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Thank you! 4 00:00:11,188 --> 00:00:13,121 Spike Feresten: What is it about Elon Musk? 5 00:00:13,155 --> 00:00:15,221 He's at once a genius and a fool. 6 00:00:15,255 --> 00:00:18,055 (audience cheering) 7 00:00:18,088 --> 00:00:20,288 Narrator: He is quite possibly the most 8 00:00:20,321 --> 00:00:23,155 polarizing public figure in business today. 9 00:00:23,188 --> 00:00:25,521 Elon Musk: Doing a startup is, at the beginning, 10 00:00:25,555 --> 00:00:27,688 it's like eating glass and staring into the abyss. 11 00:00:27,721 --> 00:00:29,788 Tim Higgins: It depends on the day, he's either the hero 12 00:00:29,821 --> 00:00:31,121 or the villain. 13 00:00:31,155 --> 00:00:33,588 And that's why he's such a complicated figure. 14 00:00:34,221 --> 00:00:35,521 Narrator: Love him or hate him, 15 00:00:35,555 --> 00:00:37,688 Elon Musk is in a relentless pursuit 16 00:00:37,721 --> 00:00:39,321 to change life on Earth 17 00:00:39,355 --> 00:00:42,355 by giving us a chance to leave it behind. 18 00:00:42,388 --> 00:00:44,255 - Lift off! - And lift off! 19 00:00:45,255 --> 00:00:46,821 Elon Musk: I've thought about what are the things that are 20 00:00:46,855 --> 00:00:48,455 most gonna affect the future of humanity? 21 00:00:48,488 --> 00:00:50,855 And the three things I came up with were the internet, 22 00:00:50,888 --> 00:00:53,321 transitioning to a sustainable energy economy, 23 00:00:53,355 --> 00:00:55,455 and the third was space exploration. 24 00:00:55,488 --> 00:00:58,221 Eric Berger: He feels as long as humans are on one planet, 25 00:00:58,255 --> 00:01:01,021 we're vulnerable to all sorts of catastrophes. 26 00:01:01,055 --> 00:01:04,455 - Three...Two...One...Zero! 27 00:01:04,488 --> 00:01:06,588 - We're at Stage One! - Good lift off indication. 28 00:01:06,621 --> 00:01:07,855 (rocket roaring) 29 00:01:07,888 --> 00:01:09,588 We have liftoff! 30 00:01:09,621 --> 00:01:13,055 Tim Urban: To Elon, it is so obvious that you have to try 31 00:01:13,088 --> 00:01:15,621 to keep the light of human consciousness alive. 32 00:01:15,655 --> 00:01:18,588 And it would be so sad, so utterly heartbreaking if it, 33 00:01:18,621 --> 00:01:20,388 if it went out like a candle. 34 00:01:20,421 --> 00:01:22,121 Narrator: Bullied as a teen, 35 00:01:22,155 --> 00:01:24,755 young Elon escaped by immersing himself 36 00:01:24,788 --> 00:01:27,588 in fantastical stories about the future. 37 00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:30,088 Anna Crowley: It becomes part of a bigger inquiry 38 00:01:30,121 --> 00:01:33,188 into where we are as a civilization, 39 00:01:33,221 --> 00:01:35,788 as humanity, and where we should be going. 40 00:01:35,821 --> 00:01:37,721 Narrator: His drive to succeed, 41 00:01:37,755 --> 00:01:39,688 coupled with a sharp mind, 42 00:01:39,721 --> 00:01:43,221 would propel him to early success in the tech world. 43 00:01:43,255 --> 00:01:45,855 Higgins: It's almost as if he delights in showing the world 44 00:01:45,888 --> 00:01:47,388 that he can do something 45 00:01:47,421 --> 00:01:49,321 that people said was impossible. 46 00:01:50,921 --> 00:01:52,655 Narrator: As the money rolled in, 47 00:01:52,688 --> 00:01:54,655 Elon set his sights on the future 48 00:01:54,688 --> 00:01:56,988 he had read about years before. 49 00:01:57,988 --> 00:02:00,021 But like all disrupters, 50 00:02:00,055 --> 00:02:02,155 his path hasn't been easy. 51 00:02:02,721 --> 00:02:04,488 No one could stand in the way 52 00:02:04,521 --> 00:02:06,455 of his boundless vision of a new world. 53 00:02:06,488 --> 00:02:08,755 Higgins: Elon Musk is all about defiance, 54 00:02:08,788 --> 00:02:09,855 he's not gonna hold back. 55 00:02:09,888 --> 00:02:11,488 Tim Fernholz: I think that's a very interesting 56 00:02:11,521 --> 00:02:13,755 blind spot for Elon, 57 00:02:13,788 --> 00:02:17,021 the suffering of his employees sometimes. 58 00:02:17,055 --> 00:02:20,155 Narrator: But Elon Musk remains unapologetic... 59 00:02:20,188 --> 00:02:21,421 Garrett Reisman: He's so determined to accomplish 60 00:02:21,455 --> 00:02:23,355 those goals that if it hurts somebody's feelings, 61 00:02:23,388 --> 00:02:24,755 that's not gonna stop him. 62 00:02:24,788 --> 00:02:26,788 Narrator: ...and ever driven to reach beyond 63 00:02:26,821 --> 00:02:30,021 what anyone but him thought was possible. 64 00:02:30,055 --> 00:02:31,855 Higgins: Building rockets to go into space, 65 00:02:31,888 --> 00:02:33,321 building sports cars, 66 00:02:33,355 --> 00:02:36,421 dating actresses, appearing on TV. 67 00:02:36,455 --> 00:02:40,121 He is living every nerdy boy's dream life. 68 00:02:40,155 --> 00:02:45,121 ♪ (triumphant music) ♪ 69 00:02:45,155 --> 00:02:58,288 ♪ ♪ 70 00:03:00,388 --> 00:03:02,421 (explosion) ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 71 00:03:02,455 --> 00:03:05,855 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 72 00:03:05,888 --> 00:03:08,021 Tim Fernholz: The first three rockets were paid for 73 00:03:08,055 --> 00:03:10,721 by about a hundred million dollars out of his own pocket. 74 00:03:10,755 --> 00:03:13,888 ♪ ♪ 75 00:03:13,921 --> 00:03:15,355 And there was a point where he thought 76 00:03:15,388 --> 00:03:17,088 that was all gonna go down the drain. 77 00:03:17,121 --> 00:03:19,755 ♪ ♪ 78 00:03:19,788 --> 00:03:21,921 2008 was a year where 79 00:03:21,955 --> 00:03:24,555 SpaceX was in trouble, Tesla was in trouble-- 80 00:03:24,588 --> 00:03:26,721 Tim Urban: Both starting to fail. 81 00:03:26,755 --> 00:03:28,121 Crowley: At the same time, personally, 82 00:03:28,155 --> 00:03:30,021 he is going through a high profile, 83 00:03:30,055 --> 00:03:31,355 expensive divorce. 84 00:03:31,388 --> 00:03:33,821 ♪ ♪ 85 00:03:33,855 --> 00:03:36,521 Tim Urban: That was probably the worst year of his life. 86 00:03:36,555 --> 00:03:37,921 Berger: So for SpaceX, 87 00:03:37,955 --> 00:03:40,355 they had one final chance. 88 00:03:40,388 --> 00:03:43,121 They had the parts for a fourth rocket, 89 00:03:43,155 --> 00:03:44,955 but they were out of money. 90 00:03:44,988 --> 00:03:47,755 Like they were...weeks away from missing payroll, 91 00:03:47,788 --> 00:03:50,088 so Elon said, you have six weeks. 92 00:03:50,121 --> 00:03:51,921 ♪ ♪ 93 00:03:51,955 --> 00:03:54,055 We gotta build this rocket, and launch it to orbit, 94 00:03:54,088 --> 00:03:55,221 or we're done. 95 00:03:55,988 --> 00:03:57,521 Controller: Five...four... 96 00:03:57,555 --> 00:03:59,855 Crowley: This is it, this is do or die. 97 00:03:59,888 --> 00:04:03,488 Controller: Three...two... one...zero. 98 00:04:03,521 --> 00:04:06,755 ♪ (dramatic music fading) ♪ 99 00:04:08,855 --> 00:04:11,821 ♪ (gentle music) ♪ 100 00:04:11,855 --> 00:04:15,288 ♪ ♪ 101 00:04:15,321 --> 00:04:18,755 Crowley: Elon Musk was born in Pretoria, South Africa. 102 00:04:18,788 --> 00:04:20,621 ♪ ♪ 103 00:04:20,655 --> 00:04:23,488 When he was 8 years old, his parents divorced, 104 00:04:23,521 --> 00:04:27,221 and Elon was desperately unhappy at home. 105 00:04:27,255 --> 00:04:30,488 ♪ ♪ 106 00:04:30,521 --> 00:04:33,155 Tim Urban: Elon was picked on, and beaten up 107 00:04:33,188 --> 00:04:34,921 as a teen in school. 108 00:04:34,955 --> 00:04:36,321 ♪ ♪ 109 00:04:36,355 --> 00:04:39,555 He read a ton of sci-fi, and still does. 110 00:04:39,588 --> 00:04:42,888 I think he, like a lot of people who are building things 111 00:04:42,921 --> 00:04:45,388 for the future, whether it's in science or in tech, 112 00:04:45,421 --> 00:04:48,921 they find sci-fi to be an inspiration, 113 00:04:48,955 --> 00:04:53,021 because the sci-fi writers are professional imagination people. 114 00:04:57,588 --> 00:05:03,688 ♪ (upbeat futuristic music) ♪ 115 00:05:03,721 --> 00:05:05,788 Kurt Knutsson: The fantastical escapism of these novels 116 00:05:05,821 --> 00:05:07,655 is what sparked a life-long interest 117 00:05:07,688 --> 00:05:09,421 in the trajectory of the human race. 118 00:05:10,555 --> 00:05:12,521 Crowley: It becomes part of a bigger 119 00:05:12,555 --> 00:05:14,521 investigation and inquiry 120 00:05:14,555 --> 00:05:17,621 into where we are as a civilization, 121 00:05:17,655 --> 00:05:20,255 as humanity, and where we should be going. 122 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:23,288 And he started to see this pattern, 123 00:05:23,321 --> 00:05:24,988 that an unlikely hero 124 00:05:25,021 --> 00:05:28,055 come out from last place, and save the world. 125 00:05:30,188 --> 00:05:33,388 Berger: He grew up in the 1970's and 80's... 126 00:05:33,421 --> 00:05:36,055 with the Jetsons, the Space Shuttle was coming online, 127 00:05:36,088 --> 00:05:37,921 it was gonna open up the solar system. 128 00:05:37,955 --> 00:05:39,988 He could envision this bright future of humans 129 00:05:40,021 --> 00:05:42,688 as a multi-planetary space-faring species. 130 00:05:42,721 --> 00:05:45,055 How I would react to that, I'd go watch Star Wars 131 00:05:45,088 --> 00:05:46,355 or just something like that to give me 132 00:05:46,388 --> 00:05:47,688 that kind of adrenaline burst. 133 00:05:47,721 --> 00:05:50,088 But his mindset is, well, this is a problem, 134 00:05:50,121 --> 00:05:51,521 what can we do to solve it? 135 00:05:51,555 --> 00:05:53,788 Knutsson: But for Elon, it wasn't all fantasy, 136 00:05:53,821 --> 00:05:56,655 he had a natural aptitude for math and science. 137 00:05:56,688 --> 00:05:58,188 It was off the charts. 138 00:05:58,221 --> 00:05:59,688 Higgins: They called him 'encyclopedia,' 139 00:05:59,721 --> 00:06:02,455 because he memorized the encyclopedia 140 00:06:02,488 --> 00:06:04,455 and you can imagine a situation, 141 00:06:04,488 --> 00:06:07,255 where you got this kid who's got a lot of intelligence, 142 00:06:07,288 --> 00:06:10,521 he has talked about how at times he felt like perhaps 143 00:06:10,555 --> 00:06:13,588 he was crazy, because he had all these wild ideas, 144 00:06:13,621 --> 00:06:15,288 and he realized other people didn't have 145 00:06:15,321 --> 00:06:16,555 the same kind of thing. 146 00:06:16,588 --> 00:06:20,221 ♪ 147 00:06:20,255 --> 00:06:22,855 Musk: I actually had a computer and it was a Commodore Vic 20, 148 00:06:22,888 --> 00:06:25,288 then I got some books on how to teach yourself programming. 149 00:06:25,321 --> 00:06:27,755 And this was like the coolest thing I'd ever seen. 150 00:06:27,788 --> 00:06:28,955 ♪ 151 00:06:28,988 --> 00:06:31,388 Maye Musk: He'd spent most of the time on the computer, 152 00:06:31,421 --> 00:06:34,621 and then he wrote his first computer program at 12. 153 00:06:34,655 --> 00:06:36,955 He showed it to me and I was at the university, 154 00:06:36,988 --> 00:06:38,755 then doing my Master of Science degree, 155 00:06:38,788 --> 00:06:40,788 and I showed it to the engineering students 156 00:06:40,821 --> 00:06:43,055 and they said "Oh, he knows all the shortcuts!" 