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A cheese mold still happens,
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femicide still occurs.
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A lot of times the
customs and traditions that we have
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from our heritage
can also like marginalize
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and hold us back from
being able to acquire the rights
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that we
deserve as human beings.
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Sin derechos
no hay paraíso, es
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una serie que
yo empecé en el 2021.
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Comenzó
conociendo amigas que yo
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ya tenían por
Instagram en Oaxaca.
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La serie en sí no
es acerca de la musheidad,
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es acerca del tercer
género en todo el estado de Oaxaca,
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porque para
uno considerarse mushe
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tiene que ser
delismo de juchitan.
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Aquí al frente tenemos
una foto de mi amiga de ORA.
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De ORA aquí
estaba cumpliendo sus 60
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años, o estaba
punta cumplir 60 años.
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Pero la pieza
que tiene puesta es
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diseñada por el
artesano Roberto Jiménez,
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que es su pareja de 28 años.
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Juntos ellos
han construido estas
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piezas para
artistas como Lil Adowns,
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otros cantantes famosos,
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pero en sí
cuando yo al principio le
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comenté a ORA que
quería hacer este proyecto,
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ORA me dijo que ella
nunca había tenido la oportunidad de
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ponerse uno de
sus propios trajes.
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Cuando hicimos la comisión
para este traje lo hicieron más
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grande de lo
que debería de ser,
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porque es como darle un
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rendimiento a la
identidad de ella misma,
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quien es
afrodescendiente y quien es ella misma.
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Es líder de la comunidad
y para mí siempre fue importante
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incluir el
aspecto de la iglesia,
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por eso fue que la
fotografiamos al frente de la iglesia de
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Santo Domingo
en la ciudad de Oaxaca.
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Y Naomi aquí me dice
que es la reina, ¿verdad?
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Naomi, este año va a
ser coronada la reina de las
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auténticas
intrépidas buscadores del peligro.
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En sí, Naomi tiene una
relación muy especial con la muerte.
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Queríamos traer
el barro negro, que es un
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artisanía clásica de
las costumbres de Oaxaca.
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Queríamos también traer
un poquito de la sensualidad, lo
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que es ser una persona mushe,
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porque muchas veces el
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eroticismo, la
musheidad no se llevan a par
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por los
estímas que hay cuando
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se trata de
el trabajo sexual.
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Para esta foto
en particular, queríamos
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representar un poco
también del comercialismo
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que se puede
hacer con una imagen de
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una persona que
no es eurocentrista.
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¿Qué es esta pieza?
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Caricia fue
la primera mushe que
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ganó una carrera
política en su pueblo.
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Caricia, cuando la conocí,
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estábamos en una
conferencia de prensa
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que estábamos
hablando de cómo...
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what to do in case that you
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have how to
report a hate crime.
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But, Karissa was
the first person to ever
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get married also
as mousheh in the church,
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dressed in white, which
usually moushes are not allowed to
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go to church when presenting.
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Once a year during the big
festive party that they throw in
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November is
when the church will
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allow you to come to
church dressed as mousheh, but for the
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most part, the
Catholic Church just
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doesn't allow that. But,
Karissa being who she is in her
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town, she was
able not only to win her
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election as a grassroots
campaign, but also she was able to
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get married as
mousheh when presenting.
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So she's
definitely a trailblazer. And
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we are right now
in your space here. Yeah.
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So this is the BX Arts
Factory. We have about 10 to 11
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other artists
and we have a residency
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every single three
months. We're one of the few, I guess,
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here in the
Bronx, especially in the
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South Bronx. So we're
definitely about nurturing the
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artists, the art
from our community, especially
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black,
indigenous, and people of color.
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François y Midsari,
ambas vienen de Juchitán.
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La diferencia es que François
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fue nacida y
criada en Juchitán
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y el residente de Juchitán.
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Midsari, cuando
estaba más joven, le
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tocó mudarse en
la Ciudad de México.
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Pues la diferencia es que
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muchas
personas tienen que emigrar.
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Lo importante para la
mujer juchiteca es que las mushes
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sean
auténticamente de Juchitán.
