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Over four years,
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a cruel, calculating predator
terrorizes the United States.
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It's up to three rookie
detectives to hunt him down.
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I think he actually enjoyed
people who were dead.
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Whatever it was inside him
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was just building up
and building up and building up.
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Now, decades later,
lead investigator Bob keppel
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shares his extraordinary
experience
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of chasing one of America's
most notorious serial killers.
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Don't know.
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Everything Ted Bundy did
was a game.
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Everything.
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June 1974.
The pacific northwest.
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In the last five months,
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four female college students
have vanished.
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There really are no clues,
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no theories as to
the disappearance of the girls.
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Fear spreads like wildfire
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throughout Washington state.
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30-year-old rookie
homicide detective Bob keppel
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is just two weeks
into his new job
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at king county sheriff's office.
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After working one
successful murder investigation,
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he's now assigned the case
of a fifth missing woman.
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The Brenda ball case --
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That was my first real case
to be called out upon.
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The 22-year-old was last seen
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leaving the flame tavern
in burien,
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10 miles outside Seattle.
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I contacted several people
who knew her.
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There was no trace of her
anywhere.
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A month into the investigation,
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two more students
are reported missing --
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23-year-old Janice ott
and 19-year-old Denise naslund.
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Both were last seen
on the same day
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at lake sammamish,
a popular beach
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12 miles east of Seattle.
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The cases are assigned
to Bob keppel
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and another rookie detective
Roger Dunn.
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Roger was a good partner to have
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because he didn't mince words
with anybody.
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Although they don't know it yet,
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the young detectives
are on the tail
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of one of America's
most prolific killers.
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In succeeding days,
we were contacted by women
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who had seen Janice ott
walking with a male
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wearing a sling on his arm.
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So he had a special look
to himself
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that nobody else had there.
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At least three people saw him
come up
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and talk with Janice ott.
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They heard him say,
"hi, I'm Ted."
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Another witness
also reports being approached
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by a similar-looking young man,
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who she claims tried to lure her
to this car --
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A vw bug.
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But nobody can offer
any information
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on the other missing woman.
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No one saw anyone
approach Denise naslund.
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She was gone.
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The case makes headline news.
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24-year-old Kathleen mcchesney,
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one of only four female
detectives in king county,
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closely follows its progress.
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At the time of these cases,
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I wasn't that much older
than the women
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who ultimately became victims,
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so I felt almost part
of what was going on
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in the college communities
at the time.
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Drawing from
eyewitness testimony,
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police release a sketch
of the alleged perpetrator
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from lake sammamish,
a man they think is called Ted.
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We had well over 500 calls a day
coming in.
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The problem is
we couldn't be guaranteed
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that the Volkswagen bug
or the name Ted were real.
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When we asked the women
that were on the beach,
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one of them heard the name Ted.
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Another one heard the name ned.
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And another one heard Fred.
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So flip a coin.
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Which one is it?
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In terms
of surveillance cameras,
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people didn't have cellphones,
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so at lake sammamish,
for example,
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if that were to occur today...
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...you would have thousands
of photographs
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on a Sunday afternoon
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that you would be able
to get ahold of.
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We had virtually
a half a dozen or a dozen.
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Keppel checks the whereabouts
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of several well-known rapists
and murderers
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and turns up a promising lead.
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John Paul Knowles
was a serial killer
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who was in a hotel right near
lake sammamish state park
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the week before
the crimes occurred.
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On September 7th,
two hunters on a wooded hillside
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two miles east of lake sammamish
make a chilling discovery --
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Human remains.
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I was the one chosen to be
kind of in charge of the search.
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And we searched
for maybe 10 minutes
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and started finding bones.
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What do you got there, Bob?
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Just more bones so far.
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Jawbones, as a matter of fact,
aren't they?
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Well, one kind of looks like
a jawbone, yes.
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Got teeth in it?
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Yes.
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The search lasts for a week.
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It turns up 26 bones, including
a skull and two jawbones
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later identified as belonging to
Janice ott and Denise naslund.
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Bones of a third victim
are also recovered,
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but cannot be identified.
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The bone fragments reveal
the true horror of the crimes.
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Have you ever seen
anything like that?
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No.
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Guy's a psycho.
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He's a pathetic
screwball psycho.
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What the hell's
he doing to those women?
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Would you stop talking about it,
please?
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That jawbone...
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It was totally smashed.
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He'd beaten her to a pulp.
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What kind of sick mind makes
you do something like that?
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And why -- why is he doing
something like that?
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Just take it easy, Roger.
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It's nuts.
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I think Roger felt
more personal responsibility
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for not stopping the crimes.
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And Bob approached it more from
an investigator's standpoint.
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So, he likes order, he likes
conclusions to things,
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and he doesn't talk
about feelings.