157 00:06:43,088 --> 00:06:44,888 So, I said to Elon you should submit it 158 00:06:44,921 --> 00:06:46,888 to a computer magazine, and he did! 159 00:06:46,921 --> 00:06:49,255 Matt Pressman: He actually programmed 160 00:06:49,288 --> 00:06:52,855 a video game called Blastar by himself 161 00:06:52,888 --> 00:06:56,221 and he sold that video game for $500. 162 00:06:56,921 --> 00:06:59,388 So his first entrepreneurial venture 163 00:06:59,421 --> 00:07:01,121 was when he was 12 years old. 164 00:07:01,155 --> 00:07:03,855 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 165 00:07:03,888 --> 00:07:05,455 Knutsson: When Elon was 17, 166 00:07:05,488 --> 00:07:07,521 his genius earned him a scholarship 167 00:07:07,555 --> 00:07:09,455 to Queen's University in Canada. 168 00:07:09,488 --> 00:07:13,455 ♪ (upbeat dramatic music) ♪ 169 00:07:13,488 --> 00:07:21,288 ♪ ♪ 170 00:07:21,321 --> 00:07:24,755 Crowley: When Elon is at Queen's University in Ontario, 171 00:07:24,788 --> 00:07:27,621 he gets an internship at the Bank of Nova Scotia. 172 00:07:27,655 --> 00:07:29,655 And as is typical with Elon, 173 00:07:29,688 --> 00:07:31,455 he spends the summer learning 174 00:07:31,488 --> 00:07:33,521 everything he can about banking. 175 00:07:33,555 --> 00:07:35,855 ♪ ♪ 176 00:07:35,888 --> 00:07:37,888 Knutsson: After two years at Queen's, Elon heads off 177 00:07:37,921 --> 00:07:40,855 to the University of Pennsylvania for a dual degree 178 00:07:40,888 --> 00:07:43,688 he earns in both physics and economics. 179 00:07:43,721 --> 00:07:46,455 Four years later, he's off to Silicon Valley, 180 00:07:46,488 --> 00:07:48,121 where he's at Stanford University, 181 00:07:48,155 --> 00:07:51,155 and he's pursuing a Ph.D. in energy physics. 182 00:07:51,188 --> 00:07:54,155 ♪ (upbeat dramatic music) ♪ 183 00:07:54,188 --> 00:08:00,388 ♪ ♪ 184 00:08:00,421 --> 00:08:02,588 Crowley: Being at Stanford at that time in the 90's 185 00:08:02,621 --> 00:08:04,655 was like a golden ticket. 186 00:08:04,688 --> 00:08:06,555 Knutsson: This thing called the internet, 187 00:08:06,588 --> 00:08:09,455 it was so far-fetched to most people, 188 00:08:09,488 --> 00:08:11,355 but it wasn't for Elon Musk. 189 00:08:11,388 --> 00:08:14,355 ♪ (upbeat dramatic music) ♪ 190 00:08:14,388 --> 00:08:22,055 ♪ ♪ 191 00:08:22,088 --> 00:08:25,055 Crowley: He decides to leave Stanford on day two. 192 00:08:25,721 --> 00:08:28,521 Urban: When it comes to school, he sees it as a data download. 193 00:08:28,555 --> 00:08:29,988 It's a way to... 194 00:08:30,021 --> 00:08:32,055 get knowledge, right? 195 00:08:32,088 --> 00:08:33,955 But there's lots of ways to get knowledge. 196 00:08:33,988 --> 00:08:35,855 And one of the things he said is that he thinks 197 00:08:35,888 --> 00:08:38,688 school is a slow data download, 198 00:08:38,721 --> 00:08:40,321 like an incredibly inefficient 199 00:08:40,355 --> 00:08:41,588 way to get that data. 200 00:08:41,621 --> 00:08:44,888 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 201 00:08:44,921 --> 00:08:46,921 Knutsson: In 1995, Silicon Valley 202 00:08:46,955 --> 00:08:48,688 was full of 20-somethings. 203 00:08:48,721 --> 00:08:50,521 They had dreams and ideas, 204 00:08:50,555 --> 00:08:53,555 and what they were doing is creating the digital age. 205 00:08:53,588 --> 00:08:56,555 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 206 00:08:56,588 --> 00:08:59,021 ♪ 207 00:08:59,055 --> 00:09:01,255 Crowley: There is so much happening 208 00:09:01,288 --> 00:09:03,121 in terms of developing technology 209 00:09:03,155 --> 00:09:05,621 to be used on the internet. 210 00:09:05,655 --> 00:09:07,755 Man: The Valley is where it's all happening at the moment 211 00:09:07,788 --> 00:09:09,321 in terms of the internet, and 212 00:09:09,355 --> 00:09:11,588 the companies and the things they're doing over here are six, 213 00:09:11,621 --> 00:09:13,855 six months to a year ahead of what we're doing in the UK. 214 00:09:15,788 --> 00:09:17,055 Elon Musk: At the time in '95, 215 00:09:17,088 --> 00:09:18,621 nobody was making any money on the internet. 216 00:09:18,655 --> 00:09:21,421 And in fact, when we tried to get funding, 217 00:09:21,455 --> 00:09:23,588 more than half of the venture capitalists we met with 218 00:09:23,621 --> 00:09:25,988 did not know what the internet was and had not used it. 219 00:09:28,588 --> 00:09:32,921 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 220 00:09:32,955 --> 00:09:35,588 Crowley: When you think of internet tech startup, 221 00:09:35,621 --> 00:09:38,088 you might think of like Google's headquarters, 222 00:09:38,121 --> 00:09:40,021 hanging out, gaming together. 223 00:09:40,055 --> 00:09:41,655 This was not that situation. 224 00:09:41,688 --> 00:09:42,688 Knutsson: They weren't thinking about 225 00:09:42,721 --> 00:09:44,421 what money they'd earn from this. 226 00:09:44,455 --> 00:09:46,488 They wanted to change the future, 227 00:09:46,521 --> 00:09:48,455 and that's what was important. 228 00:09:48,488 --> 00:09:50,421 Crowley: Kimbal and Elon were living 229 00:09:50,455 --> 00:09:51,955 in their tiny office, 230 00:09:51,988 --> 00:09:54,288 and it was very cramped quarters. 231 00:09:55,521 --> 00:09:57,621 They were across the street from a fitness club, 232 00:09:57,655 --> 00:09:59,021 so they could go there 233 00:09:59,055 --> 00:10:00,988 during the day and have a shower. 234 00:10:01,021 --> 00:10:03,155 It was bare bones. 235 00:10:03,188 --> 00:10:05,655 Urban: You know, the classic scrappy startup story. 236 00:10:07,021 --> 00:10:08,488 Knutsson: For just about four years, 237 00:10:08,521 --> 00:10:09,788 they're on the phone, 238 00:10:09,821 --> 00:10:11,455 trying to teach internet 101 239 00:10:11,488 --> 00:10:13,655 to just about any customer or investor. 240 00:10:14,655 --> 00:10:16,221 Crowley: It was a huge hurdle 241 00:10:16,255 --> 00:10:17,988 to overcome explaining that. 242 00:10:18,021 --> 00:10:19,888 ♪ 243 00:10:19,921 --> 00:10:21,321 Knutsson: Newspapers saw the potential, 244 00:10:21,355 --> 00:10:23,921 early adopters at digitizing articles, 245 00:10:23,955 --> 00:10:25,855 so Elon sells them on it, 246 00:10:25,888 --> 00:10:27,121 they pay him a bunch of money. 247 00:10:27,155 --> 00:10:29,021 Elon takes some of that money 248 00:10:29,055 --> 00:10:31,421 for R&D of his next idea, 249 00:10:31,455 --> 00:10:32,621 digitizing phone books. 250 00:10:32,655 --> 00:10:34,988 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 251 00:10:35,021 --> 00:10:36,688 Crowley: If you think back to 252 00:10:36,721 --> 00:10:38,021 that period of time, 253 00:10:38,055 --> 00:10:40,288 if people wanted to find a business, 254 00:10:40,321 --> 00:10:41,588 you had to open something 255 00:10:41,621 --> 00:10:42,955 called the Yellow Pages, 256 00:10:42,988 --> 00:10:44,921 which were paid ads in this 257 00:10:44,955 --> 00:10:46,488 paper, physical book. 258 00:10:46,521 --> 00:10:48,621 So, what Elon figured out is 259 00:10:48,655 --> 00:10:50,055 what if you used the internet 260 00:10:50,088 --> 00:10:51,821 to give you the listing of your business, 261 00:10:51,855 --> 00:10:54,421 and turn by turn directions to get there? 262 00:10:54,455 --> 00:10:56,921 Knutsson: Elon, along with his younger brother Kimbal, 263 00:10:56,955 --> 00:10:58,821 who he'd convinced to join him from Canada, 264 00:10:58,855 --> 00:11:00,255 created Zip2. 265 00:11:00,288 --> 00:11:03,755 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 266 00:11:03,788 --> 00:11:06,155 Crowley: This was revolutionary thinking. 267 00:11:06,188 --> 00:11:08,155 It was a brand new idea. 268 00:11:08,188 --> 00:11:12,755 ♪ ♪ 269 00:11:12,788 --> 00:11:14,588 Knutsson: Compaq Computers understood the value 270 00:11:14,621 --> 00:11:16,755 of digitizing information like phone books, 271 00:11:16,788 --> 00:11:18,788 so they end up buying Zip2. 272 00:11:18,821 --> 00:11:20,355 Crowley: Elon sold that company 273 00:11:20,388 --> 00:11:22,721 for $307 million dollars. 274 00:11:22,755 --> 00:11:24,221 And he personally made 275 00:11:24,255 --> 00:11:26,521 $22 million from the sale of Zip2. 276 00:11:26,555 --> 00:11:28,655 ♪ ♪ 277 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:30,621 Knutsson: This is the beginning of a process 278 00:11:30,655 --> 00:11:33,621 that Elon Musk would use for success. 279 00:11:33,655 --> 00:11:36,921 Make it, and then sink it all into the next venture. 280 00:11:40,988 --> 00:11:43,321 Feresten: People say that he sunk all of that money 281 00:11:43,355 --> 00:11:45,555 into his company. No! 282 00:11:45,588 --> 00:11:47,355 He bought a million dollar 283 00:11:47,388 --> 00:11:49,855 McLaren F1... (chuckles) 284 00:11:49,888 --> 00:11:51,121 first! (laughs) 285 00:11:51,155 --> 00:11:53,188 Which I admire. I like that! 286 00:11:53,221 --> 00:11:55,488 Elon Musk: Wow, I can't believe it's actually here. 287 00:11:55,521 --> 00:11:56,688 It's pretty wild, man! 288 00:11:56,721 --> 00:11:58,655 There are 62 McLarens in the world, 289 00:11:58,688 --> 00:11:59,921 and I will own one of them. 290 00:11:59,955 --> 00:12:01,321 (engine revving smoothly) 291 00:12:01,355 --> 00:12:03,355 It's just a moment in my life! 292 00:12:03,388 --> 00:12:04,988 (laughter) 293 00:12:05,021 --> 00:12:06,121 Knutsson: After the McLaren, 294 00:12:06,155 --> 00:12:08,088 he goes all in on his next mission. 295 00:12:08,121 --> 00:12:09,921 Crowley: So Elon decides to 296 00:12:09,955 --> 00:12:11,388 take this windfall, 297 00:12:11,421 --> 00:12:13,188 and invest it in a new startup, 298 00:12:13,221 --> 00:12:15,055 which he called x.com 299 00:12:15,088 --> 00:12:17,788 Knutsson: In 1999, the idea of telling somebody 300 00:12:17,821 --> 00:12:19,288 that their money is gonna be 301 00:12:19,321 --> 00:12:21,221 online in some form, 302 00:12:21,255 --> 00:12:23,588 was outrageous and completely foreign. 303 00:12:23,621 --> 00:12:25,355 Crowley: If you wanted to buy something, 304 00:12:25,388 --> 00:12:28,288 that was in California, and you're sitting in New York, 305 00:12:28,321 --> 00:12:29,621 you had two options. 306 00:12:29,655 --> 00:12:31,988 You could send a paper check in the mail 307 00:12:32,021 --> 00:12:33,555 and they would wait, 308 00:12:33,588 --> 00:12:35,288 or you could call them over the phone, 309 00:12:35,321 --> 00:12:36,955 and give them your credit card number 310 00:12:36,988 --> 00:12:39,921 and hope that you are working with a reputable person. 311 00:12:39,955 --> 00:12:41,455 Those were your options. 