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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,162 --> 00:00:33,732 How am I ever gonna find peace being comfortable in my own skin? 2 00:01:08,201 --> 00:01:12,604 The truth is, it's taking everything I've got as a man to become a woman 3 00:01:12,639 --> 00:01:15,740 because when it comes to being a man, well-- 4 00:01:15,775 --> 00:01:17,375 I was one hell-of-a-guy. 5 00:01:21,314 --> 00:01:23,282 There is no weight, no weight. 6 00:01:25,318 --> 00:01:26,351 Oh, yeah! Press that! 7 00:01:41,401 --> 00:01:44,736 From as far back as I can remember, I've had two desires. 8 00:01:44,771 --> 00:01:47,439 To be strong and to be a woman. 9 00:01:47,474 --> 00:01:49,875 I just never knew how I could have both. 10 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:51,310 Did it! 11 00:02:15,202 --> 00:02:18,370 Some of these are my dad's old photos when he was a kid. 12 00:02:18,405 --> 00:02:20,272 And I think that's what this one is. 13 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:22,674 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 14 00:02:22,709 --> 00:02:24,476 These ones are when I was once a little baby. 15 00:02:28,582 --> 00:02:31,716 That's the trailer I grew up in. 16 00:02:31,751 --> 00:02:33,785 My very humble beginnings. 17 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:39,324 Growing up basically poor white trash, 18 00:02:39,359 --> 00:02:42,728 I definitely had issues with feeling less and wanting to not feel the way. 19 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:47,933 There are times where I got bullied and I hated it. 20 00:02:47,968 --> 00:02:49,568 I hated that feeling. 21 00:02:49,603 --> 00:02:51,403 I hated that feeling of vulnerability. 22 00:02:53,807 --> 00:02:55,874 I get him a book by Arnold Schwarzenegger 23 00:02:56,943 --> 00:02:59,444 and he read the whole thing. 24 00:03:00,413 --> 00:03:04,249 And I told him, I says: "Well, you do everything that Arnold did 25 00:03:04,284 --> 00:03:07,619 and you'll be like that, you know." Well, he took it seriously. 26 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:11,590 I started high school at 118 pounds, 27 00:03:11,625 --> 00:03:15,560 I ended up at 180 pounds and the strongest kid around. 28 00:03:15,595 --> 00:03:19,932 The harder I pushed the weights, the bigger and stronger I got, the better I felt. 29 00:03:23,536 --> 00:03:25,971 This is my high school football photo. 30 00:03:26,006 --> 00:03:28,640 On our games days, the guys would wear their jerseys and then 31 00:03:28,675 --> 00:03:32,010 the girls would wear their cheerleader outfits to school. 32 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:37,249 And me, I'd be sitting there in class with my jersey on and I'd be looking at them 33 00:03:37,284 --> 00:03:39,417 and wondering what it be like to switch places 34 00:03:39,452 --> 00:03:41,319 and be in their place. 35 00:03:41,354 --> 00:03:43,388 That was something that... 36 00:03:43,423 --> 00:03:44,956 That it's never been out of my mind 37 00:03:44,991 --> 00:03:46,625 for five minutes my entire life. 38 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:48,460 It was something you just 39 00:03:48,495 --> 00:03:50,762 thought about all day, every day. 40 00:03:50,797 --> 00:03:51,863 And... 41 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:53,698 I always been there... 42 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:56,702 And it tortured me for a really, really long time. 43 00:03:58,438 --> 00:04:00,739 And this is my picture with President Clinton. 44 00:04:00,774 --> 00:04:03,008 I actually have taken in the Oval Office. 45 00:04:03,043 --> 00:04:04,809 Part of my reason for joining the Marines was 46 00:04:04,844 --> 00:04:06,778 to challenge myself to make my own way. 47 00:04:08,348 --> 00:04:11,316 And it was another way to push the feminine feelings down 48 00:04:11,351 --> 00:04:13,952 and really focus on the masculine stuff. 49 00:04:13,987 --> 00:04:16,855 If there was any period in my life I really overdid the macho thing, 50 00:04:16,890 --> 00:04:18,757 that was definitely during that Marines. 51 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:21,926 First bodybuilder show. 52 00:04:21,961 --> 00:04:24,062 This is right after I got out of the Marines. 53 00:04:24,097 --> 00:04:25,830 Grabbed this championship, 54 00:04:25,865 --> 00:04:26,831 Matt Kroczaleski. 55 00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:29,834 You go, Matt. You're looking good. 56 00:04:29,869 --> 00:04:32,304 Oh, yeah, nice job, Matt. 57 00:04:32,339 --> 00:04:33,805 Look at his abs. Good abs. 58 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,073 I can tell you that just 59 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:36,775 being big and muscular means 60 00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:37,909 the vast majority of people 61 00:04:37,944 --> 00:04:39,378 aren't gonna mess with you. 62 00:04:40,814 --> 00:04:44,716 It makes the odds of running into trouble in that way much, much lower. 63 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:49,821 Right after that is when I got real serious about powerlifting. 64 00:04:49,856 --> 00:04:51,323 Come on, come on! 65 00:04:51,358 --> 00:04:52,757 Feeling less than everyone else, 66 00:04:52,792 --> 00:04:55,394 I had this really deep desire to win. 67 00:04:56,529 --> 00:04:57,495 Come on, Matt. 68 00:04:58,898 --> 00:04:59,831 Easy. 69 00:05:00,867 --> 00:05:01,800 That's good. 70 00:05:01,835 --> 00:05:02,734 It's my hun. 71 00:05:05,505 --> 00:05:07,906 And as I grew, I met my wife. 72 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:10,942 And while the marriage didn't last, my three sons 73 00:05:10,977 --> 00:05:12,711 became the most important thing in my life. 74 00:05:13,646 --> 00:05:16,081 It's Christmas 2007. 75 00:05:16,116 --> 00:05:17,649 Good morning, Maxx. 76 00:05:17,684 --> 00:05:19,417 Good morning, Dad. 77 00:05:19,452 --> 00:05:20,952 Yeah, it's a turtle. - Go. 78 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:22,854 Go, go, go. 79 00:05:22,889 --> 00:05:25,390 I loved my father, but he simply wasn't there. 80 00:05:25,425 --> 00:05:27,659 Oh, turtle! 81 00:05:27,694 --> 00:05:29,928 Let me see, guys. Do you like them? - Yes. 82 00:05:30,964 --> 00:05:33,798 Woo-hoo. - I like mine a lot. 83 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:36,401 Thanks, Dad. - You're welcome, buddy. 84 00:05:41,975 --> 00:05:45,811 It didn't matter if I was lying down for bed, I was thinking about lifting. 85 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:49,681 Waking up first thing in the morning, I was thinking about it. 86 00:05:50,717 --> 00:05:55,887 You know, I'd be sitting in pharmacy school during lectures and, hum, you know, 87 00:05:55,922 --> 00:05:58,106 and... you know, I did alright and everything, 88 00:05:58,306 --> 00:06:00,392 but I-- I would be thinking about lifting. 89 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:15,574 Yeah. 90 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:32,924 Yeah! 91 00:06:42,836 --> 00:06:45,937 I was the first powerlifter picked by a major supplement company. 92 00:06:45,972 --> 00:06:48,039 Being big and strong, it gave me a sense of self. 93 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:49,474 It gave me an identity. 94 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:52,944 I was the crazy guy, the tough guy, the intense guy, 95 00:06:52,979 --> 00:06:54,713 the one that could take anything. 96 00:06:57,517 --> 00:07:00,018 My identity wasn't Matt. It was Kroc. 97 00:07:03,556 --> 00:07:06,791 By the time I was done, I had bench pressed 738 pounds, 98 00:07:06,826 --> 00:07:12,130 squatted 1,003, deadlifted 810, and the world record was mine. 99 00:07:13,566 --> 00:07:16,835 Compared to everyone my size, I was the strongest man on the planet. 100 00:07:24,644 --> 00:07:28,580 But I felt like the person I was, was completely constructed. 101 00:07:28,615 --> 00:07:31,216 There was a whole, whole bunch that was missing. 102 00:07:36,155 --> 00:07:40,058 And I didn't know if there was anything about me that was authentic. 103 00:07:51,237 --> 00:07:53,905 My family had known for years that I was transgender, 104 00:07:55,542 --> 00:07:57,843 but to the outside world, I was still Kroc. 105 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:03,181 More than once I have gotten dressed up and broke down crying 106 00:08:03,216 --> 00:08:07,552 when I look in the mirror and just so unhappy with my body and how I looked and 107 00:08:07,587 --> 00:08:11,656 my lack of ability to, you know, look feminine in the way that I wanted to. 108 00:08:35,949 --> 00:08:38,149 What's up, everybody? What you are looking at are 109 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:41,786 pictures of a famous bodybuilder/powerlifter. 110 00:08:41,821 --> 00:08:44,222 His name is Matt Kroc. 111 00:08:44,257 --> 00:08:48,326 Right now that is a new Instagram. 112 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:53,665 This time around, under the name of Janae Marie Kroc. 113 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:57,602 As you guys can appreciate the back gains are absolutely still loyal 114 00:08:57,637 --> 00:09:01,039 in my reckoning even though we cannot see it quite clearly. 115 00:09:02,075 --> 00:09:07,145 This is a front lat spread, definitely a sight to be seen, 116 00:09:07,180 --> 00:09:10,882 and the mass is still, actually, amazing. 117 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:29,267 When that video went public, I decided it was time to stop hiding. 118 00:09:29,302 --> 00:09:33,238 If my story was gonna be told, I wanted to be the one who was going to tell it. 119 00:09:34,674 --> 00:09:37,108 Yes. OK, we're good now, we're good now. 120 00:09:37,143 --> 00:09:40,211 Alright, well, we're here today with a very special guest. 121 00:09:40,246 --> 00:09:43,047 We're here with Janae Kroc, 122 00:09:43,082 --> 00:09:47,285 and we got a lot of interesting and awesome things to get to today. 123 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,854 I mean, I didn't want any of this, that's what people don't understand. 124 00:09:49,889 --> 00:09:52,390 I mean, I fought this as hard as I could, as long as I could. 125 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:55,960 Uhm, this isn't what I wanted. This was never a choice. You know, this is like... 126 00:09:55,995 --> 00:09:59,797 It's either this or be miserable, you know, forever, and, uhm... 127 00:09:59,832 --> 00:10:02,133 You know, at one point it drove me to consider suicide, and 128 00:10:02,168 --> 00:10:04,736 to be honest, this will be the biggest challenge I've ever faced, 129 00:10:04,771 --> 00:10:06,337 way harder than any of the injuries 130 00:10:06,372 --> 00:10:07,805 or even cancer for me. 131 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,674 Uhm, this is way more difficult. 132 00:10:09,709 --> 00:10:12,377 When did you have cancer? - Back in 2004. 133 00:10:12,412 --> 00:10:16,014 Testicular cancer, ironically, and I remember thinking, 134 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:18,950 "God, I hope it spreads everywhere, and they have to remove everything." 135 00:10:18,985 --> 00:10:21,219 I knew, like, being a pharmacist and having a medical background, 136 00:10:21,254 --> 00:10:22,420 I knew that's not how the cancer spreads. 137 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:24,389 That's how overwhelming 138 00:10:24,424 --> 00:10:27,325 this feeling was to need to be female. - That's crazy. 139 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,060 You're very physical, I mean, 140 00:10:29,095 --> 00:10:31,095 you had world records in powerlifting, 141 00:10:31,130 --> 00:10:34,666 a former marine, in general, just a fucking badass, 142 00:10:34,701 --> 00:10:37,435 so it's not like you're saying you're a girly girl, but-- 143 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:38,270 Right, but yeah... 144 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:41,272 When it comes to being a dude, you were a tough motherfucker. 