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In Their Own Words
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Spike Feresten:
What is it about Elon Musk?
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He's at once a
genius and a fool.
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(audience cheering)
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Narrator: He is
quite possibly the most
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polarizing public figure
in business today.
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Elon Musk: Doing a startup is,
at the beginning,
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it's like eating glass and
staring into the abyss.
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Tim Higgins: It depends on the
day, he's either the hero
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or the villain.
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And that's why he's such
a complicated figure.
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Narrator: Love him or hate him,
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Elon Musk is in a
relentless pursuit
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to change life on Earth
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by giving us a chance
to leave it behind.
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- Lift off!
- And lift off!
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Elon Musk: I've thought about
what are the things that are
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most gonna affect the
future of humanity?
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And the three things I came up
with were the internet,
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transitioning to a sustainable
energy economy,
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and the third was
space exploration.
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Eric Berger: He feels as long as
humans are on one planet,
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we're vulnerable to all
sorts of catastrophes.
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- Three...Two...One...Zero!
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- We're at Stage One!
- Good lift off indication.
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(rocket roaring)
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We have liftoff!
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Tim Urban: To Elon, it is so
obvious that you have to try
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to keep the light of
human consciousness alive.
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And it would be so sad, so
utterly heartbreaking if it,
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if it went out like a candle.
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Narrator: Bullied as a teen,
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young Elon escaped by
immersing himself
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in fantastical stories
about the future.
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Anna Crowley: It becomes
part of a bigger inquiry
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into where we are
as a civilization,
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as humanity, and where
we should be going.
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Narrator: His drive to succeed,
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coupled with a sharp mind,
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would propel him to early
success in the tech world.
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Higgins: It's almost as if he
delights in showing the world
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that he can do something
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that people said was impossible.
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Narrator:
As the money rolled in,
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Elon set his sights
on the future
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he had read about years before.
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But like all disrupters,
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his path hasn't been easy.
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No one could stand in the way
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of his boundless vision
of a new world.
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Higgins: Elon Musk
is all about defiance,
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he's not gonna hold back.
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Tim Fernholz: I think that's
a very interesting
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blind spot for Elon,
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the suffering of his
employees sometimes.
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Narrator: But Elon Musk
remains unapologetic...
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Garrett Reisman: He's so
determined to accomplish
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those goals that if it
hurts somebody's feelings,
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that's not gonna stop him.
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Narrator: ...and ever driven
to reach beyond
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what anyone but him
thought was possible.
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Higgins: Building
rockets to go into space,
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building sports cars,
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dating actresses,
appearing on TV.
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He is living every
nerdy boy's dream life.
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(explosion)
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Tim Fernholz: The first three
rockets were paid for
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by about a hundred million
dollars out of his own pocket.
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And there was a point
where he thought
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that was all gonna
go down the drain.
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2008 was a year where
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SpaceX was in trouble,
Tesla was in trouble--
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Tim Urban: Both
starting to fail.
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Crowley: At the same time,
personally,
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he is going through
a high profile,
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expensive divorce.
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Tim Urban: That was probably
the worst year of his life.
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Berger: So for SpaceX,
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they had one final chance.
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They had the parts
for a fourth rocket,
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but they were out of money.
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Like they were...weeks away
from missing payroll,
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so Elon said,
you have six weeks.
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We gotta build this rocket,
and launch it to orbit,
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or we're done.
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Controller: Five...four...
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Crowley: This is it,
this is do or die.
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Controller: Three...two...
one...zero.
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Crowley: Elon Musk was born in
Pretoria, South Africa.
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When he was 8 years old,
his parents divorced,
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and Elon was desperately
unhappy at home.
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Tim Urban: Elon was picked on,
and beaten up
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as a teen in school.
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He read a ton of sci-fi,
and still does.
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I think he, like a lot of
people who are building things
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for the future, whether it's
in science or in tech,
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they find sci-fi to be
an inspiration,
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because the sci-fi writers are
professional imagination people.
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Kurt Knutsson: The fantastical
escapism of these novels
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is what sparked a
life-long interest
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in the trajectory of the
human race.
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Crowley: It becomes part of
a bigger
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investigation and inquiry
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into where we are
as a civilization,
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as humanity, and where
we should be going.
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And he started to see
this pattern,
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that an unlikely hero
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come out from last place,
and save the world.
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Berger: He grew up
in the 1970's and 80's...
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with the Jetsons, the Space
Shuttle was coming online,
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it was gonna open up
the solar system.
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He could envision this
bright future of humans
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as a multi-planetary
space-faring species.
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How I would react to that,
I'd go watch Star Wars
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or just something like
that to give me
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that kind of adrenaline burst.
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But his mindset is,
well, this is a problem,
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what can we do to solve it?
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Knutsson: But for Elon,
it wasn't all fantasy,
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he had a natural aptitude
for math and science.
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It was off the charts.
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Higgins: They called him
'encyclopedia,'
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because he memorized
the encyclopedia
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and you can imagine
a situation,
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where you got this kid who's
got a lot of intelligence,
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he has talked about how at
times he felt like perhaps
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he was crazy, because he had
all these wild ideas,
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and he realized other
people didn't have
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the same kind of thing.
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Musk: I actually had a computer
and it was a Commodore Vic 20,
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then I got some books on how to
teach yourself programming.
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And this was like the coolest
thing I'd ever seen.
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Maye Musk: He'd spent most of
the time on the computer,
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and then he wrote his first
computer program at 12.
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He showed it to me and
I was at the university,
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then doing my Master
of Science degree,
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and I showed it to the
engineering students
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and they said "Oh, he knows
all the shortcuts!"
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So, I said to Elon
you should submit it
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to a computer magazine,
and he did!
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Matt Pressman:
He actually programmed
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a video game called Blastar
by himself
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and he sold that video game
for $500.
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So his first
entrepreneurial venture
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was when he was 12 years old.
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Knutsson: When Elon was 17,
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his genius earned him
a scholarship
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to Queen's University in Canada.
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Crowley: When Elon is at
Queen's University in Ontario,
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he gets an internship at
the Bank of Nova Scotia.
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And as is typical with Elon,
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he spends the summer learning
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everything he can about banking.
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Knutsson: After two years
at Queen's, Elon heads off
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to the University of
Pennsylvania for a dual degree
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he earns in both physics
and economics.
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Four years later, he's off to
Silicon Valley,
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where he's at
Stanford University,
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and he's pursuing a Ph.D.
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Crowley: Being at Stanford
at that time in the 90's
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was like a golden ticket.
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Knutsson: This thing
called the internet,
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it was so far-fetched
to most people,
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but it wasn't for Elon Musk.
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Crowley: He decides to
leave Stanford on day two.
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Urban: When it comes to school,
he sees it as a data download.
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It's a way to...
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get knowledge, right?
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But there's lots of ways
to get knowledge.
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he said is that he thinks
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school is a slow data download,
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like an incredibly inefficient
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way to get that data.
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Knutsson:
In 1995, Silicon Valley
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was full of 20-somethings.
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They had dreams and ideas,
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and what they were doing
is creating the digital age.
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Crowley:
There is so much happening
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in terms of developing
technology
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to be used on the internet.
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Man: The Valley is where it's
all happening at the moment
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in terms of the internet, and
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the companies and the things
they're doing over here are six,
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six months to a year ahead of
what we're doing in the UK.
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Elon Musk: At the time in '95,
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nobody was making any money
on the internet.
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And in fact, when we
tried to get funding,
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more than half of the venture
capitalists we met with
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did not know what the internet
was and had not used it.
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Crowley: When you think of
internet tech startup,
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you might think of like
Google's headquarters,
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hanging out, gaming together.
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This was not that situation.
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Knutsson: They weren't
thinking about
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what money they'd
earn from this.
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They wanted to
change the future,
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and that's what
was important.
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Crowley: Kimbal and Elon
were living
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in their tiny office,
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and it was very
cramped quarters.
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They were across the street
from a fitness club,
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so they could go there
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during the day
and have a shower.
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It was bare bones.
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Urban: You know, the classic
scrappy startup story.
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Knutsson:
For just about four years,
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they're on the phone,
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trying to teach internet 101
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to just about any
customer or investor.
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Crowley: It was a huge hurdle
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to overcome explaining that.
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Knutsson: Newspapers
saw the potential,
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early adopters at
digitizing articles,
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so Elon sells them on it,
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they pay him a bunch of money.
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Elon takes some of that money
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for R&D of his next idea,
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digitizing phone books.
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Crowley: If you think back to
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that period of time,
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if people wanted to
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you had to open something
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called the Yellow Pages,
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which were paid ads in this
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paper, physical book.
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what if you used the internet
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to give you the listing
of your business,
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and turn by turn directions
to get there?
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Knutsson: Elon, along with his
younger brother Kimbal,
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who he'd convinced
to join him from Canada,
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created Zip2.
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Crowley: This was
revolutionary thinking.
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It was a brand new idea.
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Knutsson: Compaq Computers
understood the value
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of digitizing information like
phone books,
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so they end up buying Zip2.
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Crowley: Elon sold that company
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for $307 million dollars.
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And he personally made
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$22 million from
the sale of Zip2.
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Knutsson: This is the beginning
of a process
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that Elon Musk would
use for success.
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Make it, and then sink it all
into the next venture.
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Feresten: People say that he
sunk all of that money
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into his company. No!
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He bought a million dollar
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McLaren F1...
(chuckles)
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first!
(laughs)
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Which I admire. I like that!
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Elon Musk: Wow, I can't
believe it's actually here.
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It's pretty wild, man!
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There are 62 McLarens
in the world,
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and I will own one of them.
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(engine revving smoothly)
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It's just a moment in my life!
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Knutsson: After the McLaren,
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he goes all in
on his next mission.
