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Lenovo’s Legion 5 and ASUS’s TUF A15 are both
great mid-range gaming laptops this year,
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but which should you get? I think
the answer is going to surprise you!
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The build quality of both laptops is quite good,
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they’ve both got metal lids and plastic
interiors which feel nice. There’s only
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minor flex to the keyboards and the lid, nothing
to complain about for mid-range gaming laptops.
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The TUF A15 is a little smaller in both
width and depth, and the TUF is thinner
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too. It’s hard to fairly compare because Lenovo
only lists the thinnest point at the front,
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and although the thinnest point
of the TUF is a little thicker,
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side by side the back of the
Legion is thicker than the TUF.
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Not only was the Legion 5 bigger, but
I found it noticeably heavier too. The
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Legion is also available with an even larger
300 watt power brick in some regions too,
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which would increase its total weight further.
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On the left the Legion just has two USB
3.2 Gen 2 Type-C ports. The TUF also has
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two USB 3.2 Type-C ports here,
but they’re slower Gen 1. The TUF
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otherwise also has its power input,
gigabit ethernet, HDMI 2.0b output,
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a USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A port and 3.5mm
audio combo jack right down the front.
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They’ve both got a USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A port on
the right, and that’s all the TUF has on this
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side. The Legion has its 3.5mm audio combo
jack on this side, as well as a switch to
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physically disconnect the camera to ensure
privacy, a feature the TUF does not have.
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The TUF doesn’t have any ports on the back,
while the Legion has its gigabit ethernet port,
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a third USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C port, HDMI 2.1, 2
USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A ports, and its power input.
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Personally, I prefer the port layout on the
Legion, because it keeps those larger and
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bulky cables like the power and ethernet
running out the back and out of the way.
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The ports on the Legion are also
just objectively better too.
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The TUF has two USB Type-A ports,
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while the Legion has three. The TUF also has
two USB Type-C ports while the Legion has 3,
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and not only that but the Legion’s are faster
USB 3.2 Gen 2 while the TUF uses slower Gen 1.
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Now only that, but the TUF does not have
Type-C charging, while the Type-C port on
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the back of the Legion can be used to charge
the laptop with up to 130 watts. Only one of
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the Type-C ports on the TUF can be used to
connect an external screen with DisplayPort,
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while all three of the Type-C
ports on the Legion support that.
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The Legion also has HDMI 2.1, so you can connect
a 4K 120Hz 8-bit screen with G-Sync, while the
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TUF on the other hand maxes out at 4K 60Hz
8-bit with G-Sync, due to it being 2.0b.
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I preferred the keyboard on the Legion,
it’s probably personal preference,
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but the keys just felt clicker
and nicer to press to me.
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The Legion also has larger arrow keys that
are easier to press, while the TUF has clear
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WASD keys, making it more obvious that it’s
a gaming laptop. The lid of the TUF also
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just makes it look a bit more like a gaming
laptop, while the Legion looks a bit cleaner.
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Both keyboards have one zone of RGB backlighting,
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and although the key brightness
was a little higher with the TUF,
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the TUF’s lighting looked a bit more patchier
compared to the consistently lit Legion keys.
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The touchpads on both were good. I
preferred the clicker feel with the
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Legion more, but the TUF’s was about a
centimeter wider and still worked well.
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The Legion’s power button was more
useful, as it lights up to show you
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the current performance mode in use. The
Legion’s screen also goes the full 180
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degrees back for sharing, while the
TUF tops out at around 130 degrees.
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Both laptops have speakers underneath towards
the front on the left and right sides.
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The Legion’s speakers sound clearer, but
also more tinny. The TUF has more bass,
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and overall just sounds better to me.
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The latencymon results weren’t particularly
impressive from either of these laptops.
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The ASUS TUF A15 comes with a 720p
camera, and this is how it looks
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and sounds. The Legion 5 on the other
hand has a higher quality 1080p camera,
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but it is also available with a 720p
option, so expect a bit worse with that one.
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Both of my laptops have the same key specs with
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AMD’s Ryzen 7 6800H 8 core CPU
and Nvidia RTX 3060 graphics.
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Both laptops have their batteries towards
the front, cooler at the back with two fans,
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two memory slots, two M.2 slots for
storage, and a removable Wi-Fi card,
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it’s just hiding underneath the SSD in the TUF.
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Wi-Fi performance wasn’t that
amazing from either laptop,
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but the Legion 5 had a slight lead
over the TUF A15 in my testing. You
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could of course upgrade the Wi-Fi card
to something better for like $20 though.
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Although both of my laptops came with 512
gig SSDs, the one in my Legion 5 supports
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faster PCIe Gen 4, so it has much faster read and
write speeds. This might vary by region though,
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and as both laptops have the 6800H CPU you can
use faster PCIe Gen 4 drives in either laptop.
