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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 2 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 3 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 4 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 5 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 6 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 7 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 8 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 10 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 This film is dedicated to all people who have lost their lives in the war. 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 This film is dedicated to all the people who have lost their lives in the war. 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It's a city that doesn't seem like it's made for people. 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 It's made for cars, for robots, you know, 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 who have a daily routine of going to work, 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,000 coming back from work, doing... 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 I don't know. 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 I don't know. 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 I don't know. 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 I don't know. 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 I don't know. 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 I don't know. 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Every day does the same thing, you know? 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 There's a different season coming 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,000 and doing something different, you know? 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Once a year or twice a year. 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 But why is that? 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 São Paulo doesn't have a beach. 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,000 If you're stressed, you go to the beach to surf, 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,000 okay, you're not stressed. 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 São Paulo is a concrete jungle, 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 building, building, building, building. 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,500 You build more buildings, less trees, less parks, more buildings, buildings, buildings... 44 00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:21,900 It's like you're building a wall around you. 45 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:24,800 You have to escape, in some way, but you have to run away from it. 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,700 So it's part of it. 47 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:29,100 That's the story of graffiti, you know? 48 00:02:29,100 --> 00:02:32,900 Graffiti. It's part of the thing. 49 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:35,700 And also that thing about the young people talking. 50 00:02:35,700 --> 00:02:38,700 There's a lot of people talking, you just have to stop and look. 51 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:40,700 It's not just graffiti, it's graffiti, you know? 52 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:43,000 There's a lot of people manifesting themselves and talking. 53 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 The guy is writing there because he needs to talk. 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,700 He needs to put something out there, you know? 55 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:54,700 I think graffiti is one of the only movements, nowadays, that young people talk about. 56 00:02:55,700 --> 00:03:00,700 Like, really. Because nowadays, they're very calm, very silent, you know? 57 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:03,700 There's a lot of wrong things, and few people talking, you know? 58 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:06,700 Things had to be more, more, you know? 59 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:08,200 These people are talking. 60 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,200 The graffiti is there, it's blaming the city. 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,200 It's blaming the city, you know? 62 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,200 In one way or another, they're expressing themselves, they're contesting something. 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,200 It's just the fact of the guy bullying a system and doing what he wants, 64 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,200 and that thing about the city suffocating you. 65 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,200 I need to talk, I need to go there and put my name there. 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,200 And the guy does it, you know? 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,200 The guy has energy. 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,200 He has energy and does it. 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Done. Fuck it. I did it. 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,200 I don't know. 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,200 I'm graduated from Silicon City and I'm here to talk out about it. 72 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Well, you didn't have to. 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,200 No. 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,200 There was nothing to do. 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,380 No. 76 00:03:52,380 --> 00:03:55,200 So, I said that you couldn't talk, and he didn't talk, and people are talking about it. 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,200 What? 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,200 I think those discussions, those actions, when 접 are telling people in organize, 79 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,200 they're completely disagreeable. 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,200 You aren't really trying to sit there and talk. 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,200 You're thinking in the timetable. 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:39,200 This is the first time I've done it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it or not, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it, so I'm 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:05:09,200 not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it, 84 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Only one person has it. 85 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,920 First World Cup 86 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,820 There are no more promotions. It's very easy to petty 87 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,740 As long as you are a petty player that doesn't want to 88 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:43,240 They're more worried about the traffic. 89 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,740 Everyone's trying to get somewhere. 90 00:05:44,740 --> 00:05:46,740 Do you think they'll worry about someone painting a wall? 91 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:49,240 They want to get to their house, to their place. 92 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,240 BABYLONIA 93 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,240 It's Babylonia, man. It's chaos. 94 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,240 A city of chaos deserves chaos, you know? 95 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,240 BABYLONIA 96 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,240 I don't want to drive here and see that gray wall. 97 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,240 I don't want to keep seeing gray, gray, gray. 98 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,240 I don't want to. I want to see everything. 99 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,240 So I'm going to change. 100 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,240 I'm going to put color there. I'm going to put my name there. 101 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,240 I want to see my name in the city. 102 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,240 BABYLONIA 103 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,240 For São Paulo to be what it is, 104 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,240 we have this freedom we've always had of painting on the streets, 105 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,240 without authorization or with authorization. 106 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,240 It made us create our work, build our work. 107 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Everything we learned was here. 108 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,240 It was in São Paulo, it was on the streets. 109 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,240 And many other graffiti artists too. 110 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,240 And this work was valued outside Brazil, you know? 111 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,240 And it was taken outside Brazil. 112 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,240 Things we learned here. 113 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,240 BABYLONIA 114 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,240 BABYLONIA 115 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,240 BABYLONIA 116 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,240 BABYLONIA 117 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,240 BABYLONIA 118 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,240 BABYLONIA 119 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,240 BABYLONIA 120 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,240 BABYLONIA 121 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,240 BABYLONIA 122 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,240 BABYLONIA 123 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,240 BABYLONIA 124 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,240 BABYLONIA 125 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,240 BABYLONIA 126 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,240 BABYLONIA 127 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,240 BABYLONIA 128 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,240 BABYLONIA 129 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,240 BABYLONIA 130 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,240 I think that when you're on the street, 131 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,240 you have the great power to talk to all the people 132 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,540 regardless of the cultural life that this person has or not. 133 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:22,620 You can talk about both positive and negative things. 134 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:27,000 I think it's a very strong weapon because it works with images. 135 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,580 The image is a direct language. 136 00:08:28,580 --> 00:08:31,080 You don't have to stop to read, you don't have to stop to listen. 137 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,640 You saw it, it's already in your mind, 138 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,800 and unconsciously the message will come in. 139 00:08:36,420 --> 00:08:37,840 Like a subliminal message. 140 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,440 I think the image on the street is very strong. 141 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,420 THE CITY IS A RELATIONSHIP 142 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:09,720 If we think of the city as a support 143 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,020 and graffiti as one of the demonstrations in the city, 144 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:15,220 I think graffiti is one of the most interesting things 145 00:09:15,220 --> 00:09:22,220 And as São Paulo is also a very chaotic city, I think that graffiti helps to compose this chaos that is the city. 146 00:09:22,220 --> 00:09:27,220 And that when I left Brazil, I thought that this chaos was something negative. 147 00:09:27,220 --> 00:09:31,220 And when I came back, I realized that this chaos is the best thing we have, you know? 148 00:09:31,220 --> 00:09:34,220 Because that's what makes us more creative, 149 00:09:34,220 --> 00:09:39,220 that the Brazilian way is something that doesn't just have a perverse side, which is the side of improvisation, 150 00:09:39,220 --> 00:09:44,220 but that has the side of creativity, the side of generosity. 151 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:47,220 And I think graffiti is part of that. 152 00:10:14,220 --> 00:10:17,220 And I think graffiti is part of that. 153 00:10:44,220 --> 00:10:47,220 And I think graffiti is part of that. 154 00:10:47,220 --> 00:10:50,220 What caught my attention when I started painting on the street, 155 00:10:50,220 --> 00:10:54,220 when I started painting on the street, 156 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:59,220 was that I would do something on the street and people would be able to see it. 157 00:10:59,220 --> 00:11:05,220 Like, someone I didn't know would be able to pass by and see what I did, you know? 158 00:11:05,220 --> 00:11:09,220 From the moment I put this on the street, it's more mine. 159 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:12,220 It becomes a public good. 160 00:11:14,220 --> 00:11:17,220 It becomes a public good. 161 00:11:29,220 --> 00:11:32,220 It's like the wall is a dirty support, you know? 162 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:34,220 And you don't touch the wall. 163 00:11:34,220 --> 00:11:36,220 What touches is the ink, right? 164 00:11:36,220 --> 00:11:39,220 It's crazy, you don't have direct contact with the wall. 165 00:11:39,220 --> 00:11:42,220 It's touching the wall, the ink is touching it. 166 00:11:42,220 --> 00:11:44,220 It's kind of magical. 167 00:11:44,220 --> 00:11:47,220 It comes out of your head, goes through your veins, 168 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:49,220 goes through your instrument. 169 00:11:49,220 --> 00:11:51,220 This is an instrument, you know? 170 00:11:51,220 --> 00:11:53,220 From the spray comes the ink that has the space, 171 00:11:53,220 --> 00:11:55,220 from the spray to the wall, you know? 172 00:11:55,220 --> 00:11:57,220 There's no direct contact. 173 00:11:57,220 --> 00:11:59,220 It's kind of magical, you don't touch the dirt. 174 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:02,220 You transform it into something nice. 175 00:12:08,220 --> 00:12:11,220 I think it's a magic that sometimes is subliminal. 176 00:12:11,220 --> 00:12:13,220 You don't know that it's happening, 177 00:12:13,220 --> 00:12:15,220 but it's happening. 