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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,018 --> 00:00:09,288 >>> SIR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, 2 00:00:09,290 --> 00:00:10,689 DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT 3 00:00:10,691 --> 00:00:11,123 THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. 4 00:00:11,125 --> 00:00:12,057 THE TRUTH. >> I DO. 5 00:00:12,059 --> 00:00:14,893 >> I DO. >> TELL US YOUR FULL NAME. 6 00:00:14,895 --> 00:00:16,929 >> TELL US YOUR FULL NAME. >> JEFFREY EDWARD EPSTEIN. 7 00:00:16,931 --> 00:00:18,530 >> JEFFREY EDWARD EPSTEIN. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY REMORSE? 8 00:00:18,532 --> 00:00:20,299 >> DO YOU HAVE ANY REMORSE? >> IF THE FBI HAD LISTENED TO ME 9 00:00:20,301 --> 00:00:23,936 >> IF THE FBI HAD LISTENED TO ME IN 1996, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN 10 00:00:23,938 --> 00:00:25,037 IN 1996, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO MORE VICTIMS. 11 00:00:25,039 --> 00:00:28,240 NO MORE VICTIMS. >> JUST HAVE TO MASSAGE SOME OLD 12 00:00:28,242 --> 00:00:28,741 >> JUST HAVE TO MASSAGE SOME OLD DUDES. 13 00:00:28,743 --> 00:00:30,509 DUDES. >> 200 BUCKS, PROBABLY 20 14 00:00:30,511 --> 00:00:31,810 >> 200 BUCKS, PROBABLY 20 MINUTES, NOT A BIG DEAL. 15 00:00:31,812 --> 00:00:33,479 MINUTES, NOT A BIG DEAL. >> NOBODY REALLY CARED THAT 16 00:00:33,481 --> 00:00:34,446 >> NOBODY REALLY CARED THAT THERE WERE YOUNG GIRLS WALKING 17 00:00:34,448 --> 00:00:35,948 THERE WERE YOUNG GIRLS WALKING INTO THE BACK OF THIS OLD MAN'S 18 00:00:35,950 --> 00:00:38,117 INTO THE BACK OF THIS OLD MAN'S MANSION. 19 00:00:38,119 --> 00:00:39,718 MANSION. >> THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY 20 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,987 >> THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT HE COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT 21 00:00:41,989 --> 00:00:42,388 THAT HE COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT I WAS 18. 22 00:00:42,390 --> 00:00:45,891 I WAS 18. >> AND I WAS LIKE, WHOA, HE HAD 23 00:00:45,893 --> 00:00:48,794 >> AND I WAS LIKE, WHOA, HE HAD TO HAVE SEEN MY TERROR. 24 00:00:48,796 --> 00:00:52,064 TO HAVE SEEN MY TERROR. >> I'M 1,000% SURE HE KNEW I WAS 25 00:00:52,066 --> 00:00:52,431 >> I'M 1,000% SURE HE KNEW I WAS SCARED TO DEATH. 26 00:00:52,433 --> 00:00:54,633 SCARED TO DEATH. AND I THINK HE LIKED IT. 27 00:00:54,635 --> 00:00:57,703 AND I THINK HE LIKED IT. >> HE WAS DEFINITELY MOLESTING 28 00:00:57,705 --> 00:00:59,938 >> HE WAS DEFINITELY MOLESTING UNDERAGE GIRLS ON A DAILY BASIS, 29 00:00:59,940 --> 00:01:01,907 UNDERAGE GIRLS ON A DAILY BASIS, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY AND 30 00:01:01,909 --> 00:01:02,808 MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY AND EVERYBODY WAS OKAY WITH IT. 31 00:01:02,810 --> 00:01:04,843 EVERYBODY WAS OKAY WITH IT. >> ANYBODY WHO EVER ATTACKED 32 00:01:04,845 --> 00:01:06,045 >> ANYBODY WHO EVER ATTACKED JEFFREY EPSTEIN, HE ATTACKED 33 00:01:06,047 --> 00:01:06,412 JEFFREY EPSTEIN, HE ATTACKED BACK. 34 00:01:06,414 --> 00:01:08,313 BACK. >> I WAS UNDER SURVEILLANCE, AS 35 00:01:08,315 --> 00:01:10,382 >> I WAS UNDER SURVEILLANCE, AS WAS THE LEAD DETECTIVE, 24 HOURS 36 00:01:10,384 --> 00:01:10,883 WAS THE LEAD DETECTIVE, 24 HOURS A DAY. 37 00:01:10,885 --> 00:01:12,351 A DAY. >> THE GIRLS WOULD CALL MY 38 00:01:12,353 --> 00:01:13,786 >> THE GIRLS WOULD CALL MY OFFICE, SAYING, I WAS JUST 39 00:01:13,788 --> 00:01:15,554 OFFICE, SAYING, I WAS JUST FOLLOWED HOME FROM SCHOOL BY A 40 00:01:15,556 --> 00:01:16,488 FOLLOWED HOME FROM SCHOOL BY A BLACK LINCOLN NAVIGATOR. 41 00:01:16,490 --> 00:01:18,490 BLACK LINCOLN NAVIGATOR. >> THE MORE THAT THE STORY 42 00:01:18,492 --> 00:01:22,127 >> THE MORE THAT THE STORY UNFOLDED, SORT OF CRAZIER IT 43 00:01:22,129 --> 00:01:26,131 UNFOLDED, SORT OF CRAZIER IT BECAME. 44 00:01:28,001 --> 00:01:30,102 ♪ >> I'M PAINTING THESE, BEAUTIFUL 45 00:01:30,104 --> 00:01:30,369 >> I'M PAINTING THESE, BEAUTIFUL SURVIVORS. 46 00:01:30,371 --> 00:01:31,570 SURVIVORS. THESE WOMEN. 47 00:01:31,572 --> 00:01:33,639 THESE WOMEN. YOU CAN SEE NOT ONLY THEIR 48 00:01:33,641 --> 00:01:34,273 YOU CAN SEE NOT ONLY THEIR OUTWARD BEAUTY BUT THEIR INWARD 49 00:01:34,275 --> 00:01:37,309 OUTWARD BEAUTY BUT THEIR INWARD BEAUTY. 50 00:01:37,311 --> 00:01:37,943 BEAUTY. WITH EACH PERSON I'M DRAWING, I 51 00:01:37,945 --> 00:01:38,577 WITH EACH PERSON I'M DRAWING, I REALIZE THAT'S ANOTHER PERSON 52 00:01:38,579 --> 00:01:40,379 REALIZE THAT'S ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS HARMED. 53 00:01:40,381 --> 00:01:41,413 WHO WAS HARMED. AND EACH ONE OF THOSE SHOULD 54 00:01:41,415 --> 00:01:46,118 AND EACH ONE OF THOSE SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED, BECAUSE I 55 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,652 HAVE NEVER HAPPENED, BECAUSE I REPORTED IT SO MANY YEARS 56 00:01:46,654 --> 00:01:50,122 REPORTED IT SO MANY YEARS BEFORE. 57 00:01:50,124 --> 00:01:50,889 BEFORE. MY NAME IS MARIA FARMER AND I 58 00:01:50,891 --> 00:01:51,523 MY NAME IS MARIA FARMER AND I FIRST REPORTED JEFFREY EPSTEIN 59 00:01:51,525 --> 00:01:59,198 FIRST REPORTED JEFFREY EPSTEIN TO THE AUTHORITIES IN 1996. 60 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,998 TO THE AUTHORITIES IN 1996. >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE FIRST 61 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,300 >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE FIRST PERSON TO EVER COMPLAIN TO LAW 62 00:02:01,302 --> 00:02:02,167 PERSON TO EVER COMPLAIN TO LAW ENFORCEMENT ABOUT JEFFREY 63 00:02:02,169 --> 00:02:07,005 ENFORCEMENT ABOUT JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS MARIA FARMER. 64 00:02:07,007 --> 00:02:07,539 EPSTEIN WAS MARIA FARMER. SHE DID SOMETHING. 65 00:02:07,541 --> 00:02:14,346 SHE DID SOMETHING. JUST NOBODY LISTENED. 66 00:02:20,020 --> 00:02:22,187 IN 1995. SO I'M 25 YEARS OLD, I HAD JUST 67 00:02:22,189 --> 00:02:23,655 SO I'M 25 YEARS OLD, I HAD JUST GRADUATED FROM THE NEW YORK 68 00:02:23,657 --> 00:02:24,256 GRADUATED FROM THE NEW YORK ACADEMY OF ART AND ALL THE 69 00:02:24,258 --> 00:02:26,125 ACADEMY OF ART AND ALL THE STUDENTS HAVE A SHOW. 70 00:02:26,127 --> 00:02:28,060 STUDENTS HAVE A SHOW. HE WENT TO SHAKE MY HAND AND 71 00:02:28,062 --> 00:02:29,928 HE WENT TO SHAKE MY HAND AND HE SAID, "YOU'RE SO TALENTED. 72 00:02:29,930 --> 00:02:32,064 HE SAID, "YOU'RE SO TALENTED. I LOVE YOUR PAINTING. 73 00:02:32,066 --> 00:02:33,098 I LOVE YOUR PAINTING. THIS IS THE PAINTING THAT 74 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:34,099 THIS IS THE PAINTING THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN PURCHASED THE 75 00:02:38,305 --> 00:02:40,405 FIRST CONNECTION THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN OFFERED MARIA FARMER A 76 00:02:40,407 --> 00:02:40,572 EPSTEIN OFFERED MARIA FARMER A JOB. 77 00:02:40,574 --> 00:02:46,111 JOB. >> MARIA WAS INITIALLY HIRED TO 78 00:02:46,113 --> 00:02:48,714 >> MARIA WAS INITIALLY HIRED TO COLLECT ART FOR EPSTEIN. 79 00:02:48,716 --> 00:02:50,115 COLLECT ART FOR EPSTEIN. BUT THAT QUICKLY MORPHS INTO A 80 00:02:50,117 --> 00:02:51,316 BUT THAT QUICKLY MORPHS INTO A ROLE WHERE SHE'S SIGNING IN 81 00:02:51,318 --> 00:02:51,950 ROLE WHERE SHE'S SIGNING IN GUESTS IN THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF 82 00:02:51,952 --> 00:02:52,551 GUESTS IN THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF HIS TOWNHOME, WHICH IS ONE OF 83 00:02:52,553 --> 00:02:53,919 HIS TOWNHOME, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PRIVATE HOMES IN 84 00:02:53,921 --> 00:02:57,923 THE LARGEST PRIVATE HOMES IN MANHATTAN. 85 00:02:57,925 --> 00:03:00,592 MANHATTAN. >> I REALLY KIND OF ADMIRED HIM, 86 00:03:02,997 --> 00:03:06,064 ABOUT GROWING UP IN CONEY ISLAND AND HOW HE'D CREATED THIS ENTIRE 87 00:03:06,066 --> 00:03:09,301 AND HOW HE'D CREATED THIS ENTIRE EMPIRE THAT HE HAD BUILT. 88 00:03:09,303 --> 00:03:09,935 EMPIRE THAT HE HAD BUILT. >> EPSTEIN DID NOT GROW UP WITH 89 00:03:09,937 --> 00:03:11,036 >> EPSTEIN DID NOT GROW UP WITH MONEY, HE GREW UP IN A WORKING 90 00:03:11,038 --> 00:03:13,438 MONEY, HE GREW UP IN A WORKING CLASS HOUSEHOLD. 91 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,039 CLASS HOUSEHOLD. EPSTEIN HAD A REPUTATION FOR 92 00:03:14,041 --> 00:03:14,673 EPSTEIN HAD A REPUTATION FOR BEING EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT AND 93 00:03:14,675 --> 00:03:17,943 BEING EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT AND GIFTED AT MATH. 94 00:03:17,945 --> 00:03:18,544 GIFTED AT MATH. >> I WAS ALWAYS VERY GOOD AT 95 00:03:18,546 --> 00:03:18,844 >> I WAS ALWAYS VERY GOOD AT MATHEMATICS. 96 00:03:18,846 --> 00:03:19,511 MATHEMATICS. >> WHAT MADE YOU INTERESTED IN 97 00:03:19,513 --> 00:03:21,280 >> WHAT MADE YOU INTERESTED IN IT? 98 00:03:21,282 --> 00:03:21,813 IT? >> IT WAS SOLVING PUZZLES. 99 00:03:21,815 --> 00:03:23,348 >> IT WAS SOLVING PUZZLES. IT'S A STRANGE FEELING WHEN YOU 100 00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:23,949 IT'S A STRANGE FEELING WHEN YOU GET THE RIGHT ANSWER TO A 101 00:03:23,951 --> 00:03:24,883 GET THE RIGHT ANSWER TO A PUZZLE. 102 00:03:24,885 --> 00:03:26,118 PUZZLE. >> HE NEVER GRADUATED FROM 103 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,922 >> HE NEVER GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE. 104 00:03:29,924 --> 00:03:33,759 COLLEGE. HOWEVER, HE WAS ABLE, BECAUSE OF 105 00:03:33,761 --> 00:03:34,393 HOWEVER, HE WAS ABLE, BECAUSE OF HIS INTELLIGENCE, TO FIND WORK 106 00:03:34,395 --> 00:03:34,960 HIS INTELLIGENCE, TO FIND WORK AT THE DALTON SCHOOL ON THE 107 00:03:34,962 --> 00:03:38,130 AT THE DALTON SCHOOL ON THE UPPER EAST SIDE IN MANHATTAN. 108 00:03:38,132 --> 00:03:40,032 UPPER EAST SIDE IN MANHATTAN. >> DALTON IS A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON 109 00:03:40,034 --> 00:03:42,000 >> DALTON IS A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON THE UPPER EAST SIDE THAT'S 110 00:03:42,002 --> 00:03:42,601 THE UPPER EAST SIDE THAT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN ASSOCIATED 111 00:03:42,603 --> 00:03:44,136 HISTORICALLY BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE TIPPITY TOP OF THE 1%. 112 00:03:44,138 --> 00:03:46,104 WITH THE TIPPITY TOP OF THE 1%. >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS MY MATH 113 00:03:46,106 --> 00:03:47,940 >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS MY MATH TEACHER FOR THE TWO YEARS HE WAS 114 00:03:47,942 --> 00:03:50,175 TEACHER FOR THE TWO YEARS HE WAS AT DALTON. 115 00:03:50,177 --> 00:03:52,244 AT DALTON. HE HAD THAT THICK BROOKLYN 116 00:03:52,246 --> 00:03:53,278 HE HAD THAT THICK BROOKLYN ACCENT, HE WAS SO PERSONABLE AND 117 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:53,946 ACCENT, HE WAS SO PERSONABLE AND SO CHARISMATIC. 118 00:03:53,948 --> 00:03:55,881 SO CHARISMATIC. HE FOUND WHAT I THINK WAS A 119 00:03:55,883 --> 00:03:56,448 HE FOUND WHAT I THINK WAS A BRILLIANT WAY TO MEET RICH 120 00:03:56,450 --> 00:03:58,150 BRILLIANT WAY TO MEET RICH PEOPLE, WHICH IS THROUGH THEIR 121 00:03:58,152 --> 00:04:00,452 PEOPLE, WHICH IS THROUGH THEIR CHILDREN. 122 00:04:05,593 --> 00:04:06,058 >> EPSTEIN'S RISE BEGINS, YOU KNOW, AT THIS SCHOOL. 123 00:04:06,060 --> 00:04:07,159 KNOW, AT THIS SCHOOL. HE MANAGES TO, YOU KNOW, USE 124 00:04:07,161 --> 00:04:08,227 HE MANAGES TO, YOU KNOW, USE THAT AS SPRINGBOARD TO GET A JOB 125 00:04:08,229 --> 00:04:08,860 THAT AS SPRINGBOARD TO GET A JOB AT BEAR STERNS, BECAUSE ONE OF 126 00:04:08,862 --> 00:04:09,461 AT BEAR STERNS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE PARENTS WAS SORT OF VERY 127 00:04:09,463 --> 00:04:10,128 THE PARENTS WAS SORT OF VERY HIGH UP THERE. 128 00:04:10,130 --> 00:04:13,465 HIGH UP THERE. >> HERE'S A GUY WHO WAS SMART, 129 00:04:13,467 --> 00:04:17,035 >> HERE'S A GUY WHO WAS SMART, CHARMING, CUNNING, HE KNEW HOW 130 00:04:17,037 --> 00:04:17,936 CHARMING, CUNNING, HE KNEW HOW TO READ PEOPLE AND GET WHAT HE 131 00:04:22,076 --> 00:04:22,708 NEEDED FROM THEM. IN 1980, EPSTEIN EVEN APPEARS IN 132 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:23,375 IN 1980, EPSTEIN EVEN APPEARS IN "COSMO" MAGAZINE AS A BACHELOR 133 00:04:23,377 --> 00:04:23,942 "COSMO" MAGAZINE AS A BACHELOR OF THE MONTH. 134 00:04:23,944 --> 00:04:24,743 OF THE MONTH. HE'S DESCRIBED AS A FINANCIAL 135 00:04:24,745 --> 00:04:26,111 HE'S DESCRIBED AS A FINANCIAL STRATEGIST WHO TALKS ONLY TO 136 00:04:26,113 --> 00:04:27,846 STRATEGIST WHO TALKS ONLY TO PEOPLE WHO MAKE OVER A MILLION A 137 00:04:27,848 --> 00:04:29,948 PEOPLE WHO MAKE OVER A MILLION A YEAR. 138 00:04:29,950 --> 00:04:30,983 YEAR. >> DURING HIS TIME AT BEAR 139 00:04:30,985 --> 00:04:33,051 >> DURING HIS TIME AT BEAR STEARNS, HE HAD MET A CLIENT OF 140 00:04:38,125 --> 00:04:39,291 >> EPSTEIN AND MR. WEXNER BECOME REALLY CLOSE FRIENDS IN THOSE 141 00:04:39,293 --> 00:04:41,627 REALLY CLOSE FRIENDS IN THOSE EARLY YEARS. 142 00:04:41,629 --> 00:04:46,164 EARLY YEARS. AND LESLIE WEXNER IS A 143 00:04:46,166 --> 00:04:47,899 AND LESLIE WEXNER IS A BILLIONAIRE. 144 00:04:47,901 --> 00:04:48,533 BILLIONAIRE. HE'S THE FOUNDER OF THE LIMITED 145 00:04:48,535 --> 00:04:48,767 HE'S THE FOUNDER OF THE LIMITED COMPANY. 146 00:04:48,769 --> 00:04:49,401 COMPANY. >> THE BRAND THAT WEXNER IS MOST 147 00:04:59,546 --> 00:05:00,145 WEALTH FOR NOT JUST MR. WEXNER, BUT FOR HIS ENTIRE FAMILY AND 148 00:05:00,147 --> 00:05:01,179 BUT FOR HIS ENTIRE FAMILY AND THEIR FORTUNE. 149 00:05:01,181 --> 00:05:03,682 THEIR FORTUNE. NOW, EXACTLY WHAT HE DID WITH 150 00:05:03,684 --> 00:05:04,716 NOW, EXACTLY WHAT HE DID WITH THAT MONEY IS UNCLEAR. 151 00:05:04,718 --> 00:05:05,250 THAT MONEY IS UNCLEAR. >> I DON'T TELL HIM WHAT 152 00:05:05,252 --> 00:05:06,018 >> I DON'T TELL HIM WHAT SWEATERS TO BUY, HE DOESN'T TELL 153 00:05:06,020 --> 00:05:07,319 SWEATERS TO BUY, HE DOESN'T TELL ME WHEN TO BUY OR SELL STOCK. 154 00:05:07,321 --> 00:05:07,786 ME WHEN TO BUY OR SELL STOCK. >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S 155 00:05:07,788 --> 00:05:08,387 >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH LES WEXNER 156 00:05:08,389 --> 00:05:10,455 RELATIONSHIP WITH LES WEXNER CHANGES HIS FINANCIAL SITUATION. 157 00:05:10,457 --> 00:05:14,126 CHANGES HIS FINANCIAL SITUATION. HE BECOMES THIS ULTRA-RICH, 158 00:05:14,128 --> 00:05:15,661 HE BECOMES THIS ULTRA-RICH, MEGA-RICH GUY. 159 00:05:15,663 --> 00:05:16,295 MEGA-RICH GUY. >> IT'S NOT LONG AFTER EPSTEIN 160 00:05:16,297 --> 00:05:17,929 >> IT'S NOT LONG AFTER EPSTEIN STARTS WORKING FOR WEXNER THAT 161 00:05:17,931 --> 00:05:19,298 STARTS WORKING FOR WEXNER THAT HE BEGINS TO ACQUIRE THIS VAST 162 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:22,134 HE BEGINS TO ACQUIRE THIS VAST PORTFOLIO OF LUXURY PROPERTIES 163 00:05:22,136 --> 00:05:25,537 PORTFOLIO OF LUXURY PROPERTIES AROUND THE WORLD. 164 00:05:25,539 --> 00:05:26,171 AROUND THE WORLD. >> ON MY OWN ISLAND OR ON MY OWN 165 00:05:26,173 --> 00:05:29,174 >> ON MY OWN ISLAND OR ON MY OWN RANCH, I CAN THINK THE THOUGHTS 166 00:05:29,176 --> 00:05:29,541 RANCH, I CAN THINK THE THOUGHTS I WANT TO THINK. 167 00:05:29,543 --> 00:05:30,175 I WANT TO THINK. I CAN DO THE WORK I WANT TO DO 168 00:05:30,177 --> 00:05:30,809 I CAN DO THE WORK I WANT TO DO AND I'M FREE TO EXPLORE AS I SEE 169 00:05:30,811 --> 00:05:34,146 AND I'M FREE TO EXPLORE AS I SEE FIT. 170 00:05:34,148 --> 00:05:34,780 FIT. >> EPSTEIN THEN MEETS THIS WOMAN 171 00:05:34,782 --> 00:05:37,983 >> EPSTEIN THEN MEETS THIS WOMAN WHO BECOMES PIVOTAL IN HIS LIFE. 172 00:05:37,985 --> 00:05:38,583 WHO BECOMES PIVOTAL IN HIS LIFE. HER NAME IS GHISLAINE MAXWELL. 173 00:05:38,585 --> 00:05:39,584 HER NAME IS GHISLAINE MAXWELL. >> HE MET HER THROUGH A MUTUAL 174 00:05:39,586 --> 00:05:45,290 >> HE MET HER THROUGH A MUTUAL FRIEND IN NEW YORK. 175 00:05:45,292 --> 00:05:46,124 FRIEND IN NEW YORK. >> BY MOST ACCOUNTS, THEY'RE 176 00:05:46,126 --> 00:05:47,926 >> BY MOST ACCOUNTS, THEY'RE BOYFRIEND AND GIRLFRIEND. 177 00:05:47,928 --> 00:05:49,995 BOYFRIEND AND GIRLFRIEND. I MEAN, I USE THAT TERM PRETTY 178 00:05:49,997 --> 00:05:50,629 I MEAN, I USE THAT TERM PRETTY LOOSELY, BECAUSE CERTAINLY THEY 179 00:05:50,631 --> 00:05:51,530 LOOSELY, BECAUSE CERTAINLY THEY HAD A VERY OPEN RELATIONSHIP. 180 00:05:51,532 --> 00:05:52,164 HAD A VERY OPEN RELATIONSHIP. >> GHISLAINE WAS 100% THE LADY 181 00:05:52,166 --> 00:05:56,735 >> GHISLAINE WAS 100% THE LADY OF THE HOUSE AT JEFFREY'S. 182 00:05:56,737 --> 00:05:58,136 OF THE HOUSE AT JEFFREY'S. >> MARIA FARMER, IN A LAWSUIT, 183 00:05:58,138 --> 00:06:02,174 >> MARIA FARMER, IN A LAWSUIT, ALLEGES WHILE SHE WAS WORKING 184 00:06:02,176 --> 00:06:05,043 ALLEGES WHILE SHE WAS WORKING THE FRONT DOOR AT EPSTEIN'S 185 00:06:05,045 --> 00:06:05,644 THE FRONT DOOR AT EPSTEIN'S TOWNHOUSE, SHE STARTED SEEING 186 00:06:05,646 --> 00:06:07,112 TOWNHOUSE, SHE STARTED SEEING THINGS THAT CONCERNED HER, 187 00:06:07,114 --> 00:06:09,214 THINGS THAT CONCERNED HER, INVOLVING EPSTEIN AND GHISLAINE 188 00:06:09,216 --> 00:06:09,448 INVOLVING EPSTEIN AND GHISLAINE MAXWELL. 189 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:13,885 MAXWELL. >> GHISLAINE MAXWELL WOULD GO 190 00:06:17,091 --> 00:06:17,923 SHE WOULD SAY, "THESE ARE THE NUBILES." 191 00:06:17,925 --> 00:06:21,693 NUBILES." "I NEED THE NUBILES." 192 00:06:21,695 --> 00:06:22,094 "I NEED THE NUBILES." THAT WAS HER WORD. 193 00:06:22,096 --> 00:06:26,098 THAT WAS HER WORD. SHE WOULD BRING THEM TO JEFFREY 194 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:29,501 SHE WOULD BRING THEM TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S MANSION AND THEY WERE 195 00:06:29,503 --> 00:06:30,102 EPSTEIN'S MANSION AND THEY WERE JUST WALKED UP ONE AT A TIME. 196 00:06:30,104 --> 00:06:33,638 JUST WALKED UP ONE AT A TIME. AND THEY HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF 197 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,707 AND THEY HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME UPSTAIRS AND THEN THEY WERE 198 00:06:35,709 --> 00:06:38,110 TIME UPSTAIRS AND THEN THEY WERE BROUGHT DOWN. 199 00:06:38,112 --> 00:06:38,744 BROUGHT DOWN. I ASKED GHISLAINE, "WHY ARE YOU 200 00:06:38,746 --> 00:06:40,112 I ASKED GHISLAINE, "WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS GOING OUT TO FETCH 201 00:06:40,114 --> 00:06:40,612 ALWAYS GOING OUT TO FETCH CHILDREN?" 202 00:06:40,614 --> 00:06:41,246 CHILDREN?" SHE MADE IT CLEAR JEFFREY WORKED 203 00:06:41,248 --> 00:06:44,249 SHE MADE IT CLEAR JEFFREY WORKED FOR LES WEXNER. 204 00:06:44,251 --> 00:06:45,817 FOR LES WEXNER. AND THEY WERE JUST ACQUIRING 205 00:06:45,819 --> 00:06:46,418 AND THEY WERE JUST ACQUIRING MODELS FOR VICTORIA'S SECRET. 206 00:06:46,420 --> 00:06:46,985 MODELS FOR VICTORIA'S SECRET. I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG. 207 00:06:46,987 --> 00:06:50,122 I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG. 208 00:06:50,124 --> 00:06:52,057 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG. >> MARIA FARMER SAYS THAT 209 00:06:52,059 --> 00:06:53,992 >> MARIA FARMER SAYS THAT BASICALLY EVERYTHING SHE THOUGHT 210 00:06:53,994 --> 00:06:55,694 BASICALLY EVERYTHING SHE THOUGHT SHE KNEW ABOUT EPSTEIN AND 211 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,134 ONE NIGHT. >> EPSTEIN HAD OFFERED HER THE 212 00:07:02,136 --> 00:07:02,968 >> EPSTEIN HAD OFFERED HER THE USE OF HIS RESIDENCE IN AN OHIO 213 00:07:02,970 --> 00:07:06,037 USE OF HIS RESIDENCE IN AN OHIO COMMUNITY DEVELOPED BY WEXNER TO 214 00:07:06,039 --> 00:07:07,639 COMMUNITY DEVELOPED BY WEXNER TO WORK ON AN ART PROJECT. 215 00:07:07,641 --> 00:07:08,273 WORK ON AN ART PROJECT. >> SHE SAYS MAXWELL AND EPSTEIN 216 00:07:08,275 --> 00:07:10,108 >> SHE SAYS MAXWELL AND EPSTEIN CAME TO VISIT HER. 217 00:07:10,110 --> 00:07:11,943 CAME TO VISIT HER. AND THEN SHE SAYS SHE WAS CALLED 218 00:07:11,945 --> 00:07:17,516 AND THEN SHE SAYS SHE WAS CALLED INTO EPSTEIN'S BEDROOM. 219 00:07:17,518 --> 00:07:18,150 INTO EPSTEIN'S BEDROOM. >> AND JEFFREY WAS LYING THERE 220 00:07:18,152 --> 00:07:20,118 >> AND JEFFREY WAS LYING THERE ON THE BED WITH SOCKS ON AND 221 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,686 ON THE BED WITH SOCKS ON AND BOXERS. 222 00:07:21,688 --> 00:07:22,287 BOXERS. AND HE GOES, "SIT RIGHT HERE." 223 00:07:22,289 --> 00:07:23,922 AND HE GOES, "SIT RIGHT HERE." AND I THOUGHT, "OH GOD." 224 00:07:23,924 --> 00:07:25,857 AND I THOUGHT, "OH GOD." AND I SAT DOWN. 225 00:07:25,859 --> 00:07:26,491 AND I SAT DOWN. AND GHISLAINE GOT ON THE OTHER 226 00:07:26,493 --> 00:07:29,928 AND GHISLAINE GOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME. 227 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:33,265 SIDE OF ME. >> MARIA FARMER, IN HER LAWSUIT, 228 00:07:33,267 --> 00:07:34,833 >> MARIA FARMER, IN HER LAWSUIT, ALLEGES THAT EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL 229 00:07:34,835 --> 00:07:35,333 ALLEGES THAT EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL THEN VIOLENTLY SEXUALLY 230 00:07:35,335 --> 00:07:37,502 THEN VIOLENTLY SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HER. 231 00:07:37,504 --> 00:07:38,136 ASSAULTED HER. >> I REMEMBER BEING IN A LOT OF 232 00:07:38,138 --> 00:07:38,370 >> I REMEMBER BEING IN A LOT OF PAIN. 233 00:07:38,372 --> 00:07:41,106 PAIN. I REMEMBER HAVING SOME BRUISES. 234 00:07:41,108 --> 00:07:41,740 I REMEMBER HAVING SOME BRUISES. THEY DIDN'T GET MY CLOTHES OFF. 235 00:07:46,814 --> 00:07:47,946 I WAS IN AN ABSOLUTE PANIC, TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS ABLE TO 236 00:07:47,948 --> 00:07:50,115 THE POINT WHERE I WAS ABLE TO GET MYSELF UP AND GET OUT OF 237 00:07:50,117 --> 00:07:52,684 GET MYSELF UP AND GET OUT OF THAT ROOM. 238 00:07:52,686 --> 00:07:53,318 THAT ROOM. AND GHISLAINE CAME AFTER ME, BUT 239 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,922 AND GHISLAINE CAME AFTER ME, BUT I LITERALLY TOOK THESE BIG 240 00:07:56,924 --> 00:07:58,023 I LITERALLY TOOK THESE BIG PIECES OF FURNITURE AND I PUSHED 241 00:07:58,025 --> 00:07:58,857 PIECES OF FURNITURE AND I PUSHED THEM AGAINST THE DOOR. 242 00:07:58,859 --> 00:07:59,491 THEM AGAINST THE DOOR. >> AFTER THIS ALLEGED ASSAULT IN 243 00:07:59,493 --> 00:08:00,125 >> AFTER THIS ALLEGED ASSAULT IN OHIO, MARIA'S DONE WITH EPSTEIN 244 00:08:00,127 --> 00:08:02,194 OHIO, MARIA'S DONE WITH EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL. 245 00:08:02,196 --> 00:08:02,894 AND MAXWELL. SHE WANTS NOTHING MORE TO DO 246 00:08:02,896 --> 00:08:04,463 SHE WANTS NOTHING MORE TO DO WITH THEM, BUT WHEN SHE GETS 247 00:08:04,465 --> 00:08:05,931 WITH THEM, BUT WHEN SHE GETS BACK TO NEW YORK, SHE SAYS SHE 248 00:08:05,933 --> 00:08:06,932 BACK TO NEW YORK, SHE SAYS SHE BEGINS TO GET THREATENING PHONE 249 00:08:06,934 --> 00:08:09,734 BEGINS TO GET THREATENING PHONE CALLS FROM MAXWELL. 250 00:08:09,736 --> 00:08:10,268 CALLS FROM MAXWELL. SHE ALSO CLAIMS THAT BOTH 251 00:08:10,270 --> 00:08:11,937 SHE ALSO CLAIMS THAT BOTH EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL ARE 252 00:08:11,939 --> 00:08:14,105 EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL ARE HARASSING HER AND TRYING TO RUIN 253 00:08:14,107 --> 00:08:17,943 HARASSING HER AND TRYING TO RUIN HER ART CAREER. 254 00:08:17,945 --> 00:08:18,577 HER ART CAREER. >> THE WAY I'D BEEN TREATED MADE 255 00:08:18,579 --> 00:08:21,179 >> THE WAY I'D BEEN TREATED MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO ME, THERE IS 256 00:08:21,181 --> 00:08:21,847 IT VERY CLEAR TO ME, THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON. 257 00:08:21,849 --> 00:08:24,883 SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON. >> MARIA REALIZES, THIS WASN'T 258 00:08:24,885 --> 00:08:25,917 >> MARIA REALIZES, THIS WASN'T SOMEBODY WHO'S INTERVIEWING 259 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:27,619 SOMEBODY WHO'S INTERVIEWING PEOPLE FOR VICTORIA'S SECRET 260 00:08:27,621 --> 00:08:31,957 PEOPLE FOR VICTORIA'S SECRET MACHLT REA FILES A POLICE REPORT 261 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:32,524 MACHLT REA FILES A POLICE REPORT AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 262 00:08:32,526 --> 00:08:33,525 AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN. AND THEN MARIA CALLS THE FBI. 263 00:08:33,527 --> 00:08:34,159 AND THEN MARIA CALLS THE FBI. >> AND I SAID, "ARE YOU TAKING 264 00:08:34,161 --> 00:08:34,493 >> AND I SAID, "ARE YOU TAKING ME SERIOUSLY?" 265 00:08:34,495 --> 00:08:35,961 ME SERIOUSLY?" AND HE SAID, "YES, I'M TAKING 266 00:08:35,963 --> 00:08:36,561 AND HE SAID, "YES, I'M TAKING YOU SERIOUSLY." 267 00:08:36,563 --> 00:08:39,798 YOU SERIOUSLY." IF THE FBI HAD LISTENED TO ME IN 268 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,900 IF THE FBI HAD LISTENED TO ME IN 1996, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO 269 00:08:41,902 --> 00:08:42,234 1996, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO MORE VICTIMS. 270 00:08:42,236 --> 00:08:43,468 MORE VICTIMS. >> IT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE 271 00:08:43,470 --> 00:08:44,102 >> IT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE MASSIVE DESTRUCTION THAT JEFFREY 272 00:08:44,104 --> 00:08:48,640 MASSIVE DESTRUCTION THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN CAUSED. 273 00:08:48,642 --> 00:08:49,274 EPSTEIN CAUSED. >> NONE OF THE STUFF IN FLORIDA 274 00:08:49,276 --> 00:08:49,808 >> NONE OF THE STUFF IN FLORIDA WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED. 275 00:08:49,810 --> 00:08:51,776 WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED. >> I WAS 14 YEARS OLD. 276 00:08:51,778 --> 00:08:53,945 >> I WAS 14 YEARS OLD. >> I WAS 16 YEARS OLD. 277 00:08:53,947 --> 00:08:56,448 >> I WAS 16 YEARS OLD. >> I WAS 14 YEARS OLD. 278 00:08:56,450 --> 00:08:58,049 >> I WAS 14 YEARS OLD. >> WILL YOU AGREE THAT YOU 279 00:08:58,051 --> 00:08:58,617 >> WILL YOU AGREE THAT YOU EXCHANGED MONEY FOR SEXUAL 280 00:08:58,619 --> 00:09:00,619 EXCHANGED MONEY FOR SEXUAL GRATIFICATION WITH AT LEAST 281 00:09:00,621 --> 00:09:02,153 GRATIFICATION WITH AT LEAST 50 GIRLS AT YOUR PALM BEACH 282 00:09:02,155 --> 00:09:03,755 50 GIRLS AT YOUR PALM BEACH MANSION? 283 00:09:06,692 --> 00:09:13,765 >>> SIR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL 284 00:09:20,374 --> 00:09:23,141 EXCHANGED MONEY FOR SEXUAL GRATIFICATION WITH AT LEAST 285 00:09:23,143 --> 00:09:24,376 GRATIFICATION WITH AT LEAST 50 GIRLS AT YOUR PALM BEACH 286 00:09:24,378 --> 00:09:25,844 50 GIRLS AT YOUR PALM BEACH MANSION? 287 00:09:25,846 --> 00:09:31,216 MANSION? >> AT THE PRESENT TIME, MY 288 00:09:33,820 --> 00:09:35,954 ATTORNEYS HAVE COUNSELED ME TO NOT PROVIDE ANY ANSWERS TO ANY 289 00:09:35,956 --> 00:09:36,521 NOT PROVIDE ANY ANSWERS TO ANY QUESTIONS RELEVANT TO THIS 290 00:09:36,523 --> 00:09:40,091 QUESTIONS RELEVANT TO THIS LAWSUIT. 291 00:09:40,093 --> 00:09:40,725 LAWSUIT. >> TO UNDERSTAND THIS STORY, YOU 292 00:09:40,727 --> 00:09:44,462 >> TO UNDERSTAND THIS STORY, YOU REALLY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND 293 00:09:44,464 --> 00:09:45,830 REALLY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND PALM BEACH. 