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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,310 --> 00:00:11,724 Narrator: a mysterious car wreck And a seemingly random shooting. 2 00:00:11,724 --> 00:00:13,689 Officer: What the hell? 3 00:00:13,689 --> 00:00:16,379 He said it appeared to be A lateral gunshot wound, 4 00:00:16,379 --> 00:00:17,931 And those are Probably the most devastating. 5 00:00:17,931 --> 00:00:20,517 They say, "I'm sorry to tell you, 6 00:00:20,517 --> 00:00:22,724 Your son has been Shot and killed." 7 00:00:22,724 --> 00:00:24,793 -look at that, right there. -that's interesting. 8 00:00:24,793 --> 00:00:26,827 Narrator: But the victim's personal life 9 00:00:26,827 --> 00:00:28,862 May shed light on The killer's m.O. 10 00:00:28,862 --> 00:00:30,206 Demery: it's definitely Something that adds 11 00:00:30,206 --> 00:00:32,448 An extra twist to the case. 12 00:00:32,448 --> 00:00:34,068 Narrator: And detective rod demery 13 00:00:34,068 --> 00:00:37,034 Recognizes a sinister Pattern of violence. 14 00:00:37,034 --> 00:00:41,000 There were two previous murders That matched this murder. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,206 [ woman screams ] 16 00:00:43,206 --> 00:00:44,379 I think the possibility of this 17 00:00:44,379 --> 00:00:46,517 Being a serial murder Is very high. 18 00:00:48,655 --> 00:00:51,862 And we're gonna have guns drawn, 19 00:00:51,862 --> 00:00:54,517 Because we don't know Exactly what's gonna happen. 20 00:00:54,517 --> 00:01:04,620 ♪♪ 21 00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:07,827 Murder and me, we go way back. 22 00:01:07,827 --> 00:01:11,206 When I was a child, Murder took my mother. 23 00:01:11,206 --> 00:01:15,068 Years later, It came for my brother. 24 00:01:15,068 --> 00:01:18,000 That's when I found My mission in life. 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,103 Every case I worked, I solved. 26 00:01:20,103 --> 00:01:22,000 Every case I solved, I got a confession. 27 00:01:24,275 --> 00:01:27,689 I'm detective rod demery. 28 00:01:27,689 --> 00:01:29,689 I didn't choose murder. 29 00:01:29,689 --> 00:01:32,620 Murder chose me. 30 00:01:32,620 --> 00:01:35,620 --captions by vitac-- Www.Vitac.Com 31 00:01:35,620 --> 00:01:40,275 Captions paid for by Discovery communications 32 00:01:40,275 --> 00:01:42,137 Jim: Got any paperwork? 33 00:01:42,137 --> 00:01:45,448 I got an accident report And some tickets. 34 00:01:45,448 --> 00:01:46,517 How many you got? 35 00:01:46,517 --> 00:01:47,620 Rudell: There's two patrol officers 36 00:01:47,620 --> 00:01:49,137 Sitting in the parking lot Of a strip mall. 37 00:01:49,137 --> 00:01:50,862 They're preparing Their paperwork 38 00:01:50,862 --> 00:01:53,655 And waiting for a supervisor to Come sign off on their reports 39 00:01:53,655 --> 00:01:55,931 So they can turn them in At the end of shift. 40 00:01:55,931 --> 00:01:57,068 What time is he Supposed to be here? 41 00:01:57,068 --> 00:01:58,448 I think at 4:00. 42 00:01:58,448 --> 00:02:00,448 [ tires screech, Glass shatters ] 43 00:02:00,448 --> 00:02:02,448 -what the hell was that? -let's go find out. 44 00:02:02,448 --> 00:02:03,965 [ engine starts ] 45 00:02:05,620 --> 00:02:08,965 The officers went about 75 To 100 yards down the road. 46 00:02:10,827 --> 00:02:13,586 They located an s.U.V. That had Ran into a telephone pole. 47 00:02:15,931 --> 00:02:18,793 Instinctively, with it being A one-vehicle accident, 48 00:02:18,793 --> 00:02:22,000 They think that it was Possibly an intoxicated driver 49 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,620 Or that maybe there Was another vehicle 50 00:02:23,620 --> 00:02:26,241 That was involved That fled the scene. 51 00:02:26,241 --> 00:02:31,655 ♪♪ 52 00:02:31,655 --> 00:02:33,137 What the hell? 53 00:02:33,137 --> 00:02:35,034 Holmes: they find this guy And he's slumped over. 54 00:02:35,034 --> 00:02:36,758 There's blood inside Of the car, too -- 55 00:02:36,758 --> 00:02:37,862 Lots of blood. 56 00:02:41,172 --> 00:02:42,724 Jim: What have you got? 57 00:02:42,724 --> 00:02:44,172 He's got a gunshot wound. 58 00:02:44,172 --> 00:02:46,448 They try to save his life. 59 00:02:46,448 --> 00:02:49,000 Oh-seven, I need a 47 And a first responder. 60 00:02:52,241 --> 00:02:54,344 [ cellphone vibrating ] 61 00:02:54,344 --> 00:03:00,724 ♪♪ 62 00:03:00,724 --> 00:03:07,103 ♪♪ 63 00:03:07,103 --> 00:03:08,862 This is demery. 64 00:03:08,862 --> 00:03:10,620 I was in a deep sleep When they called me 65 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:13,034 And I was informed that There was a car accident 66 00:03:13,034 --> 00:03:14,862 On hollywood avenue In shreveport. 67 00:03:14,862 --> 00:03:17,310 And the victim was being Transported to the hospital. 68 00:03:17,310 --> 00:03:18,862 The fact that I was called out 69 00:03:18,862 --> 00:03:22,620 Made me believe that This was a suspicious incident 70 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:24,689 And not just a traffic accident. 71 00:03:24,689 --> 00:03:26,551 I'm getting dressed now. 72 00:03:26,551 --> 00:03:28,689 Late-night calls Or early-morning calls 73 00:03:28,689 --> 00:03:31,758 As a homicide detective Are just a part of life. 74 00:03:34,310 --> 00:03:35,620 Doesn't matter if you're asleep 75 00:03:35,620 --> 00:03:38,517 Or watching a movie Or taking a shower, 76 00:03:38,517 --> 00:03:39,965 The phone's gonna ring, 77 00:03:39,965 --> 00:03:43,551 And you kind of prepare yourself For it to happen at any time. 78 00:03:45,551 --> 00:03:48,793 But they always come at The most inopportune times. 79 00:03:48,793 --> 00:03:53,896 ♪♪ 80 00:03:53,896 --> 00:03:56,103 When I get to the scene It's early morning, 81 00:03:56,103 --> 00:03:57,586 Still dark. 82 00:03:57,586 --> 00:03:59,931 The graveyard-shift Patrol officers were out. 83 00:03:59,931 --> 00:04:02,068 -hey, rod. -how you doing, jim? 84 00:04:02,068 --> 00:04:03,896 Doing better than The driver of that car. 85 00:04:05,413 --> 00:04:08,620 There's a vehicle that's Crashed into a utility pole. 86 00:04:08,620 --> 00:04:10,206 You know what happened? 87 00:04:10,206 --> 00:04:12,379 Well, we thought it was just A standard traffic accident. 88 00:04:12,379 --> 00:04:13,896 We got to investigate it, 89 00:04:13,896 --> 00:04:16,310 Found the guy had been Shot on the right side. 90 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:18,862 He said it appeared to be A lateral gunshot wound, 91 00:04:18,862 --> 00:04:20,551 And those are probably The most devastating 92 00:04:20,551 --> 00:04:24,068 Because they can go Completely across the body 93 00:04:24,068 --> 00:04:26,241 And the likelihood Of a vital organ 94 00:04:26,241 --> 00:04:28,413 Being struck Is pretty high. 95 00:04:28,413 --> 00:04:29,620 We have his I.D. 96 00:04:29,620 --> 00:04:31,344 Inside the vehicle Was a driver's license 97 00:04:31,344 --> 00:04:36,310 Of a male, black, 23 years old, Frederick henderson. 98 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:38,517 The vehicle was registered To a pamela ellis 99 00:04:38,517 --> 00:04:40,448 Of bossier city, Frederick's mother. 100 00:04:41,758 --> 00:04:43,206 The doe's At the hospital. 101 00:04:43,206 --> 00:04:45,068 I haven't talked to him yet. This kid gonna make it? 102 00:04:45,068 --> 00:04:47,172 It didn't look good, But we're not sure. 103 00:04:47,172 --> 00:04:55,241 ♪♪ 104 00:04:55,241 --> 00:04:56,448 Hey, jen. 105 00:04:56,448 --> 00:05:00,482 Look at that Right there. 106 00:05:00,482 --> 00:05:02,965 That's interesting. 107 00:05:02,965 --> 00:05:06,413 There was a considerable Amount of foliage -- shrubbery. 108 00:05:06,413 --> 00:05:08,379 It kind of indicated That the vehicle 109 00:05:08,379 --> 00:05:12,068 Had been somewhere Out of the city limits 110 00:05:12,068 --> 00:05:14,034 Or somewhere unpopulated. 111 00:05:14,034 --> 00:05:16,448 It was fresh, it was new, So that was noteworthy. 112 00:05:18,758 --> 00:05:20,793 I immediately noticed that There were no skid marks, 113 00:05:20,793 --> 00:05:23,758 So the vehicle went Full speed into the pole. 114 00:05:23,758 --> 00:05:25,034 This window been Down the whole time? 115 00:05:25,034 --> 00:05:26,586 Yes, sir. 116 00:05:26,586 --> 00:05:29,275 The passenger-side window of The vehicle was rolled down, 117 00:05:29,275 --> 00:05:33,448 And that created more questions Than answers. 