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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,430 [train horn blows] 2 00:00:06,430 --> 00:00:08,180 [insects chirping] 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,470 ♪ ominous music ♪ 4 00:00:19,470 --> 00:00:21,170 ♪♪♪ 5 00:00:30,050 --> 00:00:32,300 [Teresa] They claim this is the route that Brittney took 6 00:00:32,300 --> 00:00:34,130 the day that Brittney disappeared. 7 00:00:37,390 --> 00:00:40,680 There's a camera at the door right there. 8 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,310 That's the only camera, is right there, 9 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:43,550 that caught my daughter that day. 10 00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:48,390 I'm trying to imagine what Brittney saw 11 00:00:48,390 --> 00:00:50,060 because they said she looked so scared. 12 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:55,260 What she was thinking at that... at that time. 13 00:00:55,260 --> 00:00:57,510 What was going through her mind. 14 00:00:57,510 --> 00:00:59,760 ♪♪♪ 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,670 Seems like either she saw 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,560 something on her way to the dollar store... 17 00:01:04,550 --> 00:01:06,220 or on her way out. 18 00:01:06,220 --> 00:01:08,470 So it was like... [sputters] That was it. 19 00:01:08,470 --> 00:01:10,590 She just vanished in thin air. 20 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:11,840 Gone. 21 00:01:15,930 --> 00:01:17,560 Jennings is just one 22 00:01:17,550 --> 00:01:19,840 crooked-ass town. 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,840 I've never seen a town 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,050 be so incompetent, 25 00:01:29,050 --> 00:01:30,670 pathetic. 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,980 We just want something, 27 00:01:32,970 --> 00:01:35,300 some type of justice. 28 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:38,510 I think law enforcement knows everything. 29 00:01:38,510 --> 00:01:41,510 Law enforcement have a story. 30 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:43,300 [Edwards] We do believe right now, 31 00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:45,260 as far as the investigation goes, 32 00:01:45,260 --> 00:01:48,840 that it is one offender, behaviorally, at this time. 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,760 That is how the "story" is told and believed, 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,470 but I don't believe that for one second. 35 00:01:54,470 --> 00:01:56,800 Let me do tell you, 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,470 there is no serial killer 37 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:03,300 in Jeff Davis Parish. 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,590 There never was. 39 00:02:11,930 --> 00:02:14,140 ♪ somber music ♪ 40 00:02:14,130 --> 00:02:16,130 ♪♪♪ 41 00:02:28,510 --> 00:02:30,260 [insects chirping] 42 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,800 [Ethan] For years, approaching Jennings, 43 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,170 I would get a kind of sick feeling 44 00:02:46,180 --> 00:02:49,230 because, after years 45 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:51,300 of working on the case, 46 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:54,840 everything that I knew from talking to the families, 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,920 about the homicides themselves, 48 00:02:57,930 --> 00:03:02,520 created this weight in my stomach where I'd feel 49 00:03:02,510 --> 00:03:05,260 physically ill. 50 00:03:05,260 --> 00:03:06,590 ♪ intriguing music ♪ 51 00:03:06,590 --> 00:03:08,220 ♪♪♪ 52 00:03:08,220 --> 00:03:11,720 When I began looking at the case in 2011, 53 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,220 the case was very quiet, 54 00:03:14,220 --> 00:03:16,880 all eight of the homicides were unsolved, 55 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:19,520 and there was a lot of apathy in town. 56 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:23,260 The folks in Jennings, in Jeff Davis Parish, 57 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:24,880 generally, early on, 58 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:28,270 had essentially resigned themselves to the idea that 59 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:30,760 this impossible-to-understand case 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,420 with a likely serial killer 61 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:35,230 at the center of it was never going to be solved. 62 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,970 [indistinct chatter] 63 00:03:39,970 --> 00:03:41,880 The relationship 64 00:03:41,890 --> 00:03:44,930 between the town and law enforcement was complex, 65 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:46,480 and I also believed, 66 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:50,260 divided along socioeconomic lines. 67 00:03:51,220 --> 00:03:54,010 On the north side of town, 68 00:03:54,010 --> 00:03:58,090 where you had more middle-class and upper middle-class folks, 69 00:03:58,090 --> 00:04:00,260 there was a comfort level 70 00:04:00,260 --> 00:04:02,220 with law enforcement that was very high. 71 00:04:02,220 --> 00:04:03,760 You would have people say 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,630 th-things like, "They're doing their best." 73 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,270 You know, "God bless them. 74 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:10,300 They're trying. They're out there. 75 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:12,550 What else can they do? It's a small town." 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,050 On the south side, what I began to hear 77 00:04:17,050 --> 00:04:19,760 was murmurings of 78 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,720 law enforcement misconduct 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,470 or perhaps something far worse. 80 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:29,630 [Scott] Early in the summer of 2007, 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,730 the Jennings Daily News gets a tip that we need to look into 82 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,630 the chief investigator Warren Gary. 83 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,270 That there was an issue with him 84 00:04:40,260 --> 00:04:43,220 purchasing a truck from an inmate 85 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:46,470 and then selling it to make a profit. 86 00:04:46,470 --> 00:04:50,800 Now, right off the top, there's nothing inherently illegal 87 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,130 in that situation, but what we are told is that 88 00:04:54,130 --> 00:04:57,840 that truck may have been 89 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,420 the crime scene where 90 00:04:59,430 --> 00:05:01,270 Kristen Gary Lopez was murdered. 91 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,340 [reporter] Former Chief Criminal Investigator Warren Gary 92 00:05:06,340 --> 00:05:09,090 found himself under investigation 93 00:05:09,090 --> 00:05:13,050 after he bought a truck from jail inmate Connie Siler 94 00:05:13,050 --> 00:05:15,590 and later sold it for a profit. 95 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:18,010 Some believe that truck may have had a connection 96 00:05:18,010 --> 00:05:20,260 to the death of one of the women. 97 00:05:20,260 --> 00:05:23,760 Numerous witnesses discussed how Kristen was riding 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,760 in a white Chevy Silverado prior to her death 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,840 with Connie Siler, an associate of Frankie's. 100 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:34,340 Frankie, Frankie's goddaughter Hannah Conner, 101 00:05:34,340 --> 00:05:36,340 and Tracee Chaisson. 102 00:05:36,340 --> 00:05:37,920 [interviewer] What, if anything, do you know about that truck 103 00:05:37,930 --> 00:05:39,850 that Connie Siler sold? 104 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:43,840 I don't know nothing about the truck. All I know is that... 105 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:46,090 it's, um, 106 00:05:46,090 --> 00:05:49,840 that it was sold to a detective. 107 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:52,090 [interviewer] You know anything about anybody's body being put 108 00:05:52,090 --> 00:05:55,590 -in it or anything like that? -Mm-mm. No. I don't. 109 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:59,590 Connie Siler, the owner of the Chevy Silverado 110 00:05:59,590 --> 00:06:03,380 sold the truck for about 7 or $8,000 111 00:06:03,390 --> 00:06:06,060 to a chief investigator of the sheriff's office, 112 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:09,720 Warren Gary, and then Gary resold it 113 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,340 for approximately $15,000. 114 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:16,260 [Scott] This is a potential crime scene, 115 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:18,880 and now it's been sold for profit 116 00:06:18,890 --> 00:06:20,890 and given to a private citizen 117 00:06:20,890 --> 00:06:23,560 and law enforcement didn't want to believe anything 118 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:25,720 was going on wrong with Warren Gary 119 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,170 -and that truck situation. -[Cormier] What I see is that 120 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:31,730 it was an opportunity for somebody to make some money. 121 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,420 Uh, buy a vehicle, sell the vehicle, and make a profit. 