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me for be is my prayer that everyone in this room never goes

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that does the Hardison for those people

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you know what my therapist's not too long ago

asked to me if

I could in less than a sentence

destroyed

what

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all I can come up with in the first thing that came up with and have been

able to find anything better than

and is in unfortunate gift in my life

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this not something I asked for achieved our

or anything like that so when this was

when I'm going through experiences that I am now going to coach

priest at church and he's looking at me like boy what is wrong with you

you know I knew my life was

was turned into something that I had no control I became

change it's it's not easy to do

tell somebody how you got thrown up that staircase

it's not easy to tell somebody that you're dead

was bouncing off the ceilings because the headboard posts or

jammed into the sheep weekend

stage we've got black toilets and we've got thousands of lives

this is just like you like a fucking karnal

I'm getting a little time

right now

this is not something I'm sorry discuss

I don't look forward because once I start talking about it even just to

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you know my mom used to tell me that good things happen to good people and

bad things happen to bad people

and sometimes bad things happen to good people too

the Amityville house appears to be quite peaceful now

is that no evidence that any strange occurrences here

since the lights family fled more than twenty years ago

house is not wanted it never was appointed

it was a money making good it is

definitely not folks back home has been exercised

was it really ahora was a hoax perpetrated

on the world which still remains mystified by the tales a bizarre

happenings

in a quiet house in a comparable Long Island community I've never introduced

myself as that person

the guy from an okay ever you had to be something completely different

I was somebody completely different then went for the most part I still am

what who were you before Amityville

who were you I was

analyst wriggle idk you know went to school

I told mom I was going to when I

was I was enrolled in school okay and what did you do instead

before revealing get intellectual

happy stuff you okay I don't know you okay go ahead on your right

and I kinda need to know a couple things about you that because I'm not want to

just sit in

down and start sharing stories okay i'd I thought I respect that

alright so good I kinda need to know like what's the most dramatic thing

that's ever happened to you

the most romantic thing that's ever happened to me arm

I think the most romantic thing that's ever happened to me was moving

when I was 13 from one country to another okay I think that was

for me and I was pretty scary an overwhelming I moved here

United States i right on

but to for me to sit here knowing that the most dramatic thing from view was

moved from one comes

to another and readjusting and you want me to sit here and I'm gonna start

talking about

possessions annexes and bouncing off his feelings

is not gonna be these thing for me to do because I know you're only gonna be able