118 00:05:33,448 --> 00:05:34,862 Had the window been up, 119 00:05:34,862 --> 00:05:36,482 The gunshot would've Went through the window. 120 00:05:36,482 --> 00:05:38,551 The fact that The window was down 121 00:05:38,551 --> 00:05:40,000 Made it difficult to determine 122 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,241 Whether the suspect was inside Or outside the vehicle. 123 00:05:45,482 --> 00:05:46,620 Inside the vehicle, There was some 124 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:49,517 High-velocity blood spatter. 125 00:05:49,517 --> 00:05:52,724 That showed that there was Significant blood loss. 126 00:05:52,724 --> 00:05:57,551 I wasn't sure if that person Would survive that gunshot. 127 00:05:58,793 --> 00:06:00,517 How was the body Positioned? 128 00:06:00,517 --> 00:06:02,000 Across the armrest. 129 00:06:03,482 --> 00:06:05,862 And the pants were Undone and down. 130 00:06:05,862 --> 00:06:07,931 I'm thinking the victim May have been robbed. 131 00:06:07,931 --> 00:06:12,344 Some people who rob Require the victim to disrobe. 132 00:06:12,344 --> 00:06:15,758 That's a delay tactic for That person to contact police 133 00:06:15,758 --> 00:06:17,275 So they don't leave immediately. 134 00:06:17,275 --> 00:06:20,965 Also, He was wearing panties. 135 00:06:20,965 --> 00:06:22,896 The victim had on Women's undergarments. 136 00:06:22,896 --> 00:06:24,931 So that suggested That maybe this person 137 00:06:24,931 --> 00:06:27,586 Was a cross-dresser or had An alternative lifestyle. 138 00:06:27,586 --> 00:06:29,000 This where The I.D. Was found? 139 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,206 Yes, sir. 140 00:06:30,206 --> 00:06:32,310 The fact that The victim may have lived 141 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:34,241 An alternative lifestyle, There's not any 142 00:06:34,241 --> 00:06:36,448 Conclusions you can Draw at that point, 143 00:06:36,448 --> 00:06:38,103 But it's definitely Something that adds 144 00:06:38,103 --> 00:06:40,620 An extra twist to the case. 145 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:42,862 Any valuables? -a cellphone. Do you want it? 146 00:06:42,862 --> 00:06:44,482 Yeah, please. 147 00:06:44,482 --> 00:06:46,206 A cellphone Is a big deal. 148 00:06:46,206 --> 00:06:49,137 People have their entire Lives on their cellphones. 149 00:06:49,137 --> 00:06:50,896 -here you go. -thanks. 150 00:06:54,448 --> 00:06:56,379 After I get the cellular phone, 151 00:06:56,379 --> 00:06:58,172 I realize it has a lock code 152 00:06:58,172 --> 00:07:01,379 So there's some level of privacy That the owner wanted. 153 00:07:03,068 --> 00:07:04,689 Damn locks, man. 154 00:07:04,689 --> 00:07:06,206 Well, there are a couple Of different ways 155 00:07:06,206 --> 00:07:08,482 That you can get information From a cellphone. 156 00:07:08,482 --> 00:07:10,034 One would require A search warrant, 157 00:07:10,034 --> 00:07:11,724 Where it's actually Submitted to an analyst, 158 00:07:11,724 --> 00:07:13,586 But that takes forever Because there are 159 00:07:13,586 --> 00:07:15,344 A bunch that need To be analyzed. 160 00:07:15,344 --> 00:07:18,413 The other is we get permission To get into the phone. 161 00:07:18,413 --> 00:07:20,000 Then you can Kind of scroll through 162 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,413 For any evidence That may be on it. 163 00:07:22,413 --> 00:07:24,068 Jenny, do me a favor. -sure. 164 00:07:24,068 --> 00:07:26,344 Hold onto this phone. Don't let it out of your sight. 165 00:07:26,344 --> 00:07:28,068 You got it. 166 00:07:28,068 --> 00:07:29,758 I didn't want to go Through the red tape 167 00:07:29,758 --> 00:07:32,000 Of having to check it out And see what's what, 168 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,758 So I had them take custody Until I could figure 169 00:07:34,758 --> 00:07:36,241 My next step out. 170 00:07:36,241 --> 00:07:40,413 [ cellphone rings ] 171 00:07:40,413 --> 00:07:41,655 This is demery. 172 00:07:41,655 --> 00:07:43,172 Greg: hey, rod, I'm here at the hospital. 173 00:07:43,172 --> 00:07:44,379 Hey, greg. 174 00:07:44,379 --> 00:07:45,827 I just found out That our victim, 175 00:07:45,827 --> 00:07:48,896 Frederick henderson, He didn't make it. 176 00:07:48,896 --> 00:07:51,379 [ sighs ] 177 00:07:51,379 --> 00:07:55,034 Well, contact his family and Make his death notification. 178 00:07:55,034 --> 00:07:56,482 Thanks, brother. 179 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:00,413 You got this guy's I.D.? -yeah. 180 00:08:00,413 --> 00:08:01,896 Here you go. -thank you. 181 00:08:03,655 --> 00:08:04,931 Did he expire? 182 00:08:07,103 --> 00:08:09,137 You mean is he dead? 183 00:08:09,137 --> 00:08:10,862 Yeah. 184 00:08:10,862 --> 00:08:13,000 Expire -- It's one of those words 185 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,827 That gets thrown around A lot in my line of work. 186 00:08:15,827 --> 00:08:17,620 But not by me. 187 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:19,379 It's not applicable to people. 188 00:08:19,379 --> 00:08:21,551 I think it's something For something that had 189 00:08:21,551 --> 00:08:26,068 An expiration date or Something that's inanimate. 190 00:08:26,068 --> 00:08:28,793 There should be A human connection. 191 00:08:28,793 --> 00:08:32,379 It's important to know that A person has been killed, 192 00:08:32,379 --> 00:08:34,689 A person's been murdered, A person is dead. 193 00:08:34,689 --> 00:08:36,517 Kind of humanizes it A little bit more. 194 00:08:36,517 --> 00:08:39,724 When you get too generic About certain aspects 195 00:08:39,724 --> 00:08:41,000 Of a homicide investigation, 196 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,965 You kind of lose That human connection. 197 00:08:43,965 --> 00:08:45,206 Hey, Did you work that murder 198 00:08:45,206 --> 00:08:46,551 Over in allendale The other night? 199 00:08:46,551 --> 00:08:48,379 No, I wasn't on night shift. What's up? 200 00:08:49,758 --> 00:08:50,965 Nothing. 201 00:08:50,965 --> 00:08:52,758 I got to go to the station And check on something. 202 00:08:52,758 --> 00:08:54,379 If you hear of anything, You let me know. 203 00:08:54,379 --> 00:08:55,724 -you got it, rod. -thanks, man. 204 00:08:55,724 --> 00:09:02,931 ♪♪ 205 00:09:02,931 --> 00:09:04,068 Demery: Hey, what's happening, man? 206 00:09:04,068 --> 00:09:05,172 How you doing? 207 00:09:05,172 --> 00:09:06,275 Pretty good. How you doing, man? 208 00:09:06,275 --> 00:09:08,827 Another day, Brother, another day. 209 00:09:08,827 --> 00:09:12,655 After I noticed The clothing of the victim, 210 00:09:12,655 --> 00:09:15,758 I realized that a few days prior There was a murder similar. 211 00:09:17,137 --> 00:09:19,620 There was a male, black, That was a cross-dresser 212 00:09:19,620 --> 00:09:21,689 That was killed. 213 00:09:21,689 --> 00:09:24,620 Then I thought about Just prior to that, 214 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:28,413 There was another victim That was killed 215 00:09:28,413 --> 00:09:31,379 That lived an alternative Homosexual lifestyle. 216 00:09:31,379 --> 00:09:33,724 So, at this point, I'm thinking that 217 00:09:33,724 --> 00:09:36,068 It's a serial-type killer. 218 00:09:36,068 --> 00:09:37,724 Reporter: but it's very Important to note 219 00:09:37,724 --> 00:09:39,655 Detectives have not Made any connection 220 00:09:39,655 --> 00:09:42,275 Between the two cases Whatsoever. 221 00:09:42,275 --> 00:09:45,482 So at this point, it could be Just a strange coincidence. 222 00:09:46,758 --> 00:09:48,413 There's no coincidences. 223 00:09:48,413 --> 00:09:50,620 I don't believe in coincidences. 224 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:52,896 I think the possibility of This being a serial murder 225 00:09:52,896 --> 00:09:57,103 Or someone killing the same Type of people is very high, 226 00:09:57,103 --> 00:10:00,172 And he needs to be Stopped immediately. 227 00:10:04,724 --> 00:10:11,310 ♪♪ 228 00:10:11,310 --> 00:10:17,965 ♪♪ 229 00:10:17,965 --> 00:10:20,310 Demery: I responded to a call Of a vehicle accident. 230 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:23,206 Turned out that the victim Was actually shot to death. 