:45,544 It's warm. 1330 01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:03,129 It kind of tastes like water, yeah. 1331 01:08:03,162 --> 01:08:05,865 I think that was safe to drink. 1332 01:08:05,898 --> 01:08:07,666 We're good. 1333 01:08:08,901 --> 01:08:10,436 MATT I've tried to break down every state in the United States 1334 01:08:10,469 --> 01:08:13,739 based on zombie survivability and I used 20 or 30 different 1335 01:08:13,773 --> 01:08:18,110 factors -- topography, climate, public health infrastructure, 1336 01:08:18,144 --> 01:08:21,447 natural resources, military presence, on and on and on, 1337 01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:24,116 the most important one is population density, by far. 1338 01:08:24,150 --> 01:08:25,918 Up there also is gun ownership rate. 1339 01:08:25,951 --> 01:08:28,587 New Jersey ranks the lowest in zombie survivability. 1340 01:08:28,621 --> 01:08:32,024 Population density of 1,000 people per square mile 1341 01:08:32,057 --> 01:08:34,693 and a gun ownership rate of 12.3 percent. 1342 01:08:34,727 --> 01:08:38,631 Then we look at Wyoming -- population density of 5.6 people 1343 01:08:38,664 --> 01:08:42,201 per square mile and a gun ownership rate of 68 percent, 1344 01:08:42,234 --> 01:08:44,637 so it's like one dude with a gun sitting on a farm going, 1345 01:08:44,670 --> 01:08:46,772 "Hey buddy, do you see a zombie over there?" 1346 01:08:46,806 --> 01:08:49,208 And the other guy yelling over, "No, I don't see one!" 1347 01:08:49,241 --> 01:08:53,145 Five people per square mile makes very few zombies. 1348 01:08:53,179 --> 01:08:54,780 The entire northeast is totally screwed. 1349 01:08:54,814 --> 01:08:56,949 If you ever want a reason not to move to New York City, 1350 01:08:56,982 --> 01:08:58,150 that's a reason. 1351 01:08:58,184 --> 01:08:59,952 When zombies come, everybody's dead. 1352 01:08:59,985 --> 01:09:02,721 New York is the hero city, it just is. 1353 01:09:02,755 --> 01:09:05,257 Like I was in New York for 9/11, I was there for the blackout, 1354 01:09:05,291 --> 01:09:07,827 and look what happened with this horrific storm? 1355 01:09:07,860 --> 01:09:10,629 New Yorkers freaking came together, they kept calm, 1356 01:09:10,663 --> 01:09:13,165 they carried on, and they're dealing, so New York can handle 1357 01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:15,734 anything and it's the most densely populated place 1358 01:09:15,768 --> 01:09:17,736 in North America. 1359 01:09:17,770 --> 01:09:19,905 L.A., where I'm from, gone. 1360 01:09:19,939 --> 01:09:23,742 (laughter) 1361 01:09:23,776 --> 01:09:25,477 I think one of the greatest misconceptions in zombie 1362 01:09:25,511 --> 01:09:28,414 survival is that zombies are what you need to worry about 1363 01:09:28,447 --> 01:09:29,682 when you're trying to survive. 1364 01:09:29,715 --> 01:09:32,418 Zombies are only one of a whole host of threats that you really 1365 01:09:32,451 --> 01:09:36,121 need to face and I would argue that humans are as great 1366 01:09:36,155 --> 01:09:40,125 or maybe even a greater threat than zombies, right? 1367 01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:40,793 I'm not a horror fan. 1368 01:09:40,826 --> 01:09:42,895 I don't seek out fear. 1369 01:09:42,928 --> 01:09:47,433 I think that most horror fans, in their core, feel safe. 1370 01:09:47,466 --> 01:09:48,534 I don't. 1371 01:09:48,567 --> 01:09:51,070 I naturally feel scared so my writing is to exercise 1372 01:09:51,103 --> 01:09:53,105 an anxiety that I already have. 1373 01:09:53,138 --> 01:09:57,309 I base my zombies on AIDS. 1374 01:09:57,343 --> 01:10:01,213 Now AIDS is insanely hard to get. 1375 01:10:01,247 --> 01:10:04,016 It's not waterborne, it's not foodborne, it's not airborne. 1376 01:10:04,049 --> 01:10:06,986 How in the world did it kill millions and millions of people 1377 01:10:07,019 --> 01:10:09,054 and still killing millions and millions of people? 1378 01:10:09,088 --> 01:10:11,857 Because we, as people, were stupid. 