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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,021 --> 00:00:33,572 This particular Thanksgiving was gonna be 2 00:00:33,572 --> 00:00:35,538 a little bit extra special 3 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,710 because my grandchildren, Nick and Haile, 4 00:00:38,710 --> 00:00:40,434 were gonna be there. 5 00:00:41,917 --> 00:00:45,503 Nick was 17, Haile was 18. 6 00:00:45,503 --> 00:00:49,434 They were cousins and very, very close friends. 7 00:00:51,124 --> 00:00:54,607 Dinner was supposed to start at about one o'clock. 8 00:00:54,607 --> 00:00:56,400 Nick and Haile weren't there yet. 9 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,124 We waited and waited and waited. 10 00:00:59,124 --> 00:01:02,262 It was about 2:30 or three o'clock 11 00:01:02,262 --> 00:01:05,089 before we finally just decided to sit down. 12 00:01:05,089 --> 00:01:09,434 And quite honestly, nobody really ate much. 13 00:01:10,607 --> 00:01:13,986 We were on phones texting Nick and Haile 14 00:01:13,986 --> 00:01:15,503 to find out where they were. 15 00:01:15,503 --> 00:01:18,193 And there was no answer, no answer, no answer. 16 00:01:18,193 --> 00:01:21,469 That was really frazzling everybody. 17 00:01:21,469 --> 00:01:24,262 There was a sense that something was not right. 18 00:01:25,503 --> 00:01:29,503 Never in my wildest dreams did I think what happened would 19 00:01:29,503 --> 00:01:34,883 have actually happened. I believe that evil took over 20 00:01:36,124 --> 00:01:37,193 that night. 21 00:02:39,296 --> 00:02:44,055 The day after Thanksgiving, November 23, 2012, 22 00:02:45,607 --> 00:02:47,331 I was off work. 23 00:02:48,607 --> 00:02:52,193 We were sitting downstairs, my wife Chrissi, at the time, 24 00:02:52,193 --> 00:02:55,503 and my nine-year-old daughter Haile, and we were watching 25 00:02:55,503 --> 00:02:56,952 a Christmas show. 26 00:03:00,296 --> 00:03:04,745 But I was always on call 24 hours a day, seven days a week. 27 00:03:06,296 --> 00:03:09,710 We don't have a huge department with a lot of people. 28 00:03:09,710 --> 00:03:12,572 In fact, there were only two investigators for 29 00:03:12,572 --> 00:03:14,089 the whole county. 30 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:18,814 And the deputy told me that he received a strange call from 31 00:03:18,814 --> 00:03:24,089 a William Anderson, saying that his neighbor, Byron Smith, 32 00:03:24,089 --> 00:03:28,434 had called the Sheriff's Office wanting to talk to an attorney. 33 00:03:29,607 --> 00:03:32,710 He said, well, Byron's been having some problems with some 34 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:36,607 break-ins to his place, and I suspect he might have 35 00:03:36,607 --> 00:03:38,469 taken things way too far. 36 00:03:41,607 --> 00:03:43,641 When I heard this description, 37 00:03:44,917 --> 00:03:47,538 something just wasn't sitting right in my stomach. 38 00:03:52,607 --> 00:03:55,814 Smith lived just on the outskirts of town. 39 00:03:55,814 --> 00:03:59,814 It's approximately about a five-minute drive from 40 00:03:59,814 --> 00:04:02,296 the Sheriff's Office to Byron Smith's residence. 41 00:04:02,296 --> 00:04:05,158 And Byron's house, incidentally, 42 00:04:05,158 --> 00:04:06,676 is at the dead end... 43 00:04:07,607 --> 00:04:08,779 ...of Elm Street. 44 00:04:10,124 --> 00:04:13,779 When I pulled into the driveway, what I did notice 45 00:04:13,779 --> 00:04:15,986 as I'm pulling up to his attached garage is that 46 00:04:15,986 --> 00:04:17,296 there's no vehicles parked outside. 47 00:04:19,331 --> 00:04:21,365 I thought that was a little odd. 48 00:04:21,365 --> 00:04:23,779 Like, where's his vehicle? 49 00:04:26,331 --> 00:04:31,021 As I'm exiting my squad car, I see an older male come out of 50 00:04:31,021 --> 00:04:35,607 the house with messy gray hair, wearing a blue jean jacket 51 00:04:35,607 --> 00:04:38,434 and jeans that appeared like he slept in them. 52 00:04:39,503 --> 00:04:41,158 His hands raised above his head. 53 00:04:42,503 --> 00:04:45,503 Well, that's not a normal thing that people typically do 54 00:04:45,503 --> 00:04:48,676 when I respond to their house to see what kind of problems 55 00:04:48,676 --> 00:04:50,193 they're having. 56 00:04:51,089 --> 00:04:53,158 The hairs on the back of my neck were starting to stand up. 57 00:04:53,158 --> 00:04:55,607 And it's like, OK, now something more 58 00:04:55,607 --> 00:04:57,469 is possibly happening here. 59 00:04:58,193 --> 00:05:00,400 I asked him, "Are you Mr. Smith? 60 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,572 And he said, "Yes, I am." 61 00:05:04,158 --> 00:05:07,193 Thoughts were racing through my head, trying to figure out 62 00:05:07,193 --> 00:05:09,779 what do I do next? 63 00:05:09,779 --> 00:05:12,607 I said, "I heard something happened at your house here. 64 00:05:12,607 --> 00:05:14,572 Is it OK if we come in and talk to you?" 65 00:05:14,572 --> 00:05:18,158 So Byron open the door and we walked into his residence. 66 00:05:32,814 --> 00:05:34,883 He was very calm. 67 00:05:34,883 --> 00:05:38,296 I didn't notice any erratic behavior or anything from him 68 00:05:38,296 --> 00:05:39,641 at the time. 69 00:05:39,641 --> 00:05:43,331 He was just matter of fact that somebody broke into his house. 70 00:05:44,193 --> 00:05:48,124 There was a window that had been shattered, and the glass 71 00:05:48,124 --> 00:05:49,883 was laying on the inside. 72 00:05:51,607 --> 00:05:55,469 What that indicated is that somebody had broken the window 73 00:05:55,469 --> 00:05:57,227 to gain entry into his house. 