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The missing persons cases
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of Denise naslund and Janice ott
have now been designated
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a large-scale homicide
investigation.
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It enabled us to think
that we needed to look
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more into other missing persons.
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But every other missing person
that could have been out there
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at the time, we found alive.
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But there were these few
that were never found.
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Over the next six months,
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keppel expands his investigation
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to include
a further five missing women --
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Lynda Healy, Donna manson,
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Susan rancourt,
georgann Hawkins,
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and his original case,
Brenda ball.
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Could they have fallen victim
to the same ruthless killer?
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It wasn't a popular theory
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that they were all abducted
by the same person.
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It had never happened before,
so why would it happen then?
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Since getting assigned
the case seven months ago,
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keppel and Dunn
still have no hard evidence
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pointing to a suspect.
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And one of their best early
leads has already gone cold.
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The known killer in the area,
John Paul Knowles,
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had left town before ott
and naslund's disappearance,
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and there's another reason
to exclude him.
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The suspect was thought
to be anywhere from 5'10" to 6'.
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John Paul Knowles was closer
to 6'6".
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Despite Knowles
being ruled out as a suspect,
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keppel believes
the cases are linked.
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But to prove it,
he needs evidence.
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The problem is forensic science
in the 1970s is in its infancy,
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and DNA analysis
hasn't been invented.
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Dental records were the only way
they could be identified.
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For instance, Susan rancourt --
She had a bridge.
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Brenda ball -- she had fillings.
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So I had basically memorized
the dental charts
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of all known missing women,
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so I knew quite a bit
about what I was to find.
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March 2, 1975,
on Taylor mountain,
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just 10 miles from where
the first bones were found,
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two forestry students
stumble across a human skull.
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Detective keppel is
one of the first on the scene.
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As soon as he sees
the skull's teeth,
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he knows the victim's name.
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Brenda ball.
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That same day,
I found another skull,
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which turned out to be
Susan rancourt.
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And then later on,
we found a skull
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belonging to Kathy parks
from Oregon state university.
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Remains of another
victim later prove to be
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that of 21-year-old
college student Lynda Healy.
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All four skulls
had fracture marks.
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The head injuries sustained
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by the victims at both sites
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confirm Bob keppel's
worst fears.
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It was a pretty good indicator
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that they all suffered damage
from the same person.
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And that's not all.
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The killer's
not just dumping bodies.
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He's decapitating them.
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In the pacific northwest,
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female college students
are disappearing
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at a terrifying rate.
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What do you got there, Bob?
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When decapitated bodies
start turning up,
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police realize they're chasing
a crazed serial killer,
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the likes of which
has never been known before.
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It's unreal and it's a nightmare
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and nothing in anybody's manual
would prepare you
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for something like this.
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Now, with remains
found at two sites
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and tips flooding in,
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the king county
sheriff's department recognizes
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they need more man power
to work the case.
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Radio check.
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A task force is established
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with Bob keppel and Roger Dunn
lead detectives.
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There was nothing like this case
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that I could find
in the history,
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anywhere in Washington state.
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Since young women
first began disappearing
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13 months ago,
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investigators have positively
identified six bodies.
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Only 18-year-old
georgann Hawkins
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and 19-year-old Donna manson
remain unaccounted for.
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In Seattle,
fear grows that they, too,
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may have fallen victim
to the brutal predator
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known to police as "Ted."
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It was very hard to solve
because we had nothing.
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We had no good suspect
that stood out.
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Officers spend
thousands of hours
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trying to get their heads
around the challenging case.
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But just one month later,
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the task force is disbanded
with no real progress
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having been made.
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Keppel and Dunn are left
with more than 3,000
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possible suspects
and no solid leads.
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When their captain offers
just one more detective
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to assist them,
they make a bold move.
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They choose one of keppel's
former trainees,
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24-year-old Kathleen mcchesney,
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a detective in
the checks and fraud division.
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She was eager to get out
of checks and fraud
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because that's a loser place
if you're a detective.
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There were certainly some men
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who didn't think that women
should be in law enforcement,
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but Bob keppel is an individual
who is focused on work,
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and he doesn't care
what his partner looks like.
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He only cares how they act and
the intellect that they provide.
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Detective mcchesney
offers the investigation
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something incredibly valuable --
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A female perspective on how
the killer targets his victims.
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This was someone
who was very bright, very smart,
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who had a little bit
of the gift of gab
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and able to convince someone
to go with him.
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Why do they keep falling for it?
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I mean, why do they go off with
an unknown guy -- this loser?
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I think he... Loves women.
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I think he knows what they want.
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Women like that.
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I'd like that.
255
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I want to meet a nice guy.
256
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At first, that's him.