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Crowley: So Elon decides to
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take this windfall,
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and invest it in a new startup,
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which he called x.com
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Knutsson: In 1999, the idea
of telling somebody
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that their money is gonna be
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online in some form,
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was outrageous and
completely foreign.
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Crowley: If you wanted
to buy something,
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that was in California, and
you're sitting in New York,
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you had two options.
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You could send a paper check
in the mail
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and they would wait,
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or you could call them
over the phone,
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and give them your
credit card number
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and hope that you are working
with a reputable person.
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Those were your options.
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Elon began to think
about his internship
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for the bank of Nova Scotia
and what he learned there,
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and he realizes that
the internet
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is a perfect vehicle for
moving money around
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in a digital way.
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Knutsson:
On Thanksgiving in 1999,
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Elon launches x.com.
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Despite it being way
ahead of its time,
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a hundred thousand people
sign up within 30 days.
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- A big, big X.
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Elon Musk: Exactly! X.com!
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Knutsson: Around the same time
there's another
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digital payment startup
called Confinity,
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a tech entrepreneur named
Peter Thiel is behind it.
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What Elon loves is
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how easy to use
their interface is,
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so he merges x.com
with Confinity.
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Crowley: This company goes
through a name change
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and becomes PayPal.
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It was rough going,
getting the two teams
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who had been die-hard
competitors
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on the same page.
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Higgins: Meanwhile,
his girlfriend Justine,
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she eventually comes out
to Silicon Valley
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where he has started
his companies,
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she's there alongside him,
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they tie the knot,
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and on the way to the honeymoon,
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his colleagues at PayPal
felt like
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he was making things
overly complex,
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and they didn't like his,
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his management style in general.
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towards his honeymoon,
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there essentially was a coup,
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and he was booted
from the role as CEO.
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He flies back, deals with that.
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So ultimately, then they
try to take another honeymoon,
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and on this honeymoon,
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he gets malaria that
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by all accounts,
nearly does him in.
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And on his near death bed,
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he is thinking about
what he's done with his life
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and what he could do next,
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and this is where you kind of
see the origins
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of kind of the next chapter
of his life.
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He wants to take big chances
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and try to have an
impact for the world.
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Crowley: So he's out
of the company as CEO,
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but stays on as an advisor.
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When eBay buys PayPal,
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Elon makes $180 million
from that sale.
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Fernholz: If I had
$100 million dollars,
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I would retire to Tahiti.
It would be great.
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Elon Musk: The idea of lying
on a beach as my main thing,
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just sounds horrible to me.
I would go bonkers.
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I would have to be
on serious drugs.
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Fernholz: Elon took it all
and put it into
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the riskiest business
imaginable.
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Crowley: Space exploration.
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Urban: Conventional wisdom says
starting a company is scary.
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Conventional wisdom says,
when you sell PayPal,
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and make over
$100 million dollars,
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you definitely need to make sure
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you're rich for the
rest of your life.
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Elon doesn't care what
conventional wisdom says.
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He said, what's the worst
that's going to happen,
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if I put all this money
down on something,
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that I think is
incredibly important?
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Then I lose it!
In the end,
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is it really
the end of the world?
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And so, Elon has the same
appetite for risk
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that the rest of us have,
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it's just that he
defines risk very differently.
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♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪
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♪ ♪
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After PayPal, he took a sharp
turn and never looked back.
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And that turn was towards
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how can we reduce
existential risk
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and give humanity the best shot
of a good and long future?
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Knutsson: I think if you
look back at his childhood
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and the fantastical stories in
these novels about
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how the world would come to
an end and he thought,
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'Hey, how do I fix that?'
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So it should come as no
surprise, really
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that he aimed towards
saving mankind.
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Elon Musk: I always thought that
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we would make much more
progress in space.
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When we went to the moon,
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we were supposed to have
a base on the moon,
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we're supposed to send
people to Mars.
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And that stuff just,
it just didn't happen.
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We went backwards.
It was really disappointing.
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♪ (music fading) ♪
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(rocket engine roaring)
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Miles O'Brien: Now, those of us
who grew up in the Apollo days
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and were sprinkled by moon dust,
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expected we would have
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colonies on Mars
by the mid 1980's.
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Well this never happened.
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NASA had not put Mars
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on its agenda.
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Reisman: In the early days
of Apollo,
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NASA was very forward-leaning
and innovative
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and trying all kinds of
new things.
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I think what's really changed
NASA were the tragedies.
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♪
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We had first, Apollo One.
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♪
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Then we had Challenger...
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♪
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...and then we had Columbia.
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♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪
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Berger: At NASA, one of the most
famous mottos of the agency is
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'failure is not an option'.
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So when people are in space,
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you can't really afford to fail.
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The problem is that mindset
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transcended everything
the agency did,
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and it reinforced this
risk-averse culture.
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O'Brien: NASA became
much more entrenched,
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much more bureaucratic,
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and took bold destinations,
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bold journeys, frankly,
off their agenda.
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Berger: Elon Musk worries a lot
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about the fate of humanity.
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He feels as long as humans
are on one planet,
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we're vulnerable to
all sorts of catastrophes.
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Crowley: There could be
an incoming asteroid
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that could eliminate life on
Earth as we know it.
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That we cannot solve
climate change
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and that our planet is
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no longer habitable for humans.
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Reisman: The reason
he wants us to be
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a space faring civilization
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is for survival of the species.
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There's nothing less
important than that.
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Higgins: In a lot of ways he's
the world's greatest prepper.
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Tim Urban: To understand
why he does what he does,
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you need to take that
huge step back
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and understand how he
sees humanity.
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The big, big picture.
And once you understand that,
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it's actually very obvious why
he's doing what he's doing.
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To Elon, it is so obvious
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that you have to try to
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keep the light of human
consciousness alive.
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And it would be so sad,
so utterly heartbreaking
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if it went out like a candle.
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Berger: And so he started
thinking about
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what's the best option
in our solar system.
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And Mars as imperfect as it is,
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is the best place for us
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to start learning to
survive on other worlds.
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♪
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The end of 2001, he began
looking in to see
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what NASA was doing about
sending humans to Mars.
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Urban: Elon actually went to
the NASA website and was saying,
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'what's the Mars
effort look like?'
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And he realized, there was
no Mars effort at all.
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O'Brien: Elon realized
first of all,
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that getting anything into space
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was ridiculously expensive.
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Crowley: Keep in mind
at that time,
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the only really
big players in space
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were government funded.
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Berger: The way it had
worked for decades was
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that NASA and the
Department of Defense
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would decide that they needed
a particular rocket
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or a particular satellite
or a particular spacecraft.
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And then they would
go to industry
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and they would
put out a request,
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how much could you do it for,
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and how soon could you do it?
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O'Brien: The government
owns everything.
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They're hiring a contractor
to build it
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precisely to their specs.
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And the contractor is charging
an hourly rate
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to build, this case, the rocket.
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Well, you don't have to be a
rocket scientist to realize
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that the slower it goes,
the more you make.
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How perverse is that?
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So there was no incentive
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up to that point,
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to make it any cheaper.
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Elon saw the niche right away,
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as it's not so much
a lack of vision.
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It's a lack of
affordable rockets.
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Crowley: During this
process of exploring that,
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Elon thinks,
"what if I bought a rocket?"
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And he realizes the only way
to do that
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is to buy some ICBMs
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or Inter-Continental
Ballistic Missiles.
508
00:20:31,221 --> 00:20:32,888
O'Brien: So he thought, well,
the cheap way to do it,
509
00:20:32,921 --> 00:20:34,755
we'll go to the Russians,
who need some money
510
00:20:34,788 --> 00:20:36,521
and we'll buy an ICBM.
511
00:20:36,555 --> 00:20:37,921
But he discovered
that the Russians
512
00:20:37,955 --> 00:20:39,588
drive very hard bargains
513
00:20:39,621 --> 00:20:42,188
and did not take him
seriously at all.
514
00:20:42,221 --> 00:20:47,755
♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪
515
00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:50,255
Matt Pressman: On the
plane ride back to the U.S.,
516
00:20:50,288 --> 00:20:51,855
they saw him reading
517
00:20:51,888 --> 00:20:54,488
a Russian rocket manual
518
00:20:54,521 --> 00:20:56,555
translated into English.
519
00:20:56,588 --> 00:20:59,088
And he just decided,
I'm gonna do this myself.
520
00:20:59,121 --> 00:21:00,988
Urban: I'm just gonna
start a company
521
00:21:01,021 --> 00:21:03,155
that colonizes Mars,
we don't need NASA.
522
00:21:03,188 --> 00:21:05,255
We don't need
the U.S. or Russia.
523
00:21:05,288 --> 00:21:06,621
I'm gonna do it.
524
00:21:07,688 --> 00:21:08,788
O'Brien: Then he
starts thinking,
525
00:21:08,821 --> 00:21:10,788
"well, why don't I just
build my own rocket?"
526
00:21:10,821 --> 00:21:12,555
Elon Musk: We're looking
for great people
527
00:21:12,588 --> 00:21:14,421
of all kinds to join the
company,
528
00:21:14,455 --> 00:21:16,155
so if you're interested,
please send us your resume.
529
00:21:16,188 --> 00:21:18,121
O'Brien: This is a classic tale
530
00:21:18,155 --> 00:21:21,588
of a disruptive
force in a market.
531
00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:24,321
It almost seemed
insurmountable to most of us,
532
00:21:24,355 --> 00:21:25,688
and that's why we
all laughed at him.
533
00:21:25,721 --> 00:21:29,988
♪ ♪
534
00:21:30,021 --> 00:21:37,421
♪ (dramatic music) ♪
535
00:21:37,455 --> 00:21:40,421
Pressman: At the same time
as he's starting SpaceX,
536
00:21:40,455 --> 00:21:42,155
he was very interested
in this idea
537
00:21:42,188 --> 00:21:44,688
of launching an
electric car company.
