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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,103 --> 00:00:09,448 Demery: there's nothing about Murder that goes down easy. 2 00:00:09,448 --> 00:00:12,862 Sometimes it's the blood That gets to you. 3 00:00:12,862 --> 00:00:15,896 Sometimes it's just The look on their face, 4 00:00:15,896 --> 00:00:18,620 Frozen in time forever. 5 00:00:18,620 --> 00:00:22,862 That look of terror, Or worse, surprise. 6 00:00:22,862 --> 00:00:26,241 But honestly, The hardest part isn't the who 7 00:00:26,241 --> 00:00:28,206 Or even the how. 8 00:00:28,206 --> 00:00:29,689 It's the why. 9 00:00:29,689 --> 00:00:32,448 Getting to that, Untying that knot... 10 00:00:32,448 --> 00:00:34,068 That's the hard part. 11 00:00:41,586 --> 00:00:44,586 Murder and me, we go way back. 12 00:00:44,586 --> 00:00:48,172 When I was a child, Murder took my mother. 13 00:00:48,172 --> 00:00:51,517 Years later, It came for my brother. 14 00:00:51,517 --> 00:00:54,793 That's when I found My mission in life. 15 00:00:54,793 --> 00:00:57,137 Every case I worked, I solved. 16 00:00:57,137 --> 00:01:01,448 Every case I solved, I got a confession. 17 00:01:01,448 --> 00:01:04,965 I'm detective rod demery. 18 00:01:04,965 --> 00:01:06,758 I didn't choose murder. 19 00:01:06,758 --> 00:01:08,655 Murder chose me. 20 00:01:08,655 --> 00:01:12,137 --captions by vitac-- Www.Vitac.Com 21 00:01:12,137 --> 00:01:15,965 Captions paid for by Discovery communications 22 00:01:15,965 --> 00:01:18,172 Mack: It's early evening, 8:00. 23 00:01:18,172 --> 00:01:20,517 Officer yarborough Is patrol officer, 24 00:01:20,517 --> 00:01:24,137 Riding his beat And cruising down freewater. 25 00:01:24,137 --> 00:01:27,862 Woman: hey! Hey! 26 00:01:27,862 --> 00:01:30,655 [ siren wails ] 27 00:01:30,655 --> 00:01:33,586 Help! Jesus! 28 00:01:36,655 --> 00:01:39,379 Please! My boyfriend! My boyfriend's inside! 29 00:01:39,379 --> 00:01:41,724 -he's been shot! -he's been shot! 30 00:01:41,724 --> 00:01:44,758 Back up! Stay right here! Don't move! Don't move! 31 00:01:48,344 --> 00:01:51,310 Mack: there are so many things That got through your mind -- 32 00:01:51,310 --> 00:01:54,689 Is this a suicide? Is this a homicide? 33 00:01:56,655 --> 00:01:59,172 Police! Anybody in here? Police! 34 00:01:59,172 --> 00:02:01,344 Crow: as officer yarborough Made entry... 35 00:02:01,344 --> 00:02:03,896 Police! Anybody in here? 36 00:02:06,172 --> 00:02:07,344 Put your gun down now! 37 00:02:07,344 --> 00:02:08,931 ...He noticed on the couch 38 00:02:08,931 --> 00:02:12,000 The figure of a black male Laying on his back. 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,551 Put the gun down! 40 00:02:13,551 --> 00:02:16,310 As he approached And got closer to this figure... 41 00:02:16,310 --> 00:02:17,655 Put your gun down! 42 00:02:17,655 --> 00:02:20,413 [ television playing ] 43 00:02:20,413 --> 00:02:22,931 ...He saw what looked To be brain matter 44 00:02:22,931 --> 00:02:27,137 Sticking out of a gaping hole On top of the man's head. 45 00:02:28,103 --> 00:02:29,896 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 46 00:02:29,896 --> 00:02:34,379 Call homicide. We got a dead body right here. 47 00:02:34,379 --> 00:02:36,103 3-0-3. 48 00:02:36,103 --> 00:02:39,241 Send me a homicide Detective this way, please. 49 00:02:50,517 --> 00:02:53,793 Demery: I was 6 years old When I saw my first dead body. 50 00:02:53,793 --> 00:02:55,827 The man in the coffin 51 00:02:55,827 --> 00:02:58,827 Was a friend Of my grandfather's. 52 00:02:58,827 --> 00:03:01,413 He was laying Perfectly still, 53 00:03:01,413 --> 00:03:02,793 Dressed in his sunday best, 54 00:03:02,793 --> 00:03:06,689 Surrounded by flowers. 55 00:03:06,689 --> 00:03:11,896 In that moment, Death didn't seem so bad. 56 00:03:11,896 --> 00:03:14,172 More like a nice, long nap. 57 00:03:14,172 --> 00:03:15,724 A well-deserved vacation 58 00:03:15,724 --> 00:03:18,448 From the hard work Of living life. 59 00:03:18,448 --> 00:03:20,827 [ sobbing ] 60 00:03:24,551 --> 00:03:26,758 Only years later did I realize 61 00:03:26,758 --> 00:03:30,034 That death isn't always So peaceful. 62 00:03:35,655 --> 00:03:38,103 [ liquid dripping ] 63 00:03:40,275 --> 00:03:43,344 In 2001, I had just started My homicide career. 64 00:03:45,413 --> 00:03:48,103 I was pretty anxious 65 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:50,827 About catching My first homicide, 66 00:03:50,827 --> 00:03:52,482 For a couple Of different reasons -- 67 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:55,344 To see if I could do it, For one. 68 00:03:55,344 --> 00:03:56,758 The other, I don't know. 69 00:03:56,758 --> 00:03:58,275 It was just This burning curiosity 70 00:03:58,275 --> 00:04:01,517 On how The investigations worked. 71 00:04:01,517 --> 00:04:03,172 -martin. -yes? 72 00:04:03,172 --> 00:04:05,000 We got a body Down on freewater. 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,827 You need to get Down there right now. 74 00:04:06,827 --> 00:04:09,000 Uh, and take The rookie with you. 75 00:04:11,137 --> 00:04:14,241 Demery: the homicide was Assigned to detective martin. 76 00:04:14,241 --> 00:04:16,413 Being new, I was assigned to him. 77 00:04:16,413 --> 00:04:18,862 So it was kind of Go along in the shadow 78 00:04:18,862 --> 00:04:20,413 And kind of learn the job 79 00:04:20,413 --> 00:04:23,137 And get some exposure And experience. 80 00:04:23,137 --> 00:04:26,482 So, when we get down there, You just follow my lead. 81 00:04:26,482 --> 00:04:28,689 -and you'll be fine, okay? -all right. 82 00:04:28,689 --> 00:04:30,413 Well, I'm parked over here. I'll meet you there. 83 00:04:30,413 --> 00:04:31,793 -you got it. -all right. 84 00:04:31,793 --> 00:04:34,000 When I went to homicide And I found out 85 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,344 I was going to be Working with martin, 86 00:04:36,344 --> 00:04:39,620 I don't know that I expected a lot from him. 87 00:04:39,620 --> 00:04:41,965 He was not A very passionate person -- 88 00:04:41,965 --> 00:04:44,482 Very by-the-book And, you know, there's a rule 89 00:04:44,482 --> 00:04:47,068 And there's a way To do everything. 90 00:04:47,068 --> 00:04:49,758 And, you know, I don't know That I took to that very well, 91 00:04:49,758 --> 00:04:51,206 Because I didn't think Everything fit 92 00:04:51,206 --> 00:04:53,379 The same set of circumstances. 93 00:04:53,379 --> 00:04:55,724 [ police radio chatter ] 94 00:04:59,965 --> 00:05:01,862 [ engine shuts off ] 95 00:05:08,827 --> 00:05:11,482 So, I understand We got a body. 96 00:05:11,482 --> 00:05:13,517 -still here? -yes, sir. 97 00:05:13,517 --> 00:05:15,724 He's on the couch In the living room. 98 00:05:15,724 --> 00:05:19,413 He's a 45-year-old male Named albert small. 99 00:05:19,413 --> 00:05:22,413 Mack: officer yarborough tells Him he lived in the house 100 00:05:22,413 --> 00:05:25,137 And was not transported To the hospital 101 00:05:25,137 --> 00:05:27,551 Because, as we like To say in the business, 102 00:05:27,551 --> 00:05:30,206 He was d.R.T., Which means dead right there. 103 00:05:30,206 --> 00:05:32,137 Do we know How he was killed? 104 00:05:32,137 --> 00:05:33,620 We got...The body. 105 00:05:33,620 --> 00:05:35,758 It could be a suicide. 106 00:05:35,758 --> 00:05:37,379 Jones: officers responding To the scene 107 00:05:37,379 --> 00:05:39,758 And who saw mr. Small Lying basically 108 00:05:39,758 --> 00:05:42,620 With his arms crossed Across his chest 109 00:05:42,620 --> 00:05:44,517 With his hands on a pistol 110 00:05:44,517 --> 00:05:47,103 That could've been used In the suicide. 111 00:05:47,103 --> 00:05:48,448 Why don't I check the body 112 00:05:48,448 --> 00:05:51,034 And you talk to the girls Who found the deceased? 