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Mariana van zeller:
Maybe tell me a little bit
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About your day today.
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You wake up and
then what happens?
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Gotti: I wake up, make sure
my sons are in school,
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And then drive
all over creation,
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Looking at these
young, pretty girls.
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Man: Train stations.
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Man: Instagram.
Woman: Instagram.
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Man: Facebook.
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Man: County jail.
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All-night denny's.
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Mariana:
First comes the seduction.
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Then comes the reality.
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Lady p: After a couple of days
of drinking and smoking,
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Now you got to walk the street.
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Mariana:
This is a story about pimps.
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How they work, how they think,
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And what they'll do
to grab their share
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Of the billion-dollar market
for illicit sex in america.
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(knocking)
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Jack knife: I'm not saying
what I do is right,
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But I'm a wolf out here
to survive on these streets.
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Because I'm not
gonna be no sheep.
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(sirens)
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♪ ♪
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♪ ♪
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(siren)
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Michelle: The very first time
I ever did it,
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It was a complete rush.
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And then you just kind of
start to get used to it.
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Mariana: What is it like when
you're, when you're out there?
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Michelle: It's cold.
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It's really cold.
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This is a good amount
of clothes.
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We've seen girls out there in
just like a bra and underwear.
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Mariana: In the winter?
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Michelle: In the winter,
in the rain.
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A lot of them can't leave
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Until they are told
that they can come back in.
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Mariana: By their pimps?
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Michelle: Yeah. Pimps.
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Mariana: Is it dangerous?
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Michelle:
Oh, it's extremely dangerous.
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Vehicles pull up to us
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That you don't know if
they're just gonna roll by
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And just start shooting at you.
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Like a rival pimp,
that you're working for someone,
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And that's technically
their enemy,
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So instead of going
after the pimp,
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They're gonna go
after the girls.
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Mariana: How often are you
approached by pimps?
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Michelle: Almost every time
we're out there.
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Mariana: And you've been doing
this for how long?
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Michelle: I've been doing this
for around three years.
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Mariana: Was it soon after you
joined the police department or?
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Michelle: Um, it was a good
chunk of time after.
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Mariana: Michelle,
as we'll call her,
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Is one of two
oakland police officers
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Who will be going undercover
tonight as decoys.
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So how do you...
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Michelle: We have people
very close.
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Mariana: Watching?
Michelle: Mm-hmm.
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Michelle: And we do have
our firearms on us also.
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Mariana:
Oh, you take a gun with you?
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Michelle: Yeah.
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Mariana: Where?
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Michelle:
We just, we make it work.
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Mariana: Sex trafficking has
become front-page news recently,
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Thanks to high-profile cases
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Like that of multi-millionaire
jeffrey epstein.
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Newscaster: For several years,
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Epstein was operating
a sex trafficking ring.
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Mariana: Not long ago,
sex trafficking was thought
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To be largely
a transnational problem,
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With criminal networks
smuggling undocumented women
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Across borders
to work as sex slaves,
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But there's a far more
common variety,
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Happening in every u.S. City,
big and small,
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That sees americans
exploiting other americans.
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No state reports more cases
than california.
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And by all accounts,
oakland is a hot spot.
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Police officer: Thanks,
everyone, for being here,
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We're doing
a decoy operation today.
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It's very dangerous
for the decoys.
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Stay out of sight. Keep close.
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If we do arrest a pimp,
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We're gonna call a code 3
response for an arrest.
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Mariana: The goal of the
operation is to disrupt business
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Around one of california's most
notorious prostitution tracks,
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International boulevard
in east oakland.
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It's a place where pimps
have long been known
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To sell underage girls.
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You guys used to go after
mainly the women
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Working on the streets,
and you've since shift,
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And are now going
after the traffickers
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And the johns,
the demand as well.
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When did that happen?
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Jimmy beere:
October of last year. Yeah.
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Mariana:
Just October of last year.
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Jimmy: Yeah.
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Mariana: Pretty recent change.
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Jimmy:
Yes, pretty recent change.
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And we want to target
what's fueling the demand
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Here in oakland.
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We want to go after
the exploiters,
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The ones that are victimizing
our young women.
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So by attacking the demand
and making people know
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That oakland's not a place
that's gonna tolerate
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Forcing people
into prostitution.
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Mariana: Lieutenant jimmy beere
is the commander
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Of the vice unit and
my guide for the evening.
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Jimmy: When a john pulls up,
they pull up real slow,
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Kind of to check out the girls,
see how they look.
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Window shopping, I hate to say.
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Pimp, on the other hand,
they want to make it known
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They're the big dog
in this neighborhood.
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So, they usually swoop up
onto the corner really fast.
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Anything intimidating,
like do a burnout
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And take off at
a really high rate of speed.
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Man: Got a male hispanic on foot
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Talking to the girls right now.
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Jimmy: Swoop signal on the dude
with the bald head.
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(siren)
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Man: He just got into a white '80s model toyota pickup truck.
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Jimmy: Yeah, that's it
right there. Positive id.
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Mariana: It's happening,
you see that?
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Jimmy: Yeah, they're
arresting him right now.
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Mariana: The decoys move
several blocks away
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And start working
on another corner.
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Within minutes, a car pulls up.
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Jimmy: He's hauling ass
to get out of here.
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Mariana: Yeah.
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That's him.
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What do you find with
the majority of these johns?
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What's sort of the profile?
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Jimmy: As you see already,
it's been, like, one male asian,
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One male hispanic,
one male black.
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Typically, there'll be
a male white next,
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You know, if I'm gonna,
if I'm gonna bet.
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Mariana: And young, old,
married, single?
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Jimmy: All of that. All of that.
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Yeah, there's no real
profile of a john.
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Woman: There's a male in a lexus
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Hanging out the window with a gun.
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Jimmy: Oh, (bleep).
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Might have a guy pointing guns
at the prostitutes.
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(siren)
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Mariana: Quickly,
it becomes clear
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That they could arrest johns
all night long.
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(siren)
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But it's not the johns
they're really after.
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Jimmy: We're trying
to draw the pimp out.
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Lure him out from
behind the shadows.
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Try to get them to actually
recruit one of our girls
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And then we go after him.
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Mariana: Do you think they're
making more money as pimps
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Than they are if they
were selling drugs?
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Jimmy: Yes.
Mariana: Why?
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Jimmy: There's more of it.
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There's more demand.
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You don't have to buy
the product,
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So I don't have to come
out-of-pocket.
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I don't have to package it.
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I'm not being at risk
for holding on to it.
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Renewable product
that never expires
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As long as she's still alive.
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And if she's alive,
she better be making money.
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Mariana: The challenge is
actually finding them,
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Or getting them.
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Jimmy: That's it.
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Barack obama: Our fight
against human trafficking
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Is one of the great human rights
causes of our time.
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And the united states
will continue to lead it.
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Donald trump: We will not rest
until we've stopped
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Every last human trafficker and
liberated every last survivor.
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Mariana: The fight against
trafficking seems to be
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One of the few issues
that transcends politics.
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But all of that attention
hides an ugly truth,
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That busting sex traffickers
is extremely difficult,
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In part because their victims
are often afraid to testify.
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Jimmy: It's more difficult
to solve these cases,
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I would venture to say,
than murder charges.
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Mariana: For these pimps, that
means the risk is relatively low
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And the profits sky high,
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A combination that
must be irresistible,
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Which is exactly why
I want to find one.
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(rapping) ♪ cash, cash, cash, cash ♪
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♪ I will not stop till I'm filthy rich ♪
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♪ I made a dollar out of 50 cents ♪
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♪ I made the track over 50 bricks ♪
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♪ .22 on me like... ♪
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My search begins on instagram.
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That's where I learn that pimps
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Have their own ecosystem
of hashtags.
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There's this one hashtag, 3-0-4.
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If you turn around 304,
it actually spells "hoe."
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Can't show a lot of these faces,
but #gamerelated,
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#pgo, pimp game on,
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#hgo, which means ho game on,
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#izm, which is, like,
the swagger.
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More jewelry, more diamonds.
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This display of
wealth and power.
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These stacks of cash.
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All of this is just a way
to show these women
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What their lives could be like
if they were working for them.
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I have no idea if
any of these guys
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Are actually pimps
or just playing the part.
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But for some, it certainly feels
like their social media feed
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Is the marketing arm
of their operation.
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Doesn't seem like
they're very ashamed
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Or trying to hide what
they're doing at all.
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In fact, they want
to show it off.
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Over several weeks, I message
countless guys and a few women,
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Asking if any of them
would be up for talking.
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I get mostly silence.
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Then finally, a breakthrough.
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I stumble upon a genre of book
I didn't know existed:
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The pimp memoir.
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That's how I found mickey royal.
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Sure enough,
the author of the pimp game
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Agrees to meet me at a motel
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In the heart of
south central los angeles.
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I'm hopeful that mickey
will be the key
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To finding my way inside
his former profession.
