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Yes, hot diggity dog.
It's 7:00 in Wimberley, Texas.
Toddy and Pooch are back the controls here at KWVH.
Tonight, well, we have something a little different.
In our endless search for get your feet to move,
and wagging the tail, we have a very special guest.
Very special, well, It doesn't even begin to cover it,
TRUE?
Our guest has won more Grammy Awards
of which I could tell: three for Best Album.
Two-time Hall Member of Rock and Roll Fame.
down in the valley
a talk show
It appears in front more than half
million people on multiple occasions.
a cambric shirt
rosemary and thyme
From New York, It's Saturday night!
With Paul Simon, who is one of the great performers of all time
on Saturday night live.
Once again, Paul Simรณn.
Once again, Paul Simรณn!
We will stay at the Pierre and
we will meet Jack and Angelica
and have a drink there.
And if you want to come, we would love to have you.
Act in a winning film
Oscar for Best Picture.
It's not a great deal.
It is simply relax, be very calm.
Fresco.
Do you remember we had that thing?
What thing?
And even more important that all that is
which is simply the best composer.
in music history American popular.
We love you, Pablo!
"I Know What I Know" from "Graceland."
I can't believe that I can say this.
Paul Simon join us today.
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Thanks, Todd. Thanks, Ben.
The composers, I mean, obviously, you in particular,
one of the things that I have always wondered,
You know, once you were writing your own material
and being successful in rock and roll whirlwind,
You know, I contacted you, how did you experience the music?
Or how are you still doing today?
so there is different... you know,
If your career is writing songs
and, uh, it's a race quite unusual.
I never thought that nothing was a risk.
I really didn't know what song it was on. to be a success and people used to say:
Oh, you've got your finger on the pulse.
And I would think, no, no I have my finger on the pulse.
I only have my finger outside and the pulse
run under him for the moment.
Your skills creative, it's a mystery
why it happens and How long does it last?
I love mystery.
I really love mystery.
Your process seems be something similar to mine,
that is, you gather a lot information and then...
That's exactly what is happening.
And then you say, what is the interesting story here?
- That's right. - Know?
How does the story begin?
That's always a question important when writing songs.
What is the sound I want here?
You know, it's like a old saying, guitarists
they spend half their life tuning his guitar.
and the other half out of tune.
so this little guitar...riff
It is a kind of base of the-
On January 15, 2019, I had a dream that said:
you are working on one piece called "Seven Psalms."
And a couple of years ago
that I didn't write anything,
I didn't feel like writing either.
nothing for a couple of years.
The dream was so strong
that I got up and wrote it.
"Seven Psalms, 15 January 2019".
But I had no idea what that meant.
But little by little it went information arriving, such as...
And I'd say, oh, okay, so Maybe that's there, you know.
Maybe this is there.
Let's play it again.
This is the opening of the registry.
I don't think you've heard this.
That's a whale bone.
I try all the time move things in
this type of flow puts you in a dream.
And I think that if you are willing to fall into a space
dreamlike, are you willing to stop judging.
You know, it's like a meditation.
The information that arrives It comes in a purer form.
And you can hear it and feel it clearer and more intense way.
How did you hear it a moment ago?
Well, it started out being very aware that you
you are here and the camera It's on, so...
I had to divide my thought between
music and was it a good interpretation?
or, you know, there is a trial in progress.
Now, will they be Are those cameras inhibitory, Paul?
I live with these cameras, Artie.
These cameras, do they ever Have you ever seen them inhibit me?
Such a different medium... such a different medium.
I forgot how much I trust the fact
that is: you can emit sounds without being seen.
You can create images without them seeing you.
That's how I-that's how It's how I write,
images but you don't see them, so that in a way you evoke images.
But these are photographs.
I write for several reasons.
I write some songs for the pleasure of writing a song.
It doesn't have any great meaning.
It's just a song.
The songs are beautiful.
People sing songs. children sing
songs all the time for the pleasure of singing.
In some songs you try express yourself emotionally.
Those are songs different for me.
And they express what I feel, and relieve...
Tensions that I feel when I express them.
But I don't think about communicate with anyone.
Growing up, I had like four idols.
Mickey Mantle, Kennedy, Lenny Bruce...
I was like a child very depressed, you know?
And I was seven or eight years old, and
really me exalted and came out of me...
...y Elvis Presley.
It didn't matter what they did. They fascinated me.
The name Elvis Presley was one of the strangest names.
ever heard.
You know, all that I knew were called,
you know, david Rothbaum or something like that.
I really don't know what kind of experience you have and all that.
Were you... were you... poor?
all the songs, at least in the last
album, which is... Isn't it number one?
Selling album in the country now or has it been?
I think it was.
- "Bridge over troubled waters"? - Yeah.
Uh, there's a lot to travel on rails and...
And all that kind of stuff.
Is that your experience?
Were you a poor child?
No, I was middle class.
Yeah?
I grew up here in New York and Queens.
This is my street, 70th Road.
This was considered almost like the field,
was very far from New York City.
It was the end of the subway line.
Number 62 was my house.
Upstairs was my bedroom.
Paul was the neighbor three blocks away,
who I met in sixth grade grade, so there were 11 of us.
and we were singing from the beginning.
We sang at my house and
we put things on the recorder.
we are starting to harmonize together.
We were elected together for the work Alice in Wonderland.
He was the White Rabbit and I was the Cheshire Cat.
And then, the next year, in high school, We were in the same class.
I saw him form his personality and becoming
who you chose to be, like he did with me.
He is a very unusual guy.
It always was, even when I was ten years old.
He was-he was-
You know, the first time I met him, he was
in a candy store which we used to go to.
after we left school.
And I came... and here There was this child,
And he was waving Good and Plenty boxes.
And finally, and I I was looking at him,
you know, because I was going to buy my Captain Marvel comic.
And I was shaking these Good and Plenty boxes,
and finally, the owner He threw him out of the store,
He said he had to get out.
And I told the guy: "Why did you kick him out?"
And he said, "He everyone comes here
time and shake these boxes to see
which one has more Good and Plenty, and
that's the one buy, you know. "
And now here are some guys who created one of
the best songs in The United States does not do much.
We used to listen to the Top 20 at Artie's house.
And I used to wear a graph of all
songs and we followed them week after week.
I loved that the songs They had numbers, you know?
These songs competed and they were calibrated.
And you could see that the song number seven of the week
passed jumped to the song number two this week.
Well, the math like that
of things came to me somehow.
Somehow I was trapped in that aspect as well as in music.
If you look at it now, you would say that he was obsessive-compulsive.
His handwriting... looks like a typewriter.
the end of times
my favorite group They were the Cleftones.
little, on-yes
"My girl."
"Can't we be boyfriend and girlfriend?"
what am I thinking
The Moonglows, que they did "Sincerely."
I liked the Penguins, "Angel of the Earth."
"Promising my love" by Johnny Ace.
I don't know, I know 15 or 20 occur where
I say I like them those records a lot.
In fact, they make me feel nostalgic and
bring to mind images of my neighborhood.
how to stand on the corner of this store
of sweets in which everyone was hanging out,
and in summer, we are in the patio
recess, imagine that schoolyard.
My culture was the radio.
It wasn't like he was singing the Queens music, you know?
We didn't have people sitting in
The porches of Queens singing,
you know, fables about how It was Queens in the old days.
There was nothing like that.
When I heard "Bye Bye Love" by the Everly brothers,
Immediately I fell in love with her.
The only store records was in Jamaica.
To get there there was to take two buses.
and took me about an hour
get to Jamaica to buy this album.
So I bought the record, I come back, I put it on.
I turn it around, I play the second
face and then I touch it again,
and I hit the record player, and the needle scratched.
I went back to the bus, I traveled Another hour, spent another dollar,
and I didn't have that many anymore, and buy the album again.
I couldn't stand that This was scratched.
I called Artie and told him I said: listen to this.
And we were just learning what harmony was.
Los Everly Brothers They sang in thirds.
Harmony was on top of the melodies.
That's Don singing.
Phil is singing...
Then we just practice. I sing like the Everly Brothers.
we had enough Everly brothers in our
minds to know how produce that harmony.
And we write together and we got jealous
of the artists who They recorded on the radio.
and we saw ourselves competing and We learned to do demonstrations.
you are mine
who-bop-a-loo-chi-bop
from the second row
whisper very low
who-bop-a-loo-chi-bop
"Hello schoolgirl", we write it when we were 15 years old.
We basically wrote it about our high school.
but there is one more thing
at four thirty
We would go to companies record labels and
we would just play the door, you know.
We would say that we wrote this song.
And, you know, in those days, the People were like, "Oh, really? Come on in."
When we were almost 16 years old, we had recorded this song
for a small company record label called Big Records.
That was in the Brill building,
1619 Broadway.
who-bop-a-loo-chi-bop
The record company put us the name of Tom and Jerry.
I was Jerry.
I have a lot to do
The album was a success.
It was presented at the American Bandstand de Dick Clark.
The children danced.
And then we went to The Dick
Clark Show con Jerry Lee Lewis.
I told them on American Bandstand
who came from Macon, Georgia.
I just left.
Where are you guys from?
Macon, Georgia.
He appeared with a southern accent
and was from Macon, Georgia.
I kept thinking, why not
Did you tell me you were going to do this?
I could see Artie, like, looking, like, what...?
"Where are you from?"
And he said, "Queens."
from school at 3:00
At that moment I I worked in a shoe store.
But after We went to the American Bandstand,
I came in and the boss, who couldn't
endure, he told me: "You're late."
I said, "No, no, I quit."
Even though my father was a bassist...
He led a band in Roseland for about 25 years.
It really wasn't encouraging about
to rock and roll roll as a career.
He thought it was music really stupid.
I said, "Why not Do you like this music?"
He said: "Because it is really stupid. "It's stupid."
I'd say, "Fool?"
"Earth angel."
Earth angel.
Do you see what I'm saying?
I thought that, for me, it was the first time
an ironic sense had entered my life.
in my life, "Angel of the Earth."
He said: "I understand. "I just think it's nonsense."
So we had fun listening some of the first songs.
Oh yeah, what was it? the one you liked?
night and I'm alone
I'm sitting at home
I... I forgot because complete and then I listened to it.
And I said, wow, my voice was very beautiful.
It was a sweet voice.
tonight
a lullaby
My dad was very happy for me to go to Queens College.
which was a free school.
I studied English literature.
And then I got a score very high in law boards
and I went to the Faculty of Brooklyn Law.
But really, from the beginning,
I just said, I don't know what I'm doing here.
I have never wanted to be something else that, you know,
singer and composer since I was 13 years old.
wherever they go
around you they have grown
to the bones
save your time
I started to go down the folk scene
de Village to Bleecker y MacDougal,
and that was really interesting.
That's the first time that I listened to Dylan.
I was singing music for adults.
who prophesy with your pen
the opportunity will not appear again
because the wheel keeps turning
who is naming
now it will be...
