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[eerie tones playing]
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[utensils clinking]
[indistinct chatter]
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[Steve]
This particular Thanksgiving
was gonna be
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a little bit extra special
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because my grandchildren,
Nick and Haile,
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were gonna be there.
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Nick was 17, Haile was 18.
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They were cousins and very,
very close friends.
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Dinner was supposed to start at
about one o'clock.
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Nick and Haile weren't
there yet.
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We waited and waited
and waited.
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It was about 2:30
or three o'clock
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before we finally just decided
to sit down.
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And quite honestly,
nobody really ate much.
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We were on phones texting
Nick and Haile
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to find out where they were.
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And there was no answer,
no answer, no answer.
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That was really
frazzling everybody.
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There was a sense that
something was not right.
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Never in my wildest dreams did
I think what happened would
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have actually happened.
I believe that evil took over
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that night.
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[eerie "Twinkle Twinkle Little
Star" playing]
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[children eerily singing]
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[theme music continues]
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[theme music intensifies]
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[theme music mellows]
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[Sgt. Luberts]
The day after Thanksgiving,
November 23, 2012,
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I was off work.
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We were sitting downstairs,
my wife Chrissi, at the time,
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and my nine-year-old daughter
Haile, and we were watching
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a Christmas show.
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[phone ringing]
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But I was always on call 24
hours a day, seven days a week.
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We don't have a huge department
with a lot of people.
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In fact, there were only two
investigators for
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the whole county.
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And the deputy told me that
he received a strange call from
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a William Anderson, saying that
his neighbor, Byron Smith,
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had called the Sheriff's Office
wanting to talk to an attorney.
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He said, well, Byron's been
having some problems with some
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break-ins to his place,
and I suspect he might have
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taken things way too far.
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When I heard this description,
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something just wasn't sitting
right in my stomach.
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Smith lived just on
the outskirts of town.
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It's approximately
about a five-minute drive from
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the Sheriff's Office to
Byron Smith's residence.
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And Byron's house,
incidentally,
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is at the dead end...
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...of Elm Street.
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When I pulled into
the driveway, what I did notice
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as I'm pulling up to
his attached garage is that
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there's no vehicles
parked outside.
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[siren wailing]
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I thought that was
a little odd.
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Like, where's his vehicle?
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As I'm exiting my squad car,
I see an older male come out of
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the house with messy gray hair,
wearing a blue jean jacket
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and jeans that appeared like
he slept in them.
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His hands raised
above his head.
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Well, that's not a normal thing
that people typically do
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when I respond to their house to
see what kind of problems
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they're having.
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The hairs on the back of my
neck were starting to stand up.
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And it's like,
OK, now something more
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is possibly happening here.
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I asked him,
"Are you Mr. Smith?
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And he said, "Yes, I am."
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[indistinct background chatter]
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Thoughts were racing through
my head, trying to figure out
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what do I do next?
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I said, "I heard something
happened at your house here.
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Is it OK if we come in
and talk to you?"
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So Byron open the door and we
walked into his residence.
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[door creaking]
[eerie music playing]
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He was very calm.
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I didn't notice any erratic
behavior or anything from him
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at the time.
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He was just matter of fact that
somebody broke into his house.
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There was a window that had
been shattered, and the glass
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was laying on the inside.
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What that indicated is that
somebody had broken the window
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to gain entry into his house.
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Byron told us that the break-in
happened on Thanksgiving Day.
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I thought that was a little odd
when he told me that because
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he's not reporting it now until
the day after Thanksgiving.
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[suspenseful chord strikes]
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So Byron wanted to show us
something in the basement.
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[door creaking]
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And as I'm walking down
the steps,
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I see a rug.
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And I see what looks like
a spot of blood.
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OK, that's kind of
a red flag for me.
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Maybe something's going
on here.
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His walls are white.
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And I see what looks like
a speck of blood on the wall.
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Now the hairs are really
starting to stand up
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on the back of my neck.
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It's like,
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what am I gonna find here?
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So we get to the bottom of
the steps, and this chair was
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in an odd location.