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How are you?
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Mickey royal: Alright.
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Mariana: Mariana.
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Mickey: Mickey royal.
At your service.
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Mariana: Hi, mickey,
so nice to meet you.
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Mickey: Same here. Likewise.
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I didn't really start
really pimping
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Until I was about 19 or 20.
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I came from a drug and gang
background,
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So I always thought of that
particular life as being weak,
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You know, because if
it didn't involve a pistol,
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I wasn't interested.
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But it was something
about the allure of it.
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It just sucks you in,
and I fell in love with it.
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Drexl spivey: I know I'm pretty.
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Mariana: The allure of pimping
is no secret.
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Goldie: I want you to
get yourself together
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And get back out there
and get me my money.
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Mariana: From movies
to music videos...
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50 cent:
♪ that I'm a ---- p-I-m-p ♪
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Mariana: ...To seinfeld.
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(laughter)
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Very few underworld figures
have gotten as much love
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From pop culture as the pimp.
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But I want to know
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How the business of pimping
really works.
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Mickey offers
to take me for a tour
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Of the most infamous track
in l.A.
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Where are we heading?
Where are we going?
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Mickey: We're headed
to figueroa.
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It's referred to as
the track, the blade.
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It's been around since the '60s.
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We're talking about 95 blocks.
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Mariana: Wow.
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Mickey: 95 blocks.
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Mariana: How dangerous is it,
do you think?
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Mickey:
It's extremely dangerous.
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You got the tricks
you have to worry about.
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You have upsetting the pimp
you have to worry about.
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Kidnapping, stabbings,
shootings, plenty of them.
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You're talking about
a profession
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Where sexual assault and rape
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Are just occupational
daily hazards.
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Mariana: So, I've lived in
los angeles for over 10 years,
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And I know figueroa,
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But I have never seen
any of this till tonight.
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Mickey: That's why I call it
the shadow world.
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It exists at night
and broad daylight.
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She's working to the right.
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Mariana:
Oh, she's wearing a bikini.
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Mickey: Yeah.
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Mariana: It's also freezing.
It's 46 degrees outside.
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Mickey: I mean,
you got to understand,
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If they have pimps or whatever,
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They can make extra money
by being seen from a distance,
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They're not even allowed
to wear jackets.
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See how they both were naked?
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More than likely,
they have the same pimp.
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Mariana: Was that a thing?
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Where your girls that worked
with you dressed the same?
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Mickey: Yeah, 'cause
it's easier to shop
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For all of them
at the same time.
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Mariana: So all these
three girls have the same shoes.
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Does that mean that they work
for the same pimp?
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Mickey: More than likely.
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Mariana: She was so young.
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She looked like she was
like 15 or something.
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Did you see that?
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Mickey: Yeah. You'll see
a lot of those.
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Mariana: I mean, it's dozens
and dozens and dozens of women
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That we've seen so far in, what,
in about 20 blocks, right?
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Mickey: Right.
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You should see them on
Friday and Saturday night.
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It's like a concert.
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(siren)
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Mariana: So where would you be?
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Imagine a girl
would be on this corner.
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Where would you be?
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Mickey: Sitting in the car
not far away.
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Mariana: Oh, watching her.
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Mickey: Yeah.
Mariana: Why?
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Mickey: To make sure she's okay.
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And I figured that was my job.
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Mariana: And if you had
more than one girl,
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How do you do that?
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Mickey: You cruise around.
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You might sit here for about 10
minutes until she gets a date,
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See where it goes, and then
you cruise up to see this one.
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Pull up on one,
you collect your money.
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But she's not gonna
get any dates
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While you're sitting there.
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Mariana: We've been circling
the same stretch of blocks
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Several times when
mickey gets spooked.
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Mickey: Okay, that's, uh,
we got to go somewhere else.
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Mariana: What happened?
Mickey: That's them.
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Mariana: Why? What happened?
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Mickey:
It's starting to get hot.
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Mariana: What do you mean?
What'd he do?
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Mickey: Once we got made,
as far as the cameras,
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What'll happen is they'll start
telling everybody what they saw
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And pointing out the car.
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Mickey: You don't
want to do that.
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No. You want to call it a night
right now, trust me.
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Mariana: I follow
mickey's advice,
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But I'm still hopeful he can
connect me to an active pimp.
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So, we've been working on
this story for a long time,
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And it's been really hard
to get people to talk to us,
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Especially people who are
currently in the game.
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Mickey: Yeah,
you won't get that.
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Mariana: I mean, if you were
currently doing it,
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Would you even admit it to us?
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Mickey: No.
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You hopping out
with the cameras,
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You're better off
pulling guns on me.
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No.
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Guns I'll challenge,
the camera I'll just run.
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No.
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Mariana: Why not?
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Mickey: Because if you want
to get away with a crime,
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It has to be a secret.
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Simple as that.
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Mariana: After our interview,
mickey pulls me aside.
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He gives me a name, a number,
and a promise.
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One phone call later,
doors begin to open.
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(phone ringing)
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Nina: Hello?
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Mariana: Hi, it's mariana here.
How are you?
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Nina: I'm fine.
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Mariana: Mickey gave me
your number
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And said that you'd be
willing to talk to us.
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We'd love to meet with you at
a place somewhere in inglewood
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If you're available.
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Nina: Yes.
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Mariana: Okay. And you're
bringing some people
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That work with you, right?
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Nina: Right.
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Mariana: That hotel, is that
the place you want to meet?
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Nina: Right. Yeah.
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Mariana: Have you worked
out of there?
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Nina: Yeah.
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Mariana: So, we've rented
this motel room.
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It's a place that they've said
they've worked at before.
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We were supposed to meet here
an hour ago.
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They still haven't showed up.
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But we're, you know,
we're hoping they will.
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It's been really hard
to get people to talk to us,
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So it sounded really positive,
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And I'm hoping that
they will show up tonight.
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Mariana: Oh, hi.
Nina: Nice to meet you.
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Mariana: I'm mariana.
How are you?
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Nina: I'm fine.
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Mariana: Come on in.
Thanks for meeting us here.
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'cause I know you want us
to disguise your identities.
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So, we actually got all
these masks here for you.
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Bee: That's more me.
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Mariana:
That's a real pretty one.
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It's funny because
when I looked at them
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And I was trying to figure out
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Which one I would wear
if it was me,
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I changed my mind
about three times.
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Woman: Right.
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Bee: Perfect.
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Woman: A little bit,
here, over the...
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Bee: Uh-uh. I like this.
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Mariana: So, we're very close
to figueroa,
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Which is one of the most famous
tracks or blades in los angeles.
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Have you guys
ever been out there?
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Nina: I have.
Bee: Yeah.
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Mariana: Do you think that a lot
of the women that are working
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Out on the blade, the track,
they all have pimps?
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Bee: I say 80% of them do.
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Nina: Yeah.
Honey: I say, yeah.
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Mariana: Did you have a pimp?
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Nina:
When I first started out, no.
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I was just,
"hey, let's get away."
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You know what I mean?
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But I did try it out.
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Like, guys wanted me
to be they ho.
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And, you know,
I'll hang around them
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Or kick it with their female
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And see how
their environment was,
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And it just wasn't for me.
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It was a lot of violence.
It was a lot of jealousy.
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I didn't see where
the money was going.
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Mariana: Why do you think
other women do it, then?
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Nina: Daddy issues.
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Seeking attention,
might've been molested.
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Might feel that they need
to be valued by a man
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And not really know
they value for they self.
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Honey: Yeah,
there's a lot of people
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That grow up in broken homes.
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Not having that father figure
is like a huge part
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In a young girl's life.
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When you don't seek and get
that love that you deserve,
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It pushes you to
a whole 'nother state
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That you can't really
explain or describe.
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You just feel the pain.
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Mariana: Do you think that
the pimps know that
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And they exploit that?
They go after those...
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Honey: Yeah, that's how
they abuse you.
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That's how they get you
to never leave.
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And that's why most girls
that's my age,
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They get stuck and they live
like that for a very long time.
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Mariana: The more we talk,
the more I realize
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How many different ways women
are pulled onto the streets.
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This is a woman we'll call bee.
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Prostitution is not her day job;
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Just something she does
after her shifts as a nurse.
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Bee: Paying for school.
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So it was, like,
I'm doing it anyway.
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Why not?
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I mean, I'm not ashamed,
I'm not ashamed of it.
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So it's like it ain't
no need to be ashamed.
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00:17:40,593 --> 00:17:42,427
Everybody having sex.
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00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:45,730
Don't you ever fantasize
about being a stripper?
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Mariana: Yeah, see, this is
the part where I'm not sure
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If I should be nodding or not.
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Bee: Exactly. (laughs)
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Mariana: Honey says she works
primarily with clients
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From the business world.
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Honey: I'm very high priced.
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I mean, I make a lot of money
doing what I'm doing.
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Mariana: She says she can make
as much as $20,000 a week.
