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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,930 --> 00:00:35,890 [fan whirring] 2 00:00:52,470 --> 00:00:54,600 ♪ quiet, atmospheric music ♪ 3 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,600 ♪♪♪ 4 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,680 [Jessica] I let the shit with the girls eat me up daily. 5 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,770 They didn't deserve what the hell they got. 6 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:14,480 The girls has... 7 00:01:14,470 --> 00:01:17,720 pretty much been forgotten in this town. 8 00:01:19,430 --> 00:01:24,140 You don't really ever hear anybody speak of 'em. 9 00:01:24,140 --> 00:01:27,720 It's like... they never existed. 10 00:01:27,730 --> 00:01:30,570 Like they never mattered. 11 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,020 Killer could be sitting in front of our face 12 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:36,020 all day, every day. 13 00:01:36,020 --> 00:01:37,470 'Cause... 14 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,810 ...they can kill in this town and get away with it. 15 00:01:45,020 --> 00:01:47,060 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 16 00:01:47,060 --> 00:01:48,720 ♪♪♪ 17 00:01:57,390 --> 00:02:00,810 This is the Devil's playground... 18 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:03,310 and they runnin' right along him. 19 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:09,030 They do what they want when they want, how they want, 20 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:11,470 and nobody tries... 21 00:02:11,470 --> 00:02:13,640 to stop 'em. 22 00:02:20,470 --> 00:02:22,520 [crickets chirping] 23 00:02:32,810 --> 00:02:34,850 [birds chirping] 24 00:02:49,810 --> 00:02:52,100 ♪ soft piano music ♪ 25 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:54,140 ♪♪♪ 26 00:02:58,850 --> 00:03:02,890 [man] Well, I came out here that morning to go fishing. 27 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:19,220 And I looked down, and I seen something in the water. 28 00:03:19,220 --> 00:03:21,390 It looked like a mannequin. 29 00:03:24,730 --> 00:03:27,480 Then I seen the flies alighting on it. 30 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,560 And I said, "Flies wouldn't be alighting on a mannequin." 31 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:38,600 Then I realized it had to be a body. 32 00:03:42,220 --> 00:03:44,680 [Cormier] Loretta Chaisson's body was found on May 20 33 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,850 of 2005. 34 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:52,180 When deputies first arrived at the scene, the body was 35 00:03:52,180 --> 00:03:54,390 more toward the north side of the bridge, 36 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:56,100 closer to where the pylons were. 37 00:03:57,430 --> 00:03:59,430 'Cause the body was too far 38 00:03:59,430 --> 00:04:01,180 from the bank to be retrieved, 39 00:04:01,180 --> 00:04:03,720 they brought the body over underneath the bridge 40 00:04:03,730 --> 00:04:05,440 to the south side. 41 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:07,430 ♪ somber music ♪ 42 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:09,100 ♪♪♪ 43 00:04:10,850 --> 00:04:14,970 The reaction to the discovery of the body was 44 00:04:14,980 --> 00:04:16,320 very shocking to the community. 45 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:18,640 It's not something you find every day. 46 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,270 You have homicides-- people are found dead-- 47 00:04:22,270 --> 00:04:25,180 but a body in a canal 48 00:04:25,180 --> 00:04:26,640 found dumped, 49 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,310 it's a very tragic, horrible situation, 50 00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:31,890 and people were upset. 51 00:04:31,890 --> 00:04:33,970 They want... they want answers. 52 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:37,940 But our-our main concern, obviously, is to the victim... 53 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:42,390 ...'cause they need justice. 54 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,430 [knuckles cracking] 55 00:04:50,430 --> 00:04:54,270 [sniffs] Sheriff Ricky Edwards comes knocking on my door, 56 00:04:54,270 --> 00:04:57,680 saying that they found my daughter under the bridge. 57 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,810 That was the worst feeling that I ever had. 58 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:14,350 Yeah, it's been 13 years 59 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:17,680 since they found my daughter's body, 60 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,640 and, uh... 61 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,680 I miss her so much, you know. 62 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:26,100 And it still hurts. 63 00:05:31,930 --> 00:05:34,600 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 64 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,930 ♪♪♪ 65 00:05:36,930 --> 00:05:38,560 [Nick] We couldn't... 66 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,100 start a funeral until after they did the autopsy. 67 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:44,390 It was a closed casket. 68 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:49,850 She had been in there, in the water for a few days, 69 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:52,100 and the body had started decomposing. 70 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,140 None of us wanted to see her like that. 71 00:05:55,220 --> 00:05:57,640 [Chad] Loretta was married. 72 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,770 Had two kids. 73 00:05:59,770 --> 00:06:02,560 She was always about her kids. 74 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Always had a smile 75 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,520 on her face and would never hurt nobody. 76 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,720 She'd always try to help somebody before she'd hurt you. 77 00:06:12,730 --> 00:06:14,730 Between me, Loretta and Nick, 78 00:06:14,730 --> 00:06:16,480 me and her were the first two, 79 00:06:16,470 --> 00:06:18,770 and my mom's first two kids, so... 80 00:06:18,770 --> 00:06:20,470 we was close. 81 00:06:20,470 --> 00:06:22,520 I just miss her. 82 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,270 [Jessica] She was living with us, 83 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:29,930 'because... there were some days 84 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:32,100 she would be sober, 85 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:35,100 and some days she'll do her little binges. 86 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:37,850 Her and her husband were split up. 87 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:41,350 She felt safe with us. 88 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Safeness at my house, 89 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,970 away from everything she was doing out here. 90 00:06:47,980 --> 00:06:51,400 So whatever she did out here, she didn't bring to my house, 91 00:06:51,390 --> 00:06:54,350 because she was there spending time with her kids. 92 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:57,270 And when she left there, she did... whatever she did. 93 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:59,270 [Chad] She might've did her drugs 94 00:06:59,270 --> 00:07:00,720 and this and that, 95 00:07:00,730 --> 00:07:04,480 but everybody got some kind of... 96 00:07:04,470 --> 00:07:06,470 weakness, you know? 97 00:07:06,470 --> 00:07:09,890 And that was hers. 98 00:07:09,890 --> 00:07:12,470 Couple of days before she went missing, 99 00:07:12,470 --> 00:07:16,350 Loretta asked me to walk to the bar with her. 100 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:18,970 She looked at the bar. 101 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:21,570 She-- it looked like she noticed something. 102 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,520 And she looked back at me and she gave me her purse. 103 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,430 She don't ever give me her purse. 104 00:07:26,430 --> 00:07:29,020 She gave me her purse and told me to put her purse 105 00:07:29,020 --> 00:07:30,890 at the top of my mom's closet, 106 00:07:30,890 --> 00:07:32,810 just in case if anything happens. 107 00:07:32,810 --> 00:07:34,810 And that's the last time I seen her. 108 00:07:34,810 --> 00:07:37,600 'Cause she turned me around and made me go home. 109 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,180 [Roxanne] One day Loretta 110 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:44,470 came to the door, and she said, "Roxanne, 111 00:07:44,470 --> 00:07:46,020 I'm tired of living this life. 112 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:47,770 I want to raise my children. 113 00:07:47,770 --> 00:07:49,850 I'm so tired of this life." 114 00:07:49,850 --> 00:07:54,020 She said, "I'm gonna leave, and I'm not coming back." 115 00:07:56,730 --> 00:07:59,610 Three days later, she was dead. 116 00:08:02,350 --> 00:08:04,100 [Chad] Before they found 117 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:05,890 Loretta's body in the canal, 118 00:08:05,890 --> 00:08:08,310 I was walking on the main highway, 119 00:08:08,310 --> 00:08:11,560 and I've seen Loretta at 66. 