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I don't know why somebody would
set it up like that,
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but it was sitting between
two bookshelves,
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very tall bookshelves.
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There were a bottle of water
and some energy bars.
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Then I also noticed that
the light bulbs above
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the reading chair in
the ceiling had been removed
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and we're sitting in a pile.
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I'm like... wait,
what's going on here?
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Why would somebody do that?
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Then he goes on to tell me that
he's sitting in
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his reading chair,
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and he had heard somebody
walking around
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the house outside.
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He heard somebody
trying the doorknobs.
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Byron would have had ample time
to make a phone call to law
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enforcement and report that,
"Hey, somebody is looking to
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break into my house here."
But he doesn't.
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[glass breaking]
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He said, "I see the footsteps
coming down the stairs.
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"And as he's coming down where
I could see his hips...
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...I fired."
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[gunshot blasts]
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And I'm like, "Whoa, you fired?"
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Now I'm just finding out he has
a gun with him.
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Byron said, "So I went and I sat
back down in my reading chair."
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And he goes, "As I'm sitting
there, I hear somebody trying
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"the door, and then I hear more
footsteps coming
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down the hallway."
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He tells me that it felt like
he was being ganged up on.
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[footsteps clonking]
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Byron said that when he saw
the hip area of this person,
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he shot again.
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[gunshot blasts]
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And she, he used the word
"she," fell to the bottom
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of the stairs.
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And when I heard that,
I'm like, "Oh my God,
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now a female party's involved?"
And I'm just like, whoa.
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I look over at the other deputy
and he's got this huge
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"holy crap" expression on his
face, which I'm sure is the same
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expression I had on my face
at the time because
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I've never heard something like
this before.
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There obviously was something
going on here, and I needed to
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figure out
what the heck it was.
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But at that time, I had no idea
the impact this case
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would have on my life,
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and that it would change
our small community forever.
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I'm asking myself, did I really
hear this right?
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Did Byron Smith just admit to
me that he had basically
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executed two people that had
broke into his house?
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He's very calm about
the whole thing, really.
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But I could tell that he was
not giving me the full story.
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So as I'm looking at this
little bit of blood that I did
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see in the spot where he told
me that he shot these two
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people, it was very odd to me
because there should have been
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a lot more blood in that area.
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As Mr. Smith is explaining
these things to me, I could see
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blood now on his jacket,
on his pants, and then also
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on his shoes.
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And this whole time, I haven't
seen any bodies yet.
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I said, "Well, can you show me
where the bodies are?"
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And he goes, "Follow me."
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There's a closed door that
leads back
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into his office-workroom area.
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And sure enough, I see
the bodies
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lying next to each other.
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I had no idea who these victims
were, but I could see multiple
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gunshot holes in the body of
the female party.
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The male party was wrapped in
a tarp and all I could see was
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his feet and jeans that
he was wearing.
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And I said, "Mr. Smith,
when did this happen?"
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And he told me, "Yesterday
on Thanksgiving."
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I said, "Why did you not report
this incident yesterday?"
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And Smith looks at me and he
says, "Well, just because
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"my day was ruined,
I thought, I don't want to wreck
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your guys' Thanksgiving."
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[Steve] The day was
really a bust.
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At about seven o'clock that
evening, Thanksgiving evening,
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you know, the rest of the kids
were calling around,
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calling friends,
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trying to find out where Nick
and Haile were.
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On Thanksgiving 2012, I was
preparing to have dinner
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with my family.
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I started to worry when I got
a call from his sister,
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wondering if I had heard
from Nick at all.
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And that's kind of where I was
like, OK, there's something
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obviously more going on here.
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[Steve] So it was, uh,
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not a good night.
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[Sarah]
Little Falls is a small town.
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Two teenagers just don't
go missing.
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[Dakota]
Little Falls is your typical
slow-paced town.
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Population right around
about 8,000.
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[Sarah] We're two hours from
the Twin Cities.
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It's just kind of its own
little corner of Minnesota.
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[Dakota] But Little Falls
doesn't have a lot
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for the younger kids to do.
