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(phone buzzing)
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- [Host] 91 million of us
worldwide search for love online.
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- She was looking for love.
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- She wanted someone that
would give her the freedom
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to be herself.
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- He looked like a normal nice guy.
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- [Host] But internet dating
can be a dangerous game.
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- [Reporter] The mother of two
small boys reported missing
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early Sunday morning.
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- [Host] In the UK alone
crime linked to online dating
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has risen 450% over five years.
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- This is a predator's paradise.
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- It's that dark side of the web
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that people don't realize exists.
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- [Host] These are the
real life love stories
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that ended in tragedy.
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- Each day she was living in fear.
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- I knew that he was no angel,
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but he really had me tricked.
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- [Host] So how well do you really know
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the person you're dating?
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- She didn't stand a chance
against that monster of a man.
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(dramatic music)
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- The thing you need to
know about Adelaide is
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that it's hailed as the city of churches,
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of wine, of music, of
progressive social thought.
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- Come from a culture here
of community and family,
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with care and culture.
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People are happy and comfortable
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and everyone knows everyone up here.
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- We'd not had a cyber crime before.
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You had your hackers that had gone in
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and raided somebody's bank account.
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You had people that had
lost their identity,
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but nobody used the internet
to kill until this point.
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- [Reporter] A body was found in the surf
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by a beach walker yesterday.
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Markings in the sand suggest
there was a struggle.
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(melancholy music)
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- Carly was so funny as a teenager.
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She used to make me laugh a lot.
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I'd be house cleaning, mopping the floor,
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doing all those mom things,
and she'd say to me,
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"Mom, stop cleaning, come dance with me."
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And so she'd put on like her favorite song
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and she come out in
her long, stripey socks
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and she'd want me to dance
with her around the house.
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And sometimes I just used
to sit and look at her
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and think, "Gosh, look at
this kid that I've created.
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"How lucky am I?"
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- When I first saw Carly
she was completely different
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and just so much fun.
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I went, "Oh my God,
this chick is so cool!"
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- 'Cause she was really creative
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and she didn't wanna
be like everybody else.
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She wanted to have her own flair.
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She'd wear the red lipstick
and have the red nails
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and she'd wear the very vintage dress
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and the really vintage '60s shoes.
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- From the moment I met her she was always
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such a kind, open-hearted person.
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- [Host] 14 year old Carly
Ryan lived with her mother,
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Sonya, on the outskirts of Adelaide.
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- She was always so happy
and just full of life
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and energy and wanting to experience.
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She's going on 15 and the
world was right in front of her
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and she wanted to do all kinds of things,
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kind of limitless possibilities.
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- [Host] Like most teenagers her age,
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Carly wanted to try new things.
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- When Carly Ryan was 14 years old,
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she got involved with a group of friends
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that were a bit more experimental.
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Unfortunately for Carly that
meant alcohol poisoning,
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and she ended up in
hospital very, very ill.
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She came out of hospital and
she said to her mother, Sonya,
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"I don't want to be around those friends,
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"I don't wanna be drinking,
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"I don't wanna be a part of that scene."
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- [Host] Carly turned to
the internet searching
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for new friends.
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- When you're a teenager and you're trying
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to find yourself and
you're unsure of things
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and it's hard to make friends,
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internet's a great platform to communicate
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with other people on.
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- She'd show me, "Mom, I can
talk to three friends at once."
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She thought it was
fantastic that they could
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have conversations
together and share things.
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- I first came into contact with Carly,
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I was speaking to my best friend.
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She found Carly's profile on a website
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and Carly had a lot of the
same things in common with us.
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Anyway, I sent her a message
and introduced myself
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and we just started chatting.
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- Carly came to me one day and said,
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"I've met this really lovely girl!"
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They had this instant connection,
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they had a really good
friendship out of it.
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So there was lots of positivity happening
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around these kinds of connections.
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- It was 2006 and it was,
I guess, the first phase
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onto social media where it
all sort of began really.
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This is the spot where I
very first ever met Carly
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after talking online for a few weeks.
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And Carly just came
running down this path here
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and just jumped, hugged me,
and didn't even say anything
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and just really took me by surprise.
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And that's just the type
of person that she was.
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So full of life and happy
and just lovely, lovely girl.
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- Social media was new, it was glamorous,
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it was exciting at the
time and Carly wasn't used
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to liaising with people outside
of her own social network.
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When we create an online profile,
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we're sharing information about ourself.
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We're sharing our likes, dislikes,
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our loves, our hates, and so on.
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So actually we're sharing
quite intimate information
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and essentially show people who we are.
