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-[theme music]
-[static on TV]
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♪
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♪
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[theme music concludes]
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[intriguing synthesizer music]
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♪
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♪
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Anything?
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-It's never the first one.
-[walkie-talkie static]
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You said you saw
a stroller here?
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Yeah, a bunch of moms.
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Like a walking group
or something.
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-[walkie-talkie static]
-[baby fussing]
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[ominous music]
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[walkie-talkie static]
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[baby fussing]
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CEDRIC: This little one looks...
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delicious.
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-[woman screams]
-[gasps]
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-[woman yelling]
-[gasps]
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KURT: Go, go, go!
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[fast-paced synthesizer music]
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[grunts]
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[walkie-talkie static]
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[walkie-talkie static]
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-[baby crying]
-[chuckles softly]
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-How should I carve this child?
-[walkie-talkie beeps, static]
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What are you willing to give me?
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-[walkie-talkie beeps]
-Please, please, please! [sobs]
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Anything! Anything!
I'll do anything!
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Please just don't hurt my baby!
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[exhales softly]
Dude, we should go.
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Before, you know,
she figures it out.
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[sighs]
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[walkie-talkie beeps, static]
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-[pensive music]
-[both laugh]
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Oh, please!
Please don't hurt my baby!
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I'll suck your dick
as long as you let her go!
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[both laugh]
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-Michelle likes you.
-No.
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Then why does she go to
all the lacrosse games?
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Because she likes lacrosse?
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She's got a nice rack.
You should talk to her.
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If you like her so much,
maybe you should go talk to her.
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Are you daring me
to talk to a girl?
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[scoffs]
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-Hey.
-Hm?
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Would you go talk to her?
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-What?
-Your cousin's a pussy, dude.
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-He wouldn't talk to Michelle.
-That's not true.
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Oh, yeah? Who do you like?
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-I dunno.
-Bitch!
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-Case closed.
-No, that's not...
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It's just, I haven't really
thought about it. [chuckles]
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It's cool, dude. Whatever.
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Leave him alone.
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Uh, I should probably get going.
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-Oh, come on, man!
-Um, look, I'm tired
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and I have to wake up
super early tomorrow, so--
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"I should be getting home,"
he said.
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"I'm a fuckin' bitch
and have a bedtime."
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Look, it's been a long night,
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and I really appreciate
you guys asking--
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You're not allowed to leave.
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Still gotta hit one more house.
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[unsettling music]
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♪
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Perfect.
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[breathes heavily]
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[walkie-talkie static]
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Try rescanning.
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-[baby cooing]
-Let's see what you got.
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[chuckles]
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[baby fussing]
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I'm watching your baby.
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[scoffs]
"I'm watching your baby"?
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What are you,
a fucking babysitter?
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Doesn't matter, no one answered.
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Yeah, 'cause it hardcore sucked.
Go again.
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CEDRIC: Wait, wait, wait,
say something like,
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"I'm gonna carve out
this one's eyeballs."
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-I dunno.
-"I'm gonna take
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this newborn's skin
and wear it as a shroud."
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Doesn't make any sense.
Babies don't have
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-that much skin.
-Just say you're gonna force
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Mommy and Daddy to watch
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while you kill
their fucking kid.
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I... I don't want to say that.
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Why not? You a bitch?
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-No.
-You're just saying it.
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Ced and I aren't gonna make you
break in and actually do it.
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You know that, right?
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Uh, yeah. Yeah.
[chuckles nervously]
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-[baby fussing]
-[walkie-talkie static]
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-I'm standing over the crib.
-[ominous music]
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Just watching.
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Waiting to...
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-eat your child.
-[sighs]
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You are fucking terrible
at this.
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This is the last time
we bring your bitch-ass out.
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This kid fuckin' sucks.
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[sniffles]
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[baby fussing]
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-[stabbing sounds]
-[baby crying]
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[ominous music]
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[baby gurgles]
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[walkie-talkie static]
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-Hello?
-[walkie-talkie beeps]
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INTRUDER: You're the ones
being watched now!
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Run!
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[intruder laughs]
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[tense music]
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INTRUDERS: [over walkie-talkie]
You're gonna have to move
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a lot faster than that!
