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[Nikki Haskell] I asked him, "Do you wanna
run for president?" He goes, "Yes."
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You know, some kids wanna be a fireman,
some people wanna be a doctor.
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Donald always wanted to be president.
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But he waited for the right time,
everything in life is timing.
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[crowd cheers]
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[Gene Okerlund]
Jam packed here in Atlantic City
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for WrestleMania Five at Trump Plaza.
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You could cut the electricity
with a knife.
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We’re going to take you down
to ring side for opening ceremonies.
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[male reporter] Thank you, Gene.
I’m joining Donald J. Trump.
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The illustrious Donald Trump.
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And, Mr. Trump, this is the second
WrestleMania you’ve hosted in a row.
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Can you give us some idea what an event
of this magnitude
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means not only to Atlantic City
but to the Trump Organization?
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Well, it's brought people from thousands
of miles away. It’s been fantastic.
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It’s been unbelievable, the traffic,
the numbers of people.
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We're really honored to be here
and honored that you folks joined us.
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-It’s a great honor.
-Well, thanks again for joining us.
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-Let’s go back to you, Gorilla. Thank you.
-Thank you.
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No holds barred, holy mackerel.
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Jesse, I believe
the Hulkster’s invading your territory.
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How dare him step into Hollywood,
Gorilla Monsoon.
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Let me tell you something Hulk Hogan.
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Hollywood is my domain, but I can see
why you're doing it.
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You’re doing it, Hogan, because you're
gonna lose to the Macho Man.
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And when you lose to him
you’re gonna have no job, Hulk Hogan.
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So, you’re gonna have
to come out to Hollywood
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try to invade my territory,
it ain’t big enough
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for the both of us, Hogan,
but if you want to come out,
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I’ll give Hogan a job in Hollywood.
He can drive my Limo.
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[male reporter 2]
As a professional wrestler
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he was known
as Jesse "The Body" Ventura.
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These days,
Ventura is trying a different role.
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I’ll accept the nomination for governor
right here at my old college,
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I think there is no better place
for me to do it, and again,
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we can win this election,
but it’s going to take
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every bit of work from every one of you.
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[male announcer] Cortina Motorsports
coverage of the Pace Motorsports
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Monster Truck challenge
from the Metrodome.
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Little Tiger, that’s a go.
Brian out of Coon Rapids, Minnesota.
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[crowd cheering]
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Yeah, I used to beat Hogan and now
I’m going to beat Humphrey and Coleman
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and all the rest of them.
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-Make me beautiful.
-[man chuckles]
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That’s what I need.
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Jesse was polling at about seven percent.
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Then we had two state-wide debates
in Minnesota in September.
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[sighs]
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Mr. Humphrey son of Hubert,
attorney general,
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Mr. Norm Coleman,
mayor of Saint Paul.
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Jesse "The Body" Ventura.
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What special skills and techniques
did you learn as a professional wrestler
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that would make you a good governor
for the State of Minnesota?
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First of all, you lead by example.
Jesse Ventura accepts no PAC money,
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whatsoever, Jesse Ventura is not owned
by special interest groups.
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My two opponents can’t say that.
They’re not leading by example.
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November 3rd is no longer an election,
it’s an auction to the highest bidder,
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and that’s what you have happening today
in the world of politics,
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with the professional politicians
from both parties.
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Trump had a good relationship with Jesse,
because Jesse had wrestled
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at the Trump Plaza Hotel.
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[Gregory] What began as a long shot
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third party, spoiler campaign
has turned into a serious threat.
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Ventura has been climbing steadily
in the polls now threatening to get
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as much as 20% of the vote here
in Minnesota.
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And his supporters maintain
momentum is on his side.
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He’s a straightforward guy,
he says what he wants.
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Even if people don’t like it,
he says what he means.
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Saying outrageous things even though
people may think it’s stupid to say...
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can work for you.
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Why don’t you get out of the way,
so I can go in?
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And every time he took on the press,
he got free media.
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By challenging the press
and calling them media jackals.
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I’m talking-- I’m talking to these kids.
Not you, I’m not talking to you.
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I could care less about you,
I’m talking to these young people.
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[crowd cheers]
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[Barkley] Obviously, Donald Trump
was following Jesse’s campaign.
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The one question I always had in the back
of my mind was,
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"But are they going to vote?
Are they going to take the time
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to come to the polls, register
and actually vote?"
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-How are you doing?
-[man] I'm good. How are you doing?
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Very good. Get out and vote November 3rd.
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We’re here with one of his supporters.
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What do you think
about the fact that Jesse has won?
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[crowd cheers]
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I’m very excited just like
everybody else here.
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It proves that Minnesota
was ready for a change here and we got it.
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Ask anyone here, any age,
and they'll tell you that they’re tired,
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-tired of the status quo.
-[crowd cheers]
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They want somebody who’s gonna be honest.
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And not wait until they find out
what the public thinks
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before they take a position on their own.
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It's 1998 and the American Dream
lives on in Minnesota.
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'Cause we shocked the world.
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[crowd cheers]
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[crowd chants] Jesse! Jesse! Jesse!
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[Barkley]
Donald came to Minnesota in 1999.
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He wanted to know what our strategy was,
what we did, how we got publicity.
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He wasn’t that interested
in particular issues, he wasn’t.
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He was just interested
in becoming president.
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[O'Brien] By the '90s...
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Donald had used bank loans
to go on a big buying binge.
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He got casinos, he got hotels,
he bid on large real estate projects,
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and in almost every case he either
overpaid or just didn’t do the math.
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And he essentially, I think,
entered this sort of wilderness period.
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He became a punchline in jokes.
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He was not considered
a major business figure.
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He was considered
a celebrity and entertainer.
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[applause]
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[TV show host] You have another
special guest here
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I'd like you to introduce at this time.
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-[Donald] I do indeed.
-I see her.
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My super model.
Where’s my super model?
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Melania.
This is Melania Knavs, stand up.