538
00:21:46,155 --> 00:21:48,888
Higgins: Tesla in its
early stages was an idea.
539
00:21:48,921 --> 00:21:52,088
It was a business plan that
540
00:21:52,121 --> 00:21:53,788
thought there might be a market
541
00:21:53,821 --> 00:21:55,721
for an electric sports car
542
00:21:55,755 --> 00:21:58,455
and had some ideas
on how to do it,
543
00:21:58,488 --> 00:21:59,921
but it needed funding.
544
00:21:59,955 --> 00:22:02,688
Pressman: The original founders
had this idea
545
00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:04,988
to create an electric car using
546
00:22:05,021 --> 00:22:06,488
computer batteries.
547
00:22:06,521 --> 00:22:09,655
Elon became very
interested in this concept.
548
00:22:09,688 --> 00:22:12,355
And soon after that, he became
an initial investor
549
00:22:12,388 --> 00:22:14,655
and a founder in the business.
550
00:22:14,688 --> 00:22:16,988
Elon Musk: I mean, fundamentally
we have a delayed gratification
551
00:22:17,021 --> 00:22:20,021
issue, collectively
as a species, like,
552
00:22:20,055 --> 00:22:22,288
are we willing to
553
00:22:22,321 --> 00:22:25,888
sacrifice the near term for
the long term?
554
00:22:25,921 --> 00:22:29,121
♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪
555
00:22:29,155 --> 00:22:32,555
Urban: The goal was
to start Tesla,
556
00:22:32,588 --> 00:22:35,155
and have someone
else be the CEO.
557
00:22:35,188 --> 00:22:38,555
And so he never intended to
be the CEO of two companies.
558
00:22:38,588 --> 00:22:40,388
Uh, but that's what
ended up happening.
559
00:22:40,421 --> 00:22:43,188
♪ ♪
560
00:22:43,221 --> 00:22:47,021
Feresten: Before Tesla, electric
cars were pretty much dead.
561
00:22:47,055 --> 00:22:50,055
It was pretty much an idea
that had failed before
562
00:22:50,088 --> 00:22:52,021
and was going nowhere, fast.
563
00:22:52,821 --> 00:22:55,721
Crowley: They were dorky,
they didn't go very far.
564
00:22:55,755 --> 00:22:57,555
I mean, you would be
kind of embarrassed.
565
00:22:57,588 --> 00:22:58,988
You wouldn't show up
to a job in that,
566
00:22:59,021 --> 00:23:01,121
and you certainly wouldn't
show up to a date
567
00:23:01,155 --> 00:23:02,688
driving an electric vehicle.
568
00:23:02,721 --> 00:23:05,055
♪ ♪
569
00:23:05,088 --> 00:23:06,755
Urban: The goal of Tesla
was never to become
570
00:23:06,788 --> 00:23:08,121
a giant car company.
571
00:23:08,155 --> 00:23:09,621
It's to become a company that is
572
00:23:09,655 --> 00:23:13,621
a catalyst for a paradigm shift.
573
00:23:13,655 --> 00:23:15,488
Pressman: It really
started with him
574
00:23:15,521 --> 00:23:18,521
trying to figure out a way
in which he could capture
575
00:23:18,555 --> 00:23:21,355
the world's attention
with electric cars.
576
00:23:21,388 --> 00:23:22,855
Elon Musk: Their idea of an
electric car is something
577
00:23:22,888 --> 00:23:24,855
that doesn't look good,
isn't fast,
578
00:23:24,888 --> 00:23:27,588
it doesn't have high
performance, has low range.
579
00:23:27,621 --> 00:23:30,088
We wanted to break the
mold of all of that.
580
00:23:30,121 --> 00:23:32,121
And so do something
that was beautiful,
581
00:23:32,155 --> 00:23:34,821
had high acceleration,
incredible handling,
582
00:23:34,855 --> 00:23:38,255
had tons of capability,
lots of room,
583
00:23:38,288 --> 00:23:40,555
and really was better
than any gasoline car.
584
00:23:40,588 --> 00:23:43,088
Crowley: Elon sees
this potential,
585
00:23:43,121 --> 00:23:45,555
to come in at the
extreme high end,
586
00:23:45,588 --> 00:23:47,521
with a luxury electric vehicle.
587
00:23:47,555 --> 00:23:50,055
And that if you made
driving them cool,
588
00:23:50,088 --> 00:23:53,521
if they were reliable, if they
actually went a distance,
589
00:23:53,555 --> 00:23:56,688
he could see a way forward
for this company.
590
00:23:56,721 --> 00:24:00,355
And that a company like that
could help the world
591
00:24:00,388 --> 00:24:03,188
get off of its
dependence on oil.
592
00:24:04,355 --> 00:24:06,688
Urban: He's trying to
create a car so good,
593
00:24:06,721 --> 00:24:09,188
that everyone wants it,
594
00:24:09,221 --> 00:24:11,155
every car company has
to start making it,
595
00:24:11,188 --> 00:24:13,921
and eventually it's the
car that everyone drives.
596
00:24:13,955 --> 00:24:15,688
Then it's like the
iPhone of cars.
597
00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:19,988
♪ (dramatic music) ♪
598
00:24:20,021 --> 00:24:23,321
♪ (music fading) ♪
599
00:24:23,355 --> 00:24:25,621
Elon Musk: Doing a startup is,
at the beginning,
600
00:24:25,655 --> 00:24:28,088
it's like eating glass and
staring into the abyss.
601
00:24:28,121 --> 00:24:29,655
It's not fun."
602
00:24:29,688 --> 00:24:31,788
Higgins: Elon Musk's
attention was at SpaceX,
603
00:24:31,821 --> 00:24:34,988
but as the Tesla
went down the road,
604
00:24:35,021 --> 00:24:37,155
it was becoming
clearer and clearer
605
00:24:37,188 --> 00:24:39,655
that it was going to be a lot
harder to make the Roadster
606
00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:41,121
than everybody
originally thought.
607
00:24:41,155 --> 00:24:43,188
Costs were getting
out of control,
608
00:24:43,221 --> 00:24:44,921
deadlines were being missed,
609
00:24:44,955 --> 00:24:47,788
and Elon Musk starts to
610
00:24:47,821 --> 00:24:49,888
wonder about what's happening.
611
00:24:52,388 --> 00:24:53,655
Crowley: At the same time
612
00:24:53,688 --> 00:24:56,021
Tesla is developing
the Roadster,
613
00:24:56,055 --> 00:24:59,255
SpaceX, they were now
developing a rocket.
614
00:24:59,288 --> 00:25:01,988
Reisman: Up until this point,
NASA had only used
615
00:25:02,021 --> 00:25:04,721
expendable rockets and it was
just not affordable.
616
00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:07,521
Fernholz: He really believes
reusable rockets
617
00:25:07,555 --> 00:25:09,355
are the only path forward
618
00:25:09,388 --> 00:25:11,521
for cost effective space access.
619
00:25:12,788 --> 00:25:13,921
Elon was saying, you know,
620
00:25:13,955 --> 00:25:15,888
I'm gonna make a reusable rocket
to go to Mars.
621
00:25:15,921 --> 00:25:18,888
And everyone was saying,
'this is impossible.'
622
00:25:20,288 --> 00:25:22,021
So SpaceX began
623
00:25:22,055 --> 00:25:24,388
creating a small rocket called
the Falcon One.
624
00:25:24,421 --> 00:25:25,655
♪
625
00:25:25,688 --> 00:25:26,721
Elon Musk: It's not
a question of will,
626
00:25:26,755 --> 00:25:28,855
it's a question of showing
that there's a way.
627
00:25:28,888 --> 00:25:31,721
Berger: No one's paying SpaceX
to build that rocket.
628
00:25:31,755 --> 00:25:34,021
Crowley: This wasn't money
from other investors.
629
00:25:34,055 --> 00:25:36,688
This was his personal
fortune in the game.
630
00:25:36,721 --> 00:25:38,888
Interviewer: So you had a budget
of about a hundred million?
631
00:25:38,921 --> 00:25:40,155
Something like that?
632
00:25:40,188 --> 00:25:42,755
Elon: Well I was hoping it would
be less than that, but, uh,
633
00:25:42,788 --> 00:25:45,621
I mean, I couldn't, I couldn't
spend much more than that.
634
00:25:53,121 --> 00:25:55,755
Astronaut: Okay, Houston,
I'm gonna change lenses on you.
635
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:56,921
O'Brien:
"Failure is not an option"
636
00:25:56,955 --> 00:25:59,288
is the famous NASA phrase.
637
00:25:59,321 --> 00:26:03,321
And...it is absolutely
the opposite
638
00:26:03,355 --> 00:26:05,621
of the way Elon Musk thinks.
639
00:26:05,655 --> 00:26:07,621
Berger: Failure is an option
at SpaceX.
640
00:26:07,655 --> 00:26:09,555
And while he didn't
like to fail,
641
00:26:09,588 --> 00:26:11,221
he realized that failing
642
00:26:11,255 --> 00:26:14,255
was part of going fast.
643
00:26:14,288 --> 00:26:16,921
Fernholz: It is a willingness
to accept risks
644
00:26:16,955 --> 00:26:18,488
and to iterate quickly,
645
00:26:18,521 --> 00:26:21,321
to test hardware,
to accept failure,
646
00:26:21,355 --> 00:26:23,588
that is not part
of NASA's culture.
647
00:26:23,621 --> 00:26:25,321
Elon Musk: And there should be
an expectation that,
648
00:26:25,355 --> 00:26:27,355
that failure is highly likely.
649
00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:30,588
Urban: When SpaceX started,
650
00:26:30,621 --> 00:26:33,088
you know, it was funded by Elon
651
00:26:33,121 --> 00:26:35,588
and, you know, he had money
from PayPal, but not that much,
652
00:26:35,621 --> 00:26:37,221
and rocket launches are
really expensive.