to connect with me

that in in well let me say this to you

and you're absolutely right I'm not going to ever be able to know what you

did when three that some possibly understand right are

I'm in what I do for a living as a psychologist

I have connects with many people in so many different situations that I'm

much much many enter and I never okay always respectful

what people's life experiences have been is there someone that you're hoping to

benefit from

from doing most I would have to say my children

ok I want you can't 1917 hard tough

have a spoken to you at all about it yes

have and and and they are concerned

that's you know someday I get past

you feel like you have you haven't I'm ready to

not something that I asked for I didn't achieve this

it's not an accomplishment in my life so

wish to be associated have anything

this has been following

my entire life I've been running away from

and it finally caught up to me and I couldn't hide

ok

i sat down with my mom and I told her I said I I have to go

I left and

went to go find my own place in the world I didn't want to

you know be the Amityville Horror kid everywhere that I know people have

preconceived notions

me I didn't want to deal with it

so I would just Wanderley find places where nobody you mean

tryin work my way into a community

alright well

I was born Daniel Edward quarantine on in 1965

in West Balam Long Island New York

my father and my mother were high school sweethearts

on like one of those from

back see incidences they were married very young

very family oriented you know the the family's only lived a couple blocks away

from each other

it was my world and which

what I know and my mom and dad

got divorced I don't know I guess I was

7 and a halfish when

the divorce was actually final and

dad moved out on with his life and and we're not gonna Grandma and Grandpa's on

Sunday anymore there was this period of time where I really didn't know where I

fit in anymore

what to do with myself it helped me get

closer with my mother did actually strengthened our relationship

I had assumed a lot of no responsibilities

you know I was watchin my brother and my sister

and was responsible for the house and then

george was introduced into this yeah I which

a a there was maybe year

for some you know my mom went out with a couple guys burnt

she like George george was an ex-marine

recently divorced on a house

had a carry permit had shoppers

and family business and bolts

Corvettes and you know you was very well to do guy

somewhere along the line after my mother had met George

between georgian my father there was in agreements

you would met only marry my mother if you get it legally adopted three kids

with the name change in the Social Security and birth certificates and

yeah he was gonna put his name in label on something that wasn't

ultimately his you know that's when I

just started destroying disguise world

every opportunity that I walked into

just do anything

to get him that we could go back all

let's put it this way

I don't think it was the Brady Bunch I was somebody

that at the time for a couple of years they became familiar with

but I actually saw these kids and interacted with them

in their home I was just I was sorta a presence

when I was there I certainly wasn't harmful to them so I don't really think

that they were relating to me as a reporter they certainly knew

how I came to know caffeine George

I i think that there was some natural tension there

because this was us it was stepfather Danny

was was naturally more taciturn more self-contained

but he was always watching he was always very very aware of what was going on

just as I was putting together a series

on different aspects of psychic phenomenon for the station

Channel 5 News the story about the Lutz's

and their experience in 112 Ocean Avenue

word the Amityville Horror houses it's now come to be known

broke in New York Newsday everyone was trying to get in touch with them

and it took me a couple of weeks nobody knew where they were once they had done

a press conference they basically went underground

I finally managed to leave messages for them in track them down and

George Lutz called me and asked me if I would come and meet with them because I

told them I have good contacts

in the field parapsychology so I did

go out and meet with George Lutz and his

family on surveying firm at the time we had a nice conversation he took me back

to his mother in laws house

to meet cathy his wife and the three kids that's where they were staying

and over the course of a five-hour conversation where they told me about

their story they decided

that I was someone that they could trust in that they would allow channel 5 tap

the exclusive on the story

so that's how it all started

on November 13th 1974

the house at 112 Ocean Avenue Amityville

became the site of a notorious mass murder

23-year-old Ronald to fail junior shot to death his father

mother two brothers and two sisters with a 35 caliber Marlin rifle

all six victims were discovered by police face-down in their beds

apparently unmoved and each murdered while sleeping

good

toxicology reports approved the family was not

thread no silencer had been used on the weapon

lingering questions surrounding these murders have remained for nearly forty

years

giving way to wild conspiracy theories on whether or not to fail could have

committed these crimes alone

well at first just moving into the house was fine it's a lovely house

and we enjoyed moving within a week

cathy's handed untouched by something that we discussed

couldn't explain it was just something unseen bills or to fly said

here to and Matt

coming times cal

green the lots family purchased the house

at the reduced prices eighty thousand dollars very shortly after moving in

the family claim to have begun experiencing mounting paranormal

phenomena

cold spots were discovered randomly throughout the house

georgian Kathy claim to have witnessed to red eyes peering in at them from the

upstairs bedroom window

jolting sounds with wake the family during the night

my son Danny hands work on

in the window in the sewing room and they were flat and is

in just slammed I was was most in such a way that his hands were actually to form

they were flat thing going downstairs and found a calming down

is pretty much impossible gonna we've and look at it and then is fine

it didn't occur to us until much later that

house never really wanted us to leave the family fled the house on january 14

1976 none the subsequent families who have lived in the house since

have reported anything usual people we talked to seem to feel that whatever was

the motive for this crime

it had something to do with the family it's not something that's going to

return to bother anyone else

it will be interesting to see

what Danny feels after all these years what's also

I think fascinating is how much

love what he remembers actually happened and how much

in does he think what happened I knew the child

I don't know the man and yet Amityville

is a thread and actually something that has defined

he and his siblings for their lives so I'd like to know how is it impacting

you wanna see if he's come to terms

with that this he feels this is Israel she

do you mean good what you been up to for the last thirty years

been hanging in here for a while ok said last time I saw you

you are helping your mother do dishes

in the kitchen at the San Diego house you came to San

you yes one other things about the lots is that struck me immediately was

they were not seeking publicity

they were very very normal they were young suburban couple

the three kids were very very nice if you know any better they were just like

the couple next door

I mean when you heard the story it sounded like they had been visited by

just about every form a Paris psychological play in existence

I offered to put them in touch with Paris psychologist

like marine Warren they accepted that and basically at that point they said

okay

now on anything we do you can have the exclusive there are only two conditions

one you could you don't go into the house by yourself you go in with

reputable Paris psychologist

you know be great if you can get it whole team up our psychologist in there

so everybody to do their thing and read the house

0 what was ever in their to we wanted

our Privacy respect is what they asked me and they definitely wanted the kids

kept down a bit

the family's privacy and you reporting love

yes okay com like we would

we're gonna go to your schools and take pictures start interviewing

you anything Danny oh I wish somebody would have

what happened well but you are a minor child

and don't forget this very good at speaking for myself what would you have

said if you could have spoken for yourself

are spread all told everything that happened

exactly the way it happened while it is fresh in my mind as you can possibly be

now it's an interesting statement I mean

how fresh or dim is it your mind

now solve their I wish I could get were

us

said something that has been in my dreams

tire life Harry was going through

episode while the garage

was on the possession outcall

yeah job was going holistic

and torches to keep on a leash

in pair but it was just long enough for him to jump over the fence

for I went out there to try to get

from whose

fighting so much I was

fairly strong enough to rolled back over the fence

but that seems me has been

a reoccurring dream probably five hundred

time whatever life sometimes I would be Harry sometimes

Harry would be me sometimes I tried to kill him sometimes he tried to kill me

times there was nothing wrong with the garage other times I thought I knew what

was wrong

the garage I mean I wasn't there for a while

again it's never about dreams about the emotions

fled it's kind of hard for me to explain to some people

I would like to think that find a guide

Arctic trying to explain gap which

I don't I could just bring up I had

no knowledge of murder

news I did you know it anything about it day we showed up to a good

mom or a ticket house its wash

shield page wheaties see it is that your going

and still talk wanna stay and their

will mom leans into the car is watch guys

old family that was murdered

here with and that very same its

asked us she thought that ball Ross

Christmas just kinda liked looking at everything what was my reaction

Street I don't know that he had so

people murdered seven-years-old really know what a murderous

what do you recall when you first moved into the house

that I thought I could like it here I thought that the doc

was gonna be my hang out on the boat house and

you know I I was really anxious and looking forward to

to be I figured it was big enough to keep George do away from me and

everybody had enough room in

you know this is this is pretty cool

I could work with us

moving and a we go

a this was a self move this was the family pack to drop factor on boxes if

it breaks it's your fault cuz you look back box right by the time

we've got Amityville was mid-morning

an 11 something like that my job was

was just to to haul boxes that said

I helped back to drop in on one pack drop and I ran down to the bone yard and

ran up to the top 10 couldn't believe

this is like on the water with Paul kids in the pool

boat house in I got right inside the front door

and i'm looking at this picture right here where you can see straight up the

staircase

ran all the way up to see how far the house would call when

slight literally twice as big as anything else we had looked at

I loved it thought it was great soldier move

I'll maybe a quarter of the way into the truck

father ratios up

but I song come n

I was in the truck dump on boxes of at that point a

I wanted to know which was my room cuz I wanted father rate to come to my room to

