All language subtitles for The.Disappearance.of.Madeleine.McCann.S01E06.1080p.WEB.X264-AMRAP

There was a sighting of
the family up in the Atlas Mountains,

this mother carrying on her back a child,
a blonde child,

that absolutely looked like Madeleine.

A couple from Spain
was on vacation in Morocco

when they snapped the photo.

Clara Torres says
she's been kicking herself

for not turning it over to police sooner.

I got a call from my father
and he said he'd like to meet me.

So I went to the house
and met up with him in his study.

If I even went into that office,
it was 'cause I'd done something wrong

or, you know,
something good was happening.

He sat me down.
He said, "Son, have a seat."

He broke the news that he'd like me

to come out of
what I was doing in the business

and throw myself 100% at helping
in whatever way my father and I could.

I wanted to follow my dad and help my dad
and help Kate and Gerry.

We flew into Morocco

on my little... little jet,

myself and my son Patrick.

The adrenaline was pumping
because we've got a girl here

who we believe could be Madeleine,

as it looked almost identical to her.

I said to my son,
"Go out and just try

and find someone that can speak English

that we can hire to drive this car
and take us up into the Atlas Mountains."

I remember saying to my father,
"Look, I've got no experience

in, you know, investigative work
or anything."

I was, like, a bit nervous.

I spoke to someone
and I was just straight with him.

I told him what I was doing. I said,
"Look, we'll give you some money.

We need you to help us.
We need you to try and find this girl."

And so we jumped in the car and
drove right up into the Atlas Mountains.

The thing that shocked me,
in the middle of these mountains,

in the middle of Morocco,

was the amount of blonde-haired kids.

So after a few hours of literally
just driving around and talking to people,

we ended up tracking down
this little family.

We were sitting looking
at this lady carrying this child,

which was the photograph
that this tourist had taken.

I took a picture
and I sent the picture back to Kate

and I said, "Kate, I'm sorry.
It's not Madeleine."

The way I used to put it,

"We're searching for a needle
in a haystack that may not exist."

So it's tough.

It was very clear we weren't
getting anywhere very fast,

so I thought we need to go out
and find some top quality people

that knew how to do this
competently and effectively.

So I met Método 3.

They're a privately-owned
private investigation company,

not frightened to step over the line
and do what had to be done

to try and find Madeleine,

and, uh, I said, "Go for it.

Delve into what you know
you can delve into

below the surface of what's going on
and the criminal factions in that area,

in Portugal, in Spain, and in Morocco.

Find out what you possibly can."

And they went about it, I have to say,
with great gusto.

Perhaps you should never judge
a book by its cover.

We're taught that from an early age.

He looked gaunt and wild-eyed.

I had always had a thing
for investigations.

When I was really young,
I loved police movies,

James Bond movies.

But from where I came,
it was not easy to get into,

so it took me quite a while.

I had been in Método 3
around a year and a half

when the Madeleine case came in.

The reputation of the agency
was really high.

Really high.

It was one of the most known companies
in Spain and Europe.

We had a big meeting
in Brian Kennedy's office.

That's the first time
I met Gerry and Kate.

I was talking about
the different possibilities

of what could have happened that day,

and of course I had to
talk about the possibility

of an organised group of criminals
that could have kidnapped Madeleine.

And Brian Kennedy
at that moment told me,

"Please, we have to stop for a moment,"

and I saw Kate and Gerry,
they were crying.

At that moment, I realised that of course

they have nothing to do
with the disappearance of her daughter.

When you meet the persons,
it becomes personal for you.

From that moment, I left for Portugal

and I spent almost eight months
non-stop out there

and trying to search for any clues.

The Spanish
detective agency hired by the McCanns

has 20-25 people currently
working on the ground in Portugal.

I remember that he caught me
with a camera

and I was trying not to show my face.

Despite one of the investigators

trying to avoid the cameras,

the man, who is around 30
and working for the McCanns,

hasn't gone unnoticed.

The first thing that Método 3 did
was creating a hotline

to try to obtain leads.

It has been very emotional watching them
at the interview this morning.

I think this is to promote
the hotline that they've set up.

