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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,592 --> 00:00:13,223 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:16,393 --> 00:00:18,603 (gunshots) 3 00:00:18,603 --> 00:00:21,106 REPORTER: A wild shoot‐out on the streets of the Bronx. 4 00:00:21,106 --> 00:00:24,568 Tonight, a 51‐year‐old grandfather shot dead 5 00:00:24,568 --> 00:00:26,069 in broad daylight. 6 00:00:26,987 --> 00:00:29,406 VAN ZELLER: I've seen plenty of violence in my career, 7 00:00:29,406 --> 00:00:31,574 but a professional hit like this caught my attention. 8 00:00:34,452 --> 00:00:37,789 The killing was allegedly part of an ongoing turf war, 9 00:00:37,789 --> 00:00:41,751 but not between rival street gangs or mafia crime families. 10 00:00:42,544 --> 00:00:46,172 These men were from rival motorcycle clubs. 11 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:52,512 KOZLOWSKI: That One Percenter patch is declaring 99% 12 00:00:52,512 --> 00:00:54,848 of everybody else are law‐abiding citizens, 13 00:00:54,848 --> 00:00:57,392 we are the 1% that are the criminals. 14 00:01:00,020 --> 00:01:02,147 They wear that as a badge of honor. 15 00:01:02,147 --> 00:01:06,151 STEWART: Some people might judge us for the symbols that we wear, 16 00:01:06,151 --> 00:01:08,278 but if that makes us outlaws, so be it. 17 00:01:10,655 --> 00:01:13,742 VAN ZELLER: These clubs are a contradiction on two wheels. 18 00:01:14,242 --> 00:01:17,037 Proudly and loudly public on American roads. 19 00:01:17,037 --> 00:01:19,164 Holy (bleep). 20 00:01:20,373 --> 00:01:22,917 And yet, notoriously secret 21 00:01:22,917 --> 00:01:25,545 about what membership truly entails. 22 00:01:25,795 --> 00:01:28,715 MAN: You live outside the law. 23 00:01:28,715 --> 00:01:30,133 There's just that 1% of guys 24 00:01:30,133 --> 00:01:32,093 that don't give a (bleep) about the law... 25 00:01:32,093 --> 00:01:33,553 About the (bleep) cops... 26 00:01:33,970 --> 00:01:35,555 None of that (bleep). 27 00:01:36,806 --> 00:01:38,767 VAN ZELLER: What's motivating the violence? 28 00:01:38,767 --> 00:01:40,602 Who's calling the shots? 29 00:01:41,478 --> 00:01:44,814 And what does it really mean to be in the 1%? 30 00:01:58,870 --> 00:02:02,457 (train approaching) 31 00:02:08,004 --> 00:02:09,339 VAN ZELLER: Within the biker world, 32 00:02:09,339 --> 00:02:11,424 certain motorcycle clubs have a reputation 33 00:02:11,424 --> 00:02:13,718 for violence and secrecy. 34 00:02:14,844 --> 00:02:17,180 The Vagos are one of those clubs. 35 00:02:18,181 --> 00:02:20,016 STEWART: Traditionally, our club has been 36 00:02:20,016 --> 00:02:22,060 one of the most tight‐lipped of them all. 37 00:02:22,310 --> 00:02:26,189 But I am a fan of opening people's eyes. 38 00:02:27,565 --> 00:02:29,818 VAN ZELLER: That's how I end up at this bar 39 00:02:30,068 --> 00:02:32,070 with the club's international president, 40 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:33,571 a man they call... 41 00:02:33,571 --> 00:02:34,698 STEWART: There we go. 42 00:02:34,698 --> 00:02:36,199 VAN ZELLER: Bigfoot. 43 00:02:36,950 --> 00:02:39,911 STEWART: I started riding Harley Davidsons in my mid‐20s 44 00:02:39,911 --> 00:02:41,538 and it didn't take long to discover 45 00:02:41,538 --> 00:02:44,374 that these One Percenter clubs 46 00:02:44,374 --> 00:02:48,545 dictate the life and, I wanted to have a say. 47 00:02:48,545 --> 00:02:50,130 VAN ZELLER: The term "One Percenter" comes from the 48 00:02:50,130 --> 00:02:52,757 American Motorcycle Association 49 00:02:52,757 --> 00:02:56,344 which claims that 99% of bikers are law‐abiding citizens. 50 00:02:58,304 --> 00:03:01,391 The implication proudly embraced by certain clubs like the Vagos, 51 00:03:02,350 --> 00:03:05,603 is that the other 1% live by their own rules. 52 00:03:06,730 --> 00:03:09,023 STEWART: We say to the world we understand 53 00:03:09,023 --> 00:03:11,609 what American written law is, 54 00:03:11,609 --> 00:03:13,903 but we believe some of it to be horse (bleep). 55 00:03:14,904 --> 00:03:17,115 If you say something horrible to me, 56 00:03:17,115 --> 00:03:19,409 the law says I'm not allowed to punch you in the mouth for it. 57 00:03:19,409 --> 00:03:23,288 VAN ZELLER: Right. STEWART: We say we can. 58 00:03:23,288 --> 00:03:25,206 And we accept whatever punishment comes with that. 59 00:03:26,124 --> 00:03:27,584 And let me tell you this. 60 00:03:27,584 --> 00:03:30,170 We don't (bleep) hate cops. 61 00:03:30,170 --> 00:03:33,590 But what we, we don't like are the dirty portion of them, 62 00:03:33,590 --> 00:03:38,052 who like to stand before a group of mainstream media press, 63 00:03:38,052 --> 00:03:41,347 and then, they like to call us the Mafia on two wheels. 64 00:03:41,639 --> 00:03:42,682 VAN ZELLER: They call you gangs, right? 65 00:03:42,682 --> 00:03:44,309 STEWART: Yeah, gangs. 66 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:45,393 VAN ZELLER: They don't call you clubs. They call you gangs. 67 00:03:45,393 --> 00:03:46,019 STEWART: They love to use that word. 68 00:03:46,019 --> 00:03:47,937 Gang, gang, gang. 69 00:03:48,271 --> 00:03:49,856 VAN ZELLER: Why is it that there's so much, um, 70 00:03:49,856 --> 00:03:52,984 animosity between different clubs? 71 00:03:53,485 --> 00:03:56,321 STEWART: I wouldn't say that there is. 72 00:03:56,321 --> 00:03:58,615 VAN ZELLER: So you guys are best friends with all the other clubs. 73 00:03:58,615 --> 00:04:00,033 STEWART: I wouldn't say that either. 74 00:04:00,033 --> 00:04:02,368 Our club motto is "We give what we get". 75 00:04:02,368 --> 00:04:04,037 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 76 00:04:04,037 --> 00:04:06,039 STEWART: And sometimes it results in some really rough stuff. 77 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:08,708 VAN ZELLER: What about murder? STEWART: What about it? 78 00:04:08,708 --> 00:04:11,002 VAN ZELLER: That you guys have been involved in murder. 79 00:04:11,002 --> 00:04:14,422 STEWART: Well, every once in a while, 80 00:04:14,422 --> 00:04:17,383 a melee between a couple of guys or a couple of clubs go at it. 81 00:04:17,383 --> 00:04:20,678 Maybe, maybe a guy dies. 82 00:04:21,721 --> 00:04:23,598 When we go into this life, 83 00:04:23,598 --> 00:04:25,683 we know that that is something that could happen. 84 00:04:26,518 --> 00:04:29,229 OFFICER: Members of the Vagos motorcycle gang were armed. 85 00:04:30,396 --> 00:04:32,565 VAN ZELLER: The Vagos have a bloody history. 86 00:04:32,565 --> 00:04:35,109 OFFICER: They are an immediate threat to the public safety. 87 00:04:35,109 --> 00:04:37,445 VAN ZELLER: But it's hard to get anyone to say 88 00:04:37,445 --> 00:04:39,197 what's behind the violence. 89 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,158 One of the things that you hear all the time is that 90 00:04:42,158 --> 00:04:44,619 "Motorcycle clubs are involved in drug trafficking." 91 00:04:45,161 --> 00:04:46,621 STEWART: It's false. 92 00:04:46,621 --> 00:04:48,289 VAN ZELLER: And that's not something you've ever witnessed, 93 00:04:48,289 --> 00:04:49,958 or saw, or you do not condone that? 94 00:04:49,958 --> 00:04:53,086 STEWART: As far as the Vagos motorcycle club being 95 00:04:53,086 --> 00:04:59,175 some amazingly disorganized yet organized drug empire, 96 00:04:59,968 --> 00:05:01,094 forget about it. 97 00:05:01,094 --> 00:05:02,720 Not a chance. 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,598 I mean, of course, I'm on film, I wouldn't say it if we were, 99 00:05:05,598 --> 00:05:07,642 but I mean, it's utterly ridiculous. 100 00:05:10,019 --> 00:05:12,689 I don't know what every single guy does for a living. 101 00:05:12,689 --> 00:05:14,983 I mean, I have no doubt that there might be a couple of guys 102 00:05:14,983 --> 00:05:16,901 that are up to no good. 103 00:05:16,901 --> 00:05:19,320 I don't judge my brothers, that's their business. 104 00:05:22,031 --> 00:05:24,075 VAN ZELLER: Bigfoot wants me to believe in 105 00:05:24,075 --> 00:05:26,744 what's called "The bad apple" defense. 106 00:05:26,744 --> 00:05:29,998 The idea that the entire club isn't criminal, 107 00:05:29,998 --> 00:05:32,000 just a few bad apples. 108 00:05:33,376 --> 00:05:36,004 I'm suspicious, but I just don't know enough to know 109 00:05:36,004 --> 00:05:37,714 if he's telling me the truth. 110 00:05:38,214 --> 00:05:40,800 I need to better understand these bikers. 111 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,719 I need to go to Sturgis. 112 00:05:57,942 --> 00:06:03,990 (cheering) 113 00:06:08,494 --> 00:06:10,538 VAN ZELLER: For 10 days, every August, 114 00:06:10,538 --> 00:06:13,833 the tiny town of Sturgis, South Dakota gets a little rowdy. 115 00:06:21,382 --> 00:06:22,759 VAN ZELLER: That's what happens when the 116 00:06:22,759 --> 00:06:26,054 city of 7,000 people plays host to half a million. 