145 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:43,408 Yeah, and thank you. 146 00:10:43,443 --> 00:10:45,777 It sounds funny coming out of me now, but, 147 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:48,079 That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said. 148 00:10:48,114 --> 00:10:49,981 Janae, don't break down. 149 00:10:50,016 --> 00:10:51,816 The hardest thing with my failed 150 00:10:51,851 --> 00:10:53,317 transition attempts in the past was, 151 00:10:53,352 --> 00:10:55,687 there's only two things really on my mind: 152 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,122 Being comfortable letting go of all that muscle 153 00:10:58,157 --> 00:11:00,258 and all that strength because not only 154 00:11:00,293 --> 00:11:02,760 you know, did I enjoy those things for competition and stuff, 155 00:11:02,795 --> 00:11:04,796 but it was a safety blanket and always has been. 156 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:07,198 But then also, how is this gonna affect my boys? 157 00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:10,034 They're a hundred percent supportive. I mean, they've been telling me for years, 158 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:13,004 you know, "Do what you need to do. We love you either way. It doesn't matter." 159 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:16,207 But they're going from having the world champion powerlifter, 160 00:11:16,242 --> 00:11:19,143 super-dad that everyone looks up to, everybody loves their... 161 00:11:19,178 --> 00:11:21,312 I mean, the coaches and stuff all love me. 162 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:23,381 Now they're gonna have the transgender dad. 163 00:11:23,416 --> 00:11:25,283 That was very permanent. - It is. 164 00:11:25,318 --> 00:11:27,151 You know, and for them to say, "Hey, go do your thing" 165 00:11:27,186 --> 00:11:29,821 is really cool, but I think at the same time, 166 00:11:29,856 --> 00:11:33,224 it's good that you're recognizing that it's different, you know. 167 00:11:37,463 --> 00:11:39,764 So, you said you're kind of transitioning now, 168 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:41,966 and you said that kind of means losing weight? 169 00:11:42,001 --> 00:11:43,835 So, at this point, I am cutting weight. 170 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:46,070 Uhm, I've restarted female hormones. 171 00:11:46,105 --> 00:11:47,839 I'm moving forward with it. 172 00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:49,273 Is it a hundred percent? 173 00:11:49,308 --> 00:11:51,075 I've started and stopped five times before. 174 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:52,844 So, there's... You know, never say never. 175 00:12:02,155 --> 00:12:04,422 At first, you know, the attempt to transition was just 176 00:12:04,457 --> 00:12:07,025 dieting for a few months, stopping lifting. 177 00:12:08,361 --> 00:12:11,395 In my most recent attempt last year, I had dropped my lifting weight back 178 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:14,899 and started taking female hormones, and before I decided that, 179 00:12:14,934 --> 00:12:16,167 "You know what, I can't do this." 180 00:12:20,807 --> 00:12:23,942 After that, I came back, and I got bigger than I'd ever been. 181 00:12:29,048 --> 00:12:32,884 For me, to be the woman that I want to be in appearance 182 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:35,153 and physical form, might not be possible. 183 00:12:38,491 --> 00:12:43,094 I don't think I am comfortable as an extremely muscular woman, 184 00:12:43,129 --> 00:12:47,766 but as a guy, that's the only way I'm comfortable. So, what do I do? 185 00:12:54,307 --> 00:12:56,541 Hey, guys. Finally made it, huh? 186 00:12:58,344 --> 00:13:00,945 How's your day been? - Nice day. 187 00:13:04,417 --> 00:13:06,551 It's good to see you, guys. - I know, it is. 188 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,555 I just saw you a couple of days ago. - I know. It was nice. 189 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:12,557 Got to see your football game, too. 190 00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:14,959 Maxx, where's my hug, man? - Just got my pillowcase. 191 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,528 I don't know why I always bring one. 192 00:13:17,563 --> 00:13:19,030 Why do you bring a pillowcase with you? 193 00:13:19,065 --> 00:13:23,267 Garret, can you do it today? 194 00:13:23,302 --> 00:13:26,838 Tonight, I'm gonna go out to a club and stay out. You guys wanna come? 195 00:13:26,873 --> 00:13:29,140 We can't. Logan can. - I'll sneak you in, get you some beers. 196 00:13:31,611 --> 00:13:33,845 A pillowcase, dude, when are you gonna get a backpack or something? 197 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,179 I don't know. - I know, that... 198 00:13:35,214 --> 00:13:36,948 OK, my buddy, 199 00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:39,550 we might have some of the stuff for the Camaro. 200 00:13:39,585 --> 00:13:42,453 It was running really smooth, but then it was bogging when I'd open all the way up, 201 00:13:42,488 --> 00:13:44,889 especially about three, and especially about 4,000. 202 00:13:44,924 --> 00:13:47,925 So basically, I'm going into each one of these little cells, and... 203 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,594 Usually you make slight adjustments? - Yeah. 204 00:13:49,629 --> 00:13:52,029 You never want to make big adjustments. 205 00:13:52,064 --> 00:13:53,431 That's how you blow motors up. 206 00:13:53,466 --> 00:13:55,400 Logan, do you understand this stuff? 207 00:13:56,602 --> 00:13:59,237 Not all, not a hundred percent of it, but yes. 208 00:13:59,272 --> 00:14:01,906 Neither do I. - I don't get it, how you guys know that. 209 00:14:01,941 --> 00:14:05,509 OK, so do you... OK, what don't you understand, Maxx? What does the spark mean? 210 00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:07,700 I explained to you like the compression stroke, right? 211 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:09,080 No, like, just everything. 212 00:14:09,115 --> 00:14:11,415 Like how many... Everything? - Everything about it. 213 00:14:11,450 --> 00:14:13,351 Is everybody buckled in? - I'm buckled. 214 00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:15,119 Yeah, I am. - Dad, I only get like 215 00:14:15,154 --> 00:14:17,154 one of those words you just said. 216 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:18,422 I was like, "What's spark?" 217 00:14:21,127 --> 00:14:23,561 You'll learn, Maxx, you'll learn. - Hold on to it. 218 00:14:41,414 --> 00:14:44,315 I'm really, really fortunate to have three amazing boys. 219 00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:49,553 I told them about being a girl when they were two, four, and six. 220 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:54,091 I'm a very big believer in honesty and openness, 221 00:14:54,126 --> 00:14:56,127 so I didn't feel it was right to keep it from them. 222 00:15:00,299 --> 00:15:03,000 The hair says no. The hair says no. 223 00:15:05,037 --> 00:15:06,170 Oh, no. 224 00:15:07,506 --> 00:15:09,073 Hey, that's not fair. 225 00:15:10,609 --> 00:15:11,642 Good job. 226 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,714 Pull the pants. - O, get... Hold on. 227 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:18,282 We got speed. 228 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:24,488 Argh! - Yeah! 229 00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:31,229 No rematch. We're done. - No rematch. 230 00:15:33,532 --> 00:15:35,099 Alright. 231 00:15:35,134 --> 00:15:36,634 I might try that on and see 232 00:15:36,669 --> 00:15:38,703 how that's gonna look. 233 00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:40,705 Actually, I might give that a try too. 234 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:45,443 Oh... We'll see. 235 00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:51,349 Nah, it's a little bit burly. Don't think I really like the way it hangs on my body. 236 00:15:55,421 --> 00:15:57,322 Think I wanna go with the other shirt, actually. 237 00:15:59,392 --> 00:16:04,362 Yes, that should work for the white theme and... And wear these boots with them. 238 00:16:05,498 --> 00:16:08,299 Just a little more dramatic and the makeup and hair... it should be fun. 239 00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:13,671 Clothes aren't designed very well for me and especially, being as big as I am. 240 00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:16,140 So we go through the same thing, like when a girl starts 241 00:16:16,175 --> 00:16:18,109 playing with makeup, when she's a teenager, 242 00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:20,511 how to best apply your makeup and 243 00:16:20,546 --> 00:16:23,047 what clothes work with your body and what doesn't. 244 00:16:25,051 --> 00:16:27,151 Whose water is this? Is this you guys' water? 245 00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:31,155 Huh? Yeah, it's mine. 246 00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:35,326 Shoot, it's out. 247 00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:46,103 Oh! Aaron Black. - No, no. Dude, I'm not gonna play with you. 248 00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:47,705 Dude, Aaron Black is like cheating. - Yes. 249 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:50,141 He just shoots you with the gun in broad light. 250 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,676 Dude, no. Don't Aaron Black. That's so mean. 251 00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:55,312 People can say whatever, but the only thing that do frustrate me is 252 00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:58,282 when they talk about like, you know, "what a terrible parent, how... 253 00:16:58,317 --> 00:17:01,352 You know, horrible that is. How can you do that to your boys" and stuff like that. 254 00:17:01,387 --> 00:17:05,256 It's like, "You know what? Screw you guys. You have no idea what our life is like." 255 00:17:05,291 --> 00:17:07,658 It's just that assumption that it's... 256 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:11,629 you know, that it's somehow a horrible thing and somehow it's difficult for them. 257 00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:15,699 But really, it's been a good thing because it's allowed them realize, 258 00:17:15,734 --> 00:17:18,636 grow up realizing that not everybody's the same and that's OK. 259 00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:21,105 And you're happier, which is great too. 260 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:23,541 I don't know, I just thought you were like holding back and stuff. 261 00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:27,411 Well, yeah, because I didn't want you guys to have to deal with a lot of BS. 262 00:17:27,446 --> 00:17:32,183 Who cares about what other people say or, you know, tell you can't do this or that. 263 00:17:32,218 --> 00:17:35,619 I think what it really all boils down to, if you want to do something, go and do it. 264 00:17:35,654 --> 00:17:38,289 You're the only person holding yourself back. 265 00:17:38,324 --> 00:17:39,791 That's what you really taught me. 266 00:17:42,161 --> 00:17:45,329 I cannot think of a single person, I respect more than my father. 267 00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:48,800 Saying there's really nobody, right? - I really can't. 268 00:17:50,703 --> 00:17:52,470 Thanks, guys. 269 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:53,704 Made me cry. Ruin my makeup. 270 00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:57,708 Good thing, I haven't done my eyes yet. 271 00:18:00,146 --> 00:18:01,879 How long have you been doing makeup for? 272 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:04,381 I started really, like, When your mom and I split. 273 00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:07,351 I had a talk with her and, uhm, said, like, 274 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:10,488 "Look, I have to deal with this. I can't do this anymore." 