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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:13,970 --> 00:00:17,104 [light dramatic music] 4 00:00:26,939 --> 00:00:29,464 [light music] 5 00:00:37,646 --> 00:00:40,344 [static crackling] 6 00:00:55,316 --> 00:00:57,405 - The basis of your thinking is determined 7 00:00:57,535 --> 00:00:59,363 by the first images you see; 8 00:00:59,450 --> 00:01:02,149 whose values are important and whose stories are important, 9 00:01:02,279 --> 00:01:04,716 and that's what we're teaching little girls and little boys. 10 00:01:04,803 --> 00:01:06,327 [light music] 11 00:01:06,457 --> 00:01:09,243 - The power of what you see in childhood 12 00:01:09,373 --> 00:01:11,245 really gets into the DNA 13 00:01:11,332 --> 00:01:13,769 of what becomes possible for you growing up. 14 00:01:16,772 --> 00:01:18,426 - Media has the power to educate, 15 00:01:18,556 --> 00:01:20,036 to shape people's thoughts. 16 00:01:20,167 --> 00:01:21,907 It also has an incredible power 17 00:01:22,038 --> 00:01:24,649 when you get to see someone who's like you on screen. 18 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:26,042 - The images that all of us see 19 00:01:26,173 --> 00:01:29,263 influence how we treat each other, 20 00:01:29,393 --> 00:01:33,615 and how policy is formed, and how ideas are built. 21 00:01:38,837 --> 00:01:40,230 - Filmmaking has told us no. 22 00:01:43,842 --> 00:01:48,325 Women shouldn't be focused on or learned about; 23 00:01:48,412 --> 00:01:52,242 their desires, their wants, their needs, their fears. 24 00:01:55,245 --> 00:01:57,769 - We're not just shaping the perspectives in this country, 25 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:00,381 we're shaping perspectives around the world. 26 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,385 - We've had such a tiny slice 27 00:02:04,515 --> 00:02:07,039 of what's evocative to the world on the screen. 28 00:02:08,519 --> 00:02:13,307 [gun firing] [glass shattering] 29 00:02:14,830 --> 00:02:16,048 - 80% of the media consumed worldwide 30 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:19,008 is created in the United States. 31 00:02:21,010 --> 00:02:24,187 We are responsible for exporting 32 00:02:24,318 --> 00:02:26,798 a pretty negative view of women. 33 00:02:26,929 --> 00:02:29,714 - [Man] Pete, I told you, don't play sports with women. 34 00:02:29,845 --> 00:02:31,238 - [Boy] You play ball like a girl. 35 00:02:33,022 --> 00:02:34,893 - Most of television, most of film, 36 00:02:35,024 --> 00:02:37,331 is men making stuff for other men. 37 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:40,203 - Women are virtually excluded 38 00:02:40,334 --> 00:02:43,902 from the directing profession, we are disappeared. 39 00:02:44,033 --> 00:02:47,906 - We have to all decide together that it's enough. 40 00:02:48,037 --> 00:02:51,736 - The door has to be opened, we just want inclusion. 41 00:02:53,608 --> 00:02:56,350 [thoughtful music] 42 00:03:04,923 --> 00:03:08,188 [traffic passing] 43 00:03:08,318 --> 00:03:11,365 - Remember the kids books in the 50s, See Dick, See Jane? 44 00:03:11,495 --> 00:03:14,846 And I just felt like we see Dick all the time. 45 00:03:14,977 --> 00:03:15,891 [audience laughing] 46 00:03:15,978 --> 00:03:18,633 [audience applauding] 47 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,852 And I just wanted to see more Jane. 48 00:03:26,249 --> 00:03:30,297 When I was a teen, my parents subscribed to Reader's Digest, 49 00:03:30,384 --> 00:03:32,603 and I remember reading some article 50 00:03:32,734 --> 00:03:35,519 about why feminists are ruining the world. 51 00:03:35,606 --> 00:03:36,999 I didn't know what a feminist was, but I said, 52 00:03:37,129 --> 00:03:38,957 whatever that is, I'm sure I don't wanna be that, 53 00:03:39,088 --> 00:03:40,916 because they're ruining the world. 54 00:03:41,046 --> 00:03:43,745 - Oh, do you feel the breeze from the subway? 55 00:03:43,875 --> 00:03:46,051 - [Geena] I was obsessed with becoming a movie star. 56 00:03:47,139 --> 00:03:48,837 I watched TV a lot. 57 00:03:48,967 --> 00:03:49,881 - Hi, Ginger! 58 00:03:49,968 --> 00:03:51,143 - Hi, Gilligan! 59 00:03:51,274 --> 00:03:53,015 - [Geena] So I'm thinking, Ginger, movie star. 60 00:03:53,145 --> 00:03:55,060 - I'm from Hollywood, I've been chased by the best. 61 00:03:55,191 --> 00:03:57,759 - My first job, Lynn Stalmaster's office 62 00:03:57,889 --> 00:04:00,762 called model agencies. 63 00:04:00,849 --> 00:04:03,199 The character had to look good in their underwear. 64 00:04:03,330 --> 00:04:04,940 I had been in Victoria's Secret catalogue. 65 00:04:06,855 --> 00:04:08,857 Airbrushed, perfectly lit. 66 00:04:08,987 --> 00:04:10,946 They were like, let's get her! 67 00:04:11,076 --> 00:04:12,774 - Oh, I'm sorry! 68 00:04:12,904 --> 00:04:13,862 - Okay, that's okay. 69 00:04:13,992 --> 00:04:15,167 So the very first thing I shot 70 00:04:15,298 --> 00:04:16,908 was in my underwear, with Dustin. 71 00:04:17,039 --> 00:04:18,432 - I have to kiss Dr. Brewster. 72 00:04:18,562 --> 00:04:20,782 - Oh, yeah, he kisses all the women on the show. 73 00:04:20,912 --> 00:04:22,784 We call him the tongue. 74 00:04:22,914 --> 00:04:25,569 - Movies and television have always driven me insane. 75 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:30,531 The misogyny is just so, it's almost unremarkable. 76 00:04:31,271 --> 00:04:33,011 ♪ Girls, girls, girls ♪ 77 00:04:33,142 --> 00:04:34,970 Back when I was doing music videos, 78 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:38,582 I just saw that women were absolutely inconsequential 79 00:04:38,713 --> 00:04:41,455 as anything other than ornamentation. 80 00:04:41,585 --> 00:04:45,241 I was learning to just shut up and get the job done. 81 00:04:47,025 --> 00:04:48,462 Just driving home one night, 82 00:04:50,028 --> 00:04:53,989 I just saw the whole thing in one flash. 83 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:56,208 And I had never written anything before. 84 00:04:57,645 --> 00:04:59,560 - Of all the movies I did, Thelma & Louise 85 00:04:59,647 --> 00:05:01,910 changed the course of my life. 86 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,739 - Well, darlin', look out, 'cause my hair is comin' down. 87 00:05:04,869 --> 00:05:05,827 - All right. 88 00:05:05,957 --> 00:05:07,698 - [Callie] All of us were - Smile. 89 00:05:07,829 --> 00:05:09,744 - stunned the movie had the kind of impact that it did. 90 00:05:10,745 --> 00:05:11,398 - You are disturbed! 91 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:14,575 - Yeah, I believe I am. 92 00:05:14,662 --> 00:05:17,317 The reaction that it got from women, 93 00:05:17,447 --> 00:05:18,927 [gun firing] it was completely different. 94 00:05:19,057 --> 00:05:20,145 - You gonna apologize or what? 95 00:05:20,232 --> 00:05:21,451 - They'd say things like, 96 00:05:21,538 --> 00:05:23,497 my friend and I acted out your trip. 97 00:05:23,627 --> 00:05:25,499 And I'd be like, what part? 98 00:05:25,629 --> 00:05:27,109 [gun firing] [exploding] 99 00:05:27,196 --> 00:05:29,024 - When they blow up that truck, 100 00:05:29,154 --> 00:05:31,722 it's just like, oh, you get such a rush. 101 00:05:31,853 --> 00:05:33,985 - There was something I think freeing 102 00:05:34,116 --> 00:05:35,857 in every woman that watched it. 103 00:05:35,944 --> 00:05:39,295 - It showed me like, wow, you can have power as a woman 104 00:05:39,426 --> 00:05:41,689 and not have to be in completely of service 105 00:05:41,819 --> 00:05:43,386 of submitting 1,000%. 106 00:05:43,473 --> 00:05:44,996 - My husband wasn't sweet to me, look how I turned out. 107 00:05:45,083 --> 00:05:46,911 - [Lesli] It's unusual seeing woman 108 00:05:47,042 --> 00:05:48,260 - Shit! 109 00:05:48,391 --> 00:05:50,045 - as complicated, able to make mistakes, 110 00:05:50,175 --> 00:05:53,353 able to be funny and sexual, and troubled. 111 00:05:55,224 --> 00:05:58,053 - I had been awakened to how women 112 00:05:58,183 --> 00:06:00,055 are portrayed in the media. 113 00:06:00,185 --> 00:06:04,668 I realized we give them so few opportunities 114 00:06:04,799 --> 00:06:09,107 to feel inspired by the female characters. 115 00:06:09,238 --> 00:06:10,370 - [Man] Pops it out of bounds. 116 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:13,416 - The next movie was A League Of Their Own. 117 00:06:14,896 --> 00:06:17,638 Now it was girls coming up and saying, 118 00:06:17,768 --> 00:06:19,727 I play sports because of that movie. 119 00:06:19,857 --> 00:06:20,815 - I can't do that. 120 00:06:20,945 --> 00:06:21,903 - Who can? 121 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:24,601 - A League Of Their Own was 122 00:06:24,732 --> 00:06:26,124 a very influential movie for me as a kid. 123 00:06:26,211 --> 00:06:30,041 It was one of the first movies that really affected me, 124 00:06:30,172 --> 00:06:32,348 I watched it every day for a whole summer. 125 00:06:32,435 --> 00:06:36,221 - I hadn't thought about the girls in the audience before. 126 00:06:36,352 --> 00:06:39,921 I realized we need to make sure girls can see 127 00:06:40,051 --> 00:06:41,226 female characters doing this. 128 00:06:41,357 --> 00:06:44,055 We don't have enough real life role models. 129 00:06:44,142 --> 00:06:47,015 - Okay, I gotta get tough with you guys! 130 00:06:47,145 --> 00:06:50,932 - We all grew up where it was perfectly okay 131 00:06:51,062 --> 00:06:53,935 to have TV shows that had no female characters. 132 00:06:54,065 --> 00:06:55,763 [phone ringing] 133 00:06:55,893 --> 00:06:57,068 - Call precinct, Jumana. 134 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:58,461 - If there is a female character, 135 00:06:58,548 --> 00:07:00,985 they're usually the one with a group of males. 136 00:07:01,116 --> 00:07:02,813 - [Chris] Whereas the male characters, 137 00:07:02,944 --> 00:07:05,120 they might have four or five lead characters. 138 00:07:05,250 --> 00:07:06,600 - We want something else! 139 00:07:06,730 --> 00:07:07,644 - So that you could have the one who is this 140 00:07:07,775 --> 00:07:09,080 and the one who is this, 141 00:07:09,211 --> 00:07:10,691 and the funny one and the smart one. 142 00:07:10,821 --> 00:07:12,083 - I'm the brains, you're the looks, Charlie's the wildcard, 143 00:07:12,214 --> 00:07:14,695 and Frank is the muscle. 144 00:07:14,782 --> 00:07:15,609 - [Charlie] Well, what's Dee? 145 00:07:15,739 --> 00:07:16,784 - She's the useless chick. 146 00:07:16,871 --> 00:07:17,524 - [Both] Oh! 147 00:07:17,654 --> 00:07:19,308 - Yeah! 148 00:07:19,395 --> 00:07:21,266 - Guys get to see themselves get to become a writer, 149 00:07:21,397 --> 00:07:24,095 get to become an astronaut. 150 00:07:24,226 --> 00:07:28,143 And women get to be the girlfriend that gets ditched. 151 00:07:28,273 --> 00:07:30,145 - Is everything okay, baby? 152 00:07:30,275 --> 00:07:31,625 - Mostly we're being saved. 153 00:07:31,755 --> 00:07:33,714 - [Spiderman] You have a knack for getting in trouble. 154 00:07:33,844 --> 00:07:35,411 - You have a knack for saving my life. 155 00:07:35,498 --> 00:07:38,022 - The woman in the story has to be the most beautiful woman 156 00:07:38,153 --> 00:07:39,807 so that the man is attracted to her. 157 00:07:39,937 --> 00:07:41,417 - What's wrong, daddy? 158 00:07:43,027 --> 00:07:46,857 - The reason we have much less complexity, 159 00:07:46,988 --> 00:07:48,903 it very much reflects on 160 00:07:49,033 --> 00:07:51,471 what's the point of view that you take to a film? 161 00:07:52,863 --> 00:07:54,909 - How do you write women so well? 162 00:07:54,996 --> 00:07:56,258 - I think of a man, 163 00:07:56,345 --> 00:07:59,740 and I take away reason and accountability. 164 00:08:08,052 --> 00:08:09,706 - White straight men who come from 165 00:08:09,793 --> 00:08:11,316 a certain class background 166 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:13,101 have had their hands on the narrative 167 00:08:13,231 --> 00:08:15,190 for as long as this country has been around. 168 00:08:17,235 --> 00:08:20,151 - Our anger, our frustration, our rage is the thing 169 00:08:20,238 --> 00:08:21,588 that stories have been told about 170 00:08:21,718 --> 00:08:24,765 for generations and generations. 171 00:08:27,245 --> 00:08:29,944 - All the way back into the 1800s, 172 00:08:30,074 --> 00:08:32,729 you've had a type of American hero, 173 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:36,211 which I would say is the same as the American antihero. 174 00:08:36,341 --> 00:08:38,126 - From now on, you stay out of this. 175 00:08:38,213 --> 00:08:40,563 All of ya, I don't want you with me. 176 00:08:40,694 --> 00:08:44,915 - It's the western myth extrapolated into any story. 177 00:08:46,395 --> 00:08:49,267 There is one man, usually middle aged, 178 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:54,446 he's a veteran, retired gunslinger. 179 00:08:54,577 --> 00:08:56,274 They need to pick up their guns again 180 00:08:56,361 --> 00:08:58,363 [gun firing] [screaming] 181 00:08:58,494 --> 00:09:02,498 to eliminate any challenge to their manhood. 182 00:09:02,629 --> 00:09:03,978 [grunting] 183 00:09:04,108 --> 00:09:06,197 This concept, it's inherently sexist. 184 00:09:06,328 --> 00:09:08,983 [gun firing] 185 00:09:09,113 --> 00:09:12,464 Because the women are in orbit around the men. 186 00:09:12,595 --> 00:09:14,597 - [Woman] Oh it looks so good. 187 00:09:14,728 --> 00:09:17,469 - As a writer, I've been in many situations 188 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,210 where a studio calls me and says, 189 00:09:19,341 --> 00:09:20,864 we want you to do a couple days 190 00:09:20,951 --> 00:09:23,737 of a pass on a movie with the female characters. 191 00:09:23,867 --> 00:09:26,130 I'm like, guys, that's not how it works. 192 00:09:26,261 --> 00:09:27,567 - Bringing a female writer 193 00:09:27,697 --> 00:09:30,308 to punch up the girlfriend character, that isn't enough. 194 00:09:30,439 --> 00:09:33,790 - I call that spackling, and I have come to realize 195 00:09:33,921 --> 00:09:36,314 that my job is really just to show up 196 00:09:36,401 --> 00:09:37,925 and spackle those cracks in. 197 00:09:38,055 --> 00:09:41,189 - Early in my career, I would take the girlfriend role 198 00:09:41,319 --> 00:09:44,235 and say, I'm gonna fuck this up 199 00:09:44,366 --> 00:09:47,064 and turn this inside out like a leech on a barbed wire 200 00:09:47,195 --> 00:09:49,110 and try and make something different out of it. 201 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,764 - Nine times out of 10, I'm gonna give you something 202 00:09:50,894 --> 00:09:54,594 so multidimensional, because I know what I'm bringing in 203 00:09:54,724 --> 00:09:59,250 is much deeper than the words they put on that page. 204 00:09:59,337 --> 00:10:01,122 - Please, come on now. 205 00:10:01,209 --> 00:10:02,253 What about Billy? 206 00:10:05,648 --> 00:10:07,607 - I'm not taking him with me. 207 00:10:07,737 --> 00:10:11,306 In Kramer vs. Kramer, I was representing a woman 208 00:10:11,436 --> 00:10:15,615 who had left a child because she was undergoing 209 00:10:15,745 --> 00:10:17,921 psychological problems. 210 00:10:19,531 --> 00:10:22,709 The writer and the director and my costar 211 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:25,494 all were putting their heads to what would she say, 212 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:28,540 what would she say, what could she possibly say? 213 00:10:28,671 --> 00:10:29,803 I anticipated this whole thing. 214 00:10:29,933 --> 00:10:31,456 - Okay, look, I don't wanna get into this. 215 00:10:31,587 --> 00:10:32,457 You're gonna have to do what you're gonna have to do, 216 00:10:32,588 --> 00:10:33,720 and I'm gonna have to do what I'm gonna-- 217 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:34,416 - All right, I'm very sorry about this. 218 00:10:35,591 --> 00:10:38,333 We all went into our rooms. 219 00:10:38,463 --> 00:10:40,030 Each of us wrote our version 220 00:10:40,161 --> 00:10:42,424 of how she would defend this decision. 221 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:46,341 And it was easy for me to write that 222 00:10:46,471 --> 00:10:48,735 because I could empathize. 223 00:10:48,865 --> 00:10:51,215 I had to believe that it was the only thing I could do. 224 00:10:54,479 --> 00:10:56,438 And that it was the best thing for him. 225 00:10:56,568 --> 00:10:59,702 I was incapable of functioning in that home. 226 00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:02,183 But where the story was located, 227 00:11:02,313 --> 00:11:04,272 - How does it feel? 228 00:11:04,402 --> 00:11:08,232 - was in the head and in the heart of its male protagonist. 