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[theme music playing]

All right, Tyler, we're live.
And I'm about to go in.

And we're moments away
from meeting the celebrity

who you're gonna read today.

-All right.
-I'll see you in there.

I'll see you out there. Ah! [laughs]

All right, so, guys,
Tyler never knows who he's going to read

before he meets them.

And you're about to get
to know them soon. Let's go.

[Tyler] My name is Tyler Henry,
and I have a rather unusual ability.

I don't exactly see dead people,
but I definitely communicate with them.

I receive messages from those
who've passed for those still here,

proving our loved ones
never truly leave us.

I don't know who I'm going to read
or what messages may come through,

but powerful revelations await
from the other side.

Welcome to
Live from the Other Side with Tyler Henry.

Sitting right behind me is a celebrity
and their friends and family

who are all here to get a live reading

from the world's most
renowned medium, Tyler Henry.

Hi, I'm Amanda Kloots.

Now, Tyler has no idea
who he is about to read

and is going to meet them
for the first time

right here on our stage.

So, Tyler, you want to come out here
and get this started?

All right.

-[Amanda] Hello!
-Hello, everybody!

[laughs] Oh, my goodness!

-Kristin Chenoweth, are you kidding me?
-Hi! [laughs]

-Nice to meet you.
-[Amanda chuckling]

-[Tyler] How are you?
-I'm wonderful.

-Hi, I'm Shannon. Nice to meet you.
-Shannon, wonderful to meet you.

-I'm Genna. Nice to meet you.
-Genna, so good to meet you.

-Melody.
-Melody, wonderful to meet you.

-Jonathan. Nice to meet you.
-Jonathan! You have such good energy.

-My goodness.
-[Amanda] Hello!

-It's so good to see you.
-Nice to see you again!

Thank you for having me, everybody.

Hello to my mom out there.

Yes, of course, we have Tyler's mom,

-Theresa, with us today.
-Hi, everyone.

All right, so, Tyler, of course,
we have Kristin Chenoweth with us today.

And she is here
with her new Netflix holiday film,

which we're all so excited to see,
Our Little Secret.

And obviously, Tony and Emmy winner.

I mean, you've just done it all, Kristin.
We're so happy to have you here.

Will you tell us
who you brought with you today

and how you know them?

Yes, I would love to.

Um, I have crossed all kinds of boundaries
with people who work with me on my team.

This is my assistant
who I love like a little sister.

-Her name is Shannon.
-[Tyler] Amazing.

Um, another boundary cross.

Um, this is my business manager's daughter
who's like my niece.

-[chuckles]
-[Kristin] Genna.

We've known each other
since she was about seven.

And there is said mother of Genna,
Melody, who has been… She--

Talk about knowing
where all the bodies are buried.

-Par-- Par-- Pardon the pun.
-[laughing]

But she is my-- These are my family.

And then Jonathan does my hair,

but it's much more
of a wonderful, beautiful friendship.

I love his hairdos, but I love who he is.

And I've known him for, I want to say, 20…

Twenty.

Twenty years so we're looking at 20…
In the 20 years range.

And this is only a year but, you know,
God puts people in your life

for a reason
and this isn't supposed to be…

-[Amanda] Yes.
-[Tyler] Absolutely.

Thank you so much for sharing
with me and thank you for coming

and being here to support each other,

and I'm looking forward to seeing
what comes through!

So, today, I'll basically
just kind of explain the process,

let you know kind of what to expect,
and then we'll go right in.

And as I scribble,
I basically just get impressions.

And my job as a medium
is to articulate these impressions

in a way that makes sense.

So, you know, anybody could tell you
your loved one loves you

or they're proud of you,
but it's the facts and the details,

and the specifics
that are only known between you

and the person that passed
that really substantiates that connection.

And that's what I try to get
in every reading.

I kind of describe messages
as like currents.

So some people come through
like a white water rapid

and other people come through
like a drip faucet.

[laughing]

I kind of have to get a sense of where
I'm gonna get pulled the most.

Sometimes that's about people
we're expecting to hear from.

Other times we'll get
information about people

we would have never thought
would come through.

Kind of, people will come
wanting to hear from Mom

and sometimes they hear
from mother-in-law. [chuckles]

I have no control,
so just full disclosure.

But as we go through this,
basically, I'll relay everything.

And big on specifics,
I find that inside jokes,

family dynamics,

recent conversations,
and oftentimes sentimental memories

will just kind of come in
as a way to validate information

that can't be researched,
can't be guessed.

That's really what substantiates
these connections.

So, we'll kind of navigate it accordingly.
I do love objects.

That's always kind of one
of my favorite ways to get to connect.

So today, Kristin, we can start with yours
and I'll give it a hold on to.

Sure.

Kristin, tell us,
you're a huge fan of Tyler's.

-[Tyler chuckles] Aw.
-Are you so excited to be here today?

Yeah, I can't believe it's happening.

I actually-- When he was off the air
for a bit, I actually prayed for him

because I saw how much energy
and love he puts into the world

and I know what the cost of that is.

-So, I'm really happy to be here.
-[Tyler] Aw.

Thank you so much, Kristin.
So, so appreciate you.

-[Kristin] Course.
-Oh, my goodness.

I've got a lot. This is good.

Thankfully, you know, it's awkward

when I sit down and a medium goes,
"Uh-oh, there's nothing."

-[chuckles] I'll be all right.
-No, this is good. Okay.

You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna take it object by object,

but first I'm gonna start with this one,

and then we'll kind of try
to connect it to each one,

and we'll kind of see where we go.

As I share my initial impressions
with this, immediately

I'm given an overwhelming sense
of relief and love from Mom.

"Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom"
keeps coming in.

Now, anytime I get that symbology, M-O-M,

it's basically an acknowledgement
of wanting to refer to being Mom

to lots of different people.

And we're going to kind of get
into how this kind of figures out.

But this lady comes across and she feels
like she would have looked younger

than her age or prided herself
on looking younger than her age.

So, if there was a conversation
around that or if you ever remember

her saying that or that being said--
Do you?

-Yes, absolutely.
-Okay.

I have to highlight
this kind of youthfulness.

Now, what's so interesting
is she highlights

the last two years of her life.

