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I don't need to tell
you, Mr. Speaker,
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that zombies don't
recognize borders and that
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a zombie invasion in the United
States could easily turn into
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a continent-wide
pandemic so on behalf of
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concerned Canadians everywhere,
Mr. Speaker, I want to ask
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the Minister of Foreign Affairs
is he working with
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his American
counterparts to develop
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an international zombie strategy
so that a zombie invasion
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does not turn into a
zombie apocalypse?
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(cheers and applause)
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Coming up next on Action
News 7, a dog was found...
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excuse me just one moment...
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I see.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm
receiving a special broadcast
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about something
that's happening.
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Van Dorn Street is blocked
right now by overturned cars.
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We are receiving news that the
bodies of the recently deceased
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are returning to life and
attacking the living.
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Officers are on their way right
now to take you to safety.
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...A live reporter out
there on the scene.
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(screaming)
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There are millions,
millions of zombies
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roaming the earth
chewing people up.
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Is that crazy or what?
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I suggest you find
the tallest building
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in your town and jump off.
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The zombie outbreak is
no longer an outbreak,
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but a full-on pandemic.
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Warning you to stay
indoors, to lock your doors,
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to arm yourself with any
weapons that are available
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and this is America
so you should have plenty.
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Grab something heavy,
something that you could hit
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very hard with, and let's party!
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♪
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♪ The living dead are
keeping me up at night ♪
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♪ They're hanging around
outside ♪
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♪ They're probably mad
they've died ♪
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♪ The living dead are
gathering in the streets ♪
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♪ I'm buried beneath my sheets ♪
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♪ They're making it
hard to sleep ♪
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♪
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♪ I hear them shuffle
in the crowd ♪
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♪ But do they have
to be so loud ♪
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♪ It seems to me that all their
lives were spent being noisy ♪
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♪ And now they get to do it
twice just to annoy me ♪
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♪ The living dead are
keeping me up at night ♪
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♪ They're hanging
around outside ♪
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♪ They're probably
mad they've died ♪
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♪ The living dead are
keeping me up at night ♪
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♪ They're hanging around
outside ♪
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♪ They're probably
mad they've died ♪
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I'm Jonathan Leonard from
Geekscape and we're going to
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find out what the average
person knows about zombies.
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A zombie is someone who's dead
and came out of the ground
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and is bleeding and is gross
looking and they'll kill you.
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What do zombies want?
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Brains.
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What are the
zombie rules?
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Zombie rules is that you
die, but you don't die.
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If you want to be more like
angsty and metaphorical,
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a zombie could be someone
trapped in a workday
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who lives in a box
and doesn't have fun.
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In Chinese tradition
a zombie just jumps.
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It doesn't talk, it doesn't
walk, it just jumps.
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What?
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Arms out and then it
just hops like that.
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The zombie is a relentlessly
aggressive, reanimated
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human corpse driven by
a biological infection,
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so there's kind of
three aspects to that.
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You don't negotiate
with a zombie, right?
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You can't talk a zombie
out of wanting to eat you.
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You can't say, "Hey,
go around the corner,
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there's a family of five
getting in a Winnebago.
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You can eat all five of
them and leave me alone."
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Secondly, it's a reanimated
human corpse, limited in
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its ability so it's actually
a rotting corpse.
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Thirdly, a biological
infection which is,
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I think, what makes zombies
really, really scary.
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MAN: They're us and
they're us having succumbed to
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our worst fear
which is our own death.
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You can't outstrip them even
though they're slower than you.
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Eventually you have
to go to sleep.
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They don't, so even if
you're a mile ahead of them,
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when you're snoring
they'll catch up and meet you.
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And that's like death itself.
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You do everything
you can to stave it off.
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You do the steps at Santa
Monica, you don't eat red meat.
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They'll get you in the end.
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Most famous monsters,
the big-screen monsters
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have some kind of
long-standing tradition
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where their stories have been
developed previously --
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the vampire, the werewolf,
even the slasher,
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the serial killer comes out
of a crime novel tradition.
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The zombie comes kind of
directly out of folklore
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and there really wasn't a
literary narrative tradition.
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When you take a look at zombies
in cinema specifically,
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you can technically go
back into the silent era.
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There are, of course, classics
like "Cabinet of Dr. Caligari,"
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where you have the sleepwalking
character in there who is
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very much zombie-like, and yet
for all intents and purposes,
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we all have kind of
collectively agreed,
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it all starts in 1932
with "White Zombie."
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Zombies!
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The filmmakers in the '30s
and '40s were kind of
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making up these
stories out of nothing.
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They weren't taking existing
material and adapting it.
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If anything, they were
drawing on misconceptions
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and misunderstandings of race
relations in the colonies,
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sensational ideas of
what voodoo and folklore
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really meant in Haiti.
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They took that idea and
they kind of merged it with
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the visual style
of Todd Browning
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and the gothic tradition.
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I thought that beauty
alone would satisfy,
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but the soul is gone.
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I can't bear those
empty, staring eyes.
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So in "White Zombie," you get
a narrative that takes place
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in Haiti and it involves
Haitian voodoo, but then there's
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a gothic castle on the coast
of Haiti for some reason.
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So it's this weird fusion
of a misunderstood,
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sensationalized folklore with
an established and successful
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cinematic tradition
for monsters.
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The early films are always about
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black people
menacing white women.
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It's really the enslavement
by the former slaves
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that makes that monster
initially so terrifying.
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The next major step in sort of
the evolution of the zombies
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of pop culture icon comes
when science fiction briefly
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takes the lead over
horror in the 1950s
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and then you get movies
like "Invisible Invaders..."
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People of Earth,
this is your last warning.
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...in which aliens resurrect
human corpses and use them
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like puppets to try to take over
which is virtually the same plot
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as "Plan 9 from Outer Space,"
one of the most infamous movies
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of all time, and what's
interesting about those movies
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is there we have it, we have
dead people coming back.
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They're not
demonically possessed.
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They're not impelled by
some desire to eat flesh
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or something we don't know.
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They're being puppeteered by
aliens, but they're zombies
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and they're more like
the zombies we know today
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than the ones that
preceded them.
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But then what happened
was George Romero...
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TV: The dead who live
on living flesh.
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The dead whose haunted
souls hunt the living.
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The living whose bodies
are the only food for these
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ungodly creatures.
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(screaming)
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"Night of the Living Dead."
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We were trying to
create a new creature,
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somebody that was
dead but came back.
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We didn't have a name
for that creature.
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We called them ghouls.
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I said, "George, who are these
characters chasing this girl?"
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He said, "I don't know."
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And I said, "Well,
when I was reading it,
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it seemed to me they
could be dead people."
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He said, "That's good."
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I said, "But what do they do?
You don't say that either."
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He said, "I don't know."
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I said, "Why don't we use
my flesh-eating idea?"
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GEORGE: There was an article
in "Cahiers du Cinema"
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that called them zombies
for the first time.
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I was clinging to the idea that
we had created something new
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and when I read that article,
I said, this ain't new at all,
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so that's when I started to
accept them as zombies.
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(screaming)
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"Night of the Living Dead"
did not create zombies
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but it rewrote zombie lore.
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I like to say that there
were zombie movies
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before George Romero,
the same way there were
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space movies before
George Lucas.
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It changed everything.
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It scrapped the old
voodoo zombie and gave us
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the plague-driven flesh eater.
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The idea of the end of the world
and zombies are around
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and the world's been
overtaken by them
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and it's people against zombies
and our population is dwindling
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was introduced in that movie
and no one had ever really
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taken zombies in that
direction before.
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It's almost as if the zombie
as we know it was some sort of
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like biblical figure
that's been around forever
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and we can all
pick up and use it.
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It's not, it was George's idea,
the whole biting thing,
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the passing on the disease,
the waking up -- all George.
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What's monumental to me about
that film was the fact that
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in 1968, this film was
released with a black man
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and a white woman, and
throughout the entire movie,
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nobody made a big deal
out of the fact that
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we had two different colors.
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It was pure survival.
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GEORGE: We thought we were
pushing the envelope a little.
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We thought that some of
the scenes with the guts
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and when the kids get
roasted in the truck...
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we had actually one shot of
a naked zombie from behind.
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Bold -- that's about
as bold as we went.
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There were extreme audience
and media reactions.
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Reviewers who thought that
we were satanically inspired,
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that we were scourges, that
our film should be banned.
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Horror movies were not
raw like that back then.
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George's was almost like a
real thing, a documentary.
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The reaction to that movie
is what really got me going
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because it said people
were fainting in theatres
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and I thought, I don't think
I want to see this movie.
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It made me not want to see it
and then when I saw it,
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I was like, yeah, that's why
I didn't want to see it.
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I remember the first time I saw
it was at a midnight screening
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and the audience was
absolutely terrified.
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The sequence that blew people
away was the little girl
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down in the basement
who we discover
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is chewing on her
parents' intestines.
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The entire audience flipped out.
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People got up and left the
theatre during that scene.
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Midway through the movie
I hear this "boom, boom, boom,"
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and I'm wondering
what's going on?
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Was this part of the movie?
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And all of a sudden, I see
this guy go down the aisle...
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He blasts through
the doors, out to the curb
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and goes, blech...
all over Cambridge Avenue.
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I said, okay,
I've got to meet this guy.
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Whoever made this movie,
I've got to meet this guy.
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♪
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♪ Driving slowly going home
to see their mother's grave ♪
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♪ Walking closely there's an old
man whose clothes are decayed ♪
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♪ John can see that
she's frightened ♪
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♪ So he tries to lighten
the mood ♪
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♪ They're coming to
get you, Barbara ♪
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♪ They're coming and
they'll be here soon ♪
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♪ Don't be afraid ♪
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♪ They just want your brain and
they're coming to get you ♪
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The greatest zombie film in my
opinion is "Dawn of the Dead."
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Every time it's scary,
it becomes funny,
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and every time it's funny
it becomes scary.
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Zombies on an ice skating rink,
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it doesn't get any
funnier than that.
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It almost as if history
conspires to hand Romero
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the absolute perfect
metaphor for the zombie.
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You couldn't do any
better than that.
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We're a nation that has become
the shambling consumers
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that walk up and down the
hallways desperately wanting
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to consume and we have
lost all individuality.
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It's absolutely perfect.
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For me, "Dawn of the Dead" was
kind of the seminal zombie movie
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because it really
was the middle finger
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to the death of
the baby boomers.
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It was this generation that
started off so idealistic
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and was so, "Hey man, don't
trust anyone over 30, man.
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Don't trust anyone over 30!"
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And then they turn 30!
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(laughter)
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I mean, that moment where
they say, "What is that?"
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And he goes, "Looks like
a shopping center,
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one of those new
indoor malls."
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See, there were no
shopping centers.
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That was the first shopping
center that we had ever seen.
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With the dawn of the
death of the ideals.
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Every time it's Black Friday,
how can you not think of
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"Dawn of the Dead?"
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It's chilling and disgusting
all at once, you know?
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MAN: So there is this
evolutionary process that George
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is going through and in "Day..."
what he does is he says,
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okay, now we're going to
see the zombies evolve,
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and that was groundbreaking.
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That's what George's genius is,
I think, that he completely
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swaps allegiances
with his films.
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Often, you'll root for
the zombies which is, you know,
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you never root for the zombies
in contemporary zombie films
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because they're at our
protagonist's throats literally
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and we don't want those
protagonists to die,
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whereas, with, particularly
with "Day..." most of the human
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characters are hideous,
monstrous, aggressive military
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types who you just want
to see torn to pieces
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and when Bob shoots
Captain Rhodes, you cheer.
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It's all down to Howard Sherman
being just so sweet, you know,
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when he's using the razor
and he's on the phone
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and he's listening to the music
and he's hearing music
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for the first time
and it's like a baby.
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I just think it's one of the
most beautiful performances
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since Karloff's "Frankenstein"
as a kind of adult newborn.
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There's something
so deeply tragic
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and sympathetic about him.
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Oh, I don't feel that at all.
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There's nothing tragic
in a reanimated corpse.
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How can there be?
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A reanimated corpse is
just a reanimated corpse.
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There's nothing tragic about it.
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You shoot it in the head.
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Bob's your uncle.
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HOWARD: Boris Karloff, with that
role, had the opportunity to do
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a lot of very subtle intimate
things, most monsters don't.
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In, as Bob, I did too.
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I had a lot of very
interesting, subtle,
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and by genre standards,
very unusual things to do
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and the fact that I had the
opportunity to do something
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like that is what brought
an element of humanity to it
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that normally you just
don't find in the genre.
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GEORGE: I don't think
zombies are intelligent.
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I think that they just
remember what they used to do,
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what they used to be.
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My zombie characters that have
some personality, I think,
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are just -- what they do
because of their memory
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makes them a bit heroic,
but it's just memory.
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It's just memory.
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I mean, it's just like when
you first see Big Daddy
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in "Land of the Dead,"
he's doing what he always did.
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He's trying to fill gas.
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He hears the bell, "ding-ding"
and he thinks a car came in,
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so he comes out looking
to fill somebody's car.
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I mean, that's how stupid
he is, but he's heroic.
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(laughing)
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(yawning)
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What a perfectly
average morning,
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nothing unusual about today
which makes it the perfect day
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for a zombie apocalypse
to not happen.
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(humming)
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It's beautiful morning.
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Mmm, I smell breakfast cooking.
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Oh, what's this on the news?
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But it has been
reported that the dead
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are coming
back to life.
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Oh my God!
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The president is
declaring marshal law
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for the state
of New York.
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Betty? Is that you?
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Is that blood all
over your jammy-jams?
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Why are you just standing there?
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Why is there a smoke machine
running in the hallway now?
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Oh well.
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Even though I've seen this
scene a million times
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in every movie, I'm just
going to slowly start
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walking towards you with
my arms outstretched,
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asking if everything's
okay, even though
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this looks highly suspicious and
at any moment you're going to...
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Oh my God!
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Zombies are the only horror
films that I know where
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you're totally minding your own
business and you're not looking
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for trouble and you're not the
hot girl or the token black guy.
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You've broken no rules
to let you get killed
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but they come for you anyway.
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It's not about you,
that's the main thing.
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If something is going to
eviscerate you, eat your guts,
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you'd like it to be
about your guts, right?
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You'd like your guts to be
special, but if I can just
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step to the left and
he eats that guy's guts,
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it's not about
me anymore.
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Vampires are
all about me.
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They make me feel sexy and
libidinal and all that.
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Zombies, they could
care less about me
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and that's actually
our biggest nightmare.
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They don't sparkle.
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Right.
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(laughter)
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Every time you look at a zombie
in pop culture, whether it's
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a movie or a television show
or a comic book, anything,
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it is ultimately just
a reflection of things
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we're afraid of at that moment.
