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- ♪ Something happened
on the day he died ♪
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♪ Spirit rose a meter
and stepped aside ♪
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♪ Somebody else
took his place ♪
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♪ And bravely cried ♪
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Always remember that
the reason
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that you initially
started working
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was that there was
something inside yourself
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that you felt that
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if you could manifest it
in some way,
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you would understand
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more about yourself
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and how you coexist
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with the rest of society.
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♪ How many times
does an angel fall ♪
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♪ How many people lie ♪
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♪ Instead of talking tall ♪
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People have either
really accepted what I do
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or they've absolutely
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sort of pushed it
away from them.
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I guess that's what I am,
you know?
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But I would love to feel that
what I did
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actually changed
the fabric of music.
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Even though I seem to
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superficially change
such a lot,
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a style does come through.
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By virtue of the fact
that I'm getting older,
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it's given me quite a scope
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on what I can draw
from within my own
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catalog of albums.
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♪ Look up here ♪
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♪ I'm in heaven ♪
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♪ I've got scars
that can't be seen ♪
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'Allo, 'Allo,'Allo!
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It's your lucky day!
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♪ Where are we now? ♪
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♪ Where are we now? ♪
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- I think that David's music
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is totally autobiographical.
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He's telling you everything
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if you just know
what to look for.
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- ♪ The moment you know ♪
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♪ You know you know ♪
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- He was a kind of
provocateur.
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- ♪ Where the fuck
did Monday go? ♪
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- He offered an alternative
to people,
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and that, to me,
is a great artist.
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You know?
Someone who can
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offer that for generations
to come.
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- This is one human being
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who has single-handedly
changed
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basically the course
of my life,
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and you can't say that
about most people.
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- ♪ Loving the alien ♪
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♪ Watch that man ♪
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- ♪ Oh, honey,
watch that man ♪
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- ♪ Blue, blue,
electric blue ♪
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♪ That's the color
of my room ♪
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♪ I'm looking for a vehicle ♪
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♪ I'm looking for a ride ♪
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♪ I'm looking for a party ♪
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♪ I'm looking for a side ♪
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♪ We can be heroes ♪
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♪ Just for one day ♪
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I've this poetic, romantic,
kind of juvenile idea
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that I would be dead by 30,
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but suddenly you're 30
and you're 40.
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Then you're 50 and 57,
and all that,
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and it's a new land,
you know?
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- Sure.
- I'm a pioneer.
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♪ Got your mother
in a whirl ♪
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♪ She's not sure
if you're a boy or a girl ♪
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♪ Hey, baby ♪
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♪ Your hair's all right ♪
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♪ Hey, baby,
let's stay out tonight ♪
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- It's a big tour
you're starting now, isn't it?
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- Yeah, it's gonna go on
for months and months,
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but, uh, I think
we're up for it.
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- How do you feel
right now?
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- Pretty relaxed, you know.
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Uh, I enjoy the songs a lot,
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so, uh, I'm gonna...
I'm gonna have a good time.
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♪ You're ♪
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- You know, I'm gonna
be honest with you.
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The happiest I've ever seen
that man
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in 42 years that I spent,
on and off, with him,
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was that tour.
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I...I'd never seen him
like that before.
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- ♪ You're ♪
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♪ Rebel, rebel ♪
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- ♪ Put on your dress ♪
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♪ Rebel, rebel ♪
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- ♪ Face is a mess ♪
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♪ You're a ♪
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♪ Rebel, rebel ♪
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- ♪ How could they know? ♪
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♪ Hot tramp,
I love you so ♪
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- ♪ You bet ♪
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- At a certain time
in your life,
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you get to a point where
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you do feel freer
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and you don't really care
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what people...
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Think, and you can be yourself
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and you can laugh at things
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and you can not take things,
maybe, so seriously.
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- ♪ Hey, baby,
let's stay out tonight ♪
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- When it came to
the "Reality Tour,"
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I think he had decided that
he was gonna take down
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that kind of
screen, if you like...
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- Thank you!
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- And be David Bowie,
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not in a cheesy way,
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but he...he allowed more access
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to himself.
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- On guitar,
from Dublin's fair city,
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Gerry Leonard.
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Actually, he's...
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he's actually from
Tunbridge Wells,
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but he always gets
the good applause
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when I say that.
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I'm not really very keen
to put on
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much of a theatrical show,
you know,
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in terms of big sets
and elephants and fireworks
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and things like that.
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Of course, it doesn't mean that
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I won't go back on my word,
because that's, you know,
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part and parcel
of what I do for you,
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as part of
my entertaining factor
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is lying to you.
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- His sense of humor was on.
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He always had one anyway,
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but publicly,
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he didn't show it as much.
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You know what I mean?
There was that
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serious artist thing
going on, you know,
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during some of the tours.
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The "Reality Tour"
wasn't like that,
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because there was some nights
I was falling down laughing
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for some of the shit
that he would say or do
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or that happened.
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- These must be my albums
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that nobody ever bought,
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so they've gotten
really cheap.
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Look, they got "Lodger"
and "Tin Machine,"
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Isn't that because...
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- We're at some truck stop
in Montana,
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and I'm at...
you know...you know those
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machines that you never win at
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where you put in the quarter
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and then the claw comes down
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and it picks up
the stuffed animal?
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- Yeah, good boy.
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- Oh!
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Oh!
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- I do, it, and I actually get
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the thing out of it,
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and it's the...
but it's the two of us.
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It's this competition
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of who's gonna get
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the stuffed animal.
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- I think it's kind of
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a 50/50 thing here,
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so I'll take that one...
- Oh, cut...
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it was Cat's money.
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That's just not the David
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that I had known
in early years.
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That's brilliant.
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- Some of the fun and games
that were going on...
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I think that really was
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who he was, you know?
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The real David was the one
that you saw
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at the time of
the "Reality Tour."
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He was...he's just...
he was always funny.
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He always had
a funny sense of humor.
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He was always joking
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about things.
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- All right.
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- Oh, you're doing your bird.
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- Dun-dun-dun-dun.
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- Guess the movie.
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- There was a sense
that David looked
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as young and as youthful
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as ever on that tour.
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It did seem like he had
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the gift from the gods,
you know?
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That...that he was never
gonna get old.
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- ♪ Never ever, ever
gonna get old ♪
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That's a lie,
but it's only a little lie.
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- He looked so good
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and youthful
at the same time
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and one night, I said,
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"You look really good
in that suit,"
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and for some reason,
the way I said it...
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he said,
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"I'm happily married."
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So I didn't realize what I...
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how I was saying that.
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But yeah,
he just looked great,
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all the time.
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- ♪ Billy rapped all night ♪
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♪ About his suicide ♪
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♪ Kick it in the head
when he was 25 ♪
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That's just speed jive.
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♪ Don't wanna stay alive ♪
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♪ When you're 25 ♪
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- Playing
"All the Young Dudes,"
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that's such...
like an anthem, really.
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In a way,
it was almost like church,
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you know,
when you really do feel like
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you have this congregation
of people
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and everyone's singing
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and the whole place
is swaying.
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♪ All the young dudes ♪
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- Yeah, you in the back!
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♪ Carry the news ♪
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- In the St. George T-shirt!
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♪ Dudes ♪
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- ♪ Carry the message ♪
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♪ One more ♪
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- It was just a...
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an incredible connection
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to the audience,
I think, for that show,
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for pretty much
the whole show.
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♪ Boogaloo dudes ♪
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♪ Carry the news ♪
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- He just got into
tunnel vision,
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like he was gonna make this
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not just successful,
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but just be prepared
to play it,
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because it was a lot of music
every night.
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We would go in
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2 1/2-hour sets,
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and, you know,
you have to really
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be physically capable
to handle that.
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- Going on tour
excited him very much,
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but, uh, he said to me,
flat-out,
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"I'm tired,"
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so I think, um,
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he fulfilled
all his wishes and dreams,
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and maybe he got
a little over-saturated
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in the touring.
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- We got to Prague,
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and then, during a show,
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David was sweating profusely
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and unable to sing.
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- And then he started
to hunch over.
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He looked over,
and I looked over at him,
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and I went, "There's something
really wrong."
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I said...
and I went, like...
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and I signaled
to his floor manager,
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and I went,
"Boss, you're not okay."
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- The security person ran out
and took him off the stage.
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Just took him away.
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- It was a little mysterious
to everybody
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as to what it might be,
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because it really did
come out of the blue.
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- I just was thinking,
"Okay, he's seeing the doctor.
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Maybe they've
given him a shot, or whatever."
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Then we got ready to go
to the Hurricane Festival.
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- We'll leave this one for you,
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for me, for my band,
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for our families.
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Thanks very much.
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- We played the entire set,
265
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and it seemed, you know,
normal.
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Not as...quite as...
as energetic
267
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and as charged
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as the performances before.
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- ♪ But I'll drink
all the time ♪
270
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♪ 'Cause we're lovers ♪
271
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♪ That is a fact ♪
272
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♪ Yes, we're lovers ♪
273
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- We finished the show...
274
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- ♪ And that is that ♪
275
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- And then it seemed like
276
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David was in a lot of pain
277
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and obviously
something was wrong.
278
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- They sent an ambulance,
and took him away.
279
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We went back in the vans, um,
with the band,
280
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and he went off
in an ambulance that night.
281
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- I think we were told
that, um,
282
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he had a mild heart attack
283
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and that his life
wasn't in danger,
284
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but that was it.
We were going home.
285
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- He said he
wasn't gonna work for a while
286
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and, uh, he wasn't sure
287
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if he'd ever record again,
288
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or tour again.
289
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He just wanted
to take time off.
290
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- I think any kind of
unexpected thing,
291
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like a heart attack...
it makes you
292
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reevaluate things, and I...
293
00:13:17,765 --> 00:13:20,765
but I never thought
he'd stop working.
294
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- We would exchange emails
about things that were
295
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interesting to each other
or relevant,
296
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but there wasn't
a lot of contact.
297
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- It's hard to figure out
David,
298
00:13:37,307 --> 00:13:40,348
you know, and I stopped
trying to figure him out.
299
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Just hope the phone
would ring,
300
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and/or get an email from him,
301
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and I did.
302
00:14:22,515 --> 00:14:25,265
- Having not heard from him
for a while,
303
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I suddenly got an email
304
00:14:27,016 --> 00:14:28,307
to see if I was available
305
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to come and play on the album.
306
00:14:30,348 --> 00:14:33,390
I received, then,
an email from the management
307
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about the fact that
if I was going to do this,
308
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it would have to be secret,
309
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and if I
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said anything about it,
311
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I would be in big trouble...
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Legally.
313
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- I got an email,
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really out of the blue,
from David.
315
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"Do you want to come
316
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and work on some new songs
for a week?"
317
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Uh, "P.S.,
318
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uh, keep schtum."
319
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- Once we got to the studio,
320
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one of the first things
he did
321
00:15:05,724 --> 00:15:08,141
was hand out NDAs to everybody:
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these papers to sign.
It's the first time
323
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that I'd ever been asked
324
00:15:12,141 --> 00:15:13,473
to do something like that
for him.
325
00:15:14,932 --> 00:15:16,390
- The hours were very short,
326
00:15:16,390 --> 00:15:17,891
compared to normal.
327
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By 6:00, that was it,
no matter what,
328
00:15:19,682 --> 00:15:22,390
and some days,
even earlier than that.
329
00:15:22,390 --> 00:15:24,557
That was not the David Bowie
330
00:15:24,557 --> 00:15:26,515
that I ever worked with before.
331
00:15:26,515 --> 00:15:28,557
Ever.
I've never seen that.
332
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He would go in there
333
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and stay there until
334
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he was spent or done,
335
00:15:35,057 --> 00:15:36,765
but this was like a...
336
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"Mm. I'm leaving.
337
00:15:38,390 --> 00:15:39,724
6:00. See you."
338
00:15:41,765 --> 00:15:43,765
- He really wanted
no pressure on him
339
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to release an album.
340
00:15:45,141 --> 00:15:47,099
There was no press release
saying
341
00:15:47,099 --> 00:15:50,307
"Expect a Bowie album
on this date."
342
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This way, he could finish
every song to perfection.
343
00:16:04,265 --> 00:16:05,807
- I'm much more interested
344
00:16:05,807 --> 00:16:07,432
in the process of life
345
00:16:07,432 --> 00:16:08,974
and what is it that we're...
346
00:16:08,974 --> 00:16:12,141
we're uncovering
with our every move?
347
00:16:12,141 --> 00:16:15,557
The celebrity side of it...
I couldn't give a sausage.
348
00:16:28,557 --> 00:16:30,099
- ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
349
00:16:30,099 --> 00:16:31,599
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
350
00:16:31,599 --> 00:16:34,182
♪ Stars are never sleeping ♪
351
00:16:35,974 --> 00:16:38,432
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh,
ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
352
00:16:38,432 --> 00:16:42,599
♪ Dead ones and the living ♪
353
00:16:42,599 --> 00:16:46,473
♪ We live closer
to the earth ♪
354
00:16:46,473 --> 00:16:49,974
♪ Never to the heavens ♪
355
00:16:49,974 --> 00:16:53,557
♪ The stars are never
far away ♪
356
00:16:53,557 --> 00:16:56,557
♪ The stars are out tonight ♪
357
00:16:56,557 --> 00:16:58,141
- David!
358
00:16:58,141 --> 00:17:00,182
Mr. Bowie! Mr. Bowie!
359
00:17:00,182 --> 00:17:01,849
David, can you wave?
360
00:17:01,849 --> 00:17:03,515
- ♪ The stars must stick
together ♪
361
00:17:03,515 --> 00:17:05,390
- "The Stars Are Out Tonight"
song
362
00:17:05,390 --> 00:17:08,682
is about David's attitude
towards celebrities.
363
00:17:08,682 --> 00:17:09,849
He's had a good dose
364
00:17:09,849 --> 00:17:11,265
of other people's celebrity,
365
00:17:11,265 --> 00:17:13,016
which, uh,
he found distasteful.
366
00:17:15,099 --> 00:17:18,057
- There were definitely
things on his mind
367
00:17:18,057 --> 00:17:19,515
and he'd been
ruminating over,
368
00:17:19,515 --> 00:17:21,265
and it was all coming out now.
369
00:17:21,265 --> 00:17:24,141
It was like
he was birthing the stuff.
370
00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:27,849
- He was trying
a lot of things.
371
00:17:27,849 --> 00:17:29,348
He had to flex his muscles,
372
00:17:29,348 --> 00:17:31,057
to get back in shape,
like a runner,
373
00:17:31,057 --> 00:17:33,765
or an athlete.
That's what he had to do.
374
00:17:33,765 --> 00:17:36,974
You know, we just would throw
these songs at the musicians,
375
00:17:36,974 --> 00:17:38,724
and they haven't
heard them before.
376
00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:42,057
So we have David Torn
on this track.
377
00:17:42,057 --> 00:17:45,807
For instance, the intro...
if I play David Torn...
378
00:17:56,765 --> 00:17:58,891
And that's his role in this,
you know.
379
00:17:58,891 --> 00:18:01,807
- I had this loop...
something like this going,
380
00:18:01,807 --> 00:18:04,390
which sounded like this,
381
00:18:04,390 --> 00:18:06,390
and I was moving it
in and out
382
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:10,724
while the...
while the whine was happening.
383
00:18:12,557 --> 00:18:15,891
- And I remember also
that he was changing his vocal
384
00:18:15,891 --> 00:18:17,891
over the chords
to create different sections,
385
00:18:17,891 --> 00:18:20,891
so we kind of had the idea
to, uh,
386
00:18:20,891 --> 00:18:22,765
put some little
different guitar riffs
387
00:18:22,765 --> 00:18:24,265
to kind of signify
388
00:18:24,265 --> 00:18:26,724
the changes over that.
389
00:18:32,765 --> 00:18:35,473
- I put Torn and Leonard
together...
390
00:18:35,473 --> 00:18:36,932
Torn and Leonard.
391
00:18:40,765 --> 00:18:42,682
Very complementary.
392
00:18:43,849 --> 00:18:44,974
Okay.
393
00:18:50,974 --> 00:18:52,932
- It's that kind of...
almost a Motown kind of...
394
00:18:52,932 --> 00:18:54,473
I don't know where that
kind of comes from.
395
00:18:54,473 --> 00:18:56,099
- Very Motown-y, yeah.
396
00:18:59,099 --> 00:19:03,057
- ♪ Sugar pie,
honey bunch ♪
397
00:19:03,057 --> 00:19:04,640
- But he never said
anything about doing that.
398
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,223
- That's right.
- We kind of assumed.
399
00:19:06,223 --> 00:19:07,640
- If you've got a smile,
400
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,974
you're going in the right
direction, you know?
401
00:19:08,974 --> 00:19:10,765
If you get that
kind of, like,
402
00:19:10,765 --> 00:19:11,932
you're just like, "Oh, no,
403
00:19:11,932 --> 00:19:13,099
I wasn't thinking that at all."
404
00:19:13,099 --> 00:19:14,390
You know?
405
00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:16,932
- And it made me think
of another song
406
00:19:16,932 --> 00:19:18,432
which is a David song,
407
00:19:18,432 --> 00:19:20,265
which was, uh,
408
00:19:20,265 --> 00:19:23,473
"China Girl."
409
00:19:26,307 --> 00:19:28,932
- David would come
to the studio with
410
00:19:28,932 --> 00:19:31,640
pages full of lyrics,
and start scratching them out.
411
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,599
Up until the last minute,
he would keep revising,
412
00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:37,141
and sometimes,
he would come in and
413
00:19:37,141 --> 00:19:39,141
just re-sing one line.
