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Narrator:
A rash of home invasions...
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[ two gunshots ]
-[ woman screams ]
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...Results
In cold-blooded murder.
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You can't even write a movie
Script good enough for this.
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-[ sobbing ]
-no! That's my baby! No!
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It's like you're living in your
Own little fairy tale dream,
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And here comes the big bad wolf
And blows in your door.
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Narrator: detective rod demery
Must help an untested rookie
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Put the pieces together.
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I just didn't believe
In impossible homicides.
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Rule number one --
We don't assume anything.
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Narrator:
Their investigation reveals
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A shocking
Miscarriage of justice.
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Are you kidding me?
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Demery:
At this point, I realized
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That this man should not
Be in jail.
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He needs to get out immediately.
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♪♪
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Don't move!
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Come on.
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[ gunshot ]
-[ woman screams ]
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♪♪
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Demery:
Murder and me, we go way back.
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When I was a child,
Murder took my mother.
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Years later,
It came for my brother.
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That's when I found
My mission in life.
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Every case I worked, I solved.
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Every case I solved,
I got a confession.
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I'm detective rod demery.
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I didn't choose murder.
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Murder chose me.
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Captions paid for by
Discovery communications
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♪♪
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Mack: it's march 14th,
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And joe rogerson is
Walking home from work
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In the highland neighborhood
Of shreveport.
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He has no car,
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And he gets off at an hour
Where there's no sunlight.
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[ two gunshots ]
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He hears two shots...
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-what was that?
[ cellphone beeps ]
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...And he kind of stops
In his tracks
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Because they're close
To where he lives.
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Female dispatcher:
9-1-1, what's your emergency?
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Yes. Hi. I want to report
Gunfire in my neighborhood.
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Okay.
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I'm not sure where it came from.
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Sir?
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[ grunts, groans ]
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Mack: about that time,
He sees his neighbor,
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Delon williams,
Come stumbling out of his house.
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♪♪
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9-1-1, I need your address.
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Mack:
And he's obviously been shot.
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It is something that he will
Never ever be able
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To erase from his mind.
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♪♪
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It's all yours, clark.
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You won't solve it, but at least
You'll get your feet wet.
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Oh, I think I can
Handle it, sir.
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This isn't patrol.
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Homicide's a whole different
Ball game.
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Yeah. I'm ready for it.
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We'll see.
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Hey, sarge.
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Demery, make sure that rookie
Knows what the hell he's doing.
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Yes, sir.
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What's up, clark?
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Figured we'd be seeing you
Here before too long.
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Well, I've been
Looking forward to it.
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Summer 2011, we'd gotten a new
Rookie detective, maurice clark.
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He was ambitious
And he was kind of cocky,
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And I think that that's required
To be a good homicide detective.
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-so what you got?
-[ chuckles ]
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Sarge just gave the kid
His first homicide.
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Yeah? [ chuckles ]
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You got old delon williams.
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Did you work this case?
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Brother,
If I worked the case,
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You think it'd be sitting
On your desk?
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Demery: the victim was
Delon williams.
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The case had been open
For a while.
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I didn't know much
About the homicide,
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But I knew it wasn't solved.
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It's what we call
An impossible homicide.
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I just didn't believe
In impossible homicides.
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I think that's just not enough
Dedication by the detective.
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Hey, I gotta go to court.
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Good luck, though.
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Oh, I don't need luck.
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Yeah. We'll see.
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Demery: clark was excited.
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It was his first homicide,
So he had a positive attitude.
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I liked that about him.
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♪♪
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Hey, clark.
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What are you still doing here?
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I am lost.
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Can I get your opinion
On something?
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-yeah. Sure.
-yeah?
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What do you got going on?
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The fact that that he humbled
Himself enough to ask questions
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And want to get guidance
Was a very good sign.
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Delon williams was a victim
Of home invasion...
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Mm-hmm.
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...Took a shot to the chest,
Died a short while later.
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Okay.
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But he made a statement
To police.
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The victim reported that two
Male blacks entered his house
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At gunpoint,
Attempting to rob him.
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He said the men were masked.
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-where the money at?
-I ain't got nothing!
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[ two gunshots ]
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For whatever reason,
One of them fired a shot.
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Was he able to identify
The people who shot him?
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No.
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Any evidence recovered?
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They found a 9-mm shell.
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That's it?
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I mean, they said there was
A strong smell of marijuana
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In the house, but...
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The report kind of surmised that
It was some sort of drug rip.
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So you're thinking your vic
May be a drug dealer?
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Yeah. No. I mean...
I don't know.
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-well...
-I-I don't -- I don't --
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Hey, hey, I'll tell you this --
Rule number one
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Of homicide investigations --
We don't assume anything.
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Exactly.
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You're talking about a murderer.
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There's not a lot of room
For assumptions or error.
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All right.
So listen to this.
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All right?
I did some digging.
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-mm-hmm.
-all right?
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There was another home invasion
In the same area
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2 hours before
The delon williams shooting.
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Mack:
Natasha gray had experienced
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A home invasion of her own.
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It was pretty similar.
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Can you tell me
What happened?
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I was folding my laundry.
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♪♪
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[ door rattles ]
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♪♪
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-[ screams ]
-man: where the money at, huh?!
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These masked men
Broke into her home,
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Beat her to a...Living...Pulp.
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Almost unrecognizable.
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They demanded her keys
To her car, cash,
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And then they stole her purse.
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I'm thinking they're connected.
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Could be.
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The fact that two
Home invasions are done
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Within hours of each other,
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Same sort of method
Of operation,
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Or m.O., is pretty noteworthy.
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There's more.
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The following day, there was
Another home invasion
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Couple blocks away
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On rightway avenue,
Same sort of situation.
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♪♪
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Lisa, y'all let me know
When it start now.
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Don't watch anything without me.
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[ kernels popping ]
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I can remember my little girl
And my mom were watching tv.
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-I was cooking.
-[ screaming ]
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I'm hearing my daughter scream,
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And as soon as I get
To the hallway...
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-what's the matter?
-man: don't even try!
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...I noticed a guy
Standing there,
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And he's got this pistol
In my face.
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Sit your ass down.
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Thomas: he got this gun
In my baby face.
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She's only 11 years old.
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Now where the money at, huh?
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I want the money, so give it up!There is no money!
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Tell us where it is,
Or she going to die!
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-no, don't!
-don't shoot my baby!
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I'm wanting to get him
Away from her.
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At the same time,
My mom was pulling me back.
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[ sobbing ]
Don't hurt my baby!
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All right then.
I'll shut you up instead.
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-no!
[ gunshot ]
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I could feel the gunpowder
Popping off of the bullets
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Out the gun,
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And I can feel the heat,
But I'm not getting hit.
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-mommy!
-come on, man. Grab this stuff.
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-come on. Let's go. Hurry up!
-don't move!
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-hurry up! Go!
-don't move! Don't move!
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Thomas: they took my laptop.
They took our cellphone.
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They took my little girl's
Piggy bank.
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I had just bought her a necklace
And some earrings.
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They took that.
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-[ gags]
-mom?
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I tried to get up,
And I just couldn't move.
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[ whispers, gasps ]
Call an ambulance.
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[ gasping ]
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So by the grace of god,
I made it through that.
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So hear me out here.
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They found a 9-mm
Shell casing at the scene.
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Mm-hmm.
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They got it down
To the lab, and...
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It was an exact, exact match
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To the delon williams
Shell casing.
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Huh.
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The likelihood of those
Two crimes being committed
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By different people
Using the same weapon
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Are probably slim to none.
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What's
The common thread here?
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Why break into those
Specific homes?
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It doesn't make any sense.
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Okay, think of this.
It's march, right?
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Yeah.
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But these are
Working people, man.
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They're getting
Their income tax checks
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And they're cashing them,
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And somebody knows that
They've got cash in the house.
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In a low-income,
High-crime neighborhood,
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When people start getting money
And make big-ticket purchases,
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They become a victim.
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I had bought this big old tv,
And maybe they were thinking
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That I had money
In the house or something.
