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Good morning, Ms. Krissman.
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Good morning.
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Good morning.
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Fifth floor.
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Ah, gracias.
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Ms. Krissman.
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Deputy Phillips.
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- How's Evelyn?
- She had a rough night.
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I'm so sorry to hear that.
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You won't say anything?
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Now, what kind of person
would I be if I did that?
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Good morning.
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- It was your anniversary?
- Yeah, our fifth.
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Cynthia surprised me with
this trip to Yellowstone.
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She loved the outdoors.
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And what happened, Mr. Covington?
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You know, we were just up
on a trail, hiking.
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- It was steep.
- She fell?
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She slipped.
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Now, Robin, I know that
there are people out there
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who believe that I had something to do
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with Cynthia's death.
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I mean, I understand.
We live in a cynical time.
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But what kind of a person would
think something like that?
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Really?
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- He pushed her.
- Definitely pushed her.
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He seems sad, though.
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Men get sad when they don't have a wife.
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If you actually murdered someone,
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why would you ever go on TV
to talk about it?
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Well, I do like Robin Roberts.
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Who is this guy, anyway?
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Arthur Covington,
one of the most successful
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criminal defense attorneys in Manhattan.
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At some point in your career,
you will lose to him.
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Everyone does.
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Except for me.
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- I heard his wife died?
- She slipped off a cliff.
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Oh, I didn't realize he killed her.
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Okay.
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New cases. Seth. Chavez.
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Ng.
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Leonard, I need you on Mendelson.
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My post office assault is going to trial.
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In fact, I'm late.
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I can do it.
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- Oliver.
- I got it.
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You like Robin Roberts, right?
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This is not a good morning.
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I'm assuming from
your presence here today
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the parties have been
unable to reach a deal?
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Your Honor, the government
has made a reasonable offer
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to defense counsel.
We're prepared to go to trial.
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When can you be ready?
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We're ready right now, Your Honor.
We can start today.
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I have a witness here, Merced Garcia,
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who was in the post office that afternoon
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and who is prepared to testify
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that Mr. Boyd committed
the assault as alleged.
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Your Honor, can we have a minute?
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Triceratops?
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Stegosaurus?
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Never really knew the difference between
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a Triceratops and a Stegosaurus.
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Triceratops has horns.
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Well, I am not smarter than
a fifth grader, apparently.
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And you're not even a fifth grader.
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You here with Dad?
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Velociraptor!
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We're going to work this out, Your Honor.
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You're telling me I can take
this trial off calendar?
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- Yes, Your Honor.
- Well, that's it.
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Thank you both.
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Mr. Garcia?
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I'm sorry, we're not gonna
need you after all.
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- Uh, no?
- No.
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Thank you for coming in, though.
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I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
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It's okay. Thank you.
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- I-I can go?
- You can go.
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Kim!
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Merced Garcia?
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Mr. Garcia,
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we're with Immigration
and Customs Enforcement.
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Do you have any identification on you?
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Identification.
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Are you a citizen of
the United States of America?
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I'm here for the trial.
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Do you have any permission
to be in the United States?
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He asked me to be here.
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You can go talk to Mr. Knox. Uh, please.
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Did you come here alone today?
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Uh, Mr. Knox, please.
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- We need to go.
- Sir, I...
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Do you know where my daddy is?
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Okay, young man. We're
gonna get to the bottom of this.
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It's a big courthouse, and
sometimes people get lost.
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I get lost, and I've worked here
a long time.
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Do you know how long I've worked here?
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Since those guys were around.
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What is your dad's name?
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- Merced.
- And what is your last name, sir?
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Garcia.
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Okay, Mr. Garcia.
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- Does your dad have a phone?
- Yes.
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Can you write the number down for me?
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Soy Merced Garcia. Por favor...
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How about your mom?
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Do you have other family members here?
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Mm, no.
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Just Daddy.
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Okay, well, your dad
was in Courtroom 501.
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We're gonna take a walk
and see what we can find.
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Daphne! Are you at the desk?
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- You're not Daphne.
- Ron Marin.
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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How can I help you, Agent Marin?
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We're looking for a boy.
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- A boy?
- Approximately seven years old.
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Last name Garcia.
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We picked up his father, Merced,
on the fifth floor.
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Illegal entry.
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Marshals tell us he came in
the building with a boy.
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No reason not to believe the marshals.
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Have you seen him?
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No, I have not.
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Anything else I can help you
with, Agent Marin?
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Just contact us if you see him around.
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I need your help.
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- He's icing me out.
- Who?
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- Roger.
- Oh, yes.
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Maybe I'm just being paranoid.
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You're not. You're definitely not.
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- It's because of the Sarco case.
- Yes.
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What do I do?
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Well, when I was in your shoes,
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I'd always go by your office
and complain.
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- You could try that.
- I should go by my office?
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Sounds weird when you say it.
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I should just talk to Roger.
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And say what?
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"I'm so sad.
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I'm not getting any work.
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Please be nice to me...
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I've given that speech many times...
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I've just never been
in this position before.
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You know what you need to do?
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You need to go out
and kill your own food.
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- What?
- Eat your own food?
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I don't know... I've had lunch.
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Kill what you eat. Eat what you kill.
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Eat what you kill!
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The point is, you need
to make your own work.
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Don't go looking at Roger for handouts.
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Find your food and kill it!
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Is that what you did?
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No, I just went by your office.
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Ramon, this is Jay.
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Jay's gonna help us find your dad.
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Hi, Ramon. Nice to meet you.
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Oh, cool.
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A Troodon.
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Is this yours?
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A Troodon is the smartest dinosaur.
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Did you know that?
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Oh, you probably know that.
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It also has three-fingered hands
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- and binocular vision.
- Oh.
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She thought it was a Stegosaurus.
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Okay.
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Can you finish stamping those
files while I talk to Jay?
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And you can stamp really, really hard.
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Have they come back?
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No, but they'll figure out
he hasn't left the building.
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I don't know if he's undocumented,
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I don't know anything about his status.
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Maybe this is a mistake.
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Maybe he's been released.
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I just know that I'm not
handing over that little boy
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until I know where his dad is
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and we have some reassurance
about where he's going.
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He can't stay here, Tina.
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He's staying here.
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I'm staying here.
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Until I know where his dad is
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and what happens if they take him.
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Let me talk to the lawyer
who was handling the case.
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That might be the easiest way
to find out where Merced is.
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- Merced Garcia?
- Yes.
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That's not your case. Why...
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He was picked up by ICE.
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What are you talking about?
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- In the courthouse.
- In the courthouse?
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- After my hearing?
- Yes.
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- Who told you this?
- Tina.
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He was cooperating.
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He was a cooperating witness,
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and they picked him up in the courthouse?
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Yes.
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And not just that.
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He had a kid with him.
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- A kid?
- Yes, a boy.
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- Where is he now?
- He's still in the courthouse.
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- This is totally outrageous.
- Yes.
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He didn't want to testify.
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I had to beg him to come in,
and then they take him?
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In our courthouse?
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They are arresting parents
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dropping their children off at school.
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They are getting motels
to turn over guest lists
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and running Latino-sounding names.
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They are looking at records of people
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who report domestic violence
and arresting the victims.
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This is where we are now.
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This is what they do.
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Now, what are you going to do?