I started writing with guitar
acoustics and to find figurines, you know,
to play on acoustic guitar.
my old friend
with you again
I used to go to the bathroom my parents' house.
drag gently
There were tiles in the wall and turned on the water.
while I was sleeping
planted in my brain
And the tile echoed, and the water
it was like a sound of white noise.
I walked alone
I was going to a space which was a zone.
of cobblestones
of a streetlight
There is a very easy flow of creative energy.
by the explosion of a neon light
That thought a second ago
was not here and now I'm crying.
You know, how did that happen?
And how can I do it again?
they hear without listening
Thanks guys. We love your program.
- It's very fun. - Thank you, Edie.
- That's very good. - It was very fun.
We will do it again. We will do it again.
- Oh, yes, stop by whenever you want. - Yes, you know.
I am always here. You pass me by.
You see me at the window.
We are Wimberley people, so we will come back and...
We will return and we will do again.
This is really something incredibly pretty.
We are eager to hear what comes next,
You know, in your career.
Well, when it's Ready, I'll come and bring it to you.
We moved to Texas a few years ago.
And Edie grew up in Paris, Texas,
so your memories most precious are from country.
And she loved the stream.
He liked to walk through the streams.
Then he found a house in Hill Country, not far from Austin.
That was right in this one. really nice stream.
It's really quiet, really peaceful.
I thought, yeah, I'll be happy passing part of my time there.
I moved my studio recording there.
From the beginning from "Seven Psalms",
What I remember most it was playing
this beautiful motif guitar over and over again.
And every time I touched it,
I felt this feeling very good and moving.
And left any room in which he was and said:
"There it is again. That's the most beautiful guitar piece.
you have to do something with this. "
Maybe because this arose from a I dream, you know, I was patient.
I had... I had a lot patience with that.
I was starting to wake up two or three times a
week between 3:30 and 5:00 in the morning,
and the words would come.
I would write them.
And if I tried to add more... Like, oh, that's a good verse.
I'll write a second verse; would stop.
And I said, well, whatever this is, It's just yet to come.
He comes towards me and that's it.
I just have to wait.
And when it comes, write it down and start putting it together.
in the great migration
leaving the flock
about your destiny
on which I ride
face in the atmosphere
I slide and I slide
And then somehow last October,
I lost hearing in my ear left and it just went...
Towards the end of October,
I was... there was almost missing, you know?
It threw me off because my voice It didn't come from the same place.
I wasn't sitting here.
I was like sitting...
daylight edge
And then I started to think, You know, this whole piece...
It was actually...
something I had to deal with,
and maybe this audience It was part of the process.
And now it was going to be more difficult,
and maybe it was destined to be more difficult.
This is a journey that I must complete.
This entire piece is really an argument.
I'm having with me same about believing or not.
I think I have to do it... let me trace it wildly.
Well.
That's not going to work, is it?
I think it's a beautiful thing.
It is?
You know, it's not a thought that I really enjoyed it, you know.
I don't like to think, oh, This is the topic of this.
I like to work and then discover.
let me see if I want this investment.
People say, why do you always Do you want to change your sound?
I'm not thinking about that way at all.
I'm looking for the edge from what you can hear.
I can almost hear it, but not completely.
But that's what I want.
Now, how do you get there?
It's... it's a trip because is on the horizon.
And sometimes you find that you can
do something that It has magic, you know?
In 1964 I gave a demonstration from "The Sound of Silence."
It was just me.
It wasn't with Artie.
and through my connections in New York,
It was put to Tom Wilson,
who was a producer in Columbia Records, very good.
He also produced "Like a Rolling Stone" de Bob Dylan.
He recorded Blood, Sweat and Tears.
He recorded Laura Nyro.
Hugh Masekela recorded,
the Mothers of Invention,
the loving spoonful.
He made, I mean, hits.
And I said: "I sing this song with a friend of mine."
like a cancer
"Could we come in and audition for you?"
What could I teach you?
He said, "Yeah, sure."
So Artie and I We go in and sing it.
silently they fell
And they said they would sign us.
We were very excited because, really,
at that time it was not possible be in a more prestigious place
than Columbia Records.
Then there was a big debate about what our name would be
because there was a group called Art and Paul.
So Columbia was trying to find names and, they were horrible.
They were really horrible.
I mean, one of them They were the Rye Catchers.
That's how they saw us. It's like, these guys...
These guys are like Salingers.
Finally, the president from Columbia Records,
Goddard Lieberson, He intervened and said:
"No, his name should be Simon and Garfunkel."
Which, at the time, was quite radical to have ethnic names.
The people still Anglicized their names.
All Italians changed their names, you know,
Frankie Avalon, Bobby Rydell.
Bob Dylan changed his name.
So, that was a big deal.
Goddard Lieberson definitely I was making a statement with that.
And then we go in and we recorded our first album,
"Wednesday morning, 3 a.m."
the soft breathing
Well, we'll take it and we will cut in half.
Correct, also, when you get to "because the vision",
start swinging it a little.
I don't want to be so...
- Bueno. - ...be careful with that line.
- A little stronger too. - We're ready.
planted in my brain
The album came out and there it played
"The Sound of Silence".
but, "Wednesday tomorrow, 3 a.m." was a failure.
The album did not sell at all.
I was still in college of law at that time.
Meanwhile I came and went and came and went to England,
after my first visit there as a tourist.
I was going on vacation Christmas, spring.
And Art... was at school graduate at Columbia.
So, we were Like separate, you know.
By then I had already decided that he didn't want to be a lawyer.
I want to be a musician have lawyers
let them work for you when you need them.
Then, abandon the school was an easy decision,
and it was an easy decision to move to London, which I loved.
At some point in the life of all people,
not necessarily at a specific age,
Um, you're surprised by the feeling
that things escape you.
And you try to grab them.
I wrote this song
I won't have them for long
I started to play, These were not clubs.
like the clubs in New York.
They were a room above a pub.
There may be a microphone, or maybe not.
Gracias.
This woman, Judith Piepe... She was a refugee from Germany.
His father was a communist.
She was Jewish.
He fled during the war and converted to the Anglican Church.
He came to all the places in which I sang.
The priest with whom I did my training once said:
"If you want to help people,
you have to love them. If you can't love them, don't do it.
Don't try to help them.
If you don't love them, they can't forgive you for the bread you give them."
He lived in the East End of London,
next to the docks, very hard.
She lived in, you know, an apartment,
a tiny apartment, had a room, and let me stay there.
I had a small program five minute BBC radio.
called "Five to Ten", which is It broadcast between ten to five.
And it was five minutes, and he spoke, You know, it was a little while ago.
This song by Paul Simon
It's almost a description isolation clinic.
And then she put one of my songs.
sometimes I write songs
and after finishing them and reproduce them,
the degree horrifies me of neuroses that I possess.
This is one of those songs.
A kind of therapy group without the group involved.
and dark
I don't usually sing songs against war.
for the simple reason that
if at this point there are someone who is not convinced
of the absurdity of a war, huh,
I don't think they will change opinion for a song.
When I came to England last year,
It wasn't so much about coming to England, like a departure from New York.
And then when I returned to house in September 64,
I discovered that the same complexes that I had in New York,
I immediately returned to them. They were still there.
And I found myself thinking increasingly in England
and in relationships that he had formed.
Kathy Chitty was my girlfriend.
And I met her in the Brentwood Folk Club door
collecting the money people paid to enter.
TAPE RECORDING FOR KATHY CHITTY September 1964
Regarding your letter yesterday...
I'm going to put away my cigarette.
As soon as your letter arrives
I received it yesterday and it ruined my day
because it was such a short letter
wait a second, I have to find another cigarette.
Well.
Artie's not here. I don't know where it is.
He told me he would come, but he left with his motorcycle
to register it.
I guess it will come back whenever.
That tape is interesting.
That was during time when he came and went.
I was back in my parents' house.
And it just arrived.
It was two desperate hours to register
and he was almost arrested for threatening someone
Are you going to say something for her?
You know, I can never talk.
I get stuck on a stage, I can't speak into a microphone.
In this tape, I want to put two new songs.
One of them is the what I wrote about you.
of the rain
rain soaked streets
During this entire period while you come and go,
I became interested in this album "Songbook" that has a photo of you and Kathy.
- Yes, on the cover. - Yes, but it's you.
- No son Simon y Garfunkel. - No.
I can't believe
and they try to rhyme
I wasn't even debating whether to go
to be a soloist because He lived in England.
Playing in clubs folkloric, doing it alone.
and the experiment with Artie singing
It was, at that time, a failure.
I have come to doubt
once I considered it true
what I know is you
It was simply a single period of freedom.
You know, I loved it. I was 23,
24 years old, no responsibilities.
and here I am doing exactly what I want to do.
your grace I go
It shouldn't be like this. I can play that better
and relate it to what is happening. - Bueno.
- It was ok? - Yes, the last one was great.
- Okay, then play that. - Yeah.
I know I have more control over it, so...
a rose and a thorn
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It's good to see you, darling.
Yes, how are you?
Good good. No complaints.
- Are you? - Yeah.
Thanks for coming.
Man, come on, you know.
Where are you? I'll walk to Hawaii for you.
You tell me.
So... what are we talking about?
Where are we with the "Psalms"?
Do you want to play it everything from start to finish?
Put it all in. Yes, don't stop.
We won't stop. Well, well.
Paul and I talked about "Seven Psalms" just as an idea
before he started to work on it, you know?
We were talking about the Bible.
we were talking of a tradition
mystique of the song of a troubadour,
the meaning mystic of seven.
You know, in the seventh day, the Lord rested.
the great migration
We met years ago.
We did a benefit. This was in 2002.
I made a terrible arrangement from "I'll Take Manhattan."
It was not a musical experience particularly good for me.
Man, it was...
Although he appeared very calm about it.
He sang and did his thing, but I didn't help him.
One two three.
So we didn't become friends.
we became friends when he asked me to do
a fundraiser for Jazz at Lincoln Center.
After that, we start to collaborate through the years.
In a way you reinvented that song on the album In the Blue Light.
"Pigs, sheep and wolves", yes.
Like an arranger,
you always want to try to do what someone wants you to do.
And with this, it was as if It was something from New Orleans.
pork
Playing music is something so spiritual
that when you play with someone,
most things They don't talk, you know?
You are listening to it.
a couple of rodents
nibbling on a clover
I really pay attention to what it says musically.
And I often think that when I'm working
in something and I'm changing a voice or something like that,
"Would Wynton like this?"
for the behavior
Eh.
When I had the chance to really talk to him
and we sat outside from the context of music,
- We had a lot to talk about. - Like what?
Man, like being divorced,
have children, not be married,
race relations in the United States,
New Orleans and New York,
Elvis Presley and rock and roll, black and white, politics,
ayahuasca, south american music,
integrating with others cultures and their music, being left-handed,
be at your father's rehearsal where you don't want to be,
how to pay tribute to a generation before you,
the address that will take our country.
What level of participation must
have the artists with the political issues?
What is it like to travel?
What do you learn from musicians from other cultures?
What is needed for write a song?
What do you think of baroque music?
What is the position of Bach versus the Beethoven's position in European music?