74 00:05:59,503 --> 00:06:03,434 Byron told us that the break-in happened on Thanksgiving Day. 75 00:06:05,021 --> 00:06:08,089 I thought that was a little odd when he told me that because 76 00:06:08,089 --> 00:06:10,917 he's not reporting it now until the day after Thanksgiving. 77 00:06:14,814 --> 00:06:18,055 So Byron wanted to show us something in the basement. 78 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,710 And as I'm walking down the steps, 79 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:25,193 I see a rug. 80 00:06:25,193 --> 00:06:28,848 And I see what looks like a spot of blood. 81 00:06:30,021 --> 00:06:32,607 OK, that's kind of a red flag for me. 82 00:06:32,607 --> 00:06:34,710 Maybe something's going on here. 83 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:37,262 His walls are white. 84 00:06:37,262 --> 00:06:40,158 And I see what looks like a speck of blood on the wall. 85 00:06:41,848 --> 00:06:43,710 Now the hairs are really starting to stand up 86 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:45,021 on the back of my neck. 87 00:06:46,089 --> 00:06:47,331 It's like, 88 00:06:48,089 --> 00:06:49,538 what am I gonna find here? 89 00:06:53,710 --> 00:06:57,917 So we get to the bottom of the steps, and this chair was 90 00:06:57,917 --> 00:06:59,055 in an odd location. 91 00:06:59,055 --> 00:07:01,503 I don't know why somebody would set it up like that, 92 00:07:01,503 --> 00:07:03,952 but it was sitting between two bookshelves, 93 00:07:04,952 --> 00:07:06,331 very tall bookshelves. 94 00:07:10,227 --> 00:07:14,434 There were a bottle of water and some energy bars. 95 00:07:15,503 --> 00:07:18,572 Then I also noticed that the light bulbs above 96 00:07:18,572 --> 00:07:21,469 the reading chair in the ceiling had been removed 97 00:07:21,469 --> 00:07:23,089 and we're sitting in a pile. 98 00:07:23,089 --> 00:07:25,607 I'm like... wait, what's going on here? 99 00:07:25,607 --> 00:07:27,365 Why would somebody do that? 100 00:07:29,607 --> 00:07:32,779 Then he goes on to tell me that he's sitting in 101 00:07:32,779 --> 00:07:33,883 his reading chair, 102 00:07:35,538 --> 00:07:38,814 and he had heard somebody walking around 103 00:07:38,814 --> 00:07:40,021 the house outside. 104 00:07:41,641 --> 00:07:44,262 He heard somebody trying the doorknobs. 105 00:07:47,021 --> 00:07:50,814 Byron would have had ample time to make a phone call to law 106 00:07:50,814 --> 00:07:53,676 enforcement and report that, "Hey, somebody is looking to 107 00:07:53,676 --> 00:07:56,503 break into my house here." But he doesn't. 108 00:08:00,607 --> 00:08:03,848 He said, "I see the footsteps coming down the stairs. 109 00:08:06,124 --> 00:08:10,331 "And as he's coming down where I could see his hips... 110 00:08:12,607 --> 00:08:13,848 ...I fired." 111 00:08:17,848 --> 00:08:20,814 And I'm like, "Whoa, you fired?" 112 00:08:20,814 --> 00:08:23,883 Now I'm just finding out he has a gun with him. 113 00:08:26,296 --> 00:08:30,710 Byron said, "So I went and I sat back down in my reading chair." 114 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:35,055 And he goes, "As I'm sitting there, I hear somebody trying 115 00:08:35,055 --> 00:08:38,055 "the door, and then I hear more footsteps coming 116 00:08:38,055 --> 00:08:39,572 down the hallway." 117 00:08:40,089 --> 00:08:43,124 He tells me that it felt like he was being ganged up on. 118 00:08:47,641 --> 00:08:51,572 Byron said that when he saw the hip area of this person, 119 00:08:53,021 --> 00:08:54,124 he shot again. 120 00:08:55,814 --> 00:08:59,607 And she, he used the word "she," fell to the bottom 121 00:08:59,607 --> 00:09:00,676 of the stairs. 122 00:09:00,676 --> 00:09:02,296 And when I heard that, I'm like, "Oh my God, 123 00:09:02,296 --> 00:09:07,607 now a female party's involved?" And I'm just like, whoa. 124 00:09:07,607 --> 00:09:12,400 I look over at the other deputy and he's got this huge 125 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,055 "holy crap" expression on his face, which I'm sure is the same 126 00:09:15,055 --> 00:09:17,538 expression I had on my face at the time because 127 00:09:18,607 --> 00:09:21,021 I've never heard something like this before. 128 00:09:21,021 --> 00:09:25,883 There obviously was something going on here, and I needed to 129 00:09:25,883 --> 00:09:27,434 figure out what the heck it was. 130 00:09:28,607 --> 00:09:33,055 But at that time, I had no idea the impact this case 131 00:09:33,055 --> 00:09:34,641 would have on my life, 132 00:09:35,814 --> 00:09:39,331 and that it would change our small community forever. 133 00:10:03,124 --> 00:10:05,503 I'm asking myself, did I really hear this right? 134 00:10:05,503 --> 00:10:09,193 Did Byron Smith just admit to me that he had basically 135 00:10:09,193 --> 00:10:14,676 executed two people that had broke into his house? 136 00:10:14,676 --> 00:10:17,296 He's very calm about the whole thing, really. 137 00:10:17,296 --> 00:10:21,745 But I could tell that he was not giving me the full story. 138 00:10:25,917 --> 00:10:28,883 So as I'm looking at this little bit of blood that I did 139 00:10:28,883 --> 00:10:31,848 see in the spot where he told me that he shot these two 140 00:10:31,848 --> 00:10:35,917 people, it was very odd to me because there should have been 141 00:10:35,917 --> 00:10:37,641 a lot more blood in that area. 142 00:10:39,124 --> 00:10:43,158 As Mr. Smith is explaining these things to me, I could see 143 00:10:43,158 --> 00:10:47,986 blood now on his jacket, on his pants, and then also 144 00:10:47,986 --> 00:10:49,158 on his shoes. 