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When you start with
"Night of the living Dead,"
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1960s, late '60s,
we're afraid of Vietnam,
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we're afraid of the death
we're seeing on television.
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That's easy, but we're also
afraid about what's happening
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to the home, the nuclear
family is breaking down.
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So "Night of the Living Dead"
becomes a literal
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siege on the home.
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Jump ahead ten years --
"Dawn of the Dead,"
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what are we afraid of now?
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Consumerism, consumption.
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Jump ahead --
"Day of the Dead,"
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now we're afraid
of the Cold War,
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we're afraid of the apocalypse,
of nuclear destruction.
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As the culture changed,
zombies, to an extent,
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changed along with it.
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In the 1980s all of a sudden,
you see them starting to
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get a little bit funny.
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You had "Return of
the Living Dead,"
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all of a sudden, you have
all this comedy going on.
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The '80s were sort of a
little bit of a lighter time.
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Brains!
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But it's also desperately
frightening and depressing.
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That is probably one of
the most, if not the most,
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apocalyptic zombie
movies ever made.
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They're also the most
indestructible and frightening
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zombies in zombie movie history.
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If you ever find yourself in
a zombie apocalypse, the key,
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the first thing you should
look for is, are you in
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the "Return of the Living Dead"
Universe or not,
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because if you are, give up,
there's no hope.
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Brains!
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Another thing that's
interesting about
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"Return of the Living Dead"
is it gives rise to one of
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the longest-lasting aspects of
the zombie in pop culture...
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More brains!
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...and that's the idea
of the zombies
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coming back wanting brains.
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♪ Brains, brains, brains... ♪
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So the '90's were kind of,
I don't want to say they were
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a dead era, but they were
definitely slow comparatively.
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Party's over.
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"Dead Alive," Peter Jackson's
Sumatran rat-monkey
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family issue,
gore-fest insanity.
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It was probably the most
important film of the '90s.
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And then 9/11 came along
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and all of a sudden,
everything felt up-ended.
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I think it primed the
culture, the larger culture,
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not the people who
already like zombies,
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but the larger culture to
accept and entertain the idea
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of apocalyptic scenarios
being a possibility.
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A few years later when Katrina
happened, anyone who still had
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faith, "don't worry, no matter
what happens, we can handle it,"
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this was an aberration.
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I think that shook it as well.
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I don't think the zombie culture
would be where it was today
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if it weren't for
those kind of things.
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It brought death to
people's doorstep.
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You have "28 Days Later" which
has plenty of imagery which is
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evocative of an apocalypse
or a natural disaster.
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This fear of disease, so we
start seeing more and more
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of the infection narratives
and the invasion narratives
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as a kind of a reflection of
the fears of the 21st century.
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Zombies are very versatile as
metaphors because they are us.
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They are the people among you,
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and I think maybe that
preoccupation in society,
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the lack of safety that
we're suddenly all feeling,
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zombies are a good way to
cathartically act out that fear.
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What I always find
fascinating about zombies
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is the "Invasion of the
Body Snatchers" aspect.
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The most horrific idea is
that your brother, your wife,
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your sister, a loved one,
externally, on the outside,
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that person is exactly the same,
but on the inside
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everything is gone,
everything is erased.
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KYLE: To me, what the zombie
narrative is really about
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is losing friends and family.
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Having your loved ones turn
against you, become monstrous,
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but the biggest threat that
you face isn't some nameless,
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faceless, other monster --
it's your mom,
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it's your sister,
it's your wife.
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That, to me, encapsulates
the real terror of the zombie,
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the fact that we all have
the potential within us
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to be monstrous.
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♪
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There's that trailer,
it's called "Dead Island,"
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it was a video game and you
see this kind of freaky girl
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attacking an older man and then
it kind of all goes in reverse
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ending with it being
like a family vacation
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and they're taking
a photo together.
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You realize it was his daughter
that he's beating with a bat.
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(laughing)
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00:24:20,876 --> 00:24:21,943
It was pretty awesome.
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00:24:21,977 --> 00:24:24,713
I dreamt about them last night,
I dreamt about them.
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00:24:24,746 --> 00:24:28,517
I thought making "Shaun
of the Dead" would stop
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my recurring dreams about
zombies, but it hasn't.
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I still occasionally have
a dream where I'm in
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that classic situation where
they're outside the house
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and I can't get away
and it's fucking terrifying.
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"Shaun" happened because
Edgar Wright and myself
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were making a TV show, "Spaced."
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The beginning of one of
the episodes starts with me
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lost in the game "Resident Evil"
and it was just a very sort of
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sneaky way to enable myself
to shoot some zombies.
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00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:01,183
They totally captured that
feeling of Romero's films,
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that shambolic zombie.
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00:25:02,417 --> 00:25:04,252
It looked like they'd almost
watched those movies
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to get the way those
creatures moved.
463
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It really ignited that
sort of love in me again,
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and Edgar as well, and
we started talking about
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"Dawn of the Dead" and
how much we loved it
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and then we had
"Dawn of the Dead" on set,
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and we were like, we should
make a zombie film.
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Well, I have to say that
"Shaun of the Dead" was probably
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my favorite zombie film
that wasn't made by me.
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I think "Shaun of the Dead"
is probably
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the second most important
zombie film ever made
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because of the
social commentary.
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It encapsulates an
entire generation
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of young English people
in the very same way
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Kevin Smith's "Clerks"
encapsulated my generation.
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Forget zombies, I think if
you just were going to look
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at a movie that put that
generation through a lens,
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that's "Shaun of the Dead."
479
00:25:59,741 --> 00:26:01,543
The "Walking Dead" came about
because of my love
480
00:26:01,576 --> 00:26:06,481
of George Romero films and
zombie movies in general.
481
00:26:06,514 --> 00:26:09,517
Most zombie films end with
either all of the characters
482
00:26:09,551 --> 00:26:12,387
dying or two or three of
the characters living,
483
00:26:12,420 --> 00:26:14,889
while all of the others die
and they kind of ride off
484
00:26:14,923 --> 00:26:17,158
into the sunset and you
never know where they go.
485
00:26:17,192 --> 00:26:20,328
The "Walking Dead"
was devised as
486
00:26:20,362 --> 00:26:23,531
the zombie movie
that never ends.
487
00:26:23,565 --> 00:26:28,470
I will plainly say that Bram
Stoker is to Stephenie Meyer
488
00:26:28,503 --> 00:26:30,705
as George Romero is
to Robert Kirkman.
489
00:26:30,739 --> 00:26:33,074
There is no "Walking Dead"
without "Night of the Living
490
00:26:33,108 --> 00:26:35,877
Dead," "Dawn of the Dead,"
"Day of the Dead."
491
00:26:35,910 --> 00:26:37,312
I definitely owe that guy.
492
00:26:40,649 --> 00:26:43,885
When Ben comes out of that house
at the end of
493
00:26:43,918 --> 00:26:46,888
"Night of the Living Dead," and
you think he's getting rescued
494
00:26:46,921 --> 00:26:49,224
and instead he gets shot...
495
00:26:49,257 --> 00:26:51,126
Okay, he's dead.
Let's go get him.
496
00:26:51,159 --> 00:26:52,861
That's another one
for the farm.
497
00:26:52,894 --> 00:26:54,796
...the sinking feeling
that that gives you,
498
00:26:54,829 --> 00:26:58,433
the sense of loss,
definitely inspires the way
499
00:26:58,466 --> 00:27:01,069
that I want to mess
with expectations.
500
00:27:01,102 --> 00:27:05,340
If characters weren't dying
constantly in a zombie story,
501
00:27:05,373 --> 00:27:08,376
in an apocalyptic story,
it would be completely false
502
00:27:08,410 --> 00:27:11,713
and fake and unrealistic and
it'd be complete bullshit
503
00:27:11,746 --> 00:27:14,249
and there are times when I'm
writing a "Walking Dead" comic
504
00:27:14,282 --> 00:27:17,319
where I'll go, wait a minute,
it's been like ten issues
505
00:27:17,352 --> 00:27:18,620
and no one's died.
506
00:27:18,653 --> 00:27:21,423
This sucks, someone's
got to die this issue.
507
00:27:21,456 --> 00:27:25,994
People gots to die,
otherwise it's just dull.
508
00:27:29,164 --> 00:27:32,434
Because the zombie was kind of
organically created by different
509
00:27:32,467 --> 00:27:36,938
people, I think filmmakers and
authors and video game designers
510
00:27:36,971 --> 00:27:40,809
feel they have a great deal of
liberty with what a zombie is,
511
00:27:40,842 --> 00:27:43,211
so we can have
zombies that are dead,
512
00:27:43,244 --> 00:27:45,413
but we can also have
zombies that are alive.
513
00:27:45,447 --> 00:27:47,816
You can have zombies that drink
blood, but you can also have
514
00:27:47,849 --> 00:27:50,585
zombies that eat flesh
or just eat brains.
515
00:27:50,618 --> 00:27:52,253
You can have zombies
that are weak,
516
00:27:52,287 --> 00:27:55,690
you can have zombies that are
super strong, some zombies talk,
517
00:27:55,724 --> 00:28:00,362
most don't, some can
feel things, some can't.
518
00:28:00,395 --> 00:28:03,064
That movie "Wall-E,"
you know, the Pixar movie,
519
00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:05,400
I feel like that's kind of
a zombie movie, you know,
520
00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:07,969
when he goes up and the robot
finds all the earthlings
521
00:28:08,002 --> 00:28:11,639
that are just these fat blobs
hooked up to machines.
522
00:28:11,673 --> 00:28:14,542
Those are G-rated,
benevolent zombies.
523
00:28:14,576 --> 00:28:18,146
(screaming)
524
00:28:22,517 --> 00:28:24,486
We got into this
idea in "Reanimator,"
525
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:27,455
that when they're reanimated,
that it somehow frees their
526
00:28:27,489 --> 00:28:30,658
libido and so that's
kind of what Dr. Hill is.
527
00:28:30,692 --> 00:28:33,628
This is a guy who is lusting
after the dean's daughter,
528
00:28:33,661 --> 00:28:39,100
but never was able to really
act on it until he's reanimated
529
00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:41,736
and in the course of the movie,
he converts himself as
530
00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:43,605
the improved Dr. Hill.
531
00:28:43,638 --> 00:28:47,442
In a way, it's a more
honest doctor.
532
00:28:47,475 --> 00:28:50,311
He almost breaks the
rules of the zombie
533
00:28:50,345 --> 00:28:53,548
because he has a stronger
idea of who he is.
534
00:28:53,581 --> 00:28:56,684
Deadites and zombies are
from different families,
535
00:28:56,718 --> 00:28:58,353
different species.
536
00:28:58,386 --> 00:29:01,289
A deadite is someone
who isn't necessarily dead,
537
00:29:01,322 --> 00:29:02,924
they just got possessed.
538
00:29:02,957 --> 00:29:05,593
It's weird, in "Evil Dead,"
we have both.
539
00:29:05,627 --> 00:29:08,897
In "Army of Darkness,"
we have an army of the dead,
540
00:29:08,930 --> 00:29:11,566
skeletons coming back
and they get to talk.
541
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,902
I don't know how they do that
without a larynx, but you know.
542
00:29:13,935 --> 00:29:15,804
Bring on the wench!
543
00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:17,472
I think with like "Army of
Darkness," you didn't want
544
00:29:17,505 --> 00:29:20,008
to be alive or dead, you didn't
even want to be in that movie
545
00:29:20,041 --> 00:29:22,811
if you weren't Ash, because
everyone else is dead
546
00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:24,779
or possessed ultimately.
547
00:29:24,813 --> 00:29:27,615
Anybody that argues that because
something is alive can't be
548
00:29:27,649 --> 00:29:30,151
a zombie, obviously doesn't
remember the history
549
00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:32,654
about voodoo zombies
and how it all started.
550
00:29:32,687 --> 00:29:34,823
So I count the infected.
551
00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:36,291
Even though Danny Boyle
would say he didn't make
552
00:29:36,324 --> 00:29:38,960
a zombie movie,
but I'm sorry, he's wrong.
553
00:29:38,993 --> 00:29:40,695
He actually made a zombie movie.
554
00:29:42,397 --> 00:29:44,732
So the word zombie, as we spell
it in English, is pretty close
555
00:29:44,766 --> 00:29:48,403
to the Haitian/French "zombi,"
with just a terminal "I"
556
00:29:48,436 --> 00:29:51,706
and it probably comes
from a Congolese word,
557
00:29:51,739 --> 00:29:54,909
"Nzambi" with an "N."
558
00:29:54,943 --> 00:29:58,046
WOMAN: In some places,
there is a God named Nzambi.
559
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:00,448
There was a revolutionary
hero named Nzambi.
560
00:30:00,482 --> 00:30:02,884
Some people have associated it
with a type of bird.
561
00:30:02,917 --> 00:30:06,187
Other people say there's
a plant called zombie.
562
00:30:06,221 --> 00:30:14,229
The zombie is somebody who
was supposed to be dead,
563
00:30:14,262 --> 00:30:16,331
but who's not.
564
00:30:16,364 --> 00:30:20,168
The origin of the zombie
in Africa was a separation
565
00:30:20,201 --> 00:30:25,073
of spirit from body and being
stuck in the mortal world.
566
00:30:25,106 --> 00:30:28,276
WOMAN: Dutch slavers,
Portuguese slavers heard tales
567
00:30:28,309 --> 00:30:31,045
of these fears that
the people had that
568
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:35,416
witch doctors were capable
of stealing their souls.
569
00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:37,685
They would steal
a person's soul,
570
00:30:37,719 --> 00:30:39,521
put it in some kind of vessel,
571
00:30:39,554 --> 00:30:44,158
and then the body would keep
laboring for the witch doctor.
572
00:30:44,192 --> 00:30:47,829
Somewhere around
the colony of San Domingue,
573
00:30:47,862 --> 00:30:52,033
around the Haitian Revolution
of 1800, the word zombie
574
00:30:52,066 --> 00:30:54,636
and the soul capture
mythology come together
575
00:30:54,669 --> 00:30:56,538
and from that point on,
we're talking about
576
00:30:56,571 --> 00:30:59,140
the zombie as
a walking corpse.
577
00:31:00,742 --> 00:31:04,379
Zombification is just one of
the things they do as a form of
578
00:31:04,412 --> 00:31:10,552
punishment, where you go into a
form of slavery never to return.
579
00:31:10,585 --> 00:31:14,989
EMERANTE: Since he doesn't have
any life, they think he's dead.
580
00:31:15,023 --> 00:31:17,125
They bury the person.