122 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:37,270 [Ivey] I don't think Warren Gary 123 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:39,510 had the knowledge at the time that 124 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:42,010 the vehicle would have any evidence in it. 125 00:06:45,220 --> 00:06:47,340 [Chris] Ultimately, he is put 126 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:50,970 before the Louisiana Board of Ethics, and he's fined $10,000, 127 00:06:50,970 --> 00:06:52,920 but he's cleared of any criminal charges, 128 00:06:52,930 --> 00:06:55,180 and actually becomes head of the evidence room 129 00:06:55,180 --> 00:06:57,680 for the sheriff's department, 130 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,930 which just felt like a really bizarre move. 131 00:07:00,930 --> 00:07:05,480 I mean, you have a guy who was just in trouble, 132 00:07:05,470 --> 00:07:07,670 a-and in enough trouble that the state decided 133 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,480 to fine him for it, regarding something 134 00:07:11,470 --> 00:07:13,630 that could be a piece of evidence being sold. 135 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,480 And now he's head of the evidence room. 136 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:21,130 It just felt kind of like a little... 137 00:07:21,130 --> 00:07:22,630 It-it felt like a "fuck you." 138 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,850 "We know that something has to be done, 139 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,760 but this is our investigation. 140 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,720 We're gonna run it how we want to, 141 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,720 and-and we're not gonna let anybody from-from the outside 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,380 influence that in any way, shape or form." 143 00:07:35,340 --> 00:07:38,130 [Ethan] When I looked into the Warren Gary truck sale, 144 00:07:38,130 --> 00:07:42,670 specifically through the D.A.'s file on Kristen, 145 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,060 it became clear 146 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:47,880 that there were enormous 147 00:07:47,890 --> 00:07:50,810 contradictions between 148 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,260 what Sheriff Edwards was saying, 149 00:07:53,260 --> 00:07:56,800 and what was in their own files essentially. 150 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,760 They were seemingly telling outright lies. 151 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,590 And what's even more disturbing about that is 152 00:08:04,590 --> 00:08:08,670 that the falsehoods that were being pedaled 153 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,230 about Warren Gary and the truck 154 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:14,340 are not just about the truck. 155 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:18,630 They're also about Warren Gary's 156 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,310 alleged relationship 157 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:24,050 to one of the main suspects-- 158 00:08:24,050 --> 00:08:25,840 Frankie Richard. 159 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,130 ♪ haunting music ♪ 160 00:08:44,220 --> 00:08:46,090 Several months after Kristen's homicide 161 00:08:46,090 --> 00:08:48,550 in March of 2007, 162 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:51,760 two female inmate witnesses approached 163 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,470 Sergeant Jesse Ewing of the Jennings Police Department 164 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:56,130 with statements about the truck. 165 00:09:52,390 --> 00:09:53,930 [Hannah] What this lady 166 00:09:53,930 --> 00:09:56,180 on this recording is saying is not true. 167 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:57,980 That-that is... 168 00:09:59,890 --> 00:10:03,100 ...insane that this lady 169 00:10:03,090 --> 00:10:06,920 that I don't even know... 170 00:10:06,930 --> 00:10:10,770 thinks that I would just confess something like that to her. 171 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,510 Like, what would I gain from that? 172 00:10:13,510 --> 00:10:15,920 ♪♪♪ 173 00:10:15,930 --> 00:10:19,680 [Ethan] When you listen to the Jesse Ewing tapes, 174 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:23,060 and there are direct and credible allegations 175 00:10:23,050 --> 00:10:25,720 about the involvement 176 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,630 of the sheriff's office chief investigator in the case, 177 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,230 that sense of... 178 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:37,260 well, this is a small-town 179 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:40,840 sheriff's office trying to do their best 180 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,050 and making some mistakes 181 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:46,260 sort of flies out the window. 182 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:48,380 Because Jesse Ewing feared 183 00:10:48,390 --> 00:10:52,270 corruption in Jeff Davis Parish law enforcement, 184 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:54,010 he released these statements 185 00:10:54,010 --> 00:10:56,920 to a private investigator, who sent them on to the FBI. 186 00:10:56,930 --> 00:10:58,810 [Kirk] He didn't feel comfortable 187 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,760 going to anyone locally, not even his superiors. 188 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,340 So he gave it to me, and I delivered it 189 00:11:04,340 --> 00:11:06,470 to the appropriate individuals. 190 00:11:06,470 --> 00:11:08,510 The result of those statements 191 00:11:08,510 --> 00:11:10,510 was not a deepening investigation 192 00:11:10,510 --> 00:11:13,880 of Frankie Richard or Warren Gary, 193 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:17,560 who had already been essentially found guilty of misconduct. 194 00:11:17,550 --> 00:11:22,050 It was a major state police investigation 195 00:11:22,050 --> 00:11:24,380 into Jesse Ewing. 196 00:11:24,390 --> 00:11:27,560 Arrested yesterday by Louisiana State Police, 197 00:11:27,550 --> 00:11:30,510 a veteran of the Jennings Police Department stands accused 198 00:11:30,510 --> 00:11:33,260 of obstruction of justice and malfeasance in office. 199 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:34,720 [newswoman] The charges 200 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,340 Jennings Police Sergeant Jesse Ewing faces 201 00:11:37,340 --> 00:11:39,300 centers around the ongoing investigations 202 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:43,760 of the unsolved murders of four Jeff Davis Parish women. 203 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,880 [Ethan] At the time, the public 204 00:11:46,890 --> 00:11:48,930 was entirely unaware 205 00:11:48,930 --> 00:11:50,890 of the content 206 00:11:50,890 --> 00:11:52,680 of those tapes. 207 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:56,390 All the public knew was that 208 00:11:56,390 --> 00:11:58,930 Jesse Ewing was in trouble 209 00:11:58,930 --> 00:12:02,890 for basically breaking the chain of custody on evidence. 210 00:12:04,590 --> 00:12:08,420 Jesse Ewing then essentially pled out 211 00:12:08,430 --> 00:12:12,180 to a malfeasance in office charge, 212 00:12:12,180 --> 00:12:15,890 and Frankie Richard remained free. 213 00:12:18,260 --> 00:12:20,920 [interviewer] What do you say about whether that truck 214 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:24,270 was involved in the case and whether evidence 215 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:28,090 may have been lost when it was washed or whatever? 216 00:12:28,090 --> 00:12:29,800 [Edwards] I-I would think that there's forensic evidence 217 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,260 found even after vehicles are washed. 218 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:34,130 Uh, it happens all the time. 219 00:12:34,130 --> 00:12:37,260 It's not a guarantee, but I'm not exactly sure 220 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:39,380 how important that truck is. 221 00:12:39,390 --> 00:12:41,310 Nevertheless, 222 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:43,420 Warren was disciplined by the ethics board 223 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:45,310 to the maximum that could be done 224 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,380 and he was taken off the case. 225 00:12:47,390 --> 00:12:49,140 We moved forward. 226 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:56,550 [Ethan] The official narrative of the murders 227 00:12:56,550 --> 00:12:59,840 when I arrived in Jennings was that it was most likely 228 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,920 a single perpetrator, or a serial killer. 229 00:13:03,930 --> 00:13:07,230 But when I began to learn of the misconduct 230 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,880 in the Jeff Davis 8 case, 231 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:13,810 like Warren Gary selling a key piece of evidence, 232 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,760 it seemed to me that 233 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,630 something was going on here that couldn't be, 234 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,180 necessarily, boiled down to a serial killer case. 235 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:31,140 Typically, in a serial killer case, 236 00:13:31,130 --> 00:13:34,420 the victims would not know one another. 237 00:13:34,430 --> 00:13:39,180 In this case, the Jeff Davis 8 had myriad connections. 