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The
Justice Department has
charged Microsoft with
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engaging in anti-competitive...
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The government's
now going after Microsoft
with both barrels.
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Designed to
maintain its monopoly...
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Cool.
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In personal
computer operating systems.
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When you come across
a snake, you kill it.
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You don't go back and
play with a dead snake.
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We reached an
agreement to sell the
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Netscape Communications
Corporation to AOL.
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This guy who has been
calling himself Michael Fenne
is really David Kim Stanley,
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a fugitive of the law.
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What about the
technology that I created?
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Yeah, well,
I'm trying to deal with this
bankruptcy stuff so that you
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and Chuck don't get arrested.
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What?
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Hey, what did
y'all think of iBash?
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Whooo!
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You spent twelve
million dollars of my money
on something that didn't work.
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Huh.
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Michael Egan
told us, "I wanna do
business with you guys."
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We bought 51%
for 20 million.
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Which at
the time was the single
biggest investment
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in Internet history
by an individual.
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Got the girl.
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Got the money.
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Now I'm ready to live a
disgusting frivolous life.
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That piece
was very damaging.
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Dude, you know
they took it out of context!
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You created the context!
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We are running a
billion- dollar company.
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And you played right
into the narrative that
maybe we shouldn't be.
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Because it
burned inside me.
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Because.
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Be-be-be-because.
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Be-be.
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Because.
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It burned.
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Because it burned inside me.
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IPO gate
is far from a sure case.
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-Well, it's the Internet.
It's life in the fast line.
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-Cash is cash.
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-Anyone can create enough
wealth in a couple of years
to become a billionaire.
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-Fun becomes popular.
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-Of the 175 Internet
companies that went public
this year almost one-third
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are trading below their
initial offering price.
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Because it
burned inside me.
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America Online says
combining the Web audience
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of AOL and Netscape
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will let consumers and
businesses do more on the Web.
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The combination creates
a force to be reckoned
with for anyone
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targeting consumers
on the Internet.
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Yes, I went
to work at AOL.
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Is that so difficult
to understand?
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Sorry, I'm not angry at you.
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Fine, let me break it
down: I created something
you all now use every day,
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that speeds
communication, commerce,
education, even love.
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And that thing was
given to all of you.
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You're welcome.
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Did I make a tidy sum?
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Yes, I did.
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Did I leverage
my wealth and position
toward the greater good?
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I did the thing I did.
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And I retreated
from a creative role
to something else.
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I'm a human being, with
an expiration date.
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And I'm living the
rest of my life.
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And I'm definitely
done talking about it.
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Hey.
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Hey.
I'm really sorry.
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No, man.
It's all good.
You were right.
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No, let's go
in the conference room.
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I feel really bad.
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You drive this company.
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You and your vision,
made this all happen.
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Todd, that's not true.
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You made a mistake.
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One that got amplified
by the fishbowl we're
living in as the guys
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who started this company.
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There wouldn't be a
company without you.
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There wouldn't be a fishbowl.
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And there wouldn't have been
the craziest IPO in history.
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We did do that.
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We did.
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.
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-Because it burned inside me.
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Why are we
divided into thirds?
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Hello?
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Heeyyy, you up?
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It's a lot, right?
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I know, the entire thing.
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This delicious bacchanal,
this orgy if you
will of money and power,
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I mean, that big ol'
juicy bubble,
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it's starting to stretch tight.
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Yeah, I know, you can feel
it right, yeah, I know,
it is full to bursting,
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the signs are everywhere,
the center will not hold.
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That's Yeats, bitch.
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So, I and all of us
financial sector experts,
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as certified
investment practitioners,
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do the prudent thing,
the wise thing,
the right thing,
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and hew tightly
to our fiduciary
responsibility, right?
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Well, as they say
in the olden days,
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NOT.
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.
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Everybody wanted
what we were building.
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I told them, I said,
you can't have my
social security number.
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You can't know who I
am or where I come from.
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If you want what
we're building at Pixelon,
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you have to
leave my past alone,
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whatever that may be.
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That was the deal.
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This guy that's
been calling himself
Michael Fenne is really...
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Somebody named
David Kim Stanley,
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who is on the
State of Virginia's
Most Wanted List
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for uh, you know,
being a fugitive of the law.
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First of all, I threw
my driver's license away,
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threw very piece of,
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every trace of anything
that might identify
me as David Stanley.
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I threw all that away.
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Um, I dyed my hair blonde,
I put on 200 pounds.
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I did as much as I could
do short of mutilation
to change my appearance.
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The founder
is fictional, which is
kind of appropriate because
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in many ways the
product is fictional too.
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Almost immediately
after iBash, it was pretty
clear that it was a failure.
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The fact that they were unable
to stream the event live on
the Internet confirmed:
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That this was a technology that
wasn't ready for prime time.
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I specifically made
it my objective to let the
chairman of the board know:
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This was not possible and they
kept going forward anyway.
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The actual
broadcast of it live,
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Pixelon didn't
even broadcast it live.
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iBash failed.
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.
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Michael, this is the last
time I'm gonna call you.
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I'm getting on a flight
and we're gonna hash
this out in person.
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And you'd better have some
very compelling answers.
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Just try not
to attract attention.
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They have people everywhere.
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I don't know
how to drive and attract
any less attention.
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If they've put me
"beyond salvage" that means
they might disappear me.
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We just need to keep moving.
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Please, speed up!
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Michael,
you're scaring me.
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Hey, pull over!
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Ah! Ok.
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Ok look, you
should be scared.
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We should all be scared,
the CIA doesn't mess around.
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Why would the CIA?
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Hey, I told you
not to ask me about that.
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It puts you at risk!
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Michael's behavior
by all accounts was
increasingly erratic.
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The hit squad
is probably on the way.
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And this new so-called
"CEO," Paul Ward?
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He's working for the bad guys.
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What are
you, the "hit squad?"
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Are we in danger?
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I thought you liked
Paul and Denise.
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We had them over to the house!
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I thought the whole iBash
thing was such a big success.