178 00:12:15,220 --> 00:12:17,220 Spray has a lot of that. 179 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:18,220 Spray ink, you know? 180 00:12:18,220 --> 00:12:21,220 It's different from taking a brush and painting the wall. 181 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:23,220 Spray is kind of magical, you know? 182 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:24,220 What it offers you, you know? 183 00:12:24,220 --> 00:12:25,220 What it can do. 184 00:12:25,220 --> 00:12:27,220 If you take a spray, you'll want to write your name. 185 00:12:27,220 --> 00:12:28,220 You'll want to do it. 186 00:12:28,220 --> 00:12:30,220 Anyone you give a spray, the guy will... 187 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:32,220 Look, look where I can write. 188 00:12:32,220 --> 00:12:33,220 You know? 189 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:35,220 Automatically. 190 00:12:35,220 --> 00:12:37,220 This magic exists, you know? 191 00:12:38,220 --> 00:12:40,220 And when it makes you... 192 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:41,220 makes you... 193 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:43,220 It's part of you. 194 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:44,220 That's it, man. 195 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:45,220 That's just... 196 00:12:45,220 --> 00:12:46,220 Man, I'm out. 197 00:12:46,220 --> 00:12:47,220 I'm out. 198 00:12:47,220 --> 00:12:48,220 There's more. 199 00:12:48,220 --> 00:12:49,220 Let's go, let's go. 200 00:13:01,220 --> 00:13:05,220 I think this is the most direct way 201 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:09,220 to treat each person who passes by here as a human being. 202 00:13:09,220 --> 00:13:11,220 Because we don't see each car, 203 00:13:11,220 --> 00:13:14,220 each car here, as a gear. 204 00:13:14,220 --> 00:13:15,220 You know? 205 00:13:15,220 --> 00:13:18,220 I think each car is a story. 206 00:13:18,220 --> 00:13:21,220 The guy who fought with the woman, 207 00:13:21,220 --> 00:13:25,220 or the girl who fell in love, you know? 208 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:28,220 Each one has a story here. 209 00:13:28,220 --> 00:13:29,220 It's us. 210 00:13:29,220 --> 00:13:30,220 It's like... 211 00:13:30,220 --> 00:13:31,220 It's a human being. 212 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:35,220 I think this is a way to dialogue with these people, you know? 213 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:38,220 Like, graffiti gives this break, like... 214 00:13:38,220 --> 00:13:40,220 The guy sees this here one day and says, 215 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:41,220 this is gray, 216 00:13:41,220 --> 00:13:43,220 the other one sees it all colorful. 217 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:45,220 That's what's cool. 218 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:53,220 We were passing by in the car, 219 00:13:53,220 --> 00:13:55,220 and we saw it turned off. 220 00:13:55,220 --> 00:13:57,220 I think it was right when they finished turning it off 221 00:13:57,220 --> 00:13:59,220 that we passed by and saw it. 222 00:14:00,220 --> 00:14:01,220 It's a shock. 223 00:14:01,220 --> 00:14:02,220 You get used to it, right? 224 00:14:02,220 --> 00:14:03,220 It's kind of that thing, 225 00:14:03,220 --> 00:14:04,220 you pass by and you see, 226 00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:05,220 so it's like this, 227 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:06,220 so it's war, right? 228 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:08,220 So it's going to be like this now. 229 00:14:10,220 --> 00:14:20,220 When you see one graffiti that you did down there, 230 00:14:20,220 --> 00:14:22,220 another that you did on the other side of the city, 231 00:14:22,220 --> 00:14:23,220 or a certain avenue, 232 00:14:23,220 --> 00:14:25,220 but when you erase a work like this, 233 00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:26,220 this size, right? 234 00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:28,220 You feel kind of persecuted. 235 00:14:28,220 --> 00:14:30,220 You say, now the thing is real, 236 00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:31,220 the thing is serious. 237 00:14:40,220 --> 00:14:42,220 So you don't see this in the city. 238 00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:49,220 Where you see gray, that's us. 239 00:14:50,220 --> 00:14:52,220 You see gray walls, that's us. 240 00:14:56,220 --> 00:14:57,220 You can erase it, 241 00:14:57,220 --> 00:14:58,220 this is kind of horrible. 242 00:15:01,220 --> 00:15:02,220 It's erased. 243 00:15:06,220 --> 00:15:07,220 You know the chronogram? 244 00:15:07,220 --> 00:15:08,220 There's no color. 245 00:15:08,220 --> 00:15:09,220 Look, 246 00:15:09,220 --> 00:15:11,220 But from here to here, it'll be over. 247 00:15:11,220 --> 00:15:12,220 Look, can you see it? 248 00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:19,220 It's already clean here, we'll leave it. 249 00:15:22,220 --> 00:15:24,220 They're improving the work. 250 00:15:24,220 --> 00:15:26,220 They're erasing more. 251 00:15:27,220 --> 00:15:30,220 They're using more art now, right? 252 00:15:31,220 --> 00:15:34,220 After this fight of ours, they're using more art. 253 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:42,220 We're going to work here all night, all day long, 254 00:15:42,220 --> 00:15:44,220 to finish it by tomorrow, 255 00:15:44,220 --> 00:15:47,220 to be able to deliver to the population the finished work by tomorrow. 256 00:16:02,220 --> 00:16:07,220 You spend seven years in a place and you see the same painting. 257 00:16:09,220 --> 00:16:12,220 Then, from one day to the next, it's gray on one side. 258 00:16:12,220 --> 00:16:17,220 It's like taking a part of the life of the person, 259 00:16:17,220 --> 00:16:19,220 in a way, of those who pass through here. 260 00:16:21,220 --> 00:16:24,220 The guys had spent more than a month to make a panel. 261 00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:27,220 The guys spent six months running after sponsorship 262 00:16:27,220 --> 00:16:29,220 to be able to build the panel. 263 00:16:30,220 --> 00:16:35,220 And for an internal bureaucracy of the city hall of a law, 264 00:16:35,220 --> 00:16:37,220 the guys erased it, you know? 265 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:38,220 We're already very poor in culture 266 00:16:38,220 --> 00:16:39,220 to erase culture. 267 00:16:39,220 --> 00:16:44,220 I'm not talking about erasing a letter, my name, 268 00:16:44,220 --> 00:16:46,220 I'm not talking about erasing another name. 269 00:16:46,220 --> 00:16:49,220 We're talking about erasing works of artists, you know? 270 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:55,220 In the whole region, there's a truck like this. 271 00:16:55,220 --> 00:16:58,220 There's one, there's another. 272 00:16:58,220 --> 00:17:00,220 If they did it like here, it would be cool. 273 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:03,220 If they didn't do those black stuff, 274 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:04,220 what's this? 275 00:17:04,220 --> 00:17:05,220 This is ugly, man. 276 00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:07,220 Look at this, what's this? 277 00:17:09,220 --> 00:17:10,220 Look. 278 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:11,220 It's horrible. 279 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:12,220 It's horrible. 280 00:17:12,220 --> 00:17:14,220 It's all blurred, all messed up. 281 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:15,220 That's art, right? 282 00:17:15,220 --> 00:17:18,220 For those who understand art, this is a beauty. 283 00:17:30,220 --> 00:17:34,220 Look, I think, from the point of view of advertising, 284 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:35,220 I think it's very cool. 285 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:38,220 Because it was unbearable to have bigger and bigger outdoors, 286 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:39,220 you know, in the city, 287 00:17:39,220 --> 00:17:43,220 and you have to live with this excess of logos, 288 00:17:43,220 --> 00:17:45,220 of advertising. 289 00:17:46,220 --> 00:17:50,220 I particularly like advertising posters. 290 00:17:50,220 --> 00:17:54,220 There's something that gives you information about that moment, 291 00:17:54,220 --> 00:17:55,220 you know? 292 00:17:55,220 --> 00:17:58,220 Even if it's just advertising. 293 00:18:00,220 --> 00:18:02,220 But I also think that now they have to think, 294 00:18:02,220 --> 00:18:04,220 well, so in what way are we going to allow 295 00:18:04,220 --> 00:18:07,220 certain manifestations to also be possible? 296 00:18:07,220 --> 00:18:08,220 Graffiti is one of them. 297 00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:11,220 You saw that São Paulo, even internationally, 298 00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:13,220 people are paying attention to that. 299 00:18:13,220 --> 00:18:16,220 Like, a lot of kids who started doing graffiti 300 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:18,220 lost their graffiti there, you know? 301 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:19,220 With this law. 302 00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:21,220 Look how cool it is, you see? 303 00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:23,220 Look at this beautiful work, look. 304 00:18:23,220 --> 00:18:25,220 It's a lot of work, huh? 305 00:18:25,220 --> 00:18:26,220 It's a culture work, right? 306 00:18:26,220 --> 00:18:27,220 Yeah. 307 00:18:27,220 --> 00:18:30,220 How many times a week do you go out? 308 00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:32,220 Every day, like, on Friday. 309 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:35,220 Every day there's a service, every day, every day. 310 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:36,220 Wow. 311 00:18:36,220 --> 00:18:37,220 Yeah, it's a lot of work. 312 00:18:37,220 --> 00:18:38,220 It's a lot of work. 313 00:18:38,220 --> 00:18:39,220 You know? 314 00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:43,220 Do you think it's art? 315 00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:44,220 It's art. 316 00:18:46,220 --> 00:18:47,220 We didn't have the right to erase, 317 00:18:47,220 --> 00:18:52,220 just because we thought there was a law that could erase it. 318 00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:54,220 Man, ask if the people want to erase it. 319 00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:57,220 That's a mistake. 320 00:18:57,220 --> 00:18:58,220 Obviously, it's a mistake. 321 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:00,220 It's a work that, you know, 322 00:19:00,220 --> 00:19:03,220 artists went there, did it, dedicated themselves, 323 00:19:03,220 --> 00:19:05,220 they stayed for months. 324 00:19:05,220 --> 00:19:08,220 It's very nice for the city. I think, I don't know, 325 00:19:08,220 --> 00:19:12,220 80% of the people would approve, 90%, 60%. 326 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:15,220 The majority would certainly approve of leaving it there. 327 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:18,220 We need to know what criteria they are adopting 328 00:19:18,220 --> 00:19:21,220 to be able to erase a work like this, of more than 700 square meters. 329 00:19:21,220 --> 00:19:24,220 It's beautiful. There are some that are beautiful. 330 00:19:24,220 --> 00:19:28,220 Then we don't erase them. We only erase the ugly ones. 331 00:19:28,220 --> 00:19:32,220 Those that are ugly, that have no condition, then we erase them. 332 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:35,220 They have a third party company that cleans the graffiti, 333 00:19:35,220 --> 00:19:38,220 that follows, that looks, says, erase there, erase there. 334 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:42,220 But the guys themselves who erase don't know what they are doing either. 335 00:19:42,220 --> 00:19:47,220 If the criteria are complicated, I think it's possible to rethink these criteria. 336 00:19:47,220 --> 00:19:52,220 Whoever is choosing will have a subjective pattern, right? 337 00:19:52,220 --> 00:19:56,220 Anyway, if you choose to erase one and not erase the other, 338 00:19:56,220 --> 00:20:00,220 it may be, anyway, the group of super heroes of graffiti. 339 00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:01,220 It won't work. 340 00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:02,220 They will have a pattern. 341 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:04,220 They will have a subjective pattern. 342 00:20:04,220 --> 00:20:06,220 Man's best friend. 343 00:20:06,220 --> 00:20:08,220 As long as I don't know money. 344 00:20:08,220 --> 00:20:10,220 As long as I don't know money. 345 00:20:10,220 --> 00:20:13,220 Have you ever made a model on a dog's cart? 346 00:20:13,220 --> 00:20:14,220 No. 347 00:20:14,220 --> 00:20:16,220 Damn, in Zonózio? 348 00:20:17,220 --> 00:20:19,220 You'll see what a cart is. 349 00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:21,220 You haven't done it yet, have you? 350 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:22,220 It's cruel. 351 00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:24,220 I worked there for eight years. 352 00:20:24,220 --> 00:20:26,220 Which one are you going to cover? 353 00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:27,220 This one. 354 00:20:27,220 --> 00:20:29,220 I'm just going to expose it here. 355 00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:31,220 This is not a job. 356 00:20:31,220 --> 00:20:32,220 This one. 357 00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:34,220 This one, huh? 358 00:20:34,220 --> 00:20:35,220 This one? 359 00:20:35,220 --> 00:20:36,220 Yes. 360 00:20:36,220 --> 00:20:37,220 This one. 361 00:20:37,220 --> 00:20:38,220 It's just going to be the graffiti in the middle. 362 00:20:38,220 --> 00:20:39,220 This one will be there. 363 00:20:39,220 --> 00:20:41,220 The thing is there. 364 00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:42,220 Okay? 365 00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:44,220 This is just that. 366 00:20:44,220 --> 00:20:45,220 Work. 367 00:20:45,220 --> 00:20:47,220 Do you think it's graffiti? 368 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:49,220 I think it's everything. 369 00:20:49,220 --> 00:20:50,220 What do you think of that? 370 00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:51,220 What do you think? 371 00:20:51,220 --> 00:20:52,220 It's not true. 372 00:20:52,220 --> 00:20:54,220 Do you think it's better than that? 373 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:59,220 If you don't offer what people see, you don't take what people can see, you know? 374 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:00,220 I did it at the end of the week. 375 00:21:00,220 --> 00:21:02,220 They do it at the end of the week. 376 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:05,220 The next week, no, the second one is on holidays, 377 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:07,220 Tuesday, Wednesday, you pass it, 378 00:21:07,220 --> 00:21:09,220 most of it is new. 379 00:21:09,220 --> 00:21:10,220 Then it's new again. 380 00:21:10,220 --> 00:21:13,220 Take this money you're spending on paint, man. 381 00:21:13,220 --> 00:21:16,220 Send it to clean the river, send it to clean the well. 382 00:21:16,220 --> 00:21:18,220 They get tired of it, right? 383 00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:19,220 They can't do it. 384 00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:21,220 We do it, we do it, I go there and I say, 385 00:21:21,220 --> 00:21:23,220 I don't know if they're going to make it. 386 00:21:23,220 --> 00:21:26,220 They'll have to spend it, right? 