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There's nothing we can do.
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I will call over to ICE.
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I don't think it will help.
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Well, that's why I work on
the other side of the street...
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to help.
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I started looking into
this Covington murder.
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- Why?
- Kill what you eat.
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What?
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Anyway, it's odd.
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The forensics don't match his story.
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What floor is supplies on?
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Binders are on 18,
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file folders are
behind the copy room on 21,
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pens, pads, writing supplies on 19.
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- What are you looking for?
- Jason.
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I borrowed $5 from him for a sandwich.
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Where do you get a sandwich for $5?
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You know what... I'm just gonna go to 16.
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Jason's on 22.
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But he's not in today.
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It looks like she was shoved,
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then beaten on the head with a rock.
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There's a motive, too...
an insurance policy.
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- Just renewed and improved.
- Okay. Got it, yes.
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You guys already convinced me
he killed her, and if he did,
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they'll charge him in Wyoming.
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Now I have to get back to work here
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because I have work because
I didn't piss off Roger.
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Here's the thing, though...
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he won't be charged in Wyoming
because he can't be
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because Arthur Covington
committed the perfect murder.
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You...
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First the animals,
now the national parks.
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Bizarre and little-known
and explosive legal fact...
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even though all of Yellowstone
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is in the judicial district of Wyoming
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and most of it is
in the state of Wyoming,
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small parts of it
are in Idaho and Montana.
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Yeah, okay, that's actually
Idaho and that's Montana,
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but go ahead.
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00:12:05,283 --> 00:12:07,942
Anyway, the sixth Amendment
to the Constitution says
264
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juries have to be drawn
from the state and district
265
00:12:10,533 --> 00:12:12,112
where a crime is committed, right?
266
00:12:12,113 --> 00:12:15,112
Well, in Covington's case,
that means a jury has to come
267
00:12:15,113 --> 00:12:17,072
from the Idaho section of Yellowstone
268
00:12:17,073 --> 00:12:20,442
because that is where
Covington's wife died.
269
00:12:20,443 --> 00:12:24,202
But that is impossible
because nobody lives
270
00:12:24,203 --> 00:12:26,862
in the Idaho section of
Yellowstone... nobody.
271
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Population... 0.
272
00:12:29,363 --> 00:12:31,612
- Did you make that?
- I thought it would be fun.
273
00:12:31,613 --> 00:12:33,862
This is the ultimate loophole.
274
00:12:33,863 --> 00:12:35,572
A small stretch of land
275
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where you can commit crime
with impunity... even murder.
276
00:12:38,823 --> 00:12:41,536
If you're smart and you want
to kill someone,
277
00:12:42,403 --> 00:12:44,153
this is the place to do it.
278
00:12:48,363 --> 00:12:52,822
That is the most insane thing
I've ever heard in my life.
279
00:12:52,823 --> 00:12:55,152
You're just making fun
of the midwest, right?
280
00:12:55,153 --> 00:12:57,902
Kate. I think you want to see this.
281
00:12:57,903 --> 00:12:59,782
We believe that Mr. Arthur Covington
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murdered his wife, Cynthia Covington,
283
00:13:02,033 --> 00:13:03,862
in the western area of the park
284
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right here in Idaho.
285
00:13:05,783 --> 00:13:08,072
We intended to file charges
against Mr. Covington.
286
00:13:08,073 --> 00:13:09,902
However, because of a disturbing
287
00:13:09,903 --> 00:13:11,572
jurisdictional deficiency,
288
00:13:11,573 --> 00:13:12,782
we are unable to do so...
289
00:13:12,783 --> 00:13:13,942
You're right.
290
00:13:13,943 --> 00:13:15,447
Yes, of course.
291
00:13:15,448 --> 00:13:17,782
But unfortunately, that means
you now need another case.
292
00:13:17,783 --> 00:13:19,032
No, it doesn't mean that.
293
00:13:19,033 --> 00:13:20,652
Arthur Covington lives
and works in New York,
294
00:13:20,653 --> 00:13:22,862
which means if he planned
the crime in New York,
295
00:13:22,863 --> 00:13:24,112
I can get him here.
296
00:13:25,403 --> 00:13:27,152
I am proud of you.
297
00:13:27,153 --> 00:13:29,492
All big predator out on the hunt,
298
00:13:29,493 --> 00:13:31,863
eating your food and killing it.
299
00:13:33,743 --> 00:13:36,202
Or the other way around.
300
00:13:36,203 --> 00:13:37,902
The name Merced Garcia isn't coming up
301
00:13:37,903 --> 00:13:39,782
in the ICE Detainee Locator System,
302
00:13:39,783 --> 00:13:41,652
but without an Alien Registration Number,
303
00:13:41,653 --> 00:13:43,152
it's very difficult to track him.
304
00:13:43,153 --> 00:13:44,442
And he may not even be processed yet.
305
00:13:44,443 --> 00:13:45,862
Or accurately.
306
00:13:45,863 --> 00:13:46,992
Look, I can try some contacts
307
00:13:46,993 --> 00:13:47,823
I have at the agency, but...
308
00:13:47,824 --> 00:13:49,112
What about Ramon?
309
00:13:49,113 --> 00:13:50,322
You said he was at the courthouse.
310
00:13:50,323 --> 00:13:52,532
I'm asking what if she turns
him over to ICE?
311
00:13:52,533 --> 00:13:56,322
If that happens, he goes into a
refugee resettlement facility.
312
00:13:56,323 --> 00:13:59,242
Now, that could be in New York
or Michigan or Florida.
313
00:13:59,243 --> 00:14:01,442
He could be moved around.
He probably would be.
314
00:14:01,443 --> 00:14:03,702
He'd be there for days or months.
315
00:14:03,703 --> 00:14:06,442
There are rules, but the rules
don't really apply anymore.
316
00:14:06,443 --> 00:14:08,072
He could be kept in a cage.
317
00:14:08,073 --> 00:14:09,992
He could be given psychotropic drugs.
318
00:14:09,993 --> 00:14:11,902
He could be forced to walk
around without shoes,
319
00:14:11,903 --> 00:14:13,492
to clean toilets with his bare hands,
320
00:14:13,493 --> 00:14:15,338
to sleep standing up.
321
00:14:15,823 --> 00:14:17,715
He could be sexually abused.
322
00:14:18,945 --> 00:14:20,655
You want to know what happens?
323
00:14:20,783 --> 00:14:22,442
This happens.
324
00:14:22,443 --> 00:14:24,112
If Merced gets deported,
325
00:14:24,113 --> 00:14:27,282
Ramon very well might stay
in the US, in foster care,
326
00:14:27,283 --> 00:14:30,992
not allowed to leave,
in a kind of legal purgatory...
327
00:14:30,993 --> 00:14:34,524
not a citizen, not free,
not able to go home.
328
00:14:34,903 --> 00:14:36,612
He just disappears.
329
00:14:43,153 --> 00:14:45,073
Mr. Garcia?
330
00:14:46,783 --> 00:14:48,203
Are you hungry?
331
00:14:51,403 --> 00:14:54,113
You seem like you'd be good
with puzzles, Mr. Garcia.
332
00:14:55,743 --> 00:14:57,367
Ramon?
333
00:15:16,863 --> 00:15:19,032
He told you to wait here.
