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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,072 --> 00:00:33,450 (insects chirping) 2 00:00:40,791 --> 00:00:42,835 (country music playing faintly) 3 00:00:43,669 --> 00:00:45,128 WOMAN: Whoo! 4 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:48,590 ♪ I'm tired of going 5 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:48,590 round and round ♪ 6 00:00:50,843 --> 00:00:54,471 ♪ I've played the game of love 7 00:00:50,843 --> 00:00:54,471 and lost ♪ 8 00:00:56,264 --> 00:00:58,851 ♪ So stop the world 9 00:00:56,264 --> 00:00:58,851 and let me off ♪ 10 00:00:58,893 --> 00:01:00,310 (people singing along to song) 11 00:01:00,352 --> 00:01:01,896 MAN: Whoo! Let me off! 12 00:01:01,937 --> 00:01:06,316 ♪ My dreams are shattered, 13 00:01:01,937 --> 00:01:06,316 don't you see? ♪ 14 00:01:07,526 --> 00:01:11,739 ♪ 'Cause you no longer 15 00:01:07,526 --> 00:01:11,739 care for me ♪ 16 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:13,114 MAN: You don't care for me! 17 00:01:13,156 --> 00:01:16,326 ♪ I miss the wonder 18 00:01:13,156 --> 00:01:16,326 of your kiss ♪ 19 00:01:18,495 --> 00:01:22,249 ♪ How could you leave 20 00:01:18,495 --> 00:01:22,249 me here like this ♪ 21 00:01:24,334 --> 00:01:27,462 ♪ Stop the world 22 00:01:24,334 --> 00:01:27,462 and let me off ♪ 23 00:01:29,757 --> 00:01:31,508 ♪ I'm tired of going 24 00:01:29,757 --> 00:01:31,508 round and round ♪ 25 00:01:31,550 --> 00:01:32,718 WOMAN: Whoo! 26 00:01:36,972 --> 00:01:39,433 (song continues playing) 27 00:01:40,559 --> 00:01:42,937 ♪ So stop the world 28 00:01:40,559 --> 00:01:42,937 and let me off ♪ 29 00:01:42,978 --> 00:01:44,855 (indistinct conversation) 30 00:01:47,399 --> 00:01:48,776 (music stops) 31 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:53,989 MAN: I'll give you a boost 32 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:53,989 if you want. 33 00:01:54,031 --> 00:01:55,198 LAURA: I don't need your help. 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,158 KEITH: Ooh, hell, 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,158 she got you, buddy. 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,244 (Laura grunts) 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,244 LAURA: Toss them beers. 38 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:01,872 KEITH: Here you go. You got it? 39 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:01,872 LAURA: Okay, let's go! 40 00:02:01,914 --> 00:02:04,291 KEITH: All right. All right. 41 00:02:05,042 --> 00:02:06,585 MAN: Hold up! Hold up! The beer. 42 00:02:06,627 --> 00:02:08,378 KEITH: Take this. 43 00:02:06,627 --> 00:02:08,378 Take this. Come on. 44 00:02:09,964 --> 00:02:11,506 These damn shoes! 45 00:02:17,429 --> 00:02:19,556 (indistinct chatter) 46 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:30,651 -Whoo! Come on in, it's warm! 47 00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:30,651 -Come on, buddy! 48 00:02:32,611 --> 00:02:34,404 Look, you can even 49 00:02:32,611 --> 00:02:34,404 wash your hair! 50 00:02:34,446 --> 00:02:35,823 (both laugh) 51 00:02:35,864 --> 00:02:37,365 I washed mine last month. 52 00:02:38,408 --> 00:02:40,035 (both continue laughing) 53 00:02:40,911 --> 00:02:42,830 (indistinct chatter) 54 00:02:46,583 --> 00:02:49,461 Laura, Keith, come here! 55 00:02:46,583 --> 00:02:49,461 Look what I found. 56 00:02:49,503 --> 00:02:50,712 -Holy shit. 57 00:02:49,503 --> 00:02:50,712 KEITH: What the hell's that? 58 00:02:50,754 --> 00:02:51,797 LAURA: What is it? 59 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:53,132 WORKER: The hell you doing? 60 00:02:53,172 --> 00:02:54,883 Get out of here now! 61 00:02:54,925 --> 00:02:57,218 LAURA: Geez! 62 00:02:54,925 --> 00:02:57,218 KEITH: Come on! 63 00:03:01,056 --> 00:03:02,516 WORKER: Goddamn kids. 64 00:03:02,557 --> 00:03:04,476 (indistinct chatter) 65 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:21,869 Turn off the beam, fool! 66 00:03:26,707 --> 00:03:29,208 (soft music) 67 00:04:30,687 --> 00:04:33,690 TOM: ...Steve from Dow, 68 00:04:30,687 --> 00:04:33,690 Ted from Union Carbide... 69 00:04:33,732 --> 00:04:36,526 Jerry from Exxon 70 00:04:33,732 --> 00:04:36,526 and Andy from Allied. 71 00:04:37,485 --> 00:04:39,613 Welcome to Taft Law, gentlemen. 72 00:04:40,989 --> 00:04:43,700 Before we get started, 73 00:04:40,989 --> 00:04:43,700 a little housekeeping. 74 00:04:43,742 --> 00:04:47,454 All of you know this young man 75 00:04:43,742 --> 00:04:47,454 as the dedicated Taft associate 76 00:04:47,495 --> 00:04:49,372 who for the past eight years 77 00:04:49,414 --> 00:04:52,251 has buried himself 78 00:04:49,414 --> 00:04:52,251 in the Superfund law. 79 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:53,710 I'm not paying 80 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:53,710 for that clean-up. 81 00:04:53,752 --> 00:04:55,629 (all chuckle) 82 00:04:53,752 --> 00:04:55,629 -Still it is my pleasure 83 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:57,297 to share with you 84 00:04:57,338 --> 00:05:00,341 that just last week Rob Bilott 85 00:04:57,338 --> 00:05:00,341 was welcomed as a partner... 86 00:05:00,383 --> 00:05:03,137 here at Taft, 87 00:05:00,383 --> 00:05:03,137 Stettinius & Hollister. 88 00:05:03,178 --> 00:05:06,265 (clapping) 89 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:09,350 Good morning. Taft Law. 90 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:09,350 One moment. I'll connect you. 91 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:13,647 Good morning. Taft Law. 92 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:15,732 One moment, please. 93 00:05:15,774 --> 00:05:17,901 (indistinct chatter) 94 00:05:19,653 --> 00:05:22,447 It's the Governor's office 95 00:05:19,653 --> 00:05:22,447 calling for, um... 96 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:24,032 Calling for Mr Burke. 97 00:05:26,868 --> 00:05:28,203 May I help you? 98 00:05:28,245 --> 00:05:31,081 Wilbur Tennant callin' 99 00:05:28,245 --> 00:05:31,081 on Robbie Bilott. 100 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:32,958 ROB: EPA has saddled them 101 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:32,958 with the whole bill 102 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,043 and given your client's history 103 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,043 at that site, 104 00:05:35,085 --> 00:05:36,795 that's a real possibility. 105 00:05:37,212 --> 00:05:38,922 DOW LAWYER: I'll take it 106 00:05:37,212 --> 00:05:38,922 back to them. 107 00:05:38,964 --> 00:05:41,216 TOM: Good. Tab 12, Middletown... 108 00:05:41,258 --> 00:05:45,304 KATHLEEN: I know. I'm sorry. 109 00:05:41,258 --> 00:05:45,304 But they won't leave. 110 00:05:45,344 --> 00:05:48,015 ROB: Who's they? 111 00:05:45,344 --> 00:05:48,015 -I don't know. 112 00:05:48,056 --> 00:05:49,599 They say they know you. 113 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:56,355 Robbie Bilott? 114 00:05:56,397 --> 00:05:59,526 Um... Yes. 115 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:03,905 They call it a landfill. 116 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:03,905 A dump's what it is. 117 00:06:03,947 --> 00:06:06,867 They told my brother and me 118 00:06:03,947 --> 00:06:06,867 no chemicals, just trash. 119 00:06:06,908 --> 00:06:08,367 But we ain't stupid. 120 00:06:08,409 --> 00:06:11,038 I made them videotapes myself. 121 00:06:08,409 --> 00:06:11,038 All the proof you need. 122 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:13,040 They're poisonin' the creek, 123 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:13,040 killin' my animals. 124 00:06:13,081 --> 00:06:14,249 I'm in the middle of a meeting. 125 00:06:14,291 --> 00:06:15,500 WILBUR: So I want a lawyer. 126 00:06:15,542 --> 00:06:16,626 Every damn one in Parkersburg's 127 00:06:16,668 --> 00:06:17,752 too yella to take my case. 128 00:06:17,794 --> 00:06:19,587 Rob. He wants you back in there. 129 00:06:19,629 --> 00:06:21,422 WILBUR: They all scared 130 00:06:19,629 --> 00:06:21,422 shitless a' DuPont. 131 00:06:21,464 --> 00:06:22,841 Well, I ain't scared of nobody. 132 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:24,551 Okay. Kathleen is my paralegal. 133 00:06:24,592 --> 00:06:26,678 She's gonna give you 134 00:06:24,592 --> 00:06:26,678 a directory of lawyers. 135 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,347 That's why I called 136 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,347 your grandma. 137 00:06:30,140 --> 00:06:31,350 What? 138 00:06:31,390 --> 00:06:34,102 My neighbour who tells me, 139 00:06:31,390 --> 00:06:34,102 "Call Alma White. 140 00:06:34,144 --> 00:06:35,603 Her grandson's some fancy 141 00:06:35,645 --> 00:06:37,564 environment lawyer 142 00:06:35,645 --> 00:06:37,564 down in Cincinnati." 143 00:06:42,152 --> 00:06:43,737 (chuckles) 144 00:06:42,152 --> 00:06:43,737 -Sir, 145 00:06:43,778 --> 00:06:46,365 I am a corporate 146 00:06:43,778 --> 00:06:46,365 defence attorney. 147 00:06:46,405 --> 00:06:49,117 WILBUR: So? 148 00:06:46,405 --> 00:06:49,117 -I defend chemical companies. 149 00:06:49,159 --> 00:06:51,245 Well, now you can defend me. 150 00:06:51,286 --> 00:06:52,704 TOM: Rob! 151 00:06:53,163 --> 00:06:55,207 Uh, 30 seconds, Tom. 152 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:57,458 I'm sorry, Mr... 153 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:00,128 -Tennant. 154 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:00,128 -I can offer you a referral. 155 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:03,257 But I just don't see 156 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:03,257 how I can be of any help to you. 157 00:07:03,298 --> 00:07:05,342 You can start by watching them 158 00:07:03,298 --> 00:07:05,342 tapes for one thing. 159 00:07:05,384 --> 00:07:07,261 Oh, let's go, Earl. 160 00:07:07,302 --> 00:07:09,721 I'm sorry. 161 00:07:07,302 --> 00:07:09,721 I wish you all the luck. 162 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:11,765 Don't need yer damn luck, boy! 163 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:11,765 I need yer help! 164 00:07:11,806 --> 00:07:13,100 TOM: Rob! 165 00:07:13,141 --> 00:07:14,893 (receptionist speaking 166 00:07:13,141 --> 00:07:14,893 indistinctly) 167 00:07:15,852 --> 00:07:17,020 Come on. 168 00:07:24,736 --> 00:07:26,654 DOW LAWYER: ...not arguing 169 00:07:24,736 --> 00:07:26,654 with the overall analysis. 170 00:07:26,696 --> 00:07:29,866 My only point is that whatever 171 00:07:26,696 --> 00:07:29,866 we decide upon... 172 00:07:29,908 --> 00:07:31,243 (continues indistinctly) 173 00:07:34,537 --> 00:07:35,956 LAWYER: Thank you, gentlemen. 174 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:40,501 LAWYER: Do you know 175 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:40,501 where we're going? 176 00:07:40,543 --> 00:07:42,170 LAWYER 2: There's a place 177 00:07:40,543 --> 00:07:42,170 right around the corner. 178 00:07:42,212 --> 00:07:43,463 LAWYER 1: Yeah? 179 00:07:43,504 --> 00:07:45,048 What the hell was that 180 00:07:43,504 --> 00:07:45,048 all about? 181 00:07:45,757 --> 00:07:48,718 -He knows my grandmother. 182 00:07:45,757 --> 00:07:48,718 -Really? 183 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,096 ROB: Well, my mom's 184 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,096 from West Virginia 185 00:07:51,138 --> 00:07:53,181 from a town, Parkersburg. 186 00:07:53,223 --> 00:07:55,976 Not us. 187 00:07:53,223 --> 00:07:55,976 My father was Air Force. 188 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:58,353 We moved around a lot, 189 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:58,353 but we spent the summers there. 190 00:07:58,395 --> 00:07:59,896 DOW LAWYER: Come on, Terp. 191 00:07:58,395 --> 00:07:59,896 You're buying. 192 00:07:59,938 --> 00:08:01,231 Of course I am. 193 00:08:02,232 --> 00:08:04,859 You can be 194 00:08:02,232 --> 00:08:04,859 from West Virginia, Rob. 195 00:08:04,901 --> 00:08:06,527 I won't tell anyone. 196 00:08:12,117 --> 00:08:14,619 TOM: All right, gentlemen. 197 00:08:12,117 --> 00:08:14,619 Morton's it is. 198 00:08:16,121 --> 00:08:18,790 Still deigned to eat with us 199 00:08:16,121 --> 00:08:18,790 lowly associates? 200 00:08:21,084 --> 00:08:22,919 JAMES: You can't drive 201 00:08:21,084 --> 00:08:22,919 an American car. 202 00:08:24,212 --> 00:08:28,716 Taft-Hartley, union busting? 203 00:08:24,212 --> 00:08:28,716 We practically invented it. 204 00:08:28,758 --> 00:08:31,886 "We?" Besides, I know 205 00:08:28,758 --> 00:08:31,886 a highly esteemed partner 206 00:08:31,928 --> 00:08:33,263 who still drives American. 207 00:08:33,305 --> 00:08:34,473 Some real clunkers too. 208 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,475 Okay, yeah, 209 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,475 but he collects them. 210 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:39,019 That's different. 211 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:39,019 Like his no-name college 212 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:41,146 -and law school. No offense. 213 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:41,146 -Are you listening to this? 214 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:42,605 Hey, you guys go ahead, 215 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:42,605 all right? 216 00:08:42,647 --> 00:08:44,191 Look, I didn't mean 217 00:08:42,647 --> 00:08:44,191 anything by it. 218 00:08:44,232 --> 00:08:45,359 No. I gotta make a call. 219 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,567 It's all right. 220 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,567 I'll see you there. 221 00:08:46,609 --> 00:08:48,487 Okay, we'll save you 222 00:08:46,609 --> 00:08:48,487 a fish log. 223 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,656 You can be such an asshole. 224 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:53,116 JAMES: Karla, it was a joke. 225 00:08:53,158 --> 00:08:54,909 KARLA: Yeah. 226 00:08:53,158 --> 00:08:54,909 JAMES: We always joke. 227 00:08:54,951 --> 00:08:57,162 KARLA: Oh, yeah. You guys 228 00:08:54,951 --> 00:08:57,162 are a couple of jokesters. 229 00:08:57,204 --> 00:08:59,247 (line ringing) 230 00:09:06,296 --> 00:09:09,632 VOICEMAIL: You've reached 231 00:09:06,296 --> 00:09:09,632 the residence of Alma White. 232 00:09:09,674 --> 00:09:12,177 I can't come to the phone 233 00:09:09,674 --> 00:09:12,177 right now... 234 00:09:12,219 --> 00:09:15,263 He's good. He's home 235 00:09:12,219 --> 00:09:15,263 early tonight actually. 236 00:09:16,306 --> 00:09:17,891 SARAH'S MOM: (on phone) Tell 237 00:09:16,306 --> 00:09:17,891 him I say, "Howdy, partner." 238 00:09:17,932 --> 00:09:19,518 She says, "Howdy, partner." 239 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,728 SARAH'S MOM: Are we ever gonna 240 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,728 see him again on Sundays? 241 00:09:21,769 --> 00:09:23,771 SARAH: Yes, he can still come 242 00:09:21,769 --> 00:09:23,771 to Sunday dinners, Mom. 243 00:09:23,813 --> 00:09:26,107 He's a partner, 244 00:09:23,813 --> 00:09:26,107 not the President 245 00:09:23,813 --> 00:09:26,107 of the United States. 246 00:09:26,149 --> 00:09:27,984 SARAH'S MOM: I wanna make... 247 00:09:26,149 --> 00:09:27,984 Do you have my Bundt pan? 248 00:09:28,026 --> 00:09:29,277 -Returned it. 249 00:09:28,026 --> 00:09:29,277 SARAH'S MOM: Where? 250 00:09:29,319 --> 00:09:30,653 I looked under the counter. 251 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:32,113 It's the right-hand cupboard, 252 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:32,113 in the plastic. 253 00:09:32,155 --> 00:09:33,114 Yeah. 254 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:35,575 Okay, well, we just sat down. 255 00:09:35,616 --> 00:09:37,536 SARAH'S MOM: All right, dear. 256 00:09:35,616 --> 00:09:37,536 SARAH: I gotta go. 257 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:38,870 SARAH'S MOM: Love to Rob 258 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:38,870 and Teddy. 259 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,372 SARAH: All right, 260 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,372 see you Sunday. Love to Dad. 261 00:09:40,414 --> 00:09:41,540 SARAH'S MOM: Talk 262 00:09:40,414 --> 00:09:41,540 to you later. 263 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:42,999 SARAH: Can you pretend 264 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:42,999 to be surprised 265 00:09:43,041 --> 00:09:45,001 about the cake? 266 00:09:43,041 --> 00:09:45,001 She wants it to be very special. 267 00:09:45,043 --> 00:09:47,212 Oh, and the granite samples 268 00:09:45,043 --> 00:09:47,212 came in. 269 00:09:47,254 --> 00:09:49,214 Can you pick them up 270 00:09:47,254 --> 00:09:49,214 on your way home tomorrow? 271 00:09:49,714 --> 00:09:51,632 -Rob? 272 00:09:49,714 --> 00:09:51,632 ROB: Mmm? Oh, sure. 273 00:09:58,473 --> 00:10:00,975 -You okay? 274 00:09:58,473 --> 00:10:00,975 ROB: Yes. 275 00:10:01,935 --> 00:10:03,478 Bless us, our Lord and thy gifts 276 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,063 which we are about to receive 277 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,063 from thy bounty 278 00:10:05,105 --> 00:10:07,274 through Christ our Lord. 279 00:10:05,105 --> 00:10:07,274 Amen. Thank you, God. 280 00:10:07,315 --> 00:10:08,775 Thank you for family. 281 00:10:09,859 --> 00:10:11,236 (kissing) 282 00:10:17,367 --> 00:10:19,869 (soft music) 283 00:11:07,417 --> 00:11:08,835 Thank you. 284 00:11:41,117 --> 00:11:42,785 (knocking) 285 00:11:48,416 --> 00:11:49,708 Hi, Grammers. 286 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:53,171 What on earth! 287 00:11:54,631 --> 00:11:56,799 ROB: I tried to call, 288 00:11:54,631 --> 00:11:56,799 but you weren't picking up. 289 00:11:56,841 --> 00:12:00,387 ALMA: Oh, well, you know me. 290 00:11:56,841 --> 00:12:00,387 My two fake knees. 291 00:12:00,428 --> 00:12:01,638 (laughing) 292 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,306 What are you doing here? 293 00:12:05,517 --> 00:12:08,727 A, uh, farmer came to see me. 294 00:12:11,022 --> 00:12:14,067 ALMA: Wilbur Tennant? 295 00:12:11,022 --> 00:12:14,067 -You do know him. 296 00:12:14,108 --> 00:12:17,320 I don't socialise with him, 297 00:12:14,108 --> 00:12:17,320 if that's what you mean. 298 00:12:18,737 --> 00:12:22,075 Inez Graham owned the farm 299 00:12:18,737 --> 00:12:22,075 next to his. 300 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:24,911 I used to take you and Beth 301 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:24,911 over there when you were little. 302 00:12:25,953 --> 00:12:27,581 That's the place? 303 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:28,915 (scoffs) 304 00:12:34,379 --> 00:12:35,796 (slides drawer) 305 00:12:44,514 --> 00:12:45,764 ALMA: You rode that pony. 306 00:12:45,806 --> 00:12:47,434 (Alma chuckles) 307 00:12:45,806 --> 00:12:47,434 ROB: Ah. 308 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:49,143 I loved that place. 309 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:52,813 ALMA: Saw a cow 310 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:52,813 for the first time. 311 00:12:52,855 --> 00:12:54,190 Learned to milk it. 312 00:12:54,773 --> 00:12:56,943 I remember you sittin' there 313 00:12:54,773 --> 00:12:56,943 for hours 314 00:12:56,984 --> 00:12:59,028 making sure you got 315 00:12:56,984 --> 00:12:59,028 every last drop. 316 00:12:59,613 --> 00:13:01,155 Just like you. 317 00:13:02,616 --> 00:13:03,742 There. 318 00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:05,619 ROB: Mmm. 319 00:13:05,952 --> 00:13:07,786 ALMA: So you gonna help him? 320 00:13:08,288 --> 00:13:09,372 Huh? 321 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:30,560 (truck beeping) 322 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:36,733 (crushing) 323 00:13:51,914 --> 00:13:54,417 (clattering) 324 00:13:57,545 --> 00:14:01,675 You come up the holler, 325 00:13:57,545 --> 00:14:01,675 dump's up the hill. 326 00:14:04,803 --> 00:14:08,055 Since I started complaining 327 00:14:04,803 --> 00:14:08,055 about my creek, fence goes up. 328 00:14:08,097 --> 00:14:09,766 All blocked off. 329 00:14:15,396 --> 00:14:16,981 Hi, I'm Rob. 330 00:14:17,482 --> 00:14:18,692 Sandra. 331 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:24,322 WILBUR: The State, 332 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:24,322 any veterinarian I've called 333 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:24,322 in Parkersburg, 334 00:14:25,072 --> 00:14:27,492 they will not return 335 00:14:25,072 --> 00:14:27,492 my phone calls. 336 00:14:27,534 --> 00:14:28,827 Like I bite the hand that feeds. 337 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,077 No, it's all right. 338 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,077 I've already-- 339 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:31,663 WILBUR: This here's a gall. 340 00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:33,998 Look at the size of it. 341 00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:33,998 Ain't never seen no gall 342 00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:33,998 that big. 343 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,166 Bigger than the heart. 344 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:37,293 That your cows'? 345 00:14:37,335 --> 00:14:38,712 WILBUR: Look at them teeth. 346 00:14:40,963 --> 00:14:43,591 Black as night. Here. 347 00:14:45,593 --> 00:14:46,969 (grunts) 348 00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:49,597 Hoof, all turned in on itself. 349 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:52,392 Half my calves born 350 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:52,392 with hooves like that. 351 00:14:55,186 --> 00:14:57,397 Tumour, I done cut off 352 00:14:55,186 --> 00:14:57,397 the back a' heifer. 353 00:14:57,438 --> 00:14:59,733 How'd ya like that on yer table? 354 00:15:03,486 --> 00:15:05,613 ROB: What am I looking for? 355 00:15:06,113 --> 00:15:07,574 WILBUR: You blind, boy? 356 00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:10,910 Stones as white as the hairs 357 00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:10,910 on my head. 358 00:15:11,870 --> 00:15:14,539 Bleached! That's chemicals, 359 00:15:11,870 --> 00:15:14,539 I'm telling ya. 360 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,544 My animals drink this water. 361 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,544 Cool off in 'er. 362 00:15:19,586 --> 00:15:22,756 Get them bloody welts, 363 00:15:19,586 --> 00:15:22,756 them dead eyes. 364 00:15:22,797 --> 00:15:24,549 Charge at me, crazy-like. 365 00:15:24,591 --> 00:15:26,926 Animals that used to eat 366 00:15:24,591 --> 00:15:26,926 outta my own hand. 367 00:15:27,719 --> 00:15:29,262 (cow bellows) 368 00:15:32,181 --> 00:15:33,683 ROB: Where are the rest of them? 369 00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:36,977 Come on. 370 00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:52,702 Beginnin', I'd bury 'em. 371 00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:52,702 Each one. They're family. 372 00:15:53,787 --> 00:15:57,498 It got to be so many, 373 00:15:53,787 --> 00:15:57,498 pile 'em up, set fire to... 374 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:03,045 ROB: How many did you lose? 375 00:16:03,087 --> 00:16:06,006 -190. 376 00:16:03,087 --> 00:16:06,006 (exhales) 377 00:16:07,383 --> 00:16:09,510 190 cows? 378 00:16:09,552 --> 00:16:11,888 You tell me nothing's 379 00:16:09,552 --> 00:16:11,888 wrong here. 380 00:16:18,812 --> 00:16:23,149 ROB: And this landfill 381 00:16:18,812 --> 00:16:23,149 wasn't always here? 382 00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:24,692 WILBUR: No. 383 00:16:24,734 --> 00:16:26,694 My brother Jim 384 00:16:24,734 --> 00:16:26,694 used to dig ditches 385 00:16:26,736 --> 00:16:28,028 over at the DuPont plant. 386 00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:30,657 Got sick, 387 00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:30,657 couldn't do it no more. 388 00:16:30,698 --> 00:16:31,950 One day they come to him, 389 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:34,327 offering to buy his land 390 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:34,327 right up that holler. 391 00:16:34,953 --> 00:16:37,246 They promised no chemicals. 392 00:16:37,288 --> 00:16:39,958 And I assume you reached out 393 00:16:37,288 --> 00:16:39,958 to DuPont? 