294 00:09:45,832 --> 00:09:46,865 PALM BEACH. PALM BEACH IS A PLAYGROUND FOR 295 00:09:46,867 --> 00:09:51,536 PALM BEACH IS A PLAYGROUND FOR THE RICH. 296 00:09:56,410 --> 00:09:58,376 >> SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSES, MANSIONS, BEAUTIFUL 297 00:09:58,378 --> 00:10:01,546 HOUSES, MANSIONS, BEAUTIFUL BOUTIQUES. 298 00:10:03,650 --> 00:10:04,115 WORTH AVENUE WHERE ALL THE EXPENSIVE STORES ARE. 299 00:10:04,117 --> 00:10:07,285 EXPENSIVE STORES ARE. THE CARS ARE OUTSTANDING. 300 00:10:07,287 --> 00:10:07,919 THE CARS ARE OUTSTANDING. THE BENTLEYS, THE ROLLS, THE -- 301 00:10:07,921 --> 00:10:09,888 THE BENTLEYS, THE ROLLS, THE -- THE FERRARIS, YOU NAME THEM. 302 00:10:09,890 --> 00:10:12,657 THE FERRARIS, YOU NAME THEM. >> THE NORM THERE ON PALM BEACH, 303 00:10:12,659 --> 00:10:16,294 >> THE NORM THERE ON PALM BEACH, YOU'RE NOT A BILLIONAIRE, YOU'RE 304 00:10:16,296 --> 00:10:17,195 YOU'RE NOT A BILLIONAIRE, YOU'RE A BILLIONAIRE. 305 00:10:17,197 --> 00:10:18,730 A BILLIONAIRE. >> BUT OF COURSE, IT'S NOT THE 306 00:10:18,732 --> 00:10:19,030 >> BUT OF COURSE, IT'S NOT THE REAL WORLD. 307 00:10:19,032 --> 00:10:20,298 REAL WORLD. YOU KNOW, THE REAL WORLD IS 308 00:10:20,300 --> 00:10:22,901 YOU KNOW, THE REAL WORLD IS CRUSHING POVERTY LESS THAN 309 00:10:22,903 --> 00:10:23,535 CRUSHING POVERTY LESS THAN 30 MINUTES AWAY FROM THE ISLAND 310 00:10:23,537 --> 00:10:30,041 30 MINUTES AWAY FROM THE ISLAND OF PALM BEACH. 311 00:10:30,043 --> 00:10:31,276 OF PALM BEACH. ONCE YOU CROSS THE BRIDGE, YOU 312 00:10:31,278 --> 00:10:31,876 ONCE YOU CROSS THE BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT 313 00:10:31,878 --> 00:10:32,477 KNOW, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD. 314 00:10:32,479 --> 00:10:34,479 WORLD. >> THE GIRLS THAT WERE INVOLVED 315 00:10:34,481 --> 00:10:36,214 >> THE GIRLS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, THEY REALLY COULD NOT 316 00:10:36,216 --> 00:10:37,782 IN THIS, THEY REALLY COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE SEPARATED AND 317 00:10:37,784 --> 00:10:40,151 HAVE BEEN MORE SEPARATED AND DIFFERENT FROM THE WORLD OF 318 00:10:40,153 --> 00:10:40,452 DIFFERENT FROM THE WORLD OF PALM BEACH. 319 00:10:40,454 --> 00:10:42,120 PALM BEACH. THEY'RE LIVING IN TRAILER PARK 320 00:10:42,122 --> 00:10:42,354 THEY'RE LIVING IN TRAILER PARK HOMES. 321 00:10:42,356 --> 00:10:46,291 HOMES. SOME OF THEM HAD PROBABLY NEVER 322 00:10:46,293 --> 00:10:46,791 SOME OF THEM HAD PROBABLY NEVER EVEN BEEN TO THE ISLAND. 323 00:10:46,793 --> 00:10:48,393 EVEN BEEN TO THE ISLAND. >> THE TARGETS, THE VICTIMS WERE 324 00:10:48,395 --> 00:10:50,462 >> THE TARGETS, THE VICTIMS WERE AS VULNERABLE AS YOU COULD 325 00:10:50,464 --> 00:10:51,763 AS VULNERABLE AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY BE. 326 00:10:51,765 --> 00:10:54,099 POSSIBLY BE. >> IF THEY WERE THE DAUGHTERS OF 327 00:10:54,101 --> 00:10:55,800 >> IF THEY WERE THE DAUGHTERS OF BANKERS AND LAWYERS AND DOCTORS 328 00:10:55,802 --> 00:10:56,568 BANKERS AND LAWYERS AND DOCTORS IN PALM BEACH, THIS WOULD HAVE 329 00:10:56,570 --> 00:10:59,337 IN PALM BEACH, THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER OCCURRED. 330 00:10:59,339 --> 00:11:00,405 NEVER OCCURRED. >> DO YOU KNOW SOMEBODY BY THE 331 00:11:00,407 --> 00:11:05,076 >> DO YOU KNOW SOMEBODY BY THE NAME OF COURTNEY WILD? 332 00:11:05,078 --> 00:11:08,380 NAME OF COURTNEY WILD? >> I'M COURTNEY WILD AND I'M 333 00:11:16,857 --> 00:11:20,358 GENERAL, BUT I WAS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD STUDENT, STRAIGHT As 334 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:20,592 VERY GOOD STUDENT, STRAIGHT As AND Bs. 335 00:11:20,594 --> 00:11:23,028 AND Bs. I PLAYED THE TRUMPET, I WAS 336 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:24,362 I PLAYED THE TRUMPET, I WAS ON THE CHEERLEADING SQUAD. 337 00:11:24,364 --> 00:11:28,333 ON THE CHEERLEADING SQUAD. I LOVED SCHOOL. 338 00:11:28,335 --> 00:11:30,835 I LOVED SCHOOL. >> ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU WERE 339 00:11:30,837 --> 00:11:32,370 >> ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU WERE TARGETING YOUNG, ECONOMICALLY 340 00:11:44,985 --> 00:11:46,384 MY 14-YEAR-OLD SELF WAS VERY LOST AND BROKEN. 341 00:11:46,386 --> 00:11:50,555 LOST AND BROKEN. VERY IMPRESSIONABLE. 342 00:11:50,557 --> 00:11:52,290 VERY IMPRESSIONABLE. MY MOM WAS VERY BAD INTO DRUGS. 343 00:11:52,292 --> 00:11:55,160 MY MOM WAS VERY BAD INTO DRUGS. I WASN'T GOING TO SCHOOL. 344 00:11:55,162 --> 00:11:58,296 I WASN'T GOING TO SCHOOL. I WAS KIND OF ON MY OWN. 345 00:11:58,298 --> 00:12:00,899 I WAS KIND OF ON MY OWN. >> ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU 346 00:12:00,901 --> 00:12:04,335 >> ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU TYPICALLY ENGAGED IN SEX OR SEX 347 00:12:04,337 --> 00:12:04,969 TYPICALLY ENGAGED IN SEX OR SEX ACTS WITH MINOR GIRLS THREE OR 348 00:12:04,971 --> 00:12:10,308 ACTS WITH MINOR GIRLS THREE OR FOUR TIMES EACH DAY? 349 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:11,776 FOUR TIMES EACH DAY? >> MY NAME IS MICHELLE LICATA. 350 00:12:11,778 --> 00:12:13,378 >> MY NAME IS MICHELLE LICATA. WE HAD A FUN CHILDHOOD. 351 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:16,648 WE HAD A FUN CHILDHOOD. WE WERE A REALLY BIG FAMILY. 352 00:12:21,988 --> 00:12:24,355 >> IT'S MY BIRTHDAY, NOT JOEY'S, NOT CODY'S. 353 00:12:24,357 --> 00:12:27,525 NOT CODY'S. >> I WAS ME AND MY FIVE BROTHERS 354 00:12:27,527 --> 00:12:27,959 >> I WAS ME AND MY FIVE BROTHERS AND I HAVE A SISTER. 355 00:12:27,961 --> 00:12:28,560 AND I HAVE A SISTER. THERE WAS NEVER A DULL MOMENT. 356 00:12:28,562 --> 00:12:30,462 THERE WAS NEVER A DULL MOMENT. >> THE MICHELLE BEFORE ALL OF 357 00:12:30,464 --> 00:12:32,363 >> THE MICHELLE BEFORE ALL OF THIS HAPPENED, SHE WAS THE 358 00:12:32,365 --> 00:12:34,365 THIS HAPPENED, SHE WAS THE ALL-AMERICAN DREAM CHILD. 359 00:12:34,367 --> 00:12:36,067 ALL-AMERICAN DREAM CHILD. >> I LOVE YOU, MOM! 360 00:12:36,069 --> 00:12:38,770 >> I LOVE YOU, MOM! >> SHE DID CHEERLEADING. 361 00:12:38,772 --> 00:12:41,139 >> SHE DID CHEERLEADING. >> WE'RE HERE TO DOMINATE! 362 00:12:46,379 --> 00:12:48,113 THERE WAS A SHORT PERIOD WHERE I WANTED TO BE, LIKE, A 363 00:12:48,115 --> 00:12:48,413 WANTED TO BE, LIKE, A FIREFIGHTER. 364 00:12:48,415 --> 00:12:52,817 FIREFIGHTER. I ALWAYS WANTED TO HELP PEOPLE. 365 00:12:52,819 --> 00:12:53,318 I ALWAYS WANTED TO HELP PEOPLE. I ALWAYS WANTED TO SAVE 366 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,354 I ALWAYS WANTED TO SAVE SOMEBODY. 367 00:12:56,356 --> 00:12:58,423 SOMEBODY. >> WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE 368 00:12:58,425 --> 00:13:01,092 >> WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE STORIES OF HOW COURTNEY, 369 00:13:01,094 --> 00:13:02,160 STORIES OF HOW COURTNEY, JENA-LISA AND MICHELLE FIRST GOT 370 00:13:02,162 --> 00:13:02,794 JENA-LISA AND MICHELLE FIRST GOT INVOLVED WITH EPSTEIN, THEY'RE 371 00:13:02,796 --> 00:13:04,362 INVOLVED WITH EPSTEIN, THEY'RE EERILY SIMILAR, EVEN THOUGH THEY 372 00:13:04,364 --> 00:13:08,366 EERILY SIMILAR, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAPPENED AT DIFFERENT TIMES. 373 00:13:24,084 --> 00:13:24,682 AND WE COULD MAKE $200. >> A FRIEND TOLD ME ABOUT HER 374 00:13:24,684 --> 00:13:29,120 >> A FRIEND TOLD ME ABOUT HER FRIEND FROM SCHOOL THAT IS SUPER 375 00:13:29,122 --> 00:13:30,555 FRIEND FROM SCHOOL THAT IS SUPER POPULAR AND SHE WAS, LIKE, 376 00:13:30,557 --> 00:13:32,357 POPULAR AND SHE WAS, LIKE, THEY'RE HAVING A LITTLE 377 00:13:32,359 --> 00:13:32,891 THEY'RE HAVING A LITTLE GET-TOGETHER, HANGING OUT. 378 00:13:32,893 --> 00:13:34,392 GET-TOGETHER, HANGING OUT. AND ONE OF THE GIRLS STARTS 379 00:13:34,394 --> 00:13:36,361 AND ONE OF THE GIRLS STARTS TALKING ABOUT A GUY NAMED JEFF 380 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:40,765 AND HOW EASY IT WAS TO GO AND MAKE SOME MONEY. 381 00:13:40,767 --> 00:13:42,066 MAKE SOME MONEY. >> I WAS 16 YEARS OLD. 382 00:13:42,068 --> 00:13:43,268 >> I WAS 16 YEARS OLD. THERE WAS A GIRL THAT I KNEW 383 00:13:43,270 --> 00:13:45,770 THERE WAS A GIRL THAT I KNEW THAT I THOUGHT WAS A FRIEND OF 384 00:13:45,772 --> 00:13:47,372 THAT I THOUGHT WAS A FRIEND OF MINE AND SHE JUST WAS WRITING ME 385 00:13:47,374 --> 00:13:48,273 MINE AND SHE JUST WAS WRITING ME A NOTE. 386 00:13:48,275 --> 00:13:51,042 A NOTE. SHE ASKED IF I WANTED TO MAKE 387 00:13:51,044 --> 00:13:51,676 SHE ASKED IF I WANTED TO MAKE SOME MONEY. 388 00:13:51,678 --> 00:13:54,779 SOME MONEY. JUST HAVE TO MASSAGE SOME OLD 389 00:13:54,781 --> 00:13:58,483 JUST HAVE TO MASSAGE SOME OLD DUDES, IN, LIKE, A FACILITY-TYPE 390 00:13:58,485 --> 00:14:01,019 DUDES, IN, LIKE, A FACILITY-TYPE SETTING. 391 00:14:01,021 --> 00:14:03,454 SETTING. >> HE'S JUST A DIRTY, OLD MAN. 392 00:14:03,456 --> 00:14:03,888 >> HE'S JUST A DIRTY, OLD MAN. IT'LL BE 200 BUCKS. 393 00:14:03,890 --> 00:14:04,522 IT'LL BE 200 BUCKS. IT WILL PROBABLY BE 20 MINUTES. 394 00:14:04,524 --> 00:14:06,824 IT WILL PROBABLY BE 20 MINUTES. NOT A BIG DEAL. 395 00:14:06,826 --> 00:14:08,326 NOT A BIG DEAL. >> BECAUSE CHRISTMAS WAS RIGHT 396 00:14:08,328 --> 00:14:09,761 >> BECAUSE CHRISTMAS WAS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. 397 00:14:09,763 --> 00:14:11,396 AROUND THE CORNER. BEING ONE OUT OF SEVEN KIDS, I 398 00:14:11,398 --> 00:14:12,363 BEING ONE OUT OF SEVEN KIDS, I WANTED TO GET EVERYBODY A 399 00:14:12,365 --> 00:14:12,730 WANTED TO GET EVERYBODY A PRESENT. 400 00:14:12,732 --> 00:14:15,567 PRESENT. SO, I TOLD HER I WOULD LOVE TO 401 00:14:15,569 --> 00:14:16,034 SO, I TOLD HER I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY. 402 00:14:16,036 --> 00:14:16,601 MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY. >> $200 TO ME WAS A LOT OF 403 00:14:16,603 --> 00:14:19,637 >> $200 TO ME WAS A LOT OF MONEY. 404 00:14:19,639 --> 00:14:20,238 MONEY. $200 MEANT I COULD GO TO THE 405 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,473 $200 MEANT I COULD GO TO THE MALL WITH MY FRIENDS IF I WANTED 406 00:14:22,475 --> 00:14:22,941 MALL WITH MY FRIENDS IF I WANTED TO. 407 00:14:22,943 --> 00:14:24,375 TO. $200 MEANT THAT I COULD HAVE 408 00:14:24,377 --> 00:14:25,810 $200 MEANT THAT I COULD HAVE FOOD FOR THE WEEK. 409 00:14:25,812 --> 00:14:27,011 FOOD FOR THE WEEK. AND YOU DOUBT HAVE TO TELL 410 00:14:27,013 --> 00:14:30,715 AND YOU DOUBT HAVE TO TELL ANYBODY ABOUT YOUR $200? 411 00:14:30,717 --> 00:14:32,417 ANYBODY ABOUT YOUR $200? >> SHE WAS SAY, HE'S GOING TO 412 00:14:32,419 --> 00:14:33,785 >> SHE WAS SAY, HE'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO TAKE YOUR SHIRT AND 413 00:14:33,787 --> 00:14:36,187 TAKE YOU TO TAKE YOUR SHIRT AND YOUR PANTS OFF, BUT DON'T WORRY, 414 00:14:36,189 --> 00:14:38,957 YOUR PANTS OFF, BUT DON'T WORRY, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR UNDERWEAR AND 415 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:39,290 YOU CAN KEEP YOUR UNDERWEAR AND YOUR BRA ON. 416 00:14:39,292 --> 00:14:42,160 YOUR BRA ON. AND I JUST REMEMBER THINKING, 417 00:14:42,162 --> 00:14:43,828 AND I JUST REMEMBER THINKING, LIKE, WELL, OKAY, YOU KNOW, I GO 418 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:46,931 LIKE, WELL, OKAY, YOU KNOW, I GO TO THE BEACH IN A BATHING SUIT 419 00:14:46,933 --> 00:14:48,600 TO THE BEACH IN A BATHING SUIT AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE THAT BIG 420 00:14:48,602 --> 00:14:49,067 AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE THAT BIG OF A DEAL. 421 00:14:49,069 --> 00:14:50,635 OF A DEAL. >> SHE WAS LIKE, YEAH, YOU MIGHT 422 00:14:50,637 --> 00:14:51,970 >> SHE WAS LIKE, YEAH, YOU MIGHT MAKE YOU TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF, 423 00:14:51,972 --> 00:14:53,905 MAKE YOU TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF, BUT IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, HE JUST 424 00:14:53,907 --> 00:14:54,639 BUT IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, HE JUST LIKES TO LOOK. 425 00:14:54,641 --> 00:14:58,476 LIKES TO LOOK. >> I REALLY HADN'T EXPOSED 426 00:14:58,478 --> 00:14:59,377 >> I REALLY HADN'T EXPOSED MYSELF LIKE THAT BEFORE. 427 00:14:59,379 --> 00:15:01,112 MYSELF LIKE THAT BEFORE. I STILL WENT IN THE BATHROOM TO 428 00:15:01,114 --> 00:15:02,180 I STILL WENT IN THE BATHROOM TO CHANGE IN FRONT OF MY 429 00:15:02,182 --> 00:15:03,748 CHANGE IN FRONT OF MY GIRLFRIENDS. 430 00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:04,315 GIRLFRIENDS. SO I WAS VERY, VERY WORRIED. 431 00:15:04,317 --> 00:15:04,949 SO I WAS VERY, VERY WORRIED. >> FOR SOME REASON, I WAS TOLD 432 00:15:04,951 --> 00:15:08,219 >> FOR SOME REASON, I WAS TOLD THAT HE WAS, LIKE, A BRAIN 433 00:15:08,221 --> 00:15:08,853 THAT HE WAS, LIKE, A BRAIN SURGEON, HE WAS A DOCTOR OF SOME 434 00:15:08,855 --> 00:15:09,854 SURGEON, HE WAS A DOCTOR OF SOME SORT. 435 00:15:09,856 --> 00:15:10,288 SORT. I KNEW HE HAD MONEY. 436 00:15:10,290 --> 00:15:10,922 I KNEW HE HAD MONEY. I JUST HAD -- I HAD NO IDEA WHO 437 00:15:10,924 --> 00:15:15,627 I JUST HAD -- I HAD NO IDEA WHO HE WAS, THOUGH. 438 00:15:15,629 --> 00:15:16,394 HE WAS, THOUGH. >> THE POPULAR GIRL, SHE STARTED 439 00:15:16,396 --> 00:15:19,731 >> THE POPULAR GIRL, SHE STARTED DRESSING ME, DOING MY HAIR, 440 00:15:19,733 --> 00:15:20,265 DRESSING ME, DOING MY HAIR, DOING MAKEUP. 441 00:15:20,267 --> 00:15:20,898 DOING MAKEUP. >> JENA-LISA'S USING THE PHRASE 442 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:22,767 >> JENA-LISA'S USING THE PHRASE "THE POPULAR GIRL" BECAUSE SHE 443 00:15:22,769 --> 00:15:24,602 "THE POPULAR GIRL" BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO DIRECTLY 444 00:15:24,604 --> 00:15:25,103 DOESN'T WANT TO DIRECTLY IDENTIFY THE PERSON WHO 445 00:15:25,105 --> 00:15:28,339 IDENTIFY THE PERSON WHO RECRUITED HER. 446 00:15:33,113 --> 00:15:34,178 GOING TO LIKE THAT, IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT SHE TOLD ME. 447 00:15:34,180 --> 00:15:35,780 MUCH WHAT SHE TOLD ME. SHE'S LIKE, HE'S GOING TO THINK 448 00:15:35,782 --> 00:15:37,181 SHE'S LIKE, HE'S GOING TO THINK YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL. 449 00:15:37,183 --> 00:15:38,249 YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL. YOU'RE JUST, ALL RIGHT, I GUESS 450 00:15:38,251 --> 00:15:41,286 YOU'RE JUST, ALL RIGHT, I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. 451 00:15:41,288 --> 00:15:41,519 WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. 452 00:15:41,521 --> 00:15:42,754 A CAB CAME TO HER HOUSE AND 453 00:15:42,756 --> 00:15:46,991 A CAB CAME TO HER HOUSE AND PICKED US UP. 454 00:15:46,993 --> 00:15:48,359 PICKED US UP. AND I JUST REMEMBER GOING OVER 455 00:15:48,361 --> 00:15:49,093 AND I JUST REMEMBER GOING OVER THE BRIDGE AT THAT TIME. 456 00:15:49,095 --> 00:15:49,694 THE BRIDGE AT THAT TIME. IT WAS, LIKE, ALMOST LIKE AN 457 00:15:49,696 --> 00:15:51,229 IT WAS, LIKE, ALMOST LIKE AN AWESTRUCK OF -- JUST THE NICE 458 00:15:55,969 --> 00:15:56,534 THE OCEAN WAS ON THE LEFT AND ALL THE STREETS WERE ON THE 459 00:15:56,536 --> 00:15:58,536 ALL THE STREETS WERE ON THE RIGHT. 460 00:15:58,538 --> 00:16:00,038 RIGHT. AND ONE OF THE STREET SIGNS 461 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,675 AND ONE OF THE STREET SIGNS SAID, "BRAVO." 462 00:16:03,677 --> 00:16:04,309 SAID, "BRAVO." AND I JUST REMEMBER REPEATING IT 463 00:16:04,311 --> 00:16:04,909 AND I JUST REMEMBER REPEATING IT IN MY HEAD OVER AND OVER AND 464 00:16:04,911 --> 00:16:07,312 IN MY HEAD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, LIKE, "BRAVO. 465 00:16:07,314 --> 00:16:08,346 OVER AGAIN, LIKE, "BRAVO. BRAVO." 466 00:16:08,348 --> 00:16:08,913 BRAVO." AND I WAS JUST THINKING OF, 467 00:16:08,915 --> 00:16:10,615 AND I WAS JUST THINKING OF, LIKE, MOVIE STARS. 468 00:16:10,617 --> 00:16:14,218 LIKE, MOVIE STARS. >> AS WE WERE GETTING CLOSER AND 469 00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:16,187 >> AS WE WERE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER IS WHEN I STARTED 470 00:16:16,189 --> 00:16:17,689 CLOSER IS WHEN I STARTED WONDERING, LIKE, WHERE ARE WE? 471 00:16:27,734 --> 00:16:28,399 THAT I WAS GOING TO, LIKE, A BUILDING OF A BUNCH OF OLD GUYS. 472 00:16:28,401 --> 00:16:29,834 BUILDING OF A BUNCH OF OLD GUYS. >> I WAS EXCITED BECAUSE THIS 473 00:16:29,836 --> 00:16:32,870 >> I WAS EXCITED BECAUSE THIS POPULAR GIRL'S TAKING ME INTO A 474 00:16:32,872 --> 00:16:34,539 POPULAR GIRL'S TAKING ME INTO A WHOLE OTHER WORLD THAT I HAD 475 00:16:34,541 --> 00:16:35,840 WHOLE OTHER WORLD THAT I HAD NEVER BEEN INTO. 476 00:16:35,842 --> 00:16:36,407 NEVER BEEN INTO. >> I STARTED TO GET REALLY, 477 00:16:36,409 --> 00:16:36,774 >> I STARTED TO GET REALLY, REALLY NERVOUS. 478 00:16:36,776 --> 00:16:37,909 REALLY NERVOUS. >> I WAS FREAKING OUT. 479 00:16:37,911 --> 00:16:40,345 >> I WAS FREAKING OUT. >> MY HEART WAS STARTING TO 480 00:16:40,347 --> 00:16:40,545 >> MY HEART WAS STARTING TO RACE. 481 00:16:40,547 --> 00:16:42,046 RACE. THAT FEELING YOU GET WHERE YOU 482 00:16:42,048 --> 00:16:44,382 THAT FEELING YOU GET WHERE YOU KNOW SOMETHING BAD IS ABOUT TO 483 00:16:44,384 --> 00:16:46,551 KNOW SOMETHING BAD IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. 484 00:16:46,553 --> 00:16:47,085 HAPPEN. IT'S LIKE A CAR ACCIDENT. 485 00:16:47,087 --> 00:16:49,554 IT'S LIKE A CAR ACCIDENT. YOU SEE IT COMING, BUT YOU CAN'T 486 00:16:49,556 --> 00:16:50,755 YOU SEE IT COMING, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO 487 00:16:50,757 --> 00:16:52,357 STOP ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING 488 00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:52,790 HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO HIT YOU. 489 00:16:56,512 --> 00:17:02,450 >>> EPSTEIN'S HOUSE IN PALM BEACH, IT AT THE DEAD END OF A 490 00:17:02,452 --> 00:17:02,684 BEACH, IT AT THE DEAD END OF A STREET. 491 00:17:02,686 --> 00:17:03,451 STREET. THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE. 492 00:17:07,824 --> 00:17:09,457 CAB. >> THERE WAS A GUY OUTSIDE 493 00:17:09,459 --> 00:17:10,258 >> THERE WAS A GUY OUTSIDE TRIMMING FLOWERS. 494 00:17:10,260 --> 00:17:13,928 TRIMMING FLOWERS. BUT NOBODY LOOKED UP. 495 00:17:13,930 --> 00:17:14,595 BUT NOBODY LOOKED UP. NOBODY REALLY CARED THAT THERE 496 00:17:14,597 --> 00:17:15,963 NOBODY REALLY CARED THAT THERE WERE YOUNG GIRLS WALKING INTO 497 00:17:15,965 --> 00:17:16,764 WERE YOUNG GIRLS WALKING INTO THE BACK OF THIS OLD MAN'S 498 00:17:16,766 --> 00:17:19,300 THE BACK OF THIS OLD MAN'S MANSION. 499 00:17:19,302 --> 00:17:21,803 MANSION. WE WERE LET IN BY A COUPLE OF 500 00:17:21,805 --> 00:17:22,036 WE WERE LET IN BY A COUPLE OF LADIES. 501 00:17:22,038 --> 00:17:25,440 LADIES. TALL, BLONDE, TAN. 502 00:17:25,442 --> 00:17:26,007 TALL, BLONDE, TAN. >> WE WENT INTO THE KITCHEN. 503 00:17:26,009 --> 00:17:28,843 >> WE WENT INTO THE KITCHEN. WE STOOD THERE. 504 00:17:28,845 --> 00:17:30,578 WE STOOD THERE. I WAS VERY NERVOUS ON WHAT WAS 505 00:17:30,580 --> 00:17:34,282 I WAS VERY NERVOUS ON WHAT WAS GETTING READY TO HAPPEN. 506 00:17:34,284 --> 00:17:34,916 GETTING READY TO HAPPEN. >> WITH EACH OF THESE UNDERAGE 507 00:17:34,918 --> 00:17:37,418 >> WITH EACH OF THESE UNDERAGE MINOR FEMALES THAT WERE BROUGHT 508 00:17:37,420 --> 00:17:38,653 MINOR FEMALES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO YOUR HOUSE, YOUR METHOD OF 509 00:17:38,655 --> 00:17:40,855 TO YOUR HOUSE, YOUR METHOD OF SEXUALLY EXPLOITING THEM WAS 510 00:17:40,857 --> 00:17:42,623 SEXUALLY EXPLOITING THEM WAS NEARLY IDENTICAL, IS THAT 511 00:17:42,625 --> 00:17:50,064 NEARLY IDENTICAL, IS THAT CORRECT? 512 00:17:50,066 --> 00:17:50,631 CORRECT? >> TYPICALLY, A FIRST-TIME 513 00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:51,299 >> TYPICALLY, A FIRST-TIME APPOINTMENT, THE GIRLS WOULD BE 514 00:17:51,301 --> 00:17:52,867 APPOINTMENT, THE GIRLS WOULD BE LED UP A STAIRWAY INTO JEFFREY 515 00:17:52,869 --> 00:17:56,871 LED UP A STAIRWAY INTO JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S BEDROOM. 516 00:17:56,873 --> 00:17:58,573 EPSTEIN'S BEDROOM. >> WE'RE GOING UP A SPIRAL 517 00:18:05,148 --> 00:18:06,748 SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING. JEFFREY'S GOING TO BE IN THERE. 518 00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:10,685 JEFFREY'S GOING TO BE IN THERE. HE'S GOING TO BE ON THE PHONE. 519 00:18:10,687 --> 00:18:14,589 HE'S GOING TO BE ON THE PHONE. JUST DO WHAT HE ASKS. 520 00:18:14,591 --> 00:18:16,858 JUST DO WHAT HE ASKS. >> ALL I KEPT LOOKING AT WAS THE 521 00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:18,593 >> ALL I KEPT LOOKING AT WAS THE MASSAGE TABLE WHEN WE WALKED IN. 522 00:18:18,595 --> 00:18:22,597 MASSAGE TABLE WHEN WE WALKED IN. >> JEFFREY JUST COMES IN AND 523 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:24,398 >> JEFFREY JUST COMES IN AND LAYS ON THE MASSAGE TABLE. 524 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,601 LAYS ON THE MASSAGE TABLE. HE JUST SEEMED LIKE HE WAS A 525 00:18:26,603 --> 00:18:28,369 HE JUST SEEMED LIKE HE WAS A BUSINESS GUY. 526 00:18:28,371 --> 00:18:28,870 BUSINESS GUY. WELL FIT. 527 00:18:28,872 --> 00:18:29,971 WELL FIT. CLEAN-CUT. 528 00:18:29,973 --> 00:18:30,571 CLEAN-CUT. MIGHT'VE PLAYED TENNIS. 529 00:18:30,573 --> 00:18:32,006 MIGHT'VE PLAYED TENNIS. >> HE WOULD INSTRUCT THE NEW 530 00:18:32,008 --> 00:18:33,608 >> HE WOULD INSTRUCT THE NEW GIRL AS TO HOW HE WANTED TO BE 531 00:18:33,610 --> 00:18:34,575 GIRL AS TO HOW HE WANTED TO BE MASSAGED. 532 00:18:38,281 --> 00:18:41,482 LEGITIMATE MASSAGE, IT'S NOT GOING TO SET OFF ANY RADAR. 533 00:18:41,484 --> 00:18:42,617 GOING TO SET OFF ANY RADAR. IT'S GOING TO SEEM MAYBE A 534 00:18:42,619 --> 00:18:44,519 IT'S GOING TO SEEM MAYBE A LITTLE WEIRD OR UNCONVENTIONAL, 535 00:18:44,521 --> 00:18:45,453 LITTLE WEIRD OR UNCONVENTIONAL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THREATENING 536 00:18:45,455 --> 00:18:50,291 BUT NOT NECESSARILY THREATENING OR DANGEROUS. 537 00:18:50,293 --> 00:18:50,892 OR DANGEROUS. >> THEY TURNED ON THAT TIMER 538 00:18:50,894 --> 00:18:52,860 >> THEY TURNED ON THAT TIMER WHEN I GOT IN THERE. 539 00:18:52,862 --> 00:18:54,595 WHEN I GOT IN THERE. AND SO I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, HE'S 540 00:18:54,597 --> 00:18:57,732 AND SO I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, HE'S JUST GOING TO BE LYING JUST LIKE 541 00:18:57,734 --> 00:18:58,232 JUST GOING TO BE LYING JUST LIKE THIS, NOT A BIG DEAL." 542 00:18:58,234 --> 00:19:01,903 THIS, NOT A BIG DEAL." >> FROM THE MOMENT THAT HE 543 00:19:01,905 --> 00:19:02,570 >> FROM THE MOMENT THAT HE WALKED INTO THE ROOM, IT WAS 544 00:19:02,572 --> 00:19:03,971 WALKED INTO THE ROOM, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE AN EXCITEMENT, LIKE, 545 00:19:03,973 --> 00:19:04,939 ALMOST LIKE AN EXCITEMENT, LIKE, A WEIRD GRIN ON HIS FACE THAT HE 546 00:19:04,941 --> 00:19:06,607 A WEIRD GRIN ON HIS FACE THAT HE KNEW HE WAS DOING SOMETHING HE 547 00:19:06,609 --> 00:19:09,410 KNEW HE WAS DOING SOMETHING HE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DO. 548 00:19:09,412 --> 00:19:12,280 WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DO. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY IN MY 549 00:19:12,282 --> 00:19:13,014 THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY IN MY MIND THAT HE COULD HAVE THOUGHT 550 00:19:13,016 --> 00:19:16,317 MIND THAT HE COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT I WAS 18. 551 00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:16,951 THAT I WAS 18. >> I WAS REALLY LITTLE AND SHORT 552 00:19:16,953 --> 00:19:22,957 >> I WAS REALLY LITTLE AND SHORT AND TINY. 553 00:19:22,959 --> 00:19:24,258 AND TINY. I HAD BRACES. 554 00:19:24,260 --> 00:19:26,594 I HAD BRACES. I LOOKED LIKE A INNOCENT 555 00:19:29,966 --> 00:19:30,598 >> WITH RESPECT TO EACH OF THESE MINOR GIRLS, ISN'T IT TRUE THAT 556 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,569 MINOR GIRLS, ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU ORDERED EACH OF THEM TO GET 557 00:19:34,571 --> 00:19:38,272 YOU ORDERED EACH OF THEM TO GET NAKED TO GIVE YOU A MASSAGE? 558 00:19:38,274 --> 00:19:38,873 NAKED TO GIVE YOU A MASSAGE? >> WHEN HE CAME IN, I HAD TO 559 00:19:38,875 --> 00:19:39,874 >> WHEN HE CAME IN, I HAD TO TAKE MY BRA OFF AND MY PANTS 560 00:19:39,876 --> 00:19:40,875 TAKE MY BRA OFF AND MY PANTS OFF. 561 00:19:40,877 --> 00:19:41,509 OFF. I WAS ALLOWED TO STAND THERE IN 562 00:19:41,511 --> 00:19:42,577 I WAS ALLOWED TO STAND THERE IN MY UNDERWEAR. 563 00:19:42,579 --> 00:19:45,580 MY UNDERWEAR. THAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME. 564 00:19:45,582 --> 00:19:48,816 THAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME. >> HE TOLD ME TO DO A SPIN 565 00:19:48,818 --> 00:19:50,618 >> HE TOLD ME TO DO A SPIN AROUND, SO, HE WAS JUST KIND OF 566 00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:53,621 AROUND, SO, HE WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE STARING AT ME LIKE A 567 00:19:53,623 --> 00:19:55,623 LIKE STARING AT ME LIKE A WEIRD -- WEIRD OLD GUY WOULD, 568 00:19:55,625 --> 00:19:57,391 WEIRD -- WEIRD OLD GUY WOULD, JUST KIND OF LIKE I WAS, LIKE, A 569 00:19:57,393 --> 00:20:00,895 JUST KIND OF LIKE I WAS, LIKE, A FUN TOY FOR HIM. 570 00:20:00,897 --> 00:20:02,597 FUN TOY FOR HIM. >> HE OPENED HIS TOWEL AND HE 571 00:20:10,573 --> 00:20:12,173 WHAT TO DO, LIKE, "PULL MY NIPPLES HARDER." 572 00:20:12,175 --> 00:20:12,740 NIPPLES HARDER." LIKE, "COME CLOSER TO ME." 573 00:20:12,742 --> 00:20:14,609 LIKE, "COME CLOSER TO ME." >> AND HE WAS TOUCHING MY 574 00:20:14,611 --> 00:20:16,944 >> AND HE WAS TOUCHING MY BREASTS. 575 00:20:16,946 --> 00:20:18,246 BREASTS. AND I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME, 576 00:20:18,248 --> 00:20:20,114 AND I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME, YOU'RE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN. 577 00:20:20,116 --> 00:20:21,849 YOU'RE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN. AND AT THIS TIME, I DID NOT 578 00:20:21,851 --> 00:20:27,521 AND AT THIS TIME, I DID NOT THINK I WAS A WOMAN AT ALL. 579 00:20:27,523 --> 00:20:29,056 THINK I WAS A WOMAN AT ALL. I JUST THOUGHT THAT I WAS, LIKE, 580 00:20:29,058 --> 00:20:30,591 I JUST THOUGHT THAT I WAS, LIKE, A GIRL. 581 00:20:30,593 --> 00:20:31,225 A GIRL. >> THIS PART OF THE PROCESS IS 582 00:20:31,227 --> 00:20:34,562 >> THIS PART OF THE PROCESS IS ALMOST IDENTICAL EVERY SINGLE 583 00:20:34,564 --> 00:20:35,863 ALMOST IDENTICAL EVERY SINGLE TIME. 584 00:20:35,865 --> 00:20:36,497 TIME. HE WOULD TYPICALLY FLIP OVER AND 585 00:20:36,499 --> 00:20:38,699 HE WOULD TYPICALLY FLIP OVER AND HE WOULD START MASTURBATING 586 00:20:38,701 --> 00:20:39,033 HE WOULD START MASTURBATING HIMSELF. 