Tell us about
why they were there doing the interview.

There was a very simple reason
for doing this interview.

It was done at the advice... on the advice
of our private investigators,

who are now working on the ground
in Spain.

They want people to call this new
anonymous, confidential helpline.

Let's hear what they had to say

about what they're hoping
will come out of starting the hotline.

Please help us.

Please help us as a family.
Please help us find Madeleine.

I strongly believe
that Madeleine is out there.

I don't believe Madeleine
has been taken away from us permanently.

I don't believe that. I don't feel it.

Please, if you know any information at all

or you suspect anything,
no matter how small,

please...

you know, just...

find it in yourself, really.

Have that courage to make that call
to the new number.

Thank you.

You did a really good job
in getting Kate's true personality out.

I think that was good.

I think now we need to get on
with finding her, you know?

You have to understand,

the investigation in Portugal
was not focused in finding Madeleine.

It was focused on finding evidence
to blame the parents of Madeleine.

So people that could have an idea,
who have seen something,

they were not interviewed.

Yes, hello?

Who am I speaking to?

You're speaking to Julián.

They forward the calls to
my personal number 24 hours.

I was taking phone calls at
five in the morning, six in the morning.

I'm calling you from Zambia.

Good morning.
Is this the Madeleine hotline?

I live in Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire.

There was a lot of tips of people
that thought that they saw her.

"I was in a supermarket and I saw a car

and I think I saw Madeleine."

My wife and I
were returning from France

and I saw a man, a young man,

and he's carrying a little girl

and I thought,
"Well, that child looks like Madeleine,"

but then for all I know,
hundreds of children might resemble her.

You have to understand, in these cases,

people usually want to help, of course,

and they want to help so hard
that they start seeing things

that are not there.

I'm actually...
I'm a clairvoyant from Scotland

and I've actually helped police before...

For 25 years, I've been
seeing things before they happen.

The problem is that of course 95%
of the people that call were mediums.

I saw a picture of Madeleine.

She was being looked after
by somebody called Lisa.

I've seen crazy, crazy things,

people moving a pendulum in front of me

and I was over there sitting
and I was like,

"What the hell am I doing here?"
But, like, who knows?

I am asking
for your help to find Madeleine.

If you have any information, get in touch
and you will be compensated.

Thank you.

Even if somebody says they've had

some sort of metaphysical revelation,

you can't discount anybody or anything.

You may not believe in such things,

but you don't know what's behind it.

You could sleep more easily at night.

There must be nothing worse than thinking,

"That may be Madeleine
and nobody's checking it out."

To give a notion
of the sheer avalanche

of sightings of
the missing Madeleine McCann,

there have been thousands and thousands
of reports from 42 countries.

Possible sightings
of Madeleine McCann...

a girl matching
the four-year-old's description...

And on one day alone,

she had been seen in places
2,500 miles apart.

There were multiple reports,
even on the day that she disappeared.

I remember that in one day,

the child had been seen in Zurich,

then in Rio de Janeiro

or in other places, in Morocco.

A lot of information,
a lot of it contradictory.

Jane Tanner was a friend
of Kate and Gerry's.

She dined with them in the evenings.

Her sighting was
a big turning point for the investigation.

For Jane to have seen somebody,

I think it was 20 past 9:00 or something,

walking across the street with a child
that looked like Madeleine

for me was the prime evidence.

That was the only bit of evidence we had,

the only true witness.

I think the starters
were about to arrive

so I thought, "I'll go and do...
I'll go and do a check."

It had been sort of 20 minutes or so
before we'd last checked.

I just walked out of the restaurant.

At the top of the road,
I just saw somebody

walking across the top of the road

and that person was carrying a child,

carrying sort of
across the body like that.

I suppose, in hindsight,
you'd probably think

somebody would carry them
more against the shoulder.

I think it's important
that people know what I saw

because, you know,
I believe Madeleine was abducted.

I think up until then,

there'd been some ridiculous drawings done
by the Portuguese police.

It made sense to find somebody
who knew what they were doing

to draw a proper picture.

So we did some investigations
and found this FBI artist.

I trained as a portrait painter.

A portrait must reveal more than
the outside geography of a person.