653
00:26:37,255 --> 00:26:39,221
So they had to show
654
00:26:39,255 --> 00:26:41,055
that they really were
a real company
655
00:26:41,088 --> 00:26:42,721
that could truly launch
something
656
00:26:42,755 --> 00:26:44,455
into space successfully.
657
00:26:44,488 --> 00:26:46,655
So they could get a contract
from NASA,
658
00:26:46,688 --> 00:26:49,321
so that they could actually have
funding to keep going.
659
00:26:49,355 --> 00:26:51,488
Fernholz: NASA's deputy
administrator at that time,
660
00:26:51,521 --> 00:26:53,788
Lori Garver, she saw how
661
00:26:53,821 --> 00:26:56,821
NASA was just not living up
to what it could be.
662
00:26:56,855 --> 00:27:00,655
♪ (soft dramatic music) ♪
663
00:27:00,688 --> 00:27:03,155
Lori Garver: I believed
in the concept,
664
00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:06,155
that the private sector,
properly incentivized,
665
00:27:06,188 --> 00:27:09,355
could do something
better and cheaper,
666
00:27:09,388 --> 00:27:12,355
more efficiently for sure,
than the government,
667
00:27:12,388 --> 00:27:14,921
Because we had been doing it
for 60 years.
668
00:27:16,788 --> 00:27:20,655
O'Brien: Lori Garver said,
"the fastest way for Americans
669
00:27:20,688 --> 00:27:23,021
to get back into space
on a rocket,
670
00:27:23,055 --> 00:27:25,388
is to rethink
how we do business."
671
00:27:25,421 --> 00:27:28,155
So she's a crucial
player in all of this.
672
00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:31,188
Certainly, we would not see
Elon where he is now,
673
00:27:31,221 --> 00:27:33,588
if Lori Garver hadn't
been in that job.
674
00:27:34,388 --> 00:27:37,021
Garver: Elon didn't
play the game.
675
00:27:37,055 --> 00:27:39,355
Like, these are big
aerospace companies.
676
00:27:39,388 --> 00:27:41,355
These are defense contractors,
677
00:27:41,388 --> 00:27:44,521
and it's a club, and it's
a very exclusive club,
678
00:27:44,555 --> 00:27:48,055
a hundreds of billions of
dollars a year business.
679
00:27:48,088 --> 00:27:51,488
And they weren't going to
go quietly into the night.
680
00:27:53,488 --> 00:27:55,521
Reisman: There was a big
difference in corporate culture
681
00:27:55,555 --> 00:27:58,588
between the entire aerospace
industry and SpaceX,
682
00:27:58,621 --> 00:27:59,888
no question about it.
683
00:27:59,921 --> 00:28:02,888
The aerospace industry had
a certain way of doing things.
684
00:28:02,921 --> 00:28:05,821
And then you had this upstart,
you know, this SpaceX,
685
00:28:05,855 --> 00:28:08,021
that really had
Silicon Valley in the DNA,
686
00:28:08,055 --> 00:28:11,055
that was out there with the
status quo as the enemy.
687
00:28:11,088 --> 00:28:15,088
Garver: There were a lot of
things about Elon and SpaceX
688
00:28:15,121 --> 00:28:18,455
that the aerospace
community didn't like.
689
00:28:18,488 --> 00:28:21,555
That combination of being
y'know, not from here,
690
00:28:21,588 --> 00:28:24,921
he's South African,
he's Canadian, he's young.
691
00:28:24,955 --> 00:28:28,055
And the aerospace community
in my view,
692
00:28:28,088 --> 00:28:30,121
used those things
693
00:28:30,155 --> 00:28:33,255
to try and put more negativity
694
00:28:33,288 --> 00:28:35,388
on him and SpaceX.
695
00:28:35,421 --> 00:28:37,088
They were scared.
696
00:28:37,121 --> 00:28:38,721
Reisman: I remember once we had
this meeting with some
697
00:28:38,755 --> 00:28:41,255
NASA officials, some very
high level NASA officials,
698
00:28:41,288 --> 00:28:42,888
and they were
talking about
699
00:28:42,921 --> 00:28:44,521
how we don't have
enough meetings
700
00:28:44,555 --> 00:28:46,121
at SpaceX, and Elon said,
701
00:28:46,155 --> 00:28:47,455
"why do you think we need to
have more meetings?"
702
00:28:47,488 --> 00:28:49,121
They said, well, at NASA,
703
00:28:49,155 --> 00:28:50,921
in meetings, that's how
we make decisions.
704
00:28:50,955 --> 00:28:52,588
That's how we get stuff done.
705
00:28:52,621 --> 00:28:54,088
And I sat there and I cringed,
706
00:28:54,121 --> 00:28:56,355
you know, having been a former
NASA guy, I just knew
707
00:28:56,388 --> 00:28:58,188
what was going through Elon's
mind hearing this,
708
00:28:58,221 --> 00:29:00,855
losing respect
by the nanosecond.
709
00:29:00,888 --> 00:29:02,355
(laughter)
710
00:29:02,388 --> 00:29:03,588
♪
711
00:29:03,621 --> 00:29:06,588
Garver: I was in meetings
in the Pentagon for years,
712
00:29:06,621 --> 00:29:10,688
where they would make fun
of Elon and me,
713
00:29:10,721 --> 00:29:13,788
for even pushing for NASA
714
00:29:13,821 --> 00:29:16,788
to invest in these new ways
715
00:29:16,821 --> 00:29:18,621
of doing space transportation.
716
00:29:18,655 --> 00:29:21,255
And they believed that
they would never,
717
00:29:21,288 --> 00:29:24,355
never trust their very precious
718
00:29:24,388 --> 00:29:28,488
military satellites to...
'that kid.'
719
00:29:28,521 --> 00:29:31,321
And they like to believe what
they do was so hard
720
00:29:31,355 --> 00:29:33,788
and so special,
and maybe even secret,
721
00:29:33,821 --> 00:29:35,921
that no one else could do it.
722
00:29:35,955 --> 00:29:39,488
♪
723
00:29:40,488 --> 00:29:42,521
Urban: Elon predicted
they had, you know,
724
00:29:42,555 --> 00:29:44,655
three, maybe four tries,
725
00:29:44,688 --> 00:29:46,021
before he ran out of money.
726
00:29:46,055 --> 00:29:47,621
♪
727
00:29:47,655 --> 00:29:48,855
Berger: The first
launch attempt
728
00:29:48,888 --> 00:29:51,188
was in March
of 2006.
729
00:29:51,221 --> 00:29:52,755
(rocket rumbling)
730
00:29:52,788 --> 00:29:55,021
At that point, the company
was not quite four years old.
731
00:29:55,055 --> 00:29:56,621
They'd built their first rocket,
732
00:29:56,655 --> 00:29:59,188
(rocket blast roaring)
733
00:29:59,221 --> 00:30:01,488
and the engine caught on fire
734
00:30:01,521 --> 00:30:02,688
seconds before the launch,
735
00:30:02,721 --> 00:30:04,888
because there was a fuel leak.
736
00:30:06,721 --> 00:30:08,821
The rocket went up
for about 30 seconds
737
00:30:08,855 --> 00:30:10,588
and then the engine petered out
738
00:30:10,621 --> 00:30:12,621
and it came crashing back
to Earth.
739
00:30:14,455 --> 00:30:16,321
O'Brien: We would look at that
and say, oh, that was a failure.
740
00:30:16,355 --> 00:30:20,121
And he was like, "no, that
was actually 80% success!"
741
00:30:20,155 --> 00:30:22,821
And if you're not at that
kind of ratty edge
742
00:30:22,855 --> 00:30:24,355
of what's possible,
743
00:30:24,388 --> 00:30:27,288
how are you gonna know,
until you have a failure?
744
00:30:27,321 --> 00:30:28,688
And this is the insight which
745
00:30:28,721 --> 00:30:31,288
Elon Musk, of course, embraced.
746
00:30:31,321 --> 00:30:33,655
Reisman: At SpaceX, Elon
would tell us things like,
747
00:30:33,688 --> 00:30:36,021
"take 15 minutes every day
and sit down at your desk
748
00:30:36,055 --> 00:30:37,955
and think about something
you've been doing
749
00:30:37,988 --> 00:30:41,155
the same way, for like
a year or longer.
750
00:30:41,188 --> 00:30:43,988
You've probably missed an
opportunity to do it better."
751
00:30:46,155 --> 00:30:47,321
(rocket roaring)
752
00:30:47,355 --> 00:30:50,255
Berger: After the first launch,
they matured a lot.
753
00:30:50,288 --> 00:30:52,488
and they made improvements
to the rocket.
754
00:30:52,521 --> 00:30:54,788
And so, they were more confident
755
00:30:54,821 --> 00:30:57,355
by the time they got to the
second launch, a year later.
756
00:30:57,388 --> 00:31:00,188
Controller: Three, two, one--
757
00:31:00,221 --> 00:31:02,188
(rocket roaring)
758
00:31:02,221 --> 00:31:04,255
We have lift off!
- We have lift off.
759
00:31:04,288 --> 00:31:06,688
Berger: The first stage
performed normally,
760
00:31:06,721 --> 00:31:08,255
it burned for more than
two minutes,
761
00:31:08,288 --> 00:31:10,221
got up into space.
762
00:31:10,255 --> 00:31:12,221
And the second stage
pulled away.
763
00:31:13,221 --> 00:31:15,521
- Separation!
- Stages are separated!
764
00:31:15,555 --> 00:31:16,521
Berger: Things were going great,
765
00:31:16,555 --> 00:31:18,588
but then the second stage
started oscillating
766
00:31:18,621 --> 00:31:19,921
and then spinning,
767
00:31:19,955 --> 00:31:23,221
due to a fuel sloshing issue
in that upper stage.