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[cheering]
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[Weiss] So, I went to a party for one
of the buildings,
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and Donald came in
with a dark-haired model,
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and I asked one of the men who I knew
from the Trump Organization,
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who she was, and he said,
"That’s, you know, the model of the week.
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You know, every week he has another one."
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[Melania] You know what?
I don’t see the age difference.
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First of all-- I don’t see it at all.
I don't know why, but I don't see it.
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Because maybe we are both so similar--
The same, you know he’s very young.
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-I mean, be honest, is it a turn-on?
-Yeah.
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-Yeah.
-Yes.
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-And he can keep that up? [laughs]
-He could keep it up, easily.
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[O'Brien] There’s this, you know,
sort of car crash-esque dynamic
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around Trump.
What crazy thing will he do next?
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Can we also get a picture
with you please?
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[Donald] Sure.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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[Weiss] Donald’s really a family guy.
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Um. He was very affected
by the death of his father.
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The funeral was held
at the church on 5th Avenue.
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It’s not that big a church,
but it was absolutely filled to capacity.
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[O'Brien]
Rather than really speak about his father
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and what his father
had achieved in life...
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Donald uses it as an occasion to speak
about his own business successes.
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How he wasn’t down.
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How he was gonna come back.
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[Bush] I wanna talk to you
about what’s on my heart
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and I intend to be brief.
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I’m gonna have a formal announcement
about my intention sometime this Fall.
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But I’ve come here
to tell you today this...
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I’m running for president
of the United States.
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There’s no turning back.
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And I intend to be the next
president of the United States.
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[crowd cheers]
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[Stone]
I was working out of Trump Tower.
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I had a small office working on a number
of issues for the Trump Organization.
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I am a political operative.
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I’m a veteran of ten
presidential candidates.
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I mean, what people don’t understand
in Washington
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is to be a presidential candidate,
you have to be universally known.
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Trump became universally known
through the pop culture.
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I thought he looked like a president.
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He really had no desire...
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but I was doing my best to persuade him.
I thought that he was up to it.
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Real estate developer Donald Trump says
he has eyes on a property
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in Washington DC
on Pennsylvania Avenue, Number 1600.
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Trump said today, he’s formed
an exploratory committee to decide
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whether to run for the Reform Party
presidential nomination.
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[Buchanan]
The Reform Party was a hodgepodge.
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It had libertarians in it,
it had hard leftists.
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It had cultural leftists
and traditional conservatives.
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Okay, one side please.
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This was a long, hard slog,
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and I didn’t think he was really
a serious candidate.
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[Stone] There’s a quality that you can’t
easily put in a box.
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[Stern] President Donald Trump
is on the phone.
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[man] Wow.
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[Stern] My theory is that Donald
is really not running for president.
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-[Donald] But I am having a good time.
-[Stern] Mr. President.
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[Donald laughs]
Well, you’ll have to endorse me, Howard.
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[Stern] Yes, sure I’ll endorse you.
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What else have I got to do?
Let me talk to that broad in your bed.
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-[Melania exclaims]
-[Donald] Do you want me to get her?
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[Stern] Let me talk to her.
I want to talk to her.
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What’s her name again? Melanie?
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-[Melania] Hello?
-[Stern] Hey.
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-[Melania] Hi, how are you?
-[Stern] You are so hot.
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-[Melania] Oh, thank you.
-[Stern] Let me ask you this.
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-What are you wearing right now?
-[Melania] Er... Not too much.
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-[Stern] Are you naked? Are you nude?
-[Melania laughs] Almost.
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[Stern gasps] Perfect and what do you do,
you go over there every night
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and you guys have sex?
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[Melania] That's true,
we have a great, great time.
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-[Stern] Every night you have sex?
-[Melania] Uh-huh.
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At our table this morning is Roger Stone.
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Long time involved in politics
at a national level.
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This year he's helping Donald Trump
in his bid for the White House.
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When Donald announced that Roger
was part of his campaign,
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I said, "That little rascal."
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I’ve just never cared a whole lot
for him because of his motivation
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which was strictly power. Power and money.
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[Stone] Mr. Trump has said he’ll make
a decision at the end of February.
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Here’s the fundamental question:
Is the pop culture in this country
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more influential now
than its institutions?
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Uh... We’re in a position here where
the voters are fed up with both parties.
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They’re looking for new choices,
and if the American people are presented
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a viable different choice
they may just take it.
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[female news anchor] Political observers
this morning are still wondering,
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what Donald Trump really wants.
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Is he running for president,
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or just getting his name
and face on television?
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I’m not happy with what’s happening
in the country, nobody else is either.
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The spirit, the whole thing, it’s gone.
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It’s terrible. And so, I’m just gonna look
at it. I’ll look at it very seriously.
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I love what I’m doing,
and having a lot of fun what I'm doing.
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But we will see what...
we will see.
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I have an impossible challenge
to take Donald Trump seriously.
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-You know, that’s why--
-Can you give me one reason why I should?
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[female reporter] One other question,
one other question,
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will you be willing to comment, Mr...
[groans]
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First of all, the Donald has a few plans
for that stodgy
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and outdated, old White House,
you understand?
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Gentlemen, I give you the Trump House.
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[audience laughs]
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That’s the snotty conventional wisdom.
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"He’s not really running." "Oh, yeah?"
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They want me first?
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Hi, everyone.
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Er... If you're not from Minnesota,
welcome to Minnesota.
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If you’re from Minnesota,
hello, good to see ya.
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Er...
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[Stone] My friend, Governor Jesse Ventura,
was then in office in Minnesota.
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Jesse ran against both parties.
No one thought he could win it.
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He was elected.
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...doesn't care for the cold weather
so, to get him here in Minnesota,
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cold weather is a...
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That was the reason we made a pilgrimage
to Minnesota where the governor met us.
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My candidacy was during a time
of great economic upswing,
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and I would say that right now
the key to the Reform Party,
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and the key to the Reform Party success,
is not...