good also my wrong so

did your mom just call him over to left the house

lot of people will do that that's just a normal occurrence

so when did you start really feeling that

a sense about ease okay the until the first two hours being in the house I

mean I was confused with the whole father Ray

in areas and he's getting this holy water in the Far Niente page in the

Bible he went in the house around a good boxes at dropped in

you're talking with my mom and and I go back down get another box but I'm afraid

he's gone

well had you met you had met I didn't even speak tool

mom what if I the rain leaf what's going on

and she said I don't know but played you know

he'll be back I will see him on Sunday subsequently the next box was to go up

to the playroom

and when I went in there there was problem

she for a five hundred flies

and we're talking this is made December

Long Island

yeah I started gallon

mom came running up stairs and she stopped screaming

nervous it finally started clicking

in her mind I'm not sure what it was why father Ray just left

I would stand there with the newspaper smashing them on the wall and smashing

them on the window

and knowing that in five minutes I just killed about a hundred flies

I went downstairs tell Mom to have a calm of to be all proud skilled flies

and the dead flies are gone she would look at me and say but did you do

you did what

where's the newspaper puts and I just left a newspaper on the floor

was too dead flies

and

that's when my confusion started when did you start

feeling sensing any unease

or what was the offer and my mother was is it would could not she was able to

describe

anything if I walked in I said mom what strong she would tell me immediately

what's going on

and she wouldn't keep things from I'll

and now she's keeping secrets from and I

those mom I told we had disagreements here and

she which given me these bullshit excuses

or not answering passing of that I wanna know what's going on

the housing to react differently or people reacted differently

to the house your mother said she had a feeling

love peace and didn't even want to go out to do

normal chores and things

george always said he couldn't get warm and he was

admitted to becoming more aggressive

and then om one of the things that they

there's a whole list of things that they told me about that I'm

put bullet points here there was subtle personality changes

in all the family members basically that olive you were affected you had

very short tempers violence was commonplace

and they said that one point and George that this

that he and Kathy took wooden spoons

to you and your brother and sister om

and beat them with that one night and or did you guys around the house

like drill sergeants you recall that

yet while that happens

probably fifty times after that to solvents

didn't happen work did have before you moved into the house it happened a

couple times in George's house before we move to Amityville

do you think because he had no parent skills and he was only ever

yeah marine that's how we know how to handle things I said this is going to be

a cakewalk

did you try and protect you from or were you expecting her to protect you

no actual on my mother to protect

me fun I'm here to protect

her from you I had to

speak to George InSAR and call him George

call only mister lots or so

you had to call mister lots for sure but that when he was your stepfather

so to move on

had my father so

you guys were just repulsed by one another at a molecular

level I don't we can say I one another because George is in here

but you didn't I'm sorry I can't help but smile when you say that

why do you think he's here know that he's

dead now you're happy that he's dead yes ma'am I

and I'm

and I'm freeman I had nothing to do i'd

attempted him fifty times

he tried to kill 'em yeah the

in

six months totaled

story dry art

back years ago yes go

good as you see on a ship stock

of

talking about white stuff where you are right now

like stones pretty complex got that

all small-town charm I've been the UP

yeah I don't know can I say that place a UPS

the United Parcel Service driver

for better than 15 years in college point like stone

I know I'm gonna say fifty percent of the neighborhood on a first name basis

that was one of the reasons I was able to stick around in this town

after them

movies came now everything went public people know me as Greg

economy is believed people know me as game why

well because my name was that in this movie and then my name was

sack that way my name like that that movie was making sure if I didn't tell

you the story that's they just thought

and the girl downstairs said ticket from Amityville you and

hates that's weird for you

yeah in the end the they don't know until I give them the answer

yeah so this would be like a daily confusion Dane I learned a lot from you

think of yourself as the Amityville

guy when you think private inside yourself

because I am The Amityville rise I it's not

that like who you think of yourself as first thought no ok and Danny

okay okay so it's not your first thought about you and and you're talking to

Danny

yeah annual bodyguard right all I do is walk around protecting that generated

that's right exactly that's what I keep thinking that you have worked so hard

to be yourself whereas most people just get to be themselves

you know there's a wanna says ProCare

would George my stepfather

would introduce himself as the Amica no

he couldn't be more proud have anything I'm that guy

yeah my name's my storage my family you all this is all about me

yeah its biggest fuckin asshole you get over me

did you feel physically threatened living inside the cells

I gotta be honest with you

to me want to use to get to this point

II I kinda got my kicks out a

for Phil something in my life that how do you mean

I mean in this distinct

fucked up side of my brain I couldn't possibly top those with my own cream

match in Asian

well there was bald spots in the house

in hallways rules things like that

while the furnished is she acted

fire Scott half a cord

soap:body for choking itself you know

blankets for war like formal

traps dollars house now weathered

draft walk in the front door the fireplace

to the left the time mister war into the dining room there's the cage

there would be literally

twenty degrees difference 5

stamps sparkle my gives

with the Alliance head picture

is next to the bathroom a

on the second floor the very shocked or

that platform staircase and

all spots hidden change

there was what I observed happens