How much music did you write? Duke Ellington in 1962?
What was it like when they killed to Goodman in Mississippi?
African American music and Anglo-Celtic music,
where are they found?
It goes on and on, man, and not everyone agrees.
That's what makes it so good.
No friction, you have no movement.
The universe was created with an explosion.
And, man, that friction arose everything.
His music is always about that.
About a year After its launch in 1965,
radio stations They were starting to receive requests.
for "The Sound of Silence."
So while I was in England,
Tom Wilson returned to studio and overdubbed
tools electrical and batteries.
to the acoustic version with the same
musicians he used in the dylan sessions
when Dylan went electric.
They sent it to me, I listened and said, okay.
Did you, or was it you, was it you initially?
Weren't you upset at first?
No, no, I wasn't upset.
What's up with Tom Wilson is that, when he suggested something,
you thought it was good because it was very cool.
It was like, yeah, try it. again, great.
What do I have to lose?
sound of silence
I walked alone
of cobblestones
of a streetlight
the cold and humidity
and began to become a success.
by the flash of a neon light
The record continued to rise.
And Columbia wanted it will return to the US.
And a week after my return, it reached number one.
And I said to myself, my life has changed irrevocably.
they hear without listening
like a cancer
What could I teach you?
Your music has become omnipresent everywhere.
It's in elevators. It's in the supermarkets.
Now how do you react when you hear it in an elevator?
and he does it... - I love it in an elevator.
...Milwaukee Strings or anyone?
That...
I like it in the elevator. Really I do it. I'm not kidding.
I like to listen to it there.
The funniest thing about listen to your music
It's when you walk down the street,
and you hear someone hum it
walking in the opposite direction.
- Yes. Yes. - That's a tremendous emotion.
In reality, it is a privilege, you know, to be...
be in a position where people like what you do
and accept what you do, uh, up to that point.
It's a privilege.
If the pure protest song
They never had great commercial success in the field of pop song,
a group of folk singers rock known collectively
How did they do it Simon? and Garfunkel with a guy
different from comment about society.
Paul Simon, team composer,
and Art Garfunkel, arranger vocal e instrumental,
They are creators of songs in a real sense
under the interpretation and packaging.
their own musical compositions.
I want the sound be like the one you put
it's like you have a bag of hops...
What is the name of that material you wrap? How do I eat flour in large boxes of flour?
And it should be like...
a knife cuts it and then the flour spills out.
These are songs popular such as
are listened to and known to the public.
through disks and personal actions.
How are they made?
What does creation entail? from a popular song?
Can you hold it for a second?
I just want to record this so you can hear it.
One, two, three, two.
After "Sound of Silence" was a success,
we go in and record the songs.
what I had written when I was in England.
Paul has his hands full writing the songs. Am...
I rarely do anything more than react to lyrics and music
What occurs to Paul, although occasionally
I prefer a change lyrics because I'm...
because I'm thinking about the harmony that I want to use,
and I know that a change melodic will suit me better.
I was on a kick existential for a while.
I wrote a song called "Patterns".
I worried about the fact that our lives
were divided in so many patterns
about which we had no control.
The color of your skin, the fact What do you die from, what is your name.
That song must produce in the listener
a feeling of involvement and then a catharsis.
Tom Wilson left Columbia and went to MGM.
Then Roy Halee He became our engineer.
- You're recording. - Let's go.
One, two, one, two, three.
And since then stayed with us.
Roy, Artie and me we made those records.
I had that artistic temperament.
You know, Roy could take a control room and do it right.
He was just a technician super qualified.
which also had a great ear, you know?
Roy was a wonderful engineer I thought about sounds
at the time when it began to listen to the songs.
and so it became co-producer because he did
more than simply make clean recordings.
He made creative sound collages.
I think of him as the third member of our triumvirate.
You know, we're workaholics.
We are shooting on the 11th.
I was forced to do So many takes, you know?
This is with the fingers now.
Good.
I would say, how was that? That's a good one.
He said, "It is. It's good. โItโsโฆitโs good.โ
I was like, "Well, isn't that good?"
Oh, no, no, no, it's a little out of tune.
but really nothing you couldn't...
Okay, I'll do it again.
I made a mistake. Come on to try again.
What happened? - I made a mistake.
- Vocally? - Deep breathing.
Let's see what this is.
To my surprise, I didn't even know that these things still existed.
I thought they had lost these things.
No, they have the "Bridge" multitracks.
It's quite surprising that this still exists.
Roy, he truly was an innovator.
We keep falling into adventures and discoveries.
"Cecilia" was just a clue rhythmic, approximately
one minute and 15 seconds, and it looped.
We literally went for a loop tape with two or three machines,
and we keep giving round and round.
breaking the heart
The vocal sound of Simon y Garfunkel...
Roy invented that, you know?
I'm on my knees
We both sang in a microphone close enough
from each other so that We could really mingle.
Let's take another one.
Play me a little and I'll take the tempo again.
I would capture that mix a couple of times...
my confidence daily
...have multiple tracks which combined into the mix.
that you come home
my confidence daily
As soon as you heard That, it was like, there it is.
I'm on my knees
that you come home
In "The Boxer", that's the drum
that Roy recorded in the elevator shaft.
They were probably eight floors that they placed
the drummer in the background of the elevator shaft.
lie-la-lie
lie-la-lie
The horns and things that come at the end,
They were recorded in San Pablo.
"The Only Living Boy in New York", the harmonies,
we overdubbed them seven times inside an echo chamber.
in New York
in New York
When we were working on "Bridge over troubled waters",
the song, we spend two or three days arranging the piano part.
We add the bass, the strings and the drums.
And Roy was the first to carry two 8-track machines
and synchronize them and record them on 16 tracks.
But one day, when I came in, He told me: "Listen to this.
You won't believe it what happened here "
The two machines were slightly out of sync.
So for the battery...
...instead of listening...
Did you hear...
over troubled waters
That rhythmic rhythm that was at end was an accident that he heard
and like any good musician, he knew,
"Ah, I can take advantage of this accident."
This is great.
I was very excited.
Okay, I'm going to record this now so that You hear it when he calls again.
We will continue playing it so you can have your ideas.
Move your chair a little, I want to be more focused
Well now you will be more focused
How did you get involved? en The Graduate?
How did the idea come about?
Mike Nichols called.
And then I was in the middle of the movie.
It was almost finished and we convinced to make the music.
And the music was supposed to be, mostly original music.
snow covered ground
a true love of mine
I started working on it and,
a few months later, Mike said:
"You know, we've been using your music as a temporary track,
but it's so good that I think we really want
keep it in movie as is. "
ripe and grown with the rain
Listen to me.
I am the brother of Dr. Smith, Reverend Smith.
and I'm supposed to I must perform the ceremony.
I just got back from Portland and I forgot which church, see?
Oh well, I'm not sure,
but you could try the First Presbyterian.
- That's on Allen Street. - Gracias.
Allen Street, where is it?
Allen, eh, it, eh...
The only new song The one he picked up was "Mrs. Robinson."
that was incomplete at the time of filming.
Do you need gas, father?
La "Mrs. Robinson" It was invented on the spot.
Originally if I assumed it was a...
That was a chase scene. and they wanted guitar music.
And I was playing, huh...
Oh, it didn't taste like what was playing.
I was just doing riffs with the guitar, and I...
I was doing this.
And I had been fooling around with a song that was, uh...
I was singing...
usted, Mrs. Robinson
of what you will know
Without any specific reason. I didn't have anything in mind.
Did that just occur to you?
Yeah, boy, just in my head.
And then the next line was...
favor, Sra. Roosevelt
for those who pray
It was Mrs. Roosevelt,
and then he said, uh, well, We could just...
That would change a lot movie plot, right?
Yeah.
Since there was nothing but that chorus and no lyrics,
and we invented it in the act, we sing, uh, uh...
dee-dee-dee
dee-dee-dee-dee, dee-dee-dee
usted, Mrs. Robinson
of what you will know
smile at those who pray
We had a small stand and we watched.
And, like, when the car slows down,
I'm playing live to see the image.
I came across Mel Brooks the other day.
Yeah.
He said he had no idea how miserable that that song had made his life.
Oh really.
- Yeah. -His wife is Annie Bancroft.
That's right, his wife, right.
ยกElaine!
- ยกElaine! - I'll take care of him.
It's already too late.
So wherever what they were, is...
Yeah.
usted, Mrs. Robinson
of what you will know
favor, Mrs. Robinson
for those who pray
where no one ever goes
with your cupcakes
just the Robinson thing
hide it from the children
How did Joe DiMaggio get there?
Was he playing the ball with the lady
Roosevelt in your mind or something or...?
It is very pleasant to write in a stream of consciousness style.
And very often you find that what you have in mind is relevant,
although for him moment it doesn't seem like it.
And while I was writing, uh, I had no idea he would say that,
but I said, "Where Have you been, Joe DiMaggio?
A nation returns to you his lonely eyes. "
And then the next line, not the I had one, but I invented one and put it on.
And then I asked myself What did it mean?
And I said, well, it means something.
It will mean something.
dice, Mrs. Robinson?
hey, hey, hey, hey
"Dear Art and Paul, please consider
this is your invitation official to appear.
at the International Festival by Monterey Pop
on one of the nights on June 16, 17 or 18.
As described, will act free of charge.
On the other hand, any transport expense
and related accommodation with your assistance
will be borne by the festival commission.
Sincerely, Festival International Pop of Monterey. "
you move too fast
may the morning last
knocking down the cobblestones
and feel great
In Monterey Pop we went one of the great acts
and we closed the first night.
But we were never part of none of the movements.
We were not known as political people.
We were not known like drug traffickers.
There were quite a few reviews that thought
that we were very square and cheesy.
feeling great
Monterey is so cool, man.
This is something, man. This is our generation, man.
All of you, we are all together, man.
It's great, so look into it yourself.
None of the acts Americans
it looked nothing like to English acts.
Nobody, not even Grateful Dead, ni Janis Joplin.
Most of the people were hippies.
Nobody had ever seen nothing like The Who,
you know, destroying their guitars.
I mean, I was ashamed.
I used to think, God, when I was a child,
I had to save a lot to buy me a guitar.
Do you know you're going to destroy it?
Hendrix, I don't know if the fire was part of your act all the time or not,
but things were going getting wilder.
And we felt that we should start expressing
what i felt our generation.
she was sleeping
and I don't know why
New Jersey Turnpike
birthday is coming Beethoven number 200.
- Did you know that...? - No.
1970 is 200 years.
Soon the someone else's 200th birthday.
- 200th birthday? - Yeah.
-Who is that? - USA.
Do you think it will arrive?
They offered us a special with ATandT as sponsor
and we decided that the program I would have a political idea.
and I don't know why
We didn't go in there looking for a fight.
We thought that we were expressing
the simple truth of what is happening.
looking for America
As obvious as it is that we shouldn't
be in vietnam or as obvious as it is
that people die of hunger in this country,
until they stop the war, until they feed the people,
It is a function of the people point it out
and remind us continually.