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[Barkley] Donald wanted to do
what Jesse did in Minnesota nationwide.
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We all went up to a suite in the top
of the Northland Inn.
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He wanted to know what our strategy was,
what we did, how we got publicity.
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As I told him, people do not remember
what you say.
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They remember how you said it.
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Hold a rally, hold an event,
say some stupid things to get press.
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Tell people what you think.
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You know don’t give them pre-prescribed
what you think they wanna hear,
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because if they think
you’re telling them the truth,
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they’re gonna get excited
and they’ll support you.
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[Donald] Be paranoid.
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People... I just hate to say it.
It's terrible to say,
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but I’ll say it anyway.
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People tend to be very vicious.
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They will screw you whenever they can.
Isn’t it terrible?
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I mean, I really don’t know
what his core beliefs are, if he has 'em.
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I don’t. If I could tell you what
they are, I'd tell you, but stay tuned.
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Who thinks I should run for president?
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[cries]
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[male reporter] When the year 1999
turns to 2000,
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many computers and computer chips
around the world
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will think it’s 1900 not 2000.
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The systems will fail,
deliveries of fuel, electricity,
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all of those things are at risk.
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Because computers, bless their mindless,
little electronic hearts,
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will not operate with conflicting data.
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[O'Brien] Once the century tolled,
once we got into the 21st century,
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now it was the brave new world.
Now is the digital world.
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Well, we made it.
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The dire predictions of the last several
months dissolved
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in a potent mix of joy and celebration
all around the globe last night.
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And that dreaded bug... didn’t bite.
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[O'Brien] There’s a tremendous sense
of where do we go from here?
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This is a campaign that’s gonna empower
individuals to realize the American Dream.
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We don’t want anybody left behind
as we go into the 21st Century.
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[speaks Spanish]
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[Donald] Well, I think you really have to
base it on success.
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I've had very extraordinary success.
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I’ve done things that people really said
couldn’t be done.
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I don’t wanna get 21% or 22% of the vote
and then end up the following Wednesday
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back in my office at Trump Tower
saying, "Gee, that was wonderful,
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but you know, what does it all mean?"
It doesn’t mean anything.
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I will make that determination probably
by February, March something like that.
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And if I think I can win,
I might very well run.
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[Stone] During Donald’s exploration
of the Reform Party nomination,
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Patrick J. Buchanan,
the former Nixon speech writer,
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um, decided that he was going
to pursue the nomination.
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Today I'm declaring my intention
to seek the nomination
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of the Reform Party for the presidency
of the United States of America.
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[audience cheers]
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[Russert] Donald Trump,
welcome to Meet the Press.
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[Donald]
Well, thank you very much, Tim.
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Pat Buchanan is announcing that he will
be a candidate for the presidency
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-on the Reform Party.
-I just think it’s ridiculous.
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[Stone] Pat had just published a book
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and his critics said that
he was praising Adolf Hitler in the book.
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Look he’s a Hitler lover,
I guess he’s an anti-Semite.
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He doesn’t like the blacks,
he doesn’t like the gays.
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It’s just incredible that anybody
could embrace this guy.
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I urge the people in America to read
Pat Buchanan's words about Hitler.
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He calls Hitler "a monster,"
he calls him "evil."
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Now, I think that Donald Trump owes
Pat Buchanan and his family an apology.
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On the contrary, he heaps lavish praise
on him as a world leader...
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Pat’s a friend of mine.
I like him very much.
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And I encouraged him
to run for the nomination.
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Because in the back of my mind I said,
"Well, Trump needs somebody to beat."
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-Donald took to it like a duck to water.
-His views are so far off,
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and what he wrote in his book is so bad.
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He’s a happy warrior.
It puts him in a good mood.
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Anti-Semitic, anti-black, anti-gay,
almost anti-everything.
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Certainly, somebody should debate him.
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He won’t do very well.
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He’s got a certain group of little wacky
people on the very far right.
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[laughs]
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And I’m not even sure it’s the right,
they’re just wacky people.
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He-- I think he had the time of his life.
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I don’t think he’s gonna do very well.
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[laughs]
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Well, I think we, we did fine.
I think Donald eventually just...
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dropped out, didn’t he? [laughs]
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On Close Up this morning Donald Trump
after months of toying with the idea
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of running for president
on the Reform Party ticket,
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the billionaire real estate developer
has finally made a decision.
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I sat down with Donald Trump
and asked him what he's going to do.
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I will not be running.
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Not running for the nomination
of the Reform Party,
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or not considering any run
for the presidency this time around?
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Not considering a run.
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-Nothing can change your mind with that?
-No, no.
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-What’s the big lesson?
-I’ve learned the life of a politician.
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You know, the other night I was sitting
at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida,
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watching television and I was watching
Gore on a freezing evening
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knocking on a door saying,
"Hi, I’m the vice president,
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I’d love your vote," and he’s freezing.
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And I’m watching McCain and I’m watching
Bush and they’re all working so hard.
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And I said, "You know,
it’s not such an easy life they have,"
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as I’m sitting in, you know,
75-degree weather.
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Can you ever see yourself
working that hard?
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Uh. It’s a different kind of work.
I work up here.
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It’s a different kind of work,
but it's a real possibility.
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-We’re back to the flirtation here.
-Well, I always flirt.
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-Are you, or aren’t you?
-I know one thing,
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if I do, I’ll be back on your program.
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-Thanks. Good luck.
-Have a good time.
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[Laney] It’s my honor to introduce to you
a man who has earned my trust...
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my friend, the president-elect of
the United States,
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the Honorable George W. Bush.
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[audience cheers]
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[applause]
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-[applause]
-Thank you very much.
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Trump said to me, "You know, Rog,
you can only win as a Republican
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or a Democrat, the Independent thing
just not gonna work."
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He took a pass. It was a good decision.
He probably wasn’t ready.
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The country wasn’t ready.