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It's then very easy to
be taken advantage of.
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- [Host] In August 2005
Carly's online profile
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attracted the attention of
a guy called Brandon Kane,
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an 18 year old rock musician
who lived in Melbourne.
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- He saw Carly's profile and they all
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just started talking to each other.
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The girls were all excited.
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He was talking to a number of her friends.
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She came to me and said, "Mom,
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"I've met this really cool guy,
he's awesome, he's lovely."
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And I'm like, "Okay, yeah,
right, tell me about him."
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And she was just gushing,
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she just thought he was
the best thing ever.
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- I thought he was attractive.
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I was jealous in some ways, I guess.
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Every young girl who
likes that kind of music,
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that's what they wanted in a partner.
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It was everything that she'd
obviously dreamt about.
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- [Host] While Sonya
was pleased that Carly
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was making new friends, she
kept a watchful eye over her.
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- He was 18, and I said to her, "You know,
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"there's a bit of an age difference here.
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"Just keep it cool."
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And every time I looked over her shoulder
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it was just these normal
conversations about life.
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They were talking about
music, school, homework,
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traveling, things they
wanted to do in their future.
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The kind of normal conversations you have
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when you're getting to know somebody.
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It was just okay, sounds like a nice kid.
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- [Host] With so much in common,
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Brandon and Carly grew closer.
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They began a long-distance
relationship online.
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- Brandon was the best thing
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that could have possibly
happened to Carly.
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She's come out of this horrible situation
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with the alcohol poisoning
into a really good
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stable relationship with this boy.
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- When you commence online
dating you're already saying
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"I'm willing to trust."
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Once your profile is there,
once other people are looking
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at it you're exposing
yourself to others in a way
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which would not normally
be the level of disclosure
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that you would have if
you met face-to-face.
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Traditionally it's younger
people who are more vulnerable
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because they're willing to
suspend their disbelief.
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They're not necessarily as cynical.
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And they're not necessarily as mistrustful
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as an older group.
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- [Host] As Sonya showed
interest in their relationship,
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so did Brandon's stepfather, Shane.
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- I always remember
looking at Carly's page
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and seeing the conversations
that they were having
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between each other, and the dad, Shane,
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was always included on
these conversations.
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It was like the three
of them were talking.
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- [Host] Carly told Brandon
that she had grown up
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without her father.
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- There was definitely a
void of her dad in her life.
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That's why I believe
that he introduced Shane.
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- Some people are really,
really skilled at seeking out
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what they see as vulnerabilities
in someone's profile.
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If there's a gap in someone's
needs, they'll try to fill it
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so that that person depends on them
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and trusts them even more.
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- [Host] In January 2007 Carly planned
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to celebrate her 15th
birthday with a party at home.
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She invited Brandon to come.
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- Brandon sent a message
back saying, "Look,
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"I'm not gonna be able to make it.
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"I'm going to be somewhere
else at the time.
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"But my stepfather can come instead."
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- Carly came running into
the kitchen and said,
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"Mom, Brandon's dad's on the phone."
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He said, "Look, I'm coming to Adelaide
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"and I'd love to drop by a
present for Carly's birthday
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"and come and meet the family."
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And I said, "Okay, let's see
if we can work that out."
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- Brandon can't make it, she's crushed.
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But the idea that Shane can come instead,
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that gives her a bit of boost again,
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the idea that okay, my
boyfriend can't come,
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but the stepdad can be
there and he's a friend too.
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- Through social media
we can talk to someone
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for a very long time before
we actually meet them.
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And what happens is we
might grow to trust them
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or feel close to them.
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If you met somebody in
person for the first time,
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you probably wouldn't trust them enough
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to invite them to stay at your house.
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But if you've spoken to them online,
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you might be lulled into
a false sense of security
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and you might extend a bunch of trust
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that you wouldn't usually.
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- [Host] On the evening
of Carly's birthday party,
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Brandon's stepfather, Shane,
arrived at Carly's house.
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- He was just a normal guy.
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He was just polite.
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Met my family, met her cousins.
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Is there anything I can do?
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Carly is just absolutely so happy
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to finally meet Brandon's dad.
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She was just absolutely beaming
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and absolutely busting to
find out more about Brandon.
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Eventually at the end of the
night everyone went to bed,
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a bunch of kids slept in Carly's room.
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And then he said, "I
better go and get a hotel"
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and everything, and I was
like, "Don't be silly,
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"there's a spare room."
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- [Host] Shane stayed the
night in the family guest room.