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Now let me ask you this.
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Did they ever charge somebody
With the thomas shooting?
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Uh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh...
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This guy -- 22-year-old
Demario johnson.
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Okay. He cop to it?
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[ sighs ] No. No.
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They, uh, they got his name
From a c.I.,
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And when the detectives
Went to interview him,
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He, uh...
Well, he flipped out.
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In the sandra thomas
Home invasion,
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I was the lead investigator.
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During the interview, demario
Became very upset, belligerent.
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He lunged at my partner,
And so, at that point,
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I shut the interview down.
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So they never got around
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To asking him about
The williams shooting?
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Definitely not.
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Can I see that?
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The confusion I'm having
At this point
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Is why the man who was arrested
For the thomas home invasion
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Wasn't arrested for
The delon williams homicide.
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It just seems obvious.
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♪♪
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Hmm?
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This case is
Exceptionally cleared.
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I don't follow.
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There is a classification
Called "Exceptionally cleared,"
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Which means that you have
Identified the suspect.
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You just don't feel that
Prosecution would work
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Because of whatever reason.
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So when I see
That classification
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At the end of the report,
255
00:10:30,172 --> 00:10:33,000
I realize that they're just
Going through the motions.
256
00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,448
♪♪
257
00:10:38,448 --> 00:10:41,310
Just call the e.M.T.S.
Don't call us out for this.
258
00:10:41,310 --> 00:10:42,758
I'm not going to lose
Any sleep over it.
259
00:10:42,758 --> 00:10:45,275
-are you? [ laughs ]
-[ speaks indistinctly ]
260
00:10:45,275 --> 00:10:48,551
They've decided
That the williams victim
261
00:10:48,551 --> 00:10:49,931
Was a drug dealer.
262
00:10:49,931 --> 00:10:52,758
It was a justification
To simply close the murder
263
00:10:52,758 --> 00:10:56,000
Without actually
Closing the murder.
264
00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,689
This is unbelievable, man,
Exceptionally cleared.
265
00:10:58,689 --> 00:11:00,896
♪♪
266
00:11:00,896 --> 00:11:03,034
You mind if I hop on this
With you?
267
00:11:03,034 --> 00:11:04,793
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I mean, yeah.
268
00:11:04,793 --> 00:11:06,413
Absolutely, of course.
269
00:11:06,413 --> 00:11:10,103
-get your stuff.
-okay. Where we going?
270
00:11:10,103 --> 00:11:13,758
I'm gonna show you
How to close a homicide case.
271
00:11:13,758 --> 00:11:16,068
♪♪
272
00:11:21,206 --> 00:11:31,172
♪♪
273
00:11:31,172 --> 00:11:33,137
Me and my rookie investigator,
Maurice clark,
274
00:11:33,137 --> 00:11:36,379
Are investigating
The homicide of delon williams.
275
00:11:36,379 --> 00:11:39,551
I just learned that the shell
Casing in delon williams' murder
276
00:11:39,551 --> 00:11:42,000
Matched the shell casing
In a home invasion
277
00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000
Where sandra thomas was
Shot the following day.
278
00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,689
[ two gunshots ]
-[ woman screams ]
279
00:11:46,689 --> 00:11:48,103
[ whispers ]
Call an ambulance.
280
00:11:48,103 --> 00:11:51,241
Now we're about to interview
A suspect, demario johnson,
281
00:11:51,241 --> 00:11:53,793
Who's sitting in jail
Awaiting trial
282
00:11:53,793 --> 00:11:55,586
On the home invasion of thomas.
283
00:11:55,586 --> 00:11:57,862
♪♪
284
00:11:57,862 --> 00:12:00,896
All right, so remember,
In an interrogation,
285
00:12:00,896 --> 00:12:02,344
Know who you're talking to.
286
00:12:02,344 --> 00:12:03,344
Okay. Yeah.
287
00:12:03,344 --> 00:12:05,517
So what do we know
About demario?
288
00:12:05,517 --> 00:12:07,862
Well,
He's extremely volatility.
289
00:12:07,862 --> 00:12:10,413
Exactly, so what we need to do
Is not provoke him
290
00:12:10,413 --> 00:12:11,758
And keep him on our side.
291
00:12:11,758 --> 00:12:14,655
Otherwise, it'll ruin
The interview.
292
00:12:14,655 --> 00:12:17,793
So when we get inside,
You just follow my lead.
293
00:12:17,793 --> 00:12:20,034
-absolutely.
-okay. Let's do this.
294
00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:28,000
Hey.
What's going on, man?
295
00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:35,275
♪♪
296
00:12:35,275 --> 00:12:38,620
[ buzzer ]
297
00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:47,655
♪♪
298
00:12:47,655 --> 00:12:54,724
♪♪
299
00:12:54,724 --> 00:12:58,068
What's happening, demario?
300
00:12:58,068 --> 00:13:00,931
Detective demery. This is
My partner, detective clark.
301
00:13:00,931 --> 00:13:02,724
We're with the shreveport
Police department.
302
00:13:02,724 --> 00:13:05,103
All right, we need to ask you
A few questions.
303
00:13:05,103 --> 00:13:06,379
It's about time, man.
304
00:13:06,379 --> 00:13:09,586
Ain't nobody said nothing to me
For months.
305
00:13:09,586 --> 00:13:10,896
When I meet johnson,
306
00:13:10,896 --> 00:13:12,896
I realize that he's
Not aggressive at this point.
307
00:13:12,896 --> 00:13:14,862
He's agreeable.
He wants to talk.
308
00:13:14,862 --> 00:13:16,344
All right, now, look,
309
00:13:16,344 --> 00:13:19,482
I know you're in here
For this incident on rightway,
310
00:13:19,482 --> 00:13:20,862
But what I want to talk
To you about
311
00:13:20,862 --> 00:13:22,758
Is this murder that occurred
The night before.
312
00:13:22,758 --> 00:13:25,379
[ sighs ] Look, man,
I-I told y'all
313
00:13:25,379 --> 00:13:28,482
I didn't have no part to do
With any of that.
314
00:13:28,482 --> 00:13:30,517
Anybody wouldn't listen to me.
315
00:13:30,517 --> 00:13:31,896
No. We're listening.
316
00:13:31,896 --> 00:13:35,724
♪♪
317
00:13:35,724 --> 00:13:39,931
Tell me, where were you
March 14th around midnight?
318
00:13:39,931 --> 00:13:42,103
I was at the hospital.
319
00:13:42,103 --> 00:13:44,689
The hospital? For what?
320
00:13:44,689 --> 00:13:46,724
My girl's place
Had just been broken into,
321
00:13:46,724 --> 00:13:50,448
And some dudes beat her up.
322
00:13:50,448 --> 00:13:53,827
-who's your girlfriend?
-tasha.
323
00:13:53,827 --> 00:13:58,206
I realized that the tasha he was
Talking about was natasha gray.
324
00:13:58,206 --> 00:14:01,620
Natasha gray was the victim
In the home invasion
325
00:14:01,620 --> 00:14:05,379
That happened 2 hours before
Williams was shot.
326
00:14:05,379 --> 00:14:08,862
Is there someone who can verify
This other than tasha?
327
00:14:08,862 --> 00:14:11,724
Yeah, the cop who interviewed me
At the hospital.
328
00:14:11,724 --> 00:14:15,482
At this point, I'm thinking that
Johnson has a really good alibi.
329
00:14:15,482 --> 00:14:17,413
If he was at the hospital
With her,
330
00:14:17,413 --> 00:14:19,137
Certainly within that
2-hour window,
331
00:14:19,137 --> 00:14:21,965
He wasn't able to go to
Williams' house and shoot him.
332
00:14:21,965 --> 00:14:23,310
Listen, man.
333
00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:24,724
The people who killed this dude
334
00:14:24,724 --> 00:14:28,448
Are probably the same ones
Who laid into tasha.
335
00:14:28,448 --> 00:14:31,068
Y'all got to believe me.