145 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,089 And this whole time, I haven't seen any bodies yet. 146 00:10:54,089 --> 00:10:57,089 I said, "Well, can you show me where the bodies are?" 147 00:10:57,089 --> 00:10:58,641 And he goes, "Follow me." 148 00:11:02,021 --> 00:11:04,400 There's a closed door that leads back 149 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,434 into his office-workroom area. 150 00:11:07,641 --> 00:11:10,641 And sure enough, I see the bodies 151 00:11:11,503 --> 00:11:12,848 lying next to each other. 152 00:11:15,710 --> 00:11:20,262 I had no idea who these victims were, but I could see multiple 153 00:11:20,262 --> 00:11:24,607 gunshot holes in the body of the female party. 154 00:11:24,607 --> 00:11:29,089 The male party was wrapped in a tarp and all I could see was 155 00:11:29,089 --> 00:11:32,227 his feet and jeans that he was wearing. 156 00:11:33,434 --> 00:11:36,607 And I said, "Mr. Smith, when did this happen?" 157 00:11:36,607 --> 00:11:40,021 And he told me, "Yesterday on Thanksgiving." 158 00:11:40,021 --> 00:11:44,365 I said, "Why did you not report this incident yesterday?" 159 00:11:44,365 --> 00:11:48,503 And Smith looks at me and he says, "Well, just because 160 00:11:48,503 --> 00:11:52,021 "my day was ruined, I thought, I don't want to wreck 161 00:11:52,021 --> 00:11:53,538 your guys' Thanksgiving." 162 00:12:06,193 --> 00:12:08,158 The day was really a bust. 163 00:12:09,607 --> 00:12:14,193 At about seven o'clock that evening, Thanksgiving evening, 164 00:12:14,193 --> 00:12:16,607 you know, the rest of the kids were calling around, 165 00:12:16,607 --> 00:12:17,952 calling friends, 166 00:12:19,193 --> 00:12:21,538 trying to find out where Nick and Haile were. 167 00:12:22,641 --> 00:12:25,193 On Thanksgiving 2012, I was preparing to have dinner 168 00:12:25,193 --> 00:12:26,607 with my family. 169 00:12:26,607 --> 00:12:29,469 I started to worry when I got a call from his sister, 170 00:12:29,469 --> 00:12:31,434 wondering if I had heard from Nick at all. 171 00:12:32,814 --> 00:12:34,986 And that's kind of where I was like, OK, there's something 172 00:12:34,986 --> 00:12:36,676 obviously more going on here. 173 00:12:39,021 --> 00:12:41,021 So it was, uh, 174 00:12:42,089 --> 00:12:43,538 not a good night. 175 00:12:47,124 --> 00:12:49,124 Little Falls is a small town. 176 00:12:49,124 --> 00:12:52,158 Two teenagers just don't go missing. 177 00:12:52,158 --> 00:12:54,262 Little Falls is your typical slow-paced town. 178 00:12:54,262 --> 00:12:56,779 Population right around about 8,000. 179 00:12:56,779 --> 00:12:59,607 We're two hours from the Twin Cities. 180 00:12:59,607 --> 00:13:03,434 It's just kind of its own little corner of Minnesota. 181 00:13:04,814 --> 00:13:07,296 But Little Falls doesn't have a lot 182 00:13:07,296 --> 00:13:08,848 for the younger kids to do. 183 00:13:09,710 --> 00:13:12,848 What teenagers do here, get in trouble, honestly. 184 00:13:13,779 --> 00:13:15,779 I was actually supposed to hang out with Nick that morning, 185 00:13:15,779 --> 00:13:18,158 and I just never heard from him. 186 00:13:19,089 --> 00:13:21,400 We hung out a lot, and I do mean a lot. 187 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,400 I would call him more like a brother to me than a friend. 188 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,469 If you're having a bad day and Nick is there, you're not 189 00:13:27,469 --> 00:13:28,779 gonna have a bad day for long. 190 00:13:28,779 --> 00:13:30,607 He's gonna find a way to get you to smile and cheer up, 191 00:13:30,607 --> 00:13:31,676 even if you don't want to. 192 00:13:31,676 --> 00:13:34,021 Nick was really good at changing the mood into 193 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:35,503 a positive way. 194 00:13:35,503 --> 00:13:37,572 There's not a whole lot of people that had a bad time 195 00:13:37,572 --> 00:13:38,917 with him around. 196 00:13:38,917 --> 00:13:42,158 To be really honest, Nick lit up a room. 197 00:13:43,089 --> 00:13:45,503 Haile was always polite, always gracious. 198 00:13:45,503 --> 00:13:48,158 She just had that nice air about her. 199 00:13:48,158 --> 00:13:51,193 There was something with Haile 200 00:13:51,193 --> 00:13:52,952 that, you know, you wouldn't expect 201 00:13:52,952 --> 00:13:58,158 her to be rude to anybody. Just genuinely nice. 202 00:13:58,158 --> 00:14:03,469 It was so out of character for Nick and Haile to not respond. 203 00:14:04,641 --> 00:14:06,434 Just unthinkable. 204 00:14:08,021 --> 00:14:09,227 Where are you? 205 00:14:18,124 --> 00:14:21,641 We couldn't file a missing persons claim for 24 hours. 206 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,365 So we had to wait till the next day. 207 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:33,400 The whole time I'm thinking, 208 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,952 OK, has a crime been committed here? 209 00:14:36,952 --> 00:14:39,296 I knew that Mr. Smith had the legal right to 210 00:14:39,296 --> 00:14:40,572 defend himself. 211 00:14:40,572 --> 00:14:44,883 He had the legal right to use lethal force in his home. 212 00:14:44,883 --> 00:14:46,434 So the law states that. 213 00:14:47,503 --> 00:14:51,572 But the problem, what I see, was these people 214 00:14:51,572 --> 00:14:53,021 were not armed. 215 00:14:54,710 --> 00:14:57,400 So I had to make the ultimate decision to place him 216 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,607 under arrest. 217 00:14:59,607 --> 00:15:03,021 Mr. Smith's answer to me was, "Yes, I understand. 