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so last week we installed an aiio into

so last week we installed an aiio into

so last week we installed an aiio into our $800 gaming system we found that we

our $800 gaming system we found that we

our $800 gaming system we found that we solved our temperature issue only to run

solved our temperature issue only to run

solved our temperature issue only to run into a power issue so today we're going

into a power issue so today we're going

into a power issue so today we're going to fix it by increasing the power limit

to fix it by increasing the power limit

to fix it by increasing the power limit and we're going to try to cool it down a

and we're going to try to cool it down a

and we're going to try to cool it down a little bit more by undervolting it so

little bit more by undervolting it so

little bit more by undervolting it so hopefully we should get the best of both

hopefully we should get the best of both

hopefully we should get the best of both worlds stay

tuned when we built our $800 gaming PC

tuned when we built our $800 gaming PC

tuned when we built our $800 gaming PC it performed impeccably however I was a

it performed impeccably however I was a

it performed impeccably however I was a little concerned about the temp future

little concerned about the temp future

little concerned about the temp future and that kind of led us down this rabbit

and that kind of led us down this rabbit

and that kind of led us down this rabbit hole that brought us to where we are

hole that brought us to where we are

hole that brought us to where we are today unfortunately because of that it's

today unfortunately because of that it's

today unfortunately because of that it's no longer an $800 gaming PC with the

no longer an $800 gaming PC with the

no longer an $800 gaming PC with the aiio that we installed it's looking more

aiio that we installed it's looking more

aiio that we installed it's looking more like a $900 gaming PC now so today

like a $900 gaming PC now so today

like a $900 gaming PC now so today instead of throwing more money at it

instead of throwing more money at it

instead of throwing more money at it we're going to try to improve its

we're going to try to improve its

we're going to try to improve its performance and its temperature by

performance and its temperature by

performance and its temperature by undervolting it we're also going to play

undervolting it we're also going to play

undervolting it we're also going to play around with an overclock but first I got

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10 now on with the video so there are

10 now on with the video so there are people that will tell you that nothing

people that will tell you that nothing

people that will tell you that nothing in life is free for the most part that's

in life is free for the most part that's

in life is free for the most part that's a true statement however today I'm going