394 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:42,001 DuPont, the State, the Feds. 395 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:44,796 I called everybody there is 396 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:44,796 dozens of times. 397 00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:47,590 -EPA finally comes out here. 398 00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:47,590 -Oh, they did. 399 00:16:47,632 --> 00:16:50,551 WILBUR: Oh, all for some report. 400 00:16:47,632 --> 00:16:50,551 -What did it say? 401 00:16:50,593 --> 00:16:52,762 You think they're gonna show me? 402 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:19,455 SARAH: Okay. 403 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:22,166 (Teddy crying) 404 00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:25,252 He's been like this all day. 405 00:17:25,879 --> 00:17:27,714 Okay. Go on. 406 00:17:29,131 --> 00:17:30,675 (Sarah sighs) 407 00:17:32,593 --> 00:17:35,095 Of course you're 408 00:17:32,593 --> 00:17:35,095 a perfect angel for daddy. 409 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:37,682 (sighing) 410 00:17:37,724 --> 00:17:39,058 Did you get the tile? 411 00:17:39,099 --> 00:17:41,185 Um, I'm sorry. No. 412 00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:43,479 SARAH: Rob. 413 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:47,692 I didn't drive into town today. 414 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:47,692 I'm sorry. 415 00:17:48,108 --> 00:17:50,110 SARAH: What do you mean 416 00:17:48,108 --> 00:17:50,110 you didn't drive into town? 417 00:17:50,152 --> 00:17:53,072 (Teddy continues crying) 418 00:17:50,152 --> 00:17:53,072 -I had to go to Parkersburg. 419 00:17:53,531 --> 00:17:56,576 SARAH: Parkersburg? Why'd you 420 00:17:53,531 --> 00:17:56,576 have to go to Parkersburg? 421 00:17:57,535 --> 00:18:00,120 I may have a client there. 422 00:18:00,162 --> 00:18:01,915 SARAH: In West Virginia? 423 00:18:01,956 --> 00:18:03,624 What kind of a case 424 00:18:01,956 --> 00:18:03,624 would you have... 425 00:18:04,291 --> 00:18:07,795 He's a farmer. 426 00:18:04,291 --> 00:18:07,795 He knows my Grammer. 427 00:18:04,291 --> 00:18:07,795 Not well, but... 428 00:18:07,837 --> 00:18:10,089 SARAH: So you saw her? 429 00:18:07,837 --> 00:18:10,089 (scoffs) 430 00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:13,259 SARAH: Was your mother there? 431 00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:13,259 -Oh, come on, Sarah. 432 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:15,595 I didn't sneak off 433 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:15,595 to see my mother. 434 00:18:16,136 --> 00:18:18,848 SARAH: So why did you sneak off? 435 00:18:16,136 --> 00:18:18,848 -I didn't. 436 00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:22,685 MANAGING PARTNER: 437 00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:22,685 Our speaker tonight 438 00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:25,104 is no stranger 439 00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:25,104 to the Taft family. 440 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:28,900 Phillip Donnelly, Phil to us, 441 00:18:28,942 --> 00:18:32,319 serves as in-house Corporate 442 00:18:28,942 --> 00:18:32,319 Counsel at DuPont. 443 00:18:32,361 --> 00:18:36,532 Not only one of America's 444 00:18:32,361 --> 00:18:36,532 most revered chemical companies, 445 00:18:36,574 --> 00:18:40,078 but one of the few giants 446 00:18:36,574 --> 00:18:40,078 of the industry 447 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,371 that Taft doesn't represent. 448 00:18:42,413 --> 00:18:43,664 Not yet anyway! 449 00:18:43,706 --> 00:18:46,084 MANAGING PARTNER: 450 00:18:43,706 --> 00:18:46,084 That's the spirit, James. 451 00:18:46,918 --> 00:18:48,669 We asked Phil here tonight, 452 00:18:48,711 --> 00:18:50,755 not just to show him 453 00:18:48,711 --> 00:18:50,755 what he's missing, 454 00:18:50,797 --> 00:18:54,592 but to hear how a renowned 455 00:18:50,797 --> 00:18:54,592 leader of our industry 456 00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:56,636 stays that way. 457 00:18:56,677 --> 00:18:58,930 Please welcome Phil Donnelly. 458 00:18:58,972 --> 00:19:01,808 (applause) 459 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,060 -Wish me luck. 460 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,060 -Go get 'em, Phil! 461 00:19:04,102 --> 00:19:05,352 Thank you. 462 00:19:05,394 --> 00:19:07,521 PHIL: At DuPont, 463 00:19:05,394 --> 00:19:07,521 we're not producing 464 00:19:07,563 --> 00:19:09,065 chemicals for chemical's sake. 465 00:19:09,107 --> 00:19:11,275 We're producing them 466 00:19:09,107 --> 00:19:11,275 for people's sake. 467 00:19:11,317 --> 00:19:13,778 To make folks' lives easier, 468 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:16,280 happier, longer. 469 00:19:17,115 --> 00:19:22,202 That's why "Better Living 470 00:19:17,115 --> 00:19:22,202 Through Chemistry" 471 00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:24,580 is not just a slogan at DuPont. 472 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:28,626 -It's our DNA. 473 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:28,626 (audience mumbles in agreement) 474 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:31,378 (applause) 475 00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:34,465 PHIL: Hey, Rob. 476 00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:34,465 -Hello, Phil. 477 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:36,759 -Is it true what Tom tells me? 478 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:36,759 -Yeah, it's true. 479 00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:38,260 Well, good on them. 480 00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:38,260 They're lucky to have you. 481 00:19:38,302 --> 00:19:39,470 Thanks, Phil. 482 00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:41,388 Like I always tell 483 00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:41,388 my younger associates, 484 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,724 just keep your head down 485 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,724 and do the work. 486 00:19:43,766 --> 00:19:47,854 Thanks. Uh, Phil, can I ask you 487 00:19:43,766 --> 00:19:47,854 sort of an odd question? 488 00:19:47,895 --> 00:19:48,980 Shoot. 489 00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:52,232 ROB: Does the name 490 00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:52,232 Wilbur Tennant ring a bell? 491 00:19:53,109 --> 00:19:55,028 -Tennet, did you say? 492 00:19:53,109 --> 00:19:55,028 ROB: Tennant. 493 00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,488 No. Not that I recall. 494 00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:59,699 Mr Tennant's a farmer 495 00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:59,699 from West Virginia. 496 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,994 His property abuts one 497 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,994 of your landfills, Dry Run. 498 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:04,662 And his cows 499 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:04,662 have been getting sick. 500 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:07,040 He thinks possibly 501 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:07,040 because of the runoff 502 00:20:07,081 --> 00:20:08,875 from the landfill 503 00:20:07,081 --> 00:20:08,875 into his creek. 504 00:20:08,916 --> 00:20:10,710 PHIL: You're kidding me. 505 00:20:08,916 --> 00:20:10,710 How did this come to you? 506 00:20:10,751 --> 00:20:12,211 KIM: Hey, Phil! 507 00:20:12,252 --> 00:20:14,254 ROB: He's a farmer. He's... 508 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:16,799 My grandmother's 509 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:16,799 from Parkersburg. 510 00:20:16,841 --> 00:20:19,343 Really? Washington Works. 511 00:20:16,841 --> 00:20:19,343 Great plant. 512 00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:20,845 Right. She knows the Tennants. 513 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:22,096 So, Grandma's 514 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:22,096 on your back, huh? 515 00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:23,222 Something like that. 516 00:20:23,263 --> 00:20:24,557 -Anyway, uh... 517 00:20:23,263 --> 00:20:24,557 -Mmm-hmm. 518 00:20:24,598 --> 00:20:26,517 The farmer said 519 00:20:24,598 --> 00:20:26,517 the EPA came out, 520 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,310 took a look around. 521 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,310 I wondered... 522 00:20:28,352 --> 00:20:30,437 -The name of the landfill again? 523 00:20:28,352 --> 00:20:30,437 -Dry Run. 524 00:20:30,938 --> 00:20:32,606 Dry Run. Dry... 525 00:20:32,648 --> 00:20:34,817 You know, that does ring a bell, 526 00:20:32,648 --> 00:20:34,817 now that you mention it. 527 00:20:34,859 --> 00:20:36,861 We may have even sent 528 00:20:34,859 --> 00:20:36,861 some folks out there. 529 00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,988 If I remember correctly, 530 00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,988 help EPA check it out. 531 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:40,280 That's gotta be it. 532 00:20:40,322 --> 00:20:41,741 So, I'd love to share 533 00:20:41,782 --> 00:20:43,283 whatever came of that 534 00:20:41,782 --> 00:20:43,283 with Mr Tennant. 535 00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:44,618 Help settle his nerves. 536 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,204 Absolutely. Soon as I'm back 537 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:47,538 in Wilmington, I'll take a look. 538 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,665 Thanks, Phil. 539 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,665 I really appreciate it. 540 00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:51,834 Happy to do it. 541 00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:51,834 Now, let's get a drink 542 00:20:51,876 --> 00:20:54,128 and toast you, my friend. You. 543 00:20:54,545 --> 00:20:55,880 Okay. 544 00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:05,431 Mr Tennant! 545 00:21:12,855 --> 00:21:16,150 Mr Tennant, I have the report. 546 00:21:18,402 --> 00:21:19,779 Sons of bitches! 547 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:21,948 Who the hell 548 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:21,948 they think they are? 549 00:21:21,989 --> 00:21:24,158 -Who gives them the right? 550 00:21:21,989 --> 00:21:24,158 ROB: It's an evaluation. 551 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,120 Evalu... Hatchet job's 552 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,120 what it is. 553 00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:31,207 I been farming my entire life. 554 00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:31,207 Entire life! 555 00:21:31,249 --> 00:21:34,376 You read that. You tell me 556 00:21:31,249 --> 00:21:34,376 you recognize my farm. 557 00:21:34,418 --> 00:21:36,254 -Mr Tennant... 558 00:21:34,418 --> 00:21:36,254 WILBUR: Read it! 559 00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:41,884 The herd health 560 00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:41,884 investigation revealed... 561 00:21:41,926 --> 00:21:44,470 deficiency in herd management. 562 00:21:44,929 --> 00:21:47,932 Including poor nutrition, 563 00:21:47,974 --> 00:21:52,770 inadequate veterinary care 564 00:21:47,974 --> 00:21:52,770 and lack of fly control. 565 00:21:52,812 --> 00:21:54,605 You see any flies here? 566 00:21:55,522 --> 00:21:56,899 It's snowing. 567 00:21:56,941 --> 00:21:59,485 Can't stop making excuses 568 00:21:56,941 --> 00:21:59,485 for 'em, can you? 569 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:03,948 ROB: It could be pests. 570 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:03,948 They consulted a vet. 571 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,783 Whose vet? DuPont? 572 00:22:06,408 --> 00:22:07,493 (sighs) 573 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:10,412 Look at yourself. 574 00:22:10,454 --> 00:22:12,581 Swallowin' whole, 575 00:22:10,454 --> 00:22:12,581 whatever they been feeding ya. 576 00:22:12,623 --> 00:22:14,292 Can't tell truth from lie. 577 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:17,962 You even watch them tapes 578 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:17,962 I gave you? 579 00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:21,715 -Sir, I am trying to help! 580 00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:21,715 WILBUR: Quiet. 581 00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:24,426 -Trying to help. 582 00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:24,426 WILBUR: Stop movin'. 583 00:22:24,468 --> 00:22:27,471 (cow bellowing) 584 00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:34,687 (cow bellowing) 585 00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:34,687 -Easy, now. Easy. 586 00:22:38,191 --> 00:22:40,651 Get in. Slow. 587 00:22:43,779 --> 00:22:45,489 (cow bellows) 588 00:22:51,245 --> 00:22:53,998 (cow bellows) 589 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,373 (gunshot) 590 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,373 (thuds) 591 00:22:56,209 --> 00:22:57,835 (dog grunting) 592 00:23:06,302 --> 00:23:07,845 Forgive me, girl. 593 00:23:10,181 --> 00:23:12,058 (cow bellows) 594 00:23:10,181 --> 00:23:12,058 (gunshot) 595 00:23:13,017 --> 00:23:14,727 (dog barking) 596 00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:33,579 WILBUR: Jesus. 597 00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:46,842 (tense music) 598 00:24:28,801 --> 00:24:31,178 RADIO DJ: Need something to 599 00:24:28,801 --> 00:24:31,178 warm you up right about now? 600 00:24:31,220 --> 00:24:33,555 Well, how about this? 601 00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,641 (country music playing) 602 00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:41,897 ♪ Almost heaven, 603 00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:41,897 West Virginia ♪ 604 00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:48,486 ♪ Blue Ridge Mountains, 605 00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:48,486 Shenandoah River ♪ 606 00:24:50,114 --> 00:24:55,286 ♪ Life is old there, 607 00:24:50,114 --> 00:24:55,286 older than the trees ♪ 608 00:24:55,328 --> 00:25:00,416 ♪ Younger than the mountains 609 00:24:55,328 --> 00:25:00,416 Blowing like the breeze ♪ 610 00:25:00,458 --> 00:25:05,503 ♪ Country roads, 611 00:25:00,458 --> 00:25:05,503 take me home ♪ 612 00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:09,216 ♪ To the place ♪ 613 00:25:09,258 --> 00:25:12,011 ♪ I belong ♪ 614 00:25:12,052 --> 00:25:14,972 ♪ West Virginia ♪ 615 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:17,850 ♪ Mountain mama ♪ 616 00:25:17,891 --> 00:25:20,269 ♪ Take me home... ♪ 617 00:25:20,311 --> 00:25:22,938 WILBUR: (on video) 618 00:25:20,311 --> 00:25:22,938 ...this cow's eyes are cloudy 619 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,523 with pink eyes 620 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,523 is what they'll call it. 621 00:25:25,565 --> 00:25:28,152 Anyway, her eyes are sunk 622 00:25:25,565 --> 00:25:28,152 way back in her head. 623 00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:29,445 (flies buzzing) 624 00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:31,864 She's poor as a whippoorwill. 625 00:25:33,573 --> 00:25:35,701 And I'm gonna cut her open 626 00:25:33,573 --> 00:25:35,701 and find out 627 00:25:35,742 --> 00:25:38,287 what caused her to die. 628 00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:40,914 Because I was feeding her 629 00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:40,914 enough feed... 630 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:43,459 that she shoulda gained weight 631 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:43,459 instead of losin' weight. 632 00:25:44,168 --> 00:25:46,045 This is what her teeth 633 00:25:44,168 --> 00:25:46,045 looks like. 634 00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:49,798 That's the upper one. 635 00:25:50,466 --> 00:25:52,176 But this one here, 636 00:25:52,801 --> 00:25:55,513 I've never seen anything like 637 00:25:52,801 --> 00:25:55,513 it in my lifetime. 638 00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:58,807 Even the veterinarian, 639 00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:58,807 he admitted... 640 00:25:58,849 --> 00:26:00,851 He never saw anything 641 00:25:58,849 --> 00:26:00,851 like this before 642 00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:02,228 in his life either. 643 00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:04,604 (dramatic music) 644 00:26:06,148 --> 00:26:07,607 (static) 645 00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:09,735 (Rob sighs) 646 00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:16,075 So, what are you 647 00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:16,075 proposing we do? 648 00:26:16,616 --> 00:26:19,203 File a claim, 649 00:26:16,616 --> 00:26:19,203 trigger discovery 650 00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:21,330 and find out 651 00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:21,330 what's in that landfill. 652 00:26:21,372 --> 00:26:23,374 (turns off TV) 653 00:26:21,372 --> 00:26:23,374 -You wanna sue Dupont? 654 00:26:23,416 --> 00:26:24,750 Targeted. 655 00:26:24,791 --> 00:26:26,793 Property dispute. 656 00:26:24,791 --> 00:26:26,793 Routine stuff. 657 00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:28,586 Not routine. Not around here. 658 00:26:28,628 --> 00:26:31,257 I know, but Tom, 659 00:26:28,628 --> 00:26:31,257 if you'd actually seen it. 660 00:26:31,298 --> 00:26:33,509 His farm is like a graveyard. 661 00:26:33,551 --> 00:26:35,386 There's something very wrong. 662 00:26:35,428 --> 00:26:38,097 TOM: So he should hire 663 00:26:35,428 --> 00:26:38,097 a local lawyer. 664 00:26:38,138 --> 00:26:41,392 None of them will do it. 665 00:26:38,138 --> 00:26:41,392 They're all terrified of DuPont. 666 00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:44,103 -Well, what does that tell you? 667 00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:44,103 ROB: We know DuPont. 668 00:26:44,144 --> 00:26:45,687 They're gonna wanna hear 669 00:26:45,729 --> 00:26:48,399 if some of their local guys 670 00:26:45,729 --> 00:26:48,399 are screwing something up. 671 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:51,360 Oh, so they're gonna 672 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:51,360 thank us for suing. 673 00:26:51,402 --> 00:26:53,320 ROB: Better us than the EPA. 674 00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:55,864 I mean, new partners 675 00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:55,864 are supposed to bring 676 00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:55,864 in business, right? 677 00:26:55,906 --> 00:26:58,534 So your farmer 678 00:26:55,906 --> 00:26:58,534 can swing 275 an hour? 679 00:26:58,576 --> 00:27:00,702 -It'd be on contingency. 680 00:26:58,576 --> 00:27:00,702 (scoffs) 681 00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:03,914 Jesus. What are we, 682 00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:03,914 coupon chasers now? 683 00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:06,584 ROB: It's a small matter 684 00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:06,584 for a family friend. 685 00:27:06,624 --> 00:27:08,168 I'll get in and I'll get out. 686 00:27:08,794 --> 00:27:10,546 Help a guy that needs it. 687 00:27:10,588 --> 00:27:12,756 TOM: Who? The farmer or you? 688 00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:18,345 (sighs deeply) 689 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,224 (Rob clears throat) 690 00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:34,987 Surgical. You hear me? 691 00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:36,530 Absolutely. Thank you. 692 00:27:38,656 --> 00:27:39,950 PHIL: (on phone) Come on, Rob. 693 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:41,827 Of course I'm gonna 694 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:41,827 take your call. 695 00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:44,830 Even though, I was, 696 00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:44,830 I admit, a little surprised. 697 00:27:44,871 --> 00:27:47,500 I mean, getting sued 698 00:27:44,871 --> 00:27:47,500 by Taft Law. 699 00:27:48,125 --> 00:27:50,668 It's not every day. 700 00:27:48,125 --> 00:27:50,668 Or any day, frankly. 701 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:52,296 I know. I'm sorry. 702 00:27:52,338 --> 00:27:55,757 Look, you and I are friends. 703 00:27:52,338 --> 00:27:55,757 This is a minor issue. 704 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,218 No reason it should get messy. 705 00:27:58,260 --> 00:28:00,638 ROB: Thank you. I totally agree. 706 00:28:00,678 --> 00:28:02,139 Yeah, I'm putting you 707 00:28:00,678 --> 00:28:02,139 on speaker phone. 708 00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:03,474 (phone beeps) 709 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,436 PHIL: So, you wanna know 710 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,436 if we violated our permits. 711 00:28:07,478 --> 00:28:09,188 Pretty much, yeah. 712 00:28:09,229 --> 00:28:11,940 PHIL: Okay, then. I'll have 713 00:28:09,229 --> 00:28:11,940 our guys send over anything 714 00:28:11,982 --> 00:28:14,318 related to hazardous 715 00:28:11,982 --> 00:28:14,318 wastes at Dry Run. 716 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,737 And I'll tell them 717 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,737 to hurry it up this time. 718 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,737 How's that? 719 00:28:17,779 --> 00:28:19,406 ROB: Thank you. 720 00:28:17,779 --> 00:28:19,406 That sounds great. 721 00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,575 PHIL: And don't stress. 722 00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,575 I forgive you. 723 00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:23,494 ROB: Thanks, Phil. 724 00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:23,494 (receiver clicks) 725 00:28:28,915 --> 00:28:31,126 (kids chattering) 726 00:28:32,836 --> 00:28:34,796 (car approaching) 727 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,266 SARAH: You took your baby 728 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,266 into the office. 729 00:28:46,308 --> 00:28:49,811 -I needed a bigger trunk. 730 00:28:46,308 --> 00:28:49,811 SARAH: Why? 731 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:52,481 Discovery for the Tennant case 732 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:52,481 came in today. 733 00:28:52,523 --> 00:28:53,773 SARAH: Oh. 734 00:28:53,815 --> 00:28:55,693 Oh, you started before me. 735 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:57,736 You're so fast! Woah. 736 00:28:57,777 --> 00:28:58,862 SARAH'S MOM: Good boy. 737 00:28:59,488 --> 00:29:01,990 Rob's missing such a lovely day. 738 00:29:02,408 --> 00:29:04,326 Law's a jealous mistress, Mom. 739 00:29:04,368 --> 00:29:05,578 Means it comes 740 00:29:04,368 --> 00:29:05,578 with the territory. 741 00:29:05,619 --> 00:29:06,870 Let's go over here! 742 00:29:07,329 --> 00:29:08,706 SARAH'S BROTHER: Nice! 743 00:29:07,329 --> 00:29:08,706 Thank you! 744 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:10,332 That's what I'm talking about 745 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:10,332 right there. 746 00:29:10,374 --> 00:29:11,917 (TV playing) 747 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,422 All right. Let's go. One more. 748 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,422 One more. All right. 749 00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:28,601 (mumbles indistinctly) 750 00:29:35,148 --> 00:29:37,817 Poly... What's that? 751 00:29:37,859 --> 00:29:39,403 (whispers indistinctly) 752 00:29:54,209 --> 00:29:55,335 No. 753 00:29:56,169 --> 00:29:57,463 Mmm. 754 00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:04,844 How's my favourite 755 00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:04,844 plaintiff's attorney? 756 00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:06,179 ROB: Hey, help me out, will ya? 757 00:30:06,221 --> 00:30:08,557 You're a run of a mill dump, 758 00:30:06,221 --> 00:30:08,557 nothing but trash. 