587 00:20:39,035 --> 00:20:42,570 HIMSELF. >> HE JUST WANTED ME TO, LIKE, 588 00:20:42,572 --> 00:20:44,305 >> HE JUST WANTED ME TO, LIKE, STAND NEXT TO HIM AS HE, LIKE, 589 00:20:44,307 --> 00:20:44,939 STAND NEXT TO HIM AS HE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, TOUCHED ME AND STUFF 590 00:20:44,941 --> 00:20:46,607 YOU KNOW, TOUCHED ME AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 591 00:20:46,609 --> 00:20:47,575 LIKE THAT. WHEN YOU'RE 14 AND YOU GO 592 00:20:47,577 --> 00:20:48,643 WHEN YOU'RE 14 AND YOU GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 593 00:20:48,645 --> 00:20:49,977 THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH TO TAKE IN 594 00:20:53,683 --> 00:20:57,451 ALL AT ONCE. >> I WAS LIKE -- THIS IS NOT 595 00:20:57,453 --> 00:20:57,885 >> I WAS LIKE -- THIS IS NOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 596 00:20:57,887 --> 00:20:59,020 HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. SI WAS DEFINITELY NERVOUS. 597 00:20:59,022 --> 00:21:00,321 SI WAS DEFINITELY NERVOUS. THE WHOLE THING WAS JUST -- NOT 598 00:21:00,323 --> 00:21:02,590 THE WHOLE THING WAS JUST -- NOT A GOOD FEELING. 599 00:21:02,592 --> 00:21:07,862 A GOOD FEELING. >> HE STARTED TRYING TO RUB HIS 600 00:21:07,864 --> 00:21:09,964 >> HE STARTED TRYING TO RUB HIS FINGER ALONG MY UNDERWEAR LINE. 601 00:21:09,966 --> 00:21:11,799 FINGER ALONG MY UNDERWEAR LINE. WHEN I TOLD HIM NO, HE JUST TOLD 602 00:21:11,801 --> 00:21:13,167 WHEN I TOLD HIM NO, HE JUST TOLD ME, "IF YOU TAKE THEM OFF, POINT 603 00:21:13,169 --> 00:21:14,669 ME, "IF YOU TAKE THEM OFF, POINT TOUCH YOU." 604 00:21:14,671 --> 00:21:15,569 TOUCH YOU." SO, I TOOK MY UNDERWEAR OFF AND 605 00:21:15,571 --> 00:21:17,004 SO, I TOOK MY UNDERWEAR OFF AND I ENDED UP BEING COMPLETELY 606 00:21:17,006 --> 00:21:19,206 I ENDED UP BEING COMPLETELY NAKED IN HIS ROOM. 607 00:21:19,208 --> 00:21:22,610 NAKED IN HIS ROOM. >> HE TRIED, LIKE, PUSHING MY 608 00:21:22,612 --> 00:21:24,011 >> HE TRIED, LIKE, PUSHING MY PANTIES TO THE SIDE. 609 00:21:24,013 --> 00:21:26,347 PANTIES TO THE SIDE. WHEN HE TRIED TO DO THAT, I 610 00:21:26,349 --> 00:21:29,016 WHEN HE TRIED TO DO THAT, I JUST -- I BACKED UP AND I WENT 611 00:21:29,018 --> 00:21:34,588 JUST -- I BACKED UP AND I WENT LIKE THIS AND I WAS LIKE, WHOA. 612 00:21:40,563 --> 00:21:44,165 TERROR ON MY FACE. AND I'M LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, IS 613 00:21:44,167 --> 00:21:46,000 AND I'M LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, IS THIS BUZZER GOING TO GO OFF AT 614 00:21:46,002 --> 00:21:46,968 THIS BUZZER GOING TO GO OFF AT ANY POINT? 615 00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:48,336 ANY POINT? BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHEN 616 00:21:48,338 --> 00:21:50,638 BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHEN ALL OF THIS NIGHTMARE IS GOING 617 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,575 ALL OF THIS NIGHTMARE IS GOING TO BE OVER WITH. 618 00:21:54,577 --> 00:21:58,079 TO BE OVER WITH. >> HE WAS VERY GOOD ABOUT 619 00:21:58,081 --> 00:21:59,847 >> HE WAS VERY GOOD ABOUT GAUGING WHERE THE LINE WAS. 620 00:21:59,849 --> 00:22:01,048 GAUGING WHERE THE LINE WAS. HOW FAR HE COULD GET THIS PERSON 621 00:22:01,050 --> 00:22:01,682 HOW FAR HE COULD GET THIS PERSON TO GO. 622 00:22:01,684 --> 00:22:05,019 TO GO. IF SHE REMOVED HER TOP, ALL 623 00:22:05,021 --> 00:22:07,655 IF SHE REMOVED HER TOP, ALL RIGHT, TAKE OFF YOUR BOTTOMS. 624 00:22:07,657 --> 00:22:08,689 RIGHT, TAKE OFF YOUR BOTTOMS. >> I COULDN'T RUN. 625 00:22:08,691 --> 00:22:09,256 >> I COULDN'T RUN. I COULDN'T LEAVE. 626 00:22:09,258 --> 00:22:10,591 I COULDN'T LEAVE. IT'S NOT THAT I COULDN'T. 627 00:22:10,593 --> 00:22:11,192 IT'S NOT THAT I COULDN'T. BECAUSE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I 628 00:22:11,194 --> 00:22:12,927 BECAUSE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I COULD. 629 00:22:12,929 --> 00:22:13,894 COULD. BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO 630 00:22:13,896 --> 00:22:14,395 BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SAVE MYSELF. 631 00:22:14,397 --> 00:22:14,996 SAVE MYSELF. >> I JUST FELT LIKE I HAD TO. 632 00:22:14,998 --> 00:22:16,697 >> I JUST FELT LIKE I HAD TO. I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPTION. 633 00:22:16,699 --> 00:22:18,265 I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPTION. LIKE, WHAT WAS I GOING TO DO? 634 00:22:18,267 --> 00:22:18,866 LIKE, WHAT WAS I GOING TO DO? I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT ROOM 635 00:22:18,868 --> 00:22:20,067 I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT ROOM WITH HIM. 636 00:22:20,069 --> 00:22:22,436 WITH HIM. LIKE, WHERE WAS I GOING TO GO? 637 00:22:22,438 --> 00:22:23,871 LIKE, WHERE WAS I GOING TO GO? IF I SCREAMED WHO WAS GOING TO 638 00:22:23,873 --> 00:22:26,607 IF I SCREAMED WHO WAS GOING TO HEAR ME? 639 00:22:26,609 --> 00:22:28,175 HEAR ME? WHO WAS GOING TO COME? 640 00:22:28,177 --> 00:22:29,110 WHO WAS GOING TO COME? I FELT VERY FROZEN. 641 00:22:29,112 --> 00:22:29,944 I FELT VERY FROZEN. >> HE WAS AN OLDER MAN WITH A 642 00:22:29,946 --> 00:22:31,679 >> HE WAS AN OLDER MAN WITH A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY WERE 643 00:22:31,681 --> 00:22:31,979 LOT OF MONEY AND THEY WERE CHILDREN. 644 00:22:31,981 --> 00:22:33,481 CHILDREN. AND SO, YOU HAVE THIS AUTOMATIC 645 00:22:33,483 --> 00:22:34,715 AND SO, YOU HAVE THIS AUTOMATIC SORT OF PULL TO OBEY, TO FOLLOW 646 00:22:38,588 --> 00:22:40,654 INSTRUCTIONS. >> BEING IN SUCH AN EXPENSIVE 647 00:22:40,656 --> 00:22:41,255 >> BEING IN SUCH AN EXPENSIVE HOUSE SHOWED YOU THAT HE WAS 648 00:22:41,257 --> 00:22:44,558 HOUSE SHOWED YOU THAT HE WAS ABOVE US ALREADY. 649 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,828 ABOVE US ALREADY. MADE ME FEEL LIKE, IF I WOULD 650 00:22:51,234 --> 00:22:53,100 GOING TO BELIEVE ME. >> HONESTLY, I WAS TERRIFIED. 651 00:22:53,102 --> 00:22:55,636 >> HONESTLY, I WAS TERRIFIED. I WAS LIVING SECOND BY SECOND, 652 00:23:02,478 --> 00:23:04,178 >> AND I'M 1,000% SURE HE KNEW THAT I WAS SCARED TO DEATH TO BE 653 00:23:04,180 --> 00:23:05,112 THAT I WAS SCARED TO DEATH TO BE THERE. 654 00:23:05,114 --> 00:23:10,618 THERE. AND I THINK HE LIKED IT. 655 00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:11,218 AND I THINK HE LIKED IT. >> AND THEN, LIKE, THE TIMER 656 00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:14,588 >> AND THEN, LIKE, THE TIMER WENT OFF. 657 00:23:22,565 --> 00:23:23,197 TOWEL AND WALKED OUT. IT WAS VERY, LIKE, HE WAS DONE. 658 00:23:23,199 --> 00:23:25,166 IT WAS VERY, LIKE, HE WAS DONE. BYE. 659 00:23:25,168 --> 00:23:26,567 BYE. >> I REMEMBER JUST, LIKE, 660 00:23:26,569 --> 00:23:27,401 >> I REMEMBER JUST, LIKE, WALKING DOWN THE STAIRS AFTER IT 661 00:23:27,403 --> 00:23:28,936 WALKING DOWN THE STAIRS AFTER IT WAS ALL DONE AND JUST BEING, 662 00:23:28,938 --> 00:23:32,773 WAS ALL DONE AND JUST BEING, LIKE, JUST FEELING SO DISGUSTING 663 00:23:32,775 --> 00:23:33,107 LIKE, JUST FEELING SO DISGUSTING AND SHAMEFUL. 664 00:23:33,109 --> 00:23:34,508 AND SHAMEFUL. BUT -- AND THEN IN THE SAME WAY, 665 00:23:34,510 --> 00:23:38,579 BUT -- AND THEN IN THE SAME WAY, YOU KNOW, I HAD $200 THAT I 666 00:23:38,581 --> 00:23:40,481 YOU KNOW, I HAD $200 THAT I DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE. 667 00:23:40,483 --> 00:23:41,115 DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE. >> HE WAS LIKE, "I WOULD LOVE TO 668 00:23:41,117 --> 00:23:42,917 >> HE WAS LIKE, "I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU AGAIN." 669 00:23:42,919 --> 00:23:44,185 SEE YOU AGAIN." AND I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, I 670 00:23:44,187 --> 00:23:46,587 AND I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, I WAS LIKE, I AM NOT COMING BACK 671 00:23:46,589 --> 00:23:48,489 WAS LIKE, I AM NOT COMING BACK HERE EVER AGAIN. 672 00:23:48,491 --> 00:23:49,056 HERE EVER AGAIN. >> I FELT DISGUSTING WHEN I 673 00:23:49,058 --> 00:23:49,256 >> I FELT DISGUSTING WHEN I LEFT. 674 00:23:49,258 --> 00:23:51,058 LEFT. HE WAS VERY FORCEFUL. 675 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:54,595 HE WAS VERY FORCEFUL. I HAD NEVER BEEN TOUCHED LIKE 676 00:23:54,597 --> 00:23:56,297 I HAD NEVER BEEN TOUCHED LIKE THAT BY ANYBODY. 677 00:23:56,299 --> 00:23:58,599 THAT BY ANYBODY. NOT A BOY THAT I LIKED, NOR 678 00:23:58,601 --> 00:24:02,570 NOT A BOY THAT I LIKED, NOR ANYBODY ELSE. 679 00:24:02,572 --> 00:24:03,170 ANYBODY ELSE. >> I CRIED THE WHOLE WAY HOME. 680 00:24:03,172 --> 00:24:07,274 >> I CRIED THE WHOLE WAY HOME. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT, I'M 681 00:24:07,276 --> 00:24:10,578 I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT, I'M NEVER GOING TO LET ANYBODY TOUCH 682 00:24:10,580 --> 00:24:14,582 NEVER GOING TO LET ANYBODY TOUCH ME AGAIN. 683 00:24:20,123 --> 00:24:22,590 I'M HYPERVENTILATING ALMOST. CRYING. 684 00:24:22,592 --> 00:24:25,860 CRYING. AND THE POPULAR GIRL TURNS TO ME 685 00:24:25,862 --> 00:24:31,098 AND THE POPULAR GIRL TURNS TO ME AND TELLS ME TO "SHUT THE 686 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,701 AND TELLS ME TO "SHUT THE [ BLEEP ] UP, YOU JUST MADE 687 00:24:33,703 --> 00:24:34,235 [ BLEEP ] UP, YOU JUST MADE $200." 688 00:24:34,237 --> 00:24:34,802 $200." >> THE INVESTIGATION REALLY 689 00:24:34,804 --> 00:24:35,436 >> THE INVESTIGATION REALLY STARTS AS A RESULT OF THIS ONE 690 00:24:35,438 --> 00:24:38,572 STARTS AS A RESULT OF THIS ONE CALL FROM A CONCERNED PARENT. 691 00:24:38,574 --> 00:24:39,874 CALL FROM A CONCERNED PARENT. >> THERE WAS AN INCIDENT THAT 692 00:24:39,876 --> 00:24:41,142 >> THERE WAS AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED WITH ONE OF MY 693 00:24:41,144 --> 00:24:42,143 OCCURRED WITH ONE OF MY STEP-DAUGHTERS. 694 00:24:42,145 --> 00:24:42,710 STEP-DAUGHTERS. >> ANY INFORMATION ON THIS 695 00:24:42,712 --> 00:24:46,580 >> ANY INFORMATION ON THIS GENTLEMAN? 696 00:24:46,582 --> 00:24:47,214 GENTLEMAN? >> ALL I KNOW HE'S GOT MONEY OUT 697 00:24:47,216 --> 00:24:50,217 >> ALL I KNOW HE'S GOT MONEY OUT THE YING-YANG THAT HE CAN DO 698 00:24:50,219 --> 00:24:51,652 THE YING-YANG THAT HE CAN DO WHATEVER WITH MONEY AND HE 699 00:24:51,654 --> 00:24:53,404 WHATEVER WITH MONEY AND HE BASICALLY DOES THIS WITH A LOT 700 00:24:57,776 --> 00:25:04,448 ♪ 701 00:25:05,784 --> 00:25:09,720 >>> HELLO? >> IT'S MARCH 2005, AND THE PALM 702 00:25:09,722 --> 00:25:12,957 >> IT'S MARCH 2005, AND THE PALM BEACH POLICE HEAR FROM A 703 00:25:12,959 --> 00:25:13,757 BEACH POLICE HEAR FROM A CONCERNED PARENT. 704 00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:15,559 CONCERNED PARENT. >> IT WAS AN INCIDENT THAT 705 00:25:15,561 --> 00:25:16,193 >> IT WAS AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED MAYBE THREE, THREE AND 706 00:25:16,195 --> 00:25:17,728 OCCURRED MAYBE THREE, THREE AND A HALF WEEKS AGO WITH ONE OF MY 707 00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:19,797 A HALF WEEKS AGO WITH ONE OF MY STEP-DAUGHTERS. 708 00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:20,431 STEP-DAUGHTERS. >> THIS WOMAN TELLS POLICE THAT 709 00:25:20,433 --> 00:25:22,399 >> THIS WOMAN TELLS POLICE THAT HER STEP-DAUGHTER HAS A LOT OF 710 00:25:22,401 --> 00:25:23,534 HER STEP-DAUGHTER HAS A LOT OF MONEY ON HER AND SHE CAN'T 711 00:25:23,536 --> 00:25:25,703 MONEY ON HER AND SHE CAN'T EXPLAIN WHERE IT CAME FROM. 712 00:25:25,705 --> 00:25:28,672 EXPLAIN WHERE IT CAME FROM. >> SHE HAD OVER $300 ON HER. 713 00:25:28,674 --> 00:25:29,707 >> SHE HAD OVER $300 ON HER. >> SO HER FAMILY BECOMES VERY 714 00:25:29,709 --> 00:25:31,809 >> SO HER FAMILY BECOMES VERY SUSPICIOUS ABOUT THE FACT THAT 715 00:25:31,811 --> 00:25:32,409 SUSPICIOUS ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE HAS ALL THIS CASH. 716 00:25:32,411 --> 00:25:33,777 SHE HAS ALL THIS CASH. >> SHE ULTIMATELY COMES CLEAN 717 00:25:33,779 --> 00:25:36,580 >> SHE ULTIMATELY COMES CLEAN ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. 718 00:25:36,582 --> 00:25:38,282 ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. HER DAUGHTER HAD BEEN PAID SOME 719 00:25:38,284 --> 00:25:40,384 HER DAUGHTER HAD BEEN PAID SOME MONEY TO GO TO A HOUSE ON PALM 720 00:25:40,386 --> 00:25:44,421 MONEY TO GO TO A HOUSE ON PALM BEACH AND PERFORM A MASSAGE ON 721 00:25:44,423 --> 00:25:45,256 BEACH AND PERFORM A MASSAGE ON AN OLDER MAN. 722 00:25:45,258 --> 00:25:47,424 AN OLDER MAN. SHE EVENTUALLY ADMITTED THAT 723 00:25:47,426 --> 00:25:49,493 SHE EVENTUALLY ADMITTED THAT THERE WAS UNDRESSING INVOLVED 724 00:25:49,495 --> 00:25:50,427 THERE WAS UNDRESSING INVOLVED AND SOME TYPE OF INAPPROPRIATE 725 00:25:50,429 --> 00:25:52,029 AND SOME TYPE OF INAPPROPRIATE CONTACT. 726 00:25:52,031 --> 00:25:54,598 CONTACT. >> I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF THERE 727 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,600 >> I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION OR -- 728 00:25:56,602 --> 00:25:58,502 WAS AN INVESTIGATION OR -- >> WELL THIS IS THE FIRST I AM 729 00:25:58,504 --> 00:26:00,604 >> WELL THIS IS THE FIRST I AM HEARING OF IT. 730 00:26:00,606 --> 00:26:02,973 HEARING OF IT. I'M GOING TO INITIATE THIS 731 00:26:02,975 --> 00:26:05,075 I'M GOING TO INITIATE THIS REPORT AND SEE IF WE CAN 732 00:26:05,077 --> 00:26:05,576 REPORT AND SEE IF WE CAN ESTABLISH JURISDICTION. 733 00:26:05,578 --> 00:26:05,776 ESTABLISH JURISDICTION. >> OK. 734 00:26:05,778 --> 00:26:07,011 >> OK. >> MONDAY MORNING THEY TOLD ME 735 00:26:07,013 --> 00:26:07,711 >> MONDAY MORNING THEY TOLD ME ABOUT THE CASE. 736 00:26:07,713 --> 00:26:09,079 ABOUT THE CASE. >> THE NEXT THING THAT NEEDS TO 737 00:26:09,081 --> 00:26:12,082 >> THE NEXT THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS POLICE WILL INTERVIEW 738 00:26:12,084 --> 00:26:12,549 HAPPEN IS POLICE WILL INTERVIEW THAT 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL. 739 00:26:12,551 --> 00:26:13,717 THAT 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL. >> YOU SAID THAT YOU STRADDLED 740 00:26:13,719 --> 00:26:14,752 >> YOU SAID THAT YOU STRADDLED HIM? 741 00:26:14,754 --> 00:26:16,320 HIM? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? 742 00:26:16,322 --> 00:26:19,290 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> I WAS SITTING ON HIS BUTT, 743 00:26:19,292 --> 00:26:22,459 >> I WAS SITTING ON HIS BUTT, BUT A LITTLE BIT ABOVE HIS BUTT. 744 00:26:22,461 --> 00:26:23,560 BUT A LITTLE BIT ABOVE HIS BUTT. I HAD AN UNDERWEAR AND A BRA ON. 745 00:26:23,562 --> 00:26:25,663 I HAD AN UNDERWEAR AND A BRA ON. >> THE FIRST VICTIM THAT CAME 746 00:26:25,665 --> 00:26:26,196 >> THE FIRST VICTIM THAT CAME IN, WE TOOK THE STATEMENT. 747 00:26:26,198 --> 00:26:26,830 IN, WE TOOK THE STATEMENT. AND THEN SHE SAID THERE ARE, YOU 748 00:26:26,832 --> 00:26:31,468 AND THEN SHE SAID THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY OTHERS INVOLVED. 749 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:33,771 KNOW, PROBABLY OTHERS INVOLVED. IMMEDIATELY, WE BEGAN 750 00:26:33,773 --> 00:26:37,007 IMMEDIATELY, WE BEGAN SURVEILLING EPSTEIN'S HOUSE TO 751 00:26:37,009 --> 00:26:37,608 SURVEILLING EPSTEIN'S HOUSE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE 752 00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:38,409 SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE OTHER VICTIMS. 753 00:26:38,411 --> 00:26:42,446 OTHER VICTIMS. WE HAD 24-HOUR SURVEILLANCE. 754 00:26:42,448 --> 00:26:44,415 WE HAD 24-HOUR SURVEILLANCE. >> CERTAIN OTHER TECHNIQUES THEY 755 00:26:44,417 --> 00:26:48,485 >> CERTAIN OTHER TECHNIQUES THEY USED WERE TRASH PULLS. 756 00:26:48,487 --> 00:26:49,720 USED WERE TRASH PULLS. >> THERE IS A GREAT DEAL TO BE 757 00:26:49,722 --> 00:26:54,491 >> THERE IS A GREAT DEAL TO BE LEARNED FROM A PERSON'S TRASH. 758 00:26:54,493 --> 00:26:56,026 LEARNED FROM A PERSON'S TRASH. IT'S A METICULOUS AND NOT FUN 759 00:26:56,028 --> 00:26:56,427 IT'S A METICULOUS AND NOT FUN THING TO DO. 760 00:26:56,429 --> 00:26:57,728 THING TO DO. >> THEY UNCOVERED VERY VALUABLE 761 00:26:57,730 --> 00:26:58,162 >> THEY UNCOVERED VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION. 762 00:26:58,164 --> 00:27:00,431 INFORMATION. >> MESSAGE PADS WITH NAMES AND 763 00:27:00,433 --> 00:27:00,764 >> MESSAGE PADS WITH NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS. 764 00:27:00,766 --> 00:27:02,967 PHONE NUMBERS. >> YOU HAVE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS 765 00:27:02,969 --> 00:27:05,502 >> YOU HAVE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS CALL, SAYING, "HEY, I'M COMING 766 00:27:05,504 --> 00:27:08,472 CALL, SAYING, "HEY, I'M COMING OVER AT THIS TIME," OR, "I'M 767 00:27:08,474 --> 00:27:09,940 OVER AT THIS TIME," OR, "I'M BRINGING A NEW GIRL." 768 00:27:09,942 --> 00:27:13,777 BRINGING A NEW GIRL." THIS IS ONE THAT SAYS, "1:30 769 00:27:13,779 --> 00:27:14,311 THIS IS ONE THAT SAYS, "1:30 P.M., COURTNEY WILD. 770 00:27:14,313 --> 00:27:14,945 P.M., COURTNEY WILD. PLEASE CALL, SHE WOULD LIKE TO 771 00:27:14,947 --> 00:27:15,779 PLEASE CALL, SHE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU." 772 00:27:15,781 --> 00:27:17,348 SPEAK WITH YOU." THE NEXT PERSON THEY SPOKE TO 773 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:18,048 THE NEXT PERSON THEY SPOKE TO WAS THE GIRL THAT BROUGHT THE 774 00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:20,284 WAS THE GIRL THAT BROUGHT THE 14-YEAR-OLD THERE. 775 00:27:20,286 --> 00:27:20,918 14-YEAR-OLD THERE. >> FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW YOU'RE 776 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,419 >> FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW YOU'RE FREAKING OUT. 777 00:27:22,421 --> 00:27:24,154 FREAKING OUT. DON'T FREAK OUT. 778 00:27:24,156 --> 00:27:25,589 DON'T FREAK OUT. JUST RELAX, OKAY? 779 00:27:25,591 --> 00:27:25,823 JUST RELAX, OKAY? >> OKAY. 780 00:27:25,825 --> 00:27:26,423 >> OKAY. >> HOW MANY GIRLS HAVE YOU 781 00:27:26,425 --> 00:27:29,760 >> HOW MANY GIRLS HAVE YOU BROUGHT TO HIM? 782 00:27:29,762 --> 00:27:30,527 BROUGHT TO HIM? >> OH, A LOT. 783 00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:32,096 >> OH, A LOT. >> A LOT? 784 00:27:32,098 --> 00:27:35,799 >> A LOT? >> SHE ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT AS 785 00:27:35,801 --> 00:27:36,767 >> SHE ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT AS A RECRUIT AND THEN TURNED INTO A 786 00:27:36,769 --> 00:27:37,034 A RECRUIT AND THEN TURNED INTO A RECRUITER. 787 00:27:37,036 --> 00:27:37,668 RECRUITER. >> EVERY GIRL THAT MEETS JEFFREY 788 00:27:37,670 --> 00:27:40,971 >> EVERY GIRL THAT MEETS JEFFREY STARTS OFF WITH GIVING HIM A 789 00:27:40,973 --> 00:27:41,205 STARTS OFF WITH GIVING HIM A MASSAGE. 790 00:27:41,207 --> 00:27:44,074 MASSAGE. THE MORE YOU DO WITH HIM, THE 791 00:27:44,076 --> 00:27:44,441 THE MORE YOU DO WITH HIM, THE MORE YOU MAKE. 792 00:27:44,443 --> 00:27:45,709 MORE YOU MAKE. IF YOU LET HIM DO THINGS TO YOU, 793 00:27:45,711 --> 00:27:48,178 IF YOU LET HIM DO THINGS TO YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE. 794 00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:49,713 YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE. >> BY DO THINGS, YOU MEAN TOUCH 795 00:27:49,715 --> 00:27:50,447 >> BY DO THINGS, YOU MEAN TOUCH YOU? 796 00:27:50,449 --> 00:27:51,982 YOU? >> YEAH. 797 00:27:51,984 --> 00:27:52,549 >> YEAH. TOUCH YOU IN INAPPROPRIATE 798 00:27:52,551 --> 00:27:53,550 TOUCH YOU IN INAPPROPRIATE PLACES. 799 00:27:53,552 --> 00:27:54,151 PLACES. I WAS ONE OF THOSE GIRLS THAT 800 00:27:54,153 --> 00:27:55,953 I WAS ONE OF THOSE GIRLS THAT REFUSED TO DO THAT. 801 00:27:55,955 --> 00:27:57,554 REFUSED TO DO THAT. SO AFTER THAT, HE'S LIKE, YOU 802 00:27:57,556 --> 00:27:59,556 SO AFTER THAT, HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, LISTEN, I'LL PAY YOU 803 00:27:59,558 --> 00:28:01,892 KNOW WHAT, LISTEN, I'LL PAY YOU $200 FOR EVERY GIRL THAT YOU 804 00:28:01,894 --> 00:28:02,426 $200 FOR EVERY GIRL THAT YOU BRING TO ME. 805 00:28:02,428 --> 00:28:04,928 BRING TO ME. >> SHE WAS ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT 806 00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:05,295 >> SHE WAS ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE SCHEME WAS. 807 00:28:05,297 --> 00:28:05,929 THE SCHEME WAS. HOW IT WAS THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN 808 00:28:05,931 --> 00:28:07,831 HOW IT WAS THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS ACCESSING THIS NUMBER OF 809 00:28:07,833 --> 00:28:08,032 WAS ACCESSING THIS NUMBER OF GIRLS. 810 00:28:08,034 --> 00:28:10,267 GIRLS. >> SO IT'S LIKE A TRAIN, IT'S 811 00:28:10,269 --> 00:28:12,136 >> SO IT'S LIKE A TRAIN, IT'S LIKE, I INTRODUCED THEM TO ALL 812 00:28:12,138 --> 00:28:13,404 LIKE, I INTRODUCED THEM TO ALL MY FRIENDS AND THEN THEY BRING 813 00:28:13,406 --> 00:28:14,371 MY FRIENDS AND THEN THEY BRING HER FRIENDS, IT GOES ON AND ON 814 00:28:14,373 --> 00:28:15,639 HER FRIENDS, IT GOES ON AND ON LIKE THAT. 815 00:28:15,641 --> 00:28:17,808 LIKE THAT. >> WHO ELSE WAS UNDERAGE OUT OF 816 00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:19,710 >> WHO ELSE WAS UNDERAGE OUT OF ALL THESE? 817 00:28:19,712 --> 00:28:20,210 ALL THESE? >> UNDER 18? 818 00:28:20,212 --> 00:28:20,511 >> UNDER 18? ALL OF THEM. 819 00:28:20,513 --> 00:28:22,212 ALL OF THEM. >> ALL OF THEM? 820 00:28:22,214 --> 00:28:24,214 >> ALL OF THEM? >> HE TOLD ME, THE YOUNGER THE 821 00:28:24,216 --> 00:28:24,748 >> HE TOLD ME, THE YOUNGER THE BETTER. 822 00:28:24,750 --> 00:28:25,716 BETTER. >> DEFINITELY THE YOUNGER, THE 823 00:28:25,718 --> 00:28:29,720 >> DEFINITELY THE YOUNGER, THE BETTER. 824 00:28:29,722 --> 00:28:32,423 BETTER. >> JUST AS THAT WOMAN IN THE 825 00:28:32,425 --> 00:28:33,857 >> JUST AS THAT WOMAN IN THE POLICE VIDEO, COURTNEY WILD, AT 826 00:28:33,859 --> 00:28:36,160 POLICE VIDEO, COURTNEY WILD, AT AGE 14, SAYS THAT EPSTEIN 827 00:28:36,162 --> 00:28:36,727 AGE 14, SAYS THAT EPSTEIN CONVINCED HER TO GO OUT AND 828 00:28:36,729 --> 00:28:41,732 CONVINCED HER TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT OTHER GIRLS FOR HIM. 829 00:28:41,734 --> 00:28:42,766 RECRUIT OTHER GIRLS FOR HIM. >> BECAUSE I WAS SO YOUNG AND 830 00:28:42,768 --> 00:28:44,001 >> BECAUSE I WAS SO YOUNG AND BASICALLY HOMELESS, I FELT LIKE 831 00:28:44,003 --> 00:28:45,736 BASICALLY HOMELESS, I FELT LIKE IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO, 832 00:28:45,738 --> 00:28:46,970 IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO, LIKE, GET ON MY FEET. 833 00:28:46,972 --> 00:28:50,107 LIKE, GET ON MY FEET. >> THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT 834 00:28:53,712 --> 00:28:56,547 I LIVED IN WHEN I MET JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 835 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:57,614 EPSTEIN. IT IS A TRAILER PARK. 836 00:28:57,616 --> 00:28:59,083 IT IS A TRAILER PARK. I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THIS 837 00:28:59,085 --> 00:29:00,517 I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS. 838 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:01,752 NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS. IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE IT'S 839 00:29:01,754 --> 00:29:03,320 IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE IT'S CHANGED MUCH. 840 00:29:03,322 --> 00:29:06,457 CHANGED MUCH. BUT IT DEFINITELY IS JUST GIVING 841 00:29:06,459 --> 00:29:06,824 BUT IT DEFINITELY IS JUST GIVING ME ANXIETY. 842 00:29:06,826 --> 00:29:08,158 ME ANXIETY. IT JUST BRINGS BACK BEING THAT 843 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,661 IT JUST BRINGS BACK BEING THAT 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL. 844 00:29:12,364 --> 00:29:13,831 SOME OF THE GIRLS THAT I BROUGHT TO JEFFREY'S, YOU KNOW, LIVED 845 00:29:13,833 --> 00:29:20,571 TO JEFFREY'S, YOU KNOW, LIVED HERE, AS WELL. 846 00:29:20,573 --> 00:29:21,205 HERE, AS WELL. $200, $300 IS A LOT FOR SOMEBODY 847 00:29:21,207 --> 00:29:25,709 $200, $300 IS A LOT FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 848 00:29:25,711 --> 00:29:28,312 THAT'S FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. HE WOULD HAVE ONE OF HIS CARS 849 00:29:28,314 --> 00:29:28,946 HE WOULD HAVE ONE OF HIS CARS PICK US UP AND THEY WOULD PICK 850 00:29:32,485 --> 00:29:33,784 US UP AT THE FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE. 851 00:29:33,786 --> 00:29:36,453 NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE. HE JUST WANTED THE NEW FACE AND 852 00:29:36,455 --> 00:29:36,787 HE JUST WANTED THE NEW FACE AND THE NEW GIRL. 853 00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:39,056 THE NEW GIRL. THAT WAS HIS ADDICTION. 854 00:29:39,058 --> 00:29:40,624 THAT WAS HIS ADDICTION. AND IT WAS VERY MUCH LIKE AN 855 00:29:40,626 --> 00:29:40,891 AND IT WAS VERY MUCH LIKE AN ADDICTION. 856 00:29:40,893 --> 00:29:41,959 ADDICTION. HE WOULD JUST HOUND ME AND CALL 857 00:29:41,961 --> 00:29:44,194 HE WOULD JUST HOUND ME AND CALL ME AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY 858 00:29:46,432 --> 00:29:49,600 DO YOU HAVE ANY GIRLS? ONE DISTINCTIVE TIME I BROUGHT A 859 00:29:55,674 --> 00:29:56,507 DOWNSTAIRS, IT WAS CLEAR SHE WAS TRAUMATIZED. 860 00:29:56,509 --> 00:30:00,244 TRAUMATIZED. SOMETHING DEFINITELY HAPPENED 861 00:30:00,246 --> 00:30:00,811 SOMETHING DEFINITELY HAPPENED THAT SHE WAS NOT OKAY WITH. 862 00:30:00,813 --> 00:30:02,412 THAT SHE WAS NOT OKAY WITH. I HOLD SUCH AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF 863 00:30:02,414 --> 00:30:04,047 I HOLD SUCH AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF GUILT FOR BRINGING THESE GIRLS. 864 00:30:04,049 --> 00:30:05,015 GUILT FOR BRINGING THESE GIRLS. >> HE REALLY JUST HAD MIDDLE 865 00:30:05,017 --> 00:30:05,716 >> HE REALLY JUST HAD MIDDLE SCHOOLERS AND HIGH SCHOOLERS ALL 866 00:30:05,718 --> 00:30:07,885 SCHOOLERS AND HIGH SCHOOLERS ALL OVER PALM BEACH RUNNING AROUND 867 00:30:07,887 --> 00:30:12,222 OVER PALM BEACH RUNNING AROUND AND TRYING TO RECRUIT FOR HIM. 868 00:30:12,224 --> 00:30:13,724 AND TRYING TO RECRUIT FOR HIM. >> HE WAS THE CLIENT. 869 00:30:13,726 --> 00:30:15,859 >> HE WAS THE CLIENT. HE WAS THE PIMP. 870 00:30:15,861 --> 00:30:17,728 HE WAS THE PIMP. AND HE WAS THE PEDOPHILE. 871 00:30:17,730 --> 00:30:19,930 AND HE WAS THE PEDOPHILE. >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN COULD NOT 872 00:30:19,932 --> 00:30:20,697 >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS ALONE. 873 00:30:20,699 --> 00:30:21,765 HAVE DONE THIS ALONE. >> ACCORDING TO THE POLICE 874 00:30:26,639 --> 00:30:28,972 GIRLS MENTIONED EPSTEIN ASSISTANTS WHO WOULD GREET THEM 875 00:30:28,974 --> 00:30:29,706 ASSISTANTS WHO WOULD GREET THEM AT THE DOOR. 876 00:30:29,708 --> 00:30:31,308 AT THE DOOR. >> SARAH KELLEN WAS ONE OF THE 877 00:30:31,310 --> 00:30:33,777 >> SARAH KELLEN WAS ONE OF THE MAIN FEMALES THAT HE USED, THAT 878 00:30:33,779 --> 00:30:37,714 MAIN FEMALES THAT HE USED, THAT WAS AN ASSISTANT OF HIS. 879 00:30:37,716 --> 00:30:40,817 WAS AN ASSISTANT OF HIS. SARAH KELLEN WAS JEFFREY 880 00:30:40,819 --> 00:30:41,718 SARAH KELLEN WAS JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S MAIN SCHEDULER OF 881 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,886 EPSTEIN'S MAIN SCHEDULER OF MASSAGES. 