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00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:09,287
But all that money comes
at a high personal cost.
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Honey: So I had a friend,
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And her father, he was
a drug dealer and a pimp.
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My mother was never around,
so, you know,
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I always spent a lot of time
at her house.
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And her dad, you know, he would
always hit on me and touch me.
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But, I never told anyone,
I didn't have anyone around, so.
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Mariana: How old were you?
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Honey: Um, I was 12.
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Mariana: I'm sorry if
I'm gonna ask you this,
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And tell me if
you don't want to answer
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Or if you don't even
want the question,
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We can take it out,
but did he rape you?
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Honey: Yes, he did.
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Mariana: When you were 12?
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Honey: Yes.
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Mariana: And then how did it
progress from there?
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Honey: He told me like,
"it's okay if you do it for me.
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I'm not gonna judge you.
No one's gonna judge you.
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00:18:49,496 --> 00:18:50,661
Don't tell anybody."
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So, you know, I always
kept it a secret,
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Like no one ever knew
what I did.
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Mariana: And how did
he convince you
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That you should be selling
your body out to other men?
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Honey: I didn't have a mother
and a father around,
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So I grew up thinking
that it was okay,
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You know, to sell my body.
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I was young, I was naive,
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00:19:05,078 --> 00:19:08,813
Like, you tell me it's okay
and I just believed you.
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00:19:08,815 --> 00:19:10,414
Mariana: He was a pimp.
Honey: Yes.
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Mariana: He had several women
working for him?
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00:19:12,051 --> 00:19:13,751
Honey: Yes.
Mariana: How many?
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Honey: About five of us.
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Mariana: All of them
as young as you?
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Honey: Yeah.
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Mariana: So they were
all between 12...
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Honey: 12 to like 15,
no older than that.
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00:19:23,563 --> 00:19:27,732
Mariana: After four years,
honey finally escaped.
486
00:19:27,734 --> 00:19:29,700
Did he do any time
in jail or anything?
487
00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:32,069
Honey: No. I didn't press any
charges, nothing like that.
488
00:19:32,071 --> 00:19:33,871
I just wanted to get away.
489
00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:35,339
Mariana: One of the things
that we hear a lot
490
00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:38,276
Is how women that have pimps,
even when they're abusive,
491
00:19:38,278 --> 00:19:39,744
That they just don't want to
talk to the police,
492
00:19:39,746 --> 00:19:41,045
They don't want to testify.
493
00:19:41,047 --> 00:19:43,581
They just want to
leave that behind.
494
00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:45,950
Honey: Snitches get stitches,
so if you tell,
495
00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:47,585
People will put a bounty
on your head,
496
00:19:47,587 --> 00:19:49,120
And they don't care
how much it costs.
497
00:19:49,122 --> 00:19:51,022
Mariana: Right.
That's what they say?
498
00:19:51,024 --> 00:19:52,723
Honey: The lingo. Mm-hmm.
499
00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:54,725
Mariana: Meaning that they will
beat you up if you talk?
500
00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:56,027
Honey: Right.
501
00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:59,363
And they'll do it,
they'll make sure it get done.
502
00:19:59,365 --> 00:20:01,599
Nina: Once you in it,
it's hard to escape.
503
00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:03,935
It's always gonna
come back to you.
504
00:20:03,937 --> 00:20:08,005
Once you turn a good girl bad,
it's hard to turn back good.
505
00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:11,909
Mariana: After the interview,
506
00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:17,081
Nina tells me she knows everyone
on the streets, pimps included.
507
00:20:17,083 --> 00:20:20,618
She makes some introductions,
I trade some texts,
508
00:20:20,620 --> 00:20:23,221
And it looks like it's
all about to happen...
509
00:20:23,223 --> 00:20:24,455
Until it doesn't.
510
00:20:24,457 --> 00:20:26,490
(text message tone)
511
00:20:26,492 --> 00:20:28,459
We've been in three
different locations so far
512
00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:31,662
Just today alone, waiting
for these pimps to show up.
513
00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:34,165
(text message tone)
514
00:20:34,167 --> 00:20:35,166
They tell us they're coming,
515
00:20:35,168 --> 00:20:36,767
They tell us
they're on their way.
516
00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:39,136
We get everything set up
and we wait and wait and wait,
517
00:20:39,138 --> 00:20:42,173
And then last minute,
they either don't show up
518
00:20:42,175 --> 00:20:44,141
Or they text us telling us
they can't come,
519
00:20:44,143 --> 00:20:47,445
Or they're, you know,
unsure whether we're police,
520
00:20:47,447 --> 00:20:48,846
And they don't feel comfortable.
521
00:20:48,848 --> 00:20:51,015
(text message tone)
he just bailed.
522
00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:52,650
He's not coming anymore.
523
00:20:52,652 --> 00:20:53,918
(text message tone)
524
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,854
We actually just got a text
from this one guy
525
00:20:56,856 --> 00:20:59,090
Who says he's on
54th and western.
526
00:20:59,092 --> 00:21:00,091
He's on the corner.
527
00:21:00,093 --> 00:21:02,193
He told us he'd
be waiting for us.
528
00:21:02,195 --> 00:21:04,328
We have no idea what
we're walking into,
529
00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:06,297
Who we're meeting with exactly.
530
00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:10,167
But we're hoping that at least
there's somebody there.
531
00:21:10,169 --> 00:21:13,104
The process is frustrating.
532
00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:14,972
I've had easier times
getting access
533
00:21:14,974 --> 00:21:17,608
To gunrunners and drug lords.
534
00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:20,645
But I'm realizing
this black market is different
535
00:21:20,647 --> 00:21:22,146
And darker.
536
00:21:22,148 --> 00:21:23,314
(siren)
537
00:21:23,316 --> 00:21:25,316
Okay. So, this is it.
538
00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:29,186
We're in a parking lot
of a laundromat.
539
00:21:29,188 --> 00:21:31,856
This is where
he told us to meet him.
540
00:21:31,858 --> 00:21:34,692
No surprise, he's not there.
541
00:21:34,694 --> 00:21:37,295
It could be that he's just
looking at us from somewhere
542
00:21:37,297 --> 00:21:40,031
And checking us out to make sure
that we're not cops.
543
00:21:40,033 --> 00:21:42,733
In which case it might be a good
idea if I get out of the car
544
00:21:42,735 --> 00:21:45,169
And just go walk around
and tell him
545
00:21:45,171 --> 00:21:48,105
I'm the woman with the red vest
or something.
546
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:57,448
What's that?
547
00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:02,153
Mariana: No, taking pictures
of me. They're filming me.
548
00:22:05,391 --> 00:22:06,490
Mariana: Yeah, I don't know.
549
00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:07,758
I mean, I think
cameras down for now,
550
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,660
Because they're getting
more and more upset.
551
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:10,928
Man: Really?
Mariana: Yeah.
552
00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:12,363
(text message tone)
553
00:22:12,365 --> 00:22:16,167
Mariana: Okay, come around
the corner to 1609, duh duh duh.
554
00:22:16,169 --> 00:22:18,336
Okay, we got an address.
555
00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:21,272
Let's see what happens now.
556
00:22:21,274 --> 00:22:24,408
From western, we turn into
a residential neighborhood
557
00:22:24,410 --> 00:22:26,644
And make our way to the address.
558
00:22:28,581 --> 00:22:31,382
Finally, after months of trying,
559
00:22:31,384 --> 00:22:36,253
Here I am, looking into the dark
shades of a working pimp.
560
00:22:46,466 --> 00:22:48,999
♪ ♪
561
00:22:49,001 --> 00:22:53,771
♪ ♪
562
00:22:53,773 --> 00:22:55,139
Mariana: After months of trying,
563
00:22:55,141 --> 00:22:59,477
I'm finally face to face
with a working pimp.
564
00:22:59,479 --> 00:23:02,780
He wants me to call him chill,
565
00:23:02,782 --> 00:23:07,351
And this is his
business partner, lady p.
566
00:23:07,353 --> 00:23:10,154
I know that when we were
texting back and forth,
567
00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:12,189
You were, you didn't
want to give us
568
00:23:12,191 --> 00:23:14,158
The right address immediately.
569
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,127
So you weren't sure if
we were police, essentially?
570
00:23:16,129 --> 00:23:17,495
Chill: Absolutely.
571
00:23:17,497 --> 00:23:19,230
Because of the business
that we're in.
572
00:23:19,232 --> 00:23:20,297
If you're even claiming
573
00:23:20,299 --> 00:23:22,233
That you're in this part
of the business,
574
00:23:22,235 --> 00:23:23,868
They've changed (bleep),
575
00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:27,138
So now instead of just
some regular (bleep)
576
00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:29,240
Where pimping is pimping, no.
577
00:23:29,242 --> 00:23:33,010
What we're doing now is
considered human trafficking,
578
00:23:33,012 --> 00:23:36,881
And that (bleep) is completely
different from what pimping is.