a true statement however today I'm going

a true statement however today I'm going to show you that some things actually

to show you that some things actually

to show you that some things actually can be free of course that's as long as

can be free of course that's as long as

can be free of course that's as long as you don't count your own labor so I

you don't count your own labor so I

you don't count your own labor so I guess in that case it wouldn't be free

guess in that case it wouldn't be free

guess in that case it wouldn't be free so let's jump on the computer and see

so let's jump on the computer and see

so let's jump on the computer and see what we can do so here we are on our

what we can do so here we are on our

what we can do so here we are on our system and the first thing I'm going to

system and the first thing I'm going to

system and the first thing I'm going to do is we're going to go ahead and fire

do is we're going to go ahead and fire

do is we're going to go ahead and fire up ryzen master real quick and while

up ryzen master real quick and while

up ryzen master real quick and while ryzen master is open I think we're going

ryzen master is open I think we're going

ryzen master is open I think we're going to run a cinebench run real quick so I

to run a cinebench run real quick so I

to run a cinebench run real quick so I can show you kind of the problem that

can show you kind of the problem that

can show you kind of the problem that we're trying to solve here so it'll just

we're trying to solve here so it'll just

we're trying to solve here so it'll just take a second here to fire up cin bench

take a second here to fire up cin bench

take a second here to fire up cin bench a very short second though cuz this

a very short second though cuz this

a very short second though cuz this system is really quick so the first

system is really quick so the first

system is really quick so the first thing I want to do here is just run a

thing I want to do here is just run a

thing I want to do here is just run a multicore test real quick and then we'll

multicore test real quick and then we'll

multicore test real quick and then we'll open up ryzen master and you'll see

open up ryzen master and you'll see

open up ryzen master and you'll see right here that our total socket power

right here that our total socket power

right here that our total socket power is 100% And as of right here you can see

is 100% And as of right here you can see

is 100% And as of right here you can see that our temperature is solved we are

that our temperature is solved we are

that our temperature is solved we are under the limit we're under the 85c

under the limit we're under the 85c

under the limit we're under the 85c limit we're sitting at around 70c right

limit we're sitting at around 70c right

limit we're sitting at around 70c right now but we're limited to 4.9 GHz because

now but we're limited to 4.9 GHz because

now but we're limited to 4.9 GHz because well because we're out of power right

well because we're out of power right

well because we're out of power right now so if we were to run a single core

now so if we were to run a single core

now so if we were to run a single core test then I'm sure we were would be able

test then I'm sure we were would be able

test then I'm sure we were would be able to get the max speed of 5.1 GHz however

to get the max speed of 5.1 GHz however

to get the max speed of 5.1 GHz however at this point we're stuck at 4.9 so

at this point we're stuck at 4.9 so

at this point we're stuck at 4.9 so let's go ahead and stop this run real

let's go ahead and stop this run real

let's go ahead and stop this run real quick here and let's get into see if we

quick here and let's get into see if we

quick here and let's get into see if we can fix this right here so the first

can fix this right here so the first

can fix this right here so the first thing we want to do is I'm going to go

thing we want to do is I'm going to go

thing we want to do is I'm going to go ahead and jump down into curve Optimizer

ahead and jump down into curve Optimizer

ahead and jump down into curve Optimizer right here and then we're going to turn

right here and then we're going to turn

right here and then we're going to turn on Precision boost overdrive so what is

on Precision boost overdrive so what is

on Precision boost overdrive so what is precision boost overdrive in short it's

precision boost overdrive in short it's

precision boost overdrive in short it's just a fancy term for the process that

just a fancy term for the process that

just a fancy term for the process that allows you to increase the power limits

allows you to increase the power limits

allows you to increase the power limits for your CPU you see by default your CPU

for your CPU you see by default your CPU

for your CPU you see by default your CPU has certain limits to make it operate

has certain limits to make it operate

has certain limits to make it operate within its specific power draw range by

within its specific power draw range by

within its specific power draw range by increasing these limits you're

increasing these limits you're

increasing these limits you're essentially giving the processor more

essentially giving the processor more

essentially giving the processor more power as long as you stay within your

power as long as you stay within your

power as long as you stay within your thermal limit the CPU will boost to its

thermal limit the CPU will boost to its

thermal limit the CPU will boost to its maximum boost clock now the three

maximum boost clock now the three

maximum boost clock now the three specific limits that Precision boost

specific limits that Precision boost

specific limits that Precision boost overdrive allows you to increase are PPT

overdrive allows you to increase are PPT

overdrive allows you to increase are PPT TDC and EDC PPT stands for the package

TDC and EDC PPT stands for the package

TDC and EDC PPT stands for the package power tracking this is the total amount

power tracking this is the total amount

power tracking this is the total amount of Watts your processor is allowed to

of Watts your processor is allowed to

of Watts your processor is allowed to consume TDC stands for the thermal

consume TDC stands for the thermal

consume TDC stands for the thermal design current this is the amount of

design current this is the amount of

design current this is the amount of sustained current draw in amps that your

sustained current draw in amps that your

sustained current draw in amps that your processor is allowed to consume now

processor is allowed to consume now

processor is allowed to consume now anyone who has studied Electronics knows

anyone who has studied Electronics knows

anyone who has studied Electronics knows that watts equals volts multiplied by

that watts equals volts multiplied by

that watts equals volts multiplied by amps so the amount of Watts that the

amps so the amount of Watts that the

amps so the amount of Watts that the processor consumes is determined by the

processor consumes is determined by the

processor consumes is determined by the voltage of the processor multiplied by