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Honey, I need you
to do something for me,
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you go home,
get any of my papers in my
office and put them in a box
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and then put them in the
cubby hole under the garage. Ok?
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Yeah.
Hey, shh.
Get down!
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.
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.
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Ok, sit tight, baby.
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Do not answer
the phone or the door
under any circumstances,
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I'm talking about
your life here.
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This may be the last
time we see each other,
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know that I have
truly loved you,
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even when you let me down.
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Oh, Michael,
please don't say that.
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Please. I don't.
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Michael, Michael!
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AOL
is more powerful in consumer
activity than any company,
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including Microsoft.
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So here's competition at
its finest, with people
slicing up Netscape
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for the real key assets.
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Andreessen
becoming the AOL CTO was
a bit of, you know, wow,
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that's an interesting
one, isn't it?
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There's a lot
of irony around the uh
AOL purpose of Netscape.
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That was just part and parcel.
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Given everything
he had said about the
company, yes, it was odd.
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And I don't really know
even what he did in
that role, if anything.
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:
You've got a visitor.
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Ha-ha.
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I just wrapped up all
my transitional stuff here.
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I just want to stop in and
let you know where we are
with the antitrust case.
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Why?
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.
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Why would you
want to update me?
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Are you, I, because it
has to do with the company,
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Marc, with our positions.
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My position?
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Is that it's over.
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It's far from over, Marc.
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Microsoft was offered the
option of negotiating an
out-of-court settlement.
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They've opted not to take it.
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So it's not over.
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They're not taking
the option to settle.
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No.
Of course they're not.
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Gates will continue to
starve us out until there's
nothing left; no engineers,
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no will toward continuing
to fight for open source.
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It's a victory by
demoralization and attrition.
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"Death by a thousand
paper cuts."
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It's a good
strategy, actually.
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Yes or no.
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Could it be a fool's errand?
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Of course it could.
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Could it just possibly be
an opening to achieving
some sort of victory?
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I think that that
is also possible.
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Are you going
back and playing with
dead snakes, Jim?
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The main thing
is, I started this thing
and I'm gonna finish it.
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I made a promise to
a lot of our folks to
see this thing through.
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See, the thing is, Marc.
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Thank you, Jim.
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.
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Alright.
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The
NASDAQ finally found some
life on Friday but beneath
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the broad numbers was another
day of dot-com meltdown.
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TheGlobe.com,
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one of the original
hit Internet IPOs
is now 50 cents a share.
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Everyone was so
frustrated that the stock
kept dropping despite
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all of our performance,
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that everybody thought there
was just something broken,
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something's not working,
there's a disconnect.
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And that frustration
translated into
everybody saying,
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"Well, we need more
stock because our stock
keeps dropping in value.
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We need more stock."
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A pressure cooker
was building.
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I could feel that
something was gonna give.
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I don't know.
I'm out of ideas.
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I just might go see
the new John Woo movie.
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John Woo? Ugh.
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Seriously?
John Woo is "ugh?"
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Bunch of operatic,
over-the-top slow-motion
diving gun battles.
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Dude. He's a master.
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A true artist.
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John Woo is the man.
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Meh.
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Steph, we are so
screwed, buddy.
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We are?
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I don't see
any way we're not.
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I mean, y'know
Todd, there are things you
could do to be less screwed.
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Why are you
acting so weird?
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Oh, crap.
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Bro!
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Okay.
Now we're screwed.
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Had a good run, boys.
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But it ends here.
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You guys ready?
Ready.
Let's do this.
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We sparked off
Internet IPO mania and we were
also the beginning of the end.
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I think if we
do something radical
that gets some press,
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like re-allocate 30% of.
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Steph!
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What?
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Mike Egan cashed in
50 million in globe.com stock.
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No.
Yes.
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He's the
chairman of our board.
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It's already
being widely reported.
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He didn't
even tell us.
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Mike Egan was my
Gordon Gecko.
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He was the guy who was
like going to make the
bet on the genius
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Bud and Bud's own dad
didn't quite believe in him.
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You know?
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And it's like you finally get
to show off to your own dad.
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You found somebody who
believes in you so mightily
and that will put so much
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money behind you.
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We need to go out
to the Valley.
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Create a new story,
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do some laps,
shake some hands,
raise some cash.
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Let em know that
we're not dead yet.
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Maybe Bob Halperin
will even double down.
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Ok. Ok. But Steph.
Yeah.
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No plastic pants.
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.
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Look at all
these beautiful minds
and bodies at work!
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You are ALL my children!
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I hope we are working at
maximum efficiency here.
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What's the update on
the backend work, Brian?
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Ummm, it
kinda is what it is.
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Ready to ship, I guess.
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"Um, uh, err,
it is what it is."
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Take out the "ums"
and "ahs," friend!
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"Ready to ship, Michael!"
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Ready to ship,
Mr. Fenne.
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Michael!
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Ready to ship, Michael.
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It's odd when you're
at a circumstance like
that because it's kinda
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happening to everybody.
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And a lot of it was um,
just keeping it to yourself.
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You would have opinions
about what was going
on but nobody else seemed to
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be saying anything to
keep it from happening.
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You know, there
are all sorts of stories
about what happened the
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day that Michael was
removed from Pixelon,
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when he was essentially,
you know, fired.
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The day he was
a tumultuous one.
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He's launching into these
long uh, tirades on the
public-address system.
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Good morning, rock stars!
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iBash! What a victory.
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I'm so thankful
to the lord and
our divine technology.
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We are on a role people,
so let's keep it up!
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And when we hit that
IPO we will be in the
land of milk and honey!
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It was the dot-com era.
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Everybody there thought
that they were on the
precipice of great wealth.
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It's odd what that does
to people, that sort of
was the overriding thing.
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Just deal with it.
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Increasingly
the officers and
the investors were saying,
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"Michael's got to go."
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This is The Master speaking.
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THE MASTER!!
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Frank, report to the
woodshed, your uncle is
gonna give you a whoopin'!
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Frank!
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Lee Wiskowski here for...
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Lee Wiskowski here
for Michael Fenne.
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I'll check.
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Is Mr. Fenne in?