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[male news anchor] We are having
some technical difficulties,
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which is totally understandable,
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when you try to do you know,
ad hoc reporting...
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...and getting information to you
as fast as we possibly can,
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and making sure that its accurate
at the same time. So...
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Donald Trump is on the line,
and we know him
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as the man behind lots of real estate
in Manhattan.
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And of course, Donald,
I understand you were actually
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a witness to what happened this morning.
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I have a window that looks directly
at the World Trade Center,
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and I saw this huge explosion.
I was with a group of people,
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and I really couldn’t even believe it.
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[woman screams] God, no!
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-[crowd screaming]
-[indistinct shouting]
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[woman 2] No!
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[indistinct shouting]
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[siren wails]
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[Donald] It’s just--
It’s an amazing thing. It's...
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This country is different today.
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And it’s going to be different than
it ever was for many years to come.
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[Jim] We are still very much
in the world of reality television,
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and we’re gonna take another turn,
and we’re gonna do it with Donald Trump
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and Mark Burnett the creator of Survivor.
Good morning, gentlemen.
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-Good morning.
-Good morning.
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First of all, Mr. Trump, I know
this is going to be a story
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about business, called The Apprentice.
Would I wanna work for you?
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-Er... Possibly not...
-[Jim laughs]
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...but you never know, Jim.
I mean, only if you wanna be rich.
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The fact is that we’re gonna be doing
a show that’s, I think, gonna be really,
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really exciting
and it’s gonna be very tough.
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It’s not gonna be a little,
lovey-dovey show.
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It’s gonna be tough.
And it's gonna show how tough
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the business world really is,
and I think the show’s gonna be great,
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and hopefully educational,
'cause I’m really into that.
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[O'Brien] I mean,
there were people lined up...
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around corners for Apprentice
casting calls.
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People were there all day.
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Donald Trump is a poor person’s
idea of what a rich person does.
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His apartment looks like it was designed
by, you know, Louis the 14th on acid.
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Gold leaf, marble, shiny things.
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[man] It's a little late.
We would probably start...
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[O'Brien] I was interested in doing a book
that tried to explain how The Apprentice
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redefined him in the imagination
of tens of millions of Americans
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that didn’t have a long memory
of the '80s and the early '90s.
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A new generation
of aspiring entrepreneurs.
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[indistinct chatter]
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How are we doing, fellas?
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I think this cannot be understated.
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His image is turbo charged
by The Apprentice.
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Think about it for a moment. Network TV...
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His makeup is perfect.
Every hair’s in place.
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He’s in the high back chair,
making decisions.
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-Sit down.
-Thank you, Mr. Trump.
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You’ve gotta be careful.
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-I will.
-'Cause you are a wild man.
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You’ll do great
or you’ll be a total disaster.
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I haven’t figured it out yet.
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[O'Brien] I was straightforward with him,
I told him I was considering
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writing a book about him,
I would like him to participate.
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I think I’d barely gotten
the sentence out of my mouth
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before he said,
"Sure. Of course, I’ll do that."
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This is at Mar-a-Lago after Donald
and Melania and I had had dinner.
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On this particular night after dinner,
he wanted to go out to the pool
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where people were having cocktails.
He doesn’t drink,
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but we went out
to the cocktail party by the pool.
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And he told the DJ to really turn
the music up as loud as he could.
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And he leans over
with these giant speakers
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blaring out rock music, and he said,
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"You know, when I came to Palm Beach
nobody wanted me here.
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Well, they know I’m here now.
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And I love to play this music
as loud as I can because I know
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that all of these snotty so-and-sos
who live in Palm Beach hate it."
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He has a constant need to be loved...
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and yearns for the establishment
to say, "You’re one of us."
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But I don’t think he’s someone,
who at that time or ever,
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was going to feel the establishment
accepted him.
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He’s deeply, deeply insecure...
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often in surprising ways.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[camera shutter clicking]
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[Weiss] He loved The Apprentice.
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When the ratings came out
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they were phenomenal,
went through the roof.
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He got great ratings.
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That was the show that everyone watched.
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[male photographer]
Seems like I've seen that before.
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[female photographer]
Right here, Mr. Trump. Right in front.
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-Ready?
-[female photographer] Ready.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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[Weiss] It was crazy.
The people absolutely loved him.
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They waited in line for hours.
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They wanted Donald.
They loved him.
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[female photographer 2]
Mr. Trump, this way please.
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[male photographer 2]
Up top, Governor.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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[O'Brien]
The Apprentice gave him a second chance.
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He suddenly became the center
of an American conversation
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about what is business success
and what is wealth.
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So, I don’t know, some people billing
this as the wedding of the century.
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I don’t know if I’d go that far,
but tell us a little bit
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about the Mar-a-Lago resort where
the festivities are gonna be taking place.
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He spent seven million dollars
on 24-karat gold sheets
453
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,560
that he encrusted in the walls
and the moldings and all this stuff.
454
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:07,640
He’s got gold piping’s in the bathrooms,
he’s got green apple onyx on the floors...
455
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800
[crowd cheers]
456
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,840
[Weiss] The invitation was, you know,
no cell phones, pagers, beepers.
457
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,400
They wanted privacy for the couple
and no other pictures coming out
458
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,480
because I guess they were sold
to People Magazine.
459
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,440
Anywhere you turned there was either
somebody from New York,
460
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,680
or a politician or an entertainer.
461
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,600
I saw Netanyahu. He was there,
and he met with them.
462
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,600
And Hillary and Bill, of course,
were there also at the time.
463
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,600
They were only too eager to be there.
464
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,920
[male reporter]
Congratulations, Randall.
465
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,080
-[female reporter] Congratulations.
-That's cool. Good for you.
466
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,800
So, what was it like for you to hear
those two beautiful words coming
467
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,040
from the Donald’s mouth
on live television.
468
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
I have to say, after hearing him say
"You’re fired" so many times over,
469
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600
to hear “You’re hired” was actually
a dream come true.