And she kind of showing me
what is kind of a symbol

of an amalgamation of things
that kind of all contribute to a passing.

So, oftentimes people will deal
with like one annoying thing

and they deal with it
and deal with it and deal with it.

And then a second thing comes in
and just kind of takes them out

and expedites this process.

-Yes. Yes.
-She brings that up in the last two years.

There's a sense of knowingness
that my time is going to be limited

in the grand scheme

and a sense of acceptance
that comes through.

It's-- There's a lot of like
surprising amount of peace there

before she even transitions.

-And I need you to know that.
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When this lady comes across,
there's a few things I want to mention.

She's showing me a couple different things
about just overall health, wellbeing.

She's having me acknowledge
this feeling of weight loss.

And when I talk about eating,
and making sure I'm eating regularly.

-And I feel like I have to check in.
-[Genna chuckles]

[Tyler]
But she's giving me this, like, shaky…

Remember that I'm saying this.

You know when people
sometimes just kind of have a hard time

keeping their hands still?

She's showing me this, like,
shakiness in the way this comes through.

-Do you ever remember there being that?
-Yes. Yeah.

She's also showing me,
and this is just one of those

quirky things that's just good
to keep in mind,

if someone moves their jaw
in a certain way,

I know it's kind of a weird thing to say,

but I'm wanting to move my jaw
like this, in a kind of funny sense.

Some of those people when they like, gnaw,

like thinking about something, or…
I'm doing that,

it's just kind of coming in,
and it comes across.

Yeah, yeah, I see that.

It's a funny thing,
but I'm going to my lower face

in the way this kind
of comes across, and it strikes me.

I want to bring up,
in the way this pops in,

two mother figure references.

For sure this one has to be passed.
Do you have another mother figure as well?

-Yes.
-Okay. Would she still be living?

-No. Passed, okay.
-I have one that…

-is living, and one is passed.
-[Tyler] Gotcha.

Okay, so we have-- Gotcha.
Acknowledgements of two mother figures,

one living, one passed.

Okay, when we talk about
the living mother figure,

and we go to her, they're having,
it's kind of interesting,

this mom figure that's passed is watching
over this living mother figure.

And like, there's a sense of when
we talk about living mother figures'

health and well-being,
she's watching over her like a hawk.

[sniffles]

[Tyler] I have to articulate things kind
of sensitively 'cause we are on TV.

[chuckles]

-But in the way this comes across…
-I hear ya.

…they're looking out for living,
Mom, health-related stuff.

We need to keep in mind with Mom, living,

that there's going to be basically
a situation where… [sighs]

…I see swelling in the lower extremities

-and fluid building up.
-Yeah.

And a feeling of like,
"How do I get this fluid out of my body?"

It's kind of similar
when people have lymphedema

-or like circulation problems…
-Yes.

…throughout their body.

And it feels frustrating,
like this isn't an easy solution to fix

or is ongoing.

And that,
paired with some other health stuff,

I just really want to kind
of put an awareness around Mom.

-Got it.
-In the way this comes in.

With what I described, does that
make sense with what you know?

-Every single thing.
-[Tyler] Okay.

'Cause there's some very interesting

circulatory susceptibilities,
fluid retention.

-Even my ankles feel swollen.
-[Kristin] It's just crazy.

So, Kristin, your living mom
has some of these health issues?

-[Kristin] Yes.
-Okay.

-[Tyler] Okay. And then, when we go to…
-Yes, exact.

…Mom that passed, do you know
if she had any history of lung problems

-in her family at all?
-[laughs]

Because I'm trying to go…
[inhales deeply]

-COPD.
-Gotcha.

I'm hearing like raspy,

like… [inhales deeply] …you know
when you go to inhale and it's crunchy?

-You never want a crunchy inhale.
-[laughs] No, you don't.

[Tyler] No, but it's kind of coming in
in the way this comes across.

And I feel like I have to highlight that
in some kind of larger capacity.

I have to kind of go
all across the board here.

I have this other guy that's coming in
over here who's hitting me closer to like,

"I should have had more time."

And he's different
and he's not related to you.

So I'm gonna figure that out in a minute.
[chuckles]

But give me one sec,
'cause there's more to cover with this.

Now, we talk about
the living mother figure

and we go to her side of family.

They're having me talk
about basically any family members

who would have
dealt with any breast-related

or cancer-related issues
to the feminine systems.

So, that's usually breast,
ovarian, uterine.

-That's kind of like the area I go.
-It's all-- It's correct.

That's one that I need to highlight
in kind of some kind of larger capacity.

There's some reference…

What in the world is this?

Just got pulled in a different direction,
so I'm excited.

[chuckles] I think I-- they're starting
to like come in over here.

We're all good there.

-Are you married?
-I am.

-Congratulations, that's awesome.
-Thank you. [chuckles]

-This is so random.
-Finally.

-I feel like I have to highlight…
-[laughs]

…partner's family coming through…

-[Kristin gasps]
-…and wanting to celebrate your union,

but I have to highlight his family,
his people.

Um, give me one sec.

In the way this comes in,
I'm just gonna look there.

-There's a very strong military kind of…
-[gasps]

[Tyler] …emphasis that comes in.
Then there's this guy.

Oh, my gosh!

Just remember that I'm saying this.

In his family, they're having me talk
about, like, a tragic situation

that may have happened, that created
an intergenerational effect within family,

where people weren't
able to fully grieve or deal.

Um, there's just a lot of sense of, like,
silent loyalty, not bragging,

not speaking about my history,
but people finding things out later.

-[Kristin] Correct.
-It's, like, a lot of stuff there.

Oh, my gosh.

[Tyler] But there's a silent admiration
that comes through.

And there's this sense of like,

"What I was known for,
that's only scraping the surface."

There was so much done
that he didn't talk about.

That's the only way to describe it.

-That makes sense in what you know?
-That makes-- Yes, I mean, beyond.

-[Tyler] Okay.
-That was unexpected.

Gotcha. Let me take a bit of a turn
in the way this comes across.

Kristin, can I just ask,
the military connection,

it's with your husband's family?

My husband's grandfather
was a prisoner of war.

-[Tyler] Oh, my God.
-[Amanda] Oh, my gosh.