I didn't shoot anybody.
336
00:14:31,068 --> 00:14:32,793
Demery:
Johnson's pretty emphatic.
337
00:14:32,793 --> 00:14:36,000
He's actually begging
And pleading to help him
338
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,896
Because he feels like
He's being wrongfully charged.
339
00:14:38,896 --> 00:14:41,413
All right.
Listen to me, brother.
340
00:14:41,413 --> 00:14:42,862
You have my word.
341
00:14:42,862 --> 00:14:45,172
I'll get to the bottom
Of this.
342
00:14:45,172 --> 00:14:46,931
All right, man.
343
00:14:46,931 --> 00:14:56,931
♪♪
344
00:14:56,931 --> 00:15:02,896
♪♪
345
00:15:02,896 --> 00:15:04,551
I'm not real sure that
Johnson committed
346
00:15:04,551 --> 00:15:05,862
Either one of these crimes.
347
00:15:05,862 --> 00:15:08,413
He's not deceptive.
He's not belligerent.
348
00:15:08,413 --> 00:15:10,655
There's nothing about him
That seems responsible
349
00:15:10,655 --> 00:15:12,758
Or even knowledge of
These crimes.
350
00:15:12,758 --> 00:15:14,827
Do you have the natasha gray
File in there?
351
00:15:14,827 --> 00:15:16,310
Uh, yeah.
352
00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:19,344
Is there a supplemental report
About an interview with demario?
353
00:15:19,344 --> 00:15:21,034
Hold on, hold on.
354
00:15:21,034 --> 00:15:23,448
The information he's giving me
Is easily verifiable,
355
00:15:23,448 --> 00:15:28,172
So I'm cross-referencing
The report and the time stamps.
356
00:15:28,172 --> 00:15:29,931
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's here.
357
00:15:29,931 --> 00:15:31,551
And?
358
00:15:31,551 --> 00:15:33,965
I mean, honestly, it seems
To me there's no way
359
00:15:33,965 --> 00:15:36,344
He could have killed
Delon williams.
360
00:15:36,344 --> 00:15:39,379
At the exact time
That delon williams
361
00:15:39,379 --> 00:15:41,896
Is being shot and killed,
362
00:15:41,896 --> 00:15:45,413
Johnson was at the hospital,
So he has an airtight alibi.
363
00:15:45,413 --> 00:15:48,655
I bet you he didn't shoot
Sandra thomas either.
364
00:15:48,655 --> 00:15:50,310
I'm gonna look at the case file
365
00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:53,034
And find out exactly what
Evidence they had against him
366
00:15:53,034 --> 00:15:56,275
For the sandra thomas shooting
And home invasion.
367
00:15:56,275 --> 00:15:57,724
Yeah, but here's the thing.
368
00:15:57,724 --> 00:15:59,620
In addition
To the informant,
369
00:15:59,620 --> 00:16:03,068
Tawanna thomas picked demario
Out of a photo lineup.
370
00:16:03,068 --> 00:16:05,275
Okay. Hold on a second.
371
00:16:05,275 --> 00:16:07,931
She picks out a guy with a mask
On out of a photo lineup?
372
00:16:07,931 --> 00:16:09,137
Are you kidding me?
373
00:16:09,137 --> 00:16:10,586
Probably the most ridiculous
[bleep] Thing
374
00:16:10,586 --> 00:16:12,172
I've ever seen in my life.
375
00:16:14,241 --> 00:16:16,655
I decided to call
Detective rudell
376
00:16:16,655 --> 00:16:18,034
Because he was the person
377
00:16:18,034 --> 00:16:20,793
Investigating
The sandra thomas shooting,
378
00:16:20,793 --> 00:16:24,344
And I figured I could get
Some straight answers from him.
379
00:16:24,344 --> 00:16:27,310
Hey, rudell. It's demery.
380
00:16:27,310 --> 00:16:29,344
What happened with
The sandra thomas case?
381
00:16:29,344 --> 00:16:31,275
After showing the photo lineup
To tawanna,
382
00:16:31,275 --> 00:16:33,655
I felt like I had
A direction to go in,
383
00:16:33,655 --> 00:16:35,758
But I definitely didn't feel
There was enough evidence
384
00:16:35,758 --> 00:16:39,551
To try to get a warrant
Or make an arrest at that time.
385
00:16:39,551 --> 00:16:41,517
So then why the hell
Did you arrest him?
386
00:16:41,517 --> 00:16:43,965
There was a lot of pressure
Coming from my supervision
387
00:16:43,965 --> 00:16:46,862
To close this case,
And they said, "Lock him up."
388
00:16:46,862 --> 00:16:50,517
I protested. I said, "I don't
Think this is strong enough."
389
00:16:50,517 --> 00:16:51,655
They said, "Lock him up."
390
00:16:51,655 --> 00:16:53,000
[ cell door clanks ]
391
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,551
[ whirring ]
392
00:16:56,551 --> 00:16:57,758
Yeah.
393
00:16:57,758 --> 00:16:59,068
See, this is what
I'm talking about, man,
394
00:16:59,068 --> 00:17:01,551
With these supervisors
Trying to push for numbers.
395
00:17:01,551 --> 00:17:03,965
I never wanted to put
An innocent person in jail,
396
00:17:03,965 --> 00:17:05,551
And I never wanted
To produce a case
397
00:17:05,551 --> 00:17:09,241
That wasn't worth putting
In front of a judge.
398
00:17:09,241 --> 00:17:10,793
I absolutely believe rudell.
399
00:17:10,793 --> 00:17:13,448
I think that was absolutely
His supervisor's doing,
400
00:17:13,448 --> 00:17:14,896
Definitely wasn't his call.
401
00:17:14,896 --> 00:17:18,000
-all right, brother. Thank you.
[ cellphone beeps ]
402
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,689
So demario didn't shoot
Sandra thomas either?
403
00:17:21,689 --> 00:17:23,517
Nope.
404
00:17:23,517 --> 00:17:25,620
At this point, I realized that
This man should not be in jail.
405
00:17:25,620 --> 00:17:28,586
He needs to get out immediately.
406
00:17:28,586 --> 00:17:30,931
Okay.
So what do we do now?
407
00:17:30,931 --> 00:17:32,310
Now we're gonna make it right.
408
00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:34,931
[ engine starts ]
409
00:17:34,931 --> 00:17:36,862
Getting justice
For demario johnson
410
00:17:36,862 --> 00:17:40,758
Is just as important as getting
Justice for delon williams.
411
00:17:40,758 --> 00:17:44,172
When we don't have the ability
To make people feel secure
412
00:17:44,172 --> 00:17:45,379
In justice,
413
00:17:45,379 --> 00:17:47,620
We're going to have problems.
414
00:17:47,620 --> 00:17:49,551
In order to sort
This whole mess out,
415
00:17:49,551 --> 00:17:51,344
Detective clark and I now need
To find out
416
00:17:51,344 --> 00:17:53,206
Who really killed
Delon williams.
417
00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:55,586
Demery: I tell clark
That I want him to find people
418
00:17:55,586 --> 00:17:57,758
That are close to williams,
419
00:17:57,758 --> 00:18:01,137
Particularly a girlfriend
Or a wife or a mother,
420
00:18:01,137 --> 00:18:03,275
Someone that kind of
Nurtures his life.
421
00:18:08,793 --> 00:18:10,586
Thank you for meeting with us.
422
00:18:10,586 --> 00:18:14,551
Of course, whatever y'all need
To find out who killed delon.
423
00:18:14,551 --> 00:18:16,000
Yeah.
424
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,379
When I met delon williams'
Girlfriend, frontera cade,
425
00:18:18,379 --> 00:18:20,827
She seemed to be
Cooperative and courteous,
426
00:18:20,827 --> 00:18:24,241
So it looked like we were going
To get something from her.
427
00:18:24,241 --> 00:18:27,689
[ voice breaking ] We were
Only together for 6 months,
428
00:18:27,689 --> 00:18:30,241
But I loved that man
With all my heart.
