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Sam is great at making fun house

pictures I mean it's like going to a fun

house you laugh and then you get scared

and then you laugh and then you get

scared

evil dead 2 really seems to have shown

that it has legs that's the movie that

broke the boundaries

broke the boundaries

evil dead 2 stands alone as straight entertainment

great stick and a little scare factor I

never knew it would have this kind of a

cultural impact and it certainly does

what's the room in there evil that -

what's the room in there evil that - represented going back to our comfort

represented going back to our comfort

represented going back to our comfort spot and we also were better filmmakers

spot and we also were better filmmakers

spot and we also were better filmmakers at that point so it's actually not a

at that point so it's actually not a

at that point so it's actually not a horrible experience

now after the first people that came out

now after the first people that came out in 82 overseas 83 domestically we're

in 82 overseas 83 domestically we're

in 82 overseas 83 domestically we're onto other stuff we wanted to do

onto other stuff we wanted to do

onto other stuff we wanted to do something completely different cuz it

something completely different cuz it

something completely different cuz it was a very you know we enjoyed the genre

was a very you know we enjoyed the genre

was a very you know we enjoyed the genre but I wouldn't call us horror geeks at

but I wouldn't call us horror geeks at

but I wouldn't call us horror geeks at that time you know we made a horror film

that time you know we made a horror film

that time you know we made a horror film because it was a good way to get your

because it was a good way to get your

because it was a good way to get your foot in the door people don't quite

foot in the door people don't quite

foot in the door people don't quite realize that you know we shot the movie

realize that you know we shot the movie

realize that you know we shot the movie in 79 80 premiered it in 81 and it

in 79 80 premiered it in 81 and it

in 79 80 premiered it in 81 and it didn't come out till 83

didn't come out till 83

didn't come out till 83 so there's years in there of sitting

so there's years in there of sitting

so there's years in there of sitting around those offices in Ferndale we

around those offices in Ferndale we

around those offices in Ferndale we wanted you know to do other stories so

wanted you know to do other stories so

wanted you know to do other stories so crime wave was the next movie that we

crime wave was the next movie that we

crime wave was the next movie that we did the Coen brothers the ill-fated

did the Coen brothers the ill-fated

did the Coen brothers the ill-fated crime wave and as Bruce has said it was

crime wave and as Bruce has said it was

crime wave and as Bruce has said it was just the continuation of the Evil Dead

just the continuation of the Evil Dead

just the continuation of the Evil Dead shoot of how miserable can this all be

shoot of how miserable can this all be

shoot of how miserable can this all be this was the first studio thing we spent

this was the first studio thing we spent

this was the first studio thing we spent we went from two and a half million

we went from two and a half million

we went from two and a half million dollars up to four million big cost

dollars up to four million big cost

dollars up to four million big cost overruns that's that's almost double you

overruns that's that's almost double you

overruns that's that's almost double you know that's where people get fired I

know that's where people get fired I

know that's where people get fired I felt badly because Sam Robb and Bruce

felt badly because Sam Robb and Bruce

felt badly because Sam Robb and Bruce were really just having a bad go of it

were really just having a bad go of it

were really just having a bad go of it with the studio and stuff the Hollywood

with the studio and stuff the Hollywood

with the studio and stuff the Hollywood crew basically said not you can't use

crew basically said not you can't use

crew basically said not you can't use Bruce but the vehicle was written for

Bruce but the vehicle was written for

Bruce but the vehicle was written for Bruce should have starred Bruce and the

Bruce should have starred Bruce and the

Bruce should have starred Bruce and the film was rieta did and the studio got

film was rieta did and the studio got

film was rieta did and the studio got involved and we lost control of it and

involved and we lost control of it and

involved and we lost control of it and the you know it was a huge learning

the you know it was a huge learning

the you know it was a huge learning curve and after that bond we were like

curve and after that bond we were like

curve and after that bond we were like well this isn't good and those guys

well this isn't good and those guys

well this isn't good and those guys thought their career had ended already

thought their career had ended already

thought their career had ended already and the only thing that's and at that

and the only thing that's and at that

and the only thing that's and at that point that seemed logical was Evil Dead

point that seemed logical was Evil Dead

point that seemed logical was Evil Dead 2 and Sam was adamantly against it so

2 and Sam was adamantly against it so

2 and Sam was adamantly against it so ostensibly Sam Bruce and Rob hired Scott

ostensibly Sam Bruce and Rob hired Scott

ostensibly Sam Bruce and Rob hired Scott and I to make Evil Dead 2 when they were

and I to make Evil Dead 2 when they were

and I to make Evil Dead 2 when they were going to executive produce and I wrote a

going to executive produce and I wrote a

going to executive produce and I wrote a draft of Evil Dead 2 that has absolutely

draft of Evil Dead 2 that has absolutely

draft of Evil Dead 2 that has absolutely nothing to do with what became Evil Dead

nothing to do with what became Evil Dead

nothing to do with what became Evil Dead 2 anyway nobody liked it and they didn't

2 anyway nobody liked it and they didn't

2 anyway nobody liked it and they didn't really want to do it anyway and when it

really want to do it anyway and when it

really want to do it anyway and when it looked like they were not going to get

looked like they were not going to get

looked like they were not going to get another movie

another movie

another movie they were able to get to Dino De

they were able to get to Dino De

they were able to get to Dino De Laurentiis and pitch him the idea of

Laurentiis and pitch him the idea of

Laurentiis and pitch him the idea of Evil Dead 2 and he went for it there's a

Evil Dead 2 and he went for it there's a

Evil Dead 2 and he went for it there's a Stephen King influence on this whole

Stephen King influence on this whole

Stephen King influence on this whole thing which is Stephen King made Evil

thing which is Stephen King made Evil

thing which is Stephen King made Evil Dead in a way because he did that

Dead in a way because he did that

Dead in a way because he did that interview in Twilight Zone magazine he

interview in Twilight Zone magazine he

interview in Twilight Zone magazine he loved it so much he did you know he did

loved it so much he did you know he did

loved it so much he did you know he did that glowing piece about it

that glowing piece about it

that glowing piece about it so he's down in North Carolina doing

so he's down in North Carolina doing

so he's down in North Carolina doing Maximum Overdrive as a director right

Maximum Overdrive as a director right

Maximum Overdrive as a director right and there's a second ad who was on the

and there's a second ad who was on the

and there's a second ad who was on the second unit shoot of crimewave when

second unit shoot of crimewave when

second unit shoot of crimewave when they're having lunch and Sam's name gets

they're having lunch and Sam's name gets

they're having lunch and Sam's name gets brought up right and so he goes to Dino

brought up right and so he goes to Dino

brought up right and so he goes to Dino and says you should actually do the

and says you should actually do the

and says you should actually do the sequel to Evil Dead do you know

sequel to Evil Dead do you know

sequel to Evil Dead do you know DiLaurentis jumped in after he saw the

DiLaurentis jumped in after he saw the

DiLaurentis jumped in after he saw the sales of Evil Dead one because Dino is

sales of Evil Dead one because Dino is

sales of Evil Dead one because Dino is all about the foreign market and so he

all about the foreign market and so he

all about the foreign market and so he saw those numbers and we had a deal we

saw those numbers and we had a deal we

saw those numbers and we had a deal we had language we were talking with

had language we were talking with

had language we were talking with coca-cola was thinking of getting into

coca-cola was thinking of getting into

coca-cola was thinking of getting into the movie business

the movie business

the movie business you know embassy pictures things like

you know embassy pictures things like

you know embassy pictures things like that and so we dabbled with that but

that and so we dabbled with that but

that and so we dabbled with that but nothing was coming about Dino De

nothing was coming about Dino De

nothing was coming about Dino De Laurentiis we had a meeting with him we

Laurentiis we had a meeting with him we

Laurentiis we had a meeting with him we had a deal in 15 minutes one Evil Dead 2

had a deal in 15 minutes one Evil Dead 2

had a deal in 15 minutes one Evil Dead 2 came along they did everything within

came along they did everything within

came along they did everything within their power to kind of and to get back

their power to kind of and to get back

their power to kind of and to get back to the egg go okay let's do Evil Dead 2

to the egg go okay let's do Evil Dead 2

to the egg go okay let's do Evil Dead 2 let's go back to our horror roots now

let's go back to our horror roots now

let's go back to our horror roots now ironically Evil Dead 2 has a lot of

ironically Evil Dead 2 has a lot of

ironically Evil Dead 2 has a lot of comedy in it which is weird but when Sam

comedy in it which is weird but when Sam

comedy in it which is weird but when Sam Raimi pitched me my involvement in the

Raimi pitched me my involvement in the

Raimi pitched me my involvement in the phone I'm gonna get you to write it I

phone I'm gonna get you to write it I

phone I'm gonna get you to write it I had done a short film called attack of

had done a short film called attack of

had done a short film called attack of the helping hand this is a short film of

the helping hand this is a short film of

the helping hand this is a short film of the hamburger helper attacking the

the hamburger helper attacking the

the hamburger helper attacking the housewife but in that Sam Raimi plays

housewife but in that Sam Raimi plays

housewife but in that Sam Raimi plays the milkman and the helping hands all

the milkman and the helping hands all

the milkman and the helping hands all over the place of course it gives her

over the place of course it gives her

over the place of course it gives her the finger it was really cool Sam goes

the finger it was really cool Sam goes

the finger it was really cool Sam goes I'm gonna take that short it's gonna be

I'm gonna take that short it's gonna be

I'm gonna take that short it's gonna be attacking the helping hand meets Evil

attacking the helping hand meets Evil

attacking the helping hand meets Evil Dead no no I totally get the movie

Dead no no I totally get the movie

Dead no no I totally get the movie you're making okay cool those guys were

you're making okay cool those guys were

you're making okay cool those guys were great together

great together

great together we basically hear them just laughing

we basically hear them just laughing

we basically hear them just laughing down at the end of the hallway we had an

down at the end of the hallway we had an

down at the end of the hallway we had an office in Ferndale Michigan former

office in Ferndale Michigan former

office in Ferndale Michigan former dentist's office and we knew that these

dentist's office and we knew that these

dentist's office and we knew that these guys got so distracted so easily we had

guys got so distracted so easily we had

guys got so distracted so easily we had to sequester them and try and keep the

to sequester them and try and keep the

to sequester them and try and keep the gags away and the props and the sight

gags away and the props and the sight

gags away and the props and the sight gags and it didn't matter we would just

gags and it didn't matter we would just

gags and it didn't matter we would just hear laughter laughter laughter we like

hear laughter laughter laughter we like

hear laughter laughter laughter we like dropped ever and

dropped ever and

dropped ever and we're like this writing are they writing

we're like this writing are they writing

we're like this writing are they writing anything it just took the script into an

anything it just took the script into an

anything it just took the script into an inventive place and Scott also has a

inventive place and Scott also has a

inventive place and Scott also has a very demented sense of humor and very

very demented sense of humor and very

very demented sense of humor and very gaggy sense of humor so you get this

gaggy sense of humor so you get this

gaggy sense of humor so you get this combination of raw horror and raw gags

the tricky thing with you know sequels

the tricky thing with you know sequels that were never planned

that were never planned

that were never planned they were never planned so you don't

they were never planned so you don't

they were never planned so you don't know how to tie these together you know

know how to tie these together you know

know how to tie these together you know we didn't know we were gonna do another

we didn't know we were gonna do another

we didn't know we were gonna do another Evil Dead had no idea whatsoever

Evil Dead had no idea whatsoever

Evil Dead had no idea whatsoever see the problem with two was everybody's

see the problem with two was everybody's

see the problem with two was everybody's dead in the first one so how do you get

dead in the first one so how do you get

dead in the first one so how do you get them back how do you get another group

them back how do you get another group

them back how do you get another group of people back you know so I think we

of people back you know so I think we

of people back you know so I think we have to resurrect ash even though he's

have to resurrect ash even though he's

have to resurrect ash even though he's clearly he's killed in the first day of

clearly he's killed in the first day of

clearly he's killed in the first day of it he's dead the evil entity got him so

it he's dead the evil entity got him so

it he's dead the evil entity got him so we decided he'd just beat him up a

we decided he'd just beat him up a

we decided he'd just beat him up a little bit but we couldn't reuse the

little bit but we couldn't reuse the

little bit but we couldn't reuse the footage so that was really frustrating

footage so that was really frustrating

footage so that was really frustrating to do a recap on that so it was

to do a recap on that so it was

to do a recap on that so it was reinvigorated in that sense we couldn't

reinvigorated in that sense we couldn't

reinvigorated in that sense we couldn't get the rights to the footage from Evil

get the rights to the footage from Evil

get the rights to the footage from Evil Dead for you led to it was two different

Dead for you led to it was two different

Dead for you led to it was two different companies and they were like well let's

companies and they were like well let's

companies and they were like well let's just pretend that the first one didn't

just pretend that the first one didn't

just pretend that the first one didn't happen the funny thing is that because

happen the funny thing is that because

happen the funny thing is that because of the way the recap when people thought

of the way the recap when people thought

of the way the recap when people thought that Ash was stupid enough to go back to

that Ash was stupid enough to go back to

that Ash was stupid enough to go back to the cabin with new friends there were

the cabin with new friends there were

the cabin with new friends there were budget considerations enix I was the one

budget considerations enix I was the one

budget considerations enix I was the one that wanted to take it out of the cabin

that wanted to take it out of the cabin

that wanted to take it out of the cabin just to be different you know

just to be different you know

just to be different you know anyway things change and everything but

anyway things change and everything but

anyway things change and everything but you know you try to do it but Rob and

you know you try to do it but Rob and

you know you try to do it but Rob and Sam I'm a Robin Bruce or like keep it in

Sam I'm a Robin Bruce or like keep it in

Sam I'm a Robin Bruce or like keep it in the house but we we had to figure it out

the house but we we had to figure it out

the house but we we had to figure it out we cast people right away we wanted to

we cast people right away we wanted to

we cast people right away we wanted to shoot somewhere that was warm we found a

shoot somewhere that was warm we found a

shoot somewhere that was warm we found a place that was really warm Wadesboro of

place that was really warm Wadesboro of

place that was really warm Wadesboro of North Carolina as a year before the

North Carolina as a year before the

North Carolina as a year before the color purple had been there so there a

color purple had been there so there a

color purple had been there so there a better president for a movie shot so

better president for a movie shot so

better president for a movie shot so that's why we ended up down there and we

that's why we ended up down there and we

that's why we ended up down there and we had to deal with the small-town politics

had to deal with the small-town politics

had to deal with the small-town politics of rural America you know you just tell

of rural America you know you just tell

of rural America you know you just tell with Spielberg that's the Cadillac we

with Spielberg that's the Cadillac we

with Spielberg that's the Cadillac we were like a Chevy Vega like a Chevy Nova

were like a Chevy Vega like a Chevy Nova

were like a Chevy Vega like a Chevy Nova so we can't pay this much and there so

so we can't pay this much and there so

so we can't pay this much and there so we had to make all kinds of deal

we had to make all kinds of deal

we had to make all kinds of deal of that and then we found out that

of that and then we found out that

of that and then we found out that before we started shooting the movie it

before we started shooting the movie it

before we started shooting the movie it was already in profit because they had

was already in profit because they had

was already in profit because they had made a sale to HBO and they sold the

made a sale to HBO and they sold the

made a sale to HBO and they sold the foreign where Rob Shepherd came on the

foreign where Rob Shepherd came on the

foreign where Rob Shepherd came on the set specifically one day and went well

set specifically one day and went well

set specifically one day and went well we're in profit it put us beyond the

we're in profit it put us beyond the

we're in profit it put us beyond the budget that we had and we really wanted

budget that we had and we really wanted

budget that we had and we really wanted to fix the production problems that we

to fix the production problems that we

to fix the production problems that we had on crime and then I think after the

had on crime and then I think after the

had on crime and then I think after the second one did well I'm sure there were

second one did well I'm sure there were

second one did well I'm sure there were other miserable failures and we decided

other miserable failures and we decided

other miserable failures and we decided to go to army of darkness

hi Bruce say hello this is this is Evil

hi Bruce say hello this is this is Evil Dead 2 guys flashback you bastard I've

Dead 2 guys flashback you bastard I've

Dead 2 guys flashback you bastard I've been doing somewhere I think was

been doing somewhere I think was

been doing somewhere I think was Gambel's a great guy

Gambel's a great guy

Gambel's a great guy you know I think he's a really fantastic

you know I think he's a really fantastic

you know I think he's a really fantastic actor he totally delivers every time he

actor he totally delivers every time he

actor he totally delivers every time he you know he does something and he's just

you know he does something and he's just

you know he does something and he's just a really good person you know very

a really good person you know very

a really good person you know very generous very very sweet and really

generous very very sweet and really

generous very very sweet and really really really funny I've had the

really really funny I've had the

really really funny I've had the opportunity to work with Bruce camera

opportunity to work with Bruce camera

opportunity to work with Bruce camera over the years on other projects as well

over the years on other projects as well

over the years on other projects as well that was the first time I've worked with

that was the first time I've worked with

that was the first time I've worked with him on Evil Dead 2 Sam I said that the

him on Evil Dead 2 Sam I said that the

him on Evil Dead 2 Sam I said that the hero had to be punished he had to get it

hero had to be punished he had to get it

hero had to be punished he had to get it go through hell and like die hard you

go through hell and like die hard you

go through hell and like die hard you know what makes it great as it gets the

know what makes it great as it gets the

know what makes it great as it gets the crap kicked out of him through the whole

crap kicked out of him through the whole

crap kicked out of him through the whole movie

movie

movie Bruce was game for anything that Sam

Bruce was game for anything that Sam

Bruce was game for anything that Sam could throw at him and Sam threw

could throw at him and Sam threw

could throw at him and Sam threw everything at anything as they were

everything at anything as they were

everything at anything as they were growing up together I don't know if

growing up together I don't know if

growing up together I don't know if maybe Bruce dated somebody that Sam

maybe Bruce dated somebody that Sam

maybe Bruce dated somebody that Sam liked but Sam has had it out for him

liked but Sam has had it out for him

liked but Sam has had it out for him creatively you know in a very

creatively you know in a very

creatively you know in a very mischievous way any opportunity to

mischievous way any opportunity to

mischievous way any opportunity to torture Bruce and would take within a

torture Bruce and would take within a

torture Bruce and would take within a second

Sam would always like call him you know

Sam would always like call him you know yeah big baby and you know and I can't

yeah big baby and you know and I can't

yeah big baby and you know and I can't take it all you're too hot huh Bruce is

take it all you're too hot huh Bruce is

take it all you're too hot huh Bruce is an inspiring guy to work with because

an inspiring guy to work with because

an inspiring guy to work with because you're watching him get annihilated

you're watching him get annihilated

you're watching him get annihilated through any amount of physical and

through any amount of physical and

through any amount of physical and mental breakdowns and you know you feel

mental breakdowns and you know you feel

mental breakdowns and you know you feel like you want to gripe about something

like you want to gripe about something

like you want to gripe about something you know he's sergeant Rock who's taking

you know he's sergeant Rock who's taking

you know he's sergeant Rock who's taking bullets in his face you know well I

bullets in his face you know well I

bullets in his face you know well I guess cuz I got a hangnail I probably

guess cuz I got a hangnail I probably

guess cuz I got a hangnail I probably should shut up so the stunt double was

should shut up so the stunt double was

should shut up so the stunt double was not used very much John Cocina was my

not used very much John Cocina was my

not used very much John Cocina was my stunt guy very good stunt guy who

stunt guy very good stunt guy who

stunt guy very good stunt guy who doubled me for about 15 years on Brisco

doubled me for about 15 years on Brisco

doubled me for about 15 years on Brisco County jr. stuff like that and he would

County jr. stuff like that and he would

County jr. stuff like that and he would do things like a stair fall so I'm like

do things like a stair fall so I'm like

do things like a stair fall so I'm like no it's probably not a good idea to go

no it's probably not a good idea to go

no it's probably not a good idea to go headfirst on that I think I'm gonna let

headfirst on that I think I'm gonna let

headfirst on that I think I'm gonna let John do that and I did most of

John do that and I did most of

John do that and I did most of everything else in the movie I remember

everything else in the movie I remember

everything else in the movie I remember shooting the scene in the kitchen where

shooting the scene in the kitchen where

shooting the scene in the kitchen where Bruce is breaking the dishes over his

Bruce is breaking the dishes over his

Bruce is breaking the dishes over his head and if you don't hand and flips

head and if you don't hand and flips

head and if you don't hand and flips himself and it was the most amazing

himself and it was the most amazing

himself and it was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen

thing I'd ever seen

thing I'd ever seen he'd do it over and over again and we're

he'd do it over and over again and we're

he'd do it over and over again and we're like going he's gonna get hurt he's

like going he's gonna get hurt he's

like going he's gonna get hurt he's gonna get hurt you know he just but he

gonna get hurt you know he just but he

gonna get hurt you know he just but he just enjoyed it I mean he had a great

just enjoyed it I mean he had a great

just enjoyed it I mean he had a great time doing it it was definitely tortured

time doing it it was definitely tortured

time doing it it was definitely tortured he was incredibly disciplined though he

he was incredibly disciplined though he

he was incredibly disciplined though he would be up every morning he pumped iron

would be up every morning he pumped iron

would be up every morning he pumped iron before the shoot because he kept himself