113 00:05:51,034 --> 00:05:52,931 Will do. 114 00:05:56,482 --> 00:05:59,241 My job was to just kind of talk 115 00:05:59,241 --> 00:06:02,448 To the people Who discovered the body. 116 00:06:02,448 --> 00:06:03,931 -how you doing? -hi, sir. 117 00:06:03,931 --> 00:06:07,034 One was shaka ware, who was The girlfriend of albert small. 118 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:08,965 She's a 25-year-old female, Black. 119 00:06:08,965 --> 00:06:11,620 The other was shaka's aunt. 120 00:06:11,620 --> 00:06:13,620 How you guys doing? 121 00:06:13,620 --> 00:06:17,000 All right, look, I know this Has got to be really difficult, 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,689 But I need to ask you A few questions, okay? 123 00:06:20,689 --> 00:06:23,965 Yeah. Okay. 124 00:06:23,965 --> 00:06:25,793 Could I get something To drink first? 125 00:06:25,793 --> 00:06:27,344 Sure. Can you get her Something to drink? 126 00:06:27,344 --> 00:06:28,586 Yes, sir. 127 00:06:28,586 --> 00:06:31,344 Shaka, you talk To this man. 128 00:06:31,344 --> 00:06:32,586 How you doing? 129 00:06:32,586 --> 00:06:34,724 Shaka was kind of sad, Distraught. 130 00:06:34,724 --> 00:06:36,482 She seemed to be in shock, Actually. 131 00:06:36,482 --> 00:06:39,103 When you encounter somebody That's distraught, 132 00:06:39,103 --> 00:06:41,586 Your main job Is to try to reassure them 133 00:06:41,586 --> 00:06:43,241 And calm them down At least enough 134 00:06:43,241 --> 00:06:44,965 To gather some information. 135 00:06:44,965 --> 00:06:48,068 So, what can you tell me About albert small? 136 00:06:48,068 --> 00:06:49,620 How long Have you known him? 137 00:06:49,620 --> 00:06:52,379 I've known albert For about four years. 138 00:06:52,379 --> 00:06:53,931 I've been living here For a while. 139 00:06:53,931 --> 00:06:56,344 Okay. 140 00:06:56,344 --> 00:06:58,965 I love him. 141 00:06:58,965 --> 00:07:02,206 We took really good care Of each other. 142 00:07:02,206 --> 00:07:04,965 Ferrand: She tells demery that albert 143 00:07:04,965 --> 00:07:06,586 Is pretty popular In the neighborhood. 144 00:07:06,586 --> 00:07:09,344 He's a skilled mechanic, So a lot of the people 145 00:07:09,344 --> 00:07:12,103 In the neighborhood get help From him with their cars, 146 00:07:12,103 --> 00:07:14,000 And he's very generous. 147 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,413 Demery: shaka told me That she got home at about 8:00, 148 00:07:16,413 --> 00:07:18,379 After she had went To the neighbor's house 149 00:07:18,379 --> 00:07:19,965 And smoked a cigarette. 150 00:07:19,965 --> 00:07:21,448 Well, I'm glad You got to stop by. 151 00:07:21,448 --> 00:07:23,827 She said her aunt Shows up there. 152 00:07:23,827 --> 00:07:26,586 They decide to go To shaka's house. 153 00:07:26,586 --> 00:07:27,862 Albert! 154 00:07:29,724 --> 00:07:32,551 Baby, wake up. Aunt erica's here. 155 00:07:35,655 --> 00:07:39,000 Albert! Why's your gun out? 156 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,862 Albert? God. Albert? 157 00:07:44,413 --> 00:07:47,724 They find albert laying on his Back with a gun in his hand, 158 00:07:47,724 --> 00:07:49,620 And she just assumed That he shot himself. 159 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:50,896 Oh, my god! 160 00:07:50,896 --> 00:07:54,379 Oh, my -- What did you do! 161 00:07:54,379 --> 00:07:56,344 Oh! Come on, come on. 162 00:07:56,344 --> 00:07:59,896 We got to go. Let's call on the way out. 163 00:07:59,896 --> 00:08:02,862 [ sobbing ] I... 164 00:08:02,862 --> 00:08:05,655 Why would he do something Like this to himself?! 165 00:08:05,655 --> 00:08:07,482 Shaka's telling me her story. 166 00:08:07,482 --> 00:08:09,689 She's obviously becoming More and more upset, 167 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:12,172 And part of that is Because she's still At the crime scene 168 00:08:12,172 --> 00:08:14,620 And mr. Small's remains Are still inside the home. 169 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:16,724 My thought at that point Is that we need to get her 170 00:08:16,724 --> 00:08:18,689 And any other witnesses And remove them 171 00:08:18,689 --> 00:08:21,620 From that environment As quickly as possible. 172 00:08:21,620 --> 00:08:24,413 I don't understand! 173 00:08:24,413 --> 00:08:27,000 Hey. Do me a favor, please. 174 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,724 Would you find her aunt and take Them both down to the station 175 00:08:29,724 --> 00:08:30,931 So I can get A formal statement? 176 00:08:30,931 --> 00:08:32,551 -yes, sir. -go with him, okay? 177 00:08:32,551 --> 00:08:36,241 I'm gonna go inside and take A look and just -- thanks. 178 00:08:36,241 --> 00:08:38,344 [ police radio chatter ] 179 00:08:39,689 --> 00:08:43,068 This is my first case As a homicide detective. 180 00:08:45,379 --> 00:08:49,586 And though I know good and well What I signed on for, 181 00:08:49,586 --> 00:08:52,310 When I walk into the room Where albert's body is... 182 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:56,344 ...It hits hard. 183 00:09:03,172 --> 00:09:04,551 -hey, detective. -yeah. 184 00:09:04,551 --> 00:09:06,241 Someone needs to speak To you right now. 185 00:09:06,241 --> 00:09:08,206 Sure. 186 00:09:08,206 --> 00:09:09,793 How you doing? 187 00:09:09,793 --> 00:09:11,655 Doing fine, man. I need to talk to you. 188 00:09:11,655 --> 00:09:13,275 Okay. You are? 189 00:09:13,275 --> 00:09:15,517 I'm billy. Al was a good friend of mine. 190 00:09:15,517 --> 00:09:18,068 This guy explains to me That he didn't believe 191 00:09:18,068 --> 00:09:20,896 That mr. Small Committed suicide. 192 00:09:20,896 --> 00:09:23,551 Okay. How do you know He didn't commit suicide? 193 00:09:23,551 --> 00:09:25,241 I saw him today. 194 00:09:25,241 --> 00:09:28,655 -what's going on, al? -what's up, man? 195 00:09:28,655 --> 00:09:30,586 He just actually Paid off his house. 196 00:09:30,586 --> 00:09:32,689 He paid off Another property. 197 00:09:32,689 --> 00:09:34,724 He would've never taken Himself out like that, man. 198 00:09:34,724 --> 00:09:37,793 The fact that wells Was so concerned, 199 00:09:37,793 --> 00:09:40,000 I was beginning to be A little suspicious. 200 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,241 To think you're investigating A suicide is a mistake. 201 00:09:43,241 --> 00:09:45,413 All these cases should Be investigated as homicides, 202 00:09:45,413 --> 00:09:47,689 Because there's No real telltale way 203 00:09:47,689 --> 00:09:49,655 To find out, initially. 204 00:09:49,655 --> 00:09:52,000 Okay. Thank you. 205 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,689 -it's bull. -yeah, no, no. Thank you. 206 00:09:56,827 --> 00:09:58,655 [ sighs ] 207 00:10:05,655 --> 00:10:07,448 Hey. Excuse me. 208 00:10:09,758 --> 00:10:12,137 Hey, detective, What do you think? 209 00:10:12,137 --> 00:10:15,068 Well, it looks Pretty clear-cut to me. 210 00:10:15,068 --> 00:10:16,827 We got a suicide here. 211 00:10:16,827 --> 00:10:18,586 -really? -yeah. 212 00:10:21,103 --> 00:10:23,758 [ television playing ] 213 00:10:25,862 --> 00:10:27,448 Demery: martin's theory was 214 00:10:27,448 --> 00:10:30,379 That small had placed A gun in his mouth... 215 00:10:32,068 --> 00:10:34,068 [ gunshot ] 216 00:10:34,068 --> 00:10:37,482 ...And the top of the head Is where the bullet exited, 217 00:10:37,482 --> 00:10:40,034 But I was very skeptical Of that. 218 00:10:40,034 --> 00:10:43,241 -mind if I take a look? -oh, sure. Go ahead. 219 00:10:45,758 --> 00:10:48,448 [ indistinct conversation ] 220 00:10:53,068 --> 00:10:56,551 Crow: you really couldn't tell How this wound occurred. 221 00:10:56,551 --> 00:10:58,620 If it was self-inflicted, 222 00:10:58,620 --> 00:11:01,137 There would have to be An entry wound somewhere else, 223 00:11:01,137 --> 00:11:03,379 Possibly in the mouth... 