759 00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:10,142 KIM: You sound like 760 00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:10,142 my first girlfriend. 761 00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:11,017 (chuckles) 762 00:30:11,602 --> 00:30:15,855 Why a requisition order 763 00:30:11,602 --> 00:30:15,855 for 55-gallon containers? 764 00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:18,692 Conspiracy. Standard size drums. 765 00:30:18,734 --> 00:30:20,819 ROB: Ash, ash-by product, 766 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:23,697 glass tubing, 767 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:23,697 plastic, paper waste. 768 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:23,697 It's just trash. 769 00:30:23,739 --> 00:30:25,491 You pile it onto a truck, 770 00:30:23,739 --> 00:30:25,491 drive it away. 771 00:30:25,532 --> 00:30:26,908 You don't pack it into drums. 772 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:29,411 -So they've got liquid waste. 773 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:29,411 ROB: Not hazardous. 774 00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:33,039 Or they'd have to disclose it. 775 00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:33,039 So, what is killing these cows? 776 00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:34,416 It's not paper and ash. 777 00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:35,709 Well, maybe it's human error. 778 00:30:35,751 --> 00:30:36,918 They're dumping 779 00:30:35,751 --> 00:30:36,918 something in there 780 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,378 they don't know is toxic. 781 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:40,172 Kim, it's DuPont. 782 00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:42,841 They know more 783 00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:42,841 than the EPA does. 784 00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:44,593 Everyone knows more 785 00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:44,593 than the EPA does. 786 00:30:44,635 --> 00:30:47,387 Why else would they let us 787 00:30:44,635 --> 00:30:47,387 regulate ourselves? 788 00:30:49,014 --> 00:30:49,931 What? 789 00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:51,308 Do we? 790 00:30:51,891 --> 00:30:53,101 - "Do we" what? 791 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:58,940 - The EPA only started 792 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:58,940 regulating chemicals in '76. 793 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:58,940 - Yeah? 794 00:30:58,982 --> 00:31:01,568 - They grandfather 795 00:30:58,982 --> 00:31:01,568 in every existing chemical, 796 00:31:01,610 --> 00:31:02,778 non-hazardous, 797 00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:05,113 unless they knew 798 00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:05,113 it was hazardous 799 00:31:05,155 --> 00:31:06,865 or a company told them it was. 800 00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:08,867 -We're saying the same thing. 801 00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:08,867 ROB: No, we're not. 802 00:31:08,908 --> 00:31:13,246 I'm saying what if 803 00:31:08,908 --> 00:31:13,246 a company didn't tell? 804 00:31:14,498 --> 00:31:15,874 What if... 805 00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:20,337 the reason Phil Donnelly 806 00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:20,337 agreed to discovery on hazardous 807 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:22,422 is because he knows 808 00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:25,759 whatever's in that landfill 809 00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:25,759 isn't even regulated? 810 00:31:26,092 --> 00:31:29,262 Okay, now you are sounding like 811 00:31:26,092 --> 00:31:29,262 a plaintiff's attorney. 812 00:31:29,304 --> 00:31:32,057 -I've got a meeting. 813 00:31:29,304 --> 00:31:32,057 ROB: Hey, oh, wait, one second. 814 00:31:32,098 --> 00:31:36,186 Have you heard of this, 815 00:31:32,098 --> 00:31:36,186 um, PFOA? 816 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:38,230 No. 817 00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:40,023 ROB: You know, 818 00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:40,023 it's mentioned here, 819 00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:41,734 but I can't find 820 00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:41,734 anything about it 821 00:31:41,775 --> 00:31:42,860 in any of the literature. 822 00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:44,611 I don't even know 823 00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:44,611 if it's a chemical. 824 00:31:44,653 --> 00:31:46,112 Ask Phil. 825 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:48,073 Well, thank you. 826 00:31:48,114 --> 00:31:49,199 SECRETARY: (on phone) 827 00:31:48,114 --> 00:31:49,199 As I said, 828 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:50,909 Mr Donnelly is still 829 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:50,909 out of town. 830 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:53,704 I called last week 831 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:53,704 and left two messages 832 00:31:53,746 --> 00:31:55,247 and haven't heard back from him. 833 00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:56,874 SECRETARY: I'll be sure 834 00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:56,874 to tell him you called again. 835 00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,292 ROB: Okay. Damn it. 836 00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,292 (receiver clicks) 837 00:31:59,334 --> 00:32:01,795 KATHLEEN: Your tickets to the 838 00:31:59,334 --> 00:32:01,795 chemical alliance dinner. 839 00:32:01,837 --> 00:32:03,756 (Rob groans) 840 00:32:01,837 --> 00:32:03,756 -And no, dark suit 841 00:32:03,797 --> 00:32:05,507 is not the same as black tie. 842 00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:07,843 Wouldn't he be going? 843 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,597 (soft music playing) 844 00:32:20,773 --> 00:32:22,900 (indistinct chatter) 845 00:32:37,664 --> 00:32:39,082 (Sarah chuckles) 846 00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,500 I don't know if Rob told you, 847 00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:41,960 but I was a receptionist at Taft 848 00:32:42,001 --> 00:32:43,503 -before law school. 849 00:32:42,001 --> 00:32:43,503 -Is that right? 850 00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:45,672 Yeah. But well, I think 851 00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:45,672 the right Bilott ended up there. 852 00:32:45,714 --> 00:32:47,340 Harold, you're not getting away 853 00:32:45,714 --> 00:32:47,340 from me. 854 00:32:47,382 --> 00:32:49,551 -Would you excuse me? 855 00:32:47,382 --> 00:32:49,551 -Sure, it was... 856 00:32:49,593 --> 00:32:51,720 -It's great to see you. 857 00:32:49,593 --> 00:32:51,720 TOM: When is the... 858 00:32:51,762 --> 00:32:53,722 (both laughing) 859 00:32:51,762 --> 00:32:53,722 -That's funny. 860 00:32:54,431 --> 00:32:56,642 Right away, 861 00:32:54,431 --> 00:32:56,642 I saw a little of myself in Rob. 862 00:32:56,683 --> 00:32:59,352 -Oh. 863 00:32:56,683 --> 00:32:59,352 -One black sheep to another. 864 00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:01,396 My dad was a steel worker, 865 00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:01,396 you know. 866 00:33:01,438 --> 00:33:03,482 -Was he? 867 00:33:01,438 --> 00:33:03,482 -Have you seen Phil? 868 00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:05,442 KIM: No. 869 00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:09,446 -So you're an attorney? 870 00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:09,446 -Oh, uh, recovering. 871 00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:12,616 I represented employers 872 00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:12,616 in workmen's comp disputes. 873 00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:14,534 But now I stay at home 874 00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:14,534 with our baby. 875 00:33:14,576 --> 00:33:15,994 MAN: (chuckles) Well, 876 00:33:14,576 --> 00:33:15,994 that's the thing 877 00:33:16,035 --> 00:33:17,496 with lady lawyers. 878 00:33:18,288 --> 00:33:20,332 I wanna say hi to the Dow folks. 879 00:33:18,288 --> 00:33:20,332 Have you seen them? 880 00:33:20,373 --> 00:33:21,541 No, I've been looking for Phil. 881 00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:23,042 Did I tell you 882 00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:23,042 they sent me some work? 883 00:33:23,084 --> 00:33:25,086 Dow? That's great! 884 00:33:25,128 --> 00:33:26,880 KARLA: Just a small project. 885 00:33:25,128 --> 00:33:26,880 Like a try-out. 886 00:33:26,922 --> 00:33:28,340 But if I impress them, 887 00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:30,091 can you imagine 888 00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:30,091 if I brought on Dow? 889 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,678 (Rob chuckles) 890 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,678 -Oh, none for me, thank you. 891 00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:34,763 ROB: You're not? 892 00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,141 I'm, uh... 893 00:33:39,184 --> 00:33:41,144 You're... She's... 894 00:33:41,186 --> 00:33:42,771 KARLA: I'm... 895 00:33:41,186 --> 00:33:42,771 (exhales) 896 00:33:42,813 --> 00:33:46,065 I'm gonna wait as long as I can 897 00:33:42,813 --> 00:33:46,065 to tell the firm. Obviously. 898 00:33:46,107 --> 00:33:47,567 Would you excuse us 899 00:33:46,107 --> 00:33:47,567 for a moment? 900 00:33:47,609 --> 00:33:49,736 These lady lawyers 901 00:33:47,609 --> 00:33:49,736 need a quick sidebar. 902 00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:51,363 MAN: Of course. 903 00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:51,363 -No. No. 904 00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:52,990 SARAH: He signs your pay cheque. 905 00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:52,990 Be nice to him. 906 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:54,533 ROB: Don't leave me. 907 00:33:54,574 --> 00:33:55,826 (Karla and Sarah laughing) 908 00:33:55,868 --> 00:33:57,243 SARAH: Congratulations. 909 00:33:57,285 --> 00:33:58,662 KARLA: I know. 910 00:33:57,285 --> 00:33:58,662 I can't believe it. 911 00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:02,081 (indistinct chatter) 912 00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:05,335 Excuse me. 913 00:34:14,636 --> 00:34:15,971 PHIL: Rob, how are you? 914 00:34:16,013 --> 00:34:17,681 ROB: Phil, I've been trying 915 00:34:16,013 --> 00:34:17,681 to reach you. 916 00:34:17,723 --> 00:34:18,807 So sorry, all this traveling. 917 00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,141 How about I give you 918 00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,141 a shout tomorrow? 919 00:34:20,183 --> 00:34:21,518 We're gonna need 920 00:34:20,183 --> 00:34:21,518 to broaden discovery 921 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,854 to everything in that landfill, 922 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,854 hazardous or not. 923 00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:25,689 (indistinct chatter) 924 00:34:27,357 --> 00:34:28,525 Excuse me. 925 00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:31,862 -You kidding me? 926 00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:31,862 ROB: No. 927 00:34:34,113 --> 00:34:36,658 ROB: Um, I think whatever's 928 00:34:34,113 --> 00:34:36,658 causing the problems in there 929 00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:40,161 isn't something the EPA 930 00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:40,161 regulates or knows to regulate. 931 00:34:40,203 --> 00:34:41,454 Sorry? 932 00:34:41,496 --> 00:34:43,540 I'm seeing things 933 00:34:41,496 --> 00:34:43,540 in your documents 934 00:34:43,582 --> 00:34:44,666 I don't understand. 935 00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:45,876 You're seeing ghosts, 936 00:34:45,918 --> 00:34:47,335 that's what you're seeing, 937 00:34:45,918 --> 00:34:47,335 and frankly, 938 00:34:47,377 --> 00:34:48,795 you're making 939 00:34:47,377 --> 00:34:48,795 an ass of yourself. 940 00:34:48,837 --> 00:34:50,338 Okay, then, help me out. 941 00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:52,131 I mean, like this. 942 00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:55,260 I mean, what is this, uh, PFOA? 943 00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:57,512 -What's that stand for? 944 00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:57,512 (scoffs) 945 00:34:59,347 --> 00:35:03,393 Jesus. You're on a goddamn 946 00:34:59,347 --> 00:35:03,393 fishing expedition. 947 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:07,064 You wanna flush your career down 948 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:07,064 the toilet for some cowhand? 949 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,857 Be my guest. 950 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,857 I'm done helping you. 951 00:35:08,899 --> 00:35:11,568 Phil, I need to insist 952 00:35:08,899 --> 00:35:11,568 on broadening discovery. 953 00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:12,861 Sue me! 954 00:35:12,903 --> 00:35:15,238 I'm... already suing you. 955 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,409 Welcome, everyone, 956 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,409 to the 14th Annual Ohio 957 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,409 Chemical Alliance... 958 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:21,787 -Fuck you! 959 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:21,787 MAN: ...Awards dinner. 960 00:35:21,828 --> 00:35:23,872 (all applauding) 961 00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:25,498 Hick! 962 00:35:29,044 --> 00:35:32,213 DOW LAWYER: 963 00:35:29,044 --> 00:35:32,213 So, let's get the fun started! 964 00:35:52,734 --> 00:35:53,902 I'm sorry. 965 00:35:54,444 --> 00:35:56,655 SARAH: You're not the only one 966 00:35:54,444 --> 00:35:56,655 who's sacrificed. 967 00:36:03,369 --> 00:36:05,371 I just hope you know 968 00:36:03,369 --> 00:36:05,371 what you're doing. 969 00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:06,581 (door opens) 970 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:10,168 (door closes) 971 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:10,168 (footsteps receding) 972 00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:12,796 TOM: You know the difference 973 00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:14,047 between business 974 00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:14,047 and pleasure, right? 975 00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,382 So, why on earth 976 00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,382 would you engage 977 00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:18,969 in business conversations 978 00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:18,969 at a public function? 979 00:36:19,011 --> 00:36:19,845 ROB: Tom! 980 00:36:20,303 --> 00:36:23,015 He's hiding something. 981 00:36:20,303 --> 00:36:23,015 You saw his reaction. 982 00:36:23,056 --> 00:36:24,891 TOM: Yeah, me and everyone 983 00:36:23,056 --> 00:36:24,891 in that room. 984 00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:26,601 Taft in a pissing match 985 00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:26,601 with DuPont. 986 00:36:26,643 --> 00:36:28,728 I am gonna get a court order 987 00:36:26,643 --> 00:36:28,728 and force them 988 00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:30,480 to tell me everything 989 00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:30,480 that's in that landfill. 990 00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:32,565 Jesus Christ! Now you wanna 991 00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:32,565 actually take them to court. 992 00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:34,651 And I'm gonna need local counsel 993 00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:34,651 in West Virginia. 994 00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:37,529 -What happened to routine stuff? 995 00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:37,529 -Ask Phil Donnelly. 996 00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:38,864 God! 997 00:36:38,905 --> 00:36:40,406 LARRY: Of course 998 00:36:38,905 --> 00:36:40,406 I remember you. 999 00:36:40,448 --> 00:36:41,616 (indistinct chatter on phone) 1000 00:36:40,448 --> 00:36:41,616 (chuckles) 1001 00:36:41,658 --> 00:36:43,284 Yeah, last time I saw you, 1002 00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:45,244 I think Phil Donnelly was 1003 00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:45,244 trying to get you to go out 1004 00:36:45,286 --> 00:36:47,246 on the links with us. Yeah. 1005 00:36:50,249 --> 00:36:51,417 You what? 1006 00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:07,059 -Sir. 1007 00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:07,059 LARRY: Thank you. 1008 00:37:12,856 --> 00:37:14,315 Good morning. 1009 00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:19,487 -Good morning, Larry. 1010 00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:19,487 LARRY: Morning. 1011 00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:27,037 Morning, Miss Claire. 1012 00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:29,539 Don't you look nice. 1013 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:31,374 CLERK: Save it for the judge, 1014 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:31,374 Mr Winter. 1015 00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:32,876 (chuckles) 1016 00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:37,881 CLERK: You're suing DuPont. 1017 00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:40,884 LARRY: Yes, ma'am. 1018 00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:43,469 You represent DuPont. 1019 00:37:43,511 --> 00:37:44,679 My old firm did. 1020 00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:46,973 I've been out on my own 1021 00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:46,973 for a while. 1022 00:37:48,474 --> 00:37:49,935 Good luck with that. 1023 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,649 PHIL: (on phone) Just wanted 1024 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,649 to let you know personally 1025 00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:59,778 that your court-ordered 1026 00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:59,778 discovery is on the way. 1027 00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:04,282 -Thanks, Phil. 1028 00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:04,282 PHIL: No, it's my pleasure. 1029 00:38:06,325 --> 00:38:07,869 Discovery. 1030 00:38:20,339 --> 00:38:21,967 (thuds) 1031 00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:24,803 Son of a bitch. 1032 00:38:24,844 --> 00:38:27,305 No admission of liability. 1033 00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:29,975 And non... 1034 00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:35,272 Non-disclosure of any 1035 00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:35,272 and all terms. 1036 00:38:36,397 --> 00:38:37,816 Pardon me a moment. 1037 00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:54,082 Thanks. 1038 00:38:54,833 --> 00:38:57,043 Holy Jesus! 1039 00:38:57,919 --> 00:38:59,587 -What in the... 1040 00:38:57,919 --> 00:38:59,587 -Thanks. 1041 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:01,965 ...world? 1042 00:39:02,257 --> 00:39:04,134 I guess the joke's on me. 1043 00:39:04,176 --> 00:39:05,885 -Yeah. 1044 00:39:04,176 --> 00:39:05,885 -Hmm. 1045 00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:09,097 No one can go 1046 00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:09,097 through all this crap. 1047 00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:09,097 Not in a million years. 1048 00:39:09,139 --> 00:39:11,224 Yeah, I'm pretty sure 1049 00:39:09,139 --> 00:39:11,224 that's what they're banking on. 1050 00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:16,146 ROB: Oh, God! Damnit! 1051 00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:16,146 -Oh, God, Rob! 1052 00:39:16,188 --> 00:39:17,689 (coughs) 1053 00:39:20,942 --> 00:39:22,360 -Here, let me... 1054 00:39:20,942 --> 00:39:22,360 ROB: No, no, no, 1055 00:39:22,401 --> 00:39:24,321 you shouldn't be 1056 00:39:22,401 --> 00:39:24,321 around this stuff. 1057 00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:27,324 -You sure? 1058 00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:27,324 ROB: I'm positive. 1059 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:28,825 Thank you, though. 1060 00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:30,160 KARLA: Yeah. 1061 00:39:31,452 --> 00:39:32,745 Good luck. 1062 00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:46,176 (sighs) 1063 00:39:54,184 --> 00:39:55,727 1957. 1064 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:36,601 (soft music) 1065 00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:06,923 -Hey, Bobby. How you... 1066 00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:06,923 -What're you having? 1067 00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:10,135 Usual. 1068 00:41:11,636 --> 00:41:13,430 Eggs over bacon and grits. 1069 00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:16,349 Same. 1070 00:41:20,979 --> 00:41:23,231 BOBBY: I need two over, 1071 00:41:20,979 --> 00:41:23,231 grits, fried. 1072 00:41:32,782 --> 00:41:34,159 WILBUR: (on phone) 1073 00:41:32,782 --> 00:41:34,159 Wilbur Tennant. 1074 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,576 KATHLEEN: He's not 1075 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,576 in his office. 1076 00:41:35,618 --> 00:41:36,702 Can I take a message? 1077 00:41:36,744 --> 00:41:37,870 WILBUR: I been 1078 00:41:36,744 --> 00:41:37,870 leaving messages. 1079 00:41:37,912 --> 00:41:39,289 KATHLEEN: I know, Mr Tennant, 1080 00:41:39,331 --> 00:41:41,124 but he really can't get 1081 00:41:39,331 --> 00:41:41,124 to the phone right now. 1082 00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:42,875 WILBUR: I want service! 1083 00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:42,875 (coughs) 1084 00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:44,461 I'll let him know 1085 00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:44,461 that you called again. 1086 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:46,463 WILBUR: For Christ's sakes. 1087 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:46,463 (line disconnects) 1088 00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:50,216 ROB: Is she getting accustomed 1089 00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:50,216 to being at Mom and Dad's? 1090 00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:52,218 BETH: (on phone) 1091 00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:52,218 You know Grammer. She misses 1092 00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:52,218 her own house. 1093 00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:53,261 ROB: What? 1094 00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:54,637 BETH: She misses 1095 00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:54,637 her own house. 1096 00:41:55,305 --> 00:41:56,889 ROB: I have a bad cell. 1097 00:41:56,931 --> 00:41:59,392 BETH: I said Grammer misses 1098 00:41:56,931 --> 00:41:59,392 her own house. 1099 00:41:59,434 --> 00:42:02,187 Okay, can you... 1100 00:41:59,434 --> 00:42:02,187 Can I talk to her? 1101 00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:03,855 BETH: She and Mom 1102 00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:03,855 are at the doctor's. 1103 00:42:04,563 --> 00:42:06,149 ROB: Will you tell Grammers 1104 00:42:04,563 --> 00:42:06,149 I called? 1105 00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:08,026 (voice breaking up) 1106 00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:08,026 ROB: And Mom too? 1107 00:42:08,067 --> 00:42:09,735 BETH: Rob, you're breaking up. 1108 00:42:08,067 --> 00:42:09,735 Let's try again on Sunday. 1109 00:42:09,777 --> 00:42:10,736 ROB: All right. 