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A mí lo que me gusta
de esta foto es que está una
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representación
de la mujer juchiteca,
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que es François y
también está Midsari, que también es
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juchiteca, pero
también es inmigrante.
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Las dos convienen y vuelven a
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llegar juntas al
mismo de Tejuan Tepec
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para la
fiesta de las auténticas
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intrepidas
buscadoras de peligro.
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Es una muy bonita
reconciliación en esta foto para mí.
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Machete al Machote es un
retrato de mi amiga, Shanery.
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La primera
vez que yo llegué a
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Oaxaca empezamos
a conversar sobre mesa
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acerca de muchas
de las cosas que están
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enfrentando las
personas transsexuales
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y las personas mushes y las
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personas de
género no conforme en Oaxaca,
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que son parecidas a las
que también se reconocen acá.
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Sigue siendo un feminicidio.
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En esta foto lo que queríamos
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hacer es darle
la oportunidad a Shanery
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de tener ese impacto de
rebeldía utilizando el machete,
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pero a la
misma vez decirle en su
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imagen que aunque
uno sea presente femenino,
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no quiere decir
que no tenga la sustancia
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para uno levantar
armas cuando se necesite,
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para uno puede
se defender a uno mismo.
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En otras palabras, es
decir que las mujeres no somos
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débiles solo por ser mujeres.
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El nombre de
Machete al Machote viene de
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protestas que hubo
en la ciudad de Oaxaca.
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El nombre estaba
escrito en las paredes de Zócalo.
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Entonces yo
dije no hay mejor nombre
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para esta foto que
pues Machete al Machote.
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Sapotec
language has no gender.
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He was saying that the
Western media has not covered.
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So for the most part,
Western media has covered La Muche
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d'Arre as being
some sort of paradise.
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Since the Sapotec has no
binary in it, a lot of times they
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feel like that
because there is a place,
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there has been a place
for Muches in the community that
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there's some
sort of paradise.
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But that's
completely far from the truth
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because, you know,
machismo still happens,
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femicide still occurs.
A lot of times the customs and
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traditions that
we have from our heritage
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can also like
marginalize and hold us back
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from being able to
acquire the rights that
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we deserve as human
beings. How do you, I know that you
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mentioned that it was through
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Instagram that you started
getting interested, but tell me
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a story, anyone
that contacted you that
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led you to this amazing
and beautiful project. Yeah, so
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Shanani was
the first person that I
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met through Instagram. On
my first trip, I actually went
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and we
started discussing about,
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you know, what we
wanted to shoot. We needed a makeup
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artist, you
know, big production.
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And so Shanani
introduced me to her friend Amitai. And
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Amitai was
the reigning queen of
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Las Authenticas
Intrepidas Buscadres de Pelido that year.
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She's also an
amazing drag artist and she's
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an amazing makeup artist.
When we got together, we started
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thinking about
location. They introduced
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me to their friend Mario
Kome Oaxaca, who is an amazing
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tour guide and a
chef. And anyone that
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goes to Oaxaca, I highly
recommend that you visit Mario
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Kome Oaxaca. And
Mario gave us essentially
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the location of the
field of the magué. Together, the
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three of us
essentially had a great afternoon
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just talking about what
it's like to be third gender, what
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it's like to
be moushe, what it's
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like to also not be
moushe. Because for example, Mario is
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not from
Huchitan, Mario is from the
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mixteca, and Mario doesn't
claim that title of moushe, but
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still faces
the same lack of rights
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that everybody else has.
Yeah, so that's how kind of like
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the ball started
rolling. And then after
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that, I was invited to
come to the annual party and actual
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Huchitan. And
that's when I came back
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on my second trip to go
and actually visit the girls in
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Huchitan. From
that trip, they actually
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invited me to come a third
time to go present some of these
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photographs
in Huchitan, which is
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coming up in November.
That's beautiful. Thank you for
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giving us a chain
of your time. No, I am
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so grateful that I took
the opportunity to come to see you.
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And I'm glad
that you reached to me
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and gave us this beautiful
opportunity before the time that
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it came down. I
am very proud of your
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effort. Your art is
amazing. Everybody should see it. Thank
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you for giving
us a chain. So like,
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just gracias.
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