But in reality, it only one I remember
that's what naive that we were.
that we thought that everyone was liberal.
However, I think that much of what we say,
of what we say, yeah not everything we say,
It's extremely obvious.
During "Bridge Over troubled waters",
which was the first time it was reproduced somewhere,
we show images of Kennedy, the train and Bobby,
and images of Martin Luther King.
And the producer said, "You can't just stay with those three."
And we said, "Why?"
And they said, "Well, "They are all democrats."
And we were like, โReally?
We think that everyone they were killed. "
over troubled waters
Why am I going to make this album?
What is the goal of this album?
The world is falling apart.
Chaos, what the hell is all this about?
time has changed all those songs,
also from a very interesting way.
You turn all this over and look at it from a different perspective.
Like "Bridge over troubled waters."
that became something more than a pop song.
are on the way
- -
you need a friend
of the darkness,
beautiful song
and sing for everyone
reflect on the code
In the word "cold", It's a G chord.
It's "code", C... - ยก"Code"!
"Reflect on the code of forgiveness. "
Code is code is Absolutely crucial to...
Oh, absolutely, It is a digital code.
I understand.
...to what is happening in that verse.
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes.
It's reflecting, reflecting about the code of forgiveness.
Bueno.
Bueno.
doors are not closed
I feel that probably we could have done it,
"And I, the last in the line, waiting
that the doors do not close
before your forgiveness. "
There's something about loneliness
of the only instrument because there's the guy
he's just the last one in line.
There's something... you know, there's something
There is a small void there... that can happen.
- Let's play... - That's very good.
...and see what that does.
Okay, wait.
Can you touch? when you touch this, don't make it pretty.
of beats and out
in the last parade
What is happening with the song is just a debate, you know?
"Oh, okay, I guess. Oh, I don't know.
Maybe I don't believe it. No... "
in the waters of heaven
in the waters of heaven
in a drop of condensation
I was sitting next to him and
He sang it all, like in my ear.
It was very smooth.
And then I could hear it, the symbolism.
How the limitation of your belief always
tends to be linked to your conception
of your mortality in the sense of that you are part of the flow of a thing.
It's a dawn and it's a sunset, transfiguration.
I'm still not sure of what I want.
relieves pain
of beats and out
in the waters of heaven
One more time.
One more time.
It has been a very year strange because it happened
very hastily starting in October.
until early November, boom.
- Scary. - He's gone.
But I kept thinking, oh, okay.
He'll come back and I'll do this.
I will do that. I'll see the doctors.
Do you have the one inside?
It goes here and then it goes here.
- Well. - It's on both sides.
Yeah.
It's a... It's an aid in conversation, but it doesn't help at all in music.
For music, interesting.
It's real...tiny.
I don't know, suddenly, you know,
I said, oh, this is not coming back.
and I really fell in a depression.
And finally when I arrived at the bottom of depression,
I said, you better get up go to bed and exercise, you know?
I was able to write with these two small Bose speakers.
connected to my computer.
If I put my head here, I could still...
I just have to solve how to sing,
and I can't... yet I haven't solved it.
from the darkness, searching
beautiful song
No, that's all.
we will have to We'll deal with that another day.
Once I I put these headphones on,
all the distortion what's in the damage,
whatever there is caused that damage,
I can't get rid of it. It is amplified.
When it first happened,
I was working with a kinesiologist
who had a friend who was a neuroscientist.
And he invented this team, which is...
you put it on your tongue because It is closer to the brain.
And stimulate your tongue electrically,
which stimulates amygdala and your brain.
And then I'd be listening with headphones these hearing tests.
so really I was concentrating
at the frequencies that They had disappeared.
And when you meditated, one of the meditations
What he said was: "Choose your favorite moments."
from when you were young and, you know,
You were in perfect health and all that. and you really focused on that.
and get that memory in your head.
And every time you start to get depressed or something like that,
click again in that memory.
when you feel that you enjoy perfect health and you can run very fast,
you could do everything. "
Once you accept the condition as something
more than a detriment but as information
What do you have to solve? then you can use it.
Especially because this whole album
deals with themes spiritual, I said:
Maybe this, you know, It wasn't supposed to be this easy.
Maybe it's supposed that you have an obstacle
that gives you more idea of what you are saying.
And you do it for 20 minutes.
Basically, what He said it was, eh, with him...
with him... with the brain... you know it with your body,
but the brain is the same.
Use it or lose it.
As Wynton told me: "Hey, Beethoven took a while
ten years in get used to it and find out."
He said: "Well, now you know, it's out of tune.
I said, man, but that does it even more moving and beautiful.
You should leave all that there. "
But I know he won't do that.
Or maybe you leave a couple of them there.
on which I ride
He said, "I know this is going to be difficult for you, but listen,
just listening to you is like a kind of fight."
with a note to reach him
It is very interesting and very moving in itself.
Said, "I know you'll listen a note that will be out of tune.
"You're going to want to fix it."
He said, "Don't do it."
for the poorest
welcome to the stranger
Of course, I don't I pay attention at all.
But I understand What is he saying?
I wasn't saying: "Don't sing in tune."
He was saying: "Leave the fight there."
That's part of the story.
rising of the oceans
terrible and fast sword
Do you find the need to share musical ideas with someone?
Because, I mean, obviously, I don't know. How you used to work with Artie Garfunkel,
If you did, how close was the writing association actually.
Well, we weren't one writers society.
Not us, not me, We don't write together.
So was it always your song, his song, your song?
No, he never... he didn't write none of the songs.
He didn't write anything... I don't mean... I feel weird.
Did not write any of the songs.
I wrote all the songs by Simon and Garfunkel.
Hmm. Yeah.
No, I didn't need a writing partner,
but, uh, your question about, do I find it useful?
Exchange ideas musicals with people? Yeah.
- Oh, we're in the... - Lift me up.
- We stayed in the room. -
We are still in the fourth chord, but...
Well, as for the melody, stay on that higher note.
- Bueno. - Go down there.
That sounds like something to me.
Very well, then stay, Start with the lowest notes.
No, no, let me hear the chords first, before entering the note.
You sing it and you get both parts in my head, and then I will learn it.
we had a unequal association because
I was writing all the songs.
and basically run the sessions because I would say,
"This is how it goes, and this It's the guitar part,
and this is all, and you should play it on the drums.
No, the bass should do this. "
And Artie would be in the control room with Roy.
And he'd say, "Yeah, that's good."
Let's do it, you know. "
But it was a unequal balance of power.
There are times when I am
singing one of the Paul songs.
I feel that the song It's really very personal.
and probably shouldn't be sung by no one
apart from the writer, but there are others
songs that go beyond a person.
Which is part of the reason. why Mike Nichols,
after "The Graduate", he told her:
"It will be better for him group if you convert
into a movie star, and Paul is the writer.
It will... It will be more balanced.
So they hired him to make "Catch-22."
So he wasn't there for half from "Bridge Over Troubled Waters."
You are crazy. You are all crazy.
Why are we crazy?
Because you don't know how to stay alive.
That is the secret of life.
But we have a war to win.
Ah, but States United will lose the war.
- No. - Italy will win.
United States is the strongest nation on Earth.
The American fighter He is the best trained,
the best equipped and the best fed.
plane just in time
in New York
"The only living child in New York," I mean, it's...
It's like a song of "good luck to you."
- GOOD. - My best wishes, you know?
the news I need
do today, more than smile
in New York
sometimes we leave
We were really best friends
to "Bridge Over Troubled Water".
We had traveled a lot together and we were so forced
to be together thank you to the power of business,
began to affect our friendship, which was always true.
It started to be abrasive to see each other forced to be together and on tour.
Artie said, "Yeah, the way in which it will be so it is,
I'm going to make movies during six months and then I'll be back.
You will have written the songs and we'll do, you know, the album. "
And I thought, yes, actually, no, that's not going to happen.
I'm not going to do that.
But wasn't that already how it was? working anyway?
No, but always we were together.
UH Huh.
You know, I would say, "Oh, I wrote a new song."
It wasn't as if would come back and say:
"What is the collection of songs that
you wrote during these last six months?"
While writing a song,
I said, "Hey, do you know What do you think of this?"
You know, the main thing that We were interested, we shared it.
If I'm going to wait three or four months for records to be recorded,
I can also do many things with that time.
and when I received the offer to go down
and make a little cameo in "Catch-22",
I considered it like five or six weeks maximum.
Then I will go to Mexico and I will do this.
I didn't think I was going to be a problem.
What did become then in a problem
is that they had me down there for a long time.
"The movie is over. "You have to go back."
"No, we can't because we have to shoot this week in Mexico."
And then: "Send what you did and let me listen.
No, that's not good. Have to change this and this. "
It was as if everything would have been altered.
It was a recipe for breakup of Simon and Garfunkel.
And here it goes.
I didn't have the harmony of friendship.
That was broken.
"Bridge over troubled waters,"
when we used to play it on stage,
Artie sang the song and people jumped.
He received a great ovation, you know?
And my reaction was: I wrote that song.
Am I the one who broke Simon and Garfunkel, or was it Paul who failed?
to accommodate the enrichment of his own career by Garfunkel?
Two people are needed to form a group.
Two people are needed to be idiots.
they get difficult
can find friends
Or maybe it was my perfect trauma
freudian what my mother once told me:
"You have a good voice, Paul,
but Arthur has an excellent voice."
This is my oldest friend.
And we experience anonymity and then great fame and success.
And those things have his own pressure.
It was five years intense to be a success,
and that is close to duration of his life.
I used to think when it was over "Bridge Over Troubled Water", well,
we really are too much on top of each other,
and the fat in the machinery is not there,
and it is screeching, and we A rest would be nice.
And certainly I I would love to rest a little.
But after a break, I see a wonderful upcoming album.
He didn't see it that way.
I couldn't get over that.
you move too fast
may the morning last
knocking down the cobblestones
That was a good friendship.
That was really the first
someone's friendship that got it for me.
feeling great
Become a person who I hope I never see you again...
that's a long way.
the, the, the, the, the, the
ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba
How does this room sound?
It has a pretty good sound... Pretty good out there.
Wow, it's really interesting.
- Do you want to try the same thing again? - Yeah.
I have a very good hunch about Voices8.
Talk to the composer from that group was interesting.
He said that there are certain sounds I chose
and I thought that we could underline.
Let's hear that.
He imagined coloring them with his instrument, which has eight voices.
Well, and here.
In the New Folk scene York, in the early days,
You know, when Simon and Garfunkel we were just together,
I was friends with some people who were important figures in it,
Especially Dave Van Ronk, I'm thinking.
Your record collection It was full of music
really interesting from all over the world.
That music album from Bulgaria, well,
It was like a success cult in the 60s.
You know, that's when I heard it for the first time.
It's a recorded chorus in the 50s.
It's so beautiful that you will fall apart
And they do it... they do it all the time Now, that second minor pass.
Let's see what happens if We tried to go to Voices of Bulgaria.
Hello gorgeous.
Sounds good.
Isn't it? - Yeah.