voltage of the processor multiplied by

voltage of the processor multiplied by the TDC as long as the resulting wattage

the TDC as long as the resulting wattage

the TDC as long as the resulting wattage is equal or lower than the PPT then

is equal or lower than the PPT then

is equal or lower than the PPT then everything is cool and your CPU should

everything is cool and your CPU should

everything is cool and your CPU should continue to boost until it hits its

continue to boost until it hits its

continue to boost until it hits its thermal limit now the last one is EDC

thermal limit now the last one is EDC

thermal limit now the last one is EDC this one stands for electrical design

this one stands for electrical design

this one stands for electrical design current this is the limit that

current this is the limit that

current this is the limit that determines the amount of current that

determines the amount of current that

determines the amount of current that can Spike for short periods of time this

can Spike for short periods of time this

can Spike for short periods of time this is not the sustained current like the

is not the sustained current like the

is not the sustained current like the TDC however even with the EDC the limit

TDC however even with the EDC the limit

TDC however even with the EDC the limit maxed out your Watts still can't exceed

maxed out your Watts still can't exceed

maxed out your Watts still can't exceed your PPT now hopefully that was a good

your PPT now hopefully that was a good

your PPT now hopefully that was a good explanation so let's complete this by

explanation so let's complete this by

explanation so let's complete this by throwing everything I just said out the

throwing everything I just said out the

throwing everything I just said out the window and maxing them all out and see

window and maxing them all out and see

window and maxing them all out and see what happens

what happens

what happens okay yeah just like I said we're just

okay yeah just like I said we're just

okay yeah just like I said we're just going to leave all these things at Max

going to leave all these things at Max

going to leave all these things at Max so right now by default they're already

so right now by default they're already

so right now by default they're already set to Max so essentially by maxing

set to Max so essentially by maxing

set to Max so essentially by maxing these things out you're giving the CPU

these things out you're giving the CPU

these things out you're giving the CPU all the power they could possibly take

all the power they could possibly take

all the power they could possibly take now you don't have to worry about this

now you don't have to worry about this

now you don't have to worry about this damaging the processor because there's

damaging the processor because there's

damaging the processor because there's still limits in place like your thermal

still limits in place like your thermal

still limits in place like your thermal limit that won't allow the processor

limit that won't allow the processor

limit that won't allow the processor just to go out of control and you know

just to go out of control and you know

just to go out of control and you know this isn't an Intel processor so it's

this isn't an Intel processor so it's

this isn't an Intel processor so it's still going to keep your voltage under

still going to keep your voltage under

still going to keep your voltage under control but before we actually apply

control but before we actually apply

control but before we actually apply this I want want to go ahead and enable

this I want want to go ahead and enable

this I want want to go ahead and enable the curve Optimizer and that's going to

the curve Optimizer and that's going to

the curve Optimizer and that's going to be the next thing that we're going to do

be the next thing that we're going to do

be the next thing that we're going to do right here so the curve Optimizer by

right here so the curve Optimizer by

right here so the curve Optimizer by default is turned off when you turn on

default is turned off when you turn on

default is turned off when you turn on Precision boost overdrive so the way I'm

Precision boost overdrive so the way I'm

Precision boost overdrive so the way I'm going to able this is through all cores

going to able this is through all cores

going to able this is through all cores however you can do a per core and you

however you can do a per core and you

however you can do a per core and you can will be able to adjust the values

can will be able to adjust the values

can will be able to adjust the values for every single core but for us we're

for every single core but for us we're

for every single core but for us we're going to do all cores right now and I'm

going to do all cores right now and I'm

going to do all cores right now and I'm also going to change the auto offset to

also going to change the auto offset to

also going to change the auto offset to a manual offset and this will allow me

a manual offset and this will allow me

a manual offset and this will allow me to change the curve Optimizer offset for

to change the curve Optimizer offset for

to change the curve Optimizer offset for all the cores this is is essentially

all the cores this is is essentially

all the cores this is is essentially going to be our undervolt now we can do

going to be our undervolt now we can do

going to be our undervolt now we can do this per core and we can set a value for

this per core and we can set a value for

this per core and we can set a value for every single core individually but that

every single core individually but that

every single core individually but that takes a really long time and I'm just

takes a really long time and I'm just

takes a really long time and I'm just going to go to all cores now what you

going to go to all cores now what you

going to go to all cores now what you could do is if you set this to Auto you

could do is if you set this to Auto you

could do is if you set this to Auto you can hit start optimizing and it'll go

can hit start optimizing and it'll go

can hit start optimizing and it'll go through the process of optimizing all of

through the process of optimizing all of

through the process of optimizing all of the different cores to find out what

the different cores to find out what

the different cores to find out what offset they can actually take however I

offset they can actually take however I

offset they can actually take however I have found that not only is this

have found that not only is this

have found that not only is this relatively inaccurate but it also takes

relatively inaccurate but it also takes

relatively inaccurate but it also takes an incredible amount of time so I like

an incredible amount of time so I like

an incredible amount of time so I like to go to manual and just set an offset

to go to manual and just set an offset

to go to manual and just set an offset and see how the system runs now as you

and see how the system runs now as you

and see how the system runs now as you probably know I've already tested mine