in the beginning is not something that

just one person saw the entire family standing there

watching the fuck garage door slam up and slammed down and slam

up and slammed down and the dog is fucking himself

so I would go out there with George he would pick me up and I would do

I would be hanging off one side of the door and he would be pulling down on the

other side of the door

and we'd get in we block everything back up with the Haus

we're going back into the house

my sister's room was above the pool

in the back yard to the right what did you see

holes in the wind it would have been what looked like Inc

cartoon character I love a

a

and angry pegged

with like wolf like teeth

and red eyes

laser beam red eyes

and at that closing the door seeing this from my sister's room

I ran into the house faster than george did

mated upstairs to her room and

the rocking chair shit in there back and George went into a room in share

up and he's looking at the chairman is looking at the legs in you

thing on the floor and there's no logical explanation why this rocking

chair is good doing this for 25

I'd think it was a force that was beyond my control

I believe that there is a such thing as evil and I think that it can manifest

itself in any way shape or form that it chooses

at will and I was a victim to that

what you believe I don't believe i won 90 up

I know thats so others past rights

right talking standing right there

issued that was like

the most horrible that person and that's

house nope

I had just gotten in a fight with George drop

so but I got you second landing

all the last thing to do birds or up

why I I was project

up the stairs into the wall others like 15 cheap

stand-up

and my body

just like starts I no longer have control of myself

I'm standing on the floor

look at my mother I don't know what's course doesn't know what to say to pay

and she jumps around

shock like something just scraped or

touched or help character

Jimmy through me I have to describe what it felt like a weepy

like and on this after being shocked

somewhere in the rule

which each

was like Shop Hop page like

with a cargo crackled and that stuck with me

at least a decade daily basis

anybody ever saw me with the Tier II

edge like not should my mother

I asp route

want to attack wide

ok she was try and all sort

disliked you all rock

who was possessed

George

and myself you feel that you were possessed

I was a yeah I think that would happen at some point was

extremely so far beyond my control

yeah you mean in terms of your violence towards to work his towards you

I think no I mean I mean

know this had nothing to do with a judas having to do with me no longer having

control of my body

on my mind what I'm saying or what i'd how long did that last

I felt like wildlife

at our 25-35 minutes

you

men were infested with violent reactions while women Kathy said

were charmed by the house and overcome with the feeling was sedated

the boathouse was a source a poltergeist activity

lots alleged he had gone out to check it one night and found a green slime which

he dubbed

poltergeist puke losing all

over the place after january 6

the Feast of the Epiphany when they took down the Christmas decorations

all hell broke loose Kathy said

it started now as any

rentable fouled

Tom students use type smell stench

we started going around opening all the windows and the doors

all over the house I've got up to play around

flies was trying to open a champ window

and getting open in like Superman while

strongest thing I ever did 10 and my brother and two

the room he got in and I turned around to look at me I got it

and the Winter Games slamming down

and crushed my fingers

to the point it was skin on skin

left-hand and right-hand

shattered

this section if this finger this novel's never been this

min you can see that ride ok my kinky one

and compared to the other you see you then and

from the window sill I'm smashed

as was both hands and

to

shortage my mother my brother

whoever George's friend was there help me move shit around

to get the window of my fingers

and my mom starts fishin for I said she wants to make phone calls and get ice

and do all these things

in in her turning around to get a rag

to put the ice cubes and put in my hand as we're sitting in the kitchen

the side door opening

very slowly and we will stop all we're doing to pay attention

and there was nobody there wow I hate tunes

fuckin had times where you make me dues

I'm I just kind it's pretty sad alright a fork in spirit comes into the house

into the room through the door bombs into my mother

walks room my hands like this that are hanging off the table knocks the peanut

butter and jelly knife down

onto the floor and sit down and

this spot here

is your

arming buzzing what time noise so it just sat there or something

made an impression on the sea yes

what did you guys did wish to

most people look at the house yes well i i she's

I'm I'm mom can and ice you know what happened specifically

we're doing this and she's rap in my hands and then that three seconds it

took to look back it was gone

where was the worst games of stairs trying to figure out what happened to

the window

wise in stock so as I'm sitting there

my mother flips over my hands she's looking back it's

like workers were talkin skin on skin here go

my hands swell to the size

of a child's baseball

five times their normal size

that today to the donners and in one sacking

acting ships this

so that pinky see it still film from

that still sent did they take you to the doctor

my assignment that's every night March 1976 was to stay in the house

report on any unusual activity a number psychics parapsychology is clear way in

so that the man I love this were also there

determine once and for all about house was possessed by some demonic forces

georgian Kathy Lutz yes the the channel five news about the earlier

if there was a demonic force in the house that watched by the sir

he did not manifest itself physically why we the psychic suggest that the

house had been neutralized the atmosphere not right at the moment

that perhaps the demons well they were scared off by the crowd

that our cameras self effort that was a landfill

I came out on camera in our newsroom

away I might add the piece like this of anime

asked if I was scared during my night at the house at 112 Ocean Avenue

no I was not it would be more accurate to me to say

that the two hours I spent watching the movie Friday night

with rowdy disruptive pot-smoking audience

was much more of our the six hours I spent that house at that would leave