224 00:11:03,379 --> 00:11:05,172 Under his chin... 225 00:11:05,172 --> 00:11:07,000 Someplace that you Couldn't readily see 226 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,620 When you initially Looked at the body. 227 00:11:11,517 --> 00:11:14,931 -hey, detective? -yeah. 228 00:11:14,931 --> 00:11:16,655 He's still got The gun in his hand. 229 00:11:16,655 --> 00:11:18,379 Yeah? 230 00:11:18,379 --> 00:11:19,896 Demery: the other thing is I didn't believe 231 00:11:19,896 --> 00:11:22,931 That someone could fire A gun into their head 232 00:11:22,931 --> 00:11:24,689 And perfectly put their arms 233 00:11:24,689 --> 00:11:27,344 Back in a position of rest Across their body. 234 00:11:27,344 --> 00:11:29,517 Arms are gonna fall haphazardly, 235 00:11:29,517 --> 00:11:31,241 And the firearm's Gonna fall to the floor. 236 00:11:31,241 --> 00:11:33,103 Anybody find the bullet? 237 00:11:33,103 --> 00:11:35,931 Yeah, one casing on the floor, But no projectile. 238 00:11:35,931 --> 00:11:37,965 Demery: I'm listening To some of the discussions 239 00:11:37,965 --> 00:11:39,206 That are going on, 240 00:11:39,206 --> 00:11:40,724 And I see that there's 241 00:11:40,724 --> 00:11:43,482 A half-eaten plate of food On the floor. 242 00:11:43,482 --> 00:11:46,034 The thought that someone Would be enjoying a plate 243 00:11:46,034 --> 00:11:48,793 Or bowl of red beans and rice And then say, you know, 244 00:11:48,793 --> 00:11:50,758 "I'm gonna shoot myself In the head," 245 00:11:50,758 --> 00:11:53,275 Just didn't make A whole lot of sense to me. 246 00:11:53,275 --> 00:11:54,862 Well, I've seen enough. 247 00:11:54,862 --> 00:11:56,482 Let's call the coroner, Get him over here, 248 00:11:56,482 --> 00:11:57,896 And make the call. 249 00:11:57,896 --> 00:11:59,344 Demery: He can have his theory. 250 00:11:59,344 --> 00:12:03,517 He can have his authority And his rank, 251 00:12:03,517 --> 00:12:05,310 But there was no way I was gonna 252 00:12:05,310 --> 00:12:07,448 Accept martin's theory For what happened. 253 00:12:09,758 --> 00:12:12,275 The trick was gonna be Getting him to understand 254 00:12:12,275 --> 00:12:13,758 And accept mine. 255 00:12:26,551 --> 00:12:29,620 [ siren wails ] 256 00:12:29,620 --> 00:12:32,448 Demery: I'm investigating My very first homicide. 257 00:12:32,448 --> 00:12:37,103 45-year-old albert small Has been shot. 258 00:12:37,103 --> 00:12:41,275 The lead detective has Determined that it's a suicide. 259 00:12:41,275 --> 00:12:44,103 I'm not willing to accept that, And I believe it's a homicide. 260 00:12:53,793 --> 00:12:55,896 Hey, detective. Detective! 261 00:12:55,896 --> 00:12:57,137 What? 262 00:12:57,137 --> 00:12:58,758 Can I speak to you For a minute outside, please? 263 00:12:58,758 --> 00:13:00,103 Sure. 264 00:13:00,103 --> 00:13:01,827 The problem is That at this point 265 00:13:01,827 --> 00:13:03,896 In my detective career, I wasn't in a position 266 00:13:03,896 --> 00:13:06,068 Where I could just tell people What I thought and how I felt, 267 00:13:06,068 --> 00:13:07,310 And being diplomatic 268 00:13:07,310 --> 00:13:10,413 Is not something That I'm skilled at. 269 00:13:10,413 --> 00:13:14,068 What's the matter, demery? First-case nerves gotten to you? 270 00:13:14,068 --> 00:13:15,896 No, man. You know what? Look -- 271 00:13:15,896 --> 00:13:17,896 Don't worry. Coroner will be here. 272 00:13:17,896 --> 00:13:20,551 We'll be out of here once He signs off on the suicide. 273 00:13:20,551 --> 00:13:22,931 Heck, you'll be home by dinner. Don't worry. 274 00:13:22,931 --> 00:13:24,862 So, my thought At that point is 275 00:13:24,862 --> 00:13:27,275 That the coroner's Investigator's gonna come in, 276 00:13:27,275 --> 00:13:28,965 And that person, I was certain, 277 00:13:28,965 --> 00:13:32,344 Was gonna see it The way I saw it. 278 00:13:32,344 --> 00:13:33,551 Hello, detectives. 279 00:13:33,551 --> 00:13:34,931 -hey. -hey. 280 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,965 Demery: So I waited for the coroner 281 00:13:39,965 --> 00:13:43,206 To get there And validate my suspicions. 282 00:13:47,551 --> 00:13:49,241 Was a projectile found? 283 00:13:49,241 --> 00:13:52,758 Found a .380 casing But no bullet. 284 00:13:52,758 --> 00:13:54,965 Interesting. 285 00:13:54,965 --> 00:13:58,034 My guess is the bullet Is still inside the head. 286 00:13:58,034 --> 00:13:59,965 Any signs Of an entry wound 287 00:13:59,965 --> 00:14:02,413 On the temples Or under the chin? 288 00:14:06,379 --> 00:14:08,310 No that I can see, no. 289 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:10,793 But it is A suicide, right? 290 00:14:10,793 --> 00:14:12,586 It doesn't appear to be. 291 00:14:12,586 --> 00:14:16,724 The coroner was unable To find a wound 292 00:14:16,724 --> 00:14:18,517 Beneath the chin or in the mouth 293 00:14:18,517 --> 00:14:21,068 And determined that the wound On top of the head 294 00:14:21,068 --> 00:14:24,344 Was actually an entrance wound Rather than an exit wound. 295 00:14:24,344 --> 00:14:26,275 Someone shot him In the top of the head. 296 00:14:26,275 --> 00:14:27,827 I don't see Any other way around it. 297 00:14:27,827 --> 00:14:29,586 Well, now that You mention it, 298 00:14:29,586 --> 00:14:31,551 That's kind of what I was thinking. 299 00:14:31,551 --> 00:14:35,379 Martin reversed his theory And tried to redeem himself. 300 00:14:35,379 --> 00:14:40,068 And after the coroner Validated my theory of homicide, 301 00:14:40,068 --> 00:14:42,379 It kind of boosted My confidence level, 302 00:14:42,379 --> 00:14:44,137 And I felt like I could do this. 303 00:14:44,137 --> 00:14:45,551 All right, demery, 304 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:49,068 Looks like we got Ourselves a murder. 305 00:14:49,068 --> 00:14:50,551 Yes, sir. 306 00:14:50,551 --> 00:14:52,344 At that point, Putting my trust in martin 307 00:14:52,344 --> 00:14:54,206 And following his lead Wasn't gonna happen. 308 00:14:54,206 --> 00:14:56,379 That was my awakening. 309 00:14:56,379 --> 00:14:58,137 Tell you what. I'm gonna head out and see 310 00:14:58,137 --> 00:14:59,655 If I can find Some family members, 311 00:14:59,655 --> 00:15:01,448 Maybe make this Death notification. 312 00:15:01,448 --> 00:15:02,620 Good idea. 313 00:15:02,620 --> 00:15:03,758 -hey, detective. -yeah? 314 00:15:03,758 --> 00:15:05,931 I think mr. Small's sister Is outside. 315 00:15:05,931 --> 00:15:08,241 She lives around the corner. Her name is esther foster. 316 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:11,413 She got wind something Happened to her brother. 317 00:15:11,413 --> 00:15:13,931 [ sighs ] All right. I'll talk to her. 318 00:15:13,931 --> 00:15:15,517 [ police radio chatter ] 319 00:15:15,517 --> 00:15:17,206 Demery: the neighborhood Was pretty close-knit, 320 00:15:17,206 --> 00:15:18,448 And small's sister, 321 00:15:18,448 --> 00:15:21,965 She knew before I did That small had died. 322 00:15:21,965 --> 00:15:23,275 But I did need to interview her 323 00:15:23,275 --> 00:15:25,689 And try to gather whatever Information I could. 324 00:15:27,827 --> 00:15:30,862 Hey. Detective demery. 325 00:15:30,862 --> 00:15:33,620 Listen, they're saying He committed suicide, 326 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:36,344 But my brother Wouldn't do that. 327 00:15:36,344 --> 00:15:39,758 Actually, we've determined It wasn't a suicide. 328 00:15:39,758 --> 00:15:42,689 Wait. So you're saying Someone murdered him? 329 00:15:42,689 --> 00:15:44,172 Who would do that To him? 330 00:15:44,172 --> 00:15:45,827 That's what we're Trying to figure out. 331 00:15:45,827 --> 00:15:49,137 At that point, I didn't have Any reason to hide anything. 332 00:15:49,137 --> 00:15:50,931 It was reported as a suicide, 333 00:15:50,931 --> 00:15:53,482 But she had just as much Trouble with the fact 334 00:15:53,482 --> 00:15:55,448 That somebody would've Wanted to kill him. 335 00:15:55,448 --> 00:15:57,827 Can you tell me If albert had any enemies 336 00:15:57,827 --> 00:15:59,310 Or anybody That was mad at him? 337 00:15:59,310 --> 00:16:01,000 She didn't have any belief 338 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,379 That anybody Would want to kill him. 339 00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:03,689 He was helpful, friendly 340 00:16:03,689 --> 00:16:05,068 To all the people In the neighborhood. 