before the shoot because he kept himself

before the shoot because he kept himself an impeccable shape he was a Puritan he

an impeccable shape he was a Puritan he

an impeccable shape he was a Puritan he had a Spartan diet drank a lot of water

had a Spartan diet drank a lot of water

had a Spartan diet drank a lot of water of course he looked like a million bucks

of course he looked like a million bucks

of course he looked like a million bucks and he was a ham it was just a ham and

and he was a ham it was just a ham and

and he was a ham it was just a ham and he was good to work off of he had a lot

he was good to work off of he had a lot

he was good to work off of he had a lot of energy

I think Sam tormented Ted almost a

I think Sam tormented Ted almost a little bit more literally was like okay

little bit more literally was like okay

little bit more literally was like okay you're my little brother you're gonna be

you're my little brother you're gonna be

you're my little brother you're gonna be in this movie

in this movie

in this movie so you're just gonna do whatever myself

so you're just gonna do whatever myself

so you're just gonna do whatever myself when evil did two came out I was

when evil did two came out I was

when evil did two came out I was definitely aware of all of the demands

definitely aware of all of the demands

definitely aware of all of the demands that were required of me to be in the

that were required of me to be in the

that were required of me to be in the suit to be hung by a harness to be blind

suit to be hung by a harness to be blind

suit to be hung by a harness to be blind and I didn't care because I was 20 and

and I didn't care because I was 20 and

and I didn't care because I was 20 and when you're 20 you know you can have

when you're 20 you know you can have

when you're 20 you know you can have people throw golf balls at your face you

people throw golf balls at your face you

people throw golf balls at your face you know from a driving range and it really

know from a driving range and it really

know from a driving range and it really doesn't matter you'll be happy to have

doesn't matter you'll be happy to have

doesn't matter you'll be happy to have that happen to you Sam was looking for

that happen to you Sam was looking for

that happen to you Sam was looking for what he called a southern Wildcat and

what he called a southern Wildcat and

what he called a southern Wildcat and I'm from the south and so this agent

I'm from the south and so this agent

I'm from the south and so this agent said would you like to read said sure

said would you like to read said sure

said would you like to read said sure Sam read me for the part and he said

Sam read me for the part and he said

Sam read me for the part and he said great I love you so I said well while

great I love you so I said well while

great I love you so I said well while I'm here can I lead for the lead and he

I'm here can I lead for the lead and he

I'm here can I lead for the lead and he said no I really like you know like you

said no I really like you know like you

said no I really like you know like you for this part I think you're perfect

for this part I think you're perfect

for this part I think you're perfect I said come on I'm here let me read so

I said come on I'm here let me read so

I said come on I'm here let me read so he gave me the sides Franny and I read

he gave me the sides Franny and I read

he gave me the sides Franny and I read and he went hmm I like that and then he

and he went hmm I like that and then he

and he went hmm I like that and then he said I want to hear you scream I said oh

said I want to hear you scream I said oh

said I want to hear you scream I said oh yeah and I just let it rip

I don't I don't know that Sara knew what

I don't I don't know that Sara knew what she was getting into I don't know that

she was getting into I don't know that

she was getting into I don't know that anybody knew what they were getting into

anybody knew what they were getting into

anybody knew what they were getting into but she was picked because she had a

but she was picked because she had a

but she was picked because she had a great scream very piercing scream and

great scream very piercing scream and

great scream very piercing scream and she seemed game I like the fact that she

she seemed game I like the fact that she

she seemed game I like the fact that she was a professional woman you know in a

was a professional woman you know in a

was a professional woman you know in a horror movie that's a rare commodity and

horror movie that's a rare commodity and

horror movie that's a rare commodity and the way I conceptualized her as I

the way I conceptualized her as I

the way I conceptualized her as I thought of her is like in some ways the

thought of her is like in some ways the

thought of her is like in some ways the ultimate Girl Scout because she was that

ultimate Girl Scout because she was that

ultimate Girl Scout because she was that but sort of the interior track I had was

but sort of the interior track I had was

but sort of the interior track I had was that I was the son my father never had

that I was the son my father never had

that I was the son my father never had and so I really had to come through for

and so I really had to come through for

and so I really had to come through for him and that's how I played it my my

him and that's how I played it my my

him and that's how I played it my my oldest daughter then was just 18 months

oldest daughter then was just 18 months

oldest daughter then was just 18 months old

old

old and my husband was a professor so they

and my husband was a professor so they

and my husband was a professor so they could come and be with me during the

could come and be with me during the

could come and be with me during the shoot it was in the summer time and it

shoot it was in the summer time and it

shoot it was in the summer time and it was nine weeks she had young children at

was nine weeks she had young children at

was nine weeks she had young children at the time I had young children and it was

the time I had young children and it was

the time I had young children and it was funny to watch was the difference of how

funny to watch was the difference of how

funny to watch was the difference of how we dealt with our kids making a movie

we dealt with our kids making a movie

we dealt with our kids making a movie like that because what I told my

like that because what I told my

like that because what I told my daughter Rebecca who was young at the

daughter Rebecca who was young at the

daughter Rebecca who was young at the time was I said look Ted's in a big pink

time was I said look Ted's in a big pink

time was I said look Ted's in a big pink suit and here comes Ted look see the pig

suit and here comes Ted look see the pig

suit and here comes Ted look see the pig suit saraburi he didn't really lay the

suit saraburi he didn't really lay the

suit saraburi he didn't really lay the groundwork for her kids her kids saw Ted

groundwork for her kids her kids saw Ted

groundwork for her kids her kids saw Ted Raimi and freaked out they had to remove

Raimi and freaked out they had to remove

Raimi and freaked out they had to remove the two from each other yeah it was just

the two from each other yeah it was just

the two from each other yeah it was just a disaster Sarah had some like really

a disaster Sarah had some like really

a disaster Sarah had some like really emotional horror movie scenes so she was

emotional horror movie scenes so she was

emotional horror movie scenes so she was really sweet to work with and I think

really sweet to work with and I think

really sweet to work with and I think she spent a lot of her time like

she spent a lot of her time like

she spent a lot of her time like preparing for this next big moment where

preparing for this next big moment where

preparing for this next big moment where she had to emo in some way and now

she'd had some pretty severe knee

she'd had some pretty severe knee injuries from her dancing career and I

injuries from her dancing career and I

injuries from her dancing career and I remember just feeling so horrible for

remember just feeling so horrible for

remember just feeling so horrible for her because you could see this big scars

her because you could see this big scars

her because you could see this big scars on her legs and she had to drag my big

on her legs and she had to drag my big

on her legs and she had to drag my big fat heavy butt all the way across that

fat heavy butt all the way across that

fat heavy butt all the way across that cabin with the dagger sticking out of my

cabin with the dagger sticking out of my

cabin with the dagger sticking out of my chest

chest

chest I remember seventeen takes of that and

I remember seventeen takes of that and

I remember seventeen takes of that and he was a heavy guy at the time I

he was a heavy guy at the time I

he was a heavy guy at the time I probably I weighed over 200 pounds I had

probably I weighed over 200 pounds I had

probably I weighed over 200 pounds I had worked myself up into such a place and

worked myself up into such a place and

worked myself up into such a place and then with each take got more and more

then with each take got more and more

then with each take got more and more and more you know intense for me but it

and more you know intense for me but it

and more you know intense for me but it was exhausting I thought so bad for me

was exhausting I thought so bad for me

was exhausting I thought so bad for me very good actress fun to work with very

very good actress fun to work with very

very good actress fun to work with very giving action

girl Dani Hicks has this blue-collar

girl Dani Hicks has this blue-collar vibe like very few actors can pull off

vibe like very few actors can pull off

vibe like very few actors can pull off an evil that too is so much fun to watch

an evil that too is so much fun to watch

an evil that too is so much fun to watch I love to plan Jake and I'll get to just

I love to plan Jake and I'll get to just

I love to plan Jake and I'll get to just because it just gave me a chance well

because it just gave me a chance well

because it just gave me a chance well first of all it was my first feature

first of all it was my first feature

first of all it was my first feature film and I got to be incredibly

film and I got to be incredibly

film and I got to be incredibly unattractive which is always fun to ugly

unattractive which is always fun to ugly

unattractive which is always fun to ugly up part of the reason I got the role

up part of the reason I got the role

up part of the reason I got the role it's been I auditioned for it

it's been I auditioned for it

it's been I auditioned for it I remember Sam Raimi looking at me and

I remember Sam Raimi looking at me and

I remember Sam Raimi looking at me and saying I can't believe an actor without

saying I can't believe an actor without

saying I can't believe an actor without an ego there because I looked so awful I

an ego there because I looked so awful I

an ego there because I looked so awful I gotten up that morning and went outside

gotten up that morning and went outside

gotten up that morning and went outside and literally combed my hair with grease

and literally combed my hair with grease

and literally combed my hair with grease from the engine compartment he came into

from the engine compartment he came into

from the engine compartment he came into the audition and he was ok but then he

the audition and he was ok but then he

the audition and he was ok but then he goes well do you want to see without my

goes well do you want to see without my

goes well do you want to see without my teeth and we were like what

teeth and we were like what

teeth and we were like what he's a sweep he pulled out a whole

he's a sweep he pulled out a whole

he's a sweep he pulled out a whole bridge at the front of his teeth and

bridge at the front of his teeth and

bridge at the front of his teeth and four teeth just disappeared we're like

four teeth just disappeared we're like

four teeth just disappeared we're like that's perfect you know and so he he

that's perfect you know and so he he

that's perfect you know and so he he basically got the part on the spot and

basically got the part on the spot and

basically got the part on the spot and Danny's just one of these great bigger

Danny's just one of these great bigger

Danny's just one of these great bigger than life characters who's got crazies

than life characters who's got crazies

than life characters who's got crazies near-death stories action the the thing

near-death stories action the the thing

near-death stories action the the thing that I came closest to not surviving is

that I came closest to not surviving is

that I came closest to not surviving is my death scene when Henrietta choose me

my death scene when Henrietta choose me

my death scene when Henrietta choose me up down in the in there in the cellar

up down in the in there in the cellar

up down in the in there in the cellar because they pumped 55 gallons of fake

because they pumped 55 gallons of fake

because they pumped 55 gallons of fake blood and something like three and a

blood and something like three and a

blood and something like three and a half seconds and I was hanging upside

half seconds and I was hanging upside

half seconds and I was hanging upside down from a trapeze and on the first

down from a trapeze and on the first

down from a trapeze and on the first take the hose wasn't positioned and

take the hose wasn't positioned and

take the hose wasn't positioned and instead of squirting out the door it hit

instead of squirting out the door it hit

instead of squirting out the door it hit the door and came right back in my face

the door and came right back in my face

the door and came right back in my face so within three and half seconds I had

so within three and half seconds I had

so within three and half seconds I had 55 gallons of blood forced up my nose so

55 gallons of blood forced up my nose so

55 gallons of blood forced up my nose so I almost choked to death and then I

I almost choked to death and then I

I almost choked to death and then I first ran to do it again his performance

first ran to do it again his performance

first ran to do it again his performance is so powerful in that movie it's really

is so powerful in that movie it's really

is so powerful in that movie it's really something to see I mean I know I sound

something to see I mean I know I sound

something to see I mean I know I sound like I'm talking about some Academy

like I'm talking about some Academy

like I'm talking about some Academy Award guy but if there was an Academy

Award guy but if there was an Academy

Award guy but if there was an Academy Award you know four crazy hillbillies

Award you know four crazy hillbillies

Award you know four crazy hillbillies he'd be the winner

he'd be the winner

he'd be the winner what hands down I mean I don't know how

what hands down I mean I don't know how

what hands down I mean I don't know how much movie acting he had done but he was

much movie acting he had done but he was

much movie acting he had done but he was really an old

really an old

really an old Pro he was in character he was ready for

Pro he was in character he was ready for

Pro he was in character he was ready for every shot he was inventive with what he

every shot he was inventive with what he

every shot he was inventive with what he wanted to do you know he really worked

wanted to do you know he really worked

wanted to do you know he really worked every shot he was fabulous to work with

every shot he was fabulous to work with

every shot he was fabulous to work with Danny and I became buddies in the movie

Danny and I became buddies in the movie

Danny and I became buddies in the movie I've seen him a long time won't know

I've seen him a long time won't know

I've seen him a long time won't know what he's doing but we became friends in

what he's doing but we became friends in

what he's doing but we became friends in the movie and we had our no shortage of

the movie and we had our no shortage of

the movie and we had our no shortage of breweries together and chatted together

breweries together and chatted together

breweries together and chatted together and really got a sense of what this was

and really got a sense of what this was

and really got a sense of what this was gonna be about so he was a really really

gonna be about so he was a really really

gonna be about so he was a really really cool guy Danny Hicks had a great time

cool guy Danny Hicks had a great time

cool guy Danny Hicks had a great time because he's just kind of that kind of

because he's just kind of that kind of

because he's just kind of that kind of guy he's like sure beats working for

guy he's like sure beats working for

guy he's like sure beats working for 11:00 you know doing a feature film

11:00 you know doing a feature film

11:00 you know doing a feature film that's what I decided that's what I want

that's what I decided that's what I want

that's what I decided that's what I want to do I want to do feature those I don't

to do I want to do feature those I don't

to do I want to do feature those I don't want to do anything else

want to do anything else

want to do anything else and that's because of the whole

and that's because of the whole

and that's because of the whole experience what's evil that you know

experience what's evil that you know

experience what's evil that you know going to and he's just stayed a good

going to and he's just stayed a good

going to and he's just stayed a good friend and that he's been in just about

friend and that he's been in just about

friend and that he's been in just about every one of our movies ever since Bobby

every one of our movies ever since Bobby

every one of our movies ever since Bobby Joe was indeed one of the first

Joe was indeed one of the first

Joe was indeed one of the first characters I played it was actually the

characters I played it was actually the

characters I played it was actually the first movie that I've done and pretty

first movie that I've done and pretty

first movie that I've done and pretty much the only feature film I've ever

much the only feature film I've ever

much the only feature film I've ever done I had just started working with a

done I had just started working with a

done I had just started working with a theatrical agent who submitted me for

theatrical agent who submitted me for

theatrical agent who submitted me for this and I thought a horror film I know

this and I thought a horror film I know

this and I thought a horror film I know you know Jamie Lee Curtis started her

you know Jamie Lee Curtis started her

you know Jamie Lee Curtis started her career there make but that would be

career there make but that would be

career there make but that would be great thinking I wasn't gonna get it

great thinking I wasn't gonna get it

great thinking I wasn't gonna get it Cassie had to be she had to eat the

Cassie had to be she had to eat the

Cassie had to be she had to eat the eyeball fly ball you know of him she got

eyeball fly ball you know of him she got

eyeball fly ball you know of him she got her same introduction the Sam Raimi like

her same introduction the Sam Raimi like

her same introduction the Sam Raimi like you want me to do what Cassie I flew to

you want me to do what Cassie I flew to

you want me to do what Cassie I flew to North Carolina with I think I think

North Carolina with I think I think

North Carolina with I think I think we're both living in LA both got the job

we're both living in LA both got the job

we're both living in LA both got the job and I think we were kindred spirits in a

and I think we were kindred spirits in a

and I think we were kindred spirits in a way both coming what is this what are we

way both coming what is this what are we

way both coming what is this what are we getting ourselves into there what do you

getting ourselves into there what do you

getting ourselves into there what do you think this is all about what is this

think this is all about what is this

think this is all about what is this movie it reads kind of weird have you

movie it reads kind of weird have you

movie it reads kind of weird have you read the script have you read this book

read the script have you read this book

read the script have you read this book so we had a long chat on the way there

so we had a long chat on the way there

so we had a long chat on the way there and we spent some time together she was

and we spent some time together she was

and we spent some time together she was a really sweet and I could tell she was

a really sweet and I could tell she was

a really sweet and I could tell she was driven she was seem to be a driven

driven she was seem to be a driven

driven she was seem to be a driven actress and somebody who wish

actress and somebody who wish

actress and somebody who wish I knew that this was gonna be a really

I knew that this was gonna be a really

I knew that this was gonna be a really wonderful opportunity for me to really

wonderful opportunity for me to really

wonderful opportunity for me to really have the whole movie experience I love

have the whole movie experience I love

have the whole movie experience I love to be on the set try to learn stuff so

to be on the set try to learn stuff so

to be on the set try to learn stuff so back when the house became possessed and

back when the house became possessed and

back when the house became possessed and everybody was laughing I said I'll lay

everybody was laughing I said I'll lay

everybody was laughing I said I'll lay behind the sofa and move the cushions oh

behind the sofa and move the cushions oh

behind the sofa and move the cushions oh I did that Cassie and I were sort of you

I did that Cassie and I were sort of you

I did that Cassie and I were sort of you know obviously cast to sort of spar with

know obviously cast to sort of spar with

know obviously cast to sort of spar with each other in the movie and I tried very

each other in the movie and I tried very

each other in the movie and I tried very much to stay as much in character as I

much to stay as much in character as I

much to stay as much in character as I could on the set and so we kind of kept

could on the set and so we kind of kept

could on the set and so we kind of kept our distance from each other on the set

our distance from each other on the set

our distance from each other on the set and she was much lighter she was very

and she was much lighter she was very

and she was much lighter she was very bubbly and lied and kind of true to the

bubbly and lied and kind of true to the

bubbly and lied and kind of true to the character in that way just a true

character in that way just a true

character in that way just a true sweetheart and she probably helped me

sweetheart and she probably helped me

sweetheart and she probably helped me with the accent a little bit because

with the accent a little bit because

with the accent a little bit because she's a nice girl

she's a nice girl

she's a nice girl but I remember thinking it says I have

but I remember thinking it says I have

but I remember thinking it says I have to chew tobacco like really okay so what

to chew tobacco like really okay so what

to chew tobacco like really okay so what they did is they put a brownie so when

they did is they put a brownie so when

they did is they put a brownie so when you spit it still had that brown icky

you spit it still had that brown icky

you spit it still had that brown icky look she's just a kind of a good girl

look she's just a kind of a good girl

look she's just a kind of a good girl she didn't really fit in that at whole

she didn't really fit in that at whole

she didn't really fit in that at whole environment I think she she was ready

environment I think she she was ready

environment I think she she was ready for soap operas by the time we were done

for soap operas by the time we were done

for soap operas by the time we were done she went literally from Evil Dead two to

she went literally from Evil Dead two to

she went literally from Evil Dead two to one life to live I mean what a crazy

one life to live I mean what a crazy

one life to live I mean what a crazy transition and I've been working ever

transition and I've been working ever

transition and I've been working ever since so thank you

I had not seen the first eel dead so I

I had not seen the first eel dead so I wasn't aware of what evil did to was all

wasn't aware of what evil did to was all

wasn't aware of what evil did to was all about so the thing for me about this

about so the thing for me about this

about so the thing for me about this movie was the audition because when you

movie was the audition because when you

movie was the audition because when you go to an audition as an actor you don't

go to an audition as an actor you don't

go to an audition as an actor you don't get the entire script you get besides

get the entire script you get besides

get the entire script you get besides you get a couple of pages and there was

you get a couple of pages and there was

you get a couple of pages and there was a scene I think at the cabin and then he

a scene I think at the cabin and then he

a scene I think at the cabin and then he turns into a Kundera Indian and I had

turns into a Kundera Indian and I had

turns into a Kundera Indian and I had not ever experienced before

not ever experienced before

not ever experienced before okay let's go back to our Stanislavski

okay let's go back to our Stanislavski

okay let's go back to our Stanislavski training here a little bit go back to

training here a little bit go back to

training here a little bit go back to our sense memory here candarian demon

our sense memory here candarian demon

our sense memory here candarian demon and i had to figure out what the hell to

and i had to figure out what the hell to

and i had to figure out what the hell to do with this at this audition all I

do with this at this audition all I

do with this at this audition all I remember is that I think to this day I

remember is that I think to this day I

remember is that I think to this day I think I recall making ugliest face in

think I recall making ugliest face in

think I recall making ugliest face in the history of time the most demonic

the history of time the most demonic

the history of time the most demonic face I've ever made in my life and just

face I've ever made in my life and just

face I've ever made in my life and just turned into the demon I just I don't

turned into the demon I just I don't

turned into the demon I just I don't know from when I was a kid I I had I

know from when I was a kid I I had I

know from when I was a kid I I had I browse that could go up higher than

browse that could go up higher than

browse that could go up higher than Nicholson's when I finally got the call

Nicholson's when I finally got the call

Nicholson's when I finally got the call from the agent hell did you do they want

from the agent hell did you do they want

from the agent hell did you do they want to see you again for the demon role or

to see you again for the demon role or

to see you again for the demon role or something like that when I met the guys

something like that when I met the guys

something like that when I met the guys who actually did the makeup for it

who actually did the makeup for it

who actually did the makeup for it they said basically dude that was pretty

they said basically dude that was pretty

they said basically dude that was pretty cool we're gonna model evil Ed's makeup

cool we're gonna model evil Ed's makeup

cool we're gonna model evil Ed's makeup after that guy that you had becoming a

after that guy that you had becoming a

after that guy that you had becoming a vision what I remember the most about

vision what I remember the most about

vision what I remember the most about Rick is he was a very astute businessman

Rick is he was a very astute businessman

Rick is he was a very astute businessman and he said to me after the shoot was

and he said to me after the shoot was

and he said to me after the shoot was over Sara you should take every dime

over Sara you should take every dime

over Sara you should take every dime you've made on this film and it wasn't a

you've made on this film and it wasn't a

you've made on this film and it wasn't a lot but take every dime and hire a PR

lot but take every dime and hire a PR

lot but take every dime and hire a PR person and just blitz yourself with PR

person and just blitz yourself with PR

person and just blitz yourself with PR it was so smart so I remember him being

it was so smart so I remember him being

it was so smart so I remember him being very canny in that way oh he was great

very canny in that way oh he was great

very canny in that way oh he was great he's been on like the Home Shopping

he's been on like the Home Shopping

he's been on like the Home Shopping Network ever since man that guy's

Network ever since man that guy's

Network ever since man that guy's everywhere I don't know and saraberry

everywhere I don't know and saraberry

everywhere I don't know and saraberry oh all those people are awesome I mean

oh all those people are awesome I mean

oh all those people are awesome I mean really it's just like it was just really

really it's just like it was just really

really it's just like it was just really a cool time terrific actors a lot of fun

a cool time terrific actors a lot of fun

a cool time terrific actors a lot of fun and so that was our motley crew they

and so that was our motley crew they

and so that was our motley crew they were pretty good troopers I'm not

were pretty good troopers I'm not

were pretty good troopers I'm not mistaken there was a little rider in the

mistaken there was a little rider in the

mistaken there was a little rider in the contract Tim I was trying to figure out

contract Tim I was trying to figure out

contract Tim I was trying to figure out and it said something to the

and it said something to the

and it said something to the if you fall break your neck lose an eye

if you fall break your neck lose an eye

if you fall break your neck lose an eye or sever an arm you're on your own it

or sever an arm you're on your own it

or sever an arm you're on your own it turned out to be eventful yes a lot of

turned out to be eventful yes a lot of

turned out to be eventful yes a lot of us we actually beat each other up pretty

us we actually beat each other up pretty

us we actually beat each other up pretty good nutshell

good nutshell

good nutshell Ted Brooklyn hoes he had to reach up and

Ted Brooklyn hoes he had to reach up and

Ted Brooklyn hoes he had to reach up and grab my face and he misjudged it by

grab my face and he misjudged it by

grab my face and he misjudged it by about three inches so when he reached up

about three inches so when he reached up

about three inches so when he reached up to grab me snap with the nose when I

to grab me snap with the nose when I

to grab me snap with the nose when I attack firs Campbell I knock him down

attack firs Campbell I knock him down

attack firs Campbell I knock him down and then hit him with both of my fists

and then hit him with both of my fists

and then hit him with both of my fists across his face and I slipped and

across his face and I slipped and

across his face and I slipped and dropped down about an inch I knocked off

dropped down about an inch I knocked off

dropped down about an inch I knocked off his front teeth loose but they actually

his front teeth loose but they actually

his front teeth loose but they actually ended up using that tape they look real

ended up using that tape they look real

ended up using that tape they look real because it was everybody just wanted to

because it was everybody just wanted to

because it was everybody just wanted to do the best that they could but we were

do the best that they could but we were

do the best that they could but we were young and green and Sam was very patient

young and green and Sam was very patient

young and green and Sam was very patient it also was like really being in the

it also was like really being in the

it also was like really being in the trenches I mean you had to act almost

trenches I mean you had to act almost

trenches I mean you had to act almost like being in warfare and so I felt like

like being in warfare and so I felt like

like being in warfare and so I felt like I learned so much in the process sort of