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[Sarah] What teenagers do here,
get in trouble, honestly.
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[Dakota]
I was actually supposed to hang
out with Nick that morning,
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and I just never heard
from him.
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We hung out a lot,
and I do mean a lot.
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I would call him more like
a brother to me than a friend.
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If you're having a bad day
and Nick is there, you're not
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gonna have a bad day for long.
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He's gonna find a way to get
you to smile and cheer up,
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even if you don't want to.
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Nick was really good at
changing the mood into
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a positive way.
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There's not a whole lot of
people that had a bad time
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with him around.
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[Steve] To be really honest,
Nick lit up a room.
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Haile was always polite,
always gracious.
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She just had that nice
air about her.
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There was something with Haile
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that, you know,
you wouldn't expect
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her to be rude to anybody.
Just genuinely nice.
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It was so out of character for
Nick and Haile to not respond.
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Just unthinkable.
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Where are you?
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[crows cawing]
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[Steve]
We couldn't file a missing
persons claim for 24 hours.
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So we had to wait till
the next day.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
The whole time I'm thinking,
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OK, has a crime
been committed here?
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I knew that Mr. Smith had
the legal right to
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defend himself.
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He had the legal right to use
lethal force in his home.
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So the law states that.
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But the problem, what I see,
was these people
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were not armed.
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So I had to make the ultimate
decision to place him
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under arrest.
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Mr. Smith's answer to me was,
"Yes, I understand.
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I know you're just doing
your job."
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As I'm going around the outside
of the house, I noticed
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surveillance cameras
that were set up.
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So that was an indication to me
that, hey, there's possibly
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some video recording of this
incident that I could get.
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[Sarah]
Back at the station,
deputies had Byron Smith in
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an interview room.
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And said they'd be right back.
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So they had him
in the room by himself.
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And they were watching him
through double-sided glass.
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They needed to figure out
if Smith was telling the whole
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truth, if this really
was self-defense,
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or if this was
cold-blooded murder.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
In the meantime,
we got a call
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from two Minnesota
State Patrol officers.
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They said "We noticed
something odd."
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A vehicle was parked in front
of our residence here on
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Thanksgiving Day yesterday,
and we have no idea whose
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vehicle it is.
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So they ran the license plate
on the truck,
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and it came back to
Byron Smith.
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Why in the heck is Smith's
vehicle parked a quarter mile
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away in front of some State
Patrol officer's house?
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[Sarah]
Early on, as information was
trickling out, people were for
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sure taking Smith's side.
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People feel connected to
defending their property.
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It was kind of this rumor mill
that ended up
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turning into pretty big news,
and everyone was
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picking a side.
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It was becoming a powder
keg situation.
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And the story
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was gonna get pretty crazy.
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[Sarah]
Byron Smith had just admitted
that he had shot two people in
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his basement
claiming self-defense,
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but they're not sure if
he's telling the whole truth.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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[Sgt. Luberts]
After I arrested Byron Smith,
our Sheriff's Office dispatch
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received a phone call from
the parents of two juveniles,
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17-year-old male party by
the name of Nicholas Brady
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and his 18-year-old cousin,
Haile Kaifer.
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It was reported that both
juveniles are missing
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over a day now.
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Well, we got a description of
both of them and it seemed to
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add up and match pretty close
to the juveniles that we had
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currently in the basement at
Smith's house.
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[dog barking distantly]
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[Steve]
We live out in the country
and this vehicle pulls down
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our long driveway.
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We were actually hopeful that
it was Nick and Haile.
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My wife finally looked out
our window and saw that it was
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the chaplain, and she knew
something was not right.
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[knocking]
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The deputy and the chaplain
told us that Nick and Haile had
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both been shot
burglarizing a house.
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No more details other
than that.
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My first thought was, why would
you break into a house?
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And it was just devastating,
losing my grandson,
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losing Haile,
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for something that both
knew better.
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No Thanksgiving has been
the same since then.
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So,
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trying to get myself
calm here.