117 00:06:26,846 --> 00:06:28,681 Most of them in leather. 118 00:06:31,768 --> 00:06:33,102 Who comes to Sturgis? 119 00:06:33,102 --> 00:06:36,397 MONTHEY: Everybody. It's all walks of lives. 120 00:06:36,397 --> 00:06:39,359 You have doctors and attorneys that are here. 121 00:06:39,359 --> 00:06:41,361 You have people that are homeless here 122 00:06:41,361 --> 00:06:43,154 and everybody in between. 123 00:06:45,740 --> 00:06:49,118 VAN ZELLER: But there's a darker side to the Sturgis motorcycle rally. 124 00:06:50,078 --> 00:06:51,996 That's why I'm here. 125 00:06:51,996 --> 00:06:55,875 And why Shane comes too, 14 years running. 126 00:06:55,875 --> 00:06:58,127 MONTHEY: I work for the local police department. 127 00:06:58,711 --> 00:07:01,506 VAN ZELLER: He's one of the more than 100 law enforcement agents 128 00:07:01,506 --> 00:07:04,133 brought in from other cities to patrol the event. 129 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:07,261 Over the years, Sturgis has seen plenty of violence. 130 00:07:08,179 --> 00:07:09,889 MAN: It's really intense, man, they were going at it, 131 00:07:09,889 --> 00:07:11,391 the Mongols and the Hells Angels. 132 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,435 MONTHEY: I've witnessed a shooting. 133 00:07:15,228 --> 00:07:19,107 I've witnessed a stabbing, and then just your basic assaults. 134 00:07:21,943 --> 00:07:23,778 VAN ZELLER: Shane says most of the trouble originates 135 00:07:23,778 --> 00:07:25,154 with One Percenters. 136 00:07:29,325 --> 00:07:31,244 MONTHEY: Laws don't apply to them. 137 00:07:31,244 --> 00:07:32,829 VAN ZELLER: So you don't think they're afraid 138 00:07:32,829 --> 00:07:34,163 of law enforcement at all? 139 00:07:34,163 --> 00:07:35,164 MONTHEY: You know, if they want to do something, 140 00:07:35,164 --> 00:07:36,165 they're going to do it. 141 00:07:36,165 --> 00:07:37,417 VAN ZELLER: As a journalist, 142 00:07:37,417 --> 00:07:38,793 if I'm trying to get into these clubs 143 00:07:38,793 --> 00:07:40,461 and see how they operate, um, 144 00:07:40,461 --> 00:07:42,797 do you think that's an easy thing to do? 145 00:07:42,797 --> 00:07:45,091 MONTHEY: I would say no. 146 00:07:45,091 --> 00:07:46,676 I would say good luck. 147 00:07:48,136 --> 00:07:49,846 VAN ZELLER: I hit the streets of Sturgis, 148 00:07:49,846 --> 00:07:51,806 eager to find another way in. 149 00:07:53,057 --> 00:07:54,684 What's strange about this story, 150 00:07:54,684 --> 00:07:57,353 especially compared to other investigations I've done, 151 00:07:57,353 --> 00:07:59,731 is that these One Percenters aren't hard to find. 152 00:08:00,982 --> 00:08:03,484 They literally wear their allegiances on their backs. 153 00:08:04,777 --> 00:08:06,612 But that doesn't mean they want to talk. 154 00:08:08,823 --> 00:08:11,659 These One Percenter clubs are so secretive, 155 00:08:11,659 --> 00:08:13,745 that some of them don't even stay in Sturgis. 156 00:08:15,121 --> 00:08:17,081 They stay outside of town, 157 00:08:17,081 --> 00:08:20,793 at private campgrounds that apparently, get wild. 158 00:08:24,922 --> 00:08:26,507 Searching for an invite, 159 00:08:26,507 --> 00:08:29,677 I reach out to a biker turned radio host named "Hollywood." 160 00:08:30,386 --> 00:08:32,513 Who I hear is popular with the One Percenters. 161 00:08:33,306 --> 00:08:34,599 MACECARI: And welcome to this edition of 162 00:08:34,599 --> 00:08:36,434 Motorcycle Madhouse Radio. 163 00:08:36,434 --> 00:08:38,853 Thanks for joining us. 164 00:08:39,562 --> 00:08:41,439 (phone ringing) 165 00:08:41,439 --> 00:08:42,815 MACECERI (over phone): This is Hollywood. 166 00:08:42,815 --> 00:08:44,150 VAN ZELLER: Hi, Hollywood. 167 00:08:44,150 --> 00:08:45,359 It's Mariana. How are you doing? 168 00:08:45,359 --> 00:08:47,278 It's a long shot, but I asked if he can get me 169 00:08:47,278 --> 00:08:49,655 inside one of these campgrounds. 170 00:08:50,990 --> 00:08:53,576 To my surprise, he comes through. 171 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:57,121 That's where I'm heading now, to meet a One Percenter club 172 00:08:57,121 --> 00:08:58,915 called the "Sons of Silence." 173 00:09:17,433 --> 00:09:19,268 VAN ZELLER: Why do you think they agreed to speak to us then? 174 00:09:28,945 --> 00:09:30,404 VAN ZELLER: So when I see the guard and the gate, 175 00:09:30,404 --> 00:09:32,615 I'll ask you guys to put the cameras down. 176 00:09:32,615 --> 00:09:35,034 Which I think is here actually, so cameras down. 177 00:09:35,034 --> 00:09:36,911 We're here. We're here. 178 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:39,997 I have no idea what we're walking into. 179 00:09:42,291 --> 00:09:48,089 (motorcycle engine) 180 00:09:57,932 --> 00:10:00,685 Okay. So I hope this goes well. 181 00:10:08,442 --> 00:10:10,736 VAN ZELLER: There's a steady drumbeat of violence 182 00:10:10,736 --> 00:10:13,656 within biker culture. 183 00:10:13,656 --> 00:10:16,951 My quest to understand why has led me to the private campground 184 00:10:16,951 --> 00:10:21,080 of a One Percenter Club called the Sons of Silence. 185 00:10:23,499 --> 00:10:25,668 It's like something out of Mad Max. 186 00:10:27,086 --> 00:10:29,881 But our invite has come with some restrictions. 187 00:10:30,298 --> 00:10:32,758 We can "Watch but not engage". 188 00:10:40,725 --> 00:10:43,102 Oh my God. This is (bleep) crazy. 189 00:10:43,102 --> 00:10:45,146 What the (bleep)? 190 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,284 No members can speak on camera 191 00:10:58,284 --> 00:11:01,579 without permission from the leaders. 192 00:11:02,288 --> 00:11:05,541 So I'm stuck, just looking at these men. 193 00:11:06,042 --> 00:11:10,630 (camera shutter) 194 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:12,590 These faces. 195 00:11:14,884 --> 00:11:17,887 I find myself thinking about the faces of their brothers. 196 00:11:17,887 --> 00:11:20,348 The ones I've seen in mug shots. 197 00:11:21,307 --> 00:11:22,767 REPORTER: Federal authorities indicted members 198 00:11:22,767 --> 00:11:25,811 of the Sons of Silence motorcycle gang. 199 00:11:25,811 --> 00:11:29,649 OFFICIAL: An illegal narcotics trafficking organization. 200 00:11:29,649 --> 00:11:31,067 VAN ZELLER: In the 12 years, 201 00:11:31,067 --> 00:11:32,818 club members have been convicted of everything, 202 00:11:32,818 --> 00:11:35,488 from selling meth and cocaine, to sex trafficking, 203 00:11:36,405 --> 00:11:40,076 intimidation, extortion, assault, abduction, and murder. 204 00:11:42,411 --> 00:11:44,455 That rap sheet is front of mind 205 00:11:44,455 --> 00:11:46,999 as I tour the grounds campground with our minder, 206 00:11:46,999 --> 00:11:48,584 a biker named Cody, 207 00:11:49,168 --> 00:11:51,337 who wears an "Enforcer" patch. 208 00:11:51,337 --> 00:11:53,714 Do most members come? 209 00:11:53,714 --> 00:11:55,883 CODY: It's a mandatory run, so everybody comes. 210 00:11:55,883 --> 00:11:57,218 VAN ZELLER: It's mandatory to come? 211 00:11:57,218 --> 00:11:59,011 Oh, I didn't know that. 212 00:11:59,011 --> 00:12:02,265 Apparently, I'm not the only one who's got rules to follow. 213 00:12:02,765 --> 00:12:04,725 What's this? 214 00:12:04,725 --> 00:12:06,644 CODY: Every chapter has a flag. 215 00:12:06,644 --> 00:12:07,853 And when they get here, 216 00:12:07,853 --> 00:12:10,106 they hang it on a flag and raise it up. 217 00:12:10,106 --> 00:12:11,941 VAN ZELLER: Huh. 218 00:12:12,233 --> 00:12:14,235 How many are supposed to be up here, do you know? 219 00:12:14,235 --> 00:12:15,987 CODY: I do. 220 00:12:15,987 --> 00:12:17,196 VAN ZELLER: You don't wanna tell me? 221 00:12:17,196 --> 00:12:19,115 Okay. 222 00:12:19,115 --> 00:12:21,534 CODY: That's where the silence part comes in. 223 00:12:27,498 --> 00:12:28,833 VAN ZELLER: How often is it that you have cameras 224 00:12:28,833 --> 00:12:30,167 filming these events? 225 00:12:30,167 --> 00:12:31,460 CODY: Never. 226 00:12:31,460 --> 00:12:33,671 Never at all. 227 00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:41,846 VAN ZELLER: Okay. BOAR: I'm game. VAN ZELLER: Yeah? 228 00:12:41,846 --> 00:12:43,472 BOAR: It's your show, let's go. 229 00:12:43,472 --> 00:12:45,433 VAN ZELLER: The only members we're allowed to interview 230 00:12:45,433 --> 00:12:47,518 are Cody and a man named Boar, 231 00:12:48,311 --> 00:12:50,229 who's been in the club nearly 50 years, 232 00:12:51,230 --> 00:12:53,941 but even our interview has strict rules attached. 233 00:12:54,650 --> 00:12:58,279 So I'm going to ask you the questions that we've agreed upon. 234 00:12:58,279 --> 00:12:59,613 BOAR: Uh‐hmm. 235 00:12:59,613 --> 00:13:01,407 VAN ZELLER: I'd say it's the first time that I have 236 00:13:01,407 --> 00:13:02,867 a list of questions in front of me 237 00:13:02,867 --> 00:13:04,493 because I usually like it to be more of a conversation. 