275 00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:13,724 As far as she would come, is that: "Just do it, when I'm not home, 276 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:15,860 the boys aren't home, I don't want to see it. I don't want to hear about it. 277 00:18:15,895 --> 00:18:18,229 I don't want to talk about it." And I was like, 278 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:20,297 Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna work, but... 279 00:18:20,332 --> 00:18:24,135 So, that's basically one of the reasons we split up. 280 00:18:27,173 --> 00:18:30,341 Pizza and makeup, huh? Our new Friday nights? 281 00:18:37,816 --> 00:18:39,884 Whoa, whoa, whoa. - That's not even cool. 282 00:18:41,187 --> 00:18:43,287 Wait, Garret, can I test out my move now? 283 00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:53,864 All right guys, don't be up too late, alright? 284 00:18:53,899 --> 00:18:57,201 Guys, just the perfect timing. - Are you leaving? 285 00:18:57,236 --> 00:18:59,937 U-hum, hang on one second, I got to put my boots on first. 286 00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:01,372 Mom. - Mom? 287 00:19:01,407 --> 00:19:02,873 Don't drink too much. 288 00:19:02,908 --> 00:19:04,408 Don't drink too much? 289 00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:05,376 What fun is that? 290 00:19:07,346 --> 00:19:08,579 At least it's nice out. 291 00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:32,436 I'll get your first round, OK? - What's up, dude? 292 00:19:32,471 --> 00:19:33,604 I'll give you your first round. 293 00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:35,973 OK, thank you. Appreciate it. 294 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:37,708 Full-size glass. - Thanks. 295 00:19:37,743 --> 00:19:39,177 You're a rock-star. 296 00:19:40,413 --> 00:19:43,347 Like I said, that bartender back there, he totally like... 297 00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:46,617 I'll take it, whatever. 298 00:20:02,001 --> 00:20:04,635 Going out as a transgender woman and not, you know, 299 00:20:04,670 --> 00:20:08,005 passing as a genetic female, it's tough, it's hard. 300 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,575 You know, and I think, gosh, can I really pull this off? 301 00:20:11,610 --> 00:20:13,477 You know, is it really gonna work? 302 00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:26,323 Am I gonna to have peace? Am I gonna to feel whole? Am I gonna to feel complete? 303 00:20:26,358 --> 00:20:30,962 Am I gonna be able to, you now, function in society the way I want to? Is this for real? 304 00:20:40,572 --> 00:20:43,307 Hey. Good. How are you? - How are you? Good to see you. 305 00:20:43,342 --> 00:20:45,643 Follow me this way. - All right. Thanks. 306 00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:52,483 Are you guys ready to order or you just want to see the menu? 307 00:20:52,518 --> 00:20:54,318 No. - Did you need a minute? 308 00:20:54,353 --> 00:20:56,754 No, I'm good. I'm just gonna do a Chef's salad. 309 00:20:56,789 --> 00:21:00,258 Large Chef's salad. - Uhm, how big are the smalls? 310 00:21:01,493 --> 00:21:03,027 A small is small. - You know you don't want no small. 311 00:21:03,062 --> 00:21:04,528 All right. Large. - Do large. 312 00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:05,696 As usual. 313 00:21:05,731 --> 00:21:07,831 Great. Thank you. 314 00:21:07,866 --> 00:21:09,600 Thanks. 315 00:21:09,635 --> 00:21:11,035 A small? - Yes, right. 316 00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:12,937 When do I order small anything, right? 317 00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,510 Chef's salad. - Thank you. 318 00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:22,980 I've got French Fries for you. - Thank you. 319 00:21:23,015 --> 00:21:25,049 Bacon and cheese. 320 00:21:25,084 --> 00:21:26,884 I will be right back with your vinegar and oil. 321 00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:28,652 Alright. Awesome. Thank you. 322 00:21:28,687 --> 00:21:30,521 So, we're going up north tomorrow, 323 00:21:30,556 --> 00:21:32,623 and my mom's meeting Janae for the first time. 324 00:21:32,658 --> 00:21:35,592 Oh, my God. No, but I'm saying like, 325 00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:37,828 this is your first time meeting your mom as Janae. 326 00:21:37,863 --> 00:21:41,965 I said: "Look, mom, I understood, like, that you don't understand 327 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,601 and that you had a hard time with it, I get all that." 328 00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:49,773 I said: "But what I don't get it's been 10 years, and you haven't even tried." 329 00:21:49,808 --> 00:21:51,442 We can't even have a conversation about it. 330 00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:52,509 As soon as I start talking about it, 331 00:21:52,544 --> 00:21:53,811 you change your topic." 332 00:21:53,846 --> 00:21:55,612 So, you know, she's had 333 00:21:55,647 --> 00:21:57,481 every opportunity in the world. 334 00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:59,850 So, you know, it's her own fault. 335 00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:02,653 It's so true. 336 00:22:12,731 --> 00:22:15,532 Hello. - Hey. How's it's going? 337 00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:16,129 What's up? 338 00:22:16,329 --> 00:22:19,136 Oh, I just let you know, like give you the time, 339 00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:22,406 I'll probably leave here in about 45 minutes or so. So probably around 11... 340 00:22:22,441 --> 00:22:22,992 OK. 341 00:22:22,993 --> 00:22:25,109 OK. Then I'll probably be there around 1:00. 342 00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:28,078 It's what I'm thinking. - Are you going to your dad? 343 00:22:28,113 --> 00:22:30,647 Yeah. I'm gonna visit you first and go visit him. 344 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:33,884 Yeah. - Oh. Fine. That'll be fine. 345 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:36,420 Alright. So, you're ready for this? 346 00:22:37,122 --> 00:22:38,789 I have no choice. Do I? 347 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,858 Well, I've given you 10 years. 348 00:22:40,893 --> 00:22:42,827 I'm hoping that you're ready now. 349 00:22:43,762 --> 00:22:47,965 I don't know. We'll see.. - You'll be fine. 350 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,668 Yes. Sure. That's easy for you to say. 351 00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:56,640 You think it's easy for me? Don't you think it's harder for me than you? 352 00:22:57,576 --> 00:22:58,942 No. - No? 353 00:22:58,977 --> 00:23:00,644 For you it's so natural. 354 00:23:00,679 --> 00:23:01,679 Yeah. 355 00:23:08,754 --> 00:23:12,956 As a guy, I hear from women all the time they love my voice. 356 00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:16,660 It's naturally deep. As a girl, it makes me very uncomfortable, and... 357 00:23:16,695 --> 00:23:19,597 It's like my female voice leaves a lot to be desired. 358 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:22,866 The vocal surgery, it had to be something, well... 359 00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:25,035 I'm 100% ready to give up my guy side. 360 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:29,206 You know, it's one of those things that I can't do, or I won't do 361 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:32,009 unless I was ready to completely transition. 362 00:23:32,044 --> 00:23:33,434 I would be much more comfortable 363 00:23:33,634 --> 00:23:35,979 having bottom surgery and still living in both genders. 364 00:23:36,014 --> 00:23:39,616 The fact that whether I have a penis or vagina isn't that big of a deal to me. 365 00:23:39,651 --> 00:23:42,753 That really has more to do with who I'm with. 366 00:23:42,788 --> 00:23:47,425 But the vocal surgery, once you got a female voice, there's no going back. 367 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,613 He's here. 368 00:24:09,648 --> 00:24:12,450 Hi, honey. - Hi, nice to see you. 369 00:24:13,252 --> 00:24:15,820 It's not a big deal, is it? - No. 370 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:20,858 But, uhm... I still like my man. 371 00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:24,795 Well, for now, they're still both of me are still around, 372 00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:26,931 but I can't tell you that it'll stay that way or not. 373 00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:31,535 And I guess I'm not as shocked about you because the ones I see on TV. 374 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:37,107 I mean, they look like a man trying to be a woman. There's nothing... 375 00:24:38,076 --> 00:24:40,744 It doesn't matter, it's-- - No, but I mean, they don't-- 376 00:24:40,779 --> 00:24:42,980 It's not your body. It's how you feel. 377 00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:45,203 Would you think that wasn't his hair? Matt's hair? 378 00:24:45,403 --> 00:24:45,916 Huh? 379 00:24:45,951 --> 00:24:47,217 Which-- look. - Janae's hair? 380 00:24:47,252 --> 00:24:49,152 Or her hair? Would you think that was her hair? 381 00:24:49,187 --> 00:24:50,854 No. 382 00:24:50,889 --> 00:24:52,289 No. You would think it is. 383 00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,725 Looks natural, right? - Yeah. 384 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,593 I didn't know. It looks natural. 385 00:24:56,628 --> 00:24:58,295 And it's not. 386 00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:01,698 When Matt first called me, for a while, I grieved. 387 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:04,601 I actually... I couldn't sort my feelings. 388 00:25:04,636 --> 00:25:08,639 I thought, "Why in hell?" I'm... But it was almost like Matt died. 389 00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:13,677 I talked to my middle son and he said the same thing. 390 00:25:13,712 --> 00:25:17,681 He said, "I love Matt. I don't know this Janae. 391 00:25:17,716 --> 00:25:19,249 Matt is my buddy, my brother. 392 00:25:19,284 --> 00:25:22,185 We grew up, we did the guy things." You know... 393 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:27,157 And, uhm... it's hard, you grieve, you hate it, you hide it. 394 00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:28,959 You don't want to talk about it. 395 00:25:31,663 --> 00:25:34,298 Living in this area, people say, "How's Matt doing?" 396 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,733 I say: "Just fine." That's all I say. I don't talk about it. 397 00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:39,803 But as a mother, it's the hardest thing I dealt with. 398 00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:41,204 It's like a death. 399 00:25:41,239 --> 00:25:42,839 And people will say: "No, it's not." 400 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:45,576 To me, it is. I grieved, you cry, but 401 00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:48,212 it comes down to... it's your child. 402 00:25:49,948 --> 00:25:53,717 You can love him, walk away or... I'm not walking away. 403 00:25:58,790 --> 00:26:03,260 Having to convert back to Matt, sometimes it's like depressing, a little bit. 404 00:26:04,796 --> 00:26:07,364 I really don't like my face. 405 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:10,234 I feel a lot better with the makeup and wig on. 406 00:26:13,705 --> 00:26:16,006 When I'm going around as Janae, I mean, I'm conscious 407 00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:18,609 of how I sound, but it's not like I make an effort. 408 00:26:18,644 --> 00:26:21,244 It's not like... I mean, a little bit with a pitch 409 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,982 but the way I talk and you'll notice my manners, I'm changed to a certain degree. 410 00:26:25,017 --> 00:26:29,786 And just the way I form my sentences and the intonation behind my voice. 411 00:26:29,821 --> 00:26:30,821 That just all happens. 412 00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:47,037 Hello? - Hey, what's up, old man? 413 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,108 Hello, Matt. Where are you at? 414 00:26:51,143 --> 00:26:53,877 At mom's, leaving mom's right now. I'll be there in about 10 minutes. 