470
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,200
And an honor, an honor.
471
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,920
[Pinkett] I remember the day I arrived
at Trump Tower
472
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280
for my first day of my apprenticeship.
473
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Donald was seated at his desk
in his office at Trump Tower.
474
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,720
And he had this stack of magazines
and newspapers on his desk.
475
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,080
Each of them had a Post-it note,
a little yellow note inside of it.
476
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680
And he would grab one off of the stack,
and he’d put it on his desk,
477
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,880
and he’d open to the Post-it note
and he’d read.
478
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,560
And he’d close it and grab the next one
and I’m thinking, "What...
479
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,400
Is this current events? Is this stocks?"
480
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,160
So, I leaned over as he’s going
through this ritual,
481
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,760
and he didn’t stop it while we
were talking, he continued with it.
482
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,800
And I see that each of the Post-it notes
483
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,840
was placed in the magazine or newspaper
to an article about Donald.
484
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,160
That Donald was basically
reading about himself. [laughs]
485
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,280
And that someone’s job
is to gather up all these materials,
486
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,320
I suspect on a daily basis,
for Donald to read about Donald,
487
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,920
'cause Donald loves Donald. [laughs]
488
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:34,520
Donald runs the company with a very
tight-knit inner circle, very tight.
489
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Primarily his children.
490
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,080
[Donald] Don and Ivanka, you both went
to the Wharton School of Finance,
491
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,760
you were both terrific students,
492
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,960
why work for me?
Why not go someplace else?
493
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,000
I actually did go someplace else
for a year, and ultimately
494
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,120
sort of the sirens’ call of working
on your projects drew me back.
495
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,920
They're the sexiest projects out there,
the best projects out there.
496
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,240
And honestly you know being in this field
I couldn’t wanna work for anyone else.
497
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,760
What’s the best lesson
you’ve learned so far?
498
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Again, going through
the construction sites
499
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,520
and seeing what you see, and being able
to remember and then translate it,
500
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,600
when we’re on those sites ourselves
perhaps, without you has been totally
501
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,960
invaluable, and that’s really
the subtle intricacies
502
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,360
of what real estate is. The ability
to see what others can’t and create
503
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,760
what others don’t have the ability
to ever envision.
504
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,840
Thank you. Ivanka?
505
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,920
My response would have been
consistent with Don’s.
506
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,960
He trusts them, they trust him.
There’s a level of loyalty
507
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,480
that’s beyond just business,
but rather the blood relationship
508
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,440
that they have, and I believe
he looks to them really,
509
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,400
as among his most trusted confidantes.
510
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,280
For me, personally,
what I admire the most about you,
511
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,400
people say you’re a great marketer.
You’re great at putting
512
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,360
your name out there.
You’re a great brander...
513
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,480
[Pinkett] Ivanka seemed to be the one
who was most prominent...
514
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,200
amongst the children.
515
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,600
I think he... turns to the most.
516
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,080
Donald’s philosophy in business
is very adversarial.
517
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,040
He believes that, "For me to win,
somebody else has to lose."
518
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,320
The culture of the organization
very much reflects that.
519
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,080
In 20 years from now, may--
Who knows where I’ll be?
520
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Where do you think the Trump Organization
will be? And where will you be?
521
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,400
I think we will be right here
and the Trump Organization,
522
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,680
hopefully, will be everywhere,
globally, and we’ll continue to grow it.
523
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,160
Take what you made,
such a phenomenal brand,
524
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,760
and continue to extend that.
Really make it just a family company.
525
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,880
[female news anchor]
Good morning, everybody.
526
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640
More global worries over the possible
US recession.
527
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:39,640
Capitol Hill lawmakers
are preparing to hammer out
528
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:43,480
a US economic stimulus plan today.
While overseas markets
529
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,680
tumbled this morning for a second day.
530
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,360
[female reporter] How did this happen?
Some would say greed
531
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,040
and too much risk taking,
leaving many to wonder
532
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,840
whether Americans can trust the system
to keep their money safe.
533
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,280
[crowd cheers]
534
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,800
[Obama] Hello, Chicago.
535
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680
If there is anyone out there...
536
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,040
who still doubts that America is a place
where all things are possible.
537
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,840
Who still wonders if the dream
of our founders is alive in our time.
538
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680
Who still questions the power
of our democracy.
539
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,440
Tonight is your answer.
540
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,280
[crowd cheers]
541
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,320
[Van Susteren]
Donald, nice to have you join us.
542
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,040
And Donald we have a president-elect...
543
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,160
er... President-Elect Obama. He faces an
incredible challenge with this economy,
544
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,520
but what should he be doing right now?
545
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,960
[Donald] Well, this is a hell of a way
for him to celebrate his first day
546
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,520
with this massive, almost crash
of the stock market, so...
547
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,400
this is one hell of a welcoming.
548
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,680
Welcome to be president, Mr. President.
It's certainly, very exciting.
549
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,720
His speech was great last night.
The United States is not thought of
550
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,040
the way it once was,
and hopefully Obama, President Obama,
551
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,200
will do a great job and he will bring
that respect back, I hope so.
552
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:21,760
Thank you, God bless you and may God bless
the United States of America.
553
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,400
[Costanzo]
I’m Peter Constanzo, and in the mid-2000s
554
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,360
I was working as an online
marketing director
555
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,600
for a publishing company.
556
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,400
When the publishing company
I worked for had an opportunity
557
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,640
to publish a book by Donald Trump...
558
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
I kept being asked,
"What could we do different?"
559
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,280
What could we do that Mr. Trump
hasn’t done before?
560
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,160
Finally, tonight, "What are you doing?"
561
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:58,560
That simple, four-word question
562
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,800
has sparked a new internet phenomenon
called Twitter. Twitter is hot.
563
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:09,400
Twitter was really pretty new at the time,
so I explained it to him.
564
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,360
This was a way to directly communicate
to his fans.