581
00:31:17,158 --> 00:31:20,161
He has a certain
time to wake up.
582
00:31:20,194 --> 00:31:23,731
They take the person
out of where he is buried.
583
00:31:23,765 --> 00:31:32,473
He's still half awake and
half dead and that's a zombie.
584
00:31:33,708 --> 00:31:37,579
If you want to understand what
is a zombie, it is somebody
585
00:31:37,612 --> 00:31:44,285
who has one part of his identity
that has been torn down.
586
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,822
You have a part of your
intelligence that's like a
587
00:31:47,855 --> 00:31:52,293
window and when it's torn down,
you lose your will,
588
00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:56,230
and that will lead the will
of doing bad things to others,
589
00:31:56,264 --> 00:31:59,467
and this is what Hollywood
has not understood
590
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,904
is he cannot do harm.
591
00:32:02,937 --> 00:32:08,309
In other places, people who
commit crimes are usually put
592
00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:13,681
in a gas chamber or they are
killed by the electric chair,
593
00:32:13,715 --> 00:32:15,750
which to me is horrible.
594
00:32:15,783 --> 00:32:22,957
In fact, it is desecrating
the human being because
595
00:32:22,991 --> 00:32:26,728
a human being should be treated
with respect all the time.
596
00:32:26,761 --> 00:32:32,200
To me, zombification
is something spiritual.
597
00:32:38,139 --> 00:32:42,577
Wade Davis famously went down
from Harvard as an ethnobotanist
598
00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:45,780
and he did some research into
what could possibly be
599
00:32:45,813 --> 00:32:50,018
the scientific origins
of this tradition.
600
00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:53,154
SARAH: Davis theorized that
it was actually possible
601
00:32:53,187 --> 00:32:57,425
with a poison, it's called
tetrodotoxin, to poison someone,
602
00:32:57,458 --> 00:33:00,328
give them the appearance of
death that was so believable
603
00:33:00,361 --> 00:33:03,331
that you could then have them
buried, have a funeral for them,
604
00:33:03,364 --> 00:33:07,468
dig them up later, and then keep
them in a kind of comatose state
605
00:33:07,502 --> 00:33:10,538
so that they would only be able
to do the most basic commands,
606
00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:13,374
so that, in effect, you could
keep them as a slave,
607
00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:15,476
as a slave that people
would perceive to be
608
00:33:15,510 --> 00:33:18,846
nothing but the walking dead.
609
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,617
KYLE: We have evidence that
people being turned into zombies
610
00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:25,753
was a real problem in Haiti
because part of the Haitian
611
00:33:25,787 --> 00:33:29,724
criminal code actually
has a law against
612
00:33:29,757 --> 00:33:31,459
turning people into zombies.
613
00:33:31,492 --> 00:33:33,294
It's actually on their books.
614
00:33:33,327 --> 00:33:37,632
It is illegal to poison someone,
bring them back,
615
00:33:37,665 --> 00:33:40,835
and sell them as slaves.
616
00:33:40,868 --> 00:33:43,171
SARAH: Even though we think of
this as an American monster,
617
00:33:43,204 --> 00:33:45,106
this is part of
a bigger mythology,
618
00:33:45,139 --> 00:33:48,509
one that isn't uniquely ours,
but is more global, one that
619
00:33:48,543 --> 00:33:52,313
really comes to us from Africa,
and from its inception,
620
00:33:52,346 --> 00:33:56,617
is very much about slavery and
from its sort of pivotal turn
621
00:33:56,651 --> 00:34:01,456
it makes in Haiti, becomes
a lot about slave rebellion.
622
00:34:05,259 --> 00:34:06,761
Damn Zombies.
623
00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:10,364
These nails cost me $2.49 a box.
624
00:34:10,398 --> 00:34:13,201
It's a good thing I had all
this scrap wood though.
625
00:34:13,234 --> 00:34:14,635
Well, that's that.
626
00:34:14,669 --> 00:34:17,638
I wonder if these zombies are
going to be the fast ones
627
00:34:17,672 --> 00:34:19,173
or the slow ones.
628
00:34:19,207 --> 00:34:21,943
I hope they're the slow ones
because I'm an old man.
629
00:34:21,976 --> 00:34:22,977
Oh, there's one now.
630
00:34:23,010 --> 00:34:25,313
Oh great, they're
the fast zombies.
631
00:34:25,346 --> 00:34:26,547
That's no good for me.
632
00:34:26,581 --> 00:34:28,549
Oh, wait a minute,
it's just a jogger.
633
00:34:28,583 --> 00:34:30,017
Whew...
634
00:34:30,051 --> 00:34:33,020
Well, that's good, but that
still doesn't answer my question
635
00:34:33,054 --> 00:34:35,223
whether or not
the zombies are fast ones.
636
00:34:35,256 --> 00:34:37,525
Oh, I guess they're slow ones.
637
00:34:37,558 --> 00:34:40,628
Well, that's good news for me
that they're slow ones, but
638
00:34:40,661 --> 00:34:44,966
wait, if you could just run away
from slow zombies with ease,
639
00:34:44,999 --> 00:34:48,536
then why aren't all new zombies
old people like me?
640
00:34:48,569 --> 00:34:52,273
In fact, how does a slow zombie
outbreak even get out of control
641
00:34:52,306 --> 00:34:53,975
in the first place?
642
00:34:54,008 --> 00:34:56,978
Now I could maybe see a slow
zombie outbreak getting out of
643
00:34:57,011 --> 00:35:01,182
control in a densely occupied
apartment building, but way out
644
00:35:01,215 --> 00:35:04,652
in the country where there's
just so much distance
645
00:35:04,685 --> 00:35:07,355
in between the infected
and the living?
646
00:35:07,388 --> 00:35:09,056
Well, not so much.
647
00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:14,295
STEVEN: The slow versus
fast debate is one of
648
00:35:14,328 --> 00:35:16,798
my very favorites
in zombie worlds.
649
00:35:16,831 --> 00:35:18,032
I'm partial to the slow zombies.
650
00:35:18,065 --> 00:35:19,834
I actually think
they're way scarier.
651
00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:21,369
If something's fast and
it's running after you,
652
00:35:21,402 --> 00:35:22,637
you just got to run.
653
00:35:22,670 --> 00:35:25,706
If someone is slow and shambling
towards you, you wait because
654
00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:27,775
we have this desire that
it's still human, right?
655
00:35:27,809 --> 00:35:30,244
Like you think, that looks like
my girlfriend, still looks like
656
00:35:30,278 --> 00:35:32,413
my girlfriend, she's stumbling
a little bit, but maybe
657
00:35:32,446 --> 00:35:34,415
it's my girlfriend with a broken
ankle, you don't know,
658
00:35:34,448 --> 00:35:36,684
and you let her get just
a little bit too close.
659
00:35:36,717 --> 00:35:38,219
All you've got to do is walk
slightly faster than her,
660
00:35:38,252 --> 00:35:39,921
but you don't.
661
00:35:39,954 --> 00:35:42,390
MAX: The slow zombie gives me
time to think about
662
00:35:42,423 --> 00:35:43,925
how I'm going to die.
663
00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:46,561
It's the difference between
getting shot and getting cancer.
664
00:35:46,594 --> 00:35:49,664
It's about considering all
those horrific possibilities.
665
00:35:50,665 --> 00:35:53,434
SIMON: The whole fast zombie
thing just misses the point.
666
00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:55,436
By removing any aggression from
them, by stopping them from
667
00:35:55,469 --> 00:35:58,873
being almost like screechy
and raptors running at you,
668
00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:03,377
they've become something
you can project depth onto.
669
00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:05,179
That's what's so great
about slow zombies is that
670
00:36:05,213 --> 00:36:07,615
you're given time
to get to know them
671
00:36:07,648 --> 00:36:10,518
before you shoot them
in the head.
672
00:36:10,551 --> 00:36:14,088
I do have a whole new level of
respect for horror film actors,
673
00:36:14,121 --> 00:36:18,426
but especially zombie horror
film actors because when they're
674
00:36:18,459 --> 00:36:22,096
slow, you really have to sell
the fear, you know what I mean?
675
00:36:22,129 --> 00:36:26,467
You have to sort of like create
scenarios in which you don't get
676
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:30,004
away from these people that are
moving at the pace of a snail.
677
00:36:30,037 --> 00:36:31,739
Somebody once asked me,
would you write a zombie
678
00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:33,040
survival guide for fast zombies?
679
00:36:33,074 --> 00:36:34,375
I'm like, yeah, it would be
a pamphlet that we'd call
680
00:36:34,408 --> 00:36:35,676
"Kiss your ass goodbye."
681
00:36:35,710 --> 00:36:37,678
(laughter)
682
00:36:37,712 --> 00:36:42,083
I would argue that potentially
"Shaun of the Dead" had a lot
683
00:36:42,116 --> 00:36:47,221
of influence in kind of killing
the slow zombie in movies.
684
00:36:47,255 --> 00:36:50,491
If you have two bumbling idiots
who can throw records at zombies
685
00:36:50,524 --> 00:36:53,628
and sort of accidentally kill
them, it sort of causes problems
686
00:36:53,661 --> 00:36:56,030
in terms of trying to make
the slow zombie really scary.
687
00:36:56,063 --> 00:36:57,798
TOM: This makes me
think of when I directed
688
00:36:57,832 --> 00:37:00,568
"Night of the Living Dead,"
we hired a movement instructor
689
00:37:00,601 --> 00:37:02,870
because my idea was
if you're a zombie,
690
00:37:02,904 --> 00:37:06,207
then you leave your body.
691
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:09,043
It's like if your body is hung
on a fence and something comes
692
00:37:09,076 --> 00:37:12,747
and takes over the body, that's
never moved a human body before
693
00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:16,717
and tries to move and walk,
but it was laughable.
694
00:37:16,751 --> 00:37:21,422
People were doing all kinds
of stupid weird shit with it.
695
00:37:21,455 --> 00:37:24,625
Just walk slow, okay,
just walk slow.
696
00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:26,928
Because as you know, George
Romero believes in slow zombies.
697
00:37:26,961 --> 00:37:29,597
He sells bumper stickers
that say, "Fast Zombies Suck."
698
00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:34,969
My basic objection to fast
zombies is that it's impossible!
699
00:37:35,002 --> 00:37:36,871
If they're dead,
if they're dead.
700
00:37:36,904 --> 00:37:38,539
SIMON: You know, there's an
argument that Bill Hingmen,
701
00:37:38,572 --> 00:37:40,675
who played the very first zombie
in "Night of the Living Dead,"
702
00:37:40,708 --> 00:37:42,710
he was pretty spritely
as a zombie.
703
00:37:42,743 --> 00:37:45,413
He wasn't moving
particularly slowly.
704
00:37:45,446 --> 00:37:48,816
The beginning of zombie
evolution started with
705
00:37:48,849 --> 00:37:51,919
quite a quick-footed zombie
to be honest.
706
00:37:51,953 --> 00:37:53,988
GEORGE: When we were making
"Night of the Living Dead,"
707
00:37:54,021 --> 00:37:57,692
we had no sense of rules.
708
00:37:57,725 --> 00:38:02,396
It wasn't until I finally agreed
to do another one that I said,
709
00:38:02,430 --> 00:38:06,334
well wait, we've got to have
a little process going in.
710
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:07,835
We have to have something.
711
00:38:09,036 --> 00:38:13,240
I know that Bill moves pretty
quickly so I think I've sort of
712
00:38:13,274 --> 00:38:17,011
violated my own rules there,
but I wasn't even...
713
00:38:17,044 --> 00:38:18,579
I didn't even have rules then.
714
00:38:18,612 --> 00:38:23,150
Zombie purists sometimes
can get quite adamant
715
00:38:23,184 --> 00:38:24,885
about their feelings.
716
00:38:24,919 --> 00:38:31,292
I had a woman one time chastise
me for making my living
717
00:38:31,325 --> 00:38:37,598
in horror and not knowing
that zombies don't eat brains.
718
00:38:37,631 --> 00:38:40,534
These movies come out and we get
these like really particular
719
00:38:40,568 --> 00:38:44,238
zombie enthusiasts that will rip
them apart on a message board.
720
00:38:44,271 --> 00:38:47,808
I'm like, come on guys,
it's a porno.
721
00:38:47,842 --> 00:38:50,978
S.G.: The zombie purists want
their zombies to be slow and
722
00:38:51,012 --> 00:38:54,248
shambling and I like to say that
they get kind of Dr. Seuss
723
00:38:54,281 --> 00:38:56,217
"Green Eggs and Ham"
about their zombies...
724
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,185
They do not like them when
they run, they do not like them
725
00:38:58,219 --> 00:39:00,087
when they're fun, they do not
like them with a heart,
726
00:39:00,121 --> 00:39:01,455
they do not like them
to be smart.
727
00:39:01,489 --> 00:39:04,892
They just want them to be slow
and shambling and mindless.
728
00:39:04,925 --> 00:39:07,762
Fast zombies, slow zombies,
if zombies want to shoot lasers
729
00:39:07,795 --> 00:39:09,663
out of their eyes and
it works in the story,
730
00:39:09,697 --> 00:39:10,898
I think that's fantastic.
731
00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:12,433
If you're a dead guy and you're
walking around, maybe you're
732
00:39:12,466 --> 00:39:14,769
eating people, maybe you're not
eating people, I don't know.
733
00:39:14,802 --> 00:39:17,371
If you're a dead guy walking
around, you're a zombie.
734
00:39:17,405 --> 00:39:20,408
For me, "28 Days Later" was
the first time I saw them
735
00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:23,511
sped up and I just thought
that was genius.
736
00:39:23,544 --> 00:39:25,146
How did we not think
of this sooner?
737
00:39:25,179 --> 00:39:28,449
Zombies have been around forever
and no one has ever thought
738
00:39:28,482 --> 00:39:29,850
to just make them sprint.
739
00:39:29,884 --> 00:39:31,519
I mean, why wouldn't they?
740
00:39:31,552 --> 00:39:34,155
If they want the food,
they just fucking go get it.
741
00:39:34,188 --> 00:39:36,090
So that was truly terrifying.
742
00:39:36,123 --> 00:39:39,193
I don't think there was anything
charming about those zombies.
743
00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:41,929
Fuck fast zombies.
744
00:39:41,962 --> 00:39:44,465
I fucking hate fast zombies.
745
00:39:44,498 --> 00:39:45,499
I hate them.
746
00:39:45,533 --> 00:39:48,502
Now "28 Days Later" --
not a zombie movie.
747
00:39:48,536 --> 00:39:53,707
Infection, those people were
infected, they aren't dead,
748
00:39:53,741 --> 00:39:56,177
so not a zombie movie,
just for the record.