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It’s worth noting that the TUF A15 I bought
only came with one 16 gig stick of DDR5 memory,
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while the Legion 5 had two 8 gig sticks. This
might give the Legion a benefit in some tests,
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but from my own testing one stick of
DDR5 is still similar to dual channel.
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Both laptops have control panel software that
lets you set different performance modes. The
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A15 gives us some control over the fans with the
option to set the fans to full speed, while the
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Legion 5 does not have any fan control out of
the box, you need third party software for that.
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As for thermals, generally the TUF A15 was
running warmer. The A15’s idle temps were
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like 15 degrees Celsius warmer, though I
don’t personally think this matters at all.
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When under a combined CPU and GPU stress test
to represent a worst case full load scenario,
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the A15’s CPU was reaching thermal throttling
at 95 degrees Celsius. Although the Legion’s CPU
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wasn’t thermal throttling, the GPU was thermal
throttling in its highest performance mode,
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though the A15’s GPU was thermal throttling
in performance and turbo modes too,
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the highest manual mode with the fans
maxed out was needed to avoid it.
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Both the CPU and GPU were clocking higher
with the A15, which may excuse the higher
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CPU temperatures on the TUF. The A15 was
able to run all 8 CPU cores at 4GHz in
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manual mode while the Legion 5 maxed out
below 3.7GHz in the exact same workload.
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This explains why the TUF A15 was generally
running warmer, especially on the CPU. The
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Legion’s CPU was power limited to a little
over 30 watts, while the A15 could surpass
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45 watts. More power means more performance, but
at the expense of more heat. The Legion was able
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to reach higher GPU power limits, though as we
saw the TUF was still clocking a little higher
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on the GPU. It was a small difference in any
case, and could come down to silicon lottery,
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or perhaps the faster and louder fans in
the TUF allow the GPU to boost higher.
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The Legion’s keyboard area was cooler to
the touch with both laptops just sitting
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there idling. The TUF was also a bit warmer on
the keyboard when under heavy load, but this
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was mostly in the middle section, the WASD area
was fine. Let's have a listen to the fan noise.
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The Legion was quieter in most cases, especially
when running under full load with a combined CPU
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and GPU stress test, but don’t forget the TUF
does give us some fan control to make changes.
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Red Dead Redemption 2 was tested with the
game’s benchmark, and at 1080p the Legion
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5 was just 1 FPS ahead, which honestly is a small
difference and within the margin of error range.
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It’s definitely not going to be a change that
you’re actually going to notice when playing,
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in any case. Stepping up to the higher 1440p
resolution and now the TUF A15 was a little ahead,
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but again it’s a 1 FPS difference, so no
major change either way, I doubt you’d be
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able to tell which laptop you’re playing on
in a blind test with performance so close.
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Cyberpunk 2077 was about 1 FPS
ahead on the Legion 5 at 1080p,
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however the Legion had a 13% higher 1% low, so
less dips in performance. It’s possible that
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this is a result of the TUF A15 only having one
stick of memory, but from my own testing so far,
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this doesn’t really matter as much with DDR5 as
it did with older DDR4. The 1% low gap closes
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in a bit at the higher 1440p resolution,
though the A15 was still a little behind,
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but the difference in average
FPS is even closer together now.
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The TUF A15 was also a little behind
in 1% lows in Control at 1080p,
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though its average frame rates were
slightly ahead of the Legion. The 1%
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low difference again gets smaller at the
higher 1440p resolution, and again the TUF
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was about 1 FPS or so ahead of the Legion,
so really not much of a difference at all.
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Here are the 3DMark differences
for those that find them useful.
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Outside of gaming, raw CPU performance was
also quite close. Both laptops were basically
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scoring the same in single core performance in
Cinebench, and the Legion was only a couple of
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hundred points ahead of the TUF in multi core
score. We’re talking about a 1.4% increase there,
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so again like the games, only a minor difference
that you’re not going to notice in practice.
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That said, things change when we unplug the
charger and run the same test on battery
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power. The single core scores are still fairly
close together, however the Legion’s multicore
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performance suffers much more, dropping back over
5000 points. This results in the TUF performing
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much better in multicore performance
when you’re unplugged from the charger.
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Not only does the TUF perform better when
running on battery, it’s also able to last
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longer when running on battery too. The TUF’s
battery is 12.5% larger than the Legion’s,
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but it’s able to last 21% longer in the
YouTube video playback test with both
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screens at 200 nits. The Legion was lasting a
bit longer when running an actual game though.
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The Legion was also ahead when it
came to content creation workloads,
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despite both laptops having the same CPU and
GPU. Again some of this may be a result of
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the two sticks of memory, but the Legion does
also have a higher minimum GPU power limit,
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and as we saw in Cinebench earlier it has a
slight edge in CPU performance too. Blender
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was an exception, in this entirely GPU
only workload the TUF had a small lead.
