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[light dramatic music]
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[light music]
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[static crackling]
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- The basis of your
thinking is determined
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by the first images you see;
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whose values are important and
whose stories are important,
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and that's what we're teaching
little girls and little boys.
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[light music]
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- The power of what
you see in childhood
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really gets into the DNA
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of what becomes possible
for you growing up.
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- Media has the
power to educate,
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to shape people's thoughts.
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It also has an incredible power
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when you get to see someone
who's like you on screen.
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- The images that all of us see
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influence how we
treat each other,
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and how policy is formed,
and how ideas are built.
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- Filmmaking has told us no.
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Women shouldn't be focused
on or learned about;
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their desires, their wants,
their needs, their fears.
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- We're not just shaping the
perspectives in this country,
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we're shaping perspectives
around the world.
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- We've had such a tiny slice
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of what's evocative to
the world on the screen.
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[gun firing]
[glass shattering]
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- 80% of the media
consumed worldwide
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is created in the United States.
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We are responsible for exporting
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a pretty negative view of women.
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- [Man] Pete, I told you,
don't play sports with women.
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- [Boy] You play
ball like a girl.
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- Most of television,
most of film,
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is men making stuff
for other men.
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- Women are virtually excluded
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from the directing profession,
we are disappeared.
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- We have to all decide
together that it's enough.
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- The door has to be opened,
we just want inclusion.
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[thoughtful music]
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[traffic passing]
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- Remember the kids books in
the 50s, See Dick, See Jane?
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And I just felt like we
see Dick all the time.
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[audience laughing]
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[audience applauding]
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And I just wanted
to see more Jane.
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When I was a teen, my parents
subscribed to Reader's Digest,
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and I remember
reading some article
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about why feminists
are ruining the world.
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I didn't know what a
feminist was, but I said,
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whatever that is, I'm sure
I don't wanna be that,
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because they're
ruining the world.
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- Oh, do you feel the
breeze from the subway?
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- [Geena] I was obsessed
with becoming a movie star.
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I watched TV a lot.
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- Hi, Ginger!
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- Hi, Gilligan!
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- [Geena] So I'm thinking,
Ginger, movie star.
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- I'm from Hollywood, I've
been chased by the best.
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- My first job, Lynn
Stalmaster's office
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called model agencies.
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The character had to look
good in their underwear.
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I had been in Victoria's
Secret catalogue.
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Airbrushed, perfectly lit.
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They were like, let's get her!
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- Oh, I'm sorry!
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- Okay, that's okay.
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So the very first thing I shot
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was in my underwear,
with Dustin.
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- I have to kiss Dr. Brewster.
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- Oh, yeah, he kisses all
the women on the show.
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We call him the tongue.
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- Movies and television have
always driven me insane.
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The misogyny is just so,
it's almost unremarkable.
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♪ Girls, girls, girls ♪
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Back when I was
doing music videos,
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I just saw that women were
absolutely inconsequential
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as anything other
than ornamentation.
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I was learning to just shut
up and get the job done.
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Just driving home one night,
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I just saw the whole
thing in one flash.
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And I had never written
anything before.
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- Of all the movies I
did, Thelma & Louise
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changed the course of my life.
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- Well, darlin', look out,
'cause my hair is comin' down.
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- All right.
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- [Callie] All of us were
- Smile.
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- stunned the movie had the
kind of impact that it did.
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- You are disturbed!
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- Yeah, I believe I am.
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The reaction that
it got from women,
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[gun firing]
it was completely different.
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- You gonna apologize or what?
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- They'd say things like,
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my friend and I
acted out your trip.
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And I'd be like, what part?
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[gun firing]
[exploding]
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- When they blow up that truck,
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it's just like, oh,
you get such a rush.
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- There was something
I think freeing
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in every woman that watched it.
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- It showed me like, wow,
you can have power as a woman
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and not have to be in
completely of service
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of submitting 1,000%.
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- My husband wasn't sweet to
me, look how I turned out.
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- [Lesli] It's
unusual seeing woman
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- Shit!
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- as complicated,
able to make mistakes,
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able to be funny and
sexual, and troubled.
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- I had been
awakened to how women
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are portrayed in the media.
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I realized we give them
so few opportunities
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to feel inspired by
the female characters.
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- [Man] Pops it out of bounds.
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- The next movie was
A League Of Their Own.
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Now it was girls
coming up and saying,
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I play sports because
of that movie.
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- I can't do that.
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- Who can?
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- A League Of Their Own was
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a very influential
movie for me as a kid.
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It was one of the first movies
that really affected me,
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I watched it every day
for a whole summer.
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- I hadn't thought about the
girls in the audience before.
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I realized we need to
make sure girls can see
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female characters doing this.
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We don't have enough
real life role models.
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- Okay, I gotta get
tough with you guys!
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- We all grew up where
it was perfectly okay
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to have TV shows that
had no female characters.
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[phone ringing]
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- Call precinct, Jumana.
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- If there is a
female character,
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they're usually the one
with a group of males.
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- [Chris] Whereas
the male characters,
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they might have four or
five lead characters.
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- We want something else!
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- So that you could
have the one who is this
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and the one who is this,
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and the funny one
and the smart one.
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- I'm the brains, you're the
looks, Charlie's the wildcard,
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and Frank is the muscle.
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- [Charlie] Well, what's Dee?
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- She's the useless chick.
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- [Both] Oh!
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- Yeah!
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- Guys get to see themselves
get to become a writer,
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get to become an astronaut.
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And women get to be the
girlfriend that gets ditched.
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- Is everything okay, baby?
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- Mostly we're being saved.
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- [Spiderman] You have a
knack for getting in trouble.
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- You have a knack
for saving my life.
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- The woman in the story has
to be the most beautiful woman
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so that the man is
attracted to her.
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- What's wrong, daddy?
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- The reason we have
much less complexity,
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it very much reflects on
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what's the point of view
that you take to a film?
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- How do you write
women so well?
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- I think of a man,
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and I take away reason
and accountability.
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- White straight
men who come from
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a certain class background
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have had their hands
on the narrative
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for as long as this
country has been around.
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- Our anger, our frustration,
our rage is the thing
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that stories have
been told about
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for generations and generations.
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- All the way back
into the 1800s,
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you've had a type
of American hero,
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which I would say is the same
as the American antihero.
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- From now on, you
stay out of this.
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All of ya, I don't
want you with me.
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- It's the western myth
extrapolated into any story.
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There is one man,
usually middle aged,
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he's a veteran,
retired gunslinger.
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They need to pick
up their guns again
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[gun firing]
[screaming]
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to eliminate any challenge
to their manhood.
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[grunting]
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This concept, it's
inherently sexist.
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[gun firing]
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Because the women are
in orbit around the men.
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- [Woman] Oh it looks so good.
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- As a writer, I've
been in many situations
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where a studio
calls me and says,
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we want you to do a couple days
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of a pass on a movie with
the female characters.
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I'm like, guys, that's
not how it works.
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- Bringing a female writer
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to punch up the girlfriend
character, that isn't enough.
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- I call that spackling,
and I have come to realize
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that my job is really
just to show up
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and spackle those cracks in.
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- Early in my career, I would
take the girlfriend role
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and say, I'm gonna fuck this up
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and turn this inside out
like a leech on a barbed wire
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and try and make something
different out of it.
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- Nine times out of 10, I'm
gonna give you something
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so multidimensional, because
I know what I'm bringing in
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is much deeper than the
words they put on that page.
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- Please, come on now.
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What about Billy?
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- I'm not taking him with me.
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In Kramer vs. Kramer, I
was representing a woman
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who had left a child
because she was undergoing
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psychological problems.
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The writer and the
director and my costar
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all were putting their
heads to what would she say,
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what would she say, what
could she possibly say?
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I anticipated this whole thing.
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- Okay, look, I don't
wanna get into this.
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You're gonna have to do what
you're gonna have to do,
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and I'm gonna have to
do what I'm gonna--
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- All right, I'm very
sorry about this.
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We all went into our rooms.
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Each of us wrote our version
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of how she would
defend this decision.
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And it was easy for
me to write that
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because I could empathize.
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I had to believe that it was
the only thing I could do.
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And that it was the
best thing for him.
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I was incapable of
functioning in that home.
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But where the story was located,
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- How does it feel?
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- was in the head and in the
heart of its male protagonist.
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And what she thought was,
oh, we'll ask the actress.
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- Imagine you're a woman in
the theater and this movie,
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that even though there are
50% of you occupy the world,
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this movie's not made for you.
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[suspenseful music]
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One of the reasons I don't
watch a lot of films of mine
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is because you see
yourself through the eyes
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of the male camera operator,
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and you see yourself through
the eyes of the male director.
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When I think I'm acting, it's
really panning across my ass.
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Weather advisory, if
you're gonna go outside,
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bring a paddle.
[water dripping]
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- I don't know what my
life would have been like
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if you guys hadn't moved here.
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I came out to L.A. and
I met a woman agent
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who said to me, this business
is about tits and ass,
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which you have neither of.
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[light music]
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- Imagine, as a man,
people really wanting
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to look at your body
when they see you,
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and look at your clothes,
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and look at your
hair and your eyes.
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Just the thought exercise of
going through your whole life
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knowing that the way your
body is shaped matters more
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to the world than what
you're thinking about.
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- We definitely internalize
the representations of women
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on screen when
we're young girls.
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It's important
first and foremost
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to have men see you
in a certain way.
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I definitely felt
from a very young age
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that you're being
turned into an object,
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as opposed to how do
I look at the world,
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what do you desire,
what do you want?
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That's the big mental shift
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that I wish I had
when I was a kid.
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[light music]
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- I created my own production
company, Freckle Films,
266
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and one thing I've realized
that I'm eliminating
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is the description
of female characters.
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- Dr. Jones, 35, bitchy,
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she's pretty but
she doesn't know it,
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or she's slightly over the hill.
271
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- When you are working with
writers of a lesser ability,
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the lesser
intelligence, actually,
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then they're gonna define
women by their hair color.
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- Here I go again, feisty,
sexy, hot, hot tempered.
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- We have been otherized by men,
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really to be able to allow men
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to give birth to their
own subjectivity.
278
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- It's a system and a structure
279
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that has long stacked
the odds against us,
280
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so we've been written
out of a lot of spaces.
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- Growing up, I never saw
anyone that represented me
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or looked like me, or
wow, I wanna be like her.
283
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This is a day in the
life for the people.
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When I tried to get an agent,
285
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they didn't know
where to place me.
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They're like, okay,
you're Latina,
287
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but you don't look Mexican.
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And I'm not like,
I'm not though.
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- Give me my change,
get the food!
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After I did Baby Boy,
every role I got was hood.
291
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This girl, waa,
waa, waa, waa, waa.
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I'm a trained
actress, and here I am
293
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getting offered ghetto roles.
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[laughing]
Whatever, okay.
295
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So I never judged it, but I
wasn't gonna stereotype myself
296
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and continue to
take those roles.
297
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And yes, I had to work,
but I had to be strategic,
298
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because I saw a bigger
picture for myself.
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[light music]
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- 90% of the content that I
would digest through media
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puts me as a sidekick
or as the girl next door
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because of the color
of my skin or my sex.
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- I felt for a while
that I had to fit myself
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into some sort of conception
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of what it meant to
be a black woman,
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instead of realizing
that there is
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so much diversity
within that identity.
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- If you don't drop
these macho attitudes,
309
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you are never gonna have
anybody bringing you anything
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anywhere, any place,
anytime, ever.
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- Cosby and The Jeffersons
♪ Movin' on up ♪
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♪ Movin' on up ♪
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was the only ones where they
was doin' all right in life.
314
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♪ Good times ♪
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Good Times, they sufferin'.
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I don't wanna live that life.
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What's Happening,
they were strugglin'.
318
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Dang, is it all bad?
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[Dynasty theme song]
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And then I remember
watchin' Dynasty
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and a black woman shows up,
and it's Diahann Carroll.
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- What do you want?
323
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- It's the first time I see
a black woman with money,
324
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wearin' diamonds, she's
havin' conversations
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with white women like
she not even black.
326
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- Retract this or I'll
cram it down your throat.
327
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- Will ya?
328
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- She slapped this
white woman so hard.
329
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And they was wrestling,
and I was like, what?
330
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And she didn't even go to jail.
331
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[suspenseful music]
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That's when I started thinkin',
oh, I could be anything.
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[laughing]
334
00:16:03,223 --> 00:16:05,573
- The Joy Luck Club
was the first time
335
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I saw myself and my
mother on screen.
336
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- You don't know the
power you have over me.
337
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- It impacted me so
deeply emotionally,
338
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way beyond what the
content of the film was.
339
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- Four years old, I could
cry myself to sleep.
340
00:16:20,936 --> 00:16:23,591
- Seeing and experiencing
for the first time
341
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all that storytelling that I
thought was mine, was not mine.
342
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- It's devastating
when a little girl
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doesn't see herself on screen.
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I've been one of those little
girls looking for myself.
345
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You start to believe that there
is something wrong with you.
346
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- It just sort of
fucks with your psyche.
347
00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:44,046
You're like, I think I exist,
348
00:16:44,177 --> 00:16:47,180
why aren't I reflected
back at what I see?
349
00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:49,573
- There's also a shame
that starts to come in.
350
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I must not be worthy to be
seen or I don't feel that way,
351
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so what I'm feeling
must be wrong.
352
00:16:59,931 --> 00:17:02,630
- If we only show
one perspective,
353
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it means that we
don't take seriously
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every human being's right
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to understand the world
from their perspective.
356
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If you imagine
this as the mirror
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and you reflect life
from this perspective,
358
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it will be really different
if you put the mirror
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from this angle instead.
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[gasping]
361
00:17:30,919 --> 00:17:33,269
- There is the
need for more films
362
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to come out of the voices
of women and what they want,
363
00:17:37,230 --> 00:17:39,754
and what they value,
and what excites them,
364
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and what terrifies them,
365
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:44,019
and makes them move
through the world.
366
00:17:46,848 --> 00:17:50,895
- There is a different way to
look at stories about women
367
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or stories from the
point of view of a woman.
368
00:17:55,291 --> 00:17:56,814
Our camera placement
is different
369
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because our gaze is different.
370
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- You wanna try to
imagine narratives
371
00:18:03,473 --> 00:18:05,475
in which women don't
need to be rescued,
372
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to try to figure out
how to tell new stories.
373
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[crowd cheering]
374
00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:14,876
- What more incredible,
specific, passionate filmmaking
375
00:18:15,006 --> 00:18:17,966
would we be getting if all of
kinds of people were doing it?
376
00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:22,057
- Like people with disabilities,
377
00:18:22,144 --> 00:18:25,278
or people who are
sexual minorities.
378
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,325
- Everybody has a
nuanced experience,
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whether that's a
young black woman
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who is dealing with being
a part of generation Z,
381
00:18:35,157 --> 00:18:37,072
being in a certain
socioeconomic class,
382
00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:39,553
or being alive in
the 21st century
383
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in which the culture
that we're consuming
384
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is such an amalgamation
of other cultures.