trouble film looks as though we're convinced

themselves and they took to mend at tremendous personal cost

we wanted to find a story we wanted to believe them they came across

as very sincere irradiated the story

which we headed to quickly get on the air I went back and looked at

every for that film there was nothing on

film except the people who were on the telling their story the thing that

I would find the Los curious thing the night

that I was there would be the sensation

bill place the metropolis cameraman's at the Blue

he had these palpitations miss them and would covered so

serious assignments war zones Ryan's and any

so the was overcome by something and he could not explain

he said he had no heart condition but he climb the steps

sup stop camera down and

I'll explain another the unexplainable lol I do recall

Lorraine Warren when she went to trance saying it was a demonic force from deep

in the bowels of the earth

love it wasn't the sewing room yes the sewing room

was the room which supposedly has the story has it where the

demonic force was supposed to be the strongest all the rain 1 I'm you we went

upstairs

we sat on the sewing room we have amble going

I remember rain that she had never felt such a force that she felt that night it

was like feeling like she was in hell

the rain also produced photograph which

claims that there is the image oh boy this is one of the pictures that their

photographer took that night

you and I both know that there were no children and no animals in the house

that night think look at it but then again try

for great photographed think it's

the let's look at the countryside for just what I know I'm not arguing at the

Greek and disputing anything I've been in the house I was there the night of

the murders

I have the Weber interview that supposedly expose the whole thing

alright so

we've all been involved extensively what there's no argument there

but what about the arguments that surface

from one source for the other that for example

reason they had to leave the house is because they

let it foreclose they just didn't have the money was more money let the land

serving business was just not doing very well and then he has a cell house

couldn't sell house had to get out couldn't pay it

as as a as a starting point will talk about

okay and I starting point well I wasn't privy to their finances run

however they got the house for

eighty thousand dollars a purchase price of with the possessions

you can always assume that this realtor Salam

house up must at some point if they didn't already know that this

in for this he just didn't think so it was amazing

so they did okay didn't know essays makes it even worse they did

not only do you know that it's that it was a scene of a mass murder now the

your the belongings affect now

couple get let's play let's play devil's advocate for one second I'll

I've heard all the stories about they got into financial straits

but how could you could they didn't have enough time to get that far behind

if they were only in the house for 28 days

now as to the point could he have been

dreaming up a scheme yeah absolutely could have

did you did you have pics could you find any evidence

that he understood the local supernatural before they moved into the

house

that but George what specifically what George Lutz

always maintained to me

was that he was a non-practicing methodist

the rumors that I've heard second third fourth hand

over the years with that he had had an abiding interest in the occult

I think that lots triggered something of by being open to it

by previous activity possibly on

the part over money to fail they were fooling around and got themselves in

very deep was something dark and something evil

that they totally didn't understand know where they were

you know we were invited by the crime groups to come

after the much is left the family then moved in

and I'll this was in December a77

so we went through the entire place took pictures we took infrared pictures

and I had a psychic one man covering up

living that I've worked with for many many years Ceron make a right walks the

halls

but it's what you think said while and I said

walked and he said tensile ritual much it costs

homes she was with the lots involved in ritual magic

this was all about black magic being done in this house

and he fell the residual effect South with the psychological

lose Natori experiences that people thought were real

but they're not really real our parent only induced

do or allegations that he knew more about you called them the the

supernatural

before they moved in than he's admitted or wherever did admit this life

haiti's review had any experience before they're called

with the supernatural ever before we can believe in I was

purposely nosing into george's business but

but there were things when you walked into george's house

it wasn't inviting and welcoming if you read his

a bookcase

you know would range from

transcendental meditation to Buddhism

satanic history mind

control typeof auction hypnosis

books sky was into some pretty dark stuff

when I started thumbing through these books in

they're sacrificing virgins devil worship

rallies you know shit like this and I'm reading this in the book

and I walk over to my mother and she just

crack me over the head said put this back and don't take it off the shelf

and I looked at her and I said absolutely not

you marry this guy you move me to his house

what the hell is he into stupid menfolk

george was not right

that you can see that the dead to fear in the kids

and then acknowledgement of

if he's president their Jeff

you know and everyone was I believe

I once I can said there was

a lot of fear and anxiety in our house about it there's something about his

presence that made

30 as child

know something is of with this man not write something

not good I think that

certain people can

trigger things and in this case I think that whatever happened

after round to fail murdered his family

I think it lingered there and I think I was felt the George lots

was the trigger for

what started to happen to that family in Warren always talked about certain

people when we were in the house

the night of March 6 there were a couple people there

that it said we're going from room to room

antagonizing the house or the spirits

well I called the Warrens up what are you in a doing can you come down here

there's this case it's just broke in it's been in the news I gave her

I gave in the rain the background they said sure will come right down