I learned so much in the process sort of

I learned so much in the process sort of felt like if I could do that film I

felt like if I could do that film I

felt like if I could do that film I could do any film

when we made the first Evil Dead it was

when we made the first Evil Dead it was primitive so they were putting plaster

primitive so they were putting plaster

primitive so they were putting plaster Paris on actors faces pulling out

Paris on actors faces pulling out

Paris on actors faces pulling out eyelashes because they hadn't put

eyelashes because they hadn't put

eyelashes because they hadn't put vaseline on their I mean we did

vaseline on their I mean we did

vaseline on their I mean we did everything wrong but by the time evil

everything wrong but by the time evil

everything wrong but by the time evil that two came around that techniques

that two came around that techniques

that two came around that techniques were better I was just blown away by

were better I was just blown away by

were better I was just blown away by Evil Dead and when I read that they're

Evil Dead and when I read that they're

Evil Dead and when I read that they're gonna do a sequel I made definite plans

gonna do a sequel I made definite plans

gonna do a sequel I made definite plans of how to get on board I didn't know how

of how to get on board I didn't know how

of how to get on board I didn't know how to write too so I wrote to or when

to write too so I wrote to or when

to write too so I wrote to or when Shapiro the distributor of the film in

Shapiro the distributor of the film in

Shapiro the distributor of the film in New York and asked if he forward a

New York and asked if he forward a

New York and asked if he forward a letter to Sam Raimi for me he said of

letter to Sam Raimi for me he said of

letter to Sam Raimi for me he said of course so I wrote a letter I had

course so I wrote a letter I had

course so I wrote a letter I had finished from beyond and a nightmare

finished from beyond and a nightmare

finished from beyond and a nightmare non-street to and included a lot of

non-street to and included a lot of

non-street to and included a lot of photographs and sent it off with good

photographs and sent it off with good

photographs and sent it off with good faith I had about six months later I

faith I had about six months later I

faith I had about six months later I think the phone rang it was Sam and he

think the phone rang it was Sam and he

think the phone rang it was Sam and he called and said I want you to do Evil

called and said I want you to do Evil

called and said I want you to do Evil Dead to the K&B guys came to our

Dead to the K&B guys came to our

Dead to the K&B guys came to our attention through March Ostrom it was

attention through March Ostrom it was

attention through March Ostrom it was his shop and the kmb guys worked under

his shop and the kmb guys worked under

his shop and the kmb guys worked under him I had met Marc and worked on from

him I had met Marc and worked on from

him I had met Marc and worked on from beyond so we were really tight really

beyond so we were really tight really

beyond so we were really tight really good friends had a house with Bob

good friends had a house with Bob

good friends had a house with Bob Kurtzman and Howard Berger so we all

Kurtzman and Howard Berger so we all

Kurtzman and Howard Berger so we all lived together you know it was a bunch

lived together you know it was a bunch

lived together you know it was a bunch of guys with sleeping bags on the floor

of guys with sleeping bags on the floor

of guys with sleeping bags on the floor and all we did was sculpting the in the

and all we did was sculpting the in the

and all we did was sculpting the in the garage out back behind the shop every

garage out back behind the shop every

garage out back behind the shop every night after we got off work on our own

night after we got off work on our own

night after we got off work on our own stuff you know how to kind of improve

stuff you know how to kind of improve

stuff you know how to kind of improve our portfolios I had seen Evil Dead 1

our portfolios I had seen Evil Dead 1

our portfolios I had seen Evil Dead 1 and we were just talking about it and it

and we were just talking about it and it

and we were just talking about it and it was sort of like this fantasy like why

was sort of like this fantasy like why

was sort of like this fantasy like why would it be cool if we could work on

would it be cool if we could work on

would it be cool if we could work on Evil Dead 2 and then literally a couple

Evil Dead 2 and then literally a couple

Evil Dead 2 and then literally a couple years later I was working on it so

years later I was working on it so

years later I was working on it so ironically it was kind of a dream

ironically it was kind of a dream

ironically it was kind of a dream project we were very excited you know at

project we were very excited you know at

project we were very excited you know at the shop like wow Sam Raimi and it it it

the shop like wow Sam Raimi and it it it

the shop like wow Sam Raimi and it it it you know we get to meet Bruce Campbell

you know we get to meet Bruce Campbell

you know we get to meet Bruce Campbell and Rob Tapert and you know Ted Raimi

and Rob Tapert and you know Ted Raimi

and Rob Tapert and you know Ted Raimi and is just gonna be great you know Marv

and is just gonna be great you know Marv

and is just gonna be great you know Marv Cheston was a relatively small studio I

Cheston was a relatively small studio I

Cheston was a relatively small studio I mean he has small facility in South

mean he has small facility in South

mean he has small facility in South Pasadena my whole commitment to Evil

Pasadena my whole commitment to Evil

Pasadena my whole commitment to Evil Dead was six months pretty much seven

Dead was six months pretty much seven

Dead was six months pretty much seven days a week but our prep time was a

days a week but our prep time was a

days a week but our prep time was a solid 12 weeks just overwhelmed almost

solid 12 weeks just overwhelmed almost

solid 12 weeks just overwhelmed almost at the sheer number of makeup effects I

at the sheer number of makeup effects I

at the sheer number of makeup effects I think out of approximately 750 shots in

think out of approximately 750 shots in

think out of approximately 750 shots in the film there was about a hundred and

the film there was about a hundred and

the film there was about a hundred and five that were makeup effects something

five that were makeup effects something

five that were makeup effects something like that we started in March and they

like that we started in March and they

like that we started in March and they had done some sketches and some design

had done some sketches and some design

had done some sketches and some design stuff already

stuff already

stuff already and I sort of coordinated the show for

and I sort of coordinated the show for

and I sort of coordinated the show for mark this is evil dead tape one part one

mark this is evil dead tape one part one

mark this is evil dead tape one part one scene one action

scene one action

scene one action the crew was myself Shannon Shea Greg

the crew was myself Shannon Shea Greg

the crew was myself Shannon Shea Greg Nicotero Bob Kurtzman Mike terrific and

Nicotero Bob Kurtzman Mike terrific and

Nicotero Bob Kurtzman Mike terrific and Aaron Simms so it was a very small crew

Aaron Simms so it was a very small crew

Aaron Simms so it was a very small crew everybody did a little bit of everything

everybody did a little bit of everything

everybody did a little bit of everything you know we did everything from you know

you know we did everything from you know

you know we did everything from you know everybody designed something everybody

everybody designed something everybody

everybody designed something everybody basically sculpted you know didn't molds

basically sculpted you know didn't molds

basically sculpted you know didn't molds and casting and even foam latex

and casting and even foam latex

and casting and even foam latex you know everybody and in the shop would

you know everybody and in the shop would

you know everybody and in the shop would just have like their characters they

just have like their characters they

just have like their characters they were working on and just complete it

were working on and just complete it

were working on and just complete it from beginning to end

from beginning to end

from beginning to end excellent and Mark said what do you want

excellent and Mark said what do you want

excellent and Mark said what do you want to do and I said well I want to do all

to do and I said well I want to do all

to do and I said well I want to do all Bruce Campbell's makeups and he went

Bruce Campbell's makeups and he went

Bruce Campbell's makeups and he went okay that sounds great so I did all

okay that sounds great so I did all

okay that sounds great so I did all Bruce's makeups which were his evil his

Bruce's makeups which were his evil his

Bruce's makeups which were his evil his evil ash makeups and then his we called

evil ash makeups and then his we called

evil ash makeups and then his we called it the Jekyll Hyde makeup and the evil

it the Jekyll Hyde makeup and the evil

it the Jekyll Hyde makeup and the evil hand and just a ton of stuff and then we

hand and just a ton of stuff and then we

hand and just a ton of stuff and then we made dummies of a lot of the actors we

made dummies of a lot of the actors we

made dummies of a lot of the actors we did a couple head casts of Bruce and

did a couple head casts of Bruce and

did a couple head casts of Bruce and different expressions so that we could

different expressions so that we could

different expressions so that we could make different bodies of him to drag

make different bodies of him to drag

make different bodies of him to drag through the set and throw through

through the set and throw through

through the set and throw through puddles and the insanity that became

puddles and the insanity that became

puddles and the insanity that became Evil Dead - no no it's all top secret no

Evil Dead - no no it's all top secret no

Evil Dead - no no it's all top secret no no no no you can't - my first assignment

no no no you can't - my first assignment

no no no you can't - my first assignment was evil ed I mean I kind of knew that

was evil ed I mean I kind of knew that

was evil ed I mean I kind of knew that was what I was going to do and I

was what I was going to do and I

was what I was going to do and I remember mark saying oh they want this

remember mark saying oh they want this

remember mark saying oh they want this you know the woman to have a big mouth

you know the woman to have a big mouth

you know the woman to have a big mouth and of course the idea Fright Night came

and of course the idea Fright Night came

and of course the idea Fright Night came to mind the character Amy that steve

to mind the character Amy that steve

to mind the character Amy that steve johnson did

johnson did

johnson did the idea was just to have this kind of

the idea was just to have this kind of

the idea was just to have this kind of big shark shark mouth and and and the

big shark shark mouth and and and the

big shark shark mouth and and and the other thing I thought would be great was

other thing I thought would be great was

other thing I thought would be great was to be to actually have teeth on the roof

to be to actually have teeth on the roof

to be to actually have teeth on the roof of his mouth so it would be teeth teeth

of his mouth so it would be teeth teeth

of his mouth so it would be teeth teeth teeth teeth and then pee so really it

teeth teeth and then pee so really it

teeth teeth and then pee so really it would be very difficult to kind of see

would be very difficult to kind of see

would be very difficult to kind of see where the teeth ended Rick came in and

where the teeth ended Rick came in and

where the teeth ended Rick came in and we did a live cast of him and and I

we did a live cast of him and and I

we did a live cast of him and and I remember showing Rick the drawing and he

remember showing Rick the drawing and he

remember showing Rick the drawing and he was kind of like huh we started like

was kind of like huh we started like

was kind of like huh we started like holding leaves appliances and I remember

holding leaves appliances and I remember

holding leaves appliances and I remember giving him his teeth and saying okay you

giving him his teeth and saying okay you

giving him his teeth and saying okay you got to put these teeth in he looked at

got to put these teeth in he looked at

got to put these teeth in he looked at him and he put a man using okay so you

him and he put a man using okay so you

him and he put a man using okay so you don't have to close your mouth he'll be

don't have to close your mouth he'll be

don't have to close your mouth he'll be roaring the entire time yeah all right

roaring the entire time yeah all right

roaring the entire time yeah all right hahaha I was like I you'll be fine

hahaha I was like I you'll be fine

hahaha I was like I you'll be fine you'll be fine so he put him all in the

you'll be fine so he put him all in the

you'll be fine so he put him all in the makeup and we're doing all this and then

makeup and we're doing all this and then

makeup and we're doing all this and then the drool starts it was just you know it

the drool starts it was just you know it

the drool starts it was just you know it was just the nature of just having these

was just the nature of just having these

was just the nature of just having these teeth in his mouth and he could never

teeth in his mouth and he could never

teeth in his mouth and he could never close his mouth as we were prepping the

close his mouth as we were prepping the

close his mouth as we were prepping the show we would test things and I remember

show we would test things and I remember

show we would test things and I remember meeting Sam for the first time we had a

meeting Sam for the first time we had a

meeting Sam for the first time we had a bunch of test makeups in LA and you we

bunch of test makeups in LA and you we

bunch of test makeups in LA and you we shot everything we shot every camera

shot everything we shot every camera

shot everything we shot every camera test we shot every sculpture we made our

test we shot every sculpture we made our

test we shot every sculpture we made our own little movies running through the

own little movies running through the

own little movies running through the shop

our

our go

the real challenge is that I remember

the real challenge is that I remember with all those evil tree puppets and

with all those evil tree puppets and

with all those evil tree puppets and what I had gotten it at Alban sculpted

what I had gotten it at Alban sculpted

what I had gotten it at Alban sculpted and molded but just it was just by that

and molded but just it was just by that

and molded but just it was just by that time it was the beginning of the summer

time it was the beginning of the summer

time it was the beginning of the summer out here in LA and just we had a lot of

out here in LA and just we had a lot of

out here in LA and just we had a lot of stuff to do in a very short amount of

stuff to do in a very short amount of

stuff to do in a very short amount of time and it was it was just trying to

time and it was it was just trying to

time and it was it was just trying to get all that stuff finished and shipped

get all that stuff finished and shipped

get all that stuff finished and shipped to North Carolina because obviously

to North Carolina because obviously

to North Carolina because obviously they're already started shooting

welcome to North Carolina I have

welcome to North Carolina I have returned this is this is it Waynesboro

returned this is this is it Waynesboro

returned this is this is it Waynesboro North Carolina I was one of the biggest

North Carolina I was one of the biggest

North Carolina I was one of the biggest dumps I've ever been to

dumps I've ever been to

dumps I've ever been to it was a very very strange place much as

it was a very very strange place much as

it was a very very strange place much as I like North Carolina it is in the

I like North Carolina it is in the

I like North Carolina it is in the middle of nowhere it's muggy it's humid

middle of nowhere it's muggy it's humid

middle of nowhere it's muggy it's humid there's insects everywhere and it was

there's insects everywhere and it was

there's insects everywhere and it was the height of summer so it was hotter

the height of summer so it was hotter

the height of summer so it was hotter than hell there was nothing there you

than hell there was nothing there you

than hell there was nothing there you know in Wadesboro there was literally

know in Wadesboro there was literally

know in Wadesboro there was literally nothing there

nothing there

nothing there we found a laundry mat and it was this

we found a laundry mat and it was this

we found a laundry mat and it was this real junky laundry mat and washing our

real junky laundry mat and washing our

real junky laundry mat and washing our clothes and I'm looking around I'm

clothes and I'm looking around I'm

clothes and I'm looking around I'm noticed that we're the only two white

noticed that we're the only two white

noticed that we're the only two white guys in there everybody else is black

guys in there everybody else is black

guys in there everybody else is black all right and this woman comes over to

all right and this woman comes over to

all right and this woman comes over to us is like you know you boys shouldn't

us is like you know you boys shouldn't

us is like you know you boys shouldn't be here this is the black laundry man

be here this is the black laundry man

be here this is the black laundry man what's this app yeah kind of problem

what's this app yeah kind of problem

what's this app yeah kind of problem like now the white laundry mats over

like now the white laundry mats over

like now the white laundry mats over there okay I think that means we get the

there okay I think that means we get the

there okay I think that means we get the hell out of here and packed up our stuff

hell out of here and packed up our stuff

hell out of here and packed up our stuff and went to this beautiful laundry mat

and went to this beautiful laundry mat

and went to this beautiful laundry mat you know that had air conditioning and

you know that had air conditioning and

you know that had air conditioning and video games and concession stands it's

video games and concession stands it's

video games and concession stands it's like wow this place is really a trip you

like wow this place is really a trip you

like wow this place is really a trip you know and one of the things that's one of

know and one of the things that's one of

know and one of the things that's one of those we found a lot of like you know

those we found a lot of like you know

those we found a lot of like you know there was a restaurant and it was

there was a restaurant and it was

there was a restaurant and it was divided and you know segregation in this

divided and you know segregation in this

divided and you know segregation in this restaurant even if the movie theater

restaurant even if the movie theater

restaurant even if the movie theater there's a white entrance and a black

there's a white entrance and a black

there's a white entrance and a black entrance very strange this is 1986

entrance very strange this is 1986

entrance very strange this is 1986 you know what was interesting about it

you know what was interesting about it

you know what was interesting about it was they had taken over this this whole

was they had taken over this this whole

was they had taken over this this whole school complex and it was very well set

school complex and it was very well set

school complex and it was very well set up they had the old school

up they had the old school

up they had the old school administration in the principal's office

administration in the principal's office

administration in the principal's office was the production manager's office or

was the production manager's office or

was the production manager's office or something

Renaissance motion picture Center we

Renaissance motion picture Center we ended up having the old science lab

ended up having the old science lab

ended up having the old science lab which was which was our workshop and we

which was which was our workshop and we

which was which was our workshop and we would always put black write stuff on

would always put black write stuff on

would always put black write stuff on the blackboards quote of the day and all

the blackboards quote of the day and all

the blackboards quote of the day and all our goofy stuff but everybody sort of

our goofy stuff but everybody sort of

our goofy stuff but everybody sort of had all their own rooms and in the

had all their own rooms and in the

had all their own rooms and in the gymnasium they built sad they actually

gymnasium they built sad they actually

gymnasium they built sad they actually built it in two stories the whole show

built it in two stories the whole show

built it in two stories the whole show itself was grueling and very demanding

itself was grueling and very demanding

itself was grueling and very demanding and every makeup or every effect had its

and every makeup or every effect had its

and every makeup or every effect had its own set of demands and challenges so as

own set of demands and challenges so as

own set of demands and challenges so as a matter of pulling off one after the

a matter of pulling off one after the

a matter of pulling off one after the other there's a lot of things we just

other there's a lot of things we just

other there's a lot of things we just pulled out of our ass really I mean

pulled out of our ass really I mean

pulled out of our ass really I mean that's what you did in the 80s and

that's what you did in the 80s and

that's what you did in the 80s and you're like like yes this is going to

you're like like yes this is going to

you're like like yes this is going to work

work

work first effect we shot I believe was when

first effect we shot I believe was when

first effect we shot I believe was when Ash his hand drags him across the floor

Ash his hand drags him across the floor

Ash his hand drags him across the floor and he's sort of semi-conscious then he

and he's sort of semi-conscious then he

and he's sort of semi-conscious then he stabs his hand so I made sure to test

stabs his hand so I made sure to test

stabs his hand so I made sure to test and retest his hand this gelatin had to

and retest his hand this gelatin had to

and retest his hand this gelatin had to make sure at work it was gonna bleed etc

make sure at work it was gonna bleed etc

make sure at work it was gonna bleed etc because you know you want to make a good

because you know you want to make a good

because you know you want to make a good impression

impression

impression Bruce gets ready we arrange the cues and

Bruce gets ready we arrange the cues and

Bruce gets ready we arrange the cues and he stabbed the hand and they bled on cue

he stabbed the hand and they bled on cue

he stabbed the hand and they bled on cue beautifully and Bruce not just being an

beautifully and Bruce not just being an

beautifully and Bruce not just being an actor but one of the producers looked at

actor but one of the producers looked at

actor but one of the producers looked at the hand and look at the camera goes by

the hand and look at the camera goes by

the hand and look at the camera goes by God that sucker worked and I'm like

I make up average between an hour and a

I make up average between an hour and a half and probably three hours just

half and probably three hours just

half and probably three hours just everyday never really being into in that

everyday never really being into in that

everyday never really being into in that world where they had to put prosthetics

world where they had to put prosthetics

world where they had to put prosthetics on and do whatever I was a little

on and do whatever I was a little

on and do whatever I was a little claustrophobic so it was all a wonderful

claustrophobic so it was all a wonderful

claustrophobic so it was all a wonderful learning experience for me you're taking

learning experience for me you're taking

learning experience for me you're taking something and gluing it to your skin and