238 00:13:04,493 --> 00:13:06,495 But we've agreed upon these questions 239 00:13:06,495 --> 00:13:09,040 and I believe you have answers in front of you. 240 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,875 So, first question is, 241 00:13:10,875 --> 00:13:13,336 what attracts people to motorcycle clubs? 242 00:13:13,336 --> 00:13:15,504 BOAR: A lot of people are attracted here 243 00:13:15,504 --> 00:13:17,965 due to the freedom and the love of riding motorcycles. 244 00:13:18,466 --> 00:13:19,884 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 245 00:13:19,884 --> 00:13:21,677 BOAR: The brotherhood and the sense of family 246 00:13:21,677 --> 00:13:25,556 and belonging to something bigger than yourself. 247 00:13:30,019 --> 00:13:31,937 VAN ZELLER: What makes this brotherhood different 248 00:13:31,937 --> 00:13:34,899 than just regular friends? 249 00:13:34,899 --> 00:13:37,360 BOAR: A lot of these guys we have in our club 250 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,696 are veterans of every war you can think of. 251 00:13:42,448 --> 00:13:44,909 When I came, around 46 years ago, 252 00:13:44,909 --> 00:13:46,827 it was all Vietnam veterans. 253 00:13:47,286 --> 00:13:50,247 When they came home from what they ever did elsewhere, 254 00:13:50,247 --> 00:13:53,834 they were told just to go home and be happy you're home. 255 00:13:55,169 --> 00:13:57,171 VAN ZELLER: Many of these returning soldiers 256 00:13:57,171 --> 00:13:58,964 struggled to adjust, 257 00:13:58,964 --> 00:14:01,008 especially in the face of a protest movement 258 00:14:01,008 --> 00:14:03,385 that often blamed them for the failures 259 00:14:03,385 --> 00:14:05,429 and atrocities of the war. 260 00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:08,349 Seeking the camaraderie they'd known while serving, 261 00:14:08,349 --> 00:14:11,727 many were drawn to these civilian "Bands of brothers." 262 00:14:14,271 --> 00:14:16,440 MAN: This is freedom for me. 263 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,734 What's real? It ain't plastic. 264 00:14:18,734 --> 00:14:20,736 Society's creepy. 265 00:14:20,736 --> 00:14:22,655 Mind (bleep). 266 00:14:27,368 --> 00:14:31,664 BOAR: Some of the veterans have had their fill of people. 267 00:14:32,206 --> 00:14:34,875 But here, they feel like they're at home. 268 00:14:34,875 --> 00:14:37,545 This is where everybody is accepted 269 00:14:37,545 --> 00:14:40,047 if this is where you want to be. 270 00:14:40,047 --> 00:14:42,675 And that's what this was all about. 271 00:14:43,467 --> 00:14:46,053 VAN ZELLER: The military's influence is telling, 272 00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:50,307 on the surface, the scene feels wild and freewheeling 273 00:14:50,307 --> 00:14:53,310 but there's a structure that lies beneath. 274 00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:55,396 The mandatory attendance. 275 00:14:55,396 --> 00:14:57,731 The flag displays. 276 00:14:57,731 --> 00:15:00,776 The organized competitions. 277 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,029 They wear a different kind of uniform, 278 00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:06,699 but they are still trained to obey their leaders. 279 00:15:07,324 --> 00:15:10,077 BOAR: In our club, it takes at least a year 280 00:15:10,077 --> 00:15:12,454 to be a full patch holder. 281 00:15:12,454 --> 00:15:16,292 VAN ZELLER: Potential members must undergo a vetting process. 282 00:15:16,292 --> 00:15:17,960 "Prospects", as they're known, 283 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,837 prove their commitment to the club 284 00:15:19,837 --> 00:15:22,256 by following members' orders. 285 00:15:22,256 --> 00:15:25,509 It's not hard to spot these prospects around camp. 286 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:28,387 I see one tending the fire. 287 00:15:28,387 --> 00:15:30,181 Another one on his bike. 288 00:15:30,181 --> 00:15:32,516 They can only wear what's called the "Bottom rocker", 289 00:15:32,516 --> 00:15:34,351 ID'ing their chapter. 290 00:15:34,351 --> 00:15:37,813 Only once accepted do they become "Full patch" members 291 00:15:37,813 --> 00:15:40,858 and earn their "Colors", the club's logo. 292 00:15:42,568 --> 00:15:44,445 BOAR: If they're not satisfactory to what 293 00:15:44,445 --> 00:15:47,072 we're looking for, we get rid of them. 294 00:15:47,907 --> 00:15:49,575 VAN ZELLER: Can I ask you though, 295 00:15:49,575 --> 00:15:52,786 about the tattoos and the meanings of the tattoos and the patches? 296 00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:54,246 BOAR: Okay. 297 00:15:54,246 --> 00:15:57,333 VAN ZELLER: The "SS" which you know was the elite team 298 00:15:57,333 --> 00:15:59,168 of the Nazis, right? 299 00:15:59,168 --> 00:16:03,422 Or does the "SS" represent something else for you? 300 00:16:03,422 --> 00:16:07,051 CODY: For me, it does, but I'm not going to talk about it. 301 00:16:08,594 --> 00:16:12,348 VAN ZELLER: Cody may deny it, but charges of racism and sexism 302 00:16:12,348 --> 00:16:15,226 have dogged these One Percenter clubs through the years. 303 00:16:16,352 --> 00:16:20,397 BOAR: If you were a member, you'd understand some tattoos 304 00:16:20,397 --> 00:16:22,274 are to keep people away. 305 00:16:22,274 --> 00:16:23,734 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 306 00:16:23,734 --> 00:16:26,904 BOAR: And don't ask, does that make sense? 307 00:16:26,904 --> 00:16:30,115 VAN ZELLER: Absolutely. I won't ask about the tattoos anymore then. 308 00:16:30,115 --> 00:16:31,617 BOAR: I didn't hear you. 309 00:16:31,617 --> 00:16:33,452 VAN ZELLER: I won't ask about the tattoos anymore then. 310 00:16:33,452 --> 00:16:34,703 BOAR: Thank you. 311 00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:37,039 VAN ZELLER: But I also won't stay on script. 312 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:40,376 What exactly is an outlaw biker? What does that mean? 313 00:16:41,293 --> 00:16:43,629 BOAR: That one, I don't think is a good question. 314 00:16:46,131 --> 00:16:48,342 The police are the ones that have deemed us 315 00:16:48,342 --> 00:16:50,594 to be "Outlaws." 316 00:16:50,594 --> 00:16:53,264 This is who we are, what we are, and what we do. 317 00:16:53,722 --> 00:16:56,809 I think they're trying to portray us as something we, 318 00:16:56,809 --> 00:16:59,019 we're not. 319 00:16:59,770 --> 00:17:03,274 VAN ZELLER: And it's, it is working, because, you know, 320 00:17:03,274 --> 00:17:05,859 I've been to many places in my life, but yet, 321 00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:07,444 I was intimidated coming here. 322 00:17:07,444 --> 00:17:09,613 I wasn't sure what to expect. 323 00:17:09,613 --> 00:17:11,490 Is that something that you want to continue 324 00:17:11,490 --> 00:17:13,450 or is that something that you're hoping 325 00:17:13,450 --> 00:17:16,078 will change your image to the outside world? 326 00:17:16,078 --> 00:17:18,706 CODY: We don't give a (bleep) what people think about us. 327 00:17:19,707 --> 00:17:21,250 VAN ZELLER: Right. 328 00:17:21,250 --> 00:17:23,794 But you also don't want people to think that you are criminals. 329 00:17:23,794 --> 00:17:25,421 BOAR: We really don't care. 330 00:17:25,421 --> 00:17:28,799 We're not here to be anything to anybody. 331 00:17:30,009 --> 00:17:31,677 We're here for us. 332 00:17:33,262 --> 00:17:35,472 VAN ZELLER: Is it possible that these One Percenters 333 00:17:35,472 --> 00:17:37,975 just have an image problem? 334 00:17:37,975 --> 00:17:41,312 That they aren't really outlaws, just outcasts, 335 00:17:41,312 --> 00:17:43,397 wanting to be left alone? 336 00:17:44,106 --> 00:17:48,235 Unsure, I head back to LA, where I connect with a new source, 337 00:17:49,194 --> 00:17:51,530 a biker who says he's willing to open up 338 00:17:51,530 --> 00:17:54,366 about how these clubs really operate from the inside. 339 00:17:55,951 --> 00:17:58,329 KOZLOWSKI: That One Percenter patch that you see on my vest here. 340 00:17:58,329 --> 00:18:01,165 They wear that as a badge declaring, 341 00:18:01,165 --> 00:18:03,250 "Hey, we are a gang. 342 00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:05,586 We are a criminal organization." 343 00:18:05,586 --> 00:18:07,046 They know what it means. 344 00:18:07,046 --> 00:18:09,173 The culture knows what it means. 345 00:18:09,173 --> 00:18:12,092 But they're not going to say that. 346 00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:14,970 They're going to call themselves a club, we're a motorcycle club, 347 00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:16,472 "We just like to do what we do 348 00:18:16,472 --> 00:18:18,098 because it's the freedom of the riding." 349 00:18:18,098 --> 00:18:20,225 They're going to distance themselves 350 00:18:20,225 --> 00:18:22,645 from any opportunity to say that they're an actual gang. 351 00:18:22,645 --> 00:18:25,481 VAN ZELLER: How many clubs did you infiltrate? 