238 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:42,520 For example, seven of the eight of the women 239 00:13:42,510 --> 00:13:44,470 were connected to Frankie Richard 240 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:47,970 who's been in the Jennings underworld for decades 241 00:13:47,970 --> 00:13:52,550 as a pimp, a drug dealer, a street hustler. 242 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:54,970 They engaged in sex work for him. 243 00:13:56,260 --> 00:13:58,170 When Frankie 244 00:13:58,180 --> 00:14:01,480 and Frankie's niece Hannah had been arrested 245 00:14:01,470 --> 00:14:04,550 and charged, it became a classic 246 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:05,840 "we got 'em" moment 247 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,050 for Ricky Edwards, 248 00:14:08,050 --> 00:14:09,090 the then sheriff. 249 00:14:09,090 --> 00:14:10,970 But the collapse of the case 250 00:14:10,970 --> 00:14:14,340 received little to no coverage. 251 00:14:14,340 --> 00:14:17,670 Frankie and his goddaughter were simply free. 252 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:20,350 [train horn blowing] 253 00:14:20,340 --> 00:14:22,880 Beyond Frankie and Hannah, 254 00:14:22,890 --> 00:14:26,140 there were other credible suspects, and yet, 255 00:14:26,130 --> 00:14:30,760 when other murders occurred, a theory of a single killer 256 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,880 was pushed aggressively. 257 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,050 In one of the cases, Ernestine Patterson, 258 00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:42,220 two men-- Byron Chad Jones and Lawrence Nixon-- 259 00:14:42,220 --> 00:14:46,550 had actually been arrested on second degree murder charges. 260 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:49,090 Those cases fell apart and the charges were dropped. 261 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,850 I think Law Nixon 262 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,090 and Byron Chad Jones killed my daughter. 263 00:14:56,090 --> 00:14:59,170 But Ricky Edwards let them go because there was n-- 264 00:14:59,180 --> 00:15:01,640 because they said they couldn't find no evidence. 265 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,890 And we still don't know what happened. 266 00:15:04,890 --> 00:15:09,310 The D.A.'s office obviously has the-the charging responsibility 267 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:10,880 in every... in the... 268 00:15:10,890 --> 00:15:12,560 They determine who and... 269 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:14,420 to prosecute and when to prosecute. 270 00:15:14,430 --> 00:15:16,020 In that particular case, 271 00:15:16,010 --> 00:15:18,510 the D.A.'s office decided not to prosecute. 272 00:15:18,510 --> 00:15:21,590 The charges were dismissed at that time. 273 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:23,720 [insects chirping] 274 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,130 ♪ slow music ♪ 275 00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:28,130 [Ethan] What I found out about 276 00:15:28,130 --> 00:15:29,970 Ernestine's Patterson's case 277 00:15:29,970 --> 00:15:33,670 from reading her case file was 278 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,270 frustrating and strange and bewildering, 279 00:15:38,260 --> 00:15:40,840 because of the way in which 280 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,590 the investigation was conducted. 281 00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:45,300 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 282 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:47,470 ♪♪♪ 283 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,800 [Ethan] Ernestine Patterson was discovered 284 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,130 on June 18, 2005. 285 00:15:55,130 --> 00:15:57,840 She was unusual because 286 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,840 she was not really in the clique of the women 287 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,050 who surrounded Frankie. 288 00:16:03,050 --> 00:16:05,970 [Evelyn] She wasn't no bad girl. 289 00:16:05,970 --> 00:16:08,380 She was a good child. 290 00:16:08,390 --> 00:16:11,850 She never was in no-no... any trouble with the law or nothing. 291 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,550 And she tried to raise her four kids 292 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:16,760 b-by herself. 293 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,510 We did not know she was doing 294 00:16:18,510 --> 00:16:19,880 the drugs then, 'cause she would come here. 295 00:16:19,890 --> 00:16:21,770 We didn't know she was doing no drugs. 296 00:16:24,890 --> 00:16:27,810 [Ethan] There was a large file 297 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,510 that detailed the witness interviews that were conducted 298 00:16:30,510 --> 00:16:33,720 in this case, and they had not 299 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,340 been scrutinized by the media 300 00:16:36,340 --> 00:16:39,920 or anybody else outside of the police. 301 00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:42,430 The sorts of witness statements 302 00:16:42,430 --> 00:16:44,350 that came in 303 00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:49,130 described something fairly simple. 304 00:16:49,130 --> 00:16:53,220 That Ernestine was out the night of her murder, 305 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:56,720 engaged in sex work in South Jennings, 306 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,970 and that she hooked up with two men-- 307 00:16:59,970 --> 00:17:03,800 Byron Chad Jones and Lawrence Nixon-- 308 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,050 at an abandoned house on a garage alley. 309 00:17:11,050 --> 00:17:13,090 And that she was held down 310 00:17:13,090 --> 00:17:16,220 and stabbed to death. 311 00:17:19,470 --> 00:17:24,300 Nixon's girlfriend, Lucinda Kagy, said that 312 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:27,470 both men appeared at her house 313 00:17:27,470 --> 00:17:30,220 and that she saw firsthand 314 00:17:30,220 --> 00:17:34,630 Lawrence carrying an industrial-size garbage bag. 315 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,930 It seemed to be weighty, that the garbage bag was 316 00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:40,890 laid upon the porch, 317 00:17:40,890 --> 00:17:43,020 had blood coming out of it. 318 00:17:43,010 --> 00:17:45,760 Nixon's then girlfriend sprayed the porch down, 319 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,800 and the bag was then placed 320 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,800 into a white car and driven off. 321 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,760 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 322 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,470 ♪♪♪ 323 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:58,050 One witness told law enforcement 324 00:17:58,050 --> 00:18:02,010 that a jagged-edged hunting knife 325 00:18:02,010 --> 00:18:04,920 was left in an abandoned home 326 00:18:04,930 --> 00:18:07,020 on a garage alley. 327 00:18:07,010 --> 00:18:09,840 It's unclear from the case file 328 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,090 if that tip was followed up on by law enforcement. 329 00:18:14,090 --> 00:18:16,880 And what's even more strange-- 330 00:18:16,890 --> 00:18:19,020 the floorboards on which 331 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:23,130 the bloody garbage bag was placed were not tested 332 00:18:23,130 --> 00:18:25,050 for the presence of blood 333 00:18:25,050 --> 00:18:27,300 until 16 months after the incident, 334 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:29,470 which was too late to be valuable. 335 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:32,670 Unsurprisingly, when they were tested, 336 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,810 no blood was detected on them. 337 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,670 ♪ soft, suspenseful music ♪ 338 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,230 ♪♪♪ 339 00:18:50,890 --> 00:18:53,020 [Cormier] Your ultimate goal 340 00:18:53,010 --> 00:18:54,300 and your best-case scenario would be 341 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,880 to-to test items as quickly as possible, 342 00:18:56,890 --> 00:18:58,770 but, like, sometimes, 343 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,760 you can't control that for different reasons. 344 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,340 And so, you just have to do the best you can with it. 345 00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:06,340 And hopefully, it gets tested. 346 00:19:06,340 --> 00:19:10,510 But I just can't comment on evidence on this case, 347 00:19:10,510 --> 00:19:12,090 because there are open cases, so... 348 00:19:12,090 --> 00:19:14,050 I know there's a lot of information out, 349 00:19:14,050 --> 00:19:17,340 but I prefer not to discuss evidence. 350 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,840 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 351 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,630 ♪♪♪ 352 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,890 [Ethan] We don't know why it took 353 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:28,560 nearly two years to test the floorboards. 354 00:19:28,550 --> 00:19:32,170 We don't know why the jagged-edged hunting knife 355 00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:35,020 wasn't pursued the way it should have been pursued. 356 00:19:35,010 --> 00:19:36,590 And we don't know why, ultimately, 357 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:38,720 a decision was made to drop the case. 358 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,800 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 359 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,720 ♪♪♪ 360 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,380 On the surface, the details 361 00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:49,850 of Ernestine's case are unexpected. 