1110 00:42:13,698 --> 00:42:15,033 (sighs) 1111 00:42:18,786 --> 00:42:19,996 "C-8." 1112 00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:28,713 You know you look like 1113 00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:28,713 a crazy person, right? 1114 00:42:28,754 --> 00:42:31,508 What was the name of that guy 1115 00:42:28,754 --> 00:42:31,508 that you brought by the, um... 1116 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:33,343 KIM: What guy? 1117 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:33,343 (Rob stutters) 1118 00:42:33,385 --> 00:42:34,802 The chemistry expert. 1119 00:42:34,844 --> 00:42:36,262 The guy who does the models. 1120 00:42:36,304 --> 00:42:37,222 Gillespie. 1121 00:42:39,849 --> 00:42:41,142 Here you go. 1122 00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:43,144 GILLESPIE: Thank you. 1123 00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:43,144 -Mmm-hmm. 1124 00:42:43,186 --> 00:42:45,230 Kim Burke had 1125 00:42:43,186 --> 00:42:45,230 an expense account. 1126 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,191 ROB: Oh, sorry. It's not 1127 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,191 that kind of case. 1128 00:42:48,774 --> 00:42:53,029 Are you familiar 1129 00:42:48,774 --> 00:42:53,029 with something called PFOA? 1130 00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:55,656 No. 1131 00:42:58,326 --> 00:42:59,827 No. No. 1132 00:43:00,286 --> 00:43:04,957 I did read something recently 1133 00:43:00,286 --> 00:43:04,957 about a PFOS, I think it was. 1134 00:43:04,999 --> 00:43:06,876 That sounds related. 1135 00:43:06,918 --> 00:43:08,378 ROB: And what was that? 1136 00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:11,506 Long-chain fluorocarbon, 1137 00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:11,506 synthetic. 1138 00:43:11,548 --> 00:43:13,550 (Rob scoffs) 1139 00:43:11,548 --> 00:43:13,550 ROB: I'm sorry. 1140 00:43:13,591 --> 00:43:16,094 Chemistry was my worst class 1141 00:43:13,591 --> 00:43:16,094 in high school. 1142 00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:18,471 (chuckles) 1143 00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:18,471 -Boy, you in the wrong 1144 00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:18,471 line of work. 1145 00:43:18,513 --> 00:43:21,140 Tell me about it. So? 1146 00:43:21,182 --> 00:43:23,726 So, synthetic. All right? 1147 00:43:21,182 --> 00:43:23,726 Man-made. 1148 00:43:23,768 --> 00:43:25,811 ROB: Hmm. 1149 00:43:23,768 --> 00:43:25,811 -Frankenstein. 1150 00:43:25,853 --> 00:43:27,480 (chuckles) 1151 00:43:25,853 --> 00:43:27,480 ROB: And? 1152 00:43:27,522 --> 00:43:30,775 Um... Long-chain fluorocarbon 1153 00:43:30,816 --> 00:43:32,860 is a sequence of carbon atoms, 1154 00:43:30,816 --> 00:43:32,860 add a fluoride. 1155 00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:37,698 All right. In the lab, 1156 00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:37,698 you take a carbon atom 1157 00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:41,244 and then you add 1158 00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:41,244 another carbon atom. 1159 00:43:41,286 --> 00:43:44,622 And then another and another... 1160 00:43:44,663 --> 00:43:49,210 Look, you're making 1161 00:43:44,663 --> 00:43:49,210 a chain. Right? 1162 00:43:52,171 --> 00:43:53,298 Right? 1163 00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:56,968 ROB: Could it be eight? 1164 00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:56,968 Eight carbons? 1165 00:43:57,009 --> 00:43:58,261 GILLESPIE: Well, sure. Yeah. 1166 00:43:58,303 --> 00:44:00,096 In the lab, you can do 1167 00:43:58,303 --> 00:44:00,096 almost anything. 1168 00:44:00,138 --> 00:44:03,724 ROB: And why would you want to? 1169 00:44:00,138 --> 00:44:03,724 Make this, I mean. 1170 00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:07,812 Well, a chain like that's 1171 00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:07,812 pretty much unbreakable, 1172 00:44:07,853 --> 00:44:09,522 biochemically speaking. 1173 00:44:09,564 --> 00:44:12,525 So, uh, industrial uses, 1174 00:44:09,564 --> 00:44:12,525 I imagine. 1175 00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:17,405 3M made it. They don't any more. 1176 00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:17,405 That's what I read. 1177 00:44:17,447 --> 00:44:20,366 ROB: And why did they stop? 1178 00:44:17,447 --> 00:44:20,366 -Didn't say. 1179 00:44:22,743 --> 00:44:23,953 What if... 1180 00:44:25,330 --> 00:44:27,206 What if you drank it? 1181 00:44:29,501 --> 00:44:32,295 Drank it? You don't. 1182 00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:33,671 Well, what if you did? 1183 00:44:33,712 --> 00:44:34,880 WAITRESS: Ready to order? 1184 00:44:34,922 --> 00:44:36,090 GILLESPIE: Yeah, 1185 00:44:34,922 --> 00:44:36,090 I think I'd like a... 1186 00:44:36,132 --> 00:44:38,009 But... what if you did? 1187 00:44:39,385 --> 00:44:42,180 GILLESPIE: That's like saying, 1188 00:44:39,385 --> 00:44:42,180 "What if I swallowed a tire?" 1189 00:44:43,598 --> 00:44:46,267 I don't know. You wanna be 1190 00:44:43,598 --> 00:44:46,267 the guy that finds out? 1191 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,936 Tuna melt. 1192 00:44:52,482 --> 00:44:54,359 (indistinct chatter) 1193 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,110 (organ music playing) 1194 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,792 PREACHER: Let us all begin 1195 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,792 with Hymn number 452 1196 00:45:11,834 --> 00:45:13,127 in our hymnal books. 1197 00:45:13,169 --> 00:45:16,339 "Here I am, Lord." 1198 00:45:13,169 --> 00:45:16,339 Please rise. 1199 00:45:19,342 --> 00:45:23,929 CONGREGATION: 1200 00:45:19,342 --> 00:45:23,929 ♪ I, the Lord of sea and sky ♪ 1201 00:45:23,971 --> 00:45:28,767 ♪ I have heard my people cry ♪ 1202 00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:33,105 ♪ All who dwell 1203 00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:33,105 in deepest sin ♪ 1204 00:45:33,814 --> 00:45:37,776 ♪ My hand will save ♪ 1205 00:45:39,362 --> 00:45:40,988 TEDDY: Does it makes sounds? 1206 00:45:41,489 --> 00:45:43,616 FEMALE AUTOMATED VOICE: 1207 00:45:41,489 --> 00:45:43,616 Asteroid ahead. 1208 00:45:43,658 --> 00:45:46,285 (laughs) 1209 00:45:43,658 --> 00:45:46,285 TEDDY: You hold like that. 1210 00:45:46,327 --> 00:45:48,621 MALE AUTOMATED VOICE: 1211 00:45:46,327 --> 00:45:48,621 Are you ready to blast off? 1212 00:45:56,795 --> 00:45:59,340 (Teddy babbling indistinctly) 1213 00:46:01,217 --> 00:46:03,886 TEDDY: I'm taking off that. 1214 00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:36,168 ROB: You said it had fluoride? 1215 00:46:36,628 --> 00:46:38,337 GILLESPIE: (on phone) What? 1216 00:46:36,628 --> 00:46:38,337 Mr Bilott, it's Sunday. 1217 00:46:38,379 --> 00:46:41,507 That chemical, you said 1218 00:46:38,379 --> 00:46:41,507 it had a fluoride atom. 1219 00:46:41,549 --> 00:46:44,260 GILLESPIE: (scoffs) 1220 00:46:41,549 --> 00:46:44,260 It's a fluorocarbon, so, yes. 1221 00:46:44,302 --> 00:46:45,637 Somewhere along the chain... 1222 00:46:45,678 --> 00:46:48,097 What would it do to your teeth 1223 00:46:45,678 --> 00:46:48,097 if you drank it? 1224 00:46:48,139 --> 00:46:50,266 Don't tell me if you shouldn't. 1225 00:46:48,139 --> 00:46:50,266 If you did. 1226 00:46:50,308 --> 00:46:53,018 If you drank a lot of it, 1227 00:46:50,308 --> 00:46:53,018 what would it do to your teeth? 1228 00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,521 GILLESPIE: Well, 1229 00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,521 in trace amounts, 1230 00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,521 fluoride hardens teeth. 1231 00:46:55,563 --> 00:46:57,774 But too much, 1232 00:46:55,563 --> 00:46:57,774 it's gonna stain 'em. 1233 00:46:57,814 --> 00:47:00,318 I mean, even turn 'em black. 1234 00:47:01,527 --> 00:47:03,820 So, can I get back 1235 00:47:01,527 --> 00:47:03,820 to my family now? 1236 00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:09,952 SARAH: What? 1237 00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:09,952 Where are you going? 1238 00:47:09,994 --> 00:47:12,580 -It's in their water. 1239 00:47:09,994 --> 00:47:12,580 SARAH: What? What is? 1240 00:47:35,728 --> 00:47:38,230 (soft music) 1241 00:47:47,532 --> 00:47:49,534 (Wilbur coughing) 1242 00:47:50,117 --> 00:47:51,577 DOCTOR: How long's 1243 00:47:50,117 --> 00:47:51,577 the coughing been? 1244 00:47:52,829 --> 00:47:55,498 WILBUR: Couple... Couple months. 1245 00:47:55,914 --> 00:47:57,208 A year. 1246 00:47:57,249 --> 00:47:58,751 DOCTOR: You a smoker? 1247 00:47:58,793 --> 00:48:01,128 -No. 1248 00:47:58,793 --> 00:48:01,128 (coughing) 1249 00:48:01,962 --> 00:48:03,964 Roll up your sleeve. 1250 00:48:01,962 --> 00:48:03,964 We're gonna take some blood. 1251 00:48:07,926 --> 00:48:09,261 (nurse clears throat) 1252 00:48:17,436 --> 00:48:18,521 (dog barks) 1253 00:48:18,563 --> 00:48:20,398 WILBUR: Thought 1254 00:48:18,563 --> 00:48:20,398 you left him inside. 1255 00:48:20,439 --> 00:48:21,733 SANDRA: I did. 1256 00:48:22,358 --> 00:48:23,442 (dog barks) 1257 00:48:24,193 --> 00:48:25,319 (Sandra sighs) 1258 00:48:25,361 --> 00:48:27,446 (dog barking) 1259 00:48:25,361 --> 00:48:27,446 -Oh, baby. 1260 00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:30,282 (growls) 1261 00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:30,282 SANDRA: Come on. 1262 00:48:37,122 --> 00:48:39,834 WILBUR: You move this? 1263 00:48:37,122 --> 00:48:39,834 -What? 1264 00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:42,712 -Did you go through this? 1265 00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:42,712 SANDRA: No! 1266 00:48:47,592 --> 00:48:49,009 WILBUR: They been here. 1267 00:48:50,261 --> 00:48:51,721 They been here! 1268 00:48:54,098 --> 00:48:56,183 (dog whines) 1269 00:49:05,818 --> 00:49:07,528 (hammering) 1270 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:09,614 (Crystal and Amy 1271 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:09,614 chatting indistinctly) 1272 00:49:20,249 --> 00:49:21,834 AMY: What happened? 1273 00:49:23,419 --> 00:49:24,712 Wash up. 1274 00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:31,886 (helicopter hovering) 1275 00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:31,886 (barking) 1276 00:49:33,554 --> 00:49:35,097 CRYSTAL: Dad? 1277 00:49:37,683 --> 00:49:39,017 CRYSTAL: What is it? 1278 00:49:37,683 --> 00:49:39,017 -Quiet. 1279 00:49:48,778 --> 00:49:52,197 WILBUR: This is my land, 1280 00:49:48,778 --> 00:49:52,197 damn you! You get outta here! 1281 00:49:52,865 --> 00:49:56,494 Go on! Go on! 1282 00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:02,166 Sandra, girls, get on! 1283 00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:02,166 Go on, get in! Get in! 1284 00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:07,212 -I know you! 1285 00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:07,212 (coughs) 1286 00:50:28,901 --> 00:50:31,069 (soft music) 1287 00:50:43,415 --> 00:50:44,750 (clears throat) 1288 00:52:05,581 --> 00:52:07,165 (cookware clattering) 1289 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,011 Rob? 1290 00:52:27,061 --> 00:52:28,437 (clattering continues) 1291 00:52:44,536 --> 00:52:47,957 SARAH: Holy crap, Rob! 1292 00:52:44,536 --> 00:52:47,957 -What? 1293 00:52:47,999 --> 00:52:51,085 I thought someone 1294 00:52:47,999 --> 00:52:51,085 was breaking in. 1295 00:52:47,999 --> 00:52:51,085 For God's sakes! 1296 00:52:51,127 --> 00:52:52,503 No, it's just me. 1297 00:52:52,544 --> 00:52:54,713 Rob, you need to tell me 1298 00:52:52,544 --> 00:52:54,713 what in the hell's going on. 1299 00:52:55,422 --> 00:52:56,882 (Sarah breathing shakily) 1300 00:52:57,675 --> 00:52:59,259 We're being poisoned. 1301 00:53:01,846 --> 00:53:03,430 -Rob. 1302 00:53:01,846 --> 00:53:03,430 ROB: What? 1303 00:53:03,472 --> 00:53:07,143 I mean it. DuPont is 1304 00:53:03,472 --> 00:53:07,143 knowingly poisoning us. 1305 00:53:07,183 --> 00:53:09,603 You mean the farmer. His land. 1306 00:53:10,186 --> 00:53:11,605 ROB: All of us. 1307 00:53:13,524 --> 00:53:15,151 Please don't look at me 1308 00:53:13,524 --> 00:53:15,151 like that. 1309 00:53:16,485 --> 00:53:18,612 They're already 1310 00:53:16,485 --> 00:53:18,612 poisoning the baby. 1311 00:53:20,196 --> 00:53:22,908 -No. I'm not listening to this. 1312 00:53:20,196 --> 00:53:22,908 -Sarah. 1313 00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:25,369 SARAH: Stop it! 1314 00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:25,369 Just stop it, okay? 1315 00:53:25,410 --> 00:53:26,871 Do you hear yourself? 1316 00:53:26,912 --> 00:53:28,330 You are acting 1317 00:53:26,912 --> 00:53:28,330 like a crazy person. 1318 00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:31,542 Tearing up our floor. 1319 00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:31,542 Scaring me half to death. 1320 00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:33,418 I know it's my job 1321 00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:33,418 to support you, 1322 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:36,672 but that does not mean 1323 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:36,672 you get to come into our home, 1324 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:36,672 to our family 1325 00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:39,633 and tell me that 1326 00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:39,633 our unborn child 1327 00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:39,633 is being poisoned. No! 1328 00:53:39,675 --> 00:53:42,178 I'm sorry. Can I please explain? 1329 00:53:42,218 --> 00:53:44,220 SARAH: Explain what? 1330 00:53:42,218 --> 00:53:44,220 -All of it. 1331 00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:47,808 And if you still think 1332 00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:47,808 I'm crazy, I'll drop it. 1333 00:53:47,850 --> 00:53:49,143 I swear to God. 1334 00:53:51,603 --> 00:53:52,980 I swear to you. 1335 00:54:09,371 --> 00:54:11,623 There is a man-made chemical... 1336 00:54:12,958 --> 00:54:15,460 that was invented 1337 00:54:12,958 --> 00:54:15,460 during the Manhattan Project. 1338 00:54:16,378 --> 00:54:19,255 It repelled the elements, 1339 00:54:16,378 --> 00:54:19,255 especially water. 1340 00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:21,717 So they used it to make 1341 00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:21,717 the first ever 1342 00:54:21,759 --> 00:54:23,969 waterproof coating for tanks. 1343 00:54:24,011 --> 00:54:25,345 It was indestructible. 1344 00:54:25,387 --> 00:54:27,223 Then some companies thought, 1345 00:54:27,263 --> 00:54:29,683 "Hey, why just the battlefield? 1346 00:54:29,725 --> 00:54:33,229 Why not bring this chemical 1347 00:54:29,725 --> 00:54:33,229 into American homes?" 1348 00:54:33,269 --> 00:54:34,438 SECRETARY: Rob's here. 1349 00:54:34,479 --> 00:54:35,731 TOM: (on intercom) 1350 00:54:34,479 --> 00:54:35,731 All right. Good. 1351 00:54:36,272 --> 00:54:37,482 SECRETARY: He'll see you now. 1352 00:54:41,153 --> 00:54:43,447 ROB: DuPont was 1353 00:54:41,153 --> 00:54:43,447 one of those companies. 1354 00:54:44,782 --> 00:54:47,534 So they took 1355 00:54:44,782 --> 00:54:47,534 this chemical, PFOA. 1356 00:54:48,077 --> 00:54:49,787 They renamed it C8. 1357 00:54:50,746 --> 00:54:53,582 And they made their own 1358 00:54:50,746 --> 00:54:53,582 impenetrable coating, 1359 00:54:53,624 --> 00:54:56,376 but not for tanks. For pans. 1360 00:54:57,669 --> 00:54:59,630 They called it Teflon. 1361 00:55:00,256 --> 00:55:03,508 A shining symbol 1362 00:55:00,256 --> 00:55:03,508 of American ingenuity... 1363 00:55:03,550 --> 00:55:08,222 made right here in the USA 1364 00:55:03,550 --> 00:55:08,222 in Parkersburg, West Virginia. 1365 00:55:09,807 --> 00:55:12,143 But right from the start, 1366 00:55:09,807 --> 00:55:12,143 something wasn't right. 1367 00:55:12,893 --> 00:55:16,312 The men, and workers 1368 00:55:12,893 --> 00:55:16,312 who made Teflon 1369 00:55:16,354 --> 00:55:18,607 were coming down 1370 00:55:16,354 --> 00:55:18,607 with nausea, fevers. 1371 00:55:18,649 --> 00:55:20,234 DuPont wanted to know why. 1372 00:55:20,818 --> 00:55:23,528 So they laced cigarettes 1373 00:55:20,818 --> 00:55:23,528 with Teflon. 1374 00:55:23,570 --> 00:55:26,157 They told a group 1375 00:55:23,570 --> 00:55:26,157 of their workers, 1376 00:55:23,570 --> 00:55:26,157 "Hey, smoke these." 1377 00:55:26,698 --> 00:55:28,826 DuPonters did as 1378 00:55:26,698 --> 00:55:28,826 they were told. 1379 00:55:30,077 --> 00:55:32,579 Almost all of those men 1380 00:55:30,077 --> 00:55:32,579 were hospitalised. 1381 00:55:37,001 --> 00:55:38,669 That's 1962. 1382 00:55:38,710 --> 00:55:43,174 One year after Teflon launched 1383 00:55:38,710 --> 00:55:43,174 and already DuPont knew. 1384 00:55:43,215 --> 00:55:47,303 The dust, they just sent 1385 00:55:43,215 --> 00:55:47,303 right up the smoke stacks, 1386 00:55:43,215 --> 00:55:47,303 released into the air. 1387 00:55:47,845 --> 00:55:50,472 The sludge, tossed it 1388 00:55:47,845 --> 00:55:50,472 into the Ohio. 1389 00:55:50,514 --> 00:55:54,893 Or, uh, packed into 1390 00:55:50,514 --> 00:55:54,893 drums and chucked it 1391 00:55:50,514 --> 00:55:54,893 into the Chesapeake. 1392 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,230 But then their drums 1393 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,230 started washing up. 1394 00:55:58,272 --> 00:56:01,441 So, DuPont starts digging 1395 00:55:58,272 --> 00:56:01,441 ditches on the grounds of 1396 00:56:01,483 --> 00:56:04,862 the Washington Works plant. 1397 00:56:01,483 --> 00:56:04,862 And in those pits, they dumped 1398 00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:08,615 thousands of tons of 1399 00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:08,615 toxic C8 sludge and dust. 1400 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,994 One of the men that they hired 1401 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,994 to dig those ditches 1402 00:56:12,036 --> 00:56:14,997 was Wilbur Tennant's 1403 00:56:12,036 --> 00:56:14,997 brother Jim. 1404 00:56:15,956 --> 00:56:18,083 But they weren't the only ones 1405 00:56:15,956 --> 00:56:18,083 covering their tracks. 1406 00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:22,338 3M who pioneered these 1407 00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:22,338 chemicals for Scotchgard, 1408 00:56:22,378 --> 00:56:23,839 they were testing them 1409 00:56:22,378 --> 00:56:23,839 on monkeys. 1410 00:56:23,881 --> 00:56:25,507 Most of the monkeys died. 1411 00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:28,677 It wasn't like DuPont 1412 00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:28,677 didn't know that because 1413 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,180 they were doing 1414 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,180 their own tests on rats. 1415 00:56:31,930 --> 00:56:33,515 Watched their organs balloon. 1416 00:56:34,892 --> 00:56:37,311 Now the rats 1417 00:56:34,892 --> 00:56:37,311 are getting cancers. 1418 00:56:37,353 --> 00:56:40,689 Tested them on pregnant rats 1419 00:56:37,353 --> 00:56:40,689 and watched them give birth 1420 00:56:40,731 --> 00:56:43,359 to pups with deformed eyes. 1421 00:56:43,817 --> 00:56:47,445 So, they yanked 1422 00:56:43,817 --> 00:56:47,445 all the young women 1423 00:56:43,817 --> 00:56:47,445 off the Teflon line 1424 00:56:47,487 --> 00:56:49,073 and never told them why. 1425 00:56:49,114 --> 00:56:50,741 (heart monitor beeping) 1426 00:56:53,535 --> 00:56:57,873 Sue Bailey's job was scrubbing 1427 00:56:53,535 --> 00:56:57,873 these huge steel vats 1428 00:56:57,915 --> 00:57:00,918 where they held the liquid C8. 1429 00:56:57,915 --> 00:57:00,918 She was pregnant. 1430 00:57:01,335 --> 00:57:03,461 ROB: I love you! 1431 00:57:01,335 --> 00:57:03,461 SARAH: Would you stop. 1432 00:57:03,503 --> 00:57:04,713 (Sarah chuckles) 1433 00:57:05,672 --> 00:57:08,008 ROB: She gave birth to a baby 1434 00:57:08,050 --> 00:57:10,177 with one nostril 1435 00:57:08,050 --> 00:57:10,177 and a deformed eye. 1436 00:57:10,219 --> 00:57:14,098 Remember how DuPont had seen 1437 00:57:10,219 --> 00:57:14,098 those deformities in the rats? 1438 00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:17,642 Oh, God. 1439 00:57:17,684 --> 00:57:19,186 ROB: What about his eyes? 1440 00:57:19,228 --> 00:57:21,188 NURSE: Blue. 1441 00:57:19,228 --> 00:57:21,188 Just like all newborns. 1442 00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:23,648 But they're normal, 1443 00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:23,648 the lids, the pupils? 1444 00:57:23,690 --> 00:57:27,527 -Mr Bilott, relax. He's perfect. 1445 00:57:23,690 --> 00:57:27,527 (baby cries) 1446 00:57:27,569 --> 00:57:30,072 Ah. Hey. Hi, Charlie. 1447 00:57:30,114 --> 00:57:33,242 ROB: So Sue goes to DuPont. 1448 00:57:33,284 --> 00:57:35,827 She says, "Why did you pull me 1449 00:57:33,284 --> 00:57:35,827 off the Teflon line?" 1450 00:57:36,494 --> 00:57:38,956 "Did C8 make 1451 00:57:36,494 --> 00:57:38,956 my baby this way?" 1452 00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:40,958 "No," they tell her. 1453 00:57:40,999 --> 00:57:45,462 Then all of her records from 1454 00:57:40,999 --> 00:57:45,462 her time at Teflon disappear. 1455 00:57:45,503 --> 00:57:50,175 One year later, they put all 1456 00:57:45,503 --> 00:57:50,175 of the women back on Teflon 1457 00:57:50,217 --> 00:57:53,553 and never say a thing. 1458 00:57:59,643 --> 00:58:00,644 He's here. 1459 00:58:04,940 --> 00:58:06,900 ROB: DuPont knew everything. 1460 00:58:07,609 --> 00:58:11,071 They knew that the C8 1461 00:58:07,609 --> 00:58:11,071 they put into the air 1462 00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:14,825 and buried into the ground for 1463 00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:14,825 decades was causing cancers. 1464 00:58:14,866 --> 00:58:18,745 They knew that their own workers 1465 00:58:14,866 --> 00:58:18,745 were getting these cancers. 1466 00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:21,832 They knew that the consumers too 1467 00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:21,832 were being exposed 1468 00:58:21,873 --> 00:58:25,669 and not just in Teflon. 1469 00:58:21,873 --> 00:58:25,669 In paints, 1470 00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:30,466 in fabrics, 1471 00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:30,466 in raincoats, boots. 1472 00:58:31,633 --> 00:58:33,302 To this day. 1473 00:58:35,137 --> 00:58:38,432 For 40 years, 1474 00:58:35,137 --> 00:58:38,432 you knew C8 was poison. 1475 00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:42,560 You knew the "Happy Pan" 1476 00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:42,560 was a ticking time bomb. 1477 00:58:43,437 --> 00:58:45,605 And you knew exactly why. 1478 00:58:46,064 --> 00:58:48,442 Because C8, 1479 00:58:46,064 --> 00:58:48,442 it stays in us forever. 1480 00:58:48,484 --> 00:58:51,278 Our bodies are incapable 1481 00:58:48,484 --> 00:58:51,278 of breaking it down. 1482 00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:56,325 And knowing all of this, 1483 00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:56,325 still you did nothing because... 1484 00:58:56,825 --> 00:58:58,576 doing something, quote: 1485 00:58:59,786 --> 00:59:02,706 "would essentially put 1486 00:58:59,786 --> 00:59:02,706 the long-term viability 1487 00:59:02,747 --> 00:59:06,502 of this product's segment 1488 00:59:02,747 --> 00:59:06,502 on the line," end quote. 1489 00:59:09,587 --> 00:59:11,298 You were making too much money. 1490 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:16,094 One billion dollars a year 1491 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:16,094 just in profits, just in Teflon. 1492 00:59:17,221 --> 00:59:20,807 And so you pumped millions 1493 00:59:17,221 --> 00:59:20,807 more pounds 1494 00:59:20,849 --> 00:59:24,186 of toxic C8 into the air, 1495 00:59:20,849 --> 00:59:24,186 into the water 1496 00:59:24,228 --> 00:59:26,897 so much so you could 1497 00:59:24,228 --> 00:59:26,897 actually see it foam. 1498 00:59:27,981 --> 00:59:29,858 C8 was everywhere. 1499 00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:33,404 There was nowhere left for you 1500 00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:33,404 to contaminate. 