You want somehow to catch that spark,

something of their personality
and character.

So I bring that to inform the work
I try to do to help the police.

Jane came and spent the day here

and, uh...

many tears were shed
by both of us that day.

It's all about the attitude of this man,

quickly, purposefully marching forward,

carrying this...

limp child.

There are two little... dear little legs,
child's legs

hanging down over his arm,

um,

wearing pink, frilly, patterned,
floral pattern pyjamas

and two little bare feet hanging down.

She was convinced
that this was Madeleine's abduction.

And...

she was blaming herself, of course.

Why didn't she intervene?

Jane struggled and struggled,

but eventually had to give up.

She could not remember the... the...

the actual face.
That was the stumbling block.

It's a private horror
in their heads.

When they have
unburdened themselves of this,

they've told me and I've made it visible,

it's a great relief.

Um...

It's... That's it. It's out on paper.

That is the evidence.

We thought this was
who had taken Madeleine

so we thought, "Well,
let's get this character out there,"

and we got that picture distributed,
as far as we could.

Kate and Gerry McCann
have broken their silence...

The parents of Madeleine McCann
have released an artist's impression

of a man they believe may have
abducted their daughter.

A friend vacationing
with the family in Portugal

says she saw this man carrying a child
the night Madeleine disappeared,

but didn't see his face.

Private investigators in Portugal
are illegal.

Being a private investigator, you don't
have to follow the book of rules.

It gives you more freedom to investigate
than being a cop.

I had always a big board,

uh, where I wrote all my suspects.

It was a lot of people, I recall.

Julián was very good
to work with.

I'd be out there for weeks at a time,

following possible suspects.

Julián was someone that
was very thorough and very energetic

and he was unforgiving
with certain things.

When we were pursuing people,

he would rather speed
to chase up with them

so he could find out where they were going
rather than be careful.

And to watch what he's doing
'cause he doesn't want to get stopped.

He was the type that would go all out.

Patrick Kennedy,
he was a young kid at that time.

We spent hours together,

doing some stakeouts, surveillance.

He was a quick learner, yeah.

We found out names and addresses

of paedophiles in the Praia da Luz area.
We'd follow them.

We weren't allowed to do that.

We needed the permission of the police
to do that,

but, you know, quite frankly,

I didn't care and neither did M3.
We just wanted to get on with it.

There was several places
that we went that were crazy.

One of the sightings that they told me

was that Madeleine McCann
was in an abandoned home.

I was walking

and looking everywhere,
trying to find something

that related to a little kid,

a doll, clothes, something.

But, no, I couldn't find anything.

Julián and I were following
a guy who lived in a pig farm

and there was something that came through,

saying that they believed
he had something to do

with Madeleine's disappearance.

You're thinking,
"Could Madeleine be in that house?"

It was difficult not to
kick the door down and have a look.

Flying over
the apartments from the east

and after a couple of seconds,

the villa where Robert Murat lives
quickly comes into view.

A 33-year-old male
living in the area of the events

was named as a formal suspect.

When I got over there,

the person that we look more into
was Robert Murat.

Everyone was pointing at him.

We didn't know
what the PJ had against him.

We only knew he was arguido

so we thought there has to be
some evidence against this guy.

Hello, mate. You all right?

There's so many people
that had a feeling

that Robert Murat was involved

and I said, "Let's just go and meet him."

I did meet with a gentleman
called Brian Kennedy,

who, uh, was, um, a multimillionaire

who had links with the McCanns.

He was over there to find
the solution to the story

and, um, I assume, believing
that I had something to do with it.

I went out to meet him.

I just had a very pleasant dinner
and had a chat about it

and I was talking to Robert about,
"Look, it must be terrible

to be accused of something
that you weren't involved with."

All the time, of course,
gathering information.

Actually, I think there was
an offer of a job or something

because I couldn't get work.

I couldn't do anything, could I, so...

Literally,
I had no chance of doing anything.

"Would you like to work with us
and helping us find Madeleine?"

I then found out that
he had tried to bug the meeting

with people in the garden
trying to record the conversations.

We put some trackers on Murat's car

and he found them.

