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[Steppin' into swing society
Playing]
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man: I think it's
terribly important that
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jazz is primarily dance music.
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So, you move
when you hear it,
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and it always moves
in a direction of elegance,
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which is the most
civilized thing that
a human being can do.
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The ultimate extension,
elaboration, and refinement
of effort
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is elegance where just doing it
gives pleasure of itself.
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That's about as far
as we can get with life.
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That's equivalent to what
Ernest Hemingway called
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the sweat on a wine bottle.
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If you don't enjoy how those
beads of sweat look, you know,
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when you pour the white wine out
and you taste it
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and how your partner looks
and how the sunlight comes
through, you missed it.
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[Ridin' high Playing]
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Man: January 1, 1936...
The swingos think that swing
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is marking an indelible notation
on the evolution of jazz.
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With them,
it's a creed, a code.
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That's why the swing addicts
seem so glazed and dazed
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in their nth degree appreciation
of this...Swing business...
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So what is swing?
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Ask any one of the swingoists,
and they all vamp off, "well,
swing is something like..."
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But none seems able to define
just what it is.
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Abel green. Variety.
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narrator: In the mid 1930s,
as the great depression
stubbornly refused to lift,
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jazz came as close
as it has ever come
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to being america's
popular music.
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It had a new name now--swing--
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and its impact
was revolutionary.
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Swing rescued
the recording industry.
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In 1932,
just 10 million records had
been sold in the United States.
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By 1939, that number would grow
to 50 million.
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Swing--which had grown up
in the dancehalls of Harlem--
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would become the defining music
for an entire generation
of Americans.
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Man: I think that we all
have a hankering for the music
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we were hearing when we were
14, 15, 16 years old.
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I think that never
gets away from us,
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and with me,
it was the swing bands.
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That was my music.
This is where I was coming from.
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This is the thing that gripped
my heart at the beginning,
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and as is the case with anybody,
those things that you picked up
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early in your life are the ones
you turn back to, you know,
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when you want a little solace.
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[Bugle call rag Playing]
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Man: People needed
dance music, maybe more
than ever in america,
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because the country
was in such doldrums.
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So I think people needed
the escape of going to the savoy
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and to those other places
to dance.
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They needed those bands.
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As an antidote
to the depression,
I think swing music
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did as much as mgm musicals
to help america through.
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Narrator: Swing provided
Hollywood with its theme music
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and offered entertainment,
elegance, and escape for
a people down on their luck.
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Radios and jukeboxes could
be heard playing swing along
every main street in america,
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providing the accompaniment
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for a host of
exhilarating new dances--
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the big apple
and little peach,
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the shag and susy q,
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and the dance that had
started it all--
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the Lindy hop--
now called jitterbugging.
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Hundreds of bands
were on the road--
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and young people
followed the careers
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of the musicians
who played in them
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just as they followed
their favorite baseball players.
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Millions of white Americans
who had never listened
to jazz before
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suddenly filled ballrooms
and theaters all over
the country--
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the aragon in Chicago,
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the alcazar in Baltimore,
and the Ali baba in Oakland;
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the twilight
in fort dodge, Iowa,
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and the moonlight
in canton, Ohio...
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The arcadia ballroom in Detroit,
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the Paramount theater
in New York,
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and the palomar ballroom
in Los Angeles,
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where Benny Goodman
had thrilled audiences
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with his version of the music
first played by Louis Armstrong,
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Fletcher Henderson, chick webb
and Duke Ellington.
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Man: Swing music was
an electrifying development
in American popular culture.
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It unleashed forces that,
I think, people didn't
know existed.
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There had been dance bands,
sweet bands, sentimental bands,
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but when Benny Goodman
reached those kids
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at the palomar ballroom
in California,
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it was like 20 years later
with rock and roll.
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He was playing
a swinging rough music
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that had been played
in black communities for years.
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Ellington, you know,
wrote It don't mean a thing
If it ain't got that swing
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3 years earlier,
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and chick webb's band
was doing it
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and Fletcher Henderson's.
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It swept the country.
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It was--it unleashed
some kind of pent-up excitement
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and--and--and physicality
that I think nobody was
quite prepared for.
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Also, this was the depression.
It was not an easy period.
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And this was a music that
was just pure pleasure,
pure physical pleasure.
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[Blue skies Playing]
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Man: We are getting this money
out just as fast as we can
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because we are anxious to get
the unemployed from relief rolls
onto payrolls.
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We are not only building roads,
we are building Bridges,
we're building dams...
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It is going into
public buildings
and various other projects.
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Man: Song is the wind-chime
of memory,
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and these were our songs.
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They were part of
the daily ordinary...
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And this, I think, is what took
Benny over the gap,
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out of jazz,
into the American parlor.
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He arrived with Blueskies.
Well, we knew Blue skies.
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I mean, everybody knew
Irving Berlin so that
we were home free.
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This is our guy.
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Narrator: Within a month of
Benny Goodman's unexpected
success at the palomar,
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his records stood at number 3,
number two, and number one in
California record stores.
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He was 26 years old
and already being billed
as the "king of swing."
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Suddenly, his music
was everywhere,
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and Goodman, the reticent son
of Jewish immigrants from
the slums of Chicago,
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was becoming a matinee idol.
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Woman: I kind of was in love
with Benny Goodman.
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I don't know why.
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I thought he looked great,
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and I loved the way
he just stood there,
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and he didn't over--
you know--emphasize himself.
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He was cool. To me,
he was a cool guy--in my youth.
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You know,
I was 16 years old, 17.
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Radio announcer:
The "king of swing".
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Yes, sir, it's Benny Goodman
himself, playing...
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Gordon: And I used to put
the radio on at high volume
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and put my ear to it
to hear gene krupa,
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and my mother would go crazy,
saying, "what are you doing?"
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I said, "mom, shh!
I gotta hear this!"
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Narrator: On march 3, 1937,
Benny Goodman's orchestra began
a two-week engagement
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at the Paramount theater
in Times Square.
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Until then, they had played
hotels and ballrooms
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where alcohol was served
and the customers were
mostly adults.
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[Sing sing sing Playing]
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But at the Paramount,
everyone was welcome.
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For the first time,
high-school students,
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who had been buying up
Benny Goodman's records,
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now had a chance to see
their hero in person.
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Collier: The moment had come,
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and they were
pouring out of the subways
around Times Square in mobs,
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and the police didn't know
what was going on.
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Where were all these kids
coming from?
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What was it all about?
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Gordon: The music had such
an incredible beat that it just
brought you out of yourself
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and you got out of your seat
and you danced with whoever--
a stranger, you didn't know.
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But it was just fun to get up
and move with that beat.
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Collier: And the kids started
jitterbugging in the aisles...
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Right up around the stage,
and some of them even jumping
up on the stage.
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And that was what triggered
a great deal of publicity,
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and Benny Goodman then,
although he had been successful,
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now he had become
really an icon.
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A great--a great hero
of popular culture.
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Giddins: Benny was
a good role model.
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He comes out,
he looks like a gentleman,
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and then, in the middle
of a clarinet solo,
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all of a sudden,
he's got one foot raised,
and he's hopping around,
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then he sits down on a chair,
and he practically falls over,
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and he becomes completely
consumed in the music,
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and this is mesmerizing
for an audience because
it's not a show,
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it's not a put-on--
it's Goodman.
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Maher: The thing about Benny
that was so great was that
it was kind of an explosion.
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He showed up on the scene,
completely unknown as far
as we were concerned.
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We knew Ellington,
we knew all the other big names,
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and here is this kid
nobody had ever heard of.
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And overnight, this guy walks
into the American parlor with
jazz by the scruff of its neck.
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And all of a sudden, jazz,
which was almost a cult music,
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has become
American popular music,
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and that's what Goodman did.
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[Single petal of a rose
Playing]
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Man: Jazz music
is not race music.
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Everybody plays jazz music.
Everybody has always played it.
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But if you teach the history
of jazz, you have white bands
and black bands.
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But musicians don't
learn that way.
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See, this is the big lie
in the way that it's taught.
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Benny Goodman was going to learn
the clarinet from whoever
he could.
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That's how music is.
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You hear something you like,
and you want to play like that.
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It's not so much that he was
the great white hope,
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it's just that
the majority of people
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who bought the records
were white,
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the majority of people who wrote
about it were white,
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the record companies were owned
by white people.
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Just the music came out of
the afro-American community.
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So it just stands to logic
and reason that the king of it
would be white.
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Now, Benny Goodman himself
didn't think that.
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Interviewer: Where did
you get your ideas from?
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The ideas? Oh, man,
I got a million dreams.
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It's all I do is dream...
All the time.
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Interviewer: I thought
you played piano.
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No. This not piano;
This is dreaming.
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[Playing Symphony in black]
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that's dreaming.
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Murray: Ellington once defined
jazz as "negro feelings,"
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by which he meant American negro
feelings put to rhythm and tune.
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Ellington's music represented
the musical equivalent
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to the American spirit
of affirmation in the face
of adversity.