882 00:30:42,888 --> 00:30:45,489 MASSAGES. >> I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH SARAH 883 00:30:45,491 --> 00:30:46,123 >> I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH SARAH MORE THAN I SPOKE WITH, REALLY, 884 00:30:46,125 --> 00:30:49,726 MORE THAN I SPOKE WITH, REALLY, JEFFREY. 885 00:30:49,728 --> 00:30:51,728 JEFFREY. >> HE WOULD LITERALLY HAVE THREE 886 00:30:51,730 --> 00:30:57,701 >> HE WOULD LITERALLY HAVE THREE A DAY, LINED UP, ALL THE TIME. 887 00:30:57,703 --> 00:31:00,804 A DAY, LINED UP, ALL THE TIME. 9:00, ANOTHER ONE AT 1:00 AND 888 00:31:00,806 --> 00:31:01,238 9:00, ANOTHER ONE AT 1:00 AND ANOTHER ONE AT 4:00. 889 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,838 ANOTHER ONE AT 4:00. >> HE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE STAFF 890 00:31:11,083 --> 00:31:13,951 HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? HE WAS DEFINITELY MOLESTING 891 00:31:13,953 --> 00:31:16,553 HE WAS DEFINITELY MOLESTING UNDERAGE GIRLS ON A DAILY BASIS, 892 00:31:16,555 --> 00:31:17,821 UNDERAGE GIRLS ON A DAILY BASIS, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY AND 893 00:31:17,823 --> 00:31:19,523 MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY AND EVERYBODY WAS OKAY WITH IT. 894 00:31:23,929 --> 00:31:25,729 THINK, WHY WAS I OKAY WITH IT? IT JUST BECAME NORMAL. 895 00:31:25,731 --> 00:31:27,297 IT JUST BECAME NORMAL. >> SHE IS INDOCTRINATED TO 896 00:31:27,299 --> 00:31:28,899 >> SHE IS INDOCTRINATED TO BELIEVE, WHEN SHE'S VERY YOUNG, 897 00:31:28,901 --> 00:31:31,168 BELIEVE, WHEN SHE'S VERY YOUNG, THAT THIS IS JUST WHAT THE RICH 898 00:31:31,170 --> 00:31:31,768 THAT THIS IS JUST WHAT THE RICH AND POWERFUL DO. 899 00:31:31,770 --> 00:31:35,138 AND POWERFUL DO. ONCE YOU TRAIN A 14-YEAR-OLD 900 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:37,708 ONCE YOU TRAIN A 14-YEAR-OLD THAT, THIS IS OKAY, YOU'VE 901 00:31:49,822 --> 00:31:52,489 BACK. >> WHEN YOU KNOW HOW TO PERFORM 902 00:31:52,491 --> 00:31:53,090 >> WHEN YOU KNOW HOW TO PERFORM SURVEILLANCE, YOU KNOW HOW TO 903 00:31:53,092 --> 00:31:53,757 SURVEILLANCE, YOU KNOW HOW TO PICK UP WHEN IT'S BEING 904 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,660 PICK UP WHEN IT'S BEING PERFORMED ON YOU. 905 00:31:56,662 --> 00:31:57,694 PERFORMED ON YOU. >> THE GIRLS WOULD CALL MY 906 00:31:57,696 --> 00:31:58,595 >> THE GIRLS WOULD CALL MY OFFICE SAYING, "I WAS JUST 907 00:31:58,597 --> 00:32:00,030 OFFICE SAYING, "I WAS JUST FOLLOWED HOME FROM SCHOOL 908 00:32:00,032 --> 00:32:00,631 FOLLOWED HOME FROM SCHOOL BY A BLACK LINCOLN NAVIGATOR 909 00:32:00,633 --> 00:32:02,766 BY A BLACK LINCOLN NAVIGATOR JUST GOING SLOWLY BEHIND ME." 910 00:32:09,157 --> 00:32:12,359 >>> DID YOU CARE ABOUT ANY OF THE UNDERAGE MINOR FEMALES AT 911 00:32:12,361 --> 00:32:14,227 THE UNDERAGE MINOR FEMALES AT THE TIME WHEN YOU WERE ENGAGING 912 00:32:14,229 --> 00:32:17,864 THE TIME WHEN YOU WERE ENGAGING IN SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH THEM? 913 00:32:27,743 --> 00:32:28,709 VICTIMS? >> THE WHOLE THING ABOUT IT 914 00:32:28,711 --> 00:32:30,143 >> THE WHOLE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS IF I DIDN'T GO TO 915 00:32:30,145 --> 00:32:30,777 IS, IS IF I DIDN'T GO TO JEFFREY, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A 916 00:32:30,779 --> 00:32:31,745 JEFFREY, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, MY LIFE WOULD HAVE GONE A 917 00:32:31,747 --> 00:32:35,749 DOUBT, MY LIFE WOULD HAVE GONE A DIFFERENT WAY. 918 00:32:35,751 --> 00:32:37,918 DIFFERENT WAY. >> YOU PUT A LOT OF GUILT ON 919 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,518 >> YOU PUT A LOT OF GUILT ON YOURSELF, NOT THE PERSON THAT 920 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,721 YOURSELF, NOT THE PERSON THAT DID IT TO YOU. 921 00:32:46,695 --> 00:32:47,294 DIFFERENT PERSON. I WAS LIVING IN A WORLD OF, 922 00:32:47,296 --> 00:32:49,429 I WAS LIVING IN A WORLD OF, LIKE, RAINBOWS, SUNSHINE, 923 00:32:49,431 --> 00:32:52,699 LIKE, RAINBOWS, SUNSHINE, UNICORNS, BUTTERFLIES. 924 00:32:52,701 --> 00:32:55,135 UNICORNS, BUTTERFLIES. AND THEN WHEN THIS HAPPENED, IT 925 00:32:55,137 --> 00:32:58,705 AND THEN WHEN THIS HAPPENED, IT WAS MORE LIKE, YOU CAN'T TRUST 926 00:33:02,611 --> 00:33:03,777 ANYBODY. I STARTED, LIKE, SLEEPING WITH 927 00:33:03,779 --> 00:33:05,178 I STARTED, LIKE, SLEEPING WITH PEOPLE, BECOMING VERY ANGRY. 928 00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:09,716 PEOPLE, BECOMING VERY ANGRY. I WAS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT 929 00:33:09,718 --> 00:33:10,751 I WAS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT USED PEOPLE AND MADE THEM FEEL 930 00:33:10,753 --> 00:33:12,853 USED PEOPLE AND MADE THEM FEEL LIKE [ BLEEP ]. 931 00:33:12,855 --> 00:33:15,756 LIKE [ BLEEP ]. >> SHE STARTED TO CHANGE QUITE A 932 00:33:24,366 --> 00:33:26,967 YOU KNOW? IT'S JUST A PHASE SHE'S GOING 933 00:33:26,969 --> 00:33:27,200 IT'S JUST A PHASE SHE'S GOING THROUGH. 934 00:33:27,202 --> 00:33:28,602 THROUGH. >> A LOT OF TIMES, WHAT GIRLS 935 00:33:28,604 --> 00:33:29,236 >> A LOT OF TIMES, WHAT GIRLS WILL CHOOSE TO THINK IS, "THIS 936 00:33:29,238 --> 00:33:30,637 WILL CHOOSE TO THINK IS, "THIS IS MY FAULT. 937 00:33:30,639 --> 00:33:31,238 IS MY FAULT. AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL 938 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:31,772 AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL ANYONE. 939 00:33:31,774 --> 00:33:34,241 ANYONE. I DON'T WANT TO BE BLAMED. 940 00:33:34,243 --> 00:33:34,875 I DON'T WANT TO BE BLAMED. SO I'LL KEEP IT TO MYSELF, AND 941 00:33:34,877 --> 00:33:37,377 SO I'LL KEEP IT TO MYSELF, AND I'LL HAVE ALL OF THIS SHAME." 942 00:33:37,379 --> 00:33:43,750 I'LL HAVE ALL OF THIS SHAME." >> I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING TO 943 00:33:43,752 --> 00:33:45,485 >> I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING TO ANYBODY EXCEPT MY BEST FRIEND, 944 00:33:45,487 --> 00:33:46,720 ANYBODY EXCEPT MY BEST FRIEND, FOR A YEAR, UNTIL THE POLICE 945 00:33:46,722 --> 00:33:51,758 FOR A YEAR, UNTIL THE POLICE SHOWED UP AT MY DOOR. 946 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,693 SHOWED UP AT MY DOOR. AND I WAS THINKING, "OH, MY GOD, 947 00:33:52,695 --> 00:33:53,326 AND I WAS THINKING, "OH, MY GOD, I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY 948 00:33:53,328 --> 00:33:55,829 I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY KNOWS." 949 00:33:55,831 --> 00:33:58,732 KNOWS." SO, AT THAT POINT, I HAD TO GO 950 00:33:58,734 --> 00:33:59,833 SO, AT THAT POINT, I HAD TO GO AND TELL MY MOM WHAT HAPPENED. 951 00:33:59,835 --> 00:34:03,770 AND TELL MY MOM WHAT HAPPENED. >> THINGS IN THE PAST STARTED 952 00:34:03,772 --> 00:34:04,705 >> THINGS IN THE PAST STARTED MAKING A LOT MORE SENSE. 953 00:34:04,707 --> 00:34:06,773 MAKING A LOT MORE SENSE. AS A MOTHER, YOU FEEL, LIKE, WHY 954 00:34:06,775 --> 00:34:09,576 AS A MOTHER, YOU FEEL, LIKE, WHY COULDN'T YOU PROTECT HER? 955 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,761 OF ME TALKING TO THE DETECTIVES. >> HE WENT DOWN TO MY VAGINA, MY 956 00:34:27,763 --> 00:34:28,462 >> HE WENT DOWN TO MY VAGINA, MY CROTCH. 957 00:34:28,464 --> 00:34:29,262 CROTCH. >> WE'VE HEARD IT ALL. 958 00:34:29,264 --> 00:34:32,165 >> WE'VE HEARD IT ALL. >> I COULD HEAR HOW LITTLE I WAS 959 00:34:32,167 --> 00:34:33,200 >> I COULD HEAR HOW LITTLE I WAS AND HOW, LIKE, AFRAID. 960 00:34:33,202 --> 00:34:39,740 AND HOW, LIKE, AFRAID. I FELT REALLY BAD FOR THAT 961 00:34:39,742 --> 00:34:40,474 I FELT REALLY BAD FOR THAT LITTLE GIRL. 962 00:34:40,476 --> 00:34:43,610 LITTLE GIRL. >> DURING THE COURSE OF THE 963 00:34:43,612 --> 00:34:44,211 >> DURING THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION, THE PALM BEACH 964 00:34:44,213 --> 00:34:46,713 INVESTIGATION, THE PALM BEACH POLICE DOCUMENTED INTERVIEWS 965 00:34:46,715 --> 00:34:47,748 POLICE DOCUMENTED INTERVIEWS WITH ABOUT TWO DOZEN POTENTIAL 966 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:52,986 WITH ABOUT TWO DOZEN POTENTIAL VICTIMS AND WITNESSES. 967 00:34:52,988 --> 00:34:53,620 VICTIMS AND WITNESSES. >> I'M INVESTIGATING A CASE AND 968 00:34:53,622 --> 00:34:54,521 >> I'M INVESTIGATING A CASE AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE INFORMATION 969 00:34:54,523 --> 00:34:55,756 I BELIEVE YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON JEFF EPSTEIN, OKAY? 970 00:34:55,758 --> 00:34:57,657 ON JEFF EPSTEIN, OKAY? >> OKAY. 971 00:34:57,659 --> 00:34:58,692 >> OKAY. >> THE PALM BEACH POLICE, AS 972 00:34:58,694 --> 00:34:59,259 >> THE PALM BEACH POLICE, AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR 973 00:34:59,261 --> 00:34:59,793 THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR INVESTIGATION, THEY FIND 974 00:34:59,795 --> 00:35:01,294 INVESTIGATION, THEY FIND THERE'S, LIKE, A NETWORK GOING 975 00:35:06,502 --> 00:35:07,134 IT. >> HALF OF THE SCHOOL KNEW ABOUT 976 00:35:07,136 --> 00:35:10,637 >> HALF OF THE SCHOOL KNEW ABOUT IT? 977 00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:11,204 IT? >> ALL OF THE VICTIMS HAD, 978 00:35:11,206 --> 00:35:11,805 >> ALL OF THE VICTIMS HAD, BASICALLY, THE SAME STORY OF 979 00:35:11,807 --> 00:35:12,439 BASICALLY, THE SAME STORY OF WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO DO AND 980 00:35:12,441 --> 00:35:15,342 WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO DO AND WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT HAPPENED. 981 00:35:15,344 --> 00:35:15,976 WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT HAPPENED. >> DID HE OFFER YOU MORE MONEY 982 00:35:15,978 --> 00:35:19,513 >> DID HE OFFER YOU MORE MONEY TO DO MORE THINGS? 983 00:35:19,515 --> 00:35:20,147 TO DO MORE THINGS? >> YEAH, $100 MORE JUST TO TAKE 984 00:35:20,149 --> 00:35:21,047 >> YEAH, $100 MORE JUST TO TAKE MY SHIRT OFF. 985 00:35:21,049 --> 00:35:23,183 MY SHIRT OFF. >> $200 FOR 40 MINUTES. 986 00:35:23,185 --> 00:35:24,684 >> $200 FOR 40 MINUTES. THAT WAS A LOT FOR A 16-YEAR-OLD 987 00:35:24,686 --> 00:35:26,753 THAT WAS A LOT FOR A 16-YEAR-OLD GIRL MAKING SIX BUCKS AN HOUR. 988 00:35:26,755 --> 00:35:27,788 GIRL MAKING SIX BUCKS AN HOUR. I'D JUST CLOSE MY EYES AND THINK 989 00:35:27,790 --> 00:35:32,993 I'D JUST CLOSE MY EYES AND THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE. 990 00:35:32,995 --> 00:35:34,761 OF SOMETHING ELSE. >> I KNEW IT WOULD BE A BIG 991 00:35:34,763 --> 00:35:35,095 >> I KNEW IT WOULD BE A BIG CASE. 992 00:35:35,097 --> 00:35:35,695 CASE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I TOLD THE 993 00:35:35,697 --> 00:35:39,800 AND SO THAT'S WHY I TOLD THE STATE ATTORNEY ABOUT IT. 994 00:35:39,802 --> 00:35:40,700 STATE ATTORNEY ABOUT IT. >> STATE ATTORNEY BARRY KRISCHER 995 00:35:40,702 --> 00:35:43,403 >> STATE ATTORNEY BARRY KRISCHER AT THE TIME WAS VERY HIGHLY 996 00:35:43,405 --> 00:35:44,037 AT THE TIME WAS VERY HIGHLY REGARDED AND HE WAS KNOWN AS A 997 00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:46,840 REGARDED AND HE WAS KNOWN AS A TOUGH PROSECUTOR. 998 00:35:46,842 --> 00:35:49,976 TOUGH PROSECUTOR. >> I TOLD HIM THAT, THIS IS A 999 00:35:49,978 --> 00:35:51,778 >> I TOLD HIM THAT, THIS IS A 50-SOME-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS VERY 1000 00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:54,981 50-SOME-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS VERY YOUNG FEMALE CHILDREN. 1001 00:35:54,983 --> 00:35:55,749 YOUNG FEMALE CHILDREN. HE ASKED ME THE PERSON'S NAME, I 1002 00:35:55,751 --> 00:35:58,718 HE ASKED ME THE PERSON'S NAME, I TOLD HIM IT WAS JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1003 00:35:58,720 --> 00:35:59,553 TOLD HIM IT WAS JEFFREY EPSTEIN. HE SAID, "I NEVER HEARD OF THE 1004 00:35:59,555 --> 00:35:59,753 HE SAID, "I NEVER HEARD OF THE GUY." 1005 00:35:59,755 --> 00:36:01,655 GUY." HE SAID, "WE'LL PUT THIS GUY 1006 00:36:01,657 --> 00:36:03,757 HE SAID, "WE'LL PUT THIS GUY AWAY THE REST OF HIS LIFE. 1007 00:36:03,759 --> 00:36:10,697 AWAY THE REST OF HIS LIFE. IT'LL BE EASY FOR US." 1008 00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:11,765 IT'LL BE EASY FOR US." >> POLICE WERE ABLE TO GET A 1009 00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:14,167 >> POLICE WERE ABLE TO GET A SEARCH WARRANT AND GO INTO HIS 1010 00:36:14,169 --> 00:36:15,769 SEARCH WARRANT AND GO INTO HIS HOME TO TRY TO RETRIEVE ANY 1011 00:36:15,771 --> 00:36:19,139 HOME TO TRY TO RETRIEVE ANY RELEVANT EVIDENCE. 1012 00:36:19,141 --> 00:36:20,707 RELEVANT EVIDENCE. >> SO, THEY WENT ROOM TO ROOM IN 1013 00:36:20,709 --> 00:36:23,376 >> SO, THEY WENT ROOM TO ROOM IN THE HOUSE AND VIDEOTAPED IT. 1014 00:36:23,378 --> 00:36:23,977 THE HOUSE AND VIDEOTAPED IT. >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS TIPPED 1015 00:36:23,979 --> 00:36:24,945 >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS TIPPED OFF ON THE SEARCH WARRANT. 1016 00:36:24,947 --> 00:36:27,747 OFF ON THE SEARCH WARRANT. THE COMPUTERS HAD ALL BEEN 1017 00:36:27,749 --> 00:36:28,748 THE COMPUTERS HAD ALL BEEN REMOVED. 1018 00:36:28,750 --> 00:36:29,382 REMOVED. STILL, THERE WERE MESSAGE PADS 1019 00:36:29,384 --> 00:36:32,252 STILL, THERE WERE MESSAGE PADS WITH GIRLS' NAMES. 1020 00:36:32,254 --> 00:36:35,755 WITH GIRLS' NAMES. >> THE POLICE DID A BANG-UP JOB. 1021 00:36:35,757 --> 00:36:39,759 >> THE POLICE DID A BANG-UP JOB. THEY HAD EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED 1022 00:36:39,761 --> 00:36:40,393 THEY HAD EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED TO PAINT THIS GUY AS A 20-YEAR 1023 00:36:40,395 --> 00:36:43,763 TO PAINT THIS GUY AS A 20-YEAR JAILBIRD. 1024 00:36:43,765 --> 00:36:46,700 JAILBIRD. IT WAS MIND-BOGGLING. 1025 00:36:46,702 --> 00:36:49,269 IT WAS MIND-BOGGLING. >> EPSTEIN DECIDES HE'S GOING TO 1026 00:36:49,271 --> 00:36:50,837 >> EPSTEIN DECIDES HE'S GOING TO TURN THE TABLES AND HE'S GOING 1027 00:36:50,839 --> 00:36:51,771 TURN THE TABLES AND HE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ALLEGED 1028 00:36:51,773 --> 00:36:52,706 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ALLEGED VICTIMS AND EVEN THE 1029 00:36:52,708 --> 00:36:55,041 VICTIMS AND EVEN THE INVESTIGATORS ARE BEING LOOKED 1030 00:36:55,043 --> 00:36:55,575 INVESTIGATORS ARE BEING LOOKED AT. 1031 00:36:55,577 --> 00:36:56,142 AT. >> ANYBODY WHO EVER ATTACKS 1032 00:36:56,144 --> 00:36:58,745 >> ANYBODY WHO EVER ATTACKS JEFFREY EPSTEIN, HE ATTACKS 1033 00:36:58,747 --> 00:36:59,813 JEFFREY EPSTEIN, HE ATTACKS BACK. 1034 00:36:59,815 --> 00:37:02,782 BACK. >> WHEN YOU KNOW HOW TO PERFORM 1035 00:37:02,784 --> 00:37:03,383 >> WHEN YOU KNOW HOW TO PERFORM SURVEILLANCE, YOU KNOW HOW TO 1036 00:37:03,385 --> 00:37:03,884 SURVEILLANCE, YOU KNOW HOW TO PICK UP WHEN IT'S BEING 1037 00:37:03,886 --> 00:37:07,754 PICK UP WHEN IT'S BEING PERFORMED ON YOU. 1038 00:37:07,756 --> 00:37:09,789 PERFORMED ON YOU. I WAS UNDER SURVEILLANCE, AS WAS 1039 00:37:09,791 --> 00:37:11,758 I WAS UNDER SURVEILLANCE, AS WAS THE LEAD DETECTIVE, FOR AT LEAST 1040 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,094 THE LEAD DETECTIVE, FOR AT LEAST THREE MONTHS, PRETTY MUCH 24 1041 00:37:14,096 --> 00:37:14,394 THREE MONTHS, PRETTY MUCH 24 HOURS A DAY. 1042 00:37:14,396 --> 00:37:15,462 HOURS A DAY. FOR A SITTING POLICE CHIEF, 1043 00:37:15,464 --> 00:37:15,929 FOR A SITTING POLICE CHIEF, THAT'S PRETTY UNUSUAL. 1044 00:37:15,931 --> 00:37:16,696 THAT'S PRETTY UNUSUAL. >> MANY OF THESE GIRLS WERE 1045 00:37:16,698 --> 00:37:19,766 >> MANY OF THESE GIRLS WERE FOLLOWED. 1046 00:37:26,909 --> 00:37:27,540 INFORMATION. THEY WANTED ME TO TALK TO THEM. 1047 00:37:27,542 --> 00:37:28,174 THEY WANTED ME TO TALK TO THEM. IT WAS DEFINITELY INTIMIDATION, 1048 00:37:28,176 --> 00:37:31,745 IT WAS DEFINITELY INTIMIDATION, HARASSMENT. 1049 00:37:31,747 --> 00:37:32,612 HARASSMENT. >> THE GIRLS WOULD CALL MY 1050 00:37:32,614 --> 00:37:33,647 >> THE GIRLS WOULD CALL MY OFFICE SAYING, YOU KNOW, "I WAS 1051 00:37:33,649 --> 00:37:34,714 OFFICE SAYING, YOU KNOW, "I WAS JUST FOLLOWED HOME FROM SCHOOL 1052 00:37:34,716 --> 00:37:35,749 JUST FOLLOWED HOME FROM SCHOOL BY A BLACK LINCOLN NAVIGATOR 1053 00:37:35,751 --> 00:37:40,720 BY A BLACK LINCOLN NAVIGATOR JUST GOING SLOWLY BEHIND ME." 1054 00:37:40,722 --> 00:37:43,757 JUST GOING SLOWLY BEHIND ME." >> EPSTEIN HIRED SOME OF THE 1055 00:37:43,759 --> 00:37:46,726 >> EPSTEIN HIRED SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN THE COUNTRY TO 1056 00:37:51,233 --> 00:37:51,765 EPSTEIN GETS HIS ATTORNEYS TO START INVESTIGATING THE 1057 00:37:51,767 --> 00:37:54,301 START INVESTIGATING THE ACCUSERS, LOOKING INTO THEIR 1058 00:37:54,303 --> 00:37:55,735 ACCUSERS, LOOKING INTO THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA, LOOKING TO SEE IF 1059 00:37:55,737 --> 00:37:57,938 SOCIAL MEDIA, LOOKING TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY JUVENILE RECORDS. 1060 00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:58,772 THEY HAVE ANY JUVENILE RECORDS. >> EPSTEIN'S LAWYERS ALSO START 1061 00:37:58,774 --> 00:37:59,272 >> EPSTEIN'S LAWYERS ALSO START SENDING LETTERS TO THE 1062 00:37:59,274 --> 00:38:03,777 SENDING LETTERS TO THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE. 1063 00:38:03,779 --> 00:38:05,478 PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE. ONE IN PARTICULAR CALLS AN 1064 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,514 ONE IN PARTICULAR CALLS AN ALLEGED VICTIM, QUOTE, 1065 00:38:07,516 --> 00:38:08,114 ALLEGED VICTIM, QUOTE, "UNTRUTHFUL, SEXUALLY ACTIVE, 1066 00:38:08,116 --> 00:38:10,650 "UNTRUTHFUL, SEXUALLY ACTIVE, SMOKES MARIJUANA." 1067 00:38:10,652 --> 00:38:11,117 SMOKES MARIJUANA." THE LETTER ALSO SAYS, 1068 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,219 THE LETTER ALSO SAYS, "MR. EPSTEIN DOES NOT USE DRUGS 1069 00:38:13,221 --> 00:38:13,687 "MR. EPSTEIN DOES NOT USE DRUGS OR ALCOHOL AND HAS AN 1070 00:38:13,689 --> 00:38:16,756 OR ALCOHOL AND HAS AN UNEQUIVOCAL REPUTATION FOR BEING 1071 00:38:16,758 --> 00:38:19,759 UNEQUIVOCAL REPUTATION FOR BEING TRUTHFUL." 1072 00:38:19,761 --> 00:38:20,360 TRUTHFUL." >> EPSTEIN'S ATTORNEYS SAID, 1073 00:38:20,362 --> 00:38:22,128 >> EPSTEIN'S ATTORNEYS SAID, LOOK, HEY, THESE GIRLS, THEY'RE 1074 00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:22,529 LOOK, HEY, THESE GIRLS, THEY'RE DOING BAD THINGS. 1075 00:38:22,531 --> 00:38:22,963 DOING BAD THINGS. THESE ARE BAD GIRLS. 1076 00:38:22,965 --> 00:38:23,596 THESE ARE BAD GIRLS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO 1077 00:38:23,598 --> 00:38:24,297 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVE YOUR CASE. 1078 00:38:24,299 --> 00:38:24,931 PROVE YOUR CASE. >> POLICE CHIEF REITER SAYS, AT 1079 00:38:24,933 --> 00:38:27,734 >> POLICE CHIEF REITER SAYS, AT THIS POINT, HE NOTICES A 1080 00:38:27,736 --> 00:38:28,735 THIS POINT, HE NOTICES A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. 1081 00:38:28,737 --> 00:38:32,605 SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. AND HE AND HIS DETECTIVES ARE 1082 00:38:32,607 --> 00:38:34,674 AND HE AND HIS DETECTIVES ARE GETTING RADIO SILENCE FROM THE 1083 00:38:39,014 --> 00:38:41,881 OFFICE. HE TOLD ME ALL THIS CASE WAS A 1084 00:38:41,883 --> 00:38:42,949 HE TOLD ME ALL THIS CASE WAS A MISDEMEANOR. 1085 00:38:42,951 --> 00:38:44,417 MISDEMEANOR. HE SUGGESTED WE WRITE EPSTEIN A 1086 00:38:44,419 --> 00:38:46,519 HE SUGGESTED WE WRITE EPSTEIN A NOTICE TO APPEAR, BASICALLY 1087 00:38:46,521 --> 00:38:47,087 NOTICE TO APPEAR, BASICALLY SIMILAR FORMAT AS A TRAFFIC 1088 00:38:47,089 --> 00:38:48,088 SIMILAR FORMAT AS A TRAFFIC TICKET. 1089 00:38:48,090 --> 00:38:50,991 TICKET. I WAS BASICALLY PLEADING WITH 1090 00:38:50,993 --> 00:38:52,759 I WAS BASICALLY PLEADING WITH HIM, PLEASE RECONSIDER. 1091 00:39:03,372 --> 00:39:04,004 REMOVE HIMSELF FROM THE CASE. >> IT'S VERY RARE IN PALM BEACH 1092 00:39:04,006 --> 00:39:04,771 >> IT'S VERY RARE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY FOR SOMEBODY TO GO AFTER 1093 00:39:04,773 --> 00:39:07,507 COUNTY FOR SOMEBODY TO GO AFTER THE STATE ATTORNEY. 1094 00:39:15,751 --> 00:39:16,750 CASE. AND THEN NOTHING MUCH HAPPENED 1095 00:39:16,752 --> 00:39:21,554 AND THEN NOTHING MUCH HAPPENED FOR ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF 1096 00:39:21,556 --> 00:39:21,788 FOR ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. 1097 00:39:21,790 --> 00:39:22,856 MONTHS. >> WHEN I OPENED THE NEWSPAPER, 1098 00:39:22,858 --> 00:39:27,761 >> WHEN I OPENED THE NEWSPAPER, I WAS STUNNED. 1099 00:39:27,763 --> 00:39:30,096 I WAS STUNNED. >> EPSTEIN HAD BEEN CHARGED WITH 1100 00:39:30,098 --> 00:39:32,298 >> EPSTEIN HAD BEEN CHARGED WITH A SINGLE COUNT OF SOLICITATION 1101 00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:33,600 A SINGLE COUNT OF SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION. 1102 00:39:33,602 --> 00:39:34,200 OF PROSTITUTION. >> AND IN THE CHARGE, NOTHING 1103 00:39:34,202 --> 00:39:34,734 >> AND IN THE CHARGE, NOTHING ABOUT MINORS. 1104 00:39:34,736 --> 00:39:35,702 ABOUT MINORS. >> THE PALM BEACH POLICE 1105 00:39:35,704 --> 00:39:36,302 >> THE PALM BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD PUT TOGETHER A 1106 00:39:36,304 --> 00:39:39,739 DEPARTMENT HAD PUT TOGETHER A CASE FOR DOZENS OF LEWD AND 1107 00:39:39,741 --> 00:39:40,373 CASE FOR DOZENS OF LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS MOLESTATIONS AGAINST 1108 00:39:40,375 --> 00:39:40,974 LASCIVIOUS MOLESTATIONS AGAINST MINOR CHARGES AGAINST JEFFREY 1109 00:39:40,976 --> 00:39:46,012 MINOR CHARGES AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1110 00:39:46,014 --> 00:39:47,781 EPSTEIN. >> BARRY COULD HAVE THROWN THE 1111 00:39:47,783 --> 00:39:49,716 >> BARRY COULD HAVE THROWN THE BOOK AT EPSTEIN AND HE REFUSED 1112 00:39:49,718 --> 00:39:49,983 BOOK AT EPSTEIN AND HE REFUSED TO DO IT. 1113 00:39:49,985 --> 00:39:50,750 TO DO IT. >> THE FORMER STATE ATTORNEY, 1114 00:39:50,752 --> 00:39:51,818 >> THE FORMER STATE ATTORNEY, BARRY KRISCHER, HAS NOT 1115 00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:52,752 BARRY KRISCHER, HAS NOT RESPONDED TO ABC NEWS' EFFORTS 1116 00:39:52,754 --> 00:39:55,755 RESPONDED TO ABC NEWS' EFFORTS TO TALK TO HIM. 1117 00:39:55,757 --> 00:39:57,557 TO TALK TO HIM. >> KRISCHER RECENTLY DEFENDED 1118 00:39:57,559 --> 00:39:58,591 >> KRISCHER RECENTLY DEFENDED HIS ACTIONS IN A PUBLIC 1119 00:39:58,593 --> 00:39:59,125 HIS ACTIONS IN A PUBLIC STATEMENT, SAYING THAT HE 1120 00:39:59,127 --> 00:40:02,462 STATEMENT, SAYING THAT HE PRESENTED EVIDENCE AND WITNESSES 1121 00:40:02,464 --> 00:40:04,597 PRESENTED EVIDENCE AND WITNESSES TO A GRAND JURY, WHICH RETURNED 1122 00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:05,198 TO A GRAND JURY, WHICH RETURNED A SINGLE COUNT INDICTMENT OF 1123 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,698 A SINGLE COUNT INDICTMENT OF FELONY SOLICITATION OF 1124 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:09,369 FELONY SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION. 1125 00:40:09,371 --> 00:40:09,869 PROSTITUTION. >> CALLING THESE GIRLS 1126 00:40:09,871 --> 00:40:10,737 >> CALLING THESE GIRLS PROSTITUTES IS A VERY OFFENSIVE 1127 00:40:10,739 --> 00:40:13,973 PROSTITUTES IS A VERY OFFENSIVE THING. 1128 00:40:13,975 --> 00:40:14,507 THING. >> WE WEREN'T PROSTITUTES. 1129 00:40:14,509 --> 00:40:15,542 >> WE WEREN'T PROSTITUTES. WE WEREN'T WHORES. 1130 00:40:15,544 --> 00:40:17,610 WE WEREN'T WHORES. WE WERE CHILDREN. 1131 00:40:17,612 --> 00:40:19,145 WE WERE CHILDREN. >> I NEEDED TO LET THEM KNOW IT 1132 00:40:19,147 --> 00:40:19,746 >> I NEEDED TO LET THEM KNOW IT DOESN'T END WITH THIS. 1133 00:40:19,748 --> 00:40:21,748 DOESN'T END WITH THIS. >> HE DID THE ONLY THING HE 1134 00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:22,348 >> HE DID THE ONLY THING HE COULD DO, WHICH IS TAKE IT TO 1135 00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:26,986 COULD DO, WHICH IS TAKE IT TO THE FBI. 1136 00:40:26,988 --> 00:40:27,620 THE FBI. >> THE FBI BEGINS A NATIONWIDE 1137 00:40:27,622 --> 00:40:27,954 >> THE FBI BEGINS A NATIONWIDE INVESTIGATION. 1138 00:40:27,956 --> 00:40:31,658 INVESTIGATION. >> HE'S GOT HOMES IN NEW YORK 1139 00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:32,292 >> HE'S GOT HOMES IN NEW YORK AND THE VIRGIN ISLANDS AND NEW 1140 00:40:32,294 --> 00:40:34,727 AND THE VIRGIN ISLANDS AND NEW MEXICO. 1141 00:40:34,729 --> 00:40:38,932 MEXICO. AND THAT BECOMES PARTICULARLY 1142 00:40:38,934 --> 00:40:39,466 AND THAT BECOMES PARTICULARLY PERILOUS FOR EPSTEIN. 1143 00:40:39,468 --> 00:40:40,100 PERILOUS FOR EPSTEIN. HE MAY HAVE UNDERESTIMATED THE 1144 00:40:40,102 --> 00:40:40,700 HE MAY HAVE UNDERESTIMATED THE DETERMINATION OF MANY OF THE 1145 00:40:40,702 --> 00:40:42,602 DETERMINATION OF MANY OF THE VICTIMS. 1146 00:40:42,604 --> 00:40:44,637 VICTIMS. >> MR. EPSTEIN, HOW LONG HAVE 1147 00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:46,739 >> MR. EPSTEIN, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO 1148 00:40:46,741 --> 00:40:51,044 YOU BEEN SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO UNDERAGE MINOR FEMALES? 1149 00:40:51,046 --> 00:40:56,299 UNDERAGE MINOR FEMALES? >> ARE YOU KIDDING? 1150 00:40:56,301 --> 00:40:58,535 >> ARE YOU KIDDING? >>> WE WEREN'T PROSTITUTES. 1151 00:40:58,537 --> 00:41:03,072 >>> WE WEREN'T PROSTITUTES. WE WEREN'T WHOWHORES. 1152 00:41:03,074 --> 00:41:03,807 WE WEREN'T WHOWHORES. WE WERE CHILDREN. 1153 00:41:03,809 --> 00:41:07,143 WE WERE CHILDREN. >> DO YOU ENJOY COERCING MINORS 1154 00:41:07,145 --> 00:41:08,445 >> DO YOU ENJOY COERCING MINORS INTO SEX ACTS WITH YOU? 1155 00:41:08,447 --> 00:41:09,145 INTO SEX ACTS WITH YOU? >> DIDN'T CARE. 1156 00:41:09,147 --> 00:41:10,046 >> DIDN'T CARE. HE DOESN'T CARE. 1157 00:41:10,048 --> 00:41:10,713 HE DOESN'T CARE. FOR HIM, I THINK, PEOPLE ARE 1158 00:41:10,715 --> 00:41:12,682 FOR HIM, I THINK, PEOPLE ARE SPORT. 1159 00:41:12,684 --> 00:41:17,153 SPORT. >> HE WAS MOLESTING UNDERAGE 1160 00:41:17,155 --> 00:41:18,421 >> HE WAS MOLESTING UNDERAGE GIRLS MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY. 1161 00:41:18,423 --> 00:41:18,922 GIRLS MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY. >> WHO? 1162 00:41:18,924 --> 00:41:20,223 >> WHO? >> AND EVERYBODY WAS OKAY WITH 1163 00:41:20,225 --> 00:41:20,390 >> AND EVERYBODY WAS OKAY WITH IT. 1164 00:41:20,392 --> 00:41:24,060 IT. >> THEY WERE TRYING TO LURE THE 1165 00:41:24,062 --> 00:41:25,295 >> THEY WERE TRYING TO LURE THE YOUNGER SISTERS INTO THEIR 1166 00:41:25,297 --> 00:41:25,628 YOUNGER SISTERS INTO THEIR HAREM. 1167 00:41:25,630 --> 00:41:27,063 HAREM. >> I DIDN'T WANT HER TO GET 1168 00:41:27,065 --> 00:41:27,263 >> I DIDN'T WANT HER TO GET HURT. 1169 00:41:27,265 --> 00:41:30,700 HURT. >> LIKE VAMPIRES, NEEDED FRESH 1170 00:41:39,177 --> 00:41:40,376 >> SO, DOES THIS MEAN THAT HE JUST GETS AWAY WITH IT? 1171 00:41:40,378 --> 00:41:42,912 JUST GETS AWAY WITH IT? >> IT MAKES ME SO MAD. 1172 00:41:42,914 --> 00:41:44,214 >> IT MAKES ME SO MAD. THE LAW MATTERS. 1173 00:41:44,216 --> 00:41:46,349 THE LAW MATTERS. WHY DOES IT NOT MATTER FOR HIM? 1174 00:41:46,351 --> 00:41:51,387 WHY DOES IT NOT MATTER FOR HIM? >> THIS ONE IS THE LITTLE BLACK 1175 00:41:51,389 --> 00:41:51,921 >> THIS ONE IS THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK, HOLY GRAIL. 