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The first killing
is dangerous --
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Scary, probably...
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Exciting.
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So he tries it again.
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Is he gonna keep on killing?
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Oh, he's hooked.
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He can't stop.
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Seattle in the 1970s
was a pretty loose,
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liberal sort of community.
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People were more trusting
and certainly less suspicious
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of strangers
than they are today.
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But after the murders,
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women were becoming afraid
to go out,
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afraid to talk to people,
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afraid to do the kinds of things
that they had done very safely
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and without a thought
prior to that.
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She didn't show up to the final.
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I talked to the professor
the next day.
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He said he was really surprised
that she didn't show up.
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Rumors circulate
that the killer preys
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on a particular type.
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Victims were
all women, of course,
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of a certain age,
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generally their late teens,
early 20s.
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But age and appearance
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are only part
of the killer's m.O.
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The fact that
he went to college campuses
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and found victims was
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because he was so comfortable
in the college setting.
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He knew how to talk to co-eds.
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He knew how to approach them.
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So that was his area.
289
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That was where he did his work.
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With no viable suspect,
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the stress mounts
on the lead detectives.
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The media were surrounding us,
seeking information,
293
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but it wasn't just
because it was sensational.
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It was because the community
really needed to know
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what was going on.
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This is a little different
than most homicide cases
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that we handled.
298
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I don't know that people realize
the burden that detectives have
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or the responsibility or guilt.
300
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I think that Bob was thinking
about that all the time.
301
00:17:51,271 --> 00:17:54,380
Working such
an impossible, high-stakes case
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00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,441
in the glare
of the media spotlight,
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keppel, Dunn, and mcchesney
are living in a pressure cooker.
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00:18:00,947 --> 00:18:03,414
But they refuse to lose hope.
305
00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,817
I think people perhaps thought
it was Un-solvable.
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00:18:05,819 --> 00:18:07,752
We never believed that.
307
00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:10,288
I think one of these days
we'll find him.
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00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:12,490
I can't tell you when,
but we will.
309
00:18:12,492 --> 00:18:15,293
But with
so many potential suspects,
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they're drowning in paperwork.
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00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:19,897
It was overwhelming,
and in a case like that,
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00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:22,266
it's possible that you're gonna
overlook something.
313
00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:26,737
And that's
your biggest nightmare.
314
00:18:26,739 --> 00:18:31,409
Swamped by names,
dates, car models, and alibis,
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00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:34,846
keppel realizes they have
too much data to process.
316
00:18:34,848 --> 00:18:37,148
Desperate to make sense of it,
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00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:39,984
he comes up
with a startling idea.
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I ran into the computer person,
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and I started talking to him
320
00:18:46,392 --> 00:18:50,128
about what could he do
to help us.
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00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:52,363
I thought there was a chance
322
00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:55,600
the computer could take
all the names we had
323
00:18:55,602 --> 00:18:59,971
and categorize them
and link them together.
324
00:18:59,973 --> 00:19:04,442
In 1975,
with computers in their infancy,
325
00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:07,780
it's a revolutionary concept.
326
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,714
We believe it was
the first time computers
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00:19:09,716 --> 00:19:11,749
have been used
in a criminal investigation.
328
00:19:11,751 --> 00:19:14,218
Being able to use computers
329
00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:20,391
was absolutely an essential part
of putting that case together.
330
00:19:20,393 --> 00:19:23,461
Now able
to cross-reference owners
331
00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:27,465
of vw bugs with up to
30 other sub-categories,
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00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:29,600
keppel and his team
reduce their list
333
00:19:29,602 --> 00:19:34,739
of potential suspects
from nearly 3,000 to just 100.
334
00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:37,642
Now they must Wade
alphabetically through
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00:19:37,644 --> 00:19:39,777
the new computer-generated list,
336
00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:42,947
eliminating suspects
as fast as they can
337
00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:45,183
before the killer strikes again.
338
00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:49,420
We definitely wanted an alibi --
339
00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:52,890
Something when it would prove
whoever we were looking at
340
00:19:52,892 --> 00:19:57,895
was not at lake sammamish
on Sunday, July 14th.
341
00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:05,369
It's a painstakingly
slow process.
342
00:20:05,371 --> 00:20:09,607
In two months,
they eliminate only six names.
343
00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:14,645
Incredibly, during that time,
no more women go missing.
344
00:20:14,647 --> 00:20:17,615
So, where is Ted?
345
00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:22,220
Either the killer was dead
or had moved on.
346
00:20:22,222 --> 00:20:25,256
If the killer
has fled Washington state,
347
00:20:25,258 --> 00:20:27,692
his trail could easily go cold.
348
00:20:27,694 --> 00:20:31,295
Then suddenly,
the detectives catch a break.