we drove out to the house and george was meeting us there

and George would not go onto the property everything was on the table a

gingerbread house the kathy had made the kids for Christmas

the clothes were you know strewn about newspapers

there was food in the refrigerator just look like they had gone out for the day

Lorraine went into one room which later one of the bedrooms and it turned out to

have been running to fails room and she

back to read out up there and so after that

I took ed McGrane to meet Kathy

George and the kids last time I was here

nine maybe 10

commit 0

of

well thank you how are you

on gun glad to be here

all which good to see you very very

good to see you I haven't seen I'm sorry about think company so long

song you can never be another and

I'll known no never me we'll talk about

I'd yes yes he was a man

the greenstein this

I thats feinstein okay he's so mean

command usafe well can flip this house is life

this is feinstein and Lady Jane

right here this is I'm stein and Lady Jane

ans the then

right here

is his twin identical

when no way yes identical twin roosters

the I

they're creating you Lorraine

and my mom had a very very tight relationship the two

they were really the only people

that could offer psalm

typeof condolence to the situation that had

had happened yes let's go downstairs where we can sit and talk

spoke

what took place in house

if this true personification of evil

how do you explain

I'll

I haz Cassie if we could take

you three kids for a walk on the beach and that's when you can just walked

to I'm what did they tell you

what we didn't want to frighten them we talk Kathy

and we like you guys talk everything member this

and they went about noises and they were talking

about how he would stand at the top of the stairs

and in yell and scream about marching bands

that we're downstairs and runs for all rolled up

do you think that George triggered

whatever was in the house that it was attracted to him almost like

his personality it and

it's a strong possibility it is

a strong possibility but you

you had to kinda piled yourself

to take your John I mean that

you had what can you tell if tells

case anything to defend

I have to be careful with my words

when it comes to its how was he has a father

it wasn't and

no father parent skills whatsoever

whatsoever

who did you turn to I'm removed from the family

you know as very young teenager and

you know mime my mother and George wants subsequently won

getting a divorce years later yes my mom had a handful you know

River since her own family and she was very shaken

I was out find myself in life and she was happy for me

so was kinda had a well that's going but you never

you never did anything had so i mean a

but he how all

for you when George left the scene

16-17

and cell

at that point where you I was already gone for years at that time

and you were gone yeah where we do. do my own thing

and and I couldn't have been happier for

you know when I found out that mom was getting a divorce

finally after all these years and I didn't want it ever have to do a mom I

told you so

but I did I told you so so many left home when he was 15 sixty

where did you go %uh

to the desert 11

jeff is here I did how do I stayed with friends friends stayed with me and took

a while you know which is very easy to be home was in the desert it's it's

actually quite accommodating

doesn't get cold you would get cold at night

its roast and

daytime yeah love good food

to did feel character that

when

when did that happen you became so bear with me and a I went to my mom

and I said look somebody's really gonna get hurt

around here and and I G I and I asked her to let me go

mom please where did you go 13 world

it's not about where I when I be in the back parking lot behind a dumpster

happy star thanks because nobody's bothered you were still

it wasn't about where okay no with me it's never about

where I okay by you know this is

this is where the party story is nobody knows what's going on behind

our front door what was going on right on time mom please let me go

okay let me go okay and

took a couple days and she me pick up a peanut butter and jelly sandwiches

washed my socks and shit like had G-eleven ago

now as brave her critical

yeah can I bring it on the personality of people that lived in the house

can I do that to have the right to do that

you know I don't have the right to

to anything like that cell and you've

with the clergy clergy weren't to

forward 29

go in there and do anything more and told

my husband please not going housing can

police its gonna kill you

don't go in that house again

that the last time that to go back

yes

what about Danny Danny pose a threat

Danny was a little boy

and it wasn't just a young innocent child we were baptized

yes so see they have that protection

too much kept the faith have

yes I good

I'm is is there anybody

here that does not believe in God

you very chime in now you because I'm gonna call you out on it

you you what's your answer

well you believe

still the jury's still out what does that mean you know it's

experiences that so are you saying

get to a nightsticks okay are I

what it's at a respected into what I'm saying here

I'm opening this and there's a relic

the across the Christ was crucified on

you know can I don't have respect for that is

to bring out well Lorraine

as another Roman Catholic who believes

certainly Jesus was confronted with doubters

doubting Thomas so okay

here's

their is the word you

right thing the True Cross

Christ was crucified this is written

I the clergymen this

this cross is good in true the good

you do with this crisis is that good

you do for him

did you take that into the Amityville house I didn't have

I didn't have this in that time

can't now here

this is here

from Padre Pio

I did have this I had this

in my hand nobody knew it

nobody knew I carry this relic

I'll time times February 23rd

and March 6 nobody new that I had

this and 10

he appear

hydrate PO here to you

seeking and you feel that that

protected you most definitely

it like vindication

that's how Iran tell I see it

this is amazing

you have faith

you can you case you can kiss yes

means

simple is

his

thank you

scam

it through this this was with add

all the time in the hospital it never

truly recovering I brought him home

unit for years in

what would you

say to somebody who says okay this kid obviously

has a big problem with his stepfather

but that's not so unusual they could put it down to okay you've now got a blended