429
00:18:30,241 --> 00:18:32,965
♪♪
430
00:18:32,965 --> 00:18:37,551
What I learned from her was that
He was really good to her
431
00:18:37,551 --> 00:18:38,862
And really respectful to her,
432
00:18:38,862 --> 00:18:40,620
And I think, probably
More importantly,
433
00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:44,482
He was good to
Her children as well.
434
00:18:44,482 --> 00:18:48,517
Do you know who could
Have done this to him?
435
00:18:48,517 --> 00:18:51,655
I wish I did,
But I have no idea.
436
00:18:53,655 --> 00:18:55,000
She became emotional
437
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,655
Because she really
Couldn't give me anything,
438
00:18:56,655 --> 00:19:00,241
And I think she
Really wanted to.
439
00:19:00,241 --> 00:19:03,172
Here's my card, and if you
Can think of anything,
440
00:19:03,172 --> 00:19:04,413
You contact me, okay?
441
00:19:04,413 --> 00:19:05,655
[ whispers ] Okay.
442
00:19:05,655 --> 00:19:10,379
And again, I'm really
Sorry for your loss.
443
00:19:10,379 --> 00:19:12,482
We'll let ourselves out.
444
00:19:12,482 --> 00:19:22,517
♪♪
445
00:19:22,517 --> 00:19:24,103
After we leave,
I could tell
446
00:19:24,103 --> 00:19:25,413
That clark was
A little disappointed.
447
00:19:25,413 --> 00:19:27,586
He wanted more,
But, you know, the fact
448
00:19:27,586 --> 00:19:29,034
That we had a good conversation
With her
449
00:19:29,034 --> 00:19:30,344
And we built a rapport,
450
00:19:30,344 --> 00:19:32,379
I think that's probably
The most important thing.
451
00:19:32,379 --> 00:19:34,206
Okay. So we keep pounding
The pavement?
452
00:19:34,206 --> 00:19:36,482
You got that right.
453
00:19:36,482 --> 00:19:41,241
♪♪
454
00:19:41,241 --> 00:19:43,896
With no obvious road to travel,
The following day,
455
00:19:43,896 --> 00:19:46,758
Clark and I decide to dig into
Delon's cell-phone records
456
00:19:46,758 --> 00:19:48,413
For possible clues.
457
00:19:48,413 --> 00:19:52,310
♪♪
458
00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:54,758
[ sighs ]
459
00:19:54,758 --> 00:19:56,206
♪♪
460
00:19:56,206 --> 00:19:58,862
I mean, it just doesn't look
Like there's much here.
461
00:19:58,862 --> 00:20:02,241
Yeah? There's no recurring
Numbers at unusual times?
462
00:20:02,241 --> 00:20:05,068
No. I mean, nothing that
Raises a red flag.
463
00:20:05,068 --> 00:20:08,862
[ telephone rings ]
464
00:20:08,862 --> 00:20:11,310
This is demery.
465
00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:13,275
Hey, frontera. What's happening?
466
00:20:15,068 --> 00:20:17,551
Really?
467
00:20:17,551 --> 00:20:19,551
Yeah. Sure.
We'll see you in a little bit.
468
00:20:19,551 --> 00:20:20,793
Okay.
469
00:20:20,793 --> 00:20:23,586
♪♪
470
00:20:23,586 --> 00:20:24,827
What's going on?
471
00:20:24,827 --> 00:20:26,896
She said she knows
Who killed her boyfriend.
472
00:20:26,896 --> 00:20:29,379
Frontera's saying that
She's hearing from people
473
00:20:29,379 --> 00:20:32,448
On the street that her cousin
Was involved in the murder.
474
00:20:32,448 --> 00:20:34,413
We've got something now
That's solid.
475
00:20:34,413 --> 00:20:35,551
We got somewhere to go.
476
00:20:40,103 --> 00:20:47,241
♪♪
477
00:20:47,241 --> 00:20:49,068
Me and my rookie, clark,
Are investigating
478
00:20:49,068 --> 00:20:51,448
What's considered
An impossible homicide.
479
00:20:51,448 --> 00:20:52,965
We've talked to a few people,
480
00:20:52,965 --> 00:20:55,448
And we've got
Our first real break.
481
00:20:55,448 --> 00:20:57,931
Frontera cade has told us
That she believes her cousin
482
00:20:57,931 --> 00:20:59,689
Was involved in the murder.
483
00:20:59,689 --> 00:21:03,206
Okay, so I'm sorry.
Who's her cousin?
484
00:21:03,206 --> 00:21:07,275
Mickey cade.
That name sound familiar?
485
00:21:07,275 --> 00:21:08,758
No. It doesn't
Ring a bell.
486
00:21:08,758 --> 00:21:10,448
Let's see what we've got.
487
00:21:10,448 --> 00:21:12,172
Now that I've got
The name mickey cade,
488
00:21:12,172 --> 00:21:14,758
I need to run
A history on him
489
00:21:14,758 --> 00:21:16,689
And find out what
Kind of stuff he's into.
490
00:21:19,586 --> 00:21:22,068
Well, this guy's been busy.
491
00:21:22,068 --> 00:21:25,620
Demery: mickey has
A long history of armed robbery,
492
00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:28,344
Home invasion,
Aggravated burglary.
493
00:21:28,344 --> 00:21:30,206
Usually when someone
Has a history of doing
494
00:21:30,206 --> 00:21:34,758
A certain crime, they very
Rarely break from that pattern.
495
00:21:34,758 --> 00:21:36,965
Check that out.
496
00:21:36,965 --> 00:21:38,620
I'll be damned.
497
00:21:38,620 --> 00:21:40,310
Rudell: while they're
Researching mickey cade,
498
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:43,206
They learn that he's
Currently incarcerated.
499
00:21:43,206 --> 00:21:46,206
He's in jail for
A firearms violation.
500
00:21:46,206 --> 00:21:50,689
It's just 3 days after
The williams homicide.
501
00:21:50,689 --> 00:21:52,724
So how does she know
This guy did it?
502
00:21:52,724 --> 00:21:54,655
That's what we need
To find out asap.
503
00:21:54,655 --> 00:21:58,137
Now she wants us to meet her
At this diner on texas avenue.
504
00:21:58,137 --> 00:22:03,103
Let's go see what the hell
She's talking about.
505
00:22:03,103 --> 00:22:09,310
♪♪
506
00:22:09,310 --> 00:22:12,551
[ bell dings ]
507
00:22:12,551 --> 00:22:14,310
Now that frontera has
Given me this information,
508
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:15,551
I have to verify it.
509
00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:16,965
I have to get it from the people
Who gave it to her
510
00:22:16,965 --> 00:22:19,000
And find out where
They got it from.
511
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,620
Hey, frontera.
How are you?
512
00:22:21,620 --> 00:22:25,068
♪♪
513
00:22:25,068 --> 00:22:26,793
So I see you brought
Some company?
514
00:22:26,793 --> 00:22:28,862
This is my other cousin.
515
00:22:28,862 --> 00:22:31,448
Leslie cade.
Nice to meet you, fellows.
516
00:22:31,448 --> 00:22:34,068
Leslie is the one who told
Me about our cousin, mickey.
517
00:22:34,068 --> 00:22:35,517
Ah, okay.
518
00:22:35,517 --> 00:22:39,068
My hope is that leslie cade
Will give me something
519
00:22:39,068 --> 00:22:41,310
To substantiate
What he's saying.
520
00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:44,344
So tell me, why do you think
Mickey is involved?
521
00:22:44,344 --> 00:22:48,000
Because I saw him right after
He robbed the place on rightway.
522
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,241
On rightway? Okay.
523
00:22:50,241 --> 00:22:51,965
Leslie starts talking
About where
524
00:22:51,965 --> 00:22:54,758
The thomas home
Invasion took place.
525
00:22:54,758 --> 00:22:57,241
See, I live with mickey
And his family,
526
00:22:57,241 --> 00:22:58,517
And him and some dude,
Jacobi,
527
00:22:58,517 --> 00:23:00,000
Were talking about
Hitting a lick.