231 00:10:25,448 --> 00:10:27,931 The victim lived An alternative lifestyle. 232 00:10:27,931 --> 00:10:31,137 I learned that there Were two previous murders 233 00:10:31,137 --> 00:10:33,379 That matched this murder. 234 00:10:33,379 --> 00:10:35,862 Now I'm maybe looking For a serial killer. 235 00:10:35,862 --> 00:10:41,793 ♪♪ 236 00:10:41,793 --> 00:10:43,689 As I looked into The previous murders, 237 00:10:43,689 --> 00:10:46,344 The first that I read About is jock mckinney. 238 00:10:47,793 --> 00:10:51,965 50-year-old male, black, Cross-dresser, and openly gay. 239 00:10:51,965 --> 00:10:53,206 What's interesting about him 240 00:10:53,206 --> 00:10:54,689 Is that, you know, He's a cross-dresser, 241 00:10:54,689 --> 00:10:58,034 But he dresses more as a woman Than he does as a man. 242 00:10:58,034 --> 00:10:59,689 People knew him as valerie. 243 00:11:03,379 --> 00:11:05,931 Rudell: mckinney was walking Home from the store 244 00:11:05,931 --> 00:11:07,206 In the mooretown area. 245 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Sometime during that walk home, He was shot. 246 00:11:14,862 --> 00:11:16,689 Hey, punk. 247 00:11:16,689 --> 00:11:19,241 [ screams ] 248 00:11:19,241 --> 00:11:21,586 [ gasping ] 249 00:11:21,586 --> 00:11:25,034 A passerby went to check on him And found him bleeding. 250 00:11:25,034 --> 00:11:28,034 She called 911 And officers responded. 251 00:11:29,206 --> 00:11:32,655 Next, I read the report On terry golston. 252 00:11:32,655 --> 00:11:34,689 Golston was a 46-year-old male, Black, 253 00:11:34,689 --> 00:11:36,965 Openly gay, And cross dressed. 254 00:11:36,965 --> 00:11:39,551 Holmes: everybody likes terry. He's everybody's friend. 255 00:11:39,551 --> 00:11:42,724 A lot of the cross-dressers Hang out together in one area. 256 00:11:42,724 --> 00:11:44,413 Well, hey, ms. Terry. 257 00:11:44,413 --> 00:11:45,931 Give me some loving. 258 00:11:45,931 --> 00:11:48,310 And he's known by a lot Of people across the area. 259 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:50,655 You look fabulous. 260 00:11:50,655 --> 00:11:52,793 Golston was on the street And what was reported as 261 00:11:52,793 --> 00:11:55,620 And investigated as a robbery. 262 00:11:55,620 --> 00:11:57,275 Oh, my god. 263 00:11:57,275 --> 00:11:58,413 [ screams ] 264 00:12:01,206 --> 00:12:03,000 Golston was found Laying in the street 265 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,551 Bleeding with gunshot wounds. 266 00:12:05,586 --> 00:12:07,000 Oh, my god, terry! 267 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,344 Someone help! 268 00:12:08,344 --> 00:12:09,827 He was transported To the hospital 269 00:12:09,827 --> 00:12:11,241 Where he later died. 270 00:12:11,241 --> 00:12:15,034 Help! Some-- terry! 271 00:12:16,344 --> 00:12:18,379 Demery: after comparing The three victims, 272 00:12:18,379 --> 00:12:20,137 I realized that there's No possible way 273 00:12:20,137 --> 00:12:21,862 This is just a coincidence. 274 00:12:21,862 --> 00:12:23,862 With all three victims, 275 00:12:23,862 --> 00:12:25,793 There's a pattern Or a common thread, 276 00:12:25,793 --> 00:12:28,379 And that is They're cross-dressers. 277 00:12:28,379 --> 00:12:31,379 The other point is, is they are All from the same part of town, 278 00:12:31,379 --> 00:12:32,689 About a mile and a half, Two miles 279 00:12:32,689 --> 00:12:35,206 From where my victim Henderson was found. 280 00:12:36,724 --> 00:12:38,034 Hey, rod. How's it coming? 281 00:12:38,034 --> 00:12:41,000 Hey, man. Listen. 282 00:12:43,931 --> 00:12:46,448 You remember The cross-dressing murder vic 283 00:12:46,448 --> 00:12:48,206 We had last week, Terry golston? 284 00:12:48,206 --> 00:12:50,689 -yeah, over in allendale. -yeah, well, listen. 285 00:12:50,689 --> 00:12:52,586 I'm starting to think that The frederick henderson case 286 00:12:52,586 --> 00:12:56,275 Might be related, as well As the one with jock mckinney. 287 00:12:56,275 --> 00:12:57,344 Really? 288 00:12:57,344 --> 00:12:58,896 Somebody dropped the ball On this one. 289 00:12:58,896 --> 00:13:00,793 Let me show you something. 290 00:13:00,793 --> 00:13:03,482 Unfortunately, I think The victims in these cases 291 00:13:03,482 --> 00:13:05,000 Didn't get the justice 292 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,206 Or the attention That they should have. 293 00:13:07,206 --> 00:13:09,068 What I'm doing now Is I'm looking for 294 00:13:09,068 --> 00:13:10,551 Somebody who may be responsible 295 00:13:10,551 --> 00:13:12,137 For all three of these murders 296 00:13:12,137 --> 00:13:16,310 And evidence that ties them To every one of those cases. 297 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:18,068 At this point, We strongly feel 298 00:13:18,068 --> 00:13:20,793 That we may have a serial killer In shreveport. 299 00:13:20,793 --> 00:13:23,206 It puts the people In this position 300 00:13:23,206 --> 00:13:27,655 Who are openly gay Cross-dressers at great risk. 301 00:13:27,655 --> 00:13:29,413 There was a great Possibility that this person 302 00:13:29,413 --> 00:13:31,724 Could strike again, So it's very important 303 00:13:31,724 --> 00:13:34,034 That we figure out Who this person is. 304 00:13:34,034 --> 00:13:35,137 That's crazy. 305 00:13:35,137 --> 00:13:36,379 All right, listen. 306 00:13:36,379 --> 00:13:37,689 I'm gonna go make this Death notification, 307 00:13:37,689 --> 00:13:39,068 And you and I will Catch up later. 308 00:13:39,068 --> 00:13:40,413 -all right. Sounds good. -bye. 309 00:13:41,862 --> 00:13:43,827 Demery: death notifications Are never easy. 310 00:13:43,827 --> 00:13:50,068 ♪♪ 311 00:13:50,068 --> 00:13:53,000 But in a case like this, It's even more difficult. 312 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,862 [ dog barking ] 313 00:13:55,862 --> 00:13:57,379 I knew that there May be a possibility 314 00:13:57,379 --> 00:13:58,724 That his family didn't know 315 00:13:58,724 --> 00:14:01,103 What his private lifestyle Consisted of. 316 00:14:01,103 --> 00:14:02,482 I knew that maybe, At some point, 317 00:14:02,482 --> 00:14:03,896 I was gonna have to reveal that. 318 00:14:03,896 --> 00:14:13,275 ♪♪ 319 00:14:13,275 --> 00:14:14,517 Ma'am, I'm detective demery 320 00:14:14,517 --> 00:14:16,137 With the shreveport Police department. 321 00:14:16,137 --> 00:14:17,931 Does frederick henderson Live here? 322 00:14:19,758 --> 00:14:21,172 Yes. I'm his mother. 323 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,068 May I come in, Please? 324 00:14:26,206 --> 00:14:28,413 Yeah. 325 00:14:28,413 --> 00:14:32,413 I'm aware that their Life's gonna change forever 326 00:14:32,413 --> 00:14:35,310 Into a world that They never anticipated. 327 00:14:37,275 --> 00:14:39,931 I don't understand. Why are you here? 328 00:14:42,344 --> 00:14:45,068 Ma'am, there's no easy Way to tell you this. 329 00:14:45,965 --> 00:14:49,000 They say, "I'm Sorry to tell you..." 330 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,103 [sniffles] "Your son has been Shot and killed." 331 00:14:52,103 --> 00:14:54,448 What? 332 00:14:54,448 --> 00:14:58,137 I heard him, But I didn't hear him. 333 00:15:00,724 --> 00:15:03,275 So... 334 00:15:03,275 --> 00:15:05,965 I don't know what has happened Because I was lost. 335 00:15:07,275 --> 00:15:11,827 To have my baby to be gone, My only son. 336 00:15:11,827 --> 00:15:13,931 Ma'am, I'm really sorry. 337 00:15:13,931 --> 00:15:17,379 Demery: She clearly was, you know, Devastated when I told her. 338 00:15:17,379 --> 00:15:19,310 A mother who has Given birth to a child 339 00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:21,206 And that child is murdered -- 340 00:15:21,206 --> 00:15:24,689 I don't know that that's Comparable to anything else. 341 00:15:24,689 --> 00:15:26,620 [ cries ] 342 00:15:26,620 --> 00:15:29,413 Don't cry, grandma. 343 00:15:29,413 --> 00:15:32,000 It was a shock to me 344 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,551 That somebody would Take his life. 345 00:15:36,103 --> 00:15:37,344 Who could've done this? 346 00:15:38,275 --> 00:15:39,517 I don't know. 347 00:15:39,517 --> 00:15:41,862 Honestly, I'm hoping You can help me with that. 348 00:15:44,965 --> 00:15:46,724 What do you Need to know? 349 00:15:46,724 --> 00:15:48,655 I'll tell you whatever You think will help. 350 00:15:48,655 --> 00:15:51,172 Demery: She did maintain her composure, 351 00:15:51,172 --> 00:15:54,965 And she was able to contribute To the investigation. 