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We're taking
the Microsoft meeting.
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Gates will try to
close us on some kind of
strategic partnership.
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Or
eliminate us entirely.
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I just want to
be clear that Microsoft owns
the Internet.
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Either
partner or compete.
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That's when
Microsoft declared their
efforts against us.
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Wall Street has
finally got a new favorite
child in this bland little
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strip mall called
Silicon Valley.
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I feel like we go
broke every two weeks.
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All we need
is somebody who's willing
to roll the dice with us.
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I'm in.
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We were now
on this mission to go
into a bigger pond,
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relocate to New York City.
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-We're up!
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The whole team could
not have been more excited.
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Michael Fenne?
Huh?
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Can I show you this?
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I took a bunch
of existing technology and
Frankensteined it together.
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We are going to
be very, very wealthy men.
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-Yea!
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You're
folding the company?
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Please tell me you
got the patents?
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What?
You think I had the time
to get the patents done?
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It's David.
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This guy who has been
calling himself Michael Fenne
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is really a fugitive of the law.
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David Kim Stanley.
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God has blessed me
with a unique ability
to defy reality.
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The fatal error is a
piece of code that causes
the program to abort.
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Things completely
stopped working properly,
like you can't continue.
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Something went wrong that
we can't recover from.
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It can be presented in a
variety of ways and the really
irritating thing is when it
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happens arbitrarily and
not consistently because it
makes it really hard to fix.
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The folks at Time
called us and said they wanted
to put him on the cover.
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It was always work to get
Marc to agree to do too much,
you know, to do anything.
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I think he was never thrilled
about this cover, you know,
the fact that he was pictured
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on a throne with bare feet.
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Okay,
let's try one with a
little bigger smile.
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Great.
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Do you see that?
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This is Marc Andreessen on
the cover of Time Magazine.
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This was quite
the moment for us.
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Look at these toenails.
Crazy, right?
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.
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Marc, how's
my favorite pin-up
doing this morning?
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You hanging in there?
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How often would you
say you clip your toenails?
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How often
do I clip my toenails?
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I dunno.
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About once every two weeks,
I guess, y'know, unless I'm
gonna be some place where
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people are gonna see my feet.
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Like, say, on the cover
of a major news magazine?
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You're barefoot?
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Apparently the
idea is these aren't your
father's titans of industry.
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This new generation doesn't
play by the rules, or
own shoes, for that matter.
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Well, uh, they
ask you to take off any more
clothes, you let me know.
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Jim Clark's on.
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Come on, light, come on!
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Jim.
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So I got a call this morning
from Rick Washburn at KPMG.
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What are you doing?!
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You're cutting me off!
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Now what are you
doing, you're stopping?
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C'mon!
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KPMG is removing Navigator
software from their system.
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They're terminating
our relationship.
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What do you
mean terminating?
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We just made the deal.
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Apparently someone
paid off our contract.
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Someone?
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Someone who
can afford to pay off
$25 million contract
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without blinking an eye.
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I'll give you three guesses.
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Microsoft
pig .
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KPMG's a
big consulting firm.
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I'm not saying it ain't
a kick in the kiwis, but.
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17,000 users, 120 U.S.
offices down the toilet.
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COME! ON!
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Look, we
got Microsoft beat
on market share.
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We got 'em beat on tech.
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So they're throwing
money at it.
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We just keep doing what we do.
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Navigator 2.0 still on
target for a February
5th ship date, Marc?
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.
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Marc, you there?
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Marc? You there?
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.
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Look, buddy,
I'm in no mood.
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.
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Ahhhhhh, oh
my God, oh my God!
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Amy. Amy.
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Shh, listen to
me, listen to me.
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You see all that?
It didn't happen.
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It didn't?
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No.
That dude ain't here.
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Also, I don't really exist.
You understand?
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I'm an amalgam of all
the various investment
bankers of the period.
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Right.
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I'm imaginary.
You understand, right?
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Yeah.
Good.
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Now give me a second, I
have some explaining to do.
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So while Microsoft didn't
literally kill anyone,
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they were coming hard
after Netscape.
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And in a fashion that
would make a gangster say,
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"Oh my God, that was
pretty gangster."
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Let me explain it to you.
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So in 1980, IBM was 3,000
times the size of Microsoft.
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I know, right?
That's huge.
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But ten years later, Gates
ruled Silicon Valley, and
Big Blue was gasping for air.
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You see, IBM just wasn't
aggressive enough in
fighting off the upstart.
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And Gates was not about
to let his $100 billion
baby suffer the same fate.
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Microsoft intended on
staying on top, and
to accomplish that,
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one thing remained
very clear: they needed
to make Netscape dead.
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Again, just a metaphor.
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Like, they weren't
actually killing, anyway.
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Ah. Whoo. I'm back.
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.
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Hey!
Get movin', man!
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.
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Investors
clamored to buy shares
of Amazon.com this week.
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One in every four IPOs
is technology-related.
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You
better get on board now.
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Institutional investors
gobbled up the most
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promising new issues.
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Some of these valuations
are in another galaxy.
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Valuation
levels in the Internet
industry are just obscene.
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We're in a true mania
for Internet stocks.
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So you had a lot
of people with a lot of money
and nothing to do with it.
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So you had parties and
Ferraris and planes.
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And they were
all just like spending
crazy amounts of money,
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they wanted like the
best gourmet food,
they wanted parties.
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The parties were
lavish and everybody is there
kind of schmoozing and that
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was a big part of the
culture at the time.
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The nights were
just whirlwinds, you know,
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you wouldn't just go
from party to party.
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And if you went somewhere
and it wasn't that exciting
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you'd just move on
to the next place.
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I mean, at a certain point,
you'd just hear about some of
the parties from your friends
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and you would go to these
other parties, you couldn't,
you know, hit everything.
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It got to the point
where there could be 6 or 7
launch parties in one night.
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It was great, if you were in
your 20s or 30s and single,
which basically everyone was.
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I just don't get it.
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What's there to get?
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Jeeves. Jeeves.
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I'm desperate to know,
say, Latvia's biggest
export and I ask Jeeves?
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You're desperate to
know Latvia's biggest export?
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Maybe.
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And because I'm a discerning
seeker of information, my
first thought of course is to
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go online and ask
Jeeves, who's a butler.
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Jeeves isn't a
butler, he's a valet.
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He takes care of the
master of the house, lays
out his clothes, handles.
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How's that
not a butler?
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The point is of all
the literary characters they
could have built their company
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concept around, this
is who they choose?
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You are way
overthinking this.
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Or maybe they're
way under-thinking it.
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That butler's valued
at 900 million pounds.
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But whatever.
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Some of the
parties were insane.
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Startups were throwing
$100,000 parties before
they'd even earned a cent.
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Does anyone have a
clue what this company does?
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Anyone?
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Something
to do with shells.
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Y'know who would have
the definitive answer on this?
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No! Don't!
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We
should ask Jeeves.
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To our generous hosts.
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When your company
invariably goes belly up
due to profligate spending
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and an utter lack of revenue.
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We shall remember you,
whoever you are dot-com,
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if not your name or the
service you offered.
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But!
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For this magnificent
array of free food and
beverage you provided
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before your untimely demise.
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You put a dot-com
on anything and its value went
up in the minds of people or
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you looked cooler or you
seemed more important.
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And so businesses were
putting dot-coms on
the cover of magazines
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and they didn't even
have websites.
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And if they'd had a website,
nobody was running it,
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cause they didn't even
know what it was.