probably know I've already tested mine

probably know I've already tested mine out and I can take the minimum of A50

out and I can take the minimum of A50

out and I can take the minimum of A50 offset on this processor which I was

offset on this processor which I was

offset on this processor which I was actually kind of surprised by but we're

actually kind of surprised by but we're

actually kind of surprised by but we're going to go ahead and leave it at that

going to go ahead and leave it at that

going to go ahead and leave it at that and we're going to go ahead and apply

and we're going to go ahead and apply

and we're going to go ahead and apply this right now so to do that all we have

this right now so to do that all we have

this right now so to do that all we have to do is just save the profile and then

to do is just save the profile and then

to do is just save the profile and then hit apply now when we hit apply it's

hit apply now when we hit apply it's

hit apply now when we hit apply it's going to want to restart the systems

going to want to restart the systems

going to want to restart the systems just in case you have anything open in

just in case you have anything open in

just in case you have anything open in the background so once we're done we're

the background so once we're done we're

the background so once we're done we're going to go ahead and hit restart now

going to go ahead and hit restart now

going to go ahead and hit restart now and hit okay now the curve Optimizer is

and hit okay now the curve Optimizer is

and hit okay now the curve Optimizer is one that I never had really played with

one that I never had really played with

one that I never had really played with before because it always took way too

before because it always took way too

before because it always took way too long for the computer to figure it out

long for the computer to figure it out

long for the computer to figure it out now if you set the curve Optimizer to

now if you set the curve Optimizer to

now if you set the curve Optimizer to automatic offset then it will test every

automatic offset then it will test every

automatic offset then it will test every single core to see what offset it's

single core to see what offset it's

single core to see what offset it's capable of running at if you do this on

capable of running at if you do this on

capable of running at if you do this on a per core basis it can take hours

a per core basis it can take hours

a per core basis it can take hours however you don't have to do that in

however you don't have to do that in

however you don't have to do that in fact I found it to be a lot easier just

fact I found it to be a lot easier just

fact I found it to be a lot easier just just to set it up with a manual offset

just to set it up with a manual offset

just to set it up with a manual offset not only does this take a lot less time

not only does this take a lot less time

not only does this take a lot less time but typically the automatic offset will

but typically the automatic offset will

but typically the automatic offset will give you an invalid offset that will end

give you an invalid offset that will end

give you an invalid offset that will end up having to be troubleshooted manually

up having to be troubleshooted manually

up having to be troubleshooted manually anyway now the way curve Optimizer works

anyway now the way curve Optimizer works

anyway now the way curve Optimizer works is kind of like an undervolt let me

is kind of like an undervolt let me

is kind of like an undervolt let me explain so as your processor boosts it

explain so as your processor boosts it

explain so as your processor boosts it increases its vcore voltage based on

increases its vcore voltage based on

increases its vcore voltage based on what frequency the processor happens to

what frequency the processor happens to

what frequency the processor happens to be running at so at this absolute Peak

be running at so at this absolute Peak

be running at so at this absolute Peak boost it might be running running at

boost it might be running running at

boost it might be running running at 1.27 molts but when your processor is

1.27 molts but when your processor is

1.27 molts but when your processor is running at 2 GHz it could be running at

running at 2 GHz it could be running at

running at 2 GHz it could be running at point8 molts now the way the curve

point8 molts now the way the curve

point8 molts now the way the curve Optimizer works is it uses an offset

Optimizer works is it uses an offset

Optimizer works is it uses an offset value that can be either positive or

value that can be either positive or

value that can be either positive or negative to move the entire voltage

negative to move the entire voltage

negative to move the entire voltage curve now these offset values aren't

curve now these offset values aren't

curve now these offset values aren't directly related to molts you know like

directly related to molts you know like

directly related to molts you know like undervolting is rather a negative - one

undervolting is rather a negative - one

undervolting is rather a negative - one offset will move the voltage curve by

offset will move the voltage curve by

offset will move the voltage curve by 0.006 molts this means that when you hit

0.006 molts this means that when you hit

0.006 molts this means that when you hit your maximum boost clock your vcor

your maximum boost clock your vcor

your maximum boost clock your vcor voltage will actually be 0.6 molts lower

voltage will actually be 0.6 molts lower

voltage will actually be 0.6 molts lower than it would have been without the

than it would have been without the

than it would have been without the offset now if you change the offset

offset now if you change the offset

offset now if you change the offset value to a positive one then what you

value to a positive one then what you

value to a positive one then what you hit your maximum boost clock your VC cor

hit your maximum boost clock your VC cor

hit your maximum boost clock your VC cor voltage will be 0.6 Mill volts higher

voltage will be 0.6 Mill volts higher

voltage will be 0.6 Mill volts higher than it would have been and the entire

than it would have been and the entire

than it would have been and the entire voltage curve is moved in the same

voltage curve is moved in the same

voltage curve is moved in the same amount now with all that said there's

amount now with all that said there's

amount now with all that said there's really no practical reason why you would

really no practical reason why you would

really no practical reason why you would want to use a positive offset value

want to use a positive offset value

want to use a positive offset value that's just going to increase your

that's just going to increase your

that's just going to increase your temperature and not allow your processor

temperature and not allow your processor

temperature and not allow your processor to boost as high as it would have so if

to boost as high as it would have so if

to boost as high as it would have so if you're finding that you're having to go