family and it's not the Brady Bunch

aka okay Danny skipping school he's doing whatever he can to

be defiant there was a small part of me that look forward to get in trouble and

would do anything

you know you cats like when

there was anger in the house more shit was going on in the house

the more dramatic in the more dysfunctional it got

the worst sitka did you feel like the energy was feeling of love your

aggressions tension yes yes I've

that's come up many times in life long therapy yes

and has anybody ever said to you okay Danny maybe this is just manifestations

baby you imagined all this

maybe use in the coolidge to well what do you say when somebody says that

get up and I won't go and discuss

I stopped trying to persuade people about

okay really long time ago

what they could put tell me what makes you so sure

so convinced that this really happened to you that you didn't

a mat that its you didn't imagine it and I'm sure you've had those

those feelings were you saying OK three-part second-guessing myself

yeah but is there any has there ever been any point in time were you saying

OK

I was an angry Kid I'm

really ticked off did you ever doubt yourself

that this happened no

DG never had a point yells at all to clear an all too real and

what I saw I know I saw and I could describe it to you twenty years from now

exactly like I did right now

nothing's gonna change did you have any sense that whatever

was there was would follow you

of the property

when did that start to happen

well one around involves both

on school

my mother and three of us were basically

heaped which george was injured as

is personal right and then

only slowly he was he watching entering shop

world as we met him he was involved

his believes that which practiced

one is to be able to control somebody else's

mines is to be able to keep object masterful

heart

I'd talk top

I think somewhere along the line that

George beliefs and practices and things that he was

directly involved with triggered in was a catalyst to what was going on

house was kinda like a magic trick gone bad

control of what was involved with laying of hands

and and recall that when you can move objects with the mind in woods

telekinesis kinases thought projections and

when did this start to since

first minute I walked into his house in realize

should two sons pixels well I mean if you walked into my eye

if you walked into my house and you look to my bookcase you would pretty much

see a lot love things on accusations by rivals with bookmarks and

pictures you photographed all on wall but I have a lot of books on site on

various aspects

love parapsychology the the supernatural

I have a couple books on with witchcraft and magic but let's face it

I mean what do you think the chances realistically what do you think the

chances were

that no matter how many books George read that he was going to be able to

start moving objects with asthma

I witnessed you witnessed what

exactly george's ability to move

objects with out touch them with his mind

in his garage before we even got there

he was in the garage with his friends

you can ranches just like that

like this walk over with them down

takes them a couple minutes to get there it takes about 12 is gone

and it would take about a minute to drop it by he kindling

and I was not supposed to know their search which tumbled in on an

after-school

my mother didn't know I'm run into their

I don't know I didn't know if she knew at that time my way told she looked to

me like what

colder out into the garage and I want you to show my mom what you just did

right now

and the guys got all and last didn't say a word

and I have a doctors appointment at night to I when I told the doctor

second by second where didn't offer an explanation

he just kept praised we think he said

role he had conversation

for drop me off using comes in 15 minutes later they talk for another 20

minutes

go at this point I with the doctor I would recommend it to your mother

find a new boyfriend or he

he needs your son needs to go for tester

something this is this is just an incredible tale from

there's a doctor out there somewhere with

that story in his file in handwriting

people

can exaggerate what they've experienced

they can exaggerate a little or exaggerate a lot they can add details to

an experience to make the story more interesting

%ah and that there are lots of reasons why

people might do that I mean for one thing a we remember

bits and pieces have experience but will fill in the gaps in our memory

with other bits of information things we learned from other places

inferences we drew which we decide probably happen and we use those two

fill in the gaps memory their also maybe a motivation to remember things in a way