415 00:26:54,913 --> 00:26:56,080 Oh, OK. 416 00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:02,185 Last time I saw mom. When I saw you when you were 417 00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:04,755 camping by the river last summer. And then... - Yeah. 418 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:07,090 You should've come up when the UP was up there. 419 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,292 Yes, I just didn't have time. 420 00:27:09,327 --> 00:27:11,261 You know, when you do get busy, you got to get stuff done, you know. 421 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:13,697 But... But if you go up there again, 422 00:27:13,732 --> 00:27:15,666 if you do head up there this summer, let me know. I'll bring the boys. 423 00:27:18,937 --> 00:27:21,104 I was glad to see Matt succeed 424 00:27:21,139 --> 00:27:24,174 at what he'd been doing all his life. 425 00:27:24,209 --> 00:27:27,177 And, I mean, he worked hard at it. And... 426 00:27:27,212 --> 00:27:32,983 Neither me or my wife, you know, ever dreamed that, you know, he'd get as far as he did. 427 00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:37,721 I'd see him stick with it. 428 00:27:37,756 --> 00:27:39,323 You know. 429 00:27:40,726 --> 00:27:44,061 Yeah, well, things are going down a different path now. 430 00:27:44,096 --> 00:27:46,229 Well, you're 40 what now? - Three. 431 00:27:46,264 --> 00:27:46,903 43. 432 00:27:46,904 --> 00:27:49,066 Yeah, my competitive days are pretty much over now. 433 00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:52,069 It's just between age being a factor and then, 434 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:53,970 you know, the transgender stuff. 435 00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:55,872 Can't figure-- - That's my hope, 436 00:27:55,907 --> 00:27:58,108 you change your mind about it before it's too late. 437 00:27:58,143 --> 00:28:00,110 You know, It's not a matter of changing the minds, you know. 438 00:28:00,145 --> 00:28:01,478 You can't change your way. 439 00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:04,281 You'll wind up like Bruce Jenner... 440 00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:05,683 with severe depression. 441 00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:08,151 Don't believe everything... - That happens a lot. 442 00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:10,220 Oh, sure it does. It's not an easy life. 443 00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:12,889 You know, it's changing and... - Well, you better be sure. 444 00:28:12,924 --> 00:28:15,392 That's all I got to say 'cause you can't go back. 445 00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:19,963 And if you show up here with your long hair and boobs, I'm going the other way. 446 00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:21,498 Oh, really? - Yeah. 447 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:23,900 Yeah? What if it does happen? 448 00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:25,436 Better not. - Yeah. 449 00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:32,710 You want to see me freak? I've seen one picture, got freaked on that. 450 00:28:34,813 --> 00:28:36,346 Whatever you call yourself. 451 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,393 This is, uhm, where I grew up at. 452 00:28:52,898 --> 00:28:55,065 Oh, yeah, the secret basement back here. 453 00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:59,035 You'd flip up a door and there was a ladder down into it 454 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,439 and for a while, it was my dad's pot-growing house. 455 00:29:06,211 --> 00:29:08,979 We weren't allowed down there. We were told there was dangerous chemicals. 456 00:29:09,014 --> 00:29:10,914 We just didn't know they were THC. 457 00:29:13,985 --> 00:29:16,086 This big oak back here, I built a tree fort in. 458 00:29:16,121 --> 00:29:18,021 Some of the boards are still hanging in the tree. 459 00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:24,361 Down here, there's a big sand hill. 460 00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:26,096 I used to sprint up and down this. 461 00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:27,964 With a... I used to carry a big log on my back, 462 00:29:27,999 --> 00:29:29,366 and I'd run up and down this hill. 463 00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:37,908 This is where we came to fish in the spring and in the fall 464 00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:41,578 and I learned how to swim in the river and almost died in the river. 465 00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,446 I almost drowned there when I was eight. 466 00:29:43,481 --> 00:29:45,949 Fell into a drop-off and with the current, 467 00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:49,386 I remember falling through the water and seeing the sunlight disappear. 468 00:29:49,421 --> 00:29:52,189 Seeing everything turn green and then seeing everything turn black. 469 00:29:59,931 --> 00:30:01,965 There are times when I wanted to get away and 470 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,301 I wanted quiet and peace, this is where I'd come. 471 00:30:04,336 --> 00:30:07,971 I would just sit there on the bank and look into the water. 472 00:30:15,413 --> 00:30:18,081 Yeah, it's crazy actually, how much this looks exactly the same. 473 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:26,890 These are my fishing stuff from the spring. 474 00:30:44,442 --> 00:30:47,511 Hey! - Hey you. Oh, my God. 475 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,146 It's so good to see you. - How are you? 476 00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:52,115 Oh, my God, it's so awesome to see you guys. 477 00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:54,050 I can't believe it. It's been a couple of years, right? 478 00:30:54,085 --> 00:30:56,052 Two years. - Since Vegas, right? 479 00:30:56,087 --> 00:30:57,621 Yes, two years since Vegas. 480 00:30:57,656 --> 00:31:00,423 Crazy. Look a little different. 481 00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:01,591 You look good. - I love it. 482 00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:03,293 Oh, thanks. 483 00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:05,996 I'm still fairly muscular. Like, my God. 484 00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:09,266 Yah, a tiny bit. - I still see you very feminine. 485 00:31:09,301 --> 00:31:11,468 Well, thank you. I'm working on it, I'm trying. 486 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:14,104 Still it's killing me, I really want to get my waist 487 00:31:14,139 --> 00:31:15,939 really small and I'm having a hell of a time. 488 00:31:15,974 --> 00:31:20,076 Estrogen and that goes on so easy. It's like, argh! 489 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,949 Cheers. It's lovely, lovely to see you. - Thank you. Yes. 490 00:31:25,984 --> 00:31:29,519 I have a billion questions, but I've none at the same time. You know what I mean? 491 00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:34,557 I still... I still would like to have a little facial surgery done, but I'm not... 492 00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:37,261 Like, I'm kind of hesitant to do it because... 493 00:31:38,229 --> 00:31:42,065 I like how I look now, uhm, but I would still like to look more feminine. 494 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:45,035 'Cause, like, I feel like with makeup and stuff I look okay, 495 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:49,472 but without any makeup or anything, I think I still look very masculine, so... 496 00:31:49,507 --> 00:31:52,309 Just being smaller all together has made a difference and 497 00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:56,346 then just the estrogen and not tons of testosterone, and... 498 00:31:56,381 --> 00:31:59,082 Do you find you need to see someone to kind of guide you? 499 00:31:59,117 --> 00:32:00,984 Like would you see a counselor or anybody? 500 00:32:01,019 --> 00:32:02,252 I did a lot of therapy stuff when I was first 501 00:32:02,287 --> 00:32:03,386 dealing with everything. 502 00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:05,255 For me, it was really no... 503 00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:06,957 more helpful than just talking to one of my friends. 504 00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:08,591 Just someone I could bounce stuff off of. 505 00:32:08,626 --> 00:32:11,528 I don't know, like... My sexual, I'm still... 506 00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:13,964 It's difficult because I'm still primarily 507 00:32:13,999 --> 00:32:16,466 attracted to women, always have been, still am. 508 00:32:16,501 --> 00:32:18,668 It's just once you get to the bedroom then it's like, 509 00:32:18,703 --> 00:32:22,105 "Okay, how do things work now?" That's the tricky part. 510 00:32:23,408 --> 00:32:25,742 OK, so, the two options for tonight... 511 00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:28,578 This one actually, for whatever reason, 512 00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:30,613 my body looks more feminine in this one. 513 00:32:30,648 --> 00:32:32,415 It's supposed to throw the waist shaper thing on. 514 00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:33,650 I could throw the top on right here and then 515 00:32:33,685 --> 00:32:34,651 I'll change the pants. 516 00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:36,019 OK, sorry I got to throw 517 00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:37,153 some money at you, one sec. 518 00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,590 I'm sorry to disappoint you. - I don't have no $5 bills. 519 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:43,460 I'm fatter and smaller than I used to be, so... 520 00:32:46,331 --> 00:32:48,631 Alright, the favorite shirt. 521 00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,500 Yeah. Here we go. 522 00:32:50,535 --> 00:32:52,035 It's been pre-selected. 523 00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:56,172 Yeah, like I said, like I love this shirt. I absolutely love it. 524 00:32:56,207 --> 00:32:58,708 I love the design, I think it's really cool and everything, but... 525 00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:00,550 I don't think it makes you look wider or bigger. 526 00:33:00,551 --> 00:33:02,245 You don't think so? - No. 527 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Woo-hoo! 528 00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:05,348 Like the white? - OK, the ass. 529 00:33:05,383 --> 00:33:07,684 It's not bad. It's not bad at all. 530 00:33:07,719 --> 00:33:09,619 What are you talking about? - Seriously? 531 00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:10,720 They're shaped. 532 00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:14,658 I do have a big butt, everybody said that. 533 00:33:19,731 --> 00:33:22,065 Ugh, I don't know if I'm up to 170s. 534 00:33:24,702 --> 00:33:27,004 Maybe drop her down to 150s. 535 00:33:28,139 --> 00:33:29,573 I'll take those for a ride. 536 00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:33,710 Fucking 150s. 537 00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:41,584 Let's go. 538 00:33:41,619 --> 00:33:42,719 Come on, let's go. 539 00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:44,621 Let's go! 540 00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:45,688 Good, come on. 541 00:33:45,723 --> 00:33:46,723 Push, push! 542 00:33:48,226 --> 00:33:49,259 Nice job. 543 00:33:51,129 --> 00:33:52,662 Come on Drew, let's go. 544 00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:53,696 Easy weight for you, buddy. 545 00:33:53,731 --> 00:33:55,732 Let's go. 546 00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:58,168 Come on, Drew, let's go. Let's go, Drew. 547 00:33:58,203 --> 00:33:59,235 Get out to this shit. - Come on! 548 00:33:59,270 --> 00:34:00,370 Alright, Drew, let's go. 549 00:34:00,405 --> 00:34:01,337 Come on, sit nice and tight. 