341 00:16:05,068 --> 00:16:07,724 Shaka -- she did struggle From time to time. 342 00:16:07,724 --> 00:16:11,275 -what do you mean by "Struggle"? -drugs. 343 00:16:11,275 --> 00:16:12,551 What foster did tell me 344 00:16:12,551 --> 00:16:15,931 Was that shaka Was a substance abuser. 345 00:16:15,931 --> 00:16:18,275 She was a drug addict. 346 00:16:18,275 --> 00:16:23,000 Shaka basically has a problem, An addiction to cocaine. 347 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,379 And she hangs out With a lot of shady people. 348 00:16:26,379 --> 00:16:28,379 [ train whistle blows ] 349 00:16:28,379 --> 00:16:30,068 Albert's death definitely Could have been 350 00:16:30,068 --> 00:16:32,965 A byproduct of shaka's drug use. 351 00:16:32,965 --> 00:16:35,517 Crow: did she owe money To a drug dealer? 352 00:16:35,517 --> 00:16:37,172 Did she have a falling-out 353 00:16:37,172 --> 00:16:39,793 For some reason With a drug dealer 354 00:16:39,793 --> 00:16:42,551 That, in order to get at her, 355 00:16:42,551 --> 00:16:45,413 Got at the person That she cared about? 356 00:16:47,724 --> 00:16:50,206 All these things Had to be looked at. 357 00:16:50,206 --> 00:16:52,379 [ thunder rumbles ] 358 00:16:54,068 --> 00:16:55,379 Anything else You can tell me? 359 00:16:55,379 --> 00:16:57,551 No, but albert's friend Was out here earlier. 360 00:16:57,551 --> 00:16:59,310 He said he knew something. 361 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:01,172 Okay, you know Where he is now? 362 00:17:01,172 --> 00:17:02,724 No, he's not out here Anymore, 363 00:17:02,724 --> 00:17:05,896 But I saw him talking to one of Your cops up front earlier. 364 00:17:05,896 --> 00:17:07,482 All right, well, look. Thank you for your time. 365 00:17:07,482 --> 00:17:09,448 And if I have any questions, I'll be in contact. 366 00:17:09,448 --> 00:17:10,413 -thank you. -okay. 367 00:17:10,413 --> 00:17:11,827 Demery: After I talked to foster, 368 00:17:11,827 --> 00:17:13,172 The first responding officer, Yarborough, 369 00:17:13,172 --> 00:17:15,517 Tells me the witness's name Is bobby evans. 370 00:17:15,517 --> 00:17:17,241 He said he was a friend Of the victim. 371 00:17:17,241 --> 00:17:19,379 And he did mention that he did See something earlier today, 372 00:17:19,379 --> 00:17:21,034 But the guy had to go, But he did leave his address 373 00:17:21,034 --> 00:17:22,206 If you want to talk To him later. 374 00:17:22,206 --> 00:17:23,482 Damn right. 375 00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:31,310 I'm hoping that evans Is gonna be able to tell me 376 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:33,137 Who would kill small, But at that point, 377 00:17:33,137 --> 00:17:35,241 I didn't really have any idea What he was gonna say. 378 00:17:35,241 --> 00:17:38,068 What I did know was That I had to talk to him. 379 00:17:38,068 --> 00:17:39,344 [ door opens ] 380 00:17:39,344 --> 00:17:42,931 -come on in. -thanks. 381 00:17:42,931 --> 00:17:44,862 One of the officers said 382 00:17:44,862 --> 00:17:46,551 You might have Some information for me 383 00:17:46,551 --> 00:17:48,793 Related to the death Of albert small? 384 00:17:48,793 --> 00:17:50,724 Yeah. Let me explain What happened. 385 00:17:50,724 --> 00:17:53,206 Earlier that day, I was with a buddy of mine, 386 00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:56,586 And we saw albert's car Parked on the street. 387 00:17:56,586 --> 00:17:58,655 I mean, I'll take all The overtime he's gonna give me. 388 00:17:58,655 --> 00:18:00,896 I know that's right. 389 00:18:00,896 --> 00:18:03,275 -all right. -hey. Look over there. 390 00:18:03,275 --> 00:18:05,758 -hey, is that albert's car? -that's albert's car. 391 00:18:05,758 --> 00:18:07,034 Demery: Evans explains to me 392 00:18:07,034 --> 00:18:09,620 That he saw small's car Earlier that day. 393 00:18:09,620 --> 00:18:13,310 He approached the car, And small wasn't in the car. 394 00:18:13,310 --> 00:18:16,724 He said that shaka was In the car with a younger man. 395 00:18:16,724 --> 00:18:18,000 -what's she doing? -I don't know. 396 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,793 Albert don't let nobody Drive his car. 397 00:18:19,793 --> 00:18:22,379 -not even shaka. -then who's that? 398 00:18:22,379 --> 00:18:25,103 I know one thing. That ain't albert. 399 00:18:25,103 --> 00:18:27,241 He was really suspicious And really curious 400 00:18:27,241 --> 00:18:30,379 As to how shaka had possession Of this vehicle. 401 00:18:30,379 --> 00:18:32,206 Now, you've got to Understand, man. 402 00:18:32,206 --> 00:18:34,655 Nobody, And I mean nobody, 403 00:18:34,655 --> 00:18:36,275 Drives that car But albert. 404 00:18:36,275 --> 00:18:38,172 -okay. -that was his baby. 405 00:18:38,172 --> 00:18:40,241 -mm-hmm. -he didn't let anyone near it. 406 00:18:40,241 --> 00:18:43,000 So I went over to shaka to Find out what was going on. 407 00:18:45,689 --> 00:18:47,413 Oh, hey. How are you? 408 00:18:47,413 --> 00:18:49,896 Where's albert? 409 00:18:49,896 --> 00:18:51,275 Oh, he's sleeping. You know him. 410 00:18:51,275 --> 00:18:53,689 He know You driving his car? 411 00:18:53,689 --> 00:18:55,172 Yeah, he told me I could use it. 412 00:18:55,172 --> 00:18:57,275 -you like? -oh, okay. 413 00:18:57,275 --> 00:18:58,655 Evans didn't believe it. 414 00:18:58,655 --> 00:19:01,000 To him, That was very significant. 415 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,206 And afterwards, We just left. 416 00:19:03,206 --> 00:19:06,275 Okay. This guy. You recognize him? 417 00:19:06,275 --> 00:19:07,551 No, sir. 418 00:19:07,551 --> 00:19:09,551 What'd he look like? 419 00:19:09,551 --> 00:19:13,137 I don't know. He was a dark-skinned dude. 420 00:19:13,137 --> 00:19:15,724 Demery: evans explained That he was small-framed, 421 00:19:15,724 --> 00:19:20,379 Close in age to shaka, Early 20's... 422 00:19:20,379 --> 00:19:25,344 That he was wearing A blue shirt and khakis. 423 00:19:25,344 --> 00:19:26,896 Shaka introduce you To him? 424 00:19:26,896 --> 00:19:28,827 No. Not at all. 425 00:19:28,827 --> 00:19:30,827 She didn't introduce us Or anything. 426 00:19:30,827 --> 00:19:32,896 That's what was so weird About it, you know? 427 00:19:32,896 --> 00:19:35,965 After speaking with evans, I really want to find Out who this guy is. 428 00:19:35,965 --> 00:19:37,517 Something's obviously Not right here. 429 00:19:37,517 --> 00:19:40,103 I want to know why he's in a car He's not supposed to be in. 430 00:19:40,103 --> 00:19:42,517 He's important. I need to find him. 431 00:19:54,275 --> 00:19:56,034 [ siren wails ] 432 00:19:59,379 --> 00:20:01,862 Demery: I'm working My first homicide case, 433 00:20:01,862 --> 00:20:03,620 Which was thought To be a suicide. 434 00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:06,310 Now we've confirmed That it's a homicide. 435 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:08,758 We found that the victim's Vehicle was being operated 436 00:20:08,758 --> 00:20:11,310 By his girlfriend And some unknown man. 437 00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:13,137 We need to find out who he is. 438 00:20:16,413 --> 00:20:17,655 There are more questions 439 00:20:17,655 --> 00:20:19,896 That need to be answered In this case, 440 00:20:19,896 --> 00:20:23,413 So I'm gonna go talk to Shaka's aunt, erica clark. 441 00:20:23,413 --> 00:20:25,310 She was with shaka When the body was discovered. 442 00:20:25,310 --> 00:20:27,137 I'm hoping she can shed A little light 443 00:20:27,137 --> 00:20:30,758 On who the gentleman was Inside the car with shaka. 444 00:20:30,758 --> 00:20:32,275 -hey, erica. -hey. 445 00:20:32,275 --> 00:20:34,241 Detective demery. We spoke last night. 