414
00:19:56,016 --> 00:19:57,515
- "Stars Are Out Tonight."
I think that's
415
00:19:57,515 --> 00:19:58,765
one of my favorite songs
416
00:19:58,765 --> 00:20:00,182
on the record, actually.
417
00:20:00,182 --> 00:20:01,599
I think that song was a...
418
00:20:01,599 --> 00:20:03,016
for lack of a better word,
419
00:20:03,016 --> 00:20:04,057
a good piss-take...
420
00:20:04,057 --> 00:20:06,515
In a way,
421
00:20:06,515 --> 00:20:09,265
on...on what fame has become,
422
00:20:09,265 --> 00:20:12,765
which just is
out-of-control machine.
423
00:20:14,348 --> 00:20:18,016
- You know, David had great,
grand ideas.
424
00:20:18,016 --> 00:20:20,724
To become well-known,
famous,
425
00:20:20,724 --> 00:20:22,807
was for him, initially,
426
00:20:22,807 --> 00:20:24,891
was to have the resources
427
00:20:24,891 --> 00:20:27,473
to realize what his ideas were.
428
00:20:27,473 --> 00:20:29,891
He really does come from
that spirit.
429
00:20:29,891 --> 00:20:33,099
Um, he just didn't
want to be famous per se.
430
00:20:40,099 --> 00:20:42,891
- ♪ Da-da-da-da ♪
431
00:20:42,891 --> 00:20:45,891
I just wanted to make
a really big name for myself.
432
00:20:45,891 --> 00:20:48,307
I wanted to make a mark.
433
00:20:48,307 --> 00:20:51,099
♪ Just look through
your window ♪
434
00:20:51,099 --> 00:20:54,724
♪ Look who sits outside ♪
435
00:20:54,724 --> 00:20:57,390
- David had quite an edgy
personality.
436
00:20:57,390 --> 00:21:01,057
He was intrigued by
edgy stuff.
437
00:21:01,057 --> 00:21:02,807
He wanted to do
many things.
438
00:21:02,807 --> 00:21:04,932
He loved the idea of theater.
439
00:21:04,932 --> 00:21:06,932
He loved the idea of acting.
440
00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:09,348
He loved the idea
of working with actors.
441
00:21:09,348 --> 00:21:11,390
- ♪ Ah ♪
442
00:21:11,390 --> 00:21:12,974
♪ Beautiful baby ♪
443
00:21:12,974 --> 00:21:14,765
♪ And my heart's aflame ♪
444
00:21:14,765 --> 00:21:16,599
♪ I'll love you till Tuesday ♪
445
00:21:16,599 --> 00:21:18,141
♪ My head's in a whirl ♪
446
00:21:18,141 --> 00:21:21,057
♪ And I'll love you
till Tuesday ♪
447
00:21:21,057 --> 00:21:23,640
- He loved the idea of
working with musicians.
448
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,473
Being one himself,
449
00:21:25,473 --> 00:21:27,141
he always
450
00:21:27,141 --> 00:21:31,307
was looking right and left,
or over his shoulder,
451
00:21:31,307 --> 00:21:33,016
uh, at what might be,
452
00:21:33,016 --> 00:21:35,016
or what...
"What could I do next."
453
00:21:36,932 --> 00:21:38,515
- It took me all the '60s
454
00:21:38,515 --> 00:21:40,640
to try everything
that I could think of
455
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,390
to find out exactly
what it was
456
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:44,223
I wanted to do anyway,
457
00:21:44,223 --> 00:21:46,265
but just about
the end of the '60s,
458
00:21:46,265 --> 00:21:47,932
it just started
to come together.
459
00:21:47,932 --> 00:21:52,307
♪ Strange games
they would play then ♪
460
00:21:52,307 --> 00:21:57,390
♪ No death for
the perfect men ♪
461
00:21:57,390 --> 00:22:03,557
♪ Life rolls
into one for them ♪
462
00:22:03,557 --> 00:22:06,057
♪ So softly ♪
463
00:22:06,057 --> 00:22:13,141
♪ A super-god cries ♪
464
00:22:13,348 --> 00:22:14,682
Through circumstances,
465
00:22:14,682 --> 00:22:15,974
I'd run into a drummer
466
00:22:15,974 --> 00:22:17,473
called John Cambridge,
467
00:22:17,473 --> 00:22:19,891
and Tony Visconti
and Mick Ronson,
468
00:22:19,891 --> 00:22:21,974
and we'd put together a band
called Hype.
469
00:22:21,974 --> 00:22:24,557
It was probably
my first costume band.
470
00:22:24,557 --> 00:22:26,807
As far as I'm aware,
that was the very first
471
00:22:26,807 --> 00:22:28,849
so-called "glam rock" gig.
472
00:22:28,849 --> 00:22:30,057
♪ No pain of flesh ♪
473
00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:31,599
♪ No power too great ♪
474
00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:33,016
- Hype was very important
475
00:22:33,016 --> 00:22:35,348
to David's development.
476
00:22:35,348 --> 00:22:37,016
This was the only way
he could see
477
00:22:37,016 --> 00:22:38,265
at that time
478
00:22:38,265 --> 00:22:40,724
that he could, uh,
479
00:22:40,724 --> 00:22:42,182
be famous,
become famous,
480
00:22:42,182 --> 00:22:44,432
and become...
become well-known,
481
00:22:44,432 --> 00:22:46,932
and it wasn't quite
the right incarnation,
482
00:22:46,932 --> 00:22:49,265
because he was not yet
483
00:22:49,265 --> 00:22:50,473
dyeing his hair orange,
484
00:22:50,473 --> 00:22:52,057
and he hadn't taken on
485
00:22:52,057 --> 00:22:53,849
the Ziggy persona yet.
486
00:22:53,849 --> 00:22:59,182
- ♪ And he was all right ♪
487
00:22:59,182 --> 00:23:02,182
♪ The band was all together ♪
488
00:23:02,182 --> 00:23:03,932
♪ Yes, he was ♪
489
00:23:03,932 --> 00:23:06,849
♪ All right ♪
490
00:23:06,849 --> 00:23:10,141
♪ The song went on forever ♪
491
00:23:10,141 --> 00:23:11,849
♪ And he was ♪
492
00:23:11,849 --> 00:23:14,599
♪ Awful nice ♪
493
00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:18,891
♪ Really quite out of sight ♪
And he sang...
494
00:23:18,891 --> 00:23:22,099
- ♪ All ♪
- ♪ All night ♪
495
00:23:22,099 --> 00:23:24,307
♪ All night long ♪
496
00:23:26,891 --> 00:23:30,307
♪ Ooh, how I sighed ♪
497
00:23:30,307 --> 00:23:33,223
♪ When they asked
if I knew his name ♪
498
00:23:33,223 --> 00:23:35,182
♪ Oh, he was ♪
499
00:23:35,182 --> 00:23:37,724
- ♪ All ♪
- ♪ All right ♪
500
00:23:37,724 --> 00:23:39,348
The real characterization
501
00:23:39,348 --> 00:23:41,182
really didn't kick in
till the Ziggy.
502
00:23:41,182 --> 00:23:43,640
I mean, I was always
quite a shy kid,
503
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,557
and I didn't come alive
on stage.
504
00:23:45,557 --> 00:23:47,432
I just got even shier,
505
00:23:47,432 --> 00:23:49,223
but I found I didn't
get so shy
506
00:23:49,223 --> 00:23:51,141
if I sort of adopted
a character,
507
00:23:51,141 --> 00:23:52,974
so it was a convenience
508
00:23:52,974 --> 00:23:55,099
as well as a very bright
theatrical idea.
509
00:23:56,682 --> 00:23:58,682
♪ Didn't know
what time it was ♪
510
00:23:58,682 --> 00:24:01,515
♪ Lights were low ♪
511
00:24:01,515 --> 00:24:03,599
♪ I leaned back ♪
512
00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:06,432
♪ On my radio ♪
513
00:24:06,432 --> 00:24:08,724
♪ Some cat was laying down
some ♪
514
00:24:08,724 --> 00:24:11,182
♪ Get it on
rock and roll ♪
515
00:24:11,182 --> 00:24:12,390
♪ He said ♪
516
00:24:13,974 --> 00:24:18,807
♪ Then the loud sound
did seem to fade ♪
517
00:24:18,807 --> 00:24:20,891
♪ Came back like a slow voice ♪
518
00:24:20,891 --> 00:24:23,807
♪ On a wave
of phase haze ♪
519
00:24:23,807 --> 00:24:25,891
♪ That weren't no DJ ♪
520
00:24:25,891 --> 00:24:28,932
♪ That was hazy cosmic jive ♪
521
00:24:30,348 --> 00:24:31,599
♪ Uh-huh ♪
522
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,765
♪ There's a starman ♪
523
00:24:35,765 --> 00:24:38,016
♪ Waiting in the sky ♪
524
00:24:38,016 --> 00:24:40,724
♪ He'd like to come
and meet us ♪
525
00:24:40,724 --> 00:24:42,932
♪ But he thinks
he'd blow our minds ♪
526
00:24:42,932 --> 00:24:45,891
♪ And there's a starman ♪
527
00:24:45,891 --> 00:24:48,432
♪ Waiting in the sky ♪
528
00:24:48,432 --> 00:24:50,599
♪ He told us not to blow it ♪
529
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:52,557
♪ 'Cause he knows
it's all worthwhile ♪
530
00:24:52,557 --> 00:24:56,390
♪ He told me
let the children use it ♪
531
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:58,932
♪ Let the children lose it ♪
532
00:24:58,932 --> 00:25:01,807
♪ Let all the children boogie ♪
533
00:25:01,807 --> 00:25:03,849
- Have you always wanted
to be a star?
534
00:25:03,849 --> 00:25:05,099
- Yeah.
535
00:25:05,099 --> 00:25:07,265
It's more than being a star.
536
00:25:07,265 --> 00:25:10,223
What it is, really,
is I want to be
537
00:25:10,223 --> 00:25:11,432
productive.
538
00:25:11,432 --> 00:25:13,390
I'm not content to be
539
00:25:13,390 --> 00:25:16,473
just a rock-and-roll star
all my life.
540
00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:20,057
I am trying to be one
at the moment,
541
00:25:20,057 --> 00:25:22,599
because I need it
for a particular reason,
542
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:24,557
so I can get off
and do other things.
543
00:25:24,557 --> 00:25:27,557
♪ There's a starman ♪
544
00:25:27,557 --> 00:25:29,182
♪ Waiting in the sky ♪
545
00:25:29,182 --> 00:25:32,099
♪ He told us not to blow it ♪
546
00:25:32,099 --> 00:25:34,265
♪ 'Cause he knows
it's all worthwhile ♪
547
00:25:34,265 --> 00:25:35,390
♪ He told me ♪
548
00:25:35,390 --> 00:25:38,016
♪ Let the children use it ♪
549
00:25:38,016 --> 00:25:40,432
♪ Let the children lose it ♪
550
00:25:40,432 --> 00:25:42,765
♪ Let all the children boogie ♪
551
00:25:43,849 --> 00:25:46,807
- You could feel that David
552
00:25:46,807 --> 00:25:49,307
wanted to be
the greatest artist
553
00:25:49,307 --> 00:25:51,599
and the next Elvis Presley.
554
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:54,640
You could feel it from
every pore of his body.
555
00:25:58,099 --> 00:26:00,974
He would bring me
up to his suite
556
00:26:00,974 --> 00:26:05,223
and we would watch
Elvis Presley videos
557
00:26:05,223 --> 00:26:06,724
and Frank Sinatra,
558
00:26:06,724 --> 00:26:07,807
and we'd have discussions
559
00:26:07,807 --> 00:26:08,974
about it,
560
00:26:08,974 --> 00:26:10,682
and he would do certain moves,
561
00:26:10,682 --> 00:26:12,307
and does this seem right
and natural, all that.
562
00:26:12,307 --> 00:26:13,724
I mean, he was interested
563
00:26:13,724 --> 00:26:15,557
to look at those people
564
00:26:15,557 --> 00:26:17,390
and set such icons
565
00:26:17,390 --> 00:26:19,891
as his goals.
566
00:26:19,891 --> 00:26:22,141
- Oh, yes,
David wanted to be famous.
567
00:26:22,141 --> 00:26:24,807
David wanted to be an icon
568
00:26:24,807 --> 00:26:26,515
like he is now.
569
00:26:26,515 --> 00:26:28,223
He would say things to me
like
570
00:26:28,223 --> 00:26:30,807
"You have to be someone that
571
00:26:30,807 --> 00:26:32,390
"thousands and millions
572
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:33,640
"of people
573
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,515
"want to listen to
574
00:26:35,515 --> 00:26:37,557
and...and believe in."
575
00:26:42,974 --> 00:26:44,640
But he once said, too,
576
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,348
that being super-successful
577
00:26:46,348 --> 00:26:48,515
was like living
in a goldfish bowl,
578
00:26:48,515 --> 00:26:49,807
and it was for him,
579
00:26:49,807 --> 00:26:50,974
because people became
580
00:26:50,974 --> 00:26:52,724
totally obsessed with him.
581
00:26:52,724 --> 00:26:55,182
- ♪ Fame makes a man ♪
582
00:26:55,182 --> 00:26:58,099
♪ Take things over ♪
583
00:26:58,099 --> 00:27:00,016
Do you know that feeling
you get in a car
584
00:27:00,016 --> 00:27:01,724
when someone's accelerating
very, very fast,
585
00:27:01,724 --> 00:27:03,432
and you're not driving,
and you get
586
00:27:03,432 --> 00:27:05,223
that thing in your chest
when you're being
587
00:27:05,223 --> 00:27:07,141
forced backwards,
and you think, "Ooh,"
588
00:27:07,141 --> 00:27:08,932
and you're not sure
whether you like it or not?
589
00:27:08,932 --> 00:27:10,182
It's that kind of feeling.
590
00:27:10,182 --> 00:27:11,473
That's what success was like.
591
00:27:11,473 --> 00:27:13,599
The first thrust
592
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:15,974
of being totally unknown,
593
00:27:15,974 --> 00:27:18,057
to being what seemed to be
594
00:27:18,057 --> 00:27:19,974
very quickly known.
595
00:27:19,974 --> 00:27:21,932
It was very frightening for me.
596
00:27:21,932 --> 00:27:24,141
♪ Fame puts you there ♪
597
00:27:24,141 --> 00:27:25,724
♪ Where things are hollow ♪
598
00:27:28,724 --> 00:27:31,849
- I'm not sure if
he can handle it consistently,
599
00:27:31,849 --> 00:27:35,390
because it is a
demanding mistress
600
00:27:35,390 --> 00:27:37,640
that doesn't take "no"
for an answer
601
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,307
and is on-call 24 hours,
602
00:27:39,307 --> 00:27:41,057
and so it makes you
603
00:27:41,057 --> 00:27:42,348
a little bit more paranoid
604
00:27:42,348 --> 00:27:43,932
than you used to, doesn't it?
605
00:27:43,932 --> 00:27:46,182
And now we're being
looked upon
606
00:27:46,182 --> 00:27:49,307
as we have to
deliver something.
607
00:27:49,307 --> 00:27:51,016
The minute you go outside,
"Ooh, let me look
608
00:27:51,016 --> 00:27:52,724
a certain way.
I'm famous now."
609
00:27:52,724 --> 00:27:54,891
- ♪ Fame ♪
610
00:27:54,891 --> 00:27:57,891
- ♪ What you need
is in the limo ♪
611
00:27:57,891 --> 00:27:59,974
- ♪ Fame ♪
612
00:27:59,974 --> 00:28:04,057
- ♪ What you get
is no tomorrow ♪
613
00:28:04,057 --> 00:28:05,599
- ♪ Fame ♪
614
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:08,974
- ♪ What you need
you have to borrow ♪
615
00:28:08,974 --> 00:28:11,182
- ♪ Fame ♪
- ♪ Fame ♪
616
00:28:14,223 --> 00:28:16,223
- ♪ Fame ♪
- ♪ Mine, it's mine ♪
617
00:28:16,223 --> 00:28:17,515
♪ Is just his line ♪
618
00:28:17,515 --> 00:28:19,348
♪ To bind you to crime ♪
619
00:28:19,348 --> 00:28:22,099
- ♪ Crime ♪
- ♪ Crime ♪
620
00:28:22,099 --> 00:28:24,682
- Do I have to do it
for, uh...
621
00:28:24,682 --> 00:28:26,057
- Because this rock-star
thing...
622
00:28:26,057 --> 00:28:27,223
you once described it as being
623
00:28:27,223 --> 00:28:28,515
a "dreadful existence."
624
00:28:28,515 --> 00:28:29,891
- In a sort of, um,
625
00:28:29,891 --> 00:28:32,057
a very luxuriant
mental hospital...
626
00:28:32,057 --> 00:28:33,348
- So you can rehearse in...
627
00:28:33,348 --> 00:28:34,557
- Where you're sort of
628
00:28:34,557 --> 00:28:37,348
put in a padded room
629
00:28:37,348 --> 00:28:39,348
and meals are brought to you,
and the only time
630
00:28:39,348 --> 00:28:41,099
you're sort of let out
on your lead
631
00:28:41,099 --> 00:28:43,182
is when you're supposed to go
and earn money for
632
00:28:43,182 --> 00:28:45,473
just about everybody else
except yourself.