229 00:11:10,626 --> 00:11:15,239 And what she thought was, oh, we'll ask the actress. 230 00:11:17,459 --> 00:11:20,375 - Imagine you're a woman in the theater and this movie, 231 00:11:20,505 --> 00:11:24,118 that even though there are 50% of you occupy the world, 232 00:11:24,205 --> 00:11:25,859 this movie's not made for you. 233 00:11:25,989 --> 00:11:28,165 [suspenseful music] 234 00:11:28,296 --> 00:11:31,647 One of the reasons I don't watch a lot of films of mine 235 00:11:31,778 --> 00:11:34,868 is because you see yourself through the eyes 236 00:11:34,998 --> 00:11:36,783 of the male camera operator, 237 00:11:36,913 --> 00:11:40,612 and you see yourself through the eyes of the male director. 238 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:43,659 When I think I'm acting, it's really panning across my ass. 239 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:45,661 Weather advisory, if you're gonna go outside, 240 00:11:45,792 --> 00:11:47,315 bring a paddle. [water dripping] 241 00:11:47,445 --> 00:11:48,577 - I don't know what my life would have been like 242 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:50,013 if you guys hadn't moved here. 243 00:11:50,144 --> 00:11:52,929 I came out to L.A. and I met a woman agent 244 00:11:53,016 --> 00:11:55,802 who said to me, this business is about tits and ass, 245 00:11:55,932 --> 00:11:58,021 which you have neither of. 246 00:11:58,152 --> 00:12:01,024 [light music] 247 00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:03,331 - Imagine, as a man, people really wanting 248 00:12:03,418 --> 00:12:05,899 to look at your body when they see you, 249 00:12:07,204 --> 00:12:08,510 and look at your clothes, 250 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,991 and look at your hair and your eyes. 251 00:12:11,121 --> 00:12:14,081 Just the thought exercise of going through your whole life 252 00:12:14,211 --> 00:12:17,214 knowing that the way your body is shaped matters more 253 00:12:17,345 --> 00:12:19,260 to the world than what you're thinking about. 254 00:12:21,218 --> 00:12:23,655 - We definitely internalize the representations of women 255 00:12:23,786 --> 00:12:27,094 on screen when we're young girls. 256 00:12:27,181 --> 00:12:29,531 It's important first and foremost 257 00:12:29,661 --> 00:12:33,709 to have men see you in a certain way. 258 00:12:35,145 --> 00:12:37,408 I definitely felt from a very young age 259 00:12:37,539 --> 00:12:42,152 that you're being turned into an object, 260 00:12:43,719 --> 00:12:46,417 as opposed to how do I look at the world, 261 00:12:46,548 --> 00:12:49,943 what do you desire, what do you want? 262 00:12:50,073 --> 00:12:52,336 That's the big mental shift 263 00:12:52,467 --> 00:12:56,601 that I wish I had when I was a kid. 264 00:12:56,732 --> 00:12:59,430 [light music] 265 00:12:59,561 --> 00:13:01,432 - I created my own production company, Freckle Films, 266 00:13:01,563 --> 00:13:05,480 and one thing I've realized that I'm eliminating 267 00:13:05,610 --> 00:13:07,961 is the description of female characters. 268 00:13:08,091 --> 00:13:11,399 - Dr. Jones, 35, bitchy, 269 00:13:11,529 --> 00:13:12,356 she's pretty but she doesn't know it, 270 00:13:12,487 --> 00:13:14,794 or she's slightly over the hill. 271 00:13:16,752 --> 00:13:20,669 - When you are working with writers of a lesser ability, 272 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,019 the lesser intelligence, actually, 273 00:13:23,106 --> 00:13:26,109 then they're gonna define women by their hair color. 274 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,853 - Here I go again, feisty, sexy, hot, hot tempered. 275 00:13:33,377 --> 00:13:35,379 - We have been otherized by men, 276 00:13:35,510 --> 00:13:37,338 really to be able to allow men 277 00:13:37,468 --> 00:13:39,862 to give birth to their own subjectivity. 278 00:13:39,993 --> 00:13:41,864 - It's a system and a structure 279 00:13:41,995 --> 00:13:44,693 that has long stacked the odds against us, 280 00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:47,261 so we've been written out of a lot of spaces. 281 00:13:47,391 --> 00:13:50,699 - Growing up, I never saw anyone that represented me 282 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,441 or looked like me, or wow, I wanna be like her. 283 00:13:53,571 --> 00:13:56,705 This is a day in the life for the people. 284 00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:58,446 When I tried to get an agent, 285 00:13:58,533 --> 00:14:00,230 they didn't know where to place me. 286 00:14:00,361 --> 00:14:01,579 They're like, okay, you're Latina, 287 00:14:01,666 --> 00:14:04,060 but you don't look Mexican. 288 00:14:04,191 --> 00:14:05,409 And I'm not like, I'm not though. 289 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:08,848 - Give me my change, get the food! 290 00:14:08,978 --> 00:14:12,112 After I did Baby Boy, every role I got was hood. 291 00:14:12,242 --> 00:14:14,505 This girl, waa, waa, waa, waa, waa. 292 00:14:14,592 --> 00:14:17,421 I'm a trained actress, and here I am 293 00:14:17,552 --> 00:14:18,901 getting offered ghetto roles. 294 00:14:19,032 --> 00:14:21,469 [laughing] Whatever, okay. 295 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:25,603 So I never judged it, but I wasn't gonna stereotype myself 296 00:14:25,734 --> 00:14:27,388 and continue to take those roles. 297 00:14:27,518 --> 00:14:29,651 And yes, I had to work, but I had to be strategic, 298 00:14:29,781 --> 00:14:31,783 because I saw a bigger picture for myself. 299 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,351 [light music] 300 00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:42,185 - 90% of the content that I would digest through media 301 00:14:42,316 --> 00:14:46,189 puts me as a sidekick or as the girl next door 302 00:14:46,276 --> 00:14:48,931 because of the color of my skin or my sex. 303 00:14:49,062 --> 00:14:51,455 - I felt for a while that I had to fit myself 304 00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:52,979 into some sort of conception 305 00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:55,372 of what it meant to be a black woman, 306 00:14:55,503 --> 00:14:57,505 instead of realizing that there is 307 00:14:57,635 --> 00:15:00,073 so much diversity within that identity. 308 00:15:00,203 --> 00:15:01,291 - If you don't drop these macho attitudes, 309 00:15:01,422 --> 00:15:03,511 you are never gonna have anybody bringing you anything 310 00:15:03,641 --> 00:15:05,382 anywhere, any place, anytime, ever. 311 00:15:05,556 --> 00:15:08,081 - Cosby and The Jeffersons ♪ Movin' on up ♪ 312 00:15:08,168 --> 00:15:09,473 ♪ Movin' on up ♪ 313 00:15:09,604 --> 00:15:11,911 was the only ones where they was doin' all right in life. 314 00:15:12,085 --> 00:15:14,609 ♪ Good times ♪ 315 00:15:14,739 --> 00:15:16,263 Good Times, they sufferin'. 316 00:15:16,393 --> 00:15:18,526 I don't wanna live that life. 317 00:15:18,656 --> 00:15:21,442 What's Happening, they were strugglin'. 318 00:15:21,529 --> 00:15:23,270 Dang, is it all bad? 319 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,229 [Dynasty theme song] 320 00:15:26,316 --> 00:15:29,015 And then I remember watchin' Dynasty 321 00:15:29,145 --> 00:15:32,801 and a black woman shows up, and it's Diahann Carroll. 322 00:15:34,672 --> 00:15:36,109 - What do you want? 323 00:15:36,239 --> 00:15:38,198 - It's the first time I see a black woman with money, 324 00:15:38,328 --> 00:15:40,722 wearin' diamonds, she's havin' conversations 325 00:15:40,852 --> 00:15:42,985 with white women like she not even black. 326 00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:45,509 - Retract this or I'll cram it down your throat. 327 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,902 - Will ya? 328 00:15:47,033 --> 00:15:49,296 - She slapped this white woman so hard. 329 00:15:49,426 --> 00:15:53,039 And they was wrestling, and I was like, what? 330 00:15:53,169 --> 00:15:55,258 And she didn't even go to jail. 331 00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:57,130 [suspenseful music] 332 00:15:57,260 --> 00:16:00,394 That's when I started thinkin', oh, I could be anything. 333 00:16:00,524 --> 00:16:03,136 [laughing] 334 00:16:03,223 --> 00:16:05,573 - The Joy Luck Club was the first time 335 00:16:05,703 --> 00:16:09,316 I saw myself and my mother on screen. 336 00:16:09,446 --> 00:16:11,753 - You don't know the power you have over me. 337 00:16:11,883 --> 00:16:14,669 - It impacted me so deeply emotionally, 338 00:16:14,799 --> 00:16:18,151 way beyond what the content of the film was. 339 00:16:18,281 --> 00:16:20,805 - Four years old, I could cry myself to sleep. 340 00:16:20,936 --> 00:16:23,591 - Seeing and experiencing for the first time 341 00:16:23,678 --> 00:16:28,291 all that storytelling that I thought was mine, was not mine. 342 00:16:30,902 --> 00:16:32,774 - It's devastating when a little girl 343 00:16:32,861 --> 00:16:34,602 doesn't see herself on screen. 344 00:16:34,689 --> 00:16:37,866 I've been one of those little girls looking for myself. 345 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:40,825 You start to believe that there is something wrong with you. 346 00:16:40,956 --> 00:16:42,740 - It just sort of fucks with your psyche. 347 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:44,046 You're like, I think I exist, 348 00:16:44,177 --> 00:16:47,180 why aren't I reflected back at what I see? 349 00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:49,573 - There's also a shame that starts to come in. 350 00:16:49,704 --> 00:16:54,230 I must not be worthy to be seen or I don't feel that way, 351 00:16:55,405 --> 00:16:56,972 so what I'm feeling must be wrong. 352 00:16:59,931 --> 00:17:02,630 - If we only show one perspective, 353 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,070 it means that we don't take seriously 354 00:17:08,201 --> 00:17:10,594 every human being's right 355 00:17:10,725 --> 00:17:14,250 to understand the world from their perspective. 356 00:17:16,078 --> 00:17:18,733 If you imagine this as the mirror 357 00:17:18,863 --> 00:17:22,258 and you reflect life from this perspective, 358 00:17:22,389 --> 00:17:24,478 it will be really different if you put the mirror 359 00:17:24,608 --> 00:17:26,697 from this angle instead. 360 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:30,788 [gasping] 361 00:17:30,919 --> 00:17:33,269 - There is the need for more films 362 00:17:33,356 --> 00:17:37,099 to come out of the voices of women and what they want, 363 00:17:37,230 --> 00:17:39,754 and what they value, and what excites them, 364 00:17:39,884 --> 00:17:41,582 and what terrifies them, 365 00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:44,019 and makes them move through the world. 366 00:17:46,848 --> 00:17:50,895 - There is a different way to look at stories about women 367 00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:55,161 or stories from the point of view of a woman. 368 00:17:55,291 --> 00:17:56,814 Our camera placement is different 369 00:17:56,945 --> 00:17:59,252 because our gaze is different. 370 00:18:00,992 --> 00:18:03,343 - You wanna try to imagine narratives 371 00:18:03,473 --> 00:18:05,475 in which women don't need to be rescued, 372 00:18:06,998 --> 00:18:09,784 to try to figure out how to tell new stories. 373 00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:11,786 [crowd cheering] 374 00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:14,876 - What more incredible, specific, passionate filmmaking 375 00:18:15,006 --> 00:18:17,966 would we be getting if all of kinds of people were doing it? 376 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:22,057 - Like people with disabilities, 377 00:18:22,144 --> 00:18:25,278 or people who are sexual minorities. 378 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,325 - Everybody has a nuanced experience, 379 00:18:29,456 --> 00:18:31,936 whether that's a young black woman 380 00:18:32,067 --> 00:18:35,026 who is dealing with being a part of generation Z, 381 00:18:35,157 --> 00:18:37,072 being in a certain socioeconomic class, 382 00:18:37,203 --> 00:18:39,553 or being alive in the 21st century 383 00:18:39,683 --> 00:18:41,772 in which the culture that we're consuming 384 00:18:41,903 --> 00:18:43,992 is such an amalgamation of other cultures. 385 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:49,737 [light dramatic music] 386 00:18:49,867 --> 00:18:52,696 - Women have been paving this path, 387 00:18:52,827 --> 00:18:54,872 pushing up against the status quo, 388 00:18:56,613 --> 00:18:59,355 changing how we see ourselves 389 00:19:01,096 --> 00:19:05,448 so that there's an expanded idea of what you can choose 390 00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:08,799 and how you can have agency in your own life 391 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:11,628 so that your path is not laid out by the structure 392 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:14,240 that was put in place way before you got here. 393 00:19:18,505 --> 00:19:21,725 - Imagine having the kind of protagonism as a woman. 394 00:19:24,728 --> 00:19:26,774 - [Girl] I'm the princess. 395 00:19:26,904 --> 00:19:28,254 [scoffing] 396 00:19:28,384 --> 00:19:31,126 I'm the example. [apple crunching] 397 00:19:31,257 --> 00:19:34,782 - When I had the opportunity to create Brave 398 00:19:34,912 --> 00:19:37,393 and the character of Merida, 399 00:19:37,524 --> 00:19:39,221 I purposely went for a princess 400 00:19:39,352 --> 00:19:40,918 just so that I could throw the princess thing 401 00:19:41,049 --> 00:19:43,530 on its head and not the typical. 402 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:44,357 [horse running] 403 00:19:44,487 --> 00:19:46,228 - Get back, that's my mother! 404 00:19:46,315 --> 00:19:47,838 [man grunting] 405 00:19:47,969 --> 00:19:51,059 - Images are so powerful that it will impact real life. 406 00:19:52,713 --> 00:19:57,152 In 2012, my archery coach noticed that when both Brave 407 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:00,242 and The Hunger Games came out, 408 00:20:00,373 --> 00:20:03,463 suddenly the percentage of girls taking up archery 409 00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:10,034 shot up 105%, higher than adult men. 410 00:20:12,123 --> 00:20:14,691 [CSI theme song] 411 00:20:18,782 --> 00:20:20,741 - After you saw CSI, after you saw 412 00:20:20,871 --> 00:20:23,439 female forensic pathologists on screen, 413 00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:25,528 you saw the field of forensic pathology 414 00:20:25,659 --> 00:20:27,269 grow intensely, especially among women. 415 00:20:28,618 --> 00:20:30,316 - She shot back. 416 00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:35,669 I just kept seeing again and again girls who loved this show 417 00:20:35,756 --> 00:20:37,584 and it made my heart sing. 418 00:20:41,457 --> 00:20:44,939 And they are now half the workforce. 419 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,856 [light music] 420 00:21:00,563 --> 00:21:01,564 - When half of the filmmakers 421 00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:04,872 and the writers are allowed in, 422 00:21:05,002 --> 00:21:07,309 our cultural life will change. 423 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,659 It won't until that happens. 424 00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:18,015 - Since I was a little kid, for me, 425 00:21:18,146 --> 00:21:21,454 immortality came from what you create. 426 00:21:23,847 --> 00:21:26,807 When I saw Lina Wertmuller's Swept Away, 427 00:21:28,852 --> 00:21:32,378 I thought, I can do that. 428 00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:37,034 The passion caught hold of me in an absolutely complete way. 429 00:21:39,210 --> 00:21:43,693 I wanted to be a director because I wanted to have a voice. 430 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:49,699 I had a great experience in film school. 431 00:21:52,223 --> 00:21:56,140 There was about 50/50 male and female students. 432 00:21:56,271 --> 00:21:58,839 And then within a year of having graduated, 433 00:21:58,969 --> 00:22:02,277 I was shooting my first feature film in the UK. 434 00:22:02,408 --> 00:22:05,367 [crowd cheering] 435 00:22:05,498 --> 00:22:08,544 I came back to L.A. and was signed 436 00:22:08,675 --> 00:22:11,025 with a huge agent, William Morris. 