749
00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:58,479
Slow zombies don't cut it
for us often anymore.
750
00:39:58,512 --> 00:40:00,781
Our fears are more intense.
751
00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:02,283
The world is faster.
752
00:40:02,316 --> 00:40:03,884
Our technology is faster.
753
00:40:03,918 --> 00:40:07,221
We need a faster zombie and
I think a great example of it
754
00:40:07,254 --> 00:40:09,190
is bringing us all the way
up to the present day
755
00:40:09,223 --> 00:40:11,992
and the "World War Z" film
adaptation, where you see
756
00:40:12,026 --> 00:40:18,232
a virtual tsunami of zombie
bodies just rushing mindlessly,
757
00:40:18,265 --> 00:40:20,067
they're not even human anymore,
758
00:40:20,101 --> 00:40:22,436
they're not even distinguishable
as individuals.
759
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:27,441
They're just a mass of flesh
just washing over us.
760
00:40:27,475 --> 00:40:29,243
So I was asked to be
a scientific consultant
761
00:40:29,276 --> 00:40:30,945
on "World War Z."
762
00:40:30,978 --> 00:40:34,248
I had to remit to think
about zombies as if
763
00:40:34,281 --> 00:40:35,950
they were the product
of natural selection.
764
00:40:35,983 --> 00:40:39,120
If natural selection is at play,
we should expect to see very,
765
00:40:39,153 --> 00:40:40,488
very different things.
766
00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:42,723
We should expect to see
cooperative behavior
767
00:40:42,756 --> 00:40:44,825
among zombies.
768
00:40:44,859 --> 00:40:47,628
So before they get bitten,
they're individual humans
769
00:40:47,661 --> 00:40:50,564
with individual interests and
different genetic relatedness,
770
00:40:50,598 --> 00:40:52,099
so they should be selfish.
771
00:40:52,133 --> 00:40:55,569
Once they're bitten, it doesn't
matter which zombie bites
772
00:40:55,603 --> 00:40:59,039
the next human, so long as
the virus gets there.
773
00:40:59,073 --> 00:41:02,543
We see many examples in nature
of groups of organisms
774
00:41:02,576 --> 00:41:07,348
moving more quickly when the
individual desire is subjugated
775
00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:09,884
to the success of the group.
776
00:41:14,922 --> 00:41:19,260
You know, the milestone in
zombie culture is the failure
777
00:41:19,293 --> 00:41:21,762
of the producer of
"Night of the Living Dead"
778
00:41:21,795 --> 00:41:25,332
to renew the copyright because
what that did is it put
779
00:41:25,366 --> 00:41:28,602
the picture in public domain and
meant that it was going to play
780
00:41:28,636 --> 00:41:34,642
on every cable TV station and
every midnight movie possible.
781
00:41:34,675 --> 00:41:38,779
Anybody who had a videotape of
that film could put it on
782
00:41:38,812 --> 00:41:41,882
their local television station
and play it on Halloween
783
00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:45,152
or at midnight, and they did,
and so many other imitators
784
00:41:45,186 --> 00:41:48,422
came along and parody
filmmakers came along.
785
00:41:48,455 --> 00:41:50,591
Kill the brain,
kill the brain.
786
00:41:50,624 --> 00:41:51,692
Lock and load.
787
00:41:55,563 --> 00:41:57,998
And even great filmmakers
like David Cronenberg
788
00:41:58,032 --> 00:42:00,134
owe an enormous debt to Romero,
789
00:42:00,167 --> 00:42:02,770
an enormous debt to the
"Night of the Living Dead."
790
00:42:02,803 --> 00:42:06,473
Zombies are definitely part
of mainstream culture now.
791
00:42:06,507 --> 00:42:08,309
I mean, there can hardly
be anybody left,
792
00:42:08,342 --> 00:42:10,744
at least in the
English speaking world,
793
00:42:10,778 --> 00:42:14,148
who hasn't seen a
zombie movie by now.
794
00:42:14,181 --> 00:42:18,052
I think the advent of video
games and third-person
795
00:42:18,085 --> 00:42:21,088
shoot 'em up games
did more for the zombie genre
796
00:42:21,121 --> 00:42:23,490
than a couple movies even.
797
00:42:23,524 --> 00:42:26,260
I mean, I bought a Sega just
so I could have one of those
798
00:42:26,293 --> 00:42:29,897
shitty orange guns and
I could shoot at zombies.
799
00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:31,632
Zombies have even infected
video games that are not
800
00:42:31,665 --> 00:42:32,933
zombie video games.
801
00:42:32,967 --> 00:42:35,436
The "Call of Duty" franchise
is probably the most famous
802
00:42:35,469 --> 00:42:38,072
which has banked through
its last few iterations
803
00:42:38,105 --> 00:42:40,941
on zombie mode as being
one of its big draws.
804
00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:43,477
When zombies are so popular
that they're going to shoehorn
805
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:47,214
zombies into non-zombie games,
we know that we've reached
806
00:42:47,248 --> 00:42:51,385
a point of saturation in our
culture, triumph of the zombies.
807
00:42:51,418 --> 00:42:55,155
GEORGE: You could put on
"Sesame Street," a zombie,
808
00:42:55,189 --> 00:42:57,524
and kids would know what it was.
809
00:42:57,558 --> 00:43:00,527
Kids would know what it was,
a zombie, oh yeah.
810
00:43:00,561 --> 00:43:04,398
Zombies don't eat meat
because they can't have meat.
811
00:43:04,431 --> 00:43:06,367
They only eat your brains.
812
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,102
When they eat your brains,
813
00:43:08,135 --> 00:43:13,907
the human brains
come in their brains.
814
00:43:13,941 --> 00:43:16,210
STEVEN: So in the last probably
two and a half, three years,
815
00:43:16,243 --> 00:43:19,980
they've gone from an underground
rabid cult following --
816
00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:22,516
people love them --
to this huge pop culture
817
00:43:22,549 --> 00:43:23,584
mainstream following.
818
00:43:23,617 --> 00:43:25,119
You just got to put the word
zombie on something
819
00:43:25,152 --> 00:43:26,587
and it sells.
820
00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:28,856
What if say technically
you were not alive,
821
00:43:28,889 --> 00:43:31,258
like maybe you
were undead?
822
00:43:31,292 --> 00:43:32,393
Like a zombie?
823
00:43:32,426 --> 00:43:34,795
Whoa, let's not go
putting labels on people.
824
00:43:37,398 --> 00:43:38,732
I'm a zombie.
825
00:43:38,766 --> 00:43:40,367
I'm here to tell you
how to best prepare
826
00:43:40,401 --> 00:43:42,169
for the zombie apocalypse.
827
00:43:42,202 --> 00:43:44,438
Don't be afraid to
bash our heads in.
828
00:43:44,471 --> 00:43:49,677
We could easily be taken out
with a well-thrown rock...
829
00:43:49,710 --> 00:43:52,546
or a two-by-four.
830
00:43:52,579 --> 00:43:54,848
You want to know the best way
to survive the apocalypse?
831
00:43:54,882 --> 00:43:58,085
Get the right health insurance.
832
00:43:58,118 --> 00:44:00,921
This interview with a zombie
brought to you by the good folks
833
00:44:00,954 --> 00:44:03,324
at Rocky Mountain Health Plans.
834
00:44:03,357 --> 00:44:06,260
You see them in commercials now,
you see them in movie
835
00:44:06,293 --> 00:44:09,330
theatre ads, I mean,
zombies are everywhere, man.
836
00:44:09,363 --> 00:44:12,099
You want to talk about when is
the zombie apocalypse coming?
837
00:44:12,132 --> 00:44:13,567
It's here.
838
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,636
No! It's Zombie-Con weekend!
839
00:44:15,669 --> 00:44:17,438
(screaming)
840
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,475
There's got to be
more of us out there.
841
00:44:25,012 --> 00:44:27,348
No! No!
842
00:44:31,919 --> 00:44:34,822
The number one show on cable
that beat our show,
843
00:44:34,855 --> 00:44:38,225
"Burn Notice," which was
the number one show on cable,
844
00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:39,893
is zombies.
845
00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:53,340
How we got to be so
popular is blind luck.
846
00:44:53,374 --> 00:44:55,309
It's as simple as that.
847
00:44:55,342 --> 00:45:00,114
Somehow we managed to tap in
on some sort of public zeitgeist
848
00:45:00,147 --> 00:45:05,853
that wanted this sort of product
at that sort of time.
849
00:45:05,886 --> 00:45:09,523
I'll meet somebody on the street
and a guy will come up and say,
850
00:45:09,556 --> 00:45:12,259
oh my God, I love "The Walking
Dead," stay right here,
851
00:45:12,292 --> 00:45:15,529
and he'll run over and he'll
bring his wife over and his wife
852
00:45:15,562 --> 00:45:19,233
will be more excited about
"The Walking Dead" than he is!
853
00:45:19,266 --> 00:45:20,868
I've always been uncomfortable
with the success of
854
00:45:20,901 --> 00:45:22,302
"The Walking Dead."
855
00:45:22,336 --> 00:45:25,706
When it debuted as a comic, it
was like, oh wait, this thing is
856
00:45:25,739 --> 00:45:28,675
way more popular than it should
be and it just kept getting more
857
00:45:28,709 --> 00:45:31,378
and more popular and then when
the show happened, I honestly
858
00:45:31,412 --> 00:45:33,947
didn't think the show was
going to be successful at all.
859
00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:35,816
I was hoping and praying
that the show would be
860
00:45:35,849 --> 00:45:38,452
just successful enough
to continue.
861
00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:41,221
It honestly makes no
sense to me whatsoever.
862
00:45:41,255 --> 00:45:44,291
I don't know how this show
is as popular as it is.
863
00:45:45,893 --> 00:45:49,396
They're joining the ranks of
the blockbuster pop culture
864
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:52,766
icons, like superheroes
and action heroes.
865
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,935
S.G.: Werewolves are kind of
like the jocks of monsters.
866
00:45:54,968 --> 00:45:57,204
They're full of testosterone
and sprouting hair all over
867
00:45:57,237 --> 00:46:01,175
the place and full of rage and
screaming and running around.
868
00:46:01,208 --> 00:46:04,111
Vampires are kind of
like the fraternity boys.
869
00:46:04,144 --> 00:46:07,548
They're always sort of suave and
slick and trying to convince you
870
00:46:07,581 --> 00:46:11,051
to get into bed with them
so they can drink your blood,
871
00:46:11,084 --> 00:46:13,220
and zombies are kind of like
the nerds and the geeks,
872
00:46:13,253 --> 00:46:15,756
you know, they don't
get the girls,
873
00:46:15,789 --> 00:46:17,891
but they don't have
any ulterior motives.
874
00:46:17,925 --> 00:46:19,226
They wear their emotions
on their sleeves.
875
00:46:19,259 --> 00:46:21,228
They say, I am a zombie and
I want to eat your brains.
876
00:46:21,261 --> 00:46:24,064
It's a monster that's
completely honest.
877
00:46:24,097 --> 00:46:29,670
A vampire seduces, a zombie
feeds, a zombie goes after you,
878
00:46:29,703 --> 00:46:31,638
and some people,
they're turned on by that.
879
00:46:31,672 --> 00:46:33,574
They're turned on by
relentless desire.
880
00:46:33,607 --> 00:46:35,943
They want to be desired
like nothing else.
881
00:46:35,976 --> 00:46:39,646
You know, nobody wants to be
raped in real life but a lot of
882
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,916
people have rape fantasies
and sex with the zombie
883
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:44,551
is probably the ultimate rape.
884
00:46:47,287 --> 00:46:49,456
Shit, another walker.
885
00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:51,925
Don't worry,
I got this one.
886
00:46:51,959 --> 00:46:55,095
No Glenn, put
your dick away.
887
00:46:55,128 --> 00:46:58,465
It is tough to make a zombie
porn because you kind of
888
00:46:58,499 --> 00:47:04,404
have to violate every law of
porn and then you're also,
889
00:47:04,438 --> 00:47:07,608
at the same time, violating
all these zombie laws.
890
00:47:09,309 --> 00:47:10,978
It's been some day,
hasn't it, son?
891
00:47:11,011 --> 00:47:12,246
Yeah.
892
00:47:12,279 --> 00:47:15,749
You got lost and then united,
had a threesome with your mom
893
00:47:15,782 --> 00:47:17,784
and my best friend.
894
00:47:17,818 --> 00:47:22,356
Now Carl, I've got to know,
do you have it in you to go over
895
00:47:22,389 --> 00:47:26,627
there and fuck that girl,
and kill her with your cum?
896
00:47:28,362 --> 00:47:30,230
JOANNA: "Walking Dead"
definitely sold the most
897
00:47:30,264 --> 00:47:33,534
out of probably any other porno
we've ever made.
898
00:47:35,802 --> 00:47:39,673
People love playing the role and
I think it is also an element
899
00:47:39,706 --> 00:47:43,610
of domesticating it,
making it safer, making it fun.
900
00:47:43,644 --> 00:47:44,811
Zombie culture has
really blossomed.
901
00:47:44,845 --> 00:47:47,848
You have zombie walks or
zombie crawls, if you prefer,
902
00:47:47,881 --> 00:47:51,585
zombie runs, zombie fashion
shows, zombie beauty shows,
903
00:47:51,618 --> 00:47:53,787
zombie weddings,
zombie engagements,
904
00:47:53,820 --> 00:47:57,524
zombie birthday parties,
zombie car washes.
905
00:47:57,558 --> 00:48:00,193
I would never have let
a zombie wash my car.
906
00:48:00,227 --> 00:48:01,929
(laughter)
907
00:48:04,064 --> 00:48:06,233
Are you ready to
meet your maker?
908
00:48:06,266 --> 00:48:07,901
You're not gonna because
you're gonna come back
909
00:48:07,935 --> 00:48:10,337
to be a flesh eating beast!
910
00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:12,839
Are you ready?
911
00:48:12,873 --> 00:48:15,242
Get ready to tread or die today!
912
00:48:15,275 --> 00:48:21,848
Runners, take your mark,
set, banzai!
913
00:48:21,882 --> 00:48:23,517
Suckers!
914
00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:33,594
♪
915
00:48:33,594 --> 00:48:40,867
♪
916
00:48:40,901 --> 00:48:43,170
I made it! I made it!
I made it! I made it!
917
00:48:50,944 --> 00:48:56,550
I was coming to the first annual
Seattle Zombie-Con and a couple
918
00:48:56,583 --> 00:48:58,518
approached me who were
going to the convention.
919
00:48:58,552 --> 00:49:06,259
They wanted to be married by me
as zombies, and I'm like,
920
00:49:06,293 --> 00:49:10,197
"But you want this
to count, right?"