Sometimes you have to do
things that...

that are on the verge
or on the border, no?

So he wasn't there to help me at all,

and that was the really frustrating part
of all of this case, is we had nobody.

Related to Murat was Malinka,
Sergey Malinka.

Pictures of Malinka.

That's his building.

That's the shop that he work.

Malinka was suspected by the police,

but they don't have enough evidence
to declare him an arguido.

He was a computer technician
living in Praia da Luz.

A Russian.

I've been coming here
as often as I could

because it's quite a special place.

It sort of leaves you alone
with your thoughts.

Whatever you see after the black mountain
there is Praia da Luz itself.

It's a very beautiful village

and it always will be
my first home in Portugal.

But this is a place
where I got hurt quite badly.

Sergey Malinka,
a 22-year-old Russian.

He is the latest person
to be talking to police...

We have a strictly customer relationship.

But it's not the place
that hurt me.

It's the people.

The Correio
da Manhã newspaper reports

that the computers
apprehended from Sergey Malinka

had their hard drives erased.

It was almost impossible
to live a normal life

after I was interviewed by the police
because wherever I go,

I would be looked at.

For example, you go into the coffee shop
and you order a coffee.

Then you just look around

and you see people looking at you

and then they'll look away
and then something clicks in

and look back at you again,
but with a judging look, so to speak.

"This is the guy that we saw."

The active suspect makes
a phone call to somebody

exactly the night of the disappearance.
Of course, it raises suspicion.

Actually, this is my room, that balcony
where my room were at the time.

I've been called paedophile,
I've been called sexual predator,

I've been called Russian Mafia,
human trafficker.

It was just... just bang out of order.

What particularly do you want
to set the record straight on?

First of all, I'm not 30 years old, uh...

Second, I don't rape little kids.

Uh, I'm a normal man.
I don't do any of this kind of stuff.

Third, my criminal record
has been clean always.

Uh, I'm a resident of this country

so they would have checked it
before they would give me a card.

Uh, and I simply feel hurt by media,
the way they describe me.

There was no doubt in my mind
Sergey Malinka was hiding something.

He's strange,
he's been destroying hard drives,

he knows Robert Murat.

I think that came up from
some sort of a leak from the police,

media leaks, that my hard drives
have been erased,

but apparently police
found something on them

so they couldn't have been erased.
I couldn't have erased them.

These sort of facts
should be checked

and double-checked and triple-checked
before they're published.

He wasn't a very savoury-looking
character, to put it lightly.

Perhaps you should never
judge a book by its cover.

We're all taught that from an early age.

But sometimes you do.

My first experience
of private surveillance

was when I saw the same cars
has been in my rearview mirrors.

I made a list of certain number plates

and, yeah, I find out the same cars
were following me.

We were chasing him 'cause it looked like
he was trying to get somewhere in a rush.

Sergey Malinka was not
the type to confront us.

He was the type to get in his car
and speed off.

Was he getting up to no good?

Was he meeting people that we perhaps
have pursued? What was he doing?

What was the surveillance
that you did on him?

How did you approach the investigation?
Can you reveal that?

Well, there's a lot of things
I cannot reveal for what we did!

My boss, he told me to call him
and to offer him money

to talk about the disappearance
of Madeleine McCann.

In this sort of situation,
you understand

that there's two types of people.

One with power and one without.

Or should I say one with money
and one without.

I think it's this...

I think it was here. Yeah.

Exactly here in the place of this car.

In this situation, I didn't have
neither the power nor the money.

It was written here on the pavement.

If you can see,
still some red smudges here.

Ten years pass, but it's here, you know?

I started with 100,000 and I went
till half a million, something like that.

And Malinka was, "Don't offer me money

because I don't know anything
and I cannot give you anything."

That's what he told me.

Fala means "speak" in Portuguese.

They thought I'm hiding something.

I know if you look at it,
it's just a car, it doesn't mean anything,

but for a young guy
who always dreamed about this car,

it was sort of the greatest achievement

I've done in my life,
you know what I mean?

So I'm sitting on the stairs,
actually crying, and...

This one missed phone call...

it has pretty much ruined
ten years of my life.