218 00:15:03,021 --> 00:15:05,641 I know you're just doing your job." 219 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,158 As I'm going around the outside of the house, I noticed 220 00:15:13,158 --> 00:15:15,676 surveillance cameras that were set up. 221 00:15:15,676 --> 00:15:19,158 So that was an indication to me that, hey, there's possibly 222 00:15:19,158 --> 00:15:23,021 some video recording of this incident that I could get. 223 00:15:25,814 --> 00:15:29,124 Back at the station, deputies had Byron Smith in 224 00:15:29,124 --> 00:15:30,952 an interview room. 225 00:15:30,952 --> 00:15:32,158 And said they'd be right back. 226 00:15:32,158 --> 00:15:34,158 So they had him in the room by himself. 227 00:15:34,158 --> 00:15:36,848 And they were watching him through double-sided glass. 228 00:15:38,227 --> 00:15:40,400 They needed to figure out if Smith was telling the whole 229 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,952 truth, if this really was self-defense, 230 00:15:46,193 --> 00:15:48,779 or if this was cold-blooded murder. 231 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,676 In the meantime, we got a call 232 00:15:53,676 --> 00:15:56,158 from two Minnesota State Patrol officers. 233 00:15:56,158 --> 00:15:58,779 They said "We noticed something odd." 234 00:15:58,779 --> 00:16:02,607 A vehicle was parked in front of our residence here on 235 00:16:02,607 --> 00:16:05,986 Thanksgiving Day yesterday, and we have no idea whose 236 00:16:05,986 --> 00:16:08,021 vehicle it is. 237 00:16:08,021 --> 00:16:10,641 So they ran the license plate on the truck, 238 00:16:11,538 --> 00:16:13,917 and it came back to Byron Smith. 239 00:16:16,296 --> 00:16:19,607 Why in the heck is Smith's vehicle parked a quarter mile 240 00:16:19,607 --> 00:16:23,262 away in front of some State Patrol officer's house? 241 00:16:25,503 --> 00:16:29,848 Early on, as information was trickling out, people were for 242 00:16:29,848 --> 00:16:31,814 sure taking Smith's side. 243 00:16:31,814 --> 00:16:34,021 People feel connected to defending their property. 244 00:16:34,021 --> 00:16:37,193 It was kind of this rumor mill that ended up 245 00:16:37,193 --> 00:16:40,917 turning into pretty big news, and everyone was 246 00:16:40,917 --> 00:16:42,607 picking a side. 247 00:16:42,607 --> 00:16:45,158 It was becoming a powder keg situation. 248 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,641 And the story 249 00:16:49,917 --> 00:16:52,124 was gonna get pretty crazy. 250 00:17:00,296 --> 00:17:04,021 Byron Smith had just admitted that he had shot two people in 251 00:17:04,021 --> 00:17:05,848 his basement claiming self-defense, 252 00:17:06,917 --> 00:17:09,124 but they're not sure if he's telling the whole truth. 253 00:17:11,158 --> 00:17:14,986 After I arrested Byron Smith, our Sheriff's Office dispatch 254 00:17:14,986 --> 00:17:20,607 received a phone call from the parents of two juveniles, 255 00:17:20,607 --> 00:17:23,607 17-year-old male party by the name of Nicholas Brady 256 00:17:23,607 --> 00:17:27,641 and his 18-year-old cousin, Haile Kaifer. 257 00:17:27,641 --> 00:17:31,503 It was reported that both juveniles are missing 258 00:17:31,503 --> 00:17:33,400 over a day now. 259 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,641 Well, we got a description of both of them and it seemed to 260 00:17:37,641 --> 00:17:42,021 add up and match pretty close to the juveniles that we had 261 00:17:42,021 --> 00:17:45,021 currently in the basement at Smith's house. 262 00:17:52,503 --> 00:17:57,779 We live out in the country and this vehicle pulls down 263 00:17:57,779 --> 00:17:59,331 our long driveway. 264 00:18:01,296 --> 00:18:05,538 We were actually hopeful that it was Nick and Haile. 265 00:18:05,538 --> 00:18:09,021 My wife finally looked out our window and saw that it was 266 00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:13,434 the chaplain, and she knew something was not right. 267 00:18:18,917 --> 00:18:23,434 The deputy and the chaplain told us that Nick and Haile had 268 00:18:23,434 --> 00:18:26,262 both been shot burglarizing a house. 269 00:18:26,262 --> 00:18:29,883 No more details other than that. 270 00:18:29,883 --> 00:18:34,538 My first thought was, why would you break into a house? 271 00:18:35,710 --> 00:18:40,641 And it was just devastating, losing my grandson, 272 00:18:41,917 --> 00:18:43,434 losing Haile, 273 00:18:44,676 --> 00:18:47,331 for something that both knew better. 274 00:18:48,814 --> 00:18:51,607 No Thanksgiving has been the same since then. 275 00:18:52,676 --> 00:18:53,917 So, 276 00:18:56,814 --> 00:18:59,193 trying to get myself calm here. 277 00:19:04,814 --> 00:19:07,538 Back at the station, deputies were watching Byron 278 00:19:07,538 --> 00:19:10,296 Smith, trying to figure out what is going on 279 00:19:10,296 --> 00:19:12,572 inside his head. 280 00:19:12,572 --> 00:19:15,021 I looked through the two-way mirror at Smith. 281 00:19:15,021 --> 00:19:17,158 He's sitting there, he's getting a little restless, 282 00:19:17,158 --> 00:19:20,021 getting a little antsy, because now it's been 283 00:19:20,021 --> 00:19:23,503 a little while. So I sit down with Byron. 284 00:19:35,779 --> 00:19:39,848 What I knew about Byron Smith is that he's a 64-year-old 285 00:19:39,848 --> 00:19:42,538 retired man that lived alone. 286 00:19:50,296 --> 00:19:53,607 He told me that the house was his family home that 287 00:19:53,607 --> 00:19:54,883 he grew up in. 288 00:19:54,883 --> 00:19:57,124 He initially had been working overseas, 289 00:19:57,124 --> 00:20:00,262 installing surveillance cameras in embassies 290 00:20:00,262 --> 00:20:01,296 throughout the world. 291 00:20:01,296 --> 00:20:02,814 That's what he did for a living. 292 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,089 Smith was a bit of a loner. 