that is a little bit more dramatic

little bit more interesting now believes that

saw his stepfather

move objects without touching

and the question and where did that come from

it might be a speculation that it could have come from

the stepfather saying you know I can do this and the little boy started think I

I saw him do it

and when the story start to change

then it's time to become suspicious I be afraid to be in that house

knowing that there had been a mass murder in again we go back to the whole

thing about it

what is the imagination why starring and just take off

and then the influence a father feeling this on children

who I've been involved in so many these cases with children are so sensitive

not going to what's happening in an environment possibly power normally

but also to the Q's they get from their parents

most people do not want the glare these

they do not wanting names we feel because of their business associations

and everything else I can be effected

they don't want to expose their children very important

to not any loving parent does not want to

inflict on a child anyone who does that

is is demonic is the so-called forces that were released in this case

psychological scars is something that are hard to expose

and and share with people and

while I'm an extremely emotional person by nature and

that doesn't mean I like to share when you watch him tell the stories he

he looks very believable and he tells the story and away

that is almost guaranteed to get other people to believe him

its detail he's confident he expresses it was a motion

those are the things that people look to you to decide that they're hearing an

authentic story

in my opinion the suggestion with this ten-year-old boy

started when he was 10 helium

with adults who believed in the paranormal who believed in the end call

call perhaps were who had books on me paranormal

telekinesis who may have been talking about things

and then discussions family members interviews

ok their site he soaked and suggestions

I think one excellent example

is this story about a priest coming to

bless the house and then for five years later

there's a film that comes out which shows that that priest

is overtaken by a swarm of flies and now

this once 10-year-old boy now older

has got a recollection remembering flies

hundreds and hundreds of lives so did he get that

from the post-event suggestion of the film

%ah or not

the last night in the house when did you leave

was a school day was a regular day during week

my brother and myself

share levitation experience in our bedroom

in our beds this would be a arvit here

because my bed was on during

this window was bad news this way

on that wall so we would be like toe to toe that way

wrong we both woke up that

are headboards are footboards

word smashing each other and hanging off the ceiling

on the last night that were in there the boys hats were being watched it up and

slammed down overhead at me but I could not get up out of bed

happy levitated I had to grab her to keep her from going off

this is after she had

turned into and an old

flown really agree old woman

that literally took hours and hours for it to go away

we talk we try to talk to on the right number of times we've got on static

hung up on unable to call now government office and be able to talk to him and

tell him what was going on we ask you to come back to the house wanted you know

the bosnian

worked yes is why we were still there that's when I was slammed home

you're leaving I had no say in moving

Monday say go back to back going to Grandma's just get in the van were

getting at

whatever I don't know never coming back

here no leaving every fuckin thing I've ever owned

okay see you just ran out you were all in night clothes

guy was wearing whatever God said you know i'd

and jobs are pretty sure me in on that said

they weren't going back to the house the left

all their possessions there but the bank foreclose on the house

they were the subject of intense scrutiny George wasn't working anymore

kathy was not working she had three kids and they moved they

they often moved to the other side of the country you know they wanted to

get as far away from Amityville as they could we were looking for family therapy

and I said mom

we can even talk about this in our own house in Cornwall

with more logical explanations and

and now you wanna tell the world's

what we can't even figure out ourselves why would you want to do that

how are we gonna do that

why you do in a there's nobody in the neighborhood

doesn't know my mom and she's going on TV shows and

yet I should dare and you know in school is

as a grade school student teaches your movie was on last night

really happened what would you say I

you wanna just like could punch you in the face and leave

right they were chased all over the country I mean literally changed

the kids couldn't go to school harassed

I mean this before pop Arazi they weren't they would leave them alone no

phone calls

not thing that's how we track their movements burst through the meat

once the Amityville thing

happened in I started changing mentally and emotionally

I'm just redirected everything and became hyper aggressive

apparently think I D large advanced

to promotional torrent it was going to be.

for probably close to a year if not maybe a little more or they're going on

this world

swarm

wound up getting dumped off J Catholic Church

monastery school

I Caden authority problem I didn't care

preach were beating the shit out of me performing extensions

which if I'm not mistaken they don't want to talk about

tell me about that what I mean performing exorcisms

performing axis isms like speaking in tongues laying on hands

holy water splashing violent Falken

the bodily convulsions up

which five axis is and do I need to explain why would they have done this

because I was possessed by a spirit that I could not get rid of mining

so I ran away from the church a couple times

priest free to share that I'd

said Georgian capital any communication with you during this time

stumped you on I didn't talk to my mother for probably the better part of

the year

in and to be honest but she showed up

I don't have much to say

in many ways it will follow you for a long long long time to come

why did you go public full before we went public

some other people stand for us and

widely exaggerated stories and this

on

in order to convict him those things

you to live with us sweet most

world

that I no longer exist

I could not separate

reality from what was called

came points where

it was like this family nightmare come true I could not

to see it was almost like being awake in your own tree

but I used to hate living a lifestyle a structured lights

all of a sudden you know

in a matter of like six-month period

this whole time you know

old house moved

have no friends discarded

shit outta me mom no longer mom I used to know

I would say between 12 and 15

probably ran away about a times for a total

about two years I would have been about

to stern 15 something I had a problem

I was gone later lived in the orange group

Salt Lake got a job in a gas station

in go to school in

what has been the worst

part a the whole

Amityville experience for you that I didn't get to tell my story the first

time

are there any silver linings in the class anything come and have any deal

you feel was good I'm gonna go with string

be on strike and I didn't know that was there a time

when the hauntings or the

strange incidence stop world they had

stopped for me in Arizona while I was by myself

do you believe they stop for the rest of the family

no I

ended invoked the only thing in life that that that scares me

the only things the in my life that that i truly fear

all the things that are just beyond my control

I'm not talking about man-made situations that are beyond your control

there is

and elements love for whatever

label we want to put our name you know easel tomorrow

conspirator whatever the fuck you want to call it it exists

under whatever label you wanna put it on and

sad thats

the hardest thing for me to do continued with I

because I know that it's true and

it

in my feeling about it

has always the let's is may have experience with item

what I call low-level param from some other hallucinogenic

something that noone whose engine so the question becomes

let's say we could do this all over it and let's say we kept the process an

investigator

went and talk to the Lexus and took that testimony

could the ethical hard as we know it had been spoke

my feeling is now I do even with the back any fans have backdrop of those

mass murders

your I do not belief based upon what the Lexus claims that the experienced in

that house

would be enough to make this case now nobody could have predicted

what has instead so something happen

the question is why and the effect psychologically

on the family I do believe the losses

believe that they experience something that was unusual

I wanted to believe the story I want to find some evidence that it was true

as a reporter we are naturally very skeptical

and I C you know show me the evidence

and that night I saw no evidence anything

that was unusual in that house I do believe

that their forces out there that

are beyond comprehension of our normal five senses

I think that there were other forces at work and I think

it would be very very hard for

a boy who had just turned 10 years old to distinguish between

in some cases fact fantasy reality

I think george's particular personality

made him susceptible to that

and it fit of him what you think danny is at right

blaming him for the haunting to take place because Danny

blames george for taking his mother away and for

have it is convenient for him don't think it's just convenient I think he

really believes it

I mean in a sense there was a was a loss of control

very hard have gone through life

have in the past been trying to people not believe you 90

like a mouse exactly I totally understand now why you can smash it

I just wanted somebody to believe me

right must make you feel crazy not having people believe you

would you be willing this summit to a lie detector test

a polygraph

I've been asked that many times

and I've had doctors asked priests ask me that my friends asked me

my ex-wife at that is there something

at that little electronic devices going to tell you that you cannot believe more

than me

yeah what is that

I'm just listen to you was wayne feat and

what say you I mean would you or would you know

law on have words with you after this is done

people and shit like down on me

which is not funny

wouldn't be doing this if I thought they needed a fucking lie detector test

when I yes who I feel I need he's gonna satisfy your fucking mind

I'm not saying you're lined and I'm just asking you

lot of people will be asking are will I know that

I knew that a long before you asked well I'm his voice in the

opinion on the audience you my voice i guess i cnt

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