1379 01:10:11,891 --> 01:10:13,759 If the President of the United States had gone on national 1380 01:10:13,792 --> 01:10:17,496 television in say 1981 and said look, there's a really, really 1381 01:10:17,529 --> 01:10:20,633 horrible disease, hard to get, but if you do get it, you're 1382 01:10:20,666 --> 01:10:24,837 doomed, so there's going to be a national education campaign, 1383 01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:27,573 we could have cured AIDS with a pamphlet and so it's easy to 1384 01:10:27,606 --> 01:10:31,510 imagine something like a zombie plague getting out of control. 1385 01:10:34,113 --> 01:10:36,749 MATT: Absolutely, a zombie pandemic is possible. 1386 01:10:36,782 --> 01:10:40,819 This new wave of zombies, this living zombie, that is created 1387 01:10:40,853 --> 01:10:45,624 by some sort of infection or virus that gets out of hand. 1388 01:10:45,658 --> 01:10:48,093 I really do think that it's more plausible now 1389 01:10:48,127 --> 01:10:50,396 than I did, say, five years ago. 1390 01:10:50,429 --> 01:10:52,364 Could a zombie apocalypse happen? 1391 01:10:52,398 --> 01:10:55,467 Well, let's examine what we mean or what the storytellers mean 1392 01:10:55,501 --> 01:10:56,702 when they say this. 1393 01:10:56,735 --> 01:10:59,872 They mean a parasite jumping from one organism to another. 1394 01:10:59,905 --> 01:11:02,041 This happens routinely. 1395 01:11:02,074 --> 01:11:05,010 60 percent of all human diseases come from the animals 1396 01:11:05,044 --> 01:11:06,779 that we eat or live with. 1397 01:11:06,812 --> 01:11:09,782 AIDS has infected 75 billion people 1398 01:11:09,815 --> 01:11:11,483 and killed 35 million people. 1399 01:11:11,517 --> 01:11:15,187 Bird flu and Swine flu, the Bubonic Plague in Europe 1400 01:11:15,220 --> 01:11:17,990 killed half of the population at the time. 1401 01:11:18,023 --> 01:11:21,527 The Spanish Epidemic in 1918 killed more people 1402 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,330 than the First World War. 1403 01:11:24,363 --> 01:11:27,299 STEVEN: ANSD is the abbreviation for the disease I made up, 1404 01:11:27,333 --> 01:11:30,102 it stands for Ataxic Neurodegenerative Satiety 1405 01:11:30,135 --> 01:11:32,204 Deficiency Syndrome. 1406 01:11:32,237 --> 01:11:34,073 Ataxic means you don't walk well. 1407 01:11:34,106 --> 01:11:37,142 Neurodegenerative means that your brain is being degraded, 1408 01:11:37,176 --> 01:11:38,410 it's degenerating. 1409 01:11:38,444 --> 01:11:40,346 Satiety is a sense that you're full, the sense that you've 1410 01:11:40,379 --> 01:11:41,680 eaten enough and that's in your brain, too. 1411 01:11:41,714 --> 01:11:43,515 Your brain is what tells you you've eaten enough and it's 1412 01:11:43,549 --> 01:11:46,485 a syndrome because we don't know what causes it. 1413 01:11:46,518 --> 01:11:47,953 There is one thing that we can't ever do, 1414 01:11:47,987 --> 01:11:49,154 we can't raise the dead. 1415 01:11:49,188 --> 01:11:51,223 In the book I wrote, we philosophically decided 1416 01:11:51,256 --> 01:11:53,325 that they were dead because I realized medically speaking, 1417 01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:55,928 I can't have anything that makes the dead come back to life, 1418 01:11:55,961 --> 01:12:00,065 but other than that aspect, you can have brain pathology. 1419 01:12:00,099 --> 01:12:03,202 You can have neurobiological insults that will yield 1420 01:12:03,235 --> 01:12:06,805 a kind of presentation of a person who acts like 1421 01:12:06,839 --> 01:12:08,574 the zombies we see in the movies. 1422 01:12:10,042 --> 01:12:12,945 There are many splendid examples of parasites that control 1423 01:12:12,978 --> 01:12:16,815 behavior and often times, these examples are as fantastical 1424 01:12:16,849 --> 01:12:20,319 or even more fantastical than we can see in Hollywood creations. 1425 01:12:20,352 --> 01:12:23,689 So we have examples of fungi controlling ant behavior. 1426 01:12:23,722 --> 01:12:28,327 We have emerald jeweled wasps injecting a very specific mind 1427 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,096 manipulator into the brains of cockroaches, 1428 01:12:31,130 --> 01:12:35,000 lots of examples of parasites controlling behavior. 