There's a Lee Wiskowski.
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I know he's here,
I can see the door is open.
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.
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Hello, security,
this is Michael Fenne.
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Get your asses up here.
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Sha!
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Shah, sha, sheh, she.
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Phew, phew!
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Hi. Hi, I'm Michael Fenne.
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Hey!
Hey, Lee!
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What the hell, Paul?
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I know, I know.
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Things have gotten, weird.
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Paul,
you're the CEO.
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We hired you to keep an
eye on iBash and Fenne.
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If you can't do that, then
why the are you here?
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I can't
believe this is happening.
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And I just gave this
nutbucket 28 million.
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What's happening?
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What's happening
Paul is a fatal error.
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This is enough.
This is enough.
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Fenne has to go.
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00:16:45,134 --> 00:16:49,660
I think in late
'95 Andreessen was talking
about how he was gonna
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put us out of business.
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00:16:52,663 --> 00:16:54,752
Well, we think that
there's a series of activities
that Microsoft's been engaged
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in which may or may not be
legal and we've turned over
that information to the
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Department of Justice
and they'll figure out
what to do from here.
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The idea of having a
government committee basically
have a design review over
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engineering decisions
just made Bill and people
like me gag in our mouths.
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And that is probably why we
dug in our heels even though
we had all these potential
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opportunities just to get
off basically with almost
no penalties whatsoever.
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Looking back on that,
everybody thinks that was
just disastrous thinking,
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we got our egos in the way.
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00:17:24,086 --> 00:17:26,915
I'm not sure what
you're talking about, you'd
have to show me the context.
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But it was born
out of this idea about like
the pride of engineering and
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like Bill's ego really
is an engineer's
kind of ego about,
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don't tell me how
to do my goddamn job.
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00:17:40,102 --> 00:17:42,452
I don't see anything
about that in here.
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00:17:42,496 --> 00:17:44,802
Well, I think
that clearly when they go
into a competitive situation
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they'll use every
weapon at their disposal,
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um, the only um, the
only issue now is that some of
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those, some of those weapons
may or may not be legal
and it's something for the
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government to uh, to decide.
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If I might, Mr. Chairman,
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I would like a show
of hands, how many of
you use Intel-based PCs?
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And of that group,
who use PCs, how many
of you use a PC without
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Microsoft's operating system?
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Gentlemen, that's a monopoly.
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Some people agree with
that, some people wouldn't.
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Judge Jackson
had this case before
him more than 2 years.
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A bunch of the
"Legal Team" felt like
this really deeply principled
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uh thing about getting
the government out of
our industry.
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00:18:38,682 --> 00:18:41,337
Did you actually
read what was in there?
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He found that
Microsoft had repeatedly
abused its monopoly power.
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And why Bill stayed
with the suit you know
come hell or high water.
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It was really born out of this
set of emotions around, hey,
like we built this industry
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out of nothing.
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And violated law by
crushing emerging threats
to Windows dominance.
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To have lawyers
come in out of the hills
and tell us you know we made
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the wrong engineering
decisions or the wrong
design decisions was
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00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:08,973
just like please just
stay out of our industry.
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Just stay out of it, you're
not going to add any value.
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00:19:11,672 --> 00:19:16,938
You're just going to make
a mess of it, um, and
argue you know they did.
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.
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00:19:22,944 --> 00:19:24,206
Michael?
Hey Paul.
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00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:25,990
We need to talk.
Right now.
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00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:28,819
Look Michael, you've
been handing out stock
options like candy,
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00:19:29,907 --> 00:19:33,824
you just blew north of 12
million on a party to announce
our tech where our tech failed,
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00:19:35,043 --> 00:19:37,524
and now quite frankly,
you're acting a little strange.
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00:19:37,567 --> 00:19:40,527
We need some answers
as to what the hell
is going on here.
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00:19:44,531 --> 00:19:49,536
Gentlemen, I think
it would be in all our best
interest if you addressed me
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with a modicum of respect.
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00:19:52,495 --> 00:19:57,631
I am after all the chairman
of this enterprise and I am
guaranteed that position for
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the next seven years
no matter what.
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00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,112
No, Michael.
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00:20:01,156 --> 00:20:03,376
No. We're past all that.
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00:20:03,419 --> 00:20:07,902
I'm ready to gather some
complaints for a class action
lawsuit unless you can provide
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an immediate course
correction here.
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00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,348
Did you
just threaten me?
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00:20:19,392 --> 00:20:23,178
After I took your
less-than-perfect money
and allowed you to be my
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00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:25,311
date to the prom?
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00:20:25,354 --> 00:20:30,054
The one among all the
other suitors, to take this
company to the stratosphere,
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00:20:31,273 --> 00:20:34,145
where it is definitely
heading, God willing
and the lake don't rise,
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00:20:34,407 --> 00:20:36,278
as soon as we set that IPO.
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00:20:36,322 --> 00:20:42,284
I have sweated blood and
risked everything for you.
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00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:44,504
And you.
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00:20:44,547 --> 00:20:45,809
Michael.
Get out.
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00:20:45,853 --> 00:20:47,202
I
still haven't heard.
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00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:49,596
GET OUT!!
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00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:56,646
We need him out.
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00:20:56,690 --> 00:20:57,734
We don't have
enough board members.
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00:20:57,778 --> 00:20:59,083
Find them.
Gather them.
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00:20:59,127 --> 00:21:00,302
Muster their asses.
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00:21:00,346 --> 00:21:01,521
I don't care how hard
it is, do it now.
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00:21:01,564 --> 00:21:03,044
We need him out.
410
00:21:03,087 --> 00:21:04,437
Okay, Steve Curtis
and Joel Shepard are local.
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00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,525
Get 'em down here.
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00:21:05,568 --> 00:21:06,961
Mike Kelly
is in Palo Alto.
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00:21:07,004 --> 00:21:09,572
We need
to do this today.
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00:21:11,792 --> 00:21:14,011
What the hell?
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00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:16,536
C'mon, let's get outta here.
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00:21:16,579 --> 00:21:18,625
Yeah.