And for two years was in Germany,
a prisoner of war.

And when he came back,
he came back a different person, sad.

There was a divorce.

And they're very,
very salt of the earth, private people,

-and dealt with it… down.
-[Amanda] Mm.

And I think he… I mean,
obviously people move on in their life,

but I think it was always…
there and sad.

-Right. Right.
-[Tyler] Absolutely.

You know, it's so beautiful
when this comes through,

'cause there's a sense of healing
and seeing the intergenerational effect.

Yes.

And there's just a sense of pride,
particularly in the women in the family…

-Oh, yeah.
-…for their ability to continue on

and be strong.

There's this kind of funny thing of,
like, the men come through as, like,

warriors, you know, but he's like,
"The female warriors in my family,"

almost like continuing on that.

-That's just so true, Tyler.
-[Tyler] Fascinates me.

It's really, really interesting
when it comes in,

but I just have to highlight there.

This is off the wall,
if I go this direction really qu…

Ooh, well, hold on, 'cause we have, like…

-[exhales] Like, 20 people, so…
-[laughing]

-What I'm gonna do…
-[Amanda] Oh, man.

Let me give this a gander and we're going…

I'm gonna go back to that in a minute
'cause there's a lot of information there.

On a side note, um, you mentioned
a Christmas Netflix thing?

-[Amanda] Yes, a holiday movie she did.
-Yeah. That's incredible.

So, this makes this validation
kind of like, "Okay, whatever."

But it was weird, before I came on stage,
I kept seeing music and Christmas music

and Christmas music release.

So, if you get the chance to do a jingle,
it doesn't surprise me,

considering now as I sit down
and I find out you're doing a thing.

-[Kristin] That's cra-- There you go.
-It'd be like the equivalent

of a holiday album, holiday song
made specifically for a project.

She's doing a holiday concert in LA.

-I am. Thank you very much.
-[laughing]

I sat down and I'm like, "This is…
Really, my goodness."

That explains it for you, right? [laughs]

-[Tyler] Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
-[Amanda] Wow. Yes.

Okay, let me take this a step further
in the way this comes in,

and I'm gonna go over here.

So, I have this interesting situation.

I have a very no-nonsense man
coming through.

[laughs] I have to figure out who he is.

There's this sense of people expecting
to hear from him more than they have.

So anytime I get that, it's usually
indicative of people would think,

"Thought they'd be giving lots of signs."

And people just are not noticing
as much as they would like.

Let me figure out who he is.

Um, give me one minute here.

My guy, my guy, my guy. Okay.

Huh.

One sec.

[exhales] Okay.

This is gonna sound a little strange.

I have this guy coming in
a little bit closer to middle age.

Do you know, over here, if anybody's lost
a father figure that would be kind of

closer to middle age,
like not elderly when they went?

Okay, you can relate to that.

I have to highlight this sense of,
I feel like a brick house.

Like… [laughs] …I'm just coming in.

And the only way to describe this is…

The way I would articulate this
is a sense of, kind of,

when we talk about decades
that I never got the chance to have,

there's this feeling of,
kind of, like, the plan

and the idea of, like,
we make plans and God laughs.

And this idea of just,
kind of, like, watching this unfold

in a very different way.

Within your family, do you know
where two girls would be?

So, like, two females
that would be siblings?

-[Shannon] Mm-hmm.
-[Tyler] Okay.

'Cause I gotta highlight them.

And they're putting that
in a very strong emphasis…

-Interesting. Oh, man.
-[Tyler] …of looking at.

The way I want to articulate this,
this is very interesting.

So, the-- The presentation,
the way this kind of comes through is…

heavy but not negative
in any way, shape, or form.

When I say heavy, there's just
like a lot of information there

and a lot I feel
like I want to communicate.

He's putting more of an emphasis
on the inter-relational aspect

of living people
than he even is on his own death.

So, he's like, "I don't wanna
leave a mess with the living people."

And he's showing me my symbol,
as Amanda knows,

of the symbol of keeping glue,
like glue that keeps people together.

-[Shannon] Mm-hmm.
-And then when I pass,

things kind of come unglued,
people's relationships stray.

And I need you to know the way
that this comes across,

there's this feeling
of knowing what is our responsibility

and what's not. [chuckles]

So kind of this essence of kind of

understanding people
are gonna do what they're gonna do.

We can't fix a situation
that involves so many nuanced factors.

And to be completely honest with you,
this predates even his passing.

-There was historical stuff that informed…
-Yeah.

-…and then this just acts as a catalyst…
-Mm-hmm.

…that kind of causes this to happen.

I need you to know with that said,
there's a sense of release

from responsibility,
a sense of, like, patting on the back,

a feeling of just not making
the wrong choice.

Like, I just don't feel like
in any way here you've messed up…

-Mm-hmm.
-…or this has been, like… [laughs]

-Yeah. Yeah.
-[Tyler] There's very much a sense

of taking your side
and being on your team with this.

-[Shannon sighs] That feels good.
-But it does reflect.

Yeah,
it reflects some complicated stuff

and all families
deal with complicated things,

but it's a way of trying
to kind of release that.

Amanda, before you interject,

-give me one sec.
-[Amanda laughs] Yeah.

-You feel me, like… [laughs]
-I can feel it. I can sense it.

-What is your first name again?
-[Shannon] Shannon.

[Tyler] Shannon, okay.
Remember that I'm saying this,

I can't figure out where we're going.
As I was reading you

and then I was reading you,
I was going back and forth.

Is there a William
in your husband's family?

-I'm not sure.
-[Tyler] Okay.

It's either yours or his.

Let me look and see with this.
[clicks tongue]

If I were to say George,
this is kind of interesting.

And the way this comes across,
and I were to kind of expand this out,

does anybody relate to a George here?

Living or passed?

I feel like there's a George in my family,
but I'm not-- I've heard the name.

-[Tyler] That's okay. Okay.
-I'm not sure.

'Cause I'm going to both,
and I just have to say your family

and husband's family
come through equally as strong.

It's so cute. It's actually like precious

-in the way that it comes in.
-Tyler.

But it's funny.

I am highlighting those two names.

-Both are good to look into…
-[Kristin] Okay.

…but it's like different sides of family,
different people.