They just gave me some headphones for
be able to hear everyone your comments.
Paul has a way of looking everyday life and make it poetic.
And it doesn't make a caricature to express yourself,
but that too makes him vulnerable.
I think sometimes that has made them misunderstand.
At the beginning, when I started go out with him, someone warned me.
They said: Don't go out with him. "He's arrogant."
And I said, "Well, you... how do you know?
If you don't know him. It seems normal. "
It's what it is person had read.
And in terms of Art Garfunkel,
they made it look like Paul had victimized him or...
unlike the truth,
that the boy walked away to continue a different type of career.
- Good. - Everyone looked at him like,
oh no, paul went to do Paul,
but that's not what happened.
I went to Artie and said: "Are you making another movie?"
We just finished the album. We hadn't been on tour with him.
we had not done nothing with it.
And he said, "Yes, I'm doing Mike's next movie.
It is called "Carnal Knowledge."
And I said, "Well, why Why didn't you tell me?"
And he said, "I thought that you wouldn't finish
'Bridge over turbulent waters'
If I told you, so I decided not to tell you."
And I think that was really the last straw. It broke the camel's back for the record deal.
I don't see myself doing this within five years.
I... I talk about everything the spiritual sphere,
All that... all that aspect of my life.
All this... this entertaining...
It has nothing to do with that.
Like I said, I was telling you I didn't see how Art could...
How can you leave someone What makes you sound so good?
of the cathedral
Wouldn't you realize What are you working with...?
Well, he didn't know I quit.
I didn't say, "I quit."
And I left it.
All this experience, the tension in the studio,
If this was how the relationship was going to be,
For me it was like, well, I don't want to be in that.
So I went to Clive Davis, who was the director
by Columbia Records at that moment, and I told him:
"I leave Simon and Garfunkel.
"I'm going to make a solo album."
Clive said: "You are committing the biggest mistake of your life.
Simon and Garfunkel is a name
well known throughout the world.
It's a huge business and dividing it
It's just a big mistake."
were you trying to prove something or
you were just tired of the relationship?
No, no, I wasn't trying to prove anything.
I was consumed by writing music and making records.
And my wife Peggy said: "Hey, you write the songs.
What should you worry about?"
And that's how I started my solo career.
One of the things I could leave
it was the obligation to write a song for a duet.
That was liberating.
And in "Bridge over troubled waters",
I was already making the album with a broader palette of sounds.
I heard this group, Los Incas, and They played this song, "El Cรณndor Pasa."
a peruvian popular song very famous that I loved.
I said, "Why don't we buy that one?" song and I write a song for him?"
we will not be able play that track.
It's already perfect.
sparrow than a snail
That's really the first time
I make music of the world, you know?
hammer than a nail
If you really want a certain sound,
you have to go to people to play that sound.
You can't ask someone to write in someone else's handwriting.
Whenever there will be a fierce outbreak of ska.
And ska is the new beat of the West Indies, Jamaica.
Ska was very important in '63 and '64 in England.
I always liked the happy music.
So when I did the first solo album
and I was trying make a ska album,
I understood if I wanted get that sound,
I must go to Jamaica.
My favorite album on that time it was a song called
"Vietnam" de Jimmy Cliff.
So I contacted with the producer of that album
and I asked him if I could go to Jamaica and record.
And he said yes, and he prepared it.
And I went down with this one partially written song.
And I told the musicians: "Here's my song.
"I want to make a ska album."
They said, "Well, We don't play ska."
And I said, "Well, what do you mean...?
What do you mean Why don't you play ska?
And they said, "You know, It's reggae, man."
raise your head
for your wedding day
Then I said, โReally? What is reggae?
I've never heard of reggae. "
That band turned out to be Toots and the Maytals.
Then they played. I said, well, that's great.
Well, let's make it reggae.
false hopes
between mother and son
away
it works that way
of a lifetime
false hopes, no
between mother and son
away
The reason why I go to these places
is that you can count the story of a song
with any context, you know.
So the context could be Peruvian.
The context could be reggae.
I was counting the same stories that, you know...
a love story, a marriage.
false hopes
This is really how these things evolve.
I continued meeting musicians from different parts of the world.
I heard something that I really liked
and then I went to find out what it was and where it was.
and it was just a very interesting path.
roads and over the seas
the same path
On an artistic level, really I was always growing and alive.
and looking for space to express who I am.
I wanted to find another area of โโexpression
in addition to simply make albums.
Live from New York, It's Saturday night!
NBC Saturday Night.
We will be back.
We'll be back in a moment with a...
Oh my god.
Very sorry. The number of bees is cut.
That?
Oh, geez.
It didn't work last week. It's cut. I'm sorry.
Well.
Very badly.
I didn't want it for the first show Because I didn't know how it would turn out.
But I thought it would be good for the second show.
Comedy... that's all rhythm and timing,
so for the musicians it's easy to connect.
We had the summer to work on that program.
And he was working all the time summer in Still Crazy, you know?
So, I went to the studio and we met for dinner,
or had a place not Bridgehampton,
and one weekend I went out.
We arrived there at night.
And we talked, you know... late.
Here's a song on the one I'm working on.
I haven't finished it. I'll show you.
I will go up to the point where I have stopped.
Bueno.
my old lover on the street
to see that I only smile
some old times
of all these years
after all these years
We were always talking about what we would do in your program.
I thought: I'm going to open it dry with him singing "Still Crazy."
my window and I look at the cars
one day I will do some damage
of all these years
Many people didn't recognize him.
He rarely appears on television.
Very few rock people and roll appeared on TV
because the sound was very bad.
From news headquarters Saturday night,
this is the final update of the week with Chevy Chase.
The big news on the horizon sporty is, of course,
the face to face confrontation
con Connie Hawkins of the Atlanta Hawks
y Paul Simon, acoustic guitarist.
For a report from the field, Let's go now to Marv Albert.
I'm Marv Albert, and in a moment, the face to face confrontation
close between El Halcรณn,
Connie Hawkins, former Harlem globetrotter,
one of the most players interesting from the NBA,
as a member of the Atlanta Hawks.
And Paul Simon will oppose The Hawk.
Paul, what's your plan game for The Hawk?
Well, I see one 1'4" height advantage.
And I have to be honest, that will be a factor in this game.
He dominates me speed and shooting ability,
but I just have to play my game Like... like I normally do,
And I mean, I have I keep my points
strong, basically, sing and write songs.
rolled out of bed
I can't play basketball.
If you make me one individual photos,
It seems that I can perform a jump shot.
And you see it enter.
You say, oh, he could play basketball.
He must have taken me as an hour and a half score 10.
I mean I could stand next to it from the basket with no one around me.
and I try to make a tray, and I won't.
days come and take me
let the story leak
comes to set me free
Newsweek cover
time, but I don't know where
the queen of Corona
in the school yard
in the school yard
I walked alone
of cobblestones
of a streetlight
the cold and humidity
stabbed by the...
Chuck, don't even you know the lyrics.
Well, I really am... I am. learning as we go.
Chuck, this is live television.
This is not the time of being learning.
How do you think I feel? I mean, I feel terrible.
It's terrible to say that now, right?
I mean, I've come all this way. It was $3,000.
That was the deal.
I understand, but I want to say, It was just one of those confusions.
I mean, it is generally, I mean...
I understand that the offer initial was 3,000.
- Hello George. - Hello Paul.
- Hello, Lorne. - We better get started.
Lorne got George as a guest
musical because I was the host.
In the future, you know...
I know, I mean, but if you don't...
If you don't continue tonight, If you don't continue tonight,
It will break your heart. I mean, it must be...
Look, I thought that you would understand that if they were,
you know, 3,000 dollars for four people,
which would only cost $750 for one.
As far as I'm concerned, you could stay
with the 3,000 dollars complete. It's the network.
Well, $750 is pretty cheap.
So George and I had a day
test for record the songs.
You know, we had the same taste in early rock and roll.
I liked where George thought.
It was more mystical and was willing
to dedicate yourself to that kind of thing.
Ladies and gentlemen, my friend George Harrison.
Tonight we will talk with Mr. Paul Simon.
He is head of the chapter from the east coast
of the Truckers Association Independents of America.
And, Mr. Simon, the truck driver Gypsy is a very hard-working man.
and I want to ask you, sir. Drive a trailer 24 hours a day.
How the hell do you do it, sir?
Let me start by saying that I am not an independent trucker.
I mean, never I drove a truck.
- Ah. - My name is Paul Simon, but I...
I am a composer. I'm not a trucker.
they return to the faces
years since he was here
It is obvious to me that You don't know who or what I am.
I haven't even seen your show. I know what you are.
then just I will say good night.
Oh yes, good night.
Well, sir, it's okay, If that's how you feel,
I can respect that. I can respect the opinions of any man.
I guess it what we have seen there
It's a bit of the anger of the 60s...
He made the people at Columbia Records came to listen to Still Crazy.
This is the summer of '75. And he said, stay for this.
And he put the album with the great speakers.
inside your head, he told me
if you take it logically
in your fight to be free
to leave your lover
When you have had as successful as him,
always worries you never return to that level.
my meaning
will be misunderstood
rude, there must be
But you're betting for your own
taste and intuition and that you can achieve it.
leave your lover
salt from behind, Jack
It is not so much a doubt as a level real nerve, courage and recklessness.
because he is never satisfied.
If you have the type of brain that he has,
your gaze is fixed in what is wrong.
And you enjoy very little of what is good
because there is still the part that is wrong.
One more time.
It is a very tortuous route,
but it's just the hand that touched him.
I mean, essentially,
what we do is follow going over the whole thing.
let me hear the guitar for a second.
Let me hear the... the chromelodeon.
You play them over and over time, and finally... you say:
Did you know? Really I never liked this part.
Alright. I like this part here.
I like this part. That part is okay, you know?
Until finally, I can't stand that part.
That's almost right, just one more touch to the right.
One of my favorite phrases is: the ear goes to the irritant.
He always says: "The ear It's going towards the irritating."
So if something irritates him, he will work in it until you get it the way you want.
But the essence of what is there, he wakes up and it's there.
So work on it is the part you need to do
to justify let that be given to him.
So it should work harder, as much as you want.
And some people will say, well, it's too perfect.
There is no such thing as that. There is no such thing.
Well.
There was a lot in there.
For many people, if I play a piece for you, I say:
listen to this.
Well when you first sit down Once, before listening to it, your mind says:
I hope this is good, you know?
I hope I don't have to say no fucking compliment
after it's over Why won't I say:
Well, I don't like that, you know?
I know what I'm going to say that I like,
but it would be much better if I really liked it.
So when... when the listener sits
for the first time, has a certain expectation.
You try to synchronize your piece in such a way
that you are descending towards the dream...
easy.
I'll do it here and then in the third song.
It really breaks the mood.
You know, I put you to sleep successfully, hopefully,
in a dream, but I need your conscience.
So I'll wake you up a little.
slept all night
and turn off the light
guide star in particular
satisfied that you
whispering in the world
there is nothing to hide
complaints to the shore
the falling tide
Everyone is naked. There is nothing to hide.