579
00:23:36,883 --> 00:23:38,749
Mariana: So tell me
what is pimping about.
580
00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:40,918
Chill: It's about choice.
581
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,154
It's they see the flash,
they see the gold,
582
00:23:43,156 --> 00:23:45,589
They see the money,
they see the cars.
583
00:23:45,591 --> 00:23:48,325
Every time you turn on a radio,
what do you hear?
584
00:23:48,327 --> 00:23:49,860
Oh, it's some rapper dude
talking about
585
00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:53,164
How he got a bunch of bitches
and all this other (bleep).
586
00:23:53,166 --> 00:23:54,498
So what do they want?
587
00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,033
They want that rapper dude.
588
00:23:56,035 --> 00:23:59,503
They see the ferrari, the
lamborghini, all that (bleep).
589
00:23:59,505 --> 00:24:00,671
They want that (bleep).
590
00:24:00,673 --> 00:24:02,206
What's next to a rapper?
591
00:24:02,208 --> 00:24:05,743
(bleep) a pimp! Why not?
592
00:24:05,745 --> 00:24:08,279
He can get you
everything you want, easy.
593
00:24:08,281 --> 00:24:10,080
Drugs, sex, rock and roll.
594
00:24:10,082 --> 00:24:12,183
That's what it is.
595
00:24:12,185 --> 00:24:13,784
Mariana: That may be the way
pimps like chill
596
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,753
View the lifestyle,
597
00:24:15,755 --> 00:24:18,589
But I imagine the reality
is far more complicated
598
00:24:18,591 --> 00:24:21,091
For the women working for him.
599
00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:22,526
How do you find the girls?
600
00:24:22,528 --> 00:24:23,594
Lady p: Clubs.
601
00:24:23,596 --> 00:24:25,296
They see us hanging out.
602
00:24:25,298 --> 00:24:26,597
We're in the vip section
603
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:28,899
And we're drinking
and we're having fun.
604
00:24:28,901 --> 00:24:30,634
Of course they don't want to be
sitting over there
605
00:24:30,636 --> 00:24:33,304
With normal people,
they want to come to the vip.
606
00:24:33,306 --> 00:24:34,972
"hey, girl, you want to
come back with us?"
607
00:24:34,974 --> 00:24:35,973
Mariana: Who says that?
608
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:37,441
Lady p: I do.
609
00:24:37,443 --> 00:24:39,276
They come back.
610
00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:43,314
They see the glitz, the glamour,
the gold, the cars, the bikes.
611
00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:46,484
They want to smoke weed,
do powder, ecstasy.
612
00:24:46,486 --> 00:24:48,319
We have all that around.
613
00:24:48,321 --> 00:24:50,120
Couple of days after
they've been there,
614
00:24:50,122 --> 00:24:53,257
Okay, now you got to come up
with some money.
615
00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:55,426
Chill: Bills got to get
(bleep) paid.
616
00:24:55,428 --> 00:24:57,228
You got a choice at that point.
617
00:24:57,230 --> 00:25:00,064
You can say, "I'm cool.
(bleep) that, I'm out."
618
00:25:00,066 --> 00:25:04,635
99.9% of the time, these young
(bleep) are gonna be like,
619
00:25:04,637 --> 00:25:08,339
"hey, I got (bleep) weed,
I got ecstasy,
620
00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:10,508
I got every (bleep) thing
I want,
621
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:14,612
And I can get some money
out of this? Why not?"
622
00:25:14,614 --> 00:25:15,779
Mariana: Is it really that high,
623
00:25:15,781 --> 00:25:17,815
Like, that amount of girls,
the majority?
624
00:25:17,817 --> 00:25:19,083
Lady p: It's not like
you're going out
625
00:25:19,085 --> 00:25:21,986
Looking for
the classiest of females,
626
00:25:21,988 --> 00:25:24,989
You know, you want the ones
that are "ahhh," turnt up.
627
00:25:24,991 --> 00:25:26,290
Chill: Or keeps looking
over at us.
628
00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:27,691
Lady p: Keeps looking over.
You can tell.
629
00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:29,460
Chill: Just keep on (bleep)
eyeing and watching.
630
00:25:29,462 --> 00:25:31,595
She done already been spotted.
631
00:25:31,597 --> 00:25:33,464
Over here, we just spotted her.
632
00:25:33,466 --> 00:25:34,498
It's a wrap.
633
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:38,369
At that point
the choice is made.
634
00:25:38,371 --> 00:25:39,870
Mariana: Chill says
that his women
635
00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:42,139
Don't work out on the streets.
636
00:25:42,141 --> 00:25:44,275
They find their customers online
637
00:25:44,277 --> 00:25:46,377
Where they can charge
a higher price.
638
00:25:46,379 --> 00:25:49,680
So when people call you a sex
trafficker or human trafficker,
639
00:25:49,682 --> 00:25:51,215
What do you think of that?
640
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:52,716
Chill: I think it's (bleep).
641
00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:54,685
If you go talk to my bitches
and ask them what they think,
642
00:25:54,687 --> 00:25:56,320
"am I sex trafficking?"
643
00:25:56,322 --> 00:25:59,156
They'll be like,
"yeah, he's trafficking me.
644
00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:03,327
To (bleep) miami,
to (bleep) vegas, to florida."
645
00:26:03,329 --> 00:26:05,195
Mariana: Do you do that?
Do you transport them?
646
00:26:18,177 --> 00:26:20,277
Chill: ...And it's gonna be
like cha-ching!
647
00:26:23,883 --> 00:26:25,482
Mariana: It's shocking
how little is known
648
00:26:25,484 --> 00:26:28,719
About the underground
sex economy.
649
00:26:28,721 --> 00:26:32,690
One recent study estimates
that illicit sex in the u.S.
650
00:26:32,692 --> 00:26:37,861
Brings in $5.7 billion a year
through street prostitution,
651
00:26:37,863 --> 00:26:39,763
Online escort services,
652
00:26:39,765 --> 00:26:43,701
Residential brothels,
and massage parlors.
653
00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:45,402
But there's no reliable data
654
00:26:45,404 --> 00:26:48,606
About how many pimps and
traffickers are operating
655
00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:51,775
Or how many victims
may be out there.
656
00:26:51,777 --> 00:26:55,379
It's rare to get an inside look
at a pimp's operation,
657
00:26:55,381 --> 00:26:58,382
Which is why I want
to see others.
658
00:26:58,384 --> 00:27:01,352
Over the next week,
I connect with two more pimps
659
00:27:01,354 --> 00:27:03,787
Who are currently in the game.
660
00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:08,258
At a cheap motel in inglewood,
I meet jack knife,
661
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:10,127
And after a bit of convincing,
662
00:27:10,129 --> 00:27:16,100
I sit down with gotti late night
at a bar near the airport.
663
00:27:16,102 --> 00:27:18,068
So these women, that you
meet them on the street
664
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:19,269
Or how do you recruit them?
665
00:27:19,271 --> 00:27:20,738
How do you get them
to work for you?
666
00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:22,239
Jack knife: On the street,
9 times out of 10.
667
00:27:22,241 --> 00:27:24,041
Sometimes instagram,
you know what I'm saying?
668
00:27:24,043 --> 00:27:26,510
Sometimes facebook, it depends.
669
00:27:32,284 --> 00:27:34,652
Mariana: What do you
say to them?
670
00:27:34,654 --> 00:27:35,886
Gotti: How are you doing,
beautiful?
671
00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:37,655
You mind if I hang out with you
while you shop?
672
00:27:37,657 --> 00:27:40,724
And, uh, we can talk
and get to know each other.
673
00:27:40,726 --> 00:27:42,726
We hang out, become friends,
674
00:27:42,728 --> 00:27:46,563
And talk about how
we can make money,
675
00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:51,635
And if they want to go along
with the situation,
676
00:27:51,637 --> 00:27:52,936
We go do this.
677
00:27:52,938 --> 00:27:54,071
Mariana: You butter them up?
678
00:27:54,073 --> 00:27:55,072
Jack knife: Of course
I butter them up.
679
00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:56,306
I got to tell them they pretty,
680
00:27:56,308 --> 00:27:58,275
So they can get out there
and get this money.
681
00:27:58,277 --> 00:28:00,511
They got to be out here
with a big head,
682
00:28:00,513 --> 00:28:03,647
So they can get out here
and get this bread.
683
00:28:03,649 --> 00:28:04,748
Mariana: Is there
a particular kind of girl
684
00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:06,250
That you're looking for?
685
00:28:06,252 --> 00:28:09,853
Gotti: Someone that's
not showing fear.
686
00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:12,523
Ready to go.
687
00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:16,493
Mickey: An easy target would be,
let's say jan brady.
688
00:28:16,495 --> 00:28:17,594
If you're familiar
with the brady bunch,
689
00:28:17,596 --> 00:28:19,096
She's the middle child,
690
00:28:19,098 --> 00:28:21,298
And she's the one that gets
the least amount of attention.