921
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:12,633
And I thought, you know,
their poor family.
922
00:49:12,666 --> 00:49:15,268
This is a sacred thing,
getting married, you know?
923
00:49:15,302 --> 00:49:18,271
And they're doing this as
zombies and getting the idiot
924
00:49:18,305 --> 00:49:23,844
guy who played Ash to marry them
but then you see their family!
925
00:49:23,877 --> 00:49:26,647
Who gives this zombie woman
to be married to
926
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,316
this lucky zombie man?
927
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:30,584
(growling)
928
00:49:30,617 --> 00:49:35,188
Alright, dad,
go take a nap.
929
00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:38,291
The father couldn't sit down
because he came as a guy who had
930
00:49:38,325 --> 00:49:44,164
a spike that had impaled him and
all the family came as zombies.
931
00:49:44,197 --> 00:49:47,234
Zombies don't think
about what they're doing,
932
00:49:47,267 --> 00:49:50,404
they just do it.
933
00:49:50,437 --> 00:49:52,172
Am I right, zombies?
934
00:49:52,205 --> 00:49:53,840
(cheering)
935
00:49:53,874 --> 00:49:55,976
Come on, you freaks!
936
00:49:56,009 --> 00:49:57,844
Now shut up,
I'm still talking.
937
00:49:57,878 --> 00:50:00,847
Anybody needs zombies married,
I guess I'm your go-to guy,
938
00:50:00,881 --> 00:50:03,617
but I've only performed one
because they're going to get
939
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:07,654
really expensive now because
it's just too weird.
940
00:50:09,856 --> 00:50:13,326
Zombie fans, I think,
are, I don't know,
941
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,830
I can't identify
who zombie fans are.
942
00:50:16,863 --> 00:50:18,532
Who are zombie fans?
943
00:50:18,565 --> 00:50:20,634
Are they fans of the genre?
944
00:50:20,667 --> 00:50:22,436
Are they fans of horror movies?
945
00:50:22,469 --> 00:50:25,906
All these people that come out
for zombie walks, what is it?
946
00:50:25,939 --> 00:50:30,811
What is it that
appeals to zombie fans?
947
00:50:30,844 --> 00:50:34,147
I think that anyone that made
"Dawn of the Dead" would have to
948
00:50:34,181 --> 00:50:37,984
understand what zombie
culture is about.
949
00:50:38,018 --> 00:50:40,754
There is so much in that movie
that's just about humans
950
00:50:40,787 --> 00:50:42,556
and human nature.
951
00:50:42,589 --> 00:50:47,861
You have to know, like,
you have to see that.
952
00:50:47,894 --> 00:50:48,495
I don't know.
953
00:50:48,528 --> 00:50:50,063
That doesn't make sense.
954
00:50:50,097 --> 00:50:51,898
Don't put that in there.
955
00:50:51,932 --> 00:50:54,067
(laughter)
956
00:50:54,101 --> 00:50:57,270
TOM: I've seen a crowd of people
go into the middle of a square
957
00:50:57,304 --> 00:51:01,007
as zombies and then all of
a sudden, "Thriller" will blast
958
00:51:01,041 --> 00:51:02,342
and they all do
the "Thriller" dance,
959
00:51:02,375 --> 00:51:07,080
that I would like to participate
in, but not the zombie walk.
960
00:51:07,114 --> 00:51:08,782
I don't get it,
I'm sorry.
961
00:51:08,815 --> 00:51:11,084
Well done to you people
dressed as zombies.
962
00:51:11,118 --> 00:51:13,353
Good for you.
963
00:51:13,386 --> 00:51:14,488
I don't get it.
964
00:51:14,521 --> 00:51:17,324
That would be like me dressing
up as someone with Ebola.
965
00:51:17,357 --> 00:51:19,593
(laughter)
966
00:51:19,626 --> 00:51:20,861
It'd be like, come on.
967
00:51:20,894 --> 00:51:23,563
There's going to be 16,000
people in Denver all walking,
968
00:51:23,597 --> 00:51:25,832
pretending that they have
testicular cancer, come on!
969
00:51:25,866 --> 00:51:27,200
(laughter)
970
00:51:27,234 --> 00:51:29,503
WOMAN: It's nothing new
that zombies walk,
971
00:51:29,536 --> 00:51:30,737
that's just what they do.
972
00:51:30,771 --> 00:51:33,507
And I never say that anyone
ever invented the zombie walk
973
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:38,411
because that's their kind of
monster character.
974
00:51:38,445 --> 00:51:40,747
I think maybe the very first
time I ever dressed up as
975
00:51:40,781 --> 00:51:44,751
a zombie was for the first
annual Denver Zombie Crawl.
976
00:51:44,785 --> 00:51:47,687
There's probably like 15
or 20 people, and I was like,
977
00:51:47,721 --> 00:51:50,824
God, this is so cool!
What a great idea.
978
00:51:50,857 --> 00:51:53,593
We're all going to dress like
zombies and pound on the windows
979
00:51:53,627 --> 00:51:56,062
while people are eating dinner
and this is the coolest thing
980
00:51:56,096 --> 00:51:58,965
ever, and then the next year,
it was like, oh my God,
981
00:51:58,999 --> 00:52:01,902
there's like 50, 75 people --
cool!
982
00:52:01,935 --> 00:52:05,205
And then the next year,
it was hundreds and I think
983
00:52:05,238 --> 00:52:08,775
last year was 15
or 17,000 people --
984
00:52:08,809 --> 00:52:12,145
families, professionals,
children.
985
00:52:12,179 --> 00:52:14,748
It's amazing.
986
00:52:14,781 --> 00:52:17,651
It's a punk thing,
it's almost punk, right?
987
00:52:17,684 --> 00:52:20,320
Making a statement, saying,
I don't want to be part of
988
00:52:20,353 --> 00:52:22,556
this life, I'll be
a part of that life,
989
00:52:22,589 --> 00:52:24,524
but I don't want to be
a part of this life.
990
00:52:24,558 --> 00:52:27,260
I think that's
really what it is.
991
00:52:27,294 --> 00:52:29,496
It's frustration, man.
992
00:52:29,529 --> 00:52:30,897
SARAH:
I mean, it's all in good fun.
993
00:52:30,931 --> 00:52:33,533
It's play, but I feel like
underneath that is a little bit
994
00:52:33,567 --> 00:52:36,603
of danger and there's a message
that's being sent that says,
995
00:52:36,636 --> 00:52:40,674
you know, if we wanted to, we
have the capacity to organize.
996
00:52:40,707 --> 00:52:44,144
Here we just got 10,000 zombies
out in this public square
997
00:52:44,177 --> 00:52:47,447
so I felt like it's a kind of
tacit message to our government.
998
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,683
DR. BLOCK: If you're into
zombies, the zombie walk
999
00:52:49,716 --> 00:52:51,117
is like date night.
1000
00:52:51,151 --> 00:52:53,286
If you're dressed as a zombie,
sometimes that helps,
1001
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,456
especially if you're a
little looks challenged.
1002
00:52:56,489 --> 00:52:59,359
It's very liberating to
be purposefully ugly.
1003
00:52:59,392 --> 00:53:01,094
You can let your Id out.
1004
00:53:01,127 --> 00:53:03,964
WOMAN: I do think corpses
are a little bit attractive.
1005
00:53:03,997 --> 00:53:05,632
I was sitting next
to one earlier
1006
00:53:05,665 --> 00:53:08,101
and I'm going to tell you,
he was pretty handsome.
1007
00:53:08,134 --> 00:53:09,302
I liked holding his hand.
1008
00:53:09,336 --> 00:53:12,973
He was big, kind of buff,
even though he was bony.
1009
00:53:13,006 --> 00:53:15,575
I think people are thinking
too hard these days about,
1010
00:53:15,609 --> 00:53:17,711
"Whoa, what's this
zombie phenomenon?"
1011
00:53:17,744 --> 00:53:20,914
People love to dress up, they
love to be other characters,
1012
00:53:20,947 --> 00:53:22,949
they love to escape
from themselves.
1013
00:53:22,983 --> 00:53:26,086
The costumes are amazing,
they're cinematic,
1014
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:27,254
there's incredible gore.
1015
00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:29,689
There's incredible creativity.
1016
00:53:29,723 --> 00:53:33,460
Where else can you
see a Lego zombie?
1017
00:53:33,493 --> 00:53:35,629
I don't know why people
come out and do it.
1018
00:53:35,662 --> 00:53:39,866
I have to pay union wages
to get them to come.
1019
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:44,838
(laughter and applause)
1020
00:53:44,871 --> 00:53:46,539
I think it's about
getting connected again.
1021
00:53:46,573 --> 00:53:48,475
It's so interesting to me,
like, I see these zombie walks
1022
00:53:48,508 --> 00:53:51,778
and nobody is tweeting
or emailing or texting.
1023
00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:53,580
They're actually talking to
each other and I know that
1024
00:53:53,613 --> 00:53:55,382
sounds a little too peace
and love and all that,
1025
00:53:55,415 --> 00:53:57,784
but it actually reminds me --
I used to follow Grateful Dead
1026
00:53:57,817 --> 00:54:00,320
around when I was in college
and it reminds me the most
1027
00:54:00,353 --> 00:54:01,588
of a Grateful Dead show.
1028
00:54:01,621 --> 00:54:03,623
Not in the way that people are
checked out, but in the way that
1029
00:54:03,657 --> 00:54:05,158
people are actually
nice to each other.
1030
00:54:05,191 --> 00:54:06,660
That doesn't happen very often.
1031
00:54:06,693 --> 00:54:09,229
It doesn't happen at a ballgame,
but it happens when people
1032
00:54:09,262 --> 00:54:12,165
dress up like the walking dead
and walk down the street.
1033
00:54:13,433 --> 00:54:16,036
KYLE: Sometimes it's more fun
to watch the audience
1034
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:19,072
than the participants because
whether they know it or not,
1035
00:54:19,105 --> 00:54:21,942
the audience just
became participants.
1036
00:54:21,975 --> 00:54:24,344
The great thing about the zombie
is, you get bit by a zombie,
1037
00:54:24,377 --> 00:54:27,013
then you're one of them and
you're part of this collective,
1038
00:54:27,047 --> 00:54:28,448
you're part of this hoard.
1039
00:54:28,481 --> 00:54:31,318
Well, zombie fandom
works the same way.
1040
00:54:31,351 --> 00:54:32,953
I think that's kind of
the cool thing that's coming
1041
00:54:32,986 --> 00:54:34,154
from all of this.
1042
00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:38,158
Maybe people are getting a
skinned knee when they're doing
1043
00:54:38,191 --> 00:54:40,860
the zombie obstacle course,
but they're having fun,
1044
00:54:40,894 --> 00:54:43,663
they're having a good time,
so to a very small degree,
1045
00:54:43,697 --> 00:54:45,799
they're improving
people's lives.
1046
00:54:45,832 --> 00:54:47,801
(laughing)
1047
00:55:05,819 --> 00:55:08,321
Bravo 2 to Bravo 1,
switch has been pulled.
1048
00:55:08,355 --> 00:55:10,824
Any change in
situation upstairs?
1049
00:55:10,857 --> 00:55:13,693
That is a negative.
1050
00:55:13,727 --> 00:55:15,996
Carry on your search, over.
1051
00:55:16,029 --> 00:55:20,567
Keep looking down
there, gentlemen.
1052
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,268
(gunshot)
1053
00:55:22,302 --> 00:55:24,170
Bravo 2 to Bravo 1...
1054
00:55:24,204 --> 00:55:26,106
(screaming)
1055
00:55:29,376 --> 00:55:31,578
Bravo 2 to Bravo 1,
come in, over.
1056
00:55:31,611 --> 00:55:34,681
Bravo 1 to Bravo 2,
get your ass up here now!
1057
00:55:34,714 --> 00:55:37,851
Move! Let's go!
1058
00:55:37,884 --> 00:55:40,754
Stay low, watch your heads.
1059
00:55:40,787 --> 00:55:43,690
Single file up the
stairs, gentleman.
1060
00:55:43,723 --> 00:55:45,558
Guys, I need two eyes
on this doorway behind me.
1061
00:55:45,592 --> 00:55:47,727
Make sure it's clear.
1062
00:55:47,761 --> 00:55:49,596
Holy shit!
1063
00:55:49,629 --> 00:55:51,931
What the fuck is that?
1064
00:55:51,965 --> 00:55:54,801
The armor that that thing
has got built into it
1065
00:55:54,834 --> 00:55:56,336
will take a 50 caliber.
1066
00:55:56,369 --> 00:55:59,305
Our shotguns are gonna
do dick and squat.
1067
00:55:59,339 --> 00:56:03,610
Anything happens, you go
there as fast as you can.
1068
00:56:03,643 --> 00:56:05,478
No dicking around, yeah?
1069
00:56:05,512 --> 00:56:14,487
♪
1070
00:56:14,521 --> 00:56:16,790
Move!
1071
00:56:16,823 --> 00:56:20,994
(screaming)
1072
00:56:21,027 --> 00:56:23,530
This is an event where we
provide a total immersive
1073
00:56:23,563 --> 00:56:24,864
zombie experience.
1074
00:56:24,898 --> 00:56:26,266
From the minute they
arrive at the event,
1075
00:56:26,299 --> 00:56:29,035
they are thrown into basically
a narrative storyline.
1076
00:56:29,069 --> 00:56:32,172
Everyone's got an idea
of how they would handle
1077
00:56:32,205 --> 00:56:33,573
a zombie apocalypse.
1078
00:56:33,606 --> 00:56:35,408
We're giving people the
opportunity to try that out.
1079
00:56:35,442 --> 00:56:36,976
(screaming)
1080
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,850
MAX: "The Zombie Survival Guide"
came about during the Y2K scare
1081
00:56:43,883 --> 00:56:45,085
of the late '90s.
1082
00:56:45,118 --> 00:56:47,787
That was a time when people were
starting to prepare for this
1083
00:56:47,821 --> 00:56:52,826
sort of nebulous apocalypse that
they didn't really understand.
1084
00:56:52,859 --> 00:56:55,862
America specifically had been
experiencing the largest
1085
00:56:55,895 --> 00:56:59,132
post-war boom in its history
and times were good, but there
1086
00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:03,703
was this feeling that times were
about to change and all these
1087
00:57:03,736 --> 00:57:07,407
survival guides were coming out
and I noticed that none of them
1088
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,909
were addressing my fears.
1089
00:57:09,943 --> 00:57:13,580
Granted, zombies are not real,
but that certainly didn't stop
1090
00:57:13,613 --> 00:57:15,782
anybody else from publishing
survival guides about all
1091
00:57:15,815 --> 00:57:18,118
the other things that were going
to happen that were not real.