312 00:12:41,488 --> 00:12:44,421 Elon began to think about his internship 313 00:12:44,455 --> 00:12:47,055 for the bank of Nova Scotia and what he learned there, 314 00:12:47,088 --> 00:12:49,855 and he realizes that the internet 315 00:12:49,888 --> 00:12:52,588 is a perfect vehicle for moving money around 316 00:12:52,621 --> 00:12:54,088 in a digital way. 317 00:12:54,121 --> 00:12:55,755 Knutsson: On Thanksgiving in 1999, 318 00:12:55,788 --> 00:12:57,721 Elon launches x.com. 319 00:12:57,755 --> 00:13:00,055 Despite it being way ahead of its time, 320 00:13:00,088 --> 00:13:02,955 a hundred thousand people sign up within 30 days. 321 00:13:02,988 --> 00:13:04,655 - A big, big X. 322 00:13:04,688 --> 00:13:06,555 Elon Musk: Exactly! X.com! 323 00:13:08,821 --> 00:13:10,288 Knutsson: Around the same time there's another 324 00:13:10,321 --> 00:13:12,588 digital payment startup called Confinity, 325 00:13:12,621 --> 00:13:15,488 a tech entrepreneur named Peter Thiel is behind it. 326 00:13:15,521 --> 00:13:16,855 What Elon loves is 327 00:13:16,888 --> 00:13:19,321 how easy to use their interface is, 328 00:13:19,355 --> 00:13:22,088 so he merges x.com with Confinity. 329 00:13:22,121 --> 00:13:24,355 Crowley: This company goes through a name change 330 00:13:24,388 --> 00:13:25,988 and becomes PayPal. 331 00:13:27,555 --> 00:13:30,021 It was rough going, getting the two teams 332 00:13:30,055 --> 00:13:32,421 who had been die-hard competitors 333 00:13:32,455 --> 00:13:33,855 on the same page. 334 00:13:33,888 --> 00:13:37,988 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 335 00:13:38,021 --> 00:13:40,021 Higgins: Meanwhile, his girlfriend Justine, 336 00:13:40,055 --> 00:13:42,255 she eventually comes out to Silicon Valley 337 00:13:42,288 --> 00:13:44,755 where he has started his companies, 338 00:13:44,788 --> 00:13:46,421 she's there alongside him, 339 00:13:46,455 --> 00:13:48,288 they tie the knot, 340 00:13:48,321 --> 00:13:50,688 and on the way to the honeymoon, 341 00:13:50,721 --> 00:13:54,088 his colleagues at PayPal felt like 342 00:13:54,121 --> 00:13:56,321 he was making things overly complex, 343 00:13:56,355 --> 00:13:57,488 and they didn't like his, 344 00:13:57,521 --> 00:13:59,155 his management style in general. 345 00:13:59,188 --> 00:14:02,155 And so, while he was heading towards his honeymoon, 346 00:14:02,188 --> 00:14:04,055 there essentially was a coup, 347 00:14:04,088 --> 00:14:06,821 and he was booted from the role as CEO. 348 00:14:06,855 --> 00:14:10,355 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 349 00:14:10,388 --> 00:14:12,988 He flies back, deals with that. 350 00:14:13,021 --> 00:14:15,888 So ultimately, then they try to take another honeymoon, 351 00:14:15,921 --> 00:14:17,355 and on this honeymoon, 352 00:14:17,388 --> 00:14:19,188 he gets malaria that 353 00:14:19,221 --> 00:14:21,721 by all accounts, nearly does him in. 354 00:14:21,755 --> 00:14:26,488 ♪ ♪ 355 00:14:26,521 --> 00:14:29,421 And on his near death bed, 356 00:14:29,455 --> 00:14:31,688 he is thinking about what he's done with his life 357 00:14:31,721 --> 00:14:33,255 and what he could do next, 358 00:14:33,288 --> 00:14:35,888 and this is where you kind of see the origins 359 00:14:35,921 --> 00:14:38,855 of kind of the next chapter of his life. 360 00:14:38,888 --> 00:14:40,388 He wants to take big chances 361 00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,921 and try to have an impact for the world. 362 00:14:42,955 --> 00:14:44,821 Crowley: So he's out of the company as CEO, 363 00:14:44,855 --> 00:14:47,355 but stays on as an advisor. 364 00:14:49,055 --> 00:14:51,388 When eBay buys PayPal, 365 00:14:51,421 --> 00:14:55,521 Elon makes $180 million from that sale. 366 00:14:55,555 --> 00:14:57,188 Fernholz: If I had $100 million dollars, 367 00:14:57,221 --> 00:14:59,688 I would retire to Tahiti. It would be great. 368 00:14:59,721 --> 00:15:02,688 Elon Musk: The idea of lying on a beach as my main thing, 369 00:15:02,721 --> 00:15:05,288 just sounds horrible to me. I would go bonkers. 370 00:15:05,321 --> 00:15:07,388 I would have to be on serious drugs. 371 00:15:07,421 --> 00:15:09,221 Fernholz: Elon took it all and put it into 372 00:15:09,255 --> 00:15:11,088 the riskiest business imaginable. 373 00:15:11,121 --> 00:15:12,421 Crowley: Space exploration. 374 00:15:13,255 --> 00:15:15,988 Urban: Conventional wisdom says starting a company is scary. 375 00:15:16,021 --> 00:15:18,988 Conventional wisdom says, when you sell PayPal, 376 00:15:19,021 --> 00:15:21,655 and make over $100 million dollars, 377 00:15:21,688 --> 00:15:23,555 you definitely need to make sure 378 00:15:23,588 --> 00:15:24,921 you're rich for the rest of your life. 379 00:15:24,955 --> 00:15:27,488 Elon doesn't care what conventional wisdom says. 380 00:15:28,655 --> 00:15:30,488 He said, what's the worst that's going to happen, 381 00:15:30,521 --> 00:15:32,121 if I put all this money down on something, 382 00:15:32,155 --> 00:15:33,621 that I think is incredibly important? 383 00:15:33,655 --> 00:15:34,888 Then I lose it! In the end, 384 00:15:34,921 --> 00:15:36,255 is it really the end of the world? 385 00:15:36,288 --> 00:15:38,988 And so, Elon has the same appetite for risk 386 00:15:39,021 --> 00:15:40,088 that the rest of us have, 387 00:15:40,121 --> 00:15:42,455 it's just that he defines risk very differently. 388 00:15:42,488 --> 00:15:45,455 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 389 00:15:45,488 --> 00:15:51,988 ♪ ♪ 390 00:15:52,021 --> 00:15:55,321 After PayPal, he took a sharp turn and never looked back. 391 00:15:55,355 --> 00:15:57,055 And that turn was towards 392 00:15:57,088 --> 00:15:59,155 how can we reduce existential risk 393 00:15:59,188 --> 00:16:02,688 and give humanity the best shot of a good and long future? 394 00:16:02,721 --> 00:16:04,388 Knutsson: I think if you look back at his childhood 395 00:16:04,421 --> 00:16:07,221 and the fantastical stories in these novels about 396 00:16:07,255 --> 00:16:09,888 how the world would come to an end and he thought, 397 00:16:09,921 --> 00:16:11,355 'Hey, how do I fix that?' 398 00:16:11,388 --> 00:16:12,921 So it should come as no surprise, really 399 00:16:12,955 --> 00:16:15,321 that he aimed towards saving mankind. 400 00:16:16,655 --> 00:16:18,155 Elon Musk: I always thought that 401 00:16:18,188 --> 00:16:20,288 we would make much more progress in space. 402 00:16:20,321 --> 00:16:21,688 When we went to the moon, 403 00:16:21,721 --> 00:16:23,488 we were supposed to have a base on the moon, 404 00:16:23,521 --> 00:16:25,855 we're supposed to send people to Mars. 405 00:16:25,888 --> 00:16:28,155 And that stuff just, it just didn't happen. 406 00:16:28,188 --> 00:16:30,621 We went backwards. It was really disappointing. 407 00:16:30,655 --> 00:16:33,355 ♪ (music fading) ♪ 408 00:16:33,388 --> 00:16:35,488 (rocket engine roaring) 409 00:16:35,521 --> 00:16:38,188 Miles O'Brien: Now, those of us who grew up in the Apollo days 410 00:16:38,221 --> 00:16:40,655 and were sprinkled by moon dust, 411 00:16:40,688 --> 00:16:41,788 expected we would have 412 00:16:41,821 --> 00:16:44,988 colonies on Mars by the mid 1980's. 413 00:16:45,021 --> 00:16:46,355 Well this never happened. 414 00:16:46,388 --> 00:16:48,888 NASA had not put Mars 415 00:16:48,921 --> 00:16:50,488 on its agenda. 416 00:16:50,521 --> 00:16:51,888 ♪ 417 00:16:51,921 --> 00:16:53,455 Reisman: In the early days of Apollo, 418 00:16:53,488 --> 00:16:55,688 NASA was very forward-leaning and innovative 419 00:16:55,721 --> 00:16:57,288 and trying all kinds of new things. 420 00:16:57,321 --> 00:17:00,755 I think what's really changed NASA were the tragedies. 421 00:17:00,788 --> 00:17:01,988 ♪ 422 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,721 We had first, Apollo One. 423 00:17:03,755 --> 00:17:05,288 ♪ 424 00:17:05,321 --> 00:17:06,721 Then we had Challenger... 425 00:17:06,755 --> 00:17:08,855 ♪ 426 00:17:08,888 --> 00:17:10,188 ...and then we had Columbia. 427 00:17:10,221 --> 00:17:13,721 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 428 00:17:13,755 --> 00:17:16,355 Berger: At NASA, one of the most famous mottos of the agency is 429 00:17:16,388 --> 00:17:17,955 'failure is not an option'. 430 00:17:17,988 --> 00:17:19,721 So when people are in space, 431 00:17:19,755 --> 00:17:21,688 you can't really afford to fail. 432 00:17:21,721 --> 00:17:23,555 The problem is that mindset 433 00:17:23,588 --> 00:17:26,888 transcended everything the agency did, 434 00:17:26,921 --> 00:17:29,455 and it reinforced this risk-averse culture. 435 00:17:30,155 --> 00:17:32,388 O'Brien: NASA became much more entrenched, 436 00:17:32,421 --> 00:17:33,855 much more bureaucratic, 437 00:17:33,888 --> 00:17:36,121 and took bold destinations, 438 00:17:36,155 --> 00:17:38,955 bold journeys, frankly, off their agenda. 439 00:17:41,621 --> 00:17:43,388 Berger: Elon Musk worries a lot 440 00:17:43,421 --> 00:17:45,488 about the fate of humanity. 441 00:17:46,155 --> 00:17:48,755 He feels as long as humans are on one planet, 442 00:17:48,788 --> 00:17:51,455 we're vulnerable to all sorts of catastrophes. 443 00:17:52,455 --> 00:17:54,755 Crowley: There could be an incoming asteroid 444 00:17:54,788 --> 00:17:58,188 that could eliminate life on Earth as we know it. 445 00:17:58,221 --> 00:18:01,588 That we cannot solve climate change 446 00:18:01,621 --> 00:18:03,588 and that our planet is 447 00:18:03,621 --> 00:18:06,088 no longer habitable for humans. 448 00:18:06,121 --> 00:18:08,321 Reisman: The reason he wants us to be 449 00:18:08,355 --> 00:18:10,488 a space faring civilization 450 00:18:10,521 --> 00:18:12,021 is for survival of the species. 451 00:18:12,055 --> 00:18:14,521 There's nothing less important than that. 452 00:18:14,555 --> 00:18:17,521 Higgins: In a lot of ways he's the world's greatest prepper. 453 00:18:17,555 --> 00:18:19,921 Tim Urban: To understand why he does what he does, 454 00:18:19,955 --> 00:18:22,155 you need to take that huge step back 455 00:18:22,188 --> 00:18:24,755 and understand how he sees humanity. 456 00:18:24,788 --> 00:18:27,588 The big, big picture. And once you understand that, 457 00:18:27,621 --> 00:18:30,255 it's actually very obvious why he's doing what he's doing. 458 00:18:30,288 --> 00:18:32,021 To Elon, it is so obvious 459 00:18:32,055 --> 00:18:33,755 that you have to try to 460 00:18:33,788 --> 00:18:36,321 keep the light of human consciousness alive. 461 00:18:36,355 --> 00:18:38,621 And it would be so sad, so utterly heartbreaking 462 00:18:38,655 --> 00:18:40,721 if it went out like a candle. 463 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:44,455 ♪ ♪ 464 00:18:44,488 --> 00:18:46,355 Berger: And so he started thinking about 465 00:18:46,388 --> 00:18:48,921 what's the best option in our solar system. 466 00:18:48,955 --> 00:18:51,755 And Mars as imperfect as it is, 467 00:18:51,788 --> 00:18:53,521 is the best place for us 468 00:18:53,555 --> 00:18:55,788 to start learning to survive on other worlds. 