387 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:29,220 They'll have to buy the three things, right? 388 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:31,220 They're going to paint, they're going to paint and they haven't covered it, 389 00:21:31,220 --> 00:21:32,220 they're going to paint and they haven't covered it. 390 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:33,220 There's no way. 391 00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:35,220 No, I was pretty pissed too, because, 392 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:38,220 like this, they had erased the mural in one day, 393 00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:40,220 the next day they called Milha da Folha. 394 00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:41,220 The media doesn't know what's going on, 395 00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:42,220 I know they erased it. 396 00:21:42,220 --> 00:21:46,220 The mayor, he's going to have to apologize publicly. 397 00:21:46,220 --> 00:21:49,220 After a week, a week, the media didn't stop talking, 398 00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:50,220 they called us. 399 00:21:50,220 --> 00:21:52,220 The city hall called. 400 00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:53,220 After a month. 401 00:21:53,220 --> 00:21:55,220 Kassab himself called, then Matarazzo called, 402 00:21:55,220 --> 00:21:56,220 Andreas Matarazzo. 403 00:21:56,220 --> 00:21:58,220 The city hall called the artists 404 00:21:58,220 --> 00:21:59,220 and will continue. 405 00:21:59,220 --> 00:22:01,220 They're going to make that panel available 406 00:22:01,220 --> 00:22:03,220 so that another graffiti can be made there. 407 00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:16,220 I don't think there's a mistake of 700 square meters. 408 00:22:16,220 --> 00:22:17,220 It doesn't exist. 409 00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:19,220 It doesn't exist. 410 00:22:19,220 --> 00:22:21,220 For me, it doesn't exist. 411 00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:24,220 I've been thinking about it, you know? 412 00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:26,220 I even thought for a moment, like, 413 00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:28,220 fuck, you'll see that the guys really made a mistake, right? 414 00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:31,220 They took it and erased the wall and everything. 415 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:34,220 But fuck, it's too wrong. 416 00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:36,220 It's a very big mistake. 417 00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:38,220 It's too big. 418 00:22:38,220 --> 00:22:40,220 I think it's impossible for that to happen. 419 00:22:40,220 --> 00:22:44,220 We saw how important it is for the city, you know? 420 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:45,220 For people to call like this, 421 00:22:45,220 --> 00:22:47,220 fuck, they erased it, man. 422 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:50,220 Everyone calling, everyone talking, you know? 423 00:22:50,220 --> 00:22:51,220 And now you see us doing it, 424 00:22:51,220 --> 00:22:53,220 that the work is back, man, 425 00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:55,220 the reaction of the people who pass by. 426 00:22:55,220 --> 00:22:57,220 Cool, it's back, right? 427 00:22:57,220 --> 00:22:59,220 Congratulations, thank you, right? 428 00:22:59,220 --> 00:23:00,220 You see how important it is. 429 00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:01,220 I mean, this is already part of it. 430 00:23:01,220 --> 00:23:03,220 One drawing is joining another. 431 00:23:03,220 --> 00:23:05,220 The wall is not all finished yet, 432 00:23:05,220 --> 00:23:07,220 but it's still all coming together, like, 433 00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:10,220 the water that's at the bottom goes to the end, 434 00:23:10,220 --> 00:23:12,220 suddenly a mountain appears, 435 00:23:12,220 --> 00:23:14,220 it's all one thing here. 436 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:16,220 There are still parts that will be made in Nunca's part, 437 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:18,220 I'm still going to make the element there, 438 00:23:18,220 --> 00:23:20,220 I think the twins are going to do something there too. 439 00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:32,220 There I need to put in this, 440 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:33,220 another eye. 441 00:23:33,220 --> 00:23:34,220 Look. 442 00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:36,420 There, that's a Love 443 00:23:36,420 --> 00:23:40,500 UNICORN 444 00:23:57,220 --> 00:24:00,160 hash brown 445 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:21,760 It's black, but I'm gonna use it! 446 00:24:27,220 --> 00:24:50,220 I think it's cool that they can be showing their work on a larger scale, you know? 447 00:24:50,220 --> 00:24:54,220 For the first time they are doing a work of this scale, of this size. 448 00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:57,220 And I think this is also cool for their work, you know? 449 00:24:57,220 --> 00:25:01,220 To try to break some barriers that may exist for them, you know? 450 00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:07,220 To have to think of a theme to fit with a theme that we are keen to do, that I'm never keen to do, or Nina, you know? 451 00:25:07,220 --> 00:25:12,220 You see, they are the guys who paint the most in São Paulo. 452 00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:17,220 They are present in the whole city, you know? 453 00:25:17,220 --> 00:25:21,220 We invite them to be part of the work. 454 00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:23,220 They have a good style, right? 455 00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:25,220 It's a new generation that has a current language. 456 00:25:25,220 --> 00:25:28,220 They care about this thing of defending a style, you know? 457 00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:30,220 They have their own style. 458 00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:33,220 And they are the current generation, you know? 459 00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:37,220 They are absorbing, you know, this time that we are living. 460 00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:41,220 It's cool to be together too, to develop the work together, you know? 461 00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:47,220 To know how each one develops the whole thing, you know? 462 00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:49,220 Where do these references come from and everything. 463 00:25:49,220 --> 00:25:51,220 That's cool. 464 00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:55,220 It's cool. 465 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:20,220 The graffiti has this culture of all the people who paint together having everything, you know? 466 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:22,220 We've known each other for many years. 467 00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:27,220 That's what makes us like each other and want to always be painting together. 468 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:34,220 I think that when you are an artist who came from this environment, 469 00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:41,220 I think it's different from an artist who learned at the university, you know? 470 00:26:41,220 --> 00:26:45,220 And who knows all the history of art. 471 00:26:45,220 --> 00:26:49,220 I believe that graffiti is another university. 472 00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:51,220 It's not paid. 473 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:56,220 Anyone can do it, you know? 474 00:26:56,220 --> 00:27:01,220 The fact that you have this habit of being on the street, I think it makes you more chubby. 475 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:05,220 It kind of makes you less mimicked, you know? 476 00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:07,220 Right? 477 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:23,220 There's no beige on top of it. 478 00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:25,220 Just that little piece. 479 00:27:25,220 --> 00:27:27,220 You do everything around it. 480 00:27:31,220 --> 00:27:33,220 This life is hard, man. 481 00:27:33,220 --> 00:27:35,220 Yeah. 482 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:44,220 It's worse than it is, because there's no energy here. 483 00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:46,220 The battery? 484 00:27:46,220 --> 00:27:47,220 Yeah, the battery's dead. 485 00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:49,220 I think it's off down there. 486 00:27:49,220 --> 00:27:51,220 Turn it on! 487 00:27:51,220 --> 00:27:53,220 Man, the battery's dead. 488 00:27:53,220 --> 00:27:55,220 No, it's not. It's off there. 489 00:27:55,220 --> 00:27:57,220 Last yellow light. Red. 490 00:27:57,220 --> 00:27:59,220 That's it, go. Now it's on. 491 00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:01,220 The machine is off. 492 00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:02,220 The battery's dead. 493 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:04,220 No, it's not. The machine's off down there. 494 00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:06,220 Turn the machine on. 495 00:28:06,220 --> 00:28:08,220 It's on. 496 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:09,220 It's on? 497 00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:10,220 It's on the other side of the window. 498 00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:13,220 The button on the left, right? 499 00:28:13,220 --> 00:28:15,220 That's it, the battery's dead. 500 00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:16,220 Wow, wow, wow. 501 00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:18,220 What an idiot you are, man. 502 00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:20,220 Wow, you're an idiot, man. 503 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:22,220 You eat shit, it's not possible, man. 504 00:28:22,220 --> 00:28:24,220 Just lower it, that's it. Sorry. 505 00:28:24,220 --> 00:28:25,220 Really? 506 00:28:25,220 --> 00:28:27,220 Take the whole top off here. 507 00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:30,220 It's ok. 508 00:28:30,220 --> 00:28:36,220 I'll tell the guys to take the cars out too. 509 00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:39,220 Hey, Claudio! 510 00:28:39,220 --> 00:28:41,220 Take the car out. 511 00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:44,220 Hey, Gustavo! 512 00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:46,220 Gustavo! 513 00:28:46,220 --> 00:28:48,220 Take the car out of there. 514 00:28:55,220 --> 00:28:57,220 It's mine, man. 515 00:28:57,220 --> 00:28:59,220 Fuck. 516 00:29:00,220 --> 00:29:04,220 Here comes the man who's jealous of the Gêmeos, right? 517 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:08,220 I don't need it because the Gêmeos is weak. 518 00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:10,220 The Gêmeos is very weak. 519 00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:15,220 Pay a lot of money to Nunca. 520 00:29:15,220 --> 00:29:17,220 Look, watch out. 521 00:29:18,220 --> 00:29:23,220 The Gêmeos wrote a letter to Nunca down there. 522 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:28,220 He wrote to Nunca because he copied Nunca. 523 00:29:28,220 --> 00:29:29,220 Will it end soon? 524 00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:33,220 I think it should end soon, man. 525 00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:34,220 What? 526 00:29:34,220 --> 00:29:36,220 It was already written and there's no end to it. 527 00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:37,220 Anyway... 528 00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:38,220 Give her a lifetime, man. 529 00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:41,220 The Gêmeos wrote about God. 530 00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:42,220 And they got stuck on Gêmeos. 531 00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:44,220 One time they'd fert your god. 532 00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:45,220 Well, I saw that once. 533 00:29:45,220 --> 00:29:48,220 One of the time by Arduino,an decimal... 534 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:50,220 Yeah. 535 00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:52,220 At 6 that time? 536 00:29:52,220 --> 00:29:53,220 That's right. 537 00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:54,220 And it was in there. 538 00:29:54,220 --> 00:29:58,220 There was a G 립erm adaptations of Honors' correspondents. 539 00:29:58,220 --> 00:29:59,220 Yeah. 540 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:02,220 What's up, Betinho? 541 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:08,220 Man, this is the first rap song I've ever heard in my life, I think. 542 00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:16,220 I'm Tadu dos Gêmeos. 543 00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:21,220 We started to go to São Bento around 1986, 544 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:25,220 around 1985, 1986, we were still young. 545 00:30:25,220 --> 00:30:29,220 I think what represented us was what we are today. 546 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:34,220 The hip-hop movement brings together four cultures. 547 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:38,220 In music, rap. In dance, breakdancing. 548 00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:42,220 In pickups, DJs. And in writing, graffiti. 549 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:47,220 In fact, we learned, from everything we know about hip-hop culture, 550 00:30:48,220 --> 00:30:51,220 the first lessons, the first things we learned were there. 551 00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:54,220 We saw a guy from the North Zone with an information, 552 00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:57,220 a guy from the South Zone didn't have it, he brought another one, 553 00:30:58,220 --> 00:31:00,220 and everyone exchanged information. 554 00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:04,220 You take Taíde, DJ Yung, all this generation. 555 00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:08,220 Even Racionais, KLJ, they danced breakdancing. 556 00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:11,220 All this generation that came from there. 557 00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:14,220 That was the beginning of everything. 558 00:31:17,220 --> 00:31:19,220 We danced breakdancing for a long time too, 559 00:31:20,220 --> 00:31:22,220 but we followed this line of graffiti. 560 00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:26,220 I was the one who took them to dance breakdancing at São Bento Lake. 561 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:33,220 I never accompanied them to paint, for example, trains, train cars, 562 00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:36,220 or hidden walls, like that. 563 00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:38,220 No, I never did that. 564 00:31:39,220 --> 00:31:41,220 I always told them, take care, because if the police catch you, 565 00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:43,220 the problem is yours. 