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Oh, shit!
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INTRUDER: [over walkie-talkie]
You think those woods are safe?
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Maybe I'll show you
where I buried my bodies.
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INTRUDER: [over walkie-talkie]
You're all alone now.
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[tense music]
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[breathes heavily]
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[breathes shakily]
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Holy shit! [breathes shakily]
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[walkie-talkie static]
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INTRUDER: [over walkie-talkie]
Sweet dreams.
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[gasps, grunts softly]
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[eerie music]
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Please stop. I'm sorry, okay?
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[walkie-talkie beeps]
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INTRUDER: [over walkie-talkie]
But we're having so much fun!
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-Kurt, Cedric, is this a trick?
-[walkie-talkie beeps]
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It's Juan, over.
Are you guys on?
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[walkie-talkie beeps]
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Hey guys, are you on?
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Look, I know I'm not supposed
to use your private channel
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for whatever,
but this is an emergency.
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-[shudders]
-[walkie-talkie beeps]
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[breathes shakily]
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-[buttons beeping]
-[Juan grunts softly]
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[walkie-talkie static]
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-[alarm beeping]
-[breathes deeply]
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JUAN'S MOM: Hey, night owl.
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JUAN: [sighs]
You heard me come in.
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JUAN'S MOM: Yup.
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Sorry, Mom. [sighs]
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JUAN'S MOM:
You know what they say.
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Fly high with the eagles
at night--
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Pick shit with the chickens
in the morning, I know. [sighs]
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[chuckles] Did you have fun?
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Yeah. Uh, it was great.
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What'd you guys do?
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Pfft, you know,
biked around, just hung out.
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-Cedric was nice?
-JUAN: Yeah.
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He actually mentioned
doing something today too,
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'cause of all the fun.
[chuckles]
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-Really?
-JUAN: Mm-hmm.
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I... I think maybe
we're seeing a movie.
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If you say so.
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I should probably go, actually.
[inhales sharply]
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-JUAN'S MOM: Juan.
-JUAN: Mm-hmm?
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If you're going to the movies,
you probably need some money.
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Tell everyone I say hi.
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JUAN: I will.
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-[eerie music]
-[door opens]
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MAN 1: There you go.
MAN 2: Ooh, nice one.
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Hey, there.
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[ominous music]
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WOMAN: I can't believe something
like this could happen.
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[indistinct voices echo]
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WOMAN: What happened?
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MAN: Someone broke
in last night.
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Killed the whole family.
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-WOMAN: Oh my God.
-MAN: So much blood.
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-WOMAN: [gasps] Oh my goodness.
-[shudders]
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[retches]
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[breathes shakily]
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Okay, look,
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I said I'm... I'm sorry
about last night, but...
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please, just-- I need you
to answer me. [shudders]
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[walkie-talkie beeps]
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JUAN: Ced, are you there?
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[sinister music]
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JUAN: Please, dude...
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Please, I... I just
need you to answer me.
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[walkie-talkie beeps]
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He's still sleeping, loser.
Do you know what time it is?
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-[walkie-talkie beeps]
-[sniffles]
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Okay, Kurt.
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-Look, you need to listen to me.
-[walkie-talkie beeps]
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-[chuckles] Are you crying?
-Just stop!
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Dude, please, just listen.
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That guy from last night...
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he... he killed those people.
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I... I went by there today
and there were body bags.
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Shut up.
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I can't talk about this here.
Meet me at Denbro Park.
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[walkie-talkie beeps]
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[suspenseful music]
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-[baby crying]
-[speaks indistinctly]
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[shudders]
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[swing creaking]
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[pensive music]
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[indistinct chatter]
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[ominous music]
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[music intensifies]
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-CHILD: Daddy!
-DAD: Hey, how are you?
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How you doing?
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-[child laughing]
-[shudders]
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DAD: Put 'er there.
Good to see you.
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[static on walkie-talkie]
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-Kurt. Where are you?
-[walkie-talkie chirps]
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[static crackling]
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-[walkie-talkie chirps]
-Kurt?