768
00:31:23,255 --> 00:31:25,288
And that rocket almost
made it to orbit.
769
00:31:26,955 --> 00:31:29,155
Fernholz: Everyone has seen
the videos of Elon
770
00:31:29,188 --> 00:31:31,155
trying to make the reusable
rocket work,
771
00:31:31,188 --> 00:31:34,721
blowing up again and again,
as it crashes into the ocean.
772
00:31:34,755 --> 00:31:37,255
And that would
never fly at NASA,
773
00:31:37,288 --> 00:31:39,355
y'know, NASA would have a
congressional hearing
774
00:31:39,388 --> 00:31:40,355
and they would be saying,
775
00:31:40,388 --> 00:31:41,655
why are you blowing up
these rockets?
776
00:31:41,688 --> 00:31:43,588
We're canceling the program,
stop it!
777
00:31:43,621 --> 00:31:45,855
And that's a problem
for NASA's culture.
778
00:31:45,888 --> 00:31:47,321
It makes it hard for
them to innovate.
779
00:31:47,355 --> 00:31:50,721
Whereas for Elon, you know,
he blows up a rocket,
780
00:31:50,755 --> 00:31:51,988
and he makes a joke on Twitter
781
00:31:52,021 --> 00:31:54,288
about rapid unexpected
disassembly.
782
00:31:58,088 --> 00:31:59,988
And that is a huge culture clash
783
00:32:00,021 --> 00:32:03,021
between the space establishment
and Elon Musk.
784
00:32:04,021 --> 00:32:05,421
Berger: And so,
that sets the stage
785
00:32:05,455 --> 00:32:07,555
for the third launch of
the Falcon One rocket
786
00:32:07,588 --> 00:32:10,188
in early August of 2008.
787
00:32:10,221 --> 00:32:11,955
♪ (upbeat dramatic music) ♪
788
00:32:11,988 --> 00:32:16,721
(rocket engine roaring)
♪ ♪
789
00:32:16,755 --> 00:32:18,721
They were counting on success.
790
00:32:18,755 --> 00:32:19,888
And what happened was
791
00:32:19,921 --> 00:32:22,121
right when the second stage was
supposed to take off
792
00:32:22,155 --> 00:32:25,555
and pull away, the first stage
engine shut off,
793
00:32:25,588 --> 00:32:28,621
but then it restarted, and it
bumped into the second stage.
794
00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,288
And so they lost that vehicle.
795
00:32:31,988 --> 00:32:33,821
At that point they were
almost out of money,
796
00:32:33,855 --> 00:32:35,655
and it was devastating.
797
00:32:35,688 --> 00:32:38,221
Crowley: That was
a very difficult year.
798
00:32:38,255 --> 00:32:40,788
Fernholz: Those first three
rockets were paid for by
799
00:32:40,821 --> 00:32:42,988
about a hundred million dollars
out of his own pocket.
800
00:32:43,021 --> 00:32:44,955
And there was a point
where he thought
801
00:32:44,988 --> 00:32:47,221
that was all gonna go
down the drain.
802
00:32:47,255 --> 00:32:50,421
Urban: That was probably
the worst year of his life.
803
00:32:50,455 --> 00:32:52,455
Fernholz: 2008 was a year where
804
00:32:52,488 --> 00:32:53,955
SpaceX was in trouble,
805
00:32:53,988 --> 00:32:55,321
Tesla was in trouble.
806
00:32:58,855 --> 00:33:01,555
Higgins: There's a debate about
what Tesla should become.
807
00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:03,721
Some think the company
808
00:33:03,755 --> 00:33:05,621
perhaps is more valuable
809
00:33:05,655 --> 00:33:07,655
being an automotive supplier,
810
00:33:07,688 --> 00:33:10,021
selling the battery technology
to other companies.
811
00:33:10,055 --> 00:33:12,688
Elon wants to ensure
812
00:33:12,721 --> 00:33:15,055
that it is an
electric car company
813
00:33:15,088 --> 00:33:17,355
to usher in that new world.
814
00:33:17,388 --> 00:33:20,988
Urban: SpaceX and Tesla
are both starting to fail.
815
00:33:21,021 --> 00:33:23,288
Higgins: I remember talking
to some people who were,
816
00:33:23,321 --> 00:33:25,455
would watch him on the phone
817
00:33:25,488 --> 00:33:27,555
with his money manager saying,
818
00:33:27,588 --> 00:33:29,821
"we gotta raise money,
I gotta make payroll."
819
00:33:29,855 --> 00:33:32,021
Urban: He actually was getting
divorced the same year.
820
00:33:33,588 --> 00:33:35,521
Knutsson: Elon had married
his college girlfriend.
821
00:33:36,555 --> 00:33:38,521
The marriage lasted eight years.
822
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,521
They had six children total,
823
00:33:45,555 --> 00:33:49,221
including triplets
and twins, all boys.
824
00:33:49,255 --> 00:33:51,421
One of those boys
passed away of SIDS.
825
00:33:52,888 --> 00:33:54,488
Berger: It was an
enormously stressful time
826
00:33:54,521 --> 00:33:56,221
in terms of emotion,
827
00:33:56,255 --> 00:33:58,721
in terms of finances,
828
00:33:58,755 --> 00:34:01,321
and both of his companies
were basically failing.
829
00:34:04,755 --> 00:34:08,188
Well, for SpaceX, they
had one final chance.
830
00:34:08,221 --> 00:34:11,521
They had the parts
for a fourth rocket,
831
00:34:11,555 --> 00:34:15,021
and the team to assemble it
and launch it,
832
00:34:15,055 --> 00:34:16,921
but they were out of money.
833
00:34:16,955 --> 00:34:19,755
Like they were, they were weeks
away from missing payroll,
834
00:34:19,788 --> 00:34:22,188
and so Elon got his team
together the day after that
835
00:34:22,221 --> 00:34:24,388
third failure of the
Falcon One and said,
836
00:34:24,421 --> 00:34:25,855
"You have six weeks.
837
00:34:25,888 --> 00:34:27,588
We've gotta build this rocket,
838
00:34:27,621 --> 00:34:30,721
get it to Kwajalein and launch
it to orbit, or we're done.
839
00:34:31,521 --> 00:34:34,288
Elon Musk: Late 2008, there was
some bad news board meetings.
840
00:34:34,321 --> 00:34:38,088
Look, if we did just one
and it didn't work,
841
00:34:38,121 --> 00:34:41,121
then that could have like
the opposite effect.
842
00:34:41,155 --> 00:34:43,721
Like, look how dumb it is to,
to try to send this to Mars.
843
00:34:43,755 --> 00:34:45,188
Journalist: Right, look at all
this money down the drain.
844
00:34:45,221 --> 00:34:46,755
Elon Musk: Yeah! What an idiot!
(chuckles)
845
00:34:46,788 --> 00:34:49,755
That was one of the toughest
things we wrestled with.
846
00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:53,888
♪ ♪
847
00:34:53,921 --> 00:34:55,788
Crowley: In
September of that year
848
00:34:55,821 --> 00:34:58,021
comes that last opportunity,
849
00:34:58,055 --> 00:35:00,221
the fourth rocket launch.
850
00:35:00,255 --> 00:35:01,788
And this is it.
851
00:35:01,821 --> 00:35:03,321
This is do or die.
852
00:35:04,888 --> 00:35:06,155
Urban: He thought, you know,
if we don't get it
853
00:35:06,188 --> 00:35:07,855
on this fourth try, I don't
think we're going to be able
854
00:35:07,888 --> 00:35:09,421
to keep going, because we're
going to run out of money.
855
00:35:09,455 --> 00:35:13,121
And, you know, this huge moment
for SpaceX and...
856
00:35:13,155 --> 00:35:16,088
and really for,
for space travel.
857
00:35:16,121 --> 00:35:19,355
Controller:
Three, two, one, zero.
858
00:35:19,388 --> 00:35:21,255
- We're at Stage One!
- We have lift off indication!
859
00:35:21,288 --> 00:35:22,588
Berger: The launch is perfect.
860
00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:24,021
Controller: We have lift off!
861
00:35:25,155 --> 00:35:27,088
SpaceX Falcon One
launch vehicle,
862
00:35:27,121 --> 00:35:28,655
Falcon has cleared the tower.
863
00:35:28,688 --> 00:35:32,288
Crowley: The rocket takes off
and it's a success.
864
00:35:33,821 --> 00:35:35,655
Berger: It gets into orbit, and
865
00:35:35,688 --> 00:35:39,021
it's an enormous moment
of success for SpaceX.
866
00:35:39,055 --> 00:35:40,321
Controller: Firing separation
confirmed.
867
00:35:40,355 --> 00:35:43,321
♪ (dramatic music) ♪
868
00:35:43,355 --> 00:35:49,488
♪ ♪
869
00:35:49,521 --> 00:35:51,188
Berger: It was a relief,
870
00:35:51,221 --> 00:35:54,855
but it just meant that SpaceX
was not going to die that day.
871
00:35:55,821 --> 00:35:58,521
Garver: NASA was
clearly impressed,
872
00:35:58,555 --> 00:36:01,121
and in the end of 2008,
873
00:36:01,155 --> 00:36:05,088
awarded them
$1.6 billion dollars,
874
00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:07,355
to take cargo
to the space station.
875
00:36:07,388 --> 00:36:10,755
♪ (uplifting music) ♪
876
00:36:10,788 --> 00:36:13,155
Crowley: Now they have
a huge customer,
877
00:36:13,188 --> 00:36:15,021
and this is
incredibly important.
878
00:36:15,055 --> 00:36:18,255
And then he also learns
on Christmas Eve,
879
00:36:18,288 --> 00:36:20,388
that Tesla has now received
880
00:36:20,421 --> 00:36:21,988
a new round of funding
881
00:36:22,021 --> 00:36:24,355
and that company
will also be saved.