385
00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:49,737
[light dramatic music]
386
00:18:49,867 --> 00:18:52,696
- Women have been
paving this path,
387
00:18:52,827 --> 00:18:54,872
pushing up against
the status quo,
388
00:18:56,613 --> 00:18:59,355
changing how we see ourselves
389
00:19:01,096 --> 00:19:05,448
so that there's an expanded
idea of what you can choose
390
00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:08,799
and how you can have
agency in your own life
391
00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:11,628
so that your path is not
laid out by the structure
392
00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:14,240
that was put in place
way before you got here.
393
00:19:18,505 --> 00:19:21,725
- Imagine having the kind
of protagonism as a woman.
394
00:19:24,728 --> 00:19:26,774
- [Girl] I'm the princess.
395
00:19:26,904 --> 00:19:28,254
[scoffing]
396
00:19:28,384 --> 00:19:31,126
I'm the example.
[apple crunching]
397
00:19:31,257 --> 00:19:34,782
- When I had the
opportunity to create Brave
398
00:19:34,912 --> 00:19:37,393
and the character of Merida,
399
00:19:37,524 --> 00:19:39,221
I purposely went for a princess
400
00:19:39,352 --> 00:19:40,918
just so that I could
throw the princess thing
401
00:19:41,049 --> 00:19:43,530
on its head and not the typical.
402
00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:44,357
[horse running]
403
00:19:44,487 --> 00:19:46,228
- Get back, that's my mother!
404
00:19:46,315 --> 00:19:47,838
[man grunting]
405
00:19:47,969 --> 00:19:51,059
- Images are so powerful that
it will impact real life.
406
00:19:52,713 --> 00:19:57,152
In 2012, my archery coach
noticed that when both Brave
407
00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:00,242
and The Hunger Games came out,
408
00:20:00,373 --> 00:20:03,463
suddenly the percentage
of girls taking up archery
409
00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:10,034
shot up 105%, higher
than adult men.
410
00:20:12,123 --> 00:20:14,691
[CSI theme song]
411
00:20:18,782 --> 00:20:20,741
- After you saw
CSI, after you saw
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female forensic
pathologists on screen,
413
00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:25,528
you saw the field of
forensic pathology
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00:20:25,659 --> 00:20:27,269
grow intensely,
especially among women.
415
00:20:28,618 --> 00:20:30,316
- She shot back.
416
00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:35,669
I just kept seeing again and
again girls who loved this show
417
00:20:35,756 --> 00:20:37,584
and it made my heart sing.
418
00:20:41,457 --> 00:20:44,939
And they are now
half the workforce.
419
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,856
[light music]
420
00:21:00,563 --> 00:21:01,564
- When half of the filmmakers
421
00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:04,872
and the writers are allowed in,
422
00:21:05,002 --> 00:21:07,309
our cultural life will change.
423
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,659
It won't until that happens.
424
00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:18,015
- Since I was a
little kid, for me,
425
00:21:18,146 --> 00:21:21,454
immortality came
from what you create.
426
00:21:23,847 --> 00:21:26,807
When I saw Lina
Wertmuller's Swept Away,
427
00:21:28,852 --> 00:21:32,378
I thought, I can do that.
428
00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:37,034
The passion caught hold of me
in an absolutely complete way.
429
00:21:39,210 --> 00:21:43,693
I wanted to be a
director because I
wanted to have a voice.
430
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:49,699
I had a great experience
in film school.
431
00:21:52,223 --> 00:21:56,140
There was about 50/50
male and female students.
432
00:21:56,271 --> 00:21:58,839
And then within a year
of having graduated,
433
00:21:58,969 --> 00:22:02,277
I was shooting my first
feature film in the UK.
434
00:22:02,408 --> 00:22:05,367
[crowd cheering]
435
00:22:05,498 --> 00:22:08,544
I came back to
L.A. and was signed
436
00:22:08,675 --> 00:22:11,025
with a huge agent,
William Morris.
437
00:22:11,112 --> 00:22:14,985
[cheering]
- [Man] Absolutely Marvelous.
438
00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:18,032
- I was tied to screenplays,
I signed contracts,
439
00:22:18,162 --> 00:22:22,819
I was in development on feature
films, and then nothing.
440
00:22:26,388 --> 00:22:30,218
I started watching my male peers
441
00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:33,090
being celebrated and
beloved filmmakers.
442
00:22:33,221 --> 00:22:34,222
- 10 Oscar nominations.
443
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:35,919
- Yes.
- You've had a great
444
00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:36,877
[laughing]
445
00:22:37,007 --> 00:22:38,313
- I didn't see that happening
446
00:22:38,444 --> 00:22:40,489
for any of my women
friends at all.
447
00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:45,451
- I did 265 episodes
of CSI alone.
448
00:22:45,581 --> 00:22:49,411
I can count on one hand how
many female directors we had.
449
00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:52,371
- Out of 30 or 40 directors
that I worked with,
450
00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:54,416
I've probably worked with
three female directors.
451
00:22:54,547 --> 00:22:58,202
- Before Grey's, I didn't work
with any female directors.
452
00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:00,640
- I've worked with two
female directors on features,
453
00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:04,731
and one is myself.
[chuckling]
454
00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:11,259
- As an assistant director
from '78 until 2006,
455
00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:15,916
I don't think I ever worked
with a woman director.
456
00:23:16,046 --> 00:23:20,181
- We haven't been able to
imagine women as artists
457
00:23:20,311 --> 00:23:22,575
across the board,
and in Hollywood,
458
00:23:22,705 --> 00:23:26,100
that reflects in the writing
and directing numbers.
459
00:23:27,275 --> 00:23:28,755
[light music]
460
00:23:28,885 --> 00:23:33,412
- From among the five
gifted nominees tonight,
461
00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:38,242
the winner could be, for
the first time, a woman.
462
00:23:48,165 --> 00:23:51,995
- Inclusion of women
might change policy.
463
00:23:52,126 --> 00:23:54,476
They might change
what's called great.
464
00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:57,827
- What does good mean?
465
00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:59,873
Good means it resonates
in the body of a man.
466
00:24:01,527 --> 00:24:03,137
When people are
saying, I like this,
467
00:24:03,267 --> 00:24:05,705
they're saying, I see myself.
468
00:24:05,792 --> 00:24:07,097
So men are gonna feel that way
469
00:24:07,228 --> 00:24:09,186
when they see a
myriad of male heroes.
470
00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:21,982
Most of the people writing
the checks are men.
471
00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:23,505
Most of the people making
distribution decisions are men,
472
00:24:23,636 --> 00:24:25,333
and most of the
reviewers are men.
473
00:24:32,601 --> 00:24:34,734
[mystical music]
474
00:24:34,864 --> 00:24:37,040
- I need to know that I can come
475
00:24:37,171 --> 00:24:39,956
and hold onto where I come from.
476
00:24:40,087 --> 00:24:42,872
- With Daughters Of The
Dust, I didn't wanna tell
477
00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:46,310
the same old story that's
been told over and over again,
478
00:24:46,441 --> 00:24:50,140
especially about
African-American
women and our legacy.
479
00:24:59,976 --> 00:25:02,675
At the height of
our distribution, we
only had 13 prints.
480
00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:13,555
Among the filmmakers
coming out that decade,
481
00:25:13,686 --> 00:25:15,862
I was pushed to the side.
482
00:25:15,992 --> 00:25:19,430
The curators of culture decided
that Daughters Of The Dust
483
00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:22,695
did not fit their understanding
484
00:25:22,825 --> 00:25:25,262
of what an African
American film should be.
485
00:25:25,393 --> 00:25:27,961
- [Man] In South Central L.A.,
486
00:25:28,091 --> 00:25:29,919
it's tough to beat the streets.
487
00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:31,965
- Because they pick and choose
who they wanna focus on.
488
00:25:32,139 --> 00:25:34,533
♪ New Jack City ♪
489
00:25:35,664 --> 00:25:37,666
- This is big business.
490
00:25:37,753 --> 00:25:40,060
- It's been shown,
study after study,
491
00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:44,804
that the male directed movies
get bigger distribution,
492
00:25:44,934 --> 00:25:48,808
get on more screens, more
advertising dollars spent.
493
00:25:48,938 --> 00:25:51,462
And then they get their
second film easier,
494
00:25:51,593 --> 00:25:52,725
and then they get
their third one,
495
00:25:52,855 --> 00:25:54,074
and their fourth one.
496
00:25:54,204 --> 00:25:56,511
- I have to admit to
being radically naive.
497
00:25:56,642 --> 00:25:58,121
I said, well, I
guess there's not
498
00:25:58,208 --> 00:26:00,210
sexism in Hollywood
because look at me.
499
00:26:00,341 --> 00:26:00,994
Action!
500
00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:04,693
[light music]
501
00:26:04,824 --> 00:26:05,912
- One of the reasons
I went to film school
502
00:26:06,042 --> 00:26:07,914
was because of Kimberly
Peirce's Boys Don't Cry.
503
00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:11,047
That was such an
incredibly powerful film.
504
00:26:18,925 --> 00:26:21,362
[uplifting music]
505
00:26:21,492 --> 00:26:24,234
- [Man] Hillary Swank
in Boys Don't Cry.
506
00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:25,845
[audience applauding]
507
00:26:25,932 --> 00:26:27,324
- I wanna thank Kimberly Peirce
508
00:26:27,455 --> 00:26:32,591
for her fierce
tenacity and vision.
509
00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:36,159
- Then I got the difficulty
of getting the next project.
510
00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:44,254
- Women directors are hitting
up against this ceiling
511
00:26:44,385 --> 00:26:47,214
at a point, at a critical point
where they could jump from
512
00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:49,869
smaller stuff to
really big stuff.
513
00:26:49,956 --> 00:26:52,785
- There's an assumption
that men are gonna have
514
00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:56,484
an authoritative approach
and women won't have
515
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,792
the wherewithal and the
stamina to push through.
516
00:27:01,402 --> 00:27:02,751
- What we have is
a culture that says
517
00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:04,710
what directors
should be is militant
518
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,450
and loud and aggressive,
519
00:27:06,581 --> 00:27:09,802
but directing doesn't require
a specific temperament,
520
00:27:09,889 --> 00:27:11,934
it takes every single
kind of person.
521
00:27:12,065 --> 00:27:13,632
- [Man] After count,
we'll go again right away.
522
00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:16,112
- I've never seen a
female camera operator.
523
00:27:16,243 --> 00:27:18,549
We're touching them like,
oh my god, you really exist.
524
00:27:19,812 --> 00:27:22,684
Something's very
wrong with that.
525
00:27:22,815 --> 00:27:26,862
- I started when I was 14 and
there would be 150 men on set
526
00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:29,473
and I'd be the only woman.
527
00:27:29,604 --> 00:27:32,433
No women sometimes in wardrobe,
528
00:27:32,563 --> 00:27:34,522
in the art department,
in anything.
529
00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:37,873
- That's a lot of male energy.
530
00:27:38,004 --> 00:27:40,310
I've had directors who have said
531
00:27:40,441 --> 00:27:43,139
that I need to sit on their
laps to get direction.
532
00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:45,533
Who call me to the set and
if I won't sit on their lap,
533
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,404
I was sent back to my trailer.
534
00:27:47,535 --> 00:27:50,581
And I said, does Tom
Hanks sit on your lap?
535
00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:55,630
[light music]
536
00:27:55,761 --> 00:28:00,766
- People in power for years
have tried to divide and conquer
537
00:28:01,897 --> 00:28:04,552
actresses in order to victimize
538
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:08,034
and manipulate and abuse them.
539
00:28:13,256 --> 00:28:15,868
- To protect yourself on
set is not an easy thing
540
00:28:15,998 --> 00:28:18,087
because no one else is
gonna come to your aid,
541
00:28:18,218 --> 00:28:20,176
no one else is gonna defend you.
542
00:28:20,263 --> 00:28:22,222
There is no recourse, there's
no human resources department,
543
00:28:22,352 --> 00:28:24,006
there's nobody there.
544
00:28:24,137 --> 00:28:26,661
- Not everybody has
the safety net to say,
545
00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:28,576
hey, I can speak out
about this and know
546
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,448
that I can still get work
in the field that I love.
547
00:28:31,579 --> 00:28:34,277
- There's often a lot
of distance between us
548
00:28:34,408 --> 00:28:37,977
because we're all navigating
a very treacherous industry.
549
00:28:38,107 --> 00:28:39,935
We don't learn to
call each other
550
00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:42,851
and lean upon each other
and create community.
551
00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:49,553
- A lot of my energy is spent on
552
00:28:49,684 --> 00:28:51,642
when can I ask this question,
553
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:56,647
how am I going to ask for what
I need in order to feel safe?
554
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:01,174
- Part of sexism and racism
is like stay in your place,
555
00:29:01,304 --> 00:29:05,569
stay in your lane, shut up,
be happy with what you've got,
556
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,398
and so we're all siloed off.
557
00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:10,400
And you don't tell people
what your fears are
558
00:29:10,487 --> 00:29:12,707
because then they know where
your vulnerable spaces are.
559
00:29:16,102 --> 00:29:17,538
- What happens to
female directors
560
00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:20,149
is they walk into a
completely male environment,
561
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,890
and so they have to
make those jokes,
562
00:29:22,021 --> 00:29:23,979
and so they have to do that
[sucking air]
563
00:29:24,066 --> 00:29:25,851
little thing every morning,
which means you cannot
564
00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:29,463
truly operate from
your own perspective
565
00:29:29,593 --> 00:29:31,073
and see things through
a different lens.
566
00:29:31,204 --> 00:29:34,381
- She has to be
[sucking air]
567
00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:38,472
a gymnast and a diplomat
and somebody's mother.
568
00:29:38,602 --> 00:29:39,908
- I've seen female directors
569
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,389
treated really
badly, really badly.
570
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,522
[fire crackling]
[ominous music]
571
00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:48,612
- When I was 15, I did Carrie.
572
00:29:48,743 --> 00:29:49,918
That movie was
directed by Kim Peirce,
573
00:29:50,049 --> 00:29:52,747
who was my first
female director.
574
00:29:52,834 --> 00:29:55,794
But it was a
massively male crew.
575
00:29:57,491 --> 00:29:59,449
- I was being talked
to and treated
576
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,322
and questioned constantly
and differently.
577
00:30:04,063 --> 00:30:05,412
- The biggest part of the movie
578
00:30:05,542 --> 00:30:06,892
is when she gets her period for
the first time in the shower
579
00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:08,807
and she doesn't
know it's her period
580
00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:11,810
because she had never been
taught that from her mother.
581
00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:14,247
To have these conversations
with men who were saying,
582
00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:15,814
well, I don't think you
should depict that way,
583
00:30:15,944 --> 00:30:17,467
and I think you should
depict it this way,
584
00:30:17,598 --> 00:30:20,862
and Kim and I sitting there
going, well, respectfully,
585
00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:23,212
I don't think you know
what you're talking about.
586
00:30:25,084 --> 00:30:27,347
That was just the first
time where I was ever like,
587
00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:31,699
I guess men don't see us
women equal in this industry.