I want to-- Can I hold on to
the object you brought?

-[Shannon] Sure.
-Yeah. I'd love to.

-I have a couple, but…
-I love that.

-Gives me options.
-These are both from one person.

Amazing. Thank you so much.

-[Shannon] Yeah.
-[Tyler] Okay.

-[Shannon] These are from a second person.
-[Tyler] Oh, amazing.

Shannon, can we go back
and clarify who the two females are?

And that-- I know you guys
were really close and hugging.

There was a lot of…

Yeah, so my dad passed when I was ten.

-I'm 31 now.
-[Tyler] I'm so sorry.

And I have two half-sisters.
My dad was married previously to my mom.

So, I have two half-sisters
and we don't have a great relationship.

-And don't have much of one at all.
-[Amanda] Okay.

But I hold a lot of guilt 'cause…

You know, you share a father
who's no longer here,

but we don't have a relationship.

-[Amanda] Right. Okay.
-So, that's very interesting.

Thank you for that openness.

And I know a lot of people
who can relate to similar dynamics

through their grief will find
a lot of comfort in your openness

and willingness to share that.
'Cause there's this sense of, you know,

you can lead a horse to water,
can't make it drink.

And that's so often true
for so many things.

There's a sense
of exuberance that comes through

in the way that this pops in.

Um, there's a message I want
to kind of give you privately,

but give me one second,
I'll just take note of it.

It's about how we treat people equally

and… [chuckles] …if I could do it
over certain things around

establishing and validating
this person versus that person.

So, give me one minute.
We're gonna give this a scribble.

Oh, my goodness.

Oh, do you know of anyone
who's passed since 2020?

-[Shannon] Yes.
-Yeah, 'cause I gotta highlight

passing since 2020. Gotta go there.

There's a conversation,
for some reason, around genetics

and mental health, cognitive health,

genetic health susceptibilities
around that.

And this is just good to keep in mind.
There might've been, like, someone might--

I don't know,
I've never seen this symbol before.

If somebody ends up going
and getting their genetics tested

or something along those lines,
remember that I'm saying that,

'cause I'm seeing my symbol
for usually what I attribute to 23andMe.

-[laughs]
-[guests laughing]

-It's kinda defunct now, largely.
-[guests laughing]

Um, but there's an aspect
of like genetic exploration.

On Dad's side of family,

do you know if we talk
about people from other countries,

other places, like where
was Dad from originally?

And then where was Grandparents from?

-From here, but Scottish heritage.
-[Tyler] Got it. [chuckles]

When we kind of go to Dad's side, um…

Let me look here.

Ah.

2020.

Weird. They're showing me
my symbol for COVID,

which is interesting
in the way this comes across.

Coincidentally, do you know

if someone in the family
had like a case of this

around when he passed?
Like, I'm not putting it as his passing.

I'm having to talk
about people getting sick… [chuckles]

…or a really bad case, 'cause I have
to talk about long COVID symptoms.

-Yeah.
-And like someone complaining of, like,

"I feel like I got it
and I never really kicked it."

But it would have been putting me
in that, kind of, like, dealing with grief

and then someone also
getting COVID on top of that,

and having to kind of process that.

Do you know if anyone got it
in the family at all?

-I have to think.
-[Tyler] No problem.

And we got some half-sister situations

that I'm wondering if there
could be some connections with.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

But it definitely comes in,
and it's just kind of like,

while we're dealing with this,
we have to process them.

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] By and large, yeah.

I feel
like I should have had more time.

Kristin, does this relate to you?
I feel like you're…

-Well, I mean, 2020?
-[Amanda] …feeling…

-[Amanda] Yeah.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

-Yeah, my best friend, but I don't know.
-[Tyler] I'm so sorry.

Yeah. And there could be a lot
of people, but this guy's coming in.

There's something-- I'm trying
to think of how to articulate this.

-Can I just whisper this in your ear?
-[Shannon] Sure.

-Like what I would want to tell you?
-[Shannon] Yeah.

'Cause it's kind of, like--
Oh, let me see here.

[Amanda] Yeah.

[indistinct chatter]

-[Amanda] So, for our viewers at home…
-Yeah.

Let me, like, whisper it like this,
and I'll cover my mic.

[Amanda] So, our viewers at home,
sometimes Tyler has, you know,

personal messages that he wants
to just share with the person

that maybe aren't
something you say publicly.

So, he does this once in a while.
It's just sensitive information.

-[Melody] That's, like, really thoughtful.
-[Genna] Yeah.

It is. It's very thoughtful.

[indistinct chatter]

-[Kristin] Oh, wow.
-[Tyler chuckles]

-Thanks.
-[Tyler] Yeah, I need you to know that.

[chuckles] Sweetheart. I would love
to stay in touch. We're gonna… talk.

-Shannon.
-[Amanda] Aw.

That was… [chuckles] …that was a big one.
I was sitting here like,

"How do I say this? How do I say this?"

It's just better
to just sometimes get it out directly.

I know.
I don't want to interrupt but I was…

-'Cause I was adopted.
-[Tyler] Yeah.

The 21 and three and me or whatever.

-[Tyler] Yeah.
-Been talking about that a lot.

-[Tyler] Oh, have you? Yeah.
-Finding my own…

Because there's some argument
as to what I actually am.

-[Tyler] Yeah, I love it.
-I feel like, my mom…

[Tyler] Mm-hmm.

-…wants me to do that.
-[Tyler] Yeah, do it.

I think the exploration,
knowledge is power.

It can be a beautiful thing.

There's a joke about surprise
of not having native… Oh.

That's funny. There might have been a joke
about someone thinking

they're Native American
or Native American history

-and then being like, "Oh, no."
-[Shannon] Oh, my goodness.

-That's what…
-[Tyler] Womp, womp.

Okay, so yesterday,
Tyler, we had a conversation.

Yeah.

-My mother, alive, says…
-[Shannon chuckles]

…"You're not that," and my birth mother
said, "You are Native American."

Yeah, yeah.

Can you even believe it? You two--

Yes, and I said to her last night,

I was like, "Well,
maybe you should just get 23andMe,

and you'll find out, like…

-[Amanda] Woah.
-…really what you're made out of.

I mean, that's actually--
My mind is blown.