Just thinking about it... because always We have the mask on.
Why are we whispering? You always hear people say,
"I am enough older to say what I think.
He is talking about age. He's talking about us.
Why are we whispering?
in us
with your opinion
What the song sums up is that the only thing that really matters
is who became us.
anointed and deceived us with an opinion.
What do you mean by that you fooled us?
Did he deceive us with his opinions?
What... what are you trying tell me, brother?
Look, now I'm getting into blues territory.
Things that are neither right nor wrong.
You know, in "My Professional Opinion",
I like the way who talks to the critic.
In his professional opinion, you are all wrong.
Oh well, everyone...
Thank you Mother, thank you.
Hi, I'm John.
used to play with me mate Paul.
I'm... I'm Paul.
I used to play with my partner Art.
I'm Andy.
used to play with me partner Claudine.
Touching.
- Shall we continue with this? - Let's do it.
Yes ok.
For recording year, the winner is...
Isn't it exciting?
Oh, two Grammy Awards.
"I love you honestly," Olivia Newton-John, producer John Farrar.
Very good, very good.
Reception of the award for Olivia Newton-John
It's Garfunkel Art!
Which one of you is Ringo?
I thought I told you that You will wait in the car.
Will you be again together ever?
Are they going back to be together again?
No, it's terrible, isn't it?
- Are you still writing, Paul? - Yeah.
testing a little of performance, Art.
There is a period in that you have fame.
Was that something you Did it weigh at all?
No, at first I liked it a little.
At first it was fun.
I mean, it's... it's the most unreal that you can imagine.
GOOD.
And then, inevitably, becomes something
what do you want... really You don't want it to be there.
Oh...
Yeah.
It's a... well, I have said it a lot.
You know, fame It's just a poison.
It's just a poison.
A little bit of that It strengthens, you know?
And too much of it would kill you.
Every time someone has great success in business
of music, gets a large number of followers
who really They adore it, there is no doubt about it.
Do you like that feeling to possibly be
the hero or the leader of many people?
I'm really not aware of that feeling.
Don't you understand that?
No not really. I don't... I don't believe that.
People write about it. They say that happens.
I don't think so, honestly.
falls apart
I wonder if it's hard when
someone like you achieves so much success.
and earn all that money and becomes part
of a world of walking in limousines and having people
asking for your autograph and all that.
Have you ever difficult result to return
to the things that you inspired at the beginning?
Well, your world changes, and what You write about change, I guess.
It's not very interesting to write a song about a limousine.
- No. - I... I would avoid that.
I have been wrong
I have felt abandoned
be bright and cheerful
has not been mistreated
make you feel comfortable
has not been destroyed
good for so long
path we are traveling
woke up unexpectedly
eyes could see clearly
which they called The Mayflower
who sailed across the moon
most uncertain of the time
blessed forever
it will be another business day
rest a little
to rest a little
You release records and talk to the people you want to talk to.
And anyway the other people don't listen,
which is nonsense of the whole thing.
They would say: "We are not interested in his political opinions
nor in his vision of society.
Just sing.
That's what you do. You sing, right?
Don't do anything else. "
I want to know if there is... There is a burden with that.
I mean, do you feel a overwhelming responsibility
If someone comes up and says: 'Bridge over troubled waters'
has changed my life and I'm going to move" or something like that?
I think there's... there's a pressure when I write
that has made it more difficult to write... in recent years.
The case in question is that I wrote and acted
and starred in a movie llamada "One-Trick Pony".
I got a huge satisfaction when writing the script,
then write the music and acting in it.
And sometimes an artist does a work
and the work makes you stretch as an artist, which you should do.
that horse can do
source of your income
"One-Trick Pony" comes next
"Still crazy after of all these years. "
And with "Still crazy "After all these years,"
being a number one album and
winning the Grammy for Best Album,
I felt that if I had something to prove
about leaving simon and Garfunkel had proven it.
And now I was searching another challenge, you know?
- Move a little. - Action.
Well, well... uh...
I think it is very important for you make the right record right now.
This song is llama "Ace in the Hole".
We have done very well in the clubs the ones we've been playing at.
music is the ace in the hole
ordinary blues
It's about a... a musician
which is like in the middle.
- It's not at the top of - your profession nor on the basis.
that music is sweet
He is in the middle of his career and He is traveling through the center of the country.
and throughout the Midwest.
And he is about 30 years old.
So he is someone which is right in the middle
and what are the problems when you get to that point
in your life and your career.
It's a great day for baseball here at Yankee Stadium.
The New York Yankees They face the Boston Red Sox.
The first batter of the Yankees will be... Reggie Jackson!
Reggie Jackson finishes starting second grade
in the little school Greenwich Village red.
Well, and the tone.
Reg swings! It's on!
That could be out of here! It's a big problem!
Reggie is leaving!
Obviously, we will continue tracing these autobiographical links.
You almost can't help it.
For example, in the movie you have a six year old son
played by an actor,
and you actually have a six year old son.
Did you see all the cameras? You didn't see me.
- You just arrived, huh? - Yeah.
Do you live in a caravan?
No, I'll just stay here in the afternoon.
You know I'm in that hotel room.
- Do you remember when... - Oh, yes.
That aspect of the movie It is slightly autobiographical.
I mean, the fact that I have a son.
And some of the activities what do we do in the movie
are things that I have made with my son.
Now you look like yourself.
- Brand. - Marker.
That's great. I really like that.
Why don't you come in? We will listen to the playback.
Jonah, I have some ideas. which I would like to talk to you about.
The electric piano that Clarence
play on the bridge It's a beautiful thing there.
I think we could have some threads there, you know.
Pretty, pretty, pretty and heavy string section there.
Texturally, it would be beautiful.
I think it is worth investing time and money to book a session.
Oh, come on. It will rip your heart out.
In the case of One-Trick Pony,
I tried to stretch.
And during the work process,
I was very happy, so happy as always when I work,
which is probably the happiest I have ever been.
And then the work was very enriching for me.
But the sequel produced the effect
contrary why not It was a popular success.
what I was used to until that moment.
For a long time time I felt very,
very guilty for that, very bad, as if I...
as if he had done Something wrong, you know?
Is there almost one feeling of shame?
Do you think: "What have I made myself here?"
Not to myself.
I felt that there was disappointed a lot of people.
I thought there must be made some terrible mistake.
Because One-Trick Pony was a failure,
when they asked me to do a concert in Central Park,
I thought, well, I just have this big failure.
Maybe I should ask Artie to come
and sing some songs about this.
It's Central Park.
we will have to do more than 15 minutes.
We'll have to do, you know, maybe half the show,
and then I said, well, if we do half the show,
That means I'll have to open for Simon and Garfunkel.
We're right on the edge of the feedback here...
...which I don't want to do.
So let's do it all Simon and Garfunkel.
I got through it all, of course.
We discovered three looks diferentes.
Because you are doing about two hours.
Then it was late, twilight and night.
sing my songs
words come back to me
someone comfort me
my thoughts escape
my music plays
lies waiting for me in silence
I don't think we had
idea of โโhow many people would attend.
New York is dangerous, already
you know, completely upside down
And it was a bold thing to do.
And it was a very New York event.
because they are both from Queens.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Simon and Garfunkel.
I knew we had something and
which was a cool thing to do.
Well it's great to do a neighborhood concert.
They showed up around of half a million people.
I hope everyone can hear us.
I hope that sound is good.
In fact, I felt nervous.
I'm used to it to go on stage,
but even though we had played in arenas,
We never touched anything that big.
The longing to have them together was the greatest
that any of the two had ever done.
my resistance
full of murmurs
what you want to hear
house and my family
train running scared
looking for the poorest neighborhoods
that only they would know
the, by the light
Well, I hope you can hear me.
I would like to sing a new song.
I have recorded this song and never I had played it before.
So this is the first time.
"The late great Johnny Ace"
It's about John Lennon. It's about...
- Kennedy. - Kennedy y Johnny Ace.
Yes, all the shots.
All the gun violence.
This was shortly after that the dispararan has Lennon.
I was in the control room.
The camera work and all of that was great.
And suddenly it happened.
He came up and asked me
John Lennon had died
to close the place
I saw through 11 or 12 cameras to
a guy running towards the stage.
I saw him go on stage, already You know, out of the corner of my eye.
The interesting thing about this is that my band... are ready to enter,
and Artie is sitting at the end.
He didn't jump and...
No.
I have to talk to you, Paul.
I have to talk to you. I have to talk to you.
big Johnny Ace, yeah, yeah, yeah
I asked them both what were they thinking
and Artie's thought It was, "Oh, I can't believe it."
This guy is ruining Paul's song.
And Paul's thought was:
"I can't believe this guy is ruining my song."
Because they acted during the 60's,
neither of them He thought: "I'm going to die."
Thank you so much.
Yes, thanks from the bottom of our hearts.
- Gracias. - You made us feel great.
After the concert in Central Park with Simon and Garfunkel, it was a huge success.
And then he forced us to, or forced me me, to get the group back together.
and taking a tour.
I'm like a swimmer standing on the edge of the pool that is now looking at the water.
for a couple of weeks, dying to enter.
I'm very, very excited.
I always like it sing with Artie.
Could you turn a little to your left?
I'm telling you, I just can't. get along with that boy.
Very difficult. No, I'm joking.
We were notoriously antagonistic, but I thought,
did you know? I'm going to leave all that aside
and just have a good reunion tour with Artie.
Here's another new song called "Think Too Much."
Does Art Garfunkel ever Did it ever get on your nerves?
Oh, he always told me gets on your nerves.
-He was... - I shouldn't always say,
but periodically we We get on each other's nerves.
When I say periodically, I mean yes
we are together, probably every day.
tough, okay
We both did it.
for my own good
you think as much as you could
fortunately it was brief
of disbelief
I've known Art since I'm 10 years old
so I think we have developed our own style of disagreement.
You know? Is...
It is a very subtle way to irritate the other person.
As the tour was a success, we said, well,
the disk on which I was working,
"Hearts and Bones" will be a disco de Simon and Garfunkel.
You were separated for 11 years, each one went their separate ways.
Was it difficult for you after separation?
I don't remember it being so difficult,
rather it was exciting.
to carry out their individual work.
I went in knowing that probably It wouldn't be as popular or as successful.
as was Simon and Garfunkel, but...
That's what I expected.
And it wasn't, but It was... it was exciting
and artistically satisfactory for me.
I liked it.
Listen, tell me about the reunion concert
The way in which we used to work was
that I wrote a song and we resolved the harmonies
and sing it together.
We were friends. We were hanging out.
But when we were doing "Hearts and Bones",
Artie's idea was "Give me the songs and I will go to Switzerland"
and walk and compose the harmonies. "
It was a recapitulation of He's in Mexico making a movie.
Well now I wanted smoking and walking around Switzerland
and invent harmonies with these songs.
And then he sent them back, We looked and said, what is that?
What is this?
It didn't sound like him old Simon and Garfunkel.