588
00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:35,442
[light music]
589
00:30:35,572 --> 00:30:36,791
- When you have a huge success
590
00:30:36,922 --> 00:30:38,619
and then your career doesn't
go where it ought to go
591
00:30:38,706 --> 00:30:40,403
and you see the
men failing upward
592
00:30:40,534 --> 00:30:41,709
and you're succeeding downward,
593
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,842
don't you think that
everyday you wake up
594
00:30:43,972 --> 00:30:46,932
and say this is my life,
maybe this isn't good enough,
595
00:30:47,019 --> 00:30:48,629
maybe I should go do something
596
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,283
where there aren't all
these obstacles against me
597
00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:52,720
because I'm a really
talented creative human being
598
00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:55,723
and I love working and you're
stopping my right to work.
599
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,551
I may not have the energy
600
00:30:57,681 --> 00:31:00,249
to do this every single
day, to fight this fight.
601
00:31:07,169 --> 00:31:11,826
- It is appalling in terms
of how much women's work
602
00:31:13,349 --> 00:31:15,569
and also women's roles
and women's films
603
00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:17,658
actually are contributing
to the box office,
604
00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:19,703
just sheerly on a
commercial level.
605
00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:23,577
[ominous music]
606
00:31:34,501 --> 00:31:38,635
- Whenever the press announces:
this changes everything,
607
00:31:38,766 --> 00:31:41,595
I'm a little skeptical.
608
00:31:43,727 --> 00:31:46,295
That was supposed to happen
after Thelma & Louise came out.
609
00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:49,951
- Things have changed,
everything's changed.
610
00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:52,040
- Thelma & Louise
you went, that's it,
611
00:31:52,171 --> 00:31:54,173
the whole industry's
gonna change.
612
00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:55,739
Oh my god, of course
we're gonna make
613
00:31:55,826 --> 00:31:57,611
all these female
empowerment films.
614
00:31:57,741 --> 00:31:59,221
- It didn't change anything.
615
00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:01,397
♪ Ba ba ba ba ♪
616
00:32:01,528 --> 00:32:03,922
- The First Wives Club beat
the biggest action movie,
617
00:32:04,009 --> 00:32:06,576
but Twilight series comes out,
or Mean Girls, or Clueless,
618
00:32:06,663 --> 00:32:08,404
- Uh, as if!
619
00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:11,668
- So you go, well of course,
this is the new paradigm.
620
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:13,627
- Even when I started directing,
621
00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:16,195
there was this sense that
it was getting better.
622
00:32:16,282 --> 00:32:18,414
- Occasionally there's a bump,
623
00:32:18,545 --> 00:32:21,504
but that's not systemic change.
624
00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:23,985
- Frozen changes everything.
625
00:32:24,116 --> 00:32:28,729
Hidden Figures, come on, it
made so much money, and nothing.
626
00:32:30,513 --> 00:32:32,689
- And then we go back,
so I don't understand it.
627
00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:35,214
- We need to look at the history
628
00:32:35,344 --> 00:32:37,956
to see what kinds of
things have continued
629
00:32:38,086 --> 00:32:41,220
and thus been perpetuated
without any thought.
630
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:44,571
- The contrast with what
it was like for women
631
00:32:44,701 --> 00:32:47,617
when movies were beginning
is extraordinary.
632
00:32:48,705 --> 00:32:51,491
[uplifting music]
633
00:32:55,930 --> 00:33:00,761
- The silent era is full of
women writing, directing,
634
00:33:00,891 --> 00:33:03,459
producing, owning
their own companies.
635
00:33:05,461 --> 00:33:08,508
Film when it was born
was not gender specific.
636
00:33:10,292 --> 00:33:13,165
- They really promote the
industry as a business
637
00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:16,951
that's really wide open to
ambitious pioneering women.
638
00:33:18,387 --> 00:33:22,000
There were more
women directing films
639
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:23,566
then is still the case.
640
00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,050
- Lois Weber was one of
641
00:33:29,137 --> 00:33:31,574
the three great directors
of early Hollywood.
642
00:33:33,315 --> 00:33:34,577
She was considered a peer
643
00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:38,016
of D.W. Griffith and
Cecil B. DeMille.
644
00:33:38,146 --> 00:33:42,237
By 1916, Lois Weber
is Universal's
highest paid director.
645
00:33:42,368 --> 00:33:44,457
And when she forms her own
independent production company
646
00:33:44,587 --> 00:33:47,503
in 1917, she signs a
deal with Paramount,
647
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:49,592
which is the most
lucrative in the industry.
648
00:33:51,116 --> 00:33:54,467
- The vast majority of
the writers were female,
649
00:33:54,597 --> 00:33:56,904
writing in ways that played into
650
00:33:56,991 --> 00:33:59,776
the feminist sensibility
of the period.
651
00:34:02,214 --> 00:34:04,825
Women were entering
the workforce
652
00:34:04,955 --> 00:34:06,522
in greater numbers
than every before.
653
00:34:13,138 --> 00:34:13,747
- [Woman] No!
654
00:34:15,314 --> 00:34:16,489
- [Man] Did he tell
you that he loved you?
655
00:34:16,619 --> 00:34:19,709
- [Woman] No, yes,
of course he did.
656
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,669
- I want you to tell me
exactly what happened.
657
00:34:22,799 --> 00:34:23,974
- When sound technology arrives,
658
00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:25,889
the industry is transformed.
659
00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:30,198
- You had to shoot inside.
660
00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:31,808
- [Man] Here are several
of the big stages
661
00:34:31,939 --> 00:34:33,419
to take of capacity production.
662
00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:36,030
- [Woman] You're now
going to have a system.
663
00:34:36,161 --> 00:34:40,252
- Hollywood needs financial
support to invest in technology,
664
00:34:40,382 --> 00:34:44,995
to redo theaters, so banks
invest heavily in Hollywood.
665
00:34:46,867 --> 00:34:50,262
- Now you're linking yourself
to a male moneyed hierarchy.
666
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,004
[light solemn music]
667
00:34:54,135 --> 00:34:57,834
- The studios begin controlling
the exhibition market.
668
00:34:57,965 --> 00:35:00,098
They shut out a lot of women
who had independent companies,
669
00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:01,882
African-American filmmakers,
670
00:35:02,012 --> 00:35:04,232
and they really
consolidated power.
671
00:35:06,016 --> 00:35:08,845
They stop hiring
women as directors,
672
00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:11,152
so women's voices
are no longer valued.
673
00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:14,112
[background chattering]
674
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,983
- As soon as the job
becomes really important
675
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:19,160
and moneymaking, it suddenly
becomes a man's job.
676
00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:21,031
[horn blaring]
677
00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:23,904
- The identity of
a director as male,
678
00:35:23,991 --> 00:35:25,558
or of a cinematographer as male,
679
00:35:25,688 --> 00:35:28,169
doesn't get set until the
unions really come in.
680
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:32,260
Unions fought very rigorously
to keep women members out.
681
00:35:32,391 --> 00:35:34,523
To be fair to them,
what that often meant
682
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:36,482
was lower pay, lower respect.
683
00:35:38,179 --> 00:35:42,749
- The work that so many women
did was erased for decades.
684
00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:52,237
The only woman directing
for a major studio
685
00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:54,282
in the 1930s is Dorothy Arzner.
686
00:35:59,331 --> 00:36:02,638
The Director's Guild of
America was formed in 1936.
687
00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:06,860
- The DGA was
founded by all men.
688
00:36:11,473 --> 00:36:12,431
- [Woman] And Dorothy Arzner,
689
00:36:12,561 --> 00:36:13,823
she's the only female director
690
00:36:13,954 --> 00:36:17,349
in the DGA for
well over a decade,
691
00:36:17,479 --> 00:36:19,829
until Ida Lupino
joins in the late 40s.
692
00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:25,835
[rain falling]
693
00:36:25,966 --> 00:36:30,362
- For us to accomplish gender
equity in our storytelling,
694
00:36:30,492 --> 00:36:34,148
we need to look at all of the
various systemic mechanisms
695
00:36:34,279 --> 00:36:35,845
that have been
holding women back.
696
00:36:39,153 --> 00:36:41,286
I started to do a
great deal of research
697
00:36:41,416 --> 00:36:46,073
into the history of workplace
discrimination in Hollywood.
698
00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:49,903
- Hollywood has
never had a mechanism
699
00:36:50,033 --> 00:36:53,646
to regulate discrimination,
and Hollywood has actually
700
00:36:53,776 --> 00:36:57,954
always tried to maintain
self regulation.
701
00:36:58,085 --> 00:37:01,044
- That really does open the door
702
00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:02,698
for all kinds of discrimination.
703
00:37:08,574 --> 00:37:11,533
- The Civil Rights Act
of '64 had many parts.
704
00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:15,015
The part that I was most
involved with was Title VII.
705
00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:17,713
[dramatic music]
706
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,372
That is the title that created
707
00:37:24,503 --> 00:37:26,461
the Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission.
708
00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:35,731
The EEOC was created to look
out for the rights of people
709
00:37:36,732 --> 00:37:38,386
in the field of employment.
710
00:37:41,389 --> 00:37:46,002
In 1969, we would send our
investigators into the studios.
711
00:37:49,571 --> 00:37:53,009
We found a pattern of
practice of discrimination.
712
00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:59,015
We referred to the
Justice Department
713
00:37:59,102 --> 00:38:01,191
to do an investigation.
714
00:38:01,322 --> 00:38:03,324
Congress didn't
take kindly to it.
715
00:38:03,455 --> 00:38:05,108
- We've gotten to the point now
716
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,417
where either this punitive
harassment is gonna stop
717
00:38:09,548 --> 00:38:12,725
or I'm going to the
highest authority
718
00:38:12,855 --> 00:38:16,816
in this government to
get somebody fired.
719
00:38:16,903 --> 00:38:20,907
- The Nixon administration
was ready to put the ax to me.
720
00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:24,258
I beat them by resigning.
721
00:38:26,478 --> 00:38:30,786
Nixon got his way, he got
this loudmouth black boy out.
722
00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:36,705
The whole issue of
discrimination against women
723
00:38:36,836 --> 00:38:40,535
was hurt by the permissiveness
of federal government
724
00:38:40,622 --> 00:38:42,407
allowing the movie industry
725
00:38:42,494 --> 00:38:44,496
to do what that hell
it wanted to do.
726
00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:53,418
- There's a direct connection
727
00:38:53,548 --> 00:38:55,594
between the number of
women behind the scenes
728
00:38:55,724 --> 00:38:57,247
and the number of people
of color behind the scenes,
729
00:38:57,378 --> 00:39:00,773
and how that translates
into gender and race biases
730
00:39:00,860 --> 00:39:02,992
on the big screen
and little screen.
731
00:39:03,123 --> 00:39:06,779
- We're sending
really wrong messages,
732
00:39:06,909 --> 00:39:09,782
not only to girls,
but to boys as well.
733
00:39:14,177 --> 00:39:16,571
- [Man] That was beautiful!
734
00:39:16,658 --> 00:39:19,313
[puppets chattering]
735
00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:20,401
- [Geena] When my
daughter was about two,
736
00:39:20,532 --> 00:39:22,882
I started watching little
kid stuff with her.
737
00:39:22,969 --> 00:39:24,710
- See, I'm thinking of
becoming a doctor, Burt.
738
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,189
- Really?
- Mm-hm.
739
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,063
- I immediately noticed there
were far fewer characters
740
00:39:30,193 --> 00:39:31,978
that were female than male.
741
00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:32,979
- Really?
742
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:33,980
- I was stunned.
743
00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:35,024
[screaming]
744
00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,287
- What are you shrieking about?
745
00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,639
- [Smurf] Whoa, take it down
a notch, my blues brothers.
746
00:39:40,726 --> 00:39:45,383
- I realized girls are being
seriously shortchanged.
747
00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:47,689
They're not doing half of
748
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:49,778
the interesting or
important things.
749
00:39:49,909 --> 00:39:51,127
- May I get you
absolutely anything
750
00:39:51,258 --> 00:39:52,825
in the world you
could possibly want?
751
00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:54,087
- [Geena] They don't
have occupations.
752
00:39:54,217 --> 00:39:56,437
- He loves me, I knew it!
753
00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:58,874
- Or, they're not there at all.
754
00:40:01,224 --> 00:40:06,186
We're saying that they are less
valuable than men and boys.
755
00:40:06,316 --> 00:40:09,058
- Why hello, ladies,
you ready to lose?
756
00:40:09,189 --> 00:40:11,974
- You pillow fight like
a bunch of little girls.
757
00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:15,456
- [Geena] We're teaching
them that girls and women
758
00:40:15,543 --> 00:40:18,372
don't take up half of
the space in the world.
759
00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:21,027
We're teaching boys that
girls are less important.
760
00:40:21,157 --> 00:40:21,897
- You wouldn't hit a woman.
761
00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:23,290
- That's a woman?
762
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,074
- To see girls as
second class citizens.
763
00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:27,468
[screaming]
764
00:40:29,383 --> 00:40:31,429
We're like, oh, how come
Congress isn't half women?
765
00:40:32,517 --> 00:40:33,866
CEOs and all this,
766
00:40:33,996 --> 00:40:35,998
how are we gonna get
more women on boards?
767
00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:41,830
Progress for women stalls
out between like 15 and 20%
768
00:40:42,918 --> 00:40:44,224
in so many different sectors.
769
00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:46,705
Could it be that
we're training people
770
00:40:46,792 --> 00:40:53,451
to see groups of people with
only 17% women as normal?
771
00:41:01,067 --> 00:41:04,070
Whenever I had a meeting
in Hollywood, I'd say,
772
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,507
have you ever noticed
how few female characters
773
00:41:06,638 --> 00:41:08,901
there are in movies
made for kids?
774
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:13,253
Every single person
said, oh, no, no, no,
775
00:41:13,383 --> 00:41:16,561
that's not true anymore,
that's been fixed.
776
00:41:16,648 --> 00:41:20,173
Nobody I talked to was seeing
the problem that I was seeing.
777
00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:21,827
So that's when I decided,
778
00:41:21,957 --> 00:41:25,483
if I'm gonna change
this, I need the data.
779
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:28,050
[light music]
780
00:41:39,279 --> 00:41:41,368
- Geena commissioned one
of the largest studies
781
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:44,502
on children's media
that had ever been done.
782
00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:48,854
- It took two years.
783
00:41:50,551 --> 00:41:54,512
- It was the first
study of its kind.
784
00:41:54,642 --> 00:41:58,341
- It's amazing that she
went and did that homework
785
00:41:58,472 --> 00:41:59,952
and then served it all up,
786
00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:01,780
and then it's
irrefutable evidence.
787
00:42:16,142 --> 00:42:19,449
- The data driven case of
this has really take away
788
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:21,582
that question of
is there a problem?
789
00:42:21,713 --> 00:42:24,846
- You can't say, she's
just being hysterical,
790
00:42:24,977 --> 00:42:27,545
or god, she's just a
bitch whining about this,
791
00:42:27,675 --> 00:42:29,198
if you have numbers.
792
00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:35,335
- [Geena] My scheme was to go
793
00:42:35,422 --> 00:42:38,556
to the people
creating the media.
794
00:42:38,686 --> 00:42:40,166
I had no idea how
they were gonna react.
795
00:42:41,776 --> 00:42:43,169
- She came when I was
an executive at Disney
796
00:42:43,299 --> 00:42:45,388
and said in something
like Finding Nemo,
797
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,304
they're all fish but
most of them are men.