1429 01:12:35,034 --> 01:12:37,736 We call them zombies and we even think about it now 1430 01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:41,573 in the context of zombie biology. 1431 01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:44,143 In the case of the ants, the case of the zombie ants, 1432 01:12:44,176 --> 01:12:47,146 what happens is that a regular colony of ants is living in 1433 01:12:47,179 --> 01:12:49,915 a tropical rain forest and in the course of foraging, 1434 01:12:49,948 --> 01:12:53,085 they walk through a patch of fungal spores in the ground 1435 01:12:53,118 --> 01:12:56,755 and these fungal spores attach tightly and start replicating 1436 01:12:56,789 --> 01:13:01,894 inside its body...and then at a particular moment when 1437 01:13:01,927 --> 01:13:05,030 the fungus needs to complete the rest of its life cycle, 1438 01:13:05,064 --> 01:13:08,934 it controls the behavior of this ant, making it leave the colony 1439 01:13:08,967 --> 01:13:11,670 and go out into the understory vegetation 1440 01:13:11,703 --> 01:13:14,973 and go to the underside of the leaf, deeply imbed 1441 01:13:15,007 --> 01:13:18,744 those mandibles into the leaf, because on the underside of 1442 01:13:18,777 --> 01:13:22,314 this leaf, on the platform, the fungus is going to grow 1443 01:13:22,347 --> 01:13:25,918 a large stalk from the back of the ant's head to produce spores 1444 01:13:25,951 --> 01:13:28,153 which are shot down into the forest floor 1445 01:13:28,187 --> 01:13:31,857 and the cycle continues again. 1446 01:13:31,890 --> 01:13:33,659 Why doesn't it happen for humans? 1447 01:13:33,692 --> 01:13:36,495 It really comes down to a numbers game. 1448 01:13:36,528 --> 01:13:38,797 There are almost a million species of insects 1449 01:13:38,831 --> 01:13:42,968 and there are roughly 5,500, 6,000 species of mammals. 1450 01:13:43,001 --> 01:13:47,139 So evolution just hasn't had the opportunity to play with our 1451 01:13:47,172 --> 01:13:50,442 minds, but despite that, we do see some really cool examples 1452 01:13:50,476 --> 01:13:52,811 in mammals of controlled behavior. 1453 01:13:52,845 --> 01:13:56,815 Rabies is something that really springs to people's minds. 1454 01:13:56,849 --> 01:13:58,617 MATT: When I was growing up, no one ever talked about Mad Cow 1455 01:13:58,650 --> 01:14:01,186 Disease, but Mad Cow Disease is in the news a lot now. 1456 01:14:01,220 --> 01:14:02,921 Here's the problem with Mad Cow Disease, it's created by 1457 01:14:02,955 --> 01:14:06,091 a protein and it's called a Prion, it's a mutated protein. 1458 01:14:06,125 --> 01:14:08,594 This protein, if it gets into your brain, it causes all 1459 01:14:08,627 --> 01:14:11,163 the other proteins in your brain to mutate also. 1460 01:14:11,196 --> 01:14:14,967 The new strain of this protein is showing evidence that 1461 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,935 it can be transferred from blood to blood. 1462 01:14:16,969 --> 01:14:20,139 On top of that, the new symptoms are it causes you to go insane 1463 01:14:20,172 --> 01:14:22,841 and often violently insane. 1464 01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:24,843 Mad Cow Disease turned into Mad Human Disease 1465 01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:26,278 turned into Mad Zombie Disease. 1466 01:14:26,311 --> 01:14:28,947 We already have Mad Cow, we already have Mad Human, 1467 01:14:28,981 --> 01:14:31,517 and we're halfway to Mad Zombie, but the problem is 1468 01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:33,619 once it happens, it's too late. 1469 01:14:33,652 --> 01:14:36,355 There's no more polite discussion about what it's 1470 01:14:36,388 --> 01:14:39,658 going to be like and debating about the best way to survive. 1471 01:14:39,691 --> 01:14:41,160 It's run and scream time. 1472 01:14:41,193 --> 01:14:43,929 There's no more making movies, there's no more watching TV, 1473 01:14:43,962 --> 01:14:45,831 there's just, oh my God, I'm being eaten. 