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00:21:20,888 --> 00:21:23,369
Remember
Buck's of Woodside?
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00:21:23,412 --> 00:21:26,850
The place where venture
capitalists and tech
superstars shimmy on up the
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00:21:26,894 --> 00:21:29,723
great Silicon Valley
River to spawn?
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00:21:29,766 --> 00:21:31,942
Welcome back.
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00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,119
We need to listen to
every angle on how to make
TheGlobe viable again.
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00:21:35,859 --> 00:21:37,165
We're circling the drain.
423
00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:39,602
We worked really hard
on our agenda this year.
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00:21:39,646 --> 00:21:41,996
Why can't we just execute,
and not cut and run?
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00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:46,653
If that's some veiled
reference to my sell-off,
I've already explained that I
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00:21:46,696 --> 00:21:48,785
needed capital to
stay involved here.
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00:21:50,613 --> 00:21:53,834
I just think bringing
in the guys to pitch a whole
new strategy feels desperate.
428
00:21:55,444 --> 00:21:56,837
Sorry, Jim.
Hey.
429
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,186
I don't have
a lot of time.
430
00:21:58,229 --> 00:21:59,405
I have a 1:15.
431
00:21:59,448 --> 00:22:00,754
How's AOL treating you?
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00:22:00,797 --> 00:22:02,321
I got a ton of
work to get back to.
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00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:03,844
Sure.
You're a busy man.
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00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:05,585
Here you go,
gentlemen.
435
00:22:05,628 --> 00:22:07,195
Thank you.
436
00:22:07,238 --> 00:22:09,937
That's right, this
man ordered a glass of milk.
437
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,940
What a, I, man, what's up?
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00:22:13,288 --> 00:22:14,768
You can see me.
439
00:22:14,811 --> 00:22:17,423
You know, I don't
really exist, right?
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00:22:17,466 --> 00:22:19,120
I understand.
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00:22:19,163 --> 00:22:20,861
My man.
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00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:23,167
Deja vu
all over again.
443
00:22:23,211 --> 00:22:24,299
We can do this.
444
00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:25,561
We can definitely do this.
445
00:22:25,605 --> 00:22:27,302
Right?
446
00:22:28,825 --> 00:22:31,088
Gentlemen,
welcome to Buck's.
447
00:22:32,089 --> 00:22:34,396
So, how do you
two propose we turn
our company around?
448
00:22:37,443 --> 00:22:40,141
We're really excited
about a way to completely
reimagine TheGlobe.
449
00:22:40,184 --> 00:22:42,665
Yeah, it begins
with an entirely new staff.
450
00:22:59,290 --> 00:23:01,554
Well, well,
well, Will and Brian.
451
00:23:01,597 --> 00:23:04,818
Can't say I'm surprised
because you're a couple
of , and .
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00:23:04,861 --> 00:23:06,254
Mike, Ed.
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00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:07,603
Thank you.
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00:23:07,647 --> 00:23:09,779
Go yourselves.
455
00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:12,956
There were a couple of
employees that were bright
guys in their own right that
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00:23:14,218 --> 00:23:16,917
were trying to do the right
thing for the company.
457
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,136
It's just
business, fellas.
458
00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:22,357
They just sort of aligned
against Todd and Steph.
459
00:23:22,923 --> 00:23:24,664
It felt like a
betrayal to Todd and I.
460
00:23:24,707 --> 00:23:26,970
The fact that Mike Egan
took the meeting felt
like a betrayal.
461
00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:29,451
Implying that we weren't
doing a good enough job.
462
00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:34,238
They were very unhappy
um, with the fact that
that meeting occurred.
463
00:23:35,457 --> 00:23:37,981
They think that we could've
handled it differently.
464
00:23:38,025 --> 00:23:40,419
Um, yeah, you know,
maybe they're right.
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00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:43,030
This is huge.
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00:23:43,073 --> 00:23:45,162
"Calling the world's
largest software maker
untrustworthy,
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00:23:45,206 --> 00:23:50,385
U.S. District Judge Jackson
ordered Microsoft to be broken
into two smaller companies
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00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:54,737
to prevent it from violating
state and federal antitrust
laws in the future."
469
00:23:55,477 --> 00:23:57,697
This is unprecedented.
470
00:23:57,740 --> 00:24:02,005
"Microsoft was unwilling
to admit that it had violated
federal antitrust law and has
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00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:06,009
shown no willingness to
modify its business conduct."
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00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:08,621
Sounds about right.
473
00:24:08,664 --> 00:24:10,144
Whew.
474
00:24:10,187 --> 00:24:11,928
But Jim, it
doesn't really matter.
475
00:24:11,972 --> 00:24:14,235
The war is over and we lost.
476
00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:17,238
Well, at least it'll
level the playing field
for future companies.
477
00:24:18,413 --> 00:24:21,938
You remember what it was
like to be a 22-year-old
wunderkind with a dream?
478
00:24:22,765 --> 00:24:26,465
Like those fellas
that just left?
479
00:24:27,074 --> 00:24:28,989
Oh, come on, Marc,
this is a win.
480
00:24:29,032 --> 00:24:31,557
We've been fighting these
sonsabitches forever.
481
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,906
And we got em.
482
00:24:32,949 --> 00:24:35,256
And it's the right call.
483
00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:39,086
The right thing finally
prevailed for one damn
time in big business.
484
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,958
That doesn't make you happy?
485
00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:44,787
Nothing? Anything?
486
00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:48,835
Well, we'll
see if it sticks.
487
00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:52,534
Really, Jim, I do
really need to go.
488
00:24:52,578 --> 00:24:55,058
There's just so
much work to do.
489
00:24:55,842 --> 00:24:59,236
Yeah, yeah, I hear that
from anybody except Jim Clark.
490
00:25:00,194 --> 00:25:02,239
I'm pretty sure
the other Jim is riding
around on his self-driving
491
00:25:02,283 --> 00:25:03,414
yacht right now.
492
00:25:03,458 --> 00:25:04,764
Maybe you need
a couple of those.
493
00:25:04,807 --> 00:25:06,766
Yeah, I don't think so.