798
00:42:48,435 --> 00:42:49,218
- He looks funny.
[slapping effect]
799
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:50,263
Ow!
800
00:42:50,393 --> 00:42:51,699
- It was a huge eye opener
801
00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,962
and nobody had
pointed it out before.
802
00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:57,313
The work that she's done has
had an enormous impact on me.
803
00:43:00,273 --> 00:43:02,492
- Without further
ado, please welcome
804
00:43:02,623 --> 00:43:04,582
our commander in
chief, Geena Davis.
805
00:43:04,712 --> 00:43:06,192
[audience applauding]
806
00:43:06,322 --> 00:43:08,150
- There's one area of inequality
807
00:43:08,237 --> 00:43:11,893
that can be changed overnight,
and that's on screen.
808
00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:17,464
Data turns out to be the
magic bullet in this case
809
00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:21,468
because the bias is unconscious.
810
00:43:22,861 --> 00:43:25,428
- The first time that
I saw the numbers,
811
00:43:25,515 --> 00:43:26,995
I have to say they
were shocking,
812
00:43:27,126 --> 00:43:31,478
and I'm someone who knows that
we're not doing a great job.
813
00:43:33,393 --> 00:43:36,744
Being passive on this issue
is not good enough anymore.
814
00:43:38,354 --> 00:43:41,444
At the script stage,
I go through and look,
815
00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:43,533
do I now have enough women?
816
00:43:43,664 --> 00:43:45,666
You have to actively
get to the place
817
00:43:45,797 --> 00:43:48,582
where you put that as
a part of your system.
818
00:43:48,713 --> 00:43:50,671
- You have to instill
the writing team,
819
00:43:50,758 --> 00:43:54,501
the producers, everybody,
with an awareness of it.
820
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:57,896
- The ratio of male to
female characters in film
821
00:43:58,026 --> 00:44:02,683
has been exactly
the same since 1946.
822
00:44:04,163 --> 00:44:06,905
We cannot wait around
for change to happen
823
00:44:06,992 --> 00:44:09,429
when all the evidence shows us
824
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,867
that we're going nowhere slowly.
825
00:44:14,564 --> 00:44:17,002
[light music]
826
00:44:18,568 --> 00:44:21,397
We thought if we
could invent software
827
00:44:21,528 --> 00:44:23,356
that could do the
research for us,
828
00:44:23,486 --> 00:44:24,749
it would be a huge benefit.
829
00:44:28,404 --> 00:44:30,755
- Geena Davis came to
Google with a proposal
830
00:44:30,885 --> 00:44:33,758
to automate this
kind of analysis.
831
00:44:33,888 --> 00:44:36,586
- One of our first
goals was to discern
832
00:44:36,717 --> 00:44:38,632
screen and speaking time
833
00:44:38,763 --> 00:44:42,375
almost humanly impossible
with the naked eye.
834
00:44:42,462 --> 00:44:45,073
- If you see a green box,
it means it's figuring out
835
00:44:45,204 --> 00:44:48,511
not only there's a face
there, but it's a female.
836
00:44:48,642 --> 00:44:51,558
- We can actually quantify
the amount of screen time,
837
00:44:51,645 --> 00:44:54,430
the amount of speaking time
and get data at that level.
838
00:44:54,517 --> 00:44:57,216
- It takes maybe a minute
to process one film.
839
00:44:57,346 --> 00:44:58,478
- I'm gonna share with you
840
00:44:58,608 --> 00:45:01,307
just quick slides
of what we found.
841
00:45:01,437 --> 00:45:03,831
[ominous music]
842
00:45:12,666 --> 00:45:17,323
- We have to be incredibly
proactive and we have to realize
843
00:45:17,453 --> 00:45:19,455
this is not happening
naturally on its own.
844
00:45:26,985 --> 00:45:29,030
- I read a lot about
Geena Davis Institute
845
00:45:29,117 --> 00:45:30,989
and finding out all the data
846
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,471
regarding how bad the gender
equality is in Hollywood.
847
00:45:35,602 --> 00:45:38,257
I was shocked and I
also really wanted
848
00:45:38,387 --> 00:45:41,086
to do something to change it.
849
00:45:42,696 --> 00:45:44,219
We've been building up
850
00:45:44,350 --> 00:45:47,788
this amazing art house
cinema in Stockholm together.
851
00:45:47,919 --> 00:45:50,530
We found out about the
Bechdel-Wallace test.
852
00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:54,577
[speaking in a foreign language]
853
00:45:58,799 --> 00:46:00,627
- It's a very simple
test to figure out
854
00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:02,716
how women are treated on screen.
855
00:46:02,847 --> 00:46:05,371
You need two named
characters who are women.
856
00:46:05,501 --> 00:46:07,242
They need to have
a conversation,
857
00:46:07,373 --> 00:46:08,722
and that conversation
needs to be
858
00:46:08,809 --> 00:46:10,550
about something
that is not a man.
859
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,554
[speaking in a foreign language]
860
00:46:15,729 --> 00:46:17,818
- I just came back to my cinema
861
00:46:17,949 --> 00:46:20,386
and checked out how
many of the films
862
00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:22,518
that I do program that pass it.
863
00:46:22,649 --> 00:46:25,260
Where we did it, no film passed.
864
00:46:25,391 --> 00:46:28,611
And I was so embarrassed
because we have this feeling
865
00:46:28,742 --> 00:46:29,525
that you're actually
good in something,
866
00:46:29,612 --> 00:46:30,788
but then you,
[grunting]
867
00:46:30,918 --> 00:46:31,832
you're not.
868
00:46:31,963 --> 00:46:33,791
[door dinging]
869
00:46:33,921 --> 00:46:38,578
We decided after one year
of research to do a logo
870
00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:41,668
of the Bechdel-Wallace test.
871
00:46:41,755 --> 00:46:44,802
A simple logo with
an A saying approved.
872
00:46:46,847 --> 00:46:49,284
- I look for pleasure
in the details.
873
00:46:49,415 --> 00:46:50,808
[bell dinging]
874
00:46:50,938 --> 00:46:52,810
- He's sweet, isn't he?
[buzzer sounding]
875
00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:54,289
- Hey!
- Zip it, Sinead.
876
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:55,769
[buzzer sounding]
877
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:57,292
- The point of the
Bechdel test for me,
878
00:46:57,423 --> 00:46:58,772
was always that it was a joke.
879
00:46:58,903 --> 00:47:02,080
But if you actually investigate,
you'll find that it's true.
880
00:47:02,210 --> 00:47:03,821
- Half the movies fail it.
881
00:47:05,823 --> 00:47:07,825
It's films that are still
coming out to this day.
882
00:47:09,174 --> 00:47:10,871
American Hustle, passed.
[bell dinging]
883
00:47:10,958 --> 00:47:13,743
There's one conversation
that's about nail polish.
884
00:47:13,874 --> 00:47:15,745
- The top coat,
it's like perfumey,
885
00:47:15,876 --> 00:47:18,009
but there's also
something rotten.
886
00:47:18,139 --> 00:47:19,837
- It's not perfect.
887
00:47:19,967 --> 00:47:21,360
- My name is Shelly and I'm
here to be your house mother.
888
00:47:21,490 --> 00:47:23,536
[bell dinging]
889
00:47:23,666 --> 00:47:26,800
[camera shuttering]
890
00:47:26,931 --> 00:47:29,847
- One week after
we launched A Rate,
891
00:47:29,934 --> 00:47:34,634
I had 80 interviews
from the whole world.
892
00:47:36,375 --> 00:47:39,508
[light dramatic music]
893
00:47:44,165 --> 00:47:46,733
Even though I was so unprepared,
894
00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:49,562
I of course felt like
I need to do this.
895
00:47:50,955 --> 00:47:52,957
So this is what Geena
Davis is saying,
896
00:47:53,087 --> 00:47:56,743
if she can see
it, she can be it.
897
00:47:56,830 --> 00:47:59,920
Girls and boys, until
they are five years old,
898
00:48:00,051 --> 00:48:01,879
have the same kind of idea
899
00:48:02,009 --> 00:48:04,664
what they will like to
do when they grow up.
900
00:48:04,794 --> 00:48:07,623
After five years old,
it changed radically,
901
00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:10,626
and the reason is film and TV.
902
00:48:21,942 --> 00:48:24,031
[blowing]
903
00:48:25,815 --> 00:48:26,816
- Isn't he amazing?
904
00:48:36,217 --> 00:48:36,914
- Ah ha!
905
00:48:41,788 --> 00:48:43,746
- There was a study that showed
906
00:48:43,877 --> 00:48:46,140
now girls as young
as six years old
907
00:48:46,271 --> 00:48:48,882
have learned to self sexualize.
908
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:52,842
- [Woman] This is Paisley as
Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman.
909
00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:57,760
- To view themselves through
the male gaze at six years old.
910
00:48:57,891 --> 00:49:01,547
- These are wet, could
you blow on them for me?
911
00:49:01,677 --> 00:49:03,679
[stammering]
912
00:49:03,766 --> 00:49:05,725
- I think that
entertainment culture's
913
00:49:05,855 --> 00:49:07,945
promotion of the objectification
of girls and women
914
00:49:08,075 --> 00:49:10,730
literally leads women
to hate their bodies.
915
00:49:13,428 --> 00:49:15,778
- When I was 16, I
show up to my trailer
916
00:49:15,909 --> 00:49:18,216
for the first day of
set, I'm getting dressed
917
00:49:18,346 --> 00:49:19,957
and I see my bra
there and I'm like,
918
00:49:20,044 --> 00:49:21,828
oh, that's weird,
it's a pushup bra.
919
00:49:21,915 --> 00:49:24,048
In front of the pushup bra,
I saw two chicken cutlets.
920
00:49:26,876 --> 00:49:30,097
I had never seen a chicken
cutlet, I was a kid.
921
00:49:30,228 --> 00:49:32,839
And I asked the wardrobe
girl and she's like,
922
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:35,755
oh, yeah, I was told to
put these in your trailer.
923
00:49:35,885 --> 00:49:37,844
One of the producers comes in
924
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:40,194
and I immediately was
like, why is that here?
925
00:49:40,281 --> 00:49:44,111
He or she looked at me and
said, it was a studio note.
926
00:49:47,158 --> 00:49:48,986
You're telling me
that a group of people
927
00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:52,990
looked at a 16 year old
girl in the screen tests
928
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,210
and they said her breasts
didn't look big enough?
929
00:49:59,126 --> 00:50:01,172
It was the first time
I really felt insecure.
930
00:50:01,302 --> 00:50:02,695
I looked at myself in the
mirror and I was like,
931
00:50:02,825 --> 00:50:05,915
well, is it not right?
932
00:50:06,046 --> 00:50:07,308
That's when I
started to realize,
933
00:50:07,439 --> 00:50:11,834
oh, I'm not just an actor,
I'm viewed as an actress.
934
00:50:14,489 --> 00:50:17,710
[background chattering]
935
00:50:18,928 --> 00:50:21,714
[reflective music]
936
00:50:29,417 --> 00:50:34,292
- A big part of why I
wanted to change Hollywood
937
00:50:34,422 --> 00:50:38,861
was because if my little girl
dreamed of being a storyteller
938
00:50:38,992 --> 00:50:43,605
in this world, I did not
want the circumstances
939
00:50:45,259 --> 00:50:48,175
that kept me from being
able to achieve success
940
00:50:48,306 --> 00:50:50,786
to keep her from being
able to achieve success.
941
00:50:52,745 --> 00:50:53,920
That was not okay with me.
942
00:50:56,314 --> 00:50:58,533
What I really wanted
to do was make sure
943
00:50:58,664 --> 00:51:00,883
that all girls didn't
have to face that.
944
00:51:01,884 --> 00:51:04,757
[traffic passing]
945
00:51:10,632 --> 00:51:13,983
- It's one thing to say
out loud, I want parity,
946
00:51:14,071 --> 00:51:17,422
it's another thing to
then figure out day to day
947
00:51:17,552 --> 00:51:20,860
what the costs of that are,
what that actually means.
948
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:25,430
- Just by doing you
will achieve something
949
00:51:25,517 --> 00:51:27,258
that will push the limit,
950
00:51:27,388 --> 00:51:29,782
but be prepared that that's
what you're starting.
951
00:51:33,655 --> 00:51:36,136
- I joined the
Director's Guild in 1999.
952
00:51:40,793 --> 00:51:43,230
I was called to
an events meeting
953
00:51:43,361 --> 00:51:44,971
for the Women's
Steering Committee
954
00:51:46,494 --> 00:51:47,800
and it was in those meetings
955
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:50,672
that I discovered
it wasn't just me.
956
00:51:53,588 --> 00:51:56,504
Melanie Wagor had this
great idea for a summit
957
00:51:56,635 --> 00:51:58,811
to try to figure out
how to get more work
958
00:51:58,941 --> 00:52:00,943
for women DGA members.
959
00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:02,728
She said, well, we've been
trying to get it going
960
00:52:02,858 --> 00:52:05,731
for two years, it was
not getting approved.
961
00:52:05,818 --> 00:52:08,081
- That is a tiny little example
962
00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:12,259
of how obstructionist
our own guild was
963
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:14,914
in terms of us just trying
to organize ourselves.
964
00:52:15,044 --> 00:52:16,829
- It wasn't an officially
sanctioned thing.
965
00:52:16,916 --> 00:52:19,484
We had to fight really
hard to have it.
966
00:52:19,571 --> 00:52:21,007
It was a way of shining a light
967
00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:23,140
and putting a mirror to them,
968
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:26,012
and I don't think they
wanted to see what was there.
969
00:52:29,058 --> 00:52:31,104
- I was invited
to sit on a panel,
970
00:52:31,235 --> 00:52:33,193
and here were these
powerful women.
971
00:52:33,324 --> 00:52:37,980
I was surprised at how
powerless they felt.
972
00:52:41,158 --> 00:52:45,814
- Our purpose as organizers
was also to create a list
973
00:52:47,686 --> 00:52:48,904
of women director members
of the Director's Guild.
974
00:52:50,645 --> 00:52:52,256
At the end of the afternoon,
975
00:52:52,343 --> 00:52:55,781
an executive at the DGA said,
could I please take your list
976
00:52:55,868 --> 00:52:57,913
and bring it
upstairs and copy it?
977
00:53:00,089 --> 00:53:01,743
We never got it back.
978
00:53:01,874 --> 00:53:05,051
They said, we've determined
that this is our property.
979
00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:08,663
That's unconscionable, that's
gagging, that's red flagging.
980
00:53:10,622 --> 00:53:13,233
[traffic passing]
981
00:53:17,063 --> 00:53:19,370
- Instinctively I
knew that something
982
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:23,025
was fundamentally really
wrong on a legal level,
983
00:53:23,156 --> 00:53:26,333
not just on a
moral/ethical level.
984
00:53:28,727 --> 00:53:30,642
And then somebody
mentioned to me
985
00:53:30,729 --> 00:53:35,124
that there had already been
a legal action in the 1980s
986
00:53:36,909 --> 00:53:38,867
by a group of six
female directors.
987
00:53:40,304 --> 00:53:43,220
[light upbeat music]
988
00:53:46,875 --> 00:53:49,791
- The first time the six
women of the DGA got together
989
00:53:49,878 --> 00:53:53,708
was in '78 and '79, and
was actually an event
990
00:53:53,839 --> 00:53:57,277
run by, I think, my
memory says Women In Film.