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[Sarah] Back at the station,
deputies were watching Byron
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Smith, trying to figure out
what is going on
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inside his head.
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[Sgt. Luberts] I looked through
the two-way mirror at Smith.
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He's sitting there,
he's getting a little restless,
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getting a little antsy,
because now it's been
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a little while.
So I sit down with Byron.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
What I knew about Byron Smith
is that he's a 64-year-old
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retired man that lived alone.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
He told me that the house was
his family home that
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he grew up in.
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He initially had been
working overseas,
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installing surveillance cameras
in embassies
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throughout the world.
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That's what he did
for a living.
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[Sarah]
Smith was a bit of a loner.
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You know, didn't have a lot of
visitors come to his home.
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But that summer of 2012,
uh, decided to hire someone to
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come take care of his lawn.
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[knocking]
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[motor running]
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Several boys were cutting
this grass.
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Nick Brady ended up being one
of those kids that came over to
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do lawn work for him.
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During that time, that's when
Byron started to notice things
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were missing, including his POW
watch and a bomber jacket.
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And that's when he fired him
and told him
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never to come back to
his house.
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But by October 2012,
his house was still getting
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broken into.
He was clearly angry.
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I mean, anybody would be angry
if their house was broken
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into continually.
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Like, he kind of became
this target.
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And at one point, some arrests
were made.
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But it just, in his mind,
wasn't what he imagined should
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happen to someone who was
breaking into his home.
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And so he went from trying to
get the law to help him to
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taking the law into
his own hands.
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Like, I'm going to deal with
this myself.
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So he had surveillance cameras
all around the outside
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of his house.
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In one camera he had facing
there, where his property line
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was, you could see one of
his neighbors homes, and that
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happened to be the one neighbor
who he was convinced was
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breaking into his home.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
During Smith's interview
he tells me that he's never
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gotten along with his neighbors,
the Williams, next door.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
And he I suspected that it was
the Williams' daughter that was
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involved in
previous burglaries.
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And so he went from being
a victim to being a vigilante.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
Smith told me that he thought
he had killed Ashley Williams,
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the girl that lived
next door to him.
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[Ashley]
I shouldn't have been involved.
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I shouldn't have even been
brought up.
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I shouldn't be here right now
doing this interview.
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Once upon a time, it was a good
place to live, on Elm Street.
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But Byron Smith is a cruel,
heartless man.
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He had a deep hate towards me.
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I didn't feel safe
being his neighbor.
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I live in fear, knowing it was
supposed to be me.
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I felt it important to get
my story out there, my truth,
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because I don't know what
tomorrow brings.
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[Ashley]
My thought on hiding my
identity was because I was
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absolutely victimized by
Byron Smith,
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and I would like to not be
a victim or feel like
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a victim anymore.
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His claims were very absurd,
100% not true.
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As far as my record for
breaking and entering any place
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is null and void.
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I have never stole from
anybody, and I would never.
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When I was in grade school,
I went down to his house to
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sell him cookies for
the school, and he didn't want
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nothing to do with it.
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That was the one and only time
I ever been to his house.
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I didn't feel
safe being his neighbor.
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Growing up, I had cats and a
family dog go missing, because
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they went onto his property,
and I think that he killed them
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because of that.
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I wish I knew why he had so
much anger towards me.
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[Sarah]
When Byron Smith's house
started being broken into
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in October of 2012,
he made her the bad guy
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and invented this whole plan of
vengeance against this girl.
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But it actually made no sense.
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She didn't actually live there
at the time.
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The timeline of when his jacket
went missing
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didn't actually make sense.
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She would have been a baby
at the time.
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So I would say
his mental state was
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shaky at best.
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A lot of his peers talked about
how he had a bit of
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a short temper.
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He was becoming a very
disturbed individual and it was
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becoming a powder
keg situation.
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It was only a matter of time
before he was gonna explode.
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[gunshot blasts]
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He said he fell down the stairs
and was laying wounded at
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the bottom of the stairs.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
And he goes, "As I'm sitting
there, a little while later,
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I hear more footsteps
descending the stairs."