566 00:31:44,220 --> 00:31:45,220 I would tell them. 567 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:50,220 In 1986, 1987, we painted exactly what the Americans painted. 568 00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:55,220 The idea of style and competing for the best style 569 00:31:55,220 --> 00:31:57,220 is the key to all forms of rocking. 570 00:32:00,220 --> 00:32:02,220 For the rap MC, it's rocking the mic. 571 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:06,220 For the b-boys, it's rocking your body and breakdancing. 572 00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:10,220 Or for writers, rocking the city with your name on a train. 573 00:32:12,220 --> 00:32:13,220 We wanted to do this, get out of the list. 574 00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:16,220 We have to respect the people who were born, 575 00:32:16,220 --> 00:32:19,220 who were born, from the old people, but we have to keep going. 576 00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:30,220 Everything that was meant to be done with graffiti in relation to style, 577 00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:34,220 with influence from New York, from Europe, 578 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:36,220 has already been done, you know? 579 00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:43,220 And with Brazil, it seems like it's another experience we have here, 580 00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:48,220 to get a cultural, regional reference. 581 00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:51,220 I thought graffiti was cool. 582 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:55,220 Graffiti, in reality, for us, was not at the time of São Bento. 583 00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:59,220 There we learned to draw, to see how it was, the culture, everything. 584 00:33:00,220 --> 00:33:03,220 We started doing graffiti, really, in the late 80s, 585 00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:05,220 from 88 to 90. 586 00:33:06,220 --> 00:33:08,220 That's when we started going to the streets and trying to put... 587 00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:10,220 We didn't stay much longer in São Bento. 588 00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:12,220 We wanted to start occupying the streets, 589 00:33:13,220 --> 00:33:14,220 to start doing graffiti on the streets. 590 00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:17,220 To get out of those things, to keep drawing in t-shirts, on paper, 591 00:33:18,220 --> 00:33:19,220 and face the street, like a support. 592 00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:21,220 Discover São Paulo through graffiti. 593 00:33:22,220 --> 00:33:23,220 To really see what São Paulo is. 594 00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:25,220 How is São Paulo, how is it to walk in São Paulo, 595 00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:27,220 how is it to paint in São Paulo, 596 00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:29,220 how is it to paint a police car in São Paulo. 597 00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:38,220 It was at the time that we met Vinho and Espeto. 598 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:40,220 They were also doing graffiti at that time. 599 00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:43,220 It's a group of people who did it without thinking, 600 00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:46,220 we didn't really know what it was going to be. 601 00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:49,220 You know, they were doing it out of love. 602 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:51,220 Espeto was a guy who always helped us. 603 00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:53,220 He helped us a lot. 604 00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:55,220 We always exchanged a lot of figurines. 605 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:58,220 He was one of the earliest guys with style. 606 00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:01,220 In 1984, he said he had a style. 607 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:03,220 I said, fuck, how does this guy have a style? 608 00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:05,220 Very strong. 609 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:07,220 That helped us develop ours. 610 00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:09,220 In 1999, when we started traveling, 611 00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:11,220 we already had this strong style. 612 00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:13,220 And that's what we took out. 613 00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:15,220 That's what we built here. 614 00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:17,220 And that's when people started to get to know us. 615 00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:18,220 Fuck, that's cool. 616 00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:20,220 I remember we were doing an exhibition in Hamburgo, 617 00:34:21,220 --> 00:34:22,220 and some guys came up to us and said, 618 00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:24,220 man, that's not graffiti you're doing. 619 00:34:25,220 --> 00:34:26,220 What is that? 620 00:34:27,220 --> 00:34:28,220 We said, no, it's really a place 621 00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:30,220 that has always been very lacking in information. 622 00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:32,220 You didn't know a lot of things. 623 00:34:33,220 --> 00:34:35,220 The first time we saw an American fat cap 624 00:34:36,220 --> 00:34:38,220 was in 1993, when Barry came here 625 00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:40,220 and brought a beak. 626 00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:44,220 Man, when we saw this, we said, fuck, that's how you do it. 627 00:34:45,220 --> 00:34:46,220 Like, there's a beak that comes out of nowhere. 628 00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:48,220 You take a thick piece and you tune it, you know? 629 00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:51,220 I remember that Gêmeos, they sold beaks that were... 630 00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:53,220 They were very bad. 631 00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:56,220 Deodorant beaks, something like that, 632 00:34:57,220 --> 00:34:58,220 that came out kind of thick, you know? 633 00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:00,220 The guys invented the Brazilian fat cap. 634 00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:02,220 Yeah, I bought it once with the guys, 635 00:35:03,220 --> 00:35:04,220 I didn't like it very much and threw it away, you know? 636 00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:06,220 The rest. 637 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:08,220 The fact that spray paint is expensive 638 00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:11,220 also made us develop a lot of ways to paint. 639 00:35:12,220 --> 00:35:13,220 Use latex first, as a base, 640 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:15,220 then contour with spray to make it cheaper. 641 00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:16,220 I remember the guys saying, 642 00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:18,220 man, how do you use latex to paint graffiti? 643 00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:20,220 What do you mean? 644 00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:22,220 I remember the first years we went there, 645 00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:24,220 we went to a hip-hop shop, a graffiti shop, 646 00:35:25,220 --> 00:35:27,220 and there was a gigantic wall full of spray cans. 647 00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:29,220 Everything that is color, everything that is brand, everything that is beak. 648 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:31,220 We said, man, 649 00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:33,220 damn, crazy, right? 650 00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:35,220 What do you want, man? 651 00:35:36,220 --> 00:35:37,220 Just one color and a can of latex, okay. 652 00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:39,220 So that made Brazil, São Paulo, 653 00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:41,220 which is the cradle of graffiti, 654 00:35:42,220 --> 00:35:43,220 have an identity. 655 00:35:45,220 --> 00:35:48,220 And this identity made the difference of graffiti out there. 656 00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:19,220 I believe that all these artists, 657 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:24,220 they have a certain intimacy with this wild environment on the street, you know? 658 00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:28,220 For me, doing this work at Tete, 659 00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:34,220 it's as if they had called a cannibal to have a cup of tea. 660 00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:41,220 I think it's what everyone thinks it is. 661 00:36:42,220 --> 00:36:44,220 We did what we were thinking of doing, 662 00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:46,220 the first project was this, 663 00:36:47,220 --> 00:36:51,220 doing the masked, naked character holding a bunch of cameras. 664 00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:53,220 And I think, I don't know, 665 00:36:54,220 --> 00:36:55,220 everyone interprets it the way they want. 666 00:36:56,220 --> 00:36:58,220 You know, it really was like a mind-opening experience for me 667 00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:01,220 to come to São Paulo and just see what they are on the street. 668 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,220 I loved it. 669 00:37:04,220 --> 00:37:05,220 I mean, what I was doing when I was there in São Paulo, 670 00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:07,220 every day, every morning I'd wake up, 671 00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:09,220 because I was there when the São Paulo Biennale was on, 672 00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:11,220 I had lots of meetings, I was very busy, 673 00:37:12,220 --> 00:37:13,220 but every morning I'd wake up at 7 o'clock, 674 00:37:13,220 --> 00:37:14,220 and I'd have really long walks, 675 00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:17,220 walk around the city, walk around these, 676 00:37:18,220 --> 00:37:20,220 underneath the car motorways, 677 00:37:21,220 --> 00:37:22,220 take loads of photographs, 678 00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:24,220 it was like heaven, it was amazing. 679 00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:27,220 It really just showed me that this art can be so important 680 00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:29,220 and really inspiring, 681 00:37:30,220 --> 00:37:31,220 and I just thought we have to bring this to London, 682 00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:34,220 and luckily I got the opportunity to do that. 683 00:37:40,220 --> 00:37:41,220 It's no longer graffiti, 684 00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,220 but at the same time, 685 00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:45,220 the essence is that of graffiti. 686 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:47,220 So, it's hard to say today, 687 00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:49,220 are you more graffiti lovers? 688 00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:51,220 What is this? 689 00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:53,220 Is this art? 690 00:37:54,220 --> 00:37:55,220 You can put it as contemporary art, 691 00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:59,220 but you take it out of what would be graffiti, right? 692 00:38:00,220 --> 00:38:02,220 So, I see that, like, 693 00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:05,220 there's all the essence of graffiti, 694 00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:08,220 but I think they're on a little bit of a different level. 695 00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:10,220 But it's hard to dissociate. 696 00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:13,220 It's practically impossible to dissociate. 697 00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:15,220 This here is graffiti, this here is on the street, man. 698 00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:42,220 But it's hard to dissociate. 699 00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:43,760 You may think that's just some kind of fabric 700 00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:46,220 but this is called graffiti. 701 00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:48,220 So, I started graffiti the other day 702 00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:49,500 I did in Cl özantz 703 00:38:51,220 --> 00:38:52,220 I just put a couple of somethings 704 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:54,220 Then I put on my shirt 705 00:38:55,220 --> 00:39:01,460 and I was like to 706 00:39:04,220 --> 00:39:08,220 I said we needed to get this on part of the đã done 707 00:39:09,220 --> 00:39:10,220 because I feel like I just made a whole bunch of somebody's story. 708 00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:34,220 Very good, until you make a mistake in this ethical game. 709 00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:36,220 Look at that. 710 00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:38,220 Imunal da Justiça... 711 00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:39,220 Mobile. 712 00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:40,220 Mobile. 713 00:39:43,220 --> 00:39:47,220 You get the paint, you put it there, you throw it, and you take it straight to the chair. 714 00:39:48,220 --> 00:39:49,220 The thing is... 715 00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:51,220 Mobility. 716 00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:53,220 Because the law in Brazil works. 717 00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:58,220 Look, take the car there. 718 00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:01,220 For me to put the machine there, bro. 719 00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:03,220 No. 720 00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:05,220 Because the battery ran out. 721 00:40:05,220 --> 00:40:07,220 This machine sucks. 722 00:40:24,220 --> 00:40:28,220 So, I started grafting because I liked grafting. 723 00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:30,220 And I continue because I like it. 724 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:34,220 It was never something that I had in my head. 725 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:37,220 I thought, this is going to be my profession. 