469 00:18:55,821 --> 00:18:58,988 ♪ 470 00:18:59,021 --> 00:19:01,921 The end of 2001, he began looking in to see 471 00:19:01,955 --> 00:19:05,055 what NASA was doing about sending humans to Mars. 472 00:19:06,221 --> 00:19:08,421 Urban: Elon actually went to the NASA website and was saying, 473 00:19:08,455 --> 00:19:09,555 'what's the Mars effort look like?' 474 00:19:09,588 --> 00:19:11,655 And he realized, there was no Mars effort at all. 475 00:19:12,988 --> 00:19:14,555 O'Brien: Elon realized first of all, 476 00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,521 that getting anything into space 477 00:19:16,555 --> 00:19:18,388 was ridiculously expensive. 478 00:19:19,921 --> 00:19:21,855 Crowley: Keep in mind at that time, 479 00:19:21,888 --> 00:19:24,688 the only really big players in space 480 00:19:24,721 --> 00:19:26,521 were government funded. 481 00:19:26,555 --> 00:19:28,855 Berger: The way it had worked for decades was 482 00:19:28,888 --> 00:19:31,221 that NASA and the Department of Defense 483 00:19:31,255 --> 00:19:33,188 would decide that they needed a particular rocket 484 00:19:33,221 --> 00:19:35,555 or a particular satellite or a particular spacecraft. 485 00:19:35,588 --> 00:19:37,255 And then they would go to industry 486 00:19:37,288 --> 00:19:38,821 and they would put out a request, 487 00:19:38,855 --> 00:19:40,388 how much could you do it for, 488 00:19:40,421 --> 00:19:42,055 and how soon could you do it? 489 00:19:42,088 --> 00:19:44,588 O'Brien: The government owns everything. 490 00:19:44,621 --> 00:19:46,888 They're hiring a contractor to build it 491 00:19:46,921 --> 00:19:48,921 precisely to their specs. 492 00:19:48,955 --> 00:19:52,388 And the contractor is charging an hourly rate 493 00:19:52,421 --> 00:19:54,588 to build, this case, the rocket. 494 00:19:54,621 --> 00:19:57,721 Well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize 495 00:19:57,755 --> 00:20:00,388 that the slower it goes, the more you make. 496 00:20:00,421 --> 00:20:02,188 How perverse is that? 497 00:20:02,221 --> 00:20:04,155 So there was no incentive 498 00:20:04,188 --> 00:20:05,521 up to that point, 499 00:20:05,555 --> 00:20:07,388 to make it any cheaper. 500 00:20:08,255 --> 00:20:10,221 Elon saw the niche right away, 501 00:20:10,255 --> 00:20:12,488 as it's not so much a lack of vision. 502 00:20:12,521 --> 00:20:15,355 It's a lack of affordable rockets. 503 00:20:16,421 --> 00:20:18,988 Crowley: During this process of exploring that, 504 00:20:19,021 --> 00:20:22,888 Elon thinks, "what if I bought a rocket?" 505 00:20:24,088 --> 00:20:26,021 And he realizes the only way to do that 506 00:20:26,055 --> 00:20:28,255 is to buy some ICBMs 507 00:20:28,288 --> 00:20:31,188 or Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles. 508 00:20:31,221 --> 00:20:32,888 O'Brien: So he thought, well, the cheap way to do it, 509 00:20:32,921 --> 00:20:34,755 we'll go to the Russians, who need some money 510 00:20:34,788 --> 00:20:36,521 and we'll buy an ICBM. 511 00:20:36,555 --> 00:20:37,921 But he discovered that the Russians 512 00:20:37,955 --> 00:20:39,588 drive very hard bargains 513 00:20:39,621 --> 00:20:42,188 and did not take him seriously at all. 514 00:20:42,221 --> 00:20:47,755 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 515 00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:50,255 Matt Pressman: On the plane ride back to the U.S., 516 00:20:50,288 --> 00:20:51,855 they saw him reading 517 00:20:51,888 --> 00:20:54,488 a Russian rocket manual 518 00:20:54,521 --> 00:20:56,555 translated into English. 519 00:20:56,588 --> 00:20:59,088 And he just decided, I'm gonna do this myself. 520 00:20:59,121 --> 00:21:00,988 Urban: I'm just gonna start a company 521 00:21:01,021 --> 00:21:03,155 that colonizes Mars, we don't need NASA. 522 00:21:03,188 --> 00:21:05,255 We don't need the U.S. or Russia. 523 00:21:05,288 --> 00:21:06,621 I'm gonna do it. 524 00:21:07,688 --> 00:21:08,788 O'Brien: Then he starts thinking, 525 00:21:08,821 --> 00:21:10,788 "well, why don't I just build my own rocket?" 526 00:21:10,821 --> 00:21:12,555 Elon Musk: We're looking for great people 527 00:21:12,588 --> 00:21:14,421 of all kinds to join the company, 528 00:21:14,455 --> 00:21:16,155 so if you're interested, please send us your resume. 529 00:21:16,188 --> 00:21:18,121 O'Brien: This is a classic tale 530 00:21:18,155 --> 00:21:21,588 of a disruptive force in a market. 531 00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:24,321 It almost seemed insurmountable to most of us, 532 00:21:24,355 --> 00:21:25,688 and that's why we all laughed at him. 533 00:21:25,721 --> 00:21:29,988 ♪ ♪ 534 00:21:30,021 --> 00:21:37,421 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 535 00:21:37,455 --> 00:21:40,421 Pressman: At the same time as he's starting SpaceX, 536 00:21:40,455 --> 00:21:42,155 he was very interested in this idea 537 00:21:42,188 --> 00:21:44,688 of launching an electric car company. 538 00:21:46,155 --> 00:21:48,888 Higgins: Tesla in its early stages was an idea. 539 00:21:48,921 --> 00:21:52,088 It was a business plan that 540 00:21:52,121 --> 00:21:53,788 thought there might be a market 541 00:21:53,821 --> 00:21:55,721 for an electric sports car 542 00:21:55,755 --> 00:21:58,455 and had some ideas on how to do it, 543 00:21:58,488 --> 00:21:59,921 but it needed funding. 544 00:21:59,955 --> 00:22:02,688 Pressman: The original founders had this idea 545 00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:04,988 to create an electric car using 546 00:22:05,021 --> 00:22:06,488 computer batteries. 547 00:22:06,521 --> 00:22:09,655 Elon became very interested in this concept. 548 00:22:09,688 --> 00:22:12,355 And soon after that, he became an initial investor 549 00:22:12,388 --> 00:22:14,655 and a founder in the business. 550 00:22:14,688 --> 00:22:16,988 Elon Musk: I mean, fundamentally we have a delayed gratification 551 00:22:17,021 --> 00:22:20,021 issue, collectively as a species, like, 552 00:22:20,055 --> 00:22:22,288 are we willing to 553 00:22:22,321 --> 00:22:25,888 sacrifice the near term for the long term? 554 00:22:25,921 --> 00:22:29,121 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 555 00:22:29,155 --> 00:22:32,555 Urban: The goal was to start Tesla, 556 00:22:32,588 --> 00:22:35,155 and have someone else be the CEO. 557 00:22:35,188 --> 00:22:38,555 And so he never intended to be the CEO of two companies. 558 00:22:38,588 --> 00:22:40,388 Uh, but that's what ended up happening. 559 00:22:40,421 --> 00:22:43,188 ♪ ♪ 560 00:22:43,221 --> 00:22:47,021 Feresten: Before Tesla, electric cars were pretty much dead. 561 00:22:47,055 --> 00:22:50,055 It was pretty much an idea that had failed before 562 00:22:50,088 --> 00:22:52,021 and was going nowhere, fast. 563 00:22:52,821 --> 00:22:55,721 Crowley: They were dorky, they didn't go very far. 564 00:22:55,755 --> 00:22:57,555 I mean, you would be kind of embarrassed. 565 00:22:57,588 --> 00:22:58,988 You wouldn't show up to a job in that, 566 00:22:59,021 --> 00:23:01,121 and you certainly wouldn't show up to a date 567 00:23:01,155 --> 00:23:02,688 driving an electric vehicle. 568 00:23:02,721 --> 00:23:05,055 ♪ ♪ 569 00:23:05,088 --> 00:23:06,755 Urban: The goal of Tesla was never to become 570 00:23:06,788 --> 00:23:08,121 a giant car company. 571 00:23:08,155 --> 00:23:09,621 It's to become a company that is 572 00:23:09,655 --> 00:23:13,621 a catalyst for a paradigm shift. 573 00:23:13,655 --> 00:23:15,488 Pressman: It really started with him 574 00:23:15,521 --> 00:23:18,521 trying to figure out a way in which he could capture 575 00:23:18,555 --> 00:23:21,355 the world's attention with electric cars. 576 00:23:21,388 --> 00:23:22,855 Elon Musk: Their idea of an electric car is something 577 00:23:22,888 --> 00:23:24,855 that doesn't look good, isn't fast, 578 00:23:24,888 --> 00:23:27,588 it doesn't have high performance, has low range. 579 00:23:27,621 --> 00:23:30,088 We wanted to break the mold of all of that. 580 00:23:30,121 --> 00:23:32,121 And so do something that was beautiful, 581 00:23:32,155 --> 00:23:34,821 had high acceleration, incredible handling, 582 00:23:34,855 --> 00:23:38,255 had tons of capability, lots of room, 583 00:23:38,288 --> 00:23:40,555 and really was better than any gasoline car. 584 00:23:40,588 --> 00:23:43,088 Crowley: Elon sees this potential, 585 00:23:43,121 --> 00:23:45,555 to come in at the extreme high end, 586 00:23:45,588 --> 00:23:47,521 with a luxury electric vehicle. 587 00:23:47,555 --> 00:23:50,055 And that if you made driving them cool, 588 00:23:50,088 --> 00:23:53,521 if they were reliable, if they actually went a distance, 589 00:23:53,555 --> 00:23:56,688 he could see a way forward for this company. 590 00:23:56,721 --> 00:24:00,355 And that a company like that could help the world 591 00:24:00,388 --> 00:24:03,188 get off of its dependence on oil. 592 00:24:04,355 --> 00:24:06,688 Urban: He's trying to create a car so good, 593 00:24:06,721 --> 00:24:09,188 that everyone wants it, 594 00:24:09,221 --> 00:24:11,155 every car company has to start making it, 595 00:24:11,188 --> 00:24:13,921 and eventually it's the car that everyone drives. 596 00:24:13,955 --> 00:24:15,688 Then it's like the iPhone of cars. 597 00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:19,988 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 598 00:24:20,021 --> 00:24:23,321 ♪ (music fading) ♪ 599 00:24:23,355 --> 00:24:25,621 Elon Musk: Doing a startup is, at the beginning, 600 00:24:25,655 --> 00:24:28,088 it's like eating glass and staring into the abyss. 601 00:24:28,121 --> 00:24:29,655 It's not fun." 602 00:24:29,688 --> 00:24:31,788 Higgins: Elon Musk's attention was at SpaceX, 603 00:24:31,821 --> 00:24:34,988 but as the Tesla went down the road, 604 00:24:35,021 --> 00:24:37,155 it was becoming clearer and clearer 605 00:24:37,188 --> 00:24:39,655 that it was going to be a lot harder to make the Roadster 606 00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:41,121 than everybody originally thought. 607 00:24:41,155 --> 00:24:43,188 Costs were getting out of control, 608 00:24:43,221 --> 00:24:44,921 deadlines were being missed, 609 00:24:44,955 --> 00:24:47,788 and Elon Musk starts to 610 00:24:47,821 --> 00:24:49,888 wonder about what's happening. 611 00:24:52,388 --> 00:24:53,655 Crowley: At the same time 612 00:24:53,688 --> 00:24:56,021 Tesla is developing the Roadster, 613 00:24:56,055 --> 00:24:59,255 SpaceX, they were now developing a rocket. 614 00:24:59,288 --> 00:25:01,988 Reisman: Up until this point, NASA had only used 615 00:25:02,021 --> 00:25:04,721 expendable rockets and it was just not affordable. 616 00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:07,521 Fernholz: He really believes reusable rockets 617 00:25:07,555 --> 00:25:09,355 are the only path forward 618 00:25:09,388 --> 00:25:11,521 for cost effective space access. 619 00:25:12,788 --> 00:25:13,921 Elon was saying, you know, 620 00:25:13,955 --> 00:25:15,888 I'm gonna make a reusable rocket to go to Mars. 621 00:25:15,921 --> 00:25:18,888 And everyone was saying, 'this is impossible.' 