991
00:53:57,408 --> 00:53:59,410
- Hi, nice to meet
you, what do you do?
992
00:54:00,715 --> 00:54:01,890
[chuckling]
I'm an out of work director.
993
00:54:01,977 --> 00:54:03,283
- It was really a
tough conversation,
994
00:54:03,414 --> 00:54:05,503
'cause in the
entertainment industry,
995
00:54:05,633 --> 00:54:08,767
the last thing you wanna
do is say, I'm not working.
996
00:54:08,897 --> 00:54:10,421
- Are you working?
No.
997
00:54:10,551 --> 00:54:11,465
Are you working?
No.
998
00:54:11,596 --> 00:54:12,814
- None of us were working.
999
00:54:12,901 --> 00:54:15,600
- It was preposterous,
It was preposterous.
1000
00:54:15,730 --> 00:54:17,471
- These were accomplished women.
1001
00:54:18,603 --> 00:54:20,866
- We had one Oscar, a Fulbright,
1002
00:54:20,996 --> 00:54:24,261
two AFI Filmmaker
Grants, two Emmys,
1003
00:54:24,391 --> 00:54:28,613
and what we figured out we
really needed was a penis.
1004
00:54:28,743 --> 00:54:31,877
- I remember getting up and
saying we are all doomed
1005
00:54:32,007 --> 00:54:34,967
to stunted careers if
we don't do something.
1006
00:54:36,229 --> 00:54:37,143
[light music]
1007
00:54:37,274 --> 00:54:39,580
- We needed to find out why.
1008
00:54:39,711 --> 00:54:42,148
One of the amazing
resources we had was
1009
00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:45,717
the Academy of Motion Pictures
Arts and Sciences Library.
1010
00:54:45,804 --> 00:54:50,417
Nell Cox and I were there
weeks on end pulling magazines.
1011
00:54:51,897 --> 00:54:55,030
We studied a period
between 1949 and 1979
1012
00:54:56,771 --> 00:54:58,556
with little pencil
and paper chit sheets,
1013
00:55:00,688 --> 00:55:03,038
looking for the number
of films per year
1014
00:55:03,169 --> 00:55:05,780
and looking for women's names.
1015
00:55:05,911 --> 00:55:08,653
- We started going
back into DGA records,
1016
00:55:08,783 --> 00:55:11,656
which they were
reluctant to fork over.
1017
00:55:13,005 --> 00:55:17,009
- We met almost every
Saturday for a year.
1018
00:55:20,882 --> 00:55:25,278
We worked very, very hard
at covering all the bases.
1019
00:55:27,411 --> 00:55:30,849
- What we came up with was
this astonishing statistic
1020
00:55:30,979 --> 00:55:35,636
that between 1949 and 1979,
one half of one percent
1021
00:55:36,855 --> 00:55:40,815
of all assignments
went to women.
1022
00:55:40,946 --> 00:55:43,470
It's like, do you have
a plate of cookies?
1023
00:55:44,906 --> 00:55:46,821
There were 100
cookies on the plate,
1024
00:55:46,952 --> 00:55:50,695
all the guys come and
they take 99.5 cookies.
1025
00:55:52,610 --> 00:55:54,089
[cookie snapping]
1026
00:55:54,176 --> 00:55:57,005
And all the women
directors in the guild
1027
00:55:57,136 --> 00:56:00,705
have to fight over that
one half of a cookie.
1028
00:56:00,835 --> 00:56:03,795
- We've all had our eyes opened,
1029
00:56:03,925 --> 00:56:07,364
and once opened, you
realize how shut they were.
1030
00:56:08,887 --> 00:56:10,802
- We went to the
Director's Guild
1031
00:56:10,932 --> 00:56:13,674
to try to get them to
do something about it.
1032
00:56:13,805 --> 00:56:16,373
[somber music]
1033
00:56:20,464 --> 00:56:22,944
- Did the men understand
there was discrimination
1034
00:56:23,075 --> 00:56:25,207
in the entertainment industry?
1035
00:56:25,338 --> 00:56:29,037
Not really, there was
a lot of resistance.
1036
00:56:29,168 --> 00:56:32,519
- All of the sudden we
were holding up a mirror
1037
00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:35,174
to husbands and fathers
and we were saying,
1038
00:56:35,261 --> 00:56:37,394
you want this for your daughter?
1039
00:56:37,524 --> 00:56:39,961
Maybe your daughters
wanna be directors.
1040
00:56:42,616 --> 00:56:44,705
- Mel Brooks was on
the national board.
1041
00:56:44,836 --> 00:56:46,664
He was the loose
cannon, you never knew
1042
00:56:46,794 --> 00:56:48,579
what Mel Brooks was
gonna come up with.
1043
00:56:48,709 --> 00:56:50,972
He got up from his seat,
that was like the first
1044
00:56:51,103 --> 00:56:53,322
uh oh, uh oh, what
is he going to do?
1045
00:56:53,453 --> 00:56:56,761
And he leaned on the
table and he said,
1046
00:56:56,891 --> 00:56:58,240
you guys are nitpicking
1047
00:56:58,371 --> 00:57:00,982
and petty fogging the
women into the shit house.
1048
00:57:01,113 --> 00:57:04,595
He started yelling, this is
their time, this is their time!
1049
00:57:04,725 --> 00:57:06,945
[light music]
1050
00:57:10,339 --> 00:57:13,168
- The Director's
Guild chose to have
1051
00:57:13,299 --> 00:57:16,650
voluntary cooperation,
voluntary compliance.
1052
00:57:23,483 --> 00:57:25,833
Things like learn to be a
better director classes,
1053
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,925
coaching, oh, and to observe
the director at a show.
1054
00:57:31,056 --> 00:57:32,361
I can't tell you how many of
our women director members
1055
00:57:32,492 --> 00:57:35,974
observed, observed,
observed, observed, observed.
1056
00:57:40,369 --> 00:57:41,893
By the time all this
voluntary compliance
1057
00:57:42,023 --> 00:57:44,243
was another year,
a year and a half.
1058
00:57:44,373 --> 00:57:48,421
By then we had the proof that
it was just smoke and mirrors.
1059
00:57:49,988 --> 00:57:51,816
Executive director Mike Franklin
1060
00:57:51,946 --> 00:57:55,036
called a big giant
meeting to review
1061
00:57:55,167 --> 00:57:59,214
and he invited all the same
people, and nobody showed up.
1062
00:58:01,521 --> 00:58:04,219
Nobody from the
studios, networks,
1063
00:58:04,350 --> 00:58:06,526
production companies
came at all.
1064
00:58:06,657 --> 00:58:10,182
This was the first time
those men were ever treated
1065
00:58:10,312 --> 00:58:12,053
with a slap in the face, they
were treated like a woman,
1066
00:58:12,184 --> 00:58:14,316
and it was their
first taste of it.
1067
00:58:15,709 --> 00:58:17,798
- Well, Michael
Franklin got angry
1068
00:58:19,191 --> 00:58:21,019
and he said, we're suing them.
1069
00:58:22,629 --> 00:58:27,416
[typing]
[light upbeat music]
1070
00:58:37,296 --> 00:58:39,733
- Law is very important
to making change.
1071
00:58:39,864 --> 00:58:41,692
You can't change
hearts and minds,
1072
00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:43,563
but there can be consequences.
1073
00:58:43,694 --> 00:58:46,566
And laws establish
consequences for behavior,
1074
00:58:46,697 --> 00:58:48,089
and I think that's
very important.
1075
00:58:51,310 --> 00:58:55,444
- There has never been any
union that filed a lawsuit
1076
00:58:55,575 --> 00:58:58,143
against any studio, any network,
1077
00:58:58,273 --> 00:59:01,799
about an issue such as
equal hiring equity.
1078
00:59:01,929 --> 00:59:03,322
- We came to the conclusion
1079
00:59:03,452 --> 00:59:05,759
that voluntary compliance
was ridiculous.
1080
00:59:05,890 --> 00:59:08,283
People are not
gonna take jobs away
1081
00:59:08,414 --> 00:59:11,156
from people they've hired.
1082
00:59:11,243 --> 00:59:13,462
- Title seven is
the law of the land.
1083
00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:18,119
But unless there are specific
mandates, compliance is fluid.
1084
00:59:21,732 --> 00:59:23,560
- We were assigned
to the federal court
1085
00:59:23,690 --> 00:59:25,649
of Judge Pamela Rymer.
1086
00:59:25,779 --> 00:59:28,739
We thought, oh,
well, a woman judge,
1087
00:59:28,869 --> 00:59:31,480
maybe she'll understand what
it's like to be shut out.
1088
00:59:34,266 --> 00:59:35,441
She threw the case out.
1089
00:59:41,752 --> 00:59:44,102
- It's like the wind
is knocked out of you.
1090
00:59:47,496 --> 00:59:51,109
She said the guild was
not a proper litigant
1091
00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:54,808
because members of the guild
discriminate themselves.
1092
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,421
Directors discriminate
when they don't hire women
1093
00:59:59,552 --> 01:00:01,380
and minority
assistant directors.
1094
01:00:01,510 --> 01:00:03,034
Assistant directors discriminate
1095
01:00:03,164 --> 01:00:05,950
when they don't hire
second assistant directors
1096
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,300
who are women and minorities.
1097
01:00:08,430 --> 01:00:12,434
It was a legitimate turn down,
we weren't prepared for it
1098
01:00:12,565 --> 01:00:13,610
and I was surprised by that.
1099
01:00:15,350 --> 01:00:17,788
[somber music]
1100
01:00:17,918 --> 01:00:19,746
- [Woman] I discovered this
community four years ago
1101
01:00:19,833 --> 01:00:21,487
when I began an
anthropological study
1102
01:00:21,618 --> 01:00:23,141
of aging in an ethnic group.
1103
01:00:24,751 --> 01:00:28,233
- [Lynne] I wanna get good
at what I care about doing,
1104
01:00:31,105 --> 01:00:34,326
and that's what we've
been deprived of.
1105
01:00:34,456 --> 01:00:38,504
- And the award goes to Number
Our Days, Lynne Littman.
1106
01:00:38,591 --> 01:00:41,899
[audience applauding]
1107
01:00:42,029 --> 01:00:46,164
- Misogyny is an
invisible sport.
1108
01:00:52,213 --> 01:00:54,825
It prevented us from
creating careers.
1109
01:00:54,955 --> 01:00:59,264
It prevented us from
creating bodies of work.
1110
01:01:07,446 --> 01:01:09,013
- [Woman] If we
had won the case,
1111
01:01:09,143 --> 01:01:11,015
it would have been a mandate.
1112
01:01:11,145 --> 01:01:13,582
You have to hire a
certain number of women
1113
01:01:13,713 --> 01:01:15,541
or you're breaking federal law.
1114
01:01:18,544 --> 01:01:20,633
The film industry
dodged a bullet.
1115
01:01:23,114 --> 01:01:24,115
They got away with it.
1116
01:01:27,945 --> 01:01:30,164
- It was a terrible loss,
1117
01:01:30,295 --> 01:01:33,341
so much effort by
these women directors,
1118
01:01:33,472 --> 01:01:37,737
but you really saw an
incredibly radical shift
1119
01:01:37,868 --> 01:01:40,261
among female director
hires in Hollywood
1120
01:01:40,392 --> 01:01:42,524
because of a legal action.
1121
01:01:44,570 --> 01:01:49,140
In the following 10 years, the
numbers skyrocketed to 16%.
1122
01:01:50,663 --> 01:01:54,493
- But then, after
1995, no more progress.
1123
01:01:55,712 --> 01:01:57,322
- For the next 20 years, the
number of women directors
1124
01:01:57,452 --> 01:01:59,803
was going to go in decline,
1125
01:01:59,933 --> 01:02:01,935
and women of color, off the map.
1126
01:02:04,677 --> 01:02:06,331
I realized that we
were not gonna be able
1127
01:02:06,418 --> 01:02:08,986
to solve this
problem from within.
1128
01:02:09,116 --> 01:02:13,860
We had to get this out of
the DGA and into the world.
1129
01:02:13,991 --> 01:02:15,427
[keyboard clicking]
1130
01:02:15,557 --> 01:02:17,559
The most obvious solution
that we could come up with
1131
01:02:17,646 --> 01:02:19,344
was to take this to the ACLU.
1132
01:02:20,693 --> 01:02:23,827
[somber music]
1133
01:02:23,914 --> 01:02:26,568
- The American Civil
Liberties Union
1134
01:02:26,699 --> 01:02:28,614
works to protect people's
constitutional rights
1135
01:02:28,701 --> 01:02:30,572
and defend the Bill of Rights
1136
01:02:30,703 --> 01:02:34,011
that's guaranteed to everyone
in the United States.
1137
01:02:34,141 --> 01:02:36,709
- Watchdog groups like the ACLU,
1138
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,453
all they're asking is
that the law be respected.
1139
01:02:42,933 --> 01:02:43,760
We don't so much need
to change the laws
1140
01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:45,457
as enforce the laws.
1141
01:02:47,981 --> 01:02:51,115
- [Maria] My friends
were reluctant
1142
01:02:51,245 --> 01:02:56,033
to go outside the industry,
they were worried.
1143
01:02:56,163 --> 01:02:58,687
- The film business is
a who you know business.
1144
01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:00,733
You cannot go out there
and start yelling,
1145
01:03:00,864 --> 01:03:02,343
because you'll never
get hired again.
1146
01:03:06,739 --> 01:03:08,610
- Maria Giese is very brave.
1147
01:03:08,741 --> 01:03:11,744
She's on the frontline
takin' the hits
1148
01:03:11,875 --> 01:03:13,615
and not making a lot
of friends, I suppose.
1149
01:03:15,182 --> 01:03:17,358
- [Maria] The whole
thing is about fear,
1150
01:03:17,489 --> 01:03:20,448
and the one thing you cannot do
1151
01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:24,801
if you're trying to make
change is respond to fear.
1152
01:03:24,931 --> 01:03:29,501
- She has the passion and
the energy that I remember.
1153
01:03:32,634 --> 01:03:34,811
- I was full-time on this.
1154
01:03:34,941 --> 01:03:39,467
For me to be able to get the
point across to the ACLU,
1155
01:03:39,598 --> 01:03:42,122
it was essential to
be able to define this
1156
01:03:42,253 --> 01:03:44,342
as a national problem,
a global problem,
1157
01:03:44,472 --> 01:03:46,083
a civil rights problem.
1158
01:03:48,694 --> 01:03:52,698
Hollywood is our
storytelling machine.
1159
01:03:52,785 --> 01:03:55,353
- I've been appointed
to defend Tom Robinson.
1160
01:03:55,483 --> 01:03:59,792
- It creates, in large
part, our cultural narrative
1161
01:03:59,923 --> 01:04:03,535
and informs the voice of
our very civilization.
1162
01:04:03,622 --> 01:04:06,016
- These three words written
larger then the rest,
1163
01:04:06,146 --> 01:04:10,107
we the people, they
must apply to everyone,
1164
01:04:10,237 --> 01:04:12,761
[whip cracking]
or they mean nothing.