[laughing]

That's exactly what we were talking about.

-Yeah.
-Got it.

Now, it wouldn't surprise me

one bit if we find that we were not
as Native American as we were told.

That's what I would say.

-That's what my mother says.
-[Amanda] Interesting.

-My birth mom says no.
-My birth mom says no. Yeah.

Birth mom was fun, and she comes across…

-Yeah. She's--
-[laughing]

She's very fun.

She likes a good story,
the way this comes across.

-[Amanda] Oh, my goodness.
-[Tyler] There's a sense of…

She really had a youthfulness
that she kind of…

-Yes. Yes.
-…permeates.

[Tyler] I have to just say, this is good
to keep in mind by and large within,

like, women and family.

She gives me, like,
a little bit of a susceptibility

in her life to something similar
to fibromyalgia.

-I don't know if you know what that is?
-Yes. I do.

But it generally is something
that's, like, systematic,

-contributes to chronic fatigue.
-She has that.

-[Tyler] Yeah, so…
-Had that.

…just remember from a genetic perspective.

I don't know why there's aspects
of, like, susceptibility…

-[Kristin] Okay.
-…keeping that in mind just by and large.

-Thank you.
-[Tyler] All good there.

Kristin, do you have any stories, like,
this younger feeling that she always had?

She was just a hippie

and she was my size
and she talked just like me.

[Amanda laughs]

She used to see me on TV
and never put it together,

but we're just alike.

-Oh, my gosh.
-I mean, she's petite.

-People thought she was younger than--
-[Tyler chuckles] Her age.

They thought she was younger than--
And she always said to me,

"Now, baby, don't be a smoker like me
'cause you always will look young,

like I did for so long."

[Amanda] Oh, my God.

That's what her thing was.
"I always looked young."

-[Tyler] That's so precious.
-I mean, it's crazy.

Yeah.

It's so interesting.
The things that get brought up, I find,

are often kind of symbolic
in their own way.

-Yes.
-[Tyler] It's really, really special.

It's so cute. The joyfulness, the glee.

-She shows me all these--
-Yes.

This is funny. These crystals.

You know,
like rock crystals that people…

-Oh, my God! She get--
-[Tyler] She's putting them in a circle.

It's very funny the way this comes across.

It's like I have my little,
like, mini altar,

but I wanna put these little, like,

they're like tumbled rocks
in the way this comes across.

Did she love crystals
or collect crystals like that?

-She gave me those salt crystals…
-[Tyler] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

…over and over for me
to have around me. It's healing.

-[Tyler] That's so sweet.
-[Amanda] Oh, my God.

-It comes across, yeah.
-Turquoise.

[Amanda] What was that like when you--

-[Tyler] Did you just say-- So sorry.
-Oh, sorry!

Did you just say-- What did you just say?

-Turquoise.
-Turquoise?

-[chuckles]
-[Amanda chuckles]

[Amanda] What?

You told me you had things
that you were seeing before.

So, I had something coming
in before we got here.

[Amanda] He told me this backstage.

He was like,
"I have so many things in my pockets."

Now, it's weird that you mention that,
'cause when do I ever write?

-[Shannon] That's, like, her thing.
-And the way this comes in, this is funny.

So, I was seeing turquoise beads,

and I wrote this down
with a date about someone considering,

"Do I take this? Do I not?
Do I want it? Where are these?"

It's like a whole thing
that comes through.

Just the fact you said turquoise,
I was like--

She has turquoise rings, turquoise beads,
turquoise necklaces, turquoise…

[Tyler] Do you know where they are?

It's with my sister,
but I'm going to get some of them.

[Tyler] I love that. That is so funny.
You said that, I was like,

"That is weird 'cause the way it came in."

-[Amanda] Wow.
-[laughs] But very cool.

You're blowing my mind.

-[Amanda laughs]
-Very interesting.

This is so fun.

[all laugh]

Um, weird question. Okay, sorry.

Wow, they have me go
in different directions.

-I'm gonna gently put this over here.
-Sure.

And then I haven't forgotten those.

-I'm gonna try to work my way over there.
-[Kristin] Yeah, of course.

This is kind of interesting.
So, put that there.

Give this a scribble.
This is so left field.

Kristin, do you, most people
obviously have a makeup artist.

Do you have a makeup artist
that you, like, know regularly,

like, the same one?

-Yes.
-[Tyler] So, this is gonna sound so weird.

Kristin, I don't know how to say this,
but she should have been here today.

Oh my God, Tyler, she's here.

And her dad, if I go in that direction,

do we know much
about her dad's side of family at all?

I know that…

-Mom and dad have--
-[Tyler] Got it.

-She's here in the studio.
-[Tyler] Okay.

There's this feeling.

-It's so freaking weird.
-[Kristin] Jill, I hope you're listening.

-[Tyler] Jill?
-[laughs] Sorry.

Okay. If Jill would like to come out,
Jill can. [laughs]

[Amanda] Can we bring Jill out here?

But I have to highlight is,
it's just like coming in,

it won't leave me alone,
and I want to go there. Oh my God.

-[laughs]
-It is really genuinely kind of unusual.

Whether we bring her out or not,
either way, I just have to let her know.

Like, Dad's side of family hits me

in the way this comes across
really strongly.

There's a sense of, like,
a passing over a decade ago

and this feeling of, like,
all of the changes in my life

that have happened since I passed.

There's this guy,
there's this feeling of, like…

huh, similarity between husband and wife.

Let me figure out
what that is really quickly. [laughs]

It's very cute, but he does come in.

This is kind of random.

There's gonna be two coincidental things
involving Christmas-ish.

So, oh God, we're gonna figure this out.

-[laughs]
-[laughs]

Oh gosh. As this comes in, Kristin,
one thing to look into,

and this probably will not
connect right away,

but check and see
if anyone had any birthdays

or death dates on Christmas
or Christmas Eve.

-Okay. Okay.
-[Tyler] So remember that I'm saying that.

Jill was her name in the back.

There's also like a Christmas connection
some form in other capacity.

Both I'm pretty sure are going to link up
when we look into this.

Okay.

So, just let me know,
and if we get any feedback from Jill…

Jill's on her way out.
We're getting her mic'd up, she's coming.