633
00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:47,390
♪ Is it any wonder ♪
634
00:28:47,390 --> 00:28:50,348
♪ I reject you first? ♪
635
00:28:50,348 --> 00:28:52,974
♪ Fame, fame, fame, fame ♪
636
00:28:52,974 --> 00:28:56,099
♪ Fame ♪
637
00:28:56,099 --> 00:28:58,016
♪ Is it any wonder ♪
638
00:28:58,016 --> 00:29:00,557
♪ You're far too cool to fool ♪
639
00:29:00,557 --> 00:29:02,515
♪ Fame ♪
- ♪ Fame ♪
640
00:29:02,515 --> 00:29:04,807
- Did David enjoy
being a star?
641
00:29:04,807 --> 00:29:07,265
I would say
what he said to me.
642
00:29:07,265 --> 00:29:08,765
"It's great
643
00:29:08,765 --> 00:29:11,682
"when you want to get tickets
for a concert,
644
00:29:11,682 --> 00:29:14,682
"when you want to get backstage
and see your friends,
645
00:29:14,682 --> 00:29:17,348
"or if you want a good table
at a restaurant,
646
00:29:17,348 --> 00:29:20,016
but the rest of the time,
it's a pain in the ass."
647
00:29:20,016 --> 00:29:21,390
And I think that's
648
00:29:21,390 --> 00:29:23,640
pretty much a verbatim quote.
649
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,016
I watched him deal with it
650
00:29:26,016 --> 00:29:27,432
too many times.
651
00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:30,724
That was his view on it.
652
00:29:30,724 --> 00:29:32,099
- I didn't...we didn't...
653
00:29:32,099 --> 00:29:35,849
- I find this
an incredible intrusion.
654
00:29:35,849 --> 00:29:38,432
Fuck off.
655
00:29:38,432 --> 00:29:39,932
- That's the...you know
that's the only bit
656
00:29:39,932 --> 00:29:40,974
we're gonna use, don't you?
657
00:29:40,974 --> 00:29:43,599
Yeah.
658
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,265
I know when to pick me lines.
659
00:29:48,932 --> 00:29:50,265
Yeah, that's better.
660
00:29:51,849 --> 00:29:54,765
- Once he experienced
the fame,
661
00:29:54,765 --> 00:29:58,348
and all that comes with that,
662
00:29:58,348 --> 00:30:01,099
I think he was
done with it.
663
00:30:01,099 --> 00:30:03,932
And he was
done with it,
664
00:30:03,932 --> 00:30:05,891
and I think he realized
665
00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:07,432
he made a deal with the devil
666
00:30:07,432 --> 00:30:09,307
and it'd be
the rest of his life
667
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:10,724
trying to undo that.
668
00:30:12,057 --> 00:30:13,348
- Happy hump day, Phil.
669
00:30:13,348 --> 00:30:16,223
- Ha! I didn't get humped. You?
670
00:30:16,223 --> 00:30:18,932
- Yeah.
671
00:30:18,932 --> 00:30:21,099
- Some people, huh?
They just get lost.
672
00:30:21,099 --> 00:30:22,599
- Well, it's more exciting
673
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:24,932
than anything we've got
around here.
674
00:30:24,932 --> 00:30:28,141
- Well, I wouldn't say that.
675
00:30:28,141 --> 00:30:30,765
We have a nice life.
676
00:30:30,765 --> 00:30:32,599
- We have a nice life.
677
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:34,057
- The idea that he had for
678
00:30:34,057 --> 00:30:36,640
"The Stars Are Out Tonight"
video
679
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,724
was that
there were celebrities
680
00:30:38,724 --> 00:30:41,765
that were stalking
normal people
681
00:30:41,765 --> 00:30:43,307
to study them,
682
00:30:43,307 --> 00:30:45,807
and then he whipped out
the photograph
683
00:30:45,807 --> 00:30:47,724
of Tilda Swinton,
684
00:30:47,724 --> 00:30:48,932
and I was like,
685
00:30:48,932 --> 00:30:50,141
"Okay, that's fantastic."
686
00:30:50,141 --> 00:30:51,390
You know, him and Tilda
687
00:30:51,390 --> 00:30:53,682
were to play the normal couple.
688
00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:58,307
David really wanted to play up
689
00:30:58,307 --> 00:30:59,807
the androgyny card,
690
00:30:59,807 --> 00:31:01,348
because, you know, I mean,
691
00:31:01,348 --> 00:31:03,307
he is the androgynous being
692
00:31:03,307 --> 00:31:05,057
that we've grown up with.
693
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:08,891
So I cast boys
in the girl's parts
694
00:31:08,891 --> 00:31:10,599
and girls in the boy's parts.
695
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:12,682
- ♪ Are never sleeping ♪
696
00:31:12,682 --> 00:31:14,974
- At that stage,
I think he was
697
00:31:14,974 --> 00:31:16,515
able to definitely
698
00:31:16,515 --> 00:31:18,682
sit back and reflect on
699
00:31:18,682 --> 00:31:20,891
what fame meant,
700
00:31:20,891 --> 00:31:23,057
and I think that song,
in a way,
701
00:31:23,057 --> 00:31:24,640
is kind of like...
that's why it's
702
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,223
"the stars are never
sleeping."
703
00:31:26,223 --> 00:31:27,849
It's like,
you can't escape it.
704
00:31:27,849 --> 00:31:30,348
- ♪ They know just what
we do ♪
705
00:31:30,348 --> 00:31:34,515
♪ That we toss and turn
at night ♪
706
00:31:34,515 --> 00:31:38,016
♪ They're waiting to make
their moves ♪
707
00:31:38,016 --> 00:31:41,223
♪ For the stars are out
tonight ♪
708
00:31:41,223 --> 00:31:44,807
- ♪ Tonight ♪
709
00:31:44,807 --> 00:31:47,057
- Eventually,
the celebrities...
710
00:31:47,057 --> 00:31:48,473
they are in their home.
711
00:31:48,473 --> 00:31:51,557
And when they come
into the home,
712
00:31:51,557 --> 00:31:54,223
there's a transfer
that happens...
713
00:31:56,390 --> 00:31:59,473
And now, the normal people
714
00:31:59,473 --> 00:32:01,557
are dressed like celebrity,
715
00:32:01,557 --> 00:32:04,390
and the celebrities
have succeeded
716
00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:07,099
in becoming the normal people.
717
00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:09,682
You know, as an artist,
you collect things,
718
00:32:09,682 --> 00:32:10,891
and he's had years of
719
00:32:10,891 --> 00:32:12,057
not having to put things out,
720
00:32:12,057 --> 00:32:13,724
and so he's collecting things
721
00:32:13,724 --> 00:32:15,265
he wants to sort of
722
00:32:15,265 --> 00:32:17,099
hold up a mirror and say,
723
00:32:17,099 --> 00:32:18,182
"Hey, look at this over here.
724
00:32:18,182 --> 00:32:19,390
Look at this over here,"
725
00:32:19,390 --> 00:32:20,599
and, you know, comment on it,
726
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:21,932
but make it, you know,
727
00:32:21,932 --> 00:32:23,099
in an artistic way.
728
00:32:26,807 --> 00:32:29,432
- ♪ The stars are out
tonight ♪
729
00:32:29,432 --> 00:32:31,849
♪ Living ♪
730
00:32:38,765 --> 00:32:40,099
- Do you ever look back?
731
00:32:40,099 --> 00:32:42,765
- Uh, only with
fond amusement,
732
00:32:42,765 --> 00:32:44,099
you know, 'cause I've done
733
00:32:44,099 --> 00:32:45,765
such a lot of work in 40 years
734
00:32:45,765 --> 00:32:47,057
and it's only recently
735
00:32:47,057 --> 00:32:48,473
that maybe I've started to
736
00:32:48,473 --> 00:32:50,265
write in a kind of, uh,
737
00:32:50,265 --> 00:32:51,849
autobiographical way,
738
00:32:51,849 --> 00:32:53,932
and this maybe something
to do with age
739
00:32:53,932 --> 00:32:56,057
and the way that one matures.
740
00:33:06,265 --> 00:33:07,473
- Then...
741
00:33:08,974 --> 00:33:10,265
I don't recall
742
00:33:10,265 --> 00:33:11,473
David on the sessions
743
00:33:11,473 --> 00:33:12,891
really talking a lot about
744
00:33:12,891 --> 00:33:14,141
being old.
745
00:33:14,141 --> 00:33:15,473
I think maybe
he would joke that
746
00:33:15,473 --> 00:33:17,307
he would wear his slippers,
you know.
747
00:33:17,307 --> 00:33:19,432
He had his slippers
brought down,
748
00:33:19,432 --> 00:33:21,307
and he would pop his slip...
you know,
749
00:33:21,307 --> 00:33:22,974
when he got to the studio,
he would pop his slippers on.
750
00:33:22,974 --> 00:33:25,307
We made a few jokes
about that.
751
00:33:25,307 --> 00:33:27,932
- ♪ Where are we now? ♪
752
00:33:27,932 --> 00:33:31,307
♪ Where are we now? ♪
753
00:33:33,557 --> 00:33:36,682
- So David came in
with a piano demo
754
00:33:38,682 --> 00:33:41,932
This was the DB piano...
David Bowie piano.
755
00:33:44,682 --> 00:33:46,348
It's got a combination
of piano
756
00:33:46,348 --> 00:33:48,348
and strings on the patch.
757
00:33:48,348 --> 00:33:50,265
I couldn't
take the strings off,
758
00:33:50,265 --> 00:33:51,682
so those strings are
759
00:33:51,682 --> 00:33:53,515
him playing at home.
760
00:33:55,473 --> 00:33:57,016
- We found
this kind of atmosphere
761
00:33:57,016 --> 00:33:58,182
in the demo.
762
00:33:58,182 --> 00:33:59,849
The next time we played that,
763
00:33:59,849 --> 00:34:01,348
it was when we went
in the studio
764
00:34:01,348 --> 00:34:02,682
and Zack was there.
765
00:34:03,849 --> 00:34:06,557
- I should add the drum.
766
00:34:08,849 --> 00:34:10,390
- David's instruction,
I remember,
767
00:34:10,390 --> 00:34:13,265
specifically was,
768
00:34:13,265 --> 00:34:16,473
"One...
769
00:34:16,473 --> 00:34:17,682
One."
770
00:34:17,682 --> 00:34:19,348
He just said,
"Emphasize the one,"
771
00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:20,765
so...
772
00:34:28,390 --> 00:34:30,348
- If I add David,
773
00:34:30,348 --> 00:34:32,265
it's practically it.
774
00:34:38,265 --> 00:34:39,473
That's...
775
00:34:39,473 --> 00:34:41,599
- ♪ Where are we now? ♪
776
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:45,307
♪ Where are we now? ♪
777
00:34:51,390 --> 00:34:53,932
♪ The moment you know ♪
778
00:34:53,932 --> 00:34:57,432
♪ You know you know ♪
779
00:34:57,432 --> 00:34:59,557
- Out of the blue,
he called me up
780
00:34:59,557 --> 00:35:03,390
and said he'd like
to talk to me about something.
781
00:35:03,390 --> 00:35:05,682
He explained this situation,
782
00:35:05,682 --> 00:35:08,724
that he had been secretly
working on this track,
783
00:35:08,724 --> 00:35:10,682
and I was like,
"Oh, that's fantastic."
784
00:35:10,682 --> 00:35:11,932
You know,
785
00:35:11,932 --> 00:35:13,473
"What do I have to do with it?"
786
00:35:13,473 --> 00:35:14,724
and he goes, "Well,
I'd like you to make
787
00:35:14,724 --> 00:35:15,932
the video for that."
788
00:35:17,473 --> 00:35:19,974
Oh, that's quite a task,
you know?
789
00:35:19,974 --> 00:35:21,473
I was thinking
790
00:35:21,473 --> 00:35:23,390
this big-budget video,
you know,
791
00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:25,599
and I was thinking,
"God, to do this justice,
792
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:26,974
"you know, it has to be this
793
00:35:26,974 --> 00:35:29,223
"momentous video, you know,
794
00:35:29,223 --> 00:35:30,765
"that's gonna break the silence
795
00:35:30,765 --> 00:35:33,141
of all these years," you know,
796
00:35:33,141 --> 00:35:34,724
and David said,
797
00:35:34,724 --> 00:35:36,141
"No, I want to do it, like,
798
00:35:36,141 --> 00:35:37,640
"in your studio.
799
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,932
"It'll be these figures.
800
00:35:39,932 --> 00:35:41,724
Very simple, rough."
801
00:35:49,390 --> 00:35:52,265
- These figures were
something I was making
802
00:35:52,265 --> 00:35:54,724
like, fairly exclusively,
803
00:35:54,724 --> 00:35:56,765
and did a number of exhibitions
of them,
804
00:35:56,765 --> 00:35:59,974
and David, of course,
loved these figures.
805
00:35:59,974 --> 00:36:01,765
You know.
806
00:36:01,765 --> 00:36:03,932
- ♪ Just walk in the day ♪
807
00:36:03,932 --> 00:36:06,515
- I did a rough sketch,
and I was like,
808
00:36:06,515 --> 00:36:08,473
"This is what
you had in mind, right?"
809
00:36:08,473 --> 00:36:11,640
This rough-hewn stretched face,
you know.
810
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,765
It's not very flattering,
811
00:36:13,765 --> 00:36:16,473
but that's exactly
what he wanted
812
00:36:16,473 --> 00:36:19,141
to look actually beyond
813
00:36:19,141 --> 00:36:22,057
what the years
had done to him.
814
00:36:22,057 --> 00:36:24,974
It's a strange...
you know, through the...
815
00:36:24,974 --> 00:36:26,640
Here, he's leaving.
816
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,182
He's had enough.
817
00:36:30,682 --> 00:36:34,182
He's like,
"Stop going on about my face."
818
00:36:34,182 --> 00:36:37,724
- ♪ Where are we now ♪
819
00:36:37,724 --> 00:36:40,348
- So the idea was that
820
00:36:40,348 --> 00:36:42,182
he wanted all this stuff
821
00:36:42,182 --> 00:36:44,515
in the studio situation,
822
00:36:44,515 --> 00:36:47,182
and we kind of arranged things
around
823
00:36:47,182 --> 00:36:50,099
and we talked about
transparency
824
00:36:50,099 --> 00:36:51,557
and reflection,
825
00:36:51,557 --> 00:36:54,682
and as this was
coming together,
826
00:36:54,682 --> 00:36:57,849
I said to him, "You know,
827
00:36:57,849 --> 00:37:00,682
people can read into
every part of this."
828
00:37:26,682 --> 00:37:31,432
- This one is perhaps the most
deliberately
829
00:37:31,432 --> 00:37:34,974
a nostalgic look into his past,
830
00:37:34,974 --> 00:37:38,307
and, um, he's talking about
all the old places...
831
00:37:38,307 --> 00:37:41,057
- Yeah.
- That he frequented in Berlin,
832
00:37:41,057 --> 00:37:42,807
and it's deliberately sad.
833
00:37:42,807 --> 00:37:45,473
He's in the latter part
of his life.
834
00:37:45,473 --> 00:37:47,057
Those days are gone.
835
00:37:47,057 --> 00:37:48,265
- Yeah.
836
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,599
- Berlin was the first freedom
I'd had from
837
00:37:56,599 --> 00:38:00,099
all the so-called
trappings of, uh, celebrity
838
00:38:00,099 --> 00:38:02,724
and, uh...and my own problems.
839
00:38:02,724 --> 00:38:05,099
Really, I'm quite fond of
840
00:38:05,099 --> 00:38:07,348
that freedom that it gave me.
841
00:38:09,265 --> 00:38:12,473
I put myself in
a very anonymous situation
842
00:38:12,473 --> 00:38:16,016
in a quite working-class part
of Berlin, Turkish area,
843
00:38:16,016 --> 00:38:18,265
and started to live
a different life,
844
00:38:18,265 --> 00:38:20,515
and I tried to distance myself
845
00:38:20,515 --> 00:38:22,765
from the very drug-oriented
lifestyle
846
00:38:22,765 --> 00:38:24,016
that I'd been leading.
847
00:38:24,016 --> 00:38:27,891
♪ Had to get the train ♪
848
00:38:27,891 --> 00:38:31,682
♪ From Potsdamer Platz ♪
849
00:38:31,682 --> 00:38:33,974
It was just a tremendous
place to be,
850
00:38:33,974 --> 00:38:36,640
and the music was
some of the most rewarding,
851
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,390
for me as an artist,
in my life.
852
00:38:43,141 --> 00:38:45,724
♪ I will be king ♪
853
00:38:49,016 --> 00:38:52,057
♪ And you ♪
854
00:38:52,057 --> 00:38:54,724
♪ You will be queen ♪
855
00:38:57,348 --> 00:38:59,807
♪ Though nothing ♪
856
00:39:01,016 --> 00:39:03,473
♪ Will drive them away ♪
857
00:39:06,348 --> 00:39:08,265
♪ We can beat them ♪
858
00:39:09,932 --> 00:39:11,932
♪ Forever and ever ♪
859
00:39:14,348 --> 00:39:16,348
♪ Oh, we can be heroes ♪
860
00:39:19,141 --> 00:39:21,348
♪ Just for one day ♪
861
00:39:24,682 --> 00:39:28,307
♪ I ♪
862
00:39:28,307 --> 00:39:30,223
♪ I can remember ♪
863
00:39:30,223 --> 00:39:32,724
- ♪ I remember ♪
864
00:39:32,724 --> 00:39:37,182
- ♪ Standing ♪
865
00:39:37,182 --> 00:39:39,016
♪ By the wall ♪
866
00:39:39,016 --> 00:39:41,348
- But you can't read
"Where Are We Now?"