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Although both laptops have a 15.6”
screen, they’re both available with
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1080p or 1440p options. Unfortunately
I’ve got a 1080p TUF and a 1440p Legion,
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so not directly comparable, but
I’ll still share my screen results.
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The 1440p panel in the Legion gets brighter
at full brightness, but at 90% brightness
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or below the TUF was brighter with
a more consistent brightness curve.
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Color gamut was much better with the Legion,
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the 1080p 144Hz panel in my TUF
just doesn’t seem that great.
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The screen response time was way better
with the 1440p panel in the Legion too.
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Again this isn’t a fair comparison, because
the 1440p A15 screen is probably better
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than the 1080p version, but it’s clear
that the 1080p panel in the TUF isn’t
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great. The 1080p panel in last year’s
Legion was better than the newer TUF,
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so based on this I’d hope the 2022 Legion’s
1080p screen isn’t as bad as the TUF’s.
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The total system latency shows how long
it takes between a mouse click and when
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a gun shot fire appears on the screen in CS:GO,
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and the faster screen in the Legion would be the
biggest reason that it was faster than the TUF.
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Although both laptops have a MUX switch,
only the Legion takes things to the next
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level with advanced optimus, meaning you don’t
have to reboot to swap between optimus on or
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off. The TUF would need a manual reboot
to change. The Legion also has G-Sync,
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at least with my 1440p panel. I believe the
1080p 165Hz Legion 5 screen also offers G-Sync,
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but the 144Hz and 60Hz options do not, and I don’t
think any of the TUFs screens offer G-Sync, though
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both laptops can do FreeSync with the integrated
Radeon graphics as long as optimus is on.
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The Legion gives us much more
customization options through the BIOS,
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the TUF on the other hand only
offers extremely basic options.
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Alright so what about the price difference?
This is difficult to fairly compare,
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because both laptops often go on sale,
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so refer to those links below the video
for current prices and current deals.
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And speaking of deals, if either
of these laptops do have a good
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sale I’ll be sure to add them to
my new website gaminglaptop.deals,
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so make sure you check out that website
to save money on your next gaming laptop!
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At the time of recording, the ASUS TUF A15 with
lower tier RTX 3050 Ti graphics is on sale for
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$700 USD at Bestbuy. Lenovo’s Legion 5 with
the same RTX 3050 Ti graphics starts at $1100,
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but that’s with the 6 core 6600H instead of the
6800H. The 6800H version is an extra $70. The
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3060 version of the Legion 5 that I’ve tested in
this video is $1450 right now on Lenovo’s website,
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which really isn’t great as I’ve seen the 5
Pro with 3070 Ti on sale for around that in
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the past. Still though, this is cheaper
compared to buying the same laptop from
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other sites like Newegg, which have it for
$100 more. The TUF is also available at
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Newegg with the same 6800H CPU and 3060
GPU for $100-200 less than the Legion.
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Alright so generally speaking, the
ASUS TUF A15 seems to be cheaper
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compared to Lenovo’s Legion 5 wherever I look.
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So then the question becomes, is it worth
paying more money to get the Legion 5?
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Honestly, probably not. In more cases than
not, the TUF A15 was the better laptop,
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so the fact that you can get it for
less money is just icing on the cake.
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Things like performance in games were basically
tied, and CPU performance in Cinebench was very
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close too. The TUF does perform better
when running on battery power though,
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and the TUF also lasts longer
when running off of the battery,
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at least when not gaming. The Legion did
seem to have an edge in content creation
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tasks though. Granted as mentioned, that
could be due to the memory difference.
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The TUF did run hotter, but this isn't
something I'd personally be worried
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about. The tradeoff is of course that
it’s able to reach higher clock speeds,
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though as we saw in the game tests, that
doesn’t really seem to translate to extra
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performance. Although the insides of the TUF
are hotter, the laptop isn’t hot to the touch,
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but the fans can get louder which is
something you'd be more likely to notice.
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The TUF is a little smaller and more
portable as it’s a fair bit lighter too,
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and its speakers sound better too.
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The Legion does have some nice extras
though, including more and better ports,
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and in my opinion the better
keyboard and touchpad. Build
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quality was fairly evenly matched,
maybe a slight edge to the Legion.
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All things considered though, unless you really
need the extra or faster ports of the Legion,
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or if you’re lazy and you want advanced optimus
so you don’t have to reboot to turn optimus on or
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off, then you really can just save the money
and get the cheaper TUF A15 in most cases.
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Maybe not with the lower quality 1080p 144Hz
screen that mine has though, as that was notably a
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step down compared to what my Legion had. I never
thought I’d be recommending a TUF over a Legion,
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but here we are. The A15 has definitely
grown up since it first launched in 2020.
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If you need more information on either of
these two laptops, then check out the full
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review videos over here next, as I go into
more depth in those. Both of these laptops
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are also available with Intel 12th gen CPUs,
it’s not just AMD only, so find out which CPU
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you should get in your next laptop over here
next before wasting your hard earned money!
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