437 00:22:11,112 --> 00:22:14,985 [cheering] - [Man] Absolutely Marvelous. 438 00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:18,032 - I was tied to screenplays, I signed contracts, 439 00:22:18,162 --> 00:22:22,819 I was in development on feature films, and then nothing. 440 00:22:26,388 --> 00:22:30,218 I started watching my male peers 441 00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:33,090 being celebrated and beloved filmmakers. 442 00:22:33,221 --> 00:22:34,222 - 10 Oscar nominations. 443 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:35,919 - Yes. - You've had a great 444 00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:36,877 [laughing] 445 00:22:37,007 --> 00:22:38,313 - I didn't see that happening 446 00:22:38,444 --> 00:22:40,489 for any of my women friends at all. 447 00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:45,451 - I did 265 episodes of CSI alone. 448 00:22:45,581 --> 00:22:49,411 I can count on one hand how many female directors we had. 449 00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:52,371 - Out of 30 or 40 directors that I worked with, 450 00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:54,416 I've probably worked with three female directors. 451 00:22:54,547 --> 00:22:58,202 - Before Grey's, I didn't work with any female directors. 452 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:00,640 - I've worked with two female directors on features, 453 00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:04,731 and one is myself. [chuckling] 454 00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:11,259 - As an assistant director from '78 until 2006, 455 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:15,916 I don't think I ever worked with a woman director. 456 00:23:16,046 --> 00:23:20,181 - We haven't been able to imagine women as artists 457 00:23:20,311 --> 00:23:22,575 across the board, and in Hollywood, 458 00:23:22,705 --> 00:23:26,100 that reflects in the writing and directing numbers. 459 00:23:27,275 --> 00:23:28,755 [light music] 460 00:23:28,885 --> 00:23:33,412 - From among the five gifted nominees tonight, 461 00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:38,242 the winner could be, for the first time, a woman. 462 00:23:48,165 --> 00:23:51,995 - Inclusion of women might change policy. 463 00:23:52,126 --> 00:23:54,476 They might change what's called great. 464 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:57,827 - What does good mean? 465 00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:59,873 Good means it resonates in the body of a man. 466 00:24:01,527 --> 00:24:03,137 When people are saying, I like this, 467 00:24:03,267 --> 00:24:05,705 they're saying, I see myself. 468 00:24:05,792 --> 00:24:07,097 So men are gonna feel that way 469 00:24:07,228 --> 00:24:09,186 when they see a myriad of male heroes. 470 00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:21,982 Most of the people writing the checks are men. 471 00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:23,505 Most of the people making distribution decisions are men, 472 00:24:23,636 --> 00:24:25,333 and most of the reviewers are men. 473 00:24:32,601 --> 00:24:34,734 [mystical music] 474 00:24:34,864 --> 00:24:37,040 - I need to know that I can come 475 00:24:37,171 --> 00:24:39,956 and hold onto where I come from. 476 00:24:40,087 --> 00:24:42,872 - With Daughters Of The Dust, I didn't wanna tell 477 00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:46,310 the same old story that's been told over and over again, 478 00:24:46,441 --> 00:24:50,140 especially about African-American women and our legacy. 479 00:24:59,976 --> 00:25:02,675 At the height of our distribution, we only had 13 prints. 480 00:25:09,986 --> 00:25:13,555 Among the filmmakers coming out that decade, 481 00:25:13,686 --> 00:25:15,862 I was pushed to the side. 482 00:25:15,992 --> 00:25:19,430 The curators of culture decided that Daughters Of The Dust 483 00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:22,695 did not fit their understanding 484 00:25:22,825 --> 00:25:25,262 of what an African American film should be. 485 00:25:25,393 --> 00:25:27,961 - [Man] In South Central L.A., 486 00:25:28,091 --> 00:25:29,919 it's tough to beat the streets. 487 00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:31,965 - Because they pick and choose who they wanna focus on. 488 00:25:32,139 --> 00:25:34,533 ♪ New Jack City ♪ 489 00:25:35,664 --> 00:25:37,666 - This is big business. 490 00:25:37,753 --> 00:25:40,060 - It's been shown, study after study, 491 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:44,804 that the male directed movies get bigger distribution, 492 00:25:44,934 --> 00:25:48,808 get on more screens, more advertising dollars spent. 493 00:25:48,938 --> 00:25:51,462 And then they get their second film easier, 494 00:25:51,593 --> 00:25:52,725 and then they get their third one, 495 00:25:52,855 --> 00:25:54,074 and their fourth one. 496 00:25:54,204 --> 00:25:56,511 - I have to admit to being radically naive. 497 00:25:56,642 --> 00:25:58,121 I said, well, I guess there's not 498 00:25:58,208 --> 00:26:00,210 sexism in Hollywood because look at me. 499 00:26:00,341 --> 00:26:00,994 Action! 500 00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:04,693 [light music] 501 00:26:04,824 --> 00:26:05,912 - One of the reasons I went to film school 502 00:26:06,042 --> 00:26:07,914 was because of Kimberly Peirce's Boys Don't Cry. 503 00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:11,047 That was such an incredibly powerful film. 504 00:26:18,925 --> 00:26:21,362 [uplifting music] 505 00:26:21,492 --> 00:26:24,234 - [Man] Hillary Swank in Boys Don't Cry. 506 00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:25,845 [audience applauding] 507 00:26:25,932 --> 00:26:27,324 - I wanna thank Kimberly Peirce 508 00:26:27,455 --> 00:26:32,591 for her fierce tenacity and vision. 509 00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:36,159 - Then I got the difficulty of getting the next project. 510 00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:44,254 - Women directors are hitting up against this ceiling 511 00:26:44,385 --> 00:26:47,214 at a point, at a critical point where they could jump from 512 00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:49,869 smaller stuff to really big stuff. 513 00:26:49,956 --> 00:26:52,785 - There's an assumption that men are gonna have 514 00:26:52,872 --> 00:26:56,484 an authoritative approach and women won't have 515 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,792 the wherewithal and the stamina to push through. 516 00:27:01,402 --> 00:27:02,751 - What we have is a culture that says 517 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:04,710 what directors should be is militant 518 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,450 and loud and aggressive, 519 00:27:06,581 --> 00:27:09,802 but directing doesn't require a specific temperament, 520 00:27:09,889 --> 00:27:11,934 it takes every single kind of person. 521 00:27:12,065 --> 00:27:13,632 - [Man] After count, we'll go again right away. 522 00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:16,112 - I've never seen a female camera operator. 523 00:27:16,243 --> 00:27:18,549 We're touching them like, oh my god, you really exist. 524 00:27:19,812 --> 00:27:22,684 Something's very wrong with that. 525 00:27:22,815 --> 00:27:26,862 - I started when I was 14 and there would be 150 men on set 526 00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:29,473 and I'd be the only woman. 527 00:27:29,604 --> 00:27:32,433 No women sometimes in wardrobe, 528 00:27:32,563 --> 00:27:34,522 in the art department, in anything. 529 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:37,873 - That's a lot of male energy. 530 00:27:38,004 --> 00:27:40,310 I've had directors who have said 531 00:27:40,441 --> 00:27:43,139 that I need to sit on their laps to get direction. 532 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:45,533 Who call me to the set and if I won't sit on their lap, 533 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,404 I was sent back to my trailer. 534 00:27:47,535 --> 00:27:50,581 And I said, does Tom Hanks sit on your lap? 535 00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:55,630 [light music] 536 00:27:55,761 --> 00:28:00,766 - People in power for years have tried to divide and conquer 537 00:28:01,897 --> 00:28:04,552 actresses in order to victimize 538 00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:08,034 and manipulate and abuse them. 539 00:28:13,256 --> 00:28:15,868 - To protect yourself on set is not an easy thing 540 00:28:15,998 --> 00:28:18,087 because no one else is gonna come to your aid, 541 00:28:18,218 --> 00:28:20,176 no one else is gonna defend you. 542 00:28:20,263 --> 00:28:22,222 There is no recourse, there's no human resources department, 543 00:28:22,352 --> 00:28:24,006 there's nobody there. 544 00:28:24,137 --> 00:28:26,661 - Not everybody has the safety net to say, 545 00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:28,576 hey, I can speak out about this and know 546 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,448 that I can still get work in the field that I love. 547 00:28:31,579 --> 00:28:34,277 - There's often a lot of distance between us 548 00:28:34,408 --> 00:28:37,977 because we're all navigating a very treacherous industry. 549 00:28:38,107 --> 00:28:39,935 We don't learn to call each other 550 00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:42,851 and lean upon each other and create community. 551 00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:49,553 - A lot of my energy is spent on 552 00:28:49,684 --> 00:28:51,642 when can I ask this question, 553 00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:56,647 how am I going to ask for what I need in order to feel safe? 554 00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:01,174 - Part of sexism and racism is like stay in your place, 555 00:29:01,304 --> 00:29:05,569 stay in your lane, shut up, be happy with what you've got, 556 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,398 and so we're all siloed off. 557 00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:10,400 And you don't tell people what your fears are 558 00:29:10,487 --> 00:29:12,707 because then they know where your vulnerable spaces are. 559 00:29:16,102 --> 00:29:17,538 - What happens to female directors 560 00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:20,149 is they walk into a completely male environment, 561 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,890 and so they have to make those jokes, 562 00:29:22,021 --> 00:29:23,979 and so they have to do that [sucking air] 563 00:29:24,066 --> 00:29:25,851 little thing every morning, which means you cannot 564 00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:29,463 truly operate from your own perspective 565 00:29:29,593 --> 00:29:31,073 and see things through a different lens. 566 00:29:31,204 --> 00:29:34,381 - She has to be [sucking air] 567 00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:38,472 a gymnast and a diplomat and somebody's mother. 568 00:29:38,602 --> 00:29:39,908 - I've seen female directors 569 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,389 treated really badly, really badly. 570 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,522 [fire crackling] [ominous music] 571 00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:48,612 - When I was 15, I did Carrie. 572 00:29:48,743 --> 00:29:49,918 That movie was directed by Kim Peirce, 573 00:29:50,049 --> 00:29:52,747 who was my first female director. 574 00:29:52,834 --> 00:29:55,794 But it was a massively male crew. 575 00:29:57,491 --> 00:29:59,449 - I was being talked to and treated 576 00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,322 and questioned constantly and differently. 577 00:30:04,063 --> 00:30:05,412 - The biggest part of the movie 578 00:30:05,542 --> 00:30:06,892 is when she gets her period for the first time in the shower 579 00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:08,807 and she doesn't know it's her period 580 00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:11,810 because she had never been taught that from her mother. 581 00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:14,247 To have these conversations with men who were saying, 582 00:30:14,377 --> 00:30:15,814 well, I don't think you should depict that way, 583 00:30:15,944 --> 00:30:17,467 and I think you should depict it this way, 584 00:30:17,598 --> 00:30:20,862 and Kim and I sitting there going, well, respectfully, 585 00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:23,212 I don't think you know what you're talking about. 586 00:30:25,084 --> 00:30:27,347 That was just the first time where I was ever like, 587 00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:31,699 I guess men don't see us women equal in this industry. 588 00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:35,442 [light music] 589 00:30:35,572 --> 00:30:36,791 - When you have a huge success 590 00:30:36,922 --> 00:30:38,619 and then your career doesn't go where it ought to go 591 00:30:38,706 --> 00:30:40,403 and you see the men failing upward 592 00:30:40,534 --> 00:30:41,709 and you're succeeding downward, 593 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,842 don't you think that everyday you wake up 594 00:30:43,972 --> 00:30:46,932 and say this is my life, maybe this isn't good enough, 595 00:30:47,019 --> 00:30:48,629 maybe I should go do something 596 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,283 where there aren't all these obstacles against me 597 00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:52,720 because I'm a really talented creative human being 598 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:55,723 and I love working and you're stopping my right to work. 599 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,551 I may not have the energy 600 00:30:57,681 --> 00:31:00,249 to do this every single day, to fight this fight. 601 00:31:07,169 --> 00:31:11,826 - It is appalling in terms of how much women's work 602 00:31:13,349 --> 00:31:15,569 and also women's roles and women's films 603 00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:17,658 actually are contributing to the box office, 604 00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:19,703 just sheerly on a commercial level. 605 00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:23,577 [ominous music] 606 00:31:34,501 --> 00:31:38,635 - Whenever the press announces: this changes everything, 607 00:31:38,766 --> 00:31:41,595 I'm a little skeptical. 608 00:31:43,727 --> 00:31:46,295 That was supposed to happen after Thelma & Louise came out. 609 00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:49,951 - Things have changed, everything's changed. 610 00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:52,040 - Thelma & Louise you went, that's it, 611 00:31:52,171 --> 00:31:54,173 the whole industry's gonna change. 612 00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:55,739 Oh my god, of course we're gonna make 613 00:31:55,826 --> 00:31:57,611 all these female empowerment films. 614 00:31:57,741 --> 00:31:59,221 - It didn't change anything. 615 00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:01,397 ♪ Ba ba ba ba ♪ 616 00:32:01,528 --> 00:32:03,922 - The First Wives Club beat the biggest action movie, 617 00:32:04,009 --> 00:32:06,576 but Twilight series comes out, or Mean Girls, or Clueless, 618 00:32:06,663 --> 00:32:08,404 - Uh, as if! 619 00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:11,668 - So you go, well of course, this is the new paradigm. 620 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:13,627 - Even when I started directing, 621 00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:16,195 there was this sense that it was getting better. 622 00:32:16,282 --> 00:32:18,414 - Occasionally there's a bump, 623 00:32:18,545 --> 00:32:21,504 but that's not systemic change. 624 00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:23,985 - Frozen changes everything. 625 00:32:24,116 --> 00:32:28,729 Hidden Figures, come on, it made so much money, and nothing. 626 00:32:30,513 --> 00:32:32,689 - And then we go back, so I don't understand it. 627 00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:35,214 - We need to look at the history 628 00:32:35,344 --> 00:32:37,956 to see what kinds of things have continued 629 00:32:38,086 --> 00:32:41,220 and thus been perpetuated without any thought. 