565
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,760
At the time, it was not just gonna be
fans of the book
566
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,680
but fans of
the Celebrity Apprentice or anything.
567
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,120
I think that’s when he started to see.
568
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,240
"Oh, okay." And he sat there,
and he thought about it.
569
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,360
He said "I like it, I like it.
Let’s do it." And that was it.
570
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,720
[notification chime]
571
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,640
There were all kinds of things you know,
people just saying, you know, "Mr. Trump,
572
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,880
you’re the man," or you know,
"You’re the greatest business man ever."
573
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,120
You know, things like that.
574
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,560
[notification chime]
575
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,800
[notification chime]
576
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,840
[notification chime]
577
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,360
[notification chime]
578
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,840
But you could see that
there was this growing interest
579
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,480
in Mr. Trump running for president.
580
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,040
They're saying how they think
he’s a great business man.
581
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,080
And he would be great for the country
and could he please run for president.
582
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,400
[notification chime]
583
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Now people had a direct way
of letting him know they wanted
584
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,160
to see him try and go for this,
this new role.
585
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,120
People got comfortable using it
and now, all of a sudden,
586
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,720
people had this direct channel
with Donald Trump.
587
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,920
[notification chimes continue]
588
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,600
It just started to grow
and started to grow and grow.
589
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,640
I think he understood
there’s a power in that.
590
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,640
And... it can be dangerous
if you’re not thoughtful.
591
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,320
[male reporter] For several months,
592
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,040
the issue has been hotly debated
on internet blogs.
593
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,080
Does Barack Obama meet
the requirement in the constitution
594
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,640
that only a natural born citizen
is eligible to be president?
595
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,040
[female reporter] The birther conspiracy
movement essentially dovetails with...
596
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,640
some of the right-wing hatred of Obama
as president on the basis of his race.
597
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,080
This idea of his foreignness essentially
standing in for people’s discomfort
598
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,880
with the fact that he’s African American.
599
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,160
From the perspective
of the conspiracy theorist
600
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,200
it’s hard not to see
a racial element to this.
601
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,360
[Stone] Donald called me on a Friday...
602
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,520
and he said, "Have you read
about this stuff?" I said, "Yeah.
603
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,240
"I read most of it."
"What do you think?"
604
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,280
I said, "I don't know it’s interesting,
it’s certainly odd.
605
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,760
I’m not accusing the president
of anything."
606
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,360
There were just a lot
of odd factoids there.
607
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,200
[siren wails]
608
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,560
[Nunberg] First time I met Donald Trump,
I was five years old at WrestleMania Five.
609
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,720
[Gene Okerlund]
Jam packed here in Atlantic City
610
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,040
for WrestleMania Five at Trump Plaza.
611
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,160
You could cut the electricity
with a knife...
612
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,560
I’ll give Hogan a job in Hollywood,
he can drive my Limo.
613
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,640
[Nunberg]
We were sitting right behind Trump
614
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,800
and he had us moved to the first row
in another section.
615
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,680
And it was actually funny because
I ended up getting on the video
616
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,120
for WrestleMania with my father.
We were doing the Bush Wacker.
617
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,360
[announcer] The Bush Wacker!
618
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,640
[Monsoon] Well, they've got a style,
all of their own, Jesse.
619
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,240
[Ventura] You know--
Gorilla, I noticed you the other night
620
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,160
walking through the casino
looking like that...
621
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,800
[Nunberg]
Come 2011, he was going to speak
622
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,280
at the Conservative Political
Action Committee.
623
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:30,480
These are grassroots conservatives.
These are committed conservatives.
624
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,160
[male reporter] Are you here essentially
to be here on behalf of the group GOProud?
625
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,120
Or are you here for Donald Trump?
626
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,120
Are you here because you’re running
for president?
627
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,640
I’m here because I’m Donald Trump.
I was asked to be here.
628
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:46,000
I have a lot of respect for the group.
I’m a Republican. Let’s see what happens.
629
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,080
And there are a lot of people telling me.
"Why is he coming here?
630
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,680
Who wants him here? What a joke."
631
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,000
[audience cheers]
632
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,120
And he starts speaking.
633
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,400
And touched on the birth
certificate issue.
634
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,280
This was the first time,
I believe this was the first time
635
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,720
he talked about it publicly, for sure.
636
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,120
[applause]
637
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,600
Our current president came out of nowhere,
came out of nowhere.
638
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,640
In fact, I’ll go a step further.
The people that went to school with him,
639
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,360
they don’t even know-- They never saw him.
They don’t know who he is. Crazy.
640
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,320
[cheering and applause]
641
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,320
He’s a wonderful guy, he’s a nice man,
but there was no record,
642
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,160
nobody knew who the hell he was.
643
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,680
He’s now our president,
he’s our president.
644
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,320
[applause]
645
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,800
[cheering]
646
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,960
[indistinct chatter]
647
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,560
[Nunberg] After he left,
I called Roger up and I was like,
648
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,800
"Roger, I’ve never seen
anything like this."
649
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,120
Like there was real energy.
650
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,680
This was really amazing.
Like, I’d never seen something like this.
651
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,200
-Did they like it?
-They did.
652
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,840
-You got them going.
-You got them fired up, sir.
653
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,840
Okay. Bye, everybody.
654
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,960
I said to Roger, "Do you really think
he’s going to be interested in running?"
655
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,400
And Roger said "50/50".
656
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,040
[man 1] Do us a favor, please run
for president. Mr. Trump. Please.
657
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,240
-Please.
-[man 2] Please.
658
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,760
[Donald] Come here. Get a picture.
659
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Donald Trump is running first or second
in a lot of the early polls.
660
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,720
He is among the best-known names
in this country, in part,
661
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,240
because that name is all over the place,
on everything from buildings
662
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,360
to TV shows on this network.
663
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,920
I also pressed Trump
about the birther issue.
664
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,720
Which has gotten him
traction in the polls.
665
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,240
And he didn’t answer the question.
666
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,160
All this while he still says
he’s mulling an official run.