349
00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:35,660
You always hope that
your offender makes a mistake.
350
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,603
Oh, I was convinced
he was the right one.
351
00:20:47,312 --> 00:20:49,714
After a year hunting
a serial killer
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00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:51,916
known only as "Ted,"
353
00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:55,860
king county detectives
keppel, Dunn, and mcchesney
354
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,688
have two
unexplained disappearances
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00:20:57,690 --> 00:21:00,458
and 94 possible suspects.
356
00:21:16,141 --> 00:21:18,826
October 15, 1975.
357
00:21:18,828 --> 00:21:21,212
A 28-year-old man is arrested
358
00:21:21,214 --> 00:21:24,248
for the attempted kidnapping
of Carol daronch,
359
00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:27,818
an 18-year-old
telephone operator.
360
00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:30,688
Impersonating a police officer,
361
00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:33,524
the man lured her to his car
and attacked her
362
00:21:33,526 --> 00:21:35,993
before she managed to escape.
363
00:21:35,995 --> 00:21:39,196
His vehicle
was a Volkswagen bug,
364
00:21:39,198 --> 00:21:42,333
which was our suspect vehicle.
365
00:21:42,335 --> 00:21:44,402
And there were some things
about the description
366
00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:49,240
that also reinforced
it probably was this Ted person.
367
00:21:49,242 --> 00:21:54,979
Has the ruthless
killer made his first mistake?
368
00:21:56,581 --> 00:21:58,749
Detectives immediately check
the man's name
369
00:21:58,751 --> 00:22:02,860
against their list
of possible suspects.
370
00:22:10,762 --> 00:22:16,000
Theodore Robert Bundy
was Ted โช7.
371
00:22:18,887 --> 00:22:23,457
In his vehicle, there was a mask
with eye holes cut out,
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00:22:23,459 --> 00:22:26,944
a crowbar,
and a pair of handcuffs.
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00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:31,949
There were things that you would
expect a serial killer to have.
374
00:22:31,951 --> 00:22:37,154
Ted Bundy immediately
becomes the prime suspect
375
00:22:37,156 --> 00:22:39,290
in the Washington state
slayings.
376
00:22:39,292 --> 00:22:44,962
Still, investigators
must check Bundy's alibis
377
00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:48,699
against each
of the six known murders.
378
00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:53,504
They go straight to the person
who knows him best --
379
00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:57,475
His long-term girlfriend, Liz.
380
00:22:57,477 --> 00:22:59,810
You know he's been charged --
381
00:22:59,812 --> 00:23:02,413
Aggravated kidnapping.
382
00:23:02,415 --> 00:23:05,116
No. That's not possible.
383
00:23:05,118 --> 00:23:07,510
He wouldn't. You can ask anyone.
384
00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:13,257
Liz...
385
00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:16,260
Those are all the items
found in his car.
386
00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:18,462
Can you explain any of that?
387
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:20,598
No.
388
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,800
He didn't do anything.
389
00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:24,101
I love him.
390
00:23:24,103 --> 00:23:25,536
We're gonna get married.
391
00:23:25,538 --> 00:23:27,400
I shouldn't even be here.
392
00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:30,941
Is he violent with you?
393
00:23:30,943 --> 00:23:32,843
No.
394
00:23:34,446 --> 00:23:36,130
Once or twice.
395
00:23:37,282 --> 00:23:40,151
Despite protesting
his innocence,
396
00:23:40,153 --> 00:23:41,685
Liz wasn't with her boyfriend
397
00:23:41,687 --> 00:23:45,489
on the day that two young women
went missing at lake sammamish.
398
00:23:45,491 --> 00:23:50,394
And now it emerges
that she had been wary of Bundy
399
00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:54,732
since the first composite sketch
was released in July 1974,
400
00:23:54,734 --> 00:23:58,350
more than a year ago.
401
00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:03,774
She was concerned when Ted
started to demonstrate behaviors
402
00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:06,977
that were unusual
403
00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:10,448
and, in fact,
to her words, somewhat scary.
404
00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:16,253
She was among
hundreds of other women
405
00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:20,724
who had turned in their
boyfriends as possible suspects.
406
00:24:20,726 --> 00:24:23,270
After Liz called police
407
00:24:23,290 --> 00:24:24,829
with a tip about her boyfriend,
408
00:24:24,831 --> 00:24:27,798
they ran a background check
on Bundy,
409
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,802
but found nothing suspicious.
410
00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:35,390
Now they must dig deeper.
411
00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:37,675
We began to investigate him.
412
00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:40,945
We contacted everybody
we could find
413
00:24:40,947 --> 00:24:42,446
that had anything
to do with him --
414
00:24:42,448 --> 00:24:45,349
His professors
at the university of Washington,
415
00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:47,718
locations where he'd worked,
416
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,889
locations where he'd lived,
his relatives.