293 00:20:07,193 --> 00:20:09,434 You know, didn't have a lot of visitors come to his home. 294 00:20:10,193 --> 00:20:14,503 But that summer of 2012, uh, decided to hire someone to 295 00:20:14,503 --> 00:20:15,572 come take care of his lawn. 296 00:20:21,572 --> 00:20:23,952 Several boys were cutting this grass. 297 00:20:24,814 --> 00:20:28,262 Nick Brady ended up being one of those kids that came over to 298 00:20:28,262 --> 00:20:29,779 do lawn work for him. 299 00:20:32,572 --> 00:20:35,676 During that time, that's when Byron started to notice things 300 00:20:35,676 --> 00:20:39,538 were missing, including his POW watch and a bomber jacket. 301 00:20:39,538 --> 00:20:41,814 And that's when he fired him and told him 302 00:20:41,814 --> 00:20:44,607 never to come back to his house. 303 00:20:44,607 --> 00:20:47,400 But by October 2012, his house was still getting 304 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,883 broken into. He was clearly angry. 305 00:20:49,883 --> 00:20:52,158 I mean, anybody would be angry if their house was broken 306 00:20:52,158 --> 00:20:53,779 into continually. 307 00:20:53,779 --> 00:20:56,089 Like, he kind of became this target. 308 00:20:56,089 --> 00:20:58,814 And at one point, some arrests were made. 309 00:20:59,917 --> 00:21:03,434 But it just, in his mind, wasn't what he imagined should 310 00:21:03,434 --> 00:21:06,434 happen to someone who was breaking into his home. 311 00:21:08,883 --> 00:21:13,986 And so he went from trying to get the law to help him to 312 00:21:13,986 --> 00:21:15,745 taking the law into his own hands. 313 00:21:17,021 --> 00:21:20,331 Like, I'm going to deal with this myself. 314 00:21:21,917 --> 00:21:25,503 So he had surveillance cameras all around the outside 315 00:21:25,503 --> 00:21:26,986 of his house. 316 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:31,917 In one camera he had facing there, where his property line 317 00:21:31,917 --> 00:21:36,331 was, you could see one of his neighbors homes, and that 318 00:21:36,331 --> 00:21:38,917 happened to be the one neighbor who he was convinced was 319 00:21:38,917 --> 00:21:40,538 breaking into his home. 320 00:21:42,296 --> 00:21:45,296 During Smith's interview he tells me that he's never 321 00:21:45,296 --> 00:21:48,503 gotten along with his neighbors, the Williams, next door. 322 00:21:56,710 --> 00:22:01,158 And he I suspected that it was the Williams' daughter that was 323 00:22:01,158 --> 00:22:03,538 involved in previous burglaries. 324 00:22:20,883 --> 00:22:26,331 And so he went from being a victim to being a vigilante. 325 00:22:27,089 --> 00:22:30,262 Smith told me that he thought he had killed Ashley Williams, 326 00:22:30,262 --> 00:22:33,331 the girl that lived next door to him. 327 00:22:39,055 --> 00:22:40,193 I shouldn't have been involved. 328 00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:42,021 I shouldn't have even been brought up. 329 00:22:43,124 --> 00:22:45,952 I shouldn't be here right now doing this interview. 330 00:22:47,296 --> 00:22:51,296 Once upon a time, it was a good place to live, on Elm Street. 331 00:22:53,158 --> 00:22:57,710 But Byron Smith is a cruel, heartless man. 332 00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:00,503 He had a deep hate towards me. 333 00:23:00,503 --> 00:23:04,434 I didn't feel safe being his neighbor. 334 00:23:04,434 --> 00:23:08,262 I live in fear, knowing it was supposed to be me. 335 00:23:08,262 --> 00:23:12,710 I felt it important to get my story out there, my truth, 336 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:14,917 because I don't know what tomorrow brings. 337 00:23:22,917 --> 00:23:27,917 My thought on hiding my identity was because I was 338 00:23:27,917 --> 00:23:31,434 absolutely victimized by Byron Smith, 339 00:23:33,503 --> 00:23:37,469 and I would like to not be a victim or feel like 340 00:23:37,469 --> 00:23:38,745 a victim anymore. 341 00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:46,469 His claims were very absurd, 100% not true. 342 00:23:46,469 --> 00:23:51,572 As far as my record for breaking and entering any place 343 00:23:51,572 --> 00:23:52,745 is null and void. 344 00:23:52,745 --> 00:23:56,296 I have never stole from anybody, and I would never. 345 00:23:58,814 --> 00:24:03,607 When I was in grade school, I went down to his house to 346 00:24:03,607 --> 00:24:07,572 sell him cookies for the school, and he didn't want 347 00:24:07,572 --> 00:24:09,434 nothing to do with it. 348 00:24:09,434 --> 00:24:12,365 That was the one and only time I ever been to his house. 349 00:24:12,365 --> 00:24:15,503 I didn't feel safe being his neighbor. 350 00:24:16,779 --> 00:24:22,331 Growing up, I had cats and a family dog go missing, because 351 00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:27,262 they went onto his property, and I think that he killed them 352 00:24:27,262 --> 00:24:28,469 because of that. 353 00:24:29,296 --> 00:24:33,952 I wish I knew why he had so much anger towards me. 354 00:24:38,676 --> 00:24:42,434 When Byron Smith's house started being broken into 355 00:24:42,434 --> 00:24:46,952 in October of 2012, he made her the bad guy 356 00:24:46,952 --> 00:24:51,124 and invented this whole plan of vengeance against this girl. 357 00:24:51,986 --> 00:24:54,745 But it actually made no sense. 358 00:24:54,745 --> 00:24:57,538 She didn't actually live there at the time. 359 00:24:57,538 --> 00:24:59,607 The timeline of when his jacket went missing 360 00:24:59,607 --> 00:25:00,917 didn't actually make sense. 361 00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:03,124 She would have been a baby at the time. 362 00:25:03,917 --> 00:25:07,434 So I would say his mental state was 363 00:25:08,296 --> 00:25:09,745 shaky at best. 364 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:13,193 A lot of his peers talked about how he had a bit of 365 00:25:13,193 --> 00:25:15,434 a short temper. 