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The Internet was the
hot thing and everybody knew
they needed to be there,
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bringing Internet streaming
to Hollywood, this was an idea
that Hollywood was already
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vastly interested in.
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To have high quality
video over the Internet.
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That was enough to get
anybody's attention
in those days.
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Hi, I'm
Michael Fenne.
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After Robert Dunning
and Michael Fenne part ways,
Michael quickly starts showing
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off the same digital motion
off-the-shelf technology to a
whole new crop of investors.
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Right up
there, ok, thank you.
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He's
now started a whole new
company called Pixelon.
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Only this time
Michael is passing the
technology off as, uh,
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proprietary technology
that's unique and has never
been, uh, done before.
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And he's passing himself
off as the brainchild
behind all of it.
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Hello Mr.
Fenne, how are you?
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Brian.
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Hi, Brian.
You see that?
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Guh, look at that.
Keep it up boys!
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Brian!
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Wow, working at a big
time Hollywood studio,
that must be exciting.
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
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We're going to go pick up Stu
up at the marketing building.
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But you
hate marketing.
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Um.
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Don't worry,
I ain't gonna spill
the beans to your boss.
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Marketing's fine,
it's just, y'know, it's
not my life's ambition.
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Let me guess,
you want to direct?
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No, I'm
actually, I'm hoping to
be a costume designer.
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Don't hope.
Just do it.
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It's Brian, right?
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Don't let anything stop you
from achieving that goal.
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You do whatever it
takes, you hear me?
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Hey! I need you
to say it, Brian.
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I need you to say
that you hear me.
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Um, I hear you.
Atta boy.
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Thanks.
He's up there.
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Pixelon was
gonna be everything.
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Pixelon was going to
be the platform that
delivered content,
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but they were also
going to be the content
provider, themselves.
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They were going to have
a thousand channels.
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There he is.
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Stu Keller.
You must be?
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Michael Fenne.
What a pleasure.
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Pleasure is all mine.
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I'd like to introduce you
to my creative team, why
don't we hop in the back.
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Alrighty.
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Now Joe Q. Public, he's
a hard core Trekkie.
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He can wish you
a Merry Christmas in
Klingon and Romulan,
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and he is dying just
to know what that new
movie's going to be like.
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So what's Mr. Public do?
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Buy a ticket to "Men
in Black" and he's just hoping
and praying, dear God, please,
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I'll be good, that they
show that Star Trek trailer?
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Or watch TV all day long,
just wishing on a dream?
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If you were Paramount
the last thing you wanted was
to get beat by one of your
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competitors, and they're
putting some sort of trailer
for their next big movie that
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you're competing against and
they've got it on online and
they've got it on the Internet
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and you don't.
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It's all
about file compression.
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Hey, do you remember that
movie, "Sunset Boulevard"?
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Gloria Swanson, she says, "I'm
big, the pictures got small."
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Well, it's 50 years later,
the pictures got big again,
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only someone forgot
to tell Microsoft.
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Have you seen their
Windows Media Player?
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I'm not one to speak ill of
a competitor, and Bill Gates,
fierce competitor and a
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friend, but the screen's so
minuscule you need binoculars
to see the damn video.
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We're talking Star Trek here.
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Alright.
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Prepare to boldly go where
no man has gone before.
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Go ahead.
Get in there.
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Hey, I'm a big fan.
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Get in there, watch this.
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It's really,
really easy to fake it.
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And that's what they would do.
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They would take a
video and show it on
a PC and they'd say,
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this is what it looks like
only over a 56K modem.
255
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Now, we've got some things
we have to figure out.
256
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It's not quite ready to let
you just dial in right yet,
but look, it's on a PC.
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Well, anybody can do
that from a hard drive.
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It's really easy to
see how Paramount and some
of these other companies
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might have cut these deals.
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The downside of making deals
very quickly is that you had
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a lot less time to
scrutinize 'em.
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It's not 3-D but
it's got that sort of effect
where everything is separated.
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The
original BluBlockers
sunglasses, block 100%
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of the ultraviolet and blue
light, and lightweight nylon
frames, carrying case...
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You know, I never
thought SFGirl was going
to be this phenomenon.
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So I have this box of, like,
SFGirl memories, and one
of the things I have is this
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little case just full of
business cards I collected.
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It really just started
as a way for me
to make social plans.
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I'd recently left my job
for the tech industry and
thought it'd be fun to start
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hanging with more tech
folks and that whole scene.
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So I trotted out my new
programming skills, then
sent an email to 50 people,
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was like, "Hey, I
made this website."
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I actually toyed with the idea
of calling it "the watering
hole" because I was thinking
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it would be a place to meet
up and for people to connect.
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I went with
SFGirl.com instead.
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Anyway, people started
inviting their friends
to go on the site,
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and things just
sort of took off.
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Morning, sunshine.
I made you coffee.
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But then I drank it.
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Oh.
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I'm late for work.
I gotta go.
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Well, party's at
Ruby Skye tonight, right?
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Yeah, hopefully
I can make it.
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We have this deadline at work.
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Patty Beron
missing a party?
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So we were working
our day jobs, but then we
were going to these insane
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dot-com parties at night.
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People would say, "My
company's having an event,
it's going to be super fun,
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everyone's invited."
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The Cynosure Health
project is 2 weeks behind.
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Gavin, Jess, Julianne.
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"Party Exchange"
sprang from that.
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People would go on there
and post where to find the
coolest shindigs and soirees.
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That's when SFGirl
really started growing.
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I did all the correspondence,
I came up with
story ideas for the writers.
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We had site analytics and we
even had a server when the
site started getting bigger.
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Around 20,000 visits
a day was average.
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Patty, Patty,
could you come in here?
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I know the Cynosure
Health job is due on Friday
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and we're racing
the clock on that.
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It's just.
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There's this party.
303
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Yeah, and I
was planning on coming
in early tomorrow.
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I don't want you to think I'm.
305
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I don't think you're,
look, I want to go tonight.
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To this party.
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You want to
go to the party?
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Yeah.
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I was curious how hard would
it be to get on the VIP list?
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Consider it done.
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But if we see me there,
just keep walking.
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Oh, okay.
313
00:16:24,896 --> 00:16:27,116
I'm just joking,
Josh, we're good.
314
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The parties definitely
were for networking.
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00:16:29,466 --> 00:16:33,688
I mean, like, oh, what
do you do, wasn't such a
boring question back then,
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it was like, oh, I'm working
on this, and you should
check it out and it was like
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everything was kind
of new and exciting.
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Mike Egan very
much wanted to own
51% of the company.
319
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That level of investment meant
that he was entirely absorbed
with our future success.
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Yep, totally. I agree.
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00:16:56,754 --> 00:17:00,541
So, I had been an investment
banker, then I met a gentleman
named Michael Egan who is the
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owner of Alamo Rent A Car,
which we sold and then formed
Dancing Bear Investments to
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begin investing that capital.
324
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Yep, I'll let him know.
325
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Todd's right here, actually.
326
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Mike says hi.
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00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,903
Hey Mike.
328
00:17:14,946 --> 00:17:18,298
So Ed was Mike's right hand,
he was Mike's interpreter and
representative, ambassador,
329
00:17:18,341 --> 00:17:21,214
and also our ambassador
back to Mike.
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Yeah.
331
00:17:24,652 --> 00:17:27,220
Mike wants you to run the
numbers on maintaining
the subscription model.
332
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I thought that
was a dead issue.
333
00:17:32,616 --> 00:17:34,053
It's Mike.