691
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:23,701
She's the one that feels
the most unattractive.
692
00:28:23,703 --> 00:28:25,669
I would show jan the majority
of the attention
693
00:28:25,671 --> 00:28:29,440
And point out how jan is much
prettier than her sister marcia.
694
00:28:29,442 --> 00:28:31,608
And jan, when she leaves
my presence,
695
00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:34,511
She goes back to being ugly
in that house.
696
00:28:34,513 --> 00:28:37,014
So her self-esteem,
her sense of empowerment,
697
00:28:37,016 --> 00:28:40,818
Her will to be number one, or
the fact that she is number one,
698
00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:43,520
Is only present when I'm around.
699
00:28:43,522 --> 00:28:47,291
So, she's gonna be around me
more and more.
700
00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:48,726
Mariana: I try to pin them down
701
00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:52,796
On the financials of their
business, but they're evasive.
702
00:28:52,798 --> 00:28:56,066
Each admits to working
a certain number of women.
703
00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:57,701
Lady p: I'd say about seven.
704
00:28:57,703 --> 00:29:00,337
Jack knife: Six is the lowest,
eight or nine at the most.
705
00:29:00,339 --> 00:29:01,672
Gotti: Right now, I got four.
706
00:29:01,674 --> 00:29:03,874
Mariana: These four girls
work full-time for you?
707
00:29:03,876 --> 00:29:06,744
Gotti: Yes. They're only for me.
708
00:29:06,746 --> 00:29:08,879
Mariana: And each takes
a certain percentage
709
00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:10,380
Of the earnings.
710
00:29:10,382 --> 00:29:12,316
Do they keep the majority or
do you guys keep the majority?
711
00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:13,350
Lady p:
No. We keep the majority.
712
00:29:13,352 --> 00:29:14,418
Mariana: You guys
keep the majority?
713
00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:15,986
Lady p:
If I'm taking care of you,
714
00:29:15,988 --> 00:29:17,321
I have to keep the majority.
715
00:29:17,323 --> 00:29:18,522
Chill: Absolutely.
716
00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:21,592
Mariana: Can you tell me
what the percentage is?
717
00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:23,827
Is it a higher percentage
for them or for you?
718
00:29:23,829 --> 00:29:25,095
Gotti: For me.
719
00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:26,497
Jack knife: It's my money.
It's our money.
720
00:29:26,499 --> 00:29:27,898
This is a "our" thing.
721
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,399
So, yeah, of course,
you gonna get some money.
722
00:29:29,401 --> 00:29:30,768
I'm gonna break you off
something.
723
00:29:30,770 --> 00:29:32,503
Or I'm gonna go buy you
something or whatever.
724
00:29:32,505 --> 00:29:35,773
But you ain't gonna get no money
every single time.
725
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:39,176
Mariana: It's crazy to me;
a woman sells her body,
726
00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:42,513
And these pimps feel
entitled to the profits.
727
00:29:42,515 --> 00:29:44,615
And we're talking
serious money here.
728
00:29:44,617 --> 00:29:47,251
A justice department study
found that pimps can make
729
00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:51,355
Between $5,000
and $30,000 a week.
730
00:29:51,357 --> 00:29:55,392
It's no surprise how
some of them maintain control.
731
00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:58,262
Have you ever beat your women?
732
00:29:58,264 --> 00:30:00,964
Gotti: Uhh...
733
00:30:00,966 --> 00:30:04,535
Next question.
734
00:30:04,537 --> 00:30:07,204
Mariana: I'll take that
as a yes, then.
735
00:30:07,206 --> 00:30:11,308
What leads a person to do that?
What led you?
736
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:14,111
Gotti: My case,
money was stolen.
737
00:30:14,113 --> 00:30:15,445
Jack knife:
If they get out of line,
738
00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:17,714
If they look like they
finna say something stupid,
739
00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:19,116
Knack-knack, slapped up,
740
00:30:19,118 --> 00:30:21,285
You might get punched up,
whatever.
741
00:30:21,287 --> 00:30:23,554
(bleep) might cut you, whatever.
742
00:30:23,556 --> 00:30:24,621
Mariana: Have you done that?
743
00:30:24,623 --> 00:30:25,789
Jack knife: Me?
744
00:30:25,791 --> 00:30:28,625
Female ran away, once or twice,
745
00:30:28,627 --> 00:30:30,994
I cut the bottom of her foot.
746
00:30:30,996 --> 00:30:32,563
Mariana: You cut, with a knife?
747
00:30:32,565 --> 00:30:34,832
Jack knife: The bottom of her
foot. Nah, not with no knife.
748
00:30:34,834 --> 00:30:37,000
I cut the bottom of her foot
with a razor.
749
00:30:37,002 --> 00:30:38,235
Mariana: With a razor?
750
00:30:38,237 --> 00:30:39,503
Jack knife: What is you
running away for?
751
00:30:39,505 --> 00:30:41,305
What is you doing?
You got my money and all that.
752
00:30:41,307 --> 00:30:43,073
What you trying to do, rob me?
753
00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:44,441
No. What is you doing?
754
00:30:44,443 --> 00:30:48,412
When I did that,
that let all the bitches know.
755
00:30:48,414 --> 00:30:50,013
So, I didn't have
to do that no more.
756
00:30:50,015 --> 00:30:51,748
Mariana: So if they want to
leave, you don't let them leave?
757
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,151
Jack knife: They can leave.
They can leave.
758
00:30:54,153 --> 00:30:56,186
'cause I'm not holding you,
I'm not holding you at gunpoint.
759
00:30:56,188 --> 00:30:57,688
Mariana: You're not,
but you've admitted to...
760
00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:59,022
Jack knife: And I don't
have you handcuffed.
761
00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:00,490
Mariana: You say it's
a choice for them, but...
762
00:31:00,492 --> 00:31:02,359
Jack knife: Yeah.
763
00:31:02,361 --> 00:31:03,760
Mariana: After you just
told me what you did,
764
00:31:03,762 --> 00:31:06,163
I'm sure they're scared
to death of leaving.
765
00:31:06,165 --> 00:31:07,764
Jack knife: She can still leave,
I told her.
766
00:31:07,766 --> 00:31:11,768
I just told her, if you leave,
you gonna remember me, though.
767
00:31:11,770 --> 00:31:13,203
Mariana: Is she still with you?
768
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:14,638
Jack knife: Yeah,
she's still with me.
769
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,206
Mariana:
She still works for you?
770
00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:17,808
Jack knife: To this day.
771
00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:19,176
You understand,
772
00:31:19,178 --> 00:31:20,711
It's either you gonna
(bleep) with me or you not.
773
00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:22,012
Mariana: So, so, you...
774
00:31:22,014 --> 00:31:23,847
Jack knife: Hold on, hold on.
Mariana: Go ahead.
775
00:31:23,849 --> 00:31:24,848
Jack knife:
There's pimps out her
776
00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:27,017
Doing way worse (bleep)
than that.
777
00:31:27,019 --> 00:31:28,485
Killing bitches.
778
00:31:28,487 --> 00:31:34,625
Out here kidnapping bitches,
for real, tying (bleep) up.
779
00:31:34,627 --> 00:31:36,627
"nah, you can't go nowhere
against your will."
780
00:31:36,629 --> 00:31:39,162
"bitch, don't talk to your
family or none of that."
781
00:31:39,164 --> 00:31:41,331
It's bad out here.
782
00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:44,801
Mariana: The reality is bleak
and all too common,
783
00:31:44,803 --> 00:31:48,672
But there are people out there
trying to make a difference.
784
00:31:48,674 --> 00:31:49,673
Okay, be careful
with the cameras
785
00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:51,842
'cause he's right
in front of us.
786
00:31:51,844 --> 00:31:54,711
(engine revving)
787
00:32:11,363 --> 00:32:14,765
Mariana: I'm in los angeles,
not that far from where I live,
788
00:32:14,767 --> 00:32:18,936
Trying to understand how pimps
justify what they do.
789
00:32:18,938 --> 00:32:21,571
I think people listening to this
would say that what you're doing
790
00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:25,242
Is exploiting women when they're
at the worst of their worst.
791
00:32:25,244 --> 00:32:27,311
You either stay and
you have a place to stay
792
00:32:27,313 --> 00:32:29,112
And you go out on the street
and sell your body,
793
00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:30,914
Or we're gonna kick you out.
794
00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:32,883
Isn't that exploitation?
795
00:32:32,885 --> 00:32:35,218
Lady p: We're not out there
beating on these females,
796
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:38,221
Choking 'em out, getting them
strung out on drugs.
797
00:32:38,223 --> 00:32:40,223
We don't have a white van.
798
00:32:40,225 --> 00:32:42,960
We're not about
to pull up and kidnap you.
799
00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,795
You can always leave.
800
00:32:44,797 --> 00:32:49,299
It could be worse.
You could choose worse.