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- When I woke up in the
morning and went to get ready
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I walked past her bedroom
door and I noticed
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that Shane was asleep on Carly's bed
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on top of the covers with
all the other kids in there.
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And I immediately I went, "What the?"
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And I said, "You need to
get out of my house now.
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"Get your things and leave."
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He puffed up and said nothing, was silent.
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(dramatic music)
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And walked out of the house
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and got in his car and drove away.
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And I said to Carly, "I
don't care how much you care
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"about Brandon, there is something
wrong here with his dad."
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- At the start I didn't understand Sonya.
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I didn't understand on a parenting level
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how you could be prepared
to let a stranger
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come stay in your house.
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But you've gotta remember,
he wasn't a stranger.
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Everyone in the family knew Shane.
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Everybody in the family knew Brandon.
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Sure, they hadn't met them face-to-face,
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but they knew them, same way that you know
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your kids' friend's parents at school.
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- I cut the internet off, I
took her phone away from her,
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and said to her, "I'm
going to the police."
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Mom, no, please don't, please, I beg you,
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don't go to the police.
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Mom, if you go to the police
I'll never see Brandon again.
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Literally begging me
not to call the police.
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So I didn't call the police.
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Here I have a daughter
whose heart has been
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really taken in by this boy.
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And so I had to try and think on my feet,
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how am I going to negotiate this issue?
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I said to her, "Okay, I'll
give you your phone back,
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"but there's no more
connection with Shane."
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She said, "Mom, you
know what, that's fine.
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"I don't need to talk to Shane ever again.
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"I just wanna be able to see Brandon,
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"and I hope this doesn't
break our friendship,
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"our relationship."
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It was nothing out of the
ordinary, just an ordinary day.
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She was going to catch
the bus down to the city
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to meet her friends in
town and then go back
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to her friend's house for a sleepover,
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which we'd prearranged over
the phone with the mom and dad.
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And she got all dressed up.
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She wanted me to paint her nails for her,
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so I painted her nails
in two different colors.
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She used, I'm sure, a full can
of hairspray getting ready.
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When she was all ready she got her bag
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and she put her overnight things in there
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and a giant can of hairspray.
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She was in the hallway and she
said, "Mom, give me a hug."
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And I basically gave her
a hug and then she wanted
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another hug, and then I wanted a hug,
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and then she wanted another hug,
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so we had four massive,
giant hugs at the doorway.
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Then she said, "I love you,"
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and she just skipped off the veranda.
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Like completely carefree, "Love you, mom."
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(melancholy music)
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- In the early hours on
the morning of the 20th
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of February we received a call
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at the Major Crime Office
from the local police.
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A body of a young female
had been found here
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at Horseshoe Bay.
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Initially we didn't know if
it was an accidental drowning
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or something suspicious.
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And as the day progressed the pathologist
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stripped away any realm
of it being an accident.
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You could see bruises on her face.
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The female's body had injuries
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that were inconsistent
with being an accident.
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This is heading down that path
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of being a very callous homicide.
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So the efforts really stepped up
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to identify who the victim is.
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- 8:00 in the morning I rang Carly.
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Her phone was off, and I thought,
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"Hang on a minute, this is my
15 year old teenage daughter
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"who never has her phone off."
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Then the next thing you
know I get a phone call
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and it's a man who says, "Is
this the home of Carly Ryan?"
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And I said, "Yes, I'm her mom."
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And he said, "I just found
your daughter's purse
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"on the side of the road."
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And it was in a location far away
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from where she was supposed to be.
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Then rang the family where she
was supposed to be staying.
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Oh, Carly never showed up.
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What, why didn't you call me?
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Why didn't I know about
this, what do you mean?
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So where is she?
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We don't know.
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Immediately I called police, I said,
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"My daughter's missing, I can't find her."
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And they proceeded to tell
me that they found the body
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of a girl matching Carly's description.
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We need you to come in
to identify this girl.
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And going into a room with a curtain
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and a glass window, and my
whole family bracing themselves
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and going, "It's okay,
it probably won't be her,
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"it's all right."
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And then the police
saying, "Are you ready?"
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And then they pulled the curtain back.
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It wasn't until I saw her fingernails
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that I painted the day before
that I was like, "Oh my God."
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I mean, what prepares
you to lose your child?
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She's not supposed to go before me.
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I'm supposed to go before her.
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How could this be my daughter
laying on a metal slab,
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and who on earth would do this to my child
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who was just this loving
bundle of happy joy,
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who would never hurt anybody?
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Who could do this and
why would anyone do this
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and how did this happen?
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- [Reporter] 15 year
old Carly Ryan drowned
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with severe head injuries on Monday night.