366 00:25:15,434 --> 00:25:18,952 He was becoming a very disturbed individual and it was 367 00:25:18,952 --> 00:25:21,296 becoming a powder keg situation. 368 00:25:22,917 --> 00:25:28,021 It was only a matter of time before he was gonna explode. 369 00:25:54,055 --> 00:25:57,055 He said he fell down the stairs and was laying wounded at 370 00:25:57,055 --> 00:25:58,779 the bottom of the stairs. 371 00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:25,434 And he goes, "As I'm sitting there, a little while later, 372 00:26:25,434 --> 00:26:28,641 I hear more footsteps descending the stairs." 373 00:26:36,262 --> 00:26:40,607 He says, "Ashley Williams fell to the bottom of the stairs, 374 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,641 and she's wounded." 375 00:26:45,883 --> 00:26:49,607 Again, he said, "I just want her dead. 376 00:26:49,607 --> 00:26:50,745 "I take my rifle, 377 00:26:51,814 --> 00:26:52,952 I point it at her." 378 00:27:09,917 --> 00:27:12,848 You could see almost that, when people describe him as being 379 00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:15,952 a bullied kid, you could see that come out in that moment. 380 00:27:15,952 --> 00:27:17,365 You know, it's like he heard things 381 00:27:17,365 --> 00:27:18,917 that didn't really happen. 382 00:27:24,917 --> 00:27:29,400 "So I grabbed my pistol I had at my side, I aimed at her chest 383 00:27:30,365 --> 00:27:32,538 and I shot and I shot and I shot." 384 00:28:08,503 --> 00:28:10,331 And I'm like, wow. 385 00:28:13,814 --> 00:28:15,607 He said, "When she quit moving, 386 00:28:15,607 --> 00:28:17,331 "I then grabbed her and laid her 387 00:28:17,331 --> 00:28:18,883 on the tarp next to him." 388 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,676 And he said, "I just sat with the bodies in the basement, 389 00:28:25,676 --> 00:28:30,158 "fearful that the Williams family was gonna come over with 390 00:28:30,158 --> 00:28:32,503 firearms, you know, to kill me." 391 00:28:47,089 --> 00:28:50,745 I would describe Byron Smith as like, kind of a Norman 392 00:28:50,745 --> 00:28:52,986 Bates-type character, like Norman Bates from 393 00:28:52,986 --> 00:28:54,296 the movie Psycho. 394 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,745 If you've ever seen the end of Psycho where he's kind of just 395 00:28:58,745 --> 00:29:01,779 sitting in a rocking chair, just super calm, 396 00:29:01,779 --> 00:29:04,021 watching the fly fly around the room. 397 00:29:04,986 --> 00:29:08,158 But in his head, he's having a psychotic break. 398 00:29:08,158 --> 00:29:11,193 He's already killed people. 399 00:29:11,193 --> 00:29:14,021 That was kind of Byron's demeanor a lot of the time, 400 00:29:14,021 --> 00:29:18,469 like just not wanting to break in front of people, 401 00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:22,745 But then, at any moment, 402 00:29:23,779 --> 00:29:25,469 he could snap. 403 00:29:26,676 --> 00:29:30,434 It was vitally important that we keep Smith in custody, 404 00:29:30,434 --> 00:29:34,676 or there's a strong likelihood that somebody else could be 405 00:29:34,676 --> 00:29:36,158 shot and killed. 406 00:29:37,883 --> 00:29:42,676 After I finished my interviews with Byron, I drafted up five 407 00:29:42,676 --> 00:29:43,917 separate search warrants. 408 00:29:47,503 --> 00:29:50,400 From the search warrant at Smith's house, we found out 409 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,469 that he had moved the rugs at the bottom of the steps 410 00:29:53,469 --> 00:29:56,607 where I initially was talking with Byron. 411 00:29:56,607 --> 00:30:00,883 What they discovered was brain matter, pools of blood, 412 00:30:00,883 --> 00:30:05,021 and also blood marks dragging across the carpet that led back 413 00:30:05,021 --> 00:30:07,538 to his office workroom. 414 00:30:07,538 --> 00:30:13,193 So it appeared very deliberate and intentional on Byron's part 415 00:30:13,193 --> 00:30:17,089 that he had taken those rugs and covered up the spot. 416 00:30:19,676 --> 00:30:23,158 Well, I was in the back office workroom where the bodies were, 417 00:30:23,158 --> 00:30:27,400 And I found a digital, handheld audio recorder sitting 418 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,089 on top of his desk back there. 419 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:35,021 And we found the same exact type of recorder hidden in 420 00:30:35,021 --> 00:30:37,641 the bookshelf above his reading chair. 421 00:30:39,572 --> 00:30:42,745 I had this odd feeling in the pit of my stomach. 422 00:30:45,365 --> 00:30:49,089 And what we found was the holy grail piece of evidence 423 00:30:49,089 --> 00:30:50,607 in this case. 424 00:30:51,986 --> 00:30:55,745 It recorded a monologue of Byron Smith basically 425 00:30:55,745 --> 00:30:59,021 rehearsing what he was gonna do if anybody 426 00:30:59,021 --> 00:31:00,503 broke into his house. 427 00:31:10,193 --> 00:31:12,745 Over and over again, practicing saying, 428 00:31:12,745 --> 00:31:14,641 "I think I need to speak to an attorney." 429 00:31:19,917 --> 00:31:21,538 Just insane. 430 00:31:21,538 --> 00:31:27,021 And it turns out that recorder actually recorded everything. 431 00:31:40,055 --> 00:31:42,124 I had five separate search warrants at hand. 432 00:31:42,124 --> 00:31:44,814 And I met with the county attorney 433 00:31:44,814 --> 00:31:46,365 at Byron Smith's house. 