667
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,520
Trump is able through his celebrity
to give the whole issue broader exposure.
668
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,840
What is this
with the birth certificate obsession?
669
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,760
-Did he ask to see yours when you met him?
-Well, I needed to put mine anyway,
670
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,280
because if you wanna become
an American citizen you need to put
671
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,880
-the birth certificate.
-Right.
672
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,000
-I have a birth certificate from Slovenia.
-All right. Well, let’s talk
673
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,440
-about your jewelry.
-Yes.
674
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,200
All I want to do is see
this guy’s birth certificate.
675
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,520
[crowd cheers]
676
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:30,800
Trump hammers it. Now that’s very, very,
politically incorrect in the culture.
677
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,120
Trump zooms to number one
in the Gallup poll leading Mitt Romney.
678
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,120
I really believe
there’s a birth certificate.
679
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,760
Why-- Look she’s smiling.
Why doesn’t he show his birth certificate?
680
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,720
-You know what?
-No-one has ever asked George Bush
681
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,360
-or said to George Bush, why--
-No.
682
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,520
But George Bush was born in this country.
683
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,200
[Goldberg]
It’s not 'cause he’s black, is it?
684
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,240
Let him show--
It has nothing to do with that.
685
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,160
Okay, because I never heard any
white president asked to be shown
686
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:00,840
-the birth certificate.
-[Donald] Everybody does.
687
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,240
When you become a President
of the United States of America...
688
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,320
[applause]
689
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,040
...you know that he’s American.
I’m sorry that’s BS.
690
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,160
[crowd cheers]
691
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,920
[Stone] The elites may not like it...
692
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,240
but the voters of the Republican Party
sure like it.
693
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,640
[male news anchor]
Earlier this morning,
694
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,480
the White House released
President Obama’s long-form
695
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,600
birth certificate in order to quiet
his critics, he said he wanted America
696
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,640
to stop being distracted and he went
to the White House briefing room
697
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,200
just moments ago to address the issue.
698
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,080
I know that there’s going to be a segment
of people for which,
699
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,160
no matter what we put out,
700
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,440
this issue will not be put to rest.
701
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,680
But I’m speaking to the vast majority
of the American people.
702
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,520
We do not have time for this kind
of silliness.
703
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,080
We’ve got better stuff to do.
704
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:57,040
I’ve got better stuff to do.
705
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,480
We’ve got big problems to solve.
706
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,720
And I’m confident we can solve them,
but we’re going to have to focus on them.
707
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,200
Not on this. Thanks very much, everybody.
708
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,320
[male reporter] Mr. President,
should Republicans-- Republican...
709
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:27,200
I was just informed,
while on the helicopter,
710
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:33,280
that our president
has finally released a birth certificate.
711
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200
I'd want to look at it,
but I hope it’s true.
712
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,960
So, that we can get on too much
more important matters.
713
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:47,240
We can talk about China ripping off
this country, we can talk about OPEC
714
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,960
doing numbers on us like nobody
has ever done before.
715
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:55,480
We can get on to issues, and hopefully
when I sit down with interviews,
716
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,040
people don’t start talking
about birth certificates,
717
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,280
birth certificates,
like they’ve been doing.
718
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:07,080
So, I feel I’ve accomplished
something really, really important.
719
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,720
[Rivera]
The last day of April, 2011.
720
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,000
Saturday night.
721
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,000
In the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
722
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,360
I was sitting right there
at the head table.
723
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,640
[Nunberg] Donald Trump won
the birth certificate issue.
724
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,840
But pop culture, they loved Barack Obama.
Barack Obama is a great idea to them.
725
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,160
He’s a great president.
726
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,920
You know, and Trump really gave it to him.
727
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,480
I talked to him that day he’s like
"What do you think about it?" and I said,
728
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,800
"Look, you’re getting
good publicity here, you know.
729
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,960
We’ve got AP, we’ve got Reuters,
we’ve got CBS.
730
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,600
We’ve got all these new stories."
731
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,160
But there was a period there behind
the scenes where he was apprehensive.
732
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,800
[Obama] My fellow Americans...
733
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,320
[audience cheers]
734
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:29,280
Mahalo.
735
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,000
[laughter]
736
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,080
[chuckles]
737
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,080
It is wonderful to be here
at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
738
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,440
What a week.
739
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,160
[laughter]
740
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,680
As some of you heard,
the state of Hawaii released...
741
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,360
my official long-form birth certificate.
742
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,640
But no one is happier, no one is prouder
to put this birth certificate matter
743
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,320
to rest than the Donald.
744
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,960
[laughter]
745
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,000
And that’s because he can finally
get back to focusing
746
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,960
on the issues that matter.
747
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,280
Like... did we fake the moon landing?
748
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,400
[laughter]
749
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,400
What really happened in Roswell?
750
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,960
[laughter]
751
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,200
And where are Biggie and Tupac?
752
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,680
[laughter and applause]
753
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:38,800
All kidding aside, obviously,
we all know about your credentials
754
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,240
and breadth of experience.
755
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,840
-[Nunberg] That was raw.
-[Obama] No, seriously just recently
756
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,280
in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice,
at the steakhouse...
757
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,920
[Nunberg] Deeply hurtful to Donald Trump.
758
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,320
[Obama] ...team...
759
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,080
-[Nunberg] Hugely embarrassing.
-[Obama] So, ultimately, you didn’t blame
760
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,400
Lil John, or Meatloaf...
761
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,960
[laughter]
762
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,680
You fired Gary Busey.
763
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,760
[laughter]
764
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,520
And these are the kind of decisions
that would keep me up at night.
765
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,680
[laughter]
766
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,720
Say what you will about Mr. Trump.
767
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,600
He certainly would bring some change
to the White House.
768
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,160
See what we got up there.
769
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,960
[laughter]
770
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,160
[Nunberg]
Didn’t say a word. He left early.