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[Sgt. Luberts]
He says, "Ashley Williams fell
to the bottom of the stairs,
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and she's wounded."
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Again, he said,
"I just want her dead.
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"I take my rifle,
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[gun clicking]
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I point it at her."
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00:26:52,931 --> 00:26:54,206
[shrill screaming]
[gunshot blasts]
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00:27:03,758 --> 00:27:05,206
[echoey laughter]
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[laughter continues]
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[Sarah]
You could see almost that, when
people describe him as being
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a bullied kid, you could see
that come out in that moment.
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00:27:15,931 --> 00:27:17,344
You know, it's like
he heard things
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that didn't really happen.
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"So I grabbed my pistol I had at
my side, I aimed at her chest
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and I shot and I shot
and I shot."
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[gunshots blast]
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00:27:35,586 --> 00:27:37,206
[shallow breathing]
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[gunshot blasts]
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[Sgt. Luberts, whispering]
And I'm like, wow.
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[Sgt. Luberts, normally]
He said, "When she quit moving,
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"I then grabbed her and laid her
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on the tarp next to him."
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And he said, "I just sat with
the bodies in the basement,
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"fearful that the Williams
family was gonna come over with
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firearms, you know, to kill me."
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[church-like bell rings]
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[Sarah]
I would describe Byron Smith as
like, kind of a Norman
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Bates-type character,
like Norman Bates from
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the movie Psycho.
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If you've ever seen the end of
Psycho where he's kind of just
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sitting in a rocking chair,
just super calm,
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watching the fly fly
around the room.
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00:29:04,965 --> 00:29:08,137
But in his head, he's having
a psychotic break.
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He's already killed people.
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That was kind of Byron's
demeanor a lot of the time,
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like just not wanting to break
in front of people,
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[eerie giggling]
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But then, at any moment,
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he could snap.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
It was vitally important that
we keep Smith in custody,
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or there's a strong likelihood
that somebody else could be
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shot and killed.
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After I finished my interviews
with Byron, I drafted up five
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separate search warrants.
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From the search warrant at
Smith's house, we found out
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that he had moved the rugs at
the bottom of the steps
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where I initially was talking
with Byron.
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What they discovered was brain
matter, pools of blood,
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and also blood marks dragging
across the carpet that led back
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to his office workroom.
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00:30:07,517 --> 00:30:13,172
So it appeared very deliberate
and intentional on Byron's part
448
00:30:13,172 --> 00:30:17,068
that he had taken those rugs
and covered up the spot.
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Well, I was in the back office
workroom where the bodies were,
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And I found a digital,
handheld audio recorder sitting
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on top of his desk back there.
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And we found the same exact
type of recorder hidden in
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the bookshelf above
his reading chair.
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I had this odd feeling in
the pit of my stomach.
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And what we found was the holy
grail piece of evidence
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in this case.
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It recorded a monologue of
Byron Smith basically
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rehearsing what
he was gonna do if anybody
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broke into his house.
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[Sarah] Over and over again,
practicing saying,
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"I think I need to speak to
an attorney."
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[Sarah] Just insane.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
And it turns out that recorder
actually recorded everything.
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[Sgt. Luberts]
I had five separate search
warrants at hand.
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And I met with
the county attorney
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at Byron Smith's house.
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00:31:46,344 --> 00:31:50,310
There were some very important
key pieces of evidence that
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00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:51,931
we needed to get in this case.
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00:31:58,689 --> 00:32:00,793
What we found in
the surveillance videos was
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that around 11:00 AM on
Thanksgiving Day, Smith went
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outside and got into his pickup
and drove the pickup away.
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Little while later, we saw him
walking back through the woods
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00:32:11,896 --> 00:32:14,724
to his house,
hiding his vehicle away from
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the house to make it look like
nobody was home.
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You know, we have a lot of deer
hunters in Minnesota,
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00:32:20,551 --> 00:32:22,000
and this is what we do.
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00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,655
We sit in a deer stand,
and we have food and water
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00:32:25,655 --> 00:32:28,000
and that, so we can sit
for the long haul and wait
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for the prey to come in.