1092
00:57:18,151 --> 00:57:21,154
Zombie movies are essentially
disaster movies and I think
1093
00:57:21,187 --> 00:57:25,125
there has been a sense from 9/11
on, that the system is breaking
1094
00:57:25,158 --> 00:57:28,795
down, and we want to know what
the end game is psychologically.
1095
00:57:28,828 --> 00:57:31,297
We want to know what is all this
leading to and the problem is
1096
00:57:31,331 --> 00:57:35,368
if you watch a movie where the
catalyst for that disaster is
1097
00:57:35,401 --> 00:57:38,371
real, like a real nuclear war
or a real plague or a real
1098
00:57:38,404 --> 00:57:41,141
global financial meltdown,
you will not sleep that night.
1099
00:57:41,174 --> 00:57:45,211
So if the catalyst is something
like zombies, then you can say,
1100
00:57:45,245 --> 00:57:47,614
oh wow, look, neighbors are
stabbing each other and there
1101
00:57:47,647 --> 00:57:49,983
are no services and FEMA is
incompetent and the president
1102
00:57:50,016 --> 00:57:51,951
is flying over going,
"That's peculiar."
1103
00:57:51,985 --> 00:57:53,386
(laughter)
1104
00:57:53,419 --> 00:57:55,655
But it's zombies,
so that's totally okay
1105
00:57:55,688 --> 00:57:56,756
and then I'm going
to go to sleep.
1106
00:58:03,196 --> 00:58:04,664
What would be your first
order of business
1107
00:58:04,697 --> 00:58:06,166
in a zombie apocalypse?
1108
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:08,868
Find some place that's fortified
that I can control what comes in
1109
00:58:08,902 --> 00:58:11,404
and what comes out
because if I can stop them
1110
00:58:11,437 --> 00:58:13,840
before they even come in...
1111
00:58:13,873 --> 00:58:16,876
Would it be a boat?
What do you think?
1112
00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:18,344
I don't know, never
thought about the boat.
1113
00:58:18,378 --> 00:58:19,512
You've got to think
about these things.
1114
00:58:19,546 --> 00:58:20,580
Right.
1115
00:58:20,613 --> 00:58:22,882
Everyone has their chance
today to be prepared.
1116
00:58:22,916 --> 00:58:24,584
You make the choice now
whether you're going to be
1117
00:58:24,617 --> 00:58:26,452
prepped to live
or prepped to die.
1118
00:58:26,486 --> 00:58:29,322
Top five things that you would
suggest people prioritize
1119
00:58:29,355 --> 00:58:31,090
when they're
creating a prep kit.
1120
00:58:31,124 --> 00:58:33,626
Water purification and
filtration equipment,
1121
00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:37,530
first aid if you get injured,
security hugely important,
1122
00:58:37,564 --> 00:58:43,069
shelter and warmth,
and shortwave radio, ham radio.
1123
00:58:43,102 --> 00:58:45,338
What is your motto at
Atlas Survival Shelters?
1124
00:58:45,371 --> 00:58:47,440
Better prepared than scared.
1125
00:58:47,473 --> 00:58:51,444
I build long-term survival
shelters for private individuals
1126
00:58:51,477 --> 00:58:53,513
so that their family
has a chance to survive
1127
00:58:53,546 --> 00:58:55,148
what's coming
down the road.
1128
00:58:55,181 --> 00:58:56,616
And is something
coming down the road?
1129
00:58:56,649 --> 00:58:58,351
I believe something is
coming down the road.
1130
00:58:58,384 --> 00:58:59,719
a lot of people do.
1131
00:58:59,752 --> 00:59:00,954
What would you say
if somebody said that
1132
00:59:00,987 --> 00:59:02,589
one of those threats
was zombies?
1133
00:59:02,622 --> 00:59:03,690
Say that again.
1134
00:59:03,723 --> 00:59:05,692
What would you say if one of
those threats was zombies?
1135
00:59:05,725 --> 00:59:06,759
What if they're fast?
1136
00:59:06,793 --> 00:59:09,229
If they're fast, you could
spend upwards of $10,000.
1137
00:59:09,262 --> 00:59:11,464
So you're fucked
if they're fast.
1138
00:59:11,497 --> 00:59:15,034
Yeah...
you're fucked.
1139
00:59:15,068 --> 00:59:18,004
Your shelters are nuclear,
biological, and chemical class
1140
00:59:18,037 --> 00:59:21,174
survival shelters,
but are they zombie proof?
1141
00:59:21,207 --> 00:59:22,775
From the television zombies?
1142
00:59:22,809 --> 00:59:23,876
Yeah, are your
shelters --
1143
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:26,079
From the television zombies,
they're zombie proof,
1144
00:59:26,112 --> 00:59:27,347
100 percent.
1145
00:59:30,817 --> 00:59:32,518
There are people who
are always asking me,
1146
00:59:32,552 --> 00:59:35,021
do you have a zombie
survival plan?
1147
00:59:35,054 --> 00:59:36,522
And I'm like, no,
I live in San Francisco.
1148
00:59:36,556 --> 00:59:38,258
I don't even have an
earthquake survival kit,
1149
00:59:38,291 --> 00:59:40,159
so I'm not exactly on
Darwin's short list
1150
00:59:40,193 --> 00:59:42,028
for making it through this.
1151
00:59:42,061 --> 00:59:45,064
I always think getting to the
attic would be a good thing to
1152
00:59:45,098 --> 00:59:49,235
do because they can't climb and
you could lift up the ladder
1153
00:59:49,269 --> 00:59:50,603
and they wouldn't know you were
up there if you were real quiet
1154
00:59:50,637 --> 00:59:52,205
but you're going
to starve to death.
1155
00:59:52,238 --> 00:59:53,473
People make noise.
1156
00:59:53,506 --> 00:59:57,377
I've got a little girl now and
I can't keep her quiet anywhere,
1157
00:59:57,410 --> 01:00:00,380
let alone in an attic
in a house full of zombies,
1158
01:00:00,413 --> 01:00:03,483
so I think you'd have to get up,
I think you'd go north.
1159
01:00:03,516 --> 01:00:08,554
Once I'm sure that civilization
is as screwed up as, you know,
1160
01:00:08,588 --> 01:00:11,224
it would be in
a zombie apocalypse,
1161
01:00:11,257 --> 01:00:13,126
I would jump off
the tallest building.
1162
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:14,594
I don't want to live like that.
1163
01:00:14,627 --> 01:00:16,296
I don't like being hungry.
1164
01:00:16,329 --> 01:00:17,497
You ever been hungry?
1165
01:00:17,530 --> 01:00:18,731
It's not fun.
1166
01:00:18,765 --> 01:00:21,100
I would hang on as long as I
thought I could protect my wife
1167
01:00:21,134 --> 01:00:25,471
and kids, and then once that
didn't pan out because
1168
01:00:25,505 --> 01:00:29,575
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't
pan out, then I would go.
1169
01:00:29,609 --> 01:00:34,247
I think I would just have to
run away and call my children
1170
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,150
and wish them luck.
1171
01:00:37,183 --> 01:00:39,118
Do the best you can
where you are.
1172
01:00:39,152 --> 01:00:40,620
I'll do what I can where I am.
1173
01:00:40,653 --> 01:00:41,921
I ain't coming to get you.
1174
01:00:41,954 --> 01:00:44,557
Sorry dude, you had a good life.
1175
01:00:44,590 --> 01:00:48,094
(laughing)
1176
01:00:48,127 --> 01:00:50,463
I love my family more than
Bruce Campbell loves his family,
1177
01:00:50,496 --> 01:00:51,531
it's official.
1178
01:00:51,564 --> 01:00:54,067
I'm not a very good shot,
I certainly can't shoot
1179
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:56,235
a crossbow, I'm not
a very good fisherman.
1180
01:00:56,269 --> 01:00:58,037
I would be like Homer.
1181
01:00:58,071 --> 01:01:00,506
Homer was blind and wandered
around a really dangerous
1182
01:01:00,540 --> 01:01:03,009
landscape with a bunch of futile
lords and somehow stayed alive
1183
01:01:03,042 --> 01:01:04,777
by telling people stories and
was smart enough never to
1184
01:01:04,811 --> 01:01:05,945
have them end, right?
1185
01:01:05,978 --> 01:01:07,547
Because if then ended,
then they'd kill him.
1186
01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:12,452
I would drive here, I would
do zombie makeup on myself
1187
01:01:12,485 --> 01:01:16,189
and then just walk around.
1188
01:01:16,222 --> 01:01:20,693
The only problem would be if
some dude with a shotgun saw me,
1189
01:01:20,727 --> 01:01:22,061
he'd shoot me in the head
and then it would kind of
1190
01:01:22,095 --> 01:01:23,496
defeat the purpose.
1191
01:01:23,529 --> 01:01:25,665
Are zombies on the news coming?
Did I miss something?
1192
01:01:25,698 --> 01:01:28,668
Are zombies walking
up and down my alley
1193
01:01:28,701 --> 01:01:30,370
and I need to be ready for them?
1194
01:01:30,403 --> 01:01:33,506
I'm sure you've seen examples
of people where there is
1195
01:01:33,539 --> 01:01:37,477
no separation and this is
something that's real to them.
1196
01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:38,945
Wrestling is real to them!
1197
01:01:38,978 --> 01:01:40,346
What's up Zed Heads?
1198
01:01:40,380 --> 01:01:42,615
The zombie apocalypse is coming
whether you like it or not.
1199
01:01:42,648 --> 01:01:45,351
It's not a matter of if, it's
a matter of when, and our homies
1200
01:01:45,385 --> 01:01:47,320
at Zombie Industries are
going to help us prepare.
1201
01:01:47,353 --> 01:01:49,355
They've got the bleeding targets
that you can use
1202
01:01:49,389 --> 01:01:52,358
to armor yourself up
and protect your family.
1203
01:01:52,392 --> 01:01:54,527
Here at Zombie Industries,
we're going to teach you firearm
1204
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,797
safety, hand-to-hand combat,
and how to put a bullet
1205
01:01:57,830 --> 01:02:01,534
right through a zombie's brain
because it's your patriotic duty
1206
01:02:01,567 --> 01:02:04,237
to prepare yourself
for the zombie hoards.
1207
01:02:04,270 --> 01:02:07,707
It's the end of the world
and I feel fine.
1208
01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:09,642
We're going to
train you up solid.
1209
01:02:09,675 --> 01:02:11,310
Ladies, show them what you got!
1210
01:02:11,344 --> 01:02:14,847
(yelling)
1211
01:02:14,881 --> 01:02:17,150
We're coming for you, zombies!
1212
01:02:22,622 --> 01:02:25,425
We understand that it's not
a matter of if the zombies come,
1213
01:02:25,458 --> 01:02:27,627
but more of a matter of when
and when they do,
1214
01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:29,061
we want people to be ready.
1215
01:02:29,095 --> 01:02:31,831
We're all about preparedness
here and it really is
1216
01:02:31,864 --> 01:02:34,534
something that we think
is a family activity.
1217
01:02:34,567 --> 01:02:36,335
Everybody in the house
should be prepared
1218
01:02:36,369 --> 01:02:37,570
for when the zombies come.
1219
01:02:37,603 --> 01:02:40,173
We really want to instill
for our customers to actually
1220
01:02:40,206 --> 01:02:43,042
have an avenue basically to
come out and give them products
1221
01:02:43,075 --> 01:02:44,243
to train with.
1222
01:02:44,277 --> 01:02:47,280
Our targets basically have
been shot in testing up to
1223
01:02:47,313 --> 01:02:49,649
about 2500 times,
maybe a little bit more.
1224
01:02:49,682 --> 01:02:51,651
We've shot them with everything
from a .22 all the way up to
1225
01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:54,320
a 50 BMG, so anything
you want to throw at it.
1226
01:02:54,353 --> 01:02:57,723
All of our bleeding targets have
500 individual cells of blood
1227
01:02:57,757 --> 01:03:00,526
inside distributed through the
center mass and through the face
1228
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,462
so it's not one large bladder
where you shoot it once
1229
01:03:02,495 --> 01:03:04,230
and everything runs out
and the fun's over.
1230
01:03:04,263 --> 01:03:07,099
Our targets are designed
to last all day.
1231
01:03:07,133 --> 01:03:09,535
Firearm safety is
a very serious thing.
1232
01:03:09,569 --> 01:03:11,571
When you start talking about
shooting three-dimensional
1233
01:03:11,604 --> 01:03:15,241
realistic human beings,
people get uneasy about that,
1234
01:03:15,274 --> 01:03:17,877
but as soon as you make it
a zombie, then it's okay.
1235
01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:20,446
We came out with
the Chris zombie,
1236
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,448
who is the quintessential
zombie.
1237
01:03:22,482 --> 01:03:25,418
He still, to this day, remains
our number one seller.
1238
01:03:25,451 --> 01:03:28,120
We did quickly move into
the terrorist and the Nazi.
1239
01:03:28,154 --> 01:03:29,655
Zombies don't really
discriminate
1240
01:03:29,689 --> 01:03:31,524
so we came out with
an ex-girlfriend.
1241
01:03:31,557 --> 01:03:34,093
When people ask us all the
time, how do you have a female
1242
01:03:34,126 --> 01:03:37,196
shooting target and I have to
tell them, look, if it comes
1243
01:03:37,230 --> 01:03:39,365
right down to it, if my
mother becomes a zombie,
1244
01:03:39,398 --> 01:03:41,968
it's going to break my heart,
but I'm not going to hesitate.
1245
01:03:42,001 --> 01:03:43,569
I'm going to have
to double tap her.
1246
01:03:43,603 --> 01:03:47,073
When the zombie apocalypse
arrives, will you survive?
1247
01:03:47,106 --> 01:03:49,175
Zombie go boom!
1248
01:03:49,208 --> 01:03:52,545
Kick undead ass!
1249
01:03:52,578 --> 01:03:56,082
The USA-made Ka-Bar Zombie
Killer Swabbie was created
1250
01:03:56,115 --> 01:04:00,319
to ensure you are prepared in
the most extreme of situations.
1251
01:04:13,566 --> 01:04:14,967
Holy shit!
1252
01:04:16,302 --> 01:04:17,837
Holy shit!
1253
01:04:17,870 --> 01:04:20,506
I didn't know if that was
actually a possibility
1254
01:04:20,540 --> 01:04:24,043
to take somebody's face off.
1255
01:04:24,076 --> 01:04:28,180
The layers are ridiculous,
crystal skull, extremely hard.