494
00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:09,072
Maybe I need
a couple of those.
495
00:25:09,116 --> 00:25:12,989
Jim, what you did,
fighting Microsoft, that was.
496
00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:17,777
Thank you.
497
00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:20,606
I appreciate that.
498
00:25:21,171 --> 00:25:22,956
You take care of yourself.
499
00:25:22,999 --> 00:25:25,436
Yeah. I am.
500
00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:31,094
Don't get me wrong.
I think they're
a great company.
501
00:25:31,138 --> 00:25:34,576
But I think there's a
paradigm shift happening here,
or a platform shift where um,
502
00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:37,579
by and large things are now
happening you know, with or
without Microsoft, they're,
503
00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,538
they're no longer the
center of the universe.
504
00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:43,585
It made
the industry more
competitive as you rolled into
505
00:25:43,629 --> 00:25:45,326
the 2000 decade.
506
00:25:45,369 --> 00:25:49,025
It probably created products
like Google and uh Facebook.
507
00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:52,986
They may not have existed
had that ruling not have
been passed down and
508
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:55,336
phased in and implemented.
509
00:25:57,686 --> 00:26:01,211
It's just such a
stupid thing to fall for; some
kind of father figure-mentor
510
00:26:01,255 --> 00:26:03,736
comes along and I turn
into an 8-year-old kid.
511
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:06,652
Egan was the guy who
made it all happen for us;
512
00:26:06,695 --> 00:26:08,610
gave us the keys
to the kingdom.
513
00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:11,700
Just really hurts that
he'd go all the way to a
full douchebag betrayal.
514
00:26:12,222 --> 00:26:14,224
You think of any
possible way to fix this?
515
00:26:14,268 --> 00:26:16,662
I mean, we could
force Will and Brian out
because of our position,
516
00:26:16,705 --> 00:26:19,447
but if Egan wants them in
he could just call a vote.
517
00:26:19,752 --> 00:26:22,319
Hey.
What?
518
00:26:22,363 --> 00:26:24,278
When's the last
time we talked about, like,
519
00:26:24,321 --> 00:26:26,585
the reason we
started this company?
520
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,373
Like our
"mission statement?"
521
00:26:32,416 --> 00:26:35,898
Oh, God.
522
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:43,427
A really, really,
really long time.
523
00:26:43,906 --> 00:26:44,951
"Change the world."
524
00:26:44,994 --> 00:26:46,213
"Democratize information."
525
00:26:46,256 --> 00:26:48,345
"Help like-minded
people find each other."
526
00:26:48,389 --> 00:26:52,523
All that.
A year, two, more?
527
00:26:53,307 --> 00:26:58,312
A million years ago.
Yeah.
528
00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:15,721
I'm out.
529
00:27:15,764 --> 00:27:18,854
I'm out.
We're out.
530
00:27:18,898 --> 00:27:20,639
It's time, buddy.
531
00:27:20,682 --> 00:27:22,945
.
532
00:27:23,772 --> 00:27:26,557
Todd and I decided that
moment, we're out, we're
done, we're resigning.
533
00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:29,952
At the time that
we step down, we thought
we should step down.
534
00:27:31,214 --> 00:27:33,913
One, the stock performance
was not particularly good.
535
00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:37,481
The job had become
much less fun.
536
00:27:38,047 --> 00:27:42,356
We did not think we
had a strategy that
would take us through this
537
00:27:43,792 --> 00:27:45,576
time of difficulty.
538
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:49,798
And so I remember feeling
the decision to step
away was entirely good.
539
00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:53,236
I thought it was appropriate
and I thought it was good.
540
00:27:54,498 --> 00:27:56,979
I'm telling
you guys, Paul was there,
Fenne was talking about
541
00:27:57,023 --> 00:27:59,112
God and spankings.
542
00:27:59,155 --> 00:28:01,767
More importantly,
he blew 12 million of the
company's money on a
543
00:28:01,810 --> 00:28:03,464
failed beta test.
544
00:28:03,507 --> 00:28:05,640
I've been
looking at the books,
which are a mess,
545
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,773
and it looks much more
like 20 million to me.
546
00:28:07,816 --> 00:28:10,297
Look, it's
very possible we might
need some police backup here.
547
00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,212
Ok, this guy's a
freakin' nutbucket.
548
00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:14,518
What we need is
one more board member so
we can vote this guy out,
549
00:28:14,562 --> 00:28:16,607
if that's the consensus.
550
00:28:16,651 --> 00:28:19,175
They needed one
more member to show up and
he's out on a horseback ride.
551
00:28:30,012 --> 00:28:31,666
Gentlemen.
552
00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:38,934
So Michael,
you understand our position.
553
00:28:38,978 --> 00:28:41,154
We think we understand yours.
554
00:28:42,024 --> 00:28:43,896
Your chairmanship is in a
very precarious position.
555
00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:47,726
I've reached
an interesting agreement
with a certain gentleman
556
00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:52,034
from the board, but
we'll leave that action
for last in our meeting.
557
00:28:57,518 --> 00:29:00,477
.
558
00:29:10,836 --> 00:29:13,490
Michael.
559
00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:21,194
We're asking you to step
down as CTO and Chairman
and remove yourself from the
560
00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:24,371
premises immediately,
following a binding vote
by the members present.
561
00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:32,858
.
562
00:29:48,874 --> 00:29:53,008
You are all going
to burn in hell for what
you're trying to do to me.
563
00:29:54,009 --> 00:29:56,229
All in
favor of removal, aye.
564
00:29:56,925 --> 00:30:00,581
-Aye, aye, aye.
565
00:30:00,842 --> 00:30:05,629
Paul.
Aye.
566
00:30:11,244 --> 00:30:14,116
Now I know
who my Judas is.
567
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,165
The gathering of
the board resolves when they
finally muster the votes that
568
00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:23,038
they need to actually eject
Michael Fenne from Pixelon.
569
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:26,650
Finally, reality
catches up with him.