120 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,890 We sat there and we talked, 121 00:08:13,890 --> 00:08:16,680 and this guy, Frankie Richard, 122 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,180 pulls up in a big, tan car. 123 00:08:19,180 --> 00:08:21,350 She gets in the car with him. 124 00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:23,890 And that was the last time I ever seen her. 125 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,720 I didn't... I didn't know Frankie, 126 00:08:27,730 --> 00:08:30,280 but I heard rumors from my uncles 127 00:08:30,270 --> 00:08:31,890 that he used to supply drugs, 128 00:08:31,890 --> 00:08:33,970 used to go pick up a lot of drugs. 129 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:37,440 [Nick] The only thing I'd ever knew was his name, 130 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:40,390 until all this really started happening. 131 00:08:40,390 --> 00:08:42,180 Then I started hearing 132 00:08:42,180 --> 00:08:45,350 about how he was a pimp in Lafayette 133 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:48,020 and he liked telling stories about what he did, 134 00:08:48,020 --> 00:08:51,680 and, you know, as far as when it came to violence. 135 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,890 But, you know, Loretta never talked bad about Frankie. 136 00:08:53,890 --> 00:08:56,970 When she got in the car with him, she got in the car 137 00:08:56,980 --> 00:08:58,690 happy with Frankie. 138 00:09:00,220 --> 00:09:03,600 Frankie Richard? Yeah, I heard he had a lot to do with it, 139 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,430 but... that was just hearsay, you know. 140 00:09:10,930 --> 00:09:13,270 [Cormier] Frankie Richard was somebody that was known 141 00:09:13,270 --> 00:09:16,850 to associate with, uh, known prostitutes in the area, 142 00:09:16,850 --> 00:09:19,350 was known to be involved in the drug world 143 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:21,100 in the Jennings area, 144 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:23,720 and also had a violent past. 145 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:27,150 The investigation into Loretta Chaisson's death 146 00:09:27,140 --> 00:09:31,270 was led by then-Sheriff Ricky Edwards. 147 00:09:31,270 --> 00:09:33,430 The investigators were able to discover a lot of information 148 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:35,520 about Loretta Chaisson's whereabouts 149 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,270 prior to the time she was found. 150 00:09:38,270 --> 00:09:40,930 But unfortunately, the... the critical time of... 151 00:09:40,930 --> 00:09:43,020 exactly when this incident happened 152 00:09:43,020 --> 00:09:47,470 and how she got to the canal were still questions. 153 00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:48,970 There have been no arrests made 154 00:09:48,980 --> 00:09:50,780 in the death of Loretta Chaisson. 155 00:09:50,770 --> 00:09:53,060 It's an open investigation. 156 00:09:55,850 --> 00:09:58,060 ♪ quiet, atmospheric music ♪ 157 00:09:58,060 --> 00:09:59,970 ♪♪♪ 158 00:09:59,980 --> 00:10:01,980 [Scott] Day after the story breaks 159 00:10:01,980 --> 00:10:04,530 in the Jennings Daily News that a body's been found, 160 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,890 the Jennings Daily News 161 00:10:05,890 --> 00:10:07,270 and the Jeff Davis Parish Sheriff's Office 162 00:10:07,270 --> 00:10:08,470 start getting bombarded with phone calls, 163 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:10,140 and it's people asking... 164 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:12,560 if there's a serial killer on the loose. 165 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:14,560 ♪ somber music ♪ 166 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:16,770 ♪♪♪ 167 00:10:21,770 --> 00:10:24,390 Now, only one body's been found, 168 00:10:24,390 --> 00:10:27,060 and it-it's being treated as a homicide, 169 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,520 but there's not even a cause of death that's been announced 170 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,600 or anything like that. 171 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,680 It's a very weird situation 172 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:35,220 to suddenly be getting all these phone calls, 173 00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:36,720 and the sheriff, at this point, 174 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:38,530 has to issue a statement, saying: 175 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,520 We don't have any information on anything like that. 176 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,350 It's never really known where that rumor came from. 177 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,520 [insects chittering] 178 00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:55,520 ♪ somber music continues ♪ 179 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,520 ♪♪♪ 180 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:17,220 [motor idling] 181 00:11:27,730 --> 00:11:29,360 There's one. 182 00:11:29,350 --> 00:11:33,560 [Cormier] Loretta's body was found on May 20, 2005. 183 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,430 June 17... 184 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:39,680 a group of froggers goes out. 185 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:43,390 [man] To the right. 186 00:11:43,390 --> 00:11:45,220 [man 2] Got him. 187 00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:53,890 It's nighttime. 188 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:58,100 They are out there trying to catch frogs. 189 00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:02,140 Then suddenly... 190 00:12:02,140 --> 00:12:05,520 they start to smell something. 191 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:12,930 Find another body 192 00:12:12,930 --> 00:12:17,390 six miles away from where Loretta was found. 193 00:12:30,020 --> 00:12:32,600 [dog yapping in distance] 194 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,640 [TV playing indistinctly] 195 00:12:37,980 --> 00:12:41,110 A man can lose an awful lot of friends in a rainstorm. 196 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,810 [TV show continues indistinctly] 197 00:12:43,810 --> 00:12:45,890 [whispers] Oh, God. 198 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,060 [sniffs] 199 00:12:50,810 --> 00:12:53,600 The police came here. 200 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,810 Come through that door right... through that door right there, 201 00:12:55,810 --> 00:12:58,140 knocking on the door, and he said, "Ms. Daniels, 202 00:12:58,140 --> 00:13:00,520 some frog... some froggers found a body." 203 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,640 So, he says, he says, "That's Jeff... that's Jeff... 204 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,810 that's Jeff Daniels' daughter." 205 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:08,400 And I say, "What?" 206 00:13:08,390 --> 00:13:09,890 He told me. He said, 207 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:12,600 "They were frog... frog fishing, 208 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,520 and they found a body." 209 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,680 They said, "That's Jeff Daniels' daughter." 210 00:13:18,390 --> 00:13:20,390 And I said, 211 00:13:20,390 --> 00:13:22,430 "Oh, Lord Jesus." 212 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:27,140 He said, "The body must have been in there 213 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:28,680 three or four days." 214 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,020 The coroner came over here saying 215 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:35,350 that we couldn't see the body 216 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:38,810 'cause the body was too decomposed. 217 00:13:38,810 --> 00:13:40,720 She was cut in the throat, 218 00:13:40,730 --> 00:13:43,730 and her hand was all bruised right there. 219 00:13:43,730 --> 00:13:45,190 And her face. 220 00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:47,680 And her face... They say, it ain't essentially her face. 221 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:50,270 Well, not being able to recognize her. 222 00:13:50,270 --> 00:13:52,430 Wouldn't, um, wouldn't be able to recognize her. 223 00:13:52,430 --> 00:13:54,810 -[mutters] -Took three months before 224 00:13:54,810 --> 00:13:58,720 they find out it was Ernestine Patterson. 225 00:13:58,730 --> 00:14:00,780 Mm-hmm. 226 00:14:00,770 --> 00:14:04,560 You know... it-it's been hard. 227 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,560 This photo is photo from the... 228 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:09,720 the sheriff's office. 229 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:11,900 It's the only photo I have of Ernestine. 230 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:13,390 And I got... 231 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:15,930 It's the only thing I have of her... 232 00:14:15,930 --> 00:14:18,220 of a... picture. 233 00:14:18,220 --> 00:14:19,810 [sniffles] 234 00:14:19,810 --> 00:14:22,180 I don't have nothing else but this. 235 00:14:24,980 --> 00:14:27,440 ♪ somber music ♪ 236 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:29,060 [crying] 237 00:14:29,060 --> 00:14:31,180 [takes deep breath] 238 00:14:34,180 --> 00:14:35,810 [Scott] When the second body is found, 239 00:14:35,810 --> 00:14:39,350 it's in an advanced state of decomposition. 