1256
01:04:28,214 --> 01:04:30,416
The crystal skull is actually
probably harder than
1257
01:04:30,449 --> 01:04:32,451
a human skull and
this was just easy.
1258
01:04:36,389 --> 01:04:37,456
How easy was that?
1259
01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:39,892
That was just as easy
as the first strike.
1260
01:04:39,926 --> 01:04:41,394
ZGB approved!
1261
01:04:41,427 --> 01:04:45,064
Oh my God!
1262
01:04:45,097 --> 01:04:47,033
Calm down,
it's okay.
1263
01:04:47,066 --> 01:04:48,200
I love that thing!
1264
01:04:49,168 --> 01:04:51,304
A common phrase in
zombie circles is
1265
01:04:51,337 --> 01:04:52,872
"blades don't need reloading."
1266
01:04:52,905 --> 01:04:55,308
I always say, yeah but,
blades need sharpening.
1267
01:04:55,341 --> 01:04:57,310
Have you ever tried to hit
someone with the back end
1268
01:04:57,343 --> 01:04:58,578
of a machete?
1269
01:04:58,611 --> 01:05:01,147
Like the parts that aren't sharp
or the flat end of a machete?
1270
01:05:01,180 --> 01:05:02,515
They'd be like, ah,
why'd you do that?
1271
01:05:02,548 --> 01:05:03,683
You slapped me.
1272
01:05:03,716 --> 01:05:05,985
Pack of dogs, I'd have a big
pack of dogs, big vicious
1273
01:05:06,018 --> 01:05:09,221
and small vicious dogs
as long as there was dog food.
1274
01:05:09,255 --> 01:05:11,657
I guess the zombies would
provide the dog food but then
1275
01:05:11,691 --> 01:05:14,193
the dogs, you know how dogs like
to get into corpses and stuff
1276
01:05:14,226 --> 01:05:15,461
and they throw up.
1277
01:05:15,494 --> 01:05:17,597
I'd have to be letting the dog
out in the middle of the night
1278
01:05:17,630 --> 01:05:19,298
so they could vomit
and then the zombies
1279
01:05:19,332 --> 01:05:21,334
might get into the house.
1280
01:05:21,367 --> 01:05:23,903
It's interesting because if it
did happen, people would think,
1281
01:05:23,936 --> 01:05:26,672
okay, so it's like Romero
movies, but it might not be.
1282
01:05:26,706 --> 01:05:28,641
It might not necessarily
be George's vision.
1283
01:05:28,674 --> 01:05:29,909
It might be something else.
1284
01:05:29,942 --> 01:05:32,878
You might cut their head off or
smash it in and the body still
1285
01:05:32,912 --> 01:05:35,381
comes after you or something
like that, you know?
1286
01:05:35,414 --> 01:05:37,249
(laughing)
1287
01:05:37,283 --> 01:05:40,152
I think, you know,
movies show that there really
1288
01:05:40,186 --> 01:05:43,923
is no good weapon,
they always find a way.
1289
01:05:43,956 --> 01:05:45,424
You're going to
run out of bullets.
1290
01:05:45,458 --> 01:05:50,863
There's too many to hold off
with a sword or a blunt object.
1291
01:05:50,896 --> 01:05:52,398
Fire doesn't stop them.
1292
01:05:52,431 --> 01:05:54,600
I mean, we're screwed.
1293
01:05:54,634 --> 01:05:57,470
I have never seen a zombie
movie where someone dies of
1294
01:05:57,503 --> 01:06:00,339
dehydration, but that's going
to kill a lot more people
1295
01:06:00,373 --> 01:06:01,874
than zombie bites.
1296
01:06:01,907 --> 01:06:04,043
I've never seen a zombie movie
where someone has drunk from
1297
01:06:04,076 --> 01:06:07,813
a puddle and crapped themselves
to death, but that's going to
1298
01:06:07,847 --> 01:06:10,116
kill a lot more people
than zombie bites.
1299
01:06:10,149 --> 01:06:14,353
Starvation, disease, friendly
fire, accidents, infections,
1300
01:06:14,387 --> 01:06:17,590
all these things are going
to kill people a lot faster.
1301
01:06:17,623 --> 01:06:19,425
Liberals will
become your zombies.
1302
01:06:19,458 --> 01:06:22,328
They're going to be the first
ones to cry and moan and die
1303
01:06:22,361 --> 01:06:25,297
and they're going to be the
first ones to do the looting,
1304
01:06:25,331 --> 01:06:29,468
the pillaging, and they're
going to be the zombies.
1305
01:06:29,502 --> 01:06:32,705
Like a lot of liberal Americans,
I was excited when Barack Obama
1306
01:06:32,738 --> 01:06:36,776
took office four years ago, but
it's a very different world now,
1307
01:06:36,809 --> 01:06:39,211
and Mitt Romney is a very
different candidate, one with
1308
01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:42,381
the vision and determination to
cut through business as usual
1309
01:06:42,415 --> 01:06:46,285
politics, and finally put this
country back on the path
1310
01:06:46,318 --> 01:06:47,953
to the zombie apocalypse.
1311
01:06:47,987 --> 01:06:50,756
He's not afraid to face
a ravening grasping hoard of
1312
01:06:50,790 --> 01:06:53,859
sub-humans because that's how
he sees poor people already.
1313
01:06:53,893 --> 01:06:56,262
Paid for by the Committee to
Learn Parkour, like really soon,
1314
01:06:56,295 --> 01:06:58,064
like maybe take a class
or something.
1315
01:07:02,568 --> 01:07:04,203
We talked to a lot of
survivalists and preppers,
1316
01:07:04,236 --> 01:07:06,505
each of them stressing
at the top of their list
1317
01:07:06,539 --> 01:07:09,041
the most important thing
during any catastrophe --
1318
01:07:09,075 --> 01:07:10,743
you know, like
a zombie apocalypse --
1319
01:07:10,776 --> 01:07:15,548
the need for clean water and
water filters like this one.
1320
01:07:15,581 --> 01:07:18,851
So in the name of survival,
I'm going to pee into this cup,
1321
01:07:18,884 --> 01:07:23,422
filter it, and then drink it,
because if this filter works,
1322
01:07:23,456 --> 01:07:25,925
it's not really my
pee anymore, right?
1323
01:07:25,958 --> 01:07:27,526
You ready for this?
1324
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,762
Okay, here it goes.
1325
01:07:29,795 --> 01:07:32,298
I'm thinking like I'm
at a doctor's office.
1326
01:07:32,331 --> 01:07:36,202
Alright, here we go.
1327
01:07:36,235 --> 01:07:38,704
Zombies are coming.
1328
01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:42,074
It doesn't help
that it's fizzy.
1329
01:07:44,343 --> 01:07:45,544
It's warm.
1330
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:03,129
It kind of tastes
like water, yeah.
1331
01:08:03,162 --> 01:08:05,865
I think that was safe to drink.
1332
01:08:05,898 --> 01:08:07,666
We're good.
1333
01:08:08,901 --> 01:08:10,436
MATT I've tried to break down
every state in the United States
1334
01:08:10,469 --> 01:08:13,739
based on zombie survivability
and I used 20 or 30 different
1335
01:08:13,773 --> 01:08:18,110
factors -- topography, climate,
public health infrastructure,
1336
01:08:18,144 --> 01:08:21,447
natural resources, military
presence, on and on and on,
1337
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:24,116
the most important one is
population density, by far.
1338
01:08:24,150 --> 01:08:25,918
Up there also is
gun ownership rate.
1339
01:08:25,951 --> 01:08:28,587
New Jersey ranks the lowest
in zombie survivability.
1340
01:08:28,621 --> 01:08:32,024
Population density of 1,000
people per square mile
1341
01:08:32,057 --> 01:08:34,693
and a gun ownership rate
of 12.3 percent.
1342
01:08:34,727 --> 01:08:38,631
Then we look at Wyoming --
population density of 5.6 people
1343
01:08:38,664 --> 01:08:42,201
per square mile and a gun
ownership rate of 68 percent,
1344
01:08:42,234 --> 01:08:44,637
so it's like one dude with a gun
sitting on a farm going,
1345
01:08:44,670 --> 01:08:46,772
"Hey buddy, do you see
a zombie over there?"
1346
01:08:46,806 --> 01:08:49,208
And the other guy yelling over,
"No, I don't see one!"
1347
01:08:49,241 --> 01:08:53,145
Five people per square mile
makes very few zombies.
1348
01:08:53,179 --> 01:08:54,780
The entire northeast
is totally screwed.
1349
01:08:54,814 --> 01:08:56,949
If you ever want a reason
not to move to New York City,
1350
01:08:56,982 --> 01:08:58,150
that's a reason.
1351
01:08:58,184 --> 01:08:59,952
When zombies come,
everybody's dead.
1352
01:08:59,985 --> 01:09:02,721
New York is the hero
city, it just is.
1353
01:09:02,755 --> 01:09:05,257
Like I was in New York for 9/11,
I was there for the blackout,
1354
01:09:05,291 --> 01:09:07,827
and look what happened with
this horrific storm?
1355
01:09:07,860 --> 01:09:10,629
New Yorkers freaking came
together, they kept calm,
1356
01:09:10,663 --> 01:09:13,165
they carried on, and they're
dealing, so New York can handle
1357
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:15,734
anything and it's the most
densely populated place
1358
01:09:15,768 --> 01:09:17,736
in North America.
1359
01:09:17,770 --> 01:09:19,905
L.A., where I'm from, gone.
1360
01:09:19,939 --> 01:09:23,742
(laughter)
1361
01:09:23,776 --> 01:09:25,477
I think one of the greatest
misconceptions in zombie
1362
01:09:25,511 --> 01:09:28,414
survival is that zombies are
what you need to worry about
1363
01:09:28,447 --> 01:09:29,682
when you're trying to survive.
1364
01:09:29,715 --> 01:09:32,418
Zombies are only one of a whole
host of threats that you really
1365
01:09:32,451 --> 01:09:36,121
need to face and I would argue
that humans are as great
1366
01:09:36,155 --> 01:09:40,125
or maybe even a greater threat
than zombies, right?
1367
01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:40,793
I'm not a horror fan.
1368
01:09:40,826 --> 01:09:42,895
I don't seek out fear.
1369
01:09:42,928 --> 01:09:47,433
I think that most horror fans,
in their core, feel safe.
1370
01:09:47,466 --> 01:09:48,534
I don't.
1371
01:09:48,567 --> 01:09:51,070
I naturally feel scared
so my writing is to exercise
1372
01:09:51,103 --> 01:09:53,105
an anxiety that I already have.
1373
01:09:53,138 --> 01:09:57,309
I base my zombies on AIDS.
1374
01:09:57,343 --> 01:10:01,213
Now AIDS is insanely
hard to get.
1375
01:10:01,247 --> 01:10:04,016
It's not waterborne, it's not
foodborne, it's not airborne.
1376
01:10:04,049 --> 01:10:06,986
How in the world did it kill
millions and millions of people
1377
01:10:07,019 --> 01:10:09,054
and still killing millions
and millions of people?
1378
01:10:09,088 --> 01:10:11,857
Because we, as people,
were stupid.
1379
01:10:11,891 --> 01:10:13,759
If the President of the United
States had gone on national
1380
01:10:13,792 --> 01:10:17,496
television in say 1981 and said
look, there's a really, really
1381
01:10:17,529 --> 01:10:20,633
horrible disease, hard to get,
but if you do get it, you're
1382
01:10:20,666 --> 01:10:24,837
doomed, so there's going to be
a national education campaign,
1383
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:27,573
we could have cured AIDS with
a pamphlet and so it's easy to
1384
01:10:27,606 --> 01:10:31,510
imagine something like a zombie
plague getting out of control.
1385
01:10:34,113 --> 01:10:36,749
MATT: Absolutely, a zombie
pandemic is possible.
1386
01:10:36,782 --> 01:10:40,819
This new wave of zombies, this
living zombie, that is created
1387
01:10:40,853 --> 01:10:45,624
by some sort of infection or
virus that gets out of hand.
1388
01:10:45,658 --> 01:10:48,093
I really do think that
it's more plausible now
1389
01:10:48,127 --> 01:10:50,396
than I did, say, five years ago.
1390
01:10:50,429 --> 01:10:52,364
Could a zombie
apocalypse happen?
1391
01:10:52,398 --> 01:10:55,467
Well, let's examine what we mean
or what the storytellers mean
1392
01:10:55,501 --> 01:10:56,702
when they say this.
1393
01:10:56,735 --> 01:10:59,872
They mean a parasite jumping
from one organism to another.
1394
01:10:59,905 --> 01:11:02,041
This happens routinely.
1395
01:11:02,074 --> 01:11:05,010
60 percent of all human diseases
come from the animals
1396
01:11:05,044 --> 01:11:06,779
that we eat or live with.
1397
01:11:06,812 --> 01:11:09,782
AIDS has infected
75 billion people
1398
01:11:09,815 --> 01:11:11,483
and killed 35 million people.
1399
01:11:11,517 --> 01:11:15,187
Bird flu and Swine flu,
the Bubonic Plague in Europe
1400
01:11:15,220 --> 01:11:17,990
killed half of the population
at the time.
1401
01:11:18,023 --> 01:11:21,527
The Spanish Epidemic in 1918
killed more people
1402
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,330
than the First World War.
1403
01:11:24,363 --> 01:11:27,299
STEVEN: ANSD is the abbreviation
for the disease I made up,
1404
01:11:27,333 --> 01:11:30,102
it stands for Ataxic
Neurodegenerative Satiety
1405
01:11:30,135 --> 01:11:32,204
Deficiency Syndrome.
1406
01:11:32,237 --> 01:11:34,073
Ataxic means you
don't walk well.
1407
01:11:34,106 --> 01:11:37,142
Neurodegenerative means that
your brain is being degraded,
1408
01:11:37,176 --> 01:11:38,410
it's degenerating.
1409
01:11:38,444 --> 01:11:40,346
Satiety is a sense that you're
full, the sense that you've
1410
01:11:40,379 --> 01:11:41,680
eaten enough and that's
in your brain, too.
1411
01:11:41,714 --> 01:11:43,515
Your brain is what tells you
you've eaten enough and it's
1412
01:11:43,549 --> 01:11:46,485
a syndrome because we don't
know what causes it.
1413
01:11:46,518 --> 01:11:47,953
There is one thing
that we can't ever do,
1414
01:11:47,987 --> 01:11:49,154
we can't raise the dead.
1415
01:11:49,188 --> 01:11:51,223
In the book I wrote,
we philosophically decided
1416
01:11:51,256 --> 01:11:53,325
that they were dead because
I realized medically speaking,
1417
01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:55,928
I can't have anything that makes
the dead come back to life,
1418
01:11:55,961 --> 01:12:00,065
but other than that aspect,
you can have brain pathology.