352 00:15:54,965 --> 00:15:57,689 The fact that she was able To do that was amazing. 353 00:15:57,689 --> 00:15:59,068 Why don't you start off By telling me 354 00:15:59,068 --> 00:16:01,482 A little bit about frederick And what was he like? 355 00:16:05,103 --> 00:16:06,965 Well... 356 00:16:08,137 --> 00:16:09,862 I had five kids -- four girls, 357 00:16:09,862 --> 00:16:12,103 And fred was The only son that I had. 358 00:16:12,103 --> 00:16:14,103 He was protective of his family. 359 00:16:14,103 --> 00:16:15,551 Fred thought he was The man of the house, 360 00:16:15,551 --> 00:16:16,758 And he always Thought he could just 361 00:16:16,758 --> 00:16:18,310 Tell everybody what to do. 362 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:20,310 Just press it together And fold it. 363 00:16:20,310 --> 00:16:22,000 You're not making this For the president. 364 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,241 You're just making It for yourself. 365 00:16:23,241 --> 00:16:25,034 And everybody would Do what fred say do. 366 00:16:25,034 --> 00:16:27,758 Fred was the glue that Kept the family together. 367 00:16:27,758 --> 00:16:29,551 He had a lot of friends. 368 00:16:29,551 --> 00:16:31,931 People always in and out Of the house, you know. 369 00:16:33,241 --> 00:16:35,620 Demery: she explained that He was a very outgoing 370 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:37,379 And happy person. 371 00:16:38,517 --> 00:16:40,689 His mother and everyone else In his family 372 00:16:40,689 --> 00:16:42,655 Knew his lifestyle And accepted his lifestyle. 373 00:16:42,655 --> 00:16:46,103 So fred came out on His junior-high year. 374 00:16:46,103 --> 00:16:48,724 And I just told fred, "You my son 375 00:16:48,724 --> 00:16:50,275 And I'ma love you regardless." 376 00:16:50,275 --> 00:16:52,620 I feel like that was a big Burden that was off of him. 377 00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:56,241 He was proud of what he was, And I was proud of him, too. 378 00:16:56,241 --> 00:16:58,655 Frederick owned His homosexuality. 379 00:16:58,655 --> 00:17:01,758 He would wear dresses, He would wear purses. 380 00:17:01,758 --> 00:17:05,655 He was just who he was. 381 00:17:05,655 --> 00:17:07,655 Did he have beef With anyone? 382 00:17:07,655 --> 00:17:08,862 Or can you think of anyone 383 00:17:08,862 --> 00:17:10,724 Who might've wanted To do him some harm? 384 00:17:12,931 --> 00:17:14,793 Well, there's one thing I can think of. 385 00:17:14,793 --> 00:17:19,103 A couple months before, Fred and a young man 386 00:17:19,103 --> 00:17:21,103 Had an altercation, A fight. 387 00:17:21,103 --> 00:17:22,551 Ow! 388 00:17:22,551 --> 00:17:25,137 Fred came home with Blood all over him. 389 00:17:25,137 --> 00:17:27,551 He had pulled fred's earring Out of his ear, 390 00:17:27,551 --> 00:17:29,068 And his ear was split. 391 00:17:29,068 --> 00:17:32,068 Do you know Who that person was? 392 00:17:32,068 --> 00:17:33,551 I don't know. 393 00:17:33,551 --> 00:17:34,862 Demery: she didn't have A whole lot of detail 394 00:17:34,862 --> 00:17:37,068 On the fight or the altercation 395 00:17:37,068 --> 00:17:39,068 Where frederick's earring Was ripped from his ear, 396 00:17:39,068 --> 00:17:41,448 But the fact that It actually happened 397 00:17:41,448 --> 00:17:44,000 Was the significant point. 398 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,793 My daughter may be Able to help you. 399 00:17:46,793 --> 00:17:48,517 She and fred always Talked about things. 400 00:17:48,517 --> 00:17:49,620 I can ask her if you'd like. 401 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:51,310 That could definitely Be helpful. 402 00:17:53,413 --> 00:17:54,620 You know what? 403 00:17:54,620 --> 00:17:58,206 Um, if you really Want to know about fred, 404 00:17:58,206 --> 00:17:59,655 Check his cellphone. 405 00:17:59,655 --> 00:18:02,413 He was on that thing All the time. 406 00:18:02,413 --> 00:18:05,000 I said if fred is Arguing with anybody, 407 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,482 He's texting them. 408 00:18:06,482 --> 00:18:08,931 His phone was next to him At all times. 409 00:18:08,931 --> 00:18:11,379 As it turns out, I actually Happen to have his phone. 410 00:18:11,379 --> 00:18:13,965 The problem is I don't have the passcode. 411 00:18:15,241 --> 00:18:16,793 Jayden: I do. 412 00:18:17,689 --> 00:18:20,413 Jayden and fred used to always Go everywhere together. 413 00:18:20,413 --> 00:18:22,241 And my grandson saw Him put the number 414 00:18:22,241 --> 00:18:23,551 And he remembered the number. 415 00:18:23,551 --> 00:18:24,551 What is it? 416 00:18:24,551 --> 00:18:28,482 6-4-7-0. 417 00:18:28,482 --> 00:18:30,103 Do I have permission To go through 418 00:18:30,103 --> 00:18:32,344 Your son's phone Once I unlock it? 419 00:18:32,344 --> 00:18:33,931 Of course. 420 00:18:33,931 --> 00:18:36,517 Demery: the fact that I got the Passcode to the phone was huge. 421 00:18:36,517 --> 00:18:40,034 The cellular phone can lead Me to exactly what happened. 422 00:18:40,034 --> 00:18:43,482 Take my number, And if there's anything 423 00:18:43,482 --> 00:18:46,448 That I can do for you, please, Don't hesitate to call me. 424 00:18:46,448 --> 00:18:48,482 Thank you. 425 00:18:48,482 --> 00:18:49,551 I'll let myself out. 426 00:18:49,551 --> 00:18:53,793 [ crying ] 427 00:18:53,793 --> 00:18:56,137 Getting into the cellphone Is a gold mine. 428 00:18:58,241 --> 00:18:59,758 With the passcode on the phone, 429 00:18:59,758 --> 00:19:02,586 I'll eventually find out who Frederick was in contact with 430 00:19:02,586 --> 00:19:04,413 And be that much closer To finding out 431 00:19:04,413 --> 00:19:06,379 Who killed him and The other two people. 432 00:19:11,068 --> 00:19:19,275 ♪♪ 433 00:19:19,275 --> 00:19:22,344 Demery: So, I made notification to Frederick's mother of his death. 434 00:19:22,344 --> 00:19:24,275 I've gotten the code To his cellphone, 435 00:19:24,275 --> 00:19:26,896 And I'm hoping this phone Will lead me to his killer. 436 00:19:28,551 --> 00:19:30,965 One of the crime-scene techs Has possession of the phone, 437 00:19:30,965 --> 00:19:33,931 So I need to call that Crime-scene investigator 438 00:19:33,931 --> 00:19:36,310 And meet them to get the phone. 439 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:37,827 Jennifer, it's rod. 440 00:19:37,827 --> 00:19:39,482 Listen, I'm getting ready To duck into the morgue. 441 00:19:39,482 --> 00:19:40,724 When I'm done, would you meet me 442 00:19:40,724 --> 00:19:42,379 With the cellphone At the station? 443 00:19:45,793 --> 00:19:48,482 But first, I need to check in With the medical examiner 444 00:19:48,482 --> 00:19:50,724 And see if He's uncovered anything 445 00:19:50,724 --> 00:19:53,172 That might bring me closer To catching frederick's killer. 446 00:19:55,034 --> 00:19:56,896 What's happening, Richie? 447 00:19:56,896 --> 00:19:58,655 Hey, rod. 448 00:19:58,655 --> 00:20:01,172 I haven't Seen the body before. 449 00:20:01,172 --> 00:20:04,034 I'm looking at frederick And I'm realizing 450 00:20:04,034 --> 00:20:06,724 That it is just a boy, It's a kid. 451 00:20:06,724 --> 00:20:08,827 He was killed at Such a young age. 452 00:20:09,896 --> 00:20:12,275 And how tragic it was -- 23 years old. 453 00:20:13,517 --> 00:20:17,103 So, any signs of powder burns On our victim? 454 00:20:17,103 --> 00:20:18,551 No, none. 455 00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:21,758 Absence of powder burns Suggests that the shot 456 00:20:21,758 --> 00:20:24,724 Was at least 30 inches Or further back. 457 00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:26,655 So it's very possible That the shooter 458 00:20:26,655 --> 00:20:29,448 Was outside the vehicle When frederick was shot. 459 00:20:29,448 --> 00:20:31,137 Here's your bullet. 460 00:20:31,137 --> 00:20:32,586 I learned that The victim was shot 461 00:20:32,586 --> 00:20:34,103 With a 9-millimeter handgun. 462 00:20:35,241 --> 00:20:37,620 And that bullet Passed through his arm 463 00:20:37,620 --> 00:20:40,068 And it went through His right side 464 00:20:40,068 --> 00:20:44,137 And eventually collapsed a lung. 465 00:20:44,137 --> 00:20:47,172 Was there any signs of A fight or a struggle? 