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It was constantly creative,
you know?
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It generated resilience which
made an experimental attitude
possible.
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Meant you developed
an experimental disposition...
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Narrator: Duke Ellington never
publicly complained
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about Benny Goodman's coronation
as "the king of swing"
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or the enormous popularity
of the new, mostly white bands
that followed in his wake.
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"Jazz is music," he said.
"Swing is business."
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[Solitude Playing]
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He continued on
his own independent course,
refusing to be categorized.
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By doing that, his trumpeter
Rex Stewart remembered,
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"he could stand above
his contemporaries...
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In the manner
of a god descending
from olympian heights...
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Let the world catch up."
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Man: He was writing
for a special orchestra,
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and he was not going
to be carried away
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by a new trend or a new--
a new kind of style
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just to say,
well, he's among them.
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He wasn't worried about whether
he's number one or two or 3.
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He wanted to be honest
to himself,
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to what he wanted
to do with that orchestra.
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And so he just swam through
the whole thing and still
comes out to be an immortal.
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[Jeep's blues Playing]
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Marsalis: At that time, there
still was this desire to push
the black man down at all costs,
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and Duke Ellington--he was a man
with a lot of fire and pride,
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and you can believe that
Duke Ellington did not like
what he saw going on.
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And even though he wasn't
the type of man who would
come out
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with a lot of
verbal pronouncements on it,
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in his music,
he makes it very, very clear
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that he is very, very proud of
who he is, what he is,
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and he feels that his music
and the music of his people
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was a tremendous contribution
to the world of music, bar none.
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Narrator: An interviewer once
asked Ellington how he felt
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about the fact that he
could not stay in many
of the hotels he played.
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Ellington deflected
the question.
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"I took the energy
it takes to pout," he said,
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"and wrote some blues."
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[Blue again Playing]
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Louis Armstrong:
♪♪ I'm blue again ♪♪
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♪♪ blue again... ♪♪
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Narrator: By the mid-1930s,
Louis Armstrong,
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the man who had first taught
a big band to swing,
was in trouble.
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He was out of work, pressed
for cash, and hadn't recorded in
the United States for two years.
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Two ex-agents with gangster
connections were suing him--
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and one was threatening
bodily harm.
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Armstrong needed help.
He hired a new manager.
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Joe glaser was
a hard, hot-tempered man,
coarse and controlling,
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with his own strong links
to the mob.
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The two men never
had a written contract,
but for the next 30 years,
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half of everything Armstrong
earned went to glaser.
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In return, glaser worked
tirelessly for his star.
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He bought out
Armstrong's former agents,
placated his ex-wife,
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made sure he played the best
nightclubs and dancehalls,
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and got him a lucrative contract
with decca records.
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Armstrong was happy
for the help.
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He was following
the practical advice
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a New Orleans bouncer had given
him years before: In a world run
by white people,
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"always have a white man
behind you."
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Giddins: Joe glaser was tough,
he was brutal, he used to have
salamis hanging from his office.
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The terrible odor.
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And if he liked you,
he'd pull down a salami
and give it to you.
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And Armstrong's devotion to
glaser, however much glaser
may disturb the rest of us,
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his devotion to glaser was real
and it was absolute.
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[Shine Playing]
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Narrator: Armstrong also
appeared in the movies.
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One of his first films
was a short called
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a rhapsody in black and blue.
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unlike Duke Ellington,
who always appeared on-screen
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as he was in life--
suave and sophisticated--
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Louis Armstrong,
a dark-skinned black man,
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was offered
very different roles.
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Giddins: He's dressed in
a leopard skin, he's standing
ankle deep in soap bubbles,
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and he's performing in heaven
because somebody
was dreaming this.
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So there's all sorts of
minstrel kind of humor
surrounding it.
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Armstrong: ♪♪ oh, cherry drop
that mean, 'cause ♪♪
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♪♪ my hair is gritty ♪♪
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♪♪ just because my teeth
are pearly ♪♪
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Giddins: But what are you
actually seeing?
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You're seeing a very powerful,
charismatic black man
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who is practically
flexing his muscles at you
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because they are bared
by the leopard skin,
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and singing the tune "Shine",
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which itself
is a minstrel number,
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in such a way that it becomes--
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it loses whatever minstrel
or negative qualities it has.
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And playing this unbelievable,
unprecedented, magnificent
virtuoso trumpet.
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But the Armstrong effect
was just too complicated
for most people.
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They became embarrassed
about it,
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and they refused to see
what was clearly on the screen,
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which was a brilliant,
brilliant young man
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they're trying to imprison
with these stereotypes,
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and he's just breaking
the chains right and left.
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Narrator: Movies made Armstrong
even more famous
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and introduced his music to a
still larger national audience.
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Look out, boys,
for Public melody #1. Ha!
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[Public melody #1 Playing]
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Narrator: But as the swing era
reached its zenith,
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most Americans remained unaware
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of how central Louis Armstrong
was to the music they loved.
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Giddins: When you listen to
Benny Goodman playing those
Fletcher Henderson charts,
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and he goes, you know...
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♪♪ Bap ba da doo Dee doo be doo
bap be dap ♪♪
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You know, if you just make
the voice a little gravelly...
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♪♪ Bap ba da doo da doo ♪♪
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♪♪ bap ba da doo da doo... ♪♪
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Giddins: You can hear Armstrong
in every phrase.
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So, look out
for Public melody #1.
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the more you listen to
those arrangements, the more
you listen to the soloists,
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the more you listen
to everything in jazz,
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the more you keep hearing
Louis, Louis, Louis.
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I mean, he created
the vocabulary.
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And we've never really gotten
so far beyond it
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that it doesn't keep cropping up
and that you don't hear
echoes of it.
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But in swing, it really is,
the sound that he brought,
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that incredible power,
it's orchestrated for
a big band.
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It's orchestrated Louis.
That's what the swing era is.
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Marsalis: The big band music was
popular because first it comes
out of the soil of the country.
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It has the happiness and joy
of the sound of jazz in it.
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It was at a certain time in
the country where you have
a certain sophistication
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and a belief
in adult sensibility.
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You had the flowering
of the American popular songs.
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So you had a lot
of popular material
they could sing and play.
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You had radio, which was just
really kicking in, which was
projecting the bands.
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And you had, also, a fantastic
belief in the country,
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like a matinee
in the roseland ballroom
or then the cotton club.
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They would hear that
on the radio and think,
"boy, this is some great thing,"
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like, you would look
at something that would
say, "made in New York,"
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and if you weren't in New York,
you would think, "boy,
New York City."
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[Well, git it! Playing]
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Radio announcer: A pleasant
and good evening to you,
ladies and gentlemen,
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from Manhattan
to the golden gate.
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It's another first nighter
on the air for the national
broadcasting company...
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Collier: One of
the great thrills was
at the Paramount theater
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when you would be a teenager--
12, even as young as 12, 13,
14, 15--
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and you'd saved your pennies,
and you were able to go
to the theater
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to hear your favorite band,
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and you would hear
in the distance
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the beginnings of the sound
of the theme of that orchestra,
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and you would hear that very
faintly in the background...
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[Band playing]
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And then the band would
rise up on this rising stage
that they had
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and come into sight playing
their classic theme...
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And that was--that was chills,
I'm telling you,
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that was chills right up
your back and across
the top of your head.
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That was something.
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Narrator: In the wake
of Benny Goodman's
astonishing success,
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the sounds of dozens of
big bands now filled the air
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and helped draw millions to
movie theaters and dancehalls.
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Some played precious little
jazz, emphasizing pop tunes
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and featuring attractive singers
guaranteed to boost
the box office.
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But all of them encouraged
Americans to get back on
their feet and dance.
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There was Woody Herman's
"band that plays the blues"
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and the casa loma orchestra.
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Bob Crosby and the bobcats.
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Kay kyser and his kollege
of musical knowledge.
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There were the all-girl
international sweethearts
of rhythm
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and ina ray hutton
and her melodears.
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Earl hines had an orchestra,
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so did Benny Carter...
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And Charlie barnet...
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And jimmie lunceford.
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Radio announcer: Men, jubilee
is on the air to bring you
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riff number one of the battle
of barrel house,
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boogie woogie,
and the blues.
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For those of you who don't
cotton to a melodic handle,
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the treble clef is now being
tintinnabulated by the cat
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whose paw is the daddy of
the dicty downbeat,
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jimmie lunceford.
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[Playing Nagasaki]
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♪♪ boy ♪♪
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♪♪ ginger and dynamite ♪♪
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♪♪ back in Nagasaki where
the fellas chew tobaccky ♪♪
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♪♪ and the women
wicky-wacky-woo! ♪♪
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♪♪ the way they entertain ♪♪
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♪♪ and the women
wicky-wacky-woo! ♪♪
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Narrator: Jimmie lunceford
once said that
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"a band that looks good,
goes in for better showmanship,
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"and seems to be
enjoying its work,
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will always be sure of
a return visit."