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-[walkie-talkie chirps]
-[static crackling]
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[suspenseful music]
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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[music intensifies]
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♪
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[static crackling]
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♪
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[static crackling]
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♪
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[high-pitched ringing]
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[breathing frantically]
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[ringing continues]
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[frantic breathing continues]
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[crickets chirping]
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[eerie, unsettling music]
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♪
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♪
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[skids]
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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[ominous music]
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♪
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♪
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[dissonant noises]
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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JUAN: Mom, I need to talk
to you about something!
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[breathing shakily]
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[ominous music]
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♪
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Mom, are you home?
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[suspenseful music]
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♪
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Mom?
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♪
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[music intensifies]
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♪
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Mom?
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MAN: [over monitor]
She can't hear you.
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♪
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♪
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MAN: Go ahead, Juan!
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Say hello to Mommy!
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[Juan screams]
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[static crackling]
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[crickets chirping]
COP: [police radio] 10-54.
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We got the body of a young male,
multiple stab wounds.
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COP 2: 10-54.
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We found a severed head
here at Denbro Park.
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COP: Hey, we got another 10-54.
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We got a woman who,
uh... fuck, man, it's bad.
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Oh, she's just...
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in pieces.
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[static crackling]
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DAVID: Welcome back
from The Void.
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Thanks for watching.
I'm David Cummings,
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the creator and host
of the NoSleep podcast.
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And today we're joined
by author Manen Lyset,
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who wrote the NoSleep story,
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"I Used to Hack Baby Monitors,
One Night I Learned My Lesson,"
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which we adapted
into the episode titled,
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"Fixed frequency."
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Welcome, Manen.
Thanks for joining us today.
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-Hi, thanks for having me.
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-So, Manen,
you have been a part
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of the NoSleep
subreddit community
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for many years now.
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What was it that initially
drew you to that community
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and writing horror stories?
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-One of the big things
that I do is,
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I'll just be walking around
in my normal life
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and I will see something
and I will think to myself,
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"How hilarious would it be
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"if I turned this into
a horror story?"
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One example of that is,
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I was on the bus one day
and I saw this pigeon, like,
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walking off and on the curb,
and I thought to myself,
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"What would happen
if the wheel [chuckles]
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"rolled over it
and it was hollow inside?"
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[both laugh]
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So I ended up writing a story
where pigeons weren't real.
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Or sometimes it's just,
a colleague tells me
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something that happened
in their life and I'm like,
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"Can I turn this into
something that is horrific?"
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It just comes out of nowhere.
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-And so, you can take the--
the banal, if you will,
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the ordinary,
and turn it into horror.
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Is it just kind of
the inspiration
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that kind of comes
from the object,
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or do you kind of have to
work it and build it up
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into the-- the frightening?
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-Usually it's-- it's-- it's--
I see the object
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and suddenly I have an idea
for a horror version of it.
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Sometimes it's...
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I have a literal wheel online
sometimes I will just spin,
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and it's a bunch
of random objects,
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and whatever it lands on,
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I have to write
a horror story about it.
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Uh, so in that case,
well, I just--
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I think to myself,
"What is the worst possible
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"scenario that could happen
with... a stapler?"
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You know,
or pencil, or whatever.
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And then I just start writing.
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-It just comes from that
twisted mind of yours. [laughs]
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-It's fun.
I like to make things creepy.
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-It's great. How did the story
"Fixed frequency"
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come to your mind?
What was it about a baby monitor
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that inspired horror
in your mind?
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-This was genuinely my coworker
who was telling me that um,
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on her baby monitor,
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she was hearing the neighbour
singing to her child,
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and the-- the neighbour was
singing to her own child
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and she was hearing it
on her monitor.
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So I told myself,
"This would be a great story
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"to-- to-- to turn into
a creepy version of it."
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And um, I-- I had heard a lot of
stories about haunted monitors,
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demonic children
seen through a monitor,
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haunted rooms seen through
a monitor, and I just--
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I wanted to turn
the trope on the head,
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of the protagonist be...
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basically the antagonist
in all those stories,
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minus the supernatural stuff.
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-So, a story like
"Fixed frequency,"
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we have a group of young boys
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and they're getting their kicks
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pranking these
unsuspecting mothers.