1176 00:41:51,923 --> 00:41:54,457 BOOK, HOLY GRAIL. >> IT'S A WHO'S WHO OF WHO IS IN 1177 00:41:54,459 --> 00:41:55,225 >> IT'S A WHO'S WHO OF WHO IS IN EPSTEIN'S WILL. 1178 00:41:55,227 --> 00:41:56,759 EPSTEIN'S WILL. >> ALL THE NUMBERS OF THE RICH 1179 00:41:56,761 --> 00:41:57,260 >> ALL THE NUMBERS OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS. 1180 00:41:57,262 --> 00:41:58,728 AND FAMOUS. >> SHE HAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF 1181 00:41:58,730 --> 00:42:01,297 >> SHE HAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF HERSELF AND PRINCE ANDREW AT 17 1182 00:42:01,299 --> 00:42:02,298 HERSELF AND PRINCE ANDREW AT 17 YEARS OLD. 1183 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:04,367 YEARS OLD. >> THE VICTIMS ARE DETERMINED TO 1184 00:42:04,369 --> 00:42:06,236 >> THE VICTIMS ARE DETERMINED TO BLOW THE LID ON EPSTEIN'S 1185 00:42:06,238 --> 00:42:06,769 BLOW THE LID ON EPSTEIN'S ALLEGED CRIMES. 1186 00:42:06,771 --> 00:42:08,204 ALLEGED CRIMES. >> THEY GOT THE WRONG PERSON IF 1187 00:42:08,206 --> 00:42:10,373 >> THEY GOT THE WRONG PERSON IF THEY THINK SHE'S GOING TO BACK 1188 00:42:10,375 --> 00:42:10,573 THEY THINK SHE'S GOING TO BACK DOWN. 1189 00:42:10,575 --> 00:42:12,675 DOWN. >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN IS STILL 1190 00:42:12,677 --> 00:42:13,676 >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN IS STILL LIVING HIS BEST LIFE. 1191 00:42:13,678 --> 00:42:15,278 LIVING HIS BEST LIFE. HE FLIES IN FROM PARIS, HE LANDS 1192 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,913 HE FLIES IN FROM PARIS, HE LANDS ON THE TARMAC AND HIS LIFE IS 1193 00:42:16,915 --> 00:42:17,280 ON THE TARMAC AND HIS LIFE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE. 1194 00:42:17,282 --> 00:42:21,284 ABOUT TO CHANGE. >> HE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS ABOUT 1195 00:42:21,286 --> 00:42:24,087 >> HE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS ABOUT TO COME. 1196 00:42:25,356 --> 00:42:28,391 ♪ >>> A SOUTH FLORIDA BILLIONAIRE 1197 00:42:28,393 --> 00:42:28,858 >>> A SOUTH FLORIDA BILLIONAIRE HAS BEEN ARRESTED ON 1198 00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:33,296 HAS BEEN ARRESTED ON PROSTITUTION CHARGES. 1199 00:42:40,372 --> 00:42:41,271 >> 53-YEAR-OLD JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS ARRESTED IN PALM BEACH, 1200 00:42:41,273 --> 00:42:43,573 WAS ARRESTED IN PALM BEACH, WHERE INVESTIGATORS SAY HE PAID 1201 00:42:43,575 --> 00:42:45,275 WHERE INVESTIGATORS SAY HE PAID WOMEN TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM IN 1202 00:42:45,277 --> 00:42:45,808 WOMEN TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM IN HIS MANSION. 1203 00:42:45,810 --> 00:42:46,442 HIS MANSION. >> THE POLICE HAD BEEN WORKING 1204 00:42:46,444 --> 00:42:47,076 >> THE POLICE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS INVESTIGATION FOR A LONG 1205 00:42:47,078 --> 00:42:47,277 ON THIS INVESTIGATION FOR A LONG TIME. 1206 00:42:47,279 --> 00:42:47,911 TIME. THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD A LOT OF 1207 00:42:47,913 --> 00:42:48,945 THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD A LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT EPSTEIN WAS 1208 00:42:48,947 --> 00:42:49,479 EVIDENCE THAT EPSTEIN WAS RUNNING A CHILD SEX RING. 1209 00:42:49,481 --> 00:42:49,946 RUNNING A CHILD SEX RING. >> TO RETURN A SINGLE 1210 00:42:49,948 --> 00:42:51,014 >> TO RETURN A SINGLE SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION 1211 00:42:51,016 --> 00:42:51,581 SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION CHARGE JUST MAKES NO SENSE. 1212 00:42:51,583 --> 00:42:52,582 CHARGE JUST MAKES NO SENSE. IT WASN'T FAIR. 1213 00:42:52,584 --> 00:42:55,184 IT WASN'T FAIR. IT WASN'T JUSTICE. 1214 00:42:58,356 --> 00:43:01,291 AND HE'S FREE. BUT THE PALM BEACH POLICE CHIEF 1215 00:43:01,293 --> 00:43:03,493 BUT THE PALM BEACH POLICE CHIEF IS NOW FURIOUS AND HE WANTS THE 1216 00:43:03,495 --> 00:43:04,360 IS NOW FURIOUS AND HE WANTS THE FBI TO TAKE OVER. 1217 00:43:04,362 --> 00:43:05,295 FBI TO TAKE OVER. AND THEY DO. 1218 00:43:05,297 --> 00:43:09,232 AND THEY DO. >> WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM THE 1219 00:43:09,234 --> 00:43:09,732 >> WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM THE FBI ASKING FOR THE CASE. 1220 00:43:09,734 --> 00:43:13,303 FBI ASKING FOR THE CASE. WHEN THEY HEARD THE WAY IT WAS 1221 00:43:13,305 --> 00:43:14,938 WHEN THEY HEARD THE WAY IT WAS HANDLED IN STATE COURT, THEY 1222 00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:15,572 HANDLED IN STATE COURT, THEY TOLD US, "OF COURSE THIS IS -- 1223 00:43:15,574 --> 00:43:16,372 TOLD US, "OF COURSE THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT ENOUGH. 1224 00:43:16,374 --> 00:43:17,006 THIS IS NOT ENOUGH. THIS IS A GUY WE REALLY HAVE TO 1225 00:43:17,008 --> 00:43:17,206 THIS IS A GUY WE REALLY HAVE TO STOP." 1226 00:43:17,208 --> 00:43:20,643 STOP." >> THE FBI BEGINS TO INVESTIGATE 1227 00:43:20,645 --> 00:43:21,277 >> THE FBI BEGINS TO INVESTIGATE EPSTEIN IN EVERY STATE WHERE HE 1228 00:43:21,279 --> 00:43:23,246 EPSTEIN IN EVERY STATE WHERE HE HAD A HOME. 1229 00:43:23,248 --> 00:43:25,281 HAD A HOME. >> THE FBI PICKED UP WHERE THE 1230 00:43:25,283 --> 00:43:26,883 >> THE FBI PICKED UP WHERE THE PALM BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT 1231 00:43:26,885 --> 00:43:28,451 PALM BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT LEFT OFF AND BEGAN UNCOVERING 1232 00:43:28,453 --> 00:43:31,588 LEFT OFF AND BEGAN UNCOVERING MORE AND MORE VICTIMS. 1233 00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:33,122 MORE AND MORE VICTIMS. >> AND ONE OF THOSE ALLEGED 1234 00:43:33,124 --> 00:43:33,623 >> AND ONE OF THOSE ALLEGED VICTIMS IS MARIA FARMER. 1235 00:43:33,625 --> 00:43:36,259 VICTIMS IS MARIA FARMER. >> IT'S 2006. 1236 00:43:36,261 --> 00:43:36,759 >> IT'S 2006. I'M 36 YEARS OLD. 1237 00:43:36,761 --> 00:43:37,360 I'M 36 YEARS OLD. I'M IN NORTH CAROLINA IN THE 1238 00:43:37,362 --> 00:43:40,463 I'M IN NORTH CAROLINA IN THE MOUNTAINS. 1239 00:43:40,465 --> 00:43:41,264 MOUNTAINS. AND THEN SOMEBODY KNOCKS ON THE 1240 00:43:41,266 --> 00:43:45,268 AND THEN SOMEBODY KNOCKS ON THE DOOR. 1241 00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:49,272 I IMMEDIATELY SAID TO HER, "ARE YOU HERE ABOUT MY STUDENT 1242 00:43:49,274 --> 00:43:51,841 YOU HERE ABOUT MY STUDENT LOANS?" 1243 00:43:51,843 --> 00:43:52,442 LOANS?" AND SHE SAID, "NO, NO, NO, NO. 1244 00:43:52,444 --> 00:43:53,076 AND SHE SAID, "NO, NO, NO, NO. WE'RE HERE ABOUT YOUR 1996 FBI 1245 00:43:53,078 --> 00:43:57,280 WE'RE HERE ABOUT YOUR 1996 FBI REPORT." 1246 00:43:57,282 --> 00:43:57,880 REPORT." >> BACK IN 1996, MARIA FARMER 1247 00:43:57,882 --> 00:44:01,217 >> BACK IN 1996, MARIA FARMER SAYS SHE TOLD THE FBI ABOUT HER 1248 00:44:01,219 --> 00:44:01,851 SAYS SHE TOLD THE FBI ABOUT HER ALLEGED ASSAULT BY EPSTEIN AND 1249 00:44:01,853 --> 00:44:04,320 ALLEGED ASSAULT BY EPSTEIN AND HIS FRIEND GHISLAINE MAXWELL. 1250 00:44:04,322 --> 00:44:04,954 HIS FRIEND GHISLAINE MAXWELL. AND SHE SAYS SHE TOLD THEM ABOUT 1251 00:44:04,956 --> 00:44:06,489 AND SHE SAYS SHE TOLD THEM ABOUT THIS STRANGE PARADE OF 1252 00:44:06,491 --> 00:44:09,292 THIS STRANGE PARADE OF SCHOOLGIRLS GOING IN AND OUT OF 1253 00:44:09,294 --> 00:44:10,460 SCHOOLGIRLS GOING IN AND OUT OF HIS NEW YORK MANSION. 1254 00:44:10,462 --> 00:44:11,628 HIS NEW YORK MANSION. >> THE FBI, AS A MATTER OF 1255 00:44:11,630 --> 00:44:13,262 >> THE FBI, AS A MATTER OF POLICY, DECLINED TO COMMENT FOR 1256 00:44:13,264 --> 00:44:15,231 POLICY, DECLINED TO COMMENT FOR THIS REPORT. 1257 00:44:15,233 --> 00:44:16,432 THIS REPORT. >> I REMEMBER JUST KIND OF BEING 1258 00:44:16,434 --> 00:44:18,601 >> I REMEMBER JUST KIND OF BEING SHOCKED THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY 1259 00:44:18,603 --> 00:44:21,270 SHOCKED THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH, TEN 1260 00:44:21,272 --> 00:44:22,438 GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH, TEN YEARS LATER. 1261 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,474 YEARS LATER. >> THE PROSECUTOR AT THE TIME 1262 00:44:24,476 --> 00:44:27,477 >> THE PROSECUTOR AT THE TIME WAS ALEXANDER ACOSTA, WHO WENT 1263 00:44:27,479 --> 00:44:28,511 WAS ALEXANDER ACOSTA, WHO WENT ONTO BECOME LABOR SECRETARY 1264 00:44:28,513 --> 00:44:33,016 ONTO BECOME LABOR SECRETARY UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP. 1265 00:44:33,018 --> 00:44:33,650 UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> HE LED ME TO BELIEVE THAT HE 1266 00:44:33,652 --> 00:44:34,250 >> HE LED ME TO BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD DO HIS JOB AND THAT HE 1267 00:44:34,252 --> 00:44:37,186 WOULD DO HIS JOB AND THAT HE RECOGNIZED THIS IS A VERY 1268 00:44:37,188 --> 00:44:37,520 RECOGNIZED THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS CASE. 1269 00:44:37,522 --> 00:44:40,323 SERIOUS CASE. >> THE FEDS HAD A 53-PAGE 1270 00:44:40,325 --> 00:44:40,957 >> THE FEDS HAD A 53-PAGE INDICTMENT READY TO GO, LISTING 1271 00:44:40,959 --> 00:44:43,926 INDICTMENT READY TO GO, LISTING SERIOUS CHARGES. 1272 00:44:46,464 --> 00:44:48,097 VICTIM WHO'S BEEN COOPERATING WITH THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION. 1273 00:44:48,099 --> 00:44:48,731 WITH THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION. BUT AFTER AWHILE, SHE SAYS SHE 1274 00:44:59,778 --> 00:45:00,810 "HI, MY NAME'S COURTNEY WILD. I'M A VICTIM OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1275 00:45:00,812 --> 00:45:01,444 I'M A VICTIM OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT'S HAPPENING 1276 00:45:01,446 --> 00:45:05,281 CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS CASE?" 1277 00:45:08,653 --> 00:45:11,020 NOBODY WOULD EVER CALL ME BACK. I JUMPED IN MY CAR AND I WENT 1278 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,459 BEEN PATIENT. I REALLY JUST WANT TO KNOW 1279 00:45:16,461 --> 00:45:17,126 I REALLY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 1280 00:45:17,128 --> 00:45:17,760 WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT DAY I AGREED TO REPRESENT 1281 00:45:17,762 --> 00:45:18,895 THAT DAY I AGREED TO REPRESENT HER FOR FREE. 1282 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,072 >> IT WASN'T PUBLIC AT THE TIME, BUT WE NOW KNOW THAT THERE WAS 1283 00:45:29,074 --> 00:45:31,274 BUT WE NOW KNOW THAT THERE WAS THIS INTENSE, MONTHSLONG 1284 00:45:40,085 --> 00:45:40,717 INVESTIGATION. >> HE ISN'T JUST A RICH GUY WITH 1285 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,184 >> HE ISN'T JUST A RICH GUY WITH A GOOD DEFENSE LAWYER. 1286 00:45:41,186 --> 00:45:45,288 A GOOD DEFENSE LAWYER. HE'S A REALLY, REALLY RICH GUY 1287 00:45:45,290 --> 00:45:46,355 HE'S A REALLY, REALLY RICH GUY WITH A LOT OF DEFENSE LAWYERS. 1288 00:45:46,357 --> 00:45:50,693 WITH A LOT OF DEFENSE LAWYERS. >> IT WAS LIKE AN O.J. SIMPSON 1289 00:45:50,695 --> 00:45:50,993 >> IT WAS LIKE AN O.J. SIMPSON DREAM TEAM. 1290 00:45:50,995 --> 00:45:52,261 DREAM TEAM. >> THERE ARE EMAILS AFTER EMAILS 1291 00:45:52,263 --> 00:45:52,829 >> THERE ARE EMAILS AFTER EMAILS THAT SHOW THE UNITED STATES 1292 00:45:52,831 --> 00:45:57,300 THAT SHOW THE UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NEGOTIATING 1293 00:45:57,302 --> 00:46:01,104 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NEGOTIATING WITH EPSTEIN'S ATTORNEYS. 1294 00:46:01,106 --> 00:46:01,704 WITH EPSTEIN'S ATTORNEYS. >> THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE 1295 00:46:01,706 --> 00:46:02,672 >> THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT AND JEFFREY EPSTEIN 1296 00:46:02,674 --> 00:46:03,306 GOVERNMENT AND JEFFREY EPSTEIN IS BASICALLY, "WHAT CHARGE WILL 1297 00:46:03,308 --> 00:46:03,806 IS BASICALLY, "WHAT CHARGE WILL JEFFREY EPSTEIN ACCEPT? 1298 00:46:03,808 --> 00:46:04,440 JEFFREY EPSTEIN ACCEPT? WOULD HE LIKE A MISDEMEANOR 1299 00:46:04,442 --> 00:46:05,274 WOULD HE LIKE A MISDEMEANOR HERE?" 1300 00:46:05,276 --> 00:46:09,278 HERE?" ONE DOCUMENT WAS MORE SHOCKING 1301 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,779 ONE DOCUMENT WAS MORE SHOCKING THAN THE NEXT DOCUMENT. 1302 00:46:09,781 --> 00:46:13,282 THAN THE NEXT DOCUMENT. I BELIEVED THAT THERE WAS SOME 1303 00:46:13,284 --> 00:46:16,219 I BELIEVED THAT THERE WAS SOME IMMINENT DEAL BETWEEN THE 1304 00:46:16,221 --> 00:46:16,719 IMMINENT DEAL BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND 1305 00:46:16,721 --> 00:46:20,523 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1306 00:46:20,525 --> 00:46:22,325 JEFFREY EPSTEIN. >> THERE IS A CRIME VICTIM'S 1307 00:46:22,327 --> 00:46:23,893 >> THERE IS A CRIME VICTIM'S RIGHTS ACT, WHICH ENTITLES 1308 00:46:23,895 --> 00:46:24,527 RIGHTS ACT, WHICH ENTITLES VICTIMS TO BE INFORMED OF WHAT'S 1309 00:46:24,529 --> 00:46:24,927 VICTIMS TO BE INFORMED OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. 1310 00:46:24,929 --> 00:46:25,461 HAPPENING. >> YOU CAN'T KEEP ALL THE 1311 00:46:25,463 --> 00:46:28,064 >> YOU CAN'T KEEP ALL THE INFORMATION TO YOURSELF AND NOT 1312 00:46:28,066 --> 00:46:28,631 INFORMATION TO YOURSELF AND NOT JUST TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT 1313 00:46:28,633 --> 00:46:31,000 JUST TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. 1314 00:46:31,002 --> 00:46:32,368 WHAT'S GOING ON. I KNEW THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING 1315 00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:33,035 I KNEW THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT WAS ABOUT TO 1316 00:46:33,037 --> 00:46:34,604 IMPORTANT THAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN THAT I HAD TO STOP. 1317 00:46:34,606 --> 00:46:35,138 HAPPEN THAT I HAD TO STOP. SO, I STARTED DRAFTING A 1318 00:46:35,140 --> 00:46:42,378 SO, I STARTED DRAFTING A PLEADING. 1319 00:46:42,380 --> 00:46:42,879 PLEADING. I DROVE TO THE FEDERAL 1320 00:46:42,881 --> 00:46:43,946 I DROVE TO THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE IN PALM BEACH. 1321 00:46:43,948 --> 00:46:45,281 COURTHOUSE IN PALM BEACH. I WENT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. 1322 00:46:45,283 --> 00:46:46,716 I WENT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. I HANDED IN MY PETITION AND I 1323 00:46:46,718 --> 00:46:49,285 I HANDED IN MY PETITION AND I SAID, "I NEED A HEARING. 1324 00:46:49,287 --> 00:46:50,353 SAID, "I NEED A HEARING. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY." 1325 00:46:50,355 --> 00:46:53,055 THIS IS AN EMERGENCY." AND SHE SAID, "LOOK, IT'S NOT 1326 00:46:53,057 --> 00:46:54,624 AND SHE SAID, "LOOK, IT'S NOT EVEN MARKED EMERGENCY." 1327 00:46:54,626 --> 00:46:57,226 EVEN MARKED EMERGENCY." I SAID, "GIVE IT BACK. 1328 00:46:57,228 --> 00:46:57,760 I SAID, "GIVE IT BACK. JUST GIVE IT BACK TO ME." 1329 00:46:57,762 --> 00:46:59,295 JUST GIVE IT BACK TO ME." I WROTE, IN HANDWRITING, 1330 00:46:59,297 --> 00:47:00,329 I WROTE, IN HANDWRITING, "EMERGENCY." 1331 00:47:00,331 --> 00:47:00,963 "EMERGENCY." AND I WALK BACK OVER AND SAID, 1332 00:47:00,965 --> 00:47:04,433 AND I WALK BACK OVER AND SAID, "NOW IT'S AN EMERGENCY." 1333 00:47:04,435 --> 00:47:07,103 "NOW IT'S AN EMERGENCY." WITHIN FOUR DAYS OF ME FILING 1334 00:47:07,105 --> 00:47:08,137 WITHIN FOUR DAYS OF ME FILING THIS EMERGENCY PETITION, I'M 1335 00:47:08,139 --> 00:47:09,272 THIS EMERGENCY PETITION, I'M GETTING A HEARING. 1336 00:47:09,274 --> 00:47:10,473 GETTING A HEARING. COURTNEY WAS SITTING IN THE 1337 00:47:10,475 --> 00:47:16,479 COURTNEY WAS SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW. 1338 00:47:16,481 --> 00:47:17,280 FRONT ROW. I WALKED TO THE PODIUM, AND THE 1339 00:47:17,282 --> 00:47:20,183 I WALKED TO THE PODIUM, AND THE VERY FIRST WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH 1340 00:47:20,185 --> 00:47:23,820 VERY FIRST WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH WERE, "YOUR HONOR, HE MAY JUST 1341 00:47:23,822 --> 00:47:25,288 WERE, "YOUR HONOR, HE MAY JUST BE THE MOST DANGEROUS SEXUAL 1342 00:47:25,290 --> 00:47:28,457 BE THE MOST DANGEROUS SEXUAL PREDATOR IN U.S. HISTORY." 1343 00:47:28,459 --> 00:47:31,027 PREDATOR IN U.S. HISTORY." >> JUST MOMENTS LATER, AT THAT 1344 00:47:31,029 --> 00:47:33,296 >> JUST MOMENTS LATER, AT THAT SAME HEARING, A PROSECUTOR TELLS 1345 00:47:33,298 --> 00:47:34,463 SAME HEARING, A PROSECUTOR TELLS THE COURT ABOUT THE SECRET DEAL 1346 00:47:34,465 --> 00:47:37,266 THE COURT ABOUT THE SECRET DEAL BETWEEN EPSTEIN AND THE FEDERAL 1347 00:47:37,268 --> 00:47:40,403 BETWEEN EPSTEIN AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 1348 00:47:40,405 --> 00:47:41,037 GOVERNMENT. >> MY CLIENTS AND I ARE LEARNING 1349 00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:41,938 >> MY CLIENTS AND I ARE LEARNING FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT NOT ONLY 1350 00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:42,572 FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT NOT ONLY IS A DEAL DONE, BUT THAT IT WAS 1351 00:47:42,574 --> 00:47:44,040 IS A DEAL DONE, BUT THAT IT WAS DONE MANY, MANY MONTHS BEFORE. 1352 00:47:44,042 --> 00:47:45,575 DONE MANY, MANY MONTHS BEFORE. >> THAT DEAL? 1353 00:47:45,577 --> 00:47:46,642 >> THAT DEAL? THAT THERE WOULD BE NO FEDERAL 1354 00:47:46,644 --> 00:47:49,212 THAT THERE WOULD BE NO FEDERAL CHARGES. 1355 00:47:49,214 --> 00:47:49,779 CHARGES. TURNS OUT EPSTEIN HAD BEEN 1356 00:47:49,781 --> 00:47:52,481 TURNS OUT EPSTEIN HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO QUIETLY TAKE A PLEA 1357 00:47:52,483 --> 00:47:55,451 ALLOWED TO QUIETLY TAKE A PLEA IN STATE COURT TO THAT ONE COUNT 1358 00:47:55,453 --> 00:47:56,519 IN STATE COURT TO THAT ONE COUNT OF SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION 1359 00:47:56,521 --> 00:47:57,153 OF SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION PLUS ONE CHARGE OF SOLICITATION 1360 00:47:57,155 --> 00:47:59,622 PLUS ONE CHARGE OF SOLICITATION OF A MINOR. 1361 00:47:59,624 --> 00:48:01,290 OF A MINOR. >> IT WAS LIKE BEING STRUCK BY A 1362 00:48:01,292 --> 00:48:04,460 >> IT WAS LIKE BEING STRUCK BY A BUS AND NOT KNOWING WHAT HIT 1363 00:48:04,462 --> 00:48:08,464 BUS AND NOT KNOWING WHAT HIT YOU. 1364 00:48:08,466 --> 00:48:09,298 YOU. >> HE WENT FROM FACING DECADES 1365 00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:11,067 >> HE WENT FROM FACING DECADES TO HAVING 18 MONTHS IN JAIL. 1366 00:48:19,911 --> 00:48:21,277 AGREEMENT. >> ALSO IN THE NON-PROSECUTION 1367 00:48:21,279 --> 00:48:26,415 >> ALSO IN THE NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT, IT GAVE IMMUNITY TO 1368 00:48:26,417 --> 00:48:31,220 AGREEMENT, IT GAVE IMMUNITY TO HIS COCONSPIRATORS, ANY AND 1369 00:48:31,222 --> 00:48:32,154 HIS COCONSPIRATORS, ANY AND ALLALL 1370 00:48:32,156 --> 00:48:33,289 ALLALL 1371 00:48:33,291 --> 00:48:36,559 OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE HELPED HIM. 1372 00:48:36,561 --> 00:48:37,293 OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE HELPED HIM. >> ALL POTENTIAL COCONSPIRATORS 1373 00:48:37,295 --> 00:48:38,127 >> ALL POTENTIAL COCONSPIRATORS KNOWN OR UNKNOWN. 1374 00:48:38,129 --> 00:48:39,195 KNOWN OR UNKNOWN. RESTORED COMPLETE IMMUNITY FOR 1375 00:48:39,197 --> 00:48:39,695 RESTORED COMPLETE IMMUNITY FOR NOTHING IN RETURN. 1376 00:48:39,697 --> 00:48:40,196 NOTHING IN RETURN. WHY IN GOD'S NAME, AS A 1377 00:48:40,198 --> 00:48:41,297 WHY IN GOD'S NAME, AS A U.S. ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU EVER 1378 00:48:41,299 --> 00:48:43,332 U.S. ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU EVER ENTER INTO A DEAL LIKE THAT? 1379 00:48:43,334 --> 00:48:46,469 ENTER INTO A DEAL LIKE THAT? >> IT JUST FELT SURREAL. 1380 00:48:46,471 --> 00:48:49,305 >> IT JUST FELT SURREAL. THEY EXCLUDED THE VICTIM FROM 1381 00:48:52,443 --> 00:48:52,909 THE SOLUTION ENTIRELY. I JUST FELT BETRAYED. 1382 00:48:52,911 --> 00:48:57,280 I JUST FELT BETRAYED. >> WE NEVER RECEIVED THE 1383 00:48:57,282 --> 00:48:58,447 >> WE NEVER RECEIVED THE COURTESY OF A CALL TO SAY THAT, 1384 00:48:58,449 --> 00:49:00,249 COURTESY OF A CALL TO SAY THAT, WE ACTUALLY SETTLED WITH THIS 1385 00:49:00,251 --> 00:49:03,552 WE ACTUALLY SETTLED WITH THIS RAGING PEDOPHILE. 1386 00:49:03,554 --> 00:49:04,086 RAGING PEDOPHILE. >> NO ONE EVER CALLED US. 1387 00:49:04,088 --> 00:49:04,520 >> NO ONE EVER CALLED US. NO ONE CONTACTED US. 1388 00:49:04,522 --> 00:49:05,288 NO ONE CONTACTED US. WE NEVER KNEW ANYTHING. 1389 00:49:05,290 --> 00:49:09,292 WE NEVER KNEW ANYTHING. YOU REALLY START WONDERING NOW 1390 00:49:09,294 --> 00:49:09,792 YOU REALLY START WONDERING NOW ABOUT YOUR LEGAL SYSTEM. 1391 00:49:09,794 --> 00:49:11,861 ABOUT YOUR LEGAL SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, WHO IS IT THERE FOR? 1392 00:49:11,863 --> 00:49:12,495 YOU KNOW, WHO IS IT THERE FOR? IT'S FOR THE RICH AND FAMOUS, I 1393 00:49:12,497 --> 00:49:14,997 IT'S FOR THE RICH AND FAMOUS, I GUESS. 1394 00:49:14,999 --> 00:49:17,600 GUESS. >> PART OF THE PLEA? 1395 00:49:17,602 --> 00:49:18,668 >> PART OF THE PLEA? EPSTEIN HAS TO REGISTER AS A SEX 1396 00:49:18,670 --> 00:49:20,736 EPSTEIN HAS TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER. 1397 00:49:20,738 --> 00:49:21,270 OFFENDER. BUT EVEN IN SERVING HIS 1398 00:49:21,272 --> 00:49:24,340 BUT EVEN IN SERVING HIS SENTENCE, EPSTEIN'S CUT BREAKS. 1399 00:49:24,342 --> 00:49:25,274 SENTENCE, EPSTEIN'S CUT BREAKS. >> HE WENT TO SERVE HIS TIME IN 1400 00:49:25,276 --> 00:49:27,977 >> HE WENT TO SERVE HIS TIME IN THE PALM BEACH COUNTY STOCKADE. 1401 00:49:27,979 --> 00:49:28,611 THE PALM BEACH COUNTY STOCKADE. NOBODY SERVES THEIR TIME IN THE 1402 00:49:28,613 --> 00:49:29,545 NOBODY SERVES THEIR TIME IN THE PALM BEACH COUNTY STOCKADE. 1403 00:49:29,547 --> 00:49:33,282 PALM BEACH COUNTY STOCKADE. THERE'S HARDLY ANYBODY IN THERE. 1404 00:49:33,284 --> 00:49:34,450 THERE'S HARDLY ANYBODY IN THERE. HE WAS IN HIS OWN WING. 1405 00:49:34,452 --> 00:49:35,251 HE WAS IN HIS OWN WING. >> AFTER A FEW MONTHS, EPSTEIN 1406 00:49:35,253 --> 00:49:36,319 >> AFTER A FEW MONTHS, EPSTEIN GETS WORK RELEASE PRIVILEGES, 1407 00:49:36,321 --> 00:49:39,455 GETS WORK RELEASE PRIVILEGES, WHICH MEANS THAT FOR UP TO 1408 00:49:39,457 --> 00:49:40,990 WHICH MEANS THAT FOR UP TO SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, UP TO 16 1409 00:49:40,992 --> 00:49:45,294 SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, UP TO 16 HOURS A DAY, HE CAN LEAVE THE 1410 00:49:45,296 --> 00:49:46,028 HOURS A DAY, HE CAN LEAVE THE JAIL AND GO TO HIS OFFICE. 1411 00:49:46,030 --> 00:49:46,195 JAIL AND GO TO HIS OFFICE. A. 1412 00:49:46,197 --> 00:49:49,332 A. >> IT'S MIND-BOGGLING THE BREAKS 1413 00:49:49,334 --> 00:49:49,665 >> IT'S MIND-BOGGLING THE BREAKS THAT HE'S GOT. 1414 00:49:49,667 --> 00:49:51,634 THAT HE'S GOT. >> BUT WHILE THE CRIMINAL CASE 1415 00:49:51,636 --> 00:49:52,268 >> BUT WHILE THE CRIMINAL CASE IS OVER, EPSTEIN'S VICTIMS ARE 1416 00:49:52,270 --> 00:49:56,505 IS OVER, EPSTEIN'S VICTIMS ARE PREPARING TO FIGHT BACK. 1417 00:49:56,507 --> 00:49:57,340 PREPARING TO FIGHT BACK. >> COURTNEY SAID, WE'RE NOT 1418 00:49:57,342 --> 00:49:58,574 >> COURTNEY SAID, WE'RE NOT STOPPING. 1419 00:49:58,576 --> 00:49:59,909 STOPPING. THERE'S NO QUIT IN HER. 1420 00:49:59,911 --> 00:50:00,943 THERE'S NO QUIT IN HER. SO, UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE 1421 00:50:00,945 --> 00:50:01,577 SO, UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FOR 1422 00:50:01,579 --> 00:50:03,579 U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FOR JEFFREY EPSTEIN, THEY GOT THE 1423 00:50:03,581 --> 00:50:04,213 JEFFREY EPSTEIN, THEY GOT THE WRONG PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE 1424 00:50:04,215 --> 00:50:04,847 WRONG PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE IF THEY THINK THAT SHE'S GOING 1425 00:50:04,849 --> 00:50:06,415 IF THEY THINK THAT SHE'S GOING TO BACK DOWN. 1426 00:50:06,417 --> 00:50:07,950 TO BACK DOWN. >> THE VICTIMS ARE DETERMINED TO 1427 00:50:07,952 --> 00:50:09,318 >> THE VICTIMS ARE DETERMINED TO BLOW THE LID ON EPSTEIN'S 1428 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:09,685 BLOW THE LID ON EPSTEIN'S ALLEGED CRIMES. 1429 00:50:09,687 --> 00:50:13,189 ALLEGED CRIMES. THE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST HIM 1430 00:50:13,191 --> 00:50:13,723 THE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST HIM EXPAND BEYOND PALM BEACH, 1431 00:50:13,725 --> 00:50:15,257 EXPAND BEYOND PALM BEACH, ESPECIALLY ALLEGATIONS FROM A 1432 00:50:15,259 --> 00:50:16,459 ESPECIALLY ALLEGATIONS FROM A YOUNG WOMAN NAMED 1433 00:50:16,461 --> 00:50:20,963 YOUNG WOMAN NAMED VIRGINIA ROBERTS. 1434 00:50:20,965 --> 00:50:21,530 VIRGINIA ROBERTS. >> SHE CLAIMS THAT SHE WAS 1435 00:50:21,532 --> 00:50:22,098 >> SHE CLAIMS THAT SHE WAS LOANED OUT TO PRINCE ANDREW. 1436 00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:25,301 LOANED OUT TO PRINCE ANDREW. >> AND SHE HAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF 1437 00:50:25,303 --> 00:50:28,504 >> AND SHE HAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF HERSELF AT 17 YEARS OLD. 1438 00:50:28,506 --> 00:50:32,408 HERSELF AT 17 YEARS OLD. >> THAT WAS PRETTY STUNNING. 1439 00:50:32,410 --> 00:50:33,275 >> THAT WAS PRETTY STUNNING. >> DO YOU KNOW VIRGINIA ROBERTS? 1440 00:50:33,277 --> 00:50:34,477 >> DO YOU KNOW VIRGINIA ROBERTS? >> CAN YOU SPELL IT? 1441 00:50:41,034 --> 00:50:42,101 >>> AT THE CRACK OF DAWN WEDNESDAY, A BLACK SEDAN SPED 1442 00:50:42,103 --> 00:50:43,569 WEDNESDAY, A BLACK SEDAN SPED AWAY FROM THE PALM BEACH COUNTY 1443 00:50:43,571 --> 00:50:45,104 AWAY FROM THE PALM BEACH COUNTY JAIL. 1444 00:50:45,106 --> 00:50:45,671 JAIL. ITS PASSENGER -- PALM BEACH 1445 00:50:45,673 --> 00:50:47,506 ITS PASSENGER -- PALM BEACH BILLIONAIRE JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1446 00:50:47,508 --> 00:50:49,275 BILLIONAIRE JEFFREY EPSTEIN. AFTER A YEAR IN JAIL, EPSTEIN IS 1447 00:50:49,277 --> 00:50:50,342 AFTER A YEAR IN JAIL, EPSTEIN IS A FREE MAN. 1448 00:50:50,344 --> 00:50:53,412 A FREE MAN. >> THIS DEAL, FROM EPSTEIN'S 1449 00:50:53,414 --> 00:50:53,979 >> THIS DEAL, FROM EPSTEIN'S PERSPECTIVE, WAS A HUGE WIN. 1450 00:50:53,981 --> 00:50:54,613 PERSPECTIVE, WAS A HUGE WIN. >> HIS ATTORNEY SAYS HE IS READY 1451 00:50:54,615 --> 00:50:57,083 >> HIS ATTORNEY SAYS HE IS READY TO MOVE ON. 1452 00:50:57,085 --> 00:50:58,317 TO MOVE ON. >> THE SENTENCING THAT HE GOT 1453 00:50:58,319 --> 00:50:59,719 >> THE SENTENCING THAT HE GOT AND THE LENIENCY THAT HE GOT 1454 00:50:59,721 --> 00:51:01,353 AND THE LENIENCY THAT HE GOT MADE ME WANT TO SEEK REVENGE, 1455 00:51:01,355 --> 00:51:02,288 MADE ME WANT TO SEEK REVENGE, ALMOST. 1456 00:51:02,290 --> 00:51:03,456 ALMOST. >> IT MAKES ME SO MAD. 1457 00:51:03,458 --> 00:51:09,562 >> IT MAKES ME SO MAD. THE LAW MATTERS. 