550 00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:02,372 Don't be a pussy. 551 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:06,576 Get up, up, up. - Easy. 552 00:34:06,611 --> 00:34:07,811 Let's go. 553 00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:12,715 Fucking pussy weight. 554 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:13,850 Let's go, bitch. 555 00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:17,587 Let's go, man, come on. 556 00:34:19,791 --> 00:34:25,162 Good. Come on, Matt. Let's go, let's go. Push! Good job. 557 00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:29,466 I'll be damned. - Good job. 558 00:34:29,501 --> 00:34:32,102 It's not bad for being a weak little bitch. 559 00:34:33,171 --> 00:34:37,640 This shit right here is why I can't give up my guy side. You know, it's... 560 00:34:37,675 --> 00:34:39,810 Loving this stuff and hanging out with these guys. 561 00:34:41,212 --> 00:34:43,680 You know, this is the kind of shit that I still live for too, you know. 562 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:47,550 So, it makes it... It makes it hard, but... 563 00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:51,754 These guys have seen me go back and forth, probably more times than they can count. 564 00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:54,757 I think there'll always be too much Matt for Janae to be a... 565 00:34:54,792 --> 00:34:58,628 And being a woman. If you want to say a stereotype woman. 566 00:34:58,663 --> 00:35:01,498 The... the 120 pounds. 567 00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:03,299 That'll never happen. That... That... 568 00:35:03,334 --> 00:35:05,368 Not because, to be honest-- - He couldn't do it. 569 00:35:05,403 --> 00:35:08,238 He couldn't do it because this guy, his fuck-- his mentality, 570 00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:10,840 he can do whatever he wants to do, but he wouldn't be happy. 571 00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:14,777 I don't think he can do it. I don't think you can go to 200 again. 572 00:35:14,812 --> 00:35:18,181 I think you're probably right. - That's what I'm trying to say so... 573 00:35:18,216 --> 00:35:21,451 Whether it's Janae or Matt, fitness is number one. 574 00:35:22,387 --> 00:35:24,787 Always gonna be number one in the family. 575 00:35:24,822 --> 00:35:29,359 But fitness, he'll never allow himself to get that small again. 576 00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:32,695 I was like, "Fuck that. I won't be 275 again." 577 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:36,566 But these guys are, you know, my very best friends and it is, 578 00:35:36,601 --> 00:35:39,469 it's like brothers. I mean, I count on these guys for anything, and... 579 00:35:41,439 --> 00:35:42,439 Fuck, I get choked up. 580 00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,545 I count on these guys for anything, and... 581 00:35:53,918 --> 00:35:55,252 The way it should be. 582 00:35:57,789 --> 00:36:03,293 It doesn't matter, I mean, it doesn't matter if I'm... Even with the transition stuff. 583 00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:05,495 It's just, you know... Yeah. 584 00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:07,664 You know, they are, they're like brothers, really. 585 00:36:36,661 --> 00:36:38,328 Right now, there's just this feeling 586 00:36:38,363 --> 00:36:40,764 of being pulled between two worlds and 587 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:46,769 this, you know, complete frustration and how am I 588 00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:50,273 ever gonna find peace and balance, and... 589 00:36:50,308 --> 00:36:52,976 And at this point, I really think the honest answer is, I won't. 590 00:37:46,798 --> 00:37:49,732 Being told that my hair loss is beyond the point 591 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,435 where I can actually grow it out, that was devastating 592 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:56,673 to hear because putting a wig on for me feels like costume, 593 00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:59,976 it feels like dress up, it feels like pretending. 594 00:38:03,581 --> 00:38:06,416 This conference sounds like it's gonna be... 595 00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:08,518 It's a little bit of a cluster. 596 00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:10,653 Fortunately, I've been doing this stuff for years. 597 00:38:10,688 --> 00:38:14,791 I've run meets, spotted, loaded, judged. 598 00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:16,759 I've done pretty much everything you can do 599 00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:18,995 with all the powerlifting stuff for a long time. 600 00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,832 I don't think anybody there really has any experience with it. 601 00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,834 They didn't really know what they're getting into. 602 00:38:24,869 --> 00:38:26,569 Fortunately, there's not a ton of competitors, 603 00:38:26,604 --> 00:38:28,871 so we should pull it off okay. 604 00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:37,413 This event is specifically for transgender competitors. 605 00:38:37,448 --> 00:38:40,650 I'll be kind of, you know, basically helping them run the competition, 606 00:38:40,685 --> 00:38:45,555 judge, and probably be a Jill of all trades tomorrow, so... 607 00:38:58,503 --> 00:38:59,736 Alright. Ready, guys? 608 00:39:01,706 --> 00:39:03,573 That crease has to break the top of the knee 609 00:39:03,608 --> 00:39:06,376 and that constitutes being low enough and a good lift. 610 00:39:06,411 --> 00:39:08,945 So if you come out of the hole and maybe come up a little bit, maybe starting 611 00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:10,847 to lose your balance, go down a little and start to come back up. 612 00:39:10,882 --> 00:39:12,482 I'm just gonna have the spotters take it 613 00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:14,384 because the lifts are already no good. 614 00:39:14,419 --> 00:39:16,553 Any questions at all from anyone before we get started? 615 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,789 Alright. Good luck to everybody. 616 00:39:19,824 --> 00:39:21,457 Alright. 617 00:39:21,492 --> 00:39:22,425 Squat. 618 00:39:23,628 --> 00:39:25,762 Up, up, up. Rack. 619 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,902 All right. - The next lifter is Ryan Bird, 285. 620 00:39:32,937 --> 00:39:36,038 285, that's gonna be a 25 and a 5 on each side. 621 00:39:36,073 --> 00:39:38,408 25 and a 5. 622 00:39:38,443 --> 00:39:40,610 Squat. - Ease out, ease out, ease out. 623 00:39:40,645 --> 00:39:43,079 Up, up, up. - Fight it, fight it, fight it. 624 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:45,615 Take it, take it, take it. 625 00:39:46,984 --> 00:39:48,551 Ouch! - Close. Good try. 626 00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:55,825 All right. Good job on the squats, everyone. That's a great lift. 627 00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:56,926 That was awesome. 628 00:39:58,796 --> 00:39:59,729 Thanks. 629 00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:03,099 I have never seen a transwoman nearly 630 00:40:03,134 --> 00:40:04,867 as built as you and I think it's incredible. 631 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:07,003 Like I was mesmerized by you. 632 00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:08,805 Oh, thank you, that's very flattering. 633 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,606 Are you going to Transformers tomorrow? 634 00:40:10,641 --> 00:40:12,442 I didn't know there was one. See, I didn't know 635 00:40:12,477 --> 00:40:14,544 about like all that stuff, and... 636 00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:17,980 If you don't mind, how long have you started transitioning? 637 00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:19,516 That's a tough question. 638 00:40:20,852 --> 00:40:24,086 I've started this transition like eight times the last 10 years, 639 00:40:24,121 --> 00:40:26,456 but what it is, there's parts about my male personality, 640 00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:28,825 my male side that I'm not sure I want to completely give up. 641 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:31,461 There's definitely aspects of that personality. 642 00:40:31,496 --> 00:40:35,531 I actually felt like I lost some of that and 643 00:40:35,566 --> 00:40:37,700 I've done a lot of soul searching since my divorce. 644 00:40:37,735 --> 00:40:39,802 I've tried to recover some of that, and I do feel that 645 00:40:39,837 --> 00:40:41,904 you can because I feel like I have come 646 00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:44,474 so far back to where... 647 00:40:44,509 --> 00:40:49,512 It's almost like I took who I used to be and who I kept trying to become. 648 00:40:49,547 --> 00:40:51,548 It's a lot of work and a l... 649 00:40:53,251 --> 00:40:55,118 Phew! Most of the time, you know? - Yeah. Sure. 650 00:41:00,525 --> 00:41:01,724 You're a transwoman? 651 00:41:04,061 --> 00:41:05,995 Is this your first parade? - Yes. 652 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:07,263 Mine too, actually. - Is it? 653 00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:09,031 Yes. - Alright. 654 00:41:09,066 --> 00:41:10,066 So, we're both first-timers. 655 00:41:10,101 --> 00:41:11,200 Yes. 656 00:41:11,235 --> 00:41:13,135 We going in San Diego last week, 657 00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:15,171 they stopped the whole intersection. 658 00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:17,540 Oh, my gosh, how many people were in that? 659 00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:19,242 It's about 300. - Wow. 660 00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:21,210 It's a dub thing that we did. 661 00:41:21,245 --> 00:41:23,179 Any excuse to go to San Diego, you know. 662 00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:24,947 You always got a place now. 663 00:41:24,982 --> 00:41:26,015 I definitely might take you up on that. 664 00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:27,116 Seriously. 665 00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:30,987 And the same thing, if you're ever like seriously, well, I don't know 666 00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:32,154 why you would want to come to Michigan, but 667 00:41:32,189 --> 00:41:33,156 if you ever do... 668 00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:38,127 Yes, here we go. Oh, look, jeez. 669 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:43,032 For all your sins... 670 00:41:43,067 --> 00:41:45,668 And nothing will save you! 671 00:41:45,703 --> 00:41:48,705 Oh, you have corrupted your souls! 672 00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:02,618 Hypocrite! 673 00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:14,297 Sad. 674 00:42:32,917 --> 00:42:34,284 Ready to pump some kilos. 675 00:42:35,252 --> 00:42:36,185 Come on, Jessica. 676 00:42:44,195 --> 00:42:47,096 Yes, beautiful. 677 00:42:47,131 --> 00:42:48,698 This is good. 678 00:42:50,935 --> 00:42:52,702 Good job then, guys. - It's a nice pull. 679 00:42:52,737 --> 00:42:54,370 Fantastic. 680 00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:56,772 Any big names competing today or...? - Not today. 681 00:42:56,807 --> 00:42:58,074 No, like you have a local meet? - Yes. 682 00:42:58,109 --> 00:42:59,943 Yeah, it's like I figured. 683 00:43:03,948 --> 00:43:06,315 A huge fan, by the way, man. - Oh, thanks, man. Appreciate it. 684 00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:08,351 Awesome. You look awesome. 685 00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:10,620 Thanks, man. I appreciate it. 686 00:43:10,655 --> 00:43:12,254 Unbelievable what you're doing. 687 00:43:12,289 --> 00:43:14,190 Do you still compete, though? 688 00:43:14,225 --> 00:43:16,659 No, I mean, I'm still training and everything, like... 689 00:43:16,694 --> 00:43:19,729 I tried walking away from it, realized this is too much of who I am. 690 00:43:19,764 --> 00:43:23,833 No, I can't do it, man, never. - Will you compete as a woman? 