630 00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:44,571 - The contrast with what it was like for women 631 00:32:44,701 --> 00:32:47,617 when movies were beginning is extraordinary. 632 00:32:48,705 --> 00:32:51,491 [uplifting music] 633 00:32:55,930 --> 00:33:00,761 - The silent era is full of women writing, directing, 634 00:33:00,891 --> 00:33:03,459 producing, owning their own companies. 635 00:33:05,461 --> 00:33:08,508 Film when it was born was not gender specific. 636 00:33:10,292 --> 00:33:13,165 - They really promote the industry as a business 637 00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:16,951 that's really wide open to ambitious pioneering women. 638 00:33:18,387 --> 00:33:22,000 There were more women directing films 639 00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:23,566 then is still the case. 640 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,050 - Lois Weber was one of 641 00:33:29,137 --> 00:33:31,574 the three great directors of early Hollywood. 642 00:33:33,315 --> 00:33:34,577 She was considered a peer 643 00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:38,016 of D.W. Griffith and Cecil B. DeMille. 644 00:33:38,146 --> 00:33:42,237 By 1916, Lois Weber is Universal's highest paid director. 645 00:33:42,368 --> 00:33:44,457 And when she forms her own independent production company 646 00:33:44,587 --> 00:33:47,503 in 1917, she signs a deal with Paramount, 647 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:49,592 which is the most lucrative in the industry. 648 00:33:51,116 --> 00:33:54,467 - The vast majority of the writers were female, 649 00:33:54,597 --> 00:33:56,904 writing in ways that played into 650 00:33:56,991 --> 00:33:59,776 the feminist sensibility of the period. 651 00:34:02,214 --> 00:34:04,825 Women were entering the workforce 652 00:34:04,955 --> 00:34:06,522 in greater numbers than every before. 653 00:34:13,138 --> 00:34:13,747 - [Woman] No! 654 00:34:15,314 --> 00:34:16,489 - [Man] Did he tell you that he loved you? 655 00:34:16,619 --> 00:34:19,709 - [Woman] No, yes, of course he did. 656 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,669 - I want you to tell me exactly what happened. 657 00:34:22,799 --> 00:34:23,974 - When sound technology arrives, 658 00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:25,889 the industry is transformed. 659 00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:30,198 - You had to shoot inside. 660 00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:31,808 - [Man] Here are several of the big stages 661 00:34:31,939 --> 00:34:33,419 to take of capacity production. 662 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:36,030 - [Woman] You're now going to have a system. 663 00:34:36,161 --> 00:34:40,252 - Hollywood needs financial support to invest in technology, 664 00:34:40,382 --> 00:34:44,995 to redo theaters, so banks invest heavily in Hollywood. 665 00:34:46,867 --> 00:34:50,262 - Now you're linking yourself to a male moneyed hierarchy. 666 00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,004 [light solemn music] 667 00:34:54,135 --> 00:34:57,834 - The studios begin controlling the exhibition market. 668 00:34:57,965 --> 00:35:00,098 They shut out a lot of women who had independent companies, 669 00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:01,882 African-American filmmakers, 670 00:35:02,012 --> 00:35:04,232 and they really consolidated power. 671 00:35:06,016 --> 00:35:08,845 They stop hiring women as directors, 672 00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:11,152 so women's voices are no longer valued. 673 00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:14,112 [background chattering] 674 00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,983 - As soon as the job becomes really important 675 00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:19,160 and moneymaking, it suddenly becomes a man's job. 676 00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:21,031 [horn blaring] 677 00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:23,904 - The identity of a director as male, 678 00:35:23,991 --> 00:35:25,558 or of a cinematographer as male, 679 00:35:25,688 --> 00:35:28,169 doesn't get set until the unions really come in. 680 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:32,260 Unions fought very rigorously to keep women members out. 681 00:35:32,391 --> 00:35:34,523 To be fair to them, what that often meant 682 00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:36,482 was lower pay, lower respect. 683 00:35:38,179 --> 00:35:42,749 - The work that so many women did was erased for decades. 684 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:52,237 The only woman directing for a major studio 685 00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:54,282 in the 1930s is Dorothy Arzner. 686 00:35:59,331 --> 00:36:02,638 The Director's Guild of America was formed in 1936. 687 00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:06,860 - The DGA was founded by all men. 688 00:36:11,473 --> 00:36:12,431 - [Woman] And Dorothy Arzner, 689 00:36:12,561 --> 00:36:13,823 she's the only female director 690 00:36:13,954 --> 00:36:17,349 in the DGA for well over a decade, 691 00:36:17,479 --> 00:36:19,829 until Ida Lupino joins in the late 40s. 692 00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:25,835 [rain falling] 693 00:36:25,966 --> 00:36:30,362 - For us to accomplish gender equity in our storytelling, 694 00:36:30,492 --> 00:36:34,148 we need to look at all of the various systemic mechanisms 695 00:36:34,279 --> 00:36:35,845 that have been holding women back. 696 00:36:39,153 --> 00:36:41,286 I started to do a great deal of research 697 00:36:41,416 --> 00:36:46,073 into the history of workplace discrimination in Hollywood. 698 00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:49,903 - Hollywood has never had a mechanism 699 00:36:50,033 --> 00:36:53,646 to regulate discrimination, and Hollywood has actually 700 00:36:53,776 --> 00:36:57,954 always tried to maintain self regulation. 701 00:36:58,085 --> 00:37:01,044 - That really does open the door 702 00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:02,698 for all kinds of discrimination. 703 00:37:08,574 --> 00:37:11,533 - The Civil Rights Act of '64 had many parts. 704 00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:15,015 The part that I was most involved with was Title VII. 705 00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:17,713 [dramatic music] 706 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,372 That is the title that created 707 00:37:24,503 --> 00:37:26,461 the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. 708 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:35,731 The EEOC was created to look out for the rights of people 709 00:37:36,732 --> 00:37:38,386 in the field of employment. 710 00:37:41,389 --> 00:37:46,002 In 1969, we would send our investigators into the studios. 711 00:37:49,571 --> 00:37:53,009 We found a pattern of practice of discrimination. 712 00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:59,015 We referred to the Justice Department 713 00:37:59,102 --> 00:38:01,191 to do an investigation. 714 00:38:01,322 --> 00:38:03,324 Congress didn't take kindly to it. 715 00:38:03,455 --> 00:38:05,108 - We've gotten to the point now 716 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,417 where either this punitive harassment is gonna stop 717 00:38:09,548 --> 00:38:12,725 or I'm going to the highest authority 718 00:38:12,855 --> 00:38:16,816 in this government to get somebody fired. 719 00:38:16,903 --> 00:38:20,907 - The Nixon administration was ready to put the ax to me. 720 00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:24,258 I beat them by resigning. 721 00:38:26,478 --> 00:38:30,786 Nixon got his way, he got this loudmouth black boy out. 722 00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:36,705 The whole issue of discrimination against women 723 00:38:36,836 --> 00:38:40,535 was hurt by the permissiveness of federal government 724 00:38:40,622 --> 00:38:42,407 allowing the movie industry 725 00:38:42,494 --> 00:38:44,496 to do what that hell it wanted to do. 726 00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:53,418 - There's a direct connection 727 00:38:53,548 --> 00:38:55,594 between the number of women behind the scenes 728 00:38:55,724 --> 00:38:57,247 and the number of people of color behind the scenes, 729 00:38:57,378 --> 00:39:00,773 and how that translates into gender and race biases 730 00:39:00,860 --> 00:39:02,992 on the big screen and little screen. 731 00:39:03,123 --> 00:39:06,779 - We're sending really wrong messages, 732 00:39:06,909 --> 00:39:09,782 not only to girls, but to boys as well. 733 00:39:14,177 --> 00:39:16,571 - [Man] That was beautiful! 734 00:39:16,658 --> 00:39:19,313 [puppets chattering] 735 00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:20,401 - [Geena] When my daughter was about two, 736 00:39:20,532 --> 00:39:22,882 I started watching little kid stuff with her. 737 00:39:22,969 --> 00:39:24,710 - See, I'm thinking of becoming a doctor, Burt. 738 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,189 - Really? - Mm-hm. 739 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,063 - I immediately noticed there were far fewer characters 740 00:39:30,193 --> 00:39:31,978 that were female than male. 741 00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:32,979 - Really? 742 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:33,980 - I was stunned. 743 00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:35,024 [screaming] 744 00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,287 - What are you shrieking about? 745 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,639 - [Smurf] Whoa, take it down a notch, my blues brothers. 746 00:39:40,726 --> 00:39:45,383 - I realized girls are being seriously shortchanged. 747 00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:47,689 They're not doing half of 748 00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:49,778 the interesting or important things. 749 00:39:49,909 --> 00:39:51,127 - May I get you absolutely anything 750 00:39:51,258 --> 00:39:52,825 in the world you could possibly want? 751 00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:54,087 - [Geena] They don't have occupations. 752 00:39:54,217 --> 00:39:56,437 - He loves me, I knew it! 753 00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:58,874 - Or, they're not there at all. 754 00:40:01,224 --> 00:40:06,186 We're saying that they are less valuable than men and boys. 755 00:40:06,316 --> 00:40:09,058 - Why hello, ladies, you ready to lose? 756 00:40:09,189 --> 00:40:11,974 - You pillow fight like a bunch of little girls. 757 00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:15,456 - [Geena] We're teaching them that girls and women 758 00:40:15,543 --> 00:40:18,372 don't take up half of the space in the world. 759 00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:21,027 We're teaching boys that girls are less important. 760 00:40:21,157 --> 00:40:21,897 - You wouldn't hit a woman. 761 00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:23,290 - That's a woman? 762 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,074 - To see girls as second class citizens. 763 00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:27,468 [screaming] 764 00:40:29,383 --> 00:40:31,429 We're like, oh, how come Congress isn't half women? 765 00:40:32,517 --> 00:40:33,866 CEOs and all this, 766 00:40:33,996 --> 00:40:35,998 how are we gonna get more women on boards? 767 00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:41,830 Progress for women stalls out between like 15 and 20% 768 00:40:42,918 --> 00:40:44,224 in so many different sectors. 769 00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:46,705 Could it be that we're training people 770 00:40:46,792 --> 00:40:53,451 to see groups of people with only 17% women as normal? 771 00:41:01,067 --> 00:41:04,070 Whenever I had a meeting in Hollywood, I'd say, 772 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,507 have you ever noticed how few female characters 773 00:41:06,638 --> 00:41:08,901 there are in movies made for kids? 774 00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:13,253 Every single person said, oh, no, no, no, 775 00:41:13,383 --> 00:41:16,561 that's not true anymore, that's been fixed. 776 00:41:16,648 --> 00:41:20,173 Nobody I talked to was seeing the problem that I was seeing. 777 00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:21,827 So that's when I decided, 778 00:41:21,957 --> 00:41:25,483 if I'm gonna change this, I need the data. 779 00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:28,050 [light music] 780 00:41:39,279 --> 00:41:41,368 - Geena commissioned one of the largest studies 781 00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:44,502 on children's media that had ever been done. 782 00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:48,854 - It took two years. 783 00:41:50,551 --> 00:41:54,512 - It was the first study of its kind. 784 00:41:54,642 --> 00:41:58,341 - It's amazing that she went and did that homework 785 00:41:58,472 --> 00:41:59,952 and then served it all up, 786 00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:01,780 and then it's irrefutable evidence. 787 00:42:16,142 --> 00:42:19,449 - The data driven case of this has really take away 788 00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:21,582 that question of is there a problem? 789 00:42:21,713 --> 00:42:24,846 - You can't say, she's just being hysterical, 790 00:42:24,977 --> 00:42:27,545 or god, she's just a bitch whining about this, 791 00:42:27,675 --> 00:42:29,198 if you have numbers. 792 00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:35,335 - [Geena] My scheme was to go 793 00:42:35,422 --> 00:42:38,556 to the people creating the media. 794 00:42:38,686 --> 00:42:40,166 I had no idea how they were gonna react. 795 00:42:41,776 --> 00:42:43,169 - She came when I was an executive at Disney 796 00:42:43,299 --> 00:42:45,388 and said in something like Finding Nemo, 797 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,304 they're all fish but most of them are men. 798 00:42:48,435 --> 00:42:49,218 - He looks funny. [slapping effect] 799 00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:50,263 Ow! 800 00:42:50,393 --> 00:42:51,699 - It was a huge eye opener 801 00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,962 and nobody had pointed it out before. 802 00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:57,313 The work that she's done has had an enormous impact on me. 803 00:43:00,273 --> 00:43:02,492 - Without further ado, please welcome 804 00:43:02,623 --> 00:43:04,582 our commander in chief, Geena Davis. 805 00:43:04,712 --> 00:43:06,192 [audience applauding] 806 00:43:06,322 --> 00:43:08,150 - There's one area of inequality 807 00:43:08,237 --> 00:43:11,893 that can be changed overnight, and that's on screen. 808 00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:17,464 Data turns out to be the magic bullet in this case 809 00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:21,468 because the bias is unconscious. 810 00:43:22,861 --> 00:43:25,428 - The first time that I saw the numbers, 811 00:43:25,515 --> 00:43:26,995 I have to say they were shocking, 812 00:43:27,126 --> 00:43:31,478 and I'm someone who knows that we're not doing a great job. 813 00:43:33,393 --> 00:43:36,744 Being passive on this issue is not good enough anymore. 814 00:43:38,354 --> 00:43:41,444 At the script stage, I go through and look, 815 00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:43,533 do I now have enough women? 816 00:43:43,664 --> 00:43:45,666 You have to actively get to the place 817 00:43:45,797 --> 00:43:48,582 where you put that as a part of your system. 818 00:43:48,713 --> 00:43:50,671 - You have to instill the writing team, 819 00:43:50,758 --> 00:43:54,501 the producers, everybody, with an awareness of it. 820 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:57,896 - The ratio of male to female characters in film 821 00:43:58,026 --> 00:44:02,683 has been exactly the same since 1946. 822 00:44:04,163 --> 00:44:06,905 We cannot wait around for change to happen 823 00:44:06,992 --> 00:44:09,429 when all the evidence shows us 824 00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,867 that we're going nowhere slowly. 