801
00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:52,002
Mariana: Experts believe that
the majority of the young women
802
00:32:52,004 --> 00:32:53,971
Pimps and traffickers recruit,
803
00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:57,140
Maybe even as high
as 60% or 70%,
804
00:32:57,142 --> 00:33:00,777
Have spent time in
the foster care system.
805
00:33:00,779 --> 00:33:03,880
It's a crime that preys
on the most vulnerable.
806
00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,919
Mickey: Nobody cares about 'em.
807
00:33:08,921 --> 00:33:10,988
They're viewed as the rejected.
808
00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:14,424
And that's what makes it so easy
for a pimp to recruit them.
809
00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:17,527
I love you. I love you.
810
00:33:17,529 --> 00:33:19,296
Your mother doesn't love you
because she put you out.
811
00:33:19,298 --> 00:33:20,430
Your daddy doesn't love you
812
00:33:20,432 --> 00:33:22,332
Because he molested you
in the first place.
813
00:33:22,334 --> 00:33:24,034
I love you.
814
00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:30,974
Chill: If you haven't
had something,
815
00:33:30,976 --> 00:33:34,644
And you're experiencing it
for the first time,
816
00:33:34,646 --> 00:33:37,347
And it's beautiful,
you'll take it;
817
00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:40,183
Even if it's ugly.
818
00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:41,785
Mariana: Which part of it
is ugly?
819
00:33:41,787 --> 00:33:43,387
Chill: (bleep), you tell me.
820
00:33:43,389 --> 00:33:45,222
Lady p: Selling your body.
821
00:33:45,224 --> 00:33:47,391
That's the ugly.
822
00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:49,226
That's the ugly.
You're selling your body.
823
00:33:49,228 --> 00:33:50,327
Mariana: So you do realize
it's ugly, though,
824
00:33:50,329 --> 00:33:51,661
But you're still
asking them to do it?
825
00:33:51,663 --> 00:33:54,164
Lady p: Yeah.
But she still said yes.
826
00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:56,366
Chill: Again,
it's a (bleep) choice.
827
00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:57,501
Mariana: I mean,
but is it a choice?
828
00:33:57,503 --> 00:33:59,803
Chill: It is. It is.
829
00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:01,171
We always have a choice.
830
00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:03,240
Everyone has a choice.
831
00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:07,844
Mariana: Any prosecutor trying
to bust a pimp like chill
832
00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:09,246
For sex trafficking
833
00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:12,816
Has to prove that he used
force, fraud, or coercion
834
00:34:12,818 --> 00:34:15,986
To induce a woman
into selling her body.
835
00:34:15,988 --> 00:34:19,856
That's a difficult challenge,
especially when pimps like chill
836
00:34:19,858 --> 00:34:22,993
Know where the legal lines
are drawn.
837
00:34:22,995 --> 00:34:25,829
I imagine that's why
he and lady p
838
00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:28,865
Are so fond of
that word, "choice."
839
00:34:28,867 --> 00:34:30,267
Still, these days,
840
00:34:30,269 --> 00:34:33,336
Pimps know they have targets
on their backs.
841
00:34:33,338 --> 00:34:35,038
They just might be surprised
842
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,042
By some of the people
trying to hunt them down.
843
00:34:39,044 --> 00:34:45,916
♪ ♪
844
00:34:45,918 --> 00:34:48,852
Why don't you want
to be on camera?
845
00:34:48,854 --> 00:34:51,755
Jenna: For security reasons.
846
00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:55,258
We are gathering evidence
against people
847
00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:57,961
Who may in fact be criminals
848
00:34:57,963 --> 00:35:01,698
And who may in fact end up on a
district attorney's target list
849
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:03,200
Because of us,
850
00:35:03,202 --> 00:35:07,137
And I wouldn't want them to
come back and try to kill me.
851
00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:08,572
Mariana: Because these
are dangerous people.
852
00:35:08,574 --> 00:35:12,709
Jenna: These are dangerous
people that we're dealing with.
853
00:35:12,711 --> 00:35:14,444
Mariana: Jenna,
as I'll call her,
854
00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:16,947
Is a successful
tech entrepreneur who lives
855
00:35:16,949 --> 00:35:20,250
In one of silicon valley's
wealthiest zip codes.
856
00:35:20,252 --> 00:35:23,453
Jenna: I'll say to our donors,
"you know what? We can do this."
857
00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:26,756
We have an established
track record of success.
858
00:35:26,758 --> 00:35:29,793
We can find kids
for under $20,000.
859
00:35:29,795 --> 00:35:31,428
I mean, what would
you rather have?
860
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:33,897
Another diamond bracelet
on your wrist?
861
00:35:33,899 --> 00:35:36,933
Or would you rather be able
to actually find a girl
862
00:35:36,935 --> 00:35:39,636
Who's missing and save her?
863
00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:42,572
Mariana: That's the mission
of special operations,
864
00:35:42,574 --> 00:35:45,308
The non-profit jenna founded.
865
00:35:45,310 --> 00:35:47,344
There's no shortage
of groups like hers
866
00:35:47,346 --> 00:35:51,081
Who have taken up the cause
of sex trafficking.
867
00:35:51,083 --> 00:35:54,918
But special operations is
more aggressive than most.
868
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,254
It not only rescues
girls in trouble,
869
00:35:57,256 --> 00:36:00,257
It also goes after
their traffickers.
870
00:36:00,259 --> 00:36:03,693
Jenna: Special operations is
designed to fill in the gaps
871
00:36:03,695 --> 00:36:08,532
In society in order to solve
sex trafficking crimes.
872
00:36:08,534 --> 00:36:10,767
The way the system works
right now,
873
00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:13,303
The national center for
missing and exploited children
874
00:36:13,305 --> 00:36:15,539
Sends law enforcement
half a million tips.
875
00:36:15,541 --> 00:36:18,041
Polaris,
the sex trafficking hotlines,
876
00:36:18,043 --> 00:36:20,177
Sends thousands of tips.
877
00:36:20,179 --> 00:36:21,811
They can be months old
878
00:36:21,813 --> 00:36:24,848
By the time they land
in somebody's file folder.
879
00:36:24,850 --> 00:36:27,617
Man: 10-4, I'm in front of the hotel, copy.
880
00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:30,387
Mariana: Jenna has connected me
to her lead investigator,
881
00:36:30,389 --> 00:36:33,390
A former cop named mike ferrari.
882
00:36:33,392 --> 00:36:35,325
How long have you been
after this guy?
883
00:36:35,327 --> 00:36:39,863
Mike ferrari: It's been
on and off for about a year.
884
00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:41,498
Man: I only have visual on mark.
885
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,067
I don't have visual
of the subject.
886
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:46,203
Mariana: Mike's team, which
consists of three other
887
00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:49,739
Private investigators,
each in their own car,
888
00:36:49,741 --> 00:36:53,810
Is currently working a case
involving a man we'll call ray.
889
00:36:53,812 --> 00:36:56,079
Mike: He has a history
of trafficking minors.
890
00:36:56,081 --> 00:36:58,181
We know this guy is
a serial predator.
891
00:36:58,183 --> 00:37:00,650
We've been trying to develop
a pattern on him
892
00:37:00,652 --> 00:37:03,987
To find a location where there
are certainly other victims.
893
00:37:03,989 --> 00:37:05,722
Because each time
there was an arrest made,
894
00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:07,090
There was more than one victim.
895
00:37:07,092 --> 00:37:08,091
Mariana: How many girls
is it believed
896
00:37:08,093 --> 00:37:09,659
That he has working for him?
897
00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:13,597
Mike: We know of three discreet
victims that we've spoken with,
898
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:18,501
Um, but each one of them has
talked about multiple girls.
899
00:37:18,503 --> 00:37:22,872
One time, when one of
the 15-year-olds was recovered,
900
00:37:22,874 --> 00:37:25,275
There were three other girls
that time.
901
00:37:25,277 --> 00:37:27,277
Mariana: As is so often
the case, though,
902
00:37:27,279 --> 00:37:30,947
The victims were too scared
to testify against him.
903
00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:33,883
Man: Sir, he's gonna exit another way.
904
00:37:33,885 --> 00:37:36,419
Mike: I've got
the back entrance.
905
00:37:36,421 --> 00:37:39,556
When he does, somebody
get on foot to let us know
906
00:37:39,558 --> 00:37:43,627
Which way he goes
out of the courtyard.
907
00:37:43,629 --> 00:37:45,862
Mariana: Ray is expected
to appear in court today
908
00:37:45,864 --> 00:37:47,564
For an unrelated charge.
909
00:37:47,566 --> 00:37:49,399
(radio chatter)
910
00:37:49,401 --> 00:37:50,967
Assuming he shows up,
911
00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:55,572
Mike and his team will use the
opportunity to hop on his tail.
912
00:37:55,574 --> 00:37:58,775
Mike is convinced that ray
is still trafficking,
913
00:37:58,777 --> 00:38:00,810
But they need evidence.