867
00:39:41,348 --> 00:39:45,724
as just a nostalgic story
about Berlin at all.
868
00:39:45,724 --> 00:39:47,640
You know?
But I mean, really,
869
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,724
it's much more
how memories
870
00:39:50,724 --> 00:39:54,765
affect the way
we move forward or not.
871
00:39:58,307 --> 00:40:00,390
- The Song for Norway
T-shirt...
872
00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:02,099
I said, "That's very cheeky,"
873
00:40:02,099 --> 00:40:03,307
and he goes, "I know."
874
00:40:03,307 --> 00:40:04,557
It was something like that.
875
00:40:04,557 --> 00:40:06,473
And, uh, he never explained
876
00:40:06,473 --> 00:40:07,724
why he wore it.
877
00:40:07,724 --> 00:40:10,682
♪ ♪
878
00:40:10,682 --> 00:40:13,265
- The name is
Hermione Farthingale,
879
00:40:13,265 --> 00:40:15,016
and I absolutely adored her.
880
00:40:15,016 --> 00:40:17,932
I mean, she was the real
first love in my life,
881
00:40:17,932 --> 00:40:19,849
and she was a ballet dancer
882
00:40:19,849 --> 00:40:21,849
and, uh, a very good
l...singer,
883
00:40:21,849 --> 00:40:24,057
and, uh, she played
a little bit of
884
00:40:24,057 --> 00:40:25,891
bed/sitting room guitar.
885
00:40:25,891 --> 00:40:27,891
You know, that kind of
folk guitar that every girl
886
00:40:27,891 --> 00:40:29,891
could...that looked beautiful
could play in those...
887
00:40:29,891 --> 00:40:32,057
I don't know why,
but all the beautiful girls
888
00:40:32,057 --> 00:40:36,515
could play a little bit of
acoustic guitar.
889
00:40:36,515 --> 00:40:40,223
She was doing a film
called "Song of Norway,"
890
00:40:40,223 --> 00:40:41,932
and she fell in love
with one of
891
00:40:41,932 --> 00:40:44,390
the actors on it,
and she left me for him
892
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:48,307
God, I didn't get over that
for such a long time.
893
00:40:48,307 --> 00:40:51,182
It really broke me up.
894
00:40:51,182 --> 00:40:54,016
- I did see David when
895
00:40:54,016 --> 00:40:55,557
he'd just separated from her,
896
00:40:55,557 --> 00:40:58,473
and he was very, very upset.
897
00:40:58,473 --> 00:41:00,182
I think it was also
898
00:41:00,182 --> 00:41:01,390
he was working with her,
899
00:41:01,390 --> 00:41:02,599
so it was a double thing
900
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:04,265
that he'd lost his girlfriend
901
00:41:04,265 --> 00:41:06,473
and he'd lost someone in his...
902
00:41:06,473 --> 00:41:08,265
in his, uh, band.
903
00:41:08,265 --> 00:41:09,765
I don't know which one
was the worse,
904
00:41:09,765 --> 00:41:11,265
to be honest, but, uh,
905
00:41:11,265 --> 00:41:13,016
yeah, it hit him
pretty hard.
906
00:41:15,932 --> 00:41:18,348
- I think he wanted to
release something
907
00:41:18,348 --> 00:41:20,640
that would cause
a lot of ripples
908
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,640
and, uh, question marks
all around,
909
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,432
and he was able to get that
with this.
910
00:41:33,473 --> 00:41:35,932
- ♪ As long as there's sun ♪
911
00:41:45,141 --> 00:41:48,141
♪ As long as there's rain ♪
912
00:41:50,891 --> 00:41:54,223
♪ As long as there's fire ♪
913
00:41:56,807 --> 00:41:59,765
♪ As long as there's fire ♪
914
00:41:59,765 --> 00:42:01,515
- I knew this was
about Berlin,
915
00:42:01,515 --> 00:42:03,473
and I thought it was
really, really sweet
916
00:42:03,473 --> 00:42:06,432
and quite nostalgic,
but, uh,
917
00:42:06,432 --> 00:42:08,932
the thing that really
made me teary-eyed
918
00:42:08,932 --> 00:42:12,390
was when I saw
the video for it.
919
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:13,682
Oh, my gosh.
920
00:42:13,682 --> 00:42:15,099
You know, I thought,
921
00:42:15,099 --> 00:42:16,932
"I'd never expect him
to look back.
922
00:42:16,932 --> 00:42:18,807
You know, this is
a new thing for him."
923
00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:39,599
- I think, because of
my orientation
924
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:41,724
towards the apocalyptic,
925
00:42:41,724 --> 00:42:43,932
I think it rather hones that
926
00:42:43,932 --> 00:42:47,057
low-level anxiety,
927
00:42:47,057 --> 00:42:48,390
especially the...you know,
928
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:50,432
the event of a new child.
929
00:42:50,432 --> 00:42:53,599
My daughter really sort of
focused my
930
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:55,599
fears and apprehensions.
931
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,682
I mean, what a disappointing
21st century
932
00:42:58,682 --> 00:43:01,724
this has been so far,
you know?
933
00:43:17,849 --> 00:43:21,057
- I have to say,
this track has swagger.
934
00:43:21,057 --> 00:43:23,141
All this loose playing...
it's all on purpose.
935
00:43:23,141 --> 00:43:26,307
But we didn't want it
to get too fancy,
936
00:43:26,307 --> 00:43:28,932
and it had to sound like
a bunch of high school kids
937
00:43:28,932 --> 00:43:30,682
playing their instruments.
938
00:43:38,223 --> 00:43:39,932
Very, very cheesy-sounding,
939
00:43:39,932 --> 00:43:41,724
but perfect for this song,
940
00:43:41,724 --> 00:43:43,432
because of the lyrical content
of the song,
941
00:43:43,432 --> 00:43:45,765
about this, you know,
person called Valentine
942
00:43:45,765 --> 00:43:48,515
who, uh, is a mass murderer.
943
00:43:51,807 --> 00:43:54,265
- I mean, "Valentine's Day,"
944
00:43:54,265 --> 00:43:55,765
from a musical point of view,
945
00:43:55,765 --> 00:43:57,515
that's...that is way old.
946
00:43:57,515 --> 00:43:58,849
That's like, old-school.
947
00:43:58,849 --> 00:43:59,932
All those chord changes,
948
00:43:59,932 --> 00:44:01,265
that whole thing.
949
00:44:01,265 --> 00:44:03,348
but if you listen to
the lyrics,
950
00:44:03,348 --> 00:44:04,932
there's subject matter there.
951
00:44:04,932 --> 00:44:10,307
- ♪ Valentine told me
who's to go ♪
952
00:44:16,223 --> 00:44:21,141
♪ Feelings he's treasured
most of all ♪
953
00:44:21,141 --> 00:44:23,473
- There had been
a number of incidents
954
00:44:23,473 --> 00:44:25,390
prior to creating this song
955
00:44:25,390 --> 00:44:27,141
that had moved him.
956
00:44:27,141 --> 00:44:28,640
I think he was really troubled
957
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,348
by this trend of
958
00:44:30,348 --> 00:44:32,265
people going and shooting kids.
959
00:44:32,265 --> 00:44:36,141
- ♪ The teachers
and the football star ♪
960
00:44:38,432 --> 00:44:41,640
♪ It's in his tiny face ♪
961
00:44:43,891 --> 00:44:46,515
♪ It's in his scrawny hand ♪
962
00:44:48,807 --> 00:44:51,974
♪ Valentine told me so ♪
963
00:44:51,974 --> 00:44:54,390
♪ He's got something to say ♪
964
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:59,141
♪ It's Valentine's Day ♪
965
00:44:59,141 --> 00:45:01,016
- But he really wanted
to bring the audience
966
00:45:01,016 --> 00:45:03,141
into the mind of that killer,
967
00:45:03,141 --> 00:45:05,223
and, uh, that transition
968
00:45:05,223 --> 00:45:08,099
from sort of
the David that we know
969
00:45:08,099 --> 00:45:10,016
to this other character
970
00:45:10,016 --> 00:45:12,849
that he was inhabiting
in this song
971
00:45:12,849 --> 00:45:15,057
was, uh, very shocking,
really.
972
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,849
- ♪ Valentine told me
how he'd feel ♪
973
00:45:25,682 --> 00:45:26,807
- ♪ Ooh ♪
974
00:45:26,807 --> 00:45:28,891
- ♪ If all the world ♪
975
00:45:28,891 --> 00:45:31,932
♪ Were under his heels ♪
976
00:45:31,932 --> 00:45:33,599
- Being right there
in front of him
977
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,223
and seeing him pull this
out of himself...
978
00:45:36,223 --> 00:45:37,557
you know, it was a...
979
00:45:37,557 --> 00:45:40,640
it was quite terrifying
to watch.
980
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,307
- ♪ His tiny face ♪
981
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:47,182
♪ It's in his scrawny hands ♪
982
00:45:47,182 --> 00:45:50,724
- I really wanted to introduce
a weapon into the video,
983
00:45:50,724 --> 00:45:52,390
and David was really
against it.
984
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:53,765
He didn't want any guns,
985
00:45:53,765 --> 00:45:55,557
he didn't want any blood.
986
00:45:55,557 --> 00:45:57,932
But he was very much aware of
987
00:45:57,932 --> 00:46:00,182
making a statement about
gun control,
988
00:46:00,182 --> 00:46:03,640
and the importance of that,
in his own style.
989
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,599
- To defeat
the divisive forces
990
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:08,432
that would take freedom away,
991
00:46:08,432 --> 00:46:10,932
I want to say
those fighting words...
992
00:46:11,932 --> 00:46:15,057
"From my cold, dead hands."
993
00:46:17,557 --> 00:46:20,515
- ♪ It's in his scrawny hand ♪
994
00:46:20,515 --> 00:46:23,599
♪ It's in his icy heart ♪
995
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,432
♪ It's happening today ♪
996
00:46:25,432 --> 00:46:28,724
♪ Valentine, Valentine ♪
997
00:46:28,724 --> 00:46:30,932
- He was very interested
in society.
998
00:46:30,932 --> 00:46:33,432
You know,
what makes people operate,
999
00:46:33,432 --> 00:46:35,473
what makes societies operate,
1000
00:46:35,473 --> 00:46:38,765
and that was one of his
less cryptic
1001
00:46:38,765 --> 00:46:42,265
and more straight-up lyrics
that he's ever written.
1002
00:46:45,265 --> 00:46:46,974
- I'm not an original thinker.
1003
00:46:46,974 --> 00:46:49,891
What I'm best at doing
is, uh, synthesizing
1004
00:46:49,891 --> 00:46:52,849
those things in society
or culture
1005
00:46:52,849 --> 00:46:54,682
refracting those things
1006
00:46:54,682 --> 00:46:57,265
and producing
some kind of glob
1007
00:46:57,265 --> 00:47:00,640
of how it is that we live
at this particular time.
1008
00:47:04,265 --> 00:47:09,348
♪ Pushing through
the market square ♪
1009
00:47:09,348 --> 00:47:16,141
♪ So many mothers crying ♪
1010
00:47:16,141 --> 00:47:19,307
♪ News had just come over ♪
1011
00:47:22,265 --> 00:47:26,141
♪ We had five years left
to sigh in ♪
1012
00:47:28,932 --> 00:47:32,682
♪ News guy wept
when he told us ♪
1013
00:47:35,016 --> 00:47:37,599
♪ Earth was really dying ♪
1014
00:47:41,682 --> 00:47:46,057
♪ Cried so much
that his face was wet ♪
1015
00:47:46,057 --> 00:47:49,515
♪ That I knew
he was not lying ♪
1016
00:47:51,099 --> 00:47:53,265
- He let you know
something's not right here.
1017
00:47:53,265 --> 00:47:54,891
So that's the best I knew.
1018
00:47:54,891 --> 00:47:56,515
He didn't come up
with the solutions,
1019
00:47:56,515 --> 00:47:58,473
but at least he could express
1020
00:47:58,473 --> 00:48:01,099
and others could resonate
with that.
1021
00:48:03,807 --> 00:48:07,099
- ♪ Girl my age
went off her head ♪
1022
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:13,182
♪ Hit some tiny children ♪
1023
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,390
♪ If the black hadn't've
pulled her off ♪
1024
00:48:23,432 --> 00:48:25,891
♪ I think she would have
killed them ♪
1025
00:48:25,891 --> 00:48:28,057
I'm not a Dylan
and I'm not a...
1026
00:48:28,057 --> 00:48:30,223
I'm not somebody who can
sit down
1027
00:48:30,223 --> 00:48:32,390
and stoically write
a clear picture
1028
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:34,599
of what's happening,
1029
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:36,390
but I can leave
a very strong impression
1030
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:38,141
of how I feel about it.
1031
00:48:38,141 --> 00:48:39,432
♪ Five years ♪
1032
00:48:39,432 --> 00:48:40,724
- ♪ Five years ♪
1033
00:48:40,724 --> 00:48:43,932
- ♪ Do-do-do-do, yeah ♪
1034
00:48:43,932 --> 00:48:46,557
- ♪ Five years ♪
1035
00:48:46,557 --> 00:48:49,515
- ♪ Do-dun-a-ga-da-he-eh ♪
1036
00:48:49,515 --> 00:48:52,390
- ♪ Five years ♪
1037
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:55,557
- ♪ Didn't hear ya ♪
1038
00:48:55,557 --> 00:48:58,099
♪ Five years ♪
1039
00:48:58,099 --> 00:49:01,348
- ♪ That's all we've got ♪
1040
00:49:01,348 --> 00:49:04,223
- ♪ Five ♪
1041
00:49:23,432 --> 00:49:26,265
- It's very hard to
not continue to re-address
1042
00:49:26,265 --> 00:49:28,057
the same subject matter
endlessly.
1043
00:49:28,057 --> 00:49:30,599
I mean, I have a certain niche
that I work in,
1044
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:34,515
A lot of it, until recently,
tends to be about alienation
1045
00:49:34,515 --> 00:49:37,307
and, uh, being on the
outside of things.
1046
00:49:37,307 --> 00:49:39,557
♪ It's the darkest hour ♪
1047
00:49:42,765 --> 00:49:44,640
♪ The voice of youth ♪
1048
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,307
♪ The hour of dread ♪
1049
00:49:47,307 --> 00:49:48,849
That tends to be where
1050
00:49:48,849 --> 00:49:50,765
I feel more comfortable
as a writer,
1051
00:49:50,765 --> 00:49:52,807
but I think one keeps
re-addressing that situation
1052
00:49:52,807 --> 00:49:54,807
and trying to express it
in a different way.
1053
00:49:54,807 --> 00:49:56,599
I guess that's what I do.
1054
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:59,223
♪ Love is lost ♪
1055
00:49:59,223 --> 00:50:01,640
♪ Lost is love ♪
1056
00:50:13,974 --> 00:50:17,016
- When I spoke to David
on the phone,
1057
00:50:17,016 --> 00:50:18,473
it was definitely,
1058
00:50:18,473 --> 00:50:19,807
"Don't say a word about this."
1059
00:50:19,807 --> 00:50:20,849
In fact, we even
1060
00:50:20,849 --> 00:50:21,891
had a code word for it,
1061
00:50:21,891 --> 00:50:23,141
so if anybody
1062
00:50:23,141 --> 00:50:24,849
intercepted the phone calls,
1063
00:50:24,849 --> 00:50:26,891
they wouldn't know
we were talking about,
1064
00:50:26,891 --> 00:50:28,682
um, the album.
1065
00:50:28,682 --> 00:50:30,057
So the album was actually
1066
00:50:30,057 --> 00:50:32,932
code-named "the table."
1067
00:50:37,682 --> 00:50:39,348
There was a lot of discussion
about
1068
00:50:39,348 --> 00:50:41,099
what the album would be called
at the time.
1069
00:50:41,099 --> 00:50:42,849
It was quite gratifying
to know that
1070
00:50:42,849 --> 00:50:44,891
not even David Bowie
has everything planned out.
1071
00:50:46,557 --> 00:50:48,682
So it was possibly even called
"Love is Lost."
1072
00:50:50,515 --> 00:50:53,057
Possibly going to be called
"The Next Day,"
1073
00:50:53,057 --> 00:50:55,265
possibly called
"Where Are We Now?"
1074
00:50:55,265 --> 00:50:57,682
- ♪ Say hello
to the lunatic men ♪
1075
00:50:57,682 --> 00:51:00,348
- The thing that started
the concept for the design
1076
00:51:00,348 --> 00:51:02,432
was this photograph.
1077
00:51:02,432 --> 00:51:05,640
It's from the '70s
and he said,
1078
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,265
"I want to do something with
this photo
1079
00:51:07,265 --> 00:51:08,724
for the cover,"
1080
00:51:08,724 --> 00:51:10,390
which I found quite puzzling.
1081
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:11,765
He was looking back
on his life,
1082
00:51:11,765 --> 00:51:14,057
even looking at that image,
1083
00:51:14,057 --> 00:51:16,557
I really struggled with
using the image,
1084
00:51:16,557 --> 00:51:19,473
and then it took Bowie
to say "Jonathan,
1085
00:51:19,473 --> 00:51:21,265
"why don't you just
1086
00:51:21,265 --> 00:51:23,057
turn the image upside-down?"
1087
00:51:23,057 --> 00:51:24,473
And within that moment,
1088
00:51:24,473 --> 00:51:27,599
he subverted
his whole history
1089
00:51:30,432 --> 00:51:32,432
So the process was to go
through every record cover,
1090
00:51:32,432 --> 00:51:34,390
every printed image of him,
1091
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:36,390
and see how we could
subvert it.