That's the only time when
they actually broke me in this case.

Really, really hurt me.

We did a thorough investigation on him.

But, um, the more that we look into it,

the less I thought he was involved.

Neither Malinka, neither Murat,

I don't think they had
nothing to do with it.

Nothing.

No, I didn't feel sorry
for anybody at that time. Irrelevant.

What was very relevant was the little girl
that was missing,

the little girl who'd been abducted.

That's the person that I felt sorry for.
Nobody else.

Portugal, it was
a new place for me.

I didn't have my resources
that I have in Spain.

I tried to get in touch with people
that could give me

some idea, clues of things
that had happened there

because you have to also, of course,
look at the background of the police,

of the situation,
of any crimes related to that

or how that place works.

A good source for that, it's journalists.

In Portugal, we just have a comparison
with this case.

This case is the case Joana

that happened in 2004 here in Portugal,
here in Algarve...

Joana Cipriano was a little girl

that disappeared in a very small town
next to Praia da Luz.

A little eight-year-old
girl from the village of Figueira

has been missing since Sunday night.

According to the mother,
Joana had left home

to buy some food at the local shop.

We thought the case
was interesting and very mysterious.

She lived with her mother

as well as her uncle at the time.

The mom was doing interviews
for Portuguese TV channels,

saying she didn't know
where her daughter was

and that she'd probably been kidnapped.

The police have been searching,

but they don't have any leads
for the whereabouts of her.

After a week or so,

Polícia Judiciária,
they close, basically, the case

and they said that it was Joana's uncle
who had killed the girl

with the help of Joana's mother.

The immediate story that the mother
and the uncle said to the police

was that she went out
and she didn't come back.

It was their story.

João decided,
"I'm going to tell you the truth

and Joana entered in our house

and saw me having sex with my sister."

And that they, uh, chop her up,

they cut her in pieces,

and they put it in a fridge.

And he explained cut by cut.

They separate the arms,
the legs, and the head,

six parts of the body.

Then he explain, "We put in bags,"

and they have put bags in the fridge.

They have a little fridge in the room.

And we have found human blood
in the fridge.

It was impossible to... to say
that it was blood of Joana.

But it was human blood.

The case took
a horrific turn when João told of how

he disposed of his niece's body
by throwing it into a pigpen.

They were both found guilty.

Leonor was sentenced to 20 years in prison

and João to 19 years.

There's a picture that
came through of the mother

after she... she... had "confessed."

Uh, she was all beaten up, all beat up.

She accused the police of torturing her

so she would confess to the crime.

Both confessions seemed very strange.

So we suspected that things didn't add up.

The police chief that was in charge of
that investigation was Gonçalo Amaral.

The same one that was in charge
of the Madeleine case.

You have to understand,
the police in Portugal

is very different than
the police we have in Spain

or the police that we have
in other European countries.

Very, very different.

The inspectors
will be questioned about these photos...

Five Polícia
Judiciária inspectors are accused

of assaulting Joana's mother
Leonor Cipriano.

The little girl was killed in the Algarve
in September of 2004.

She has mask like Zorro, okay? A mask.

And you look for that, "Oh, poor..."

They were beating her on her eye.

That didn't happen, okay?
She has an accident.

Joana's mother maintains she
was assaulted during her interrogation,

but the inspectors claim
that she fell down the stairs.

What I found was like
the Spanish police of the '70s.

He acted and he worked like
if was the sheriff of the town.

"This is my town. I do whatever I want."

Both João and Leonor,

all they did at the time was
lie, lie, lie.

These bruises,
these black marks are interesting.

No one managed to prove
that these photos are real.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION:

do you think that many people
from this country

believe that Leonor Cipriano
killed her daughter?

There are very few people, Gonçalo Amaral.
Very few people.

And how could we believe that
a woman with no education,

who was beaten by the Judiciary Police
and this was proved...

No, it wasn't proved.

How would she be that smart...

There was a cloud hanging
over Gonçalo Amaral at the time

that the Madeleine case began.

He was under investigation himself
for his actions

in regard to the Cipriano case
and the actions of some of his colleagues.