691 00:43:23,868 --> 00:43:27,670 Ah, you know, it's a big controversy right now, and uhm... 692 00:43:27,705 --> 00:43:31,007 Especially for a guy like you, a guy I look up to. 693 00:43:31,042 --> 00:43:33,943 You were the guy that I was like fucking mad rock and stuff. 694 00:43:33,978 --> 00:43:35,978 I hate to ask. Can I take a picture with you? 695 00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:37,013 No, of course. 696 00:43:37,048 --> 00:43:38,314 I never ever do this. 697 00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:40,183 No, no, I'm totally cool. 698 00:43:45,322 --> 00:43:46,956 Thank again, man. Nice meeting you. 699 00:43:46,991 --> 00:43:48,224 Absolutely. - Thanks. 700 00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:24,060 Being always, you know, drawn to the strength world and muscle and all that, 701 00:44:24,095 --> 00:44:28,031 we're very conscious of your body and how people perceive you. 702 00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:36,439 Most of us are very insecure about how we look. 703 00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:44,714 Girls that, you know, by most standards, would be considered the 704 00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:48,050 most fit and most attractive among all the women in the world 705 00:44:48,085 --> 00:44:51,353 you know, have very poor self-esteem and aren't happy with 706 00:44:51,388 --> 00:44:54,123 their bodies at all, and the same thing with the men. 707 00:45:13,043 --> 00:45:16,045 This is only five pounds more than you did. You did the last one easy. 708 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,880 I'm telling you, you got to get psyched up. 709 00:45:17,915 --> 00:45:19,782 Come on here, close your eyes. 710 00:45:19,817 --> 00:45:21,083 Ready? Come on. 711 00:45:21,118 --> 00:45:24,253 Ready? Come on, come on. 712 00:45:24,288 --> 00:45:26,856 That is slightly more. - Yes, it does. 713 00:45:26,891 --> 00:45:28,524 Come on, get angry. Come on. 714 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:32,394 Pretend Garret just turned off your dark soul. 715 00:45:32,429 --> 00:45:35,998 Down up, let's go. 716 00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:37,834 Go. Get it. Oh... 717 00:45:38,536 --> 00:45:41,137 That's close. I almost got it that time. 718 00:45:41,172 --> 00:45:42,972 Totally, you should have went for the slab. 719 00:45:43,007 --> 00:45:44,907 You would have got it with the slab. 720 00:45:44,942 --> 00:45:46,976 Garret, do you want to squat me on this one? - Yes. 721 00:45:51,048 --> 00:45:52,081 Motherfucker. 722 00:46:05,563 --> 00:46:09,365 One... two... three. 723 00:46:17,341 --> 00:46:19,441 Heck, I might have done more than that. - Yeah, it was easy. 724 00:46:19,476 --> 00:46:20,777 Damn! 725 00:46:21,913 --> 00:46:24,847 That makes you want to gain more weight. 726 00:46:24,882 --> 00:46:25,716 I'm taking the other one. 727 00:46:25,916 --> 00:46:27,483 It's hard because I'm training with the guys, 728 00:46:27,518 --> 00:46:30,319 then trying to do a girl thing, but... 729 00:46:30,354 --> 00:46:32,087 There's no other women in the world walking around 730 00:46:32,122 --> 00:46:35,391 with 240 pounds of muscle, I mean, 245 or whatever. 731 00:46:35,426 --> 00:46:38,093 And I get that, but... 732 00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:41,363 At least for now, I can cope with being 733 00:46:41,398 --> 00:46:45,100 a big muscular woman a lot better than I can cope with 734 00:46:45,135 --> 00:46:46,902 being a small weak guy. 735 00:46:46,937 --> 00:46:49,605 If I walk into, you know, a place of business 736 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,975 as a 250-pound woman, yeah, everyone is gonna look. 737 00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:56,111 People are gonna treat me awkward. It's gonna make situations awkward. 738 00:46:56,146 --> 00:46:57,913 I'm not gonna get treated as well, 739 00:46:57,948 --> 00:47:00,216 but that's part of the sacrifice, 740 00:47:00,251 --> 00:47:03,586 part of the things I have to accept to be myself. 741 00:47:10,060 --> 00:47:12,194 All right, ready. - You big man. 742 00:47:12,229 --> 00:47:13,462 Let's go for break. 743 00:47:17,968 --> 00:47:20,469 Maxx, let me go, I haven't gone yet. - Woo-hoo. 744 00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:22,271 Isn't it fun? 745 00:47:22,306 --> 00:47:24,173 Every time we canoe, he's like this. 746 00:47:24,208 --> 00:47:25,408 He likes to play. 747 00:47:31,215 --> 00:47:32,481 I wasn't ready to go. 748 00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:42,024 He's never, you know... He's always been in any kind of sport, 749 00:47:42,059 --> 00:47:47,229 always playing with the big boys, you know, play ball. 750 00:47:47,264 --> 00:47:49,431 You know, everything they've done when they were kids, 751 00:47:49,466 --> 00:47:51,233 everything I've ever done with them, you know, 752 00:47:51,268 --> 00:47:53,269 it's always been the macho shit, you know. 753 00:47:55,406 --> 00:47:56,973 It's a total shock to me. 754 00:47:57,942 --> 00:48:00,209 I still don't believe it. 755 00:48:00,244 --> 00:48:03,212 I don't really agree with it, but... 756 00:48:03,247 --> 00:48:05,281 It's what he wants to do, I can't talk him out of it. 757 00:48:07,418 --> 00:48:12,254 That's his decision, well, not much I can do about it. 758 00:48:12,289 --> 00:48:15,224 I don't, like I said, I don't think it's right. 759 00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:20,630 He's not gonna listen to me. 760 00:48:37,314 --> 00:48:43,719 # You all loved him once and not without cause # 761 00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:50,025 # He fetch you through the winter, he led you through the fog # 762 00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:55,564 # You hid behind his body to be sheltered from the mob # 763 00:48:57,401 --> 00:49:03,706 # You all loved him once and not without cause # 764 00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:11,147 # You all loved him once when his glory was unmatched # 765 00:49:12,216 --> 00:49:18,354 # You signal when to celebrate was the bugle of his laugh, # 766 00:49:18,389 --> 00:49:24,360 # Oh, when it came time to stand with him You scattered with the rats # 767 00:49:26,263 --> 00:49:32,535 # You all loved him once that time has passed # 768 00:49:45,682 --> 00:49:52,221 # You all loved him once, not without cause # 769 00:49:52,256 --> 00:49:58,127 # You all loved him once, now he is gone # 770 00:50:09,139 --> 00:50:11,273 Hi. - Hey, how are you? 771 00:50:11,308 --> 00:50:13,108 Good, how are you? - Good, good. 772 00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:15,611 Alright. - I just want to get a little more. 773 00:50:15,646 --> 00:50:18,313 OK. - It went down but from going too long, 774 00:50:18,348 --> 00:50:19,747 like, when it fully came back, 775 00:50:19,947 --> 00:50:22,418 we're definitely gonna need more to get it back down. 776 00:50:22,453 --> 00:50:23,907 OK, well, it looks good, but I see what you're saying. 777 00:50:24,107 --> 00:50:24,820 It's nice and balanced. 778 00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:27,222 It's nice and even, but there is just still, 779 00:50:27,257 --> 00:50:31,160 like if I clench, there's still... Still a lot of muscle there. 780 00:50:31,195 --> 00:50:32,761 Alright, well, let's do that. 781 00:50:32,796 --> 00:50:33,763 Alright, awesome. 782 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,533 Do it again. 783 00:51:06,830 --> 00:51:09,164 Come on, let's go. Finish it. 784 00:51:16,607 --> 00:51:17,639 Come on, lightweight. 785 00:51:28,285 --> 00:51:30,285 One extra set and I'm already sweating. 786 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,355 That seemed way too hard for you, so I'm gonna go 90s and down. 787 00:51:34,625 --> 00:51:39,495 Right now, I walk into a gym as Kroc and everyone wants to be my friend, 788 00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:42,464 you know, and then I walk around like this and it's stares, and... 789 00:51:42,499 --> 00:51:46,268 Because as Kroc, the stares were a positive to you. 790 00:51:46,303 --> 00:51:49,404 Yeah, it's like... - It's more... now you're more worried 791 00:51:49,439 --> 00:51:53,475 about passing as just a woman necessarily. 792 00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:56,345 But, you know, to be honest, you probably make other 793 00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:59,815 people feel inferior, not in any other 794 00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:01,917 aspect except for the actual size and 795 00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:04,586 strength, regardless of you being a woman. 796 00:52:04,621 --> 00:52:07,156 Yeah, I mean, that could be true too. I'm sure there's guys, you know, 797 00:52:07,191 --> 00:52:10,359 Guys ted to everybody sizes themselves up against other people. 798 00:52:10,394 --> 00:52:12,594 It's really hard to size themselves up against a woman. 799 00:52:21,405 --> 00:52:23,438 Here's the thing, the day I can really 800 00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:26,208 look in the mirror and all I see is Janae 801 00:52:26,243 --> 00:52:28,277 and there is nothing else, is probably going 802 00:52:28,312 --> 00:52:29,578 to be the most amazing day of my life. 803 00:52:29,613 --> 00:52:32,948 I know that, but it's just... 804 00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:35,551 I want my boys to be able to be proud of me. 805 00:52:35,586 --> 00:52:38,487 And I might get choked up if I start talking about this. 806 00:52:40,457 --> 00:52:43,825 The boys are your... I don't want to call it an excuse because 807 00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:46,461 it's not an excuse, it's not fair to just calling it an excuse 808 00:52:46,496 --> 00:52:48,664 because that's something that you're really going to have to deal with 809 00:52:48,699 --> 00:52:50,265 and I understand the worry for that, 810 00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:53,669 but it is slowing you down and so... 811 00:52:53,704 --> 00:52:56,471 Let's say, you wait five years, and then five years 812 00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:59,441 comes running out, "Oh, well, you know, this just isn't 813 00:52:59,476 --> 00:53:01,944 the right time," push it back, and before you know it, 814 00:53:01,979 --> 00:53:04,446 you're gonna be, you know, 60 years old and 815 00:53:04,481 --> 00:53:07,783 there's not... At that point, what are you gonna do? But I think if 816 00:53:07,818 --> 00:53:10,919 you can look at yourself in the mirror right now and say 817 00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:12,988 that powerlifting is the only thing that makes you special 818 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,891 or different, there's something seriously wrong with your head. 819 00:53:17,361 --> 00:53:19,761 So, I hate that you think that way. 820 00:53:19,796 --> 00:53:21,430 And I know you think that way and that's why 821 00:53:21,465 --> 00:53:24,433 it's easy to retreat to it, because you know 822 00:53:24,468 --> 00:53:25,968 that if all else fails, you're Matt Kroc. 823 00:53:26,003 --> 00:53:26,969 Yeah. 824 00:55:04,868 --> 00:55:09,771 I mean, I think like... You know, doing the two-gender thing makes 825 00:55:09,806 --> 00:55:12,808 life really difficult bouncing back and forth. 826 00:55:12,843 --> 00:55:16,111 I mean, I know I'm not gonna have peace with this until I fully transition. 827 00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:20,082 And, you know, now, I've been living as a woman every day for a while, 828 00:55:20,117 --> 00:55:24,820 and, uhm, even being as big as I am, it just, you know, it is what it is. 829 00:55:30,927 --> 00:55:32,561 One of the big reasons for the trip is 830 00:55:32,596 --> 00:55:34,863 the consults for the facial surgery, but 831 00:55:34,898 --> 00:55:36,565 at the same time, you know, connecting with 832 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,966 a bunch of my friends that are out here. 833 00:55:39,736 --> 00:55:42,571 It's always nice to meet people and share experiences, 834 00:55:42,606 --> 00:55:45,474 especially people that, you know, have so much struggles. 