He likes to be thorough.
334
00:17:34,096 --> 00:17:36,229
It's just TheGlobe's
been charging for access.
335
00:17:36,272 --> 00:17:39,797
Meanwhile, GeoCities has no
paywall and is absolutely
killing us on user growth.
336
00:17:40,494 --> 00:17:41,886
And how much did
Geocities lose last year?
337
00:17:41,930 --> 00:17:43,584
That's not the, it's
like with drug dealers.
338
00:17:43,627 --> 00:17:45,194
First one's free, right?
339
00:17:45,238 --> 00:17:49,894
You get them hooked, then, I
don't do drugs, or sell drugs.
340
00:17:49,938 --> 00:17:51,374
That's not the best example.
341
00:17:51,418 --> 00:17:54,334
What I'm saying is
revenues don't matter.
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They matter to the guy who
may or may not be writing you
a $5 million check.
343
00:17:57,772 --> 00:18:02,907
Todd and Steph were espousing
their belief that we must
remain free and we must grow
344
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the user-base at all costs.
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To grow, you know, the way
Facebook grew later on,
you know, a decade later.
346
00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:14,876
And Mike, knowing he
might have to foot
the bill, was look,
347
00:18:14,919 --> 00:18:19,315
we should have a path
towards profitability.
348
00:18:20,577 --> 00:18:22,275
Mike's ultimately going
to see it your way.
349
00:18:22,318 --> 00:18:23,885
I absolutely believe that.
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He trusts you and Steph.
351
00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:28,019
You should see the way
he lights up when he
talks about "the boys."
352
00:18:30,718 --> 00:18:32,720
But run the numbers.
353
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Where is Steph by the way?
354
00:18:36,854 --> 00:18:39,814
He's uh,
I'll go get him.
355
00:18:46,429 --> 00:18:49,519
Mike Eagan was
coming in guns blazing with
his investment thinking,
356
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"Oh my God," your
20 new subscription
models we should add on.
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And so people can subscribe
to their different daily
community, subscription,
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00:18:56,787 --> 00:18:59,921
subscription, subscription,
and eventually, Todd and I
had to tell Mike,
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"Mike, that was, that
was yesterday's model."
360
00:19:03,533 --> 00:19:05,840
It's not about the revenues.
Did you explain that?
361
00:19:05,883 --> 00:19:08,016
Yes, I explained that.
362
00:19:08,059 --> 00:19:10,453
Do we even
want his $5 million?
363
00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:13,587
Do we want $5 million?
364
00:19:13,630 --> 00:19:16,067
At that
valuation, we'd be giving
up an awful lot of control.
365
00:19:16,111 --> 00:19:18,374
Do we want
$5 million?!
366
00:19:18,418 --> 00:19:21,116
Steph, I mean, we've spent
the last four months, killing
ourselves to close this deal.
367
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,859
We've burned through our
initial stake, not to mention
a big chunk of our own money.
368
00:19:24,902 --> 00:19:28,732
I can't speak to
your finances, but I had to
race to the bank to cash my
369
00:19:28,776 --> 00:19:32,171
grandmother's $25 birthday check
so I didn't overdraw my account.
370
00:19:32,823 --> 00:19:35,913
Plus our servers,
which I don't know even
know if you know this,
371
00:19:35,957 --> 00:19:38,916
are kind of important to
what we do, are basically
being held together with
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00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,746
rubber bands and Scotch...
Hey Jeremy.
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00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:45,706
Oh hey Todd,
how's it going?
374
00:19:45,749 --> 00:19:47,186
I spilled coffee.
375
00:19:47,229 --> 00:19:50,537
Hey Jeremy.
376
00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:54,758
And you can say
goodbye to Jeremy!
377
00:19:54,802 --> 00:19:55,846
I love Jeremy.
378
00:19:55,890 --> 00:19:57,935
Who doesn't love Jeremy?!
379
00:19:57,979 --> 00:20:00,286
But we can't afford him
and a dozen other people
if we don't get more money.
380
00:20:00,329 --> 00:20:03,506
And in case you forgot, the
whole reason we're even having
this conversation in the men's
381
00:20:03,550 --> 00:20:06,857
room is because you have
been having non-stop stomach
aches from all the stress.
382
00:20:06,901 --> 00:20:09,947
You yelling
at me is definitely
helping on that count.
383
00:20:09,991 --> 00:20:13,951
Look, I agree
$5 million for half
of the company is steep,
384
00:20:13,995 --> 00:20:16,258
but this is our
best shot here.
385
00:20:16,302 --> 00:20:17,781
You're right.
It is. It is.
386
00:20:17,825 --> 00:20:19,740
I know, I'm being neurotic.
387
00:20:19,783 --> 00:20:21,220
It's our baby.
388
00:20:21,263 --> 00:20:23,526
Of course you're
being protective.
389
00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:25,049
Our baby. Aww.
390
00:20:25,093 --> 00:20:26,660
That's not what I...
391
00:20:26,703 --> 00:20:28,575
Todd, we have so much
to discuss about fatherhood.
392
00:20:28,618 --> 00:20:31,491
We had many debates.
And we had them all the time.
393
00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:35,973
Ultimately, we decided,
remove the subscription model.
394
00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:39,934
The moment we made
it free, site traffic
went up exponentially.
395
00:20:39,977 --> 00:20:41,675
Overnight.
396
00:20:41,718 --> 00:20:44,895
Mike was very
generous about allowing
us to make decisions,
397
00:20:44,939 --> 00:20:47,202
many that were
not good decisions.
398
00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:50,771
But he always had an
opinion and he often shared
his own vision of how things
399
00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:55,471
should be and sometimes
his vision was just miles away
400
00:20:55,515 --> 00:20:58,039
from how it actually
needed to be.
401
00:20:58,605 --> 00:20:59,606
Did you get
him up to speed?
402
00:20:59,649 --> 00:21:01,042
Yeah.
We're on it.
403
00:21:01,085 --> 00:21:03,000
.
404
00:21:03,610 --> 00:21:05,960
Hey Mike.
405
00:21:07,483 --> 00:21:09,398
Hey, when we first
met, did you think one day
406
00:21:09,442 --> 00:21:11,444
we'd be having a baby together?
407
00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:12,880
I'm really
regretting using that word.
408
00:21:12,923 --> 00:21:14,621
She's
growing up so fast.
409
00:21:14,664 --> 00:21:16,971
One day, she's going to
be a full-fledged online
virtual community.
410
00:21:17,014 --> 00:21:19,060
And we'll be like,
where did the time go?
411
00:21:19,103 --> 00:21:20,453
You are so weird.
412
00:21:23,673 --> 00:21:25,936
So she's touching
my butt, right?
413
00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:27,721
Go on.
414
00:21:27,764 --> 00:21:30,376
And the she takes
off my shirt, and then
I take off her shirt.
415
00:21:30,767 --> 00:21:32,073
Bra or no bra?
416
00:21:32,116 --> 00:21:33,770
At this point,
the bra's still on.
417
00:21:33,814 --> 00:21:36,251
But she says maybe we
should move to the bedroom.
418
00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:37,644
I'm so hard right now.
419
00:21:37,687 --> 00:21:40,124
Definitely keep going,
I'm almost there.
420
00:21:40,603 --> 00:21:42,126
I didn't realize
you were around, Tara.
421
00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:44,085
Sorry. I'll tell
you the rest later.
422
00:21:44,128 --> 00:21:45,956
Seriously Tara,
I can't get DSL
at my apartment.
