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This is Iike when we drove to...
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- What's the name.
- Right.
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I don't remember
that northern part very much .
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Well , that was because
you were asleep.
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- And it was dark.
- Okay.
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But I do remember...
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We had that bloke
with the broken arm in the back.
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- Long John .
- Yeah, didn't he have a broken arm?
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Maybe he did .
Don't know whether it was broken ,
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I think it was bound up.
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He was much older than us,
wasn't he?
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I remember him
as being much older than us.
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I think he was older,
and he was extremely disdainful .
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I think he had a certain respect for you ,
but he was very disdainful of me.
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I think he thought I was...
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A wanker, to be honest.
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I can't even remember
how we met him.
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At Seamus's.
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Aye, but how did he get there?
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Someone had to take him .
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There wasn't a notice on the door.
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- No, I don't know. . .
- "Come in and have tea
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and toast at 2 in the morning ,
and Iisten to Billie Holiday."
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- Yeah, free drinks.
- Free drinks and looked after by an old ...
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- Yeah--
- Lady, as we perceived her.
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Exactly.
Boiled potatoes and butter.
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Yes.
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- I've no idea.
- But then we kind of abandoned him .
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- I n Cannes?
- No, I don't think we did .
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I think he abandoned us.
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I think once we hit
the south of France...
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- He thought he could do better.
- "Yeah , fuck these wankers.
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I'm out of here."
Because he was really...
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- Remember how angry he was?
- Yes.
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I had a dream Iast night that...
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I had a twin sister, and we Iived in Bali .
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And ...
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Both of us were in Iove with one solider,
and I ended up with him.
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I was in Iove with him ,
and we were in the bedroom,
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and then ,
another soldier came in to attack us.
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And we knew we were gonna die,
and so...
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He wanted to carry on making Iove,
and I wanted to lie down .
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I don't remember him
being angry at us.
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I think he was just generally angry.
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Generically angry.
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Whatever happened to him?
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Well , I never saw him again .
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Well , that's not true.
I can't say that.
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I can't remember.
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The soldier came in,
and we got up.
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And I managed to go and hide.
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And climb into the cupboard .
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And as soon as I got in the cupboard ,
I knew I was safe.
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And I felt very relieved .
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Yeah .
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Someone once said ,
"A mosquito can no more be hit
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by a raindrop
than a man can be hit by a glacier."
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The tick-over rate is so fast
that for them ,
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a raindrop is sluggish .
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That is really interesting .
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I sometimes have that nightmare
that I can't find my way to the stage.
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Harry, do you ever have that?
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Not that exact one,
but I have anxiety dreams about
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either my keyboard's way too big ,
or the stand's wobbly,
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and I can't. . .
Something preventing me from ,
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you know, doing my job,
or I've totally forgotten
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what I'm supposed to be doing .
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- I do get that. It's terrible.
- Yeah, I get--
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I've spoken to Graham about that.
He gets that as well .
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- Does he?
- Yeah .
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Maybe all performers get that
or maybe all people.
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- I think all people have anxiety dreams.
- I think they do. Yeah .
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Do you remember
that Iake near Ioannina?
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- No.
- I think that was the first time we washed .
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For about a month .
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Well , I remember washing in the sea
in Saint-Tropez.
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And finding that soap
doesn't like sea water.
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No, it doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
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There is a naturaI
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inhibition between
sodium oleate and sodium chloride.
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Well , that's chemistry in A Ievel
for you .
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My second escape,
because there were two escapes in my life.
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You know, I keep saying the third one
is gonna be from Hollywood .
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But those two escapes,
one was in Hungary
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during the Second World War.
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And the second was in 1 956 when
the H ungarian Revolution happened .
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There was terrible fighting going on
in Budapest between the Russian army
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and the H ungarian Revolution .
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And after two weeks,
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I realised that there's never gonna be
any change in that country.
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And we were naively thinking
that the Americans, the British,
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everybody was gonna come
and save Hungary,
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but nobody came.
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And I said to my friends,
"I don't care what happens,
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but I'm gonna get out of this country
because if I don't,
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nothing will ever happen for me."
And I was not gonna die here Iike that.
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Then I was determined to Ieave.
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What I've been doing for the Iast
few years is touring around the world ,
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doing this show that is basically
an anti-war statement.
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And it's based upon the philosophies,
political and humanist, if you Iike,
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that I inherited from my mom and dad .
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Because that's where I was brought up.
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And a big part of my philosophy
is I'm going on and on about constantly,
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is that who we are
depends upon the accidents
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of our genetic information
and the geography of our birth .
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And when they came down,
there was a curfew,
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and you couldn't be in the street.
You were shot
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if you were in the street
before 1 0:00 in the morning .
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And there were three huge Russian tanks
in the street.
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And as we got out of the building ,
the turrets of the tank followed us
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to the street corner.
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And my friend gave his watch
to the Russian post.
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And they Iet us go.
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And then we got on a train .
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And that night,
we got out before midnight into Austria.
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And ...
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And we were free.
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I've recently been reading
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research that has Ied people to suppose
that newborn babies are benevolent.
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- Do you think that's true?
- Definitely.
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So, you would agree with me
that they have to be taught to be...
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...evil?
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Well , they're surrounded by shit,
and they pick it up.
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- But isn't that the same thing?
- Well , okay, all right. We'Il say that.
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Well , I find that hugely encouraging
because I'm desperate to believe...
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...that human beings are intrinsically good ,
and that if they weren't taught
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to be horrible to each other,
they wouldn't be.
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