1501 00:59:37,782 --> 00:59:39,576 And that's when 1502 00:59:37,782 --> 00:59:39,576 they came to Jim. 1503 00:59:40,618 --> 00:59:42,746 They knew he was sick 1504 00:59:40,618 --> 00:59:42,746 and needed the money 1505 00:59:42,787 --> 00:59:44,122 and they needed his land. 1506 00:59:44,915 --> 00:59:48,252 And when they got it, 1507 00:59:44,915 --> 00:59:48,252 they dug up all the C8 1508 00:59:48,293 --> 00:59:50,921 from every single pit 1509 00:59:48,293 --> 00:59:50,921 at Washington Works. 1510 00:59:50,962 --> 00:59:54,632 14 million pounds 1511 00:59:50,962 --> 00:59:54,632 of toxic C8 sludge 1512 00:59:54,674 --> 00:59:57,928 and they dumped it, again. 1513 00:59:54,674 --> 00:59:57,928 This time right up there. 1514 00:59:57,969 --> 01:00:00,347 Steps from your creek, 1515 00:59:57,969 --> 01:00:00,347 from your house. 1516 01:00:01,890 --> 01:00:04,435 That's what your cows 1517 01:00:01,890 --> 01:00:04,435 have been drinking, Earl. 1518 01:00:09,314 --> 01:00:10,899 Put 'em behind bars. 1519 01:00:11,567 --> 01:00:13,444 Whole damn lot of 'em, 1520 01:00:11,567 --> 01:00:13,444 right in jail. 1521 01:00:13,485 --> 01:00:14,945 I understand, believe me. 1522 01:00:14,986 --> 01:00:16,447 But this is a civil case. 1523 01:00:16,488 --> 01:00:18,115 The most we can hope for 1524 01:00:16,488 --> 01:00:18,115 is damages. 1525 01:00:18,156 --> 01:00:19,783 Don't want no money! 1526 01:00:20,409 --> 01:00:21,952 Whole damn world need... 1527 01:00:21,993 --> 01:00:24,288 (coughing) 1528 01:00:28,459 --> 01:00:31,503 -Needs to see what they done! 1529 01:00:28,459 --> 01:00:31,503 -You're right. They should. 1530 01:00:32,963 --> 01:00:35,090 And it kills me that they won't. 1531 01:00:36,674 --> 01:00:39,303 But that would mean 1532 01:00:36,674 --> 01:00:39,303 going to trial 1533 01:00:39,344 --> 01:00:41,846 and proving that C8 1534 01:00:39,344 --> 01:00:41,846 killed your cows. 1535 01:00:41,888 --> 01:00:44,600 And every scientist who knows 1536 01:00:41,888 --> 01:00:44,600 anything about any of this 1537 01:00:44,641 --> 01:00:46,768 already works 1538 01:00:44,641 --> 01:00:46,768 for these chemical companies. 1539 01:00:46,810 --> 01:00:48,645 That's not an accident, Earl. 1540 01:00:49,854 --> 01:00:53,942 Earl, these companies, 1541 01:00:49,854 --> 01:00:53,942 they have all the money, 1542 01:00:53,984 --> 01:00:56,987 all the time, 1543 01:00:53,984 --> 01:00:56,987 and they'll use it. Trust me. 1544 01:00:57,028 --> 01:00:58,655 I know. I was one of them. 1545 01:00:59,823 --> 01:01:01,408 WILBUR: You're still one of 'em. 1546 01:01:03,327 --> 01:01:04,536 (scoffs) 1547 01:01:05,329 --> 01:01:07,080 You can't be serious. 1548 01:01:07,747 --> 01:01:09,874 You know what I put 1549 01:01:07,747 --> 01:01:09,874 on the line here? 1550 01:01:09,916 --> 01:01:12,961 You want a prize? Some medal 1551 01:01:09,916 --> 01:01:12,961 'cause for once in your life 1552 01:01:13,003 --> 01:01:14,838 you took the side 1553 01:01:13,003 --> 01:01:14,838 of the little guy? 1554 01:01:15,964 --> 01:01:19,259 Sorry, no prize. All you get is 1555 01:01:15,964 --> 01:01:19,259 your share of this blood money. 1556 01:01:19,301 --> 01:01:20,969 And you sleep 1557 01:01:19,301 --> 01:01:20,969 real good tonight. 1558 01:01:21,011 --> 01:01:22,262 ROB: Talk to your family. 1559 01:01:23,138 --> 01:01:25,015 It ain't just my cows 1560 01:01:23,138 --> 01:01:25,015 was poisoned! 1561 01:01:25,056 --> 01:01:27,392 What you think I fed 1562 01:01:25,056 --> 01:01:27,392 my family on? 1563 01:01:27,434 --> 01:01:30,770 - Wilbur, please! 1564 01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:33,607 Leave this place! 1565 01:01:35,775 --> 01:01:39,530 Start over. Give your family 1566 01:01:35,775 --> 01:01:39,530 a fighting chance! 1567 01:01:39,571 --> 01:01:40,905 - Too late for that. 1568 01:01:44,493 --> 01:01:46,953 We got it, Sandra and me. 1569 01:01:44,493 --> 01:01:46,953 The cancer. 1570 01:01:48,705 --> 01:01:50,165 Surprise, surprise. 1571 01:02:16,358 --> 01:02:18,318 (bicycle bells ringing) 1572 01:02:46,638 --> 01:02:47,931 SARAH: In here. 1573 01:02:54,271 --> 01:02:55,772 How'd it go? 1574 01:02:56,898 --> 01:02:58,108 (Rob sighs deeply) 1575 01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,693 What's wrong? 1576 01:03:00,402 --> 01:03:01,653 Rob? 1577 01:03:02,654 --> 01:03:03,947 Rob, what is it? 1578 01:03:09,745 --> 01:03:11,580 What happened? What happened? 1579 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,165 Oh, honey, honey, honey. 1580 01:03:15,751 --> 01:03:17,711 You saw a man hurting and... 1581 01:03:19,921 --> 01:03:22,799 ...you did the Christian thing. 1582 01:03:19,921 --> 01:03:22,799 You helped him. 1583 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,178 How? How? 1584 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,178 Either he dies penniless 1585 01:03:27,220 --> 01:03:30,348 or he lets DuPont just 1586 01:03:27,220 --> 01:03:30,348 keep pillaging his community. 1587 01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:31,975 How is that helping? 1588 01:03:36,187 --> 01:03:37,731 Gotta get some sleep. 1589 01:03:48,784 --> 01:03:51,035 (scoffs) 1590 01:03:48,784 --> 01:03:51,035 SARAH: I can't believe 1591 01:03:51,077 --> 01:03:53,246 a freaking case settlement 1592 01:03:51,077 --> 01:03:53,246 could shut this up. 1593 01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:58,293 ROB: Have you read their 1594 01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:58,293 confidentiality agreements? 1595 01:03:59,169 --> 01:04:02,005 SARAH: You've uncovered 1596 01:03:59,169 --> 01:04:02,005 a threat to the public. 1597 01:04:02,046 --> 01:04:04,591 This goes beyond lawyering. 1598 01:04:04,633 --> 01:04:07,051 ROB: That's all I know 1599 01:04:04,633 --> 01:04:07,051 is lawyering. 1600 01:04:07,093 --> 01:04:09,053 SARAH: Fine. Then be the lawyer. 1601 01:04:09,721 --> 01:04:11,264 You know DuPont 1602 01:04:09,721 --> 01:04:11,264 better than anyone. 1603 01:04:11,306 --> 01:04:12,974 What haven't they thought of? 1604 01:04:20,398 --> 01:04:22,442 (computer chiming) 1605 01:04:31,451 --> 01:04:33,453 (typing) 1606 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,786 (gasps) 1607 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,786 -Jesus, Mary and Joseph! 1608 01:05:14,828 --> 01:05:19,165 -What is that? 1609 01:05:14,828 --> 01:05:19,165 ROB: A memo and 136 exhibits. 1610 01:05:20,834 --> 01:05:22,544 (machine whirring) 1611 01:05:51,698 --> 01:05:54,200 ROB: Wil, Sandra, 1612 01:05:51,698 --> 01:05:54,200 this is your copy. 1613 01:06:03,752 --> 01:06:05,211 (phone beeps) 1614 01:06:14,471 --> 01:06:16,222 ROB: The EPA announced 1615 01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:18,141 a public hearing 1616 01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:18,141 into this family of chemicals 1617 01:06:18,182 --> 01:06:19,476 I've been looking into. 1618 01:06:19,517 --> 01:06:20,769 I heard about it from Tucker. 1619 01:06:20,811 --> 01:06:23,104 TOM: Monsanto Tucker? 1620 01:06:20,811 --> 01:06:23,104 -Union Carbide now. 1621 01:06:23,146 --> 01:06:25,106 He says to me, 1622 01:06:23,146 --> 01:06:25,106 "Is it true that a Taft lawyer 1623 01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:27,442 sent a phone book's worth of 1624 01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:27,442 confidential DuPont documents 1625 01:06:27,484 --> 01:06:29,026 to the entire 1626 01:06:27,484 --> 01:06:29,026 Federal Government?" 1627 01:06:29,068 --> 01:06:31,571 Internal documents, 1628 01:06:29,068 --> 01:06:31,571 not confidential. 1629 01:06:29,068 --> 01:06:31,571 Very different. 1630 01:06:31,613 --> 01:06:33,990 -So you're testifying. 1631 01:06:31,613 --> 01:06:33,990 ROB: I signed up to testify. 1632 01:06:34,031 --> 01:06:37,118 And the next thing I hear is 1633 01:06:34,031 --> 01:06:37,118 DuPont has petitioned a judge 1634 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,746 to stop me from testifying, 1635 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,746 from flying to DC 1636 01:06:39,788 --> 01:06:41,205 from even picking up 1637 01:06:39,788 --> 01:06:41,205 the phone... 1638 01:06:41,247 --> 01:06:42,749 -They filed for a gag order. 1639 01:06:41,247 --> 01:06:42,749 ROB: Yes! 1640 01:06:42,791 --> 01:06:44,835 -This is what we're up against. 1641 01:06:42,791 --> 01:06:44,835 DAVID: (scoffs) Jesus. 1642 01:06:44,876 --> 01:06:46,127 TOM: David. 1643 01:06:44,876 --> 01:06:46,127 -Come on, Tom. 1644 01:06:46,169 --> 01:06:47,587 -What do you expect? 1645 01:06:46,169 --> 01:06:47,587 TOM: Where do we stand? 1646 01:06:47,629 --> 01:06:49,589 Well, the judge rejected 1647 01:06:47,629 --> 01:06:49,589 the gag order, 1648 01:06:49,631 --> 01:06:51,341 so I fly out Monday. 1649 01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:52,509 Nice. 1650 01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:54,928 I guess we'll just 1651 01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:54,928 watch on C-SPAN. 1652 01:06:57,096 --> 01:06:58,890 You ever do anything 1653 01:06:57,096 --> 01:06:58,890 like this again, 1654 01:06:58,932 --> 01:07:01,810 I will cut your balls off 1655 01:06:58,932 --> 01:07:01,810 and serve them to DuPont myself. 1656 01:07:02,602 --> 01:07:04,145 Get outta here. 1657 01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:08,692 Good luck in Washington. 1658 01:07:09,776 --> 01:07:10,944 Thanks, Tom. 1659 01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:15,448 ROB: (on TV) This material 1660 01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:15,448 is a perfluoro, 1661 01:07:15,490 --> 01:07:17,492 or a PFOA. 1662 01:07:17,534 --> 01:07:21,287 It's also known as FC 143... 1663 01:07:21,955 --> 01:07:25,625 ammonium perfluorooctanoates. 1664 01:07:25,667 --> 01:07:30,338 It has been shown 1665 01:07:25,667 --> 01:07:30,338 by DuPont's own science 1666 01:07:31,255 --> 01:07:33,466 that PFOA C8... 1667 01:07:34,342 --> 01:07:38,805 is possibly life threatening 1668 01:07:34,342 --> 01:07:38,805 to human health. 1669 01:07:38,847 --> 01:07:42,225 We are asking this agency 1670 01:07:42,266 --> 01:07:44,019 to do something. 1671 01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:07,291 ...the Presidential election 1672 01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:07,291 in four decades. 1673 01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:08,418 (door opens and closes) 1674 01:08:08,459 --> 01:08:09,878 Just look at these 1675 01:08:08,459 --> 01:08:09,878 latest polls. 1676 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,838 JOE: Did you forget 1677 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,838 to pay the water bill? 1678 01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:13,840 WOMAN: What? 1679 01:08:13,882 --> 01:08:15,550 JOE: You forget to pay 1680 01:08:13,882 --> 01:08:15,550 the water bill? 1681 01:08:17,343 --> 01:08:18,469 No. 1682 01:08:19,387 --> 01:08:20,931 We got a notice. 1683 01:08:21,472 --> 01:08:22,849 What's it say? 1684 01:08:24,225 --> 01:08:28,229 Uh, PFOA is a persistent 1685 01:08:24,225 --> 01:08:28,229 chemical 1686 01:08:28,271 --> 01:08:30,857 that is slow to be eliminated 1687 01:08:28,271 --> 01:08:30,857 from the blood stream of people 1688 01:08:30,899 --> 01:08:32,984 who have been exposed to it. 1689 01:08:33,026 --> 01:08:36,863 The DuPont company has advised 1690 01:08:33,026 --> 01:08:36,863 the Lubeck Water District 1691 01:08:36,905 --> 01:08:39,240 that low concentrations 1692 01:08:36,905 --> 01:08:39,240 have been found 1693 01:08:39,282 --> 01:08:41,242 in the district's wells. 1694 01:08:41,284 --> 01:08:42,953 DuPont has advised the district 1695 01:08:42,994 --> 01:08:45,747 that it is confident 1696 01:08:42,994 --> 01:08:45,747 these levels are safe. 1697 01:08:46,873 --> 01:08:49,125 What the hell does that mean? 1698 01:08:50,794 --> 01:08:52,712 (baby babbling) 1699 01:08:50,794 --> 01:08:52,712 JOE: A letter came last fall. 1700 01:08:53,129 --> 01:08:55,506 Made no sense to me, 1701 01:08:53,129 --> 01:08:55,506 so I started making calls. 1702 01:08:55,548 --> 01:08:58,093 DARLENE: I told Joe don't kick 1703 01:08:55,548 --> 01:08:58,093 that hornet's nest. 1704 01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:00,971 It's not like we didn't know 1705 01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:00,971 what we'd signed up for. 1706 01:09:02,263 --> 01:09:03,598 What do you mean? 1707 01:09:04,181 --> 01:09:06,893 Oh, I was married before Joe 1708 01:09:06,935 --> 01:09:09,312 to a chemist at DuPont. 1709 01:09:09,353 --> 01:09:11,272 Dream job. Paid real well. 1710 01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:14,275 And the perks! 1711 01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:14,275 Presents for no reason. 1712 01:09:14,317 --> 01:09:17,654 We'd get this catalogue. 1713 01:09:14,317 --> 01:09:17,654 Just pick whatever you want. 1714 01:09:18,863 --> 01:09:23,242 And little stuff. 1715 01:09:18,863 --> 01:09:23,242 Like he'd bring home the soap, 1716 01:09:18,863 --> 01:09:23,242 this miracle powder. 1717 01:09:23,284 --> 01:09:25,411 You put it 1718 01:09:23,284 --> 01:09:25,411 in the washing machine 1719 01:09:23,284 --> 01:09:25,411 or the dishwasher 1720 01:09:25,453 --> 01:09:27,705 just wipes stuff clean 1721 01:09:25,453 --> 01:09:27,705 like you would not believe. 1722 01:09:28,414 --> 01:09:30,959 One day he comes home and says, 1723 01:09:31,001 --> 01:09:32,877 "Can't bring that stuff 1724 01:09:31,001 --> 01:09:32,877 home no more." 1725 01:09:32,919 --> 01:09:34,796 "Why?" Won't tell me. 1726 01:09:34,838 --> 01:09:37,256 Then he'd get sick for weeks. 1727 01:09:37,841 --> 01:09:40,135 The Teflon flu, 1728 01:09:37,841 --> 01:09:40,135 the guys would call it. 1729 01:09:40,677 --> 01:09:42,887 We knew something wasn't right. 1730 01:09:43,346 --> 01:09:46,474 But this house, we bought it 1731 01:09:46,516 --> 01:09:49,102 just by showing the bank 1732 01:09:46,516 --> 01:09:49,102 my husband's DuPont ID. 1733 01:09:49,602 --> 01:09:52,981 Put both our kids 1734 01:09:49,602 --> 01:09:52,981 through college. Engineers. 1735 01:09:54,231 --> 01:09:57,318 In this town, that doesn't come 1736 01:09:54,231 --> 01:09:57,318 without a price. 1737 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,196 JOE: My brother Kenny 1738 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,196 didn't know that price. 1739 01:10:00,237 --> 01:10:02,573 He joined DuPont at 19. 1740 01:10:02,615 --> 01:10:05,242 Died on the operating table 1741 01:10:02,615 --> 01:10:05,242 two years later. 1742 01:10:05,284 --> 01:10:06,494 Ulcerative colitis. 1743 01:10:06,536 --> 01:10:08,163 DARLENE: Just like 1744 01:10:06,536 --> 01:10:08,163 Dan Schiller had. 1745 01:10:08,204 --> 01:10:09,747 Who's Dan? 1746 01:10:09,789 --> 01:10:12,458 DARLENE: A chemist at DuPont. 1747 01:10:09,789 --> 01:10:12,458 Worked with my ex-husband. 1748 01:10:13,334 --> 01:10:17,380 JOE: And Roger, what's his name? 1749 01:10:13,334 --> 01:10:17,380 DARLENE: Wilkins, the foreman. 1750 01:10:17,421 --> 01:10:19,674 Steven Gellar. Randy Field. 1751 01:10:19,716 --> 01:10:22,385 Randy's was kidney cancer. 1752 01:10:19,716 --> 01:10:22,385 He survived. 1753 01:10:22,426 --> 01:10:25,013 -His wife didn't. 1754 01:10:22,426 --> 01:10:25,013 -No, June's was thyroid. 1755 01:10:25,055 --> 01:10:26,931 It was supposed 1756 01:10:25,055 --> 01:10:26,931 to be treatable. 1757 01:10:26,973 --> 01:10:28,474 They didn't catch it in time. 1758 01:10:28,516 --> 01:10:30,852 But they caught it in their son. 1759 01:10:31,686 --> 01:10:34,814 ROB: (hesitates) 1760 01:10:31,686 --> 01:10:34,814 Were your children born healthy? 1761 01:10:34,856 --> 01:10:37,067 -Yes. Yes, they were. 1762 01:10:34,856 --> 01:10:37,067 ROB: Good. 1763 01:10:37,108 --> 01:10:41,154 But we wanted a third 1764 01:10:37,108 --> 01:10:41,154 and couldn't. 1765 01:10:41,196 --> 01:10:42,780 I went to my doctor. 1766 01:10:42,822 --> 01:10:45,449 He says, 1767 01:10:42,822 --> 01:10:45,449 "You need a hysterectomy, 1768 01:10:42,822 --> 01:10:45,449 you need it right away." 1769 01:10:47,284 --> 01:10:49,829 -I'm so sorry. 1770 01:10:47,284 --> 01:10:49,829 DARLENE: Bad luck, I guess. 1771 01:10:51,497 --> 01:10:52,999 I was 36. 1772 01:10:54,625 --> 01:10:58,046 ROB: Mr Kiger, you think I could 1773 01:10:54,625 --> 01:10:58,046 get a copy of that letter? 1774 01:11:10,516 --> 01:11:11,768 What's wrong with your hand? 1775 01:11:12,936 --> 01:11:14,353 ROB: Nothing. It's fine. 1776 01:11:19,984 --> 01:11:21,569 SARAH: Whoa. Rob? 1777 01:11:23,821 --> 01:11:25,907 Rob, what are you doing? 1778 01:11:27,075 --> 01:11:29,827 I mean, it's not enough 1779 01:11:27,075 --> 01:11:29,827 to poison these people? 1780 01:11:29,869 --> 01:11:31,412 They gotta swindle them too? 1781 01:11:31,454 --> 01:11:33,206 Okay, calm down. All right? 1782 01:11:33,248 --> 01:11:34,665 DuPont wrote that letter! 1783 01:11:34,707 --> 01:11:36,751 -Not the water authority. 1784 01:11:34,707 --> 01:11:36,751 -How do you know that? 1785 01:11:36,793 --> 01:11:39,754 You think I don't know 1786 01:11:36,793 --> 01:11:39,754 what a DuPont letter 1787 01:11:36,793 --> 01:11:39,754 looks like by now? 1788 01:11:39,796 --> 01:11:41,047 Okay. Okay. 1789 01:11:41,547 --> 01:11:42,799 I mean, Jesus! 1790 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,259 -It's evil, Sarah. 1791 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,259 (baby crying) 1792 01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:46,510 It's fucking evil! 1793 01:11:46,552 --> 01:11:48,763 What's fack? 1794 01:11:49,597 --> 01:11:52,725 Perfect. It's nothing, sweetie. 1795 01:11:49,597 --> 01:11:52,725 It's nothing. Oh, boy. 1796 01:11:52,767 --> 01:11:54,102 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, honey. 1797 01:11:54,144 --> 01:11:55,645 SARAH: Can you give Charlie 1798 01:11:54,144 --> 01:11:55,645 the bottle, please? 1799 01:11:55,686 --> 01:11:58,273 -Where's his bottle? 1800 01:11:55,686 --> 01:11:58,273 SARAH: It's in the bag. 1801 01:11:58,314 --> 01:12:00,775 SARAH: What is all this? 1802 01:11:58,314 --> 01:12:00,775 ROB: It's from Grammer's. 1803 01:12:00,817 --> 01:12:02,735 It was left in her mailbox. 1804 01:12:03,861 --> 01:12:05,113 SARAH: "Medical claims, 1805 01:12:03,861 --> 01:12:05,113 now and forever"? 1806 01:12:05,155 --> 01:12:06,823 ROB: Here, bud. 1807 01:12:05,155 --> 01:12:06,823 SARAH: "Now and forever." 1808 01:12:06,864 --> 01:12:10,785 Is that... that medical 1809 01:12:06,864 --> 01:12:10,785 monitoring. Is that... 1810 01:12:12,620 --> 01:12:14,538 I thought you said 1811 01:12:12,620 --> 01:12:14,538 that wasn't gonna pass? 1812 01:12:17,458 --> 01:12:19,877 TOM: Morning. 1813 01:12:17,458 --> 01:12:19,877 DAVID: Guys. 1814 01:12:20,837 --> 01:12:22,630 (indistinct conversation) 1815 01:12:26,717 --> 01:12:30,221 ROB: Our lead plaintiff 1816 01:12:26,717 --> 01:12:30,221 is Mr Joe Kiger. 1817 01:12:30,263 --> 01:12:33,557 Potential plaintiff, 1818 01:12:30,263 --> 01:12:33,557 if the partnership approves. 1819 01:12:33,599 --> 01:12:38,062 Mr Joe Kiger, a Phys Ed teacher 1820 01:12:33,599 --> 01:12:38,062 from Parkersburg, West Virginia 1821 01:12:38,104 --> 01:12:42,608 on behalf of the 70,000 1822 01:12:38,104 --> 01:12:42,608 local residents 1823 01:12:42,650 --> 01:12:46,988 whose water DuPont knowingly 1824 01:12:42,650 --> 01:12:46,988 poisoned for the last 40 years. 1825 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:49,365 -A class action? 1826 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:49,365 -Let him finish. 1827 01:12:49,406 --> 01:12:51,242 ROB: The Kigers were notified 1828 01:12:51,284 --> 01:12:54,704 by their local water company 1829 01:12:51,284 --> 01:12:54,704 that DuPont had found 1830 01:12:54,745 --> 01:12:58,499 small concentrations of C8 1831 01:12:54,745 --> 01:12:58,499 in their water supply, 1832 01:12:58,541 --> 01:13:03,546 but not to worry because 1833 01:12:58,541 --> 01:13:03,546 those concentrations were safe. 1834 01:13:03,587 --> 01:13:06,423 Why? Because DuPont said so. 1835 01:13:10,678 --> 01:13:13,181 This is what DuPont 1836 01:13:10,678 --> 01:13:13,181 considers safe. 1837 01:13:13,223 --> 01:13:16,142 That's something like 1838 01:13:13,223 --> 01:13:16,142 one drop of water 1839 01:13:16,184 --> 01:13:18,269 in an Olympic-size 1840 01:13:16,184 --> 01:13:18,269 swimming pool. 1841 01:13:18,311 --> 01:13:22,773 In other words, even a trace 1842 01:13:18,311 --> 01:13:22,773 of C8 renders water unsafe. 1843 01:13:22,815 --> 01:13:25,484 But DuPont told 1844 01:13:22,815 --> 01:13:25,484 the local water authority, 1845 01:13:25,526 --> 01:13:28,445 "Don't worry. Your wells 1846 01:13:25,526 --> 01:13:28,445 have got even less than that." 1847 01:13:28,487 --> 01:13:30,614 ROB: Except that was a lie. 1848 01:13:28,487 --> 01:13:30,614 -A lie? 1849 01:13:30,656 --> 01:13:34,827 Yes. DuPont has been secretly 1850 01:13:30,656 --> 01:13:34,827 testing these wells for decades. 1851 01:13:34,869 --> 01:13:37,830 They knew they had contaminated 1852 01:13:34,869 --> 01:13:37,830 those wells 1853 01:13:37,872 --> 01:13:40,958 up to six times that level. 1854 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,544 And thanks to the Tennant case, 1855 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,544 now we know, too. 1856 01:13:43,586 --> 01:13:46,381 DAVID: Hold on. This stuff 1857 01:13:43,586 --> 01:13:46,381 is unregulated, right? 1858 01:13:46,422 --> 01:13:48,132 I mean, as far 1859 01:13:46,422 --> 01:13:48,132 as EPA's concerned, 1860 01:13:48,174 --> 01:13:49,967 it might as well be rose petals. 1861 01:13:50,009 --> 01:13:54,138 The EPA hasn't set a standard, 1862 01:13:50,009 --> 01:13:54,138 that's true. But DuPont did. 1863 01:13:54,180 --> 01:13:57,100 And all the law requires 1864 01:13:54,180 --> 01:13:57,100 to win a case like this 1865 01:13:57,141 --> 01:13:59,476 is to show that DuPont exceeded 1866 01:13:59,518 --> 01:14:03,106 what DuPont itself 1867 01:13:59,518 --> 01:14:03,106 considers safe. Self-regulation. 1868 01:14:03,147 --> 01:14:04,481 MANAGING PARTNER: If what 1869 01:14:03,147 --> 01:14:04,481 you're saying is right... 1870 01:14:04,523 --> 01:14:05,816 It is right. 1871 01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:07,151 MANAGING PARTNER: 1872 01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:07,151 ...then why would DuPont 1873 01:14:07,193 --> 01:14:08,986 tell this water district 1874 01:14:07,193 --> 01:14:08,986 anything at all? 1875 01:14:09,028 --> 01:14:12,531 Seems to me that they're being 1876 01:14:09,028 --> 01:14:12,531 a good corporate citizen here. 1877 01:14:12,573 --> 01:14:15,952 That's how long you have 1878 01:14:12,573 --> 01:14:15,952 to file suit. 1879 01:14:15,993 --> 01:14:20,373 One year from the moment 1880 01:14:15,993 --> 01:14:20,373 you realise your water's 1881 01:14:15,993 --> 01:14:20,373 been contaminated. 1882 01:14:20,415 --> 01:14:24,668 This letter looks like 1883 01:14:20,415 --> 01:14:24,668 it's telling people 1884 01:14:20,415 --> 01:14:24,668 their water is safe. 1885 01:14:24,710 --> 01:14:27,797 In fact, it's notifying 1886 01:14:24,710 --> 01:14:27,797 them that it isn't. 1887 01:14:27,838 --> 01:14:30,674 -DuPont has started the clock. 1888 01:14:27,838 --> 01:14:30,674 DAVID: Smart. 1889 01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:32,843 We would've counselled that. 1890 01:14:32,885 --> 01:14:35,430 ROB: It was sent 11 months ago. 1891 01:14:35,471 --> 01:14:37,890 The moment they realised 1892 01:14:35,471 --> 01:14:37,890 we knew. 1893 01:14:37,932 --> 01:14:40,310 In 30 days, they're home free. 1894 01:14:40,351 --> 01:14:43,020 So that's the proposed 1895 01:14:40,351 --> 01:14:43,020 case in brief. 1896 01:14:43,062 --> 01:14:44,730 But there's something else 1897 01:14:43,062 --> 01:14:44,730 to consider. 1898 01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:47,233 PARTNER: You think? 1899 01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:47,233 TOM: Rob. 1900 01:14:47,942 --> 01:14:50,820 C8 bio-accumulates. 1901 01:14:47,942 --> 01:14:50,820 It builds up inside of us. 1902 01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:55,825 Some class members 1903 01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:55,825 who aren't sick today 1904 01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:55,825 will get sick tomorrow. 1905 01:14:55,866 --> 01:14:58,744 We need a way to protect them 1906 01:14:55,866 --> 01:14:58,744 into the future. 1907 01:14:58,786 --> 01:15:01,247 Jesus, Tom! If you're even 1908 01:14:58,786 --> 01:15:01,247 thinking about using medical... 1909 01:15:01,289 --> 01:15:03,416 -Hold on. Hold on. 1910 01:15:01,289 --> 01:15:03,416 (indistinct mumbling) 1911 01:15:03,458 --> 01:15:08,171 Medical monitoring 1912 01:15:03,458 --> 01:15:08,171 is a claim now permitted 1913 01:15:03,458 --> 01:15:08,171 in West Virginia courts. 