423
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,263
This is my porn.
424
00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:52,093
Fine.
I'll put on headphones.
425
00:21:53,007 --> 00:21:54,138
So you're
going to the bedroom.
426
00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:55,966
Right, and
that's when I hear it.
427
00:21:56,010 --> 00:21:57,098
Hear what?
428
00:21:57,141 --> 00:21:58,099
It was her computer.
429
00:21:58,142 --> 00:21:59,361
What?
What did you hear?
430
00:21:59,405 --> 00:22:02,408
Bling!
You've got mail!
431
00:22:02,451 --> 00:22:05,585
AOL?! No!
America Online!
432
00:22:05,628 --> 00:22:07,326
And that's not all.
433
00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:09,980
She's not just an
AOL subscriber, she's a
software engineer there.
434
00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:12,243
Tell me you
walked out the door.
435
00:22:12,287 --> 00:22:16,073
It had been eight months
since I'd, look, maybe you
get laid on a regular basis.
436
00:22:16,117 --> 00:22:19,250
Yeah, it's
pretty much non-stop.
437
00:22:21,601 --> 00:22:24,168
Well, the sex
was pretty amazing.
438
00:22:24,212 --> 00:22:28,651
I don't care if
her vagina could do card
tricks, that is not okay.
439
00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:31,219
I thought you
put headphones on.
440
00:22:31,262 --> 00:22:34,962
I used to have a
modicum of respect for you,
Sean, but now it's all gone.
441
00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:40,010
Come on, it's not like I
had sex with a serial killer.
442
00:22:40,054 --> 00:22:43,013
A serial killer can
probably write better code.
443
00:22:43,710 --> 00:22:46,887
AOL was maligned.
We didn't take it seriously.
444
00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:50,281
It was based on this
platform that wasn't
the World Wide Web.
445
00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:51,761
You've got mail.
446
00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:54,155
It was, it was a joke
I think to a lot of us.
447
00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:56,679
AOL. Gross.
448
00:22:57,288 --> 00:22:59,552
Booyah.
449
00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:02,642
AOL was successful
during that time because it
made the Internet accessible.
450
00:23:03,251 --> 00:23:08,082
The Internet was very
daunting and the AOL
made it easy to log on
451
00:23:08,125 --> 00:23:10,476
and to connect with other users.
452
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:13,130
Casually,
among friends, yeah, you
could easily talk smack.
453
00:23:13,174 --> 00:23:18,092
AOL had been a company
that had been seen as sort of
less savvy and less of a tech
454
00:23:18,135 --> 00:23:23,184
company and the fact that
they had continued to stay
relevant over all the years,
455
00:23:23,227 --> 00:23:24,751
was amazing to me.
456
00:23:34,325 --> 00:23:36,502
I get it.
457
00:23:36,545 --> 00:23:38,982
Looks like somebody ate a
ate a tacky-ass souvenir shop
and then threw it all up,
458
00:23:39,505 --> 00:23:44,553
but this is Buck's
of Woodside, California, a
place where founders and VCs
459
00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:49,428
go to mate, a place where
multi-billion-dollar deals
are just called "Tuesday."
460
00:23:50,211 --> 00:23:51,299
Hey hey!
461
00:23:51,342 --> 00:23:52,474
I know these guys.
462
00:23:52,518 --> 00:23:54,563
Marc Andreessen,
what's happening, baby?
463
00:23:54,607 --> 00:23:56,173
He don't like to be touched.
464
00:23:56,217 --> 00:23:58,306
But uh, I swear, he's
a friend of mine.
465
00:23:58,349 --> 00:24:00,264
Hey, man, I'm gonna call you!
466
00:24:00,308 --> 00:24:01,701
There's these
stories at Silicon Valley
467
00:24:01,744 --> 00:24:03,703
where people would go to
Bucks for lunch or breakfast
468
00:24:03,746 --> 00:24:05,487
and they would sketch
things out on a napkin
469
00:24:05,531 --> 00:24:07,010
and people would invest in them.
470
00:24:07,054 --> 00:24:09,317
At AOL we didn't
believe we could do it alone.
471
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:13,364
We wanted to create a tapestry
of alliances and together
do something that we couldn't,
472
00:24:13,408 --> 00:24:15,366
none of us could
do separately.
473
00:24:15,976 --> 00:24:18,718
The way I see
it, it's Roosevelt and Stalin
474
00:24:18,761 --> 00:24:21,242
coming together against Hitler.
475
00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:23,505
Which one
of us is Stalin?
476
00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:27,117
Well I've been
known to enjoy a vodka or two,
I'll take the hit on that.
477
00:24:27,161 --> 00:24:31,513
So our teams will get
down to brass tacks on
licensing fees, what not.
478
00:24:31,557 --> 00:24:34,603
I think we should be
able to resolve this
all fairly quickly.
479
00:24:34,951 --> 00:24:37,780
Here's
the thing: we don't want
to just license Netscape.
480
00:24:39,303 --> 00:24:43,438
Alright.
What did you have in mind?
481
00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:47,834
If we combine
our strengths, we can build
a firewall against Microsoft.
482
00:24:49,052 --> 00:24:51,228
The AOL browser's not
blowing any skirts up.
483
00:24:51,272 --> 00:24:52,708
We know that.
484
00:24:52,752 --> 00:24:55,189
Navigator, on the other hand,
your tech is incredible.
485
00:24:55,232 --> 00:24:56,538
But from a content standpoint.
486
00:24:56,582 --> 00:24:57,844
We're not a
content company.
487
00:24:57,887 --> 00:24:59,672
Which
is my point. We are.
488
00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:02,152
You have all this traffic
coming through your website.
489
00:25:02,196 --> 00:25:03,676
And what do you got on there?
490
00:25:03,719 --> 00:25:05,242
Some press releases?
491
00:25:05,286 --> 00:25:08,202
Links to articles
in Infoworld?
492
00:25:08,245 --> 00:25:11,640
AOL would take over
programming and ad
sales for your site.
493
00:25:11,684 --> 00:25:13,424
Wow.
494
00:25:13,468 --> 00:25:15,470
And
we'd also want a seat
on the Netscape board.
495
00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:18,038
How about we give
you a back rub and a big
wet kiss every morning too?
496
00:25:18,081 --> 00:25:21,302
If that's gonna be
a condition, I'm gonna have to
check in with my wife first.
497
00:25:22,477 --> 00:25:26,742
What my colleague
here is trying to say is
that's an awful big ask.
498
00:25:27,221 --> 00:25:30,659
Especially in light
of the fact we have 90%
of the browser market,
499
00:25:30,703 --> 00:25:32,400
which is the market.
500
00:25:32,443 --> 00:25:34,271
You have 90% now.
501
00:25:34,315 --> 00:25:36,230
You've also got Microsoft
breathing down your neck.
502
00:25:36,273 --> 00:25:39,102
We'd be driving our six
million users to Netscape.
503
00:25:39,146 --> 00:25:40,887
Not to mention the ancillary
benefits of being linked with
504
00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:42,932
the best known brand
in cyberspace.
505
00:25:42,976 --> 00:25:45,456
AOL's the best known
papyrus company in the
era of the printing press.
506
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,284
And
Netscape is Gutenberg?
507
00:25:47,328 --> 00:25:52,159
Look, AOL is a
helluva brand, no question.
508
00:25:52,594 --> 00:25:57,077
But so is Netscape, and
frankly we're a lot hotter.