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Lunceford's orchestra
would demonstrate that
night after night.
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He had fine soloists,
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but it was the band's
astonishing ensemble precision
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that brought the dancers
out onto the floor
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wherever it played.
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Giddins: Jimmie lunceford
had the greatest show band
that ever was.
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The guys in that band
were beautiful.
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They had the best-tailored
uniforms in the business,
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and they all looked great.
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And they had all kinds
of hand things, and they
had novelty vocals.
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They had routines where
they would throw
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the trumpets up in the air
and catch them simultaneously.
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Man: Very few people are talking
about jimmie lunceford.
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Jimmie had a great respect
for what he was doing,
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and he infused his men
with that respect.
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And he had a lot of
prima Donnas in that band,
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but once they were
in that band,
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they submerged
their personalities
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into the overall ensemble.
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And it was a tremendous band.
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It was always at its peak.
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[Getting sentimental
Over you Playing]
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Woman: Mmm...What music,
let's dance.
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Man: No, let's listen,
it's Tommy dorsey.
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Announcer: And here's that
sentimental gentleman himself,
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Tommy dorsey!
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[Applause]
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[Playing Song of India]
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narrator: Though
he was billed as
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"the sentimental gentleman
of swing,"
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there was nothing sentimental
about Tommy dorsey.
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He was combative
and tight-fisted,
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a hard-drinking taskmaster
who created his own band
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mostly because he could
no longer bear to play
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alongside his brother, Jimmy.
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But his band was hugely popular
and through its ranks moved
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such stars as bunny berigan,
Dave tough, buddy rich,
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and a skinny singer from
hoboken, New Jersey,
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named frank Sinatra.
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Shaw: Dorsey, he was
a superb musician,
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he was a great trombone player.
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Tommy made the trombone
into a singing instrument.
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He was the first guy who took it
from a "blatting" instrument,
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you know... ♪♪ ta da ta da
da dah da da da da dah ♪♪
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And he made it into
a song instrument.
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He played melodies on it.
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His breath control was superb.
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He was a hell of a player.
He had a hell of a band.
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Very, very,
very underestimated.
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Giddins: He really, I think,
more than anybody else,
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was able to create an orchestra
that had two souls.
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It could be a very good
jazz orchestra
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and a very good pop orchestra.
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It could be a sweet band
playing very sentimental tunes,
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but it could also be
a very vigorous jazz band.
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And he always kept
very good soloists in the band.
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[Playing Gal from kalamazoo]
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narrator: One of the most
popular swing bands of
all time was led by
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another trombonist,
Glenn Miller,
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who favored tightly
controlled arrangements--
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and plenty of vocals
and showmanship.
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♪♪ Hi there, Tex,
how's your new romance ♪♪
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♪♪ the one you met at
the campus dance? ♪♪
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♪♪ wait until
you see her ♪♪
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♪♪ you'll agree ♪♪
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♪♪ my hometown gal's
the only one for me ♪♪
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♪♪ a-b-c-d-e-f-g-h-
I got a gal ♪♪
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♪♪ in kalamazoo ♪♪
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Giddins: I think the importance
of Glenn Miller
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was that he popularized
swing music for a lot of people
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who couldn't even get with,
you know, Goodman and Ellington.
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He made it very romantic.
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He created the sound of
that era that--that--
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that a lot of people
will always associate--
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people who were alive then--
with that period.
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And it's not
a negligible contribution.
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Certainly, it's not creative
in a traditional jazz sense,
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but it's a--it's a potent brew.
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♪♪ ...today ♪♪
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♪♪ am I dreamin'? ♪♪
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♪♪ I can hear
her screamin' ♪♪
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Shaw: He had what you'd call
a republican band--
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very straight-laced,
middle of the road.
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And Miller was that kind of guy,
he was a businessman.
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And he was sort of
the Lawrence Welk of jazz.
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And that's one of the reasons
he was so big,
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people could identify
with what he did.
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They perceived what
he was doing.
459
00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:52,660
But the biggest problem,
his band never made a mistake.
460
00:38:52,890 --> 00:38:54,790
And it's one of
the things wrong,
461
00:38:54,930 --> 00:38:57,360
because if you don't ever
make a mistake,
462
00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:59,260
you're not playing at
the edge of your ability.
463
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,030
You're playing safely,
within limits,
464
00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:03,670
and you know what you can do,
465
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,270
and it sounds, after a while,
extremely boring.
466
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,670
♪♪ ...in kalamazoo ♪♪
467
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,280
♪♪ zoo zoo zoo zoo
zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo zoo ♪♪
468
00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:20,250
♪♪ zoo... ♪♪
469
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:24,420
♪♪ kalamazoo ♪♪
470
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,490
Narrator: In the years to come,
Glenn Miller and his orchestra
471
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:31,430
would turn out hit after hit,
472
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,260
including String of pearls,
473
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,530
little brown jug,
And In the mood
474
00:39:36,570 --> 00:39:41,270
that would be among swing's
most familiar anthems.
475
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:45,270
[Applause]
476
00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:52,820
[Stompin' at the savoy
Playing]
477
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:55,990
Man: I thought that
the happiest I could be
478
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:03,030
would be
in a jazz club, playing.
479
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:11,570
Then my dad said, "you're going
to be a cattleman."
480
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:15,200
When we'd drive the cattle,
481
00:40:15,340 --> 00:40:18,640
my dream was that
the Benny Goodman band bus
482
00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:20,940
would want to get
through the cattle
483
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,480
and I wouldn't let 'em through
484
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:28,180
unless they let me get
on the bus and play with them.
485
00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:31,450
But in my mind that's
what I was--
486
00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:33,720
someday I'd be heard
487
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,030
with some band
going through here.
488
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:56,950
Ha ha!
489
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:18,430
[Summertime Playing]
490
00:41:18,570 --> 00:41:21,700
Giddins: Artie Shaw is probably
the finest clarinet player
491
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,140
that jazz has ever
produced technically.
492
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:27,740
A true virtuoso.
493
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,750
When you compare Artie
and Benny, what people
usually say is that
494
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,550
Benny swung more, he had
more of a blues quality,
495
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:37,450
but that Artie had
a prettier tone,
496
00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:40,420
he was a more intellectual
player, a more lyrical player,
497
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,990
had a better technique.
498
00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:50,600
Narrator: Artie Shaw was
Benny Goodman's greatest rival.
499
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,970
Gifted, erudite, articulate,
and opinionated,
500
00:41:55,110 --> 00:41:58,510
Shaw successfully combined
chamber music with jazz
501
00:41:58,540 --> 00:42:01,310
and won an enormous following.
502
00:42:01,450 --> 00:42:05,980
But he was cursed, he said,
with serious-mindedness.
503
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,120
He disliked autograph-seekers,
disdained jitterbugging,
504
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,920
and was made profoundly uneasy
by his own success.
505
00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:17,030
And now, ladies and gentlemen,
506
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:53,630
our own version of Cole Porter's
Begin the beguine.
507
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,940
Shaw: Well, the minute
you became a big, big smash hit,
508
00:42:59,070 --> 00:43:01,940
it became very confusing.
509
00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:05,540
Nothing in life
can prepare you for stardom.
510
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,480
Success is a very big problem,
bigger than failure.
511
00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:11,050
You can deal with failure.
512
00:43:11,180 --> 00:43:15,180
It's tough, it's hard, you fight
like hell to get--get it going.
513
00:43:15,220 --> 00:43:22,830
But success is an opiate,
and you get very confused.
514
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,100
Things happen that
you have no preparation for.
515
00:43:29,130 --> 00:43:32,100
And money comes in
and popularity
516
00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:34,070
and people
throw themselves at you.
517
00:43:34,210 --> 00:43:41,540
And you don't know
what you're into.
518
00:43:41,780 --> 00:43:43,050
I couldn't handle it,
519
00:43:43,180 --> 00:43:46,520
I didn't know what
to do with it.
520
00:43:46,650 --> 00:43:48,780
Narrator: The basic truth,
Artie Shaw concluded,
521
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,920
is that popular music has
little or nothing to do with
522
00:43:52,060 --> 00:43:54,790
musical values at all.
523
00:43:54,930 --> 00:43:57,760
Shaw: I still wanted
to play music,
524
00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:01,260
and the audience was saying,
"play what you're playing,
525
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,570
play the same thing over
and over, we like that."
526
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:06,600
And they never could get it
through their heads that
527
00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:09,210
what they liked was something
I was doing on my way
528
00:44:09,340 --> 00:44:10,610
to getting better.
529
00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:14,480
That record that they liked,
Begin the beguine--
530
00:44:14,610 --> 00:44:16,010
which became a millstone,
531
00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:20,380
it became an albatross
around my neck.
532
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,890
Narrator: The overwhelming
success of Begin the beguine
533
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:28,160
would eventually propel
Artie Shaw past Benny Goodman
534
00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:29,790
in popularity.
535
00:44:29,830 --> 00:44:36,870
But in 1939, Shaw disbanded
his orchestra in frustration.