882
00:36:26,088 --> 00:36:27,621
Knutsson: It was a
Christmas miracle.
883
00:36:27,655 --> 00:36:29,188
After being close
to their death,
884
00:36:29,221 --> 00:36:31,255
both companies were
back in the game.
885
00:36:31,288 --> 00:36:32,921
But they were both
costly ventures.
886
00:36:32,955 --> 00:36:35,288
Elon might have to choose
which one to save.
887
00:36:35,321 --> 00:36:38,188
I like to call it a
billionaire's 'Sophie's choice.'
888
00:36:43,221 --> 00:36:45,255
♪ (dramatic music) ♪
889
00:36:45,288 --> 00:36:48,188
Crowley: You see it all the
time, oh, now he's done it.
890
00:36:48,221 --> 00:36:49,855
This is too far.
891
00:36:49,888 --> 00:36:51,455
This is too crazy.
892
00:36:51,488 --> 00:36:53,221
This is too different.
893
00:36:53,255 --> 00:36:54,688
And then he pulls it off.
894
00:36:54,721 --> 00:36:56,155
He's a game changer,
895
00:36:56,188 --> 00:36:58,221
willing to go out on a limb,
896
00:36:58,255 --> 00:37:00,588
and show all of his critics,
897
00:37:00,621 --> 00:37:03,355
that he is the one laughing
at the end of the day.
898
00:37:06,621 --> 00:37:08,821
Feresten: Elon Musk
kind of took the model
899
00:37:08,855 --> 00:37:10,255
for how to run a business
900
00:37:10,288 --> 00:37:12,788
and threw it out the window,
into a wood chipper and said,
901
00:37:12,821 --> 00:37:14,421
"let's make it more efficient."
902
00:37:14,455 --> 00:37:15,988
Tesla is, in my opinion,
903
00:37:16,021 --> 00:37:18,288
single-handedly
responsible for this
904
00:37:18,321 --> 00:37:20,055
paradigm shift in,
905
00:37:20,088 --> 00:37:22,288
in how we power cars.
906
00:37:22,321 --> 00:37:26,121
When you walk into SpaceX,
it's this giant hangar,
907
00:37:26,155 --> 00:37:28,388
this beehive of activity,
908
00:37:28,421 --> 00:37:30,588
with workers coming in
909
00:37:30,621 --> 00:37:33,821
on 12 hour shifts,
other workers leaving and
910
00:37:33,855 --> 00:37:36,555
sometimes sleeping in
RV's in the parking lot.
911
00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:39,588
But this kind of
universal drive,
912
00:37:39,621 --> 00:37:42,455
that we have to
get this stuff done,
913
00:37:42,488 --> 00:37:44,255
get it done quickly,
914
00:37:44,288 --> 00:37:46,321
and then get our asses to Mars.
915
00:37:47,921 --> 00:37:49,621
Crowley: There has been
controversy
916
00:37:49,655 --> 00:37:52,121
about the amount of
work and devotion
917
00:37:52,155 --> 00:37:55,155
that he expects from his team.
918
00:37:56,488 --> 00:37:58,988
Berger: He's extremely
demanding.
919
00:37:59,021 --> 00:38:01,388
Reisman: He has a tremendously
strong work ethic
920
00:38:01,421 --> 00:38:04,721
and he expects you to live
up to those expectations.
921
00:38:04,755 --> 00:38:06,055
Berger: He has a temper.
922
00:38:06,088 --> 00:38:08,921
And if a project is
not done on time,
923
00:38:08,955 --> 00:38:11,355
he wants to know why,
and who screwed up.
924
00:38:11,388 --> 00:38:12,721
Reisman: And if you fall short,
925
00:38:12,755 --> 00:38:14,688
he will tell you, okay?
926
00:38:16,388 --> 00:38:18,488
To him, your esteem
927
00:38:18,521 --> 00:38:20,355
is completely measured by
928
00:38:20,388 --> 00:38:22,555
your technical aptitude.
929
00:38:22,588 --> 00:38:24,388
And if you demonstrate
a weakness,
930
00:38:24,421 --> 00:38:25,755
you'll be shown the door.
931
00:38:27,655 --> 00:38:31,155
Fernholz: I think it's a very
interesting blind spot for Elon,
932
00:38:31,188 --> 00:38:34,855
the suffering of his
employees sometimes.
933
00:38:34,888 --> 00:38:38,155
In part, because he will suffer
alongside of them
934
00:38:38,188 --> 00:38:40,388
and work those 80
or 90 hour weeks.
935
00:38:40,421 --> 00:38:43,721
And he sort of feels like,
'if I can do it, you can too.'
936
00:38:43,755 --> 00:38:46,155
This is just the cost of
achieving greatness.
937
00:38:46,188 --> 00:38:49,121
Higgins: And on one hand,
they talk about how
938
00:38:49,155 --> 00:38:50,855
just an incredible
experience it is.
939
00:38:50,888 --> 00:38:52,521
He's charming, he can be funny.
940
00:38:52,555 --> 00:38:54,988
He's just super
inspiring in a way
941
00:38:55,021 --> 00:38:56,955
that they just
haven't had before.
942
00:38:56,988 --> 00:38:58,155
On the other hand,
943
00:38:58,188 --> 00:39:01,455
he's a nano-manager
who has a temper
944
00:39:01,488 --> 00:39:05,221
that can be triggered by
seemingly random things.
945
00:39:06,388 --> 00:39:07,955
Crowley: From Elon's
perspective,
946
00:39:07,988 --> 00:39:09,588
it's a race against the clock.
947
00:39:10,888 --> 00:39:12,355
Berger: He realizes that
948
00:39:12,388 --> 00:39:14,721
to actually get humans to Mars,
949
00:39:14,755 --> 00:39:16,921
it's going to take
most of his adult life.
950
00:39:16,955 --> 00:39:18,088
And he has a finite
amount of time.
951
00:39:18,121 --> 00:39:19,721
He doesn't know how
long he's gonna live,
952
00:39:19,755 --> 00:39:21,955
he doesn't know how long
funding will be available.
953
00:39:21,988 --> 00:39:23,421
Crowley: Those are the stakes.
954
00:39:23,455 --> 00:39:25,755
That's the pressure,
that's the timeline.
955
00:39:25,788 --> 00:39:28,955
And Elon has intimated
several times, that you,
956
00:39:28,988 --> 00:39:31,388
you can't do it on
40 hours a week.
957
00:39:32,421 --> 00:39:35,688
Berger: His response to that
is going as fast as possible.
958
00:39:35,721 --> 00:39:38,021
Reisman: He said several times
to the entire staff,
959
00:39:38,055 --> 00:39:39,955
if you're in a meeting,
and you feel like your time
960
00:39:39,988 --> 00:39:42,088
is not being well spent,
get up and leave.
961
00:39:42,121 --> 00:39:45,788
Do not apologize, do not make
excuses, just walk out.
962
00:39:45,821 --> 00:39:47,288
He's so determined to
accomplish those goals,
963
00:39:47,321 --> 00:39:49,188
that if it hurts
somebody's feelings,
964
00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:50,821
that's not going to stop him.
He'll do it.
965
00:39:55,321 --> 00:39:57,621
Higgins: Elon Musk
is all about defiance,
966
00:39:57,655 --> 00:40:01,988
whether he's fighting
rivals or regulators or,
967
00:40:03,321 --> 00:40:05,521
you know the media,
he's not gonna hold back.
968
00:40:05,555 --> 00:40:08,455
And Twitter is his
most potent tool.
969
00:40:08,488 --> 00:40:10,055
He's a guy that likes drama,
970
00:40:10,088 --> 00:40:12,921
he's a guy that likes attention,
971
00:40:12,955 --> 00:40:16,055
he likes the thrill of it all,
it would seem.
972
00:40:19,821 --> 00:40:21,788
If somebody is attacking
him on Twitter,
973
00:40:21,821 --> 00:40:24,288
he has a very hard time
letting go.
974
00:40:24,321 --> 00:40:26,088
Urban: People get upset about,
"why are you
975
00:40:26,121 --> 00:40:27,221
acting this way on Twitter,
976
00:40:27,255 --> 00:40:29,121
why are you, you know,
doing things that,
977
00:40:29,155 --> 00:40:30,388
you know, you shouldn't?"
978
00:40:30,421 --> 00:40:32,455
Well, they're trying to get
him to be more conformist,
979
00:40:32,488 --> 00:40:36,021
to conform to the kind of
'way people are supposed to be,'
980
00:40:36,055 --> 00:40:38,688
which is the direct opposite of
981
00:40:38,721 --> 00:40:40,555
what has gotten him where he is.
982
00:40:40,588 --> 00:40:42,421
Elon Musk: Look, I know
I sometimes say or post
983
00:40:42,455 --> 00:40:44,755
strange things, but that's
just how my brain works.
984
00:40:44,788 --> 00:40:47,355
To anyone I've offended,
I just wanna say,
985
00:40:47,388 --> 00:40:49,288
I reinvented electric cars
986
00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:51,188
and I'm sending people to
Mars in a rocketship.
987
00:40:51,221 --> 00:40:53,788
Did you think I was also going
to be a chill, normal dude?
988
00:40:56,255 --> 00:40:57,755
Higgins: If he thinks that
989
00:40:57,788 --> 00:41:00,821
Tesla or any part of his empire
990
00:41:00,855 --> 00:41:02,488
is in danger,
991
00:41:02,521 --> 00:41:04,455
he's going to defend himself.
992
00:41:04,488 --> 00:41:07,455
♪ (slow dramatic music) ♪
993
00:41:07,488 --> 00:41:10,188
♪
994
00:41:10,221 --> 00:41:13,588
Elon Musk: A future where we are
a space-faring civilization,
995
00:41:13,621 --> 00:41:15,855
and out there among the stars
996
00:41:15,888 --> 00:41:18,088
is infinitely more
exciting and inspiring
997
00:41:18,121 --> 00:41:20,488
than one where we are not.