334
00:15:19,033 --> 00:15:21,242
- He said don't move.
- Yes.
335
00:15:21,243 --> 00:15:24,153
Maybe he came back to find me
and I wasn't here.
336
00:15:25,943 --> 00:15:28,110
He always comes back.
337
00:15:28,111 --> 00:15:30,072
He wanted to come back
more than anything.
338
00:15:30,073 --> 00:15:33,202
I know he wanted to come back.
339
00:15:33,203 --> 00:15:35,073
He didn't leave you.
340
00:15:35,412 --> 00:15:37,202
Then where is he?
341
00:15:39,510 --> 00:15:43,219
I know how scary and confusing this is,
342
00:15:43,220 --> 00:15:45,430
but I can't lie to you... I won't.
343
00:15:47,090 --> 00:15:49,089
We don't know where he is.
344
00:15:49,090 --> 00:15:50,429
We're trying to find him,
345
00:15:50,430 --> 00:15:53,469
and I know that he wants to
see you and talk to you.
346
00:15:53,470 --> 00:15:56,549
I know how much he loves you
and misses you.
347
00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:58,839
He didn't want this to happen.
348
00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,087
I also know
349
00:16:01,088 --> 00:16:03,929
he's not going to be coming back
to this bench any time soon,
350
00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:05,299
and he'd want you to eat
351
00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:08,879
and play with this cool puzzle
that I have
352
00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,453
instead of...
353
00:16:11,050 --> 00:16:13,550
sitting in this boring hallway.
354
00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,550
Will you come back with me?
355
00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,179
No.
356
00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:37,259
- We need to take the boy.
- No.
357
00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:39,259
Ms. Krissman, you need to step aside.
358
00:16:39,260 --> 00:16:40,839
Otherwise, you will be arrested
359
00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,089
for interfering with law enforcement.
360
00:16:42,090 --> 00:16:43,839
I'm not stepping aside.
361
00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,469
I'm not gonna move.
362
00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:47,339
And I can assure you
363
00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:50,009
that arresting the irascible
and eccentric but beloved
364
00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:51,759
longtime Clerk of Court
365
00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,469
for the United States District Court
366
00:16:53,470 --> 00:16:56,049
for the Southern District of New York
367
00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:58,589
is not gonna wear well
on your service record.
368
00:16:58,590 --> 00:17:00,300
I can assure you of that.
369
00:17:01,510 --> 00:17:04,469
Now, there's another way
we can handle this.
370
00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:07,089
I can call the Chief Judge,
the child's attorney.
371
00:17:07,090 --> 00:17:10,089
This can be resolved civilly and legally,
372
00:17:10,090 --> 00:17:11,969
as if we were in a courthouse.
373
00:17:11,970 --> 00:17:15,469
Or you can do this barbarically.
374
00:17:15,470 --> 00:17:16,679
You have a job to do.
375
00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:17,879
I understand that.
376
00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:18,949
We all do.
377
00:17:18,950 --> 00:17:22,299
But this is not your job.
378
00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:34,245
I'm sorry, Ms. Krissman.
379
00:17:34,930 --> 00:17:37,680
Ms. Krissman, is there a problem?
380
00:17:38,875 --> 00:17:40,009
What's going on?
381
00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:41,969
Deputy, I'm Agent Marin with ICE.
382
00:17:41,970 --> 00:17:43,179
We need to take the child,
383
00:17:43,180 --> 00:17:45,139
and Ms. Krissman is interfering.
384
00:17:45,140 --> 00:17:47,259
I'll need to make an arrest
if she doesn't step aside.
385
00:17:47,260 --> 00:17:48,429
I'm not stepping aside.
386
00:17:48,430 --> 00:17:50,339
Then I'm placing you under arrest.
387
00:17:50,340 --> 00:17:52,179
Deputy, if you could help.
388
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,679
Now, what kind of person
would I be if I did that?
389
00:18:26,323 --> 00:18:28,282
Roger, Knox, let's go.
390
00:18:28,283 --> 00:18:29,952
Now.
391
00:18:41,953 --> 00:18:43,822
Judge?
392
00:18:53,413 --> 00:18:56,742
Well... this is a first.
393
00:18:56,743 --> 00:18:59,622
Let's have everyone
take a step back, okay?
394
00:19:01,013 --> 00:19:05,053
Ramon, son, I'd like you
to sit right over there.
395
00:19:09,973 --> 00:19:12,592
- Agent, uh...?
- Marin.
396
00:19:12,593 --> 00:19:14,802
Agent Marin.
397
00:19:14,803 --> 00:19:16,802
You need to move back. Now.
398
00:19:16,803 --> 00:19:19,262
Your Honor, respectfully,
we're not in your courtroom.
399
00:19:19,263 --> 00:19:21,092
You have no authority to direct me
400
00:19:21,093 --> 00:19:23,592
or my fellow agents to do anything.
401
00:19:23,593 --> 00:19:25,222
We're attempting to make a lawful arrest.
402
00:19:25,223 --> 00:19:27,722
You are in my courthouse.
403
00:19:27,723 --> 00:19:29,262
I'm responsible for the supervision
404
00:19:29,263 --> 00:19:31,222
of the United States District Court
405
00:19:31,223 --> 00:19:33,012
for the Southern District of New York.
406
00:19:33,013 --> 00:19:35,052
That's where we are.
That's why I am here.
407
00:19:35,053 --> 00:19:37,262
I am not a potted plant.
408
00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:38,922
And you're not going to make
an arrest right now...
409
00:19:38,923 --> 00:19:40,632
lawful or otherwise...
410
00:19:40,633 --> 00:19:42,842
because there are three men
standing right here
411
00:19:42,843 --> 00:19:45,182
with guns and badges who
aren't going to allow you
412
00:19:45,183 --> 00:19:46,592
to make an arrest.
413
00:19:46,593 --> 00:19:48,302
And I'm not gonna tell them to stand down
414
00:19:48,303 --> 00:19:50,802
until the adults here have an opportunity
415
00:19:50,803 --> 00:19:52,472
to talk this through.
416
00:19:52,473 --> 00:19:54,473
Step back.
417
00:19:59,473 --> 00:20:02,592
You don't have any authority
to direct the marshals, either.
418
00:20:02,593 --> 00:20:04,632
Marshals are under the
Department of Justice,
419
00:20:04,633 --> 00:20:06,022
not the judiciary.
420
00:20:07,683 --> 00:20:09,422
The United States Attorney
makes this call.
421
00:20:09,423 --> 00:20:10,512
Not you.
422
00:20:17,683 --> 00:20:20,472
Your Honor, can we take a second?
423
00:20:28,683 --> 00:20:29,972
Judge.
424
00:20:29,973 --> 00:20:31,722
I'm with you on this. I am.
425
00:20:31,723 --> 00:20:34,092
But we've got a serious
situation here, okay?
426
00:20:34,093 --> 00:20:36,802
We are in the Twilight Zone now.
427
00:20:36,803 --> 00:20:40,052
I can... hold these guys off
with the marshals for so long.
428
00:20:40,053 --> 00:20:41,552
I can get them to leave.
429
00:20:41,553 --> 00:20:43,182
But when this goes into Washington...
430
00:20:43,183 --> 00:20:44,842
and it will, soon...