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00:32:29,172 --> 00:32:31,551
Well, that's what it seemed
like Byron did.
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00:32:31,551 --> 00:32:33,068
[creaking]
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00:32:35,172 --> 00:32:38,172
[Sarah]
To be sitting in your basement
in the middle of the day in
483
00:32:38,172 --> 00:32:42,482
complete darkness, waiting for
someone to break into your
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00:32:42,482 --> 00:32:46,137
house and to make it appear
that you're not home, so that
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00:32:46,137 --> 00:32:50,551
they want to come in, so that
you can kill them, is like
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00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:52,758
another level of depravity.
487
00:32:52,758 --> 00:32:56,310
[Sgt. Luberts]
What we captured on that
digital recorder paints
488
00:32:56,310 --> 00:33:00,068
the perfect picture of what
I basically suspected
489
00:33:00,068 --> 00:33:02,379
when I placed Smith
under arrest,
490
00:33:02,379 --> 00:33:06,620
is that this was a murder
and not self-defense.
491
00:33:18,034 --> 00:33:20,103
[Sgt. Luberts]
When Nick initially came in,
492
00:33:21,206 --> 00:33:22,758
you can hear the window break.
493
00:33:24,793 --> 00:33:28,172
You can hear the footsteps
descend down the stairs.
494
00:33:29,586 --> 00:33:31,137
And then you hear
495
00:33:32,137 --> 00:33:33,931
the initial one shot.
496
00:33:38,275 --> 00:33:39,655
Now, he's laying there wounded.
497
00:33:40,551 --> 00:33:42,758
Then you hear a final shot,
498
00:33:45,206 --> 00:33:47,689
where Byron shot Nick
in the head.
499
00:33:53,551 --> 00:33:57,413
You can hear the body dragging
across the floor to his back
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00:33:57,413 --> 00:33:58,689
office room.
501
00:34:00,103 --> 00:34:02,931
A little while later,
we see Nick's cousin,
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00:34:02,931 --> 00:34:05,862
Haile, come walking up
to the house.
503
00:34:05,862 --> 00:34:09,241
But then that's the last thing
we see of her on video.
504
00:34:10,344 --> 00:34:13,379
Smith said that he went and sat
back down in his chair.
505
00:34:13,379 --> 00:34:15,862
But what he didn't tell me was
he had actually
506
00:34:15,862 --> 00:34:17,275
reloaded his gun.
507
00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:22,172
11 minutes later, Haile came
in the house.
508
00:34:22,172 --> 00:34:25,862
When she got to the top of
the stairs, you could actually
509
00:34:25,862 --> 00:34:27,206
hear Haile whispering.
510
00:34:30,034 --> 00:34:33,068
She slowly started to descend
the stairs
511
00:34:33,068 --> 00:34:35,000
looking for her cousin.
512
00:34:35,758 --> 00:34:37,000
That's when you hear
513
00:34:42,620 --> 00:34:45,000
Now she's laying there wounded.
514
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,655
Smith says he goes to
finish her off.
515
00:34:47,655 --> 00:34:49,448
He aims the gun at her.
516
00:34:52,413 --> 00:34:54,827
That's when his rifle
jammed on him.
517
00:35:00,862 --> 00:35:04,000
When Smith told me that
Haile was laughing at him,
518
00:35:04,896 --> 00:35:06,068
that was a lie.
519
00:35:06,068 --> 00:35:08,862
She was pleading for her life.
520
00:35:37,448 --> 00:35:41,034
[Sarah]
He wrapped both of their bodies
in tarps and just kept them
521
00:35:41,034 --> 00:35:42,172
there overnight.
522
00:35:42,172 --> 00:35:45,172
He had no regard for
their remains, just totally
523
00:35:45,172 --> 00:35:48,793
disconnected himself from them
as humans, much less kids.
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00:35:48,793 --> 00:35:52,344
It'd be awful to happen to
anybody, but the fact that
525
00:35:52,344 --> 00:35:56,448
they were children was really,
really just disturbing.