something and gluing it to your skin and

something and gluing it to your skin and then ripping it off your skin it's no

then ripping it off your skin it's no

then ripping it off your skin it's no big deal just ripping it off starting

big deal just ripping it off starting

big deal just ripping it off starting here all the way around here under the

here all the way around here under the

here all the way around here under the eyes it just it's kind of like the

eyes it just it's kind of like the

eyes it just it's kind of like the Mission Impossible thing only it's

Mission Impossible thing only it's

Mission Impossible thing only it's really ripping the glue right off your

really ripping the glue right off your

really ripping the glue right off your face and some of your skin usually comes

face and some of your skin usually comes

face and some of your skin usually comes along with it so the first time that it

along with it so the first time that it

along with it so the first time that it was painful but not that big a deal the

was painful but not that big a deal the

was painful but not that big a deal the 15th time start to get low away but

15th time start to get low away but

15th time start to get low away but fortunately we were all young and

fortunately we were all young and

fortunately we were all young and idealistic and we didn't really know we

idealistic and we didn't really know we

idealistic and we didn't really know we didn't know anything when I wasn't in

didn't know anything when I wasn't in

didn't know anything when I wasn't in special-effects makeup I was still

special-effects makeup I was still

special-effects makeup I was still beaten up I'm still covered with blood

beaten up I'm still covered with blood

beaten up I'm still covered with blood it's not a stump you know obviously

it's not a stump you know obviously

it's not a stump you know obviously you've got to now pretend that your arm

you've got to now pretend that your arm

you've got to now pretend that your arm is this this long not this long but if

is this this long not this long but if

is this this long not this long but if you just tuck this in your wrist is

you just tuck this in your wrist is

you just tuck this in your wrist is moving your wrist wouldn't be moving so

moving your wrist wouldn't be moving so

moving your wrist wouldn't be moving so we had to put a metal bar tape around

we had to put a metal bar tape around

we had to put a metal bar tape around that put a sock around that and then put

that put a sock around that and then put

that put a sock around that and then put a flat surface on top of that and then

a flat surface on top of that and then

a flat surface on top of that and then the trick was to just tuck it in so it

the trick was to just tuck it in so it

the trick was to just tuck it in so it never stuck out further than my regular

never stuck out further than my regular

never stuck out further than my regular other wrist

evolution of Henrietta happened because

evolution of Henrietta happened because I read in the script that it's a dead

I read in the script that it's a dead

I read in the script that it's a dead rotting dead lady in the cellar walking

rotting dead lady in the cellar walking

rotting dead lady in the cellar walking around after ash I did a couple sketches

around after ash I did a couple sketches

around after ash I did a couple sketches in pastel and gray paper a very skinny

in pastel and gray paper a very skinny

in pastel and gray paper a very skinny emaciated dead lady with you know

emaciated dead lady with you know

emaciated dead lady with you know breasts rotting off he could see her

breasts rotting off he could see her

breasts rotting off he could see her ribcage clearly as skeletal individual

ribcage clearly as skeletal individual

ribcage clearly as skeletal individual that my intention was to cast the

that my intention was to cast the

that my intention was to cast the skinniest actress we could for this then

skinniest actress we could for this then

skinniest actress we could for this then Sam saw Sam saw my sketch and he goes

Sam saw Sam saw my sketch and he goes

Sam saw Sam saw my sketch and he goes that's great however this character is

that's great however this character is

that's great however this character is gonna be put through such torture and I

gonna be put through such torture and I

gonna be put through such torture and I want my brother to play the part that

want my brother to play the part that

want my brother to play the part that well I explained to Sam what we can't

well I explained to Sam what we can't

well I explained to Sam what we can't take away what's there we're gonna have

take away what's there we're gonna have

take away what's there we're gonna have to add on and to do that why don't we

to add on and to do that why don't we

to add on and to do that why don't we make a big fat dead woman that we can

make a big fat dead woman that we can

make a big fat dead woman that we can carve down from there and Sam wait for

carve down from there and Sam wait for

carve down from there and Sam wait for that idea yeah the Henrietta sue

that idea yeah the Henrietta sue

that idea yeah the Henrietta sue probably was the most complicated thing

probably was the most complicated thing

probably was the most complicated thing and most uncomfortable makeup on the

and most uncomfortable makeup on the

and most uncomfortable makeup on the film kind of a big experiment at the

film kind of a big experiment at the

film kind of a big experiment at the time and then he had you know all the

time and then he had you know all the

time and then he had you know all the various pieces that went over at that

various pieces that went over at that

various pieces that went over at that mark sculpting all those guys working on

mark sculpting all those guys working on

mark sculpting all those guys working on me took I believe it was at bare minimum

me took I believe it was at bare minimum

me took I believe it was at bare minimum was three hours and I think at the

was three hours and I think at the

was three hours and I think at the outset was like eight or eight hours and

outset was like eight or eight hours and

outset was like eight or eight hours and it was very difficult in those days

it was very difficult in those days

it was very difficult in those days because prosthetics weren't as good as

because prosthetics weren't as good as

because prosthetics weren't as good as they are now it was eight or nine pieces

they are now it was eight or nine pieces

they are now it was eight or nine pieces on your face so that took a great deal

on your face so that took a great deal

on your face so that took a great deal longer and was laborious and exhaustive

longer and was laborious and exhaustive

longer and was laborious and exhaustive he was completely blind you know that

he was completely blind you know that

he was completely blind you know that was the trick about those contact lenses

was the trick about those contact lenses

was the trick about those contact lenses that were a carryover of the design from

that were a carryover of the design from

that were a carryover of the design from the first movies there's no hole in the

the first movies there's no hole in the

the first movies there's no hole in the pupil so every single possessed

pupil so every single possessed

pupil so every single possessed character was completely blown so we had

character was completely blown so we had

character was completely blown so we had to rehearse the scene without the lenses

to rehearse the scene without the lenses

to rehearse the scene without the lenses in and then I'd have to go put the

in and then I'd have to go put the

in and then I'd have to go put the contact

contact

contact and then we'd shoot so the actors that

and then we'd shoot so the actors that

and then we'd shoot so the actors that could not see what whatsoever teddy was

could not see what whatsoever teddy was

could not see what whatsoever teddy was a real trooper and miserable most of the

a real trooper and miserable most of the

a real trooper and miserable most of the time and Annie had the contacts and so

time and Annie had the contacts and so

time and Annie had the contacts and so you know there was times where he like

you know there was times where he like

you know there was times where he like crawls up out of the basement floor over

crawls up out of the basement floor over

crawls up out of the basement floor over the dirt and he bursts up out of the

the dirt and he bursts up out of the

the dirt and he bursts up out of the floor you know he'd do the whole tank

floor you know he'd do the whole tank

floor you know he'd do the whole tank totally tortured because he was in pain

totally tortured because he was in pain

totally tortured because he was in pain cuz all the dirt got in his eyes and he

cuz all the dirt got in his eyes and he

cuz all the dirt got in his eyes and he had contact lenses in and we'd try to

had contact lenses in and we'd try to

had contact lenses in and we'd try to get the dirt out of his eyes and wash

get the dirt out of his eyes and wash

get the dirt out of his eyes and wash his eyes out and everything and of

his eyes out and everything and of

his eyes out and everything and of course Sam's comes comes in and goes

course Sam's comes comes in and goes

course Sam's comes comes in and goes he's a trooper you know he can do it

he's a trooper you know he can do it

he's a trooper you know he can do it Teddy would do a scene and then

Teddy would do a scene and then

Teddy would do a scene and then afterwards was like my eyes like burning

afterwards was like my eyes like burning

afterwards was like my eyes like burning it's like yeah you're okay buddy don't

it's like yeah you're okay buddy don't

it's like yeah you're okay buddy don't be a baby friend so yeah it was hard and

be a baby friend so yeah it was hard and

be a baby friend so yeah it was hard and I passed out a couple times it's tough

I passed out a couple times it's tough

I passed out a couple times it's tough for some reason you don't really care

for some reason you don't really care

for some reason you don't really care when you're that age so and at one point

when you're that age so and at one point

when you're that age so and at one point Ted's on the little rig to have him come

Ted's on the little rig to have him come

Ted's on the little rig to have him come shooting out of the trapdoor and one of

shooting out of the trapdoor and one of

shooting out of the trapdoor and one of the guys lifting it pushed a little too

the guys lifting it pushed a little too

the guys lifting it pushed a little too hard and Ted lost his balance as he

hard and Ted lost his balance as he

hard and Ted lost his balance as he started to fall the suit just tore all

started to fall the suit just tore all

started to fall the suit just tore all the way across so we ended up having to

the way across so we ended up having to

the way across so we ended up having to sit there and superglue the suit back

sit there and superglue the suit back

sit there and superglue the suit back together people still it's legendary

together people still it's legendary

together people still it's legendary talking about that shot of Henrietta

talking about that shot of Henrietta

talking about that shot of Henrietta floating in the air and just the big rip

floating in the air and just the big rip

floating in the air and just the big rip you know in her but the suits just wide

you know in her but the suits just wide

you know in her but the suits just wide open it's like you look at that no teddy

open it's like you look at that no teddy

open it's like you look at that no teddy did a fantastic job and had to endure a

did a fantastic job and had to endure a

did a fantastic job and had to endure a tremendous amount of pain and agony from

tremendous amount of pain and agony from

tremendous amount of pain and agony from this very hot sweaty suit that collected

this very hot sweaty suit that collected

this very hot sweaty suit that collected his you know gallons of his sweat every

his you know gallons of his sweat every

his you know gallons of his sweat every day he would just have sweat pouring out

day he would just have sweat pouring out

day he would just have sweat pouring out of his feet and you know we'd take the

of his feet and you know we'd take the

of his feet and you know we'd take the suit off and there'd be like this milky

suit off and there'd be like this milky

suit off and there'd be like this milky sweat because it would mix with powder

sweat because it would mix with powder

sweat because it would mix with powder and it was like just bleakie out

and it was like just bleakie out

and it was like just bleakie out everywhere that's later in the movie

everywhere that's later in the movie

everywhere that's later in the movie when we get to the end sequence when he

when we get to the end sequence when he

when we get to the end sequence when he had the harness on and everything

had the harness on and everything

had the harness on and everything there's a trickle of sweat that's

there's a trickle of sweat that's

there's a trickle of sweat that's literally pouring out of his ear in the

literally pouring out of his ear in the

literally pouring out of his ear in the movie it was so uncomfortable for him to

movie it was so uncomfortable for him to

movie it was so uncomfortable for him to have a move that if you were the if you

have a move that if you were the if you

have a move that if you were the if you were the king of the painless makeup and

were the king of the painless makeup and

were the king of the painless makeup and mover for that day then you win

mover for that day then you win

mover for that day then you win so it was always a contest to see who

so it was always a contest to see who

so it was always a contest to see who could not rip Ted's flesh off so Ted how

could not rip Ted's flesh off so Ted how

could not rip Ted's flesh off so Ted how does it feel to be stuck in that costume

does it feel to be stuck in that costume

does it feel to be stuck in that costume all day

all day

all day it's inexplicable it's beyond your

it's inexplicable it's beyond your

it's inexplicable it's beyond your wildest nightmares but in the end worth

wildest nightmares but in the end worth

wildest nightmares but in the end worth it because those guys made one of the

it because those guys made one of the

it because those guys made one of the most enduring monsters of recent filmdom

most enduring monsters of recent filmdom

most enduring monsters of recent filmdom so felt kind of honored to you know and

so felt kind of honored to you know and

so felt kind of honored to you know and that is my very first professional job I

mean like with Linda you know we had a

mean like with Linda you know we had a poly foam latex jointed body and when

poly foam latex jointed body and when

poly foam latex jointed body and when her heads cut off and I was laying on a

her heads cut off and I was laying on a

her heads cut off and I was laying on a skateboard and the special effects I

skateboard and the special effects I

skateboard and the special effects I Verne hide had these tubes up there that

Verne hide had these tubes up there that

Verne hide had these tubes up there that were pumping out the smoke but it was

were pumping out the smoke but it was

were pumping out the smoke but it was like tobacco smoke and literally like

like tobacco smoke and literally like

like tobacco smoke and literally like tobacco juice was pouring on me kicking

tobacco juice was pouring on me kicking

tobacco juice was pouring on me kicking the door open puppeting you know Linda

the door open puppeting you know Linda

the door open puppeting you know Linda and all this nonsense wearing around

and all this nonsense wearing around

and all this nonsense wearing around briefs you know chopping her up in her

briefs you know chopping her up in her

briefs you know chopping her up in her spurting blood and there's tobacco smoke

spurting blood and there's tobacco smoke

spurting blood and there's tobacco smoke coming out you know you wear that stuff

coming out you know you wear that stuff

coming out you know you wear that stuff like war paint you know when you're

like war paint you know when you're

like war paint you know when you're younger now I'm like oh I would never do

younger now I'm like oh I would never do

younger now I'm like oh I would never do that

that

that I think one of the hardest things was

I think one of the hardest things was

I think one of the hardest things was actually keeping Rob Tapert the producer

actually keeping Rob Tapert the producer

actually keeping Rob Tapert the producer out of our room after we were wrapped

out of our room after we were wrapped

out of our room after we were wrapped and there was a couple times they broke

and there was a couple times they broke

and there was a couple times they broke into our rooms like Sam was like you

into our rooms like Sam was like you

into our rooms like Sam was like you know we'd be wrapped for the day and

know we'd be wrapped for the day and

know we'd be wrapped for the day and we'd go and then Sam with like a high

we'd go and then Sam with like a high

we'd go and then Sam with like a high you know I need a shot of the Linda head

you know I need a shot of the Linda head

you know I need a shot of the Linda head you know Rob broke into the room took

you know Rob broke into the room took

you know Rob broke into the room took the head and shot with it and there's

the head and shot with it and there's

the head and shot with it and there's actually a shot in the movie where

actually a shot in the movie where

actually a shot in the movie where Melinda's head pops up you see the hairs

Melinda's head pops up you see the hairs

Melinda's head pops up you see the hairs pinned up so it wasn't ready we hadn't

pinned up so it wasn't ready we hadn't

pinned up so it wasn't ready we hadn't finished doing it you know and so I

finished doing it you know and so I

finished doing it you know and so I remember seeing and we were really

remember seeing and we were really

remember seeing and we were really really angry that they did that they

really angry that they did that they

really angry that they did that they broke into our room so we booby-trapped

broke into our room so we booby-trapped

broke into our room so we booby-trapped the room after that and we had like Mike

the room after that and we had like Mike

the room after that and we had like Mike turcica

turcica

turcica built this cradle and we had a big water

built this cradle and we had a big water

built this cradle and we had a big water balloon in it and the rope there was

balloon in it and the rope there was

balloon in it and the rope there was like a line tied to the door so if you

like a line tied to the door so if you

like a line tied to the door so if you opened it it would release it and the

opened it it would release it and the

opened it it would release it and the water balloon would smash in your chest

water balloon would smash in your chest

water balloon would smash in your chest and and we got robbed tap it real good

and and we got robbed tap it real good

and and we got robbed tap it real good once cuz he broke into her room again

once cuz he broke into her room again

once cuz he broke into her room again and did it BAM

and did it BAM

and did it BAM got covered in water I think they stayed

got covered in water I think they stayed

got covered in water I think they stayed out of our room after that when it came

out of our room after that when it came

out of our room after that when it came to the demise of people ed he was

to the demise of people ed he was

to the demise of people ed he was supposed to get the top of his head

supposed to get the top of his head

supposed to get the top of his head chopped off and which he does I mean

chopped off and which he does I mean

chopped off and which he does I mean they filmed he gets the top of his head

they filmed he gets the top of his head

they filmed he gets the top of his head chopped off which reveals a tiny little

chopped off which reveals a tiny little

chopped off which reveals a tiny little brain inside which I want to say was

brain inside which I want to say was

brain inside which I want to say was mark shows terms idea it's like a tiny

mark shows terms idea it's like a tiny

mark shows terms idea it's like a tiny little brain with all this like kind of

little brain with all this like kind of

little brain with all this like kind of like cobwebby

like cobwebby

like cobwebby because the idea that the top of his

because the idea that the top of his

because the idea that the top of his head chopped off and he's still running

head chopped off and he's still running

head chopped off and he's still running around

around

around you know whatever until Bruce Campbell

you know whatever until Bruce Campbell

you know whatever until Bruce Campbell literally just chops him to pieces

we're gonna slice him we made two

we're gonna slice him we made two animatronic heads of evil eye one was a

animatronic heads of evil eye one was a

animatronic heads of evil eye one was a whole head which is the one that

whole head which is the one that

whole head which is the one that swallows the hair when rips out or bites

swallows the hair when rips out or bites

swallows the hair when rips out or bites out her hair and smells the hair also

out her hair and smells the hair also

out her hair and smells the hair also there was a section of head on the that

there was a section of head on the that

there was a section of head on the that was on the ground that had a cable

was on the ground that had a cable

was on the ground that had a cable control the head like a working eye and

control the head like a working eye and

control the head like a working eye and a brow that moved around and they had

a brow that moved around and they had

a brow that moved around and they had built a section of stage with holes in

built a section of stage with holes in

built a section of stage with holes in it that they had stuck arms and things

it that they had stuck arms and things

it that they had stuck arms and things in and made them up to match Rick's

in and made them up to match Rick's

in and made them up to match Rick's hands all flopping around on the ground

hands all flopping around on the ground

hands all flopping around on the ground we actually shot that sequence and that

we actually shot that sequence and that

we actually shot that sequence and that didn't meet none of that made it into

didn't meet none of that made it into

didn't meet none of that made it into the movie yeah I guess it was too much

the movie yeah I guess it was too much

the movie yeah I guess it was too much like really evil did too like what

like really evil did too like what

like really evil did too like what that's over the top

back then we were having too much fun to

back then we were having too much fun to actually you know think that there was a

actually you know think that there was a

actually you know think that there was a bad day on the film and we were like

bad day on the film and we were like

bad day on the film and we were like kids having a good time making a horror

kids having a good time making a horror

kids having a good time making a horror film whether you know what with the crew

film whether you know what with the crew

film whether you know what with the crew that was gonna go on and make a lot of

that was gonna go on and make a lot of

that was gonna go on and make a lot of movies you know they rented us a house

movies you know they rented us a house

movies you know they rented us a house we called it the Texas Chainsaw Massacre

we called it the Texas Chainsaw Massacre

we called it the Texas Chainsaw Massacre house and I kid you not the guy that

house and I kid you not the guy that

house and I kid you not the guy that built the chainsaw house in Texas built

built the chainsaw house in Texas built

built the chainsaw house in Texas built this house

this house

this house it was literally stand alone in a field

it was literally stand alone in a field

it was literally stand alone in a field with giant grass about this tall it was

with giant grass about this tall it was

with giant grass about this tall it was we it was our our frat house you know we

we it was our our frat house you know we

we it was our our frat house you know we all lived together me Bob Mike turcica

all lived together me Bob Mike turcica

all lived together me Bob Mike turcica and and Ostrom and then literally down a

and and Ostrom and then literally down a

and and Ostrom and then literally down a little ways was the Friday the 13th barn

little ways was the Friday the 13th barn

little ways was the Friday the 13th barn I'm like dude this is insane we're

I'm like dude this is insane we're

I'm like dude this is insane we're literally literally living in a horror

literally literally living in a horror

literally literally living in a horror movie each of us had a room no air

movie each of us had a room no air

movie each of us had a room no air conditioning it literally had a fan at

conditioning it literally had a fan at

conditioning it literally had a fan at the bottom of my bed blowing air through

the bottom of my bed blowing air through

the bottom of my bed blowing air through through the room and it would get so hot

through the room and it would get so hot

through the room and it would get so hot we I would take my sheets put him in ice