570
00:30:28,348 --> 00:30:34,397
One possible explanation for
the severance package is that
they still hoped to market
571
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:40,447
this technology to somebody
and the last thing they
wanted was a disgruntled
572
00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:45,147
founder who's going
and trying to torpedo
potential deals, I mean,
573
00:30:45,191 --> 00:30:47,280
that's certainly
one explanation.
574
00:30:47,323 --> 00:30:51,153
Another is that they
knew of his past and knew
of his false identity,
575
00:30:52,111 --> 00:30:54,417
and wanted to keep that quiet.
576
00:30:54,461 --> 00:31:00,032
It seems clear that you would
only pay a severance package
to somebody who's behaved like
577
00:31:00,815 --> 00:31:05,689
this, if you want to keep
something quiet, that you
want to make something really
578
00:31:06,299 --> 00:31:09,389
unpleasant go away.
579
00:31:09,432 --> 00:31:13,959
Crucified at the altar
of greed and mediocrity.
580
00:31:16,787 --> 00:31:19,268
Another takedown
by the Hit Squad.
581
00:31:24,404 --> 00:31:30,062
How do we know
when irrational exuberance has
unduly escalated asset values?
582
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,587
Investors believe they
could get rich quick by
583
00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:35,763
buying Internet stock.
584
00:31:35,806 --> 00:31:38,853
Companies are going
public at prices far lower than
they would have a year ago.
585
00:31:39,245 --> 00:31:40,855
Cyberspace investments
have proved to be risky.
586
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,814
IPOs in the technology field
have been hit really hard.
587
00:31:43,858 --> 00:31:47,253
Many of those new
issues have failed to
live up to expectations.
588
00:31:47,296 --> 00:31:49,255
So how did it happen?
589
00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:52,606
Why did so many investors
put so much money behind
so many companies that
590
00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:54,956
had never made a dime?
591
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,654
In hindsight, it all
appears so obvious.
592
00:31:57,698 --> 00:32:01,136
The Internet mania was
a giant bubble,
destined to burst.
593
00:32:03,051 --> 00:32:04,574
.
594
00:32:06,707 --> 00:32:08,491
So, that happened.
595
00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:10,537
The bubble was
burst; the Internet
stock market was dead.
596
00:32:11,407 --> 00:32:12,800
Why did
the bubble burst?
597
00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:16,238
Not enough was real,
and um, eventually, you know,
598
00:32:16,282 --> 00:32:17,892
investors started
pulling the plug.
599
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,155
The world had
turned on the Internet, right?
600
00:32:20,199 --> 00:32:22,592
It was panic.
601
00:32:22,636 --> 00:32:25,508
People had over-extended
themselves, they had
never lived in a world
602
00:32:25,552 --> 00:32:27,249
where things stop.
603
00:32:27,293 --> 00:32:29,208
And suddenly they did.
604
00:32:29,251 --> 00:32:32,820
Everybody had
borrowed on margin and
bought stocks and the minute
605
00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:36,911
those stock prices fell
enough and they got called
in on their margins,
606
00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,653
they had to sell,
sell at any price.
607
00:32:39,696 --> 00:32:41,916
I was certainly
impacted by the bubble burst.
608
00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:45,615
And it caused a lot of people
a lot of pain and suffering.
609
00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:48,140
Not many people
walked away billionaires.
610
00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:52,405
And I would, I would venture
to even say something I've
never said before which is,
611
00:32:53,145 --> 00:32:57,062
I don't think
the right people walked away
necessarily, as billionaires.
612
00:32:57,932 --> 00:33:01,240
I'm not sure it was equitable.
613
00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:04,547
And I think that's what
bothers me to this day.
614
00:33:04,591 --> 00:33:08,508
That many of those
people who I think put
in their heart and soul,
615
00:33:08,551 --> 00:33:12,512
probably didn't get
quite enough really, when
all was said and done.
616
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,169
And um, that's,
that's too bad.
617
00:33:20,955 --> 00:33:25,438
The pink slip parties
came about after people
started getting laid off,
618
00:33:26,221 --> 00:33:30,704
the same way the
Internet took off and the
tech jobs like exploded,
619
00:33:31,487 --> 00:33:36,188
when the dot-com bust
started to happen, people
were getting laid off every day
620
00:33:36,231 --> 00:33:38,581
you would hear a friend saying
they got laid off.
621
00:33:38,625 --> 00:33:40,583
It was just like
a wave of layoffs.
622
00:33:40,627 --> 00:33:43,586
When the bubble
collapsed suddenly people
were losing their jobs,
623
00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:47,851
so I came up with the
idea of hosting these
Pink Slip parties,
624
00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:51,116
where employers could
network and connect with
potential employees.
625
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:55,859
Candlelight is not for
romance, but for resumes.
626
00:33:55,903 --> 00:33:59,167
This Pink Slip happy
hour links ex-dot-comers
with recruiters.
627
00:34:00,299 --> 00:34:03,345
We'll be doing them
every month until they're
not needed anymore.
628
00:34:03,389 --> 00:34:05,391
It was stressful.
629
00:34:05,434 --> 00:34:06,783
Everyone was losing
their jobs all around me
and I didn't really know what
630
00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:07,915
was going to happen.
631
00:34:07,958 --> 00:34:09,438
Even my day job
laid off everybody.
632
00:34:09,482 --> 00:34:11,179
They went out of business.
633
00:34:11,223 --> 00:34:13,355
Luckily, I had just
started making money off
the Pink Slip parties.
634
00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:17,751
But I didn't feel like that
was going to be long-lived
because everyone was fleeing
635
00:34:17,794 --> 00:34:21,146
by the thousands.
636
00:34:22,756 --> 00:34:24,584
We are going to drink.
637
00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:26,586
Dance a little.
Network a lot.
638
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:31,025
And by the end of the
night, we will have new
jobs or at the very least,
639
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:34,376
not remember losing
our old ones.
640
00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:44,821
The Pink Slip
parties lasted about a year
and a half and then I had
641
00:34:44,865 --> 00:34:46,388
to close the site.
642
00:34:46,432 --> 00:34:48,608
Honestly, it was
kind of a relief.
643
00:35:01,925 --> 00:35:04,145
I'd like to report
a sighting of a fugitive.