240 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:40,720 It takes about two months 241 00:14:40,730 --> 00:14:42,190 before they can identify this body, 242 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:43,600 and they've got to use 243 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,180 bone samples to do it, 244 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:47,720 before they announce that the second body is 245 00:14:47,730 --> 00:14:50,780 Ernestine Marie Daniels Patterson. 246 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,680 [Cormier] When the investigation began 247 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,060 with Ernestine, the second female, 248 00:14:57,060 --> 00:14:59,850 there was some concern in law enforcement, 249 00:14:59,850 --> 00:15:01,850 because you had two female bodies 250 00:15:01,850 --> 00:15:04,100 that were basically found dumped, 251 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:06,430 you know, in-in a waterway, 252 00:15:06,430 --> 00:15:08,100 which is unusual. 253 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:11,270 There's always a thought. I mean, 254 00:15:11,270 --> 00:15:13,430 it-it'd be a legitimate thought 255 00:15:13,430 --> 00:15:15,520 that it could be a serial killer. 256 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,470 But the injuries 257 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:20,810 to the bodies were different. 258 00:15:20,810 --> 00:15:24,270 In the case with Loretta Chaisson, there is not 259 00:15:24,270 --> 00:15:26,270 obvious type injuries that you would sometimes find 260 00:15:26,270 --> 00:15:29,270 that lead you to determine that a homicide occurred. 261 00:15:32,730 --> 00:15:35,690 With Ernestine Daniels-- she had sustained 262 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,390 some incised wounds. 263 00:15:38,390 --> 00:15:42,270 The type of injuries that you'd find in some homicides. 264 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,180 [Evelyn] One day, 265 00:15:46,180 --> 00:15:47,810 Sheriff Ricky Edwards came over here wanting... 266 00:15:47,810 --> 00:15:49,560 wanting me to go up there and talk. 267 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,640 I'm not going up there and talk... talk to nobody 268 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,470 'cause they ain't found out who murdered her. 269 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:57,810 [sniffles] 270 00:15:57,810 --> 00:16:00,680 They ain't found out nothing. 271 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,770 I feel like they don't care. 272 00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:06,850 They don't care. 273 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:12,600 I don't have no closure, no peace. 274 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,520 I can't rest at night. 275 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,680 I don't have no closure, no peace. 276 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,560 ♪ somber music ♪ 277 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,180 ♪♪♪ 278 00:16:36,730 --> 00:16:38,780 [birds chirping] 279 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,600 [Ivey] Jennings is 280 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,180 just your typical small town. 281 00:16:53,180 --> 00:16:56,470 Lot of the families here are second, 282 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:58,100 third, fourth generation. 283 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,890 They, uh... 284 00:16:59,890 --> 00:17:01,640 Lot of hardworking people. 285 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,060 Just, uh, good, old country folks mostly. 286 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:17,640 Lot of farmers, ranchers 287 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,890 that, uh, grow rice, soybeans, 288 00:17:20,890 --> 00:17:24,020 uh, raise cattle. 289 00:17:24,020 --> 00:17:26,270 Everybody over here's related to somebody. 290 00:17:26,270 --> 00:17:28,470 That's how usually they start off a conversation 291 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:32,600 is trying to identify what family you're related to 292 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,770 or... or married into. 293 00:17:34,770 --> 00:17:36,430 [Cormier] People like to live 294 00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:38,270 in the area because it's away 295 00:17:38,270 --> 00:17:42,430 from the... lot of hustle and bustle of a bigger city. 296 00:17:42,430 --> 00:17:45,470 Here it's a little quieter, little slower pace, 297 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:47,270 and people tend to enjoy that. 298 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,890 [Ivey] Any town... 299 00:17:50,890 --> 00:17:53,770 has, uh, you know, their issues. 300 00:17:53,770 --> 00:17:56,180 We have a lot of issues with, uh, 301 00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:58,600 burglaries and thefts. 302 00:18:00,430 --> 00:18:02,560 [Scott] Unfortunately, 303 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,180 for better or for worse, 304 00:18:04,180 --> 00:18:06,890 you're a small Southern town whose economy is tied 305 00:18:06,890 --> 00:18:09,640 to volatile sources-- agriculture and oil-- 306 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,470 so that, when you get a crash, it just wipes everything out. 307 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:17,060 Then, on top of all that, 308 00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:19,930 there's a pronounced economic split in Jennings 309 00:18:19,930 --> 00:18:23,890 that runs along the railroad tracks which bisects the town. 310 00:18:24,980 --> 00:18:26,610 [Ivey] This area here in North 311 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,970 Jennings-- they're, you know, doctors 312 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:32,320 and lawyers and rich people. 313 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:36,310 This is one of the newest and probably the most expensive 314 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:38,640 neighborhoods in the parish. 315 00:18:42,930 --> 00:18:44,720 From, uh... 316 00:18:44,730 --> 00:18:48,280 from the railroad tracks south, it's mostly of lower income-- 317 00:18:48,270 --> 00:18:50,770 people that are unemployed, or... 318 00:18:50,770 --> 00:18:53,310 individuals involved in... 319 00:18:53,310 --> 00:18:55,850 drug activity. 320 00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:58,600 Where our job comes in is, we have a lot of issues 321 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,810 where, you know, 322 00:18:59,810 --> 00:19:03,520 addicts take things to try to... 323 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,520 get money to... to buy more drugs, you know? 324 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,970 [Jessica] North side is more like... 325 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:20,320 upper-class snobs. 326 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:25,180 South side? 327 00:19:25,180 --> 00:19:26,850 The fucking ghetto. 328 00:19:26,850 --> 00:19:30,020 You got the white ghetto, and you got the black ghetto. 329 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,140 Then you got Zoo Street, where everything pops off. 330 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,390 When I mean everything, everything. 331 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:41,430 ♪ somber music ♪ 332 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,470 ♪♪♪ 333 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,060 [Jessica] The cops look 334 00:19:53,060 --> 00:19:56,520 at the south side like... 335 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,100 [dog barking] 336 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:00,890 ...trash. 337 00:20:02,890 --> 00:20:04,390 Like we don't matter. 338 00:20:06,730 --> 00:20:08,820 [insects chittering] 339 00:20:12,850 --> 00:20:15,100 [Scott] Two years goes by, 340 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:18,350 and the sheriff's department was still investigating 341 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:20,520 Loretta and Ernestine's murders. 342 00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:27,020 I think a lot of people think, 343 00:20:27,020 --> 00:20:28,470 these first two murders were this unrelated thing, 344 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:30,020 and now they're-they're done. 345 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:34,470 Things kind of get back to normal, 346 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:36,890 and people just think it's over. 347 00:20:36,890 --> 00:20:38,930 And they were wrong. 348 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:42,430 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 349 00:20:42,430 --> 00:20:44,100 ♪♪♪ 350 00:20:54,140 --> 00:20:57,350 [Scott] March 18, 2007, 351 00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:59,810 a third body is found. 352 00:20:59,810 --> 00:21:02,890 This time, a lot further out. 353 00:21:02,890 --> 00:21:04,310 We're-we're now south of Welsh 354 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:08,140 and the Petitjean Canal, 355 00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:11,020 and it's such similar circumstances. 356 00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:13,470 I think everybody in town is just like, 357 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:15,470 "What on earth is going on here?" 358 00:21:17,140 --> 00:21:20,140 Police find very similar hallmarks 359 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:23,060 to the first two girls, 360 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:25,850 but this body has been in the water for much longer, however, 361 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:27,310 and has had more 362 00:21:27,310 --> 00:21:29,430 trauma from marine predators. 