1165
01:04:12,892 --> 01:04:14,807
- [Maria] We
American people rely
1166
01:04:14,894 --> 01:04:18,811
on our entertainment
industry largely
1167
01:04:18,942 --> 01:04:21,901
for it to communicate
our stories.
1168
01:04:22,032 --> 01:04:24,730
- All right, let's go to work.
1169
01:04:24,861 --> 01:04:28,690
- [Maria] And to
represent us to each other
1170
01:04:28,821 --> 01:04:30,997
and to the rest of the world.
1171
01:04:31,128 --> 01:04:32,477
- That's correct.
1172
01:04:32,607 --> 01:04:35,436
- And women's creative
input is not making it
1173
01:04:35,523 --> 01:04:39,788
into our nation's storytelling,
into our cultural narrative.
1174
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:49,537
- Maria reached out
to Melissa Goodman
1175
01:04:49,668 --> 01:04:52,410
because Melissa's expertise
is in gender issues.
1176
01:04:54,151 --> 01:04:57,545
- There are federal laws that
very clearly and specifically
1177
01:04:57,676 --> 01:05:00,287
prohibit sex discrimination
in employment.
1178
01:05:00,374 --> 01:05:04,509
California has their own set
of very strong and protective
1179
01:05:04,639 --> 01:05:06,903
gender discrimination
laws as well.
1180
01:05:08,817 --> 01:05:10,210
- Over the course of
the next six weeks,
1181
01:05:10,341 --> 01:05:12,952
I met in their offices
and I told my story.
1182
01:05:15,085 --> 01:05:18,610
- If there are nearly zero
members of a protected group
1183
01:05:18,697 --> 01:05:21,656
in a workplace, something
is keeping them out.
1184
01:05:21,787 --> 01:05:24,877
- I think if you were Starbucks
and 93% of your employees
1185
01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:28,794
were male, that
would be a problem.
1186
01:05:28,925 --> 01:05:32,841
- Unless it can be
justified as necessary
1187
01:05:32,972 --> 01:05:35,279
to the functioning
of these companies,
1188
01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:36,802
it's illegal under Title Seven.
1189
01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:40,458
That's the story that
I think gets us places.
1190
01:05:40,588 --> 01:05:43,461
[light somber music]
1191
01:05:45,550 --> 01:05:48,292
- We strongly believe and
the data strongly suggests
1192
01:05:48,422 --> 01:05:51,860
that bias behind the
camera in Hollywood
1193
01:05:51,991 --> 01:05:54,907
is directly related to all
the other discrimination
1194
01:05:54,994 --> 01:05:57,954
and bias that we
fight at the ACLU
1195
01:05:58,084 --> 01:06:01,044
in all other facets of
life, it's all connected.
1196
01:06:04,873 --> 01:06:06,832
- Over the next several months,
1197
01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:10,618
my colleagues gathered
stories from around 50 women.
1198
01:06:10,749 --> 01:06:13,186
- I had been in
conversation with the ACLU
1199
01:06:13,317 --> 01:06:15,972
and was letting them know
about some of my experiences.
1200
01:06:18,235 --> 01:06:20,977
- In an industry like
film and television
1201
01:06:21,064 --> 01:06:24,937
where the process for
hiring is a spiderweb,
1202
01:06:25,068 --> 01:06:28,680
all of these organizations
play a different role
1203
01:06:28,810 --> 01:06:31,204
in navigating the process
1204
01:06:31,335 --> 01:06:33,424
for making film and
making television.
1205
01:06:33,554 --> 01:06:38,255
- The networks blame
the showrunners.
1206
01:06:39,908 --> 01:06:42,215
The showrunners blame the
agencies and the studios.
1207
01:06:42,346 --> 01:06:45,697
The studios are blamin' the
showrunners and the networks.
1208
01:06:45,827 --> 01:06:48,178
So they all have a safe
zone in which they can say,
1209
01:06:48,308 --> 01:06:49,962
I'm not racist or sexist.
1210
01:06:50,093 --> 01:06:53,748
- What it results in
is a wild irrationality
1211
01:06:53,879 --> 01:06:55,968
in who gets to
make TV and movies.
1212
01:06:57,622 --> 01:07:00,190
- People would say
the biggest problem is
1213
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,454
women never make it on
agency lists to the studios.
1214
01:07:06,805 --> 01:07:08,937
- You call all the
major agencies and say
1215
01:07:09,025 --> 01:07:12,550
we need 12 directors for
this order, who do you have?
1216
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:13,768
Most of them are men.
1217
01:07:25,171 --> 01:07:27,869
- If the list that we get
are all men on the list,
1218
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,046
we are overloaded
with a lot of work,
1219
01:07:30,176 --> 01:07:32,613
and sometimes we don't
look beyond our lists.
1220
01:07:34,441 --> 01:07:38,750
- When I reached out to agencies
to send me other writers,
1221
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,926
they said, we don't have any.
1222
01:07:41,057 --> 01:07:43,711
And someone actually
said, I understand,
1223
01:07:43,842 --> 01:07:46,540
you're covering your
ass for some reason,
1224
01:07:46,671 --> 01:07:48,803
we're gonna send you
some more white men.
1225
01:07:48,934 --> 01:07:50,675
- [Man] They actually
said white men?
1226
01:07:50,805 --> 01:07:51,763
- Yes.
1227
01:07:52,981 --> 01:07:55,245
- If a woman is paid
less than a man,
1228
01:07:55,375 --> 01:07:58,335
an agent is going
to make more money
1229
01:07:58,465 --> 01:08:00,902
pushing a male writer
or a male director.
1230
01:08:01,033 --> 01:08:02,600
- Starting out as an agent,
1231
01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:05,429
I was encouraged to
spend most of my time
1232
01:08:05,516 --> 01:08:08,040
representing male clients
because it was the view
1233
01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:10,086
that male clients
made more money.
1234
01:08:10,216 --> 01:08:13,176
- If you can't get in the
door to be even on the list
1235
01:08:13,306 --> 01:08:16,222
of people considered, you're
clearly never gonna get a job.
1236
01:08:16,353 --> 01:08:18,920
[woman screaming]
1237
01:08:19,051 --> 01:08:22,359
- The movies that
we make are huge,
1238
01:08:22,446 --> 01:08:26,058
and we don't wanna have people
making these movies and fail.
1239
01:08:26,189 --> 01:08:27,755
So you wanna make
sure that they have
1240
01:08:27,842 --> 01:08:29,844
some sort of experience
to get it done.
1241
01:08:29,975 --> 01:08:31,890
- It's hard to say,
well, this woman
1242
01:08:32,020 --> 01:08:33,805
who made a five million
dollar horror movie,
1243
01:08:33,935 --> 01:08:38,636
let's give her a 150
million dollar action movie.
1244
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:41,291
Well, you have to
let people do it
1245
01:08:41,421 --> 01:08:43,989
so that they have experience
to change the pool.
1246
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,513
- None of our directors
before they came to us
1247
01:08:46,644 --> 01:08:49,299
had made a 100
million dollar movie.
1248
01:08:49,429 --> 01:08:50,735
None of our male directors.
1249
01:08:52,911 --> 01:08:55,566
[somber music]
1250
01:08:57,263 --> 01:08:59,439
- The idea that we have a
lack of qualified women,
1251
01:09:00,919 --> 01:09:02,616
all of that is bullshit.
1252
01:09:02,747 --> 01:09:05,010
We have a lack of people who
are comfortable hiring people
1253
01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:07,665
who exist outside of
their comfort zone.
1254
01:09:07,795 --> 01:09:09,188
- There's plenty of us.
1255
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:12,974
You could hire women
for every feature film
1256
01:09:13,105 --> 01:09:16,717
in this country and you would
not run out of women to hire.
1257
01:09:16,848 --> 01:09:21,157
- Our job is to help and demand
the studios and producers
1258
01:09:21,244 --> 01:09:24,029
and networks and
streamers make decisions
1259
01:09:24,116 --> 01:09:26,162
that favor gender equality.
1260
01:09:27,728 --> 01:09:29,817
- You just hire women,
it's not that hard.
1261
01:09:29,948 --> 01:09:32,646
It's not that hard, I have
not had a hard time doing it,
1262
01:09:32,777 --> 01:09:34,953
so I don't understand
why that's difficult.
1263
01:09:35,083 --> 01:09:37,303
[light music]
1264
01:09:43,004 --> 01:09:44,136
- We came to the conclusion
1265
01:09:44,267 --> 01:09:46,530
that it was a really
serious civil rights problem
1266
01:09:46,660 --> 01:09:49,794
that deserved the
attention of the EEOC,
1267
01:09:52,797 --> 01:09:56,061
which is the agency tasked
with enforcing Title Seven.
1268
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,281
- When I saw that
letter, I was shocked.
1269
01:09:58,411 --> 01:10:02,241
It was like, wow,
that's incredible.
1270
01:10:02,372 --> 01:10:04,939
[somber music]
1271
01:10:13,687 --> 01:10:17,996
- On October 6th, I received
one of the first letters
1272
01:10:18,126 --> 01:10:22,783
from the EEOC asking
to interview me.
1273
01:10:24,132 --> 01:10:26,222
This meant the
investigation was on.
1274
01:10:30,356 --> 01:10:33,577
- The EEOC says they're
gonna investigate Hollywood.
1275
01:10:33,707 --> 01:10:36,144
This is a massive
accomplishment for us.
1276
01:10:36,275 --> 01:10:38,625
- I went down to
the EEOC and did,
1277
01:10:38,756 --> 01:10:41,324
I believe it was about four
hours worth of interviews,
1278
01:10:41,454 --> 01:10:44,109
and so did many
other people too.
1279
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,938
- In terms of outcomes,
the EEOC is always focused
1280
01:10:47,068 --> 01:10:50,028
on a variety of remedies.
1281
01:10:52,204 --> 01:10:55,990
That could range from
instituting certain percentages
1282
01:10:56,121 --> 01:10:58,906
of women considered
and hired for jobs.
1283
01:10:59,037 --> 01:11:02,214
They can impose
reporting requirements.
1284
01:11:02,345 --> 01:11:03,520
Here are the number of
women we considered,
1285
01:11:03,650 --> 01:11:06,044
we are the number of women
we hired, here's why.
1286
01:11:06,174 --> 01:11:08,351
- I would hope it would
be a wake up call.
1287
01:11:10,266 --> 01:11:13,921
We're all of us doing something
really wrong and it's time.
1288
01:11:25,411 --> 01:11:28,196
- Every form of
pressure is important.
1289
01:11:28,327 --> 01:11:32,897
If it comes from a need
to settle a lawsuit,
1290
01:11:33,027 --> 01:11:36,074
it will happen faster
then if it comes from,
1291
01:11:36,204 --> 01:11:38,032
gee, this is something
we should do,
1292
01:11:38,163 --> 01:11:39,773
but we don't have to do it.
1293
01:11:39,860 --> 01:11:43,168
- I think the EEOC
thing is great,
1294
01:11:43,299 --> 01:11:46,084
because you either gotta
shame people legally
1295
01:11:46,214 --> 01:11:48,956
and say you may get sued
if you don't do this,
1296
01:11:49,087 --> 01:11:50,131
or you just have to
shame them publicly
1297
01:11:50,262 --> 01:11:52,220
and go like, hey
everybody, look,
1298
01:11:52,351 --> 01:11:54,614
look what they haven't been
doing, this is ridiculous.
1299
01:11:56,747 --> 01:11:59,402
- As it stands right
now, if you are a person
1300
01:11:59,489 --> 01:12:02,796
with hiring power and you
are not actively, actively
1301
01:12:02,927 --> 01:12:06,974
trying to hire more women,
you are part of the problem.
1302
01:12:07,105 --> 01:12:10,630
- I'll be interested in seeing
in this very documentary
1303
01:12:10,717 --> 01:12:13,198
how many men in
positions of power
1304
01:12:13,285 --> 01:12:16,070
will sit here and explain
why they don't hire women.
1305
01:12:16,201 --> 01:12:17,376
It's an easy question.
1306
01:12:27,299 --> 01:12:28,431
- At the same time,
I started noticing
1307
01:12:28,561 --> 01:12:30,389
the scripts are really bad
for women in Hollywood.
1308
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,000
I decided I was gonna go on
a tour of all the studios
1309
01:12:33,087 --> 01:12:34,698
and meet with every
studio head and say,
1310
01:12:34,828 --> 01:12:37,831
what are you developing
for me, for other women?
1311
01:12:37,962 --> 01:12:41,357
And they literally looked at
me blank, they had nothing.
1312
01:12:41,487 --> 01:12:44,534
One studio said, we think
we might have one movie
1313
01:12:44,664 --> 01:12:46,971
where we can flip the gender
from a guy to a women.
1314
01:12:47,101 --> 01:12:49,887
And I thought, what?
1315
01:12:50,017 --> 01:12:51,236
This is crazy.
1316
01:12:51,323 --> 01:12:53,107
I felt like I could
either admire that problem
1317
01:12:53,238 --> 01:12:54,848
or do something about it.
1318
01:12:54,935 --> 01:12:56,763
- You sound like a feminist.
1319
01:12:56,850 --> 01:12:58,548
- I am.
1320
01:12:58,678 --> 01:13:01,942
- That's excellent, that's
fantastic, I love feminists.
1321
01:13:02,073 --> 01:13:05,555
- So I put up my own money
and I had two employees
1322
01:13:05,642 --> 01:13:08,558
and just started
developing these projects
1323
01:13:08,688 --> 01:13:11,343
with smart, articulate,
capable women.
1324
01:13:11,474 --> 01:13:12,736
It's actually kind of annoying
1325
01:13:12,866 --> 01:13:14,999
that you look like
that and you're smart.
1326
01:13:15,129 --> 01:13:17,393
- Reese has a very
vital production company
1327
01:13:17,523 --> 01:13:20,091
and they're creating
female centric stories
1328
01:13:20,221 --> 01:13:22,267
that are really successful.
1329
01:13:22,398 --> 01:13:27,141
- Big Little Lies.
[audience applauding]
1330
01:13:30,623 --> 01:13:33,670
- It's time for our
business to wake up
1331
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,194
and realize that
it's good economics
1332
01:13:36,281 --> 01:13:37,978
as well as the
right thing to do.
1333
01:13:40,764 --> 01:13:42,156
- People in senior leadership
1334
01:13:42,287 --> 01:13:44,942
can really change
an organization.
1335
01:13:45,029 --> 01:13:48,119
Having a specific plan
in their talent strategy
1336
01:13:48,249 --> 01:13:51,775
about diversity and inclusion
and being very persistent
1337
01:13:51,905 --> 01:13:53,777
to make sure that
you're getting access
1338
01:13:53,907 --> 01:13:55,605
to the best pool of
talent that you can.
1339
01:13:58,346 --> 01:14:00,479
- When I was president
of entertainment at ABC,
1340
01:14:00,610 --> 01:14:02,481
it was just after
Sex And The City
1341
01:14:02,612 --> 01:14:04,788
was announced to be going away.
1342
01:14:04,918 --> 01:14:07,878
- Stop, really, you're
gonna make me cry.
1343
01:14:08,008 --> 01:14:10,707
- That became a real trigger.