we I would take my sheets put him in ice

we I would take my sheets put him in ice water and then lay him on top of me in

water and then lay him on top of me in

water and then lay him on top of me in bed all night just sit there and we

bed all night just sit there and we

bed all night just sit there and we bought and Greg and I went to the store

bought and Greg and I went to the store

bought and Greg and I went to the store we bought these little fans and we

we bought these little fans and we

we bought these little fans and we screwed them to the bed so there was

screwed them to the bed so there was

screwed them to the bed so there was constant air blowing on us girls we

constant air blowing on us girls we

constant air blowing on us girls we couldn't sleep it was misery mosquitos

couldn't sleep it was misery mosquitos

couldn't sleep it was misery mosquitos everything but no matter what it was fun

everything but no matter what it was fun

everything but no matter what it was fun all right it was fun as hell we just

all right it was fun as hell we just

all right it was fun as hell we just didn't care it was like we were working

didn't care it was like we were working

didn't care it was like we were working legal dead too you know we were working

legal dead too you know we were working

legal dead too you know we were working on the sequel to the most ferociously

on the sequel to the most ferociously

on the sequel to the most ferociously original

original

original horror film ever made so as far as we

horror film ever made so as far as we

horror film ever made so as far as we were concerned it was a lot of fun

were concerned it was a lot of fun

were concerned it was a lot of fun five make-up effects guys living in a

five make-up effects guys living in a

five make-up effects guys living in a house I mean it was insanity you know

house I mean it was insanity you know

house I mean it was insanity you know and one being March Ostrom who by far it

and one being March Ostrom who by far it

and one being March Ostrom who by far it was one of the funniest people on earth

was one of the funniest people on earth

was one of the funniest people on earth I mean he would do shit that was really

I mean he would do shit that was really

I mean he would do shit that was really hilarious and he's kind of fun to work

hilarious and he's kind of fun to work

hilarious and he's kind of fun to work with because he has a lot of fun in the

with because he has a lot of fun in the

with because he has a lot of fun in the shop and we'd shoot these little movies

imagine if the guys that are on the show

imagine if the guys that are on the show jackass

jackass

jackass were makeup effects artists and I think

were makeup effects artists and I think

were makeup effects artists and I think you begin to get it it was it was like

you begin to get it it was it was like

you begin to get it it was it was like that kind of camaraderie it was that

that kind of camaraderie it was that

that kind of camaraderie it was that kind of humor it was that kind of level

kind of humor it was that kind of level

kind of humor it was that kind of level of screwing around I mean we all got our

of screwing around I mean we all got our

of screwing around I mean we all got our work done but there was a lot of

work done but there was a lot of

work done but there was a lot of horseplay what is just so they had

horseplay what is just so they had

horseplay what is just so they had gotten us a station wagon that was our

gotten us a station wagon that was our

gotten us a station wagon that was our first car and it was a total piece of

first car and it was a total piece of

first car and it was a total piece of crap and we trashed it - no we're

crap and we trashed it - no we're

crap and we trashed it - no we're literally driving through Donuts and

literally driving through Donuts and

literally driving through Donuts and riding over railroad at one point it

riding over railroad at one point it

riding over railroad at one point it broke down and we left it in the middle

broke down and we left it in the middle

broke down and we left it in the middle of the street walked and work and then

of the street walked and work and then

of the street walked and work and then we got another car and that got

we got another car and that got

we got another car and that got destroyed and you know you just don't

destroyed and you know you just don't

destroyed and you know you just don't give makeup effects guys in the 80s

give makeup effects guys in the 80s

give makeup effects guys in the 80s their own vehicle and trust them with

their own vehicle and trust them with

their own vehicle and trust them with anything you know and if you walked in

anything you know and if you walked in

anything you know and if you walked in the makeup lab you'd look on the right

the makeup lab you'd look on the right

the makeup lab you'd look on the right and we had you know had replicas

and we had you know had replicas

and we had you know had replicas henriette sued bruce campbell head what

henriette sued bruce campbell head what

henriette sued bruce campbell head what if you looked on the left we had a whole

if you looked on the left we had a whole

if you looked on the left we had a whole wall full of very realistic water

wall full of very realistic water

wall full of very realistic water pistols that was back in the days when

pistols that was back in the days when

pistols that was back in the days when it was legal to go to Toys R Us and get

it was legal to go to Toys R Us and get

it was legal to go to Toys R Us and get like an m16 that looked like a real m16

like an m16 that looked like a real m16

like an m16 that looked like a real m16 or an Uzi and when we needed to blow off

or an Uzi and when we needed to blow off

or an Uzi and when we needed to blow off steam we go in these massive water

steam we go in these massive water

steam we go in these massive water fights

so silly it was so much fun though and

so silly it was so much fun though and and back then it was very different than

and back then it was very different than

and back then it was very different than it is today mind you I mean now we

it is today mind you I mean now we

it is today mind you I mean now we actually have businesses and it's very

actually have businesses and it's very

actually have businesses and it's very structured and you know it's still fun

structured and you know it's still fun

structured and you know it's still fun but it's not like the old days and when

but it's not like the old days and when

but it's not like the old days and when we work for Joe Strummer it was complete

we work for Joe Strummer it was complete

we work for Joe Strummer it was complete hilarity 24/7 the last two weeks Howard

hilarity 24/7 the last two weeks Howard

hilarity 24/7 the last two weeks Howard and Bob and Greg had all gone to work on

and Bob and Greg had all gone to work on

and Bob and Greg had all gone to work on Creepshow two so they left the project

Creepshow two so they left the project

Creepshow two so they left the project about two weeks early what happened was

about two weeks early what happened was

about two weeks early what happened was because of my association with Laurel

because of my association with Laurel

because of my association with Laurel entertainment and George Romero and

entertainment and George Romero and

entertainment and George Romero and Richard Rubinstein they had called and

Richard Rubinstein they had called and

Richard Rubinstein they had called and asked if we were available so I left and

asked if we were available so I left and

asked if we were available so I left and went directly from North Carolina right

went directly from North Carolina right

went directly from North Carolina right to New York to work on Creepshow two so

to New York to work on Creepshow two so

to New York to work on Creepshow two so I didn't really I mean I may have left a

I didn't really I mean I may have left a

I didn't really I mean I may have left a week early but by then all of our gags

week early but by then all of our gags

week early but by then all of our gags were finished so kind of kind of wound

were finished so kind of kind of wound

were finished so kind of kind of wound down to fewer and fewer people and less

down to fewer and fewer people and less

down to fewer and fewer people and less to shoot and finally we did the

to shoot and finally we did the

to shoot and finally we did the exploding peewee head and that was it

exploding peewee head and that was it

exploding peewee head and that was it for us

for us

for us I stayed watched the final shot of the

I stayed watched the final shot of the

I stayed watched the final shot of the entire movie which was the walls

entire movie which was the walls

entire movie which was the walls shooting blood and destroying the whole

shooting blood and destroying the whole

shooting blood and destroying the whole set

you're right Bruce that's the reason

you're right Bruce that's the reason they shot at last cuz it just decimated

they shot at last cuz it just decimated

they shot at last cuz it just decimated the place and then got on an American

the place and then got on an American

the place and then got on an American Airlines flight 79 I remember and it's

Airlines flight 79 I remember and it's

Airlines flight 79 I remember and it's flying via Dallas and I just pretty much

flying via Dallas and I just pretty much

flying via Dallas and I just pretty much collapsed in my chair and slept until I

collapsed in my chair and slept until I

collapsed in my chair and slept until I got to California

it really was a kind of a grooming time

it really was a kind of a grooming time for all of us to really kind of push

for all of us to really kind of push

for all of us to really kind of push what we knew to a higher level and all

what we knew to a higher level and all

what we knew to a higher level and all of us I mean Howard Berger Mike terrific

of us I mean Howard Berger Mike terrific

of us I mean Howard Berger Mike terrific all of us Evil Dead 2 was the proving

all of us Evil Dead 2 was the proving

all of us Evil Dead 2 was the proving ground for kmb because it was the first

ground for kmb because it was the first

ground for kmb because it was the first instance where Howard Bob and I had all

instance where Howard Bob and I had all

instance where Howard Bob and I had all worked together in a capacity where each

worked together in a capacity where each

worked together in a capacity where each of us complemented each other yeah I

of us complemented each other yeah I

of us complemented each other yeah I mean it was it was a great experience

mean it was it was a great experience

mean it was it was a great experience from the first day to the last day was a

from the first day to the last day was a

from the first day to the last day was a blast and it's definitely one of my most

blast and it's definitely one of my most

blast and it's definitely one of my most favorite films I've worked on because

favorite films I've worked on because

favorite films I've worked on because the experience was just so fantastic but

the experience was just so fantastic but

the experience was just so fantastic but it was the wild ride

it was the wild ride

it was the wild ride still is

you

hello what about the film a very

hello what about the film a very dangerous stunt Bruce Campbell is about

dangerous stunt Bruce Campbell is about

dangerous stunt Bruce Campbell is about to hook you crash through these steps

to hook you crash through these steps

to hook you crash through these steps over there hi Bruce Sam and I have a

over there hi Bruce Sam and I have a

over there hi Bruce Sam and I have a good symbiotic relationship you know

good symbiotic relationship you know

good symbiotic relationship you know he's crazy and I guess I'm willing to

he's crazy and I guess I'm willing to

he's crazy and I guess I'm willing to put up with his craziness you know he

put up with his craziness you know he

put up with his craziness you know he has to figure out how to get a scene

has to figure out how to get a scene

has to figure out how to get a scene done and they're all very complicated

done and they're all very complicated

done and they're all very complicated very involved I think we were all very

very involved I think we were all very

very involved I think we were all very impressed with how young he was I

impressed with how young he was I

impressed with how young he was I remember someone saying he was like

remember someone saying he was like

remember someone saying he was like Hitchcock he had every shot lined up

Hitchcock he had every shot lined up

Hitchcock he had every shot lined up what he wanted have you know he had it

what he wanted have you know he had it

what he wanted have you know he had it already in his mind how he wanted it to

already in his mind how he wanted it to

already in his mind how he wanted it to be he was a very clear very even-keeled

be he was a very clear very even-keeled

be he was a very clear very even-keeled director and he's just a slightly bigger

director and he's just a slightly bigger

director and he's just a slightly bigger than life character who is playing the

than life character who is playing the

than life character who is playing the part of a director at the same time he's

part of a director at the same time he's

part of a director at the same time he's directing our idea people let's go we

directing our idea people let's go we

directing our idea people let's go we got a big scene issue today a lot of

got a big scene issue today a lot of

got a big scene issue today a lot of work it's interesting because it I think

work it's interesting because it I think

work it's interesting because it I think that it kind of sets a tone on set

that it kind of sets a tone on set

that it kind of sets a tone on set because it's like this guy's here on

because it's like this guy's here on

because it's like this guy's here on business I mean he wants to have a good

business I mean he wants to have a good

business I mean he wants to have a good time but he's here for business and he's

time but he's here for business and he's

time but he's here for business and he's but yet he'll say the craziest things

once what he wants you guess what he

once what he wants you guess what he gets but he does it in a very charming

gets but he does it in a very charming

gets but he does it in a very charming way he doesn't remember anybody's name

way he doesn't remember anybody's name

way he doesn't remember anybody's name so everyone is pal buddy sir or ma'am

so everyone is pal buddy sir or ma'am

so everyone is pal buddy sir or ma'am scene 500 take one very exciting okay

scene 500 take one very exciting okay

scene 500 take one very exciting okay ready and action

ready and action

ready and action he really left characterizations up to

he really left characterizations up to

he really left characterizations up to us or that was my experience of him I

us or that was my experience of him I

us or that was my experience of him I think he cast very carefully and he knew

think he cast very carefully and he knew

think he cast very carefully and he knew sort of what he was looking for in the

sort of what he was looking for in the

sort of what he was looking for in the casting but he never really talked to me

casting but he never really talked to me

casting but he never really talked to me about sort of how he wanted me to play

about sort of how he wanted me to play

about sort of how he wanted me to play something or what he wanted me to do

something or what he wanted me to do

something or what he wanted me to do with it he really left that up to me and

with it he really left that up to me and

with it he really left that up to me and very much appreciated that now I've

very much appreciated that now I've

very much appreciated that now I've known the man for it's 2530 years I

known the man for it's 2530 years I

known the man for it's 2530 years I still don't know what to make of Sam

still don't know what to make of Sam

still don't know what to make of Sam it's one of the most interesting people

it's one of the most interesting people

it's one of the most interesting people you ever wanna meet you know life a he's

you ever wanna meet you know life a he's

you ever wanna meet you know life a he's obviously a true genius he's incredibly

obviously a true genius he's incredibly

obviously a true genius he's incredibly dedicated to his work and he loves the

dedicated to his work and he loves the

dedicated to his work and he loves the torturers actors do we get a commentary

torturers actors do we get a commentary

torturers actors do we get a commentary on this evil hand grabbing face Sam is

on this evil hand grabbing face Sam is

on this evil hand grabbing face Sam is the director who favors performances

the director who favors performances

the director who favors performances that are very bold but very honest

that are very bold but very honest

that are very bold but very honest that's what he likes he likes incredible

that's what he likes he likes incredible

that's what he likes he likes incredible specificity in his actors but he doesn't

specificity in his actors but he doesn't

specificity in his actors but he doesn't want phoning us from them

want phoning us from them

want phoning us from them so that's a pretty hard and rare kind of

so that's a pretty hard and rare kind of

so that's a pretty hard and rare kind of a performance to be able to give but he

a performance to be able to give but he

a performance to be able to give but he picks actors for that ability now give

picks actors for that ability now give

picks actors for that ability now give me I used to make most beautiful jams

me I used to make most beautiful jams

me I used to make most beautiful jams and pastries when I was young Sam Raimi

and pastries when I was young Sam Raimi

and pastries when I was young Sam Raimi is one of the most imaginative directors

is one of the most imaginative directors

is one of the most imaginative directors I've ever worked with I he is where he

I've ever worked with I he is where he

I've ever worked with I he is where he draws his reference and his inspiration

draws his reference and his inspiration

draws his reference and his inspiration from there so many different diverse

from there so many different diverse

from there so many different diverse areas he's so intelligent and so fun and

areas he's so intelligent and so fun and

areas he's so intelligent and so fun and funny and who knew that he was the

funny and who knew that he was the

funny and who knew that he was the hilarious

hilarious

hilarious someone that had worked with sam in

someone that had worked with sam in

someone that had worked with sam in michigan years before told me there's a

michigan years before told me there's a

michigan years before told me there's a secret to sam raimi it's that he keeps

secret to sam raimi it's that he keeps

secret to sam raimi it's that he keeps trying to make three stooges movie he

trying to make three stooges movie he

trying to make three stooges movie he loves The Three Stooges which it shows

loves The Three Stooges which it shows

loves The Three Stooges which it shows his sense of humor really shows in the

his sense of humor really shows in the

his sense of humor really shows in the movies but I love the fact that it can

movies but I love the fact that it can

movies but I love the fact that it can go from really funny to terrifying

go from really funny to terrifying

go from really funny to terrifying within a span of a couple seconds and it

within a span of a couple seconds and it

within a span of a couple seconds and it was then I think I got a sense of Sam

was then I think I got a sense of Sam

was then I think I got a sense of Sam Raimi and what this was that that's when

Raimi and what this was that that's when

Raimi and what this was that that's when the light bulb

the light bulb

the light bulb there's a little irony here there's a

there's a little irony here there's a

there's a little irony here there's a little this is not a traditional you

little this is not a traditional you

little this is not a traditional you know Halloween or Friday the 13th horror

know Halloween or Friday the 13th horror

know Halloween or Friday the 13th horror movie it's either gonna be bizarre and I

movie it's either gonna be bizarre and I

movie it's either gonna be bizarre and I don't with what I'm doing or this is

don't with what I'm doing or this is

don't with what I'm doing or this is gonna be pretty cool and when I met him

gonna be pretty cool and when I met him

gonna be pretty cool and when I met him that irony and that sense of whimsy I

that irony and that sense of whimsy I

that irony and that sense of whimsy I think a childlike sense of hey we'll

think a childlike sense of hey we'll

think a childlike sense of hey we'll make it a movie we're still there

another will be chained in the cellar I

another will be chained in the cellar I hope and pray they won't get he just put

hope and pray they won't get he just put

hope and pray they won't get he just put it together and and he had Bruce coming

it together and and he had Bruce coming

it together and and he had Bruce coming together - that was the other thing it's

together - that was the other thing it's

together - that was the other thing it's not just Sam it's Bruce and Sam right I

not just Sam it's Bruce and Sam right I

not just Sam it's Bruce and Sam right I mean you could argue he is he is Sam's

mean you could argue he is he is Sam's

mean you could argue he is he is Sam's DeNiro just you know I mean they get it

DeNiro just you know I mean they get it

DeNiro just you know I mean they get it they they they have a secondhand

they they they have a secondhand

they they they have a secondhand language that you know they've done so

language that you know they've done so

language that you know they've done so much work together they just understand

much work together they just understand

much work together they just understand each other

you guys make sure to cancel our leases

you guys make sure to cancel our leases see that's a reason in spasm he could

see that's a reason in spasm he could

see that's a reason in spasm he could yell at me and abuse me and I knew what

yell at me and abuse me and I knew what

yell at me and abuse me and I knew what he meant I didn't take it personally it

he meant I didn't take it personally it

he meant I didn't take it personally it wasn't that wasn't like that at all

wasn't that wasn't like that at all

wasn't that wasn't like that at all you know there's a lot of joking around

you know there's a lot of joking around

you know there's a lot of joking around Sam is a real prankster he's a real

Sam is a real prankster he's a real

Sam is a real prankster he's a real Joker we're about to shoot a very

Joker we're about to shoot a very

Joker we're about to shoot a very dangerous stunt with Bruce Campbell

dangerous stunt with Bruce Campbell

dangerous stunt with Bruce Campbell we've attached a line to his throat yes

we've attached a line to his throat yes

we've attached a line to his throat yes I rely on my stomach usually

I've got it going out Sam they're gonna

I've got it going out Sam they're gonna good luck to you for us good and we know

good luck to you for us good and we know

good luck to you for us good and we know this is very deep I hope you can survive

this is very deep I hope you can survive

this is very deep I hope you can survive this Hank

anytime I had the camera on them behind

anytime I had the camera on them behind the scenes they would ham it up poor we

the scenes they would ham it up poor we

the scenes they would ham it up poor we won't even get you who are we going to

won't even get you who are we going to

won't even get you who are we going to get to do the bladder makeup again I

get to do the bladder makeup again I

get to do the bladder makeup again I don't know it seems like we could get

don't know it seems like we could get

don't know it seems like we could get almost anybody because it couldn't

almost anybody because it couldn't

almost anybody because it couldn't possibly be worse than the other stuff

possibly be worse than the other stuff

possibly be worse than the other stuff with that minor ease it was awful oh you

with that minor ease it was awful oh you

with that minor ease it was awful oh you go to set every day man he's like a kid

go to set every day man he's like a kid

go to set every day man he's like a kid in a candy store you know if you give

in a candy store you know if you give

in a candy store you know if you give him five things he wants to use all five

him five things he wants to use all five

him five things he wants to use all five things now you know so how many Deadites

things now you know so how many Deadites

things now you know so how many Deadites do I have you know yeah ten I'm gonna

do I have you know yeah ten I'm gonna

do I have you know yeah ten I'm gonna use all ten you know he comes from a

use all ten you know he comes from a

use all ten you know he comes from a magician background so I think his

magician background so I think his

magician background so I think his theory is I'm gonna hit you with all

theory is I'm gonna hit you with all

theory is I'm gonna hit you with all kinds of tricks sleight of hand

where'd he go

yeah we were very impressed the actors

yeah we were very impressed the actors and I were very impressed that he was so

and I were very impressed that he was so

and I were very impressed that he was so kind of cool he was very sort of cool of

kind of cool he was very sort of cool of

kind of cool he was very sort of cool of course those were the years when

course those were the years when

course those were the years when everybody smoked non-stop so he went

everybody smoked non-stop so he went

everybody smoked non-stop so he went through at least a pack of cigarettes

through at least a pack of cigarettes

through at least a pack of cigarettes every two or three hours it was pretty

every two or three hours it was pretty

every two or three hours it was pretty pretty impressive the cool thing was Sam

pretty impressive the cool thing was Sam

pretty impressive the cool thing was Sam had so many definite ideas very specific

had so many definite ideas very specific

had so many definite ideas very specific that was a wonderful thing about Sam you

that was a wonderful thing about Sam you

that was a wonderful thing about Sam you always knew what he wanted because he

always knew what he wanted because he

always knew what he wanted because he was never ambiguous about it he knew

was never ambiguous about it he knew

was never ambiguous about it he knew exactly what he wanted he knew how to

exactly what he wanted he knew how to

exactly what he wanted he knew how to get it he knew cameras and lenses and

get it he knew cameras and lenses and

get it he knew cameras and lenses and filmmaking better than any director I've

filmmaking better than any director I've

filmmaking better than any director I've ever worked with this is a plate shot

ever worked with this is a plate shot

ever worked with this is a plate shot I love reading Sam's scripts and then

I love reading Sam's scripts and then

I love reading Sam's scripts and then seeing how important things like camera

seeing how important things like camera

seeing how important things like camera angles and how important sound effects

angles and how important sound effects

angles and how important sound effects are to him because he really uses every

are to him because he really uses every

are to him because he really uses every single medium he can to heighten the

single medium he can to heighten the

single medium he can to heighten the experience of being trapped in this time

experience of being trapped in this time

experience of being trapped in this time and a lot of times we sat on set you

and a lot of times we sat on set you

and a lot of times we sat on set you know and watch sam raimi do stuff and

know and watch sam raimi do stuff and

know and watch sam raimi do stuff and they've scratched our heads like how

they've scratched our heads like how

they've scratched our heads like how this can work like Sam would get on a

this can work like Sam would get on a

this can work like Sam would get on a sound blanket you know with the camera

sound blanket you know with the camera

sound blanket you know with the camera the little eye mo between his legs and

the little eye mo between his legs and

the little eye mo between his legs and they dragged him across the floor and

they dragged him across the floor and

they dragged him across the floor and I'm like I looked at Gregg I'm like

I'm like I looked at Gregg I'm like

I'm like I looked at Gregg I'm like really and then we see the footage like

really and then we see the footage like

really and then we see the footage like that was great you know it's so late low

that was great you know it's so late low

that was great you know it's so late low tech but it works out fantastic so a lot