363 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:31,560 And she's found 364 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,560 mostly nude. 365 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,600 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 366 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,270 ♪♪♪ 367 00:21:38,770 --> 00:21:40,470 The sheriff's office had 368 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:43,930 to use dental records to identify the third body... 369 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,680 Kristen Gary Lopez. 370 00:21:49,810 --> 00:21:52,140 Age 21. 371 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:54,180 ♪ somber music ♪ 372 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:55,970 ♪♪♪ 373 00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:01,520 [Hannah] Before they had found her, 374 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Kristen was officially reported missing, 375 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,020 which was so odd. 376 00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:11,720 Everybody that I knew just thought she was on a bender. 377 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:15,900 You know, it wasn't uncommon for her to... be gone 378 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:19,220 for a couple of days at a time, a week at a time. 379 00:22:19,220 --> 00:22:20,680 Maybe that's why it rubbed... 380 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,310 it was so odd to me that there was an actual 381 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:24,850 missing persons report out on her 382 00:22:24,850 --> 00:22:28,560 when this wasn't uncommon for her to be gone. 383 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,770 First thing I did when I found that out-- 384 00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:32,430 I went to the cops. 385 00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:35,060 I wanted to be a part of it. You know, I wanted to help. 386 00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:37,390 You know, this is a friend of mine, my childhood friend. 387 00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:40,850 I wanted to... help find her. 388 00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:45,270 So, I threw myself... kinda in the middle. 389 00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:47,390 You know, calling the detectives, 390 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:49,810 asking, "Is there anything I can do?" 391 00:22:49,810 --> 00:22:51,350 I don't know. 392 00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:55,720 Like, everything surrounding her death just seemed odd. 393 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:57,150 [Jessica] I knew Kristen. 394 00:22:57,140 --> 00:23:00,850 My mom basically pretty much raised her. 395 00:23:00,850 --> 00:23:02,850 She was always at the house. 396 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:04,930 Kristen and I were walking 397 00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:07,310 to her grandmother's house one day. 398 00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:10,270 And you can look on her face and look in her eyes-- 399 00:23:10,270 --> 00:23:11,470 something was wrong. 400 00:23:11,470 --> 00:23:13,180 She's doing like this. 401 00:23:13,180 --> 00:23:16,640 Every time she hear a car, she turned. 402 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,140 I never seen her that paranoid before. 403 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:20,850 I said, "Kristen, you can talk to me." 404 00:23:20,850 --> 00:23:23,850 She said, "But you're not gonna understand." 405 00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:27,770 The closer it came to her coming up missing, 406 00:23:27,770 --> 00:23:30,350 the less she started coming around. 407 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,100 The last time I seen her, 408 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,560 she was in her room sleeping. 409 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,810 I woke her up, handed her some food. 410 00:23:42,810 --> 00:23:44,390 She said, "I'll be back, tootie," 411 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:46,560 and I ain't seen her since. 412 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:51,060 Next time I seen... 413 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:53,140 her face was on the news. 414 00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:57,310 Dead. 415 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,060 Just gone. 416 00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:02,310 [crying] Something I can't never replace. 417 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:05,140 Something I can't ever get back. 418 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:16,640 [Andrew] Kristen was a beautiful girl. 419 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,640 You know? 420 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,680 I don't know exactly 421 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,640 who started her... 422 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,430 her on... on-on the crack. 423 00:24:26,430 --> 00:24:29,430 Now, towards the end, 424 00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:32,310 I smoked crack with her, you know? 425 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,310 I know it's not really... 426 00:24:35,310 --> 00:24:38,390 It's a shame that I-I... you know? 427 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:40,680 But they were telling me, 428 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,770 "Why you don't tell her to quit?" 429 00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:44,350 You know? 430 00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:45,890 I said, "Well, it's kind of hard 431 00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:48,180 for one crackhead to try and tell another crackhead 432 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:49,680 not to smoke." 433 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,350 When I'm sitting here smoking. 434 00:24:52,350 --> 00:24:56,100 She got murdered when she was 21. 435 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:59,020 Of course at that time there, I was already incarcerated. 436 00:24:59,020 --> 00:25:00,640 I was locked up. 437 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,720 And she came to visit with my mom and daddy 438 00:25:03,730 --> 00:25:05,940 on a Saturday. 439 00:25:05,930 --> 00:25:09,600 And... 440 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,560 I can remember telling her 441 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,180 before she left the jail that day... 442 00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:18,220 to s-slow her... 443 00:25:18,220 --> 00:25:20,770 "You know, slow down, Kristen. 444 00:25:20,770 --> 00:25:23,060 Do Daddy a favor. 445 00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:24,560 Get off of that crack. 446 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,970 Quit it." 447 00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:27,940 I can still see her... 448 00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:30,310 waving in my daddy's... 449 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:33,560 You know, back seat of the car, waving bye. 450 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:48,640 [Hannah] I grew up with Kristen. 451 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,520 We were close as kids. 452 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,060 Our parents were real good friends. 453 00:25:55,060 --> 00:25:57,350 My father, he loved Kristen. 454 00:25:57,350 --> 00:26:00,930 You know, Kristen called him Uncle Billy. 455 00:26:00,930 --> 00:26:03,270 [sighs] 456 00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:06,770 We kinda grew apart as we grew older. 457 00:26:06,770 --> 00:26:09,770 She was in a... 458 00:26:09,770 --> 00:26:12,220 drug scene and hanging out with people 459 00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:16,100 that I hadn't advanced to yet, I guess you could say. 460 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:20,430 I was still just smoking weed and drinking. 461 00:26:20,430 --> 00:26:25,140 I didn't know until I was 18 462 00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:28,310 that my dad and Kristen's relationship 463 00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:31,890 was more than just her calling him "Uncle." 464 00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:34,720 I walked into my dad's house one day-- 465 00:26:34,730 --> 00:26:36,900 I was about 18 or 19-- 466 00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:39,560 and Kristen's running from his bedroom 467 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,560 to the bathroom in a T-shirt and underwear. 468 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,640 [interviewer] Did that anger you 469 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,930 that your father was having sex with Kristen? 470 00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:48,310 No. 471 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:50,560 It was just-- they're two consenting adults. 472 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,770 It didn't bother-- [chuckles] You know, it didn't bother me 473 00:26:52,770 --> 00:26:55,890 at all that they were having sex. 474 00:26:55,890 --> 00:26:58,140 That was just another thing. 