431
00:20:44,843 --> 00:20:46,472
to the Attorney General
432
00:20:46,473 --> 00:20:49,440
and the Secretary of Homeland Security,
433
00:20:50,423 --> 00:20:53,382
we know how that is going to end.
434
00:20:59,683 --> 00:21:01,972
- Where's the boy's father?
- He was taken into custody.
435
00:21:01,973 --> 00:21:04,092
We don't know his current whereabouts.
436
00:21:04,093 --> 00:21:06,012
- You guys don't know, either?
- No.
437
00:21:06,013 --> 00:21:07,342
Nobody knows where the hell he is?
438
00:21:07,343 --> 00:21:09,592
Arizona.
439
00:21:09,593 --> 00:21:10,922
We found him.
440
00:21:10,923 --> 00:21:13,722
Merced Garcia is in Arizona.
441
00:21:13,723 --> 00:21:15,549
He's being deported.
442
00:21:19,383 --> 00:21:21,512
Thank you for coming in, Mr. Covington.
443
00:21:21,513 --> 00:21:22,842
My pleasure.
444
00:21:22,843 --> 00:21:24,302
You're entitled to have a lawyer present.
445
00:21:24,303 --> 00:21:25,362
I think I'll be okay.
446
00:21:25,363 --> 00:21:26,562
I'd like to ask you about
447
00:21:26,563 --> 00:21:28,592
the planning of this trip to Yellowstone.
448
00:21:28,593 --> 00:21:30,842
Because you'd like to know
if I did anything in New York
449
00:21:30,843 --> 00:21:32,052
in furtherance of the crime
450
00:21:32,053 --> 00:21:33,422
so you could establish venue here.
451
00:21:33,423 --> 00:21:34,682
- Yes?
- Yes.
452
00:21:34,683 --> 00:21:36,632
Very good.
453
00:21:36,633 --> 00:21:38,682
Well, Cynthia planned the trip.
454
00:21:38,683 --> 00:21:39,762
Entirely on her own?
455
00:21:39,763 --> 00:21:41,632
Yes, it was her idea.
456
00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:44,052
She bought the tickets,
she bought the guide books.
457
00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:46,262
She even bought maps.
458
00:21:46,263 --> 00:21:47,592
Maps.
459
00:21:47,593 --> 00:21:50,132
She reserved the hotel, the car.
460
00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:52,802
She even picked the hike, unfortunately.
461
00:21:52,803 --> 00:21:54,302
I'm sure you found all this
462
00:21:54,303 --> 00:21:58,370
in that very well-organized
stack of paper. What else?
463
00:21:58,371 --> 00:22:00,182
You and your wife e-mailed
one another a lot.
464
00:22:00,183 --> 00:22:02,422
- Yes.
- Even from inside the apartment.
465
00:22:02,423 --> 00:22:04,422
- Yes.
- "I heard you making food downstairs.
466
00:22:04,423 --> 00:22:06,722
Please don't leave your dirty
dishes in the sink. Arthur".
467
00:22:06,723 --> 00:22:08,592
- Uh-huh.
- "Please turn down that awful music.
468
00:22:08,593 --> 00:22:10,342
I have a deposition
in the morning. Arthur".
469
00:22:10,343 --> 00:22:11,972
I did have a deposition in the morning,
470
00:22:11,973 --> 00:22:13,182
- and the music was awful.
- Well...
471
00:22:13,183 --> 00:22:15,382
Is this really the best you can do?
472
00:22:15,383 --> 00:22:17,382
- What?
- I asked about you.
473
00:22:17,383 --> 00:22:19,842
I heard you were a rising
young star in this office
474
00:22:19,843 --> 00:22:22,012
despite the fact that you went
to the University of Virginia.
475
00:22:22,013 --> 00:22:25,223
But this is... so boring.
476
00:22:27,973 --> 00:22:30,012
You changed your family's cellphone plan
477
00:22:30,013 --> 00:22:32,182
one week before going to Yellowstone
478
00:22:32,183 --> 00:22:33,882
to a carrier with no reception
479
00:22:33,883 --> 00:22:35,922
in the area of the park
where Cynthia died
480
00:22:35,923 --> 00:22:37,632
because you didn't want her
481
00:22:37,633 --> 00:22:38,802
to be able to call for help.
482
00:22:38,803 --> 00:22:41,882
That's better! Yes.
483
00:22:41,883 --> 00:22:43,632
But I change our cellphone service
484
00:22:43,633 --> 00:22:45,052
every six months at exactly six months,
485
00:22:45,053 --> 00:22:46,092
and that's what I did here.
486
00:22:46,093 --> 00:22:47,382
Try again.
487
00:22:47,383 --> 00:22:50,132
You bought an expensive
GPS watch at the airport
488
00:22:50,133 --> 00:22:52,632
so you'd know you were in
the right area of the park
489
00:22:52,633 --> 00:22:54,472
when you pushed her over
the side of the trail.
490
00:22:54,473 --> 00:22:56,762
All right, first of all,
I don't appreciate that.
491
00:22:56,763 --> 00:22:58,052
The watch wasn't expensive.
492
00:22:58,053 --> 00:22:59,682
It was reasonably priced.
493
00:22:59,683 --> 00:23:01,592
But anyway, it was never used.
494
00:23:01,593 --> 00:23:02,802
Still in the box at home.
495
00:23:02,803 --> 00:23:05,052
Cynthia didn't like hiking.
496
00:23:05,053 --> 00:23:07,422
She didn't like the outdoors,
didn't like to fly.
497
00:23:07,423 --> 00:23:08,512
But on her own,
498
00:23:08,513 --> 00:23:10,802
she designs a trip across the country
499
00:23:10,803 --> 00:23:14,183
in order to take a perilous hike
in the backcountry?
500
00:23:17,973 --> 00:23:19,722
I've never liked the idea
501
00:23:19,723 --> 00:23:23,092
of the law as a living organism.
502
00:23:23,093 --> 00:23:25,842
Mutating, adapting to social change.
503
00:23:25,843 --> 00:23:27,422
I'm a conservative this way.
504
00:23:27,423 --> 00:23:28,922
The law is the law.
505
00:23:28,923 --> 00:23:30,802
Fixed. Immutable.
506
00:23:30,803 --> 00:23:32,382
Words with precise meanings.
507
00:23:32,383 --> 00:23:33,896
And that's good.
508
00:23:34,633 --> 00:23:37,222
But people change.
509
00:23:37,223 --> 00:23:38,922
I guess that's what Cynthia did.
510
00:23:38,923 --> 00:23:41,183
And you have the e-mails
right there to prove it.
511
00:23:43,263 --> 00:23:45,803
The trip was her idea.
512
00:23:48,303 --> 00:23:50,722
It's been a pleasure, Ms. Littlejohn.
513
00:23:50,723 --> 00:23:52,552
Thank you for stepping up.
514
00:23:52,553 --> 00:23:53,883
You changed, too.
515
00:23:57,013 --> 00:23:58,802
- How long do I have?
- I don't know.
516
00:23:58,803 --> 00:24:00,138
Until the deportation hearing?
517
00:24:00,139 --> 00:24:02,802
Tina, I don't know.
518
00:24:02,803 --> 00:24:04,722
They could come back anytime.