tech but it works out fantastic so a lot

tech but it works out fantastic so a lot of things like that and just seeing the

of things like that and just seeing the

of things like that and just seeing the resourcefulness of Sam Raimi he really

resourcefulness of Sam Raimi he really

resourcefulness of Sam Raimi he really put it together visually on this thing I

put it together visually on this thing I

put it together visually on this thing I mean you could tell and he dreamt up

mean you could tell and he dreamt up

mean you could tell and he dreamt up rigs and you know he challenged his crew

rigs and you know he challenged his crew

rigs and you know he challenged his crew and you know he pushed them it but

and you know he pushed them it but

and you know he pushed them it but everyone to be there they all wanted to

everyone to be there they all wanted to

everyone to be there they all wanted to be part of it that's a very unique thing

be part of it that's a very unique thing

be part of it that's a very unique thing about Sam he's always had that you'll

about Sam he's always had that you'll

about Sam he's always had that you'll follow him anywhere you know because you

follow him anywhere you know because you

follow him anywhere you know because you know you're gonna do something that's

know you're gonna do something that's

know you're gonna do something that's worthwhile what we plan to do is it's

worthwhile what we plan to do is it's

worthwhile what we plan to do is it's only for the magic of Ixion's

only for the magic of Ixion's

only for the magic of Ixion's that the effect of the terror will take

that the effect of the terror will take

that the effect of the terror will take place the magnitude of his success

place the magnitude of his success

place the magnitude of his success surprises me because Sam does not want

surprises me because Sam does not want

surprises me because Sam does not want to compromise his beliefs and his dreams

to compromise his beliefs and his dreams

to compromise his beliefs and his dreams for what he thinks they want your

for what he thinks they want your

for what he thinks they want your talented people are gonna want to have a

talented people are gonna want to have a

talented people are gonna want to have a bite of you so I guess he let them have

bite of you so I guess he let them have

bite of you so I guess he let them have a little nibble Evil Dead 2 was the

a little nibble Evil Dead 2 was the

a little nibble Evil Dead 2 was the first time we worked with Sam Raimi but

first time we worked with Sam Raimi but

first time we worked with Sam Raimi but it wasn't the last and it was always

it wasn't the last and it was always

it wasn't the last and it was always really fantastic to get a call from Sam

really fantastic to get a call from Sam

really fantastic to get a call from Sam Raimi and we always said if Sam called

Raimi and we always said if Sam called

Raimi and we always said if Sam called us in the middle of the night and said

us in the middle of the night and said

us in the middle of the night and said ok buddies come on over we're gonna

ok buddies come on over we're gonna

ok buddies come on over we're gonna shoot this movie in my mom's backyard we

shoot this movie in my mom's backyard we

shoot this movie in my mom's backyard we would be there in a heartbeat

would be there in a heartbeat

would be there in a heartbeat like we'd do anything Sam asked and his

like we'd do anything Sam asked and his

like we'd do anything Sam asked and his sensibilities have never changed which

sensibilities have never changed which

sensibilities have never changed which is what I love about him he still he

is what I love about him he still he

is what I love about him he still he still has this sort of gleeful maniacal

still has this sort of gleeful maniacal

still has this sort of gleeful maniacal giggle when something really outrageous

giggle when something really outrageous

giggle when something really outrageous happens Sam still has that energy you

happens Sam still has that energy you

happens Sam still has that energy you know and I do believe like with all

know and I do believe like with all

know and I do believe like with all these amazing gigantic 200 million

these amazing gigantic 200 million

these amazing gigantic 200 million dollar movies Sam has done he's most

dollar movies Sam has done he's most

dollar movies Sam has done he's most happy doing little low-budget horror

happy doing little low-budget horror

happy doing little low-budget horror movies welcome to the world at movie

movies welcome to the world at movie

movies welcome to the world at movie magic

magic

magic this is a flying head ring and no matter

this is a flying head ring and no matter

this is a flying head ring and no matter what every time I look at sam raimi I

what every time I look at sam raimi I

what every time I look at sam raimi I see that guy you know who you know does

see that guy you know who you know does

see that guy you know who you know does these giant films but if I gave him a

these giant films but if I gave him a

these giant films but if I gave him a hammer made of rubber and he could hit

hammer made of rubber and he could hit

hammer made of rubber and he could hit somebody in the head with her over and

somebody in the head with her over and

somebody in the head with her over and over again he would be the happiest guy

over again he would be the happiest guy

over again he would be the happiest guy on earth don't be alarmed because you

on earth don't be alarmed because you

on earth don't be alarmed because you see it's only a picture

the first evil dead

the first evil dead we were very connected to it it was Bart

we were very connected to it it was Bart

we were very connected to it it was Bart Pearson Tom Sullivan doing stop-motion

Pearson Tom Sullivan doing stop-motion

Pearson Tom Sullivan doing stop-motion and gore effects in his basement for

and gore effects in his basement for

and gore effects in his basement for three months evil that two things were

three months evil that two things were

three months evil that two things were happening more at the same time clearly

happening more at the same time clearly

happening more at the same time clearly the makeup effects was on a whole nother

the makeup effects was on a whole nother

the makeup effects was on a whole nother scale and I I didn't really want to do

scale and I I didn't really want to do

scale and I I didn't really want to do that I wanted to try this stop-motion

that I wanted to try this stop-motion

that I wanted to try this stop-motion thing they had me set up a room for Tom

thing they had me set up a room for Tom

thing they had me set up a room for Tom Sullivan to work in he was coming to do

Sullivan to work in he was coming to do

Sullivan to work in he was coming to do the Animus some of the animation shots

the Animus some of the animation shots

the Animus some of the animation shots in the Book of the Dead props and things

in the Book of the Dead props and things

in the Book of the Dead props and things and the dagger and so I got that room

and the dagger and so I got that room

and the dagger and so I got that room set up and Tom was the first effects

set up and Tom was the first effects

set up and Tom was the first effects person to show up so I got to work and I

person to show up so I got to work and I

person to show up so I got to work and I had tons to do I did the opening with

had tons to do I did the opening with

had tons to do I did the opening with the book coming in it was written by the

the book coming in it was written by the

the book coming in it was written by the Dark One's

Dark One's

Dark One's and I'd built a stop-motion animation

and I'd built a stop-motion animation

and I'd built a stop-motion animation book it had the pages in it and the

book it had the pages in it and the

book it had the pages in it and the stop-motion book had wooden covers and

stop-motion book had wooden covers and

stop-motion book had wooden covers and the covers were hinged and also had ball

the covers were hinged and also had ball

the covers were hinged and also had ball and socket joints so that I could

and socket joints so that I could

and socket joints so that I could animate those and each page had two

animate those and each page had two

animate those and each page had two pieces of paper over aluminum wire so

pieces of paper over aluminum wire so

pieces of paper over aluminum wire so that I could animate the paper flipping

that I could animate the paper flipping

that I could animate the paper flipping back and forth there's a shot of the

back and forth there's a shot of the

back and forth there's a shot of the book being written and for that I hand

book being written and for that I hand

book being written and for that I hand drew I think the first four or six pages

drew I think the first four or six pages

drew I think the first four or six pages and then I would ink it in do a little

and then I would ink it in do a little

and then I would ink it in do a little bit and then click a frame and stand

bit and then click a frame and stand

bit and then click a frame and stand back and do a little bit more and click

back and do a little bit more and click

back and do a little bit more and click afraid then Sam wanted the pages to turn

afraid then Sam wanted the pages to turn

afraid then Sam wanted the pages to turn as each page was completed but to

as each page was completed but to

as each page was completed but to accelerate so the next four or six pages

accelerate so the next four or six pages

accelerate so the next four or six pages I had the artwork already done and cut

I had the artwork already done and cut

I had the artwork already done and cut out and I would just glue down with

out and I would just glue down with

out and I would just glue down with contact cement take a frame glue another

contact cement take a frame glue another

contact cement take a frame glue another picture down through the pop-pop-pop

picture down through the pop-pop-pop

picture down through the pop-pop-pop look and then the last of the pages were

look and then the last of the pages were

look and then the last of the pages were already hand-drawn the whole book was

already hand-drawn the whole book was

already hand-drawn the whole book was hand Illustrated I needed a cameraman

hand Illustrated I needed a cameraman

hand Illustrated I needed a cameraman for the stop-motion and they got Larry

for the stop-motion and they got Larry

for the stop-motion and they got Larry Larsen an experienced animator and he

Larsen an experienced animator and he

Larsen an experienced animator and he had this beautiful 35 millimeter

had this beautiful 35 millimeter

had this beautiful 35 millimeter Mitchell camera and for you film fans

Mitchell camera and for you film fans

Mitchell camera and for you film fans out there that's what Ray Harryhausen

out there that's what Ray Harryhausen

out there that's what Ray Harryhausen used so that was really cool

used so that was really cool

used so that was really cool Larry had to leave on a family emergency

Larry had to leave on a family emergency

Larry had to leave on a family emergency and that left me in town so here I was

and that left me in town so here I was

and that left me in town so here I was an 18 year old kid and I ended up

an 18 year old kid and I ended up

an 18 year old kid and I ended up photographing some of Tom's animation

photographing some of Tom's animation

photographing some of Tom's animation which ended up being the opening of the

which ended up being the opening of the

which ended up being the opening of the film of the ghosts flying out of the

film of the ghosts flying out of the

film of the ghosts flying out of the vortex I had made to round four-foot

vortex I had made to round four-foot

vortex I had made to round four-foot diameter vortexes put him on a big lazy

diameter vortexes put him on a big lazy

diameter vortexes put him on a big lazy susan and spin them and take the brush

susan and spin them and take the brush

susan and spin them and take the brush and just drive it to the outside and

and just drive it to the outside and

and just drive it to the outside and then you'd get like it real easy made

then you'd get like it real easy made

then you'd get like it real easy made vortex originally the suit of the film

vortex originally the suit of the film

vortex originally the suit of the film was going to open with a recap of the

was going to open with a recap of the

was going to open with a recap of the first Evil Dead which it still kind of

first Evil Dead which it still kind of

first Evil Dead which it still kind of does but it kind of doesn't - but

does but it kind of doesn't - but

does but it kind of doesn't - but originally there was going to be some

originally there was going to be some

originally there was going to be some recaps of the meltdowns and things and

recaps of the meltdowns and things and

recaps of the meltdowns and things and there was a like half scale sculpture of

there was a like half scale sculpture of

there was a like half scale sculpture of Sam Raimi who was going to be playing

Sam Raimi who was going to be playing

Sam Raimi who was going to be playing Scotty and I think he got too expensive

Scotty and I think he got too expensive

Scotty and I think he got too expensive so they just kind of tossed it out and

so they just kind of tossed it out and

so they just kind of tossed it out and recondense tit we did end up shooting

recondense tit we did end up shooting

recondense tit we did end up shooting the book burning in the fireplace I

the book burning in the fireplace I

the book burning in the fireplace I think that was the only shot for the

think that was the only shot for the

think that was the only shot for the recap sequence that we filmed

I know for a fact that I recommended

I know for a fact that I recommended Doug bazevich for they have the dancing

Doug bazevich for they have the dancing

Doug bazevich for they have the dancing Linda and it was clearly an element

Linda and it was clearly an element

Linda and it was clearly an element where the wider shots would have to be

where the wider shots would have to be

where the wider shots would have to be stop motion because we can't have a

stop motion because we can't have a

stop motion because we can't have a dummy or an actress with a head removed

dummy or an actress with a head removed

dummy or an actress with a head removed dancing in full shots the choreographer

dancing in full shots the choreographer

dancing in full shots the choreographer cam warner designed a dance sequence we

cam warner designed a dance sequence we

cam warner designed a dance sequence we photographed that that dance sequence on

photographed that that dance sequence on

photographed that that dance sequence on 35 millimeter film and we sent this Roth

35 millimeter film and we sent this Roth

35 millimeter film and we sent this Roth 35 millimeter footage to Sam Raimi and

35 millimeter footage to Sam Raimi and

35 millimeter footage to Sam Raimi and Sam cut together the dance sequence

Sam cut together the dance sequence

Sam cut together the dance sequence basically the scene was completely built

basically the scene was completely built

basically the scene was completely built in live action first they sent me of the

in live action first they sent me of the

in live action first they sent me of the cut footage and then we went to work

cut footage and then we went to work

cut footage and then we went to work matching that basically frame by frame

matching that basically frame by frame

matching that basically frame by frame and then I had a crew building the

and then I had a crew building the

and then I had a crew building the miniature set the supervisor there was

miniature set the supervisor there was

miniature set the supervisor there was Jim Bella Hovick when Doug Beswick

Jim Bella Hovick when Doug Beswick

Jim Bella Hovick when Doug Beswick called me up to work on Evil Dead 2 I

called me up to work on Evil Dead 2 I

called me up to work on Evil Dead 2 I had already worked on aliens the thing

had already worked on aliens the thing

had already worked on aliens the thing so my skills were starting to get more

so my skills were starting to get more

so my skills were starting to get more refined my direct job

refined my direct job

refined my direct job when Doug Beswick hired me was to build

when Doug Beswick hired me was to build

when Doug Beswick hired me was to build what we call the cabin set so I had to

what we call the cabin set so I had to

what we call the cabin set so I had to build this cabin and trees that for an

build this cabin and trees that for an

build this cabin and trees that for an animation setup were going to be a

animation setup were going to be a

animation setup were going to be a challenge because if Doug would reach

challenge because if Doug would reach

challenge because if Doug would reach into the set nothing could move the

into the set nothing could move the

into the set nothing could move the animation was very challenging because

animation was very challenging because

animation was very challenging because this was you know actually trying to

this was you know actually trying to

this was you know actually trying to duplicate a performance so it was a bit

duplicate a performance so it was a bit

duplicate a performance so it was a bit challenging in that respect and it was

challenging in that respect and it was

challenging in that respect and it was all tabletop so it's a pretty slow

all tabletop so it's a pretty slow

all tabletop so it's a pretty slow process I would say I probably got maybe

process I would say I probably got maybe

process I would say I probably got maybe a frame every five minutes you know that

a frame every five minutes you know that

a frame every five minutes you know that would be at the peak or you work in your

would be at the peak or you work in your

would be at the peak or you work in your fastest so it's very slow and tedious

fastest so it's very slow and tedious

fastest so it's very slow and tedious and there's no going back you know if

and there's no going back you know if

and there's no going back you know if you make a mistake you basically have to

you make a mistake you basically have to

you make a mistake you basically have to start over

my job in the film when it started was

my job in the film when it started was just to do the crawling hands or seams

just to do the crawling hands or seams

just to do the crawling hands or seams and I did fly down there to do the one

and I did fly down there to do the one

and I did fly down there to do the one long shot because we no way to duplicate

long shot because we no way to duplicate

long shot because we no way to duplicate that entire room and the rest of them

that entire room and the rest of them

that entire room and the rest of them were done on a miniature or not a

were done on a miniature or not a

were done on a miniature or not a miniature but a rebuilt set to match a

miniature but a rebuilt set to match a

miniature but a rebuilt set to match a small section of the real set and all

small section of the real set and all

small section of the real set and all the other cuts were done in my studio I

the other cuts were done in my studio I

the other cuts were done in my studio I had basically had to match the paint job

had basically had to match the paint job

had basically had to match the paint job get the armature made get that set in

get the armature made get that set in

get the armature made get that set in the mold right do the foam cast and then

the mold right do the foam cast and then

the mold right do the foam cast and then took it down on set for them to approve

took it down on set for them to approve

took it down on set for them to approve Bailey I just stood around most of the

Bailey I just stood around most of the

Bailey I just stood around most of the day and watched everybody else shoot

day and watched everybody else shoot

day and watched everybody else shoot scenes and had a good time and then once

scenes and had a good time and then once

scenes and had a good time and then once they shut down for the day somewhere

they shut down for the day somewhere

they shut down for the day somewhere around midnight I went in and shot for

around midnight I went in and shot for

around midnight I went in and shot for about three hours to do the hand

about three hours to do the hand

about three hours to do the hand crawling across the room and then after

crawling across the room and then after

crawling across the room and then after we did that they just had so many

we did that they just had so many

we did that they just had so many effects on the film that Sam or Rob said

effects on the film that Sam or Rob said

effects on the film that Sam or Rob said could you help us out with some other

could you help us out with some other

could you help us out with some other shots and that turned into the neck

shots and that turned into the neck

shots and that turned into the neck growing and head changing transformation

growing and head changing transformation

growing and head changing transformation scene and a couple other scenes of the

scene and a couple other scenes of the

scene and a couple other scenes of the bust of Henrietta lunging at the camera

bust of Henrietta lunging at the camera

bust of Henrietta lunging at the camera and then the full-body puppet with ash

and then the full-body puppet with ash

and then the full-body puppet with ash swinging the chainsaw and stuff a couple

swinging the chainsaw and stuff a couple

swinging the chainsaw and stuff a couple of stop-motion cuts of that so it turned

of stop-motion cuts of that so it turned

of stop-motion cuts of that so it turned into more than initial he was supposed

into more than initial he was supposed

into more than initial he was supposed to be

a lot of the stuff that Tom and I were

a lot of the stuff that Tom and I were dealing with were there were things like

dealing with were there were things like

dealing with were there were things like the Henrietta head coming up out of the

the Henrietta head coming up out of the

the Henrietta head coming up out of the floor

floor

floor Mike terrific did the sculpture and at

Mike terrific did the sculpture and at

Mike terrific did the sculpture and at that point they hadn't put Ted Raimi in

that point they hadn't put Ted Raimi in

that point they hadn't put Ted Raimi in the Henrietta makeup yet so he sculpted

the Henrietta makeup yet so he sculpted

the Henrietta makeup yet so he sculpted it so it looked just like the actress

it so it looked just like the actress

it so it looked just like the actress who was playing Henrietta as a human but

who was playing Henrietta as a human but

who was playing Henrietta as a human but she doesn't look anything like a Ted

she doesn't look anything like a Ted

she doesn't look anything like a Ted Raimi as Henrietta as a Deadite and so

Raimi as Henrietta as a Deadite and so

Raimi as Henrietta as a Deadite and so there's there's that little jarring

there's there's that little jarring

there's there's that little jarring thing but it's also so quick you don't

thing but it's also so quick you don't

thing but it's also so quick you don't notice we spent an entire probably

notice we spent an entire probably

notice we spent an entire probably probably a five or six hour night on set

probably a five or six hour night on set

probably a five or six hour night on set well ever everything was clear with

well ever everything was clear with

well ever everything was clear with Bruce just doing the sequence where and

Bruce just doing the sequence where and

Bruce just doing the sequence where and he sees the the evil for the first time

he sees the the evil for the first time

he sees the the evil for the first time incarnated in the flesh and the flowers

incarnated in the flesh and the flowers

incarnated in the flesh and the flowers die in the flower pot behind him and his

die in the flower pot behind him and his

die in the flower pot behind him and his hair streaks white and we had built a

hair streaks white and we had built a

hair streaks white and we had built a rig that held Bruce steady so that Tom

rig that held Bruce steady so that Tom

rig that held Bruce steady so that Tom could animate the white streak in his

could animate the white streak in his

could animate the white streak in his hair and we had a propane torch that we

hair and we had a propane torch that we

hair and we had a propane torch that we would intermittently hit the flowers

would intermittently hit the flowers

would intermittently hit the flowers with in the flower pot so they would

with in the flower pot so they would

with in the flower pot so they would slowly wilt and fall over as the as the

slowly wilt and fall over as the as the

slowly wilt and fall over as the as the shot progressed animation just has a

shot progressed animation just has a

shot progressed animation just has a great look that you can't beat and

great look that you can't beat and

great look that you can't beat and there's just something really weird

there's just something really weird

there's just something really weird about it when you start doing it with

about it when you start doing it with

about it when you start doing it with real people

Sam wanted a great scene at the finale

Sam wanted a great scene at the finale of a flying Deadite attacking a bunch of

of a flying Deadite attacking a bunch of

of a flying Deadite attacking a bunch of knights

knights

knights well they had a big long sequence it was

well they had a big long sequence it was

well they had a big long sequence it was like a real Harryhausen battle with a

like a real Harryhausen battle with a

like a real Harryhausen battle with a monster sequence where I was gonna fly

monster sequence where I was gonna fly

monster sequence where I was gonna fly in and attack 20 or so knights on

in and attack 20 or so knights on

in and attack 20 or so knights on horseback and knock a couple of them off

horseback and knock a couple of them off

horseback and knock a couple of them off their horses and then spot a woman

their horses and then spot a woman

their horses and then spot a woman running with a child and it would fly at

running with a child and it would fly at

running with a child and it would fly at him and that's when Ash would show up

him and that's when Ash would show up

him and that's when Ash would show up and with a shotgun and blow it set apart

and with a shotgun and blow it set apart

and with a shotgun and blow it set apart for the exploding head the original idea

for the exploding head the original idea

for the exploding head the original idea was glass plates with paintings

was glass plates with paintings

was glass plates with paintings basically so it was gonna be a series of

basically so it was gonna be a series of

basically so it was gonna be a series of paintings of the head exploding for

paintings of the head exploding for

paintings of the head exploding for reference

reference

reference Tom decide will sculpt some little heads

Tom decide will sculpt some little heads

Tom decide will sculpt some little heads on cantaloupes and we'll take him out in

on cantaloupes and we'll take him out in

on cantaloupes and we'll take him out in the field and I'll set up my super 8

the field and I'll set up my super 8

the field and I'll set up my super 8 camera and film it and we'll shoot him

camera and film it and we'll shoot him

camera and film it and we'll shoot him with a shotgun I think I shot the first

with a shotgun I think I shot the first

with a shotgun I think I shot the first head Tom sets it up neat we load up the

head Tom sets it up neat we load up the

head Tom sets it up neat we load up the shotgun again and he shoots the he

shotgun again and he shoots the he

shotgun again and he shoots the he shoots the second head and the the

shoots the second head and the the

shoots the second head and the the kickback sends the the lever for

kickback sends the the lever for

kickback sends the the lever for cracking the cracking the barrel open

cracking the cracking the barrel open

cracking the cracking the barrel open deep into his hand and as I recall he

deep into his hand and as I recall he

deep into his hand and as I recall he needed six stitches after that I'm not

needed six stitches after that I'm not

needed six stitches after that I'm not sure what happened exactly but Sam

sure what happened exactly but Sam

sure what happened exactly but Sam decided he didn't want his special

decided he didn't want his special

decided he didn't want his special effects guys on the set which I found to

effects guys on the set which I found to

effects guys on the set which I found to be really ominous so when we saw the

be really ominous so when we saw the

be really ominous so when we saw the footage of course it wasn't usable and

footage of course it wasn't usable and

footage of course it wasn't usable and there were only a couple of shots that

there were only a couple of shots that

there were only a couple of shots that were and that's what became of the

were and that's what became of the

were and that's what became of the sequence it goes by so fast no people

sequence it goes by so fast no people

sequence it goes by so fast no people can't even remember it but that was

can't even remember it but that was

can't even remember it but that was going to be my ticket to greater

going to be my ticket to greater

going to be my ticket to greater adventure and stop-motion what a

adventure and stop-motion what a

adventure and stop-motion what a heartbreaker

looking back at working on Evil Dead 2

looking back at working on Evil Dead 2 was a it was a good time and it was a

was a it was a good time and it was a

was a it was a good time and it was a magical time working with animators who

magical time working with animators who

magical time working with animators who I wish we could have continued working

I wish we could have continued working

I wish we could have continued working on animated films like that

on animated films like that

on animated films like that in retrospect I would say that it was

in retrospect I would say that it was

in retrospect I would say that it was one of the most interesting projects fun

one of the most interesting projects fun

one of the most interesting projects fun projects to work on because it seemed to

projects to work on because it seemed to

projects to work on because it seemed to have a you know real creative energy

have a you know real creative energy

have a you know real creative energy about it that did you know with you know

about it that did you know with you know

about it that did you know with you know building the everything was kind of

building the everything was kind of

building the everything was kind of hands-on back then I'd love to see stop

hands-on back then I'd love to see stop

hands-on back then I'd love to see stop motion sequences back in the features it

motion sequences back in the features it

motion sequences back in the features it was fantastic and it was not perfectly

was fantastic and it was not perfectly

was fantastic and it was not perfectly real but it was was wonderfully real if

real but it was was wonderfully real if

real but it was was wonderfully real if you know what I mean and those creatures

you know what I mean and those creatures

you know what I mean and those creatures if they gave them the time and the

if they gave them the time and the

if they gave them the time and the import on the film and didn't cut away

import on the film and didn't cut away

import on the film and didn't cut away to mechanicals and just let the

to mechanicals and just let the

to mechanicals and just let the animation creature be the star I think

animation creature be the star I think

animation creature be the star I think they were very powerful thought it was

they were very powerful thought it was

they were very powerful thought it was neat that it turned into a stop-motion

neat that it turned into a stop-motion

neat that it turned into a stop-motion film

film

film I love stop-motion and there's just

I love stop-motion and there's just

I love stop-motion and there's just something cool about the way it looks

something cool about the way it looks

something cool about the way it looks and I think it works really well for

and I think it works really well for

and I think it works really well for fantasy and would work well for

fantasy and would work well for

fantasy and would work well for Lovecraft and things like that I'm also

Lovecraft and things like that I'm also

Lovecraft and things like that I'm also glad that I'm kind of the guy who

glad that I'm kind of the guy who

glad that I'm kind of the guy who introduced Sam Raimi to stop-motion

introduced Sam Raimi to stop-motion

introduced Sam Raimi to stop-motion animation so I was very happy with that

the first evil that the problems were

the first evil that the problems were tough because we didn't know what we

tough because we didn't know what we

tough because we didn't know what we were doing there was no unions involved

were doing there was no unions involved

were doing there was no unions involved we didn't owe anything we've sort of

we didn't owe anything we've sort of

we didn't owe anything we've sort of made it up and learned a lot only look

made it up and learned a lot only look

made it up and learned a lot only look back later and went wow what a nightmare

back later and went wow what a nightmare

back later and went wow what a nightmare that was second she was a huge nightmare