998
00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:22,155
You basically, I think,
have to hate humanity
999
00:41:22,188 --> 00:41:23,421
if you don't like that future.
1000
00:41:23,455 --> 00:41:25,121
Knutsson: The vision for SpaceX
was simple.
1001
00:41:25,155 --> 00:41:27,155
You need to first send up cargo
1002
00:41:27,188 --> 00:41:29,655
and then deliver people safely.
1003
00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:31,621
And if he's gonna colonize Mars,
1004
00:41:31,655 --> 00:41:35,188
he's got to send lots of cargo,
and then people.
1005
00:41:36,988 --> 00:41:39,021
Berger: The Falcon One rocket
is not big enough
1006
00:41:39,055 --> 00:41:40,455
to send cargo to orbit.
1007
00:41:40,488 --> 00:41:42,521
And so they had to build
a much larger rocket,
1008
00:41:42,555 --> 00:41:43,955
which became the Falcon Nine.
1009
00:41:43,988 --> 00:41:46,188
Fernholz: The Falcon Heavy
is the largest rocket
1010
00:41:46,221 --> 00:41:48,655
that any private company
has ever built.
1011
00:41:48,688 --> 00:41:50,121
It is a complex rocket
1012
00:41:50,155 --> 00:41:52,621
that a lot of people were
worried would not work.
1013
00:41:52,655 --> 00:41:54,388
It would blow up
on the launch pad.
1014
00:41:55,255 --> 00:41:56,855
For a normal rocket company,
1015
00:41:56,888 --> 00:41:59,455
they would use something
called a mass simulator.
1016
00:41:59,488 --> 00:42:02,588
They'd just put a big metal box
on top of the rocket and say,
1017
00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,188
this weighs as much
as a satellite,
1018
00:42:04,221 --> 00:42:06,021
we've proved that it works.
1019
00:42:06,055 --> 00:42:07,588
But Elon Musk is a showman,
1020
00:42:07,621 --> 00:42:09,855
and so instead of a metal box,
1021
00:42:09,888 --> 00:42:13,288
he put a Tesla with
a mannequin inside,
1022
00:42:13,321 --> 00:42:15,521
and launched it on a trajectory
1023
00:42:15,555 --> 00:42:16,855
to pass by Mars.
1024
00:42:16,888 --> 00:42:19,121
(rocket engine roaring)
1025
00:42:19,155 --> 00:42:21,221
Knutsson: I remember being in
the newsroom that day.
1026
00:42:21,255 --> 00:42:23,155
Even the most jaded news people
1027
00:42:23,188 --> 00:42:24,821
were glued to the TV set,
1028
00:42:24,855 --> 00:42:26,888
to watch this rocket go up,
1029
00:42:26,921 --> 00:42:28,488
with a Roadster inside,
1030
00:42:28,521 --> 00:42:30,588
it makes it to space!
1031
00:42:30,621 --> 00:42:33,055
♪ (dramatic music) ♪
1032
00:42:33,088 --> 00:42:34,988
Berger: The image of a mannequin
1033
00:42:35,021 --> 00:42:36,921
sitting at the wheel of a Tesla
1034
00:42:36,955 --> 00:42:39,088
in space was incredibly iconic,
1035
00:42:39,121 --> 00:42:40,888
and like, was shared
around the world,
1036
00:42:40,921 --> 00:42:43,388
because it was just
so wild to look at.
1037
00:42:43,421 --> 00:42:46,555
♪ ♪
1038
00:42:46,588 --> 00:42:48,321
Fernholz: It was
not enough to say,
1039
00:42:48,355 --> 00:42:50,755
we're doing what a space company
has never done before
1040
00:42:50,788 --> 00:42:52,655
and launching this huge rocket.
1041
00:42:52,688 --> 00:42:54,255
We're also going to, by the way,
1042
00:42:54,288 --> 00:42:56,221
show off, my electric car.
1043
00:42:56,255 --> 00:42:58,021
And then you'd see
the rocket come down
1044
00:42:58,055 --> 00:42:59,688
and actually land
on a landing pad,
1045
00:42:59,721 --> 00:43:02,488
folding out its little feet.
1046
00:43:02,521 --> 00:43:05,155
It looked like
something out of a
1047
00:43:05,188 --> 00:43:07,455
science fiction film
from the 1960's.
1048
00:43:07,988 --> 00:43:10,121
This was actually
rocket reusability.
1049
00:43:11,855 --> 00:43:13,055
Elon Musk: I've thought about
what are the things
1050
00:43:13,088 --> 00:43:15,121
that are most gonna affect
the future of humanity.
1051
00:43:15,155 --> 00:43:17,388
And the three things I came
up with were the internet,
1052
00:43:17,421 --> 00:43:19,955
transitioning to a
sustainable energy economy,
1053
00:43:19,988 --> 00:43:21,955
and the third was
space exploration.
1054
00:43:21,988 --> 00:43:24,488
Pressman: When everybody said
Tesla was gonna go bankrupt,
1055
00:43:24,521 --> 00:43:27,055
there wasn't a lot of faith that
Tesla was going to make it.
1056
00:43:27,088 --> 00:43:30,121
And it turns out that
there was something there.
1057
00:43:30,155 --> 00:43:31,821
Elon Musk: The strategy
I had was to
1058
00:43:31,855 --> 00:43:34,121
start off with a high price,
1059
00:43:34,155 --> 00:43:36,055
low volume car,
being the sports car,
1060
00:43:36,088 --> 00:43:38,155
and then Phase Two
was the Model S,
1061
00:43:38,188 --> 00:43:40,255
and that's mid-price,
mid-volume.
1062
00:43:40,288 --> 00:43:43,121
And then Phase Three is the
1063
00:43:43,155 --> 00:43:45,055
high volume, low price car.
1064
00:43:45,088 --> 00:43:47,155
Higgins: There's so many
reasons why they should fail,
1065
00:43:47,188 --> 00:43:50,421
or why, questions on why
haven't they failed?
1066
00:43:50,455 --> 00:43:53,421
And people are, you know, not
wrong when they point to
1067
00:43:53,455 --> 00:43:55,488
the shortcomings of the company.
1068
00:43:55,521 --> 00:43:58,621
They do have some problems,
their service is not very great,
1069
00:43:58,655 --> 00:44:00,255
they've got quality issues.
1070
00:44:00,288 --> 00:44:03,688
On the other hand, they have
a car that you can go buy
1071
00:44:03,721 --> 00:44:06,455
and people are buying
and are being attracted to.
1072
00:44:06,488 --> 00:44:07,955
They've created a brand,
1073
00:44:07,988 --> 00:44:10,855
that resonates with people
around the world.
1074
00:44:12,755 --> 00:44:15,355
Pressman: Somehow he can
come up with really unique,
1075
00:44:15,388 --> 00:44:19,055
and interesting, often
disruptive solutions.
1076
00:44:19,088 --> 00:44:21,055
That's what he's
done with Tesla.
1077
00:44:21,088 --> 00:44:23,355
That's what he's
done with SpaceX.
1078
00:44:29,088 --> 00:44:31,355
Berger: The first step
was cargo, but then NASA
1079
00:44:31,388 --> 00:44:34,888
started planning seriously about
a commercial crew program
1080
00:44:34,921 --> 00:44:37,455
to use private vendors to get
astronauts into space.
1081
00:44:37,488 --> 00:44:40,721
And SpaceX was among
several bidders for that.
1082
00:44:40,755 --> 00:44:43,721
SpaceX was the upstart,
the new space,
1083
00:44:43,755 --> 00:44:45,788
the commercial space company,
and Boeing was very much
1084
00:44:45,821 --> 00:44:47,855
the blue-blood
traditional provider.
1085
00:44:50,055 --> 00:44:52,655
Boeing got $4.2 billion
from NASA
1086
00:44:52,688 --> 00:44:55,221
and SpaceX got $2.6 billion.
1087
00:44:55,255 --> 00:44:58,955
♪ (dramatic music) ♪
1088
00:44:58,988 --> 00:45:00,388
And SpaceX,
1089
00:45:00,421 --> 00:45:03,188
this nimble, fast moving,
1090
00:45:03,221 --> 00:45:05,688
y'know, upstart company,
lo and behold,
1091
00:45:05,721 --> 00:45:08,755
beat Boeing by a couple of
years, with far less money.
1092
00:45:09,955 --> 00:45:12,588
Knutsson: The Dragon launch,
this wasn't a car,
1093
00:45:12,621 --> 00:45:14,555
these were humans.
1094
00:45:14,588 --> 00:45:17,588
Fernholz: So, as the
first flight on SpaceX's
1095
00:45:17,621 --> 00:45:19,355
crew Dragon approached,
1096
00:45:19,388 --> 00:45:21,055
nerves were through the roof.
1097
00:45:21,088 --> 00:45:23,688
Controller: Three, two, one,
1098
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,455
zero, ignition.
1099
00:45:25,488 --> 00:45:27,555
Lift off of the Falcon 9
1100
00:45:27,588 --> 00:45:29,855
and crew Dragon, go NASA!
1101
00:45:29,888 --> 00:45:31,455
Reisman: And lo and behold,
it actually worked.
1102
00:45:32,888 --> 00:45:34,188
It cost the taxpayer
1103
00:45:34,221 --> 00:45:35,688
more than ten times less money,
1104
00:45:35,721 --> 00:45:38,121
than they projected
it would have,
1105
00:45:38,155 --> 00:45:39,688
if they did it the
traditional way.
1106
00:45:39,721 --> 00:45:41,955
And it turned out to
be a huge success.