1914 01:15:08,212 --> 01:15:10,256 PARTNER: Oh, come on. 1915 01:15:08,212 --> 01:15:10,256 -Let's hear him out. 1916 01:15:10,298 --> 01:15:13,343 It says if a company 1917 01:15:10,298 --> 01:15:13,343 exposes a community 1918 01:15:13,384 --> 01:15:15,094 to something 1919 01:15:13,384 --> 01:15:15,094 that makes them sick, 1920 01:15:15,136 --> 01:15:18,181 they must monitor the health 1921 01:15:15,136 --> 01:15:18,181 of that community indefinitely. 1922 01:15:18,222 --> 01:15:22,268 Everybody get that? 1923 01:15:18,222 --> 01:15:22,268 You're creating liability 1924 01:15:18,222 --> 01:15:22,268 from mere exposure. 1925 01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:23,936 MANAGING PARTNER: 1926 01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:23,936 It's also unprecedented. 1927 01:15:23,978 --> 01:15:25,104 DAVID: Exactly! 1928 01:15:25,146 --> 01:15:26,481 Which is why 1929 01:15:25,146 --> 01:15:26,481 not six months ago, 1930 01:15:26,522 --> 01:15:27,898 we fought tooth and nail 1931 01:15:26,522 --> 01:15:27,898 against it. 1932 01:15:27,940 --> 01:15:30,734 And you lost. 1933 01:15:27,940 --> 01:15:30,734 Our clients have the right 1934 01:15:30,776 --> 01:15:32,653 to avail themselves of the law. 1935 01:15:32,695 --> 01:15:34,780 Potential clients. 1936 01:15:38,951 --> 01:15:40,911 JAMES: Uh, okay. Um... 1937 01:15:40,953 --> 01:15:42,705 I... I know you, Rob. 1938 01:15:42,746 --> 01:15:44,457 I know your passion. 1939 01:15:44,499 --> 01:15:47,377 You got a great settlement 1940 01:15:44,499 --> 01:15:47,377 for your farmer. 1941 01:15:47,418 --> 01:15:48,878 You should be proud of that. 1942 01:15:49,462 --> 01:15:53,383 And perhaps 1943 01:15:49,462 --> 01:15:53,383 as the newest partner 1944 01:15:49,462 --> 01:15:53,383 at this table, 1945 01:15:53,424 --> 01:15:55,092 I should be more circumspect. 1946 01:15:55,134 --> 01:15:59,514 But what he's proposing here is 1947 01:15:59,555 --> 01:16:02,016 nothing less than a shakedown 1948 01:16:02,058 --> 01:16:05,686 -of an iconic American company. 1949 01:16:02,058 --> 01:16:05,686 -We do not represent DuPont. 1950 01:16:05,728 --> 01:16:07,397 No, you don't represent anyone. 1951 01:16:08,814 --> 01:16:10,900 Is this what we have become? 1952 01:16:10,941 --> 01:16:13,277 Plaintiff's attorneys. 1953 01:16:10,941 --> 01:16:13,277 Ambulance chasers. 1954 01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,530 I mean, why don't you 1955 01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,530 just admit it? 1956 01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,530 Rob, you wanna flip. 1957 01:16:15,571 --> 01:16:17,698 You wanna take everything 1958 01:16:15,571 --> 01:16:17,698 that you know 1959 01:16:17,740 --> 01:16:20,034 about how chemical 1960 01:16:17,740 --> 01:16:20,034 companies operate 1961 01:16:20,076 --> 01:16:22,953 and turn it against DuPont. 1962 01:16:20,076 --> 01:16:22,953 Like an informant. 1963 01:16:22,995 --> 01:16:24,247 That's enough. Okay! 1964 01:16:24,288 --> 01:16:25,415 JAMES: Isn't that right? 1965 01:16:24,288 --> 01:16:25,415 Isn't that right? 1966 01:16:25,456 --> 01:16:27,291 -Isn't that right? 1967 01:16:25,456 --> 01:16:27,291 -Yes. 1968 01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:30,711 Okay, then, I say we take a vote 1969 01:16:30,753 --> 01:16:34,798 and determine whether or not 1970 01:16:30,753 --> 01:16:34,798 we continue in the tradition 1971 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,385 that has distinguished this firm 1972 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,385 from everyone else... 1973 01:16:37,427 --> 01:16:39,136 TOM: Okay, 1974 01:16:37,427 --> 01:16:39,136 I'm running this meeting. 1975 01:16:39,178 --> 01:16:41,431 Okay? You got that? 1976 01:16:41,472 --> 01:16:42,557 (sighs) 1977 01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:43,849 Has anyone even read 1978 01:16:43,891 --> 01:16:45,226 the evidence this man 1979 01:16:43,891 --> 01:16:45,226 has collected? 1980 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:48,645 The willful negligence, 1981 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:48,645 the corruption? 1982 01:16:49,897 --> 01:16:51,065 Read it! 1983 01:16:51,815 --> 01:16:53,943 And then tell me we should be 1984 01:16:51,815 --> 01:16:53,943 sitting on our asses! 1985 01:16:54,402 --> 01:16:58,489 That's the reason why 1986 01:16:54,402 --> 01:16:58,489 Americans hate lawyers. 1987 01:16:59,073 --> 01:17:02,034 This is the crap that fuels 1988 01:16:59,073 --> 01:17:02,034 the Ralph Naders of the world. 1989 01:17:02,076 --> 01:17:04,870 We should want to nail DuPont. 1990 01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:07,248 All of us should! 1991 01:17:07,915 --> 01:17:10,084 American business 1992 01:17:07,915 --> 01:17:10,084 is better than this, gentlemen. 1993 01:17:10,126 --> 01:17:13,087 And when it's not, 1994 01:17:10,126 --> 01:17:13,087 we should hold them to it. 1995 01:17:13,129 --> 01:17:14,964 That's how you build faith 1996 01:17:13,129 --> 01:17:14,964 in the system. 1997 01:17:16,299 --> 01:17:19,385 We're always arguing 1998 01:17:16,299 --> 01:17:19,385 that companies are people. 1999 01:17:20,177 --> 01:17:23,722 Well, these people 2000 01:17:20,177 --> 01:17:23,722 have crossed the line! 2001 01:17:24,890 --> 01:17:26,225 To hell with them! 2002 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:32,106 HARRY: It may come as a surprise 2003 01:17:32,148 --> 01:17:34,567 to corporate defence types 2004 01:17:32,148 --> 01:17:34,567 like yourselves, 2005 01:17:34,609 --> 01:17:36,819 but there's more to the law 2006 01:17:34,609 --> 01:17:36,819 than just flooding 2007 01:17:36,860 --> 01:17:38,362 the other side in papers. 2008 01:17:38,404 --> 01:17:41,782 From where I sit, 2009 01:17:38,404 --> 01:17:41,782 you have to touch people. 2010 01:17:41,824 --> 01:17:44,410 These girls, 2011 01:17:41,824 --> 01:17:44,410 they handle the calls 2012 01:17:44,452 --> 01:17:46,454 from the class action members. 2013 01:17:46,496 --> 01:17:49,415 And there's thousands of 'em 2014 01:17:46,496 --> 01:17:49,415 on any given case. 2015 01:17:49,457 --> 01:17:52,918 And it's here that we come 2016 01:17:49,457 --> 01:17:52,918 to know their pain. 2017 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,629 Isn't that right, Hazel? 2018 01:17:55,087 --> 01:17:57,714 Yes. We hear it every day 2019 01:17:57,756 --> 01:18:01,051 and it's my job to make 2020 01:17:57,756 --> 01:18:01,051 a jury feel that pain. 2021 01:18:01,093 --> 01:18:03,929 Not outta pity, but outta fear. 2022 01:18:03,971 --> 01:18:06,599 Whatever it is 2023 01:18:03,971 --> 01:18:06,599 that happened to my client, 2024 01:18:06,641 --> 01:18:08,392 that juror has to think, 2025 01:18:09,143 --> 01:18:11,145 "That could happen to me." 2026 01:18:11,187 --> 01:18:12,438 ROB: You just keep hammering it. 2027 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,565 One part per billion. 2028 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,565 One part per billion. 2029 01:18:14,607 --> 01:18:17,026 It's their own documents. 2030 01:18:14,607 --> 01:18:17,026 Their own scientists. 2031 01:18:17,067 --> 01:18:18,528 HARRY: Absolutely. 2032 01:18:18,569 --> 01:18:20,988 ROB: They set that standard, 2033 01:18:18,569 --> 01:18:20,988 they have to live with it. 2034 01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:23,324 Yeah, I think we can relax, 2035 01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:23,324 Rob, though. 2036 01:18:23,366 --> 01:18:25,075 There's no way 2037 01:18:23,366 --> 01:18:25,075 they're gonna prevail 2038 01:18:25,117 --> 01:18:26,743 with a motion to dismiss. 2039 01:18:26,785 --> 01:18:28,329 This is procedural... 2040 01:18:28,371 --> 01:18:30,289 it's nonsense. 2041 01:18:28,371 --> 01:18:30,289 We'll get a trial today. 2042 01:18:32,416 --> 01:18:33,959 ROB: Okay, I'll catch you guys 2043 01:18:32,416 --> 01:18:33,959 in there. 2044 01:18:38,755 --> 01:18:40,383 MAN: I wouldn't drink that. 2045 01:18:43,553 --> 01:18:44,720 ROB: Earl. 2046 01:18:46,847 --> 01:18:48,140 How ya doing? 2047 01:18:48,974 --> 01:18:50,267 Still here. 2048 01:18:51,977 --> 01:18:53,437 That's somethin', right? 2049 01:18:54,730 --> 01:18:56,273 ROB: Yes, that's something. 2050 01:18:57,441 --> 01:18:58,775 Good to see ya, Robbie. 2051 01:19:02,196 --> 01:19:06,409 Can't let 'em shut you down. 2052 01:19:08,202 --> 01:19:10,996 I won't. I promise. 2053 01:19:11,497 --> 01:19:13,040 Whole world... 2054 01:19:14,458 --> 01:19:16,001 needs to know. 2055 01:19:18,379 --> 01:19:21,257 They will, Earl. They will. 2056 01:19:23,175 --> 01:19:24,885 Hey, Rob? It's time. 2057 01:19:28,222 --> 01:19:29,848 ROB: I have to go. 2058 01:19:44,405 --> 01:19:45,781 (gavel bangs) 2059 01:19:46,490 --> 01:19:48,409 We are here 2060 01:19:46,490 --> 01:19:48,409 on defendant's motion 2061 01:19:48,451 --> 01:19:51,954 to dismiss the case 2062 01:19:48,451 --> 01:19:51,954 brought by Mr Kiger, et al. 2063 01:19:53,497 --> 01:19:55,958 (Rob speaks indistinctly) 2064 01:19:53,497 --> 01:19:55,958 JUDGE: Now, which one of you 2065 01:19:55,999 --> 01:19:57,460 is Mr Wallace? 2066 01:19:57,501 --> 01:19:59,253 WALLACE: Edward Wallace, 2067 01:19:57,501 --> 01:19:59,253 Your Honour, 2068 01:19:59,295 --> 01:20:01,964 on behalf of the E.I. 2069 01:19:59,295 --> 01:20:01,964 DuPont de Nemours and Company 2070 01:20:02,005 --> 01:20:03,507 better known as DuPont. 2071 01:20:03,549 --> 01:20:05,092 Yes, I've heard of it. 2072 01:20:05,134 --> 01:20:07,094 -Your motion. 2073 01:20:05,134 --> 01:20:07,094 WALLACE: Thank you. 2074 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,513 Your Honour, 2075 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,513 we're here today 2076 01:20:09,555 --> 01:20:11,807 because of a uniquely 2077 01:20:09,555 --> 01:20:11,807 American invention. 2078 01:20:12,475 --> 01:20:13,850 Teflon. 2079 01:20:13,892 --> 01:20:16,895 Since 1961, Teflon 2080 01:20:13,892 --> 01:20:16,895 has liberated housewives... 2081 01:20:16,937 --> 01:20:18,063 No, no, no. 2082 01:20:18,105 --> 01:20:19,774 WALLACE: Excuse me. 2083 01:20:18,105 --> 01:20:19,774 Homemakers... 2084 01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:24,194 This is a courtroom, Mr Wallace. 2085 01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:24,194 Not the Home Shopping Network. 2086 01:20:24,236 --> 01:20:26,071 (all laughing) 2087 01:20:26,113 --> 01:20:28,198 Plaintiffs have alleged 2088 01:20:26,113 --> 01:20:28,198 that DuPont 2089 01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,242 did not meet 2090 01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,242 its own standard of safety 2091 01:20:30,284 --> 01:20:34,163 with regard to the level of C8 2092 01:20:30,284 --> 01:20:34,163 in the local water supply. 2093 01:20:34,204 --> 01:20:36,915 HARRY: (softly) Okay. 2094 01:20:34,204 --> 01:20:36,915 -That's irrelevant, Your Honour. 2095 01:20:36,957 --> 01:20:40,544 We ask you to dismiss 2096 01:20:36,957 --> 01:20:40,544 on grounds that the only 2097 01:20:36,957 --> 01:20:40,544 standard that matters 2098 01:20:40,586 --> 01:20:43,422 is the one that elected 2099 01:20:40,586 --> 01:20:43,422 government deems safe. 2100 01:20:43,464 --> 01:20:45,549 ROB: Not if it's unregulated. 2101 01:20:43,464 --> 01:20:45,549 -It's government's job to 2102 01:20:45,591 --> 01:20:48,218 make these determinations. 2103 01:20:45,591 --> 01:20:48,218 Not any one company. 2104 01:20:48,260 --> 01:20:50,012 -It's a trap. 2105 01:20:48,260 --> 01:20:50,012 -They can't revert back to... 2106 01:20:50,053 --> 01:20:51,221 I got it. 2107 01:20:51,263 --> 01:20:53,056 Is there a problem, 2108 01:20:51,263 --> 01:20:53,056 Mr Deitzler? 2109 01:20:53,098 --> 01:20:54,684 Apologies, Your Honour. 2110 01:20:54,725 --> 01:20:58,354 But DuPont has been hiding 2111 01:20:54,725 --> 01:20:58,354 the dangers of this chemical 2112 01:20:58,395 --> 01:21:00,815 from the government 2113 01:20:58,395 --> 01:21:00,815 for a while now. 2114 01:21:00,856 --> 01:21:03,233 And they're asking you 2115 01:21:00,856 --> 01:21:03,233 to let them off the hook 2116 01:21:03,275 --> 01:21:05,736 because they've succeeded 2117 01:21:03,275 --> 01:21:05,736 in their strategy. 2118 01:21:05,778 --> 01:21:07,738 Government doesn't regulate C8. 2119 01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:09,198 WALLACE: Uh, actually, 2120 01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:09,198 that's not true. 2121 01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:10,407 -No, no. 2122 01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:10,407 (Harry scoffs) 2123 01:21:10,449 --> 01:21:12,702 The West Virginia's 2124 01:21:10,449 --> 01:21:12,702 C8 Working Group 2125 01:21:12,743 --> 01:21:14,119 has just issued a standard. 2126 01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:18,081 Here with us today 2127 01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:18,081 is the governmental official 2128 01:21:14,620 --> 01:21:18,081 who led that effort... 2129 01:21:18,123 --> 01:21:19,834 Dr Mary Sue Kimball. 2130 01:21:22,753 --> 01:21:25,047 And Dr Kimball, 2131 01:21:22,753 --> 01:21:25,047 as a senior member of 2132 01:21:25,088 --> 01:21:27,174 the State's Department 2133 01:21:25,088 --> 01:21:27,174 of Environmental Protection, 2134 01:21:27,216 --> 01:21:29,176 isn't it, in fact, your duty 2135 01:21:29,218 --> 01:21:30,511 to protect the citizens of... 2136 01:21:30,553 --> 01:21:33,514 JUDGE: Mr Wallace. 2137 01:21:30,553 --> 01:21:33,514 -I'll cut to the chase. 2138 01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,476 What is the level of C8 2139 01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,476 in drinking water 2140 01:21:37,518 --> 01:21:39,353 that the State 2141 01:21:37,518 --> 01:21:39,353 of West Virginia 2142 01:21:39,395 --> 01:21:41,063 has determined 2143 01:21:39,395 --> 01:21:41,063 to be completely safe? 2144 01:21:41,104 --> 01:21:42,523 Watch it go from 2145 01:21:41,104 --> 01:21:42,523 one part per billion to? 2146 01:21:42,565 --> 01:21:43,816 ROB: Five. 2147 01:21:42,565 --> 01:21:43,816 LARRY: Ten? 2148 01:21:43,858 --> 01:21:46,193 -150 parts per billion. 2149 01:21:43,858 --> 01:21:46,193 (gasps) 2150 01:21:46,861 --> 01:21:48,445 HARRY: Welcome to West Virginia. 2151 01:21:48,487 --> 01:21:50,239 WALLACE: The levels found 2152 01:21:48,487 --> 01:21:50,239 in the wells 2153 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,616 of all six water districts 2154 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,616 represented in this suit, 2155 01:21:53,116 --> 01:21:55,411 do they fall below 2156 01:21:53,116 --> 01:21:55,411 this maximum level? 2157 01:21:55,452 --> 01:21:56,537 Well below. 2158 01:21:57,329 --> 01:21:58,789 Nothing else, Your Honour. 2159 01:21:59,915 --> 01:22:01,834 Your witness, Mr Deitzler. 2160 01:22:01,876 --> 01:22:03,419 Wait. 2161 01:22:01,876 --> 01:22:03,419 Who's on the working group? 2162 01:22:03,460 --> 01:22:04,795 DuPont, of course, and who else? 2163 01:22:04,837 --> 01:22:06,088 -Who did the water testing? 2164 01:22:04,837 --> 01:22:06,088 JUDGE: Mr Deitzler? 2165 01:22:06,129 --> 01:22:07,882 -When was it done? 2166 01:22:06,129 --> 01:22:07,882 HARRY: One moment, Judge. 2167 01:22:07,923 --> 01:22:09,258 ROB: What was the sample size? 2168 01:22:09,299 --> 01:22:10,676 LARRY: We should 2169 01:22:09,299 --> 01:22:10,676 be able to see... 2170 01:22:10,718 --> 01:22:14,388 -Going once, going twice... 2171 01:22:10,718 --> 01:22:14,388 (indistinct chatter) 2172 01:22:14,430 --> 01:22:18,392 Dr Kimball, who were the members 2173 01:22:14,430 --> 01:22:18,392 of this cabal 2174 01:22:18,434 --> 01:22:21,103 -you call the C8 working group? 2175 01:22:18,434 --> 01:22:21,103 WALLACE: Objection. 2176 01:22:22,062 --> 01:22:23,522 Cool it, Mr Deitzler. 2177 01:22:25,023 --> 01:22:26,233 Go ahead, Dr Kimball. 2178 01:22:26,734 --> 01:22:28,360 Agency officials, 2179 01:22:28,402 --> 01:22:30,571 representatives of the 2180 01:22:28,402 --> 01:22:30,571 scientific community, 2181 01:22:30,613 --> 01:22:32,030 um, stakeholders. 2182 01:22:32,072 --> 01:22:33,657 HARRY: Stakeholders? 2183 01:22:32,072 --> 01:22:33,657 Which stakeholders? 2184 01:22:33,699 --> 01:22:37,369 Oh, wait, let me guess. 2185 01:22:33,699 --> 01:22:37,369 It rhymes with bouffant? 2186 01:22:37,411 --> 01:22:38,454 (audience chuckles) 2187 01:22:38,495 --> 01:22:40,289 DuPont is a stakeholder. Yes. 2188 01:22:40,330 --> 01:22:42,833 HARRY: So, I see. So, 2189 01:22:40,330 --> 01:22:42,833 don't you find it peculiar 2190 01:22:42,875 --> 01:22:45,920 that on the eve 2191 01:22:42,875 --> 01:22:45,920 of a class action lawsuit 2192 01:22:45,961 --> 01:22:49,465 where DuPont might 2193 01:22:45,961 --> 01:22:49,465 be considered liable 2194 01:22:49,506 --> 01:22:52,134 for poisoning this community, 2195 01:22:52,175 --> 01:22:54,929 they get you to 2196 01:22:52,175 --> 01:22:54,929 come in here suddenly 2197 01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:59,182 and reverse decades of their 2198 01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:59,182 so-called heralded science? 2199 01:22:59,809 --> 01:23:01,894 That's false. 2200 01:22:59,809 --> 01:23:01,894 I don't work for DuPont. 2201 01:23:01,936 --> 01:23:03,479 I didn't say you did. 2202 01:23:04,104 --> 01:23:06,523 But now you bring it up, 2203 01:23:04,104 --> 01:23:06,523 we'll check back in a month. 2204 01:23:06,565 --> 01:23:08,150 -Your Honour... 2205 01:23:06,565 --> 01:23:08,150 -You honestly, was gonna plan on 2206 01:23:08,191 --> 01:23:10,444 telling this community 2207 01:23:08,191 --> 01:23:10,444 that they can drink 2208 01:23:10,486 --> 01:23:13,071 150 times more C8? 2209 01:23:13,113 --> 01:23:14,615 I mean, come on, people, 2210 01:23:13,113 --> 01:23:14,615 bottoms up. 2211 01:23:14,657 --> 01:23:15,741 Honestly, Judge... 2212 01:23:15,783 --> 01:23:18,702 All right, Mr Deitzler, enough. 2213 01:23:19,202 --> 01:23:20,996 KIMBALL: We'll be unveiling 2214 01:23:19,202 --> 01:23:20,996 the new standard 2215 01:23:21,037 --> 01:23:22,998 at an upcoming public hearing. 2216 01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:26,543 Unveiling. Oh, 2217 01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:26,543 that sounds like a party. 2218 01:23:26,585 --> 01:23:28,086 We'll be there! 2219 01:23:28,128 --> 01:23:29,672 (all shouting indistinctly) 2220 01:23:32,633 --> 01:23:36,428 Their safety standards thing, 2221 01:23:32,633 --> 01:23:36,428 that's all a sham. 2222 01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:40,474 Thanks to the 2223 01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:40,474 Judge's decision, we 2224 01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:40,474 will have our day in court. 2225 01:23:40,516 --> 01:23:41,851 MAN: Yes, we will! 2226 01:23:41,892 --> 01:23:44,102 Because if the state 2227 01:23:41,892 --> 01:23:44,102 of West Virginia 2228 01:23:44,144 --> 01:23:46,188 won't stop the DuPont 2229 01:23:44,144 --> 01:23:46,188 Corporation 2230 01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:48,524 from literally poisoning 2231 01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:48,524 its citizens 2232 01:23:48,565 --> 01:23:51,861 then we the citizens will 2233 01:23:48,565 --> 01:23:51,861 stop them ourselves. 2234 01:23:51,902 --> 01:23:54,154 (crowd shouting in agreement) 2235 01:23:54,196 --> 01:23:56,365 BARBARA WALTERS: Good evening 2236 01:23:54,196 --> 01:23:56,365 and welcome to 20/20. 2237 01:23:56,406 --> 01:23:59,284 Well, it coats the pots 2238 01:23:56,406 --> 01:23:59,284 you cook with 2239 01:23:59,326 --> 01:24:00,786 so the food doesn't stick, 2240 01:24:00,828 --> 01:24:03,580 it protects the carpet 2241 01:24:00,828 --> 01:24:03,580 your baby crawls on... 2242 01:24:03,622 --> 01:24:05,248 I miss carpets. 2243 01:24:05,916 --> 01:24:07,417 WALTERS: ...your skin lotion, 2244 01:24:07,459 --> 01:24:10,295 even your makeup. 2245 01:24:07,459 --> 01:24:10,295 We're talking about Teflon. 2246 01:24:10,337 --> 01:24:13,089 And tonight, our 20/20 2247 01:24:10,337 --> 01:24:13,089 investigation uncovers 2248 01:24:13,131 --> 01:24:17,636 alarming information about 2249 01:24:13,131 --> 01:24:17,636 this much-used material. 2250 01:24:17,678 --> 01:24:20,055 It is very alarming, Barbara. 2251 01:24:17,678 --> 01:24:20,055 I cook with Teflon. 2252 01:24:20,096 --> 01:24:23,058 I didn't know 2253 01:24:20,096 --> 01:24:23,058 until I watched this report 2254 01:24:20,096 --> 01:24:23,058 that you're about to see 2255 01:24:23,099 --> 01:24:25,227 that if Teflon 2256 01:24:23,099 --> 01:24:25,227 gets hot enough... 2257 01:24:25,268 --> 01:24:26,729 Millions have in their homes. 2258 01:24:26,770 --> 01:24:28,522 Teflon has become 2259 01:24:26,770 --> 01:24:28,522 such a familiar... 2260 01:24:28,564 --> 01:24:31,775 ...is also used 2261 01:24:28,564 --> 01:24:31,775 in clothing and cars. 2262 01:24:28,564 --> 01:24:31,775 Even in contact lenses. 2263 01:24:31,817 --> 01:24:35,153 ...already found in the blood 2264 01:24:31,817 --> 01:24:35,153 of most Americans. Now... 2265 01:24:35,195 --> 01:24:37,031 (speaking Korean) 2266 01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:39,282 ...millions of homes 2267 01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:39,282 across Australia. 2268 01:24:39,324 --> 01:24:41,493 Teflon, a non-stick surface... 2269 01:24:41,535 --> 01:24:44,663 REPORTER: The Environmental 2270 01:24:41,535 --> 01:24:44,663 Protection Agency this morning 2271 01:24:41,535 --> 01:24:44,663 announced 2272 01:24:44,705 --> 01:24:48,208 it has opened 2273 01:24:44,705 --> 01:24:48,208 a priority review 2274 01:24:44,705 --> 01:24:48,208 of the chemical C8, 2275 01:24:48,250 --> 01:24:51,003 currently the subject of 2276 01:24:48,250 --> 01:24:51,003 a class action lawsuit 2277 01:24:51,045 --> 01:24:53,296 against the chemical 2278 01:24:51,045 --> 01:24:53,296 giant DuPont. 2279 01:24:53,338 --> 01:24:54,464 DARLENE: Joe! 2280 01:24:56,091 --> 01:24:59,219 Joe! Oh my lord! 2281 01:24:56,091 --> 01:24:59,219 Joe, just wait! 2282 01:24:59,261 --> 01:25:02,056 Wait for the fire department, 2283 01:24:59,261 --> 01:25:02,056 please, honey! 2284 01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:04,474 -Please don't go crazy! 2285 01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:04,474 (sirens blaring) 2286 01:25:04,516 --> 01:25:06,060 REPORTER 1: ...have triggered 2287 01:25:04,516 --> 01:25:06,060 a mass panic 2288 01:25:06,101 --> 01:25:07,519 amongst Chinese consumers. 2289 01:25:07,561 --> 01:25:09,730 REPORTER 2: ...throw away 2290 01:25:07,561 --> 01:25:09,730 your non-stick pans... 2291 01:25:09,772 --> 01:25:12,190 REPORTER 3: Are your pans 2292 01:25:09,772 --> 01:25:12,190 making you sick? 2293 01:25:12,232 --> 01:25:13,692 That's the question 2294 01:25:12,232 --> 01:25:13,692 being asked... 2295 01:25:13,734 --> 01:25:16,779 REPORTER 4: ...kitchen 2296 01:25:13,734 --> 01:25:16,779 implements coated in Teflon. 2297 01:25:17,654 --> 01:25:20,240 JOE: The house was empty. 2298 01:25:17,654 --> 01:25:20,240 It belongs to my father. 2299 01:25:20,699 --> 01:25:22,659 I don't know 2300 01:25:20,699 --> 01:25:22,659 how it could've started. 2301 01:25:22,701 --> 01:25:24,620 FIRE CAPTAIN: His name Kiger? 2302 01:25:25,996 --> 01:25:28,164 Think someone might have got 2303 01:25:25,996 --> 01:25:28,164 the wrong house? 2304 01:25:33,545 --> 01:25:35,047 (sighs) 2305 01:25:36,548 --> 01:25:39,718 WOMAN: (on TV) All of this 2306 01:25:36,548 --> 01:25:39,718 hullabaloo is just silly. 2307 01:25:40,552 --> 01:25:43,847 Teflon is completely safe 2308 01:25:40,552 --> 01:25:43,847 for cooking. 2309 01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:46,642 That is why we founded 2310 01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:46,642 the Cook Healthy campaign 2311 01:25:46,683 --> 01:25:48,727 to set the record straight. 2312 01:25:48,769 --> 01:25:53,690 And besides being completely 2313 01:25:48,769 --> 01:25:53,690 safe, it is also... 2314 01:25:53,732 --> 01:25:54,733 (clicks off) 2315 01:26:00,864 --> 01:26:01,949 Copy that. 2316 01:26:04,868 --> 01:26:06,244 All the way down. 2317 01:26:29,392 --> 01:26:31,394 (tires screeching) 2318 01:27:11,018 --> 01:27:12,602 MAN: We're now on the record. 2319 01:27:12,644 --> 01:27:14,104 This is the videotaped 2320 01:27:12,644 --> 01:27:14,104 deposition 2321 01:27:14,146 --> 01:27:16,439 of Charles O. Holliday, Jr. 2322 01:27:16,481 --> 01:27:18,108 taken by the plaintiffs 2323 01:27:16,481 --> 01:27:18,108 in the matter of 2324 01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:22,362 Kiger et al. vs. 2325 01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:22,362 the E.I. DuPont de Nemours 2326 01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:22,362 and Company. 