1092
00:51:43,182 --> 00:51:45,432
The cover of "Heroes"
really had
1093
00:51:45,432 --> 00:51:47,265
that youthful image of Bowie
1094
00:51:47,265 --> 00:51:49,682
looking forward to the future,
1095
00:51:49,682 --> 00:51:51,932
and the square obliterates it.
1096
00:51:51,932 --> 00:51:54,932
It's existentially
talking about
1097
00:51:54,932 --> 00:51:57,307
someone who's coming
closer to the end
1098
00:51:57,307 --> 00:51:59,932
of their life
and looking back
1099
00:51:59,932 --> 00:52:02,599
on the past.
1100
00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:05,932
I really wasn't sure about it
at the time,
1101
00:52:05,932 --> 00:52:08,265
to the point, in fact,
where the night before
1102
00:52:08,265 --> 00:52:09,807
it was sent off
to the record company,
1103
00:52:09,807 --> 00:52:11,682
I wrote to him and said,
"Are you sure?"
1104
00:52:11,682 --> 00:52:13,016
And he actually said to me,
1105
00:52:13,016 --> 00:52:14,765
"No, this is...have faith,
Jonathan.
1106
00:52:14,765 --> 00:52:15,932
"This is a good idea.
1107
00:52:15,932 --> 00:52:17,932
It's an original idea."
1108
00:52:17,932 --> 00:52:20,765
- ♪ I'd rather be high ♪
1109
00:52:20,765 --> 00:52:23,432
- I think he was subverting
people's expectation
1110
00:52:23,432 --> 00:52:26,640
because of the years away,
1111
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,765
so he could play
with his image.
1112
00:52:28,765 --> 00:52:30,640
He wasn't a young man
1113
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,348
desperate to be original.
1114
00:52:33,348 --> 00:52:36,432
He was someone
who lived life
1115
00:52:36,432 --> 00:52:39,016
and was not up for
playing the game
1116
00:52:39,016 --> 00:52:40,807
of being in the media
all the time.
1117
00:52:46,599 --> 00:52:48,099
Bowie was incredibly happy
1118
00:52:48,099 --> 00:52:49,849
that we'd managed to
1119
00:52:49,849 --> 00:52:52,099
keep this thing secret
all this time.
1120
00:52:52,099 --> 00:52:54,640
We had accomplished something
unique
1121
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,974
in a time when everybody
1122
00:52:56,974 --> 00:53:00,307
knows everything.
1123
00:53:00,307 --> 00:53:02,849
He was quite attracted to
1124
00:53:02,849 --> 00:53:06,348
all the furore
around an album being released,
1125
00:53:06,348 --> 00:53:08,682
but he wanted to play it
the right way.
1126
00:53:11,223 --> 00:53:13,016
- ♪ Then we saw ♪
1127
00:53:13,016 --> 00:53:15,849
- Hello, David Bowie's
back in sound and vision,
1128
00:53:15,849 --> 00:53:17,849
with his first new album
in a decade.
1129
00:53:17,849 --> 00:53:20,348
- He hasn't performed
since 2006,
1130
00:53:20,348 --> 00:53:22,057
and has rarely been
seen in public
1131
00:53:22,057 --> 00:53:23,932
since then,
but now he's back.
1132
00:53:23,932 --> 00:53:25,640
- But after a bout of
ill health,
1133
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,849
it was thought he had retired.
Wrong.
1134
00:53:27,849 --> 00:53:30,141
- His new album,
his first in ten years,
1135
00:53:30,141 --> 00:53:32,640
shot to the number one spot
last weekend.
1136
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,182
In fact, it's the fastest-
selling of the year so far,
1137
00:53:35,182 --> 00:53:38,182
having shifted
over 100,000 copies
1138
00:53:38,182 --> 00:53:39,974
in less than two weeks.
1139
00:53:39,974 --> 00:53:44,432
- ♪ The night was always
falling ♪
1140
00:53:44,432 --> 00:53:47,557
♪ The peacock in the snow ♪
1141
00:53:49,223 --> 00:53:53,557
♪ And I tell myself ♪
1142
00:53:53,557 --> 00:53:57,141
♪ I don't know who I am ♪
1143
00:54:00,057 --> 00:54:01,974
- He just stopped
giving interviews
1144
00:54:01,974 --> 00:54:03,557
many years ago,
1145
00:54:03,557 --> 00:54:05,557
and, um,
this is something that
1146
00:54:05,557 --> 00:54:08,473
he needed to do, I think,
for himself.
1147
00:54:08,473 --> 00:54:10,765
He couldn't...he couldn't
have his life examined
1148
00:54:10,765 --> 00:54:12,223
any longer.
He didn't want
1149
00:54:12,223 --> 00:54:13,891
any speculation about his life.
1150
00:54:33,974 --> 00:54:35,849
- I think it's
terribly dangerous
1151
00:54:35,849 --> 00:54:39,182
for an artist to fulfill
other people's expectations.
1152
00:54:39,182 --> 00:54:40,557
If you feel safe
1153
00:54:40,557 --> 00:54:42,099
in the area
that you're working in,
1154
00:54:42,099 --> 00:54:43,891
you're not working
in the right area.
1155
00:54:43,891 --> 00:54:46,182
Always go a little further
into the water
1156
00:54:46,182 --> 00:54:48,515
than you feel you're capable
of being in.
1157
00:54:48,515 --> 00:54:50,265
Go a little bit out of
your depth,
1158
00:54:50,265 --> 00:54:52,057
and you don't feel that
your feet are
1159
00:54:52,057 --> 00:54:53,640
quite touching the bottom,
1160
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,057
you're just about
in the right place
1161
00:54:55,057 --> 00:54:56,473
to do something exciting.
1162
00:54:58,765 --> 00:55:00,307
- The way David works.
1163
00:55:00,307 --> 00:55:02,724
He just keeps evolving,
evolving, evolving.
1164
00:55:02,724 --> 00:55:05,182
David's always looking
for that new element
1165
00:55:05,182 --> 00:55:06,765
and unique musicians
1166
00:55:06,765 --> 00:55:07,932
to be the carriage
1167
00:55:07,932 --> 00:55:09,599
for his new ideas.
1168
00:55:12,807 --> 00:55:16,557
Maria Schneider is
an amazing jazz composer
1169
00:55:16,557 --> 00:55:18,515
and how she could've been
off my radar,
1170
00:55:18,515 --> 00:55:20,473
I don't...I don't know,
because,
1171
00:55:20,473 --> 00:55:24,640
uh, she suddenly appeared
in my life through David.
1172
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,141
And when I heard
her compositions,
1173
00:55:27,141 --> 00:55:29,141
it was everything
David and I loved
1174
00:55:29,141 --> 00:55:30,515
about big band music:
1175
00:55:30,515 --> 00:55:32,141
that it was discordant
1176
00:55:32,141 --> 00:55:35,307
and strange and ethereal.
1177
00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:46,182
- Out of the blue,
David called.
1178
00:55:46,182 --> 00:55:47,682
I said, "Hello?"
1179
00:55:47,682 --> 00:55:49,307
Then...and then
1180
00:55:49,307 --> 00:55:52,016
proceeded to start
to talk to him about
1181
00:55:52,016 --> 00:55:53,849
the idea, uh, that he had
1182
00:55:53,849 --> 00:55:55,640
to collaborate on a song.
1183
00:56:00,182 --> 00:56:02,807
David brought a little demo
of "Sue,"
1184
00:56:02,807 --> 00:56:05,099
so I listened to it
1185
00:56:05,099 --> 00:56:07,099
and immediately heard this:
1186
00:56:10,057 --> 00:56:13,891
I said, "Where do you want
this to go?"
1187
00:56:13,891 --> 00:56:16,348
So it's...
it's pretty bright...
1188
00:56:16,348 --> 00:56:18,141
you know, sounding,
and he said, "Oh,
1189
00:56:18,141 --> 00:56:19,640
I want it to be really dark."
1190
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,473
So then I started
playing around with
1191
00:56:22,473 --> 00:56:25,016
ways in which I could
make that...
1192
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:27,682
That melody dark,
1193
00:56:27,682 --> 00:56:29,099
and I just fooled around
over here
1194
00:56:29,099 --> 00:56:30,765
and then I looked at him
and I said,
1195
00:56:30,765 --> 00:56:34,724
"Okay, let's try this."
1196
00:56:34,724 --> 00:56:36,640
- Maria Schneider said,
1197
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,390
"You have to listen
to this guy, Donny McCaslin."
1198
00:56:39,390 --> 00:56:41,223
Donny had a band.
1199
00:56:44,307 --> 00:56:46,891
This band were
trained jazz musicians,
1200
00:56:46,891 --> 00:56:50,348
so we had more colors
to the palette.
1201
00:56:53,057 --> 00:56:55,057
- Then I just worked on it
on my own a little bit.
1202
00:56:55,057 --> 00:56:57,141
And then David came over,
1203
00:56:57,141 --> 00:56:58,724
and then I presented him
1204
00:56:58,724 --> 00:57:00,515
with all these sketches
of ideas
1205
00:57:00,515 --> 00:57:02,057
and said, "Okay,
1206
00:57:02,057 --> 00:57:04,557
let me play you
lots of different things,"
1207
00:57:04,557 --> 00:57:06,307
and he would either say,
1208
00:57:06,307 --> 00:57:08,724
"Yeah, yeah, I r...
Oh, I really like that."
1209
00:57:08,724 --> 00:57:11,390
You know, if it had got
a real reaction of him...
1210
00:57:11,390 --> 00:57:14,016
from him, then I said,
"Okay, maybe that's
1211
00:57:14,016 --> 00:57:15,557
the direction,"
so I just kind of
1212
00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:17,265
tried to feel him out.
1213
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:32,932
- It was adventure.
1214
00:57:32,932 --> 00:57:34,432
Adventure, adventure.
1215
00:57:34,432 --> 00:57:35,891
Let's try this, let's try that.
1216
00:57:35,891 --> 00:57:37,891
Let's make it as far-out
as possible.
1217
00:57:37,891 --> 00:57:40,390
Let's go somewhere
no one's ever gone before.
1218
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:41,348
You know?
1219
00:57:43,891 --> 00:57:45,473
- I mean, recording it
was, like,
1220
00:57:45,473 --> 00:57:46,932
six hours or something...
1221
00:57:46,932 --> 00:57:49,307
- Yeah.
- So he comes out,
1222
00:57:49,307 --> 00:57:53,099
then he lays down
the vocal for the whole song,
1223
00:57:53,099 --> 00:57:54,974
seven, eight minutes,
1224
00:57:54,974 --> 00:57:56,640
so he's been in the studio
all day long...
1225
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,057
- Just sitting there.
1226
00:57:58,057 --> 00:57:59,432
- You know,
we're just sitting there,
1227
00:57:59,432 --> 00:58:01,223
listening...you know,
taking this all in,
1228
00:58:01,223 --> 00:58:03,307
goes out, a little
one-two-three on the mic,
1229
00:58:03,307 --> 00:58:04,473
and then, boom.
1230
00:58:04,473 --> 00:58:06,473
- ♪ Sue ♪
1231
00:58:08,724 --> 00:58:12,390
♪ I got the job ♪
1232
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:21,724
♪ We'll buy the house ♪
1233
00:58:21,724 --> 00:58:24,348
♪ You'll need to rest ♪
1234
00:58:24,348 --> 00:58:30,682
♪ But now we'll make it ♪
1235
00:58:30,682 --> 00:58:32,682
- So I remember
doing this interview
1236
00:58:32,682 --> 00:58:33,807
with Tony Visconti.
1237
00:58:33,807 --> 00:58:35,682
The interviewer asked us both,
1238
00:58:35,682 --> 00:58:38,682
you know, what was David's
relationship to jazz music,
1239
00:58:38,682 --> 00:58:39,849
something like that,
1240
00:58:39,849 --> 00:58:41,515
and Tony's response was that
1241
00:58:41,515 --> 00:58:43,682
he thought that that influence
1242
00:58:43,682 --> 00:58:46,432
had always been there
in David's music,
1243
00:58:46,432 --> 00:58:48,682
but it was just sort of
underneath the surface,
1244
00:58:48,682 --> 00:58:50,432
and that now, it was just,
1245
00:58:50,432 --> 00:58:51,557
you know, out there.
1246
00:58:52,932 --> 00:58:57,473
- ♪ Sue, I pushed you down ♪
1247
00:58:57,473 --> 00:59:00,141
♪ Beneath the weeds ♪
1248
00:59:00,141 --> 00:59:01,891
♪ Endless faith ♪
1249
00:59:01,891 --> 00:59:05,141
♪ In hopeless deeds ♪
1250
00:59:05,141 --> 00:59:07,099
- Of course, when this thing
was released,
1251
00:59:07,099 --> 00:59:08,932
there were
all sorts of comments.
1252
00:59:08,932 --> 00:59:12,099
Some people were just
absolutely hating it
1253
00:59:12,099 --> 00:59:13,807
and some people
were loving it
1254
00:59:13,807 --> 00:59:15,682
and some people
didn't know what to think.
1255
00:59:17,932 --> 00:59:22,182
- ♪ Good-bye ♪
1256
00:59:22,182 --> 00:59:23,932
- This is David Bowie.
1257
00:59:23,932 --> 00:59:27,432
He's not gonna pigeonhole
even himself.
1258
00:59:27,432 --> 00:59:29,473
Imagine how ridiculous
he would have looked,
1259
00:59:29,473 --> 00:59:31,557
you know, if he kept
dyeing his hair orange
1260
00:59:31,557 --> 00:59:33,432
and he was 65 years old
1261
00:59:33,432 --> 00:59:35,557
with orange hair
1262
00:59:35,557 --> 00:59:37,223
and platform shoes, you know.
1263
00:59:37,223 --> 00:59:41,473
He was smart.
1264
00:59:47,432 --> 00:59:50,765
The radical shift between
"Sue" and "The Next Day"
1265
00:59:50,765 --> 00:59:54,390
is like when he did the, uh,
ambient music
1266
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:55,640
of "Low" and "Heroes"
1267
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,182
with Brian Eno.
1268
00:59:58,182 --> 01:00:01,390
♪ Dun-dun-dun-dun.... ♪
1269
01:00:02,807 --> 01:00:04,348
Oh... And he'll play that
again.
1270
01:00:04,348 --> 01:00:06,473
♪ Dun, dun, dun, dun ♪
1271
01:00:06,473 --> 01:00:09,515
Oh, wow, I'm feeling low.
1272
01:00:10,932 --> 01:00:12,515
Brian Eno's methodology
1273
01:00:12,515 --> 01:00:13,932
is a little bit different
1274
01:00:13,932 --> 01:00:15,141
than any methodology
1275
01:00:15,141 --> 01:00:16,640
I've ever encountered.
1276
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,849
That's not rock and roll.
1277
01:00:18,849 --> 01:00:21,265
Rock and roll is, "Hey, man,
I got this great riff.
1278
01:00:21,265 --> 01:00:23,141
Listen to this."
1279
01:00:23,141 --> 01:00:24,640
You know?
1280
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,390
But when you start
experimenting
1281
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:27,849
with soundscapes,
1282
01:00:27,849 --> 01:00:29,348
which is what they were doing,
1283
01:00:29,348 --> 01:00:32,932
it makes other things
come to light.
1284
01:00:34,765 --> 01:00:38,432
David was listening to
a few German bands back then
1285
01:00:38,432 --> 01:00:40,432
that were at the epicenter
1286
01:00:40,432 --> 01:00:42,141
of electronic music,
1287
01:00:42,141 --> 01:00:43,682
and I think that the
1288
01:00:43,682 --> 01:00:45,640
elec-tronic-al part
1289
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:46,640
was too much.
1290
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,141
That's why he had a R&B, a...
1291
01:00:48,141 --> 01:00:49,891
a black rhythm section,
1292
01:00:49,891 --> 01:00:52,557
being, "You want a machine?
1293
01:00:52,557 --> 01:00:54,182
Let me give you a funk band."
1294
01:00:57,099 --> 01:00:59,765
But I'll add
all the electronic stuff
1295
01:00:59,765 --> 01:01:01,348
on top of that.
1296
01:01:01,348 --> 01:01:04,473
Otherwise, he might
take the chance of
1297
01:01:04,473 --> 01:01:08,807
sounding like European
1298
01:01:08,807 --> 01:01:10,099
electronic music,
1299
01:01:10,099 --> 01:01:12,515
which he did not
want to reproduce.
1300
01:01:15,265 --> 01:01:17,016
- I'd gotten into the idea
1301
01:01:17,016 --> 01:01:18,974
of real experimentation
in music,
1302
01:01:18,974 --> 01:01:20,557
with the new sounds of Europe
1303
01:01:20,557 --> 01:01:22,974
and it was this kind of
hybrid thing
1304
01:01:22,974 --> 01:01:24,473
that appealed to me so much.
1305
01:01:24,473 --> 01:01:26,223
The idea of mixtures
1306
01:01:26,223 --> 01:01:28,348
has always been something
that I've found
1307
01:01:28,348 --> 01:01:30,599
absolutely fascinating.