417
00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:54,692
Outwardly,
Ted Bundy appears handsome,
418
00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:56,527
charming, and polite.
419
00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:03,330
Could this clean-cut
28-year-old former law student
420
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:06,360
really be capable
of such atrocities?
421
00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:09,600
Our son is the best son
in the world.
422
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,374
We still don't believe it.
423
00:25:10,376 --> 00:25:11,842
It just can't be.
424
00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:16,680
I keep shaking my head day after
day, saying, "how can this be?"
425
00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:20,150
Everyone thought we were wrong.
426
00:25:20,152 --> 00:25:25,556
I mean, when you have governors
speaking on your behalf,
427
00:25:25,558 --> 00:25:29,226
that helps you look like
a good person.
428
00:25:30,695 --> 00:25:33,630
But the fact that Ted
was from Seattle
429
00:25:33,650 --> 00:25:36,967
and had been in the Seattle area
at the time of our cases
430
00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:41,739
led me to believe that we had
a really good suspect here.
431
00:25:41,741 --> 00:25:46,430
We couldn't find anything
that would eliminate him.
432
00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:48,946
I think Ted Bundy
was very successful
433
00:25:48,948 --> 00:25:51,749
at separating
the different parts of his life,
434
00:25:51,751 --> 00:25:55,152
whether it was from women
he was seeing, his professors --
435
00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:59,256
They were never able
to see the dark side of him
436
00:25:59,258 --> 00:26:02,927
because Ted was
a master manipulator.
437
00:26:02,929 --> 00:26:04,828
I'll plead not guilty right now.
438
00:26:07,632 --> 00:26:12,369
In November 1975,
one month after Bundy's arrest,
439
00:26:12,371 --> 00:26:14,805
Bob keppel travels
to Aspen, Colorado,
440
00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:17,274
to meet with detectives
and prosecutors
441
00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:21,912
investigating the murder
of 23-year-old caryn Campbell.
442
00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:25,783
Their prime suspect --
Ted Bundy.
443
00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:29,286
We knew that if he got
a conviction in Colorado,
444
00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:31,355
it would strengthen our case,
445
00:26:31,357 --> 00:26:36,493
and we'd be able to use
their conviction in our courts.
446
00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:38,529
Also in attendance
447
00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:41,532
are detectives
from Utah and California.
448
00:26:41,534 --> 00:26:44,134
It's only when they compare
case notes
449
00:26:44,136 --> 00:26:48,720
that they realize the true
extent of Bundy's crimes.
450
00:26:56,448 --> 00:27:00,417
On march 1, 1976,
Ted Bundy is found guilty
451
00:27:00,419 --> 00:27:03,587
of the kidnapping and assault
of Carol daronch.
452
00:27:03,589 --> 00:27:06,690
He is sentenced
to between 1 and 15 years
453
00:27:06,692 --> 00:27:09,260
in Utah state prison.
454
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,662
He is also charged
with the Colorado murder
455
00:27:11,664 --> 00:27:14,598
of caryn Campbell
after locks of her hair
456
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,634
were discovered in his car.
457
00:27:17,569 --> 00:27:22,239
But while Bundy awaits trial,
the unthinkable happens.
458
00:27:22,241 --> 00:27:27,211
I received a telephone call
that said,
459
00:27:27,213 --> 00:27:29,913
"he's gone.
460
00:27:29,915 --> 00:27:31,348
He's escaped."
461
00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:41,592
On new year's Eve 1977,
462
00:27:41,594 --> 00:27:44,728
while serving a sentence
for attempted kidnapping
463
00:27:44,730 --> 00:27:47,698
and awaiting trial for
the murder of caryn Campbell,
464
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,935
Ted Bundy escapes from
his jail cell in Colorado.
465
00:27:57,709 --> 00:28:01,745
I called several people
that I knew that knew Ted Bundy
466
00:28:01,747 --> 00:28:05,816
and told them that they should
call us right away
467
00:28:05,818 --> 00:28:07,718
if they hear from him,
468
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,254
otherwise, I'd arrest 'em.
469
00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:11,989
I told his mother that.
470
00:28:14,392 --> 00:28:17,861
A nationwide manhunt
is launched,
471
00:28:17,863 --> 00:28:20,431
and Bundy shoots straight
to the top
472
00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:23,300
of the FBI's most wanted list.
473
00:28:23,302 --> 00:28:25,169
Ted Bundy became
a household name.
474
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,775
The media made him a folk hero.
475
00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:35,713
There was something odd
about it.
476
00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:37,915
No one knows where Bundy is,
477
00:28:37,917 --> 00:28:41,685
but detective Bob keppel is sure
about one thing.