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- I went and turned the
TV on and watched the news
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and her face just popped up.
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It just hit me like a ton of bricks.
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Nobody knew who had done
it or what had happened.
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We were all just so scared,
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this person was still out on the loose.
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- In this area over here
there were items found
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that indicated there'd
been a violent struggle.
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There was a tip of a latex glove found,
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jewelry items, including
earrings, necklace.
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And there was also some droplets of blood.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Host] Police expanded their search
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to the nearby shopping area.
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- The police came to check for CCTV.
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Looking at that CCTV
you are able see Carly.
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It was quite distinctive clothing.
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And she had a red streak in her hair.
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- [Host] The two unidentifiable men
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immediately became suspects.
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- [John] We needed to start looking at
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who these people might be, of course,
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who may have done this.
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- [Host] Another major breakthrough came
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when an eyewitness reported
seeing Carly with two men
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on the beach near the
crime scene late at night.
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He also noted a lone car in
the car park above the beach.
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- He gave a really good description
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of the vehicle, a Toyota Lexus.
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He didn't have the registration number,
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but significantly he was able to describe
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a security badge that was attached
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to the front passenger air vent.
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He drew a picture of that security badge
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with the number 24.
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It's the top of a tag that a
security officer would wear
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that performs door duties.
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- [Host] Meanwhile, investigators turned
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to Carly's mother for help.
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- Who has Carly been in contact with?
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What electronic devices, what
mobile phone has she got,
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where is that, what's been
happening recently in her life?
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- I gave them all the
information from her computer
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and assisted them in every way I could
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to help them to try and piece together
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what had actually happened to Carly.
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- [Host] Detectives looked into Carly's
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online relationships.
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- The name Brandon Kane
was just a constant name
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that Carly was in contact with.
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Carly seemed to be a bit infatuated,
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almost in love with this Brandon Kane,
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a boyfriend/girlfriend type relationship.
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- [Host] Looking through
Brandon and Carly's
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email exchanges detectives
notice some strange behavior.
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- [John] He was trying to
continually manipulate things
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with her friends and associates.
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- [Host] As her relationship
with Brandon grew closer,
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Carly had become increasingly
isolated from her friends.
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- He started making up
rumors about her online
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and telling her that her friends had said
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certain things about her
which they hadn't said.
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Brandon had said, "All your
friends are just leaving you
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"because they're all just jealous
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"of the relationship that
we have and that's why
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"they don't wanna be
friends with you anymore."
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So I think at this point
Carly probably thought
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that Brandon was her only friend.
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He isolated her so much from everybody.
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- Through that investigation
I just breathed in and out,
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focused on Carly.
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Because I think what drives that issue is
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you want the truth to be revealed.
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- [Host] Sonya also showed
detectives an email chain
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between herself and
Brandon's stepfather, Shane,
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following the incident at
Carly's birthday party.
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- Sonya had told us that
there had been an exchange
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in an email between her and this Shane
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where it was quite nasty.
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- When I agreed not to contact police,
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I sent Shane an email and
said he no longer had access
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to Carly and that if he
approached her in any manner,
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online, on the phone, in life,
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that I would go straight to the police.
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- The reply email sent from
Shane was, "Bitch please!
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"The things you called
me were totally defaming
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"and I've forwarded the
email onto my solicitor
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"for further action.
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"By the way, if Brandon and
Carly wish to be together,
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"they will, and here is
a big news flash, bitch,
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"if they do get together,
I'm quite sure Carly
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"will be moving in with him.
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"You lose, bitch."
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And I just went whoa,
okay, this is full on.
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Then I sent an email back saying
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I wouldn't be threatened by him.
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And then I just left it
alone because I didn't want
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to pursue that kind of dialogue with him.
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And honestly I just wanted him to go away.
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- Predators online, many
of them will persevere
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far beyond what one would expect.
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Many of them will stalk or remain engaged,
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will take setbacks and
will continue to gnaw away
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at the subject if what they
want is to conquer them.
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- [Host] With Brandon and
Shane the lead suspects,
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police took a close look
at Carly's mobile phone.
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- When we looked at the
data there was constant
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phone contact between a number
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of different telephone numbers.
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Two in particular that stood out.
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- [Host] Police asked
the telephone company
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to track the movements of
these two phone numbers.
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- We were able to see that the phone calls
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had been made from Victoria
to Adelaide Hills to Carly.
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We were able to then track
timings for visits to Adelaide.
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- [Host] The data showed
that the phones had traveled
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from Victoria to Adelaide on
the night Carly went missing
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and on the night of her birthday,
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the night Shane came to visit.