914
00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:03,647
Mike: Any new information
of this guy will help.
915
00:38:03,649 --> 00:38:08,118
Part of the purpose of our
organization is to work on guys
916
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,121
That do slip through the cracks.
917
00:38:11,123 --> 00:38:13,390
Man: Courtyard north, that's you.
918
00:38:13,392 --> 00:38:16,059
Mariana: So they have eyes on
him, we're heading there now.
919
00:38:16,061 --> 00:38:18,895
Man: Hey, mark's got direct visual. Do you have visual?
920
00:38:18,897 --> 00:38:20,897
He's out on the street right now with his attorney.
921
00:38:20,899 --> 00:38:23,633
Um, across the street.
922
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:24,768
Mariana: Okay, here he is.
923
00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:27,337
That's him right there
on that corner.
924
00:38:27,339 --> 00:38:28,571
Be careful with the cameras.
925
00:38:28,573 --> 00:38:29,906
Mike: Yeah.
926
00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:32,142
Mariana: Discreet, discreet.
But he didn't see us.
927
00:38:32,144 --> 00:38:33,977
Man: I got you, mike.
928
00:38:33,979 --> 00:38:36,313
Walking down fuller street.
929
00:38:38,617 --> 00:38:40,917
Man: Who has visual?
930
00:38:40,919 --> 00:38:42,686
Man: Yes, mark has eyes.
931
00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:45,522
Mike: Yes, mark's to your right.
932
00:38:45,524 --> 00:38:49,592
Mark: I'm here. I got him. He's about to drive past me.
933
00:38:49,594 --> 00:38:52,195
Mariana: Running through
red lights, left and right here.
934
00:38:52,197 --> 00:38:55,765
Man: Hold on, trying to keep us flagged, give me a second.
935
00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:00,804
Man: I'm behind the subject.
936
00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:04,040
Man: I saw him one mile.
937
00:39:04,042 --> 00:39:05,542
Mike: Okay. Stay with him.
938
00:39:05,544 --> 00:39:08,011
Man: Mark, in number four lane.
939
00:39:17,422 --> 00:39:18,722
Mike: Okay. Stay with him.
940
00:39:18,724 --> 00:39:20,824
Man: Mike, too much traffic on the...
941
00:39:20,826 --> 00:39:22,158
Mariana: I'm in the bay area,
942
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,561
Embedded with a team
of private investigators,
943
00:39:24,563 --> 00:39:26,996
Chasing a suspected trafficker.
944
00:39:26,998 --> 00:39:29,666
From the get-go,
he's acting suspicious,
945
00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:31,201
Flying down the highway.
946
00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:32,202
Okay, be careful
with the cameras,
947
00:39:32,204 --> 00:39:34,003
Because he's right
in front of us.
948
00:39:34,005 --> 00:39:36,206
Weaving through neighborhoods.
949
00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:39,175
Mike: Man, I need somebody
here now, guys.
950
00:39:39,177 --> 00:39:41,578
Man: Behind you, coming up.
951
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:43,079
Mariana: He finally pulls
into a house
952
00:39:43,081 --> 00:39:45,682
Not far from stanford university
953
00:39:45,684 --> 00:39:48,618
That the pis know well
from previous surveillance.
954
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:49,886
Mike: He's at grandma's house.
955
00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:51,988
Grandma's house.
Grandma's house.
956
00:39:57,095 --> 00:40:00,096
Mariana: The day is spent
keeping track of his movements.
957
00:40:00,098 --> 00:40:02,899
Where does he go?
Who does he see?
958
00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:04,901
Who else might he
be working with?
959
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:08,204
Mike: Already there's a new car
that we haven't seen before,
960
00:40:08,206 --> 00:40:11,908
So it looks like
we got some activity.
961
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:13,777
Mariana: Traffickers are known
to move victims
962
00:40:13,779 --> 00:40:16,780
Between different counties
and even states
963
00:40:16,782 --> 00:40:21,551
To keep them disoriented and to
keep law enforcement guessing.
964
00:40:21,553 --> 00:40:25,755
Mike: This guy, he reports
one address in the county
965
00:40:25,757 --> 00:40:29,926
Across the bay,
one address in the south bay.
966
00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:32,595
He acquires the victims
in another county,
967
00:40:32,597 --> 00:40:34,898
So you've got multiple
jurisdictions involved.
968
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:36,433
Man: You can have
something happening
969
00:40:36,435 --> 00:40:38,802
On one side of the bay,
and then really,
970
00:40:38,804 --> 00:40:42,172
What, maybe four or five miles
between the two?
971
00:40:42,174 --> 00:40:44,307
But there's no communication
between law enforcement
972
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:46,409
And sometimes
the judicial system itself.
973
00:40:46,411 --> 00:40:48,745
Mariana: So that makes it really
hard to catch guys like this?
974
00:40:48,747 --> 00:40:50,480
Man: Yes.
975
00:40:50,482 --> 00:40:52,515
Mariana: Building a real case
against ray
976
00:40:52,517 --> 00:40:54,818
Will take more missions
like this one.
977
00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:57,821
If successful, mike will then
hand over his findings
978
00:40:57,823 --> 00:40:59,322
To law enforcement
979
00:40:59,324 --> 00:41:02,859
With the hopes they'll open
their own investigation.
980
00:41:02,861 --> 00:41:05,495
But there's no guarantee.
981
00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:07,997
And all of this
is to try and stop
982
00:41:07,999 --> 00:41:12,101
Just one of the countless pimps
and traffickers out there.
983
00:41:12,103 --> 00:41:15,171
Still, jenna is convinced.
984
00:41:15,173 --> 00:41:17,874
Jenna: This is a crime
that money and a good network
985
00:41:17,876 --> 00:41:19,542
Can actually solve.
986
00:41:19,544 --> 00:41:22,612
Mariana: Maybe that's a bit
of silicon valley optimism.
987
00:41:22,614 --> 00:41:24,547
Or maybe it's the truth.
988
00:41:24,549 --> 00:41:27,350
But in thinking about
money and resources
989
00:41:27,352 --> 00:41:29,853
And the ugly business
of trafficking,
990
00:41:29,855 --> 00:41:32,889
There are other truths
to consider, too.
991
00:41:32,891 --> 00:41:35,725
Mickey: As crazy as these pimps
and prostitutes are,
992
00:41:35,727 --> 00:41:39,028
They don't cross king boulevard.
993
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:42,165
Once you cross king boulevard,
you cross into money.
994
00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:45,635
Mariana: To the north of king
lies the campus of usc,
995
00:41:45,637 --> 00:41:48,872
With its nearly
$6 billion endowments.
996
00:41:48,874 --> 00:41:51,875
To the south of king,
it gets rough quick.
997
00:41:51,877 --> 00:41:53,843
Mickey: That look like someone
had dropped a bomb on it,
998
00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:55,745
Like it looked war-torn.
999
00:41:55,747 --> 00:41:58,748
Mariana: For mickey, this divide
explains everything
1000
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:04,420
About where you end up in life;
geography as destiny.
1001
00:42:04,422 --> 00:42:06,389
Jack knife: We growing up
in a certain area
1002
00:42:06,391 --> 00:42:08,658
Where we ain't got no
(bleep) resources.
1003
00:42:08,660 --> 00:42:09,926
We ain't got nothin'.
1004
00:42:09,928 --> 00:42:11,828
We can't do this and that
1005
00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:14,697
Like certain other races can
in their areas.
1006
00:42:14,699 --> 00:42:16,199
There ain't no jobs around.
1007
00:42:16,201 --> 00:42:18,902
You got a whole community
that's not getting hired,
1008
00:42:18,904 --> 00:42:22,672
And you got a lot of (bleep)
that's like, "what we gonna do?"
1009
00:42:22,674 --> 00:42:25,675
Chill: I grew up around
gangbangers, pimps.
1010
00:42:25,677 --> 00:42:28,211
At 15, you're not thinking
about it like that,
1011
00:42:28,213 --> 00:42:30,013
But then now it's in your face
and you're like,
1012
00:42:30,015 --> 00:42:33,883
"(bleep) it, why not?"
1013
00:42:33,885 --> 00:42:35,552
Lady p: My brother was a pimp.
1014
00:42:35,554 --> 00:42:37,687
Mariana: And so you
just grew up...
1015
00:42:37,689 --> 00:42:39,722
Lady p: I grew up with it. Yup.
1016
00:42:39,724 --> 00:42:41,958
Gotti: There was a lot
of pimpin' going on.
1017
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,560
Mariana: People in your family?
1018
00:42:43,562 --> 00:42:46,863
Gotti: A couple guys
in my family were pimps.
1019
00:42:46,865 --> 00:42:47,931
Mariana: So you think if you
grew up in another neighborhood,
1020
00:42:47,933 --> 00:42:49,032
In another place...
1021
00:42:49,034 --> 00:42:50,233
Jack knife:
It'd be totally different.