835 00:55:59,189 --> 00:56:01,123 Hey. - I love you. 836 00:56:01,158 --> 00:56:02,791 It's good to see you. 837 00:56:06,196 --> 00:56:08,530 This is gonna be a lot of fun. - Yeah. 838 00:56:08,565 --> 00:56:09,531 Fuck. 839 00:56:09,566 --> 00:56:10,866 Let's go. Let's go. 840 00:56:11,835 --> 00:56:12,901 Fuck! 841 00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:17,939 Fuck! - Come on. Down up. 842 00:56:17,974 --> 00:56:19,775 There you go. - Down up. Big air. 843 00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:22,411 There you go. Come on, come on! - Tight, tight, tight. 844 00:56:24,614 --> 00:56:27,182 Get up. Come on. Get up. Yes, there it is. 845 00:56:27,217 --> 00:56:29,618 Nice job, and you're in. 846 00:56:32,589 --> 00:56:33,856 Come on, fucker. 847 00:56:35,459 --> 00:56:37,493 Get that shit tight and let's go. 848 00:56:38,862 --> 00:56:40,429 Don't be a fucking bitch. 849 00:56:42,666 --> 00:56:45,467 Come on. Wake the fuck up. Let's go. 850 00:56:47,537 --> 00:56:48,937 There you go. - Get fucking mad. 851 00:56:48,972 --> 00:56:51,707 I want to see this weight move. Let's go. 852 00:56:52,809 --> 00:56:54,877 Lightweight, come on. - Stand up now, let's go. 853 00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,847 Straight pickup. All legs on that pickup. 854 00:56:58,882 --> 00:57:00,882 Good. Big air. 855 00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:03,585 Lock in your fucking air. - Let's go. 856 00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:05,020 Look up. Look up. - Come on. 857 00:57:05,055 --> 00:57:05,987 Fuck, yeah. 858 00:57:06,022 --> 00:57:07,589 Hell fucking yeah. 859 00:57:08,658 --> 00:57:10,459 Woo-hoo! - Atta, girl. 860 00:57:10,494 --> 00:57:12,661 Fuck yeah! 861 00:57:12,696 --> 00:57:14,062 It fucking feels good, don't it? 862 00:57:15,065 --> 00:57:16,865 Yeah, first time in a while. 863 00:57:22,873 --> 00:57:25,574 Hey, good to see you. Glad you made it. 864 00:57:25,609 --> 00:57:29,578 There was the rain. Out of all the times of the year you come, it always has to rain. 865 00:57:29,613 --> 00:57:32,147 I know, what's up with that? - Hey, welcome. Nice to meet you. 866 00:57:32,182 --> 00:57:32,854 Nice to meet you too. 867 00:57:33,054 --> 00:57:34,749 Oh, you guys haven't actually met before, have you? 868 00:57:34,784 --> 00:57:35,851 No. - No. 869 00:57:35,886 --> 00:57:37,752 Alright, awesome, awesome. 870 00:57:37,787 --> 00:57:40,055 Nice even grip, butt down, head up. 871 00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:41,223 There you go. Now, explode up. 872 00:57:42,592 --> 00:57:44,126 Good. Actually, let's do another one. 873 00:57:46,229 --> 00:57:47,496 Slack out, explode up. 874 00:57:47,531 --> 00:57:48,897 Perfect, good. 875 00:57:48,932 --> 00:57:49,998 One more. 876 00:57:51,935 --> 00:57:54,569 Now, head up, explode. 877 00:57:54,604 --> 00:57:55,537 Good job. 878 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,041 Look at that, tripled it. No problem. 879 00:58:05,649 --> 00:58:09,017 A lot of the fears I had that were holding me back from transition 880 00:58:09,052 --> 00:58:12,621 weren't legitimate fears, and I've come to realize that. 881 00:58:12,656 --> 00:58:14,923 When I do, it's like when I was doing it, 882 00:58:14,958 --> 00:58:20,128 I was... I was scared that I was always gonna lose Paula. 883 00:58:20,163 --> 00:58:21,897 Right. - So, you know, like... 884 00:58:21,932 --> 00:58:23,632 That was a big part of me. 885 00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:25,700 Yeah, that identity, that part of you. 886 00:58:25,735 --> 00:58:27,302 Do you feel like you're gonna forget that? 887 00:58:27,337 --> 00:58:29,938 That's what I was afraid of, like.. 888 00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:32,240 and not so much, you know, quote-unquote, mad, but... 889 00:58:32,275 --> 00:58:37,145 Like, the powerlifter, the person that I built so much around, 890 00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:38,813 and the things I enjoy, the things I did, 891 00:58:38,848 --> 00:58:40,549 and the things I was successful with, 892 00:58:40,584 --> 00:58:42,617 I was afraid of losing that. But like today, 893 00:58:42,652 --> 00:58:44,886 like training, you know, with you and Gracie, 894 00:58:44,921 --> 00:58:46,755 I realize like, "No, I'm still gonna 895 00:58:46,790 --> 00:58:48,089 do all that stuff and that's still gonna be 896 00:58:48,124 --> 00:58:49,758 a big part of who I am." 897 00:58:49,793 --> 00:58:51,126 Uhm, you know, It might change somewhat. 898 00:58:55,632 --> 00:58:58,133 I'm at the point right now like I feel like 899 00:58:58,168 --> 00:59:01,069 I'm getting like that in-between stage, you know. 900 00:59:01,104 --> 00:59:02,871 You feel like me when I shave my face, I'm like, 901 00:59:02,906 --> 00:59:06,241 "Oh, God, I can still see female parts of you." 902 00:59:06,276 --> 00:59:08,910 That's why I don't like shaving my face because like even 903 00:59:08,945 --> 00:59:13,315 when I go to bed, I know, I see my scars and when I take a shower or... 904 00:59:13,350 --> 00:59:15,917 You know, even to the point like I still shave my body, 905 00:59:15,952 --> 00:59:20,121 like that brings back memories of being a female. 906 00:59:20,156 --> 00:59:21,420 Then I think, you know, 907 00:59:21,620 --> 00:59:25,193 I don't have lower surgeries, so I do get reminded, unfortunately. 908 00:59:25,228 --> 00:59:28,163 Yeah, I do the whole talk and look in the mirror like, 909 00:59:28,198 --> 00:59:30,065 "What's she gonna look like?" 910 00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:32,033 All the time, man. When I take a dildo and I'm like, 911 00:59:32,068 --> 00:59:34,069 "I wish I had this size." 912 00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:36,771 Or you know, if I did have an erect dick, 913 00:59:36,806 --> 00:59:39,307 is this what it would look like?" 914 00:59:39,342 --> 00:59:41,676 I get it, I get you. 915 00:59:53,890 --> 00:59:55,223 Pleasure meeting you. - Nice to meet you. 916 00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:56,925 How are you doing today? 917 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,159 I'm doing very well. How about you? 918 00:59:58,194 --> 00:59:59,795 Very good, thank you. 919 01:00:00,797 --> 01:00:03,198 So, last name is Kroczaleski. - Yes. 920 01:00:04,267 --> 01:00:06,101 May I refer to you as Janae. 921 01:00:06,136 --> 01:00:07,802 Yes, it's my legal name. 922 01:00:07,837 --> 01:00:10,672 Janae, 43 years old, pharmacist. 923 01:00:10,707 --> 01:00:12,173 Mhm. - Excellent. 924 01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:15,110 You've had a lot of repair work in your 925 01:00:15,145 --> 01:00:16,878 arms and tendons and... 926 01:00:16,913 --> 01:00:18,680 From competing, yes. 927 01:00:18,715 --> 01:00:20,348 Are you open to suggestions? 928 01:00:20,383 --> 01:00:24,786 Yes, open to anything you think would be beneficial. 929 01:00:24,821 --> 01:00:29,958 In general, you want the outer one-third of the brow to be at the peak, 930 01:00:29,993 --> 01:00:31,359 so it's right here. - OK, got you. 931 01:00:31,394 --> 01:00:33,228 Just a little bit. 932 01:00:33,263 --> 01:00:35,830 We don't want your brows up here, okay? 933 01:00:35,865 --> 01:00:37,432 Right, look surprised all the time. 934 01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:40,369 No surprise look, OK, I don't do that. 935 01:00:41,271 --> 01:00:45,407 So, we will reduce this, bring the lip up a little bit. 936 01:00:45,442 --> 01:00:48,076 Give it a little bit more fullness in 937 01:00:48,111 --> 01:00:51,346 a forward manner, and then do the genioplasty 938 01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:57,152 jaw reduction, and finally a neck lift, OK? 939 01:00:57,187 --> 01:00:59,387 So, would this make you happy if we do this? - Yes. 940 01:00:59,422 --> 01:01:00,922 That would make me very happy. - OK. 941 01:01:09,232 --> 01:01:10,932 Hey. - What's going on? 942 01:01:10,967 --> 01:01:12,901 Good to see you. - Yes, good to have you back. 943 01:01:12,936 --> 01:01:15,403 Hug, handshake, what we got going on here. - Both. 944 01:01:15,438 --> 01:01:16,337 Looking good. 945 01:01:16,372 --> 01:01:17,372 Trying, trying. 946 01:01:17,407 --> 01:01:18,940 Lots of work to do but... 947 01:01:18,975 --> 01:01:20,241 Getting there. 948 01:01:20,276 --> 01:01:21,810 Still got a lot of muscle on you. 949 01:01:21,845 --> 01:01:23,178 Looking a little bit different now. 950 01:01:23,213 --> 01:01:26,214 It's so weird to see facial hair, ugh. 951 01:01:26,249 --> 01:01:27,983 Like, yeah, it's uncomfortable. I wanted to... 952 01:01:29,252 --> 01:01:32,487 My mother in law, she's like, "This is my favorite one." 953 01:01:32,522 --> 01:01:37,158 And then I had you in the gym last year 954 01:01:37,193 --> 01:01:39,027 and she's like... 955 01:01:39,062 --> 01:01:40,929 "Is that the same guy that I said is 956 01:01:40,964 --> 01:01:42,997 my favorite one?" I said "Yeah." 957 01:01:43,032 --> 01:01:47,035 She's like, "Damn," so she say, "We lost a good one," she said. 958 01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:48,737 I appreciate that, you can tell her. - We lost a good one. 959 01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:52,140 Yeah, so I'm still in that process. 960 01:01:52,175 --> 01:01:54,476 You take like an estrogen supplement? 961 01:01:54,511 --> 01:01:56,712 Yes, estrogen basically. Estradiol. 962 01:01:58,114 --> 01:02:01,082 Are you still doing performance-enhancing drugs as well? 963 01:02:01,117 --> 01:02:05,520 No, like I stopped all the testosterone and all that stuff. And then... 964 01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:07,789 Because with steroid you fight each other. 965 01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:09,991 No, I'll never take testosterone again ever. 966 01:02:11,261 --> 01:02:15,063 And then the last time you were here too when I picked you up, 967 01:02:15,098 --> 01:02:18,967 I think I drove you to your hotel as Matt. 968 01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:21,136 Is Matt still around? 969 01:02:22,505 --> 01:02:26,074 No, Matt has seen his last days, you know. 970 01:02:30,847 --> 01:02:34,215 Hey, Garrett, can you bring me my purse, please? 971 01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:35,150 Yes. 972 01:02:35,185 --> 01:02:36,318 Thanks, man. 973 01:02:41,124 --> 01:02:42,423 Thank you. - What's up? 974 01:02:42,458 --> 01:02:44,126 I left my one eyeliner in there. 975 01:02:47,197 --> 01:02:49,230 What actually are you gonna do with your face? I don't know, really. 976 01:02:49,265 --> 01:02:51,065 You didn't tell us much about it. 977 01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:52,066 It's gonna be some nose or something? 978 01:02:52,101 --> 01:02:53,067 I don't really know. 979 01:02:53,102 --> 01:02:54,536 No, like everything. 980 01:02:54,571 --> 01:02:57,071 Like what? I don't get it exactly. 981 01:02:57,106 --> 01:03:00,208 Okay, so the big things like my jaw and forehead need to be done. 982 01:03:00,243 --> 01:03:02,410 And what they do-- - What are they gonna do to it? 983 01:03:02,445 --> 01:03:05,914 OK, so, like... With males, like you know, you have brow bossing 984 01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:08,283 in the ridge and the forehead tends to slant 985 01:03:08,318 --> 01:03:13,021 backwards and be flatter versus more convex and more vertical. 986 01:03:13,056 --> 01:03:14,989 And so basically, what they're gonna do is 987 01:03:15,024 --> 01:03:16,925 they're gonna smooth-- I don't have a lot of brow-bossing, 988 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,459 but they're going to smooth out this part. 989 01:03:18,494 --> 01:03:19,994 He's gonna cut a big chunk out 990 01:03:20,029 --> 01:03:21,262 of the center of my forehead, 991 01:03:21,297 --> 01:03:23,198 reshape it, and put it back in, 992 01:03:23,233 --> 01:03:25,333 and then my jaw actually. 993 01:03:25,368 --> 01:03:27,368 What's wrong with your jaw? You just don't like it? 994 01:03:27,403 --> 01:03:29,337 It's too square, too wide, too... 995 01:03:29,372 --> 01:03:32,574 It extends too far as well. - I have a square jaw actually. 