536
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,630
"I'm unhappy in
the music business," he said.
537
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:42,970
"I like the music--
love and live it, in fact--
538
00:44:43,110 --> 00:44:53,780
but for me the business part
plain stinks."
539
00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:10,270
[Truckin' Playing]
540
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,570
Man: August 27,
the Duke Ellington orchestra
541
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:15,300
will appear for one night only
542
00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:22,850
at the turnpike casino,
Lincoln, Nebraska.
543
00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:26,450
August 28,
Waterloo, Iowa;
544
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:29,920
August 29 and 30,
545
00:45:30,050 --> 00:45:35,220
coronado theater,
rockford, Illinois;
546
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:42,900
August 31, orpheum theater,
Madison, Wisconsin.
547
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:44,630
September 2 and 3,
548
00:45:44,770 --> 00:45:51,670
the Duke Ellington orchestra
will be appearing in Milwaukee.
549
00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:56,250
Narrator: Despite the depression
and in part because of it,
550
00:45:56,380 --> 00:45:57,610
swing music had become
551
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:59,850
a hundred-million-dollar
industry.
552
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:08,060
30,000 to 40,000 musicians were
employed to play dance music
across the country.
553
00:46:08,190 --> 00:46:11,890
And another 8,000 men and women
were needed just to manage,
554
00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:19,170
book, and promote
their appearances.
555
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:21,270
Even for the best-paid bands,
556
00:46:21,310 --> 00:46:23,910
like Benny Goodman's
and Artie Shaw's,
557
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,010
the road was hectic
and exhausting.
558
00:46:27,150 --> 00:46:32,480
Shaw: The problem was
to meet a payroll.
559
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,220
You have 14 to 20
or at times 40 men,
560
00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:39,420
and you got to pay them
every week.
561
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,560
In my day, the men were
part of an organization.
562
00:46:42,690 --> 00:46:44,930
We traveled together,
we lived together,
563
00:46:45,160 --> 00:47:10,620
and I'm talking about times
when hotels were $3.00 a night.
564
00:47:10,660 --> 00:47:15,220
Narrator: Some bookers insisted
bands cover 500 miles
between dates
565
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,590
and work
7 nights a week--
566
00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:21,260
until the union finally
managed to get it decreased to
567
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,230
6 nights and 400 miles.
568
00:47:24,370 --> 00:47:29,100
Andy kirk and his clouds of joy
averaged more than 50,000 miles
569
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:31,540
a year on rough roads.
570
00:47:31,580 --> 00:47:34,010
"When I left Duke,"
571
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:36,450
one long-time Ellington
trumpet-player remembered,
572
00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:40,080
"I slept almost a whole year."
573
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,220
[Living in a great big way
Playing]
574
00:47:43,250 --> 00:47:47,560
Man: We did 300 one-nighters
and never even felt it.
575
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:49,890
After 300 or 400 miles
a day at a bus,
576
00:47:50,030 --> 00:47:52,060
we couldn't wait to
get on the bandstand,
577
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,760
we had that vitality.
578
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:55,870
We wanted to play, you know,
579
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,630
even if we hadn't eaten all day.
580
00:47:58,770 --> 00:48:01,400
'Course when I first
joined the band,
581
00:48:01,540 --> 00:48:04,210
we were making about
$8.00 a night.
582
00:48:04,340 --> 00:48:05,740
So we didn't play
for the money.
583
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:15,380
We played for ourselves.
We just loved to play.
584
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,950
Woman: Traveling could be
really kind of rough
585
00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:19,960
because we'd travel for hours,
586
00:48:20,190 --> 00:48:22,090
and then we'd have to
get out of the bus,
587
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:25,960
get on the stage,
and do a great show.
588
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:27,730
And somehow, it's so funny,
589
00:48:27,970 --> 00:48:29,730
that the more difficult
the traveling was
590
00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:33,200
or the more tired everyone was,
the greater the music.
591
00:48:33,340 --> 00:48:37,140
The guys would come off
of a long, long ride
592
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:41,280
and sit on that bandstand
and blow us away.
593
00:48:41,310 --> 00:48:46,580
It was unbelievable.
594
00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:49,150
Woman: ♪♪ I don't want you ♪
595
00:48:49,290 --> 00:48:51,590
♪♪ but hate to lose you ♪♪
596
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,090
♪♪ you got me in between ♪♪
597
00:48:54,220 --> 00:48:56,830
♪♪ the devil
and the deep blue sea ♪♪
598
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:03,770
Narrator: The men drank hard,
gambled hard, played hard.
599
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:06,540
Woman:
♪♪ ...You've got me in between ♪
600
00:49:06,570 --> 00:49:10,240
♪♪ the devil
and the deep blue sea ♪♪
601
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,470
♪♪ I ought to cross you
off my list ♪♪
602
00:49:12,610 --> 00:49:16,050
♪♪ but when you come
a-knockin' at my door ♪♪
603
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,380
♪♪ fate seems to give
my heart a twist ♪♪
604
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,580
♪♪ and I come
running back for more ♪♪
605
00:49:21,820 --> 00:49:24,750
♪♪ I should hate you ♪♪
606
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:27,890
♪♪ but I guess I love you ♪♪
607
00:49:28,030 --> 00:49:30,260
♪♪ you've got me in between ♪♪
608
00:49:30,490 --> 00:49:52,250
♪♪ the devil
and the deep blue sea ♪♪
609
00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:55,620
Man on P.A.: Bus 112
for Newark, New Jersey--
610
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:57,150
narrator: "All you need
to survive on the road,"
611
00:49:57,390 --> 00:49:59,120
Benny Goodman's
great trumpet player
612
00:49:59,260 --> 00:50:00,660
bunny berrigan once said,
613
00:50:00,890 --> 00:50:05,360
"was a toothbrush and a photo
of Louis Armstrong."
614
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:08,660
[Tough truckin' Playing]
615
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,940
Man: "November 1--
having bus trouble.
616
00:50:13,070 --> 00:50:15,200
"Stay on road all night.
617
00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:17,410
"Weather cold.
618
00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:21,640
"Orchestra makes bonfire
with bus tire.
619
00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:25,510
"Get help next morning.
620
00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:30,150
"November 7--bus seized by
clothing store,
621
00:50:30,190 --> 00:50:32,950
"finally redeemed...
622
00:50:33,090 --> 00:50:37,290
"Too late for orchestra to make
date in cumberland, Kentucky.
623
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:40,660
"Woman proprietor of
southern hotel holds
624
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:43,600
king Oliver's trumpet
for rent."
625
00:50:43,830 --> 00:50:48,470
Paul Barnes.
626
00:50:48,510 --> 00:50:53,540
Narrator: On the road,
band leaders rarely paid
for food or lodging,
627
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,880
so many musicians spent every
other night sleeping on the bus
628
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:00,250
to save a little money.
629
00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:04,050
Some bands were too poor
to afford a bus at all.
630
00:51:04,090 --> 00:51:07,790
As many as 10 musicians packed
into a single touring car
631
00:51:08,030 --> 00:51:12,460
and hauled their instruments
in a trailer.
632
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:17,100
Sometimes, stranded
between engagements,
633
00:51:17,230 --> 00:51:21,470
they would simply pull
into a roadhouse, begin to play,
634
00:51:21,610 --> 00:51:38,720
and hope passing the hat would
raise enough cash to buy dinner.
635
00:51:38,860 --> 00:51:41,160
Traveling in
segregated america,
636
00:51:41,290 --> 00:51:43,790
the musicians who had been
the first to play swing
637
00:51:43,930 --> 00:51:47,730
had to overcome obstacles
unknown to whites.
638
00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:53,270
Black musicians were
generally paid far less,
639
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,640
barred from cafes and restrooms
along the road,
640
00:51:56,770 --> 00:52:00,440
were rarely permitted to eat
or sleep at the hotels
641
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,350
where they performed,
642
00:52:03,580 --> 00:52:08,220
but they found a ready welcome
in black neighborhoods.
643
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:10,990
There were black-owned
and operated hotels
644
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,360
and rooming-houses
in every big town.
645
00:52:14,490 --> 00:52:17,660
And there was a network of
celebrated cooks
646
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,030
eager to cater to
black musicians.
647
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,730
"They cooked for you like
they cooked for their family,"
648
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:26,840
one band-member remembered.
649
00:52:27,070 --> 00:52:41,280
"And they didn't mind filling
your plate up."
650
00:52:41,420 --> 00:52:43,290
Man: And we'd get in town
from the bus
651
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,220
just in time to get
the instruments out
652
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,720
and set up the bandstand
and go to play.
653
00:52:48,860 --> 00:52:50,230
Hadn't had anything to eat.
654
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:53,000
I had no place to stay,
or anything.
655
00:52:53,130 --> 00:52:54,860
We up there playing,
and the people crammed in there,
656
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,000
and my wife Mona
would be the only girl
traveling with the band,
657
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:01,300
she would go around to
the black neighborhoods
and talk to the ladies.