509
00:25:57,860 --> 00:25:59,645
And your users
are leaving in droves.
510
00:25:59,688 --> 00:26:01,560
Is that telling you anything?
511
00:26:01,603 --> 00:26:03,910
Because here's what
it's telling me.
512
00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:07,174
It's telling me people don't
want to pay $3.95 an hour for
your content when Netscape is
513
00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:10,220
giving them a gateway to
infinite content for free.
514
00:26:10,264 --> 00:26:12,788
It doesn't take a futurist to
see which way this is headed.
515
00:26:13,659 --> 00:26:15,530
People have
been predicting AOL's demise
516
00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:18,402
since before Netscape
was in diapers.
517
00:26:18,446 --> 00:26:21,405
We weren't big
enough to compete with
Prodigy and CompuServe.
518
00:26:21,449 --> 00:26:24,844
We were too lightweight
to make a splash
in the tech world.
519
00:26:24,887 --> 00:26:27,716
Microsoft was going
to kill us with MSN.
520
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,980
Yet here we are.
521
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,160
We negotiated a straight
licensing deal with AOL.
522
00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:40,990
We thought
"My God, here's a big
behemoth online service
523
00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:42,644
that's gonna use our browser."
524
00:26:42,688 --> 00:26:45,604
Our stock went
up 16% the day we announced.
525
00:26:45,647 --> 00:26:48,302
No, I understand.
526
00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:50,565
No, I appreciate you callin'.
527
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:53,046
Okay, bye now.
528
00:26:53,786 --> 00:26:56,266
.
529
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:59,835
The next morning, they
announced that they had done
a much tighter deal with
530
00:26:59,879 --> 00:27:02,011
Microsoft than
they did with us.
531
00:27:02,055 --> 00:27:03,883
Microsoft
was in at AOL.
532
00:27:03,926 --> 00:27:07,451
And their browser won
the default position and
that's what you wanted.
533
00:27:07,756 --> 00:27:11,325
As part of that, they
agreed to bundle AOL into
the Windows operating system.
534
00:27:11,368 --> 00:27:15,111
It didn't
negate our deal, but
it might as well have.
535
00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:19,159
They were
locking us out, Microsoft
was actively making deals,
536
00:27:19,202 --> 00:27:23,859
doing things that
would make it hard for
us to sell our browser.
537
00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:26,340
Hey, you
wanna hear something?
538
00:27:29,604 --> 00:27:32,302
Microsoft sandbagged
us, again!
539
00:27:32,346 --> 00:27:33,695
It's so shady.
540
00:27:33,739 --> 00:27:36,437
It's worse than
shady, it's sleazy.
541
00:27:37,046 --> 00:27:39,440
And AOL, with their
song and dance,
542
00:27:39,483 --> 00:27:41,877
"We hate Microsoft.
Microsoft is the worst."
543
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,752
What?
544
00:27:46,795 --> 00:27:48,362
Nothing.
545
00:27:48,405 --> 00:27:49,972
You're always so gentlemanly.
546
00:27:50,016 --> 00:27:52,366
I don't think I've ever
seen you so worked up.
547
00:27:53,454 --> 00:27:54,760
I get
worked up sometimes.
548
00:27:54,803 --> 00:27:56,239
No, I like it.
549
00:27:56,283 --> 00:27:58,459
Jim Barksdale used
the word sleazy.
550
00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:05,509
Sleazy
sonsa'bitches.
551
00:28:05,553 --> 00:28:07,511
That really pissed me off.
552
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:12,255
When we announced our
partnership with Microsoft,
there were people at Netscape
553
00:28:12,299 --> 00:28:13,430
that were annoyed.
554
00:28:13,474 --> 00:28:15,389
I did talk to Jim Barksdale.
555
00:28:15,432 --> 00:28:18,566
But there were some,
initially, some frustrations,
some hard feelings.
556
00:28:19,523 --> 00:28:21,700
God, it was infuriating.
557
00:28:21,743 --> 00:28:24,137
I mean everybody was so angry.
558
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:27,227
It didn't matter whose
product was better.
559
00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:30,012
Um, that was the product
that was getting installed
560
00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:32,449
and we had no way of
fighting against that.
561
00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:35,409
That's back
when we were both fighting
hard for market share.
562
00:28:35,888 --> 00:28:39,021
Netscape did start
losing market share, so I'm
sure it was a tipping point
563
00:28:39,065 --> 00:28:41,284
in terms of the browser wars.
564
00:28:41,328 --> 00:28:45,114
And by then it
was getting into, do you win
against Microsoft or not?
565
00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:49,553
And they did business
deals with their throw
weight and resource
566
00:28:49,597 --> 00:28:51,381
that we couldn't even get near.
567
00:28:51,817 --> 00:28:54,515
We were a browser company,
we were the browser company
568
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:57,518
and we were losing
the browser war.
569
00:29:01,609 --> 00:29:04,525
Michael Egan
told us, "I wanna do
business with you guys."
570
00:29:04,568 --> 00:29:06,745
"And I'm ready to
invest $5 million."
571
00:29:06,788 --> 00:29:08,703
This is the real deal.
572
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,358
We're gonna go from almost
running out of money
to the Big Leagues now.
573
00:29:11,967 --> 00:29:14,753
What happens if you
expand the features included
in the free service,
574
00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:17,886
while lowering the
price point for the gold
and silver memberships?
575
00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:22,761
That's in there,
page five, I believe.
576
00:29:25,589 --> 00:29:29,811
Mike is someone who, on
his companies had made big
bets to make big money.
577
00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:33,728
Todd and I knew
this was our one shot.
578
00:29:36,862 --> 00:29:39,342
Yup.
579
00:29:41,388 --> 00:29:44,130
I think our
valuation is too low.
580
00:29:44,173 --> 00:29:46,828
Like way too low.
581
00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:50,658
We are not a $10
million company.
582
00:29:50,701 --> 00:29:52,355
We're just not.
583
00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:53,922
If you consider
what Yahoo's doing.
584
00:29:53,966 --> 00:29:55,663
No offense,
TheGlobe is not Yahoo.
585
00:29:55,706 --> 00:29:57,752
Two years ago,
Yahoo wasn't Yahoo.
586
00:29:57,796 --> 00:29:59,972
Now they're a
billion-dollar company.
587
00:30:00,015 --> 00:30:02,017
Look, we're onto something
here, guys, I can feel it.
588
00:30:02,061 --> 00:30:03,932
Todd feels it.
589
00:30:03,976 --> 00:30:07,675
Mike, Ed, I think
you guys feel it.
590
00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:11,853
Yahoo connected people
to the Internet.
591
00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:14,334
We're connecting
people to each other.
592
00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:16,727
It's kinda powerful.
593
00:30:16,771 --> 00:30:19,034
Look, we're not asking
you to value you us
at a billion dollars.
594
00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:22,516
We're not worth a
billion dollars, not yet.
595
00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:28,435
Mike, we believe
a $40 million
valuation is fair.
596
00:30:42,057 --> 00:30:44,799
Can you boys
give us the room?
597
00:30:46,496 --> 00:30:49,543
Yeah, yeah.
598
00:30:52,328 --> 00:30:55,288
This was either gonna be the
greatest thing ever that
brings us all the success
599
00:30:55,331 --> 00:30:59,292
we've dreamed of, or
he's gonna come back and
tell us, thanks boys,
600
00:30:59,335 --> 00:31:02,338
you're crazy and we're
not gonna invest at all.
601
00:31:03,513 --> 00:31:06,125
You may have just
blown the entire thing.