825 00:44:14,564 --> 00:44:17,002 [light music] 826 00:44:18,568 --> 00:44:21,397 We thought if we could invent software 827 00:44:21,528 --> 00:44:23,356 that could do the research for us, 828 00:44:23,486 --> 00:44:24,749 it would be a huge benefit. 829 00:44:28,404 --> 00:44:30,755 - Geena Davis came to Google with a proposal 830 00:44:30,885 --> 00:44:33,758 to automate this kind of analysis. 831 00:44:33,888 --> 00:44:36,586 - One of our first goals was to discern 832 00:44:36,717 --> 00:44:38,632 screen and speaking time 833 00:44:38,763 --> 00:44:42,375 almost humanly impossible with the naked eye. 834 00:44:42,462 --> 00:44:45,073 - If you see a green box, it means it's figuring out 835 00:44:45,204 --> 00:44:48,511 not only there's a face there, but it's a female. 836 00:44:48,642 --> 00:44:51,558 - We can actually quantify the amount of screen time, 837 00:44:51,645 --> 00:44:54,430 the amount of speaking time and get data at that level. 838 00:44:54,517 --> 00:44:57,216 - It takes maybe a minute to process one film. 839 00:44:57,346 --> 00:44:58,478 - I'm gonna share with you 840 00:44:58,608 --> 00:45:01,307 just quick slides of what we found. 841 00:45:01,437 --> 00:45:03,831 [ominous music] 842 00:45:12,666 --> 00:45:17,323 - We have to be incredibly proactive and we have to realize 843 00:45:17,453 --> 00:45:19,455 this is not happening naturally on its own. 844 00:45:26,985 --> 00:45:29,030 - I read a lot about Geena Davis Institute 845 00:45:29,117 --> 00:45:30,989 and finding out all the data 846 00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,471 regarding how bad the gender equality is in Hollywood. 847 00:45:35,602 --> 00:45:38,257 I was shocked and I also really wanted 848 00:45:38,387 --> 00:45:41,086 to do something to change it. 849 00:45:42,696 --> 00:45:44,219 We've been building up 850 00:45:44,350 --> 00:45:47,788 this amazing art house cinema in Stockholm together. 851 00:45:47,919 --> 00:45:50,530 We found out about the Bechdel-Wallace test. 852 00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:54,577 [speaking in a foreign language] 853 00:45:58,799 --> 00:46:00,627 - It's a very simple test to figure out 854 00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:02,716 how women are treated on screen. 855 00:46:02,847 --> 00:46:05,371 You need two named characters who are women. 856 00:46:05,501 --> 00:46:07,242 They need to have a conversation, 857 00:46:07,373 --> 00:46:08,722 and that conversation needs to be 858 00:46:08,809 --> 00:46:10,550 about something that is not a man. 859 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,554 [speaking in a foreign language] 860 00:46:15,729 --> 00:46:17,818 - I just came back to my cinema 861 00:46:17,949 --> 00:46:20,386 and checked out how many of the films 862 00:46:20,473 --> 00:46:22,518 that I do program that pass it. 863 00:46:22,649 --> 00:46:25,260 Where we did it, no film passed. 864 00:46:25,391 --> 00:46:28,611 And I was so embarrassed because we have this feeling 865 00:46:28,742 --> 00:46:29,525 that you're actually good in something, 866 00:46:29,612 --> 00:46:30,788 but then you, [grunting] 867 00:46:30,918 --> 00:46:31,832 you're not. 868 00:46:31,963 --> 00:46:33,791 [door dinging] 869 00:46:33,921 --> 00:46:38,578 We decided after one year of research to do a logo 870 00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:41,668 of the Bechdel-Wallace test. 871 00:46:41,755 --> 00:46:44,802 A simple logo with an A saying approved. 872 00:46:46,847 --> 00:46:49,284 - I look for pleasure in the details. 873 00:46:49,415 --> 00:46:50,808 [bell dinging] 874 00:46:50,938 --> 00:46:52,810 - He's sweet, isn't he? [buzzer sounding] 875 00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:54,289 - Hey! - Zip it, Sinead. 876 00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:55,769 [buzzer sounding] 877 00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:57,292 - The point of the Bechdel test for me, 878 00:46:57,423 --> 00:46:58,772 was always that it was a joke. 879 00:46:58,903 --> 00:47:02,080 But if you actually investigate, you'll find that it's true. 880 00:47:02,210 --> 00:47:03,821 - Half the movies fail it. 881 00:47:05,823 --> 00:47:07,825 It's films that are still coming out to this day. 882 00:47:09,174 --> 00:47:10,871 American Hustle, passed. [bell dinging] 883 00:47:10,958 --> 00:47:13,743 There's one conversation that's about nail polish. 884 00:47:13,874 --> 00:47:15,745 - The top coat, it's like perfumey, 885 00:47:15,876 --> 00:47:18,009 but there's also something rotten. 886 00:47:18,139 --> 00:47:19,837 - It's not perfect. 887 00:47:19,967 --> 00:47:21,360 - My name is Shelly and I'm here to be your house mother. 888 00:47:21,490 --> 00:47:23,536 [bell dinging] 889 00:47:23,666 --> 00:47:26,800 [camera shuttering] 890 00:47:26,931 --> 00:47:29,847 - One week after we launched A Rate, 891 00:47:29,934 --> 00:47:34,634 I had 80 interviews from the whole world. 892 00:47:36,375 --> 00:47:39,508 [light dramatic music] 893 00:47:44,165 --> 00:47:46,733 Even though I was so unprepared, 894 00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:49,562 I of course felt like I need to do this. 895 00:47:50,955 --> 00:47:52,957 So this is what Geena Davis is saying, 896 00:47:53,087 --> 00:47:56,743 if she can see it, she can be it. 897 00:47:56,830 --> 00:47:59,920 Girls and boys, until they are five years old, 898 00:48:00,051 --> 00:48:01,879 have the same kind of idea 899 00:48:02,009 --> 00:48:04,664 what they will like to do when they grow up. 900 00:48:04,794 --> 00:48:07,623 After five years old, it changed radically, 901 00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:10,626 and the reason is film and TV. 902 00:48:21,942 --> 00:48:24,031 [blowing] 903 00:48:25,815 --> 00:48:26,816 - Isn't he amazing? 904 00:48:36,217 --> 00:48:36,914 - Ah ha! 905 00:48:41,788 --> 00:48:43,746 - There was a study that showed 906 00:48:43,877 --> 00:48:46,140 now girls as young as six years old 907 00:48:46,271 --> 00:48:48,882 have learned to self sexualize. 908 00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:52,842 - [Woman] This is Paisley as Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman. 909 00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:57,760 - To view themselves through the male gaze at six years old. 910 00:48:57,891 --> 00:49:01,547 - These are wet, could you blow on them for me? 911 00:49:01,677 --> 00:49:03,679 [stammering] 912 00:49:03,766 --> 00:49:05,725 - I think that entertainment culture's 913 00:49:05,855 --> 00:49:07,945 promotion of the objectification of girls and women 914 00:49:08,075 --> 00:49:10,730 literally leads women to hate their bodies. 915 00:49:13,428 --> 00:49:15,778 - When I was 16, I show up to my trailer 916 00:49:15,909 --> 00:49:18,216 for the first day of set, I'm getting dressed 917 00:49:18,346 --> 00:49:19,957 and I see my bra there and I'm like, 918 00:49:20,044 --> 00:49:21,828 oh, that's weird, it's a pushup bra. 919 00:49:21,915 --> 00:49:24,048 In front of the pushup bra, I saw two chicken cutlets. 920 00:49:26,876 --> 00:49:30,097 I had never seen a chicken cutlet, I was a kid. 921 00:49:30,228 --> 00:49:32,839 And I asked the wardrobe girl and she's like, 922 00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:35,755 oh, yeah, I was told to put these in your trailer. 923 00:49:35,885 --> 00:49:37,844 One of the producers comes in 924 00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:40,194 and I immediately was like, why is that here? 925 00:49:40,281 --> 00:49:44,111 He or she looked at me and said, it was a studio note. 926 00:49:47,158 --> 00:49:48,986 You're telling me that a group of people 927 00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:52,990 looked at a 16 year old girl in the screen tests 928 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,210 and they said her breasts didn't look big enough? 929 00:49:59,126 --> 00:50:01,172 It was the first time I really felt insecure. 930 00:50:01,302 --> 00:50:02,695 I looked at myself in the mirror and I was like, 931 00:50:02,825 --> 00:50:05,915 well, is it not right? 932 00:50:06,046 --> 00:50:07,308 That's when I started to realize, 933 00:50:07,439 --> 00:50:11,834 oh, I'm not just an actor, I'm viewed as an actress. 934 00:50:14,489 --> 00:50:17,710 [background chattering] 935 00:50:18,928 --> 00:50:21,714 [reflective music] 936 00:50:29,417 --> 00:50:34,292 - A big part of why I wanted to change Hollywood 937 00:50:34,422 --> 00:50:38,861 was because if my little girl dreamed of being a storyteller 938 00:50:38,992 --> 00:50:43,605 in this world, I did not want the circumstances 939 00:50:45,259 --> 00:50:48,175 that kept me from being able to achieve success 940 00:50:48,306 --> 00:50:50,786 to keep her from being able to achieve success. 941 00:50:52,745 --> 00:50:53,920 That was not okay with me. 942 00:50:56,314 --> 00:50:58,533 What I really wanted to do was make sure 943 00:50:58,664 --> 00:51:00,883 that all girls didn't have to face that. 944 00:51:01,884 --> 00:51:04,757 [traffic passing] 945 00:51:10,632 --> 00:51:13,983 - It's one thing to say out loud, I want parity, 946 00:51:14,071 --> 00:51:17,422 it's another thing to then figure out day to day 947 00:51:17,552 --> 00:51:20,860 what the costs of that are, what that actually means. 948 00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:25,430 - Just by doing you will achieve something 949 00:51:25,517 --> 00:51:27,258 that will push the limit, 950 00:51:27,388 --> 00:51:29,782 but be prepared that that's what you're starting. 951 00:51:33,655 --> 00:51:36,136 - I joined the Director's Guild in 1999. 952 00:51:40,793 --> 00:51:43,230 I was called to an events meeting 953 00:51:43,361 --> 00:51:44,971 for the Women's Steering Committee 954 00:51:46,494 --> 00:51:47,800 and it was in those meetings 955 00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:50,672 that I discovered it wasn't just me. 956 00:51:53,588 --> 00:51:56,504 Melanie Wagor had this great idea for a summit 957 00:51:56,635 --> 00:51:58,811 to try to figure out how to get more work 958 00:51:58,941 --> 00:52:00,943 for women DGA members. 959 00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:02,728 She said, well, we've been trying to get it going 960 00:52:02,858 --> 00:52:05,731 for two years, it was not getting approved. 961 00:52:05,818 --> 00:52:08,081 - That is a tiny little example 962 00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:12,259 of how obstructionist our own guild was 963 00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:14,914 in terms of us just trying to organize ourselves. 964 00:52:15,044 --> 00:52:16,829 - It wasn't an officially sanctioned thing. 965 00:52:16,916 --> 00:52:19,484 We had to fight really hard to have it. 966 00:52:19,571 --> 00:52:21,007 It was a way of shining a light 967 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:23,140 and putting a mirror to them, 968 00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:26,012 and I don't think they wanted to see what was there. 969 00:52:29,058 --> 00:52:31,104 - I was invited to sit on a panel, 970 00:52:31,235 --> 00:52:33,193 and here were these powerful women. 971 00:52:33,324 --> 00:52:37,980 I was surprised at how powerless they felt. 972 00:52:41,158 --> 00:52:45,814 - Our purpose as organizers was also to create a list 973 00:52:47,686 --> 00:52:48,904 of women director members of the Director's Guild. 974 00:52:50,645 --> 00:52:52,256 At the end of the afternoon, 975 00:52:52,343 --> 00:52:55,781 an executive at the DGA said, could I please take your list 976 00:52:55,868 --> 00:52:57,913 and bring it upstairs and copy it? 977 00:53:00,089 --> 00:53:01,743 We never got it back. 978 00:53:01,874 --> 00:53:05,051 They said, we've determined that this is our property. 979 00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:08,663 That's unconscionable, that's gagging, that's red flagging. 980 00:53:10,622 --> 00:53:13,233 [traffic passing] 981 00:53:17,063 --> 00:53:19,370 - Instinctively I knew that something 982 00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:23,025 was fundamentally really wrong on a legal level, 983 00:53:23,156 --> 00:53:26,333 not just on a moral/ethical level. 984 00:53:28,727 --> 00:53:30,642 And then somebody mentioned to me 985 00:53:30,729 --> 00:53:35,124 that there had already been a legal action in the 1980s 986 00:53:36,909 --> 00:53:38,867 by a group of six female directors. 987 00:53:40,304 --> 00:53:43,220 [light upbeat music] 988 00:53:46,875 --> 00:53:49,791 - The first time the six women of the DGA got together 989 00:53:49,878 --> 00:53:53,708 was in '78 and '79, and was actually an event 990 00:53:53,839 --> 00:53:57,277 run by, I think, my memory says Women In Film. 991 00:53:57,408 --> 00:53:59,410 - Hi, nice to meet you, what do you do? 992 00:54:00,715 --> 00:54:01,890 [chuckling] I'm an out of work director. 993 00:54:01,977 --> 00:54:03,283 - It was really a tough conversation, 994 00:54:03,414 --> 00:54:05,503 'cause in the entertainment industry, 995 00:54:05,633 --> 00:54:08,767 the last thing you wanna do is say, I'm not working. 996 00:54:08,897 --> 00:54:10,421 - Are you working? No. 997 00:54:10,551 --> 00:54:11,465 Are you working? No. 998 00:54:11,596 --> 00:54:12,814 - None of us were working. 999 00:54:12,901 --> 00:54:15,600 - It was preposterous, It was preposterous. 1000 00:54:15,730 --> 00:54:17,471 - These were accomplished women. 1001 00:54:18,603 --> 00:54:20,866 - We had one Oscar, a Fulbright, 1002 00:54:20,996 --> 00:54:24,261 two AFI Filmmaker Grants, two Emmys, 1003 00:54:24,391 --> 00:54:28,613 and what we figured out we really needed was a penis. 1004 00:54:28,743 --> 00:54:31,877 - I remember getting up and saying we are all doomed 1005 00:54:32,007 --> 00:54:34,967 to stunted careers if we don't do something. 1006 00:54:36,229 --> 00:54:37,143 [light music] 1007 00:54:37,274 --> 00:54:39,580 - We needed to find out why. 1008 00:54:39,711 --> 00:54:42,148 One of the amazing resources we had was 1009 00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:45,717 the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences Library. 1010 00:54:45,804 --> 00:54:50,417 Nell Cox and I were there weeks on end pulling magazines. 1011 00:54:51,897 --> 00:54:55,030 We studied a period between 1949 and 1979 1012 00:54:56,771 --> 00:54:58,556 with little pencil and paper chit sheets, 1013 00:55:00,688 --> 00:55:03,038 looking for the number of films per year 1014 00:55:03,169 --> 00:55:05,780 and looking for women's names. 1015 00:55:05,911 --> 00:55:08,653 - We started going back into DGA records, 1016 00:55:08,783 --> 00:55:11,656 which they were reluctant to fork over. 1017 00:55:13,005 --> 00:55:17,009 - We met almost every Saturday for a year. 1018 00:55:20,882 --> 00:55:25,278 We worked very, very hard at covering all the bases. 1019 00:55:27,411 --> 00:55:30,849 - What we came up with was this astonishing statistic 1020 00:55:30,979 --> 00:55:35,636 that between 1949 and 1979, one half of one percent 1021 00:55:36,855 --> 00:55:40,815 of all assignments went to women. 1022 00:55:40,946 --> 00:55:43,470 It's like, do you have a plate of cookies? 1023 00:55:44,906 --> 00:55:46,821 There were 100 cookies on the plate, 1024 00:55:46,952 --> 00:55:50,695 all the guys come and they take 99.5 cookies. 1025 00:55:52,610 --> 00:55:54,089 [cookie snapping] 1026 00:55:54,176 --> 00:55:57,005 And all the women directors in the guild 1027 00:55:57,136 --> 00:56:00,705 have to fight over that one half of a cookie. 1028 00:56:00,835 --> 00:56:03,795 - We've all had our eyes opened, 1029 00:56:03,925 --> 00:56:07,364 and once opened, you realize how shut they were. 1030 00:56:08,887 --> 00:56:10,802 - We went to the Director's Guild 1031 00:56:10,932 --> 00:56:13,674 to try to get them to do something about it. 1032 00:56:13,805 --> 00:56:16,373 [somber music] 1033 00:56:20,464 --> 00:56:22,944 - Did the men understand there was discrimination 1034 00:56:23,075 --> 00:56:25,207 in the entertainment industry? 1035 00:56:25,338 --> 00:56:29,037 Not really, there was a lot of resistance. 1036 00:56:29,168 --> 00:56:32,519 - All of the sudden we were holding up a mirror 1037 00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:35,174 to husbands and fathers and we were saying, 1038 00:56:35,261 --> 00:56:37,394 you want this for your daughter? 1039 00:56:37,524 --> 00:56:39,961 Maybe your daughters wanna be directors. 1040 00:56:42,616 --> 00:56:44,705 - Mel Brooks was on the national board. 