434 00:31:46,365 --> 00:31:50,331 There were some very important key pieces of evidence that 435 00:31:50,331 --> 00:31:51,952 we needed to get in this case. 436 00:31:58,710 --> 00:32:00,814 What we found in the surveillance videos was 437 00:32:00,814 --> 00:32:04,193 that around 11:00 AM on Thanksgiving Day, Smith went 438 00:32:04,193 --> 00:32:08,262 outside and got into his pickup and drove the pickup away. 439 00:32:08,262 --> 00:32:11,917 Little while later, we saw him walking back through the woods 440 00:32:11,917 --> 00:32:14,745 to his house, hiding his vehicle away from 441 00:32:14,745 --> 00:32:17,883 the house to make it look like nobody was home. 442 00:32:17,883 --> 00:32:20,572 You know, we have a lot of deer hunters in Minnesota, 443 00:32:20,572 --> 00:32:22,021 and this is what we do. 444 00:32:22,021 --> 00:32:25,676 We sit in a deer stand, and we have food and water 445 00:32:25,676 --> 00:32:28,021 and that, so we can sit for the long haul and wait 446 00:32:28,021 --> 00:32:29,193 for the prey to come in. 447 00:32:29,193 --> 00:32:31,572 Well, that's what it seemed like Byron did. 448 00:32:35,193 --> 00:32:38,193 To be sitting in your basement in the middle of the day in 449 00:32:38,193 --> 00:32:42,503 complete darkness, waiting for someone to break into your 450 00:32:42,503 --> 00:32:46,158 house and to make it appear that you're not home, so that 451 00:32:46,158 --> 00:32:50,572 they want to come in, so that you can kill them, is like 452 00:32:50,572 --> 00:32:52,779 another level of depravity. 453 00:32:52,779 --> 00:32:56,331 What we captured on that digital recorder paints 454 00:32:56,331 --> 00:33:00,089 the perfect picture of what I basically suspected 455 00:33:00,089 --> 00:33:02,400 when I placed Smith under arrest, 456 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,641 is that this was a murder and not self-defense. 457 00:33:18,055 --> 00:33:20,124 When Nick initially came in, 458 00:33:21,227 --> 00:33:22,779 you can hear the window break. 459 00:33:24,814 --> 00:33:28,193 You can hear the footsteps descend down the stairs. 460 00:33:29,607 --> 00:33:31,158 And then you hear 461 00:33:32,158 --> 00:33:33,952 the initial one shot. 462 00:33:38,296 --> 00:33:39,676 Now, he's laying there wounded. 463 00:33:40,572 --> 00:33:42,779 Then you hear a final shot, 464 00:33:45,227 --> 00:33:47,710 where Byron shot Nick in the head. 465 00:33:53,572 --> 00:33:57,434 You can hear the body dragging across the floor to his back 466 00:33:57,434 --> 00:33:58,710 office room. 467 00:34:00,124 --> 00:34:02,952 A little while later, we see Nick's cousin, 468 00:34:02,952 --> 00:34:05,883 Haile, come walking up to the house. 469 00:34:05,883 --> 00:34:09,262 But then that's the last thing we see of her on video. 470 00:34:10,365 --> 00:34:13,400 Smith said that he went and sat back down in his chair. 471 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,883 But what he didn't tell me was he had actually 472 00:34:15,883 --> 00:34:17,296 reloaded his gun. 473 00:34:18,572 --> 00:34:22,193 11 minutes later, Haile came in the house. 474 00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:25,883 When she got to the top of the stairs, you could actually 475 00:34:25,883 --> 00:34:27,227 hear Haile whispering. 476 00:34:30,055 --> 00:34:33,089 She slowly started to descend the stairs 477 00:34:33,089 --> 00:34:35,021 looking for her cousin. 478 00:34:35,779 --> 00:34:37,021 That's when you hear 479 00:34:42,641 --> 00:34:45,021 Now she's laying there wounded. 480 00:34:45,021 --> 00:34:47,676 Smith says he goes to finish her off. 481 00:34:47,676 --> 00:34:49,469 He aims the gun at her. 482 00:34:52,434 --> 00:34:54,848 That's when his rifle jammed on him. 483 00:35:00,883 --> 00:35:04,021 When Smith told me that Haile was laughing at him, 484 00:35:04,917 --> 00:35:06,089 that was a lie. 485 00:35:06,089 --> 00:35:08,883 She was pleading for her life. 486 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:41,055 He wrapped both of their bodies in tarps and just kept them 487 00:35:41,055 --> 00:35:42,193 there overnight. 488 00:35:42,193 --> 00:35:45,193 He had no regard for their remains, just totally 489 00:35:45,193 --> 00:35:48,814 disconnected himself from them as humans, much less kids. 490 00:35:48,814 --> 00:35:52,365 It'd be awful to happen to anybody, but the fact that 491 00:35:52,365 --> 00:35:56,469 they were children was really, really just disturbing. 492 00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:15,331 So he was initially charged with two counts of 493 00:36:15,331 --> 00:36:19,607 second-degree murder, and then a grand jury was convened 494 00:36:19,607 --> 00:36:22,676 and they agreed that he should be charged with two counts of 495 00:36:22,676 --> 00:36:24,331 first-degree murder. 496 00:36:24,745 --> 00:36:27,883 When this broke, there was only a couple reporters covering it. 497 00:36:27,883 --> 00:36:30,021 It was me and Horsome County Record. 498 00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:33,400 I mean, I'd say "hi" to him in the morning. 499 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,503 Byron Smith comes across as a really kind person. 500 00:36:36,503 --> 00:36:39,538 He's very quiet and has a very soft demeanor. 501 00:36:39,538 --> 00:36:44,158 But then when he feels cornered or he feels humiliated, 502 00:36:44,158 --> 00:36:45,538 something happens. 503 00:36:45,538 --> 00:36:49,158 There is another person that just comes out, and he just, 504 00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:52,227 it's-- it's scary. 505 00:36:54,296 --> 00:36:57,365 During the trial, I listened to the recordings. 506 00:36:58,331 --> 00:37:00,710 They still haunt me. 507 00:37:00,710 --> 00:37:06,572 I learned that he was targeting me, which to me was a blind 508 00:37:06,572 --> 00:37:09,607 side, and to this day, it affects me. 509 00:37:11,607 --> 00:37:14,952 Sitting in the courtroom, listening to that, 510 00:37:16,296 --> 00:37:17,469 I've been angry. 