602
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,476
What did I just do?
603
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:12,131
Inches from the goal
line, you told the man that
we need to keep our company
604
00:31:12,174 --> 00:31:15,830
afloat he lowballed us
by a factor of four.
605
00:31:16,439 --> 00:31:18,180
Then what did he do?
606
00:31:18,224 --> 00:31:20,139
He told us to leave
our own conference room.
607
00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:21,880
And we did.
608
00:31:21,923 --> 00:31:23,664
You can hit me if you want.
609
00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:28,843
Jesus! I didn't think
you'd actually do it.
610
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:30,584
Yeah, well.
611
00:31:30,627 --> 00:31:33,848
I want to say it was
around $40 million.
612
00:31:35,328 --> 00:31:37,634
We bought 51%
for 20 million.
613
00:31:37,678 --> 00:31:40,376
Which at the
time was the single
biggest investment
614
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,857
in Internet history
by an individual.
615
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:45,991
Gentlemen.
616
00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,036
Boys.
617
00:31:48,471 --> 00:31:51,387
.
618
00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:54,651
Okay we are definitely
celebrating.
619
00:31:54,695 --> 00:31:56,871
If your stomach
can handle it, there's
supposed to be a great
620
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:58,873
new Indian place in the Village.
621
00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,006
Mr. Krizelman,
would you please leave
Todd's body for a second?
622
00:32:01,049 --> 00:32:02,964
I would like to
speak to your son.
623
00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:05,053
First off, my dad
would never eat Indian, so.
624
00:32:05,097 --> 00:32:08,013
We just quadrupled
the valuation of our company
and got $20 million.
625
00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:10,493
So here's how
it's going to go.
626
00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:14,628
We're going to Cali, we're
gonna drink and we're gonna
dance and you're going to have
627
00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:15,977
the time of your life.
628
00:32:16,021 --> 00:32:18,197
Alright, alright.
629
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,068
We now had a new
partner and it was no longer
gonna be the Todd and Steph
630
00:32:20,112 --> 00:32:22,984
show, it was gonna be the Todd
and Steph and Mike Egan show.
631
00:32:42,917 --> 00:32:47,139
Patty Beron.
How dope is she?
632
00:32:47,182 --> 00:32:49,315
Mm-mm-mm.
633
00:32:49,358 --> 00:32:52,187
So, she starts this message
board, but then it turns
into this whole other thing.
634
00:32:52,666 --> 00:32:55,277
What's the current analog,
I don't know, um...
635
00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:57,714
Jezebel. Thrillist, maybe.
636
00:32:57,758 --> 00:33:01,544
I'm talking party reviews,
recommendations on where to
see the best music and art,
637
00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:03,546
where to find a good cup
of coffee in the Mission.
638
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:05,418
Places to volunteer and
psychological advice.
639
00:33:05,461 --> 00:33:07,159
Posts about politics
and relationships.
640
00:33:07,202 --> 00:33:09,030
Who else was doing
that at the time?
641
00:33:09,074 --> 00:33:12,120
I will give you
a hint: NOBODY.
642
00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:14,775
Nobody was doing that.
643
00:33:14,818 --> 00:33:17,996
SFGirl was a blog before
anybody knew the word meant.
644
00:33:18,735 --> 00:33:22,478
Hey, did you know
SFGirl had up to 20
writers at one point?
645
00:33:23,218 --> 00:33:26,004
Don't say that you
knew that because I
know that you didn't.
646
00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:29,050
We should uh, go.
647
00:33:29,094 --> 00:33:31,879
Mm.
We should go.
648
00:33:33,489 --> 00:33:35,883
I never made
any money on SFGirl.
649
00:33:35,926 --> 00:33:39,974
It was still hard at that point
to sell people on the idea of
advertising on a website.
650
00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:43,021
Besides, how much money
do you really need when
651
00:33:43,064 --> 00:33:46,154
you're going to parties and
eating free food every night?
652
00:33:46,633 --> 00:33:48,504
Y'know?
653
00:33:50,115 --> 00:33:51,725
All that hard work
and nothing to show for it
654
00:33:51,768 --> 00:33:54,075
but a few cosmos
and some crab puffs.
655
00:33:54,728 --> 00:33:57,644
Whenever you hear stories
about a gold rush you always
hear about the people that
656
00:33:57,687 --> 00:34:00,429
made a fortune or
lost a fortune.
657
00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:06,392
But what about the
blacksmiths, hah, in the
gold-mining town, hah,
658
00:34:08,437 --> 00:34:14,791
who created a new
horseshoe, look, SFGirl
was a damn cool horseshoe.
659
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:18,360
Whew!
660
00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:25,802
Oh, I know these two!
661
00:34:25,846 --> 00:34:29,154
Whassssssup?
662
00:34:29,415 --> 00:34:31,199
Yeah!
663
00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:33,158
Your friend
seems awesome.
664
00:34:33,201 --> 00:34:34,550
I don't
know who that is.
665
00:34:34,594 --> 00:34:36,683
I've never seen that
guy in my entire life.
666
00:34:37,988 --> 00:34:40,208
We're actually
not based here.
667
00:34:40,252 --> 00:34:43,211
Todd and I started a little
company based out of New York.
668
00:34:43,255 --> 00:34:45,213
Hmm.
669
00:34:45,257 --> 00:34:46,954
It's like an
online community, connecting
people sort of thing.
670
00:34:46,997 --> 00:34:49,304
It's called TheGlobe.com.
671
00:34:51,698 --> 00:34:54,831
TheGlobe.com
that just got a $20
million in investments?
672
00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:56,529
How did
you know about that?
673
00:34:56,572 --> 00:34:59,358
There was a
pretty prominent article
in the New York Times.
674
00:34:59,401 --> 00:35:02,100
We were in the Times?
I didn't know that.
675
00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:04,145
Todd, did you know that?
676
00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:05,625
Yeah, I'm
not part of this.
677
00:35:05,668 --> 00:35:07,888
That's crazy.
678
00:35:07,931 --> 00:35:09,455
Well, it's certainly
super cool that you flew all
the way from New York to do
679
00:35:09,498 --> 00:35:12,153
a Silicon Valley victory lap.
680
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:19,160
We didn't,
no, okay, yeah, that's
exactly what we're doing.
681
00:35:20,770 --> 00:35:23,121
Steph, check it out.
682
00:35:24,296 --> 00:35:27,429
Wow.
Mike's in the VIP.
683
00:35:27,473 --> 00:35:29,779
Who are those
guys with him?
684
00:35:29,823 --> 00:35:32,347
You should tell your
dad to pick you up out front,
because this is embarrassing.
685
00:35:32,391 --> 00:35:35,133
He's not my dad.
686
00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:37,309
Enjoy your victory lap.
687
00:35:37,352 --> 00:35:38,701
I think she's
really into you.
688
00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:40,660
C'mon, let's go.
689
00:35:40,703 --> 00:35:44,054
Mike had a very clear
view that the businesses
that we were in that
690
00:35:44,098 --> 00:35:46,448
weren't TheGlobe that were
mostly travel-related,
691
00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:50,322
that if he could combine
those assets into TheGlobe,
692
00:35:51,018 --> 00:35:53,586
we could sell travel,
we could sell hotels,
693
00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:55,979
that it would be very valuable.
694
00:35:56,023 --> 00:36:00,201
Once Mike invested in
TheGlobe he would introduce us
to a number of other companies
695
00:36:00,245 --> 00:36:03,552
that he was an investor
in and IntelliTravel
was one which was
696
00:36:03,596 --> 00:36:06,381
a travel network of
70,000 travel agents.