352 00:18:25,481 --> 00:18:27,107 KOZLOWSKI: Personally, I've infiltrated 353 00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:28,901 three separate motorcycle gangs. 354 00:18:28,901 --> 00:18:32,029 And each one of them becoming a full‐patch member in all three. 355 00:18:32,821 --> 00:18:34,907 VAN ZELLER: In all three, you became a full‐patch member? 356 00:18:34,907 --> 00:18:36,367 KOZLOWSKI: Yes. 357 00:18:36,367 --> 00:18:38,327 VAN ZELLER: That's right. This dude is a federal agent 358 00:18:38,327 --> 00:18:40,537 and within law enforcement circles, 359 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:42,581 a legend. 360 00:18:42,581 --> 00:18:44,500 His name is Darrin Kozlowski. 361 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:45,876 Better known as "Koz." 362 00:18:47,211 --> 00:18:51,090 KOZLOWSKI: Between 1997 and 2008, 363 00:18:51,090 --> 00:18:52,841 I was undercover full time 364 00:18:52,841 --> 00:18:55,427 for approximately six of those eleven years 365 00:18:55,427 --> 00:18:57,262 in those three gangs. 366 00:18:58,722 --> 00:19:00,349 VAN ZELLER: Koz explains that these clubs 367 00:19:00,349 --> 00:19:02,434 had sold the public a story, 368 00:19:02,434 --> 00:19:07,398 the same story that the Sons of Silence and Bigfoot 369 00:19:07,398 --> 00:19:08,899 tried to sell me. 370 00:19:10,067 --> 00:19:14,321 But the reality is much dirtier and, he's lived it. 371 00:19:22,496 --> 00:19:26,834 ♪ ♪ 372 00:19:26,834 --> 00:19:29,294 KOZLOWSKI: As undercovers, we are thinking the worst. 373 00:19:29,294 --> 00:19:32,381 People have been killed even being suspected 374 00:19:32,381 --> 00:19:35,175 of being informants or snitches for these kinds of gangs. 375 00:19:36,093 --> 00:19:37,761 And there's been murders from people even thinking 376 00:19:37,761 --> 00:19:40,264 that they were informants, and they even weren't. 377 00:19:40,264 --> 00:19:41,515 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 378 00:19:41,515 --> 00:19:45,060 Darren Kozlowski lived with that fear for years 379 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:47,396 as an undercover agent with the ATF, 380 00:19:47,396 --> 00:19:49,481 the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, 381 00:19:49,481 --> 00:19:52,025 he infiltrated three of the most notorious 382 00:19:52,025 --> 00:19:54,069 One Percenter motorcycle clubs. 383 00:19:54,528 --> 00:19:57,114 The Vagos, Warlocks, and Mongols. 384 00:19:58,198 --> 00:20:00,617 KOZLOWSKI: They'll make money from any means necessary. 385 00:20:00,617 --> 00:20:03,328 They're opportunists, so if it's the drug game, weapons, 386 00:20:03,328 --> 00:20:06,373 if it's prostitution, they'll find a way to do it. 387 00:20:07,499 --> 00:20:09,793 And on top of that, you'll have the other events 388 00:20:09,793 --> 00:20:10,878 that come along with it. 389 00:20:10,878 --> 00:20:12,921 The violence, the fighting, the stabbings, 390 00:20:12,921 --> 00:20:15,382 the territorial disputes, the murders. 391 00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:18,302 VAN ZELLER: Koz explains that the brotherhood 392 00:20:18,302 --> 00:20:20,053 these clubs talk about is real 393 00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:22,931 and it's also what makes them effective as criminal gangs. 394 00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:26,894 KOZLOWSKI: It gives them that means to conduct their business 395 00:20:26,894 --> 00:20:29,855 with that level of trust. 396 00:20:29,855 --> 00:20:32,691 That separates them a little bit differently from everybody else. 397 00:20:32,691 --> 00:20:35,486 And then when they're getting some heat from another rival gang, 398 00:20:35,486 --> 00:20:37,446 yeah, they can make a phone call to LA 399 00:20:37,446 --> 00:20:40,783 and LA is going to send 100 dudes to that area 400 00:20:40,783 --> 00:20:43,702 and that's going to be followed with intimidation, 401 00:20:43,702 --> 00:20:46,789 going into bars, acts of violence, stabbings, beatings, 402 00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:49,708 whatever it may be to establish themselves of the, 403 00:20:49,708 --> 00:20:51,001 to a point of dominance 404 00:20:51,668 --> 00:20:53,086 that we're not here to be (bleep) with. 405 00:20:55,339 --> 00:20:57,591 VAN ZELLER: Koz tells me the Bronx killing was the result 406 00:20:57,591 --> 00:20:59,176 of a classic turf rivalry. 407 00:21:00,427 --> 00:21:02,471 The Pagans were unhappy that the Hells Angels 408 00:21:02,471 --> 00:21:05,766 had moved their clubhouse into the Bronx. 409 00:21:05,766 --> 00:21:09,144 The beef escalated and the Pagan leader was gunned down. 410 00:21:10,437 --> 00:21:11,980 KOZLOWSKI: Because in their culture, 411 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:15,776 that patch means so much, that gang means so much to them, 412 00:21:15,776 --> 00:21:18,195 that's what they live and die over. 413 00:21:21,490 --> 00:21:24,034 VAN ZELLER: Weeks later, Koz tips me off 414 00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:25,994 to a One Percenter's funeral. 415 00:21:26,745 --> 00:21:29,790 A member of the Mongols Motorcycle Club has died 416 00:21:29,790 --> 00:21:32,125 and his brothers are gathering for a tradition 417 00:21:32,125 --> 00:21:33,752 called "The Last Ride". 418 00:21:38,048 --> 00:21:40,300 Wow, you can see all the bikes already up there. 419 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:42,052 CICCONE: Yeah, wait until you see the procession. 420 00:21:42,052 --> 00:21:43,929 There's, there will be 400 or 500 bikes. 421 00:21:43,929 --> 00:21:45,848 VAN ZELLER: Yeah? 422 00:21:45,848 --> 00:21:47,516 CICCONE: It's even impressive for us and we've been working it forever. 423 00:21:47,516 --> 00:21:49,059 VAN ZELLER: But there's something else that makes 424 00:21:49,059 --> 00:21:52,855 this funeral different, it's being monitored by the feds. 425 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,606 CICCONE: They know that we're out here. 426 00:21:54,606 --> 00:21:55,858 VAN ZELLER: Yeah. 427 00:21:55,858 --> 00:21:57,276 CICCONE: This isn't like a covert stealthy thing. 428 00:21:57,276 --> 00:21:59,319 That, you know, creates a perception in their mind 429 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:01,864 that we're still working them. 430 00:22:01,864 --> 00:22:03,740 And waiting for them to slip up. 431 00:22:05,659 --> 00:22:07,369 VAN ZELLER: Special agent John Ciccone 432 00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:10,455 leads ATF's investigations into One Percenter clubs 433 00:22:10,455 --> 00:22:12,583 in Southern California. 434 00:22:12,583 --> 00:22:14,501 During Koz's years undercover, 435 00:22:14,501 --> 00:22:17,004 he considered Ciccone his guardian angel. 436 00:22:17,004 --> 00:22:18,338 CICCONE: So what's gonna happen is, 437 00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:20,215 you're gonna have your road captains, right? 438 00:22:20,215 --> 00:22:21,925 Which are these guys. 439 00:22:21,925 --> 00:22:27,806 And their job is to block off intersections as this thing proceeds, 440 00:22:28,307 --> 00:22:31,435 so it keeps the whole pack together. 441 00:22:31,435 --> 00:22:33,103 VAN ZELLER: Are they allowed to do this, to block the roads? 442 00:22:33,103 --> 00:22:34,563 CICCONE: No, but who's gonna stop them. 443 00:22:34,563 --> 00:22:36,106 You're not going to get yourself in the middle of all that, 444 00:22:36,106 --> 00:22:39,443 just because they run a red light, you know what I mean? 445 00:22:41,945 --> 00:22:44,656 CICCONE: There's a lot of 'em, man. 446 00:22:45,115 --> 00:22:46,909 VAN ZELLER: The bikers fall into formation, again, 447 00:22:46,909 --> 00:22:49,328 I sense the military's influence. 448 00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:52,414 The Last Ride is a show of respect, 449 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:56,752 but it's also a very public display of force. 450 00:22:59,254 --> 00:23:01,381 Oh, wow, so that's the hearse right here. 451 00:23:01,381 --> 00:23:03,967 CICCONE: Yup, and then you got one guy protecting it. 452 00:23:03,967 --> 00:23:05,427 One rider. 453 00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:08,138 VAN ZELLER: And then it's just a sea of bikes behind. 454 00:23:12,059 --> 00:23:13,352 Wow, they're looking at us. 455 00:23:13,352 --> 00:23:15,604 CICCONE: Yeah, it's going to get dicey. 456 00:23:16,146 --> 00:23:18,315 VAN ZELLER: Holy (bleep). 457 00:23:18,315 --> 00:23:21,443 I mean, the whole car is shaking. 458 00:23:22,986 --> 00:23:24,071 Did you see that? 459 00:23:24,071 --> 00:23:25,739 He flipped a middle finger at us. 460 00:23:25,739 --> 00:23:27,407 CICCONE: Yeah. 461 00:23:31,745 --> 00:23:32,913 VAN ZELLER: I'm truly. 462 00:23:32,913 --> 00:23:36,500 Like my body just need a rest right now. 463 00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,627 So intense. 