1041 00:56:44,836 --> 00:56:46,664 He was the loose cannon, you never knew 1042 00:56:46,794 --> 00:56:48,579 what Mel Brooks was gonna come up with. 1043 00:56:48,709 --> 00:56:50,972 He got up from his seat, that was like the first 1044 00:56:51,103 --> 00:56:53,322 uh oh, uh oh, what is he going to do? 1045 00:56:53,453 --> 00:56:56,761 And he leaned on the table and he said, 1046 00:56:56,891 --> 00:56:58,240 you guys are nitpicking 1047 00:56:58,371 --> 00:57:00,982 and petty fogging the women into the shit house. 1048 00:57:01,113 --> 00:57:04,595 He started yelling, this is their time, this is their time! 1049 00:57:04,725 --> 00:57:06,945 [light music] 1050 00:57:10,339 --> 00:57:13,168 - The Director's Guild chose to have 1051 00:57:13,299 --> 00:57:16,650 voluntary cooperation, voluntary compliance. 1052 00:57:23,483 --> 00:57:25,833 Things like learn to be a better director classes, 1053 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,925 coaching, oh, and to observe the director at a show. 1054 00:57:31,056 --> 00:57:32,361 I can't tell you how many of our women director members 1055 00:57:32,492 --> 00:57:35,974 observed, observed, observed, observed, observed. 1056 00:57:40,369 --> 00:57:41,893 By the time all this voluntary compliance 1057 00:57:42,023 --> 00:57:44,243 was another year, a year and a half. 1058 00:57:44,373 --> 00:57:48,421 By then we had the proof that it was just smoke and mirrors. 1059 00:57:49,988 --> 00:57:51,816 Executive director Mike Franklin 1060 00:57:51,946 --> 00:57:55,036 called a big giant meeting to review 1061 00:57:55,167 --> 00:57:59,214 and he invited all the same people, and nobody showed up. 1062 00:58:01,521 --> 00:58:04,219 Nobody from the studios, networks, 1063 00:58:04,350 --> 00:58:06,526 production companies came at all. 1064 00:58:06,657 --> 00:58:10,182 This was the first time those men were ever treated 1065 00:58:10,312 --> 00:58:12,053 with a slap in the face, they were treated like a woman, 1066 00:58:12,184 --> 00:58:14,316 and it was their first taste of it. 1067 00:58:15,709 --> 00:58:17,798 - Well, Michael Franklin got angry 1068 00:58:19,191 --> 00:58:21,019 and he said, we're suing them. 1069 00:58:22,629 --> 00:58:27,416 [typing] [light upbeat music] 1070 00:58:37,296 --> 00:58:39,733 - Law is very important to making change. 1071 00:58:39,864 --> 00:58:41,692 You can't change hearts and minds, 1072 00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:43,563 but there can be consequences. 1073 00:58:43,694 --> 00:58:46,566 And laws establish consequences for behavior, 1074 00:58:46,697 --> 00:58:48,089 and I think that's very important. 1075 00:58:51,310 --> 00:58:55,444 - There has never been any union that filed a lawsuit 1076 00:58:55,575 --> 00:58:58,143 against any studio, any network, 1077 00:58:58,273 --> 00:59:01,799 about an issue such as equal hiring equity. 1078 00:59:01,929 --> 00:59:03,322 - We came to the conclusion 1079 00:59:03,452 --> 00:59:05,759 that voluntary compliance was ridiculous. 1080 00:59:05,890 --> 00:59:08,283 People are not gonna take jobs away 1081 00:59:08,414 --> 00:59:11,156 from people they've hired. 1082 00:59:11,243 --> 00:59:13,462 - Title seven is the law of the land. 1083 00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:18,119 But unless there are specific mandates, compliance is fluid. 1084 00:59:21,732 --> 00:59:23,560 - We were assigned to the federal court 1085 00:59:23,690 --> 00:59:25,649 of Judge Pamela Rymer. 1086 00:59:25,779 --> 00:59:28,739 We thought, oh, well, a woman judge, 1087 00:59:28,869 --> 00:59:31,480 maybe she'll understand what it's like to be shut out. 1088 00:59:34,266 --> 00:59:35,441 She threw the case out. 1089 00:59:41,752 --> 00:59:44,102 - It's like the wind is knocked out of you. 1090 00:59:47,496 --> 00:59:51,109 She said the guild was not a proper litigant 1091 00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:54,808 because members of the guild discriminate themselves. 1092 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,421 Directors discriminate when they don't hire women 1093 00:59:59,552 --> 01:00:01,380 and minority assistant directors. 1094 01:00:01,510 --> 01:00:03,034 Assistant directors discriminate 1095 01:00:03,164 --> 01:00:05,950 when they don't hire second assistant directors 1096 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,300 who are women and minorities. 1097 01:00:08,430 --> 01:00:12,434 It was a legitimate turn down, we weren't prepared for it 1098 01:00:12,565 --> 01:00:13,610 and I was surprised by that. 1099 01:00:15,350 --> 01:00:17,788 [somber music] 1100 01:00:17,918 --> 01:00:19,746 - [Woman] I discovered this community four years ago 1101 01:00:19,833 --> 01:00:21,487 when I began an anthropological study 1102 01:00:21,618 --> 01:00:23,141 of aging in an ethnic group. 1103 01:00:24,751 --> 01:00:28,233 - [Lynne] I wanna get good at what I care about doing, 1104 01:00:31,105 --> 01:00:34,326 and that's what we've been deprived of. 1105 01:00:34,456 --> 01:00:38,504 - And the award goes to Number Our Days, Lynne Littman. 1106 01:00:38,591 --> 01:00:41,899 [audience applauding] 1107 01:00:42,029 --> 01:00:46,164 - Misogyny is an invisible sport. 1108 01:00:52,213 --> 01:00:54,825 It prevented us from creating careers. 1109 01:00:54,955 --> 01:00:59,264 It prevented us from creating bodies of work. 1110 01:01:07,446 --> 01:01:09,013 - [Woman] If we had won the case, 1111 01:01:09,143 --> 01:01:11,015 it would have been a mandate. 1112 01:01:11,145 --> 01:01:13,582 You have to hire a certain number of women 1113 01:01:13,713 --> 01:01:15,541 or you're breaking federal law. 1114 01:01:18,544 --> 01:01:20,633 The film industry dodged a bullet. 1115 01:01:23,114 --> 01:01:24,115 They got away with it. 1116 01:01:27,945 --> 01:01:30,164 - It was a terrible loss, 1117 01:01:30,295 --> 01:01:33,341 so much effort by these women directors, 1118 01:01:33,472 --> 01:01:37,737 but you really saw an incredibly radical shift 1119 01:01:37,868 --> 01:01:40,261 among female director hires in Hollywood 1120 01:01:40,392 --> 01:01:42,524 because of a legal action. 1121 01:01:44,570 --> 01:01:49,140 In the following 10 years, the numbers skyrocketed to 16%. 1122 01:01:50,663 --> 01:01:54,493 - But then, after 1995, no more progress. 1123 01:01:55,712 --> 01:01:57,322 - For the next 20 years, the number of women directors 1124 01:01:57,452 --> 01:01:59,803 was going to go in decline, 1125 01:01:59,933 --> 01:02:01,935 and women of color, off the map. 1126 01:02:04,677 --> 01:02:06,331 I realized that we were not gonna be able 1127 01:02:06,418 --> 01:02:08,986 to solve this problem from within. 1128 01:02:09,116 --> 01:02:13,860 We had to get this out of the DGA and into the world. 1129 01:02:13,991 --> 01:02:15,427 [keyboard clicking] 1130 01:02:15,557 --> 01:02:17,559 The most obvious solution that we could come up with 1131 01:02:17,646 --> 01:02:19,344 was to take this to the ACLU. 1132 01:02:20,693 --> 01:02:23,827 [somber music] 1133 01:02:23,914 --> 01:02:26,568 - The American Civil Liberties Union 1134 01:02:26,699 --> 01:02:28,614 works to protect people's constitutional rights 1135 01:02:28,701 --> 01:02:30,572 and defend the Bill of Rights 1136 01:02:30,703 --> 01:02:34,011 that's guaranteed to everyone in the United States. 1137 01:02:34,141 --> 01:02:36,709 - Watchdog groups like the ACLU, 1138 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,453 all they're asking is that the law be respected. 1139 01:02:42,933 --> 01:02:43,760 We don't so much need to change the laws 1140 01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:45,457 as enforce the laws. 1141 01:02:47,981 --> 01:02:51,115 - [Maria] My friends were reluctant 1142 01:02:51,245 --> 01:02:56,033 to go outside the industry, they were worried. 1143 01:02:56,163 --> 01:02:58,687 - The film business is a who you know business. 1144 01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:00,733 You cannot go out there and start yelling, 1145 01:03:00,864 --> 01:03:02,343 because you'll never get hired again. 1146 01:03:06,739 --> 01:03:08,610 - Maria Giese is very brave. 1147 01:03:08,741 --> 01:03:11,744 She's on the frontline takin' the hits 1148 01:03:11,875 --> 01:03:13,615 and not making a lot of friends, I suppose. 1149 01:03:15,182 --> 01:03:17,358 - [Maria] The whole thing is about fear, 1150 01:03:17,489 --> 01:03:20,448 and the one thing you cannot do 1151 01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:24,801 if you're trying to make change is respond to fear. 1152 01:03:24,931 --> 01:03:29,501 - She has the passion and the energy that I remember. 1153 01:03:32,634 --> 01:03:34,811 - I was full-time on this. 1154 01:03:34,941 --> 01:03:39,467 For me to be able to get the point across to the ACLU, 1155 01:03:39,598 --> 01:03:42,122 it was essential to be able to define this 1156 01:03:42,253 --> 01:03:44,342 as a national problem, a global problem, 1157 01:03:44,472 --> 01:03:46,083 a civil rights problem. 1158 01:03:48,694 --> 01:03:52,698 Hollywood is our storytelling machine. 1159 01:03:52,785 --> 01:03:55,353 - I've been appointed to defend Tom Robinson. 1160 01:03:55,483 --> 01:03:59,792 - It creates, in large part, our cultural narrative 1161 01:03:59,923 --> 01:04:03,535 and informs the voice of our very civilization. 1162 01:04:03,622 --> 01:04:06,016 - These three words written larger then the rest, 1163 01:04:06,146 --> 01:04:10,107 we the people, they must apply to everyone, 1164 01:04:10,237 --> 01:04:12,761 [whip cracking] or they mean nothing. 1165 01:04:12,892 --> 01:04:14,807 - [Maria] We American people rely 1166 01:04:14,894 --> 01:04:18,811 on our entertainment industry largely 1167 01:04:18,942 --> 01:04:21,901 for it to communicate our stories. 1168 01:04:22,032 --> 01:04:24,730 - All right, let's go to work. 1169 01:04:24,861 --> 01:04:28,690 - [Maria] And to represent us to each other 1170 01:04:28,821 --> 01:04:30,997 and to the rest of the world. 1171 01:04:31,128 --> 01:04:32,477 - That's correct. 1172 01:04:32,607 --> 01:04:35,436 - And women's creative input is not making it 1173 01:04:35,523 --> 01:04:39,788 into our nation's storytelling, into our cultural narrative. 1174 01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:49,537 - Maria reached out to Melissa Goodman 1175 01:04:49,668 --> 01:04:52,410 because Melissa's expertise is in gender issues. 1176 01:04:54,151 --> 01:04:57,545 - There are federal laws that very clearly and specifically 1177 01:04:57,676 --> 01:05:00,287 prohibit sex discrimination in employment. 1178 01:05:00,374 --> 01:05:04,509 California has their own set of very strong and protective 1179 01:05:04,639 --> 01:05:06,903 gender discrimination laws as well. 1180 01:05:08,817 --> 01:05:10,210 - Over the course of the next six weeks, 1181 01:05:10,341 --> 01:05:12,952 I met in their offices and I told my story. 1182 01:05:15,085 --> 01:05:18,610 - If there are nearly zero members of a protected group 1183 01:05:18,697 --> 01:05:21,656 in a workplace, something is keeping them out. 1184 01:05:21,787 --> 01:05:24,877 - I think if you were Starbucks and 93% of your employees 1185 01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:28,794 were male, that would be a problem. 1186 01:05:28,925 --> 01:05:32,841 - Unless it can be justified as necessary 1187 01:05:32,972 --> 01:05:35,279 to the functioning of these companies, 1188 01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:36,802 it's illegal under Title Seven. 1189 01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:40,458 That's the story that I think gets us places. 1190 01:05:40,588 --> 01:05:43,461 [light somber music] 1191 01:05:45,550 --> 01:05:48,292 - We strongly believe and the data strongly suggests 1192 01:05:48,422 --> 01:05:51,860 that bias behind the camera in Hollywood 1193 01:05:51,991 --> 01:05:54,907 is directly related to all the other discrimination 1194 01:05:54,994 --> 01:05:57,954 and bias that we fight at the ACLU 1195 01:05:58,084 --> 01:06:01,044 in all other facets of life, it's all connected. 1196 01:06:04,873 --> 01:06:06,832 - Over the next several months, 1197 01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:10,618 my colleagues gathered stories from around 50 women. 1198 01:06:10,749 --> 01:06:13,186 - I had been in conversation with the ACLU 1199 01:06:13,317 --> 01:06:15,972 and was letting them know about some of my experiences. 1200 01:06:18,235 --> 01:06:20,977 - In an industry like film and television 1201 01:06:21,064 --> 01:06:24,937 where the process for hiring is a spiderweb, 1202 01:06:25,068 --> 01:06:28,680 all of these organizations play a different role 1203 01:06:28,810 --> 01:06:31,204 in navigating the process 1204 01:06:31,335 --> 01:06:33,424 for making film and making television. 1205 01:06:33,554 --> 01:06:38,255 - The networks blame the showrunners. 1206 01:06:39,908 --> 01:06:42,215 The showrunners blame the agencies and the studios. 1207 01:06:42,346 --> 01:06:45,697 The studios are blamin' the showrunners and the networks. 1208 01:06:45,827 --> 01:06:48,178 So they all have a safe zone in which they can say, 1209 01:06:48,308 --> 01:06:49,962 I'm not racist or sexist. 1210 01:06:50,093 --> 01:06:53,748 - What it results in is a wild irrationality 1211 01:06:53,879 --> 01:06:55,968 in who gets to make TV and movies. 1212 01:06:57,622 --> 01:07:00,190 - People would say the biggest problem is 1213 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,454 women never make it on agency lists to the studios. 1214 01:07:06,805 --> 01:07:08,937 - You call all the major agencies and say 1215 01:07:09,025 --> 01:07:12,550 we need 12 directors for this order, who do you have? 1216 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:13,768 Most of them are men. 1217 01:07:25,171 --> 01:07:27,869 - If the list that we get are all men on the list, 1218 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,046 we are overloaded with a lot of work, 1219 01:07:30,176 --> 01:07:32,613 and sometimes we don't look beyond our lists. 1220 01:07:34,441 --> 01:07:38,750 - When I reached out to agencies to send me other writers, 1221 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,926 they said, we don't have any. 1222 01:07:41,057 --> 01:07:43,711 And someone actually said, I understand, 1223 01:07:43,842 --> 01:07:46,540 you're covering your ass for some reason, 1224 01:07:46,671 --> 01:07:48,803 we're gonna send you some more white men. 1225 01:07:48,934 --> 01:07:50,675 - [Man] They actually said white men? 1226 01:07:50,805 --> 01:07:51,763 - Yes. 1227 01:07:52,981 --> 01:07:55,245 - If a woman is paid less than a man, 1228 01:07:55,375 --> 01:07:58,335 an agent is going to make more money 1229 01:07:58,465 --> 01:08:00,902 pushing a male writer or a male director. 1230 01:08:01,033 --> 01:08:02,600 - Starting out as an agent, 1231 01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:05,429 I was encouraged to spend most of my time 1232 01:08:05,516 --> 01:08:08,040 representing male clients because it was the view 1233 01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:10,086 that male clients made more money. 1234 01:08:10,216 --> 01:08:13,176 - If you can't get in the door to be even on the list 1235 01:08:13,306 --> 01:08:16,222 of people considered, you're clearly never gonna get a job. 1236 01:08:16,353 --> 01:08:18,920 [woman screaming] 1237 01:08:19,051 --> 01:08:22,359 - The movies that we make are huge, 1238 01:08:22,446 --> 01:08:26,058 and we don't wanna have people making these movies and fail. 1239 01:08:26,189 --> 01:08:27,755 So you wanna make sure that they have 1240 01:08:27,842 --> 01:08:29,844 some sort of experience to get it done. 1241 01:08:29,975 --> 01:08:31,890 - It's hard to say, well, this woman 1242 01:08:32,020 --> 01:08:33,805 who made a five million dollar horror movie, 1243 01:08:33,935 --> 01:08:38,636 let's give her a 150 million dollar action movie. 1244 01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:41,291 Well, you have to let people do it 1245 01:08:41,421 --> 01:08:43,989 so that they have experience to change the pool. 1246 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,513 - None of our directors before they came to us 1247 01:08:46,644 --> 01:08:49,299 had made a 100 million dollar movie. 1248 01:08:49,429 --> 01:08:50,735 None of our male directors. 1249 01:08:52,911 --> 01:08:55,566 [somber music] 1250 01:08:57,263 --> 01:08:59,439 - The idea that we have a lack of qualified women, 1251 01:09:00,919 --> 01:09:02,616 all of that is bullshit. 