362 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,720 There seemed to be multiple credible suspects, 363 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,380 and even potential forensic evidence, 364 00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:59,270 in contrast to the official police narrative-- 365 00:19:59,260 --> 00:20:01,630 that all eight of these women 366 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,390 were likely the victims of a serial killer. 367 00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:09,390 Which leaves us wondering what the police knew 368 00:20:09,390 --> 00:20:11,730 about Ernestine's potential connection 369 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,220 to the other girls. 370 00:20:15,050 --> 00:20:18,720 So just as Ernestine's murder 371 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,050 is a mystery, 372 00:20:21,050 --> 00:20:23,010 there's also another mystery, 373 00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:26,090 which is the mystery of the investigation itself, 374 00:20:26,090 --> 00:20:29,300 and why the case collapsed. 375 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,260 It's not at all clear. 376 00:20:35,090 --> 00:20:37,470 The women of the Jeff Davis 8 377 00:20:37,470 --> 00:20:41,590 had long criminal histories. 378 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:45,470 These were criminal histories that were not for things 379 00:20:45,470 --> 00:20:47,840 like murder or assault with a firearm. 380 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,010 These are things like drug charges, minor theft, 381 00:20:52,010 --> 00:20:54,760 writing bad checks. 382 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,670 The constant churn 383 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,560 of these women through the criminal legal system 384 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:03,300 put them in constant contact with the men 385 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:07,170 in Jeff Davis Parish law enforcement. 386 00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:10,390 When I interviewed witnesses in this case, 387 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:14,640 or family members... 388 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,520 and when I reviewed police reports 389 00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:20,470 and task force reports, 390 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:24,970 certain names of law enforcement came up repeatedly. 391 00:21:24,970 --> 00:21:26,880 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 392 00:21:26,890 --> 00:21:29,270 ♪♪♪ 393 00:21:29,260 --> 00:21:32,670 [Ethan] When the women of the Jeff Davis 8 were arrested, 394 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,100 they were often held at the Jeff Davis Parish Jail. 395 00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:40,010 And from the early to mid 2000s, 396 00:21:40,010 --> 00:21:42,300 one of the key jailers 397 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,340 at the jail was a man named Danny Barry. 398 00:21:47,890 --> 00:21:50,350 [Richard] Mr. Danny Barry took care of the inmates 399 00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:54,010 up on the third floor of the sheriff's department. 400 00:21:54,010 --> 00:21:55,340 He treated us bad. 401 00:21:55,340 --> 00:21:57,090 Especially those that he knew and saw 402 00:21:57,090 --> 00:21:58,550 on the south side, he would treat you bad. 403 00:21:58,550 --> 00:22:01,760 He would mace you, uh, for no reason. 404 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760 He'd come down the hall and just stick his can of Mace in there, 405 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,550 and he would mace the whole cell, just to be an ass. 406 00:22:07,550 --> 00:22:08,840 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 407 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,130 ♪♪♪ 408 00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:13,010 When I was a free man back then, 409 00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:15,840 and I was doing drugs, 410 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,380 many a nights, we would run the streets of Jennings 411 00:22:17,390 --> 00:22:19,270 on the south side of the tracks. 412 00:22:19,260 --> 00:22:21,340 Well, and Mr. Danny Barry was out there. 413 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:23,670 You'd see him parked on the side streets, 414 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,680 smoking his crack. 415 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,390 ♪♪♪ 416 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,720 [Roxanne] I owned a house on Craig Street, 417 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,760 and it became a-a safe haven 418 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,300 for the girls. 419 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,010 Danny Barry-- he would come to the house, 420 00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:45,880 looking for his wife. 421 00:22:45,890 --> 00:22:49,230 She would come there for us, and get one of the girls to go 422 00:22:49,220 --> 00:22:52,550 visit her home in... in the country where 423 00:22:52,550 --> 00:22:55,090 he lived, but-- where they both lived, 424 00:22:55,090 --> 00:22:57,550 to smoke drugs and have sex. 425 00:22:57,550 --> 00:23:00,470 And that's what it was all about-- 426 00:23:00,470 --> 00:23:02,970 drugs and sex. 427 00:23:02,970 --> 00:23:06,050 ♪♪♪ 428 00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:08,090 [Ethan] He was 429 00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:10,090 seen by numerous witnesses 430 00:23:10,090 --> 00:23:12,300 over the span of several years, 431 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:15,010 picking up sex workers 432 00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:19,470 and taking them back to his trailer outside of Jennings. 433 00:23:19,470 --> 00:23:21,420 ♪♪♪ 434 00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:23,230 Danny Barry would go downtown, 435 00:23:23,220 --> 00:23:27,170 lure the girls in, get 'em high, 436 00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:29,270 bring 'em to his trailer, and they'd have fun. 437 00:23:29,260 --> 00:23:31,840 Sometimes he wouldn't let 'em go. 438 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,550 ♪♪♪ 439 00:23:38,260 --> 00:23:40,510 [Teresa] Danny Barry 440 00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:44,470 had this nice little room in his trailer... 441 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:46,970 lined with Visqueen. 442 00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:49,800 ♪♪♪ 443 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,670 Who in the hell lines their walls and their celling 444 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,640 and their floor with Visqueen for just no reason? 445 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,760 [Ethan] Danny Barry's trailer was well known 446 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,970 to sex workers in Jennings. 447 00:24:01,970 --> 00:24:04,970 It was known as a kind of 448 00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:08,090 sex dungeon with 449 00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:09,970 chains and other materials 450 00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:12,470 that would be associated with a kind of dominant 451 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:16,050 and submissive sexual culture. 452 00:24:16,050 --> 00:24:19,170 This was a trailer well known 453 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:22,390 to sex workers in the area. 454 00:24:24,550 --> 00:24:28,260 On November 2, 2008, Brittney Gary, 455 00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:31,380 who at 17 years old was the youngest 456 00:24:31,390 --> 00:24:33,810 of the Jeff Davis 8, 457 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,510 was at the South Andrew Street drug house 458 00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:39,050 where many of these women 459 00:24:39,050 --> 00:24:42,170 would congregate at and do drugs at 460 00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:43,640 and pick up men at. 461 00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:48,680 And then later, Brittney left 462 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,350 the South Andrew Street home, walked on foot 463 00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:56,670 to the Family Dollar store... 464 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,680 purchased minutes for her cell phone. 465 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,600 She made a brief four-second call to Otis Brown, 466 00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:07,590 Laconia "Muggy" Brown's cousin, 467 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:09,840 asking to be picked up at the Family Dollar. 468 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,630 Otis refused to pick her up. 469 00:25:12,930 --> 00:25:14,810 This was... 470 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,380 the last known communication of Brittney. 471 00:25:21,390 --> 00:25:24,810 At least one witness told law enforcement 472 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,720 that soon afterward, she was seen getting into a vehicle 473 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,550 with Danny Barry. 474 00:25:30,550 --> 00:25:34,050 All of this was discussed with law enforcement, 475 00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:36,880 specifically, task force investigators. 