2327 01:27:22,404 --> 01:27:23,780 WOMAN: Raise your right hand. 2328 01:27:24,740 --> 01:27:26,449 Do you swear to tell 2329 01:27:24,740 --> 01:27:26,449 the whole truth 2330 01:27:26,491 --> 01:27:27,576 and nothing but the truth? 2331 01:27:27,617 --> 01:27:28,785 I do. 2332 01:27:30,286 --> 01:27:32,039 ROB: Please state your name. 2333 01:27:32,998 --> 01:27:34,583 Charles O. Holliday, Jr. 2334 01:27:35,084 --> 01:27:38,336 ROB: And are you 2335 01:27:35,084 --> 01:27:38,336 presently employed? 2336 01:27:39,462 --> 01:27:40,463 Yes. 2337 01:27:41,173 --> 01:27:42,966 ROB: What is your position? 2338 01:27:44,134 --> 01:27:45,719 I'm the chairman 2339 01:27:44,134 --> 01:27:45,719 and chief executive officer 2340 01:27:45,761 --> 01:27:47,303 of the DuPont Company. 2341 01:27:48,638 --> 01:27:50,891 ROB: In DuPont's 2342 01:27:48,638 --> 01:27:50,891 most recent filing 2343 01:27:50,933 --> 01:27:53,185 with the Securities 2344 01:27:50,933 --> 01:27:53,185 and Exchange Commission, 2345 01:27:53,227 --> 01:27:55,104 you state, quote, 2346 01:27:55,145 --> 01:27:57,856 "Based on over 50 years 2347 01:27:55,145 --> 01:27:57,856 of industry experience 2348 01:27:57,898 --> 01:28:00,192 and extensive scientific study, 2349 01:28:00,234 --> 01:28:04,320 DuPont believes there is 2350 01:28:00,234 --> 01:28:04,320 no evidence that PFOA causes 2351 01:28:04,362 --> 01:28:08,784 any adverse human health effects 2352 01:28:04,362 --> 01:28:08,784 or harms the environment." 2353 01:28:08,825 --> 01:28:11,078 You signed that 2354 01:28:08,825 --> 01:28:11,078 legal filing, correct? 2355 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,788 I don't recall 2356 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,788 the exact statement, 2357 01:28:12,829 --> 01:28:14,123 but that sounds right to me. 2358 01:28:14,164 --> 01:28:17,793 Are you aware that 2359 01:28:14,164 --> 01:28:17,793 DuPont has in its own files, 2360 01:28:17,834 --> 01:28:22,547 studies dating back to the 1970s 2361 01:28:17,834 --> 01:28:22,547 that say just the opposite? 2362 01:28:23,381 --> 01:28:26,218 That PFOA, 2363 01:28:23,381 --> 01:28:26,218 or C8 as it's called... 2364 01:28:26,260 --> 01:28:29,512 has potentially life-threatening 2365 01:28:26,260 --> 01:28:29,512 effects on human health? 2366 01:28:29,554 --> 01:28:32,557 I'm not familiar 2367 01:28:29,554 --> 01:28:32,557 with the exact studies 2368 01:28:29,554 --> 01:28:32,557 we may have in our files. 2369 01:28:32,599 --> 01:28:35,685 Then I'll take you through them. 2370 01:28:32,599 --> 01:28:35,685 Exhibit nine. 2371 01:28:41,233 --> 01:28:44,360 You were just handed 2372 01:28:41,233 --> 01:28:44,360 exhibit nine. 2373 01:28:44,945 --> 01:28:48,323 Do you see the date 2374 01:28:44,945 --> 01:28:48,323 March 13th, 1979? 2375 01:28:48,364 --> 01:28:49,491 Yes. 2376 01:28:49,532 --> 01:28:51,118 Do you see the DuPont logo 2377 01:28:49,532 --> 01:28:51,118 at the top? 2378 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,119 Yes. 2379 01:28:52,161 --> 01:28:53,703 ROB: Do you see this word here, 2380 01:28:53,745 --> 01:28:54,788 highlighted? 2381 01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:55,956 CHARLES: Yes. 2382 01:28:55,998 --> 01:28:57,540 ROB: Would you read it 2383 01:28:55,998 --> 01:28:57,540 for me, please? 2384 01:28:57,582 --> 01:28:58,667 CHARLES: "Receptors." 2385 01:28:59,084 --> 01:29:02,629 Do you know what that word 2386 01:28:59,084 --> 01:29:02,629 refers to, receptors? 2387 01:29:03,463 --> 01:29:06,341 Um, in this context, I do not. 2388 01:29:06,382 --> 01:29:08,384 It means human beings. 2389 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,596 DuPont refers to the men 2390 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,596 and women that your company 2391 01:29:11,638 --> 01:29:14,516 exposed to C8 as receptors. 2392 01:29:14,557 --> 01:29:19,437 And in these receptors, 2393 01:29:14,557 --> 01:29:19,437 your scientists found, quote, 2394 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:23,566 "significantly higher incidents 2395 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:23,566 of allergic endocrine 2396 01:29:23,608 --> 01:29:25,568 and metabolic disorders." 2397 01:29:23,608 --> 01:29:25,568 End quote. 2398 01:29:25,610 --> 01:29:27,403 As well as, quote: 2399 01:29:27,445 --> 01:29:30,073 "excess risk of developing 2400 01:29:27,445 --> 01:29:30,073 liver disease." 2401 01:29:30,115 --> 01:29:32,159 -Do you see that? 2402 01:29:30,115 --> 01:29:32,159 CHARLES: Yes. 2403 01:29:33,952 --> 01:29:37,289 Moreover, you have 2404 01:29:33,952 --> 01:29:37,289 infertility at Teflon. 2405 01:29:37,331 --> 01:29:39,833 Occurrences of leukemia. 2406 01:29:39,875 --> 01:29:42,044 You have excess of cancers. 2407 01:29:42,085 --> 01:29:44,462 Bladder, kidney, oral, pharynx. 2408 01:29:44,504 --> 01:29:46,631 Next paragraph. 78. 2409 01:29:47,090 --> 01:29:49,718 Do you see that heading? 2410 01:29:47,090 --> 01:29:49,718 Do you see that date? 2411 01:29:47,090 --> 01:29:49,718 Do you see that? 2412 01:29:49,759 --> 01:29:50,969 Exhibit 96. 2413 01:29:51,011 --> 01:29:52,304 Exhibit 53. 2414 01:29:52,346 --> 01:29:54,514 I'd like to move on 2415 01:29:52,346 --> 01:29:54,514 to birth defects. 2416 01:29:54,556 --> 01:29:55,765 We've gone almost seven hours. 2417 01:29:55,807 --> 01:29:58,434 Mr Holliday, you're aware 2418 01:29:55,807 --> 01:29:58,434 that in 1981, 2419 01:29:58,476 --> 01:30:02,314 3M notified DuPont that it had 2420 01:29:58,476 --> 01:30:02,314 conducted studies on rats. 2421 01:30:02,356 --> 01:30:03,940 And these studies showed 2422 01:30:03,982 --> 01:30:07,652 that sustained C8 exposure 2423 01:30:03,982 --> 01:30:07,652 can cause facial deformities? 2424 01:30:07,694 --> 01:30:09,821 I'm not aware of a study by 3M. 2425 01:30:09,863 --> 01:30:11,405 How about DuPont's own studies 2426 01:30:11,447 --> 01:30:13,909 that showed the same thing 2427 01:30:11,447 --> 01:30:13,909 in humans? 2428 01:30:17,246 --> 01:30:21,250 That's DuPont's pregnancy study 2429 01:30:17,246 --> 01:30:21,250 from 1981. 2430 01:30:21,291 --> 01:30:22,751 Does that look like 2431 01:30:21,291 --> 01:30:22,751 a DuPont document? 2432 01:30:22,792 --> 01:30:24,336 It looks to be. 2433 01:30:26,046 --> 01:30:29,841 ROB: Are you aware that DuPont 2434 01:30:26,046 --> 01:30:29,841 has denied that any such study 2435 01:30:29,883 --> 01:30:32,052 ever even took place? 2436 01:30:33,636 --> 01:30:36,598 I'm not familiar 2437 01:30:33,636 --> 01:30:36,598 with specific statements 2438 01:30:33,636 --> 01:30:36,598 we've made about that. 2439 01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:40,102 Seven pregnant women, 2440 01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:40,102 all DuPont employees, 2441 01:30:40,143 --> 01:30:41,978 all from the Teflon line. 2442 01:30:42,854 --> 01:30:44,606 Do you see this here? 2443 01:30:45,315 --> 01:30:49,485 Quote: "Child, four months, 2444 01:30:45,315 --> 01:30:49,485 one nostril, 2445 01:30:49,527 --> 01:30:51,113 eye defect." End quote. 2446 01:30:51,154 --> 01:30:52,030 Yes. 2447 01:30:52,072 --> 01:30:53,782 Two of the seven women, 2448 01:30:53,823 --> 01:30:55,367 nearly 30 percent, gave birth 2449 01:30:55,409 --> 01:30:57,286 to babies that had the exact 2450 01:30:57,327 --> 01:30:59,162 facial deformities 2451 01:30:57,327 --> 01:30:59,162 that your company 2452 01:30:59,204 --> 01:31:01,248 -already knew about. 2453 01:30:59,204 --> 01:31:01,248 -We're done here. 2454 01:31:03,417 --> 01:31:04,709 Sir. 2455 01:31:06,211 --> 01:31:08,297 His parents named him Bucky. 2456 01:31:11,591 --> 01:31:12,968 Bucky Bailey. 2457 01:31:15,220 --> 01:31:17,097 This is your receptor. 2458 01:31:25,605 --> 01:31:26,856 Now we're done. 2459 01:31:44,833 --> 01:31:47,210 (breathing heavily) 2460 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:07,856 (lock clicks) 2461 01:32:16,948 --> 01:32:19,326 (breathing heavily) 2462 01:32:37,010 --> 01:32:38,512 (car beeping) 2463 01:32:39,179 --> 01:32:41,390 (tense music) 2464 01:32:42,974 --> 01:32:44,558 (engine starts) 2465 01:33:04,204 --> 01:33:06,206 REPORTER: The Environmental 2466 01:33:04,204 --> 01:33:06,206 Protection Agency 2467 01:33:06,248 --> 01:33:09,334 has levied the largest fine 2468 01:33:06,248 --> 01:33:09,334 in agency history 2469 01:33:09,376 --> 01:33:11,503 against the chemical giant 2470 01:33:09,376 --> 01:33:11,503 DuPont. 2471 01:33:12,170 --> 01:33:15,173 The EPA concluded 2472 01:33:12,170 --> 01:33:15,173 the company failed to report 2473 01:33:15,215 --> 01:33:16,925 the health dangers of C8 2474 01:33:16,966 --> 01:33:19,844 used in the manufacture 2475 01:33:16,966 --> 01:33:19,844 of Teflon. 2476 01:33:19,886 --> 01:33:23,848 Dupont will pay the EPA 2477 01:33:19,886 --> 01:33:23,848 16.5 million. 2478 01:33:25,016 --> 01:33:29,104 It earns a billion dollars in 2479 01:33:25,016 --> 01:33:29,104 profits from Teflon each year. 2480 01:33:36,236 --> 01:33:40,574 To recap, we've agreed 2481 01:33:36,236 --> 01:33:40,574 that DuPont will clean 2482 01:33:36,236 --> 01:33:40,574 local water supplies. 2483 01:33:41,116 --> 01:33:44,411 Install infiltration systems 2484 01:33:41,116 --> 01:33:44,411 in all six water districts. 2485 01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:49,458 Additionally, 2486 01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:49,458 DuPont will pay 70 million 2487 01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:49,458 in cash to the Class. 2488 01:33:49,499 --> 01:33:51,751 Three days revenue 2489 01:33:49,499 --> 01:33:51,751 on the Teflon line. 2490 01:33:52,377 --> 01:33:54,837 MEDIATOR: Which leaves 2491 01:33:52,377 --> 01:33:54,837 our most challenging issue. 2492 01:33:54,879 --> 01:33:56,256 Medical monitoring. 2493 01:33:56,798 --> 01:33:59,926 We've agreed to establish 2494 01:33:56,798 --> 01:33:59,926 an independent science panel 2495 01:33:59,968 --> 01:34:02,053 comprised of three scientists 2496 01:34:02,095 --> 01:34:04,264 who have no relationship 2497 01:34:02,095 --> 01:34:04,264 to either side. 2498 01:34:05,056 --> 01:34:08,518 This independent panel will 2499 01:34:05,056 --> 01:34:08,518 study the members of this Class 2500 01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,187 to determine whether C8 exposure 2501 01:34:11,229 --> 01:34:14,357 has led to increased incidents 2502 01:34:11,229 --> 01:34:14,357 of disease in this region. 2503 01:34:15,442 --> 01:34:18,361 If the panel finds that there 2504 01:34:15,442 --> 01:34:18,361 are probable scientific links 2505 01:34:18,403 --> 01:34:20,489 to a particular disease, 2506 01:34:20,530 --> 01:34:22,324 the health of everyone 2507 01:34:20,530 --> 01:34:22,324 in the Class 2508 01:34:22,365 --> 01:34:25,701 will be monitored 2509 01:34:22,365 --> 01:34:25,701 for that disease in perpetuity 2510 01:34:25,743 --> 01:34:29,289 at DuPont's cost 2511 01:34:25,743 --> 01:34:29,289 up to 235 million. 2512 01:34:29,331 --> 01:34:32,083 And any Class member 2513 01:34:29,331 --> 01:34:32,083 who develops that disease 2514 01:34:32,125 --> 01:34:34,377 can sue DuPont for damages. 2515 01:34:35,795 --> 01:34:37,339 However, 2516 01:34:37,380 --> 01:34:39,841 if the science panel 2517 01:34:37,380 --> 01:34:39,841 fails to establish 2518 01:34:39,882 --> 01:34:41,510 probable scientific links... 2519 01:34:42,344 --> 01:34:44,513 then this case is over. 2520 01:34:42,344 --> 01:34:44,513 No monitoring. 2521 01:34:44,554 --> 01:34:46,556 No lawsuits. No exceptions. 2522 01:34:47,723 --> 01:34:51,227 Good. Well, gentlemen, 2523 01:34:47,723 --> 01:34:51,227 you are now officially 2524 01:34:47,723 --> 01:34:51,227 in the hands of science. 2525 01:34:52,854 --> 01:34:57,025 HARRY: Well, wouldn't have 2526 01:34:52,854 --> 01:34:57,025 pegged you as a Mai Tai guy. 2527 01:34:57,942 --> 01:34:59,235 ROB: It's festive. 2528 01:34:59,277 --> 01:35:00,778 HARRY: Wouldn't have pegged you 2529 01:34:59,277 --> 01:35:00,778 for that either. 2530 01:35:00,820 --> 01:35:02,656 ROB: We have something 2531 01:35:00,820 --> 01:35:02,656 to celebrate. 2532 01:35:02,696 --> 01:35:04,491 HARRY: Yeah? 2533 01:35:02,696 --> 01:35:04,491 LARRY: Do we? 2534 01:35:05,741 --> 01:35:09,454 Look, how do we know that 2535 01:35:05,741 --> 01:35:09,454 the panel's gonna prove 2536 01:35:09,496 --> 01:35:11,914 that DuPont made 2537 01:35:09,496 --> 01:35:11,914 all these people sick? 2538 01:35:12,999 --> 01:35:15,627 I'm no scientist, 2539 01:35:12,999 --> 01:35:15,627 but even I know you'd need 2540 01:35:15,669 --> 01:35:17,420 huge amounts of medical data, 2541 01:35:17,462 --> 01:35:20,340 not to mention thousands 2542 01:35:17,462 --> 01:35:20,340 of blood samples and... 2543 01:35:20,382 --> 01:35:22,592 HARRY: From people 2544 01:35:20,382 --> 01:35:22,592 who don't trust us. 2545 01:35:22,634 --> 01:35:24,802 "Hey, folks, we wanna stick you 2546 01:35:22,634 --> 01:35:24,802 with some needles. 2547 01:35:24,844 --> 01:35:27,263 -You won't mind, will ya?" 2548 01:35:24,844 --> 01:35:27,263 (laughing) 2549 01:35:27,305 --> 01:35:28,848 I know these people. 2550 01:35:30,183 --> 01:35:32,519 They're gonna 2551 01:35:30,183 --> 01:35:32,519 take the money and run. 2552 01:35:32,561 --> 01:35:34,187 Wouldn't you? 2553 01:35:34,229 --> 01:35:38,858 I think they want more than 2554 01:35:34,229 --> 01:35:38,858 just the money. I think they... 2555 01:35:39,651 --> 01:35:42,320 They wanna know if they're 2556 01:35:39,651 --> 01:35:42,320 gonna get sick or not. 2557 01:35:42,362 --> 01:35:44,239 Or if they have C8 2558 01:35:42,362 --> 01:35:44,239 in their blood 2559 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:45,615 and what that's gonna do 2560 01:35:45,657 --> 01:35:47,325 to them and their families. 2561 01:35:47,367 --> 01:35:51,580 So, we're just gonna trust 2562 01:35:47,367 --> 01:35:51,580 that they show up? 2563 01:35:51,621 --> 01:35:55,500 ROB: Trust, but verify. 2564 01:35:51,621 --> 01:35:55,500 -What does that mean, Rob? 2565 01:35:56,376 --> 01:35:59,588 Well, come in for an exam. 2566 01:35:59,629 --> 01:36:02,840 Um... Give us a blood sample. 2567 01:36:03,757 --> 01:36:05,427 Then, we'll give you 2568 01:36:03,757 --> 01:36:05,427 your cheque. 2569 01:36:08,513 --> 01:36:10,640 On second thought, 2570 01:36:08,513 --> 01:36:10,640 make mine a Mai Tai. 2571 01:36:10,682 --> 01:36:12,141 All around, please. 2572 01:36:13,268 --> 01:36:15,311 -Rob Bilott. 2573 01:36:13,268 --> 01:36:15,311 LARRY: Yeah. 2574 01:36:15,353 --> 01:36:17,939 -Where'd you pull that out of? 2575 01:36:15,353 --> 01:36:17,939 (chuckles) 2576 01:36:17,980 --> 01:36:19,190 ANNOUNCER: (on radio) 2577 01:36:17,980 --> 01:36:19,190 Healthy drinking water 2578 01:36:19,232 --> 01:36:20,483 is vital to all of us. 2579 01:36:20,525 --> 01:36:21,943 That's why scientists 2580 01:36:20,525 --> 01:36:21,943 need to know 2581 01:36:21,984 --> 01:36:25,196 if the chemical C8 2582 01:36:21,984 --> 01:36:25,196 causes any health problems. 2583 01:36:25,238 --> 01:36:26,948 Starting today, 2584 01:36:25,238 --> 01:36:26,948 you can help 2585 01:36:26,989 --> 01:36:29,576 by completing a health 2586 01:36:26,989 --> 01:36:29,576 questionnaire and having... 2587 01:36:29,618 --> 01:36:30,868 (changing radio channels) 2588 01:36:31,994 --> 01:36:34,122 ROB: Aw, come on! 2589 01:36:34,163 --> 01:36:35,915 RADIO DJ: ...medical van's 2590 01:36:34,163 --> 01:36:35,915 downtown. Well, how about you? 2591 01:36:35,957 --> 01:36:37,500 You gonna get 2592 01:36:35,957 --> 01:36:37,500 your blood tested? 2593 01:36:37,542 --> 01:36:39,961 GUEST: Nah. I hate needles. 2594 01:36:40,002 --> 01:36:42,255 RADIO DJ: It's $400, buddy. 2595 01:36:42,297 --> 01:36:43,839 GUEST: Really? 2596 01:36:43,881 --> 01:36:46,217 RADIO DJ: (chuckles) 2597 01:36:43,881 --> 01:36:46,217 Got your attention, didn't I? 2598 01:36:59,897 --> 01:37:02,108 (indistinct chattering) 2599 01:37:14,579 --> 01:37:18,249 WOMAN: Okay. Okay. 2600 01:37:14,579 --> 01:37:18,249 All right. All right. 2601 01:37:18,291 --> 01:37:20,585 Yeah. That'll work. 2602 01:37:20,627 --> 01:37:22,128 We bring them back here... 2603 01:37:23,212 --> 01:37:25,839 draw the blood, 2604 01:37:23,212 --> 01:37:25,839 hand them a cheque. 2605 01:37:25,881 --> 01:37:28,092 ROB: $400. 2606 01:37:25,881 --> 01:37:28,092 -Each. 2607 01:37:28,134 --> 01:37:30,178 Lots of money around here. 2608 01:37:30,219 --> 01:37:32,054 How many you brought 2609 01:37:30,219 --> 01:37:32,054 with you today, Miss LuAnn? 2610 01:37:32,096 --> 01:37:34,432 My husband and 2611 01:37:32,096 --> 01:37:34,432 my three kids and me. 2612 01:37:34,474 --> 01:37:36,017 DR BROOKS: $2,000. 2613 01:37:36,058 --> 01:37:37,977 Not too shabby 2614 01:37:36,058 --> 01:37:37,977 right before Christmas. 2615 01:37:38,019 --> 01:37:39,061 LUANN: (chuckles) Yup. 2616 01:37:39,979 --> 01:37:41,939 But you ain't gonna 2617 01:37:39,979 --> 01:37:41,939 find nothing. 2618 01:37:41,981 --> 01:37:45,318 DuPont's good people. 2619 01:37:41,981 --> 01:37:45,318 You'll see. 2620 01:37:46,277 --> 01:37:48,571 (Christmas music playing) 2621 01:37:48,613 --> 01:37:50,323 TONY: Gigi, Gigi, Gigi! 2622 01:37:50,365 --> 01:37:52,492 It's your turn to put 2623 01:37:50,365 --> 01:37:52,492 the angel on the top. 2624 01:37:52,534 --> 01:37:53,827 (children laughing) 2625 01:37:53,867 --> 01:37:56,454 You do it, sweetie. 2626 01:37:53,867 --> 01:37:56,454 Gigi's too pooped. 2627 01:37:56,496 --> 01:37:59,374 Why don't you get your Uncle Ben 2628 01:37:56,496 --> 01:37:59,374 to give you a boost? 2629 01:37:59,415 --> 01:38:02,043 SARAH: Mom, you okay? 2630 01:38:02,084 --> 01:38:03,670 Yeah. 2631 01:38:03,712 --> 01:38:05,296 ROB: Seriously, it's huge. 2632 01:38:05,338 --> 01:38:07,131 They're gonna be making you 2633 01:38:05,338 --> 01:38:07,131 partner this year. I know it. 2634 01:38:07,173 --> 01:38:09,175 Well, they'd better. I mean... 2635 01:38:09,217 --> 01:38:10,468 KARLA'S SON: Mommy, come see! 2636 01:38:09,217 --> 01:38:10,468 (phone ringing) 2637 01:38:10,510 --> 01:38:11,969 KARLA: Hey, baby, 2638 01:38:10,510 --> 01:38:11,969 did you hang that ornament? 2639 01:38:12,011 --> 01:38:13,513 (phone continues ringing) 2640 01:38:12,011 --> 01:38:13,513 SARAH: Rob, can you get that? 2641 01:38:13,555 --> 01:38:15,640 KARLA: Let me see. 2642 01:38:13,555 --> 01:38:15,640 ROB: Okay, I'm coming. 2643 01:38:19,060 --> 01:38:20,562 Hello? 2644 01:38:20,603 --> 01:38:22,188 LARRY: (on phone) 2645 01:38:20,603 --> 01:38:22,188 Rob, you sitting 2646 01:38:20,603 --> 01:38:22,188 down for this? 2647 01:38:22,230 --> 01:38:24,858 -Larry, what's wrong? 2648 01:38:22,230 --> 01:38:24,858 LARRY: 69,000. 2649 01:38:24,898 --> 01:38:26,401 69,000 what? 2650 01:38:26,442 --> 01:38:28,528 LARRY: 69,000 people 2651 01:38:26,442 --> 01:38:28,528 got tested. 2652 01:38:28,570 --> 01:38:31,740 69,000! Do you realise 2653 01:38:28,570 --> 01:38:31,740 how much data this is? 2654 01:38:31,781 --> 01:38:33,408 It's what we needed, Rob! 2655 01:38:31,781 --> 01:38:33,408 This is it! 2656 01:38:33,449 --> 01:38:35,034 Oh, my God. 2657 01:38:35,076 --> 01:38:36,828 You were right all along, 2658 01:38:35,076 --> 01:38:36,828 my friend. Merry Christmas! 2659 01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:40,248 -Thank you! Thank you! 2660 01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:40,248 LARRY: You bet. 2661 01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:40,248 Talk real soon. 2662 01:38:41,957 --> 01:38:43,917 SARAH: Hey, who was that? 2663 01:38:41,957 --> 01:38:43,917 ROB: You won't believe it. 2664 01:38:43,959 --> 01:38:45,461 TEDDY: Daddy, 2665 01:38:43,959 --> 01:38:45,461 guess what I just did? 2666 01:38:45,503 --> 01:38:46,755 ROB: What? What'd you just do? 2667 01:38:46,796 --> 01:38:48,757 -I put the angel on the top. 2668 01:38:46,796 --> 01:38:48,757 -Yeah? 2669 01:38:48,798 --> 01:38:50,383 Uncle Ben lifted me. 2670 01:38:50,425 --> 01:38:52,802 -He did? Like this? 2671 01:38:50,425 --> 01:38:52,802 (grunts) 2672 01:38:52,844 --> 01:38:54,928 ROB: Merry Christmas, everyone! 2673 01:38:54,970 --> 01:38:56,472 ALL: Merry Christmas! 2674 01:39:11,571 --> 01:39:12,988 MINISTER: We are gathered 2675 01:39:11,571 --> 01:39:12,988 here today 2676 01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:15,408 in memory of 2677 01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:15,408 Wilbur Earl Tennant. 2678 01:39:16,618 --> 01:39:18,952 The Lord is my shepherd, 2679 01:39:16,618 --> 01:39:18,952 I shall not want. 2680 01:39:19,913 --> 01:39:22,415 He makes me lie down 2681 01:39:19,913 --> 01:39:22,415 in green pastures. 2682 01:39:23,082 --> 01:39:25,627 He leads me besides 2683 01:39:23,082 --> 01:39:25,627 still waters. 2684 01:39:25,668 --> 01:39:27,879 He restoreth my soul. 2685 01:39:27,921 --> 01:39:31,340 Even though I walk 2686 01:39:27,921 --> 01:39:31,340 through the valley 2687 01:39:27,921 --> 01:39:31,340 of the shadow of death, 2688 01:39:31,382 --> 01:39:34,176 I will fear no evil... 2689 01:39:34,218 --> 01:39:36,262 (inaudible) 2690 01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,908 (soft music) 2691 01:40:06,417 --> 01:40:07,919 TEDDY: Quick, everybody. 2692 01:40:06,417 --> 01:40:07,919 Mustard or ketchup? 2693 01:40:07,961 --> 01:40:09,462 CHARLIE: Teddy, 2694 01:40:07,961 --> 01:40:09,462 for the tenth time, 2695 01:40:09,504 --> 01:40:10,630 that's my ketchup. 2696 01:40:10,672 --> 01:40:12,047 SARAH: Charlie, don't start. 2697 01:40:12,089 --> 01:40:13,549 CHARLIE: What? It's mine. 2698 01:40:12,089 --> 01:40:13,549 I got it. 2699 01:40:13,591 --> 01:40:15,426 -He's got his own, okay? 2700 01:40:13,591 --> 01:40:15,426 MAN: You're that lawyer. 2701 01:40:16,302 --> 01:40:17,512 Finish up. 2702 01:40:19,138 --> 01:40:20,723 My brother's Dale Lamb. 2703 01:40:21,307 --> 01:40:23,225 You took his blood. 2704 01:40:21,307 --> 01:40:23,225 Said you'd help him. 2705 01:40:23,726 --> 01:40:26,479 Yeah, I did. We're... 2706 01:40:23,726 --> 01:40:26,479 We're working on it. I promise. 2707 01:40:26,521 --> 01:40:28,230 -He's dead. 2708 01:40:26,521 --> 01:40:28,230 (sniffles) 2709 01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:31,192 Testicular cancer. 2710 01:40:33,277 --> 01:40:35,571 Left three little boys 2711 01:40:33,277 --> 01:40:35,571 younger than yours. 2712 01:40:41,243 --> 01:40:42,996 But you enjoy your family. 2713 01:40:45,498 --> 01:40:46,916 Okay. Everybody up. 2714 01:40:46,958 --> 01:40:48,835 -I'm not finished. 2715 01:40:46,958 --> 01:40:48,835 -I said up. 2716 01:40:59,762 --> 01:41:02,015 (inaudible) 2717 01:41:15,570 --> 01:41:16,863 (door opens) 2718 01:41:18,031 --> 01:41:19,156 (door closes) 2719 01:41:24,412 --> 01:41:25,788 (cries softly) 2720 01:41:27,707 --> 01:41:31,335 Well, Darlene 2721 01:41:27,707 --> 01:41:31,335 can't even leave the house 2722 01:41:27,707 --> 01:41:31,335 without being harassed! 2723 01:41:32,336 --> 01:41:35,965 First, they blame us 2724 01:41:32,336 --> 01:41:35,965 for suing DuPont 2725 01:41:36,007 --> 01:41:39,385 and now, they hate on us 2726 01:41:36,007 --> 01:41:39,385 'cause they ain't seen 2727 01:41:36,007 --> 01:41:39,385 nothing from it! 2728 01:41:39,427 --> 01:41:42,221 ROB: I'm sorry, Joe... 2729 01:41:39,427 --> 01:41:42,221 -Well, that ain't good enough! 2730 01:41:42,889 --> 01:41:46,559 And they wonder why in the hell 2731 01:41:42,889 --> 01:41:46,559 it takes four damn years 2732 01:41:46,601 --> 01:41:50,187 to read a lousy blood sample, 2733 01:41:46,601 --> 01:41:50,187 and I don't blame 'em! 2734 01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:54,609 JOE: We trusted you, Rob. 2735 01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:54,609 We put our faith in you. 2736 01:41:54,650 --> 01:41:56,485 -I know, Joe. I'm so... 2737 01:41:54,650 --> 01:41:56,485 JOE: All right? 2738 01:41:56,527 --> 01:41:58,237 (line disconnects) 2739 01:42:01,323 --> 01:42:05,453 ROB: Isn't there just some 2740 01:42:01,323 --> 01:42:05,453 kind of a progress report? 2741 01:42:05,494 --> 01:42:08,873 Anything that I can share 2742 01:42:05,494 --> 01:42:08,873 with these folks? 2743 01:42:08,915 --> 01:42:11,542 I mean, they... 2744 01:42:08,915 --> 01:42:11,542 they have been waiting. 2745 01:42:11,584 --> 01:42:13,126 PANEL ASSISTANT: (on phone) 2746 01:42:11,584 --> 01:42:13,126 I'm sorry, Mr Bilott. 2747 01:42:13,168 --> 01:42:14,796 The Panel is still 2748 01:42:13,168 --> 01:42:14,796 in the process of 2749 01:42:14,837 --> 01:42:16,756 analysing complex data 2750 01:42:14,837 --> 01:42:16,756 and modelling 2751 01:42:16,798 --> 01:42:19,467 from thousands of samples 2752 01:42:16,798 --> 01:42:19,467 and medical histories. 2753 01:42:20,175 --> 01:42:21,552 I'm so sorry. 2754 01:42:21,594 --> 01:42:23,136 -Could you hold a moment? 