658
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,140
She says, "we haven't had
anything to eat.
659
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:04,770
We haven't had
any place to stay."
660
00:53:04,910 --> 00:53:06,680
And these ladies were
awful nice.
661
00:53:06,910 --> 00:53:08,110
They would get together
and call one another, say,
662
00:53:08,250 --> 00:53:10,550
"well, Mrs. Jones will take two
over at her husband's house,
663
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,450
and Mrs. Smith say,
she'll take two."
664
00:53:12,580 --> 00:53:17,090
By intermission time, Mona would
come down to that bandstand
665
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,360
with a great big basket of
chicken and potato salad
666
00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:21,190
and a list of names:
667
00:53:21,330 --> 00:53:23,530
"'Dizzy, you
and chu Berry are staying
over at Mrs. Jones house;
668
00:53:23,660 --> 00:53:26,130
Charlie, you and so-and-so
over at Mrs. Smith's house."
669
00:53:26,260 --> 00:53:27,400
And this is the way
we survived...
670
00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:34,870
[Queen isabella Playing]
671
00:53:35,110 --> 00:53:38,710
Man: Variety. June, 1937.
672
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,280
"Attendance records
are being broken
673
00:53:41,410 --> 00:53:43,380
"practically every night
of the week.
674
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:46,850
"Claim is that many of
the smaller spots,
675
00:53:46,980 --> 00:53:49,480
"including those far off
the beaten path,
676
00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:54,620
"turn in better grosses
than recognized city palaces.
677
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,830
"Reason is that even
the bare-footed population
678
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:33,360
recognize band names
when they hear 'em."
679
00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:44,310
[Smiles Playing]
680
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,970
♪♪ There are smiles ♪♪
681
00:54:46,110 --> 00:54:47,740
♪♪ silly ol' smiles ♪♪
682
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,810
♪♪ that make us happy ♪♪
683
00:54:49,950 --> 00:54:50,950
♪♪ happy all day ♪♪
684
00:54:51,180 --> 00:54:52,680
Collier: When we talk
about swing,
685
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,880
the swing bands,
it's a little dicey
686
00:54:56,020 --> 00:54:57,590
as to whether we're going to
call this jazz or not.
687
00:54:57,720 --> 00:54:59,550
♪♪ There are smiles ♪♪
688
00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:04,190
♪♪ that steal away
the teardrops ♪♪
689
00:55:04,330 --> 00:55:06,190
Because a great deal of
that music really was
690
00:55:06,330 --> 00:55:10,430
pretty commercial stuff.
691
00:55:10,570 --> 00:55:12,600
The kids out there,
most of them, like any kids,
692
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,800
were interested in popular music
because that was the hip thing,
693
00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:17,640
you had to know
the names of the bands.
694
00:55:17,770 --> 00:55:19,370
♪♪ But the smiles ♪♪
695
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:22,910
♪♪ that filled my life
with sunshine ♪♪
696
00:55:23,050 --> 00:55:24,350
♪♪ yes, yes ♪♪
697
00:55:24,380 --> 00:55:25,950
♪♪ are the smiles ♪♪
698
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:34,290
♪♪ that you give to me ♪♪
699
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,590
That's swing music
if I ever heard it.
700
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:43,130
[Cherokee Playing]
701
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:45,200
Narrator:
Adults loved swing music,
702
00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:55,340
but it was teenagers who made it
a national craze.
703
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,110
Trumpet sales doubled,
704
00:55:58,250 --> 00:56:00,280
and sales of clarinets,
705
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,790
Artie Shaw's and Benny Goodman's
instrument, tripled.
706
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,620
There was an unofficial swing
"uniform."
707
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,290
Boys dressed in sport jackets
and slacks,
708
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:14,600
like the ones their heroes wore
on the bandstand.
709
00:56:14,730 --> 00:56:18,230
Girls favored Bobby socks
and saddle shoes,
710
00:56:18,270 --> 00:56:23,150
and pleated skirts that
flared when they got
onto the dance floor.
711
00:56:28,830 --> 00:56:32,360
Narrator: Every important
bandleader had a fan club.
712
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:36,430
Young women showered
the best-looking players
with letters...
713
00:56:36,670 --> 00:56:41,100
And telephone numbers.
714
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:48,280
Artie Shaw once dismissed
jitterbugs and ickies alike
as "morons."
715
00:56:50,010 --> 00:56:53,980
Whose appearance at
the Paramount had pulled
them out of their seats,
716
00:56:54,120 --> 00:57:01,220
confessed he was sometimes
frightened by their enthusiasm.
717
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,790
Giddins: To be a band leader
at that time was to be,
I suppose you could say,
718
00:57:05,930 --> 00:57:07,830
like a rock musician
more recently.
719
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,100
They were courted by
the whole culture.
720
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:11,800
These were the new celebrities.
721
00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:14,000
And it was something new
in the music.
722
00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:16,000
It was something new
in American popular culture,
723
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,810
and it lasted
for almost 10 years.
724
00:57:17,940 --> 00:57:22,740
[Grand terrace shuffle Playing]
725
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,580
Narrator:
But swing had its critics.
726
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,850
The sweet bandleader blue barron
denounced it as "nothing
but orchestrated sex....
727
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:35,420
A phallic symbol
set to sound..."
728
00:57:35,660 --> 00:57:41,530
And Dr. A.A. Brill,
a noted psychiatrist,
was even more concerned.
729
00:57:41,770 --> 00:57:48,800
Swing music represents our
regression to the primitive
Tom-Tom-Tom,
730
00:57:48,940 --> 00:57:53,670
a rhythmic sound that pleases
savages and children alike.
731
00:57:53,910 --> 00:58:00,520
It acts as a narcotic
and makes them forget reality.
732
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:05,320
They forget the depression,
the loss of their jobs.
733
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:12,030
It is like taking a drug.
734
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,600
Gordon: My parents, anyway,
didn't really understand
anything about music.
735
00:58:16,730 --> 00:58:18,270
Why am I listening
to Duke Ellington?
736
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,270
Why am I listening
to Louis Armstrong?
737
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,940
And they're out of it
completely.
738
00:58:21,970 --> 00:58:23,840
They don't even why I'm into it.
739
00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:27,080
I loved it, that's all I know
and that's all I cared about.
740
00:58:27,110 --> 00:58:29,410
There was that sense
that we were rebels.
741
00:58:29,550 --> 00:58:32,710
We were doing something that
our grown-ups didn't know about
742
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:34,880
and probably didn't like
very well.
743
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,350
And the jitterbugging,
of course, is very much
a part of it,
744
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:41,190
that, that dancing,
because it was strenuous,
745
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,690
and the girls were out there
with their little short skirts
and their Bobby socks.
746
00:58:45,930 --> 00:58:50,000
As they twirled around,
those skirts would rise up
a little bit like that.
747
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:52,530
Nothing like what we have today,
mind you.
748
00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:09,880
[Body and soul Playing]
749
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:12,720
Man: I'm at my freshman year,
gonzaga university.
750
00:59:12,860 --> 00:59:15,220
I'm in the gymnasium one day.
751
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,220
And I'm sitting at the piano.
752
00:59:17,460 --> 00:59:19,360
And I'm playing.
753
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:21,800
And this guy comes in
and listened...
754
00:59:21,930 --> 00:59:24,670
With his arm on the top
of the piano.
755
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,870
And he's listening to me,
and he's looking at me,
and he's kinda grinning.
756
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,840
So I finally stopped and I said,
"well, how do you like it?"
757
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,310
Or something like that.
758
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,410
And he said, "I like your touch,
you got a nice touch.
759
00:59:39,550 --> 00:59:42,950
"But you're not playing
the right style.
760
00:59:42,990 --> 00:59:45,650
You're not playing the right way
to play."
761
00:59:45,790 --> 00:59:48,890
He takes me downstairs,
and he sets me down
in this room,
762
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:51,790
and he puts this Teddy Wilson on
record on with Benny Goodman.
763
00:59:51,930 --> 00:59:54,900
And I had never heard this kind
of music before in my life.
764
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:56,560
Never heard any jazz.
765
00:59:56,700 --> 00:59:58,570
I hadn't even heard
Louis Armstrong.
766
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,330
I hadn't heard anything.
767
01:00:00,370 --> 01:00:02,800
Just American album
of familiar music.
768
01:00:02,940 --> 01:00:07,140
And all of a sudden
I'm listening to this guy
play the piano.
769
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,640
I say, "holy mackerel,
770
01:00:08,780 --> 01:00:11,610
wait a minute, wait a minute,
who is that?"
771
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:13,310
He said,
"that's Teddy Wilson.
772
01:00:13,350 --> 01:00:19,890
And that's the way you should
play the piano, ace."
773
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,490
Narrator: One of Benny Goodman's
best-loved records
774
01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:25,290
had been Body and soul,
775
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:31,300
played by a trio he used only
at recording dates.
776
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:34,340
The whole country
had heard the record,
777
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:38,740
but it had never occurred
to Goodman to bring
the trio on stage
778
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,340
because the piano player,
Teddy Wilson,
779
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,150
was a black man.