1458 00:51:09,564 --> 00:51:10,196 THE LAW MATTERS. WHY DOES IT NOT MATTER FOR HIM? 1459 00:51:10,198 --> 00:51:10,896 WHY DOES IT NOT MATTER FOR HIM? >> WE WANT TO KNOW, WHY DID THIS 1460 00:51:10,898 --> 00:51:14,300 >> WE WANT TO KNOW, WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? 1461 00:51:14,302 --> 00:51:14,967 HAPPEN? >> HE CAME OUT OF JAIL FEELING 1462 00:51:14,969 --> 00:51:18,304 >> HE CAME OUT OF JAIL FEELING MORE UNTOUCHABLE THAN EVER. 1463 00:51:18,306 --> 00:51:21,707 MORE UNTOUCHABLE THAN EVER. >> BUT HE MAY HAVE 1464 00:51:21,709 --> 00:51:22,341 >> BUT HE MAY HAVE UNDERESTIMATED THE DETERMINATION 1465 00:51:22,343 --> 00:51:23,542 UNDERESTIMATED THE DETERMINATION OF MANY OF THE VICTIMS. 1466 00:51:23,544 --> 00:51:25,878 OF MANY OF THE VICTIMS. >> COURTNEY WILD FILES A LAWSUIT 1467 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,512 >> COURTNEY WILD FILES A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT, ALLEGING 1468 00:51:26,514 --> 00:51:29,515 AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT, ALLEGING THAT THEY ILLEGALLY MADE THIS 1469 00:51:29,517 --> 00:51:32,118 THAT THEY ILLEGALLY MADE THIS DEAL WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH THE 1470 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,685 DEAL WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH THE VICTIMS, AS IS REQUIRED BY 1471 00:51:32,687 --> 00:51:32,985 VICTIMS, AS IS REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW. 1472 00:51:32,987 --> 00:51:34,353 FEDERAL LAW. >> COURTNEY IS ALSO SUING 1473 00:51:34,355 --> 00:51:38,357 >> COURTNEY IS ALSO SUING JEFFREY EPSTEIN FOR THE SEXUAL 1474 00:51:38,359 --> 00:51:41,527 JEFFREY EPSTEIN FOR THE SEXUAL ABUSE HE COMMITTED AGAINST HER, 1475 00:51:41,529 --> 00:51:42,328 ABUSE HE COMMITTED AGAINST HER, AND DOZENS OF OTHER VICTIMS ARE 1476 00:51:42,330 --> 00:51:45,097 AND DOZENS OF OTHER VICTIMS ARE ALSO SUING JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1477 00:51:45,099 --> 00:51:46,298 ALSO SUING JEFFREY EPSTEIN. >> THIS IS THE VIDEOTAPED 1478 00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:47,199 >> THIS IS THE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1479 00:51:47,201 --> 00:51:48,768 DEPOSITION OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. >> WE WERE ABLE TO SUBPOENA 1480 00:51:48,770 --> 00:51:52,371 >> WE WERE ABLE TO SUBPOENA WITNESSES, TAKE DEPOSITIONS. 1481 00:51:52,373 --> 00:51:52,972 WITNESSES, TAKE DEPOSITIONS. >> CAN YOU TELL US YOUR FULL 1482 00:51:52,974 --> 00:51:53,506 >> CAN YOU TELL US YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE RECORD? 1483 00:51:53,508 --> 00:51:57,076 NAME FOR THE RECORD? >> JEFFREY EDWARD EPSTEIN. 1484 00:51:57,078 --> 00:51:58,310 >> JEFFREY EDWARD EPSTEIN. >> ISN'T IT TRUE YOU PAY YOUR 1485 00:51:58,312 --> 00:51:59,478 >> ISN'T IT TRUE YOU PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES TO BRING YOU UNDERAGE 1486 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,047 EMPLOYEES TO BRING YOU UNDERAGE MINOR FEMALES FOR SEX? 1487 00:52:02,049 --> 00:52:03,115 MINOR FEMALES FOR SEX? ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU HAVE 1488 00:52:03,117 --> 00:52:03,749 ISN'T IT TRUE THAT YOU HAVE MADE THE STATEMENT, IN QUOTES, 1489 00:52:03,751 --> 00:52:07,787 MADE THE STATEMENT, IN QUOTES, "THE YOUNGER THE BETTER"? 1490 00:52:07,789 --> 00:52:09,321 "THE YOUNGER THE BETTER"? >> IN EVERY SINGLE DEPOSITION, 1491 00:52:09,323 --> 00:52:09,822 >> IN EVERY SINGLE DEPOSITION, EPSTEIN DOES ONE THING. 1492 00:52:09,824 --> 00:52:12,558 EPSTEIN DOES ONE THING. >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION 1493 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,194 >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION ON THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL AT THE 1494 00:52:15,196 --> 00:52:17,663 ON THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL AT THE PRESENT TIME NO MATTER HOW MUCH 1495 00:52:17,665 --> 00:52:17,963 PRESENT TIME NO MATTER HOW MUCH I'D LIKE TO. 1496 00:52:17,965 --> 00:52:18,564 I'D LIKE TO. >> FOR NEARLY EVERY QUESTION 1497 00:52:18,566 --> 00:52:20,132 >> FOR NEARLY EVERY QUESTION THAT WAS OF ANY RELEVANCE, I 1498 00:52:20,134 --> 00:52:21,267 THAT WAS OF ANY RELEVANCE, I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO TAKE THE 1499 00:52:21,269 --> 00:52:21,867 KNEW HE WAS GOING TO TAKE THE FIFTH AND HE WASN'T GOING TO 1500 00:52:21,869 --> 00:52:22,301 FIFTH AND HE WASN'T GOING TO ANSWER. 1501 00:52:22,303 --> 00:52:22,902 ANSWER. >> ON ADVICE OF MY COUNSEL, I 1502 00:52:22,904 --> 00:52:23,536 >> ON ADVICE OF MY COUNSEL, I ASSERT MY FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL 1503 00:52:23,538 --> 00:52:26,305 ASSERT MY FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT UNDER THE FIFTH. 1504 00:52:26,307 --> 00:52:29,542 RIGHT UNDER THE FIFTH. I AM GOING TO TAKE THE FIFTH. 1505 00:52:29,544 --> 00:52:30,142 I AM GOING TO TAKE THE FIFTH. >> MR. EPSTEIN, HOW LONG HAVE 1506 00:52:30,144 --> 00:52:34,180 >> MR. EPSTEIN, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO 1507 00:52:34,182 --> 00:52:34,680 YOU BEEN SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO UNDERAGE MINOR FEMALES? 1508 00:52:34,682 --> 00:52:37,349 UNDERAGE MINOR FEMALES? >> OBJECTION, HARASSING, 1509 00:52:37,351 --> 00:52:38,317 >> OBJECTION, HARASSING, ARGUMENTIVE. 1510 00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:41,520 ARGUMENTIVE. >> ARE YOU KIDDING? 1511 00:52:56,571 --> 00:52:57,203 THAT MAYBE HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY 1512 00:52:57,205 --> 00:52:58,304 SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY STUPID, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HIS 1513 00:52:58,306 --> 00:53:00,506 STUPID, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HIS LAWYERS WERE TELLING HIM TO DO. 1514 00:53:00,508 --> 00:53:02,808 LAWYERS WERE TELLING HIM TO DO. >> IS IT TRUE, SIR, THAT 1515 00:53:02,810 --> 00:53:05,010 >> IS IT TRUE, SIR, THAT YOU HAVE WHAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED 1516 00:53:05,012 --> 00:53:09,715 YOU HAVE WHAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS AN EGG-SHAPED PENIS? 1517 00:53:09,717 --> 00:53:10,316 AS AN EGG-SHAPED PENIS? >> HE SMIRKS. 1518 00:53:10,318 --> 00:53:13,886 >> HE SMIRKS. HE GETS A SMILE ON HIS FACE. 1519 00:53:13,888 --> 00:53:14,453 HE GETS A SMILE ON HIS FACE. I CAN TELL THROUGH HIS BODY 1520 00:53:14,455 --> 00:53:16,856 I CAN TELL THROUGH HIS BODY REACTION THAT HE WAS ANNOYED. 1521 00:53:16,858 --> 00:53:19,058 REACTION THAT HE WAS ANNOYED. AND AS SOON AS HIS LAWYERS GIVE 1522 00:53:19,060 --> 00:53:20,392 AND AS SOON AS HIS LAWYERS GIVE HIM AN OUT, HE GETS UP AND WALKS 1523 00:53:20,394 --> 00:53:21,327 HIM AN OUT, HE GETS UP AND WALKS OUT OF THE ROOM. 1524 00:53:21,329 --> 00:53:23,295 OUT OF THE ROOM. AND THAT WAS IT. 1525 00:53:23,297 --> 00:53:23,929 AND THAT WAS IT. SHORTEST DEPOSITION I THINK I'VE 1526 00:53:23,931 --> 00:53:24,430 SHORTEST DEPOSITION I THINK I'VE EVER TAKEN IN 23 YEARS. 1527 00:53:24,432 --> 00:53:26,298 EVER TAKEN IN 23 YEARS. IT'S OVER IN LESS THAN 1528 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:32,705 IT'S OVER IN LESS THAN 60 SECONDS. 1529 00:53:32,707 --> 00:53:34,273 60 SECONDS. >> I ALSO AM DEPOSING EPSTEIN'S 1530 00:53:34,275 --> 00:53:34,907 >> I ALSO AM DEPOSING EPSTEIN'S STAFF AND FORMER STAFF, TRYING 1531 00:53:34,909 --> 00:53:38,310 STAFF AND FORMER STAFF, TRYING TO FIND ANSWERS. 1532 00:53:38,312 --> 00:53:39,078 TO FIND ANSWERS. >> ONE PERSON QUESTIONED IS 1533 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,314 >> ONE PERSON QUESTIONED IS EPSTEIN'S LONG-TIME ASSISTANT, 1534 00:53:42,316 --> 00:53:44,917 EPSTEIN'S LONG-TIME ASSISTANT, SARAH KELLEN, WHO WAS IDENTIFIED 1535 00:53:44,919 --> 00:53:46,118 SARAH KELLEN, WHO WAS IDENTIFIED IN EPSTEIN'S DEAL WITH THE 1536 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,888 IN EPSTEIN'S DEAL WITH THE GOVERNMENT AS A POTENTIAL 1537 00:53:48,890 --> 00:53:49,755 GOVERNMENT AS A POTENTIAL COCONSPIRATOR? 1538 00:53:49,757 --> 00:53:52,124 COCONSPIRATOR? >> ARE YOU AWARE OF JEFFREY 1539 00:53:52,126 --> 00:53:53,492 >> ARE YOU AWARE OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S SEXUAL OBSESSION FOR 1540 00:53:53,494 --> 00:53:54,593 EPSTEIN'S SEXUAL OBSESSION FOR CHILDREN? 1541 00:53:54,595 --> 00:53:55,628 CHILDREN? >> YOU CAN KEEP ASKING IF 1542 00:53:55,630 --> 00:53:56,195 >> YOU CAN KEEP ASKING IF JEFFREY EPSTEIN WENT TO THE 1543 00:53:56,197 --> 00:53:56,829 JEFFREY EPSTEIN WENT TO THE MOON, SHE'S NOT GOING TO ANSWER 1544 00:53:56,831 --> 00:53:57,196 MOON, SHE'S NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. 1545 00:53:57,198 --> 00:53:57,763 THE QUESTION. >> AT THE INSTRUCTION OF MY 1546 00:53:57,765 --> 00:53:58,397 >> AT THE INSTRUCTION OF MY LAWYER, I MUST INVOKE MY FIFTH 1547 00:53:58,399 --> 00:53:58,764 LAWYER, I MUST INVOKE MY FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT. 1548 00:53:58,766 --> 00:53:59,365 AMENDMENT RIGHT. >> TODAY, SARAH KELLEN CLAIMS 1549 00:53:59,367 --> 00:53:59,999 >> TODAY, SARAH KELLEN CLAIMS SHE WAS TARGETED BY EPSTEIN AND 1550 00:54:00,001 --> 00:54:00,299 SHE WAS TARGETED BY EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL. 1551 00:54:00,301 --> 00:54:02,301 MAXWELL. >> SHE SAYS THAT SHORTLY AFTER 1552 00:54:02,303 --> 00:54:05,504 >> SHE SAYS THAT SHORTLY AFTER SHE MET THEM, THAT EPSTEIN BEGAN 1553 00:54:05,506 --> 00:54:08,173 SHE MET THEM, THAT EPSTEIN BEGAN TO SEXUALLY ABUSE HER. 1554 00:54:08,175 --> 00:54:08,807 TO SEXUALLY ABUSE HER. SHE CLAIMS THAT AT NO TIME DID 1555 00:54:08,809 --> 00:54:10,175 SHE CLAIMS THAT AT NO TIME DID SHE RECRUIT ANYONE ON EPSTEIN OR 1556 00:54:10,177 --> 00:54:10,576 SHE RECRUIT ANYONE ON EPSTEIN OR MAXWELL'S BEHALF. 1557 00:54:10,578 --> 00:54:11,243 MAXWELL'S BEHALF. >> LAWYERS ARE DEPOSING 1558 00:54:11,245 --> 00:54:13,812 >> LAWYERS ARE DEPOSING WITNESSES AND PORING OVER 1559 00:54:13,814 --> 00:54:14,313 WITNESSES AND PORING OVER DOCUMENTS. 1560 00:54:14,315 --> 00:54:16,982 DOCUMENTS. ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE IN 1561 00:54:16,984 --> 00:54:19,184 ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE IN PARTICULAR IS GOING TO EXPOSE 1562 00:54:19,186 --> 00:54:22,321 PARTICULAR IS GOING TO EXPOSE HOW GLOBAL, HOW WELL-CONNECTED, 1563 00:54:22,323 --> 00:54:25,824 HOW GLOBAL, HOW WELL-CONNECTED, HOW POWERFUL EPSTEIN REALLY WAS. 1564 00:54:25,826 --> 00:54:27,660 HOW POWERFUL EPSTEIN REALLY WAS. >> THERE'S MORE FILES HERE AND 1565 00:54:27,662 --> 00:54:30,329 >> THERE'S MORE FILES HERE AND THIS ONE IS THE LITTLE BLACK 1566 00:54:30,331 --> 00:54:31,297 THIS ONE IS THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK, HOLY GRAIL. 1567 00:54:31,299 --> 00:54:33,899 BOOK, HOLY GRAIL. ALL OF THE NUMBERS OF THE RICH 1568 00:54:33,901 --> 00:54:34,199 ALL OF THE NUMBERS OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS. 1569 00:54:34,201 --> 00:54:35,601 AND FAMOUS. >> IT WAS JUST A STACK OF 1570 00:54:35,603 --> 00:54:38,070 >> IT WAS JUST A STACK OF COMPUTERIZED SHEETS WITH 1571 00:54:38,072 --> 00:54:38,504 COMPUTERIZED SHEETS WITH ADDRESSES AND NAMES. 1572 00:54:38,506 --> 00:54:41,607 ADDRESSES AND NAMES. >> IT'S A WHO'S WHO OF WHO'S IN 1573 00:54:41,609 --> 00:54:41,974 >> IT'S A WHO'S WHO OF WHO'S IN EPSTEIN'S WORLD. 1574 00:54:41,976 --> 00:54:42,508 EPSTEIN'S WORLD. NUMBERS FOR PRINCE ANDREW. 1575 00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:45,144 NUMBERS FOR PRINCE ANDREW. NUMBERS FOR THE DUCHESS OF YORK. 1576 00:54:45,146 --> 00:54:46,312 NUMBERS FOR THE DUCHESS OF YORK. >> THERE WAS BILL CLINTON AND 1577 00:54:46,314 --> 00:54:47,579 >> THERE WAS BILL CLINTON AND DONALD TRUMP. 1578 00:54:47,581 --> 00:54:49,181 DONALD TRUMP. >> PRESIDENTS, HEADS OF STATE, 1579 00:54:49,183 --> 00:54:51,250 >> PRESIDENTS, HEADS OF STATE, HEADS OF INDUSTRY. 1580 00:54:51,252 --> 00:54:53,585 HEADS OF INDUSTRY. >> IT APPEARS MANY OF THOSE 1581 00:54:53,587 --> 00:54:57,489 >> IT APPEARS MANY OF THOSE CONNECTIONS WERE FORGED BY HIS 1582 00:54:57,491 --> 00:54:58,524 CONNECTIONS WERE FORGED BY HIS LONG-TIME FRIEND, GHISLAINE 1583 00:54:58,526 --> 00:55:02,294 LONG-TIME FRIEND, GHISLAINE MAXWELL. 1584 00:55:02,296 --> 00:55:05,597 MAXWELL. >> GHISLAINE HAS SOCIAL ENTREE 1585 00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:08,000 >> GHISLAINE HAS SOCIAL ENTREE TO MANY OF THE WORLD'S MOST 1586 00:55:08,002 --> 00:55:09,568 TO MANY OF THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL AND RICHEST FAMILIES. 1587 00:55:09,570 --> 00:55:10,302 POWERFUL AND RICHEST FAMILIES. >> GHISLAINE MAXWELL WAS ROBERT 1588 00:55:10,304 --> 00:55:13,372 >> GHISLAINE MAXWELL WAS ROBERT MAXWELL'S DAUGHTER. 1589 00:55:13,374 --> 00:55:15,341 MAXWELL'S DAUGHTER. AND ROBERT MAXWELL OWNED "THE 1590 00:55:15,343 --> 00:55:17,576 AND ROBERT MAXWELL OWNED "THE DAILY NEWS," OWNED A BUNCH OF 1591 00:55:17,578 --> 00:55:20,913 DAILY NEWS," OWNED A BUNCH OF TABLOIDS IN LONDON. 1592 00:55:20,915 --> 00:55:21,547 TABLOIDS IN LONDON. >> AND IT WAS GHISLAINE MAXWELL 1593 00:55:21,549 --> 00:55:22,181 >> AND IT WAS GHISLAINE MAXWELL WHO WOULD BE PART OF ONE OF THE 1594 00:55:22,183 --> 00:55:22,815 WHO WOULD BE PART OF ONE OF THE MOST DAMNING ALLEGATIONS MADE BY 1595 00:55:22,817 --> 00:55:24,583 MOST DAMNING ALLEGATIONS MADE BY A WOMAN NAMED VIRGINIA ROBERTS. 1596 00:55:24,585 --> 00:55:26,318 A WOMAN NAMED VIRGINIA ROBERTS. >> VIRGINIA ROBERTS FILED A 1597 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,754 >> VIRGINIA ROBERTS FILED A COMPLAINT. 1598 00:55:28,756 --> 00:55:29,588 COMPLAINT. SHE DETAILED HOW SHE WAS 1599 00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:32,358 SHE DETAILED HOW SHE WAS RECRUITED BY GHISLAINE MAXWELL 1600 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,926 RECRUITED BY GHISLAINE MAXWELL AND USED ALMOST AS A SEX SLAVE 1601 00:55:33,928 --> 00:55:34,360 AND USED ALMOST AS A SEX SLAVE TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1602 00:55:34,362 --> 00:55:37,563 TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN. THAT SHE WAS LENT OUT BY JEFFREY 1603 00:55:37,565 --> 00:55:38,330 THAT SHE WAS LENT OUT BY JEFFREY EPSTEIN TO SOME OF HIS FRIENDS. 1604 00:55:38,332 --> 00:55:41,667 EPSTEIN TO SOME OF HIS FRIENDS. >> THIS WAS A BIG DEAL, BECAUSE 1605 00:55:41,669 --> 00:55:44,336 >> THIS WAS A BIG DEAL, BECAUSE SHE'S THE FIRST MINOR TO ACCUSE 1606 00:55:44,338 --> 00:55:46,305 SHE'S THE FIRST MINOR TO ACCUSE EPSTEIN OF LOANING HER OUT TO 1607 00:55:46,307 --> 00:55:47,439 EPSTEIN OF LOANING HER OUT TO OTHER MEN. 1608 00:55:47,441 --> 00:55:50,309 OTHER MEN. AND IN COURT FILINGS, SHE 1609 00:55:50,311 --> 00:55:52,111 AND IN COURT FILINGS, SHE ALLEGES EPSTEIN AND GHISLAINE 1610 00:55:52,113 --> 00:55:52,745 ALLEGES EPSTEIN AND GHISLAINE MAXWELL INSTRUCTED HER TO HAVE 1611 00:55:52,747 --> 00:55:54,213 MAXWELL INSTRUCTED HER TO HAVE SEX WITH PRINCE ANDREW. 1612 00:55:54,215 --> 00:55:54,813 SEX WITH PRINCE ANDREW. >> THE STORY EXPLODED LIKE A 1613 00:55:54,815 --> 00:55:58,350 >> THE STORY EXPLODED LIKE A BOMBSHELL. 1614 00:55:58,352 --> 00:55:59,451 BOMBSHELL. >> NOW TO THE GROWING ROYAL 1615 00:55:59,453 --> 00:56:00,052 >> NOW TO THE GROWING ROYAL SCANDAL ON THE COVER OF EVERY 1616 00:56:00,054 --> 00:56:00,452 SCANDAL ON THE COVER OF EVERY PAPER. 1617 00:56:00,454 --> 00:56:01,053 PAPER. >> WE HAVE THE LATEST NOW ON 1618 00:56:01,055 --> 00:56:02,287 >> WE HAVE THE LATEST NOW ON THAT EXPLOSIVE SCANDAL ROCKING 1619 00:56:02,289 --> 00:56:05,124 THAT EXPLOSIVE SCANDAL ROCKING THE ROYAL FAMILY. 1620 00:56:05,126 --> 00:56:07,626 THE ROYAL FAMILY. >> AND SHE HAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF 1621 00:56:07,628 --> 00:56:10,262 >> AND SHE HAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF HERSELF AT 17 YEARS OLD IN 1622 00:56:10,264 --> 00:56:15,934 HERSELF AT 17 YEARS OLD IN GHISLAINE MAXWELL'S APARTMENT 1623 00:56:15,936 --> 00:56:16,568 GHISLAINE MAXWELL'S APARTMENT WHERE IT IS HER, GHISLAINE AND 1624 00:56:16,570 --> 00:56:16,969 WHERE IT IS HER, GHISLAINE AND PRINCE ANDREW. 1625 00:56:16,971 --> 00:56:17,569 PRINCE ANDREW. >> RECENTLY, VIRGINIA ROBERTS 1626 00:56:17,571 --> 00:56:18,137 >> RECENTLY, VIRGINIA ROBERTS SPOKE TO THE BBC ABOUT HER 1627 00:56:18,139 --> 00:56:26,311 SPOKE TO THE BBC ABOUT HER ALLEGATIONS. 1628 00:56:26,313 --> 00:56:27,413 ALLEGATIONS. >> GHISLAINE TELLS ME THAT I 1629 00:56:27,415 --> 00:56:28,047 >> GHISLAINE TELLS ME THAT I HAVE TO DO FOR ANDREW WHAT I DO 1630 00:56:28,049 --> 00:56:28,947 HAVE TO DO FOR ANDREW WHAT I DO FOR JEFFREY AND THAT MADE ME 1631 00:56:28,949 --> 00:56:34,386 FOR JEFFREY AND THAT MADE ME SICK. 1632 00:56:34,388 --> 00:56:38,290 SICK. IT WAS DISGUSTING. 1633 00:56:38,292 --> 00:56:40,893 IT WAS DISGUSTING. HE GOT UP AND HE SAID THANKS AND 1634 00:56:40,895 --> 00:56:41,493 HE GOT UP AND HE SAID THANKS AND WALKED OUT AND I SAT THERE IN 1635 00:56:41,495 --> 00:56:42,127 WALKED OUT AND I SAT THERE IN BED JUST HORRIFIED AND ASHAMED 1636 00:56:42,129 --> 00:56:44,530 BED JUST HORRIFIED AND ASHAMED AND FELT DIRTY. 1637 00:56:44,532 --> 00:56:46,098 AND FELT DIRTY. >> PRINCE ANDREW HAS DENIED ALL 1638 00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:46,565 >> PRINCE ANDREW HAS DENIED ALL OF THESE ALLEGATIONS. 1639 00:56:46,567 --> 00:56:50,302 OF THESE ALLEGATIONS. IN HIS DEPOSITION, JEFFERY 1640 00:56:50,304 --> 00:56:53,639 IN HIS DEPOSITION, JEFFERY EPSTEIN APPEARS TO HAVE TROUBLE 1641 00:56:53,641 --> 00:56:55,474 EPSTEIN APPEARS TO HAVE TROUBLE REMEMBERING WHO SHE IS. 1642 00:56:55,476 --> 00:56:56,075 REMEMBERING WHO SHE IS. EVEN THOUGH, ACCORDING TO HIS 1643 00:56:56,077 --> 00:56:58,310 EVEN THOUGH, ACCORDING TO HIS FLIGHT LOGS, VIRGINIA ROBERTS, 1644 00:56:58,312 --> 00:57:00,145 FLIGHT LOGS, VIRGINIA ROBERTS, THEN ONLY 17, HAD BEEN ON HIS 1645 00:57:00,147 --> 00:57:02,314 THEN ONLY 17, HAD BEEN ON HIS PLANE MORE THAN 20 TIMES WITH 1646 00:57:02,316 --> 00:57:03,816 PLANE MORE THAN 20 TIMES WITH HIM. 1647 00:57:03,818 --> 00:57:08,954 HIM. >> DO YOU KNOW VIRGINIA ROBERTS? 1648 00:57:08,956 --> 00:57:09,488 >> DO YOU KNOW VIRGINIA ROBERTS? >> SO -- SHE'S AGAIN, WHO? 1649 00:57:09,490 --> 00:57:10,522 >> SO -- SHE'S AGAIN, WHO? >> VIRGINIA ROBERTS. 1650 00:57:10,524 --> 00:57:11,590 >> VIRGINIA ROBERTS. >> CAN YOU SPELL IT? 1651 00:57:11,592 --> 00:57:13,659 >> CAN YOU SPELL IT? >> ACCORDING TO VIRGINIA, IT WAS 1652 00:57:13,661 --> 00:57:15,727 >> ACCORDING TO VIRGINIA, IT WAS GHISLAINE WHO GROOMED THE 1653 00:57:15,729 --> 00:57:17,563 GHISLAINE WHO GROOMED THE VICTIMS, NOT ONLY VIRGINIA, BUT 1654 00:57:17,565 --> 00:57:17,996 VICTIMS, NOT ONLY VIRGINIA, BUT MANY OTHER VICTIMS. 1655 00:57:17,998 --> 00:57:20,933 MANY OTHER VICTIMS. VIRGINIA ROBERTS CLAIMS THAT 1656 00:57:20,935 --> 00:57:21,500 VIRGINIA ROBERTS CLAIMS THAT GHISLAINE WAS BASICALLY HER 1657 00:57:21,502 --> 00:57:23,569 GHISLAINE WAS BASICALLY HER MADAM. 1658 00:57:23,571 --> 00:57:25,604 MADAM. >> GHISLAINE MAXWELL HAS DENIED 1659 00:57:25,606 --> 00:57:26,238 >> GHISLAINE MAXWELL HAS DENIED VIRGINIA ROBERTS' ALLEGATIONS, 1660 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,607 VIRGINIA ROBERTS' ALLEGATIONS, SAYING THEY'RE FALSE. 1661 00:57:28,609 --> 00:57:29,908 SAYING THEY'RE FALSE. AND JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT THIS 1662 00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:31,810 AND JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT THIS STORY COULD ABOUT BE ANY 1663 00:57:31,812 --> 00:57:33,378 STORY COULD ABOUT BE ANY DARKER, ALLEGATIONS SURFACE THAT 1664 00:57:33,380 --> 00:57:34,313 DARKER, ALLEGATIONS SURFACE THAT NOT ONLY WERE WOMEN PREYED ON, 1665 00:57:34,315 --> 00:57:37,549 NOT ONLY WERE WOMEN PREYED ON, BUT ALSO THEIR YOUNGER SISTERS. 1666 00:57:37,551 --> 00:57:38,183 BUT ALSO THEIR YOUNGER SISTERS. >> IT DID NOT OCCUR TO ME THAT 1667 00:57:38,185 --> 00:57:38,750 >> IT DID NOT OCCUR TO ME THAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY ALSO 1668 00:57:38,752 --> 00:57:41,153 THIS COULD POTENTIALLY ALSO HAPPEN TO MY SISTER. 1669 00:57:41,155 --> 00:57:41,753 HAPPEN TO MY SISTER. >> THAT'S THE MOST EGREGIOUS 1670 00:57:41,755 --> 00:57:55,184 >> THAT'S THE MOST EGREGIOUS PART OF THIS. 1671 00:57:55,186 --> 00:57:57,252 PART OF THIS. ♪ 1672 00:57:57,254 --> 00:58:01,423 ♪ >>> GHISLAINE LIVED A 1673 00:58:01,425 --> 00:58:01,990 >>> GHISLAINE LIVED A SPECTACULAR LIFE, THAT OF A 1674 00:58:01,992 --> 00:58:02,891 SPECTACULAR LIFE, THAT OF A JETSETTER, AND SHE TRAVELED ALL 1675 00:58:02,893 --> 00:58:06,094 JETSETTER, AND SHE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE WORLD. 1676 00:58:06,096 --> 00:58:08,831 OVER THE WORLD. >> WE MET AT THE FOUR SEASONS 1677 00:58:08,833 --> 00:58:13,435 >> WE MET AT THE FOUR SEASONS HOTEL IN BEVERLY HILLS. 1678 00:58:13,437 --> 00:58:15,704 HOTEL IN BEVERLY HILLS. THIS TALL WOMAN COMES BREEZING 1679 00:58:15,706 --> 00:58:18,740 THIS TALL WOMAN COMES BREEZING IN AND INTRODUCES HERSELF AND 1680 00:58:18,742 --> 00:58:20,342 IN AND INTRODUCES HERSELF AND SAID, "HI, MY NAME 1681 00:58:20,344 --> 00:58:20,843 SAID, "HI, MY NAME IS GHISLAINE. 1682 00:58:20,845 --> 00:58:21,243 IS GHISLAINE. NICE TO MEET YOU." 1683 00:58:21,245 --> 00:58:21,877 NICE TO MEET YOU." >> CHAUNTAE DAVIES CAME FROM A 1684 00:58:21,879 --> 00:58:23,412 >> CHAUNTAE DAVIES CAME FROM A TROUBLED BACKGROUND, IN AND OUT 1685 00:58:23,414 --> 00:58:25,380 TROUBLED BACKGROUND, IN AND OUT OF HOMELESSNESS. 1686 00:58:25,382 --> 00:58:28,217 OF HOMELESSNESS. IN 2001, SHE'S IN HER EARLY 20s. 1687 00:58:28,219 --> 00:58:29,284 IN 2001, SHE'S IN HER EARLY 20s. LIVING IN LOS ANGELES, AN 1688 00:58:29,286 --> 00:58:30,319 LIVING IN LOS ANGELES, AN ASPIRING ACTRESS. 1689 00:58:30,321 --> 00:58:31,420 ASPIRING ACTRESS. SHE'S ALSO IN TRAINING TO BE A 1690 00:58:31,422 --> 00:58:32,754 SHE'S ALSO IN TRAINING TO BE A MASSEUSE. 1691 00:58:32,756 --> 00:58:35,390 MASSEUSE. WHEN ONE DAY, SHE SAY, HER 1692 00:58:35,392 --> 00:58:37,759 WHEN ONE DAY, SHE SAY, HER MASSAGE TEACHER ASKS HER TO COME 1693 00:58:37,761 --> 00:58:39,394 MASSAGE TEACHER ASKS HER TO COME ALONG ON AN APPOINTMENT, 1694 00:58:39,396 --> 00:58:43,398 ALONG ON AN APPOINTMENT, AND THE CLIENT TURNS OUT TO BE 1695 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,032 AND THE CLIENT TURNS OUT TO BE GHISLAINE MAXWELL. 1696 00:58:44,034 --> 00:58:44,566 GHISLAINE MAXWELL. >> GHISLAINE GAVE HER THE 1697 00:58:44,568 --> 00:58:47,135 >> GHISLAINE GAVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AS A PRIVATE 1698 00:58:47,137 --> 00:58:48,704 OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AS A PRIVATE MASSEUSE FOR JEFFREY EPSTEIN, 1699 00:58:48,706 --> 00:58:50,839 MASSEUSE FOR JEFFREY EPSTEIN, WHO'S THIS BILLIONAIRE WITH JETS 1700 00:58:50,841 --> 00:58:52,074 WHO'S THIS BILLIONAIRE WITH JETS AND HOMES AND ISLANDS. 1701 00:58:52,076 --> 00:58:55,277 AND HOMES AND ISLANDS. >> THEY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO 1702 00:58:55,279 --> 00:58:55,777 >> THEY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO JEFFREY'S ISLAND IN THE 1703 00:58:55,779 --> 00:58:56,044 JEFFREY'S ISLAND IN THE CARIBBEAN. 1704 00:58:56,046 --> 00:58:56,678 CARIBBEAN. DIDN'T ACTUALLY EVEN KNOW THAT 1705 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:57,880 DIDN'T ACTUALLY EVEN KNOW THAT PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY BUY 1706 00:58:57,882 --> 00:58:58,113 PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY BUY ISLANDS. 1707 00:58:58,115 --> 00:59:00,382 ISLANDS. WE LANDED ON ST. THOMAS. 1708 00:59:00,384 --> 00:59:02,851 WE LANDED ON ST. THOMAS. AND THEN WE GOT ON A BOAT AND WE 1709 00:59:02,853 --> 00:59:06,421 AND THEN WE GOT ON A BOAT AND WE DROVE TO HIS ISLAND ACROSS 1710 00:59:06,423 --> 00:59:07,389 DROVE TO HIS ISLAND ACROSS TURQUOISE WATERS. 1711 00:59:07,391 --> 00:59:08,824 TURQUOISE WATERS. THERE WAS DIFFERENT VILLAS ALL 1712 00:59:14,832 --> 00:59:19,368 IT WAS VERY INTOXICATING. >> CHAUNTAE DAVIES WOULD LATER 1713 00:59:19,370 --> 00:59:21,503 >> CHAUNTAE DAVIES WOULD LATER TELL A COURT THAT HER EXPERIENCE 1714 00:59:21,505 --> 00:59:23,038 TELL A COURT THAT HER EXPERIENCE ON THE ISLAND TOOK A DARK WHEN 1715 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:23,572 ON THE ISLAND TOOK A DARK WHEN SHE WAS CALLED IN TO GIVE 1716 00:59:23,574 --> 00:59:26,808 SHE WAS CALLED IN TO GIVE EPSTEIN A MASSAGE. 1717 00:59:26,810 --> 00:59:32,414 EPSTEIN A MASSAGE. >> I STARTED TO MASSAGE HIM. 1718 00:59:32,416 --> 00:59:34,483 >> I STARTED TO MASSAGE HIM. AND HE YANKED ME DOWN ON TOP OF 1719 00:59:34,485 --> 00:59:35,117 AND HE YANKED ME DOWN ON TOP OF THE BED AND PULLED ME ON TOP OF 1720 00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:38,153 THE BED AND PULLED ME ON TOP OF HIM. 1721 00:59:38,155 --> 00:59:38,820 HIM. I SAID, "PLEASE, NO." 1722 00:59:38,822 --> 00:59:39,454 I SAID, "PLEASE, NO." THAT WAS -- THAT WAS ALL I COULD 1723 00:59:39,456 --> 00:59:46,962 THAT WAS -- THAT WAS ALL I COULD GET OUT OF MY MOUTH. 1724 00:59:46,964 --> 00:59:47,596 GET OUT OF MY MOUTH. HE FINISHED AND I RAN OUT BACK 1725 00:59:47,598 --> 00:59:49,565 HE FINISHED AND I RAN OUT BACK TO MY VILLA BAREFOOT. 1726 00:59:50,834 --> 00:59:52,868 TRAPPED, LIKE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR ME TO GO. 1727 00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:55,337 FOR ME TO GO. YOU KNOW, WHO WAS I GOING TO 1728 00:59:55,339 --> 00:59:55,537 YOU KNOW, WHO WAS I GOING TO TELL? 1729 00:59:55,539 --> 00:59:56,371 TELL? GHISLAINE? 1730 00:59:56,373 --> 00:59:56,805 GHISLAINE? >> IN THE CASE OF 1731 00:59:56,807 --> 01:00:01,577 >> IN THE CASE OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN, THE VICTIMS 1732 01:00:01,579 --> 01:00:02,811 JEFFREY EPSTEIN, THE VICTIMS FELT NOT ONLY POWERLESS, BUT 1733 01:00:02,813 --> 01:00:05,447 FELT NOT ONLY POWERLESS, BUT THEY FELT SEDUCED. 1734 01:00:05,449 --> 01:00:06,982 THEY FELT SEDUCED. >> THEY FELT ASHAMED. 1735 01:00:06,984 --> 01:00:08,951 >> THEY FELT ASHAMED. WHO AM I GOING TO TELL? 1736 01:00:08,953 --> 01:00:10,218 WHO AM I GOING TO TELL? I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD 1737 01:00:10,220 --> 01:00:11,353 I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD HELP ME STOP THIS. 1738 01:00:11,355 --> 01:00:13,188 HELP ME STOP THIS. SO, THEY REALLY PROBABLY FELT 1739 01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:14,823 SO, THEY REALLY PROBABLY FELT VERY STUCK. 1740 01:00:14,825 --> 01:00:19,394 VERY STUCK. >> I HAD ALREADY COME FROM A 1741 01:00:24,635 --> 01:00:26,835 IT JUST BECAME A SITUATION WHERE I JUST GOT DEEPER AND DEEPER 1742 01:00:26,837 --> 01:00:28,804 I JUST GOT DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO IT AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO 1743 01:00:35,412 --> 01:00:38,146 OCCASIONALLY WORK FOR AND TRAVEL WITH EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL. 1744 01:00:38,148 --> 01:00:38,747 WITH EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL. BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT EPSTEIN 1745 01:00:38,749 --> 01:00:42,317 BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT EPSTEIN HAD ALLEGEDLY TAKEN A PARTICULAR 1746 01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:43,385 HAD ALLEGEDLY TAKEN A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN CHAUNTAE'S YOUNGER 1747 01:00:43,387 --> 01:00:44,987 INTEREST IN CHAUNTAE'S YOUNGER SISTER, TEALA, WHO WAS JUST 1748 01:00:44,989 --> 01:00:46,688 SISTER, TEALA, WHO WAS JUST 17 AT THE TIME. 1749 01:00:46,690 --> 01:00:48,323 17 AT THE TIME. SHE SAYS THAT EPSTEIN PROMISED 1750 01:00:48,325 --> 01:00:50,959 SHE SAYS THAT EPSTEIN PROMISED TO SEND HER ABROAD TO STUDY AND 1751 01:00:50,961 --> 01:00:51,827 TO SEND HER ABROAD TO STUDY AND TRANSFORM HER LIFE. 1752 01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:55,364 TRANSFORM HER LIFE. >> TEALA DAVIES WOULD LATER GO 1753 01:00:55,366 --> 01:00:56,999 >> TEALA DAVIES WOULD LATER GO PUBLIC. 