1252 01:09:02,747 --> 01:09:05,010 We have a lack of people who are comfortable hiring people 1253 01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:07,665 who exist outside of their comfort zone. 1254 01:09:07,795 --> 01:09:09,188 - There's plenty of us. 1255 01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:12,974 You could hire women for every feature film 1256 01:09:13,105 --> 01:09:16,717 in this country and you would not run out of women to hire. 1257 01:09:16,848 --> 01:09:21,157 - Our job is to help and demand the studios and producers 1258 01:09:21,244 --> 01:09:24,029 and networks and streamers make decisions 1259 01:09:24,116 --> 01:09:26,162 that favor gender equality. 1260 01:09:27,728 --> 01:09:29,817 - You just hire women, it's not that hard. 1261 01:09:29,948 --> 01:09:32,646 It's not that hard, I have not had a hard time doing it, 1262 01:09:32,777 --> 01:09:34,953 so I don't understand why that's difficult. 1263 01:09:35,083 --> 01:09:37,303 [light music] 1264 01:09:43,004 --> 01:09:44,136 - We came to the conclusion 1265 01:09:44,267 --> 01:09:46,530 that it was a really serious civil rights problem 1266 01:09:46,660 --> 01:09:49,794 that deserved the attention of the EEOC, 1267 01:09:52,797 --> 01:09:56,061 which is the agency tasked with enforcing Title Seven. 1268 01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,281 - When I saw that letter, I was shocked. 1269 01:09:58,411 --> 01:10:02,241 It was like, wow, that's incredible. 1270 01:10:02,372 --> 01:10:04,939 [somber music] 1271 01:10:13,687 --> 01:10:17,996 - On October 6th, I received one of the first letters 1272 01:10:18,126 --> 01:10:22,783 from the EEOC asking to interview me. 1273 01:10:24,132 --> 01:10:26,222 This meant the investigation was on. 1274 01:10:30,356 --> 01:10:33,577 - The EEOC says they're gonna investigate Hollywood. 1275 01:10:33,707 --> 01:10:36,144 This is a massive accomplishment for us. 1276 01:10:36,275 --> 01:10:38,625 - I went down to the EEOC and did, 1277 01:10:38,756 --> 01:10:41,324 I believe it was about four hours worth of interviews, 1278 01:10:41,454 --> 01:10:44,109 and so did many other people too. 1279 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,938 - In terms of outcomes, the EEOC is always focused 1280 01:10:47,068 --> 01:10:50,028 on a variety of remedies. 1281 01:10:52,204 --> 01:10:55,990 That could range from instituting certain percentages 1282 01:10:56,121 --> 01:10:58,906 of women considered and hired for jobs. 1283 01:10:59,037 --> 01:11:02,214 They can impose reporting requirements. 1284 01:11:02,345 --> 01:11:03,520 Here are the number of women we considered, 1285 01:11:03,650 --> 01:11:06,044 we are the number of women we hired, here's why. 1286 01:11:06,174 --> 01:11:08,351 - I would hope it would be a wake up call. 1287 01:11:10,266 --> 01:11:13,921 We're all of us doing something really wrong and it's time. 1288 01:11:25,411 --> 01:11:28,196 - Every form of pressure is important. 1289 01:11:28,327 --> 01:11:32,897 If it comes from a need to settle a lawsuit, 1290 01:11:33,027 --> 01:11:36,074 it will happen faster then if it comes from, 1291 01:11:36,204 --> 01:11:38,032 gee, this is something we should do, 1292 01:11:38,163 --> 01:11:39,773 but we don't have to do it. 1293 01:11:39,860 --> 01:11:43,168 - I think the EEOC thing is great, 1294 01:11:43,299 --> 01:11:46,084 because you either gotta shame people legally 1295 01:11:46,214 --> 01:11:48,956 and say you may get sued if you don't do this, 1296 01:11:49,087 --> 01:11:50,131 or you just have to shame them publicly 1297 01:11:50,262 --> 01:11:52,220 and go like, hey everybody, look, 1298 01:11:52,351 --> 01:11:54,614 look what they haven't been doing, this is ridiculous. 1299 01:11:56,747 --> 01:11:59,402 - As it stands right now, if you are a person 1300 01:11:59,489 --> 01:12:02,796 with hiring power and you are not actively, actively 1301 01:12:02,927 --> 01:12:06,974 trying to hire more women, you are part of the problem. 1302 01:12:07,105 --> 01:12:10,630 - I'll be interested in seeing in this very documentary 1303 01:12:10,717 --> 01:12:13,198 how many men in positions of power 1304 01:12:13,285 --> 01:12:16,070 will sit here and explain why they don't hire women. 1305 01:12:16,201 --> 01:12:17,376 It's an easy question. 1306 01:12:27,299 --> 01:12:28,431 - At the same time, I started noticing 1307 01:12:28,561 --> 01:12:30,389 the scripts are really bad for women in Hollywood. 1308 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,000 I decided I was gonna go on a tour of all the studios 1309 01:12:33,087 --> 01:12:34,698 and meet with every studio head and say, 1310 01:12:34,828 --> 01:12:37,831 what are you developing for me, for other women? 1311 01:12:37,962 --> 01:12:41,357 And they literally looked at me blank, they had nothing. 1312 01:12:41,487 --> 01:12:44,534 One studio said, we think we might have one movie 1313 01:12:44,664 --> 01:12:46,971 where we can flip the gender from a guy to a women. 1314 01:12:47,101 --> 01:12:49,887 And I thought, what? 1315 01:12:50,017 --> 01:12:51,236 This is crazy. 1316 01:12:51,323 --> 01:12:53,107 I felt like I could either admire that problem 1317 01:12:53,238 --> 01:12:54,848 or do something about it. 1318 01:12:54,935 --> 01:12:56,763 - You sound like a feminist. 1319 01:12:56,850 --> 01:12:58,548 - I am. 1320 01:12:58,678 --> 01:13:01,942 - That's excellent, that's fantastic, I love feminists. 1321 01:13:02,073 --> 01:13:05,555 - So I put up my own money and I had two employees 1322 01:13:05,642 --> 01:13:08,558 and just started developing these projects 1323 01:13:08,688 --> 01:13:11,343 with smart, articulate, capable women. 1324 01:13:11,474 --> 01:13:12,736 It's actually kind of annoying 1325 01:13:12,866 --> 01:13:14,999 that you look like that and you're smart. 1326 01:13:15,129 --> 01:13:17,393 - Reese has a very vital production company 1327 01:13:17,523 --> 01:13:20,091 and they're creating female centric stories 1328 01:13:20,221 --> 01:13:22,267 that are really successful. 1329 01:13:22,398 --> 01:13:27,141 - Big Little Lies. [audience applauding] 1330 01:13:30,623 --> 01:13:33,670 - It's time for our business to wake up 1331 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,194 and realize that it's good economics 1332 01:13:36,281 --> 01:13:37,978 as well as the right thing to do. 1333 01:13:40,764 --> 01:13:42,156 - People in senior leadership 1334 01:13:42,287 --> 01:13:44,942 can really change an organization. 1335 01:13:45,029 --> 01:13:48,119 Having a specific plan in their talent strategy 1336 01:13:48,249 --> 01:13:51,775 about diversity and inclusion and being very persistent 1337 01:13:51,905 --> 01:13:53,777 to make sure that you're getting access 1338 01:13:53,907 --> 01:13:55,605 to the best pool of talent that you can. 1339 01:13:58,346 --> 01:14:00,479 - When I was president of entertainment at ABC, 1340 01:14:00,610 --> 01:14:02,481 it was just after Sex And The City 1341 01:14:02,612 --> 01:14:04,788 was announced to be going away. 1342 01:14:04,918 --> 01:14:07,878 - Stop, really, you're gonna make me cry. 1343 01:14:08,008 --> 01:14:10,707 - That became a real trigger. 1344 01:14:10,837 --> 01:14:14,188 We need to find the next show for women. 1345 01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:16,364 - I may be dead, but I'm still pretty. 1346 01:14:16,495 --> 01:14:17,888 - I would watch TV and the women 1347 01:14:17,975 --> 01:14:22,283 on network television all felt cute. 1348 01:14:22,414 --> 01:14:24,155 - [Both] I'm sexy, I'm cute. 1349 01:14:24,285 --> 01:14:25,852 - It's so girly and stupid. 1350 01:14:25,983 --> 01:14:27,375 - [Shonda] They all felt like somebody's fantasy 1351 01:14:27,506 --> 01:14:28,638 of what a woman would be. 1352 01:14:28,768 --> 01:14:30,335 - God, look at her. 1353 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:32,685 - I was like, I don't really wanna watch these shows. 1354 01:14:32,816 --> 01:14:34,339 What I wanted to watch was a show 1355 01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:36,863 about competitive women who loved their jobs, 1356 01:14:36,994 --> 01:14:41,259 who are happy to stand up to the guys and be big dogs. 1357 01:14:41,389 --> 01:14:43,130 - We were rolling some ideas around 1358 01:14:43,217 --> 01:14:45,829 and the idea of doing an medical show came up, 1359 01:14:45,916 --> 01:14:47,265 and so we started talking about 1360 01:14:47,395 --> 01:14:48,745 what a medical show would look like 1361 01:14:48,832 --> 01:14:50,616 if it was coming from Shonda's brain. 1362 01:14:50,703 --> 01:14:52,488 [typing] 1363 01:14:52,618 --> 01:14:53,750 - She wrote Grey's Anatomy. 1364 01:14:53,837 --> 01:14:55,578 The way that she wanted to do it 1365 01:14:55,708 --> 01:14:56,970 with the diversity of the cast 1366 01:14:57,101 --> 01:14:59,799 and the diversity of the points of view, 1367 01:14:59,886 --> 01:15:01,627 it was totally unique. 1368 01:15:03,586 --> 01:15:05,022 - Betsy and I were brought into a room 1369 01:15:05,152 --> 01:15:07,111 full of older white men. 1370 01:15:07,241 --> 01:15:11,158 - Pilot screenings were dominantly male. 1371 01:15:11,289 --> 01:15:13,857 - This one gentlemen said, the pilot is appalling, 1372 01:15:13,987 --> 01:15:17,338 you have this women who the night before 1373 01:15:17,469 --> 01:15:20,864 her first day in her new job goes out, 1374 01:15:20,994 --> 01:15:25,346 gets drunk, picks up a guy, sleeps with him, 1375 01:15:25,477 --> 01:15:28,393 and then goes into work, who would ever do that? 1376 01:15:29,873 --> 01:15:31,570 And I remember looking at him and saying, 1377 01:15:31,701 --> 01:15:32,832 well actually, I did it. 1378 01:15:32,963 --> 01:15:35,400 - It was fascinating watching them 1379 01:15:35,531 --> 01:15:38,011 trying to shape Meredith Grey 1380 01:15:38,142 --> 01:15:41,232 into one of their fantasy girls who's perfect and wholesome. 1381 01:15:41,362 --> 01:15:42,929 We just didn't do it. 1382 01:15:43,060 --> 01:15:45,715 - [Man] Dr. Grey, you need to tell us what you wanna do. 1383 01:15:45,802 --> 01:15:47,412 - All the parts that I had been auditioning for 1384 01:15:47,543 --> 01:15:49,501 were the girlfriend or the wife, 1385 01:15:49,632 --> 01:15:51,590 so I did notice immediately that, 1386 01:15:51,721 --> 01:15:55,202 oh, I get to be the lead role, I get to be a doctor, 1387 01:15:55,333 --> 01:15:57,074 I get to have opinions, I get to be smart. 1388 01:15:59,032 --> 01:16:03,602 - Shonda was able to make half of her cast not white. 1389 01:16:03,733 --> 01:16:05,648 - Everyone, listen up, please. 1390 01:16:05,778 --> 01:16:08,694 - I was very lucky because Grey's Anatomy was developed 1391 01:16:08,825 --> 01:16:11,610 under the network presidency of Susan Lyne. 1392 01:16:11,741 --> 01:16:13,481 She had to fight really hard 1393 01:16:13,612 --> 01:16:15,092 to get them to put it on the air. 1394 01:16:15,179 --> 01:16:18,704 - When I called to say we were gonna green light it, 1395 01:16:18,835 --> 01:16:21,794 the male executive on the other end of the line 1396 01:16:21,925 --> 01:16:23,274 literally hung up on me. 1397 01:16:26,016 --> 01:16:28,453 [light music] 1398 01:16:31,108 --> 01:16:33,153 - Because of the show's success, 1399 01:16:33,284 --> 01:16:37,897 what Shonda has done with that power has been remarkable. 1400 01:16:39,812 --> 01:16:40,987 - Moments like this give every woman an opportunity 1401 01:16:41,118 --> 01:16:43,860 to decide what kind of person she wants to be. 1402 01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:47,341 - She created Scandal, where the lead character 1403 01:16:47,472 --> 01:16:49,996 is an African-American woman. 1404 01:16:50,127 --> 01:16:53,043 Later on, she was also able to hire 1405 01:16:53,173 --> 01:16:55,523 a African-American lead actress 1406 01:16:55,654 --> 01:17:00,137 who is older and who has darker skin. 1407 01:17:00,267 --> 01:17:03,053 These are all building blocks 1408 01:17:03,140 --> 01:17:07,013 to being able to show ourselves fully. 1409 01:17:07,144 --> 01:17:11,191 - When you have diverse creators making diverse content, 1410 01:17:11,278 --> 01:17:14,412 you get representations of experience 1411 01:17:14,542 --> 01:17:17,371 that you never would have gotten otherwise. 1412 01:17:18,590 --> 01:17:20,070 That scene with Viola Davis 1413 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,334 taking off her wig was revolutionary. 1414 01:17:25,249 --> 01:17:28,687 We often, as black women, have to put on this armor 1415 01:17:28,774 --> 01:17:30,776 when we enter the world. 1416 01:17:30,863 --> 01:17:31,908 - It was like she took 1417 01:17:31,995 --> 01:17:35,041 the weight off of our shoulders in public. 1418 01:17:37,087 --> 01:17:39,002 [somber music] 1419 01:17:39,132 --> 01:17:42,875 That moment represented black women 1420 01:17:43,006 --> 01:17:46,879 comin' out of these shadows of I have to look like this. 1421 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,622 - Shonda Rhimes is the 1422 01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:53,016 most powerful showrunner in Hollywood. 1423 01:17:54,974 --> 01:17:58,848 People look at her and say, isn't the problem solved? 1424 01:18:05,942 --> 01:18:08,727 [keyboard clicking] 1425 01:18:14,820 --> 01:18:18,171 - I was following the EEOC case very closely. 1426 01:18:18,302 --> 01:18:20,652 The women who brought that suit and who documented 1427 01:18:20,783 --> 01:18:25,439 all those exclusions and abuses are heroic. 1428 01:18:27,877 --> 01:18:32,142 I began digging around and I wanted to see 1429 01:18:32,272 --> 01:18:35,536 what I could find out about directors in the world of TV. 1430 01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:38,975 All the data was there, but it wasn't all that easy 1431 01:18:39,062 --> 01:18:42,282 to see the numbers by network. 1432 01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:49,072 I don't like math, but even a non-math person like me 1433 01:18:49,202 --> 01:18:50,943 can add up a row of zeroes. 1434 01:18:54,381 --> 01:18:57,123 I constructed a chart for every network, 1435 01:18:57,254 --> 01:18:58,908 and there were four categories: 1436 01:18:59,038 --> 01:19:02,520 white men, white women, men of color, women of color. 1437 01:19:02,650 --> 01:19:04,740 And the network with the worst track record... 1438 01:19:10,615 --> 01:19:11,311 was FX. 1439 01:19:23,584 --> 01:19:25,717 - I was very disappointed. 1440 01:19:25,848 --> 01:19:28,764 I thought of myself as an enlightened person. 1441 01:19:28,894 --> 01:19:31,070 I would have described myself as a feminist. 1442 01:19:31,201 --> 01:19:33,029 So I started to inquire much more deeply 1443 01:19:33,159 --> 01:19:36,206 into the kinds of unique challenges 1444 01:19:36,336 --> 01:19:39,426 faced by women, by African-Americans, 1445 01:19:39,557 --> 01:19:42,212 by people who are not gender normative. 1446 01:19:42,342 --> 01:19:43,953 We gotta put our finger on the scale 1447 01:19:44,083 --> 01:19:47,043 and try to do something to change the situation. 1448 01:19:47,173 --> 01:19:51,787 - People will hire the same type of people every time 1449 01:19:53,397 --> 01:19:54,877 if you don't have that meeting to tell them not to. 1450 01:19:56,443 --> 01:20:00,970 [light upbeat music] [keyboard clicking] 1451 01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:04,538 - I wrote a letter to all the showrunners of our shows 1452 01:20:04,669 --> 01:20:07,237 asking them to help us do better, 1453 01:20:07,367 --> 01:20:10,196 but also telling them that we would provide them 1454 01:20:10,327 --> 01:20:13,156 with all the resources necessary to make that successful. 1455 01:20:13,286 --> 01:20:17,029 - In July, their staff approached me and said, 1456 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:21,817 we've gone from 89% white men directing our shows to 49%. 1457 01:20:24,297 --> 01:20:28,040 And I just said, no you didn't. 1458 01:20:31,435 --> 01:20:34,220 - I had this unconscious bias that we would have to 1459 01:20:34,351 --> 01:20:37,745 be making sacrifices to hire people with less experience. 1460 01:20:37,876 --> 01:20:39,182 - They don't care that I'm black. 1461 01:20:39,312 --> 01:20:40,705 - [John] And maybe that the talent wouldn't be there. 1462 01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:42,272 - I just think that they just don't like me. 1463 01:20:42,402 --> 01:20:45,057 - Oh, they care plenty. 1464 01:20:45,188 --> 01:20:46,058 - And I'm here to say it's there. 1465 01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:47,886 [light dramatic music] 1466 01:20:48,017 --> 01:20:50,802 - There's nothing funny here! 1467 01:20:50,933 --> 01:20:52,108 - [John] The minute we open our door and we say, 1468 01:20:52,238 --> 01:20:54,719 come express it here, - Welcome. 