780
01:00:46,380 --> 01:00:50,250
Wilson was the reserved,
urbane son of a librarian
781
01:00:50,290 --> 01:00:55,090
and a professor of English
at tuskegee institute.
782
01:00:55,220 --> 01:00:56,490
[Who Playing]
783
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:59,560
His light touch and seemingly
effortless technique
784
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:02,300
perfectly matched
Goodman's own playing.
785
01:01:02,330 --> 01:01:08,370
[I've got a heart full of music
Playing]
786
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,270
Giddins: There was
never a piano player
like Teddy Wilson.
787
01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:15,340
I think one of the things
that distinguishes him
788
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,010
from all the piano players
who precede him--
789
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:19,510
waller, Duke Ellington--
790
01:01:19,650 --> 01:01:21,620
is they had
a very percussive tack.
791
01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:30,290
Teddy Wilson had
a light, lyrical tack.
792
01:01:30,430 --> 01:01:32,030
It's an exquisite sound.
793
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,300
He makes every key sound like
a chime or a bell.
794
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:53,950
And he's very fast.
795
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,790
And you realize that no one
has ever made the piano
sound quite like that.
796
01:01:58,020 --> 01:02:00,450
After two measures you know
it can't be anybody else
but Teddy Wilson.
797
01:02:00,590 --> 01:02:03,690
[Time on my hands Playing]
798
01:02:03,830 --> 01:02:10,330
Narrator: Goodman had
first played with Wilson
at a jam session in 1934.
799
01:02:10,570 --> 01:02:13,170
"Teddy and I began to play,"
he remembered,
800
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:18,370
"as though we were thinking
with the same brain."
801
01:02:18,510 --> 01:02:24,280
Within weeks, Goodman had
brought his drummer, gene krupa,
and Wilson into the studio
802
01:02:24,510 --> 01:02:27,350
to record together.
803
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,950
But when a concert was scheduled
in Chicago
804
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:35,290
and the promoter, Helen oakley,
suggested Wilson be included
on the program,
805
01:02:35,420 --> 01:02:39,730
Goodman was reluctant.
806
01:02:39,860 --> 01:02:42,460
Helen oakley dance: I said,
"let me bring Teddy in.
807
01:02:42,700 --> 01:02:45,600
That'll be
a tremendous attraction."
808
01:02:45,630 --> 01:02:48,170
Benny said,
"I'm not such a fool.
809
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:50,240
"I'm making a hit here,
810
01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:52,570
"and i'm--this is gonna
be my career.
811
01:02:52,610 --> 01:02:53,940
"I don't want
to wreck everything
812
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:58,550
"to present a black talent
in the middle of everything.
813
01:02:58,580 --> 01:03:00,450
And so I don't like the idea."
814
01:03:00,580 --> 01:03:03,550
Collier: This was
the depression, mind you,
815
01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:08,460
and the last thing he wanted
to do was to jeopardize this
816
01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:10,790
and throw it all out the window
817
01:03:10,930 --> 01:03:17,930
by taking what seemed to
everybody to be a great chance.
818
01:03:18,070 --> 01:03:23,570
Narrator: Helen oakley, who knew
how profoundly Goodman had been
influenced by black musicians,
819
01:03:23,710 --> 01:03:27,780
and who was eager to show
that integration would work
on the bandstand,
820
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:35,020
finally convinced him
to take the chance with Wilson.
821
01:03:35,050 --> 01:03:40,290
By that time, black and white
musicians were fraternizing
and had been for a long time.
822
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,920
They'd go into
midnight jam sessions together
823
01:03:43,060 --> 01:03:46,030
and sit until 2:00, 3:00
in the morning
824
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,530
but what Goodman did,
825
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,730
he put Teddy Wilson in show biz.
826
01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:57,040
[Sweet leilani Playing]
827
01:03:57,270 --> 01:04:05,980
Narrator: Goodman never forgot
the trio's first appearance
in public.
828
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:11,750
"The three of us worked together
as if we had been born to play
this way," he said.
829
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:15,860
"The Goodman thing was as solid
as a family," Wilson said later.
830
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:32,270
"We were all there,
just like brothers."
831
01:04:32,410 --> 01:04:36,010
Benny Goodman now saw no reason
why mere custom and prejudice
832
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:40,810
should keep him
from improving his band by
enlisting more great musicians
833
01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:47,660
just because they were black.
834
01:04:47,790 --> 01:04:50,320
In a rundown bar
in Los Angeles,
835
01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:52,290
he heard Lionel Hampton,
836
01:04:52,430 --> 01:04:55,730
a master of a new instrument,
the vibraphone.
837
01:04:55,860 --> 01:04:58,630
Goodman hired him on the spot
838
01:04:58,870 --> 01:05:01,600
and transformed the trio
into a quartet.
839
01:05:01,740 --> 01:05:19,320
[I've got a heart full of music
Playing]
840
01:05:19,460 --> 01:05:21,260
Man: They play every night,
841
01:05:21,490 --> 01:05:26,860
and they make music
you would not believe.
842
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,360
Not a false note,
843
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:32,330
one finishing his solo
and dropping into
background support,
844
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:33,970
then the other,
845
01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:37,040
all adding inspiration
846
01:05:37,170 --> 01:05:57,060
until they get going
too strong to quit.
847
01:05:57,190 --> 01:06:01,360
This is really composition
on the spot,
848
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:03,330
and it is a collective thing,
849
01:06:03,370 --> 01:06:06,130
the most beautiful example
of men working together
850
01:06:06,270 --> 01:06:09,440
to be seen in public today.
851
01:06:09,570 --> 01:06:22,480
Otis Ferguson, The new republic.
852
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,320
narrator:
Despite the quartet's success,
853
01:06:25,450 --> 01:06:30,160
few other white bandleaders
would dare follow Goodman's
lead.
854
01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:32,330
The music may have been
color-blind,
855
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:37,930
but the country wasn't.
856
01:06:38,070 --> 01:06:41,040
Lionel Hampton: We had a place
where we were sitting
857
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:45,010
and where the musicians
could stop and have a drink.
858
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,870
And a guy came over to Benny
and say,
859
01:06:48,010 --> 01:06:53,610
"well, Benny, what you doing
with those niggers in the band?"
860
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:56,880
And Benny say,
"if you say that again to me,
861
01:06:57,020 --> 01:06:59,520
I'll take the clarinet and bust
you across the head with it."
862
01:06:59,660 --> 01:07:09,460
[On the alamo Playing]
863
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,130
Marsalis: Well,
jazz definitely is about
the possibilities of our--
864
01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:14,870
inherent in our system,
865
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,570
because when a band plays,
they're dealing with
a negotiation.
866
01:07:19,810 --> 01:07:22,240
The thing about jazz
is it's a healing,
867
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,750
but not by running.
868
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,420
It's the type of healing
of the engagement.
869
01:07:29,550 --> 01:07:30,650
It's like, well,
870
01:07:30,790 --> 01:07:33,490
uh, we have a--
we have a problem.
871
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,060
But we're going to heal it
with some soul.
872
01:07:36,290 --> 01:07:39,260
But in order for us to heal it,
we have to deal with it.
873
01:07:39,390 --> 01:07:41,030
And we can't run from it.
874
01:07:41,060 --> 01:08:14,730
And the more we run from it,
the more we run into it.
875
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,830
Narrator: In 1935,
876
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:20,330
Duke Ellington asked a mostly
unknown 19-year-old singer
877
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:40,220
to appear in a short film
called "symphony in black."
878
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,930
♪♪ Saddest tale on land or sea ♪
879
01:08:45,060 --> 01:08:50,300
♪♪ was when my man walked out
on me ♪♪
880
01:08:50,530 --> 01:08:53,730
Narrator:
Her name was Billie Holiday
881
01:08:53,970 --> 01:08:57,600
and she had already been living
the kind of hard life
882
01:08:57,740 --> 01:08:59,540
she portrayed in the film.
883
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:05,550
♪♪ My man's gone,
I feels alone ♪♪
884
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:11,350
♪♪ I've got those
lost my man blues ♪♪
885
01:09:11,490 --> 01:09:14,290
♪♪ he didn't treat me fair ♪♪
886
01:09:14,420 --> 01:09:17,220
♪♪ it's more than I can bear ♪♪
887
01:09:17,460 --> 01:09:22,830
♪♪ I've got those
lost my man blues ♪♪
888
01:09:22,970 --> 01:09:26,070
♪♪ I've got those lost my man ♪♪
889
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:34,840
♪♪ can't get him back again
blues ♪♪
890
01:09:34,980 --> 01:09:38,340
Narrator: She had been born
eleanora fagan in 1915
891
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:41,180
and was brought up in Baltimore.
892
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,180
Her parents never married,
893
01:09:43,420 --> 01:09:45,520
and she yearned
all of her childhood
894
01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:47,220
for her mostly absent father,
895
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,190
Clarence holiday,
896
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:54,260
a guitarist who once played
with Fletcher Henderson.