475 00:26:58,140 --> 00:26:59,930 I think she was just embarrassed at it, 476 00:26:59,930 --> 00:27:01,810 'cause I used to pick on her. 477 00:27:01,810 --> 00:27:05,430 I used to tell her, uh... "What do you call him? 478 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:07,680 Do you say 'Ooh, Uncle Billy'?" 479 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,680 [laughs] 480 00:27:13,390 --> 00:27:15,520 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 481 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,520 ♪♪♪ 482 00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:26,890 Oh, my dad. 483 00:27:26,890 --> 00:27:29,020 My dad was an amazing man. 484 00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:33,930 Always happy, always trying to make people laugh. 485 00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:36,640 Always cutting up. 486 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,930 He was always my safe... my safe spot. 487 00:27:39,930 --> 00:27:41,520 You know, I was a daddy's girl. 488 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,430 He was always a safe place for me to go. 489 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:49,890 And I believe that 490 00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:52,430 a lot of these girls that... 491 00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:55,890 went to his house felt the same way, too, you know. 492 00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:59,600 I know many of the girls were in and out of his camper, 493 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,470 partying, you know, 494 00:28:01,470 --> 00:28:04,180 come and hang out, getting free drugs, 495 00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:07,430 because that's what the camper was known for. 496 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:09,890 If you're a woman, you can go sit in my dad's camper 497 00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:12,640 and get all the free drugs you wanted. 498 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,430 Just come and go as you please. 499 00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:17,520 Hang out in my dad's camper and Frankie'd be around. 500 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:24,470 Frankie is my uncle and my godfather. 501 00:28:25,850 --> 00:28:28,270 Uncle Frankie was, like, 502 00:28:28,270 --> 00:28:30,390 the guy you didn't mess with. 503 00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:33,430 You know, 504 00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:35,270 he took care of business, 505 00:28:35,270 --> 00:28:39,020 he was-- he was a badass back in his day. 506 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,020 A lot of the times, 507 00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:49,560 it was mostly family in there: me, Frankie. 508 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,430 You know, we'd all be hanging out in there. 509 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:52,890 People come and go. 510 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:54,520 [interviewer] Did you ever think 511 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680 that was odd that you were smoking crack with your dad? 512 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Yes, I did. 513 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,560 I always-- I thought it was... 514 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,100 It was odd that I was smoking crack with my father. 515 00:29:06,270 --> 00:29:08,520 He, um... 516 00:29:09,850 --> 00:29:11,850 He was a good guy. 517 00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:15,060 I'd like to think my father was a good guy. 518 00:29:20,390 --> 00:29:22,470 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 519 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:24,470 ♪♪♪ 520 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:34,060 [Scott] So now we're dealing with 521 00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:36,140 three unsolved murders. 522 00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:38,060 All of these murders being very similar, 523 00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:40,930 having a lot of similar characteristics. 524 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:44,470 Ricky Edwards... 525 00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:46,890 starts to-to link these girls 526 00:29:46,890 --> 00:29:49,810 as-as having run with some of the same crowd. 527 00:29:49,810 --> 00:29:51,430 But something kind of happens here 528 00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:52,970 that-that goes a little further. 529 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,360 Where before Loretta and Ernestine 530 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:57,350 were definitely linked with drugs, 531 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:59,020 Ricky Edwards goes a little bit further 532 00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:01,640 to talk about prostitution. 533 00:30:06,020 --> 00:30:08,850 This article comes out in the Jennings Daily News. 534 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,560 And Ricky Edwards made a statement saying 535 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,640 that these girls were living a "high-risk" lifestyle 536 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,020 and that this lifestyle, uh, contributed to their deaths. 537 00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:17,810 And matter of fact, he said, 538 00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:20,770 "If you're in this lifestyle, it's time to get out." 539 00:30:20,770 --> 00:30:23,640 And at the time, when the, when the term 540 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,140 "high-risk lifestyle" comes out, 541 00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:26,850 there's all of these connotations 542 00:30:26,850 --> 00:30:29,020 that suddenly spring to mind. 543 00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:33,180 Uh, e-especially the idea that-that these women 544 00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:36,220 have chosen this sort of lifestyle. 545 00:30:37,810 --> 00:30:42,640 The connotation is that they chose for this to happen. 546 00:30:44,890 --> 00:30:46,220 [Barb Ann] You know, I tried to take 547 00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:49,970 Kristen off the street several times. 548 00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:53,570 But drugs controlled this little girl. 549 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,720 Ricky Edwards telling the news that it's... 550 00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:58,610 their lifestyle's prostitution. 551 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,020 Well, yeah, let's just say that. 552 00:31:00,020 --> 00:31:01,350 That way the upper-scale people, 553 00:31:01,350 --> 00:31:02,850 you know, can look at you and say, 554 00:31:02,850 --> 00:31:04,890 "Oh, well, it's their fault." 555 00:31:07,390 --> 00:31:09,520 It's sad. 556 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,100 And that's no heart, you know, that's-that's no heart, 557 00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,020 except for-for yourself and your people, 558 00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:15,680 but who cares about everybody else? 559 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,430 There were girls again, south side of the track. 560 00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:24,770 Whores and prostitutes and crackheads. 561 00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:28,430 Mm. That's how they look at us. 562 00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:31,430 What did they do so wrong, so bad, 563 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:33,850 for them to be murdered? 564 00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:48,020 We used to, on Sundays, we used to come right here 565 00:31:48,020 --> 00:31:50,810 while my mom and Loretta and them was passed out, 566 00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:52,600 and I used to sneak my little sister 567 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,220 and them to church right here. 568 00:31:55,220 --> 00:31:58,270 Come on, Sophia. [kissing] 569 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:06,650 This is the house we was living in 570 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,140 the night I walked Loretta to the bar 571 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:11,890 and she gave me her purse and she-- 572 00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:13,430 I never seen her again. 573 00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:21,310 [sighs] 574 00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:23,430 She knew something was about to happen. 575 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:27,640 You know, something wasn't right. 576 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,140 You know. 577 00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:42,810 Every one of these houses right here, 578 00:32:42,810 --> 00:32:45,350 I guarantee you, the girls partied 579 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:47,970 in every single one of them. 580 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:53,020 I dream about the girls sometimes. 581 00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:54,600 Mainly Kristen. 