446 00:20:34,241 --> 00:20:35,275 Yeah. 447 00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:37,241 Listen. I have A few questions for you. 448 00:20:37,241 --> 00:20:39,551 Okay. This is so unbelievable. 449 00:20:39,551 --> 00:20:42,413 I feel so bad for shaka. 450 00:20:42,413 --> 00:20:43,724 Tell me this. 451 00:20:43,724 --> 00:20:45,551 How did you and shaka Come to find the body? 452 00:20:45,551 --> 00:20:47,275 I mean, were you guys Together the whole day? 453 00:20:47,275 --> 00:20:51,000 No. She came by earlier, But she didn't stay. 454 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,551 And she was driving Albert's car, 455 00:20:52,551 --> 00:20:54,827 Which I thought Was strange. 456 00:21:00,379 --> 00:21:03,275 -hey, auntie. -hey. 457 00:21:03,275 --> 00:21:06,931 Strange because albert never Let her drive the car, right? 458 00:21:06,931 --> 00:21:09,379 No, because wherever One of them went, 459 00:21:09,379 --> 00:21:10,586 They both went. 460 00:21:10,586 --> 00:21:12,931 Mm. Tell me this. 461 00:21:12,931 --> 00:21:15,482 Was albert -- I don't know -- 462 00:21:15,482 --> 00:21:18,103 Possessive or Controlling of shaka? 463 00:21:18,103 --> 00:21:20,586 You could say that, yeah. 464 00:21:20,586 --> 00:21:23,241 But shaka didn't exactly 465 00:21:23,241 --> 00:21:26,000 Give him reason To trust her, either. 466 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 [ television playing ] 467 00:21:32,275 --> 00:21:34,655 -where you going? -I'm going for a run. 468 00:21:34,655 --> 00:21:36,931 -I'll be back. -going where? 469 00:21:39,241 --> 00:21:40,724 To get some cigarettes. 470 00:21:40,724 --> 00:21:42,724 No, you're not. Not without me. 471 00:21:42,724 --> 00:21:44,137 I have my own money, okay? I don't need your -- 472 00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:45,310 -it's not -- -you're -- stop! 473 00:21:45,310 --> 00:21:47,379 -don't grab me! -I'm still going with you. 474 00:21:47,379 --> 00:21:48,862 Man, whatever. 475 00:21:48,862 --> 00:21:51,275 Demery: erica believed That albert didn't have 476 00:21:51,275 --> 00:21:53,000 A whole lot of trust in shaka. 477 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,206 He thought that She was up to something 478 00:21:55,206 --> 00:21:56,482 When he wasn't around, 479 00:21:56,482 --> 00:21:58,379 So he was always Suspicious of her. 480 00:21:58,379 --> 00:22:00,620 Albert wasn't with her When she came by. 481 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:02,724 Was anyone else In the car? 482 00:22:02,724 --> 00:22:05,862 No one else Was in the car. 483 00:22:05,862 --> 00:22:07,448 Even though erica told me She didn't see anyone 484 00:22:07,448 --> 00:22:08,655 In the car with shaka, 485 00:22:08,655 --> 00:22:10,310 I gave her the description Of the person 486 00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:12,724 I'd heard that shaka had been With earlier that day. 487 00:22:12,724 --> 00:22:15,689 Erica didn't have any idea Who that may have been. 488 00:22:15,689 --> 00:22:17,827 What was she coming for? You guys had plans? 489 00:22:17,827 --> 00:22:19,862 She said She wanted to talk. 490 00:22:19,862 --> 00:22:21,586 I need to talk to you About something important. 491 00:22:21,586 --> 00:22:23,137 I don't have time, Sweetie. 492 00:22:23,137 --> 00:22:25,241 Please. I just need Five minutes. Please. 493 00:22:25,241 --> 00:22:27,724 I-I really can't. I will talk to you later. 494 00:22:27,724 --> 00:22:31,551 All right. All right. 495 00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:32,965 Demery: Shaka then leaves the house 496 00:22:32,965 --> 00:22:35,689 And says she's going To her uncle leroy's house. 497 00:22:35,689 --> 00:22:37,413 Erica explains that She doesn't see shaka again 498 00:22:37,413 --> 00:22:39,068 Until later that evening When the two of them 499 00:22:39,068 --> 00:22:40,551 Go over and discover the body. 500 00:22:40,551 --> 00:22:43,000 You see this stuff All the time in movies, 501 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,413 But you never expect to find A dead body in real life, 502 00:22:46,413 --> 00:22:49,206 Especially Somebody you know. 503 00:22:49,206 --> 00:22:51,172 Trust me, I understand. 504 00:22:55,862 --> 00:22:57,827 After I talk to erica, I'm really concerned 505 00:22:57,827 --> 00:23:02,206 There's something going on there That's just not right. 506 00:23:02,206 --> 00:23:06,137 Crow: you had to wonder, Is this the type of relationship 507 00:23:06,137 --> 00:23:10,724 That could become violent Because of these trust issues? 508 00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:13,241 Demery: albert's death Could be drug-related. 509 00:23:13,241 --> 00:23:15,344 It could be a Domestic-violence situation. 510 00:23:15,344 --> 00:23:17,275 Or both. 511 00:23:28,413 --> 00:23:29,827 -hey, demery. -hey. 512 00:23:29,827 --> 00:23:32,310 You made any progress On the albert small shooting? 513 00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:35,275 Yeah. Actually, I was just Getting ready to come find you 514 00:23:35,275 --> 00:23:36,689 And give you an update. 515 00:23:36,689 --> 00:23:39,034 So, here's what We got so far. 516 00:23:39,034 --> 00:23:41,793 Even though I've kind of Taken off on this case 517 00:23:41,793 --> 00:23:44,206 And started investigating It the way I wanted to, 518 00:23:44,206 --> 00:23:46,103 Martin is still The lead investigator. 519 00:23:46,103 --> 00:23:48,620 There are a lot of different Avenues at this point. 520 00:23:48,620 --> 00:23:51,517 So, the way I figure it It's either gonna be drugs 521 00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:53,137 Or maybe in a crime of passion, 522 00:23:53,137 --> 00:23:55,689 But either way, I'm gonna run albert and shaka 523 00:23:55,689 --> 00:23:58,206 Through the system and see If we've got a file on them. 524 00:23:58,206 --> 00:23:59,896 Okay. Keep me posted. 525 00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:01,862 Will do. 526 00:24:01,862 --> 00:24:03,620 When I run their names, 527 00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:05,931 I'm hoping I might Come across a little dirt, 528 00:24:05,931 --> 00:24:09,172 Some minor brush with the law That could lead me somewhere. 529 00:24:09,172 --> 00:24:12,586 Instead, I discover Something much bigger. 530 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,310 I find out That earlier in the year, 531 00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:19,793 Shaka had reported that She was raped by albert small. 532 00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:22,137 However, as I read Through the reports, 533 00:24:22,137 --> 00:24:26,310 I find out that the case Eventually dissolved. 534 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:28,172 Ferrand: At that time, investigators 535 00:24:28,172 --> 00:24:31,000 Tried to follow up on that case, 536 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,896 And when they did, Shaka wasn't cooperating 537 00:24:33,896 --> 00:24:36,379 And was not giving them Any more information. 538 00:24:36,379 --> 00:24:38,551 Crow: Nothing became of that case. 539 00:24:38,551 --> 00:24:40,241 With an allegation of rape, 540 00:24:40,241 --> 00:24:43,000 You start developing A picture of someone 541 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,758 Who may have a motive For mr. Small to be dead. 542 00:24:47,758 --> 00:24:50,000 [ indistinct conversations ] 543 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,862 [ drawer opens, closes ] 544 00:24:51,862 --> 00:24:53,931 Hey, demery. Where you going? 545 00:24:53,931 --> 00:24:56,310 -going to see shaka's uncle. -mm-hmm. 546 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:58,517 Trying to get some Additional information. 547 00:24:58,517 --> 00:25:01,000 Now I think there may be A history of domestic violence. 