511 00:37:17,469 --> 00:37:22,193 I've never experienced rage in my life. 512 00:37:22,193 --> 00:37:27,400 Listening to him talk about my grandson and Haile that way, 513 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,296 I literally could have gotten up and attacked him 514 00:37:32,296 --> 00:37:33,848 right in the courtroom. 515 00:37:38,572 --> 00:37:40,021 He's a monster. 516 00:37:41,434 --> 00:37:44,883 No regular human being could go to that extent. 517 00:37:46,021 --> 00:37:48,262 I don't know any way to put it besides a monster. 518 00:37:52,021 --> 00:37:55,021 He just wanted to be judge, jury, and executioner. 519 00:37:55,883 --> 00:37:58,676 Haile was looking for Nick. She was not a perpetrator. 520 00:37:58,676 --> 00:38:01,952 I don't believe that she was doing anything other than 521 00:38:01,952 --> 00:38:03,469 searching for her cousin. 522 00:38:04,986 --> 00:38:06,883 And she certainly bore the-- 523 00:38:09,538 --> 00:38:12,710 bore the brunt of Smith's rage. 524 00:38:14,641 --> 00:38:17,262 In the Little Falls trial of Byron Smith, the man charged 525 00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:19,745 with killing two people in his own home, two very 526 00:38:19,745 --> 00:38:22,917 different pictures are painted by the prosecutor and defense. 527 00:38:22,917 --> 00:38:24,883 Smith's defense attorneys are trying to see 528 00:38:24,883 --> 00:38:26,779 if self-defense holds up. 529 00:38:26,779 --> 00:38:29,124 And jurors in the Byron Smith case will now consider four 530 00:38:29,124 --> 00:38:32,158 counts, two of which are first-degree murder. 531 00:38:34,572 --> 00:38:37,883 Smith was tried and convicted of two counts of first-degree 532 00:38:37,883 --> 00:38:41,469 murder and sentenced to prison for the rest of his life. 533 00:38:44,193 --> 00:38:48,607 I would say it set a precedent for Minnesota case law here in 534 00:38:48,607 --> 00:38:52,021 just how self-defense works. 535 00:38:52,021 --> 00:38:54,814 The news media really hyped this case up about the Castle 536 00:38:54,814 --> 00:38:59,021 Doctrine Law and it became national news. 537 00:38:59,021 --> 00:39:01,434 You're in your home, you're broken into, 538 00:39:01,434 --> 00:39:04,227 you can shoot the intruder to protect yourself. 539 00:39:04,227 --> 00:39:07,883 This is called the Castle Law in Minnesota. 540 00:39:09,365 --> 00:39:11,021 It was very divided. 541 00:39:12,227 --> 00:39:14,641 We would get a parade of cars past our house, 542 00:39:14,641 --> 00:39:16,745 people harassing us. 543 00:39:16,745 --> 00:39:20,676 Well, that was very hard on my family. 544 00:39:20,676 --> 00:39:23,814 My wife finally had enough and wanted a divorce, 545 00:39:23,814 --> 00:39:25,193 and I ended up getting divorced. 546 00:39:27,917 --> 00:39:31,021 I remember going into town, and a couple of people 547 00:39:31,021 --> 00:39:33,745 made some hurtful comments that, you know, 548 00:39:33,745 --> 00:39:37,089 this was my fault or this was my family's fault. 549 00:39:38,262 --> 00:39:40,883 There's times when I actually have a bulletproof vest 550 00:39:40,883 --> 00:39:42,227 that I wear. 551 00:39:43,158 --> 00:39:45,296 I had people stalking me, so. 552 00:39:46,676 --> 00:39:51,503 I would read online the people that sided with Byron and their 553 00:39:51,503 --> 00:39:54,917 opinions about Nick and Haile. 554 00:39:54,917 --> 00:39:58,124 I just wished at the time that I could tell my story. 555 00:39:59,262 --> 00:40:02,434 He is a cruel, heartless man. 556 00:40:06,158 --> 00:40:09,227 I think we paint this picture that this town is divided. 557 00:40:09,227 --> 00:40:11,710 I just think that this town is sad. 558 00:40:13,745 --> 00:40:18,365 For people who pay attention to the news, there's always two 559 00:40:18,365 --> 00:40:19,745 sides to the story. 560 00:40:19,745 --> 00:40:22,779 Be open-minded enough to get both sides. 561 00:40:23,883 --> 00:40:28,296 Mr. Smith wanted revenge, and he didn't care how 562 00:40:28,296 --> 00:40:29,814 he got it. 563 00:40:30,503 --> 00:40:35,400 I've had properties broken into before and you feel violated, 564 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,676 but it's stuff, 565 00:40:37,503 --> 00:40:40,021 you know, stuff can be replaced. 566 00:40:40,021 --> 00:40:44,021 Taking a human life is way, way different than that. 567 00:40:46,055 --> 00:40:48,469 If I could talk to Nick or Haile, I'd probably tell 568 00:40:48,469 --> 00:40:50,883 them both that I miss them and everybody down here misses 569 00:40:50,883 --> 00:40:53,124 them and it's just, it ain't the same. 570 00:40:54,469 --> 00:40:58,538 My hope for Nick would have been that he had consequences 571 00:40:58,538 --> 00:41:01,262 for his actions, that he learned from them 572 00:41:01,262 --> 00:41:02,710 and that he moved on. 573 00:41:04,021 --> 00:41:07,641 Haile would have found true happiness. 574 00:41:07,641 --> 00:41:11,572 She was such a nice young lady that, you know, if she would 575 00:41:11,572 --> 00:41:14,469 have chosen to get married, there'd be 100 guys out there 576 00:41:14,469 --> 00:41:17,434 that would be dying to marry her. 577 00:41:17,434 --> 00:41:20,607 Nick's personality would have gotten him certainly 578 00:41:20,607 --> 00:41:21,883 high places. 579 00:41:23,296 --> 00:41:26,503 Do I miss them? Every day. 580 00:41:26,503 --> 00:41:31,365 There isn't a day goes by that I don't think about them 581 00:41:31,365 --> 00:41:32,538 with a smile on their face. 47453

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