476 00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:38,640 [insects chirring] 477 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:48,170 On or about November 4, 2008... 478 00:25:50,430 --> 00:25:53,930 ...Brittney's body was dumped 479 00:25:53,930 --> 00:25:55,930 off of Keystone Road. 480 00:25:58,220 --> 00:26:00,170 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 481 00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:02,270 ♪♪♪ 482 00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:12,100 The Jeff Davis 8 case, across the board, 483 00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:15,760 is challenged by a lack of physical evidence. 484 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,510 So what you have is witnesses, 485 00:26:20,510 --> 00:26:23,260 witnesses are gonna guide the case. 486 00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:26,470 And task force witnesses 487 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:30,090 repeatedly told its investigators 488 00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:32,420 that they needed to look at Danny Barry 489 00:26:32,430 --> 00:26:35,600 as a suspect in this case. 490 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:37,550 But when Danny Barry 491 00:26:37,550 --> 00:26:39,970 was eventually interviewed by the task force, 492 00:26:39,970 --> 00:26:44,090 it was a remarkably short interview, 493 00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:46,920 lasting somewhere around 15 494 00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:48,730 or 20 minutes in total. 495 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,050 [Ethan] It was an interview 496 00:27:49,050 --> 00:27:51,340 that would have made sense 497 00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:55,840 if they had not received any information at all, 498 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,220 or if the information was vague 499 00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:01,550 or unsubstantiated, 500 00:28:01,550 --> 00:28:03,380 but it was none of those things. 501 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:06,890 It was consistent information 502 00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:09,890 from firsthand witnesses, 503 00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:13,310 placing Danny Barry in South Jennings 504 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,380 picking up sex workers 505 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:18,060 and having direct relationships 506 00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:19,880 with the Jeff Davis 8. 507 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,010 [Richard] Mr. Danny Barry was believed 508 00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:27,630 to be involved in the... 509 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,810 th-the murder of the eight women. 510 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,590 And to this day, it's possible that he is, 511 00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:34,380 but Mr. Danny Barry is dead and gone now. 512 00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:37,770 But that doesn't ex-excuse him 513 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,300 for anything that maybe he done, you know. 514 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:43,550 [Ethan] We may never know 515 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:47,590 what Danny's involvement was in this case. 516 00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:49,760 But Danny was not the only person 517 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,880 from the Jeff Davis Parish Sheriff's Office 518 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:56,430 who was mentioned repeatedly by witnesses. 519 00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:58,850 There was also his boss, 520 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,090 warden of the parish jail, Terrie Guillory. 521 00:29:04,090 --> 00:29:06,130 ♪ ominous music ♪ 522 00:29:06,130 --> 00:29:08,300 ♪♪♪ 523 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:11,630 [Chad] We grew up knowing Terrie Guillory. 524 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,060 Back then, Ivory Guillory, his brother, was on the force. 525 00:29:15,050 --> 00:29:19,590 So them two was two of the main cops around town. 526 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:22,260 He was always a friend of the family from when I was a kid. 527 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,630 Growing up, he'd always taken care of us. 528 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,230 [Chad] He did anything he could 529 00:29:27,220 --> 00:29:28,510 to help me out growing up. 530 00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:30,470 I mean, he never was bad to us. 531 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:33,470 He always did to help us, always helped. 532 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:36,130 Everybody loved Terrie Guillory back then. 533 00:29:36,130 --> 00:29:38,720 [Barb Ann] When my son Donovan was young, 534 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,970 Donovan always wanted to be a cop. 535 00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:43,130 And Terrie would pass by 536 00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:45,970 and let him turn the lights on or whatever, in the car. 537 00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:48,720 Or Terrie would take him for a ride in the car. 538 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,340 And they just always called him Uncle Terrie. 539 00:29:51,340 --> 00:29:53,130 [Sarah] I've known Terrie 540 00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:56,090 for a very long time, you know. 541 00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:59,170 Anybody, if you needed a favor or whatever, call Terrie, 542 00:29:59,180 --> 00:30:01,310 you know, he'll help you. 543 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,720 Everybody thinks they can trust this person on the police force. 544 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,050 I know that Crystal did. 545 00:30:07,050 --> 00:30:09,800 Crystal trusted him. 546 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,630 [Ethan] Terrie Guillory was the warden 547 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,560 of the parish jail during the period 548 00:30:13,550 --> 00:30:15,840 of the Jeff Davis 8 homicides. 549 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,170 His ex-wife at the time, 550 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:22,230 Paula Guillory, also worked for the sheriff's office 551 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:25,920 as an investigator. 552 00:30:25,930 --> 00:30:29,560 Terrie knew most, if not all of the Jeff Davis 8. 553 00:30:29,550 --> 00:30:32,220 He was even connected by blood 554 00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,420 to victim number eight, Necole Guillory. 555 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:39,010 [Barbara] Terrie is 556 00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:40,970 my nephew by marriage. 557 00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:44,970 And Necole is Terrie's cousin. 558 00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:48,380 Necole told me one time that Terrie made the comment 559 00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:51,350 that if she wouldn't be kin to him, 560 00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:53,840 that he would... 561 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,260 sleep with her. 562 00:30:56,260 --> 00:30:58,420 And he said, uh, 563 00:30:58,430 --> 00:31:01,230 it didn't matter anyway, he said. 564 00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:03,720 N-Necole said that he told her 565 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,590 that th-they weren't close cousins anyhow. 566 00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:08,170 But that's bullshit. 567 00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:15,470 Necole's second home was the jailhouse. [chuckles] 568 00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:19,470 I don't know too much about what went on in jail. 569 00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:23,170 But they told me that Terrie could be mean to some of 'em. 570 00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:26,350 You know, if they wouldn't do what he wanted to do, 571 00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:29,090 he-he could pretty well-- 572 00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:31,340 you know, he could make 'em-- make their life miserable. 573 00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:37,260 [Ethan] Outside of the jail, 574 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:38,970 Terrie Guillory was someone 575 00:31:38,970 --> 00:31:43,130 that the Jeff Davis 8 called on for help 576 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:45,340 whenever they were in a bind. 577 00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:48,800 He was a go-to person for help because, 578 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,970 according to south side residents, 579 00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:57,840 he would engage in kind of trades with you. 580 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,470 If you gave Terrie some information 581 00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:03,760 about a drug dealer, he might let a ticket go, 582 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,340 he might let a drug charge go. 583 00:32:12,430 --> 00:32:14,430 [insects chirring] 584 00:32:14,430 --> 00:32:16,020 The Jeff Davis 8, 585 00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:18,470 as women who cycled in and out of the jail 586 00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:20,590 fairly constantly-- 587 00:32:20,590 --> 00:32:23,130 they were intimately aware 588 00:32:23,130 --> 00:32:27,380 of the dynamic that Terrie had 589 00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:30,140 with residents of the south side. 590 00:32:36,090 --> 00:32:37,630 [woman] If Loretta or myself 591 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,310 or anyone of the crew 592 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:41,300 break the law in any kind of way, 593 00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:44,300 be in a bar or something and the cops will get called, 594 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:45,840 Terrie Guillory was always on the scene 595 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,090 when it came down to... 596 00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:50,630 the-the junkies and the prostitutes. 