And I just said, I can't work this way.
park as bookends
among the grass
of old friends
The breakup that occurred after Catch-22, it was never repaired.
They just put it a bandage on top.
But the bandage was so luxurious,
the concert in Central Park...
coats waiting for the sun
We forget that, essentially, We were done as a team.
Will you part again after the tour, Art?
No, I mean, I don't think so. that when the tour ends,
Let's say that completes what we set out to do.
So we both have thought that possibly
let's do more together after that.
So I decided that I'm not going to do it.
Now I have to make an announcement.
"Hearts and bones"...
It won't be an album by Simon and Garfunkel.
Everyone was disappointed.
So that record it was like damn
before really could take off.
Some of the songs I took them to a wonderful place
for what i can do with harmony.
and how can I rearrange things.
Paul was telling me repressing, saying:
"I don't want to do that.
You forget, Artie, what you're doing a serious statement when you do that.
I don't want to make that statement about these songs."
The statement that was doing was that these songs
are about to turn much more attractive.
because the visceral appeal is increasing considerably.
So I was about to do that with all the songs.
And Paul... Paul called me one day.
I was in New England.
He said, "Artie, I'm going to erase all your tapes.
I'm deleting your harmonies throughout the album.
"Oh, really, Paul?"
"And I will marry Carrie Fisher on Tuesday.
Do you want to come to the wedding?"
Ladies and gentlemen, Carrie Fisher.
I felt a little uncomfortable leaving with my Princess Leia costume.
Because it might seem like I'm blowing up Star Wars.
But you know, I followed it because,
you know, if I go out like myself,
Who would recognize me?
And Obi Wan said, look, the costume...
In the middle of that tour reunion, I got married.
I married Carrie Fisher.
Thank you all for joining us on our honeymoon.
we couldn't have done it without you.
song about the moon
evening craters
Were you the godfather wedding at the wedding?
- The best man. - The best man.
Yes, what is the preferred role.
deep and the light is strange
For the commitment We went to Greece.
Paul had rented a boat.
I was dizzy for three days on the railing praying for death.
Apart from that, it was a very fun moment.
And for the honeymoon we went
to Egypt, we went up the Nile.
he laughed a lot
laughs a lot
They rolled down his face
There were many things notable at that time.
But also, they are two people at the top
of his career, and that It's always complicated.
Everything was one kind of whirlwind.
Carrie was in a complete
fame bubble because of Star Wars.
Carrie was much more oriented to the world of entertainment.
I agreed with that.
That's the world in which she grew up.
I was used to it, used to it to a lot of press and things like that.
It wasn't intimidating. or anything like that.
He knew how to manipulate it and make it work for her.
She was really good at it.
And it wasn't.
In the 70s, Paul forged a very successful career.
That's true, but in the '80s, Paul had some problems.
He made an album and it flopped.
made a movie and it also failed.
and then he got married with Carrie Fisher,
and six months later, the marriage also failed.
You know, I mean, What was I thinking about?
You know, I mean, certainly don't think about life,
you know, that in You actually have to stop.
Marriage is very... it's a difficult thing. to do, you need to focus on it.
Not everything can happen at once.
Not everything is a media event.
All kinds of errors on top of errors on top of errors.
I realized that I could get tired of...
In fact, I might run out
with... an emotional disorder.
Have you ever had problems to face one day then?
Did you ever think What, oh man...?
Worst. Worst.
wherever they want
in the Blood of Christ
mountains of new mexico
leg of a trip
desert air
they slide between the stones
Was the marriage something wrong?
- Yeah. - Because?
We were much better.
Well because I think If you look at me, at most,
you might think I am an interesting girlfriend.
But a wife?
I think you will be disappointed.
Poor Paul...he had to put up with me a lot.
I think in the end I fell under the title
of a good anecdote, bad reality
I was very good at the material.
But as far as to everyday life,
I was a little more what he could bear.
Because of who I am, where am I?
Why don't you love me Because of who I am, where am I?
It's not the world, baby
Things are not like that.
I remember someone reviewed it.
He said, "Wow, I sure don't I would like to be close to Paul Simon.
"He seems like a very cold guy," you already know.
It's a song, you know?
It's a song. That It is not my official philosophy.
I'm telling a story.
old acquaintances
had been the most damaged
will be your reward
You've already had two marriages.
Do you think marriage is out of the question in the future?
No, I think that if you fall in love,
you will probably get married.
So many times How does that happen to you in life?
For the lucky ones, this happens once.
But to other people lucky ones it still happens to them.
Hey Siri, call Edie.
Hello.
Hello. What are you doing?
I'm playing "Mystery Train." I love it.
Well, are you ready for me?
We are.
Are you sure? Well.
Good, excellent.
It's okay, just come in.
- Hello. - There she is.
We are being filmed right now.
- Oh, they're filming us. - I'm not going to say anything.
Oh yes, that's right. I forgot.
- Except hello. - Yes, that's right.
When I was 16, I had a friend older and was flipping through his albums.
and I found this beautiful face.
And I felt chills on the back of my neck.
And I said, "Look at this guy!"
And she said: "You don't know Paul Simon?
You'll love their music too."
Ladies and gentlemen, Edie Brickell and the new bohemians.
When you were in Saturday Night Live
for the first time, Did you have that same vibe?
Yes. I was surprised.
Everything was prepared because
we had been there for two years playing that song.
of too many things
They said, "Just keep going." the red dots of the camera.
When you see it light up the red light, look at that camera."
a box of cereal?
And I'm doing all this,
feeling pretty sure, getting over it.
And then I look at the light red central chamber
and there is paul simon standing right next to it.
And everyone else is sunk in the shadows.
And he stands out like a hologram.
It was like waking up from one dream to another dream.
I didn't want to distract her, nor I thought for a moment
that she would be me paying attention at all.
I lost it. I forgot the song.
So at the end of the song, I repeat myself.
what I am is what I am
And you can see me turn and say, "Oh, God...
"I'm sorry, I'm sorry," to the band.
When I came down from stage, he presented himself.
And even then, Lorne silenced because it had started
the "End of Update" week" and we were there talking.
And now, update weekend
with the presenter Dennis Miller.
Then Paul said, We'll talk at the after party.
I don't know who asked first: "How old are you?"
We were both shocked for the answers, you know?
It was like a moment in which we think,
"Well, there's a good idea."
But then he said: "I'm going back to New York
in a few weeks to play in a club.
And I said, "Oh, there I'll go."
She said, "Oh, great."
So I did it.
Then I went to visit her in Dallas.
I got off the plane.
There she was in this 1972 yellow truck.
I guess that was ours. first, you know, big date.
We get along well.
There was a... a sweet attraction.
Here you go.
Hey, but, uh...
time continued changing on this.
Therefore, I want to make sure to visit the right place.
And we will give you three or four takes.
I've never met anyone like Edie.
She is very interested in the mystery, the great mystery of life.
You will never be able to solve the mystery, and that's the good thing about it.
You don't want to solve it.
But you try to connect to it.
And I follow what she thinks and I follow his instincts.
Paul inspires you to feel and think something for yourself.
He opens his palms and says: "What are we going to do?"
blotted out the sunny skies
hitchhikers beckoned to us
in fog with a little luck
a place to stay
of regional perfumes
stars provide us
different there is
in your head
looked down at the ground
make your songs of praise
those ropes
There's something... there's something that...
There is something...
There is something unsatisfying about that.
In the idea, not in the execution.
Oh...
Let's play it again and
Let's see if we can follow the...
the... the fall of the... of the guitar... the guitar.
Yes, I don't want that is too clean.
It's lovely.
I'm sorry.
Hi Jeff. I'm leaving the stage.
Last night I had the worst cough that I have had until now.
Really, I want say, that thing,
literally, I made him fall to his knees.
I just... I just...
It was incredible.
But I feel great in the day, but God,
I'm afraid of the nights.
Yes, I will call you... yes.
Well I will do it.
They are backwards.
That's ok.
Wait, wait, yes.
Let's do this other part, simply Let's start with the word "home."
This album is going to be very special.
Well I almost cried for a minute up there.
I can understand.
At one o'clock, I almost made me cry now.
It's beautiful, Paul.
You know, this reminds me...
how I felt for... moments in
South Africa when I said, it actually works.
After it came out "Hearts And Bones",
and that was not a successful album, I remember reading somewhere
where they said, "That's probably the end of Paul Simon's career.
You will never have again Paul Simon News".
There is a quote from Yeats What I sometimes use is:
"The disgusting store rags and bones of the heart".
As an artist, always you come back to that...
to your heart and what you believe and what you want to create.
And that's what he did.
They were hard years what you are going through,
"Who am I?"
And I think he figured it out, you know?
And then comes Graceland.
Sing.
on a midnight lake
Nobody was paying attention to me, which It was good because until that moment,
there was always someone looking over
from my shoulder to see what the hit was.
So not really I cared that they left me
in peace because I want go and follow the music.
It was around that time when I was building
a house in Montauk, Long Island.
And while I was driving, I heard this tape that a friend had given me.
And after a couple of weeks driving
to and from home and listening to the tape,
I think, what is this tape? This is my favorite tape.
It had no label or no information,
It just said: "Accordion Jive Hits Volume II".
And that led me to ask the people of Warner Bros. to track them down for me.
They tracked him to South Africa.
I started listening to different South African music styles.
I chose three groups that I liked them a lot
and I asked them if it was possible to record with them.
You're not using this, are you?
And at the beginning of 1985 I I proposed starting with this.
When I entered, I didn't would have surprised
that the idea simply It won't work.
It took me one or two days until finally
I was able to meet him best of musicians.
Over there, musicians really talented, and boom.
There was an excellent guitarist.
He started playing some kind
of strumming that was very nice.
And I said, I really like that.
And he said, "Well, just I'm trying to imitate
the way people of the field strums".
So, we continue exchanging information
from Sun Records with South African music.
And it continued to merge with these songs.
I was working with Roy Halee,
the engineer who made all Simon and Garfunkel.
And you know, it was a close friend.
And the musicians... their attitude to At first it was something like,
This white guy wants to pay us triple, you know, yeah, sure, sure.
But then they came in to the control room,
They listened to him and They were like, oh, wow.
Then they start to like: "Let me make an overdub of that.
Let me fix that," you know.
Everyone was excited, and me too, because that's how it sounded,
not in my imagination, but in the speakers.
The whole idea of โโmixing the cultures, musical cultures.
It was a concept of getting good rhythms and go back and then rewrite them.
There was really nothing written.
All Paul's albums, everything what I did with Paul or with someone,
They were written songs.
Being able to enter the studio with a guy like Paul and he says:
"Hey, I have something cool so that everyone can hear me.
Wait until you hear this," and I put "Mrs. Robinson",
I mean, there it is.
Here we enter and there is a idea, you know, a concept.
That album was recorded in five different studies around the world...
one in South Africa, Hit Factory in New York,
CBS Studios in Los Angeles.
A small studio in Crowley, Louisiana, where I recorded zydeco.