[Tyler] No worries.

-Here she comes.
-[Tyler] Kind of intense.

-Here she comes. Hi, Jill.
-Oh, good. We've got… [laughs]

Looks like you're coming in, baby.

-Get over here.
-I've got to give you a hug real quick.

-Thank you for coming.
-Hi, Tyler.

I'm sorry.
I know this is a little overwhelming.

-Sit down.
-Oh, she wants to get over there.

Oh, good.
Yeah, you can sit wherever you'd like.

-[all laugh]
-[Tyler] Hi!

So, this is so strange,
but I feel like when I talk to you,

can you relate to a dad that's passed?

-Yes.
-[Tyler] Okay.

If I were to talk about three siblings
being significant, like, within a family,

do you know where those three would be?

-My brother and my sister.
-[Tyler] Okay.

I have to highlight a joke
about being the middle child

or getting, like, the short end
of the stick as a middle child

-and the unique challenges that happen.
-[guests laughing]

[Tyler] And there's an interesting thing.

This is going to sound kind
of unique, but, like,

so my parents had me
when they were a little older.

So I have, like, older parents.
No offense, Mom.

-You're still 28.
-[guests laughing]

And you look damn good, girl.

-[Tyler] Exactly.
-[Amanda] You look good over there.

There's a feeling, the way this comes
through of, like,

people living a pretty good,

like, older full life,
but I feel like I've been gone

for quite some time,
the way this comes through.

So, when we talk about decades
of time passing, I have to highlight that.

How long ago was it when Dad went?

It was probably…

fifteen years ago.

Okay, so definitely kind of more
in that kind of wheelhouse.

I have to talk
about this feeling when we refer

to the last week of his life.
He only brings me really the last week

for some reason, I don't really
see much emphasis on much before

and much after, he's kind of giving me
this acknowledgement

of when we talk
about basically an initial start

and then I see a snowball,
the snowballing

kind of very, very quickly,
kind of confusing,

but basically is indicative
of an established issue

that then takes a very, very, very
quick downturn in the way that pops in.

He gives me the sense--

Remember that I'm saying this,
there might end up being like,

you know models of things,

I'm trying to think
of how to articulate this.

Check and see if there's any medical tools
that anyone saved,

anything funny involving, like, devices,
what someone would do at work,

occupationally,
but I'm wanting to joke about it.

So, it reminds me kind of like,
I had a science teacher

who had a skeleton in his classroom
and I'd be like, "It's Mr. Bones," right?

It's not that kind of thing exactly,

but they're having me talk
about like medical-related stuff

and an object that we would still
retain in some way.

Do you know anything about models?

Well, my dad was a dentist,
and he kept all his dental tools.

-[Tyler] Oh, gotcha.
-[Amanda] Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

On your mom's side of family,
when we kind of go there,

there's some very strong personalities.
[laughs]

-I have to highlight that side of things.
-Jill.

What's kind of interesting
with Mom's side of deal,

kind of a unique thing.

One of the biggest messages
that come through is this feeling of

not needing a send-off
in the traditional sense, and it's okay.

So, when I get that message,
obviously I don't know

whether you were for her
or not at the very end,

the feeling with this is,
"I didn't need someone to be there

in my last dying moments
for them to know that I love them."

So, there is no need for a rush,
no need for people to have to make it.

There's this feeling of
this was all worked out earlier

and I feel good about that
in the way this comes through.

Do you know if people were able
to physically be there as she passed?

My sister was, but it was--

the initial cause of death
was an accident where she had--

was in a-- was in a home
and went out the sliding glass doors

and went walking down the street
and slipped and fell and hit her head.

-I'm so sorry.
-[Jill] And then they took her back

and they thought everything was fine,
but she was bleeding internally

-and then rushed to the hospital.
-[Tyler] I'm so sorry.

It's so interesting that you say this.

As tragic as it is, one of the things
that was coming

through was seeing blood thinner.

And so, I wonder if there
was some underlying issues

just kind of coincidentally with,
like, body's ability to clot.

-Yeah.
-When we talk about Dad's side of family,

do you know if anyone dealt
with any dementia

or cognitive issues
where there would have been, like,

a personality change?

Not so much on my dad's side.

[Tyler] Okay, on your mom's side, though,
do you know?

Yeah, a little bit,
that she had vascular dementia.

Do you know of any men on your mom's side
that would have passed?

-Not offhand.
-[Tyler] Okay.

I do, just when you go and check,
see if any men on your mom's side

of family dealt with dementia,
just 'cause that is one father figure

on that, evidently, side,
and then relating back to that.

And then, yeah, by and large,

there's a joke
about the middle child thing… [laughs]

It just comes across.
It comes across as, like, funny.

All good,
but celebratory and positive and happy.

I will say, she was with me
on a job when her mom passed,

and I don't know
if you remember this, Jill,

but you said-- I wanted her to go.

I was like, "Who cares about this movie?"

"Go". And she said, "No, it's okay."

"My mom knows, and it's okay.
I'm okay, and it's okay."

-She was…
-[Jonathan] That's insane.

[Jill] We were up in Canada.

-That's exactly what you said.
-[Kristin] I know.

-Wow.
-[Tyler] So strange.

All of this is popping in.
Give me one sec.

Now, they've just whiplashed me.

Jill, I might… I might release you,

but I want to thank you,

and I want to give you
a quick hug really fast

-before you leave.
-[Amanda chuckles]

-Thanks for having me.
-I would love to touch base again.

Please know you're on the right track.

-You're doing everything right.
-Oh my gosh. Thank you.

[Tyler] It's all good.

-Thank you, Jill.
-[overlapping chatter]

We weren't expecting that one, were we?

-No and no.
-All sorts of things. All right.

That's the kind of the thing,
I get pulled where I get pulled.

So let me look and see.

We're gonna now navigate this.

So, we… [tongue clicks]
I'm like… [mimics beep]

-[Kristin chuckles]
-I'm trying to put my beeper out. Um…

[smacks lips] Okay.

[hums]
All right, you two, as far as objects go.

I think this is the time.

-[laughs] Okay.
-I'm gonna try to hold on to something.

-[chuckles]
-We'll see what occurs.

-What do you want, this and this?
-Hopefully something, yeah.