996 01:03:32,609 --> 01:03:36,511 For guys, that's a good thing, you know, but, uh, typically. 997 01:03:36,546 --> 01:03:40,381 Yeah, I just feel like this one just really, it's kinda, it says me, you know. 998 01:03:40,416 --> 01:03:44,419 Fits my personality, the lifter, you know, the lifter chick. 999 01:03:44,454 --> 01:03:47,288 Athletic. - Yeah, it's kind of badass. You know. 1000 01:03:52,528 --> 01:03:54,529 Are you guys ready to go? - I'm ready. 1001 01:03:54,564 --> 01:03:56,164 I'll put on my little sweatshirt. 1002 01:04:04,073 --> 01:04:06,408 Dude, one of us is definitely gonna buy that. 1003 01:04:07,343 --> 01:04:08,643 Like Maxx. 1004 01:04:08,678 --> 01:04:10,311 It's a little frozen. 1005 01:04:10,346 --> 01:04:12,413 I'm gonna try to walk across. 1006 01:04:14,083 --> 01:04:16,384 Oh, double headshots. 1007 01:04:16,419 --> 01:04:18,286 Logan, frisbee. 1008 01:04:18,321 --> 01:04:20,388 See, right here, you can try to get across. 1009 01:04:20,423 --> 01:04:22,257 Maxx, go all the way up there. 1010 01:04:22,292 --> 01:04:24,226 I bet you it's solid, Maxx, try it. 1011 01:04:26,029 --> 01:04:28,296 Most moms would not let you play on the ice 1012 01:04:28,331 --> 01:04:30,498 and encourage you to jump that way. 1013 01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:33,935 Hey! 1014 01:04:33,970 --> 01:04:35,436 I have a feeling this is gonna break 1015 01:04:35,471 --> 01:04:37,338 right here. 1016 01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:38,907 Be ready to just stand on top. 1017 01:04:38,942 --> 01:04:40,208 I guess I'll just-- Oh, Jeez! 1018 01:04:42,578 --> 01:04:45,213 Garret fell. 1019 01:04:46,249 --> 01:04:47,515 I got it for you, mom. 1020 01:04:49,018 --> 01:04:51,319 Test it, Maxx. Test it a little. - I'm not gonna buy it. 1021 01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:53,521 I'm totally with you. 1022 01:04:53,556 --> 01:04:55,390 There he goes. - No. 1023 01:04:55,425 --> 01:04:56,124 Oh, come on. 1024 01:04:59,729 --> 01:05:01,630 Geez. No, I definitely won't. 1025 01:05:05,201 --> 01:05:07,001 Oh, close range. 1026 01:05:13,276 --> 01:05:15,310 You know, the bond I have with them is, 1027 01:05:15,345 --> 01:05:18,012 I mean, is the result of a lot of effort, a lot of time, 1028 01:05:18,047 --> 01:05:21,049 and... But it's something that was always 1029 01:05:21,084 --> 01:05:24,352 there from-- from the day they were born. 1030 01:05:29,425 --> 01:05:34,429 And, uhm, if I never transition to try to protect 1031 01:05:34,464 --> 01:05:37,298 them from it, what am I teaching them? That it's more 1032 01:05:37,333 --> 01:05:41,235 important to conform to what other people expect than to be 1033 01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:43,471 true to yourself? I think that's a horrible lesson. 1034 01:05:44,674 --> 01:05:47,575 Alright, everybody close together. Logan, your head should be over here. 1035 01:05:49,445 --> 01:05:51,980 This is gonna be a great picture. Alright, ready? 1036 01:05:52,015 --> 01:05:53,581 To try to be a positive role model 1037 01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:55,450 for them is hugely important to me. 1038 01:05:55,485 --> 01:05:57,151 It matters more than anything and 1039 01:05:57,186 --> 01:05:58,686 I just really hope I'm doing that. 1040 01:05:58,721 --> 01:06:01,957 One, two, three. 1041 01:06:20,443 --> 01:06:23,578 I really feel like this is the best surgeon in the world for this procedure. 1042 01:06:23,613 --> 01:06:28,683 This is the first thing I'm doing that is locking me into one gender. 1043 01:06:37,293 --> 01:06:41,162 The examination will start, so we will start the recording. 1044 01:06:41,197 --> 01:06:44,232 In normal voice, alright. 1045 01:06:44,267 --> 01:06:46,300 When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, 1046 01:06:46,335 --> 01:06:48,536 they act as a prism and form a rainbow. 1047 01:06:48,571 --> 01:06:51,673 The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. 1048 01:06:52,675 --> 01:06:54,376 Now, my training voice. 1049 01:06:57,346 --> 01:07:00,648 There is, according to legend, a boiling pot of gold at one end. 1050 01:07:00,683 --> 01:07:02,817 People look, but no one ever finds it. 1051 01:07:02,852 --> 01:07:05,286 When a man looks for something beyond his reach, his friends 1052 01:07:05,321 --> 01:07:08,156 say he's looking for the pot of gold-- 1053 01:07:08,191 --> 01:07:10,458 Chin up. Have your chin up. 1054 01:07:10,493 --> 01:07:13,728 Keep on breathing through your mouth and say haaa. 1055 01:07:13,763 --> 01:07:15,396 Haaa. 1056 01:07:15,431 --> 01:07:16,631 OK, OK. 1057 01:07:27,176 --> 01:07:29,210 Janae. 1058 01:07:29,245 --> 01:07:30,578 What seems to be the problem? 1059 01:07:30,613 --> 01:07:32,747 I'm transitioning from male to female 1060 01:07:32,782 --> 01:07:37,518 and voice is one of the biggest issues for me, and yeah, so... 1061 01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:41,389 Let me show you a surgical procedure, our surgical procedure. 1062 01:07:42,792 --> 01:07:47,862 We shorten these portions, so this is new vocal cord. 1063 01:07:47,897 --> 01:07:51,433 So we change your vocal cord more shorter, thinner and tighter. 1064 01:07:52,335 --> 01:07:55,470 Tomorrow morning we start the surgery maybe 9:00 a.m. 1065 01:07:55,505 --> 01:07:57,805 OK. - You should be here 8:00 a.m. 1066 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,174 8:00 a.m. okay. 1067 01:08:27,503 --> 01:08:29,537 These are life-saving procedures 1068 01:08:29,572 --> 01:08:32,140 and that's what people don't understand. 1069 01:08:32,175 --> 01:08:34,275 This is like a huge thing for me. 1070 01:08:39,448 --> 01:08:41,749 I look forward to a point when people understand, 1071 01:08:41,784 --> 01:08:44,252 when everyone understands and the whole 1072 01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:46,387 idea that people would have to live in 1073 01:08:46,422 --> 01:08:49,624 fear the way they do now would be absurd. 1074 01:08:51,661 --> 01:08:55,897 It's just-- I don't want anyone to have to go through what I've gone 1075 01:08:55,932 --> 01:08:59,167 through and struggle with this for so many years 1076 01:08:59,202 --> 01:09:02,537 to where you get to a point where people can just be themselves, you know, 1077 01:09:02,572 --> 01:09:06,574 no matter what it is, and no one will think anything of that. 1078 01:09:06,609 --> 01:09:08,709 The things I do and the way I live my life, 1079 01:09:08,744 --> 01:09:13,347 if that stops even one kid... 1080 01:09:13,382 --> 01:09:14,883 from committing suicide or... 1081 01:09:17,954 --> 01:09:22,790 You know, one family from disowning their child, then... 1082 01:09:24,260 --> 01:09:28,796 any sacrifices I have to make are well worth it, you know. 1083 01:09:52,688 --> 01:09:54,855 I'm just really looking forward to 1084 01:09:54,890 --> 01:09:58,659 not having to do the back and forth and just be able to focus 1085 01:09:58,694 --> 01:10:01,495 on moving forward, and just enjoying my life 1086 01:10:01,530 --> 01:10:03,531 and being comfortable in the skin I'm in. 1087 01:10:03,566 --> 01:10:06,367 It's just something I've never known. 1088 01:11:28,017 --> 01:11:30,518 Good morning everyone. 1089 01:11:30,553 --> 01:11:33,020 I know you guys have been waiting very patiently to 1090 01:11:33,055 --> 01:11:36,624 hear what my new voice sounds like, so here it is. 1091 01:11:36,659 --> 01:11:41,495 I've been talking for about a month now and after two months 1092 01:11:41,530 --> 01:11:44,432 of no talking which was brutal. 1093 01:11:44,467 --> 01:11:46,767 At first, it was a little hoarse and scratchy but 1094 01:11:46,802 --> 01:11:49,904 it's getting smoother and higher in pitch every day. 1095 01:11:49,939 --> 01:11:55,009 My surgeon said it will continue to increase in pitch for up to a year. 1096 01:11:55,044 --> 01:11:57,578 For where I'm at right now, I'm really happy with the 1097 01:11:57,613 --> 01:12:02,550 results and, uhm, excited about where I think it will end up at. 1098 01:12:02,585 --> 01:12:07,388 And uhm, I just wanted to say you know, thank all you guys that follow me 1099 01:12:07,423 --> 01:12:10,725 and support me, it really does mean a lot. 1100 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,596 And, uhm, I hope everyone's having a wonderful day and I'll talk to you all soon. 1101 01:12:15,631 --> 01:12:16,764 Thanks, bye. 1102 01:12:19,635 --> 01:12:21,769 Hoarse and scratchy but it's getting smoother 1103 01:12:21,804 --> 01:12:23,871 and higher in pitch every day. 1104 01:12:32,481 --> 01:12:34,148 With every surgical procedure that 1105 01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:36,617 I'm gonna need, it's gonna be about $100,000. 1106 01:12:36,652 --> 01:12:40,154 And this is money I've been saving for years, and trying to put aside, 1107 01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:44,692 and, you know, and still take care of all my other financial responsibilities. 1108 01:12:44,727 --> 01:12:47,561 I'm worried about losing my car, losing my house. 1109 01:12:47,596 --> 01:12:50,598 You know, how am I gonna take care of my boys? 1110 01:12:51,967 --> 01:12:54,001 But... 1111 01:12:56,505 --> 01:13:02,109 Yeah, you know, it's tough, and... and... 1112 01:13:02,144 --> 01:13:05,746 Then I'm also concerned that it's gonna be difficult finding another job. 1113 01:13:05,781 --> 01:13:12,019 You know, interviewing being openly transgender is really tough. 1114 01:13:25,935 --> 01:13:28,068 If I am still what everyone thought I was before, 1115 01:13:28,103 --> 01:13:31,972 if I was this 270-pound muscular white male, 1116 01:13:32,007 --> 01:13:33,741 these things would definitely not be 1117 01:13:33,776 --> 01:13:35,743 happening by any structure of the imagination. 1118 01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:52,193 I did everything I could and put it off for as long as possible. 1119 01:13:52,228 --> 01:13:54,829 This is never anything I wanted or asked for. 1120 01:14:03,105 --> 01:14:05,573 I've been through cancer, you know, I've been through the Marines, 1121 01:14:05,608 --> 01:14:07,575 I've grew up poor like... 1122 01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:09,643 I don't want it to sound like the worse, there's 1123 01:14:09,678 --> 01:14:11,612 people out there that have had a lot harder than me, 1124 01:14:11,647 --> 01:14:13,814 but this is way more difficult 1125 01:14:13,849 --> 01:14:16,050 than any of that stuff, way more difficult. 1126 01:14:22,892 --> 01:14:25,059 I had a good career, a beautiful wife, 1127 01:14:25,094 --> 01:14:26,961 you know, I was a champion athlete. 1128 01:14:26,996 --> 01:14:28,829 I was on the cover of magazines. 1129 01:14:28,864 --> 01:14:30,698 Yeah, I knew that there was a good chance 1130 01:14:30,733 --> 01:14:32,033 I'd be losing all that. 1131 01:14:33,336 --> 01:14:36,770 Hey. - All right, see you guys on the flip side. 1132 01:14:36,805 --> 01:14:38,105 Nighty night. 1133 01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:39,874 Here he comes. 1134 01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:47,915 What are you gonna do? You know, you can't go on hiding who you are. 1135 01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:52,520 You know there's gonna be sacrifices, 1136 01:14:52,555 --> 01:14:55,656 but there is really not a choice. 1137 01:16:19,742 --> 01:16:22,710 You know, for a lot of transgender people, you know, it does 1138 01:16:22,745 --> 01:16:24,879 end for the most part when they transition. 1139 01:16:26,348 --> 01:16:29,016 What people talk about like, looking back over their previous 1140 01:16:29,051 --> 01:16:31,786 life and it feels like an entirely different person. 1141 01:16:32,988 --> 01:16:35,389 Like a story they read and not something actually lived, 1142 01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:38,225 but for me, I don't think that story has an ending. 1143 01:16:42,264 --> 01:16:45,165 Make the best of a very complicated situation and 1144 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,202 be as happy as I can be, but there is no solution. 1145 01:16:48,237 --> 01:16:49,737 There's no answer. 95216

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