464 00:23:40,212 --> 00:23:41,755 CICCONE: I've primarily worked the Mongols, 465 00:23:41,755 --> 00:23:43,340 so I know the most about them. 466 00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:48,345 They want to instill fear and intimidation wherever they go. 467 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:51,223 I consider them one of the most violent out there. 468 00:23:51,932 --> 00:23:53,976 VAN ZELLER: Over the years, ATF's work has led 469 00:23:53,976 --> 00:23:56,186 to several major takedowns. 470 00:23:56,603 --> 00:23:57,896 O'BRIEN: Homicides, narcotics, 471 00:23:57,896 --> 00:24:00,190 some extremely violent individuals 472 00:24:00,190 --> 00:24:02,109 who were taken off the street today. 473 00:24:02,526 --> 00:24:04,236 REPORTER: Speaking before a treasure trove 474 00:24:04,236 --> 00:24:06,071 of seized assets form the gang, 475 00:24:06,071 --> 00:24:08,156 the US attorney announced a major sweep 476 00:24:08,156 --> 00:24:10,492 and takedown of the Mongols. 477 00:24:10,492 --> 00:24:12,494 He called them a violent criminal enterprise. 478 00:24:13,745 --> 00:24:14,913 CICCONE: We convicted the gang. 479 00:24:15,414 --> 00:24:18,208 We had four agents that were members for three years. 480 00:24:18,875 --> 00:24:21,294 I mean, they went through the process, hang around, 481 00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:24,214 prospecting, and then full‐patch membership for that time period. 482 00:24:24,214 --> 00:24:27,426 But, you know, the protocols were broken down to them. 483 00:24:27,426 --> 00:24:30,679 You know, if you see a Hells Angel, shoot on sight. 484 00:24:35,142 --> 00:24:38,854 The Mongols have killed three Hells Angels in the last month. 485 00:24:39,104 --> 00:24:40,147 VAN ZELLER: No way. 486 00:24:40,147 --> 00:24:42,107 CICCONE: There was a shooting here, 487 00:24:42,107 --> 00:24:44,234 and then Denver was a murder, Indiana a murder, 488 00:24:44,234 --> 00:24:46,862 Cleveland, Ohio a murder. 489 00:24:46,862 --> 00:24:48,697 VAN ZELLER: So there's a huge fight going on between the two? 490 00:24:48,697 --> 00:24:52,075 CICCONE: Yeah, it's been that way since the '70s. 491 00:24:56,246 --> 00:24:59,624 VAN ZELLER: Agent Ciccone shows me the video of a massive brawl 492 00:24:59,624 --> 00:25:01,710 inside a Nevada casino. 493 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,300 Two Hells Angels died from gunshots and a Mongol was 494 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:09,718 stabbed to death. 495 00:25:11,887 --> 00:25:13,847 (gunshots) 496 00:25:13,847 --> 00:25:16,516 CICCONE: 3,000 innocent civilians in that casino. 497 00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:19,728 They didn't give a (bleep) and the Hells Angels didn't give a (bleep). 498 00:25:19,728 --> 00:25:21,605 They came in and got it on. They got it on. 499 00:25:22,397 --> 00:25:24,483 Because they're, that's what gang members do. 500 00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:29,154 VAN ZELLER: Ciccone explains how the clubs encourage these rivalries. 501 00:25:29,154 --> 00:25:31,239 CICCONE: If you confront another rival gang member, 502 00:25:31,239 --> 00:25:32,991 you get a Respect Few, Fear None patch. 503 00:25:32,991 --> 00:25:35,035 You know, it's a badge of honor. 504 00:25:35,035 --> 00:25:38,038 If you're involved in a shooting or a murder, 505 00:25:38,038 --> 00:25:40,373 you get a skull and crossbones patch. 506 00:25:41,917 --> 00:25:44,669 So they're promoting the violence 507 00:25:44,669 --> 00:25:46,588 and rewarding the violence. 508 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:48,298 VAN ZELLER: Giving them patches. 509 00:25:48,548 --> 00:25:50,050 Of course. 510 00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:53,011 It's been right there in front of my face the whole time. 511 00:25:54,012 --> 00:25:55,806 Stitched into the leather, 512 00:25:55,806 --> 00:25:58,892 coded language that speaks to what these clubs value. 513 00:25:59,810 --> 00:26:01,895 CICCONE: You could put all the fluff around the Harleys and all that, 514 00:26:01,895 --> 00:26:04,648 but it's a gang, we all know what comes with that. 515 00:26:05,941 --> 00:26:09,653 Violence, drug trafficking, firearms trafficking, assaults, 516 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,280 murders, shootings. 517 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,366 And they operate just like a street gang. 518 00:26:14,366 --> 00:26:16,868 They just ride bikes. 519 00:26:21,248 --> 00:26:24,251 We got some information that a group of Mongols 520 00:26:24,251 --> 00:26:26,795 is at a restaurant over here in Monrovia. 521 00:26:27,587 --> 00:26:30,340 So, we're just kind of go see what they're up to. 522 00:26:30,340 --> 00:26:32,342 And then we'll see if we can make contact with them. 523 00:26:32,801 --> 00:26:34,261 VAN ZELLER: So by contact, do you mean just, like, 524 00:26:34,261 --> 00:26:35,345 try to talk to a few of them? 525 00:26:35,345 --> 00:26:36,930 Like see what happens? 526 00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:38,723 CICCONE: Yeah, we'll just pull up 527 00:26:38,723 --> 00:26:40,225 and kind of sit there with my windows down 528 00:26:40,225 --> 00:26:42,519 and see if I can stir up anything. 529 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,479 VAN ZELLER: You just love stirring up (bleep). 530 00:26:44,479 --> 00:26:46,273 CICCONE: Oh, yeah. 531 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,487 VAN ZELLER: Is it just this, this Mexican restaurant? 532 00:26:53,488 --> 00:26:54,531 Oh, yeah. 533 00:26:54,531 --> 00:26:56,616 CICCONE: Some bikes. 534 00:26:57,576 --> 00:27:00,245 So, there's definitely some members here. 535 00:27:00,245 --> 00:27:03,248 VAN ZELLER: So they leave their helmets on the, on their bikes. 536 00:27:03,248 --> 00:27:05,333 They're not afraid that somebody will steal them? 537 00:27:05,333 --> 00:27:07,127 CICCONE: No one's going to steal them. 538 00:27:07,127 --> 00:27:09,087 That will not happen. 539 00:27:09,921 --> 00:27:11,882 VAN ZELLER: With no planning and no back up, 540 00:27:11,882 --> 00:27:13,592 Agent Ciccone is about to roll up 541 00:27:13,592 --> 00:27:18,054 on one of the most feared motorcycle clubs on the planet. 542 00:27:18,054 --> 00:27:21,349 And the Mongols all know he's a federal agent. 543 00:27:22,434 --> 00:27:26,271 CICCONE: Yeah, this looks like the, uh, where they're at. 544 00:27:26,271 --> 00:27:29,399 VAN ZELLER: Oh my God. 545 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:31,985 Is this a good idea? 546 00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:38,116 CICCONE: What's going on? 547 00:27:44,497 --> 00:27:49,002 VAN ZELLER: The Mongol's motto is "Respect few, fear none." 548 00:27:50,921 --> 00:27:52,797 The ATF has called them the most violent 549 00:27:52,797 --> 00:27:55,383 motorcycle club in the country. 550 00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:59,095 And yet, Agent John Ciccone has decided it's a good idea 551 00:27:59,095 --> 00:28:00,764 to crash their post‐funeral lunch. 552 00:28:01,348 --> 00:28:02,933 CICCONE: What's going on? 553 00:28:07,062 --> 00:28:08,104 CICCONE: Sure, man. 554 00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:09,981 LITTLE DAVE: Hold on. 555 00:28:09,981 --> 00:28:12,567 CICCONE: I thought that was you, I'm, like, I had to do a double take, man. 556 00:28:13,068 --> 00:28:16,154 VAN ZELLER: When Agent Ciccone invited me along for this ride, 557 00:28:16,154 --> 00:28:19,783 I didn't anticipate a friendly chat with the infamous Mongols. 558 00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:22,369 CICCONE: What's happening, dude? 559 00:28:22,369 --> 00:28:24,079 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, I didn't know you were with the wife? 560 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:25,497 CICCONE: Not this time, man. 561 00:28:25,497 --> 00:28:27,248 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, damn. What are you guys filming? 562 00:28:27,248 --> 00:28:28,458 CICCONE: What's up, man? 563 00:28:28,458 --> 00:28:29,960 VAN ZELLER: And this isn't just any Mongol, 564 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,378 it's one of the top leaders of the club. 565 00:28:31,378 --> 00:28:33,046 CICCONE: How did the funeral go? 566 00:28:33,046 --> 00:28:34,714 You guys make your run and all that? 567 00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:36,049 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah. CICCONE: How was it? 568 00:28:36,049 --> 00:28:37,467 LITTLE DAVE: We've seen you on the freeway. 