697
00:36:06,425 --> 00:36:09,254
So how's it work?
698
00:36:09,297 --> 00:36:11,604
People go online and
they can book a flight?
699
00:36:11,647 --> 00:36:13,258
-Not online.
700
00:36:13,301 --> 00:36:14,955
-The site's online.
701
00:36:14,998 --> 00:36:16,826
-It advertises travel deals.
702
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:18,393
-Then you call
the travel agents.
703
00:36:18,437 --> 00:36:20,830
-Or email them.
Some of them have email.
704
00:36:20,874 --> 00:36:23,093
Guys, here's the idea.
705
00:36:23,137 --> 00:36:25,922
The IntelliTravel agents could
sell subscriptions to TheGlobe
706
00:36:25,966 --> 00:36:28,534
as part of their
travel packages.
707
00:36:30,362 --> 00:36:32,668
-It's a Rolex.
708
00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:36,629
Takes a lickin'
and keeps on tickin'.
709
00:36:36,672 --> 00:36:39,327
-That's Timex.
710
00:36:42,112 --> 00:36:44,724
-Tequila shots, you
hombres want Tequila?
711
00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:48,336
Sure, I could
use a drink. Todd?
712
00:36:48,902 --> 00:36:51,078
Definitely.
713
00:36:51,121 --> 00:36:55,125
Mike Egan was still
trying to find a way to take
his traditional businesses
714
00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:59,173
that are getting disrupted
by the Internet and again
turn them into dot-coms,
715
00:37:00,087 --> 00:37:03,264
have them plug into
TheGlobe, somehow.
716
00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:07,486
Imagine 70,000
people out there
selling TheGlobe.com.
717
00:37:07,529 --> 00:37:09,618
70,000 travel agents.
718
00:37:09,662 --> 00:37:11,359
Travel
agents are people.
719
00:37:11,403 --> 00:37:13,231
I don't
mean any disrespect.
720
00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:16,321
It's just mixing in
commerce and the travel
industry at this point,
721
00:37:16,364 --> 00:37:18,236
it's just not what
we've been building.
722
00:37:18,279 --> 00:37:20,368
Mike, people
come to our site, they
share their interests,
723
00:37:20,412 --> 00:37:22,240
they connect with people,
that's what we do.
724
00:37:22,283 --> 00:37:23,328
Yes.
725
00:37:23,371 --> 00:37:24,764
That's what we built.
726
00:37:24,807 --> 00:37:27,288
Making a start-up
sustainable is not easy.
727
00:37:27,332 --> 00:37:32,772
So it's obviously very
important for the founder to
keep his or her eye on the
728
00:37:32,815 --> 00:37:39,169
ball, on the big vision at
all times but at the same time
to surround themselves with
729
00:37:39,213 --> 00:37:44,871
leaders, even if it is
one other leader who can
tap into the Zeitgeist,
730
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,396
who can see where the world
is going, is going to be key
731
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,269
to their long-term
success of the product.
732
00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:57,013
And Mike came
along and he seemed to
be dazzled by my vision
733
00:37:57,057 --> 00:38:02,105
and my ability to communicate
and it in turn dazzled me,
734
00:38:02,149 --> 00:38:05,413
so it was really hard for
me to see that this guy,
735
00:38:05,457 --> 00:38:08,286
Mike Egan, who believed
in me so much also had issues,
736
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:12,681
and I could see it was
also potentially going to
become a problem for me,
737
00:38:12,725 --> 00:38:16,294
if I didn't perform or
if I didn't agree with him.
738
00:38:16,598 --> 00:38:20,341
And it's not, you know, middle
aged ladies with glasses
around their necks asking
739
00:38:20,385 --> 00:38:24,127
people, do you want
a side of TheGlobe.com
with your Alaska cruise?
740
00:38:24,171 --> 00:38:26,347
Whether it's
with IntelliTravel or
some other opportunity,
741
00:38:26,391 --> 00:38:28,436
we gotta to find a path
toward profitability.
742
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,785
And we can.
743
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:32,397
We're on that path.
It's a matter of...
744
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,400
Just sit down with
them, and see if there's
any room for cooperation.
745
00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:38,054
There's no obligation.
746
00:38:39,491 --> 00:38:42,232
Sure.
Okay.
747
00:38:42,276 --> 00:38:43,364
You boys
have fun tonight.
748
00:38:43,408 --> 00:38:46,193
We'll talk in the morning.
749
00:38:50,806 --> 00:38:56,421
"Truly I tell
you, and everyone that has
forsaken houses, or brethren,
750
00:38:56,464 --> 00:39:00,816
or sisters or father or
mother or wife or children
751
00:39:00,860 --> 00:39:05,517
or lands for my namesake
shall receive a hundredfold
752
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,739
and shall inherit
everlasting life."
Matthew 10, verse 29.
753
00:39:11,131 --> 00:39:16,049
Now, who's ready
to become rich beyond
their wildest dreams?!
754
00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:19,618
.
755
00:39:21,271 --> 00:39:25,101
It was obvious
to anybody who paid the
least bit attention that
756
00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:29,018
bandwidth was going to
improve, compression
was going to improve,
757
00:39:29,062 --> 00:39:32,718
and more and more video
was coming to the net.
758
00:39:32,979 --> 00:39:35,982
How many people
understand codecs and
encoding and streaming?
759
00:39:36,939 --> 00:39:39,768
It's pretty simple
to say, well, we're doing this
and we're doing this and we're
760
00:39:39,812 --> 00:39:44,425
doing this and the
technology portion of it's
difficult enough for even
761
00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:47,210
skilled people to grasp.
762
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,692
And that's exactly why
Pixelon picked: streaming.
763
00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:54,783
Alright.
Come on up, don't be scared.
764
00:39:54,827 --> 00:39:57,786
I don't want you digging
in your wallets without
sampling the merchandise.
765
00:39:58,439 --> 00:40:04,227
So Advanced
Equities is a fledgling
investment bank in Chicago.
766
00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:06,839
Now, a lot of
people prefer Captain Kirk.
767
00:40:06,882 --> 00:40:09,972
But this Captain
Pee-card, he's a pistol.
768
00:40:10,538 --> 00:40:15,674
They're looking at the
success stories and the IPOs
of all of these other dot-coms
769
00:40:15,717 --> 00:40:20,156
and they're thinking hey, if
we can invest and get in on
the ground floor of Pixelon,
770
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,681
this is the homerun
we really need.
771
00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:27,642
Wow, you
said it'd load fast, but
that was really fast.
772
00:40:28,121 --> 00:40:29,470
Well,
what do you know?
773
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:31,777
Turns out I'm not a liar.
774
00:40:32,952 --> 00:40:37,347
The folks at Advanced
Equities didn't have the
capacity to evaluate what the
775
00:40:37,391 --> 00:40:41,743
software was and uh,
as far as I know,
776
00:40:41,787 --> 00:40:47,619
that was the uh deepest
they dove into whether
777
00:40:47,662 --> 00:40:51,666
or not the technology
actually had any
substance underneath it.
778
00:40:52,058 --> 00:40:53,929
That's amazing.
779
00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:00,632
Any investor, no
matter what the product is,
no matter what the service,
780
00:41:00,675 --> 00:41:03,722
know what the hell it is
before you write a check.