622 00:25:20,288 --> 00:25:22,021 So SpaceX began 623 00:25:22,055 --> 00:25:24,388 creating a small rocket called the Falcon One. 624 00:25:24,421 --> 00:25:25,655 ♪ 625 00:25:25,688 --> 00:25:26,721 Elon Musk: It's not a question of will, 626 00:25:26,755 --> 00:25:28,855 it's a question of showing that there's a way. 627 00:25:28,888 --> 00:25:31,721 Berger: No one's paying SpaceX to build that rocket. 628 00:25:31,755 --> 00:25:34,021 Crowley: This wasn't money from other investors. 629 00:25:34,055 --> 00:25:36,688 This was his personal fortune in the game. 630 00:25:36,721 --> 00:25:38,888 Interviewer: So you had a budget of about a hundred million? 631 00:25:38,921 --> 00:25:40,155 Something like that? 632 00:25:40,188 --> 00:25:42,755 Elon: Well I was hoping it would be less than that, but, uh, 633 00:25:42,788 --> 00:25:45,621 I mean, I couldn't, I couldn't spend much more than that. 634 00:25:53,121 --> 00:25:55,755 Astronaut: Okay, Houston, I'm gonna change lenses on you. 635 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:56,921 O'Brien: "Failure is not an option" 636 00:25:56,955 --> 00:25:59,288 is the famous NASA phrase. 637 00:25:59,321 --> 00:26:03,321 And...it is absolutely the opposite 638 00:26:03,355 --> 00:26:05,621 of the way Elon Musk thinks. 639 00:26:05,655 --> 00:26:07,621 Berger: Failure is an option at SpaceX. 640 00:26:07,655 --> 00:26:09,555 And while he didn't like to fail, 641 00:26:09,588 --> 00:26:11,221 he realized that failing 642 00:26:11,255 --> 00:26:14,255 was part of going fast. 643 00:26:14,288 --> 00:26:16,921 Fernholz: It is a willingness to accept risks 644 00:26:16,955 --> 00:26:18,488 and to iterate quickly, 645 00:26:18,521 --> 00:26:21,321 to test hardware, to accept failure, 646 00:26:21,355 --> 00:26:23,588 that is not part of NASA's culture. 647 00:26:23,621 --> 00:26:25,321 Elon Musk: And there should be an expectation that, 648 00:26:25,355 --> 00:26:27,355 that failure is highly likely. 649 00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:30,588 Urban: When SpaceX started, 650 00:26:30,621 --> 00:26:33,088 you know, it was funded by Elon 651 00:26:33,121 --> 00:26:35,588 and, you know, he had money from PayPal, but not that much, 652 00:26:35,621 --> 00:26:37,221 and rocket launches are really expensive. 653 00:26:37,255 --> 00:26:39,221 So they had to show 654 00:26:39,255 --> 00:26:41,055 that they really were a real company 655 00:26:41,088 --> 00:26:42,721 that could truly launch something 656 00:26:42,755 --> 00:26:44,455 into space successfully. 657 00:26:44,488 --> 00:26:46,655 So they could get a contract from NASA, 658 00:26:46,688 --> 00:26:49,321 so that they could actually have funding to keep going. 659 00:26:49,355 --> 00:26:51,488 Fernholz: NASA's deputy administrator at that time, 660 00:26:51,521 --> 00:26:53,788 Lori Garver, she saw how 661 00:26:53,821 --> 00:26:56,821 NASA was just not living up to what it could be. 662 00:26:56,855 --> 00:27:00,655 ♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪ 663 00:27:00,688 --> 00:27:03,155 Lori Garver: I believed in the concept, 664 00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:06,155 that the private sector, properly incentivized, 665 00:27:06,188 --> 00:27:09,355 could do something better and cheaper, 666 00:27:09,388 --> 00:27:12,355 more efficiently for sure, than the government, 667 00:27:12,388 --> 00:27:14,921 Because we had been doing it for 60 years. 668 00:27:16,788 --> 00:27:20,655 O'Brien: Lori Garver said, "the fastest way for Americans 669 00:27:20,688 --> 00:27:23,021 to get back into space on a rocket, 670 00:27:23,055 --> 00:27:25,388 is to rethink how we do business." 671 00:27:25,421 --> 00:27:28,155 So she's a crucial player in all of this. 672 00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:31,188 Certainly, we would not see Elon where he is now, 673 00:27:31,221 --> 00:27:33,588 if Lori Garver hadn't been in that job. 674 00:27:34,388 --> 00:27:37,021 Garver: Elon didn't play the game. 675 00:27:37,055 --> 00:27:39,355 Like, these are big aerospace companies. 676 00:27:39,388 --> 00:27:41,355 These are defense contractors, 677 00:27:41,388 --> 00:27:44,521 and it's a club, and it's a very exclusive club, 678 00:27:44,555 --> 00:27:48,055 a hundreds of billions of dollars a year business. 679 00:27:48,088 --> 00:27:51,488 And they weren't going to go quietly into the night. 680 00:27:53,488 --> 00:27:55,521 Reisman: There was a big difference in corporate culture 681 00:27:55,555 --> 00:27:58,588 between the entire aerospace industry and SpaceX, 682 00:27:58,621 --> 00:27:59,888 no question about it. 683 00:27:59,921 --> 00:28:02,888 The aerospace industry had a certain way of doing things. 684 00:28:02,921 --> 00:28:05,821 And then you had this upstart, you know, this SpaceX, 685 00:28:05,855 --> 00:28:08,021 that really had Silicon Valley in the DNA, 686 00:28:08,055 --> 00:28:11,055 that was out there with the status quo as the enemy. 687 00:28:11,088 --> 00:28:15,088 Garver: There were a lot of things about Elon and SpaceX 688 00:28:15,121 --> 00:28:18,455 that the aerospace community didn't like. 689 00:28:18,488 --> 00:28:21,555 That combination of being y'know, not from here, 690 00:28:21,588 --> 00:28:24,921 he's South African, he's Canadian, he's young. 691 00:28:24,955 --> 00:28:28,055 And the aerospace community in my view, 692 00:28:28,088 --> 00:28:30,121 used those things 693 00:28:30,155 --> 00:28:33,255 to try and put more negativity 694 00:28:33,288 --> 00:28:35,388 on him and SpaceX. 695 00:28:35,421 --> 00:28:37,088 They were scared. 696 00:28:37,121 --> 00:28:38,721 Reisman: I remember once we had this meeting with some 697 00:28:38,755 --> 00:28:41,255 NASA officials, some very high level NASA officials, 698 00:28:41,288 --> 00:28:42,888 and they were talking about 699 00:28:42,921 --> 00:28:44,521 how we don't have enough meetings 700 00:28:44,555 --> 00:28:46,121 at SpaceX, and Elon said, 701 00:28:46,155 --> 00:28:47,455 "why do you think we need to have more meetings?" 702 00:28:47,488 --> 00:28:49,121 They said, well, at NASA, 703 00:28:49,155 --> 00:28:50,921 in meetings, that's how we make decisions. 704 00:28:50,955 --> 00:28:52,588 That's how we get stuff done. 705 00:28:52,621 --> 00:28:54,088 And I sat there and I cringed, 706 00:28:54,121 --> 00:28:56,355 you know, having been a former NASA guy, I just knew 707 00:28:56,388 --> 00:28:58,188 what was going through Elon's mind hearing this, 708 00:28:58,221 --> 00:29:00,855 losing respect by the nanosecond. 709 00:29:00,888 --> 00:29:02,355 (laughter) 710 00:29:02,388 --> 00:29:03,588 ♪ 711 00:29:03,621 --> 00:29:06,588 Garver: I was in meetings in the Pentagon for years, 712 00:29:06,621 --> 00:29:10,688 where they would make fun of Elon and me, 713 00:29:10,721 --> 00:29:13,788 for even pushing for NASA 714 00:29:13,821 --> 00:29:16,788 to invest in these new ways 715 00:29:16,821 --> 00:29:18,621 of doing space transportation. 716 00:29:18,655 --> 00:29:21,255 And they believed that they would never, 717 00:29:21,288 --> 00:29:24,355 never trust their very precious 718 00:29:24,388 --> 00:29:28,488 military satellites to... 'that kid.' 719 00:29:28,521 --> 00:29:31,321 And they like to believe what they do was so hard 720 00:29:31,355 --> 00:29:33,788 and so special, and maybe even secret, 721 00:29:33,821 --> 00:29:35,921 that no one else could do it. 722 00:29:35,955 --> 00:29:39,488 ♪ 723 00:29:40,488 --> 00:29:42,521 Urban: Elon predicted they had, you know, 724 00:29:42,555 --> 00:29:44,655 three, maybe four tries, 725 00:29:44,688 --> 00:29:46,021 before he ran out of money. 726 00:29:46,055 --> 00:29:47,621 ♪ 727 00:29:47,655 --> 00:29:48,855 Berger: The first launch attempt 728 00:29:48,888 --> 00:29:51,188 was in March of 2006. 729 00:29:51,221 --> 00:29:52,755 (rocket rumbling) 730 00:29:52,788 --> 00:29:55,021 At that point, the company was not quite four years old. 731 00:29:55,055 --> 00:29:56,621 They'd built their first rocket, 732 00:29:56,655 --> 00:29:59,188 (rocket blast roaring) 733 00:29:59,221 --> 00:30:01,488 and the engine caught on fire 734 00:30:01,521 --> 00:30:02,688 seconds before the launch, 735 00:30:02,721 --> 00:30:04,888 because there was a fuel leak. 736 00:30:06,721 --> 00:30:08,821 The rocket went up for about 30 seconds 737 00:30:08,855 --> 00:30:10,588 and then the engine petered out 738 00:30:10,621 --> 00:30:12,621 and it came crashing back to Earth. 739 00:30:14,455 --> 00:30:16,321 O'Brien: We would look at that and say, oh, that was a failure. 740 00:30:16,355 --> 00:30:20,121 And he was like, "no, that was actually 80% success!" 741 00:30:20,155 --> 00:30:22,821 And if you're not at that kind of ratty edge 742 00:30:22,855 --> 00:30:24,355 of what's possible, 743 00:30:24,388 --> 00:30:27,288 how are you gonna know, until you have a failure? 744 00:30:27,321 --> 00:30:28,688 And this is the insight which 745 00:30:28,721 --> 00:30:31,288 Elon Musk, of course, embraced. 746 00:30:31,321 --> 00:30:33,655 Reisman: At SpaceX, Elon would tell us things like, 747 00:30:33,688 --> 00:30:36,021 "take 15 minutes every day and sit down at your desk 748 00:30:36,055 --> 00:30:37,955 and think about something you've been doing 749 00:30:37,988 --> 00:30:41,155 the same way, for like a year or longer. 750 00:30:41,188 --> 00:30:43,988 You've probably missed an opportunity to do it better." 751 00:30:46,155 --> 00:30:47,321 (rocket roaring) 752 00:30:47,355 --> 00:30:50,255 Berger: After the first launch, they matured a lot. 753 00:30:50,288 --> 00:30:52,488 and they made improvements to the rocket. 754 00:30:52,521 --> 00:30:54,788 And so, they were more confident 755 00:30:54,821 --> 00:30:57,355 by the time they got to the second launch, a year later. 756 00:30:57,388 --> 00:31:00,188 Controller: Three, two, one-- 757 00:31:00,221 --> 00:31:02,188 (rocket roaring) 758 00:31:02,221 --> 00:31:04,255 We have lift off! - We have lift off. 759 00:31:04,288 --> 00:31:06,688 Berger: The first stage performed normally, 760 00:31:06,721 --> 00:31:08,255 it burned for more than two minutes, 761 00:31:08,288 --> 00:31:10,221 got up into space. 762 00:31:10,255 --> 00:31:12,221 And the second stage pulled away. 763 00:31:13,221 --> 00:31:15,521 - Separation! - Stages are separated! 764 00:31:15,555 --> 00:31:16,521 Berger: Things were going great, 765 00:31:16,555 --> 00:31:18,588 but then the second stage started oscillating 766 00:31:18,621 --> 00:31:19,921 and then spinning, 767 00:31:19,955 --> 00:31:23,221 due to a fuel sloshing issue in that upper stage. 768 00:31:23,255 --> 00:31:25,288 And that rocket almost made it to orbit. 769 00:31:26,955 --> 00:31:29,155 Fernholz: Everyone has seen the videos of Elon 770 00:31:29,188 --> 00:31:31,155 trying to make the reusable rocket work, 771 00:31:31,188 --> 00:31:34,721 blowing up again and again, as it crashes into the ocean. 772 00:31:34,755 --> 00:31:37,255 And that would never fly at NASA, 773 00:31:37,288 --> 00:31:39,355 y'know, NASA would have a congressional hearing 774 00:31:39,388 --> 00:31:40,355 and they would be saying, 775 00:31:40,388 --> 00:31:41,655 why are you blowing up these rockets? 