569 00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:39,010 CICCONE: I was on the freeway, man. 570 00:28:39,010 --> 00:28:40,470 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah. 571 00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:41,846 CICCONE: Just stay off the freeways next weekend, man, 572 00:28:41,846 --> 00:28:43,974 because, because Castiglione is getting buried in, 573 00:28:43,974 --> 00:28:45,558 the Hells Angels in San Diego. 574 00:28:45,558 --> 00:28:47,060 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, yeah. 575 00:28:47,060 --> 00:28:48,228 CICCONE: He was like a 50 year member, man. 576 00:28:48,228 --> 00:28:49,521 LITTLE DAVE: Oh (bleep). CICCONE: So. 577 00:28:49,521 --> 00:28:50,981 MAN: Next weekend? CICCONE: Next weekend. 578 00:28:50,981 --> 00:28:52,440 LITTLE DAVE: I heard they buried three other dudes, like, 579 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,566 in the last month. 580 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:54,484 I don't know why, but that's what I hear. 581 00:28:54,484 --> 00:28:55,568 That's the real. 582 00:28:55,568 --> 00:28:57,404 CICCONE: No comment, man. 583 00:28:57,404 --> 00:28:59,114 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, 3‐0. CICCONE: No comment, man. LITTLE DAVE: 3‐0. 584 00:28:59,114 --> 00:29:00,281 The score's 3‐0. 585 00:29:00,281 --> 00:29:02,075 CICCONE: No comment, man. 586 00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:04,536 VAN ZELLER: Did you catch that score line? 587 00:29:04,536 --> 00:29:06,705 3‐0. 588 00:29:06,705 --> 00:29:09,416 Presumably meaning three Hells Angels dead, 589 00:29:09,416 --> 00:29:11,001 zero Mongols killed. 590 00:29:12,043 --> 00:29:13,628 REPORTER: Investigators say multiple people 591 00:29:13,628 --> 00:29:15,714 riding motorcycles were involved in a shooting. 592 00:29:16,131 --> 00:29:18,258 REPORTER 2: Police are saying a person was stabbed to death. 593 00:29:18,258 --> 00:29:20,719 REPORTER 3: Initial details painted the fatal confrontation 594 00:29:20,719 --> 00:29:24,014 between the rival gangs is an argument that escalated. 595 00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:27,475 CICCONE: All right. I'll let you guys go, man. 596 00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:29,436 VAN ZELLER: Wait, wait, wait. Can I ask a question since we're at this? 597 00:29:29,436 --> 00:29:30,603 So we're with National Geographic. 598 00:29:30,603 --> 00:29:32,188 MAN: Oh, I thought that was your wife! 599 00:29:32,188 --> 00:29:33,898 CICCONE: That's the National Geographic, man. 600 00:29:33,898 --> 00:29:35,608 CICCONE: You don't see all this camera. 601 00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:37,110 LITTLE DAVE: Dude, I watch everything. 602 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:38,528 VAN ZELLER: Can, can we come hang out with you guys one day? 603 00:29:38,528 --> 00:29:39,779 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 604 00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:41,281 VAN ZELLER: He's saying no. He's saying yes. 605 00:29:41,281 --> 00:29:42,782 I'm Mariana, by the way. 606 00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:44,784 Hi, how are you? So how do I contact you? 607 00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:46,619 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, my number. Take down my number. 608 00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:48,038 CICCONE: Geez. 609 00:29:48,038 --> 00:29:49,664 LITTLE DAVE: (bleep). Don't record the number. 610 00:29:49,664 --> 00:29:51,249 VAN ZELLER: So I'm Mariana. I'll call you. 611 00:29:51,249 --> 00:29:52,709 LITTLE DAVE: All right. Cool. 612 00:29:52,709 --> 00:29:53,835 VAN ZELLER: And then I'm hoping we can hang out with you. 613 00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:55,003 LITTLE DAVE: We'll talk, we'll talk, yeah, 614 00:29:55,003 --> 00:29:56,046 I can't promise anything, but we'll talk. 615 00:29:56,046 --> 00:29:57,422 VAN ZELLER: Okay. CICCONE: Later. 616 00:29:57,422 --> 00:29:59,215 VAN ZELLER:Thanks, guys. Have a margarita for us. 617 00:29:59,215 --> 00:30:01,342 Oh, my God. That was insane. 618 00:30:01,342 --> 00:30:02,927 CICCONE: There you go, man. 619 00:30:02,927 --> 00:30:04,179 See? 620 00:30:04,179 --> 00:30:05,555 What kind of hookup you guys got here today? 621 00:30:05,555 --> 00:30:06,848 VAN ZELLER: But that was definitely (bleep). 622 00:30:06,848 --> 00:30:08,391 CICCONE: Yeah, the guy in the white shirt. 623 00:30:08,391 --> 00:30:09,893 VAN ZELLER: And he immediately obviously knew who you were. 624 00:30:09,893 --> 00:30:11,936 And he jumped off his chair and came. 625 00:30:11,936 --> 00:30:13,730 CICCONE: You have to understand that we have 626 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:15,607 an open communication, him and I. 627 00:30:15,607 --> 00:30:17,442 It's a respect thing. 628 00:30:17,442 --> 00:30:19,486 That's all I can really explain it. 629 00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:22,989 I've worked these guys since '97. 630 00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:27,285 We don't harass them or disrespect them, but we, 631 00:30:27,285 --> 00:30:30,121 we work them and we put the criminals in jail. 632 00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:32,457 Especially with (bleep), he's the national president, 633 00:30:32,457 --> 00:30:33,750 you know, everything is under his watch. 634 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:35,752 He doesn't want to go to prison. 635 00:30:35,752 --> 00:30:37,879 But then there's times when he comes more involved 636 00:30:37,879 --> 00:30:39,923 with being the national president as, you know, 637 00:30:39,923 --> 00:30:41,591 giving out those awards and those patches 638 00:30:41,591 --> 00:30:43,009 when people do stuff. 639 00:30:43,009 --> 00:30:44,177 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 640 00:30:44,177 --> 00:30:45,637 CICCONE: You know, he's behind that. 641 00:30:45,637 --> 00:30:47,889 VAN ZELLER: So there's absolutely no doubt in your mind 642 00:30:47,889 --> 00:30:49,432 that they perform illegal activities, 643 00:30:49,432 --> 00:30:50,558 that they are criminals? 644 00:30:50,558 --> 00:30:52,185 CICCONE: Oh, yeah. It's who they are. 645 00:30:52,185 --> 00:30:54,521 Not all of them commit crimes every day 646 00:30:54,521 --> 00:30:56,147 or have criminal histories, 647 00:30:56,147 --> 00:31:00,485 but they have protocols that everybody has to adhere to. 648 00:31:01,194 --> 00:31:04,239 You're forced into their criminal element 649 00:31:04,239 --> 00:31:05,907 when you become a member. 650 00:31:06,533 --> 00:31:08,493 And all they have to do is just act right 651 00:31:08,493 --> 00:31:10,995 and we would leave them alone, you know. 652 00:31:10,995 --> 00:31:12,997 But as long as they're going to keep shooting and killing people, 653 00:31:12,997 --> 00:31:15,041 then we're going to be around. 654 00:31:16,543 --> 00:31:19,921 VAN ZELLER: I want to know what role these leaders actually play. 655 00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:23,216 And if these clubs are criminal enterprises hiding in plain sight, 656 00:31:23,716 --> 00:31:25,718 then what's bringing in the money. 657 00:31:25,718 --> 00:31:28,221 KOZLOWSKI: I would say the drugs make the most money for them. 658 00:31:28,221 --> 00:31:31,015 VAN ZELLER: Koz tells me something that I didn't know before, 659 00:31:31,015 --> 00:31:34,644 that the drugs they famously transport are supplied 660 00:31:34,644 --> 00:31:37,147 and controlled by the Mexican cartels. 661 00:31:38,481 --> 00:31:41,901 So if the cartels have such a network here in the US already established, 662 00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:45,280 why work with the clubs to transport those drugs? 663 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,614 What's in it for them? 664 00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:48,783 KOZLOWSKI: I think it's just going to come down 665 00:31:48,783 --> 00:31:50,201 to pure business. 666 00:31:50,201 --> 00:31:52,912 If you have a gang that can move X amount of weight 667 00:31:52,912 --> 00:31:54,998 and you have a trusted member 668 00:31:54,998 --> 00:31:57,959 who can deliver from that connection, 669 00:31:59,252 --> 00:32:01,754 you now have a whole another network of people 670 00:32:01,754 --> 00:32:03,339 to distribute to. 671 00:32:03,339 --> 00:32:04,632 You expand that territory. 672 00:32:04,632 --> 00:32:06,593 You've reached another group 673 00:32:06,593 --> 00:32:09,262 that has that crossover connection with cartel types. 674 00:32:09,512 --> 00:32:11,014 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 675 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:15,435 This isn't about a few bad apples. 676 00:32:15,435 --> 00:32:18,062 This is pure business. 677 00:32:18,062 --> 00:32:20,481 To see the criminal side of these One Percenters, 678 00:32:20,481 --> 00:32:22,442 I've got to follow the money. 