1474 01:14:45,864 --> 01:14:48,600 It appears the dead have risen and are walking among us. 1475 01:14:48,634 --> 01:14:50,435 These zombies have a certain sexual preference 1476 01:14:50,469 --> 01:14:51,970 by attacking only men. 1477 01:14:52,004 --> 01:14:54,106 Officials at the Pentagon are not sure if this is 1478 01:14:54,139 --> 01:14:56,575 a biological attack or if the zombies are simply 1479 01:14:56,608 --> 01:14:57,976 doing this by choice. 1480 01:15:06,952 --> 01:15:10,489 ALEX: In every town, in America pretty much, or any town of any 1481 01:15:10,522 --> 01:15:13,659 reasonable size, there's a group of young people engaged, 1482 01:15:13,692 --> 01:15:17,529 even as we speak, making their independent zombie film. 1483 01:15:20,599 --> 01:15:23,168 MAX: I don't know when the zombie craze is going to 1484 01:15:23,202 --> 01:15:25,737 die out, I don't think it'll ever die out completely. 1485 01:15:25,771 --> 01:15:27,272 I think they're, in some element, 1486 01:15:27,306 --> 01:15:28,507 they're going to be here to stay. 1487 01:15:28,540 --> 01:15:30,142 I didn't expect it to go on this long. 1488 01:15:30,175 --> 01:15:32,711 I happen to write "The Zombie Paper" and then later the book, 1489 01:15:32,744 --> 01:15:36,782 just at the right time and then it just keeps flying forward, 1490 01:15:36,815 --> 01:15:39,718 or shambling forward, I should say, this whole zombie thing. 1491 01:15:39,751 --> 01:15:42,354 There's probably a ceiling on zombie popularity, but I don't 1492 01:15:42,387 --> 01:15:45,057 know if we've seen it yet and I don't know when we will see it 1493 01:15:45,090 --> 01:15:46,892 but as long as things are fucked up. 1494 01:15:46,925 --> 01:15:56,969 ♪ 1495 01:15:56,969 --> 01:16:02,674 ♪ 1496 01:16:02,708 --> 01:16:06,211 I've heard a number of people say, this is it, zombies have 1497 01:16:06,245 --> 01:16:08,847 run their course and now we're going to see vampires again 1498 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,116 or we're going to see werewolves or we're going to see tapeworms. 1499 01:16:11,149 --> 01:16:12,884 I don't know. 1500 01:16:12,918 --> 01:16:16,755 DR. BLUMBERG: "World War Z," the movie, is a perfect case study 1501 01:16:16,788 --> 01:16:19,558 of not just how mainstream zombies have become, 1502 01:16:19,591 --> 01:16:22,761 but how much more mainstream they might become. 1503 01:16:22,794 --> 01:16:26,531 Because that film is a PG-13, it is sort of a new frontier 1504 01:16:26,565 --> 01:16:27,799 in a sense. 1505 01:16:27,833 --> 01:16:29,735 KYLE: And that was scooped just a little bit by 1506 01:16:29,768 --> 01:16:32,137 the "Warm Bodies" film because the "Warm Bodies" film 1507 01:16:32,170 --> 01:16:35,007 was kind of the first zombie date movie. 1508 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,410 Now we have a zombie movie you can bring your girlfriend to. 1509 01:16:38,443 --> 01:16:40,779 GREG: You know, to me, zombie movies aren't zombie movies 1510 01:16:40,812 --> 01:16:42,114 without gore. 1511 01:16:42,147 --> 01:16:45,517 That's like doing a gangster movie, but nobody has any guns. 1512 01:16:45,550 --> 01:16:50,155 Part of the whole culture of it is the idea that you are being 1513 01:16:50,188 --> 01:16:55,260 devoured literally by another human being. 1514 01:16:55,294 --> 01:16:58,630 FRAN: From "Night of the Living Dead" to "World War Z," 1515 01:16:58,664 --> 01:17:01,333 we've covered a lot of ground so it'll be interesting to see 1516 01:17:01,366 --> 01:17:04,836 zombies in space or something. 1517 01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:06,772 Not only do we have PG-13 zombie movies, 1518 01:17:06,805 --> 01:17:08,807 we have kid zombie movies now. 1519 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:17,316 Hollywood is banking on zombies being that big, and to me, 1520 01:17:17,349 --> 01:17:22,788 zombies have always been small, little guys. 1521 01:17:22,821 --> 01:17:26,291 THEA: I really believe that it's something that connects us all 1522 01:17:26,325 --> 01:17:28,660 and it's going to get bigger. 