644
00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:09,368
Somehow Michael Fenne
gets wind gets wind that
his secret identity
645
00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,327
has been blown.
646
00:35:12,371 --> 00:35:17,202
I'm a child of God who
made a mistake and who has
suffered miserably for that.
647
00:35:55,936 --> 00:36:00,549
I was mystified when
I learned that Michael Fenne
was an elaborate cover for a
648
00:36:00,593 --> 00:36:03,987
fugitive from the law,
David Kim Stanley.
649
00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:07,252
I didn't understand how
that could've happened.
650
00:36:07,295 --> 00:36:09,254
I didn't understand how
I could've missed it.
651
00:36:09,297 --> 00:36:12,779
I didn't understand
how multiple investors
could have missed it.
652
00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:16,348
I didn't understand how the
world could've missed this.
653
00:36:46,943 --> 00:36:50,643
This was a company
that had spent, upwards
of 8 to 12 million dollars
654
00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:54,864
on a launch party,
and was extensively
chronicled in the news.
655
00:36:55,082 --> 00:36:56,257
How could this happen?
656
00:36:56,301 --> 00:36:57,998
I still don't really know.
657
00:36:58,041 --> 00:37:01,001
We found out
that, you know, he wasn't
who he said he was.
658
00:37:02,045 --> 00:37:04,831
We found out that he was
you wanted on, you know,
charges from another state.
659
00:37:05,527 --> 00:37:08,138
The word was he was, you know,
a fugitive from the law.
660
00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:09,749
That just blew my mind.
661
00:37:09,792 --> 00:37:12,273
Virginia's 10
Most Wanted List.
662
00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:14,144
David Kim Stanley.
663
00:37:14,188 --> 00:37:16,451
I, I was flabbergasted.
664
00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:18,105
I couldn't believe it.
665
00:37:44,784 --> 00:37:49,005
Hi. This is
David Kim Stanley.
666
00:37:49,049 --> 00:37:54,576
I'm at Big Bear
discount gas, I'll be on
a bench by a large bear.
667
00:37:58,406 --> 00:38:00,016
.
668
00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:02,628
.
669
00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:07,807
.
670
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:17,643
.
671
00:38:20,907 --> 00:38:22,648
Copy, be advised,
672
00:38:22,691 --> 00:38:25,955
David Kim Stanley
is in custody,
we're transporting now.
673
00:38:35,791 --> 00:38:38,141
First comes the
boom, then the shake out.
674
00:38:38,185 --> 00:38:41,536
Streaming video sight,
Pixelon.com is mired in
lawsuits seeking the breakup
675
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:43,364
of the company.
676
00:38:43,408 --> 00:38:47,455
When he talked
about his technology, he
had a glimmer in his eye.
677
00:38:48,543 --> 00:38:51,590
There was almost a halo
emanating from his head.
678
00:38:51,633 --> 00:38:55,594
He either really did believe
it himself, or he was a
very, very convincing actor.
679
00:38:56,769 --> 00:39:00,860
It didn't matter if
it was 1895, 1995, or 2018.
680
00:39:01,991 --> 00:39:05,081
Scams all follow the
same basic playbook.
681
00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:08,346
Everybody's getting rich,
you're being left out.
682
00:39:09,608 --> 00:39:14,264
It was getting
bigger and crazier than
I imagined it ever could.
683
00:39:14,308 --> 00:39:16,049
And yet you continued.
684
00:39:16,092 --> 00:39:19,226
Because it
burned inside of me.
685
00:39:20,096 --> 00:39:23,796
Would you have
kept running forever?
686
00:39:25,537 --> 00:39:29,758
I always planned to
come back and you can't argue
with that because I did.
687
00:39:32,805 --> 00:39:35,547
And what would you like
the world to know about you?
688
00:39:42,336 --> 00:39:48,037
I'm a child of God
who made a mistake and
has suffered terribly for it.
689
00:40:00,136 --> 00:40:02,878
It was
more important than you
can imagine right now,
690
00:40:02,922 --> 00:40:06,360
when the concept of
the browser and the
Web and the Internet
691
00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:08,536
have become conflated.
692
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:14,673
But, when, um, the browser,
mm, was created, it changed
the whole experience
693
00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:17,763
of being online.
694
00:40:17,806 --> 00:40:22,724
So it's interesting
that the first browser
was called Navigator um,
695
00:40:23,986 --> 00:40:27,468
it made it possible
to really explore.
696
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:34,170
The fact that anyone in
the world can connect to you
from anywhere in the world,
697
00:40:35,911 --> 00:40:42,004
anytime of day, any day,
at high speed in an
instant, is unbelievable.
698
00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:48,446
It was a great ride
and we changed the world,
we kicked off the commercial
699
00:40:48,489 --> 00:40:52,406
Internet, make no mistake
about that and I don't think
it would've happened in the
700
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:55,453
same time frame without us.
701
00:40:56,018 --> 00:41:01,328
It really
unleased the power of an
inter-connected world.
702
00:41:02,851 --> 00:41:07,116
What we did was
very, very important and
I'm glad and I think almost
703
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,946
everybody associated
with it takes a great
deal of pride in being part of
704
00:41:10,990 --> 00:41:13,775
something that big
and worthwhile.
705
00:41:13,819 --> 00:41:16,517
You know, we weren't
just picking our
toes in Poughkeepsie.
706
00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:22,262
We were at
the time in Silicon Valley
uh, the revolutionaries.
707
00:41:23,437 --> 00:41:26,658
We were the ones that would
take down the big companies,
Microsoft being one of them.
708
00:41:27,702 --> 00:41:33,099
And we had a suction drawing
of brilliant people that said,
I wanna be in the resistance,
709
00:41:33,142 --> 00:41:35,362
I wanna fight that.
710
00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:38,974
There was definitely a
Phoenix-like element to the
dream of, of a free browser.
711
00:41:40,106 --> 00:41:43,675
Firefox, which is sort of the
evolution of everything that
we were doing back in the '90s
712
00:41:43,718 --> 00:41:47,592
with Netscape, has succeeded
where, where we maybe
as a corporation failed,
713
00:41:48,157 --> 00:41:50,638
the ideal succeeded
and I love that.