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- At the same time we were
sending off for the checks
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from telecommunication companies to see
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who held the account at the other end.
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And as we looked into
who those people were
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and the addresses provided with them,
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we just found that they
were completely false.
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- [Host] With no real name
or address from the records,
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police continued to trace
the movements of the phones.
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- We were noticing that there was a number
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of calls at Walkerville,
which is a suburb in Adelaide.
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And, of course, you're
looking at what sort
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of accommodation people that
travel over in a vehicle
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would be staying at, and there's a lodge,
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Caravan Park, nearby in Walkerville.
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- [Host] On a hunch, detectives
visited the Caravan Park
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in Walkerville.
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- A whole raft of inquiries were made
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at that Caravan Park and
witnesses came forward.
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Two men had stayed in
one of the cabins there.
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- [Host] The two men drove a
car that matched the one seen
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in the car park near the crime scene
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on the night of the murder.
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- And there was a registration
number given of this car.
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The vehicle came out to
an address in Victoria.
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- [Host] The address in Melbourne
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where the car was registered
matched the location
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where Brandon and Shane had called Carly.
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- At the end of that day
we had two detectives off
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to Melbourne on a plane.
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- [Host] Arriving in Melbourne,
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the detectives from South Australia
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scouted the address where
the car was registered.
500
00:29:49,870 --> 00:29:54,280
- The vehicle was actually
seen parked outside the house.
501
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,720
And most tellingly, that security badge
502
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,570
was still attached to
the passenger air vent.
503
00:30:02,068 --> 00:30:04,468
It was exactly as that
witness had described it.
504
00:30:06,650 --> 00:30:08,330
- [Host] The vehicle and its address
505
00:30:08,330 --> 00:30:10,750
also provided investigators with a new
506
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:12,770
and shocking revelation.
507
00:30:12,770 --> 00:30:14,330
- We established what
the registration number
508
00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:18,823
of the vehicle was, that
came out to a Garry Newman.
509
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:25,680
Garry Newman did live at this
address we were looking at.
510
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,770
We're trying to link who Garry is,
511
00:30:28,770 --> 00:30:30,920
not the person that's been corresponding
512
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,443
with Carly on the internet.
513
00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:46,063
On the 3rd of March, 2007,
514
00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:54,583
knocked on the door and see
him through the front window,
515
00:30:55,970 --> 00:30:58,790
and he came from his computer and got up
516
00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:01,700
and answered the door and was arrested
517
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:03,373
by a couple of my colleagues.
518
00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:08,800
- [Host] Garry Newman
exercised his right to silence.
519
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,373
Detectives searched
his house for evidence.
520
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:17,705
- It was a case that even on
opening that first desk drawer
521
00:31:17,705 --> 00:31:21,970
by Garry's computer there were pages
522
00:31:21,970 --> 00:31:24,440
and pages of profile names and passwords
523
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,213
for different social networking site,
524
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:31,223
sites that I'd never even heard of.
525
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Garry had 200 plus profiles.
526
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,860
There is a realization that Brandon
527
00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:43,253
and Shane just aren't real.
528
00:31:47,130 --> 00:31:49,280
- [Host] Investigators discover that Carly
529
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,960
wasn't the only teenager
Garry Newman was talking to.
530
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,490
- The electronic crime member was able
531
00:31:55,490 --> 00:31:57,890
to move the mouse and get
the screen to come up.
532
00:31:58,870 --> 00:32:01,890
There was chats open on that computer,
533
00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:04,288
and Garry was talking to someone
534
00:32:04,288 --> 00:32:07,093
that ended up being a 14 year old girl.
535
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:12,150
- [Host] Newman had not
only been deceiving Carly,
536
00:32:12,150 --> 00:32:14,260
but also numerous other teenagers
537
00:32:14,260 --> 00:32:17,890
through his hundreds of
fake online personas.
538
00:32:17,890 --> 00:32:20,106
- He must have spent hours and hours
539
00:32:20,106 --> 00:32:23,823
on his computer making profiles.
540
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,520
- [Host] Each profile appeared real,
541
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,030
using fake photos, friends, and family
542
00:32:30,030 --> 00:32:33,180
to craft each of his online personas.
543
00:32:33,180 --> 00:32:35,770
Brandon and Shane were two of those.
544
00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:38,630
- He had multiple
profiles linked together,
545
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:40,253
multiple people linked together.
546
00:32:41,090 --> 00:32:44,070
But they all had some sort of
background information to them
547
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:47,750
so if you did an initial
check who the person was
548
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:49,440
and then looked at some photographs,
549
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,430
there'd be something to support each
550
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:52,930
and every one of those people.