582 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,220 Just them telling me that they're okay. 583 00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:59,720 The girls telling me that they're okay. 584 00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:03,070 Kristen came to me in a dream, told me she was okay, 585 00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:06,680 that everything was fine, and not to worry. 586 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,520 It's hard not to worry. 587 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,810 You don't know what to do in this town. 588 00:33:13,810 --> 00:33:15,850 [dog barking in distance] 589 00:33:15,850 --> 00:33:18,850 [train horn blows] 590 00:33:18,850 --> 00:33:21,180 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 591 00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:23,060 Jennings... 592 00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:28,390 ...basically, puts a curse on you. 593 00:33:28,390 --> 00:33:31,100 [chuckles] You can't never leave. 594 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,100 Y-You leave, and when you leave, 595 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,520 you come back. 596 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,020 I always said I wasn't coming back. 597 00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:40,890 I done came back 12 times. 598 00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:42,850 For real. 599 00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:48,400 Either you're gonna make it, 600 00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:51,970 or you're gonna fall into that grave. 601 00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:58,390 ♪ percussive music ♪ 602 00:33:58,390 --> 00:34:00,640 ♪♪♪ 603 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,310 [indistinct police radio chatter] 604 00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:05,720 [Cormier] On May the 12th of 2007, 605 00:34:05,730 --> 00:34:09,690 another body was located within Jeff Davis Parish. 606 00:34:20,430 --> 00:34:24,600 That victim was later identified as Whitnei Dubois. 607 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,720 Whitnei's body was located in this general area 608 00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:35,900 on Earl Duhon Road, which is just south of Bobby Road. 609 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:40,600 The difference that was noticed at first 610 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,930 was the fact that, with the other victims, 611 00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:44,600 they had been placed 612 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,470 in water, 613 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:49,810 and Whitnei had been placed on a roadway, 614 00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:52,850 totally nude and in a location 615 00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:55,720 that obviously would be located by somebody. 616 00:35:03,930 --> 00:35:06,220 Whitnei Dubois was like the other victims. 617 00:35:06,220 --> 00:35:09,560 Also somebody known to the area and was local, 618 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,970 also had association 619 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:15,440 with other girls in this circle. 620 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:19,110 Also known to some degree 621 00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:22,640 to have some connection to prostitution and drug usage. 622 00:35:27,730 --> 00:35:29,320 [Sonya] The day... 623 00:35:29,310 --> 00:35:31,680 that we found out 624 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,350 Whitnei was dead, 625 00:35:34,350 --> 00:35:38,850 I guess I thought, um, maybe it's not true. 626 00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:41,180 Uh, maybe... 627 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,060 um, maybe it's a mistake. 628 00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:46,930 And I said, 629 00:35:46,930 --> 00:35:49,020 "We-we need to find out what's going on." 630 00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:51,850 Um, where was she? 631 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:53,680 Um, who did this? 632 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,850 W-We don't know a whole lot. 633 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,060 I think I knew 634 00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:04,850 that Whitnei... 635 00:36:04,850 --> 00:36:08,140 would have sold her body, I guess. 636 00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:12,060 But... 637 00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,060 she was a kid to me. 638 00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:16,100 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 639 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,060 ♪♪♪ 640 00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:26,220 She was my little cousin. 641 00:36:26,220 --> 00:36:29,350 She wa-- I don't want 642 00:36:29,350 --> 00:36:32,220 to think of her that way. 643 00:36:34,770 --> 00:36:36,600 Whitnei was... 644 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,100 beat up. 645 00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,560 Her face wasn't recognizable. 646 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,640 She was found nude in the middle of the road. 647 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,470 It was s-some drug head that found her. 648 00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:53,520 Jamie Trahan. 649 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,140 The day Whitnei was found, I remember 650 00:36:57,140 --> 00:36:59,640 him being here, and him hugging me. 651 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,770 And me thinking, "W-W-Who is this guy? 652 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:06,930 And what does... And why is he here?" 653 00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:09,060 W-Why would I want him at my house? 654 00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:13,770 But at the time, you want all the information you can. 655 00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:15,640 But he didn't give us, 656 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,390 apparently, enough information, and I don't think 657 00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:21,270 he gave e-enough information to the cops. 658 00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:25,640 [wind whistling] 659 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,020 [Richard] Jamie Trahan claimed 660 00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:30,930 that he had found the body that morning. 661 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:34,310 But Jamie didn't find that body right when he did. 662 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:36,270 His-his story was false. 663 00:37:38,770 --> 00:37:41,810 I saw Whitnei's body that night. 664 00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:44,180 My ex-wife and I 665 00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:47,430 were celebrating our anniversary. 666 00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:52,390 We had rented a motel room and we were doing drugs. 667 00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:53,890 Jamie Trahan shows up 668 00:37:53,890 --> 00:37:55,180 at-at the hotel, 669 00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:56,390 which is my ex-wife's brother. 670 00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:58,640 And we smoked some more with him. 671 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,890 Jamie did a lot of things for Frankie Richard 672 00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:04,180 to get drugs, to get dope. 673 00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:07,020 Later, we take a ride. 674 00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:09,970 And Jamie started acting funny. It's like he had 675 00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:11,980 something on his mind, and he had a mission. 676 00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:15,900 As we're taking a ride, we turn 677 00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:18,680 off of Highway 102 onto Bobby Road. 678 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,350 And when we turn, Jamie makes a big, long, wide turn. 679 00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:25,850 I looked out, and I could see what appeared to be 680 00:38:25,850 --> 00:38:27,520 a body in the road, and I told him. 681 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,100 I said, "Jamie." I said, "There's a body. 682 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,390 We need to stop." He said, "Oh, no." 683 00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:31,680 He said, "That's a deer." 684 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,600 The body shone 685 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,390 off the h-headlights of the truck 686 00:38:35,390 --> 00:38:36,810 as he turned. 687 00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:38,850 It was in a... in a curled up position. 