that was second she was a huge nightmare

that was second she was a huge nightmare so we were like there's got to be a

so we were like there's got to be a

so we were like there's got to be a better way to do this I don't even know

better way to do this I don't even know

better way to do this I don't even know if Sam remembers this or not but is in

if Sam remembers this or not but is in

if Sam remembers this or not but is in fact the case of before he went to go

fact the case of before he went to go

fact the case of before he went to go make Evil Dead 2 he came over he brought

make Evil Dead 2 he came over he brought

make Evil Dead 2 he came over he brought over a bottle of scotch and he and I

over a bottle of scotch and he and I

over a bottle of scotch and he and I drank his bottle of scotch and discussed

drank his bottle of scotch and discussed

drank his bottle of scotch and discussed production because so far he had made

production because so far he had made

production because so far he had made two films that the production was insane

two films that the production was insane

two films that the production was insane I said you know you got to do

I said you know you got to do

I said you know you got to do storyboards or a shot list or something

storyboards or a shot list or something

storyboards or a shot list or something you've got to let everybody in on what

you've got to let everybody in on what

you've got to let everybody in on what it is you intend to do and he did and a

it is you intend to do and he did and a

it is you intend to do and he did and a since then he has become a very big

since then he has become a very big

since then he has become a very big proponent of storyboards I mean his

proponent of storyboards I mean his

proponent of storyboards I mean his story merger hysterical because he draws

story merger hysterical because he draws

story merger hysterical because he draws stick people he would draw storyboards

stick people he would draw storyboards

stick people he would draw storyboards and we were like what is this and he

and we were like what is this and he

and we were like what is this and he goes it's the evil hand it's possessed

goes it's the evil hand it's possessed

goes it's the evil hand it's possessed and we're like you know okay but I guess

and we're like you know okay but I guess

and we're like you know okay but I guess we're not taking these literally but but

we're not taking these literally but but

we're not taking these literally but but what's great is he conveyed his shots

what's great is he conveyed his shots

what's great is he conveyed his shots that way and that's really all a

that way and that's really all a

that way and that's really all a director needs to do he don't need to be

director needs to do he don't need to be

director needs to do he don't need to be a sketch artists he just needs to be

a sketch artists he just needs to be

a sketch artists he just needs to be able to convey the shots and what's

able to convey the shots and what's

able to convey the shots and what's gonna happen Eugene slew gleets was

gonna happen Eugene slew gleets was

gonna happen Eugene slew gleets was actually our initial director of

actually our initial director of

actually our initial director of photography who was the director of

photography who was the director of

photography who was the director of photography you shot all the night stuff

photography you shot all the night stuff

photography you shot all the night stuff and all the stuff in the woods in his

and all the stuff in the woods in his

and all the stuff in the woods in his cabin and of course you know we have

cabin and of course you know we have

cabin and of course you know we have North Carolina crew which is yeah it was

North Carolina crew which is yeah it was

North Carolina crew which is yeah it was 3:30 I'm gonna go home so we have all

3:30 I'm gonna go home so we have all

3:30 I'm gonna go home so we have all this stuff to do time for me to go home

this stuff to do time for me to go home

this stuff to do time for me to go home and that was what we you know run up

and that was what we you know run up

and that was what we you know run up against all the time and we had I guess

against all the time and we had I guess

against all the time and we had I guess what you would call the night of the

what you would call the night of the

what you would call the night of the Long Knives

Long Knives

Long Knives where we were forced to because of their

where we were forced to because of their

where we were forced to because of their sort of uncooperative nature of this

sort of uncooperative nature of this

sort of uncooperative nature of this whole crew we fired in the course of a

whole crew we fired in the course of a

whole crew we fired in the course of a weekend the entire camera crew grip and

weekend the entire camera crew grip and

weekend the entire camera crew grip and electric department because they were

electric department because they were

electric department because they were questioning everything that we did

questioning everything that we did

questioning everything that we did moving the camera here lighting here

moving the camera here lighting here

moving the camera here lighting here lighting there and we're like wait a

lighting there and we're like wait a

lighting there and we're like wait a second guys this isn't normal

second guys this isn't normal

second guys this isn't normal we'll tell you to where to do stuff

we'll tell you to where to do stuff

we'll tell you to where to do stuff where to

where to

where to like don't worry about it it's not your

like don't worry about it it's not your

like don't worry about it it's not your problem and so they it became just a not

problem and so they it became just a not

problem and so they it became just a not a good situation and we were placed a

a good situation and we were placed a

a good situation and we were placed a third of our crew over the course of a

third of our crew over the course of a

third of our crew over the course of a weekend and then Peter Deming came on so

weekend and then Peter Deming came on so

weekend and then Peter Deming came on so by the time we got to the location of

by the time we got to the location of

by the time we got to the location of the sound stage Peter was the DP yeah it

the sound stage Peter was the DP yeah it

the sound stage Peter was the DP yeah it was sort of a surprise to me and I mean

was sort of a surprise to me and I mean

was sort of a surprise to me and I mean I had heard about Sam I had heard about

I had heard about Sam I had heard about

I had heard about Sam I had heard about the first Eagle dead I hadn't actually

the first Eagle dead I hadn't actually

the first Eagle dead I hadn't actually seen it kind of a plane on a Friday and

seen it kind of a plane on a Friday and

seen it kind of a plane on a Friday and was shooting on Monday we talked briefly

was shooting on Monday we talked briefly

was shooting on Monday we talked briefly about the look that he wanted we looked

about the look that he wanted we looked

about the look that he wanted we looked at what had been shot already and just

at what had been shot already and just

at what had been shot already and just sort of took it from there it wasn't a

sort of took it from there it wasn't a

sort of took it from there it wasn't a lot of time to get acclimated it was a

lot of time to get acclimated it was a

lot of time to get acclimated it was a difficult situation where we had big

difficult situation where we had big

difficult situation where we had big demands on the crew and I remember Sam

demands on the crew and I remember Sam

demands on the crew and I remember Sam giving a speech when the new crew came

giving a speech when the new crew came

giving a speech when the new crew came in on Monday and Sam gave him a patent

in on Monday and Sam gave him a patent

in on Monday and Sam gave him a patent speech essentially saying oK you've seen

speech essentially saying oK you've seen

speech essentially saying oK you've seen what we're up against here you've seen

what we're up against here you've seen

what we're up against here you've seen what we have to do you understand the

what we have to do you understand the

what we have to do you understand the challenges here so anybody else who

challenges here so anybody else who

challenges here so anybody else who needs to go go now I knew then it was

needs to go go now I knew then it was

needs to go go now I knew then it was interesting I knew then that Sam was

interesting I knew then that Sam was

interesting I knew then that Sam was willing was gonna do what it has to take

willing was gonna do what it has to take

willing was gonna do what it has to take to make movies because usually when

to make movies because usually when

to make movies because usually when you're into it and you're going you

you're into it and you're going you

you're into it and you're going you don't up rude like a major part of your

don't up rude like a major part of your

don't up rude like a major part of your show this is the tough side of Sam he's

show this is the tough side of Sam he's

show this is the tough side of Sam he's the real sweet guy

the real sweet guy

the real sweet guy real nice guy but you know he's got to

real nice guy but you know he's got to

real nice guy but you know he's got to get his movie made nothing's gonna stop

get his movie made nothing's gonna stop

get his movie made nothing's gonna stop him from getting his movie man no crew

him from getting his movie man no crew

him from getting his movie man no crew member no actor no nothing and I'll tell

member no actor no nothing and I'll tell

member no actor no nothing and I'll tell you the rest of the crew really stepped

you the rest of the crew really stepped

you the rest of the crew really stepped up when they saw that happen they were

up when they saw that happen they were

up when they saw that happen they were like whoa we see that this guy is very

like whoa we see that this guy is very

like whoa we see that this guy is very serious about what he does so everybody

serious about what he does so everybody

serious about what he does so everybody kind of was really quiet and just got to

kind of was really quiet and just got to

kind of was really quiet and just got to work and I remember I think it was the

work and I remember I think it was the

work and I remember I think it was the second day of shooting we did the shot

second day of shooting we did the shot

second day of shooting we did the shot where the camera starts out in the woods

where the camera starts out in the woods

where the camera starts out in the woods and comes rushing towards the back of

and comes rushing towards the back of

and comes rushing towards the back of the cabin and bursts are all through

the cabin and bursts are all through

the cabin and bursts are all through doors and then goes right into Bruce's

doors and then goes right into Bruce's

doors and then goes right into Bruce's mouth and you know Sam wasn't sure about

mouth and you know Sam wasn't sure about

mouth and you know Sam wasn't sure about me I've you know it's like my second day

me I've you know it's like my second day

me I've you know it's like my second day on the film and so he did a couple takes

on the film and so he did a couple takes

on the film and so he did a couple takes you know and so he said you know do you

you know and so he said you know do you

you know and so he said you know do you want to try and I said yeah yeah I want

want to try and I said yeah yeah I want

want to try and I said yeah yeah I want to try it so I think I did about three

to try it so I think I did about three

to try it so I think I did about three or four takes

or four takes

or four takes and when he saw the dailies the next day

and when he saw the dailies the next day

and when he saw the dailies the next day I think he preferred I don't want to

I think he preferred I don't want to

I think he preferred I don't want to speak for Sam but I think he preferred

speak for Sam but I think he preferred

speak for Sam but I think he preferred my takes then we sort of you know

my takes then we sort of you know

my takes then we sort of you know developed a level of trust from that day

developed a level of trust from that day

developed a level of trust from that day forward I mean he really came to play I

forward I mean he really came to play I

forward I mean he really came to play I mean anything Sam could throw at him he

mean anything Sam could throw at him he

mean anything Sam could throw at him he would do Sam has a shot of ash being

would do Sam has a shot of ash being

would do Sam has a shot of ash being swept up by this evil force and it's

swept up by this evil force and it's

swept up by this evil force and it's spinning him around so we had to find a

spinning him around so we had to find a

spinning him around so we had to find a stretch of road that was at least a mile

stretch of road that was at least a mile

stretch of road that was at least a mile or two long probably two miles with no

or two long probably two miles with no

or two long probably two miles with no bends in it that shot took a whole day

bends in it that shot took a whole day

bends in it that shot took a whole day that one shot it was Bruce is basically

that one shot it was Bruce is basically

that one shot it was Bruce is basically strapped into a mechanism that was

strapped into a mechanism that was

strapped into a mechanism that was mounted on top of a crane that we drove

mounted on top of a crane that we drove

mounted on top of a crane that we drove down a road so it was a device that Sam

down a road so it was a device that Sam

down a road so it was a device that Sam could control I can rotate this way

could control I can rotate this way

could control I can rotate this way clockwise counterclockwise fast or slow

clockwise counterclockwise fast or slow

clockwise counterclockwise fast or slow or any special effects guy Vern Hyde

or any special effects guy Vern Hyde

or any special effects guy Vern Hyde would come up and go yeah Bruce what did

would come up and go yeah Bruce what did

would come up and go yeah Bruce what did you have for breakfast this morning I'm

you have for breakfast this morning I'm

you have for breakfast this morning I'm like why do you carry goes well cause

like why do you carry goes well cause

like why do you carry goes well cause it's probably gonna come out and I was

it's probably gonna come out and I was

it's probably gonna come out and I was just curious how much you weight cuz I'm

just curious how much you weight cuz I'm

just curious how much you weight cuz I'm gonna be down below like wow that

gonna be down below like wow that

gonna be down below like wow that doesn't sound good the rig went really

doesn't sound good the rig went really

doesn't sound good the rig went really slow we shot it like two or three frames

slow we shot it like two or three frames

slow we shot it like two or three frames a second so we're moving down this road

a second so we're moving down this road

a second so we're moving down this road being pulled by a crane as I'm going up

being pulled by a crane as I'm going up

being pulled by a crane as I'm going up into the trees and down and around and

into the trees and down and around and

into the trees and down and around and there are people from below with

there are people from below with

there are people from below with branches than would just walk by and

branches than would just walk by and

branches than would just walk by and smack Bruce with the branches and then

smack Bruce with the branches and then

smack Bruce with the branches and then go to the back of the line smack him

go to the back of the line smack him

go to the back of the line smack him with Francesca so that whole scene it's

with Francesca so that whole scene it's

with Francesca so that whole scene it's a ridiculous setup I'm gonna just absurd

a ridiculous setup I'm gonna just absurd

a ridiculous setup I'm gonna just absurd and that was one day we took an entire

and that was one day we took an entire

and that was one day we took an entire day to get five seconds of film the

day to get five seconds of film the

day to get five seconds of film the thing was a Sam has so many tricks you

thing was a Sam has so many tricks you

thing was a Sam has so many tricks you know that we just always needed to quite

know that we just always needed to quite

know that we just always needed to quite you know make sure we understood what

you know make sure we understood what

you know make sure we understood what Sam wanted and what his storyboards were

Sam wanted and what his storyboards were

Sam wanted and what his storyboards were and that we were able to deliver

and that we were able to deliver

and that we were able to deliver whatever those shots were there's like a

whatever those shots were there's like a

whatever those shots were there's like a couple mirror shots you know we had

couple mirror shots you know we had

couple mirror shots you know we had Bruce in the mirror and a makeup and

Bruce in the mirror and a makeup and

Bruce in the mirror and a makeup and then a double you know over his shoulder

then a double you know over his shoulder

then a double you know over his shoulder that that gag which works really well

that that gag which works really well

that that gag which works really well every day was just a challenge to figure

every day was just a challenge to figure

every day was just a challenge to figure out how to accomplish what he needed he

out how to accomplish what he needed he

out how to accomplish what he needed he wants the evil entity it's a POV shot

wants the evil entity it's a POV shot

wants the evil entity it's a POV shot roaming through the woods very wide

roaming through the woods very wide

roaming through the woods very wide angle lens you see everything so you

angle lens you see everything so you

angle lens you see everything so you have to hide it

have to hide it

have to hide it you're seeing everything and it's like a

you're seeing everything and it's like a

you're seeing everything and it's like a fisheye almost it's like a 14 millimeter

fisheye almost it's like a 14 millimeter

fisheye almost it's like a 14 millimeter or something so it's a pretty wide focal

or something so it's a pretty wide focal

or something so it's a pretty wide focal length and you can get away with a lot

length and you can get away with a lot

length and you can get away with a lot of motion you know it's very forgiving

of motion you know it's very forgiving

of motion you know it's very forgiving but yeah I mean just basically handheld

but yeah I mean just basically handheld

but yeah I mean just basically handheld and low to the ground and just running

and low to the ground and just running

and low to the ground and just running so he wants the evil entity to go from

so he wants the evil entity to go from

so he wants the evil entity to go from behind his Oldsmobile break the back

behind his Oldsmobile break the back

behind his Oldsmobile break the back windshield go through the middle of the

windshield go through the middle of the

windshield go through the middle of the car break the front windshield and go

car break the front windshield and go

car break the front windshield and go out across the hood that was called the

out across the hood that was called the

out across the hood that was called the Rambo cam what that was is a cart with

Rambo cam what that was is a cart with

Rambo cam what that was is a cart with wheels that you could push with a long

wheels that you could push with a long

wheels that you could push with a long pole probably 20 feet it was a metal

pole probably 20 feet it was a metal

pole probably 20 feet it was a metal pole with handles at the very end you

pole with handles at the very end you

pole with handles at the very end you mounted the camera at the end and there

mounted the camera at the end and there

mounted the camera at the end and there were these puncture things right by the

were these puncture things right by the

were these puncture things right by the lens of the camera it also had to Teeter

lens of the camera it also had to Teeter

lens of the camera it also had to Teeter because Sam wanted to go from the ground

because Sam wanted to go from the ground

because Sam wanted to go from the ground up over the back of the hood through the

up over the back of the hood through the

up over the back of the hood through the back and through the hood so it had to

back and through the hood so it had to

back and through the hood so it had to raise an elevation so we had to take

raise an elevation so we had to take

raise an elevation so we had to take where we hit the trunk can't use it we

where we hit the trunk can't use it we

where we hit the trunk can't use it we hit the rear view mirror wipe the rear

hit the rear view mirror wipe the rear

hit the rear view mirror wipe the rear view mirror out we tried it actually

view mirror out we tried it actually

view mirror out we tried it actually there were several different attempts to

there were several different attempts to

there were several different attempts to shoot the one shot we had one rig it was

shoot the one shot we had one rig it was

shoot the one shot we had one rig it was failure failure failure this rig ain't

failure failure failure this rig ain't

failure failure failure this rig ain't going to work we wound up shooting it

going to work we wound up shooting it

going to work we wound up shooting it again several weeks later and finally I

again several weeks later and finally I

again several weeks later and finally I remember everyone cheered we finally got

remember everyone cheered we finally got

remember everyone cheered we finally got the one shot that came up the rammed it

the one shot that came up the rammed it

the one shot that came up the rammed it through shoves all the way through it

through shoves all the way through it

through shoves all the way through it worked we were like oh thank God we had

worked we were like oh thank God we had

worked we were like oh thank God we had a lens attachment which is I guess sort

a lens attachment which is I guess sort

a lens attachment which is I guess sort of passe now but actually it's still

of passe now but actually it's still

of passe now but actually it's still effective is it called a mesmerizer and

effective is it called a mesmerizer and

effective is it called a mesmerizer and you can crush things this way or you

you can crush things this way or you

you can crush things this way or you know horizontally or vertically and you

know horizontally or vertically and you

know horizontally or vertically and you can spin it and a lot of those shots

can spin it and a lot of those shots

can spin it and a lot of those shots were done at a frame a second or two

were done at a frame a second or two

were done at a frame a second or two frames a second you know just a really

frames a second you know just a really

frames a second you know just a really radical frame rates days would go by and

radical frame rates days would go by and

radical frame rates days would go by and we wouldn't shoot 24 frames a second and

we wouldn't shoot 24 frames a second and

we wouldn't shoot 24 frames a second and the poor sound guy would just sit in

the poor sound guy would just sit in

the poor sound guy would just sit in despair because really have anything to

despair because really have anything to

despair because really have anything to do sometimes Sam is very specific in the

do sometimes Sam is very specific in the

do sometimes Sam is very specific in the script about which cameras would be used

script about which cameras would be used

script about which cameras would be used which film speed if the film was run in

which film speed if the film was run in

which film speed if the film was run in Reverse so reading it there was no

Reverse so reading it there was no

Reverse so reading it there was no question how he was approaching things

question how he was approaching things

question how he was approaching things and it made it very clear for the camera

and it made it very clear for the camera

and it made it very clear for the camera department and

department and

department and me how it was gonna be done and I don't

me how it was gonna be done and I don't

me how it was gonna be done and I don't think he ever had any concerns or

think he ever had any concerns or

think he ever had any concerns or questions because it was it was clear oh

questions because it was it was clear oh

questions because it was it was clear oh we're doing this is a reverse shot I

we're doing this is a reverse shot I

we're doing this is a reverse shot I know what I need to do both of my best

know what I need to do both of my best

know what I need to do both of my best acting was done in Reverse

acting was done in Reverse

acting was done in Reverse we had a ping-pong ball of type I ball a

we had a ping-pong ball of type I ball a

we had a ping-pong ball of type I ball a hard eyeball on a dowel and then the

hard eyeball on a dowel and then the

hard eyeball on a dowel and then the room reverse camera work I had to it was

room reverse camera work I had to it was

room reverse camera work I had to it was a gelatin eyeball basket so we put the

a gelatin eyeball basket so we put the

a gelatin eyeball basket so we put the eyeball in her mouth and have a string

eyeball in her mouth and have a string

eyeball in her mouth and have a string eye and she'd have to learn how to react

eye and she'd have to learn how to react

eye and she'd have to learn how to react like they pull it out and then she'd

like they pull it out and then she'd

like they pull it out and then she'd have to pretend like she was seeing it

have to pretend like she was seeing it

have to pretend like she was seeing it coming because they were gonna reverse

coming because they were gonna reverse

coming because they were gonna reverse it and it's one of the most effective

it and it's one of the most effective

it and it's one of the most effective scenes in the movie I think one effect I

scenes in the movie I think one effect I

scenes in the movie I think one effect I think that worked really well in some

think that worked really well in some

think that worked really well in some which was not just to makeup effect it

which was not just to makeup effect it

which was not just to makeup effect it was when Cassie Wesley is being raped by

was when Cassie Wesley is being raped by

was when Cassie Wesley is being raped by the tree that was a very clever effect

the tree that was a very clever effect

the tree that was a very clever effect because it involved makeup effects

because it involved makeup effects

because it involved makeup effects artists trick photography a certain

artists trick photography a certain

artists trick photography a certain amount of stunt work just for that one

amount of stunt work just for that one

amount of stunt work just for that one shot but what we ended up doing was

shot but what we ended up doing was

shot but what we ended up doing was shooting it in Reverse we had a fake

shooting it in Reverse we had a fake

shooting it in Reverse we had a fake platform with the ground moving the

platform with the ground moving the

platform with the ground moving the opposite direction I mean that was just

opposite direction I mean that was just

opposite direction I mean that was just a capo you know with twigs and stuff

a capo you know with twigs and stuff

a capo you know with twigs and stuff glued onto it they pulled it really

glued onto it they pulled it really

glued onto it they pulled it really really fast

really fast

really fast they had Cassie suspended above the

they had Cassie suspended above the

they had Cassie suspended above the floor so she was about six inches off

floor so she was about six inches off

floor so she was about six inches off the stage floor and if a camera is

the stage floor and if a camera is

the stage floor and if a camera is filming a buffer which it was it would

filming a buffer which it was it would

filming a buffer which it was it would look like she's being dragged along the

look like she's being dragged along the

look like she's being dragged along the floor of the forest so while that rig

floor of the forest so while that rig

floor of the forest so while that rig was all in place we made her up and we

was all in place we made her up and we

was all in place we made her up and we literally took these latex vines and

literally took these latex vines and

literally took these latex vines and moved them up with KY and we stuffed

moved them up with KY and we stuffed

moved them up with KY and we stuffed them in as far as they would go until

them in as far as they would go until

them in as far as they would go until she was bulging like a chipmunk

and then on action we would just pull

and then on action we would just pull them out so you pull them out and they

them out so you pull them out and they

them out so you pull them out and they start coming off and then when you

start coming off and then when you

start coming off and then when you reverse the film they all look like

reverse the film they all look like

reverse the film they all look like they're going through go so how was it

they're going through go so how was it

they're going through go so how was it cast it was good for me let's put it

cast it was good for me let's put it

cast it was good for me let's put it back in boys just like they were I mean

back in boys just like they were I mean

back in boys just like they were I mean it was kind of like that like that just

it was kind of like that like that just

it was kind of like that like that just made me really enjoy working on the

made me really enjoy working on the

made me really enjoy working on the movie even though it was gruesome out

movie even though it was gruesome out

movie even though it was gruesome out there it wound up being a difficult long

there it wound up being a difficult long

there it wound up being a difficult long shoot but it was not the nightmare shoot