726 00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:39,220 You know? 727 00:40:39,220 --> 00:40:45,220 But it was something that I believed that could make me happy while I was doing it. 728 00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:47,220 Like my mom. 729 00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:51,220 She always said, I want you to be a doctor. 730 00:40:51,220 --> 00:40:53,220 I want you to be a lawyer. 731 00:40:54,220 --> 00:41:00,220 Develop a job that doesn't run away from the standard. 732 00:41:00,220 --> 00:41:02,220 Over time, she... 733 00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:04,220 I don't know if I made her understand that. 734 00:41:04,220 --> 00:41:08,220 But I think that today she understands it a little more. 735 00:41:09,220 --> 00:41:15,220 That you can have a job that's almost self-sufficient. 736 00:41:15,220 --> 00:41:18,220 And you don't have to work in a company. 737 00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:20,220 Or in a company. 738 00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:25,220 Or be a guy who pays the bills every day. 739 00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:26,220 You know? 740 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:29,220 To feel fulfilled. 741 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:31,220 To be happy. 742 00:41:31,220 --> 00:41:32,220 And today... 743 00:41:32,220 --> 00:41:33,220 So... 744 00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:36,220 I live almost exclusively from this. 745 00:41:36,220 --> 00:41:40,220 From selling the paintings that I make. 746 00:41:40,220 --> 00:41:44,220 But when I don't feel happy anymore with this, I go to another. 747 00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:47,220 I keep doing this and... 748 00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:50,220 And I'm going to sell pizza. 749 00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:51,220 I don't know. 750 00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:55,220 It's not what I want to do. 751 00:41:55,220 --> 00:41:56,220 So... 752 00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:57,220 Same thing. 753 00:41:57,220 --> 00:41:58,220 I just... 754 00:41:58,220 --> 00:41:59,220 I give up. 755 00:41:59,220 --> 00:42:00,220 And I know she does. 756 00:42:00,220 --> 00:42:02,220 And I think this is what makes me more happy. 757 00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:04,220 Because of people like you. 758 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:08,220 The darkness... 759 00:42:09,220 --> 00:42:10,220 The darkness is... 760 00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:12,220 It's inside you. 761 00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:18,220 Folks! 762 00:42:18,220 --> 00:42:19,220 Oh, girl... 763 00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:22,220 I don't know what to say at this moment. 764 00:42:22,220 --> 00:42:26,220 Is it too much? Is it too much color? 765 00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:28,220 Just that? 766 00:42:28,220 --> 00:42:32,220 Man, in the small cans that they're using to contour, you can only see this beak. 767 00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:34,220 He doesn't think. 768 00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:38,220 He takes one can, then he goes up in the cart, then it's over. 769 00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:42,220 Then he goes down and takes another one. Why doesn't he take them all at once? 770 00:42:42,220 --> 00:42:46,220 Oh, he's becoming an adventurer, huh? 771 00:42:46,220 --> 00:42:48,220 The other day, I don't know what happened. 772 00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:51,220 Oh, he's becoming an adventurer, huh? 773 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:55,220 The other day, I didn't even go up to the bench to pick up the candy in the closet. 774 00:42:55,220 --> 00:42:58,220 Now I have to hang myself in the machine. 775 00:42:58,220 --> 00:43:00,220 I have to do it on the stairs, right? 776 00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:04,220 Yeah, but you can't go down here, right? Not even if I were the size of Kiko. 777 00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:07,220 Son of a bitch, I'm going to fall because of you. 778 00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:14,220 Turn this off, Figo. 779 00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:17,220 Leave the yellow sign, right? To decrease, right? 780 00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:18,220 Give me the roll. 781 00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:22,220 It's very strong. All your drawings look like letters. 782 00:43:22,220 --> 00:43:24,220 Look at the beak of this little bird. 783 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:26,220 Look, look. 784 00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:27,220 Look. 785 00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:29,220 Let's do one over there? 786 00:43:33,220 --> 00:43:35,220 It's painting, man. You can't. 787 00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:39,220 Who? 788 00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:45,220 You'll know. 789 00:43:45,220 --> 00:43:47,220 I'm there, man, several times. 790 00:43:47,220 --> 00:43:49,220 Oh, there it is. 791 00:43:49,220 --> 00:43:50,220 It's true. 792 00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:51,220 Let's do it. 793 00:43:55,220 --> 00:43:56,220 Let's do it. 794 00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:57,220 Let's do it. 795 00:44:02,220 --> 00:44:03,220 I'll be right back. 796 00:44:03,220 --> 00:44:04,220 You're not going, are you? 797 00:44:04,220 --> 00:44:05,220 No, I'll stay here. 798 00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:08,220 Then get that beak over there. 799 00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:10,220 Do you want me to come over there? 800 00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:11,220 No, no, no. 801 00:44:11,220 --> 00:44:12,220 Here, look. 802 00:44:13,220 --> 00:44:14,220 Did you get it? 803 00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:15,220 No. 804 00:44:15,220 --> 00:44:16,220 Go fuck yourself. Go, go, go. 805 00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:19,220 No, it's bad, man. 806 00:44:19,220 --> 00:44:20,220 This one is good. 807 00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:22,220 So let's use the other one. 808 00:44:22,220 --> 00:44:23,220 Okay. 809 00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:26,220 Where is it? Down here? 810 00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:28,220 Here, on the side. It's a cool place. 811 00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:29,220 But does it stay? 812 00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:32,220 We've painted it 600 times here on the wall. 813 00:44:32,220 --> 00:44:33,220 One more. 814 00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:34,220 One more, one less. 815 00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:39,220 Where is yours going? 816 00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:44,220 Here? 817 00:44:45,220 --> 00:44:46,220 How far? 818 00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:47,220 Here. 819 00:44:47,220 --> 00:44:48,220 Wow, what a son of a bitch. 820 00:44:48,220 --> 00:44:49,220 Look at this. 821 00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:50,220 Look at this fluorescent. 822 00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:52,220 Look at the color he's painting. 823 00:44:56,220 --> 00:45:02,220 When you do a throw-up, it's like when you press the fucking key, you know? 824 00:45:04,220 --> 00:45:08,220 Just like when you're with your friends, one supports the other, you know? 825 00:45:08,220 --> 00:45:12,220 Like, okay, people don't like it, but fuck it. 826 00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:15,220 I'm here with my friends and we like to do it. 827 00:45:15,220 --> 00:45:16,220 And that's it, Leo. 828 00:45:16,220 --> 00:45:17,220 And we do it. 829 00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:20,220 When you go out just to do this, your vibe is different, you know? 830 00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:22,220 You don't care what's going to happen. 831 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:23,220 You just want to do it. 832 00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,220 You put half, like, the beginning and half the end, you know? 833 00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:27,220 You just want to finish what you started. 834 00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:30,220 Throw-up, for those who don't like it, is ugly. 835 00:45:30,220 --> 00:45:32,220 It's what I like the most. 836 00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:38,220 The moment you're there painting, you're painting. 837 00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:40,220 You're not thinking about anything. 838 00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:42,220 It's really not thinking about anything, you know? 839 00:45:42,220 --> 00:45:43,220 It's a moment of therapy. 840 00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:44,220 Mine. 841 00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:47,220 But this is very particular. 842 00:45:47,220 --> 00:45:49,220 For us, it works like this. 843 00:45:49,220 --> 00:45:52,220 I can be going down the hill painting, I don't know, anything. 844 00:45:52,220 --> 00:45:55,220 The ink came out of the spray, went into the wall and it's over. 845 00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:57,220 Automatically, you know? 846 00:45:57,220 --> 00:45:59,220 I'm doing black here, look. 847 00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:06,220 The coolest thing about graffiti is that it takes you from hatred to love very quickly. 848 00:46:06,220 --> 00:46:09,220 You start painting, calm, you know? 849 00:46:09,220 --> 00:46:11,220 Then you're with hatred and you start painting quickly. 850 00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:13,220 Then it's cool, the thing relaxed you, you paint slowly. 851 00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:14,220 Like, there's nothing like that. 852 00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:16,220 Like, there's nothing like graffiti for those who like graffiti. 853 00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:17,220 Only sex. 854 00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:20,220 The only thing is that it's very much the same, you know? 855 00:46:20,220 --> 00:46:23,220 Imagine you have 10 minutes of orgasm. 856 00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:24,220 It's the same. 857 00:46:24,220 --> 00:46:26,220 It's the same feeling. 858 00:46:26,220 --> 00:46:30,220 You're painting a 700 square meter panel. 859 00:46:30,220 --> 00:46:36,220 But every three hours I see everyone here wanting to go out to do a ride under the bridge. 860 00:46:36,220 --> 00:46:38,220 Explain that. 861 00:46:38,220 --> 00:46:40,220 Doesn't this satisfy you? 862 00:46:42,220 --> 00:46:43,220 I don't think so, right? 863 00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:45,220 I don't think so. 864 00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:51,220 You always have this desire to get to a different place, a new place, you know? 865 00:46:51,220 --> 00:46:54,220 To really mark it, you know? 866 00:46:54,220 --> 00:46:56,220 These are totally different things. 867 00:46:56,220 --> 00:47:00,220 This here is a wall sponsored. 868 00:47:00,220 --> 00:47:02,220 That everyone is making money. 869 00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:06,220 That you have time to think. 870 00:47:06,220 --> 00:47:11,220 Go, scratch, go back, look and come back, paint again, you know? 871 00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:12,220 I think if you take some cans and go out on the street, you know? 872 00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:16,220 Scratch or do whatever comes to mind, it's something else, right? 873 00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:19,220 It's another dynamic, it's another thing. 874 00:47:19,220 --> 00:47:20,220 This is it. 875 00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:21,220 This is authorized. 876 00:47:21,220 --> 00:47:22,220 That's not it. 877 00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:23,220 But to what extent is it not? 878 00:47:23,220 --> 00:47:24,220 You know? 879 00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:25,220 For us it is. 880 00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:26,220 Because we are part of the city. 881 00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:27,220 And graffiti has that. 882 00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:28,220 You know? 883 00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:29,220 The fact that you can do it. 884 00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:30,220 You can do it. 885 00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:31,220 You can do it. 886 00:47:31,220 --> 00:47:32,220 You can do it. 887 00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:33,220 You can do it. 888 00:47:33,220 --> 00:47:34,220 You can do it. 889 00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:35,220 You can do it. 890 00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:36,220 You can do it. 891 00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:37,220 You can do it. 892 00:47:37,220 --> 00:47:38,220 You can do it. 893 00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:39,220 You can do it. 894 00:47:39,220 --> 00:47:40,220 You can do it. 895 00:47:40,220 --> 00:47:41,220 You can do it. 896 00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:44,220 The fact that you wrote your name is my name. 897 00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:45,220 It messes with someone's ego. 898 00:47:45,220 --> 00:47:46,220 You wrote twins, that's it. 899 00:47:46,220 --> 00:47:47,220 We wrote. 900 00:47:47,220 --> 00:47:48,220 That is our name. 901 00:47:48,220 --> 00:47:49,220 You will go through worth twins. 902 00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:50,220 Another one. 903 00:47:53,220 --> 00:47:59,220 You wrote your name and you made a drawing that people recognize as your work. 904 00:47:59,220 --> 00:48:00,220 What is the difference? 905 00:48:00,220 --> 00:48:02,220 The two are meeting in a space that does not belong to you. 906 00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:04,220 If the space is not yours, it's self-promotion. 907 00:48:04,220 --> 00:48:05,220 The two are self-promotion. 908 00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:07,220 It only changes the technique. 909 00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:11,220 I think that every time a guy comes in a line, 910 00:48:11,220 --> 00:48:13,220 When you go out to paint a wall of a person, 911 00:48:13,220 --> 00:48:19,220 he says, first of all, never to a private space. 912 00:48:20,220 --> 00:48:22,220 He breaks a rule there. 913 00:48:25,220 --> 00:48:29,220 I don't think São Paulo deserves what graffiti has of better. 914 00:48:29,220 --> 00:48:31,220 You have to do it and fuck it. 915 00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:34,220 It's a total metropolis. 