771
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,280
The people in that room
at the White House Correspondents' Dinner
772
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,520
were making fun of Donald Trump.
773
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,040
I believe, really, this was the night...
774
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,920
that set him on the path
to the presidency.
775
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,520
CNN projects that Barrack Obama
776
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,680
will be re-elected
President of the United States.
777
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,920
He will remain in the White House
for another four years,
778
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,360
because we project
he will carry the state of Ohio.
779
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,120
[Romney]
I have just called President Obama
780
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,640
to congratulate him on his victory.
781
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,400
His supporters and his campaign
also deserve congratulations.
782
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,960
I wish all of them well, but particularly
the president, the first lady,
783
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,160
and their daughters.
784
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,480
[audience cheers]
785
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,880
Trump would say, "What’s wrong
with this guy? He’s just not a fighter.
786
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,320
He just has no instinct
for the jugular."
787
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,960
[Romney]
Thank you so much. Thank you.
788
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:45,000
[Stone] Almost immediately after
the election, in which Romney loses,
789
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,720
Donald has his lawyers go
to the US Trade Mark Office
790
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,280
and he trademarks the phrase
"Make America Great Again."
791
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,840
And he says, "And this time
nothing’s going to stop me.
792
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,880
This time we’re really doing it."
And I said, "Well, it’s four years away."
793
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,960
He says, "You’ll see."
794
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,520
[indistinct chatter]
795
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,840
How’s this? Good? Come on, you’re fired.
796
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,960
[female reporter] Right, just tell me
when you are up to him.
797
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,200
Well, we’re opening this great club house,
as you know, it’s been--
798
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,160
[cameraman] Not yet.
799
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:22,760
[female reporter]
Okay, let’s just start that again.
800
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,360
[cameraman]
Mr. Trump, just bring your left shoulder
801
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,400
-into me slightly.
-Left?
802
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,440
-[cameraman] Yeah.
-This way?
803
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,920
[cameraman] Yeah. Wee bit more.
804
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,960
Wee bit, no just turn your left shoulder
into me, please.
805
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,560
Okay, come on, let’s go.
806
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,320
[reporter] You’re going to make
an announcement on June 16th
807
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,120
about potentially running for president.
808
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,800
Can you give us a glimpse, a sneak peak
into what that might be?
809
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,880
That was so beautifully put.
You did such a good job with that.
810
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Well, I will.
811
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,320
I will be announcing something
on June 16th at Trump Tower in New York,
812
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,120
and I think people are going to be
very, very happy
813
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,280
with that announcement,
because the United States
814
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,280
is not doing well,
and it should be doing...
815
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,480
[Stone] He called from Europe and he said,
"Put the announcement on hold,
816
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,200
I’m not sure I’m going to do it."
817
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,560
[Nunberg] We didn’t have time for
Donald Trump’s perennial teasing bullshit.
818
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,200
He was getting some cold feet.
819
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,840
He had a lot more on the line
than anybody else did.
820
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,720
All these big politicians--
They need to do is they run.
821
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,680
Right? They raise other people’s money.
822
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,400
They do this. This is what they do.
823
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,720
[applause]
824
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,680
[reporter] Just really quickly just--
Thanks very much.
825
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:41,400
[Stone] Trump is now 70 years old.
This would most likely be his last shot...
826
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,800
-[cameraman] ...Lucy, that'll be great.
-Okay, go ahead.
827
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,600
[Stone] ...if he decided that he was going
to pursue the nomination.
828
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,120
Is that okay, no? Did you get enough?
829
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,400
[Stone] We had gone round and round
about the date of his announcement.
830
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,840
The content of what he was going to say,
831
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,800
what broad themes he was going to
lay out in his campaign...
832
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,720
was entirely up to him.
833
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,760
[Nunberg] Twitter was our focus group.
Twitter.
834
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,560
It really was, it was a-- If he got--
835
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,600
I would look at the amount
of retweets he got
836
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:20,840
and he would see the issue.
837
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,640
If the issue was popular.
So, if you look at the policy--
838
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,240
political policy things,
my barometer was over 100 retweets.
839
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,920
If that was 100 retweets it was an issue
that we were winning on.
840
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
They said, "What if we propose that
he says what I’m going to build a wall
841
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,360
at the border
and I’ll get Mexico to pay for it?"
842
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,000
It’ll be like a licensing deal,
and nobody builds like Trump.
843
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,240
So, I told it to Roger.
844
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,200
And Roger called up Trump
and Trump loved it.
845
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,800
Started saying, "I’ll build a wall."
846
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,680
You know, "We’ll build a wall."
And that’s how the wall came about.
847
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:02,960
[notification chime]
848
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,760
[reporters clamoring]
849
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,520
[male reporter]
Are you going to run for president?
850
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,040
[man] Please run.
I’ll support you all day.
851
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,920
You are the truth,
you are the golden era...
852
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:25,080
For the elites who cover politics,
it’s obvious when Donald Trump
853
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:31,200
flirts with running for president
in 1988, or 2000, or even 2012.
854
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,120
He’s never really going to run.
855
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:35,800
If I couldn’t win,
if I felt I couldn’t win I wouldn’t run.
856
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,400
I absolutely would not run.
857
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,480
They said, "It’s a publicity stunt.
He’s only doing it to burnish his brand."
858
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,480
I’m really only going to do this,
Tim, if I can win.
859
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,960
In fact, how many times can he recycle
this same idea
860
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,480
that he’s going to run for president,
when we all know he isn’t.
861
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,720
And if I think I can win,
I might very well run.
862
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,000
What happened to those people
that said that?
863
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,760
-[female reporter] Are you going to run?
-We’re looking at it very seriously.
864
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,440
[Donald] Ladies and gentlemen.
865
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,160
I am officially running...
866
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,520
[crowd cheers]
867
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,320
...for president of the United States.
868
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:32,040
And we are going to make
our country great again.
869
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:38,040
The world laughs at us.
870
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,160
They won’t be laughing if I’m president.
77948
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