1308
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:33,016
♪ Blue, blue, electric blue ♪
1309
01:01:33,016 --> 01:01:35,724
♪ That's the color of my room ♪
1310
01:01:35,724 --> 01:01:37,265
♪ Where I will live ♪
1311
01:01:39,515 --> 01:01:41,640
♪ Blue, blue ♪
1312
01:01:44,765 --> 01:01:47,099
♪ Pale blinds drawn all day ♪
1313
01:01:47,099 --> 01:01:49,682
♪ Nothing to do,
nothing to say ♪
1314
01:01:53,682 --> 01:01:55,348
♪ Blue, blue ♪
1315
01:01:59,016 --> 01:02:01,265
♪ I will sit right down ♪
1316
01:02:01,265 --> 01:02:04,640
♪ Waiting for
the gift of sound and vision ♪
1317
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,141
- I was just amazed that
1318
01:02:06,141 --> 01:02:08,223
David was the kind of person
that he was,
1319
01:02:08,223 --> 01:02:10,016
because I wasn't expecting
that.
1320
01:02:10,016 --> 01:02:12,807
I was expecting something
sort of
1321
01:02:12,807 --> 01:02:16,016
superhuman, strange,
walking in
1322
01:02:16,016 --> 01:02:18,724
and he presented himself
so normal.
1323
01:02:18,724 --> 01:02:19,932
As a matter of fact,
1324
01:02:19,932 --> 01:02:22,057
the doorman from downstairs
1325
01:02:22,057 --> 01:02:23,390
called me and said,
1326
01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:25,099
"There's a...what?
What's your name?
1327
01:02:25,099 --> 01:02:27,057
Oh, David, here to see you."
1328
01:02:27,057 --> 01:02:29,016
And I thought, "Oh, dear."
1329
01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:38,599
Can I just stop a second?
Did I just say he was normal?
1330
01:02:38,599 --> 01:02:41,348
There's really nothing normal
about David Bowie.
1331
01:02:41,348 --> 01:02:43,891
You know?
But anyway...
1332
01:03:07,099 --> 01:03:08,891
- When I was around 17, 18,
1333
01:03:08,891 --> 01:03:10,891
what I wanted to do,
more than anything else,
1334
01:03:10,891 --> 01:03:13,265
was write something
for Broadway.
1335
01:03:13,265 --> 01:03:14,640
I wanted to write a musical.
1336
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,265
Had no idea
of how you did it
1337
01:03:17,265 --> 01:03:19,016
or how musicals were
constructed,
1338
01:03:19,016 --> 01:03:21,932
but the idea of writing
something
1339
01:03:21,932 --> 01:03:24,599
that was rock-based
for Broadway
1340
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:26,265
really intrigued me.
I thought, "That would be
1341
01:03:26,265 --> 01:03:27,932
a wonderful thing to do."
1342
01:03:30,348 --> 01:03:34,016
- When we first talked
quite quickly
1343
01:03:34,016 --> 01:03:35,724
he said,
1344
01:03:35,724 --> 01:03:37,765
"I wanna do a musical,"
1345
01:03:37,765 --> 01:03:39,974
and I said, "Great,"
1346
01:03:39,974 --> 01:03:41,849
and he said, "All I know
1347
01:03:41,849 --> 01:03:43,307
"is that it's called Laz...
1348
01:03:43,307 --> 01:03:45,932
"it's gonna be called
'Lazarus,'
1349
01:03:45,932 --> 01:03:47,849
"and it's based on
the character I played
1350
01:03:47,849 --> 01:03:49,682
"in 'The Man Who Fell
to Earth'
1351
01:03:49,682 --> 01:03:52,515
in the movie,
Thomas Jerome Newton."
1352
01:03:56,473 --> 01:03:59,265
- Thomas Newton is an alien.
1353
01:03:59,265 --> 01:04:00,765
He can't get home.
1354
01:04:00,765 --> 01:04:02,640
He's relegated to this Earth.
1355
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,682
He is in the world,
but not of it.
1356
01:04:08,182 --> 01:04:11,599
- Outsiders,
marginalized people,
1357
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:13,849
people that don't belong,
1358
01:04:13,849 --> 01:04:15,099
that are disp...
1359
01:04:15,099 --> 01:04:16,849
that feel displaced,
1360
01:04:16,849 --> 01:04:17,849
not at home,
1361
01:04:17,849 --> 01:04:18,891
even when they have a house,
1362
01:04:18,891 --> 01:04:20,099
like Newton.
1363
01:04:20,099 --> 01:04:21,473
Rich, you know, on Earth,
1364
01:04:21,473 --> 01:04:23,599
but lost on Earth.
1365
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:24,849
It resonated with him.
1366
01:04:28,182 --> 01:04:30,807
- My initial reaction was,
1367
01:04:30,807 --> 01:04:33,016
"I've got the chance
to do a musical
1368
01:04:33,016 --> 01:04:35,348
"with David,
which is wonderful,
1369
01:04:35,348 --> 01:04:38,223
but it sure ain't
gonna buy me a yacht."
1370
01:04:38,223 --> 01:04:40,682
♪ Oh, say, can you see ♪
1371
01:04:40,682 --> 01:04:44,057
- That was my amused comment
to myself,
1372
01:04:44,057 --> 01:04:46,515
but he said,
"I want to see this,"
1373
01:04:46,515 --> 01:04:48,016
you know, "I want this on."
1374
01:04:48,016 --> 01:04:50,016
- Okay.
1375
01:04:50,016 --> 01:04:52,849
So, uh, thank you very much,
Sophia.
1376
01:04:52,849 --> 01:04:57,016
- Just before
we were due to start
1377
01:04:57,016 --> 01:04:59,057
a small workshop,
1378
01:04:59,057 --> 01:05:02,390
I was asked to go to
David's office in New York
1379
01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:04,307
at a specific time,
1380
01:05:04,307 --> 01:05:06,432
and when I walked in the room,
1381
01:05:06,432 --> 01:05:10,724
David was on Skype,
1382
01:05:10,724 --> 01:05:14,057
and then he said, "I need
to explain something to you,
1383
01:05:14,057 --> 01:05:16,640
"because I'm not gonna be
1384
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,891
"able to be around a lot
1385
01:05:18,891 --> 01:05:21,515
"during this workshop.
1386
01:05:21,515 --> 01:05:23,223
"Which doesn't mean that I'm
1387
01:05:23,223 --> 01:05:26,099
"not gonna be totally involved
in it.
1388
01:05:26,099 --> 01:05:29,849
"It just means that I
can't be there sometimes,
1389
01:05:29,849 --> 01:05:32,016
"because I'm having treatment
1390
01:05:32,016 --> 01:05:35,932
because I have, uh, a cancer."
1391
01:05:38,891 --> 01:05:40,640
I was shocked,
1392
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,891
but his attitude was
1393
01:05:41,891 --> 01:05:44,099
that he was gonna be okay.
1394
01:05:44,099 --> 01:05:47,432
And that was kind of the end of
the conversation.
1395
01:05:47,432 --> 01:05:49,974
- I'm here to get you out
of this apartment!
1396
01:05:49,974 --> 01:05:51,974
Get you home to your planet!
1397
01:05:51,974 --> 01:05:53,640
I think we should build
a rocket!
1398
01:05:56,599 --> 01:05:58,599
- But of course,
once we started,
1399
01:05:58,599 --> 01:05:59,974
sort of, rehearsal,
1400
01:05:59,974 --> 01:06:01,640
he was there a lot.
1401
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,265
He was sort of in and out
and in and out,
1402
01:06:03,265 --> 01:06:04,765
you know, so...
1403
01:06:06,265 --> 01:06:08,515
So he would go,
"Oh, let's remove that
1404
01:06:08,515 --> 01:06:11,099
"scene, and can I write a...
can I write a song?
1405
01:06:11,099 --> 01:06:12,849
I feel as if I should
write a song here,"
1406
01:06:12,849 --> 01:06:14,265
and he was really excited
about that.
1407
01:06:16,557 --> 01:06:19,432
- He was ill, and, um,
he said, uh,
1408
01:06:19,432 --> 01:06:22,141
writing the musical
was on his bucket list.
1409
01:06:22,141 --> 01:06:24,974
You know, getting
finally writing a musical
1410
01:06:24,974 --> 01:06:26,057
and all that.
1411
01:06:26,057 --> 01:06:27,765
So that's the only time
1412
01:06:27,765 --> 01:06:29,974
he got a little bit, you know,
sentimental, maybe,
1413
01:06:29,974 --> 01:06:32,016
like I've got to do
these things.
1414
01:06:32,016 --> 01:06:34,974
- Stupid animal!
Stupid creature!
1415
01:06:34,974 --> 01:06:37,099
- Why don't you tell me
what's going on?
1416
01:06:37,099 --> 01:06:40,223
- Because I can't.
1417
01:06:40,223 --> 01:06:43,432
- I think that David
intended it to be a play
1418
01:06:43,432 --> 01:06:45,473
that's supported by music,
1419
01:06:45,473 --> 01:06:49,265
rather than a musical
that's supported by dialogue.
1420
01:06:49,265 --> 01:06:53,307
- ♪ But the film is a saddening
bore ♪
1421
01:06:53,307 --> 01:06:55,849
- It's about as far from
a typical West End
1422
01:06:55,849 --> 01:06:57,473
or Broadway show
as you could get.
1423
01:06:57,473 --> 01:07:01,182
He wanted this to be
an art piece.
1424
01:07:01,182 --> 01:07:03,682
- ♪ As I ask you to focus ♪
1425
01:07:03,682 --> 01:07:08,348
♪ Sailors fighting
in the dance hall ♪
1426
01:07:08,348 --> 01:07:14,265
♪ Oh, man, look at
those cavemen go ♪
1427
01:07:14,265 --> 01:07:17,016
♪ It's the freakiest show ♪
1428
01:07:17,016 --> 01:07:19,515
- I'd heard that he wanted
to do a musical since...
1429
01:07:19,515 --> 01:07:22,182
someone said the mid-'70s
or something or other,
1430
01:07:22,182 --> 01:07:24,515
and I thought, "Oh, God,
1431
01:07:24,515 --> 01:07:26,099
"we're beginning something
that feels
1432
01:07:26,099 --> 01:07:28,016
"very, very close to his heart
1433
01:07:28,016 --> 01:07:29,849
and his head
and where he's at."
1434
01:07:38,891 --> 01:07:40,682
- ♪ Ronda ♪
1435
01:07:40,682 --> 01:07:42,724
I really had it in my mind
1436
01:07:42,724 --> 01:07:45,974
to do a musical of "1984."
1437
01:07:45,974 --> 01:07:48,724
It was a book that I'd loved
all through my youth,
1438
01:07:48,724 --> 01:07:52,057
but of course, I didn't really
take into account
1439
01:07:52,057 --> 01:07:53,849
the second Mrs. Orwell,
1440
01:07:53,849 --> 01:07:55,891
who, when she got wind
of what we were doing,
1441
01:07:55,891 --> 01:07:57,515
absolutely put her foot down
and said,
1442
01:07:57,515 --> 01:07:58,974
"Not having
rock-and-roll people
1443
01:07:58,974 --> 01:08:01,099
"work on my late husband's
1444
01:08:01,099 --> 01:08:02,307
great piece of work."
1445
01:08:02,307 --> 01:08:03,891
And I thought, "Oh,
1446
01:08:03,891 --> 01:08:05,974
sorry,
I'll do me own version then."
1447
01:08:05,974 --> 01:08:07,307
- That's a naught.
1448
01:08:07,307 --> 01:08:08,682
- 2015!
1449
01:08:08,682 --> 01:08:10,099
- This is the beginning
of a film
1450
01:08:10,099 --> 01:08:11,432
called "Diamond Dogs,"
1451
01:08:11,432 --> 01:08:13,057
and I've put naught in here
1452
01:08:13,057 --> 01:08:16,057
because I didn't know
what year it's set in.
1453
01:08:16,057 --> 01:08:17,515
- Wanting to do something
1454
01:08:17,515 --> 01:08:19,974
like write a musical
for "1984"
1455
01:08:19,974 --> 01:08:21,640
and then not being able
to do it,
1456
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,682
via the album "Diamond Dogs,"
1457
01:08:24,682 --> 01:08:26,891
kind of gelled into this thing
1458
01:08:26,891 --> 01:08:29,099
that we later toured
in America.
1459
01:08:32,265 --> 01:08:34,265
- David had the idea of
1460
01:08:34,265 --> 01:08:37,099
using dance and mime,
1461
01:08:37,099 --> 01:08:40,099
uh, with two vocalists,
1462
01:08:40,099 --> 01:08:43,724
myself being one...
1463
01:08:43,724 --> 01:08:45,348
- ♪ Jean Genie ♪
1464
01:08:45,348 --> 01:08:47,016
- And Gui Andrisano,
1465
01:08:47,016 --> 01:08:49,265
who had been a child star.
1466
01:09:02,765 --> 01:09:05,515
It kind of worked with
the input that we had
1467
01:09:05,515 --> 01:09:07,599
from Toni Basil,
1468
01:09:07,599 --> 01:09:11,432
in terms of choreography.
1469
01:09:11,432 --> 01:09:14,974
- But when I met him
the first day
1470
01:09:14,974 --> 01:09:17,307
in his hotel suite,
1471
01:09:17,307 --> 01:09:19,432
the set was there.
1472
01:09:19,432 --> 01:09:22,099
The set was already
a little mock-up set.
1473
01:09:22,099 --> 01:09:25,765
- ♪ We feel that we are paper ♪
1474
01:09:25,765 --> 01:09:28,765
♪ Choking on you nightly ♪
1475
01:09:28,765 --> 01:09:32,307
♪ They tell me,
son, we want you ♪
1476
01:09:32,307 --> 01:09:35,807
♪ Be elusive,
but don't walk far ♪
1477
01:09:35,807 --> 01:09:36,932
♪ For we're ♪
1478
01:09:36,932 --> 01:09:39,057
- He had the cityscape
1479
01:09:39,057 --> 01:09:40,599
and a set list.
1480
01:09:40,599 --> 01:09:43,016
So for me,
1481
01:09:43,016 --> 01:09:46,765
the set list was my thread
1482
01:09:46,765 --> 01:09:51,307
of what ideas
I could come up with
1483
01:09:51,307 --> 01:09:54,182
in collaboration with him
1484
01:09:54,182 --> 01:09:57,432
to make this theatrical piece
happen.
1485
01:09:57,432 --> 01:09:59,016
- ♪ But I love you ♪
1486
01:09:59,016 --> 01:10:00,765
♪ In your fuck-me pumps ♪
1487
01:10:00,765 --> 01:10:03,807
♪ And your nimble dress
that trails ♪
1488
01:10:03,807 --> 01:10:05,891
♪ Oh dress yourself ♪
1489
01:10:05,891 --> 01:10:08,473
- At that time,
there was not
1490
01:10:08,473 --> 01:10:11,099
really a lot of rock stars
1491
01:10:11,099 --> 01:10:14,016
that focused on theatricality.
1492
01:10:14,016 --> 01:10:15,849
A lot of them thought
it was corny,
1493
01:10:15,849 --> 01:10:18,099
or they were afraid
to approach it.
1494
01:10:18,099 --> 01:10:22,099
So I knew he was
a great performer,
1495
01:10:22,099 --> 01:10:23,932
extremely theatrical,
1496
01:10:23,932 --> 01:10:27,599
that would just always be
outside the box,
1497
01:10:27,599 --> 01:10:29,807
always be walking on the edge.
1498
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,599
- ♪ In the year
of the scavenger ♪
1499
01:10:39,599 --> 01:10:41,432
♪ The season of the bitch ♪
1500
01:10:41,432 --> 01:10:43,557
♪ Sashay on the boardwalk ♪
1501
01:10:43,557 --> 01:10:45,307
♪ Scurry to the ditch ♪
1502
01:10:45,307 --> 01:10:47,390
♪ Just another future song ♪
1503
01:10:47,390 --> 01:10:49,057
♪ Lonely little kitsch ♪
1504
01:10:49,057 --> 01:10:51,515
- "Diamond Dogs" was
probably the most difficult
1505
01:10:51,515 --> 01:10:53,724
one to choreograph,
because
1506
01:10:53,724 --> 01:10:56,141
we were on long pieces of
rope.
1507
01:10:56,141 --> 01:10:58,141
and the idea was to
1508
01:10:58,141 --> 01:10:59,599
tie him down
1509
01:10:59,599 --> 01:11:02,223
without fully disabling him
1510
01:11:02,223 --> 01:11:04,974
and, uh, tripping him up.
1511
01:11:07,599 --> 01:11:10,265
- ♪ There you go
Whoo ♪
1512
01:11:10,265 --> 01:11:12,599
♪ Call them the diamond dogs ♪
1513
01:11:12,599 --> 01:11:14,932
It was hideously pressurized
for me.
1514
01:11:14,932 --> 01:11:16,932
I had these awful tensions
and stresses
1515
01:11:16,932 --> 01:11:19,849
but the physicality
of performing a show like that
1516
01:11:19,849 --> 01:11:22,557
was alarmingly strenuous.
1517
01:11:22,557 --> 01:11:24,432
♪ Oh, honey ♪
1518
01:11:24,432 --> 01:11:26,432
♪ You're so bad ♪
1519
01:11:26,432 --> 01:11:30,432
- "Diamond Dogs" is
a series of vignettes
1520
01:11:30,432 --> 01:11:32,640
of what could happen
1521
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,640
when society breaks down,
1522
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,390
so it was more sketchy,
1523
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:38,932
rather than a story
from beginning to end.
1524
01:11:42,807 --> 01:11:44,932
- I started getting into
the idea of writing
1525
01:11:44,932 --> 01:11:47,515
a kind of a non-narrative
1526
01:11:47,515 --> 01:11:50,099
that just had situations
within it
1527
01:11:50,099 --> 01:11:52,099
and the audience kind of
joins up the dots
1528
01:11:52,099 --> 01:11:53,390
their own way, in the way
1529
01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:54,891
they want to make it.