1754 01:00:57,001 --> 01:00:58,066 PUBLIC. AND IN A LAWSUIT, SHE ALLEGED 1755 01:01:04,808 --> 01:01:05,340 >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN PREYED UPON ME. 1756 01:01:05,342 --> 01:01:07,376 ME. HE PUT ME IN A VULNERABLE AND 1757 01:01:07,378 --> 01:01:08,910 HE PUT ME IN A VULNERABLE AND DEPENDENT SITUATION AND TOOK 1758 01:01:08,912 --> 01:01:11,380 DEPENDENT SITUATION AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ME. 1759 01:01:11,382 --> 01:01:13,649 ADVANTAGE OF ME. I WAS ONLY 17 YEARS OLD. 1760 01:01:13,651 --> 01:01:16,251 I WAS ONLY 17 YEARS OLD. I WAS A LITTLE GIRL. 1761 01:01:16,253 --> 01:01:16,785 I WAS A LITTLE GIRL. >> TEALA TOLD ME WHAT WAS 1762 01:01:16,787 --> 01:01:19,421 >> TEALA TOLD ME WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 1763 01:01:19,423 --> 01:01:20,922 HAPPENING. I TOLD HIM THAT I KNEW WHAT HE 1764 01:01:20,924 --> 01:01:26,662 I TOLD HIM THAT I KNEW WHAT HE HAD DONE TO MY SISTER. 1765 01:01:26,664 --> 01:01:27,262 HAD DONE TO MY SISTER. HE TOLD ME THAT LIFE IS ABOUT 1766 01:01:27,264 --> 01:01:28,764 HE TOLD ME THAT LIFE IS ABOUT REALITY, NOT ABOUT DREAMS. 1767 01:01:28,766 --> 01:01:31,400 REALITY, NOT ABOUT DREAMS. AND THEN HE HUNG UP ON ME. 1768 01:01:31,402 --> 01:01:35,437 AND THEN HE HUNG UP ON ME. AND I NEVER TALKED TO HIM AGAIN. 1769 01:01:35,439 --> 01:01:39,041 AND I NEVER TALKED TO HIM AGAIN. >> USING AN OLDER SISTER TO GET 1770 01:01:39,043 --> 01:01:40,709 >> USING AN OLDER SISTER TO GET TO A YOUNGER SISTER IS SOMETHING 1771 01:01:40,711 --> 01:01:41,743 TO A YOUNGER SISTER IS SOMETHING THAT JEFFREY DID MANY TIMES OVER 1772 01:01:41,745 --> 01:01:44,346 THAT JEFFREY DID MANY TIMES OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 1773 01:01:44,348 --> 01:01:45,380 AND OVER AGAIN. >> YOU SEE THE SISTER PLAYBOOK 1774 01:01:45,382 --> 01:01:47,382 >> YOU SEE THE SISTER PLAYBOOK WHICH EPSTEIN DEPLOYED WITH 1775 01:01:47,384 --> 01:01:49,551 WHICH EPSTEIN DEPLOYED WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, GIRLS AS WELL. 1776 01:01:49,553 --> 01:01:50,919 OTHER, YOU KNOW, GIRLS AS WELL. AND THAT HAPPENED WITH MARIA AND 1777 01:01:50,921 --> 01:01:53,755 AND THAT HAPPENED WITH MARIA AND ANNIE FARMER. 1778 01:01:53,757 --> 01:01:55,957 ANNIE FARMER. >> MARIA FARMER WAS THAT ARTIST 1779 01:01:55,959 --> 01:01:57,993 >> MARIA FARMER WAS THAT ARTIST IN NEW YORK CITY THAT HAD MET 1780 01:01:57,995 --> 01:01:59,294 IN NEW YORK CITY THAT HAD MET EPSTEIN IN THE 1990s. 1781 01:01:59,296 --> 01:02:00,996 EPSTEIN IN THE 1990s. SHE SAYS THAT EPSTEIN AND 1782 01:02:00,998 --> 01:02:02,130 SHE SAYS THAT EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL WERE EXCITED TO FIND OUT 1783 01:02:02,132 --> 01:02:04,132 MAXWELL WERE EXCITED TO FIND OUT THAT SHE HAD A SISTER WHO WAS 1784 01:02:04,134 --> 01:02:06,902 THAT SHE HAD A SISTER WHO WAS TEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN HER. 1785 01:02:06,904 --> 01:02:07,536 TEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN HER. >> FAIRLY EARLY ON, JEFFREY AND 1786 01:02:07,538 --> 01:02:08,904 >> FAIRLY EARLY ON, JEFFREY AND GHISLAINE TOOK AN INTEREST IN 1787 01:02:21,452 --> 01:02:22,050 >> WHAT I UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT MARIA HAD A VERY WEALTHY BOSS 1788 01:02:22,052 --> 01:02:22,684 MARIA HAD A VERY WEALTHY BOSS AND THAT HE MIGHT WANT TO HELP 1789 01:02:22,686 --> 01:02:25,120 AND THAT HE MIGHT WANT TO HELP ME WITH SCHOOL. 1790 01:02:25,122 --> 01:02:26,855 ME WITH SCHOOL. AND I JUST THOUGHT, WOW, THIS 1791 01:02:26,857 --> 01:02:27,322 AND I JUST THOUGHT, WOW, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD THING. 1792 01:02:27,324 --> 01:02:29,658 WOULD BE A GOOD THING. >> JEFFREY HAD PROMISED AN 1793 01:02:29,660 --> 01:02:30,258 >> JEFFREY HAD PROMISED AN EVENTUAL IVY LEAGUE EDUCATION 1794 01:02:30,260 --> 01:02:33,862 EVENTUAL IVY LEAGUE EDUCATION FOR THE 16-YEAR-OLD ANNIE. 1795 01:02:33,864 --> 01:02:35,597 FOR THE 16-YEAR-OLD ANNIE. >> EPSTEIN PERSUADED ANNIE TO 1796 01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:37,666 >> EPSTEIN PERSUADED ANNIE TO COME TO HIM AT HIS RANCH IN NEW 1797 01:02:37,668 --> 01:02:37,899 COME TO HIM AT HIS RANCH IN NEW MEXICO. 1798 01:02:37,901 --> 01:02:39,935 MEXICO. THE SPIEL WAS THAT THERE WAS 1799 01:02:39,937 --> 01:02:42,370 THE SPIEL WAS THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF 1800 01:02:42,372 --> 01:02:43,371 GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF HIGH-ACHIEVING STUDENTS THERE. 1801 01:02:43,373 --> 01:02:46,041 HIGH-ACHIEVING STUDENTS THERE. >> JEFFREY FIRST CALLED ME TO 1802 01:02:46,043 --> 01:02:50,912 >> JEFFREY FIRST CALLED ME TO ASK ME IF ANNIE COULD COME TO 1803 01:02:50,914 --> 01:02:51,413 ASK ME IF ANNIE COULD COME TO THEIR RANCH IN SANTA FE 1804 01:02:51,415 --> 01:02:55,350 THEIR RANCH IN SANTA FE AND I SAID, "WHO IS GOING TO BE 1805 01:02:55,352 --> 01:02:56,885 AND I SAID, "WHO IS GOING TO BE THE CHAPERONE?" 1806 01:02:56,887 --> 01:02:57,919 THE CHAPERONE?" AND HE SAID, "GHISLAINE." 1807 01:02:57,921 --> 01:02:58,954 AND HE SAID, "GHISLAINE." >> ANNIE GETS THERE. 1808 01:02:58,956 --> 01:02:59,521 >> ANNIE GETS THERE. THERE IS NO SCHOOL PROGRAM. 1809 01:02:59,523 --> 01:03:02,891 THERE IS NO SCHOOL PROGRAM. IT'S JUST JEFFREY, GHISLAINE AND 1810 01:03:02,893 --> 01:03:03,358 IT'S JUST JEFFREY, GHISLAINE AND NOW 16-YEAR-OLD ANNIE. 1811 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,193 NOW 16-YEAR-OLD ANNIE. >> ANNIE FARMER SAYS IN COURT 1812 01:03:05,195 --> 01:03:09,264 >> ANNIE FARMER SAYS IN COURT DOCUMENTS THAT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT 1813 01:03:09,266 --> 01:03:14,002 DOCUMENTS THAT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IS THAT MAXWELL REPEATEDLY TELLS 1814 01:03:14,004 --> 01:03:17,072 IS THAT MAXWELL REPEATEDLY TELLS HER SHE WANTS TO GIVE HER A 1815 01:03:17,074 --> 01:03:17,305 HER SHE WANTS TO GIVE HER A MASSAGE. 1816 01:03:17,307 --> 01:03:18,106 MASSAGE. ANNIE SAYS THAT SHE WAS 1817 01:03:18,108 --> 01:03:18,740 ANNIE SAYS THAT SHE WAS UNCOMFORTABLE BUT FELT PRESSURE 1818 01:03:18,742 --> 01:03:19,007 UNCOMFORTABLE BUT FELT PRESSURE TO COMPLY. 1819 01:03:19,009 --> 01:03:19,574 TO COMPLY. >> AND SHE SAID, "OKAY, YOU 1820 01:03:19,576 --> 01:03:20,909 >> AND SHE SAID, "OKAY, YOU KNOW, GET UNDRESSED, AND THEN 1821 01:03:20,911 --> 01:03:22,277 KNOW, GET UNDRESSED, AND THEN COME LAY ON THE TABLE." 1822 01:03:22,279 --> 01:03:22,878 COME LAY ON THE TABLE." AND SHE, YOU KNOW, TOUCHES ME 1823 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,515 AND SHE, YOU KNOW, TOUCHES ME AROUND MY CHEST. 1824 01:03:26,517 --> 01:03:27,916 AROUND MY CHEST. THIS WAS SUCH A SCARY SITUATION 1825 01:03:27,918 --> 01:03:32,988 THIS WAS SUCH A SCARY SITUATION FOR ME, SO, I JUST NEEDED TO, 1826 01:03:32,990 --> 01:03:36,091 FOR ME, SO, I JUST NEEDED TO, LIKE, JUST TO MANAGE THAT AND TO 1827 01:03:36,093 --> 01:03:38,894 LIKE, JUST TO MANAGE THAT AND TO GO ON AS IF EVERYTHING WAS 1828 01:03:38,896 --> 01:03:39,127 GO ON AS IF EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL. 1829 01:03:39,129 --> 01:03:42,497 NORMAL. >> AT ONE POINT, EPSTEIN GETS 1830 01:03:42,499 --> 01:03:43,398 >> AT ONE POINT, EPSTEIN GETS INTO BED WITH ANNIE, WHICH SHE'S 1831 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,966 INTO BED WITH ANNIE, WHICH SHE'S TOTALLY FREAKED OUT BY. 1832 01:03:44,968 --> 01:03:47,002 TOTALLY FREAKED OUT BY. >> LIKE, NO ADULT MAN IS GOING 1833 01:03:47,004 --> 01:03:49,371 >> LIKE, NO ADULT MAN IS GOING TO CRAWL INTO BED YOU WITH AND 1834 01:03:49,373 --> 01:03:50,906 TO CRAWL INTO BED YOU WITH AND HAVE, YOU KNOW -- AND THAT -- 1835 01:03:50,908 --> 01:03:54,776 HAVE, YOU KNOW -- AND THAT -- THAT THAT'S OKAY. 1836 01:03:54,778 --> 01:03:55,410 THAT THAT'S OKAY. I DO REMEMBER MAKING AN EXCUSE 1837 01:03:55,412 --> 01:03:55,977 I DO REMEMBER MAKING AN EXCUSE THAT I NEEDED TO GO TO THE 1838 01:03:55,979 --> 01:03:57,679 THAT I NEEDED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM. 1839 01:03:57,681 --> 01:03:59,247 BATHROOM. I THINK I WAS JUST IN THE 1840 01:03:59,249 --> 01:04:00,682 I THINK I WAS JUST IN THE BATHROOM LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE 1841 01:04:00,684 --> 01:04:01,917 BATHROOM LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE 1842 01:04:01,919 --> 01:04:03,251 SURE THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING HE WOULD BE EXPECTING 1843 01:04:03,253 --> 01:04:04,219 SOMETHING HE WOULD BE EXPECTING TO CONTINUE. 1844 01:04:04,221 --> 01:04:07,389 TO CONTINUE. >> ANNIE WAS VERY QUIET WHEN SHE 1845 01:04:07,391 --> 01:04:09,291 >> ANNIE WAS VERY QUIET WHEN SHE GOT HOME FROM THE TRIP. 1846 01:04:09,293 --> 01:04:11,359 GOT HOME FROM THE TRIP. EVERY TIME I ASKED A QUESTION 1847 01:04:11,361 --> 01:04:13,461 EVERY TIME I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT IT, SHE JUST SAID SHE WAS 1848 01:04:13,463 --> 01:04:14,863 ABOUT IT, SHE JUST SAID SHE WAS TIRED AND DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO 1849 01:04:14,865 --> 01:04:15,230 TIRED AND DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT. 1850 01:04:15,232 --> 01:04:15,864 THINK ABOUT IT. >> MY SISTER NEVER SHARED WITH 1851 01:04:15,866 --> 01:04:17,465 >> MY SISTER NEVER SHARED WITH ME ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAD 1852 01:04:17,467 --> 01:04:19,367 ME ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED WITH GHISLAINE AND 1853 01:04:19,369 --> 01:04:23,371 TRANSPIRED WITH GHISLAINE AND JEFFREY. 1854 01:04:23,373 --> 01:04:24,372 JEFFREY. >> MARIA FARMER SAYS IT WASN'T 1855 01:04:24,374 --> 01:04:26,308 >> MARIA FARMER SAYS IT WASN'T UNTIL A FEW MONTHS LATER, AFTER 1856 01:04:26,310 --> 01:04:27,409 UNTIL A FEW MONTHS LATER, AFTER HER OWN ALLEGED ASSAULT BY 1857 01:04:27,411 --> 01:04:28,009 HER OWN ALLEGED ASSAULT BY EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL THAT SHE 1858 01:04:28,011 --> 01:04:29,911 EPSTEIN AND MAXWELL THAT SHE TALKED TO ANNIE ABOUT IT. 1859 01:04:29,913 --> 01:04:30,478 TALKED TO ANNIE ABOUT IT. >> I DIDN'T WANT HER TO GET 1860 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,548 >> I DIDN'T WANT HER TO GET HURT. 1861 01:04:33,550 --> 01:04:36,351 HURT. SO THAT'S THE MOST EGREGIOUS 1862 01:04:36,353 --> 01:04:37,319 SO THAT'S THE MOST EGREGIOUS PART OF THIS. 1863 01:04:37,321 --> 01:04:40,889 PART OF THIS. THEY WERE MASTER MANIPULATORS. 1864 01:04:40,891 --> 01:04:43,391 THEY WERE MASTER MANIPULATORS. I THINK THAT IT'S A PARTICULAR 1865 01:04:43,393 --> 01:04:44,926 I THINK THAT IT'S A PARTICULAR TYPE OF SICKNESS THAT THEY 1866 01:04:44,928 --> 01:04:47,395 TYPE OF SICKNESS THAT THEY DISPLAYED IN TAKING ADVANTAGE 1867 01:04:47,397 --> 01:04:48,663 DISPLAYED IN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, THE LOVE YOU HAVE 1868 01:04:48,665 --> 01:04:49,731 OF, YOU KNOW, THE LOVE YOU HAVE FOR A SIBLING. 1869 01:04:49,733 --> 01:04:50,165 FOR A SIBLING. >> HE DOESN'T CARE. 1870 01:04:50,167 --> 01:04:58,039 >> HE DOESN'T CARE. HE REALLY DOESN'T CARE. 1871 01:04:58,041 --> 01:04:59,774 HE REALLY DOESN'T CARE. FOR HIM, I THINK, PEOPLE ARE A 1872 01:04:59,776 --> 01:05:02,110 FOR HIM, I THINK, PEOPLE ARE A SPORT. 1873 01:05:02,112 --> 01:05:02,911 SPORT. >> THEY WERE LIKE VAMPIRES. 1874 01:05:02,913 --> 01:05:03,411 >> THEY WERE LIKE VAMPIRES. THEY NEEDED FRESH BLOOD 1875 01:05:03,413 --> 01:05:04,713 THEY NEEDED FRESH BLOOD CONSISTENTLY. 1876 01:05:04,715 --> 01:05:07,282 CONSISTENTLY. >> HE HAD, THROUGH THE YEARS, 1877 01:05:07,284 --> 01:05:08,850 >> HE HAD, THROUGH THE YEARS, ALMOST CONVINCED ME THAT HE 1878 01:05:08,852 --> 01:05:11,653 ALMOST CONVINCED ME THAT HE REALLY WAS UNTOUCHABLE. 1879 01:05:11,655 --> 01:05:14,356 REALLY WAS UNTOUCHABLE. >> HE FLIES IN FROM PARIS ON 1880 01:05:14,358 --> 01:05:14,990 >> HE FLIES IN FROM PARIS ON JULY 6th. 1881 01:05:14,992 --> 01:05:17,158 JULY 6th. HE LANDS ON THE TARMAC IN 1882 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,261 HE LANDS ON THE TARMAC IN PETER BORROW, NEW JERSEY, AND 1883 01:05:19,263 --> 01:05:19,828 PETER BORROW, NEW JERSEY, AND HIS LIFE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE. 1884 01:05:19,830 --> 01:05:20,395 HIS LIFE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE. >> MULTIMILLIONAIRE JEFFREY 1885 01:05:20,397 --> 01:05:20,996 >> MULTIMILLIONAIRE JEFFREY EPSTEIN TONIGHT ARRESTED AND 1886 01:05:20,998 --> 01:05:22,731 EPSTEIN TONIGHT ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH SEX TRAFFICKING. 1887 01:05:22,733 --> 01:05:24,833 CHARGED WITH SEX TRAFFICKING. >> I'M LOOKING AT MY PHONE AND I 1888 01:05:24,835 --> 01:05:27,369 >> I'M LOOKING AT MY PHONE AND I JUST START GETTING TEXT MESSAGES 1889 01:05:27,371 --> 01:05:29,838 JUST START GETTING TEXT MESSAGES FROM FRIENDS SAYING "DID YOU SEE 1890 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,038 FROM FRIENDS SAYING "DID YOU SEE THIS?" 1891 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,257 THIS?" >> I JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT 1892 01:05:36,028 --> 01:05:39,698 >>> IN 2010, AFTER HIS SENTENCE WAS SERVED, IT SEEMED IT WAS 1893 01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:43,969 WAS SERVED, IT SEEMED IT WAS LIFE BACK TO NORMAL FOR EPSTEIN. 1894 01:05:43,971 --> 01:05:44,569 LIFE BACK TO NORMAL FOR EPSTEIN. AND FOR HIS VICTIMS, PROBABLY 1895 01:05:44,571 --> 01:05:48,173 AND FOR HIS VICTIMS, PROBABLY SEEMED UNTOUCHABLE, AS HE SPENT 1896 01:05:48,175 --> 01:05:50,275 SEEMED UNTOUCHABLE, AS HE SPENT MORE AND MORE TIME AT HIS 1897 01:05:50,277 --> 01:05:51,576 MORE AND MORE TIME AT HIS PRIVATE ISLAND RETREAT. 1898 01:05:51,578 --> 01:05:53,912 PRIVATE ISLAND RETREAT. >> EPSTEIN DECIDED TO CHANGE 1899 01:05:53,914 --> 01:05:54,512 >> EPSTEIN DECIDED TO CHANGE RESIDENCY AND TO LIVE ON THE 1900 01:05:54,514 --> 01:05:56,648 RESIDENCY AND TO LIVE ON THE ISLAND PERMANENTLY. 1901 01:05:56,650 --> 01:05:58,049 ISLAND PERMANENTLY. HE WAS RENOVATING THE ENTIRE 1902 01:05:58,051 --> 01:06:03,288 HE WAS RENOVATING THE ENTIRE HOME. 1903 01:06:03,290 --> 01:06:03,888 HOME. >> BY 2018, EPSTEIN PROBABLY 1904 01:06:03,890 --> 01:06:07,926 >> BY 2018, EPSTEIN PROBABLY FEELS LIKE HE'S PUT THIS WHOLE 1905 01:06:07,928 --> 01:06:08,326 FEELS LIKE HE'S PUT THIS WHOLE THING BEHIND HIM. 1906 01:06:08,328 --> 01:06:11,596 THING BEHIND HIM. AND THEN "THE MIAMI HERALD" 1907 01:06:11,598 --> 01:06:12,664 AND THEN "THE MIAMI HERALD" COMES OUT WITH AN IN-DEPTH 1908 01:06:12,666 --> 01:06:15,233 COMES OUT WITH AN IN-DEPTH ARTICLE ABOUT THIS PLEA DEAL 1909 01:06:15,235 --> 01:06:15,767 ARTICLE ABOUT THIS PLEA DEAL THAT OCCURRED BEHIND THE 1910 01:06:15,769 --> 01:06:16,801 THAT OCCURRED BEHIND THE VICTIMS' BACKS. 1911 01:06:16,803 --> 01:06:18,336 VICTIMS' BACKS. SO FOR THE FIRST, THE PUBLIC 1912 01:06:18,338 --> 01:06:19,971 SO FOR THE FIRST, THE PUBLIC HEARS FROM SOME OF HIS PALM 1913 01:06:19,973 --> 01:06:23,975 HEARS FROM SOME OF HIS PALM BEACH VICTIMS. 1914 01:06:23,977 --> 01:06:25,110 BEACH VICTIMS. >> I HAD THIS EXTREME FEAR THAT 1915 01:06:25,112 --> 01:06:27,178 >> I HAD THIS EXTREME FEAR THAT EVERYTHING THAT ME AND A FEW OF 1916 01:06:27,180 --> 01:06:28,246 EVERYTHING THAT ME AND A FEW OF THE OTHER GIRLS DID WITH "THE 1917 01:06:28,248 --> 01:06:31,983 THE OTHER GIRLS DID WITH "THE HERALD" AND TALKING, THAT MADE 1918 01:06:31,985 --> 01:06:33,585 HERALD" AND TALKING, THAT MADE ME NERVOUS NOW THAT HE WAS GOING 1919 01:06:33,587 --> 01:06:34,486 ME NERVOUS NOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO COME AFTER US. 1920 01:06:34,488 --> 01:06:35,553 TO COME AFTER US. >> AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER 1921 01:06:35,555 --> 01:06:35,987 >> AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE FOR EPSTEIN. 1922 01:06:35,989 --> 01:06:38,623 ISSUE FOR EPSTEIN. THERE'S ALSO THIS ONGOING CIVIL 1923 01:06:43,964 --> 01:06:46,464 AND HER LAWYER BRADLEY EDWARDS TO TRY AND HOLD THE GOVERNMENT 1924 01:06:46,466 --> 01:06:47,966 TO TRY AND HOLD THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT INFORMING 1925 01:06:47,968 --> 01:06:51,603 ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT INFORMING THE VICTIMS ABOUT THE DEAL. 1926 01:06:51,605 --> 01:06:52,237 THE VICTIMS ABOUT THE DEAL. >> JUDGE MARRA RULED IN FEBRUARY 1927 01:06:52,239 --> 01:06:55,273 >> JUDGE MARRA RULED IN FEBRUARY THAT THE AGREEMENT VIOLATED THE 1928 01:06:55,275 --> 01:06:56,307 THAT THE AGREEMENT VIOLATED THE RIGHT THE VICTIMS HAD TO 1929 01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:57,876 RIGHT THE VICTIMS HAD TO MEANINGFULLY CONFER WITH THE 1930 01:06:57,878 --> 01:06:58,510 MEANINGFULLY CONFER WITH THE PROSECUTOR IN THE CASE BEFORE IT 1931 01:06:58,512 --> 01:07:01,513 PROSECUTOR IN THE CASE BEFORE IT WAS RESOLVED. 1932 01:07:01,515 --> 01:07:03,982 WAS RESOLVED. >> WHEN A FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS, 1933 01:07:03,984 --> 01:07:07,986 >> WHEN A FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS, "THE GOVERNMENT BROKE THE LAW," 1934 01:07:07,988 --> 01:07:08,787 "THE GOVERNMENT BROKE THE LAW," THIS WAS A HUGE VICTORY FOR 1935 01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:11,956 THIS WAS A HUGE VICTORY FOR COURTNEY AND OTHER VICTIMS. 1936 01:07:11,958 --> 01:07:14,025 COURTNEY AND OTHER VICTIMS. >> THAT VICTORY HAPPENS IN A 1937 01:07:23,970 --> 01:07:24,903 SO-CALLED SWEETHEART DEAL WITH EPSTEIN, IS NOW THE SECRETARY OF 1938 01:07:24,905 --> 01:07:25,336 EPSTEIN, IS NOW THE SECRETARY OF LABOR FOR PRESIDENT 1939 01:07:25,338 --> 01:07:29,574 LABOR FOR PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. 1940 01:07:29,576 --> 01:07:31,142 DONALD TRUMP. >> EVEN AS ALL THESE 1941 01:07:31,144 --> 01:07:31,743 >> EVEN AS ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE HAPPENING IN 1942 01:07:31,745 --> 01:07:32,377 DEVELOPMENTS ARE HAPPENING IN THE BACKGROUND, ALL THESE CIVIL 1943 01:07:32,379 --> 01:07:34,245 THE BACKGROUND, ALL THESE CIVIL SUITS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, 1944 01:07:39,653 --> 01:07:41,119 HE FLIES IN FROM PARIS ON JULY 6th. 1945 01:07:41,121 --> 01:07:42,320 JULY 6th. >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALMOST 1946 01:07:47,994 --> 01:07:50,829 COME. >> MULTIMILLIONAIRE JEFFREY 1947 01:07:50,831 --> 01:07:53,264 >> MULTIMILLIONAIRE JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS ARRESTED SATURDAY 1948 01:07:57,671 --> 01:07:59,971 GIRLS IN FLORIDA AND NEW YORK. >> IT'S BEEN SUCH A LONG TIME 1949 01:08:05,579 --> 01:08:07,178 FINALLY COME. >> MARIA ACTUALLY RECEIVED A 1950 01:08:07,180 --> 01:08:07,378 >> MARIA ACTUALLY RECEIVED A TEXT. 1951 01:08:07,380 --> 01:08:09,280 TEXT. AND SHE JUST YELLED AND I DIDN'T 1952 01:08:09,282 --> 01:08:10,615 AND SHE JUST YELLED AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HAD HAPPENED. 1953 01:08:10,617 --> 01:08:12,751 KNOW WHAT HAD HAPPENED. AND SHE READ IT AND I'M LOOKING 1954 01:08:12,753 --> 01:08:14,686 AND SHE READ IT AND I'M LOOKING AT MY PHONE AND I JUST START 1955 01:08:14,688 --> 01:08:15,653 AT MY PHONE AND I JUST START GETTING TEXT MESSAGES FROM, YOU 1956 01:08:15,655 --> 01:08:16,221 GETTING TEXT MESSAGES FROM, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED. 1957 01:08:16,223 --> 01:08:17,288 KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED. WE WERE SO EXCITED. 1958 01:08:17,290 --> 01:08:17,922 WE WERE SO EXCITED. WE LITERALLY JUMPED UP AND DOWN. 1959 01:08:17,924 --> 01:08:19,958 WE LITERALLY JUMPED UP AND DOWN. WE WERE BOTH CRYING. 1960 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:20,925 WE WERE BOTH CRYING. >> IT'S DEFINITELY, I FEEL 1961 01:08:20,927 --> 01:08:21,159 >> IT'S DEFINITELY, I FEEL RELIEF. 1962 01:08:21,161 --> 01:08:21,659 RELIEF. I DO FEEL RELIEF. 1963 01:08:21,661 --> 01:08:23,962 I DO FEEL RELIEF. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THERE'S 1964 01:08:23,964 --> 01:08:24,562 BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THERE'S STILL A VERY POWERFUL FEELING 1965 01:08:24,564 --> 01:08:25,797 STILL A VERY POWERFUL FEELING OF, OKAY, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN 1966 01:08:25,799 --> 01:08:25,997 OF, OKAY, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT? 1967 01:08:25,999 --> 01:08:27,665 NEXT? >> WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN NOW WITH 1968 01:08:27,667 --> 01:08:29,434 >> WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN NOW WITH THE ARREST OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1969 01:08:29,436 --> 01:08:31,236 THE ARREST OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. >> TODAY IN COURT, PROSECUTORS 1970 01:08:31,238 --> 01:08:32,871 >> TODAY IN COURT, PROSECUTORS LAYING OUT THE DETAILS AND 1971 01:08:32,873 --> 01:08:33,671 LAYING OUT THE DETAILS AND CERTAIN PARTS OF THEIR 1972 01:08:33,673 --> 01:08:35,507 CERTAIN PARTS OF THEIR INVESTIGATION. 1973 01:08:35,509 --> 01:08:36,141 INVESTIGATION. JUST TWO DAYS AFTER HIS ARREST, 1974 01:08:36,143 --> 01:08:37,542 JUST TWO DAYS AFTER HIS ARREST, I WAS RIGHT THERE AT THE FEDERAL 1975 01:08:43,917 --> 01:08:46,885 AND BEHIND ALL OF THIS ARE THE VICTIMS. 1976 01:08:46,887 --> 01:08:48,253 VICTIMS. IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS THEY'VE BEEN 1977 01:08:48,255 --> 01:08:49,821 IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS THEY'VE BEEN FIGHTING, SO, THEY COME TO COURT 1978 01:08:49,823 --> 01:08:51,689 FIGHTING, SO, THEY COME TO COURT TO SEE JEFFREY EPSTEIN IN 1979 01:08:56,863 --> 01:08:58,329 >> FOR THE FIRST TIME, I GET TO SEE, FACE-TO-FACE, THE PERSON 1980 01:08:58,331 --> 01:08:59,497 SEE, FACE-TO-FACE, THE PERSON WHO SEXUALLY ABUSED ME FOR 1981 01:08:59,499 --> 01:08:59,697 WHO SEXUALLY ABUSED ME FOR YEARS. 1982 01:08:59,699 --> 01:09:03,034 YEARS. YEAH, THANK YOU. 1983 01:09:07,541 --> 01:09:09,407 >> WE'RE AWAITING A NEWS CONFERENCE HERE IN NEW YORK CITY 1984 01:09:09,409 --> 01:09:11,976 CONFERENCE HERE IN NEW YORK CITY ON SEX TRAFFICKING CHARGES 1985 01:09:11,978 --> 01:09:18,116 ON SEX TRAFFICKING CHARGES AGAINST BILLIONAIRE FINANCIER 1986 01:09:18,118 --> 01:09:18,616 AGAINST BILLIONAIRE FINANCIER JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1987 01:09:18,618 --> 01:09:19,717 JEFFREY EPSTEIN. >> I'M JUST EMOTIONAL, IT'S A 1988 01:09:19,719 --> 01:09:19,984 >> I'M JUST EMOTIONAL, IT'S A LOT. 1989 01:09:19,986 --> 01:09:20,618 LOT. JUST BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR 1990 01:09:20,620 --> 01:09:21,719 JUST BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG, YOU KNOW? 1991 01:09:21,721 --> 01:09:23,988 SO LONG, YOU KNOW? >> TODAY, WE ANNOUNCE THE 1992 01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:27,692 >> TODAY, WE ANNOUNCE THE UNSEALING OF SEX TRAFFICKING 1993 01:09:27,694 --> 01:09:29,127 UNSEALING OF SEX TRAFFICKING CHARGES AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN. 1994 01:09:29,129 --> 01:09:31,095 CHARGES AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN. VICTIM'S VOICES, INCLUDING THE 1995 01:09:31,097 --> 01:09:33,665 VICTIM'S VOICES, INCLUDING THE MANY VOICES OF EPSTEIN'S ALLEGED 1996 01:09:33,667 --> 01:09:35,967 MANY VOICES OF EPSTEIN'S ALLEGED VICTIMS, MUST BE HEARD. 1997 01:09:35,969 --> 01:09:37,068 VICTIMS, MUST BE HEARD. >> JUST TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE 1998 01:09:37,070 --> 01:09:39,103 >> JUST TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE STANDING UP FOR THE VICTIMS, YOU 1999 01:09:39,105 --> 01:09:39,671 STANDING UP FOR THE VICTIMS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 2000 01:09:39,673 --> 01:09:42,674 KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT IS JUST, LIKE, SO 2001 01:09:42,676 --> 01:09:44,042 IT IS JUST, LIKE, SO OVERWHELMINGLY UN -- IT'S PAST 2002 01:09:44,044 --> 01:09:47,345 OVERWHELMINGLY UN -- IT'S PAST DUE, YOU KNOW? 2003 01:09:47,347 --> 01:09:47,979 DUE, YOU KNOW? >> THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A MASSIVE 2004 01:09:47,981 --> 01:09:50,448 >> THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A MASSIVE INVESTIGATION. 2005 01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:51,082 INVESTIGATION. HOW DO YOU COMPARE THIS TO OTHER 2006 01:09:51,084 --> 01:09:53,585 HOW DO YOU COMPARE THIS TO OTHER SEX TRAFFICKING CASES YOU'VE 2007 01:09:53,587 --> 01:09:55,954 SEX TRAFFICKING CASES YOU'VE PROSECUTED IN THE PAST? 2008 01:09:55,956 --> 01:09:56,454 PROSECUTED IN THE PAST? >> WELL, IT'S EXTREMELY 2009 01:09:56,456 --> 01:09:57,155 >> WELL, IT'S EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT, BECAUSE OF THE 2010 01:09:57,157 --> 01:09:58,056 SIGNIFICANT, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF YEARS AND THE NUMBER 2011 01:09:58,058 --> 01:10:02,093 NUMBER OF YEARS AND THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS. 2012 01:10:02,095 --> 01:10:03,795 OF VICTIMS. >> THE FIRST COURT APPEARANCE 2013 01:10:03,797 --> 01:10:07,866 >> THE FIRST COURT APPEARANCE WITH HIM WAS A VERY BIG HOOPLA. 2014 01:10:07,868 --> 01:10:08,399 WITH HIM WAS A VERY BIG HOOPLA. I DEFINITELY SAW HIM LOOK 2015 01:10:08,401 --> 01:10:11,336 I DEFINITELY SAW HIM LOOK RESIGNED. 2016 01:10:11,338 --> 01:10:13,638 RESIGNED. HE'S WEARING PRISON GARB, WHICH 2017 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,205 HE'S WEARING PRISON GARB, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT 2018 01:10:14,207 --> 01:10:15,707 IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO WEAR. 2019 01:10:15,709 --> 01:10:16,341 EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO WEAR. I NEVER HEARD HIM SPEAK, EXCEPT 2020 01:10:16,343 --> 01:10:18,810 I NEVER HEARD HIM SPEAK, EXCEPT FOR THE NOT GUILTY. 2021 01:10:18,812 --> 01:10:19,978 FOR THE NOT GUILTY. >> WHEN YOU SAW HIM, IT JUST 2022 01:10:19,980 --> 01:10:22,914 >> WHEN YOU SAW HIM, IT JUST BROUGHT BACK BAD MEMORIES? 2023 01:10:22,916 --> 01:10:24,549 BROUGHT BACK BAD MEMORIES? >> YEAH, IT BROUGHT BACK THE 2024 01:10:24,551 --> 01:10:26,117 >> YEAH, IT BROUGHT BACK THE LAST TIME I SAW HIM, WHICH WAS 2025 01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:26,818 LAST TIME I SAW HIM, WHICH WAS RIGHT THERE AT THE MASSAGE TABLE 2026 01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:32,790 RIGHT THERE AT THE MASSAGE TABLE AND IT JUST STARTED MA ED MAKIN 2027 01:10:32,792 --> 01:10:33,758 AND IT JUST STARTED MA ED MAKIN FEEL UNEASY. 2028 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,662 FEEL UNEASY. >> TODAY WAS BITTERSWEET. 