897
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:59,300
Her father's flashy example
helped lure her into
the music business,
898
01:09:59,340 --> 01:10:03,370
but his hustling ways
were mirrored in many
of the predatory men
899
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:10,380
to whom she would be attracted
all her life.
900
01:10:10,510 --> 01:10:13,010
She was molested and abused
as a child,
901
01:10:13,150 --> 01:10:14,980
and by the age of 12,
902
01:10:15,020 --> 01:10:19,020
she was working as a prostitute
in a waterfront whorehouse.
903
01:10:19,150 --> 01:10:21,090
She earned extra money
904
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,790
singing along with the victrola
in the parlor--
905
01:10:23,930 --> 01:10:27,030
the music of Louis Armstrong
and bessie Smith.
906
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:33,230
[Sobbin' hearted blues Playing]
907
01:10:33,370 --> 01:10:35,670
At 13, she was in New York,
908
01:10:35,810 --> 01:10:38,410
singing for tips
at rent parties
909
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:40,010
and small Harlem clubs,
910
01:10:40,140 --> 01:10:41,910
singing for fun at jam sessions,
911
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,250
and eventually renaming herself
Billie Holiday,
912
01:10:46,380 --> 01:10:52,250
after her absent father.
913
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:54,250
One evening in 1933,
914
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:57,360
she was singing in a club
called monette's
915
01:10:57,490 --> 01:11:05,700
when the jazz critic
and promoter John Hammond
happened to drop by.
916
01:11:05,730 --> 01:11:08,600
He was dazzled by
the way she looked...
917
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,140
And by the way she sang.
918
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:16,280
[A fine romance Playing]
919
01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:20,780
♪♪ A fine romance ♪♪
920
01:11:21,020 --> 01:11:24,790
♪♪ with no kisses ♪♪
921
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,620
♪♪ a fine romance ♪♪
922
01:11:28,860 --> 01:11:31,390
♪♪ my friend, this is ♪♪
923
01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:34,090
Narrator: Although she had
a tiny vocal range--
924
01:11:34,230 --> 01:11:36,300
just over an octave--
925
01:11:36,430 --> 01:11:39,730
holiday was able to make
each song her own,
926
01:11:39,870 --> 01:11:50,810
in part by singing
just behind the beat.
927
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:55,920
She phrased the melodies
in the manner of jazz
instrumentalists...
928
01:11:56,050 --> 01:11:58,750
And considered herself
a musician
929
01:11:58,890 --> 01:12:02,860
before she was a singer.
930
01:12:02,990 --> 01:12:08,700
♪♪ I might as well play bridge
with my old maid aunt ♪♪
931
01:12:08,830 --> 01:12:12,200
♪♪ I haven't got a chance ♪♪
932
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:19,440
♪♪ this is a fine romance ♪♪
933
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:22,710
Narrator:
Hammond eventually arranged for
a series of recording sessions
934
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,910
led by Teddy Wilson.
935
01:12:26,150 --> 01:12:32,390
Benny Goodman sometimes
sat in, too.
936
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,290
♪♪ A fine romance ♪♪
937
01:12:36,530 --> 01:12:40,330
♪♪ my good fellow ♪♪
938
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,900
♪♪ you take romance ♪♪
939
01:12:44,030 --> 01:12:47,130
♪♪ I'll take jell-o ♪♪
940
01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:49,300
♪♪ you're calmer than... ♪♪
941
01:12:49,540 --> 01:12:52,740
Woman: Billie had
that strange scratch.
942
01:12:52,980 --> 01:13:00,550
She had that astonishing timing
ahead of notes, behind notes.
943
01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:03,350
When you listen to
the early records,
944
01:13:03,490 --> 01:13:09,760
the blues feeling,
which always suggests
a certain melancholy,
945
01:13:09,890 --> 01:13:17,360
let's say, you know, it suggests
that life is going to play some,
some hard trick along the way,
946
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:21,700
it is perfectly balanced
by this kind of insouciance.
947
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,070
She's terribly witty.
948
01:13:23,310 --> 01:13:25,610
Listen to her sing
A fine romance
949
01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:31,450
she's practically ebullient when
she sounds in those early things
like a horn,
950
01:13:31,580 --> 01:13:33,880
she's having the time
of her life.
951
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:40,290
♪♪ I've never mussed the crease
in your blue serge pants ♪♪
952
01:13:40,420 --> 01:13:44,320
♪♪ I never get no chance ♪♪
953
01:13:44,460 --> 01:13:53,000
♪♪ this is a fine romance ♪♪
954
01:13:53,130 --> 01:13:56,740
Narrator: Holiday was
fiercely independent.
955
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:59,840
A woman who had known her
since childhood said,
956
01:13:59,980 --> 01:14:02,980
"she was just don't care-ish."
957
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:04,880
[Pennies from heaven Playing]
958
01:14:04,910 --> 01:14:08,350
Billie Holiday would remain
don't care-ish all her life,
959
01:14:08,380 --> 01:14:11,850
cursing, drinking, brawling,
960
01:14:11,890 --> 01:14:14,350
pursuing partners of both sexes,
961
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:17,120
leading a life
so close to the edge
962
01:14:17,260 --> 01:14:22,400
that it was a wonder
to her friends that
she managed to survive.
963
01:14:22,530 --> 01:14:26,530
But out of all of it,
she made unforgettable art
964
01:14:26,570 --> 01:14:30,600
and would eventually
become the most important
female vocalist
965
01:14:30,740 --> 01:14:35,270
in the history of jazz.
966
01:14:35,410 --> 01:14:43,780
♪♪ Oh, every time it rains,
it rains pennies from heaven ♪♪
967
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,550
Marsalis: When you hear
Billie Holiday sing,
968
01:14:46,690 --> 01:14:49,990
you hear the spirit
of bessie Smith
969
01:14:50,030 --> 01:14:51,930
and Louis Armstrong
970
01:14:52,060 --> 01:14:54,530
together in a person.
971
01:14:54,660 --> 01:14:58,630
So you have that fire
of the blues shouter,
972
01:14:58,670 --> 01:15:02,640
you have the intelligent choice
of notes like a great jazz
musician, like Louis Armstrong.
973
01:15:02,770 --> 01:15:07,540
Holiday:
♪♪ be sure that your umbrella ♪♪
974
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:12,810
♪♪ is upside down ♪♪
975
01:15:13,050 --> 01:15:14,550
Marsalis: But you have a--
with her,
976
01:15:14,780 --> 01:15:21,320
a very profound sensitivity
to the human condition.
977
01:15:21,460 --> 01:15:27,260
She tells you something about
the pain of the blues,
978
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,730
of life...
979
01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:35,270
But inside of that pain
is a toughness,
980
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,770
and that's what
you're attracted to.
981
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:41,540
♪♪ There'll be
pennies from heaven ♪♪
982
01:15:41,780 --> 01:16:01,460
♪♪ for you and me ♪♪
983
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:10,000
[Stompin' at the savoy Playing]
984
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,670
Man: Do you remember
what it was like?
985
01:16:12,710 --> 01:16:14,340
Maybe you do.
986
01:16:14,380 --> 01:16:16,110
Maybe you were there.
987
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,550
Maybe you were there in New York
988
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,950
2/3 of the way
through the 1930s
989
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,120
when there were
so many great bands playing.
990
01:16:24,250 --> 01:16:27,650
You could go to
the Manhattan room of
the hotel Pennsylvania,
991
01:16:27,890 --> 01:16:30,690
where Benny Goodman was playing
with his great band,
992
01:16:30,830 --> 01:16:32,960
complete with gene krupa.
993
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,060
Maybe you'd rather go to
some other hotel room,
994
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:38,460
like the palm room
of the commodore
995
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,840
for red norvo
and Mildred Bailey
and their soft, subtle swing,
996
01:16:42,970 --> 01:16:47,570
or to the grill room of
the Lexington for Bob Crosby
and his dixieland Bob cats.
997
01:16:47,710 --> 01:16:51,910
And then
there were the ballrooms:
998
01:16:52,050 --> 01:16:54,450
The roseland with Woody Herman
999
01:16:54,580 --> 01:16:58,250
and the savoy with chick webb.
1000
01:16:58,390 --> 01:17:02,220
George t. Simon, Metronome.
1001
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,890
narrator: The savoy ballroom, at
140th street and lenox Avenue,
1002
01:17:06,130 --> 01:17:10,730
was still Harlem's hottest spot.
1003
01:17:10,770 --> 01:17:12,330
And chick webb,
1004
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:16,000
who had been one of the first
bandleaders to play swing,
1005
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,540
was still in charge.
1006
01:17:18,570 --> 01:17:20,610
Giddins: Chick webb is a--
a phenomenon.
1007
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,910
There's never been
anyone like him,
never will be again.
1008
01:17:24,050 --> 01:17:25,650
He was a hunchback dwarf,
1009
01:17:25,780 --> 01:17:29,250
suffered from
a spinal disfigurement
from his childhood.