916 00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:36,220 I think every metropolis is big like this. 917 00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:43,220 São Paulo doesn't deserve what people do. 918 00:48:43,220 --> 00:48:45,220 It's very beautiful for São Paulo. 919 00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:49,220 The city doesn't offer you this quality. 920 00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:53,220 They offer you a great deal and the city is a waste. 921 00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:55,220 They delete it. 922 00:48:55,220 --> 00:49:00,220 Then they just redo it because the media emphasized it because it was deleted. 923 00:49:00,220 --> 00:49:02,220 Nobody gives value for giving value. 924 00:49:02,220 --> 00:49:05,220 They only give value if there's a problem behind it. 925 00:49:06,220 --> 00:49:08,220 If you wanna go out and paint, go ahead. 926 00:49:22,220 --> 00:49:24,220 Good. 927 00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:28,220 I need to update this part. 928 00:49:29,220 --> 00:49:30,220 The one there doesn't. 929 00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:31,220 This goes there. 930 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,220 I don't like it. 931 00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:35,220 They left 2 Couetes in there. 932 00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:36,220 Do you know where it is? 933 00:49:36,220 --> 00:49:38,220 He's a cute little boy. 934 00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:40,220 Yeah, he's cute. He's cool, man. 935 00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:42,220 I'm not going to change his name. 936 00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:44,220 That one up there and this one here. 937 00:49:55,220 --> 00:49:58,220 I'm going to erase his name. 938 00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:01,220 You don't need to change his name. 939 00:50:01,220 --> 00:50:03,220 It's beautiful. 940 00:50:03,220 --> 00:50:06,220 If I were a pincher, and I only used my name, 941 00:50:06,220 --> 00:50:08,220 I'd already take care of this doll. 942 00:50:08,220 --> 00:50:10,220 I'd start putting my name from here to there. 943 00:50:10,220 --> 00:50:12,220 If you were a pincher, you'd say you made the doll. 944 00:50:12,220 --> 00:50:13,220 Of course. 945 00:50:13,220 --> 00:50:16,220 In my opinion, a person is a culture. 946 00:50:16,220 --> 00:50:19,220 If I were a pincher, I'd already make a doll. 947 00:50:19,220 --> 00:50:23,220 Like, since it's a female sex, I'd already make a male. 948 00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:25,220 I'd ask for a spray, too. 949 00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:27,220 A mind, right? 950 00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:32,220 I think his name should only be used on the bottom. 951 00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:33,220 Yeah. 952 00:50:33,220 --> 00:50:35,220 As if they were... 953 00:50:35,220 --> 00:50:37,220 Even if they got a rebuff with his name there, 954 00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:39,220 the phone number, 955 00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:40,220 if a store, a company, 956 00:50:40,220 --> 00:50:42,220 needed something from their drawing 957 00:50:42,220 --> 00:50:46,220 to make an image to highlight the company's advertising, 958 00:50:46,220 --> 00:50:47,220 their store, 959 00:50:47,220 --> 00:50:49,220 they'd make a profit with that. 960 00:50:49,220 --> 00:50:52,220 Not by putting their name as a pincher, 961 00:50:52,220 --> 00:50:53,220 because that's what the guys hold. 962 00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:55,220 Because one time you saw that I already painted the foot. 963 00:50:55,220 --> 00:50:56,220 Pincher is everything. 964 00:50:56,220 --> 00:50:58,220 I'm not kidding. 965 00:50:58,220 --> 00:51:00,220 Pay everything so you don't miss your trip. 966 00:51:01,220 --> 00:51:04,220 Have you ever taken a spray can? 967 00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:06,220 Yeah, I've already done it when I was a kid. 968 00:51:06,220 --> 00:51:09,220 I went up to buildings to pin, I'd pin like this. 969 00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:12,220 How many times have the police caught me with a can of spray, 970 00:51:12,220 --> 00:51:14,220 painted my hair, painted my whole body, 971 00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:16,220 played with us, everything? 972 00:51:16,220 --> 00:51:18,220 Every plane that catches a pincher does that. 973 00:51:18,220 --> 00:51:20,220 Paints them all. 974 00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:22,220 I've heard of these twins. 975 00:51:22,220 --> 00:51:23,220 They're from Lapa. 976 00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:25,220 But I don't have any contact with them. 977 00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:28,220 Because in the past, twins were the name of a team. 978 00:51:28,220 --> 00:51:29,220 They're not twins. 979 00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:30,220 The guys are twins. 980 00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:31,220 They're the name of a team. 981 00:51:31,220 --> 00:51:33,220 So, from there on, the guys got bigger. 982 00:51:33,220 --> 00:51:35,220 And then other people come in and say, 983 00:51:35,220 --> 00:51:37,220 here, pay the pincher. 984 00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:42,220 My goal is to pay the pincher today. 985 00:51:42,220 --> 00:51:45,220 Back then, I was a kid, I wasn't even interested in anything. 986 00:51:45,220 --> 00:51:48,220 I'd pin them all, and I'd have fun with anything. 987 00:51:49,220 --> 00:51:51,220 We have two hands. 988 00:51:51,220 --> 00:51:54,220 Two to three hands to get rid of this business. 989 00:51:56,220 --> 00:51:58,220 I don't know if they're being very naughty 990 00:51:58,220 --> 00:52:00,220 or very naive, really. 991 00:52:00,220 --> 00:52:03,220 How are you going to stop, I don't know, 992 00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:05,220 how many millions of kids 993 00:52:05,220 --> 00:52:08,220 from not pinning somewhere? 994 00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:11,220 If you put together how many graffiti artists 995 00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:14,220 and pinners there are in São Paulo, 996 00:52:14,220 --> 00:52:16,220 I don't know, millions I wouldn't say, 997 00:52:16,220 --> 00:52:18,220 but a few thousands. 998 00:52:28,220 --> 00:52:30,220 Do you know you can get rid of it? 999 00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:42,220 So much heart, though it's gonna be a blast, 1000 00:52:42,220 --> 00:52:44,220 and everything's going to explode, 1001 00:52:44,220 --> 00:52:46,220 and it's going to have to be just a little shaken up 1002 00:52:46,220 --> 00:52:47,220 to finish the show, 1003 00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:49,220 and what's gonna happen with Sandıco Divorce, 1004 00:52:49,220 --> 00:52:51,220 it's going to come out in the next couple of weeks, 1005 00:52:51,220 --> 00:52:53,220 and nobody's going to straightforward. 1006 00:52:53,220 --> 00:52:55,220 But they think we'll be able to reach it 1007 00:52:55,220 --> 00:52:56,220 after 3 or 4 months. 1008 00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:57,220 We're not going to break it. 1009 00:52:57,220 --> 00:52:59,220 A film by 1010 00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:01,220 A film by 1011 00:53:01,220 --> 00:53:03,220 A film by 1012 00:53:03,220 --> 00:53:05,220 A film by 1013 00:53:05,220 --> 00:53:07,220 A film by 1014 00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:09,220 A film by 1015 00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:11,220 A film by 1016 00:53:11,220 --> 00:53:13,220 A film by 1017 00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:19,220 A film by 1018 00:53:19,220 --> 00:53:21,220 A film by 1019 00:53:21,220 --> 00:53:23,220 A film by 1020 00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:25,220 A film by 1021 00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:27,220 A film by 1022 00:53:27,220 --> 00:53:29,220 A film by 1023 00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:31,220 A film by 1024 00:53:31,220 --> 00:53:33,220 A film by 1025 00:53:33,220 --> 00:53:35,220 A film by 1026 00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:37,220 A film by 1027 00:53:37,220 --> 00:53:39,220 A film by 1028 00:53:39,220 --> 00:53:41,220 A film by 1029 00:53:41,220 --> 00:53:43,220 A film by 1030 00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:45,220 A film by 1031 00:53:45,220 --> 00:53:47,220 A film by 1032 00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:49,220 A film by 1033 00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:51,220 A film by 1034 00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:53,220 A film by 1035 00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:55,220 A film by 1036 00:53:55,220 --> 00:54:05,220 I can't believe it, I can't believe it, I can't believe it, I can't believe it, I can't believe it, I can't believe it, I can't believe it. 1037 00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:29,220 I can't believe it, I can't believe it. 1038 00:54:55,220 --> 00:55:19,500 The 1039 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:21,500 They were at the bank and they said, 1040 00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:23,500 Mom, we're going to resign from work, because we're going to live in the desert. 1041 00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:24,500 I'm almost crazy. 1042 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:25,000 I'm almost crazy. 1043 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:25,200 I'm almost crazy. 1044 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:25,980 I'm almost crazy. 1045 00:55:25,980 --> 00:55:27,200 Because everything was their fault. 1046 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,200 Everything they thought was cool. 1047 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,200 It's a symbiosis, man. 1048 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,200 It's a symbiosis, man. 1049 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,200 It's a symbiosis, man. 1050 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,200 Very crazy the work of the guys. 1051 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,200 Like, I don't know, Gustavo started a drawing, he stopped, he was going to do something else. 1052 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,620 Gustavo started a drawing, he stopped, he was going to do something else. 1053 00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:42,620 Otavio would come back and continue with that drawing. 1054 00:55:42,620 --> 00:55:44,620 Like it was Gustavo over there. 1055 00:55:44,620 --> 00:55:46,620 Like it was Gustavo over there. 1056 00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:48,620 Gustavo. 1057 00:55:48,620 --> 00:55:50,620 He had started... 1058 00:55:50,620 --> 00:55:52,620 Gustavo. 1059 00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:10,200 They never communicated verbally, they always communicated through telepathy, they didn't know how to talk, they didn't understand each other. 1060 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:16,200 It's pretty cool, this car is cool. 1061 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,200 It's beautiful, isn't it? 1062 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:30,200 They are two, but there is an entity. Now, of course, the entity, the twins, it seems that you are talking to a person who only discusses their own ideas. 1063 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:36,200 Because they discuss among themselves, but in fact they are discussing the ideas of the twins. 1064 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,200 Where did you come from with this? 1065 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,200 People who have never seen me speak in Brazil. 1066 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,200 Where? Is there graffiti in Brazil? 1067 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,200 How is there graffiti in Brazil? 1068 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,200 Where is São Paulo? 1069 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,200 In Argentina. 1070 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,200 São Paulo in Argentina, you know? 1071 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,200 It's very long, these questions. 1072 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,200 Buenos Aires. 1073 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:56,200 It's very ridiculous, but it was cool because we gave the opportunity for people to know what was happening down there. 1074 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:11,200 People thought they were marginal, because graffiti has always been faced as a marginal thing, you know? 1075 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,200 From marginal people. 1076 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,200 So they were never seen as artists and it took a long time. 1077 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,200 The artistic concept came from when they started to go abroad. 1078 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:37,200 This comes from André Matarazzo, from the mayor, from Cidade Livre, from São Paulo. 1079 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,200 They want it to go straight. 1080 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,200 This is a complicated thing to come here. 1081 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,200 As I said, we are the twins, right? 1082 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,200 But we have to keep going. 1083 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,200 It's hard, isn't it? 1084 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,200 It's hard, isn't it? 1085 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,200 It is. 1086 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,200 It's really difficult to come here. 1087 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,200 We need our own money. 1088 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,200 There isn't a page to draw it. 1089 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,200 That is only a restore that is said to be used but is the only thing. 1090 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,200 If thisæ 1091 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,200 Are you in agreement with, by 100%, thestar's criteria? 1092 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,200 The work in the prefecture works, and I think it's cool. 1093 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,200 I like their workplace. 1094 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,200 I agree with the prefecture, 100% of theestro work. 1095 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,200 The agreement would be like that, 89,99. 1096 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,200 What does that say aboutnorm? 1097 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:33,200 Here you can see the case of this wall, of erasing a work that the people of Germany, when they knew, were horrified to see that such a thing had been erased. 