you're finding that you're having to go

you're finding that you're having to go to posit positive offsets then there's

to posit positive offsets then there's

to posit positive offsets then there's probably something wrong with your

probably something wrong with your

probably something wrong with your processor now unlike undervolting the

processor now unlike undervolting the

processor now unlike undervolting the way that the curve Optimizer works is it

way that the curve Optimizer works is it

way that the curve Optimizer works is it allows you to adjust the voltage curve

allows you to adjust the voltage curve

allows you to adjust the voltage curve for each specific core individually so

for each specific core individually so

for each specific core individually so let's say out of a six core processor

let's say out of a six core processor

let's say out of a six core processor you have two really strong cores and

you have two really strong cores and

you have two really strong cores and four that are not so strong you could

four that are not so strong you could

four that are not so strong you could set a lower curve on the two strong

set a lower curve on the two strong

set a lower curve on the two strong cores and a higher curve on the four

cores and a higher curve on the four

cores and a higher curve on the four weak ones also curve Optimizer allows

weak ones also curve Optimizer allows

weak ones also curve Optimizer allows you to change the curve per CCX as well

you to change the curve per CCX as well

you to change the curve per CCX as well now we're dealing with a ryzen

now we're dealing with a ryzen

now we're dealing with a ryzen 57600 so we only have the single CCX but

57600 so we only have the single CCX but

57600 so we only have the single CCX but if you have a ryzen that came with two

if you have a ryzen that came with two

if you have a ryzen that came with two CCX then you would be able to adjust the

CCX then you would be able to adjust the

CCX then you would be able to adjust the voltage curve for each CCX individually

voltage curve for each CCX individually

voltage curve for each CCX individually so if you had one that would handle a

so if you had one that would handle a

so if you had one that would handle a lower voltage then you could benefit

lower voltage then you could benefit

lower voltage then you could benefit from it now let's jump back on the

from it now let's jump back on the

from it now let's jump back on the computer and test our new curve

computer and test our new curve

computer and test our new curve Optimizer

Optimizer

Optimizer offset okay so every time you run ryzen

offset okay so every time you run ryzen

offset okay so every time you run ryzen master or you change the settings in

master or you change the settings in

master or you change the settings in ryzen master when you restart it's

ryzen master when you restart it's

ryzen master when you restart it's automatically going to open up ryzen

automatically going to open up ryzen

automatically going to open up ryzen Master again now the reason why it does

Master again now the reason why it does

Master again now the reason why it does this is because it wants to know if the

this is because it wants to know if the

this is because it wants to know if the settings you changed were reliable if

settings you changed were reliable if

settings you changed were reliable if they weren't then it obviously wouldn't

they weren't then it obviously wouldn't

they weren't then it obviously wouldn't open the program up again and then if

open the program up again and then if

open the program up again and then if you did end up rebooting it wouldn't

you did end up rebooting it wouldn't

you did end up rebooting it wouldn't save those settings it would go back to

save those settings it would go back to

save those settings it would go back to its default settings so now that we got

its default settings so now that we got

its default settings so now that we got this fired up I want to go ahead and run

this fired up I want to go ahead and run

this fired up I want to go ahead and run cin bench again real quick just to kind

cin bench again real quick just to kind

cin bench again real quick just to kind of compare it to what we did originally

of compare it to what we did originally

of compare it to what we did originally when we first started this is remember

when we first started this is remember

when we first started this is remember before our power limit was spiked the

before our power limit was spiked the

before our power limit was spiked the whole time and we weren't able to hit

whole time and we weren't able to hit

whole time and we weren't able to hit our maximum boost speed so we're going

our maximum boost speed so we're going

our maximum boost speed so we're going to see if we can now so to do that all

to see if we can now so to do that all

to see if we can now so to do that all we're going to do is start a multicore

we're going to do is start a multicore

we're going to do is start a multicore test and we're going to jump back into

test and we're going to jump back into

test and we're going to jump back into ryzen Master here and we're going to let

ryzen Master here and we're going to let

ryzen Master here and we're going to let it go and as you can see we are

it go and as you can see we are

it go and as you can see we are definitely not within our power limit

definitely not within our power limit

definitely not within our power limit and we're over our boost speed we're

and we're over our boost speed we're

and we're over our boost speed we're sitting at 5130 and it's sitting it's

sitting at 5130 and it's sitting it's

sitting at 5130 and it's sitting it's essentially not moving at all it's

essentially not moving at all it's

essentially not moving at all it's staying there and the reason why is

staying there and the reason why is

staying there and the reason why is because we're well within all of our

because we're well within all of our

because we're well within all of our other specs our temperature limit is way

other specs our temperature limit is way

other specs our temperature limit is way lower than it needs to be in fact if you

lower than it needs to be in fact if you

lower than it needs to be in fact if you notice we were sitting in the low 70s

notice we were sitting in the low 70s

notice we were sitting in the low 70s when before we touched anything and now

when before we touched anything and now

when before we touched anything and now we're sitting in the low 60s so that's a

we're sitting in the low 60s so that's a

we're sitting in the low 60s so that's a pretty good benefit right there so we

pretty good benefit right there so we

pretty good benefit right there so we essentially lost like 10° C on our

essentially lost like 10° C on our

essentially lost like 10° C on our temperature but we're also not power

temperature but we're also not power

temperature but we're also not power limited it at all we're sitting at 7% of

limited it at all we're sitting at 7% of

limited it at all we're sitting at 7% of our power limit so the next thing that I