478
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,957
I absolutely thought
that he would kill again.
479
00:28:59,170 --> 00:29:02,439
It's been four days
since the fsu murders occurred,
480
00:29:02,441 --> 00:29:03,874
and the mood both on campus
481
00:29:03,876 --> 00:29:06,430
and here in this usually
peaceful city
482
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:07,778
is still one of apprehension.
483
00:29:10,215 --> 00:29:12,316
The earmarks were there
484
00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:16,153
that Ted Bundy
was very likely the offender.
485
00:29:16,155 --> 00:29:18,489
The deadly attacks
on young women
486
00:29:18,491 --> 00:29:20,390
in the university sorority house
487
00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:23,961
displays a new level
of bloodthirsty recklessness.
488
00:29:23,963 --> 00:29:27,631
Four weeks later,
he strikes again.
489
00:29:27,633 --> 00:29:30,501
Only this time,
his victim is much younger
490
00:29:30,503 --> 00:29:34,471
than his usual targets --
491
00:29:34,473 --> 00:29:38,275
12-year-old schoolgirl
Kimberly leach.
492
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:42,179
That frightened
a large number of people.
493
00:29:42,181 --> 00:29:45,149
Ted Bundy --
He was in such a frenzy
494
00:29:45,151 --> 00:29:48,252
because he had not killed
for so long,
495
00:29:48,254 --> 00:29:50,420
so whatever it was inside him
496
00:29:50,422 --> 00:29:53,490
was just building up
and building up and building up.
497
00:29:57,262 --> 00:30:00,300
One week later,
in pensacola, Florida,
498
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,767
police pull over a car
with stolen plates.
499
00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:07,504
The driver -- Ted Bundy.
500
00:30:09,174 --> 00:30:11,441
It's an incredibly lucky break.
501
00:30:14,612 --> 00:30:18,549
Bundy is arrested and put on
trial for the Florida murders.
502
00:30:18,551 --> 00:30:21,180
Theodore Robert Bundy.
503
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,253
Armed with eyewitness reports
504
00:30:23,255 --> 00:30:24,922
and physical evidence tying him
505
00:30:24,924 --> 00:30:27,157
to the sorority-house
crime scene,
506
00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:29,359
the prosecution's case is
strong.
507
00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:31,562
She had been beaten severely.
508
00:30:31,564 --> 00:30:35,566
At trial,
Bundy denies the allegations,
509
00:30:35,568 --> 00:30:37,534
and ever the public showman,
510
00:30:37,536 --> 00:30:41,238
the former law student
even acts as his own attorney.
511
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,543
You watch Bundy's
behavior throughout that trial,
512
00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:48,545
and he was
really enjoying himself.
513
00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:51,982
Don't shake your finger
at me, young man.
514
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,454
The sentence of this court --
That you, Theodore Robert Bundy,
515
00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,690
be adjudicated guilty of murder
in the first degree.
516
00:30:59,692 --> 00:31:03,600
In July 1979, Bundy is convicted
517
00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:06,630
on three counts
of first-degree murder,
518
00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:07,931
three counts
of attempted murder,
519
00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,833
and two counts of burglary.
520
00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:14,605
A majority of the jury advises
and recommends to the court
521
00:31:14,607 --> 00:31:17,740
that it impose the death penalty
upon the defendant,
522
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,108
Theodore Robert Bundy.
523
00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:24,248
Do you understand?
524
00:31:26,284 --> 00:31:28,318
Though Bundy receives
the death sentence
525
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,320
for the Florida slayings,
526
00:31:30,322 --> 00:31:32,789
there are dozens more
unsolved murders,
527
00:31:32,791 --> 00:31:35,580
including eight
in Washington state
528
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,761
that detectives
keppel, Dunn, and mcchesney
529
00:31:37,763 --> 00:31:40,797
believe Bundy committed.
530
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:44,100
We felt disappointed
that we weren't able
531
00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:46,904
to get justice
for those victims' families
532
00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:48,705
in Washington state.
533
00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:52,943
I know he murdered Denise,
534
00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:57,140
and I-i hate him.
535
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,840
Oh, I was convinced
he was the right one.
536
00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:04,888
All I knew was
I just needed evidence.
537
00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:12,930
10 years later,
as his execution draws near,
538
00:32:12,932 --> 00:32:16,900
Ted Bundy asked to meet
with Bob keppel face-to-face.
539
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,321
Hello, Bob.
540
00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:40,824
Diabolical genius,
deceptive, manipulative --
541
00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:43,593
Words authorities used
to describe Theodore Bundy.