466 00:20:47,172 --> 00:20:48,344 The only thing I noticed was 467 00:20:48,344 --> 00:20:51,103 There was a slight tear On his earlobe. 468 00:20:52,448 --> 00:20:54,586 But it was in the process Of healing. 469 00:20:54,586 --> 00:20:56,034 The injury to his earlobe 470 00:20:56,034 --> 00:20:58,517 Matches the story That frederick's mother told me. 471 00:20:59,655 --> 00:21:01,758 Okay. Ah, well. Thanks, man. -yeah. 472 00:21:01,758 --> 00:21:03,413 -appreciate it. -sure. Hope it helps. 473 00:21:03,413 --> 00:21:05,241 Yeah, did for sure. 474 00:21:05,241 --> 00:21:14,275 ♪♪ 475 00:21:14,275 --> 00:21:15,724 What's happening, jen? -hey. 476 00:21:15,724 --> 00:21:17,586 How are you? You've got that phone for me? 477 00:21:17,586 --> 00:21:19,689 Sure do. Just need you to Sign right here for me. 478 00:21:19,689 --> 00:21:21,206 Once I leave the morgue, 479 00:21:21,206 --> 00:21:24,000 I attempt to get into Frederick's cellular phone. 480 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,206 -all right, here you go. -you're the best. 481 00:21:26,206 --> 00:21:27,586 All right, see you. See you, greg. 482 00:21:27,586 --> 00:21:28,862 Hey, see you, jen. 483 00:21:28,862 --> 00:21:35,137 ♪♪ 484 00:21:35,137 --> 00:21:38,000 Once I unlock the phone, The wallpaper picture was him. 485 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,275 This was definitely Frederick's cellular phone. 486 00:21:41,275 --> 00:21:43,413 Hey, greg? -yeah? 487 00:21:43,413 --> 00:21:44,620 Man, I got into This kid's phone. 488 00:21:44,620 --> 00:21:46,137 I'm gonna need your help With this, brother. 489 00:21:46,137 --> 00:21:48,931 Rudell takes the phone And starts going through it. 490 00:21:48,931 --> 00:21:50,103 I'll write them out On the board, 491 00:21:50,103 --> 00:21:52,034 You call them out to me. -sounds good. 492 00:21:52,034 --> 00:21:53,896 Rudell: Our plan is that we're gonna 493 00:21:53,896 --> 00:21:56,034 Create a log on a whiteboard, 494 00:21:56,034 --> 00:21:57,620 We'll write the names And numbers down 495 00:21:57,620 --> 00:21:59,517 And find out if they knew What was going on 496 00:21:59,517 --> 00:22:01,344 Or what he was doing That evening. 497 00:22:01,344 --> 00:22:05,517 We got 318-555... 498 00:22:05,517 --> 00:22:07,931 Demery: as rudell scrolls Through henderson's phone log, 499 00:22:07,931 --> 00:22:09,103 I'm keeping a record of 500 00:22:09,103 --> 00:22:11,275 What names are associated With what numbers. 501 00:22:11,275 --> 00:22:13,620 We got a call to mom. 502 00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:17,275 Some contacts are saved As who they are by name 503 00:22:17,275 --> 00:22:19,586 Like his mother Or a relative. 504 00:22:19,586 --> 00:22:22,206 We have three calls To jayden. 505 00:22:22,206 --> 00:22:25,034 And some phone calls Were just phone numbers, 506 00:22:25,034 --> 00:22:28,413 Which means that it's not saved In his telephone book. 507 00:22:28,413 --> 00:22:31,068 We got that 318 number Popping up again. 508 00:22:32,344 --> 00:22:34,689 We notice that there's A recurring number 509 00:22:34,689 --> 00:22:36,379 With the same area code. 510 00:22:36,379 --> 00:22:38,586 Rudell: there was no name Associated with that number. 511 00:22:38,586 --> 00:22:41,310 And that number Is the same number 512 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:44,000 That was the last call That was received 513 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,689 And answered on Henderson's phone. 514 00:22:46,689 --> 00:22:48,172 The person he talked to last 515 00:22:48,172 --> 00:22:50,448 Is the most important person That we need to talk to 516 00:22:50,448 --> 00:22:52,344 Because they could give us The most current information 517 00:22:52,344 --> 00:22:54,793 On where he was Or who he was with. 518 00:22:54,793 --> 00:22:56,344 They may even be the suspect. 519 00:22:56,344 --> 00:22:59,103 [ cellphone rings ]Hold on a second. 520 00:22:59,103 --> 00:23:01,241 This is demery. 521 00:23:01,241 --> 00:23:02,758 Hey, hold on one second. 522 00:23:02,758 --> 00:23:04,034 I'm gonna take this call. -okay. 523 00:23:04,034 --> 00:23:06,068 Hey, how are you, Pam? 524 00:23:06,068 --> 00:23:08,758 Rudell: at that time I decided To look at the facebook app. 525 00:23:08,758 --> 00:23:12,965 I see a message from A breonne whitaker 526 00:23:12,965 --> 00:23:14,655 Saying that he's trying To get in contact 527 00:23:14,655 --> 00:23:16,586 With frederick henderson. 528 00:23:16,586 --> 00:23:19,620 And then he gives a telephone Number in that message. 529 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:22,206 The 318 number in the message 530 00:23:22,206 --> 00:23:24,896 Is the same number That is associated with 531 00:23:24,896 --> 00:23:28,206 The number that has no name On the call log. 532 00:23:28,206 --> 00:23:30,724 We know that the last Person that called 533 00:23:30,724 --> 00:23:33,586 Or talked to henderson Was breonne whitaker. 534 00:23:33,586 --> 00:23:35,689 Demery: as rudell gets deeper Into the phone, 535 00:23:35,689 --> 00:23:37,517 I'm talking to Frederick's mother. 536 00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:39,724 She explains that she found out 537 00:23:39,724 --> 00:23:41,551 Where he was when The fight took place 538 00:23:41,551 --> 00:23:43,344 Where his earring was Ripped from his ear. 539 00:23:43,344 --> 00:23:45,517 Frederick had told My daughter ashley 540 00:23:45,517 --> 00:23:49,758 Exactly where the guy live at On kent street. 541 00:23:49,758 --> 00:23:51,310 Demery: kent street Is about a block away 542 00:23:51,310 --> 00:23:53,000 From hollywood avenue 543 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,344 Where the wreck And the victim was discovered. 544 00:23:56,344 --> 00:23:57,758 That was pretty significant. 545 00:23:59,137 --> 00:24:01,896 Hey, so that's pamela, Frederick's mother. 546 00:24:01,896 --> 00:24:03,517 She said that The place where he had 547 00:24:03,517 --> 00:24:06,000 The earring pulled out of his Ear is over on kent street. 548 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,103 We run breonne whitaker's Phone number 549 00:24:08,103 --> 00:24:10,620 And name through our Police management system. 550 00:24:13,275 --> 00:24:15,310 I find the address Is on kent street 551 00:24:15,310 --> 00:24:16,689 Is where he lives. 552 00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:20,206 Henderson's family told demery 553 00:24:20,206 --> 00:24:22,758 That henderson had been In a fight with someone 554 00:24:22,758 --> 00:24:24,241 In a yellow house. 555 00:24:24,241 --> 00:24:26,275 When we looked up whitaker's House on google maps, 556 00:24:26,275 --> 00:24:28,931 It was a yellow house On kent street. 557 00:24:28,931 --> 00:24:31,103 So, What are you thinking? 558 00:24:31,103 --> 00:24:34,344 I'm thinking We found our suspect. 559 00:24:34,344 --> 00:24:36,206 At this point, We feel very strongly 560 00:24:36,206 --> 00:24:39,655 That breonne whitaker might Have some answers for us. 561 00:24:39,655 --> 00:24:43,655 Know what, Before we go grab him, 562 00:24:43,655 --> 00:24:45,586 Let's look at his priors. 563 00:24:45,586 --> 00:24:47,172 We began to Look at his record 564 00:24:47,172 --> 00:24:48,620 And learned that Breonne whitaker 565 00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:51,620 Had been arrested for a murder When he was a juvenile. 566 00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:53,310 How old was he When he did that? 567 00:24:53,310 --> 00:24:55,931 Says, uh, 14. 568 00:24:55,931 --> 00:24:58,206 Killed some guy Named kennedy. 569 00:24:58,206 --> 00:24:59,586 Take a look at his photo. 570 00:25:01,758 --> 00:25:04,241 Oh, man! 571 00:25:04,241 --> 00:25:07,448 Demery: You got to be kidding me. 572 00:25:07,448 --> 00:25:08,793 When I looked, I realized 573 00:25:08,793 --> 00:25:10,517 I know exactly who This little bastard is. 574 00:25:10,517 --> 00:25:12,034 I've arrested him before. 575 00:25:16,689 --> 00:25:25,448 ♪♪ 576 00:25:25,448 --> 00:25:27,482 Demery: I've got access to The victim's phone 577 00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:28,965 And when I get in the phone, 578 00:25:28,965 --> 00:25:32,310 I realize that his last contact Was with a breonne whitaker. 