1098 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:48,200 So here it is still difficult for the people who face this as art, because they come to see, but it is complicated to know if there are no drugged people in the middle, if they don't get inspired by the smell of something there. 1099 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:55,200 They say, but they don't do anything, they don't drink, they don't smoke, nothing. 1100 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:02,200 And they always say, my drug is to draw, just smell the ink all the time. 1101 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:20,200 The thing about international recognition, generating a validation of Brazil, happens in everything, right? It is not a phenomenon circumscribed to contemporary art. 1102 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:29,200 It took a long time, since we started to like graffiti, almost 20 years for us to be able to go out and meet other graffiti artists, another culture. 1103 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,200 And we, in this period that we stayed there like this, we had to... 1104 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,200 Sometimes with little information, we ended up creating another language of painting. 1105 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,200 And when we came here, we brought that. 1106 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:53,200 I think it happens in all cultural spheres, by a colonial habit, by a colonial mentality, to consume foreign culture. 1107 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:59,200 And then the foreign culture ends up bringing back Brazilian culture. 1108 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,200 I think it's a lack of trust in the taco itself. 1109 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:11,200 To say like, this is good, it doesn't need, you know, an outside caress. 1110 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,200 And you see that I only paint with the order of the resident. 1111 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,200 I have the order of the city hall, do you think it's beautiful? 1112 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,200 So, I'm going to stop at this wall here in front, I'm going to ask if the guy authorizes. 1113 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,200 If he authorizes, I'm going to cover it. 1114 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,200 Do you belong here? 1115 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,200 If you need an authorization to paint that wall, you need to talk to the person in charge, if it's yours. 1116 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,200 For you, the city hall? 1117 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,200 Yes, it's free of charge, it's from the city hall. 1118 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,200 It's that color there, that gray color. It's going to be much more beautiful, you can be sure. 1119 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,200 I'm just not going to be able to authorize, man, because it's not part of us. 1120 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,200 Where is the entrance? 1121 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,200 This building here. 1122 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,200 Good morning. 1123 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,200 Good morning, we are from the city hall, we have to talk to the person in charge. 1124 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,200 And this wall of the block is yours, right? 1125 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,200 Block? 1126 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,200 No? 1127 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,200 Can I paint it? 1128 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,200 Thank you. 1129 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:13,200 Every day I pass by, this one I think it's beautiful, but then it was being erased, I think it's a shame. 1130 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:20,200 But I think the big discussion is this, is to raise what is art, what is not. 1131 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,200 This is an important discussion today. 1132 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,200 Okay. 1133 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,200 The people are like that, it's a matter of liking it, right? 1134 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,200 It's a matter of liking it. 1135 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,200 She always says that, she always thinks it's a shame. 1136 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,200 She doesn't like that. 1137 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,200 It's not her opinion, she doesn't like it either. 1138 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,200 She thinks it's a shame. 1139 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,200 Did she say that? 1140 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,200 Yes. 1141 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,200 She said it's a shame, didn't she? 1142 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,200 Exactly. 1143 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,200 Was that it or not? 1144 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,200 No, she liked the drawing, right? 1145 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,200 But it's a matter of... 1146 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,200 It was authorized. 1147 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:04,200 What's happening now is this, there will be institutional graffiti, which is where the city council leaves it, 1148 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,200 and there will continue to be anti-institutional graffiti, which always... 1149 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,200 These guys started like this, really, right? 1150 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,200 Doing... 1151 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,200 Because you couldn't even graffiti. 1152 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,200 Originally, it was for you... 1153 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,200 You can't intervene in anything in the city. 1154 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:25,200 The city council is now admitting that there can be interventions and is studying to allow in certain places. 1155 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,200 All right, is this official? 1156 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,200 Yes, we will have the official graffiti artists. 1157 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,200 But look, street art was born as transgression. 1158 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:39,200 So, whoever really wants to do graffiti and pichação will continue to do it. 1159 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,200 We were up there, Gustavo came and said like this, 1160 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,200 Urru has hair? 1161 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,200 Hair? 1162 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,200 What does he want to do with it? 1163 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,200 Look, he's drawing a little donkey there. 1164 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,200 At the time he was doing it, he asked me. 1165 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,200 Look for it, bro. 1166 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,200 And what did you answer? 1167 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,200 I said, look, is it a donkey? There is. 1168 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,200 I think he asked the right person. 1169 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:19,200 Look, I still want to look like just a donkey. 1170 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,200 Next story here. 1171 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,200 Yes, I left to the PVT and it is already looking, right? 1172 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,200 No, not now. 1173 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,200 I mean, if it filmed it, they would call it called a ur nutri. 1174 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,200 samo 1175 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,900 Ana 1176 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,200 Boa tarde. 1177 01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:42,200 See you, guys. 1178 01:03:42,200 --> 01:04:07,240 It would be nice if he took some pictures in front of the politician there, a lot of people 1179 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:18,440 would pass by and ask me, is that Kassab? Is that the mayor? Like, no, it's not, let's see, right? 1180 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,440 You have clear eyes as a mayor. 1181 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,440 That was unintentionally, right? It appeared unintentionally. 1182 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,440 They are worrying about something they shouldn't, right? 1183 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,440 That it's not a problem for the city, but a solution. 1184 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:44,440 And it's sad that it's not just this job, there are thousands of other jobs, of other artists who suffer with it too. 1185 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,440 It's not just us, it's not just our group, it's all over São Paulo. 1186 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:55,440 The guy who comes from the outskirts to be able to do a job here in the city or, I don't know, from the countryside, suffers with it. 1187 01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:00,440 The guy gathers his money, buys his ink and does a nice job in a place, 1188 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,440 suddenly the guy doesn't even have time to take a picture. 1189 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,440 It's kind of like, it's his dream. 1190 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,440 That's why, man, you have to fight hard not to lose it, you can't lose it. 1191 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,440 It's the main characteristic of São Paulo, you know? 1192 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,440 To have graffiti on the street. 1193 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,440 For the people to like graffiti. 1194 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,440 If you stop painting, you know? 1195 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,440 Like, if, ah, it's fading, let's stop and let's paint only where it doesn't fade, 1196 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,440 shit, like, we're going to lose it, you know? 1197 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:32,440 You have to fight, like, paint everywhere so you don't lose this, this is what São Paulo is, you know? 1198 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,440 Paint everywhere. 1199 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,440 Do the things you like, then let's let it go. 1200 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,440 Paint wherever you want, because I can put out my mind. 1201 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,440 And we don't know, actually, it is important, 1202 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,440 but I think there is a possibility skip it. 1203 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,440 It's not like, let's just to take the bus. 1204 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,440 Do you think you can see the last years of RosaLanxa? 1205 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,440 You're not allowed to summarize what Kinders is about. 1206 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,440 Look Worldwide. 1207 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,440 Our country and society. 1208 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,440 związода.com 1209 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,440 Subtitled by Fer Butano 1210 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,440 Daniel Benjamin 1211 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,440 Daniel Benjamin 1212 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:28,440 I think the mayor has to come here to inaugurate the wall, we are in his city, in a way, he takes care of it here. 1213 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:35,440 Before he became mayor, the wall was already there, then it was authorized and sponsored too. 1214 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:46,440 That's it, we do our part, not only here, but in the whole city too. 1215 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:22,440 We wait for it to be done now, right? If that's not enough, we believe it will be. 1216 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:27,440 Because we felt it, you know? The experience we had with the city hall, 1217 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:33,440 I think if he has the criteria to be able to see a façade in 1920, 1218 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,440 that he took an outdoor from the front, I think this can also be seen. 1219 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,440 I mean, I think this is even more explicit than a façade, I don't know. 1220 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:47,440 Castello is not Scotland, he recognizes our work, why wouldn't he recognize it here? 1221 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,440 I think this was an alert, it was a start, you know? 1222 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,440 Hey, wait a minute, let me see this here, you know? 1223 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,440 Where did you fall? 1224 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,440 I don't know. 1225 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,440 You fell and ran away? 1226 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:07,440 Yeah. 1227 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,440 Okay. 1228 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,440 The city hall authorized it, right? 1229 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,440 And this wall is going to be demolished. 1230 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:23,440 So he told me when he was injecting that now that I painted the wall, 1231 01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:27,440 now I'm going to be famous, because it's like this, 1232 01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:31,440 I painted with the top of the graffiti. 1233 01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:36,440 I think the mayor will come there to see what we painted. 1234 01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:40,440 In fact, he's going to apologize publicly now. 1235 01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:44,440 He's going to apologize in front of everyone. 