597 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,520 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 598 00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:55,880 ♪♪♪ 599 00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:57,600 Terrie Guillory was more than willing to... 600 00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:59,670 to lend his hand. 601 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,140 But things didn't... 602 00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:02,840 they didn't get dealt with right. 603 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,170 Not like a normal police officer would have dealt with it. 604 00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:11,350 He had a thing for Loretta, Terrie Guillory. 605 00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:12,590 He had a-he had a thing for Loretta. 606 00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:14,880 Of course, not too many men didn't. 607 00:33:14,890 --> 00:33:18,020 She was gorgeous, beautiful, very intelligent, 608 00:33:18,010 --> 00:33:19,510 but very addicted to crack. 609 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,970 [Barb Ann] Loretta and Terrie had-had to have some 610 00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:27,720 kind of relationship-- I don't know. 611 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,550 I'm not gonna speculate. 612 00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:31,510 I'm not gonna guess. 613 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:34,170 But there had to have something. 614 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:36,520 I-I don't know what, because 615 00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,220 when she got-- Loretta got released 616 00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:40,130 that last time that she was in jail 617 00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:43,880 before she got killed, Terrie Guillory brought her home 618 00:33:43,890 --> 00:33:45,980 to my house. 619 00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:49,510 Them fuckers never gave me a ride home. 620 00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:51,510 I've been to jail a lot of times. 621 00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:53,550 I don't care if it's the middle of the night, 622 00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:55,970 cold as hell-- nobody offered me a ride home. 623 00:33:55,970 --> 00:33:57,970 ♪♪♪ 624 00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:04,140 [Nick] Loretta, the relationship 625 00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:07,380 with Terrie, uh, a lot of it 626 00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:09,060 was hearsay, you know, 627 00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:11,380 but there had been sexual relations 628 00:34:11,390 --> 00:34:14,060 between the two throughout the years. 629 00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:16,630 And I... I do know that for a fact. 630 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,730 When I was probably 11, 12 years old, 631 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,670 and that would have put Loretta at 14 or 15, 632 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,140 he picked us up in a city police car, 633 00:34:27,130 --> 00:34:29,260 and we went to his house. 634 00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:31,220 Uh, I mean, I ended up spending the night 635 00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:33,970 at his house one night with her on the couch. 636 00:34:33,970 --> 00:34:36,260 I was on the couch. 637 00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:38,920 I mean, I went to sleep, but I remember waking up 638 00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:40,560 in the middle of the night and... 639 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:43,260 she was coming back down from his room. 640 00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:46,010 Uh, they-they had sex. 641 00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:48,130 She had told me, you know. 642 00:34:48,130 --> 00:34:50,550 Of course, what other reason would he pick us up 643 00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:52,300 and bring us to his house for, 644 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:54,010 you know, when we were out after curfew? 645 00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:55,920 She was young. 646 00:34:55,930 --> 00:34:57,890 He was definitely not at the age 647 00:34:57,890 --> 00:35:01,180 that you should be sleeping with a 14, 15-year-old. 648 00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:03,350 Yeah. 649 00:35:03,340 --> 00:35:05,090 [woman] I remember an incident. 650 00:35:05,090 --> 00:35:09,090 I was incarcerated with Loretta. 651 00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:12,970 I remember waking up in the middle of the night and... 652 00:35:12,970 --> 00:35:15,630 and I could hear noises. 653 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,310 So I jumped down from my bunk, 654 00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:21,090 and when you opened the thing, you could see, 655 00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:23,300 you know, it was big enough for you to see. 656 00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:27,130 And looking through this little hole, 657 00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:29,840 and she was in the last cell, 658 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,130 and you could see Terrie Guillory 659 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,050 with his pants halfway down, 660 00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:39,800 having intercourse with Loretta Chaisson 661 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,090 in the last-- The door was closed, 662 00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:44,340 but he was doing it through the thing. 663 00:35:44,340 --> 00:35:47,670 And after that, she got whatever she wanted. 664 00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:53,630 And poor thing would cry. She hated herself. 665 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,980 She felt since she was a little girl that's all she was worth. 666 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,380 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 667 00:36:13,390 --> 00:36:14,730 ♪♪♪ 668 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,050 [birds chirping] 669 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:19,920 [Barb Ann] Before everybody even knew 670 00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:22,890 Loretta got killed, 671 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:27,230 I got a knock on the door and it was Terrie Guillory. 672 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:34,170 And he says, "Hey, Barbara," 673 00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:35,730 or whatever the heck he said. 674 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,550 And he's like, "Have you seen Loretta?" 675 00:36:39,550 --> 00:36:42,050 And I said, "Well, no. 676 00:36:42,050 --> 00:36:44,260 Why, is something the matter?" 677 00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:47,380 "Oh, no, no. I'm just checking on her." 678 00:36:48,970 --> 00:36:50,300 "Okay." 679 00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:55,170 What the hell you checking on her for? 680 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:57,600 Little while later, 681 00:36:57,590 --> 00:37:01,630 at one of my son's friend's house-- Donovan's-- 682 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,430 Jesse Ewing, city police, was over there, 683 00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:08,270 and Donovan overheard the call on the radio 684 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:11,380 saying they found a female's body in the canal. 685 00:37:12,970 --> 00:37:14,840 Nick and I left my house 686 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,670 and came all the way down 687 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,270 to the highway where the bridge was. 688 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,340 Well, after about 20 689 00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:25,630 or 30 minutes, 690 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,770 they start walking up the embankment on the side 691 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,590 of the bridge... 