548 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,551 You want me To go with you? 549 00:25:02,551 --> 00:25:03,931 No, I think I can handle this. 550 00:25:03,931 --> 00:25:05,793 But if I have any questions, I'll give you a call. 551 00:25:05,793 --> 00:25:07,103 Tell you what -- I'll go ahead 552 00:25:07,103 --> 00:25:10,172 And have her brought back in For more questioning. 553 00:25:10,172 --> 00:25:12,310 Okay. Thanks. 554 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:14,793 Demery: shaka's aunt, Erica clark, had told me 555 00:25:14,793 --> 00:25:18,172 That shaka was going To her uncle leroy's house. 556 00:25:18,172 --> 00:25:20,103 If there was An abusive relationship 557 00:25:20,103 --> 00:25:22,724 Or evidence of such, 558 00:25:22,724 --> 00:25:25,137 Leroy might be able to give me Some information on that. 559 00:25:25,137 --> 00:25:27,344 [ rock music plays ] 560 00:25:30,482 --> 00:25:33,172 -how you doing? Leroy? -yeah. 561 00:25:33,172 --> 00:25:35,310 I'm detective demery With the shreveport p.D. 562 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:36,896 -how you doing? -good. You all right? 563 00:25:36,896 --> 00:25:38,103 Good. I got a couple of questions 564 00:25:38,103 --> 00:25:41,344 For you about Albert and shaka. 565 00:25:41,344 --> 00:25:44,896 Man, those two were Like oil and water. 566 00:25:44,896 --> 00:25:46,379 Two people couldn't Be more different. 567 00:25:46,379 --> 00:25:49,310 -mm-hmm. -and the age difference. 568 00:25:49,310 --> 00:25:52,931 I mean, he could've Been her father. You Know what I'm saying? 569 00:25:52,931 --> 00:25:54,931 [ television playing ] 570 00:25:54,931 --> 00:25:58,379 Crow: shaka's uncle Thought that mr. Small 571 00:25:58,379 --> 00:26:00,965 Might be taking advantage Of someone much younger, 572 00:26:00,965 --> 00:26:04,068 Putting her into A type of relationship 573 00:26:04,068 --> 00:26:06,931 Where he was being Very controlling 574 00:26:06,931 --> 00:26:08,724 As to who she saw, Where she went. 575 00:26:08,724 --> 00:26:11,379 And then there was other Things he did to her. 576 00:26:11,379 --> 00:26:13,620 Other things? Like what? 577 00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:15,862 [ sighs ] You know. Getting rough with her. 578 00:26:15,862 --> 00:26:17,689 Demery: leroy told me That he actually knew 579 00:26:17,689 --> 00:26:20,379 That shaka was the victim Of domestic abuse 580 00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:22,793 To the point where He actually interjected 581 00:26:22,793 --> 00:26:25,448 And got into it with small. 582 00:26:30,965 --> 00:26:33,241 -what's up, leroy? -you know what's up. 583 00:26:33,241 --> 00:26:35,034 Where's shaka at? I need to speak to her. 584 00:26:35,034 --> 00:26:36,758 What you need to speak To her about, man? 585 00:26:36,758 --> 00:26:38,241 -shaka! Shaka! -whoa, whoa, whoa. 586 00:26:38,241 --> 00:26:39,793 Why you hollering On my porch, man? 587 00:26:39,793 --> 00:26:42,137 What gives you the right To beat on her like that? 588 00:26:42,137 --> 00:26:44,103 Man, what the hell You talking about, man? 589 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:45,448 You put your hands On her one more time... 590 00:26:45,448 --> 00:26:46,896 -what's he talking about, shaka? -I don't know. 591 00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:48,931 -uncle, please. -this is my woman. 592 00:26:48,931 --> 00:26:50,620 Shaka, get your stuff. Let's go. 593 00:26:50,620 --> 00:26:52,034 Get out of here, man! 594 00:26:52,034 --> 00:26:53,724 -please. Please. -shaka. 595 00:26:53,724 --> 00:26:55,482 -you need to go. -bye. 596 00:26:57,137 --> 00:26:59,551 So he had a real problem With small. 597 00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:03,137 He was well aware Of small's abuse 598 00:27:03,137 --> 00:27:05,344 And wasn't too keen on it. 599 00:27:05,344 --> 00:27:08,137 And I had asked shaka, "What in The hell you see in this guy?" 600 00:27:08,137 --> 00:27:09,758 -mm-hmm. -she'd just brush it off 601 00:27:09,758 --> 00:27:12,137 Like it wasn't nothing. 602 00:27:12,137 --> 00:27:15,103 It was hard as hell trying to Talk some sense into that girl. 603 00:27:15,103 --> 00:27:16,793 Demery: there are A couple different reasons 604 00:27:16,793 --> 00:27:19,551 Why people stay In abusive relationships. 605 00:27:19,551 --> 00:27:21,655 The obvious is out of fear. 606 00:27:21,655 --> 00:27:23,724 The next thing is for resources. 607 00:27:28,206 --> 00:27:31,620 In this case, when someone Has a substance-abuse problem, 608 00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:35,379 They can't get out Because they have nowhere to go. 609 00:27:35,379 --> 00:27:37,034 Listen. 610 00:27:37,034 --> 00:27:39,448 A friend of albert's Saw shaka driving around 611 00:27:39,448 --> 00:27:41,620 In albert's car With some young, 612 00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:43,931 Dark-skinned brother, Skinny. 613 00:27:43,931 --> 00:27:45,172 Any idea Who that might be? 614 00:27:45,172 --> 00:27:48,172 Well, that could've Been her ex-boyfriend. 615 00:27:48,172 --> 00:27:51,000 When she left here, she said She was going to see him. 616 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000 You got a name On that ex-boyfriend? 617 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,689 Uh, vernon. Last name turner, I think. 618 00:27:58,482 --> 00:27:59,827 Demery: Now, at this point, 619 00:27:59,827 --> 00:28:01,655 I'm wondering what type Of relationship 620 00:28:01,655 --> 00:28:04,448 Shaka has with vernon. 621 00:28:04,448 --> 00:28:05,862 Have they gotten back together? 622 00:28:05,862 --> 00:28:07,758 Is she trying to get Somebody to help her 623 00:28:07,758 --> 00:28:09,172 With her problem with small? 624 00:28:09,172 --> 00:28:11,482 A person who feels like They have no options 625 00:28:11,482 --> 00:28:14,068 And they feel like their back Is up against the wall 626 00:28:14,068 --> 00:28:15,551 Are very dangerous. 627 00:28:27,344 --> 00:28:30,000 Demery: I've witnessed Hundreds of autopsies, 628 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,724 And believe me, it changes you. 629 00:28:32,724 --> 00:28:35,827 Those bodies on the table Were somebody's father, 630 00:28:35,827 --> 00:28:38,862 Somebody's mother, Somebody's child. 631 00:28:38,862 --> 00:28:41,551 The empty eyes... 632 00:28:41,551 --> 00:28:45,172 The colorless cheeks That look like clay... 633 00:28:45,172 --> 00:28:47,068 The lifeless silence. 634 00:28:59,172 --> 00:29:02,275 I'm investigating the murder Of 45-year-old albert small. 635 00:29:04,448 --> 00:29:06,862 I found out that shaka ware, His girlfriend, 636 00:29:06,862 --> 00:29:09,965 Has been enduring an abusive Relationship with small. 637 00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:12,103 -how you doing? -I'm good. 638 00:29:12,103 --> 00:29:14,448 I'm looking for Vernon turner. 639 00:29:14,448 --> 00:29:16,275 -yeah, he's right over there. -thank you. 640 00:29:16,275 --> 00:29:20,379 Demery: so now I'm looking to Find shaka's ex-boyfriend. 641 00:29:24,448 --> 00:29:26,551 I want to find out what He knows about the murder. 642 00:29:29,724 --> 00:29:33,448 -vernon turner? -yeah. 643 00:29:33,448 --> 00:29:36,655 Detective demery with the Shreveport police department. 644 00:29:36,655 --> 00:29:39,413 Mind if I ask you a few Questions about shaka ware? 645 00:29:39,413 --> 00:29:41,034 I don't know What to tell you. 646 00:29:41,034 --> 00:29:43,517 We're not together anymore. Me and shaka are still friendly, 647 00:29:43,517 --> 00:29:45,379 But it's 'cause I care about her. 648 00:29:45,379 --> 00:29:47,724 And I worry about her With that albert guy. 649 00:29:47,724 --> 00:29:50,482 As I talk to vernon, he Explains albert's relationship 650 00:29:50,482 --> 00:29:53,034 With shaka in his opinion Was abusive. 