shoot but it was not the nightmare shoot

shoot but it was not the nightmare shoot it was one of our best plan best

it was one of our best plan best

it was one of our best plan best orchestrated shoots I don't think

orchestrated shoots I don't think

orchestrated shoots I don't think anybody raised their voice on that set

anybody raised their voice on that set

anybody raised their voice on that set the entire time was shot I don't

the entire time was shot I don't

the entire time was shot I don't remember anybody getting angry I don't

remember anybody getting angry I don't

remember anybody getting angry I don't remember anybody yelling or screaming

remember anybody yelling or screaming

remember anybody yelling or screaming about anything we just we just had a

about anything we just we just had a

about anything we just we just had a good time I don't think we did a lot of

good time I don't think we did a lot of

good time I don't think we did a lot of reshooting on evil that too but if we

reshooting on evil that too but if we

reshooting on evil that too but if we wanted to it wasn't that big of a deal

wanted to it wasn't that big of a deal

wanted to it wasn't that big of a deal you know because we were sort of this

you know because we were sort of this

you know because we were sort of this concise unit of people I think with a DP

concise unit of people I think with a DP

concise unit of people I think with a DP and Sam that's the most important

and Sam that's the most important

and Sam that's the most important relationship on a set you know I mean he

relationship on a set you know I mean he

relationship on a set you know I mean he ran with that camera

ran with that camera

ran with that camera he had his crew you know rigging up

he had his crew you know rigging up

he had his crew you know rigging up stuff the way Sam wanted it and so I

stuff the way Sam wanted it and so I

stuff the way Sam wanted it and so I think Sam finally got a guy that went

think Sam finally got a guy that went

think Sam finally got a guy that went okay he's willing to go where I'm

okay he's willing to go where I'm

okay he's willing to go where I'm willing to go and obviously they've been

willing to go and obviously they've been

willing to go and obviously they've been working again yeah I was delighted to

working again yeah I was delighted to

working again yeah I was delighted to hear from Sam when he was preparing drag

hear from Sam when he was preparing drag

hear from Sam when he was preparing drag me to hell so we got to reteam on that

me to hell so we got to reteam on that

me to hell so we got to reteam on that and now we're doing how's the great and

and now we're doing how's the great and

and now we're doing how's the great and powerful now I look back on evil ed -

powerful now I look back on evil ed -

powerful now I look back on evil ed - and I think there was a certain naivete

and I think there was a certain naivete

and I think there was a certain naivete in our approach in that there was

in our approach in that there was

in our approach in that there was nothing that we couldn't really do you

nothing that we couldn't really do you

nothing that we couldn't really do you know if we set our minds to it we could

know if we set our minds to it we could

know if we set our minds to it we could do it

we didn't have any interference in the

we didn't have any interference in the editing process because we cut it in

editing process because we cut it in

editing process because we cut it in Michigan but Dino De Laurentiis was part

Michigan but Dino De Laurentiis was part

Michigan but Dino De Laurentiis was part of it and we met with him a couple of

of it and we met with him a couple of

of it and we met with him a couple of times and we had a screening with him

times and we had a screening with him

times and we had a screening with him the couple of times but Sam kept it in

the couple of times but Sam kept it in

the couple of times but Sam kept it in Michigan for that reason is to be able

Michigan for that reason is to be able

Michigan for that reason is to be able to cut his version first they knew

to cut his version first they knew

to cut his version first they knew exactly what they wanted they knew how

exactly what they wanted they knew how

exactly what they wanted they knew how they wanted to have it put together

they wanted to have it put together

they wanted to have it put together Sam knew exactly how the dailies were

Sam knew exactly how the dailies were

Sam knew exactly how the dailies were gonna go I mean he's an incredible

gonna go I mean he's an incredible

gonna go I mean he's an incredible director he was cutting it in his head

director he was cutting it in his head

director he was cutting it in his head while he was shooting it which is you

while he was shooting it which is you

while he was shooting it which is you know really impressive to me I was very

know really impressive to me I was very

know really impressive to me I was very nervous we had a movie ala a stand-up

nervous we had a movie ala a stand-up

nervous we had a movie ala a stand-up movie Ola and they have teeth that go

movie Ola and they have teeth that go

movie Ola and they have teeth that go through that you put the film through

through that you put the film through

through that you put the film through and I accidentally caught my fingers in

and I accidentally caught my fingers in

and I accidentally caught my fingers in the teeth and my fingers went through

the teeth and my fingers went through

the teeth and my fingers went through the teeth and kind of started bleeding a

the teeth and kind of started bleeding a

the teeth and kind of started bleeding a little bit and I got it and I was so

little bit and I got it and I was so

little bit and I got it and I was so bummed out because it was on the film

bummed out because it was on the film

bummed out because it was on the film and I'm laughing and my assistant

and I'm laughing and my assistant

and I'm laughing and my assistant editors of course are getting a big kick

editors of course are getting a big kick

editors of course are getting a big kick out of this and I turn around and Sam

out of this and I turn around and Sam

out of this and I turn around and Sam looks like he's gonna toss it and I said

looks like he's gonna toss it and I said

looks like he's gonna toss it and I said okay and he said yeah you know the sight

okay and he said yeah you know the sight

okay and he said yeah you know the sight of blood really bothers me we didn't

of blood really bothers me we didn't

of blood really bothers me we didn't really want to deal with the ratings

really want to deal with the ratings

really want to deal with the ratings people you know they didn't like us and

people you know they didn't like us and

people you know they didn't like us and we thought that you know showing a film

we thought that you know showing a film

we thought that you know showing a film like that to a bunch of people who are

like that to a bunch of people who are

like that to a bunch of people who are part of the PTA just didn't seem like it

part of the PTA just didn't seem like it

part of the PTA just didn't seem like it was gonna work we didn't try to get any

was gonna work we didn't try to get any

was gonna work we didn't try to get any kind of a rating that was not an issue

kind of a rating that was not an issue

kind of a rating that was not an issue it was just putting the movie together

it was just putting the movie together

it was just putting the movie together and the MPAA

and the MPAA

and the MPAA wanted us to make changes and and Sam

wanted us to make changes and and Sam

wanted us to make changes and and Sam didn't want to make him we were

didn't want to make him we were

didn't want to make him we were contracted to deliver an r-rated movie

contracted to deliver an r-rated movie

contracted to deliver an r-rated movie with Deena but it just it wasn't gonna

with Deena but it just it wasn't gonna

with Deena but it just it wasn't gonna happen we were never gonna get an arm

happen we were never gonna get an arm

happen we were never gonna get an arm and I don't think I don't think anybody

and I don't think I don't think anybody

and I don't think I don't think anybody really cared about that we found this

really cared about that we found this

really cared about that we found this with Evil Dead that if your movies

with Evil Dead that if your movies

with Evil Dead that if your movies unrated some newspapers will not take

unrated some newspapers will not take

unrated some newspapers will not take the ad and some TV stations will not

the ad and some TV stations will not

the ad and some TV stations will not show your two-minute trailer because

show your two-minute trailer because

show your two-minute trailer because they just don't know what it is so we

they just don't know what it is so we

they just don't know what it is so we had to form rosebud release it

had to form rosebud release it

had to form rosebud release it and we actually filmed the logo of the

and we actually filmed the logo of the

and we actually filmed the logo of the rose at the beginning of the movie Sam

rose at the beginning of the movie Sam

rose at the beginning of the movie Sam Raimi photograph that we created this

Raimi photograph that we created this

Raimi photograph that we created this logo like it was this company but we

logo like it was this company but we

logo like it was this company but we created a false distribution company for

created a false distribution company for

created a false distribution company for some strange reason to get around all

some strange reason to get around all

some strange reason to get around all them all this various stuff from the

them all this various stuff from the

them all this various stuff from the future of Evil Dead

- Evil Dead - Dead by Dawn we all snuck

- Evil Dead - Dead by Dawn we all snuck into a test screening Bob Greg and

into a test screening Bob Greg and

into a test screening Bob Greg and myself ran to the theater and waited in

myself ran to the theater and waited in

myself ran to the theater and waited in line and we saw Sam and Rob and we're

line and we saw Sam and Rob and we're

line and we saw Sam and Rob and we're like oh wait they can't see us we'll get

like oh wait they can't see us we'll get

like oh wait they can't see us we'll get kicked out so we kind of hid as they

kicked out so we kind of hid as they

kicked out so we kind of hid as they walked past and we went in and watched

walked past and we went in and watched

walked past and we went in and watched it and afterwards we walked down and we

it and afterwards we walked down and we

it and afterwards we walked down and we saw them we're like that will be Rob

saw them we're like that will be Rob

saw them we're like that will be Rob that was awesome we loved it you know

that was awesome we loved it you know

that was awesome we loved it you know and and it was it was really really fun

and and it was it was really really fun

and and it was it was really really fun you know we really loved the movie I

you know we really loved the movie I

you know we really loved the movie I thought it was incredibly well done it

thought it was incredibly well done it

thought it was incredibly well done it was very fast paced and the audience was

was very fast paced and the audience was

was very fast paced and the audience was really into it when I was there so that

really into it when I was there so that

really into it when I was there so that that was a big you know plus and it made

that was a big you know plus and it made

that was a big you know plus and it made me feel like I think this is really

me feel like I think this is really

me feel like I think this is really gonna work I loved it I thought it was

gonna work I loved it I thought it was

gonna work I loved it I thought it was great though it was very hard to figure

great though it was very hard to figure

great though it was very hard to figure out if you were supposed to laugh or be

out if you were supposed to laugh or be

out if you were supposed to laugh or be scared

scared

scared I remember thinking god there's like a

I remember thinking god there's like a

I remember thinking god there's like a remake of the first movie but it's funny

remake of the first movie but it's funny

remake of the first movie but it's funny like really funny and I was like was he

like really funny and I was like was he

like really funny and I was like was he supposed to be funny because everyone

supposed to be funny because everyone

supposed to be funny because everyone around me is laughing and I'm kind of

around me is laughing and I'm kind of

around me is laughing and I'm kind of going this is supposed to be like this

going this is supposed to be like this

going this is supposed to be like this as the movie started to roll I was

as the movie started to roll I was

as the movie started to roll I was starting to become kind of appalled at

starting to become kind of appalled at

starting to become kind of appalled at what I had worked on and my friend was

what I had worked on and my friend was

what I had worked on and my friend was laughing beside me and I was getting a

laughing beside me and I was getting a

laughing beside me and I was getting a little irate I thought he was making fun

little irate I thought he was making fun

little irate I thought he was making fun and I said why are you laughing at this

and I said why are you laughing at this

and I said why are you laughing at this picture and he goes don't you get it and

picture and he goes don't you get it and

picture and he goes don't you get it and I go oh I don't understand he goes it's

I go oh I don't understand he goes it's

I go oh I don't understand he goes it's a dark comedy the reaction to that movie

a dark comedy the reaction to that movie

a dark comedy the reaction to that movie a really special because they just don't

a really special because they just don't

a really special because they just don't know how to do should I laugh I scream

know how to do should I laugh I scream

know how to do should I laugh I scream I did say that just the only thing that

I did say that just the only thing that

I did say that just the only thing that was sort of that that was not a

was sort of that that was not a

was sort of that that was not a disappointment but it took a while

disappointment but it took a while

disappointment but it took a while before Evil Dead did become you know

before Evil Dead did become you know

before Evil Dead did become you know obviously what it is today I'm fortunate

obviously what it is today I'm fortunate

obviously what it is today I'm fortunate with us like which board I think beat us

with us like which board I think beat us

with us like which board I think beat us you know on opening day which was fine

you know on opening day which was fine

you know on opening day which was fine but I think you know overall and in

but I think you know overall and in

but I think you know overall and in retrospect obviously Evil Dead 2 is done

retrospect obviously Evil Dead 2 is done

retrospect obviously Evil Dead 2 is done very well and I think that goes for a

very well and I think that goes for a

very well and I think that goes for a lot of films you know that stand out

lot of films you know that stand out

lot of films you know that stand out that are that don't maybe are so

that are that don't maybe are so

that are that don't maybe are so different that you know they they don't

different that you know they they don't

different that you know they they don't do as well at the beginning but later on

do as well at the beginning but later on

do as well at the beginning but later on they actually come back and they become

they actually come back and they become

they actually come back and they become these classics you know that people look

these classics you know that people look

these classics you know that people look at it's like you know that was very

at it's like you know that was very

at it's like you know that was very unique nobody can ever pick what I

unique nobody can ever pick what I

unique nobody can ever pick what I called classic is going to be it's the

called classic is going to be it's the

called classic is going to be it's the same thing as a classic it's just either

same thing as a classic it's just either

same thing as a classic it's just either it survives or it doesn't and evil did

it survives or it doesn't and evil did

it survives or it doesn't and evil did to really seems to have shown that it

to really seems to have shown that it

to really seems to have shown that it has legs well I'm always glad when

has legs well I'm always glad when

has legs well I'm always glad when people like these movies so much later

people like these movies so much later

people like these movies so much later but I think hopefully it means that we

but I think hopefully it means that we

but I think hopefully it means that we put enough time and effort into it back

put enough time and effort into it back

put enough time and effort into it back at that time to make something that's

at that time to make something that's

at that time to make something that's not your standard normally eight or nine

not your standard normally eight or nine

not your standard normally eight or nine years after the film came out a friend

years after the film came out a friend

years after the film came out a friend of mine told me she was taking class at

of mine told me she was taking class at

of mine told me she was taking class at NYU and they were spending about six

NYU and they were spending about six

NYU and they were spending about six weeks studying Evil Dead 2 it's

weeks studying Evil Dead 2 it's

weeks studying Evil Dead 2 it's interesting that it continues to come up

interesting that it continues to come up

interesting that it continues to come up no matter where I am no matter what I'm

no matter where I am no matter what I'm

no matter where I am no matter what I'm doing professionally no matter you know

doing professionally no matter you know

doing professionally no matter you know what type of person I'm around somebody

what type of person I'm around somebody

what type of person I'm around somebody around

around

around knows me either recognizes me knows

knows me either recognizes me knows

knows me either recognizes me knows somebody who knows me who knew I did

somebody who knows me who knew I did

somebody who knows me who knew I did that so it's it's been very unexpected

that so it's it's been very unexpected

that so it's it's been very unexpected the coolest thing is 25 years later to

the coolest thing is 25 years later to

the coolest thing is 25 years later to go to work where I work now be on the

go to work where I work now be on the

go to work where I work now be on the air get off the air and have somebody

air get off the air and have somebody

air get off the air and have somebody who just became a production coordinator

who just became a production coordinator

who just became a production coordinator who's 22 years old come up with a

who's 22 years old come up with a

who's 22 years old come up with a sharpie and a blu-ray of Evil Dead 2 and

sharpie and a blu-ray of Evil Dead 2 and

sharpie and a blu-ray of Evil Dead 2 and say dude do you sign that please cool

say dude do you sign that please cool

say dude do you sign that please cool really yeah that's the greatest thing

really yeah that's the greatest thing

really yeah that's the greatest thing got another generation and another

got another generation and another

got another generation and another generation is still enjoying this thing

generation is still enjoying this thing

generation is still enjoying this thing and still getting it they're still along

and still getting it they're still along

and still getting it they're still along with us and I think that's that's that's

with us and I think that's that's that's

with us and I think that's that's that's the coolest thing about the movie it's

the coolest thing about the movie it's

the coolest thing about the movie it's like a great classic rock album or

like a great classic rock album or

like a great classic rock album or something next generation still loves it

something next generation still loves it

something next generation still loves it it's really nice to have been a part of

it's really nice to have been a part of

it's really nice to have been a part of something that has been so embraced by a

something that has been so embraced by a

something that has been so embraced by a genre and I'm kind of tickled 25 years

genre and I'm kind of tickled 25 years

genre and I'm kind of tickled 25 years later Evil Dead 2 is still alive and

later Evil Dead 2 is still alive and

later Evil Dead 2 is still alive and kicking and people are still loving it

kicking and people are still loving it

kicking and people are still loving it we gave our all forth you know I worked

we gave our all forth you know I worked

we gave our all forth you know I worked my ass off on that film for six months

my ass off on that film for six months

my ass off on that film for six months and uh put in a lot of effort and we

and uh put in a lot of effort and we

and uh put in a lot of effort and we knew it all pay off in a big way we

knew it all pay off in a big way we

knew it all pay off in a big way we didn't know how big but I think

didn't know how big but I think

didn't know how big but I think everybody involved really gave it so

everybody involved really gave it so

everybody involved really gave it so much heart and soul that is they

much heart and soul that is they

much heart and soul that is they actually think it's Sam's best movie

actually think it's Sam's best movie

actually think it's Sam's best movie that but that's my own personal thing it

that but that's my own personal thing it

that but that's my own personal thing it had everything I wouldn't want no it was

had everything I wouldn't want no it was

had everything I wouldn't want no it was funny it was scary and had energy you

funny it was scary and had energy you

funny it was scary and had energy you had a star in the making with Bruce and

had a star in the making with Bruce and

had a star in the making with Bruce and you had a great visual style creatively

you had a great visual style creatively

you had a great visual style creatively you know it was great too because we you

you know it was great too because we you

you know it was great too because we you know we were trying to do that again a

know we were trying to do that again a

know we were trying to do that again a small budgeted movie and I thought you

small budgeted movie and I thought you

small budgeted movie and I thought you know with the style that he shot it in

know with the style that he shot it in

know with the style that he shot it in and everything all the gags worked

and everything all the gags worked

and everything all the gags worked perfectly emotionally no it wasn't about

perfectly emotionally no it wasn't about

perfectly emotionally no it wasn't about perfection we weren't making a perfect

perfection we weren't making a perfect

perfection we weren't making a perfect film you know certainly there's tons of

film you know certainly there's tons of

film you know certainly there's tons of mistakes and hiccups through the whole

mistakes and hiccups through the whole

mistakes and hiccups through the whole film that it adds

film that it adds

film that it adds the fun of it there's something about

the fun of it there's something about

the fun of it there's something about imperfections that work for film it's

imperfections that work for film it's

imperfections that work for film it's something actually that I think a lot

something actually that I think a lot

something actually that I think a lot about and how now now how it is nowadays

about and how now now how it is nowadays

about and how now now how it is nowadays where movies are tailored to be perfect

where movies are tailored to be perfect

where movies are tailored to be perfect on every regards and to me that makes

on every regards and to me that makes

on every regards and to me that makes them feel synthetic and and not organic

them feel synthetic and and not organic

them feel synthetic and and not organic by any means they've been so overworked

by any means they've been so overworked

by any means they've been so overworked and overworked and polished and polished

and overworked and polished and polished

and overworked and polished and polished and polished that that they don't feel

and polished that that they don't feel

and polished that that they don't feel they don't feel like real movies it's

they don't feel like real movies it's

they don't feel like real movies it's one of those things that that I think

one of those things that that I think

one of those things that that I think that Hollywood would love to find the

that Hollywood would love to find the

that Hollywood would love to find the formula for that but it's very elusive

formula for that but it's very elusive

formula for that but it's very elusive it's just it's just like all the planets

it's just it's just like all the planets

it's just it's just like all the planets seem to line up it felt like a bunch of

seem to line up it felt like a bunch of

seem to line up it felt like a bunch of kids making a movie in in their basement

kids making a movie in in their basement

kids making a movie in in their basement it really did and and that's what made

it really did and and that's what made

it really did and and that's what made it really fun you know it wasn't there

it really fun you know it wasn't there

it really fun you know it wasn't there was no high-pressure there wasn't

was no high-pressure there wasn't

was no high-pressure there wasn't yelling there wasn't you know studio

yelling there wasn't you know studio

yelling there wasn't you know studio involvement there wasn't you know 500

involvement there wasn't you know 500

involvement there wasn't you know 500 people sitting on set telling you what

people sitting on set telling you what

people sitting on set telling you what it should be it was Sam Raimi directing

it should be it was Sam Raimi directing

it should be it was Sam Raimi directing a movie with about a bunch of goofy

a movie with about a bunch of goofy

a movie with about a bunch of goofy stuff with a bunch of goofy guys and it

stuff with a bunch of goofy guys and it

stuff with a bunch of goofy guys and it was really really fun so even that - of

was really really fun so even that - of

was really really fun so even that - of all the Evil Dead movies still is the

all the Evil Dead movies still is the

all the Evil Dead movies still is the closest to my heart for being a

closest to my heart for being a

closest to my heart for being a functioning set functioning production

functioning set functioning production

functioning set functioning production we were better at what we could do and

we were better at what we could do and

we were better at what we could do and it wasn't a disaster and it made money

it kind of got me started in my own

it kind of got me started in my own genre path it always evil that - always

genre path it always evil that - always

genre path it always evil that - always leaves a good taste in my mouth

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