1469 01:20:54,806 --> 01:20:55,676 - the work got better. 1470 01:21:00,290 --> 01:21:01,900 - Hello, Daddy. 1471 01:21:02,031 --> 01:21:04,120 - Feud is so, so good. 1472 01:21:04,207 --> 01:21:05,469 You directed an episode of it. 1473 01:21:05,599 --> 01:21:08,559 - I did, it'll be on [audience applauding] 1474 01:21:08,689 --> 01:21:10,039 - It's one of the best things 1475 01:21:10,126 --> 01:21:12,258 that's ever happened in my professional career. 1476 01:21:13,651 --> 01:21:15,131 Anyone who then told me, 1477 01:21:15,261 --> 01:21:19,178 or told any other journalist in the future, it's too hard, 1478 01:21:19,309 --> 01:21:22,660 no, it's not, look at what FX did. 1479 01:21:26,707 --> 01:21:28,535 - It can only be done if 1480 01:21:28,666 --> 01:21:33,149 the CEO is totally invested in this. 1481 01:21:33,236 --> 01:21:36,239 It doesn't work if it's just lip service. 1482 01:21:36,369 --> 01:21:39,851 - Progress will happen when men take a stand. 1483 01:21:39,982 --> 01:21:42,288 It's the chivalry of the 21st century. 1484 01:21:44,551 --> 01:21:46,902 - I'm doing a better job 1485 01:21:47,032 --> 01:21:50,209 for having changed the way I think about this. 1486 01:21:50,340 --> 01:21:52,559 I'm doing a better job of funneling 1487 01:21:52,690 --> 01:21:56,215 the most talented people into this business, 1488 01:21:56,346 --> 01:21:58,043 and I think that makes people uncomfortable. 1489 01:22:01,220 --> 01:22:04,789 I've been increasingly open as I've gotten older 1490 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:10,099 to seeing my white, male, heterosexual identity 1491 01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:12,971 as an unearned advantage in the world. 1492 01:22:13,102 --> 01:22:15,365 I think it's difficult sometimes for men to see that 1493 01:22:15,495 --> 01:22:18,107 because I think they feel like it diminishes 1494 01:22:18,237 --> 01:22:22,763 the nature of their achievement or their life, 1495 01:22:22,894 --> 01:22:25,244 but I just think it's a fact. 1496 01:22:25,331 --> 01:22:27,986 - When you try to move from where we are 1497 01:22:28,073 --> 01:22:31,947 towards something which looks more nearly like equality, 1498 01:22:32,034 --> 01:22:35,602 there are people who are doing quite nicely now 1499 01:22:35,733 --> 01:22:37,996 who feel like something is being taken away from them. 1500 01:22:41,086 --> 01:22:44,872 I have a friend, he came back from a job interview 1501 01:22:45,003 --> 01:22:47,353 that hadn't particularly gone well 1502 01:22:47,484 --> 01:22:49,399 and we were having coffee and he said, 1503 01:22:51,053 --> 01:22:53,533 all they're looking for is black women. 1504 01:22:53,664 --> 01:22:55,796 And I said, did they tell you that? 1505 01:22:55,927 --> 01:22:57,973 And he said, no, but everybody knows that. 1506 01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:00,062 And then I didn't know what to do. 1507 01:23:00,192 --> 01:23:03,848 I didn't know whether I should get up and leave the table, 1508 01:23:03,979 --> 01:23:07,330 whether I should pull the statistics up on my telephone. 1509 01:23:07,417 --> 01:23:10,507 But it's simply not true. 1510 01:23:10,637 --> 01:23:11,899 - We're hearing a lot of people saying, 1511 01:23:12,030 --> 01:23:16,817 when we fact in gender we're not selecting for excellence. 1512 01:23:18,428 --> 01:23:20,821 And I find that it's the other way around. 1513 01:23:20,952 --> 01:23:24,869 We are factoring in gender, the male gender, 1514 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,219 and that is what is constraining 1515 01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:29,004 the selection of excellence. 1516 01:23:30,309 --> 01:23:34,400 - The countervailing forces against change must be enormous. 1517 01:23:34,531 --> 01:23:38,578 They're enormous, they're powerful, and they're silent. 1518 01:23:40,145 --> 01:23:44,671 - As women, we are not allowed to be angry. 1519 01:23:45,890 --> 01:23:48,806 Our anger is not appropriate. 1520 01:23:48,893 --> 01:23:52,070 - I can point to the change. 1521 01:23:52,201 --> 01:23:56,596 I can point to when the forest went up in fire. 1522 01:23:56,683 --> 01:24:00,122 - [Trump] I moved on her like a bitch, and she was married. 1523 01:24:00,252 --> 01:24:03,081 She is a disgusting pig, right? 1524 01:24:03,168 --> 01:24:04,909 When you're a star, they let you do it. 1525 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,911 You can do anything, grab 'em by the pussy. 1526 01:24:13,700 --> 01:24:16,573 - [Man] The 45th president of the United States. 1527 01:24:19,706 --> 01:24:23,101 - It is truly, unequivocally, a breaking point for women. 1528 01:24:23,232 --> 01:24:26,670 - Oh my god, this was the gasoline on the spark 1529 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,367 that awakened the country. 1530 01:24:29,499 --> 01:24:32,067 [Quiet by MILCK] 1531 01:24:41,293 --> 01:24:45,384 - In the last couple of decades, a majority of women felt 1532 01:24:45,471 --> 01:24:47,212 that there was nothing more to fight for. 1533 01:24:50,563 --> 01:24:53,000 Now we see that there's a lot to fight for. 1534 01:24:55,481 --> 01:25:00,269 ♪ Shut up and smile ♪ 1535 01:25:01,444 --> 01:25:03,968 ♪ Don't spread your legs ♪ 1536 01:25:04,099 --> 01:25:08,103 Oh my god. [background chattering] 1537 01:25:11,454 --> 01:25:12,846 - People didn't just get discouraged 1538 01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:15,284 and say, wow, that sucks. 1539 01:25:16,285 --> 01:25:19,070 Right there on inauguration day going, 1540 01:25:19,201 --> 01:25:21,159 we're here and we're not going away! 1541 01:25:21,333 --> 01:25:23,901 ♪ But no one knows me ♪ 1542 01:25:24,075 --> 01:25:27,470 ♪ No one ever will ♪ 1543 01:25:27,644 --> 01:25:32,301 ♪ If don't say something if I just lie still ♪ 1544 01:25:33,519 --> 01:25:35,565 ♪ But I'll beat that monster ♪ 1545 01:25:35,739 --> 01:25:39,569 ♪ Scare them all away ♪ 1546 01:25:39,699 --> 01:25:43,007 - Older women that have been through these battles 1547 01:25:43,138 --> 01:25:47,751 are gratified to see it revived and it feels right. 1548 01:25:47,838 --> 01:25:50,057 ♪ I can't keep quiet ♪ 1549 01:25:50,232 --> 01:25:52,973 ♪ No, no, no ♪ 1550 01:25:53,060 --> 01:25:55,454 ♪ I can't keep quiet ♪ 1551 01:25:55,541 --> 01:25:58,979 - I want to thank our new president. 1552 01:25:59,066 --> 01:26:01,199 You just started the revolution. 1553 01:26:01,330 --> 01:26:03,419 [crowd cheering] 1554 01:26:03,549 --> 01:26:06,509 - Women's right are human rights. 1555 01:26:06,596 --> 01:26:09,773 - [Crowd] Women's rights are human rights. 1556 01:26:09,860 --> 01:26:10,861 [crowd cheering] 1557 01:26:10,991 --> 01:26:14,865 - All of a sudden, the dam broke open. 1558 01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:17,302 ♪ I can't keep quiet ♪ 1559 01:26:17,433 --> 01:26:18,695 - I could never have envisioned something 1560 01:26:18,825 --> 01:26:20,044 that would change the world. 1561 01:26:20,131 --> 01:26:21,480 I was tryin' to change my community. 1562 01:26:21,567 --> 01:26:22,829 ♪ Oh, I'm breaking quiet ♪ 1563 01:26:23,003 --> 01:26:24,744 ♪ Let it out, let it out, let it out now ♪ 1564 01:26:24,918 --> 01:26:27,660 ♪ Must be someone who understands ♪ 1565 01:26:27,834 --> 01:26:29,140 ♪ Let it out, let it out, let it out now ♪ 1566 01:26:29,271 --> 01:26:31,011 - [Woman] New York Times reporting 1567 01:26:31,142 --> 01:26:32,665 - [Man] A growing community of women speaking out 1568 01:26:32,796 --> 01:26:34,537 - [Woman] Harvey Weinstein sexually harassed 1569 01:26:34,667 --> 01:26:36,539 - [Woman] Including Rose McGowan and Ashley Judd 1570 01:26:36,626 --> 01:26:39,933 - Hollywood has built itself on that casting couch 1571 01:26:40,064 --> 01:26:41,979 and on keeping people silent. 1572 01:26:42,109 --> 01:26:44,721 - When it's one, you can say she's crazy 1573 01:26:44,851 --> 01:26:49,334 and ruin her career, and when it's 100, it's undeniable. 1574 01:26:50,683 --> 01:26:52,990 - Guilty, guilty, guilty. 1575 01:26:54,209 --> 01:26:56,036 - Sexual harassment and abuse 1576 01:26:56,167 --> 01:26:58,735 are a symptom of employment discrimination. 1577 01:26:58,865 --> 01:27:03,392 They expose the way that business works in Hollywood. 1578 01:27:05,176 --> 01:27:07,874 - [Man] The me too movement is morphing into Time's Up. 1579 01:27:08,005 --> 01:27:10,573 - [Man] The movement has raised over $16 million 1580 01:27:10,703 --> 01:27:12,749 to help victims of workplace harassment. 1581 01:27:12,879 --> 01:27:15,317 - It's action, and that was what really pulled me in. 1582 01:27:17,406 --> 01:27:19,277 ♪ Let it out, let it out, let it out now ♪ 1583 01:27:19,408 --> 01:27:23,063 - We have to create momentum based on this moment. 1584 01:27:23,150 --> 01:27:26,589 You can't just say, well, we won't sexually harass the women 1585 01:27:26,676 --> 01:27:28,721 but we're not gonna give them bigger roles 1586 01:27:28,852 --> 01:27:31,158 and more to say and more important things to do. 1587 01:27:37,861 --> 01:27:40,298 - In order for true systemic change to happen, 1588 01:27:40,429 --> 01:27:42,822 it has to be inclusive, everyone has to come along with it. 1589 01:27:42,953 --> 01:27:45,608 And change needs to happen immediately. 1590 01:27:45,738 --> 01:27:48,437 [light upbeat music] 1591 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,845 - We need more female content. 1592 01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:08,195 We need more female filmmakers 1593 01:28:08,326 --> 01:28:09,936 and better roles for actresses. 1594 01:28:10,067 --> 01:28:13,331 And at a certain point, some people have to take some risks 1595 01:28:13,462 --> 01:28:15,420 or everything just stays the same, right? 1596 01:28:21,165 --> 01:28:22,079 [exploding] 1597 01:28:22,209 --> 01:28:23,820 - This is no man's land, Diana. 1598 01:28:23,950 --> 01:28:26,562 This is not something you can cross, it's not possible. 1599 01:28:28,955 --> 01:28:30,740 [somber music] 1600 01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:33,003 - This was the make it or break it moment. 1601 01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:36,049 It's a moment of confidence and decision of what you can do. 1602 01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:38,182 It's not about the wall of people 1603 01:28:38,313 --> 01:28:39,705 that you're going up against. 1604 01:28:39,836 --> 01:28:41,446 She's just going to go across 1605 01:28:41,533 --> 01:28:43,143 and be the one that makes a difference. 1606 01:28:44,884 --> 01:28:46,799 I've seen a ton of women really go up 1607 01:28:46,930 --> 01:28:49,411 in the face of things and take things head on. 1608 01:28:52,631 --> 01:28:56,940 - If you grew up free from unconscious gender bias, 1609 01:28:57,070 --> 01:28:59,421 I think it would have an enormous impact. 1610 01:28:59,551 --> 01:29:04,164 It could change our culture, it could change the world. 1611 01:29:06,906 --> 01:29:10,040 - To be able to have authentic representation, 1612 01:29:10,127 --> 01:29:12,738 we really need 50/50 on screen, behind the scenes. 1613 01:29:15,045 --> 01:29:17,177 It's the responsibility 1614 01:29:17,308 --> 01:29:22,008 of industry executives to obey the law. 1615 01:29:22,922 --> 01:29:26,099 [light dramatic music] 1616 01:29:26,230 --> 01:29:27,840 - She's takin' all the fire, let's go. 1617 01:29:29,973 --> 01:29:34,586 - We as consumers lose sight of the power that we do have. 1618 01:29:38,242 --> 01:29:41,419 - When audiences decide I'm not gonna see movies 1619 01:29:41,550 --> 01:29:45,510 where women are belittled and I'm not gonna let my daughter 1620 01:29:45,641 --> 01:29:47,991 see movies like that, things are gonna change. 1621 01:29:55,738 --> 01:30:00,699 [grunting] [metal crashing] 1622 01:30:00,786 --> 01:30:02,614 - It's your daughters, it's your granddaughters, 1623 01:30:02,701 --> 01:30:06,401 it's your children, it's your stories, it's your job. 1624 01:30:15,322 --> 01:30:18,021 [uplifting music] 1625 01:30:26,333 --> 01:30:30,773 - If I could go back and talk to my teenage self, 1626 01:30:30,903 --> 01:30:34,907 I would say, actually, you'll learn a feminist 1627 01:30:35,038 --> 01:30:38,041 is exactly what you wanna be and people will come to realize 1628 01:30:38,171 --> 01:30:41,218 that what's good for women is good for everybody. 1629 01:30:48,399 --> 01:30:51,837 [Side by Side by Andra Day] 1630 01:31:20,605 --> 01:31:24,957 ♪ Infiltrate, trouble make, innovate, detonate ♪ 1631 01:31:25,131 --> 01:31:27,612 ♪ This changes everything ♪ 1632 01:31:27,786 --> 01:31:29,701 ♪ What you expect of me ♪ 1633 01:31:29,875 --> 01:31:31,137 ♪ Keep it sweet ♪ 1634 01:31:31,311 --> 01:31:32,443 ♪ Keep it low ♪ 1635 01:31:32,530 --> 01:31:34,750 ♪ Sugar don't rock the boat ♪ 1636 01:31:34,924 --> 01:31:38,841 ♪ Why are you uncomfortable with beautiful ♪ 1637 01:31:39,015 --> 01:31:40,625 ♪ I can see you afraid ♪ 1638 01:31:40,799 --> 01:31:41,844 ♪ Tell me what of ♪ 1639 01:31:41,931 --> 01:31:42,932 ♪ Stuck in a rut ♪ 1640 01:31:43,106 --> 01:31:45,195 ♪ Only because you clipping my wings ♪ 1641 01:31:45,369 --> 01:31:46,457 ♪ Holding me down ♪ 1642 01:31:46,631 --> 01:31:47,893 ♪ Caging me in ♪ 1643 01:31:48,067 --> 01:31:48,938 ♪ And locking me out ♪ 1644 01:31:49,025 --> 01:31:50,200 ♪ Scared of the tears ♪ 1645 01:31:50,374 --> 01:31:51,680 ♪ Sweat or the blood ♪ 1646 01:31:51,767 --> 01:31:54,030 ♪ Standing on me to hold yourself up ♪ 1647 01:31:54,204 --> 01:31:56,380 ♪ Only a few feet off the ground ♪ 1648 01:31:56,554 --> 01:32:01,211 ♪ But why hover when you could fly ♪ 1649 01:32:03,822 --> 01:32:05,737 ♪ What will guide you ♪ 1650 01:32:05,911 --> 01:32:10,612 ♪ With no stars in the sky ♪ 1651 01:32:13,179 --> 01:32:15,704 ♪ Your flag, half mast, ♪ 1652 01:32:15,878 --> 01:32:20,578 ♪ Let these old habits die ♪ 1653 01:32:23,059 --> 01:32:27,672 ♪ Used to saving you just to be crucified ♪ 1654 01:32:32,372 --> 01:32:35,550 ♪ But you just half a man ♪ 1655 01:32:35,724 --> 01:32:38,857 ♪ Until we side by side ♪ 1656 01:32:46,996 --> 01:32:51,609 ♪ Stalemate, elevate, equal parts, co-create ♪ 1657 01:32:52,697 --> 01:32:53,785 ♪ How you gon know the way ♪ 1658 01:32:53,959 --> 01:32:55,700 ♪ With only half the truth? ♪ 1659 01:32:55,874 --> 01:32:58,094 ♪ But it's alright ♪ 1660 01:32:58,268 --> 01:33:01,097 ♪ We gon' be great ♪ 1661 01:33:01,184 --> 01:33:03,578 ♪ Fear just gets in the way ♪ 1662 01:33:03,752 --> 01:33:06,015 ♪ Don't think, participate ♪ 1663 01:33:06,189 --> 01:33:08,365 ♪ Saying I got a bad attitude ♪ 1664 01:33:08,452 --> 01:33:09,366 ♪ According to what ♪ 1665 01:33:09,540 --> 01:33:10,889 ♪ According to who? ♪ 1666 01:33:11,063 --> 01:33:13,196 ♪ Word of advice, I'm being polite ♪ 1667 01:33:13,370 --> 01:33:15,677 ♪ And I'm only nice 'cause that's what I like ♪ 1668 01:33:15,764 --> 01:33:16,765 ♪ Talk like I'm not ♪ 1669 01:33:16,939 --> 01:33:18,201 ♪ A part of the plan ♪ 1670 01:33:18,375 --> 01:33:20,551 ♪ Stay in my place but that's where I am ♪ 1671 01:33:20,725 --> 01:33:22,814 ♪ God don't just speak to man ♪ 1672 01:33:22,988 --> 01:33:27,732 ♪ Why hover when you could fly ♪ 1673 01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:32,563 ♪ What will guide you ♪ 1674 01:33:32,737 --> 01:33:37,568 ♪ With no stars in the sky ♪ 1675 01:33:39,918 --> 01:33:41,920 ♪ Your flag, half mast, ♪ 1676 01:33:42,094 --> 01:33:46,882 ♪ Let these old habits die ♪ 1677 01:33:49,449 --> 01:33:54,106 ♪ Used to saving you just to be crucified ♪ 1678 01:33:59,111 --> 01:34:01,940 ♪ But you just half a man ♪ 1679 01:34:02,114 --> 01:34:05,291 ♪ Until we side by side ♪ 1680 01:34:39,978 --> 01:34:41,980 ♪ Why hover when you ♪ 1681 01:34:42,154 --> 01:34:46,985 ♪ Could fly ♪ 1682 01:34:47,899 --> 01:34:49,379 ♪ I will guide you ♪ 1683 01:34:49,553 --> 01:34:54,210 ♪ We can talk of all the stars in the sky ♪ 1684 01:34:56,647 --> 01:34:59,041 ♪ Your flag, half mast, ♪ 1685 01:34:59,215 --> 01:35:03,915 ♪ Let these old habits die ♪ 1686 01:35:06,526 --> 01:35:11,183 ♪ Used to saving you just to be crucified ♪ 1687 01:35:15,710 --> 01:35:18,756 ♪ But you just half a man ♪ 1688 01:35:18,930 --> 01:35:23,718 ♪ Until we side by side ♪ 1689 01:35:25,589 --> 01:35:28,984 ♪ Used to being crucified ♪ 1690 01:35:39,603 --> 01:35:44,303 ♪ We taking so much fire ♪ 1691 01:35:44,477 --> 01:35:49,308 ♪ Until we side by side ♪ 1692 01:35:49,482 --> 01:35:52,572 ♪ Until we side by side ♪ 1693 01:35:59,362 --> 01:36:02,017 [light music] 126522

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