1107
00:45:41,988 --> 00:45:44,955
Fernholz: The jubilation
at SpaceX and at NASA
1108
00:45:44,988 --> 00:45:46,588
was just through the roof,
1109
00:45:46,621 --> 00:45:49,288
that they had accomplished
this technical goal
1110
00:45:49,321 --> 00:45:53,388
and proven that this model of
public-private partnerships
1111
00:45:53,421 --> 00:45:54,855
in space can succeed.
1112
00:45:54,888 --> 00:45:58,388
(computers beeping)
1113
00:45:58,421 --> 00:46:01,855
Garver: Human space flight
for NASA has been sort of
1114
00:46:01,888 --> 00:46:04,621
the heart and soul
of the agency.
1115
00:46:05,688 --> 00:46:08,688
And launching the astronauts
1116
00:46:08,721 --> 00:46:10,621
to the space station
1117
00:46:10,655 --> 00:46:13,621
was an amazing achievement.
1118
00:46:14,821 --> 00:46:16,821
When they returned safely,
1119
00:46:16,855 --> 00:46:18,421
was when I finally could
1120
00:46:18,455 --> 00:46:20,988
let out a breath
and there is no doubt,
1121
00:46:21,021 --> 00:46:23,855
it is a game changer.
1122
00:46:23,888 --> 00:46:25,821
James L. Green: This is
a huge step for us.
1123
00:46:25,855 --> 00:46:28,755
And I think it's important
for the world to realize,
1124
00:46:28,788 --> 00:46:31,855
that we're going
into space to stay,
1125
00:46:31,888 --> 00:46:33,621
and we're going to continue on
1126
00:46:33,655 --> 00:46:34,921
to then the Moon,
1127
00:46:34,955 --> 00:46:36,255
and then onto Mars.
1128
00:46:36,288 --> 00:46:42,621
♪ (upbeat dramatic music) ♪
1129
00:46:42,655 --> 00:46:45,155
Berger: He's made space flight
cool again.
1130
00:46:45,188 --> 00:46:47,921
And I think he's had
an enormous impact
1131
00:46:47,955 --> 00:46:49,788
in changing the mindset
1132
00:46:49,821 --> 00:46:51,655
of what is possible.
1133
00:46:52,988 --> 00:46:54,188
Knutsson: Just look at
the Starship,
1134
00:46:54,221 --> 00:46:56,188
the rocket that's going to
take us to Mars.
1135
00:46:56,221 --> 00:46:58,288
It's as if it's ripped
right out of
1136
00:46:58,321 --> 00:46:59,921
the fantasy books
he used to read.
1137
00:46:59,955 --> 00:47:02,888
Tim Urban: It is a
36-story skyscraper,
1138
00:47:03,755 --> 00:47:05,888
that goes into space.
1139
00:47:05,921 --> 00:47:08,988
That thing...goes up in the air
1140
00:47:09,021 --> 00:47:11,355
and then 16 stories of it
1141
00:47:11,388 --> 00:47:13,855
gets pinged off
1142
00:47:13,888 --> 00:47:17,555
into space to head to Mars.
1143
00:47:17,588 --> 00:47:19,255
It lands on Mars,
1144
00:47:19,288 --> 00:47:22,421
it can then take people,
launch off Mars,
1145
00:47:22,455 --> 00:47:24,688
and come back to Earth
and land on Earth.
1146
00:47:24,721 --> 00:47:26,255
This is the new 1960's.
1147
00:47:26,288 --> 00:47:27,888
We're about to have a
1148
00:47:27,921 --> 00:47:30,555
new Neil Armstrong of some kind
1149
00:47:30,588 --> 00:47:33,421
land on Mars.
1150
00:47:33,455 --> 00:47:35,021
Berger: You know,
SpaceX has never lost
1151
00:47:35,055 --> 00:47:37,988
that founder's mentality.
It's gone from starting with
1152
00:47:38,021 --> 00:47:41,255
three employees,
to now almost 10,000.
1153
00:47:41,288 --> 00:47:43,488
I mean, they are now the
establishment
1154
00:47:43,521 --> 00:47:44,821
in the space industry.
1155
00:47:44,855 --> 00:47:47,555
They're probably NASA's most
important contractor now,
1156
00:47:47,588 --> 00:47:49,088
and certainly will
be in the future.
1157
00:47:49,121 --> 00:47:51,755
They launch far more rockets
than any company
1158
00:47:51,788 --> 00:47:53,355
or country in the world.
1159
00:47:53,388 --> 00:47:56,321
But, they're not resting
on those laurels.
1160
00:47:56,355 --> 00:47:58,255
There's still this
underlying culture
1161
00:47:58,288 --> 00:48:00,288
that is driving them to be
1162
00:48:00,321 --> 00:48:02,121
the upstarts, the renegades.
1163
00:48:02,155 --> 00:48:03,588
And you have to put that
all back on
1164
00:48:03,621 --> 00:48:05,621
Elon Musk and his personality.
1165
00:48:05,655 --> 00:48:07,588
Elon Musk: Human space flight
is the, is the reason
1166
00:48:07,621 --> 00:48:09,388
that SpaceX was created.
1167
00:48:09,421 --> 00:48:12,155
Crowley: It will be
interesting to see
1168
00:48:12,188 --> 00:48:15,588
what this next
half of his life is like.
1169
00:48:21,155 --> 00:48:24,588
Higgins: Elon's talked about how
he probably has too many ideas.
1170
00:48:24,621 --> 00:48:26,121
I've talked to people who say,
1171
00:48:26,155 --> 00:48:28,088
y'know, you'll be in
one of these moments
1172
00:48:28,121 --> 00:48:31,355
and you just kind of
see that light kind of go on,
1173
00:48:31,388 --> 00:48:33,555
where he's coming up
with an idea.
1174
00:48:33,588 --> 00:48:35,255
Knutsson: Tell me
one other person
1175
00:48:35,288 --> 00:48:37,655
that has reinvented
space travel,
1176
00:48:39,021 --> 00:48:42,188
created the first
all-electric car company,
1177
00:48:43,821 --> 00:48:46,188
figured out transportation
underground,
1178
00:48:46,221 --> 00:48:48,288
put satellites in the air,
1179
00:48:48,321 --> 00:48:50,021
providing the internet
to everybody,
1180
00:48:51,021 --> 00:48:53,155
solar panels on the roof.
1181
00:48:53,188 --> 00:48:54,888
Who's done all this?
1182
00:48:54,921 --> 00:48:57,155
Higgins: There is no
Tesla-tomorrow.
1183
00:48:57,188 --> 00:49:01,288
Elon Musk and Tesla
have won the day.
1184
00:49:01,321 --> 00:49:03,955
You see General Motors,
Volkswagen, Mercedes,
1185
00:49:03,988 --> 00:49:05,588
all these companies racing
1186
00:49:05,621 --> 00:49:07,888
to invest their fortunes
1187
00:49:07,921 --> 00:49:09,788
in bringing out electric cars.
1188
00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:12,355
Tesla and Elon Musk have
convinced the world
1189
00:49:12,388 --> 00:49:14,821
that the car should be
electrified.
1190
00:49:14,855 --> 00:49:17,555
Berger: He did the same thing
with the space industry.
1191
00:49:17,588 --> 00:49:20,655
He completely disrupted Boeing,
Lockheed Martin,
1192
00:49:20,688 --> 00:49:22,955
Northrop Grumman, Russia!
1193
00:49:22,988 --> 00:49:26,321
Just completely upended
their entire businesses.
1194
00:49:26,355 --> 00:49:28,455
No one was sitting around,
inviting him in.
1195
00:49:28,488 --> 00:49:30,721
He had to sort of,
be a bull in a china shop.
1196
00:49:30,755 --> 00:49:33,488
Knutsson: He brought a
rock and roll swagger
1197
00:49:33,521 --> 00:49:35,055
to the world of business
1198
00:49:35,088 --> 00:49:37,221
like the business
world has never seen.
1199
00:49:38,921 --> 00:49:41,055
Reisman: Elon will view himself
as a failure
1200
00:49:41,088 --> 00:49:43,288
if he doesn't fundamentally
change the course
1201
00:49:43,321 --> 00:49:46,055
of human history of,
of how we all live our lives.
1202
00:49:46,088 --> 00:49:49,055
Garver: He made more money
than I'm sure
1203
00:49:49,088 --> 00:49:51,321
he envisioned in his life.
1204
00:49:51,355 --> 00:49:53,321
And what does he want to do?
1205
00:49:53,355 --> 00:49:55,988
Expand humanity and
take those first steps.
1206
00:49:56,021 --> 00:49:59,088
That's an unbelievable thing
for an individual to do.
1207
00:50:00,055 --> 00:50:01,721
Fernholz: If you were to
ask Elon, he'll tell you
1208
00:50:01,755 --> 00:50:03,455
he'll end up in history
as the first man
1209
00:50:03,488 --> 00:50:04,855
to build a city on Mars.
1210
00:50:04,888 --> 00:50:07,121
Crowley: For anyone out there,
whether you like him
1211
00:50:07,155 --> 00:50:09,055
or you don't like him,
1212
00:50:09,088 --> 00:50:10,821
that's not taking him seriously,
1213
00:50:10,855 --> 00:50:14,188
they're missing an opportunity
to understand
1214
00:50:14,221 --> 00:50:16,488
one of the greatest minds
that is
1215
00:50:16,521 --> 00:50:19,955
shaping life on Earth
and maybe elsewhere.
1216
00:50:19,988 --> 00:50:24,221
♪ (triumphant uplifting music) ♪
1217
00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:33,855
♪ ♪
1218
00:50:37,321 --> 00:50:42,221
♪ ♪
1219
00:50:42,255 --> 00:50:46,621
♪ ♪
1220
00:50:46,655 --> 00:50:48,455
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1221
00:50:48,488 --> 00:50:50,888
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1222
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1223
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1224
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1227
00:51:06,455 --> 00:51:08,888
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1228
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1229
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