526
00:36:13,551 --> 00:36:15,310
[Sgt. Luberts]
So he was initially charged
with two counts of
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00:36:15,310 --> 00:36:19,586
second-degree murder, and then
a grand jury was convened
528
00:36:19,586 --> 00:36:22,655
and they agreed that he should
be charged with two counts of
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00:36:22,655 --> 00:36:24,310
first-degree murder.
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00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:27,862
[Sarah]
When this broke, there was only
a couple reporters covering it.
531
00:36:27,862 --> 00:36:30,000
It was me and Horsome
County Record.
532
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,379
I mean, I'd say "hi" to him
in the morning.
533
00:36:33,379 --> 00:36:36,482
Byron Smith comes across as
a really kind person.
534
00:36:36,482 --> 00:36:39,517
He's very quiet and has a very
soft demeanor.
535
00:36:39,517 --> 00:36:44,137
But then when he feels cornered
or he feels humiliated,
536
00:36:44,137 --> 00:36:45,517
something happens.
537
00:36:45,517 --> 00:36:49,137
There is another person that
just comes out, and he just,
538
00:36:50,689 --> 00:36:52,206
it's-- it's scary.
539
00:36:54,275 --> 00:36:57,344
[Ashley]
During the trial, I listened
to the recordings.
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00:36:58,310 --> 00:37:00,689
They still haunt me.
541
00:37:00,689 --> 00:37:06,551
I learned that he was targeting
me, which to me was a blind
542
00:37:06,551 --> 00:37:09,586
side, and to this day,
it affects me.
543
00:37:11,586 --> 00:37:14,931
[Steve] Sitting in the
courtroom, listening to that,
544
00:37:16,275 --> 00:37:17,448
I've been angry.
545
00:37:17,448 --> 00:37:22,172
I've never experienced rage
in my life.
546
00:37:22,172 --> 00:37:27,379
Listening to him talk about my
grandson and Haile that way,
547
00:37:29,379 --> 00:37:32,275
I literally could have gotten up
and attacked him
548
00:37:32,275 --> 00:37:33,827
right in the courtroom.
549
00:37:38,551 --> 00:37:40,000
[Dakota]
He's a monster.
550
00:37:41,413 --> 00:37:44,862
No regular human being could go
to that extent.
551
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,241
I don't know any way to put it
besides a monster.
552
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000
[Steve]
He just wanted to be judge,
jury, and executioner.
553
00:37:55,862 --> 00:37:58,655
Haile was looking for Nick.
She was not a perpetrator.
554
00:37:58,655 --> 00:38:01,931
I don't believe that she was
doing anything other than
555
00:38:01,931 --> 00:38:03,448
searching for her cousin.
556
00:38:04,965 --> 00:38:06,862
And she certainly bore the--
557
00:38:09,517 --> 00:38:12,689
bore the brunt of
Smith's rage.
558
00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:17,241
[broadcaster]
In the Little Falls trial of
Byron Smith, the man charged
559
00:38:17,241 --> 00:38:19,724
with killing two people in
his own home, two very
560
00:38:19,724 --> 00:38:22,896
different pictures are painted
by the prosecutor and defense.
561
00:38:22,896 --> 00:38:24,862
[broadcaster #2] Smith's defense
attorneys are trying to see
562
00:38:24,862 --> 00:38:26,758
if self-defense holds up.
563
00:38:26,758 --> 00:38:29,103
[broadcaster #3]
And jurors in the Byron Smith
case will now consider four
564
00:38:29,103 --> 00:38:32,137
counts, two of which are
first-degree murder.
565
00:38:34,551 --> 00:38:37,862
[Sgt. Luberts]
Smith was tried and convicted
of two counts of first-degree
566
00:38:37,862 --> 00:38:41,448
murder and sentenced to prison
for the rest of his life.
567
00:38:44,172 --> 00:38:48,586
[Sarah]
I would say it set a precedent
for Minnesota case law here in
568
00:38:48,586 --> 00:38:52,000
just how self-defense works.