1530
01:11:54,891 --> 01:11:58,223
They'd remake the material
they're offered.
1531
01:11:58,223 --> 01:12:01,557
♪ Just one day, I say ♪
1532
01:12:01,557 --> 01:12:03,141
♪ Oh, honey ♪
1533
01:12:03,141 --> 01:12:06,141
♪ You're so bad ♪
1534
01:12:06,141 --> 01:12:08,974
♪ Best I ever had ♪
1535
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,599
- He brought me another song
to work on.
1536
01:12:18,599 --> 01:12:20,640
And I said to him,
"I would love to do this,
1537
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,932
"but I just...I can't, David.
1538
01:12:22,932 --> 01:12:25,974
I'm recording an album
with my own band."
1539
01:12:30,724 --> 01:12:32,348
And then, I said to him,
1540
01:12:32,348 --> 01:12:33,974
"I think you should do a
record
1541
01:12:33,974 --> 01:12:36,016
with Donny's group."
1542
01:12:36,016 --> 01:12:37,515
He said,
"Really, you think so?
1543
01:12:37,515 --> 01:12:39,515
You think they'd want
to do that?"
1544
01:12:39,515 --> 01:12:41,765
and I said, "You kidding me?"
1545
01:12:41,765 --> 01:12:44,515
and I said, "I think
it would be amazing."
1546
01:12:46,765 --> 01:12:48,849
- I got an email from him
and...
1547
01:12:48,849 --> 01:12:50,515
basically saying that
1548
01:12:50,515 --> 01:12:53,807
he would really like to record
different tunes with us.
1549
01:12:53,807 --> 01:12:55,348
There was a sentence
that he said...
1550
01:12:55,348 --> 01:12:56,849
something like, you know,
1551
01:12:56,849 --> 01:12:58,515
"It would be my dream
1552
01:12:58,515 --> 01:13:00,348
"to record a few songs
1553
01:13:00,348 --> 01:13:01,849
with the Donny McCaslin group."
1554
01:13:01,849 --> 01:13:04,682
I think that that sentence
1555
01:13:04,682 --> 01:13:08,182
was kind of, like, wow.
1556
01:13:16,141 --> 01:13:18,432
Whatever he was going through,
health-wise, at the time,
1557
01:13:18,432 --> 01:13:20,932
one thing that was
really inspiring
1558
01:13:20,932 --> 01:13:24,390
was how, from the first day,
1559
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:26,265
the first note, he was just
1560
01:13:26,265 --> 01:13:28,307
totally in it.
1561
01:13:28,307 --> 01:13:29,932
- By the time I joined
you guys,
1562
01:13:29,932 --> 01:13:31,182
I was not aware of anything,
1563
01:13:31,182 --> 01:13:32,432
and I was actually...
1564
01:13:32,432 --> 01:13:34,515
even being ignorant
of all this,
1565
01:13:34,515 --> 01:13:37,265
I was struck
by how healthy and energetic
1566
01:13:37,265 --> 01:13:38,891
and in great spirits he was.
1567
01:13:45,974 --> 01:13:48,390
- So David had a lot of
vocal ideas
1568
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:49,891
that needed to be done.
1569
01:13:49,891 --> 01:13:52,099
We have him singing this.
1570
01:13:52,099 --> 01:13:55,765
- ♪ In the villa of Ormen ♪
1571
01:13:55,765 --> 01:13:59,432
♪ In the villa of Ormen ♪
1572
01:13:59,432 --> 01:14:02,057
♪ Stands a solitary candle ♪
1573
01:14:02,057 --> 01:14:06,016
♪ Ah, ah ♪
1574
01:14:06,016 --> 01:14:09,515
♪ Ah, ah ♪
1575
01:14:09,515 --> 01:14:13,141
♪ In the center of it all ♪
1576
01:14:13,141 --> 01:14:18,099
♪ In the center of it all ♪
1577
01:14:18,099 --> 01:14:22,223
♪ Your eyes ♪
1578
01:14:22,223 --> 01:14:24,057
- Now, the reason
it sounds so good
1579
01:14:24,057 --> 01:14:26,182
is that's just one David Bowie
singing,
1580
01:14:26,182 --> 01:14:30,724
but with his voice put up
a fifth interval.
1581
01:14:30,724 --> 01:14:33,390
- ♪ On the day of execution ♪
1582
01:14:34,724 --> 01:14:37,223
♪ On the day of execution ♪
1583
01:14:38,432 --> 01:14:41,099
♪ Only women kneel and smile ♪
1584
01:14:41,099 --> 01:14:45,099
♪ Ah, ah ♪
1585
01:14:45,099 --> 01:14:48,223
♪ Ah, ah ♪
1586
01:14:48,223 --> 01:14:52,557
♪ At the center of it all ♪
1587
01:14:52,557 --> 01:14:56,307
♪ At the center of it all ♪
1588
01:14:56,307 --> 01:15:00,265
♪ Your eyes ♪
1589
01:15:04,682 --> 01:15:06,974
♪ Your eyes ♪
1590
01:15:06,974 --> 01:15:09,599
- He asked me if
I would be interested
1591
01:15:09,599 --> 01:15:12,099
in perhaps putting
some images to this song,
1592
01:15:12,099 --> 01:15:14,682
and then began, you know,
a couple of months of
1593
01:15:14,682 --> 01:15:17,016
a very interesting
collaborative process.
1594
01:15:17,016 --> 01:15:20,640
He would send me drawings
1595
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,390
that he would literally say,
1596
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:24,390
"Do what you want
with these drawings,"
1597
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:26,099
you know?
1598
01:15:26,099 --> 01:15:28,682
He would have this character
that he drew
1599
01:15:28,682 --> 01:15:31,016
with the man
with sort of gauze,
1600
01:15:31,016 --> 01:15:32,765
you know, across his face,
1601
01:15:32,765 --> 01:15:35,473
with two buttons for eyes,
1602
01:15:35,473 --> 01:15:37,765
and we named him "Button-Eyes."
1603
01:15:41,891 --> 01:15:45,599
And he also sent me an image
of a spaceman
1604
01:15:45,599 --> 01:15:47,515
with a skeleton inside.
1605
01:15:47,515 --> 01:15:53,473
- ♪ Ah-ah-ah ♪
1606
01:15:53,473 --> 01:15:56,891
- To me, it was 100%
Major Tom, you know?
1607
01:15:56,891 --> 01:15:58,849
A character that he had,
you know,
1608
01:15:58,849 --> 01:16:02,307
revisited and used
over his career.
1609
01:16:02,307 --> 01:16:03,891
- Major Tom, for him,
1610
01:16:03,891 --> 01:16:06,515
was like some sort of talisman
or something.
1611
01:16:06,515 --> 01:16:08,724
He was really along
for the ride with David,
1612
01:16:08,724 --> 01:16:11,016
and the idea of space,
1613
01:16:11,016 --> 01:16:13,016
I think, represented...
1614
01:16:13,016 --> 01:16:15,265
maybe it represented freedom.
1615
01:16:18,182 --> 01:16:20,891
- Major Tom
still means a lot to me.
1616
01:16:20,891 --> 01:16:22,974
It was the first time
I'd been able
1617
01:16:22,974 --> 01:16:24,265
to create a character
1618
01:16:24,265 --> 01:16:26,223
that, uh, was very credible,
1619
01:16:26,223 --> 01:16:28,891
and I think for any writer,
that's a high point.
1620
01:16:28,891 --> 01:16:30,599
He preceded all the others,
1621
01:16:30,599 --> 01:16:32,557
and I suppose one has
his special place for him.
1622
01:16:32,557 --> 01:16:33,849
I do.
1623
01:16:33,849 --> 01:16:37,141
♪ Ground control
to Major Tom ♪
1624
01:16:41,265 --> 01:16:44,765
♪ Ground control
to Major Tom ♪
1625
01:16:48,182 --> 01:16:51,265
♪ Take your protein pills ♪
1626
01:16:51,265 --> 01:16:55,974
♪ And put your helmet on ♪
1627
01:16:55,974 --> 01:16:57,307
- What is it with spaceships?
1628
01:16:57,307 --> 01:16:58,765
- Well, it's...it's
1629
01:16:58,765 --> 01:16:59,932
an interior dialogue
1630
01:16:59,932 --> 01:17:01,765
that you manifest physically.
1631
01:17:04,599 --> 01:17:08,016
It's my little inner space,
isn't it?
1632
01:17:08,016 --> 01:17:09,515
Writ large.
1633
01:17:09,515 --> 01:17:11,557
I wouldn't dream of
getting on a spaceship.
1634
01:17:11,557 --> 01:17:13,182
It would scare the shit
out of me.
1635
01:17:14,974 --> 01:17:17,640
I have absolutely no interest
or ambition
1636
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,348
to go into space whatsoever.
1637
01:17:19,348 --> 01:17:21,891
I'm scared, going down
the end of the garden.
1638
01:17:23,265 --> 01:17:28,265
♪ Though I'm past
100,000 miles ♪
1639
01:17:28,265 --> 01:17:32,932
♪ I'm feeling very still ♪
1640
01:17:32,932 --> 01:17:36,682
♪ And I think
my spaceship knows ♪
1641
01:17:36,682 --> 01:17:39,141
♪ Which way to go ♪
1642
01:17:40,557 --> 01:17:44,640
♪ Tell my wife I love her
very much ♪
1643
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,640
♪ She knows ♪
1644
01:17:48,724 --> 01:17:51,807
♪ Ground control
to Major Tom ♪
1645
01:17:51,807 --> 01:17:53,932
♪ Your circuit's dead ♪
1646
01:17:53,932 --> 01:17:55,807
♪ There's something wrong ♪
1647
01:17:55,807 --> 01:17:58,141
♪ Can you hear me,
Major Tom? ♪
1648
01:17:58,141 --> 01:18:02,515
♪ Can you hear me,
Major Tom? ♪
1649
01:18:02,515 --> 01:18:06,390
♪ Can you hear me,
Major Tom? ♪
1650
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:09,057
- Major Tom was
a really great device
1651
01:18:09,057 --> 01:18:11,640
to keep returning to.
1652
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,099
Maybe there was some little,
1653
01:18:13,099 --> 01:18:14,682
you know, obviously a bit of,
maybe,
1654
01:18:14,682 --> 01:18:16,307
sentimental attachment
to it,
1655
01:18:16,307 --> 01:18:18,016
because it represented a lot
1656
01:18:18,016 --> 01:18:20,182
in terms of
how he became known to us
1657
01:18:20,182 --> 01:18:21,807
and became famous.
1658
01:18:21,807 --> 01:18:25,348
- ♪ The shrieking
of nothing is killing ♪
1659
01:18:25,348 --> 01:18:29,432
♪ Just pictures of Jap girls
in synthesis ♪
1660
01:18:29,432 --> 01:18:31,765
♪ And I ain't got no money ♪
1661
01:18:31,765 --> 01:18:34,599
♪ And I ain't got no hair ♪
1662
01:18:35,682 --> 01:18:38,016
Something please the air.
1663
01:18:38,016 --> 01:18:40,348
- ♪ But I'm hoping to kick ♪
1664
01:18:40,348 --> 01:18:46,016
♪ But the planet is glowing ♪
1665
01:18:46,016 --> 01:18:50,473
♪ Ashes to ashes
and funk to funky ♪
1666
01:18:50,473 --> 01:18:54,599
♪ We know Major Tom's
a junkie ♪
1667
01:18:54,599 --> 01:18:57,891
♪ Strung out in heaven's high ♪
1668
01:18:57,891 --> 01:19:01,724
♪ Hitting an all-time low ♪
1669
01:19:03,891 --> 01:19:06,974
- He just would take
these bits of the past
1670
01:19:06,974 --> 01:19:09,557
and fashion the future
out of them,
1671
01:19:09,557 --> 01:19:13,057
and Major Tom
was a big part of that.
1672
01:19:14,891 --> 01:19:16,182
And he's been looking for home
1673
01:19:16,182 --> 01:19:17,390
for, you know, how long?
1674
01:19:17,390 --> 01:19:18,932
50 years or something.
1675
01:19:18,932 --> 01:19:20,141
You know, a long time,
1676
01:19:20,141 --> 01:19:21,974
Major Tom's been trying to
1677
01:19:21,974 --> 01:19:25,057
find peace and rest,
and he found it in "Blackstar."
1678
01:19:25,057 --> 01:19:27,891
Major Tom is home, finally.
1679
01:19:32,599 --> 01:19:35,141
- "Blackstar," you know...
it's really wildly open
1680
01:19:35,141 --> 01:19:36,640
to interpretation.
1681
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,724
And, uh, I think
he enjoyed this very much,
1682
01:19:38,724 --> 01:19:40,182
like any artist.
1683
01:19:40,182 --> 01:19:42,390
Any great artist
wants you to stand back
1684
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:44,265
and look at the work
1685
01:19:44,265 --> 01:19:45,599
and analyze it,
1686
01:19:45,599 --> 01:19:47,891
and...and feel things from it,
1687
01:19:47,891 --> 01:19:50,849
and you might not
feel the same things.
1688
01:19:50,849 --> 01:19:52,265
The idea of art
1689
01:19:52,265 --> 01:19:54,932
is to stimulate
your own imagination.
1690
01:19:56,182 --> 01:20:00,599
- ♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh ♪
1691
01:20:00,599 --> 01:20:02,265
- You know, after a week
or two
1692
01:20:02,265 --> 01:20:04,599
of us, uh, having these chats
1693
01:20:04,599 --> 01:20:08,223
about Button-Eyes
and the spaceman,
1694
01:20:08,223 --> 01:20:09,932
I get a text message from him,
said, uh,
1695
01:20:09,932 --> 01:20:11,932
" I need to Skype
with you. Can you Skype?"
1696
01:20:11,932 --> 01:20:13,849
And he's saying, "There's
something I have to tell you,"
1697
01:20:13,849 --> 01:20:16,141
um, and I said, "Sure."
1698
01:20:16,141 --> 01:20:17,724
And then he says,
1699
01:20:17,724 --> 01:20:19,515
"I have to tell you that
I'm very ill
1700
01:20:19,515 --> 01:20:21,099
and that I'm probably
gonna die."
1701
01:20:21,099 --> 01:20:22,974
You know?
You know,
1702
01:20:22,974 --> 01:20:24,473
utterly out of the blue.
1703
01:20:24,473 --> 01:20:25,724
You know, just like that.
1704
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:34,265
- Let this be
only coming from me,
1705
01:20:34,265 --> 01:20:36,891
but I think
part of the way I reacted
1706
01:20:36,891 --> 01:20:38,640
also was I felt
1707
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,515
that when he was saying that,
1708
01:20:40,515 --> 01:20:42,390
I thought for a brief second
1709
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:44,307
that he looked scared,
actually.
1710
01:20:47,307 --> 01:20:49,807
And then, a second later,
he would joke about it.
1711
01:20:49,807 --> 01:20:52,807
You know.
1712
01:20:52,807 --> 01:20:54,515
Over the next
six or eight months,
1713
01:20:54,515 --> 01:20:57,182
the disease or illness
was never mentioned,
1714
01:20:57,182 --> 01:21:00,307
and he was in no way,
in my mind,
1715
01:21:00,307 --> 01:21:02,765
you know, affected
by his illness.
1716
01:21:02,765 --> 01:21:07,348
- ♪ Something happened
on the day he died ♪
1717
01:21:07,348 --> 01:21:12,724
♪ Spirit rose a meter
and stepped aside ♪
1718
01:21:12,724 --> 01:21:15,891
♪ Somebody else
took his place ♪
1719
01:21:15,891 --> 01:21:17,682
♪ And bravely cried ♪
1720
01:21:17,682 --> 01:21:20,515
♪ I'm a Blackstar ♪
1721
01:21:20,515 --> 01:21:23,932
♪ I'm a Blackstar ♪
1722
01:21:23,932 --> 01:21:26,223
- This is, uh, a tradition
1723
01:21:26,223 --> 01:21:27,515
that David and I always had.
1724
01:21:27,515 --> 01:21:29,724
Like, how can we mangle
the voice?
1725
01:21:29,724 --> 01:21:32,265
Eh, you know,
how can we change it
1726
01:21:32,265 --> 01:21:35,348
and make one person
sound like many people
1727
01:21:35,348 --> 01:21:37,390
and in many different contexts
1728
01:21:37,390 --> 01:21:39,307
and in many different
spatial areas?
1729
01:21:39,307 --> 01:21:41,974
- ♪ I'm a Blackstar ♪
1730
01:21:41,974 --> 01:21:43,515
♪ Way up, oh, honey ♪
1731
01:21:43,515 --> 01:21:44,849
♪ I've got game ♪
1732
01:21:44,849 --> 01:21:46,891
♪ I see right so white ♪
1733
01:21:46,891 --> 01:21:49,557
♪ So open-hearted pain ♪
1734
01:21:49,557 --> 01:21:52,223
♪ I want eagles
in my daydreams ♪
1735
01:21:52,223 --> 01:21:54,390
♪ Diamonds in my eyes ♪
1736
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:56,390
♪ I'm a Blackstar ♪
1737
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:59,182
♪ I'm a Blackstar ♪
1738
01:21:59,182 --> 01:22:03,016
- David is like some, like,
bizarre skeletal choir
1739
01:22:03,016 --> 01:22:05,390
doing "I'm a Blackstar,
I'm a Blackstar."
1740
01:22:05,390 --> 01:22:07,265
It's this weird thing. It's...