1344
01:14:10,837 --> 01:14:14,188
We need to find the
next show for women.
1345
01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:16,364
- I may be dead, but
I'm still pretty.
1346
01:14:16,495 --> 01:14:17,888
- I would watch TV and the women
1347
01:14:17,975 --> 01:14:22,283
on network television
all felt cute.
1348
01:14:22,414 --> 01:14:24,155
- [Both] I'm sexy, I'm cute.
1349
01:14:24,285 --> 01:14:25,852
- It's so girly and stupid.
1350
01:14:25,983 --> 01:14:27,375
- [Shonda] They all felt
like somebody's fantasy
1351
01:14:27,506 --> 01:14:28,638
of what a woman would be.
1352
01:14:28,768 --> 01:14:30,335
- God, look at her.
1353
01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:32,685
- I was like, I don't really
wanna watch these shows.
1354
01:14:32,816 --> 01:14:34,339
What I wanted to
watch was a show
1355
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:36,863
about competitive women
who loved their jobs,
1356
01:14:36,994 --> 01:14:41,259
who are happy to stand up
to the guys and be big dogs.
1357
01:14:41,389 --> 01:14:43,130
- We were rolling
some ideas around
1358
01:14:43,217 --> 01:14:45,829
and the idea of doing
an medical show came up,
1359
01:14:45,916 --> 01:14:47,265
and so we started talking about
1360
01:14:47,395 --> 01:14:48,745
what a medical show
would look like
1361
01:14:48,832 --> 01:14:50,616
if it was coming
from Shonda's brain.
1362
01:14:50,703 --> 01:14:52,488
[typing]
1363
01:14:52,618 --> 01:14:53,750
- She wrote Grey's Anatomy.
1364
01:14:53,837 --> 01:14:55,578
The way that she wanted to do it
1365
01:14:55,708 --> 01:14:56,970
with the diversity of the cast
1366
01:14:57,101 --> 01:14:59,799
and the diversity of
the points of view,
1367
01:14:59,886 --> 01:15:01,627
it was totally unique.
1368
01:15:03,586 --> 01:15:05,022
- Betsy and I were
brought into a room
1369
01:15:05,152 --> 01:15:07,111
full of older white men.
1370
01:15:07,241 --> 01:15:11,158
- Pilot screenings
were dominantly male.
1371
01:15:11,289 --> 01:15:13,857
- This one gentlemen said,
the pilot is appalling,
1372
01:15:13,987 --> 01:15:17,338
you have this women
who the night before
1373
01:15:17,469 --> 01:15:20,864
her first day in her
new job goes out,
1374
01:15:20,994 --> 01:15:25,346
gets drunk, picks up a
guy, sleeps with him,
1375
01:15:25,477 --> 01:15:28,393
and then goes into work,
who would ever do that?
1376
01:15:29,873 --> 01:15:31,570
And I remember looking
at him and saying,
1377
01:15:31,701 --> 01:15:32,832
well actually, I did it.
1378
01:15:32,963 --> 01:15:35,400
- It was fascinating
watching them
1379
01:15:35,531 --> 01:15:38,011
trying to shape Meredith Grey
1380
01:15:38,142 --> 01:15:41,232
into one of their fantasy girls
who's perfect and wholesome.
1381
01:15:41,362 --> 01:15:42,929
We just didn't do it.
1382
01:15:43,060 --> 01:15:45,715
- [Man] Dr. Grey, you need
to tell us what you wanna do.
1383
01:15:45,802 --> 01:15:47,412
- All the parts that I
had been auditioning for
1384
01:15:47,543 --> 01:15:49,501
were the girlfriend or the wife,
1385
01:15:49,632 --> 01:15:51,590
so I did notice
immediately that,
1386
01:15:51,721 --> 01:15:55,202
oh, I get to be the lead
role, I get to be a doctor,
1387
01:15:55,333 --> 01:15:57,074
I get to have opinions,
I get to be smart.
1388
01:15:59,032 --> 01:16:03,602
- Shonda was able to make
half of her cast not white.
1389
01:16:03,733 --> 01:16:05,648
- Everyone, listen up, please.
1390
01:16:05,778 --> 01:16:08,694
- I was very lucky because
Grey's Anatomy was developed
1391
01:16:08,825 --> 01:16:11,610
under the network
presidency of Susan Lyne.
1392
01:16:11,741 --> 01:16:13,481
She had to fight really hard
1393
01:16:13,612 --> 01:16:15,092
to get them to
put it on the air.
1394
01:16:15,179 --> 01:16:18,704
- When I called to say we
were gonna green light it,
1395
01:16:18,835 --> 01:16:21,794
the male executive on
the other end of the line
1396
01:16:21,925 --> 01:16:23,274
literally hung up on me.
1397
01:16:26,016 --> 01:16:28,453
[light music]
1398
01:16:31,108 --> 01:16:33,153
- Because of the show's success,
1399
01:16:33,284 --> 01:16:37,897
what Shonda has done with that
power has been remarkable.
1400
01:16:39,812 --> 01:16:40,987
- Moments like this give
every woman an opportunity
1401
01:16:41,118 --> 01:16:43,860
to decide what kind of
person she wants to be.
1402
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:47,341
- She created Scandal,
where the lead character
1403
01:16:47,472 --> 01:16:49,996
is an African-American woman.
1404
01:16:50,127 --> 01:16:53,043
Later on, she was
also able to hire
1405
01:16:53,173 --> 01:16:55,523
a African-American lead actress
1406
01:16:55,654 --> 01:17:00,137
who is older and
who has darker skin.
1407
01:17:00,267 --> 01:17:03,053
These are all building blocks
1408
01:17:03,140 --> 01:17:07,013
to being able to
show ourselves fully.
1409
01:17:07,144 --> 01:17:11,191
- When you have diverse
creators making diverse content,
1410
01:17:11,278 --> 01:17:14,412
you get representations
of experience
1411
01:17:14,542 --> 01:17:17,371
that you never would
have gotten otherwise.
1412
01:17:18,590 --> 01:17:20,070
That scene with Viola Davis
1413
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,334
taking off her wig
was revolutionary.
1414
01:17:25,249 --> 01:17:28,687
We often, as black women,
have to put on this armor
1415
01:17:28,774 --> 01:17:30,776
when we enter the world.
1416
01:17:30,863 --> 01:17:31,908
- It was like she took
1417
01:17:31,995 --> 01:17:35,041
the weight off of our
shoulders in public.
1418
01:17:37,087 --> 01:17:39,002
[somber music]
1419
01:17:39,132 --> 01:17:42,875
That moment
represented black women
1420
01:17:43,006 --> 01:17:46,879
comin' out of these shadows
of I have to look like this.
1421
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,622
- Shonda Rhimes is the
1422
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:53,016
most powerful
showrunner in Hollywood.
1423
01:17:54,974 --> 01:17:58,848
People look at her and say,
isn't the problem solved?
1424
01:18:05,942 --> 01:18:08,727
[keyboard clicking]
1425
01:18:14,820 --> 01:18:18,171
- I was following the
EEOC case very closely.
1426
01:18:18,302 --> 01:18:20,652
The women who brought that
suit and who documented
1427
01:18:20,783 --> 01:18:25,439
all those exclusions
and abuses are heroic.
1428
01:18:27,877 --> 01:18:32,142
I began digging around
and I wanted to see
1429
01:18:32,272 --> 01:18:35,536
what I could find out about
directors in the world of TV.
1430
01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:38,975
All the data was there,
but it wasn't all that easy
1431
01:18:39,062 --> 01:18:42,282
to see the numbers by network.
1432
01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:49,072
I don't like math, but even
a non-math person like me
1433
01:18:49,202 --> 01:18:50,943
can add up a row of zeroes.
1434
01:18:54,381 --> 01:18:57,123
I constructed a chart
for every network,
1435
01:18:57,254 --> 01:18:58,908
and there were four categories:
1436
01:18:59,038 --> 01:19:02,520
white men, white women, men
of color, women of color.
1437
01:19:02,650 --> 01:19:04,740
And the network with the
worst track record...
1438
01:19:10,615 --> 01:19:11,311
was FX.
1439
01:19:23,584 --> 01:19:25,717
- I was very disappointed.
1440
01:19:25,848 --> 01:19:28,764
I thought of myself as
an enlightened person.
1441
01:19:28,894 --> 01:19:31,070
I would have described
myself as a feminist.
1442
01:19:31,201 --> 01:19:33,029
So I started to inquire
much more deeply
1443
01:19:33,159 --> 01:19:36,206
into the kinds of
unique challenges
1444
01:19:36,336 --> 01:19:39,426
faced by women, by
African-Americans,
1445
01:19:39,557 --> 01:19:42,212
by people who are
not gender normative.
1446
01:19:42,342 --> 01:19:43,953
We gotta put our
finger on the scale
1447
01:19:44,083 --> 01:19:47,043
and try to do something
to change the situation.
1448
01:19:47,173 --> 01:19:51,787
- People will hire the same
type of people every time
1449
01:19:53,397 --> 01:19:54,877
if you don't have that
meeting to tell them not to.
1450
01:19:56,443 --> 01:20:00,970
[light upbeat music]
[keyboard clicking]
1451
01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:04,538
- I wrote a letter to all
the showrunners of our shows
1452
01:20:04,669 --> 01:20:07,237
asking them to
help us do better,
1453
01:20:07,367 --> 01:20:10,196
but also telling them
that we would provide them
1454
01:20:10,327 --> 01:20:13,156
with all the resources necessary
to make that successful.
1455
01:20:13,286 --> 01:20:17,029
- In July, their staff
approached me and said,
1456
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:21,817
we've gone from 89% white men
directing our shows to 49%.
1457
01:20:24,297 --> 01:20:28,040
And I just said, no you didn't.
1458
01:20:31,435 --> 01:20:34,220
- I had this unconscious
bias that we would have to
1459
01:20:34,351 --> 01:20:37,745
be making sacrifices to hire
people with less experience.
1460
01:20:37,876 --> 01:20:39,182
- They don't care
that I'm black.
1461
01:20:39,312 --> 01:20:40,705
- [John] And maybe that the
talent wouldn't be there.
1462
01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:42,272
- I just think that
they just don't like me.
1463
01:20:42,402 --> 01:20:45,057
- Oh, they care plenty.
1464
01:20:45,188 --> 01:20:46,058
- And I'm here to
say it's there.
1465
01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:47,886
[light dramatic music]
1466
01:20:48,017 --> 01:20:50,802
- There's nothing funny here!
1467
01:20:50,933 --> 01:20:52,108
- [John] The minute we
open our door and we say,
1468
01:20:52,238 --> 01:20:54,719
come express it here,
- Welcome.
1469
01:20:54,806 --> 01:20:55,676
- the work got better.
1470
01:21:00,290 --> 01:21:01,900
- Hello, Daddy.
1471
01:21:02,031 --> 01:21:04,120
- Feud is so, so good.
1472
01:21:04,207 --> 01:21:05,469
You directed an episode of it.
1473
01:21:05,599 --> 01:21:08,559
- I did, it'll be on
[audience applauding]
1474
01:21:08,689 --> 01:21:10,039
- It's one of the best things
1475
01:21:10,126 --> 01:21:12,258
that's ever happened in
my professional career.
1476
01:21:13,651 --> 01:21:15,131
Anyone who then told me,
1477
01:21:15,261 --> 01:21:19,178
or told any other journalist
in the future, it's too hard,
1478
01:21:19,309 --> 01:21:22,660
no, it's not, look
at what FX did.
1479
01:21:26,707 --> 01:21:28,535
- It can only be done if
1480
01:21:28,666 --> 01:21:33,149
the CEO is totally
invested in this.
1481
01:21:33,236 --> 01:21:36,239
It doesn't work if
it's just lip service.
1482
01:21:36,369 --> 01:21:39,851
- Progress will happen
when men take a stand.
1483
01:21:39,982 --> 01:21:42,288
It's the chivalry
of the 21st century.
1484
01:21:44,551 --> 01:21:46,902
- I'm doing a better job
1485
01:21:47,032 --> 01:21:50,209
for having changed the
way I think about this.
1486
01:21:50,340 --> 01:21:52,559
I'm doing a better
job of funneling
1487
01:21:52,690 --> 01:21:56,215
the most talented people
into this business,
1488
01:21:56,346 --> 01:21:58,043
and I think that makes
people uncomfortable.
1489
01:22:01,220 --> 01:22:04,789
I've been increasingly
open as I've gotten older
1490
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:10,099
to seeing my white, male,
heterosexual identity
1491
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:12,971
as an unearned
advantage in the world.
1492
01:22:13,102 --> 01:22:15,365
I think it's difficult
sometimes for men to see that
1493
01:22:15,495 --> 01:22:18,107
because I think they
feel like it diminishes
1494
01:22:18,237 --> 01:22:22,763
the nature of their
achievement or their life,
1495
01:22:22,894 --> 01:22:25,244
but I just think it's a fact.
1496
01:22:25,331 --> 01:22:27,986
- When you try to
move from where we are
1497
01:22:28,073 --> 01:22:31,947
towards something which looks
more nearly like equality,
1498
01:22:32,034 --> 01:22:35,602
there are people who are
doing quite nicely now
1499
01:22:35,733 --> 01:22:37,996
who feel like something is
being taken away from them.
1500
01:22:41,086 --> 01:22:44,872
I have a friend, he came
back from a job interview
1501
01:22:45,003 --> 01:22:47,353
that hadn't
particularly gone well
1502
01:22:47,484 --> 01:22:49,399
and we were having
coffee and he said,
1503
01:22:51,053 --> 01:22:53,533
all they're looking
for is black women.
1504
01:22:53,664 --> 01:22:55,796
And I said, did
they tell you that?
1505
01:22:55,927 --> 01:22:57,973
And he said, no, but
everybody knows that.
1506
01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:00,062
And then I didn't
know what to do.
1507
01:23:00,192 --> 01:23:03,848
I didn't know whether I should
get up and leave the table,
1508
01:23:03,979 --> 01:23:07,330
whether I should pull the
statistics up on my telephone.
1509
01:23:07,417 --> 01:23:10,507
But it's simply not true.
1510
01:23:10,637 --> 01:23:11,899
- We're hearing a
lot of people saying,
1511
01:23:12,030 --> 01:23:16,817
when we fact in gender we're
not selecting for excellence.
1512
01:23:18,428 --> 01:23:20,821
And I find that it's
the other way around.
1513
01:23:20,952 --> 01:23:24,869
We are factoring in
gender, the male gender,
1514
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,219
and that is what is constraining
1515
01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:29,004
the selection of excellence.
1516
01:23:30,309 --> 01:23:34,400
- The countervailing forces
against change must be enormous.
1517
01:23:34,531 --> 01:23:38,578
They're enormous, they're
powerful, and they're silent.
1518
01:23:40,145 --> 01:23:44,671
- As women, we are not
allowed to be angry.
1519
01:23:45,890 --> 01:23:48,806
Our anger is not appropriate.
1520
01:23:48,893 --> 01:23:52,070
- I can point to the change.
1521
01:23:52,201 --> 01:23:56,596
I can point to when the
forest went up in fire.
1522
01:23:56,683 --> 01:24:00,122
- [Trump] I moved on her like
a bitch, and she was married.