714
00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:52,553
I was just a build engineer.
715
00:41:52,597 --> 00:41:55,817
But I was
part of something that was
special and I still think,
716
00:41:55,861 --> 00:41:58,559
I think a lot of us still
think it was truly special.
717
00:41:58,603 --> 00:42:02,607
It was an
incredible time, it's the most
joyous time of my work life.
718
00:42:04,565 --> 00:42:06,045
.
719
00:42:06,088 --> 00:42:09,614
What we really were,
when people dug creating things,
720
00:42:09,657 --> 00:42:13,966
and it was very artistic,
totally artistic, and so we,
we were able to collectively
721
00:42:14,009 --> 00:42:16,446
make our art.
722
00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:21,234
And get it to the people
via the Internet and in
giving them this product,
723
00:42:21,843 --> 00:42:24,542
we were giving them
the Internet too.
724
00:42:26,108 --> 00:42:28,633
Perfect. Perfect.
725
00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:32,201
The story of
the beginning of the
dot-com era is often told
726
00:42:32,245 --> 00:42:34,029
with these tales of
727
00:42:34,073 --> 00:42:38,251
absolute madness, sort of,
both extravagance, which
we did not have,
728
00:42:38,947 --> 00:42:41,950
as well as ethical lapses.
729
00:42:42,603 --> 00:42:47,608
Think about all of the hand
ringing and, and lawsuits
at the end of this period.
730
00:42:48,914 --> 00:42:51,177
We did not have any of that.
731
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:52,961
It was, it was positive.
732
00:42:53,005 --> 00:42:57,139
We're positive
people, but I'd be lying
if I didn't say uh,
733
00:42:58,445 --> 00:43:00,665
it wasn't a disappointment.
734
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:04,930
Netscape represented
the beginning of "The New Era"
of technology and a browser.
735
00:43:06,018 --> 00:43:10,588
TheGlobe simply represented
a concept of "The Internet"
and virtual community
736
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:12,067
and living online.
737
00:43:12,111 --> 00:43:14,069
So that's what created
these incredible surges.
738
00:43:14,113 --> 00:43:17,420
Nobody was buying into
the specifics of TheGlobe.
739
00:43:17,464 --> 00:43:21,033
To both their tributes,
Todd and Steph and
Michael, they both saw it.
740
00:43:21,424 --> 00:43:23,644
They knew it.
741
00:43:23,688 --> 00:43:27,387
And yeah, TheGlobe,
you know, has been regarded
as a precursor to Facebook.
742
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:33,219
It was just a moment
in time where the entire
sector was a bit early.
743
00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:38,311
When Facebook
started in 2004'ish, it was
ten years after TheGlobe,
744
00:43:39,747 --> 00:43:43,316
computers cost one
one-hundredth, bandwidth
was one one-thousandth.
745
00:43:43,925 --> 00:43:46,101
So I have no regrets there.
746
00:43:46,145 --> 00:43:47,973
I don't think we could have
pulled off Facebook but we
came as close to pulling off
747
00:43:48,016 --> 00:43:51,541
Facebook as one could have in
the, the first dot-com era.
748
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,241
You know it's like,
what we unleashed was sort
of the, the joking thing.
749
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,070
And we have unleashed
something completely
uncontrollable,
750
00:43:58,113 --> 00:44:01,421
but that's what I love
about the Internet now is
that at the moment it is
751
00:44:01,464 --> 00:44:04,337
uncontrollable and we
actually need to make
sure it stays that way.
752
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:06,600
All of us
benefit from technology
and are afraid of it.
753
00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:10,691
All of us look at our
kids and see how quickly they
adopt to new technology and
754
00:44:10,735 --> 00:44:12,127
wonder how they do it.
755
00:44:12,171 --> 00:44:14,216
And you know what?
756
00:44:14,260 --> 00:44:16,741
They're gonna feel the
same way about their kids
who are gonna feel the same
757
00:44:16,784 --> 00:44:18,525
way about their kids.
758
00:44:18,568 --> 00:44:22,268
This town is
always gonna have another
shot, another leg,
759
00:44:22,703 --> 00:44:24,749
we just don't know what it is,
760
00:44:24,792 --> 00:44:26,925
we don't know when this
leg's gonna end and we don't
know when the next one's
761
00:44:26,968 --> 00:44:28,796
gonna start or
what's gonna start it.
762
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,712
But that's what Silicon
Valley has proven to be.
763
00:44:31,756 --> 00:44:34,280
I am so glad
I was there for the
Internet revolution.
764
00:44:34,323 --> 00:44:36,717
I'm happy to be
around for the, for
the cryptocurrency and
765
00:44:36,761 --> 00:44:38,676
crypto revolution in general.
766
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,505
The
world keeps changing, and
being able to tap into this
767
00:44:42,549 --> 00:44:47,293
zeitgeist is going to
be key to the long term
success of the product.
768
00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:13,406
I will be in this and
many other places of splendor.
769
00:45:15,756 --> 00:45:18,367
I will be singing and playing,
770
00:45:18,411 --> 00:45:21,762
and taking a true
love with me to all the
places you will only be able
771
00:45:21,806 --> 00:45:24,460
to think about in your head.
772
00:45:24,504 --> 00:45:27,115
I will live them.
773
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:32,860
And the saddest part for
you is that I am maybe one of
the few people alive that can
774
00:45:32,904 --> 00:45:35,776
actually accomplish this.
775
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:41,390
Recover completely from
the fatal wound that you
gave and rise like a Phoenix
776
00:45:41,434 --> 00:45:45,873
from the ashes of
fiery death to be reborn
so much better than before.
777
00:45:48,267 --> 00:45:53,272
And you know if I have
anything, I have that
kind of gift from God.
778
00:45:55,361 --> 00:45:57,406
But now.
779
00:45:58,668 --> 00:46:02,107
Onto the good stuff
of my new life.
780
00:47:52,173 --> 00:47:53,218
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