1022
00:42:50,235 --> 00:42:51,301
Mariana: Another city,
you'd be different?
1023
00:42:51,303 --> 00:42:52,302
Jack knife:
It'd be totally different.
1024
00:42:52,304 --> 00:42:53,703
I grew up with
everybody around me.
1025
00:42:53,705 --> 00:42:57,140
Pimps, gangbangers, thieves,
murderers, jackers,
1026
00:42:57,142 --> 00:42:59,776
All these (bleep),
it's like one boiling pot.
1027
00:42:59,778 --> 00:43:01,544
It's (bleep) real out here.
1028
00:43:01,546 --> 00:43:04,213
I grew up with (bleep)
I thought that was right.
1029
00:43:04,215 --> 00:43:06,749
(bleep) I'm seeing
as I'm growing up,
1030
00:43:06,751 --> 00:43:08,384
I'm a kid, what the (bleep)?
1031
00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:10,253
And I got people
telling me it's wrong,
1032
00:43:10,255 --> 00:43:11,788
But they got the money, though.
1033
00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:13,389
Well, how can I get this money?
1034
00:43:13,391 --> 00:43:18,294
It's a (bleep) up situation,
but it's a hustle.
1035
00:43:18,296 --> 00:43:21,731
Mariana: I make no excuses
for these pimps.
1036
00:43:21,733 --> 00:43:24,734
But I understand
jack knife's frustration.
1037
00:43:24,736 --> 00:43:28,671
It must be hard growing up
adjacent to so much wealth
1038
00:43:28,673 --> 00:43:31,975
And having so few options.
1039
00:43:31,977 --> 00:43:35,311
But what makes pimping different
than other hustles
1040
00:43:35,313 --> 00:43:38,581
Is that people's lives
are in the balance.
1041
00:43:38,583 --> 00:43:40,283
Most often young women
1042
00:43:40,285 --> 00:43:43,486
Coming from their own
difficult circumstances.
1043
00:43:43,488 --> 00:43:47,390
So I'm actually surprised when
chill agrees to let me sit down
1044
00:43:47,392 --> 00:43:50,293
With one of the women
who works for him.
1045
00:43:50,295 --> 00:43:52,028
When did you start escorting?
1046
00:43:52,030 --> 00:43:56,165
Candy: About when I was 15,
and I fell into the wrong guy.
1047
00:43:56,167 --> 00:43:58,468
And it was horrible.
1048
00:43:58,470 --> 00:44:00,503
And then I met chill at a bar
1049
00:44:00,505 --> 00:44:03,006
And he just seemed
like a nice guy.
1050
00:44:03,008 --> 00:44:06,009
He was so sweet, honorable.
1051
00:44:06,011 --> 00:44:08,878
He's always a man of his word.
1052
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,781
He does exactly what
he said he's gonna do.
1053
00:44:11,783 --> 00:44:14,017
He believed in my dreams.
1054
00:44:14,019 --> 00:44:17,854
And he was just like,
"oh," like, "I can help you."
1055
00:44:17,856 --> 00:44:20,156
And he just started helping me.
1056
00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:23,292
Mariana: I quickly realize
that something feels off.
1057
00:44:23,294 --> 00:44:26,729
Candy: He never judged me,
and he just kind of took me in.
1058
00:44:26,731 --> 00:44:28,798
Mariana: It's the most
glowing review of a pimp
1059
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,700
You could ever imagine.
1060
00:44:30,702 --> 00:44:32,301
Do you give him part
of your money, though?
1061
00:44:37,909 --> 00:44:40,476
Candy: Just, like, as if you
would take your card out
1062
00:44:40,478 --> 00:44:41,978
And make a withdrawal.
1063
00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:45,314
Only mine is not a card,
it's a person.
1064
00:44:45,316 --> 00:44:46,849
Mariana: So he's your pimp?
1065
00:44:46,851 --> 00:44:48,584
Candy: I wouldn't
call him my pimp.
1066
00:44:48,586 --> 00:44:50,353
Because he's sweet.
1067
00:44:50,355 --> 00:44:52,255
He's very honorable.
1068
00:44:52,257 --> 00:44:53,489
Mariana: You don't like
to call him pimp?
1069
00:44:53,491 --> 00:44:54,891
What do you call him?
1070
00:44:54,893 --> 00:44:56,092
Candy: My friend.
1071
00:44:56,094 --> 00:44:58,094
Mariana: And I realize
I have no idea
1072
00:44:58,096 --> 00:45:00,496
How many of these
details are true.
1073
00:45:00,498 --> 00:45:02,999
And how many of them
are simply talking points
1074
00:45:03,001 --> 00:45:07,170
To please her boss who spends
the entire interview
1075
00:45:07,172 --> 00:45:11,774
Looming over us with
a pool stick in his hand.
1076
00:45:11,776 --> 00:45:13,042
That's the tricky thing
1077
00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,912
About doing these
sex trafficking stories.
1078
00:45:15,914 --> 00:45:17,013
When you drive down a street
1079
00:45:17,015 --> 00:45:19,749
Like figueroa or
international boulevard,
1080
00:45:19,751 --> 00:45:21,951
And you see the women working,
1081
00:45:21,953 --> 00:45:25,588
It's impossible to know
their realities.
1082
00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:28,758
Some of them are
out there by choice,
1083
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,894
But some of them are not.
1084
00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:34,464
Some of them are like honey.
1085
00:45:34,466 --> 00:45:37,800
Do you ever get angry knowing
that there's men, right now,
1086
00:45:37,802 --> 00:45:39,402
All over the city,
all over the country,
1087
00:45:39,404 --> 00:45:42,905
Doing to women
what your pimp did to you?
1088
00:45:42,907 --> 00:45:43,906
Honey: Yes.
1089
00:45:43,908 --> 00:45:47,376
In my case,
a 12-year-old, for one,
1090
00:45:47,378 --> 00:45:49,278
They don't know what's best
for them at the time.
1091
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,949
I'm looking at an adult
who can potentially guide me
1092
00:45:52,951 --> 00:45:54,083
In the right direction,
1093
00:45:54,085 --> 00:45:56,152
But I was guided
in the wrong direction.
1094
00:45:56,154 --> 00:45:59,589
So it always crosses my mind,
like, if I never got introduced
1095
00:45:59,591 --> 00:46:01,924
To this type of lifestyle,
how would I be living?
1096
00:46:01,926 --> 00:46:03,960
Or what would my life be like?
Or how would I be?
1097
00:46:03,962 --> 00:46:05,995
Would I be different?
Would I still be the same?
1098
00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:08,798
Like, I just feel sorry
for the females out there
1099
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,433
Who has to go through
the same thing,
1100
00:46:10,435 --> 00:46:17,073
Because it's like, it's just
destroying a woman's whole life.
1101
00:46:18,743 --> 00:46:20,843
Uh-oh!
1102
00:46:20,845 --> 00:46:23,579
Go get it.
1103
00:46:23,581 --> 00:46:26,349
Now, I'm like to the point
where I have a child of my own,
1104
00:46:26,351 --> 00:46:30,286
And I have to make sure that
I have more than enough for her.
1105
00:46:30,288 --> 00:46:31,954
Because I want to
give her the world,
1106
00:46:31,956 --> 00:46:33,322
You know, 'cause
she deserves it.
1107
00:46:33,324 --> 00:46:35,992
You know, she didn't ask
to be here, I brought her here.
1108
00:46:38,363 --> 00:46:40,029
Mariana: So I've been
reading your book
1109
00:46:40,031 --> 00:46:42,932
And I've been taking
some notes here.
1110
00:46:42,934 --> 00:46:44,767
"a ho to a pimp
is worth nothing.
1111
00:46:44,769 --> 00:46:46,869
She's actually
worth everything."
1112
00:46:46,871 --> 00:46:48,604
"you take away
everything she has
1113
00:46:48,606 --> 00:46:50,173
Then give her what she needs.
1114
00:46:50,175 --> 00:46:51,674
You, the pimp, are the cause
1115
00:46:51,676 --> 00:46:54,110
As well as the solution
to all her problems.
1116
00:46:54,112 --> 00:46:57,480
You give her the poison
and sell her the cure."
1117
00:46:57,482 --> 00:46:59,048
So this is something you...
1118
00:46:59,050 --> 00:47:00,449
Mickey: That's actually true.
1119
00:47:00,451 --> 00:47:02,118
Pimpin' is premeditated.
1120
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,554
You know exactly
what you're doing
1121
00:47:04,556 --> 00:47:06,856
And you know
the long-term effects of it.
1122
00:47:06,858 --> 00:47:08,658
You have to be a sadist,
1123
00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:10,459
Because you have to enjoy
what you're doing,
1124
00:47:10,461 --> 00:47:14,163
And you know good and well
what you're doing.
1125
00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:16,966
You know good and well
what you're doing.
1126
00:47:16,968 --> 00:47:18,868
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