2029 01:10:37,664 --> 01:10:38,263 >> TODAY WAS BITTERSWEET. I GOT TO SEE HIM, IT BROUGHT 2030 01:10:38,265 --> 01:10:39,230 I GOT TO SEE HIM, IT BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES. 2031 01:10:39,232 --> 01:10:41,933 BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES. BUT IN THE SAME WAY, IT'S LIKE 2032 01:10:41,935 --> 01:10:43,968 BUT IN THE SAME WAY, IT'S LIKE OKAY, I CAN START TO MOVE ON, 2033 01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:45,770 OKAY, I CAN START TO MOVE ON, LIKE, THERE IS HOPE. 2034 01:10:45,772 --> 01:10:48,006 LIKE, THERE IS HOPE. >> LIKE OUR STORIES ARE 2035 01:10:48,008 --> 01:10:51,376 >> LIKE OUR STORIES ARE MATTERING. 2036 01:10:51,378 --> 01:10:52,010 MATTERING. AND NOBODY IS WANTING TO MESS UP 2037 01:10:52,012 --> 01:10:53,411 AND NOBODY IS WANTING TO MESS UP WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO HIM, 2038 01:10:53,413 --> 01:10:55,980 WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO HIM, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS PAYING 2039 01:10:55,982 --> 01:10:57,749 BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION. 2040 01:10:57,751 --> 01:10:59,150 ATTENTION. >> JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S MONEY, 2041 01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:03,554 WEREN'T GOING TO GET HIM OUT OF THIS CASE. 2042 01:11:03,556 --> 01:11:04,188 THIS CASE. AND THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH HIM, 2043 01:11:04,190 --> 01:11:05,890 AND THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH HIM, THOSE THAT HE CUT DEALS WITH, 2044 01:11:05,892 --> 01:11:07,325 THOSE THAT HE CUT DEALS WITH, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER SOME 2045 01:11:07,327 --> 01:11:08,459 ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER SOME VERY TOUGH QUESTIONS. 2046 01:11:08,461 --> 01:11:09,894 VERY TOUGH QUESTIONS. >> THEIR JUDGMENT'S GOING TO 2047 01:11:09,896 --> 01:11:10,094 >> THEIR JUDGMENT'S GOING TO COME. 2048 01:11:10,096 --> 01:11:12,347 COME. THEY'D BETTER BE READY FOR THE 2049 01:11:16,552 --> 01:11:19,454 >>> THANKS FOR JOINING US. WE ARE COMING ON THE AIR WITH 2050 01:11:24,628 --> 01:11:25,226 LIFE. EPSTEIN WAS FOUND DEAD IN HIS 2051 01:11:25,228 --> 01:11:25,860 EPSTEIN WAS FOUND DEAD IN HIS CELL IN AN APPARENT SUICIDE BY 2052 01:11:25,862 --> 01:11:29,297 CELL IN AN APPARENT SUICIDE BY HANGING. 2053 01:11:29,299 --> 01:11:31,232 HANGING. >> THIS AUGUST, JUST A MONTH 2054 01:11:31,234 --> 01:11:31,866 >> THIS AUGUST, JUST A MONTH AFTER HIS ARREST, THE CRUSADE BY 2055 01:11:31,868 --> 01:11:33,401 AFTER HIS ARREST, THE CRUSADE BY THE VICTIMS OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN 2056 01:11:33,403 --> 01:11:37,305 THE VICTIMS OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE IN A 2057 01:11:37,307 --> 01:11:39,641 TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE IN A COURT OF LAW COMES TO A 2058 01:11:39,643 --> 01:11:40,208 COURT OF LAW COMES TO A SURPRISING AND SHOCKING END. 2059 01:11:40,210 --> 01:11:41,209 SURPRISING AND SHOCKING END. >> EPSTEIN WAS FOUND IN HIS CELL 2060 01:11:41,211 --> 01:11:42,777 >> EPSTEIN WAS FOUND IN HIS CELL UNRESPONSIVE HERE AT MCC AT 2061 01:11:42,779 --> 01:11:45,613 UNRESPONSIVE HERE AT MCC AT ABOUT 6:30 THIS MORNING. 2062 01:11:45,615 --> 01:11:47,115 ABOUT 6:30 THIS MORNING. >> THERE ARE MOUNTING CALLS FOR 2063 01:11:47,117 --> 01:11:48,583 >> THERE ARE MOUNTING CALLS FOR AN INVESTIGATION INTO HOW THIS 2064 01:11:48,585 --> 01:11:49,284 AN INVESTIGATION INTO HOW THIS COULD EVEN HAPPEN. 2065 01:11:49,286 --> 01:11:50,985 COULD EVEN HAPPEN. >> WHY WASN'T EPSTEIN ON SUICIDE 2066 01:11:50,987 --> 01:11:51,753 >> WHY WASN'T EPSTEIN ON SUICIDE WATCH AFTER A PREVIOUS ATTEMPT 2067 01:11:51,755 --> 01:11:53,221 WATCH AFTER A PREVIOUS ATTEMPT ON HIS LIFE? 2068 01:11:53,223 --> 01:11:55,256 ON HIS LIFE? WHO'S TO BLAME FOR THE SYSTEM'S 2069 01:11:55,258 --> 01:11:57,292 WHO'S TO BLAME FOR THE SYSTEM'S FAILURE? 2070 01:11:57,294 --> 01:11:58,960 FAILURE? >> MY HEART STARTED JUST RACING. 2071 01:11:58,962 --> 01:12:01,529 >> MY HEART STARTED JUST RACING. AND I WAS JUST LIKE -- THIS HAS 2072 01:12:01,531 --> 01:12:01,863 AND I WAS JUST LIKE -- THIS HAS TO BE FAKE. 2073 01:12:01,865 --> 01:12:05,266 TO BE FAKE. >> THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS 2074 01:12:05,268 --> 01:12:06,000 >> THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS SURROUNDING HIS DEATH. 2075 01:12:06,002 --> 01:12:07,568 SURROUNDING HIS DEATH. I MEAN, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 2076 01:12:07,570 --> 01:12:09,270 I MEAN, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? >> NOW THEY'VE MADE SURE WE 2077 01:12:09,272 --> 01:12:12,640 >> NOW THEY'VE MADE SURE WE NEVER KNOW EVERYTHING. 2078 01:12:12,642 --> 01:12:13,374 NEVER KNOW EVERYTHING. THERE'S NO WAY THAT GUY TOOK HIS 2079 01:12:25,255 --> 01:12:25,987 AND THAT JUSTICE HAS BEEN ROBBED FROM ME AND FROM MANY OTHERS. 2080 01:12:25,989 --> 01:12:29,724 FROM ME AND FROM MANY OTHERS. >> THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS 2081 01:12:38,968 --> 01:12:39,500 BE HEARD. >> ALL RIGHT, GUYS, STAY. 2082 01:12:39,502 --> 01:12:40,034 >> ALL RIGHT, GUYS, STAY. NO BARK. 2083 01:12:40,036 --> 01:12:41,269 NO BARK. MOMMY ALWAYS COMES BACK. 2084 01:12:41,271 --> 01:12:43,237 MOMMY ALWAYS COMES BACK. I LOVE YOU. 2085 01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:48,609 I LOVE YOU. BE GOOD. 2086 01:12:52,949 --> 01:12:53,281 I FEEL LIKE I CANNOT WAIT TO SPEAK. 2087 01:12:53,283 --> 01:12:55,717 SPEAK. THE ONLY THING, OF COURSE, FOR 2088 01:13:00,557 --> 01:13:01,289 NEEDED TO HEAR THIS WAS -- IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE NOW, YOU 2089 01:13:01,291 --> 01:13:03,991 NOT GOING TO BE THERE NOW, YOU KNOW? 2090 01:13:10,734 --> 01:13:13,334 BEFORE THE SEX TRAFFICKING CASE AGAINST THE LATE FINANCIER COMES 2091 01:13:13,336 --> 01:13:17,004 AGAINST THE LATE FINANCIER COMES TO AN END. 2092 01:13:17,006 --> 01:13:17,638 TO AN END. >> IT'S UNUSUAL FOR VICTIMS TO 2093 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,340 >> IT'S UNUSUAL FOR VICTIMS TO GIVE IMPACT STATEMENTS AFTER THE 2094 01:13:19,342 --> 01:13:19,741 GIVE IMPACT STATEMENTS AFTER THE DEFENDANT IS DEAD. 2095 01:13:19,743 --> 01:13:21,309 DEFENDANT IS DEAD. BUT THESE VICTIMS HAD BEEN 2096 01:13:21,311 --> 01:13:25,279 BUT THESE VICTIMS HAD BEEN WRONGED FOR A LOT OF YEARS. 2097 01:13:25,281 --> 01:13:28,449 WRONGED FOR A LOT OF YEARS. AND I THINK THE JUDGE JUST FELT 2098 01:13:28,451 --> 01:13:29,283 AND I THINK THE JUDGE JUST FELT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS FINALLY 2099 01:13:29,285 --> 01:13:31,552 THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS FINALLY TO LET THEM HAVE THEIR SAY. 2100 01:13:31,554 --> 01:13:33,621 TO LET THEM HAVE THEIR SAY. >> MOST OF US SPOKE AND WE SAID 2101 01:13:33,623 --> 01:13:37,291 >> MOST OF US SPOKE AND WE SAID WHAT WE HAD TO SAY, BUT IT WAS 2102 01:13:37,293 --> 01:13:41,129 WHAT WE HAD TO SAY, BUT IT WAS LIKE RELIVING AND GOING BACK TO 2103 01:13:41,131 --> 01:13:43,664 LIKE RELIVING AND GOING BACK TO THAT 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL, TO ME, 2104 01:13:43,666 --> 01:13:45,366 THAT 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL, TO ME, WALKING UP HIS STAIRCASE. 2105 01:13:45,368 --> 01:13:46,267 WALKING UP HIS STAIRCASE. JEFFREY EPSTEIN ROBBED MYSELF 2106 01:13:46,269 --> 01:13:46,901 JEFFREY EPSTEIN ROBBED MYSELF AND ALL THE OTHER VICTIMS OF OUR 2107 01:13:46,903 --> 01:13:47,568 AND ALL THE OTHER VICTIMS OF OUR DAY IN COURT TO CONFRONT HIM ONE 2108 01:13:47,570 --> 01:13:48,569 DAY IN COURT TO CONFRONT HIM ONE BY ONE. 2109 01:13:48,571 --> 01:13:50,905 BY ONE. AND FOR THAT, HE IS A COWARD. 2110 01:13:50,907 --> 01:13:52,240 AND FOR THAT, HE IS A COWARD. >> WHAT HAPPENED TO ME OCCURRED 2111 01:13:52,242 --> 01:13:53,541 >> WHAT HAPPENED TO ME OCCURRED MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS IN 2112 01:13:53,543 --> 01:13:54,208 MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IT STILL 2113 01:13:54,210 --> 01:13:55,943 HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IT STILL AFFECTS MY LIFE. 2114 01:13:55,945 --> 01:13:57,678 AFFECTS MY LIFE. >> I WILL NOT STOP FIGHTING. 2115 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,515 >> I WILL NOT STOP FIGHTING. AND I WILL NOT BE SILENCED 2116 01:14:00,517 --> 01:14:01,282 AND I WILL NOT BE SILENCED ANYMORE. 2117 01:14:01,284 --> 01:14:04,685 ANYMORE. >> SO, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF 2118 01:14:04,687 --> 01:14:05,987 >> SO, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THEM SAYING, I THOUGHT YOU WERE 2119 01:14:05,989 --> 01:14:07,989 THEM SAYING, I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE MOST POWERFUL MAN AND THAT I 2120 01:14:07,991 --> 01:14:09,357 THE MOST POWERFUL MAN AND THAT I WAS NOTHING, BUT GUESS WHAT? 2121 01:14:09,359 --> 01:14:13,327 WAS NOTHING, BUT GUESS WHAT? I'M ALIVE TODAY AND YOU'RE NOT. 2122 01:14:13,329 --> 01:14:13,961 I'M ALIVE TODAY AND YOU'RE NOT. >> THAT DAY WAS VERY EMOTIONAL, 2123 01:14:13,963 --> 01:14:16,130 >> THAT DAY WAS VERY EMOTIONAL, TO RELIVE THAT TRAUMA. 2124 01:14:16,132 --> 01:14:16,731 TO RELIVE THAT TRAUMA. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I 2125 01:14:16,733 --> 01:14:19,367 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I JUST FELT LIGHTER. 2126 01:14:24,474 --> 01:14:27,041 STILL WANT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE PEOPLE THEY SAY HELPED 2127 01:14:27,043 --> 01:14:28,109 THE PEOPLE THEY SAY HELPED JEFFREY EPSTEIN WITH HIS SEXUAL 2128 01:14:28,111 --> 01:14:29,110 JEFFREY EPSTEIN WITH HIS SEXUAL RECRUITMENT NETWORK. 2129 01:14:29,112 --> 01:14:29,644 RECRUITMENT NETWORK. >> IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY 2130 01:14:29,646 --> 01:14:35,349 >> IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH THAT THERE'S 2131 01:14:35,351 --> 01:14:36,384 STOMACH THAT THERE'S PERPETRATORS OUT THERE THAT 2132 01:14:36,386 --> 01:14:36,984 PERPETRATORS OUT THERE THAT OBVIOUSLY HELPED HIM IN MANY 2133 01:14:36,986 --> 01:14:38,986 OBVIOUSLY HELPED HIM IN MANY WAYS FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND 2134 01:14:38,988 --> 01:14:39,554 WAYS FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND ARE STILL OUT THERE WITH NO 2135 01:14:39,556 --> 01:14:40,054 ARE STILL OUT THERE WITH NO PUNISHMENT. 2136 01:14:40,056 --> 01:14:41,289 PUNISHMENT. >> BUT THE VICTIMS ALSO HAVE A 2137 01:14:41,291 --> 01:14:41,923 >> BUT THE VICTIMS ALSO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR THE FEDERAL 2138 01:14:41,925 --> 01:14:45,259 LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 2139 01:14:45,261 --> 01:14:45,827 GOVERNMENT. AFTER EPSTEIN'S ARREST, AN 2140 01:14:45,829 --> 01:14:46,828 AFTER EPSTEIN'S ARREST, AN INTENSE SPOTLIGHT IS FOCUSED ON 2141 01:14:46,830 --> 01:14:48,362 INTENSE SPOTLIGHT IS FOCUSED ON THE LABOR SECRETARY, ALEX 2142 01:14:48,364 --> 01:14:48,596 THE LABOR SECRETARY, ALEX ACOSTA. 2143 01:14:48,598 --> 01:14:49,964 ACOSTA. HE'S THE FORMER FEDERAL 2144 01:14:49,966 --> 01:14:52,533 HE'S THE FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR WHO MADE THAT 2145 01:14:52,535 --> 01:14:53,267 PROSECUTOR WHO MADE THAT CONTROVERSIAL DEAL WITH EPSTEIN 2146 01:14:53,269 --> 01:14:56,170 CONTROVERSIAL DEAL WITH EPSTEIN BACK IN PALM BEACH. 2147 01:14:56,172 --> 01:14:56,804 BACK IN PALM BEACH. >> DID SOMEONE AT DOJ TELL YOU 2148 01:14:56,806 --> 01:14:57,438 >> DID SOMEONE AT DOJ TELL YOU OR ORDER YOU TO CUT A DEAL WITH 2149 01:14:57,440 --> 01:14:58,739 OR ORDER YOU TO CUT A DEAL WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN? 2150 01:14:58,741 --> 01:15:02,944 JEFFREY EPSTEIN? >> WHEN THE CAREER ATTORNEYS MET 2151 01:15:02,946 --> 01:15:05,012 >> WHEN THE CAREER ATTORNEYS MET WITH HIM, THEY PRESENTED CERTAIN 2152 01:15:05,014 --> 01:15:05,646 WITH HIM, THEY PRESENTED CERTAIN TERMS AND THE OFFICE STAYED TRUE 2153 01:15:05,648 --> 01:15:09,317 TERMS AND THE OFFICE STAYED TRUE TO THOSE TERMS THROUGHOUT. 2154 01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:09,917 TO THOSE TERMS THROUGHOUT. WE BELIEVE THAT WE PROCEEDED 2155 01:15:09,919 --> 01:15:13,821 WE BELIEVE THAT WE PROCEEDED APPROPRIATELY. 2156 01:15:13,823 --> 01:15:16,591 APPROPRIATELY. BASED ON THE EVIDENCE, THERE WAS 2157 01:15:16,593 --> 01:15:17,291 BASED ON THE EVIDENCE, THERE WAS VALUE TO GETTING A GUILTY PLEA. 2158 01:15:17,293 --> 01:15:18,693 VALUE TO GETTING A GUILTY PLEA. >> UNDER RELENTLESS QUESTIONING, 2159 01:15:18,695 --> 01:15:20,228 >> UNDER RELENTLESS QUESTIONING, JUST NINE DAYS LATER, ACOSTA 2160 01:15:24,534 --> 01:15:26,300 >> AND SO I CALLED THE PRESIDENT THIS MORNING, I TOLD HIM THAT I 2161 01:15:26,302 --> 01:15:29,170 THIS MORNING, I TOLD HIM THAT I THOUGHT THE RIGHT THING WAS TO 2162 01:15:29,172 --> 01:15:29,470 THOUGHT THE RIGHT THING WAS TO STEP ASIDE. 2163 01:15:29,472 --> 01:15:31,339 STEP ASIDE. >> THERE WERE ALSO QUESTIONS FOR 2164 01:15:31,341 --> 01:15:35,877 >> THERE WERE ALSO QUESTIONS FOR BILLIONAIRE LES WEXNER. 2165 01:15:35,879 --> 01:15:36,511 BILLIONAIRE LES WEXNER. WHY DID LES WEXNER PUT SO MUCH 2166 01:15:36,513 --> 01:15:37,278 WHY DID LES WEXNER PUT SO MUCH TRUST IN THIS GUY, JEFFREY 2167 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,980 TRUST IN THIS GUY, JEFFREY EPSTEIN? 2168 01:15:38,982 --> 01:15:41,582 EPSTEIN? WEXNER SAID HE CUT TIES WITH HIM 2169 01:15:41,584 --> 01:15:45,219 WEXNER SAID HE CUT TIES WITH HIM IN 2007 AND HAD NO IDEA EPSTEIN 2170 01:15:45,221 --> 01:15:45,686 IN 2007 AND HAD NO IDEA EPSTEIN WAS A SEXUAL PREDATOR. 2171 01:15:45,688 --> 01:15:49,290 WAS A SEXUAL PREDATOR. WEXNER ALSO TOLD HIS INVESTORS 2172 01:15:49,292 --> 01:15:51,459 WEXNER ALSO TOLD HIS INVESTORS THAT EPSTEIN HAD MISAPPROPRIATED 2173 01:15:51,461 --> 01:15:53,261 THAT EPSTEIN HAD MISAPPROPRIATED AT LEAST $46 MILLION FROM HIM 2174 01:15:53,263 --> 01:15:55,329 AT LEAST $46 MILLION FROM HIM AND HIS FAMILY. 2175 01:15:55,331 --> 01:15:57,265 AND HIS FAMILY. >> BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY 2176 01:15:57,267 --> 01:16:01,269 >> BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY SOMEONE WHO WAS SO SICK, SO 2177 01:16:01,271 --> 01:16:02,870 SOMEONE WHO WAS SO SICK, SO CUNNING, SO DEPRAVED, IS 2178 01:16:02,872 --> 01:16:03,905 CUNNING, SO DEPRAVED, IS SOMETHING THAT I'M EMBARRASSED 2179 01:16:03,907 --> 01:16:05,907 SOMETHING THAT I'M EMBARRASSED THAT I WAS EVEN CLOSE TO. 2180 01:16:05,909 --> 01:16:07,341 THAT I WAS EVEN CLOSE TO. >> BUT PERHAPS THE MOST 2181 01:16:07,343 --> 01:16:09,076 >> BUT PERHAPS THE MOST PROMINENT NAME THAT REMAINED IN 2182 01:16:09,078 --> 01:16:09,710 PROMINENT NAME THAT REMAINED IN THE NEWS SINCE EPSTEIN'S DEATH 2183 01:16:09,712 --> 01:16:11,112 THE NEWS SINCE EPSTEIN'S DEATH HAS BEEN PRINCE ANDREW. 2184 01:16:11,114 --> 01:16:11,712 HAS BEEN PRINCE ANDREW. >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF PRINCE 2185 01:16:11,714 --> 01:16:13,314 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF PRINCE ANDREW'S DENIALS? 2186 01:16:13,316 --> 01:16:16,884 ANDREW'S DENIALS? CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? 2187 01:16:16,886 --> 01:16:17,351 CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? HE HAS BEEN OUTSPOKEN. 2188 01:16:17,353 --> 01:16:18,953 HE HAS BEEN OUTSPOKEN. >> HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S 2189 01:16:18,955 --> 01:16:19,587 >> HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DONE AND I HOPE HE COMES CLEAN 2190 01:16:19,589 --> 01:16:21,956 DONE AND I HOPE HE COMES CLEAN ABOUT IT. 2191 01:16:21,958 --> 01:16:24,959 ABOUT IT. >> TONIGHT, FOR THE FIRST TIME, 2192 01:16:33,836 --> 01:16:35,903 HE DENIED HAVING SEX WITH VIRGINIA ROBERTS, QUESTIONED 2193 01:16:35,905 --> 01:16:37,305 VIRGINIA ROBERTS, QUESTIONED EVEN MEETING HER. 2194 01:16:37,307 --> 01:16:39,006 EVEN MEETING HER. >> I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF 2195 01:16:39,008 --> 01:16:39,607 >> I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF EVER MEETING THIS LADY, NONE 2196 01:16:39,609 --> 01:16:43,344 EVER MEETING THIS LADY, NONE WHATSOEVER. 2197 01:16:43,346 --> 01:16:45,313 WHATSOEVER. WE CAN'T BE CERTAIN AS TO 2198 01:16:45,315 --> 01:16:46,814 WE CAN'T BE CERTAIN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S MY HAND ON 2199 01:16:46,816 --> 01:16:49,283 WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S MY HAND ON HER, WHATEVER IT IS, LEFT -- 2200 01:16:49,285 --> 01:16:50,451 HER, WHATEVER IT IS, LEFT -- LEFT SIDE. 2201 01:16:50,453 --> 01:16:53,287 LEFT SIDE. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, SORRY, YOU 2202 01:16:53,289 --> 01:16:54,622 >> JUST TO CLARIFY, SORRY, YOU THINK THAT PHOTO HAS BEEN FAKED? 2203 01:16:54,624 --> 01:17:00,861 THINK THAT PHOTO HAS BEEN FAKED? >> NOBODY CAN PROVE WHETHER OR 2204 01:17:00,863 --> 01:17:01,462 >> NOBODY CAN PROVE WHETHER OR NOT THAT PHOTOGRAPH HAS BEEN 2205 01:17:01,464 --> 01:17:02,096 NOT THAT PHOTOGRAPH HAS BEEN DOCTORED, BUT I DON'T RECOLLECT 2206 01:17:02,098 --> 01:17:02,663 DOCTORED, BUT I DON'T RECOLLECT THAT PHOTOGRAPH EVER BEING 2207 01:17:02,665 --> 01:17:03,464 THAT PHOTOGRAPH EVER BEING TAKEN. 2208 01:17:03,466 --> 01:17:04,098 TAKEN. >> THE INTERVIEW TURNED OUT TO 2209 01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:09,203 >> THE INTERVIEW TURNED OUT TO BE A TOTAL DISASTER FOR THE 2210 01:17:09,205 --> 01:17:13,307 BE A TOTAL DISASTER FOR THE PRINCE, FORCING HIM TO RESIGN 2211 01:17:13,309 --> 01:17:14,275 PRINCE, FORCING HIM TO RESIGN FROM HIS ROYAL DUTIES. 2212 01:17:14,277 --> 01:17:16,344 FROM HIS ROYAL DUTIES. >> BUT FOR AT LEAST SOME OF 2213 01:17:16,346 --> 01:17:17,678 >> BUT FOR AT LEAST SOME OF EPSTEIN'S VICTIMS AND REALLY ANY 2214 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,146 EPSTEIN'S VICTIMS AND REALLY ANY REPORTER WHO HAS COVERED THIS 2215 01:17:19,148 --> 01:17:20,715 REPORTER WHO HAS COVERED THIS CASE, THERE STILL REMAINS ONE 2216 01:17:20,717 --> 01:17:21,349 CASE, THERE STILL REMAINS ONE PERSON EVERYONE WANTS TO TALK 2217 01:17:21,351 --> 01:17:22,249 PERSON EVERYONE WANTS TO TALK TO. 2218 01:17:22,251 --> 01:17:22,883 TO. >> WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM 2219 01:17:22,885 --> 01:17:23,818 >> WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED WITH 2220 01:17:23,820 --> 01:17:24,418 OF EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED WITH THAT, STARTING WITH GHISLAINE 2221 01:17:24,420 --> 01:17:25,286 THAT, STARTING WITH GHISLAINE MAXWELL. 2222 01:17:25,288 --> 01:17:29,056 MAXWELL. >> ONE OF THE SINGLE BIGGEST 2223 01:17:29,058 --> 01:17:29,657 >> ONE OF THE SINGLE BIGGEST MYSTERIES NOW IS WHERE IN THE 2224 01:17:29,659 --> 01:17:31,392 MYSTERIES NOW IS WHERE IN THE WORLD IS GHISLAINE MAXWELL? 2225 01:17:37,766 --> 01:17:42,303 >>> FOR THERE TO BE JUSTICE, REAL JUSTICE, MANY OF THE 2226 01:17:42,305 --> 01:17:51,746 REAL JUSTICE, MANY OF THE VICTIMS WANT TO KNOW, WILL FWIL 2227 01:17:51,748 --> 01:17:52,279 VICTIMS WANT TO KNOW, WILL FWIL LAIN 2228 01:17:52,281 --> 01:17:53,748 LAIN GHISLAINE MAXWELL BE HELD 2229 01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:54,315 GHISLAINE MAXWELL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER ALLEGED 2230 01:17:54,317 --> 01:17:54,649 ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER ALLEGED ROLE? 2231 01:17:54,651 --> 01:17:55,282 ROLE? >> LAWYERS FOR GHISLAINE MAXWELL 2232 01:17:55,284 --> 01:17:55,916 >> LAWYERS FOR GHISLAINE MAXWELL DID NOT RESPOND TO REQUESTS FOR 2233 01:17:55,918 --> 01:17:56,150 DID NOT RESPOND TO REQUESTS FOR COMMENT. 2234 01:17:56,152 --> 01:17:56,717 COMMENT. >> GHISLAINE MAXWELL IS NOT 2235 01:17:56,719 --> 01:17:57,318 >> GHISLAINE MAXWELL IS NOT CURRENTLY FACING ANY CRIMINAL 2236 01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:57,551 CURRENTLY FACING ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES. 2237 01:17:57,553 --> 01:17:58,319 CHARGES. >> THERE'S CURRENTLY A FRENZY 2238 01:17:58,321 --> 01:17:58,886 >> THERE'S CURRENTLY A FRENZY RIGHT NOW TO FIND GHISLAINE 2239 01:17:58,888 --> 01:17:59,353 RIGHT NOW TO FIND GHISLAINE MAXWELL. 2240 01:17:59,355 --> 01:18:02,990 MAXWELL. >> WHERE IS JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S 2241 01:18:02,992 --> 01:18:05,126 >> WHERE IS JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S FORMER GIRLFRIEND? 2242 01:18:05,128 --> 01:18:05,493 FORMER GIRLFRIEND? SHE'S VANISHED. 2243 01:18:05,495 --> 01:18:07,328 SHE'S VANISHED. >> ALL EYES ARE ON THE 2244 01:18:07,330 --> 01:18:08,863 >> ALL EYES ARE ON THE 57-YEAR-OLD BRITISH SOCIALITE. 2245 01:18:08,865 --> 01:18:09,463 57-YEAR-OLD BRITISH SOCIALITE. >> REPORTERS WANT TO FIND HER. 2246 01:18:09,465 --> 01:18:10,097 >> REPORTERS WANT TO FIND HER. CIVIL ATTORNEYS WANT TO TALK TO 2247 01:18:10,099 --> 01:18:10,498 CIVIL ATTORNEYS WANT TO TALK TO HER. 2248 01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:11,499 HER. >> I CAN'T STAND THE FACT THAT 2249 01:18:11,501 --> 01:18:19,940 >> I CAN'T STAND THE FACT THAT GHISLAINE HAS NOT BEEN ARRESTED. 2250 01:18:21,711 --> 01:18:23,210 I ABSOLUTELY STOPPED PAINTING BECAUSE OF EPSTEIN AND IN A 2251 01:18:23,212 --> 01:18:25,980 BECAUSE OF EPSTEIN AND IN A WEIRD WAY, I KIND OF STARTED 2252 01:18:25,982 --> 01:18:26,914 WEIRD WAY, I KIND OF STARTED PAINTING AGAIN BECAUSE OF HIM, 2253 01:18:26,916 --> 01:18:28,549 PAINTING AGAIN BECAUSE OF HIM, BECAUSE I WANTED TO HONOR THE 2254 01:18:28,551 --> 01:18:29,717 BECAUSE I WANTED TO HONOR THE VICTIMS. 2255 01:18:29,719 --> 01:18:31,218 VICTIMS. THESE ARE THE SURVIVORS THAT ARE 2256 01:18:31,220 --> 01:18:31,852 THESE ARE THE SURVIVORS THAT ARE STILL STANDING. 2257 01:18:31,854 --> 01:18:34,422 STILL STANDING. THE PREMISE OF THE SERIES IS 2258 01:18:34,424 --> 01:18:39,627 THE PREMISE OF THE SERIES IS STRENGTH AND POWER IN NUMBERS. 2259 01:18:39,629 --> 01:18:41,429 STRENGTH AND POWER IN NUMBERS. VIRGINIA, AND THEN MICHELLE AND 2260 01:18:41,431 --> 01:18:45,733 VIRGINIA, AND THEN MICHELLE AND THEN CHAUNTAE, JENA-LISA, 2261 01:18:45,735 --> 01:18:46,600 THEN CHAUNTAE, JENA-LISA, COURTNEY AND ANNIE. 2262 01:18:46,602 --> 01:18:47,101 COURTNEY AND ANNIE. I WANTED TO PORTRAY HOW 2263 01:18:47,103 --> 01:18:51,672 I WANTED TO PORTRAY HOW BEAUTIFUL THESE WOMEN ARE AND 2264 01:18:51,674 --> 01:18:52,907 BEAUTIFUL THESE WOMEN ARE AND HOW STRONG THEY ARE, BUT ALSO 2265 01:18:52,909 --> 01:18:53,708 HOW STRONG THEY ARE, BUT ALSO HOW DETERMINED THEY ARE, BECAUSE 2266 01:18:53,710 --> 01:18:58,612 HOW DETERMINED THEY ARE, BECAUSE THEY DID SURVIVE. 2267 01:18:58,614 --> 01:19:00,681 THEY DID SURVIVE. >> NOW I HAVE THREE KIDS. 2268 01:19:00,683 --> 01:19:03,350 >> NOW I HAVE THREE KIDS. AND I'M IN A VERY HEALTHY AND 2269 01:19:03,352 --> 01:19:05,519 AND I'M IN A VERY HEALTHY AND STABLE RELATIONSHIP, WHICH IS 2270 01:19:05,521 --> 01:19:07,922 STABLE RELATIONSHIP, WHICH IS SUPER AMAZING. 2271 01:19:07,924 --> 01:19:09,423 SUPER AMAZING. I'M WORKING AT A CHURCH. 2272 01:19:09,425 --> 01:19:12,526 I'M WORKING AT A CHURCH. >> I WORK FOR MY PARENTS AT 2273 01:19:12,528 --> 01:19:12,827 >> I WORK FOR MY PARENTS AT THEIR CAFE. 2274 01:19:12,829 --> 01:19:14,628 THEIR CAFE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF DOGS. 2275 01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:17,565 I HAVE A COUPLE OF DOGS. GO TO THE DRIVE-IN MOVIE THEATRE 2276 01:19:17,567 --> 01:19:18,933 GO TO THE DRIVE-IN MOVIE THEATRE WITH MY SON. 2277 01:19:18,935 --> 01:19:21,435 WITH MY SON. I FINALLY MADE IT TO THE OTHER 2278 01:19:21,437 --> 01:19:22,069 I FINALLY MADE IT TO THE OTHER SIDE, WHERE MY LIFE IS A GOOD 2279 01:19:22,071 --> 01:19:25,773 SIDE, WHERE MY LIFE IS A GOOD LIFE. 2280 01:19:25,775 --> 01:19:26,607 LIFE. >> I'M A PSYCHOLOGIST. 2281 01:19:26,609 --> 01:19:27,241 >> I'M A PSYCHOLOGIST. PART OF WHAT I DO NOW IS I WORK 2282 01:19:27,243 --> 01:19:29,744 PART OF WHAT I DO NOW IS I WORK WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE 2283 01:19:32,482 --> 01:19:32,913 >> I'M A NANNY TO THREE AMAZING KIDS. 2284 01:19:32,915 --> 01:19:36,016 KIDS. I LIVE WITH MY TWO DOGS. 2285 01:19:36,018 --> 01:19:37,718 I LIVE WITH MY TWO DOGS. AND I'M EXPECTING MY FIRST 2286 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:38,619 AND I'M EXPECTING MY FIRST CHILD. 2287 01:19:38,621 --> 01:19:41,756 CHILD. >> I HAVE A 7-YEAR-OLD SON. 2288 01:19:41,758 --> 01:19:42,890 >> I HAVE A 7-YEAR-OLD SON. AND I'M A WAITRESS. 2289 01:19:42,892 --> 01:19:43,958 AND I'M A WAITRESS. I JUST HAVE A VERY REGULAR, 2290 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:48,596 I JUST HAVE A VERY REGULAR, NORMAL LIFE. 2291 01:19:48,598 --> 01:19:49,930 NORMAL LIFE. >> COURTNEY IS MY FAVORITE 2292 01:19:49,932 --> 01:19:51,866 >> COURTNEY IS MY FAVORITE DRAWING, BECAUSE SHE'S SO 2293 01:19:51,868 --> 01:19:52,566 DRAWING, BECAUSE SHE'S SO STRONG. 2294 01:19:52,568 --> 01:19:55,102 STRONG. SHE'S BEEN A PILLAR FOR EVERYONE 2295 01:19:55,104 --> 01:19:55,970 SHE'S BEEN A PILLAR FOR EVERYONE IN THIS CASE. 2296 01:19:55,972 --> 01:19:57,238 IN THIS CASE. >> COURTNEY WILD IS A PERFECT 2297 01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,774 >> COURTNEY WILD IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO HAD THE 2298 01:19:59,776 --> 01:20:02,910 EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO HAD THE COURAGE AND THE FORTITUDE AND 2299 01:20:02,912 --> 01:20:03,944 COURAGE AND THE FORTITUDE AND THE DETERMINATION TO SEE THE 2300 01:20:08,117 --> 01:20:09,717 >> THE ONLY WAY THAT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM'S GOING 2301 01:20:13,756 --> 01:20:15,389 NOT JUST THE VICTIMS IN THIS CASE, BUT IN FUTURE CASES. 2302 01:20:15,391 --> 01:20:17,725 CASE, BUT IN FUTURE CASES. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT 2303 01:20:17,727 --> 01:20:19,627 WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. 2304 01:20:19,629 --> 01:20:21,595 NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. A NEW BILL IN COURTNEY'S HONOR 2305 01:20:21,597 --> 01:20:22,897 A NEW BILL IN COURTNEY'S HONOR ACTUALLY BEARING HER NAME HAS 2306 01:20:22,899 --> 01:20:24,765 ACTUALLY BEARING HER NAME HAS BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE OF 2307 01:20:24,767 --> 01:20:26,000 BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND IT WOULD 2308 01:20:26,002 --> 01:20:26,834 REPRESENTATIVES AND IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY FINE THE GOVERNMENT 2309 01:20:26,836 --> 01:20:27,535 ESSENTIALLY FINE THE GOVERNMENT IF THEY EVER TRY TO DO SOMETHING 2310 01:20:27,537 --> 01:20:29,737 IF THEY EVER TRY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AGAIN. 2311 01:20:29,739 --> 01:20:31,906 LIKE THIS AGAIN. CUT A DEAL AND NOT LET THE 2312 01:20:31,908 --> 01:20:32,373 CUT A DEAL AND NOT LET THE VICTIMS KNOW ABOUT IT. 2313 01:20:32,375 --> 01:20:33,007 VICTIMS KNOW ABOUT IT. >> MAYBE MY STORY CAN INFLUENCE 2314 01:20:33,009 --> 01:20:36,811 >> MAYBE MY STORY CAN INFLUENCE OTHER PEOPLE TO SPEAK UP. 2315 01:20:36,813 --> 01:20:40,214 OTHER PEOPLE TO SPEAK UP. AND TO SAY, YOU KNOW, FIND 2316 01:20:40,216 --> 01:20:40,447 AND TO SAY, YOU KNOW, FIND JUSTICE. 2317 01:20:40,449 --> 01:20:41,248 JUSTICE. AND THIS IS A GREAT MOMENT. 2318 01:20:41,250 --> 01:20:43,984 AND THIS IS A GREAT MOMENT. WE'RE BEING HEARD AND PEOPLE ARE 202754

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