688 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:40,310 Like, her back was up, 689 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:42,640 and you could see, like, a sheen of wet. 690 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,600 And that's why I knew it wasn't a deer, 691 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,100 'cause a deer has hair. 692 00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,100 This was not a deer. It-it was a shiny body. 693 00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:51,640 And-and I argued with him for quite some time, 694 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,220 and we just continued forward. 695 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:55,180 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 696 00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:57,720 Later, he went back to the body, 697 00:38:57,730 --> 00:39:01,030 called the law, and told them he had just found it. 698 00:39:01,930 --> 00:39:04,390 Which was-- this was false. 699 00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:06,430 Jamie put that body there, 700 00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:08,060 if you ask me. 701 00:39:08,060 --> 00:39:11,060 Now, I don't know that for a fact, 702 00:39:11,060 --> 00:39:12,560 but he automatically turned wide 703 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,720 and went almost into the ditch to miss that body. 704 00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:16,030 He knew that body was there 705 00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,060 before he ever turned on that road. 706 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:55,640 [Cormier] We have been able to identify 707 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,930 through the investigation over the years 708 00:40:57,930 --> 00:41:02,390 a few people that... we have concerns about 709 00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:04,680 connected to this death. 710 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,100 And we would consider them persons of interest, 711 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,270 but we haven't publicly named anybody. 712 00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:12,350 There have been no arrests made 713 00:41:12,350 --> 00:41:15,180 connected to the death of Whitnei Dubois. 714 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,600 [Scott] So, with four bodies being found, 715 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,770 I mean, obviously, this is... 716 00:41:23,770 --> 00:41:25,140 We'd never seen anything 717 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:26,810 like this sort of situation. 718 00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:30,470 It's to the point now where I'm-I'm in the store, 719 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:33,520 people are stopping me, asking me questions about it. 720 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,560 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 721 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,310 ♪♪♪ 722 00:41:38,310 --> 00:41:40,350 [Roxanne] People were scared. 723 00:41:40,350 --> 00:41:42,640 People were scared because 724 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,930 the girls were being killed. 725 00:41:43,930 --> 00:41:47,720 They was just being thrown away like they was nothing. 726 00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:50,480 It was fucking crazy. 727 00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:53,180 When the bodies started... 728 00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:54,810 "Here's another one. 729 00:41:54,810 --> 00:41:56,890 Okay, here's another body. 730 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:59,100 Oh, my God, there's another body?" 731 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,430 It's fucking crazy. 732 00:42:00,430 --> 00:42:01,720 It's like... 733 00:42:01,730 --> 00:42:04,400 What the fuck is really going on in this town? 734 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:08,140 Is there just one person killing all these people? 735 00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:11,560 [Sonya] We didn't let our kids walk 736 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,600 to the grocery store anymore. 737 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,890 We didn't let our kids ride around the block 738 00:42:15,890 --> 00:42:18,270 on their bicycles anymore. 739 00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:21,680 It got to where you didn't trust anyone 740 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,220 because you didn't know 741 00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:27,020 if-if the person sitting next to you was a serial killer. 742 00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:29,100 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 743 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,100 ♪♪♪ 744 00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:35,310 Nobody in law enforcement 745 00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:38,890 wanted to say "serial killer" at the time. 746 00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:42,390 And we couldn't get callbacks from the cops. 747 00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:46,770 They-they wouldn't answer our questions. 748 00:42:46,770 --> 00:42:48,600 Did she get in a car with somebody? 749 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,270 How was she killed? 750 00:42:50,270 --> 00:42:52,310 We never... we never saw her body. 751 00:42:52,310 --> 00:42:56,180 It's like they didn't want us to know anything. 752 00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:57,850 At-at first, 753 00:42:57,850 --> 00:43:00,270 I figured, you know, they would do what was right 754 00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:02,770 and that they were gonna do the, you know, investigation. 755 00:43:02,770 --> 00:43:04,600 Do everything that they were supposed to do 756 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,640 the right way, you know. 757 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,060 And the people that we spoke to, 758 00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:08,930 you know, they sounded... 759 00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:13,350 like they were, you know, headstrong on figuring this out. 760 00:43:13,350 --> 00:43:15,720 But then they were all already trying 761 00:43:15,730 --> 00:43:18,110 to pass the buck off on their lifestyles. 762 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,640 Well, every time we'd try to call, 763 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,970 we'd call the-the sheriff, Ricky Edwards. 764 00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:24,780 He'd say, "Oh, we working on it. 765 00:43:24,770 --> 00:43:27,970 We working on it. Don't have no answers yet." 766 00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:29,780 [Cormier] As a homicide investigator, 767 00:43:29,770 --> 00:43:33,270 it's really hard not to have answers for family members. 768 00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:35,640 And they call you, 769 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,270 and you don't have answers for 'em. 770 00:43:40,270 --> 00:43:42,020 Lot of stuff that people have no idea 771 00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:44,890 how much work was done and what was done. 772 00:43:44,890 --> 00:43:46,470 We can't discuss all that. 773 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:48,390 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 774 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:50,270 ♪♪♪ 775 00:43:52,850 --> 00:43:54,930 [Andrew] When I was incarcerated, 776 00:43:54,930 --> 00:43:56,640 well, when they all come in, 777 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,640 they tell me to come to the office back there, 778 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,810 I knew... they was there to tell me somethin'. 779 00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:08,890 Well, it would happen 780 00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:10,560 they think they know who did it. 781 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,020 Bam! Arrest her. 782 00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:16,180 [Scott] Suddenly, 783 00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:19,430 right on the heels of Whitnei's body being discovered, 784 00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:21,520 the sheriff's department arrests two people 785 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,470 for Kristen's murder. 786 00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:27,430 [Hannah] I remember that day. 787 00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:28,930 It was... 788 00:44:28,930 --> 00:44:31,850 the scariest... 789 00:44:31,850 --> 00:44:35,430 most insane part of my life. 790 00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:37,720 I called one of the detectives to let him know, 791 00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:40,730 "Hey, look, I'm going out of state 792 00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:44,030 to my boyfriend's grandma's house. 793 00:44:44,020 --> 00:44:45,770 We're going on a little vacation. 794 00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:47,930 May not have service up there, 795 00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:50,890 but, uh, would it be okay if I called y'all 796 00:44:50,890 --> 00:44:53,770 when I get service to see if y'all have any updates?" 797 00:44:53,770 --> 00:44:57,060 And he was like, "Yeah, that's fine. Whatever." 798 00:44:57,060 --> 00:44:59,560 And next thing I knew, that same night, 799 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,390 he calls me on my cell phone. 