528
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,310
Mm-hmm.
529
00:23:01,310 --> 00:23:04,103
"Hit a lick" is a street term
For a robbery,
530
00:23:04,103 --> 00:23:06,068
Commit an armed robbery.
531
00:23:06,068 --> 00:23:10,034
♪♪
532
00:23:10,034 --> 00:23:12,275
Hey. Where'd you guys get
All this stuff?
533
00:23:12,275 --> 00:23:13,896
[bleep] You asking
Questions for, man?
534
00:23:13,896 --> 00:23:17,310
-where you get all this stuff?
[ chuckles ]
535
00:23:17,310 --> 00:23:19,379
When they got back,
They had a red laptop,
536
00:23:19,379 --> 00:23:22,413
Some coins
And a cell phone.
537
00:23:22,413 --> 00:23:26,068
What was important about that
Is the police report
538
00:23:26,068 --> 00:23:27,862
Of the thomas home invasion
539
00:23:27,862 --> 00:23:30,034
Listed those things
As being taken.
540
00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:32,448
That type of knowledge
Wasn't out there.
541
00:23:32,448 --> 00:23:34,758
No one knew it.
542
00:23:34,758 --> 00:23:37,137
So tell me about jacobi.
543
00:23:37,137 --> 00:23:39,655
He's friends with
Mickey's son, caylen.
544
00:23:39,655 --> 00:23:41,896
His name is jacobi parker.
545
00:23:41,896 --> 00:23:44,448
Friends with his son?
546
00:23:44,448 --> 00:23:46,275
How old is this kid?
547
00:23:46,275 --> 00:23:48,241
He's, like, 17.
548
00:23:48,241 --> 00:23:51,448
Is mickey's son involved?
549
00:23:51,448 --> 00:23:53,206
I don't know. He might be.
550
00:23:53,206 --> 00:23:56,448
So you're saying mickey robbed
The place over on rightway,
551
00:23:56,448 --> 00:23:59,137
But what's making
You think he shot delon?
552
00:23:59,137 --> 00:24:01,586
Look, I can't be sure,
But the whole thing
553
00:24:01,586 --> 00:24:03,034
Is a strange coincidence,
554
00:24:03,034 --> 00:24:05,034
You know, and mickey is just
That type of character.
555
00:24:05,034 --> 00:24:08,034
As leslie is giving me
All this information,
556
00:24:08,034 --> 00:24:10,448
I realized that leslie
Does not like mickey cade.
557
00:24:10,448 --> 00:24:13,413
He thinks he's a danger, and
He's seen and witnessed things
558
00:24:13,413 --> 00:24:15,344
That he's just not
Comfortable with.
559
00:24:15,344 --> 00:24:17,172
Why's he doing this?
560
00:24:17,172 --> 00:24:19,034
'cause he's a junkie, man.
561
00:24:19,034 --> 00:24:21,241
He'll do anything to get
His hands on some dope.
562
00:24:21,241 --> 00:24:25,275
Leslie also told me
That mickey was a dope fiend.
563
00:24:25,275 --> 00:24:28,965
That desperateness drove him
To do a lot of different things.
564
00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:34,586
You know where I can find
Jacobi or caylen?
565
00:24:34,586 --> 00:24:37,206
I don't know about jacobi,
But I know caylen has been
566
00:24:37,206 --> 00:24:40,862
Staying with his mom
As of lately.
567
00:24:40,862 --> 00:24:42,586
Where can I find his mom?
568
00:24:42,586 --> 00:24:47,517
She lives off lakeshore,
Over in queensborough.
569
00:24:47,517 --> 00:24:49,034
Well, listen.
Thank you guys very much.
570
00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:51,068
I appreciate your help,
And if we need anything else,
571
00:24:51,068 --> 00:24:52,413
We'll be in touch.
572
00:24:52,413 --> 00:24:58,724
♪♪
573
00:24:58,724 --> 00:25:01,241
After talking to leslie cade,
Detective clark and I
574
00:25:01,241 --> 00:25:02,827
Head to the house of
Caylen's mother,
575
00:25:02,827 --> 00:25:05,689
And mickey's ex,
Nicole flemings.
576
00:25:13,206 --> 00:25:15,827
Excuse me, ms. Fleming?
577
00:25:15,827 --> 00:25:17,137
Yes?
578
00:25:17,137 --> 00:25:18,310
Yeah. We're with
The shreveport police.
579
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:20,241
Can we ask you
A few questions?
580
00:25:20,241 --> 00:25:22,517
Is this about
My idiot ex-husband?
581
00:25:22,517 --> 00:25:26,034
Actually, it's about your
Ex-husband and your son, caylen.
582
00:25:26,034 --> 00:25:27,137
Why caylen?
583
00:25:27,137 --> 00:25:28,413
Well, we think
He may have helped
584
00:25:28,413 --> 00:25:29,724
Mickey commit some robberies
585
00:25:29,724 --> 00:25:32,689
And maybe even a murder.
-what?
586
00:25:32,689 --> 00:25:34,827
Nicole flemings is now
Face-to-face
587
00:25:34,827 --> 00:25:36,379
With a couple
Of homicide detectives,
588
00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:40,310
That want to talk
To their son about a homicide.
589
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:41,551
It's gotta be scary.
590
00:25:41,551 --> 00:25:43,000
Where is caylen at now?
591
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,793
He's down at the park
Playing basketball.
592
00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:46,448
Which park is he at?
593
00:25:46,448 --> 00:25:49,310
-I'll show you.
-thank you.
594
00:25:49,310 --> 00:25:52,517
Caylen's mother loves her son,
And she wanted to save him
595
00:25:52,517 --> 00:25:54,517
From anything that
She possibly could.
596
00:25:54,517 --> 00:25:58,068
She didn't hesitate at all
To go with us to find him.
597
00:25:58,068 --> 00:26:04,931
♪♪
598
00:26:04,931 --> 00:26:09,068
♪♪
599
00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:10,241
Should we go...
600
00:26:10,241 --> 00:26:13,103
No. No, no, no.
Let's give it a minute.
601
00:26:13,103 --> 00:26:14,586
At this point, I don't want
To get out of the car.
602
00:26:14,586 --> 00:26:15,862
I don't want to spook him.
603
00:26:15,862 --> 00:26:21,931
♪♪
604
00:26:21,931 --> 00:26:24,172
Caylen, get your ass
Over here.
605
00:26:24,172 --> 00:26:25,379
What's up, mama?
606
00:26:27,655 --> 00:26:31,068
There's two detectives
Asking about you.
607
00:26:31,068 --> 00:26:33,103
Let's go.
Get in the car now.
608
00:26:35,241 --> 00:26:37,862
See, that's a positive sign.
609
00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:40,206
Yeah. Why is that?
610
00:26:40,206 --> 00:26:41,827
He respects his mother.
611
00:26:41,827 --> 00:26:46,103
He listens to her,
And that's a good thing.
612
00:26:46,103 --> 00:26:49,068
I knew this kid is gonna be easy
To talk to.
613
00:26:49,068 --> 00:26:50,965
What he was going to say
Is a whole 'nother story,
614
00:26:50,965 --> 00:26:53,310
But he was going to at least
Be respectful in doing it.
615
00:26:53,310 --> 00:26:54,931
♪♪
616
00:26:54,931 --> 00:26:56,965
Now let me start off by saying
Thank you, both,
617
00:26:56,965 --> 00:27:00,172
For coming down
To talk with us, okay?
618
00:27:00,172 --> 00:27:01,689
So listen, caylen,
619
00:27:01,689 --> 00:27:03,172
I just want to ask you
A few questions
620
00:27:03,172 --> 00:27:05,241
About you and your dad.
621
00:27:05,241 --> 00:27:07,379
What do you want to know?
622
00:27:07,379 --> 00:27:09,586
Caylen, if you and your dad
Did something awful,
623
00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:11,103
You need to tell them.
624
00:27:11,103 --> 00:27:13,241
I didn't do anything.