We'll look and see. All good.
And it can be for different people.

It doesn't matter. It's totally fine.

Oh, what a cool object! It's like a big…

[Genna] Money clip.

[Tyler] Money clip?
Do they even make those anymore?

-That's so nice.
-[Kristin] They should, right?

Oh, that's so beautiful.

Okay. Let me just put that there
so I can kind of get a feel.

All right. So, let's see. [laughs] Okay.

So the way this comes across
is really everything that pops in.

Um, I'm going there, there, there, there.

Wow. Okay. I have two
very different cultures coming in,

which is kind of interesting.

-[Genna] Sounds great.
-Let me figure that out. Um…

Huh, okay.

Two different cultures popping in

and an acknowledgement
that that usually is indicative

of when we have two very
different backgrounds

that kind of meet up within a family
and are able to… [laughs] …uh, continue

and kind of pick certain traditions
versus that tradition.

That might not click right away,
but my question I suppose with this

is can you think of any situations

where there were two very different
cultural backgrounds

that, like, got married together
at all within family…

-[Melody] Mm.
-…or, like, a mixing of like Jewish

-and Christian or like a connection.
-[Melody] My brother.

-Okay.
-My brother.

Do you know in the family
if there's any situations involving,

like, six people? Like, six?

So, let me figure this out
in the way this comes across.

I have to highlight generationally
below six.

And so it's usually indicative
of either six siblings,

one of six or sometimes six grandchildren.

-My dad was one of six.
-[Tyler] Dad was one of six.

Okay, so when we go there,
I have to highlight that.

There's an acknowledgement
of a joke around,

you know when someone keeps having
the same gender over and over again

-and they're trying to like…
-[Genna] Yes.

-[Melody chuckles] Yes.
-They're having me joke about that.

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] So it's almost like if it's girl

after girl after girl,
we want a boy or vice versa.

-It's very much that kind of thing.
-[Amanda] Was that his family?

-[Tyler] Has that been referenced?
-No, it was our family, my…

-[Genna] His grandchildren.
-My generation only had girls.

My father used to just tease…

It was one girl after another and finally…

There were five granddaughters in a row
before there was a grandson.

-[Amanda] Oh, my gosh.
-[laughing]

And he comes across so funny

and, like, just kind of like, "We just
keep trying and trying and trying…"

[laughing]

-Which is I guess how it happens.
-[Kristin laughs] Exactly.

But there's a sweetness there
and a sense of levity and relief.

There's a lot more. Let me look there.

Did you bring any other
objects other than…

-[both] Yeah.
-[Tyler] …what we have?

'Cause I'm getting pulled
in a different direction.

-Definitely the one…
-They're further…

-[chuckles]
-Yeah. All good.

Oh, how funny,
you brought the Jewish symbol.

-[Genna] Yeah.
-It's like…

I'm like, I'm not a theologian,
but I'm pretty sure.

-[laughing]
-So interesting. Okay, cool, cool, cool.

Let me go there.

Oh! So this is one thing
to keep in mind when we talk

about family and the receival
of news of someone's passing.

Check and see if anybody was literally,

like, out of town for work
when someone passed.

Because there's a feeling
in the way this comes across

of being far away
and, like, receival of news.

But I'm putting work around this
in a certain sense.

This may not click right away,
but what I want to say

is there's a sense of, like,
someone not letting the devastating loss

of an individual prevent me
from continuing on

and willing and dealing
and continuing to work,

but I have to figure out where this is.

-So, give me one minute.
-I don't know, maybe…

[Tyler] If we talk about
Mom's side of family.

Okay. [tongue clicks]

If I say Steven,
and the way this comes across, uh,

where would that be,
off the top of our head?

-Steven.
-[Tyler] Steve or Steven.

Think of, like, a cousin, a second cousin.

Which side of family is that on?

-[Melody] My dad's.
-Your dad's side, okay.

Um, when we talk about Dad's side,
this is kind of interesting.

I'm seeing clippers, clippers, how weird.

What in the world? Clippers, my hair?

-What is this?
-Oh, my God.

[Tyler] He's showing me clippers
of, like, my hair.

I know what it is.

[Tyler] I'm trying to figure out
what this is.

-[Kristin] What is it?
-[Amanda] Share, tell us.

I don't know
if I'm, like, really reaching for it,

but it's in relation
to the thing I handed you.

[Tyler] Okay.

It's… [scoffs] I honestly don't think
I could say this on TV. Um…

-The cufflinks…
-[Tyler] Yes.

-…are my grandfather's.
-Got it.

And… [chuckles] …my grandparents,
when they first met,

they were on a date
and it was really important

to my grandmother
that she was with a Jewish man.

She came from a very religious family
and my grandpa didn't look super Jewish.

-And he… [chuckles]
-[Tyler chuckles]

He said, "Well, I can show you
my Jewish star cufflinks

or I can show you my, you know…"

-[laughing]
-That's hilarious!

-She told me that last night.
-[Amanda] No! Oh, my God.

-She told it yesterday.
-Wait, was she Christian? Because…

No, both my grandparents were Jewish.

-[Amanda] Oh, okay.
-Yeah.

-Yeah.
-Yeah. So, he was…

He was joking that he…

Yeah, she didn't think
he looked very Jewish.

-He's like, "I'll show you my cufflinks."
-[Tyler] Yes, that's hilarious.

[Amanda] Oh, my God. [laughs]

While that's coming in,
I'm seeing, like, shears?

[overlapping chatter]

But that just happened yesterday, Tyler.
We were just talking about that story.

So random, we see a big snip-snip,
sometimes it can be a reference page.

It might be a reach, but it's related
to the thing you're holding.

That I'm holding. Okay. Very cool.

[Amanda] That's a good story.

[Tyler] See, that is so cute.

-Freaking out right now.
-Yeah.

If I go, okay, so one thing…

Oh, I'm being pushed
in different directions

with different states, so give me one sec.

Kristin, in your family, do you know
of anybody who's in Missouri?

-[chuckles] Yes.
-[Tyler] Okay.

All I'll say with that is just, like,
when we talk about living family

in Missouri stuff, it is what it is.
It's all good.

Just, I'll leave it at that.