679 00:32:23,693 --> 00:32:25,570 Hi. How are you doing? 680 00:32:28,698 --> 00:32:30,658 VAN ZELLER: And find the connection between the clubs 681 00:32:30,658 --> 00:32:32,660 and the cartels. 682 00:32:32,660 --> 00:32:34,454 And what about, is there, do you have any connections outside of California? 683 00:32:37,832 --> 00:32:40,043 VAN ZELLER: Over the years, I've made underworld contacts. 684 00:32:43,504 --> 00:32:44,797 VAN ZELLER: On both sides of the border. 685 00:32:51,054 --> 00:32:52,180 VAN ZELLER: I've networked. 686 00:32:55,183 --> 00:32:56,226 VAN ZELLER: I've built trust. 687 00:33:00,188 --> 00:33:04,150 VAN ZELLER: And in moments like this, I know who can open doors. 688 00:33:14,827 --> 00:33:16,663 VAN ZELLER: We just got the call? 689 00:33:16,663 --> 00:33:18,873 FIXER (over phone): Yes, he finally, uh, told us where to meet. 690 00:33:18,873 --> 00:33:20,500 It's a place where they feel safe. 691 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:23,253 It'll be a place where we can sit and talk and negotiate. 692 00:33:25,046 --> 00:33:27,757 They know your name, they're expecting your call. 693 00:33:27,757 --> 00:33:31,844 They'll send a pin of where, uh, we're supposed to meet them 694 00:33:32,845 --> 00:33:34,764 VAN ZELLER: Finally, after weeks of hustling, 695 00:33:34,764 --> 00:33:38,268 a cartel contact agrees to connect me to a One Percenter 696 00:33:38,268 --> 00:33:39,811 who transports narcotics. 697 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,983 Let's make sure we're not being followed. 698 00:33:48,152 --> 00:33:49,570 Okay. I'd say cameras down, guys. 699 00:33:49,570 --> 00:33:51,114 Down on cameras. 700 00:33:51,114 --> 00:33:54,325 It's more important than that we not spook them right now then. 701 00:33:55,994 --> 00:33:57,912 FIXER (over phone): There's a bit of a complication. 702 00:33:57,912 --> 00:34:00,540 They don't want us to bring our cars. 703 00:34:00,790 --> 00:34:02,917 They want us to jump into their cars. 704 00:34:04,544 --> 00:34:06,087 VAN ZELLER: Yeah. I don't think that's a good idea at all. 705 00:34:06,087 --> 00:34:08,047 I don't, I don't feel comfortable jumping in the car 706 00:34:08,047 --> 00:34:09,549 with somebody that we don't know 707 00:34:09,549 --> 00:34:11,926 and where they're taking us and all that. 708 00:34:11,926 --> 00:34:14,012 I don't think that's a good idea. 709 00:34:17,974 --> 00:34:20,059 They should be around here somewhere. 710 00:34:20,059 --> 00:34:23,021 MAN: If you get any updates, Rob, call... 711 00:34:23,021 --> 00:34:24,605 VAN ZELLER: Uh, can we not talk on the, 712 00:34:24,605 --> 00:34:26,441 can we not put the walkie‐talkies up 713 00:34:26,441 --> 00:34:28,192 when we're talking, guys. 714 00:34:28,192 --> 00:34:30,445 It's, like, if you want to scream undercover cops, 715 00:34:30,445 --> 00:34:32,280 that's it. 716 00:34:33,406 --> 00:34:35,408 I'm obviously paranoid at this point. 717 00:34:39,954 --> 00:34:41,748 Is this them? 718 00:34:43,374 --> 00:34:45,168 Okay, so that's them, guys. 719 00:34:45,168 --> 00:34:47,045 Leave the car running. 720 00:34:47,045 --> 00:34:48,379 Wish me luck. 721 00:34:59,390 --> 00:35:01,517 Hi. How are you doing? Mariana. 722 00:35:09,484 --> 00:35:11,819 DRIVER: Okay, I'm going to need you to put all the phones in the bag, 723 00:35:11,819 --> 00:35:13,321 turn them off, and leave them on the car. 724 00:35:13,321 --> 00:35:14,739 VAN ZELLER: And leave them in the other car? 725 00:35:14,739 --> 00:35:15,990 DRIVER: Yes. 726 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:17,033 VAN ZELLER: So we can't take phones with us? 727 00:35:17,033 --> 00:35:18,159 DRIVER: No. 728 00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,202 VAN ZELLER: Can I take mine at least? 729 00:35:19,202 --> 00:35:20,495 DRIVER: No. 730 00:35:20,495 --> 00:35:22,872 VAN ZELLER: I can shut it off? DRIVER: Ah, no. 731 00:35:27,377 --> 00:35:29,253 VAN ZELLER: So a little bit of a problem is that they don't want 732 00:35:29,253 --> 00:35:31,464 any of us to take our phones. 733 00:35:31,881 --> 00:35:34,467 So they've asked that we keep our phones here, 734 00:35:34,467 --> 00:35:36,177 which makes me a little nervous. 735 00:35:36,803 --> 00:35:39,514 That's not a situation like to be in at all. 736 00:35:39,514 --> 00:35:40,848 Everybody's phones. 737 00:35:40,848 --> 00:35:42,767 Are you okay? 738 00:35:43,393 --> 00:35:45,436 Okay. Thanks, guys. 739 00:35:49,732 --> 00:35:53,403 I'm in a car with a man I'm told is a cartel operative, 740 00:35:53,403 --> 00:35:55,113 who I presumed is armed. 741 00:35:56,072 --> 00:35:58,157 He's taking me to meet a One Percenter, 742 00:35:58,157 --> 00:36:00,284 but I don't know where we're going 743 00:36:00,284 --> 00:36:03,079 or what we'll learn when we get there. 744 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:10,420 So you're not actually the person we're going to be talking to, right? 745 00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:13,214 MAN: No. VAN ZELLER: Somebody else? MAN: Yeah. Someone else. 746 00:36:14,966 --> 00:36:17,218 Here's our buddy right here, to the right. 747 00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:19,303 VAN ZELLER: This is him? MAN: Yeah. VAN ZELLER: Oh, wow. 748 00:36:19,762 --> 00:36:21,514 So he was waiting here for us the whole time? 749 00:36:21,514 --> 00:36:22,932 MAN: Yeah. 750 00:36:22,932 --> 00:36:25,268 VAN ZELLER: This is apparently the biker in question, 751 00:36:25,268 --> 00:36:27,645 and he's clearly been tracking our movements. 752 00:36:28,229 --> 00:36:30,273 So do you work with the cartel? 753 00:36:30,273 --> 00:36:32,066 MAN: I'm not going to say nothing. 754 00:36:32,066 --> 00:36:33,860 VAN ZELLER: Sorry, as a journalist, 755 00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:35,069 I start asking questions immediately. 756 00:36:35,069 --> 00:36:36,529 MAN: Yeah. 757 00:36:50,418 --> 00:36:52,044 VAN ZELLER: Oh, it's sort of a ranch house. Yeah? 758 00:36:52,044 --> 00:36:54,422 MAN: Yes. One of many. 759 00:36:55,882 --> 00:36:57,258 VAN ZELLER: One of many you guys have around here? 760 00:36:57,258 --> 00:36:59,302 MAN: Yes. 761 00:37:00,553 --> 00:37:02,513 VAN ZELLER: Good. Okay. 762 00:37:03,806 --> 00:37:07,018 We arrived at a normal‐looking ranch house on a bit of land. 763 00:37:07,018 --> 00:37:09,270 As I get out of the car, 764 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:12,148 I'm met by a masked man with a semi‐automatic rifle. 765 00:37:13,149 --> 00:37:15,318 He directs me around the back of the house 766 00:37:15,318 --> 00:37:17,278 and that's where I find our biker. 767 00:37:17,862 --> 00:37:20,823 For his safety, we're covering his face and changing his voice. 768 00:37:21,657 --> 00:37:22,867 PANCHO: All right. 769 00:37:22,867 --> 00:37:24,118 VAN ZELLER: Okay. 770 00:37:24,118 --> 00:37:25,578 Were you undecided about talking to us? 771 00:37:25,578 --> 00:37:26,954 PANCHO: I was, yeah. 772 00:37:26,954 --> 00:37:29,332 I don't really trust nobody. 773 00:37:29,332 --> 00:37:31,542 VAN ZELLER: Did you check our work or did you check me out 774 00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:32,710 to make sure that I wasn't police? 775 00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:33,878 PANCHO: Oh, yeah. 776 00:37:33,878 --> 00:37:35,463 All you guys. 777 00:37:35,463 --> 00:37:37,381 VAN ZELLER: You did, all of us? PANCHO: Yes. There's a network. 778 00:37:37,381 --> 00:37:39,550 VAN ZELLER: Of bikers? PANCHO: Yes. 779 00:37:39,550 --> 00:37:43,429 Trust me, any information that we need from anybody is there. 780 00:37:44,472 --> 00:37:46,599 VAN ZELLER: Can I ask you what club you belong to? 781 00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,268 PANCHO: You could ask me all day, but I'm not going to say. 782 00:37:50,311 --> 00:37:53,105 VAN ZELLER: But it's, would you say that it's a well‐known one? 783 00:37:53,105 --> 00:37:55,399 PANCHO: Oh, yeah. It's a well‐known one. Yeah. 784 00:37:55,399 --> 00:37:58,069 VAN ZELLER: I, I was told that you were part of the (bleep)? 785 00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:59,904 PANCHO: Again, I don't want to say. 786 00:37:59,904 --> 00:38:01,489 You know, I can't expose myself 787 00:38:01,489 --> 00:38:04,158 because this is a serious business. 788 00:38:05,034 --> 00:38:06,786 VAN ZELLER: What would happen if they found out 789 00:38:06,786 --> 00:38:08,913 that you were talking to me? 790 00:38:08,913 --> 00:38:11,165 PANCHO: I would probably get killed. 791 00:38:11,916 --> 00:38:14,836 All these (bleep), they, they'll hurt you, 792 00:38:14,836 --> 00:38:16,546 they'll hurt you when they have to. 793 00:38:17,171 --> 00:38:18,881 VAN ZELLER: They or you? 794 00:38:18,881 --> 00:38:20,883 PANCHO: Everybody. 