579 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:35,068 You know, I know him. 580 00:25:35,068 --> 00:25:37,827 I remember whitaker because I've arrested him before. 581 00:25:40,068 --> 00:25:41,965 I distinctly remember this case 582 00:25:41,965 --> 00:25:44,551 Because of The sheer brutality of it. 583 00:25:44,551 --> 00:25:46,000 [ chuckles ] Check out the old dude. 584 00:25:47,206 --> 00:25:48,448 Rodgers: in that case, 585 00:25:48,448 --> 00:25:51,137 Breonne and a couple of His other friends, 586 00:25:51,137 --> 00:25:53,931 They were out walking around In the neighborhood 587 00:25:53,931 --> 00:25:55,689 And there was this Older gentleman, 588 00:25:55,689 --> 00:26:01,137 Mr. Kennedy, who picks up cans, Might be homeless. 589 00:26:01,137 --> 00:26:02,517 Yo, you stink. 590 00:26:04,172 --> 00:26:06,172 Yo, man, You need to get a job. 591 00:26:06,172 --> 00:26:08,172 -yo, you stink. -[ laughs ] 592 00:26:08,172 --> 00:26:11,275 Why don't you boys go on And respect your elders? 593 00:26:12,379 --> 00:26:15,034 Mr. Kennedy was telling breonne And his friends 594 00:26:15,034 --> 00:26:17,448 On how they should act As young men. 595 00:26:17,448 --> 00:26:19,655 They took offense to that. 596 00:26:19,655 --> 00:26:21,137 Who you talking to, Old man? 597 00:26:22,413 --> 00:26:24,206 I fought in vietnam. I shed blood for this country. 598 00:26:24,206 --> 00:26:25,482 What do you punks do? 599 00:26:25,482 --> 00:26:26,896 Punks? 600 00:26:26,896 --> 00:26:28,034 Who you talking to? 601 00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:32,655 ♪♪ 602 00:26:32,655 --> 00:26:34,620 Rodgers: he punched mr. Kennedy In the face, 603 00:26:34,620 --> 00:26:37,896 And mr. Kennedy took the back Of his head on the concrete. 604 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,482 Demery: The man died from the blow, 605 00:26:42,482 --> 00:26:45,448 And breonne was charged With manslaughter. 606 00:26:45,448 --> 00:26:46,896 Come on, brother, Let's go! 607 00:26:48,965 --> 00:26:50,448 Being that he was 14 years old, 608 00:26:50,448 --> 00:26:52,758 He was sentenced to The maximum sentence 609 00:26:52,758 --> 00:26:54,896 Available to a juvenile At that age. 610 00:26:54,896 --> 00:26:57,206 That was considered to be Juvenile life. 611 00:26:57,206 --> 00:27:01,931 However, the judge can Release offenders earlier 612 00:27:01,931 --> 00:27:03,689 If the judge so chooses. 613 00:27:03,689 --> 00:27:06,896 Breonne was released At the age of 17. 614 00:27:07,931 --> 00:27:09,241 Demery: has he been out of jail Long enough 615 00:27:09,241 --> 00:27:10,379 To commit these three Murders or what? 616 00:27:10,379 --> 00:27:13,379 I don't know. Let's look for a release date. 617 00:27:13,379 --> 00:27:15,482 Rudell: during the timeframe Of those three murders 618 00:27:15,482 --> 00:27:17,103 That we were now looking at, 619 00:27:17,103 --> 00:27:20,000 Breonne whitaker is Out of juvenile detention 620 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,758 And free on the streets. 621 00:27:21,758 --> 00:27:23,827 All right, There's our answer. 622 00:27:23,827 --> 00:27:25,862 Let's go pick up our buddy, Mr. Whitaker. 623 00:27:29,379 --> 00:27:31,862 Demery: so we head straight to The house on kent street. 624 00:27:31,862 --> 00:27:41,068 ♪♪ 625 00:27:41,068 --> 00:27:43,379 As rudell and I go To whitaker's home, 626 00:27:43,379 --> 00:27:45,448 We decide that we're Gonna go to the door 627 00:27:45,448 --> 00:27:47,103 And we're gonna have guns drawn. 628 00:27:48,965 --> 00:27:51,517 Because we don't know Exactly what's gonna happen. 629 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,034 Obviously, it's a possibility 630 00:27:56,034 --> 00:27:57,758 That we're coming into contact 631 00:27:57,758 --> 00:27:59,586 With someone who Just committed a murder. 632 00:27:59,586 --> 00:28:01,965 We don't know Their state of mind. 633 00:28:01,965 --> 00:28:04,206 So we're prepared to Take care of business. 634 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:10,137 What's going on? 635 00:28:10,137 --> 00:28:11,551 Demery: Breonne's mother answers. 636 00:28:11,551 --> 00:28:13,793 Ma'am, we're with the Shreveport police department. 637 00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:14,965 We're looking for Breonne whitaker. 638 00:28:14,965 --> 00:28:17,034 Is he here? -what's this about? 639 00:28:17,034 --> 00:28:18,344 We'll get to that In a minute, ma'am. 640 00:28:18,344 --> 00:28:19,620 Where is he? 641 00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:21,103 He's in the next room. 642 00:28:21,103 --> 00:28:23,482 Step away from the door, Please. 643 00:28:23,482 --> 00:28:33,344 ♪♪ 644 00:28:33,344 --> 00:28:35,827 Breonne! 645 00:28:35,827 --> 00:28:37,620 Demery: Breonne's asleep on the couch. 646 00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:39,793 I'm relieved that he's In a vulnerable position. 647 00:28:39,793 --> 00:28:42,620 At this point, We're watching for his hands 648 00:28:42,620 --> 00:28:44,724 To make sure he's not Armed with a weapon. 649 00:28:44,724 --> 00:28:46,620 Breonne! 650 00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:49,275 Breonne! 651 00:28:49,275 --> 00:28:52,758 He didn't respond, and then I yelled it a third time. 652 00:28:52,758 --> 00:28:54,689 Breonne! 653 00:28:54,689 --> 00:28:56,724 He's now moving around. 654 00:28:56,724 --> 00:28:58,344 I tell him to get up. 655 00:28:58,344 --> 00:28:59,689 Show me your hands. 656 00:28:59,689 --> 00:29:01,103 Show -- slow. -easy. 657 00:29:01,103 --> 00:29:04,241 Show me your hands slow. 658 00:29:04,241 --> 00:29:06,482 Easy. Okay, now stand up. 659 00:29:06,482 --> 00:29:08,620 He got up. 660 00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:10,241 He was shirtless, 661 00:29:10,241 --> 00:29:12,482 So it was easy to See his waistband 662 00:29:12,482 --> 00:29:14,793 And he wasn't armed, So I holstered my firearm 663 00:29:14,793 --> 00:29:16,172 And then got him outside. 664 00:29:20,241 --> 00:29:21,551 This about that punk? 665 00:29:21,551 --> 00:29:25,241 His first utterance is, "Is this about that punk?" 666 00:29:25,241 --> 00:29:27,724 And in the south, 667 00:29:27,724 --> 00:29:31,137 Or at least in shreveport In some neighborhoods, 668 00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:35,482 A derogatory way to refer To a gay man is a punk. 669 00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:39,068 I realize that he knew exactly What I was talking about. 670 00:29:39,068 --> 00:29:42,896 Before we go any further, I need to read you your rights. 671 00:29:42,896 --> 00:29:45,275 You have the right To remain silent. 672 00:29:45,275 --> 00:29:46,827 After I advise Him of his rights, 673 00:29:46,827 --> 00:29:48,482 I just let him talk. 674 00:29:48,482 --> 00:29:52,517 He told me that his friend And the victim 675 00:29:52,517 --> 00:29:54,724 Had some sort of argument, 676 00:29:54,724 --> 00:29:59,103 And his friend Shot the victim. 677 00:29:59,103 --> 00:30:01,379 So, now, why did your Friend shoot him? 678 00:30:01,379 --> 00:30:02,551 I don't know. 679 00:30:02,551 --> 00:30:03,655 Jimmy and the punk Was just fighting, 680 00:30:03,655 --> 00:30:06,137 And jimmy shot the punk. 681 00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:09,517 I know Whitaker's lying to me. 682 00:30:09,517 --> 00:30:12,620 I know who he's talking about, And he's locked up. 683 00:30:12,620 --> 00:30:13,931 He was in jail at The time of the crime, 684 00:30:13,931 --> 00:30:15,862 So I know That's not possible. 685 00:30:15,862 --> 00:30:17,793 Jimmy lives around here? 686 00:30:17,793 --> 00:30:20,310 Yeah, not too far. 687 00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:22,896 Okay. Got an address for him? 688 00:30:22,896 --> 00:30:26,689 -nah. -you don't have an address? 689 00:30:26,689 --> 00:30:29,551 Some of the statements that He gives me are not truthful, 690 00:30:29,551 --> 00:30:30,896 But I'm not gonna Interrupt him. 691 00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:33,172 I want to keep that conversation And that flow going. 692 00:30:33,172 --> 00:30:36,241 It's better to get him Telling me what happened 693 00:30:36,241 --> 00:30:39,103 And getting whatever evidence I can collect. 