519
00:24:04,723 --> 00:24:06,512
If the marshals are ordered
to stand down from Justice,
520
00:24:06,513 --> 00:24:08,132
there's nothing I can do.
521
00:24:08,133 --> 00:24:10,882
For him or for you.
522
00:24:10,883 --> 00:24:14,552
You will lose your job
if you push this too far.
523
00:24:14,553 --> 00:24:15,802
Jill is sending someone to Arizona.
524
00:24:15,803 --> 00:24:17,133
Maybe that helps.
525
00:24:19,133 --> 00:24:21,382
I know how important this is to you.
526
00:24:21,383 --> 00:24:23,112
I feel that.
527
00:24:24,343 --> 00:24:25,923
But take the long view.
528
00:24:31,763 --> 00:24:33,434
How long do you take the long view
529
00:24:33,435 --> 00:24:35,788
before you can't see the little things
530
00:24:35,789 --> 00:24:37,513
in front of you anymore?
531
00:24:56,053 --> 00:24:57,552
- Covington?
- Yes.
532
00:24:57,553 --> 00:24:59,222
I heard.
533
00:24:59,223 --> 00:25:00,472
He's gonna get away with it.
534
00:25:00,473 --> 00:25:02,092
- A lot of people do.
- Not like this.
535
00:25:02,093 --> 00:25:05,262
He's using the law to commit a crime.
536
00:25:05,263 --> 00:25:06,472
It's a puzzle to him.
537
00:25:06,473 --> 00:25:08,512
A parlor game. An LSAT problem.
538
00:25:08,513 --> 00:25:10,052
And I'm here,
539
00:25:10,053 --> 00:25:11,682
and I should be able to catch him,
540
00:25:11,683 --> 00:25:13,682
and I can't.
541
00:25:13,683 --> 00:25:16,165
And I aced the LSAT.
542
00:25:17,013 --> 00:25:19,012
This is not what the law
is supposed to be.
543
00:25:19,013 --> 00:25:20,794
What's the law supposed to be?
544
00:25:21,683 --> 00:25:23,672
I ask that in all seriousness.
545
00:25:24,133 --> 00:25:26,722
Isn't it supposed to protect
a seven-year-old boy?
546
00:25:26,723 --> 00:25:28,722
The law is an amazing thing.
547
00:25:28,723 --> 00:25:29,829
It's a powerful thing.
548
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:31,922
It is also incomplete.
549
00:25:31,923 --> 00:25:33,422
Sometimes incomprehensible.
550
00:25:33,423 --> 00:25:37,311
And right now, apparently,
totally messed up.
551
00:25:37,843 --> 00:25:40,314
So... that's us.
552
00:25:40,683 --> 00:25:42,232
Into the breach.
553
00:25:45,383 --> 00:25:47,946
Maybe you're approaching
this the wrong way.
554
00:25:48,513 --> 00:25:50,012
You are the smartest person I know.
555
00:25:50,013 --> 00:25:53,342
You are also the most human.
556
00:25:53,343 --> 00:25:56,422
That's not something I hear... a lot.
557
00:25:56,423 --> 00:25:57,882
If Covington made a mistake...
558
00:25:57,883 --> 00:25:59,342
and he did, somewhere, somehow...
559
00:25:59,343 --> 00:26:01,382
it's not because he wasn't being smart,
560
00:26:01,383 --> 00:26:03,754
it's because he wasn't
thinking like a human being.
561
00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,382
Don't try to outmaneuver him.
562
00:26:05,383 --> 00:26:06,673
Just...
563
00:26:08,303 --> 00:26:10,262
be you.
564
00:26:10,263 --> 00:26:13,842
Flesh, and blood, and beating heart.
565
00:26:24,723 --> 00:26:26,132
Mr. Garcia.
566
00:26:26,133 --> 00:26:28,682
My name is Sandra. This is Ted.
567
00:26:28,683 --> 00:26:31,012
We're from the Federal Public
Defender in New York.
568
00:26:31,013 --> 00:26:32,302
In New York?
569
00:26:32,303 --> 00:26:33,263
Yes.
570
00:26:33,264 --> 00:26:34,592
I have a son.
571
00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,472
- Ramon.
- Yes.
572
00:26:36,473 --> 00:26:37,722
He's okay.
573
00:26:37,723 --> 00:26:39,383
D-Do you know where he is?
574
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,592
He's in the courthouse. In New York.
575
00:26:42,593 --> 00:26:44,837
C-Can I talk to him?
576
00:26:46,013 --> 00:26:47,762
They won't allow that right now.
577
00:26:47,763 --> 00:26:48,723
I tried.
578
00:26:48,724 --> 00:26:50,759
W-We will try again.
579
00:26:53,134 --> 00:26:55,422
I'm sorry.
580
00:26:56,723 --> 00:26:59,222
I want to ask you a few
questions, Mr. Garcia.
581
00:26:59,223 --> 00:27:01,012
For your hearing.
582
00:27:01,013 --> 00:27:03,647
I will represent you in your
deportation hearing, okay?
583
00:27:06,053 --> 00:27:08,592
When did you come into the United States?
584
00:27:08,593 --> 00:27:09,778
Two years ago.
585
00:27:09,779 --> 00:27:11,238
Mm-hmm.
586
00:27:11,683 --> 00:27:13,092
Are you employed?
587
00:27:13,093 --> 00:27:15,473
Yes, I-I work as a delivery driver.
588
00:27:17,973 --> 00:27:19,663
Are you married?
589
00:27:20,473 --> 00:27:22,875
No, my... my wife passed away.
590
00:27:29,473 --> 00:27:32,422
Does Ramon have any brothers or sisters?
591
00:27:32,423 --> 00:27:33,724
No.
592
00:27:33,725 --> 00:27:36,422
Does Ramon have any
specific medical conditions
593
00:27:36,423 --> 00:27:37,423
we should know about?
594
00:27:37,424 --> 00:27:38,882
No.
595
00:27:39,973 --> 00:27:41,263
No.
596
00:27:46,093 --> 00:27:48,512
Oh, no.
597
00:27:48,513 --> 00:27:50,262
Mijo...
598
00:27:50,263 --> 00:27:51,552
Mijo.
599
00:27:52,973 --> 00:27:54,013
Mijo.
600
00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,842
Okay, Mr. Garcia.
601
00:27:59,843 --> 00:28:02,013
I want you to try to get some sleep.
602
00:28:19,183 --> 00:28:20,599
Do you me to lie down with you?
603
00:28:23,183 --> 00:28:24,552
Okay.
604
00:28:31,803 --> 00:28:36,472
When my son was about your age,
605
00:28:36,473 --> 00:28:41,512
I used to read him a story
called "Amos & Boris."
606
00:28:41,513 --> 00:28:43,382
- Do you know it?
- No.
607
00:28:43,383 --> 00:28:45,342
Well, it's a fine story
608
00:28:45,343 --> 00:28:50,802
about the unlikely friendship
between a mouse and a whale.
609
00:28:50,803 --> 00:28:53,552
They became friends because one day,
610
00:28:53,553 --> 00:28:56,302
the little mouse decided
he wanted to build a boat,
611
00:28:56,303 --> 00:28:59,092
and he did, he built a boat,
612
00:28:59,093 --> 00:29:01,382
and then he sailed the little boat
613
00:29:01,383 --> 00:29:03,972
deep into the sea,
614
00:29:03,973 --> 00:29:07,592
and then one day,
he fell off of the boat,
615
00:29:07,593 --> 00:29:10,762
and the whale saved him.