795 00:38:20,883 --> 00:38:22,927 Every last one of them. 796 00:38:22,927 --> 00:38:24,929 VAN ZELLER: Do you carry a gun with you? 797 00:38:24,929 --> 00:38:26,722 PANCHO: All the time. 798 00:38:26,722 --> 00:38:28,766 VAN ZELLER: Do you have it right now? 799 00:38:30,017 --> 00:38:34,480 So you still don't trust me? 800 00:38:35,481 --> 00:38:37,191 PANCHO: I don't trust nobody. 801 00:38:37,191 --> 00:38:38,568 VAN ZELLER: Why did you agree to do this interview? 802 00:38:38,568 --> 00:38:40,194 And I'm going give you the gun back. 803 00:38:40,194 --> 00:38:42,905 PANCHO: 'Cause I don't give a (bleep) about nothing. 804 00:38:44,115 --> 00:38:45,449 VAN ZELLER: So what, what would you say then 805 00:38:45,449 --> 00:38:48,077 is the major business of the club that you're, 806 00:38:48,077 --> 00:38:49,829 that you belong to? 807 00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:51,664 PANCHO: Narcotics. 808 00:38:51,664 --> 00:38:54,125 VAN ZELLER: Finally, after months of trying, 809 00:38:54,125 --> 00:38:56,377 I find a biker who's willing to talk about 810 00:38:56,377 --> 00:38:58,421 what no one other One Percenter would, 811 00:38:59,171 --> 00:39:02,550 the criminal side of motorcycle clubs. 812 00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:14,437 ♪ ♪ 813 00:39:14,437 --> 00:39:16,230 VAN ZELLER: What, what drugs are we talking about? 814 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:21,277 PANCHO: Oh, it's everything from weed, cocaine, glass, heroin. 815 00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:24,530 You name it, we do it all. 816 00:39:25,531 --> 00:39:29,076 There's a bunch of, bunch of guys that just love to ride 817 00:39:29,076 --> 00:39:31,245 and want to be part of the club. 818 00:39:31,245 --> 00:39:35,499 And there's others like myself that love to get money 819 00:39:35,499 --> 00:39:37,293 and love that life. 820 00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:38,669 And that's what we do. 821 00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:41,088 VAN ZELLER: How much money do you make? 822 00:39:41,088 --> 00:39:42,924 PANCHO: A lot. 823 00:39:43,299 --> 00:39:46,177 VAN ZELLER: I push for details about their operation and how they 824 00:39:46,177 --> 00:39:50,598 work with the Mexican cartels. 825 00:39:50,598 --> 00:39:52,808 So, it's sort of a working farm here? 826 00:39:52,808 --> 00:39:56,228 DAMIEN: Yes. This is where we started. 827 00:39:59,857 --> 00:40:02,777 VAN ZELLER: The property is both a marijuana grow and a stash house 828 00:40:02,777 --> 00:40:05,071 for whatever else might pass through. 829 00:40:06,405 --> 00:40:09,617 This man oversees the operation for his cartel bosses, 830 00:40:09,617 --> 00:40:11,160 south of the border. 831 00:40:11,535 --> 00:40:13,913 These are getting ready to be harvested? 832 00:40:13,913 --> 00:40:17,959 DAMIEN: Yes. Three more weeks. VAN ZELLER: Three more weeks? DAMIEN: Yes. 833 00:40:19,210 --> 00:40:20,878 VAN ZELLER: So, you work with these guys a lot? 834 00:40:20,878 --> 00:40:22,505 PANCHO: I do, yeah. 835 00:40:22,505 --> 00:40:24,507 Myself and my people. 836 00:40:25,216 --> 00:40:27,969 VAN ZELLER: They do the production side and you guys do the transporting? 837 00:40:27,969 --> 00:40:29,762 PANCHO: Yeah. 838 00:40:32,306 --> 00:40:34,600 DAMIEN: This is where we pack it, where we trim it, 839 00:40:37,353 --> 00:40:38,813 where we weigh it. 840 00:40:38,813 --> 00:40:40,773 VAN ZELLER: Wow, the smell is super, super strong here. 841 00:40:40,773 --> 00:40:42,566 So this is the flower that's been harvested already? 842 00:40:42,566 --> 00:40:45,528 DAMIEN: Correct. VAN ZELLER: Trimmed? DAMIEN: Yes. 843 00:40:46,153 --> 00:40:49,073 VAN ZELLER: Ooh, it smells good. 844 00:40:49,865 --> 00:40:51,575 I don't think most people know that you guys 845 00:40:51,575 --> 00:40:53,160 are running an operation like this. 846 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,830 Just right here, out in Southern California. 847 00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:57,915 DAMIEN: This is just us, but there's a lot more. 848 00:41:01,252 --> 00:41:04,463 PANCHO: I've got a network of guys that get the merchandise 849 00:41:04,463 --> 00:41:09,051 from these gentlemen and we distribute it throughout the US. 850 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:13,639 VAN ZELLER: Where do these drugs go to usually? 851 00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:15,349 DAMIEN: Most of it goes on the street. 852 00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:17,643 A lot of it goes to the different states. 853 00:41:17,643 --> 00:41:19,645 The further, the more expensive it is. 854 00:41:20,813 --> 00:41:22,982 PANCHO: There's plugs everywhere. 855 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,777 VAN ZELLER: Why do you guys like to work with the bikers? 856 00:41:26,777 --> 00:41:28,946 DAMIEN: Like, they're not afraid of the cops, you know? 857 00:41:28,946 --> 00:41:31,198 They're ruthless pretty much. 858 00:41:31,615 --> 00:41:33,951 VAN ZELLER: Yes, even the Mexican cartels 859 00:41:33,951 --> 00:41:36,620 think One Percenters are ruthless. 860 00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:39,165 Does the club leaders know that you do this 861 00:41:39,165 --> 00:41:40,541 and that the members of the club do this? 862 00:41:40,541 --> 00:41:41,751 PANCHO: Yes. 863 00:41:41,751 --> 00:41:42,793 VAN ZELLER: Do they make a cut out of it? 864 00:41:42,793 --> 00:41:44,086 PANCHO: Of course, yeah. 865 00:41:44,086 --> 00:41:45,254 VAN ZELLER: Do they make good money? 866 00:41:45,254 --> 00:41:47,590 PANCHO: Everybody eats. 867 00:41:48,257 --> 00:41:51,302 There's shot callers and there's people underneath. 868 00:41:51,886 --> 00:41:55,514 They move other people, and so on, and so on. 869 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,226 That's how you take care of your family and live the good life. 870 00:42:00,102 --> 00:42:03,147 Even if it's in this, doing this dirty (bleep). 871 00:42:05,858 --> 00:42:07,651 VAN ZELLER: It does make sense, 872 00:42:07,651 --> 00:42:10,613 what better business partners for Mexican narco traffickers 873 00:42:10,613 --> 00:42:14,950 than loyal, tight‐lipped, road trip‐loving American outlaws 874 00:42:16,452 --> 00:42:19,288 with local chapters crisscrossing a country 875 00:42:19,288 --> 00:42:24,210 that spends nearly $150 billion a year on illegal drugs? 876 00:42:25,795 --> 00:42:27,630 (gunshots) 877 00:42:27,963 --> 00:42:30,966 I'm not saying every One Percenter is involved, 878 00:42:30,966 --> 00:42:33,511 but wherever serious cash is being made, 879 00:42:33,511 --> 00:42:35,513 serious trouble follows. 880 00:42:35,971 --> 00:42:38,015 Why is there so much hatred between clubs? 881 00:42:38,015 --> 00:42:41,018 PANCHO: It's, it goes deep. It goes deep. 882 00:42:41,018 --> 00:42:43,145 VAN ZELLER: Is it a territory thing? 883 00:42:43,145 --> 00:42:45,648 I mean, the fact that you're, assuming that you're controlling 884 00:42:45,648 --> 00:42:47,858 the trafficking happening in this area. 885 00:42:47,858 --> 00:42:49,985 PANCHO: It's all about territory. 886 00:42:49,985 --> 00:42:51,862 That's all it is. 887 00:42:51,862 --> 00:42:54,073 You got to stick with your brothers. 888 00:42:54,365 --> 00:42:56,492 And if they say, "Let's go to war," 889 00:42:56,492 --> 00:42:58,702 we're going to go to war. 890 00:42:59,078 --> 00:43:00,704 VAN ZELLER: To go to war, 891 00:43:00,704 --> 00:43:01,997 meaning you'd have to kill other people, you would do that? 892 00:43:01,997 --> 00:43:04,625 PANCHO: Whatever it takes. 893 00:43:10,589 --> 00:43:12,633 KOZLOWSKI: A lot of organizations in the criminal world 894 00:43:12,633 --> 00:43:16,053 don't advertise in the open who they are. 895 00:43:16,804 --> 00:43:18,639 Motorcycle gangs do. 896 00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:23,144 Even a part of me felt empowered when I got fully patched. 897 00:43:23,144 --> 00:43:26,814 You get that sense that you have power. 898 00:43:29,567 --> 00:43:33,612 VAN ZELLER: Most outlaws I've met live in the shadows, 899 00:43:33,612 --> 00:43:35,781 but not these guys. 900 00:43:36,824 --> 00:43:39,577 They're bold enough to tell us exactly who they are. 901 00:43:41,328 --> 00:43:44,540 VAN ZELLER: And dare us to do something about it. 902 00:43:45,416 --> 00:43:48,127 PANCHO: It's just dangerous (bleep). 903 00:43:48,127 --> 00:43:50,171 You could die at any given time. 904 00:43:50,171 --> 00:43:52,047 For any given reason. 905 00:43:52,882 --> 00:43:54,675 VAN ZELLER: Do you think you'll continue doing it? 906 00:43:54,675 --> 00:43:57,636 PANCHO: I've been doing it (bleep) my life. 907 00:43:57,636 --> 00:44:00,389 I'll do it until I'm laid in the casket. 908 00:44:01,891 --> 00:44:06,312 (engines revving) 909 00:44:06,687 --> 00:44:08,314 Captioned by Cotter Media Group. 72698

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