776 00:31:41,688 --> 00:31:43,588 We're canceling the program, stop it! 777 00:31:43,621 --> 00:31:45,855 And that's a problem for NASA's culture. 778 00:31:45,888 --> 00:31:47,321 It makes it hard for them to innovate. 779 00:31:47,355 --> 00:31:50,721 Whereas for Elon, you know, he blows up a rocket, 780 00:31:50,755 --> 00:31:51,988 and he makes a joke on Twitter 781 00:31:52,021 --> 00:31:54,288 about rapid unexpected disassembly. 782 00:31:58,088 --> 00:31:59,988 And that is a huge culture clash 783 00:32:00,021 --> 00:32:03,021 between the space establishment and Elon Musk. 784 00:32:04,021 --> 00:32:05,421 Berger: And so, that sets the stage 785 00:32:05,455 --> 00:32:07,555 for the third launch of the Falcon One rocket 786 00:32:07,588 --> 00:32:10,188 in early August of 2008. 787 00:32:10,221 --> 00:32:11,955 ♪ (upbeat dramatic music) ♪ 788 00:32:11,988 --> 00:32:16,721 (rocket engine roaring) ♪ ♪ 789 00:32:16,755 --> 00:32:18,721 They were counting on success. 790 00:32:18,755 --> 00:32:19,888 And what happened was 791 00:32:19,921 --> 00:32:22,121 right when the second stage was supposed to take off 792 00:32:22,155 --> 00:32:25,555 and pull away, the first stage engine shut off, 793 00:32:25,588 --> 00:32:28,621 but then it restarted, and it bumped into the second stage. 794 00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,288 And so they lost that vehicle. 795 00:32:31,988 --> 00:32:33,821 At that point they were almost out of money, 796 00:32:33,855 --> 00:32:35,655 and it was devastating. 797 00:32:35,688 --> 00:32:38,221 Crowley: That was a very difficult year. 798 00:32:38,255 --> 00:32:40,788 Fernholz: Those first three rockets were paid for by 799 00:32:40,821 --> 00:32:42,988 about a hundred million dollars out of his own pocket. 800 00:32:43,021 --> 00:32:44,955 And there was a point where he thought 801 00:32:44,988 --> 00:32:47,221 that was all gonna go down the drain. 802 00:32:47,255 --> 00:32:50,421 Urban: That was probably the worst year of his life. 803 00:32:50,455 --> 00:32:52,455 Fernholz: 2008 was a year where 804 00:32:52,488 --> 00:32:53,955 SpaceX was in trouble, 805 00:32:53,988 --> 00:32:55,321 Tesla was in trouble. 806 00:32:58,855 --> 00:33:01,555 Higgins: There's a debate about what Tesla should become. 807 00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:03,721 Some think the company 808 00:33:03,755 --> 00:33:05,621 perhaps is more valuable 809 00:33:05,655 --> 00:33:07,655 being an automotive supplier, 810 00:33:07,688 --> 00:33:10,021 selling the battery technology to other companies. 811 00:33:10,055 --> 00:33:12,688 Elon wants to ensure 812 00:33:12,721 --> 00:33:15,055 that it is an electric car company 813 00:33:15,088 --> 00:33:17,355 to usher in that new world. 814 00:33:17,388 --> 00:33:20,988 Urban: SpaceX and Tesla are both starting to fail. 815 00:33:21,021 --> 00:33:23,288 Higgins: I remember talking to some people who were, 816 00:33:23,321 --> 00:33:25,455 would watch him on the phone 817 00:33:25,488 --> 00:33:27,555 with his money manager saying, 818 00:33:27,588 --> 00:33:29,821 "we gotta raise money, I gotta make payroll." 819 00:33:29,855 --> 00:33:32,021 Urban: He actually was getting divorced the same year. 820 00:33:33,588 --> 00:33:35,521 Knutsson: Elon had married his college girlfriend. 821 00:33:36,555 --> 00:33:38,521 The marriage lasted eight years. 822 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,521 They had six children total, 823 00:33:45,555 --> 00:33:49,221 including triplets and twins, all boys. 824 00:33:49,255 --> 00:33:51,421 One of those boys passed away of SIDS. 825 00:33:52,888 --> 00:33:54,488 Berger: It was an enormously stressful time 826 00:33:54,521 --> 00:33:56,221 in terms of emotion, 827 00:33:56,255 --> 00:33:58,721 in terms of finances, 828 00:33:58,755 --> 00:34:01,321 and both of his companies were basically failing. 829 00:34:04,755 --> 00:34:08,188 Well, for SpaceX, they had one final chance. 830 00:34:08,221 --> 00:34:11,521 They had the parts for a fourth rocket, 831 00:34:11,555 --> 00:34:15,021 and the team to assemble it and launch it, 832 00:34:15,055 --> 00:34:16,921 but they were out of money. 833 00:34:16,955 --> 00:34:19,755 Like they were, they were weeks away from missing payroll, 834 00:34:19,788 --> 00:34:22,188 and so Elon got his team together the day after that 835 00:34:22,221 --> 00:34:24,388 third failure of the Falcon One and said, 836 00:34:24,421 --> 00:34:25,855 "You have six weeks. 837 00:34:25,888 --> 00:34:27,588 We've gotta build this rocket, 838 00:34:27,621 --> 00:34:30,721 get it to Kwajalein and launch it to orbit, or we're done. 839 00:34:31,521 --> 00:34:34,288 Elon Musk: Late 2008, there was some bad news board meetings. 840 00:34:34,321 --> 00:34:38,088 Look, if we did just one and it didn't work, 841 00:34:38,121 --> 00:34:41,121 then that could have like the opposite effect. 842 00:34:41,155 --> 00:34:43,721 Like, look how dumb it is to, to try to send this to Mars. 843 00:34:43,755 --> 00:34:45,188 Journalist: Right, look at all this money down the drain. 844 00:34:45,221 --> 00:34:46,755 Elon Musk: Yeah! What an idiot! (chuckles) 845 00:34:46,788 --> 00:34:49,755 That was one of the toughest things we wrestled with. 846 00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:53,888 ♪ ♪ 847 00:34:53,921 --> 00:34:55,788 Crowley: In September of that year 848 00:34:55,821 --> 00:34:58,021 comes that last opportunity, 849 00:34:58,055 --> 00:35:00,221 the fourth rocket launch. 850 00:35:00,255 --> 00:35:01,788 And this is it. 851 00:35:01,821 --> 00:35:03,321 This is do or die. 852 00:35:04,888 --> 00:35:06,155 Urban: He thought, you know, if we don't get it 853 00:35:06,188 --> 00:35:07,855 on this fourth try, I don't think we're going to be able 854 00:35:07,888 --> 00:35:09,421 to keep going, because we're going to run out of money. 855 00:35:09,455 --> 00:35:13,121 And, you know, this huge moment for SpaceX and... 856 00:35:13,155 --> 00:35:16,088 and really for, for space travel. 857 00:35:16,121 --> 00:35:19,355 Controller: Three, two, one, zero. 858 00:35:19,388 --> 00:35:21,255 - We're at Stage One! - We have lift off indication! 859 00:35:21,288 --> 00:35:22,588 Berger: The launch is perfect. 860 00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:24,021 Controller: We have lift off! 861 00:35:25,155 --> 00:35:27,088 SpaceX Falcon One launch vehicle, 862 00:35:27,121 --> 00:35:28,655 Falcon has cleared the tower. 863 00:35:28,688 --> 00:35:32,288 Crowley: The rocket takes off and it's a success. 864 00:35:33,821 --> 00:35:35,655 Berger: It gets into orbit, and 865 00:35:35,688 --> 00:35:39,021 it's an enormous moment of success for SpaceX. 866 00:35:39,055 --> 00:35:40,321 Controller: Firing separation confirmed. 867 00:35:40,355 --> 00:35:43,321 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 868 00:35:43,355 --> 00:35:49,488 ♪ ♪ 869 00:35:49,521 --> 00:35:51,188 Berger: It was a relief, 870 00:35:51,221 --> 00:35:54,855 but it just meant that SpaceX was not going to die that day. 871 00:35:55,821 --> 00:35:58,521 Garver: NASA was clearly impressed, 872 00:35:58,555 --> 00:36:01,121 and in the end of 2008, 873 00:36:01,155 --> 00:36:05,088 awarded them $1.6 billion dollars, 874 00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:07,355 to take cargo to the space station. 875 00:36:07,388 --> 00:36:10,755 ♪ (uplifting music) ♪ 876 00:36:10,788 --> 00:36:13,155 Crowley: Now they have a huge customer, 877 00:36:13,188 --> 00:36:15,021 and this is incredibly important. 878 00:36:15,055 --> 00:36:18,255 And then he also learns on Christmas Eve, 879 00:36:18,288 --> 00:36:20,388 that Tesla has now received 880 00:36:20,421 --> 00:36:21,988 a new round of funding 881 00:36:22,021 --> 00:36:24,355 and that company will also be saved. 882 00:36:26,088 --> 00:36:27,621 Knutsson: It was a Christmas miracle. 883 00:36:27,655 --> 00:36:29,188 After being close to their death, 884 00:36:29,221 --> 00:36:31,255 both companies were back in the game. 885 00:36:31,288 --> 00:36:32,921 But they were both costly ventures. 886 00:36:32,955 --> 00:36:35,288 Elon might have to choose which one to save. 887 00:36:35,321 --> 00:36:38,188 I like to call it a billionaire's 'Sophie's choice.' 888 00:36:43,221 --> 00:36:45,255 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 889 00:36:45,288 --> 00:36:48,188 Crowley: You see it all the time, oh, now he's done it. 890 00:36:48,221 --> 00:36:49,855 This is too far. 891 00:36:49,888 --> 00:36:51,455 This is too crazy. 892 00:36:51,488 --> 00:36:53,221 This is too different. 893 00:36:53,255 --> 00:36:54,688 And then he pulls it off. 894 00:36:54,721 --> 00:36:56,155 He's a game changer, 895 00:36:56,188 --> 00:36:58,221 willing to go out on a limb, 896 00:36:58,255 --> 00:37:00,588 and show all of his critics, 897 00:37:00,621 --> 00:37:03,355 that he is the one laughing at the end of the day. 898 00:37:06,621 --> 00:37:08,821 Feresten: Elon Musk kind of took the model 899 00:37:08,855 --> 00:37:10,255 for how to run a business 900 00:37:10,288 --> 00:37:12,788 and threw it out the window, into a wood chipper and said, 901 00:37:12,821 --> 00:37:14,421 "let's make it more efficient." 902 00:37:14,455 --> 00:37:15,988 Tesla is, in my opinion, 903 00:37:16,021 --> 00:37:18,288 single-handedly responsible for this 904 00:37:18,321 --> 00:37:20,055 paradigm shift in, 905 00:37:20,088 --> 00:37:22,288 in how we power cars. 906 00:37:22,321 --> 00:37:26,121 When you walk into SpaceX, it's this giant hangar, 907 00:37:26,155 --> 00:37:28,388 this beehive of activity, 908 00:37:28,421 --> 00:37:30,588 with workers coming in 909 00:37:30,621 --> 00:37:33,821 on 12 hour shifts, other workers leaving and 910 00:37:33,855 --> 00:37:36,555 sometimes sleeping in RV's in the parking lot. 911 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:39,588 But this kind of universal drive, 912 00:37:39,621 --> 00:37:42,455 that we have to get this stuff done, 913 00:37:42,488 --> 00:37:44,255 get it done quickly, 914 00:37:44,288 --> 00:37:46,321 and then get our asses to Mars. 915 00:37:47,921 --> 00:37:49,621 Crowley: There has been controversy 916 00:37:49,655 --> 00:37:52,121 about the amount of work and devotion 917 00:37:52,155 --> 00:37:55,155 that he expects from his team. 918 00:37:56,488 --> 00:37:58,988 Berger: He's extremely demanding. 919 00:37:59,021 --> 00:38:01,388 Reisman: He has a tremendously strong work ethic 920 00:38:01,421 --> 00:38:04,721 and he expects you to live up to those expectations. 921 00:38:04,755 --> 00:38:06,055 Berger: He has a temper. 922 00:38:06,088 --> 00:38:08,921 And if a project is not done on time, 923 00:38:08,955 --> 00:38:11,355 he wants to know why, and who screwed up. 924 00:38:11,388 --> 00:38:12,721 Reisman: And if you fall short, 925 00:38:12,755 --> 00:38:14,688 he will tell you, okay? 926 00:38:16,388 --> 00:38:18,488 To him, your esteem 927 00:38:18,521 --> 00:38:20,355 is completely measured by 928 00:38:20,388 --> 00:38:22,555 your technical aptitude. 