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Uh, what is it about the idea
that you've got these--
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these boys and they're--
they're just out goofing around.
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You know, they're not really
recognizing the consequences
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of their actions.
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Did you-- Did you want
to present them
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as kind of villainous
in what they were doing?
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Or is it more just,
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"Boys will be boys,"
just playing pranks.
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-Yeah, it's more of a-- a
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"Teen kids will be teens,"
you know? Um,
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This happens
with every generation,
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whether it's Ding-Dong Ditch
or crank calls
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or licking ice cream and putting
it back on the shelf,
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which is absolutely
disgusting, uh,
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there-- there will always
be troublemakers,
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they will always do something.
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Every generation has its own
way of doing a prank,
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and this was
the one that I went with.
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-With all your experience
on the subreddit, is there--
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are there a few things that
you could identify as
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something that would absolutely
make a NoSleep story great?
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Like, is there
a certain plot style,
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is there a certain
writing style that--
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that you know that this is
gonna be a great NoSleep story?
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-Yes, um,
I would say brevity,
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um, a very uh...
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conversational writing style--
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Like a--
a very casual writing style,
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you know, like you're telling
a horror story at a campfire,
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not so much the big,
sprawling narratives.
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There's a time and a place
for everything,
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but I think that on NoSleep,
if you have uh, you know,
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"David looked at the creature,
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"his eyes twinkling with--
with the fire of passion,
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"and he said this
and that," like...
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these are just meant
to be stories
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that regular humans
have experienced,
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and the more casual you are,
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the easier it is for people
to stay immersed.
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Also, we love plot twists.
We love um, a punch at the end.
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-That seems to be a big theme,
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is the-- the great horror twists
that come up at the end.
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And do you find that--
do you sort of--
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when you're writing a story,
do you find that you write--
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you come up with a twist that
you want to work into a story
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and work backwards?
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Or do you kind of maybe work--
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you start the story
and you think,
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"Oh, here's a twist
I'm gonna use at the end."
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00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:58,643
-A little bit of both.
It depends on the story.
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Some of them I'll know
right from the start,
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and some others I'll be
halfway through writing
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and I'll be telling
my friend about it,
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00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,686
and then it'll suddenly click,
I'll be like, "Oh my gosh,
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00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:09,320
"I have the best idea
for the ending!"
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00:28:09,754 --> 00:28:12,090
-[chuckles] That's awesome.
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00:28:12,857 --> 00:28:16,027
So, you have this great idea
about a baby monitor
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that's-- that's
playing strange audio.
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What was it--
were there any challenges?
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What came to your mind
that you thought,
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00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:25,303
"Well, I don't know
if this is the direction
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00:28:25,303 --> 00:28:26,571
"I want to go with this story"?
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00:28:26,838 --> 00:28:29,307
Or did it just kind of
flow all out together?
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00:28:29,307 --> 00:28:32,043
Did it-- Was it sort of
fully formed in your mind?
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I would say I had
a little bit of trouble
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making sure that the protagonist
got his comeuppance
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00:28:38,083 --> 00:28:40,118
without falling
into the same tropes
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that I was trying to avoid
while writing the story.
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So nothing too supernatural,
nothing too outlandish.
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00:28:46,357 --> 00:28:49,661
Uh, obviously a serial killer
might be a little bit outlandish
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but I like to think
that at the end of the story,
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when we hear
the voice on the monitor,
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00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:58,269
it could be the psycho killer
going to kill him,
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00:28:58,803 --> 00:29:00,739
or it could just be
the next generation of kids
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00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:02,774
messing around with a--
with a baby monitor.
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00:29:03,374 --> 00:29:06,077
Manen, thank you so much
for joining us today,
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and thank you for being with us,
and keep up the great writing.
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00:29:10,148 --> 00:29:11,449
Thank you so much. I--
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00:29:11,449 --> 00:29:13,618
I am so grateful
for the opportunity,
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00:29:13,618 --> 00:29:15,920
and I am so excited to see
the final product.
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00:29:16,821 --> 00:29:18,123
Thanks for watching.
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00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:21,359
We look forward to seeing you
next time in The Void.
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