551
00:32:54,930 --> 00:32:57,300
- When the police
investigate online offenders,
552
00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:58,910
they often find that
they've been in contact
553
00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:00,847
with a range of different people.
554
00:33:00,847 --> 00:33:03,800
They often also find
evidence such as diaries
555
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,230
or other notes to the self
that the person has used
556
00:33:07,230 --> 00:33:09,520
to ensure consistency in their story.
557
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,180
What we often see is that the internet is
558
00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:13,860
a very important part of what they do.
559
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:15,800
It empowers them to be a different person
560
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,630
from what they are in real life.
561
00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:19,131
It gives them an opportunity to contact
562
00:33:19,131 --> 00:33:21,480
a much broader range of people,
563
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,840
and it allows them the opportunity
564
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,300
to recreate the person that
they portray themselves as
565
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:28,100
in order to win the trust of others.
566
00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:31,900
- [Host] During the
search of Newman's house,
567
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,960
a camera that mysteriously went missing
568
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,363
at Carly's 15th birthday
party was recovered.
569
00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:42,000
- And when it was examined,
this photograph here
570
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,380
is the photograph showing
Garry in the house.
571
00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:50,160
The importance of that
photograph was Sonya was able
572
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,817
to look at that photograph and say, "Yes,
573
00:33:52,817 --> 00:33:54,367
"this is the person that came over
574
00:33:54,367 --> 00:33:57,473
"to Carly's birthday party, this is Shane.
575
00:33:58,450 --> 00:34:00,600
"It's not this person
called Garry Newman."
576
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:06,392
- What?
577
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:11,980
I made the guy dinner without even knowing
578
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:15,210
who I'd just let into my house.
579
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:19,673
Had no comprehension,
absolutely no understanding.
580
00:34:21,610 --> 00:34:24,450
- [Host] Investigators also
broke the news to Sonya
581
00:34:24,450 --> 00:34:27,090
that Brandon wasn't real either.
582
00:34:27,090 --> 00:34:28,740
- What are you talking
about Brandon isn't real?
583
00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:31,310
I've seen him, I've seen pictures of him.
584
00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:32,920
I saw him typing.
585
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,480
That was looped vision of a boy typing.
586
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,313
What?
587
00:34:39,610 --> 00:34:42,137
A complete and utter shock, utter shock.
588
00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:47,350
We were no match for a criminal like this,
589
00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:48,850
absolutely no match.
590
00:34:48,850 --> 00:34:51,300
- The most fascinating
thing about this case is
591
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:54,244
the extent to which the offender went
592
00:34:54,244 --> 00:34:56,500
to construct an artificial world
593
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,530
to draw others into them,
the risk taking they took
594
00:34:59,530 --> 00:35:03,150
in terms of engaging in
face-to-face contact,
595
00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:07,130
and their willingness to
persevere with a fantasy,
596
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:11,167
a concoction of strange personalities
597
00:35:11,167 --> 00:35:13,330
despite the fact that they were challenged
598
00:35:13,330 --> 00:35:14,690
and confronted on this.
599
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:16,020
That level of persistence,
600
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:18,963
that level of machination is exceptional.
601
00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:21,567
- [Reporter] Garry Newman's
602
00:35:21,567 --> 00:35:23,220
been concealing his identity for years.
603
00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:27,160
The 51 year old used the fake
online persona Brandon Kane
604
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,450
to lure Carly Ryan before murdering her
605
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:30,883
on a beach at Port Elliot.
606
00:35:31,890 --> 00:35:34,310
- The last night of Carly
Ryan's life came about
607
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:37,650
because Shane finally had
something to offer her
608
00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:40,263
that she wanted, he had Brandon Kane.
609
00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:43,490
He'd arranged for a kid from Victoria
610
00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:47,963
to act as a stand-in, to
play the role of Brandon.
611
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,150
He made sure that Carly knew
that he and Brandon were
612
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:56,023
in town, and this was her
opportunity to see him.
613
00:35:57,340 --> 00:35:59,180
- [Host] What Sonya didn't know was that
614
00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:02,520
on the evening Carly left for
a sleepover with her friend,
615
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,310
she had secretly made other plans.
616
00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:08,530
- Garry had left Victoria
on the 14th of February,
617
00:36:08,530 --> 00:36:09,770
driven to Adelaide.
618
00:36:09,770 --> 00:36:14,483
There'd been contact between
Carly and Garry on the phone.