1523
01:24:00,252 --> 01:24:03,081
She is a disgusting pig, right?
1524
01:24:03,168 --> 01:24:04,909
When you're a star,
they let you do it.
1525
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,911
You can do anything,
grab 'em by the pussy.
1526
01:24:13,700 --> 01:24:16,573
- [Man] The 45th president
of the United States.
1527
01:24:19,706 --> 01:24:23,101
- It is truly, unequivocally,
a breaking point for women.
1528
01:24:23,232 --> 01:24:26,670
- Oh my god, this was
the gasoline on the spark
1529
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,367
that awakened the country.
1530
01:24:29,499 --> 01:24:32,067
[Quiet by MILCK]
1531
01:24:41,293 --> 01:24:45,384
- In the last couple of decades,
a majority of women felt
1532
01:24:45,471 --> 01:24:47,212
that there was nothing
more to fight for.
1533
01:24:50,563 --> 01:24:53,000
Now we see that there's
a lot to fight for.
1534
01:24:55,481 --> 01:25:00,269
♪ Shut up and smile ♪
1535
01:25:01,444 --> 01:25:03,968
♪ Don't spread your legs ♪
1536
01:25:04,099 --> 01:25:08,103
Oh my god.
[background chattering]
1537
01:25:11,454 --> 01:25:12,846
- People didn't
just get discouraged
1538
01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:15,284
and say, wow, that sucks.
1539
01:25:16,285 --> 01:25:19,070
Right there on
inauguration day going,
1540
01:25:19,201 --> 01:25:21,159
we're here and we're
not going away!
1541
01:25:21,333 --> 01:25:23,901
♪ But no one knows me ♪
1542
01:25:24,075 --> 01:25:27,470
♪ No one ever will ♪
1543
01:25:27,644 --> 01:25:32,301
♪ If don't say something
if I just lie still ♪
1544
01:25:33,519 --> 01:25:35,565
♪ But I'll beat that monster ♪
1545
01:25:35,739 --> 01:25:39,569
♪ Scare them all away ♪
1546
01:25:39,699 --> 01:25:43,007
- Older women that have
been through these battles
1547
01:25:43,138 --> 01:25:47,751
are gratified to see it
revived and it feels right.
1548
01:25:47,838 --> 01:25:50,057
♪ I can't keep quiet ♪
1549
01:25:50,232 --> 01:25:52,973
♪ No, no, no ♪
1550
01:25:53,060 --> 01:25:55,454
♪ I can't keep quiet ♪
1551
01:25:55,541 --> 01:25:58,979
- I want to thank
our new president.
1552
01:25:59,066 --> 01:26:01,199
You just started the revolution.
1553
01:26:01,330 --> 01:26:03,419
[crowd cheering]
1554
01:26:03,549 --> 01:26:06,509
- Women's right
are human rights.
1555
01:26:06,596 --> 01:26:09,773
- [Crowd] Women's
rights are human rights.
1556
01:26:09,860 --> 01:26:10,861
[crowd cheering]
1557
01:26:10,991 --> 01:26:14,865
- All of a sudden,
the dam broke open.
1558
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:17,302
♪ I can't keep quiet ♪
1559
01:26:17,433 --> 01:26:18,695
- I could never have
envisioned something
1560
01:26:18,825 --> 01:26:20,044
that would change the world.
1561
01:26:20,131 --> 01:26:21,480
I was tryin' to
change my community.
1562
01:26:21,567 --> 01:26:22,829
♪ Oh, I'm breaking quiet ♪
1563
01:26:23,003 --> 01:26:24,744
♪ Let it out, let it
out, let it out now ♪
1564
01:26:24,918 --> 01:26:27,660
♪ Must be someone
who understands ♪
1565
01:26:27,834 --> 01:26:29,140
♪ Let it out, let it
out, let it out now ♪
1566
01:26:29,271 --> 01:26:31,011
- [Woman] New York
Times reporting
1567
01:26:31,142 --> 01:26:32,665
- [Man] A growing community
of women speaking out
1568
01:26:32,796 --> 01:26:34,537
- [Woman] Harvey Weinstein
sexually harassed
1569
01:26:34,667 --> 01:26:36,539
- [Woman] Including Rose
McGowan and Ashley Judd
1570
01:26:36,626 --> 01:26:39,933
- Hollywood has built
itself on that casting couch
1571
01:26:40,064 --> 01:26:41,979
and on keeping people silent.
1572
01:26:42,109 --> 01:26:44,721
- When it's one, you
can say she's crazy
1573
01:26:44,851 --> 01:26:49,334
and ruin her career, and when
it's 100, it's undeniable.
1574
01:26:50,683 --> 01:26:52,990
- Guilty, guilty, guilty.
1575
01:26:54,209 --> 01:26:56,036
- Sexual harassment and abuse
1576
01:26:56,167 --> 01:26:58,735
are a symptom of
employment discrimination.
1577
01:26:58,865 --> 01:27:03,392
They expose the way that
business works in Hollywood.
1578
01:27:05,176 --> 01:27:07,874
- [Man] The me too movement
is morphing into Time's Up.
1579
01:27:08,005 --> 01:27:10,573
- [Man] The movement has
raised over $16 million
1580
01:27:10,703 --> 01:27:12,749
to help victims of
workplace harassment.
1581
01:27:12,879 --> 01:27:15,317
- It's action, and that was
what really pulled me in.
1582
01:27:17,406 --> 01:27:19,277
♪ Let it out, let it
out, let it out now ♪
1583
01:27:19,408 --> 01:27:23,063
- We have to create momentum
based on this moment.
1584
01:27:23,150 --> 01:27:26,589
You can't just say, well, we
won't sexually harass the women
1585
01:27:26,676 --> 01:27:28,721
but we're not gonna
give them bigger roles
1586
01:27:28,852 --> 01:27:31,158
and more to say and more
important things to do.
1587
01:27:37,861 --> 01:27:40,298
- In order for true
systemic change to happen,
1588
01:27:40,429 --> 01:27:42,822
it has to be inclusive, everyone
has to come along with it.
1589
01:27:42,953 --> 01:27:45,608
And change needs to
happen immediately.
1590
01:27:45,738 --> 01:27:48,437
[light upbeat music]
1591
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,845
- We need more female content.
1592
01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:08,195
We need more female filmmakers
1593
01:28:08,326 --> 01:28:09,936
and better roles for actresses.
1594
01:28:10,067 --> 01:28:13,331
And at a certain point, some
people have to take some risks
1595
01:28:13,462 --> 01:28:15,420
or everything just
stays the same, right?
1596
01:28:21,165 --> 01:28:22,079
[exploding]
1597
01:28:22,209 --> 01:28:23,820
- This is no man's land, Diana.
1598
01:28:23,950 --> 01:28:26,562
This is not something you
can cross, it's not possible.
1599
01:28:28,955 --> 01:28:30,740
[somber music]
1600
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:33,003
- This was the make
it or break it moment.
1601
01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:36,049
It's a moment of confidence and
decision of what you can do.
1602
01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:38,182
It's not about
the wall of people
1603
01:28:38,313 --> 01:28:39,705
that you're going up against.
1604
01:28:39,836 --> 01:28:41,446
She's just going to go across
1605
01:28:41,533 --> 01:28:43,143
and be the one that
makes a difference.
1606
01:28:44,884 --> 01:28:46,799
I've seen a ton of
women really go up
1607
01:28:46,930 --> 01:28:49,411
in the face of things
and take things head on.
1608
01:28:52,631 --> 01:28:56,940
- If you grew up free from
unconscious gender bias,
1609
01:28:57,070 --> 01:28:59,421
I think it would have
an enormous impact.
1610
01:28:59,551 --> 01:29:04,164
It could change our culture,
it could change the world.
1611
01:29:06,906 --> 01:29:10,040
- To be able to have
authentic representation,
1612
01:29:10,127 --> 01:29:12,738
we really need 50/50 on
screen, behind the scenes.
1613
01:29:15,045 --> 01:29:17,177
It's the responsibility
1614
01:29:17,308 --> 01:29:22,008
of industry executives
to obey the law.
1615
01:29:22,922 --> 01:29:26,099
[light dramatic music]
1616
01:29:26,230 --> 01:29:27,840
- She's takin' all
the fire, let's go.
1617
01:29:29,973 --> 01:29:34,586
- We as consumers lose sight
of the power that we do have.
1618
01:29:38,242 --> 01:29:41,419
- When audiences decide
I'm not gonna see movies
1619
01:29:41,550 --> 01:29:45,510
where women are belittled and
I'm not gonna let my daughter
1620
01:29:45,641 --> 01:29:47,991
see movies like that,
things are gonna change.
1621
01:29:55,738 --> 01:30:00,699
[grunting]
[metal crashing]
1622
01:30:00,786 --> 01:30:02,614
- It's your daughters,
it's your granddaughters,
1623
01:30:02,701 --> 01:30:06,401
it's your children, it's
your stories, it's your job.
1624
01:30:15,322 --> 01:30:18,021
[uplifting music]
1625
01:30:26,333 --> 01:30:30,773
- If I could go back and
talk to my teenage self,
1626
01:30:30,903 --> 01:30:34,907
I would say, actually,
you'll learn a feminist
1627
01:30:35,038 --> 01:30:38,041
is exactly what you wanna be
and people will come to realize
1628
01:30:38,171 --> 01:30:41,218
that what's good for women
is good for everybody.
1629
01:30:48,399 --> 01:30:51,837
[Side by Side by Andra Day]
1630
01:31:20,605 --> 01:31:24,957
♪ Infiltrate, trouble
make, innovate, detonate ♪
1631
01:31:25,131 --> 01:31:27,612
♪ This changes everything ♪
1632
01:31:27,786 --> 01:31:29,701
♪ What you expect of me ♪
1633
01:31:29,875 --> 01:31:31,137
♪ Keep it sweet ♪
1634
01:31:31,311 --> 01:31:32,443
♪ Keep it low ♪
1635
01:31:32,530 --> 01:31:34,750
♪ Sugar don't rock the boat ♪
1636
01:31:34,924 --> 01:31:38,841
♪ Why are you uncomfortable
with beautiful ♪
1637
01:31:39,015 --> 01:31:40,625
♪ I can see you afraid ♪
1638
01:31:40,799 --> 01:31:41,844
♪ Tell me what of ♪
1639
01:31:41,931 --> 01:31:42,932
♪ Stuck in a rut ♪
1640
01:31:43,106 --> 01:31:45,195
♪ Only because you
clipping my wings ♪
1641
01:31:45,369 --> 01:31:46,457
♪ Holding me down ♪
1642
01:31:46,631 --> 01:31:47,893
♪ Caging me in ♪
1643
01:31:48,067 --> 01:31:48,938
♪ And locking me out ♪
1644
01:31:49,025 --> 01:31:50,200
♪ Scared of the tears ♪
1645
01:31:50,374 --> 01:31:51,680
♪ Sweat or the blood ♪
1646
01:31:51,767 --> 01:31:54,030
♪ Standing on me to
hold yourself up ♪
1647
01:31:54,204 --> 01:31:56,380
♪ Only a few feet
off the ground ♪
1648
01:31:56,554 --> 01:32:01,211
♪ But why hover
when you could fly ♪
1649
01:32:03,822 --> 01:32:05,737
♪ What will guide you ♪
1650
01:32:05,911 --> 01:32:10,612
♪ With no stars in the sky ♪
1651
01:32:13,179 --> 01:32:15,704
♪ Your flag, half mast, ♪
1652
01:32:15,878 --> 01:32:20,578
♪ Let these old habits die ♪
1653
01:32:23,059 --> 01:32:27,672
♪ Used to saving you
just to be crucified ♪
1654
01:32:32,372 --> 01:32:35,550
♪ But you just half a man ♪
1655
01:32:35,724 --> 01:32:38,857
♪ Until we side by side ♪
1656
01:32:46,996 --> 01:32:51,609
♪ Stalemate, elevate,
equal parts, co-create ♪
1657
01:32:52,697 --> 01:32:53,785
♪ How you gon know the way ♪
1658
01:32:53,959 --> 01:32:55,700
♪ With only half the truth? ♪
1659
01:32:55,874 --> 01:32:58,094
♪ But it's alright ♪
1660
01:32:58,268 --> 01:33:01,097
♪ We gon' be great ♪
1661
01:33:01,184 --> 01:33:03,578
♪ Fear just gets in the way ♪
1662
01:33:03,752 --> 01:33:06,015
♪ Don't think, participate ♪
1663
01:33:06,189 --> 01:33:08,365
♪ Saying I got a bad attitude ♪
1664
01:33:08,452 --> 01:33:09,366
♪ According to what ♪
1665
01:33:09,540 --> 01:33:10,889
♪ According to who? ♪
1666
01:33:11,063 --> 01:33:13,196
♪ Word of advice,
I'm being polite ♪
1667
01:33:13,370 --> 01:33:15,677
♪ And I'm only nice 'cause
that's what I like ♪
1668
01:33:15,764 --> 01:33:16,765
♪ Talk like I'm not ♪
1669
01:33:16,939 --> 01:33:18,201
♪ A part of the plan ♪
1670
01:33:18,375 --> 01:33:20,551
♪ Stay in my place but
that's where I am ♪
1671
01:33:20,725 --> 01:33:22,814
♪ God don't just speak to man ♪
1672
01:33:22,988 --> 01:33:27,732
♪ Why hover when you could fly ♪
1673
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:32,563
♪ What will guide you ♪
1674
01:33:32,737 --> 01:33:37,568
♪ With no stars in the sky ♪
1675
01:33:39,918 --> 01:33:41,920
♪ Your flag, half mast, ♪
1676
01:33:42,094 --> 01:33:46,882
♪ Let these old habits die ♪
1677
01:33:49,449 --> 01:33:54,106
♪ Used to saving you
just to be crucified ♪
1678
01:33:59,111 --> 01:34:01,940
♪ But you just half a man ♪
1679
01:34:02,114 --> 01:34:05,291
♪ Until we side by side ♪
1680
01:34:39,978 --> 01:34:41,980
♪ Why hover when you ♪
1681
01:34:42,154 --> 01:34:46,985
♪ Could fly ♪
1682
01:34:47,899 --> 01:34:49,379
♪ I will guide you ♪
1683
01:34:49,553 --> 01:34:54,210
♪ We can talk of all
the stars in the sky ♪
1684
01:34:56,647 --> 01:34:59,041
♪ Your flag, half mast, ♪
1685
01:34:59,215 --> 01:35:03,915
♪ Let these old habits die ♪
1686
01:35:06,526 --> 01:35:11,183
♪ Used to saving you
just to be crucified ♪
1687
01:35:15,710 --> 01:35:18,756
♪ But you just half a man ♪
1688
01:35:18,930 --> 01:35:23,718
♪ Until we side by side ♪
1689
01:35:25,589 --> 01:35:28,984
♪ Used to being crucified ♪
1690
01:35:39,603 --> 01:35:44,303
♪ We taking so much fire ♪
1691
01:35:44,477 --> 01:35:49,308
♪ Until we side by side ♪
1692
01:35:49,482 --> 01:35:52,572
♪ Until we side by side ♪
1693
01:35:59,362 --> 01:36:02,017
[light music]
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