2755 01:42:21,594 --> 01:42:23,136 (receiver clicks) 2756 01:42:23,178 --> 01:42:24,555 (Rob sighs deeply) 2757 01:42:32,814 --> 01:42:35,066 SARAH: Charlie, don't pick 2758 01:42:32,814 --> 01:42:35,066 at your food. 2759 01:42:36,901 --> 01:42:38,486 TONY: What's a hooker? 2760 01:42:40,237 --> 01:42:41,990 Where did you learn that? 2761 01:42:42,031 --> 01:42:44,659 TONY: He told me that 2762 01:42:42,031 --> 01:42:44,659 Mary Magdalene was a hooker. 2763 01:42:46,619 --> 01:42:47,912 What? She was. 2764 01:42:47,954 --> 01:42:49,747 CHARLIE: You're supposed 2765 01:42:47,954 --> 01:42:49,747 to say prostitute. 2766 01:42:49,789 --> 01:42:52,165 SARAH: And then she found God 2767 01:42:52,207 --> 01:42:55,086 and became one of Jesus's 2768 01:42:52,207 --> 01:42:55,086 most fervent disciples. 2769 01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:58,840 See? I was just 2770 01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:58,840 teaching him the Bible. 2771 01:42:58,881 --> 01:43:01,467 I can't today. So everybody up. 2772 01:43:01,509 --> 01:43:03,552 (whispers indistinctly) 2773 01:43:01,509 --> 01:43:03,552 SARAH: Everybody up! 2774 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,100 (Tony groans) 2775 01:43:11,144 --> 01:43:14,147 -Can we still afford it? 2776 01:43:11,144 --> 01:43:14,147 SARAH: What? 2777 01:43:15,230 --> 01:43:16,691 Catholic school. 2778 01:43:32,373 --> 01:43:34,834 My brother's back in rehab. 2779 01:43:32,373 --> 01:43:34,834 Did you know that? 2780 01:43:37,503 --> 01:43:40,464 -No, I'm sorry. 2781 01:43:37,503 --> 01:43:40,464 SARAH: Today's... 2782 01:43:42,175 --> 01:43:44,135 Today's Mom's 2783 01:43:42,175 --> 01:43:44,135 first day at chemo. 2784 01:43:45,511 --> 01:43:47,055 I forgot. 2785 01:43:47,096 --> 01:43:48,764 'Cause it's not 2786 01:43:47,096 --> 01:43:48,764 about your case, Rob. 2787 01:43:49,306 --> 01:43:52,185 -Car! 2788 01:43:49,306 --> 01:43:52,185 TEDDY: Okay. Jimmies. 2789 01:43:53,186 --> 01:43:54,603 (sighs) 2790 01:43:57,857 --> 01:43:59,650 Teddy forged my signature 2791 01:43:59,692 --> 01:44:02,319 and Tony's quitting 2792 01:43:59,692 --> 01:44:02,319 football. Tony. 2793 01:44:02,361 --> 01:44:04,072 But how would you 2794 01:44:02,361 --> 01:44:04,072 know about that, right? 2795 01:44:04,113 --> 01:44:05,990 Because all you see, 2796 01:44:04,113 --> 01:44:05,990 all that you... 2797 01:44:06,032 --> 01:44:09,702 The boys have ever seen is you, 2798 01:44:06,032 --> 01:44:09,702 obsessing about this... 2799 01:44:13,831 --> 01:44:15,499 Have I ever complained? 2800 01:44:19,503 --> 01:44:22,506 Say something 2801 01:44:19,503 --> 01:44:22,506 for God's sakes, Rob! 2802 01:44:22,548 --> 01:44:24,466 -No. 2803 01:44:22,548 --> 01:44:24,466 SARAH: No? 2804 01:44:24,508 --> 01:44:25,676 -No. 2805 01:44:24,508 --> 01:44:25,676 SARAH: No. 2806 01:44:27,178 --> 01:44:29,346 Because I knew 2807 01:44:27,178 --> 01:44:29,346 that you needed something. 2808 01:44:29,388 --> 01:44:32,349 Some connection... Something. 2809 01:44:32,391 --> 01:44:35,019 And... so I took it on. 2810 01:44:35,770 --> 01:44:38,313 But if you want 2811 01:44:35,770 --> 01:44:38,313 to start accounting, 2812 01:44:38,355 --> 01:44:40,108 if you want to start with... 2813 01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:41,817 "Oh, can we afford," then... 2814 01:44:45,278 --> 01:44:46,822 I don't know, Rob. 2815 01:44:47,698 --> 01:44:49,408 Can the boys afford a father 2816 01:44:49,450 --> 01:44:50,868 who can't string 2817 01:44:49,450 --> 01:44:50,868 two words together? 2818 01:44:50,910 --> 01:44:53,454 Can our marriage 2819 01:44:50,910 --> 01:44:53,454 afford 13 years of... 2820 01:44:53,495 --> 01:44:55,623 13 years of this? 2821 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,086 How about it, Rob? 2822 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,086 You wanna talk about it? 2823 01:45:00,128 --> 01:45:01,587 About our lives? 2824 01:45:05,758 --> 01:45:07,135 Of course not. 2825 01:45:08,844 --> 01:45:10,512 I'll tell Mom 2826 01:45:08,844 --> 01:45:10,512 you asked about her. 2827 01:45:10,554 --> 01:45:11,639 (keys jingle) 2828 01:45:14,183 --> 01:45:15,726 TOM: What in God's name 2829 01:45:14,183 --> 01:45:15,726 is that Panel doing? 2830 01:45:15,768 --> 01:45:17,603 Why are we still 2831 01:45:15,768 --> 01:45:17,603 getting bills? 2832 01:45:17,645 --> 01:45:21,274 Overhead. Uh... local counsel. 2833 01:45:21,314 --> 01:45:23,609 -Harry's call centre. 2834 01:45:21,314 --> 01:45:23,609 -$1,000 an hour. 2835 01:45:23,651 --> 01:45:26,487 ROB: That was 2836 01:45:23,651 --> 01:45:26,487 a technical expert. 2837 01:45:26,528 --> 01:45:28,614 We needed to do filings 2838 01:45:28,656 --> 01:45:30,825 when DuPont started 2839 01:45:28,656 --> 01:45:30,825 lobbying Washington... 2840 01:45:30,866 --> 01:45:32,243 That's Washington's 2841 01:45:30,866 --> 01:45:32,243 problem, not ours. 2842 01:45:32,285 --> 01:45:34,120 That's why you got them 2843 01:45:32,285 --> 01:45:34,120 involved. Your memo. 2844 01:45:34,162 --> 01:45:37,165 It was just a fine, Tom. 2845 01:45:34,162 --> 01:45:37,165 It's a fine. 16 million. 2846 01:45:37,206 --> 01:45:39,917 It's nothing for these people. 2847 01:45:37,206 --> 01:45:39,917 It's pocket change. 2848 01:45:39,959 --> 01:45:41,585 Yes, but if they get charged 2849 01:45:41,627 --> 01:45:42,878 with criminal concealment, 2850 01:45:41,627 --> 01:45:42,878 game over. 2851 01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:43,921 You said DOJ was investigating. 2852 01:45:43,963 --> 01:45:45,714 ROB: Not any more. 2853 01:45:43,963 --> 01:45:45,714 -What? 2854 01:45:45,756 --> 01:45:47,216 ROB: They dropped 2855 01:45:45,756 --> 01:45:47,216 the investigation. 2856 01:45:47,258 --> 01:45:48,843 -They dropped... What? 2857 01:45:47,258 --> 01:45:48,843 ROB: Dropped it. 2858 01:45:48,884 --> 01:45:49,969 No reason given. 2859 01:45:52,387 --> 01:45:55,850 Tom, our government 2860 01:45:52,387 --> 01:45:55,850 is captive to DuPont. 2861 01:45:56,725 --> 01:45:59,728 This case, 2862 01:45:56,725 --> 01:45:59,728 it's the only hope we have. 2863 01:45:59,770 --> 01:46:01,689 They know that 2864 01:45:59,770 --> 01:46:01,689 and they're trying to make it 2865 01:46:01,730 --> 01:46:05,276 as expensive as they can 2866 01:46:01,730 --> 01:46:05,276 to force you to make me stop. 2867 01:46:07,111 --> 01:46:08,904 TOM: Just tell me 2868 01:46:07,111 --> 01:46:08,904 how much longer. 2869 01:46:10,156 --> 01:46:13,909 ROB: I... I can't. 2870 01:46:10,156 --> 01:46:13,909 I wish I could. 2871 01:46:15,077 --> 01:46:17,955 -Are you okay? 2872 01:46:15,077 --> 01:46:17,955 -I'm fine. I'm just... 2873 01:46:17,997 --> 01:46:21,042 Rob, I'm a Managing Partner now. 2874 01:46:21,083 --> 01:46:22,835 I have a firm to run. 2875 01:46:22,877 --> 01:46:26,881 I know. And Tom, I think there 2876 01:46:22,877 --> 01:46:26,881 could be a huge pay-out here... 2877 01:46:26,922 --> 01:46:28,632 You think I'm in this for money? 2878 01:46:29,091 --> 01:46:30,551 -No, I... 2879 01:46:29,091 --> 01:46:30,551 TOM: You think I am... 2880 01:46:31,177 --> 01:46:33,804 I've been letting you 2881 01:46:31,177 --> 01:46:33,804 drag this firm's reputation 2882 01:46:33,846 --> 01:46:36,807 through a meat grinder for 2883 01:46:33,846 --> 01:46:36,807 some kind of plaintiff's payoff? 2884 01:46:38,851 --> 01:46:41,145 I... I don't know 2885 01:46:38,851 --> 01:46:41,145 why you're doing it. 2886 01:46:41,187 --> 01:46:42,104 (Tom sighs) 2887 01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:48,527 Rob, listen, I'm sorry, 2888 01:46:48,569 --> 01:46:51,113 but you're gonna have to take 2889 01:46:48,569 --> 01:46:51,113 another pay cut. 2890 01:46:51,155 --> 01:46:53,406 ROB: Tom, that's 2891 01:46:51,155 --> 01:46:53,406 my fourth pay cut. 2892 01:46:53,448 --> 01:46:54,867 (stammers) 2893 01:46:54,909 --> 01:46:57,245 I... I'm down to a third now. 2894 01:46:57,286 --> 01:46:59,580 TOM: You don't have any clients. 2895 01:46:57,286 --> 01:46:59,580 No one will take your calls. 2896 01:47:01,207 --> 01:47:02,958 What am I supposed to do here? 2897 01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,294 Now, I'm on your side, but... 2898 01:47:05,753 --> 01:47:07,046 Rob? 2899 01:47:07,546 --> 01:47:10,007 Amy? Amy! 2900 01:47:10,049 --> 01:47:12,009 SECRETARY: Kathleen! 2901 01:47:10,049 --> 01:47:12,009 TOM: Get some help! 2902 01:47:12,051 --> 01:47:13,761 SECRETARY: Kathleen! 2903 01:47:12,051 --> 01:47:13,761 TOM: Get some help! 2904 01:47:13,802 --> 01:47:16,013 KATHLEEN: Rob! Rob! 2905 01:47:19,016 --> 01:47:21,518 (dramatic music) 2906 01:47:26,190 --> 01:47:30,945 TOM: Looks like we should cancel 2907 01:47:26,190 --> 01:47:30,945 my 4:00 with Jerry and... 2908 01:47:31,695 --> 01:47:34,282 I don't know. 2909 01:47:31,695 --> 01:47:34,282 We're waiting to find out. 2910 01:47:36,909 --> 01:47:38,202 Uh... 2911 01:47:38,702 --> 01:47:41,580 Make sure that, 2912 01:47:38,702 --> 01:47:41,580 uh, Jerry knows... 2913 01:47:42,623 --> 01:47:44,250 I have to go. 2914 01:47:45,042 --> 01:47:46,752 DOCTOR: Mrs Bilott? 2915 01:47:45,042 --> 01:47:46,752 -Yes. 2916 01:47:46,794 --> 01:47:49,880 We think your husband's 2917 01:47:46,794 --> 01:47:49,880 most likely experienced a TIA. 2918 01:47:49,922 --> 01:47:52,341 A transient ischemic attack. 2919 01:47:52,383 --> 01:47:54,676 Blood is briefly 2920 01:47:52,383 --> 01:47:54,676 cut off to the brain 2921 01:47:54,718 --> 01:47:56,469 mimicking the symptoms 2922 01:47:54,718 --> 01:47:56,469 of a stroke. 2923 01:47:58,306 --> 01:48:00,182 Uh, excuse me. A TIA? 2924 01:48:00,724 --> 01:48:02,268 This wasn't short. 2925 01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:06,314 -It... It kept going on. 2926 01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:06,314 SARAH: What about poison? 2927 01:48:06,355 --> 01:48:07,815 DOCTOR: I'm sorry? 2928 01:48:08,441 --> 01:48:10,985 Could someone be 2929 01:48:08,441 --> 01:48:10,985 poisoning him? 2930 01:48:11,026 --> 01:48:13,946 No, Mrs Bilott. 2931 01:48:11,026 --> 01:48:13,946 This is neurological. 2932 01:48:14,780 --> 01:48:16,489 SARAH: You just said 2933 01:48:14,780 --> 01:48:16,489 it wasn't a stroke. 2934 01:48:16,531 --> 01:48:18,700 (sighs) 2935 01:48:16,531 --> 01:48:18,700 -Not this time. 2936 01:48:18,742 --> 01:48:20,411 -What does that mean? 2937 01:48:18,742 --> 01:48:20,411 DOCTOR: Well, it means that 2938 01:48:20,453 --> 01:48:22,204 he needs to never 2939 01:48:20,453 --> 01:48:22,204 miss his medication. 2940 01:48:22,246 --> 01:48:24,415 And he needs to reduce 2941 01:48:22,246 --> 01:48:24,415 all sources of stress 2942 01:48:24,457 --> 01:48:26,417 -in his life. 2943 01:48:24,457 --> 01:48:26,417 (sighs) 2944 01:48:26,459 --> 01:48:28,419 He's under enormous 2945 01:48:26,459 --> 01:48:28,419 pressure at work. 2946 01:48:28,877 --> 01:48:32,006 Well, that needs to change. 2947 01:48:28,877 --> 01:48:32,006 But he's a young man. 2948 01:48:32,047 --> 01:48:34,342 He shouldn't be 2949 01:48:32,047 --> 01:48:34,342 having these incidences. 2950 01:48:34,967 --> 01:48:36,760 He's sedated, 2951 01:48:34,967 --> 01:48:36,760 but you can see him. 2952 01:48:36,802 --> 01:48:38,637 I'll check in on him tomorrow. 2953 01:48:38,679 --> 01:48:40,306 Thank you. Thank you. 2954 01:48:47,813 --> 01:48:50,941 TOM: I'll, uh, 2955 01:48:47,813 --> 01:48:50,941 give you some privacy. 2956 01:48:52,651 --> 01:48:55,654 Anything you need, call me. 2957 01:48:58,740 --> 01:49:01,160 I need you to stop making him 2958 01:48:58,740 --> 01:49:01,160 feel like a failure. 2959 01:49:06,748 --> 01:49:07,875 (sighs) 2960 01:49:07,916 --> 01:49:09,835 I appreciate the stress 2961 01:49:09,877 --> 01:49:12,087 that your family 2962 01:49:09,877 --> 01:49:12,087 must be going through. 2963 01:49:12,129 --> 01:49:14,965 SARAH: Please don't talk to me 2964 01:49:12,129 --> 01:49:14,965 like I'm the wife. 2965 01:49:19,053 --> 01:49:22,639 Did Rob ever tell you about 2966 01:49:19,053 --> 01:49:22,639 moving around as a kid? 2967 01:49:23,265 --> 01:49:24,766 TOM: Well, I, uh... 2968 01:49:24,808 --> 01:49:27,144 Ten times before senior year. 2969 01:49:27,186 --> 01:49:29,938 No friends, no ties, no... 2970 01:49:29,980 --> 01:49:32,774 Just him, 2971 01:49:29,980 --> 01:49:32,774 his sister, his folks. 2972 01:49:34,068 --> 01:49:36,737 Then I came along 2973 01:49:34,068 --> 01:49:36,737 and you came along and... 2974 01:49:38,739 --> 01:49:41,534 Taft, it's not just a job. 2975 01:49:41,574 --> 01:49:44,703 To him, it's... it's home. 2976 01:49:47,998 --> 01:49:50,751 And he was willing 2977 01:49:47,998 --> 01:49:50,751 to risk all that 2978 01:49:50,792 --> 01:49:53,879 for a stranger 2979 01:49:50,792 --> 01:49:53,879 who needed his help. 2980 01:49:54,922 --> 01:50:00,261 Now, you and I may not know 2981 01:49:54,922 --> 01:50:00,261 what that is, 2982 01:50:02,096 --> 01:50:03,889 but it's not failure. 2983 01:50:12,898 --> 01:50:14,607 (monitor beeping) 2984 01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:25,953 PARISHIONERS: 2985 01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:25,953 ♪ You guard me from the foe ♪ 2986 01:50:26,745 --> 01:50:33,419 ♪ And you lead me 2987 01:50:26,745 --> 01:50:33,419 in ways everlasting ♪ 2988 01:50:38,549 --> 01:50:42,886 ♪ Lord, you have 2989 01:50:38,549 --> 01:50:42,886 searched my heart ♪ 2990 01:50:42,928 --> 01:50:48,350 ♪ And you know when I sit 2991 01:50:42,928 --> 01:50:48,350 and when I stand ♪ 2992 01:50:48,392 --> 01:50:51,686 ♪ Your hand is upon me ♪ 2993 01:50:51,728 --> 01:50:55,441 ♪ Protecting me from death ♪ 2994 01:50:55,483 --> 01:50:59,694 ♪ Keeping me from harm ♪ 2995 01:51:02,490 --> 01:51:05,242 ♪ Oh, Lord ♪ 2996 01:51:05,284 --> 01:51:10,372 ♪ I know you are near ♪ 2997 01:51:13,792 --> 01:51:20,549 ♪ Standing always at my side ♪ 2998 01:51:24,677 --> 01:51:28,723 ♪ You guard me from the foe ♪ 2999 01:51:33,437 --> 01:51:35,856 (music playing faintly 3000 01:51:33,437 --> 01:51:35,856 on stereo) 3001 01:51:44,490 --> 01:51:45,949 (dinging) 3002 01:51:48,285 --> 01:51:50,663 MAN: Hey, 3003 01:51:48,285 --> 01:51:50,663 do you know the score? 3004 01:51:52,414 --> 01:51:53,415 The game? 3005 01:51:54,208 --> 01:51:56,210 Sorry, my radio's busted. 3006 01:51:57,461 --> 01:51:58,837 Sorry. 3007 01:51:58,879 --> 01:52:01,298 Don't worry about it. 3008 01:51:58,879 --> 01:52:01,298 It'll be a surprise. 3009 01:52:01,340 --> 01:52:03,133 WOMAN: Bucky, come on. 3010 01:52:01,340 --> 01:52:03,133 We'll be late. 3011 01:52:04,801 --> 01:52:05,927 Have a good one. 3012 01:52:10,765 --> 01:52:12,560 (car door closes) 3013 01:52:10,765 --> 01:52:12,560 (engine starts) 3014 01:52:39,253 --> 01:52:41,129 (inaudible) 3015 01:53:03,944 --> 01:53:05,153 (door closes) 3016 01:53:47,613 --> 01:53:49,740 (phone beeps) 3017 01:53:47,613 --> 01:53:49,740 MAN: Hey, Rob, Bill Leary. 3018 01:53:49,782 --> 01:53:51,158 Uh, we haven't met. 3019 01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:52,951 I'm the new comptroller 3020 01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:52,951 out of Indianapolis. 3021 01:53:52,993 --> 01:53:55,370 Listen, we've got to talk 3022 01:53:52,993 --> 01:53:55,370 about your unbilled hours 3023 01:53:55,412 --> 01:53:56,997 and these unreimbursed... 3024 01:53:58,373 --> 01:54:01,126 (phone ringing) 3025 01:54:13,221 --> 01:54:15,557 -Hello? 3026 01:54:13,221 --> 01:54:15,557 WOMAN: Mr Bilott? 3027 01:54:16,183 --> 01:54:17,476 Yes? 3028 01:54:17,518 --> 01:54:19,227 WOMAN: I guess I should start 3029 01:54:19,269 --> 01:54:23,273 by apologising for taking... 3030 01:54:19,269 --> 01:54:23,273 well, seven years to call you. 3031 01:54:23,315 --> 01:54:25,442 -Who is this? 3032 01:54:23,315 --> 01:54:25,442 WOMAN: Oh, yes, of course. 3033 01:54:25,484 --> 01:54:28,153 It's Dr Karen Frank 3034 01:54:25,484 --> 01:54:28,153 from the... 3035 01:54:28,195 --> 01:54:29,946 Science Panel? 3036 01:54:29,988 --> 01:54:32,533 KAREN: Again, I'm so sorry 3037 01:54:32,574 --> 01:54:34,827 to have kept you waiting 3038 01:54:32,574 --> 01:54:34,827 this long, Mr Bilott. 3039 01:54:34,868 --> 01:54:36,745 But there was just 3040 01:54:34,868 --> 01:54:36,745 so much data... 3041 01:54:36,787 --> 01:54:38,706 Please, doctor, 3042 01:54:36,787 --> 01:54:38,706 please, can you... 3043 01:54:38,747 --> 01:54:41,458 Would you just please 3044 01:54:38,747 --> 01:54:41,458 tell me what's happened? 3045 01:54:41,500 --> 01:54:44,127 What's happening? 3046 01:54:41,500 --> 01:54:44,127 What you've found out? 3047 01:54:44,169 --> 01:54:47,964 Yes. You gave us an 3048 01:54:44,169 --> 01:54:47,964 unprecedented amount of data. 3049 01:54:48,006 --> 01:54:51,468 The largest epidemiological 3050 01:54:48,006 --> 01:54:51,468 study in human history. 3051 01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:53,345 It's irrefutable. 3052 01:54:53,387 --> 01:54:56,139 We have linked 3053 01:54:53,387 --> 01:54:56,139 sustained exposure to C8 3054 01:54:56,181 --> 01:54:59,059 to six categories 3055 01:54:56,181 --> 01:54:59,059 of serious illness. 3056 01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:00,143 (sighs) 3057 01:55:04,481 --> 01:55:07,942 KAREN: Kidney cancer, 3058 01:55:04,481 --> 01:55:07,942 testicular cancer, 3059 01:55:07,984 --> 01:55:11,029 thyroid disease, 3060 01:55:07,984 --> 01:55:11,029 pre-eclampsia, 3061 01:55:11,071 --> 01:55:14,324 high cholesterol, 3062 01:55:11,071 --> 01:55:14,324 ulcerative colitis. 3063 01:55:14,991 --> 01:55:19,371 3,535 people in the Class 3064 01:55:14,991 --> 01:55:19,371 already have these diseases. 3065 01:55:19,413 --> 01:55:21,498 Many more will develop them. 3066 01:55:23,542 --> 01:55:27,087 Thanks to you, the entire 3067 01:55:23,542 --> 01:55:27,087 Class will be monitored 3068 01:55:27,128 --> 01:55:30,507 and those who get sick 3069 01:55:27,128 --> 01:55:30,507 can seek restitution. 3070 01:55:31,925 --> 01:55:33,968 You did a good thing here, 3071 01:55:31,925 --> 01:55:33,968 Mr Bilott. 3072 01:55:35,011 --> 01:55:36,388 You did good. 3073 01:55:38,432 --> 01:55:39,725 Thank you. 3074 01:55:54,155 --> 01:55:57,451 (soft music) 3075 01:56:32,694 --> 01:56:34,404 (Rob crying softly) 3076 01:56:44,581 --> 01:56:46,792 (imperceptible conversations) 3077 01:57:06,186 --> 01:57:07,729 (mobile buzzing) 3078 01:57:32,713 --> 01:57:34,088 Rob? 3079 01:57:35,256 --> 01:57:36,591 What happened? 3080 01:57:40,637 --> 01:57:41,889 Rob? 3081 01:57:44,391 --> 01:57:46,059 DuPont, they're reneging. 3082 01:57:48,770 --> 01:57:51,147 -Which part? 3083 01:57:48,770 --> 01:57:51,147 ROB: All of it. 3084 01:57:51,940 --> 01:57:53,901 They're tearing up 3085 01:57:51,940 --> 01:57:53,901 our agreement. 3086 01:57:53,942 --> 01:57:55,610 Rejecting the Science Panel. 3087 01:57:55,652 --> 01:57:59,072 They're gonna fight 3088 01:57:55,652 --> 01:57:59,072 every claim in court. 3089 01:57:59,113 --> 01:58:00,657 Thousands of claims. 3090 01:58:00,699 --> 01:58:02,993 People, sick people, 3091 01:58:00,699 --> 01:58:02,993 they'll give up. 3092 01:58:03,035 --> 01:58:04,870 They can't fight DuPont! 3093 01:58:04,912 --> 01:58:07,288 SARAH: How can they 3094 01:58:04,912 --> 01:58:07,288 go back on... 3095 01:58:07,330 --> 01:58:08,373 ROB: Sarah. 3096 01:58:08,415 --> 01:58:09,791 They can't go back 3097 01:58:08,415 --> 01:58:09,791 on everything. 3098 01:58:09,833 --> 01:58:11,209 They're a titan of industry. 3099 01:58:11,251 --> 01:58:12,586 They can do whatever 3100 01:58:11,251 --> 01:58:12,586 the hell they want. 3101 01:58:12,627 --> 01:58:13,754 Nothing else matters. 3102 01:58:13,795 --> 01:58:15,338 SARAH: They can fight you 3103 01:58:13,795 --> 01:58:15,338 all they want. 3104 01:58:15,380 --> 01:58:17,131 It doesn't take away 3105 01:58:15,380 --> 01:58:17,131 from what you've done! 3106 01:58:17,173 --> 01:58:18,926 Of course it does. 3107 01:58:18,967 --> 01:58:20,844 That's exactly what it does! 3108 01:58:21,887 --> 01:58:24,180 They want to show the world 3109 01:58:21,887 --> 01:58:24,180 that it's no use fighting. 3110 01:58:24,222 --> 01:58:27,141 "Look, everybody, 3111 01:58:24,222 --> 01:58:27,141 even he can't crack the maze 3112 01:58:27,183 --> 01:58:28,560 and he's helped build it!" 3113 01:58:29,227 --> 01:58:31,646 The system is rigged! 3114 01:58:32,230 --> 01:58:35,483 They want us to 3115 01:58:32,230 --> 01:58:35,483 think it'll protect us, 3116 01:58:32,230 --> 01:58:35,483 but that's a lie. 3117 01:58:35,525 --> 01:58:39,320 We protect us. We do. 3118 01:58:35,525 --> 01:58:39,320 Nobody else. 3119 01:58:40,614 --> 01:58:42,156 (scoffs) 3120 01:58:40,614 --> 01:58:42,156 -Not the companies. 3121 01:58:42,198 --> 01:58:43,575 Not the scientists. 3122 01:58:43,617 --> 01:58:45,577 Not the government. Us. 3123 01:58:48,538 --> 01:58:52,042 A farmer with a twelfth-grade 3124 01:58:48,538 --> 01:58:52,042 education told me that. 3125 01:58:54,168 --> 01:58:58,799 On day one, he knew and I... 3126 01:58:54,168 --> 01:58:58,799 and I thought he was crazy. 3127 01:59:04,972 --> 01:59:07,140 (scoffs) 3128 01:59:04,972 --> 01:59:07,140 -Isn't that crazy? 3129 01:59:11,812 --> 01:59:13,105 No. 3130 02:00:20,172 --> 02:00:22,841 COURT OFFICER: All rise. 3131 02:00:20,172 --> 02:00:22,841 The honourable Timothy Burg, 3132 02:00:22,883 --> 02:00:26,136 United States District Judge 3133 02:00:22,883 --> 02:00:26,136 for the Southern District 3134 02:00:22,883 --> 02:00:26,136 of Ohio presiding. 3135 02:00:26,178 --> 02:00:28,847 This court is now in session 3136 02:00:26,178 --> 02:00:28,847 pursuant to the adjournment. 3137 02:00:28,889 --> 02:00:30,724 Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye. 3138 02:00:30,765 --> 02:00:33,309 All persons having business 3139 02:00:30,765 --> 02:00:33,309 with this honourable court 3140 02:00:33,351 --> 02:00:36,396 draw near, give their attention 3141 02:00:33,351 --> 02:00:36,396 and they shall be heard. 3142 02:00:36,437 --> 02:00:37,981 God save the United States 3143 02:00:38,023 --> 02:00:39,900 And this honourable court. 3144 02:00:38,023 --> 02:00:39,900 (gavel bangs) 3145 02:00:39,941 --> 02:00:43,153 Please be seated and we're here 3146 02:00:39,941 --> 02:00:43,153 this morning for a jury trial. 3147 02:00:43,820 --> 02:00:48,867 - So, 3,535 claims. 3148 02:00:48,909 --> 02:00:51,411 At a rate of four or five 3149 02:00:48,909 --> 02:00:51,411 cases a year, 3150 02:00:51,452 --> 02:00:53,621 we can all expect 3151 02:00:51,452 --> 02:00:53,621 to be here till... 3152 02:00:54,414 --> 02:00:58,085 Well, the year 2890. 3153 02:00:54,414 --> 02:00:58,085 If we're lucky. 3154 02:00:58,126 --> 02:00:59,878 Guess we'd better get started. 3155 02:01:00,253 --> 02:01:02,589 Mrs. Johnson, 3156 02:01:00,253 --> 02:01:02,589 is your attorney present? 3157 02:01:03,423 --> 02:01:06,426 Good morning, Your Honour. 3158 02:01:03,423 --> 02:01:06,426 Rob Bilott for the plaintiff. 3159 02:01:06,467 --> 02:01:08,887 - Oh, still here, huh? 3160 02:01:09,470 --> 02:01:10,513 Still here. 3161 02:02:05,568 --> 02:02:07,195 (inaudible) 3162 02:02:08,863 --> 02:02:10,740 (music playing) 3163 02:02:13,827 --> 02:02:17,164 ♪ Well, I won't back down ♪ 3164 02:02:18,206 --> 02:02:21,334 ♪ No, I won't back down ♪ 3165 02:02:22,335 --> 02:02:26,589 ♪ You can stand me up 3166 02:02:22,335 --> 02:02:26,589 at the gates of hell ♪ 3167 02:02:26,631 --> 02:02:30,093 ♪ But I won't back down ♪ 3168 02:02:30,927 --> 02:02:34,806 ♪ Gonna stand my ground ♪ 3169 02:02:34,848 --> 02:02:38,310 ♪ Won't be turned around ♪ 3170 02:02:39,186 --> 02:02:43,690 ♪ And I'll keep this world 3171 02:02:39,186 --> 02:02:43,690 from draggin' me down ♪ 3172 02:02:43,731 --> 02:02:47,068 ♪ Gonna stand my ground ♪ 3173 02:02:47,902 --> 02:02:50,864 ♪ And I won't back down ♪ 3174 02:02:52,573 --> 02:02:55,535 ♪ Hey, baby ♪ 3175 02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:59,831 ♪ There ain't 3176 02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:59,831 no easy way out ♪ 3177 02:03:01,124 --> 02:03:03,793 ♪ Hey, I ♪ 3178 02:03:04,669 --> 02:03:08,048 ♪ Will stand my ground ♪ 3179 02:03:08,923 --> 02:03:12,344 ♪ And I won't back down ♪ 3180 02:03:21,435 --> 02:03:24,647 ♪ Well, I know what's right ♪ 3181 02:03:25,732 --> 02:03:29,236 ♪ I got just one life ♪ 3182 02:03:29,986 --> 02:03:34,241 ♪ In a world that keeps 3183 02:03:29,986 --> 02:03:34,241 on pushin' me around ♪ 3184 02:03:34,282 --> 02:03:37,410 ♪ But I stand my ground ♪ 3185 02:03:38,411 --> 02:03:41,664 ♪ And I won't back down ♪ 3186 02:03:43,166 --> 02:03:46,086 ♪ Hey, baby ♪ 3187 02:03:47,628 --> 02:03:50,006 ♪ There ain't no 3188 02:03:47,628 --> 02:03:50,006 easy way out ♪ 3189 02:03:51,632 --> 02:03:54,427 ♪ Hey, I ♪ 3190 02:03:55,303 --> 02:03:58,598 ♪ Will stand my ground ♪ 3191 02:03:59,307 --> 02:04:02,810 ♪ And I won't back down ♪ 3192 02:04:03,811 --> 02:04:07,232 ♪ No, I won't back down ♪ 182131