616
00:29:10,763 --> 00:29:12,302
And for seven days,
617
00:29:12,303 --> 00:29:14,382
the mouse lived on the back of the whale,
618
00:29:14,383 --> 00:29:15,882
and they talked and ate,
619
00:29:15,883 --> 00:29:18,722
and the mouse ran up and down
the back of the whale,
620
00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:21,922
and they became great friends.
621
00:29:21,923 --> 00:29:23,342
The whale, Boris,
622
00:29:23,343 --> 00:29:25,882
finally dropped the mouse off
on the beach,
623
00:29:25,883 --> 00:29:29,092
and they thought they'd never
see each other again.
624
00:29:29,093 --> 00:29:31,211
But years later,
625
00:29:32,093 --> 00:29:34,881
the whale got caught up
in a great big storm
626
00:29:35,513 --> 00:29:38,882
and he ended up stranded on the beach,
627
00:29:38,883 --> 00:29:43,342
and the mouse, Amos, found him,
628
00:29:43,343 --> 00:29:46,472
and they remembered each other,
of course,
629
00:29:46,473 --> 00:29:51,422
and the mouse, with the help
of two friendly elephants,
630
00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:57,592
the mouse pushed the whale
back into the sea.
631
00:30:04,133 --> 00:30:06,371
And they were very sad
632
00:30:08,692 --> 00:30:10,982
because they had to say goodbye again.
633
00:30:14,093 --> 00:30:18,682
But happy because they knew
they would be friends forever.
634
00:30:18,683 --> 00:30:23,262
They knew they would never
forget each other.
635
00:30:29,923 --> 00:30:31,875
"I have a deposition in
the morning. Arthur."
636
00:30:31,876 --> 00:30:35,330
"I told you. I don't like soup. Arthur."
637
00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:37,774
"I would like to have sex
this morning after breakfast.
638
00:30:37,775 --> 00:30:39,404
Ar... thur."
639
00:30:39,405 --> 00:30:41,154
- Not my business.
- Arthur would like to have sex
640
00:30:41,155 --> 00:30:42,194
this morning after breakfast.
641
00:30:42,195 --> 00:30:43,564
If it works for the two of you...
642
00:30:43,565 --> 00:30:46,564
Arthur! It's an e-mail
from Arthur Covington.
643
00:30:46,565 --> 00:30:48,564
I really wouldn't get involved with him.
644
00:30:48,565 --> 00:30:50,654
- Look what happened to his wife.
- This is his e-mail!
645
00:30:50,655 --> 00:30:52,694
He signs all of his e-mails "Arthur."
646
00:30:52,695 --> 00:30:55,921
Arthur, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur...
647
00:30:57,445 --> 00:30:58,904
Arthur!
648
00:30:58,905 --> 00:31:00,904
Mr. Covington, you have agreed to appear
649
00:31:00,905 --> 00:31:03,774
before this federal Grand Jury
voluntarily, correct?
650
00:31:03,775 --> 00:31:05,904
- Yes.
- And you are aware, Mr. Covington,
651
00:31:05,905 --> 00:31:07,854
that we are investigating
the circumstances
652
00:31:07,855 --> 00:31:09,614
of the death of your wife, Cynthia,
653
00:31:09,615 --> 00:31:12,194
- in Yellowstone National Park, correct?
- Yes.
654
00:31:12,195 --> 00:31:14,848
Whose idea was it to take
this trip to Yellowstone?
655
00:31:14,849 --> 00:31:15,934
Cynthia's.
656
00:31:15,935 --> 00:31:18,064
And do you recall how
or when she raised the idea?
657
00:31:18,065 --> 00:31:19,854
She sent me an e-mail about it.
658
00:31:19,855 --> 00:31:22,314
I don't know the exact date.
659
00:31:22,315 --> 00:31:24,444
I want to direct your attention
to this e-mail,
660
00:31:24,445 --> 00:31:26,774
which I will mark as Exhibit 1.
661
00:31:26,775 --> 00:31:29,524
"Honey, why don't we go to Yellowstone?
662
00:31:29,525 --> 00:31:31,194
For our anniversary?
663
00:31:31,195 --> 00:31:33,234
I've always wanted to see it.
664
00:31:33,235 --> 00:31:34,314
Can we do it?
665
00:31:34,315 --> 00:31:36,314
Cynthia."
666
00:31:36,315 --> 00:31:38,271
Is this the e-mail that
you are referring to?
667
00:31:38,296 --> 00:31:39,484
Yes.
668
00:31:39,485 --> 00:31:41,694
Now, you and Cynthia regularly
corresponded by e-mail.
669
00:31:41,695 --> 00:31:43,194
- Is that correct?
- Yes.
670
00:31:43,195 --> 00:31:44,944
Even for regular, day-to-day activities?
671
00:31:44,945 --> 00:31:47,774
- Y-Yes.
- So, for example...
672
00:31:47,775 --> 00:31:49,564
"I heard the doorbell downstairs,
673
00:31:49,565 --> 00:31:51,024
if there's a package for me,
674
00:31:51,025 --> 00:31:53,654
please leave it outside my bedroom door.
675
00:31:53,655 --> 00:31:54,984
Arthur."
676
00:31:54,985 --> 00:31:56,564
You wrote that?
677
00:31:56,565 --> 00:31:58,024
Yes.
678
00:31:58,025 --> 00:31:59,904
So, in your mind, there's nothing unusual
679
00:31:59,905 --> 00:32:02,444
about the e-mail Cynthia sent to you
680
00:32:02,445 --> 00:32:04,354
proposing the trip to Yellowstone?
681
00:32:04,355 --> 00:32:06,774
It's, um...
682
00:32:06,775 --> 00:32:09,654
Well, uh, it is written in Comic Sans,
683
00:32:09,655 --> 00:32:11,524
but that was Cynthia's favorite font.
684
00:32:11,525 --> 00:32:14,114
In fact, Mr. Covington,
685
00:32:14,115 --> 00:32:16,024
the e-mail Cynthia allegedly sent you
686
00:32:16,025 --> 00:32:17,524
proposing the Yellowstone trip
687
00:32:17,525 --> 00:32:19,404
is highly unusual, is it not,
688
00:32:19,405 --> 00:32:21,354
because that e-mail
689
00:32:21,355 --> 00:32:25,354
is the only e-mail of the 1,162 e-mails
690
00:32:25,355 --> 00:32:27,854
sent from Cynthia's account to you
691
00:32:27,855 --> 00:32:30,814
in which she signed her name?
692
00:32:30,815 --> 00:32:32,694
I don't see any significance in that.
693
00:32:32,695 --> 00:32:35,154
You signed your name to every e-mail
694
00:32:35,155 --> 00:32:37,114
- you wrote to Cynthia, right?
- Y-Yes.
695
00:32:37,115 --> 00:32:38,944
And she never signed her name
696
00:32:38,945 --> 00:32:40,984
to any e-mail she wrote to you
697
00:32:40,985 --> 00:32:42,441
except for the one e-mail
698
00:32:42,442 --> 00:32:43,861
in which she proposed taking the trip
699
00:32:43,862 --> 00:32:45,161
on which she was killed.