It's better that the people
understand one thing.

We were not accused of torturing Leonor.

They said, "Okay, if they don't beat you,

they let someone enter
in the police to beat you."

She was taken from her cell at night.

She was then taken
to the police's facilities

and when she comes back, she's bruised.

And in fact, on the very day
the McCann case broke,

Gonçalo Amaral was himself made
an arguido in the Cipriano case.

Me and two colleagues,

we were absolved.

Gonçalo was condemned.

They say that he has forged a report.

They say that he knew it

that somebody beat her.

For me,

in the case of Joana Cipriano,

I was declared an arguido
for false declarations.

Not for beating her, but for
making false claims about the case.

Oh, you want to talk about that?

Do you know how we got those false claims?
I'll explain it to you.

It was a set-up by the Public Ministry

to constitute me as an arguido
to take me to trial.

But this fact
of being an arguido in one case

and be the coordinator
in an investigation,

it's not incompatible.

Because if it was,

any police officer made an arguido
would have to stop working.

After the trial,
we noticed that evidence

against Joana's mother and uncle

was not strong at all.

Why did you keep taking us
to places where there was no body?

With João, through my investigation,

I had the opportunity to watch the video

of his confession to the police

on how he killed his niece.

If you killed her, you killed her

or did she disappear some other way?

Did you kill her or not?

It's a weird confession

because he contradicts himself
a dozen times.

We rented a fridge exactly like
the one Joana's mother had

where they said they had hidden
parts of her body.

We were able to prove

that the child couldn't fit
in those drawers.

So their statements weren't true.

But you're talking of the fridge
that Joana's mother had in her house

was a small fridge like that

so you're talking about putting an
eight-year-old girl in a fridge like that.

It was unbelievable. It was...

It's relatively... It's impossible.

But Amaral, he has a case
and a kid goes missing,

he puts them in a refrigerator.

Human traces were found in the pigpen.

But again, the results were inconclusive.

No trace of Joana
was found on the farm.

Not a hair,

not a bone, not a tooth.

No trace of DNA.

We started working on the links

between the Joana Cipriano case

and the Madeleine case.

You have a town that was, like,
20 kilometres from Praia da Luz.

And the police,

they do a mess on the evidence.

The two cases were very similar.

No, I didn't see similarities.

The only similarity you can say
is the gender,

the gender of the victim.

In general, in these cases
involving the disappearance of children

the primary suspects are
the guardians of that child.

When they see that they don't have
any lines of investigation

or clues, they blame the parents directly.

It's not a case
about finding Joana.

It's not a case about
finding Madeleine McCann.

It's a case about finding evidence
against the parents.

I remember clearly,

a few days after the disappearance
of Madeleine McCann,

I recall asking myself,

"Knowing the investigators,

will they change the course
of the investigation

from a kidnap to start
accusing the parents?"

And that is exactly what happened.

Before Madeleine disappeared,

before the campaign and the controversy,

Gail Cooper saw someone.

Gail Cooper was a lady who had
had somebody visiting her door

that left her feeling, uh,

very vulnerable and very suspicious.

Because we reported it
to the police back in May,

the 7th of May 2007.

He said he was collecting money
for a local orphanage

in the nearby village of Espiche.

He then went on to say about
a road accident three days earlier

where three British children
had been left orphans

and were now being cared for
in his orphanage.

Mrs Cooper was staying
just a few hundred yards

from the McCanns' apartment.

She saw the same man loitering about
the resort on three separate occasions,

twice on the beach
and once when he called at her villa,

claiming he was collecting...

He was quite emotionless, really,
very cold to look at,

but he was quite agitated,

he was moving from foot to foot
on sort of the balls of his feet

as he was talking.

I thought he was a conman at the time.

One of the detectives went out

and took a statement from her,

and then we got Melissa to draw a picture
of the person that she remembered.

She had been in Praia da Luz
about a week before the McCanns arrived

and it was an odd thing

to have somebody telling you this story
about the orphaned British children.

Why were they going to be in
an orphanage in Portugal, for instance?

Why weren't they immediately brought home

by loving aunts and uncles or somebody?