625
00:27:13,241 --> 00:27:14,793
It was my dad and jacobi.
626
00:27:14,793 --> 00:27:17,586
They shot that guy.
627
00:27:17,586 --> 00:27:20,206
At the start of this case,
We had absolutely nothing.
628
00:27:20,206 --> 00:27:22,689
Now I feel like it's just
A matter of time
629
00:27:22,689 --> 00:27:25,241
Before clark and I prove
630
00:27:25,241 --> 00:27:27,931
That there's no such thing as
An impossible homicide.
631
00:27:33,137 --> 00:27:41,379
♪♪
632
00:27:41,379 --> 00:27:44,448
My rookie, clark,
And I are talking to caylen,
633
00:27:44,448 --> 00:27:47,103
The son of mickey cade.
634
00:27:47,103 --> 00:27:49,758
Caylen has broke the case.
635
00:27:49,758 --> 00:27:54,586
We've learned that jacobi parker
Was probably with mickey cade
636
00:27:54,586 --> 00:27:57,931
When they shot and killed
Delon williams.
637
00:27:57,931 --> 00:28:01,758
♪♪
638
00:28:01,758 --> 00:28:05,517
So, caylen, how do you know
Jacobi and your dad
639
00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:08,655
Are responsible for this?
640
00:28:08,655 --> 00:28:11,482
Because of what they were
Talking about before they left.
641
00:28:11,482 --> 00:28:14,206
Caylen told me that the two
Of them left the house
642
00:28:14,206 --> 00:28:17,068
With the same sort of attitude,
643
00:28:17,068 --> 00:28:19,172
That mickey wanted
To hit a lick.
644
00:28:19,172 --> 00:28:21,965
And when the two came back,
645
00:28:21,965 --> 00:28:25,379
Mickey immediately told him
To get on the floor.
646
00:28:25,379 --> 00:28:28,793
♪♪
647
00:28:28,793 --> 00:28:30,896
Hoo! That's what
I'm talking about, boy.
648
00:28:30,896 --> 00:28:32,068
Caylen:
Man, what y'all do?
649
00:28:32,068 --> 00:28:33,275
Hey, make yourself comfortable.
650
00:28:33,275 --> 00:28:35,275
You're sleeping
On the floor tonight.
651
00:28:35,275 --> 00:28:37,241
Man, why I got to sleep
On the floor for?
652
00:28:37,241 --> 00:28:38,655
Look, man, I don't know
If they gonna
653
00:28:38,655 --> 00:28:39,758
Come spray this place up or not.
654
00:28:39,758 --> 00:28:41,517
-do you want to get shot?
-no.
655
00:28:41,517 --> 00:28:42,758
Well, get on the floor.
656
00:28:42,758 --> 00:28:48,724
♪♪
657
00:28:48,724 --> 00:28:50,827
My dad didn't know
If the guy was dead,
658
00:28:50,827 --> 00:28:55,206
And he was afraid he would
Come to shoot up the house.
659
00:28:55,206 --> 00:28:57,862
Do you know
Who fired the shot?
660
00:28:57,862 --> 00:29:02,103
I don't know, but I think
It was jacobi.
661
00:29:02,103 --> 00:29:03,551
Why do you say that?
662
00:29:03,551 --> 00:29:05,758
Because of what my dad
Was talking about
663
00:29:05,758 --> 00:29:08,241
After they came back.
664
00:29:08,241 --> 00:29:09,586
Damn, cobi.
665
00:29:09,586 --> 00:29:11,344
Shoot, you ain't no goon.
You a goblin today.
666
00:29:11,344 --> 00:29:13,448
-you earned it.
-no. [ laughs ]
667
00:29:14,931 --> 00:29:17,620
If you're a goon, you're
A chicken like most people,
668
00:29:17,620 --> 00:29:19,241
But a goblin, they're vicious.
669
00:29:19,241 --> 00:29:22,379
They have no moral conscience
Whatsoever.
670
00:29:22,379 --> 00:29:26,896
So the idea that he was
Considered a goblin
671
00:29:26,896 --> 00:29:28,172
Made it more likely that
672
00:29:28,172 --> 00:29:30,206
He was the person
That did the shooting.
673
00:29:30,206 --> 00:29:34,344
Why would your dad be doing this
With jacobi if he's your friend?
674
00:29:34,344 --> 00:29:36,241
Because jacobi's daddy
Is locked up.
675
00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:40,758
He looks up to mickey,
Thinks he's some kind of badass.
676
00:29:40,758 --> 00:29:42,689
Demery: she described it as
A close relationship
677
00:29:42,689 --> 00:29:46,275
Where jacobi
Actually called mickey "Dad."
678
00:29:46,275 --> 00:29:50,241
So it was obvious that mickey
Kind of took advantage of that
679
00:29:50,241 --> 00:29:55,344
And used the impressionable kids
To commit his crimes.
680
00:29:55,344 --> 00:29:57,620
So you had nothing to do
With any of this?
681
00:29:57,620 --> 00:30:01,724
No, sir, and I told jacobi
Not to go with my dad either,
682
00:30:01,724 --> 00:30:02,896
But he didn't listen.
683
00:30:02,896 --> 00:30:05,137
Talking to caylen,
He's not guarded.
684
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:06,758
He's not defensive.
685
00:30:06,758 --> 00:30:10,551
He's not aggressive, so I didn't
Have any reason to doubt him.
686
00:30:10,551 --> 00:30:12,827
What'd jacobi do
With the gun?
687
00:30:12,827 --> 00:30:15,896
Well, he got arrested
A couple days after.
688
00:30:15,896 --> 00:30:19,000
My dad bailed him out,
But the cops took his gun.
689
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,931
The fact that jacobi
Was arrested with a firearm
690
00:30:22,931 --> 00:30:26,655
Could be the icing
On the cake.
691
00:30:26,655 --> 00:30:28,896
Listen. I know this could not
Have been easy,
692
00:30:28,896 --> 00:30:30,103
So I want to thank
Both of you for coming in
693
00:30:30,103 --> 00:30:31,448
To talk to me, okay?
694
00:30:31,448 --> 00:30:33,344
If we need anything else,
We'll be in contact.
695
00:30:33,344 --> 00:30:36,827
♪♪
696
00:30:36,827 --> 00:30:39,965
My hope is, is that the gun
That jacobi was arrested with
697
00:30:39,965 --> 00:30:42,965
Was the gun that shot
And killed delon williams
698
00:30:42,965 --> 00:30:45,586
And shot and injured
Sandra thomas.
699
00:30:45,586 --> 00:30:50,275
♪♪
700
00:30:50,275 --> 00:30:51,965
After speaking with caylen,
701
00:30:51,965 --> 00:30:54,482
Our next move is to visit
The evidence locker
702
00:30:54,482 --> 00:30:57,379
And take a look
At the gun for ourselves.
703
00:30:57,379 --> 00:31:00,379
-okay. There you go.
-thanks.
704
00:31:00,379 --> 00:31:01,689
You're going to need that.
705
00:31:01,689 --> 00:31:03,620
Can I get you to sign this,
Please?
706
00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:06,965
Sure. Thanks.
707
00:31:06,965 --> 00:31:09,862
♪♪
708
00:31:09,862 --> 00:31:13,206
The tense moment is,
What type of gun was it?
709
00:31:13,206 --> 00:31:17,517
♪♪
710
00:31:17,517 --> 00:31:19,310
Bingo, 9-mm.
711
00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:21,689
♪♪
712
00:31:21,689 --> 00:31:23,517
Now all we got to do is send it
To ballistics
713
00:31:23,517 --> 00:31:25,344
And let them
Do their thing.
714
00:31:25,344 --> 00:31:29,724
Both of us are on cloud nine
Because the likelihood of this
715
00:31:29,724 --> 00:31:32,137
Being all coincidental
Is slim to none.
716
00:31:32,137 --> 00:31:34,482
♪♪
717
00:31:34,482 --> 00:31:37,655
As we wait for the ballistics
On the 9-mil to come back,
718
00:31:37,655 --> 00:31:40,379
Clark and I track down
Jacobi parker.