694 00:30:39,103 --> 00:30:41,103 Then I go back And punch holes in his story 695 00:30:41,103 --> 00:30:43,896 And try to find out What's actually true 696 00:30:43,896 --> 00:30:45,448 And what's not. 697 00:30:45,448 --> 00:30:49,551 Now this guy that jimmy shot, Something happened to his ear. 698 00:30:49,551 --> 00:30:51,310 You know what happened? 699 00:30:51,310 --> 00:30:54,000 I bring up the fact that The victim, henderson, 700 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,689 Had an earring ripped From his ear at one point. 701 00:30:56,689 --> 00:30:58,275 And whitaker told me About a fight 702 00:30:58,275 --> 00:31:00,310 That he had Had with henderson. 703 00:31:00,310 --> 00:31:03,103 Jimmy and this punk Was on my back porch, 704 00:31:03,103 --> 00:31:07,206 Like, Doing nasty stuff. 705 00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:09,068 What kind of nasty stuff? 706 00:31:09,965 --> 00:31:12,137 Don't make me say it, Man. 707 00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:15,448 Brother, I need you to be As specific as possible. 708 00:31:15,448 --> 00:31:18,310 Rodgers: breonne says he Came out looking for his friend, 709 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:23,000 And he found fred Performing oral sex on him. 710 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,931 Hey, what the hell Y'all doing out here? 711 00:31:24,931 --> 00:31:27,068 Y'all think this is a game, Huh? 712 00:31:27,068 --> 00:31:30,344 Breonne and fred, For whatever reason, 713 00:31:30,344 --> 00:31:31,724 Have a fight. 714 00:31:31,724 --> 00:31:34,275 -what you doing on my porch? -none of your business. 715 00:31:34,275 --> 00:31:35,379 Get off me. 716 00:31:35,379 --> 00:31:39,965 [ groans ] 717 00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:44,379 And during that fight, Breonne rips out fred's earring. 718 00:31:44,379 --> 00:31:47,310 Then he ran off. That's it. 719 00:31:48,344 --> 00:31:50,965 Now, he corroborated the story That I already got, 720 00:31:50,965 --> 00:31:54,068 So I knew that he was The person I was looking for. 721 00:31:54,068 --> 00:31:57,655 If you're the one Who got into the fight, 722 00:31:57,655 --> 00:31:59,413 Why did jimmy shoot him? 723 00:31:59,413 --> 00:32:02,379 I don't know. Maybe jimmy didn't shoot him. 724 00:32:02,379 --> 00:32:04,586 Was it you? 725 00:32:04,586 --> 00:32:06,517 Did you shoot him? 726 00:32:06,517 --> 00:32:08,448 At this point, I have Breonne where I want him. 727 00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:09,965 His story's not adding up. 728 00:32:09,965 --> 00:32:11,758 It's time to tell me the truth, Breonne. 729 00:32:15,965 --> 00:32:24,034 ♪♪ 730 00:32:24,034 --> 00:32:26,517 Demery: breonne whitaker Could possibly be 731 00:32:26,517 --> 00:32:28,793 The person involved in Two previous murders 732 00:32:28,793 --> 00:32:31,000 Where two homosexual Or cross-dressing men 733 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,206 Were killed in shreveport. 734 00:32:32,206 --> 00:32:35,034 [ screams ] 735 00:32:35,034 --> 00:32:37,275 Now we have a third homicide, 736 00:32:37,275 --> 00:32:39,827 And I believe that breonne Was the one responsible 737 00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:41,896 For the shooting of Frederick henderson. 738 00:32:41,896 --> 00:32:44,310 And now I need to Get him to admit it. 739 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:46,379 Was it you? 740 00:32:46,379 --> 00:32:48,034 Did you shoot him? 741 00:32:50,068 --> 00:32:52,275 Yeah, it was me. 742 00:32:53,344 --> 00:32:55,172 Whitaker corrected the story 743 00:32:55,172 --> 00:32:56,931 And told me that he was The one that actually 744 00:32:56,931 --> 00:32:59,241 Shot and killed henderson. 745 00:32:59,241 --> 00:33:02,413 Would you go get that Camcorder for me, please? 746 00:33:02,413 --> 00:33:05,448 Once whitaker is giving me Information about this homicide, 747 00:33:05,448 --> 00:33:07,206 I want to make sure It's documented. 748 00:33:07,206 --> 00:33:10,206 Now, what about that gun? Man, where is that? 749 00:33:10,206 --> 00:33:12,379 I can show you If you want. 750 00:33:12,379 --> 00:33:14,379 Okay. 751 00:33:14,379 --> 00:33:18,172 I want the weapon that Would physically prove 752 00:33:18,172 --> 00:33:20,517 That whitaker was Absolutely there. 753 00:33:20,517 --> 00:33:22,448 And the fact that he knew Where the weapon was, 754 00:33:22,448 --> 00:33:23,931 It would solidify his story 755 00:33:23,931 --> 00:33:26,275 And corroborate everything He said with physical evidence. 756 00:33:26,275 --> 00:33:29,827 Now let's see About that gun. 757 00:33:29,827 --> 00:33:31,724 Whitaker tells me That the firearm is 758 00:33:31,724 --> 00:33:34,241 Right next door at An abandoned house. 759 00:33:37,482 --> 00:33:39,034 We're just feet away from it. 760 00:33:42,068 --> 00:33:43,689 I have A crime-scene investigator 761 00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:46,275 With a video camera documenting The recovery of the weapon. 762 00:33:55,206 --> 00:33:58,448 It's a 9-millimeter Semiautomatic pistol. 763 00:33:58,448 --> 00:34:01,103 I know from the autopsy That henderson was shot 764 00:34:01,103 --> 00:34:02,862 With a 9-millimeter pistol. 765 00:34:02,862 --> 00:34:05,827 So this is most likely the Weapon that killed henderson. 766 00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:08,482 Okay, breonne, You have the clothes 767 00:34:08,482 --> 00:34:10,000 You were wearing Last night? 768 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,931 -yes, sir. -where are they? 769 00:34:11,931 --> 00:34:14,068 -my room. -okay, let's go inside 770 00:34:14,068 --> 00:34:17,413 And get them, and then we can Talk about what happened. 771 00:34:17,413 --> 00:34:20,034 The next thing I want is Whitaker's clothing collected 772 00:34:20,034 --> 00:34:21,689 For any evidence That may be on it. 773 00:34:21,689 --> 00:34:24,137 Maybe blood spatter Or forensic evidence 774 00:34:24,137 --> 00:34:27,000 That he had contact With henderson. 775 00:34:40,896 --> 00:34:42,482 I wanted him to Be honest with me 776 00:34:42,482 --> 00:34:44,275 And tell me exactly what Happened and what was going on. 777 00:35:04,206 --> 00:35:07,137 Breonne said that he had been Talking to fred through facebook 778 00:35:07,137 --> 00:35:09,758 And fred picked him up Sometime that night. 779 00:35:21,448 --> 00:35:22,896 It says something about a person 780 00:35:22,896 --> 00:35:25,241 That's willing to tell you That they [bleep] Shot somebody 781 00:35:25,241 --> 00:35:27,275 But they're scared to tell you They had a sexual relationship 782 00:35:27,275 --> 00:35:28,448 With somebody Of the same sex. 783 00:35:34,275 --> 00:35:36,689 At one point in Whitaker's story, 784 00:35:36,689 --> 00:35:38,896 He said that he feared henderson 785 00:35:38,896 --> 00:35:43,724 Because henderson told him that He was gonna have him sexually. 786 00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:55,517 Whitaker said that Because he felt 787 00:35:55,517 --> 00:35:58,034 Like he was gonna be Sexually assaulted by henderson, 788 00:35:58,034 --> 00:35:59,103 He shot him. 789 00:36:00,931 --> 00:36:03,448 At this point, I knew That whitaker's story 790 00:36:03,448 --> 00:36:05,551 Was completely illogical Because I knew 791 00:36:05,551 --> 00:36:07,344 He had actually been the person 792 00:36:07,344 --> 00:36:09,827 Who physically Beat henderson up, 793 00:36:09,827 --> 00:36:13,137 So the fact that he was saying That he was afraid of henderson 794 00:36:13,137 --> 00:36:14,862 Because he feared some Sort of sexual assault 795 00:36:14,862 --> 00:36:16,172 Just didn't make any sense. 796 00:36:23,896 --> 00:36:25,103 Towards the end Of the interview, 797 00:36:25,103 --> 00:36:26,793 He told me he did, in fact, 798 00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:30,448 Have a sexual relationship With henderson. 799 00:36:32,241 --> 00:36:35,724 According to breonne, It was a relationship 800 00:36:35,724 --> 00:36:39,586 Where breonne would allow fred To perform oral sex on him. 801 00:36:43,482 --> 00:36:46,310 Demery: he told me they had sex In a wooded area 802 00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:49,965 About a couple of miles From the crime scene. 