619
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,930
- [Host] Under the guise
of Brandon and Shane,
620
00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:20,740
Newman had arranged to
pick Carly up from Adelaide
621
00:36:20,740 --> 00:36:22,933
and take her to nearby Port Elliot.
622
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,410
- Can you imagine what
it must have felt like
623
00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:29,330
for Carly at that time,
getting out of that house,
624
00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:31,940
knowing that on the other
side of that little fence
625
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,610
was going to be the
person you've been waiting
626
00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:35,720
to meet for 18 months?
627
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:40,670
She expected this
brooding, deep thinking boy
628
00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:43,360
who loved to play guitar,
who had written her
629
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,170
all these beautiful letters and messages,
630
00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:47,493
who had professed undying love for her.
631
00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:51,180
This was gonna be the
moment she got to lay eyes
632
00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:53,450
on her true love, but it's no wonder
633
00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:55,320
that she told her mother a white lie.
634
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,095
It's no wonder that she
was prepared one last time
635
00:36:58,095 --> 00:37:00,930
to trust Shane, because this is
636
00:37:00,930 --> 00:37:02,423
what she'd been waiting for.
637
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,980
- I truly didn't think she'd lie to me.
638
00:37:06,980 --> 00:37:09,399
I didn't think that he would be able
639
00:37:09,399 --> 00:37:12,483
to infiltrate her life like that.
640
00:37:12,483 --> 00:37:14,758
I didn't think that he would be able
641
00:37:14,758 --> 00:37:17,175
to come in between her and I.
642
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:26,010
- So Carly Ryan had come here thinking
643
00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:31,010
she was with friends, but
she really had no idea
644
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,763
what was going to transpire later.
645
00:37:35,290 --> 00:37:38,160
- [Host] Based on evidence,
detectives pieced together
646
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,050
what they believe happened in the moments
647
00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:41,913
leading up to Carly's murder.
648
00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:47,383
- Carly Ryan was violently
assaulted by Garry Newman.
649
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,640
He jumped her from behind,
punched her in the head,
650
00:37:57,430 --> 00:38:01,097
and pushed her head into
the sand, suffocating her.
651
00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:09,230
He held her head in the
sand and sat on her.
652
00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:11,700
He's a big man, he's six foot three,
653
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:15,113
probably 110 plus kilos.
654
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,513
Carly was just a young,
small 15 year old girl.
655
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,960
There was no way she would have been able
656
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,840
to get away from him.
657
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,660
And then just disposed of her body
658
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:34,150
in the ocean just over here hoping
659
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:35,950
that her body wouldn't be recovered.
660
00:38:41,850 --> 00:38:44,970
- The forensic experts
calculated that she was alive
661
00:38:44,970 --> 00:38:46,373
for at least 30 minutes.
662
00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:52,010
I've always had trouble
coming to terms with that,
663
00:38:52,010 --> 00:38:53,810
this idea that she was lost and alone
664
00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:55,160
in the water for that long.
665
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:58,500
And that someone could
just be so calloused
666
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,440
with a young life, just
attack them from behind
667
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,890
and throw them away like
that, just discard them.
668
00:39:05,950 --> 00:39:07,980
- I've got no doubt that Garry
thought that she was dead
669
00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:10,100
and thinking that her
body's gonna be washed away,
670
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:12,374
never to be found and she would just
671
00:39:12,374 --> 00:39:16,033
be a reported missing person
and no one would be the wiser.
672
00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:21,970
But fortunately for us
her body was recovered.
673
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,780
That led to being able to
put this picture together
674
00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:28,680
and get the evidence to make
sure we secured a conviction.
675
00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:35,791
- 10 years ago people didn't understand
676
00:39:35,791 --> 00:39:37,180
the way these platforms worked.
677
00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:39,090
They didn't understand what it meant
678
00:39:39,090 --> 00:39:40,740
to create a profile online.
679
00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:44,610
They didn't understand that
the internet is a window
680
00:39:44,610 --> 00:39:47,070
into your life, it's not a
door you can lock and shut,
681
00:39:47,070 --> 00:39:48,503
unless you're very careful.
682
00:39:53,490 --> 00:39:58,220
- [Host] In October 2009 the
case finally came to court.
683
00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:00,503
Sean Fewster reported on the trial.
684
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,930
- There's always a fear
when you're covering
685
00:40:02,930 --> 00:40:04,940
a criminal trial that
the jury's gonna hear
686
00:40:04,940 --> 00:40:06,760
everything you've heard and come back
687
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,210
with a completely different take on it,
688
00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:10,450
that you've realized
in your heart of hearts
689
00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:12,640
that this person's guilty
but the jury's gonna say
690
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,380
oh no, there's a technicality,
691
00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:17,130
or we're just not prepared
to convict on that evidence.