She later saw this man

striding across the beach

and it struck her that he was lingering,

um, very closely near the creche.

And it just felt quite...
well, creepy, I suppose.

There was just something
that didn't ring true about him.

He looked gaunt, wild-eyed,

his mouth open so that
she could see his... his large teeth,

and the heavy moustache,
the heavy eyebrows, that sort of thing.

It was pretty much across every
Portuguese and English newspaper,

the picture of this guy.

If this man is pretty much anywhere
in the Western world,

we need to find him and find him quickly.

It was shown to Jane Tanner

and Jane Tanner felt
there was an 80% likeness

to the person she saw.

Could we find this man that had
these very distinct looks?

The week before the McCanns arrived
at the Ocean Club,

a family that was staying in
the very apartment they rented

had a similar encounter to Gail Cooper.

The father of the family
met with another charity collector,

this one clean-cut and well spoken,

and not terribly obtrusive or persistent,

but he too was troubled by the fact

that he didn't know anything about
the orphanage being collected for

or where it might be.

And there was more.

On the very day
that Madeleine McCann disappeared,

there were four more incidents
of charity collectors

collecting for an orphanage
in the area of Praia da Luz.

We got in the car
and started driving around,

looking for what could
possibly be an orphanage,

and having consulted various maps
and talking to locals,

we're coming up absolutely negative.

We talked to the foundation
based in the capital, Lisbon,

about whether there had ever been
an orphanage near Praia da Luz

and they said there was nothing like that.

So clearly, those men
were committing some sort of a crime,

a mini deception.

It may just have been a scam to get money.

Maybe that's all they were,

but the indications are
that it may have been more than that.

On one particular occasion,

just before Madeleine disappeared,

a man came to a house in Praia da Luz.

The woman of the house,

who was there with her little girl,

became troubled because the man concerned
was talking to her about orphanages,

but not looking at her.

He was looking off to the side

and she realised that he was actually
staring fixedly at her little girl.

The following day,

the woman was upstairs doing the laundry

and came down the stairs.

There was the man again with her daughter.

And as soon as she came down the stairs,

the man ran away.

Perhaps of particular note in that case,

the child involved was only three,

just like Madeleine.

For me,
there was two lines of investigation.

Only two.

There was a single lone wolf

that could have entered, taken Madeleine,

and... who knows?

And the organised
group of criminals.

The window of opportunity,

it's so small,

so small for one person to take her.

Surveillance on the apartment was easy.

They knew their itineraries,

when they were getting up,
when they were getting back.

They acted on the perfect moment
to get inside,

take her, and leave,
without even leaving a trace.

It gives you the idea that
it was a well-organised group.

I went to jail to see João Cipriano,

the uncle of Joana.

So we asked him about Madeleine,
if he knew anything.

But, um, he didn't give us
any kind of information.

I exchanged some letters
with João in Carregueira Prison.

"It was my sister Leonor
who told me Joana was fine."

We knew that his cellmate
was, uh, was out of jail recently

so we thought it was gonna be
a good idea to talk to him.

I know that
he received quite a lot of money

and he has that photo and a few more.

He explained to us
in this recording

that he had seen, um, a picture of Joana

taken after she was kidnapped.

You saw a photo of Joana?

Yes, I did.
He must have her there.

In a room that is very...

a room that is not from somewhere poor.

We believe Joana is alive.

For me, from what I've seen,

I have no doubt.

Basically, Joana was still alive.

"Leonor told me
she had sold her to a foreign couple."

There is no way we can prove
if this is true or not.

All we know is that
Joana is still missing.

The uncle had confessed to him

that, um, that he had a lot of money

and that he had sold the girl.

The uncle was a drug addict. A person
like that can do anything for money.

We were talking about trying
to gain access to that picture,

but, um, after this meeting,

he didn't want to talk to us anymore.

If I knew,
I would have already told the police.

He was afraid of two things.

First, the persons that had Joana.

And, uh, he was also really afraid
of the Portuguese police.

This was the biggest moment
for me of the case

'cause it really give me proof

that there was an organization
working in Portugal,

and it also give us a hope
of trying to find that network, uh...

and after finding the network,
we could find Madeleine.