1419
01:12:00,099 --> 01:12:03,202
You can have neurobiological
insults that will yield
1420
01:12:03,235 --> 01:12:06,805
a kind of presentation
of a person who acts like
1421
01:12:06,839 --> 01:12:08,574
the zombies we see
in the movies.
1422
01:12:10,042 --> 01:12:12,945
There are many splendid examples
of parasites that control
1423
01:12:12,978 --> 01:12:16,815
behavior and often times, these
examples are as fantastical
1424
01:12:16,849 --> 01:12:20,319
or even more fantastical than we
can see in Hollywood creations.
1425
01:12:20,352 --> 01:12:23,689
So we have examples of fungi
controlling ant behavior.
1426
01:12:23,722 --> 01:12:28,327
We have emerald jeweled wasps
injecting a very specific mind
1427
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,096
manipulator into the brains
of cockroaches,
1428
01:12:31,130 --> 01:12:35,000
lots of examples of parasites
controlling behavior.
1429
01:12:35,034 --> 01:12:37,736
We call them zombies and
we even think about it now
1430
01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:41,573
in the context of
zombie biology.
1431
01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:44,143
In the case of the ants,
the case of the zombie ants,
1432
01:12:44,176 --> 01:12:47,146
what happens is that a regular
colony of ants is living in
1433
01:12:47,179 --> 01:12:49,915
a tropical rain forest and
in the course of foraging,
1434
01:12:49,948 --> 01:12:53,085
they walk through a patch of
fungal spores in the ground
1435
01:12:53,118 --> 01:12:56,755
and these fungal spores attach
tightly and start replicating
1436
01:12:56,789 --> 01:13:01,894
inside its body...and then
at a particular moment when
1437
01:13:01,927 --> 01:13:05,030
the fungus needs to complete
the rest of its life cycle,
1438
01:13:05,064 --> 01:13:08,934
it controls the behavior of this
ant, making it leave the colony
1439
01:13:08,967 --> 01:13:11,670
and go out into the
understory vegetation
1440
01:13:11,703 --> 01:13:14,973
and go to the underside
of the leaf, deeply imbed
1441
01:13:15,007 --> 01:13:18,744
those mandibles into the leaf,
because on the underside of
1442
01:13:18,777 --> 01:13:22,314
this leaf, on the platform,
the fungus is going to grow
1443
01:13:22,347 --> 01:13:25,918
a large stalk from the back of
the ant's head to produce spores
1444
01:13:25,951 --> 01:13:28,153
which are shot down
into the forest floor
1445
01:13:28,187 --> 01:13:31,857
and the cycle continues again.
1446
01:13:31,890 --> 01:13:33,659
Why doesn't it
happen for humans?
1447
01:13:33,692 --> 01:13:36,495
It really comes down
to a numbers game.
1448
01:13:36,528 --> 01:13:38,797
There are almost a million
species of insects
1449
01:13:38,831 --> 01:13:42,968
and there are roughly 5,500,
6,000 species of mammals.
1450
01:13:43,001 --> 01:13:47,139
So evolution just hasn't had
the opportunity to play with our
1451
01:13:47,172 --> 01:13:50,442
minds, but despite that, we do
see some really cool examples
1452
01:13:50,476 --> 01:13:52,811
in mammals of
controlled behavior.
1453
01:13:52,845 --> 01:13:56,815
Rabies is something that really
springs to people's minds.
1454
01:13:56,849 --> 01:13:58,617
MATT: When I was growing up,
no one ever talked about Mad Cow
1455
01:13:58,650 --> 01:14:01,186
Disease, but Mad Cow Disease
is in the news a lot now.
1456
01:14:01,220 --> 01:14:02,921
Here's the problem with Mad
Cow Disease, it's created by
1457
01:14:02,955 --> 01:14:06,091
a protein and it's called a
Prion, it's a mutated protein.
1458
01:14:06,125 --> 01:14:08,594
This protein, if it gets into
your brain, it causes all
1459
01:14:08,627 --> 01:14:11,163
the other proteins in your
brain to mutate also.
1460
01:14:11,196 --> 01:14:14,967
The new strain of this protein
is showing evidence that
1461
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,935
it can be transferred
from blood to blood.
1462
01:14:16,969 --> 01:14:20,139
On top of that, the new symptoms
are it causes you to go insane
1463
01:14:20,172 --> 01:14:22,841
and often violently insane.
1464
01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:24,843
Mad Cow Disease turned
into Mad Human Disease
1465
01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:26,278
turned into Mad Zombie Disease.
1466
01:14:26,311 --> 01:14:28,947
We already have Mad Cow,
we already have Mad Human,
1467
01:14:28,981 --> 01:14:31,517
and we're halfway to Mad Zombie,
but the problem is
1468
01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:33,619
once it happens, it's too late.
1469
01:14:33,652 --> 01:14:36,355
There's no more polite
discussion about what it's
1470
01:14:36,388 --> 01:14:39,658
going to be like and debating
about the best way to survive.
1471
01:14:39,691 --> 01:14:41,160
It's run and scream time.
1472
01:14:41,193 --> 01:14:43,929
There's no more making movies,
there's no more watching TV,
1473
01:14:43,962 --> 01:14:45,831
there's just, oh my God,
I'm being eaten.
1474
01:14:45,864 --> 01:14:48,600
It appears the dead have risen
and are walking among us.
1475
01:14:48,634 --> 01:14:50,435
These zombies have a certain
sexual preference
1476
01:14:50,469 --> 01:14:51,970
by attacking only men.
1477
01:14:52,004 --> 01:14:54,106
Officials at the Pentagon
are not sure if this is
1478
01:14:54,139 --> 01:14:56,575
a biological attack or
if the zombies are simply
1479
01:14:56,608 --> 01:14:57,976
doing this by choice.
1480
01:15:06,952 --> 01:15:10,489
ALEX: In every town, in America
pretty much, or any town of any
1481
01:15:10,522 --> 01:15:13,659
reasonable size, there's a group
of young people engaged,
1482
01:15:13,692 --> 01:15:17,529
even as we speak, making their
independent zombie film.
1483
01:15:20,599 --> 01:15:23,168
MAX: I don't know when
the zombie craze is going to
1484
01:15:23,202 --> 01:15:25,737
die out, I don't think it'll
ever die out completely.
1485
01:15:25,771 --> 01:15:27,272
I think they're,
in some element,
1486
01:15:27,306 --> 01:15:28,507
they're going to
be here to stay.
1487
01:15:28,540 --> 01:15:30,142
I didn't expect it
to go on this long.
1488
01:15:30,175 --> 01:15:32,711
I happen to write "The Zombie
Paper" and then later the book,
1489
01:15:32,744 --> 01:15:36,782
just at the right time and then
it just keeps flying forward,
1490
01:15:36,815 --> 01:15:39,718
or shambling forward, I should
say, this whole zombie thing.
1491
01:15:39,751 --> 01:15:42,354
There's probably a ceiling on
zombie popularity, but I don't
1492
01:15:42,387 --> 01:15:45,057
know if we've seen it yet and
I don't know when we will see it
1493
01:15:45,090 --> 01:15:46,892
but as long as things
are fucked up.
1494
01:15:46,925 --> 01:15:56,969
♪
1495
01:15:56,969 --> 01:16:02,674
♪
1496
01:16:02,708 --> 01:16:06,211
I've heard a number of people
say, this is it, zombies have
1497
01:16:06,245 --> 01:16:08,847
run their course and now we're
going to see vampires again
1498
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,116
or we're going to see werewolves
or we're going to see tapeworms.
1499
01:16:11,149 --> 01:16:12,884
I don't know.
1500
01:16:12,918 --> 01:16:16,755
DR. BLUMBERG: "World War Z," the
movie, is a perfect case study
1501
01:16:16,788 --> 01:16:19,558
of not just how mainstream
zombies have become,
1502
01:16:19,591 --> 01:16:22,761
but how much more mainstream
they might become.
1503
01:16:22,794 --> 01:16:26,531
Because that film is a PG-13,
it is sort of a new frontier
1504
01:16:26,565 --> 01:16:27,799
in a sense.
1505
01:16:27,833 --> 01:16:29,735
KYLE: And that was scooped
just a little bit by
1506
01:16:29,768 --> 01:16:32,137
the "Warm Bodies" film because
the "Warm Bodies" film
1507
01:16:32,170 --> 01:16:35,007
was kind of the first
zombie date movie.
1508
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,410
Now we have a zombie movie you
can bring your girlfriend to.
1509
01:16:38,443 --> 01:16:40,779
GREG: You know, to me, zombie
movies aren't zombie movies
1510
01:16:40,812 --> 01:16:42,114
without gore.
1511
01:16:42,147 --> 01:16:45,517
That's like doing a gangster
movie, but nobody has any guns.
1512
01:16:45,550 --> 01:16:50,155
Part of the whole culture of it
is the idea that you are being
1513
01:16:50,188 --> 01:16:55,260
devoured literally
by another human being.
1514
01:16:55,294 --> 01:16:58,630
FRAN: From "Night of the Living
Dead" to "World War Z,"
1515
01:16:58,664 --> 01:17:01,333
we've covered a lot of ground
so it'll be interesting to see
1516
01:17:01,366 --> 01:17:04,836
zombies in space or something.
1517
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:06,772
Not only do we have
PG-13 zombie movies,
1518
01:17:06,805 --> 01:17:08,807
we have kid zombie movies now.
1519
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:17,316
Hollywood is banking on zombies
being that big, and to me,
1520
01:17:17,349 --> 01:17:22,788
zombies have always been
small, little guys.
1521
01:17:22,821 --> 01:17:26,291
THEA: I really believe that it's
something that connects us all
1522
01:17:26,325 --> 01:17:28,660
and it's going to get bigger.
1523
01:17:28,694 --> 01:17:30,495
ROBERT: They're gonna be on your
streets, they're gonna be in
1524
01:17:30,529 --> 01:17:33,298
your stores, they're gonna be
coming at you, whether they're
1525
01:17:33,332 --> 01:17:37,002
fast or slow or whatever the
hell they are, but it's here to
1526
01:17:37,035 --> 01:17:40,572
stay, and you know what, if you
don't like it, get used to it
1527
01:17:40,605 --> 01:17:43,175
because it's not going anywhere.
1528
01:17:45,077 --> 01:17:55,554
♪
1529
01:17:55,587 --> 01:17:59,291
♪ Our love story could be
kinda gory, far from boring ♪
1530
01:17:59,324 --> 01:18:04,696
♪ We'd meet at a post...
apocalypse ♪
1531
01:18:04,730 --> 01:18:08,767
♪ Yeah, I'd be slowly walking
in a group stalking you ♪
1532
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:16,241
♪ You'd be the only man alive
that I could not resist ♪
1533
01:18:16,274 --> 01:18:18,643
♪ Then all of your friends
they'd try to kill us ♪
1534
01:18:18,677 --> 01:18:21,213
♪ But only because
they'd be jealous ♪
1535
01:18:21,246 --> 01:18:26,451
♪ That our love is deeper
than Edward and Bella's ♪
1536
01:18:26,485 --> 01:18:31,456
♪ If I were a zombie
I'd never eat your brain ♪
1537
01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:33,258
♪ I'd just want your heart ♪
1538
01:18:33,291 --> 01:18:36,194
♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart
I'd just want your heart ♪
1539
01:18:36,228 --> 01:18:42,067
♪ Yeah oh, if I were a zombie
I'd never eat your brain ♪
1540
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:43,668
♪ I'd just want your heart ♪
1541
01:18:43,702 --> 01:18:46,405
♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart
I'd just want your heart ♪
1542
01:18:46,438 --> 01:18:47,639
♪ 'Cause I want ya ♪
1543
01:18:47,672 --> 01:18:50,075
♪ You'd be hiding in
a second floor apartment ♪
1544
01:18:50,108 --> 01:18:54,346
♪ Knocking all the stairs down
to save your life... ♪
1545
01:18:54,379 --> 01:18:57,749
♪ From the undead ♪
1546
01:18:57,783 --> 01:19:00,485
♪ Double-barrel shotgun
taking out the slow ones ♪
1547
01:19:00,519 --> 01:19:04,723
♪ Then you'd see the passion
burning in my eye ♪
1548
01:19:04,756 --> 01:19:08,160
♪ And I'd keep my head ♪
1549
01:19:08,193 --> 01:19:10,729
♪ Then all of your friends
they'd try to kill us ♪
1550
01:19:10,762 --> 01:19:13,265
♪ But only because
they'd be jealous ♪
1551
01:19:13,298 --> 01:19:18,203
♪ That our love is deeper
than Edward and Bella's ♪
1552
01:19:18,236 --> 01:19:23,875
♪ Oh...if I were a zombie
I'd never eat your brain ♪
1553
01:19:23,909 --> 01:19:25,444
♪ I'd just want your heart ♪
1554
01:19:25,477 --> 01:19:28,113
♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart
I'd just want your heart ♪
1555
01:19:28,146 --> 01:19:34,286
♪ Yeah oh, if I were a zombie
I'd never eat your brain ♪
1556
01:19:34,319 --> 01:19:35,854
♪ I'd just want your heart ♪
1557
01:19:35,887 --> 01:19:38,457
♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart
I'd just want your heart ♪
1558
01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:44,095
♪ 'Cause I want ya ♪
1559
01:19:44,129 --> 01:19:47,299
♪ And I'd try not to
bite and infect you ♪
1560
01:19:47,332 --> 01:19:51,236
♪ Because I'd respect you
too much ♪
1561
01:19:51,269 --> 01:19:55,307
♪ Yeah, that's why I'd wait
until we got married ♪
1562
01:19:55,340 --> 01:19:59,110
♪ Oh, and our happiest days
would be spent ♪
1563
01:19:59,144 --> 01:20:01,880
♪ Picking off all your friends ♪
1564
01:20:01,913 --> 01:20:08,553
♪ And they'd see a love this
deep won't stay buried ♪
1565
01:20:08,587 --> 01:20:13,525
♪ If I were a zombie
I'd never eat your brain ♪
1566
01:20:13,558 --> 01:20:14,893
♪ I'd just want your heart ♪
1567
01:20:14,926 --> 01:20:17,963
♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart
I'd just want your heart ♪
1568
01:20:17,996 --> 01:20:23,969
♪ Yeah oh, if I were a zombie
I'd never eat your brain ♪
1569
01:20:24,002 --> 01:20:25,303
♪ I'd just want your heart ♪
1570
01:20:25,337 --> 01:20:25,303
♪ Yeah, I'd want your heart
I'd just want your heart ♪
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