929 00:38:22,588 --> 00:38:24,388 And if you demonstrate a weakness, 930 00:38:24,421 --> 00:38:25,755 you'll be shown the door. 931 00:38:27,655 --> 00:38:31,155 Fernholz: I think it's a very interesting blind spot for Elon, 932 00:38:31,188 --> 00:38:34,855 the suffering of his employees sometimes. 933 00:38:34,888 --> 00:38:38,155 In part, because he will suffer alongside of them 934 00:38:38,188 --> 00:38:40,388 and work those 80 or 90 hour weeks. 935 00:38:40,421 --> 00:38:43,721 And he sort of feels like, 'if I can do it, you can too.' 936 00:38:43,755 --> 00:38:46,155 This is just the cost of achieving greatness. 937 00:38:46,188 --> 00:38:49,121 Higgins: And on one hand, they talk about how 938 00:38:49,155 --> 00:38:50,855 just an incredible experience it is. 939 00:38:50,888 --> 00:38:52,521 He's charming, he can be funny. 940 00:38:52,555 --> 00:38:54,988 He's just super inspiring in a way 941 00:38:55,021 --> 00:38:56,955 that they just haven't had before. 942 00:38:56,988 --> 00:38:58,155 On the other hand, 943 00:38:58,188 --> 00:39:01,455 he's a nano-manager who has a temper 944 00:39:01,488 --> 00:39:05,221 that can be triggered by seemingly random things. 945 00:39:06,388 --> 00:39:07,955 Crowley: From Elon's perspective, 946 00:39:07,988 --> 00:39:09,588 it's a race against the clock. 947 00:39:10,888 --> 00:39:12,355 Berger: He realizes that 948 00:39:12,388 --> 00:39:14,721 to actually get humans to Mars, 949 00:39:14,755 --> 00:39:16,921 it's going to take most of his adult life. 950 00:39:16,955 --> 00:39:18,088 And he has a finite amount of time. 951 00:39:18,121 --> 00:39:19,721 He doesn't know how long he's gonna live, 952 00:39:19,755 --> 00:39:21,955 he doesn't know how long funding will be available. 953 00:39:21,988 --> 00:39:23,421 Crowley: Those are the stakes. 954 00:39:23,455 --> 00:39:25,755 That's the pressure, that's the timeline. 955 00:39:25,788 --> 00:39:28,955 And Elon has intimated several times, that you, 956 00:39:28,988 --> 00:39:31,388 you can't do it on 40 hours a week. 957 00:39:32,421 --> 00:39:35,688 Berger: His response to that is going as fast as possible. 958 00:39:35,721 --> 00:39:38,021 Reisman: He said several times to the entire staff, 959 00:39:38,055 --> 00:39:39,955 if you're in a meeting, and you feel like your time 960 00:39:39,988 --> 00:39:42,088 is not being well spent, get up and leave. 961 00:39:42,121 --> 00:39:45,788 Do not apologize, do not make excuses, just walk out. 962 00:39:45,821 --> 00:39:47,288 He's so determined to accomplish those goals, 963 00:39:47,321 --> 00:39:49,188 that if it hurts somebody's feelings, 964 00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:50,821 that's not going to stop him. He'll do it. 965 00:39:55,321 --> 00:39:57,621 Higgins: Elon Musk is all about defiance, 966 00:39:57,655 --> 00:40:01,988 whether he's fighting rivals or regulators or, 967 00:40:03,321 --> 00:40:05,521 you know the media, he's not gonna hold back. 968 00:40:05,555 --> 00:40:08,455 And Twitter is his most potent tool. 969 00:40:08,488 --> 00:40:10,055 He's a guy that likes drama, 970 00:40:10,088 --> 00:40:12,921 he's a guy that likes attention, 971 00:40:12,955 --> 00:40:16,055 he likes the thrill of it all, it would seem. 972 00:40:19,821 --> 00:40:21,788 If somebody is attacking him on Twitter, 973 00:40:21,821 --> 00:40:24,288 he has a very hard time letting go. 974 00:40:24,321 --> 00:40:26,088 Urban: People get upset about, "why are you 975 00:40:26,121 --> 00:40:27,221 acting this way on Twitter, 976 00:40:27,255 --> 00:40:29,121 why are you, you know, doing things that, 977 00:40:29,155 --> 00:40:30,388 you know, you shouldn't?" 978 00:40:30,421 --> 00:40:32,455 Well, they're trying to get him to be more conformist, 979 00:40:32,488 --> 00:40:36,021 to conform to the kind of 'way people are supposed to be,' 980 00:40:36,055 --> 00:40:38,688 which is the direct opposite of 981 00:40:38,721 --> 00:40:40,555 what has gotten him where he is. 982 00:40:40,588 --> 00:40:42,421 Elon Musk: Look, I know I sometimes say or post 983 00:40:42,455 --> 00:40:44,755 strange things, but that's just how my brain works. 984 00:40:44,788 --> 00:40:47,355 To anyone I've offended, I just wanna say, 985 00:40:47,388 --> 00:40:49,288 I reinvented electric cars 986 00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:51,188 and I'm sending people to Mars in a rocketship. 987 00:40:51,221 --> 00:40:53,788 Did you think I was also going to be a chill, normal dude? 988 00:40:56,255 --> 00:40:57,755 Higgins: If he thinks that 989 00:40:57,788 --> 00:41:00,821 Tesla or any part of his empire 990 00:41:00,855 --> 00:41:02,488 is in danger, 991 00:41:02,521 --> 00:41:04,455 he's going to defend himself. 992 00:41:04,488 --> 00:41:07,455 ♪ (slow dramatic music) ♪ 993 00:41:07,488 --> 00:41:10,188 ♪ 994 00:41:10,221 --> 00:41:13,588 Elon Musk: A future where we are a space-faring civilization, 995 00:41:13,621 --> 00:41:15,855 and out there among the stars 996 00:41:15,888 --> 00:41:18,088 is infinitely more exciting and inspiring 997 00:41:18,121 --> 00:41:20,488 than one where we are not. 998 00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:22,155 You basically, I think, have to hate humanity 999 00:41:22,188 --> 00:41:23,421 if you don't like that future. 1000 00:41:23,455 --> 00:41:25,121 Knutsson: The vision for SpaceX was simple. 1001 00:41:25,155 --> 00:41:27,155 You need to first send up cargo 1002 00:41:27,188 --> 00:41:29,655 and then deliver people safely. 1003 00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:31,621 And if he's gonna colonize Mars, 1004 00:41:31,655 --> 00:41:35,188 he's got to send lots of cargo, and then people. 1005 00:41:36,988 --> 00:41:39,021 Berger: The Falcon One rocket is not big enough 1006 00:41:39,055 --> 00:41:40,455 to send cargo to orbit. 1007 00:41:40,488 --> 00:41:42,521 And so they had to build a much larger rocket, 1008 00:41:42,555 --> 00:41:43,955 which became the Falcon Nine. 1009 00:41:43,988 --> 00:41:46,188 Fernholz: The Falcon Heavy is the largest rocket 1010 00:41:46,221 --> 00:41:48,655 that any private company has ever built. 1011 00:41:48,688 --> 00:41:50,121 It is a complex rocket 1012 00:41:50,155 --> 00:41:52,621 that a lot of people were worried would not work. 1013 00:41:52,655 --> 00:41:54,388 It would blow up on the launch pad. 1014 00:41:55,255 --> 00:41:56,855 For a normal rocket company, 1015 00:41:56,888 --> 00:41:59,455 they would use something called a mass simulator. 1016 00:41:59,488 --> 00:42:02,588 They'd just put a big metal box on top of the rocket and say, 1017 00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,188 this weighs as much as a satellite, 1018 00:42:04,221 --> 00:42:06,021 we've proved that it works. 1019 00:42:06,055 --> 00:42:07,588 But Elon Musk is a showman, 1020 00:42:07,621 --> 00:42:09,855 and so instead of a metal box, 1021 00:42:09,888 --> 00:42:13,288 he put a Tesla with a mannequin inside, 1022 00:42:13,321 --> 00:42:15,521 and launched it on a trajectory 1023 00:42:15,555 --> 00:42:16,855 to pass by Mars. 1024 00:42:16,888 --> 00:42:19,121 (rocket engine roaring) 1025 00:42:19,155 --> 00:42:21,221 Knutsson: I remember being in the newsroom that day. 1026 00:42:21,255 --> 00:42:23,155 Even the most jaded news people 1027 00:42:23,188 --> 00:42:24,821 were glued to the TV set, 1028 00:42:24,855 --> 00:42:26,888 to watch this rocket go up, 1029 00:42:26,921 --> 00:42:28,488 with a Roadster inside, 1030 00:42:28,521 --> 00:42:30,588 it makes it to space! 1031 00:42:30,621 --> 00:42:33,055 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 1032 00:42:33,088 --> 00:42:34,988 Berger: The image of a mannequin 1033 00:42:35,021 --> 00:42:36,921 sitting at the wheel of a Tesla 1034 00:42:36,955 --> 00:42:39,088 in space was incredibly iconic, 1035 00:42:39,121 --> 00:42:40,888 and like, was shared around the world, 1036 00:42:40,921 --> 00:42:43,388 because it was just so wild to look at. 1037 00:42:43,421 --> 00:42:46,555 ♪ ♪ 1038 00:42:46,588 --> 00:42:48,321 Fernholz: It was not enough to say, 1039 00:42:48,355 --> 00:42:50,755 we're doing what a space company has never done before 1040 00:42:50,788 --> 00:42:52,655 and launching this huge rocket. 1041 00:42:52,688 --> 00:42:54,255 We're also going to, by the way, 1042 00:42:54,288 --> 00:42:56,221 show off, my electric car. 1043 00:42:56,255 --> 00:42:58,021 And then you'd see the rocket come down 1044 00:42:58,055 --> 00:42:59,688 and actually land on a landing pad, 1045 00:42:59,721 --> 00:43:02,488 folding out its little feet. 1046 00:43:02,521 --> 00:43:05,155 It looked like something out of a 1047 00:43:05,188 --> 00:43:07,455 science fiction film from the 1960's. 1048 00:43:07,988 --> 00:43:10,121 This was actually rocket reusability. 1049 00:43:11,855 --> 00:43:13,055 Elon Musk: I've thought about what are the things 1050 00:43:13,088 --> 00:43:15,121 that are most gonna affect the future of humanity. 1051 00:43:15,155 --> 00:43:17,388 And the three things I came up with were the internet, 1052 00:43:17,421 --> 00:43:19,955 transitioning to a sustainable energy economy, 1053 00:43:19,988 --> 00:43:21,955 and the third was space exploration. 1054 00:43:21,988 --> 00:43:24,488 Pressman: When everybody said Tesla was gonna go bankrupt, 1055 00:43:24,521 --> 00:43:27,055 there wasn't a lot of faith that Tesla was going to make it. 1056 00:43:27,088 --> 00:43:30,121 And it turns out that there was something there. 1057 00:43:30,155 --> 00:43:31,821 Elon Musk: The strategy I had was to 1058 00:43:31,855 --> 00:43:34,121 start off with a high price, 1059 00:43:34,155 --> 00:43:36,055 low volume car, being the sports car, 1060 00:43:36,088 --> 00:43:38,155 and then Phase Two was the Model S, 1061 00:43:38,188 --> 00:43:40,255 and that's mid-price, mid-volume. 1062 00:43:40,288 --> 00:43:43,121 And then Phase Three is the 1063 00:43:43,155 --> 00:43:45,055 high volume, low price car. 1064 00:43:45,088 --> 00:43:47,155 Higgins: There's so many reasons why they should fail, 1065 00:43:47,188 --> 00:43:50,421 or why, questions on why haven't they failed? 1066 00:43:50,455 --> 00:43:53,421 And people are, you know, not wrong when they point to 1067 00:43:53,455 --> 00:43:55,488 the shortcomings of the company. 1068 00:43:55,521 --> 00:43:58,621 They do have some problems, their service is not very great, 1069 00:43:58,655 --> 00:44:00,255 they've got quality issues. 1070 00:44:00,288 --> 00:44:03,688 On the other hand, they have a car that you can go buy 1071 00:44:03,721 --> 00:44:06,455 and people are buying and are being attracted to. 1072 00:44:06,488 --> 00:44:07,955 They've created a brand, 1073 00:44:07,988 --> 00:44:10,855 that resonates with people around the world. 