our power limit so the next thing that I

our power limit so the next thing that I want to do is set up an automatic

want to do is set up an automatic

want to do is set up an automatic overclock essentially all this is going

overclock essentially all this is going

overclock essentially all this is going to do is change the maximum boost clock

to do is change the maximum boost clock

to do is change the maximum boost clock ryzen Master lets you set this to 200

ryzen Master lets you set this to 200

ryzen Master lets you set this to 200 mahz over your cpu's factory maximum

mahz over your cpu's factory maximum

mahz over your cpu's factory maximum boost clock so let's jump back on the

boost clock so let's jump back on the

boost clock so let's jump back on the system and let's get it set up okay so

system and let's get it set up okay so

system and let's get it set up okay so we're going to go ahead and close C

we're going to go ahead and close C

we're going to go ahead and close C bench here CU we're not going to need it

bench here CU we're not going to need it

bench here CU we're not going to need it anymore and we're going to go ahead and

anymore and we're going to go ahead and

anymore and we're going to go ahead and jump over to the curve Optimizer again

jump over to the curve Optimizer again

jump over to the curve Optimizer again now from curve Optimizer the way that we

now from curve Optimizer the way that we

now from curve Optimizer the way that we set up our Auto overclocking is

set up our Auto overclocking is

set up our Auto overclocking is essentially just by clicking on the tab

essentially just by clicking on the tab

essentially just by clicking on the tab Auto overclocking now all of our other

Auto overclocking now all of our other

Auto overclocking now all of our other settings for our curve Optimizer and our

settings for our curve Optimizer and our

settings for our curve Optimizer and our Precision boost overdrive should remain

Precision boost overdrive should remain

Precision boost overdrive should remain the same however it's going to give us

the same however it's going to give us

the same however it's going to give us this one new box right here that allows

this one new box right here that allows

this one new box right here that allows us to change what our boost override Is

us to change what our boost override Is

us to change what our boost override Is Now by default it's going to be 100 MHz

Now by default it's going to be 100 MHz

Now by default it's going to be 100 MHz however we want more we're going to go

however we want more we're going to go

however we want more we're going to go all the way to 200 and then once you set

all the way to 200 and then once you set

all the way to 200 and then once you set that you essentially just apply it and

that you essentially just apply it and

that you essentially just apply it and it restarts the system and it should be

it restarts the system and it should be

it restarts the system and it should be similar like it did before as soon as

similar like it did before as soon as

similar like it did before as soon as you hit okay it'll go ahead and reboot

you hit okay it'll go ahead and reboot

you hit okay it'll go ahead and reboot the computer so now that we have

the computer so now that we have

the computer so now that we have Precision boost overdrive configured we

Precision boost overdrive configured we

Precision boost overdrive configured we need to see just how well this thing

need to see just how well this thing

need to see just how well this thing performs just like last week I'm doing

performs just like last week I'm doing

performs just like last week I'm doing all this testing in cinebench R23 now as

all this testing in cinebench R23 now as

all this testing in cinebench R23 now as you can see from this graph enabling

you can see from this graph enabling

you can see from this graph enabling Precision boost overdrive alone

Precision boost overdrive alone

Precision boost overdrive alone increased our temperature now that makes

increased our temperature now that makes

increased our temperature now that makes sense because we're essentially took

sense because we're essentially took

sense because we're essentially took away all of its power limits

away all of its power limits

away all of its power limits so with the water cooling by itself we

so with the water cooling by itself we

so with the water cooling by itself we averaged around 77 C but by enabling

averaged around 77 C but by enabling

averaged around 77 C but by enabling Precision boost overdrive we averaged

Precision boost overdrive we averaged

Precision boost overdrive we averaged around 83c now if we switch over and

around 83c now if we switch over and

around 83c now if we switch over and look at the frequencies that we were

look at the frequencies that we were

look at the frequencies that we were able to hit we didn't get much for

able to hit we didn't get much for

able to hit we didn't get much for eliminating our power limits I mean we

eliminating our power limits I mean we

eliminating our power limits I mean we got a little bit more but not enough to

got a little bit more but not enough to

got a little bit more but not enough to justify the increase in temperature at

justify the increase in temperature at

justify the increase in temperature at all with the factory settings we

all with the factory settings we

all with the factory settings we averaged

averaged

averaged 4,971 MHz and with Precision boost

4,971 MHz and with Precision boost

4,971 MHz and with Precision boost overdrive we Aver averaged

overdrive we Aver averaged

overdrive we Aver averaged 4,986 mahz that gave us a whopping 15

4,986 mahz that gave us a whopping 15

4,986 mahz that gave us a whopping 15 MHz that cost us a whopping 6° increase

MHz that cost us a whopping 6° increase

MHz that cost us a whopping 6° increase in our average temperature now the

in our average temperature now the

in our average temperature now the reason why this happened is because

reason why this happened is because

reason why this happened is because while we did get rid of the power limit

while we did get rid of the power limit

while we did get rid of the power limit that was holding us back we ran right

that was holding us back we ran right

that was holding us back we ran right into the thermal limit again so in this

into the thermal limit again so in this

into the thermal limit again so in this case enabling Precision boost overdrive

case enabling Precision boost overdrive

case enabling Precision boost overdrive just wasn't worth it however all that

just wasn't worth it however all that

just wasn't worth it however all that changes once we enabled the curve

changes once we enabled the curve

changes once we enabled the curve optimize

optimize

optimize because as you can see here our

because as you can see here our

because as you can see here our temperature got a huge improvement from

temperature got a huge improvement from

temperature got a huge improvement from the curve Optimizer now granted I'm

the curve Optimizer now granted I'm

the curve Optimizer now granted I'm running a -50 offset so if you can't get

running a -50 offset so if you can't get

running a -50 offset so if you can't get that high of a negative offset then your