542
00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:46,863
The authorities also say Bundy's
trying to head off execution
543
00:32:46,865 --> 00:32:49,833
by confessing to some
of the murders he's suspected of
544
00:32:49,835 --> 00:32:52,169
and by hinting
that he'll provide details
545
00:32:52,171 --> 00:32:53,270
about the other killings.
546
00:32:56,341 --> 00:33:01,979
I expected maybe he would
stall things out, but no.
547
00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:03,714
He wanted to talk about murder.
548
00:33:03,716 --> 00:33:09,353
What did you want to tell me?
549
00:33:09,355 --> 00:33:12,956
Now, 26 years later,
Bob keppel listens
550
00:33:12,958 --> 00:33:16,793
to 1989 audio recordings
of his confrontation
551
00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:19,596
with the monster
that is Ted Bundy.
552
00:33:30,241 --> 00:33:31,775
The "why" didn't matter
553
00:33:31,777 --> 00:33:35,450
because the "why"
never catches anybody.
554
00:33:43,888 --> 00:33:48,692
Keppel questions Bundy
about the unidentified victim
555
00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:51,628
found at
the issaquah crime scene.
556
00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:53,530
The name Bundy gives
557
00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:57,734
is one keppel has suspected
for over a decade.
558
00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,875
But her name is not enough.
559
00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:07,144
Keppel needs more proof.
560
00:35:01,632 --> 00:35:04,670
But the way
he disposed of the body
561
00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:06,403
is even more horrifying.
562
00:35:20,485 --> 00:35:23,787
I just had to take it
with a straight face.
563
00:35:23,789 --> 00:35:25,956
I'm thinking
about the next question.
564
00:35:33,164 --> 00:35:37,534
He did
what you call murder-rape.
565
00:35:37,536 --> 00:35:41,738
Most people do rape-murder.
566
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,274
But he's different.
567
00:35:44,276 --> 00:35:49,646
I think he actually enjoyed
people who were dead.
568
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:52,549
As the only victim
of his original eight
569
00:35:52,551 --> 00:35:54,451
unaccounted for,
570
00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:58,722
keppel fears Donna manson
suffered the same cruel fate.
571
00:36:04,595 --> 00:36:07,330
You're not gonna find her head.
572
00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:10,300
Why not? Where is it?
573
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:21,770
As his execution draws near,
574
00:36:21,790 --> 00:36:23,480
notorious serial killer
Ted Bundy
575
00:36:23,482 --> 00:36:26,583
agrees to confess his crimes
to Bob keppel,
576
00:36:26,585 --> 00:36:30,487
the detective who spent
four years hunting him.
577
00:36:39,565 --> 00:36:42,666
What happened to Donna manson?
578
00:36:42,668 --> 00:36:45,101
What did you do with her?
579
00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:49,639
You're not gonna find her head.
580
00:36:50,675 --> 00:36:52,442
Why not? Where is it?
581
00:36:53,744 --> 00:36:55,645
In Liz's fireplace.
582
00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:07,457
Mm-hmm.
583
00:37:24,542 --> 00:37:26,276
Don't know.
584
00:37:26,278 --> 00:37:30,413
Maybe he's doing it
to elicit some sort of response
585
00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:34,551
that is about him
and maybe gives him
586
00:37:34,553 --> 00:37:38,540
continued control
until the end of his life.
587
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,993
Everything Ted Bundy did
was a game -- everything.
588
00:37:42,995 --> 00:37:46,596
You could ask
any medical examiner
589
00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:53,169
if it's possible to do
what he did with that skull.
590
00:37:53,171 --> 00:37:55,839
Burn it all the way up?
591
00:37:55,841 --> 00:37:57,841
I doubt it.
592
00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:03,213
Though Bundy may be exaggerating
593
00:38:03,215 --> 00:38:05,615
details of his heinous crimes,
594
00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:07,651
keppel has what he needs.
595
00:38:07,653 --> 00:38:11,888
He admitted to the eight murders
in Washington state.
596
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:15,859
Still, Bundy has
one final surprise in store.
597
00:38:15,861 --> 00:38:18,995
How many did you kill
in the northwest?
598
00:38:21,932 --> 00:38:23,433
11.
599
00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:29,205
11?
600
00:38:29,207 --> 00:38:30,674
Well, I got eight.
601
00:38:30,676 --> 00:38:34,210
The problem is
that we didn't know
602
00:38:34,212 --> 00:38:36,946
which three he was adding up
603
00:38:36,948 --> 00:38:41,718
because we hadn't found
any missing person cases,
604
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,288
and we definitely had not found
any bodies.
605
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:47,357
Who were the others
in Washington?!
606
00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:48,692
What were their names?!
607
00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:49,726
Give me more!
608
00:38:52,596 --> 00:38:55,298
The conversation was now over.
609
00:38:58,235 --> 00:38:59,755
You just signed
your own death warrant.
