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There you go, Terry.
I think we were in the cell together about four days
and we spoke a lot in the cell.
He ran down the whole scenario of how his wife died.
He was saying if things were handled on the street correctly
and certain witnesses didn't show in court,
that there would be ample amounts of money
for me and him to live comfortably ever after.
Basically, what he's saying here is,
"Listen, we've got to eliminate these witnesses."
That was to fucking kill them so they didn't come to court.
It started off with the, uh, parents of his wife.
Then you say double cousin Virginia Lyons-Friesen.
Virginia Lyons is the one that heard the conversation
about being drowned in the lake.
He's telling me, "I gotta kill all these people
in order to beat this beef."
The whole meaning of this is to fucking murder,
and blow this shit up, and burn it up.
I don't like people that kill their wives.
Due to the fact that I've had a loss in my family
that's, you know, it's left a dark cloud over all of us.
I knew there was rings and stuff.
Yes.
He told me where the fucking dynamite was, where to go, who to kill.
[informant] Big Man, what's up?
[informant] Dude, hey listen, man, I've been fucking sitting in hotels
and just waiting.
[informant] What do you need right now, Pete? What do you need?
[informant] I've been everywhere, man, and I've done everything.
I was on it, like, right now.
Looking at stuff diligently. Diligently looking at stuff.
It got worse as it went along.
It got more serious.
And when he mentioned right at the end,
blowing up Sergeant Terry Jacklin.
Well, I heard it, but I don't believe it.
I've got nothing more to say.
I just want to go back to my cell.
[Ngahiwi] When Peter came into our midst,
we had embraced him as part of our community.
You're six foot four, you're six foot five,
now you're six foot six.
And so we said to Peter jokingly, "You are now Rongokako."
[informant] The retainer was to, uh, take care of witnesses.
[informant] Yes.
[informant] Uh, Mr. Beckett gave it to me.
[informant] Um, it was just prior to my release.
[informant] Well, it was detailed, it laid out where people were.
Uh, the Letts family, the dynamite, the diamonds.
A very detailed map.
[informant] In Mr. Beckett's.
Haka means Ha, is breath.
Ka, is burning.
So Haka is a burning breath.
So if he performed that, it was a pick-me-up, like...
"Picking myself up off the ground."
I'm not upset that he did do it,
because why would we share it with him in the first place?
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