1010
01:17:29,490 --> 01:17:30,850
An absolutely brilliant drummer.
1011
01:17:30,990 --> 01:17:33,250
[Harlem congo Playing]
1012
01:17:33,490 --> 01:17:37,090
Here's this little guy sitting
behind a full-size drum set
1013
01:17:37,230 --> 01:17:40,630
and yet they had to nail it down
to the stage
1014
01:17:40,660 --> 01:17:43,030
because the force
of his foot pedal
1015
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,630
would have kicked the bass drum
right off.
1016
01:17:45,770 --> 01:17:51,270
[Drum solo]
1017
01:17:51,410 --> 01:17:56,540
Man: Chick webb was
my first hero that I ever saw.
1018
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,150
And I walked in,
my old man took me there--
1019
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,810
I was...Must have been
12 years old, to the theater--
1020
01:18:02,050 --> 01:18:03,920
and I'm looking for
a real, like a drummer
1021
01:18:04,050 --> 01:18:05,820
and all I see is
a gigantic bass drum
1022
01:18:05,950 --> 01:18:08,320
with a head sticking
over the top of it
1023
01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:10,320
and these two--
two arms flailing around,
1024
01:18:10,460 --> 01:18:13,460
playing the greatest stuff
I ever heard in my life.
1025
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,660
[Drum solo]
1026
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,300
Narrator: On may 11, 1937,
1027
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:25,240
Benny Goodman ventured uptown
to challenge webb
1028
01:18:25,470 --> 01:18:30,680
in what was billed as
the "music battle
of the century."
1029
01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:33,580
"Fellas, this is my hour,"
webb told his men,
1030
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:42,920
"anybody misses notes--
don't come back to work!"
1031
01:18:43,060 --> 01:18:45,860
4,000 fans jammed
into the ballroom,
1032
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:49,100
and mounted policemen
and firemen had to be called
1033
01:18:49,230 --> 01:18:51,330
to control
the crowd of 5,000 more
1034
01:18:51,570 --> 01:18:54,970
who couldn't get in
and refused to go home.
1035
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:57,240
Among those who did get in
1036
01:18:57,370 --> 01:19:00,310
were Norma Miller
and Frankie Manning,
1037
01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:01,980
professional Lindy hoppers now,
1038
01:19:02,110 --> 01:19:08,320
who had been taking on
all comers in dance contests
around the world.
1039
01:19:08,350 --> 01:19:10,650
They had come home to the savoy
1040
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:14,920
to see their hero face
his most celebrated challenger.
1041
01:19:15,060 --> 01:19:21,630
[Don't be that way Playing]
1042
01:19:21,860 --> 01:19:25,400
The night that Benny Goodman
came to play against
chick webb...
1043
01:19:25,530 --> 01:19:26,770
Woman: 1938.
1044
01:19:26,900 --> 01:19:28,300
This was
an electrical night,
1045
01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:31,100
this was, I mean,
with the, the air
1046
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:32,970
of being around
the savoy ballroom.
1047
01:19:33,210 --> 01:19:36,080
Here's Benny Goodman,
the king of swing,
and here's--
1048
01:19:36,110 --> 01:19:38,040
chick webb,
the king of swing.
1049
01:19:38,180 --> 01:19:39,480
The king of swing.
1050
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:41,110
You know, as far
as we are concerned,
1051
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,350
there's chick webb
going up against
Benny Goodman.
1052
01:19:45,490 --> 01:19:49,590
[Don't be that way Playing,
Benny Goodman]
1053
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,460
Manning: You know,
Goodman was a giant
1054
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:54,490
because they called him
"the king of swing"
at that time.
1055
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:56,360
And any band
that played swing,
1056
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,330
we would buy
their records.
1057
01:19:58,470 --> 01:20:00,700
So we we knew--
we knew about
Benny Goodman.
1058
01:20:00,940 --> 01:20:03,000
A lot of people
may not realize
1059
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:07,010
that a lot of
the arrangements
that Benny Goodman had,
1060
01:20:07,140 --> 01:20:08,940
chick webb had
the same arrangements.
1061
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,650
[Don't be that way Playing,
chick webb]
1062
01:20:13,780 --> 01:20:16,420
Manning: And when
they get on a bandstand,
1063
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:20,520
now this is when you
can know which band
is the best,
1064
01:20:20,660 --> 01:20:24,220
by listening to them
play the same
arrangement.
1065
01:20:24,260 --> 01:21:06,430
[Don't be that way Playing,
chick webb]
1066
01:21:06,570 --> 01:21:07,800
Manning: To me,
1067
01:21:07,940 --> 01:21:10,040
chick webb outswung
Benny Goodman
that night.
1068
01:21:10,170 --> 01:21:12,610
Miller: I say
the same thing, yeah.
1069
01:21:12,740 --> 01:21:13,910
That was my feeling.
1070
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:15,440
I'm not saying this
because--
1071
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:16,910
not being prejudiced.
1072
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,350
Yeah, because
it's chick webb
1073
01:21:18,580 --> 01:21:20,010
or because
I'm being prejudiced.
1074
01:21:20,250 --> 01:21:24,280
But to me, I feel that
chick webb outswung
Benny Goodman
1075
01:21:24,420 --> 01:21:26,390
that night, you know,
1076
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,420
because I saw guys on
Benny Goodman's band--
bandstand
1077
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,060
when chick webb
was playing...
1078
01:21:31,090 --> 01:21:34,760
I seen guys on there,
they'd stand up there
and say...
1079
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,500
They just
shook their heads.
1080
01:21:38,630 --> 01:21:41,330
Narrator:
The Goodman band was routed.
1081
01:21:41,470 --> 01:21:45,470
Gene krupa bowed down in tribute
to the man who had beaten him:
1082
01:21:45,610 --> 01:21:51,010
Chick webb, he said,
had "cut me to ribbons."
1083
01:21:51,050 --> 01:21:53,750
"Nobody," one of webb's men
remembered,
1084
01:21:53,880 --> 01:22:03,720
"could have taken it away
from chick that night."
1085
01:22:03,860 --> 01:22:17,270
[These foolish things remind me
Of you Playing]
1086
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:20,370
Narrator: Despite its
overwhelming popularity,
1087
01:22:20,410 --> 01:22:23,710
swing music had not captured
the heart of every musician--
1088
01:22:23,850 --> 01:22:26,380
or every jazz fan.
1089
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:31,150
Some found big bands too stiff,
too regimented.
1090
01:22:31,390 --> 01:22:35,890
John Hammond, who had helped
build the Benny Goodman band,
1091
01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:39,530
now charged that swing
had become too commercial,
1092
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,230
that it stifled freedom
and self-expression,
1093
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:48,200
took jazz in
the wrong direction.
1094
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,900
Giddins: There was
a pressure on even the best
of the jazz band leaders.
1095
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,640
Not all of them fell
to that pressure,
1096
01:22:53,780 --> 01:22:56,280
but Benny Goodman on
a typical recording session
1097
01:22:56,510 --> 01:22:58,480
would make two great
jazz instrumentals
1098
01:22:58,610 --> 01:23:00,950
and then two pop vocals
at the same session.
1099
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,520
So there was always this--
this pressure to be commercial,
1100
01:23:04,650 --> 01:23:07,250
to reach the popular audience,
1101
01:23:07,390 --> 01:23:10,060
to break the Glen Miller
barrier, as it were.
1102
01:23:10,290 --> 01:23:14,330
Man:
♪♪ drifting through the sky ♪♪
1103
01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:18,760
♪♪ while I wonder why my love ♪♪
1104
01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:25,370
♪♪ ever said good-bye ♪♪
1105
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:28,710
Narrator:
One snowy night in 1936,
1106
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:33,110
John Hammond grew tired of
listening to Benny Goodman
perform his familiar hits
1107
01:23:33,250 --> 01:23:34,950
at the congress hotel
in Chicago.
1108
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,850
Hammond went outside,
1109
01:23:36,980 --> 01:23:40,220
got into his car,
and turned on the radio,
1110
01:23:40,260 --> 01:23:43,890
hoping to hear something new,
something different,
1111
01:23:44,030 --> 01:23:48,390
something less predictable.
1112
01:23:48,630 --> 01:23:50,660
He came across
an experimental station
1113
01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:54,300
broadcasting live
from Kansas City.
1114
01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:56,700
Hammond:
It was 1:00 in the morning.
1115
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,370
The nightly broadcast
by the count basie band
1116
01:23:59,410 --> 01:24:01,370
from the Reno club
was just beginning.
1117
01:24:01,610 --> 01:24:05,240
[Jumpin' at the woodside
Playing]
1118
01:24:05,380 --> 01:24:21,260
Hammond:
I couldn't believe my ears.
1119
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,360
Narrator: John Hammond
now had a new mission:
1120
01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:28,270
To bring count basie
and the sound of Kansas City
1121
01:24:28,500 --> 01:28:38,164
to the rest of the country.
90214
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