803 00:36:49,965 --> 00:36:53,724 It was off-road, And that corroborated the fact 804 00:36:53,724 --> 00:36:56,241 That the foliage And the shrubbery in the car 805 00:36:56,241 --> 00:37:00,034 Was consistent with when The victim's body was found. 806 00:37:00,034 --> 00:37:02,896 Henderson: come on, Take off your clothes. 807 00:37:02,896 --> 00:37:04,827 He told us that henderson Kept trying to get him 808 00:37:04,827 --> 00:37:06,482 To have sex with him. 809 00:37:08,344 --> 00:37:12,620 They tried to have intercourse But was not able to. 810 00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:17,379 At that point, he was taking Him back towards his house. 811 00:37:17,379 --> 00:37:19,448 Come on, let's go to The park down the street. 812 00:37:19,448 --> 00:37:22,586 Breonne's claim is Fred is being very adamant 813 00:37:22,586 --> 00:37:24,379 That breonne shouldn't leave. 814 00:37:24,379 --> 00:37:27,310 Come on, we can go get a drink And have some more fun. 815 00:37:27,310 --> 00:37:28,413 Come on. -no. 816 00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:31,448 And when fred grabs Breonne's shirt... 817 00:37:31,448 --> 00:37:33,724 No, don't go. Come back. 818 00:37:33,724 --> 00:37:35,655 -hey, get off me. -come back. 819 00:37:35,655 --> 00:37:40,413 ...He thought that fred was Going to do something to him. 820 00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:45,724 [ gasps ] 821 00:37:45,724 --> 00:37:48,655 He pulled a firearm, Pointed it at henderson, 822 00:37:48,655 --> 00:37:50,896 And he shot him. 823 00:37:50,896 --> 00:37:52,931 Shortly after the shooting, 824 00:37:52,931 --> 00:37:57,448 Henderson involuntarily drove Off and lost consciousness. 825 00:37:57,448 --> 00:37:59,137 [ glass shatters ] 826 00:37:59,137 --> 00:38:02,758 [ sirens wailing ] 827 00:38:02,758 --> 00:38:04,482 Whitaker went home, 828 00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:07,793 Put the gun in a place He thought was safe, 829 00:38:07,793 --> 00:38:09,758 Got in bed, 830 00:38:09,758 --> 00:38:10,931 And went to sleep. 831 00:38:16,517 --> 00:38:17,793 And now I know some Of the statements 832 00:38:17,793 --> 00:38:19,827 That he gives me Are not completely truthful, 833 00:38:19,827 --> 00:38:21,758 That he may be Making some parts up, 834 00:38:21,758 --> 00:38:23,172 But the long and short of it was 835 00:38:23,172 --> 00:38:27,103 Is that he told me That he shot henderson. 836 00:38:29,724 --> 00:38:32,241 I drove him back to The police station. 837 00:38:32,241 --> 00:38:36,793 Now I want to find out what I can about the other cases. 838 00:38:39,413 --> 00:38:43,241 I had a pretty good rapport With whitaker at this point 839 00:38:43,241 --> 00:38:46,724 And I'm trying to get and gather All information I can from him 840 00:38:46,724 --> 00:38:49,034 Before he decides that He wants to shut down 841 00:38:49,034 --> 00:38:51,931 And doesn't want to talk Or cooperate anymore. 842 00:38:51,931 --> 00:38:54,241 Demery: so, I'm investigating Some other shootings 843 00:38:54,241 --> 00:38:56,241 That just happened in the area. 844 00:38:56,241 --> 00:38:58,965 Somebody named golston And mckinney. 845 00:38:59,862 --> 00:39:01,896 What can you tell me About that? 846 00:39:01,896 --> 00:39:04,862 I had heard about them, But I don't know too much. 847 00:39:04,862 --> 00:39:06,965 He told me he was aware 848 00:39:06,965 --> 00:39:09,793 Of the killing of golston... 849 00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:17,517 ...But that he heard the gunshot Where mckinney was shot. 850 00:39:17,517 --> 00:39:19,586 So you heard The gunshot? 851 00:39:19,586 --> 00:39:24,551 Yeah, my baby mama live over Where he got killed, so. 852 00:39:24,551 --> 00:39:26,310 He gave me some specific details 853 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:29,517 Of where he was shot And how he was dressed. 854 00:39:33,068 --> 00:39:34,896 I figured He had to have known 855 00:39:34,896 --> 00:39:37,241 Or was there when it happened. 856 00:39:38,413 --> 00:39:40,896 Whitaker was The common denominator 857 00:39:40,896 --> 00:39:43,103 In all those murders. 858 00:39:43,103 --> 00:39:45,137 So at that point, I was pretty certain 859 00:39:45,137 --> 00:39:47,724 That he was responsible for The other two homicides. 860 00:39:47,724 --> 00:39:49,931 I didn't have my gun on me, But if I had, 861 00:39:49,931 --> 00:39:52,344 I would have taken That neighbor dog out. 862 00:39:52,344 --> 00:39:54,034 You would have Shot the dog? 863 00:39:54,034 --> 00:39:56,172 Hey, guys, you know, You're gonna need 864 00:39:56,172 --> 00:39:58,517 To talk to whitaker 'cause, uh... 865 00:40:02,551 --> 00:40:04,000 'cause I'm pretty certain He's the one 866 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,862 Who killed henderson And mckinney. 867 00:40:06,862 --> 00:40:08,655 We'll look into it. 868 00:40:08,655 --> 00:40:11,793 Okay. We're on it. 869 00:40:13,827 --> 00:40:16,379 See those wings are about All you can handle, huh? 870 00:40:20,655 --> 00:40:22,827 When I gave up the information, My hope was 871 00:40:22,827 --> 00:40:25,793 The detectives were gonna Draw the same conclusion 872 00:40:25,793 --> 00:40:28,517 And figure out a way to Make those other two cases 873 00:40:28,517 --> 00:40:30,275 Work with whitaker. 874 00:40:30,275 --> 00:40:32,379 I don't know that they Acted on the information 875 00:40:32,379 --> 00:40:34,896 But to this day, The murders of terry golston 876 00:40:34,896 --> 00:40:39,034 And jock mckinney are still Unsolved, open cases. 877 00:40:39,034 --> 00:40:46,689 ♪♪ 878 00:40:46,689 --> 00:40:48,310 Whitaker may have gotten Away with the murders 879 00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:51,551 Of terry golston And jock mckinney, 880 00:40:51,551 --> 00:40:53,206 But when it came to my case, 881 00:40:53,206 --> 00:40:55,482 The murder of Frederick henderson, 882 00:40:55,482 --> 00:40:59,482 Justice was served. 883 00:40:59,482 --> 00:41:02,241 Rodgers: breonne was convicted Of 2nd-degree murder, 884 00:41:02,241 --> 00:41:05,586 And he was sentenced to The mandatory life sentence. 885 00:41:09,965 --> 00:41:13,862 Nothing fred did to deserve To get killed -- 886 00:41:13,862 --> 00:41:15,620 Nothing. 887 00:41:15,620 --> 00:41:17,344 Was he perfect? 888 00:41:17,344 --> 00:41:20,241 No, but he was my baby. 889 00:41:20,241 --> 00:41:23,344 He wasn't out killing. He wasn't out robbing. 890 00:41:23,344 --> 00:41:28,724 He was out having a good time For his age, 23 years old. 891 00:41:28,724 --> 00:41:32,379 And for you to take An innocent life 892 00:41:32,379 --> 00:41:36,310 And you destroy it, It's hard. 893 00:41:36,310 --> 00:41:39,068 Demery: I thought about this case, 894 00:41:39,068 --> 00:41:43,137 And I don't know that I ever Figured out the reason why 895 00:41:43,137 --> 00:41:46,586 That someone like breonne Could have a sexual relationship 896 00:41:46,586 --> 00:41:50,413 With someone That he truly desires 897 00:41:50,413 --> 00:41:52,586 But at the same time Truly despises. 898 00:41:52,586 --> 00:41:54,068 I think he was afraid 899 00:41:54,068 --> 00:41:55,827 Of what people would have Thought of him. 900 00:41:55,827 --> 00:41:57,344 And I think he went to the point 901 00:41:57,344 --> 00:42:02,206 Where he would kill him so That he couldn't tell anybody. 902 00:42:02,206 --> 00:42:04,344 I really think that He had a problem 903 00:42:04,344 --> 00:42:05,965 With his own sexuality. 904 00:42:05,965 --> 00:42:08,137 He would give in To his temptation 905 00:42:08,137 --> 00:42:10,862 And within himself Feel so guilty about it 906 00:42:10,862 --> 00:42:15,034 That he took it out on henderson And made him a victim. 907 00:42:16,827 --> 00:42:18,758 The fact is that The murders didn't start 908 00:42:18,758 --> 00:42:22,448 Until whitaker got Released from jail, 909 00:42:22,448 --> 00:42:24,965 And they ended when He went to jail. 910 00:42:24,965 --> 00:42:28,241 So it's pretty clear that Breonne was on a path to 911 00:42:28,241 --> 00:42:32,793 Kill men that lived That alternative lifestyle. 912 00:42:35,724 --> 00:42:39,275 And I'm just thankful that I was able to stop him. 69135

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