Abbey Road Studio in London,
and there we recorded Ladysmith Black Mambazo.
hello, hello, hello
Roy made everything that sound will sound
as if it were one piece to give it coherence.
to all these different sounds
Musicians and locations.
That's it, just like...
Yeah, great, then let's go to "The Boy in the Bubble."
I just want to show what is happening.
Let's just touch it who was from South Africa with nothing.
The bass part is definitely African.
They said... ese era its fretless bass.
That instrument It's so distinctive.
It's so powerful.
It's a great bass part.
And if we only listen the accordion alone...
That accordion sound, there is a Synclavier,
a synthesizer keyboard below.
Carry it out.
That's what makes the thing seems so big.
For the most part, no one really knew
what African music sounded like.
And this was the first disc track.
We were really saying
that this is big, from another place.
En "I Know What I Know", I was trying to invent
words that sounded something similar to what women
cantaban en Shangaan.
back of my head
the back of my head
For the song "Graceland", I started with a drum track.
that belongs to another song completely different.
I wasn't interested in the accordion, but I liked the drum track.
because it sounded like Sun Records.
Top hat doing that.
When I brought her home and I was trying to write it,
I would sing these lines about Graceland, Graceland.
And I would say, of course, that I I'll get rid of the "Graceland" part.
because, I mean, what does it have to do see Graceland with South Africa or something like that?
But then I couldn't replace it with nothing.
He was always singing that.
And finally I said, I don't know.
Maybe it's supposed to I must go to Graceland.
I have never been.
Maybe I'm supposed to leave trip and see what I'm writing about.
So I did it.
Mississippi brillaba
The song started to write itself.
river along the road
the Civil War
And finally turned into this trip
father and son for mend a broken heart.
pilgrims with families
trip is nine years old
first marriage
reasons to believe
received at Graceland
And Graceland became more a metaphor than in a real destination.
tell me he's gone
my own bed
realized
brushed hair from forehead
window in your heart
that you are destroyed
And the album of the year is...
Yes, what happened?
Graceland.
fellow traveler
and empty sockets
ghosts and emptiness
reasons to believe
received at Graceland
Graceland by Paul Simon is a great success,
with more than a million of copies sold.
But it is also controversial because Simon recorded the album in South Africa
with black musicians.
And critics say there shouldn't be had nothing to do with a racist country.
I hope to be able to express properly my deep
admiration and love for singers and musicians
from South Africa who worked with me at Graceland.
They live, together with others south african artists
and his compatriots, under one of the most repressive regimes on the planet today.
And yet, they are capable of producing
music of great power, nuances and joy.
and that seems to me simply extraordinary.
And they have my great respect and affection.
Thank you.
Even now, with all the success of the album,
how worried are you for the accusation?
who has violated the UN boycott,
Has it somehow gone against of the Anti-Apartheid Movement?
Well, I mean, I wouldn't like there to be
no misunderstanding about what I've done.
You know, let's be real.
The cultural boycott has as objective to cut
sustenance to the community South African white.
And they have never addressed the issue
what would happen if someone were to work with the artistic community
black because no one I had done that before.
However, you could be exposed
to the accusation of neighborhoods cultural marginalities.
Say it's a neighborhood poor is to understand
that we Americans We live in the upper area,
and all the others They are in the center.
Or we live in the center and everyone the others are in the upper area.
Whatever you want to call it.
Who is the poor neighborhood?
I mean, we are talking about music here.
Ladies and gentlemen, Hugh Masekela.
Queen of South African music, Mama Africa, Miriam Makeba.
I asked Hugh Masekela and Miriam
I made them join the tour.
Both Hugh and Miriam They were exiled from South Africa.
They were impressive figures.
You know, a man white of the United States,
I could never have defended
politically all the idea of โโGraceland.
I could defend it musically,
but I couldn't have defend it politically.
I simply they would have fired.
It just seems what could have
very strong repercussions be part of this tour.
But the strong repercussions from where?
From South Africa.
It's an individual choice as South Africans.
I'm going to sit and say, okay,
I want to be safe while my cousin, my son, my mother,
my grandmother and other people Do they shoot them every day?
Those who do not want participate in the tour
they have the possibility of say "No, I will not participate."
But until now, fortunately, Everyone has said they are going to do it.
because they know the seriousness of the problems we have at home.
She could silence anyone anywhere, Miriam.
He is not a person with the one you want to get involved with.
I would tell the truth...
And Hugh could give you a really precise and revealing vision.
People have ignored our situation for a long time, and they have only...
they have only seen it since a political point of view.
So it was great that someone could be so moved by our music
that despite all the opposition, He went and looked for the South Africans and said:
"I want to be with you and sing with you, like a human being, you know,
because your music moves me. "
The closest we could get from South Africa was Harare, Zimbabwe.
I'm not sure if someone really anticipated
that would become in what was,
that was a hearing completely integrated.
That would have been Illegal in South Africa.
Many South Africans crossed the border to see the concert,
and also many Zimbabweans.
So you had a great audience of whites and blacks together.
No problem, everyone has a good time.
Thanks to the tour of Graceland, we are here.
But I hope and wish that one day South Africans can invite Paul Simon.
To Johannesburg in a free South Africa!
on the side of the road
baby connected to the radio
of miracles and wonders
long distance
follows us in slow motion
we see everyone, oh yeah
a distant constellation
in a corner of the sky
of miracles and amazement
don't cry, don't cry
of miracles and amazement
long distance
Gave everyone a chance to prove his worth.
Believe in ourselves, believe in music and, at the same time,
be grateful to get it out and make it world famous.
long lost
call, you can call me Al
We finish the song and the people
continued encouraging and clapping, you know?
I kept waiting for go to the next song
and then Ray Phiri said: "They want you to do it again."
I said, "Yes, I know, but "We're going to do this."
And he said, no, you don't understand.
They want you to do it again.
And then we did it again.
Am I soft in the middle?
soft in the middle
life is very difficult
to take photographs
chance of redemption
in a cartoon
cartoon
well lit
strays from me
these fun things
long lost
and the show had the gold added
to have the best from Hugh's repertoire.
Incredible performance, and Miriam,
had a great international success.
with a song called "Pata Pata".
name of a dance that
way to johannesburg
Pata starts to ring
I didn't know what to say about being
the most exiled famous from South Africa.
I think when you are in exile,
you are in exile, whether you are famous or not.
Exile is painful.
all these years that they have tried
separate myself from the people at home,
There is nothing that can come between us.
I'm also happy that the people at home
have decided that they are not going to sit
and end apartheid with arms crossed.
And I thank my people.
We will get there and I'll go home.
my grandmother's door
through harmony
how do we start to remember
pulse of love in the vein
fall and scream your name
roots of rhythm
rhythm remain
Occurred.
This idea actually came up and When we played together, it was great.
And the people liked everywhere.
To the blacks and the whites, everyone liked it.
And I think that for all South Africans,
who had just lived in the darkness, it was fantastic.
soles of his shoes
lose that sadness of walking
soles of your shoes
physically forgotten
pocket with my car keys
sitting because I please you
ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
know what I'm talking about
what am i talking about
The statement he made was:
listen how rich is this culture.
Look at these people. They are so cool.
Can you imagine them now under the boots of apartheid?
It became real.
They were real people.
I think that people became more passionate
in his indignation against the South African regime.
and in support of the South African culture.
Well, "Diamonds on the soles of their shoes.
It's really like a kind of township song.
But there was a connection between
west africans and South Africans.
The track goes from south african rhythm
to the rhythm of West Africa.
And that percussion from Africa western is really
which led me to "The Rhythm of the Saints".
I was just following the trail.
it all started when there was a club
in New York called SOB, Sounds of Brazil.
It still exists.
They used to be just Brazilian music.
And there I found myself with Eddie Palmieri.
He approached me and said:
"You know, what are you going to do now?"
You've done Graceland. What are you going to do?"
He said, well, you can't. make just one African album.
South Africa, that's where There are the great voices.
Now you have to go to West Africa,
where they are heard the big drums
and then follow the drums in the African diaspora.
And while I was, you know, thinking, this is what I'm going to do,
Quincy Jones called me and said:
"Do you know Milton Nascimento?
"He would like to record with you."
and I said, yes, I would love to.
So when it's all over,
I say, "You know what, If I go to Brazil,
would you introduce me to the drummers?"
And he said, "Yes, of course, I'll put you in contact with my producer.
We went to Brazil and I heard these drums in the street.
It's Olodum practicing.
I said, "Wow, that's great."
Why don't we record that?
We could just go to a patio and we will hang the microphones.
And you know, We'll let it go."
So we did it.
I probably had it for a year before hearing it again.
And then I started to break it down
what became the base de "The Obvious Child".
to a peaceful journey
who has lost his bite
treat like a fool
all night
a lie is just a lie
deny the obvious to the child
traffic signal
girl when she was young
songs are true
free and listen now
have bills to pay
day by day, day by day
You will see that in many of these sessions
It's something like saying: "Wow, that's great."
Where does that come from?" "Oh, from there."
"Oh, you can't record there."
People would say, "No, that would be very difficult.
I would say, okay, so it is very difficult.
Here we go.
let's do something very difficult now.
It is possible.
The worst that happens is that we don't understand it.
But you never know what you will find on the way.
I feel safe
barking at dawn
the edges of a storm
a sleeping army
restless mother
to break and run
I'm already used to them
quiet and disappear
the tears
to tears, oh
Every record he made, everything he did,
it was always a challenge different for him.
with the same understanding... family love,
loss, rebirth,
struggle, ambiguity,
and a contagious and happy rhythm.
And the story that you will lead you to realize
about people from different traditions,
and not the reduction of the feeling
but the expansion of the feeling
and, ultimately, the integration of life and death.
Thank you very much, very much.
May you have one sweet and calm night.
Good night.
I have a little... You know I love you, boy.
- Know? Shit. - I know I love you too, man.
Curse.
Thank you for... thank you...
Thanks man. Come on, you know?
You never thank me. It's a blessing for me.
You can say thank you, you know?
Not for me.
I didn't have a letter the last song,
but I touched everything the piece to Wynton.
And when we got to it, I said:
"That's the end of the piece," you know.
And he said, "Wow." Said: "I'll tell you what I feel.
When we get to it,
I feel that I really "I don't want to die."
And that's what me hizo "whoa".
of ghosts that I have
heartbroken microphone
The music comes out of you from where you don't know.
Speak this language where It doesn't have to be precise.
Say something in which You don't have to think, is that right?
If that was my criterion and everything had to be like this,
it had to be true what I said,
could also be given by defeated from the beginning.
It can't be done.
What I've tried to learn, after all these years,
is that when you find something that produces
a feeling of peace or joy, try to spread it.
Try to hold on to it.
It's like bliss.
It's as if there were no more.
It's a mystery.
It's a great mystery.
my old friend
with you again
drag gently
I have to be careful with that frequency.
while I was sleeping
in my brain
The guitar needs to go up.
sound of silence
I walked alone
of cobblestones
of a streetlight
the cold and humidity
of a neon light
of silence
they hear without listening
Yes I'm fine.
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