1236 01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:47,440 Cool, right? It's a noble attitude. 1237 01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:50,440 It's the minimum. 1238 01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:51,440 Minimum. 1239 01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:55,440 Has the mayor arrived yet? 1240 01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:56,440 He has arrived. 1241 01:08:56,440 --> 01:08:57,440 You can look at the encuentraar's for the floor. 1242 01:09:04,440 --> 01:09:06,440 I don't know where... 1243 01:09:06,440 --> 01:09:09,440 I don't know the direction, but I think it... 1244 01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:11,440 No, that's putting hè out of there. 1245 01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:14,440 Just where is the building coming from? 1246 01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:17,440 Dona Maria Mariana da Unica. 1247 01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:21,440 Good afternoon. 1248 01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:22,440 It's the mayor. 1249 01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:23,440 Thank you. 1250 01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:24,440 How are you? 1251 01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:25,440 I'm good. 1252 01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,440 The city will be clean and beautiful. 1253 01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:29,440 Clean and beautiful. 1254 01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:31,440 And more graffitized. 1255 01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:33,440 Exactly. 1256 01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:35,440 Graffitized, yes. 1257 01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:37,440 It would be nice to bring it back. 1258 01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:57,440 It's a blessing. 1259 01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,440 It's a blessing. 1260 01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:01,440 I want to see the reaction of the people. 1261 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:03,440 Exactly. 1262 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,440 Come down here for me. 1263 01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:11,440 Just for the press to understand, 1264 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:13,440 this is a symbolic act 1265 01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:15,440 that we wanted to do here. 1266 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:17,440 So, with the presence of the press, 1267 01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:19,440 the commercial association, 1268 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:21,440 the mayor, Don Fernando, 1269 01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:23,440 we called the population to not disturb. 1270 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:25,440 It's dangerous, there could be an accident. 1271 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:27,440 And then the media will repercute 1272 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,440 to let us know that it was the delivery 1273 01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:31,440 of this symbol. 1274 01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:35,440 But we want to ask for the blessing 1275 01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:37,440 for all those who worked here, 1276 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:39,440 those who are here. 1277 01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:41,440 We know that art 1278 01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:43,440 always understands harmony, 1279 01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:45,440 integrity 1280 01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,440 and unity. 1281 01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:49,440 In such a way, 1282 01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:51,440 if we take something away 1283 01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:53,440 or put something away, 1284 01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:55,440 it's not possible. 1285 01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,440 It's a work of art. 1286 01:10:57,440 --> 01:10:59,440 A work of art 1287 01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,440 in an important place. 1288 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,440 A work that, 1289 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:05,440 with a mistake, 1290 01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:07,440 had been 1291 01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:09,440 erased a few months ago. 1292 01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,440 But the association understood 1293 01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:13,440 the importance of the work of art 1294 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:15,440 of the graffiti artists in São Paulo 1295 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:17,440 and takes this important step 1296 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,440 in this recognition and this gift to São Paulo. 1297 01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:21,440 It's a big city. 1298 01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:23,440 It's a city that needs to live with culture, 1299 01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:25,440 with art, generate jobs. 1300 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,440 I hope not. 1301 01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:29,440 I hope not. 1302 01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:31,440 It's obvious that after 1303 01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:33,440 a whole media issue, 1304 01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,440 the mayor went there, 1305 01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:37,440 went back, recognized 1306 01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:39,440 that it was a mistake and said 1307 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:41,440 let's do it again. 1308 01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:43,440 But what about the other graffiti artists? 1309 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,440 And all the history that has been erased? 1310 01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:47,440 The graffiti artists themselves 1311 01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:49,440 who are here, behind you, 1312 01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:51,440 they know that this action 1313 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,440 is not normal in São Paulo. 1314 01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:55,440 On the contrary, 1315 01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,440 the city has been very respected 1316 01:11:57,440 --> 01:11:59,440 and admired by the city of São Paulo. 1317 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:01,440 And especially by our management, 1318 01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:03,440 which will continue to do so. 1319 01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:05,440 Perfect. 1320 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:07,440 You mentioned that it was a mistake 1321 01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:09,440 that this panel had been erased. 1322 01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:11,440 Isn't it curious a mistake of 700 square meters, 1323 01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:13,440 the size of this panel, 1324 01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:15,440 to have been erased? 1325 01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:17,440 The actions are in progress. 1326 01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:19,440 They are being coordinated 1327 01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,440 by the secretary of the city council 1328 01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,440 and have the information available to you. 1329 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,440 They travel all the time. 1330 01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:29,440 They don't have an agenda. 1331 01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:31,440 They travel to a meeting 1332 01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,440 with the graffiti artists. 1333 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:35,440 They don't have an agenda. 1334 01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:37,440 I talked to them. 1335 01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:39,440 In the house of Milu Vilela, 1336 01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:41,440 one of the walls, 1337 01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:43,440 you can see it. 1338 01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:45,440 I think that work here 1339 01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:47,440 on colorful letters, 1340 01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,440 on graffiti, 1341 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:51,440 it can't be erased. 1342 01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:53,440 Our work, like this one, 1343 01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:55,440 is outrageous. 1344 01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,440 They only have money 1345 01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,920 and clothes and lots of 1346 01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:01,360 maned hasta vous 1347 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,360 That I don't know. 1348 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,560 Anything like this. 1349 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,560 That I don't know. 1350 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:07,420 Ə 1351 01:13:17,420 --> 01:13:19,480 Coloquei a melhora 1352 01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:21,480 As criança zas mandei chamar 1353 01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:23,440 Tudo de banho tomar 1354 01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:25,940 From the braided that is to please 1355 01:13:25,940 --> 01:13:27,940 Your doctor authority 1356 01:13:27,940 --> 01:13:30,440 And the priest to bless 1357 01:13:30,440 --> 01:13:32,440 Today let's eat gray 1358 01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:36,440 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1359 01:13:36,940 --> 01:13:41,440 Hit this Instagram flag to report 1360 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:43,440 I lick the tag on the test 1361 01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:45,940 And hashtag to follow 1362 01:13:45,940 --> 01:13:47,940 A bomb and a trawap 1363 01:13:47,940 --> 01:13:50,440 From the bridge from there to here 1364 01:13:50,440 --> 01:13:52,440 Lick against this gray 1365 01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:56,440 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1366 01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:12,440 Not even the minister or the president 1367 01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:14,440 Will agree with the scene 1368 01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:16,440 It's enough to be ashamed 1369 01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:18,440 And talk about tearing up 1370 01:14:18,440 --> 01:14:20,440 I put the best 1371 01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:22,440 In the clothes and the children 1372 01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:23,440 I sent to call 1373 01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:25,440 Don't let me eat gray 1374 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:29,440 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1375 01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:38,440 When Cosme and Damião 1376 01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:41,440 For the one was to ask 1377 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:43,440 When one of two brothers 1378 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:45,440 Of all was to question 1379 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:47,440 Took was back in the can 1380 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:49,440 And the can will revive 1381 01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,440 Today let's not eat gray 1382 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:55,440 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1383 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:22,440 Hit this Instagram flag to report 1384 01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:24,440 I lick the tag on the test 1385 01:15:24,440 --> 01:15:26,440 And the priest to bless 1386 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:28,440 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1387 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:30,440 Hit this Instagram flag to follow 1388 01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:32,440 A bomb and a trawap 1389 01:15:32,440 --> 01:15:34,440 From the bridge from there to here 1390 01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:36,440 Lick against this gray 1391 01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:38,440 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1392 01:15:38,440 --> 01:15:40,440 Not even the minister or the president 1393 01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:42,440 Will agree with the scene 1394 01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:44,440 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1395 01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:46,440 Not even the minister or the president 1396 01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:48,440 Will agree with the scene 1397 01:15:48,940 --> 01:15:50,440 Lick against this gray 1398 01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:52,440 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1399 01:15:52,440 --> 01:16:03,140 Made the 1400 01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:07,440 If someone invites me 1401 01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:13,240 That the Kombi sent to pick up 1402 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,440 I'll know 1403 01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:18,100 What night was 1404 01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:51,440 Translation and subtitles YAEMI NATUMI 1405 01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:21,440 Subtitles YAEMI NATUMI 1406 01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:51,440 Subtitles YAEMI NATUMI 1407 01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:21,440 Subtitles YAEMI NATUMI 1408 01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:51,440 Subtitles YAEMI NATUMI 1409 01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:21,440 Subtitles YAEMI NATUMI 101907

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