692 00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:32,760 [Nick] And all of a sudden, we seen a couple 693 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,590 of heads popping up coming from underneath the bridge, 694 00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:36,170 and they were carrying a body bag. 695 00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:38,770 Yeah. 696 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,170 The whole time I'm standing there thinking 697 00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:43,270 what the fuck did Terrie Guillory come 698 00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:45,010 to my house looking for Loretta for? 699 00:37:45,010 --> 00:37:46,470 Bam, here's a body. 700 00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:48,630 Why did Terrie Guillory know this 701 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,270 before anybody said anything to-- you know, 702 00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:53,090 about Loretta being missing-- no one was worried. 703 00:37:53,090 --> 00:37:55,470 I mean, uh... 704 00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,510 It would hurt, uh... [sighs] 705 00:37:59,510 --> 00:38:02,720 It hurts my heart if-if he is involved, 706 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,050 which, I mean, it's-it's hard to point away from it. 707 00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:06,800 It's hard to say he's not. 708 00:38:09,130 --> 00:38:11,840 ♪ quiet, tense music ♪ 709 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,300 ♪♪♪ 710 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,100 Crystal babysat for Terrie. 711 00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:25,590 I believed she was a babysitter. 712 00:38:27,550 --> 00:38:31,550 But I believe there was more to it than that. 713 00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:33,670 Yes, I believe Terrie Guillory slept with Crystal Benoit. 714 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,930 I sure do. 715 00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:37,520 ♪ somber music ♪ 716 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:39,170 ♪♪♪ 717 00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:42,560 [Ethan] Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno-- 718 00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:45,670 victim number six-- was a latecomer 719 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,020 to the world of... 720 00:38:48,010 --> 00:38:50,340 South Jennings sex work and drugs. 721 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,100 But she fell in right with the other women 722 00:38:57,090 --> 00:38:59,420 in their social networks. 723 00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:02,640 In the weeks before Crystal was killed, 724 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,140 her connections to Frankie Richard 725 00:39:06,130 --> 00:39:08,380 and his family only deepened. 726 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:11,230 She partied with Frankie's brother, 727 00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:14,420 Billy, and the Richard home 728 00:39:14,430 --> 00:39:18,480 on McKinley Street became a kind of 729 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:21,050 part-time residence for her. 730 00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:24,220 On the day of her murder, Crystal walked 731 00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:26,340 to the Phillips 66 gas station, 732 00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:30,010 and made a phone call to Terrie Guillory. 733 00:39:30,010 --> 00:39:32,220 It is unclear 734 00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:34,880 what the content of that call is. 735 00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:38,310 Numerous witnesses have said 736 00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:42,050 that soon after Crystal made the call to Terrie, 737 00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:43,880 she got into a white truck 738 00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:47,100 with a group of men connected to Frankie Richard, 739 00:39:47,090 --> 00:39:50,670 who were known as Frankie Richard's hands-on men. 740 00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:55,270 "Hands-on men" means 741 00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:57,260 pretty much what it implies, 742 00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:59,420 meaning that these are the men 743 00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:02,430 who will actually harm people. 744 00:40:02,430 --> 00:40:06,350 They will have their hands on a victim. 745 00:40:06,340 --> 00:40:09,760 That is the last time that she was likely seen alive. 746 00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:13,920 Two weeks later, Crystal's body 747 00:40:13,930 --> 00:40:16,640 was found by hunters 748 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,020 in a wooded area off of Lacour Road. 749 00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:23,220 And her body was heavily decomposed. 750 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:28,140 I was informed by Crystal's family 751 00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:32,550 that Terrie Guillory showed up to the Benoit family home 752 00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:35,970 and said that "Crystal is dead, 753 00:40:35,970 --> 00:40:37,720 but I didn't kill her." 754 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,470 That was, apparently, an unprompted remark. 755 00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:44,260 Nobody asked Terrie, "Did you kill Crystal?" 756 00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:47,300 Nobody accused Terrie of killing Crystal. 757 00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,630 It seemingly didn't come up at all. 758 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,020 Terrie simply said, "I didn't kill Crystal." 759 00:40:53,010 --> 00:40:55,050 ♪ ominous music ♪ 760 00:40:55,050 --> 00:40:56,470 ♪♪♪ 761 00:40:59,470 --> 00:41:01,300 [Sarah] When I got wind of all this, 762 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,720 I called Terrie Guillory. 763 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,470 Terrie Guillory said that he seen one of the tattoos 764 00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:07,510 on her back, that he knew it was her. 765 00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:09,010 From the conditions I heard they found her body in 766 00:41:09,010 --> 00:41:10,670 after they found her, 767 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,060 there was no way he-he could have saw a tattoo. 768 00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:17,220 There was nothing there. 769 00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:20,880 The hunters didn't even know it was a body 770 00:41:20,890 --> 00:41:23,430 until they seen the skull. 771 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:25,350 They thought it was a dead coyote. 772 00:41:25,340 --> 00:41:27,090 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 773 00:41:27,090 --> 00:41:28,630 ♪♪♪ 774 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,480 [Ethan] Just like almost all of 775 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:32,800 these other cases, there was not a lot 776 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,800 of physical evidence, but there was 777 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,010 one witness 778 00:41:38,010 --> 00:41:40,300 that came forward. 779 00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:43,340 Russell Carrier 780 00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:46,170 was a southwest Louisiana resident. 781 00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:50,730 His sister, Barb Ann, was a kind of motherly figure 782 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,010 to many of the Jeff Davis 8. 783 00:41:54,010 --> 00:41:58,510 Right around the time that Crystal was murdered, 784 00:41:58,510 --> 00:42:01,380 Russell was out in the Lacour Road area. 785 00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:04,270 He was addicted to crack cocaine, 786 00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,420 and he would go into the very dense and wooded 787 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:09,730 and rural area around Lacour Road 788 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:11,170 to do drugs. 789 00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:14,310 [Barb Ann] My brother was riding 790 00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:17,050 on the back road, smoking crack, 791 00:42:17,050 --> 00:42:19,720 when he came upon three black guys 792 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,300 exiting the wooded area where 793 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,720 Crystal's body was found. 794 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,720 [Ethan] The three men that 795 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,090 Russell said he observed 796 00:42:29,090 --> 00:42:30,760 leaving the wooded area 797 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,220 where Crystal's body had been dumped were 798 00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:36,720 Frankie Richard's hands-on men. 799 00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:45,630 Russell Carrier knew these men directly 800 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,430 from the drug world in South Jennings. 801 00:42:48,430 --> 00:42:52,600 He then told his family about this, 802 00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:56,800 and he, according to his family, reported 803 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,090 seeing these three men coming out of the woods, 804 00:43:00,090 --> 00:43:02,170 where Crystal's body had been dumped, 805 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:05,140 to the Jeff Davis Parish D.A.'s office. 