1741
01:22:07,265 --> 01:22:09,640
It makes this whole
section very supernatural.
1742
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,682
- ♪ Somebody else
took his place ♪
1743
01:22:12,682 --> 01:22:14,515
♪ And bravely cried ♪
1744
01:22:14,515 --> 01:22:16,932
♪ I'm a Blackstar ♪
1745
01:22:16,932 --> 01:22:19,348
♪ I'm a starstar ♪
1746
01:22:19,348 --> 01:22:22,099
♪ I'm a Blackstar ♪
1747
01:22:22,099 --> 01:22:23,765
♪ I'm a Blackstar ♪
1748
01:22:23,765 --> 01:22:26,265
- I imagine it must have
been cathartic for him.
1749
01:22:26,265 --> 01:22:31,265
He was working tirelessly,
both on "Blackstar"
1750
01:22:31,265 --> 01:22:32,807
and on "Lazarus"
1751
01:22:32,807 --> 01:22:34,557
at the same time.
1752
01:22:34,557 --> 01:22:39,265
Um, perhaps the catharsis
1753
01:22:39,265 --> 01:22:41,099
surrounding "Lazarus"
was unique
1754
01:22:41,099 --> 01:22:43,724
in as much as its execution
1755
01:22:43,724 --> 01:22:47,141
required him
to relinquish control
1756
01:22:47,141 --> 01:22:48,765
and allow so many other people
1757
01:22:48,765 --> 01:22:52,557
to take it and make it happen.
1758
01:22:52,557 --> 01:22:55,182
- Countryside disappears
beneath our feet.
1759
01:22:55,182 --> 01:22:56,849
- You know, I mean,
I must say, you know,
1760
01:22:56,849 --> 01:22:58,348
there were times
when David and me
1761
01:22:58,348 --> 01:22:59,932
would be reading scenes
together.
1762
01:22:59,932 --> 01:23:02,473
You could feel him more
in there.
1763
01:23:04,974 --> 01:23:06,599
- This isn't happening.
1764
01:23:06,599 --> 01:23:08,515
I'm still inside my head.
1765
01:23:08,515 --> 01:23:10,473
- You know, you forget...
you forget that
1766
01:23:10,473 --> 01:23:11,849
actually, he's...he's...
1767
01:23:11,849 --> 01:23:13,932
of course, we forgot
that he was dying.
1768
01:23:13,932 --> 01:23:16,141
- I'm done with this life!
1769
01:23:16,141 --> 01:23:18,141
- The cast, of course,
never knew.
1770
01:23:18,141 --> 01:23:20,099
Only me, uh, Ivo, and
Robert.
1771
01:23:20,099 --> 01:23:22,141
- And so a new universe.
1772
01:23:22,141 --> 01:23:25,265
I'll dream big up there.
1773
01:23:27,141 --> 01:23:31,307
And although always
stuck inside my breaking mind,
1774
01:23:32,974 --> 01:23:35,932
I've stepped off the Earth
and into a better place.
1775
01:23:35,932 --> 01:23:39,599
- David didn't want "Heroes"
in "Lazarus,"
1776
01:23:39,599 --> 01:23:41,932
because "Heroes" had become
1777
01:23:41,932 --> 01:23:43,807
like an anthem.
1778
01:23:43,807 --> 01:23:45,473
He wanted a song
1779
01:23:45,473 --> 01:23:47,016
that would have
sent everyone out,
1780
01:23:47,016 --> 01:23:48,265
slitting their wrists.
1781
01:23:50,599 --> 01:23:52,515
Ivo and Enda
1782
01:23:52,515 --> 01:23:55,390
persuaded him
that if "Heroes"
1783
01:23:55,390 --> 01:23:57,599
was treated, musically,
1784
01:23:57,599 --> 01:23:59,557
in a different way,
1785
01:23:59,557 --> 01:24:01,057
it would work
1786
01:24:01,057 --> 01:24:03,599
for the ending of "Lazarus."
1787
01:24:07,265 --> 01:24:11,057
- ♪ I ♪
1788
01:24:11,057 --> 01:24:12,932
♪ I will be king ♪
1789
01:24:12,932 --> 01:24:17,057
♪ ♪
1790
01:24:17,057 --> 01:24:20,640
♪ And you ♪
1791
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,016
♪ You will be queen ♪
1792
01:24:24,016 --> 01:24:26,724
- It's a reflective...
it's a beautiful moment.
1793
01:24:26,724 --> 01:24:29,974
"Heroes" is melancholy
instead of triumphant.
1794
01:24:29,974 --> 01:24:32,640
♪ ♪
1795
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,932
- Through his relationship
with this girl,
1796
01:24:34,932 --> 01:24:37,307
and her re-awakening him
1797
01:24:37,307 --> 01:24:39,390
to his vitality,
1798
01:24:39,390 --> 01:24:42,390
Newton is brought back
to life,
1799
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:46,307
that he may ready himself
to die,
1800
01:24:46,307 --> 01:24:48,057
perhaps.
1801
01:24:48,057 --> 01:24:49,891
Or not.
1802
01:24:49,891 --> 01:24:54,891
♪ But we could be safer ♪
1803
01:24:54,891 --> 01:24:59,182
♪ Just for one day ♪
1804
01:24:59,182 --> 01:25:01,724
- In this catharsis moment
at the end with the "Heroes,"
1805
01:25:01,724 --> 01:25:04,432
you know, when things
clear up,
1806
01:25:04,432 --> 01:25:06,141
he cuts loose everything which
1807
01:25:06,141 --> 01:25:08,640
what in a normal life
of a normal human being
1808
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:09,765
is important.
1809
01:25:09,765 --> 01:25:11,307
♪ We can be heroes ♪
1810
01:25:11,307 --> 01:25:12,640
- And then he has to let go
1811
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,515
every hope,
1812
01:25:14,515 --> 01:25:17,099
just accepting,
1813
01:25:17,099 --> 01:25:19,765
well, his own death,
at the end.
1814
01:25:19,765 --> 01:25:23,932
♪ We can be heroes ♪
1815
01:25:29,223 --> 01:25:32,599
♪ We can be heroes ♪
1816
01:25:32,599 --> 01:25:34,182
- So the last thing
that you see is
1817
01:25:34,182 --> 01:25:37,307
Michael C. Hall
is still on stage, alive,
1818
01:25:37,307 --> 01:25:39,891
but in his mind, he's
1819
01:25:39,891 --> 01:25:42,640
flying away into the stars.
1820
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,891
That's the last image.
1821
01:25:44,891 --> 01:25:49,557
- ♪ Just for one day ♪
1822
01:26:05,182 --> 01:26:06,932
- I didn't expect
David to be there
1823
01:26:06,932 --> 01:26:08,473
at our opening night.
1824
01:26:08,473 --> 01:26:10,141
We had heard that
he was getting weak,
1825
01:26:10,141 --> 01:26:13,640
but he so wanted to be there,
and, uh,
1826
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,265
and he turned up,
and he watched it,
1827
01:26:15,265 --> 01:26:16,849
and then afterwards,
and he took the bows with us.
1828
01:26:16,849 --> 01:26:19,765
It was very, very sweet.
1829
01:26:19,765 --> 01:26:21,223
- You know, he got through
the night,
1830
01:26:21,223 --> 01:26:23,557
but I really am convinced that
1831
01:26:23,557 --> 01:26:25,807
he was fighting death
1832
01:26:25,807 --> 01:26:29,515
and he wanted to continue
and to continue
1833
01:26:29,515 --> 01:26:31,974
and then afterwards,
we were sitting a little bit,
1834
01:26:31,974 --> 01:26:33,807
talking behind stage,
1835
01:26:33,807 --> 01:26:36,348
and he said, "Let's start
the second one now,
1836
01:26:36,348 --> 01:26:37,765
the sequel"...
1837
01:26:37,765 --> 01:26:39,016
"To 'Lazarus.'"
1838
01:26:40,849 --> 01:26:43,765
- The last thing I remember
David saying to me
1839
01:26:43,765 --> 01:26:46,432
after, you know, the hugs
and the smiles
1840
01:26:46,432 --> 01:26:48,307
and after, uh,
1841
01:26:48,307 --> 01:26:49,849
after that opening night
performance,
1842
01:26:49,849 --> 01:26:52,849
was "I think it went well
tonight, don't you?"
1843
01:26:52,849 --> 01:26:54,265
That's the last thing
1844
01:26:54,265 --> 01:26:56,141
I remember him saying,
and I said, "Yeah,
1845
01:26:56,141 --> 01:26:57,348
I think it did."
1846
01:27:03,891 --> 01:27:06,348
- After the musical opened,
1847
01:27:06,348 --> 01:27:07,849
I got a call saying
1848
01:27:07,849 --> 01:27:10,057
"David would love to see you,"
1849
01:27:10,057 --> 01:27:12,557
and so I went over
to see him,
1850
01:27:12,557 --> 01:27:14,557
and he was in his bedroom,
1851
01:27:14,557 --> 01:27:16,557
and we chatted.
1852
01:27:16,557 --> 01:27:19,265
It was all very lovely.
1853
01:27:19,265 --> 01:27:20,891
Peaceful.
1854
01:27:20,891 --> 01:27:25,557
And so then we
walked to the elevator
1855
01:27:25,557 --> 01:27:29,348
and he said, "You're a genius,"
1856
01:27:29,348 --> 01:27:31,765
to me, and I said, "No, no, no.
1857
01:27:31,765 --> 01:27:33,390
"I'm not a genius.
1858
01:27:33,390 --> 01:27:34,891
"I'm just the producer.
1859
01:27:34,891 --> 01:27:37,265
You're the fucking genius."
1860
01:27:37,265 --> 01:27:39,473
And, um,
1861
01:27:39,473 --> 01:27:41,057
we had a hug,
1862
01:27:41,057 --> 01:27:42,515
I got in the elevator.
1863
01:27:42,515 --> 01:27:43,682
That was it.
1864
01:27:43,682 --> 01:27:45,265
Last time I saw him.
1865
01:28:10,223 --> 01:28:12,265
- David said,
"I just want to make
1866
01:28:12,265 --> 01:28:14,265
a simple performance video,"
1867
01:28:14,265 --> 01:28:17,390
I immediately said,
1868
01:28:17,390 --> 01:28:19,849
"The song is called 'Lazarus.'
You should be in a bed."
1869
01:28:21,932 --> 01:28:23,432
To me, that had to do with
1870
01:28:23,432 --> 01:28:25,265
the Biblical aspect of it,
you know?
1871
01:28:25,265 --> 01:28:27,348
The man who would rise again.
1872
01:28:27,348 --> 01:28:30,141
And it had nothing to do
with him being ill.
1873
01:28:30,141 --> 01:28:33,223
That was only because
I liked the imagery of it.
1874
01:28:33,223 --> 01:28:34,807
You know.
1875
01:28:35,849 --> 01:28:37,307
I found out later
1876
01:28:37,307 --> 01:28:39,473
that the week
we were shooting
1877
01:28:39,473 --> 01:28:40,807
is when he found out
1878
01:28:40,807 --> 01:28:42,974
that this is...it's over,
you know?
1879
01:28:42,974 --> 01:28:44,432
We'll end treatments,
or, you know,
1880
01:28:44,432 --> 01:28:47,932
in whatever capacity
that means that...
1881
01:28:47,932 --> 01:28:49,390
that his illness has won.
1882
01:28:52,141 --> 01:28:54,390
- ♪ Look up here ♪
1883
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:56,307
♪ I'm in heaven ♪
1884
01:29:00,057 --> 01:29:02,265
♪ I've got scars ♪
1885
01:29:02,265 --> 01:29:04,432
♪ That can't be seen ♪
1886
01:29:07,473 --> 01:29:09,599
♪ I've got drama ♪
1887
01:29:09,599 --> 01:29:11,640
♪ Can't be stolen ♪
1888
01:29:15,182 --> 01:29:17,390
♪ Everybody ♪
1889
01:29:17,390 --> 01:29:19,182
♪ Knows me now ♪
1890
01:29:22,348 --> 01:29:24,348
- I've watched him record,
1891
01:29:24,348 --> 01:29:26,016
and he's in that song,
1892
01:29:26,016 --> 01:29:27,557
in that feeling,
in that moment.
1893
01:29:27,557 --> 01:29:29,182
He would stand in front
of the mic,
1894
01:29:29,182 --> 01:29:31,724
and for the four or five
minutes he was singing,
1895
01:29:31,724 --> 01:29:34,682
he would pour his heart out.
1896
01:29:34,682 --> 01:29:36,515
The audio picked up
his breathing
1897
01:29:36,515 --> 01:29:38,432
between those lines.
1898
01:29:38,432 --> 01:29:40,849
- ♪ Look up here, man ♪
1899
01:29:40,849 --> 01:29:42,765
♪ I'm in danger ♪
1900
01:29:46,348 --> 01:29:50,182
♪ I've got nothing left
to lose ♪
1901
01:29:53,099 --> 01:29:58,182
♪ I'm so high,
it makes my brain whirl ♪
1902
01:30:01,390 --> 01:30:06,515
♪ Dropped my cell phone
down below ♪
1903
01:30:09,016 --> 01:30:10,640
- It wasn't that
he was out of breath.
1904
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,099
He was, like, hyperventilating
in a way.
1905
01:30:13,099 --> 01:30:16,265
Like, getting...
getting his energy up
1906
01:30:16,265 --> 01:30:18,557
to sing this,
to deliver this song.
1907
01:30:18,557 --> 01:30:20,682
- ♪ I'll be free ♪
1908
01:30:20,682 --> 01:30:22,557
- He was quite stoked.
1909
01:30:22,557 --> 01:30:24,432
Like I...like I like to say,
in the zone,
1910
01:30:24,432 --> 01:30:26,599
and I could see him
through the window
1911
01:30:26,599 --> 01:30:29,265
that he was, you know,
really feeling it
1912
01:30:33,515 --> 01:30:37,223
- ♪ Oh, I'll be free ♪
1913
01:30:41,182 --> 01:30:46,765
♪ Ain't that just like me? ♪
1914
01:30:49,265 --> 01:30:51,557
- A man on top of his game.
1915
01:30:51,557 --> 01:30:53,348
It's brilliant,
absolutely brilliant,
1916
01:30:53,348 --> 01:30:55,432
and the saddest lyrics
to hear...
1917
01:30:55,432 --> 01:30:56,891
hear them now.
1918
01:31:18,974 --> 01:31:21,307
It's nine minutes past 7:00.
1919
01:31:21,307 --> 01:31:23,557
Well, the shock news
has only just been
1920
01:31:23,557 --> 01:31:25,307
officially confirmed.
1921
01:31:25,307 --> 01:31:26,974
David Bowie is dead.
1922
01:31:26,974 --> 01:31:29,265
- David Bowie,
rock and roll rebel,
1923
01:31:29,265 --> 01:31:31,141
actor, and cultural icon,
1924
01:31:31,141 --> 01:31:32,974
has died at age 69.
1925
01:31:32,974 --> 01:31:37,640
- We lost David Bowie, uh,
this morning...
1926
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,932
um, and it's a big deal.
1927
01:31:41,141 --> 01:31:42,557
- ...have the news crews
1928
01:31:42,557 --> 01:31:44,557
and fans from all around
the world
1929
01:31:44,557 --> 01:31:46,390
leaving full tribute...
- ...In downtown Manhattan,
1930
01:31:46,390 --> 01:31:48,265
and you can see behind me...
- He is David Bowie.
1931
01:31:48,265 --> 01:31:50,057
- ...Like his life,
has shocked
1932
01:31:50,057 --> 01:31:52,141
fans laying flowers
from his...
1933
01:31:52,141 --> 01:31:54,223
- Even the
Archbishop of Canterbury
1934
01:31:54,223 --> 01:31:56,432
was a fan.
1935
01:31:56,432 --> 01:31:57,807
- ♪ Heaven loves ya ♪
1936
01:31:59,932 --> 01:32:03,473
♪ The clouds part for ya ♪
1937
01:32:03,473 --> 01:32:06,348
♪ Nothing stands in your way ♪
1938
01:32:06,348 --> 01:32:08,182
♪ When you're a boy ♪
1939
01:32:13,057 --> 01:32:15,765
♪ Clothes always fit ya ♪
1940
01:32:15,765 --> 01:32:18,682
♪ Life is a pop
of the cherry ♪
1941
01:32:18,682 --> 01:32:20,807
♪ When you're a boy ♪
1942
01:32:20,807 --> 01:32:23,432
It's been a incredibly
full life,
1943
01:32:23,432 --> 01:32:26,099
and, uh, apart from the drugs
in the '70s,
1944
01:32:26,099 --> 01:32:27,849
I think little of it
has been wasted
1945
01:32:27,849 --> 01:32:29,515
in terms of I've been able to
1946
01:32:29,515 --> 01:32:31,765
sort of harness
every moment in a way.
1947
01:32:31,765 --> 01:32:34,016
I'm...I'm a really lucky chap.
1948
01:32:34,016 --> 01:32:35,557
♪ Favorite things ♪
1949
01:32:35,557 --> 01:32:38,432
- And legacy. What...
how would you like
1950
01:32:38,432 --> 01:32:40,307
your legacy written?
1951
01:32:40,307 --> 01:32:41,724
- I'd love people to believe
1952
01:32:41,724 --> 01:32:43,557
that I really had
great haircuts.
1953
01:32:44,557 --> 01:32:45,724
♪ Boys ♪
1954
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:50,265
♪ Boys keep swinging ♪
1955
01:32:50,265 --> 01:32:53,348
♪ Boys always work it out ♪
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