that high of a negative offset then your

that high of a negative offset then your results are going to vary of course

results are going to vary of course

results are going to vary of course however with the Curve Optimizer enabled

however with the Curve Optimizer enabled

however with the Curve Optimizer enabled we got an average temperature of 64 C

we got an average temperature of 64 C

we got an average temperature of 64 C that's a 13° drop in our average

that's a 13° drop in our average

that's a 13° drop in our average temperature from the factory settings

temperature from the factory settings

temperature from the factory settings and a 19° drop from just having

and a 19° drop from just having

and a 19° drop from just having Precision boost overdrive enabled alone

Precision boost overdrive enabled alone

Precision boost overdrive enabled alone so let's flip over to this graph and see

so let's flip over to this graph and see

so let's flip over to this graph and see what this gives us for our frequencies

what this gives us for our frequencies

what this gives us for our frequencies as you can see we finally hit our

as you can see we finally hit our

as you can see we finally hit our advertised boost speed on all cores and

advertised boost speed on all cores and

advertised boost speed on all cores and it was extremely stable as you saw in

it was extremely stable as you saw in

it was extremely stable as you saw in the example in fact the average boost

the example in fact the average boost

the example in fact the average boost clock was

clock was

clock was 5,140 MHz that's 40 MHz over the

5,140 MHz that's 40 MHz over the

5,140 MHz that's 40 MHz over the advertised boost speed of 5.1 GHz and

advertised boost speed of 5.1 GHz and

advertised boost speed of 5.1 GHz and it's stuck there through through the

it's stuck there through through the

it's stuck there through through the entire run now if we flip over to our

entire run now if we flip over to our

entire run now if we flip over to our power usage this is also a pretty

power usage this is also a pretty

power usage this is also a pretty telling graph so as you can see right

telling graph so as you can see right

telling graph so as you can see right off the bat that our stock configuration

off the bat that our stock configuration

off the bat that our stock configuration we were definitely power limited in the

we were definitely power limited in the

we were definitely power limited in the CPU stock configuration we averaged

CPU stock configuration we averaged

CPU stock configuration we averaged around 90 Watts but we saw that when we

around 90 Watts but we saw that when we

around 90 Watts but we saw that when we started in ryzen master then if you look

started in ryzen master then if you look

started in ryzen master then if you look at the red line for just Precision boost