692
00:40:19,090 --> 00:40:22,833
The jury deliberated for 10
and a half hours over two days.
693
00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:28,280
And it was such a long period of time
694
00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:33,440
worrying whether Newman
was gonna walk free
695
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,290
at the end of it.
696
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,850
So when they came back
in and we all filed in
697
00:40:42,850 --> 00:40:45,780
to hear that verdict,
the relief that swept
698
00:40:45,780 --> 00:40:48,330
over the room, and it
was a packed courtroom,
699
00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:50,430
the relief that swept
over that packed courtroom
700
00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:52,830
when they said, "Guilty,"
it was just palpable.
701
00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:54,390
- [Reporter] Newman was
convicted of murder,
702
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:56,943
which carries a mandatory life sentence.
703
00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:09,860
- [Host] The murder of
her daughter set Sonya
704
00:41:09,860 --> 00:41:12,483
on a mission that would
change Australian law.
705
00:41:13,650 --> 00:41:16,380
- I immediately knew Garry
Newman cannot be the only man
706
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:20,010
out there using the
internet to harm children.
707
00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:23,723
So what can I do?
708
00:41:25,010 --> 00:41:28,200
If I have to live here without my child,
709
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,130
I have to do something meaningful,
710
00:41:30,130 --> 00:41:32,713
I have to do something to
prevent this suffering.
711
00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:36,200
- [Host] Sonya sought
for a change in the law
712
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,773
to give police greater powers
to catch online predators.
713
00:41:41,980 --> 00:41:43,340
- Carly was the first girl murdered
714
00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:45,660
by an online predator in Australia,
715
00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:47,450
so this never happened before.
716
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:49,777
And so all of sudden
people are like, "What?
717
00:41:49,777 --> 00:41:52,437
"There are criminals
online doing this stuff?"
718
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,679
The legislation hadn't
caught up with technology.
719
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,480
So we were not prepared.
720
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,840
- This is a predator's paradise.
721
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,000
This is exactly where a
deceptive person wants to be,
722
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,870
the space that they want to work in
723
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:08,080
to achieve their goals.
724
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,320
And so people as a result
looked at Carly's story
725
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,860
and said we need to make sure
this doesn't happen again.
726
00:42:12,860 --> 00:42:14,670
We need to be more careful about that,
727
00:42:14,670 --> 00:42:16,520
because the next child could be mine.
728
00:42:18,956 --> 00:42:20,380
- [Host] After a six year battle,
729
00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:25,380
on the 15th of June, 2017
Carly's Law was finally passed.
730
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:29,060
Authorities could now
prosecute people lying
731
00:42:29,060 --> 00:42:31,800
about their age to minors online.
732
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,550
- This is testament to
the love of Sonya Ryan
733
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:40,260
for her daughter, and
that this act of love,
734
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:45,260
this relentless campaign,
this passion of Sonya's,
735
00:42:45,350 --> 00:42:49,347
will undoubtedly lead to
many lives being saved
736
00:42:49,347 --> 00:42:51,010
in the future.
737
00:42:51,010 --> 00:42:53,360
- Positively, Carly's Law
came out of this case.
738
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,436
This might provide a deterrent,
739
00:42:55,436 --> 00:42:57,190
and it might stop people from engaging
740
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:59,460
in risky behaviors with young people.
741
00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:01,750
Unfortunately, it may not be
a deterrent for everybody,
742
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:04,783
so we still have to remain
very aware of online safety.
743
00:43:15,770 --> 00:43:18,140
- The bond I have with my
daughter is unbreakable,
744
00:43:18,140 --> 00:43:20,890
and I feel her all the time
in the work that I'm doing.
745
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,163
I'll never get over it.
746
00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:29,350
It's something that you will
have for the rest of your life.
747
00:43:29,350 --> 00:43:32,193
I mean, I miss her every
minute of every day.
748
00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:40,110
I chose to fight, and not only for Carly,
749
00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:43,820
but for all of the other
many, many thousands
750
00:43:43,820 --> 00:43:45,723
of children who don't have a voice.
751
00:43:48,030 --> 00:43:50,120
Carly used to walk up here.
752
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She just absolutely loved this spot.
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For me, it's a place
that I also come to now
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for peace and tranquility,
focusing my grief
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00:44:04,970 --> 00:44:07,183
into a way of being able to help others.
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And to just continue to try,
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to try and do what I think my
daughter would want me to do,
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and that is to live and to
try and make a difference.
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(contemplative music)
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