806 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:06,760 [Cormier] We received information that 807 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,590 Mr. Carrier had information. 808 00:43:08,590 --> 00:43:11,760 Now, I can't get into, you know, how much of that was verified 809 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,670 in what-what we had. 810 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560 I know what was-was received, and what was used 811 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:18,420 through the investigation. 812 00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:20,770 I can't-- I don't know what else might have been out there 813 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,470 that somebody said or didn't say. 814 00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:25,380 [Hannah] October 10, 815 00:43:25,390 --> 00:43:28,480 2010, my brother came banging on the door. 816 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:30,220 He said, "You need to come with me, 817 00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:32,470 and you need to come with me now." 818 00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:34,300 They found Uncle Russell dead. 819 00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:35,880 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 820 00:43:35,890 --> 00:43:37,560 ♪♪♪ 821 00:43:37,550 --> 00:43:40,630 [Ethan] Russell was struck by a train 822 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,230 in Jennings. 823 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:44,470 The family was told 824 00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:47,630 that Russell simply laid down 825 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,640 for an unknown reason, and was struck 826 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,480 -by this train. -[Cormier] His death 827 00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:55,630 has not been ruled a homicide. 828 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,850 I don't have any information that he was killed 829 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,510 by an individual. 830 00:44:02,510 --> 00:44:04,090 The-the police report information 831 00:44:04,090 --> 00:44:06,010 that-that had part of our investigation is that 832 00:44:06,010 --> 00:44:07,720 he was struck by a train 833 00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,170 while laying on the railroad tracks. 834 00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:12,520 ♪♪♪ 835 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:15,090 [Barb Ann] The police said Russell committed suicide. 836 00:44:15,090 --> 00:44:17,050 Fuck the police. 837 00:44:17,050 --> 00:44:20,010 That was not in him. 838 00:44:20,010 --> 00:44:23,010 My brother Russell did not lay down on the railroad track 839 00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:24,340 and let a fucking train run over him. 840 00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:31,260 Someone beat my brother to death and put him on the tracks 841 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:33,010 for the train to run over him 842 00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:36,920 to hide what truly happened. 843 00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:39,480 The cops, when I talked to them years later-- 844 00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:41,720 the case is still open-- [sniffles] 845 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,630 they're full of fucking shit. 846 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,390 [siren wailing in distance] 847 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,730 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 848 00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:53,380 ♪♪♪ 849 00:44:58,050 --> 00:45:00,590 [Ethan] After Crystal's homicide, 850 00:45:00,590 --> 00:45:01,880 there were now 851 00:45:01,890 --> 00:45:03,600 six victims 852 00:45:03,590 --> 00:45:07,130 with deep connections to Frankie Richard. 853 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,550 And many of them with Terrie Guillory. 854 00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:16,380 The fact that the names 855 00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:19,350 of Terrie Guillory and Frankie Richard 856 00:45:19,340 --> 00:45:22,670 hover around these cases 857 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,890 complicates... 858 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:28,930 this sprawling and still open murder case. 859 00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:31,770 In 2009, 860 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,760 a number of people claimed to have observed, 861 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,510 firsthand, Terrie Guillory and his ex-wife, 862 00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:40,420 Paula, 863 00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:44,270 socializing with Frankie 864 00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:47,840 at the Richard family home on McKinley Street. 865 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,260 [Frankie] I'd been knowing Terrie Guillory 866 00:45:52,260 --> 00:45:54,380 all his life. 867 00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:57,270 I always felt like 868 00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:59,420 he was somewhat... 869 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,340 ...a friend. 870 00:46:03,340 --> 00:46:06,880 Not the type of friend 871 00:46:06,890 --> 00:46:09,140 that I would go... 872 00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:14,020 ...beat somebody up with, 873 00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:18,010 or go rob somebody with. 874 00:46:18,010 --> 00:46:21,970 But anytime Terry Guillory 875 00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:25,800 came to our house, 876 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,550 where I was, 877 00:46:29,550 --> 00:46:33,670 it was to conduct police business. 878 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,930 [Jessica] I've caught Paula's car 879 00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:38,730 over there numerous times during the day, 880 00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,130 at Frankie Richard's mom's house. 881 00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:43,260 What'd she be over there for period, 882 00:46:43,260 --> 00:46:45,590 unless he's working for you? 883 00:46:45,590 --> 00:46:47,720 Or he's working for your husband. 884 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,720 Or you're buying coke. What you doing? 885 00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,090 There's no reason for you to be over there. 886 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,840 [Ethan] Was Terrie Guillory ever 887 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,010 in-involved in the drugs or prostitution trade, 888 00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:18,670 to your knowledge? 889 00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:23,090 [Ethan] I do know that, yeah. 890 00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:29,340 [Ethan] He brought you into law enforcement? 891 00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:32,420 [Edwards] The formation 892 00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:34,390 of this group today will allow 893 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:37,100 eight to ten people to work full-time 894 00:47:37,090 --> 00:47:39,510 and exclusively to these cases. 895 00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:42,010 We will continue to search for leads, 896 00:47:42,010 --> 00:47:45,050 utilizing every resource that is available to us. 897 00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:47,720 [Ethan] When the task force 898 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,760 was created, 899 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,510 there was an initial burst of optimism. 900 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:57,970 But the hope that the alleged relationships 901 00:47:57,970 --> 00:48:00,340 that Terrie Guillory had with Frankie Richard 902 00:48:00,340 --> 00:48:02,800 and the women of the Jeff Davis 8 903 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,380 would be investigated deeply were dashed when 904 00:48:07,390 --> 00:48:11,100 Terrie's ex-wife, Paula Guillory, 905 00:48:11,090 --> 00:48:13,090 landed a prominent place 906 00:48:13,090 --> 00:48:16,010 on the task force. 907 00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:17,670 There were eight dead women, 908 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,930 no justice for any of those women. 909 00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:23,310 And investigations into Frankie unraveling 910 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,590 due to law enforcement misconduct. 911 00:48:26,590 --> 00:48:28,630 It forces you to ask, 912 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,730 what was Frankie's relationship 913 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,050 with law enforcement? 914 00:48:35,470 --> 00:48:37,630 Two witnesses who went to the task force 915 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,230 with information about Frankie Richard, 916 00:48:40,220 --> 00:48:43,380 and with information about the Jeff Davis 8 homicides, 917 00:48:43,390 --> 00:48:45,930 came away from that meeting and said they were told 918 00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:47,640 by the task force, 919 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,430 "Don't worry about Frankie Richard. 920 00:48:53,340 --> 00:48:55,970 Frankie Richard works for us." 67903

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