1074 00:44:12,755 --> 00:44:15,355 Pressman: Somehow he can come up with really unique, 1075 00:44:15,388 --> 00:44:19,055 and interesting, often disruptive solutions. 1076 00:44:19,088 --> 00:44:21,055 That's what he's done with Tesla. 1077 00:44:21,088 --> 00:44:23,355 That's what he's done with SpaceX. 1078 00:44:29,088 --> 00:44:31,355 Berger: The first step was cargo, but then NASA 1079 00:44:31,388 --> 00:44:34,888 started planning seriously about a commercial crew program 1080 00:44:34,921 --> 00:44:37,455 to use private vendors to get astronauts into space. 1081 00:44:37,488 --> 00:44:40,721 And SpaceX was among several bidders for that. 1082 00:44:40,755 --> 00:44:43,721 SpaceX was the upstart, the new space, 1083 00:44:43,755 --> 00:44:45,788 the commercial space company, and Boeing was very much 1084 00:44:45,821 --> 00:44:47,855 the blue-blood traditional provider. 1085 00:44:50,055 --> 00:44:52,655 Boeing got $4.2 billion from NASA 1086 00:44:52,688 --> 00:44:55,221 and SpaceX got $2.6 billion. 1087 00:44:55,255 --> 00:44:58,955 ♪ (dramatic music) ♪ 1088 00:44:58,988 --> 00:45:00,388 And SpaceX, 1089 00:45:00,421 --> 00:45:03,188 this nimble, fast moving, 1090 00:45:03,221 --> 00:45:05,688 y'know, upstart company, lo and behold, 1091 00:45:05,721 --> 00:45:08,755 beat Boeing by a couple of years, with far less money. 1092 00:45:09,955 --> 00:45:12,588 Knutsson: The Dragon launch, this wasn't a car, 1093 00:45:12,621 --> 00:45:14,555 these were humans. 1094 00:45:14,588 --> 00:45:17,588 Fernholz: So, as the first flight on SpaceX's 1095 00:45:17,621 --> 00:45:19,355 crew Dragon approached, 1096 00:45:19,388 --> 00:45:21,055 nerves were through the roof. 1097 00:45:21,088 --> 00:45:23,688 Controller: Three, two, one, 1098 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,455 zero, ignition. 1099 00:45:25,488 --> 00:45:27,555 Lift off of the Falcon 9 1100 00:45:27,588 --> 00:45:29,855 and crew Dragon, go NASA! 1101 00:45:29,888 --> 00:45:31,455 Reisman: And lo and behold, it actually worked. 1102 00:45:32,888 --> 00:45:34,188 It cost the taxpayer 1103 00:45:34,221 --> 00:45:35,688 more than ten times less money, 1104 00:45:35,721 --> 00:45:38,121 than they projected it would have, 1105 00:45:38,155 --> 00:45:39,688 if they did it the traditional way. 1106 00:45:39,721 --> 00:45:41,955 And it turned out to be a huge success. 1107 00:45:41,988 --> 00:45:44,955 Fernholz: The jubilation at SpaceX and at NASA 1108 00:45:44,988 --> 00:45:46,588 was just through the roof, 1109 00:45:46,621 --> 00:45:49,288 that they had accomplished this technical goal 1110 00:45:49,321 --> 00:45:53,388 and proven that this model of public-private partnerships 1111 00:45:53,421 --> 00:45:54,855 in space can succeed. 1112 00:45:54,888 --> 00:45:58,388 (computers beeping) 1113 00:45:58,421 --> 00:46:01,855 Garver: Human space flight for NASA has been sort of 1114 00:46:01,888 --> 00:46:04,621 the heart and soul of the agency. 1115 00:46:05,688 --> 00:46:08,688 And launching the astronauts 1116 00:46:08,721 --> 00:46:10,621 to the space station 1117 00:46:10,655 --> 00:46:13,621 was an amazing achievement. 1118 00:46:14,821 --> 00:46:16,821 When they returned safely, 1119 00:46:16,855 --> 00:46:18,421 was when I finally could 1120 00:46:18,455 --> 00:46:20,988 let out a breath and there is no doubt, 1121 00:46:21,021 --> 00:46:23,855 it is a game changer. 1122 00:46:23,888 --> 00:46:25,821 James L. Green: This is a huge step for us. 1123 00:46:25,855 --> 00:46:28,755 And I think it's important for the world to realize, 1124 00:46:28,788 --> 00:46:31,855 that we're going into space to stay, 1125 00:46:31,888 --> 00:46:33,621 and we're going to continue on 1126 00:46:33,655 --> 00:46:34,921 to then the Moon, 1127 00:46:34,955 --> 00:46:36,255 and then onto Mars. 1128 00:46:36,288 --> 00:46:42,621 ♪ (upbeat dramatic music) ♪ 1129 00:46:42,655 --> 00:46:45,155 Berger: He's made space flight cool again. 1130 00:46:45,188 --> 00:46:47,921 And I think he's had an enormous impact 1131 00:46:47,955 --> 00:46:49,788 in changing the mindset 1132 00:46:49,821 --> 00:46:51,655 of what is possible. 1133 00:46:52,988 --> 00:46:54,188 Knutsson: Just look at the Starship, 1134 00:46:54,221 --> 00:46:56,188 the rocket that's going to take us to Mars. 1135 00:46:56,221 --> 00:46:58,288 It's as if it's ripped right out of 1136 00:46:58,321 --> 00:46:59,921 the fantasy books he used to read. 1137 00:46:59,955 --> 00:47:02,888 Tim Urban: It is a 36-story skyscraper, 1138 00:47:03,755 --> 00:47:05,888 that goes into space. 1139 00:47:05,921 --> 00:47:08,988 That thing...goes up in the air 1140 00:47:09,021 --> 00:47:11,355 and then 16 stories of it 1141 00:47:11,388 --> 00:47:13,855 gets pinged off 1142 00:47:13,888 --> 00:47:17,555 into space to head to Mars. 1143 00:47:17,588 --> 00:47:19,255 It lands on Mars, 1144 00:47:19,288 --> 00:47:22,421 it can then take people, launch off Mars, 1145 00:47:22,455 --> 00:47:24,688 and come back to Earth and land on Earth. 1146 00:47:24,721 --> 00:47:26,255 This is the new 1960's. 1147 00:47:26,288 --> 00:47:27,888 We're about to have a 1148 00:47:27,921 --> 00:47:30,555 new Neil Armstrong of some kind 1149 00:47:30,588 --> 00:47:33,421 land on Mars. 1150 00:47:33,455 --> 00:47:35,021 Berger: You know, SpaceX has never lost 1151 00:47:35,055 --> 00:47:37,988 that founder's mentality. It's gone from starting with 1152 00:47:38,021 --> 00:47:41,255 three employees, to now almost 10,000. 1153 00:47:41,288 --> 00:47:43,488 I mean, they are now the establishment 1154 00:47:43,521 --> 00:47:44,821 in the space industry. 1155 00:47:44,855 --> 00:47:47,555 They're probably NASA's most important contractor now, 1156 00:47:47,588 --> 00:47:49,088 and certainly will be in the future. 1157 00:47:49,121 --> 00:47:51,755 They launch far more rockets than any company 1158 00:47:51,788 --> 00:47:53,355 or country in the world. 1159 00:47:53,388 --> 00:47:56,321 But, they're not resting on those laurels. 1160 00:47:56,355 --> 00:47:58,255 There's still this underlying culture 1161 00:47:58,288 --> 00:48:00,288 that is driving them to be 1162 00:48:00,321 --> 00:48:02,121 the upstarts, the renegades. 1163 00:48:02,155 --> 00:48:03,588 And you have to put that all back on 1164 00:48:03,621 --> 00:48:05,621 Elon Musk and his personality. 1165 00:48:05,655 --> 00:48:07,588 Elon Musk: Human space flight is the, is the reason 1166 00:48:07,621 --> 00:48:09,388 that SpaceX was created. 1167 00:48:09,421 --> 00:48:12,155 Crowley: It will be interesting to see 1168 00:48:12,188 --> 00:48:15,588 what this next half of his life is like. 1169 00:48:21,155 --> 00:48:24,588 Higgins: Elon's talked about how he probably has too many ideas. 1170 00:48:24,621 --> 00:48:26,121 I've talked to people who say, 1171 00:48:26,155 --> 00:48:28,088 y'know, you'll be in one of these moments 1172 00:48:28,121 --> 00:48:31,355 and you just kind of see that light kind of go on, 1173 00:48:31,388 --> 00:48:33,555 where he's coming up with an idea. 1174 00:48:33,588 --> 00:48:35,255 Knutsson: Tell me one other person 1175 00:48:35,288 --> 00:48:37,655 that has reinvented space travel, 1176 00:48:39,021 --> 00:48:42,188 created the first all-electric car company, 1177 00:48:43,821 --> 00:48:46,188 figured out transportation underground, 1178 00:48:46,221 --> 00:48:48,288 put satellites in the air, 1179 00:48:48,321 --> 00:48:50,021 providing the internet to everybody, 1180 00:48:51,021 --> 00:48:53,155 solar panels on the roof. 1181 00:48:53,188 --> 00:48:54,888 Who's done all this? 1182 00:48:54,921 --> 00:48:57,155 Higgins: There is no Tesla-tomorrow. 1183 00:48:57,188 --> 00:49:01,288 Elon Musk and Tesla have won the day. 1184 00:49:01,321 --> 00:49:03,955 You see General Motors, Volkswagen, Mercedes, 1185 00:49:03,988 --> 00:49:05,588 all these companies racing 1186 00:49:05,621 --> 00:49:07,888 to invest their fortunes 1187 00:49:07,921 --> 00:49:09,788 in bringing out electric cars. 1188 00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:12,355 Tesla and Elon Musk have convinced the world 1189 00:49:12,388 --> 00:49:14,821 that the car should be electrified. 1190 00:49:14,855 --> 00:49:17,555 Berger: He did the same thing with the space industry. 1191 00:49:17,588 --> 00:49:20,655 He completely disrupted Boeing, Lockheed Martin, 1192 00:49:20,688 --> 00:49:22,955 Northrop Grumman, Russia! 1193 00:49:22,988 --> 00:49:26,321 Just completely upended their entire businesses. 1194 00:49:26,355 --> 00:49:28,455 No one was sitting around, inviting him in. 1195 00:49:28,488 --> 00:49:30,721 He had to sort of, be a bull in a china shop. 1196 00:49:30,755 --> 00:49:33,488 Knutsson: He brought a rock and roll swagger 1197 00:49:33,521 --> 00:49:35,055 to the world of business 1198 00:49:35,088 --> 00:49:37,221 like the business world has never seen. 1199 00:49:38,921 --> 00:49:41,055 Reisman: Elon will view himself as a failure 1200 00:49:41,088 --> 00:49:43,288 if he doesn't fundamentally change the course 1201 00:49:43,321 --> 00:49:46,055 of human history of, of how we all live our lives. 1202 00:49:46,088 --> 00:49:49,055 Garver: He made more money than I'm sure 1203 00:49:49,088 --> 00:49:51,321 he envisioned in his life. 1204 00:49:51,355 --> 00:49:53,321 And what does he want to do? 1205 00:49:53,355 --> 00:49:55,988 Expand humanity and take those first steps. 1206 00:49:56,021 --> 00:49:59,088 That's an unbelievable thing for an individual to do. 1207 00:50:00,055 --> 00:50:01,721 Fernholz: If you were to ask Elon, he'll tell you 1208 00:50:01,755 --> 00:50:03,455 he'll end up in history as the first man 1209 00:50:03,488 --> 00:50:04,855 to build a city on Mars. 1210 00:50:04,888 --> 00:50:07,121 Crowley: For anyone out there, whether you like him 1211 00:50:07,155 --> 00:50:09,055 or you don't like him, 1212 00:50:09,088 --> 00:50:10,821 that's not taking him seriously, 1213 00:50:10,855 --> 00:50:14,188 they're missing an opportunity to understand 1214 00:50:14,221 --> 00:50:16,488 one of the greatest minds that is 1215 00:50:16,521 --> 00:50:19,955 shaping life on Earth and maybe elsewhere. 1216 00:50:19,988 --> 00:50:24,221 ♪ (triumphant uplifting music) ♪ 1217 00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:33,855 ♪ ♪ 1218 00:50:37,321 --> 00:50:42,221 ♪ ♪ 1219 00:50:42,255 --> 00:50:46,621 ♪ ♪ 1220 00:50:46,655 --> 00:50:48,455 Announcer: To order In Their Own Words 1221 00:50:48,488 --> 00:50:50,888 Season Two on DVD 1222 00:50:50,921 --> 00:50:52,888 visit ShopPBS or call 1223 00:50:52,921 --> 00:50:55,188 1-800-PLAY-PBS 1224 00:50:55,221 --> 00:50:57,121 This program is also available 1225 00:50:57,155 --> 00:50:58,788 on Amazon Prime video. 1226 00:50:58,821 --> 00:51:02,721 ♪ ♪ 1227 00:51:06,455 --> 00:51:08,888 In Their Own Words was made possible in part 1228 00:51:08,921 --> 00:51:11,521 by contributions to your PBS station 1229 00:51:11,555 --> 00:51:13,955 from viewers like you. 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