1523 01:17:28,694 --> 01:17:30,495 ROBERT: They're gonna be on your streets, they're gonna be in 1524 01:17:30,529 --> 01:17:33,298 your stores, they're gonna be coming at you, whether they're 1525 01:17:33,332 --> 01:17:37,002 fast or slow or whatever the hell they are, but it's here to 1526 01:17:37,035 --> 01:17:40,572 stay, and you know what, if you don't like it, get used to it 1527 01:17:40,605 --> 01:17:43,175 because it's not going anywhere. 1528 01:17:45,077 --> 01:17:55,554 ♪ 1529 01:17:55,587 --> 01:17:59,291 ♪ Our love story could be kinda gory, far from boring ♪ 1530 01:17:59,324 --> 01:18:04,696 ♪ We'd meet at a post... apocalypse ♪ 1531 01:18:04,730 --> 01:18:08,767 ♪ Yeah, I'd be slowly walking in a group stalking you ♪ 1532 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:16,241 ♪ You'd be the only man alive that I could not resist ♪ 1533 01:18:16,274 --> 01:18:18,643 ♪ Then all of your friends they'd try to kill us ♪ 1534 01:18:18,677 --> 01:18:21,213 ♪ But only because they'd be jealous ♪ 1535 01:18:21,246 --> 01:18:26,451 ♪ That our love is deeper than Edward and Bella's ♪ 1536 01:18:26,485 --> 01:18:31,456 ♪ If I were a zombie I'd never eat your brain ♪ 1537 01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:33,258 ♪ I'd just want your heart ♪ 1538 01:18:33,291 --> 01:18:36,194 ♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart I'd just want your heart ♪ 1539 01:18:36,228 --> 01:18:42,067 ♪ Yeah oh, if I were a zombie I'd never eat your brain ♪ 1540 01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:43,668 ♪ I'd just want your heart ♪ 1541 01:18:43,702 --> 01:18:46,405 ♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart I'd just want your heart ♪ 1542 01:18:46,438 --> 01:18:47,639 ♪ 'Cause I want ya ♪ 1543 01:18:47,672 --> 01:18:50,075 ♪ You'd be hiding in a second floor apartment ♪ 1544 01:18:50,108 --> 01:18:54,346 ♪ Knocking all the stairs down to save your life... ♪ 1545 01:18:54,379 --> 01:18:57,749 ♪ From the undead ♪ 1546 01:18:57,783 --> 01:19:00,485 ♪ Double-barrel shotgun taking out the slow ones ♪ 1547 01:19:00,519 --> 01:19:04,723 ♪ Then you'd see the passion burning in my eye ♪ 1548 01:19:04,756 --> 01:19:08,160 ♪ And I'd keep my head ♪ 1549 01:19:08,193 --> 01:19:10,729 ♪ Then all of your friends they'd try to kill us ♪ 1550 01:19:10,762 --> 01:19:13,265 ♪ But only because they'd be jealous ♪ 1551 01:19:13,298 --> 01:19:18,203 ♪ That our love is deeper than Edward and Bella's ♪ 1552 01:19:18,236 --> 01:19:23,875 ♪ Oh...if I were a zombie I'd never eat your brain ♪ 1553 01:19:23,909 --> 01:19:25,444 ♪ I'd just want your heart ♪ 1554 01:19:25,477 --> 01:19:28,113 ♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart I'd just want your heart ♪ 1555 01:19:28,146 --> 01:19:34,286 ♪ Yeah oh, if I were a zombie I'd never eat your brain ♪ 1556 01:19:34,319 --> 01:19:35,854 ♪ I'd just want your heart ♪ 1557 01:19:35,887 --> 01:19:38,457 ♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart I'd just want your heart ♪ 1558 01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:44,095 ♪ 'Cause I want ya ♪ 1559 01:19:44,129 --> 01:19:47,299 ♪ And I'd try not to bite and infect you ♪ 1560 01:19:47,332 --> 01:19:51,236 ♪ Because I'd respect you too much ♪ 1561 01:19:51,269 --> 01:19:55,307 ♪ Yeah, that's why I'd wait until we got married ♪ 1562 01:19:55,340 --> 01:19:59,110 ♪ Oh, and our happiest days would be spent ♪ 1563 01:19:59,144 --> 01:20:01,880 ♪ Picking off all your friends ♪ 1564 01:20:01,913 --> 01:20:08,553 ♪ And they'd see a love this deep won't stay buried ♪ 1565 01:20:08,587 --> 01:20:13,525 ♪ If I were a zombie I'd never eat your brain ♪ 1566 01:20:13,558 --> 01:20:14,893 ♪ I'd just want your heart ♪ 1567 01:20:14,926 --> 01:20:17,963 ♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart I'd just want your heart ♪ 1568 01:20:17,996 --> 01:20:23,969 ♪ Yeah oh, if I were a zombie I'd never eat your brain ♪ 1569 01:20:24,002 --> 01:20:25,303 ♪ I'd just want your heart ♪ 1570 01:20:25,337 --> 01:20:25,303 ♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart I'd just want your heart ♪ 132677

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