610
00:39:01,405 --> 00:39:06,409
He didn't give enough to me
for me to speak on his behalf
611
00:39:06,411 --> 00:39:08,440
to the governor of Florida.
612
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:09,846
The games are over.
613
00:39:09,848 --> 00:39:12,282
One of America's worst
serial killers
614
00:39:12,284 --> 00:39:14,751
is finally going to get
the punishment
615
00:39:14,753 --> 00:39:17,153
many believe he deserves.
616
00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:20,423
I would love to see him being
drug to the electric chair.
617
00:39:20,425 --> 00:39:26,663
Now, that may sound cruel,
but that's exactly how I feel.
618
00:39:28,165 --> 00:39:31,134
Now, in January of 1989,
619
00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:34,304
15 years
after Bundy started killing,
620
00:39:34,306 --> 00:39:36,473
keppel finally closes the case.
621
00:39:44,949 --> 00:39:47,150
He will never know
whether there were
622
00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:50,220
another three victims
in Washington,
623
00:39:50,222 --> 00:39:53,656
but his close encounter
with Ted Bundy
624
00:39:53,658 --> 00:39:56,920
leaves a lasting impression.
625
00:39:56,940 --> 00:39:58,528
Bob was just shaken.
626
00:39:58,530 --> 00:40:02,298
He said,
"I think I witnessed the devil."
627
00:40:06,604 --> 00:40:09,472
Bundy's execution was the 20th
in the state of Florida
628
00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:11,641
since the death penalty
was reinstated.
629
00:40:11,643 --> 00:40:14,477
Normally, a state execution
is met with a storm of protest,
630
00:40:14,479 --> 00:40:16,413
but as channel 7's Joan lovett
reports
631
00:40:16,415 --> 00:40:18,948
Bundy received little sympathy.
632
00:40:20,385 --> 00:40:23,720
In the early hours
of January 24, 1989,
633
00:40:23,722 --> 00:40:28,240
Ted Bundy is executed
by the state of Florida.
634
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:31,861
Outside the prison,
thousands rejoice.
635
00:40:31,863 --> 00:40:34,597
Bob keppel isn't one of them.
636
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:40,103
I had actually
flown home from Florida,
637
00:40:40,105 --> 00:40:42,172
and I went to bed.
638
00:40:42,174 --> 00:40:45,341
And when I woke up,
he was already dead.
639
00:40:48,513 --> 00:40:51,114
I didn't have any feelings
about it.
640
00:40:51,116 --> 00:40:53,950
That's what his strong suit
has been
641
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:57,821
is that he's been able to look
at terrible, terrible things
642
00:40:57,823 --> 00:41:02,892
and back off and look at it from
the role of the investigator.
643
00:41:02,894 --> 00:41:06,290
Otherwise, I don't think
he could do his job.
644
00:41:06,310 --> 00:41:08,364
The Ted Bundy investigation
645
00:41:08,366 --> 00:41:11,935
is Bob keppel's second
as a homicide detective,
646
00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:15,104
but it's the first
of 50 serial-killer cases
647
00:41:15,106 --> 00:41:19,309
with which he will be involved
over the course of his career.
648
00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:24,113
The lessons that I'd learned
in that case
649
00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:28,551
helped me with every other case
that I ever had to investigate.
650
00:41:28,553 --> 00:41:31,554
Kathleen mcchesney
went on to become
651
00:41:31,556 --> 00:41:35,325
an executive assistant director
at the FBI.
652
00:41:35,327 --> 00:41:37,293
She gives much credit
for her achievements
653
00:41:37,295 --> 00:41:39,863
to her early mentors
who took a chance
654
00:41:39,865 --> 00:41:43,399
on a young,
ambitious female detective.
655
00:41:43,401 --> 00:41:45,535
From Bob keppel and Roger Dunn,
656
00:41:45,537 --> 00:41:50,306
I learned you could have
an impact on society.
657
00:41:50,308 --> 00:41:53,343
You could have an impact
on somebody's life.
658
00:41:53,345 --> 00:41:55,311
And that's a real treasure --
659
00:41:55,313 --> 00:41:58,948
A real gift to be able
to do that.
660
00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:01,518
Having helped convict
and imprison
661
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,854
one of America's most notorious
serial killers,
662
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:08,358
Bob keppel doesn't mince
his words.
663
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,394
I could tell you how I teared up
664
00:42:11,396 --> 00:42:13,963
and I felt really good
and all that stuff.
665
00:42:13,965 --> 00:42:15,298
That's not true.
666
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,500
None of that happened.
667
00:42:17,502 --> 00:42:23,172
I was in the business
of dealing with killers.
668
00:42:23,174 --> 00:42:26,843
That's all it was.
669
00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:28,211
No more.
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