781
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:09,554
One of the things that
investors always wanna do is
they tend to wanna do massive
782
00:41:09,597 --> 00:41:14,907
amount of what's known as due
diligence, let's figure out
everything we can about these
783
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:17,257
people that we're
investing in.
784
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:19,781
So, I'm sitting in
my car, and it comes to me,
785
00:41:19,825 --> 00:41:22,610
like the angel
Gabriel appearing
before the Virgin Mary.
786
00:41:22,654 --> 00:41:26,048
The biggest acts in all of
music, beamed into your home.
787
00:41:26,092 --> 00:41:27,702
Live.
788
00:41:27,746 --> 00:41:28,790
You
can stop selling.
789
00:41:28,834 --> 00:41:30,618
We're in.
We'll be in touch.
790
00:41:30,662 --> 00:41:32,751
Alright.
Look forward to it.
791
00:41:32,794 --> 00:41:36,363
It's not clear
that they ever did any kind
of background check on him,
792
00:41:36,406 --> 00:41:39,627
find out if he has
a criminal record, does he
have lawsuits against him.
793
00:41:39,671 --> 00:41:42,891
They don't know really
anything about his background.
794
00:41:42,935 --> 00:41:46,982
Somebody who doesn't have a
social security card, doesn't
have a driver's license,
795
00:41:47,026 --> 00:41:50,203
has been paid cash out
of an expense account.
796
00:42:10,005 --> 00:42:12,878
I pled guilty to
over 50 fraud-related charges
797
00:42:12,921 --> 00:42:15,750
and was sentenced to
36 years in prison.
798
00:42:19,841 --> 00:42:23,453
Advanced Equities was
in such a hurry to close the
deal that they failed to zero
799
00:42:23,497 --> 00:42:27,849
in on a couple of things
that should have been, you
know red flags for anybody.
800
00:42:28,502 --> 00:42:33,899
And one would be just
the fact that this founder,
Michael Fenne, didn't exist,
801
00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:35,944
there was no record
of him anywhere.
802
00:42:35,988 --> 00:42:38,991
$2,000 suits.
You all must be the lawyers.
803
00:42:40,993 --> 00:42:42,734
Lee? How are you?
804
00:42:42,777 --> 00:42:45,824
Come on in, guys.
Sit wherever you'd like.
805
00:42:45,867 --> 00:42:48,914
Hi, how are you.
Good to see ya.
806
00:42:54,833 --> 00:42:58,663
They agreed to a $28
million private placement.
807
00:42:59,011 --> 00:43:02,580
Accomplishing this was much
easier than I ever dreamed.
808
00:43:02,623 --> 00:43:04,320
Moving onto fees.
809
00:43:04,364 --> 00:43:06,975
In the new life I
have here, the one I wanted to
810
00:43:07,019 --> 00:43:09,891
so desperately
share with you.
811
00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:12,938
Advanced Equities
will receive 12% commission.
812
00:43:12,981 --> 00:43:15,027
Everyone loves me.
813
00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:17,029
Advanced Equities
will have warrants to purchase
814
00:43:17,072 --> 00:43:19,292
a million shares
of Pixelon stock.
815
00:43:19,335 --> 00:43:22,948
In my new business,
everyone thinks I'm a genius.
816
00:43:26,038 --> 00:43:29,519
But it
turns out the lack of due
diligence goes both ways.
817
00:43:34,089 --> 00:43:36,135
So I'm
sittin' in my car.
818
00:43:37,179 --> 00:43:38,659
We'll be in touch.
819
00:43:38,703 --> 00:43:41,096
Alright.
Look forward to it.
820
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:42,837
He's a character.
821
00:43:42,881 --> 00:43:44,404
No kidding.
822
00:43:44,447 --> 00:43:46,058
You think he has any idea
the goldmine he's sitting on?
823
00:43:46,101 --> 00:43:47,886
No sir, I do not.
824
00:43:50,149 --> 00:43:53,108
Advanced Equities
will receive a 12% commission.
825
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:56,677
Why did Pixelon do a
deal with Advanced Equities,
where they had to pay 12%
826
00:43:56,721 --> 00:43:58,723
commission and give
a million warrants?
827
00:43:58,766 --> 00:44:00,289
Because they had to.
828
00:44:00,333 --> 00:44:02,509
Advanced Equities
will have warrants to purchase
829
00:44:02,552 --> 00:44:05,033
a million shares
of Pixelon stock.
830
00:44:05,077 --> 00:44:09,168
Advanced Equities
is a brand new investment
bank that's out there,
831
00:44:09,211 --> 00:44:13,215
they don't even
have the licenses that
arguably are required,
832
00:44:13,259 --> 00:44:17,567
or at least are customary,
for somebody that's gonna
do a private placement.
833
00:44:18,220 --> 00:44:23,008
In retrospect it's clear
that Pixelon was playing
Advanced Equities and
834
00:44:23,051 --> 00:44:26,664
Advanced Equities
was playing Pixelon.
835
00:44:26,707 --> 00:44:30,972
Why did Advance
Equities give Pixelon
10 million-plus dollars?
836
00:44:31,016 --> 00:44:33,845
Because they wanted
to do a pump and dump.
837
00:44:33,888 --> 00:44:38,110
They wanted to take Pixelon
public and pump it and dump it
on unsuspecting shareholders
838
00:44:38,153 --> 00:44:41,287
and buyers and make
a lot more money.
839
00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:45,726
Out of the
fiery furnace, God has
given me a new life.
840
00:44:46,335 --> 00:44:49,338
A life I truly deserve.
841
00:44:49,382 --> 00:44:54,256
I still hurt so very much,
but I am holding onto God's
promise of a real love,
842
00:44:56,345 --> 00:45:02,003
and that is why the tears
flow less and less each
day, because God loves me.
843
00:45:15,974 --> 00:45:18,237
I'm not changing
my tune on AOL, Marc.
844
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,109
It's just that the world looks
a hell of a lot different
than it did a few months back.
845
00:45:21,501 --> 00:45:24,504
AOL's big deal with
Microsoft didn't miraculously
lift their stock price out of
846
00:45:24,547 --> 00:45:27,246
the toilet, and now they're
crawling back to us.
847
00:45:27,289 --> 00:45:29,074
Let them find
another lifeline.
848
00:45:29,117 --> 00:45:30,858
Where's our lifeline?
849
00:45:30,902 --> 00:45:32,904
We're going to
destroy Microsoft in
the enterprise space.
850
00:45:32,947 --> 00:45:36,255
Yeah, we are,
absolutely, but we can't just
roll over and show 'em our
851
00:45:36,298 --> 00:45:38,039
privates in the browser war.
852
00:45:38,083 --> 00:45:40,215
We're still very
comfortably ahead.
853
00:45:40,259 --> 00:45:42,435
We'd be a hell of
a lot more comfortable with
a little boost from AOL.
854
00:45:42,478 --> 00:45:43,958
They're still AOL.
855
00:45:44,002 --> 00:45:45,830
And their way of
life is still dying.
856
00:45:45,873 --> 00:45:47,919
We don't need them.
857
00:45:47,962 --> 00:45:50,182
We don't.
858
00:45:51,531 --> 00:45:54,795
Programs can run
successfully, repeatedly,
without incident.
859
00:45:55,361 --> 00:45:57,189
Alright.
860
00:45:57,232 --> 00:45:59,017
So you
think you're good.
861
00:45:59,060 --> 00:46:03,630
But at some point a
fatal error will cause
your program to crash.
862
00:46:32,354 --> 00:46:33,747
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