719
00:31:40,379 --> 00:31:42,724
[ rapid gunfire ]
720
00:31:42,724 --> 00:31:44,379
[ man laughs ]
721
00:31:44,379 --> 00:31:46,103
[ rapid gunfire ]
722
00:31:46,103 --> 00:31:47,862
[ knock on door ]
723
00:31:47,862 --> 00:31:49,068
Hold on, ma!
724
00:31:49,068 --> 00:31:50,310
[ knock on door ]
725
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:52,482
Hold on, ma!
726
00:31:52,482 --> 00:31:54,206
Don't move.
727
00:31:54,206 --> 00:31:55,931
What's going on?
728
00:31:55,931 --> 00:31:57,448
What's going on is that
You're coming to the station
729
00:31:57,448 --> 00:31:59,413
For some conversation with me.
730
00:31:59,413 --> 00:32:00,689
Let's go.
731
00:32:00,689 --> 00:32:03,413
He was at home
Doing what a kid does.
732
00:32:03,413 --> 00:32:04,896
He looked like a little boy.
733
00:32:04,896 --> 00:32:06,620
He didn't look like he could
Shoot anybody or be a gangster,
734
00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:07,827
But clearly he was.
735
00:32:07,827 --> 00:32:09,620
Stand up. Put your hands
Behind your back.
736
00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:13,206
Do what the man says.
737
00:32:13,206 --> 00:32:15,034
He cooperate.
738
00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:18,517
He came with us
To the police station.
739
00:32:18,517 --> 00:32:28,206
♪♪
740
00:32:28,206 --> 00:32:31,758
Okay, jacobi. Have a seat.
741
00:32:31,758 --> 00:32:33,413
The fact that he's 17
742
00:32:33,413 --> 00:32:36,862
Makes him adult in louisiana law
At that time,
743
00:32:36,862 --> 00:32:38,965
So he didn't have
To have a parent with him.
744
00:32:57,241 --> 00:33:00,689
When parker starts denying
Things, I know that he's lying.
745
00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:03,068
The gears shift for me,
You know?
746
00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:05,310
Now I have to give him
A sense of reality.
747
00:33:34,034 --> 00:33:38,379
The kid was clearly someone
Who thought he was savvy.
748
00:33:57,344 --> 00:34:00,862
♪♪
749
00:34:00,862 --> 00:34:02,344
Kid's not budging.
750
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,517
That's all right.
751
00:34:04,517 --> 00:34:07,689
We don't give up.
752
00:34:07,689 --> 00:34:09,413
This kid is playing games.
753
00:34:09,413 --> 00:34:11,758
He thinks he can tell me
Whatever he wants to,
754
00:34:11,758 --> 00:34:14,655
And I'm going to give up,
But I'm not going to stop.
755
00:34:14,655 --> 00:34:16,482
He's gonna tell me what
I want to know.
756
00:34:21,275 --> 00:34:29,275
♪♪
757
00:34:29,275 --> 00:34:33,241
My rookie and I are
Interrogating jacobi parker.
758
00:34:33,241 --> 00:34:34,827
Jacobi is denying everything.
759
00:34:34,827 --> 00:34:37,000
I'm hoping that,
After we take a break,
760
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,482
He'll have a chance to allow
Some of these things to sink in
761
00:34:39,482 --> 00:34:42,241
Or realize that we actually
Have evidence against him.
762
00:34:42,241 --> 00:34:44,551
♪♪
763
00:34:44,551 --> 00:34:48,413
You ready to see if this kid
Came to his senses?
764
00:34:48,413 --> 00:34:50,413
Yeah.
765
00:34:50,413 --> 00:34:53,482
Let's go dig in.
766
00:34:54,689 --> 00:34:57,379
It's now the moment of truth.
767
00:34:57,379 --> 00:34:59,724
Jacobi is either going
To talk, or he's not.
768
00:35:11,862 --> 00:35:14,724
After the break,
We come back in, and, um...
769
00:35:14,724 --> 00:35:16,172
Jacobi's different now.
770
00:35:16,172 --> 00:35:21,206
He's allowed all this
To sink in, and he cracked.
771
00:35:32,206 --> 00:35:34,241
Mickey cade's
Street name is "Pig."
772
00:35:43,206 --> 00:35:45,413
I told him that mickey cade was
Completely responsible
773
00:35:45,413 --> 00:35:48,517
For destroying him,
774
00:35:48,517 --> 00:35:51,000
And that I thought
It was ridiculous
775
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,241
That he was doing anything
To protect him.
776
00:36:18,068 --> 00:36:21,103
Jacobi parker eventually
Admitted to being involved
777
00:36:21,103 --> 00:36:23,172
In the sandra thomas
Home invasion,
778
00:36:23,172 --> 00:36:25,379
But he said that mickey cade
Was the shooter.
779
00:36:37,586 --> 00:36:39,000
He admitted to being there,
780
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,310
But he never admitted
To firing a gun.
781
00:36:53,413 --> 00:36:56,413
He stayed far, far away from
Delon williams' homicide
782
00:36:56,413 --> 00:36:58,482
Because that was a murder,
783
00:36:58,482 --> 00:37:01,413
And I don't think
He was prepared for that.
784
00:37:19,655 --> 00:37:24,482
After the conclusion
Of the interview with jacobi,
785
00:37:24,482 --> 00:37:27,379
We arrested him and charged him
With the home invasion
786
00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:29,586
And attempted murder
Of sandra thomas.
787
00:37:29,586 --> 00:37:32,965
We decided not to charge jacobi
With the delon williams homicide
788
00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:36,344
Until we got more information.
789
00:37:36,344 --> 00:37:38,413
Detective clark and I head
Over to the city jail
790
00:37:38,413 --> 00:37:40,310
To speak with mickey cade,
791
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:43,000
Who's currently awaiting trial
On his gun charges.
792
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,103
[ buzzer ]
793
00:37:49,482 --> 00:37:52,551
Thank you for meeting
With me, mickey.
794
00:37:52,551 --> 00:37:54,655
It's my pleasure,
Detective.
795
00:37:54,655 --> 00:37:56,896
I hadn't dealt
With mickey cade before,
796
00:37:56,896 --> 00:37:59,344
So I didn't know
What type of person he was.
797
00:37:59,344 --> 00:38:02,344
Look, let's just get
Straight to the point, man.
798
00:38:02,344 --> 00:38:05,137
I'd be more than glad to tell
You anything you want to know.
799
00:38:05,137 --> 00:38:06,586
Okay.
800
00:38:06,586 --> 00:38:09,517
But in exchange, you know,
I'd like some sort of deal.
801
00:38:09,517 --> 00:38:13,206
But when we met him,
He was more of a salesman,
802
00:38:13,206 --> 00:38:15,068
Wanted to appear
Smarter than he was,
803
00:38:15,068 --> 00:38:17,827
Wanted us to think that
He had this vast experience
804
00:38:17,827 --> 00:38:19,413
In the criminal justice system.
805
00:38:19,413 --> 00:38:21,137
All right, brother. Come on.
806
00:38:21,137 --> 00:38:23,000
You understand we don't
Make deals, right?
807
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,137
Oh, come on.
Like hell you can't.
808
00:38:25,137 --> 00:38:27,172
Come on, fellows.
Work with me here.
809
00:38:27,172 --> 00:38:29,413
Mickey begged for a deal.
810
00:38:29,413 --> 00:38:32,241
I think he was trying to save
Himself and save his life.
811
00:38:32,241 --> 00:38:33,793
Okay. You know what?
812
00:38:33,793 --> 00:38:36,068
This interview is over.
813
00:38:36,068 --> 00:38:40,586
Enjoy your accommodations here.
Looks very roomy.
814
00:38:40,586 --> 00:38:43,172
There was really no reason
To push it with mickey
815
00:38:43,172 --> 00:38:45,172
'cause I had enough evidence
Against him.