800 00:45:01,390 --> 00:45:02,680 He's like, "Hannah, we're here. 801 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,020 Can you please come outside?" 802 00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:07,640 -Sorry. -[interviewer] That's okay. 803 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,680 It's okay. 804 00:45:11,730 --> 00:45:13,650 [sighs] 805 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,770 They arrested me for second-degree murder. 806 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,310 [Scott] The sheriff's department 807 00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:27,270 arrests Hannah Conner 808 00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:28,680 and her uncle, 809 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,770 Frankie Richard. 810 00:45:30,770 --> 00:45:32,220 [Cormier] Frankie Richard was somebody 811 00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:35,470 that most people knew to be involved in drugs, 812 00:45:35,470 --> 00:45:37,020 and had a very... 813 00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:38,270 violent past. 814 00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:41,390 [Richard] Thirty years ago, 815 00:45:41,390 --> 00:45:44,390 Frankie owned a lot of strip joints. 816 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:46,350 He had all these strippers working for him, uh, 817 00:45:46,350 --> 00:45:48,100 prostitutes, and he would bring them home 818 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:51,270 and brag about how he would trick them out for dope. 819 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:53,470 Frankie took pleasure in telling the stories 820 00:45:53,470 --> 00:45:56,810 of the things that he did to the people he did it to. 821 00:45:56,810 --> 00:45:59,600 Oh, no, there was no remorse in Frankie. 822 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,470 [Ivey] H-He, at one time, 823 00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:03,430 seemed to be involved 824 00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:06,600 in harming people if they need, you know, to be harmed. 825 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,270 He would do it for a fee. 826 00:46:12,220 --> 00:46:14,520 He's a... he's a person 827 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,970 that we had dealings with a lot 828 00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:19,530 in law enforcement. 829 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,720 Frankie said himself in interviews that he was... 830 00:46:22,730 --> 00:46:24,610 knew all of 'em, you know. 831 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,270 Partied with them. 832 00:46:27,220 --> 00:46:28,390 [Jessica] Basically, 833 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:32,560 Kristen, Loretta, Whitnei, they all 834 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,930 hung around with Frankie. 835 00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:36,100 Frankie sold drugs. 836 00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:38,020 If they couldn't get it from somebody, 837 00:46:38,020 --> 00:46:39,220 they got it from him. 838 00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:40,810 They would party together. 839 00:46:40,810 --> 00:46:42,600 They would hit licks together. 840 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,560 Kristen would go with him numerous times to hit licks. 841 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,390 As in tricks 842 00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:48,680 at the Budget Inn. 843 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,810 Frankie's scary. 844 00:46:50,810 --> 00:46:53,350 He's a very intimidating man. 845 00:46:53,350 --> 00:46:54,850 Police didn't immediately link Frankie 846 00:46:54,850 --> 00:46:56,520 to the-- any of the other murders, 847 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,310 though, even at that point, 848 00:46:58,310 --> 00:47:00,560 you were starting to hear rumors on the street 849 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,470 that Frankie had killed all these girls. 850 00:47:03,470 --> 00:47:05,680 [Nick] Guilty for-- if not for all of them, for some. 851 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,640 My sister. He put my sister in there. 852 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,970 I know he did. 853 00:47:08,980 --> 00:47:10,440 I want to get him to be locked up 854 00:47:10,430 --> 00:47:12,180 in that pen, that cell 855 00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:16,890 and let him do day for day for day. 856 00:47:16,890 --> 00:47:18,930 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 857 00:47:18,930 --> 00:47:20,970 ♪♪♪ 858 00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:29,680 [Scott] I think the quick arrest of Frankie and Hannah 859 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,220 went a long way to sort of quelling 860 00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:34,220 some of the fears in town. 861 00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:37,930 People think that this is over, and the general idea of fear, 862 00:47:37,930 --> 00:47:39,560 whatever there was, 863 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,140 just sort of subsides. 864 00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:45,100 [creatures chittering] 865 00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,100 ♪ suspenseful music ♪ 866 00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:48,640 ♪♪♪ 867 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,890 And then, suddenly, a couple of weeks later, 868 00:47:51,890 --> 00:47:55,060 Frankie and Hannah are cleared 869 00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:57,060 of any criminal charges in the case. 870 00:47:59,350 --> 00:48:02,600 But this is not something that was publicly known. 871 00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:06,930 It wasn't like a press release came out. 872 00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:10,720 Like, it happened very quietly. 873 00:48:12,310 --> 00:48:15,270 [Nick] They arrested him, had him in custody already, 874 00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:17,930 pinned the charge on him for murder, 875 00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:21,100 and then all charges are dropped. 876 00:48:22,310 --> 00:48:25,470 No one could understand why they did that. 877 00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:26,930 It just looked real bad. 878 00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:29,020 It doesn't make any sense. 879 00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:34,100 [panting] 880 00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:37,640 Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name. 881 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,560 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done 882 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,390 on Earth as it is in Heaven. 883 00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:43,640 Give us this day our daily bread 884 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,350 and forgive us our trespasses 885 00:48:45,350 --> 00:48:48,720 as we forgive those who trespass against us. 886 00:48:48,730 --> 00:48:50,780 And lead us not into temptation, 887 00:48:50,770 --> 00:48:53,100 but deliver us from evil. Amen. 888 00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:55,390 [sniffles] 889 00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:57,310 [Nick] We want to see justice. 890 00:48:57,310 --> 00:48:59,600 We want peace to be brought to the families. 891 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,600 To finally know 892 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,270 that they do care about what happens in this town. 893 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:08,970 Took my baby girl away. 894 00:49:08,980 --> 00:49:11,480 He killed her like an animal. 895 00:49:11,470 --> 00:49:15,140 Sheriff Ricky Edwards didn't step up to the plate 896 00:49:15,140 --> 00:49:17,890 when he should've stepped up to the plate. 897 00:49:17,890 --> 00:49:20,060 You had him locked up. 898 00:49:20,060 --> 00:49:22,430 But they turned him loose. 899 00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:26,770 But his name keeps coming back. 900 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,970 Frankie Richard, Frankie Richard. 901 00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:34,820 To this day, he's still a free man. 902 00:49:34,810 --> 00:49:37,350 You still see him around town. 903 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:40,180 Head up, he-he don't look like he's sorry for nothing, 904 00:49:40,180 --> 00:49:42,100 but I know he's guilty. 905 00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:45,850 Lord, promise me, when they die, 906 00:49:45,850 --> 00:49:48,970 they going to hell. 907 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,680 [Frankie] I did not... 908 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,430 have anything to do 909 00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:11,720 with any of them girls' death. 910 00:50:11,730 --> 00:50:16,150 These girls lost their lives 911 00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:20,350 because they seen something, 912 00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:22,180 heard something, 913 00:50:22,180 --> 00:50:27,020 knew something that they was not supposed to know. 914 00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:41,060 ♪♪ 65976

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