651 00:29:53,034 --> 00:29:54,275 He wanted to see her safe. 652 00:29:54,275 --> 00:29:57,827 When was the last time You saw her? 653 00:29:57,827 --> 00:29:58,965 Yesterday. 654 00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:01,482 She was acting All kinds of crazy. 655 00:30:01,482 --> 00:30:03,310 Crazy how? 656 00:30:03,310 --> 00:30:05,758 Nervous, jumpy. 657 00:30:05,758 --> 00:30:07,103 And she said something Stupid like 658 00:30:07,103 --> 00:30:09,413 She hurt albert Or something. 659 00:30:15,379 --> 00:30:17,034 Shaka, what's Going on with you? 660 00:30:17,034 --> 00:30:19,275 [ breathing shakily ] 661 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,965 [ sobbing ] I did it. 662 00:30:22,965 --> 00:30:25,551 I told you I would do it. 663 00:30:25,551 --> 00:30:28,275 Yeah, sure you did, Shaka. 664 00:30:28,275 --> 00:30:31,206 She told him that She'd killed albert. 665 00:30:31,206 --> 00:30:32,862 Vernon didn't believe that. 666 00:30:32,862 --> 00:30:35,068 Girl, you know You ain't killed nobody. 667 00:30:35,068 --> 00:30:36,241 What you talking about? 668 00:30:36,241 --> 00:30:38,551 -of course, I killed him! -well, good for you. 669 00:30:38,551 --> 00:30:41,344 Vernon didn't believe her, Kind of laughed it off, 670 00:30:41,344 --> 00:30:45,275 And he said he even joked About helping her hide the body. 671 00:30:45,275 --> 00:30:47,931 I'm guessing You haven't heard. 672 00:30:47,931 --> 00:30:49,379 What's that? 673 00:30:49,379 --> 00:30:51,000 That albert's dead. 674 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,931 Looking like shaka Might be the one. 675 00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:55,827 Shaka's crazy, But she ain't no murderer. 676 00:30:55,827 --> 00:30:57,862 Demery: Vernon's opinion of shaka 677 00:30:57,862 --> 00:31:01,275 Was that she would never Do anything like that. 678 00:31:01,275 --> 00:31:02,896 It's just not something He's gonna accept. 679 00:31:02,896 --> 00:31:05,241 He knows her too well. 680 00:31:05,241 --> 00:31:06,896 Or at least he thought he did. 681 00:31:06,896 --> 00:31:10,758 Where's shaka at now? Can I talk to her? 682 00:31:10,758 --> 00:31:13,620 No. But I'm about to. 683 00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:16,103 The fact that there was 684 00:31:16,103 --> 00:31:18,103 Some other mysterious man In the vehicle 685 00:31:18,103 --> 00:31:21,206 And all these other things were Totally dismissed at that point. 686 00:31:21,206 --> 00:31:23,758 I think she killed albert small 687 00:31:23,758 --> 00:31:25,931 Simply because He was abusing her. 688 00:31:30,724 --> 00:31:32,620 -hey. -oh, hey. 689 00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:34,413 -where's shaka? -she's in the back. 690 00:31:34,413 --> 00:31:36,448 One of our officers Is taking care of her. 691 00:31:36,448 --> 00:31:37,931 All right. Cool. I'm gonna go talk to her. 692 00:31:37,931 --> 00:31:40,172 Uh, what's up? What's going on? 693 00:31:40,172 --> 00:31:43,551 I tell martin everything That I've learned thus far. 694 00:31:43,551 --> 00:31:46,655 Martin clearly appreciates The gesture, 695 00:31:46,655 --> 00:31:49,310 But martin tells me that he's Gonna lead the interrogation, 696 00:31:49,310 --> 00:31:50,758 And my job Is to sit and observe. 697 00:31:50,758 --> 00:31:53,517 Demery, you've done A great job at this one, 698 00:31:53,517 --> 00:31:55,448 But there's a big difference 699 00:31:55,448 --> 00:31:57,965 Between field work And interrogation. 700 00:31:57,965 --> 00:31:59,689 You better Let me handle this. 701 00:31:59,689 --> 00:32:02,103 Martin just simply wanted To close the case. 702 00:32:02,103 --> 00:32:04,482 Figuring out the case And developing a theory 703 00:32:04,482 --> 00:32:07,827 Was something that had Already been done for him. 704 00:32:07,827 --> 00:32:10,620 Okay. Would you bring shaka ware Down into interrogation? 705 00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:12,448 And I'll talk to her There. 706 00:32:12,448 --> 00:32:15,275 Once I found out 707 00:32:15,275 --> 00:32:17,586 That martin wanted to lead The interrogation, 708 00:32:17,586 --> 00:32:19,896 I determined that I was Gonna go in with him 709 00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:22,793 And let him do so, because, One, I owed him that respect, 710 00:32:22,793 --> 00:32:24,482 Because he was A senior investigator, 711 00:32:24,482 --> 00:32:28,068 And, two, I wanted To see him fail at it. 712 00:32:28,068 --> 00:32:30,620 Come on, demery. You got to watch this. 713 00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:32,689 I'll bet you learn Something today. 714 00:32:41,724 --> 00:32:43,620 [ door closes ] 715 00:32:47,896 --> 00:32:51,275 Hello, shaka. I'm detective martin. 716 00:32:51,275 --> 00:32:54,379 I believe you've met Detective demery at the house. 717 00:32:57,103 --> 00:32:59,586 I knew enough, Even as a rookie detective, 718 00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:01,655 To know that If you don't know exactly 719 00:33:01,655 --> 00:33:04,275 What the moving parts are In a murder investigation, 720 00:33:04,275 --> 00:33:06,172 You can't interrogate anybody. 721 00:33:06,172 --> 00:33:10,310 So my hope was that he'd go in, At some point release the reins, 722 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:12,965 And let me go on With the interrogation. 723 00:33:12,965 --> 00:33:16,103 We pretty much know What happened, 724 00:33:16,103 --> 00:33:18,275 But I want you to tell me. 725 00:33:18,275 --> 00:33:19,620 Demery: I'm watching shaka. 726 00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:21,758 She looked like she was Totally frightened to death. 727 00:33:21,758 --> 00:33:23,586 But I noticed that she had Some bruising on her arms 728 00:33:23,586 --> 00:33:25,758 And her legs, And I'm pretty certain 729 00:33:25,758 --> 00:33:28,103 That she got those From albert. 730 00:33:28,103 --> 00:33:30,689 After I left My aunt and uncle's, 731 00:33:30,689 --> 00:33:33,448 I went to the neighbor's To smoke a cigarette. 732 00:33:33,448 --> 00:33:36,137 Then I went home. 733 00:33:36,137 --> 00:33:39,793 I found the body. I figured he'd shot himself. 734 00:33:39,793 --> 00:33:41,379 [ scoffs ] You can cut the crap. 735 00:33:41,379 --> 00:33:43,827 We both know You shot him. 736 00:33:43,827 --> 00:33:46,586 Demery: martin tried to Confine her to a timeline 737 00:33:46,586 --> 00:33:49,620 And tried to debunk Any response that she had 738 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:51,379 By shooting it down. 739 00:33:51,379 --> 00:33:54,965 That type of interrogation Is a standard textbook thing. 740 00:33:54,965 --> 00:33:56,586 The problem is, That made her feel 741 00:33:56,586 --> 00:33:58,310 Like she was being attacked. 742 00:33:58,310 --> 00:34:02,103 I don't have all day. Are you gonna come clean or not? 743 00:34:02,103 --> 00:34:04,448 I already answered you. 744 00:34:04,448 --> 00:34:07,724 Crow: This is just not going well. 745 00:34:07,724 --> 00:34:09,275 I mean, she's not Coming off her story 746 00:34:09,275 --> 00:34:11,068 That she had nothing To do with it, 747 00:34:11,068 --> 00:34:13,517 That she came home And found him shot in the head, 748 00:34:13,517 --> 00:34:16,034 And that's all She knows about it. 749 00:34:16,034 --> 00:34:20,379 Okay. If that's the way You want to play it, so be it. 750 00:34:24,724 --> 00:34:28,655 Demery: martin leaves, But I stick around. 751 00:34:28,655 --> 00:34:30,827 Now it's just me and shaka... 752 00:34:30,827 --> 00:34:35,137 Staring at each other, Not saying a word. 753 00:34:35,137 --> 00:34:38,689 Although I had never done An interview or an interrogation 754 00:34:38,689 --> 00:34:40,862 In a murder investigation, 755 00:34:40,862 --> 00:34:43,000 I was confident That I could be successful, 756 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,241 So I figured I'd take that opportunity 757 00:34:45,241 --> 00:34:47,827 To find out what I could. 