at the red line for just Precision boost

at the red line for just Precision boost overdrive being enabled it makes sense

overdrive being enabled it makes sense

overdrive being enabled it makes sense that our power usage would go up up

that our power usage would go up up

that our power usage would go up up because we eliminated all power limits

because we eliminated all power limits

because we eliminated all power limits this caused our CPU to average around 96

this caused our CPU to average around 96

this caused our CPU to average around 96 Watts but this unfortunately pushed us

Watts but this unfortunately pushed us

Watts but this unfortunately pushed us to our thermal limit causing us to not

to our thermal limit causing us to not

to our thermal limit causing us to not be able to take advantage of more boost

be able to take advantage of more boost

be able to take advantage of more boost clocks however once we turned on the

clocks however once we turned on the

clocks however once we turned on the curve Optimizer as you can see from the

curve Optimizer as you can see from the

curve Optimizer as you can see from the graph our average power usage for the

graph our average power usage for the

graph our average power usage for the total CPU power dropped to 66 Watts this

total CPU power dropped to 66 Watts this

total CPU power dropped to 66 Watts this explains why we were able to hit and

explains why we were able to hit and

explains why we were able to hit and maintain our maximum boost clock and do

maintain our maximum boost clock and do

maintain our maximum boost clock and do all of that at a considerably lower

all of that at a considerably lower

all of that at a considerably lower temperature so now that we can see that

temperature so now that we can see that

temperature so now that we can see that the curve Optimizer definitely works

the curve Optimizer definitely works

the curve Optimizer definitely works what results did we get from our

what results did we get from our

what results did we get from our overclock well let's go to the graph as

overclock well let's go to the graph as

overclock well let's go to the graph as you can see here the yellow line

you can see here the yellow line

you can see here the yellow line indicates our temperature from our

indicates our temperature from our

indicates our temperature from our overclock we were pretty much all over

overclock we were pretty much all over

overclock we were pretty much all over the scale with it peaking at over 80°

the scale with it peaking at over 80°

the scale with it peaking at over 80° and dropping down as low as

and dropping down as low as

and dropping down as low as 73° this gave us an average temperature

73° this gave us an average temperature

73° this gave us an average temperature about 74° across the entire run now when

about 74° across the entire run now when

about 74° across the entire run now when we switch to this graph for our

we switch to this graph for our

we switch to this graph for our frequencies you can see that we were

frequencies you can see that we were

frequencies you can see that we were able to boost the 200 MHz that we had

able to boost the 200 MHz that we had

able to boost the 200 MHz that we had set without any problem in fact we got

set without any problem in fact we got

set without any problem in fact we got an average boost clock of across all

an average boost clock of across all

an average boost clock of across all cores of

cores of

cores of 5,333 MHz those are 7600 X boost speeds

5,333 MHz those are 7600 X boost speeds

5,333 MHz those are 7600 X boost speeds and it was stable across the entire run

and it was stable across the entire run

and it was stable across the entire run so that 5.3 GHz was a sustained boost

so that 5.3 GHz was a sustained boost

so that 5.3 GHz was a sustained boost clock now when we switch over to power

clock now when we switch over to power

clock now when we switch over to power usage with our overclock you can see

usage with our overclock you can see

usage with our overclock you can see that the purple line our power usage was

that the purple line our power usage was

that the purple line our power usage was definitely more than with the Curve

definitely more than with the Curve

definitely more than with the Curve Optimizer enabled however it was still

Optimizer enabled however it was still

Optimizer enabled however it was still lower than the stock configuration we

lower than the stock configuration we

lower than the stock configuration we averaged about 83 watts of total CPU

averaged about 83 watts of total CPU

averaged about 83 watts of total CPU power across the entire run while the

power across the entire run while the

power across the entire run while the factory configuration averaged about 89

factory configuration averaged about 89

factory configuration averaged about 89 Watts so for the most part I'm actually

Watts so for the most part I'm actually

Watts so for the most part I'm actually really pleased with the results here

really pleased with the results here

really pleased with the results here however these settings were only tested

however these settings were only tested

however these settings were only tested in cinebench I also let Heaven run for a

in cinebench I also let Heaven run for a

in cinebench I also let Heaven run for a couple hours just to see how stable the

couple hours just to see how stable the

couple hours just to see how stable the 50 offset was in the curve Optimizer and

50 offset was in the curve Optimizer and

50 offset was in the curve Optimizer and I didn't have a single crash so as of

I didn't have a single crash so as of

I didn't have a single crash so as of right now I assume the system is solid

right now I assume the system is solid

right now I assume the system is solid however when it comes to the curve

however when it comes to the curve

however when it comes to the curve Optimizer and using a relatively High

Optimizer and using a relatively High

Optimizer and using a relatively High offset there's a chance that you could

offset there's a chance that you could

offset there's a chance that you could see instability at lower clock speeds

see instability at lower clock speeds

see instability at lower clock speeds remember when we talked before about how

remember when we talked before about how

remember when we talked before about how the curve Optimizer moves the entire

the curve Optimizer moves the entire

the curve Optimizer moves the entire voltage curve well the lower voltage may

voltage curve well the lower voltage may

voltage curve well the lower voltage may be adequate to run the processor at its

be adequate to run the processor at its

be adequate to run the processor at its top boost speed but when you it may

top boost speed but when you it may

top boost speed but when you it may become unstable when it's running at

become unstable when it's running at

become unstable when it's running at lower speeds like 1 or two GHz so the

lower speeds like 1 or two GHz so the

lower speeds like 1 or two GHz so the only way to really test the curve

only way to really test the curve

only way to really test the curve Optimizer is by using the system

Optimizer is by using the system

Optimizer is by using the system ultimately you shouldn't have

ultimately you shouldn't have

ultimately you shouldn't have instability with Modern Hardware if your

instability with Modern Hardware if your

instability with Modern Hardware if your computer is crashing periodically or

computer is crashing periodically or

computer is crashing periodically or you're getting random blue screens every

you're getting random blue screens every

you're getting random blue screens every once in a while then the problem very

once in a while then the problem very

once in a while then the problem very well could be your voltage curve if you

well could be your voltage curve if you

well could be your voltage curve if you set it down too far so if that happens

set it down too far so if that happens

set it down too far so if that happens you just need to raise the curve

you just need to raise the curve

you just need to raise the curve Optimizer offset and your system should

Optimizer offset and your system should

Optimizer offset and your system should become stable personally I'm going to

become stable personally I'm going to

become stable personally I'm going to leave mine at-50 if I can get away with

leave mine at-50 if I can get away with

leave mine at-50 if I can get away with it also if you want you can go to a per

it also if you want you can go to a per

it also if you want you can go to a per core offset with the Curve Optimizer and

core offset with the Curve Optimizer and

core offset with the Curve Optimizer and try to figure out which core

try to figure out which core

try to figure out which core specifically is having instability with

specifically is having instability with

specifically is having instability with the higher offsets that going to take a

the higher offsets that going to take a

the higher offsets that going to take a lot longer to figure out but it's

lot longer to figure out but it's

lot longer to figure out but it's possible that you could have higher

possible that you could have higher

possible that you could have higher offsets with some of your better cores

offsets with some of your better cores

offsets with some of your better cores and lower offsets with some of your

and lower offsets with some of your

and lower offsets with some of your weaker cores so it might be worth the

weaker cores so it might be worth the

weaker cores so it might be worth the time to invest to figure it out but if

time to invest to figure it out but if

time to invest to figure it out but if you do that write it down just in case

you do that write it down just in case

you do that write it down just in case you need to reinstall ryzen Master

you need to reinstall ryzen Master

you need to reinstall ryzen Master someday you know however the one setting

someday you know however the one setting

someday you know however the one setting that I do think I'm going to turn off is

that I do think I'm going to turn off is

that I do think I'm going to turn off is the auto overclock and just let mine

the auto overclock and just let mine

the auto overclock and just let mine boost to 5.1 GHz personally I kind of of

boost to 5.1 GHz personally I kind of of

boost to 5.1 GHz personally I kind of of like the lower temperatures and the

like the lower temperatures and the

like the lower temperatures and the chances of my -50 offset being stable

chances of my -50 offset being stable

chances of my -50 offset being stable are more likely at 5.1 than they are at

are more likely at 5.1 than they are at

are more likely at 5.1 than they are at 5.3 but with that said if you like

5.3 but with that said if you like

5.3 but with that said if you like getting something for nothing then check

getting something for nothing then check

getting something for nothing then check out this video where I show you how to

out this video where I show you how to

out this video where I show you how to set up Windows 11 as a gaming system

set up Windows 11 as a gaming system

set up Windows 11 as a gaming system there's lots of tweaks in that video to

there's lots of tweaks in that video to

there's lots of tweaks in that video to help you get even more performance out

help you get even more performance out

help you get even more performance out of your hardware for free I also did the

of your hardware for free I also did the

of your hardware for free I also did the same video for Windows 10 and I'll leave

same video for Windows 10 and I'll leave

same video for Windows 10 and I'll leave a link to that in the Des description

a link to that in the Des description

a link to that in the Des description below as always you guys have a great

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