569
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,793
[Sgt. Luberts]
The news media really hyped
this case up about the Castle
570
00:38:54,793 --> 00:38:59,000
Doctrine Law and it became
national news.
571
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,413
[woman featured on TV]
You're in your home, you're
broken into,
572
00:39:01,413 --> 00:39:04,206
you can shoot the intruder to
protect yourself.
573
00:39:04,206 --> 00:39:07,862
This is called the Castle Law
in Minnesota.
574
00:39:09,344 --> 00:39:11,000
[Sgt. Luberts]
It was very divided.
575
00:39:12,206 --> 00:39:14,620
We would get a parade of cars
past our house,
576
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,724
people harassing us.
577
00:39:16,724 --> 00:39:20,655
Well, that was very hard on
my family.
578
00:39:20,655 --> 00:39:23,793
My wife finally had enough
and wanted a divorce,
579
00:39:23,793 --> 00:39:25,172
and I ended up
getting divorced.
580
00:39:27,896 --> 00:39:31,000
[Steve]
I remember going into town,
and a couple of people
581
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,724
made some hurtful comments
that, you know,
582
00:39:33,724 --> 00:39:37,068
this was my fault or this was
my family's fault.
583
00:39:38,241 --> 00:39:40,862
There's times when I actually
have a bulletproof vest
584
00:39:40,862 --> 00:39:42,206
that I wear.
585
00:39:43,137 --> 00:39:45,275
I had people stalking me, so.
586
00:39:46,655 --> 00:39:51,482
[Ashley]
I would read online the people
that sided with Byron and their
587
00:39:51,482 --> 00:39:54,896
opinions about Nick and Haile.
588
00:39:54,896 --> 00:39:58,103
I just wished at the time that
I could tell my story.
589
00:39:59,241 --> 00:40:02,413
He is a cruel, heartless man.
590
00:40:06,137 --> 00:40:09,206
[Sarah]
I think we paint this picture
that this town is divided.
591
00:40:09,206 --> 00:40:11,689
I just think that this town
is sad.
592
00:40:13,724 --> 00:40:18,344
[Steve]
For people who pay attention to
the news, there's always two
593
00:40:18,344 --> 00:40:19,724
sides to the story.
594
00:40:19,724 --> 00:40:22,758
Be open-minded enough to get
both sides.
595
00:40:23,862 --> 00:40:28,275
Mr. Smith wanted revenge,
and he didn't care how
596
00:40:28,275 --> 00:40:29,793
he got it.
597
00:40:30,482 --> 00:40:35,379
I've had properties broken into
before and you feel violated,
598
00:40:35,379 --> 00:40:36,655
but it's stuff,
599
00:40:37,482 --> 00:40:40,000
you know, stuff can
be replaced.
600
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Taking a human life is way,
way different than that.
601
00:40:46,034 --> 00:40:48,448
[Dakota]
If I could talk to Nick
or Haile, I'd probably tell
602
00:40:48,448 --> 00:40:50,862
them both that I miss them
and everybody down here misses
603
00:40:50,862 --> 00:40:53,103
them and it's just,
it ain't the same.
604
00:40:54,448 --> 00:40:58,517
[Steve]
My hope for Nick would have
been that he had consequences
605
00:40:58,517 --> 00:41:01,241
for his actions,
that he learned from them
606
00:41:01,241 --> 00:41:02,689
and that he moved on.
607
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,620
Haile would have found
true happiness.
608
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:11,551
She was such a nice young lady
that, you know, if she would
609
00:41:11,551 --> 00:41:14,448
have chosen to get married,
there'd be 100 guys out there
610
00:41:14,448 --> 00:41:17,413
that would be dying to
marry her.
611
00:41:17,413 --> 00:41:20,586
Nick's personality would have
gotten him certainly
612
00:41:20,586 --> 00:41:21,862
high places.
613
00:41:23,275 --> 00:41:26,482
Do I miss them?
Every day.
614
00:41:26,482 --> 00:41:31,344
There isn't a day goes by that
I don't think about them
615
00:41:31,344 --> 00:41:32,517
with a smile on their face.
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