700
00:32:45,162 --> 00:32:46,854
I think the significance of that
701
00:32:46,855 --> 00:32:48,354
is that you wrote that e-mail.
702
00:32:48,355 --> 00:32:50,510
- That's not true!
- No?
703
00:32:50,511 --> 00:32:53,154
We checked Cynthia's cell tower records,
704
00:32:53,155 --> 00:32:55,194
and she was nowhere near
her home computer
705
00:32:55,195 --> 00:32:56,653
when this e-mail was sent.
706
00:32:56,654 --> 00:32:57,851
But you were.
707
00:32:58,577 --> 00:33:00,944
Isn't it true, Mr. Covington,
708
00:33:00,945 --> 00:33:03,154
that you planned to murder your wife
709
00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:05,944
in a place where you knew
you could never be prosecuted?
710
00:33:05,945 --> 00:33:07,484
No.
711
00:33:07,485 --> 00:33:09,114
That you knew the only way
712
00:33:09,115 --> 00:33:10,854
you could be prosecuted for the crime
713
00:33:10,855 --> 00:33:12,354
was if there was evidence
714
00:33:12,355 --> 00:33:14,412
you planned the crime
from somewhere else.
715
00:33:14,413 --> 00:33:15,500
No.
716
00:33:15,525 --> 00:33:17,854
That in order to remove
any doubt that you
717
00:33:17,855 --> 00:33:20,354
did not plan this trip to Yellowstone
718
00:33:20,355 --> 00:33:23,734
in order to murder your wife,
you logged on to her computer
719
00:33:23,735 --> 00:33:26,524
and e-mailed the suggestion to yourself.
720
00:33:26,525 --> 00:33:28,484
But you made a mistake, didn't you?
721
00:33:28,485 --> 00:33:30,194
You signed her name.
722
00:33:30,195 --> 00:33:33,024
You forgot, or maybe you
never even realized
723
00:33:33,025 --> 00:33:36,484
that normal people
who write normal e-mails
724
00:33:36,485 --> 00:33:37,654
to their loved ones
725
00:33:37,655 --> 00:33:40,877
don't sign their name every single time.
726
00:33:43,025 --> 00:33:45,683
I like words with precise meanings, too,
727
00:33:45,684 --> 00:33:47,256
so listen carefully, Arthur...
728
00:33:47,257 --> 00:33:52,234
You are going to need a lawyer.
729
00:33:59,235 --> 00:34:01,505
Your Honor, Sandra Bell
on behalf of Mr. Garcia.
730
00:34:01,506 --> 00:34:02,571
Leslie Hammond
731
00:34:02,572 --> 00:34:04,363
for Immigration and
Customs Enforcement, Your Honor.
732
00:34:04,364 --> 00:34:05,904
- Ms. Bell.
- Thank you, Your Honor.
733
00:34:05,905 --> 00:34:07,274
We are asking for bond for Mr. Garcia
734
00:34:07,275 --> 00:34:09,114
in the amount of $1,500.
735
00:34:09,115 --> 00:34:11,024
Mr. Garcia has no prior arrests
in the United States,
736
00:34:11,025 --> 00:34:12,694
no arrests or criminal
convictions in Guatemala.
737
00:34:12,695 --> 00:34:14,444
He was a cooperating witness
738
00:34:14,445 --> 00:34:15,904
in a federal prosecution in New York.
739
00:34:15,905 --> 00:34:18,234
He appeared in that case voluntarily.
740
00:34:18,235 --> 00:34:20,984
Mr. Garcia is the sole caretaker
of his seven-year-old son.
741
00:34:20,985 --> 00:34:22,904
Mr. Garcia poses no threat
to the community,
742
00:34:22,905 --> 00:34:25,404
- he's not a flight risk...
- He is a flight risk, Your Honor,
743
00:34:25,405 --> 00:34:27,064
because he has no plausible
relief from deportation,
744
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,944
and therefore, no incentive to reappear.
745
00:34:28,945 --> 00:34:30,484
He has every incentive to reappear
746
00:34:30,485 --> 00:34:32,234
because he not only has a plausible case
747
00:34:32,235 --> 00:34:33,274
for relief from deportation,
748
00:34:33,275 --> 00:34:34,484
he has a strong case.
749
00:34:34,485 --> 00:34:35,694
And he wants to make that case,
750
00:34:35,695 --> 00:34:36,854
and he will make that case.
751
00:34:36,855 --> 00:34:37,944
I will make that case.
752
00:34:37,945 --> 00:34:39,354
But this is a bond hearing.
753
00:34:39,355 --> 00:34:40,564
And factors for bond
754
00:34:40,565 --> 00:34:42,923
are threat to the community
and flight risk,
755
00:34:42,924 --> 00:34:44,043
and there is nothing
in Mr. Garcia's record that...
756
00:34:44,044 --> 00:34:45,191
Thank you, Ms. Bell.
757
00:34:45,985 --> 00:34:47,734
Bond is denied.
758
00:34:47,735 --> 00:34:49,274
You can call the next case.
759
00:34:49,275 --> 00:34:50,984
Your Honor, Mr. Garcia...
760
00:34:50,985 --> 00:34:52,694
I've issued my ruling, Ms. Bell.
761
00:34:52,695 --> 00:34:54,234
Mr. Garcia has a son
762
00:34:54,235 --> 00:34:56,064
who will be separated from his father...
763
00:34:56,065 --> 00:34:58,654
Then Mr. Garcia should've
thought about that
764
00:34:58,655 --> 00:35:02,694
when he crossed over the border
illegally with his child.
765
00:35:02,695 --> 00:35:05,354
I've issued my ruling. Bond is denied.
766
00:35:05,355 --> 00:35:06,814
One more word out of you
767
00:35:06,815 --> 00:35:08,354
and I will hold you
in contempt, Ms. Bell.
768
00:35:08,355 --> 00:35:09,525
One more word.
769
00:35:12,275 --> 00:35:13,905
One more word.
770
00:35:16,815 --> 00:35:18,314
Call the next case.
771
00:35:21,956 --> 00:35:24,791
I've complained to ICE,
to the Secretary directly.
772
00:35:24,816 --> 00:35:26,394
We can hope this won't happen again,
773
00:35:26,419 --> 00:35:27,458
but we're at the end of the line now.
774
00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:28,459
You can make a call...
775
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:30,458
The call has been made, Roger.
776
00:35:30,459 --> 00:35:32,838
It has come in. From Washington.
777
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:34,048
This needs to be cleaned up.
778
00:35:34,049 --> 00:35:35,508
They're not gonna have a standoff
779
00:35:35,509 --> 00:35:36,919
in the courthouse anymore.
780
00:35:38,799 --> 00:35:41,008
They're going to take the boy.
781
00:35:41,009 --> 00:35:42,958
Then it won't just be the boy.
782
00:35:48,629 --> 00:35:50,131
They're on their way?
783
00:35:51,739 --> 00:35:53,279
Soon.
784
00:35:55,009 --> 00:35:57,718
I don't understand what's happening here.
785
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,265
What country is this?
786
00:36:00,339 --> 00:36:01,548
This is America.
787
00:36:01,549 --> 00:36:03,687
This is not the America I know.