758 00:34:47,827 --> 00:34:50,379 Hey. 759 00:34:50,379 --> 00:34:52,137 I'm sorry about that. 760 00:34:54,448 --> 00:34:57,793 How'd you get Those bruises? 761 00:34:57,793 --> 00:35:00,000 He was beating you, Wasn't he? 762 00:35:01,931 --> 00:35:04,103 And that's why You shot him, right? 763 00:35:04,103 --> 00:35:07,379 Demery: I'm looking at shaka. She looks like a little kid. 764 00:35:07,379 --> 00:35:11,655 And she looked at me and said, "I knew you knew." 765 00:35:11,655 --> 00:35:12,965 At that point, I realized 766 00:35:12,965 --> 00:35:15,275 That she's gonna Tell me the story. 767 00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:27,034 ♪♪ 768 00:35:32,724 --> 00:35:35,517 Demery: so, now I'm In the office with shaka ware, 769 00:35:35,517 --> 00:35:39,517 And when she told me that She had killed albert small, 770 00:35:39,517 --> 00:35:41,034 I was excited. 771 00:35:41,034 --> 00:35:42,482 I can't believe That I'm getting a confession 772 00:35:42,482 --> 00:35:43,862 Off my first murder. 773 00:35:43,862 --> 00:35:46,586 Shaka, I'm gonna have to read You your rights again, okay? 774 00:35:46,586 --> 00:35:48,103 Mack: an interview With a murder suspect 775 00:35:48,103 --> 00:35:50,620 Is a tall order For a veteraninvestigator. 776 00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:54,137 For a rookie investigator, It's huge. 777 00:35:54,137 --> 00:35:56,655 So, you kind of Have to bring your way 778 00:35:56,655 --> 00:35:58,379 Of communication to the table, 779 00:35:58,379 --> 00:36:01,448 Which is something Demery does like 780 00:36:01,448 --> 00:36:03,586 He's been doing it 20 years. 781 00:36:26,068 --> 00:36:28,448 Demery: listening to shaka, I'm Beginning to get a better idea 782 00:36:28,448 --> 00:36:31,241 Of her and albert's Abusive relationship. 783 00:36:31,241 --> 00:36:34,103 He used shaka's addiction To control her. 784 00:36:34,103 --> 00:36:36,000 Albert knew that if he didn't Buy her crack cocaine, 785 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,310 She was gonna wander off 786 00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:39,068 And she'd find somebody else To buy it for her. 787 00:36:39,068 --> 00:36:41,689 So it's how he kept her there. 788 00:36:41,689 --> 00:36:45,896 Shaka explains that albert Took her to get drugs. 789 00:36:45,896 --> 00:36:49,689 When they got back to the house, Albert demanded sex from her. 790 00:36:54,379 --> 00:36:57,068 -baby, no, not right now. -come on. Let's go. 791 00:36:57,068 --> 00:37:00,103 Mack: he wanted to have sex, And she turned him down, 792 00:37:00,103 --> 00:37:01,827 Told him she didn't want to. 793 00:37:01,827 --> 00:37:04,103 They began to argue. He physically pushed her. 794 00:37:04,103 --> 00:37:06,793 No! Aah! 795 00:37:08,896 --> 00:37:10,896 And she stated That he rapes her. 796 00:37:32,724 --> 00:37:34,310 [ albert panting ] 797 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:36,724 Shaka tells me That she is thinking 798 00:37:36,724 --> 00:37:39,862 About her situation And the relationship. 799 00:37:41,758 --> 00:37:44,517 She doesn't want To do it anymore. 800 00:37:44,517 --> 00:37:45,793 She explained this. 801 00:37:45,793 --> 00:37:47,551 She wanted to wait until He got into a position 802 00:37:47,551 --> 00:37:48,793 Where he was vulnerable. 803 00:37:48,793 --> 00:37:52,931 Hey, shaka, fix me some of That red beans and rice. 804 00:37:52,931 --> 00:37:54,620 I'm hungry. 805 00:37:58,586 --> 00:38:01,862 [ television playing ] 806 00:38:01,862 --> 00:38:05,275 He asked her to make Something for him to eat. 807 00:38:07,896 --> 00:38:11,068 And she explained That after he began to eat, 808 00:38:11,068 --> 00:38:13,655 She waited for him To fall asleep. 809 00:38:36,551 --> 00:38:38,724 [ television playing ] 810 00:38:40,586 --> 00:38:42,103 Man on tv: And then, all of a sudden, 811 00:38:42,103 --> 00:38:45,034 I just felt a bite In my side... 812 00:39:05,068 --> 00:39:07,379 She said that After she had realized 813 00:39:07,379 --> 00:39:10,241 What she'd done, She had to stage a crime scene. 814 00:39:25,241 --> 00:39:28,310 She leaves the house. She goes to pick up her friend. 815 00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:35,482 It's the young man That everybody has described 816 00:39:35,482 --> 00:39:37,103 In the vehicle. 817 00:39:37,103 --> 00:39:39,206 She goes to the drug house, Purchases drugs, 818 00:39:39,206 --> 00:39:40,482 And she takes him back. 819 00:39:40,482 --> 00:39:42,827 So he had no other role In the story 820 00:39:42,827 --> 00:39:45,310 Other than going with her To get drugs. 821 00:39:47,793 --> 00:39:49,896 Mack: After that, she started going 822 00:39:49,896 --> 00:39:52,586 To all these Different people's houses, 823 00:39:52,586 --> 00:39:54,862 And everybody seemed too busy 824 00:39:54,862 --> 00:39:56,965 Or didn't want to believe She killed him, 825 00:39:56,965 --> 00:39:59,206 So she returns back to see 826 00:39:59,206 --> 00:40:00,862 Whether or not If he was really dead. 827 00:40:00,862 --> 00:40:02,827 [ television playing ] 828 00:40:21,448 --> 00:40:25,275 -shaka, it's auntie! -auntie, what're you doing here? 829 00:40:25,275 --> 00:40:27,862 I told you I was coming. What? 830 00:40:27,862 --> 00:40:29,827 What's going on, shaka? 831 00:40:33,448 --> 00:40:36,206 What is albert doing With that gun? 832 00:40:36,206 --> 00:40:38,793 I don't know. I think he -- I think he shot himself. 833 00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:45,965 Let's go. 834 00:40:45,965 --> 00:40:49,034 We have to call for help. Come on. 835 00:40:49,034 --> 00:40:51,137 She said they went outside To call the police, 836 00:40:51,137 --> 00:40:52,655 And she flagged one down 837 00:40:52,655 --> 00:40:55,344 And told the police officer That small had shot himself. 838 00:41:06,068 --> 00:41:08,413 It's wrong to take Anyone's life, 839 00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,896 But in a sense, She was also a victim. 840 00:41:10,896 --> 00:41:13,689 She had been through a lot With this man, 841 00:41:13,689 --> 00:41:17,862 And maybe she made cries For help and didn't get heard, 842 00:41:17,862 --> 00:41:21,655 And this was her way Of finally being heard. 843 00:41:21,655 --> 00:41:25,344 Demery: shaka was able to Convince her attorney and others 844 00:41:25,344 --> 00:41:28,931 That she acted As a battered woman, 845 00:41:28,931 --> 00:41:30,931 And they allowed her To take a plea. 846 00:41:30,931 --> 00:41:32,931 She was sentenced To 10 years in prison. 847 00:41:44,482 --> 00:41:47,862 Well, demery, I got to hand it to you. 848 00:41:47,862 --> 00:41:51,482 You really came through On this. 849 00:41:51,482 --> 00:41:55,068 Demery: Martin was pleased. 850 00:41:55,068 --> 00:41:57,724 To this day, he tells everybody How well he trained me, 851 00:41:57,724 --> 00:42:00,206 And I say, "Hey, thanks. 852 00:42:00,206 --> 00:42:02,413 You know, I appreciate your help." 853 00:42:02,413 --> 00:42:06,241 1 for 1. That's a hell of a start. 854 00:42:06,241 --> 00:42:07,620 Thank you, sir. 855 00:42:07,620 --> 00:42:09,896 Solving this case set the tone For the next 15 years, 856 00:42:09,896 --> 00:42:12,068 And I was very confident In my abilities 857 00:42:12,068 --> 00:42:14,310 As far as following my instincts 858 00:42:14,310 --> 00:42:19,551 And feeling natural and Comfortable in working homicide. 859 00:42:19,551 --> 00:42:21,689 Gentlemen, We just received word 860 00:42:21,689 --> 00:42:24,103 Of a murder On appaloosa street. 861 00:42:24,103 --> 00:42:26,310 You think you can Handle this one, demery? 862 00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:29,172 -yes, sir. -good. Then get going. 863 00:42:33,896 --> 00:42:36,206 Demery: I was a homicide detective. 864 00:42:36,206 --> 00:42:37,896 There was no turning back. 65828

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