When we talk about over here,
I wanna ask,

do you guys have any connections,
and this is going to open

into New Jersey at all,
if we go to, like, East Coast?

And there's you. [chuckles]

If I go there, there's something random.

Check and see if anyone
was, like, marathoning or did a run

or was preparing for, like,
a race in some capacity.

It might end up being a conversation

or a point of discussion
that comes up and I'm seeing it

and I'm bringing it back East Coast…

-Okay.
-…in the way this comes through.

So, just something to kind of look into.

What I want to do, I wanna hand this back

and kind of go down the chain of command,
so to speak.

And my friend over there. [chuckles]

-I love you. I just have to say.
-[Jonathan chuckles]

I don't know if it is proximity,
but very often the person

-who sits the furthest away…
-[laughing]

…is like the last one that I connect with.

So, let's give it a shot
and see if we can--

You have good energy though, Jon.
He's been patiently waiting.

Oh, you're amazing.
We so appreciate you. [chuckles]

-Okay, so let me look here.
-[scribbling]

Let me look here. All right.

Um, Jon, this is kind of random.

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
And you are Jon?

-Jonathan.
-[Tyler] Jonathan.

-My dad was John.
-[Tyler] Do you--

Was just gonna ask,
"Were you named after anyone?" [laughs]

So, this is interesting
in the way this comes across.

We'll need to keep in mind,
for some reason,

when I kind of tune into your energy.

This is so left field,

but they're having me talk about,
like, birthday related stuff.

Um, anytime I get that
it's usually indicative,

like, if we might end up getting invited
to a birthday party

or if somebody in the family
just celebrated a birthday.

Remember that I'm saying this,
putting an oddly celebratory feeling

around a time that,
it's kind of rough right now, you know?

But it does come in.
Do you… Let me get a little further

and I'll try to get a sense of where
that could be kind of coming.

Um, in the family,
do you know of any stories

of any losses of any babies
or miscarriages?

-Yes.
-[Tyler] Okay.

'Cause I have to highlight,
like, that, like, event.

The occurrence of this

and how that affects
kind of multiple generations.

Um, this is kind of
another strange question.

Do you know if anyone in family
had, like, a bunch of acreage

or, like, a bunch of land?

So, kind of not what you would interpret
as, like, city folk. [chuckles]

I'm going more to, like, farming area.

-Yes, my grandfather was a potato farmer.
-[Tyler] Oh, amazing.

-Okay, so if we go there…
-[Amanda] Wow.

…I have to highlight that.

There's this feeling
of talking about family history.

The way I would articulate this
is in being true to who you are

and living your life, there's this sense
of there being other family members

who were not able
to demonstrate the same courage,

but shared a very similar way of being,
is how I would articulate that.

So, and the way this comes through

is kind of like bridging the past
and the present.

And kind of like being through to--
True to who you are.

There's a sense of other people
kind of having a horse

in that race in a larger way.

Um, I need to bring up… Do you know
of any M-A-R names in the family at all

off the top of your head?

-[smacks lips] M-A-R.
-[Tyler] M-A-R.

We'd be going to female

and that would be hitting me
on Mom's side more.

Do you know much
about Mom's side of family?

-A little bit.
-[Tyler] Okay.

Uh, when we talk about her,
do you have an elderly woman

who's still alive on Mom's side of family?

No.

[Tyler] So,
no living family on Mom's side?

-Well, sisters.
-[Tyler] There's one.

Okay. One I need to highlight
in the way this comes through,

and they're having me discuss
cognitive decline, mental decline,

and, like, someone being,
I don't wanna say put in a home,

but, like, ultimately needing help
in that kind of a way.

Um, but I see ultimately people
being spread out by states,

and this is just good
to keep in mind, like, all over.

There's gonna be an opportunity
to go to Florida.

And this is good to keep in mind.

And that'll be
over the course of the next year.

Uh, I feel like I'm just going to Florida.

I don't know if I'm going to Miami
or, like, living it up.

-It looks good.
-[laughing]

-And that aspect comes through.
-Wow.

Yeah. It's just like a lot there.

-But you…
-You're going to Florida next month.

I am.

-[Amanda] You're going to Florida?
-I'll be in Florida for Thanksgiving.

-[Tyler] Oh, amazing.
-My ex, we used to-- We had a--

-We owned a place in Fort Lauderdale.
-[Amanda] Oh, wow. Whoa.

[Kristin] It's immediately what I thought.

-[Jonathan] Right.
-[Tyler] What I want to do for you.

I… You have some real…
lovely people there looking out for you.

And I wanna meet with you one-on-one,
so I'd like to extend that for you.

-And we'll talk privately, my friend.
-Okay. Right. Thank you.

-They're right there. Oh, my goodness.
-[Amanda] Oh, my God.

Thank you so much.

Tyler, I think that was one
of the most mind-blowing… [chuckles]

…episodes that we've had.

You know, Kristin, how are you feeling?

'Cause there was so much
that came through with your two moms,

and what that meant to you.

-The thing that I take away…
-[Amanda] Yeah.

…from today
is that my birth mother, who's in Heaven,

is looking out for my mom on Earth
who has her own challenges health-wise…

-Absolutely. Thank you.
-…which you nailed.

And another thing I take away,
and then I'll shut up, is…

I was praying
that each person would have a…

-And I loved her dad, and I never met him.
-[Tyler] Aw.

And the fact that we talked yesterday…

-Yeah.
-…and that that's the one, you know?

This is crazy too.
That's-- It's just not--

I don't mean crazy in a bad way.

I mean,
it's wonderful that you have a gift.

-[Shannon] Yeah.
-[Kristin] You have such a beautiful gift.

To see your willingness
to honor your loved ones,

and the fact that you were here today
to share this,

it really speaks to the fact
that they are with you

and live vicariously through
what you do in this life.

-Yeah.
-[Tyler] So, thank you for letting me in.

-[Amanda] Tyler, thank you!
-Tyler, you're amazing.

-Thank you so much!
-[Tyler] Thank you.

Thank you so much to Kristin Chenoweth
and her guests for joining us today.

Another celebrity and their loved ones
will be here next time.

Who will it be?
You at home know as much as we do.

It'll be another surprise for all of us.
We'll see you on the other side.

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