788
00:36:04,089 --> 00:36:06,218
When I came here with my family,
789
00:36:06,219 --> 00:36:07,718
we had nothing, and we struggled,
790
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,718
but we built a life here,
and we were welcome here.
791
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,008
For years, my dad kept this
little picture of Ronald Reagan
792
00:36:14,009 --> 00:36:17,236
above our kitchen table,
with these quotes from him.
793
00:36:17,237 --> 00:36:18,838
About immigrants.
794
00:36:18,839 --> 00:36:20,758
"These families came here to work.
795
00:36:20,759 --> 00:36:22,508
They came to build.
796
00:36:22,509 --> 00:36:24,918
They brought with them courage, ambition,
797
00:36:24,919 --> 00:36:28,548
and the values of family."
798
00:36:28,549 --> 00:36:30,463
That is the America I know.
799
00:36:33,009 --> 00:36:36,636
I am an immigrant.
I am the child of immigrants.
800
00:36:38,365 --> 00:36:39,945
We were welcome here.
801
00:36:41,459 --> 00:36:43,810
And today you probably wouldn't be.
802
00:36:45,549 --> 00:36:47,439
This is America.
803
00:36:47,959 --> 00:36:50,548
It expands and it contracts.
804
00:36:50,549 --> 00:36:53,298
Advances and recedes.
805
00:36:53,299 --> 00:36:56,740
Opens and closes.
806
00:36:57,509 --> 00:36:59,668
This is a country birthed in freedom
807
00:36:59,669 --> 00:37:01,718
and built on slavery.
808
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,913
Separating families?
809
00:37:05,219 --> 00:37:09,627
They separated black families
in America for 250 years.
810
00:37:10,509 --> 00:37:15,008
What makes this feel so bad now
is that we expect more.
811
00:37:15,009 --> 00:37:16,628
And that's a good thing.
812
00:37:16,629 --> 00:37:18,878
This pain is progress.
813
00:37:18,879 --> 00:37:23,878
But do not forget who we are
and where we came from.
814
00:37:23,879 --> 00:37:27,718
I do not forget where I came from.
815
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,878
I grew up in West Baltimore,
816
00:37:29,879 --> 00:37:31,895
around the corner from where
Justice Marshall grew up.
817
00:37:31,896 --> 00:37:35,695
This Justice Marshall.
818
00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:38,088
He knew my father.
819
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:40,408
He stood in my living room.
820
00:37:41,299 --> 00:37:43,008
The elementary school I went to,
Mt. Royal,
821
00:37:43,009 --> 00:37:44,088
I went to because of him.
822
00:37:44,089 --> 00:37:50,048
I'm here because of him.
823
00:37:50,049 --> 00:37:52,718
He was the grandson of a slave,
824
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,008
and he changed American law.
825
00:37:55,009 --> 00:37:58,168
He changed the very idea
of the Constitution!
826
00:37:58,169 --> 00:38:00,258
He made a document
827
00:38:00,259 --> 00:38:03,508
that considered him three-fifths of a man
828
00:38:03,509 --> 00:38:05,508
a document of liberation.
829
00:38:05,509 --> 00:38:09,020
This is the America I know.
830
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:13,919
A beacon and a curse.
831
00:38:14,442 --> 00:38:16,258
Light and darkness.
832
00:38:16,259 --> 00:38:17,918
Hope and despair.
833
00:38:23,219 --> 00:38:25,419
This is America right now.
834
00:38:28,419 --> 00:38:32,298
But America never ends.
835
00:38:43,219 --> 00:38:45,048
Mr. Knox.
836
00:38:45,049 --> 00:38:47,933
- This isn't what we agreed to.
- What?
837
00:38:47,934 --> 00:38:49,418
Mr. Boyd's gun possession
not being considered
838
00:38:49,419 --> 00:38:51,392
"relevant conduct" under
the sentencing guidelines.
839
00:38:51,393 --> 00:38:53,258
I specifically said "no" to that.
840
00:38:53,259 --> 00:38:55,918
- That's not what I remember.
- Yes, it is.
841
00:38:55,919 --> 00:38:57,218
You're just trying to reopen the deal
842
00:38:57,219 --> 00:38:58,378
by misrepresenting the conversation,
843
00:38:58,379 --> 00:39:01,008
hoping you can do just a
little bit better this time,
844
00:39:01,009 --> 00:39:02,258
but I'm not in the mood for that,
845
00:39:02,259 --> 00:39:03,718
and if you want to press me on it,
846
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,128
I will withdraw the offer
and we will go to trial.
847
00:39:06,129 --> 00:39:07,799
Do you want to press me on it?
848
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,169
You waited too long.
The offer is withdrawn.
849
00:39:20,299 --> 00:39:21,458
You want me to bring him back?
850
00:39:21,459 --> 00:39:22,668
I need him as a witness.
851
00:39:22,669 --> 00:39:23,629
That case is over.
852
00:39:23,630 --> 00:39:24,799
The plea deal fell apart.
853
00:39:25,919 --> 00:39:28,718
The plea deal fell apart. I...
854
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,958
I am trying this case.
855
00:39:29,959 --> 00:39:32,168
I'm going to try it,
and I'm going to win.
856
00:39:32,169 --> 00:39:33,548
I will win.
857
00:39:33,549 --> 00:39:35,418
And since Merced Garcia
is a material witness,
858
00:39:35,419 --> 00:39:36,798
after I win,
859
00:39:36,799 --> 00:39:39,218
you can take your time
sentencing Mr. Boyd,
860
00:39:39,219 --> 00:39:40,958
and Merced will have to be here
for as long as that takes.
861
00:39:40,959 --> 00:39:42,378
It could be years,
862
00:39:42,379 --> 00:39:44,298
and you can order ICE not to take Ramon
863
00:39:44,299 --> 00:39:45,508
because you have determined
864
00:39:45,509 --> 00:39:47,218
that it's essential
to Merced's well-being
865
00:39:47,219 --> 00:39:48,838
not to be separated from his son.
866
00:39:48,839 --> 00:39:51,918
And it is within your
supervisory powers as a Judge
867
00:39:51,919 --> 00:39:54,709
to care for witnesses in this way.
868
00:39:55,419 --> 00:39:58,879
Those are your indisputable,
inviolable powers.
869
00:40:01,169 --> 00:40:02,919
This is what I'm going to do.
870
00:40:04,589 --> 00:40:07,138
It's not my case, Mr. Knox.
871
00:40:08,509 --> 00:40:10,308
Then take it.
872
00:40:11,129 --> 00:40:13,561
Go to Judge Reed and take it.
873
00:40:15,089 --> 00:40:17,168
Because you can do that, too.
874
00:40:42,549 --> 00:40:44,128
Mr. Garcia, sir?
875
00:40:49,669 --> 00:40:52,508
It has been an honor
876
00:40:52,509 --> 00:40:56,299
to have you here
in my office, Mr. Garcia.
877
00:40:56,843 --> 00:40:59,088
Wherever you go.
878
00:40:59,089 --> 00:41:03,298
Wherever you go.
879
00:41:03,299 --> 00:41:05,905
You have a home here.
880
00:41:06,299 --> 00:41:07,668
You are a child,
881
00:41:07,669 --> 00:41:11,299
you are a beautiful boy,
882
00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:13,878
and you are welcome here.
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