816
00:38:45,172 --> 00:38:46,965
He was going to prison
Regardless.
817
00:38:50,137 --> 00:38:54,413
♪♪
818
00:38:54,413 --> 00:38:56,689
After we leave the jail,
Mickey cade's wife,
819
00:38:56,689 --> 00:38:58,551
Felicia cade,
Comes to the office,
820
00:38:58,551 --> 00:39:00,172
And she wants to talk,
821
00:39:00,172 --> 00:39:02,379
Give us whatever
Information she has.
822
00:39:02,379 --> 00:39:04,482
Okay, felicia, so what
Can you tell me
823
00:39:04,482 --> 00:39:07,413
About your husband's involvement
In these crimes?
824
00:39:07,413 --> 00:39:10,724
Well, for starters,
I know why he killed delon.
825
00:39:10,724 --> 00:39:12,517
Yeah? Why is that?
826
00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:15,344
Mickey, he's got
A bad drug problem,
827
00:39:15,344 --> 00:39:17,482
And he's borrowed money
From delon
828
00:39:17,482 --> 00:39:19,724
To feed his habit
In the past.
829
00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:21,517
Is that why he went over
To delon's house,
830
00:39:21,517 --> 00:39:23,724
'cause he knew
He had cash there?
831
00:39:23,724 --> 00:39:26,379
There's no doubt
In my mind.
832
00:39:26,379 --> 00:39:27,965
Demery:
After talking to felicia cade,
833
00:39:27,965 --> 00:39:29,655
I'm able to get
A much clearer picture
834
00:39:29,655 --> 00:39:32,586
Of what happened during
The delon williams murder.
835
00:39:32,586 --> 00:39:34,620
I think mickey cade
Knew delon williams,
836
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:37,241
And he, for whatever reason,
Thought delon had money.
837
00:39:37,241 --> 00:39:39,379
♪♪
838
00:39:39,379 --> 00:39:41,310
-all right. You ready, bro?
-yeah.
839
00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:43,241
About to run this quick lick,
Man, get in there and get out.
840
00:39:43,241 --> 00:39:44,448
-all right.
-come on.
841
00:39:44,448 --> 00:39:45,620
You look scared, man.
Put your mask on.
842
00:39:45,620 --> 00:39:47,344
-come on.
-okay. Okay.
843
00:39:47,344 --> 00:39:49,448
Let's do this.
844
00:39:49,448 --> 00:39:51,586
Demery:
He had an impressionable kid
845
00:39:51,586 --> 00:39:54,931
And enlisted his help
To go rob this man.
846
00:39:54,931 --> 00:39:57,241
♪♪
847
00:39:57,241 --> 00:40:00,517
[ rattling ]
848
00:40:00,517 --> 00:40:02,482
-tell me where the money at!
-oh, hell,no!
849
00:40:02,482 --> 00:40:04,034
Hell, yeah.
Give me what you got, man.
850
00:40:04,034 --> 00:40:05,620
-where the money at?
-I ain't got nothing!
851
00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:07,172
Man, shoot this [bleep]
If he try to get up.
852
00:40:07,172 --> 00:40:08,896
What? What?
853
00:40:08,896 --> 00:40:10,241
[ two gunshots ]
854
00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:12,965
♪♪
855
00:40:12,965 --> 00:40:14,896
Damn, bro. Come on. Let's go.
Let's go. Come on.
856
00:40:14,896 --> 00:40:18,206
[ gasping breathes ]
857
00:40:18,206 --> 00:40:20,689
The following day, he goes
To sandra thomas' house,
858
00:40:20,689 --> 00:40:22,896
Attempting to get
Even more money,
859
00:40:22,896 --> 00:40:25,793
And again, he takes
Jacobi parker with him.
860
00:40:25,793 --> 00:40:28,137
-don't hurt my baby!
[ two gunshots ]
861
00:40:29,655 --> 00:40:31,965
Come on, man. Grab this stuff.
Come on. Let's go.
862
00:40:31,965 --> 00:40:33,379
-hurry up.
-mom?
863
00:40:33,379 --> 00:40:34,793
Go!
864
00:40:34,793 --> 00:40:37,310
I just think mickey cade
Was a piece of [bleep].
865
00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:39,827
And, I mean, it's bad enough
To be a criminal yourself,
866
00:40:39,827 --> 00:40:42,137
But to kind of have
That influence
867
00:40:42,137 --> 00:40:47,034
On an impressionable kid
And use that kid,
868
00:40:47,034 --> 00:40:50,103
It's just...Shameful.
869
00:40:50,103 --> 00:40:52,758
Although felicia's statement
Was helpful,
870
00:40:52,758 --> 00:40:54,379
It's the results
From the ballistics tests
871
00:40:54,379 --> 00:40:58,344
That solidify
Mickey and jacobi's fate.
872
00:40:58,344 --> 00:41:00,275
Hey.
873
00:41:00,275 --> 00:41:02,793
♪♪
874
00:41:02,793 --> 00:41:05,482
It's a match,
No doubt about it.
875
00:41:05,482 --> 00:41:07,965
Jacobi's gun was used
In both crimes.
876
00:41:07,965 --> 00:41:11,034
The weapon that jacobi was
Caught with and arrested with
877
00:41:11,034 --> 00:41:12,862
Was the murder weapon
For delon williams
878
00:41:12,862 --> 00:41:15,206
And the weapon that shot
Sandra thomas.
879
00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:17,310
Congratulations.
880
00:41:17,310 --> 00:41:19,482
Welcome to
The detectives' club.
881
00:41:21,862 --> 00:41:23,206
Thank you, sir.
882
00:41:23,206 --> 00:41:29,965
♪♪
883
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:31,965
As the mastermind
Of the crime spree,
884
00:41:31,965 --> 00:41:34,827
Mickey cade is charged with
The murder of delon williams
885
00:41:34,827 --> 00:41:37,620
While jacobi parker
Is given manslaughter,
886
00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:39,655
But both men are charged
With armed robbery
887
00:41:39,655 --> 00:41:41,620
For the sandra thomas
Home invasion.
888
00:41:41,620 --> 00:41:44,068
Both mickey cade
And jacobi parker
889
00:41:44,068 --> 00:41:45,655
Decided they didn't want
To go to trial.
890
00:41:45,655 --> 00:41:48,241
They both took plea agreements.
891
00:41:48,241 --> 00:41:51,241
Jacobi got sentenced
To 15 years in prison,
892
00:41:51,241 --> 00:41:54,862
And mickey, he got sentenced
To 30 years hard labor.
893
00:41:54,862 --> 00:41:56,034
♪♪
894
00:41:56,034 --> 00:41:57,931
But there's more justice
To be done.
895
00:41:57,931 --> 00:42:00,000
Once mickey and jacobi
Plead out,
896
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,862
Demario johnson, the man
Falsely accused of the crime,
897
00:42:02,862 --> 00:42:04,689
Is finally cleared
Of all charges.
898
00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:08,344
I wanted to physically see
Johnson walking out of the jail
899
00:42:08,344 --> 00:42:09,862
With no delays.
900
00:42:09,862 --> 00:42:11,517
I didn't want to talk to him.
901
00:42:11,517 --> 00:42:13,241
I didn't want to tell him that
We found that he didn't do it.
902
00:42:13,241 --> 00:42:14,551
I didn't want any of that.
903
00:42:14,551 --> 00:42:16,586
I just wanted to see him
Walk out.
904
00:42:20,758 --> 00:42:24,379
I'm not naive enough to believe
That truth always prevails.
905
00:42:24,379 --> 00:42:25,482
Sometimes it takes years.
906
00:42:25,482 --> 00:42:27,655
Sometimes it takes decades,
907
00:42:27,655 --> 00:42:29,620
And sometimes it doesn't
Happen at all.
908
00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:31,586
I think one of the things
That I told clark
909
00:42:31,586 --> 00:42:34,758
Was that you can't really
Control what other people do,
910
00:42:34,758 --> 00:42:37,137
But what we can do is make sure
That we do it right.
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